Trump and Musk Host Friendly Conversation on X After Delay from Technical Difficulties

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Independent thoughts, Independent life. This is Chad Benson.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It didn't start well, let's be honest about that, but
it was interesting. Normally I will not listen to that
much of an interview because I just don't have the
time trying to show prep for today's show.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Top of that, I've got.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
My little one and I really do enjoy spending time
with her because we're having a good time.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yesterday had Daddy daughter Day because school starts first.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're shopping and doing all these things and we're getting
ready for school today.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
But I listened last night. It's funny. My daughter's five.
Charlie's name should be six.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Later on this month, she says, Daddy, you owned the
phone with somebody because I was out doing some stuff
in the in the front room and was She thought
I was on the phone when she was overcoloring and stuff.
I said, no, no, I'm listening to something. She goes, oh, okay,
but it didn't start well.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
My apologies for the late start.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
We unfortunately had a massive distributed Nihali service attack against
our servers and saturated all of our data lines, like
hundreds of gigabits of data were saturated. We've we think
we've overcome most of that, and so it's not time

(01:24):
to proceed. But this massive attack illustrates there's a lot
of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has
to say.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
You do want silencing of certain voices. Usually those are
voices that have something to say that are constructive, oftentimes constructive.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
And oftentime not welcomed by the powers to be. But
here's a question that nobody's asking out there in the
regular media world. Okay, you don't like the fact that
Trump spoke for two hours, you don't like that you
criticize how he's slurring his words, keys at a stroke, whatever.

(02:04):
Why aren't you demanding that Kamala have a conversation with somebody.
Why aren't you demanding that she sit down with somebody
anybody at this point in time. Hell a TikTok influence
or we'll get to that a little bit later somebody
and have a conversation to state her views. We know
what Trump's views are. Hell we they need a little

(02:25):
bit of both of them if you want to know
the truth. Kamala needs some more Trump like spirit. Will
should go out and speak to anybody, and Trump needs
a little bit more Kamala where maybe he doesn't speak
so much. But the people that are sitting there and
on you know, the keyboard warriors are out there saying,
you know, horrible things about Trump and again, yeah you do,

(02:46):
you booth.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
So what I always say, you're not.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
At all interested in what she has to say outside
of whatever is written for her on a script. She's
playing a part at this point in time. She's acting
out of part. That's what she's doing. And you're not
curious at all as to why she's changed positions on this,

(03:13):
or why she's done certain things on that, and why
she's going this direct, but why all of that's being
done through surrogates and people on her campaign.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You're not curious.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
You're not curious for a second to think, you know what,
I'd like to hear my side of the aisle, the
person that's running to come out and do a two
hour sit down, even with somebody who is going to
be friendly like Trump or hey Trump, that's a you thing.
I got no problem with that. But one thing I

(03:47):
will say is he did what ninety minutes last week,
he did two plus hours last night. Never gets credit for.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Any of that.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's fine, But that being said, you're not curious at
all as to who she is and what she stands for.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
At all. No, what did I hear? All he did
was slur his words last night.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
I have to give the Secret Service a sniper they
call him, or sharpshooter, but a sniper because he didn't know.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
There was a problem.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
He's been. He's an extraordinary shot, obviously, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
That's what.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, and Jim slurring his words sounds like he's got
the swallow a little bit too much moisture in there,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
He sounded fine, sounded like he's on a speakerphone. I
don't know what to expect. But that's all I mean, nobody.
That's the thing that scares me. For all the momentum
of her, for all she's got the momentum, I think
a stopper. She's got the momentum's got everything, Thanks God
for my God. She's just all over the mice.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I've ever seen so many vibes, man, she's vibe. Everything's
about FIBs. Vibes.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
What about policy? Why are we not talking about policy?
Great that you've got vibes. Do you have policy? I
would like to hear some of your policies. Sometimes that
go for Trump too, and again it's politics. We live
in an entertainment society. Nobody wants to, you know, a policy,

(05:28):
walk out there talk well, let me tell you what
I would do here. I mean, we get that, but
I would like to hear some policy, some talk of
stuff other than just going out there and saying, uh,
it's this, this and this right, which is I'm gonna
do better for you. This is what's gonna happen, thank

(05:49):
you very much, and no pushback policy. I like the
way he handled some of the stuff last night. One
of my favorite things is nuclear. He needs got to reap.
It's got a bad rap. We got to rebrand it.
But he talks a lot about Ukraine, talked a lot
about Russia, talked a lot about inflation, talked a lot

(06:10):
about immigration because he's full of hate for immigrant. If
you listened to it last night, full of hate for
people coming across the boarder, say any of that stuff.
But he's very honest about what was happening about immigration.
But it was none of the things right. You won't
hear any of that today if you listen to talk
radio and yeah, you're gonna hear some of that, do

(06:31):
I think sometimes a lot of this stuff goes on
much longer than.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
It needs to.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
But you're sitting down with Elon, and by the way,
Elon was out there pitching his own thing as well.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Place is caused by government over spending.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Would you agree that we need to take a look
at govern spending and have perhaps a government efficiency commission
that tries to make the spending sensible and so the
country lives with its means, just like it's like a person.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
Weight is incredible and it's nobody negotiates prices. One of
the first documents they asked to design a General Walks
Air Force one Boeing which is basically two planes, two
seven forty sevens, and the price was five point seven billion.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Dollars for two points.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
Now now they're highly.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Sophisticated even number, but I said, I'm not going to
pay five point seven I'm not going to do it.
Over course of about four week, by my saying I'm
not going to do it, I got the price reduced
by one point six billion dollars for the exact same plane.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Other than we had a nicer paint job. If you
want to know the truth.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
If you want to know the truth. The paint job
on ours is great. They screw up everybody else's. Trump
always got to one up somebody.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
We'll concern about the economy. A lot of people concenter
up on inflation, and inflation is effectively a tax on
people that that saved money and for people that are
working day to day, it's it's it's it's just a
form of taxation. And and if we can solve the
government spending problem, we'll solve the inflation problem.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Which means people will have a better standard of living.
And that's that's a really big one.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
We've got to get the prices down.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
You know, when I look at bacon costing five, four
or five times more than it did a few years.
When you look at some of the food products and
groceries those people go they can't believe it. You know
a lot of people just don't have the money. They
go in and they can't buy anything they looked at.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, it's sticker shock.

Speaker 7 (08:12):
They call it sticker shock, right, they.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Call it sticker shock.

Speaker 8 (08:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't know what bacon costs because I've never bought anything.
I didn't even know how you get bacon in the
house comes from a pig right. It was entertaining at times.
I've just you did two hours.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Would i'd like to have heard some more policy. I'll
tell you what the most impressive thing I thought. Everybody's
like man. He loves dictators.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know what he is.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
He's a strong dude. He's a strong personality. When you're
dealing with dictators, if you show weakness, they will do
everything to crush your soul. I've always said this why
he gets along with a lot of the other dictators
or people in the world that are strong because strong
people look at other strong people. They measure themselves in
that way. Like it or not, that's the truth. And

(09:04):
Trump feels that he can outstrong you in a lot
of ways. And it's like Kim Jong un is a
perfect example. It's fascinated by him, okay, because he wants
to be him if he wanted to be him for real.
Don't you think he had done other things when he

(09:25):
was president to ensure that he was going to be
him for real.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
But in many.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Cases, to defeat the monster, if you will, sometimes you
got to send your own monster, and Trump can be
that at times when it comes to a lot of
these people when it came to Ukraine, when it came
to Russia, it's a very interesting conversation. You get a
deeper insight into a lot of what is trump.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
You know, Biden did something with Russia. There was no
chance of him ever going. And when I left, and
then after I left, they started forming big arm on
the border with Ukraine, right, And I looked at that
and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a
good negotiator. I thought he was doing that to negotiate.
But then Biden started saying such stupid things. For instance,
he said that it can be in NATO country. Now,

(10:14):
Russia for for as long as there's been NATO has said,
we're never going to agree to that. And we did
things and said things through this president with a low IQ,
very low IQ. He said things that were so stupid
that war had zero chance of happening if I were there,
zero chance.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Stop of the personal tax. That's always been my thing,
keep the policy with him. But then he said this,
and I thought, this is what people like Putin respect
comparatively to what people like Biden think that Putin wants
to hear, which is, well, you know, we'll not negotiate

(10:53):
with you. We'll try to talk around you, well, to
tie to talk at you. And I thought, this is
kind of where Trump is at his best again.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
I said to Vladimir Putin, I said, don't do it.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
You can't do it.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
Vladimir, you do it, It's going to be a bad day.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
You cannot do it.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I told them things that what I do.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
And he said no way, and I said way.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
He said no way, and I said way. It was
interesting last night. We talk a little bit about this today.
We've got a lot of other stuff to get to today,
but I will tell you this. I found it fascinating.
I found Elon as fascinating as Donald Trump, because well
it's it's Elon and he is fascinating. We don't like him.

(11:39):
I know you don't like him. You did a while ago,
but you don't anymore. Three two, three, five, three eight,
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Speaker 3 (11:48):
By the way, who's running our country?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Because we are close to having wars break out everywhere
that may involve us, And I feel like our president,
whoever that person is today is we'll talk a bit
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Speaker 9 (12:58):
Joe, you're listening to the Chad Benson Show this morning.

Speaker 10 (13:11):
The White House saying an attack by Iran and its
proxies on Israel could come this week. That assessment amid
a flurry of US diplomacy, with the US sending back
channel messages to Iran, according to one official, with other
US officials quote cautiously optimistic Iran will limit the scope
of an attack.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Who's running our country out of curiosity? I think it's
a fair question. We've got all this stuff moving around,
We've got a lot of hardware in places, and I
think it's a fair question to ask. Because I don't
hear anything from Biden A Moore, he's an afterthought. I
have a feeling that there's a lot of stuff that
is going on that seems to be kind of a

(13:49):
group decision, with maybe a nod from Biden. He may
be on the phone call, but I don't know if
he's doing much calling and talking, if you know what
I mean.

