Democrats Dodge a Debt Ceiling Deal

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig
Collins filling in. I'm gonna go ahead and preemptively thank
this guy who went viral on social media.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
His name is Pastor Wells.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
He decided for all Americans to reject Congress's attempt to
give himself a raise.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Some pretty funny audio. So let's start with this.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I say this on the behalf of the American people.
You did the Congress, your raise that you were fighting for,
that you try to pass this big omibus spending bill,
this one hundred billion dollar bill. Your pay raise, y'all,
thirty percent pay raise went to Ukraine. Y'all, thirty percent
pay raise have went to these wars. Y'all keep sending

(00:56):
over there. That's why we can't get a raise, right,
we could we an inflatient and everything is all jacked
up for us. And God, so y'all raise is in Ukraine.
If y'all want, y'all raise, stop sending money to Ukraine.
Balance the budget and then we'll talk about a raising
about four years, four years, another two years something that
you get big some stuff. But until the no raise.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
For you, all right? I love it. I love every
part of that.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We'll talk about some stuff because that is true. We're
we're the bosses, at least we're supposed to be. And
the most insane thing out there is that Congress can
give themselves a raise whenever they feel like it as
part of their own packages and then vote on it.
That's that's nuts, but that's a real thing that's out
there in the world. One of many reasons that we
might have a government shutdown is that a whole lot
of Americans were unhappy with the information that they were

(01:42):
given from Elon Musk, from Twitter, from x They started
calling their politicians and they realized that there is a
power dynamic that shifted at least a little bit. I
want to go ahead and focus on that for a second,
because there's a lot of talking heads, a lot of
social media and you know, mainstream media morons that are
so upset about this that power might be more with

(02:04):
the people than it's ever been before. And that's really
the way that I genuinely would say it. It's not
that Elon Musk himself wields a vast amount of influence
because he owns a social media platform and can go
on that media platform and talk much like people like
Trump or even Barack Obama. Not that I'm trying to
highlight him in that positive way for other reasons, but

(02:25):
he did a great job utilizing social media. When you
have the ability to get a lot of Americans to
hear your message, you wind up having more influence over
DC because we're actually the ones in control, or at
least we're supposed to be. And every politician is afraid
that they won't get reelected. That's the only thing that
fears them into action. But let's go ahead and do

(02:45):
this scares them in action. Let's play Adam Kinsinger audio.
Oh my god, what a terrible former politician he is.
We have some audio of some others. What Pee Goldberg
is going to make an appearance, But these are all
the people who've said negative things about Elon Musk in
the last forty eight hours.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Well, first off, I'd like to say, thank the Lord
God that I am not in Congress anymore. I know
this game. They always play this like Christmas deadline. Stupid game.
But look, President Musk this morning made it clear with
all his vast government experience, which is basically he became
rich on the federal government that he doesn't want Republicans
to pass this, and seemingly Vice President Trump kind of

(03:24):
backed him up then at that point. And what it
says about the politics is this is going to be
a messy four years, the whole debt ceiling thing. Donald
Trump is making it clear that he wants the debt
ceiling to go up. By the way, the debt ceiling
is going to have to go up, but he doesn't
want to have to take ownership for it because he
will again for four years, look at the Democrats and
blame them.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And so yeah, and that's exactly what the Democrats would
do if this happens under Trump's watch. By the way,
that's politics one to one. It doesn't matter, you know,
what we need or what has to occur in order
for things to continue to go the direction they're going.
It matters who's in charge to these politicians, so they
can blame someone else for it. Unfortunately, the debt ceiling
does have to go up if you have to keep

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funding things and you don't have a system in place
that's trying to root out all the corruption, all the
wasteful spending, all the things that exist in DC. However,
over the next four years. I hope that that becomes
the hallmark of this second Trump administration that they did
do good DOJE did do well in getting rid of
these these you know, wasteful spending decisions or you know,

(04:28):
bureaucratic systems, and again and again find ways to actually
save the American tax para money and not cost us more.
But I love the fact that even says that at
the end there and the reference to Donald Trump is
the vice president.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
There's more takes like that.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Here's what be Goldberg, Joy Behar making a joke about
how JD. Vance and Elon Musk want to kill Donald Trump.
I hate what about isms, even though I use them,
other people use them to win arguments. Essentially, it's comparing
one scenario to a hypothetical scenario where the roles or
people are reversed.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
A lot of people do this.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
This is one of the most ridiculous ones I think
I've seen where the what aboutism is so possible. Though,
if anyone were of too joked about someone wanting to
off Biden over the last four years because they want power.
By the way, according to Wall Street Journal, he didn't
have to do that. He wasn't in control even as
he wasn't getting attacked or hurt by anyone. He was
just listlessly kind of walking around the White House. Will

(05:28):
people made decisions for him. That's what that reporting said.
But nonetheless, if this joke were made in the reverse,
people like whoopee and Joy would be at the forefront
of saying how horrible this is and how everyone who's
responsible for it needs to go away forever. It's just
interesting to watch the hypocrisy get to a ridiculous level.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
But here it is who is in charge?

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Because I've been saying it for a while.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I've been saying that I think Elon must believes he's president.
I do, I call I called him vice president. I
called him president because I don't know what JD is doing.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
I hardly.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
I don't remember last time we even talked about JD.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I've seen him.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
He's been out, he's been doing stuff. He actually talked
to the press yesterday. Sounds like whoop he just isn't watching,
but go out.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
He's planning the president say when he go, they get
rid of Trump.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
So you think it's Musk It must vance possible. Hey,
you know who stay away from the stairways.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
See that's the kind of thing that again, and I
know it's a joke, and I don't want to overly
attack it the same way that the Democrats would, even
though it is a stupid joke, But nonetheless it's the
kind of thing that exactly would set them off and
have them talking about how much worse the people are.
Not just the politicians, but the voters are on one
side of the aisle because of what they do and
what they say, and then they do the same thing.

(06:49):
They're joking about Donald Trump, a man who actually survived
assassination attempts being killed by people that want to take
power from him within his administration or outside of his administration.
In Elon Musk for now again that that's that's insane
to me to a degree because of how much of
you know, getting on the soapbox all the time. Those

(07:10):
individuals essentially are as far as every tape people. One
last one, this is Jim Jamie Raskin also complaining, very
annoying person about Elon Musk.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
We had many weeks of negotiation with the Republicans. We
arrived at a bipartisan legislative compromise. The Senate Democrats, the
Senate Republicans, the House Democrats, the House Republicans.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Everybody agreed no, and then it.

Speaker 8 (07:35):
Was blown up by Elon Musk, who.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Apparently this did not happen.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
By the way, a select committee of just a very
few people came up with a lot of the core
aspects of any sort of agreement, that is, the wasteful,
ridiculous amounts of additional spending. This isn't every single politician
in a room the way Raskin is saying, these are
These are people in positions where they think they have
even more power. I think about it that way real quick.

(07:59):
With for these commits, for these organizations that make up
these these bills that inevitably get you know, passed within
our our judicial system, or excuse me, are a political system. First,
anyone who's currently a person in Congress or the Senate
has this ridiculous sense of authority, this ridiculous sense of
arrogance of power, of significance of importance, and they completely

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forget the idea that they're hired by us, that they're
supposed to work for us. The minute they get into power,
and the way the which in which our current system works.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
They you know, go rogue for two years, four years,
six years, and.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Then all of a sudden they come back and they go, now,
I'm going to do things right though this time, and
then they go rogue again.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
So the amount of you know.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Superiority that already exists for these individuals is off the charts.
But then he takes it a step further. He says,
we all agreed on this thing that people in these
small select committees agree on acting as though you know,
this decision was okay with everyone except Elon, and he's
the only one who hated it. And then the minute
that it goes away and Elon turns to the people
and says, hey, you do have a voice via my

(09:04):
social media platform in this they're all getting mad at him.
I'm not trying to pretend that, you know, governing via
Twitter or x is a good idea necessarily, And I'm
also not trying to pretend that there's an outstretched amount
of power that actually exists with the people of via
social media. But it's getting better. There is a way
for us to be heard differently as a as a

(09:26):
group as you know, the employer, and that's not bad.
The power dynamic is the biggest reason for all of
the bad things that happen, in my opinion, in our
society when it comes to the politicians, and they need
to be reminded of what the system was actually built
to be. The system was not built to be a
place in which the elites go to DC and do

(09:46):
stuff that benefits them for three four, as I said,
six years whatever, two and then they come back and
try to do it all over again. They need to
be reminded, and this is hopefully the best way to
do it, that you are not actually in charge, and
if you screw up, there are punishments for you, the
politicians of the world.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
You lose your job essentially.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
And I'll say this, and I feel like it's risky
to say, and I can't help it. And I think
I might have made the same point the other day
filling in for Chad.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Because there's so much about this I hate.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
And we have very little time actually before we'll take
a pause, so maybe I'll get back to this idea later.
All of those people who are celebrating the murder of
a CEO because they're unhappy with the healthcare system itself,
I horribly disagree with them. I think there's a lack
of humanity that exists there when you're celebrating someone shooting
someone else in the back and killing them, And it's

(10:39):
sort of insane that we even pretend that that argument
makes sense in some circles, or at least social media
does because of the anger with the healthcare system. But
people who want a system change because they think it's
inherently unfair are actually the same way, or there's thinking
in the same way to an extent, to a very
basic extent, as people who want the government system changed

(11:01):
because they think it's inherently unfair. The amount of people
right now in society, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican,
who believe that there's some system that's not benefiting you,
that's hurting you know, your family, your loved ones, yourself,
or society in general that needs to be overhauled is
pretty much all of us. What system that is and
what we do to fix said system is something that

(11:23):
I guess we all disagree on to an extent, But
nonetheless I find that intriguing that if you were to
sit down and talk to someone about the very basics
of this stuff, they'd say, yes, I want unfair systems
to be changed. I want them to be overhauled. I
want people that are corrupting them to be removed. That
is something that a lot of people agree with. And
the way you do that in DC is through stuff

(11:43):
like doge, stuff like challenging the every day you know,
and firing people who are doing it wrong. But all right,
I'll get into that more later. I think throughout the
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Because when you do what you do, what can you.

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Know how to do?

Speaker 12 (13:19):
What you just said is one of the most insanely
idiotic things I have ever heard.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
And then they passed us a baton, And the question
is what.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Will we do with the time we carry the baton?

