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Deportation of Venezuelan Gang Members:
- The Supreme Court lifted a judge's order blocking the deportation of suspected Venezuelan gang members to a prison in El Salvador.
- The Trump administration used the Alien Enemies Act, an 18th-century law, to classify these gang members as part of a hostile government.
- The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that challenges to deportation must be filed as habeas corpus petitions in the location where the individuals are detained, not as class actions in D.C.
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Cancellation of Teacher Training Grants:
- The Supreme Court upheld the cancellation of $600 million in teacher training grants, with $65 million yet to be distributed.
- The court ruled 5-4 that claims against federal money should be brought in the Court of Federal Claims.
- This decision was seen as a technical but significant victory against district judges trying to block the Trump administration's agenda.
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Reinstatement of Federal Employees:
- The Supreme Court reversed a district judge's order to reinstate 16,000 federal employees fired by the Trump administration.
- The court ruled 7-2 that the administration had followed proper procedures for the dismissals.
- This decision was another victory against district judges attempting to halt the Trump administration's actions.
- Issuance of Social Security Numbers:
- Nearly 4 million non-citizens were issued Social Security numbers during Joe Biden's presidency.
- These numbers allowed illegal aliens to access government programs and aid, costing American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars.
- The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) reported that many illegal aliens received Medicaid, driver's licenses, and some even registered to vote.
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Transgender Athletes in Women's Sports:
- A female fencer was disqualified for refusing to compete against a transgender opponent.
- Senator Ted Cruz launched an investigation into USA Fencing's policies, aiming to protect women and girls in sports.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome. It is Verdict with Center. Ted Kruz.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Nice to have you with us on this Wednesday morning,
and we get to start with good news center, and
that is there are three different rulings that have come
down from the Supreme Court, all in favor of the
Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, that's right, and it's very encouraging. You know, we've
talked about at length on this podcast how the law
fair that is unfolding against the Trump administration. The pattern
of nationwide injunctions has in the last three months exceeded
what has happened in the last twenty years. It's exceeded
what happened in the entire twentieth century in terms of
(00:36):
the number of nationwide injunctions issued against the Trump administration. Well,
the good news is, in the last couple of days,
we've had not one, not two, but three Supreme Court
victories for the Trump Department of Justice against these nationwide injunctions.
We're going to break down all three of them, and
layout we've talked about on this podcast, how the principal
(00:57):
check on this abuse of power that's going to be
effective is the appellate process and the Supreme Court. It's encouraging.
Now we have three victories. We're also going to talk
about a new report from DOGE that over four million
social Security numbers were given to illegal aliens, people who
are not US citizens. And finally, we've seen the growing
(01:18):
pattern of men competing in women's sports. This past week,
it went viral a woman competing and fencing faced a man,
a man identifying as a woman, and she declined to compete.
The woman took a knee and ended up being disqualified.
Disqualified because she declined to compete against a biological man.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That was wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That was an abuse of power. And as the chairman
of the Senate Commerce Committee, I am holding USA fencing
to account. We're going to explain all of that and
what the consequences are.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, that story is truly shocking. The details are going
to have for you.
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(03:33):
that these rulings that you mentioned in the in the
lead in there in the show, because it's not just one,
not two, but three victories for the Trump administration and
no one's covering this.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And let's start with the most prominent one, which is
the Supreme Court on Monday lifted a judge's order that
had blocked the deportation of suspected Venezuela and gang members
to a to a prison in l Salvador. And it
was the true Trump administration was removing these gang members
under an eighteenth century law known as the Alien Enemies Act.
(04:07):
And you'll recall a district judge, James Boseberg, had ordered
the halt of the removals under the Act, and in fact,
President Trump had called for Judge Boseberg's impeachment as a
result of that. Well, the Court issued a five to
four decision that blocked the judge's order stopping the deportation.
(04:30):
The vote was five to four, so it was close,
five to four. It was a procureum decision. In the
majority were the Chief Justice Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch,
and Brett Kavanaugh, and a whole lot of attention has
been focused on the fact that amy Cony Barrett voted
with the liberals on this, and so it was a
(04:51):
five to Ford decision. Nonetheless, it's a victory in that
what the court concluded was that if you wanted to
challenge the deportation, that you could not do so in
d C, which is where they filed the case. Instead,
you had to file it as a habeas corpus petition.
What is a habeas corpus petition? It Habeas corpus is
(05:11):
a Latin term. It means produced the body, and habeas
corpus is a civil avenue to justify someone's unlawful detention.
But the court said, look, these individuals, these gang members
were detained at the time the case was filed in
South Texas. They said, the right place to file the
case is in South Texas, not d C. They weren't
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being held in DC, they were being held.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
In South Texas.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So the right avenue to challenge this was to file
a habeas corpus petition in South Texas. And they said
you shouldn't do so as a class action on behalf
of everyone, which is what had been done here. Rather
each individual defendant if you have a claim. So look,
if you've been detained, if you're getting ready to be deported,
and they say you're a Venezuelan gang member, if you
(05:56):
have a claim that I'm not a Venezuelan gang member,
the facts are wrong. They said, the avenue to do
that is go and file a hevieas corpus petition in
the location where you're being detained. That was five to four.
