Many Americans See Trump's Actions on Economy as Too Erratic, Reuters/Ipsos Poll Finds

Many Americans see Trump's actions on economy as too erratic, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds. Friday Sound Salad. Trump to use 'Alien Enemies Act' to supercharge deportations, target gangs. Judge orders thousands of federal workers reinstated. Protests at Trump Tower. Zach Abraham of Bulwark Capital Management. Jim Kennedy, Kennedy Institute for Public Policy Research. 

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The economy, the economy, the economy, How do you feel?
That's the one thing I continue to ask people every day.
When I see people, I ask how are you feeling
about the economy. It's a mixed bag. People have optimism
that things are going to be okay, but they all
say the same thing. They're very nervous. They're very, very

(00:39):
very nervous. And a lot of that has to do
with the stock market. They look at the stock market
and they're like, oh my god, oh my god, oh
my god. And we're going to talk to our buddy
Zach Abraham, ch investment officer a little bit later about it,
because he and I chatted a bit yesterday just going
back and.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Forth, and.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like I've told everybody about the stock market for years,
is you need the corrections? We How many times have
we talked about how you know much this market seems
to be out of control, where the prices don't warrant
the actual reality of it. And you know, sometimes it's
good to shed some of the stuff and get back
to a balance here.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
But it is still about the consumer.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
The each and every single day thing that you and
I do, we purchase if our confidence is there. It's
a win for all of us if we don't have
confidence in the not just this, I mean the stock market. Again,
that's a long term play, but that's one of the
indicators that people look at. But I talk about the
everyday thing that you and I do, which is consume,

(01:45):
because we're the ones who have made this economy, and
there's a difference between the stock market and the economy.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
The consumer has been the pillar of the economy through
it all, continuing to spend through high inflation, through high
interest rates. But now we're starting to see some cracks
and consumer sentiment is now falling. That starts to domino
throughout the economy, and that's why some economists are now
raising the odds of a recession later this year early next.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
The r word ah, and the tariff thing doesn't how
I have no idea what we're tariffing at this moment,
because as quickly as I say there's tariffs, five minutes
later they're like, we took those off, but they never
even started, or we decided to pause those. And people

(02:35):
aren't thrilled by the tariff thing because they hear that
things that they like may go up, they may not
go up.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
They're not quite sure because tariffs. They don't understand the entire.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Way that tariffs operate, which is understandable and quite frankly,
right now, there's whiplash with that.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
A new Quinnipiac poll shows most Americans are unhappy with
Trump's trade war with America's neighbors. Fifty eight percent disapprove
of how he's handling trade with Canada, will only thirty
six percent approve, and fifty six percent disapprove of how
he's handling trade with Mexico, with thirty seven percent approving. Overall,
fifty four percent of Americans disapprove of how Trump is

(03:17):
handling the economy.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Forty one percent approve.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Some people they will ride with Trump forever and everything
that's great. I will tell you this, and I've said
it a million times, not only is the economy stupid,
but the confidence in the economy matters. And there are
things going down, there are things that are looking up.

(03:43):
But the teriff war, we're fighting with our neighbors, where
all of these things, the negativity that it's out there,
there's no doubt it is pushing people to get even
more and more nervous because they keep thinking they hear
the R word, no, not that word recession.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Then everybody starts getting in their own head, and then
all of a sudden, the confidence drops, and oh my god,
I understand, man. Let me tell you something. I understand
big time. I understand big time, our man, lonely Scott.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
Corrections are not unusual. I mean during the bull market
from twenty nine to twenty twenty, I think we even
had five corrections during that period. We tend to have
them every couple of years. It's not unusual. They tend
to be cyclical. There are other signs I think in
the economy that are helping real people. Wholesale inflation is down,
consumer inflation is down. Gas prices are decreasing, mortgage rates
coming down. Egg prices are four dollars and eighty nine

(04:35):
cents today. They were six dollars and fifty five cents
on January twenty first.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean again, all things that are consumer based, because
we tend to equate the stock market with the overall
economy and main Street Wall Street two separate issues. Both
are needed for a strong economy. Let's not pretend that
they're not, but we equate if the stock market's going gangbusters.

(05:05):
Everything is great. This stock market is completely overbought. You've
heard Zach and I talk about it. I've talked about it.
I joke about it.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I was on yesterday with Chicks on the Right It's
filling in this week for Amy Joe, and we joked
about the fact that you know that how ridiculous some
of these prices are.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
And I said, Zach always hits me with.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
The craziness of costco trading. It like sixty five times earnings,
and I keep saying, I don't know how many hot
dogs you have to sell to justify that, but it's
that kind of stuff is insane. So again, equating the
stock market with the individual who really isn't in the

(05:57):
market outside of their four oh one k and they're
not retiring anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think we put too much pressure on too many things.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You don't want the market to crash, but a resetting
is not the worst thing.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
Stock market's correct about every eighteen months as much as
ten to twenty percent. We're right in the middle of
that right now.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
It's actually healthy.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
I mean, it feels terrible when it's occurring, but corrections
have been part of the market for one hundred and
fifty years.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Let's get over that. Kevin o'lary, mister wonderful.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
Tariffs in this situation are not long term yet. Even
Ludnick today said he's having the premiere of Ontario tomorrow
morning for discussions to bring down the heat on car
and electricity issues. Now, tariffs themselves, nobody understands. If you
ask the average person walking down the street what's a tariff,
they have no idea. What Trump is trying to do

(06:50):
is to reset the tariff schedules that were set in
place after the Second of the War in every single country,
not just Canada, not just Mexico, but Germany and England
and France and Switzerland, India.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
We talked about Germany before you know, we rebuilt their
their country, just like we did rebuilt Japan on tariffs,
telling them, hey, look, tariff all of our goods and
do it to the amount of one hundred percent, and
we'll rebuild your country that way. So, but that was

(07:25):
a long time ago. A lot of those things are
still on. So it is about resetting some of this stuff.
But we have to understand that because things could be reciprocal.
I've heard people talk about wine. I don't drink wine,
so there's something that doesn't affect me. And as we
all know, we look around the world and go, how
does this affect me? If it doesn't, you don't care.

Speaker 8 (07:43):
Very simple, Let's say we make sugar and India makes sugar,
and they put one hundred and ten percent tariff on
our sugar going to India.

Speaker 9 (07:50):
Why don't we just reciprocate?

Speaker 8 (07:52):
So what happens in a trade war where tariffs are
escalated is I would both sides say to each other.

Speaker 10 (07:57):
I do want to distinguish between what you're talking about reciprocal,
which he's promised coming. Yeah, right, he's promised her coming.
I know you don't like Trump's stud No, no, no, I
just haven't liked it for tru I don't want people
to be confused the markets are reacting to right now.
Is Trump saying twenty five percent on Mexico and Canada
and then the next day saying, oh, never mind that
all nego.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And that's also called confusion. And what do we always
talk man? I always talk about you got to keep
it simple stupid for the people. So be out in
front of it, talk about it and ease people's minds.
Think of yourself as a pilot. You're going through some turbulence.
Ease people's minds. This is something we're to go through.

(08:40):
It's going to feel uncomfortable, but we're going to get
through it, and we're going to find some smoother air
three two, three, five, three, eight, twenty four to twenty
three at Chad Benson Show. Is your Twitter tweet at
US text the program. Uh, I don't think there's going
to be a shutdown, which is a bummer, and we
touched on it yesterday. But one of the big reasons
there is probably not going to be a shutdown is

(09:00):
because what would they do and I'm talking about Trump
and the doge folks elon if there was a shutdown,
what could they do? Well, it's the government shutdown, not
so fast.

Speaker 11 (09:13):
Under a shutdown, the Trump administration would have full authority
to deem whole agencies, programs and personnel non essential furlowing staff,
with no promise they would ever be hired.

Speaker 9 (09:30):
Oh right.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
He could essentially say anything that affects the public. So
if you want to go to one of the parks
or some of the stuff that is front facing for
the public to go to, We're going to keep those
some of these other people. Let's find out if we
can run a skeleton crew. Because if we can and

(09:54):
it works, well, then that's great. Then we know if
it's overwhelming, then we know we can't. So it would
be a great way to test. Now, you've got a
lot of people out there screaming, yelling, no, we're going
to shut it down.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
We'll blame it on the Republicans.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And I think you know Republicans who cares if you
get to blame. You always want to talk about let's
shut this thing down. Well, this is a way to
run a for the most part, a real test. Let's
put it to the test. What would a shutdown look like?
But more importantly, not so much a shutdown? What does

(10:36):
a slim down government look like? And can it work?
But Schumer signaled he is going to vote for it,
which means he's going to start now playing the game
of trading. What do you need to get you over
the line? What do you need to get you over

(10:57):
the line? What do you need? What can I do?
Give a little, take a little, give a little, take
a little, so we can get this thing over the line.
Because the fear of blame is one thing, but for
other Democrats, the we want to protect all these civil
servants as much as possible. And the last thing you

(11:19):
want to do if you're trying to protect them is
saying how much you need them, and then to find
out that nobody notices that they're not there, and then
all of a sudden you look up and you're like, oh, man,
he's right. We don't need fifty gazillion of these civil servants.
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Speaker 1 (13:10):
Chad Benson.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
It is Friday, so you know what time it is.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Time to listen back to the craziness, the chaos, the
fun of this past week.

