Kamala Harris addresses policy shifts in CNN interview

Kamala Harris addresses policy shifts in CNN interview. Dem VP candidate Tim Walz blames his passion for exaggerated service claims during CNN interview. The Gatorwine trend. Trump says IVF costs would be covered if he is elected. MIT studies what dogs dream about. NHL star killed by drunk driver. Harris blames Trump for killing immigration reform. MD. man alleges racial slur printed on Chick-fil-A receipt . 

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Independent thoughts, Independent life. This is Chad Benson.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
My name is Craig Collins, filling in, thrilled to be
with you. Chad is back after the holiday. Kamala Harris
and Tim Walls actually did an interview yesterday, the first
time they've done an interview in a while, or well
at all, since she's become the Democratic nominee for president.
There are some questions, and there are not a lot
of answers that are provided. I'll start with the clip

(00:40):
that you probably saw even before last night, if you
watched last night, or if you've actually seen anything today
now at some point maybe on social media where I
think a lot of people actually get this stuff now.
But this is my values haven't changed answer. And there's
a whole lot of values that have changed. Actually, Trump
War and some other places on Twitter put up a

(01:02):
list of things that she previously supported that she didn't
exactly deny still supporting, and there are a couple examples
of things she has fully flip flopped on.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
But nonetheless, let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
This is the audio first, the audio that was already
getting played before the interview even happened. Last night of
her saying that she's not a flip flopper. How dare
anybody call her?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
That is?

Speaker 6 (01:25):
My values have not changed. There's no question I'm in
favor of banning for I think, you know, we have
to stay woke, like everybody needs to be woke. And
you can talk about if you're the wokest or woke
he just stay more woke than less woke.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
With people who are convicted in prison, like the Boston
marathon bomber on death row, people who are.

Speaker 8 (01:48):
Convicted of sexual assault, they should be able to vote.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
I think we should have that conversation about.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
You do about the millions of specifically assault weapons that
are all in circulation.

Speaker 9 (02:00):
What do you do about those?

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Well, there are approximately five million two point craig. We
have to have a buyback program, and I support a
mandatory buyback program.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
It is take her outdated.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
It is wrong headed thinking to think that the only
way you're going to get communities to be safe is
to put more police officers on the street.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, this is just a few examples of all the
crazy things she said. And again, as the start of
that clip shows, she said her values have not changed,
even though what's really happened is she ran as a
crazy far left. I think the Trump War room Twitter
actually called her a San Francisco radical, which is easily
what she was, the furthest left senator of any senator

(02:38):
at that time.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
And now she's got to appeal to the massets.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
So let's say totally different stuff and hope it works,
and then who knows what actually happens when you get
in a position of power. Other things that happened last night,
this was the most incredible, I think to me, it
was personally the most incredible. And here's a part of
it that I don't understand, and it was a Tim
Walls answer to a question. A lot of people are saying,
you had a month to come up with a better answer.

(03:04):
I've seen that a lot of places, even conservative places,
that are crapping all over Tim for what he said.
And this is in response to the stolen valor accusations
that have been made toward him talking about reaching a
title that he didn't actually retire from the National Guard with,
or also saying that he carried his weapon in war
when he did not do that. Those are things that

(03:25):
matter to other veterans. It doesn't mean that you're disparaging
the fact that he served at all, which was basically
his defense for it is to say I would never
say anything negative about anyone who served in our military.
But lying about your service, I think is the one
thing that military gets offended by if they're talking to

(03:45):
other military or talking to people who are exaggerating any
of that. So I think that's the one area where
his answer makes absolutely no sense. But he said something else,
and again, just to go back to it, a lot
of people are surprised that theolitical machine that is running
for the office of president and vice president didn't help
Walls come up with a better answer, And the reason

(04:07):
why they didn't is because there isn't one, and this
is a horrible answer. Nonetheless, what he should have said is, yes,
I exaggerated.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I regret that whatever you say, it doesn't make it better,
but at least own it. That's the problem I think
in politics for me is that whenever anybody gets caught
in these gotchas, these horrible gotchas, they refuse to ever
own it, ever admit it. And that part is, I
don't know, maybe something that they think is politically damaging
to do, but it would be jarring because it never happens,

(04:39):
and it might actually work out better.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
But here we go.

Speaker 10 (04:41):
I want to ask you a question about how you've
described your service in the National Guard. You said that
you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed
actually in a war zone. A campaign official said that
you misspoke, did you.

Speaker 11 (04:57):
Well?

Speaker 12 (04:57):
First of all, I'm incredibly proud I've done twenty four
years of wearing the uniform of this country. Equally proud
of my service in a public school classroom, whether it's
Congress or the governor. My record speaks for itself. But
I think people.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
None of that. By the way.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
You say I'm proud of being someone who served in
our military, That's fine, but that has nothing to do
with the question. And then all that other stuff you
said that has nothing to do with your military experience,
nothing to do with the question.

Speaker 12 (05:21):
Coming to get to know me, I speak like they do.
I speak candidly, I wear my emotions on my sleeves,
and I speak especially passionately about our children being shot
in schools and around guns. So I think people know me.
They know who I am, they know where my heart is.
And again, my record has been out there for over
forty years to be for itself and the idea.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So it's crazy here and this is where he's going
to say the viral thing. But a fifty second answer
to a question did you misspeak? He tried to avoid it.
He tried to not say yes or no. He tried
to just be like, well, I'm proud of this. I'm
proud of that. Yeah I did. Should have been what
he said, but he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
And then here right, he.

Speaker 10 (06:03):
Said that you were in war? Did you misspeak?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
As the campaign has said.

Speaker 12 (06:07):
Yeah, I said we were talking about in this case,
this was after school shooting, the ideas of carrying these
weapons of war, and my wife the English telling my
grammar's not always correct. But again, if it's not this,
it's an attack on my children for showing love for me,
or it's an attack on my dog.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 12 (06:22):
And the one thing I'll never do is I'll never
demean another member's service in any way.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
And my grammar's not good is what he said. He said,
his wife English teacher, my grammar's not good. This should
infuriate people. It should, and honestly, it's not just tim walls.
And it's not just the stolen valor claim, although that is,
or the stolen valor accusation, although that is a uniquely
damaging thing, and it should be and our country should
care about it more. But this is the crap that

(06:47):
all of these politicians do all the time. They're like,
I don't really even need to answer this question. I'm
not going to treat this seriously. I'm going to move
on or I'm going to make myself into the victim immediately,
even though I'm the one who lied about my military experience,
or lied about being in a war zone, lied about
actually being deployed into a combat situation. But I'm going

(07:08):
to say that, you know what, they make fun of
my dog, or they make fun of my family, and
that's the problem the other side of the aisles of
the issue, not me.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
This is disgusting. This should it shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
It shouldn't be something that goes in one here and
out the other like it can for so many people.
And people say, oh, yeah, Tim Wallas, he's a great guy.
He's your typical midwestern dad or whatever they say about him.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
No, he's a.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Person who lied about his own military experience, and that
is uniquely damaging and should be uniquely damaging. You can't
trust politicians, but I think you especially can't trust someone
who exaggerates about something as important as that. Right, one
more thing from this, there's another Kamala Harris moment that
went viral.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Here we go.

Speaker 10 (07:50):
You have been vice president for three and a half years.
The steps that you're talking about, now, why haven't you
done them already?

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy,
and we have done that. I'm very proud of the
work that we have done that has brought inflation down
to less than three percent.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
You could talk about your you know, attacking climate change
through the you know, Inflation Reduction Act, which, by the way,
I love the fact that even years ago Biden would
say that, you know what, we named that the wrong thing,
because all it really was was us trying to spend
more money on things that land in the world of
climate change. And we would have got more political points

(08:28):
with young people if we.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Had done that.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
But nonetheless, there is no answer to that question either,
why haven't you done this stuff already? You could have
You're currently in power. You could leave right now with
Biden still in the beach somewhere and in act any
of the stuff you want to act. You don't need
to be made president to try to do this stuff. Well,
I mean, you know, the other branches of government might
say no to you and the radical, crazy stuff you

(08:51):
want to do. But that's the thing, Like you could
if you were interviewing Kamala Harris, you could sit there
and be like, all right, that's a great idea. Why
don't you go do it now, miss Vice president, Madam
Vice President, why don't you go tell somebody in the
White House that you're in to go do some of
these ideas and see how they work out. Because that's possible,
And that's ridiculous that they talk about it like it's not.

(09:14):
But again, to go back to it too, I guess
the thing about Walls is, to me, it's not radical,
far right attacking of a guy who's actually a good guy.
It's one of the worst lies I think I've ever
experienced in politics that is getting forgiven so easily by
so many. And I'm not exaggerating to say that because

(09:35):
it should matter that he lied about that stuff. Just
to quickly go over it too, some of the other
things that the Trump administration or the Trump campaign is
saying Kamala has flip flopped on She supports the ending
of cashless bail for violent criminals. She's fundraising for the
Minnesota Freedom Fund, which freed rioters. She was the tie
breaking vote for the American Rescue Plan, which economists say

(09:57):
fueled inflation. Kamala's support of the funding the police is
something that even heard a little bit reference there. She
comments comparing policing to slavery. That's something she's done before.
Repeated praise of bidnomics, support from Medicare for All, support
for closing immigration detention centers and freeing thousands of people
who legally crossed into the country. Of course, also said

(10:18):
she thought that we should decriminalize coming across the border
at all illegally. But that's just one of many things.
But anyway, the interview, all the stuff, it all happened.
But we will move on talk about other things. This
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(10:42):
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we go one other thing that I do have out
there that I do think is pretty interesting as far
as just well, well, we don't have enough time to
talk about this fully, but we can tease it. Trump
and Harris are now in a neck and neck race,
according to University Norttional polls and other polls out there.

(11:02):
After a Robert F. Kennedy Junior stepped aside. Seven and
ten Americans think their best days are yet to come
as well, was another answer given in that poll, which
I thought was pretty interesting. And so I think the
biggest impact of this is will all of the RFK
Junior supporters actually go to Trump or not? And at
least some of the polling is saying maybe not, because

(11:23):
the five six seven percent that he was getting should
all be landing on the Trump side now if they
were to follow the you know, the nominee and follow
his his endorsement. And yet we might not be seeing
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Speaker 4 (13:40):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
A bunch of stuff to talk about out there for
the last twenty four hours, it seems like this story
has popped up on a lot of places. Gator wine
is apparently a Labor day cookout thing that a whole
bunch of people will be making. A Gator wine is
gatorade and really cheap red wine mixed together. Twelve dollars
or less is the rules for the Gator wine. The

(14:05):
recipe calls for equal parts light blue, gray, Glacier freeze, gatorade,
and red wine. And people are excited. I told this
to produce her Phil and he immediately remembered a really
great moment in Sanford and sons. That does sound very
similar to a Gator wine.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Here we go.

Speaker 18 (14:22):
You'd like something to drink?