I wish it had been nine to zero. That was
clearly right now. The court did say that anyone who
is being detained and being deported, they should have reasonable
(06:19):
notice under due process to have the challenge to the
opportunity to challenge their detention and deportation. But this victory
is a big, big victory in what had been I
think in egregious order from the district court trying to
stop the deportation of really, really dangerous criminals.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, let me ask you a question because you mentioned
it there, and I think it'd be crazy if I
didn't ask it, because there's some of you asking why
was there a what many would consider a conservative justice
go with the Democrats in this decision. As an aside
here that was obviously part of the headline that we
saw on social media.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, look, I don't have a good answer. I think
it is unfortunate. I disagree with her decision on that.
In this case, look the left, but both the Democrats
and activist judges and left wing radical legal groups are
challenging any deportation. The Trump administration relied on a law
(07:21):
called the Alien Enemies Act, which is a law that
was signed into law by in seventeen ninety eight by
President John Adams. And what the Trump administration did is
it classified a transnational criminal gang trender Aragua as an
arm of a hostile government Venezuela. And based on that law,
there are very broad legal authorities to deport those who
(07:46):
are part of a hostile government waging war on the
United States. That was the basis of the deportations. The
district judge, Judge Boseburg, had tried to shut down all
these deportations, and thankfully the Supreme Court, by a votified
to four ended that and said, if you got an
issue with a particular deportation, bring a case, but bring
(08:06):
it in the location where the individual is detained. And
they did say you got to give them a reasonable
time to challenge it. And so that that presumably will
slow down the deportation slightly, but I don't expect it
will slow it down much. It may slow it down
a matter of days rather than months.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And to be clear, this is a victory because it
allows the President to continue doing what he wanted to
do when it comes to deportations. If this would have
gone the other way, this could have been catastrophic.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
No, that's exactly right. Look, the election in November was
a clear mandate to secure the border and to end
the invasion at our southern border, and the Trump administration
has been following through on that mandate and has been
deporting vast numbers of criminal illealiens. The left is losing
(08:56):
their mind, and that that is was the basis of
this injunction. Thankfully the Supreme Court reversed that. Now there's
another victory that occurred, which is another five to four
decision where the Supreme Court concluded that it was okay
to cancel six hundred million dollars in teacher training grants,
(09:16):
sixty five million of that had yet to be distributed.
And there you had a different majority. You had Clarence Thomas,
Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsich, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Cony Barrett.
So she was in the five to four. The Chief
Justice joined the liberals. So in the Venezuelan case, Amy
Cony Barrett joined the liberals. In the case about canceling
(09:39):
the teacher training grants, it was the Chief Justice who
joined the liberals. And what the court concluded in this
other case is that that should have been brought in
the Court of Federal Claims. That if you have a
claim against money being given from the federal government, that
the proper venue for challenging that is the Court of
Federal Claims. Now, look, some might say, God, these decisions
(10:01):
are narrow and technical, and they are. But that being said,
they're nonetheless victories against district judges that are engaged in
law fair that are trying to shut down the Trump
administration's agenda and the agenda they were elected to implement
(10:21):
by the American people.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So when you look at this, these really these three
big decisions, does this also empower the Trump team and
administration to do their job now saying hey, we now
know that when we go to court, we're going to
be our site is going to be at least listened to,
and it's not stacked against us, and we're doing the
right thing within the law.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So yes and no. No, we've only talked about two
of the cases. Let me talk about the third one.
The third one was there was an order from a
district judge that was ordering the Trump administration to reinstate
sixteen thousand federal employees that it had fired. Yeah, and
that went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court
(11:03):
actually by a voter seven to two, reversed it. And
and and and they said, uh, that that the these
federal employees did not have to be reinstated. The two
liberal justices that dissented were Sonya Sotomayor and Katanji Brown Jackson.
But the full court what happened in that case, It
(11:25):
was an injunction that was issued by Judge William Alsop
who was who's a district judge in San Francisco, and
he required the reinstatement of probationary employments at multiple agencies
that the Trump administration had sought to dismiss. Uh. The
judge was appointed by Bill Clinton, and the judge concluded
that the administration hadn't followed the proper procedures for the
(11:49):
for the firing. Well the Supreme Court disagreed, and seven
to they reversed that, which is yet another victory. So
if you look at the combination of these, you have
a victory for deporting violent criminal gang member illegal aliens.
You have a victory for canceling grants that were given
(12:10):
and grants that were given, in the Trump Administration's view, inappropriately.
And you have a victory for dismissing sixteen thousand, primarily
probationary employees from federal agencies. In all three of them,
you had federal district judges that had stepped in and said, no,
we're going to stop you from carrying out this agenda.
And in all three of them, the Supreme Court, albeit
(12:32):
on technical grounds, reversed or vacated the district court's orders.
