July 27, 2024 • 39 mins
Today on The Panel, Tim Beveridge was joined by Pete Wolfkamp and Mark Crysell to discuss the biggest stories of the past week.
The Olympics opening ceremony took place this morning in Paris, the Canadian Women's football team coach was sent home following drone spying allegations, Joe Biden and Barack Obama have both endorsed Kama Harris, the Green Party AGM kicks off today, two astronauts are stuck in space after discovering multiple leaks in their Boeing-built ship, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from news Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right now, it is time for the panel and to introduce.
I normally come up with some sort of smart ale
introduction for my guests, especially if they're a bit long
in the tooth. But I thought, but I thought, no,
not this time. He is the silver Fox of journalism.
He's an institution. He's Mark Kreisel.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hello, how are you? Shortest one ever? What's that?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
That's the shortest one ever? Well, but I've parodied you
too much? Yes, but how are you? I'm good, mate.
You don't get a body like this without a lot
of hard work. Thank god, I'm on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, and he's sort of a silver fox, but not
quite as silver.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It was just as much of a fox, of course.
He's the resident builder Fox. It is Pete Wolfcamp.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Hello, Pete.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't know where that long in the tooth thing
came out of. We're all long in the tooth, aren't we?
Well beyond your generation?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Zed? That sounds like you're just digging a big hole
for yourself. Yeah, okay, I think let's move on to
but how are you? Pete?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Keeping out of mischief.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah, it's still plenty on.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So how much time do you spend on the tools
these days?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I hung a door yesterday, well, hung very well. Oh no,
just slotted straight in.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's really fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
That was great. Does that mean you're not spending a
lot of the hanging of a door as.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Your your extraordinary part of my week? To be fair,
it had been a job that I'd promised someone that
I would do for a long time, and then for
any number of reasons, I didn't get round to doing it.
And then yesterday it was like, right, I'm going to
go and do that.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Hanging your door must be sorry, Peter, hanging your door
must be hard, harder than it looks.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It looks hard. Actually, be honest, I think just right,
you know.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I feel I've got to be completely honest. It was
a kitchen door, right, so it's too click on it
just okay, okay. But yes, doors have this magical ability
where you can take a door off, work on it,
and when you go to hang it again, it's chained shape. Yeah,
it won't fit. It happens almost every single time.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And that's are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If you just take it off at the hinges or
if you actually take off the hinge plates and all that.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yeah, you can drive the pins out and you go
put it back in and it doesn't fit.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Years ago, a long time, another life away. I used
to be a fencing contract and.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I think that was part of one of your other introductions.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
We've moved on from that. We've moved on, but used
to hang gates and it was it was so hard
just getting it right.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I took a lot of a fence from that. Oh god,
do we have a drum roll for that? There we go.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I brother used to do of fencing in this company
was called Parry and Thrust.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's not bad.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Actually that is quite a good name for a fencing company.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
A little confusing for some.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But yeah, hey, now the Olympics are underway. Firstly, are
you guys Olympic junkies?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Are're looking forward to the Olympics?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Peter, I don't know if i'd describe myself as an
Olympic junkie, but there there are parts of it that
will be spectacular. I'm not sure about them. I'm not
going to start for the breakdancing, for example. All this
is skateboarding in there as well.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, skateboarding surfing will be amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I saw those waves out at Tahiti in Chiapu.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's like one of the scariest, most spectacular waves in
the world.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And I love this.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Like they've got the sailing of Marseille, they've got the
surfing in Tahiti. I think it's yeah, they've made the
most had the opening ceremony.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yes, well, before we get onto that, actually that you
mentioned the breakdancing because you have written off the back
break dancing, I think there's going to be a lot
of curious watching and you're probably gonna look at it
and go, how.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The hell do that?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Sure, it's spectacular, I'm just not sure that it qualifies.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
As swimming snchronized swimming. I mean, that's one of the
joys of life times and.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The Olympics are one of those things you grow into
Like when they come it's like, oh my god, it's
the Olympics again. And then as you you grow into it,
you know you got is the athletics and there's something
amazing there, or there's a weightlifted doing something extraordinary, and
once those personnelity do start to grow with it, you
get into it. But I don't think it's something you
look forward to as much.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Looking forward to the Veldrome events. Yeah, the Karen and
they those things.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Actually, the thing is there's so much to choose from.
As I went to have a look at the guide
and thinking what am I going to watch? When you realize,
you know, there's just you can't keep up with it
all obviously because it's just so much. I used to
traditionally used to love the gymnastics because I don't know,
it's just in the days where we only had one
or two channels probably, But the track and field we've
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I mean, we've got the prospect of some medals on
the track and field, which to me, to me, a
track and field medal is pretty much the ultimate for
Olympics because I don't know why, but because it's just
I mean, the idea of Hamish getting a gold medal
or possibly in the in the Hamish care Actually I
suddenly had a mental blank on his name. But Eliza
McCartney could be in there as well, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
God, and I apologize, but I forget her name. That
great woman's sprinter, Oh Hobbs so hot, so she's amazing
and she comes from Taranaki as well, which makes it
doubly amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So no, I actually I think I think if she
gets the final, that.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Would be just I think the final would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
To get to the semi final would be pretty good
as well. But there's something about I mean, well, to me,
getting into the semi final final of one hundred meters
is one of the greater Olympic achievements I can think of,
because I don't know, it's just it's the ultimate, the sprint,
the track and field, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I remember as a kid we were living in Wellington
at the time. I was going to Plympton School and
one of the teacher's husbands was a member of the
rowing eight and he brought his gold medal to school
and I just wasn't in the class. She wasn't my teacher,
but I remember walking past that classroom and catching a
glimpse of it through the window. Wow, and oh my god,
what a thrill. And I think there's something about the
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Olympics with those athletes that come from a lot of
small towns, come from all over New Zealand, and not
all just from Auckland or Wellington or christ Church. There's
something really aspirational about it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I love that about them.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm not I wasn't really and I'm not really into
some of the sports that have their own masters, like
the tennis and the golf, And in a way, I
wasn't really that into the Sevens until I watched the
guys play their first game against South Africa, and I thought,
this team are amazing and I couldn't believe again and lost.
I just thought the skill level, and I suddenly realized
how much I cared about the Sevens. I didn't realize
(06:32):
until until I watched. But it's because in that first
game against South Africa, the skill level and just we
just looked amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And then and then I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
We faced how did we face a team that we
beaten pool play and ended up facing them for the quarterfinals.
But anyway, yes, okay, let's move on to the opening ceremony. Mark,
you haven't seen.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It, No, I haven't, so you guys can't say anything
spoiler alert.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I'll watch it late.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I watched, and I'm not really an opening ceremonies kind
of guy, but I did love the London one where
they threw the queen out of helicopter James Bond and
they built the beautiful hill with all the villages and
things like that. I thought that was amazing. So I
will have a look at the Paris one. You guys
need to tell me if it's worth it. I look, Peter,
(07:20):
where you go.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Well, judging by the noise coming from the front room
at my place while I was having a snooze, it
sounded spectacular and I caught the end. And what I
absolutely love is the way in which Paris has been showcased.
I think by putting so many of the events in
the city. You know, I think the beach volleyball is
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going to be, you know, within viewing distance of the
Eiffel Tower. I mean, that's spectacular. And so if you've
got all of these fantastic, well renowned, you know, iconic
in the best sense of the word locations, why not
have your games right there? I think that's spectacular.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Of course, the big core was them to have to
not have the opening ceremony in a stadium, and to
feature Paris, and to have it along the Seine. And look,
it's an incredibly long ceremony. Every opening ceremony is long
because you're in the parade of athletes and things, and
they interspersed it with different acts. Lady Gaga was there.
I actually thought I thought it was just brilliant. It's
(08:20):
funny you see people. I don't think Australia liked it
because everyone everyone in Australia expect their team to be early.
But of course they were towards the end because I
think they're hosting in about eight years time or something.
But I just looked at it was so French and
I'm a bit of a Francophile. I love you know,
I love Paris. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. But
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of course it's all in real time, so you can't
people are so used to their Instagram feeds. So when
the horse, you know, the horse gets off the Seine
and it sort of has that transition, it's in real time,
so you they were interspersing it with different clips and things.
