March 17, 2025 • 40 mins
With all the hysteria and fearmongering about measles that’s sweeping mainstream media headlines of late, one might assume that children everywhere are dropping dead from this chickenpox like viral infection. But according to official data from U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Quasi Prevention (CDQP) only two people has died from measles in more than 15 years. However, at least 100 people have died during the same period because of getting the MMR vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubella, which is supposed to protect against measles.
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Into the show today.
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We've got a special guest.
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Coming up a little bit later in the hour to
talk about a very important topic related to how to
manage cholesterol drug free and not allow cholesterol lowering drugs
to sabotage your overall health, which they can do, so
stand by for that. But we begin this hour talking
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about the hysteria and fear mongering related to measles. It
seems like the topic is sweeping the mainstream media headlines
these days, and when you read it, when you see
it for yourself, one might assume that children everywhere are
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dropping in the streets from this chicken pox like viral infection, which,
by the way, I had growing up.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You may have had it growing up.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
All of my children, all of my six children, had measles,
none of whom are vaccinated.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They all got breast fed.
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Therefore they were vaccinated automatically, and they all got measles
growing up, and they probably got it from their vaccinated
friends down the street, you know, the pediatricians' children, which
we did have in our block, and they acquired naturally
acquired immunity. Now there is no question there are children
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who are suffering with comorbidities, who have some immunological problem
or some other health related challenge that measles would not
be a good thing to come their way, or an
elderly person who has a compromised immune system that would
not be a good thing to come their way. But
according to official data from the US Centers or Disease
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Control and Quasi Prevention, only two people two persons have
died while being infected with measles over the last fifteen
years or so. An unvaccinated recently, you heard about this
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on the news in.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Texas, South Texas.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
An unvaccinated Mennonite child, a little girl unfortunately lost her
life with complication of some sort. We still don't know
exactly what it is because they're holding it back as usual.
And an unvaccinated person in New Mexico again, same thing,
holding the information back. We don't know what their status was,
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We don't know anything. On the other hand, it is
an undeniable fact now two people, Folks keep that in mind.
Two people over the last fifteen years dying from measles.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Maybe, but it's.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
An undeniable fact that at least one hundred people have
died as a consequence of receiving the MMR, the measles
mumps rebella vaccine for measles MOMPS and rebella, which we've
all been told by the government's health authorities and doctors
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is supposed to protect from measles. So you have one
hundred people dying in response to an adverse reaction to
getting a MMR measles mumps rebella vaccine, and you have
two people tragically speaking, dying. We don't know the details
yet from supposedly not having a measles vaccine, and is
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now obvious to me and everyone perhaps who's actually paying
attention the MMR vaccine maybe far more dangerous than measles itself.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's now some.
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Experts believe that now you're gonna have to, you know,
do your research and find out what the truth is
for you. Now we're here on this radio show. We
don't encourage people to have or not have any vaccine whatsoever,
whether it's an MMR, whether it's a COVID vaccine. It's
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up to you, and it should not be mandated. Should
not be mandating you. Hear some parents saying, well, I
don't want my kids around an unvaccinated child, because if
my child's been vaccinated, that makes no sense to me.
If your child is vaccinated for MMR, measles, mumps, and
rebella and it works, why would you be fearing an
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unvaccinated child coming near your child since your child has
vaccinated in your one hundred percent behind that belief system
makes no sense. But the mandation of vaccines a whole
other ballgame. Forced into doing something someone does not want
to do and forced into doing something against their will,
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Now that's where I draw the line. That's also where,
by the way, Robert F. Kennedy Junior draws the line.
Now the person who's ahead of the Health and Human Services,
and so many of you understand this because you too
have had measles or your children have had measles. Back
in twenty fourteen, the CDC director for the National Center
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for Immanization and Respiratory Diseases told the Associated Press that
there hasn't been a measles associated death since two thousand
and three, and this claim was more recently confirmed by
the CDC Division of Viral Diseases, which again reiterated in
an email that there have been no measles associated deaths
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in the US since two thousand and three. Yet here
we are again fear mongering and worrying about this.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
The news gets a hold of it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The main lamestream media headlines. They want to shock in
awe you and the big pharmacy companies and the medical
profession in general.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
It's their cash cow.
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It's the golden goose that lays the egg.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
If they can get you tripping back.
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And forth, pack and forth, back and forth, other businesses
will happen, and that business will continue, and that's what
they're going to make sure occurs. It's important also to
keep in mind that even those very few deaths, and
they're tragic enough, reported in two thousand and three in
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prior may not have actually been caused by measles itself,
as the CDC merely tracks deaths that coincide with measles infection,
much like the CDC as well as the US Food
and Drug Administration do with the data targeting let's say,
raw milk. Well, the weekly CDC Morbidity Immortality weekly reports
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since the date have not revealed any measles deaths either.
According to Brian Schilhavey, an editor of Health Impact News,
about supporting the CDC, data showing that measles is basically
harmless and no more serious than the common cold.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
His view.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Now, my immunology teacher. When I went through college to
become a doctor, my immunology teacher taught us that measles
mortality or measles death rates had already declined to almost
nothing or nil or nada before, even before the vaccine
industry introduced the measles vaccine in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And you can see this on charts. It's available.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Of course, the big farmer doesn't want you to see it.
Your doctor may not want you to see it. That
measles is already almost snuffed out by natural immunity prior
to the vaccine ever being introduced.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Check it out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
In fact, measles may actually be a safer disease than
the common cold, as illustrated by data showing that mortality
caused by measles is extremely uncommon, especially in an error
of proper sanitation and hygiene, which is really important that
changed the tide of these diseases. Included is the scientific
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data is how measles mortality or death rates have reached
almost zero by about nineteen fifty, more than a decade
before the first measles vaccine was even introduced. In other words,
measles vaccines are pretty much worthless, some experts believe, as
well as the fact that measles truly is no big
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deal as a disease. Once a person recovers from it
naturally confers them permanent, lifelong immunity to measles, which cannot
be said for measles vaccine and by the way, which
only provide temporary and incomplete immunity at best. And that's
why they're more susceptible to measles as they get older
as adults. So you make the call, but do your
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own due diligence. Make sure your immune system strong. You're
taking your antioxidants, vitamins, A, vitamin C, zinc, getting plenty
of rest, staying hydrated. All of that and your immune
system will work optimally.