Speaker 10 (14:00):
Deray of impressive American military assets, including aircraft, carriers and
a submarine move into position in the Middle East, the
US signaling deterence, all the while the US stressing efforts
to seal a deal for a cease fight in Gaza
are ongoing.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I just don't know if I buy it, and
what happens, what happens had they come much bigger? I
mean that's you know, everybody's expecting something small to happen.
Everybody's expecting some sort of reaction like they got last time.
When Iran says, all right, we got to do something,
We're going to telegraph it as we normally do, they'll

(14:39):
block a lot of stuff down. Iran will tell their people, hey,
we did this, and Israel said we did this, and
everybody go to their corners, and then the tensions will
still be there, but they won't be at each other's
strokes the way they were.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
This is totally different. You killed a Hamas leader in Iran.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
The world saw it, your people saw it. And I
think they're looking for more than just a pushback of
regular proportion. I think they're expecting something much larger, and
we seem to think that it's not going to be.
And if I was, if I'm Iron and I'm really

(15:19):
thinking about doing something, and again, I don't think they
have the balls to do it. I don't think they
have the want to do it because I think the
powers that be that talk the biggest game also understands
what they would be getting into and that that wouldn't
work well for them. But if the worry is about
what the US might do, this might be the time
to do something. Three two, three, five, three eight, twenty four,

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Speaker 10 (15:50):
President Biden said to be confident that the US has
the capabilities in the region to help Israel to defend
itself if that Iranian or Hesbola or other attack comes,
then the thing to watch for is how much they're
going to limit that attack and what wriggle room that
will give the Israelis in how they respond.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Which is and that's the weird thing with this stuff,
right It's like, Okay, we're gonna do this. If they
hit like this, we'll have this kind of response. If
they hit like this, they have this kind of response.
If they it's it's kind of funny. It's likeice like
they have a menu of responses. Somebody's text in.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Stop disparaging comments on Miss Harris, Speak truth to power
on Miss Harris.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I'm like, what are you? What are you talking about?
Where's my disparaging comments on her?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Honesty?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Is not disparaging. I have not disparaged miss Harris. I've
been honest with my assessment. Past performance is not indicative
of future results.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
But the reality is.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
The past is all we have to go on. So
in the past, she being who she is, does not
give you hope for said future. Three two, three, five, three, eight,
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And remember, if you're going to criticize, always put racist
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Speaker 11 (17:11):
So what.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Oh my goodness love hearing from all of you.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Got a lot of stuff to get to, including somebody
who's progressive.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
We're going to talk to her next.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I did a very long conversation slash interview with her yesterday.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
She's a progressive, but she's not insane.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
She wants to find out how we bridge the gap
between the right and the left, and she's not thrilled
with what her party has going on.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
We're going to talk to her straight ahead. Chad Benson,
Joe The Chad Benson.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Show, Independent Thoughts, Independent Life, This is Chad Benson.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I don't do things the way that other people do.
That's how I do my show. And when I saw
her the other day on TV, I said, I want
to talk to her, so I reached out to her.
She was kind enough to say, yes, I'll have a
conversation with you, which is amazing. Her name is Brianna Wu.
She's the executive director of Rebellion Pack. It's a progressive
pack what and you know what, She's not nuts, no,

(18:26):
And I think if we have conversations again with each other,
you'll find out that most of us agree with a
lot of the same things. Brianna, thank you so much
for coming on the show today. And I loved you
on Dan Abrams and I thought to myself, she's not crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
That is a win for America.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (18:41):
I was surely happy you invited me on, Chad, because
I feel the same way about a lot of conservatives.
After October seventh, I think it's been a really good
time for us to stop as Americans, not left versus right,
and realize that there's actually a lot that we agree on.
You know, I think if you and I sat down,
we might just on the top Marshal tax rate, but

(19:02):
we would probably agree that, you know, this kind of
theocratic Islamicism is a threat to Western democracy. You know,
we would probably agree that Iran is not someone wish
continue capitulating to. So I think it's it's good for
us to have a dialogue and just remember what brings
us all together.

Speaker 13 (19:19):
So thank you so much for having me here.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm on your Twitter and it makes me laugh because
I watch You'll say something and you one of the
things you talk about, how many friends you've lost in
the last year, you know, since October seventh, who you
thought were friends, but come to find out when it
came to you know, Israel and what took place, you
guys apparently aren't friends.

Speaker 13 (19:40):
That's right. You know.

Speaker 12 (19:41):
It's funny because I grew up in Mississippi, and for
a long time I just thought the anti Semites were
on the right. Just to be really honest with you,
I thought it was the people on my block growing
up that couldn't accept having a Jewish neighbor and pressured
them to leave the neighborhood. Come to find out, there
are a lot more of them on the left, and
they're held to double standards. They are not asked to

(20:03):
pay a social price in the same way. And I
just flat out don't understand where the rest of the
Democrats are standing.

Speaker 13 (20:11):
Up to this trash.

Speaker 12 (20:12):
You know, if there's a difference in Nazis marching on
Charlottesville saying Jews will not replace this and Corey Bush
making a quote unquote concession speech saying Jews are replacing
our politicians, I can't see it. This is disgusting. We
need to call it out. It's not the kind of
country I want to live in.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's not the country I want to live into.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
And I get called out a lot by the people
on the far right because I call out the bs
and their lunacy.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Because it needs to be called that.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I always tell everybody, if you won't police your own
then you don't deserve to be any kind of police.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (20:43):
So, I mean, how do you think you and I
work together to kind of pull this country back together?

Speaker 13 (20:49):
Right?

Speaker 12 (20:49):
Because what I've failed in the last year is if
I go and talk to my Republican friends, I think
to actually, we care about a lot of the same issues.
We have different ideas how to solve it. But you know,
Democrats don't have a monopoly on wanting their local school
to be better for their kids. Democrats don't have a
monopoly on being frustrated about healthcare costing so high. Republicans

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don't have a monopoly on inflation like making it very
hard for normal people to afford groceries. So how do
you get your side and how do I get my
side to put down this culture war and for us
to start figuring out the things that we agree on
so we can get some public policy done for the
American people.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know what's funny is I ask myself this all
the time, and I say I'm part of the exhaust majority.
Some people a little bit right, some people a little
bit left. We all kind of want the same thing.
Save schools. We want a border that is welcoming, but
not just a sieve where just anybody could walk in
anytime they want. We want a strong military that can

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not only be a helper but also a de terms
all these things. We may go about a different way
of getting there, but I think it until the exhausted majority,
you and I had a bunch of other people who
are truly the eighty five ninety percent of America stands
up and takes the bully pulpit away from everybody else.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's going to be tough to turn it around.

Speaker 12 (22:08):
I agree, And yeah, just to come back to the
border issue, I don't understand where the frack the Democrats
are on this issue.

Speaker 13 (22:16):
You know, I actually ran.

Speaker 12 (22:18):
For Congress, which means I got off my couch, I
got off Twitter, and I went.

Speaker 13 (22:21):
And talked to I edited it up one time.

Speaker 12 (22:24):
I had like almost one hundred thousand conversations with people
in Massachusetts. And what I don't understand is why the
Democratic Party doesn't understand that normal people aren't with our
fringe view on this. People want an orderly border for
people to come in. They don't want the sex trafficking.
They don't want fentanyl being smuggled in. They want some

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sort of situation applying to it. And there's just no
objective way to look at this situation and think it's
serving national security or our labor markets or anything. And
I just don't understn't want Democrats will get more serious
about this. I agree with you on this because I'm
a feminist. I don't want little girls being sex trafficked

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across our lower border.

Speaker 13 (23:10):
Where's the rest of my party on this?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I don't know, I don't know, and you know, it
frustrates me because I have most of my friends. I
grew up in southern California. Most of my friends are
on the left, and they're like, this is not normal.
It's like we should do something about this. But everybody
seems to be terrified. And let me ask you this, Bryan,
and I'm gona throw this at you, because I think
this is real. I think the problem is is we

(23:32):
have two parties and they're really two corporations, and at
the end of the day, they don't want to play
with anybody else but the two corporations because they're fine
being Coke and PEPSI. They don't want a doctor Pepper,
they don't want a seven up. They don't want anybody
else in their world that will upset the Apple card.
And the issue is far more important than the actual fix.

Speaker 13 (23:52):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (23:53):
I can tell you someone that does political fundraising. If
I send out a fundraising email and it says, hey,
I can work with the Republicans on this border policy.
We please donate so we can, you know, facilitate some
common sense legislation between the two. That's not gonna do
very well as a political fundraiser. If I put out
a fundraising letter and it's like, look at this stupid

(24:15):
thing Donald Trump said, and it's going to take away
your healthcare, that's going to do very well. So the
problem is none of the incentives are aligned for us
to even talk to each other, much less work together
on legislation. So it is I think it's fundamentally a
broken system.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Talking with Brianna Wu, executive director of Rebellion Pack, you know,
when you look at the system, and for me, I
look at it. My frustration is is we are at
a place in our time when it comes to media
and everything else where information doesn't matter, affirmation is more important.
But on top of that, now entertainment is as important
as anything else when it comes to an election or

(24:54):
any kind of policy.

Speaker 13 (24:55):
That's right, it's you know.

