Incoming Trump Border Czar Tom Homan Weighs in on Denver Mayor's Comments on Mass Deportations

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Creig Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about, just a couple of days before
the holiday. Here first, I guess I'll play this. The
borders are Tom Holman, the guy that Trump will actually
put in charge of the border, is already responding to
Denver Mayor Johnson's threat to block deportations. There are politicians

(00:40):
like the mayor and Denver that are saying that if
people are, you know, trying to be deported, if we
actually follow the law in this country, that they'll prevent it.
They'll stop it, they'll ignore it, they'll do all kinds
of things. Holman is the kind of guy who probably
doesn't care about what is being said. He'll care more
about the actions, and if you take certain action against

(01:01):
his policy or against his decision making, he'll do something
about it. That's what I thought was pretty interesting in
this interview he gave just the other day. I here's
a little bit of that audio of him saying exactly
what happens to the mayor of Denver or anyone else
if they ignore a deportation well.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, look, me and the Denver mayor, we agree on
one thing. He's willing to go to jail. I'm willing
to put him in jail because there's a statue his
Title eight United States called thirteen twenty four Triple Live,
and what it says is is a felony if you
knowingly harbor concealed illegal and immigration authorities. Is also a
family to impede federal enforcement officer. So if you know

(01:41):
on the hell, that's fine, he can get the hell
all the way. But we're going to go do the job.
President Trump has a mandative American people. We got to
secure this country. We got to save American lives.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And I love the way this is said because it's
a couple of things. It's not just if he does that,
I'm putting him in jail. It's if he does that,
I'm going to use this to put him in jail.
That I have the backing, I know the laws, I
know what I can do in order to move forward.
So go ahead if you want to try to prevent it,
if you want to try to stop it. I'm doing
what the American people want me to do. I'm taking

(02:13):
action that was voted into power, because this is one
of the many things that Trump ran on. So I
love every part of this reaction. And there's so many
moments where this individual, Tom Holman, and he gets attacked
by the left for it has said the most basic
response version of a thing out loud to combat the argument,

(02:35):
it's not necessarily to combat the actual activity. I think
he's a man of his word. I'm not saying that
I think he wouldn't actually do these things. But for example,
he had done an interview I think this was a
few years ago where he was asked what to do
about breaking up families if you deport parents, and his
answer was, well, you can deport the whole family. That

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means if the kids want to go with the parents,
even if they're legally in the country, you can allow
them to go too. It's not something that you force
them to go. You're not deporting American citizens. But if
the parents need to take their kids because the kids
have no one else to be with and they don't
want to put them into a foster care system, that's
a decision that family gets to make, and he said,
we can do that. It's just interesting because again it

(03:19):
tries to fight the argument itself so often now, discussions
that you have and you might actually have over the holidays.
I kind of hope you don't have them, but hey,
it's probably not bad if you do. Are just about
pointing out any sort of extreme scenario to then tell
you that you're a bad person. If someone asked you,

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what would you do if you were in charge of
the border and you had to separate families. They want
that extreme answer, and Holman is willing to give it
all the time because it kind of ends the discussion.
And they can call him whatever they want to call him.
They can call you whatever they want to call you.
It's simply abiding by things like the law that seem
to have gone by the wayside for some of us

(04:03):
in this society. Not all of us, of course, but
some of us. And I just find that so fascinating
that these things can now be considered so horrible to
be said out loud, because they're just simplistic. They're just basic.
Another thing that I loved that was going on the
other day, CNN was debating elon Musk buying MSNBC. CNN

(04:24):
is certainly on the left, pretty far to the left, actually,
but MSNBC is even further to the left. So I
love the fact that CNN is trying to talk as
though they're the journalists in the room. I think they're
trying to make you believe that MSNBC has those two,
which is hilarious. But nonetheless is they talk about this,
they describe X in a way that their own network

(04:46):
has recently not described them via some polls of the
American people. And so I think this is another demonstration
of how out of touch the legacy media people are.
But I do want to play this because I do
think it's interesting the long debate about what would happen
if Elon Musk took over a cable news station, a
cable news television station. And also I love the fact

(05:08):
that it seems that some of the people on this
panel who claim to be experts in this stuff have
no idea what the FCC actually does when it comes
to cable television as opposed to say, broadcast TV.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Here we go platforms are not regulated right now, which
gives them carbland Shoe whatever they want right now. Elon
is not someone who likes to be regulated, and so
to buy msn he would go under some federal regulation's.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Regulating CNN right now, the FCC, we're not We're not
a brodcest.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I love this.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
I don't really think. I don't really think cable stations
are under the same regulatory structure.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
They're not that broadcast is.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
It's definitely regulated more than the than Facebook.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
And I'm sorry what she's saying, there's still a no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
She's not saying what you're about to say. She's saying
that she thought that the government would take their big
giant sword and attack all over this stuff. And she
totally forgot that people who have cable pay for it.
So it's different than broadcast television. It's not as censored,
it's not as regulated. None of those things apply, man,
And I love that the spin is now going to
be no, no, no. We hold ourselves to the standard

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that matters.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Tests of journalism that you have to pass. You can't
you and just make things, make up things and say
things that happens on its Please don't give me the
eyebrow furrow as if you don't know what I'm talking about.
It happens often on X. I can go and say
the color is blue, and I will be massed.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
Many disrespectful remarks.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
No, she wanted to say that the sky is blue
and that people would object to that, but she said
the color is blue, which I love. Again. Yeah, you do.
You make up stuff all the time. On television, especially
MSNBC and a bunch of those places. They still say
that Donald Trump called white supremacists good people, and that's
not true. That never happened. But darn it. That's one

(06:57):
of many things they just lie about and say what
they want to tell you and leave out the information
they don't want to tell you, et cetera, et cetera.
It absolutely happens. It happens every day, all the time.
I love. The pretending nature or the delusional behavior is
probably what I should call it. Of all this in
claiming that there's a higher standard for some of these

(07:18):
things than there actually is, and television is falling by
the wayside to the average consumer, the average American does
not pay as much attention the TV as they used to,
at least news television, even your local news TV stations
are going to tell you that they're not doing as
well as they used to do if they're telling the truth,
Because more and more people are getting their information elsewhere.

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Because the information they've been given by these other media
outlets hasn't been good enough. They've decided themselves that it
wasn't correct, it wasn't accurate, or it wasn't in depth
enough for me to actually understand what's going on, etcetera,
etceterare a little bit more.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
One's regulating the inward. No one's regulating the criticism. No
one is regulating howe.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
How much of the First Amendment are you for? Let
me tell you something. I love that, by the way,
because it is awesome. How much First Amendment regulations are
you actually for? By the way, though acts Twitter it
does regulate hate speech to a degree, it does not
as much as it used to before, because it doesn't
consider certain things hate speech anymore, like saying that Trump

(08:22):
is a good president. That's something that old Twitter probably
would have censored you for. But it does pull down
things that are threats. It pulls down things that Elon
says are against the law, that are illegal. Those things
still are not allowed on Twitter. It's just amazing the
amount of people who think that it's different. And here
this is the other part that I wanted to play,
and then I promised to move on from this topic.
This is a discussion about how balanced Twitter actually is

(08:46):
because you can hear both sides. It's quite easy for
me right now to go on that platform and hear
people that are far left or far right about whatever
things they believe. I can find both sides, and one
side is fleeing by their own choice, not because they're
actually getting kicked off of Twitter. That's quite a bit
different than when the right and a lot of people

(09:06):
during COVID say we're getting their accounts banned. To leave
willingly is a very different decision. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
So I heard what you're saying about X. I saw
a survey this week. It's now the most ideologically balanced.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
God stop, stop, it's too early.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I just sat down. I've been here for.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
You cannot say that what I find, We've reported it
all the work. It's not accurate, and you know it, okay,
Can I can I reframe it a different way?

Speaker 8 (09:38):
Because what the site changed radically? Right, So whether you
think the voices it are it is somehow more balanced. Now,
that's fine, But no doubt Must's influence is profound, and
that you open it up and now you're there with
his opinion and he is now yes.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
He gives his opinion. It's open to everybody's opinion. I
love that she says that she goes it changed. It
used to be very friendly to one side and very
unfriendly to the other side, and now you actually can
see both opinions, and if you share your far left opinion,
you might actually hear from people say in your comment
section that disagree with you. That's quite a bit different
than it used to be before. And you can block them.

(10:16):
You can make these decisions on your own if you
want to. It's just so funny to me that hearing
the other opinion is enough to make one side mad,
because both sides don't feel this way. And by the way,
I have one last thing that I want to play,
and I know I only have a little bit of
time before we have to take our first break, so
I'll try to play this quickly. This is some delusional, moron,

(10:36):
idiot guy saying that he's showing up at Trump's inauguration
and he'd like to stop it himself by getting on
stage and speaking. He has nothing that he'll say that
would move everyone to act a certain way. So I
love the fact that he believes that if his friends
the far left. People that he's hoping are also protesting
Trump's inauguration are there will do this. Of course, you

(10:59):
can compare it to any sort of insurrection. I don't
think he's bringing weapons, so I'm not going to be
as as crazy about that as others are. But here,
I just want to play a little bit of what
he says.

Speaker 9 (11:08):
All right, So let's talk about what it is that
I actually mean to do on inauguration Day. So there's
gonna be a lot of people there, a lot of
people on his side and a lot of people protesting
on our side. I mean to meet as many people
as I can try to convince them to work together
in a cool competition.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
What he's saying there, he wants to have them get
him on stage forward.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
Grasp that future with both hands.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
And rip it a punt.

Speaker 9 (11:40):
The future I see is not one I accept. The
future I want is one that I will build.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Crazy. He's just absolutely crazy.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
We'll play more of that later. A lot coming up
on the show today. This is Craig Collins filling in
on the Chad Benson Show. Chad, We'll be back after
the holidays one more time. My name is Craig Collins
filling it.

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Speaker 2 (13:07):
This is a Chad Benson Schell, my name is Creig Collins,
stuff to talk about out there in the world. A
TikToker filmed themselves stealing five hundred dollars of this guy
from Target. This was in Florida, twenty two years old.
This is the kind of stupidity that you're seeing all
the time. Now. I actually have audio of one of

(13:29):
the officers saying how easy it was to catch this
person because they put the video of the crime up
for everyone to see.

