Thursday December 7 - Full Show - The Dana Show with Dana Loesch

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So that's slippery slope. What rightsare going to be taken away next?
And what do not have as aparent. You do not have the right
to abuse your kids. This isputting off their unava. This is mutilating
these miners. These are irreversible procedures. And this is something that other countries
in Europe, like Sweden, oncethey started doing it, they saw it

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did incalculable damage. They've shut itdown. I signed legislation in Florida banning
the mutilation of miners because it iswrong. We cannot allow this to happen
in this country. And I knowChris disagrees with me, and I think
he has an honest position. Nickydisagrees with me. She opposes the bill
that we did to ban that.She said, laws and get involved with

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it. You said the law shouldn'tget involved with it. She also,
though, I think, and thisis flows from what she did as governor
of South Carolina. You know,they had a bill to try to say
that men shouldn't go into girls' bathrooms, and she killed that bill. And
she bragged that she killed that billeven to this day. She bragged that
I don't think men should be goinginto little girl's bathroom. I think it's
wrong, but I think we haveevery right to protect them from that.

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That was a huge win. Ithought last night. That was a major
tig last night in the debate,and it was a very interesting debate,
and I'm kind of tired of themat this point. I put a piece
out where I said that I thinkthat we finally have the winnowing with everything
down to just two people. Sowelcome to the radio program. You can

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listen across the country, and youcan stream the radio program as well.
Make sure you sign up for thenewsletter, Chapter and Verse. Lots of
good stuff up there. I hada little recap of the debate last night
that you can go and check out. I want to recap some of it
today. We're gonna have like thebest and worst moments. But I thought
the policy stuff was very interesting becausethere were some very I think you could

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you could really contrast some of thisstuff when you got around Chris Christie's e
or type Trump vendetta, which isreally what it was. He barely I
want to make a quick point,he and Vivek Ramaswami barely made barely qualified
for the debate. In fact,I think it was Vivec that was struggling

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to get that polling qualification to evenget on stage at the debate, and
so that was kind of that wasa major that was a problem for them,
and that's why I feel like they'rereally going to struggle even considering making
the next one, which whenever thatwould be, I think we're tired of
it at this point. So aquick just a quick recap, and then

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I'm going to do a deep dive. I thought that was one of the
big I thought that was a verybig point in the debate last night because
she had been on I mean,she previously was not supportive of it,
the whole any kind of the bathroombills. I mean, she's on tape,
and we're going to dive into that. I'm not going to do it

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just the second, but I'm goingto dive into a deeper here coming up.
I mean, she's on and we'vegot that audio. She's you know,
she's on tape actually slamming it andsaying that, you know, she
doesn't think that it's something that isworth pursuing. She's always she's been on
the wrong side of the culture warfrom the get go, So that I
think was a huge moment against her. I also think the criticisms of her,

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particularly with some of the Chinese acquisitionsin her state, that was a
big criticism against her as well.And additionally, she seemed overwhelmed. She
seemed I mean, I get,I mean, and obviously I am honest
with you guys. Whereas other peoplewho do commentary on television or not,

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they pretend that they don't have apreference in the primary, but they're lying
to you. They do. Theyjust think that you're too stupid and they're
too far too clever by half foryou to figure it out. I just
tell you as it is. Imean, you know, primaries. We
have primaries for a reason, right, I mean, we had people in
my family and I'm sure in yourfamily who who fought and bled to protect

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our rights. And so I completelycelebrate the fact that we have primaries in
an election process in this republic,and I'm not going to stop celebrating the
absolute, pure, unadult rated americannessof it. So that being said,
she just seemed tired. She seemeda little overwhelmed by the onslaught, which
she should have I think been alittle bit better prepared for. She just

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seemed tense and she seemed overwhelmed.But that's also part of her problem that
she brought up on herself because inprevious debates she made a lot of accusations
that she couldn't really back up,and you know, here now you have
the truth of the matter, andso that was an issue for her.
I thought, vivig Ramaswami, Ithink what this debate proved. I get

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it that he has a group ofaccutane rage fans that like to call women
see you next tuesdays on social media. Believe me, I've had my fair
share of it. I've gone throughthis before, from the establishment and from
the left. So people who thinkthat history began the day that they were
born, I really doesn't affect meone way or the other. I didn't
have a problem with him in thisprimary until he started incredibly disingenuous, and

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then that's when. And I've writtentwo pieces that are very in depth with
tons of receipts about this that youcan access over at chapter and verse my
substack. But the I think thathis contention in the race last night is
done. If he was ever aserious contender, he was not. After
last night, he came off likesome kind of clownish Michael Anthony Hall in

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sixteen Candles. He has unintentionally masteredthe art of making the people that he
criticizes seem sympathetic, which is kindof wild. Particularly when he criticizes he
goes after Nicki Hayley, and they'rejustifiable criticisms. But this is where I
feel like he's not knowledgeable enough toactually be effective in the execution of this,
because if he was incredibly knowledgeable,not just about the issues but also

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about her record, he would begoing after her more for foreign policy and
in ways that would completely new toher. On the stage, he stays
thirty thousand feet from everything. Simplywriting on a piece of paper that she's
corrupt and holding it up for thecameras doesn't do the trick. It doesn't
do the tri Maybe he could waxnostalgic about her nostalgia for failed foreign policy.