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All right, Our.
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All right, let's turn our attention to a very busy topic,
a very common topic that is dealt with in doctors'
offices every day by the millions, tens of millions, and
it has to do with the topic of cholesterol.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
If you or anyone.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know has issues or believe you may have issues
with cholesterol, this is going to be a topic for
you because there's a lot of disinformation, misinformation.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Going on, and we want to try to help you out.
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Want to address your cholesterol issue drug free, how to
manage cholesterol drug free, And so we invited a special
guest to join us. His name is Larry Logsden. Back
by popular demand. Larry Logsden is a functional food researcher
specializing in the medicinal properties and benefits of exotic fruits.
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Larry founded Tahiti Trader non Nejewics Company in nineteen ninety eight.
I invited Larry to be a guest on today's program
to discuss the topic of cholesterol, cholesterol management, what can
be done about high cholesterol and are these statin drugs,
these cholesterol lowering drugs, are they really necessary for every
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single person who receives a prescription from their doctors. And
with that, let me welcome back to the program Larry Logson.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Good dight to you, Larry, Hey, good morning doctor Bob,
how you doing here this lovely morning.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I'm doing fantastic. I hope you are too.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Thank you for agreeing to come back on the program
to talk about Well, this is a topic that I
think a lot of people have been waiting for. Frankly, Larry,
it's one that I get questions on the Doctor Bob
Martin show caller hotline all the time, people asking, Look,
I just don't want to be on these cholesterol alluring drugs,
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the statins. The day that I started them, I started
to feel ill, I don't feel right. I'm concerned about
is there anything you can do to helped me out?
And then you and I started talking about the subject,
and you shared with me a remarkable story of John
Sheehan's healing journey after experiencing a heart attack. John's doctor
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placed him on heavy dosages of statin drugs cluster loring
drugs shortly after his heart attack, and then, unfortunately, he
like many others, his body shut down and he started
having all these complications, not because of the heart attack,
but because of the drugs, the drug in the statin
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category that his doctor had prescribed. And so this is
an important topic because millions of Americans.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are taking these drugs.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Seven over seventeen million people in the United States maybe
taking on a daily basis cholesterol or statin drugs, cluster
luring drugs or statin. So this is a very important
topic because people, I believe, Larry, need to have a
balanced way of weighing up the benefits versus the risk.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now, on this.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Radio show, we don't tell people to not take drugs
or to take drugs. That's a decision they will have
to make in conjunction with maybe their pharmacist or their doctor,
or performing their own due diligence. We're gonna let them
make the decision, but we're going to provide here on
this radio show, Larry, some information they may not otherwise
have in order to make that decision. So let's begin there,
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if we can, Sir, tell us just a little bit,
and then a little bit later in the show. Today,
I'm going to play to the audience an audiotape that
you conducted with an interview of this John she Hen's
remarkable story.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
We'll get to that shortly, but just.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Give kind of an overview, if you will, Larry, about
John she Hen's story and these cholesterol lowering drugs in general.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Well, doctor bomb. John Sheehn is probably like a lot
of people that's in the audience today. He's in his
early fifties at the moment, and he actually is a
is an ex professional hockey player. The guy is no mistake.
He's he's a buff dude. And he was playing out
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there on the ice one day and all of a sudden,
you know, he got this big old pain in his
heart and all that haul him off to the hospital
and the doctors said, well, we're going to have to
give you some of this stuff now, and and and
they start pumping full of the stats and drugs and
a few other things too, I'm sure. And it wasn't
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very long. I think he said it was three weeks
into that drug and his body shut down, just completely quit,
and he didn't know what to do. He suddenly he
became a diabetic overnight. I mean, he was a type
one diabetic when they brought him into the hospital three
weeks after he had just started on the status and
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he had all kinds of other problems that stemmed from
the inflammation that was riddling of the body, and he
was in big trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I'm just curious now, Larry you kind of spiked my
attention here. I wonder if he had a COVID shot
and he was actually suffering from an adverse reaction. I mean,
think about a professional athlete that does that kind of
aerobic activity every single week and he has a heart attack.
And we're seeing this in the soccer field and football
players are having and usually you can trace it back
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to taking a COVID shot where this mRNA hooks onto
their heart tissue and then when they get the spike
of cortisol from exercise or sleeping even they go down.
I wonder, well, you can go back and circle back
on that one, Larry, and let me know later, won't you.
Now you've got me really curious about And you're right.
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People think, well, here's an athlete, a guy who is
is strong, he's young, healthy, Why is he having cholesterol issues?
And it sounds like he wasn't having cholesterol issues before
or he didn't know about it, and then he got
caught off guard. And I wonder if the whole thing's
related to the inflammation secondary to taking the clot shot
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or the COVID. Well, I guess you'll have to get
back with me on that one, Larry. I don't want
to put you on the spot.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
You may not have asked him, no.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Worry, but I am curious about these statin drugs and
how they impacted John Sheehan, this pro hockey player. And
I know a lot of our listeners right now, Larry
are thinking, oh my gosh, wait a minute, I'm on
stanton drugs, or I have an uncle or an aunt,
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or a father or brother, sister.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Let me learn more about this. We're going to take
a break.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Here, Larry and come back, and I want to ask
you about some of the side effects, weighing the benefits
of the risk of these drugs. Stand by you waiting
on a night straight?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
How you eating for the perfect night?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
How are you waiting to the.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Time is night? Why do you want to learn to
deal with? Did you want to take the wheel steam?
Don't you be the man? Why? Wait? What are you
in faul?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin's show, and for
that we thank you so very much, appreciate you. The
topic that we're discussing now is cholesterol. How to manage
cholesterol drug free? So many millions of people are taking
cholesterol alluring drugs and many health experts are finding out
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and learning that cholester the cholesterol alluring drug craze, if
you will, is can be fraudulent because it's really not
cholesterol problem, it's inflammation, and you don't address the inflammation,
you don't address the problem. We're here with a special guest.
His name is Larry Logsden. He's a functional food researcher
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an author, and I asked him to join us on
the show to discuss this topic. So Larry, welcome back
and thank you for joining me today on the show.
