December 18, 2025 • 10 mins
Here's a name that you might not have thought of since lockdown in 2020, Joe Exotic, the Tiger King. We tried out luck to get him on the phone and we're 99% sure it's really him!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is this is this Joe Exotic Tiger King Man, You've
been harder to find than Carol Beskin's husband.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Fuck man, yeah, fuck man.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Bitch. Hey, Mary Christmas, all the way from New Zealand.
It's good to talk to you, Tiger king.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, it's good to talk to you, and I appreciate
the support. Don't tell everybody over there, I send my
love and respect because I have a lot of fans
from the United Kingdom. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So we're not in the United Kingdom. We're in New Zealand,
and I just wanted to know, do.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know your shill across the pond?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You know we're underneath We're underneath Australia.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, we're near Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, yeah, have you have.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You ever been to Australia before, Joe ship Man.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I've never been out of the United States, haven't you?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Do you have plans once you get out of Gile
to go traveling?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, here's my plans. Okay, I want to I'm gonna
get out and then I got to go to Mexico
and get George, and then I want to go to
South Africa and get really involved in a baby elephant orphanage, right,
and then I want to and then I want to
go to Borneo and get involved in an Ringutang orphanage.
(01:27):
And then I have the I have this this. I've
always done charity work for sick little kids, you know.
So my goal is to travel the Third world countries
and and pay to fix five thousand little kids's cliff palates.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You want to fix cliff pellets?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, little kids that have born with cleft palates get
bullied their whole life.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Whereabouts do you want to do that?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, I want to. I want to do it in
different countries, you know, like South Africa and Guyana and
all of the all of the third world countries. And
I want to work with Operations Smile and that the
Mercy Ship. Yeah you know, yep, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Okay, So so I'll just hit you with some cold,
hard facts. You're currently serving a twenty one year sentence.
To do that, you'd have to get some serious help,
and you are leaning on the likes of President Trump
for that help.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Is that true? Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Okay, here's the deal. I just hired President Trump's lawyer,
Peter Tickton that that was his drill sergeant in the
military academy. So they've been friends a long time. Okay,
if President Trump doesn't help me, I only have four
more years.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Of life.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
No of prison.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh right, I was going to say out until he's
eligible for.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, in federal prison, you don't get parole, right, you
just you just serve as certain percent of your time. Okay.
You know I've been programming and then you know I
give good time and all that stuff. So I've knocked
seven years off of my sentence already.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Wow, we're talking for good behavior, Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, we're talking to Joe Exotic Tiger King at the
moment life from Which penitentiary are you in?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Whereabouts are you?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I'm in a federal medical center in Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
In Fort Worth, Texas? Are you allowed to have a
phone in there? Because that's what we found interesting. We
saw you post on Instagram and it said, hey, I'm
up for some interviews if you guys are keen and
I found interesting that you were able to post this
stuff and take calls. Are you allowed to have a
phone in there?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You can have you have tablets. Everything's about money in here, Okay, Okay,
they charge you for they told you fifty cents a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Whoa Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I need to ask you, Joe, when Tiger King came
out in twenty twenty, because you were in prison back then.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Were you able to watch the show when it was
playing out?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Believe it or not, I didn't see it for the
first time until last.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Week last Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
How do you feel you came across?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, what'd you think of it?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I was pissed? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
What do you think? They got quite a few different
parts of you wrong? What didn't you like?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well? You know, you know I didn't film for Tiger King. No, okay,
I was in jail two years before Tiger King was filmed.
Took they took all that footage off my YouTube channel
that I was filming for a reality show. Okay. And
what upsets me though, guys, is it done nothing to
(04:55):
help tigers. That whole show done nothing to help tigers. Uh,
because they filmed people like saff the girl that lost
her arms. They they interviewed her in a junk yard, okay,
instead of they should have set her in front of
that tiger cat and let her explain that it wasn't
(05:18):
that tiger's fault. And she went to bat against the government,
said make sure that we didn't have to put that
tiger down because she took the blame for it, okay,
And she could have talked about tigers in captivity. She
could have talked about tigers in the wild, you know.