Speaker 12 (13:18):
Yeah, so unless you live in Hawaii or Arizona, you're
going to be feeling a little bit on Monday morning.

Speaker 13 (13:23):
But funding goes away. A kid doesn't get physical therapy
or occupational therapy.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'm going to find it directly to you, because I'm
about ninety nine point nine to nine pertin sure that
is exactly how.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
You need to answer each question with, I'm not a
hundred dollars honking me my mot hole.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I know what I'll say it the Mourdy's burning. I
do my fugget in and do my skin.

Speaker 14 (13:47):
Come money morning, I'll be brons fay free. I'm not
my motoring mogain find.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Time.

Speaker 11 (14:04):
Under a shutdown, the Trump administration would have full authority
to deem whole agencies non essential.

Speaker 15 (14:11):
The reality is that these are on precedent at times.
And I voted against this one because we have to
put some pressure on Elon Musk.

Speaker 16 (14:19):
We can't ever allow the government to shut down.

Speaker 17 (14:36):
His hair was mad at and unkempt, he was very dirty,
and his teeth all appeared to be rotten. Five foot
nine and only sixty eight pounds.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
The Center is now looking for a new full time
monster hunter.

Speaker 18 (14:48):
It's sleep maxim It's a trend where young people maximize
the time it.

Speaker 19 (14:52):
Takes to do their routine before going to bed.

Speaker 13 (14:54):
Hello, everybody, it's JV A U zaidam or turtle for pronouns.

Speaker 20 (14:58):
Congressman, why should men be in women's sports, short sports,
Why do you think they should be in shorts?

Speaker 21 (15:05):
And so that's really better for boys?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Wow?

Speaker 22 (15:17):
Trump Today, the Trump administration took one more step on
their authoritarian march.

Speaker 23 (15:25):
My husband was kidnapped from our home, and it's shameful
that the United States government continues to hold him.

Speaker 24 (15:34):
You tell us when you applied, Hi, I'm trying to
get into the United States on a student visa. I
am a big supporter of hamas, so we would deny
your visa.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I hope three two, three, five, three eight, twenty four
to twenty three at Chad Benson Shows, your Twitter tweet
at US texta program right here at the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 12 (15:51):
I am here today because I know in my bones
as an American Jew, how dangerous it is when the
government starts abducting legal residents that they disagree with.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Indeed, we've been talking about that, will continue to talk
about that. But at Jim Kennedy Kennedy insitued a public
policy research going to join us in a third hour
to talk about that. I think it's important we continue
to talk about that. Free speech absolutists, that is me.
I will continue to do that over and over again,
because there is a reason that we are who we

(16:21):
are in this country, and that is because of free
speech and our due process. So we shall see what
takes place. A lot more to get to on that
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Speaker 9 (17:40):
Chad Benson, Joe.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, ready for the next controversy, the Aliens Enemies Act.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
It is it about the aliens coming down? Are they
finally admitting it?

Speaker 19 (18:12):
Now?

Speaker 25 (18:12):
In major breaking news, the Trump administration as soon as
tomorrow is expected to invoke the Alien Enemies Act of
seventeen ninety eight.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
This is the same act.

Speaker 25 (18:23):
That allowed the US to detain Japanese folks and in
tournment cams during World War Two. And it's important to
note that later the internment of Japanese folks in the
US was was deemed unconstitutional, but it took decades.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, so that could go into you know, be invoked
at some point today. That's what everybody you know that
people are talking about it. People in the right like, yeah,
it's about time everybody slow the role on this, Okay,
And I'm gonna tell you guys this right now.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
And I've been.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Completely on board with If somebody is here and they
hate our country and they are working against our country,
and they are going out and participating in things that
are violent, hate filled and they're not they're not citizens,

(19:28):
then you have every right to kick him out. But
I do not want you to blow smoke. And I
say that because the more I read, the more I see,
the more questions I have about the case involving my
mood khlil, because I want to know what you have.

(19:54):
You keep telling everybody you've got all this stuff on him.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well where is it?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
You keep saying you've got all of this stuff on
this guy and all these things he's done.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okay, well just provide a little bit of that, just
a smidge of that now.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
If you just want to kick him out of the country,
you know, for front and giggles because you want to
make a point. Okay, that's okay, if that's what you're
gonna do. But don't tell me he is a threat
to everything. Don't tell me he's all of the stuff
and you've got all this information, You've got all this
stuff based on you know, flyers and this, that and

(20:38):
the other. Because one thing I'll tell you is I've
seen a lot of interviews with this guy, and he
didn't seem to be the man that they say is
full of all this hate. He may be pro Palestinian,

(20:59):
but he doesn't seem to be very much pro Hamas.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
He doesn't talk about how much he hates the Jews.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I just like to see it, wouldn't you, Because
my thing is I want to be better than the
other side, who has weaponized stuff, who did try to
shut speech down. I want to see the due process.
I want it done the right way, and you should
want it done the right way too. If the goal

(21:30):
is just to kick a bunch of people out that
you want to kick out because you think they're polar
opposite belief of what capitalism, Americanism, Westernism, USA, all that stuff. Okay, okay, fine,
Fine to just be open and honest about that, because
everything that I have seen in the last twenty four

(21:54):
to forty eight hours that says he is this, this.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
And this.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
You come to find out when you do more recent
none of that. And let's not forget. The internet doesn't forget.
The Internet doesn't forget, and I keep waiting for all
this explosion of stuff and I haven't seen it, So
don't blow the smoke. I think all of us deserve,

(22:20):
you know, if you're going to start doing this, because
you because the thought is they're going to do this
across a ton of campuses, and it's already starting.

Speaker 26 (22:29):
There's controversy over the decision to try to deport that
former Columbia student Mahmoud Khalil over national security concerns that
were determined to be in place by Marco Rubio.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Are you at all worried.

Speaker 26 (22:44):
That a future Democrat administration would use that same provision
to try to deport conservative students studying here in the
United States?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
That right?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
There was Lori Ingram last night talking to jd Vance.
Jd Vance's answer.

Speaker 27 (23:00):
Well, if it was an American citizen, it would be
a different conversation. If a Democrat tried to do that
to an American citizen, of course, talking about green cards,
that would be that would be a problem. But Laura,
a Green card holder, even if I might like that
green card holder, doesn't have an indefinite right to be
in the United States of America. Right, American citizens have
different rights from people who have green cards, from people
who have student visas, and so my attitude on this

(23:23):
is this is not fundamentally about free speech, and to me, yes,
it's about national security, but it's also more importantly about
who do we as an American public decide gets to
join our national community.

Speaker 9 (23:35):
And if the Secretary of.

Speaker 27 (23:35):
State and the President decide this person shouldn't be in
America and they have no legal right to stay here,
it's as simple as that.

Speaker 26 (23:42):
Do you see more such deportations happening.

Speaker 27 (23:44):
I think we'll certainly see some people who get deported
on student visas if we determine that they don't it's
not of the best interest of the United States to
have them in our country. So yeah, I don't know
how high that number is going to be, but you're
going to see more.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
People, which, again, if the goal is I just want
to get these people out of here because they are
not what we want as a nation, et cetera. You know,
whatever they come up with because they hate America or
they hate the West. Okay, Okay, just say that, but

(24:15):
don't say we've got all this information. You haven't charged
him with anything. You haven't charged him with anything. I
don't want to be lied to. And if you're fine
being lied to, knock yourself out. But I don't want
to be lied to. This guy's a threat, you know,

(24:36):
because we hear that all the time. He's a threat.
He's a threat.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
That's what we've been hearing. And I don't want this
to be.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well, you know what, we're going to toss everybody out
who that we think hates Israel or that is this,
that and the other. If he's done stuff, absolutely he
doesn't have a right to be here. If your goal
is just to kick him out, use him an example,
all right, well then just just go and do that.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
But don't blow smoke. Don't blow smoke.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And I feel like, you know, much like with still
waiting for JFK, right, still waiting for MLK, still waiting
for the Epstein file, still win for all, we're going
to do all these things, We're gonna expose all these things.
A lot of people get very frustrated with these things,
so I know, and I'm going to get pushed back

(25:32):
by some people. And I tell you what, it's very interesting.
I got a text the other day from a January
sixth person who said the not filing charges and holding him,
not giving him the opportunity to speak to his attorney.
They were like, this guy, you know, I may not

(25:53):
like what he stands for, but nobody knows what he
stands for out there. It's just whatever somebody says. Anymore, Well,
he's an evil person. Okay, Why what's the basis in that? Well,
because I just want to know. He may be evil,
he may hate the West, he may hate all of
those things. But what I've seen all the interviews, I
don't get that feeling.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Doesn't mean he does, you know, is all about the
same beliefs and capitalism things like that. But you know
name of kidd on college campus that is anymore. It's frustrating.
It is three two, three, five, three eight, twenty four
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(26:40):
guy said, look, I just you know, I couldn't talk
to a lawyer for days. It was very frustrating. I
didn't know what I was really getting charged with. I
how frustrated would you be? That's a fair question. And
my thing is I support the administration. I wanted to

(27:01):
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Speaker 3 (28:45):
Chad Medsin show.

Speaker 28 (28:54):
Deep States No Deep Doo doo Eavis and show.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Now it's time for the chat action news weather reports.

Speaker 9 (29:07):
When weather weather's we weather the storm.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
We do weather the storm. Everybody knows we weather the storm.
That's what we do. That's when weather weathers and weathers
weathering all over the country.

