Trump Speaking with Putin to Try to End Ukraine War

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chat Benson show, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's happening. They're having conversations. Oh that's bad, though, you
shouldn't talk to him. Well, how are we going to
get this done if I don't talk to the Pooter?
Gotta get this done? No, no, no, no, no, give in,
give in to Ukraine. Continue to funnel money over there,
even knowing.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Many many, many many many many.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
More thousands will die and it will end up the
exact same place that it's going to end soon. Because
you love the Pooter. No, actually I don't. I think
he's awful, And if he's listening to this, you're awesome.
He's a dictator, he's awful. He would have steamrolled through

(01:02):
Ukraine without our help. But at some point in time,
don't we have to come to the realization that this
isn't going to end any other way than a stalemate
and you having to give up land.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
No feels a lot like, you know, appeasement.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
President Trump is pressing ahead with his plan for trying
to end the nearly three year old war in Ukraine.
At the White House today, he said US and Russian
officials will be meeting tomorrow in Munich and Ukraine is
invited to join them.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
But a spokesperson for President Zelenski said Ukraine does not
expect to hold any talks with Russia, not right now.
He said, the United States, Europe and Ukraine must all
first agree on a common position.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
The Ukraine War will be the main topic at the
opening of the sixty first Munich Security Conference, held in
a city synonymous with Europe's appeasement of Hitler at a
conference in nineteen thirty eight in the run up to
World War Two. Histories some critics are raising to describe
President Trump's dealings with Russian President Putin over Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh okay, so let me ask you, what exactly are
we supposed to do? Because I hear all kinds of stuff,
especially from the left. Oh, we got to do this,
and we got to do that. We should be here,
We should definitely do this. We should spend a lot
more money. We should continue to fund this war, We
should continue to do all of these things.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Okay, okay, great?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And what's the endgame to kill as many Ukrainians and
Russians as possible? Is that the endgame to spend ourselves
even further into debt? Is that the endgame to protect
a lot of Europe that doesn't seem really to want
to protect itself. I'm trying to figure out what the
endgame is. All Right, you've won. If you're Zelenski, you survived.
That was the biggest thing. You're still gonna have a nation.

(02:48):
Is it gonna be what you want? Is it gonna
be perfect? Or are you gonna have to come to
the realization that you're gonna have to give up some land.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yes? Yes, going back to pre two thousand and four,
it ain't happening.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
The reality that returning to twenty fourteen as borders as
part of a negotiated settlement is unlikely. The reality of
US troops in Ukraine is unlikely. The reality of Ukraine
membership in NATO as a part of a negotiated settlement unlikely.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, none of that stuff's likely. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
But you survive as a nation. You led your nation
through a horrific time in the face of an enemy
that was bigger, stronger, but your heart and your leadership
got them through. But the end of the day, a
tie is a win for you, and a tie in

(03:45):
a weird way as a win for the Putin the Booter,
the boot dog. But if we continue to fund this,
we continue to put money into this, we're going to
see thousands more killed and injured, and then eventually it'll
end the same place. Or god forbid, that Ukraine breaks

(04:06):
out and decides we're going straight to Moscow. Well, then
it could get a little spicier, or that eventually he
runs out of folks talking about Zelensky and they move
on into Kiev and decide, hey, we're not done yet.
Then we're dragged into something because he wants to go
somewhere else. It's crazy to think that you have so

(04:28):
many people, in particular in the Democrat Party who feel
like we have to continue to do these things, to
continue to war effort and continue to push on and
help Ukraine when the political will from most Americans isn't there.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
And that's what Trump understands. And the money, Baby, the money, Alex.

Speaker 7 (04:54):
You know that Ukraine used to be a bipartisan issue.
You still have a bipartisan grew going to the Munich
Security Conference. But I wonder do Republicans on the hill
you speak with say that they will stand up right
against a deal that they would perceive as against Ukraine's
interests or against Europe's interest or are the politics of

(05:17):
the town such that listen, it's largely a done deal.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
There are definitely some Republicans, including Mitch McConnell as you
talked to earlier, and then others I think that would
speak out. He saw Senator Wicker of Mississippi just speak
out over at the Munich conference saying that Defense Secretary
of peak heads that's made a ro key mistake. I
think that there are some interests. That being said, even
the ones that are supportive of Ukraine recognize that the
politics that Trump tapped into of America first sending money

(05:44):
over to Ukraine are unsustainable.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
Yeah, and there you go on the politics point.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
He may have his finger on the pulse, which is
what Trump is great at.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Talking about Buddy Matt yesterday, Trump has always been good
at finding what Scott Jennings said, the eighty twenty thing,
eighty percent of Americans agree this is ridiculous or this
should go this way. So he takes that position. That's
the populism. It's easy grab the low hanging fruit. Most Americans.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Look.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I talk to a lot of Republicans. They don't want
Putin to win, but they don't want to fund the
fight against him. Peace is better for business and it's
better for lives. I don't want Putin to win, and

(06:33):
I don't think he has. But at some point in
time I look and say, we're just throwing money down
a giant hole. And as we do that, what are
we getting out of it? Nothing is nothing in the
hole except their money, and we can't get down there
to get it. We're not getting it back. Oh and
by the way, it's stacked on top of dead Russian

(06:54):
soldiers and Ukrainians. So what's the endgame. It's not about
whether or not you want Putin to win or lose.
It's just about the reality of This is the situation
which is so hard because people don't understand that. You know,

(07:17):
you talk to people about they want for something and
the hope for something, and then the reality of something.
I used to know a lot of people that want
certain things, you know, like politically, and hope for certain things,
but they also recognize the reality is that's not gonna happen.
Somehow we've given a people the impression that reality no
longer matters. So this will be the topic for the

(07:43):
next couple days, especially if Trump brings it to an end. Well,
he's just gonna give in to Putin? Is he is
that what he's doing? Is that what he's doing? Well,
you heard, you know what Pete said, he made the
rookie mistake.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
He's cut of.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Everybody knows what's We've had Mike clients on for going
on three years talking about all kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Militarily.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
He has said from the moment this war started, when
it ends, it's gonna end like this. Peace for land,
Peace for land and for Putin. Not only is he
gonna get a little bit more than he had, but
most importantly to appease him. Oh, it's appeasement for his people.

(08:28):
He's gonna be able to say, it's a win for us,
we stopped the West. The appeasement for Zelenski is we're
going to make sure that you are protected and that
this doesn't happen again.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And we're going to build a coalition here in.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Europe because you guys need to pay attention to this
to help make sure that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
But not us, not us. We don't want any more
part of this.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, Like I know we're all in NATO, but I
wouldn't expect Ukraine to jump in and help us if
Mexico somehow decided to attack US. Yeah, NATO is one thing,
but I wouldn't expect that. I wouldn't expect Ukrainio we're
coming on over. I mean you may offer that sounds great,
but at what point in time does Europe have to

(09:24):
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Speaker 3 (09:34):
You set a piece.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, you gotta have to appease both of them. You
have to make them both feel like they got a win.
That is the negotiation at this point in time. Making
people feel like they got a win even though both lost.

(09:57):
Ukraine's gonna not only lose a bit of land, but
they've lost tens of thousands of lives, kids, kidnapped, injuries.
I mean an economy just destroyed buildings, cities, and the
Russians have lost god knows how many lives and spent

(10:19):
the lives of other people's country men and women and
embarrassed themselves at time. So how do you make it
feel like both of them gotta win? You can do
that because they're both gonna you know, Zelensky is gonna think,

(10:44):
oh I could.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Have there's nothing more you could do.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Zero and anybody criticizing Trump and any of this stuff.
Remember Biden refused to give him any of the stuff
until at times it was too late, after he told
him he would never get it. And he also told
Zelenski to leave the first weekend of the war.

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They are so bad at reading the room, at understanding
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(23:21):
to say, what the hell's going on with you guys?

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Is there?

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Is that correct?