And then they interviewed the hit man in the bathtub.
(05:38):
Who does that? You know? And and and then they
interviewed John the whole show with no shirt on. You know,
they had an agenda, and then they made and then
they made me out to be the methan. I'm like,
I'm the only motherfucker in the whole show with the
full set of teeth wearing clothes. What's something? What's going
(06:00):
on here? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
He Hey, Joe, considering obviously, that's wild to me that
you've literally just seen it last week. When you get
out in four years, do you have any plans to
make your own reality show or make your own documentary?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I am, I have. I have six terabites of never
seen footage from that zoo. Really, I'm and I'm going
to show the real truth of what went on at
that zoo, and I'm going to explain what happened, how
this all went down. Because you know they didn't. They
(06:36):
didn't explain anything about how my mom and dad got
screwed out of all this. You know they didn't. They
didn't explain that that Jeff conned his way on to
the deed of the land, so you know Preternity was
a millionaire and then find out that he was broke
after his name on the land. You know, they didn't.
It wasn't a documentary, it was a hit piece.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're talking to Joe Exotic Tiger King, live from an
American jail and Fort Worth, Texas at the moment, and
we know your time is precious. We know we're running
out of time. I want to get some messages and
some thoughts from you. If if this podcast reached someone
like Carol Baskin, what's your message for her? Right now?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You know, Carol, Carol, Carol's Carol. I don't you know.
People have my argument with Carol way out of proportion
because Carol, Carol, Me and Carol just made money off
of each other. Okay, Carol had her followers and she
(07:40):
had him brainwashed that I was abusing baby tigers because
I'd take them away from their mom and I would
let you peddle. Okay, Yeah, well, I made my money
with my followers on Joe Exotic tv dot com, convincing
people she was that shit crazy and she killed her husband. Okay,
because because who was an adult woman goes around with
(08:02):
flowers on your head all the time. Okay, it was simple. Okay.
I had never seen or talked to Carol Baskin until
my trial. I never saw her in life in real
life until my trial.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So what you're saying to us, Joe, is that whole
thing with you and Carol was publicity for both of
you to make money off of each other.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and that's how it was. And Jeff
Lowe used that to use this whole murder for higher
plot in order to get my zoo, and it worked
for him, It absolutely worked for him. But Carol to
this day, Okay, again, none of this was about tigers,
(08:47):
because Carol gave all of her tigers away to Turpentine
Creek in Arkansas. They're taking care of her tigers. She
sold her property there where she had her zoo from
nineteen and a half million dollars. So Carol got what
Kirol wanted, and that was to be rich and not
have to take care of tigers.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, you know what, I didn't know that. I didn't
know that she'd sell the sold the zoo and made
that much money.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Joe. Before she sold, she sold the property for a
housing development.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, wow, Joe, before you go, are you okay? Are
you doing all right?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
How are you doing doing right in jail?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah? I mean I'm here, you know right now, I've
got a cold, so I feel like crap. But you know,
I've got lung cancer and prophet cancer and I'm dealing
with that and you know, uh, I'm old in my
own you know. Would help if Trump would prip and
let me out of here so I could go get
rule doctors. That would be amazing. But i'm you know,
(09:47):
for prison. I'm doing okay.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, okay, Well that's nice to hear. And do you
have a message for Kiwi's listening down here in New Zealand.
It's almost Christmas? What's your message to New Zealand is
listening to this interview at the moment?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know, uh, maybe Christmas to all of y'all. I
send my love and respect to everybody over in New Zealand.
You have some of the world's most fascinating wild animals,
and I am coming down there and they're helping you
one day with conservation to make sure that they say
they stay alive.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And well, you're a fascinating person, Joe, and we appreciate
your time. Merry Christmas all the way from New Zealand
and from the Brian clint Show.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Merry Christmas, Joe, Very Christmas.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I love y'all. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's Joe Exotic the Tiger King live from Fort Worth.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Tickets.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
He's got another call to take fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Play zidiums Brian clint On, Insi, Facebook, TikTok and live
weekdays from three on ZDIM
Is this is this Joe Exotic Tiger King Man, You've
been harder to find than Carol Beskin's husband.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Fuck man, yeah, fuck man.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Bitch. Hey, Mary Christmas, all the way from New Zealand.
