Kamala Harris' Kwanzaa Message Sparks Outrage

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Thrilled to be with you.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
So much stuff out there to talk about and cover,
but I will start with something that's been talked about
a lot over the last couple of days, and it's Kwanza,
which is going on right now. The vice president failed
candidate to trying to be the president of the United States,
Kamala Harris claimed that she celebrated Kwanza growing up.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Here's some issues with that idea.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Although it's not impossible, I will admit that Kwanza was
created two years after Kamala Harris was born in nineteen
sixty six. She was born in nineteen sixty four. And
then I can play some of the audio of the
things she said growing up that her family did. Kwansa
wasn't even really in the you know, knowledge of most Americans,

(01:03):
not in our understanding, or you know, even something that
people were aware of until about nineteen eighty, which means
she would have been fourteen or fifteen by the time
this was celebrated. Beyond people that would be described as
black nationalists or some would even call them radical by
the way the person who created Kwansa still alive. That individual,
at times in his life has said that he thinks

(01:25):
Jesus was insane, and he also said that he believes
Christianity is a white religion that black people should shun.
Those are messages that were shared by the person who
created Quansa. Not trying to vilify whatever version of it
you celebrate. Now if you're someone that celebrates it, but
it's only been around for like sixty years, it has
its start from an individual who certainly surrounded in controversy.

(01:49):
And again, it was created two years after Kamala Harris
was born, and it took fifteen years of her life
for it to become something that many people beyond the
you know, extreme too many would call it knew about it.
So your guest is as good as mine as to
why she claims this is what her childhood was like.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
You know, my sister and I we grew up celebrating
Kwansa every year. Our family, in our extended family, we
would gather around across multiple generations and we tell stories.
The kids would sit on the carpet and the elders
would sit in chairs, and we would like the candles
and of course afterwards have a beautiful meal, and of

(02:28):
course there was always the discussion of the Seven principles.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Always, of course I always did that.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
The way that she talked about the elders in her
family too, made it sound like this is something that's
been going on for a long long time, when again,
depending on when she's talking about it in her childhood,
the existence of the idea of this holiday even or
the original concept of it, would only be a couple
of years, you know, having been created by the time

(02:55):
she's five, six, seven years old. And so it makes
very little sense that any of this could be true.
And if it is true, it might be saying something
about the family that she was raised it, or at
least the likelihood that that family is connected to some
of the more radical aspects of the initial creation of Quanta.
And again, you can attack me if you want. I'm
a white guy, I'm almost forty, and I'm talking about

(03:17):
this on the radio. But just look at the history
and the history of the individual who created it before
you say that I'm a horrible racist who made all
this stuff up. And I'm not judging anyone who celebrates
it now, because people who celebrate it now might not
even be aware of the things that are, you know,
part of its development, and that is to each their own.
Whatever you want to celebrate, you do you. I'll do me,

(03:40):
and that'll be just fine. I do think it's uniquely
bad though, to try to say that Christianity is a
white religion and for that reason Black people need to
stay away from it. It sounds like separating us instead
of bringing us together, which seems bad.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I wouldn't not do something because I think another race
is too involved in it. That's not how I tried
to play basketball as a kid growing up. Definitely a joke.
I tried. I even wound up sitting a bench on
a junior college basketball team. Not very good compared to
the people that were playing in that game or in
those games. And by the way, not a lot of
white guys on my team. All right, other things out there,

(04:17):
this I thought was interesting. Byron Donald's I made some
comments about Democrats and how much of a failure the
four years that they had a chance to be in
power were compared to Trump and compared to what he
expects Trump will do again. I would make the argument
that it actually benefited Donald Trump, as far as the

(04:38):
way in which he has changed some of the things
that he did the first time to what's going to
happen this time, and even just the appointments he's been
making that there was that four years in between. I
think it is crystallized, and even the stuff that happened
with the court cases against him.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
But I think it has crystallized what he's.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Going to do and how he's going to use media's
obsession with him him to his own benefit, whether you're
talking about the Panama Canal, anything else out there right
now that's getting ad nauseum talked about. It seems to
benefit Trump at the negotiation table that these things are
an obsession with mainstream media. I've mentioned that before, but
here's Byron Donald saying how important he thinks the failure

(05:18):
of Democrats has been to so many people being aware
of the benefit of having someone like Trump in charge
moving forward.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
I mean, no, not heard much from the Democrats. They're
too busy licking their wounds and trying to figure out
which way they need to conduct their party. But look,
are they happy about the fact that Kamala Harris was
blown out?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, they're not.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
But is anybody thinking that they're going to do anything
about it. No, they're not. Donald Trump's going to be
the president of the United States. He's going to get
these elections certified on January sixth, He's going to get
inaugurated on January twentieth. The Democrats aren't going to like it,
but those are the breaks because they had an opportunity
to run this country and what they did was they
ran it into the ground. Massively open policy, that's a mess, yeap,

(06:02):
massive inflation, Yeah, censoring the American people.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
List goes on and on.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
This is quite bad of the things that happened and
the amount of their own voters that they alienated, which
seems to make sense that we're in this world now
where a lot of people are expecting a better outcome
over the next four years, just for your own self
personally and financially, because you're changing who is in charge
Beyond that too. I did think this was interesting audio today,

(06:27):
this Jordan Peterson. He popped up on Fox News. He
was having a conversation about a couple things. So, first,
there's people who have been claiming that there's a Daniel
Penny effect going on in society. This means essentially Daniel Penny,
of course, the individual who stepped in and tried to
prevent a homeless man, Jordan Neely, from intimidating people and

(06:50):
threatening people on a subway in New York. Inevitably, Jordan
Neely died via a choke hold, and then also, according
to several people who testified in that court case, other
things that had nothing to do with the choke hold
that Daniel Penny put on Jordan Eely. I explained this
even though I assume you know about this, but anyone
that doesn't. Now, the debate is whether or not politicians

(07:14):
and policy are protecting the American people, or if criminals,
who are seen as victims very often by some of
these radical individuals like Alvin Bragg, actually wind up in
a much stronger position than citizens themselves. The Chiron said
criminals have no fear and citizens live in fear, and
Jordan Peterson was asked if he agreed with that, and

(07:35):
he seemingly did.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
It's clearly not true.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
That seems to me to be perfectly reasonable. That's what
happens when you treat criminals like their victims. Now, the right,
you know, the right tends to call for longer jail sentences,
and that's not necessarily effective, but probability of being caught
is very effective. Criminals are rational actors by and large,
and they take risk into effect, as we've seen in
California with the waves of shoplifting emerging after the Californian

(08:03):
government so foolishly decided that any shoplifting under one thousand
dollars wouldn't be prosecuted. Well, anybody with a criminal band
is going to feel that it's a field day. So
the best thing that governments could do is increase the
probability that criminals will actually suffer the consequences of their
actions and stop treating them as if they're victims.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, I want to stop it right there. I love
the way that that stated.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
The best thing the government could do is increase the
probability that criminals will actually suffer the consequences of their actions.
That happens in two ways. First, the amount of belief
you have that you will get caught for whatever the
crime is that you commit. That's a deterrent that matters.
And then also the scale of the punishment matters quite

(08:46):
a bit. This even goes to Donald Trump saying that
he's upset at the thirty seven people that Biden commuted
the sentences of that were on death row, people that
were convicted of really horrific crimes that now will spend
life in prison instead of the death penalty. That is
one way to ensure that people don't do certain things

(09:06):
that man that punishment is particularly bad. I'm not sure
if I want to risk it and commit this crime,
and also just to getting caught part. And you think
about this in a lot of ways beyond say the
criminal activity in specific cities like New York, or like California,
La whatever, San Francisco specifically, or whatever it might be.

(09:27):
When you have those conversations, you can also think about
stuff like the border and how a deterrent a wall
catching people and not just allowing them into our country
would be one aspect, and then having people get sent
back or having people that wind up in trouble that
would be another deterrent that causes less people to try
to do that, which in turn actually causes more people

(09:47):
to be safe because a lot of people will trust
cartels to help them get across the border.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
And just picture that for a second.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I know this isn't exactly what Jordan Peterson is talking about,
even though it's at the forefront of many American minds.
As Donald Trump takes over and as Tom Holman the
new Borders are says that things are going to be
very different here in this country. If you actually pretended
that the Democratic narrative was the only one that exists
for the border, it is not true. It is not

(10:17):
just a mom with two kids making a dangerous journey
from wherever they live into the United States. But that's
what Democrats would say is happening. But there are certainly
other people that have very different reasons to try to
get in our country who come too. But let's assume
that it is the woman and the two kids and
they're coming across the border. They're making a very dangerous trip.
Many many people are treated horrible by cartel along the way,

(10:39):
and horrific things happen both to those women and those children.
Sometimes they get separated even by the cartel. A lot
of child trafficking is the result of what happens at
our border. All of that occurs because someone believes they
have an opportunity to get into our country.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Illegally in stay.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
If we took away that reward the amount of people
who would risk it, especially people in those scenarios who
are already in a difficult situation, would lessen, and it
actually would be a way to protect people from the
violence and terrible things that exist along that journey. I
can't even fathom the idea, by the way of a

(11:17):
kid and their parent trying to walk mostly by foot
and ride on the top of trains and stuff to
get from wherever they live in South America or somewhere
else to the United States border in the first place.
I can't even fathom that. And so again, a protection
would exist in not having that happen to begin with,
which would actually be a good thing. It would actually
be having heart and not the opposite, which is what

(11:40):
it's talked about all the time. But it was interesting
the way that Jordan Peterson put it, and I absolutely
agree you need to increase that in order to prevent
people from doing bad things. All Right, A lot of
other stuff to talk about today. It's a holiday, or
at least a holiday week. We're going to try to
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Speaker 1 (13:08):
Like, yeah, so what it's the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
This is the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
My name is Craig Collins, filling in, Thrilled to be
with you so much to talk about. The transition team
for Donald Trump is hard at work getting the White
House ready for him to move in. One of the
things that's gone viral online is putting the red diet
coke button back in the Oval Office, back on the

(13:35):
resolute desk, which is hilarious. If you don't know what
this is, the first time Trump was in office, he
had a red button that he would push and a
butler would bring him a diet coke his beverage of choice,
which is amazing. Biden got rid of the red button
that could have gotten him any beverage he wanted. Trump's
going to have it put back in the Oval Office,

(13:56):
and it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Every part about that is great.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I would like that for a day, being the diet
coke butler, not because I want to kiss up to
Donald Trump or anything. I just got to think that
that's a unique gig. And you tell the family that
you were the diet coke guy at the White House,
and that's your job. You're a butler who brings diet
coke whenever it's needed. For any such situation, you probably
should act like anyone else does the seriousness of your gig.