Speaker 11 (14:23):
Would I'd like to fit the ripple.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
We'll both have champagne.

Speaker 19 (14:34):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Champagne that mixes.

Speaker 14 (14:36):
Again, that's my favorite.

Speaker 17 (14:37):
I call it shample.

Speaker 9 (14:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think sham pipple actually sounds better than gaiter wine.
If I'm being honest, that sounds pretty good. But this
is a real thing out there in the world. The
Gator wine, at least is so people are expecting to
have this and drink this and talk about this, And
I guess my favorite part about it, if I'm gonna
say there's anything, that's my favorite part about it. The
description for anyone that talks about this online is that

(15:01):
you think you're gonna hate it, but you sip it
and you realize it's not as terrible as you think
it is. I think I even have a YouTuber giving
a review of it that tells you that, you know what,
it's a shockingly better tasting product than those people assume
it's going to be.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Here we go for a real quick of this.

Speaker 20 (15:17):
It's not like anything I've ever tasted. If I'm being honest,
I'd rather drink this than Barefoot or yellow Zale. I
drink that on the rocks the more.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Okay, well, if you drink yellowtail on the rocks. We
have a problem in general, a lot of problems in general.
But yeah, he said it's better than cheap wine. Just
throwing gate right in there. All right, this is Craig
Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show. Other stuff
we have to talk about, other stuff going on in
the world. I think this is interesting. Whatever everyday skill

(15:51):
becomes suspicious if you are too good at it. Is
a story out there that I thought was pretty funny.
Some people say that if you try too hard, if
you're doing too much, that maybe some of these things
you've just put way too much time. One of the
first examples given, and I think this was a Reddit
list that created this, was a guy who's really really
good at a shooting range. Now, I don't think that's

(16:13):
true at all. I go shooting, I like using my
gun from occasion to occasion. I'm not very good at it,
and I wish I could put in a bunch more
time to be way better at it. But a guy
who's like expert level at all different kinds of firearms
and isn't competing or anything, someone says that should be suspicious.
I think that's more just our society not understanding gun

(16:34):
culture at all.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
I do think that's a thing. Other things out.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
There that say are too suspicious if you try too
hard at them. One man was so good at making
fake money for movies that he got a visit from
the FBI. They even told him he had to make
it more, he had to make.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It look more fake. That was weird.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Walking silently is something that apparently people are very suspicious
about if you do that way too often.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I don't get that one.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Being able to lie your way out of any situation,
that's another thing that people say. If you've noticed you
have a friend that's real good at that, you might
also be worried that they're well doing that to you.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Digging deep holes made this list.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
If you just see someone out there in the world
digging a hole and it looks too deep. Apparently that's
a situation we're going to start to worry about what's
going on. People are weird. The things we pay attention
to are weird, all right. This is Craig Collins filling
in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
More coming up in a bed, a Chad.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Benson Show, Independent, Independent Life. This is Chad Benson.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about. Chad is back after the holiday.
Let's see this first. President Trump last night said that
IVF treatments are something that the government will pay for
or insurance companies will pay for, if he's back in
the White House. This is a very interesting position for

(18:28):
Trump to take on this issue because a strong belief
in a lot of political circles is that the abortion
slash IVF issue and it's much more, honestly a discussion
about abortion than whether states have the right to make
decisions there than the IVF stuff. The IVF stuff is
an extension that isn't really a part.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
I think of these conversations.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
It's a hypothetical part of some of them more than
a reality.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
And that's what democrats love.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
They love talking about things that are not necessarily going
to happen and fear mongering about them and telling you
you have to vote for them to protect you from
stuff that might never be a thing. So Trump immediately
took the IVF discussion off the table. If you believe
him when he said this.

Speaker 13 (19:10):
I'm announcing today in a major statement that under the
Trump administration, your government will pay for, or your insurance
company will be mandated to pay for all.

Speaker 21 (19:23):
Costs associated with IVF treatment fertilization for women.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
IVF T.

Speaker 19 (19:33):
Because we want more babies, to put it very nicely,
and for the same reason, we will also allow new
parents to deduct major newborn expenses from their taxes.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Which is something that Kamala Harris is saying she's going
to do too, helping new parents. I thought this was
really interesting. I love that we want more babies. A
part that should be a campaign slogan for more.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Patient for women.

Speaker 19 (19:57):
If because we want more babies.

Speaker 20 (20:02):
To put it.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Very nicely, Look, I think a lot of people would
really love this, and actually I can even speak a
little bit from a personal experience, which is weird to say,
But my wife and I don't have any kids, and
that's not because we didn't want kids.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's just not something that happened for us.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
And there's a lot of reasons I guess that, you know,
we would point and think and talk about where people
of faith. I'm a Catholic, so I'd not could bore
people with that too much. But that comes into it
of thinking like why things do and don't happen sometimes
in life. I mean, nonetheless, if IVF treatments had been
essentially free or cost effective because of insurance covering it

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or some other thing, I'm sure it's a road we
would have explored more seriously than we did. And so
that's a big deal and it's a big win for
the whole women's health discussion that Republicans oftentimes feel like
they're on one side of, at least with the instream
media or Democrats, and Democrats claim that they're on the

(21:03):
exact opposite side, when the reality is that Republicans themselves,
or at least the President himself, didn't do anything to
ban abortion. He just gave the Supreme Court the ability
to turn it into something that becomes a state issue.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
I'll move on from that. This is interesting.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
I thought this was sort of a fascinating interview in general.
So jd Vance did an interview on CNN, and at
the very beginning, and I'm not even gonna play the audio,
but it seems like he was having an audio issue
with his headphones. That's Jade Vance, the inear that he
was wearing, so he couldn't hear stuff. So it seemed
like the gotcha questions were stumbling jd Vance. But the

(21:40):
truth was that things were really staticky and terrible and
they had to take a break. And John Berman even
admits that. He says, I think that you know, our
audio with you is too difficult for you to understand.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
So it's a real thing. It's not a fake thing.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
But then there was this moment, and I thought this
moment was really interesting. I think a lot of people
on the left are saying that this is an example
of jd Vance getting something wrong or stumbling, and you
know this, this.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Gotcha question did work.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
But I would love to try to think about this
a little bit more seriously than anyone who just looks
the tree top view of it and then moves on.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
But here's the audio. First for families.

Speaker 8 (22:17):
You were talking about Donald Trump social media. Would you
describe his posts over the last forty hour hours as
lifting people up? Quoting, reposting q on on statements, reposting
these misogynistic memes about Vice President Harrison Hillary Clinton. That's
the kind of open discussion that you think is lifting
people up.

Speaker 22 (22:36):
Oh, John, I think if you look at Donald Trump's
full campaign appearances and yes, as social media appearances, what
you see as two things a guy with an agenda
to lower prices and bring back American prosperity, and a
political candidate who isn'tstodgy, who likes to have some fun
and likes to tell some jokes. I'd much rather have
a candidate who's willing to go off script, who's willing

(22:56):
to give every interview, and it's willing to tell some jokes.
I do think that's how you lift people up. Politics
of boring skolds, telling people they can't laugh, that is
not lifting Americans up. That's how to tear us down.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
All Right, fun in jokes.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Oh the sarcasm from John burmant at the end there,
all right, fun and jokes all the horrible things that
Trump has said on social media or shared. Donald Trump's
social media posts are a lot like other human beings,
not like a president, but just like other people. Maybe
people that you wouldn't necessarily behave as yourself, but people

(23:30):
you might be quoted to share a post from every
once in a while are tempted excuse me to share
a post from every once in a while and then
not do it. I just find that interesting, and so
I actually I like Vance's answer that Donald Trump an
appeal that a lot of people who support him see
in him is that he doesn't behave like other politicians.
That he does say things that seem like, oh, that

(23:52):
might have not been the most appropriate answer to give,
but you chuckle as you do it, and honestly, if
you take it less serious, if you don't try to
force every joke from Trump to be a honest take
on something that he's talking about, Like let's use the
dictator one. That's a great example to me, and maybe
I should play that audio for you. That comment comes

(24:16):
from a sit down with Sean Hannity where Trump answered
the question are you going to be a dictator? By
saying only on day one, which was evidently a joke,
and then he went on to explain what he meant
by that, saying that he would close the border, he
would do a couple things, and Hannity interrupted him and said, well,
you don't have to be a dictator to do that stuff,
and Trump was like, yeah, yeah, I know, whatever, it's

(24:38):
a joke. I'm saying something that's not necessarily serious in nature.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
And I do like that.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
And actually I'll go one step further and then I'll
move on and we'll talk about some other stuff. To me,
the most valuable part of any leader you have is
their ability to make you laugh occasionally. Now, granted, I
don't want a leader to just be silly. I want
leaders that actually can act and actually can do things
in moments when I need them to do things. You know,
be serious when the time calls for it, But when

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you don't need to be serious every second of every day,
it's better that you're not having a laugh with someone
in a position of power over you, at your job
or anywhere else. Is something that I think is uniquely
sort of motivating and refreshing. And I agree that it's
something that can be uplifting, especially when it comes from
people like that.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Now.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Granted, as I say that, and I know some people
out there that think, oh man, Trump fanboy going crazy here,
I will just hear you know, every single thing that
Trump's ever joked about is one hundred percent the same
thing I would say or I endorse it. No, I
think a lot of people would admit to that that
there's things that have been said that you're like, oh,
I'm not sure I would have said that one. But

(25:47):
I think the real point is that a whole lot
of people don't care. Because even if it's just a
joke and you just move on from it and you
just keep paying attention to the actual work itself. That's
the part where people actually judge the serious or the
value of someone, not the things you joke about. All Right,
one other thing out there that I thought was interesting.
ABC News has rejected Kamala Harris's last minute bid to

(26:10):
change Trump's debate rules. Mike's will be muted in interactions
when one person is speaking, the other person won't be
able to speak. It's so odd that Harris wanted to
change that rule. It's so strange to me. And the
only reason she wanted to change it is because she
thought it would make Trump look worse if he interrupted her.
So I wonder what we would have seen. I'm just

(26:32):
going to ask that question. We're not going to see it.
But I wonder if Kamala would have spoken like slowly
and waited for Trump to interrupt and then acted like, oh,
this guy, look at how rude he is, look at
how sexist he is, how terrible to not let a
woman speak, or whatever the narrative would have been, there
would have been some performative trap that would have played out.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
And it's so annoying. And here's why. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
And I might get in trouble for this as a
thirty something white guy, but darned I don't care. I
just don't care anymore about some of that stuff. If
you went into a debate trying to trap the other
person into looking like a bad guy and then trying
to use a narrative like they're a sexist or something else,
then you're doing something that's so disingenuous, that's so separate

