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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Other doctors are finally coming out and revealing the potential
adverse brutal side effects of taking the drug.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The over the counter and.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Prescription drug ibewprofen at surprisingly low doses. Experts have warned
of alarming risks of this popular painkiller Ibbie Profen, the
common over the counter medication used by millions of Americans
to alleviate pain and inflammation. And I dare say a
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good number of people that are listening to the sound
of my voice right now have the drug in their
medicine cabinet for some type of pain, arthritis, joint pain, something.
But doctors are finally warning about the risks of these drugs,
so stand by for that. We'll have that information shortly here.
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Speaker 2 (02:51):
And all points in between.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Let's get to the information about ibuprofen, which is maybe
going to shock some people. And if we get through this,
we've got a special guest coming up a little bit
later in the show. I'm gonna ask my guests to
comment on this. We're also going to be talking about
circulatory issues with my guest as well, So stand by.
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First the information about ibuprofen. Experts have warned about this drug. Now,
this drug you can go in and pull it down
off the shelf anywhere. I mean grocery stores, convenience stores,
drug stores. Complications like headache and nausea can occur even
if patients are sticking to the recommended dose.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Wait a minute, doctor Bob, I take the drug for headaches.
I can take the drug for pain.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It also has rebound side effects. Some experts say taking
just three times a day these drugs ibuprofen, and it's
in hundreds of drugs for a few months, is enough
to trigger worrying health related problems.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The comment over the kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Drug is used by tens of millions of Americans to
leave pain, introduce inflammation for example in joints, your joints,
achy breaking joints, joint pain, arthritis. But one particular doctor
has warned about the risks of the drugs that millions
take for these aches and pains. His name is doctor
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Gerald Sidovic, leading medical Pain Consultants. He says, and I quote,
taking ibuprof on a long term basis going to lead
to some seriously damaging health conditions. Now, I know a
lot of you are saying, well, I only take them
just for short period. If I got you know, overnight,
if I got pain at my knee, or I've got
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it back pain, I've got arthritis these drugs, That's exactly right.
All these drugs were never ever designed to be taken
on a long term basis. I'm talking about more than
three to five maybe seven at the most. But yet
people are taking them on a regular daily basis and
do so for months, some people even for years small doses.
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He also added the drug has been found to approximately
double the risk of hospital admission due to heart failure.
Wrap your brain around that. A drug you can go
in to a drug store anybody really and pull that
down and purchase it and taking it is for a
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certain period of time at a certain dosage can double
your risk of hospital emission due to heart failure, as
well as increase risk of blood pressure by an average
of a certain amount of points. Meanwhile, pharmacist, Now that's
a doctor, doctor Gerald Sidovitch talking there. Meanwhile, a pharmacist
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is also weighed in on this. Doctor Leah Hanbeck reports that,
and we're talking here about ibuprofen motrin, and it's in
a lot of different drugs. Doctor Hannebec reports that some
of the most common issues linked to ibuprofen are alser
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in the stomach, damaging kidney function, I don't want to
be undialysis, you might say, and cardiovascular problems. Other experts
have also issued similar warnings. You have a doctor had to.
Patel also pointed out the risks of people taking these
drugs developing rebound headaches, dizziness, nausea, and indigestion. Of course,
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indigestion makes sense because it may it's capable of creating gastritis,
and an ulcer can certainly cause indigestion right taking ibuprofen
motrin and other products like it. Now, these drugs work
by blocking the production of something called prustic land. It's
a chemical that causes pain and inflammation throughout the body.
And the danger of these drugs, which are especially risky
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to people as they age, seniors particularly, is thought to
lie in the fact that the drug can raise the
risk of blood pressure and cause internal bleeding in extreme cases.
This is because the drug can reduce the production of
a protective.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Mucus in the stomach.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean this is this is almost like taking paint
stripper into your stomach. Have you ever done that where
you're trying to get the paint off the wall, You
put stripper on, it just kind of melts it. That's
what ibuprofen basically does to the protective mucous layer in
your stomach every single time. Now, some people are more
sensitive to it, and of course the dosage is all
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related to it in the amount of time you take it.