(14:21):
You know, the minute the button goes off, you better
be ready with diet coke. Baby, you better be getting
in there quick. I just find that so funny.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
All right, other stuff out there. I saw this.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
A passenger went viral for being very upset about a
thing that happened on a Delta flight. I do think
they're being overly angry. This is definitely a first world problem.
So they said they got upgraded for free to a
first class seat because they're a longtime loyal person, and
I guess there was a first class seat that wasn't
in use, And then a few minutes after that they

(14:52):
were told, never mind, someone did actually purchase that seat,
so you can't have it. When they boarded the plane,
they saw the individual who took the seat was a
dog that a person had bought a second first class
seat when they found out it was available for their
pet so that their pet could sit next to them,
And the human who was downgraded after being upgraded for

(15:12):
free was irate upset that they were replaced by a dog. Look,
if people pay for stuff, they get the stuff they
pay for, no matter what it is, it can make
you as mad as you want it to be. But
I think the fact that it was a free upgrade
should have made you a little less angry than they were.
I know it hurts to be replaced by a dog.
I'm sure it would hurt me. I'm sure it would
hurt anyone else. But again, the dog spent more money

(15:34):
than you did via the owner on the first.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Class seat, so they get to have it.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
But anyway, it went viral and people had all different
kinds of opinions of it being replaced by a dog
in general upsetting. I get that part Craig Collins filling
in on the Chad Denton Show, But I imagine you know,
if you complained a lot, maybe at least get like
a free drink or something. The airline can give you
some sort of compensation, even though they gave you the
flight seat for free to begin with, and then you

(16:00):
got replaced by an animal.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I just think the funniest part about this, too is
that someone else would buy a seat for their dog.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know why I thought that was so amusing,
but I.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Definitely think it is do whatever you want with your money,
but if you have the cage to throw it around
and find out that there's a seat that's technically available,
although sort of not because it was given away, and
you can buy it for a pet that you don't
want to have sit in a cage, but sit up
and have a fancy day themself.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I mean, that's a thing.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I've never seen any sort of dog sit in a
passenger in a coach a seat before, so it would
be a unique experience in and of itself. And I
do know some people I will say this too, that
love dogs so much, and most people actually seem to
love dogs even more than some other people in the world,
that it would actually be less of an insult to
be replaced by a dog than by some other human.

(16:49):
So there are people who'd be happy about that, at
least some that I know for sure would say that,
which amuses me a great deal. For a variety of
other reasons. They do say that in a movie, if
you can a dog, you're gonna upset the audience more
than killing a person, And so that that's interesting and
certainly plays out maybe in some ways here with people
who said they'd be totally fine if a dog replaced

(17:11):
them on a flight, or at least the first class
part of it, all right, quick Break, A lot coming up.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Craig Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 10 (17:37):

Speaker 1 (17:57):

Speaker 2 (18:01):
stilling in. You can find Chad Benson on Facebook, Twitter,
all over the place. A very popular, very famous individual.
A thrilled to be in for him. Chad is going
to be back early next week after the holiday or
late next week after the holidays.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Let's do this.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Kevin O'Leary popped up on Fox Business as he's want
to do the shark from Shark Tank, and he had
some things to say about going to mar A Lago
to chat Canada with President elect Donald Trump. This is
interesting as Trump himself has said quite a few times
that he thinks the Prime Minister should actually just be

(18:39):
the governor and that Canada should be part of the
United States, and Kevin O'Leary is in a similar line
of thinking on this.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I guess here we go.

Speaker 11 (18:46):
There's forty one million Canadians, basically a population of California,
sitting on the world's largest amounts of all resources, including
the most important energy and water. Canadians over the holidays.
The last two days have been talking about this. They
want to hear more and so, you know, there's obviously
a lot of issues, more details. But what this could

(19:07):
be is the beginning of an economic union. Think about
the power of combining the two economies, erasing the border
between Canada and the United States and putting all that
resource up to the northern borders where China and Russia
are knocking on the door. So secure that give a
common currency, figure out taxes across the board, get everything
trading both ways, create a new almost EUO like passport.

(19:32):
I like this idea, and at least half of Canadians
are interested. The problem is the government's collapsing in Canada
right now. Nobody wants Trudeau to negotiate this deal. I
don't want him doing it for me, So I'm going
to go to mar A Lago. I'll start the narrative.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's hilarious by the way that he's like, I love
this idea, and at least have a Canada is on
board with this. I'm not sure if that's exactly true,
although somes seem some stats seem to say that it
might be. But the fifty first state Canada popping into
the United States, and about the population of California is
interesting too, and the resources of course wildly interesting to us,

(20:10):
as is Greenland's resources. That's why some of these conversations
are happening right now when we talk about, excuse me,
things that Trump has brought up that now become these
secondary conversations in the world of talking heads. Panama is
also one of those, in the Panama Canal, so much
so that once again Scott Jennings went viral for something

(20:31):
he said about it, discussing whether or not first it's
an idea that has any sort of value, and definitely
it does, to Scott Jennings, mostly in preventing China from
wielding their influence as they've been trying to do in
places like the Panama Canal. And then for another reason,
which I thought was pretty hilarious, here's a little bit
of Scott Jennings from CNN.

Speaker 12 (20:53):
Over the Panama Canal.

Speaker 13 (20:54):
Well, I tell you what is very serious, and that
is pushing back on the encroachment of Chinese influence in
a way hemisphere.

Speaker 14 (21:00):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 13 (21:02):
I think Donald Trump is trying to send a message
to the Chinese, and he's also trying to send a
message to everyone else in the hemisphere that I'm not
going to put up with this encroachment.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now, what is not going to do?

Speaker 5 (21:11):
It?

Speaker 13 (21:11):
Is it China is having encroachment in this hemisphere, in Africa,
all over the world. They are trying to act like
the world's leading superpower. They are trying to exert their
values and their way of life all over the world.
That used to be our job. And I think what
Donald Trump is saying here is I don't want this
in my backyard. America is the world's superpower. More America
is better, and I'm sending a message that I'm not

(21:33):
going to put up with this.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
You know, I do agree with him on a lot
of what he's saying there, that pushing back on Chinese
influence has a tremendous value to the United States no
matter where we do it. And you heard as O'Leary
said that maybe that could happen in Canada, maybe that
can happen in Greenland, maybe that can happen in the
Panama Canal. It can happen a bunch of places. And
it's the kind of thing that if you stay asleep

(21:55):
at the wheel for too long, as maybe other leaders
here in the United States, have you allow further and
further changing of the guard and changing in ways that
we don't want things to happen on a international stage.
He went on to say a little bit more about it,
because CNN, of course, was worried that we've offended Panama.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
The creeping Chinese influence in my own backyard.

Speaker 12 (22:18):
But give me help me with this thinking though really quick,
and Karen, I'll bring you in a second. But if
it really, if it angers Panama, if it hurts relations
with Panama, the calculation is it won't and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 13 (22:29):
Do I care if Panama is angry?

Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's a great drop him saying that Van Halen might
swing by and have some play complaints. Yeah, by the way,
that song is about a car, not about Panama the place,
but darn it, I would love to see that be
a side product of this, and in general I should

(22:54):
just use that as a drop more often on radio shows.
But yeah, we don't care about Panama and their reaction
to us, because we're far more powerful than they are,
and they'll ignore whatever things we've said that make them
upset because they know they don't really have a way
to do anything else to us, and if they raise
fees even more, maybe we'll actually take back the canal.

(23:15):
I don't know, but it was interesting. It was kind
of funny how viral it went, and how what's the
biggest harm that could possibly be done by quote unquote
offending Panama by saying we might want our gift back
because they're not doing with it what we want them
to be doing with it all this time later, all right,
one other thing I want to play as just audio

(23:35):
out there that I thought was really telling, really important.
This is the German president having a conversation with people
about external influences and the danger to democracy that exists
in the world. I'll play a little bit of this audio,
and it is in a foreign language, and I was wondering, actually,

(23:58):
I forgot to add the interpret rotation to it.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
So that's all you need.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
You don't need more for any of our German speakers
out there, but I'll tell you what he said. External
influence is a danger to democracy, whether it's covert or
open and blatant, as is currently being practiced particularly intensively
on the platform x So the German president went after
the idea that influence in the world of politics is

(24:22):
happening beyond the politicians. What's crazy about this idea? To me,
what's crazy and actually infuriating about it, honestly, is the
idea that we don't have influence in the political landscape
when we choose which people are in those positions to
begin with, at least in our country. So anyone who
gets so up and high and mighty and elitist about thinking,

(24:45):
how dare you paupers?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
How dare you?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
You know, regular people think that you have a voice.
However that voice is being manifested in the things we're doing,
the things we're choosing to do.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
You are upending a system that's working just fine.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's a horribly elite attitude and a horribly scary attitude
in what has become very commonplace in places like DC
or in Germany or wherever, of them thinking they have
all the power and we don't have any and us
needing to reinforce the power dynamic and how it's supposed
to go, and this seems like the best way to

(25:23):
do it. I'll be honest, and I know, whenever anybody
talks about this on you know, media places, radio, television, whatever,
the immediate reaction by the people who are very afraid
is wait a minute, is he calling for us to
like take up arms and fight? Is he calling for
us to have that revolution thing that you're very you know,

(25:44):
conspiracy theory driven uncle says is coming in our society.
I know, of course, I'm not calling for that. I
don't know if that would ever happen, but I do
think that this is a version of that that's better
than that version. People using social media in an un
you know, filtered, uncensored way to voice their opinion and
threaten to remove politicians from political positions by using the

(26:07):
power of voting to vote them out, to primary them out,
is much better than saying that we need to take
up arms and dethrone the power structure in society with violence.
So I'm amazed that so many people criticize this version
of stuff, because the more you try to prevent this
version of voices being heard, the more voices will try

(26:28):
to be heard a different way. I've actually heard this before.
I think this is a quote from Martin Luther King Junior.
I don't want to misattribute it, though, but I'm fairly
certain it is that rioting, protesting, all of those things
are the actions of people who think they're not being heard.
I'm not trying to say that it's okay or that
it means that you're innocent of a crime if you

