March 31, 2025 • 40 mins
Special Announcement that Dr. Adam Brockman is the new co-host of the Dr Bob Martin Show.
Since we now know that space travel will soon be available to the average citizen, it is time to
better understand the implications it may cause to one’s precious health. Scientists study aging
and the mysterious effects of outer space on the human body have been gathering important
data for decades. Nasa astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Willmore recent return to Earth has spiked
great interest space travel and the health implications of both short- and long-term microgravity.
Since we now know that space travel will soon be available to the average citizen, it is time to
better understand the implications it may cause to one’s precious health. Scientists study aging
and the mysterious effects of outer space on the human body have been gathering important
data for decades. Nasa astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Willmore recent return to Earth has spiked
great interest space travel and the health implications of both short- and long-term microgravity.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, I have you know that you have entered a
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right now, and we thank you for tuning into the program,
and we want to start off with a major announcement
on this radio show. Oh my god. You know, after
twenty nine years of nationwide syndicated radio, in this radio
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show that I have been hosting for twenty nine plus years,
I thought to myself, you know, when is it gonna happen?
When is it going to be the day that this
thing gets so big, so large ass that I need help?
Well that day has come, and I'm here to announce
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that we have a special guest slash co host joining
us right now. His name is doctor Adam Brockman, and
doctor Adam Brockman let me give you a little bit
of his background, and believe me, this is the cropped
down version of it. He has got a CV that
is absolutely amazing. It suck up a lot of showtime here,
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but we'll give you the nuts and bolts of his background,
and over the next months and hopefully years, you'll learn
learn more about this individual and why he was selected
to from this point forward co host this radio show.
Doctor Brockman's undergraduate education started about twenty five plus years
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ago and included earning a Bachelor of Science degree from
the University of Louisville. Doctor Brockman went on to earn
two doctorates count two, one as a chiropractic physician and
the second doctorate as a nature pathic physician. Doctor Brockman's
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training and clinical nutrition is extensive. He has personally cared
for thousands and thousands of patients over his seventeen year
career as a practicing physician, including treating professional athletes in
the NBA, the m LB, and the NFL all of those.
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So with that, let me welcome doctor Adam Brockman to
the program today. Good day to you, Doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Hello Doctor Bob, and thank you for having me on
your show today. Is an absolute pleasure and honor to
be here and have the opportunity to discuss relevant health
topics with you. Is somebody that I look up up
to as a as a mentor.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, thank you for that I took. It was a
long and hard consideration for me not to get help
because I've needed help on this radio show. Because this
radio show is growing by leaps and bounds all the time,
we just want to give a shout out to WNEW
in New York City, new affiliate, number one radio market
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in the United States. I mean, this show is just growing,
in large part, Doctor Brockman, thanks to our audience. The
audience of this radio show continues to tell people about
the show. Listeners are telling their family members, their friends,
or coworkers or neighbors, and as a result of that,
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the message is getting out. And in this day and
age when our health in the United States is in
complete turmoil and circling the drain, as we say, the
health of our nation, we need help. We need we
need young people to step up and help educate people
as to how to stay healthy in the first place
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and not wait to break down, not fix it when
it's broken, sort of an attitude which is what the
American sick care system has revolved into. I mean, no
doubt there is emergency medicine nine to one to one
ambulances and all the fine things that dedicated doctors do
to save lives is absolutely amazing. But I think we
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need to focus on and I know that you agree
with this, we need to focus on keeping people well
and not getting into the crisis that they get into
trying to hail Mary, you know, bring Santa claus On
at the end. If we're bad boys and girls to
our bodies. Would you agree with that, Doctor.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Brockman, Absolutely, we need to focus on natural health, and
the term alternative does not fit this. This should be
mainstream and now as good a time as any to
make that happen.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I look at conventional medicine as the alternative medicine because
it certainly is the youngest of the medicines. I mean,
when you look at traditional Chinese medicine, it's over two
thousand years old. When you look at iravetic medicine thousands
of years old. When you look at remedies, at our
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grandmothers and great grandfathers practiced and utilized to improve their
quality of life and to help them. I mean, the
way that we roll today with pharmaceutical drugs is certainly
relevant and can be life saving. But it can also
take your life too. It's risky to go into a hospital.
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We know that you can get saved, have your life
saved there, but you can also die there of a
condition you didn't have when you went through the door.
So I think the more educated people become, the more
self reliant they become. And that's what this show is
dedicated to. As you well know, being your own best
doctor most of the time, and in order to get
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to that, you need to educate people. You need to
tell them how to get to that space and not
just expect them to do it on their own. And
that's I hope a part of what we do here
on this show and others like it, so that the
public can benefit their most precious possession, that of course,
that being their health. All right, enough set about that.
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The topic we're going to discuss today and right out
of the gate is the exciting news about the astronauts
that recently were returned to the Earth who had been
stranded in outer space. Oh my gosh, I don't know
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about you, ladies and gentlemen, but I aspired, like a
lot of others, to be an astronaut when I was
growing up. In fact, the Apollo eleven mission that landed
on the Moon in nineteen sixty nine. I think it
was like fourteen or fifteen years of age. That really
caught my attention, and as it did a lot of people,
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and I thought, geez, wouldn't it be so cool to
go up in outer space and see those things and
experience those things. So of course, I from that point
fixated on it and had a lot of aspirations in
that regard. It never worked out, but I still think
about it. And yet when you see these pictures that
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were recently released, photographs depicting the you know that just
came back from outer space with the physical effects of
their bodies. Man, oh man, that got my attention in
a big way. And I'm thinking to myself, WHOA. I
wonder what astronauts are paid. I don't know if anybody
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could pay me enough to take that kind of risk today,
knowing what the risks are both to I mean, you
could die easily and your physical health going forward being
in outer space. And doctor Brockman, I looked this up here.