I want to ask you for the on behead of
the listeners, please describe what are Staton drugs in what
do they do.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Well?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
The stabbing drugs are designed to block the cholesterol of
being produced in the liver, and of course the liver
is producing cholesterol because it thinks that there's some kind
of problem because there's inflammation and that's triggered the release
of all this stuff and there's the real problem. What
they really need to do is go after what's causing
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the inflammation. Oh but many many doctors today don't know
how to do that. They just put a band aid
on it with with the statins.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well cholesterol, you know, it's human beings couldn't live without cholesterol.
It's it part of every cell in our body. It
helps with hormones, it helps with our nerve sheaths, the
insulation around just everything.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
We have to have it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And we make about what seventy eighty percent of our
own cholesterol. No matter what we eat, it doesn't matter.
But when that cholesterol goes bad, yeah, it means something.
Red flags should go up. And I think a lot
of people are being tricked into believing that the you know,
they have some sort of a statin deficiency in their diet,
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if you will, and their doctors have convinced them of it,
and they scare them into it. And we're here not
to tell you not to take statins, ladies and gentlemen,
or to take them. That's a decision you'll have to make.
But often people are not educated about this. They don't
know there may be other ways to manage this. They
may not know why their body is making excessive lester.
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They may not know about the inflammation smoking gun, which
is really really at the heart of high.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Cholesterol to begin with.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I'm sure there's genetic people that are there too,
but that's one of the story. In fact, my statistics
tell me that about fifty percent of people who have
heart attacks have perfectly normal cholesterol, which again gets us
back to the real cause, inflammation. Larry, can you describe
for the listeners what are some of the potential adverse
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side effects of taking a cholesterol lowering drug or a
staton drug.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Well, it can range. That could be many, many side effects.
The one that most people will see right away with
the neurological issues where they feel pain which they never
used to feel, mulcle pains and things like that. Most
people also see that they have problems with blood sugar,
just an immediate thing. For some reason, they start finding
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themselves having to deal with high blood sugar sometimes even diabetes,
which is a big deal. I mean, it just goes
on and on and on, and most of the doctors
don't know what to do about it. And that's the
real problem that I see.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
No, John, No, that's not true. Most doctors do know
what to do, and that is prescribe another drug. Put
another drug on the Martie.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Oh, of course, of course, another drug please. But the
reality is that there is something underlying which is the
stimulus for there to be an inflammation problem, and we
should go find it with lighting the fire.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, I've read so many long lists, from memory problems
where it impacts negative the glia of the brain, to
muscle damage, to deliver damage. I mean the list is
to setting into motion diabetes. And when you think about
the population, fifty percent almost seventy five percent of either
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diabetic or pre diabetic, and that just tips them right
over a lot of them, which is really sad. Who
is at risk of developing these statin side effects? As
there some type of way to know that, more males,
more females, young, old, what do.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
We have Well, they say that females are more likely
and those who have low body mass are also more likely,
but anymore, Doc, it's hard to tell because almost everyone
who they put on the statins comes up with a
handful of negative side effects.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
The sad part of this from my perspective, is that
there's no question these cholesterol lowering drugs will lower someone's cholesterol.
They do do that, But to me, that's kind of
like painting over termites and frosting on burnt cake. It
tells me that the underlying issue that generated the body's
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desire to remedy itself or mend itself by cranking up
excess cholesterol. Is to go and send out a fat
slick to the inflammatory tissue to sort of like paint
over it with the hope that somehow it can douse
the fire of inflammation, when in fact, then it's measured
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in the blood as being high cholesterol being the problem,
which it is not, and the only remedy that is
set forth or recommended to the patient is a drug
that interferes with the body's innate or natural process of
making cholesterol, so it supplies the brain tissue, the nerve tissue,
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and all.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Cells of the body.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
This all important cholesterol molecule that human beings could not
live with out we have to have it, but obviously
its best to be in the proper range, right Larry.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I think, so, you know, I kind of remind me
have a little story about the lady who had a
house fire. House caught on fire, and so along comes
the fireman and it goes to put out the fire,
and then she says, oh, no, we have a water problem.
We can't use water. He goes, well, you're gonna lose
your house. So this is the same thing with cholesterol.
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Cholesterol is being released as a result of the fire.
So let's look as you what causes the fire, and
let's take care of it. And then we won't need
much water in this case because we've taken care of it.
How do you do that, Well, usually you turn off
the fuel that fuels the fire, and that's oftentimes in
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this case here, you need fuel oxygen in the spark
to get it going. Cut off one of those and
you're going to find the fire come to an end. Well,
that means you have to do a little investigation. And
in this case here, if doctors were to do that,
then they really found the problem. And it usually has
nothing to do with drugs, has something to do with
diet or some other kind of melody.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, definitely to do with lifestyle or something they may
be deficient in or some other imbalance in some other
body chemistry. Let's say their homocysteine may be high, which
everybody with cholesterol issues needs to get checked. Maybe the
doctor should be checking on an all important number, a
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blood test called cardiosensitive C reactive protein. I mean, there's
so many things that we would do, those of us
who understand functional medicine, rather than simply looking at a
down and dirty cholesterol panel, which every doctor does, but
I think getting into the more sophisticated you know, the
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apple lipoprotein B and small particle cholesterol. Those are things
that in homocysteine and C reactive protein all should be
checked out before making a recommendation.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
For statin drugs.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
All right, we're going to return to this conversation with
our special guests Larry Logsden. I want to get to
the solution of this problem safely, naturally.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'm doctor Bob Martin.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
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Speaker 3 (30:22):
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Speaker 2 (30:24):
All right, you're tuned into the Doctor Bob Bartson Show.
Welcome and welcome back to the program. We're with our
special guest Larry Logsdon, who is a functional food researcher
and author. We're on the topic of cholesterol and cholesterol
lowering drugs Staton drugs. We initially started talking about the
amazing story of a pro hockey player who had a
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heart attack and his doctor put him on heavy doses
of statin or cholesterol lowdering drugs, and shortly thereafter his
body shut down big time. Larry interviewed John Sheehan and
I wanted to before we go back to Larry, I
want to play that interview for you. Now Here is
Larry Logsden interviewing pro hockey player John Sheehan.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Go Hi, I'm Larry logsdone and I'm here to let
you know we've got a great show going on today.
We have John Sheehan as a guest today to tell
us a little bit all about his experience using nony
juice with his diabetes and a few other problems that
he's got.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Let's walk home.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
John, here to the show. Hey, John, can you tell
me how did you hear about nony jewice?