(27:17):
from let's just treat everybody the same, you know, like, yeah,
Trump interrupts everybody. Trump interrupted Biden a whole bunch back
in those debates when mikes weren't muted. That's why they
muted Mike's for the horrific debate that Biden gave just
a month or so ago.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
That's why that decision was made.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
But if they had had the debate without the mikes muted,
and if Trump interrupted or a lot, then it would
have been treating someone exactly the same as you treat
everybody else. And I promise you a narrative would have
been that he's a horrible sexist. And it's just it's
so interesting because that kind of stuff shouldn't help people
win elections.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
It shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
You should actually be held to the things you want
to do in office. I know I'm crazy to say that, apparently,
but it is what it is, all right. One last
thing that I'll just throw out there too that I
thought was interesting. There's an article on CNN's website talking
about the Arlington incident, I think is what they're still
calling it now, the thing that happened earlier this week

(28:15):
at the Arlington National Cemetery where Trump's people pushed someone
who was working in the cemetery because of a disagreement
about photographing or videotaping Trump at a specific point inside
that very important cemetery in our country. I thought this
was a really good question that people are asking in
response to this article from just the other day. Why

(28:38):
aren't some of these individuals in mainstream media or some
of the places that are trying to make this such
a big story matter at the fact that thirteen brave
servicemen were killed while defending our country while trying to
exit Afghanistan because of the horrific exit itself. Why isn't
that something that people are more focused on and people
are angry or about.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Why are they so much more likely?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
At least according to mainstream media, at least, this seems
to be the belief of media to respond to a
story about Trump's people pushing someone than the fact that
Biden's administration allowed for thirteen of our military to be killed.
That seems to be the more powerful discussion, even three
years after it happened to me and to a lot
of people online who are reacting to the CNN stories

(29:24):
still out there yesterday and today, even trying to keep
this story in the news to make it look bad
for Trump as opposed to the other thing. All right,
we'll take a break. A lot coming up on the
show today. This is Craig Collins filling in on the
Chad Benson Show. Here he is with a message about
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Speaker 6 (31:03):
To do what you know how to do, because when
you do what you do what you know how to do.

Speaker 20 (31:09):
What you've just said is one of the most insanely
idiotic things I've ever heard.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
And then they passed us a baton, and the question
is what will we do with the time we carry
the baton?

Speaker 5 (31:20):
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And baal?

Speaker 16 (31:23):
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Get you ass on their cool buff and go home.

Speaker 15 (31:32):
I call myself a joyful warrior the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Greg Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you. Every once in
a while, I find a study out there in the
world that I wish I could have been a part of.
I'm not a professional in that space. Mit did this study?
They wouldn't let me in to any of the stuff
they're doing. I don't think I have the credentials. But nonetheless,
they studied what dogs dream about is real, try to

(32:00):
figure out what the dreams are that dogs have.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I know the answer to this without studying it.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
All just awesome stuff, stuff like running in a field
because I've seen my puppy move her feet while she's
asleep as if she's running in a field, So I
figured it out. I didn't need to study it like mit.
But apparently, for the most part, researchers believe that they're
dreaming real life events that they've had as animals, as pets,

(32:25):
and that's a majority of what they're dreaming about, usually
positive things, not negative things.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Is they're dogs.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Honestly, if we could all have the positivity of a dog,
that would.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Probably make us much happier, better people.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
But I love the fact that they studied this at
all because somebody somewhere was talking to I guess a
colleague probably and being like, well, we got this grant,
we got to study something. What would be fun, what
would make us want to show up to work for
the next couple months. Oh yeah, let's study what dogs
are dreaming about. That'll be a good one. And then
I wonder if you even make some of that stuff up.

(32:57):
You're like, we don't really know how to study this.
The MIT people don't. I'm just I'm curious. So you
just sort of add to things that you're guessing about.
You're like, yeah, I know they're dreaming about a bone,
and that's it, and please give us more money.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
This'll be great, all right.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Some other things out there that I saw. If you
change to a four day work week, which extra day
would you want off? Is a real question that people
are being asked online. I don't know why this would
be a real question. You should just want Friday. I
think that's the right answer, is that you definitely don't
want to work that day. It's already a fun day
because everybody sees it as the last workday. Just having

(33:34):
it off would be better. But twenty seven percent of
people said they want Monday off, which is wrong, even
though we all hate Monday. And maybe that might make
it better too. I'm not sure, but I don't know.
I just like the idea of one more day going
into not out of the end of the weekend.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
I'm sure it wouldn't matter. I love this.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
The least popular answer was Tuesday. It should be a
weird option to go to work for one day and
then have a day off. But I actually think if
you did that, you wouldn't hate it. I do think
that would be better in experience than it would be
as an idea, as not on paper. But nonetheless, these
are the kinds of important questions we're asking people. Mit
is studying dogs, sleeping and their dreams, and then other

(34:15):
people are answering questions about what day of the week
you want off. If you have a four day work week,
it's International Bacon Day. I hate these holidays most often,
but anything that's about bacon specifically is something that will
make me happy, and I'm fine with that International Bacon Day.
Nearly sixty percent of people say they'd eat bacon every
day if they could. That's a that's an obscure question,

(34:39):
but one that I'm not surprised people gave the answer to.
Seventy one percent say everything tastes better with bacon, maybe
except like yogurt. I guess was listed here. Fifty seven
percent of people could eat bacon every day. As I
said a second ago, sixty nine percent say they consider
bacon a side dish that.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Could pair with anything.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Forty three percent of men say the quickest way to
their heart is with bacon.

Speaker 9 (35:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I think that's because it's also almost impossible to ruin bacon.
Even if you burn it, it's still pretty delicious. I
think a lot of us love bacon so much because
it's a wonderful food product that's also very easy to cook.
If you're a great cook, though, I think you can
live beyond the world of the bacon.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's the test.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
If you can make me something that's equally delicious to
bacon that's much harder to make than it, then it
means you're a very good cook. That's at least my
very novice opinion on this. All right, that's one of
the sillier things out there. I'll talk about serious stuff,
I promise silly stuff still too. This is Craig Collins
filling in on the Chad Benson Show, and a couple

(35:42):
other things out there that I just think are pretty
interesting that we'll get to a little later on. Kamala Harris,
in her interview on CNN last night, did blame Trump
for something? Because you have to check that box as
a Democrat Trump's got to be to blame for something, somehow,
some way. And I really love Chad Benson's tweet about
this last night, which you can find at Chad Benson

(36:02):
Show on X on Twitter, because he's absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
So I'll steal his idea. I'll talk about it a
little bit more, and.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I'll play the audio for you right here on the
Chad Benson Show, because even blaming Trump, you're still missing
a big part of this.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Craig Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
This is the Chad Benson Show, Independent Thoughts, Independent Life,

(36:51):
This is Chad Benson.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk talk about. A uniquely sad story today,
sort of a surprising story, I guess from this morning,
and I have some audio of Mike Greenberg on Get
Up talking about this. But a NHL star and his

(37:16):
brother were tragically killed. They were on bicycles and a
drunk driver hit them. Here's a little bit of how
Greeney talked about it this morning on television.

Speaker 24 (37:26):
But if it seems as though we have had a
little bit of a strange vibe here to open our
show this morning. It's because we, like everyone across the
sports world and well beyond, have felt as though our
breath has been taken away this morning by tragic news
that came into our newsroom, as was confirmed just within
the last half hour, and that is that Columbus Blue
Jacket star forward Johnny Gaudau and his brother Matthew, who

(37:49):
is a minor league hockey player, were both killed last night.
They were struck by a car while they were cycling
an oldman's township, New Jersey. The driver was arrested, charged
with two counts of driving under the influence and death
by auto. Johnny Gudrou was thirty one years old. His
brother Matthew, was twenty nine. Johnny Gudau was known as
Johnny Hockey. He was a legend in South Jersey, where

(38:11):
he grew up and starred at Boston College, where he
was a national champion as a freshman in twenty twelve.
As a junior, he won the twenty fourteen Hobie Baker
Award as the NCAA's top player. Gudrou then went to
the National Hockey League and was an instant star playing
for the Calgary Flames. In his eight seasons with the Flames,
he was an All Star six times. His best year

(38:34):
was his final year in Calgary, where he finished with
one hundred and fifteen points. He then signed a seven year,
sixty eight million dollar contract to go to Columbus, where
he was just about to start his third season with
that team.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
You know, I will say this, and it's odd to
say this in response to such a tragic and sad story.
And of course, everyone in your life, you know, everybody
out there in the world, you've probably at some point
been shocked by a tragedy of some kind like this
that's closer to you personally. It's not you know, someone famous.

(39:05):
It's a family member or a friend of a family
member or someone. And it's always shocking when someone that
age winds up in such a tragic and horrible accident,
or in this case, due to the bad decisions of
a drunk driver. But I'll say that when it happens
in the sports world, I wonder if the reason that

(39:28):
it impacts us harder, it hits us harder is the
amount of promise that you very quickly can equate that
is lost when people are tragically taken.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
And it's true.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Again, I'm not trying to take it away from your
own individual life and the people that you know and
love and care about, but there's something about it. Whether
it's a famous athlete or even like a famous singer,
famous actor, somebody, someone that you're seeing do amazing things
on a world stage or at least a national stage,
and so horrible, tragic, awful story. And I imagine people

(40:01):
who don't even really pay attention to hockey at all
will at some point hear about this and react to
this and think about this at least a little bit,
because again, it's just such a shocking thing. And I'm
sure you even have a memory of another similar situation
where someone famous, an athlete or celebrity of some kind
was taken too young, however it was that that occurred.

(40:23):
But yes, absolutely a tragic story that broke early today.
All right, moving on to some of the politics out there,
This is interesting to me. This is a moment that
went viral for a lot of people from the interview
last night with Kamala Harris in which she blamed Donald
Trump for all of the horrible pricing issues, all the
inflation things that we've dealt with over the last three years.

(40:44):
I thought this was really important to play, not just
because Chad Benson himself tweeted it out at Chad Benson
Show if you want to check him out on X
on Twitter, but also because of the way in which
a question was asked by many people, absolutely by Chad saying,
all right, even if you accept this as an answer,
then why do you point to or how do you

(41:07):
explain the three years prior to the moment when a
bill was on the floor to try to address some
of this inflation stuff that you caused yourself.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Here we go.

Speaker 10 (41:15):
During that Biden Harris administration, there were record numbers of
illegal border crossings. Why did the Biden Harris administration wait
three and a half years to implement sweeping asylum restrictions?

Speaker 6 (41:27):
A bill was crafted which we supported, which I support,
and Donald Trump got word of this bill that would
have contributed to securing our border, and because he believes
that it would not have helped him politically, he told
his folks in Congress, don't put it forward.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
He killed the bill.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
Energy is a big one. When you were in Congress,
you supported the Green New Deal, and in twenty nineteen
you said quote, there is no question I'm in favor
of banning fracking. Cracking, as you know, is a pretty
big issue, particularly in your must win state of Pennsylvania.
Do you still want to ban fracking.

Speaker 13 (42:09):
No.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
As president, I will not ban fracking.