This is a very, very good development because it's exactly
what we talked about the remedy for lawless decisions by
district courts. The best remedy is the appellate process and
the US Supreme Court. Now we've talked about on this podcast,
(12:53):
how there are other remedies, how Congress could pass legislation
limiting nationwide injunctions support that. In fact, i'm the co
sponsor of legislation to do that, but the problem is
the Democrats will filibuster that. It will never get sixty votes.
Another possible remedies impeachment. It is possible the House of
Representatives could impeach a district judge who had egregiously abused
(13:16):
his power. That takes simply a majority vote in the
House of Representatives two utter and eighteen. The Republicans could
vote to do that. However, to convict a judge under
the constitution takes two thirds of the Senate, which means
we would need a lot of Democrats. We would get zero,
So impeachment will not be an effective remedy either. That
(13:37):
means we really are dependent on the pellet process of
the Supreme Court. And I'm very encouraged to have three
victories within just a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, these are big victories.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And this is also, like you said, gonna encourage I
think the Trump administration to continue to make bold moves
and say, hey, you guys want to sue, go ahead,
We'll see you in court and we'll see what happens there.
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also about this other shocking news that's come out that's
been exposed with DOGE, and that is that there were
a whole lot of illegal immigrants that were receiving Social
Security numbers right away. It made them eligible for a
lot of government program government aid, and was costing American
(16:13):
taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. And this was all
done on purpose by the prior administration.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, there's a great story
about this in the Daily Wire. It begins with quote,
according to the latest numbers reported by the Department of Government, efficiency.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Doge.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Nearly four million non citizens were issued social Security numbers
in the United States during former President Joe Biden's time
in the White House. Stuart Varney broke down some of
the details during Tuesday Mornings broadcast of his Fox Business show,
showing how the numbers exploded from two hundred and seventy thousand,
four hundred and twenty five in Biden's first year in
(16:53):
office up to two million, ninety five thousand, two hundred
and forty seven in his last year as president.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And in fact, we've got that audio Stewart, I want
to play it for everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Doze exposed our immigration asylum disaster. That was the tip
of the iceberg.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Now here's the story.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Doze has found that Immigration gave a work authorization document
to illegals just five months after they filed for asylum.
That document allowed them to work while they waited to
hear whether their asylum request of being accepted or denied.
So they could work as an illegal. Knowing it would
take years before their case was heard, the Immigration Department
(17:38):
mailed them a social Security number, no interview, no proof
of identity to put it in the mail. Here's your
number in twenty twenty one. Does says two hundred and
seventy thousand new aliens were issued social Security numbers five
hundred and ninety twenty twenty two, nine hundred and sixty
four thousand twenty twenty three, and two point one million
(17:58):
in twenty four right before Biden left office. Dose also
discovered that one point three million aliens are now receiving medicaid.
Millions received driver's licenses, Some registered to vote, and Doe
says some actually did vote. Try and square that against
Democrat claims that Musk is destroying social security and cutting
(18:19):
Medicaid is not destroying. He's weeding out people. Don't qualify
who is really guilty of misinformation in this case, it
is not Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
By the way, One of the things that he said
there was we were mailing out these Social Security cards
to people that had had no proof of who they were,
no proof of identity. Just here you go, sign up
and bam, will give you a bunch of govermin aide,
including as he mentioned, their medicaid.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
No, it's an amazing quote. No interview, no proof of identity,
just put it the mail. And the important thing to understand,
this was not by accident. This is not because the
Biden administration was incompetent. It's not because they're lazy. This
was their intention. You don't go from two hundred thousand
(19:05):
to two million in four years by accident. They made
a conscious decision. Number one, the twelve million illegal immigrants
that invaded this country under Joe Biden, they made a
conscious decision, let's open up our borders. We want this
to happen. Number two, the four million non citizens who
got Social Security numbers. They made a conscious decision. We
(19:27):
want every one of them. Look the reason why I've
had people ask me why would the Democrats allow this
horrific invasion. It hurt them politically, It hurt them badly.
Don't any of them say, gosh, this is egregious and
it's a simple political calculus. I believe the Democrats decided
every illegal immigrant in America is a future Democrat voter,
(19:51):
and so we'll take twelve million, even if it includes
murderers and rapists and child molesters and gang members, because
we want power, and so hand in hand with that
is giving them so Security numbers. Even if it's fraudulent.