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Where did all that start?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
So, Frankie Boyer. When I met her, I had a
lot of diseases in what had happened real quick twenty eighteen,
I took a hot attack. They put me on lipatoa
eighty milligrams a day, right out of the gate. Four
months later, my body's shut down, complete shutdown. I ended
up with diabetes type one, necrotizing myopathy, immune disease which
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is where my information is eating my muscles, and you
know what, and some other diseases too, right, and then
the side effects of the diseases that that caused me
so I met Frankie, I think about almost three years ago.
She had naughty juice. She was drinking naughty juice and
she says, you're gonna try it, and you know, I
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was like, nah, I was not into that sort of thing, right,
So I finally tried it, and it took a little bit.
And I'll tell you, the biggest bang for my buck
out of the naughty juice is keeping my blood sugar
levels down. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
My insulin I was, you.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Know, with the type of diabetes I have, I have
to take insulin before I eat and then long ACKed,
long lasting insulin, but the blood sugar is always spiking.
The naughty juice leveled it off and I actually am
taking much less insulin nowadays, and I attributed that to
the naanny juice.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
She started using it a.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
And you found that you're blood sugar is better.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
And what are other kinds of issues that we're you're
dealing with?
Speaker 9 (33:04):
And how are they so de necrotizing? Myopathy it's a
very rare fatal disease. The average life span once you
get it is five years. I'm going on seven years now.
My muscles have been eaten away, but they still have,
they still have strength to them. And as of right now,
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they check my CPK levels. That's how they determine if
the inflammation is eating away at my muscles. So my
CPKA levels were always high. I started taking the Naughty juice.
My CPK levels every blood test I get, which is
every three months, is either in range are well below
the range that it should be, which is good. Below
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the range is good.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
So that's you.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Know, I have to attribute again. I have to attribute
it to the Nanny Juice.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, there you have it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
An interview between our special guest Lary Logs and from
T Trader and John Sheehan, a pro hockey player. I
mean that's scary when you hear that. I mean, here
he is on the ice playing. He has heart attack
secondary to who knows, maybe a COVID shot or some
inflammatory process. His doctor places him on statin drugs. The
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statin drugs cause his body to shut down and develop
type one diabetes, which is the worst type of diabetes
where the beta cells in the panker is quit making insulin,
which is unbelievable, and then he developing a neckritizing disease
where muscle tissues being destroyed and a whole long list
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of other things which we don't have time to get into,
which is unbelievable. What a story, Larry, How this gentleman
found his way to a natural remedy, a drug free remedy,
to help his blood.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Sugar situation get under control.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And that's the hardest one to type one is the
hardest one to develop because obviously he's got to take
a certain amount of insulin, but he's taking less of it.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Why is that? Now?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
People are, of course wondering, well, how the heck did
this kind of fruit juice help with this problem? So, Larry,
I'm gonna let you take it from there.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Well, doctor bomb, nony juice is amazing healing properties. First
of all, I mean with nony juice by itself, studies
have been conclusive showing that non y juice will by
itself help you kitch your cholesterol in order don't have
to worry about it. It'll bring it down several points
and that's a big deal. Just drink and announce a
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day we'll see it come down twenty points, maybe more. So.
He's on the right track using it. What happened here
is he has had damage done to his pancreas and
his liver, and know he is helping to restore this
stuff because it's the amazing adapt helping the body do
what it likes to do best, heal itself up. Now
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what's going on here is the wound healing is what's
going on. And now the body is producing more inflanent
on its own again, and give it time and it
will likely completely recover. But of course we don't know
that just yet because he took a real hit, a real,
real hard hit. But the main thing is nony helps
control the cock two enzyme, which is what causes the inflammation.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, that's this.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
His story is so scary, folks. If you want to
find out for yourself, try to Heati Trader Nony Juice.
It is available at finer health food stores nationwide including GNC, Sprouts,
Farmers Markets, Whole Foods, Vitamin Shop. You can also go
to the website Tahiti Trader dot com for more information
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A little bit later in the program, I'm going to
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a COVID vaccine adverse reaction herself. She's a former Fox
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hosting The Megan Kelly Show. Wait you hear her story?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Our special guest this hour is with us. Now in
our finishing segment here, Larry Logsden is with us. He's
the founder owner of Tahiti Trader Nony Juice, and you
can find out more about Tahiti Trader by walking into
any fine health food store and asking for Tahiti Trader
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Noni it's there, And if you can't find it in
the store that you're shopping in, you can certainly go
to their website Tahitiitrader dot com. All one word Tahiti
Trader dot com or find health food stores like GNC, Sprouts,
Farmers' Markets, Whole Foods, Vitamins shop Now Larry. For those
people who are just tuning into the interview, they may
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not have heard the top of the interview with the
interview track that we played, the audio bit that we
played the John Sheehan remarkable story where his doctor placed
him on a STATN cluster learning drug and his body
shut down. This is not unusual. A lot of people
get these stating drug side effects.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
They don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
They go back to their doctors and say, well, Doc,
since I've been taking the side effects, my muscle's hurt,
I can't think straight. I want something different. No, no, no,
you have to stay on this drug. Would you rather
have a heart attack and a stroke? And so they
you know, that's what they're left with. Well, obviously it's
a it's a total package. They need to change their lifestyle.
They need to exercise regularly, they need to take nutrients
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obviously and learn about what nature has provided. And that's
Tahati Trader nony juice to help with the inflammatory process,
which is the smoking gun behind most elevations of cholesterol
in the first place, Larry, in the final minute that
we have left, just if you can sum it up
for those people who maybe just tuning in, sir.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Well, I would. I would say that what you have
to deal with here, folks, is drinking nony juice has
an amazing compound that help bring inflammation on to control
it naturally all by itself. It's a healing agent. It's
got astroholic acid, routing, nonicide and other important compounds more
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than one hundred and sixty unique compounds not found anywhere else,
and you'll feel better. You're going to notice the difference
in how things work in your body. If you have
health problems, they seem to just evaporate the thing. I
would suggest doctor Bob is try it out. We have
a very special offer for doctor Bob listeners on our website.
(40:32):
Get two bottles for a special price and our new
book Building an Amazing Immune System. I highly recommend it, folks,
help you get going on the right path.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Fronto excellent all right Tahiti Trader dot com.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Folks, Tahiti Trader dot com.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Check it out, Larry Logs and thank you so very
much for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
We'll be right back
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about the hysteria and fear mongering related to measles. It
seems like the topic is sweeping the mainstream media headlines
these days, and when you read it, when you see
it for yourself, one might assume that children everywhere are
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dropping in the streets from this chicken pox like viral infection, which,
by the way, I had growing up.