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myself a joyful warrior. The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Thrilled to be with you Chat'll be back
just after the holidays. A few things out there first,
probably the most ador horrible kid you're gonna hear go
viral this holiday season as a little girl, she's in
a Christmas concert or school play. She decides that it's
her moment to shine. Even though it does not call

(14:11):
for her to take the microphone off the stand and
speak to the audience, she does it anyway, and again,
some of the stuff she says is why this clip
went so viral.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
But this is great.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
If I were the parents of this little girl, I'd
be proud of them, even though again she didn't have
the role of speaking and decided to go ahead and
do it anyway.

Speaker 13 (14:30):
I am very proud of myself and all those friends
inside my class. In my class is very sweet, except one.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Little They took the mic away from her right as
she said, I need to tell you about the one
little boy that is not sweet, even though everybody else is.
That's fantastic, But it's just the beginning of this audio
that I like the mo because when you're this little,
to have this level of self confidence, I think it's good.

(15:04):
I'm sure that as you get older, if you have
this level of self confidence, it might not be as good,
but it's got to be good.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Here.

Speaker 13 (15:10):
I am very proud of myself and friends inside my class.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I love that I'm very proud of myself.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I just want everybody to know, as all of you
parents seem to be gathered here, it's a message that
I wanted to share with everybody. Another story I saw
out there that was kind of interesting, to say the
least about it was a guy who was arrested for
stealing an Amazon truck. I guess it was parked on
the side of the road. The forty six year old
man in Miami, of course in Florida, walks up to it,

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sees it, jumps in, takes off. He gets arrested because
you can't do that, and he was pulled over with
a Good Vibes only shut on. I don't know if
that means that he thought he was going to get
off scott free. He's like, come on, man, I'm just
joy riding for fun here. Everybody leave me alone.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't know what kind of music he was blasting,
if it was something like this, I'm meeting them.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I assume that it was something like that, any sort
of feel the good, you know, versions of songs out there,
and maybe some drugs were involved. I don't think that
they were, at least reportedly, but you never know. But
Good ViBe's only guy not allowed to steal stuff that
is not something they're allowed to do.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
How good that he's learned that.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Lesson other things out there that I saw, I thought
these were kind of interesting and sillier topics too. If
you want to get somebody something last minute that's not
a gift card, the internet has you covered on what
that should be. A Number one on a list created
on Reddit was a digital product, like an online course.
I would not want anyone to buy me school, a

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streaming subscription, or even a video game, all of them
digital products. You can make the excuse that you know,
that's something you bought a while ago, although if you
forward them the email and they see it was purchased
that day on the way to the party, maybe they'll
have figured out what's going on. Also, an experience, whether
it's concert, it's football, game, vacation, something you do in
the future, something that you might not even actually have

(17:05):
paid for yet, but a promise you're making.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I don't hate that one.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I do think it's probably not something that has the
kind of punch you want it to have in the
moments when you're giving someone a gift, but probably has
that kind of punch later and then finally, cryptocurrency.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Is on this list of things to give people. That's
actually a great idea.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
You're going to be making a lot of money if
you're not buying the Hoctua coin and you're buying bitcoin instead.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
All right, quick break a lot more.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Craig go filling in on the Chad Benson Show, A.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Chad Benson Show, the Chad Benz Show.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about out there in the world. A
government shut down not as terrible of a thing as
they say it is.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
I'll keep saying that.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Out loud into a microphone, mostly because if they actually
do things better as far as excess spending goes, they
fix things, they don't continue to break stuff. And fixing
things is better than breaking stuff as far as I'm concerned,
as far as I've heard before. But darn it, that's
not something that everyone wants to talk about. So that
is the big topic of conversation in the world of politics.

(18:38):
Will the government shut down? Whose fault is it? Which
is also very stupid. Just quickly, I want to say
that I don't care whose fault it is, And actually
you shouldn't care whose fault it is.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Because the war isn't over. You know who's at fault.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
If the government doesn't function the way we want it to,
the war is over. Who doesn't want the government to
function in a way that benefits up who's actually standing
at the forefront of I don't care if it shuts
down or not. It better run this way the way
it's running the past, the way that benefits them and
not everyday American people. And you know how we fix that,

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how we overcome those people who have the goals of
the few and not the goals of the many in
charge or in their minds, even though they're serving us
in their role in Washington, d C. I think that's
a more important thing. I don't care if a Democrat
or a Republican as president. I don't care if a
Democrat or Republican is saying that it was you who
who you know, hit the gas on this problem we're facing.

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I care who's continuing to refuse the solution that matters more?
All right, other things out there. This is important to me,
or at least this is interesting to me. A House
Democrat was begging for budget allocations to be made so
that we can have crash test dummies that are female.
I know that a lot of people on her side

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of the political aisle still can't define for me what
a woman is, so I don't know what that means.
The crash jest dummy is supposed to look like, but
this is real audio out there in the world.

Speaker 14 (20:06):
You also plan to make important investments to address the
roadway safety crisis, including the critical funding that would accelerate
the development. And this is an area I've written to
you about of the use of female dummies and crash testing.
All right, this will start to fight the gender inequity
among vehicle safety and crash victims. This budget also builds

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upon and helps actual life.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Okay, that's a lot of money spending right there, So
I got to stop it there. And it's interesting to me.
They're like, now everything is wrong with how crash test
dummies are used right now because they look like dudes,
where they're genderless, I think, is what they actually are.
Which again I thought the Democrats were telling us all
of us are is that, But now apparently they can
at least make crash dummies into women. So that's a

(20:51):
step in the right direction. We're getting closer to agreeing
on what a woman is. Whether you've seen that video
or not seen that movie or not. I just find
that amazing. And I don't know how we've gotten to
the point we're in, but Tarnet, we're here, and these
are the discussions that they're actually having in places like DC.
And I honestly, I'll even say this because I tried

(21:12):
to look into it to see if there's any validity
whatsoever to say a dummy that's I don't know how
to say this safer on the radio. So this is
the way I'm going to do it, top heavy, if
that's going to be a thing that adjusts the way
in which, say, the airbag works.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Or anything else.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And as far as I could see, there's no impact
whatsoever on any of those things that make the safety
of people change because you make a well endowed dummy
out there in the world.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
But that's real, and that's what she's complaining about. All right,
let's do this. Let's talk about Prop thirty six in California.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
What I think is so interesting about this discussion is
how obvious, you know, holding shoplifters accountable for stealing stuff
is in California.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
For a while, they decided to go the other way
with that.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Then they passed a bill that allows them to charge
someone with a felony if they're stealing stuff often and
getting caught for doing it often. And this is something
they're very happy about in California.

Speaker 15 (22:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
It makes you wonder how it takes so long to
get to these simply rational decisions. But here's a little
bit of audio from KCRA three, which I imagine is
always on your side Channel three there talking about how
Prop thirty six is helping cops actually do their jobs
in California, a job they wanted to do but were

(22:31):
not being allowed to do because of really stupid policy.

Speaker 16 (22:34):
Chink for shoplifters showing up in stores alongside paying shoppers
buying gifts for the holidays.

Speaker 17 (22:40):
For the passage of Prop thirty six, we now have
the ability with two previous convictions, even if they're misdemeanor convictions,
to be able to charge someone with a felony regardless
of the dollar amount.

Speaker 16 (22:52):
Before Prop thirty six in place. Wednesday, suspects arrested for
stealing merchandise under nine hundred and fifty dollars only a misdemeanor,
and it didn't matter how many previous tickets they had.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Terrible policy, by the way, and this is where all
the smash and grab crimes started to happen, and you
started to see people walking out with what they were
trying to say was less than nine hundred and fifty
bucks because somehow it was a get out of jail
free card there. And now that's changed because California, or
at least the people in it, realized the inherent danger
of just letting stuff go that shouldn't be allowed to go,

(23:27):
and all the different ways in which it ruined. I
guess everyday life in parts of the country and in
parts of that.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
State, this is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's funny, though, to watch those reports, if I'm being honest,
And probably part of the reason it's amusing to me
is because I do not live in California. I think
I would find it far less amusing if I lived there.
But because you're like, yeah, duh when you're hearing them
talk about how happy they are that something like this
is now happening.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
All right.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Another story that I thought was really important, The Wall
Street Journal did a deep dive and how President Biden
has been not actually in charge at all, been a
diminished individual who's pushed in the corner essentially, and other
people making decisions for him for most of his presidency.
All the different ways in which even during campaigning you

(24:16):
notice that, say, the first Lady was making way more
stops than he was.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
What I love about this.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Right now, a whole lot of people in these same places,
a lot of Democrats, a lot of talking heads, are
screaming from the top of their lungs that Elon Musk
has outstretched influence over Donald Trump, that he's the one
who's really in charge and has an unelected official that's
terrible for us, Which does two things really really bad. First,

(24:44):
it obliterates the idea that Donald Trump is the person
that everyone, even the people who hate him, thinks he is.
He's not someone that takes a lot of advice from others.
He's someone that makes more decisions himself than anyone else.
I'm sure he fills the room with people that he
wants to hear from, but Donald Trump is not someone
that I think gets persuaded just because exact opposite of Biden,

(25:05):
Donald Trump does not make a lot of jokes about
how his wife or his staff tell him what to do.
That's something that Biden has been doing his entire presidency.
But even more than that is the idea that this
influence is somehow new because of Biden and because of
this report from the Wall Street Journal, and how significantly
he wasn't actually running the country and the people who were.

(25:27):
And I'll remind you of one other thing. Do you
remember when right after Hunter Biden first started to be
embroiled in new controversies, whether it was selling his artwork
for ridiculous amounts of money or finally actually facing charges
for the way in which he sold access to his
father in order to enrich off of the political career

(25:47):
of the then vice president, something that of course many
many people believe Joe Biden was all in favor of
and a part of.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
But nonetheless, as.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
All that's going on, he was standing in rooms in
DC having meetings with his dad and people that he
shouldn't be in the room with. That happened often, or
that the First Lady was sitting next to him in
some sort of briefing room for some sort of statewide
discussion that only the president is supposed to be hearing,
and he essentially said, well, hey, leave me alone. My family,

(26:19):
it's my kids, it's my wife. They're allowed to be
wherever I want him to be. They're not running the country,
I promise. Even though a lot of people would say
it made no sense for those things to occur, that
happened a lot. And then actually there's also this, and
I can't get over how much of a sort of
hypocritical moment this also feels like it is so Pete
Hegseeth is one of the people getting talked about a lot.