It's good to talk to you, Tiger king.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, it's good to talk to you, and I appreciate
the support. Don't tell everybody over there, I send my
love and respect because I have a lot of fans
from the United Kingdom. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So we're not in the United Kingdom. We're in New Zealand,
and I just wanted to know, do.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know your shill across the pond?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You know we're underneath We're underneath Australia.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, we're near Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, yeah, have you have.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You ever been to Australia before, Joe ship Man.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I've never been out of the United States, haven't you?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Do you have plans once you get out of Gile
to go traveling?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, here's my plans. Okay, I want to I'm gonna
get out and then I got to go to Mexico
and get George, and then I want to go to
South Africa and get really involved in a baby elephant orphanage, right,
and then I want to and then I want to
go to Borneo and get involved in an Ringutang orphanage.
(01:27):
And then I have the I have this this. I've
always done charity work for sick little kids, you know.
So my goal is to travel the Third world countries
and and pay to fix five thousand little kids's cliff palates.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You want to fix cliff pellets?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, little kids that have born with cleft palates get
bullied their whole life.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Whereabouts do you want to do that?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, I want to. I want to do it in
different countries, you know, like South Africa and Guyana and
all of the all of the third world countries. And
I want to work with Operations Smile and that the
Mercy Ship. Yeah you know, yep, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Okay, So so I'll just hit you with some cold,
hard facts. You're currently serving a twenty one year sentence.
To do that, you'd have to get some serious help,
and you are leaning on the likes of President Trump
for that help.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Is that true? Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Okay, here's the deal. I just hired President Trump's lawyer,
Peter Tickton that that was his drill sergeant in the
military academy. So they've been friends a long time. Okay,
if President Trump doesn't help me, I only have four
more years.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Of life.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
No of prison.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh right, I was going to say out until he's
eligible for.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, in federal prison, you don't get parole, right, you
just you just serve as certain percent of your time. Okay.
You know I've been programming and then you know I
give good time and all that stuff. So I've knocked
seven years off of my sentence already.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Wow, we're talking for good behavior, Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, we're talking to Joe Exotic Tiger King at the
moment life from Which penitentiary are you in?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Whereabouts are you?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I'm in a federal medical center in Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
In Fort Worth, Texas? Are you allowed to have a
phone in there? Because that's what we found interesting. We
saw you post on Instagram and it said, hey, I'm
up for some interviews if you guys are keen and
I found interesting that you were able to post this
stuff and take calls. Are you allowed to have a
phone in there?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You can have you have tablets. Everything's about money in here, Okay, Okay,
they charge you for they told you fifty cents a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Whoa Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I need to ask you, Joe, when Tiger King came
out in twenty twenty, because you were in prison back then.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Were you able to watch the show when it was
playing out?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Believe it or not, I didn't see it for the
first time until last.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Week last Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
How do you feel you came across?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, what'd you think of it?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I was pissed? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
What do you think? They got quite a few different
parts of you wrong? What didn't you like?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well? You know, you know I didn't film for Tiger King. No, okay,
I was in jail two years before Tiger King was filmed.
Took they took all that footage off my YouTube channel
that I was filming for a reality show. Okay. And
what upsets me though, guys, is it done nothing to
(04:55):
help tigers. That whole show done nothing to help tigers. Uh,
because they filmed people like saff the girl that lost
her arms. They they interviewed her in a junk yard, okay,
instead of they should have set her in front of
that tiger cat and let her explain that it wasn't
(05:18):
that tiger's fault. And she went to bat against the government,
said make sure that we didn't have to put that
tiger down because she took the blame for it, okay,
And she could have talked about tigers in captivity. She
could have talked about tigers in the wild, you know.
And then they interviewed the hit man in the bathtub.