They don't care and and this is yet another example
(20:11):
of the abusive power we've seen over the last four years,
in particular that is being exposed by Elon musk Andy
by President Trump.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So how do we turn this off? I mean, there's
this many that are out there. And if you go
back over the numbers that you that you mentioned and
that Stuart mentioned there that the number of people that
are that got these Social Security cards just in the
fiscal year twenty twenty four over two million, about a
million and twenty three five hundred or ninety thousand, almost
(20:41):
six hundred thy twenty two and two hundred and twenty
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
How do we turn those off?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
How do we say, no, you don't need this and
you were given this was abusive power. No, we're not
going to have you getting all this free garment. Aide
is that where Congress has to step in and say, hey,
we got to go back through all the son says
and so security numbers that have been issued and connect
the dots of those that were issued.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Are you getting government aid?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yes, Congress should act, But at the same time, I
think the Trump administration has ample authority to act, and
I think Elon musk views that really is a very
significant part of his mandate.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
One of the things Stuart Varney reported on he said,
quote Doge also discovered that one point three million Aliens
are now receiving medicaid. Millions received driver's licenses, some registered
to vote, and Doge said some actually did vote. Try
(21:39):
and square that against Democrat claims that Musk is destroying
so security and cutting Medicaid. He's not destroying He's weeding
out people who don't qualify. Who's really guilty of misinformation
in this case, it's not Elon Musk. And that point
I think is exactly right. That I think the Trump
Adventists Station has a real mandate to go find waste fraud, abuse,
(22:04):
and go find illegal immigrants that are wrongly receiving government
benefits and cut them off. And I think Congress should
back them up. But I also think the Trump administration
is going to do so on its own, and I
think that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Senator.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
There's also another important story that is one that is
I think exciting for transparency but also frustrating at the
same time. You have opened an investigation into US Fencing
over their transathlete policy. Give us the backstory on this
and why you're so involved.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
So USA Fencing has received widespread criticism for something that
happened last week. Stephanie Turner, who's a female fencer. She
refused to compete against a transgender opponent, a biological male
who decided that he was a she. And what happened
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and is Stephanie Turner. Rather than compete against this biological mail,
Stephanie Turner took a knee and as a result, she
was disqualified from the tournament. She was given a black
card and disqualified from the tournament. It was treated as forfeiting.
And I saw this frankly. I saw this on X
(23:23):
I saw this on Twitter, and I thought this was
outrageous because women should not be forced to compete against
men in sports. That's not right now. As you know,
I am the chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science,
and Transportation. The Commerce Committee has massive jurisdiction, as jurisdiction
over roughly forty percent of the US economy. One of
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the things we have jurisdiction over is sports. We have
jurisdiction over collegiate sports, Olympic sports, and any kind of
sports competition, and fencing is explicitly it is the vehicle
(24:07):
through which the American fencing team in the Olympics has chosen.
And so last week I launched an investigation and I
sent an oversight letter to USA Fencing asking for the
documents on what their policy is, how many transgender athletes
(24:28):
have attempted to compete, how many women they have disqualified
for decline and compete, how many injuries have occurred. Look,
there are biological differences. Men are made differently than women,
and we've seen in many other sports significant injuries from
women being forced to compete against biological men. And at
(24:49):
the end of the day, the Congress has a very
direct remedy, which is we have the ability to cease
the designation and of USA Fencing as the organization that
chooses US Olympic athletes. And so this oversight is an effort.
I want to get them to change their policy. I
(25:10):
want to get them to protect women. I think women's
sports matters, girls sports matters, and I don't think any
women should be forced to compete against a man in sports.
I don't think any girl should be forced to compete
against a boy in sports.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
What does it look like if they're actually held accountable
for this.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
What it looks like is they change their policies that
that is my objective here, is to change the policy
so that you don't end up having having women discriminated
against and put in a position where they're competing unfairly,
where they're put in a position where they're risking real,
(25:50):
real injuries.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It'll be very interesting to see what that injury report
looks like. Is there a timeline for them getting back
to you with this request?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So here's what I said my letter. I wrote it
to the chief executive officer of USA Fencing, and I said,
dear mister Andrews, it has come to my attention that
USA Fencing is still permitting men to compete in women's
fencing in violation of federal law. I'm writing to ask
why your organization is the recognized national governing body for
fencing in the United States, but to remain so, it
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must comply with the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee
rules and procedures, its statutory obligations to protect women, and
President Trump's recent executive order on keeping men out of
women's sports. If it does not and instead continues to
put women at risk, Congress may be forced to terminate
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USA Fencing's NGB certification. Last week, Stephanie Turner, from the
Fencing Academy of Philadelphia competed at the USA Fencing sanctioned
Cherry Blossom Open Circuit at the University of Maryland. The
young woman was set to face a man who now
claims to be a transgender woman and a fencing bans However,
at the start of the match, Miss Turner bravely took
(27:03):
a knee and refused to compete against her male opponent.
In response to this young woman's courage, tournament officials presented
her with a black card and disqualified her from the
entire tournament. USA's Fencing's Director of Communications, Brian Wendell, said
the young woman's disqualification was quote the direct result of
(27:25):
her decision to decline defense an eligible opponent, a supposed
violation of the International Fencing Federation rules. He reiterated the
USA Fencing's remains committed to inclusivity. USA Fencing's commitment to
inclusivity is nothing less than a full throat of support
for males competing in women's sports in violation of federal law.
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As the recognized MGB for Fencing. USA Fencing is required
to provide quote support and encouragement for participation by women
were separate programs for male and female end athletes are
conducted on a national basis, as well as quote safe
environments and sports. Failure to do so is grounds for
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the United States Congress to terminate USA Fencing certification as
an MGB. And I go on to say that they
have to comply with President Trump's executive order. And I
point out that male fencers naturally possess inherent advantages over
potential female competitors. Men tend to be taller, have greater
(28:29):
muscle mass, and more testosterone, all advantages for fencing movements
like lunges, jumping, or leg power measures. And I point
out that under the rules of the Senate, the Commerce
Committee has a duty and an authority to review and
study on a continuing basis both sports and sports agencies
(28:49):
such as USA Fencing, and so I ask, I ask
a whole series of questions, and I want documents and
answers by April twenty first, twenty twenty five, and it's
documents about their transgender policy. How many men or transgender
women currently compete in the women's division, in the last
four years. How many bouts have occurred between transgender women
(29:12):
and women? How many times did the female athlete prevail?