Speaker 10 (42:11):
You said that you carried weapons in war.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
But that's moving on to tim Walls.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
So a couple things there, and I left both in first,
of course, talking about the border issues and the three years,
and that's what Chad is referring to, the three years
where things were going nuts, where things were going crazy
and you didn't do anything about it, and then a
bill comes across and you say that Trump got it
killed because he wanted the political win of the border
being a mess, even though it already been a mess

(42:36):
for three years. The same is true about a lot
of things in the world of inflation, the world of
fighting pricing, and what Harris says she'll do now to
fight some of those pricing things like force companies to
not be capable what she calls price gouging. But a
lot of us might assume is not necessarily that, because well,
stuff has gotten more expensive because of the energy issues

(42:57):
that also are mentioned there. But I just find this
very because if you blame Trump during an election year
for using his political power to influence any of the
decision making by members of the House or members of
the Senate, you are completely throwing out.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
As chad mentions. And as many people mentioned.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
The idea that that's new, the attempt to fix this
stuff is new, because for a while they denied it
and both of those issues, actually the border, they denied
that it was as bad as we all knew it was.
And then actually on inflation, and you remember this Janet
Yellen and others trotted out there saying it was transitory
for quite some time, like it'll go away, don't worry

(43:36):
about it, don't pay attention to it. Everything will be fine,
it'll all get better soon. And then it doesn't get better.
And then come an election year they finally admit and
say we got to do something, and then somehow they
try to blame Trump for the stuff that they didn't
do before that. But there's so many of those moments,
and it's so amusing to me because a lot of people,

(43:57):
you know what, I talked to all different kinds of
people about a lot of the political issues, and I
talk to a lot of minority of voters, people that
either listen to me in some other radio places I
am friends of mine.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I feel weird as a white dude.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
It's now like I'm saying I have black friends, but
I do, so darn it, it's out there.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
I don't know why it's a weird thing to say.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
In the world we live in now, it feels like
you get attacked for even saying something if it's a fact.
But nonetheless, I hear a lot of people say that
they don't really care about my community. They being the politicians,
they don't really care about this or that except during
an election year. That's the only time where they talk
about this issue or that issue. That's the only time
where they try to address this stuff. And the same
seems very much, very easily to be true about even

(44:40):
things as simple as inflation or as simple as the
horrificness of the open border that we have. You just
try to address it in November, October, I guess in
this case, even August or at some point the year
of an election, and they're like, yeah, we've been trying
the whole time. Everything will be fine. You move on.
Stop thinking about us, and you know, stop thinking about

(45:03):
all the things that we've broken, and I guess it
just assumes that we're stupid. Like, you know, I say
that a lot. Actually I don't know how to say
that differently, but I genuinely mean it. Probably the most offensive,
And I'm a millennial, so I guess I might over
use the word offensive. But the most offensive thing to
me about politics and how that system works is just

(45:24):
how dumb they demonstrate they think we are. And that
honestly because the things they say, the questions they avoid,
the constantness of this sort of crap. I didn't do
anything for three years. Now I'm going to try to
do something with a couple weeks or a couple months
before an election and assume that that's all you'll pay
attention to. That should make us mad, That should make

(45:46):
us feel as though we could stand up and say, hey,
we're not this stupid. We're paying attention for longer. It
sort of would be like, here's an example I'll give
if a magician actually wanted to convince you that they
really could do magic, you know, like that's the difference.
Like you show up at a magic show and the
guy's not going to tell you how he does the trick,
but you both know he's not actually floating, that there's

(46:08):
some sort of gimmick behind it.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
You know it, and you don't care.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
But it'd be like a magician did an interview after
a show and I was like, no, no, I'm really magic,
I really have it. I have superpowers. I can levitate,
I can change things, I can make birds appear. I
don't know why anybody thinks any differently. That's what it
would be like, and a bunch of adults in the
room being like, Oh, Okay, he's just actually magic.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
He's just actually doing this stuff. That's what I feel like.
So much of this is all right. One other thing
I saw this. I thought it was interesting.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
President Trump did give a surprising answer to a question
about Florida and their abortion ban after six weeks. Here's
that piece audio, Steve row And.

Speaker 23 (46:49):
You want abortion to be a states rights issue in Florida,
the state that you are a resident of. There's abortion
related amendment on the ballot to overturn the sixth week
in Florida. How are you going to vote on that?

Speaker 21 (47:01):
Well, I think the sixth week is too short. This
has to be more time. And so that's and I've
told them that I want more.

Speaker 23 (47:08):
Weeks so you'll vote in favor of the amendment.

Speaker 21 (47:10):
I'm voting that I am going to be voting that
we need more than six weeks.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Just so you understand.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
I think this is interesting, And the biggest reason I
think this stuff is interesting is because there are some
core issues that say conservatives in the past, politicians have
either avoided talking about, talking about or avoided giving specificity about.
He could have very easily said, you know what, that's
a state issue. Let's leave it to the state. Let's
see how Florida votes, but he said that he thinks

(47:36):
it's too short because I think what Trump believes is
that there's no way he'll lose the support of his base,
of the core voters that love him and want to
see him back in a position of power. The only
people who are likely to change their opinion about him
are the people that are described as independents. I don't
know how many of them actually exist, but a lot
of people describe themselves as that, and these comments he's

(48:00):
whether it's about IVF or this or some other issues,
seem to be designed to attract independence and show that
he's not as far onto a side of these issues,
as Democrats are going to say he is.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Will it work.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I don't know, but I do believe that there's no
way that Trump loses the support of his core base
of support of his core base of like fanatics or
whatever you want to call them, that that won't go
away no matter what. So it'll be interesting to see.
All right, this is Craig Collins filling in on the
Chad Benson Show.

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Speaker 3 (50:18):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Chad is back after the holidays. BA humbug,
I guess is my response to this. And HOA in
South Carolina issued a cease and desist to families who
were letting their kids play in a grassy field in
the middle of a neighborhood. I have some audio of
both people homeowners that agree with the season desist and

(50:41):
those who don't.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
It's kids and it's a field. This is the kind
of thing they're supposed to do. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
As kids, you love to find the area that nobody
owns in the middle of whatever neighborhood you live in,
and you know, have home run derbies, there have something,
and everybody else is just supposed to tolerate that because it's.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Chill and here we go. Let's hear some audio on this.

Speaker 25 (51:02):
The best way to parent my kids is allowing them
to be outside, be healthy, be active. This is absolutely
not in organized sports. The only thing organized about it
is these five, six, seven, eight year old saying, hey,
do you want to go play football?

Speaker 17 (51:16):
They have coach, they have whistoles, they have tens, they
have water and daved taken over the circle.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Well, before you know what, the Carolina Panthers will be
playing you.

Speaker 17 (51:25):
It's so great to see the kids out by, but
these people, they push you from ten to now thirty people.

Speaker 26 (51:31):
This might be it they sucked at sports when they
are kids.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Okay, a couple things. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
That last part is the TikToker or social media influencer
who made it all go viral that's reacting to this
saying that the older people are just bad at sports.
But here's the thing I love is that if these
eight nine ten year olds have like coaches and water
bottles and everything, now that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I'll tell you a quick story.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
When I was in high school, and actually I think
this started in eighth grade, we would play football in
a very simil or fashion.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
We played tackle football as kids. We all got together.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
We even nicknamed the field concussion field, which in retrospect
doesn't feel so good because one of our friends got
a couple concussions there.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
But we played, we had fun. Nobody complained about us.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
That's what you do as a child, or what you
do as even a teenager, I guess. And you don't
let people tell you no because it's a field. It's
a public field, people, all right. This is Craig Collins
filling in on the Chad Benson Show. BA Humbug to
South Carolina. It is crazy, though, if I'm thinking about
that a little bit more too, that the grassy field

(52:36):
in the middle of the neighborhood can cause this many issues,
this much anger. And I love the one thing that
one of these guys said, and I could play that
part again that at some point the Carolina Panthers will
be playing here. Because if that's true, man, that's awesome.
Obviously it's not. It's not going to happen. But who
would actually complain about that? If I had a professional
sports team of any kind roll up into my neighborhood

(52:57):
and play on any sort of public property within my neighborhood,
I'd be thrilled by that. I would actually specifically like
the Yankees to play baseball in my backyard.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
I don't think it's happening.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
But I love I love this version of who knows
what crazy reality is going to happen. Now that we're
letting the kids play football on the field.

Speaker 17 (53:13):
And they have water and Dave taking over the circle,
well before.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
You know it, the Carolina Panthers will be playing here.
I love that.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
There's so many examples of that, like politics and everywhere else,
we're like, if this slippery slope gets any deeper, it's
going to be crazy for all of us. And that's
the best one. I hope that guy actually is walking
around mad. He's like, it's just it's just a few steps.
Notre Dame's going to play a game here at some point,
and then the Carolina Panthers are going to be here.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
We all know it. We all got to stop it
the best way we can.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
I love that, But again, one more time, I guess
to say my main take on this, it's a grassy
field in the middle of a neighborhood and it's kids.
Let them play. Let them play. That's my approach to
all this. All right, quick break a lot more. Craig
Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Shows.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
A Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Independent Thoughts, Independent Life. This is Chad Benson.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
This is the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
My name is Craig Collins, filling in.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
You know, it's interesting you look out there in the
world of all the political discussions we're having right now,
and a lot of it feels very repetitive. Very repetitive,
is my answer, or what I would say about that
case in point might be this. MSNBC's Morning Joe did
an interview with Eugene Robinson where they talked about why

(55:08):
Americans should vote for Kamala Harris, and he says out
loud all the reasons you should not vote for Kamala Harris.
This is a take that I think Gail King also
had somewhat recently, and I thought was interesting.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
I certainly agreed with it.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
But you're saying all these parts out loud for a reason,
and I think a lot of people understand what that
reason is.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Here we go lots of talk.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
And frankly frustration among journalists about when Vice President Harris
finally would sit for an interview. We got it last night,
pretty detailed, and it's questioning from Danna Bash of CNN
about some of those policies on which the Vice president
held different positions when she ran in twenty nineteen. What
were your impressions, broadly of what we saw last night.

Speaker 11 (55:46):
Well, you know, the first sort of broad unanimous reaction
that I was hearing just from really both sides of
the aisle was that she did no harm. That and
that's hold on.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Let me actually responded to that first part. Doing no
harm should not be the goal of your first interview.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
You shouldn't be like I hope I don't damage this
campaign too hard, and.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Then also doing a heavily edited and recorded and not
live interview on television. Not the same as being put
in a situation where you actually do something that is
live and not edited and not with the CNN. But
I love the fact that he's like, well, the first
thing I heard is that she didn't torpedo her campaign
within a few minutes of being alone, well not even

(56:28):
alone with Tim Wallason next to her, for an interview
with someone that was friendly.