But the bit that nailed me totally was Celine Dion
seeing at the end. And the reason was I knew
(09:01):
she was, you know, we'd heard she was singing and
she was going to and I'd read that and watch
it live, watched it delayed on you you should sing
on the Eiffel Tower, and I thought, you know, we
know what she's been through with her with his stiff
person syndrome and the loss of her voice and her
recuperation on it. And I was ready for it to
be quite a frail but sort of good enough representation.
(09:22):
And she stood up that and she there and she
blew me away. I think it was probably one of
the more moving things I've seen it along tear streaming
in my checks. I was I was quite overcome by.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
This.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Might be it crank it up of it there anyway,
So she and it's one of my favorite songs as well,
Edith PF, because I was thinking they're going to do
a bit of ed PF and she came on singing.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That and I thought it was just I gave it.
I thought it was sublime. What about you, Pete.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Look, maybe I don't have the quite like anytion you
do with it, but no, Look, I think it's also
the human story because she's been quite open about in
the struggles that she's been through. I thought it was
a phenomenal recovery or interlude in her illness or whatever.
So to see her there exemplified something of the human spirit,
and that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, I think so and one of the I mean
I did see some it was it was a fairly
gender diverse sort of parade as well. I think Fox
News pundits we're not very happy with it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I was like, how, it's just so French, you
do what.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
French a jot about what anybody filled the anglers.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, actually there's a reason the French a bit arrogant.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
They have good reasons to be. Yeah, that's true. I
love the French as well. I think they're They're hilarious, infuriating.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
And to point out that when the fire broke out
in Notre Dame, right, that's mark On went, we're going
to fix it, which they have and he said we're
going to do it by the Olympics, which they didn't.
But I'm taking nothing away from that because I've been
watching the restoration.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Phenomenal performance hangout. They even had performance hanging out the
side of Notre Dump. They incorporated everything. It was just
it was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
And also there was the classic French thing with the
rail service going down because of.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well it could be some French.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well they think the Russia, they think I saw something
in the news about it being for some sort of
far left.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It could be could mean no one's no one's taken
the blame. This is the classic thing. I think every
time I've been to France the rail service has been
disrupted or there's been a strike or something like that.
There just it'll be some passionate group somewhere who's who.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Sounds like they did very well.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I wonder what it was like for the athletes, because
I did see somebody saying it's a shame that the
athletes didn't get to hear the chair of the crowd
and walking into a stadium. It's like, well, if you
want to gear the chair of the crowd when a medal,
then when a medal, and it all will be all.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I mean that's anyway. Look I give it, I give
it ten out of ten. And look it's it's difficult
to get everything right logistically phenomenally blew my mind. Then
I heard of the budget was over a billion pounds
or something zero.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
No, seriously would be, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I mean even that horse that went up the scene,
I thought that mechanical horse that was going, but the
guy I was riding up the Seine, I thought even that.
I wonder how much cost to build that. That would
have been many many thousands of euros just for that
little thing. And then ah no, anyway, there we gave Look,
if you haven't seen it, people watch the first bit
with the aerial view of Paris, check out Gaga and
(12:40):
then crank Ford, you know, look at look for New
Zealand arriving on their boat as well, and then crank
Ford to the last ten minutes and boom.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Was our boat on foils.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That would have been something.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Taking everybody else on the cyclists.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think that might have I think that might have
actually caused some problems logistically if we'd jumped the queue.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But anyway, hey, look to tell you what.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We're going to come back and discuss lots of other
things as well, but we're gonna take a break now.
And it's twenty one past three. This is news Talk
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Speaker 6 (13:15):
You know I'm falling apart in final gaggle.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes, welcome back to the weekend collective huntin Beverage.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
My esteemed guests are Pete wolf Camp and Mark Kreisel.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's better than the sort of backhanded sort of insults
I gave you at the start, wasn't that, guys?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Sorry? About that, you know anyway?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Anyway, Hey, look, just one last thing on the Olympics.
I still can't quite get get my head around the
Canadians women's football team. So the coach has been sent
home because it turns out that that drone that they
flew over a football fans training session was not their
first rodeo rodeo rodeo.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
The Canadians, of all people, Yeah there meant to be nice,
like if it was like, I don't know, the Americans
or someone who's ruthlessly wants to win all the time,
but the Canadians, they have state healthcare and everything.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And look, I'm dumb enough about soccer to wonder what
they could possibly learn from watching a soccer football from
wondering what they could have possibly learned, unless they would
just wanted to know what sort of formation the women
were running.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And to be.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Honest, the White fans aren't a great threat.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well too one close. They got the first goal.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I live in hope and our defense look pretty good
for quite a while.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Anyway, Pete, I.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Must be sending home the coach scene. I guess from
an Olympic point of view, you want to nip anything
like this in the bud, right, So it sends a
clear signal to anyone else who might be thinking about
using some sort of underhand tests across the sports.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
They should have they should have docked their points, that
they should have forfeited that match and we should have
got it, and that that would have learned them.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The hard thing with that, though, is it hits on
the players, right, and the players had nothing.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
To do with it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It would have been management.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
But everyone, it's all in.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's a team, your coaches, your physios, everyone, and if
somebody's going to block the copy bok that battery.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I mean, you know, they hit the Russians over the
drug thing. You know, they weren't allowed to compete for years.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And that wasn't every.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Russian athlete, just most of them, you know, so you
know I think, yeah, I would adopt them points. I thought,
you know if yeah, yeah. Oh by the way, just
on the team thing. The other thing I forgot to
mention was that there's a refuge Olympic team and they
gave an award to the guy who has championed that cause,
and I thought that was actually really beautiful. That was
(15:53):
something towards the end as well that I thought that
was a magnificent It is a magnificent idea. And the
guy that gave the award to I can't remember, but
he was the one who championed it. So are they stateless?
They have no state for people basically in refugee. It's
a refugee Olympic team. That's extraordinary, isn't that?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
That's fantastic?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
God, I'll get emotion at that moment. Does matter? Let's
get into the other big.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Story, which well, I mean, gosh, it's two weeks since,
just under two weeks since someone took a shot at
Donald Trump, and here we are now Joe Biden has
is not going to be standing.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It looks like it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Much in the bag for Kamala Harris before they announced her,
I wouldn't have given the Democrats much of a.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Shot full stop. But a week is a long time
in politics, isn't it. Mark.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Look, I think I know everybody said when when they
made the attempt on Donald Trump's life, that that said
he's won the you know aniz I mean like the
guy or hate the guy. I mean, that was an
extraordinary reaction to stand up and go fight, fight, fight,
But things happened, so quickly now and things turn around.
It feels like a long time ago, and it was
(17:03):
probably a little over a week. And the thing is
with America, I think America is desperate to believe. They
love the idea of believing it's something new, and they
can turn on a dime, you know, literally, And I
think this has given some real momentum. It's somebody younger,
it's fresher if they don't, you know, someone who wants
to look forward rather than back. I think it's given
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them a real chance. And I had to look at
the latest poll in the New York Times. Their neck
and neck now, whereas before Trump was just pulling away.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
There will be a lot of nasty stuff happening in
this election. I think they'll play on the fact that
she's a woman. They'll play on the fact that she's
an African American woman, she's an Asian American woman, and
there'll be a lot of nasty stuff I think comes out.
But I think there's going to be a real momentum
behind her, and there's going to be a lot of
young people and a lot of people who will vote
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this time because well, a lot of people just wouldn't
have gone out for a number of new voter registrations.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I think went through went through the roof people. Do
you think, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right, Mike in terms
of how quickly this is mo and I agree with you.
I saw the assassination and then thought, oh, well that's
that says ticket to the White House effectively, and then
you know, Joe Biden finally finally, finally, finally accepting reality
and standing down endorsing Kamala. I mean, whether or not
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the Democrats at their convention decide to sort of self
destruct and have some tortuous election process, or whether they'll
go actually the best thing for all of us is
just to appear united and go ahead. Then it becomes
a question of who's the running mate, who's the VP.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
They don't have time, they haven't got time, they just
got no time. Well, they've got to get behind her
and go, go, go.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
She's got Obama's he's Michelle, and Barack Obama just an
indorster as well.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think just sender A Dorn and I think there's
something in this now that if someone who's around for
a while and they get kicked around and you're pulled
apart and you look inside their homes, you know them
really well. But if someone comes in late in the game,
there's real energy in that they new they haven't you
haven't got sick of them yet, and they just roll along.
