November 13, 2024 • 10 mins
Today's big chat - can you consider your dog to be your kid?
TW: Child loss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The ZiT M podcast Network three.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Everybody, Bree, Clint and Claudia Ella is off. She's having
a personal date, which is great. It's a great idea.
I think it's a very good thing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I like to call our show today the BCC.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh yeah, Clint and Claudia Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
By the way, big Clitti Club than a BBC, the
Big Glitti Club.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I like the Big Clitie Club.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I listened to the start of yesterday's after party.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
By the way, start was.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The worst bet. What was the start started? Ship?
Speaker 6 (00:42):
We were like, wouldn't we do what you said was
podcast is going to be a bit late because the
person that uploads it isn't here because they're And then
you just started insulting me and you were like there
at a musical by themselves and Breeze like, well, obviously
it's not me because I've had six before.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And then I feel always braggnant about the six that
she's ever.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Now, I've had six at least three times in my life.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Hard feelings because.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Once with myself.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Only once a gay twice a week. Yeah, well you're
back now and ELA's not here, so coincidence, I think.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, and we are very lucky to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Rumors are you two can't be in the same room
together at the moment.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, and there is an issue of a restraining order.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But no, I meant like work tension that you guys have.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, we've fallen out.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, you've got your beefing, We got beef.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, because what was it over?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Reckon?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Do you pick on her? I heard it was about
you felt like she wasn't respecting your authority. You thought
she was overstepping the mark.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Because I'm the boss and I need respect in.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
This Roomerving actually sounds serious.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
When I opened my mouth, people need to listen, okay,
and she was not listening.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't talk because I like the sound of my
own voice. That's what my mum used to say.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Didn't carry over to me.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I was like, Mum, I do talk because I do
like the sound.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Of Clint's Like, well, that makes one of us.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One of us. Mother. Yeah. Anyway, we're here, Okay, we
are here and Ella will be back.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We're here.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We're queer. Get used to it. I speaking of. There's
this content creator that I really like. You know, I'm
Louis who does the tiktoks about his family, Louis Davis.
Louis Davis, and he made a video where he talked
about He talked about the fact that it's his belief
that you should use all of your sick days. You
(02:56):
should always use all of your sick days because you're
not going to get him back.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
True.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Isn't it that he doesn't have a job.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yep? Yeah, when he did have a job, he did
have a job.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He hasn't had a job for a while.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
He said he never used them. Yeah, and now I'm
going back. Why didn't I do that? Why don't I
use my sick days? I also saw another TikTok video
that said, never waste your sick days being sick. You know,
it's a great point. Be sick at work, get paid
to be sick, and then use sick days for fun.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Can I make a confession? Yeah, something that I forgot
about and never told you guys?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Have you done that before? Have you earlier?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
This year? I called him sick on Believe a Friday. Yeah,
and I went to a festival mark.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, I'm all for it.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
And I didn't tell you guys. And Alla called me
because she had a work.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Question, and I was like, in the middle.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Of a festival, and I know that the background was like.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Do you remember explore or she was like, hey, how
are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You're okay?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
And I'm trying to like muffle the thing to be
like in the.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Back it's a heart rate monitor.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Actually remember that.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I forgot about that until a week or two ago,
and then I was like, oh my god, I actually
did that.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So yeah, I don't think so if you don't do
it all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You don't become unreliable out It's yeah, it's a difference
of yeah, becoming unreliable to don't.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Mind laying to the company.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
But I'd like to you you could have told us.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I could have.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
We would have kept the secret because it all like
swings and roundabouts, it all comes back.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I was so terrified. I was like that, I think that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Might be my favorite story you've ever told.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I thought you're going to say that funeral you were
at last time.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Unfortunately, was real, Yeah, that'd be a bit rough. It
was in the morning though.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I really need the but I was like, no, you
take it. You take because those sit outside your sick
days and your holidaydays. Those are bereavement days. If you
get not a lot I think it's two. I think
it might be two.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And then there's alternative leave, and you're allowed to use
your bereavement leave for whatever you want, if it's used
for a care of a dog.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, which so you should in my opinion, like if
you Clinton doesn't think so.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But I know I didn't say that the look.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
On your face.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Do you think someone should take some days off if
they lose a cat or a dog?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I do.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Why have you changed it all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I do believe that You've never said that before to me.