But wow, while the recommended maximum dose is two to
four hundred milligrams every four to six hours, some studies
have found side effects can happen with eight dose much
lower than this, depending on the person, which has alarmed
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these health professionals who are finally speaking out against these insets,
these nonstret and inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen. You've got heart
failure concerns. Ibuprofen reduces the production of these inflammatory prostaglandins,
inhibiting the production of an enzyme called cox enzyme in
the kidneys, and this can lead to increased blood pressure
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and fluid build up. There's your heart heart risk factor
right there by taking ibuprofen, and I dare say most
people don't have a clue about this is what taking
ibuprofen by motrin can cause heart failure. Oh boy, maybe
I should look for some alternatives. Maybe I should get
to the reason why my pains there rather than trying
to cover it up with painting over the equivalent of
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painting over termites or putting frosting on burnt cake. Okay,
that's a good idea. These drugs were never decided to
be taking long term. Stomach inflammation also is a concern
of many doctors. Even when taking the correct dose of
ibuprofen or motrin or whatever label it has, can cause
heartburn and indigestion. Oh okay, so we got a drug
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for the heartburn and indigestion too, So doctors, you go
into your doctor's office. Doc, I'm having heartburn. After this
same doctor told you to take ibuprofen for your arthritis
or your joint pain or your back paint. Okay, so
I've got a heartburn drug for you to take, So
they pile another pharmaceut to go on to you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's the way.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
That's allopathy. But those that take over the recommended amount
can risk the extreme stomach ulcers and severe bleeding of
the digester tract. That's well known. So if you've got
stomach issues, ibuprofen is just like one gigantic aspirin, I mean,
like on steroids so to speak.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Then you've got kidney failure. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I've had many patients come into my office over the
years who are on ibuprofen for a long period of time. Well,
they had pain in their spine, they had joint pain.
We do a blood test on them and they're curret
nine levels, way off the map, and we are saying, look,
we've got to get you off this drug because you're
gonna have kidney fill you're gonna be on a dialysis
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machine soon, and then you've got liver problems. Taking high
doses can seriously damage your liver. We know this because
we see the elevation and enzymes of liver. And you've
got all the top ten of ibuprofen products out there
on Amazon, and children taking liquid Motor and strawberry flavor.
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It's out of this world crazy in my opinion, when
there may be viable options for people to deal with
inflammation or the reasons why they're taking it. We'll see
if we can get our special guests coming up. Who's
really gonna join us to talk about circulatory problems. We're
talking about intermittentquannication and flebitis and venus insufficiency and peripheral
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vascular problems. Bear cos Veins all that. We'll even get
him to comment on this same topic when he's on
the air with a standby. You're tuned into the Doctor
Bob MARTINSHIW.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Just gip he does keep breathing it, don't hyperventilate.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
After that first segment that I did on ibuprofen and
all the potential adverse side effects that doctors are finally
speaking out against this particular drug, even though obviously we
need drugs to deal with pain. You get a tooth bakee,
you get a toothache, a broken bone, you're in a
bad accident, you get a trauma, bring on the drugs
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for a short period of time. But unfortunately, people don't
treat drugs over the counter particularly like that. They just
take them forever, every single day. It's a routine. It's
like a ritual. First thing in the morning, Down goes
the anty inflammatories. Okay, we're going to shortly here ask
our special guests to comment on this on the backside
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of our interview, which we really set up to talk
about circulatory problems. But he's also very skilled in the
area of anti inflammation doing natural things. We'll ask him
his opinion of that at the back end of our
interview with him, I want to turn our attention to
the subject of circulation in the human body. Circulatory problems.
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Nobody ever thinks they're going to have him, but yeah,
tens of millions of people do have circulatory problems, and
some are serious enough that they require careful medical monitoring
and treatment, while others can be helped through lifestyle changes
and of course conservative measures just doing what you should
do to keep the body running smooth. So today I
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want to discuss how to prevent or conservatively manage circulatory problems.