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You may have had it growing up.
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All of my children, all of my six children, had measles,
none of whom are vaccinated.
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They all got breast fed.
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Therefore they were vaccinated automatically, and they all got measles
growing up, and they probably got it from their vaccinated
friends down the street, you know, the pediatricians' children, which
we did have in our block, and they acquired naturally
acquired immunity. Now there is no question there are children
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who are suffering with comorbidities, who have some immunological problem
or some other health related challenge that measles would not
be a good thing to come their way, or an
elderly person who has a compromised immune system that would
not be a good thing to come their way. But
according to official data from the US Centers or Disease
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Control and Quasi Prevention, only two people two persons have
died while being infected with measles over the last fifteen
years or so. An unvaccinated recently, you heard about this
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on the news in.
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Texas, South Texas.
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An unvaccinated Mennonite child, a little girl unfortunately lost her
life with complication of some sort. We still don't know
exactly what it is because they're holding it back as usual.
And an unvaccinated person in New Mexico again, same thing,
holding the information back. We don't know what their status was,
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We don't know anything. On the other hand, it is
an undeniable fact now two people, Folks keep that in mind.
Two people over the last fifteen years dying from measles.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Maybe, but it's.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
An undeniable fact that at least one hundred people have
died as a consequence of receiving the MMR, the measles
mumps rebella vaccine for measles MOMPS and rebella, which we've
all been told by the government's health authorities and doctors
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is supposed to protect from measles. So you have one
hundred people dying in response to an adverse reaction to
getting a MMR measles mumps rebella vaccine, and you have
two people tragically speaking, dying. We don't know the details
yet from supposedly not having a measles vaccine, and is
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now obvious to me and everyone perhaps who's actually paying
attention the MMR vaccine maybe far more dangerous than measles itself.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's now some.
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Experts believe that now you're gonna have to, you know,
do your research and find out what the truth is
for you. Now we're here on this radio show. We
don't encourage people to have or not have any vaccine whatsoever,
whether it's an MMR, whether it's a COVID vaccine. It's
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up to you, and it should not be mandated. Should
not be mandating you. Hear some parents saying, well, I
don't want my kids around an unvaccinated child, because if
my child's been vaccinated, that makes no sense to me.
If your child is vaccinated for MMR, measles, mumps, and
rebella and it works, why would you be fearing an
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unvaccinated child coming near your child since your child has
vaccinated in your one hundred percent behind that belief system
makes no sense. But the mandation of vaccines a whole
other ballgame. Forced into doing something someone does not want
to do and forced into doing something against their will,
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Now that's where I draw the line. That's also where,
by the way, Robert F. Kennedy Junior draws the line.
Now the person who's ahead of the Health and Human Services,
and so many of you understand this because you too
have had measles or your children have had measles. Back
in twenty fourteen, the CDC director for the National Center
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for Immanization and Respiratory Diseases told the Associated Press that
there hasn't been a measles associated death since two thousand
and three, and this claim was more recently confirmed by
the CDC Division of Viral Diseases, which again reiterated in
an email that there have been no measles associated deaths
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in the US since two thousand and three. Yet here
we are again fear mongering and worrying about this.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
The news gets a hold of it.
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The main lamestream media headlines. They want to shock in
awe you and the big pharmacy companies and the medical
profession in general.
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It's their cash cow.
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It's the golden goose that lays the egg.
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If they can get you tripping back.
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And forth, pack and forth, back and forth, other businesses
will happen, and that business will continue, and that's what
they're going to make sure occurs. It's important also to
keep in mind that even those very few deaths, and
they're tragic enough, reported in two thousand and three in
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prior may not have actually been caused by measles itself,
as the CDC merely tracks deaths that coincide with measles infection,
much like the CDC as well as the US Food
and Drug Administration do with the data targeting let's say,
raw milk. Well, the weekly CDC Morbidity Immortality weekly reports
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since the date have not revealed any measles deaths either.
According to Brian Schilhavey, an editor of Health Impact News,
about supporting the CDC, data showing that measles is basically
harmless and no more serious than the common cold.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
His view.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Now, my immunology teacher. When I went through college to
become a doctor, my immunology teacher taught us that measles
mortality or measles death rates had already declined to almost
nothing or nil or nada before, even before the vaccine
industry introduced the measles vaccine in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And you can see this on charts. It's available.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Of course, the big farmer doesn't want you to see it.
Your doctor may not want you to see it. That
measles is already almost snuffed out by natural immunity prior
to the vaccine ever being introduced.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Check it out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
In fact, measles may actually be a safer disease than
the common cold, as illustrated by data showing that mortality
caused by measles is extremely uncommon, especially in an error
of proper sanitation and hygiene, which is really important that
changed the tide of these diseases. Included is the scientific
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data is how measles mortality or death rates have reached
almost zero by about nineteen fifty, more than a decade
before the first measles vaccine was even introduced. In other words,
measles vaccines are pretty much worthless, some experts believe, as
well as the fact that measles truly is no big
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deal as a disease. Once a person recovers from it
naturally confers them permanent, lifelong immunity to measles, which cannot
be said for measles vaccine and by the way, which
only provide temporary and incomplete immunity at best. And that's
why they're more susceptible to measles as they get older
as adults. So you make the call, but do your
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own due diligence. Make sure your immune system strong. You're
taking your antioxidants, vitamins, A, vitamin C, zinc, getting plenty
of rest, staying hydrated. All of that and your immune
system will work optimally.
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All right, Our.
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Special guest coming up, We're going to talk about cholesterol.
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All right, let's turn our attention to a very busy topic,
a very common topic that is dealt with in doctors'
offices every day by the millions, tens of millions, and
it has to do with the topic of cholesterol.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
If you or anyone.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know has issues or believe you may have issues
with cholesterol, this is going to be a topic for
you because there's a lot of disinformation, misinformation.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Going on, and we want to try to help you out.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Want to address your cholesterol issue drug free, how to
manage cholesterol drug free, And so we invited a special
guest to join us. His name is Larry Logsden. Back
by popular demand. Larry Logsden is a functional food researcher
specializing in the medicinal properties and benefits of exotic fruits.