Speaker 11 (13:36):
We actually had one person reach out on Instagram and say, hey,
I want to remain anonymous, but here's their name and
data birth and their Instagram handle. So from there we
were able to look up her social media front and
even find on TikTok. She posted a video that day
of herself going to Target, buying these items and then
taking them home with her. Everything was documented, even the

(13:57):
outfit that she wore. It she was like her getting
ready with the out fit and even her glasses and
all of that matches in the TikTok with the attempt
to identify photo that we put out.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, that's amazing. They have the get Ready with Me
video is what it's called. When you try on all
the outfits and you decide you're gonna wear for your
shoplifting day. Then you go to the store wearing the
stuff that the cops have photos of you in do
the thieving that they also decide to tape on for
their own social media account, and then leave the store
and be like, Hey, that worked, that's great, and that

(14:27):
gets reported and they get in trouble. That's hilarious to me.
This is the kind of stuff. And I've made this
joke before because we see this all the time that
people used to joke about that didn't happen. You record
yourself committing a crime and then you go to some
sort of courtroom and they play back the video. But
now it happens often for a lot of young people.
They're just like, ah, this is okay. No one's going

(14:49):
to watch my social media after I do this. There's
no way they could catch me with this crime. I
mentioned this yesterday too, by the way, and I intend
to play it maybe a little bit later on in
the show. But the video has gone viral. A woman
in Nashville posted a video of her dad listing things
that his wife says to him that are okay to

(15:09):
be said if a missus says it to their husband,
but if he were to say those things back to her, well,
he would be sleeping on the couch. So I have
that audio, and I did mention that story a little
bit yesterday, So again, we'll probably play that later on
in the show because I love it, and maybe it's
the exact time of a year, you know, the holidays,
to point these sort of things out to people and
then to share them on social media because I'm sure

(15:31):
it's going to help him win an argument at some
point with the missus. And by that I'm very much kidding.
That's not usually a good way to go to try
to defeat somebody in some sort of discussion. As I said,
Craig Collins filling in a lot more coming up on
the Chad Benson Show. You know what, why don't we
play a little bit of this audio right now? Actually,
since we have an extra second here.

Speaker 12 (15:52):
Thens your mother has said to me that I can
never said to her. Change your pants before we leave
your ass sage number twos. You look like an axe murderer.

Speaker 13 (16:06):
Terrible.

Speaker 14 (16:07):
This is my favorite.

Speaker 12 (16:08):
Fix your shirt so your belly is sick out, all.

Speaker 9 (16:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm not sure that the vocal sounds that are being
made by this guy is he's complaining about this are
the most beneficial ones, especially that last part there when
he's saying that he doesn't have a belly, because there's
something about it that's a little bit too squeaky for me.
I don't know how to say that differently. I feel

(16:43):
like if you do speak like that, you might have
a few more things said to you than anybody else.
But he is complaining about it. It is hilarious and
he's absolutely right. As somebody who's also married, I know
this rule. You can't say the same stuff they can
to you. And if you complain after they tell you
that you need to change your shoes because they don't
match at all the rest of your outfit or whatever
they say, they're just doing it out of love. They're

(17:04):
just doing it to help you. And if you say
it to them, well, you're just being mean. That's just
totally or you don't understand something. Probably you're not as fashionable.
These are the rules, people, We just need to follow
them and you have a happy relationship, all right, Quick
break a lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the
Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 13 (17:35):

Speaker 1 (17:56):

Speaker 2 (18:00):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Let's get right
into it. One thing that I found to be a
pretty triggering conversation for a lot of people out there
that I wonder why I genuinely do and I know
I can promptly answer the question, but let's actually do
the exercise and see how you feel. Trump is talking

(18:22):
about adding new tariffs to China, Mexico, and Canada. A
whole bunch of stuff that would come into our country
would have a twenty five percent tariff on those goods.
There'd be some goods that would have even additional tariffs
ten percent higher tariffs potentially on China specifically. So here's
the thing. If you talk about this stuff and you say,

(18:42):
all right, what does this do? This causes prices to
go up and Americans will pay more money, et cetera,
et cetera, all the different complaint stuff and then actually
you see from Canada or China the amount of complaints
we're getting from people saying that they don't want to
see this happen. What's the end goal though, The end
goal is to improve the creation of goods, items, you know,

(19:05):
jobs that are needed to do this here in the
United States. It's to give us more ability to not
look to these other countries to import all of these
things that we spend our money on. And so, could
there be pain points at the beginning of a process
like this, sure there could. At the same time, I
think what Trump is hoping to do, this is my

(19:27):
own assumption based on the things he said, is raised
tariff so much that he gets rid of income taxes
for all of us entirely. You no longer pay any
taxes at all on the money you make. This is
a thing that the United States did for a very
long time until the earlier part of the nineteen hundreds,
So it wouldn't be completely radical. Darn it. It's been

(19:48):
a while since it occurred, but again, it was something
that we did a lot of. If you don't do this,
this is the thought exercise I wanted to have with you.
How do you create more items and thus more jobs
here in this country and stop allowing so many to
just send those jobs to other places and bring in

(20:10):
goods from other places. What would you do if you
were in charge, how would you incentivize? And that's one
thing that I think both Democrats and Republicans are willing
to do. Companies to create more products here and then
also prevent the temptation of creating them elsewhere. There's not
a lot of other ways to do this. I'm making
it costlier is something different than saying you just can't

(20:33):
do it. The regulation isn't forcing companies to not make
a decision. It's just evening the playing field. It's making
the costs to pay American workers to make things in
American factories essentially the same as importing things from somewhere else.
So I don't know why this is always seen as
such a horrible, terrible decision, because the end goal would

(20:56):
not benefit us. And if enough money is made in
all of these different things to get rid of income
tax entirely, which I know Trump can't do alone, I
know that's probably a pipe dream of pipe dreams in
the world of things that he would change, or that
his administration would change, or conservatives in general Republicans would
try to change. But I've said this before and I'll

(21:17):
say it again, it would make him the most popular
president in the history of our country if he did
away with all taxes for all of us. That's how
we think. We wouldn't care if it was Trump, we
wouldn't care if it was Biden. To be honest, even
though his brain is broken, if the amount of money
you made all of a sudden was actually the amount
of money that a company offered you when you signed

(21:39):
in the dotted line and you didn't see a whole
bunch of it go elsewhere, you'd probably still pay some
amount of state taxes and other things, depending on where
you live. I live in Florida now, so I'd be
very happy about these situations. But again, just getting us
more money as a collective would make us happier. I
don't know if that truly means that the cost of
items would go up so much that it would be irrelevant,

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but that is what we saw during the Biden administration.
Anything they claimed to have done to say that you
made more money, that you were better off wasn't true
because the cost of items went up way more than
any amount of wage increase occurred in this country. You
know that, and I know that, so again, I go
back to the base of question, and then I'll move
on from this topic. How would you create a scenario

(22:24):
if you were in charge for all the people who
complain about these policies that Trump wants to put in
place and the things he can do via executive order,
how would you create a world in which the United
States created more of its own goods and sold them
in the United States to the American people, in which
we have more jobs and hopefully lower cost items than
what you can get abroad. That is the way to

(22:46):
do it. Tariffs is the way to do it. So
it's a promise he made, and it's a goal that
he would actually be chasing, which to me again would
be a good thing. All right, let's move on to this.
I think this is pretty interesting. This is Jasmine Crime
on MSNBC, which might very soon be owned by Elon Musk,
which would be hilarious, saying that she's so upset, so

(23:08):
very upset that Donald Trump is not in jail because
well darn it, they tried to put him in jail,
it didn't work out, and so now what are they
going to do about it. It's amazing to hear people
discuss these topics too, because however, you feel, you could
hate Trump, you could think that he's a person who
committed a thousand crimes and deserved to be in jail
the rest of his life, whatever it might be. And

(23:31):
even the rhetoric that he is a convicted felon, and
a lot of people will say thirty four counts or whatever.
They don't realize it's all one case, which is sort
of amazing to me. They think that he got found
guilty in like twenty different court rooms of twenty different
things that didn't happen. But nonetheless, this version of discussion,
Trump just overwhelmingly won the presidential election, and a whole

(23:54):
lot of Americans said they didn't believe that the attacks
in court had value, because if we all did believe that,
we wouldn't have voted him into office anyway. And yet
here they are the politicians saying that he deserves to
be in jail and not in the White House.

Speaker 15 (24:09):
Yeah, the reality is that this case will go nowhere
because Donald Trump is going to be the president of
the United States. As it relates to what potential opportunities.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Exist past this, I don't know.

Speaker 15 (24:22):
There may be an opportunity to toll the statute in
some way. I haven't read through his dismissal, but I'm
sure it probably was not a dismissal with prejudice, And
so this is probably the cleanest way to get out
of it and still be able to have a shot
at Donald Trump, should he not serve out the entire
four years of his term, or should he serve out

(24:43):
the full four years, but potentially still have some options
for holding him accountable. You know, I just think that
it's a travesy, though, because he should have been held
accountable way before we were able to go through another election.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Now, granted for what, by the way, the thing that
he was found guilty of, it's usually a misdemeanor charge,
and it's about business, you know, business record keeping essentially
and not doing it correctly. That's the only thing they
found him guilty of. These other cases didn't even actually
make it to a trial and didn't make it to

(25:16):
a decision. So you can't assume that he's guilty when
he could have proved himself innocent, which is what she's
doing here to even make this argument.

Speaker 15 (25:22):
Considering the fact that he was held accountable for thirty
four felony convictions and that still didn't change some people's minds.
It may not have changed some people's minds. I don't know,
but I do think that if we are going to say.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Again, I love that, you know what I'm done with her,
But I do love that because those thirty four felony
convictions is one case, and it was the way in
which they categorized certain spending within the Trump administration, within
the Trump Company, not the Trump administration, not the government.
And again, most people going into that case, I'll just
remind you if you don't know, most people going into

(25:56):
that case said to inflate the misdemeanor charges to felony
charge was one of the most creative versions of attempts
in our judicial system to go after someone. And it's
not the kind of thing they would do against anyone
not named Trump. And even finding him guilty, the jury
didn't say what the other crime he committed was. They

(26:17):
didn't pick. They were given options, and they didn't have
to pick. To increase those charges to felonies for misdemeanors.
It's complicated. I shouldn't try as hard as I did
to explain it, but it's just ridiculous, all right. One
last thing, and I do like this too. This is
talking about the idea of trusting the FBI in the
Trump transition team. I just played audio for you of

(26:38):
all the different people who went after Trump and try
to get Trump in a whole lot of trouble. And
so should he trust the FBI is a question that
I think a lot of people within his administration are
probably asking. Speaking out about the Senate's role here watch
with some of his cabinet picks.