(26:49):
commit a crime by rioting and doing all that crazy stuff.
But right now, the best way for your voice to
be heard collectively is maybe through the connection that's being
made between Twitter x Elon Musk and Donald Trump, the
guy who will be in the White House. And sometimes
those voices actually don't intersect the way you want them to,

(27:09):
or at least the way that some in certain political
circles don't want them to. But darn it, it's better
than nothing. It's better than having no voice at all,
which at times the politicians seem to think we don't,
especially when they can create ways to get re elected
forever by jerrymandering districts and whatnot to cause themselves to
be lifelong politicians who don't really deserve lifelong appointments. One

(27:32):
other thing I will say about this, and I promise
I'll get into this topic more a little later on
for anyone that cares of avag Ramaswami went viral yesterday
for a long post he put up criticizing Americans and
why tech companies wind up hiring foreign people beyond the
United States. He criticized American culture. Elon Musk seemed to

(27:54):
agree with it, and a whole lot of people that
did not like the opinion seem to be very mad
about it and seem to voice their concern. And mainstream
media has picked up a narrative that say, now Elon
and Vivac are no longer approved of by the MAGA Republican.
I do think the media narrative is desperate and not true.
I think it's a desire that media has to break

(28:17):
apart that relationship, that connection, so they're going to do
everything they can to enhance any sort of narrative that
they think lands there. But there is some truth to
what Viveke was saying, Specifically Viveke on social media and
the way in which he put it that American culture,
American society, especially from the nineteen nineties onward, has allowed

(28:38):
for a mediocrity to exist that might not exist in
other countries where they're raising people, training them to go
after opportunities that they're told they're few and far between
in the world. There are countries out there. India is
one example. Are some people who go to school have
a lifelong dream of doing tech type jobs. In the

(29:01):
United States, that is one thing that we don't actually
necessarily have that same version of standard for because we're
already here. I'm not saying it's a bad thing entirely,
but when you're thinking about being so successful at something
that you want to go succeed on an international level
at it in a place that you've been told is
the place you want to go, I think it's probably

(29:21):
similar to someone wanting to play in the NBA, for example,
for those other countries, And so I think there is
a likelihood that as what Vivek is saying winds up
being actually, you know, psychologically true that the amount of
professionals we're churning out that are born and raised Americans
here in today's society, especially when you look and I'm

(29:41):
a millennial at the nineties and all the ways that
even raising kids has changed over the years, that you
have people that are less motivated than the people that
are trying to get jobs that live in other places
because they've been told how successful and how powerful you
are if you're here in the United States. So I
imagine that to buy product of it and I think
the biggest thing lost for Vague, and I'll talk about

(30:04):
this more later, is that he's saying we can do better.
And I think he's actually trying to position himself to
demonstrate why the board the Department of Education is so
broken and our structure that exists in education is so
broken and needs to be changed, and other things need
to be better valued there. This is a Doge move,
I think, and it wasn't necessarily heard as that. But

(30:26):
all right, we'll take a break. We'll get into a
lot of things throughout the show today. Craig Collins filling
in on the Chad Benson Show.

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Speaker 2 (31:47):
This is the Chad Benson Show, thrilled to be with you.
A bunch of stuff to talk about out there. Can
you eat your Christmas tree? That's a real question, I
guess some people are asking. The answer predominantly is no.
At least you shouldn't. Even if parts of it you
think are edible, you shouldn't do that. There is one
caveat to this rule. Oh and I guess the reason
this question has gone viral online. You can boil the

(32:11):
pine needles and drink them as a tea. That is
something you can do if you want to repurpose everything
you can on the old Christmas tree before giving it
to heave ho in the next few days. I'm not
recommending this either. There are online tutorials about how to
do it. It's fairly simple. Cut needles from tree, put
needles in water, boil and then drink. But again, this

(32:35):
might come with some issues, especially if your tree has
some sort of germs on it you're not aware of,
even though I know you're boiling it.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's just a lot of risk and not a lot
of reward.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
And also the feeling that I guess you're doing something
to use your tree more than maybe the others around
you are.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
So maybe you're going to get a.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Feeling of like eleat, hey, look at me, look at
the good I'm doing because I'm drinking my tree.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I can't help but laugh when I say that. But
don't do this.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I think that's my basic advice for you anyone else
out there. If you want pine needle tea, maybe purchase
it in the little baggies at the shopping market. And
if it doesn't exist there, maybe there's a reason why,
but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
It's a thing.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
You can try it if you want I've informed you,
even though I've also heavily discouraged it. Another trend out
there is people who want to have natural wine, which
when I first saw that topic, was very worried about
what that meant if it somehow was inspired by, say,
jail cell wine.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
It is not.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
It's wine that's made with as little preservatives as possible,
thankfully not in a toilet. But nonetheless it's last jail
cell joke I'll make about wine. People seem to think
this is healthier and better for them, or it tastes better.
Some people do think it's just plain weird to do
as little as possible to change the product that's become wine.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I think that people who debate this kind of stuff
from missing the intention of the alcohol to begin with.
And it's not necessarily to feel healthy while you consume it.
That's not usually a part of my own design behind
having alcohol is like, well, I'm having the healthy stuff, guys.
If I'm going to get drunk, I'm getting drunk in
a healthy way.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
That makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
So, even though this is a trend this holiday season,
and some brands are diving on the trend to sell
wine for more money that might not actually even be
quote natural wine, which again depends on your own definition,
I guess, but there are companies that are putting this
on that you're being told might not actually have followed
all the rules.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I don't care now.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
The box wine is just fine for me, man, Whether
it's natural or artificial as heck, it's not important. It's cheap,
and it's at times delicious, especially if you have more
than one glass of it.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
So that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
And that's all I think you should care about if
you're me or most of the guests at your holiday party.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
But darn it to teach their own on this too.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
If you want to go looking for the natural wine
and the cage free eggs and all the other stuff
out there and feel better about it, I'll eat my
cheaper stuff and drink my cheaper stuff and.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Feel great about me too.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
All Right, lots of other things coming up on the
show as I fill in and hang out for Chad
Benson during the holidays, and we'll be back toward the
tail end of next week, and I promise we'll have fun.
We'll we also talk about what is serious and in
the news. Luckily not as much serious because Darning it's
a holiday, and Biden, for some reason, is already on
vacation again up until about the end of his term.

(35:30):
All right, quick break a lot more Craig Collins filling
in on the Chad Benson Show. But actually, before that break,
I will tell you one of the other topics that
I'll cover in just a little bit in more detail,
will be chin implants. I saw that one of the
most likely things to be in higher demand in the
world of plastic surgery in twenty twenty five will be

(35:52):
chin implants, and I feel bad for all involved. You
probably can think of some of the reasons why not
usually a good move. There are other procedures that look
like they're going to get a tick up.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Good luck to all of us.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Quick break a lot more Craig Collins filling in on
the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you this holiday season.
Chad is back towards the tail end of next week.
I'll let's play some audio that's gone viral on social
medi even though it's from February of twenty eighteen. This
is actress Claire Danes. She is on Stephen Colbert's late

(37:07):
night show and she is talking to him about the
use of say the CIA in getting them ready to
do episodes of their TV show Homeland. I don't know
if Stephen Colbert was already aware of where this conversation
would go, because it does seem like he tries to
put an abrupt end to it as it's developing. And

(37:30):
the premise was that it was special to Homeland, to
this one TV show that you'd have this much access
to the CIA. But the answer actually demonstrates that it's
a whole lot of Hollywood that has a long standing
relationship with some of our intelligence communities, and it's the
intelligence communities that very much desire to have influence over

(37:51):
how they're portrayed in media, which seems bad. Actually, this
seems like the kind of thing that a lot of
people are worried about, the deeper you dive into it.
But here's a bit of the viral audio from an
interview again in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 15 (38:03):
Okay, so now one of the things that you do
do you do this every season where you go, get
to spend some time with some actual spies.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
We do.

Speaker 16 (38:11):
It's like the coolest part of my job.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Who sets that up? Who calls the CIA?

Speaker 8 (38:14):
Goes?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
We just like to come in and hang out.

Speaker 10 (38:16):
With you guys.

Speaker 16 (38:17):
Yeah, so Henry Burmel, who is one.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
So that's not how it goes, by the way, you're
about to hear the answer to it. But it's not
a phone call that's made for special privilege. It's a
thing that exists a year in and year out for
media beyond just one show.

Speaker 16 (38:29):
One of our founding fathers of Homeland, one of our writers,
passed away a number of years ago, but his dad
was in the CIA, and his cousin was a mentee
of his fathers and was also in the CIA. Very
accomplished person there, and he recently retired. But in his
retirement he curates this week long spy camp for US
producers and writers and.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Really, yeah is it?

Speaker 11 (38:51):
Like?

Speaker 16 (38:52):
Yeah, so we park ourselves in a club in Georgetown
and talk to like real spooks and you know, people
in need.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I love how uncomfortable everyone kind of is. Is this
getting described? Even Colbert isn't sure how he's supposed to
transition away from this, it sounds like for a moment
because Claar Dane's is saying, Yeah, we all go there,
we take notes, and we're told exactly how we're allowed
to portray the CIA more or less.

Speaker 16 (39:17):
Intelligence community and the State Department and journalists and people
who really, what do they.

Speaker 15 (39:21):
Tell you that, Like, what's the most surprising thing that
they've told you about their jobs or something you would
need to.

Speaker 16 (39:26):
Know for Well, every year it's different, right for a while,
and the climate has been has changed. This year it
was all about, you know, the distrust between the administration
and the intelligence world, and the intelligence community was suddenly
kind of allying it.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Okay, that's fascinating twenty eighteen Donald Trump and what he's saying,
and the intelligence community desires to have a a week
long sit down with people in Hollywood to tell them
how you need to fix that. You need to change
the perception of the distrust that exists between everyday Americans
and some of our agencies. These are the kind of

(40:02):
things that you'd like to see go away. These are
the kind of things where the voices of people in
one space are so willing to be manipulated by the
voices of people in another space, and the only way
that we know what the hell the truth is is
to have that go away.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
So I think this is fascinating. This is on the
heels of.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
A different conversation about Vivak Ramaswami and Elon Musk and
the tech sector specifically. The reason I bring this up
is because when you listen to Claire Danes and viral
audio resurfaced over the last couple of days just after
the holiday, but old from several years ago, you think
about how people like Elon and Vivek are going to

(40:41):
be at the forefront of hopefully dismantling some of that crap.
I know they're not actually going to have, you know,
authoritative roles, but hopefully a lot of the recommendations that
come from DOGE involve those destructing you know, destructions of
these you know, the way things are kind of systems
in the amount of excess spending that exists within said systems.

