Biden Gives Interview to Erin Burnett

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Independent thoughts, independent life. Thisis Chad Benson. It is the economy
stupid. One of the great lineswhen it comes to politics, ever uttered
because it is about the economy.It's the one thing we all participate in
in gay, straight, black,white, Atheists, Christian, Muslim,
Hindu, right, whatever religion,Buddhist, whatever religion you are, whatever

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you believe or don't believe, furry, we all participate in the economy.
Last night, Joe Biden sat downwith Aaron Burnett, smeled her hair,
then answered some questions. So whenyou talk about the economy, of course,
it is by far the most importantissue for voters. Voters by a
wide margin, trust Trump more onthe economy. Part of the reason for
that may be the numbers. Thecost of buying a home in the United

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States is double what it was whenyou look at your monthly costs from before
the pandemic. Real income when youaccount for inflation, is actually down since
you took office. Consumer confidence,maybe no surprise, is near a two
year low. With less than sixmonths to go to election day. Are
you worried that you're running out oftime to turn that around? We've already

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turned around. Look you look atthe Michigan serve for sixty five percent of
American people think they're in good shapeeconomic right. I think the nation's not
in good shape, but they're personallyin good shape. The pulling data has
been wrong all along, though ithas and I will admit this right when
many others in my industry will not. I think there are two sides to

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the story. There is the sidewhere you have a job. I feel
comfortable in your job, right,you know that, whether maybe you own
a company, maybe you work forcompany, whatever it is. That's the
employment side of it, the producerside of it. Then you put on
the consumer side and the consumer sideof it. Yeah, that's the issue

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that people have. They're looking aroundgoing, are you blanking kidding me?
When did McDonald get so expensive?And I don't mean to be broke,
but for an eight count mini,an eliminade fourteen dollars, yeah, it's
expensive. It is now. Someof it is the fact that we continue

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to spend. So when I hearpeople bitch all the time, I'm like,
well, why is everything pack right? That's some of it. But
there's no doubt there is a worryof what is going on in the economy.
We sit here and you know,we see what's going on in the
college campuses and what's going on inIsrael in Ukraine, and we have to
pay attention to Those are big issuesthat we're paying money towards. At the

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same time, down on the listof things that most people are paying attention
to on a daily basis, Youand I we pay attention to it,
We talk about it. But we'vegot our family, We're dealing with our
own issues. We're trying to payour bills, we're trying to do all
those kinds of things, and lifeis becoming that American dream for many unattainable.

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They just feel like it's getting awayfrom them. Continue air Burnett.
Joe Biden. Let me pre sayit this way. When I started this
administration, people were saying they're goingto be a collapse in the economy.
We have the strongest economy in theworld. We say it again, in
the world. Although GDP last weekwas far short of expectations, oh it

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wasn't. Look GDP is still looking. The response to the markets overwhelmingly positive.
And one of the reasons why peoplefeel good about it not being as
strong as it was before is theybelieve that the Fed's going to respond.
They hope they're going to get aweight cut. Yeah. No, president's
had the run we've had in termsof the creating jobs and bringing down on
fishing. It was nine percent whenI came to office. Yeah, you

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came to office in a pandemic creatingjobs. You didn't do you take credit
for jobs that were essentially paused becauseof the pandemic, Right, that's what
That's what you get for that.You're the picture that comes in in the
fifth inning when the team's up twelveto nothing and you get that last out

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of the fifth inning, and thenthey pull you and you get credit for
a win. Oh, it doesn'twork that way. It doesn't. Sorry.
And when you start talking about themarket, which is important retirement stuff
of this nature, yesterday talk aboutsoci security. We're talking a bit about
it again Lived On Todaybudy Zack Abraham'sjoining the program today to talk about it

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because we're off tomorrow on Mondays.Want to remind everybody of that. But
I'm telling you guys this like whenand this is where I was when he
says something. I just fwish peopleto go, hey, look great,
and we are the strongest economy theworld. You look around the world,
everybody else's struggle has been much worsethan ours. I expect that so the
best country on the planet, soI expect that to be a portion what

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we do. That being said,you can't discount how people feel. You
can't. You've got to take itall in. And I wish somebody would
also hit him with, Look,we're in the middle of a pandemic.
When you came in a pandemic thatwe were still going through that we had

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just gotten the shot for, andwe were telling people to stay home.
Then they came back to work.It wasn't like you got back there and
these forty million people who weren't workinganymore, whatever they they You went out
and helped create those jobs. No, those people got to go back to
their job. So keep running withthat excuse. People have a right to

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be concerned ordinary people. I mean, there's corporate greed going on out there,
and that's got to be dealt with. What about I mean, but
there's real pain. I mean,grocery prices are up thirty percent, more
than thirty percent since the beginning ofthe pandemic, and people are spending war
and food food and groceries, andthey have at any time really in the
past thirty years. I mean,that's a real day to day pain that
people know. Real if you takea look with them, then people have

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they have the money to spend asangers them and angers me that you have
to spend more, and he blamesit on corporate greed. Is there some
of that? Of course, I'msure there is, But with capitalism the
free market, you're also free togo elsewhere. But there is no doubt
people are feeling it in many ways, and that housing issue is an issue.

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In New York City. One surveyfound rent is rising seven times faster
than wages. In California, acondo in West Hollywood just sold for a
record smashing twenty four million dollars.Food costs also playing a role. Grocery
prices are up twenty six percent sincetwenty nineteen, and fast food prices are
up thirty three percent. Yikes.I know. And I take the kids

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like usually once or twice a week. I'll when I pick the kids up
from school, we'll get them becausethey go to school, they have an
odd schedule. They go Tuesday,Wednesday, Thursday, and like today's their
long day, so they're gonna bethere all day. In fact, the
eldest that goes to this particular schoolwill be there till eight o'clock tonight.
We'll start at eight, so theyhave a long day. But on Tuesdays

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I pick them up. They gofrom school to from like eight till like
one thirty or whatever, and Ipick them up when we go grab a
bite to eat, We'll get somelunch or something, and you know,
run around with the bark spst tobe Charlie. Food prices, fast food
prices. They are insane. Theyare nuts. And when when my thirteen
year old stepdaughter says, oh mygod, she's always like, how much

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was it? Oh my god,it's so expensive. I know, right,
there's like three of us here,how much is it? Again?
People feel that every day. Whenit comes to the housing market, it's
you know, you've got people who'vegot the lowest interest rates they've ever seen
in their life, and they knowthey'll never get again, and they don't

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want to move. So you havea supply and demand issue. We have
more people who want to buy,but then some people want to hold off
because they hope and pray that therates are going to go down, and
the reality is they may go downa little bit, but they're not going
back to the You're not getting atwo point nine or three point one again,
that's just doesn't happening. So you'vegot this weird situation here where you

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know, it used to be,Yeah, you're buying a house, You're
gonna pay a lot less mortgage wise, and you would rent. Now in
most of the top fifty cities,it's worth a to rent and buying a
house. It's it's for a lotof people just coming up with the down
and getting to that point. It'sbecoming unobtainable. People are frustrated, and

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this is going to be the issuethis year, minus the black Swan event
that we've talked about. Remember it'sstill a abortion will be an issue,
no doubt, the border one hundredpercent an issue, but the economy is
always the issue. Three two,three, five, three, eight,
twenty four to twenty three at ChadBenson Show is your Twitter Great show today?

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Coming up, we got a biginterview with the woman who's got a
new book out about d trans peoplethat are escaping the gender ideology cult.
Mary Margaret is going to join usand it is a great interview. I
did it yesterday and uh it isa two part interview and you're gonna get
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slash Chad Chad Benson Show. You'relistening to the Chad Benson Show. It's
real. It's growing increasingly frustrated withthe US over the decision. The concern
is that the thirty five hundred bombsin that shipment could be used in RAFA,

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where more than a million civilians orsheltering officials, pointing specifically to the
destruction caused by two thousand pound bombsin civilian areas, bombs that can flatten
buildings, their destructive power reaching hundredsof yards beyond a target. Arguably,
the worst decision maker when it comesto geopolitics in the history of this is

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deciding this. And I'm talking aboutcurrent President Joe Biden. And that's not
just me saying that. You goback and you listen to what a lot
of people said pre his election whenit came to the geopolitics at all,
when it came to He's indecision Joe, That's what he is. Makes no
decisions, wants to straddle the line. And I mean to well, you

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know, I made a big.You know on the Holocaust, remember its
day. I did all of thesethings, said all of these things,
were with you guys all the way, and then five minutes later it's like,
no, we're going to take thisstuff away from you. They're frustrated,
right, Fisher, cut bait.Make a decision. Do I want
to see innocent people dead? No? I don't do I want to see
Hamas stopped. That's an unequivocal yes, I do. And I think most

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of you listening do some of you, as I get text messages, you
don't you think Israel's the bad guyhere? You do? One person says,
without Amas attacking Israel, this wouldnever happen. Without Israel claiming land
when people already lived, this wouldnever happen. See how the facts worked,
dummy. By the way, twothousand and five Israel left remember Oh

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yeah, I remember that, theillegal settlements. It wasn't for that two
thousand and five. I mean,we can go back if you want to
get historic. Let's go all theway back after What about this used to
be the Automan Empire? Should wegive it back to them? We can't
find anybody from there. I mean, it's like this is insane. Everybody
wants to I got a new map, I got this, I got that.