Speaker 12 (24:57):
And the other thing is elections are won by They
used to be won by persuasion, and today I think
they're won by passion, and a lot of that passion
is for ginning up anger at the other person. And yeah,
I want to be clear, like I'm not going to
be voting for Donald Trump because of like NATO is
the main reason I think NATO is helping us avoid

(25:18):
World War three, and the Republican Party is to isolationist
for my take. But I also think the Democrat Party
has skated by for the last eight years by just
attacking the Republicans NonStop. And I think the reason Biden
was such an extraordinarily weak candidate is because he never
bothered to articulate a positive vision for the country where

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he would go out in front of cameras and actually
say that to the American people. It was always just
look at how terrible the Republicans are. So I think
until more of us are willing to find that common
ground and say it with our chest publicly, I think
we're going to be stuck in this country those stupider,
more divided, and easier for our foreign adversaries like China,

(26:04):
Russia and to a lesser extent, Iran to basically get
their propaganda in here and have us do what they
want instead of what we should do.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
When you look out there, like I look at Tim Walls,
and again I think a lot of what he did
in Minnesota is kind of wacky, but you know, it
is what it is. He's just the swallow guy, and
the likes of Kamala Harris, I don't she needs to
speak at some point in time. I think you agree
with that. This love affair is bizarre with her and
they're champing her away. And I think a lot of

(26:35):
times the media is part feels like they're part of
the resistance.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
But the fact is is, I.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Don't know how she's going to be with I think
I think she's going to be far more She's going
to push back far harder on Israel than Biden is
because I don't think Biden even knows what's going on
half the time. And I don't think Tim Wallas is
going to be much of a help either. I don't
think they're going to be a fan of Israel. When
I look forward here, I think I get worried about that.

Speaker 13 (27:01):
I unfortunately agree with you. I will say this openly.

Speaker 12 (27:05):
I'm completely uncertain of Kamala's commitment to Israel. I've looked
through her public statements on this and they feel really lukewarm.
And you know, frankly her you know, fangirling and tolerating
the pro Hamas wing of our party is not acceptable
for me. I can tell you in good faith, this
is the calculus that I have that no matter what

(27:29):
the president and how the president feels. You know, there's
an isolationist flavor to the Republican Party that I find
really really disturbing.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
You.

Speaker 12 (27:41):
I think I grew up in Mississippi. Ronald Reagan was
my president. Top Gun was the top movie. G I
Joe were our toys. And I want in America that
is strong and engaged in the world and pursuing alliances
and having a strong economy because we're trading what countries
India and China, and we're bringing the best goods to

(28:04):
market and sharing technology with our allies. That is the
kind of worldwide leadership that I want.

Speaker 13 (28:11):
So it's a really.

Speaker 12 (28:12):
Difficult calculus for me personally that I see this isolationism
and I'm going, well, I'm going to trust the rest
of the party to not let her do crazy things,
even if I am personally unsure of where she stands.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Sometimes that right there is Brianna Wu.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
She is the co chair of Rebellion Pack, which is
a progressive pack, but she's not happy with her party.
She's not happy with the way that Democrats are running things.
Got a lot more about it, and I wanted to
have her on the show because I tell you guys
this all the time. I want diverse voices because I
want to hear what other people have to say. And

(28:49):
I've always said this, Diversity isn't about the color of
your skan, who you worship, who you love. It's the
most important diversity is how you think and can you
live with people who think differently?

Speaker 14 (29:00):
Can?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
A lot of people can't, Even people amongst their own
tribes have trouble if they're not all in lockstep. But
I think we need to do this, and and my show,
we're about the exhausted majority, because I firmly believe about
eighty five percent of America is not extreme right or
extreme left. We've got a lot more of her conversation

(29:21):
we to play over the next day or two, including
how we kind of come together and let me tell
you something, you know you listen to it. She is
a big proponent of our alliance with Israel. She is
not happy with the fact that the Republicans get blamed
for being Nazis, when, as she puts it, there's a

(29:41):
lot of Nazis that seem to be in her party.
And I continue to say this, if you can't police
your own and call out your own, that is not
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It's a Chad Benson show.

Speaker 15 (31:16):
Serving up talk radio medium, rare and dripping with irony.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
It's Chad Benson.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
For all of the Trump is evil, Trump is awful.
He sounds like he's slurring words. The question is for me,
that's the way you feel. You don't like Trump. You've
always not liked Trump. There was always something about Trump
you didn't like. Totally understandable.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
You do you boo? For me? Who are you? Kamala?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
That's the actual question, because I'm gonna play a couple things.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Okay, I'm gonna play a couple things.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And how we got from point A to point B
is something I'm still trying to figure out because she
doesn't talk.

Speaker 16 (31:57):
Kamala Harris has spent decades fighting violent Trump. As a
border state prosecutor, she took on drug cartels and jail
gang members for smuggling weapons and drugs across the border.
As Vice president, she backed the toughest border control bill
in decades. And as president, she will hire thousands more
border agents and crack down on fentanyl and human trafficking.

(32:20):
Fixing the border is tough, so is Kamala Harris.

Speaker 17 (32:24):
I'm Kamala Harris, and I approved this message, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
And by the way people say listeners, she sounds like
she's a hawk on immigration. None of that was about immigration.
By the way, she was tough on crime, so gangsters,
drugs there, she was tough. She never once said I'm
going to stop people from coming here illegally. But it
makes it sound like she's a border hawk. So are
you that or are you this.

Speaker 17 (32:47):
To somehow suggest and an undocumented immigrant is a criminal?
Being an undocumented immigrant is not a crime. I know
what a crime looks like. An undocumented immigrant is not
a criminal. An undocument immigrant is not a criminal. An
undocumented immigrant is not When we talk about the immigration debate,
I think there's no question that there are powerful forces,

(33:09):
including this president, that are attempting to vilify immigrants because
they were born in another country and suggests that they
are therefore any different in terms of their fundamental values
or beliefs or priorities. And I think all of us,
as Americans should be insulted by that suggestion, knowing that

(33:30):
all of us are just a few generations, if not
one generation away from immigrants who arrived in this country.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
So who are you?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Are you the tough on immigration and crime or are
you the hey, anybody come here, We're not going to
criminalize any of this. You're flopped to a different direction.
Nobody knows mine because she won't sit down. She will
not sit down and do an interview, not even a
softball interview with any of the media that love her,

(34:02):
that fought over her.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
She won't do any of that. So it is fair
to ask the question.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
You can say all you want about Donald Trump, but
in the last week, he's done a ninety minute presser,
he did a two hour plus interview with Elon last night.
What has she done outside of regurgitating whatever they tell
her to regurgitate? You're not curious? Is your hatred of
Trump so large that you're not curious as to how

(34:32):
she has gone from this to this? Why are you
not curious? That scares me that you're not curious about
any of this? And then, of course, will she ever
have to This is David Frumm, former speech writer for
HW and now one of the editors over at The
Atlantic talking about if she'll ever have to do is

(34:53):
sit down.

Speaker 18 (34:54):
I imagine she will.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 18 (34:56):
But the way you communicate presidential campaigns is also a
little different in the TikTok era from the way it
was in the network.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Adult think she doesn't think candidates have to do these interviews.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
At all from the network.

Speaker 18 (35:07):
And you also sit down with different kinds of people
that in the TikTok era from what you did, and
TikTok has done the same thing.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
TikTok has done the same thing. We'll talk more about
that next hour.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
That being said, you still need to sit down and
talk with somebody, don't you to explain your positions. Three
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second hour. More on Elon and Trump and the conversation.
It's funny the way the media that is pulling for
Harris covers the whole Elon and Trump conversation. It's what
it was more on TikTok and the influence it does have,
and does she need to ever actually have a conversation
with anybody, which I find to be frightening some people don't.

(36:02):
I think you should be out there having conversations. If
you have changed your positions on these things, why have
you changed them?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Don't you owe the.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
People and your party and explanation? How about the people
of this country as well. You're missing the show. Make
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Speaker 3 (36:20):
It is the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
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(36:52):
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Speaker 3 (36:54):
Last night's ex event. Who I like that? Elon?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
You can have that ex event with Elon and Trump,
by the way, changes nothing. How many independents who are
really out there, who are up for grabs? We talked
about that yesterday, that is shrinking every day. How many
of them listen to that? Probably not a lot.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I mean there's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
They'll hear bits and pizzas and clips because that's what
we do now. I mean, we don't listen to the
whole three and a half hour, five hour podcasts. Whatever
it is to our we listen to bits and pieces
and clips because we live in a world that is
built for ADHD, which makes.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
It perfect for me.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Because I don't know if you guys are aware of this,
I've had that is it catching?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
That being said, It didn't start well last night, but
yesterday this was asked at the White House, and I'm
gonna give you my answer to it.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Now.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
You have zero, zero responsibility and zero say in any
of it.

Speaker 19 (38:08):
Musk is slated to interview Donald Trump tomorrow tonight on X.
I think that misinformation on Twitter is not just a
campaign issue, It's it's an America issue. What role does
the White House or the President have in sort of
stopping that, or stopping the spread of that, or sort
of intervening it.

Speaker 20 (38:27):
Yeah, no, I mean you've heard us talk about this
many times from here, about the responsibilities that social media
platforms have when it comes to misinformation disinformation. Look, it
is I think it is incredibly important to call that
out as you're you're doing.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
You asked the question, Hey, does the White House have
a responsibility for shutting down misinformation and disinformation? Let's separate
the two. Misinformation. You think it's real, there's no. I'm
truly trying to trick you into believing that it's something.
You believe it's real, and that's a misinformation. Disinformation is

(39:05):
you are absolutely no, it's a lie, but you're still
spreading it anyways.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
You know whose responsibility it is to figure that out?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
The consumer, which is you and I and the reason
we don't go out and look harder at stuff to
see if this is real or not. Like the Trump
blood bathing, which has been disproven a gazillion times, but
he said that he was talking about the car industry.
We've played it, We've talked about it a thousand times.