It is the average salary for an astronaut, and I'm
talking about seasoned astronaut is between one hundred and four
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thousand dollars and one hundred and sixty one thousand dollars
per year to go up in space and take that
kind of risk and do that kind of ravage to
your body, which we're going to be talking about here shortly.
And then I looked up the average salary for a
National Basketball Association a player, an NBA player in the
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in the NBA basketball player twelve million dollars per year
average salary. I'm saying myself, what's wrong with this picture?
Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, so we we have a
break to take here, Doctor Brockmann. When we come back,
I want to get into this idea of aeronautic medicine
and aeronautic healthcare and what astronauts go through and why
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is it that you know they end up with the
type of maladies and infirmities, and when you consider that
we're looking at trips to Mars in the not too
distant future. According to Elon Musk and others, it's an
important topic to discuss because I know a lot of
people want to go to outer space. So we'll have
some of that information when we come back. So stick around.
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stay conscious.
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Through the maness and case.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I call on my angels say, oh.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's a little doctor, Doctor victory is in your body,
you know, and you.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Will, all right, Doctor Bob Martin, back with you. Also
with our special co host with us as well, Doctor
Adam Brockman is joining me today and from this point
forward will be assisting me in this radio show. So
glad to have him. I've needed help for years. Finally
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found somebody who is qualified and completely equipped to do
just that, and I am excited about it. Doctor Brockman,
thank you for being here and welcome back to the show.
I want you. I want to get into some of
the issues and concerns that astronauts face when they go
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into out of space, because I know a lot of
people are thinking, well, gosh, if I save up enough money,
because I've heard that you can get a ride to
the space station for about a million dollars. I know
that Putin sold one from Russia, and I think in
the future, this is what's going to happen, and some
of the people listening right now, their children or their
grandchildren may actually travel into space on a journey to
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distances that we don't know about right now, planets, maybe Mars.
So I thought, let's talk about the risks and the
effects of outer space on our astronauts. Let's do that,
and I want to zero in on micro gravity. What happens.
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You know this Sanita Williams and Butch Wilmore, the ones
who were stranded on the space station for hundreds of
days and finally got back home thanks to Elon Musk
and the Trump administration. We're so glad that they are
safe and back home. But when when I saw a picture,
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doctor Brockman, of Cinita Williams side by side when she
began her journey to the space station, and then when
they took the picture of her stepping out of the
space capsule when she returned to Earth. Seriously, it looked
like she had aged about maybe fifty years. I mean,
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it was scary to me. Did you get the same impression, Brockman.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, I did. She looked like she was very
ill coming off of the spaceship. And you know, talking
about aeronautical medicine, doctor Bob, I find this topic just
as fascinating as you, and I'm certain that any of
the listeners find it just as interesting. I do want
to make several observations before we dig into this article
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about aeronautical medicine. Many of us, like you said yourself myself,
during our childhood, have aspired to venture into space or
pursue a career as astronauts, and we were all well
aware of the inherent risk associated with space travel, such
as being propelled through the atmosphere and then dropping back
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through the atmosphere, splashing down an Atlantic Ocean, you know,
to be rescued by the NASA crew. However, it was
not until these recent release of these photographs of the
astronauts that were stranded that we fully grasp the physical
risk that space travel posts our bodies and health. What
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you said, with the originally intended as basically about an
eight to ten day mission extended over two hundred and
eighty days, and so one can only imagine the psychological
toll this must have had on these astronauts.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know, over the years, I've read stories about the
physical challenges that astronauts have going into space and what
happens to their bodies, and I want to discuss that
because there are people who are thinking, hey, you jump
in the capsule, you come out you're good to go.
Not so much, Ladies and John when you look in
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and you see what's happening. Because, as doctor Rockman just
pointed out, when Miss Williams came back, I mean she
would she have an IV. They immediately put an IV
in her arm to get her fluids rehydrate her. Because
that's I think that's an automatic when you're in space,
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that that's going to happen. But there are all kinds
of other issues, you know, especially related to the muscular
little skeletal system that happen two astronauts, and I want
to discuss that a little bit. The effects of microgravity.
We hear that, you know, when you're in space, you
actually get taller. I don't know. I thought it was
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like an inch taller, maybe an inch and a half taller.
And then when you yeah and maybe yeah, maybe even greater,
and then when you come back, everything compresses back down
and then suddenly you're feeling like not so good. And
it's my understanding, Doctor Brockman, that many of the astronauts,
I don't know what percentage it is, maybe you know this,
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suffer from spinal paint, like lower back pain and disk
problems and they have pain radiating down, you know, into
their arms and their legs, which is extremely painful due
to the disruption of their spinal biomechanics, you know, compared
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to when you have no gravity and you have full
gravity once you re enter the Earth. So I want
people to know my personal opinion of that is that one,
why is it that only a percentage of astronauts developed
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these problems? And what can we learn from that to
provide for them going forward so that they don't come
back with those kinds of structural problems which seem to
be probably the easier things to correct. What is your
opinion of that, doctor problem.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, if we're just talking about the spinal related pain,
back pain, it's nearly eighty percent of astronauts experience that
whether they're on the mission and then when they come
back to Earth, it's nearly a third of them thirty
some percent that have chronic back related issues.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That eighty percent sounds like the population of the United
States at one time, well, eight out of ten people
will have a lower back problem at one period of time.