And I think, you know, not that I'm saying this
(19:08):
should be a tactic for all political parties, but if
you can get into like a month before the election,
it probably helps.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Here's here's the thing as well. And look, I've got
to own up to. Before she was sort of anointed,
I thought, oh, I don't know, and I was impressed
with her sort of four years ago, and then she
dropped off the radar, and I thought, oh, maybe you
were just all to anyway, I thought that it wouldn't
work for her, But I actually, I'll make a prediction now.
I actually think she's going to do it. Yeah, I
(19:35):
think that the one thing. And I don't know how
when else's reaction to this was, but the attack politics
that Trump has played with Biden and all that sort
of stuff, it just sounds like the tired old fat
bully boy Trump rolling out the same sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
What did you call that?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
She was abum three weeks ago she was a bumer
failed VP.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
He's trolling her.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And I don't know if Americans might if we're all
it doesn't matter about us, but if people might be
getting a bit sick of that tired old, you know,
Trump crap.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
All she has to do is stand up and say
over and over and over again, sorry, pro choice, pro choice,
pro choice, because there is over sixty percent of Americans
believe in the right people's right to abortion. That those
those those bills that have been driven through by the
Republican led states have been incredibly unpopular. And women make
(20:27):
up well over half half of the electorate. And if
you you know, if you go against women, they're going
to vote against you. So I think I think she's
got a really good chance. There's still a lot of
work to do, and that crazy system in America, the
electoral college is a tough one. So it come down
to places like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, Ohio. You know,
(20:52):
you know, Carmela might be like Hillary Clinton and win
the popular vote but lose.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Number she needs to the other The actually, the VP thing,
I saw an article about the top of the four
possible packs, because it's going to be a bloke, but
the one who seems to be sneaking, screeping his mark
Kelly Astronaut and his CV, I mean they to be
he's impressive.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
In fact, if it went for Garmela, he might have
fancied his own chance at running for the.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, he'll be hard to beat.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
He's also Gifford's husband, is that right, the woman who
was shocked.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And another guy called Jeff Bsher, who's another guy who's
succeeded in some sort of conservative areas.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
He was a fighter pilots in the Gulf War.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
No, he's got a lot going on for him, and
apparently he's very good on the border as well. He
understands it really well and he's done some really good
working around that.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So okay, so call it who's going to win?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I like making predictions because you know what, who cares
if you get wrong. It's like a sporting prediction. I
think I think she'll do it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I think she's going to go. There's still I mean,
there's still.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
A long way to go.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Can you think it happen here? It is?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
If I had to stick one hundred bucks in which
one way a couple of weeks ago would have been like,
I think I better put it on Trump, And I
don't think i'd better.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I just don't. I just don't want to see him
back in there. I always remember there was a Canadian
professor wrote about living in Canada during the Trump years,
said it was like living above a meth lab.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And I don't think.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
The world needs any more of that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
The world is fragile.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
We're just getting over COVID and inflation and cost of
living and everything like that. We do not need Donald
Trump adds.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That mix.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Seems slightly anti climactic. But the Green Party AGM is
kicking off today, possibly not capturing the same amount of
headlines as Kamala Harris. But I guess the big issue
they've got to sort out is the fate of form.
Well that their former member Darling Tana, who is now
I think she's independent, sitting there cozially next to the
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Mary Party.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Isn't she ride the back.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
She's like in a little corner all by her own self.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Although I saw an image I saw her sitting next
to Debbie Naruwapaka when Debbie was talking to Parliament the
other day. She was sitting in the in the seat
next to her.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
She must have crept up.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Her place is right at the back. I mean, I
just think this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
She's got to go.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
She got what two thousand votes or something all up.
You know, she's just there on the coattails of the
Green Party. I'm so sick of people going in and
and and you know, on the party vote and then
just doing something horrendous and then leaving and sitting there
as an independent. It's honestly kick her.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Out one hundred percent. And what I find staggering is
that she you know.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
They she's pouns there. Well, she can change them anyway.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Satana whose whose husband has run the business. Now, businesses
fail all the time, that happens, but the liquidators report
us out. One of the creditors of the business is
the Inland Revenue Department. The figure that I saw was
one hundred and forty four thousand dollars, right, which again, businesses,
they fail, right, these things happen. However, she is in
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Parliament being paid by the tax payers while not paying tax.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yep, there's an iity there. That's very pete. That is
a great it's good as.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
A business owner knows what it is to do your
GST and your provisional tax and your terminal tax and
all the rest of.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It esc and then you don't. I think what hurts
for the Greens too is it's anti migrants, you know,
exploiting migrants. Yes came over, which would go really hard
against the Greens who see themselves as a very principal
party and will be tearing themselves apart internally about what
to actually do with this.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Here's the thing I don't There's a reason I like
the Waker jumping legislation because it enables us to get
rid of people like Darling Tanna, and there are some
other examples we can probably think of a big back
in history.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But here's the other side of it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Though, I still don't like the idea that it puts
this sort of onus on that puts all the control
and the party in a way too much. And so
I still haven't worked out whether I like the legislation,
because if how many MPs are put into electric seats
and they win an electorate, and do we know much
(25:28):
more about them than we do about list MPs, and
you cannot get rid of an electric MP. So I
just wonder if it puts the onus on parties, any party,
to make sure that the person they stick up there
is the only.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Reason that she is in parliament. Tanna is in parliament
is because she joined with the Green Party righta to
her own device that she would never be elected to
the House of Representatives. So it's different. I think if
it's an electoral vote, if I happen to vote for
Joe who's in my electorate, and then he decides he
doesn't like the party that he's been associated with, he
could arguably still say well, I got those votes from
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my constituents, and.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
She's holding to see that that could be someone who
would be really engaged in doing something positive and moving forward.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You know, I mean to.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Achieve I would be dishonest if I didn't repeat my
comments I made it, and my earlier talkback show that.
You know, it's hardly the seat's going to be filled
with a high flag. I think the Greens are quite
low on I think their depth seems to be to
be a little bit shallow, and I find it kind
of hard case and the part of me thinks, well,
we're paying the salary for someone who's not going to
be doing much anyway. This is hilarious. Stay in there, Darlene,
(26:36):
it's just so entertaining.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, no, no, I think she should go. But
I guess there's also the side where there are, you know,
people who feel that they didn't leave the party, the
party left them.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
You know, if your party.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Does turn a smaller party turns and does something that
you find something to take a principal stand on.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I think that's quite different.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But yes, that's right, you've been busted.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, gusted, and.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Actually, come on, leadership of the Green Bee leaders, don't
wait for evem to go.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
We will vote on this. Just that's the way they roll.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
That's intriguing.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
As will they be able to be pragmatic, Well, it's
going to be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We're going to find out.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I think we might even be I'm not sure who
we've got on our show tomorrow for politics, but we
might be able to off some more further insight tomorrow.