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Larry founded Tahiti Trader non Nejewics Company in nineteen ninety eight.
I invited Larry to be a guest on today's program
to discuss the topic of cholesterol, cholesterol management, what can
be done about high cholesterol and are these statin drugs,
these cholesterol lowering drugs, are they really necessary for every
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single person who receives a prescription from their doctors. And
with that, let me welcome back to the program Larry Logson.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Good dight to you, Larry, Hey, good morning doctor Bob,
how you doing here this lovely morning.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I'm doing fantastic. I hope you are too.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Thank you for agreeing to come back on the program
to talk about Well, this is a topic that I
think a lot of people have been waiting for. Frankly, Larry,
it's one that I get questions on the Doctor Bob
Martin show caller hotline all the time, people asking, Look,
I just don't want to be on these cholesterol alluring drugs,
(15:50):
the statins. The day that I started them, I started
to feel ill, I don't feel right. I'm concerned about
is there anything you can do to helped me out?
And then you and I started talking about the subject,
and you shared with me a remarkable story of John
Sheehan's healing journey after experiencing a heart attack. John's doctor
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placed him on heavy dosages of statin drugs cluster loring
drugs shortly after his heart attack, and then, unfortunately, he
like many others, his body shut down and he started
having all these complications, not because of the heart attack,
but because of the drugs, the drug in the statin
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category that his doctor had prescribed. And so this is
an important topic because millions of Americans.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are taking these drugs.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Seven over seventeen million people in the United States maybe
taking on a daily basis cholesterol or statin drugs, cluster
luring drugs or statin. So this is a very important
topic because people, I believe, Larry, need to have a
balanced way of weighing up the benefits versus the risk.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now, on this.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Radio show, we don't tell people to not take drugs
or to take drugs. That's a decision they will have
to make in conjunction with maybe their pharmacist or their doctor,
or performing their own due diligence. We're gonna let them
make the decision, but we're going to provide here on
this radio show, Larry, some information they may not otherwise
have in order to make that decision. So let's begin there,
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if we can, Sir, tell us just a little bit,
and then a little bit later in the show. Today,
I'm going to play to the audience an audiotape that
you conducted with an interview of this John she Hen's
remarkable story.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
We'll get to that shortly, but just.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Give kind of an overview, if you will, Larry, about
John she Hen's story and these cholesterol lowering drugs in general.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Well, doctor bomb. John Sheehn is probably like a lot
of people that's in the audience today. He's in his
early fifties at the moment, and he actually is a
is an ex professional hockey player. The guy is no mistake.
He's he's a buff dude. And he was playing out
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there on the ice one day and all of a sudden,
you know, he got this big old pain in his
heart and all that haul him off to the hospital
and the doctors said, well, we're going to have to
give you some of this stuff now, and and and
they start pumping full of the stats and drugs and
a few other things too, I'm sure. And it wasn't
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very long. I think he said it was three weeks
into that drug and his body shut down, just completely quit,
and he didn't know what to do. He suddenly he
became a diabetic overnight. I mean, he was a type
one diabetic when they brought him into the hospital three
weeks after he had just started on the status and
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he had all kinds of other problems that stemmed from
the inflammation that was riddling of the body, and he
was in big trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I'm just curious now, Larry you kind of spiked my
attention here. I wonder if he had a COVID shot
and he was actually suffering from an adverse reaction. I mean,
think about a professional athlete that does that kind of
aerobic activity every single week and he has a heart attack.
And we're seeing this in the soccer field and football
players are having and usually you can trace it back
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to taking a COVID shot where this mRNA hooks onto
their heart tissue and then when they get the spike
of cortisol from exercise or sleeping even they go down.
I wonder, well, you can go back and circle back
on that one, Larry, and let me know later, won't you.
Now you've got me really curious about And you're right.
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People think, well, here's an athlete, a guy who is
is strong, he's young, healthy, Why is he having cholesterol issues?
And it sounds like he wasn't having cholesterol issues before
or he didn't know about it, and then he got
caught off guard. And I wonder if the whole thing's
related to the inflammation secondary to taking the clot shot
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or the COVID. Well, I guess you'll have to get
back with me on that one, Larry. I don't want
to put you on the spot.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
You may not have asked him, no.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Worry, but I am curious about these statin drugs and
how they impacted John Sheehan, this pro hockey player. And
I know a lot of our listeners right now, Larry
are thinking, oh my gosh, wait a minute, I'm on
stanton drugs, or I have an uncle or an aunt,
(20:45):
or a father or brother, sister.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Let me learn more about this. We're going to take
a break.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Here, Larry and come back, and I want to ask
you about some of the side effects, weighing the benefits
of the risk of these drugs. Stand by you waiting
on a night straight?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
How you eating for the perfect night?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
How are you waiting to the.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Time is night? Why do you want to learn to
deal with? Did you want to take the wheel steam?
Don't you be the man? Why? Wait? What are you
in faul?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin's show, and for
that we thank you so very much, appreciate you. The
topic that we're discussing now is cholesterol. How to manage
cholesterol drug free? So many millions of people are taking
cholesterol alluring drugs and many health experts are finding out
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and learning that cholester the cholesterol alluring drug craze, if
you will, is can be fraudulent because it's really not
cholesterol problem, it's inflammation, and you don't address the inflammation,
you don't address the problem. We're here with a special guest.
His name is Larry Logsden. He's a functional food researcher
(22:14):
an author, and I asked him to join us on
the show to discuss this topic. So Larry, welcome back
and thank you for joining me today on the show.
I want to ask you for the on behead of
the listeners, please describe what are Staton drugs in what
do they do.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Well?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
The stabbing drugs are designed to block the cholesterol of
being produced in the liver, and of course the liver
is producing cholesterol because it thinks that there's some kind
of problem because there's inflammation and that's triggered the release
of all this stuff and there's the real problem. What
they really need to do is go after what's causing
(22:53):
the inflammation. Oh but many many doctors today don't know
how to do that. They just put a band aid
on it with with the statins.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well cholesterol, you know, it's human beings couldn't live without cholesterol.
It's it part of every cell in our body. It
helps with hormones, it helps with our nerve sheaths, the
insulation around just everything.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
We have to have it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And we make about what seventy eighty percent of our
own cholesterol. No matter what we eat, it doesn't matter.
But when that cholesterol goes bad, yeah, it means something.