How many times did the female athletes suffer an injury?
Does USA Fencing comply with the President's executive order? And
I have a whole series of additional questions, But this
is an example of holding to account. And you've got
throughout sports these radical associations, organizations that have embrace the
(29:37):
woke ideology. There's no difference between men and women, and
that is profoundly unfair to women and girls competing in sports.
And I'm going to do everything I can to stop it.
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Nice to have you with us on this Wednesday morning,
and we get to start with good news center, and
that is there are three different rulings that have come
down from the Supreme Court, all in favor of the
Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, that's right, and it's very encouraging. You know, we've
talked about at length on this podcast how the law
fair that is unfolding against the Trump administration. The pattern
of nationwide injunctions has in the last three months exceeded
what has happened in the last twenty years. It's exceeded
what happened in the entire twentieth century in terms of
(00:36):
the number of nationwide injunctions issued against the Trump administration. Well,
the good news is, in the last couple of days,
we've had not one, not two, but three Supreme Court
victories for the Trump Department of Justice against these nationwide injunctions.
We're going to break down all three of them, and
layout we've talked about on this podcast, how the principal
(00:57):
check on this abuse of power that's going to be
effective is the appellate process and the Supreme Court. It's encouraging.
Now we have three victories. We're also going to talk
about a new report from DOGE that over four million
social Security numbers were given to illegal aliens, people who
are not US citizens. And finally, we've seen the growing
(01:18):
pattern of men competing in women's sports. This past week,
it went viral a woman competing and fencing faced a man,
a man identifying as a woman, and she declined to compete.
The woman took a knee and ended up being disqualified.
Disqualified because she declined to compete against a biological man.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That was wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That was an abuse of power. And as the chairman
of the Senate Commerce Committee, I am holding USA fencing
to account. We're going to explain all of that and
what the consequences are.
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Yeah, that story is truly shocking. The details are going
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that these rulings that you mentioned in the in the
lead in there in the show, because it's not just one,
not two, but three victories for the Trump administration and
no one's covering this.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And let's start with the most prominent one, which is
the Supreme Court on Monday lifted a judge's order that
had blocked the deportation of suspected Venezuela and gang members
to a to a prison in l Salvador. And it
was the true Trump administration was removing these gang members
under an eighteenth century law known as the Alien Enemies Act.
(04:07):
And you'll recall a district judge, James Boseberg, had ordered
the halt of the removals under the Act, and in fact,
President Trump had called for Judge Boseberg's impeachment as a
result of that. Well, the Court issued a five to
four decision that blocked the judge's order stopping the deportation.
(04:30):
The vote was five to four, so it was close,
five to four. It was a procureum decision. In the
majority were the Chief Justice Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch,
and Brett Kavanaugh, and a whole lot of attention has
been focused on the fact that amy Cony Barrett voted
with the liberals on this, and so it was a
(04:51):
five to Ford decision. Nonetheless, it's a victory in that
what the court concluded was that if you wanted to
challenge the deportation, that you could not do so in
d C, which is where they filed the case. Instead,
you had to file it as a habeas corpus petition.
What is a habeas corpus petition? It Habeas corpus is
(05:11):
a Latin term. It means produced the body, and habeas
corpus is a civil avenue to justify someone's unlawful detention.
But the court said, look, these individuals, these gang members
were detained at the time the case was filed in
South Texas. They said, the right place to file the
case is in South Texas, not d C. They weren't
(05:32):
being held in DC, they were being held.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
In South Texas.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So the right avenue to challenge this was to file
a habeas corpus petition in South Texas. And they said
you shouldn't do so as a class action on behalf
of everyone, which is what had been done here. Rather
each individual defendant if you have a claim. So look,
if you've been detained, if you're getting ready to be deported,
and they say you're a Venezuelan gang member, if you
(05:56):
have a claim that I'm not a Venezuelan gang member,
the facts are wrong. They said, the avenue to do
that is go and file a hevieas corpus petition in
the location where you're being detained. That was five to four.
I wish it had been nine to zero. That was
clearly right now. The court did say that anyone who
is being detained and being deported, they should have reasonable
(06:19):
notice under due process to have the challenge to the
opportunity to challenge their detention and deportation. But this victory
is a big, big victory in what had been I
think in egregious order from the district court trying to
stop the deportation of really, really dangerous criminals.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, let me ask you a question because you mentioned
it there, and I think it'd be crazy if I
didn't ask it, because there's some of you asking why
was there a what many would consider a conservative justice
go with the Democrats in this decision. As an aside
here that was obviously part of the headline that we
saw on social media.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, look, I don't have a good answer. I think
it is unfortunate. I disagree with her decision on that.