And when I say circulatory problems. I'm talking about things
that you may have heard about or maybe you haven't
been diagnosed with, like deep vein thrombosis or intermittent claudication
or phlebitis or venus insufficiency where you're the bottoms of
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your legs near your ankles kind of turn red and
brownish brownish color, and or you have peripheral vascular problems
or varicose veins or spider veins, any kind of area
of your body where circulation has been limited or there's
issues going on and you know it and or your
doctor has pointed that out to you, and there's all
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kinds of reason for it. I mean, just living life,
from pregnancy to family history to traumas, and maybe it
had a surgery, or maybe you have high blood pressure,
you're overweight, maybe you smoke, or you have nutrient deficiencies.
There's a lot of reasons why these circulatory problems happen.
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And people with existing circulatory problems are often hesitant to
even fly on airplanes because they've heard of them themselves
possibly developing these DVTs, these deep vein thrombosis where they
got a block in their leg circulation. They have to
have some medical intervention on that, and it can also
be very painful. So I've invited a special guest to
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join me today to talk about circulatory problems, because many
people face this and they don't know what to do,
and they go to their doctors and they get put
on placed on risky medications or drugs, whereas there may
be other conservative measures that are available you just need
to find out about. And I'll tell you shortly here
about my sister who ran into this very problem and
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we were able to extricate her safely and naturally off
of a drug her doctor already had her on as
she was having adverts sid effects. Our special guest is
Nick Stern. Nick is a self directed nutraceutical researcher, one
of the originators of plant based nutritional protein powder, formerly
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a co founder of Sun Warrior Nutrition, and now he's
the founder of Sun Nutrition, bringing you something called and
it's really a miracle in the minds of people who
are being helped by it right now, something called vascular defense.
Vascular defense by Sun Nutrition I've talked about here on
the show. My sister absolutely cherishes it because she too,
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apparently ran into She lives in the state of Oklahoma,
long ways away from me, and I, of course, am
still her little brother. So you know, she's developing circulation
problems in her legs. She's a little overweight, not getting
the exercise she needs, not listening to her little brother's advice,
and so she developed some circulation problems and some clots
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in her legs, and she goes to her doctor because
they're painful, and her doctor places her on a drug
called Eloquess, and after suffer the side effects of that
for a couple three four weeks, she calls me up says, oh, brother,
can you help me? I think I'm in trouble, and
we go to work. We go to work by analyzing
what she was doing in her lifestyle and working on that,
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and then I recommended that she take something called write
this Down Vascular Defense by sun Nutrition over at sunnutrition
dot com. And that leads me to our special guest,
Nick Stern, who agreed to come on the program to
talk about these circulatory problems. And hopefully we'll have time
at the end to talk about that inflammation and so
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many people taking this dangerous drug called ibuprofen over the
counter or otherwise, And with that let us welcome Nick
Stern to the Doctor Bob Martin's show.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Good day to you, Nick, Good day, Doctor Bob Pleasure.
So yeah, I love your show. So yeah, so let's
go wherever you want to start. I have a similar
That's why I formulated this product so we can go.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, that's what I want you to do. That's what
I want you to do. That's what I want you
to do.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Nick.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I want you to share because you told me you
had a similar problem with your health as my sister did.
So I'm gonna let you just take your time and
tell the audience what happened to you and what you're
doing to help yourself out drug free.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yes, let's go back fifteen years. I was a competitive athlete,
never get sick, and I developed a blood clot. This
was probably close to fifteen years ago, so her story.
I believe she was on eloques. They had me on
something called Zirelto and similar to your sister. I took
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it for a week or two and I'm going, Okay,
how long do I have to be on this? The
way they sounded, they wanted me on this stuff the
rest of my life. And then to top it off,
I call it a money grab. They wanted to put
a stint. It was like a fifteen thousand dollars operation.
I go, oh boy, as you say on your show,
because I've been doing nutrition since nineteen sixty six, since
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I was fourteen. I devour everything I can about nutrition
and natural means to heal. Never got sick. I was
very surprised when I got a blood clot, but that's
another story. You can you probably tell your listeners how
you get that through inflammation, sitting. There's so many variables.