Speaker 13 (26:54):
Donald Trump is well on his way to dismantling our government. Yeah,
and the way that it operates. And we in Congress,
the Republicans, especially in the Senate, need to be a
check in balance to ensure that our government continues to
function for the people.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Our government doesn't function function for the people. Just quickly,
before I even get to the other part of the audio,
that matters a lot of people believe that. Most Americans
believe that, and so to say that part out loud
is to already ignore the sentiment that's coming from the
people themselves. I want to make sure you understand that,
because when people start to say, when anyone out there

(27:31):
starts to say that, how dare you want to see
this get changed? Or that get changed, or this part
of our government get disrupted. Just go to the most
basic level of your own personal feelings about whether or
not Washington operates in benefit of you or in benefit
of them. And if you feel like it operates and
benefit of them, then keep stepping up that ladder until

(27:53):
you get to the point where you say to yourself,
all right, something needs to change, and how do you
change it? And know that Washington will resist this change,
the power structure will fight it. So sometimes you have
to force right at the beginning the hardest version of
we're coming after you that you can, because otherwise, if
you come after somebody weak, they're just going to bat

(28:15):
it away and they're going to attack you for that.
If you're going to fight, you better fight to win.
That's my assumption. Here, here's a little more the fourteenth Amendment,
and he's going to dismantle He's going to dismantle corruption.
Maybe that is the plan.

Speaker 16 (28:28):
Sure, Dan, we'll take that under advisement. The idea that
by getting elected by the popular vote and the electoral
college and then naming people to his cabinet, he's dismantling
the government seems insane to me, and I would like
to echo Molly with the idea that the idea that
the FBI should be trusted by a Trump transition team.

(28:50):
I cannot express how wild that is without using cuss words.

Speaker 11 (28:54):
I'm really I'm.

Speaker 17 (28:55):
Having trouble because these people were engaged in the most
regius behavior, lying to the Pisa Court to literally spy
on members of his campaign.

Speaker 16 (29:06):
And then they're going to come down tomorrow. I'll go
and be like, we got this, let us bet everyone
for you.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I just think that'll be totally fine. We're not going
to do anything that benefits us and doesn't benefit you.
Since you might be looking into the activities of our organization,
let's make sure that we can prevent you from checking
on all the stuff that we do. There's so many
versions of this, though, and so again, over the next
few months, I believe the conversation will constantly be almost

(29:32):
you know, resoundingly, on a daily basis b how radical
and crazy Trump is and the things he's doing, the
decisions he's making, the people he's putting in positions of power.
But let's say again, and I know this to be
true for most people on either side of the political aisle,
that you believe that the system in place that we
have a lot of you know, young far left voter

(29:57):
people believe this to be true. They hate America as
a country, which is odd, but they go beyond that
in hating so many unfair things about this country. Those
are things that Trump is actually trying to address, or
someone like a Trump would be trying to address in
going after the certain branches of the government that are

(30:17):
so full of bureaucracy and so uniformly unfair at this
point to the average American that they have to be
fought with strength, because again, every part of the snake
will fight back as you try to rip it apart.
And so that'll be the constant conversation for the next
few months and at the end of all of it,

(30:37):
whether it's a year or two years or more from here,
if the system actually gets dismantled at all, which is
something that's yet to be seen and something that you
hope happens, but you don't know for sure. Trump has
been in the White House before. I know that people
get mad when I say this on the other side
of the aisle, but it's true, and the deep state
wasn't dismantled, so this time, if it actually is something

(30:58):
that changes. If the unfair system. You don't have to
call it the deep state because people think that's all
crazy too, but the unfair system gets changed. Trump will also,
i think, be celebrated as a valuable president in the
history of our country because of something that no one
else truly did. Because once you get these roles, you
wind up getting sucked in to the system that's in

(31:21):
place in general. So we'll see what occurs. I don't
know what the next few months hold, but I know
that I'll constantly be told, no matter what is changing,
for better or for worse, that the President of the
United States is the most radical person that's ever been
in this office, even though he's been in there before.
And also, as you actually heard earlier in that audio
that I played, there might be attempts to remove him

(31:42):
from power because the hope is if they get him
out of the office, they can go after him in
the courts again because he wouldn't be able to run
for election again. So we'll see what happens. It's probably
going to be an interesting few years here with infighting
and insane you know, versions of this has to happen,
or that has to happen where The most obvious thing
will be the hypocrisy of it all, because so many

(32:04):
of the things that will occur are things that the
other side said were terrible when they heard them being
talked out, talked about about their own side. If anyone
said that they should impeach Biden, that was horrible. But
impeach Trump is something I'm sure we'll be talked about
very soon after January. All right, we'll take a break.
A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the
Chad Benson Show.

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Speaker 1 (33:39):
Welcome to jat ched. No, not the country, the institution,
the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins.
Filling in was just talking about the human washing machine
off air with producer Phil and he made an amazing
joke that I'm probably gonna steal here coming up, but
I'm crediting you now, Phil with it first. The human
washing machine is an invention in Japan. It cleans you
in fifteen minutes. You get into something that looks like
the cockpit of a airline. A fighter jet is what it says,

(34:10):
it fills with water and then tiny bubbles and all
other kinds of things that you usually see when you
throw your clothes to the machine wash you again. The
whole process takes about fifteen minutes, and then when it's
over and you pop out of the thing, you're supposed
to be real clean and also dry, because I guess
it does this. This is something that some of us
might say, probably happens right when you first show up

(34:31):
in prison. But now you can buy it and you
can have it in your own home, which seems just
great and amazing and also terrifying. I love that the
video that's up on social media of this shows a
dog trying it out, and that dog does not want
to be in there at all, even though the dog
is okay, you survive. It doesn't kill you in the
process of washing you for fifteen minutes. But it is

(34:52):
the kind of thing that is both being called luxury
and then also ridiculous. If I were to go over
to someone's house and they're like, ah, man, I just
got to jump in the human washing machine for a
few minutes, I would call the authorities. I'd have them
checked in do well some places where they might get
again washed a different way. But I love that. By
the way. One other thing that I'll talk about later

(35:12):
today is the death of the missiletoe. Apparently work parties
are going to ditch this Christmas tradition. I can't remember
a lot of workplaces having it to begin with. But
I'll talk more about a story claiming it's going away,
all right, That and so much more coming up, of course,
some of the more serious topics of the day as
I continue here Craig Collins filling in on the Chad

(35:32):
Benson Show. But seriously, I do need to ask that
question to anyone out there, the death of the missiletoe?
When was it at your work party? And how many
work parties was it at, And if it was there,
was it because someone, say, involved in planning said party
really really wanted to wind up under it with someone

(35:54):
else that they work with. This is just something I
didn't really experience a lot of. Granted I'm about forty,
so maybe it is something that happened a lot more
back in the day. But I feel like it's been
dead for a bit. The Telegraph claims that it's just
finally getting removed now. All that more coming up in
a bit. This is Craig Collins filling in during the
holidays on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Lots and lots
of stuff out there in the world to discuss. Let's
talk about de EI a little bit, shall we well,
CBS this morning, CBS Mornings, I should call it. Actually
they talked about it. Here's how they set up an
interview with the CEO of Walmart, who was talking about

(37:08):
going back on a lot of DEI decisions a oneint
eighty I think as a CBS actually referred to it.

Speaker 18 (37:14):
Here we got Walmart is a great American company and
the nation's largest retailer more than one point six million
American employees alone and annual global revenue of nearly six
hundred and fifty billion dollars. So I'm happy to say
we're joined now for an exclusive interview with John Ferner,
the president and CEO of Walmart US. John, thank you

(37:35):
very much for joining us. I want to get into
holiday shopping. I want to get into grocery prices. Got
to ask you off the top to talk about this
report I'm reading in today's Wall Street Journal about how
Walmart is pulling back on diversity, equity and inclusion programs
under pressure from a conservative activist. So a few of
the changes here, phasing out the term DEI, winding down

(37:57):
the Center for Racial Equity, no longer giving priority treatment
to suppliers based on race or gender diversity, and preventing
sellers from listing some transgender related or themed items on
the website.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So does that accurate? I'm gonna I'm going to stop
right there. That's the setup to the question that then
the CEO Walmart. CEO of Walmart answers John Ferner. What
I love about this is I think the lead is
supposed to be saying that some part of this might
be bad, like, oh, it's under the pressure of these
conservative groups that you're doing this. But did you hear

(38:32):
all the things he said that are going away. They're
going to get rid of choosing which distributors to use
based on their race, based on things other than who
has the best product and who has the best cost
for said product. Those sort of things are crazy. What
hiring decisions they'll make won't be based on race anymore.
These are good things. You don't want it based on race,

(38:52):
no matter who you are, because you personally, and again
I'm talking to everybody listening. You don't want to get
your job based on that. I'm imagining you don't. I
hope that you don't. You'd want to get your job
because you're going to be good at it, because it's
something that you deserve to be in a position of
no matter who you are. Again, no matter if you're white, black,
I don't care. I believe that most of us, almost

(39:14):
all of us, would want to on merit alone, succeed
in this society, not because someone gives us an unfair
leg up against anyone else. That's the discussion point. It's
never heard that way because people always assume that some
part of this is bad. But here's how the Walmart
CEO responded to that loaded question at the beginning of

(39:35):
his holiday interview. When you were expecting to talk about
prices and all those other things coming into Thanksgivings.