You've always been like, you've never asked.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I feel like I've asked.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So you and I have argued about this over the
years for the last like six seven years.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
We've all ways.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Didn't see you should get maternity leave when your dog
has puppies, But I think.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You should that conversation, you should.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Get to use your bereavement leave for a dog. I do.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You and I have always argued about this, but I'm
glad you finally come around to.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The good trying to agree with you. You're trying to argue
with me.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh, I'm just saying I'm finally glad you've come around.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
About fucking Claudia. She took a day off and said
she was sick to go to festival.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I also could have been sick at the festival.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I just think if you've had an animal in your life,
like for let's say, fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But have you disagreed with me in the past?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Um, you have, haven't.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't think on this detail specifically, No, I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Maybe I feel like you have.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But then you know, maybe it was the thing we've
argued on where I used to say that I think
it's fine when people call their dogs their kids if
they aren't going to have kids.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I know, I'm fine with you calling your dog a kid.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Ta what the hell is happening? Ever, since he's got
a dog, his tune has changed, and I'm glad. I'm
glad about it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Then?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
You were not?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I swear that was it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't agree with people giving animals the same status
as children in their life, Like it's not the same.
It's not the same, but that's different.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
For some people it is the same, And I think
maybe this is maybe that's I believe for some people,
especially the ones that aren't able to have kids for
whatever eason.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Totally, and I'm not trying to diminish that, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It's the same, that's what. But that's what I think.
Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
It will be something in there.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Or something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Anyway, I feel like you're all your thoughts and feelings
are about to change because you've now got a dog.
And I always felt like you weren't completely what's the
word equipped to comment because you never owned a dog.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, but you wait, you're gonna love that dog
just as much as you love your kids.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But but but I'm not trying to not trying to
continue the argument on but by the same argument, you're
not equipped because you don't have children.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, so, but I know how much I love my dog,
and if my dog good be by child and if.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I've had animals, though I've had animals and I have children. Yeah,
and it's it's just fundamentally different.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But I still won't agree with you that for some
people that is their kids, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I agree on that, Yeah, I agree on that. Yeah, yeah,
And for a lot of people, by choice or by necessity.
It is because you've got because you've got to share
your love with something and someone. Yeah that that animals
will fill that space. Now I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, oh see what happens when you get a dog?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But why are we going down the dark route? But
the death of a child can destroy a person permanently.
A death of an animal cannot do that.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I think it almost always will destroy a person.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's the difference is you will you will ultimately absolutely
get over the death of a dog.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't think so, not for some people.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, Okay, well I've never had a dog. I've only
put my cats down. Thanks for bringing it up. Should
we go home, I'm going to see my cats, dogs,
and children and wife.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
In that order. That's how he rates them. Now, that's
the hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Thanks for joining us, guys, book TikTok and live weekdays
for three on Sedim
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Sitim
The ZiT M podcast Network three.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Everybody, Bree, Clint and Claudia Ella is off. She's having
a personal date, which is great. It's a great idea.
I think it's a very good thing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I like to call our show today the BCC.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh yeah, Clint and Claudia Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
By the way, big Clitti Club than a BBC, the
Big Glitti Club.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I like the Big Clitie Club.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I listened to the start of yesterday's after party.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
By the way, start was.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The worst bet. What was the start started? Ship?
Speaker 6 (00:42):
We were like, wouldn't we do what you said was
podcast is going to be a bit late because the
person that uploads it isn't here because they're And then
you just started insulting me and you were like there
at a musical by themselves and Breeze like, well, obviously
it's not me because I've had six before.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And then I feel always braggnant about the six that
she's ever.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Now, I've had six at least three times in my life.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Hard feelings because.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Once with myself.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Only once a gay twice a week. Yeah, well you're
back now and ELA's not here, so coincidence, I think.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, and we are very lucky to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Rumors are you two can't be in the same room
together at the moment.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, and there is an issue of a restraining order.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But no, I meant like work tension that you guys have.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, we've fallen out.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, you've got your beefing, We got beef.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, because what was it over?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Reckon?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Do you pick on her? I heard it was about
you felt like she wasn't respecting your authority. You thought
she was overstepping the mark.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Because I'm the boss and I need respect in.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
This Roomerving actually sounds serious.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
When I opened my mouth, people need to listen, okay,
and she was not listening.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't talk because I like the sound of my
own voice. That's what my mum used to say.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Didn't carry over to me.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I was like, Mum, I do talk because I do
like the sound.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Of Clint's Like, well, that makes one of us.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One of us. Mother. Yeah. Anyway, we're here, Okay, we
are here and Ella will be back.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We're here.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We're queer. Get used to it. I speaking of. There's
this content creator that I really like. You know, I'm
Louis who does the tiktoks about his family, Louis Davis.