In this case, look the left, but both the Democrats
and activist judges and left wing radical legal groups are
challenging any deportation. The Trump administration relied on a law
(07:21):
called the Alien Enemies Act, which is a law that
was signed into law by in seventeen ninety eight by
President John Adams. And what the Trump administration did is
it classified a transnational criminal gang trender Aragua as an
arm of a hostile government Venezuela. And based on that law,
there are very broad legal authorities to deport those who
(07:46):
are part of a hostile government waging war on the
United States. That was the basis of the deportations. The
district judge, Judge Boseburg, had tried to shut down all
these deportations, and thankfully the Supreme Court, by a votified
to four ended that and said, if you got an
issue with a particular deportation, bring a case, but bring
(08:06):
it in the location where the individual is detained. And
they did say you got to give them a reasonable
time to challenge it. And so that that presumably will
slow down the deportation slightly, but I don't expect it
will slow it down much. It may slow it down
a matter of days rather than months.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And to be clear, this is a victory because it
allows the President to continue doing what he wanted to
do when it comes to deportations. If this would have
gone the other way, this could have been catastrophic.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
No, that's exactly right. Look, the election in November was
a clear mandate to secure the border and to end
the invasion at our southern border, and the Trump administration
has been following through on that mandate and has been
deporting vast numbers of criminal illealiens. The left is losing
(08:56):
their mind, and that that is was the basis of
this injunction. Thankfully the Supreme Court reversed that. Now there's
another victory that occurred, which is another five to four
decision where the Supreme Court concluded that it was okay
to cancel six hundred million dollars in teacher training grants,
(09:16):
sixty five million of that had yet to be distributed.
And there you had a different majority. You had Clarence Thomas,
Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsich, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Cony Barrett.
So she was in the five to four. The Chief
Justice joined the liberals. So in the Venezuelan case, Amy
Cony Barrett joined the liberals. In the case about canceling
(09:39):
the teacher training grants, it was the Chief Justice who
joined the liberals. And what the court concluded in this
other case is that that should have been brought in
the Court of Federal Claims. That if you have a
claim against money being given from the federal government, that
the proper venue for challenging that is the Court of
Federal Claims. Now, look, some might say, God, these decisions
(10:01):
are narrow and technical, and they are. But that being said,
they're nonetheless victories against district judges that are engaged in
law fair that are trying to shut down the Trump
administration's agenda and the agenda they were elected to implement
(10:21):
by the American people.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So when you look at this, these really these three
big decisions, does this also empower the Trump team and
administration to do their job now saying hey, we now
know that when we go to court, we're going to
be our site is going to be at least listened to,
and it's not stacked against us, and we're doing the
right thing within the law.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So yes and no. No, we've only talked about two
of the cases. Let me talk about the third one.
The third one was there was an order from a
district judge that was ordering the Trump administration to reinstate
sixteen thousand federal employees that it had fired. Yeah, and
that went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court
(11:03):
actually by a voter seven to two, reversed it. And
and and and they said, uh, that that the these
federal employees did not have to be reinstated. The two
liberal justices that dissented were Sonya Sotomayor and Katanji Brown Jackson.
But the full court what happened in that case, It
(11:25):
was an injunction that was issued by Judge William Alsop
who was who's a district judge in San Francisco, and
he required the reinstatement of probationary employments at multiple agencies
that the Trump administration had sought to dismiss. Uh. The
judge was appointed by Bill Clinton, and the judge concluded
that the administration hadn't followed the proper procedures for the
(11:49):
for the firing. Well the Supreme Court disagreed, and seven
to they reversed that, which is yet another victory. So
if you look at the combination of these, you have
a victory for deporting violent criminal gang member illegal aliens.
You have a victory for canceling grants that were given
(12:10):
and grants that were given, in the Trump Administration's view, inappropriately.
And you have a victory for dismissing sixteen thousand, primarily
probationary employees from federal agencies. In all three of them,
you had federal district judges that had stepped in and said, no,
we're going to stop you from carrying out this agenda.
And in all three of them, the Supreme Court, albeit
(12:32):
on technical grounds, reversed or vacated the district court's orders.
This is a very, very good development because it's exactly
what we talked about the remedy for lawless decisions by
district courts. The best remedy is the appellate process and
the US Supreme Court. Now we've talked about on this podcast,
(12:53):
how there are other remedies, how Congress could pass legislation
limiting nationwide injunctions support that. In fact, i'm the co
sponsor of legislation to do that, but the problem is
the Democrats will filibuster that. It will never get sixty votes.
Another possible remedies impeachment. It is possible the House of
Representatives could impeach a district judge who had egregiously abused
(13:16):
his power. That takes simply a majority vote in the
House of Representatives two utter and eighteen. The Republicans could
vote to do that. However, to convict a judge under
the constitution takes two thirds of the Senate, which means
we would need a lot of Democrats. We would get zero,
So impeachment will not be an effective remedy either. That
(13:37):
means we really are dependent on the pellet process of
the Supreme Court. And I'm very encouraged to have three
victories within just a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, these are big victories.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And this is also, like you said, gonna encourage I
think the Trump administration to continue to make bold moves
and say, hey, you guys want to sue, go ahead,
We'll see you in court and we'll see what happens there.