(39:32):
If you hate Trump, all you need to know is
that's a blood bath, and that's what he's talking about.
Blood in the streets, people dead, et cetera, et cetera.
If you're serious about did that person say that for
real or is that just a clip taken because I
don't quite, then you'll do more research. So part of
the problem is the consumer wants the affirmation of their belief,

(39:54):
so they're not going to challenge it at all. So
what does that mean? That's as much on us as
it is anybody else. But you have no say. I
don't know if you saw this yesterday the EU one
of their commissioners, his name is Terry Bronton. He warned
the Musk to comply with legal obligations although the eused
digital Real book was including propulsionate and effective mitigation measures

(40:19):
regarding the amplification of Humfeld content or else.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
And Elon being Elon.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Replied by posting a picture of Tom Cruise back from
tropical thunder that says, take a big step back and
literally blank your own face because that's what you do
as a child. You have no responsibility White House. That

(40:51):
should be up to the consumer. But the thought that
you should, You guys figure out a way to who
gets to be the arbiter of the truth. See, that's
the reaction of this insane world, of this battle of
social media and misinformation disinformation. Who gets to be the
arbiter of truth is the winner? Because if truth is

(41:12):
what I say it is, then even if it's wrong,
I win because truth is what I say it is.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
That's scary.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
The beauty of what we have going on here in
this country is our free speech. Even if people say
dumb ass things. It's our free speech, but there's somebody
asking the question, do you really think that they should
be allowing this on Twitter and x and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
It didn't start well last night. Let's be real.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
My apologies for the late start.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
We unfortunately had a massive distributed nihilog service attack against
our servers and saturated all all of our data lines,
like hundreds of gigabits of data were saturated. We've we
think we've overcome most of that and so it's not

(42:13):
time to proceed.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
But this massive attack illustrates there's.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
A lot of opposition to people just hearing what President
Trump has to say.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
You do want silencing of certain voices. Usually those are
voices that have something to say that are constructive. Oftentimes constructive.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
You tend to find that right, Like, if I don't
want to hear somebody, usually they have something to say
that is.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Well for me.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
It's a lot of fu and you're horrible, get called racist,
not say all the usual stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
And I don't care that you say those things.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
If that makes you feel better, fantastic, And I would
never want to take that right away from you. I'm
I'm a free speech absolutist, and you guys know that
you listen to the show one hundred percent, you know that.
I mean, if you're not threatening to kill people, if
you're not threatening to do those things, if you.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Want to go on college campuses and wear your kafiva.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
And run around and you know, praise whatever, you know, Hey,
I think that you know, Hamas is doing a great job,
all that.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Fantastic, right, But the minute you start threatening Jews, the
minute you start threatening to destroy them and kill them,
well then you've crossed that line. But I'm a free
speech absolutist, and I wish there were more people out there.
The fact that Europe's trying to silence it, the fact
that you had somebody ask a question yesterday. Kjp's like, yeah,
we got a real issue with that. Those things should

(43:40):
concern everybody. I don't think anything changed last night. I
think we got two hours of Trump. He rambles at times.
Let's be real, we're honest with ourselves. He is very
emotional at times. Last night was very calm. It was
more of a Q and A. I mean, does it
re said it now? It doesn't reset it. It doesn't

(44:03):
reset this because that's not going to come until they
actually have a chance to sit down and debate policy.
Who's Kamala tell me? I would love for somebody to
define her compared to define her from her own words,

(44:24):
compared to what other people are saying about her, because remember,
she was this and now she's that. She was over here,
now she's over there. I'm not saying you can't change
your position. As you grow older, you change your positions
in all kinds of stuff. You're living a much different
life when you have children compared to when you don't
have children. So yes, you can grow and you can change,

(44:46):
and the philosophy and the beliefs can change when you
get into governments. Right, Like you know, every president in
the world has said this over and over again that
I can remember, you know, growing up right, I'm Reagan
to you know, you can go on and on to
the first Bush, to Clinton, and you know, to the

(45:08):
second Bush and all of them. Obama al said the
same thing. You think you can do a lot, then
you can in government and find out, can't. You know,
as president you can't do as much as you used to.
And the second thing is you think you know everything
and then you see a bigger picture. So yes, you
can evolve on all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
But who is she? Who is she?

Speaker 2 (45:32):
If I'm Trump, that's all I talk about.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Who are you? Who are you? I would like to
know who you are?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Are you Kamala who wants to essentially decriminalize people coming
here illegally?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Are you.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
That person that is pretty much as open border as
you can get? Are you for the Green New Deal
that wants to ban fracking and do all of these
things that would put us in a hole?

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Who are you?

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Who are you when it comes to dealing with the
dictators and the evils of the world. Who are you
when it comes to Israel and our allies?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Who are you?

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Because what you've said in the past, you now seem
to have changed your tune. That being said, I wouldn't know,
because you have other people tell everybody how you feel
and what you believe. Can he do that? No, he
can't because he's undisciplined. And that's unfortunate and people don't want.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
To hear that.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
But that's the reality of it. Listen to the book bill, O'Reilly,
I'm like man, so just when in my brain to
pick that out?

Speaker 7 (46:52):
The former president lacks discipline?

Speaker 21 (46:56):
Still in messaging you know when you are running for
an office and you know the deck is stacked against you,
where the media, as You's pointed out, is not going
to report anything honestly at all nothing. The Democratic Party
has got a constituency that hates you and that will
drive a vote out, doesn't matter what.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
The issues are.

Speaker 21 (47:17):
Then you have to basically figure out if I want
to win, I have to do this.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
So to me, this would be the economy above all.

Speaker 21 (47:26):
You're spending so much money on the essentials of life,
and it's because of Biden Harris, and there's no they
can't refute that.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
The numbers are the numbers. And then the border.

Speaker 21 (47:36):
I mean, I think Kamala Harris is looking foolish by saying.

Speaker 7 (47:39):
Oh, I'm a tough border queen.

Speaker 21 (47:41):
Now, all Trump's got to do is rerun the Lesser
Hope interview on NBC and Holt said, Hey, how come
you have been to the borders?

Speaker 7 (47:48):
Says I have been to the border.

Speaker 21 (47:50):
Holt goes, no, you have it, and then she goes,
I haven't been to Europe either.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
Just run that clip one hundred times again.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Challenge who are you? Everybody knows who I am? You
love me, you hate me? But you've already know what
I can do, and you've been there.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Who are you?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's what people want to know and continue to challenge her.
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Speaker 11 (49:50):
This police department, this Ferguson Police Department, since twenty fourteen,
has been a punching bag for this community. The police
department back in twenty four we don't even have them
officers here anymore. So what are you protesting? These officers
not even here no more. Everything that the activist community
has advocated for, as far as body waring, cameras, implicit

(50:11):
bias training, crisis intervention training, all this stuff, we have
done all of this.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
What are we protesting?

Speaker 11 (50:19):
What is it we even changed the uniforms at this
police department because people said that the old uniforms triggered people.
What are we doing Ten years later, I got an
officer fighting for his life. It's enough and I'm done
with it. We're not doing it here in person. Our
community is united behind us. Our community is fed up.
We want to heal. Our community want to heal. We

(50:41):
want people to peacefully protest, but we damn sure ain't
gonna allow you to destroy this city, and we ain't
gonna allow you to hurt none of these police officers.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Chief Troy Doyle right there, Ferguson, one of his police officers,
hurt really bad. They're protesting. His question is, why the
hell are you protesting? We've done everything. Those guys that
were here before they're not here anymore. We got rid
of the uniforms because they triggered people. But remember protesting

(51:10):
being an activist. If you get what you want, you
don't stop. You have to continue on. It's one of
the big things is going on in the lgbt Q
plus community.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
There's a couple of great articles out there. We might
get into it a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Over All these groups they wanted marriage equality and protection
for for you know, people in the gay community and lesbians,
they got it. Well, you can't stop there, right, you
have to continue to push on the average person who's
gay or lesbian. They're like, all right, we're fine now.
But then you move into the world of trans and

(51:43):
you bring that in and all of a sudden you've
got this battle going on.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Well, hold on a second, what's the going the hell
is going on here? Because you don't stop. If today you.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Solved hunger, those those those nonprofits, those groups they don't
just shut their doors. Oh no, they don't do no, no,
they because the whole thing is they could say they're nonprofit,
they could say they're all that we're fighting for this,
They'll find something else to fight for inside of their world.

(52:11):
They're not about solving one problems. They're about the activism
because that's the business they're in. Three two, three, five,
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be good enough and you always have to move on
to the next thing. It's not about solving that problem. Well,
hell are we fighting for those people aren't even here anymore.
Good God, Yeah, Troy was not happy there. Meanwhile, in London,
you guys ready for the Aras Tour.

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Swift will perform five shows at London's Wembley Stadium over
the next week in front of more than ninety thousand
fans per night. In addition to local police, private security
specializing in counter terrorism will reportedly be called.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
In to keep fans safe.

Speaker 22 (53:11):
Wembley Stadium says no one is allowed to stand outside
any entrance or on the Olympic steps at the front
of the stadium. Non ticket holders will be moved on
and moving forward, security experts believe protocols will be expanded
outside stadium perimeters.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
That right there is I mean they brought in and
I'm going to say this, they brought in a lot
of people that are former massage. You know they did,
but the not standing out like the whole thing about
the event. If you've seen any of the Aras tours,
it's an event. Even people who don't have tickets, they
want to congregate with other people who are obsessed and

(53:49):
in love with Taylor, So they want to feel like
we're in a group, and they're like, you can't do
it here because if you've seen some of these, some
of the concerts, they'll have twenty or thirty thousand people
out on a hill where they can still kind of
hear the music and they're all together singing.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
The songs, which is just bizarre to me. Hey, you
know what, to each their own, that's what you love doing.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
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Speaker 21 (54:16):
Show, the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Independent Thoughts, Independent life.