So what you're saying then, is that not all astronauts
come back in pain in their spine, in their backs,
in their discs with their nerves only a percentage due.
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Is that what I hear you saying?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah? And it does some of the mimics the natural
aging process that we experience with elderly on Earth, which
I'd like to get into it at some point today
if we have time. But I think a lot of
it has to do with the astronaut's core strength before
they go on the mission, which is often ignored by NASA.
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They have very health related you know, exams and questions
that lead up to this, dealing with eyesight and mental ability,
but they do not look at the structure. And I
think that's something that maybe need to be researched further
or looked at.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I would agree with you. If you have a certain
percentage of astronauts coming back and they're in a lot
of distress, a lot of pain with their backs, and
there's another percentage that are not, you have to figure
and my mind goes to pre existing condition right away.
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Why is it that a certain percentage of them are
not impacted with back pain, with nerve pain, with disc
herniations and other problems when a certain percentage are And
my training tells me that those astronauts that are having problems.
We're in a distress before they got into the capsule
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to take off, and they weren't afforded or were not
provided spinal care by a competent, qualified, licensed chiropractic physician
before they climbed into the space capsule. So they went
in to the program not being carried for fully and
came back a lot worse, which means that their condition
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was simply exacerbated. It wasn't probably created in space, but
rather brought to a head in space because of the
stretching and the elongation that micro gravity has on a spine.
And of course it's always going to impact the area
that is the weakest. You're only as strong as your
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weakest link. And if you've got back problems prior to
doing a space trip, you're going to have back problems
when you come back, and they're going to be escalating.
And that's why I think the NASA program needs to
include a proper evaluation by a chiropractic physician on all astronauts.
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They deserve it, they need it, and we should provide it.
All Right, we're gonna come right back. Stay with us,
ladies and gentlemen. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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Doctor Bob Martin Show. We'll get back to the conversation
about aeronautic medicine astronauts in space and how it impacts
their health and wellness both in space and afterwards. My
co host, doctor Adam Brockman will be joining in that
conversation shortly, so stand by. But before we get to that,
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tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin Joe. I'm here with
my co host, doctor Adam Brockman, and we're talking about
aeronautic medicine, what happens to astronauts their health. And obviously
astronauts have to be in tip top shape based on
a medical evaluation. Their eyesight has to be even better
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than twenty twenty. Like all pilots, they have to have
physical strength. They have to be able to You've seen
these demonstrate on television where they where they whirl them
around over and over. They have to be able to
recover from that. They can't get dizzy in their head
and lose their ability to function inside space. So we're
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talking about that with doctor Adam Brockman and some of
the challenges that we have because I dare say that
some people aspire to go into space that are listening
to the son of my voice right now, and you
may have children or grandchildren who do just that. Maybe
they are going to embark upon a mission to Mars,
somebody in your family. It may happen. And knowing a
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little bit more about outer space and the impact of
microgravity in the human body, I think is good for
everybody to know, to better understand it, to appreciate what
astronauts who get paid a buck and a half a
year compared to eleven million dollars with the average NBA player.
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To me, there's something wrong with this picture. Do you
agree with that, Doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think you hit it. With human
missions to Mars are projected to commit somewhere around twenty thirty,
with a duration of these mission missions being span of
two and a half years or more.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, In the prospect of space travel become accessible to
the general population, it's coming and perhaps sooner than anticipated.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Exactly a lot of these rich moguls are now buying
their way into outer space. That's how it all got
started with lay people going up that needed to They
had to have just a minimal amount of preparatory activity
before they allowed them to do this. So it's all
about the dollar right now. But obviously we're going to
expand into space. It's what we do as beings. As
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humans were interested in it, but we need to know
what we're getting into. I think the average person does
not know. That's why I wanted to discuss this topic.
It's fascinating to you, doctor Brockman, and myself, and I
think a lot of other audience members are also interested
in learning more about it. Let me ask you this question,
(27:11):
how do give us an overview of how astronauts maintain
their physical health while they're in space. They're in this tiny,
little micronized capsule which seems so small. When I looked
at that capsule that landed in the Atlantic the other day,
and I was thinking to myself, Okay, well that was
the capsule that came back in. They were on the
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space station and they're you know, they're floating through that
and you see the hair flowing up and so forth.
But how to astronauts astronauts maintain their physical health while
in space.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Do you know, Well, there's not a lot they can do.
They try to do what they can with the cardiovascular
strength in some resistance training, but the effects of micro gravity,
which is that weightlessness, it's tough to really have that
bone building strength activity that we experience on the Earth
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with gravity. So the body, it goes through several adaptations,
and most of them adversely impact the spine in the
structure of the body. I think you mentioned spinal elongation,
which is the process that results in a temporary increase
in this height, and I think it's one two inches
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or more. However, this elongation at least a back discomfort
because if you can imagine those muscles and tendons and
ligaments are stretching beyond its usual limpit limits.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
And especially those who have already spinal misalignments or what
we call subluxations, they're going to impact them in a
greater way. And this is why it is so quintessential
in my opinion, for all astronauts to be under regular
chiropractic care before they enter into the space program, during
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the space program, and certainly before and after their space missions,
because if you don't do that, you're asking for trouble.
It's no different than if somebody has a pre existing
know you fill in the blank, heart problem, lung problem.
Obviously you're going to take care of that before you
put somebody under that kind of stress and rigor. Why
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wouldn't you do that? Knowing that space travel causes such
an amazing and exhilarating in some cases because who doesn't
want to be two inches taller? But it may exacerbate
in existing condition. And that's why I think the men
and women, the brave men and women who go intout
of space need regular spinal care delivered by the doctor
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of choice, which happens to be the chiropractic physician. We'll
talk more about this when we come back. Stay tuned.