But they wanted me on this. I said, you know,
I'm going to be my own dusk doctor. Two years
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prior to this, I was doing a lot of studying
on systemic enzymes. These are done on an empty stomach.
And I told him I had one of the top
blood specialists, and he told me, have you said, have
you heard about systemic enzymes? I said, I don't feel
right taken Zerelta, I'm getting headaches, felt like my hair
was sinning. It's too weak, but that's another but it's
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I just didn't feel right, just like your sister. He
didn't know nothing about systemic enzymes, and I decided, you
know what, I'm going to go off this and I'm
going to be my own doctor. You always talked about
this on your show. So I started experimenting and I
found out a lot about the enzymes. There's an accumulation
of fibrous connective tissue that you have to break down.
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That's what leads to fibrosis and all this breakdown. You
have to break that up. So I started experimenting with
enzymes to break down this accumulation of the clotting factor,
and believe it or not, it started really working well.
And then I started researching. The enzymes have a over
a fifty year history. So I started with natocanase and
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then included Sarah pep Taste, and the new kid on
the Block in the eighties came out with lumbrocnase. I said,
you know what, I'm gonna try all three of these.
So I started putting all these enzymes together to break
down the connective tissue and all that that's fiber like
pulmonary fibrosis, kidneys, everything. Prosis of the liver is a
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connective tissue. It's called scarring. You want to break that up.
So I started adding these ins. I was getting amazing results.
Then nitric oxide releases came out a little bit later,
because we're going back fifteen years. I started adding in
the beetroot extract. I use extracts which are more powerful
than just powders, like we use a twenty to one extracts.
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So I started putting all these nitric oxide releases together
in our formula. Had amazing results. And as you said,
I own I was a creator of sun Warrior. I
went into retirement. I came out of retirement. Ooh, after
the vaccine and the COVID and all the blood clotting
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going on, I said, you know what, I'm going to
come out of retirement. I think I could help a
lot of people with this formula. I start experimenting with
people in my area and they were getting amazing results
before I went on to the market. So that's a
quick little summary right there.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Okay, Well, I just want people to know we're not here, folks,
to tell you to stop zirelto or eloquest anything you're
taking drug wise. That's something that you'll have to work
out with your pharmacist or your doctor. What we're telling you, however,
is that inflammation causes these fibroduct tissues to build up
and there's something that may help you drug free.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Are you waiting on a line?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Next take?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Are you waiting for the perfect night? How are you
waiting til the time is night? Don't you want to
learn to deal with fear? Don't you want to take
the wheel and steer it? Don't you beat another man?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
What are you hi?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Welcome you back to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Thank
you so very much for tuning into the program today.
We'll get back to our special guest momentarily.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Here. Nick Stern is with us.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
He has got a lot of expertise and experience in nutraceuticals,
meaning nutrition that can therapeutically help the human body to
help heal itself and regulate itself should it be in.
And that's exactly what we're talking about right now. We're
in the discussion about people who developed circulatory problems for
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a variety of reasons, from Verico's veins to blood cloths
to peripheral vascular disease. I mean, there's so many circulatory
problems that people have rain Ods syndrome. I mean there's
so many of them that I have seen in my
own personal practice over the years. I just wish I
had known more about this tool while I was in practice.
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We certainly helped a lot of people, but I think
they would have been helped a lot more had I
known about vascular defense then by sun nutrition. We'll get
back into that conversation with Nick Stern in a little bit.
I want to also let you know coming up on
the show today, and I know this is going to
break a lot of hearts, especially parents who this convenience
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has been just a life changing event, because I mean,
we have these chaotic lives and we're so busy all
the time. We don't have time to get into the
kitchen and cook for our our children and our family.
So we stop by that little bitty window when we
grab that bag of chicken nuggets. Right, wait and tell
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you hear this, Eating chicken nuggets regularly?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You ready for this?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Eating chicken nuggets on a regular basis may cause permanent
blindness in children.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I am kidding you.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm not kidding you on this. This is a serious story.