So you guys are going to have to stay tuned
because it's going to.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Be hot, hot, hot.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
We may just stay here, they just just stay in
the road stretcher anyway.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Anyway, right, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
It is at twenty one minutes to four News talk
s B.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
It's stip Whosa feels like Gordy of Nose. Just how
to take and welcome back to the weekend Collective.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I do love it some of the texts of rolled
and it always happens with American politics, saying you guys.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Are so opinionated. The point and unfortunately, I guess sometimes we.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
All imagine listening to us if we didn't have an
opinion mentioned, if we did.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
A week in collective, we will sit on the fence. Well,
on the one hand, you could say such and such,
but I don't know. On the other hand, what do
you think? And Pete goes, well, you're right. On the
one hand you could say this, but on there, Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Thank you for your contribution, Thank you for yours, Mark,
thank you for thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Hey, just it is a political story, but it's not
in terms of whether you right left or whatever. But
Nelson Man next Smith wants to get rid of sandwich boards.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
No he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, I'm just reading the headline, Pete.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
The media today it's all about the bloody headlines.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
They're looking at. I think they're worried about obstacles on
the pavement.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Aren't they obscules.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Or visual pollution?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
No, it's I think because I listened to the interview
and so when he was talking to Hosking and saying, look,
it's a proposal that's been put forward by some of
the counselors who obviously have been lobbied by disability groups
and sold which is fair enough. Around we're having reasonable
access unimpeded access on the footpath. That makes sense, yes,
But he's just going, look, it's just the timing's really bad.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
We've got retailers that are struggling already, and a number
of them would say we get people walking into the
store because they can see what the store's about because
there's a sandwich board on there, but they're supposed to
only have one and some as most people do kind
of trying.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So just don't impede the sidewalk. If you've got a
wide sidewalk, then sure, go with your sandwich board. And
if it's stopping people getting along it, then get rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But it's common.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I spent a day once with a friend of mine's
brother who is in a wheelchair going around was a
Wellington actually going around shops and oh my god, what
an eye opener. I'd never ever really you know, typical selfish,
able bodied person, never really thought about it. But oh
my god, just going somewhere with a wheelchair and little
steps and places that you don't expect them, and stores
(30:00):
and stuff. So I mean, I was completely humbled by
that day. So I'm actually on side to take and
get rid of the bloody things.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Also, if you've got a dog and you're taking a
dog for a walk along the sidewalk, you retract, please
retract that leash.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
God, the number of times you get some little shit.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
To tangled around your ankor yes, well I couldn't think of.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
As long as that in a bag.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's that's the right.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Who thought Mark Krassle could be so mischievous with a
sense of humor? Anyway, just another story here. I think
this is another bad headline for Boeing. Two astronauts have
been stuck up in space for forty nine days after
venturing out on what was supposed to be an eight
day trip. It's forty one days longer than their plan
mission because they're Boeing built ride home, it is full
(30:46):
of leaks, full of leaks, will have to spend at
least a few more weeks, so they'll have to spend
a few more weeks at the aboard the International Space Station.
I guess when you sign up to go into space,
you sign up for that sort of thing.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
But I can't imagine they'd be too upset. I mean,
it'd be an amazing experience. You'd want to hang out
there for as long as you could, which I.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Well, it depends how long you've got.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You know, you can't pop down the that's right.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Borrowing food from the Russians.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Of course, it does seem that Boeing is yeah right.
I mean, if you we're starting up an airline, Mark.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Krysl, No, I wouldn't get a bowing.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I mean, you air Bus, you'd be chatting to them
unless you've got a real knockdown to it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
None of it really makes sense, isn't it? Bignks of
metal flying through the air. But you do have to
hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Indeed, hey, look we're going to take a moment. We'll
be back with our panelists. I'm with Mark Kryzel and
Pete wolf Camp. I'm Tim Beverages the Weekend Collective. It
is fourteen minutes to four.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
News Talk said bat.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And welcome back to the Weekend Collective. Twenty seventh of
July is and my, well, that sound like it's the
start of the show with just the last bite of
the apple or the bite of the cherry with Pete
wolf Camp and Mark Kreisel. Look, guys, I'm a big
fan of bacon, so I was wondering what you're you know,
whether this would influence the choice of where you buy
your bacon. But the winner of the best bacon and
(32:31):
ham in New Zealand has been crowned Upper Huts. Cameron
Harrison Butchery has received the Supreme Winner in the bacon
category for its honey coured streaky bacon and Sam's Butchery
and Silvadaale won the Supreme Award for ham.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Now good, I love, I do. Who doesn't look well? Okay,
I know a lot of people vegans, Muslims, Jewish people
don't like bacon. But yeah, I don't want to offend you,
but I love bacon and you guys are missing out.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Actually it's funny how I mean bacon at a cafe
If you don't like to have the odd bacon and eggs,
if a cafe has a good bacon, then you'll go
back there. But if it hasn't, they'll never see me again.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
It's all about and the.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Coffee, the bacon, and the coffee buddies.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh, how good, Well that's absolutely I haven't had one
of those for a long time.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
But just finish my show on Sunday nine o'clock Central
Flea markets on there's always a young fellow out the
back there frying up bacon and egg buddy. So I
go to the flea market, grab a coffee from Kinship,
and then go out and have bacony buddy. It's a
perfect morning.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I just I just am fascinated with how different bacon
can be as opposed to all the other cuts of meat.
I mean, a steak generally to me as a steak,
and maybe it's the way you cook it and how
how much fat there isn't it? But with bacon, it's
just the art of curing bacon is it's a mystery.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
What do you eat if you if you can't get bacon?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Facon?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
What?
Speaker 5 (33:55):
What?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
What do you mean? What?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
What?
Speaker 5 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What was that word?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Are you not a Cosmopoltan man about town?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Facon?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Yeah? Who's making facon?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Are you voting? Are you wading for the Green Party
in our Pete Walk camp. Oh, I do know? Okay,
when have you had fake it?
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Local cafe Von Dellen Dimport and Sam there serves up
a kimchi pancake. I would be into that kimchi pancake.
What is avocado?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And I think I think he does? Does he do
the or have you eaten fake it? Who's who's making
fake it?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I just think if you want to add us, if
you like the taste of bacon, just.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I also don't understand if you're not going to eat meat,
why eat something.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That looks like meat or it's a strange one, doesn't it? Yeah?
I guess.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I mean, you know what do I do?
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Some friends of us did a spaghetti bolonnaise using what's kimchi?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
What is kimchi?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Kimchi is cabbage, Like basically it's delicious. It's delicious. I
have icy and good and I have to say when
I went to North Korea, seriously, the best thing I
ate there, it's absolutely delicious.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Facon, Yeah, so is it because they don't serve bacon
that you had it or you went I'm going to
go oh, okay, really and did they have bacon?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
The Delitarian.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Did they have bacon as an option? Though? Do they
have bacon? They have no? Surely?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Thinking about the eggs benedict with HALLOOMI see there's a vegetari.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
But think about it if he had a break in,
If he had a break in, would someone steal the
facon or the bacon?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
That tells me there's time to squeeze. Another topic.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
If we've got bad punts from Mark Kreysel again, that's
the second bad one today company third possibly I think
we should just mention this for fun. But in nineteenth
century shipwreck filled with champagne has been found off the
coast of Sweden. It's loaded with dozens of bottles of
champagne and mineral water. It does sound I don't know,
(35:54):
it just sounds wonderful.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Really.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I love those stories stories.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
So it's an amazing though.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
So the mineral water apparently back in the day was
as precious as champagne. It was only drying by noble
people and the wealthy, and then and when it went
places that it had to have security with it as well.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well. I think that the reason that people drank. The
peasants in France drank wine and when they're out in
the field.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Was because the fermentation was.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Probably the reason that you weren't going to get an
upset stomach from drinking some dodgy source of water.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Would that be it?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Yes, that could be it, which is also what Kim
Butcher does.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay, and the will come and we're going to be
talking about kimchi pancakes again. Where's that place you get
the kim chi pancakes and faking once we'll give them
a plug because you've said it's pretty down town, which
one von Dell von del Cafe and dimport. Okay, just quickly,
one last thing. Are you into animated movies?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Not.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
The reason I brought this up last is because Inside
Out Too has just become the highest gross grossing highest
gross sorry, I think of kim Chi has become the
highest grossing animated film taken out. Here's the number, one
point four six billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
So I haven't seen it and I have never heard
of it. As my daughter who went.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Last week ten out of ten she said, and I
think it's a really good movie in terms of something
that that helps the kids to understand their emotions and
that sort of thing. So it's got a it's got
a good, good message. Plus it's entertaining.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
We've seen Inside Out one as the family. Haven't seen
Inside Out too yet, but it is on the list.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, okay, I'll check it out. Actually, I didn't notice
by the way back to the whole Olympic thing they
had they did fixture?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Did they feature what were those? Oh I've forgotten that
now minions.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
That's right, I didn't even watch it, and I still
know more.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
French creation the minions, the minions because yeah, well, I
mean French.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Well why were that the parison? Why were they fixing
the parents?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Maybe I don't know. Maybe this was a cute idea.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Probably how about dead pooling there too, that'd be the same.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Hey, guys, thank you, Oh no, hey, thanks so much
for joining us. Mark Cries or people Camp. We're going
to take it out with a little bit more of
Celine Dion from the closing of the ceremony. If you
get the chance to go and see.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It, do that. We'll be back shortly.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It is time for the one roof radio show and
Helen Sullivan joins us, and we'll look forward to company
and taking a cause.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Then. But enough from me.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Let's have a little bit of Saline to take us
to the break at four minutes to four.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
News Talk said by.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right now, it is time for the panel and to introduce.