(41:03):
But anyway, Avik puts something else in social media. It
was a long post. It was about how the tech
sector does want the ability to continue to attract talent
beyond the United States, because, according to Vivek, who works
in some of these fields, and Elon who also works
in some of these fields. Americans are lazier than other
employees at high level jobs, specifically in tech. I'm paraphrasing

(41:28):
what they said, but a culture of mediocrity. I think
we're the exact words forravac used. This made a lot
of people man a lot of people who believe that
this isn't true and believe that Americans are certainly capable
of living up to whatever standard you ask them to
achieve at any job, which.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I do agree with.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I think capable is different than if it's actually occurring currently.
I want to play a little bit of audio though,
from a talking head on CNN sure, Michael Singleton, who
is a Republican strategist according to his reputation, although he's
on CNN and seems to have opinions that blurred lines
between typical conservative opinion and opinion that's more left leaning

(42:07):
but disguised as conservative. But in this issue, he does
seem to be echoing a lot of what say the
complaints on social media were about the position. Although I
do think this is a manufactured fight, I do think
media is desperate, mainstream media, left leaning media, whatever you
call it, to fracture the relationship between Donald Trump, Elon Musk,

(42:27):
Vivik Ramaswami, whatever you want to say, and the American people.
They do not want a uniform way of behaving that
exists from influential people on the conservative side of the
isle or Elon in general, just influential person with social
media company and just rich and then actual Americans who
behave based on some of the recommendations.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
That come from people.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
And I don't care if you're actually upset by what
Vivekan Elon said, That's fine. You're allowed to react negatively
to something said by people that at other times you
agree with. That's a whole part of this process. But
here's a little bit of what Shermichael Singleton said on
CNN about how bad this was, and I have a
different opinion of it.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Here we go.

Speaker 17 (43:10):
But Americans didn't vote for Direk Ramaswaman, they didn't vote
for Elon Musk. They voted for Donald Trump in part
because of his tough stands on immigration illegally, but also
because I assume they believe that the President elect wouldn't
increase the number of individuals coming into the country even
legally that could potentially negatively impact or disproportionately affect Americans

(43:32):
as it pertains to certain types of jobs. And so
again I go back to my original premise, we need
to focus on domestic skill development. I understand what former
Mayor Deblasio was saying, we got to bring people in
with the goal of getting to that point maybe in
the decade. So I get that, But why not limit
the cap where it's at and focus over the next
decade of increasing skills within our own people most Americans.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Here First, I'll answer the question that he just asked.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Why not limit the amount of people who can come
in from the outside in high skill jobs or positions,
because if they're the best people for the job, they're
the best people for the job, and that's for the
employer to decide. I don't want to win a role
myself anyway, and I assume a lot of Americans are
like this on any sort of technicality. I want to
be the best for the position that I'm hired to be,
and I want to be motivated to be the best.

(44:20):
If I'm worried I won't be, I want someone to
push me in the direction of being the best. And
I think that's really What was at the heart of
the statement made by Vivek and Elon or the threat
or whatever you want to call it, is that if
other people that are hired from outside of this country
are better suited at doing any job in this country,
then those are the people that actually should be allowed

(44:42):
legally to move into the United States. And we need
to do a better job of training our individuals, as
is said there, to not be weaker. And that's where
I think the whole Department of Education argument comes into
play here. The United States is failing as a country
to live up to what we should be up to
as far as the capability of our citizens on an

(45:03):
academic level or an educational level, and there's a lot
of reasons for that. One of them, I think, according
to many individuals within MAGA, Republican groups or just other
people that I wouldn't necessarily necessarily refer to that way.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Is the indoctrination stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And I know that sounds like a conservative buzzword or
some sort of like you know, conspiracy theory buzzword, but
it's not. That has nothing to do with teaching you
a basic skills, a math of things that you need
that you should value in our society, our fight right
now about the Department of Education, lowered standards, you name,

(45:40):
the thing is much further, you know, in a direction
of political argument than it is actual academic success and
achievement in the world after you're out of school. The
amount of people who graduate college in the United States
get a job and seem to have no idea what
they're doing, whatever the job is, is tremendously high. And
I do think Vivik was specific to the nineties and

(46:03):
the two thousands, meaning my generation, his generation, Millennials, more
so than people before them, because I do think work
ethic has easily changed in our society too, and so
getting back to that a means facing a challenge head on,
seeing the people who are being preferred for whatever the
job might be, and finding individuals who can rise up

(46:24):
to the level of success necessary to win out those positions. Again,
I don't want to win anything in my life based
on a technicality, and I think most people feel the
same way, regardless of how you feel about anything else.
Of course, fix a legal immigration, of course it's not
the same argument. It's ridiculous to think that it's even
remotely connected. If it's someone coming in legally who has

(46:45):
a skill set that the employer cannot find in abundance
in the United States. We have something else to fix.
We have something else to change that has nothing to
do with preventing the person from coming in, but actually
creating the scenario where they're not more valuable than the
people who are already here. And that takes tremendous overhaul
of the you know, or maybe just complete elimination of

(47:07):
the Department of Education to begin with, and a changing
of how that entire structure is built. And I'll say
one last thing about this, and I know if it's
controversial and you hate my opinion, well great, you get
the ability to do that is afforded to you by
the greatest country in the world. But one other thing
that I believe is if you're growing up in some
foreign country and you think to yourself that the best

(47:29):
way for you to succeed is to build a specific
skill set to wind up moving to the United States
and getting a high paying job, the motivation.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
For you is through the roof to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
If you're someone who lives in our country and thinks
that you know, you don't necessarily need that to be
your only ticket to success. Then the motivation is simply
not in the same way through the roof as it
is everywhere else in the world. It is a challenge
to be better than people that do not live here.
But we have to actually be better in order to
say that we just the jobs and that they don't

(48:01):
deserve them. But I just think it's such an interesting argument,
an interesting conversation, and mostly media created desire to split
apart the cohesiveness of Trump, Elon and people online a
mainstream you know, everyday Americans who actually respond by calling
their politician when stuff makes them mad. All right, well
take a break. A lot coming up. This is Craig

(48:23):
Collins filling in over the holidays on the Chad Benson Show.

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This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig Collins.
Filling in and Thursday night football.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
What a great game. No, actually it was terrible. It
was horrible.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
It was the lowest scoring game of the entire season,
the lowest scoring game since I think twenty eleven the
last time we saw a six to three, no touchdown
performance from both teams, no scoring at all in the
second half, you know, by anybody, The Bears had one
field goal, the Seahawks had two. Caleb Williams, the quarterback

(50:25):
for the Chicago Bears, gave an answer to the at
a press conference that I think is uniquely terrible when
he was asked about fans booing and how he responds
to the booing of fans. As a guy who's a
Yankee fan who understands that sometimes fans boo you, I've
always made this argument, a somewhat tongue in cheek, that
it's love. We're trying to booingly love you into playing

(50:49):
as well as we think you can play. It's like
a disappointed mom kind of thing, like I care and
I'm upset right now, but hopefully, based on how I feel,
you go ahead and perform up to the standard think
you're capable of next week for the Bears, next year.
It's been a terrible Bear for terrible year for the
Chicago Bears. But here's what Caleb said after the game.

Speaker 18 (51:08):
Yeah, I've only been here for you know, it's my
first year. So uh, you know they're frustrations you know,
go way longer back than you know then I've been here.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
You know, they're not really boeing me. They're bowing all
my teammates who've been here for more years than I have.

Speaker 18 (51:21):
You know, my job is to uh, you know, go
out there and win games. And you know, uh, we
don't focus on outside noise. You know, the fans are
you know, they're gonna cheer and maybe boost sometimes.

Speaker 19 (51:35):
They're going and you know, you you you you can't.

Speaker 10 (51:37):
React to that.

Speaker 18 (51:38):
It's not something that you know we we react to.

Speaker 16 (51:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
We we don't care about it. We don't really listen
to it. But also, you're bowing everybody but me because
I've only been here a year and these other guys
suck and they've.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Sucked for a while. I love every part of this.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
That's probably not gonna go well in any sort of
meeting uh with the team.

Speaker 11 (51:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
And the chat about it, the leader is saying that
I pushed the blame. I'll be on myself and just
ignore all the things that are not about me. A
great job, a terrible, terrible game. They got to change those.
The NFL can't allow for Bears matchups in week seventeen
to be Thursday night football games because the Bears are
atrocious and.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Need to not be on TV beyond locally.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
All right, quick break, a lot going on, Craig Collins
filling in on the Chad Benson Show. But honestly, and
I say that as a guy who lived in Illinois
for a while, I definitely not a Bears fan. I'm
actually a New York Football Giants fan, who somehow are
even worse at the professional sport that they play than
the Chicago Bears are. But seriously, man, like, what's the
point in allowing the national games to be played by

(52:44):
guys and teams that are uniquely awful? I know that
these schedules get made for in advance. You gotta change them.
You got to be able to adjust midway through the
season and be like, yeah, we don't need the Bears there.
We can change a different game to be a Thursday
night football game with weeks of notice because we're aware
of how terrible this matchup is way way back in

(53:04):
say October or something when you see it on the schedule.
But yeah, lowest scoring game in a football this year
three to six with no scoring at all in the
second half. I don't know anybody that really made it
through the entire game and enjoyed themselves. That's the kind
of thing where you watch a professional sporting event, you
turn it off and you go, oh, man, I'm glad

(53:24):
I'm not an athlete today. I don't know if you
go that far. Actually I doubt you go that far,
but nonetheless I found that pretty interesting. One other thing
that I'll touch on in a little bit. A woman
is mad at her husband for planning a special trip
for her birthday after years of complaining that he didn't
care enough about her birthday, and then him not having
a plan of what to do after they got to
the location that he had paid for them to go.

(53:46):
Every part of this is hilarious to me because this
is guy planning at its best and female anger at it. Well,
it's worse in some ways, at least for this guy.
I'll talk about that much more in a bit. Craig
Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 20 (54:12):
Such Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (54:37):

Speaker 2 (54:39):
My name is Craig Collins, filling in, Thrilled to be
with you a bunch of stuff to talk about. This
news is still bouncing around out there. I think this
first broke about a week ago or so. But I
just love the indignation in the way that it's being
reported on on I think this is Fox Business. A
mom filed a Freedom of Information Act request against a
Michigan public school, and they came back with a ridiculous

(55:02):
amount of money. They said it's going to cost to
actually fulfill said request.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Here is part of that audio.