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The next Rancy chair? That's right.

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He kept saying it's a messaging issue, as though, no,
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opposed to we've gotten away from New Deal values.

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Does that make sense to you? Now?

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(24:20):
not dwarves him, but you know what I mean, like,
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you've gotten away from it. What are you thinking? What
the hell are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Now?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
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answer of dumb answers for a party right now that
is failing. They're failing the American people. They're failing themselves.

(24:55):
And if it keeps going like this, they're going to
be obsolete sooner rather than later, which is not something
I want.

Speaker 27 (25:02):
Well, I think there's a few things going on here
in terms of how we better communicate with the American people.
Maya Angelo said it best. People won't remember what you say,
they may not even remember what you do, but they
will always remember how you make them feel. And I
think what we have to do a better job of
is making the American people feel that we understand the

(25:23):
pain that they've been in economically.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
You're an idiot, you are.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
You have lost the plot how you make them feel.
You're not talking to the American people. You're talking to
a small slice of people who are elitist, who for
whatever reason are activists, and that's who you choose to
send the message that you have to that you're there

(25:58):
for them. You know, earlier we talked about Trump is
great at finding that eighty twenty situation where eighty percent
of Americans agree on this. You guys are great at
finding the five ninety five where five percent of America
agrees on it and the other ninety five don't. And

(26:18):
you take the five percent that do. You better get
your crap together and do it fast. There's opportunity right here.
But at this moment in time, you are failing and
you have no leadership whatsoever, and you're going to continue
to fail until you wake up and realize we've got
to get back to who we were and who we

(26:40):
should be. And at this moment in time, if I'm Trump,
I'm just laughing.

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Keep doing it.

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Speaker 2 (29:12):
A lot of Valentine's, a lot of Saint Valentine's martyrs.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Back in the day.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Take The most popular legend involves a priest name of
Valentine or Valentine. He defied Emperor Claudius and his ban
on marriages for young soldiers. Valentine continued to perform secret
marriages and was eventually caught and executed on February fourteenth,
around two sixty nine eighty. Now. Another story suggests that

(29:40):
Valentine was in prison for helping persecuted Christians and fell
in love with his jailer's daughter. Before his execution, he
supposedly wrote a letter signed from your Valentine, which many
people think is why we get cards and whatnot. The
fifteenth century, the poet Jeffrey Chance helped popularize the idea

(30:04):
of Valentine's Day's romantic holity. In his poem Parliament of Fouls,
he linked Valentine's Day to the time when birge chose
their mates, reinforcing its connection to love and courtship. Today's world,
it's about tender, it's about scams.

Speaker 29 (30:20):
The FTC says Americans lost more than a billion dollars
to romance fraud in twenty twenty three, so Meta rolling
out new tools on Instagram, Facebook, Messenger, and WhatsApp to
combat the fraud. The company is saying they're restricting accounts
that are engaging in suspicious behavior like messaging excessive numbers
of people using fake profile pictures, fraudulently acting as a

(30:41):
dating agency, and in one of the newest trends of
these romance scams, posing as military members.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's been around for a while, it's different now, though
there's no doubt about that, and.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's big business.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
These people will look at you as not their love interest,
but another mark.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
As they would say, it's a big issue.

Speaker 26 (31:05):
It comes along and you know a lot of the
holidays actually, but it certainly Valentine's Day. And when I
when I say it's big, I mean to the tune
of one point one four billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Wow. Now I don't feel sorry for everybody.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
There are people out there that get scammed and it's
awful and horrible, and I understand that.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
But there are some people out there who get scammed.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
You think yourself, you know what, that's a lesson you
needed to learn, because people are getting fooled that somebody
who's super famous has fallen in love with you.

Speaker 26 (31:40):
These criminals will express their love very very quickly, within
hours or days, and they'll use highly personal language to
convey this and establish that emotional connection.

Speaker 12 (31:51):
Jason Momoa probably doesn't want.

Speaker 13 (31:53):
To be in a relation with you. I'm sorry, that's
probably not real.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
That's they What do you mean he doesn't love me again?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Unless you need to learn first the prince from Nigeria
is not real. Now, Jason Momoa doesn't love me?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
When will I learn?

Speaker 30 (32:17):
Never?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Never hold on. Somebody just made a phone call. It's
my kid. He's stuck in Mexico and needs me to
go get five hundred dollars worth of CVS gift cards.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Chad, that's not nice. People get scammed. I get it.

Speaker 12 (32:33):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's wrong. But if you're if you haven't had a date.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Five years, you suddenly get an email from Jason Momoa
on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I think you're hot. You kind of deserve what you get, right,
And you know, people fall for it.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That's the thing. That's the thing. Never in their wildest
dreams they think, you know what, he should love me
because I am hot, Oh, Chad.

Speaker 26 (33:08):
Leveraging the AI technology allows these cyber criminals to portray
themselves as real people.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Again.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh, I know some of your thinking, Chad. That's hilarious, right.
You had to learn a lesson. You got to learn
a lesson. There's nothing wrong. You know, they're learning a
little bit of a lesson. And and there are old
people out there that get taken advantage of their people
out there.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
But if it's one thing, if you think, Okay, this
person is in the military and and and they they
they it feels real, right, and it's and not only
to feel real. It looks real like you could picture
yourself with them. Okay, you know you could picture yourself

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with them. It's another thing to think that Jason Momoa
right is totally into you. Your three bills, one leg
shorter than the other, You have a mustache, and you
sweat in the winter, and you're like, yeah, he would
like this. You live in a trailer with nine hundred

(34:21):
cats and it smells. But he's the going that's what
I want and you buy it that.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
You learn that lesson? You do.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
You do just like those guys that go to Russia
or used to. You get Russian brides like your four
hundred pounds. You're balding and not in a good way.
And your head's not good for being bald because you
got to have a good head, right, you know, if
you can be bald, you don't want that weird you are.
You drive a beat up nineteen ninety four Taurus and

(34:59):
you think she loves you, the supermodel really loves you.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Again, that's a lesson you got to learn.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh geez three two, three, five, three eight twenty four,
twenty three at Chad Benson Show and as your Twitter
your Instagram. I was going through some funny Valentine's Day
cards and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I came across this thing. It was It was an advertisement.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
If you had no idea what to get her for
Valentine's Day, imagine how overwhelming arranging.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Her funeral would be. I love that.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Oh my goodness, you miss City Show. Make sure you've
had the podcast right here on the Chad Benson Show.
Coming up second hour, Buddy sack Abrahm, chiefvestment officer in
Bullard Capital's going to join the program. I'm going to
talk a little bit about the insanity of what's going
on in the market right now.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Our tariff's going to hurt. But at what point in.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Time do we feel that there's going to be a
little pullback here, because it is crazy how much some
of these companies are trading for, considering they have very
little profit to show for. It can reach out to
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We've got of.

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Speaker 1 (36:24):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
The government is shrinking. What is it really? It's bloat?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Baby? Are you suffering with bloat? Are you the US government?
Try Elon Off. That's right, Elonoff will help you with
that bloat.

Speaker 31 (37:14):
The Trump administration taking its sweeping efforts to shrink the
size of the federal workforce one step further, ordering agencies
to lay off nearly all probationary employees, meaning those hired
within the last one or two years, a move that
could impact as many as two hundred and twenty thousand
federal workers. At the Department of Veteran Affairs alone, more

(37:35):
than one thousand new workers were dismissed.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Oh no, what will happen.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
We've only got a kazillion people still working, Chad. That's
not your job. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
But that being said, do we have too many people
working in certain agencies? I'm sure the answer is yes.
In fact, I'm positive the answer is yes. Do we
have too many agencies that double what other agencies do,

(38:12):
I'm sure the answer is yes. Is shrinking the government
and making it more efficient.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Bad.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
It depends.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Now only does it depend on what side of the
oli you're on, It depends on what year you said it.
Case in point, let's roll back a little bit. Welcome
back to the nineties. We're going to play something that
somebody said, and then we're going to play something that

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Donald Trump said.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
You guys ready go.