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also about this other shocking news that's come out that's
been exposed with DOGE, and that is that there were
a whole lot of illegal immigrants that were receiving Social
Security numbers right away. It made them eligible for a
lot of government program government aid, and was costing American
(16:13):
taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. And this was all
done on purpose by the prior administration.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, there's a great story
about this in the Daily Wire. It begins with quote,
according to the latest numbers reported by the Department of Government, efficiency.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Doge.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Nearly four million non citizens were issued social Security numbers
in the United States during former President Joe Biden's time
in the White House. Stuart Varney broke down some of
the details during Tuesday Mornings broadcast of his Fox Business show,
showing how the numbers exploded from two hundred and seventy thousand,
four hundred and twenty five in Biden's first year in
(16:53):
office up to two million, ninety five thousand, two hundred
and forty seven in his last year as president.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And in fact, we've got that audio Stewart, I want
to play it for everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Doze exposed our immigration asylum disaster. That was the tip
of the iceberg.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Now here's the story.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Doze has found that Immigration gave a work authorization document
to illegals just five months after they filed for asylum.
That document allowed them to work while they waited to
hear whether their asylum request of being accepted or denied.
So they could work as an illegal. Knowing it would
take years before their case was heard, the Immigration Department
(17:38):
mailed them a social Security number, no interview, no proof
of identity to put it in the mail. Here's your
number in twenty twenty one. Does says two hundred and
seventy thousand new aliens were issued social Security numbers five
hundred and ninety twenty twenty two, nine hundred and sixty
four thousand twenty twenty three, and two point one million
(17:58):
in twenty four right before Biden left office. Dose also
discovered that one point three million aliens are now receiving medicaid.
Millions received driver's licenses, Some registered to vote, and Doe
says some actually did vote. Try and square that against
Democrat claims that Musk is destroying social security and cutting
(18:19):
Medicaid is not destroying. He's weeding out people. Don't qualify
who is really guilty of misinformation in this case, it
is not Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
By the way, One of the things that he said
there was we were mailing out these Social Security cards
to people that had had no proof of who they were,
no proof of identity. Just here you go, sign up
and bam, will give you a bunch of govermin aide,
including as he mentioned, their medicaid.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
No, it's an amazing quote. No interview, no proof of identity,
just put it the mail. And the important thing to understand,
this was not by accident. This is not because the
Biden administration was incompetent. It's not because they're lazy. This
was their intention. You don't go from two hundred thousand
(19:05):
to two million in four years by accident. They made
a conscious decision. Number one, the twelve million illegal immigrants
that invaded this country under Joe Biden, they made a
conscious decision, let's open up our borders. We want this
to happen. Number two, the four million non citizens who
got Social Security numbers. They made a conscious decision. We
(19:27):
want every one of them. Look the reason why I've
had people ask me why would the Democrats allow this
horrific invasion. It hurt them politically, It hurt them badly.
Don't any of them say, gosh, this is egregious and
it's a simple political calculus. I believe the Democrats decided
every illegal immigrant in America is a future Democrat voter,
(19:51):
and so we'll take twelve million, even if it includes
murderers and rapists and child molesters and gang members, because
we want power, and so hand in hand with that
is giving them so Security numbers. Even if it's fraudulent.
They don't care and and this is yet another example
(20:11):
of the abusive power we've seen over the last four years,
in particular that is being exposed by Elon musk Andy
by President Trump.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So how do we turn this off? I mean, there's
this many that are out there. And if you go
back over the numbers that you that you mentioned and
that Stuart mentioned there that the number of people that
are that got these Social Security cards just in the
fiscal year twenty twenty four over two million, about a
million and twenty three five hundred or ninety thousand, almost
(20:41):
six hundred thy twenty two and two hundred and twenty
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
How do we turn those off?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
How do we say, no, you don't need this and
you were given this was abusive power. No, we're not
going to have you getting all this free garment. Aide
is that where Congress has to step in and say, hey,
we got to go back through all the son says
and so security numbers that have been issued and connect
the dots of those that were issued.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Are you getting government aid?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yes, Congress should act, But at the same time, I
think the Trump administration has ample authority to act, and
I think Elon musk views that really is a very
significant part of his mandate.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
One of the things Stuart Varney reported on he said,
quote Doge also discovered that one point three million Aliens
are now receiving medicaid. Millions received driver's licenses, some registered
to vote, and Doge said some actually did vote. Try
(21:39):
and square that against Democrat claims that Musk is destroying
so security and cutting Medicaid. He's not destroying He's weeding
out people who don't qualify. Who's really guilty of misinformation
in this case, it's not Elon Musk. And that point
I think is exactly right. That I think the Trump
Adventists Station has a real mandate to go find waste fraud, abuse,
(22:04):
and go find illegal immigrants that are wrongly receiving government
benefits and cut them off. And I think Congress should
back them up. But I also think the Trump administration
is going to do so on its own, and I
think that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Senator.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
There's also another important story that is one that is
I think exciting for transparency but also frustrating at the
same time. You have opened an investigation into US Fencing
over their transathlete policy. Give us the backstory on this
and why you're so involved.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
So USA Fencing has received widespread criticism for something that
happened last week. Stephanie Turner, who's a female fencer. She
refused to compete against a transgender opponent, a biological male
who decided that he was a she. And what happened
(23:00):
and is Stephanie Turner. Rather than compete against this biological mail,
Stephanie Turner took a knee and as a result, she
was disqualified from the tournament. She was given a black
card and disqualified from the tournament. It was treated as forfeiting.