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They've been offered eleven times to havea two state solution. Never in
the history has there been anybody whosays, no, we don't want that,
because it's not about the people ofquote unquote Palestine. It's not it's
about Hamas and their power and wherelike, yeah, we're going to help

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you, but only kind of sortit. Last night, Joe indecisive Joe
on with Aaron Purdett. I wantto ask you about something happening as we
sit here and speak, and that, of course, Israeli striking Rafa.
I know that you have paused,mister president, shipments of two thousand pounds
US bombs to Israel due to concernthat they could be used in any offensive

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on Rafa. Have those bombs beenused to kill civilians in Gaza? Civilians
have been killed in Gaza as aconsequence of those bombs and other ways in
which they go after population centers,and I made it clear that they go
into Rafa. I'm not supplying theweapons that have been used historically to deal

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with Rafa, to deal with thecities, to deal with that problem.
Nope, you're not going to doit. Not going to do it.
It's not going to supply those bombs, okay, but we're going to supply
a bunch of other things. Itis. And the frustration comes to from
a lot of people who get this, who aren't just you know, going
off what they saw on the TikTok, having an understanding of these things that

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even the people that are not fansof bb net and Yahoo understand, even
the New York Times that you gotto finish this with a moss. It
needs to come to an end.Any hope of a two state solution,
any hope of anything in the futurewhere there's any kind of peace, there
needs to be an end to hamasas horrible as it may be, to

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get to the place where there ispeace, there has to be an end,
because otherwise you're delaying another attack andmore civilian deaths. It's just wrong.
We're not going to supply the weaponsand the artillery shells use that have
been used artillery shells as well,Yeah, artillery shells. But I've made

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it clear to bb in the workcabinet they're not going to get our support
if in fact they're going these populations. We're not walking away from miserial security,
so it's not over your red lineyet. Yeah, we've held up
the weapons. We've held up theone shipment, and that shipment's an older
shipment, but it's something they saidthey need, and they're frustrated. And
what do they want. They wantinfluence over BBI and his cabinet. They

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do want some influence on Prime Ministernet and Yahoo and others in Israel,
and they haven't really gotten that.Month after month they said, no,
we're not going to consider that.Not anything we considered now. So you
really don't know what they will doin the future if this continues and the
US continues to be unhappy about it. And remember those protests. President Biden

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is getting a lot of pushback forthe US support of the war in Gaza,
and he is weighing that as well. Oh, because that's what's you.
You're weighing that. A lot ofprotests. They're not protesting the Wigers,
right, they're not pro who Bythe way, you want to talk
about slavery genocide like China's like,yeah, we're gonna work him to death

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and kill them. It's pretty muchwe're gonna film it the whole I'm more
doing at all. What do youthink of those apples? And they're like,
yes, but Palestine And they're like, well, they're Chinese, so
we don't really mess with them becauseyou know, we don't want to be
seen as racist. But over here, these are white people, so we
can be mad at them. They'renot at all talking about some of the
genocide and the attacks going on inplaces like Oh Africa, Chad, Great

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Nation. Not so much right now, me and mar I, mean,
we could talk about yem in itself. And he recognizes that this. You
know, Aaron Burnett told you theycalled you genocide Joe. Yeah, they
did. They called him genocide Joe. And he recognizes he needs the young.
But you know what, if youlook at the actual numbers, the
young don't care about this small,loud group that the media follows cares about

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it. The average person on acollege campus wants their degree, they want
to go out, they want towork, they want to live their life.
They aren't paying attention to this andthey don't care. Not that they
don't care across the board, theyjust have other issues in their life they're
dealing with. Three two, three, five, three eight twenty four to
twenty three at Chad Benson Show's yourtwitter tweet at his text the program coming
up. Amazing interview I did yesterdaywith a woman Mary Markat who's got a

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new book about trans ideology and detransitioning. It is incredible. It's a
great interview. It's a two partinterview. We're gonna do that straight ahead
Chad Benson Show, then Chad BensonShow, Independent Thoughts, Independent Life.

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This is benson new book out,a book that is I think been a
long time coming because of the insanitygoing on with the trans movement, slash
activism, slash cult. Joining usnow is the author of that book,
Mary Margaret d Trans True Stories ofEscaping the Gender Ideology Cult. And before
we jump into that, I sawyour tweet from an hour ago, and

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I do want to ask you thequestion, what is a gender queer witch
and what are they doing speaking aboutkids? Yeah, that is a great
question. One of my friends oftthe Daily Wire, one of their reporters
leave with covering this story where theywere talking about a gender queer witch that
was presenting to school children in Pennsylvania. I believe just a very strange story,

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one of many that we're seeing latelywhere these school districts are bringing in
complete and utter weirdos, frankly,to talk to kids about subject matters that
obviously should be up to their parentsto decide whether they're even hearing about them.
And it's these activist groups are facilitatingthese types of meetings like we see

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here in DC. These activist groupswork with the DC libraries, for example,
to bring drag queens from all overthe country to perform or read to
little kids. So it's just anotherweird and disturbing story. But kudos to
my friend leaf over at the DailyWire for his reporting because that is a
headline. I haven't seen it ina while. All right, now let's

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jump into the book because this needsto be talked to it. I have
said this for the last eight orten years that what is coming the absolute
fallout from this insanity of gender ideology. The doctors that have been put in
some cases and positions where they're goingto lose their license if they don't do
something, but they know in thefuture they're going to lose their license.

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It is a cult, and thed trans movement is happening. And the
minute you're not part of the cultanymore. It's like the mob, right,
you're blood in and blood out andthey'll get rid of you. Yeah.
It's really disturbing. And you know, these doctors are all behaving,
frankly, in a very cowardly mannerwhen it comes to these DE transitioners,

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because A they're performing these surgeries andprescribing these hormones to these kids. And
b once these young people realize thatthey shouldn't have transitioned, you know,
and obviously transitioned is impossible, sothey shouldn't have attempted to transition, and
that they're suffering mentally and physically,and they go back to the doctors seeking

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some kind of medical help to helpthem recover physically, and the doctors can't
do anything either because they don't knowhow or they don't want to. And
so we have kind of a crisisright now of DE transitioners seeking medical help
and can't find any. And thenmeanwhile, we don't even know the accurate
numbers on how many D transitioners thereare because such a low number of them

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actually go back to their doctors andtell them I regretted this transition an attempt.
And so you'll see in the mainmainstream media whenever they report on this
type of thing, they'll say veryfew people actually regret their transitions, and
they'll cite like old studies trying tosay that this is not a phenomenon and
that these these people like Luie Coleare outliers, which is not true.

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And we know it's not true bythe rising number of stories that are thankfully
being shared on social media, whichis where I found many of the d
transitioners who were in my book.Yeah, and the book is called d
trans True Stories of Escaping the GenderIdeology Cult. And it is a cult
because these kids get pushed. Wedid a story today about you know,

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this poor lady in Cordelaine, Idaho. She's like, my daughter goes off
to school, she comes back now, you know, she's in high school.
Now she wants me to call herFelix, like Felix the cat,
and she's you know, she's cuther hair and she's done all this and
the cult it almost feels like anabusive relationship where they want to separate you
from the people that know you,love you and care for you so they

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can control you. Yeah, andthat is an accurate way of putting it.
And I think another aspect of thecult like attitudes here is that this
gender ideology is treated very much likeour religion, so you can't even push
back. They'll tell young people likeChloe or Luca, any of the girls

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in my book, that if yourfamily doesn't affirm you, or if they
don't agree with you that you area boy, they hate you and they
want you dead. It's not justthat they dislike you or they disagree with
you, it's that they actively wantyour they want you to suffer. And
it's a horrible thing to say tosomeone, but it also is very cults
like, right, because we're tellinga young person your family hates you if

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they won't affirm this ideology that weall hold to be our religion. And
when the detransitioners come forward and sayI regretted this and I my experience has
been very hard for me and Iregret it, they're told that they are
hateful, They're told that they areliars, that they were never truly in
the circle. You know that theywere never truly part of the cult.

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And so all these behaviors are justvery symptomatic of a cult, I think,
and that was part of the reasonthat I used the word in my
subtitle because and I even asked thatthese transitioners, do you feel like this
is too far? And a bunchof them told me, no, we
think this is appropriate in this context. Absolutely. You know, so Mary
Market, you go out, you'retalking to all these people, and they're

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pushed into it, and there's allkinds of studies out about some of these
kids are autistic in a very majorway. I've dealt that with. This
is my own fifteen year old daughterwho and several of her friends. It
feels like they pick on a certaingroup of kids that they find that they
know they can eventually manipulate. Andto me, I find that scary and

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it's weird when Isaac get grown up. I'm fifty three. We had a
couple of gay kids, we knewwho they were, nobody was trans Now
it's like there's twelve at them atyour school. I find that to be
hard to believe. But I feellike they're picking them out like they would,
you know, if they're hunting andsaying, Okay, there's one we
can go with. Well, AndI think we need to make sure we

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talk about social contagion, which isa huge element of this, and Abigail
Shreier documented it really well in herbook Irreversible Damage. We've seen social contagion
in other aspects of in other decades. For example, when I was in
high school, many girls that Iknew were inorexic and that is absolutely something

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anorexia that is attributable to social contagion, where all these girls were making each
other feel like they were not skinnyenough, and then it became a mental
illness where they were just striving andstriving and striving to become skinnier and kind
of aiding and abetting each other's mentalhealth issues. There in the same way,
these young people are causing one anotherto become gender dysphoric. And obviously

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this partially starts with the school counselorsor the school teachers that are introducing these
concepts, or with the social mediacontent that they're consuming. But it is
very normal for multiple young people inthe same social circles to be identifying as
trands together because it's a social thing, and that makes it all the more

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disturbing. How much the social media, because I think it plays a huge
part. How much that when youdelve into your book that you look and
go. Social media is you know, along with again your friends and your
friend group and the social contagent,but social media itself, how much of
that is playing a part in thisIt's playing a huge role. I mean,
all the de transitioners I talked toencountered this type of content online,

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the gender ideology content online, andthey all felt that it really fast tracked
their gender transitions and made them,you know, feel that they belonged in
this community. And that's where theywere meeting a lot of the LGBTQ advocates
or transgender advocates that we're telling them, yes, you're trans, and you

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know, they talked about encountering thistype of thing on Instagram, on Tumblr,
on snapchat, Reddit, just prettymuch every social media platform that you
can think of, and in particular, I think Instagram was very hard for
these girls because they're being shown onall these representations of womanhood on Instagram,