Speaker 20 (38:45):
We have work to give the American people a smaller,
less bureaucratic government in Washington.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
And we have to give the American people one that
lives within its means. The era of big government is over.

Speaker 20 (38:58):
We are merely looking at parts of the big bureaucracy
where there has been tremendous waste and fraud and abuse.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Oh, is that what you're looking for? Can we operate
a smaller government? Of course we can.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Can we operate a government that can live within sight
of its means? They all love to spend, baby, they do.
In fact, yesterday I spoke to timber Chat, who is
going to be congressman out here in Tennessee, and he
is going to be on the committee that's going to

(39:37):
look into JFK RFK, et cetera, et cetera. But he's
a big fiscal Hawk, and I asked him about Doge.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
This is what he had to say.

Speaker 32 (39:48):
I love it the reason they're hollered because they got
their hand in the good Jr. You're going to see
money that comes right back to Washington, and it's both parties.
So you know, i'd love to point the fingers that
never but I can assure you that that's not all
the case. And I'm looking forward to I'm looking forward
to that everything they can get is fast and taking

(40:11):
get it because we're going to have to pass laws.
Anything the president does back taking the order, and we've
got to pass laws to make it permanent or another
president can just come in and turn it over. So
we've got to have the guts to do that. And
that's that's where you're going to see your your people
getting a little squarely on it. And and I love

(40:31):
it the stuff they're they're finding out the USA. We've
been talking about this stuff for years and we can
never get anybody doesn't pay any attention to it, and
then it's just coming out fast and curious. Right now.
You know, we're looking at over a billion dollars and
just broad waste and abuse already.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And I point out there that timber shit. Tennessee congressman
points out as well that we've said it for a
very long time. Republicans are just as guilty as the
Democrats in the ridiculous amount of spending. It's where they

(41:13):
spend it, but they're just as guilty. The only thing
they can all agree on if nobody's looking, is let's
spend everybody else's money.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
So when I hear that the federal workers are going
to be laid off, the probationary ones or whatever, I'm like, oh, well,
how many maybe two hundred thousand, Okay, how many people
does the federal government employe?

Speaker 3 (41:38):
About three million? Is that going.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
To save us a gazillion dollars?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
No, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Sometimes cutting salary isn't what it's all about either. You know,
when I hear people say, you know, look what he
did to Twitter. He streamlined Twitter. It works great. I
got zero problems with Twitter. Yeah, but it's not making
any money.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
It has nothing to do with how many people are employed.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Remember when they said it's gonna be fall apart, it'll
never work, it's gonna be broken, it's never gonna work.
What happened works fine, works great, works better than ever.
You don't like the content, you don't like Elon, and
that's the issue.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
It has nothing to do with how it runs.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It has all to do with how people feel about
the platform, in particular advertisers, because you know, they're all like, ah,
we can't have our stuff over here because Elon's bad
and because you have too many conservative voices and there's
hate on here.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
It has nothing to do with whether or not it
actually functions. So sometimes cutting, okay, yeah, that's gonna save
you some. But if you streamline and you make think
things better run i e. AI, you know, maybe not
having that wacky limestone old school retirement.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Vault where you send the paperwork down.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Unlike a wire, maybe streamlining it will also save money.
But any of the big stuff that's got to get done,
you've got to face the fact that you're gonna have
to talk about Medicare and social Security and fixing that.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
That is the thing. If you're gonna get there. That's
how it's got to work.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
In that direction, you're gonna have to actually die worried
about military.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Military they're gonna cut.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
By the way, the military is the one that's gonna
get cut because Pete hegsat's gonna go come on in,
take a look, get rid of the stuff that we
don't need, streamline us, make us, you know, so it
runs better, and all the stuff that's obsolete we don't need,
move us forward. And I think that'll save money. And
by the way, when I even bring up social Security,

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I'm gonna hear a whole bunch from people.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Oh my god, and all this I want to tell you.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Do you remember the thought of doing anything when it
came to privatizing social Security? Does anybody remember that? And
how many people freaked out and it could never happen,
and oh my god, it's the worst of the worst
of the worst of the worst. Oh I'm gonna break

(44:33):
down some numbers for you that should piss everybody off,
but nobody ever wants to talk about it, because well,
you know, that's what happens. So if we were to
have privatized social security, meaning instead of a four to
one K or any of that stuff, the Social Security
they would have took that money and put it straight
into the market as your own account, and the four

(44:55):
to one K stuff that could have been matched puts
it in there. So we're privatizing, okay, automatically taken out privatize.
If we were to privatize that in two thousand and six,
right now, somebody who was retiring ten years from now,
because I'm kind of using my age range kind of thing,

(45:18):
if you didn't get anything for your employer, you'd have
six hundred thousand that would include because you still had
to put money in solid security. But I'm just going
from two thousand and six to there. Okay, that's all
I'm doing at this point in time. That would have
been today, If it's ten years from now, you'd have
one point four million dollars with your four percent that
you could pull out, it'd be fifty six thousand dollars

(45:39):
a year, okay, fifty six.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Thousand, So fifty.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Six thousand versus about twenty four thousand with Social Security. Now,
if they would have started it sooner, and we can
go way back, and let's just say for the sake
of argument, they started it in nineteen ninety and you
were semi consist with it, you worked at a company,
did all the things, you know it just just as

(46:05):
a regular person, you'd have five point six million dollars
in your account. Now, I even said, let's just shave
off a couple million, because maybe things didn't go as
great as you thought they were. There were some pullbacks
in the market, et cetera, et cetera, and you're still
sitting at three million dollars to four million dollars. You're
pulling out one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year

(46:27):
eight ten twelve grand a month compared to two hmm.
Government doesn't want that money to go away from government
because government takes that money and uses it for other
things while promising the future.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's what we call a Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
And anybody knows anything about a Ponzi scheme, the first
one INDs do.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Really, really, really well.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
If you're towards the middle and end good luck. That's
why we need more workers. The more workers we have,
the easier it is for the Ponzi scheme to survive.
So in reality, they don't want This is the thing

(47:10):
about the people that are against things like doge and whatnot.
They want to make sure that money continues to flow.
This is where their power lies. It's about your money.
For all the talk of well government is altruistic and
government is all of these things that's what the Democrats want,
you believe, that's why we need all of these things.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
We need to grow the government because it's all about you.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
In truth, it's all about the money they can get
for you so they can fund all their other little programs.
That's what it's about, so they can do what keep
themselves in power. Whenever I hear Democrats go corporations are greedy,
I look at them and say, you know who's greedy, government.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Because you're always asking for more money.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Let's be real, you're not asking, you're demanding because you're
as greedy as as the corporations that you say are
nothing but greedy. So you then do something where you
have a captive audience. You do everything you can to
take the money you can away from them, and then
what happens, well, then you decide how it trickles down.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Okay, okay, it's about.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Power, baby, It's about power three two, three, five, three, eight,
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Speaker 3 (48:28):
We'll ask Zach about this.

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Speaker 33 (49:51):
President Trump insisting Russia's President Vladimir Putin can be trusted.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I know him very well. Yeah, I think he was piece.
I think you would tell maybe didn't.

Speaker 33 (50:01):
The Trump administration already saying Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky would
have to give up some territory and joining NATO is
likely out of the question. But Zelensky, who President Trump
spoke to after his call with Putin, saying, we, as
a sovereign country, simply will not be able to accept
any agreements without us.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
You're going to be at the table, So settle down, Okay,
You're going to have to give up stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You knew that.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Let's not pretend that that wasn't happening. You knew that
was going to happen. Everybody knew that they were going
to have to give up something. It's how much are
they going to have to give up? Is the question?
Along with some other things like assurances, you know that

(50:52):
somebody's going to be.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
There to help if Putin gets froggy again.