Speaker 19 (39:42):
We've been on a journey and we continue to be
on a journey, and what we're trying to do is
to ensure that every customer, every associate feels welcome here
to shop and to feel like they belong, and that
term belongs. We've been talking about belonging now for almost
two years. Early twenty twenty three, we started talking about
belong and we're going to continue to make the best

(40:02):
decisions we can that makes everyone, our customers, our associates
feel like this is an environment they can shop in
and thrive in.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, that's my answer to your question, sir. We're going
to do everything we can to make sure that people
are happy. That you know, jobs are given out fairly,
et cetera, et cetera. I'm not going to object to
any of the things you just described in your question
to me. I'm not going to tell you they're wrong.
I'm just going to say that we're striving to make
things fair and you know, enjoyable for all involved. Here's

(40:32):
the thing. In order to make somebody comfortable as a customer,
and I mean this, I guess as radically as it
might come out of my mouth, and I don't intend
it to sound this way. You just have to have
people that don't treat other people crappy. They don't have
to look like me if I walk into a store
and nobody looks like me, but everybody treats me real nice.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Guess what.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I'm not going to walk out of that store and
be like, darn it, I don't like it. I don't
like it because I didn't see anyone that looked like me.
That's not what I care about. That's not what you
care about. That's not what most of us care about
going in and out. If someone's rude inside a store,
if I say, hey, I need help finding something and
someone tells me to, you know, go find it myself,
that's going to be a bad customer experience. That's essentially

(41:15):
what he's saying there is. As long as we train
people to do the right thing in the right environment
and they're the best people for the job, darn it,
everyone will be happier. We don't need to have a
DEI part of our company hiring people based on standards
that shouldn't even be set out loud. If you are
actually doing that, like, that's the craziest part. And I'm

(41:35):
a broken record on this, and so I apologize for it,
but I can't help myself. Every time I talk about
anything in the world of diversity, equity, inclusion stuff, and
I'm a white guy. I'm almost forty years old, so
I don't know if you need that information, but I'll
volunteer it about myself. The thing that I can't get
over and I can never process how it makes sense,

(41:59):
is the desire for these organizations to get credit for
doing something a certain way. If you want more people
in your organization to look different than the people that
you currently have as your employees, you could go about
doing that, and you could go about doing that quietly.
I'm not advocating for it. I still think the best
person deserves the job, no matter who they are, no

(42:21):
matter what they look like. But the thing you should
never do, if you're going to go ahead and break
some laws and hire people based on things you shouldn't
hire them on, is talk about it. And everyone that
does this talks about it. The Democrats talk about it constantly.
When they make these decisions, they position themselves to be
questioned in the validity of their hiring practices by needing

(42:43):
the credit for what they're doing, by wanting to be
more popular, but essentially hoping the pr of something like
this is beneficial to them with the groups of people
who'd be upset with them for not hiring enough people
that look or behave a certain way, whatever it might
be that you're trying to go after. I just find
that so interesting that if the you know, quiet part

(43:06):
wasn't said out loud, a whole lot of us would
be objecting to this, but not be able to point
to something that proved it. And that's the part that
makes no sense to me. All right, Moving on, one
other thing that I saw out there that I thought
was well terrifying, if I'm being honest. The NATO Military
Chief in a conversation just the other day talked about

(43:27):
the more aggressive, offensive posture of NATO moving forward. And
it's interesting because most of what he says sounds as
though they're going to do something different. And then there's
one last sentence that I will play that's getting clipped
off of this piece of audio that's all over the place,
that makes it sound like they're actually not going to

(43:48):
do anything different. They're just going to say out loud
that they intend to. But it's very odd. But again,
the NATO Military chief talking about a change from being
a defensive alliance to one that as more offensive you
know planning, which is well scary.

Speaker 20 (44:07):
And I'm very happy that we had it and that
we have now changed this attitude from I mean, the
idea was we're defensive alliance, so we will only sit
and wait until we're attacked, and then when we're attacked,
we will be able to shoot down the arrows that
come to us.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
But that's the whole point of NATO. By the way, Yes,
that a whole bunch of companies are all aligned together,
attack one, you attack all, they all fight back. That
is a deterrent. This is what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 20 (44:36):
It's smarter not only did to do that, but also
to attack the archer that is in Russia if Russia
attacks us.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Okay, that's the last part that you don't hear everywhere.
To attack the archer that is in Russia if Russia
attacks us. So again, the exact same thing as before,
and the exact same position that NATO has had before,
but an attempted version of a threat to say that
we will be positioned to do something maybe quicker differently.
But a lot of people are playing this clip and

(45:06):
saying that it's proving that NATO is shifting to being
ready for war, prepping for a major conflict between NATO
and Russia. It is amazing. And I know that I've
said this before and I'll say it again, that we're
here right now at the tail end of any Democrats
run in office, because we were told back in twenty

(45:28):
sixteen that we'd quickly find ourselves in this place as
a world or as a country if Trump were in office,
and of course that didn't happen during his four years,
and then put Biden in office for four years, and
now we're on the precipice of a potential World War
three and one in which if Ukraine is forced, say
to negotiate a peace deal with Russia, we would avoid,

(45:52):
which would be something that would benefit a whole lot
of us, benefit the entire world. But as the NATO
military chief is trying to say, it seems as though
a whole lot of people within positions of power are
expecting the conflict to widen. And again, that's just something
that I can't get over the accuracy, the truth of

(46:12):
that statement and the way in which it came about
compared to what most of media told us would happen
and wouldn't happen depending on who was in charge. All Right,
one last thing to just touch on very quickly, obesity
drugs may be covered by Medicare and Medicaid. This is
under a proposal from our current president, meaning that people
could get there with GOVI or any of those things

(46:33):
like it from Medicare and Medicaid. What the standard would
be for where people would qualify for it and whatnot
would be difficult to figure out. I think for a while,
some doctors may prescribe it for people that probably don't
actually need it. There's a whole lot of people who
use these sort of things because they just want to
look better, not because they're actually in a position where

(46:53):
medically it's necessary. The biggest reaction I had to this
story is the position of the bidenminstration is once again
to spend a whole lot more money for the Trump administration,
they'd like to see a lot of things go away
when they get into power, but the Biden administration seems
to be trying to do everything it can to spend
as many taxpayer dollars as possible right before they get

(47:16):
out of power. And so we'll see what happens here.
We'll see if this is something that actually can get
through and actually become a factual thing. In our society,
but I am very worried about it. The legislation passed
twenty years ago prevents medicaid from covering weight loss drugs,
so that's where the change would be. And I just

(47:36):
think that right now, if you're looking at the impact
you've had as a administration on our economy and on
our country, and you're deciding to spend more money, you
just don't care about anything. You just hear, like, ask,
screw it. Who cares about it? It's the person who's
drunk at the bar and buying around when they have
no money in their pocket, and you're telling them you

(47:57):
should probably back off and go home. That's the administration,
and they're assuming this will be popular because of the
promise to let a whole lot of people lose weight.
But again, I think it's definitely something that will not
happen if the other administration gets in power before any
sort of voting on this. But all right, there's so
much more to talk about today, so much more coming

(48:17):
up on the show, and some silly stuff, I promise
as well, because darn it, it's the holidays and we
can't possibly do just serious because we'll all go crazy,
all right, Quick Break, a lot more Craig Collins filling
in on the Chad Benson Show.

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Speaker 2 (50:24):
filling in Thrilled to be with you. A viral video
out there shows a United Airlines passenger just going nuts
on an airline, which we see all the time, but
the fight was between him and his chair. Apparently, the
guy stands up, turns toward his chair and just starts
kicking it while holding himself up with the seats next

(50:47):
to him, which no passenger was in, which seemed good.
The craziest thing about this video the audio is not good,
or I'd play it for you. Nobody does anything for
a while. A dude is, you know, positioning himself to
just kick his chair repeatedly. I guess he doesn't think
it reclines far enough for something, and people are just like, wow,
that's a thing. I guess I'm gonna ignore that for

(51:08):
a bit, and he just keeps going and going. Flight
attendants walk by like I don't want to deal with
this right now, and then eventually the guy gets zip
tied and you prevented from continuing the behavior until cops
arrest him when he gets back to the place where
he's landing. I think it was in La from Austin
that the flight landed. But this is just nuts, and

(51:28):
it's viral all over the place, and apparently people are
so capable of just zoning things out right now that
they tried to ignore it for a while before stopping it.
That's one thing out there in the world that you
might check out that's pretty crazy. Another thing just quickly
that I like a survey came out of the least
popular food this Thanksgiving, and it's not the first time

(51:50):
this item has lost. But turkey is the thing we
hate the most. Thirty five percent of us say we
don't like it. So here's the thing. Let's get rid
of turkey on Thanksgiving. Let's do it, people, Let's barrel
into that world of having other mean items chicken steak.
I don't care what you do. I just go another
way and be happier about it. This seems to be

(52:11):
okay for everyone involved, but I love it. Stuffing is
number two. Those people are nuts, all right. Those are
just a couple things. A lot coming up, Greg Collins
filling in on the Chad Benson Show. Other things on
this list include ham thirty two percent of people said
that they hate that, sweet potatoes and yams twenty nine,
and cranberry sauce twenty nine as well. There's actually also

(52:32):
a story about the most expensive cranberry sauce. I think
it's in some sort of restaurant in New York and
it's like two hundred bucks for a little dollop of it.
I'm good. I don't need anything anywhere near that expensive.
And one more time, radical or not. I have no idea.
If this is the hottest take of the day, I'd
be fine with no turkey on Thanksgiving. It'd be absolutely

(52:53):
okay with me. Do chicken do? I mean if people
did steak, you can't do it. If you have a big,
giant partybably don't want to buy steak for that many people.
Who knows, maybe you got the budget for it, but
that'd be amazing. I actually would love a very intimate,
just you know, a very close friends and family version
of something where we all got our own delicious plate
of all the things you expect for Thanksgiving and then

(53:16):
a steak or something. But that's my idea. By the way,
there is one other topic out there that amused me
a lot. The television characters that you'd least like to
attend your Thanksgiving. All of them are bad guys. Hannibal
Lecter top of the list, Homelander from The Boys. Characters
from Sopranos, including The Mother and Sopranos were also high

(53:38):
on this list. I thought that was pretty funny. Coming
at at number four Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory.
So either people that might harm you, manipulate you, or
just annoy you, or all his list, Frank Gallagher at
number six from Shameless. Now, he'd be a lot of fun.
He'd be sauced up and saying crazy stuff. Early on,
he's invited to mine quick Break a lot more. Craig

(53:59):
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Speaker 2 (54:35):
stuff out there to talk about. X is more balanced
than ever. That's according to a poll that was actually
made public by several different organizations, including CNN. However, most
of the people on this panel News Night with Abby

(54:55):
Phillips unaware of that. Just one member, Scott Jennings. Are
you aware of it? This is some pretty funny audio.
I think Elon Musk even retweeted this now, so he's
put this out there in the ether two. But it's
all over the place. The argument about how terrible it
would be if Elon Musk bought MSNBC and changed it
from a far left leaning organization to one that was

(55:17):
more similar to the types of conversations than happen on X,
which are on both sides. It's very very easy to
find the accounts of people, especially if you go look
for them that are on the far left or on
the far right on X and see that they have
uncensored information that's there and available for you to read
and follow. If that's your so choosing that actually is

(55:39):
balanced to have both parts of the conversation as opposed
to just one half and call the other half hateful
or dangerous or what have you. But here we go.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Also, I heard what you're saying about X. I saw
a survey this week. It's now the most ideologically balancedtform.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Stop this too early.