Red flags should go up. And I think a lot
of people are being tricked into believing that the you know,
they have some sort of a statin deficiency in their diet,
(23:39):
if you will, and their doctors have convinced them of it,
and they scare them into it. And we're here not
to tell you not to take statins, ladies and gentlemen,
or to take them. That's a decision you'll have to make.
But often people are not educated about this. They don't
know there may be other ways to manage this. They
may not know why their body is making excessive lester.
(24:00):
They may not know about the inflammation smoking gun, which
is really really at the heart of high.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Cholesterol to begin with.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I'm sure there's genetic people that are there too,
but that's one of the story. In fact, my statistics
tell me that about fifty percent of people who have
heart attacks have perfectly normal cholesterol, which again gets us
back to the real cause, inflammation. Larry, can you describe
for the listeners what are some of the potential adverse
(24:31):
side effects of taking a cholesterol lowering drug or a
staton drug.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Well, it can range. That could be many, many side effects.
The one that most people will see right away with
the neurological issues where they feel pain which they never
used to feel, mulcle pains and things like that. Most
people also see that they have problems with blood sugar,
just an immediate thing. For some reason, they start finding
(24:57):
themselves having to deal with high blood sugar sometimes even diabetes,
which is a big deal. I mean, it just goes
on and on and on, and most of the doctors
don't know what to do about it. And that's the
real problem that I see.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
No, John, No, that's not true. Most doctors do know
what to do, and that is prescribe another drug. Put
another drug on the Martie.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Oh, of course, of course, another drug please. But the
reality is that there is something underlying which is the
stimulus for there to be an inflammation problem, and we
should go find it with lighting the fire.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, I've read so many long lists, from memory problems
where it impacts negative the glia of the brain, to
muscle damage, to deliver damage. I mean the list is
to setting into motion diabetes. And when you think about
the population, fifty percent almost seventy five percent of either
(25:54):
diabetic or pre diabetic, and that just tips them right
over a lot of them, which is really sad. Who
is at risk of developing these statin side effects? As
there some type of way to know that, more males,
more females, young, old, what do.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
We have Well, they say that females are more likely
and those who have low body mass are also more likely,
but anymore, Doc, it's hard to tell because almost everyone
who they put on the statins comes up with a
handful of negative side effects.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
The sad part of this from my perspective, is that
there's no question these cholesterol lowering drugs will lower someone's cholesterol.
They do do that, But to me, that's kind of
like painting over termites and frosting on burnt cake. It
tells me that the underlying issue that generated the body's
(26:55):
desire to remedy itself or mend itself by cranking up
excess cholesterol. Is to go and send out a fat
slick to the inflammatory tissue to sort of like paint
over it with the hope that somehow it can douse
the fire of inflammation, when in fact, then it's measured
(27:16):
in the blood as being high cholesterol being the problem,
which it is not, and the only remedy that is
set forth or recommended to the patient is a drug
that interferes with the body's innate or natural process of
making cholesterol, so it supplies the brain tissue, the nerve tissue,
(27:37):
and all.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Cells of the body.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
This all important cholesterol molecule that human beings could not
live with out we have to have it, but obviously
its best to be in the proper range, right Larry.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I think, so, you know, I kind of remind me
have a little story about the lady who had a
house fire. House caught on fire, and so along comes
the fireman and it goes to put out the fire,
and then she says, oh, no, we have a water problem.
We can't use water. He goes, well, you're gonna lose
your house. So this is the same thing with cholesterol.
(28:14):
Cholesterol is being released as a result of the fire.
So let's look as you what causes the fire, and
let's take care of it. And then we won't need
much water in this case because we've taken care of it.
How do you do that, Well, usually you turn off
the fuel that fuels the fire, and that's oftentimes in
(28:34):
this case here, you need fuel oxygen in the spark
to get it going. Cut off one of those and
you're going to find the fire come to an end. Well,
that means you have to do a little investigation. And
in this case here, if doctors were to do that,
then they really found the problem. And it usually has
nothing to do with drugs, has something to do with
diet or some other kind of melody.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, definitely to do with lifestyle or something they may
be deficient in or some other imbalance in some other
body chemistry. Let's say their homocysteine may be high, which
everybody with cholesterol issues needs to get checked. Maybe the
doctor should be checking on an all important number, a
(29:17):
blood test called cardiosensitive C reactive protein. I mean, there's
so many things that we would do, those of us
who understand functional medicine, rather than simply looking at a
down and dirty cholesterol panel, which every doctor does, but
I think getting into the more sophisticated you know, the
(29:39):
apple lipoprotein B and small particle cholesterol. Those are things
that in homocysteine and C reactive protein all should be
checked out before making a recommendation.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
For statin drugs.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
All right, we're going to return to this conversation with
our special guests Larry Logsden. I want to get to
the solution of this problem safely, naturally.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'm doctor Bob Martin.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
So good a bush of the number Simon sible.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
W Ever single.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
All right, you're tuned into the Doctor Bob Bartson Show.
Welcome and welcome back to the program. We're with our
special guest Larry Logsdon, who is a functional food researcher
and author. We're on the topic of cholesterol and cholesterol
lowering drugs Staton drugs. We initially started talking about the
amazing story of a pro hockey player who had a
(30:47):
heart attack and his doctor put him on heavy doses
of statin or cholesterol lowdering drugs, and shortly thereafter his
body shut down big time. Larry interviewed John Sheehan and
I wanted to before we go back to Larry, I
want to play that interview for you. Now Here is
Larry Logsden interviewing pro hockey player John Sheehan.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Go Hi, I'm Larry logsdone and I'm here to let
you know we've got a great show going on today.
We have John Sheehan as a guest today to tell
us a little bit all about his experience using nony
juice with his diabetes and a few other problems that
he's got.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Let's walk home.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
John, here to the show. Hey, John, can you tell
me how did you hear about nony jewice?
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Where did all that start?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
So, Frankie Boyer. When I met her, I had a
lot of diseases in what had happened real quick twenty eighteen,
I took a hot attack. They put me on lipatoa
eighty milligrams a day, right out of the gate. Four
months later, my body's shut down, complete shutdown. I ended
up with diabetes type one, necrotizing myopathy, immune disease which
(31:59):
is where my information is eating my muscles, and you
know what, and some other diseases too, right, and then
the side effects of the diseases that that caused me
so I met Frankie, I think about almost three years ago.