Speaker 33 (50:58):
President Trump trying to call Zolensky and US allies in Europe,
indicating Ukraine would have a seat at the negotiating table,
she would.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I mean they're part of it.

Speaker 20 (51:08):
We would have Ukraine or would have Russia, and we'll
have other people involved too.

Speaker 33 (51:13):
Even though President Trump says Ukraine will have a seat
at the table for negotiations, the President has also said
that he will meet alone with President Putin at some
point in the future.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Ooh, what's that mean?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
According to Reid joy Read, who lacks a lot of joy,
which is irony? Is he going to sell us to Russia?

Speaker 19 (51:34):
If Donald Trump announced tomorrow that he was selling the
United States to Vladimir Putin personally and that we will
now be owned by the Kremlin, every single Republican would
say yes, sir, and vote for it. We already have
seen their behavior.

Speaker 15 (51:47):
We've stopped.

Speaker 19 (51:47):
I think most of us have stopped expecting any different
behavior from them.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I'm trying to figure out exactly what the hell she's
talking about. I didn't know we were for sale. That's crazy, right,
Does anybody know that? Did you know we were for sale?
The obsession with his with with with him and Russia
and the pooter is crazy, It really is.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
And they continue to go on and on and on
and on and on.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
About it three two, three, five, three eight, twenty four
to twenty three at Chad Benson Show. Is your Twitter
tweet at his text the program right here on the
chat Benson Show, there are god knows how many deaths.
What more do you think is going to happen out
of curiosity? Isn't it weird that the Democrats want this

(52:39):
so bad and that the Republicans are like, yeah, we'd
like peace. Joy Reid is a well, she's a warmonger.
I love it when you guys do tweet.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Here's one. This one's good. I'm gonna have to beep
a lot.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
It never ceases to amaze me. How can I just
tune in and you're immediately a more? The left is
reacting to Elon Musk. Well, you know, maybe if you
had someone who wasn't over a Nazi, that would be.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
A good start.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
How about people who aren't sexual predators? There's another bonus.
You're a idiot, dude, and you could not wait to.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Again you piece of thank you appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Oh my goodness, sir, you need to relax that right.
There is everything you need to know about a lot
of liberals. I deal with. Everything is emotion never for

(53:57):
a moment, could they think outside the box about anything
because they're so blinded by feelings, and those feelings overrun
any kind of logic they may have. Right three two
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Speaker 3 (54:15):
All the other things.

Speaker 34 (54:16):
Right here in the Chad Benson Show, Son, Chad Benson Show,

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Speaker 3 (54:43):
Have a Valentine's Day, everybody. Hope you guys are doing well.
Life is good for you. Nope, it is.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Don't forget that loved one of yours, you know, don't
forget that person because this holiday, which was made up
by greeting card companies, well this will get you in trouble.
So when you're getting off the freeway today and you
see that guy standing out there with those five dollars flowers,
you better pick some of those up. Not just another Friday,
That's all I'm saying. It is that time of the

(55:10):
week we do a little wheel of surprise. I have
no idea what any of these buttons are, so I
have like screens got buttons on it, and they're just
numbered so I know what order they're in. So it's
not like a total wheel of surprise where so it's
a story and it goes together. And so I said,
you know, it's a wheel of surprise. So I'm spend

(55:31):
the little wheel of surprise. It'll tell me which one
to hit and then we go from there. All right,
you guys ready, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Alrighty number seven.

Speaker 35 (55:49):
Eighteen year old Trinity Shockley charged with conspiracy to commit
murder and conspiracy to commit an act of terrorism. Authorities
claimed Shockley was obsessed with past mass shooters and an
allegedly targeted Morrisville High School near Indianapolis for an attack,
possibly involving an AR fifteen assault rifle. The FBI received
a tip on a hotline, contacted local police, who took

(56:11):
it from there.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yeah, this is crazy. So she's eighteen and she's a ginger.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Has nothing to do with that, so shush, she's gonna
go in and shoot up the place. They're getting ready
to find out something even weirder. She got into a
car wreck a few years ago and it was bad.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
The school raised.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
A ton of money to help her through all of this.
She lives with her dad, who's divorced, and apparently they're
very tight, but not tight enough to notice what she
had on the walls in her bedroom.

Speaker 36 (56:43):
That was to me, would have been my number one
red flag.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
You know.

Speaker 36 (56:46):
In her bedroom she had pictures on her wall of
mass and school shooters as though they were her family photos.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
That's right, And she was obsessed with the Parkland shooter,
apparently an in love with him.

Speaker 36 (57:00):
Parents need to pay attention where the kids are going. Uh,
and don't discount anything. If you see something that looks
kind of odd, you need to say something.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, if you see something, I don't know, mass shooters
taped up on the wall in your kid's bedroom and
them talking about them being heros, maybe you should go.
We need to seek somehow maybe, but obviously you didn't

(57:31):
undo the wheel of surprise.

Speaker 37 (57:45):
Number eleven lawmakers voiced serious concerns over the app after
classified briefings, calling the app a national security concern due
to Bite Dance's close ties to the Chinese government. Bite
Dance denies it's a threat.

Speaker 15 (57:59):
Frankly, we have no choice. We have to save it.

Speaker 37 (58:02):
On his first day in office, President Trump signed an
executive order extending the deadline for the app sale to
April fifth.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
That's right, TikTok is back now. It was back on
that Sunday. Remember you know it started out in the morning.
Everybody's like, oh, it's over, and then it came back
later on that day and you could go on it
and whatever, and they put that pause on it. Well
it's back in another way because now if you don't
have it, you can get it.

Speaker 38 (58:27):
For almost four weeks, you couldn't download TikTok from Apple
or Google's app stores. But this morning it is back.
So this means it's available for software updates. If you
got a new phone, you can download TikTok again too.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
So now you can get your TikTok if you lost
it because you got mad and you get rid of
it and you went somewhere else, or like your phone
broke or you didn't have it before and you're like,
I want to see what all the hubbub's about. Now
you can go find out what all the hubub's about.
And it has zero you know. For me, I've always

(59:01):
said this about TikTok. Can they spy on us?

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Are they spying on us? Yes, even though bike Dance
is a separate company. In reality, I think we all
know that while you're a quote unquote operating separately from
the other part of the company. It's still owned by
that part of the company, And yes, they'll have some
sort of trojan horse to spy on us well, collect

(59:29):
information in a massive way. Remember that's one of the things.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
They love to collect.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Information, even though don't know what to do with any
of the data, they just want to collect collect. That
being said, my biggest issue had less to do with
that and more to do with the influence it has,
because that influence, especially in a younger generation, is crazy scary.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Onward we go with the wheel of surprise number two.

Speaker 39 (01:00:05):
Think about the last time you watch YouTube. Were you
on your phone or your TV. If it's the latter,
you're not alone. TVs are now the primary device for
watching YouTube in the country, and YouTube's annual letter Nielsen
Data reveals YouTube has been the number one streaming platform
in the US for two years. On average, viewers are

(01:00:27):
watching more than one billion hours of YouTube content per
day on TV screens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
So what's driving the shifts?

Speaker 39 (01:00:35):
The rise of smart TVs, improved app updates, and the
apps diverse content library are all major factors.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
There is no doubt that once the TVs became smart,
YouTube was going to be dominant and it is so
dominant I watch it. We have a TV or TVs
are all hooked up to YouTube. Outside of a few
things on Disney or a couple little things here and

(01:01:04):
there that you can't get on YouTube, a vast majority
of what she wants to watch is on YouTube. So
YouTube is easily as far as all of the you know,
the things we have. You know, because I got this
because I want to watch the Premier League, and I've
got this because I want to watch the NFL, And
it's easily the most dominant thing in the house as

(01:01:30):
far as watching TV. It's it's awesome. This is smart looks.
Once they became smart TVs, they just really became computers
that happened to double as televisions.