(26:42):
Donald Trump has nominated him for a role that many
people say he has absolutely no qualifications for. I don't
agree that he has no qualifications. I do agree that
he doesn't have the typical resume of someone that would
be in control of the Department of Defense. However, if
you're going to go after some of the you know,
brokenness of our system, you do want outsiders to be

(27:03):
at the forefront of those discussions because there'll be more willing,
I think, to tear down more of what's broken than
people who benefited from it for their entire career. So,
if you're putting someone in a position of power, who's
going to wind up seeing things from a different lens.
There can be a lot of good that comes from that.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
But what also.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Seems to be a thing, and this was demonstrated just
the other day. A spokesperson for Joe Biden's Department of
Defense didn't know how many troops we were sending to Syria,
something that they've told us a lot of times was
a little less than a thousand. Apparently is about two
thousand people. So the work being done by those actually
in charge of the Department of Defense, of Department of Defense,

(27:43):
excuse me, doesn't seem to be all that good anyway,
So how could somebody do worse? Even if that's somebody
is a political outsider?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
As you know, we have been briefing you regularly that
there are approximately nine hundred US troops deployed to Syria
in light of the situation in Syria and the significant interest,
we recently learned that those numbers were higher, and so
asked to look into it. I learned today that, in fact,
there are approximately two thousand US troops in Syria. Okay,

(28:15):
as I understand it, and as it was explained to me,
these additional forces are considered temporary rotational forces that deployed
to meet shifting mission requirements.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, okay, here's the thing that's amazing about that. A
spokesperson for Joe Biden's Department of Defense, who has been
telling the press that this is the amount of people
in a certain place, wasn't corrected on it till someone
thought to themselves, hey, wait a minute, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
And then you go in and you.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Look at it and you're like, okay, yeah, I've been
getting this wrong this entire time. The arrogance of that,
the separation of that. You remember when Lloyd Austin went
to the hospital and people were confused if he even
told Biden that he was there. That's a thing that
actually also happened. So how can someone political outsider or
not truly do that much worse than this level of

(29:00):
lack of discussion, lack of communication, or just all the
other things that become an issue here. I don't understand it.
I don't know if you understand it, but it certainly
seems broken to say the very least. All Right, that
is one of many topics we will get to throughout
the day. However, it is basically the holiday season.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I think most people, if you're working today or working
the early part of next week, let's just say that
some of your best work probably was.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Done before that.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm assuming, and so we'll try to have a lot
of fun today too, since we have a very slow season.
I usually have a slow season in the world of politics,
other than people being very mad at Elon Musk and
I guess to some extent, Donald Trump. So I promised
some sillier stuff about the holidays coming up in just
a bit. Craig Collins filling in. This is the Chad
Benson Show.

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Speaker 2 (31:34):
filling in, Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about. We beat the murder hornets, at
least apparently according to the Department of Agriculture, they have
been eradicated, although we're still making sure not to see them.
We're still keeping an eye out in case they pop
back up. Here's a little bit of an audio piece

(31:55):
I think from Fox News about this.

Speaker 19 (31:57):
Federal and state agriculture officials say the Northern giant hornet
has been successfully eradicated from Washington State and the entire US.
The insect is also known as the murder hornet or
Asian giant giant hornet. Officials made the deneration after three
years without confirmed detections of the invasive spiece.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Do you remember when that first came out, when people
started talking about the murder hornet, I think, right at
the tail end of COVID and they're like, yeah, this
is going to be bad too. Well, we beat them,
and I don't know, there's not parties in the streets.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
People aren't as happy as I guess.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
You'd expect them to be, because we all forgot that
was a thing.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
But hey, the murder hornets were no match for us,
and that's good news.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I guess other things out there that I saw, I
thought this was interesting. Seventy five percent of us will
celebrate the holidays by simply listening to Christmas music. Seventy
percent of us will actually also go out and look
for lights. Whether that's a community near you where you
know all the houses go above and beyond, whether that's

(32:57):
just in general driving around and looking for stuff. But
those are the two biggest ways that people celebrate Christmas
or celebrate the holiday. Just simply listening to music and
driving around looking for lights.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I love both of those.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
A lot of people will also go to the movie theater.
That was another one that landed on a lot of lists.
There are quite a few movies coming out, including Sonic
the Hedgehog three, which I know is going to be
a big family draw. I'll say one thing about it,
and I know I'm going to get judgment from people listening,
and that's okay. I haven't gone to the Sonic movies
in the movie theater because I'm almost a forty year

(33:31):
old man and I don't have any kids. But I
do remember the video games as a child, and so
every time one of them comes out, a part of me.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Is curious because there's a nostalgia factor to it. But
I don't go. I don't see them.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I may have seen one or two of them at
home when they come out on you know, digital, but
I can't go to I can't bring myself to go
to the theater to watch these movies with Jim Carrey
in it and a bunch of cartoon characters in a
you know, computer created world.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
But it is interesting that.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
There's been three of them and they seem successful, and
I wonder how many guys like me who grew up
on those video games are at least tempted to go.
But I can't even have that conversation with the misses.
I couldn't in good conscience ask her to take you know,
go with me, take me. It would be even a
worse way to say it to Sonic the Hedgehog three.
That's just not gonna happen. But that's one of a
few movies that are coming out this year. I might

(34:21):
seem overly critical of my inability to go. I don't
know how you feel about it, but it probably also
made me sound young to sum.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Out there, and I can't help it. Man nostalgias strong.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Gift giving etiquette was another thing that was debated on
social media, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. The
number one thing people said was inappropriate but seems to
be appropriate via you know, movies and whatnot, is giving
someone else a pet. Thirty eight percent of people said
that's utterly unacceptable to do during the holidays. I think
there's a caveat to that if I'm being honest with you,

(34:53):
because yeah, of course I don't want someone to give
me a gift that requires me to do a lot
of stuff for several years to a.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Living animal alive.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
If I don't want an animal and the responsibility of
an animal in my house. However, if I talk about
it constantly, if I'm always saying how I wish I
had a dog and I don't have one, and someone
gets me one for Christmas, that's an on me thing,
that's not on them thing. I convinced them this was
something I did want. If it's out of nowhere, If
all of a sudden someone gets you a pet and
you've never mentioned it before in your life, that seems wrong.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
If it's the opposite, I feel like you got to share.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Some of that blame. But that's just my opinion. Thirty
eight percent to totally unacceptable. I just wanted many things
in the list. This is Craig Collins filling in during
the holiday on the Chad Benson Show. Some of the
other things on this list that I thought were interesting
giving a second hand or used gift. Thirty four percent
said that's unacceptable. Depends on how used it is, baby,

(35:48):
It depends on if you're looking at it and you
can truly tell then not only has it been opened,
but it's seen a few uses.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I think that that's one that matters.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
And then finally, the most unacceptable thing people can do
is leave a price tag on a gift. However, sometimes
if you take it off, people can't return stuff, so
it's an either or in that world too.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Craig Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
filling in.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Thrilled to be with you.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
A bunch of stuff to talk about today, of course,
the Wall Street Journal report that broke yesterday, I think
yesterday afternoon one of the biggest things you've seen in
a while. However, not going to be talked about as
much as it should be talked about in all the
places that are going to hide this, but so much
covering up for Joe Biden and his mental decline from

(37:17):
day one according to people who worked with him, worked
with his administration. The Wall Street Journal does a deep
dive and you know out what was a long held,
badly held secret, even though they were very much adamant
about it, that Biden's brain wasn't all there, and we
saw it, and a lot of people who talked about
it and paid attention to him saw it from day

(37:38):
one and were ridiculed and said that you were making
it up or politically motivated in what you were discussing,
even though the man couldn't find his way off of.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
A stage that seemed bad.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Part of it is so amazing, in fact, that even
CNN seemed to admit last night that this was a
pretty damaging report about Biden and his administration. And then,
of course, the guy on CNN who goes viral often
for having the contrarian opinion out of their platform, Scott Jennings,
went viral for saying exactly this.

Speaker 15 (38:07):
It is the biggest scandal in America. And the level
and volume of people who dedicated themselves to lying to
everyone at home about this man's condition for four straight
years up through this summer is breathtaking. It's a scandal
of epic proportions, And it's a fair question to ask

(38:31):
who is running the country, who has been running the country.
And as I said earlier, if you're worried about Donald
Trump's advisors having influence for the last four years, apparently
this president duly elected. But this president was not capable
of fulfilling the duties of the office, and his staff
and the White House lied about it and kept it

(38:52):
from the American people.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
And why did they do that? Actually is a good
question too. Why was it in the best interest of
all involved? And this is an obvious question, and I'm
asking it knowing that we can probably all come up
with the same answer on this sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
But it's because they all.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Wanted to wield that power that Joe Biden had been
a given via being the president over the last four years.
People like his son, people like his wife, people like
I don't know, the Obama's is someone that often get
talked about. And honestly, I'll say one other thing, and
I don't know how many people believe that this could
even be possible. It's almost illogical to say that it's

(39:31):
a thing that could have happened. But all of the
stuff with Hunter Biden and all of the claims from
DC that Joe Biden didn't know about it, and I
said this back when that was the defense. That's more
embarrassing than him being in on all of the corruption
is that his son could fly with him on Air
Force two when he's the vice president, make a deal
with a country or a representative for a country in

(39:53):
somewhere like China, get his dad on the phone, as
some of the discussions of that story were that he'd
Hall on speakerphone while around his business friends as he
was selling access to his dad, And at no point
did Joe Biden the person, really understand what was going on.
That is the narrative they wanted you to believe as
all those controversies happened, And that's the narrative that we

(40:16):
now do believe occurred over the last four years as
Joe Biden was president in name only according to the
Wall Street Journal, not exactly a bias to the right platform.
But all of this, again to me, just screams how
ridiculous it is to say the same about Donald Trump.
And I don't mean that trying to win an argument
or be a Trump fanboy. And I'll say this until

(40:38):
I'm blue in the face. The one thing that everyone
knows about Trump, whether you're a huge fan of his
or you hate him with every fiber of your being
and you suffer from Trump derangement syndrome, is that he
values his opinion more than anyone else's. He's not going
to be persuaded by those like Elon Musk and surrender
power that he's given as the president. He doesn't really

(41:00):
do that in any sense of the word. And so
I think that would be a very telling moment that
Trump's not the same guy mentally, which hasn't really occurred,
even though they tell us it has, because once you
surrender power, you probably don't even get it back. But
Trump is someone for his entire life that seems like
he's valued his opinion far more than anyone else's in

(41:21):
the room, for better or for worse. I'm not necessarily
saying that's always a great thing, but nonetheless it's certainly
aspect one about the individual. And so it just seems
so ridiculous to even again be having some of these
conversations the way that they're going down, because it's just
it's so purposefully disingenuous that it should infuriate you.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
But more important than that.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Again, to go back to the question that Scott Jennings
is asking, who was in charge, what was happening, what's
happening now right now in this moment as Biden is
still in fact in the White House for another however,
many days telling people what they're supposed to do, not
supposed to do, or are not actually doing that himself,
and why wouldn't we remove him from power even now?