Speaker 21 (55:08):
You better be willing to pay the big bucks if
you want to know what is going on at your
children's school. Yes, a Michigan mother's quest for transparency from
her school district came with a bill totaling thirty three
million dollars.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
All right, that's insane, First and foremost the payment for that.
They're like, yeah, we'll go ahead, we'll grant your request.
You're following up to see if schools are planning any
sort of retaliation against parents and families that they had
difficulty with during COVID. This was actually based on another
request that was made or another lawsuit filed by a

(55:44):
different parent, demonstrating that this school actually did record the
parents that they didn't like during COVID and the parents
that had feelings about certain COVID restrictions and whatnot. They
even broke down how they got to the thirty three
million dollars. And here's a little bit of that price hit.

Speaker 21 (56:01):
That school district claim that it will require reviewing approximately
twenty one and a half million emails. Okay, that would
take an estimated seven hundred and seventeen thousand hours of
umber at a rate of get this, forty six.

Speaker 20 (56:17):
Dollars an hour.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Okay, that's sweet, first and foremost.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
If I get to sit down with twenty one million emails,
I get paid forty six bucks an hour, and I
get to work for the next seven hundred and seventeen
thousand hours to get to the answers that apparently are
difficult to find. I'm in a sweet gig. I can
really take my time with that whole thing, and I'm
getting paid a crap ton of money for it. Essentially,
you're only looking for any sort of potential retaliatory actions,

(56:43):
and the school said they had to review all of
their emails twenty one point five million.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
That sounds nuts.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Or the other thing that could be true here is
that it's that significant of an issue, because honestly, like
if you if you challenge somebody on something in society
and you're like, hey, I think you're doing this, and
I think it's bad and I want information about it,
and especially in the world we live where the Freedom
of Information Act request is often a time to get

(57:12):
the most honest information, and they come back with, all right,
we're going to look into your request, but it's going
to take us looking at everything we've ever said, because
we're pretty sure there's that stuff in there that are
obviously they're trying to make this overly complicated on purpose
to make it not worth the time and effort to
go ahead and continue with the plan to challenge the school,

(57:33):
which is also really damaging or demonstrating that they're trying
to hide something. But this is just insane, and I
do love that this story is still out there because
people are asking to create a GoFundMe this holiday season
to get to the thirty three million dollars in order
to have this thing happen. I don't think it's got

(57:53):
very much funding. I don't think it's very far off
the ground, and I wouldn't recommend donating to it per
se but I just I find amusing that this is
the sort of cat and mouse game that people play
in some of these worlds, because the school has already
done enough damage to demonstrate or show its parents the
community that they are definitely hiding something, that they definitely

(58:15):
are guilty of, some sort of crime, some sort of issue.
And granted, they've already been caught more than once doing
things they shouldn't be doing, So this isn't new information.
This isn't, you know, markedly different than what it's been
so far. So for that reason too, I think this
is even more of a significant issue or discussion because
of well, how terrible it all looks and is. I

(58:38):
can't even put myself in the situation to, you know,
react how I would probably react if I were the parent,
if I were the person that were sent a thirty
three million dollar bill in order to get very basic information,
if the school is trying to harm me, or harm
anyone like me that they identified as a bad person

(58:59):
just a couple of years ago.

Speaker 10 (59:00):
Go all right.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Another story out there that I thought was interesting. There
was a CNN debate, a back and forth discussion about
Biden and all this stuff he's done during his time
in office, especially to enrich the lives of his family
members himself, And it devolved into chaos a little bit
because as the main host, Abby Phillip is trying to say,

(59:24):
you know, there's no proof, there's no anything as far
as Biden's concerned with everything that Hunter was up to,
all of that is just a distraction. And two of
the people on the same panel with her are pointing
out some of the very real pieces of proof that
demonstrate how damaging this whole thing is to Biden himself.
And as they keep going, eventually she calls for a

(59:46):
time out and a commercial break because I can't keep
arguing these facts. They're getting too powerful for me. But
I will play a little bit of this audio because
it went viralof of.

Speaker 19 (59:56):
Joe Biden enriching himself. I take his brother and his.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I'll give you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I'll give you use direct materialized.

Speaker 19 (01:00:03):
Otherwise I'll give you the direct colleague could have produced
the evidence that he did.

Speaker 10 (01:00:08):
He did.

Speaker 22 (01:00:08):
A Chinese company transferred money to a shell company owned
by Hunter and Jim Biden that then transferred money directly
to Jim and Sarah Biden's shell company that then transferred
the money to Jim and Sarah's personal account, who then
immediately wrote a check for forty thousand dollars to Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Wait a minute, that all happened as a lot of
us already knew, actually, of course, and I think the
forty thousand dollars was supposed to be some sort of
payment of a loan that was given, some payback of
a loan. Totally happenstance that they had the money because
of the connections that Hunter Biden made that he's now
been in quite a bit of trouble for, all of
which seemed to be a selling influence of his father,

(01:00:54):
politically valuable person either the vice president or in between
or whatever else he was doing. All of this Again,
the paper trail pretty damaging, but totally irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
More we.

Speaker 19 (01:01:08):
Have to what I'm saying is that Trump was president
for four years, he wanted to charge Joe Biden. Why
did the charges dot com? And I think that still
remains an open question if there is something illegal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Actually, part of that he was trying to work with
Ukraine to get more information, and that's one of the
things that they tried to impeach him, or well the
House at least did impeach him. The Senate rejected it
over was his discussion with certain business dealings and things
involving the bidens that happened in Ukraine. And I think
it was to actually bring charges against Joe which were

(01:01:42):
being which were they were finding is more difficult because
the defense in Washington was if Joe doesn't know about it,
it's fine, which apparently was so much of a defense
they put him in the office as president and then
didn't tell him stuff for four years as he got
to be president too, which is scary. But here just
a little bit more of this because I loved it
for going viral, and how Abby Phillips gets owned on

(01:02:04):
our own show and then has to take a break.

Speaker 19 (01:02:06):
Should he charges on the basis of what you're saying
and there have not been, well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
He just put an yeah, eleven year time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
He just guys, Guys, stop stop saying things about how
he's preventing charges from coming forward when Trump is in charge,
because he did pardon his son for eleven years that
made no sense to anybody, and for any crime, even
ones he hasn't even been you know, tried for or
you know, accused of during that period of time. Which

(01:02:37):
is also, I don't know, strange odd to say, hey, hunter,
Biden may or may not have been committing crimes from
twenty fourteen on, and as president and his dad, I
have the power to say he didn't do it and
leave him alone and stop investigating this entirely, although they
can subpain to him now and ask for information about
the things they're curious about, because darn it, he's no

(01:02:58):
longer in jeopardy of being tried him, so there is
no way to plead the Fifth Amendment. I do love
every part of this, though, in the back and forth discussion,
because yeah, there's a lot of smoke and to some
people a decent amount of fire, but to the average
you know, left leaning democrat, irrelevant, and even more so
than that, we refuse to admit this exists at all.

(01:03:21):
And actually, my other favorite part, one other thing I
should probably say about this, just because it's another you know,
big to me issue with everything, is that when Biden
faced those charges and I know I bring this up
more than probably most radio hosts do, but I can't
get over it, when he faced those charges for his
classified documents issues, the reason that he wasn't actually you know,

(01:03:44):
found to be in more trouble is because they said
that he was too broken, that his brain was too
far gone, and that a jury would have sympathy for
him and not accuse him of crimes that he evidently
committed and could have been proven to have committed in
a court of law.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Crazy. Crazy to say that when they did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Crazy the democratic reaction to how horrible that was and
politically motivated it was, and how obviously true it seems
to be now, because that would probably be the biggest
argument of a Joe Biden today if any charges were
brought against him for anything, is you know, my brain
doesn't work and you can't really hold me accountable for
the actions of a younger me because I no longer
have any way to understand what I did. And that

(01:04:26):
guy's still the president, he's on vacation, and he's still
in charge of this country for a short amount of
additional time. That is insane on a whole nother level.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
But all right, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I love that it went viral, and I love that
you actually do have two people sitting on a panel
on CNN willing to say the thing out loud that
Abby Phillip is trying to pretend doesn't exist, because oh
boy does it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
And it's just one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
There are other moments where a money trail eventually landed
with Joe and people said, well, that's paying him back
for this car thing, or that's paying him back for
this other thing. Nothing to do with the fact that
the money is somehow a you know, his cut of
the money they just got from the foreign company or
the foreign power that has a relationship with Hunter Biden

(01:05:11):
that he's now been found guilty of a crime for
and then pardon for. All right, quick break a lot more.
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You stink like fear and white male privilege.

Speaker 19 (01:06:35):
To me, I do often out myself verbally as a younger.

Speaker 12 (01:06:40):
My pronouns are they them?

Speaker 22 (01:06:41):
And I'm proud to be a gender.

Speaker 10 (01:06:45):
Are you so bid?

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
It's not a great way to use your white privilege.

Speaker 9 (01:06:54):
Some people got it, some people don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
You're listening to the chat Fensive show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
This is the Chad Benson Show. My name is Craig
Collins filling in thrilled to be with you in New
York City. So it's first white Christmas in fifteen years.
That's a topic that's out there in the world. I
think CBS News and other places reported on it the
other day. I'll keep saying this, and I know it
seems silly, but I can't help myself. Every time we

(01:07:21):
talk about hot weather, overly hot weather, seasonably, you know different,
we all add, well not all of us, some of
us in media add the narrative of global warming. I
want to be the only guy in media who's talking
about like the next ice age every time we have
overly cold weather or something happened we haven't seen in
a while, even if it is December and it's New

(01:07:41):
York and it snowed on Christmas Day, I want to
be the only guy yelling like, we're all gonna get
frozen again. That's the end of society as we know it,
just because it'd be fun. I don't believe in it.
I don't care to talk about it. I actually do
think some global warming things are even real. I just
love media freakout. I want a trailblaze in my own
way now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
But that's it. That's all I'll say about this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I'm sure it's not going to happen, and if it
ever does, I'm probably getting fired from a whole lot
of places. I would hate to be called the dude
who thinks the ice age is happening again. Unless everyone
knew that it was a joke, then I'd be thrilled.
But anyway, let's move on. No more planning of what
I'm going to do next in my career.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Let's talk a little bit about drunk surfing and kayaking.
Apparently that's a problem in South Korea, so much so
that in twenty twenty five they're going to make it illegal.
My favorite part of this story is that the coast
guard in Korea would have to get you to stop
whatever you're doing, pull your kayak over or your surfboard,

(01:08:41):
and then they would breathalyze you. And if you refuse
the breathalyzer, you are in trouble. And if you don't
refuse the breathalyzer and you're drunk, you get a fine
of like seven hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Why is this a problem? Why are there a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Significant amount of people kayaking and surfing hammered? And what
is the danger to everybody else in that world. Are
we having, you know, kayak on kayak pile ups?