Speaker 7 (55:57):
I just sat down the show. You cannot say that
what I find, we've reported it on this.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Nework it's not accurate.

Speaker 7 (56:07):
And you know it.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
Okay, you are, you make your say?

Speaker 8 (56:11):
Can I reframe it a different way? Because what the
site changed radically? Right, So whether you think the voices
it are it is somehow more balanced. Now, that's fine,
But no doubt must influence is profound, and that you
open it up and now you're there with his opinion
and he is now part of this administration here, So
does anyone else think that there should be this greater

(56:32):
concern about billionaires purchasing media companies.

Speaker 13 (56:36):
Would you be worried at Bill Gates controlled miss NBC, because.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Why would you be worried about any of that anyway?
You know what's so funny to me? I love that
that if someone on a certain other side of the
aisle is in control of something, we'd love it because
we agree with him. The truth, the very easy truth
in this discussion for everyone, and I think it's great,
is that you know, if Twitter or X or whatever
you want to call it is now truly more balanced

(57:05):
because positions on both sides can be heard. Why would
media be so afraid to put that on television too?
People don't even really go to television. MSNBC doesn't have
incredible ratings right now. Their operation is something that could
use a lifeline or a change. But I just love
how worried people are. And actually that discussion goes even
further where they call themselves journalists on CNN and even

(57:28):
make claims that they don't lie on television, which is
insane because they definitely do, and they know that they do.
Everyone both sides know that they lie on TV from
time to time, but nonetheless or maybe all the time, Nonetheless,
what I love more than anything else about that discussion
is that they don't even know what it would look like,
and they were mad to see the opinions of the
right actually not get censored once Twitter was taken over

(57:52):
by someone that said both. And certainly, if you follow
Elon Musk, you know what side of the aisle he's on.
But he's just a user on the platform. He doesn't
have the platform. Overwhelmingly, you know, push one side and
not the other side of a conversation. It's the intolerance
of some that really is remarkable to me, because mostly

(58:14):
the people who are actually intolerant in our society are
the ones that are yelling about how bad intolerance is,
the ones that are saying, you can't be intolerant anymore,
you have to accept everything and everyone. Those are usually
the people that don't even want to hear the opinion
that opposes them. Another thing that I love that's out there.
Trump's borders are Tom Holman, while the incoming borders are

(58:37):
is very willing to do whatever it takes to follow
any sort of policy that would deport people that are
legally here in this country. It's crazy. We have this
argument too, by the way. I'm trying to do this
as simplistically as I can. For a reason, people who
come into the country without the right to be here
are breaking the law, and choosing to deport them is

(59:00):
choosing to follow the law. It can be said that simply,
no matter how other people say it or what they think,
it means about you as a hateful, terrible person to
feel a certain way. But the mayor in Denver, Mayor Johnson,
says that he's going to block deportations. He's not going
to listen and borders. Our Tom Holman has a message
for him.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Well, well, look, me and the Denver mayor, we agree
on one thing. He's willing to go to jail. I'm
willing to put him in jail because there's a statue.
It's Title eight United States called thirteen twenty four Triple I,
and what it says is is a felony if you
knowingly harbor and concealed illegal and immigration authorities. Is also
a family to impede federal law enforcement officer. So if

(59:41):
you don't the help, that's fine, he can get the
hell all the way, but we're going to go do
the job. President Trump has a mandative for American people.
We got to secure this country, we got to save
American lives. And I find it shocking any mayor of
a city would say, President Trust's been clear, we want
a consentry on public safety threats and national security threats.
I find it hard to believe that any mayor or
the government would say they don't want public safety trust

(01:00:02):
remove from their neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I mean, yes, you want public safety threats to remove
from your neighborhood. But more important than anything else, you
want to reset a system that's already broken. And a
lot of Democrats will say that too, actually, that the
immigration system is broken and you need to change the
rules let more people legally get into the country. Well,
the way you get there is first you promise to
fix the broken part of the illegal version of immigration

(01:00:25):
that we have, not just let it flow unchecked. Then
go back and revisit some of the discussion points that
might be issues once you actually see the problems caused,
if any problems caused by following the laws there, It's
just amazing that that's the discussion at all. But I
love the very matter of fact. All right, he's willing
to go to jail. We're willing to put him in jail.

(01:00:45):
It shouldn't be that hard for anybody. Another thing I
saw out there that I thought was interesting. CNN is
discussing in this clip some of the data they're finding
about the amount of people who approve of the president's
the incumbent president or excuse me, the the a next president,
President Trump and his transition team, the president elect. I

(01:01:08):
love that it's much much higher than it was in
twenty sixteen. It shows a huge ideological change for a
whole lot of Americans. And I have some data on
that too that I want to share. But just listen
to this clip of how many more people say what's
going on is a good thing. The net approval rating
of Trump's transition compared to the last time he went
through this process.

Speaker 21 (01:01:29):
Or take a look here President Trump's transition net approval.
You go back to November at twenty sixteen. Look at this,
it was just a plus one point, just at plus
one point, that is well well well below the historical norm.
Look get where we are today, significantly higher, plus eighteen points,
at seventeen points higher on the presidential transition net approval rating.

(01:01:50):
The bottom line is this if eight years ago Americans
were lukewarm on Donald Trump at this particular point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
They're giving him much more of the.

Speaker 21 (01:01:57):
Benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
A lot more Americans are in love with this transition.

Speaker 21 (01:02:01):
This much more meets the historical norms where normally presidents
get that boost coming out of their victory. And what
we're seeing here is Donald Trump's presidential transition is getting
a thumbs up. And dare I say two thumbs up
from the American people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Two thumbs up from the American people. How painful do
you think it is for CNN to actually say that
out loud. Here's some of the data behind some of
the other things that have occurred in our country over
the last few years. If you look back to twenty twelve,
which a group recently did the amount of people that
voted say Democrat, that now vote Republican, and we can

(01:02:34):
do this by race a black people, it's a net
plus nineteen percent gain or shift from Democrat to Republican.
Still overwhelmingly Democratic voting in twenty twenty four from Black Americans,
but it went from ninety one percent to seventy two percent,
So a huge change in the amount of people who
voted Republican in that group Hispanic voters thirty nine percent

(01:02:56):
to ten percent, that's a twenty nine percent or point swing.
With Asian voters thirty five to eighteen that's a seventeen
percent swing. And then people who describe themselves as other
that doesn't mean white, it just means not black, Hispanic,
or Asian, but in ethnicity, it's plus seventeen percent for
Republicans from eighteen percent to one percent. And then if

(01:03:17):
you even look at like you know, other things, you
look at the education of people white non degree thirty
six percent approved of or voted for Republicans. That's plus
thirteen points a non white bachelor's degree, plus twenty one
toward Republicans. It just goes on and on. Every single

(01:03:38):
group as you go down the line has aired more
toward favoring Republicans as opposed to Democrats in the twenty
twenty four election compared to twenty twelve, compared to anything
we've seen in a recent memory. That is a mandate.
That is the American people asking for the policies of
one side to be the policies we try I now

(01:04:00):
because the policies of the other side have failed us.
They're not working. We're not happy with them, and so
to hear so many people go out there in mainstream
media places and say other things, say how terrible this
or that could be, or how awful this appointment is, etc. Etc.
Is just willingly continuing the mistakes that you made before

(01:04:22):
that made you incapable of predicting what would happen. I'm
proud of this. I'm going to brag for just a
quick second. I predicted the outcome of this election. I'm
not telling you this because you know I want to
convince you of something or anything else. There is a
podcast where you can check. But I did say that
I thought Trump would win in all of the swing states,
which did happen. And the reason why is because on

(01:04:43):
the ground, if you're talking to just people, there were
people who were overwhelmingly dissatisfied with the promises that were
made and the things that were failed or the things
that were not attempted. And then the negative that was
caused by the current administration, the democratic administration, which Biden
was supposed to be someone running toward the middle and

(01:05:05):
running to unite both sides and certainly not being actually
in power, probably impacted that and a lot of policies
were far left, but nonetheless, this is what you've been
told by the people who disagree with you, and so
the worst thing you can do, and I'm talking to
mainstream media or legacy media when I say this is

(01:05:25):
lock yourself in and go even harder in the paint
the other way, the way that you've gone so far,
and to get mad as if people just didn't understand
the message you were sharing. That's typically the thing you
hear from politicians right now is the left doesn't feel
like they were on the right platforms to be heard,
not that the message that they had was rejected, which
would be the much better thing for them to take

(01:05:47):
away from this and to say, in order to be
competitive moving forward, we need to find some version of
what we think that still accepts a lot of what
the American people have rejected in our current line of
discussion points, talking points, or whatever you want to call them.
It's just fascinating. But this data and even what you
heard about people approving of Trump's transition team and the

(01:06:08):
decisions he's making, the appointments to his cabinet, all of
that is flying in the face of what is continued
and probably constant for the next few years rhetoric about
how terrible it's all going. The American people are at
least showing a willingness to judge for themselves and to
not listen to the narrative you tell them, And so
mainstream media better start paying attention to how many people

(01:06:31):
are rejecting their ideology and needing more information before they
make a decision on anything. All right, Well, take a break.
A lot more coming up, including something very funny that
I heard from Bill Maher in which he was talking
to Steven A. Smith and said that there's jokes that
are now allowed that weren't allowed before when Biden was
in charge, but are allowed when Trump is in charge.

(01:06:52):
It's interesting you decide like I do, if that's actually
right or not. I'll play that audio and more coming
up in a bit. Craig Collins filling in on the
Chadbentson show.

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Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig
Collins filling in. I'm gonna save the Bill Maher audio
till after the next break, So that's coming up in
just a little bit. Bill is talking to Stephen A.
Smith about the jokes he's allowed to make now, the
jokes that he can't make or couldn't make before. Of
now the Trump selected, he feels more confident making them
without making as many of his side of the Isle Democrats.