(42:06):
And that's something they were talking about with Kamala Harris's
presidency or her attempted Thank god, she's not actually going
to be the president, because if you remove Biden, you
give that hollow win to a politician to get to
say that she's the first female president ever. And so
then you stop running to break a barrier. I guess
in the future when you run another political candidate and

(42:26):
tell you to vote for them based on their sex,
based on you know anything about them other than their policies.
And I imagine that's the biggest reason that many on
the political side of the aisle that Biden's on.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Would refuse to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
They would refuse to impeach Biden because they can't run
someone later telling you we need to break down a barrier,
and it would be a very ridiculous, you know, barrier
to break. I'm not saying President Harris for however many
days again she'd be in office. Not many would be
a good thing at all. It'd probably be terrible. But
it's just so interesting. There's nothing the Democrats can do

(43:00):
because of how they planned to run races in the future,
and how they've tried twice now to run races outside
of the one time that Biden was someone they couldn't
shove in a closet. When they run Clinton or they
run Harris and try to tell you to vote for
her because she's a woman, which is a terrible reason
to vote for anyone based on anything about them other
than their ideas.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I want to play this audio. I think this is
pretty awesome.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
This is Senator Mike Lee popping up on Fox News
and advocating for a couple things. The failure to pass
a spending bill is going to hurt the Speaker of
the House, Speaker Johnson a lot in two ways. One
because the first deal that wound up being attacked by
Elon and Trump and many Republican politicians looked real bad,

(43:48):
especially as you started to uncover the pork that was
allowed in it, and then second the failure to be
able to pass the other bill as Republicans turned against
it and said no to it further demonstrates a lack
of control role that the Speaker of the House should
have on his own political side. So, Mike Johnson's days
I think are numbered according to a lot of people,
and Mike Lee seems to think that he has a

(44:09):
much better candidate in mind that I think would be
tremendously interesting.

Speaker 18 (44:14):
Have access to X, they have access to waters world,
they have access to information and to apps that will
help them quickly digest this information.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
This does not work.

Speaker 18 (44:23):
It's an historic moment. It's fallen apart and as a result,
somebody's going to have to lose their job over this.
I don't think the speaker is going to remain in power.
That's my prediction. I'm not in the House if I'm
correct in that, and I think I am. We need
bold new leadership outside leadership, and I think it needs
to be a dog speaker. It needs to be either

(44:44):
for vic Ramaswami or it needs to be Elon Musk.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Well.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Now he goes on to say that Elon's probably busy
with all the companies that he's running, so if you
nominated him for Speaker of the House, it wouldn't go
so well.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
So I viviak Ramaswami is the better option there.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I love this idea and I've continued to love the
idea when people throw out that guy who's not actually
in Congress should be the speaker, or this person should
be the speaker, because I think it does transform the
way in which the politicians themselves even do their job.
Case in point is the fact that this time of
year now, we have consistently been talking about a giant

(45:18):
budget bill that has to be passed, where it's fifteen
hundred plus pages, all dropped on people's desks right before
they go on Christmas vacation in a way where they're
not even supposed to read all of it, but they're
supposed to sign it. We've seen that year in and
year out now, and then the whole threat of shutting
down the government is the thing they use to blame
people for being terrible. How dare you do this or

(45:40):
that right before the holidays, which is going to impact
all of us negatively, regardless of how true it is.
That a government shut down would hurt all of us
as much as they say it would. This is, you know,
the latest version of political theater one oh one happening
in a way that benefits them and not us. They're
a new speaker, a speaker who's outside of that world.

(46:03):
Maybe they actually say no to more stuff, especially like
the raise thing.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Just think about that.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
If a Vek or Elon or anyone else, or the
Speaker of the House, and in any kind of bill
that's you know, brought before them, it says that Congress
gets a raise. I imagine the things they'd say about it,
or the way that they'd highlight the ridiculous of it
would be something we never get from DC currently, And
that would be awesome. I would be thrilled to hear

(46:28):
someone actually be given a position of power and wield
it away. That's so different than what you see today. Because,
to be candid, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson
has now demonstrated a lack of willingness to stand with
his side of the aisle, a stand with the people
who elected individuals like Trump and is willing to play
games and you know, make deals and do things that

(46:51):
don't actually help us because he's part of the same system.
And I know you can bring anybody in by the way,
you can find a way to benefit Elon or benefit
anyone who's the speaker. But it would just be nice
to see and hear, in my opinion, an attempt at
fixing the problem by putting these people in positions of power.
It would actually be great, and who knows, I doubt

(47:11):
it'll happen. I would be interesting to see to see
it be something that they even attempt to do, mostly
because of how hard it was for them to pick
a speaker before. And again I'll say something about that
that I've said in the past that wasn't as bad
as people told you it was. When it took Republicans
a long time to land on who the speaker was
even going to be, when there were votes that didn't

(47:31):
work out. It echoed back to an early part of
our country when you'd see that happen a lot, when
debates were very different, when you didn't have everyone trying
to hive mind think on a certain side of the
political aisle to sort of corrupt our system, but you
actually had real debate, real discussion, and inevitably a bunch
of failed attempts at speaker until somebody got it. That

(47:52):
wasn't bad. That was good to see that change in
our society, regardless of what the reason was for it.
And so I think more of that would also potentially
be very good or awesome. And so we'd probably see
more of that. And that's I assume the biggest reason
why so many people in DC would be terrified of
a brand new speaker process because they think it's embarrassing.
At least some of them do, but I definitely don't.

(48:14):
And again, I'm advocating for the idea of Vake Ramaswami
specifically being the Speaker of the House and saying stuff
the way he does now, because it'd be so different
than what we actually get. All Right, we're gonna take
a break. After the break, we're going to talk about
some things that are not as serious, like the most
dangerous day to drive during the holidays. This is Craig
Collins filling in for Chad Benson on the Chad Benson Show.

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It's Chadbenson.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
This is the Chadbenson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about. Santa Claus performed some marriages over
the weekend. I guess this happened mostly in Oklahoma. A
guy dressed as Santa performed fourteen weddings, which is very nice.
Santa and the couples were talking about their big day

(50:16):
and how.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Enjoyable that was.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I'm glad that this was on purpose, by the way,
because it'd be very odd if someone showed up to
perform your wedding dressed as Santa and you had not
expected it, like if they went rogue with their Halloween slash.
I guess Christmas costume at this time of year, but
this was a planned for which means no one gets
checked into a mental institute.

Speaker 21 (50:36):
By the power vested in me and the magic of Christmas,
and of course the state of Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I now pronounce you married. You may kiss your spouse
under well cours Missileton.

Speaker 21 (50:47):
Time does get a little tight this time of the year,
but luckily with a lot of help for missus. Clause
and a lot of good helper elves were able to
make things happen up there.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Kidding to meet Santah like all the way from the
North Pole. Yeah yeah, get to married with the big
boss man.

Speaker 21 (51:02):
You know what the best thing is about getting married
at Christmas time? It's really no way you could forget
to get an anniversary gift.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
It is true, you're going to get to get two
for one if you get married this close to Christmas.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I assume that you can just wait. I don't know,
maybe not, depending on who the missus is.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
I love that there were Santa jokes in here too,
by the way, that feels like the one thing that
you're going to have to do a few minutes of
Santa stand up comedy. But Santa married people. That was
a real thing that happened in the world. One other
quick one and I just thought this was interesting. Chat
GPT has launched a one eight hundred number. I'm not
going to give it out on the air, But if

(51:36):
you want to talk to AI and you can't get
on the computer and you do stuff the traditional way,
you can just call them and have a conversation with
artificial intelligence. The world as we know it is going
to be screwed people. This seems bad. I know some
people think this is good, but it can't possibly be
and we're only barreling toward a worse and worse future.

(51:57):
And I keep making this joke and I keep assuming
that it's not going to be true, but eventually it
will be. Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to have to travel
in time and save us all from himself as the
AI version of him, a Terminator to Judgment Day is
going to happen. And I just hope I'm on the
right side of that discussion, but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
But anyway, chat GPT for reel has a what eight
hundred number you probably shouldn't use. This is Craig Collins
filling in on the Chad Benson Show. And I know
what they're saying about this too, is that it's like
chat GPT for grandma or for Grandpa, meaning the people
who are least skilled on the Internet. Just I guess
if you're trying to be a jerk about things, I

(52:36):
don't think that's true anymore, you know, to be honest,
and I'll just say this from my own experience, my
own perspective, If you have someone in your life who's
of grandma or grandpa age. If you have your own
grandparents still alive, awesome, or if you have someone else
a friend of yours. Even now, because I'm about to
be forty and there are people i know who are
just a few years older than me. People within you know,

(52:58):
even my family like my sister in law, who are
now effectively grandparents, and their people in their early fifties
at oldest late forties. Sometimes that is not necessarily the
person you picture when you think, oh chat GPT can't
be figured out by grandma and grandpa. It's just hilarious.
There's so much that's changed in this world in general.

(53:19):
I think the point of this segment is I just
feel old now. They get to talk to my friends,
and they get to talk about their grandchildren. It makes
you just feel different about the world than when you live.
But darn it happens to all of us. One other thing,
just quickly. The most dangerous day to drive this year,
if you're planning on traveling for the holidays, will be Monday,
December twenty third. That's the day where the most people

(53:40):
will be out and there will be a ton of
distracted driving So if you can make your way to
wherever you're going today, tomorrow, over the weekend, do it,
is what they're telling you, the experts, because it'll be
a little less crowded, a little less crazy, and hopefully
a little less distracted. But this is Craig Collins filling
it more. Coming up in a bit on the Chad
Benson Show.

Speaker 6 (54:12):

Speaker 1 (54:32):

Speaker 2 (54:36):
filling in, thrilled to be with you.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
A bunch of stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
The National Review has blasted Elon Musk for melding in meddling,
excuse me, in the government shutdown fight. This is an
ongoing conversation for a whole lot of people how terrible
Elon Musk is for anything he said on social media,
on Twitter an x, which is what he calls the platform.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Now I still call.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
It Twitter the thing that I can't get over and
I don't want to keep doing, you know, constant conversation
about this, but it is the biggest thing everyone is
talking about out there in talking head media.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
But it's it's not.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Elon alone who wields this influence. It's Elon's social media platform,
which has people that are part of it, people who
then will call their politicians and say, hey, I don't
think you deserve a raise. That's not something I want
to give you. So power back to the people is
in some way. I don't think I can make that
argument one hundred percent with a straight face, but at

(55:39):
least a little bit in some way actually occurring now
because the guy in charge of X in Twitter, who's
also the richest man in the world essentially is someone
who you know, also is willing to ask people on
said platform what they think and then advocate for it
directly with.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Donald Trump, who's willing to listen.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Although Donald Trump is not going to surrender power to
anyone other than him, which is an insane thing that
people are talking about.