Speaker 7 (01:09:04):
Here?

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Are there problems with surfers running into each other? What
is the challenge? Why are they facing it? And why
is the survival story? I have questions. I don't necessarily
have answers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I would also say as a guy that kind of
knows how to surf, not as a humble brag, just
putting it out there that depending on the day and
the waves, if you saw me doing it, you might
think I'm hammered, and I'm not. I'm just not as
good as some of the other people are at it,
and I'm getting closer to forty, which makes me sad.
But I think that that's going to be a caveat too.

(01:09:36):
Who you think is actually hammered first, who has the
skill set to make them look hammered is going to
have to be a debate As you're pulling someone over
in a kayak and asking them to do a breathalyzer.
It's just hilarious to me for whatever reason. And then finally,
I like this story a lot too. A woman wrote
into one of those Dear Abbey places to complain about

(01:09:57):
her husband She said that for years her husband had
has underwhelmed her on her birthday, not really done a lot,
not done things that she really liked. Essentially, she's upset
and complaining in a way that some guys will probably
not take well. But her husband took it well enough
to plan a trip for her for her birthday this year.

(01:10:17):
He flew her to a remote destination. And then here's
the problem. According to this woman, he didn't have any plans.
Once he got there, he thought that that was plan
enough and they'd come up with it themselves. She wanted itinerary,
she wanted you know, dinners, planned events, they were going
to go to money save to buy other items well

(01:10:38):
on seid trip. This sounds like a typical dude hearing
the complain of a woman and doing exactly what he
thinks the complain is about and then still failing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I've been in this situation, I know about this situation before.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
And she's mad and complaining online and a lot of
people are criticizing her for being too demanding. My favorite
was the reaction of the guy that she shared after
the crummy trip that he paid for for her birthday.
And then they got home and it was actually her birthday,
I guess, and he didn't do anything that day, so
she was mad about that too. He said, you don't
get a birthday week. Everybody gets a birthday, you know,

(01:11:13):
day celebration.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
I did yours. I'm not sure what else you need
me to do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
This relationship's just doomed to be honest, I wear at
a point I'm not gonna blame just the lady if
the man has failed to make her birthday feel special,
that's the thing, I guess. But anyway, I think this
relationship has been doomed for quite some time, and maybe
communication is at the forefront of getting things to be
a little bit better, so that you know, if you're
going to plan a trip for somebody for their birthday

(01:11:40):
because you've asked them to do it, that you also
should plan the events you're going to go to so
that they feel as though you put in enough effort
with this kind of thing, although I would feel enough
effort was done the minute the ticket was purchased, because
you know, fancy place, explore a place together. That sounds
good enough to me and maybe good enough to a
lot of people, but you decide. The internet was somewhat split,
but mostly in favor of the dude on this topic.

(01:12:02):
A quick break. A lot to talk about today, both
serious and silly. Chad Benson is going to be back
late next week after the holiday. Craig Collins filling in
on The Chad Benson Show. And I do wonder one
other thing about this, like how bad have the previous
birthdays been that you go all the way to buy
the vacation trip as the next birthday?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Like has he really done nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Has it been like a card and then not even
like a gift card inside of it a version of
a thing. Where's he at financially? There's a lot of
questions that I think would help excuse or maybe make
him seem guiltier of failing to live up to whatever
standard she wanted. But I just don't know that stuff
because they didn't give me that information. Quick break a
lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Lots of stuff
to talk about. I know this is a few days old,
although the celebration is going on now. Anybody that celebrates Kwansa,
which is a holiday that was invented in nineteen sixty
six by a person that said stuff like Jesus was

(01:13:47):
insane and also that Christianity is a white religion that
black people should shun.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
That's real.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
The creator of Kwansa actually is also still alive, if
it gives you a sense of how new of a
holiday that is comparatively to other ones. But that doesn't
stop the Vice president from claiming that she's been celebrating
it since she was a little kid. She was born
two years before its creation and about fifteen to sixteen
years before it became even something that a lot of

(01:14:14):
people were aware of. How much less we're celebrating it
takes another ten years or so for it to even
be acknowledged by people as something that a lot of
people actually celebrate. Granted today, whatever you do, whatever your celebration,
your holiday thing is, whatever reason you celebrate it, I
don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
That's not something I'm telling you you shouldn't do or whatever.
And probably a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Of people who celebrate this holiday have very little understanding
of the creation of it or the people behind it,
which probably also matters, but nonetheless, I do want to
play this audio. It went viral back on Christmas Eve
and has been bouncing around since then because of how
untrue it sounds, or if it is true. If Kamala,
from a very young age, shortly after the creation of

(01:14:58):
Kwanza had been celebrating with her family in a large
gathering sort of way, it says that her family might
be closely connected to what are typically called black nationalists
or even a radicals in a certain space, a specific space. Again,
people who believe things like Christianity is a white religion
and you shouldn't be a part of it if you're black,

(01:15:19):
because you need to shun it and shun things that
are from white people. That is real thoughts and beliefs
of people who created the holiday to begin with, not
necessarily people who celebrate it today.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
I'm just saying, but here we go. Here's Kamala Harris
most likely lying us.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
You know, my sister and I we grew up celebrating
Kwansa every year our family, in our extended family, we
would gather around across multiple generations and we tell stories.
The kids would sit on the carpet and the elders
would sit in chairs and we would like the candles,
and of course afterwards have a beautiful meal, okay, And

(01:15:56):
of course there was always the discussion of the Seven Principles.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Always those were things that were happening.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Again, this was created two years after you were born.
By the time you're three, four or five years old,
this is barely a thing that anyone knows about. And again,
it takes a long time for it to be something
that people know about. So you are a little kid
sitting on the floor as the elders are sitting in
their chairs, celebrating this holiday like it's not brand new.
I imagine the people that even celebrated it those first
few years in the sixties and seventies. I talked about

(01:16:24):
it as a brand new thing, because I don't think
it would have been introduced to them, and people would
have thought of this as like, oh, this has been
going on forever. Don't worry about that. That part's you know,
been thought of already or figured out. I imagine people
had to even in some ways be aware of who
created it. But nonethe last, this is what she says
she did as a kid, and darn it, A lot
of people just don't care. I'm not trying to vilify

(01:16:47):
Kwanza specifically, by the way, for anyone that wants to
write hate letters and stuff to us. I'm just telling
you actual true things. Ane of the stuff I said
was opinion. It's all simple facts. The person who created
it had very radical beliefs in a lot of ways,
and Kamala Harris was very unlikely to have celebrated it.
But darn it, it doesn't matter. Let's move on to

(01:17:07):
other things. Some of the other things out there that
I thought were interesting. There's a story out of Chicago.
Felony theft charges in Chicago have skyrocketed. This is after
Kim Fox, the da who's probably most famous for trying
to get Jesse Smolette to not be in trouble for
anything before relenting in that case, but also was backed

(01:17:28):
by George Soros, the boogeyman that gets talked about on
the right, but then also the left pretends is not
a guy that has tremendous influence over democratic politics, which
is equally or more so hilarious. But anyway, she was
replaced by O'Neill Burke and things have actually changed. You
change the threshold for a felony theft charge to three

(01:17:51):
hundred bucks from its previous amount of a thousand. This
is similar to what's going on in California now that
you're seeing more and more people in trouble for or
a theft, because darn it, it is a crime, and
you probably should hold people responsible for committing crime so
that they don't commit them all over the place. But
Chicago now one hundred and fifty four percent increase in

(01:18:13):
these types of cases being seen by judges. That seems good,
That seems important in helping to protect people. Because here's
the thing, And I was talking about this a little
bit the other day, and certainly I think it's still
a valuable discussion for a lot of people to think about.
The need for policy and rhetoric to intersect is so significant.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
On the left. You can't just have the rhetoric. You
have to have the policy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
You can't say that DEI is all about hiring people
that look different if you don't have the policy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
That forces people to do that, and all of that
is flawed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
All of that is broken because you should be able
to say out loud, the best person gets the job,
and that should be it. And if the best person
looks a certain way. Darn it, that's not important, because
that's not why we're hiring them. We're hiring them because
they're the best at the job. But nonetheless, these rhetoric
moments that have to intersect with their policies is the
biggest reason they've lost so many voters in my opinion

(01:19:09):
and the opinion of many other people. It's not necessarily
just the fact that, you know, they don't have the
air apparent in the party like Donald Trump is to
Republicans and Barack Obama was years ago for Democrats. It's
because they've shifted so far to the left that they
have to run people who are actually senile into the

(01:19:30):
office of president so they can control his behavior and
his actions, because otherwise there's a whole bunch of politicians
that probably wouldn't do other things they want them to do,
or at least wouldn't do it the way they want
them done. So that's their challenge. Their problem is finding
the right spokesperson for the far left messages that they're
going to shove down the throats of everyday Americans And
hope everybody's super happy about that. All right, there's another

(01:19:53):
piece of audio out there that I like quite a bit.
This piece of audio is from Jordan Peterson. He was
sitting on a TV show, I believe it was Fox,
having a conversation about what they were calling the Daniel
Penny effect, and I'm not even sure that I would
refer to it the same way they did, But essentially,
a whole bunch of places, Chicago being one of them,

(01:20:16):
for quite some time, were totally fine with criminals feeling
more confident than ever and citizens being more afraid than
ever because criminals were seen as victims. And so because
of that, leniency was necessary and almost important at the
way that people went after these kind of issues. That
is starting to change, because when you open up your

(01:20:40):
system to the abuse that was going on there, you
wind up seeing a whole lot of abuse, a whole
lot of issues, and people taking advantage of the leniency
of our society. And I just think the way that
that Jordan Peterson said it specifically was uniquely powerful because
if you're asking someone a question of out how many
things are broken and what we do to fix them,

(01:21:03):
and the answer is you have to actually believe the
consequences are significant enough to not try the crime at all.
That's a pretty good position to take and how to
get us, you know, to a safer society. But here's
some of that back and forth, actually play it where
Peterson says exactly what the issue actually is and just
quickly again the setup to the question, the setup to

(01:21:24):
the conversation itself, is are these lenient policies causing a
lot of criminals to be much less fearful than they
should be of the crimes they're committing? And are the
citizens themselves much more fearful because darn it, the crimes
seem like they're okay.