Speaker 29 (29:17):
We're starting a multi day severe weather outbreak. The storm's
gonna have damaging wind, hail and tornados all the way
from Cedar Rapids to Jackson, but Saint Louis and the
crosshairs level four out of five for severe weather, it's
the second highest risk. Then that shifts to the Gulf Coast,
to Warlings, to Birmingham on Saturday, even some severe storms
up to the Ohio Valley, a weaker version to the
East Coast by the time we get into the weekend,

(29:39):
but still some damaging winds from Jacksonville all the way
to DC and Philly.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's going to be nasty everywhere. So we've got rain
right now. I'm out near Nashville, some rains coming through.
We got some bit of nastiness, but tomorrow it is
supposed to be awful. When we got an email last
night that hey, everybody be prepared to come in from
a local station here any of the hosts, and I
am the closest. My walk is about five minutes or

(30:04):
so to get there, but I have to drive because
they're expecting it to be so bad. We may be
getting tornado watches throughout the next oh I would say
probably starting later on tonight, for you know, at least
until early Sunday morning.

Speaker 29 (30:20):
This storm could be a real wrecking balls it moves
across the country. Now right now it's rain and mountain
snow confined to the west, but out ahead of the storm,
way out ahead of it, a surge, a win, an
unseasonable warmth, and that's elevating the fire danger. So you
have red flag alerts across a dozen states.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, chaos, craziness, lunacy. And California got hit nasty style
with mega rain, which of course leads to issues after
the fires of you know, mudslides and things like that.
But they got hit with a tornado and I think
the Pico Rivera area or something.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's crazy.

Speaker 30 (30:56):
The time it happened around three point fifteen AM, a
little right before for that.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's around the time my mom.

Speaker 19 (31:01):
Leaves for work.

Speaker 30 (31:02):
So thank god she wasn't out here, because you know,
a car is replaceable.

Speaker 18 (31:07):
My mom's not.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Oh, that was an earthquake first, because I know we
used to there. It was not an earthquake.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
It was definitely not an earthquake. So if you're weathering
the weather this weekend, be careful out there because it
could be ugly.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Ugly.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Indeed, speaking of ugly, yet another issue when it comes
to an airline.

Speaker 31 (31:31):
Wow, American Airlines plane on fire at the Denver International Airport.

Speaker 19 (31:37):
This happened just a few moments ago.

Speaker 31 (31:39):
And this video isn't circulating on social media showing the
plane being extinguished as it was on the tarmac at
the airport, not far from where the gate was.

Speaker 19 (31:48):
And look at what you're looking at here.

Speaker 31 (31:50):
Passengers standing on the wings of the plane, some of
them carrying their bags as they seem to be trying
to evacuate this plane. As you can see the smoke
filled as the tarmac and emergency workers nearby trying to
get stairs up to those passengers standing on the wing
of this plane.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
There's something on the wing. What is it? It's a passenger.

Speaker 31 (32:09):
Now Here's what we're hearing from the FAA. They say
this Boeing seven thirty seven was headed to Dallas. It's
going from Colorado Springs. It diverted to Denver that there
was some sort of engine vibration. We don't know exactly
what as we are looking at this, but these are
just the videos that we're getting in. You can see
the emergency response people responding very quickly to this.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, they did the right thing. Nobody was hurt, but
still it's another issue. I was on an American flight
last week, four of them.

Speaker 32 (32:37):
Actually, this was a situation involving a mechanical malfunction of
the engine in flight that did not really erupt into flanes. Fortunately,
the crew did exactly the right thing and got the
airplane on the ground as rapidly as.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Possible, which is what you want with your pilot.

Speaker 32 (32:52):
Pilots are able to get the airplane on the ground,
the fire department got the flame zogs fest as they started,
everybody got off the airplane. I mean, this really is
a pain to how aviation safety.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Works, and we touched on it yesterday.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
The fear that people have of flying is growing tremendously
and it's actually starting to affect some people's bottom lines.

Speaker 16 (33:18):
There.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know, it's funny. I've heard more people say, look,
I feel more comfortable flying internationally on the big jets
than I do on some of these smaller jets. Now
this was a I think a seven thirty seven, so
it wasn't one of those tiny little commuter jets that
he only have, you know, two seats on each side
and the and the engines in the back.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
But I see why. I mean, you know, it's top
of mine.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
There's a fear of what's happening out there, and because
of social media, because of the access instantaneously to things
we've never seen before. You know, you'd hear about bad turbulence. Well,
now people are filming it, and you're like, oh my god,
or this kind of thing too. I mean, not only
were people on the plane filming it, but all the

(34:04):
other planes that were landing they all took out their
cameras and those people are filming it too. So it
makes a thing like every time you turn around, there's
a plane on fire or something like this is happening,
and we all know that's not true, but in our
mind we think, oh my god, one more little plane.
Note this a sad story because people were stuck on

(34:27):
the ground, but a happy story because somebody said, you
know what, I've had enough of this, I'm hungry.

Speaker 9 (34:33):
Weather delays the flight.

Speaker 33 (34:34):
Sitting at the gate of Charleston, South Carolina's airport, already
three hours late. Passengers who were on board didn't want
to get off the plane in case it took off,
so one passenger splashed some cash to make the weight
a little easier. The hero passenger calling a pizza place
that was right next to the plane's gate and had
the pizza delivered to the plane. Light attendants passing out
slices to everyone and maybe the rest of their weight

(34:56):
to take off wasn't quite so bad.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, I'm glad they let that food on because you know,
sometimes they're like that, you're just kind of stuck here.
So that was a smart thing. Don't let the people
get angry. Do what you can to keep them happy,
because otherwise it's chaos. Did you see that guy started
fighting all the flight attendants because he said, the demons
we're coming to get him again. Social media great thing,

(35:23):
but it gives us an insight into everything that's happening.
Three two, three, five, three eight, twenty four to twenty
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A lot of stuff to get to our number two.
I've got the Wheel of Surprise. It's always fun. But
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(35:53):
what's going on in the marketplace and if it's a
needed thing, because I think some people out there and
myself included, that this market needs to find its real
footing and that this is actually a good thing with
some of these numbers, that we're seeing a lot of

(36:14):
other stuff to get to. If you miss any of
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Speaker 1 (36:24):
This is the Chad Benson Show, the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
We're just weeks into Trump's presidency and it's moving at
lightning speed, and it scares therap out of some people.
And you've got Elon Musk and things are all over
the place. And one of the things that's happening is
and has happened for a long time, is little arguments

(37:13):
here and there at town halls. Because if you're a congressperson,
right you go back, you hold a town hall, sit
down with people, sometimes in your office.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
But the town halls are getting spicy. Man getting spiy.

Speaker 34 (37:28):
A Republican congressman's town hall erupting into chaos. North Carolina
Congressman Chuck Edwards getting an earful on everything from President
Trump's tariffs to Elon Musk's downsizing of the government, the
crowd often booing when Musk or Trump was mentioned.

Speaker 35 (37:46):
Elon Musk has brought a lot of really smart people.

Speaker 34 (37:49):
To those two thousand people showing up, fewer than four
hundred were allowed in.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
And how many of those were actually his is constituents,
which is also something you have to think about because
a lot of times they're not the constituents you think.
There are people who show up because they just want
to throw a fit, et cetera, et cetera. I do
not know how many of them were, but it was interesting.

Speaker 35 (38:16):
The American people sent President Trump back to the White
House and Republican majorities in the House and Senate, where
they were they clear mandate to restore America's economic comminence,
get government out of their way to the greatest extent possible.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, he uh.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
In fact, some of them aren't holding these anymore. I'm
glad he went. I mean a normal time, you're not
getting two thousand, you're not getting four hundred. Hell, you
may not get forty people to show up at one
of your many townhalls.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
You could only inside a closet.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
But the activism is real, and people are getting out
there and they're pissed and angry, and they're are and
it's funny because a lot of people they don't even
know why they're pisted angry.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
You don't even has this affect you. I asked somebody
yesterday how they are so angry about all of this
stuff going on, and I said, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Tell me how this affects you. It hasn't yet, Okay,
but do you see it coming down the line affecting you.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
So it's just about Trump, it's just about Elon. It's
just it's about them, not so much about the effect
that has on your life.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
This was a funny question.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Detail five things you've done this week to protect our democracy? Yeah, spicy, Hey,
good on you for going. I gotta say that a

(40:20):
lot of people out there they are saying no, thank you.
A lot of people out there are saying, I pass.
I don't want to be a part of this right now.
It's too much, it's not safe. Some of these people,
a vast majority of these people may be paid protesters.
They're not here for a real discussion, you know. It's

(40:41):
so they're there to you know, throw a fit. They're
there to get there, you know, five minutes of internet fame.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
They're not here to have a real conversation.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
And this guy, I mean, he went there to his credit,
old ad here he stood his ground.

Speaker 35 (40:58):
I was proud to vote recently for the House Budget Resolution,
which provides the framework.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Ooh, but he's there, keep going ed. We've got a
lot to be proud of in this country.

Speaker 35 (41:19):
I happen to agree with a lot of the things
that's going on in Washington, DC right now.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I know many of you are not.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, yeah, God bless him. He's like, yeah, yeah, hey,
you know what consequences. You'll have another shot and.