Speaker 22 (56:04):
All right.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Another story out there, of course, over the last twenty
four hours has been the accused murderer of the United
Healthcare CEO. I try not to say his name. I
know everyone knows his name and says his name all
the time, but I try to do that with lesser
profile cases. So I'm going to keep doing the same

(56:24):
thing here for this individual. But he was transported to
New York City where Mayor Eric Adams escorted him by
Carr to jail, and he will be tried for the
murder of a CEO and all the different things they
found as far as proof goes, the three D printed gun,

(56:45):
a manifesto, et cetera, et cetera. And the thing that's
been talked about a lot in this discussion or this
story has been the shocking response the amount of people
who seem okay with this because they're mad at the
healthcare system itself, or mad at the greediness in a
part of our society, or whatever you.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Want to call it.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
And I can't help wanting to keep make this argument,
and I want to preface it if anybody uses any
of this out of context, to make sure you understand
I'm not saying what people might try to claim. I
am saying, which is this does not make sense. This
is not okay. The senseless, cowardly shooting in the back
killing of someone is not something that I advocate for

(57:27):
or want to see more of in our society. And
the people who are defending this person or talking about
them as some sort of folk hero or even like
an attractive guy, are crazy. I think they're insane. The
thing I do want to discuss, though, is the mentality
it would take to believe that something is so broken,
so unfair, which I think our healthcare system, admittedly even

(57:49):
the United Healthcare people themselves would say is unfair, but
it's so unfair that you want to see someone pay
the price for it and see the system change that.
I think that way of thinking also exists for those
who want the government to be upended.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
And I'm not again calling for violence. I don't want
anyone to say that I am.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
But people who want to see Elon Musk and Vivek
Ramaswami succeed in what we think of their marching orders
are those marching orders are defined corruption, find waste, find
you know, things that essentially use taxpayer dollars for the
benefits of the few in elite in government and the
lack of benefit to everyone else. It's the same basic desire,

(58:32):
the same basic goal. How we get there? The steps
we take to fix the things that are broken are
where we most profoundly at times disagree. But the fact
that we all want the things that are on fair
in life on both sides, the right, in the left,
the middle wherever you are to change.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
That is good. I think that that is inherently good.
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Scary some of the ways that it gets repositioned or
changed or sort of you know, insane in the discussion
about it. However, I will say one other thing, and
I say this with every grain of salt I can
possibly imagine saying it with. I understand when our country
was founded and things like the Second Amendment were created,
it was based on the idea that if a system

(59:15):
ever got unfair enough that it resembled the system that
we thought was unfair enough to revolt against it. Back
in those days, when the American Revolution happens against England,
that the people would have the ability, via weapons and whatnot,
to revolt. I understand that, and I have a bunch
of friends who believe wholeheartedly in the Second Amendment for

(59:35):
that reason, even though the dynamics of warfare have profoundly
changed over the last however many years. And I don't
think this is a representation of that what happens when
a person shoots a CEO in the back. But I
do understand that even someone who's listening to this and
is so extreme in their position that they think violence
is the only answer.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Well, you now agree.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
With the people who rioted and protested and looted during
the George Floyd protests of that summer where they burn
stuff down and didn't get in trouble for it. And
that is not the way that a society moves forward
effectively in my opinion, especially in the day and age
in which we live. But the systems that are broken
do need to feel as though they have to answer

(01:00:19):
to that in a different way, in a way in
which we can stand up collectively as a group and
demand that change. And that is happening in politics. It
is I think that Donald Trump getting re elected. I
know this is a long rant. I can't help myself.
I'm here now, we're doing this thing just before the holidays.
I think Donald Trump getting reelected was a wake up call,

(01:00:42):
more so than in twenty sixteen, to a lot of
politicians that they can't force the American people to think
what they want the American people to think. Politicians realize
that their control of our reality is less than they
desire it to be. Regardless of if you liked or
you hate Trump, you can be someone who has Trump

(01:01:02):
arrangement syndrome, or someone who's you know, the biggest fanboy
and bought the pair of shoes that he was selling.
For a while, you can be anybody you want in
that world. But DC or the political machine definitely tried
to destroy him, and it's one of the reasons he
got more popular. The felony conviction stuff that is a
joke out of New York City, and the you know
what's typically always a misdemeanor, as I keep saying, it

(01:01:24):
inflated to a felony charge. All of those things have
done one thing, you know, one impact more than any
other on the elites in d C who hate the
truth of this. They don't have the power to tell
you what to think the way they thought they did,
and that is good. And I think that we're going
to see more and more of that, and it's going
to make people very mad. And unfortunately, you're going to

(01:01:46):
have a lot of people in mainstream media that are
either just continually willing to suck up and eat up
all of the lies that they're told by their side
of the political aisle, essentially the useful idiots, or you're
going to have people who are willingly in on the take,
which is something that Scott Jennings pointed out, and I
thought he did a great job in pointing this out
on CNN the other day, you know, essentially manipulating the

(01:02:09):
narrative on purpose to benefit the few and not benefit
the rest of us. But no matter what it is,
whatever way you talk about it, there's sort of a
profound amount of at least discussion that maybe we've been
missing for the last however many years. But as I
reference that, I can go up ahead and play some
audio of that too. Scott Jennings on CNN said a

(01:02:30):
thing that you don't hear often said on CNN and
made a comparison about this giant report out of the
Wall Street Journal that says that you know, Biden was
not mentally capable of running our country, even though he
was elected into that position of power, or even though
he was serving in that role, and that that is

(01:02:51):
a problem more so than Elon Musk having any sort
of outstretched influence over Donald Trump. And I think that's
a great argument to be had, And I think the
Walls Rejournal article is one that if you've missed it,
you should probably go back and check it out. I
think you have to actually pay to get behind the
paywall there, because it's one of the most important stories
in the history of our politics in just how profound

(01:03:13):
the line can be from the side that says they're
the good guys and the other people are the bad guys.
Here's a little bit of Scott Jennings and CNN talking about.

Speaker 15 (01:03:20):
Biggest scandal in America and the level and volume of
people who dedicated themselves to lying to everyone at home
about this man's condition for four straight years up through
this summer is breathtaking. It's a scandal of epic proportions.

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:03:41):
And it's a fair question to ask who is running
the country, who has been running the country. And as
I said earlier, if you're worried about Donald Trump's advisors
having influence for the last four years, apparently this president
duly elected, but this president was not capable of fulfilling
the duties of the office.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
And the other thing that it always reminds me of
when these moments come up now and they are being
talked about more in places like CNN that should have
been talking about it years ago and not dismissing it.
But the thing that I think of is the the
classified documents case and how it came out that after
interviewing Biden, they decided not to move forward with charges

(01:04:22):
because a jury would find sympathy, they'd find reasons to
say that Biden can't be guilty of something he did
years ago because he's too mentally, you know, broken, too
much decline has occurred. Essentially, they'd see him as an
old man who doesn't think well or doesn't have his
brain operate correctly. And that was resoundingly trashed. And that

(01:04:44):
was a place in the world where you'd think when
the the you know, negative speech is coming, I don't
even know that's what you call it, but the the
you know, demonstration that Biden's not all there, it's coming
from a place that you wouldn't normally hear it come from,
meaning a court case in which they're saying, this is
the reason not to move forward with charges that we

(01:05:04):
think evidently show that he kept classified documents he shouldn't
have kept. It is astounding that that was something that
was allowed to fall on deaf ears until Biden does
badly in a debate. And then finally, and only because
Democrat it benefits the Democratic Party, because they knew he
couldn't win the election anymore. Do they admit that his
brain is broken? And then it becomes a thing you're

(01:05:25):
allowed to talk about because now it's a thing that
they thought would help them gain an election, win an
election as opposed to lose one. And that matters too,
because the truth did not come out from mainstream media
and the other side because they couldn't keep it silent anymore.
It came out because they thought it benefited them, and
it was out for anyone who was paying attention to

(01:05:46):
those other sources, sources like this platform that talked about
it a lot. All right, quick break a lot more.
Craig Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

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Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Irreverence Like, yeah, so what it's the Chat Benson.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
stuff to talk about. I want to bring in a
friend of mine, a twenty year Navy veteran, Michael Reagan Mt.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Reagan as I call him. I was joining the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
He is a part of twenty two VA, which is
an art group out of Central Illinois that does a
lot of things to help veterans via you know, embracing
or enhancing the art that they do, displaying the art
that they do. I know they have an ongoing display
that happens at a library there in Central Illinois. But
he does something else that I think is really cool,

(01:07:35):
and he's been doing it for almost three years now. Michael,
welcome to the show. Tell me about the Patriot Plunge.

Speaker 22 (01:07:43):
It's cold, you know all about it. Man. There's somebody actually,
somebody said yesterday that they saw a picture of me
on a frozen creek with some girl, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Like, ah, dude, come on now, that was me. That
was last year in December, jumping in the water out.
Tell everybody who doesn't know what's the Patriot one?

Speaker 22 (01:08:03):
Okay, On the twenty second of every month, regardless of
what the weather is like, we jump in the Illinois
River to raise awareness about veterans suicide.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Yeah, and you've been doing this for.

Speaker 22 (01:08:13):
The million years. Yeah, November was three years. Wow, yep,
this is three years and one month. If I can
make it to the twenty second.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
So I hope you do.

Speaker 22 (01:08:24):
Yeah, yeah, I should be able to make it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
And you were saying the reason why again was what.

Speaker 22 (01:08:30):
Well, twenty two Veterans Day commit suicide. And years ago
I went to a suicide prevention conference and Gaylord Grand
Old Opry Ballroom Convention Center in Nashville, Tennessee. Because that
was where the government decided to spend taxpayer dollars. I
went down there and I figured out what the VA
is doing as they're pulling twenty two bodies out of
the water every day, trying to figure out why they

(01:08:51):
jumped in. So I thought, well, perfect military sense. In
order to keep somebody from doing something, you do it.
So we jump in the river to keep people out
of jumping in the river. Instead of pulling twenty two
bodies out of the water, we get an upstream approach
where we try to get with people, find out where
your artistic skills are, find out different things that mean
things to you, try to help you. Find reasons to

(01:09:13):
not jump in the water. And one of the reasons
not to jump in the water is to go to
the Patriot Plunge and jump in the water with a
group of people.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Right and come back out of the water. A couple
quick things.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
So first, what I love most about what you're doing,
and I know I saw some social media comments with
people asking questions about it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
You're not asking for money.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
This isn't necessarily a fundraising effort, although it could be.
For twenty two VA your art group otes Central Illinois,
that could probably use funding like any other nonprofit could,
but you've never once asked for that. You just want
to raise awareness about veterans suicide and the way that
this is something that can happen beyond the place in
which you are and where you will be on Sunday.