Louis Davis, and he made a video where he talked
about He talked about the fact that it's his belief
that you should use all of your sick days. You
(02:56):
should always use all of your sick days because you're
not going to get him back.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
True.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Isn't it that he doesn't have a job.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yep? Yeah, when he did have a job, he did
have a job.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He hasn't had a job for a while.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
He said he never used them. Yeah, and now I'm
going back. Why didn't I do that? Why don't I
use my sick days? I also saw another TikTok video
that said, never waste your sick days being sick. You know,
it's a great point. Be sick at work, get paid
to be sick, and then use sick days for fun.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Can I make a confession? Yeah, something that I forgot
about and never told you guys?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Have you done that before? Have you earlier?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
This year? I called him sick on Believe a Friday. Yeah,
and I went to a festival mark.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, I'm all for it.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
And I didn't tell you guys. And Alla called me
because she had a work.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Question, and I was like, in the middle.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Of a festival, and I know that the background was like.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Do you remember explore or she was like, hey, how
are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You're okay?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
And I'm trying to like muffle the thing to be
like in the.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Back it's a heart rate monitor.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Actually remember that.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I forgot about that until a week or two ago,
and then I was like, oh my god, I actually
did that.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So yeah, I don't think so if you don't do
it all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You don't become unreliable out It's yeah, it's a difference
of yeah, becoming unreliable to don't.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Mind laying to the company.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
But I'd like to you you could have told us.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I could have.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
We would have kept the secret because it all like
swings and roundabouts, it all comes back.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I was so terrified. I was like that, I think that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Might be my favorite story you've ever told.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I thought you're going to say that funeral you were
at last time.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Unfortunately, was real, Yeah, that'd be a bit rough. It
was in the morning though.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I really need the but I was like, no, you
take it. You take because those sit outside your sick
days and your holidaydays. Those are bereavement days. If you
get not a lot I think it's two. I think
it might be two.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And then there's alternative leave, and you're allowed to use
your bereavement leave for whatever you want, if it's used
for a care of a dog.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, which so you should in my opinion, like if
you Clinton doesn't think so.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But I know I didn't say that the look.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
On your face.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Do you think someone should take some days off if
they lose a cat or a dog?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I do.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Why have you changed it all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I do believe that You've never said that before to me.
You've always been like, you've never asked.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I feel like I've asked.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So you and I have argued about this over the
years for the last like six seven years.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
We've all ways.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Didn't see you should get maternity leave when your dog
has puppies, But I think.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You should that conversation, you should.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Get to use your bereavement leave for a dog. I do.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You and I have always argued about this, but I'm
glad you finally come around to.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The good trying to agree with you. You're trying to argue
with me.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh, I'm just saying I'm finally glad you've come around.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
About fucking Claudia. She took a day off and said
she was sick to go to festival.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I also could have been sick at the festival.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I just think if you've had an animal in your life,
like for let's say, fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But have you disagreed with me in the past?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Um, you have, haven't.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't think on this detail specifically, No, I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Maybe I feel like you have.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But then you know, maybe it was the thing we've
argued on where I used to say that I think
it's fine when people call their dogs their kids if
they aren't going to have kids.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I know, I'm fine with you calling your dog a kid.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Ta what the hell is happening? Ever, since he's got
a dog, his tune has changed, and I'm glad. I'm
glad about it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Then?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
You were not?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I swear that was it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't agree with people giving animals the same status
as children in their life, Like it's not the same.
It's not the same, but that's different.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
For some people it is the same, And I think
maybe this is maybe that's I believe for some people,
especially the ones that aren't able to have kids for
whatever eason.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Totally, and I'm not trying to diminish that, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It's the same, that's what. But that's what I think.
Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
It will be something in there.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Or something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Anyway, I feel like you're all your thoughts and feelings
are about to change because you've now got a dog.
And I always felt like you weren't completely what's the
word equipped to comment because you never owned a dog.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, but you wait, you're gonna love that dog
just as much as you love your kids.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But but but I'm not trying to not trying to
continue the argument on but by the same argument, you're
not equipped because you don't have children.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, so, but I know how much I love my dog,
and if my dog good be by child and if.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I've had animals, though I've had animals and I have children. Yeah,
and it's it's just fundamentally different.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But I still won't agree with you that for some
people that is their kids, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I agree on that, Yeah, I agree on that. Yeah, yeah,
And for a lot of people, by choice or by necessity.
It is because you've got because you've got to share
your love with something and someone. Yeah that that animals
will fill that space. Now I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, oh see what happens when you get a dog?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But why are we going down the dark route? But
the death of a child can destroy a person permanently.
A death of an animal cannot do that.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I think it almost always will destroy a person.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's the difference is you will you will ultimately absolutely
get over the death of a dog.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't think so, not for some people.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, Okay, well I've never had a dog. I've only
put my cats down. Thanks for bringing it up. Should
we go home, I'm going to see my cats, dogs,
and children and wife.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
In that order. That's how he rates them. Now, that's
the hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Thanks for joining us, guys, book TikTok and live weekdays
for three on Sedim
Speaker 3 (10:05):
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