Speaker 7 (01:21:39):
Yeah, that seems to me to be perfectly reasonable. That's
what happens when you treat criminals like they're victims. Now,
the right, you know, the right tends to call for
longer jail sentences, and that's not necessarily effective, but probability
of being caught is very effective. Criminals are rational actors
by and large, and they take risk into effect, as
we've seen in California with the waves of shoplifting emerging

(01:22:02):
after the Californian government so foolishly decided that any shoplifting
under a thousand dollars wouldn't be prosecuted. Well, anybody with
a criminal band is going to feel that it's a
field day. So the last thing that governments could do
is increase the probability that criminals will actually suffer the
consequences of their actions and stop treating them as if
they're victims. The victim idea with regards to criminality is

(01:22:26):
unbelievably naive now most specially.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Yeah, it's the kind of thing that allows you to
take advantage of someone if you can convince them that
you're the good guy. Whatever you've done, even if it's bad,
is not really your fault. You let people do worse stuff.
I actually think the same part of the argument there
can be used in the world of politics. I do
think a lot of people who inevitably vote on either

(01:22:49):
side of the aisle, but I would typically say this
is more in aspect of being someone who votes a
democratic or.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
To the left.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Is this failed belief that somehow your people, you or side,
are just better humans, and that because of that trust
you've put in the politicians that you put in place,
because you think they're the character people, they take advantage
of you. They do things behind closed doors that they
tell you they're not doing, They do things in front
of you that they tell you they're not doing. They

(01:23:17):
do all kinds of stuff that doesn't benefit you and
does benefit them, and then they keep convincing you to
stop paying attention, and that only the other side is
paying attention because they're evil and trying to manipulate things
or create conspiracy that doesn't exist, when in reality, the
trust itself alone is the thing that allows people to
do so much wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Our system is broken.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Most people believe that it depends on where you point
as far as what part of the system you think
is the cause of the issue. But most people think
that a lot of our system is broken. And the
crazy far left people that want to tear everything down
are fairly close in their way of thinking to the
people on the right who want to tear down specific things,

(01:24:00):
which I find interesting too, but nonetheless, of finding a
way in our society to move forward to benefit the
actual people with power that would be me and you,
the voters, seems good. And actually, there's one other piece
of audio out there. It is in German, so I'm
not going to play it, but it's the German president
saying how it's bad that the influence has gotten so

(01:24:21):
significant beyond the politicians outside of their control and in
spaces like x like Twitter, on social media, and with
voters demonstrating that they agree with the positions of people
like Elan a Musk or whoever. And I think that's
the most elite thing I've ever heard in politics, Like,
the most insane elitist thing that you could possibly say,

(01:24:43):
actually is how dare these regular people want to interfere
in the process for us, the duly elected officials, by
them that we want to do our own thing with
and have them out of the picture. All they do,
the only thing they're allowed to do is rubber stamp
us into our position of power, and then from that
point until we need them again, they have to be
left out of our discussion. That's insane, and that's utterly

(01:25:07):
flawed and broken as well, of course, so that needs
to be changed. That needs to get better, very very soon,
relatively quickly. All right, on that note, we'll take a break.
We've got a lot to talk about throughout the show today,
a lot to discuss that's serious and also some stuff
that's relatively hopefully silly, because Darning it's a holiday chat
is back just after the holiday, just after the new year.

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Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
My name is Craig Collins, filling in producer Phil, and I,
much like everybody else, probably out there having a chit
chat off the air about what we'd do with one
point one five billion dollars. Baby, I don't know who's in.
I assume a whole lot of people are in on
the Mega Millions that got over a billion dollars after
nobody won the other day. The drawing is today. What's

(01:27:21):
funny about this to me, and I've I've mentioned this before,
is the idea that the odds somehow got even worse.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
And that's why we're seeing the giant jack box all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Because the lottery people notice, They're like, hey, wait a minute,
if the lotto gets over a billion, a whole lot
of people buy tickets all at once. Because most of
us have that rule that like, how can you say
no to a two dollars shot at a life changingly
and ridiculously changing amount of money? So you go ahead
and do it, And so they made the odds even

(01:27:53):
even more terrible. I will say that I bought two tickets,
one for me and one for the missus. However, I
did not tell the misses one ticket's mine and one
ticket's hers, because on the off chance she wins and
I don't, I don't want to have that conversation. Not
that I think she'd do it to me, but I
can picture a version of it may be occurring at
some point. But yeah, one point one five billion dollars,

(01:28:13):
what would you do? Most people in America are asking
themselves that question, as a whole lot of people are
buying lottery tickets and hoping for the best. But for
a vast majority of us, it's not going to work out.
And that's totally fine. It's the thrill of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
I want to win. I want all that money, and
I would buy ridiculous stuff. Well, most immediately I know
that I would not all of it. I wouldn't waste it.
I'd go annuity to force myself to not have all
the money at once. I don't care if you think
it's the better idea the worse idea. But with the
first payment I get or the second payment I get,
I'm buying some fancy vehicles and some fancy ways to
get around.

Speaker 12 (01:28:49):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
On that note, and with some serious stuff coming up
in just a bit, this is Craig Collins filling in
over the holidays hoping for a billion point one five
billion on the Chad Benson Show. One point one five billion,
I think is the way that I'm supposed to say that.
I wonder what kind of conversation you'd have if you won,

(01:29:10):
like write it first, I do wanted that like with
whoever you talk to first. For me, it'd be the wife,
because we'd win the money together. I wonder if you
even know who the phone call would be too, if
you're someone that would win this without anybody around you,
and who you'd tell and how you do it. Mostly
they tell you to keep it a secret, to not
tell anybody, because you don't want to get inundated with

(01:29:31):
the phone calls of people asking for some of that
money for themselves. You want to be able to do
that on your end, hand it off to whoever you
think is deserving or whoever you want to change the
life of and help within your friends and family circle,
because you'd have a lot of power to do a
lot of good if you so desired. I just I
think every part of that is sort of amazing, though,
because I don't know many people in my life that

(01:29:55):
would be able to hide acquiring a billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Even if they could do it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Not lee, because like stuff will change, You'll be hanging
out with them one day, and something about the interaction
will be marketedly different because all of a sudden they're
worth a ridiculous amount of money, even though they would
claim that they're acting exactly the same. No one, and
I mean no one on this earth would do nothing
with the money and just let it sit in a
bank account somewhere. And that's when you'd start to know

(01:30:22):
something's up with your buddy who used to be worried
about going to McDonald's and getting the extra fry and
now doesn't care about anything. Quick break a lot more.
Craig Allin's filling in on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 10 (01:30:48):
Such Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you over the holidays.
Definitely feels like it's a bit slower of a news
day than some other times out there in society when
less is being talked about in the world of politics.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
And that's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
That seems kind of good, maybe so much so that
this is a big story, at least according to some
a NASA flew its closest satellite ever to the Sun
and we learned nothing. I mean, okay, they might probably
say we learned some stuff, but we're still three point
eight million miles from the solar surface of the Sun.

(01:31:50):
That is the safest distance we can orbit it at
with the Parker Solar Probe, which is what we fired
out there. But anyway we're talking about this is a
big achievement because it's the closest ever approach to a
thing that's a burning fireball. And again, what we've actually
noticed at this distance compared to previous distances nothing, There's

(01:32:10):
nothing better about that, you know. I want to be
on one of those teams of scientists that study a
thing where you evidently know what the outcome is going
to be going in or you're just messing around for
the sake of messing around, Because that feels like what
this is when you're spending millions of dollars to build
a thing that's going to get, you know, slightly closer
to a burning fireball, that's not going to give us

(01:32:32):
any additional information. We're not sure, like you do the meetings,
I imagine with the people who are paying the checks,
and they're like, well, what are we going to learn
if we spend this amount of additional dollars on helping
you make this more of a fireproof item, And you're like,
we don't know. Could be a lot of stuff that
we learn, or it could be basically nothing. And I
get to feel as though I've achieved a thing just

(01:32:53):
because of the difficulty of it and not because of
the benefit of it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
And darn it, that's all I need. I want to
be on one of those teams.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
I didn't do enough in school to be asked to
be involved, and probably based on this radio segment alone,
I will never be asked to contribute to any of
those type of scientific studies.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
And darn it, that's shame on you, not shame on me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
I'm not upset about it all right, other things out
there that are not as stupid, or I'm not being
quite as sarcastic as I was being just there. There
is this debate about Elon Musk vivig Ramaswami. They're ties
to trump the closeness of those relationships, and then also
the way in which Elon specifically can leverage the American people,

(01:33:33):
or at least a percentage of them, based on the
social media platform he owns now X or Twitter. And
this is scaring not just a lot of politicians, but
a lot of media. And remember, a lot of media
is already intimidated and afraid, if that's the right word,
of digital versions of their jobs not being done by

(01:33:54):
companies like them. National News is the most upset of
any news organization out there. That most Americans now care
about somebody on Twitter more than their a local television
station or even the national station. And what they're saying
about the news of the day, whoever that person might
be on Twitter is different or on x is different

(01:34:14):
for all of us. But I find that to be
at the heart of all of this. There's this fear
that that influence, that power dynamic shifting away from the
few to the many, even if that's a rosy or
naive way to say what's happening, because I know a
lot of the left would claim that Elon Musk is
now just brainwashing sheeple to do whatever he wants, But

(01:34:37):
I don't think that's true. I do think that a
lot of people are willing to evaluate the message and
the messenger more so than they were before and find
what they think the truth to be, whether it's right
or wrong. I think more people are willing to do
a little extra homework, and so that's why I find
all of this quote unquote controversy kind of ridiculous. But

(01:34:57):
you had a talking head on CNN as sure, Michael
Singleton Republican Strategists. Sometimes sounds like he has liberal positions
on stuff too, because he pops up so often on CNN,
But he did say this about the Elon Musk Vivik
Ramaswami controversy. If you don't know both Elon and Vivek

(01:35:18):
said that the tech industry still needs to have talent
that comes from beyond the United States and would like
to see an expansion of some visas to enable that,
because the US isn't really churning out the type of
professional that they need in their unique place in society,
offending a whole lot of people in America, probably people
who also aren't qualified to get those jobs. So I

(01:35:42):
would say that I'm not trying to be offensive. I
would just say that I'm fairly certain that there is
some truth to this argument that we don't have the
best of the best in certain fields and we can
change that, and I think that's the true message of
all this. But nonetheless, the statement of those things themselves
has a carently caused a whole lot of controversy. Here's
part of that take on CNN.