(01:09:51):
Is anyone could go on social media. I use the
hashtag Patriot Plunge. I maybe comment to twenty two VA
as well and do an ice bucket challenge, and you
do a cold plunge challenge, or do something where you
put yourself in an uncomfortable situation for a couple of minutes,
which you've told me many times is what the military
has to do day in and day out when they
serve for us, in order to raise awareness about how

(01:10:12):
big of an issue, how bad of an issue this
is that we're seeing veterans suicide at a higher level
than we've ever seen before this country.

Speaker 22 (01:10:21):
Exactly well, and regardless of what the weather is like,
we jump. I know it's going to be like thirteen
to nineteen degrees on Sunday when we jump. I know
that you're hating it not being up here, because oh yeah,
I don't know what you're doing. I don't know why
anybody would want to be in Florida. All that sand
on the beach. You guys don't have any mud, no
flying carp Yeah, you know what's funny?

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Actually, go ahead, what are you gonna say?

Speaker 22 (01:10:46):
I said, We're going to jump in the Illinois River
and wade around in that nice feces water. Ah. Yeah,
that brown water stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
There, right, the one that I've been in before.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I tried to change your event on your social media
page to have two locations. I want in Illinois and
the other one at Daytona Beach in Florida because that's
where I'll be on the twenty second and it didn't
let me. I was like, is like, that's not yeah,
that's not allowed. And so I'm like, all right, that's fine,
but we are jumping in bodies of water. I will
find a way to be more uncomfortable than just going
to Daytona Beach. But I thank you so much for
the thing you're doing to raise awareness about it. Like

(01:11:18):
I said, people can find out more about twenty two
VA Facebook dot com, slash twenty two vet art is
one way to find them. There's a lot of ways
to find them. If you want to donate, if you
want to help Mt help veterans through art in his
community or anywhere else, find ways to do that. But
this isn't about that. This is just about creating a
social media campaign that gives people more awareness as to

(01:11:41):
the problem that is veterans suicide. And for that, man,
you're doing an incredible job. Patriot Plunge is the name
of it. Hashtag Patriot Plunge. You do it at noon,
people can do it at any time. On the twenty second,
I look forward to talking again soon about this man,
because I really think this is the kind of thing
three years in that's got to get off the ground
soon as far as public awareness.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
But thanks for joining the show, man.

Speaker 22 (01:12:02):
Yeah, thanks for having us.

Speaker 10 (01:12:03):
Man.

Speaker 22 (01:12:03):
Don't forget seven pm. You can do the ice water
Challenge too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
That's true. Both of those are the thing, all right.
I gotta get out of here, quick break. Greig Collins
filling in on the Chad Benson Show, and honestly, one
more time, just to reiterate the thing I love most
about getting to know that veteran, or a lot of
veterans like Mt. Reagan, Michael Reagan, is the desire they
have just for awareness to be created in our society

(01:12:27):
to the challenges they face. Because he's never asked for money.
He's been jumping in a freezing cold river for three years.
I jumped in it with him a bunch of times
as well. Not once has anyone had to cut a check.
Just be aware of the problem that is veterans suicide,
quick break a lot more. Craig Collins filling in on
the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. It feels like
there should be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
A bunch of stuff to talk about, something I often say,
and yet the dominant topic of conversation for most talking
heads and pretty much everybody in the world of politics
is Elon Musk. Not just the fact that a whole
lot of other things are going to happen in the
next few weeks. As Donald Trump actually officially takes office
and control away from Joe Biden. There's the article out

(01:13:55):
there by the Wall Street Journal saying how Biden's brain
didn't work all four years he was in the White House.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
And a whole bunch of people knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
A whole bunch of people hit it, but most people
are just obsessed with Elon Musk and whether or not
he's actually in control or if Trump is Trump did
tweet out or actually put out on truth social and
then I think it gets reposted on Twitter by or
x by others that if a government shutdown is to happen,
he'd prefer that it happens now, as opposed to during

(01:14:23):
a Trump administration. And that's the one thing I'll actually
say about this, and then we'll move on to other stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I don't care whose fault it is. I just don't care,
and you shouldn't care about that, because.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
That's the obsession with the politicians now, is well, if
it shuts down, let's figure out what side to blame.
I just care that they actually get things right and
don't keep getting things wrong. If you can't pass a
bill that simply funds the government without access spending, if
you can't do that, then we have to figure out

(01:14:56):
why you can't do that, not who exactly which political
side the isle. It's not about points anymore. It's about
actually doing things that don't horribly overspend and ruin our lives.
Via the decision making of our government. That's all that matters.
And so I'm not trying to defend and say that
like Democrats aren't responsible, or that Republicans aren't responsible, or

(01:15:17):
that they are. I just think that the discussion about
that is an intentional, political created version of talking about
something that isn't necessarily as important as what we do
to fix the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Because there's a lot of problems and a lot of
need to fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Another thing out there, a shifting gears and talking about
deportation is everything that Tom Holman has been saying recently.
And I've been very amused by the matter of fact
way in which these topics get discussed by this individual specifically,
and then how much people freak out about it and
get mad and get angry Tom Holman, how dare he

(01:15:55):
say this thing or do that thing, or potentially believe
something that he's not supposed to believe. And he's been
most often in interviews now talking about how deportations are
going to start on day one. He also did an
interview yesterday on Fox where he talked about what was
going on in Denver, in Colorado and all the people

(01:16:17):
that you were being told weren't actually taking over apartment
complexes there. Famously, Donald Trump actually got fact checked when
he talked about this issue on television, and you were
told it wasn't true, and it turns out that it
happens to be rather true. But Holman had a response,
and not just a response about his own awareness of
the issue, but what he'll be doing to fix it

(01:16:39):
once he gets to be in charge.

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
Rescued and moved out of that Primer complex. As her
life was that danger, I was there. They got a problem.
But as far as trying to Ogwit's concern, they're on notice.
You got about five more weeks of doing what you're doing.
But guess what day one January twenty First, you are
a major priority. My gang's bigger than your gang, and

(01:17:02):
we're going to take you off, take you off the
streets to this country. We're going to detain you and
deport you back to your home land. And ven Zeuelan
doesn't want you, We'll send you someplace else.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yeah, we'll send you wherever we have to send you.
But my gang is bigger than your gang. Was probably
the viral moment that I enjoyed the most from him,
because he is going to go ahead and be no nonsense.
And you need someone like that, You need someone that
is willing to say that not only is this problem
one that most Americans agree is an issue, but it's
a problem that needs to be fixed with action, not

(01:17:33):
with words and lack of action, which is something that's
been going on for the last four years. It's just
it's sort of amazing to me. And I don't know
any other way to say it other than to say
it this way, that these are the kind of things
that we talk about now, and these are the kind
of things that some try to turn into controversial statements
because Tom Holman has mostly also said that the way

(01:17:56):
in which and I think Eric Adams is even back this,
and I have some audio about that which I think
is pretty interesting. But most of the time he said
that it's only truly dangerous people that are going to
be removed from our democracy first, or from our our
country first, dangerous people who are here illegally. And somehow
people even object to that, they're like, well, how dare

(01:18:17):
you say that? Or how dare that becomes a thing
which is insane. But Eric Adams recently did an interview.
We talked about a sit down discussion he had with
Tom Holman and some of the things that he agrees
with and some of the things that he hopes to
happen over the next However many, you know, months, it

(01:18:37):
takes for this to be a thing that gets off
the ground. And I thought that was a pretty interesting
moment as well. Here is a little bit of what
Eric Adams was saying about that.

Speaker 23 (01:18:49):
So let's talk about the gangs. Let's talk about what
you agreed to with Tom Homan. Violent criminals will be
deported under the Trump mass deportation. What constitutes a violent
criminal is that someone who is accused, someone who has
been convicted, someone who wears gang tattoos. You know, where
do you draw the line? Did you make that line

(01:19:10):
with him?

Speaker 11 (01:19:11):
No, we did not. We I thought our conversation was
a great conversation. Tom and I both sat down and
we both agree on violent individuals should not remain in
our country. We have laws here in the city on
how that could be handled. My legal team is going
to sit down with his legal team to make the
determination if an executive order can change that. One of

(01:19:34):
the things he would like to have is that's access
to Rykers Island. That's the jail in our city. The
law that was passed on the previous administration said that
no ice officer right can be in any government to
build it. There are exceptions to that. We're looking at
those exceptions. That's my core issue. I've said it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
It's so interesting to think that Eric Adams might be
someone that benefits the Trump administe, specifically in his willingness
to play ball in some of these issues, and how
it wouldn't have happened at least I don't believe it
would happen unless Eric Adams also had his own issues
legally that seem to have come from the Democratic Party.
Not saying he's not potentially guilty of stuff. I imagine that

(01:20:16):
most politicians, if you want to air their dirty laundry,
are in fact actually guilty of things that could get
them to lose their job. A whole lot of that
is just kept secret and not actually talked about. But nonetheless,
the value of this potential partnership being created at this
time can't be understated either, and so it is very
interesting to see it play out, to see it be

(01:20:38):
something that will inevitably, I think, cause the people of
New York to wind up being happier about the fact
that there are a whole lot less people there, that
they have to use government dollars to pay to live
in hotels and whatnot, and all the other things.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Then also just the dangers that exist that society.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
But again, to me, that's a quite profound and a
bigger change.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
I I've seen another thing out there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
This is just media news, and it's not even big
media news. So I don't know why it's something I
wanted to talk about, but I find it interesting at
least a little bit. A news nation has a host
on its television station that isn't watched by a whole
lot of Americans, although it claims that it tries to
be more in the middle than most of our mainstream media.
Is Dan Abrams, who announced that he's leaving as host

(01:21:24):
of his nightly program in February of this year. The
reason I thought that was interesting is Dan Abrams, who
runs a website called Mediaite, has at times tried to
be on both sides of political issues, to be someone
who reports news and says this part isn't true, that
part isn't true. I'm not praising everything he's done or

(01:21:45):
said on television, but at least some of it I've
thought was fairly interesting because the goal was to be
more even keeled and that goal apparently has not gone
the way he would have wanted to go, And so
you're leaving the gig. Whether or not this was, you know,
something that the news station wanted, I think their leadership
said they didn't necessarily want to see this happen is