Eight year old boy goes permanently blind after a common
diet mistake millions of parents are guilty of. We're going
to talk about this story and if you know anybody
that is feeding their kids chicken nuggets. You don't want
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to miss this one for sure. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We'll get back to that a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Back to our conversation, however, about circulatory issues. If you're
just tuning into the program we have with us Nick Stern,
he's a nutraceutical researcher, and we're here to talking about
circulatory problems. And I'm going to see if we can
get to the inflammation side of this that I spoke
about in the first segment of the show about how
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many people are being damaged by motrend and iviewprof and
drugs and maybe what they can do to extricate themselves
from that. But right now we're talking about this because
my sister ran into the same problem. She started to
have circulatory problems with blood clots in her legs. She
was sitting around too much, you know, not watching her weight,
not getting the exercise she need, not eating right, and
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she developed the problem. Her doctor put her on a
drug called Eloquist. She had horrendously bad side effects. She
calls her little brother that would be me, and says,
what do I do? And I sent her vascular defense
by sun nutrition over at sunnutrition dot Com now the
inventor of this particular subblement. He too had a circulatory problem.
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He went on another drug, du jour zirelto had problems.
He too was able to help himself out with the
same formulation that he put together called vascular defense. We've
talked about a little bit on the show in the past,
but I've asked him to join us today because this
problem is very widespread. There are millions of people who
are struggling with circulatory problems right now, and the only
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game in town that their doctors are making them aware
of are drugs which have a long list of potential
ad for side effects.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Now I want to insert this.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You are not to stop any of the drugs for
your circulatory problems based on this interview, without direction, without consultation,
without supervision of a medical professional, pharmacist or your doctor
or a functional medicine doctor.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You shouldn't do that. It's dangerous.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So you can, however, start on this just like my
sister did. She did it on her own. She said,
I don't like the side effects, this.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Is killing me, so send that.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
She started on the vascular defense and she was able
to get off the eloquists, and now she's just fine.
Her circulation has never been better, and you can too,
whetherver circulatory problem you're having. All right, Nick, back to
our conversation. I'm going to have you pick it up
with how do we get people to better understand that
there are natural things? Because all I think a lot
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of consumers might say, oh, this is too good to
be true. If it were true, my doctor would be
telling me about it for sure. And then I'm going
to let you pick it up from their Nick.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Well, going back to doctor, my uncle was a doctor.
My uncle was a doctor. He didn't study nutrition. I
used to quiz him, and they don't study nutrition. See,
that's why I took a different pass. I think nature heals.
Let food be thy, medicine, medicine be you know, same principle.
But I believe this is if people that want to
take this route, going a natural approach, if this makes
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much more sense to me, Like you say, consult, but
I recommend somebody such as yourself that knows nutrition, how
the body works. And that's why this formula I made
is ten years in the making, experimenting on myself. Doctors
don't do that. I'm a major researcher, but then I
experiment on myself what works. So this is this formula
is ten years in the making, experimenting with all the
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different enzymes and the nitric oxide releasers, putting the garlic.
Each ingredient in here has a specific purpose and it
covers a lot of area. Even anti aging. What do
I mean by anti aging? Your body built star tissue,
it's excess fiber. We call it scar tissue. It's really
gens fibrous tissue. You want to break that up. And
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the magic of this formula is the enzymes is like
a pac man eating that stuff away. And then when
you have the nitric oxide releasers opening everything up. I
call it the clean and flow system. You're opening everything up,
and then the pac man, which are the enzymes the
most studied over fifty years. We have fifty years of research,
peer reviewed evidence. If you go into Asia and Germany,
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that's where they really use a lot of this for
scar tissue. But this is the pac man eating everything up.
And then the arteries are all opened up with the
blood flow. You want to get the blood flowing and
you want to be eating this fibrous material up. That's
the magic when you come bind both, that's when you
get the results.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So well, all right, so I want people to understand
what this is about, folks. It's sort of like at
a fire. You've got to fire, raging fire, and the
fireman's going to show up there. The fireman's going to
show up there to try to put that fire out.
And the human body, when it's injured, when there's inflammation
in a particular area, the body is going to shift
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gears and try to put fibrous tissue in that area
to limit or mitigate the damage. That's what he's talking about.