Speaker 17 (01:36:03):
Didn't vote for Ramaswaman, they didn't vote for Elon Musk.
They voted for Donald Trump in part because of his
tough stance on immigration illegally, but also because I assume
they believe that the President elect wouldn't increase the number
of individuals coming into the country even legally that could
potentially negatively impact or disproportionately affect Americans as it pertains

(01:36:25):
to certain types of jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
What I would first say is, what did we say
about people who assume what do we say about that situation. Yeah,
he might be right to an extent that there are
individuals who would hope that America First means America first
in a whole lot of ways. But the truth is,
and this is probably the most American way to say it,
in my opinion, is I want to win because I'm
actually the best. I don't want to win because I'm

(01:36:47):
not the best. And no matter what I'm competing at,
i want to win because I'm the most deserving of
whatever the thing is that I'm going after. And So,
if the United States is not cultivating the most professionals
that are necessary in certain spaces tech, whatever it might be,
Let's do a better job. Let's raise individuals who have

(01:37:07):
a mindset of success in those places from jump and
there are other countries in the world that are doing that,
that are pushing They're individuals who are maybe high achievers
academically or wherever. To focus on that is like, that's
my goal. My goal is to be a very valuable
tech professional that gets a job in the United States.

(01:37:30):
And the goal for a lot of us, depending on
what you ask of the everyday younger American, is to
be a social media influencer or to be this or
be that. There is a cultural issue that does exist
to a degree, but it's not unsolvable. So again, I
think that part of the inflation of this controversy is
the dark desire.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
I feel like a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Tinfoil hat guy as I say that I'm not one,
but I don't care if you think I am. But
it is the CD desire. I'm going to say it
that way to call lause a break between the system
that has already made a lot of politicians and a
lot of media mad. And that system is Donald Trump
to Elon Musk, to Twitter, to X to the American

(01:38:11):
people who then call their state politicians or call their
representatives and ask them for the change that they're seeing
talked about on social media. It helped change a spending
bill to be a microscopic version of what it was
going to be before. It could help do other things.
If it can't be broken as a system and a
whole lot of people who want it broken, it benefits

(01:38:32):
just them and not us. And again, I know that
it sounds naive to say it that way, and I
know a lot of people would think that the over
influence or the over value of influence that Elon himself
actually has, that he could essentially create anything into a controversy,
and his you know soldiers, his army of swifty like

(01:38:54):
individuals would just.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Do his bidding. But I do think that's not entirely true.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
I do think in some of these space he happens
to be a reflection of the beliefs of people that
are you know, worked up when he says something online,
more so than the instigator of said belief. Most Americans
do not want the government to overspend. We don't want pork,
we don't want stupid decisions that make everything cost more

(01:39:19):
money for us. So if your message to us is, hey,
let's fix this so it's not as bad as it
looks right now, I think a lot of people get
on board with that, And so I think that's an
easy message to get people to understand and relate to,
which is part of the issue too, because there's one
other thing out there that I thought was pretty significant,
and it's this discussion about how far the left has

(01:39:40):
gone and how the right is starting to encompass more.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Of the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
I talked about it a little bit myself the other day,
and some of the insanity things that occur out there
in the world, and there is one decent, you know,
audio explanation or audio demonstration of this.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
It's not an easy topic.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
It's a fairly serious topic to but a California judge
has ruled that a man who allegedly raped a woman
in prison is allowed to be referred to as a woman,
as a she, as a her during a trial because
the individual quote deserves dignity. It is a horrible topic,

(01:40:18):
a horrible story, but there's a mental exercise that would
play out if you continue to refer to someone as
a woman and accuse that person of raping another woman,
that might change This sounds horrible to say it, but
it's actually true, might change the perception of how horrible
of a crime it is, or et cetera, et cetera.

(01:40:38):
To the jury as they're hearing the argument. As opposed
to a man who is locked in a jail with
women because he claims to be a woman that then
went ahead and sexually attacked and raped someone, that would
be a different discussion in order to get to the
point of how wrong or how horrible this is. And
this is essentially placating some of the insanity that exists

(01:41:01):
in our society because somehow it's claimed that it makes
us better. And I think these are the things that
alienate people more than bring people in to whatever side
of the isle you're on. But here I can play
a little bit of the audio of a discussion about
this horrible topic that demonstrates just how far mentality has
gone in trying to, you know, accept every opinion on

(01:41:23):
every issue, so much so that you might actually help
someone in a courtroom who is allegedly, you know, going
to be accused of a horrific crime.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
Week, fifty two year old state prisoner Tremaine Carrol must
be referred to with she her pronouns because Carol identifies
as a woman, but the district attorney believes the defendant
is abusing the system.

Speaker 13 (01:41:44):
This is a person who's not a woman in any
sense of the word.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
In March, da Sally Marino charged Carol for rape allegedly
committed while incarcerated at the Central California Women's Facility in Chauchilla.

Speaker 21 (01:41:56):
After his first sellmate became pregnant and was moved to
say angelus to other cellmates of his complained.

Speaker 5 (01:42:03):
That he had raped them.

Speaker 8 (01:42:05):
So we have filed rape charges against this inmate, So.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
I want to stop it right there. So a person
who looks like a man, who hasn't changed anything about
their appearance, their body, whatsoever, to not be a man,
but says they're a woman, so that they're now jailed
with women in California, wants to be referred to a
woman in a rape trial after already doing the same thing,
so much so that at least one individual got pregnant

(01:42:31):
to other people.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
This is horrific, as the story goes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
And a weird, weird way to you know, allow someone
to have some sort of advantage, however small, in a
courtroom in order to hopefully find them less guilty of
a crime that they seem to be, you know, very
likely to be found guilty of.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
It is insane. It's insane to have that world.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Play out in these spaces and not just in say,
the spaces of college classrooms, where the stakes are different.
Not that it's better, well, it is actually better for
it to play out there, not here, but nonetheless, this
is the kind of scenario where you'd think that rationality
would prevail, and it isn't, and it's viral, and it's
all over the place, and I think those are the
examples of stories and situations and even policy decisions that

(01:43:19):
are starting to lose Americans as opposed to gain support.
And there are people that are willing to punch a
different ticket, even if they don't believe in a vast
majority of the rhetoric of that side, because they understand
that that side won't go this far into the world
of insanity. All right, quick break a lot more Craig
Collins filling in. This is the Chad Benson show.

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Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
A few things.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
First, a Peruvian cop who was dressed as the Grinch
led a drug bust that was pretty funny, mostly because
he dressed up this way to go under cover. He
went into an area that was celebrating Christmas. He went
undetected at the festive area because of his costume. He
then was able to gain access to an area where
other police would be following him to break into and

(01:45:36):
arrest people part of a drug gang. The Grinch even
used a sledgehammer to open a door and then was
arresting people with handcuffs and yelling stuff out that these
criminals will never forget because not only were they arrested
and caught and broken up by a cop raid, but
the Grinch led the charge. And that's got to be
something A fantastic story for a variety of reasons, including

(01:45:59):
the fact that it is somehow relevant to the case
because you technically had to go under cover to get
access to the area you needed. You didn't have to
go as the Grinch might have been an idea for
that to be the thing. As far as anything else,
I'm a nonetheless, the story that went viral just before
and after Christmas holiday another story out there that I like,

(01:46:20):
mostly because there's no reason to have this not be
a law, because it's happening anyway. But jaywalking will soon
be legal in New York. New Yorkers will be allowed
to cross the street wherever they please starting in twenty
twenty five. Again, anyone who's ever been any part of
the city would know that this happens all the time anyway,
And so yeah, look both ways, make sure that no

(01:46:42):
taxis are in your vicinity because they're gonna barrel right
through you. They don't care about anything, and then go
run to your heart's contend. I love that this is
a thing that's finally going to be changed, legislation that
actually I think had been unsigned for a bit, but
will inevitably be a law because because again it's more
of a reflection of what actually happens there as opposed

(01:47:04):
to if it's a good or bad idea.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
No one cares.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
They don't care, and they weren't going to care if
you were telling them that was illegal. It was probably
the least serious thing that someone can get caught doing
in New York, a city that's seeing a lot of
other violent issues right now. So give the cops a
break and don't make them have to try to even
hold anybody responsible for a jaywalking ticket when again, no
one cares. All right, One last thing I do like

(01:47:28):
this one too. A South Carolina woman who went on
a drug fueled rampage in which she crashed into a
bunch of things, might have stolen some stuff and eventually
was pulled over by police at about three o'clock in
the afternoon. I wound up telling cops when they asked
her to step out of the vehicle for a sobriety test,
that she was too high for that. So obviously the

(01:47:50):
kind of thing where you're not exactly hiding the reason
for the issue. When she admitted being too high, they
took her out of the vehicle. I found cocaine, all
kinds of stuff on her person, and I do love this.
A friend of mine even asked the question, what do
you think the public defenders going to do when they
read through this case?

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
She what now? She said she was too high for
that when they asked her to get out of the car. Oh,
this will be great. This is going to go well
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
I can't wait to defend this person and see if
we actually plead innocent somehow and what that would be.
But yeah, committed a bunch of crimes, crashed into a
bunch of stuff. Luckily no one was hurt, and she
was arrested after just blatantly admitting that she was not
in her right mind and impacted by drugs and whatnot. Again,
I like it when criminals make it easy on the cops.

(01:48:35):
That part is very nice. That part I encourage do
more of that if we can, please. But anyway, on
that note, not exactly uplifting. This is Craig Collins filling
in on the Chad Benson Show and thrilled to be
here for the holidays with you as well, thrilled to
be here to talk about the Grinch and a drug buzzt.
I imagine that cop is going to be proud of

(01:48:57):
that for a while, just like those criminals are going
to remember that for a while. Because he's kicking down
doors and handcuffing people with giant, you know, costume paws,
which couldn't have been easy. That had to be challenging,
So well done him. I wonder if they did a
dry run before they did that. Greg Collins filling in
on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):

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