I normally come up with some sort of smart ale
introduction for my guests, especially if they're a bit long
in the tooth. But I thought, but I thought, no,
not this time. He is the silver Fox of journalism.
He's an institution. He's Mark Kreisel.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hello, how are you? Shortest one ever? What's that?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
That's the shortest one ever? Well, but I've parodied you
too much? Yes, but how are you? I'm good, mate.
You don't get a body like this without a lot
of hard work. Thank god, I'm on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, and he's sort of a silver fox, but not
quite as silver.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It was just as much of a fox, of course.
He's the resident builder Fox. It is Pete Wolfcamp.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Hello, Pete.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't know where that long in the tooth thing
came out of. We're all long in the tooth, aren't we?
Well beyond your generation?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Zed? That sounds like you're just digging a big hole
for yourself. Yeah, okay, I think let's move on to
but how are you? Pete?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Keeping out of mischief.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah, it's still plenty on.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So how much time do you spend on the tools
these days?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I hung a door yesterday, well, hung very well. Oh no,
just slotted straight in.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's really fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
That was great. Does that mean you're not spending a
lot of the hanging of a door as.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Your your extraordinary part of my week? To be fair,
it had been a job that I'd promised someone that
I would do for a long time, and then for
any number of reasons, I didn't get round to doing it.
And then yesterday it was like, right, I'm going to
go and do that.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Hanging your door must be sorry, Peter, hanging your door
must be hard, harder than it looks.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It looks hard. Actually, be honest, I think just right,
you know.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I feel I've got to be completely honest. It was
a kitchen door, right, so it's too click on it
just okay, okay. But yes, doors have this magical ability
where you can take a door off, work on it,
and when you go to hang it again, it's chained shape. Yeah,
it won't fit. It happens almost every single time.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And that's are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If you just take it off at the hinges or
if you actually take off the hinge plates and all that.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yeah, you can drive the pins out and you go
put it back in and it doesn't fit.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Years ago, a long time, another life away. I used
to be a fencing contract and.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I think that was part of one of your other introductions.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
We've moved on from that. We've moved on, but used
to hang gates and it was it was so hard
just getting it right.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I took a lot of a fence from that. Oh god,
do we have a drum roll for that? There we go.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I brother used to do of fencing in this company
was called Parry and Thrust.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's not bad.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Actually that is quite a good name for a fencing company.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
A little confusing for some.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But yeah, hey, now the Olympics are underway. Firstly, are
you guys Olympic junkies?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Are're looking forward to the Olympics?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Peter, I don't know if i'd describe myself as an
Olympic junkie, but there there are parts of it that
will be spectacular. I'm not sure about them. I'm not
going to start for the breakdancing, for example. All this
is skateboarding in there as well.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, skateboarding surfing will be amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I saw those waves out at Tahiti in Chiapu.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's like one of the scariest, most spectacular waves in
the world.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And I love this.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Like they've got the sailing of Marseille, they've got the
surfing in Tahiti. I think it's yeah, they've made the
most had the opening ceremony.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yes, well, before we get onto that, actually that you
mentioned the breakdancing because you have written off the back
break dancing, I think there's going to be a lot
of curious watching and you're probably gonna look at it
and go, how.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The hell do that?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Sure, it's spectacular, I'm just not sure that it qualifies.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
As swimming snchronized swimming. I mean, that's one of the
joys of life times and.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The Olympics are one of those things you grow into
Like when they come it's like, oh my god, it's
the Olympics again. And then as you you grow into it,
you know you got is the athletics and there's something
amazing there, or there's a weightlifted doing something extraordinary, and
once those personnelity do start to grow with it, you
get into it. But I don't think it's something you
look forward to as much.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Looking forward to the Veldrome events. Yeah, the Karen and
they those things.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Actually, the thing is there's so much to choose from.
As I went to have a look at the guide
and thinking what am I going to watch? When you realize,
you know, there's just you can't keep up with it
all obviously because it's just so much. I used to
traditionally used to love the gymnastics because I don't know,
it's just in the days where we only had one
or two channels probably, But the track and field we've
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I mean, we've got the prospect of some medals on
the track and field, which to me, to me, a
track and field medal is pretty much the ultimate for
Olympics because I don't know why, but because it's just
I mean, the idea of Hamish getting a gold medal
or possibly in the in the Hamish care Actually I
suddenly had a mental blank on his name. But Eliza
McCartney could be in there as well, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
God, and I apologize, but I forget her name. That
great woman's sprinter, Oh Hobbs so hot, so she's amazing
and she comes from Taranaki as well, which makes it
doubly amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So no, I actually I think I think if she
gets the final, that.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Would be just I think the final would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
To get to the semi final would be pretty good
as well. But there's something about I mean, well, to me,
getting into the semi final final of one hundred meters
is one of the greater Olympic achievements I can think of,
because I don't know, it's just it's the ultimate, the sprint,
the track and field, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I remember as a kid we were living in Wellington
at the time. I was going to Plympton School and
one of the teacher's husbands was a member of the
rowing eight and he brought his gold medal to school
and I just wasn't in the class. She wasn't my teacher,
but I remember walking past that classroom and catching a
glimpse of it through the window. Wow, and oh my god,
what a thrill. And I think there's something about the
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Olympics with those athletes that come from a lot of
small towns, come from all over New Zealand, and not
all just from Auckland or Wellington or christ Church. There's
something really aspirational about it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I love that about them.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm not I wasn't really and I'm not really into
some of the sports that have their own masters, like
the tennis and the golf, And in a way, I
wasn't really that into the Sevens until I watched the
guys play their first game against South Africa, and I thought,
this team are amazing and I couldn't believe again and lost.
I just thought the skill level, and I suddenly realized
how much I cared about the Sevens. I didn't realize
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until until I watched. But it's because in that first
game against South Africa, the skill level and just we
just looked amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And then and then I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
We faced how did we face a team that we
beaten pool play and ended up facing them for the quarterfinals.
But anyway, yes, okay, let's move on to the opening ceremony. Mark,
you haven't seen.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It, No, I haven't, so you guys can't say anything
spoiler alert.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I'll watch it late.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I watched, and I'm not really an opening ceremonies kind
of guy, but I did love the London one where
they threw the queen out of helicopter James Bond and
they built the beautiful hill with all the villages and
things like that. I thought that was amazing. So I
will have a look at the Paris one. You guys
need to tell me if it's worth it. I look, Peter,
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where you go.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Well, judging by the noise coming from the front room
at my place while I was having a snooze, it
sounded spectacular and I caught the end. And what I
absolutely love is the way in which Paris has been showcased.
I think by putting so many of the events in
the city. You know, I think the beach volleyball is
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going to be, you know, within viewing distance of the
Eiffel Tower. I mean, that's spectacular. And so if you've
got all of these fantastic, well renowned, you know, iconic
in the best sense of the word locations, why not
have your games right there? I think that's spectacular.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Of course, the big core was them to have to
not have the opening ceremony in a stadium, and to
feature Paris, and to have it along the Seine. And look,
it's an incredibly long ceremony. Every opening ceremony is long
because you're in the parade of athletes and things, and
they interspersed it with different acts. Lady Gaga was there.
I actually thought I thought it was just brilliant. It's
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funny you see people. I don't think Australia liked it
because everyone everyone in Australia expect their team to be early.
But of course they were towards the end because I
think they're hosting in about eight years time or something.
But I just looked at it was so French and
I'm a bit of a Francophile. I love you know,
I love Paris. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. But
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of course it's all in real time, so you can't
people are so used to their Instagram feeds. So when
the horse, you know, the horse gets off the Seine
and it sort of has that transition, it's in real time,
so you they were interspersing it with different clips and things.