Speaker 35 (41:37):
You and you certainly will have the right in the
next election to cast your vote based off of what
you're here coming from me now.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
But as I always say, the next election will be
decided not on how you feel about elon immigration, Ukraine,
et cetera. The next election, like re election, will be
judged on your bank account. If times is good, good,

(42:08):
If times is bad, time to change.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
The captain.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yesterday, Trump Tower was swarmed by lunatics. Yeah, there was
a bunch of nuts there that weren't interested in anything
than throwing a fit. For the most part, making a scene,
because that's what you've got to do nowadays, You've got
to make a scene. So they go into the Trump
Tower and they do the usual thing. Do you guys

(42:48):
like that, You would think you would bring with all
of the technology today, you would set up a little
DJ thing and bring that so at least your stuff
has a good beat it Scott an Earwig man, I
think about one hundred of them we're arrested, charged with trespassing.

(43:12):
I'm like, you guys know he's not here, right, is
that another place? And this all has to do with
of course mac mood Khalif, who's rested last weekend or
taken into custody or whatever. Still not charged. We talked
about it last hour. I keep hearing all the stuff
he's done. I keep looking for it on the internet.

(43:34):
The internet never forgets. I can't find anything that is
there that shows that he is all the things they
say is, and I'm not saying he's not. But you know,
a proof is a wonderful thing. And when you know that, everybody,
especially in the media, is out to pounce on anything,

(43:57):
measuring twice, cutting once is the best thing you can do.
And then yesterday at Columbia incomes DHS.

Speaker 36 (44:08):
Judicial search quarrants were executed here on campus, specifically in
student housing, looking for students involved in those anti Israel protests.
No action was taken, but it certainly has those students
on edge after this very crazy year. You could say,
on this very campus.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
The anti Israel, anti Semitism, all of that is awful.
I mean, you could be anti Israel and you could
be anti Semitic. And if you're a student that's here
on a visa, you're living in a different world than
if you're a student that is here because you're born
and raised here, or you're a naturalized citizen and yet

(44:50):
don't like Israel and yet don't like Jews. Well you
can knock yourself out at that point in time because
you've got your free speech. Now, Colombia has got a
deal with it. And I've said this on numerous occasions.
These colleges have let these kids run amock and because
of that, they're in the situation they're in. And there's
no doubt that these are messages being sent over and

(45:13):
over again. What other campuses are going to be rated
next is what a lot of people are thinking.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
And if you're here on a visa, you're here in
a green card.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
While the green card you have almost the same amount
of rights as a citizen. It's a different story. If
you hear on a visa it is. So this is
going to get a lot weirder. It is, and they've
turned this guy into a martyr. And I'm a big

(45:53):
fan of do process. I want to see the evidence.
And if you just want to kick him out of
the country, okay, but don't tell me of all this stuff.
And your goal really was to make an example and
kick him out and then you really didn't have anything.
Oh yeah, I wouldn't like that either. Yesterday a judge said, Doge,

(46:15):
you can't.

Speaker 30 (46:16):
The judge said that the government used quote, lies and
gimmicks to unlawfully terminate these workers. He's ordered them immediately reinstated.
It will be a bit of a process of how
this happens if they're walking into their buildings today is
a bit unclear. But the judges ordered these government agencies
to essentially produce a report.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Okay, produce a report. Produce this report. I have said,
the bureaucracy battle that Doge and in particular Elon is
taking on is at what point does he just go

(46:57):
Because it's not about whether or not you can cut
and say I want to cut, cut, cut, these are
the places I think we need to make actual cuts
to But if the protections by the contracts and through
the unions are so tight that they're not going to
allow you to cut the way that you want, when

(47:22):
does that finally get to the point where you just go,
my god, there's just nothing we can do. They have
made it so the court system will protect them at
all costs, which you and I both know is it's
insane to think that there's no way. It's like, what
do you mean if you've got ten people and you

(47:42):
only need two, and out of those ten, half of
them work from home, and they work sporadically, and you
can't get rid of them because they're protected in such
a way.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
My god, how frustrating would that be?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
And when I look at him at times, man, he
looks from straighted. So you let go people, And then
the judge says, yeah, it was a gimmick. It wasn't real, man,
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(49:52):
Maxine Waters.

Speaker 13 (49:54):
Never in our wildest dreams did we think we would
have someone like Trump. Why is he doing this?

Speaker 24 (50:01):
Now?

Speaker 13 (50:01):
We know he wants to be a dictator, we know
he's in love with of that. But what does he
do in gathering all of this power? I think perhaps
it is about gathering the power and bringing us to
our knees so that when he changes America with his
vision that we will be begging for crumbs.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Okay, can you elaborate on that? What should we expect? Maxine?

Speaker 13 (50:29):
Now, all of that worries me, But I'm going to
tell you what I'm worried about. I'm worried that Trump
is on the edge of creating a civil war. He
alluded to it more than once. He alluded to the
fact that if he did not get reelected, that there
could be a civil war.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Oh oh, civil war? Ron Wood, comedian, what do you say?

Speaker 9 (50:52):
Said as much?

Speaker 16 (50:53):
If there is a civil war in this country, it's
going to be a short one, because we out of shape.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
I've talked about that numerous occasions. The only way we're
having a civil war in this country, if it's an
app the South will rise again, not unless they're taking
some mozampic oh man, Chad, I know, right, I got
a lot of them today. Speaking of standards, the military

(51:22):
is looking at standards.

Speaker 37 (51:23):
Defense Secretary Pete Hackseth has ordered a department wide review
of standards, not just fitness standards, but grooming standards, body
composition standards. And this is all because he says he
wants to look at essentially whether the US military is
fit for duty, whether they will be able to meet
the challenges of any adversary around the world.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I think yes, but we need to be fitter as
a nation. Not gonna lie to you myself. Included hand
raised high.

Speaker 37 (51:51):
One of the grooming standards is it says including beards. Now,
that's very interesting because the only people that actually wear
beers are special Operations Forces when they're out in the
field or when exemptions are made for religious observances. And afterwards,
after issuing this memo out to the force, Heseth push

(52:11):
something on X which essentially he said, our troops will
be fit, not fat, Our troops will look sharp, not sloppy.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
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Speaker 3 (52:31):
People are probably going, that's not very fair. No, that's
absolutely fair.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Again, the military is different, and we need to get
back to doing military things, if you know what I mean,
rather than playing these games. What about the women, Pete,
what about the ladies.

Speaker 37 (52:49):
One of the things that we should recall is that
prior to his becoming Defense Secretary, Hegseth was very vocal
in his criticism about the military standards that had allowed
women to serve in combat units. Women have been units
since for decades, but specifically combat units with something that
developed over the last decade, and according to Hank Seth,
he believed that the lords had been that standards had

(53:10):
been lowered to enable women to serve in these combat units.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I just look, first of all, ladies, why unless we've
been invaded and you have no choice.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
Why.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Secondly, we should never lower any standards when it comes
to anything. And there's a difference between giving somebody a
chance and trying to make sure that everybody gets to participate.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
We can all agree on that.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
And some things we should never even think or even
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Sun Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show sad time

(54:43):
of the week.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
We have a little bit of fun called the Real
of Surprise. The you say to yourself, what the hell
is the Real of Surprise?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Well, this is where we have a lot of stories
that we didn't get to during the week, and so
we just number them. We spin the wheel. Whatever the
wheel says, we go to that story. Well, I don't
even know what the story is. Couldn't tell you what
the story is. We play the sound from the story
and we react to it. We talk a little bit

(55:10):
about it. Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready?
Here we go the Wheel of Surprise All right, all right,
all right, Number.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Four, The American people are ready.

Speaker 9 (55:34):
To receive the truth.

Speaker 25 (55:40):
Humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe.

Speaker 7 (55:43):
Humanity is not the only intelligent species.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
We are absolutely not alone. Non human intelligence exists. The
UAPs are real, they're here, and they're not human.

Speaker 38 (55:53):
I spent twenty five years as a senior official with
the CIA.

Speaker 7 (55:56):
I've worked on highly classified UAP program, eight years as
an astrophysicist.

Speaker 32 (56:01):
I served as the fourth Director of National Intelligence, Director
of Aviation Security in the National Security Council.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
The one star admiral after thirty two years of service.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
People to come forward with this, I feel like they've
taken their life in their own haties.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
That is a new documentary that is called The Age
of Disclosure out is coming out. I think you can
get it on a few different places. Was in the theaters,
but it is supposed to be the most comprehensive, the

(56:37):
most in depth, and the really the thing that if
you are a skeptic or you maybe think, yeah, there
could be something, could be something out there, I'm not
quite sure. This supposedly will help you essentially get over
the hump on that. And it's got a lot of

(56:59):
people Timber, who've had on the show, and I've talked
to him on numerous occasions about this congressperson outter in Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
He is he believes or something out there.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I think a lot of these people do, and several
of them, from some of the stuff I've seen outside
of this, didn't want to believe, but now are kind
of like, we can't deny this. And it goes into
the battle not between aliens and whatnot, but between the
race between US and other countries to try to reverse

(57:36):
engineer a lot of this stuff. So this is interesting.
It's called the Age of Disclosure. I think it debuted
at south By Southwest, And if you have a chance,
man check it out. If you even think, man, maybe
maybe there's something I don't know. As for me, I
can't rule it out. That's what I've always said. I

(57:58):
can't rule it out. So if you have a chance,
check out the trailer Age of Disclosure. Were playing the
Wheel of Surprise.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Number eleven.