Speaker 39 (01:01:41):
The letter also highlights that viewers are interacting with more
than just traditional videos. They're turning to short form content
on the apps, shorts, podcasts, live streams, and even sports.
YouTube recently redesigned its TV app to make browsing more seamless.
Now viewers can read video comments and descriptions without blocking

(01:02:03):
the main video. YouTube subscription service is also seeing growth,
with more than eight million subscribers to YouTube TV for
many households, services like this are replacing cable despite recent
price hikes across streaming platforms. Nielsen's latest The Gauge Report
shows streaming platforms accounted for the largest share of all
TV formats last December, including cable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Dominant Constant has football, right, so it's got everything YouTube
tv for the most part, it has everything you need.
It doesn't have but you can buy the movies if
you want to watch them, and many of them are
there free.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
But on top of that, what you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Get with Hulu and everything else is you don't get
the shorts.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
You don't. I mean, it's all of those little things
that you can do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Even you know, you can stream me there, which is crazy,
but yes, you can stream anything this on YouTube. It's
got content galore, from the best content to insanely hilarious
content to just what the hell did I watch content that?

Speaker 17 (01:03:10):
Right?

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Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Zach Abram, Chievestment Officer Bullard Capital joins the program. It
is the Jad Benson show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Fronting with scissors. Sounds great compared to this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Say, it's that time of the week talking to our
good buddies, Zack Abram, Chievesent Officer Bowork Capital of the show,
sponsor of the show. And now he's going to upset
us because I did a deep dive into what if
we privatized social security? But now he's gonna upset us
with something even better. All right, brother, tell me what's better.

Speaker 15 (01:05:14):
We did it.

Speaker 30 (01:05:14):
So we did that exercise that you did and said, okay,
if we just put it in the s and P
five hundred over that same period of time, what are
we looking at?

Speaker 15 (01:05:20):
But it gets worse.

Speaker 30 (01:05:21):
Back in the sixties when the government rated the quote
unquote lock box of social Security, what they did simultaneously
at that time is social security that moment quit being
a self funded by vehicle, right, yeah, So it became
a general obligation of the federal government.

Speaker 15 (01:05:40):
Okay. Now there's another general.

Speaker 30 (01:05:43):
Obligation debta of the federal government that I bet everybody
listening to us has owned at some point.

Speaker 15 (01:05:48):
It's a US government bond. Here's where it gets worse.

Speaker 30 (01:05:52):
Had they taken our social security payments and put them
in US government bonds over the last forty years, the
average social security distribution would be two and a half
times larger than it is currently. But our government decided
to pay foreign investors over two x the level of

(01:06:13):
interest on their general obligation debts. Then they're giving taxpayers
credit for in the social security system. We didn't even
have to privatize social Security to increase it two and
a half x. And I've had people go, yeah, but
those bonds can go down, and I'm like, oh my gosh, dude.
Both things are general obligation debts of the federal government.

(01:06:34):
If you trust one, you have to trust the other
just as much.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Oh exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Abrahm, Chief investment Officer, Board Capital Look at the market,
I think it's overbought. The tariffs I think worry a
lot of people. He said today, Look, we're going to
feel some pain. You feel like you know, we're already
getting told there's not going to be another rate cut
till probably September at the earliest. Are you feeling like
we've got a little bit of a slowdown ahead of us.

Speaker 30 (01:06:57):
I'm going to do something that they always tell people
that do what I do not do, right, which is
make some concrete calls.

Speaker 15 (01:07:04):
I will just say this right now. Listen.

Speaker 30 (01:07:06):
None of this is financial advice for people, because I
don't know what you're doing, and I don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:07:10):
What your needs are and all that other kind of stuff.

Speaker 30 (01:07:11):
But I will say this, I have never seen a
period of time in my career, and I include that
in O eight oh nine where I see more retail
investors getting taken down a road that is going to
cause them massive amounts of pain. And the vast majority
of them, here's the most pernicious part. The vast majority
of them think that they are avoiding the crazy and

(01:07:32):
they don't.

Speaker 15 (01:07:32):
Realize that they're at ground zero.

Speaker 30 (01:07:34):
And the reason they don't, the reason they're a lot
of these retired folks. They're not out there buying Pallenteer
at seventy times revenue. They're not out there buying app
love and at forty times revenue. They're buying stallwarts like
Apple and Costco.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Okay.

Speaker 30 (01:07:49):
The problem is is, unlike any other asset bubble we've had,
it's created really weird scenarios where Costco is now a
few ticks away from trading at seventy times earnings. It
is at fifty eight times forward earnings, the highest valuation
it's ever had, including back in the days when it
was growing revenue at forty percent a year. Okay, Now,

(01:08:11):
let me remind you that this is a company that's
growing at seven percent a year, okay, and so and
these anomalies have been created by passive investing. For the
first time in the history of our country, more than
fifty cents of every dollar is invested via index funds.
So what that means is more than half the stocks

(01:08:32):
in the market that trade every single day are being
traded on a completely non financial basis.

Speaker 15 (01:08:40):
When you buy an index fund.

Speaker 30 (01:08:42):
You are buying the most of the biggest company in
that index, and you are buying the least of that
company in that index. When more than fifty percent of
investment dollars are going toward a vehicle like that, what
you would expect to see over time is a mare
that extremely overvalues large companies and extraordinarily undervalues small ones

(01:09:08):
because what determines how much of that every time somebody
puts a dollar into the S and P five hundred,
what determines how much of that money each company gets
is not their profitability, not their margins, not their price
to earnings ratio, not their dividends.

Speaker 15 (01:09:24):
It's just their size. So why is Costco doing what
it's doing?

Speaker 30 (01:09:28):
The biggest reason, and I think it's impossible to come
up with a logical explanation unless you look at this.
They're doing it because Costco is in the top twenty
on the Nasdaq. So every time somebody's buying Triple Q,
they're buying Costco. Costco also happens to be really popular
amongst value investors, buy and hold investors. Why because Buffett
Monger held it for so many years. So it's getting

(01:09:50):
hit on both fronts. But now you're sitting there looking
at a situation like Costco, which I love. I love
everything about that company. Their politics are a little too
left to me, but I give them, I give them,
I give them a pass on that because of how
well they treat their employees. If every company treated their
employees like Costco does, we would have significantly less problems
in this country. So then you flip around and you

(01:10:11):
start looking at other things that are outside of these indexes.
I have never seen valuation spreads like this where you
can go out literally and buy companies that trade and
like in not sketchy parts of the world. I'm talking like,
you know, Korea and Singapore and you know Panama and

(01:10:33):
all like what are considered stable locales. And as long
as those companies aren't US based, you can find companies
that are growing twice as fast in the same sector
that are trading at one fifth and one sixth the valuation.

Speaker 15 (01:10:47):
I've never seen value opportunities like this.

Speaker 30 (01:10:49):
Man, we're buying companies that are growing at twenty percent
paying out seven and eight percent dividends. Right, they've already
the reason they're paying out so many big dividends is
because they've already bought back so much stock they can't
buy anymore. Right, They're cash flowing like crazy, and they're
trading at six times earnings.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
It's because people are buying sexy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
They're buying name, you know, they want Nike, They're not
They're not happy with Sketchers. They want Nike. Right, it's
got to be and it's gonna hurt their feet eventually.
And the sketchers feel comfortable, and the Nikes are a
great shoe, but they're not a great shoe at that
you bought you you wanted those fours and you're a
size eight. All they had was a seven and a
half and you squitched yourself in there and and that's

(01:11:27):
the nightmare they have. It's interesting people want to reach
out to you because they'd be foolish not to, especially
this time of year with stuff that's a little uh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
You know, you guys are gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Show everybody what's what's for as far as what you
can do for them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
How did they get a hold of you?