(01:08:57):
I'm mad. That'll be in about ten fifteen minutes or so.
I'm gonna wait on it, though, because I want more
time to talk about it. Some other things out there
that I saw that I thought were interesting. Hardly Working
is the headline. A shocking eighty eight percent of gen
z says they can do their job with AI. With
artificial intelligence, they don't really need to do anything themselves,

(01:09:18):
whether it's social media related stuff or anything. So many
people are turning to all the different AI powered platforms
out there, much like they probably did in school, to
go ahead and get this work done. Here's the bad
part about this, and I'll say the thing you're probably
already thinking. Once the employer figures out how much you're

(01:09:39):
relying on AI to do stuff, and once they figure
out how to do it themselves, they won't need you anymore.
So it's not really a good move. I would assume
to be this good at using AI for this sort
of thing, because you're building the template and informing AI
on how to get better at the stuff that eventually
gets you no job at all. But chat ept negotiate

(01:10:00):
salaries for people. They've ditched traditional resumes, and they're doing
things like hire me videos on TikTok, all kinds of
stuff that they think is leading to a more beneficial
experience in the workplace, and then well, a much lazier
employee because the other thing, I think than happens, and
we've seen this time and again with the technology that
we have today, Over time we just get lazier. So

(01:10:23):
if AI can do eighty eight percent of your job
for you, and it does that job for say, you know,
several months at a time, eventually your work capability becomes
twelve percent of what it should be, and then eventually
again you're out of a gig. But I just can't
get over how proud people are of this, because it
feels like the sign of the end of days. But
darn it, I'll move on because it's just negative to

(01:10:45):
talk about. I saw this the rudest thing you can
do at Thanksgiving dinner a conversation a lot of people
are having. The number one thing at the table on
Thanksgiving is use your phone. I think a tremendous amount
of people are going to do this, but they say
that it's very rude. If you share a meal with family,
you should not have your phone anywhere near you. Some

(01:11:06):
families might even make that a rule to check the
phone before you sit down at the table. A good luck.
I feel like many many people will be doing something
that's phone related. Bringing uninvited guests is number two. Criticizing
the food is number three. I would think that's number one.
If I'm showing up to an event centered around food
itself and I say something negative about the food, even

(01:11:29):
the amount of time it takes to prepare the food,
which apparently is on this list, that feels like the
most ungrateful thing I could do, But for some reason
it checks in at number three. And then finally salting
the food before you at least taste it is something
that people say is rude, so at least go that road.
Of making sure that it's something that needs the extra
add on. I don't know. It depends on who cooked

(01:11:50):
the meal and how much of a I they have
to pay for attention to those things. But yeah, maybe
at least try the food first before you try to
change it at all. Seems like a good policy. But again,
not criticizing the food, to me, feels like it's got
to be number one. This is Craig Collins filling in
during the holidays on the Chad Benson Show, and I

(01:12:11):
do still think this is ridiculous. One of the other
things that I talked about a bit ago, the world's
most expensive cranberry sauce costs one hundred and ninety five
per dollop. It's infused with fancy port wine white truffles
decorated with edible gold leaf. The gold leaf always gets you, man.
I think I have a policy in life. I have
a few that I live by, and I think one

(01:12:32):
of them is that I never want to pay for
and consume edible gold leaf. I don't think that it's
going to be worth it. I'm just guessing. I know
hot take out there in the world, but I think
I can live by that for my entire life. I
don't want to pay one ninety five per dollup quick
break a lot more. Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
stuff out there to talk about. Let's do this first.
Actually this is a bit of an off to the
side kind of thing, but I can't get over it.
So this is some idiot on social media on I
think Twitter, or excuse me, no, I think it's probably
originally on TikTok, but I found it because it went

(01:13:43):
viral on X on Twitter. I'm saying he's a far
left guy. He thinks that whatever he would say during
the Trump inauguration would cause him to be given even
more power. He's delusional, is part of it. But the
amount of people that say that their plan is to
do an insurrection or I guess whatever the mainstream media

(01:14:04):
calls an insurrection. Because they don't bring weapons, they're unlikely
to overthrow the government as we know it, and I'm
not encouraging them to do differently than they did a
few years ago. I just think it's interesting. And of
course this is going to be back and forth with
that side that said how much they hated these sort
of disruption things. Are going to try it. But I
have to play a lot of this audio, not because

(01:14:26):
I like this guy or even want to give a
bigger platform to his crazy thoughts, but just because of
how delusional I think so many people out there become,
and how obsessed with their own opinion they become, and
how this in fact is probably the issue that causes
a lot of us not to be able to talk
to each other, whether it's during the holidays or elsewhere.
But here, I'll get to the audio.

Speaker 9 (01:14:48):
All right, So let's talk about what it is that
I actually mean to do on inauguration. They hate it,
so there's going to be a lot of people there,
a lot of people on his side and a lot
of people protesting on our side. I mean to meet
as many people as I can try to convince them
to work together.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Ah. Co competition and what are you doing, dude, works
the way that it's supposed to. Ah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:15:13):
I will be in front of that stage with people
chanting for me to be heard.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
People will be chanting for me to be heard because
I'll convince them all that the things I want to
say are important things that need to be heard. This
is delusion. This guy is delusional. He's going to creep
a lot of people out, even on his own side,
when he walks up to them and try to convince
them that he needs to speak. But in his mind,
the way he envisions the inauguration day to go is

(01:15:40):
he'll collect enough people that think that he can successfully
disrupt the confirmation of Trump as our next president, and
then he gets to speak in front of a stage
of people who wind up thrilled with the things he's saying.
It's amazing. I want to play more of it. Though
I'm not saying that everyone is quite this crazy or
this insane on a certain inside of the aisle, or

(01:16:01):
people you disagree with as adamantly as you do. But
it's just what I guess is occurring. And it's so
easy now in our society to go on say the
Internet or anywhere else and find all the information that
backs up whatever your position is on anything. It's called
confirmation bias. And I think that plus having a platform,

(01:16:22):
especially if that platform is bigger than you thought it
would be and for him. I don't know. It might
be a thousand followers when he expected fifty, It might
be twenty followers when he expected to. I don't know
how valuable this guy is, but again, it makes you
even more believe that the things you say and do
are somehow far more intelligent, better what have you than

(01:16:42):
anyone else. Here's a little more of this crazy guy.

Speaker 9 (01:16:45):
Either legion or let him speak whatever. I don't care,
get me on stage to speak before the president and
change the very fabric of humanstry. Future is in our hands, ah,
and I mean to take it, charge forward, grasp that

(01:17:11):
future with both hands, and rip it upon tea.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I'm gonna rip it apart. I don't like where we're going,
and I want to do something totally different. This is
as radical and is saying as anything that they accused
the other side of the aisle of believing or thinking.
But it's also just something again to me that I
think is the core part of the issue. If this
holiday season you wind up sitting across the table from
a family member that just wholeheartedly disagrees with everything you

(01:17:37):
think about the world of politics and doesn't even want
to be it said Thanksgiving meal because of that, and
there's a lot of young people on social media saying
they should boycott all kinds of things or do crazy stuff.
I wonder if what you could say before any discussion
about it now, granted you don't have to intend to
bring it up. They could bring it up. They could
be the one on the attack right at the beginning
of the meal or at the beginning of a sit down,

(01:18:00):
and you could say, here, I'm going to ask you
for one favor before we talk about any of this.
Just listen to my You don't have to agree with me.
At no point do you have to pretend as though
I've convinced you of something that I believe that you don't.
But just listen to my side of the argument and
my positions on these issues that you think are one
way and I think are a different way. Before you

(01:18:20):
yell and scream whatever you wanted me, just listen. I'll
listen to you, You listen to me, and when we're done,
we both accept that nothing might change. But at least
you don't have to be intolerant to the idea that
I have a different opinion than you, which is what
exists right now and what causes someone to think that
they're going to show up at inauguration, talk to a
bunch of other people around them who are protesting like them,

(01:18:42):
and force this one individual onto the stage where they
get to take power themselves. It's insane, all right. I
want to play this audio talking about a little bit.
This is Bill Maher. I have a couple of little clips.
He's sitting down with Stephen A. Smith. He's first talking
about the problem that Democrats are face, the things that happened, say,

(01:19:03):
during the last election, that caused it to be so
obviously one sided. Stephen A. Smith seems to agree with
him on this point. I'll play a little bit of
this audience, like.

Speaker 6 (01:19:11):
You know, of churs.

Speaker 23 (01:19:12):
They're all upset about Trump, as if their life is
going to change one now. Like you know, let me
tell you, for the last year, people am coming up
to me at the nicest restaurants in Hollywood because that's
the only place I go because I'm a ball er.

Speaker 10 (01:19:25):
You know this, sure you.

Speaker 23 (01:19:27):
So it's like, oh, Bill, what are we gonna do
if Trump wins? Like you know what you're gonna do,
go back and finish your nine hundred dollars dinner for
four people. That's what you're gonna do. Yes, and your
taxes are probably gonna go down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Like yes, you're probably gonna save money. You're probably gonna
have things go better for you over the next few years.
These elite people that Bill says he sees at these
fancy restaurants in Hollywood. I love that first sentiment that
you're a fear mongering over things that won't actually impact you,
because that's the other part of this discussion. And the
way you might have it at the Thanksgiving dinner when
you sit down is at some point you might ask

(01:20:02):
the person who's all bent up in rage on whatever
the issues are that they're talking about, is say, now,
for your own life, what do you think is going
to change for the next four years? For your own
human experience, what do you think will be different? Just
tell me that. Don't tell me about the things in
society that you think you're supposed to be fighting for

(01:20:23):
that this administration coming in will fight against, whether that's
true or not, which by and large it's usually not true.
But just tell me for you what you expect to
be the biggest challenge over the next few years, and
especially even in certain states, we're say, the law of
the land is actually run by said state and not
by Donald Trump. I'm specifically talking about abortion rights because

(01:20:44):
I imagine a lot of people might have that be
a discussion since Democrats so counted on that as the
one thing that would help them win the presidential election.
If you're sitting in a state like Illinois, which is
a state that I've lived in for a long time,
there's going to be no impact at whatsoever to Donald
Trump being in office on that issue. So again, just

(01:21:05):
I would say, what is the thing that's going to
change for you in your own life. Let's play a
little bit more of this though, because this is where
Bill Maher makes a joke about Stephen A. Smith yelling
at the television while watching Bill Maher's show, and essentially
I guess to some this is a racial joke, and
mar says he's not allowed to make this joke. At
least he wasn't allowed to make it until very recently.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
Just stay, I was planning on leaving.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Yeah, watching the watch.

Speaker 6 (01:21:33):
Awesome, just the watch. You could hackle it. Absolutely, you
can yell at the screen. I'll do it. I'll do it.
Trump's make that jo very rude.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Course, that's a very rude, very nasty joke that you
would yell at the screen because you're Steven A. Smith.
But now the Trump's present, I can When Biden was
in charge, I could make that joke. That was mar
asking h stephen A to stay till later this week
for the Friday Show in which mar is going to
go after Democrats, he said, and all the different positions
that made it an issue, made certain things a problem

(01:22:05):
for him or at least for Democrats, and winning the election.
I love so much of this because, again, I think
the biggest thing that probably a lot of people believe
and I wonder if this is true. I asked this
to you to answer on your own. I can pretend
I can hear you, but I can't. Is just being
told what the truth is when you think it's something else.