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you know, which we already knowis incredibly hard for young women who are
going through puberty or are first learningabout friendships and relationships to see all these
perfect images and in a word,to have fomo about other people's lives that's
already been shown the Instagram is destroyingthe mental health of girls all over the

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world. And then when you addinto that the element of gender ideology and
little girls being a afraid to bea woman based on these representations they're seeing
on social media and then being toldmaybe it's because you're a guy. It's
it's too easy for these activists topray on young people who are already nervous
and going through puberty and not reallysure what to think. That is part

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one if my interview with Mary Marketabout her new book Coming Back, We're
going to have part two. Itwas a great interview, went for a
long time, and I'm telling you, guys, right now, what is
coming. These detransitioning, this thisexperimenting on young kids. I think the
reckoning of what is coming is comingfaster than people realize. And I think
we're going to look back at thistime and think, oh my god,

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what the hell happened? How didwe get here? How did adults allow
this to happen? You might havea part two interview with Mary Market about
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of Escaping the Gender ideology cult.We're going to talk to her about why
is it mostly young girls that getcaught up in this It's a chat Benson

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jail, hashtag me too, hashtagimmigration reforms, hashtag help, I'm trapped
in a hashtag factory and I can'tget out. The Chat Benson Show talking
to Mary. Margaret spoke to heryesterday. She got a new book out

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called Detrans True Stories of Escaping theGender Ideology Cult. One of the things
I wanted to talk to her aboutis, yes, there are some males
that do this, but the vastmajority of the males aren't in high school.
Aren't young kids a little bit older, college and even older, but
the young women in particular middle schooland beyond. Why is it that young
women are getting caught up in thisgender ideology cult. Well, that's something

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that Abiel Shier really gets into,and she talks about how pervasive social contagent
is with girls, Like if younotice the example I used earlier with anorexia,
anarexia was, you know, thereare certainly men that struggle with it,
but it was predominantly a phenomenon withgirls in their high school years.
And I think in the same way, we've seen a social contagion with gender

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ideology and transgenderism with girls, andAbigail Shreier would be much better able to
articulate this than I am. Butwhat I've heard and from the conversations that
I've had with these day transitioners,is that a lot of it has to
do with a search for identity anda search for wanting to know who you
are and establish yourself as someone inour culture, which kind of requires you

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to like have something, you know, something going on that makes you special
and different, stand out from everybodyelse. And unfortunately, transgender ideology does
offer this unique situation, even froma political angle. When you are a
white, straight a girl who isstraight and who is white, you don't
have a lot to make you standout. But when you are a transgender

(31:00):
boy and you're a you know,theoretically you're a minority that is persecuted.
That gives you a whole bunch ofidentity that you didn't have before. And
that's something that Helen At, oneof the girls in my book, talks
about. So I think there's alot of factors going into it, but
especially this desire for identity and adesire to be someone and a terror of

(31:26):
a terror of what it actually meansto be a woman, because many of
these girls are seeing pornography at anearly age. They're seeing really overly sexualized
images of women and femininity and womanhood, and they don't know how to actually
be a woman, and they're afraidof these representations that they're seeing, and
so an easy option is to justnot be a woman, to not have

(31:51):
breasts, for example, to geta double misseectomy. And also there's many
of these girls have experienced some kindof sexual assault, and so when you're
afraid of your femininity, a veryeasy solution is to just reject it completely.
And that's unfortunately what we're seeing ina lot of these cases. What
about like what's the push for teachers, for doctors, what's the push behind

(32:14):
else? To me, I look, I think it's evil and it's child
to push if you're getting If Itook my son to get steroids, people
lose lose their mind. If Itook my son to get a tattoo he's
thirteen, people lose his mind.If I took him to get hormone blockers,
people cheer, cheer on. What'sthe insanity of this cult? Like
behind it. Where's it coming from? Well, a lot of it is

(32:35):
coming from these activist groups who havebeen working for years to subvert our culture
and to change the way that wetalk to our children about sexuality and human
dignity. You know, there isa strong push to introduce sexual topics to
children at a very young age,when most kids should never have even heard

(32:55):
of some of these things. Andlet's keep in mind, like when we're
talking about how kids deciding they wantto transition, the very nature of these
topics is sexual and that's disturbing.When a little girl who has never even
held a boy's hand is starting totell people that she identifies as a boy,
and she's being given hormones and talkingabout surgeries to fix her sexual preferences

(33:20):
and make them match what she's interestedin, all of that is incredibly disturbing
and twisted. No little girl shouldever be having these kinds of things discussed
at all. So there's a veryperverted element to this push for children to
be involved in any of these conversations, and especially the media's attempts to twist

(33:42):
all of this as well, theway they frame, for example, Florida's
Parental Rights and Education Bill which issupposed to just prohibit teachers from talking about
inappropriate content in the classroom. Theywhipped it into a media frenzy and made
it into the don't say Gay bill. Well, that bill never even said
gay in it. It's purely abouttalking about sexual topics in the classroom.

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Media does the same thing when itcomes to Bill's protecting kids from transgender surgeries,
hormones, and puberty blockers. They'llsay they'll say that the Republicans are
trying to ban trans care or they'retrying to ban gender reforming care for trans
youth. Well, that's a lie, first of all, it's not care,
and it's a media lie that theycan continue to use at the behest

(34:27):
of these activist groups. So there'sa lot going on there, and I
think that the media is entirely complicitin it. And these activist groups are
in a great situation right now wherethey really can get their message wherever they
want. All right, Mary Margaret, it's a crazy time. We could
talk about this for hours. Whatdo you want people to take away from
the book itself? I want peopleto read these stories that are the real

(34:50):
stories of the transitioners. I wantthem to read them and understand what these
young girls and men have gone through, and to carry those stories with them
so that the next time they encountersomeone that's describing gender affirming care, they're
equipped to say, actually, Iknow some first hand accounts of people who
have been through this, and thisis not what we are being told that

(35:13):
it is. And my hope iskind of that someone will pick up this
book and read these stories, andthat might not be interested in conservative commentary,
and then see these stories and understandthe realities of what they're going through.
And you know, the D transitionersstay, there's life after D transition.
They're all. They're all using theirstories and their accounts to spread awareness,

(35:34):
and they're they're going out and testifyingto state lawmakers and speaking. So
they're amazing people, and I thinkthey are the stories to start to be
told. And I'm hoping too thatother young people who are considering getting into
this gender ideology will see these storiesand read them and maybe change their minds.

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Absolutely. The book D trans TrueStories of Escaping the Gender Ideaology cults.
Mary Marka. I appreciate you comingon today, and hopefully we'll have
you on soon for more pop cultureand other stuff. Thank you, thanks
so much for having me three two, three, five, three eight,
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(36:15):
Benson Show, Independent Thoughts, independentlife, this is Chad Benson. Well,

(36:45):
after a recess yesterday. Remember whenyou were a kid and you used
to go to recess. Oh soawesome. So what I tell my kids,
enjoy it. Enjoy it because whenyou get older, it's just a
break. Recess was great. Yesterday. There was a recess in the trial.
Oh what trials this one? Chad? Is it the sex scandal trial?

(37:08):
You mean the bizarre like financial thingpaperwork misdemeanor that turned into a federal
felony, but nobody can point towhy it's a felony. But it has
nothing to do with sex trial.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that

(37:29):
yeah, that's gonna resume today.The New York case charging Trump with falsifying
business records tied to a twenty sixteenhush payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels
may be the only one that reachesa verdict. Before the election, Daniels
testified in explicit detail about an allegedsexual encounter with Trump that he said never
happened, down to the silk orsatin pajamas she said he wore, and

(37:50):
the imbalance of power, she saidexisted between them. Oh, for God's
sakes, let's go over this again. You, an adult, went to
Lake Tahoe for the biggest party ofmost sporting events during the year, when
celebrities of all makes and models,from rock stars to newspeople, to baseball

(38:17):
players, hockey players, basketball players, to actors and actresses. We can
go on and on and on aboutwho goes there, and it is chaos
and craziness. You went there,Why were people clamoring for Stormy Daniels.

(38:38):
No, you went there to party, have fun and who knows, and
you had sex with a guy.You went to his room. He didn't
drag you, he didn't drug you, he didn't hit you over the head
take you off like a caveman.None of that stuff happened. You had

(38:58):
sex, and then you got paidto not talk about it, of which
everybody knows about it. Let's notforget. I like to point out she
still owes him lots of money.So going to point that out. She
still owes him lots of money,and you tried to profit off of it
as well. But she's she's not. The Left will come at it if

(39:22):
she's some virtuous, innocent person,but she's not. She knew what was
going on, she knew what shedid. But it's still irrelevant. But
today, well today, it's gonnabe a tough day for her. It's
gonna be tough. It's gonna betough. Got a lot of fodder to
go after. She's been inconsistent inher accounts of exactly what happened. She's

(39:44):
got a lot of animus against DonaldTrump. She's had lawsuits with Donald Trump.
There's a lot of material there forthem to go over. And you
know, I think that she isgoing to certainly be a wounded witness by
the time that they finished with her. By the time they've finished with her,
oh she's seen the finish line before, if you know what I mean.
I don't think that's very nice.Yet, Oh goodness me, today

(40:07):
she's gonna get the gaffl of justice. It's not very nice, you know,
all kidding aside, she just wantsto be left alone. I mean,
you tried to profit off this youtried. You hate Donald Trump.
You've tweeted this out. You've talkedabout dancing when he goes to jail.
You called him the orange turd,the orange trd. You've said all kinds

(40:29):
of things about him. I'm sureif she looks back at this, she
just wishes this would all go away. But it's not going to and she's
gonna, you know if I Imean today, if then it's just me,
it's like and you know again TrumpTrump wants I'm sure his people destroyer
to hammer. Uh. I wouldjust say, look, you got paid