Speaker 30 (01:11:40):
Yeah, easiest way go to Bordcapitalmanagement dot com. Know Your
Risk Radio dot com. You can subscribe to the podcast.
We do a thirty minute update every single day about
what's new in finance and politics.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Not hard to find. You're the man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I love talking to you. Zach Camery, our chie investment
officer board capitalill due to you next week.

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All right, brother, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Coming up, third hour of the program. We've got a
lot of good stuff. Still right, you're like, third hour
of the program. It's been all week man, what else
do you have? I got so much stuff kids, obviously,
more about the insanity and the world of politics.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Yes, of course we get your finally Friday sounds. That's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
We've got a little watch trending. And Brad Palumbo's gonna
join the program. You don't know who he is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Shame on you. You should.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
I'm just kidding, But you're gonna know. He's gonna join
the program next hour. We're gonna talk politics, pop culture
and all that other stuff. He is a YouTuber Brad
versus everyone, so he'll join the program in the third hour.
Speaking of YouTube, go to Chad Benson Show TV on
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Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Appreciate it when you do it. Is the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
This is a whale of a story.

Speaker 37 (01:13:35):
The nineteen year old was kayaking with his father on
Saturday when the massive whale suddenly surfaced, Adrian saying he
first thought it had eaten and swallowed him. He was
adding the real fear set in after he resurfaced, scared
that something might also happen to his father, or that
he would get hypothermia from the frigid waters. After a

(01:13:55):
few minutes in the water, Adrian managing to reach his
father's kayak.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
If you haven't seen the video, dudes in his kayak
and out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Comes a giant wow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
And he's just looking for plankton and he swallows him.
Then he spits him out because I do not like that.
It is not something I want to part of. It's Jonah,
it happened. It happened right there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
It shows you though, like we joke about nature messing
you up, but.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
It was crazy. And then the same day that came out,
there's a guy kayaking. There's a giant greet or jark
just following him and he's gone. Ah, because nature can
mess you up, even if it doesn't mean to. I
don't think the whale said, you know what, let's go

(01:14:56):
eat somebody in the kay. We'll spit him out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
It'd be great. Make sure they got their GoPro. That
didn't happen that way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
That is a whale of a story. You've got a
story now forever. You've got a conversation starter for ever.
Do you understand that? That is for ever? You have
a conversation starter. So there should be no reason to

(01:15:24):
never ever be caught in a situation where you can't
start a conversation at a party, or your friends can't
start one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
You look over, you see a nice lady.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
And everybody's like, hey, did you ever tell you the
time he got swallowed by a whale? There you go,
because if somebody, if you know, you're somewhere and somebody
got swallowed by a whale and they spit him out,
you're gonna ask him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
M You're gonna ask him. You know you are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Heather Boswell got her legs bitten off by a great
white shark. It's on video out in the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Of the uh. They'd left from Chile.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
They were going to the Antarctic, and one of those
like six month trip, you know, things for college, and
they were out swimming in the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
She got a legs bit off. You don't think that's
a conversation starter. Absolutely it is. She's chat there's a
lot of talk about animals eating people. Well, this one was.
The other one was a little bit more serious.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
This one was just probably surprisingly terrifying, is what I'm
trying to say.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Speaking of that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Federal workers not happy today. The layoffs are beginning. Two
hundred and twenty thousand affected today and some people freaking out,
which of course is hilarious.

Speaker 40 (01:16:39):
I'm a federal worker and I feel like a canary
in the coal mine right now, because what they're doing
to us is going to happen to the entire American public.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
It's not just about.

Speaker 40 (01:16:49):
Our jobs and our union contracts. That's all going to
get worse for everybody too, but it's also just about
the basic services. They're coming after public education and all
the money that gets distributed to the cities and states
to support our kids in school. Talking about coming after
the funding to support public defenders so that people's constitutional
right to a lawyer is supported. They're going to come

(01:17:10):
after our public hospitals, everything public is under attack.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Where do we start.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Well, first of all, only ten percent of that money
from the fence goes to the states to help them
with school.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
So it wasn't like we went in. They have federal teachers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
That we took all that money away from, and our
kids are never going to be able to learn.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Nobody ever has an answer to that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
And when it comes to taking away money from public defenders, again,
this is all about the states, States, states, states, and
nobody can ever for a moment, Look, can I picture
this thing going sideways?

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Ye, I've talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I've talked about there's a chance they're going to overreach,
They're going to do something stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
It could go sideways. There's always a chance of that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
But we're just gonna end up in the same place
we are now, which is debt. Nothing's very efficient stuff
like that. I just gonna end up in the same place.
And that's if any of this stuff happens. I believe
a vast majority of this, and I do mean a
vast majority of this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
It's not posturing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
It's effort, but the effort will be for for not
because you're not going to be able with a pen
to undo something and it'd be gone for good because
that next person could put it right back. And I
don't know if the Republicans who've had a free ride

(01:18:30):
since Trump took over because he's doing everything, you know,
through executive order, so they really even had to make
any kind of tough decisions as far as saying out
loud you support all these things, but then if you
had to vote on it, well, we all know gets
a little nerve wracking in there because while you're saying

(01:18:54):
it out loud, the reality is some of these things
that might get cut could affect your state and your
area of which you represent, and that may make people
feel a little uncomfortable. So the Republicans have done pretty
much nothing yet, so we'll see what that looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
But this whole like they're gonna take everything away. This
is gonna affect your job too.

Speaker 13 (01:19:18):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
It's not. It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
It's not gonna affect my job. It's not gonna affect
your job. Well, what if I'm a contractor with you?

Speaker 15 (01:19:28):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Understand that so much is state level run, so much
is in your city, and they're always talking about services.
Ninety percent of us don't use a lot of the
services that they're talking about. What about schools, You already
pay for that tax money from your state goes to
your schools. And remember when they talk about cutting so

(01:19:51):
much of what they would like to do Department of Education.
Do you think that that's just gonna happen. No, it's
gotta go through Congress. Doesn't mean that money's gone forever. No,
We're just gonna give it straight to the states. So
that means there won't be another agency out there. This
will just go to the states, by the way, an
agency that came about in what the seventies. Did we
know how to read, write, do rithmetic before Land? Yes,

(01:20:13):
yes we did. I think we were doing better.

Speaker 40 (01:20:15):
The entire public sphere is under attack by a handful
of billionaires behind Donald Trump. Elon must claims he's doing
this in the name of democracy. I heard you Elon
at the Oval Office, claiming that this is the expression
of the democratic will of the people. This is all
about transparency. What you're doing with DOGE. Are you really

(01:20:36):
doing it for democracy? Are you really doing it for
the American people? Or are you doing it for yourself?
Are you trying to do this for the American people.
Are you trying to do this for your own gain?
I get the feeling you didn't become the richest person
in the world by looking out for others.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
He's made a ton of people extremely wealthy. He's built cars.
Up until a couple of years ago, everybody in the
world love because he was going to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Save the planet. He still believes in climate change. All
the kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Stuff, a lot of stuff that seemed to be pretty
damn good that benefited a lot of people. And I think,
I don't think, I know. I mean I could read
the room. Democrats, you have a tough time with that.
You don't understand facial cues. You can't understand the fact

(01:21:19):
that somebody would who's worth four hundred billion dollars may
actually go, this is what's best for the country.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
I need to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
We're out of control, our spending's out of control, our
services are whack. Nobody's getting the stuff they need, and
it's antiquated. You can't fathom for a moment, do you
think maybe he might actually believe that he's doing something
good and that maybe he's really trying. No, you think,

(01:21:53):
no way, Really, it's possible. He's only in there for himself.
He's worth this. This is what people who who don't
understand business, This is what they don't get. First of all,
every human being is always out looking out for themselves.
We've talked about that because because that's just.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
The human nature side of things.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Secondly, he's worth four hundred billion dollars, so that means
he's been somewhat successful. I'm gonna throw it out there.
I mean seeing he's the richest man in the history
of mankind. That being said, he doesn't operate with I.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Need to make a ton of money. In mind, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
About achievement, it's about doing things. This is another opportunity
for him to do something. Going to space, going to Mars.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
We're doing that. Shooting a rocket up, catching it when
it comes back down. We're doing that. It's gonna be awesome.
All the cars, all that stuff. We're doing all those things.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Satellites for people in the skies so they can have
internet on the planet, anywhere in the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
We're doing that. It's awesome. The Boring Company, which is
you know, like boring through something, we're doing that. It's
about getting it done. Money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
This guy's not one of the guys that lives for
the money side of stuff. But everybody thinks that way
because those who don't understand money or don't think about achievements,
They think about you know whatever, activism, organization and stuff.
It's about getting stuff done. This is something else he
wants to get done. He sees something he thinks he

(01:23:33):
can fix. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Do
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now for Elon that it's blinded you from being open
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stuff and cut some stuff, Maybe we can streamline stuff.
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He's got a great YouTube show called Brad Versus Everyone.