Speaker 9 (54:42):

Speaker 14 (54:44):
I love Trump and I do this too, but at
the end of the day, it's not the best thing
to do. Where Trump attacks people and makes fun of them,
or when the corporate media lies about Trump, he then
responds every time, because in a way, that's how they
keep you off balanced, talking about them and talk about
what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
He's right, that's Alex Jones.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I love Trump and you guys know that, and let
me tell you something about what we're gonna do to fight.
And he's responding to the fact that the other day
Trump lashed out at Joe Rogan. On the surface of it,
it's not a big deal because you're like, what the
thing is. Joe Rogan is quite the influencer when it
comes to a lot of people that are libertarian independent.

(55:25):
He's got people on the right and the left that
listen to him, and that is Trump's one of his
big issues is he absolutely goes after everybody all the time.
There's no reason, makes it personal, always makes it personal.
And I've said over and over again, don't make it personal.
It's one of the issues that I have a problem

(55:46):
with with not so much MAGA, but the people inside
of MAGA that have made it a cult that you
can't dare say anything negative about the deity.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
And by the way, this all stem.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
From Joe Rogan going, Yeah, I really like RFK Junior
because I think he tells the truth.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
This had nothing to do He didn't endorse him.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
He came out, but Trump lashed out because that's part
of the emotional side of Trump. Trump can get very
emotional if you stick to the script, and he's never
going to stick to the script. I'm going to tell
you this now. Trump is never going to stick to
the script. Trump is going to continue to be Trump,
which is I'll lash out, I'll say the things I

(56:29):
want to say. You can't stop me. I can't stop
me because it's part of that emotional side of things.

Speaker 23 (56:35):
How many of you were supporting Joe Biden fourteen days ago?

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Raise your hands, none of you.

Speaker 23 (56:41):
How many of you if the electional hell today, would
vote for the Democratic nominee Kamala Harris?

Speaker 7 (56:47):
Okay, that's all of.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
You, none of you. To all of you. And Frank
Ontz is with us.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Now, if the election were hell today, who would win?

Speaker 23 (56:55):
She would win. And I want to emphasize it's not
just about momentum, so also about passion. Harris voters are
even more eager to vote for her than Donald Trump
voters are to him.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Oh, Frank Lunz, smart guy. No he's not, because he
goes against the narrative. But here's the thing. When you
listen to this, like even we're talking about the emotion,
all the kind of stuff. You know, we never talk
about policy. None of these things ever have to do
with policy. We're not mentioning policy. We're not mentioning who's
going to be better on this or who's going to
be better on that. We mentioned none of it. It's

(57:28):
a you vibin. It's this, it is never policy. And
the last time I checked, I thought that was important.

Speaker 23 (57:36):
And another key component is exactly why this is happening.
She's talking and emphasizing her persona, her attributes, her character traits.
And that's where Donald Trump has been commenting. And the
fact is the American people do not want to hear
the same kind of negativity, the same kind of attacks
that he has been delivering. His strength is on issues,

(57:57):
most particularly the two issues that matter mode inflation and immigration.
But instead of speaking about those two issues and talking
about the failures the Biden administration, he's been making these
personal attacks and it's frankly turning the voters off that
he needs.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
To read and that's real. Don't think about it, and
I say this all the time. Don't come at it
from your world of well, everybody I know loves him.
I go, well, how many people do you know, like ten,
like where you really know what they're gonna do?

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Ten?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
How many people do you think are out there that
you don't know that may vote in this upcoming election?

Speaker 3 (58:41):
I know another hundred.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Million, Okay, so you don't know everybody and you're in
your echo chamb don't think about it from your perspective
where you are.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Try to put yourself in a different.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Perspective, which is hard for us to do because we
don't like doing that anymore.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
You mean, leave my tribe. I'm not talking about it
for real.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I'm talking about go out there in your mind and think, Okay,
are there other people that have different views Tony, and
maybe even people that are kind of in the middle,
which is the hardest thing for people to understand because
the people that live over on the right, especially the
far right and the far left, they believe what's wrong

(59:21):
with you? Like why Cay, just make up your mind?
Because I'm I this is to me, it's not the
cult to personality. Like I look over and I say,
I like a lot of what you're saying over here, Trump,
I do, But can you pull it off? And what

(59:43):
kind of drama are you going to be? And why
aren't you saying it more? And do you have the discipline?
I look over here at a common ago the message
of upbeat and the world's not coming to an end.
I like that better than the all the negativity. But
the reality is is I don't even know who the
hell you are. And again I'm coming at it from
so but who's independent? Think about those people, disgruntle democrat,

(01:00:03):
discrumpled Republican, whichever, but think about put that in your mind, which.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Is hard for people to do. Step out of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Frank Lentz has said it over and over again. We
have said it over and over again. Stick to the
script and you win. You've already got a lot going
against you when it comes to the media, who are
apparently never going to be curious about interviewing her. You've
already got things going against you when it comes to
the Democrats themselves having a much better machine than the

(01:00:36):
Republicans do when it comes to elections. But on the issues,
which is the only thing that matters, you've got that.
The problem is, your delivery isn't very good. You get emotional,
you become personal, it becomes undisciplined, and the message doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Reach the people it needs to reach.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
And when it does, it comes across in such a
negative way that it's a turnoff and they're not interested.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
One thing I know.

Speaker 21 (01:01:03):
About Donald Trump is that he's very emotional guy. People
don't think he's emotional, but he is. But he isn't
like a guy who is internalizing what I should do.
He just flies and he doesn't really think about the
repercussions of what he says, and that's hurting him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
And last night it was so funny. I text my
uncle because he was listening to her. You listen, I say, ye,
I'm listening. I said, he should never do anything with
an audience until he's either elected or he's not elected.
He's just gonna do allies whatever he does. Should never
do anything because part of it is he also feeds
off the audience. And if the audience is negative and

(01:01:39):
they want him to say negative things, he's totally going
to do that. And as somebody I look around, I
said this all the time. We're blessed to be in
this country. We're blessed to live here. You look around
the globe. Even for all the stuff that we think
we're going in the wrong direction, we're sitting in a
much better place than yes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
A lot of other westernized countries. We are so blessed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Our inflation can imperativity to a lot of countries is
minimal compared to them. Sucks for us, and our standards different.
But the reality is we are blessed. A little positivity
once in a while would be good. You've got to
deliver that to the people. You've got immigration and inflation
in front of you, the two big issues that people

(01:02:20):
are paying attention to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
You have got that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
You got to start delivering on that message, and being
disciplined is going to be a part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
And if you can't, well, then there's a chance you're
going to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
And I know that people out there, oh my god,
how could because he can? And it's a very real
possibility that everything you hear about Vice President Harris, as
far as the momentum and all of that stuff, could
be as what they call AstroTurf, where a lot of

(01:02:53):
it is surface, but underneath it maybe it's not there
like you think. And when push comes to shove and
she's got to go debate and things start to take
a little bit of a turn for the negative for
her and that momentum slows down, how do you handle that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
And she could lose.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Stick to the message, deliver the thing that the people
want to be delivered and what they want to hear.
Keep it policy not personal. And I think you win
if you make it all about personal and you make
it all about the martyrdom. It's not a winning formula

(01:03:35):
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I like, yeah, so what it's the Chat Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
What does it mean to be a vampire?

Speaker 24 (01:05:29):
It means something different to everybody. I can list a
few of broad topics here. You have a different types
of feeders, you have different types of beliefs. You have
sanguine feeders, you have psychic feeders, you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Have sexual feeders.

Speaker 24 (01:05:42):
You also have people who like myself, are into the
philosophy of being a vampire. That's that's that's a whole
bag of whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:05:51):
They're right there.

Speaker 24 (01:05:53):
There's people who are using it as part of their
religious practices. There are people who are role players. They
are people who just like to, you know, go on
the weekend and dress up that right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
There is a guy named Mavin. There's a new documentary
coming out called gem City. It's about vampires in Dayton, Ohio.
Because what I think vampires. I don't think Romania, right,
the Carpathian Mountains, vlat Tepeshti and Paler. I don't think
about Count Dracula. I don't think about any of those things.

(01:06:25):
I think Dayton, Ohio. Damn, vampires are all over Dayton.
But apparently somebody was beheaded, which is very not vampirey.
And so there's a lot of this documentary. You know,
it's kind of like a like you see a lot
of these murdered documentaries, but this one has a different

(01:06:46):
twist because it's vampires in Dayton.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
In Dayton, they asked Maven, hey, maybe you drink blood.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
I think that's the most.

Speaker 24 (01:06:55):
Boring topic, to be honestly, it's just like what people say, Hey,
do you drink blood? The first thing he asked, and
I was like, you know, I've done all these things
in my life. I've been all these places. You want
to know what I have for breakfast?

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Well, yeah, because that's kind of the thing. I mean. Okay,
can you fly? Can you turn into a bat? Can
you what can you do?

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
What are the limits to your vampiring skills? By the way,
way do you find out what he does for a job?
Which is also a big blow to the vampire community,
cuz vampires aren't supposed to have jobs. I've seen a
lot of vampire movies, right, they mostly don't have jobs.
Although the funniest vampire show and movie most entertaining is

(01:07:39):
what we do in the Shadows. They don't have jobs
except for one who does have a job, and his
thing is he's an energy vampire and he destroys you
by sucking your energy to live. By the way, Maven
has a girlfriend, not a shocker.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Her name's Pixie.

Speaker 8 (01:07:58):
I don't identify as a vam. I identify more as
faith generally. I came into the vampire scene it was
like my friends were goth heavy metal people and we
all ordered it around each other. It was like it
didn't matter. Some people were fangs, some people were super

(01:08:18):
spiked hair, some people were just different.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
This was for me.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
It was early twenty ten's when I was around people.
From what I understand, it was like. It's interesting because
I never actually asked any of my vampire friends if
they drank blood. I would ask, because you knew better. No,
I would ask, how did you get your fangs?

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
That was my that was your big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Well, luckily you've got a boyfriend who has got quite
the job.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
That's right.

Speaker 24 (01:08:50):
I'm a fang smith.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
And how does that?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
How you do it?