(40:54):
right, yeah, did you havesex yeah? You said in the past
you haven't, but you have hadsex with him, yes, and didn't
drug you It was none of thatstuff. You did get money? Yeah,
Okay, thank you, We're done. What because still it's it's irrelevant.
The other day herbing on stand wasirrelevant. They had an NDA,

(41:17):
it's been signed. That's all thatanybody needs to know the details. All
that other stuff irrelevant, And todayI would just say, did you have
an NDA with him? Yes?Did you sign it yes? Did they
put a gun to your head tosign it? No? Did you get
money from it? Yes? Fantastic? Thank you? So very much.
You can step down. That's it. Now there is another trial in Georgia,

(41:40):
and yesterday Trump was kind of handeda mini victory. A Georgia appeals
court agreed to hear Trump's argument thatFulton County District Attorney Fani Willis should be
disqualified over her romance with her formerspecial prosecutor, Nathan Wade. Willis had
strongly defended herself. Judge Scott McAfeeruled Willis could stay if Wade resigned,
which he did. But now thePeels Court will consider Trump's claim that Willis

(42:01):
should go to almost certainly delaying anytrial past the election. And I look
this whole thing with Fannie Willis,if you will, I don't know how
real this is even getting off theground because it was a Rico case,
right, So that's like when theygo after the mob right, they can't

(42:24):
they look at you all as agroup, and that's what they've done here.
And Rico cases take years. Iwatch all the Mobster shows. It's
like they they indicted them on youknow it September twenty seventh, two thousand
and three, and the trial started, you know, October of two thousand
and seven. So Rico cases takea while because you're trying to bring a

(42:49):
group of people in and try them, and nobody did something, but everybody
did something for some it's like it'sa tough thing. And then you throw
in thisziness and chaos, and youalso throw in the animis that she has
towards Donald Trump, and you know, we can go on and on about
this, so I don't know ifthis is going to get off the ground
anytime soon either. And then you'vegot the documents case, which is delayed,

(43:13):
so you start adding it up,kids, and what you have is
there is a chance, like analmost one hundred percent certain chance that the
only trial that Trump will see isthe one that's going on currently right now
in New York, which is anabsolute joke, and that it should never

(43:35):
have happened. Now, if youwant to talk about the Mario Lago case,
I've told you guys that I thinkthe obstruction side of that is a
very real situation you can look at. And as far as the election interference
in DC, nobody's even talking aboutthat because they still have to wait to
find out what the immunity side isgoing to be and how they rule based
on that. May be an issuethat that thing may never see the light

(43:57):
of day. And then before anyof that stuff happened, we could have
an election. And for the mostpart it's over and done with, so
we'll see what takes place here.But there's no doubt that this is not
going the way that I think alot of people were hoping it was going
to go. Now, the contemptside of thing is always interesting because so
many people want Trump to go tojail. I read an article today and

(44:20):
what I've talked about. First ofall, there's no where they're going to
put him, you know, MayorAdams. So at President Trump's trial,
they were talking about how he mightend up in jail if he continues to
violate its court orders. As rankersprepared for that. Our amazing commissioner,
she is prepared for whatever comes onReiker's Island. I'm pretty sure she would

(44:43):
be prepared to manage and deal withthe situation. We have to adjust,
you know, in this business,particularly around law enforcement, we have to
adjus whatever comes our way. Butyou know, we don't want to deal
with a hypothetical. But they're professionals, they'll be ready. Yeah, it's
not gonna happen. Und rykers arenot doing any of this stuff. And
you know, the people are excitedbecause they take it up as if it's

(45:06):
going to happen, and it's not. And there would be a First Amendment
issue in there as well that needsto be talked about. And the other
side of his you've got what thirtyforty Secret Service people wandering around that's just
with guns. So they said,at best or worst, depending on how
you look at it is he wouldget maybe an hour or two in a
room like he's on restriction, right, like he's on a timeout. It's

(45:29):
not happening. He would like itto happen, even if it's for twelve
hours, because it's it's good forthe brand. Speaking of the brand,
we'll talk about Marjorie Taylor Green.The motion to vacate yesterday happened and that
went over like a fort in anelevator. It was stinky, but eventually
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(47:00):
Show declaring the Office of Speaker ofthe House Representatives to be vacant. Oh
my god. MTG. Marjorie TaylorGreen Booooooooooo boooo, she's mad at Mike
Johnson boo resolved that the office ofthe Speaker of the House of Representatives is

(47:24):
hereby declared to be vacant. Booooo, still boo, why are we mad
at him? Now? Whereas MikeJohnson is ill equipped to handle the rigors
of the job of Speaker of theHouse and has allowed a unit party,
one that fuels foreign wars, trampleson civil liberties, and increases our disastrous

(47:45):
national debt. Boo boom. MarjorieTaylor Green boom, Mike Johnson boo boo,
boo boo. It's all about her. And I know I'm going to
get a bunch of crap for thisbecause some of you out there, like
you know, I criticize Christine Omfor how dare you criticize her for lying
in her books? Somebody texted andsaid, do you think Ai wrote it?

(48:07):
I said, well, even ifAI wrote it, the editor should
have caught it. And she readthe book herself for the audiobook, so
she should have known. Huh.I don't know who this is about.
But they met Kim Jong un.How amazing is that? One? More
from MTG. Whereas Speaker Johnson reliedon majority Democrats support to pass a two

(48:29):
part Omnibus spending bill rather than advancinga policy agenda supported by conference consensus.
There you go, good times.How did he feel well? Hello?
Everyone, It's just another Wednesday onCapitol Hill. I want to say that
I appreciate the show of confidence frommy colleagues to defeat this misguided effort.

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That is certainly what it was.As I've said from the beginning, and
I've made clear here every day,I intend to do my job. I
intend to do what I believe tobe the right thing, which is what
I was elected to do, andI'll let the chips fall where they may.
In my view, that is leadership. Yeah, that's what that is.
Is leadership. But Chad, look, she's got a few legitimate arguments.

(49:15):
They could be made Marjorie Taylor Green. But here's my issue with this
across the board. It's not aboutthe issue. It is not about where
there's real disagreement. It is aboutthe person bringing it up. There's a
great article saying you got played.Republicans blame the media for Marjorie Taylor Green's

(49:42):
fervor. One person said, ifthe media coverage is power. She's pretty
powerful right now. She's one ofthe most powerful people in Washington. Why
because it's about her, mister Loloda. On both sides of the aisle,
there are too many show ponies,and I know for workhorses. Beside and
behind me are some serious members ofthe Republican Conference who came here to govern,

(50:04):
who came here to fix issues onthe border, fix issues on inflation.
We remain focused on those issues,and we will not be distracted by
Marjorie Taylor Green and this waste oftime motion to vacate that will not have
the support. Too many members ofCongress are here to seek attention for themselves,
not here to represent constituents and representthe country. There are serious issues
that deserve the country's attention, thatdeserve the Congress's attention. Yeah, one

(50:29):
hundred percent. Again show ponies.Too many people are interested in what they're
doing. In this article, theytalk about the fact and this is what
we've talked about over and over again. Not only is it about them,
it's about what they can get outof it. And she's raising tons of
money. She's raising tons of moneyoff of this. If there wasn't the

(50:51):
how many people would care right andpay and continue to go through this.
If it was you're beating a deadhorse and nobody's paying attention. If you
get the attention like a child,people are going to show up, and
you know, like so by thatI mean the viewers, because you're going
almost going on over there. I'mfrustrated. She brings up some serious issues

(51:15):
about the foreign wars and the moneywe're spending in certain places and the Omnibus
Bill, but all that aside,you're not doing it because I think this
real concern. It's about you.It's about you, and you drag this
out as long as you possibly could. I'm gonna do it next week.
I'm gonna do it here. I'mgonna do it there. Seven weeks,

(51:36):
she's done this. They're asking theimpossible. They refuse to vote for a
rule and which means you have tobring things to the floor without either with
democratic support, and then when youget democratic support, then they get mad
at you for getting democratic support.We all wish we could have a larger
conservative majority. We wish we hadthe Senate, we wish we had the
presidency. We do not have anyof those things. A lot of the

(51:57):
same people that are frustrated in dealingwith all of this, have had the
opportunity to do these things and moveforward. And the reality of this is
this is like the congressional version ofa temper tantrum. Yeah, Tim Burchard
said, uh, you got playedinstead. Green has got a whole bunch
of publicity. She was flanked bydozens of members of the press right as

(52:17):
she's walking out, all to sayshe had no new updates. Every meeting
and every planned phone call between Greenand Johnson has become a story and in
itself. Over the last several weeks, the press corps convinced themselves they must
cover every finite development despite everyone coveringit knowing they're a willful participant in furthering

(52:38):
her brand. Fellow Georgia Rep.Rich McCormick said, the media is absolutely
doing what MTG wants with its intense, every moment coverage of distitiation. When
more seats, you'll have more opportunityto do things. And if not,

(52:59):
this this is what the world lookslike when you have to compromise. And
what we're really doing and what they'rereally allowing to happen, is for the
Democrats to coalesce on issues that weare invited on Ukraine's a perfect example.
I disagreed with the Speaker on theUkraine vote. But the reason we don't
have we aren't allowed to bring amendmentsto that is because we have people in
our party that sank the rule fiftyfive of them, which gets us to

(53:20):
a point where we have to bewhere we're at. If Mike Johnson is
not thoughtful enough and not conservative enoughto be the Speaker of the House,
then we have real problems because they'rein anybody else that's going to be acceptable
for that job. And on topof that, there isn't going to be
anybody who wants that job because alot of these people that want to to
get rid of the Speaker, Inever see them throw their name in the

(53:42):
hat. Ever, maybe they should, and maybe you should give them the
job, whether they want it ornot, so they can get a sense
of what's going on. Three two, three, five, eight, twenty
four to twenty three At Chad BensonShows Your Twitter, it is the Chad
Benson Show, Such Chad Benson Show, Independent Thoughts, Independent Life. This