But the bit that nailed me totally was Celine Dion
seeing at the end. And the reason was I knew
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she was, you know, we'd heard she was singing and
she was going to and I'd read that and watch
it live, watched it delayed on you you should sing
on the Eiffel Tower, and I thought, you know, we
know what she's been through with her with his stiff
person syndrome and the loss of her voice and her
recuperation on it. And I was ready for it to
be quite a frail but sort of good enough representation.
(09:22):
And she stood up that and she there and she
blew me away. I think it was probably one of
the more moving things I've seen it along tear streaming
in my checks. I was I was quite overcome by.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
This.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Might be it crank it up of it there anyway,
So she and it's one of my favorite songs as well,
Edith PF, because I was thinking they're going to do
a bit of ed PF and she came on singing.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That and I thought it was just I gave it.
I thought it was sublime. What about you, Pete.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Look, maybe I don't have the quite like anytion you
do with it, but no, Look, I think it's also
the human story because she's been quite open about in
the struggles that she's been through. I thought it was
a phenomenal recovery or interlude in her illness or whatever.
So to see her there exemplified something of the human spirit,
and that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, I think so and one of the I mean
I did see some it was it was a fairly
gender diverse sort of parade as well. I think Fox
News pundits we're not very happy with it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I was like, how, it's just so French, you
do what.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
French a jot about what anybody filled the anglers.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, actually there's a reason the French a bit arrogant.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
They have good reasons to be. Yeah, that's true. I
love the French as well. I think they're They're hilarious, infuriating.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
And to point out that when the fire broke out
in Notre Dame, right, that's mark On went, we're going
to fix it, which they have and he said we're
going to do it by the Olympics, which they didn't.
But I'm taking nothing away from that because I've been
watching the restoration.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Phenomenal performance hangout. They even had performance hanging out the
side of Notre Dump. They incorporated everything. It was just
it was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
And also there was the classic French thing with the
rail service going down because of.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well it could be some French.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well they think the Russia, they think I saw something
in the news about it being for some sort of
far left.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It could be could mean no one's no one's taken
the blame. This is the classic thing. I think every
time I've been to France the rail service has been
disrupted or there's been a strike or something like that.
There just it'll be some passionate group somewhere who's who.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Sounds like they did very well.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I wonder what it was like for the athletes, because
I did see somebody saying it's a shame that the
athletes didn't get to hear the chair of the crowd
and walking into a stadium. It's like, well, if you
want to gear the chair of the crowd when a medal,
then when a medal, and it all will be all.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I mean that's anyway. Look I give it, I give
it ten out of ten. And look it's it's difficult
to get everything right logistically phenomenally blew my mind. Then
I heard of the budget was over a billion pounds
or something zero.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
No, seriously would be, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I mean even that horse that went up the scene,
I thought that mechanical horse that was going, but the
guy I was riding up the Seine, I thought even that.
I wonder how much cost to build that. That would
have been many many thousands of euros just for that
little thing. And then ah no, anyway, there we gave Look,
if you haven't seen it, people watch the first bit
with the aerial view of Paris, check out Gaga and
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then crank Ford, you know, look at look for New
Zealand arriving on their boat as well, and then crank
Ford to the last ten minutes and boom.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Was our boat on foils.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That would have been something.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Taking everybody else on the cyclists.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think that might have I think that might have
actually caused some problems logistically if we'd jumped the queue.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But anyway, hey, look to tell you what.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We're going to come back and discuss lots of other
things as well, but we're gonna take a break now.
And it's twenty one past three. This is news Talk
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Speaker 6 (13:15):
You know I'm falling apart in final gaggle.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes, welcome back to the weekend collective huntin Beverage.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
My esteemed guests are Pete wolf Camp and Mark Kreisel.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's better than the sort of backhanded sort of insults
I gave you at the start, wasn't that, guys?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Sorry? About that, you know anyway?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Anyway, Hey, look, just one last thing on the Olympics.
I still can't quite get get my head around the
Canadians women's football team. So the coach has been sent
home because it turns out that that drone that they
flew over a football fans training session was not their
first rodeo rodeo rodeo.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
The Canadians, of all people, Yeah there meant to be nice,
like if it was like, I don't know, the Americans
or someone who's ruthlessly wants to win all the time,
but the Canadians, they have state healthcare and everything.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And look, I'm dumb enough about soccer to wonder what
they could possibly learn from watching a soccer football from
wondering what they could have possibly learned, unless they would
just wanted to know what sort of formation the women
were running.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And to be.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Honest, the White fans aren't a great threat.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well too one close. They got the first goal.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I live in hope and our defense look pretty good
for quite a while.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Anyway, Pete, I.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Must be sending home the coach scene. I guess from
an Olympic point of view, you want to nip anything
like this in the bud, right, So it sends a
clear signal to anyone else who might be thinking about
using some sort of underhand tests across the sports.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
They should have they should have docked their points, that
they should have forfeited that match and we should have
got it, and that that would have learned them.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The hard thing with that, though, is it hits on
the players, right, and the players had nothing.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
To do with it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It would have been management.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
But everyone, it's all in.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's a team, your coaches, your physios, everyone, and if
somebody's going to block the copy bok that battery.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I mean, you know, they hit the Russians over the
drug thing. You know, they weren't allowed to compete for years.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And that wasn't every.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Russian athlete, just most of them, you know, so you
know I think, yeah, I would adopt them points. I thought,
you know if yeah, yeah. Oh by the way, just
on the team thing. The other thing I forgot to
mention was that there's a refuge Olympic team and they
gave an award to the guy who has championed that cause,
and I thought that was actually really beautiful. That was
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something towards the end as well that I thought that
was a magnificent It is a magnificent idea. And the
guy that gave the award to I can't remember, but
he was the one who championed it. So are they stateless?
They have no state for people basically in refugee. It's
a refugee Olympic team. That's extraordinary, isn't that?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
That's fantastic?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
God, I'll get emotion at that moment. Does matter? Let's
get into the other big.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Story, which well, I mean, gosh, it's two weeks since,
just under two weeks since someone took a shot at
Donald Trump, and here we are now Joe Biden has
is not going to be standing.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It looks like it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Much in the bag for Kamala Harris before they announced her,
I wouldn't have given the Democrats much of a.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Shot full stop. But a week is a long time
in politics, isn't it. Mark.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Look, I think I know everybody said when when they
made the attempt on Donald Trump's life, that that said
he's won the you know aniz I mean like the
guy or hate the guy. I mean, that was an
extraordinary reaction to stand up and go fight, fight, fight,
But things happened, so quickly now and things turn around.
It feels like a long time ago, and it was
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probably a little over a week. And the thing is
with America, I think America is desperate to believe. They
love the idea of believing it's something new, and they
can turn on a dime, you know, literally, And I
think this has given some real momentum. It's somebody younger,
it's fresher if they don't, you know, someone who wants
to look forward rather than back. I think it's given
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them a real chance. And I had to look at
the latest poll in the New York Times. Their neck
and neck now, whereas before Trump was just pulling away.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
There will be a lot of nasty stuff happening in
this election. I think they'll play on the fact that
she's a woman. They'll play on the fact that she's
an African American woman, she's an Asian American woman, and
there'll be a lot of nasty stuff I think comes out.
But I think there's going to be a real momentum
behind her, and there's going to be a lot of
young people and a lot of people who will vote
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this time because well, a lot of people just wouldn't
have gone out for a number of new voter registrations.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I think went through went through the roof people. Do
you think, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right, Mike in terms
of how quickly this is mo and I agree with you.
I saw the assassination and then thought, oh, well that's
that says ticket to the White House effectively, and then
you know, Joe Biden finally finally, finally, finally accepting reality
and standing down endorsing Kamala. I mean, whether or not
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the Democrats at their convention decide to sort of self
destruct and have some tortuous election process, or whether they'll
go actually the best thing for all of us is
just to appear united and go ahead. Then it becomes
a question of who's the running mate, who's the VP.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
They don't have time, they haven't got time, they just
got no time. Well, they've got to get behind her
and go, go, go.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
She's got Obama's he's Michelle, and Barack Obama just an
indorster as well.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think just sender A Dorn and I think there's
something in this now that if someone who's around for
a while and they get kicked around and you're pulled
apart and you look inside their homes, you know them
really well. But if someone comes in late in the game,
there's real energy in that they new they haven't you
haven't got sick of them yet, and they just roll along.