(01:22:26):
That might be the thing that most annoys many many
people today is turning on the television or going to
some sort of platform and reading something that you just
know to be a lie. That's actually something that I
thought it was interesting, and I referenced this the other day.
Joe Rogan recently said about Barack Obama. Joe Rogan, someone

(01:22:49):
who's celebrated by a lot of people on the conservative
side of the aisle for the discussions he'll have, the
guests he'll put on his podcast his relevance in society
in general. Has often said that he thought Obama was
the best president in the history of our country, but
recently took that back and said the reason why is
on the campaign trail for Kamala Harris. I could play
this audio, but I'll just tell you quickly, is because

(01:23:13):
Obama lied, and lied obviously about some of the things
that he would attack Trump about. I wonder if it's
that easy for so many Americans, if so many people said,
you know what, I didn't like how they told me
the economy was great when I felt like it wasn't,
or they told me this was great when I felt
like it wasn't, or that the open border policy wasn't
as big of an issue as it actually was. As
most Americans were struggling with some form some fallout. I

(01:23:37):
mean again, to go back to Illinois, the South side
of Chicago, overwhelmingly populated by Black Americans. They were ones
yelling at their politicians saying that this is unfair, that
this is bad, and these are people who usually vote
to a certain side of the political aisle, at least
that's what the data tells us. And they're saying that

(01:23:57):
the immigration system has broken and unfair, taking resources away
from their community, or resources that they've begged for for
a long time that are evaporating and being handed to
people that have no right to be here. You're seeing
these dynamic conversations in so many places, and I wonder
if it's that simple. I just don't want to be
lied to as arrogantly as you've lied before. Again. I

(01:24:19):
want you to at least attempt to tell me the
truth or pretend as though I know more of the
truth than you think I do when you tell me
whatever your opinion is. But I wonder if it's that easy.
I'm not sure. I'm guessing it might be because there's
so many places you can go now to find out
what's actually real information compared to what the information is
you're being told about. But all right, there's a lot

(01:24:40):
coming up in just a little bit of time left
on the show. This is Craig Collins filling in during
the holidays. Chad will be back after the holidays, of course,
on The Chad Benson Show. After this break, I'll tell
you a little bit more about some of the crazy
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It's Chad Benson.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig
Collins filling in. There's a viral post from a woman
that said she's canceling Thanksgiving because she can't tolerate sitting
across from family members. Before I tell you anything about that,
let's play some good news audio. I thought it'd be
more fun to start here. A man tracked down a
stranger who saved him from drowning fifty six years ago

(01:26:39):
because of the Internet, because of social media. This is
a pretty cool story. Here's a little bit of audio
of the two of them talking about meeting again so
many years after the fateful day in which one person
kept another person alive. A pretty cool thing to put
on the old resume.

Speaker 6 (01:26:53):
Well, arms and legs going.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
It was traumatic because I was afraid that what he
stopped moving, that's something terrible had happened.

Speaker 6 (01:27:02):
He let out a big blast of air.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
You know, it was a gift.

Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
Okay, had it not been for this guy, I'd be dead.
I wouldn't be here today. It was like we had
known each other without knowing each other. It was moving. Yeah,
it was really quite lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
That's awesome. They're about the same age. This happened when
the person who almost died was eighteen years old. He
was diving near the coast of Nova Scotia when somebody
found him. Brian is the guy who almost died, Michael
is the guy who saved his life, and they track
each other down and have a conversation fifty six years later.
Just a very very cool viral story. All right, Let's

(01:27:38):
get to the other thing. A woman went to social
media and said that her very extravagant, consistent Thanksgiving dinner,
in which she feeds a bunch of her family members
and you know, goes through every single thing that you
could possibly do, like as nice as possible. It's canceled.
The prospect of looking into the faces of family members

(01:27:58):
who are celebrating the election of a man who is
a convicted felon with a history of abusing women, mocking
people with disabilities, and defrauding the public in more ways
than I can count. Is devastating. No Thanksgiving for you
is what she put up on social media. I imagine
that a lot of people won't be so sad to
sit next to a person who feels and thinks those
things and can't put that aside to have a meal

(01:28:20):
with other people that you disagree with, that need to
protect yourself from the stuff that you don't believe is scary.
But nonetheless she's canceled the meal. A lot of people
had their own thoughts on social media about it. Good
luck to you out there and whoever you're sitting across
the table from over the next couple days. And if
you even want those discussions to come up and be

(01:28:41):
talked about, I imagine a whole lot of people would
just rather they not be talked about at all. But
all right, that's one of a bunch of things out
there in the world. I plan to talk about more
stuff in just a little bit. This is Craig Collins
filling in on the Chad Benson Show. And one of
those things that I plan to dive into a little
bit deeper later on is the waning interest we have

(01:29:03):
in pumpkin spice. I love that this is a data
point out there. Apparently it's only the fourth most popular
fall thing. This is losing to stuff like cinnamon. A
pumpkin pie is still the number one most popular Thanksgiving dessert,
although apple pie comes in a close second because candidly
it's a better pie. But I guess you got to

(01:29:25):
have a little bit of pumpkin pie and Thanksgiving. But
I love this. Younger adults also don't care so much
for the pumpkin spice and the pumpkin pie as much
as older adults do, just because it's a tradition thing.
I do think that these are the kind of things
that just are silly and more valuable or more fun
to talk about at the Thanksgiving table than some of

(01:29:46):
those other discussions might be with the family members who
are so mad they don't even want to be near you.
Pumpkin is most popular with women too, by the way,
especially in the West and the Midwest, it's much more
popular with older adults than gen zers, and so serve
different pies. Have a discussion about that, and also just
in general, try to enjoy the holidays. That's the whole

(01:30:07):
point of them. Oh and actually one other warning for you,
just real quick that I can get into more in
a little bit. I do not buy knockoff perfumes. There's
a reason why there's a study out there that looked
into the ingredients in the cheap version of the expensive stuff,
and especially Black Friday deals, and this stuff you don't
want in your perfume or in your clone. It's human

(01:30:28):
in nature and it's bad. I'll tell you what it
is and just a bit. Craig Collins filling in on
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Speaker 1 (01:31:05):

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
This is the Chad Benson Show. Chad is back after
the holidays. My name is Craig Collins, filling in for
the next couple days. Thrilled to be with you. Let's
play this. This just happened a little while ago this morning.
This was justin Trudeau. It happened earlier today, I should say,
the Canadian Prime Minister saying that he had a great
phone call with Donald Trump and he's willing to work

(01:31:31):
with him on all kinds of things, especially things that
involve border security. This one day after Trump threatened a
whole lot of tariffs on goods that come in from Mexico,
from Canada and from China. Canada wants to avoid that
twenty five percent tariff. I love that the threat of
something causes people to come to the table that would

(01:31:52):
refuse to come to the table if you don't have
the stones. That's the word I'm going to choose to
use to actually go ahead and make said threat. These
are the kind of things that make these or make
those decisions all the more meaningful. But here I'll let
you hear it from the horse's mouth from Trudeau himself, saying,
had a great call with Trump, looking forward to working
with him on some of these things.

Speaker 14 (01:32:14):
I had a good call with Donald Trump last night. Again,
we obviously talked about laying out the facts, talking about
how the intense and effective connections between our two countries
flow back and forth. We talked about some of the
challenges that we can work on together.

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
It was a good call.

Speaker 14 (01:32:35):
This is something that we can do laying out the
facts moving forward in constructive ways. This is a relationship
that we know takes a certain amount of working on
and that's what we'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Yeah, we'll actually work on it. We'll actually try to
not just rip off the American people as much as possible.
This is what Trump does in a lot of places.
This is what he does with the NATO alliance and
the amount of money that they were spending compared to us.
You name the situation, say the part out loud that says, hey,
this isn't going to be so easy for you to
take advantage of the United States and then have someone

(01:33:08):
else come to the table and say, hey, I'm willing
to work with them, I'm willing to find common ground.
This will be great. That is the end result of
something that a whole lot of media said was horrible
that happened yesterday when Trump put out the idea of
tariffs on goods from China. As I said, which will
probably happen Mexico and Canada. I think both Mexico and

(01:33:29):
Canada the position will be help us with this issue,
and maybe those won't be as bad as we're saying
they could be. We'll see. That is again just interesting.
I do love this. I can't get over this. So
CNN the other night is having a discussion about Elon
Musk buying MSNBC, and they're going back and forth, and
Scott Jennings is the only person on the panel who

(01:33:50):
will say stuff that no one else there believes, and
he quotes a source and gives some information about the
balance x of Twitter after Elon took over compared to before,
because everyone else on this panel is so terrified that
what will happen if Elon buys MSNBC is it'll become
a radical wing of the MAGA a Republican, which right

(01:34:13):
now it's a radical wing for the Democratic Party. So
I don't know how much worse it would be to
have it just change ideology instead of being in the middle.
But that's actually unlikely to happen if you look at
the data from Twitter. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Also, I heard what you're saying about x. I saw
a survey this week. It's now the most ideologically balanced platform.

Speaker 7 (01:34:33):
Stop it's too early.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
I just sat down here for.

Speaker 7 (01:34:38):
You cannot say that what I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
We've reported it on the stwork. All right, I'm gonna
stop it right there. Who's the source? Who's the source?
CNN is I'll play the audio, man, I brought the receipts.
This is CNN saying that Twitter is the most ideological
balance platform a couple days before. Jennings makes this claim
during that panel.

Speaker 21 (01:34:56):
So the reason, one of the big reasons he bought
Twitter slash x is so us he wanted to make
it his own platform, remak it in his own image.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
And I think this really gets at it.

Speaker 21 (01:35:05):
Look at this the party ID Among those who regularly
use x slash Twitter for news. Back in twenty twenty two,
sixty five percent of those who regularly use Twitter slash
X for news. We're democrats just thirty one percent were Republicans.
Looked at where we are today, just a completely different picture.
Now it's basically split between Democrats at forty eight percent
Republicans at forty seven percent. What I should note, mister

(01:35:27):
Berman is this, now, this new overall makeup matches the
overall electorate far better and more than that, more than that, John,
look at where mister Musk's net worth is today versus
where it was just two months ago. He is the
richest man in the world by far. Two months ago,
look at this, his net worth was two hundred and
fifty two billion. Look at where we are today, three

(01:35:49):
hundred and fourteen billion.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
He's doing pretty good. And X, as I said, is
a platform that now has forty eight percent, still one
percent more than Republicans. Of Democrats going on there looking
for news is sharing their opinion. It is actually balanced.
But back to the CNN poll where they are the
panel where they say that that sort of thing is
crazy and a lie and definitely not true.