Speaker 24 (01:08:55):
I took a mole of someone's teeth, I used real
dental attlecrylic, I popped them, mold off, shave it down,
polish it and pretty much that's it. I mean, that's
that's the basic gist of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
That's Maven there. He's a vampire, not in real life.
He actually goes on to talk about a little bit.
You know, Look, I don't bring this into real life,
which is you know, it's just some peoples want to
dress up, have fun, some people want to you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Just you find in your culture.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
That is what it is. You find your freak. Baby,
And if being a vampire is your thing, knock yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Out in Dayton. Yeah, and Dayton. I guess there was
a murder. They beheaded the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
A doctor actually went undercover just to find out what
the culture was like in vampire world.

Speaker 25 (01:09:46):
Yeah, it was an interesting experience. I was. I wanted
to find out what happened to this missing woman, and
because I had done some writing with Van Rice on
there were guides to her vampire universe. I wanted to
go into this world. My literary agent thought I could
get in, and I did, and I went to the parties.

(01:10:09):
I went to meet people alone at night in various places.
I went to a number of different events to find
out what this subculture was about, hopefully to find this woman.
I didn't find her, but I did find out a
lot about the people and why they were so attracted
to this subculture.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
So attracted to the subculture. Is it legal to be
a vampire? Meaning can you drink people's blood?

Speaker 25 (01:10:39):
It's legal to voluntarily share blood with other people, But
there were people like John Crutchley comes to mind, where
he would abduct women, hold them captive, and drink their
blood and that is illegal.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
Yeah, of course, clearly.

Speaker 25 (01:10:58):
He's crossing a line. There depends on what they're doing
with it and whether the people involved are are doing
this voluntarily?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Oh good God. See other shows. I'll talk politics twenty
four to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
I want to know about vampire culture because I find
it fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
There are so many people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Think about some of the people you work with, you
have no idea what they're like in their private life.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Some of you you have good friends, you do know.
But there's those other ones. You're like, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Right that person there could be going to vampire parties
on the weekend, no idea if they're doing vampire stuff,
zero idea. It could be out doing vampirey things. I
don't know about that. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't.
Maybe they think they're were wolves. You don't know. It's
weird if they're were wolves. Ye never have a were
wolf culture, do they like we have vampire because vampires

(01:11:50):
are smooth and cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
They are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
They're like, what's up? I got a big castle. I
don't really have a job. I am a multi kazillionaire.
You know. Usually have some sort of count in front
of my name, so I get a bit of royalty
in me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Never have vampire.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
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She's from the Rebellion Pack. It's a progressive fact. We

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had a great conversation yesterday, and I think it shows
that we are closer as far as our beliefs, even
conservatives and somewhat progressive. She's not as progressive as I think.
You know a lot of people out there who are
just wackadoo's. We are closer our beliefs than most people realize,
and the extremes are separating us, and we've got to
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We're going to more from her.

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Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
This is the Chad Benson Show, Independent Thoughts, Independent Life,

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Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
I want you to think of this election like a trial,
because it kind of is, and America is the jury,
Kamala is the defendant. She has character witnesses, she has
all of this stuff going, and her campaign is proving

(01:13:56):
to the American people, at least at this moment in time,
that she's not guilty of flopping flop flipping, flip flopping.
If you ask any trial attorney worth their weight in gold, salt,
or whatever is the going currency for stuff that you're
worth your weight in, it's never diamonds.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
And it should be what do they say.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I would never let my client get on the stand ever,
unless it's absolutely positively necessary, because we know it is
the only thing that may save your client. So until
she is absolutely one percent forced to take the stand,

(01:14:42):
she is not going to. She's not going to at all,
and why would she. She has no reason to the
world's changing in a major way, and it's changing fast.
And yes, the likes of TikTok is playing a huge
role in that. David from former beach runner for the
White House with w so Iver at The Atlantic, now

(01:15:03):
I think it's an editor. They asked him, Hey, you
think he's ever going to sit down? Because quite frankly,
she's not very good at that and that's been her
weak spot.

Speaker 18 (01:15:12):
I imagine she will I don't know, but the way
you communicate presidential campaigns is also a little different in
the TikTok era from the way it was in the network.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Don think she doesn't think candidates have to do these
interviews at all from the network.

Speaker 18 (01:15:26):
And you also sit down with different kinds of people
that in the TikTok era from what you did. You know, Look,
this is television. I don't want to say anything disrespectful
of television. But if we were on radio in nineteen
fifty wondering when is the candidate going to sit next
to a next his or her next interview on a
mutual broadcasting system, they say, well, there's this thing called
television that has come along and it may be changing politics.

(01:15:48):
And TikTok has done the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
TikTok has done the same thing. But here's my thing
as a jury member, I would like to hear from
that person because I am not sold that you've changed
your beliefs. I think you are lying about that. I
find it odd that you have gone from open up

(01:16:13):
the borders and if you come here, it's a civil fine,
it's not illegal.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
I find it odd that you didn't like fracking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
You were the biggest proponent of the Green New Deal,
and all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Fracking's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
We can go on and on, and there's plenty of them.
Why have you changed your position?

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
I think the other jurors should be curious into this,
don't you. And the TikTok thing is a very real thing.
People are doing things differently, zero problem with that. That's great.
Embrace the new technology, embrace all of that stuff. But
eventually you have to put up the goods and you
have to sell your vision to the American people, to
the jury, you would like to think. The problem is

(01:16:53):
the jury seems completely disinterested in anything outside of the
fact that the person that is to prosecute, if you will,
the political crime against her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
And we're just using metaphors here. Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
They can't stand him. He's evil and Badney's mean, and
so in their mind he's automatically wrong, even if in
the bigger picture he's completely right. He's completely right. Could
be because I don't know what she thinks, and I
don't think she knows what she thinks. I think she's
at a point where and I've been saying this forever
in a day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
She is playing a part.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Here are your lines, don't flub them, don't improvise, Go
out do your thing here. If you want to improvise,
you've got this little spot to improvise. But these are
the two or three things you can improvise on outside
of that, don't improvise and.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
She goes and she plays her lines back to TikTok.

Speaker 26 (01:17:48):
Yes, the other day I received an email or a
paid promotion, paid for me to make a video and
post it on TikTok talking about the democratic side. At
the end of this email says, if you want to
get the go in, we'll send over an NDA for
you to sign and we'll get started. I know a
lot of people get their views and their opinions and
their beliefs based off of what their favorite influencers are saying.

(01:18:12):
Just know they might have been paid to say the
things they're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
By the way, if you're going to pay me enough,
Kamala or Trump, Yeah, a little horre for money, I'll
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Chad.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
I'm saying, I have a price. Is it your integrity?
What's that cost? And if you were taking any advice
from a TikTok influencer. Now, if it's makeup or anything
like that, you know, knock yourself out, that's fine they're using.

(01:18:48):
But if you're going to sow and so right, you know,
Frumpy mcfrump person, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Like, oh my god, I'm fromping mcfrum person.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Look at me job about fund stuff. If you're taking
advice like Frumpy, he's totally voting for so and so,
you're you're a boob. You're an idiot to the research,
which people won't. Last night, Trump if you wanted to,
you could have listened. Didn't start out well, let's be real,

(01:19:17):
but you know he did two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
He sounded like he was slurring his words.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Chad, do I think it makes a difference now because
I think the people he needs to reach weren't listening.
Let me tell you, I was listening people who were
maybe like me, in the business of politics and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
People that love Trump and people that hate Trump. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
The individual who's working two jobs because inflation's kicking him
straight in the grundle, probably not paying attention.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
They're busy. The mom and dad who are busting their butts.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
They got a small business and they got two kids,
and one's in trumpet and the others in soccer at
the school started this week and they got to go here,
probably not listening, they'll catch soundbites. That's why this TikTok
eighty h world works for a lot of people because
SoundBite here, SoundBite there. But you've got to make the
case to the American people. That's why I keep saying
the biggest jury in the world is going to be
the American voter. And right now I don't think the

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jury's out, but maybe getting closer to going out for sure.
And Trump's got to figure out a way to pitch
those people who are frustrated Republicans, upset Democrats, true nomads
of independence who don't pay a lot of attention or

(01:20:45):
maybe vote all over the place, if they vote at all.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
How do you reach them?

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
One thing's for sure, don't make it about you as
best as you can, which is hard. I said earlier.
I was going to tell you this, Democrats, you're lucky.
You are so lucky right now that you are facing
Donald Trump. If this was jd Vance, he would smoke you.

(01:21:17):
But he said cat lady things.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
He would eat you alive. He would not that I'm
a huge fan of JD fans. I don't feel I'm
not a huge fan of any politician.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
The only reason this thing's even close based on where
we are think about it. We have rampant illegal immigration.
We have an inflation that is still kicking us straight
in the grondle. Your life is not better and cheaper
than it was a few years ago. We have one
potentially two massive conflicts. One's a war, the other's a

(01:21:51):
conflict that may become a war. We can go on
and on. If it was anybody but Trump. This is
if this was Nicky Haley versus Harris, Oh my god,
are we having this conversation?