With inflammation. The body then tries to seal it off
with fibrous tissue and cholesterol and soap cells and calcium
it brings it to try to shut it down. But unfortunately,
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that same problem will clog that area up and create
problems as it's trying to remedy on its own. And
that is where these problems come in. And you don't
have to be aged to have circulatory problems. I mean,
think about these young athletes like Serena Williams who had
a blood clot just from playing tennis and traumatizing yourself.
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So you could be young, you can be old, the
circulatory problems happen, and you should have an awareness that
your body would like to help repair itself if it
could just get the raw materials in to help move
through that particular issue in a natural way. And that's
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where vascular defense, the nutritional supplement from sun Nutrition comes in. Now,
if you want to find out more about it, because
I know people are going to be in and out
of this conversation today, you can go over to their
website at Sunnutrition dot com, sun nutrition all one word,
Sunnutrition dot com and look for vascular defense. Learn more
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about it and what it does.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
The stuff's amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
It has helped so many people and a lot of
people will be helped in the future Gular Defence, sun Nutrition.
We'll be right back on Doctor Bob Martin, the.
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person who has been studying nutrition for decades. He is
a formulator of nutstutical products. He is the inventor of
coinventor of well basically bringing plant based protein into the marketplace,
which is an amazing feat in and of itself, almost
an icon in the industry. He's now come out with
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another gem, another nuttutical gem called Vascular Defense by sun
Nutrition over at sunnutrition dot com. Something that will help
people with circulatory issues. We're talking about everything from you know,
blood clots to vericos veins to deep vein thrombosis.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And again I'm gonna throw this in here. You're not to.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Believe that we're trying to tell you to stop taking
drug therapy. No, no, no, you can only do that
if you have somebody supervising you, like a pharmacist or
a doctor, or if you want to do it like
my sister did, or Nick did on your own, slowly
but surely and then adding in the vascular defense, my son,
you can do that if you choose to, that's your choice.
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But I want you to know that this is something
that is revolutionizing the area of circulatory issues and so Nick,
are there any potential adverse side effects of taking vascular
defense besides somebody just getting better?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
You get better because there's like like I said, they've
been using this in Asia and Europe for years, and
there's no studies showing only benefits. So yeah, like I said,
but be careful with it and experiment. But I say, no,
there's it'll only clean house. You'll clean house and get
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all the debris out. So there's a long history of
the systemic enzymes and doing in a natural way.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So what consumers expect, Nick, if they start on vascular defense,
do they feel like they see their warming in their
lower extremities, they may have coldness in their feet or hands,
or do they go to Is it going to be
an overnight thing or does it take time?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I mean explain that.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I'm glad you said that. There's so much stuff on
the internet and on Facebook. Your body clean arteries in
seven days, I mean it's crazy. Yeah, your body take
your body didn't happen overnight. This is years of accumulation
of debris. It's going to take. But I say give
it a good ninety to one hundred and twenty days.
You're going to see magnificent results on respiratory conditions, even
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spider veins. There's so many things. High blood pressure. Usually
in two weeks you can lower the high blood pressure
to really nice levels. But really the digging in getting
that fibrous tissue out of there. That takes time. It
gets better as you go, and that's how the body works.
It doesn't happen in a week. I see these crazy
claims seven days and your arteries are clean. That's a
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load of crap in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So it is, it is.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And not only is that a load of that, but
it also the stuff they're using for it is a
load too. And people are just being separated by their money,
and that's that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And I see it. I'm glad you bring it up
because people are getting him with it.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
All a real problem with that. You know, his body
didn't happen overnight. It's going to take time. Your wants
to heal. You build a whole new bloodstream ivery ninety days,
whole new bone, marrow, everything after this. If it's what
you put in, you put in your body will treat
you right. And I really I'd like to even do
a challenge maybe, doctor, if you want to talk about that,
we can give the listeners a challenge if they like
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to try it. I like to see results, and I
think I'm the only company that will put my money
or my product where my mouth is that this stuff works.
So maybe we can do that on another show, or
maybe you can talk about a challenge for the people
to really start cleaning house up and doing it the
right way.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
All right, so let's do that, Yeah, on another show.