(05:38):
Who does that? You know? And and and then they
interviewed John the whole show with no shirt on. You know,
they had an agenda, and then they made and then
they made me out to be the methan. I'm like,
I'm the only motherfucker in the whole show with the
full set of teeth wearing clothes. What's something? What's going
(06:00):
on here? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
He Hey, Joe, considering obviously, that's wild to me that
you've literally just seen it last week. When you get
out in four years, do you have any plans to
make your own reality show or make your own documentary?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I am, I have. I have six terabites of never
seen footage from that zoo. Really, I'm and I'm going
to show the real truth of what went on at
that zoo, and I'm going to explain what happened, how
this all went down. Because you know they didn't. They
(06:36):
didn't explain anything about how my mom and dad got
screwed out of all this. You know they didn't. They
didn't explain that that Jeff conned his way on to
the deed of the land, so you know Preternity was
a millionaire and then find out that he was broke
after his name on the land. You know, they didn't.
It wasn't a documentary, it was a hit piece.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're talking to Joe Exotic Tiger King, live from an
American jail and Fort Worth, Texas at the moment, and
we know your time is precious. We know we're running
out of time. I want to get some messages and
some thoughts from you. If if this podcast reached someone
like Carol Baskin, what's your message for her? Right now?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You know, Carol, Carol, Carol's Carol. I don't you know.
People have my argument with Carol way out of proportion
because Carol, Carol, Me and Carol just made money off
of each other. Okay, Carol had her followers and she
(07:40):
had him brainwashed that I was abusing baby tigers because
I'd take them away from their mom and I would
let you peddle. Okay, Yeah, well, I made my money
with my followers on Joe Exotic tv dot com, convincing
people she was that shit crazy and she killed her husband. Okay,
because because who was an adult woman goes around with
(08:02):
flowers on your head all the time. Okay, it was simple. Okay.
I had never seen or talked to Carol Baskin until
my trial. I never saw her in life in real
life until my trial.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So what you're saying to us, Joe, is that whole
thing with you and Carol was publicity for both of
you to make money off of each other.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and that's how it was. And Jeff
Lowe used that to use this whole murder for higher
plot in order to get my zoo, and it worked
for him, It absolutely worked for him. But Carol to
this day, Okay, again, none of this was about tigers,
(08:47):
because Carol gave all of her tigers away to Turpentine
Creek in Arkansas. They're taking care of her tigers. She
sold her property there where she had her zoo from
nineteen and a half million dollars. So Carol got what
Kirol wanted, and that was to be rich and not
have to take care of tigers.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, you know what, I didn't know that. I didn't
know that she'd sell the sold the zoo and made
that much money.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Joe. Before she sold, she sold the property for a
housing development.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, wow, Joe, before you go, are you okay? Are
you doing all right?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
How are you doing doing right in jail?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah? I mean I'm here, you know right now, I've
got a cold, so I feel like crap. But you know,
I've got lung cancer and prophet cancer and I'm dealing
with that and you know, uh, I'm old in my
own you know. Would help if Trump would prip and
let me out of here so I could go get
rule doctors. That would be amazing. But i'm you know,
(09:47):
for prison. I'm doing okay.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, okay, Well that's nice to hear. And do you
have a message for Kiwi's listening down here in New Zealand.
It's almost Christmas? What's your message to New Zealand is
listening to this interview at the moment?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know, uh, maybe Christmas to all of y'all. I
send my love and respect to everybody over in New Zealand.
You have some of the world's most fascinating wild animals,
and I am coming down there and they're helping you
one day with conservation to make sure that they say
they stay alive.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And well, you're a fascinating person, Joe, and we appreciate
your time. Merry Christmas all the way from New Zealand
and from the Brian clint Show.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Merry Christmas, Joe, Very Christmas.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I love y'all. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's Joe Exotic the Tiger King live from Fort Worth.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Tickets.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
He's got another call to take fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Play zidiums Brian clint On, Insi, Facebook, TikTok and live
weekdays from three on ZDIM
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