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He's an independent conservative younger, you.

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Know, a little hiper and cooler than all of us,
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I like talking to fun people. I like talking people
who are interesting, who've got an open mind. This guy's
it and watch a lot of his videos lately. Brad Palumbo.
He's got a YouTube show called Brad versus everyone, and
it is hilarious because you take on everyone, including I
watched last week when you were on CNN, and did
you just feel like Brad, like you just wanted to go?

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Why are you all lying?

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
You know?

Speaker 43 (01:31:44):
It was quite the experience going into the lion's den
like that. I honestly should have been prepared for it,
having seen clips of how kind of hostile they can
be and how they can jump on down your throat
and how you kind of have to fight to get
a word in. But it was about what I in
it on that front. But I enjoy it. Honestly. I'm
not one to shy away from a debate or need

(01:32:05):
a safe space, so I'm happy to go into the
lions then anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
You know, I'm very independent minded, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
I call myself a little bit of a Conservatorian, you know,
and in a world where everybody seems they want to
pick a tribe, I'm very open minded. I want to
talk to a lot of people, and that's what you do,
and which is what I enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
People who have an open mind, who are willing to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Look at everybody, even if I don't agree with you,
I do want to hear what you have to say,
and in today's world, that's refreshing.

Speaker 43 (01:32:30):
Yeah, certainly. And I think it's boring to agree with
somebody all the time. And I think if you find yourself,
particularly with a politician, agreeing with them one hundred percent
of the time, you're probably not thinking deeply about every
single issue, because whether it's left or right, the types
that are drawn to politics these just in general, but
especially these days, tend to be very power hungry and

(01:32:51):
arrogant people who kind of blow that with the wind
in terms of where their positions go. None of them
are one hundred percent correct about anything in my view,
And I think if you are short circuiting your thinking
and just kind of adopting whatever position you perceive your
tribe to be on, you're probably doing yourself short thrift
because you probably have a more nuanced take on things

(01:33:12):
if you realize it. And frankly, it's just boring to
agree all the time. It's more fun to have a
different view, to push back on things, to be devil's
advocate a little bit.

Speaker 15 (01:33:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Well, it's good because I've always said name it, Brett.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
You know, you got to challenge your beliefs every once
in a while too, to go are.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
My beliefs really?

Speaker 37 (01:33:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Are they based in reality? It's a data in facts?
Do they hold up? And I think so many people
nowadays because everything's an identification. I identify as this, and
this is this is who I am. So if I'm
right or left, that is who I am. And I
don't want anything to pierce the armor of my beliefs.

Speaker 43 (01:33:44):
Yeah, and then you end up saying ridiculous things and
not realizing that you're doing that. I mean, the CNN
hit was a good example. One of the people on
there described Trump offering people buyouts if they wanted to
resign from the federal government, including eight months paid severn
as him terrorizing federal employees. Now, that's the kind of

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thing that in any normal room would be laughable, would
be risable, right, Like, you're not terrorizing people by offering
them the voluntary chance to resign and get eight months
paid vacation. Most people get laid off all the time
in corporate America and are lucky to get a fraction
of that. Every day people work and don't get any
severance at all. And it's only voluntary, right, But in

(01:34:25):
an echo chamber where everyone is of a certain perspective.
You can find yourself saying silly things and not even
realizing how silly they are.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Talking to Brad Palombo brand versus everyone YouTube. Go check
it out he is. He'll open your mind and make
you laugh too, because you also have crazy people on
there when you're talking about him, Like some of the stuff,
was it whoopy in them the other day with all
the trans people and just oh my god, it was
just insane.

Speaker 43 (01:34:49):
Yeah, there's kind of a never ending supply of the Lulu,
as I would put it, just coming from the Internet,
coming from mainstream media, coming from the LGBT community. A
lot of these people haven't learned the lessons of recent
years and really are kind of unrepentant and strident in
their fringe views, which is entertaining but certainly not good

(01:35:10):
for our country in any long term sense. So I
tried with all this stuff to laugh about it, because
if not, you find yourself getting really bummed out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
You know, you talk about like the de Lulu and
all that kind of stuff. I've said this for the
last couple of weeks. Every time I turn around, I
look at the Democratic Party and I think, you guys
are getting.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Weaker, your rudderlesship.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
You're going with the wind taking you to a place
you don't want to go.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
And then you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Double down and it's like they've not learned anything about
what took place in November.

Speaker 43 (01:35:42):
No, they haven't. And the funny thing is like, it
shouldn't be that hard to beat Donald Trump. It shouldn't
be that hard to have a palatable alternative, because whether
you love him or hate him, he's chaotic and he
does divide opinion. So there's a lot, there's a lane
that if they could just be sane and normal, I
think a fair number of people might be drawn back

(01:36:03):
towards them. It's kind of an intrinsic thing in politics
that people move towards the side that's not in power.
So like when a president gets elected, the other side
often wins the next midterms. The Democrats are just doubling
down on the crazy I mean one of their top priorities. Yesterday,
a bunch of them just unveiled a slavery reparations bill.
That's a crazy idea that would cost like fourteen trillion dollars.

(01:36:25):
You'd have to tax tens and thousands of dollars from people,
and it would just divide America up by race in
a very divisive way of polls terribly. They're like, yeah,
that we'll lead with that. That's how we'll lead with
our Trump resistance. It just shows to me. I mean,
you saw this at the DNC nominations for the vice
chair and chair recently. They had the Land acknowledgment, They

(01:36:48):
had the hubbub over what to do with a non
binary candidate and their gender balancing rules, and then there's
the constant hysteria. These people are talking as if Trump
is going to bring about the Handmaid's tail or aggregation
or whatever, and they discredit themselves as legitimate opposition. It
really shouldn't be that hard no offer an alternative.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Well, that's I've often wonders, like when you were on
with CNA, because I've done a couple of those things,
and I just they ask some of the most insane
questions as I almost feel like they'll they're getting on
the phone because they've done a couple hits with like
Nancy Grace and stuff like that, and they're like trying
to pump you up, and I'm like, are you being
serious right now?

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Do you want to say some ridiculous because that's what
they're looking for.

Speaker 43 (01:37:29):
Yeah, it is unfortunate. That's kind of just a cable
news business. They are looking for you to say something outrageous.
They're also looking for somebody that's like, very reliably going
to give them like a Team Red or a Team
Blue take. So sometimes it can be unpredictable if they
book someone like me, and it's a little harder to
get booked because you know what, depending on what the
story of the day is, I might agree with Trump
or I might disagree with him, because I actually have

(01:37:50):
opinions and principles and values and I apply them to
whatever's going on. I don't decide based on the person
saying it. So there were even one or two times
when Biden was present, even though I'm on the right politically,
where I supported things that he did, specific things, and
I disagree with most of it. But that's the thing
they're actually not looking for is critical thinking. They're looking,

(01:38:12):
typically in that kind of scenario, for someone, preferably somebody
not that bright, that they can just demonize and beat
up and kind of gang up on and own to
do fan service to their own side. Now I will
say that show with Abby Phillip is a little bit
of a different example. She actually has genuine diversity on there,
and I'm sure she gets pushed back from network executives

(01:38:32):
about it, but most of the time they're looking for
a caricature to shadowbox with more than they're looking for
a substantive conversation with somebody with different but nuanced views.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Talking to Brad Plumbo, he's got a YouTube show that's awesome,
che could ask called Brad Versus Everyone.