(54:30):
is Chad Benson The Stalker. Marthathe center of the Netflix drama Baby Reindeer,
Please. The woman the character issupposedly based on, is speaking out.
The show comes from Richard Gadd andhis alleged dealings with an obsessed woman,
and now Fiona Harvey will have hersay. Being interviewed Thursday by Piers
Morgan on his show Uncensored on socialmedia, he says she wants to quote,
set the record straight. Set therecord straight. So if you don't

(54:53):
know what Baby Reindeer is show onNetflix, it's a hit. Talking to
my uncle about it yesterday because wehave in our queue and my wife's been
gone for a couple of days,you might watch it, he says,
Dude. There's some twists, there'ssome turns, but wow. So Martha,
who is quote unquote the name ofthe lady that they use in the

(55:16):
show, She's gonna come out andspeak now. She apparently from everything I
can say, she was arrested,she was sentenced to five years probation and
nine months in jail, and shewas well. She had issues over four

(55:36):
and a half years. She sentforty one thousand emails three hundred and fifty
one hundred hours, so not threehundred and fifty voicemails, three hundred and
fifty three hundred and fifty hours,hundreds of hours of voicemails, seven hundred
and forty four tweets, forty sixFacebook messages, one hundred and six pages

(55:59):
of letters, and a variety ofweird gifts, including a reindeer toy,
sleeping bills, and a wooly hatand boxer shorts. This is based on
this guy's Richard Gadd his One personplay about this person stalking him. And
so she's gonna come out and say, hey, you know what I didn't
do? You know, she's she'ssupposed to set the record straight on what

(56:20):
took place. Forty one thousand emailsover four and a half years, three
hundred and fifty hours of voicemails.That's a lot of voicemails. Could we
just be honest with that? Howmany of you have three hundred and fifty
voicemails, let alone hours of voicemails. So I'm gonna watch it this weekend.
I got the next couple days offMonday as well as tomorrow. But

(56:43):
we're gonna watch it. But myuncle, some twisting turns in this that
are you don't see coming. Let'sjust put it that way. But she
like like in the trailer, sheoriginally tells him because he's like a bartender
and a comedian, that she worksfor all these major players in the political
world, like you know, TonyBlair and all of these like super powerful

(57:07):
political people. But then he's like, she couldn't afford a cup of tea,
So it's just it's bizarre. ButI like weird. Speaking of weird,
who's hungry? Hah? Anybody becauseit's that time of the year,
Brooklyn, New York chef Joseph Yuntells The New York Times he'll use the
bugs and everything from timpura to kimchi to casse roles. He says he

(57:28):
thinks of cicadas. It's just anotheringredient like shrimp or lobster. In fact,
they are as closely related to thosecrustaceans that the FDA says people with
allergic reactions to shellfish shouldn't consume Otherwise, scientists say it's perfectly safe to eat
the periodical bugs, even though someprefer them right after they emerge from their
eggsoskeletons and squishy things, and otherssay it's better to wait a little longer

(57:49):
when they have more of a crunch. I prefer them just straight as bugs
that I don't eat. That's whatI prefer. And that whole shell thing
is interesting because I remember my buddyAndy Hawk and I we went to when
I worked in radio and Sacramento.We did an event at like six Flags,
like Haunted Nights. And it's notlike, you know, it's a

(58:13):
big deal. It's cool to thinkhaunted houses, that and the other.
But one of the things was youcould skip the line if you need a
cockroach, but you had to signall this stuff. And if you're allergic
to shellfish because of the shells,you couldn't eat these. So I didn't
eat any cockroaches. I'm just gonnalet bugs be bugs. I know some
people think it's the future. Ido not. I don't think it's the

(58:37):
future. And I'm not gonna eatany bugs. And I don't care what
you make it taste like. I'mnot eating a bug. It's just there's
some First of all, I alreadyeat like a five year old, and
you would think, well, fiveyear old's probably eat bugs. Yeah,
but I was a weird five yearold because I just wasn't. I mean,
I ate an aunt once, butnot because I wanted to, but
I was dared, and you know, you gotta do the dare of the
cicadas. I'm drawing the line onthat one who's hungry will continue to starve

(59:00):
until they meet our dumm In addition, I would like to note that the
administration is also lying to the media. To the media, they have announced
that they have been consistently sending theirown doctors to come to our area and
monitor us hunger strikers and monitor ourhealth. This is a lie. They

(59:22):
are not monitoring our health. Theyare not keeping track of our vitals.
They are not at all taking careof us in any regard. Uh eat
something. Why is it their jobto take care of you? Isn't it
just well because the lawsuits. Butisn't this your issue right here? You

(59:44):
want to hunger strike for Palestine anddo all these things, that's that's your
jam. Go ahead and do it. I understand that, you know,
people are worried about the look andif some kid died because of a hunger
strikeing, oh well, it wouldbe great. Right. It's the market
for the for the car who wantsto martyr for the cause, not that
people who want to push you todo stuff. If you've not seen the

(01:00:05):
video, I think it's on limbsof TikTok, but it's everywhere at Emory
University. There's drone footage and it'sgreat drone footage, almost like they shot
their own drone footage of activists whoare not part of the school, teaching
these kids how to march, howto block entrances and exits, how to
like they're part of the three hundred, and they're getting the shields together.

(01:00:27):
It is crazy they're being taught thesethings. Continue, hungry person. They
have only sent a spokesperson from UHStwice to give us informational pamphlets. But
they are not at all at alltaking care of us in any regard.
And I want to make that veryclear that they are not caring for us,
that they do not care for us, and they are lying, they're

(01:00:51):
lying liars. Just eat something,please, just do it. Enough of
this chaos, enough of this craziness. I don't I love the free speech
stuff. I'm an absolute free speechperson. Hate speech is the only speech

(01:01:13):
that's protected because if you like thespeech, then you know. But when
you the problem I have with itis is it's the hypocrisy because again,
if you're anti Semitic to a Jewon a campus, high five, right,
Like, we're all good with this, right as long as you are
doing it for Palestine. Like ifyou're a white supremacist, well then that's
out. Talking to my friend theother day, who he does crazy things

(01:01:40):
on the interwebs, let's just saycontroversial at times, he said, He
goes, I'm thinking about getting aNazi uniform and going and standing with these
kids film it, and yeah,we're all talking about the same thing,
right, And he's Jewish, bythe way, because his whole thing is

(01:02:00):
to point out the hypocrisy of thisinsanity. And I'm like, dude,
you should totally do that. Hegoes, Oh, yeah, I'm thinking
about it because I want to seetheir reaction when you know, he says,
he's chanting from the river to thesea and all of this stuff.
He wants to see their reaction becausewell, hold on a second, we're
allowed to, but you're not,because we're doing it in a in a

(01:02:22):
reasonable way. You're doing out ofmeanness a portion. How's it? Just
see the way I just went rightthere? Check this out. Hello,
Hi, this is Sarah, aconstituent. How are you good. Hey,
I'm just calling in with my dailyuterus update. So if you want

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to grab a note pad to takenotes, we can get started. Awesome.
So I'm having a little light spotting, nothing to be concerned with.
I know that the senator is anexpert on uteruses, so he might have
some idea, so if he wantsto let me know. And then also,
Sarah, yes, I think it'sa little bit inappropriate to be telling

(01:03:06):
me about this. Oh come on, man, I'd be like, oh,
really, well, have you thoughtabout seeing h rather than calling a
senator's office, maybe getting a secondfinion from a doctor. I mean,
you call Ram Paul. He's adoctor, but I don't know what he's
going to be able to do dowith it. She's continuing, I think
this might be more of a conversationfor your doctor. You know, that's

(01:03:28):
what I think too. But thefact that your boss wants to regulate my
uterus makes me think that he wantsto hear about my uterus. So Sarah,
I'm going to have to end thephone call. Oh that's such a
bomber that you hate women, Buthave the weekend you deserve. Bye?
You hate women? There's a goto right there kids. You hate women,

(01:03:50):
ma'am? Can you describe your uterus? So made Jad three two three,
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A lot of am of me talkerand talk to about Hey, Zack Abram,
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year, plus the new report aboutsocial security? How much longer does it
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the program. I'm gonna hit youright away and I'll tell you why because
I've got several people to texted emailthis week said you got to ask Zach
about this. The Social Security it'sgonna go bankrupt. We all know it.
People are freaking out about it alreadybecause as they what the third rail

(01:06:00):
of politics? Right, you don'ttouch the third rail of politics. But
with people retirement, Zach, thisis what you do. This is your
wheelhouse. Put people's minds at ease, that you know what, there are
other ways of going about and relyingon the government to cover everything. Yeah,
well, first and foremost, likewe tell our clients all the time,
are they going to make adjustments toSocial Security? Most likely? They

(01:06:23):
certainly need to. But the waythey're going to do that, we got
to keep in mind that we livein a democracy. These people have to
get re elected. Okay, Soyou don't do that by cutting grandma's Social
Security benefit by twenty five percent.So that's not going to happen. If
they do it, there's going tobe a we've seen examples of this in
the past. They're going to doit with a grandfather clause, meaning it

(01:06:45):
probably won't impact anybody unless they're underthe age of fifty. Okay, So
hey, b guys, we gotto adjust ourselves to the world we are
living in Okay, it's not aboutus not being able to afford. It
wen't been able to afford what we'repaying out for forty years. Okay,
We're going to print the money.The question is not are you going to

(01:07:06):
get a Social Security check? Thequestion is what's it going to be worth
when you do? And that's wherepeople need to They need to understand that
we are not living in your grandparents'world. We went off the gold standard
in seventy one, and we havetaken full advantage of that in the last
five to really the last fifteen years. Okay, but it's not going to

(01:07:29):
happen. We are on a permanalpath. Now that terminal path could take
decades, but there's no going back. We're not going to see balanced budgets
again. It's not going to happen. You're not going to see our debt
get paid off. The only wayour debt gets paid off in this country
is if the Federal Reserve prints abunch of money and buys it. There
is no return to normal from here, so you'll get your solid security checks.