I'm talking about Martin. So I'm.
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I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I welcome you or welcome you. Back to this hour
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rigors of outer space with our special co host from
this point forward, doctor Adam Brockman is joining us. Doctor Brockman,
you know we talked about some of the physical issues.
What about the psychological effects of space. I mean think
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I was thinking about those astronauts being up there, being
stranded for over two hundred days. They were supposed to
be there what eight or ten days? They're there for
hundreds of days. I mean just being in space being
I mean a lot of us seek quietness when there's
a lot of chatter, but not that much, not that long.
I think it would drive me crazy if I was
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away from my family and a lot of the things
that I do today. So what role does the psychological
support play in an astronaut's health?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Well, this has got to be very important because if
you can, if you can imagine these astronauts that were stranded,
they thought they were going to be up there for
ten days, it turns out it's a better part of
a year. Can you I just can't imagine that. So
I want to read what is a psychiatrist in Beverly Hills,
said a doctor Lieberman? She said, quote, and we're talking
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about Sunny Williams. Here said quote Williams apparent weight loss
may have not been entirely caused by physical issues. Doctor
Lieberman went on to say, these astronauts have been in
space for nine months, when only they were supposed to
be there for ten days. And she goes on to say,
quote for most of this time, they couldn't be sure
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if they were ever going to be rescued, which is
tremendously stressful. Goes on to say more. Here, Sunita Williams
put on a brave face and told everyone she was
happy to have that extra time in space, but the
prospect of facing a slow death in a space capsule
is the thing that nightmares are made of, and it
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took a toll on her psyche.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So can you how can you get rid of that thought?
You know, no matter how optimistic and positive you are
about getting back, there's also the reality check knowing, and
you know, astronauts know the risks. They know the risks
associated with what they're doing, even though they're only getting
paid one hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year at
the most, which is to me an embarrassment. We need
(35:23):
to change that up immediately. Go ahead. I don't mean
to interrupt you there.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh no, you're fine. And I think this the psychological toll.
How astronauts manage this stress while they're there, If they're
anticipating being there for as long as they are, they
can do things and manage the stress through meditation, deep
breathing exercises, and they maintain a structured routine. They can
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also do some video calls with their family, which I
think is important. But the thing that I still see
that is lacking is this is the supplementation. How the
food is up there is similar to if we were
going on a camping trip. So it's freeze dried, you
have to rehydrate it, and it's lacking nutrients. We got
(36:08):
to do some more supplementation with these astronauts so they
aren't coming back looking so ill.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, we need to get into the bare bones and
the basics of clinical nutrition, not just the you know,
the basic registered dietitian sort of stuff, which is minimal
minimal in my opinion, It has to go above and
beyond that. We need to get into therapeutic doses of
clinical nutrition. Based on the fact that their bodies are
(36:38):
going to be put through so much more stress than
what we find here on Earth. Therefore, we need a
greater level of nutrition to offset that or to counter it.
Hopefully that will happen soon. All right, we're gonna come
right back with you. Stay here. You're tuned into the
Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I'm gonna stand by all.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Right, you're tuned into the Doctor Brock Martin Show. We
have with us doctor Adam Brockman as well, and we've
been talking about outer space travel the risks associated with it,
which include blindness, brain damage, bone fractures, you name it.
Astronauts are subjected to amazing and extreme health hazards. I
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don't think they're totally appreciated with what they do at all,
and they need to be compensated, at least from a
salary standpoint, a lot more than they currently are. And
we also need to provide for them cutting edge healthcare,
which they're not real from everything I've been able to learn,
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and I know people who work at NASA in Houston.
In fact, I have treated a number of NASA employees
that work in Houston, Texas, and I know what these astronauts.
You know, I got a lot of information that I
otherwise would not have received from people who are on
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the inside of NASA. And I have to tell you
that they're not getting cutting edge nutrition as taught to
doctor Adam Brockman and myself. They're getting minimal there, and
they're not getting the type of care that their body
frames need before they even go into space. You know,
it's okay, your heart sounds good, you got good lungs,
(38:47):
you can see get in there. You know, I'm sure
there's more than that, and they have to be in
tip top shape. But they're not receiving a well rounded,
holistic version of healthcare. They're simply being screened for sick
care issues. All right, doctor Brock, will we just have
a couple minutes left in this hour. I'm gonna let
you have it to impart any information you'd like to
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finish with in this segment.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Well, space exploration has also has always been fascinating to
most of us. It pushes the limits of human endurance
human ingenuity. However, it's not without its challenges, particularly concerning
the health of astronauts, like we've been discussing. But one
of the most intriguing aspects of these health concerns is
the similarity that it is to the natural aging process
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we experience on Earth. The physical toll on astronauts provides
valuable insights into this aging process. It is you can
assume that NASA will intensify its research for the aeronautical medicine,
thereby offering a greater understanding for the overall aging process
that is experienced on Earth. Considering the exposure to things
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like free rat in the DNA alterations that are endured
by astronauts in space. This is a normal part of
the aging process that all of us are going to
experience here. And I think that that's probably one of
the more fascinating aspects of what can be done with
NASA research on the human body, especially as some of
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us think about traveling to space ourselves.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, it seems like it's almost like thinking about putting
somebody into an oven and slowly cooking them, but turning
it up faster in outer space. It's scary. Ladies and gentlemen,
all right, thank you for that, doctor Brockman. Ladies and gentlemen,
don't go anywhere. We're going to talk next hour about
us travelers warned up uncontrollable nosebleeds as a deadly virus spreads.