And I think, you know, not that I'm saying this
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should be a tactic for all political parties, but if
you can get into like a month before the election,
it probably helps.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Here's here's the thing as well. And look, I've got
to own up to. Before she was sort of anointed,
I thought, oh, I don't know, and I was impressed
with her sort of four years ago, and then she
dropped off the radar, and I thought, oh, maybe you
were just all to anyway, I thought that it wouldn't
work for her, But I actually, I'll make a prediction now.
I actually think she's going to do it. Yeah, I
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think that the one thing. And I don't know how
when else's reaction to this was, but the attack politics
that Trump has played with Biden and all that sort
of stuff, it just sounds like the tired old fat
bully boy Trump rolling out the same sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
What did you call that?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
She was abum three weeks ago she was a bumer
failed VP.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
He's trolling her.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And I don't know if Americans might if we're all
it doesn't matter about us, but if people might be
getting a bit sick of that tired old, you know,
Trump crap.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
All she has to do is stand up and say
over and over and over again, sorry, pro choice, pro choice,
pro choice, because there is over sixty percent of Americans
believe in the right people's right to abortion. That those
those those bills that have been driven through by the
Republican led states have been incredibly unpopular. And women make
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up well over half half of the electorate. And if
you you know, if you go against women, they're going
to vote against you. So I think I think she's
got a really good chance. There's still a lot of
work to do, and that crazy system in America, the
electoral college is a tough one. So it come down
to places like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, Ohio. You know,
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you know, Carmela might be like Hillary Clinton and win
the popular vote but lose.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Number she needs to the other The actually, the VP thing,
I saw an article about the top of the four
possible packs, because it's going to be a bloke, but
the one who seems to be sneaking, screeping his mark
Kelly Astronaut and his CV, I mean they to be
he's impressive.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
In fact, if it went for Garmela, he might have
fancied his own chance at running for the.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, he'll be hard to beat.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
He's also Gifford's husband, is that right, the woman who
was shocked.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And another guy called Jeff Bsher, who's another guy who's
succeeded in some sort of conservative areas.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
He was a fighter pilots in the Gulf War.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
No, he's got a lot going on for him, and
apparently he's very good on the border as well. He
understands it really well and he's done some really good
working around that.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So okay, so call it who's going to win?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I like making predictions because you know what, who cares
if you get wrong. It's like a sporting prediction. I
think I think she'll do it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I think she's going to go. There's still I mean,
there's still.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
A long way to go.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Can you think it happen here? It is?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
If I had to stick one hundred bucks in which
one way a couple of weeks ago would have been like,
I think I better put it on Trump, And I
don't think i'd better.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I just don't. I just don't want to see him
back in there. I always remember there was a Canadian
professor wrote about living in Canada during the Trump years,
said it was like living above a meth lab.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And I don't think.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
The world needs any more of that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
The world is fragile.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
We're just getting over COVID and inflation and cost of
living and everything like that. We do not need Donald
Trump adds.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That mix.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Seems slightly anti climactic. But the Green Party AGM is
kicking off today, possibly not capturing the same amount of
headlines as Kamala Harris. But I guess the big issue
they've got to sort out is the fate of form.
Well that their former member Darling Tana, who is now
I think she's independent, sitting there cozially next to the
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Mary Party.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Isn't she ride the back.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
She's like in a little corner all by her own self.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Although I saw an image I saw her sitting next
to Debbie Naruwapaka when Debbie was talking to Parliament the
other day. She was sitting in the in the seat
next to her.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
She must have crept up.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Her place is right at the back. I mean, I
just think this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
She's got to go.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
She got what two thousand votes or something all up.
You know, she's just there on the coattails of the
Green Party. I'm so sick of people going in and
and and you know, on the party vote and then
just doing something horrendous and then leaving and sitting there
as an independent. It's honestly kick her.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Out one hundred percent. And what I find staggering is
that she you know.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
They she's pouns there. Well, she can change them anyway.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Satana whose whose husband has run the business. Now, businesses
fail all the time, that happens, but the liquidators report
us out. One of the creditors of the business is
the Inland Revenue Department. The figure that I saw was
one hundred and forty four thousand dollars, right, which again, businesses,
they fail, right, these things happen. However, she is in
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Parliament being paid by the tax payers while not paying tax.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yep, there's an iity there. That's very pete. That is
a great it's good as.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
A business owner knows what it is to do your
GST and your provisional tax and your terminal tax and
all the rest of.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It esc and then you don't. I think what hurts
for the Greens too is it's anti migrants, you know,
exploiting migrants. Yes came over, which would go really hard
against the Greens who see themselves as a very principal
party and will be tearing themselves apart internally about what
to actually do with this.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Here's the thing I don't There's a reason I like
the Waker jumping legislation because it enables us to get
rid of people like Darling Tanna, and there are some
other examples we can probably think of a big back
in history.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But here's the other side of it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Though, I still don't like the idea that it puts
this sort of onus on that puts all the control
and the party in a way too much. And so
I still haven't worked out whether I like the legislation,
because if how many MPs are put into electric seats
and they win an electorate, and do we know much
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more about them than we do about list MPs, and
you cannot get rid of an electric MP. So I
just wonder if it puts the onus on parties, any party,
to make sure that the person they stick up there
is the only.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Reason that she is in parliament. Tanna is in parliament
is because she joined with the Green Party righta to
her own device that she would never be elected to
the House of Representatives. So it's different. I think if
it's an electoral vote, if I happen to vote for
Joe who's in my electorate, and then he decides he
doesn't like the party that he's been associated with, he
could arguably still say well, I got those votes from
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my constituents, and.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
She's holding to see that that could be someone who
would be really engaged in doing something positive and moving forward.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You know, I mean to.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Achieve I would be dishonest if I didn't repeat my
comments I made it, and my earlier talkback show that.
You know, it's hardly the seat's going to be filled
with a high flag. I think the Greens are quite
low on I think their depth seems to be to
be a little bit shallow, and I find it kind
of hard case and the part of me thinks, well,
we're paying the salary for someone who's not going to
be doing much anyway. This is hilarious. Stay in there, Darlene,
(26:36):
it's just so entertaining.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, no, no, I think she should go. But
I guess there's also the side where there are, you know,
people who feel that they didn't leave the party, the
party left them.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
You know, if your party.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Does turn a smaller party turns and does something that
you find something to take a principal stand on.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I think that's quite different.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But yes, that's right, you've been busted.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, gusted, and.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Actually, come on, leadership of the Green Bee leaders, don't
wait for evem to go.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
We will vote on this. Just that's the way they roll.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
That's intriguing.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
As will they be able to be pragmatic, Well, it's
going to be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We're going to find out.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I think we might even be I'm not sure who
we've got on our show tomorrow for politics, but we
might be able to off some more further insight tomorrow.