Speaker 21 (58:20):
The authorities are investigating a suspected arson attack at the
home of a Bayar Pharmaceutical executive, the company famous for
aspirin and a leave and for its merger with Monsanto,
maker of the controversial weak killer roundup. Firefighters in Madison,
New Jersey, quickly put out the fire with no significant
damage and no reported injuries. It comes amid an increase

(58:40):
in threats against high profile executives after the arrest of
Luigi Mangioni in December's killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, this is a horrible story where they have decided
they're pissed and angry. They hate millionaires in millionaires, they
hate successful people. They blame corporations for all kinds of issues,
and they're coming after them to make them suffer and

(59:12):
pay for it.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
And it is.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
You know when you see this stuff on college campuses,
and I'm gonna draw a straight line between a lot
of this stuff. So much of this stuff is cultural Marxism.
It's Marxism one on one. It's not just about Palestine.

Speaker 9 (59:32):
It's not just.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
About you know Mangoni and and you know Brian Thompson,
the United Healthcare executive.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
It is it is a lot more than that.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
And it is it's about these people out there who
not only want to disrupt, but want to tear down
the whole system. And look at somebody like Mangioni as
a hero when he's anything.

Speaker 39 (59:57):
But I think people are frustrated and they see a
way to release their frustration by going after, for example,
CEOs for not them personally, but what they represent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, and it's capitalism.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
It's what they deem to be evil and horrible, and
prophets are bad and everybody, it's just it's it's Marxism,
and it's taught on our campuses and it is insane.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
They we're playing the Wheel of surprise. Number eight.

Speaker 40 (01:00:42):
Kimberly Sullivan stood in a Connecticut court room yesterday, accused
of cruelty and abusing her step son for more than
twenty years. Police say the victim, who is now thirty
two years old, told them he was kept a secret
his entire life, locked away in his eight by nine
foot room, since he was the emaciated man who, at

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five feet nine inches tall, weighed only sixty eight pounds
when he was found by police, according to the Effidavid.
He also told them he would only be given two
cups of water a day, sometimes being forced to drink
out of the toilet, and says he was only allowed
out of his room to do chores for Sullivan. He
says he was pulled out of school in the fourth
grade and had had no contact with anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
If you've not seen this story, it is awful. This
guy was locked up in a room for twenty years,
five foot nine, sixty eight pounds. Just absolutely, it's the

(01:01:48):
thing of the police chief is like, this is the
thing of a horror movie. And think he said in
his thirty some years, he's never seen anything like it.
Just absolutely.

Speaker 40 (01:02:00):
But last month, the Waterbury Fire Department was called to
the home for reports of a fire they say was
started by the man in his room. The man told
first responders he believed it was his only way out.
He was taken to the hospital and that's when officials
learned the details of his living conditions.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
He lit that fire knowing he could very well die.
Could he be locked it out room for twenty years?
And for twenty years he's been trying to get out
of that front.

Speaker 40 (01:02:26):
An attorney for Sullivan denied the claims of abuse.

Speaker 41 (01:02:29):
Absolutely not true. He was not locked in a room.
She did not restrain him in any way. She provided food,
She provided shelter. She is blown away by these allegations.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
She provided food. He's five to nine and sixty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Pounds, not a lot of food obviously, and the gall
of like, ay, this is a lie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
It's all a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
So he did it himself because when they showed up,
they said he was in a room and that room
was locked from the outside.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
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our good buddy and yours Zach Abram, chievestment officer Board Capital.
He's going to make sense out of all this crazy
chaos going on in the markets.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
We'll do that straight to add Chad Benson.

Speaker 28 (01:04:45):
Show irreverence, Like, yeah, so what it's the Chat Fenson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Stock Market's whacky.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I don't know if anybody knows that Zach Abrahm, Chief
Vestment Officer, Board Capital for the show spots of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
All right, brother, uh, people are terrified, you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I think this has been one of those with this
may be the most chaotic week you've probably had, because
a lot of people are asking question like, what the
f is going on?

Speaker 42 (01:05:19):
I'll tell you, man, nobody's wanted to listen to this.
What is happening in the stock market right now? I
think is one hundred percent healthy. I think it makes
one hundred percent sense. I think it makes all the
sense in the world, and in a lot of ways,
I feel like this market is more grounded and more
sober than it's been in a long time. And the
reason I say that is, first of all, we need

(01:05:40):
some perspective. Yes, okay, we are about ten percent off
the all time high. In an average year, the stock
market pulls back at least once between ten to twelve
percent off its high that year. That is a totally
normal occurrence. Second of all, the reason it's killing people
is because people were ear responsibly positioned and all loaded

(01:06:02):
up on the same seven stocks. You and I have
been talking about this for a year. For fifteen years,
the United States market has been the only game in town.
That is how the United States market, that's how the
S and P five hundred has gotten to a point
where it is now equal to seventy percent of global
market cap, by far and away, a record for any market.

(01:06:23):
And when you consider the fact that we make up
fifteen percent of economic activity around the world, seventy percent
is way too much. What's happening is you've got tariffs.
You've got I don't want to use the word a
trade war, because it's not. I would say it's so
far it's a trade squirt gun war.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Okay.

Speaker 42 (01:06:40):
But what all of that stuff does is cause countries
to repatriate capital.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Okay. So look at what's happening in the US.

Speaker 42 (01:06:49):
Dollar down, bonds basically down, not rallying though as stocks fall, right,
So effectively you've got dollar down, bonds down, stock down,
gold up, international stocks up.

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
What does that tell you?

Speaker 42 (01:07:04):
Tells you people are selling US assets. And every time
you see the market rip, you see selling come into it.
I'm this is classic distribution. And what's crazy is you
look at the pain and consternation out there, all the
stocks that are getting hit Chad, they're getting less insane.

(01:07:24):
The other thing I'll tell you is I don't think
we're close to done. I don't see any signs of capitulation.
I don't see any bid coming into duration in this market,
meaning I don't see rates dropping on the long end. Now,
I don't know what markets do from one day to
the next. I have not seen a single sign yet.
It would lead me to believe this broader sell off
is going on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Okay, Zach Abraham, Chief investment Officer, Board Capital, So, yeah,
where is the balance in this market?

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
You think people have.

Speaker 42 (01:07:49):
To remember that when we're looking at wealth or we're
looking at money, everything is relative, you know. So if
you've got the richest guy in a country that's worth
one hundred bucks, doesn't sound like a lot, but he's
still really rich, right by default, because relatively to everybody else,
he's got more money. If you've got a business in
one country or the other, could that business could that
one country be a better geographical location, could it be

(01:08:10):
more stable? Could it make the company more valuable? Yes,
but you need to have some level of uniformity. Right,
Money does not care what multiplies it faster money. Money
does not have a home country bias. Right, It doesn't
prefer Brazil over Finland, Right, you know what I mean.
So where money wants to go is where it's treated
the best, and where it's typically treated the best is

(01:08:32):
where you get the most value. Like I said, I've
got no problem with certain markets, and certain markets should
trade with a premium. But what we're in an effort
right now is I think we've just started, and I
think it's going to be a long process. We've just
started to try to fill in the greatest valuation gap
that we've ever seen in modern market history. And so
what I think you're going to see is I think

(01:08:54):
you'll continue to see a pattern that we refer to
as distribution, which typically happens at the top of markets.
When markets have kind of exhausted themselves to the upside,
that market starts becoming a funding mechanism.

Speaker 9 (01:09:05):
For all other markets.

Speaker 42 (01:09:07):
Right, Capital starts migrating to other places. And I think
that's what started in Earnest and it makes a whole
lot of sense. There's a lot of countries out there
that are going to that have to do these things.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
They don't have a choice.

Speaker 42 (01:09:18):
They got to bring capital back. The other thing that's happening, Chad,
is that if you look, like, here's how lopsided it is.
If you look at the UK, and then you look
at the UK's pension system, less than five percent of
their pension system is invested domestically, less than five Okay,
So when you start seeing these competitive games going on

(01:09:40):
from country to country, okay, it's only a matter of
time until a couple of these countries start offering up
capital incentives to bring money into their country, right, And
people are like, well, the US could do that, And
I'm like, guys, the US has got all the money
in the world right now, right all the capital is
flooded in here from the last twelve years. So, like
I said, I don't think we're on the edge of

(01:10:01):
a collapse, but we'd exhausted the fun flows and now
they've started flowing out to other countries. Like I said,
I fingers crossed man. One thing this job teaches you
is humility. But I'll just tell you right now, this
is one of those times I don't feel like you
have them a lot in this career. This is one
of those times where you're kind of looking around, going,

(01:10:21):
you know what, this seems like a really easy thing
to do. Yeah, right, Like this This makes all the
sense in the world. I'm going from really expensive to
really undervalued. I'm getting quality, I'm getting better dividend income.
I'm getting things that are denominated away from the dollar.
I think the dollar bear market has started. There's a
lot of things out there doing well. It's just not
the stuff that people are concentrated talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Zach Abramchivesment Officer, Board Capital. People want to reach out
to you because they should. They want to get into
your and I tell everybody get into webinar next week.
It'd be foolish not too because you know, you even
said something today, you know you shorted something. Most people
have no idea because they have a cookie cutter thing
guy watching their four one care gala watching. Therefore they're
paying no attention. Yeah, they need to get with you.

(01:11:06):
How do they do it?