Speaker 11 (56:33):
The sort of prime imperative when you're doing that sort
of interview. I thought it was better than that. Actually,
I thought she did herself good in that interview, affirmatively
by answering Dana persistent questions about changes in her policy positions,

(56:54):
particularly the discussion about fracking. I thought she did herself
good when she talked about her core issues like reproductive rights.
I thought it was fascinating the way she sort of
sloughed off the racist attacks from Donald Trump by just

(57:16):
saying it the same old, tired playbook. Next question, which
was a signal that that's not what she wants to
run on. That's not her issue. She's not asking the
American people to vote for her because she would be
the first woman of color, the first woman to be president,

(57:39):
that in fact, she is asking the American people to
vote for her on the merits on her experience, on
her positions.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I got a starboid there, So no, I'm not to
say that different. You celebrate somebody during the entire DNC
and which you demand very few actual positions from them.
If you watched any of the Democratic National Convention, you
realize that no real policy was being discussed or put
out there into the world. And if you dive deeper

(58:10):
into Kamala Harris, something that she has been for a
majority of her political career is very politically far to
a side of the aisle, very policy friendly to the
most extreme of the Democratic Party. And some of the
things she said, some of the things that she's done
and somewhat was challenged by Dana bash on.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
The other night.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Even my favorite example is the fracking one. Actually that
gets brought up there because on a debate stage in
twenty twenty, as the vice presidential nominee, not as a
presidential nominee, a Kamala Harris even then avoided the question
of whether or not she personally would want to go
after fracking and ban it and stop it in any way,
shape or form, by repeatedly saying that Biden is not,

(58:53):
as president, going to do anything to ban fracking, essentially
trying to jump past the issue. And these are things
that should matter. So if you are actually voting for
someone based on their policy, based on their merit, their experience,
and you decide between someone who's been the president before
and the world didn't you know, create and explode like
they told us it would a last time, or like

(59:14):
they're telling us it will again, and someone who didn't
even win her nomination.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
She didn't.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
She was appointed, she was assigned, and you can call
it whatever you want to call it, but she didn't
actually run a campaign against anybody. Now she's running one
against Trump. But it feels like that part should have happened,
and it didn't. And it's because, well, back in twenty
twenty when she tried it, she gave up real, real
early because.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
It did not go well.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
So I just find all those things very interesting for
him to say and actually speak into the ether, into
the world and then pretend as though they're true. And
Gail King also said that recently, I think on CBS
that you're not trying to get a vote because she's
a woman, or because she's you know, black or Indian
or whatever is talked about as far as her ethnicity goes, Well,

(59:58):
then why talk about it so much?

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
That would be my other reaction to that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
If you're not trying to have that be a component
of why people vote for someone, then why discuss it
at all? If you truly didn't want to win an
election based on those things. And I don't think Democrats
care at all. They just want to win the election.
However they get it done. That's fine. They say the
part out loud that they think matters, but it doesn't
actually help anyone because it's not the truth, and you

(01:00:22):
know it's not the truth, and I know it's not
the truth. They would like to make history or his
history whatever they say on social media. That annoys me
by having this be a vote. And I'll say this again.
I said it yesterday, but I'll say it one more
time and then I will move on what I think
is really interesting about any of that. And I remember
seeing an AP story maybe a week ago about how

(01:00:43):
a lot of Americans believe that we should have a
female president is on its surface as a simple sentence.
I don't disagree with that at all. I think that's true. Yeah, sure,
it's been a long time and we haven't had one.
We should have one. That makes sense to me, it
makes sense to a lot of people. But you don't
just put somebody in there because of that. Democrats themselves
are even saying that you put someone in there because

(01:01:03):
you want them to be the best person for the job,
and they just so happen to be a woman, or
they just so happen to be you know, black or
some other ethnicity that's not a white dude.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
That's the whole point of this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
And I love the fact that you're saying both things
at the same time by saying, we don't want people
to vote for that reason. But remember, these are the
things that she is in case you forgot it all
these are things that are important. All right, let's move on.
Democrats are having a really tough time spinning Kamala Harris's
positions on things. I thought this was interesting. This is
an interview on CNN as well talking about some of that,

(01:01:38):
because again, that's the stuff that matters more than the
other stuff that they talk about so often.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Here we go I do want to.

Speaker 26 (01:01:44):
Talk about this fracking thing because Vice President Harris last night,
though pressed by Dana, didn't explain the evolution how she
went from saying she would banfracking in twenty nineteen to
now saying she would not and supports allowing it to continue.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
You are you satisfied with the explanation she gave.

Speaker 26 (01:02:03):
She said that in twenty twenty on the debate stage,
she said she supported fracking, but she didn't really. All
she said was that President Biden supported it.

Speaker 27 (01:02:13):
Well, John, part of what you're pointing out here is
that Vice President Harris, as vice president to President Biden,
has supported fracking for the last four years and was
the deciding vote in a landmark bill that was the
single biggest investment in fighting climate change any nation has
ever made. So I'm comfortable that I understand that Vice

(01:02:37):
President Harris has a position that we've made huge progress
in combating climate change.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
And no, I got to hate all this. I hate
it so much.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Honestly, I even regret playing the audio for you because
it's just like, I'm not going to answer your question.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
I don't want to answer it. I don't want to
talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I don't think I have to answer it, so I'm
just going to move on and talk about other stuff instead,
and you just should accept it, all right. Another thing
out there that I thought was interesting as far as
just back and forth goes, This is also CNN.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
It's also John Berman.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Sometimes I like to choose audio that's on a certain
side of the aisle when I don't agree with it,
because I, for some reason think this is more powerful
to those who disagree with me than playing the Fox
News audio the world. But this is jd Vance dealing
with a interview with John Berman. And what I think
is so interesting about this is he's actually getting crapped

(01:03:26):
on by people for what he said here. But if
you're being like honest, if you're not being someone who's
just trying to crap on somebody for the sake of
crapping on them, but someone who's actually trying to hear
an answer and think about the answer, you know, valuably,
then I don't think this is bad at all. I
actually kind of think it's a pretty good answer to

(01:03:48):
this question, because when you talk about Trump, I guess
I'll give you my opinion first before I throw it
out there. When you talk about Trump and the CNNs
of the world or anybody else the world wants to
attack and say that, you know, what we're actually seeing
here is a horrible, terrible person who doesn't deserve this
role in office or whatever the conversation is that often

(01:04:11):
happens there. You honestly want to think to yourself, like,
what would a real person say, what would a regular,
everyday American feel in response to either this line of
questioning or anything about this topic.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
And to be honest, I think it's this here we.

Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
Go, Families, you were talking about Donald Trump social media.
Would you describe his posts over the last forty hour
hours as lifting people up? Quoting, reposting q on No statements,
reposting these misogynistic memes about Vice President Harrison Hillary Clinton.
That's the kind of open discussion that you think is
lifting people up.

Speaker 22 (01:04:48):
Oh, John, I think if you look at Donald Trump's
full campaign appearances and yes, as social media appearances, what
you see as two things. A guy with an agenda
to lower prices and bring back American prosperity. In a
political candidate who isn't stodgie, who likes to have some
fun and likes to tell some jokes, I'd much rather
have a candidate who's willing to go off script, who's
willing to give every interview, and it's willing to tell

(01:05:10):
some jokes. I do think that's how you lift people up.
Politics of boring skolds, telling people they can't laugh. That
is not lifting Americans up. That's how to tear us down.

Speaker 8 (01:05:19):
All right, fun in jokes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
I do love the sarcasm of fun in jokes. That's
what you say he's doing. And honestly, it is a
giant appeal of Trump is that he doesn't behave like
everyone else. And the reason why, and I guess the
reason why I probably played that audio that other fracking
answer from Chris Koons is that, in all honesty, that
is a much worse way to behave in a very
typical way for politicians to behave to be stodgy, to

(01:05:44):
be stiff, and to not answer any questions and to
act like they're answering all of them. And the excuse
given is while I'm just being presidential or I'm just
being you know, this version of a person that people
want me to be in not getting down and dirty
and into the thick of things like everybody else, and
just not sounding like an everyday American.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
And I think that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
I really do, and I think that that's why a
lot of people understand and wind up voting a certain way. Actually,
I'll tell you real quick and then we'll take a break.
But I had a conversation with someone just yesterday who's
definitely not on the same side.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Of the political aisle that I'm on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
And one of the things they said, and I sort
of interjected when they said it is, you know, both
Trump and Harris don't do a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Of interviews, And I was like, wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
You can say whatever you want about how someone handles
the media, but Trump is more than willing pretty much
all the time to sit down and talk to anybody,
or call into shows and talk to them, or just
have a constant conversation with the American people through his
social media platforms or whatever else.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
If you're going to talk.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
About just the aspect of accessibility, Trump is easily more
accessible than I think anyone who's ever been in the
role of president. Whether that's good or bad. Sure, you
can debate that if you want. You can talk about
the quality of the conversation. All that's fine. I don't
even care. But at least from an accessibility standpoint, you
cannot say that anyone that he's run against, literally anyone

(01:07:12):
that he's run against, even comes close to his level
of being out there and discussing whatever topic in whatever
way he feels is appropriate. And again, I think that's
actually a good thing. Even if you're lying to us
all the time, at least you're not avoiding the questions entirely.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
That to me is better.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And then we as the American people, should be smart
enough to figure out what the truth and what the
lies are with any of these politicians. That's the part
that's up to us, not keeping the information from us
to quote protect us or whatever the crap excuses that
is given so often.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
All Right, I'll take a break.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
A lot coming up on the show, some of it
hopefully less serious than this, because darn it. I want
to do fun and jokes the same way that Trump
does and apparently John Berman hates. But this is Craig
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Speaker 15 (01:09:19):
Up talk radio medium, rare and dripping with irony. It's
Chad Benson.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you. There is a
documentary coming out about Casa Bonita, the South Park creator's
own Mexican restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
I have a trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I'm gonna play the trailer first and then I'm going
to talk about this a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Here we go. Hello, Welcome to Casa Bonita.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Anyone's parents to book people, Pocasta, the Mexican restaurant Disneyland.

Speaker 15 (01:09:51):
When you grew up in Colorado, you just remember how
awesome it was.

Speaker 20 (01:09:54):
When I was a kid, there was a dream that
one day I could own Castapanita.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
I am going you kidnap.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
There are cliff divers, caves to explore. It made it
feel like a dream.

Speaker 14 (01:10:06):
Creators from South Park purchased the iconic Pasabanita.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Ah, you guys, get clean around. No, We're been a
eating and opening an amazing red.