(01:07:50):
The question is just what will itbe? Will it buy you a
can of soup? Or will itbe a car payment. That's the question.
I understand the concern. I understand the consternation, but what we
really need to focus on again isdon't worry about that. Worry about how
your other assets are positioned and howyou can offset the deleterious impacts of inflation.

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Because if you think it's the stockmarket, go look at the stock
market from nineteen sixty six to nineteeneighty one. It went nowhere for fifteen
years and inflation averaged nine percent.Okay, that doesn't sound that bad,
but when you do the math onthat, if you average nine percent inflation
for fifteen years and your assets don'tgrow, that is a loss of purchasing

(01:08:36):
power that is commensurate to the losssuffered by people from the collapse of the
market. From nineteen twenty nine tonineteen thirty two, you had an eighty
five percent drop in the market.You add up that stat no growth in
nine percent inflation, you're looking atan eighty five to ninety percent drop and
you're purchasing power. So I understandthe concern about social security, but you're

(01:08:58):
looking at the wrong bullet. Thebullet that's going to get you it's where
your other assets are positioned, andso many people after the longest and biggest
bull market in US history, you'relike, well, I'm just going to
keep my money in Apple and Googlekeep riding the stock market. The stock
market ain't going to keep doing whatit's been doing, guys, And you
can take it to that, youcan take it to the bank. Zach
Abrahm, Chief investment Officer, BoardCapital Joints the program, Uh, what's

(01:09:20):
your sense in the second half ofthe year that the market's going to do?
Is we you know, as welook at you know, obviously we've
got an election, all of thisstuff. What's your sense of where we're
going? Is it a bull run? Because I feel like people are starting
to get uneasy again. Well,it's you're in a really interesting setup right
now because you are starting to seesome signs of economics slowing. Okay,

(01:09:43):
and I think some of the signsof that slowing are actually a reduction in
credit card debt. We're going tolook into that data. But if it's
like other times, that's not becausepeople are paying it down, it's because
companies aren't extending it. Right,That's very different. Okay. Then on
top of that, I look atthese three companies, Starbucks, Nike,

(01:10:03):
and Apple. All of them haveseen profit and revenue decreases, especially here
in the United States, over thepast year and a half. Those are
pretty bell weather consumer type stocks.Right. It covers apparel, it covers
food and beverages, and it coversthe most important and widely owned appliance in

(01:10:27):
the world, the smartphone. Right, So you're seeing signs of weakness.
Will that equate to a big marketdrop before the election? I think it's
going to equate to some volatility,But as soon as that volatility hits,
the Fed's going to cut rates.Right, They're going to do everything they
can to jimmy this thing up beforethe election. So I don't really I

(01:10:47):
don't expect I expect wild swings.I expect craziness. I expect big drops
followed by big rallies. Truthfully,if you were to put a gun to
my head, I would say betweennow and the election, the chances are
for a mild reduction to maybe ayou know, maybe a ten to you
know, I'd say negative five tomaybe ten to fifteen percent upside, depending

(01:11:10):
on how these different things play out. But I think the real story is
going to be what happens after theelection, because we say, we talk
about those signs of slowing and they'recertainly there, but the government is still
lighting money on fire. Yeah,and because of that, I just think
you're not going to get some youknow, bottom dropping out of things just

(01:11:30):
because there's two trillions still being pumpedin by the way of deficis spending and
that's not going to slow down.Nope. Is an e Zach Abrampchi investment
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how we do it differently. Thisis what it will cost you let us
know if you'd like to do it. And that's great. So yeah,
ob I love that. All Right, you go have a good one and
we'll talk to you next week.All right, thanks for having me on.
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LC and SEC Registered investment advisor.Chad Benson Chat. This is the
Chad Benson Show, Independent Thoughts,Independent Life. This is Chad Benson.

(01:13:15):
What will be a bigger issue comeNovember? Now? I want to point
this out if there isn't a blackSwan event? Okay, So what's going
to be a bigger issue? Isit going to be the geopolitical side of
stuff with Israel and Ukraine? Isit going to be the economy? As
of right now? To me,it is the economy. Last night,

(01:13:39):
President of these here, United Statesof America, Joseph Varbide is his name,
Robinette sat down with Aaron Burnette.She smelled delicious. So when you
talk about the economy, of course, it is by far the most important
issue for voters. Voters by awide margin, trust Trump more on the
economy. Part of the reason forthat may be the numbers. Because of

(01:14:00):
being a home in the United Statesis double what it was. When you
look at your monthly costs from beforethe pandemic, real income when you account
for inflation, is actually down sinceyou took office. Consumer confidence, maybe
no surprise, is near a twoyear low with less than six months to
go to election day. Are youworried that you're running out of time to
turn that around? We've already turnedaround. Look you look at the Michigan

(01:14:23):
survey for sixty five percent of Americanpeople think they're in good shape economically.
I think the nation's not in goodshape, but they're personally in good shape.
The polling data has been wrong allalong. So the polling data is
wrong all along. Rhymed. Okay, And by the way, the Michigan
survey, we'll get to what's goingon with Israel and Hamas and Palestine and

(01:14:48):
all of that stuff, because thatalso plays into Michigan. But it's a
weird economy. We've said this.You've got to approach it in two different
ways. And it's not the havesand have nots. That's that's every economy,
good, bad, or and different. That's every economy. It's always
good to people that are halves.It's always good to people in their minds

(01:15:09):
their have nots and never will gets. And then the vast majority of people
are in the middle. But thiseconomy is different because the what you would
look at and say, they're thehalves. And I'm not talking about the
ultra ethey. I'm talking about thetwo fifty one hundred and fifty thousand earners.
Those people like that. They're strugglingas well as everybody else. And

(01:15:30):
the two different economies is you asan individual, your workplace, you're like,
things are okay right, whether youown a business, you work somewhere,
you feel good for the most part, you settled. It's when you
take off as I like to saythat, you know, producer, employee,

(01:15:50):
owner hat of whatever it is,widget maker, and you put on
the consumer hat. That's when peoplefeel it. Let me say it this
way. When I started this administration, people were saying they're going to be
a collapse in the economy. Wehad the strongest economy and the world.

(01:16:13):
We say it again, in theworld. Although GDP last week was far
short of expectations, oh it wasn't. Look GDP is still grow. Look
the response to the markets overwhelmingly positive. And one of the reasons why people
feel good about it not being asstrong as it was before is they believe
that the Fed's going to respond.They hope they're going to get a right
cut. Yeah. No, President'shad the run we've had in terms of

(01:16:33):
creating jobs and bringing down on fishing. It was nine percent when I came
to office. Yeah, we're notgetting rate cut anytime soon. We just
talked to our buddy Zach a Ramlast hour about that we're not getting a
rate cut at least right now.Maybe by the end of the year we
may get one, but it dependson how things go. And this goes

(01:16:56):
into a lot of different things,including the cost of housing. You've got
so many people out there who wouldlike to have a home but don't,
and the reason is they're kind ofhoping that the rate's gonna come down and
they may be able to grab afour something. I think everybody's kind of
gone, all right, that threesomething isn't going And then the other side

(01:17:18):
of it is people that have thatthree they're looking around, going all right,
so do I sell my house?And then what now? If you're
paying cash? Right, you sellyour house and you made a bunch of
money on you're gonna go pay cash. It doesn't matter about your rate.
But to move somewhere where you gotto take out another loan, chances are

(01:17:38):
you're gonna be paying a lot morefor less. So you got how to
get all of these things. Peopleare frustrated. They are, They're very
frustrated. The economy is the thingminus the black Swan event. Talked last
hour about abortion. Obviously, it'sthe Abe theory. We have abortion order

(01:18:00):
economy kind of in those order,in the order that you want to.
Economy is probably gonna be number one. But but you know, abortion is
going to be an issue for somepeople in some areas. The border is
a big issue that the Democrats inthe media are kind of just like,
but when you ask people, it'sa really big issue. And the Black
Swan event, the most that couldcome out of this would be an attack

(01:18:21):
that somehow gets traced back to thefact that we were sleeping on the border,
if you will. But the economyis everywhere and everything we do right
I'm in my studio, All ofthis stuff is economy. I just had
a protein shake. Economy. Ipurchased this, by the way, the

(01:18:44):
cost of it, everything is throughthe roof and some of the stuff he
talked about, cause you know,you can try to blame it all on
corporate greed. Is there some ofthat? I'm sure there is. No.
Okay, I'm not what he's food. That's not true. No,
but we always push off every situationwhen it comes to a rise and price
that it's it's corporate greed. That'swhat's gotta be. So wait a minute.

(01:19:08):
If their prices are going out,it to purchase all the stuff,
no matter what it is, whetherit's it's it's costing more for employees,
which is usually eats up a vastmajority of stuff, or for supplies and
all that that right there is corporategreed because they pass it off to No,
it's not, it's just the waythat stuff's done. I'm not saying
there's not some corporate greed out there, because I'm sure every corporation would like

(01:19:30):
to make as much money as possible. It would like the consumer to pay
for it. Who wouldn't want that? If you work at a business right
now, let's say it's a smallbusiness, right it's it's it's it's mom
and pop small business, widget makers. But you want to earn as much
money as possible, Yeah, youdo. Well, I want to be
fair, but yeah, I'd liketo earn as much exactly. That's what
they always pass it off at.There's a lot that goes into it.

(01:19:51):
Be And here's the other thing aboutwhere we live and the beauty of it
is in the free market, you'reallowed to choose certain areas. One more
from Biden with Aaron Burnett. Peoplehave a right to be concerned ordinary people.
I mean, there's corporate greed goingon out there and it's got to
be dealt with. What about Imean, but there's real pain. I
mean, grocery prices are a thirtypercent, more than thirty percent since the

(01:20:13):
beginning of the pandemic, and peopleare spending more on food and groceries than
they have at any time really inthe past thirty years. I mean,
that's a real day to day pain. That people know real if you're taking
a look at what them people have, they have the money to spend as
angers them and angers me that youhave to spend more. And then he
went on to blame the corporations again, you can only explain so much away.