(01:22:08):
interesting to me. But I guess the only question that
I ask whenever any sort of news stories like this
come out is are the American people interested in middle
of the road discussions or are they interested in opinionated discussions?
And the reason I think that middle of the road
doesn't work as much as it should is not because
people don't want honesty. I think a whole lot of

(01:22:31):
Americans desire, profoundly desire, you know, exceptionally to a degree
that I think we've never had before. Honest media first
and foremost, you want honest media. But the problem, at
least in my opinion, and this might be a deep
dive for anyone that doesn't care about it. And I
wonder what you think, and you can tell us at

(01:22:51):
places like Chad Benson Show on Twitter or on Facebook.
I think The problem for a lot of individuals is
they're so jaded by the lies and the craft that
they get told by the mainstream media outlet that is
utterly biased that when you hear maybe you'd even call
it weak ways of talking about certain topics because those

(01:23:12):
topics are maybe trying to be talked about more fairly
than with strong level opinion, that it reminds you of
all the crap you get as far as lies go
on the opinionated places that are trying to hide it.
I think the real problem is the place is that
claim that they're middle of the road and evidently aren't,
And how much more difficult it makes it for someone

(01:23:32):
to try to be middle of the road when they
sound like they're also doing that thing where they're lying
to you through a mission or whatever else it might be.
But I do find that as like an interesting challenge
of say, the world we have moving forward for anyone
that wants to say that you can play in both
sides of the sandbox all the time, and honestly, something
I truly admire Chad Benson uniquely, who being on his

(01:23:55):
show right now, I'm not doing this to kiss up,
I'm just doing this in all honesty is so good
at doing because there's so few people who are good
at doing that well, where they're going to have just
an honest conversation with you, whatever the topic might be,
and not be worried that people are going to somehow
be up in arms about things you said or didn't say,
or whatever else is going on there. But I just

(01:24:16):
find that interesting that a guy that was saying he
truly wanted to be middle of the road and did
talk at times about topics on both sides of the
aisle in the world of television, has decided to walk
away from television. It also screams about the importance of
those other platforms that are out there that even had
a disproportionate impact on our election and the amount of
people who wound up voting because of what they saw

(01:24:38):
on a podcast or what they saw in other places
than they're used to seeing them. But anyway, that's a
long discussion about something that probably was not on your
radar or many people's radar, that Dan Abrams is walking
away from television. But we'll get to some other things
as well in a little bit here, mostly holiday things
that are probably more fun to talk about anyway. But
I am in for Chad Benson. My name is Craig Collins.

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Chad will be back just after the Holidays on the
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Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
If you like talk radio like Chad Benson likes his meals,
You've come to the perfect place for takeout.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
stuff out there to talk about. Someone has created the
most expensive Christmas tree ever made. It's worth five point
five million dollars, and I gotta tell you, I think
it's lazy because it's really just a bunch of gold
that's stacked in basically a triangle shape that they're saying

(01:26:39):
is a Christmas tree. It has no ornaments on it,
no lights, but they're saying it's the most expensive tree ever.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
It's easy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
You can wrap gold or well, okay, you have to
have access to gold.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
That's probably harder.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
You can put gold on anything and then call it
the most expensive version of that thing. I want something trickier, man,
I want something with a bunch of technology in it,
or some other way to make it very expensive that
has nothing to do with just being made of cold.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
But this is real. It went viral and a lot
of people are upset and complaining about it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
I don't know if I care as much about that discussion,
though I would be thrilled to get to spend about
fifty minutes with the most expensive Christmas tree ever made
because some pieces of gold would go missing. And I
hope no one can crack the code that it was me,
and I'm sure they probably could all right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Other things out there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
I saw this and thought it was funny that people
are potentially upset about it too. Costco will be making
a big change to its food court in twenty twenty five.
They'll be going away from pepsi products and instead using
Coca Cola products, and a lot of people will not notice.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
That's what I assume is true. Some people might.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
I have people in my family who are hardcore on
one side or the other of this discussion, and then
also are usually the same people that tell me they
got to cut back on soda, but they're very strong
about whether coke or pepsi is better. I've never been
that guy. I think, if I'm being honest about myself,
that Coca Cola might be a little bit better than pepsi.

(01:28:06):
But I don't think I really care, and I don't
think I really notice, and I don't think if the
food court at my local cost go change stuff, I
would pay attention to that. But some people on the
internet are up in arms, and so I figured i'd
mention it to you in case you're one of them.
And essentially, I guess tell you you're dumb. But you
know that's on me. That's on me for not getting it,
I guess, and I'm willingly.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Admitting that that I don't care at all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
All Right, one last thing too, I do like this.
Fifty three percent of Americans admit that getting a gift
they don't want is costly because they have to return it,
darn it. And that's a unique way to complain about stuff,
to say that now that I have to bring something
back to the store, it's cost me my time and
my effort for that reason. Just don't get me anything
bah humbug next year and leave me to myself, or

(01:28:49):
go with the gift card of the money, because that's safer,
no one's returning that. This is Craig Collins filling in
giving away money as a gift to my family the
holiday season on The Chad Benson Show, and a lot
of other things to talk about today beyond just that
seventy two dollars is the typical amount of money we
spend on a gift, according to this story. I don't

(01:29:10):
think that's the typical amount of money you give to
people when you give them stuff. If you're giving people
that aren't like super close to you money, I think
it's like twenty to forty bucks. And I'm guessing at
that I would like to know from you because I
don't actually give a lot of money to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
A lot of people in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
I have a lot of friends that you don't want
to do the Christmas gift exchange, which I'm happy about.
They save their money, I save my money. Our friendship
isn't damaged by the fact that we didn't buy stuff
by each other's stuff once a year. I have friends
where I do buy them gifts, though, because you know,
I can't do that one sided, it's going to be terrible.
But then also, people in your life who are close
to you, if you give them more like one hundred

(01:29:49):
bucks or something, that's probably a family. I actually have
an aunt that sends money every single year to all
of her nieces and nephews and it's awesome, and it's
usually an that range of twenty to forty bucks or so,
and it's great. I know that it doesn't sound like
a lot of money now, but it's still the kind
of money that you can do something with. You can
go out and have a nice well, okay, maybe a

(01:30:13):
meal of some kind, and it's very kind. And so
I love it for that reason, and I love the
people who are sending those types of gifts to me.
And then I don't have to return them because money's
awesome and no one ever returns it. It'd be so
weird to be like, I don't like this money. I
want different money, all right, quick break a lot more.
Greg Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 6 (01:30:47):
Such Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about. I feel like it's contractually required
of me to at least say something about a potential
government shutdown today in every segment that I do on
the show. No, I'm kidding, but it feels that way
because it might happen. And the one thing I'll say,
and I've been saying it before before I move on

(01:31:35):
from this topic, is you're not going to notice as
much as they're telling you. You're going to notice if
the government shuts down, if that is not averted, outside
of the fact that it will make me and a
lot of people angry that military members are not getting paid.
And Congress can do something to fix that at any
moment they want to. They can pass a bill to
make sure that, regardless of shutdown, the military gets paid,

(01:31:56):
and they should do that, and they should pass a clean,
a one topic bill and not bicker about that, because
it's ridiculous to think that politicians get paid and military don't.
Other than that, there aren't going to be a lot
of ways much I'll care or you'll care. And if
they actually fix the amount of ridiculous overspending within these
budgets as opposed to just you know, shutting down the

(01:32:16):
government and then passing it anyway in a few weeks
or potentially like a month like they did in twenty nineteen,
then essentially everything will be worse and not better. But
my hope is that if the government does shut down,
that the response to that is to do something more responsible,
which politicians are really really bad at in other news,
and this is being talked about a lot. President Biden,

(01:32:39):
who according to the Wall Street Journal, has not been
mentally capable to do his job more or less for
the entire time that he's been in office, recently forgave
four point two eight billion dollars in student loans from
fifty four nine hundred borrowers. There's one system he's been
using to forgive debt that does not apply to a

(01:33:00):
whole lot of student loan borrowers, but does to some,
and it is the Public Service.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Loan Forgiveness program.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
This means anyone who has worked in a public service space,
which can be a teacher, essentially a federal job of
some kind. There's quite a few examples of that those
individuals can get their loan forgiven after a certain amount
of years of working in those spaces. It is a
program that was often said to be broken and unfair,
and the promise didn't, you know, hold as far as

(01:33:28):
the reality of these things, and the system was designed
purposefully challenging.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
To do this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
But it does feel like this forgiveness is also happening
in a time when Biden is trying to give as
much student loan forgiveness as he can, and this is
the only avenue he's finding to do it. And so
even the definition of what it means to be a
public service individual seems to be as you know, wide
reaching as possible for this administration. In the last weeks

(01:33:56):
before Trump takes over, I do want to say one
thing about student loan dead forgiveness.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
And I'm almost forty and.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
I still have student loans from when I was in
my twenties. That was a decision I made. I signed
on the dotted line. I'm not an advocate for student
loan debt forgiveness in general, because I know that it's unfair.
I know that those who have loans that all of
a sudden a sudden see them wiped away are like awesome,
and everybody else who sees the cost of that hit
them is exactly feeling the opposite. It's true of anything

(01:34:27):
real quick that people vote on. If you're talking about reparations,
for example, and you're a black person that feels like
you're going to get free money from the government, and
stats back this up, you are overwhelmingly in favor of
something that gives you money. If you're anyone else that
means anyone that would not get that check, you're overwhelmingly
not in favor of other people getting money, no matter

(01:34:50):
what the topic is. I use reparations as one other example,
but you can pick the example, and it's always true.
For student loan debt forgiveness, the people that are the
biggest proponents of it are a young people who have
student loans, and not anyone else. But the thing I
will say about all of this is I wonder how
much of a promise it will be moving forward for

(01:35:11):
democratic politicians, because it feels like so many of the
arguments they made, whether it be in twenty twenty or
in twenty twenty four, have now changed as to the
value that they see in them. One of the groups
of people that voted more significantly for Trump than you've
seen vote for a Republican in the past were young people,
and specifically young men. And so it's interesting and actually

(01:35:35):
I don't know if this ties together, but this data
is true, the amount of young people who seek a
higher education, the amount of young people who go to college.
It's actually more likely that women go to college than
men in today's society now, and so I find that
interesting that student loan debt forgiveness isn't the kind of
winning argument that Democrats thought it would be for a

(01:35:56):
younger generation. And there is some sort potentially split between
the genders based on that, or the genders that most
of us think exist on not all of us. And
by the way, that leads me to another piece of
audio that I do really enjoy today that I just
find funny, mostly because it kind of opens up a
door that I didn't know that Democrats were willing to

(01:36:16):
open up. But this was a House Democrat yesterday saying
that we need to spend more money on female crash
test dummies. That means ones that have a bigger bust area,
ones that are top heavy, I think is another way
to say it, so that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
We understand the impact.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
And I wonder how many dudes I wouldn't hate this
idea because they'd be somehow entertained by well endowed female
dummies being the ones in the crash test videosannontheless, it
does seem like really stupid things to spend money on,
but here's someone making this argument. And again what's surprising
to me is it sounds like we can now better

(01:36:55):
define what a woman is or what that word means
than I thought we could before.