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We'll cover that next hour. Stay with us.
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, I have you know that you have entered a
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and we want to start off with a major announcement
on this radio show. Oh my god. You know, after
twenty nine years of nationwide syndicated radio, in this radio
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show that I have been hosting for twenty nine plus years,
I thought to myself, you know, when is it gonna happen?
When is it going to be the day that this
thing gets so big, so large ass that I need help?
Well that day has come, and I'm here to announce
(02:29):
that we have a special guest slash co host joining
us right now. His name is doctor Adam Brockman, and
doctor Adam Brockman let me give you a little bit
of his background, and believe me, this is the cropped
down version of it. He has got a CV that
is absolutely amazing. It suck up a lot of showtime here,
(02:51):
but we'll give you the nuts and bolts of his background,
and over the next months and hopefully years, you'll learn
learn more about this individual and why he was selected
to from this point forward co host this radio show.
Doctor Brockman's undergraduate education started about twenty five plus years
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ago and included earning a Bachelor of Science degree from
the University of Louisville. Doctor Brockman went on to earn
two doctorates count two, one as a chiropractic physician and
the second doctorate as a nature pathic physician. Doctor Brockman's
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training and clinical nutrition is extensive. He has personally cared
for thousands and thousands of patients over his seventeen year
career as a practicing physician, including treating professional athletes in
the NBA, the m LB, and the NFL all of those.
(04:00):
So with that, let me welcome doctor Adam Brockman to
the program today. Good day to you, Doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Hello Doctor Bob, and thank you for having me on
your show today. Is an absolute pleasure and honor to
be here and have the opportunity to discuss relevant health
topics with you. Is somebody that I look up up
to as a as a mentor.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, thank you for that I took. It was a
long and hard consideration for me not to get help
because I've needed help on this radio show. Because this
radio show is growing by leaps and bounds all the time,
we just want to give a shout out to WNEW
in New York City, new affiliate, number one radio market
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in the United States. I mean, this show is just growing,
in large part, Doctor Brockman, thanks to our audience. The
audience of this radio show continues to tell people about
the show. Listeners are telling their family members, their friends,
or coworkers or neighbors, and as a result of that,
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the message is getting out. And in this day and
age when our health in the United States is in
complete turmoil and circling the drain, as we say, the
health of our nation, we need help. We need we
need young people to step up and help educate people
as to how to stay healthy in the first place
(05:26):
and not wait to break down, not fix it when
it's broken, sort of an attitude which is what the
American sick care system has revolved into. I mean, no
doubt there is emergency medicine nine to one to one
ambulances and all the fine things that dedicated doctors do
to save lives is absolutely amazing. But I think we
(05:51):
need to focus on and I know that you agree
with this, we need to focus on keeping people well
and not getting into the crisis that they get into
trying to hail Mary, you know, bring Santa claus On
at the end. If we're bad boys and girls to
our bodies. Would you agree with that, Doctor.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Brockman, Absolutely, we need to focus on natural health, and
the term alternative does not fit this. This should be
mainstream and now as good a time as any to
make that happen.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I look at conventional medicine as the alternative medicine because
it certainly is the youngest of the medicines. I mean,
when you look at traditional Chinese medicine, it's over two
thousand years old. When you look at iravetic medicine thousands
of years old. When you look at remedies, at our
(06:43):
grandmothers and great grandfathers practiced and utilized to improve their
quality of life and to help them. I mean, the
way that we roll today with pharmaceutical drugs is certainly
relevant and can be life saving. But it can also
take your life too. It's risky to go into a hospital.
(07:05):
We know that you can get saved, have your life
saved there, but you can also die there of a
condition you didn't have when you went through the door.
So I think the more educated people become, the more
self reliant they become. And that's what this show is
dedicated to. As you well know, being your own best
doctor most of the time, and in order to get
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to that, you need to educate people. You need to
tell them how to get to that space and not
just expect them to do it on their own. And
that's I hope a part of what we do here
on this show and others like it, so that the
public can benefit their most precious possession, that of course,
that being their health. All right, enough set about that.
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The topic we're going to discuss today and right out
of the gate is the exciting news about the astronauts
that recently were returned to the Earth who had been
stranded in outer space. Oh my gosh, I don't know
(08:10):
about you, ladies and gentlemen, but I aspired, like a
lot of others, to be an astronaut when I was
growing up. In fact, the Apollo eleven mission that landed
on the Moon in nineteen sixty nine. I think it
was like fourteen or fifteen years of age. That really
caught my attention, and as it did a lot of people,
(08:31):
and I thought, geez, wouldn't it be so cool to
go up in outer space and see those things and
experience those things. So of course, I from that point
fixated on it and had a lot of aspirations in
that regard. It never worked out, but I still think
about it. And yet when you see these pictures that
(08:55):
were recently released, photographs depicting the you know that just
came back from outer space with the physical effects of
their bodies. Man, oh man, that got my attention in
a big way. And I'm thinking to myself, WHOA. I
wonder what astronauts are paid. I don't know if anybody
(09:18):
could pay me enough to take that kind of risk today,
knowing what the risks are both to I mean, you
could die easily and your physical health going forward being
in outer space. And doctor Brockman, I looked this up here.
It is the average salary for an astronaut, and I'm
talking about seasoned astronaut is between one hundred and four
(09:40):
thousand dollars and one hundred and sixty one thousand dollars
per year to go up in space and take that
kind of risk and do that kind of ravage to
your body, which we're going to be talking about here shortly.
And then I looked up the average salary for a
National Basketball Association a player, an NBA player in the
(10:03):
in the NBA basketball player twelve million dollars per year
average salary. I'm saying myself, what's wrong with this picture?
Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, so we we have a
break to take here, Doctor Brockmann. When we come back,
I want to get into this idea of aeronautic medicine
and aeronautic healthcare and what astronauts go through and why
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is it that you know they end up with the
type of maladies and infirmities, and when you consider that
we're looking at trips to Mars in the not too
distant future. According to Elon Musk and others, it's an
important topic to discuss because I know a lot of
people want to go to outer space. So we'll have
some of that information when we come back. So stick around.
(10:50):
You're tuned into the doctor Bob Martin Show. I must
stay conscious.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Through the maness and case.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I call on my angels say, oh.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's a little doctor, Doctor victory is in your body,
you know, and you.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Will, all right, Doctor Bob Martin, back with you. Also
with our special co host with us as well, Doctor
Adam Brockman is joining me today and from this point
forward will be assisting me in this radio show. So
glad to have him. I've needed help for years. Finally
(11:46):
found somebody who is qualified and completely equipped to do
just that, and I am excited about it. Doctor Brockman,
thank you for being here and welcome back to the show.
I want you. I want to get into some of
the issues and concerns that astronauts face when they go
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into out of space, because I know a lot of
people are thinking, well, gosh, if I save up enough money,
because I've heard that you can get a ride to
the space station for about a million dollars. I know
that Putin sold one from Russia, and I think in
the future, this is what's going to happen, and some
of the people listening right now, their children or their
grandchildren may actually travel into space on a journey to
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distances that we don't know about right now, planets, maybe Mars.
So I thought, let's talk about the risks and the
effects of outer space on our astronauts. Let's do that,
and I want to zero in on micro gravity. What happens.
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You know this Sanita Williams and Butch Wilmore, the ones
who were stranded on the space station for hundreds of
days and finally got back home thanks to Elon Musk
and the Trump administration. We're so glad that they are
safe and back home. But when when I saw a picture,
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doctor Brockman, of Cinita Williams side by side when she
began her journey to the space station, and then when
they took the picture of her stepping out of the
space capsule when she returned to Earth. Seriously, it looked
like she had aged about maybe fifty years. I mean,
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it was scary to me. Did you get the same impression, Brockman.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, I did. She looked like she was very
ill coming off of the spaceship. And you know, talking
about aeronautical medicine, doctor Bob, I find this topic just
as fascinating as you, and I'm certain that any of
the listeners find it just as interesting. I do want
to make several observations before we dig into this article
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about aeronautical medicine. Many of us, like you said yourself myself,
during our childhood, have aspired to venture into space or
pursue a career as astronauts, and we were all well
aware of the inherent risk associated with space travel, such
as being propelled through the atmosphere and then dropping back
(14:30):
through the atmosphere, splashing down an Atlantic Ocean, you know,
to be rescued by the NASA crew. However, it was
not until these recent release of these photographs of the
astronauts that were stranded that we fully grasp the physical
risk that space travel posts our bodies and health. What
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you said, with the originally intended as basically about an
eight to ten day mission extended over two hundred and
eighty days, and so one can only imagine the psychological
toll this must have had on these astronauts.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know, over the years, I've read stories about the
physical challenges that astronauts have going into space and what
happens to their bodies, and I want to discuss that
because there are people who are thinking, hey, you jump
in the capsule, you come out you're good to go.
Not so much, Ladies and John when you look in
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and you see what's happening. Because, as doctor Rockman just
pointed out, when Miss Williams came back, I mean she
would she have an IV. They immediately put an IV
in her arm to get her fluids rehydrate her. Because
that's I think that's an automatic when you're in space,
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that that's going to happen. But there are all kinds
of other issues, you know, especially related to the muscular
little skeletal system that happen two astronauts, and I want
to discuss that a little bit. The effects of microgravity.
We hear that, you know, when you're in space, you
actually get taller. I don't know. I thought it was
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like an inch taller, maybe an inch and a half taller.
And then when you yeah and maybe yeah, maybe even greater,
and then when you come back, everything compresses back down
and then suddenly you're feeling like not so good. And
it's my understanding, Doctor Brockman, that many of the astronauts,
I don't know what percentage it is, maybe you know this,
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suffer from spinal paint, like lower back pain and disk
problems and they have pain radiating down, you know, into
their arms and their legs, which is extremely painful due
to the disruption of their spinal biomechanics, you know, compared
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to when you have no gravity and you have full
gravity once you re enter the Earth. So I want
people to know my personal opinion of that is that one,
why is it that only a percentage of astronauts developed
(17:13):
these problems? And what can we learn from that to
provide for them going forward so that they don't come
back with those kinds of structural problems which seem to
be probably the easier things to correct. What is your
opinion of that, doctor problem.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, if we're just talking about the spinal related pain,
back pain, it's nearly eighty percent of astronauts experience that
whether they're on the mission and then when they come
back to Earth, it's nearly a third of them thirty
some percent that have chronic back related issues.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That eighty percent sounds like the population of the United
States at one time, well, eight out of ten people
will have a lower back problem at one period of time.
So what you're saying then, is that not all astronauts
come back in pain in their spine, in their backs,
in their discs with their nerves only a percentage due.
(18:13):
Is that what I hear you saying?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah? And it does some of the mimics the natural
aging process that we experience with elderly on Earth, which
I'd like to get into it at some point today
if we have time. But I think a lot of
it has to do with the astronaut's core strength before
they go on the mission, which is often ignored by NASA.