(01:20:34):
Most people feel at this moment intime. Four years ago it was
better, right, four years ago, it felt better. Four years ago,
it felt like things were better,whether it's nostalgia or the reality it

(01:20:55):
was, you know, price wise. And I'm going to say this,
and I've always said this and Iwill continue to say this. So here's
President, You and I are thedriving force of this country, of the
economy. I want all my presidents, no matter who he or she or
they them are, to succeed.But at the end of the day,

(01:21:17):
we're the driving engine and the forcethat is this economy, that is this
country. And we give too muchcredit, and we give too much blame
to individuals because well the media hasframed it as they're it. And is
there some nostalgia that's real for Trump? Yes, some of those numbers when

(01:21:38):
you look back, those were greatnumbers. And people they feel that it's
a family in Wisconsin got a smallbusiness, the Sugar Shack in downtown Racine.
Michelle Noonan's family business is thriving,but rising prices aren't taking a toll.
It's just a lot more challenges forany business owner these days. Yes,
everything the Noonan's now always looking tospend less. I thought it was

(01:22:00):
better, easier for me four yearsago. I could just go to work
right from home, not really haveto worry about so much. Yeah,
and there is that nostalgia that goesthere, so we'll see what plays out.
But the economy, the economy,the economy. We could talk about
all of the other stuff, andit is important to talk about what's going
on in Israel, what's going on, you know, in Ukraine, and

(01:22:23):
how geopolitically these things can change overnight. There's another black Song event. If
something went absolutely wrong in Ukraine andthe next thing, you know, Putin's
on the march and we've got bootson the ground. Understand those things could
change. But for us at homeevery day, living our lives, it's
the economy stupid, and right nowit feels like it's a stupid economy.

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is a lot of stuff trending.I'll tell you that right now. A
lot of sports stuff trending. Orshould we start today? How about Twitter?

(01:24:48):
A lot of NBA stuff, NickPacers, Shack Survivor forty six.
I think that's the television show.Sounds like a band. A E W
Dynamite Steve Albini. If you don'tknow the name, you might know his
work. He is a great producer, audio wizard, worked for everybody in

(01:25:11):
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(01:25:56):
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(01:26:17):
The trial resumes today cross examination.What ncis met Gallas still trending on
Yahoo and then we head over toGoogle. Number one trending thing yesterday,
Rey Al Madrid. One million pluspeople searched it. The Knicks, Dallas
Stars, Kingdom of the Planet ofthe Apes. It's happening, It's all

(01:26:40):
happening. It's coming back, theKingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
This is Is this the past oris it the future of what we're heading
to. Australian surfers killed in Mexico. We've talked about that earlier this week.
So you had three guys, youa guy from California, I believe,
and then two of his buddies wentto Mexico to surf and they were

(01:27:04):
murdered. And many people think itwas because the people that carjacked them didn't
want the car, but one ofthe tires. Horrific situation. Horrific situation,
and you know, I mean yougot to think about it. For
you go there and you think thatthis, you're living the dream. Right,
you're in your early twenties, youand your buddies should going to Mexico

(01:27:27):
as I did when I was younger, because I lived in southern California,
So going down to Tijuana and doingsomething. Tijuana used to be the place
to go, right Like that usedto be the place to head when I
was a kid to have fun.You know, if you were underage and
you want to go drink a party, you could do that. But it
was just it was it was aparty like atmosphere. And now it's like
the deadliest place on the planet.It's just I mean, how many of

(01:27:51):
you guys have gone to a swapmeet? That's kind of what Tijuana was
like it was like a swap meetmeets carnival meets, just all the things
you see on television for the wackiness, and that used to be what it
was. And the worst case scenariois some federal allies would pull you over.
They would, you know, theywould you know, you'd have to
pay him some money to get outof it or whatever. There was a

(01:28:11):
word now in certain places it youknow, it's it's chaos. And you've
got families grieving and figuring out.Wait a minute, these people might have
been killed because somebody wanted their tires. Oh jeez, three two, three,
five, three, eight, twentyfour to twenty three atch had Benson's
show is your Twitter? What doyou think about that? President Biden?

(01:28:33):
I mean, you know that's crazy, right, of course it's crazy.
He would tell you us, Butwe can't look at it like that.
No, you can't talk to us, President Biden, about the past.
You know, give us something aboutthe past in your life. This another
thing that was trending, and it'sjust worth listening to the gaff of gaffes.
Well, no, just another Mygeology professor at the Catholic school I

(01:28:57):
went to was a guy named Leylast name, and he had been drafted
by the Green Bay Packers Riley lastname because it said last name, he
is Ron Burgundy. If you typesomething on the teleprompter, if you could
get to it, he's gonna sayit. And the comments when you ever

(01:29:21):
you see any of these things,because usually the comments are the most hilarious
things about most things. But thething that was interesting about these comments is
people were more worried that he didn'tcatch the fact that he said Riley last
name three two, three, five, twenty four to twenty three. At
Chad Benson Show, is your Twittercoming up? We're gonna talk to a

(01:29:43):
lady. I did an interview withher yesterday. She got a new book
out about the trans movement and dTRANSI so going from boy to girl or
girl to boy and then saying I'vemade a mistake and the cult Mary Margaret's
name is a two part interview long, but I will tell you this right
now. It is worth hearing andthen some because it is shocking out there

(01:30:08):
what's going on. And these kids'stories, mostly kids, mostly young women,
aren't being told and the gender ideologycult is coming from them. The
minute they decide to quote unquote leavethe movement. It is over for them.
We're going to talk to her straightahead. It is the Chad Benson
Joe Chad Benson Joe, Independent Thoughts, Independent Life. This is Chad Benson

(01:31:00):
new book out, a book thatis I think been a long time coming
because of the insanity going on withthe trans movement, slash activism, slash
cult. Joining us now is theauthor of that book, Mary Margaret d
Trans True Stories of Escaping the GenderIdeology Cult. And before we jump into
that, I saw your tweet froman hour ago, and I do want

(01:31:20):
to ask you the question, whatis a gender queer witch and what are
they doing speaking about kids? Yeah, that is a great question. One
of my friends at the Dilly Wire, one of their reporters leave with covering
this story where they were talking abouta gender queer witch that was presenting to
school children in Pennsylvania. I believejust a very strange story, one of

(01:31:43):
many that we're seeing lately where theseschool districts are bringing in complete and utter
weirdos frankly, to talk to kidsabout subject matters that obviously should be up
to their parents to decide whether they'reeven hearing about them, and it's these
activists groups that are facilitating these typesof meetings like we see here in DC.

(01:32:05):
These activist groups work with the DClibraries, for example, to bring
drag queens from all over the countryto perform or read to little kids.
So it's just another weird and disturbingstory. But kudos to my friend leaf
over at the Daily Wire for hisreporting because that is a headline I haven't
seen in a while. All Right, now, let's jump into the book

(01:32:27):
because this needs to be talked about. I've said this for the last eight
or ten years that what is comingthe absolute fallout from this insanity of gender
ideology. The doctors that have beenput in some cases and positions where they're
going to lose their license if theydon't do something, but they know in
the future they're going to lose theirlicense. It is a cult, and

(01:32:48):
the d trans movement is happening,and the minute you're not part of the
cult anymore, it's like the mob. Right, you're blood in and blood
out and they'll get rid of you. It's really disturbing. And you know,
these doctors are all behaving, frankly, in a very cowardly manner when
it comes to these DE transitioners becauseA they're performing these surgeries and prescribing these

(01:33:14):
hormones to these kids, and Bonce these young people realize that they shouldn't
have transitioned, you know, andobviously transitioned is impossible, so they shouldn't
have attempted to transition, and thatthey're suffering mentally and physically, and they
go back to the doctors seeking somekind of medical help to help them recover
physically, and the doctors can't doanything either because they don't know how or

(01:33:39):
they don't want to. And sowe have kind of a crisis right now
of DE transitioners seeking medical help andcan't find any. And then meanwhile,
we don't even know the accurate numberson how many D transitioners there are because
such a low number of them actuallygo back to their doctors and tell them
I regretted this transition attempt. Andso you'll see in the mainstream media whenever

(01:34:03):
they report on this type of thing, they'll say very few people actually regret
their transitions, and they'll cite likeold studies trying to say that this is
not a phenomenon and that these peoplelike Chloe Cole are outliers, which is
not true, and we know it'snot true by the rising number of stories
that are thankfully being shared on socialmedia, which is where I found many

(01:34:27):
of the d transitioners who are inmy book. Yeah, and the book
is called d trans True Stories ofEscaping the Gender Ideology Cult. And it
is a cult because these kids getpushed. We did a story today about
you know this poor lady in Cordlaine, Idaho, where she's like, my
daughter goes off to school, shecomes back now, you know, she's
in high school. Now she wantsme to call her Felix, like Felix

(01:34:48):
the cat, and she's you know, she's cut her hair and she's done
all this and the cult it almostfeels like an abusive relationship where they want
to separate you from and the peoplethat know you, love you and care
for you, so they can controlyou. Yeah, and that is an
accurate way of putting it. AndI think another aspect of the cult like

(01:35:12):
attitudes here is that this gender ideologyis treated very much like our religion,
so you can't even push back.They'll tell young people like Chloe or Luca,
any of the girls in my bookthat if your family doesn't affirm you,
or if they don't agree with youthat you are a boy, they
hate you and they want you dead. It's not just that they dislike you

(01:35:35):
or they disagree with you, it'sthat they actively want your they want you
to suffer. And it's a horriblething to say to someone, but it
also is very cults like, right, because we're telling a young person your
family hates you if they won't affirmthis ideology that we all hold to be
our religion. And when the detransitionerscome forward and say I regarded this and