Speaker 14 (01:37:01):
You also plan to make important investments to address the
roadway safety crisis, including the critical funding that would accelerate
the development. And this is an area I've written to
you about of the use of female dummies and crash testing.
This will start to fight the gender inequity among vehicle
safety and crash victims right this budget, this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Is very important that we fight this fights by spending
a lot of money on recreating our dummies to have
them looked at it. Can we like do the cheap
version of this, because I'm not against this if this
actually has data value to it, but just put like,
you know, a silly bra on people that has some
fake stuff in it and just figured it out that way.
That sounds fine to me. That sounds wildly entertaining to me. Actually,

(01:37:44):
let's dress up the dummies and all kinds of stuff,
but let's do it on the cheap Let's do it
from the dollar store version of shopping or any version
of like thrift store shopping.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Let's not invest money on creating new products that a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Whole lot of people would argue don't actually have any
sort of data value. But is there a middle ground
we can find here for this woman to make her happier,
and also again follow up her question by asking, well,
wait a minute, what is a woman? Because I thought
there was some confusion there, and some of us didn't
think we had confusion there, but I thought you guys did,
And so it's nice to hear that now we can understand,

(01:38:16):
at least when it comes to dummies and not the
rest of us. And I'm not trying to be mean,
I mean the actual item itself. We now know that
there is in fact a gender.

Speaker 16 (01:38:26):
Isn't that?

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Actually I'll say that one more.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Time, and I don't mean to repeat it, but it's
kind of hilarious that in the world of human beings,
if you ask a person of a political side of
the aisle what separates us by gender, they're going to
struggle with that. But apparently, if we're talking about crash
test dummies, way easier question to answer and way more
hilarious question to have an answer on. Again, if you're me,

(01:38:51):
all right, another thing out there that I really did
think was important and interesting and I can't get over
And this is just an easy maybe you'd even call
it like low hanging fruit, a demonstration of the hypocrisy
that exists a bunch of places. But a spokesperson for
Joe Biden's Department of Defense recently admitted that we had

(01:39:12):
no idea how many American troops were deployed in Syria,
and we missed by a full hundred percent. We thought
it was a little under a thousand. It turns out
to be around two thousand people that are deployed there.
If people say that Pete Hegseth is an inappropriate person
to be in charge of the Department of Defense because
he's not experienced, I don't know what they've been paying

(01:39:33):
attention to over the last few years, because regardless of experience,
apparently there's a lot of stuff that our people in
charge have no idea about. Remember when Lloyd Austin, the
Defense secretary for Biden, I went to the hospital and
we were pretty sure didn't tell Biden about it, and
a bunch of those news reports came out and everybody
said they were fake, But there was no way to
demonstrate that any communication went between Biden and his a

(01:39:57):
secretary of Defense while someone was surprisingly in the hospital
and wound up being okay after a few days stay.
That seemed to matter. Whether or not they have experience
is probably one thing. Whether or not they speak to
each other the president and the Secretary of Defense feels
like another thing that's important. But again, here is a
spokesperson saying, we got to be honest. We've been telling

(01:40:20):
you some stats for a while now, and we just
found out they're totally wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:40:23):
As you know, we have been briefing you regularly that
there are approximately nine hundred US troops deployed to Syria
in light of the situation in Syria and the significant interest.
We recently learned that those numbers were higher, and so
I'm going to be asked to look into it. I
learned today that, in fact, there are approximately two thousand

(01:40:45):
US troops in Syria. As I understand it, and as
it was explained to me, these additional forces are considered
temporary rotational forces that deployed to meet shifting mission requirements.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
I wish you went even further.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
He's like, I also found out that Syria is a
real I thought that it was a fake place that
we talked about sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
I also found out that this is true, or that
is true.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
I would have loved that you just dive deeper into
the world of how do you not know that stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
But that essentially is a thing that's happening right now.
The people that have the appropriate qualifications and are the
right people for the job are not even aware of
how many troops we have in certain parts of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
And that seems bad.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
That seems like the kind of thing that when you
go out in front of the press and you're like,
wait a minute, they're asking for a number, what's the number.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Oh, that's the number. Okay, we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
We'll tell you that for months at a time, that
they actually have that information correct, and they're not so
arrogant that they would think to themselves, I don't need
to double check this math. It'll be fine until eventually
you're told it's wrong. And then you do the literal
thing that you see online all the time as a
meme or a joke. I found this out today. I
was today years old when I realized we've been lying

(01:41:53):
to you for a while on this.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
All right, I got to take a break. A little
bit more coming up.

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Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Take one for
the team. If you're a flat earther. Apparently that's viral
audio that's out there. A guy that is a YouTuber.
His name is Jaron Campanella.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
I want a.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Thirty five thousand dollars trip with another guy named Will
Duffy to demonstrate that there is in fact a round
or flat Earth based on Antarctica and areas of it
that have a twenty four hour sun. The flat earther said,
that's impossible. Man, can't be a thing because we've got
a flat Earth. So the son's got to go down
and gotta come up. And he found out he was wrong.

(01:44:20):
And the beginning part of this audio is pretty funny
to me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Here we go.

Speaker 24 (01:44:24):
Now turn it over to the flat earthers who would
like to go first. So obviously you all know Jaron
Campanella of Jarinism, one of the most popular flat Earth
YouTube channel for long.

Speaker 12 (01:44:36):
All right, guys, sometimes you are wrong. And I thought
that there was no twenty four hours son I was
pretty sure of it, yahnyware, But I respect Will Duffy
for great a stand up guy.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
That guy's believed in the way that he kept saying
it was true.

Speaker 12 (01:44:53):
I kept saying it wasn't. He said, do you want
to go, I'll take you and brought me here, And
it's a fact.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
It's true. In fact, it apparently does happen. The sun
does circle.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
You know you in the south, is what he goes
on to say, And so I love that. He's like,
you're gonna take me on this trip. We're gonna get
to go there. That's awesome. And I'm wrong now and
it's just the beginning part that I like so much.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
Sometimes in this life, man, you are wrong.

Speaker 12 (01:45:17):
Sometimes you are wrong in life. And I thought that
there was no twenty four hours son.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Ah, and I was wrong about that. I love that audio,
and I think it's great that it's out there. Probably
more of that needed to happen and go on and Honestly,
here's the one thing I'll say. I'm not trying to
be overly serious. And I know it's the holidays and kumbaya.
We all need to get along on that kind of stuff.
This is why I advocate, and I know that Chad
Benson advocates for this. I know that even when John

(01:45:45):
Stewart says this, it's something that Chad and I both
agree with. You don't defeat people who are wrong about
stuff by telling them to shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
You don't tell them to stop talking.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
You don't tell them to sit in the corner, and
that their rights aren't important anymore, that they don't have
freedom of speech all that stuff. You defeat them by
talking to them, by lifting the conversation in a way
in which you hear the criticism and you respond back
to it with the facts and information. And even if
you don't change the mind to the person that you're
arguing with, you do a great job in helping to

(01:46:15):
influence the mind of everyone else who's paying attention to
the discussion itself, and sometimes that's more important. And essentially
this is that this is a demonstration that being willing
to go as far as to have a version of
conversation and a version of all right, I'll prove to
you you're wrong, where someone might change their opinion, but
more importantly, the people who follow the might That's how

(01:46:36):
you get further in society, not shouting people down, telling
them to shut up, and telling them how dare you
get on this platform. It's dangerous to have you here
with your opinions. That is stupidity, and that treats us
like we're morons, and that makes a lot of us
quite mad. But I just love that audio so much.
One other thing out there, just quickly to touch on.
There is an ugly Christmas doll that apparently is very

(01:46:58):
popular this year. It's made by the same people who
made beanie babies. I didn't really know that beanie baby
like things were still a thing. This is a keychain
doll that just looks terrible. It's supposed to be I think,
a gingerbread person, but the way the things all got
put together, the nose, the mouth, the eyeballs, it's terrifying.

(01:47:19):
It's the stuff of nightmares, and it's very popular for
some reason this holiday season. It's being bought out of
any local drug store that carries it. People are buying
it out online, an ugly Christmas doll that is a
huge hit this holiday season. Because one thing that does
become very apparent I maybe do a lot of us
is we still enjoy sarcasm and that sense of humor.

(01:47:41):
Whether it's the ugly Christmas sweater trend that happens all
over society or this one. People want to buy something
that looks terrible because they think it's funny to celebrate
the holidays with a terrible looking.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
Doll on your keychain.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
Then I don't want because again there's a level to this.
The face of this thing, it just looks wrong. It
looks all kind disturbing, and I know it's gonna haunt
my dreams and.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
I wanted to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
I don't want to be a part of any of
that whatsoever. And then one last thing, I guess if
I have time for one more quickie out there, the
one three one easy to remember hack can save your
travel plans if you fight is canceled or delayed. I'm
not gonna tell you what it is. Actually, You're either
gonna have to google it because we're gonna run out
of time on this, or I'll tell you on Monday
when I'm back in for Chad Benson the one three

(01:48:25):
to one travel hack on how to set up things.
That's right, this is a weekend long tease because I'm
going to run out of time and inability to pay
this off, and I'm kind of thrilled about that. Merry Christmas,
all happy holidays till Craig Collins filling in on the
Jad Benson Show and uh with you for a few
more days. Chad'll be back right after the holidays, the

(01:48:47):
one three to one easy to Remember hack. I could
actually throw part of it out there since I wind
up with a little bit extra time, but I'm still
not going to do it. I'm just gonna keep stalling
and deciding that I am doing the longest teas ever
in the history your radio.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
I'll by waiting to pay this off till over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
There's also a hack out there, and I know you
guys can find this all out on your own. That
tells you how to never sit in a middle seat,
but this one makes me mad because it involves you know,
gaming the system, and I don't want to be in
the middle seat because you're better at using technology. Darn it,
I'm not telling you that one either, but happy holidays,
bah humbug. I'm sorry for not giving you all the
gifts that I have promised to give, but I promise

(01:49:23):
to pay it off next week. Craig Collins filling in
on The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
This is the Chad Benson Show.

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