(18:39):
They have very health related you know, exams and questions
that lead up to this, dealing with eyesight and mental ability,
but they do not look at the structure. And I
think that's something that maybe need to be researched further
or looked at.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I would agree with you. If you have a certain
percentage of astronauts coming back and they're in a lot
of distress, a lot of pain with their backs, and
there's another percentage that are not, you have to figure
and my mind goes to pre existing condition right away.
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Why is it that a certain percentage of them are
not impacted with back pain, with nerve pain, with disc
herniations and other problems when a certain percentage are And
my training tells me that those astronauts that are having problems.
We're in a distress before they got into the capsule
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to take off, and they weren't afforded or were not
provided spinal care by a competent, qualified, licensed chiropractic physician
before they climbed into the space capsule. So they went
in to the program not being carried for fully and
came back a lot worse, which means that their condition
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was simply exacerbated. It wasn't probably created in space, but
rather brought to a head in space because of the
stretching and the elongation that micro gravity has on a spine.
And of course it's always going to impact the area
that is the weakest. You're only as strong as your
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weakest link. And if you've got back problems prior to
doing a space trip, you're going to have back problems
when you come back, and they're going to be escalating.
And that's why I think the NASA program needs to
include a proper evaluation by a chiropractic physician on all astronauts.
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They deserve it, they need it, and we should provide it.
All Right, we're gonna come right back. Stay with us,
ladies and gentlemen. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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Doctor Bob Martin Show. We'll get back to the conversation
about aeronautic medicine astronauts in space and how it impacts
their health and wellness both in space and afterwards. My
co host, doctor Adam Brockman will be joining in that
conversation shortly, so stand by. But before we get to that,
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tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin Joe. I'm here with
my co host, doctor Adam Brockman, and we're talking about
aeronautic medicine, what happens to astronauts their health. And obviously
astronauts have to be in tip top shape based on
a medical evaluation. Their eyesight has to be even better
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than twenty twenty. Like all pilots, they have to have
physical strength. They have to be able to You've seen
these demonstrate on television where they where they whirl them
around over and over. They have to be able to
recover from that. They can't get dizzy in their head
and lose their ability to function inside space. So we're
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talking about that with doctor Adam Brockman and some of
the challenges that we have because I dare say that
some people aspire to go into space that are listening
to the son of my voice right now, and you
may have children or grandchildren who do just that. Maybe
they are going to embark upon a mission to Mars,
somebody in your family. It may happen. And knowing a
(25:37):
little bit more about outer space and the impact of
microgravity in the human body, I think is good for
everybody to know, to better understand it, to appreciate what
astronauts who get paid a buck and a half a
year compared to eleven million dollars with the average NBA player.
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To me, there's something wrong with this picture. Do you
agree with that, Doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think you hit it. With human
missions to Mars are projected to commit somewhere around twenty thirty,
with a duration of these mission missions being span of
two and a half years or more.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, In the prospect of space travel become accessible to
the general population, it's coming and perhaps sooner than anticipated.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Exactly a lot of these rich moguls are now buying
their way into outer space. That's how it all got
started with lay people going up that needed to They
had to have just a minimal amount of preparatory activity
before they allowed them to do this. So it's all
about the dollar right now. But obviously we're going to
expand into space. It's what we do as beings. As
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humans were interested in it, but we need to know
what we're getting into. I think the average person does
not know. That's why I wanted to discuss this topic.
It's fascinating to you, doctor Brockman, and myself, and I
think a lot of other audience members are also interested
in learning more about it. Let me ask you this question,
(27:11):
how do give us an overview of how astronauts maintain
their physical health while they're in space. They're in this tiny,
little micronized capsule which seems so small. When I looked
at that capsule that landed in the Atlantic the other day,
and I was thinking to myself, Okay, well that was
the capsule that came back in. They were on the
(27:32):
space station and they're you know, they're floating through that
and you see the hair flowing up and so forth.
But how to astronauts astronauts maintain their physical health while
in space.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Do you know, Well, there's not a lot they can do.
They try to do what they can with the cardiovascular
strength in some resistance training, but the effects of micro gravity,
which is that weightlessness, it's tough to really have that
bone building strength activity that we experience on the Earth
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with gravity. So the body, it goes through several adaptations,
and most of them adversely impact the spine in the
structure of the body. I think you mentioned spinal elongation,
which is the process that results in a temporary increase
in this height, and I think it's one two inches
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or more. However, this elongation at least a back discomfort
because if you can imagine those muscles and tendons and
ligaments are stretching beyond its usual limpit limits.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
And especially those who have already spinal misalignments or what
we call subluxations, they're going to impact them in a
greater way. And this is why it is so quintessential
in my opinion, for all astronauts to be under regular
chiropractic care before they enter into the space program, during
(29:03):
the space program, and certainly before and after their space missions,
because if you don't do that, you're asking for trouble.
It's no different than if somebody has a pre existing
know you fill in the blank, heart problem, lung problem.
Obviously you're going to take care of that before you
put somebody under that kind of stress and rigor. Why
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wouldn't you do that? Knowing that space travel causes such
an amazing and exhilarating in some cases because who doesn't
want to be two inches taller? But it may exacerbate
in existing condition. And that's why I think the men
and women, the brave men and women who go intout
of space need regular spinal care delivered by the doctor
(29:50):
of choice, which happens to be the chiropractic physician. We'll
talk more about this when we come back. Stay tuned.
I'm talking about Martin. So I'm.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
A bush of number Simon and Sable, the one never singles.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I welcome you or welcome you. Back to this hour
of the Doctor Bob Martin Show we have with US
co host doctor Adam Brockmann joining me, and I have
neglected to tell you that coming up a little bit
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(33:01):
rigors of outer space with our special co host from
this point forward, doctor Adam Brockman is joining us. Doctor Brockman,
you know we talked about some of the physical issues.