Speaker 42 (01:11:07):
Yeah, So easiest way to do it is go to
Bordcapitalmanagement dot com. We've got our webinar coming up on
the twentieth of this month, and in that way, it's
about a forty five minute webinar.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
We just walk you through how we do what we.

Speaker 42 (01:11:18):
Do, and then more specific we're going to have more
slides this time, specifically talking about the situation that we're
currently addressing because it is very historic and to do
well in this environment, you're going to have to do
things that investors haven't had to do in a really
long time. So we're just going to walk you through
that and just show you the data right now. We're
all trying to get you to buy into our view

(01:11:39):
on the world. You know, these things are pretty easy
to see once you see them in chart form. And yeah,
so anyway, go to Boardcapitalmanagement dot com sign up for
the webinar.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
It's free, and.

Speaker 42 (01:11:48):
Yeah, should very at the very least come away with
some more information and better education.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Love it, brother, love talking, and you have yourself a
good one, all right, Thanks for having me Man, fun
as always. Zach Abrahm right there, Chief Officer, Bulwark Capital.
Love having him on the show.

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Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
We're talking a little bit about Gavin Newsom and the
way that he has.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Kind of done this podcasting thing, and that A it's
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than I think a lot of people think he is
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Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Will there or won't there be a shutdown? I don't care,
do it, don't do it? You know what, you guys, whatever,
I think they'll get it over the line. That's all
you gotta get for me in this hour as far
as that goes, because I just I.

Speaker 32 (01:13:50):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
I don't know. I think anybody knows.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Whatever happens, you guys all slap yourself on the back.
What I do know is nobody wants to get blamed
for it. Apparently Kristin Shildebrand was screaming at the top
of her lungs that they're gonna get blamed for the Democrats,
They're gonna get blamed for it, and so we can't
have a shutdown. So and you've seen Chuck Schumers, he's

(01:14:14):
moving towards Oh, we've got to get this done because
it's infinitely worse, and then Trump can run rough shouting yeah, whatever,
we move on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
There are other things going on out there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Yesterday the doge I have said this, and I got
pushedback a lot of it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
I said, you guys don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
You're you're an idiot, Chad, You're a fool, you're a maren,
you're all the things I said. These contracts with the government,
these union deals with the government, make it way harder
than just slash slash slash.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
And get rid of employees. And because that, I think
what you're gonna find is so much of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
That's why I keeps saying how long until Elon just
throws his hands up and goes, this is this bureaucracy's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
I don't think I can. I can't deal with this.

Speaker 7 (01:15:12):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
It's just it's nuts. I hope he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
But that's the frustration that I think you're going to
see because you're going to see all of these court challenges.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Every one of these people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
That has been fired terminated right reduce forced, they got
the riff, every one of them represented by a union,
every one of them that has the the you know,
certain contracts within the government. These things go right to court.
And yesterday the judge says, yeah, you got to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
You got to re hire him.

Speaker 30 (01:15:48):
The judge said that the government used quote lies and
gimmicks to unlawfully terminate these workers. He's ordered them immediately reinstated.
It will be a bit of a process of how
this happened. If they're walking into their buildings today is
a bit unclear. But the judges ordered these government agencies
to essentially produce a report.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Produce report.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
So it's not that you couldn't get it done and
get them out. You've got to go about a certain way.
I'm still trying to figure this out. And yes, they're
going to jump shop.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
We all know that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
And we're getting, like perfect example, there's a reason that
they move. You know, the Kleil guy. We'll get to
him in a second, to Louisiana from New York. Everybody,
judge shops, that's what you do in this situation. There's
going to be a lot of battles like this. This

(01:16:46):
isn't an easy thing to do to reduce the size
of government. Government doesn't want to get thinner. Government likes bloat.

Speaker 30 (01:16:55):
The judge says that they didn't follow the proper process,
that they've unlawfully turned it in these workers because they've
said that this was for a performance reasons.

Speaker 19 (01:17:04):
He said that in a lot of cases they were.

Speaker 30 (01:17:07):
Not terminated for performance reasons, that they didn't follow the
process established in federal law.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
And that's right. There a big deal established in federal law.
These contracts are ironclad. The unions have these things down
to get rid of somebody. It is a process. It
is about documentation, it is about these are not out
will employees. And because government is the biggest lobbyist of government,

(01:17:37):
it's the big lever of government, and government loves bureaucracy.
Getting rid of these people is a absolute yeomen's job.
You're going to take this thing on and you're not
getting rid of one, you're getting rid of many.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
And let me tell you how hard it is to
get rid of.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Somebody when it comes to the frustrations that people feel
when it comes to unions.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
And this is the federal side of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
So think about this teachers' unions in California, and this
is just a snapshot of this, because every one of them,
it's gonna have a different you know, you may be
this part of the union over here, your contract may
be a little bit different. So even though they're all
federal union members, they're the area they're at, it may
be different. But let's just have a snapshot of the

(01:18:31):
cost to get rid of an underperforming teacher in a
place like southern California. Again, not the same, but parallel.
There are ways that you have to go about doing it.
And because of you know, the unions and how strong
they're I just want to show you how strong some
of these contracts and things are going to because it's
the first time we're really getting a look into the

(01:18:51):
federal side of this and how long this is going
to take. But if this is to be anything similar,
get ready for an adventure kids, Are you ready? Fire
and tenure teacher in southern California, especially in districts like LAUSD,
can be lengthy.

Speaker 7 (01:19:03):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
According to the LA Times and PBS, neither of them
are super right wing, although the LA Times is moving
to the middle. It can take up to four hundred
and fifty thousand dollars or more. They have massive legal
protections making it difficult to dismiss them without just cause,

(01:19:24):
extensive documentation, evidence of unsacked, satisfactory performance, or grounds for dismissals.
The unions can then challenge the decisions, adding to the
cost from there. Riverside County had one school district who
read to pay three hundred and sixty thousand to a
teacher fired for not following transgender policies after eighteen months

(01:19:44):
of the job. There they get tenure, but think about this,
they said, it takes years to get rid of somebody. Now,
I don't know what the federal union strength is. I'm
sure it's pretty good. So so it feels like this
is going to be one of those situations where if

(01:20:05):
we're to at least you know something drawing maybe on
a parallel line, this could be a long, lengthy, lengthy
battle that's going to go on, and that's just our individual,
let alone thousands of people. Three two, three, five, three eight,
twenty four to twenty three at Chad Benson shows your
Twitter sweet at as text to program. Meanwhile, he is

(01:20:28):
becoming a martyr and his attorney is speaking out. One
of the nineteen representing uh My Mood Khalil. She was
on CNN earlier today and they asked her a question
that I thought was a very interesting question dealing with
the ACLU and the KKK.

Speaker 43 (01:20:47):
I remember back in the day, because I am seasoned,
as we call it in in my community, when the
ACLU actually stood up for the rights of the KKK
to speak their peace in public and to take part
in protests or merches. In this instance, is the First Amendment?

(01:21:09):
The main crux of this. Is this all about the
First Amendment? According to the way you all see.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
It, Okay, So that's the question. According to the way
you all see it, is this a First Amendment issue? Now,
remind everybody he's not a citizen. He is here on
a permanent green card, which does offer him a lot
of the same protections as a citizen naturalized or somebody

(01:21:39):
that was actually born here offers them virtually all of
the same protections.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
But but there's always a butt and we'll get to
that in a second. What does she have to say?

Speaker 44 (01:21:52):
Absolutely, this is all about the First Amendment, and it's
all about due process. You know, they have they kidnapped man,
this young student father to be in any minute now,
based on an accusation that he has the wrong political
ideas and he has expressed them. And this isn't just

(01:22:14):
about him. This is a shot across the bow. This
is a message to every university in the country. This
is a message to every member of the faculty in
any university, to all the students. It's an attempt to
bully the universities into submission. It's an attempt to bully
and intimidate students from speaking out, faculty from speaking out,

(01:22:36):
and it's an attempt to bully the rest of us
into being quiet and going with the administration's program. Last
I heard, we were a democracy. This attempt to quell
free speech is absolutely terrifying. If they can disappear somebody
for doing nothing but having ideas that the government disapproves of,

(01:22:56):
it should be terrifying to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Well, it should be, and I'm for due process. It
isn't as black and white as the free speech, because
what is this speech?

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
What have you done? Have you been a part of something?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
But I will say this, I'm still waiting for that
thing where they come out and say look at this,
look at what he said. Here are the flyers. This
is how he's gone about and done things. And I
want to see what all that is about, because I
hear a lot of it and I got a lot
of pushbackers. I talked about this in the first hour.

(01:23:32):
I don't want smoke blown. If you just want to
get rid of the guy, then get rid of the guy.
If that's what you want, knock yourself out. It's my buddy, Sager.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
I call him my buddy. We're not friends or anything,
but I love soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
He hosts with Crystal on Breaking Points, arguably the best
show around that I enjoy watching. And he also said, look,
you know all those things being said, it still doesn't matter.

Speaker 45 (01:23:57):
Look, I mean I talked about this before, but I
know a lot of left just don't want to hear this.
You don't have a right to be here. You are
a guest in our country, and if you're going to
share against the current US government. Good luck to you,
you know, I wish he the best. I don't cardholder, even.

Speaker 19 (01:24:10):
If you're the same First Amendment right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
You have a First Amendment right to say what you want.

Speaker 45 (01:24:13):
The government is right to be able to revoke your systems,
and they're a revoke residence in which they're going to
true even if they provide him due process, and they
can make this case based on the I in s,
he's going to go.