Speaker 20 (01:10:16):
Run we've inherited this building that is four million for
eight track new kitchen that's probably in the two range.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
Have you ever seen kitchen nightmares?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
It is like a possibility that it just never opens.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Yeah, I better go start making some new TV shows.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
I gotta be honest. I love every part of this.
This sounds great.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
The South Park guys opening a restaurant that is uniquely
crappy and damaged and everything else that they loved as kids.
Cosa Bonita is a show that I'd watch and a
show that I'd watch quite a bit, And they'll make
money off of the documentary even if they never opened
the restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
So that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
But that that went viral because it looks very interesting.
Another story out there, I'll play. Let's play some good
news audio. That's fine. Sometimes we need an uplifting moment.
And made stand in Virginia that was run by a
child who was robbed by a random adult. The thief
got away with like forty bucks in cash. I wound
up having a really good day when a bunch of
bikers rolled up in the community and said, we saw

(01:11:13):
the story. We were upset by the story, and so
we really want lemonade, sixty two hundred dollars worth of lemonade.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Here's mom and some others talking about this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I thought we were about to get another customer because
he was acting all nice.

Speaker 15 (01:11:27):
I was in the middle for the lemonade.

Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
When I was about halfway through, he stole the money
while I wasn't looking.

Speaker 15 (01:11:34):
It's kind of like taking their innocence.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
I had to work through that and teach them about
forgiving the guy too.

Speaker 14 (01:11:39):
We had seventy eight motorcyclists and thirty bicyclists. I'll come
along with a lot of other folks. We heard there's
a whole other group of motorcycles coming from Newport News
on their way. We're excited to see them, along with
police and fire and the most of the city councilor
thing's been out.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
That's awesome. Every part of this story is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
I love the fact that the little kid, her name
is Rebecca by the way, has to deal with learning
that people steal stuff and then bikers are nice. Is
the second part of that lesson, and a really really
good lesson. Dollars in lemonade and I don't know how
you drink that and drive a motorcycle at the same time.
I imagine you just sip it real quick and then
you're done.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Quick break. A lot coming up. Greig Collins filling in,
And this is the Chad Benson Show. My name is
Craig Collins.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
As I said, filling in, Casa Bonita and Lemonade are
two great stories out there. They're not the only stories
out there, though, of course. There are serious topics to discuss,
including and I love this all the shots at Harris
for having her vice president candidate with her, and all
the defenses of how dare you people do this all
the time. It was the first interview. I think that's

(01:12:44):
why people are complaining. I got more about that coming
up in a bit. Greig Collins filling in on the
Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Is the Chad Benson Show, Independent Thoughts, Independent Life. This

(01:13:29):
is Chad Benson.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about today. Chad is back after the holidays.
So one of the bigger conversations going on in the
world is about Colorado and actually about a I think
apartment complex that illegal immigrants took over, brought all kinds
of chaos and craziness. There's videos of guys with guns

(01:13:53):
walking around in hallways, just all kinds of nuts things.
What I think is really interesting is there's a story
out there now about how Kamala Harris has decided to
put up different signs, or at least her campaign has
blaming Trump for this, saying that it's Trump's fault that
illegal immigration is not something that's been handled because Trump
killed a bipartisan that's at least the claim of it,

(01:14:16):
even though it was not exactly bipartisan in reality. Sometimes
if people who don't actually behave like Republicans, say that
they support certain things, it doesn't mean that the rest
of the political party does. But nonetheless, that's the claim,
is that because Trump killed a bill, and I can
play some of that audio for you first, that it's

(01:14:36):
his fault that immigration has gotten so bad, not the
fact that it's been several years of an open border
policy that the administration denied was even really that bad
or that big of a deal. They did the same
thing about inflation, telling us it was transitory. But here's
a little bit of an interview from Harris on CNN
last night, the first interview she's given in forever, and
she had Tim Walls by her side, which does happen.

(01:14:57):
By the way, people do do interviews with their running mate,
usually not the only interview or the first interview. You
give months to go in a campaign. You usually do
some alone sit down ones too.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
But here we go.

Speaker 10 (01:15:09):
During that Biden Harris administration, there were record numbers of
illegal border crossings. Why did the Biden Harris administration wait
three and a half years to implement sweeping asylum restrictions?

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
A bill was crafted which we supported, which I support,
and Donald Trump got word of this bill that would
have contributed to securing our border, and because he believes
that it would not have helped him politically, he told
his folks in Congress, don't put it forward.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
He killed the bill. Energy is here. I'll stop it
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
There's something really important about this, So there's a significant debate.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I'm just going to tell you this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
If you don't know it, and if you do know it,
I apologize for the stupidity of thrown it out there.
But there's a lot of people that don't pay attention
to this stuff closely. And I don't blame you for that.
Your life is probably better if you don't pay attention
to this stuff every day. But Republicans do not think
that just supplying, say, more agents at the border is enough,
or that technology alone is a conduit. Specific technology is

(01:16:13):
a conduit to preventing the mass you crossings of people
illegally into our country. I like drones and things they
actually think, and you know this, and I know this,
and a whole lot of people know this, and now
actually Kamala Harris supports this. A wall is the right
answer to prevent people from coming into our country legally.
It's the best answer, It's the only answer. Everything else
wouldn't actually make the situation, as you know, incredibly valuable

(01:16:40):
or you know, functioning the way it's supposed to preventing
a legal immigration from occurring. And nothing else comes as
close to that solution. So the real reason that Republicans
said no to this bill was not necessarily because Trump
didn't like it for political reasons, but because it wouldn't
have actually fixed the issue. It would have been a
ton of spending at a time when the government was
already spending way too much money and causing inflation. At

(01:17:02):
least one way they were causing inflation was our spending.
And so they said, no, we're not gonna throw this
blank check in this way. That doesn't address this issue.
Let's just build a freaking wall. Is I think what
they wanted to say. I don't know if they said
it that way, but nonetheless, that's the truth. That's the conversation.
And once you spend a bunch of dollars trying to
fix something one way, it becomes even harder. Say, if

(01:17:24):
the other people get in charge later that would be
Trump and his administration to go ahead and spend more
money for the real solution. Now we've doubled the spending
on something that they're going to say, well, now now
it's way too expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
But that's what you do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
You run up the credit card when you're in office,
and then you tell the other guy he can't run
up the credit card because it's already happened. So it's
not it wasn't just to have a political win. That's
a very lazy way of talking about this, I think,
but nonetheless an important issue and a conversation where Harris
goes the road of blaming Trump. All right, there's something
else out there. I want to talk about and I'm
not sure it's gonna go well, but we're gonna We're

(01:18:00):
going to do this anyway, because darn it, it feels
like we should. And it's viral enough that I wanted
to discuss it. So a guy, his name is Marquise.
He went to a Chick fil A here in the
United States. He did this somewhat recently. I guess he
eats at Chick fil A a lot. This actually happened in Maryland,
not that that part matters, but anyway, he went through

(01:18:22):
the drive through a loan. He's a black guy, he said,
his name is Marquise and a seventeen year old. I
don't know who or what the person looks like, and
I think this guy really wanted to know what the
person looks like. Wrote monkeys on the receipt, not Marquise,
but monkeys, and then Marquise made a video and things
went viral and there's a big discussion. Before I give

(01:18:42):
you my take, will I want to play a little
bit of the audio of the guy going into the
store looking for the individual who wrote it because he
wanted to talk to them, and also talking to other
people about what's going to happen. Next, and then getting
a phone number to a store manager. I will point
one thing out. Half of the staff working in this

(01:19:03):
specific Chick fil A are young black people. The seventeen
year old person who wrote this, I don't I don't
know if we know anything about them, but fifty to
fifty chants as far as the employees that are working
there right now, that the individual who wrote it's black
and not white. I don't know if that makes things different,
even for Marquise. Let's go ahead and hit play first.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Nobody can't ask my question, your question. I ask them.

Speaker 22 (01:19:29):
They ignore me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
I said, is the guy who wrote monkeys on my receipt?

Speaker 8 (01:19:33):
Is he available?

Speaker 22 (01:19:33):
I want to talk to him.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
I have steak bred now?

Speaker 11 (01:19:37):
Is he still here?

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Okay, I'm gonna make sure that this video goes vowd Well,
this is unacceptable.

Speaker 17 (01:19:44):
Yesterday, I agree, I'm sorry to have that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
So I just want to make sure I got you
on camera too. So, who I'm putting down monkeys? Did
you would you feel of funded by that?

Speaker 9 (01:19:55):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:19:56):
I understand, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
By the way, the woman he's talking to is a
black woman, a young black woman. I'm guessing she's in
her twenties. And she says, yeah, I would feel offended
by that. I get the reaction to it. Hear's like,
just the real, honest take though on a very complicated topic.
And I'm a white dude in my late thirties, so
darn it, I'm barreling deep into the world of twenty
twenty four trying to cancel me. Is there a chance

(01:20:21):
that a seventeen year old person talking over one of
those crappy microphone things that you get at a fast
food restaurant, chick Flay or anywhere else, heard monkeys when
someone said Marquise? Is there a chance that that occurred?
You ask yourself that question. Maybe they didn't even know
the race of the person that was speaking to them.
Maybe they thought it was a joke. Maybe they thought

(01:20:41):
someone drove through the drive through and said their name
was Monkeys as a joke. And honestly, as I watch
this happen, and I see a bunch of the staff
behind this woman who seems like she might be some
sort of assistant manager or something at the store. There's
a bunch of young like black kids. There's three young
black men in this video who don't seem like they're irate,

(01:21:02):
who don't seem like they're, you know, angry the way
that the customer is. And if you had someone working
with you who was such a blatant racist that they'd
use a slur like that to refer to a black
guy going through the drive through, I feel like there'd
be more anger within the team. I feel like that
guy would probably have done horrible things to some of

(01:21:22):
his co workers at some point, if he, in fact
is that kind of person. And then taking it one
step further, I've been to Starbucks before and when they
used to write my name on the cup, they'd get
Craig wrong all the time. I was all kinds of names.
I was Kreeg, I was Greg, I was all kinds
of stuff. And when you see a wrong name, but
you know that you know phonetically what I say and

(01:21:45):
what they wrote could somehow blend. Then you think about
Marquise and monkeys, and it's very different than say, if
his name was anything else. If someone named Paul went
through that establishment and then looked down at the receipt
and that and saw that word there, I think it'd
be an even a stronger demonstration of the likelihood. And

(01:22:05):
I don't know for sure, what motivates anyone to do
anything or any of this, but the likelihood that this
is actually a race thing. And what's even more interesting
when you look at this video, which has gone very
viral all over social media, is the responses because you
see a lot of comments from people saying that it's
either completely you know, racial, and people who said, well,

(01:22:26):
maybe it's not. And you know what, it reminded me
of one other thing. And this is a dramatic to
go this road too, but darn it. I feel like
I can say whatever I want and we'll see if
that's true or not. I remember that fight that happened,
and you probably remember that fight that happened where it
was a bunch of white guys that had owned a
boat and then refused to move a boat when another

(01:22:49):
boat was docking in the same area, and a bunch
of black people getting in a fist fight, and a
whole lot of people from the periphery seeing the image
of that, the visual of that said that that was
obviously a race thing. That the group of white guys
who didn't want to move their boat, I didn't move
it because the other boat coming in even though it

(01:23:10):
was like, you know, a big, giant ferry boat was
full of black people, so it was racially motivated. You
find out later, not when that story broke, but I
think within a few days of it that all those
white dudes were drunk. It doesn't mean that they're allowed
to behave racial if they're drunk. But is there a chance,
I'm just throwing this out there too, that they had
no idea that the other boat that was trying to

(01:23:32):
dock in their space was a ferry boat full of
mostly black people. Maybe they were just jerks who were
drunk and didn't want to move their boat for anybody.
Maybe that's the chance. And so I just think it's
so interesting that if you talk about this stuff in
our society, in our world, that you can ask yourself
a question like, hey, is this racial? Yes or no?