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
No, even it was JD. Vance.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
I mean they like pushing back on him, and he's fun.
But the reality is when he sits down and he
talks with him, which he does, he more than holds
his own. The only reason this is close at this
moment in time, even with everything going for the Democrats,
the media, the excitement right, all of the the only

(01:22:33):
reason it's close is because you're going up against the
very flawed candidate who has a lot of good ideas.
He is I've if you ever watch sports like I do,
I like to use analogis caause sports is very real life.
There's always that one guy on a team that is,

(01:22:57):
you know, or in the league that is beyond brilliant,
has all these great eyes, great moves, he's got these
great this, he's got these great that he's a winner.
But at the same time, he will do the dumbest things.
A lot of that's kind of like Trump. I didn't
feel like playing today, okay, but when he's on, is

(01:23:18):
nobody better. That's a lot of what Trump is just
what drives me crazy about him at times you need
him to be disciplined. It's never gonna happen. Trump is
gonna be who he is. But that's the only reason
this is close. And even for all of the crap

(01:23:41):
that Trump has caused himself, all of the stuff that
has happened to him, and yes, some of it is
absolutely ridiculous, the ridiculous charges from Alvin Bragg in New York,
even through all of that stuff, it's still neck and
neck things to think about. Three two, three, five, three eight,

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Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Biden doesn't even know where he's at. He is clueless.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
The economy is kicking everybody straight in the foot, and
yet it's still tied. And that showed the weaknesses and
some of the flaws in Trump. And now we can
reverse that. She's got all the momentum, she's got everything
in her corner. She's got everybody pushing for her, from
Hollywood to the music industry to to you know, the

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media establishment, all of that stuff. And you can say, now,
but it's still tied.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I was turning on the old indwebs on this Tuesday.
Where do we start? How about Yahoo Today? Yeah, Tom Cruise,
Elon Musk, Taylor Swift, Resilient Plane Crash, The Australian Breakdancer,

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Steph Curry.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
The Australian Breakdancer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Still is very interesting because now people are saying that
it was all fake. She did what she did so
she could get a free ticket to Paris, and she
didn't take it seriously because it was supposed to be
some sort of statement to the world about something. And
I think that's even worse, by the way, if if
your goal was to send a statement to the world,

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it didn't work the way you thought, and it makes
it worse because other people were there to compete from
your country. She was sending a statement about colonialism or something.
I'm like, oh my god, kidding me. Set over to
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of a lot of stuff, and Pokemon passed away yesterday
breast cancer, aged forty six. Yankees, Red Sox Yankees, Red Sox,
Vince Vaughan.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
He got his uh got himself the old star on
the Old Walk of Fame. There's what he did, got
a star on the Walk of Fame. Yep, yep, it's
what he did. Or Nesto the Hurricane or Nesto the Hurricane.
Doesn't that sound like a boxer?

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Ernesto the Hurricane Reygun break dancing video. They're everywhere, kids,
people are looking her up. Or tell me a little
bit more about this this lady, this breakdancer, Time Magazine cover,
My god, also trending. Did you see that the fawning
over her is spectacular? Over Kamala, we couldn't get an

(01:28:51):
interview with her because they wouldn't give us one, so
we just made up all the things we thought she
would say it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Oh my god, she's even more amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
I did listen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
I gotta be honest with you, if you've been listening
to show, I listened to about ninety plus percent of it.
Did he sound like he was slurring? It's hard to tell.
He sounded like he was on a First of all,
they talked over each other way too much. Were there
times where it sounded like he had a bit of
a lisp or something?

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
He also did two hours and you know what, Kamala
doesn't do two hours. You know what, she doesn't do
two questions? Why would you? I keep saying that to
everybody until you have to? Why would you until you
have to have a conversation with somebody because you're forced
to have the conversation because you need it to win.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Why would you? And she doesn't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Now I'm hoping the journalists, not the media, let's separate
the two that at some point in time, serious journalists
who aren't into the hyperbolic, you know, screaming and yelling,
trying to get clicks and everything start to come out
and say, all right, you're gonna have to start answering questions.
Because we're not your campaign, even though we may be pulling.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
For you, you need.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
To answer some questions. Does that happen soon? I don't know,
not before the big convention. I will tell you that
right now. I don't think it's going to happen before then.
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Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
I don't do things the way that other people do.
That's how I do my show.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
And when I saw her the other day on TV,
I said, I want to talk to her. So I
reached out to her. She was kind enough to say, yes,
I'll have a conversation with you, which is amazing. Her
name is Brianna Wu. She's the executive director of Rebellion Pack.
It's a progressive pack what and.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
You know what? She's not nuts?

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
No, And I think if we have conversations again with
each other, you'll find out that most of us agree
with a lot of the same things. Brianna, thank you
so much for coming on the show today. And I
loved you on Dan Abrams and I thought to myself,
she's not crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
That is a win for America.

Speaker 9 (01:32:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:32:02):
I was really happy you invited me on Chad because
I feel the same way about a lot of conservatives.
After October seventh, I think it's been a really good
time for us to stop as Americans, not left versus right,
and realize that there's actually a lot that we agree on.
You know, I think if you and I sat down,
we might disagree on the top marginal tax rate, but

(01:32:22):
we would probably agree that, you know, this kind of
theocratic Islamicism is a threat to Western democracy. You know,
we would probably agree that Iran is not so well.
Wish you continue capitulating to So I think it's it's
good for us to have a dialogue and just remember
what brings us all together.

Speaker 13 (01:32:40):
So thank you so much for having me here.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
I'm on your Twitter and it makes me laugh because
I watch you. You'll say something and you one of
the things you talk about how many friends you've lost
in the last year, you know, since October seventh, who
you thought were friends, but come to find out when
it came to you know, Israel and what took place,
you guys apparently aren't friends.

Speaker 13 (01:33:00):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (01:33:01):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:33:01):
It's funny because I grew up in Mississippi and for
a long time I just thought the anti Semites were
on the right. Just to be really honest with you,
I thought it was the people on my block growing
up that couldn't accept having a Jewish neighbor and pressured
them to leave the neighborhood. Come to find out, there
are a lot more of them on the left, and
they're held to double standards. They are not asked to

(01:33:24):
pay a social price in the same way. And I
just flat out don't understand where the rest of the
Democrats are standing up to this trash. You know, if
there's a difference in Nazis marching on Charlottesville saying Jews
will not replace this and Corey Bush making a quote
unquote concession speech saying Jews are replacing our politicians, I

(01:33:45):
can't see it.

Speaker 13 (01:33:46):
This is disgusting. We need to call it out. It's
not the kind of country I want to live in.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
It's not the country I want to live into.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
And I get called out a lot by the people
on the far right because I call out the BS
and their lunacy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Because it needs to be called that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
I always tell everybody, if you don't police your own
then you don't deserve to be any kind of police.

Speaker 7 (01:34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:34:03):
So, I mean, how do you think you and I
work together to kind of pull this country back together?

Speaker 13 (01:34:09):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:34:10):
Because what I've found in the last year is if
I go and talk to my Republican friends, I think
directually we care about a lot of the same issues.
We have different ideas how to solve it. But you know,
Democrats don't have a monopoly on wanting their local school
to be better for their kids. Democrats don't have a
monopoly of being frustrated about healthcare costing so high. Republicans

(01:34:33):
don't have a monopoly on inflation like making it very
hard for normal people to afford groceries. So how do
you get your side and how do I get my
side to put down this culture war and for us
to start figuring out the things that we agree on
so we can get some public policy done for the
American people.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
You know what's funny is I ask myself this all
the time, and I say, I'm part of the exhaust majority.
Some people a little bit right, some people a little
bit left. We all kind of want the same thing.
Save schools. We want a border that is welcoming, but
not just to sieve where just anybody can walk in
anytime they want. We want a strong military that can

(01:35:11):
not only be a helper but also a de terms
all these things. We may go about a different way
of getting there, but I think until the exhausted majority,
you and I had a bunch of other people who
are truly the eighty five ninety percent of America stands
up and takes the bully pulpit away from everybody else,
it's going to be tough to turn it around.

Speaker 13 (01:35:28):
I agree.

Speaker 12 (01:35:29):
And yeah, just to come back to the border issue,
I don't understand where the frack the Democrats are.

Speaker 13 (01:35:35):
On this issue.

Speaker 12 (01:35:36):
You know, I actually ran for Congress, which means I
got off my couch, I got off Twitter, and I
went and talked to I entered it up. One time,
I had like almost one hundred thousand conversations with people
in Massachusetts. And what I don't understand is why the
Democratic Party doesn't understand that normal people aren't with our
fringe view on this.

Speaker 13 (01:35:58):
People want an orderly border for people to come in.

Speaker 12 (01:36:01):
They don't want the sex trafficking, they don't want fentanyl
being smuggled in. They want some sort of situation applying
to it. And there's just no objective way to look
at this situation and think it's serving national security or
our labor markets or anything. And I just don't understand
why Democrats will get more serious about this. I agree

(01:36:23):
with you on this because I'm a feminist. I don't
want little girls being sex trafficked across our lower border.
Where's the rest of my party on this?

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
I don't know, And you know, it frustrates me because
I have most of my friends who grew up in
southern California. Most of my friends are on the left,
and they're like, this is not normal. It's like we
should do something about this, but everybody seems to be terrified.
And let me ask you this, Bryan, and I'm gonna
throw this at you, because I think this is real.
I think the problem is is we have two parties

(01:36:54):
and they're really two corporations and at the end of
the day, they don't want to play with anybody else
but the two corporations because they're fine being Coke and PEPSI.
They don't want a doctor Pepper, they don't want a
seven up. They don't want anybody else in their world
that will upset the Apple card. And the issue is
far more important than the actual fix.

Speaker 13 (01:37:12):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (01:37:13):
I can tell you someone that does political fundraising. If
I send out a fundraising email and it says, hey,
I can work with the Republicans on this border policy,
will you please donate so we can facilitate some common
sense legislation between the two, that's not going to do
very well as a political fundraiser. If I put out
a fundraising letter and it's like, look at this stupid

(01:37:36):
thing Donald Trump said, and that's going to take away
your healthcare, that's.

Speaker 13 (01:37:39):
Going to do very well. So the problem is.

Speaker 12 (01:37:42):
None of the incentives are aligned for us to even
talk to each other, much less work together on legislation.
So it is I think it's fundamentally a broken system.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Talking with Brianna Wu, executive director of Rebellion Pack, you know,
when you look at the system, and for me, I
look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
My friend.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Stration is is we are at a place in our
time when it comes to media and everything else where
information doesn't matter, affirmation is more important. But on top
of that, now entertainment is as important as anything else
when it comes to an election or any kind of policy.