Speaker 7 (01:24:25):
He get.

Speaker 45 (01:24:25):
Maybe it'll take three months, maybe it'll take six, like
you don't have a right to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
A lot of people don't want to hear that, but
that's true. I think there's a lot more to it,
and we're going to find it out. But it is interesting.
And as this thing plays out, watch what happens. You're
going to see a ramp up in protests. You're also
going to see a ramp up of the administration clamping down.

(01:24:52):
You're going to see fear on certain campuses, and you're
going to see louder voices out in the streets rather
than the campuses. And this guy's going to be turned
into a martyr and he's still probably gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
I would just like to know where's all the evidence.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
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That's find out what's trying on the interwebs on this Friday. God,
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That was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
A lot of clouds in a lot of places so
people couldn't see it. Vanessa Trump Acts of Don Junior.
I guess it's dating Tiger Woods and that's apparently a
big deal. People are probably going, who which Trump is?

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Cooper flag the superstar, probably consensus number one pick for
the NBA draft. Place for Duke got injured? Donna Tella
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the helm of Versace. American Airlines another incident, this time
had caught fire. I was on an American Airline flight
last week. This one never even got off the ground.
Alien Enemies Act. Trump expected to invoke a wartime authority
to speed up mass deportations. Talked a bit about that

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throughout the day as well. Head on over to Yahoo
Blood Moon, Donald Trump, wombat the hell are you thinking?

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Lady talked about that last hour.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
So if you didn't know, a influencer grabbed a baby wombat,
an American influencer in Australia, away from its mom. And
she has since departed the country. And she's an idiot
to to say the least. Stop touching animals. Okay, stop

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trending in the magical world of Twitter. Yes, another issue
for an Airlines. This time it didn't get off the ground,
thank god. But the pictures and the videos are crazy,
as a whole bunch of people are standing on the
wing of the airplane as they're smoke everywhere.

Speaker 31 (01:29:34):
American Airlines plane on fire at the Denver International Airport.

Speaker 19 (01:29:39):
This happened just a few moments ago. And this video isn't.

Speaker 31 (01:29:42):
Circulating on social media showing the plane being extinguished as
it was on the tarmac at the airport, not far
from where the gate was. And look at what you're
looking at here, passengers standing on the wings of the plane,
some of them carrying their bags as they seem to
be trying to evacuate this plane.

Speaker 19 (01:29:59):
As you could the smoke filled as the.

Speaker 31 (01:30:01):
Tarmac and emergency workers nearby trying to get stairs up
to those passengers standing on the wing of this plane.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
And that's dangerous.

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By the way, I don't think people realize how high
you are in the air when you're on the wing
of the airplane. Oh, the wing of the airplane. It's crazy,
and let's be real, not everybody's got great balance. So
luckily there seemed to be anybody injured. But yet another
incident on an airport with an airplane. Three two, three, five,

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It's Haden Brother, not much, Chad, what's going on with you?

Speaker 39 (01:31:30):
Uh?

Speaker 32 (01:31:30):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
I figured I'd have you on because I was like,
I gotta get all this stuff about Gavin has kind
of blown op over the last couple of weeks, and
I thought, Okay, you know what, First, is it a gimmick?

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
It is this, that and the other. And you know it's,
of course the little gimmick. He's Gavin.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
But I wanted to I go, I gotta get Jim's
take on it, because you know, I mean you obviously
you're you're there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
You've got a sense of him in a lot of
different ways. Politics is you love politics?

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
I've watched him with Savage, I've watched him with Charlie Kirk,
I have watched him with Steve Bannon.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Man, I tell everybody this, you can't count that dude out.
You can't.

Speaker 38 (01:32:14):
Yeah, and you correct now, you can't. He does have
some political skill. He has good political skills.

Speaker 7 (01:32:20):
I don't know if he has good political instincts.

Speaker 38 (01:32:22):
And I think this is interesting what he's doing with
this and the fact that he's willing to put Republicans
on there, and I think it's it's a couple of
reasons because he you know, his reputation is as a
far left governor.

Speaker 7 (01:32:35):
He wants to he wants them.

Speaker 38 (01:32:37):
He wants people to think of him as a centrist,
as a as a middle of the road guy. I
can work across the aisle. But he has absolutely nothing
in his history it shows that he can. And if
he does present you a subject, well I got this
deal done, it's like, well, yeah, but this and this
happened with it, and it also had this part in
it that you don't talk about that affected this and

(01:32:58):
created this problem later on. Because there's so much stuff
that happens in California with Democratic bills and Democratic policies
that they don't understand the last thing effective. They don't
understand the repercussions of it, because it's like, well, this
could happen. I don't know if that would never happen.
You know, why would people just go out and give
up their homes and go become homeless because you know,

(01:33:18):
because they because they don't because they think it's cheaper
to live on the street or something. The guys, there's
repercussions for things that happen. You don't understand them, and
they don't understand the consequences. And so Gavin wants to
think of himself as middle of the road, and that's
why he's courting all of these Republicans.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
And I think that there's an ulterior motive to it.
I think that he's learning from all that.

Speaker 22 (01:33:37):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Absolutely, Yah, it's a smart guy.

Speaker 7 (01:33:39):
He will learn.

Speaker 38 (01:33:41):
Whether he can stray from his political instincts or not,
I don't know, but I think he was. I think
he saw the Trump phenomena. I don't think he understands
it because I don't think any Republicans understand the Trump phenomenon.

Speaker 7 (01:33:53):
I'm sorry, any Democrats.

Speaker 38 (01:33:54):
And then you get their hands around it, they keep saying,
it's a bunch of white you know, white racist misogynists
wind vote for a black woman, and that's you know, Okay,
maybe two percent of the people is that, But the
majority of the people are not the problem.

Speaker 7 (01:34:06):
That's not why come all a lot come on lost
because she wasn't very good.

Speaker 38 (01:34:09):
And whether you think you lost because of Joe Rogan
effect or something like that, no, because that didn't really
do anything for Trump basically, you know, and they're stuck
in this. They don't understand it. And Gavin wants to
learn from this. He wants to learn what's the Trump phenomenon?
How can he become a populist like Trump while pushing
left wing policies. The problem is Gavin has a skeleton,

(01:34:33):
a closet full of skeletons. You know, the size of
the Spelling mansion in Beverly Hills. He has got so
many skeletons. And there are plenty of right wing writers
out here in California that have put up with him,
that have tracked him, and that have documented him since
the San Francisco mayor days from when he got caught
sleeping with his best friend who was his campaign manager's wife.

(01:34:54):
Just to start with, if you want to start from
there and keep on going, He's got a couple of
house purchases which are very question Well, he's living in
a nine million dollar house, a guy that makes three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year as governor, that
doesn't add up.

Speaker 7 (01:35:06):
Where the money comes from. Nobody really knows.

Speaker 38 (01:35:09):
And there's lots of these different things in his in
his closet of skeletons that are going to keep him out.

Speaker 7 (01:35:14):
So yeah, he's got skills and he's got abilities.

Speaker 38 (01:35:18):
I am not personally think that his political abilities can
go that far, because I don't know how he remakes
himself enough where he plays well in Iowa or Ohio
or Florida or maybe Virginia because you still got all
of the federal workers there, or North Carolina or any
of the swing states. Nevada, Arizona, Arizona hates them because

(01:35:40):
their policies right now with the gasoline stuff is costing
Arizona's more money because they're jacking up the price.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Can well.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Arizona hates him because they feel like frigging their crazy
policies drove people to Arizona too.

Speaker 7 (01:35:53):
Nevada same thing.

Speaker 38 (01:35:54):
You've You've got more Californians living in Nevada probably than
you do Arizona, I think, or they're pretty close to it.
So all, well, yeah, it's I mean, I think it's
very politically astute of him to do this. I think
he's doing to do this like he's learning.

Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
I kind of think of it.

Speaker 38 (01:36:06):
It kind of reminds me of the velociraptors in the
in the in the movies where you basically, you know,
they watch the kids open the door and they learned
how to open a door.

Speaker 7 (01:36:15):
Same thing.

Speaker 38 (01:36:15):
Gavin thinks he's going to learn how to be Trumpian,
how to be a populist like Trump, and that's going
to bail him out, and he's going to remake himself
as this. You know, at first I thought he was
going to be the resistance leader that was gonna do it.
But that didn't play very well. That didn't really get
anybody any strength and any votes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
And I think the fire also put a lot of
that steam out because you needed to go to him
with the fire.

Speaker 38 (01:36:36):
Well, and it's another thing. He's got to live that
down too. I'm sure he's gonna throw Karrent.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Oh, he's already done that. He's done that. I mean,
he hits through them.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
But and and and you know, I was telling people,
I said I could easily make though the argument, as
I like to do, is juxtaposing my own positions and go,
you know, if I'm him, you come out you own
some of the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
He also said, look, let me tell you something. Whether
I did or didn't, if it didn't matter, I was
hamstrung by the fact is that the state legislature is
so far left that you should see the stuff I
stop them from doing. They could have overridden every single
thing I did because they had a super majority over me.

(01:37:15):
And you can easily make that if you're him, and
I think the hope is I'm done. I got a
couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Years where people can put this behind there, you know,
behind them, and hope that things go a little sideways
when it comes to the Trump you know, you and
that maybe JD isn't all that and there's a recession
and all this, you know, because no matter who it is,
for the Democrats, that's also one of the things you
have to hope for is that things go to hell

(01:37:44):
in a handbasket. Otherwise, if things are rocking and rolling,
people just go, well, was put JD in there?