Speaker 43 (01:38:47):
You do it daily, right, yeah, Monday through Friday, with
bonus episodes on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
What's the like? What's what's the time frame?

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Do you put something like that together with you if
you have guess or are you working on a like
from the moment you get up through through the midday
before you release it.

Speaker 25 (01:39:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 43 (01:39:01):
I'm a one man show, so I'm preparing and filming
and editing basically every day and then trying to get
it out by the early evening. It's also available on
audio feeds so Apple, Spotify all that. Brad Versus Everyone.
I'm a one man show for now, but it's doing
really well, growing really fast, and I think a lot
of people appreciate entertaining content that will also inform you,

(01:39:25):
because it can be tiresome to listen to just serious
stuff all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
That's what life is, right. I have a six year old.
She was excited yesterday because she got a brand new
doll brand. It was the most amazing thing ever. It
was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
She played with it all night. She didn't care about dough.

Speaker 25 (01:39:40):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
What do you think of the dog? I said earlier?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
I think they I think Elon is as much a
problem for them as far as they're building up the
class warfare. He's everything that Central Casting would give them
the progressives to fight against, and that's been a lot
of their focus, as much as it is about getting
rid of some of the stuff that they'd love.

Speaker 43 (01:40:00):
I think it gives them a good pantomime villain to
kind of put against. And I do think it's funny
that the liberal media like MSNBC are all saying President Musk,
they're just trying to get under Trump's skin. I actually
predict that there may be a feud or a rift
between the two of them sometimes because two people with
that much ego, not in a bad way, but ego

(01:40:20):
in the sense of like being such a huge character
and filling up a room two men like that often
I think struggle to share the spotlight. I think I
support a lot of the goals of dog. Obviously, we've
got a massive set of government with insane levels of
bloat and waste. I worry to some extent about the
chaotic way in which some of it is being done.
And I guess that worries me because some of it

(01:40:42):
is being done a little bit haphazardly in a way
that could kind of damage or taint the cause of
fiscal conservatism. And then honestly, it is great to crack
down on all the DEI spending. I mean, we're funding
like transgender musicals and random African countries. Some of the
stuff they've uncovered is insane. But in terms of the
federal budget, entitlements are driving us off a cliff. Yeah,

(01:41:05):
and this stuff is I don't want to say it's
like not a significant amount of money. We're talking about
billions of dollars. It's a lot of money, but it's
not enough to save or change the trajectory of our
federal finances around the edges. You need real systemic reform,
and I don't think those is going to get us
that because it would require cutting into things that Trump

(01:41:25):
and basically everyone is unwilling to touch, like Medicare, like
social security, like Medicaid, like the military budget. Perhaps, although
even that, you can't balance the budget just from that.
So I think it's a good thing for sure in
some ways, but I worry a little bit about the chaos,
and I'm not sure it can solve the bigger issue problems.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
No, That's one of the things I've talked about is, look,
this is all great. You are cutting around the edges,
and you can save some stuff, I think, and make
it more efficient, maybe knock off ten percent, you know,
twelve fifteen percent, that'd be great. But unless we're going
to address the reality that elephant in the room, which
is medicair, soil security, and even to a certain extent,
the military, which I think is the best shot they

(01:42:06):
have getting into the Pentagon with peak heagset and getting
some of these contracts that we signed to produce stuff
that we no longer need or use.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
But you got to fill that contract.

Speaker 43 (01:42:16):
Yeah, I mean the military one is tough because there
is that big constituency that wants that budget to get
bigger and bigger and funnels it to their friends. I
used to live in the DC area and you'd walk
by beautiful, gorgeous Raytheon and Boeing buildings that you knew
were just paid with with your tax dollars. And obviously
we need a strong military. I'm not convinced we need

(01:42:37):
to spend quite as much as we do, like more
than the next ten countries combined or whatever. But it
is a bit of a misnomer when Democrats are liberals
focus on just cut the military budget. The math there
doesn't math. You could not balance the budget just from
military cuts alone. And obviously it's still going to be
a very significant expenditure in such a big, big and
dangerous world. But maybe somebody like Pete Hegset, an outsider,

(01:43:00):
will be willing to shake things up a little bit.
He's already cut out the identity months, which I know
upset people's feelings, but I think by and large, I
have no issue with I think the military. You know,
we're still obviously going to honor and acknowledge Black History
Month as society, even Trump acknowledged it. But the military
is not the place for identity politics. It's the place

(01:43:21):
for raw efficiency and brutality to keep America safe and
I'm fully supportive of that, even though some people seem
to think it's the end of the world if they
don't get to put pronouns in their email signatures from
their Pentagon dot gov.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Which is so is it the weirdest? Like the military
has meant for this, Brad. You you get broken down,
they build you back up. Now goes crush and kill things.
That's it.

Speaker 43 (01:43:44):
Yeah, never served. So I can't speak to this, but
unity is very important right from what i've what I hear,
and dividing people up by their identities like this I
think we've realized as a society is not unifying. It
is divisive.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Yeah, it's it's it's a weird world, man. I love
having you on. I appreciate it. Love watching your show.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Tell everybody where they can reach out to you if
they want to check out your Twitter and everything.

Speaker 43 (01:44:07):
Yeah, check out the Brad Versus Everyone podcast wherever you
get podcasts or on YouTube or just search Brad Plumbo
and any social platform Instagram, Twitter, all that, and yeah,
thank you for having me on.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 42 (01:44:16):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 43 (01:44:18):
Bye.

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If you have a chance, go check out his YouTube
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It is very very good.

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He's entertaining, independent, leans right and is enjoyable to watch
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He kind of tells it like it is and I
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I coup over that house there, Okay, And there's an
invite to a party on February fifteenth.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
But once a step on the cory, it was it
was fun and just being out there again felt amazing.

Speaker 15 (01:47:54):
The Vatican does he not?

Speaker 17 (01:47:55):
So he's got a wall around protect his people and himself.

Speaker 13 (01:47:58):
But we can't have a wall round ninety.

Speaker 18 (01:47:59):
Stay about doing the work on censoring the American people.

Speaker 19 (01:48:18):
It is the weakest Donald Trump has ever looked, Yes,
as he couldn't even really stop the.

Speaker 15 (01:48:23):
Child from talking.

Speaker 25 (01:48:24):
I think Democrats should join the club and then have
more credibility to actually raise the alarm.

Speaker 13 (01:48:29):
About constitutional issues right now. It's the boy who cried wolf.

Speaker 20 (01:48:32):
There is nothing to it's a war torn area. We're
gonna take it. We're gonna hold it, We're gonna cherish it.

Speaker 17 (01:48:40):
We have this unelected fourth unconstitutional branch of government.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Oh, I'd like it to be closed immediately.

Speaker 20 (01:48:46):
Look at the Department of Education is a big kanjab man.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
That was a hell of a week, And what a
way to end it right here on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
Who knows what's gonna happen? It's no fo all this week?

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Right, Baseball is still a couple of weeks away from
even spring training.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
People are looking around going, what what are we gonna
there's no football, there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
You know what that means? You're gonna have to hang
out with your family again? Ahh right, who would have
thought you had to do that? Sorry, don't worry though,
Only nine more months and I guess football's back.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
Three two, three, five, three, eight, twenty four, twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Three At you had Benson shows, your Twitter or your
Instagram all the other things. Have a blessed weekend. We'll
do it again on Monday. It's always not Jack, this

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Is the Chad Benson Show.

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