So you guys are going to have to stay tuned
because it's going to.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Be hot, hot, hot.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
We may just stay here, they just just stay in
the road stretcher anyway.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Anyway, right, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
It is at twenty one minutes to four News talk
s B.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
It's stip Whosa feels like Gordy of Nose. Just how
to take and welcome back to the weekend Collective.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I do love it some of the texts of rolled
and it always happens with American politics, saying you guys.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Are so opinionated. The point and unfortunately, I guess sometimes we.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
All imagine listening to us if we didn't have an
opinion mentioned, if we did.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
A week in collective, we will sit on the fence. Well,
on the one hand, you could say such and such,
but I don't know. On the other hand, what do
you think? And Pete goes, well, you're right. On the
one hand you could say this, but on there, Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Thank you for your contribution, Thank you for yours, Mark,
thank you for thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Hey, just it is a political story, but it's not
in terms of whether you right left or whatever. But
Nelson Man next Smith wants to get rid of sandwich boards.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
No he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, I'm just reading the headline, Pete.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
The media today it's all about the bloody headlines.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
They're looking at. I think they're worried about obstacles on
the pavement.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Aren't they obscules.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Or visual pollution?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
No, it's I think because I listened to the interview
and so when he was talking to Hosking and saying, look,
it's a proposal that's been put forward by some of
the counselors who obviously have been lobbied by disability groups
and sold which is fair enough. Around we're having reasonable
access unimpeded access on the footpath. That makes sense, yes,
But he's just going, look, it's just the timing's really bad.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
We've got retailers that are struggling already, and a number
of them would say we get people walking into the
store because they can see what the store's about because
there's a sandwich board on there, but they're supposed to
only have one and some as most people do kind
of trying.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So just don't impede the sidewalk. If you've got a
wide sidewalk, then sure, go with your sandwich board. And
if it's stopping people getting along it, then get rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But it's common.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I spent a day once with a friend of mine's
brother who is in a wheelchair going around was a
Wellington actually going around shops and oh my god, what
an eye opener. I'd never ever really you know, typical selfish,
able bodied person, never really thought about it. But oh
my god, just going somewhere with a wheelchair and little
steps and places that you don't expect them, and stores
(30:00):
and stuff. So I mean, I was completely humbled by
that day. So I'm actually on side to take and
get rid of the bloody things.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Also, if you've got a dog and you're taking a
dog for a walk along the sidewalk, you retract, please
retract that leash.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
God, the number of times you get some little shit.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
To tangled around your ankor yes, well I couldn't think of.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
As long as that in a bag.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's that's the right.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Who thought Mark Krassle could be so mischievous with a
sense of humor? Anyway, just another story here. I think
this is another bad headline for Boeing. Two astronauts have
been stuck up in space for forty nine days after
venturing out on what was supposed to be an eight
day trip. It's forty one days longer than their plan
mission because they're Boeing built ride home, it is full
(30:46):
of leaks, full of leaks, will have to spend at
least a few more weeks, so they'll have to spend
a few more weeks at the aboard the International Space Station.
I guess when you sign up to go into space,
you sign up for that sort of thing.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
But I can't imagine they'd be too upset. I mean,
it'd be an amazing experience. You'd want to hang out
there for as long as you could, which I.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Well, it depends how long you've got.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You know, you can't pop down the that's right.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Borrowing food from the Russians.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Of course, it does seem that Boeing is yeah right.
I mean, if you we're starting up an airline, Mark.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Krysl, No, I wouldn't get a bowing.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I mean, you air Bus, you'd be chatting to them
unless you've got a real knockdown to it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
None of it really makes sense, isn't it? Bignks of
metal flying through the air. But you do have to
hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Indeed, hey, look we're going to take a moment. We'll
be back with our panelists. I'm with Mark Kryzel and
Pete wolf Camp. I'm Tim Beverages the Weekend Collective. It
is fourteen minutes to four.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
News Talk said bat.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And welcome back to the Weekend Collective. Twenty seventh of
July is and my, well, that sound like it's the
start of the show with just the last bite of
the apple or the bite of the cherry with Pete
wolf Camp and Mark Kreisel. Look, guys, I'm a big
fan of bacon, so I was wondering what you're you know,
whether this would influence the choice of where you buy
your bacon. But the winner of the best bacon and
(32:31):
ham in New Zealand has been crowned Upper Huts. Cameron
Harrison Butchery has received the Supreme Winner in the bacon
category for its honey coured streaky bacon and Sam's Butchery
and Silvadaale won the Supreme Award for ham.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Now good, I love, I do. Who doesn't look well? Okay,
I know a lot of people vegans, Muslims, Jewish people
don't like bacon. But yeah, I don't want to offend you,
but I love bacon and you guys are missing out.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Actually it's funny how I mean bacon at a cafe
If you don't like to have the odd bacon and eggs,
if a cafe has a good bacon, then you'll go
back there. But if it hasn't, they'll never see me again.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
It's all about and the.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Coffee, the bacon, and the coffee buddies.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh, how good, Well that's absolutely I haven't had one
of those for a long time.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
But just finish my show on Sunday nine o'clock Central
Flea markets on there's always a young fellow out the
back there frying up bacon and egg buddy. So I
go to the flea market, grab a coffee from Kinship,
and then go out and have bacony buddy. It's a
perfect morning.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I just I just am fascinated with how different bacon
can be as opposed to all the other cuts of meat.
I mean, a steak generally to me as a steak,
and maybe it's the way you cook it and how
how much fat there isn't it? But with bacon, it's
just the art of curing bacon is it's a mystery.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
What do you eat if you if you can't get bacon?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Facon?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
What?
Speaker 5 (33:55):
What?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
What do you mean? What?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
What?
Speaker 5 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What was that word?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Are you not a Cosmopoltan man about town?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Facon?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Yeah? Who's making facon?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Are you voting? Are you wading for the Green Party
in our Pete Walk camp. Oh, I do know? Okay,
when have you had fake it?
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Local cafe Von Dellen Dimport and Sam there serves up
a kimchi pancake. I would be into that kimchi pancake.
What is avocado?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And I think I think he does? Does he do
the or have you eaten fake it? Who's who's making
fake it?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I just think if you want to add us, if
you like the taste of bacon, just.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I also don't understand if you're not going to eat meat,
why eat something.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That looks like meat or it's a strange one, doesn't it? Yeah?
I guess.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I mean, you know what do I do?
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Some friends of us did a spaghetti bolonnaise using what's kimchi?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
What is kimchi?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Kimchi is cabbage, Like basically it's delicious. It's delicious. I
have icy and good and I have to say when
I went to North Korea, seriously, the best thing I
ate there, it's absolutely delicious.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Facon, Yeah, so is it because they don't serve bacon
that you had it or you went I'm going to
go oh, okay, really and did they have bacon?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
The Delitarian.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Did they have bacon as an option? Though? Do they
have bacon? They have no? Surely?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Thinking about the eggs benedict with HALLOOMI see there's a vegetari.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
But think about it if he had a break in,
If he had a break in, would someone steal the
facon or the bacon?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
That tells me there's time to squeeze. Another topic.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
If we've got bad punts from Mark Kreysel again, that's
the second bad one today company third possibly I think
we should just mention this for fun. But in nineteenth
century shipwreck filled with champagne has been found off the
coast of Sweden. It's loaded with dozens of bottles of
champagne and mineral water. It does sound I don't know,
(35:54):
it just sounds wonderful.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Really.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I love those stories stories.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
So it's an amazing though.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
So the mineral water apparently back in the day was
as precious as champagne. It was only drying by noble
people and the wealthy, and then and when it went
places that it had to have security with it as well.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well. I think that the reason that people drank. The
peasants in France drank wine and when they're out in
the field.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Was because the fermentation was.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Probably the reason that you weren't going to get an
upset stomach from drinking some dodgy source of water.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Would that be it?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Yes, that could be it, which is also what Kim
Butcher does.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay, and the will come and we're going to be
talking about kimchi pancakes again. Where's that place you get
the kim chi pancakes and faking once we'll give them
a plug because you've said it's pretty down town, which
one von Dell von del Cafe and dimport. Okay, just quickly,
one last thing. Are you into animated movies?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Not.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
The reason I brought this up last is because Inside
Out Too has just become the highest gross grossing highest
gross sorry, I think of kim Chi has become the
highest grossing animated film taken out. Here's the number, one
point four six billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
So I haven't seen it and I have never heard
of it. As my daughter who went.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Last week ten out of ten she said, and I
think it's a really good movie in terms of something
that that helps the kids to understand their emotions and
that sort of thing. So it's got a it's got
a good, good message. Plus it's entertaining.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
We've seen Inside Out one as the family. Haven't seen
Inside Out too yet, but it is on the list.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, okay, I'll check it out. Actually, I didn't notice
by the way back to the whole Olympic thing they
had they did fixture?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Did they feature what were those? Oh I've forgotten that
now minions.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
That's right, I didn't even watch it, and I still
know more.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
French creation the minions, the minions because yeah, well, I
mean French.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Well why were that the parison? Why were they fixing
the parents?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Maybe I don't know. Maybe this was a cute idea.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Probably how about dead pooling there too, that'd be the same.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Hey, guys, thank you, Oh no, hey, thanks so much
for joining us. Mark Cries or people Camp. We're going
to take it out with a little bit more of
Celine Dion from the closing of the ceremony. If you
get the chance to go and see.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It, do that. We'll be back shortly.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It is time for the one roof radio show and
Helen Sullivan joins us, and we'll look forward to company
and taking a cause.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Then. But enough from me.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Let's have a little bit of Saline to take us
to the break at four minutes to four.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
News Talk said by.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
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