Speaker 12 (01:38:15):
That's right, it's you know. And the other thing is
elections are one by They used to be won by persuasion,
and today I think they're one by passion, and a
lot of that passion is for genming up anger at
the other person. And yeah, I want to be clear,
like I'm not going to be voting for Donald Trump
because of like NATO is the main reason I think

(01:38:37):
NATO is helping us avoid World War three, and the
Republican Party is to isolationists for my take. But I
also think the Democratic Party has skated by for the
last eight years by just attacking the Republicans NonStop. And
I think the reason Biden was such an extraordinarily weak
candidate is because he never bothered to articulate a positive

(01:38:59):
vision and for the country where he would go out
in front of cameras and actually say that to the
American people. It was always just look at how terrible
the Republicans are, so I think until more of us
are willing to find that common ground and say it
with our chest publicly, I think we're going to be
stuck in this country that is stupider and more divided,

(01:39:21):
and easier for our foreign adversaries like China, Russia and
get to a lesser extent, Iran to basically get their
propaganda in here and.

Speaker 13 (01:39:31):
Have us do what they want instead of what we
should do.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
When you look out there, like I look at Tim
Walls and again I think a lot of what he
did in Minnesota is kind of wacky, but you know,
it is what it is. He's just the swallow guy
and the likes of Kamal Ayers, I don't she needs
to speak at some point in time. I think you
agree with that this love affair is bizarre with her
and they're champing her away, and I think a lot

(01:39:55):
of times the media is part feels like they're part
of the resistance. But the fact is is, I don't
know how she's going to be with I think I
think she's going to be far more She's going to
push back far harder on Israel than Biden is, because
I don't think Biden even knows what's going on half
the time. And I don't think Tim Wallas is going
to be much of a help either. I don't think
they're going to be a fan of of Israel. When

(01:40:17):
I look forward here, I think I get worried about that.

Speaker 12 (01:40:20):
I am fortunately agree with you. I will say this openly.
I'm completely uncertain of Kamala's commitment to Israel. I've looked
through her public statements on this and they feel really lukewarm.
And you know, frankly her, you know, fangirling and tolerating
the pro Hamas wing of our party.

Speaker 13 (01:40:40):
Is not acceptable for me.

Speaker 12 (01:40:42):
I can tell you in good faith. This is the
calculus that I have that no matter what the president
and how the president feels, you know, there's an isolationist
flavor to the Republican Party that I find really really
disturbing you. I think I grew up in Mississippi. Ronald

(01:41:03):
Reagan was my president. Top gun was the top movie.
G I, Joe, we're our toys, and I want in
America that is strong and engaged in the world and
pursuing alliances and having a strong economy because we are
trading with countries like India and China, and we're bringing
the best goods to market and sharing technology with our allies.

(01:41:26):
That is the kind of worldwide leadership that I want.
So it's a really difficult calculus for me personally that
you know, I see this isolationism, and I'm going, well,
I'm going to trust the rest of the party to
not let her do crazy things, even if I am
personally unsure of where she stands on that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
What do you think this goes?

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
How do we get through and have real conversations with
people both the right and the left that aren't caught
up in the extremes of stuff. Because eventually, like everything else,
I think the extremes will run out of steam and
the rest of the world will get back to some
normal way of life. How do we make that happen quicker?

Speaker 12 (01:42:04):
I think the Democrats need to show some good faith
and start getting rid of the crazies in our party.
I'm not aware of the Republicans that went and catered
to the Nazis in Charlottesville that we're carrying tiki torches.
I'm not aware of that. But we're wringing our hands
over these people that want to support Hamas in Michigan.

Speaker 13 (01:42:24):
Give me a break.

Speaker 12 (01:42:25):
I think if we took a harder line with our crazies,
with the people that want to tell you that your
public school should be able to transition your child and
you not know about it, and the people that are
cheerleading Iran over their own country until we show some
good faith and excize some of this cancer, if that's

(01:42:45):
on our side, I think it's really harm for Republicans
to feel good enough about talking to us. So I
think Democrats need to take out some garbage, and I
think we need to make the first step and reach
out to y'all and see if we can start to
have civil conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Rianna Wu love having you on the program. I appreciate it,
Thanks so much, and I look forward to doing it again.

Speaker 13 (01:43:05):
Yep, we'll do it soon.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
I love that that is a conversation between who two people,
one on the right, one on the left, and guess what,
we have a lot that we agree about. Conversations matter,
Open up your mind, talk to other people, find out
where they are, because I don't think people do that enough.
And we've got more of that. We're going to post
some of it. And I love having people like that

(01:43:29):
on the show. Interesting, smart, and we don't have to
agree on everything. But uh, and as she points out,
as I have done in the past, so many of
us right and left want the same thing. How we
get there we differ, and in many cases who should
pay for it?

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
We differ.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
But when I talk to smart people, I find that
it's way better than talking to idiots three two, three, five,
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you know what, she's a smart person and that's a
good thing. And I've got some people, said, I really
enjoyed that. I've had some people, so I can't believe
you had somebody from the other side on She's not

(01:44:10):
from the other side. She's an American, she's a voter.
She cares about the country. The way that we want
to get to, the places we want to get to
may be different, but we all want the same thing,
and she wants a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Of what Republicans want.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
We just need to figure out a way to have conversations.
Part of it is making it interesting. Oh yeah, that's
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you got fast charging, on top of that, got noise cancelation,
on top of that multi connectivity. What eight hours of
talk time, thirty two hours of battery life and they
start well und one hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
How about this, I'm gonna save you an extra fifty percent.

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No way, Chad? Can you do anything better than that?
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the everyday yearbuds. You're not happy with these, sent it
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Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
We'll wrap it up straight ahead right here on the
Chad Benson Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Welcome to chest ched No, not the country, the institution,
the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
The election's coming up and the people want to hear
about the economy and the fact that they can't buy
groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries.
The inflation has killed them. Food prices are up fifty
to sixty even one hundred percent in some cases. This
stupid registration allows this to happen, and it's a shame.
And that's the thing that people most care about. In
my opinion, they care about the border a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
I don't know if he's slurring, but he sure sounds
a little bit like Sylvester Friend truck of cash. Yeah, oh,
I'm gonna get yelled that for that. It was Trump
and Elon last night. He was slurring his words. I
said it earlier. I'll say it again. Democrats, the Republicans
are pissed off. You got rid of Joe Biden. You
guys might want to just go. He sounds great if
you think you're going to be able to skate through

(01:46:29):
without any real issues here, because you've got all the momentum,
at least in your mind. Because as I said it earlier,
if it's anybody but Trump, I think you guys get
bout raised. And even with all the hell going on
and everything against Trump. It's neck and neck. Think about that.
On to more pressing issues.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 28 (01:46:48):
Multiple stops along the ear As Tool have had outdoor
areas for non ticket holders to listen to the concerts,
but Wembley posting on their event page that anyone without
a ticket should not travel to Wembley Stadium. No one's
allowed to stand outside any entrance, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
A big, huge deal for the Swifty folk. They love
to congregate together. They love to be together, they want
to be around each other, and they'll gather in the
tens of thousands, twenty thirty thousands, and they'll stand outside
of the stadium and I'll listen to music. Because of
what happened in Austria and the fear of what could
happen soft targets, No, the.

Speaker 29 (01:47:24):
UK authorities say there's no increased threat.

Speaker 28 (01:47:27):
They're highly experience in policing these kind of events. Even
the State Department hasn't increased its advice. And you know,
I've just been down there.

Speaker 29 (01:47:33):
I just spoke to a couple of Swifties already, they've
got their T shirts on. They're super excited about the
next few days. They said, of course they were affected
by what happened in Austria. They felt bad for the fans,
they felt bad for Taylor Swift, but nothing was going
to dampen their excitement.

Speaker 28 (01:47:47):
About what's about to happen here.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
By the way, I just love the facts that Ian
Panell called them swifties. Ah is that time of the show.
Talk a little stupid information.

Speaker 7 (01:47:57):
And then I go and smile it all. I say something.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Stupid, the stupid pills this morning.

Speaker 29 (01:48:03):
It's the honest ones you want to watch out for
because you can never predict.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
They're going to do something incredibly stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
Now you're the fact stupid one with the big mouth
is stupid.

Speaker 9 (01:48:14):
Little as time.

Speaker 28 (01:48:16):
You should never underestimize the predictability of stupidity.

Speaker 13 (01:48:20):
Now it's time for.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
Stupid information.

Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
Today.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Talk a little bit about Lincoln. Stuff you didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Not only was he tall six ' four, this big dude,
he also had a big hat. You know what he
kept in there, documents, government documents, speeches. He liked the
convenience of being able not to stick stuff inside of
his pockets, but to actually keep it in his hat.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Little things you didn't know, but now you do.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Three two, three, five, three eight twenty four to twenty
three at Chad Benson Show is your Twitter tweet at
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Solid fun show is always on this awesome Tuesday. A
lot of stuff we got to today. Yes, we did
talk about vampires if you missed it in the last hour.
We talked about vampires because of the new documentary coming

(01:49:10):
out about vampires and Dayton, Ohio by the way, but
it's also about a murder that took place potentially there
were the vampires.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Involved, or what's it werewolves.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
You can always follow the show across all the social
media at Chad Benson Show three two, three, five, three eight,
twenty four twenty three Text the program as well, right
there at those numbers. And thank Breonna Woof for coming
on today from the Rebellion Pack because I thought it
was great to have a conversation with somebody who was
it ever mindset in the world of politics in life.
You guys, have a blessed rest of your Tuesday.

Speaker 26 (01:49:38):
I'm not really a fan of Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
We know you're not going to Tacos night night Jack.

Speaker 9 (01:49:43):
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