(01:36:00):
my experience has been very hard forme, and I regret it, they're
told that they are hateful, They'retold that they are liars, that they
were never truly in the circle.You know, that they were never truly
part of the cult. And soall these behaviors are just very symptomatic of
a cult, I think. Andthat was part of the reason that I
used the word in my subtitle becauseand I even asked the the transitioners,

(01:36:24):
do you feel like this is toofar? And a bunch of them told
me no, we think this isappropriate in this context. Absolutely, you
know. So Mary Market, yougo out, you're talking to all these
people and they're pushed into it,and and there's all kinds of studies out
about some of these kids are autisticin a very major way. I've dealt
that with this is my own fifteenyear old daughter who and several of her

(01:36:45):
friends. It feels like they pickon a certain group of kids that they
find that they know they can eventuallymanipulate. And to me, I find
that scary and it's weird. WhenI was a kid grown up I'm fifty
three, we had a couple ofgay kids who they were where nobody was
trans. Now it's like there's twelveat them at your school. I find
that to be hard to believe.But I feel like they're picking them out

(01:37:09):
like they would, you know,if they're hunting and saying, okay,
there's one we can go with.Well. And I think we need to
make sure we talk about social contagion, which is a huge element of this,
and Abigail Shreier documented it really wellin her book Irreversible Damage. We've
seen social contagion in other aspects ofin other decades. For example, when

(01:37:30):
I was in high school, manygirls that I knew were Inarexic and that
is absolutely something anorexia that is attributableto social contagion, where all these girls
were making each other feel like theywere not skinny enough, and then it
became a mental illness where they werejust striving and striving and striving to become
skinnier and kind of aiding and abettingeach other's mental health issues. There in

(01:37:57):
the same way, these young peopleare are causing one another to become gender
dysphoric. And obviously this partially startswith the school counselors or the school teachers
that are introducing these concepts, orwith the social media content that they're consuming.
But it is very normal for multipleyoung people in the same social circles

(01:38:23):
to be identifying as trands together becauseit's a social thing, and that makes
it all the more disturbing. Howmuch the social media, because I think
it plays a huge part. Howmuch is that when you delve into your
book that you look and go socialmedia is you know, along with again
your friends and your friend group andthe social contagent, but social media itself,
how much of that is playing apart in this? It's playing a

(01:38:45):
huge role. I mean, allthe de transitioners I talked to encountered this
type of content online, the genderideology content online, and they all felt
that it really fast tracked their gendertransitions and made them, you know,
feel that they belonged in this community. And that's where they were meeting a
lot of the LGBTQ advocates or transgenderadvocates that we're telling them, yes,

(01:39:10):
you're trans, and you know,they talked about encountering this type of thing
on Instagram, on Tumblr, onsnapchat, Reddit, just pretty much every
social media platform that you can thinkof, and in particular, I think
Instagram was very hard for these girlsbecause they're being shown all these representations of
womanhood on Instagram, you know,which we already know is incredibly hard for

(01:39:35):
young women who are going through pubertyor are first learning about friendships and relationships
to see all these perfect images andin a word, to have fomo about
other people's lives that's already been shown. The Instagram is destroying the mental health
of girls all over the world.And then when you add into that the

(01:39:55):
element of gender ideology and little girlsbeing afraid to be a woman based on
these representations they're seeing on social mediaand then being told maybe it's because you're
a guy. It's just it's tooeasy for these activists to prey on young
people who are already nervous and goingthrough puberty and not really sure what to
think. That is part one ifmy interview with Mary Market about her new

(01:40:17):
book coming back, We're gonna havepart two. It was a great interview,
went for a long time, andI'm telling you guys right now,
what is coming these de transitioning,this experimenting on young kids. I think
the reckoning is coming and it's startingto peek through the clouds, if you
will as we speak, we're gonnahave part two coming up of the interview

(01:40:39):
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the other things coming up. Thesecond part of my interview that I did
yesterday with Mary Margaret, who isan author of a new book about the
cold of gender ideology, it's calledd trans. It is amazing. You
need to hear this. Second partof that interview is straight ahead. It

(01:42:06):
is the Chad Benson Show. Welcometo Jest. No, not the country,
the institution, The Chad Benson Show. Talking to Mary. Margaret spoke
to her yesterday. She got anew book out called d trans True Stories
of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult.One of the things I wanted to talk

(01:42:29):
to her about is, yes,there are some males that do this,
but the vast majority of the malesaren't in high school. Aren't young kids
a little bit older, college andeven older, but the young women in
particular middle school and beyond. Whyis it that young women are getting caught
up in this gender ideology cult.Well, that's something that Abbiel Shier really
gets into, and she talks abouthow pervasive social contagent is with girls,

(01:42:53):
Like if you notice the example Iused earlier with anorexia. Anarexia was you
know, there are certainly men thatstruggle with it, but it was predominantly
a phenomenon with girls in their highschool years. And I think in the
same way we've seen a social contagionwith gender ideology and transgenderism, with girls,

(01:43:15):
and Abigail Shreier would be much betterable to articulate this than I am.
But what I've heard and from theconversations that I've had with these days
transitioners, is that a lot ofit has to do with a search for
identity and a search for wanting toknow who you are and establish yourself as
someone in our culture, which kindof requires you to like have something,

(01:43:38):
you know, something going on thatmakes you special and different, stand out
from everybody else. And unfortunately,transgender ideology does offer this unique situation,
even from a political angle. Whenyou are a white, straight a girl
who is straight and who is white, you don't have a lot to make
you stand out. But when youare a transgender boy and you're a you

(01:44:00):
know, theoretically you're a minority thatis persecuted. That gives you a whole
bunch of identity that you didn't havebefore. And that's something that Helen At,
one of the girls in my book, talks about. So I think
there's a lot of factors going intoit, but especially this desire for identity
and a desire to be someone anda terror, a terror of what it

(01:44:24):
actually means to be a woman becausemany of these girls are seeing pornography at
an early age. They're seeing reallyoverly sexualized images of women and femininity and
womanhood, and they don't know howto actually be a woman, and they're
afraid of these representations that they're seeing, and so an easy option is to

(01:44:45):
just not be a woman, tonot have breasts, for example, to
get a double misectomy. And alsothere's many of these girls have experienced some
kind of sexual assault. So whenyou're afraid of your femininity, a very
easy so is to just reject itcompletely. And that's unfortunately what we're seeing
in a lot of these cases.What about like, what's the push for

(01:45:08):
teachers, for doctors, what's thepush behind as to me, I look,
I think it's evil and it's childto push if you're getting If I
took my son to get steroids,people lose lose their mind. If I
took my son to get a tattoohe's thirteen, people lose his mind.
If I took him to get hormoneblockers, people cheer, cheer on.
What's the insanity of this cult?Like behind it? Where's it coming from?

(01:45:31):
Well, a lot of it iscoming from these activist groups who have
been working for years to subvert ourculture and to change the way that we
talk to our children about sexuality andhuman dignity. You know, there is
a strong push to introduce sexual topicsto children at a very young age,
when most kids should never have evenheard of some of these things. And

(01:45:54):
let's keep in mind, like whenwe're talking about kids deciding they want to
transition, the very nature of thesetopics is sexual and that's disturbing. When
a little girl who has never evenheld a boy's hand is starting to tell
people that she identifies as a boy, and she's being given hormones and talking
about surgeries to fix her sexual preferencesand make them match what she's interested in.

(01:46:18):
All of that is incredibly disturbing andtwisted. No little girl should ever
be having these kinds of things discussedat all. So there's a very perverted
element to this push for children tobe involved in any of these conversations,
and especially the media's attempts to twistall this as well. The way they

(01:46:41):
frame, for example, Florida's ParentalRights and Education Bill, which is supposed
to just prohibit teachers from talking aboutinappropriate content in the classroom. They whipped
it into a media frenzy and madeit into the don't say gay bill.
Well, that bill never even saidgay in it. Surely about talking about
sexual topics in the classroom. Mediadoes the same thing when it comes to

(01:47:05):
those protecting kids from transgender surgeries,hormones, and puberty blockers. They'll say,
they'll say that the Republicans are tryingto ban trans care or they're trying
to ban gender reforming care for transyouth. Well, that's a lie,
first of all, it's not care, and it's a media lie that they
can continue to use at the behestof these activist groups. So there's a

(01:47:28):
lot going on there, and Ithink that the media is entirely complicit in
it. And these activist groups arein a great situation right now where they
really can get their message wherever theywant. All right, Mary, Margaret,
it's a crazy time. We couldtalk about this for hours. What
do you want people to take awayfrom the book itself? I want people
to read these stories that are thereal stories of these transitioners. I want
them to read them and understand whatthese young girls and men have gone through

(01:47:54):
and to carry those stories with themso that the next time they encounter someone
that's describing gender reffirming care, they'reequipped to say, actually, I know
some first hand accounts of people whohave been through this, and this is
not what we are being told thatit is. And my hope is kind
of that someone will pick up thisbook and read these stories, and that
might not be interested in conservative commentaryand then see these stories and understand the

(01:48:19):
realities of what they're going through.And you know, the D transitioners stay,
there's life after D transition. They'reall they're all using their stories and
their accounts to spread awareness, andthey're they're going out and testifying to stay
lawmakers and speaking. So they're amazingpeople, and I think they are the
stories to start to be told.And I'm hoping too that other young people

(01:48:43):
who are considering getting into this genderideology will see these stories and read them
and maybe change their minds absolutely thebook D trans True Stories of Escaping the
Gender Ideology Cult. Mary Markat appreciateyou coming on today, and hopefully we'll
have be on soon for more popculture and other stuff. Thank you,
thanks so much for having me.That's it for us today. I am

(01:49:05):
back on Tuesday taking a couple ofdays off. You guys have a blessed
next few days and next week aswell. We'll talk to you then as
always, Night eye Jack. Thisis the Chad Benson Show.

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