She had naughty juice. She was drinking naughty juice and
she says, you're gonna try it, and you know, I
(32:21):
was like, nah, I was not into that sort of thing, right,
So I finally tried it, and it took a little bit.
And I'll tell you, the biggest bang for my buck
out of the naughty juice is keeping my blood sugar
levels down. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
My insulin I was, you.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Know, with the type of diabetes I have, I have
to take insulin before I eat and then long ACKed,
long lasting insulin, but the blood sugar is always spiking.
The naughty juice leveled it off and I actually am
taking much less insulin nowadays, and I attributed that to
the naanny juice.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
She started using it a.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
And you found that you're blood sugar is better.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
And what are other kinds of issues that we're you're
dealing with?
Speaker 9 (33:04):
And how are they so de necrotizing? Myopathy it's a
very rare fatal disease. The average life span once you
get it is five years. I'm going on seven years now.
My muscles have been eaten away, but they still have,
they still have strength to them. And as of right now,
(33:25):
they check my CPK levels. That's how they determine if
the inflammation is eating away at my muscles. So my
CPKA levels were always high. I started taking the Naughty juice.
My CPK levels every blood test I get, which is
every three months, is either in range are well below
the range that it should be, which is good. Below
(33:46):
the range is good.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
So that's you.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Know, I have to attribute again. I have to attribute
it to the Nanny Juice.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, there you have it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
An interview between our special guest Lary Logs and from
T Trader and John Sheehan, a pro hockey player. I
mean that's scary when you hear that. I mean, here
he is on the ice playing. He has heart attack
secondary to who knows, maybe a COVID shot or some
inflammatory process. His doctor places him on statin drugs. The
(34:19):
statin drugs cause his body to shut down and develop
type one diabetes, which is the worst type of diabetes
where the beta cells in the panker is quit making insulin,
which is unbelievable, and then he developing a neckritizing disease
where muscle tissues being destroyed and a whole long list
(34:40):
of other things which we don't have time to get into,
which is unbelievable. What a story, Larry, How this gentleman
found his way to a natural remedy, a drug free remedy,
to help his blood.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Sugar situation get under control.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And that's the hardest one to type one is the
hardest one to develop because obviously he's got to take
a certain amount of insulin, but he's taking less of it.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Why is that? Now?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
People are, of course wondering, well, how the heck did
this kind of fruit juice help with this problem? So, Larry,
I'm gonna let you take it from there.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Well, doctor bomb, nony juice is amazing healing properties. First
of all, I mean with nony juice by itself, studies
have been conclusive showing that non y juice will by
itself help you kitch your cholesterol in order don't have
to worry about it. It'll bring it down several points
and that's a big deal. Just drink and announce a
(35:42):
day we'll see it come down twenty points, maybe more. So.
He's on the right track using it. What happened here
is he has had damage done to his pancreas and
his liver, and know he is helping to restore this
stuff because it's the amazing adapt helping the body do
what it likes to do best, heal itself up. Now
(36:04):
what's going on here is the wound healing is what's
going on. And now the body is producing more inflanent
on its own again, and give it time and it
will likely completely recover. But of course we don't know
that just yet because he took a real hit, a real,
real hard hit. But the main thing is nony helps
control the cock two enzyme, which is what causes the inflammation.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, that's this.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
His story is so scary, folks. If you want to
find out for yourself, try to Heati Trader Nony Juice.
It is available at finer health food stores nationwide including GNC, Sprouts,
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(36:50):
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Speaker 3 (37:00):
I'm doctor Bob Martin.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
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Speaker 6 (37:11):
So I call on my angels. It's a little doctor
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Speaker 4 (37:27):
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martsin show. We thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh, you don't want to go anywhere either, because we've
got a lot of health and interesting information coming up.
A little bit later in the program, I'm going to
be talking about Megan Kelly. She reveals she's now battling
a COVID vaccine adverse reaction herself. She's a former Fox
News and NBC News commentator, now currently on Serious XM
(37:57):
hosting The Megan Kelly Show. Wait you hear her story?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Our special guest this hour is with us. Now in
our finishing segment here, Larry Logsden is with us. He's
the founder owner of Tahiti Trader Nony Juice, and you
can find out more about Tahiti Trader by walking into
any fine health food store and asking for Tahiti Trader
(38:23):
Noni it's there, And if you can't find it in
the store that you're shopping in, you can certainly go
to their website Tahitiitrader dot com. All one word Tahiti
Trader dot com or find health food stores like GNC, Sprouts,
Farmers' Markets, Whole Foods, Vitamins shop Now Larry. For those
people who are just tuning into the interview, they may
(38:44):
not have heard the top of the interview with the
interview track that we played, the audio bit that we
played the John Sheehan remarkable story where his doctor placed
him on a STATN cluster learning drug and his body
shut down. This is not unusual. A lot of people
get these stating drug side effects.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
They don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
They go back to their doctors and say, well, Doc,
since I've been taking the side effects, my muscle's hurt,
I can't think straight. I want something different. No, no, no,
you have to stay on this drug. Would you rather
have a heart attack and a stroke? And so they
you know, that's what they're left with. Well, obviously it's
a it's a total package. They need to change their lifestyle.
They need to exercise regularly, they need to take nutrients
(39:26):
obviously and learn about what nature has provided. And that's
Tahati Trader nony juice to help with the inflammatory process,
which is the smoking gun behind most elevations of cholesterol
in the first place, Larry, in the final minute that
we have left, just if you can sum it up
for those people who maybe just tuning in, sir.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Well, I would. I would say that what you have
to deal with here, folks, is drinking nony juice has
an amazing compound that help bring inflammation on to control
it naturally all by itself. It's a healing agent. It's
got astroholic acid, routing, nonicide and other important compounds more
(40:10):
than one hundred and sixty unique compounds not found anywhere else,
and you'll feel better. You're going to notice the difference
in how things work in your body. If you have
health problems, they seem to just evaporate the thing. I
would suggest doctor Bob is try it out. We have
a very special offer for doctor Bob listeners on our website.
(40:32):
Get two bottles for a special price and our new
book Building an Amazing Immune System. I highly recommend it, folks,
help you get going on the right path.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Fronto excellent all right Tahiti Trader dot com.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Folks, Tahiti Trader dot com.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Check it out, Larry Logs and thank you so very
much for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
We'll be right back
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