You and I will plan this and folks, it'll be
like this. This give you a little hint of it. Well,
you have your doctor draw a particular blood test. Go
into the lab and do a blood test, and then
we'll do a post blood test after taking vascular defense
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by Sunnutrition over at sunnutrition dot com. For like saying
maybe ninety or one hundred and twenty days, and then
go back to your doctor's office and look at that
particular blood test again which shows how thick and gnarly
and risky your bloodstream is and there's inflammation, and see
and compare the number to that and see how much
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better it is after ninety or one hundred and twenty days.
We'll do that on the next show with you, Nick,
if you'll come back on the program also, Nick, stand
by because when we come back, I want to briefly
talk about the very first segment we did on the
show today was revealing that so many people are being
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hurt by ibuprofen, even at low dose, and I want
to talk about how this may relate to them.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Stand bye, I'm doctor Bob Martin. What's wrong with Ben?
Speaker 3 (37:06):
What's wrong with Ben?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
What's wrong?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Within concudent as.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's time to get the tea.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well, you're tuned into the largest radio health talk.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Show in America.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
It's far none and in large part it's thanks to you,
ladies and gentlemen and tuning into the show on a
regular basis and telling other people to do the same thing.
I mean, you probably have people in your life who
may be suffering with or challenged by circulatory problems or
inflammation or some other health related problem, and they just
don't know where to turn or what to do.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, do invite them to the show.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
The best way to do it is to jot down
the calls of the radio station you're listening to, whether
it's an AIM or FM station, the frequency on the dial,
and then right down the time of the day and
they it airs on, and just tell.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Them they'll thank you for it.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
All right, if you're just tuning in, We've got a
special guest with us, Nick Stern, talking about our segment
with him was about circulatory problems and how vascular defense
helps in that process for the body to try to
heal itself without clogging itself up too much with these
fibrous tissues which are running to the sight of fire
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inside the body, inflammation inside the body, and how using
systemic proteolytic enzymes help people solve it, just like my sister,
just like Nick, and just like a lot of other people.
So if you're so inclined, you can check it out
over It's sunnutrition dot com. That's where you find vascular
defense sunnutrition dot com. Now this seem issue and I
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know at the risk of something like this is like
a cure all it's not. Nothing is a panacea, but
it's inflammation. The first segment of the program, I started
off talking about how taking ibuprofen at the normal doses,
as they tell you, can cause anything from heart failure
to stomach ulcers, to kidney failure to liver failure. Nick,
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I don't know you didn't get a chance to hear that,
but I was on talking about how doctors are finally
speaking out about this, and now of course as a
result of that, people are going wait a minute, I've
been taking this drug for a long time. I've got arthritis,
I've got joint pain, I've got back pain.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
What do I do?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I don't want to just stop the drug. Is there
anything out there that can help me? And I think
that leads right into this same conversation.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Does it not?
Speaker 5 (39:30):
In an extern it does. Inflammation starts everything. It starts
to cascade of events. I call it. Everything leads through
inflammation and then it just everything goes from there. Speaking
of inflammation, they use systemic enzymes. The Russian Olympic team
back in Germany, they found out taking these anti inflammatory
drugs they work. Systemic enzymes worked much better. Thessian, the
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Russian Olympic team, we're using these. That's from studies. So
it's one of the best things for inflammation is is
high doses of systemic enzymes. Then you combine them with
the other ingredients I have here so to cool down inflammation.
That's that's what we're talking about here, and for blood flow.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So I don't know, well, folks, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know, when you have an injury, the body wants
to shut you down.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
You need to yield to that.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
You need to rest, you need to maybe apply ice
on the area for the first maybe several days and
give it an opportunity to heal. But you also need
to recover with all that fiber tissue in there and
that inflammation. This and the vascular Defense formulation can help
you do that. For more information, go to sunnutrition dot com,
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sunnutrition dot com for Vascular Defense. Nick Stearn, thank you
so much for joining us today. Ladies and gentlemen, stand by.
We'll be right back. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob
Martin's show,