(01:23:52):
And people can look at you and say it definitely is.
At one hundred percent is I know for sure it is?
And then other people say, I'm not really sure if
it is. So I don't really know what to say
in response to that, and just the option seems to
be so removed for so many But anyway, that's a
topic out there that I thought was really interesting. This

(01:24:12):
is Craig Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show,
and then.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
A little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Before I actually take this break, I should tell you
that in response to a lot of this, I think
that Chick fil A has said they're not actually going
to fire the young person, the seventeen year old who
made the mistake. And I wonder why that is. And
I wonder if maybe it's because the individual convinced whoever
that they did it by accident, as opposed to it

(01:24:40):
being a reality.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
There's a chance there when you think about this stuff,
that you think to yourself that when people are trying
to solve a question like this, that maybe they have
some information that they haven't shared publicly for whatever reason.
I wonder what the race is of the individual who
did this. Still not that I should, but darn it.
That's where we are now in society. All right, break
a lot more. Greg Collins filling in on the Chad

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This is the chand Benson Show. My name is Greg Collins.
Filling in football is back. You've probably seen some college
football already, hopefully or you will see some college football
over the next few days over the weekend. NFL football
is something people are talking about and excited about. Patrick
Mahomes didn't interview, and Taylor Swift was of course a

(01:26:48):
topic because how do you not And honestly, it's media
and they were obsessed with Swift last time.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
And yeah, I was annoyed.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I think there are a lot of people who don't
hate Taylor Swift, but we're also annoyed at seeing her
so often on the side lines at games.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
If you were watching NFL on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
But here's what Patrick Mahomes said about Swift, And there's
something about this, like I actually pictured it, and maybe
it's a preseason game and not an actual regular season game,
but Swift on the sideline with you know, the headset
on a looking down at the playbook and calling a play.
There's something about that that might be entertaining. I'm not
saying I actually want that, but it might be entertaining.

(01:27:25):
Because this is what Mahome said.

Speaker 9 (01:27:27):
It's been a heck of a ride and I'm enjoying
every single bit of it.

Speaker 18 (01:27:30):
Yeah you should. Do you feel like you notice a
difference like with Taylor Swift, Like even when you go out,
you're the most famous snort guy in America, But do
you feel like it even went up to another level
with the Taylor Swift locusion.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
I think it's been cool to see the girls and
the women that have really embraced watching football and I know,
being a girl dad, how much how cool it is
for me. I mean to see like these little girls.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
The reason I laugh, by the way, I'll go ahead
and explain that is it's sort of funny. I know,
Patrick Mahomes married man and everything, but this say, if
you go hang out with Daylor Swift and the amount
of young women who come up to you and are like, oh,
I love you, Patrick Mahomes and being like, man, I
don't know how to take that.

Speaker 9 (01:28:07):
She's daughters and how much they're loving and spend time
with their with their dad watching football. And then meeting
Taylor and realized how genuine and cool she is. I mean,
I think that's been special to me because I mean, she's,
like you said, the most fans person in the world.
She could not be, and she's really interested in football,
and she asked a lot of great questions. She's already
drawn up place, so we might have to put one in.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Oh gosh, that's amazing, that's awesome. Well, as a father
of a daughter as well. I'm with you there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
It's really cool like.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
That he's already drawn up plays. We might have to
put one in.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
There's something hilarious about that though, in all honesty, because
maybe that does change people's opinion on Swift. If she
showed some sort of actual understanding of the sport of
football by drawing up a successful play, maybe that's the
way to the hearts of everybody that bahumbugged her last year.
I'm not sure, but I do love that it's already
out there. Man, it's already a topic, all right. This
is a crazy world in which we all live, but

(01:28:56):
football is lovely and I am Greig Collins filling in
on the Chat Benson Show. Chad will be back just
after the holiday, but more coming up in a bit.
And by a bit, I mean like literally right now,
that's what I mean a bit. I do want to
see what a play would be from a Taylor Swift,
you know. I wonder if the formation would in some way,

(01:29:17):
shape or form be somehow talking about in a relationship
that she was recently lost. Maybe somebody who stands and
maybe Travis Kelcey stands on the side and is a
decoy and doesn't actually participate in the play at all.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
Maybe he just like stands and cries in the corner.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
That feels like a mean Swift joke, and I tried
to resist it, but I couldn't help myself. It's out
there and it's in the world now. But anyway, the
fact that that's a conversation this early on in the
season is something that well, we're not going to be
able to reset. There is other stuff out there, serious
stuff to talk about. Krispy Kreme is also selling donuts
for two dollars all Labor Day weekend. That's a dozen

(01:29:54):
donuts for two bucks. The reason that's bad just quickly
for me to throw it out there. Sometimes my wife
and I pick what fast food restaurant to go to
based on how much money it's gonna cost, and I
hate that in the back of my brain. Now I
know it's two bucks to get a dozen donuts at
Krispy Kreme, because like it could be out there.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
Is it a wise decision for dinner?

Speaker 10 (01:30:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Is it a financially responsible decision for dinner. It just
so happens to be for the next couple of days.
So I can't wait for my wife to try to
throw something at me after I genuinely suggest we go
grab a dozen donuts over the weekend for say, our.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
Saturday night meal.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
But again, it's probably gonna go poorly, so it's not
gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
I'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Maybe I'll get a dozen on my own, a quick break,
a lot more. Craig Collins, hopefully donutited at some point
in the near future, filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Such Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
Independent Thoughts, Independent Life.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
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Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
My name is Craig Collins, filling in just quickly. Not
a political story, but a story I couldn't get over
that's out there in the world. I think USA Today
has one of the headlines on this. But a woman
at a Wells Fargo died in August on the sixteenth,
so on a Friday. She's sixty years old, her name Denise.
She clocked in at seven o'clock that morning and she

(01:31:45):
passed away at some point at her desk at work.
She wasn't found till the twentieth. What's crazy about this is,
I guess a couple things. Just the insanity of saying
that out loud is one, but two, it's mostly a
work from home bilding, so a whole lot of people
don't actually show up in the office.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
They work remotely.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
It does have twenty four hour, seven day a week security,
so there are cameras and things you'd assume. I don't
know if they're actually in individual offices. But the reason
they discovered the human being is because there started to
be a bad smell and people didn't know what it was,
and they thought there was a plumbing issue, and then
they discovered that a woman had died in her office.

(01:32:25):
Just a surreal story to be out of the United States.
This is something you sometimes see as a story in
other countries. I didn't know how to take this, Like
the first thing I thought of this is selfish and terrible,
but I'm going to tell you because it's on the radio,
and darn it, you might think of yourself too. Is
like how it would be if it was me, Like
how horrible that would be if that was you, or

(01:32:46):
if you die at your desk at some point. I
think it's something that terrifies a lot of people because
it's the number one place I don't think you want
to pass away at work. I think you want to
do that anywhere else. But obviously probably some sort of
sudden health thing. They said there were no signs of
foul play at all, but the fact that you're then
stuck there for several days talk about a weird I

(01:33:08):
don't even I don't want to make light of any
of This is a horrible story. It's terrible, but talk
about a weird and I mean this genuinely. It might
sound like a joke, but a strange version of this
is why work from home is bad. This is why
remote is bad, as you have offices that are so
you know, very few people in them. Granted, I know
this sounds like a joke, but I'm being serious in
saying it, that you could have something like this actually happened.

(01:33:29):
Like it's inconceivable to me that this would occur and
people wouldn't notice that someone had passed away in your
office building until you're told that it's over a weekend
for the most part, and then also that most people
don't actually go to that office at all. But horrible story.
Definitely a viral story. And I think part of the
reason why is that selfish thing that takes all of
us being like, oh my god, that'd be horrible if

(01:33:50):
that was that was me. But you feel bad for
her family for sure. All right, other things out there
will shift to things that are definitely not that, but
things that are political. A voter says, I just don't
think Kamala Harris has anything vested in black or Hispanic communities.
This was MSNBC who aired this. I do love the

(01:34:12):
sit downs with voters that happen on all kinds of news,
left leaning, right leaning. I guess there are supposed to
be independent places out there. I don't know that I
know of very many, but I love it because, like
it's just such a weird collection of people. You never
know if this person actually represents the mass opinion or
the exact opposite of it. But it is interesting when

(01:34:33):
you hear people say that one of their biggest concerns
with the vice president is that even though she's touting
that she's you know, black, or that she's Indian, of
course talked about the factor, at least her campaign does
that she'd be historic president on a lot of different
fronts that people within the communities that she's highlighting she's

(01:34:56):
a part of don't really think she cares about them.

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
That feels like that's a big deal, or at least
it should be. Here we go.

Speaker 28 (01:35:02):
I just don't think that Kamala Harris has anything vested
in the airfinger quote black or Hispanic experience inso much
as it would be identified by anybody that lives in
those communities.

Speaker 23 (01:35:13):
You're saying you don't think that she can help black
or brown people.

Speaker 28 (01:35:16):
No, I mean going to Howard, don't make you black.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Okay, that's the thing that got said.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
That's a black eye speaking, by the way, So that's
why I probably just yelled out, Okay, nothing else I'm
going to give you. I don't know if I should
talk about this, but darn it I will. I'm going
to give you some personal, first hand experience. So I
talked about on a different radio program I do about
a week or so ago. This whole thing, the thing
about Harris highlighting her ethnicity in ways that she hasn't

(01:35:43):
for a lot of her political career. For most of
her political career, she's highlighted being Indian. She has not
really talked as much about being black, and now all
of a sudden, she's talking quite a bit or at least,
her campaign is talking quite a bit about her being
ethnically black, and even more so if if you know
the history of the human being. She was raised by
her mom who is Indian or was Indian, mostly without

(01:36:08):
her father in her life, who would be the black
part of her ethnicity. So was she raised by an
individual in a certain way that would make her more
familiar with one culture than another culture?

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
Is that a wrong question to ask? Am I allowed
to say that out loud?