And I saw this frankly. I saw this on X
(23:23):
I saw this on Twitter, and I thought this was
outrageous because women should not be forced to compete against
men in sports. That's not right now. As you know,
I am the chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science,
and Transportation. The Commerce Committee has massive jurisdiction, as jurisdiction
over roughly forty percent of the US economy. One of
(23:46):
the things we have jurisdiction over is sports. We have
jurisdiction over collegiate sports, Olympic sports, and any kind of
sports competition, and fencing is explicitly it is the vehicle
(24:07):
through which the American fencing team in the Olympics has chosen.
And so last week I launched an investigation and I
sent an oversight letter to USA Fencing asking for the
documents on what their policy is, how many transgender athletes
(24:28):
have attempted to compete, how many women they have disqualified
for decline and compete, how many injuries have occurred. Look,
there are biological differences. Men are made differently than women,
and we've seen in many other sports significant injuries from
women being forced to compete against biological men. And at
(24:49):
the end of the day, the Congress has a very
direct remedy, which is we have the ability to cease
the designation and of USA Fencing as the organization that
chooses US Olympic athletes. And so this oversight is an effort.
I want to get them to change their policy. I
(25:10):
want to get them to protect women. I think women's
sports matters, girls sports matters, and I don't think any
women should be forced to compete against a man in sports.
I don't think any girl should be forced to compete
against a boy in sports.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
What does it look like if they're actually held accountable
for this.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
What it looks like is they change their policies that
that is my objective here, is to change the policy
so that you don't end up having having women discriminated
against and put in a position where they're competing unfairly,
where they're put in a position where they're risking real,
(25:50):
real injuries.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It'll be very interesting to see what that injury report
looks like. Is there a timeline for them getting back
to you with this request?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So here's what I said my letter. I wrote it
to the chief executive officer of USA Fencing, and I said,
dear mister Andrews, it has come to my attention that
USA Fencing is still permitting men to compete in women's
fencing in violation of federal law. I'm writing to ask
why your organization is the recognized national governing body for
fencing in the United States, but to remain so, it
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must comply with the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee
rules and procedures, its statutory obligations to protect women, and
President Trump's recent executive order on keeping men out of
women's sports. If it does not and instead continues to
put women at risk, Congress may be forced to terminate
(26:41):
USA Fencing's NGB certification. Last week, Stephanie Turner, from the
Fencing Academy of Philadelphia competed at the USA Fencing sanctioned
Cherry Blossom Open Circuit at the University of Maryland. The
young woman was set to face a man who now
claims to be a transgender woman and a fencing bans However,
at the start of the match, Miss Turner bravely took
(27:03):
a knee and refused to compete against her male opponent.
In response to this young woman's courage, tournament officials presented
her with a black card and disqualified her from the
entire tournament. USA's Fencing's Director of Communications, Brian Wendell, said
the young woman's disqualification was quote the direct result of
(27:25):
her decision to decline defense an eligible opponent, a supposed
violation of the International Fencing Federation rules. He reiterated the
USA Fencing's remains committed to inclusivity. USA Fencing's commitment to
inclusivity is nothing less than a full throat of support
for males competing in women's sports in violation of federal law.
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As the recognized MGB for Fencing. USA Fencing is required
to provide quote support and encouragement for participation by women
were separate programs for male and female end athletes are
conducted on a national basis, as well as quote safe
environments and sports. Failure to do so is grounds for
(28:08):
the United States Congress to terminate USA Fencing certification as
an MGB. And I go on to say that they
have to comply with President Trump's executive order. And I
point out that male fencers naturally possess inherent advantages over
potential female competitors. Men tend to be taller, have greater
(28:29):
muscle mass, and more testosterone, all advantages for fencing movements
like lunges, jumping, or leg power measures. And I point
out that under the rules of the Senate, the Commerce
Committee has a duty and an authority to review and
study on a continuing basis both sports and sports agencies
(28:49):
such as USA Fencing, and so I ask, I ask
a whole series of questions, and I want documents and
answers by April twenty first, twenty twenty five, and it's
documents about their transgender policy. How many men or transgender
women currently compete in the women's division, in the last
four years. How many bouts have occurred between transgender women
(29:12):
and women? How many times did the female athlete prevail?
How many times did the female athletes suffer an injury?
Does USA Fencing comply with the President's executive order? And
I have a whole series of additional questions, But this
is an example of holding to account. And you've got
throughout sports these radical associations, organizations that have embrace the
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