Speaker 8 (01:36:09):
It's not accurate, and you know it, can I can
I reframe it a different way because the site changed
radically right. So whether you think the voices it are,
it is somehow more balanced. Now that's fine, but no
doubt Musk's influence is profound, and that you open it
up and now you're there with his opinion and he

(01:36:29):
is now part of this administration here. So does anyone
else think think?

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
I love that she's like and we're gonna move on.
We're gonna shut up Scott Jennings and the stuff he's
saying because we don't like it, and we're going to
move to other things. It's their own station that is
reporting that the ideology is now actually split in the middle,
and that's what people don't like. They don't like the belief.
And you know what's so amazing about this, I'll say
one other thing, and I feel like these are just

(01:36:54):
obvious takes before the holiday in a way that might
help people in your family come back to sanity, come
back into the middle, and have a discussion where you
might not agree, but you might accept that your position
isn't as a profoundly you know, common in our country.
I think the best thing that happened in the election,
I'll say this before I get to my other point,

(01:37:15):
is that Trump won the popular vote, and not because
I wanted Trump to win or lose, but because it
showed a lot of Americans that they weren't overwhelmingly in
the majority in their opinion by being anti Trump. If
Trump won the popular vote as lead, at least for
the people who showed up and punched a ballot in
this election, more people wanted him to be president than didn't.

(01:37:37):
That blows up one of those narratives that the you know,
majority of people think a certain way, and that Twitter
or whatever it is Facebook seemed to reflect that reality
to us just a few years ago. In our society,
most of these platforms still do that. The only one
that really doesn't is X is Twitter, and then maybe
a little bit. TikTok is actually more in the middle

(01:38:00):
than you might think it is, because for whatever reason,
Trump came out as someone that said that I wouldn't
want to get rid of TikTok as quickly as the
Democrats want to get rid of it. But I just
find all of this so important and so valuable to
at least say, no matter what you think, no matter
who you are, the amount of people who disagree with you,
you have to accept its significant and to go back

(01:38:20):
to what I was going to say a second ago.
Even if you look back to the twenty twenty election
and all the discussion points that can be had about
that election, the amount of votes for Trump were historically high.
It was more votes than any incumbent had ever seen
in the history of our country, and certainly more votes
than were given to Harris this election or anyone this
election actually. And so even if you believe that Trump

(01:38:44):
didn't lose or did lose, no matter what that is,
the amount of people who wanted him to be president
four years ago was high. A very basic thing to say,
and those seem to be the points that are so
difficult for people to accept who've seen the outcome of
the election just to couple weeks ago, all right, and
might be mad at your Thanksgiving table because of it.

(01:39:04):
One last thing I want to play. I do think
this is interesting. This was a discussion about how some
things need to change in our society and some things
need to be a little bit different than they are
right now, because a darn it, the world in which
we live is just crazy. It's the mother of Elon
Musk who's saying this about how media needs to change.

(01:39:25):
On Fox News. Here we go.

Speaker 25 (01:39:27):
Media has to change, and the politicians have to change
and stop being mean and nasty and dishonest, because, as
I say, they used to always.

Speaker 26 (01:39:37):
Hate on Elon for fifteen years, but I trusted them
with the other news where they hated the Republican Party,
they hated Fox News, and then I realized, no, they
are dishonest in all aspects.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
I love that She's like, you know, I knew when
they were saying bad stuff about my son that that
wasn't true, and I didn't agree with them on that,
but I trusted them on other information. And I've realized,
wait a minute, if they're going to lie about my kid,
maybe they're gonna lie about other things. That's a very
mom sensibility or mom mentality and everybody has to get nicer.
Is a nice sentiment. I don't know if it's realistic.

(01:40:12):
It might even be a little bit naive in the
world in which we live. But nonetheless, what I love
about it is the idea that if people just told
the truth, it might make all the other stuff less powerful.
To be honest, Trump going after whoever he goes after
and making up nicknames and saying the things he said
you wouldn't laugh as hard as some people laugh at that,

(01:40:34):
or be as mad about it as some other people are.
If these individuals were people that just told the truth
all the time, you know, and they weren't people that lied,
and you seemed like they were slimy and willing to
do whatever it takes to benefit themselves. When you make
fun of bullies, people laugh, And so I find that
pretty interesting that essentially the take is we have to
be different, we have to change our behavior, and in

(01:40:56):
doing so, we probably will do something that's much more
beneficial to the average American. But I do love this
may musk Elon's mom saying that she long understood the
lies of the media when it came to her kid,
but now she gets even more of them because Elon
took over Twitter, he took over x. It will be
one of the most important things that happened in our society,

(01:41:19):
whether you like the end result of it or not,
because it woke a lot of people up as to
how much of the country disagrees with them, or in fact,
maybe agrees with them, as I said a second ago.
More than anything else, it demonstrates and CNN's the one
that reported it Scott Jennings is the one that echoed
it and people got mad about it. But it's simply true.

(01:41:39):
The amount of people who think what you think are
about fifty percent of us, and the amount of people
who disagree with you, whoever you are, whatever you think
is about the other half of us, just about in
those numbers. And you might think that's totally different. And
who knows, maybe if polling was actually complete and asked
a bunch of people who rejected said polls might be

(01:42:00):
more swayed than that. But somewhere in there lies the truth,
and the truth is closer than you think, and so
it's just it's amazing. I guess I don't mean to
rant about this or keep repeating myself, but I will
say that it's tremendously likely mathematically that even if you're
happy to go to your Thanksgiving dinner because you think
everybody agrees with you, there's probably people in the room

(01:42:21):
who don't. I'm just saying that I'm not trying to
ruin Thanksgiving for anyone who's trying to stay in their
echo chamber. There's just a really good chance, based on numbers,
that everybody sitting there doesn't agree with the stuff you're
going to say about the last election. All right, quick break,
a lot more, Wow, a little bit more. Craig Collin's
filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

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This is the Chat Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you. Some other just
silly stuff out there, rapid fire stories. A man believed
to have drowned in Wisconsin admitted that he faked his
own death and eloped in another country in eastern Europe.
This is intense. I don't know how you go about
finding this out in the first place. He's a father

(01:44:21):
of three. His name is Ryan, He's forty four. He
disappeared after going to Green Lake for a kayaking trip
and then was a thought to be dead. He winds
up alive. I don't think you want to get back
with this guy if you're the lady that he faked
his own death to get away from or the family.
I think you might get mad. I think you might
have some discussions with said individual. He also might go

(01:44:41):
to jail, because that is in fact crime, some fraud
issues there. But there are people that said, hey, great news,
the dudes alive and well, including the Green Lake County
sheriff who remembers the story from months ago and how
bad it was. But the guy did plead guilty to
doing it. You know what, out of all the crimes,

(01:45:01):
all the things you could be accused of, faking your
own death and being found alive, you don't have an
avenue to claim that it's something else that people misunderstood you.
You could feign that, I guess you have amnesian you
don't remember anything. I don't know. There's not a lot
of paths out to being caught in that one. Another
story I saw that I'll just give out quickly. In

(01:45:24):
the UK, in I guess because of the BBC is
the one who reported on this. Because of something that
happened in Scotland and some people pushing for certain things
to hit the Supreme Court there, they're actually going to
try a case defining what a woman is legally. The
Gender Recognition Act that exists in the UK, which allowed

(01:45:46):
people to obtain a gender recognition certificate that said that
they aren't something that biologically they seem to be. Is
now something that will go to the Supreme Court in
the United Kingdom to discuss what gender actually is. And
this is my favorite part of this. It says, is
it the biology and chromosomes that someone is born with
or is it something else? You feel like it's option one,

(01:46:10):
but apparently some people might feel like it's option two.
I feel bad for anyone that's actually going to decide
in a court of law that that is not what
we think it is, that men and women aren't sexually
defined the way you'd assume them to be. And even
more so, whatever a lawyer is actually tasked with arguing
that it is, in fact how it should be seen.

(01:46:30):
The guy who's arguing for biology is going to feel
insane that he's in a courtroom arguing that in the
first place. But I feel bad for all involved. I'm
worried about that. I hope we don't see something like
that here in this country. Another quick couple things, Target
put out a bunch of brand new ads featuring a
model some guy named Brent Bailey who apparently is thought

(01:46:53):
of as hunky Saint Nick or attractive Santa Claus, so
much so that people are going online saying just how
attracted him they are. This is weird. I don't think
that we needed this. Target is proud of their quote
sexy makeover of Chris Kringle just in time for the
holiday season, and a whole lot of women seem to,

(01:47:14):
you know, agree that this is a great set of
head campaigns. Again, not something I ever needed to think
of as a child when you think about Santa a lot,
and then also not something I needed to be, you know,
focused on as an adult. But it is what it is.
It's out there in the world. If you're a fan
of sexy Santa, apparently Target is giving it to you
just in time for the holidays. And then one last one.

(01:47:35):
I do like this too. What does it take to
be financially successful or believe that you've made it? According
to the average American, having a savings or net worth
of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. However you get
there is a sign of success. Most millennials feel compared
to other generations, things only like fifty something percent of

(01:47:57):
millennials that they've hit financial success or they've made it
in their lives. A lot of other people believe that
they haven't and believe that it's a hard goal to reach.
I think that's interesting. I'm guessing that millennials feel this
way because they might be the people who've seen the
most increase in wealth, even if they haven't gotten to
this generic number. But nonetheless, that's another thing out there,

(01:48:17):
So hey feel good about that if you want to
what it takes to make it, and how many people
still feel that that's inevitably further away than they want
it to be, including even baby boomers. All Right, good
luck with your holiday meals, good luck in your holiday
you know plans, and I'll be back again tomorrow filling
in on this show. And Chad is back after the holidays.

(01:48:38):
Craig Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show. One
of the other things I thought was odd, just quickly
before we get out of here, the results of the
presidential election is something that made more Americans feel like
they will reach financially making it than people who didn't
like that. Forty six percent of people said that's going
to be a big part of their making it. In

(01:48:58):
the next few years, hey man, and good luck to
people on that few. Greig Collins filling in on the
Chad Benson Show.

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