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
I had a listener reach out to me and tell
me that they're frustrated because their whole life, this guy's Filipino.
He's been told he's not Filipino enough, that he doesn't
understand his culture the way that other people do or whatever,
and it makes him mad and it's racist and it's
horrible and it's terrible. And so the first thing I
asked the listener when I heard from him, was, well,

(01:36:44):
who's saying that to you? Are the people who are
saying that to you Filipino or are they people who aren't?
And he said, well, no, mostly the people who he
hears from are people that are of the ethnicity that
say that he doesn't understand them. And there's something about that,
and I didn't challenge the listener anymore. I don't know
enough about it to truly understand what the problems are.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
I don't even want to try to guess at those situations.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
But if people within a community tell you based on
the things they see you say and do publicly, however,
they don't feel like you understand them. I don't think
the right response is to just say, how dare you?
I think the right response like, let's say and this
is the best way. I can also equate this. I'm Italian.
My grandfather was much more Italian than I am, but

(01:37:30):
I have Italian ethnicity within my family. If I went
to Italy right now and pretended that I was the
same as the people there, they would laugh at me.
And actually, I know an even better version of this
because I'm married to someone from another country.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
My wife is from Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
I know what it's like to be in Mexico around
family members and experience Mexican culture, the real kind, the
kind that's in Mexico, And then I know what it's
like to experience a version of that culture here in
the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
And they're different.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
I'm not saying one's better worse, and you can attack
me for saying that too, but this is a reality,
and so I just think it's fascinating and this might
be a long tirade on this topic to truly discuss that,
to not discuss it within the how dare you say that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
Out loud?

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
A version of talking which immediately rejects and shuts down
the ability for a conversation before one can even be had,
but instead accepts the idea that this black man is
saying from what he's seen of the Vice president, he
doesn't think she has the same appreciation for his culture
that she should have for that culture, and that's the

(01:38:34):
reason that he thinks that she might not have a
vested enough interest Caro. I'll play it again because I
think it's a really powerful way to say this, to
say that I'm not sure that she's invested, or he
says vested enough in our experience, because she doesn't actually
have it to the degree that I do.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
And again, these aren't my words, these are his. Here
we go.

Speaker 28 (01:38:56):
I just don't think that Kamala Harris has anything asted
in the airfinger quote black a Hispanic experience inso much
as it would be identified by anybody that lives in
those communities.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
You're saying you don't think that she can help blacker
brown people.

Speaker 28 (01:39:10):
No, I mean going to Howard, don't make you black.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
It's very interesting again, and I thought he really said
it in a good way, and even the reporter tried
to rephrase it, and I think a terrible way. But
saying that if you don't have a certain life experience,
you can't put yourself in a certain situation.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
No, I've said this a lot. I live in Illinois.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
I've said this a lot about some of the politicians, well,
a lot of the politicians in my state.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
JB.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Pritzker, who's been rolled out on the national stage for
some reason. I don't think that he's someone that actually
will have a successful national career. But he's a billionaire.
He's worth tons and tons of money. His family has
been a wealthy his entire life. The reason I bring
that up is not to hate people are successful. That's
not the point, but to say out loud that when
you shut things down, if you're a governor of a

(01:39:56):
state who says that you're not allowed to do business anymore,
mister small business owner, you're not allowed to do this,
and you're not allowed to do that, and you'll figure
it out. You don't ever understand what it's like to
be worried about putting food on the table.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
You just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
It's not in your life experience. You show up at
home every night and there's food on the table. And
so if you're a leader who can't put yourself in
that situation, you can envision it, but you can't actually
pull from a life experience of having having felt that,
you know, fear, then I don't think you are as
capable of someone who has felt that fear to make

(01:40:30):
a decision like that. I just think someone that actually
has lived through it has a little more insight into
how big of a problem it was to do the shutdowns,
lockdown things, and the amount of harm that it caused
throughout our country and throughout a whole lot of people's
families and lives. And so I just don't get that,
and I don't think i'll ever get that. And I
think this is a similar version of that of this

(01:40:51):
guy saying, you know, I have a life experience. I
was raised in a certain way by you know, a
certain community, and I don't think she was. And so
I see her and hear her and watch her. I
don't see myself. I see someone who doesn't really seem
like me, and that that is powerful and that does matter.
And that's not being a racist, by the way, at

(01:41:12):
least in my opinion, it's not. There's people probably yelling
at their radios that it is because this is a
guy that's the same race at least at least ethnicity wise,
ethnically saying, you know, I just don't. I just don't
feel a kindred spirit here. And I think that's a problem,
and I think that's going to be a problem when
it comes to policy decisions. I think that's a powerful discussion.

(01:41:33):
And I think the fact that it shouted down and
yelled at and like talked about the way it is
and whatever Trump says about it is essentially part of
the problem because it makes it so that you can't
have the conversation at all. And there is a intellectually
valuable conversation that exists there at least I hope I've
demonstrated that in my long you know, berating of this
point or this topic.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
All right, you know it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Actually I was going to take a break, but I'll
do something silly before break. Just to be a palate cleanser.
I don't know why I like that so much, but
I do. A guy in Colorado ordered guitar tuners from Amazon.
He got the guitar tuners, but his name is John.
He also got something he didn't expect in the mail
as item number two. And I love the joke I
just made, and you're gonna like it in a second.
I didn't even make it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
On purpose because it was a bag of well, here
we go.

Speaker 16 (01:42:20):
Well, I didn't know what it was because it was
kind of dark. I had just gotten home from work.
It was late at night, and I couldn't tell what
it was. And I reached in and then I smelled
it and I was on my hand and there was
poop in there.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
We haven't had any arguments with anybody or anything, and.

Speaker 16 (01:42:33):
We see the drivers occasionally and then just say thanks
and that's about it. I never had any like, you know,
major issues with any of the drivers, So I have
no idea. Well, I just hope they figure out who
it is that did it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
And i'd like to know why. Yeah, I would like
to know why.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
If I had two packages on my front porch, one
of them was the thing I ordered from Amazon, and
one of them was a box of poop.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
I would want to know why that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
I would want to know what mix up occurred there
and who they were trying to send it to, or
if someone really like me. But the fact that that
guy so calmly talks about that is incredible, because if
you got it on your fingers, man, I can't imagine
that in the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
That was his behavior.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
I feel like it was very different, and there were
probably hours and hours of cleaning and saying to yourself,
it'll never be clean again, It'll never be clean again.
And then you eventually go on the news and you
talk about how you just want answers. You just if
anybody deserves answers in this society, it's that guy. Give
him the answer to that question, why did someone put
poop in a box and put it on his porch?
We all want to know, or at least he wants

(01:43:32):
to know very badly. All right, quick break a lot more.
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Speaker 15 (01:45:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Creig Collins,
filling in. Chad is back after the holiday, happy to
be with you. Look, Boeing airplanes are terrifying right now.
It's okay to say it. You can say it, I'll
say it. We'll both say it. If you were on
a Boeing flight and the oxygen masks deployed midway through
the flight, that would be scarier than any other airplane.

(01:45:30):
It just would be You'd be like, oh my god,
what happened? Where's the door? Is every door still attached?
This happened on a flight I guess recently. It was
an accident. They didn't need the oxygen masks. They just
popped out, which is a weird thing to say. This flight,
I think was going into Leon, France. I probably didn't
say that as correctly as I should. The aircraft had
reportedly reached an altitude of thirty three thousand feet when

(01:45:53):
it appeared to experience a pressurization issue, which is not
a good sentence, causing the life saving accessory to deploy,
and people pretty afraid, and a lot of people putting
the mask out of being like, what's happening?

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Where are we going?

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
This is a unique time in our lives when air
flight is still or airplane travel is still incredibly safe.
But Boeing is not in the news for the right
reasons on a fairly consistent basis. So once again, I
find this interesting. And I would have been terrified, but
I would have had to pretend if the wife was
with me, you would have been like, oh, it's no
big deal. This happens all the time, the mask and

(01:46:26):
the thing, but put it on and pray to whatever
god you have. All right, other things out there that
I saw. I don't know why I was amused by this.
I don't like, you know, people being pranksters and trying
to go viral on the internet for it. And there's
a lot of morons who do this, but I like
the idea that they're afraid of getting punched in the face.
I don't know why. I don't want them to get

(01:46:48):
hit in the face and not trying to say that.
But at the same time, maybe somebody deserves one every
once in a while to stop being a moron. But
apparently that is the potential risk if you walk up
to people and say I heard heard about you, which
is the brand new, you know, being a jerk version
of social media idiot. You walk up to someone, a
complete stranger, you don't know them at all, and you

(01:47:10):
claim that you heard about them, and you say it
in an uh, you know, almost like as an accusation,
and then they don't They don't like it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:17):
I heard about you. You ain't heard about me? Yeah,
I heard about you. What you hear about I heard
all about you. You ain't heard nothing I heard about you.

Speaker 8 (01:47:23):
You've got to get out of my faith.

Speaker 5 (01:47:24):
Okay, it kicks out, man, I heard about you.

Speaker 11 (01:47:28):
What did you hear about me?

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Just about you? Honey, I don't know what you heard
if you don't know, but I heard about you though
it's probably all true too. Okay, Hey, hey, you I
heard about you. What you hear don't worry about what
I heard? But I heard about you face.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
I'm not getting out of your face.

Speaker 17 (01:47:43):
I was going to give out my face.

Speaker 6 (01:47:44):
You're gonna make it about my face.

Speaker 4 (01:47:45):
I don't do all it, but yeah, here, Honestly, this
is not a good move. This is not a smart decision.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
This is in Georgia, by the way, and many people
seem very upset with the I heard about you move,
so I wouldn't do it. But I do like the
fact that someone is saying it's risky because you might
get you might get hit one last thing, and I
can't get over this, and probably because I'm a millennial
that I think this is so interesting. A Capri San
is going to be changing their packaging. They're no longer
going to have the pouch that was difficult as a child,

(01:48:10):
more difficult than it should be to open correctly because
the straw either was too flimsy or the package seemed
to be made of actual iron and not whatever tinfoil it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:18):
Was supposed to be made of.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
But they're going to like plastic bottles, and a lot
of people are up in arms. A lot of people
are upset about this. The biggest reason is they're marketing
the product to adults now. Because all of us grew
up in the eighties and nineties, we now want nostalgia
in everything we purchase. You can't be a big boy
unless you have the plastic version of the capri San,

(01:48:40):
or you just drink like actual other liquids that aren't
designed for children. But nonetheless, I find this so funny
and so ridiculous, and it's insane, all right. This is
Craig Collins filling in on the Jad Benson Show. Not
missing the Caprisan pouch as much as many other people.
But if I had to pick, I probably would pick

(01:49:01):
the pouch instead of the plastic bottle, just because I
want to see if I can open it. As an
adult now I remember as a kid. Maybe that's the
moment where if you had a kid like I was,
where you're looking at your son and you're like, well,
he's probably not gonna be president. He's struggling with that
Caprisan just to tad too much. He might wind up
talking on the radio about stuff at some point, but
he's probably not going into the world of finance. That's

(01:49:22):
not where we're going to see him. It wasn't my fault, people,
I was a hard jabber. That feels like the wrong
thing to end this on. Craig Collins filling in Chad
Benson back after the holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
This is the Chad Benson Show.