What about the psychological effects of space. I mean think
(33:21):
I was thinking about those astronauts being up there, being
stranded for over two hundred days. They were supposed to
be there what eight or ten days? They're there for
hundreds of days. I mean just being in space being
I mean a lot of us seek quietness when there's
a lot of chatter, but not that much, not that long.
I think it would drive me crazy if I was
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away from my family and a lot of the things
that I do today. So what role does the psychological
support play in an astronaut's health?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Well, this has got to be very important because if
you can, if you can imagine these astronauts that were stranded,
they thought they were going to be up there for
ten days, it turns out it's a better part of
a year. Can you I just can't imagine that. So
I want to read what is a psychiatrist in Beverly Hills,
said a doctor Lieberman? She said, quote, and we're talking
(34:15):
about Sunny Williams. Here said quote Williams apparent weight loss
may have not been entirely caused by physical issues. Doctor
Lieberman went on to say, these astronauts have been in
space for nine months, when only they were supposed to
be there for ten days. And she goes on to say,
quote for most of this time, they couldn't be sure
(34:37):
if they were ever going to be rescued, which is
tremendously stressful. Goes on to say more. Here, Sunita Williams
put on a brave face and told everyone she was
happy to have that extra time in space, but the
prospect of facing a slow death in a space capsule
is the thing that nightmares are made of, and it
(34:59):
took a toll on her psyche.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So can you how can you get rid of that thought?
You know, no matter how optimistic and positive you are
about getting back, there's also the reality check knowing, and
you know, astronauts know the risks. They know the risks
associated with what they're doing, even though they're only getting
paid one hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year at
the most, which is to me an embarrassment. We need
(35:23):
to change that up immediately. Go ahead. I don't mean
to interrupt you there.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh no, you're fine. And I think this the psychological toll.
How astronauts manage this stress while they're there, If they're
anticipating being there for as long as they are, they
can do things and manage the stress through meditation, deep
breathing exercises, and they maintain a structured routine. They can
(35:48):
also do some video calls with their family, which I
think is important. But the thing that I still see
that is lacking is this is the supplementation. How the
food is up there is similar to if we were
going on a camping trip. So it's freeze dried, you
have to rehydrate it, and it's lacking nutrients. We got
(36:08):
to do some more supplementation with these astronauts so they
aren't coming back looking so ill.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, we need to get into the bare bones and
the basics of clinical nutrition, not just the you know,
the basic registered dietitian sort of stuff, which is minimal
minimal in my opinion, It has to go above and
beyond that. We need to get into therapeutic doses of
clinical nutrition. Based on the fact that their bodies are
(36:38):
going to be put through so much more stress than
what we find here on Earth. Therefore, we need a
greater level of nutrition to offset that or to counter it.
Hopefully that will happen soon. All right, we're gonna come
right back with you. Stay here. You're tuned into the
Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I'm gonna stand by all.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Right, you're tuned into the Doctor Brock Martin Show. We
have with us doctor Adam Brockman as well, and we've
been talking about outer space travel the risks associated with it,
which include blindness, brain damage, bone fractures, you name it.
Astronauts are subjected to amazing and extreme health hazards. I
(37:40):
don't think they're totally appreciated with what they do at all,
and they need to be compensated, at least from a
salary standpoint, a lot more than they currently are. And
we also need to provide for them cutting edge healthcare,
which they're not real from everything I've been able to learn,
(38:03):
and I know people who work at NASA in Houston.
In fact, I have treated a number of NASA employees
that work in Houston, Texas, and I know what these astronauts.
You know, I got a lot of information that I
otherwise would not have received from people who are on
(38:25):
the inside of NASA. And I have to tell you
that they're not getting cutting edge nutrition as taught to
doctor Adam Brockman and myself. They're getting minimal there, and
they're not getting the type of care that their body
frames need before they even go into space. You know,
it's okay, your heart sounds good, you got good lungs,
(38:47):
you can see get in there. You know, I'm sure
there's more than that, and they have to be in
tip top shape. But they're not receiving a well rounded,
holistic version of healthcare. They're simply being screened for sick
care issues. All right, doctor Brock, will we just have
a couple minutes left in this hour. I'm gonna let
you have it to impart any information you'd like to
(39:10):
finish with in this segment.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Well, space exploration has also has always been fascinating to
most of us. It pushes the limits of human endurance
human ingenuity. However, it's not without its challenges, particularly concerning
the health of astronauts, like we've been discussing. But one
of the most intriguing aspects of these health concerns is
the similarity that it is to the natural aging process
(39:36):
we experience on Earth. The physical toll on astronauts provides
valuable insights into this aging process. It is you can
assume that NASA will intensify its research for the aeronautical medicine,
thereby offering a greater understanding for the overall aging process
that is experienced on Earth. Considering the exposure to things
(39:59):
like free rat in the DNA alterations that are endured
by astronauts in space. This is a normal part of
the aging process that all of us are going to
experience here. And I think that that's probably one of
the more fascinating aspects of what can be done with
NASA research on the human body, especially as some of
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us think about traveling to space ourselves.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, it seems like it's almost like thinking about putting
somebody into an oven and slowly cooking them, but turning
it up faster in outer space. It's scary. Ladies and gentlemen,
all right, thank you for that, doctor Brockman. Ladies and gentlemen,
don't go anywhere. We're going to talk next hour about
us travelers warned up uncontrollable nosebleeds as a deadly virus spreads.
(40:43):
We'll cover that next hour. Stay with us.
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