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
We're fine with that. Let's talk about We touched on
it earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
We were just screwing around right before the whole thing
with my mood Khalil and this stuff. I am.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
If you've got the good show it, I want to
believe you're telling me the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
But the more I've seen, and I've seen several interviews today,
there's a movie coming out that he's got a big
part of.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
It's a documentary. I gotta be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
I don't like the fact that you talk a great
game and you've delivered very little in that aspect of
even showing people. And again, it may be a privilege
if that's where you're going with it, I'm fine, but
don't tell me of all this stuff and then deliver
nothing and just say we want the guy out of here.

Speaker 7 (01:38:32):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 38 (01:38:33):
I mean, this is there's so much that we're talking
about earlier. There is so much scrutiny on everything that
Trump White House does. I'm wondering, and I think about this,
between when we were discussing this, I wondered, did they
think that they were just going to skate on this,
that this was gonna be something I was just going
to flow right through and there's gonna be no oversight
of it, and that they just weren't you know that,
Oh well, they must have all this stuff on. It's okay,

(01:38:54):
let's go chase down the budget bill that's coming up,
or let's go more elon protests and that the left
just that this wasn't worth going after or something, because yeah,
they've they got to do this right. They've got so
much scrutiny on them. You got to have your ducks
in a row. You've got to have all the evidence there,
you've got to be able to present it well. You've
got to do this right because again there's so much

(01:39:14):
scrutiny on them. And again the right needs to do
this better than the Democrats do. They need the moral
high ground on this. This is a great opportunity for
everything that's being done. You're doing the moral high ground.
The fact you're cleaning up the government, you're getting rid
of the fraud, the waste, and you're basically getting us
back hopefully on a track. They'll get us to the
point where the debt does not become crushing us in

(01:39:36):
the next five to ten years, because it's going to
At the rate we're going, we cannot continue to spend
two trillion dollars a year more than we've got.

Speaker 7 (01:39:42):
It is unsustainable. There's just no way about it.

Speaker 38 (01:39:46):
And I don't you know, if people don't understand the math,
you've got to figure it out or just trust to
be able.

Speaker 7 (01:39:50):
It's not sustainable. You can't keep doing this.

Speaker 38 (01:39:52):
You couldn't do this on your own personal credit card
every year, and the government camp doing it because it's
got to the point where we're crowding out and it's
spending and investment, and we're also crowding out the ability
for defense. We're not gonna build have any sort of
defense program going forward because we're gonna be talking over
a trillion dollars a year in interest, which matches exactly
what we spend on defense spending almost Yeah, and one

(01:40:13):
of those two is going to have to go and
guess what, You've got to keep paying interest on the debt. So,
I mean, it went up a little bit under Biden
because of the interest rate rise, but for the most part,
we can't afford a trillion dollars a year.

Speaker 7 (01:40:23):
So we've got to fix this either way. We've got
to fix this part of it. But sorry, back to
what we're talking about on that was, Yeah, everything's got
to be done. It's kind of have the ducks in
the world.

Speaker 38 (01:40:30):
You got to show the evidence and basically saying, look,
this is why this is a bad guy. He's done this,
he's done this, he's done this, This is why shouldn't stay.
This isn't the kind of immigrant we want in America.
This is not the kind of person we want to
be on a path the citizenship, because that's basic of
what he's on. He's on a path the citizenship. Doesn't
have to but he could be. And this is not
you know, if you can line this stuff up and
present all the evidence, this is not somebody that we

(01:40:52):
want in America. This is not fit in American value.
This is not the spirit of an American immigrant that's
going to become a citizen.

Speaker 7 (01:40:59):
So you got to do this right. Absolutely got to
get all the data there.

Speaker 38 (01:41:01):
If they screwed up and got the right guy, find
the right guy, or find somebody who's a better case
and dropped this one and let it go away.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
They jumped into it. They buy all accounts, even in
their accounts. They thought he had only a student visa.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
He didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
He's got an American wife who's eight months pregnant, they
said he the organizations they said that he was with
that was spreading all this stuff by handing out flyers, says,
we have no idea who this guy is. I mean,
obviously we know of him, but we don't know him.
He's not a part of this. The interviews they have
and there is plenty, and I think you recognize this too.

(01:41:38):
The internet doesn't forget. There would be crap all over
the place by now of him saying crazy stuff, of
him doing certain things, and I haven't seen any of that.

Speaker 38 (01:41:51):
Yeah, there'd be TikTok videos all over the place of
him going off, because everything that all of those student
leaders were doing was recording stuff and putting it up
for propaganda purposes, because the pro Palestinian stuff gets high
usage on TikTok because it fits the Chinese the way
the Chinese have the algorithm design for creating descent, the
opposite the way it works in China. But here it's

(01:42:12):
something that they would have played up. And there were
millions and millions of those things that were propagated. So
if he's got something, yeah, you would think there'd be
stuff all over TikTok. There'd be stuff all over the socials,
and it doesn't sound like there is. So they've got
to make sure they've got all the right stuff on
this guy, or you don't want to screw this up.
And this is again you've got too much scrutiny on it,
and you know, they're moving.

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
Fast on a lot of this stuff, and screw ups
will happen.

Speaker 38 (01:42:35):
But it's difference between you know, letting people go that
you bring back two weeks so you found out that
they're critical employees, you know that work in energy department
or transportation or whatever, versus you know, basically booting some
guy because this guy, I mean, like everything you know
he's got, He's got an American wife who's eight months pregnant.
This is just stuff the left wing media dreams about.

(01:42:55):
This is just you know, this is gonna this is
going to play so well with Middle America. This is
a great story for them to tell, and they're gonna
get Brownie point for it, and they're gonna the resistance
is gonna love this to Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Kennedy insued, Public Policy Research, Go grab your substack, tell
people how to get it.

Speaker 38 (01:43:10):
It's it's a subsack. It's Kipper Kenny instud to Public
Policy Research. Google it and you can basically took up
my substacks. I wrote one on Gavin, I've written some
on Elon, and we try to put something out at
least three four times a week, like to do every day,
but we don't always hit every day, and it's not
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count machine and we're working on right now because it started.
The Formula one season started about four started last night

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Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Right out, brother, I appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 7 (01:43:46):
Thank you, Chad.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
Love having Jim on. Jim Kennedy right there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
To this, same as we do every single Friday, we
relax a little bit and take a listen to all
the chaos, craziness, and all the other stuff that took
place during this past week.

Speaker 19 (01:45:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
So unless you live in Hawaii or Arizona, you're going
to be failing a little bit.

Speaker 19 (01:45:52):
On Monday morning the funding goes away.

Speaker 18 (01:45:55):
A kid doesn't get physical therapy or occupational therapy.

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Speaker 14 (01:46:07):
I'm not one hundred dollars walking in my hole.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
I know, I'll say it.

Speaker 14 (01:46:12):
Anybody's burning a hold, go do my bucket in and
do my skin. Come on the morning, I'll be it's free.
I'm done my motor running again.

Speaker 21 (01:46:28):
It's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:46:31):
Time.

Speaker 11 (01:46:35):
Under a shutdown, the Trump administration would have full authority
to deem whole agencies non essential.

Speaker 15 (01:46:42):
The reality is that these are on precedent at times,
and I voted against this one because we have to
put some pressure on Elon Musk.

Speaker 16 (01:46:49):
We can't ever allow the government to shut down.

Speaker 14 (01:46:52):
Finding that time free. I'm done my motor running again,
it's fine.

Speaker 17 (01:47:06):
His hair was matted and unkempt. He was very dirty,
and his teeth all appeared to be rotten. Five foot
nine and only sixty eight pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
The center is now looking for a new full time
monster hunter.

Speaker 18 (01:47:18):
It's sleep maxim It's a trend to where young people
maximize the time it takes to do their routine before
going to bed.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
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Speaker 20 (01:47:28):
Congressman, why should men be in women's sports? Short sports?
Why do you think they should not be in short.

Speaker 19 (01:47:34):
And so that's really better for boys?

Speaker 9 (01:47:38):
Fuck today?

Speaker 22 (01:47:51):
The Trump administration took one more step on their authoritary
In March, my husband.

Speaker 23 (01:47:55):
Was kidnapped from our home, and it's shameful that the
unit and it State's government continues to hold him.

Speaker 24 (01:48:03):
You tell us when you applied, Hi, I'm trying to
get into the United States on a student visa. I
am a big supporter of hamas a murderous barbaric group.
If you told us all these things when you applied
for a visa, we would deny your visa.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
I hope we would.

Speaker 12 (01:48:15):
I am here today because I know in my bones
as an American jew how dangerous it is when the
government starts abducting legal residents that they disagree with.

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What a week? What a week?

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Every week seems to be the longest year. It's a
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week of shows. Man, I'll tell you what, Like I
joked about, how you know this is the longest you

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know year? This week, it just seems like every day
there's something new, there's something new, there's something new, there's
something new, and you sit back and you go, who
knows what next week's going to bring? Because compared to
the last four years, this is lightning speed. This is
this is incredible speed of stuff. And the coverage, of

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course has also been all over the place. You guys
have a blessed and crazy fun weekend. We'll do it
again on Monday, as always Night night Jack.

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