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Maybe he could he could ask questionher about her knowledge of NATO,
because she seems to think that Russiais going to be on NATO's doorstep.
But she said on this radio show, we've had this conversation. I mean,
you have Latvia, Estonia and othercountries that are literally former Eastern Bloc
nations that are NATO members now,and so theoretically, well, actually geographically

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they're on the border of Russia,they're on their doorstep. So there's a
number of things that he could do. But I don't think that he's ever.
He thinks he's too smart to beprepared, and so he always it's
shallow. It's miles wide, inchesdeep. If he really wanted to cut
her, I think that he woulddo it so much better, which then
feeds into this conspiracy theory that Ihave. It's like he's told to ding
her, but not too serious,and it feels like he was mad at

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her because she's rising in Trump's esteemwhereas he's not, and I feel like
they're both competing for Daddy's attention.That's what it seems like to me.
You want my pure, unadulterated takefrom this, this is it. It
just seems you know, it justseemed weird to me. Uh. He
kept repeating that, you know,she's corrupt, and he was doing this
in front of an audience that shouldhave made for an easy win with a

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with a slogan like that, buthe never took the opportunity to truly rhetorically
bury her with her positions on cronycapitalism. Uh, crony capitalism, the
Chinese acquisitions, uh, the sharedbathroom to the trans bathroom stuff. He
never went after her. He neverreally went after her. He did like
stupid he you know, pettiness isnot a substitute for wit. It's cheap.

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It's like shock. And he neverwent beyond that. And that's what
makes me question, like, ishe really in this too? If he
really thought she was the threat,then why wouldn't he There were so many
things. I was watching this debateand I'm like, Oh, is he
going to go here? No hedidn't. Is he going to go there?
No he didn't. Is he gonnago here? No he didn't.
So that made me kind of questioneven his genuineness in going after her at

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all. It just seems either hewas either he knew his limitations on knowledge
or he was told to just hither but not too hard. There's a
strategy and a psychology there that hefeeds into it because he's not the best
debater. He's too manufactured, andhe is afraid to let loose, and

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he has these verbal rhetorical ticks thathe does that buys himself more time,
and people who speak regularly can spotit a mile away. So that's I'm
just I don't get it. Iget it that he's got a lot of
fans. I think it's fine tolike him as a presidential candidate. Over
adacted, No, I mean he'sanother thing with Nikki Hayley. This is

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the thing that stuck out to me. Why didn't she go after him?
He has literal active Chinese investments rightnow. He says he stepped down a
CEO from Royvent, but he literallytakes a check from it. They have
business in with the CCP. Howare you, Nikki Hayley? And this

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is documented. This is not somethingthat's made up. This is stuff these
guys got to declare. How doesshe not go after him for this stuff?
How are you up there and he'sattacking you on Chinese acquisitions and you're
not responding with yeah, but youtake a chance. How is that not
your first response? I don't thinkthat she's well prepared for this because there

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were many times where she's like shekept going after for instance, the fracking
thing in Florida. Right, peoplein Florida didn't want fracking in their swamps.
You can dislike it as much asyou want to, but unless you
live there and you get to voteon this stuff, you your opinion really
doesn't matter. They voted on it. It doesn't matter who the hell's in
the governor's mansion. They had enoughenergy for it in the Florida legislature that

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even if he were to veto it, they would have overridden it. So
you see, it's that's just theway it is. This is and she
acted like he drafted the damn antifracking bill and pushed it through, and
then she went after him for athing that actually happened under Rick Scott.
This Chinese company got subsidies in thestate of Florida, and it was when
Rick Scott was governor, and sheblamed Assantis for doing it last night.

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Now I'm bringing this up because shehas no idea what the facts of these
candidates are. She doesn't know enoughabout these candidates dirty laundry, or anything
that these candidates have done that's anegative to actually craft that into a strong,
a strong attack on their record.She jumples it up and then she
loses credibility. Whoever's prepping her shouldbe fired. It's one of the worst

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debate preps I've ever seen in modernpolitical history. It's a mess. So
I'm like, when vivik Ramaswami ishitting her with this stuff, She's standing
there do ied and doesn't say adamn thing about it. I'm like,
how are you not hitting this guyback with this stuff? How is this
not your response? How are younot saying, yeah, well, at
least I'm not taking checks and Iyou know, I'm not you know,

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all of this stuff. At leastI don't have, you know, the
back and forth with getting interest andgetting money from Royvant and making tons of
money with the CCP. At leastI'm not doing this. I mean,
that's just wild to me that thatwas not her first response. So I
think she continues. But you alsohave to remember, too, we're gonna

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talk about polling coming out, becausepolling is garbage, and now we got
to start paying attention to some ofit. But there's no you know,
our CP doesn't include a lot ofthe local primary polling, so we got
to bring some facts of the matterinto this. So I've got some worse
and worst moments and good moments.Chris Chrissy's done after this. It was
just a joke. He just wentHe's very much like Eor. He's got

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this this this anti Trump vendetta.I get it, but we're all tired
of it. I think that washis only purpose up there was to just
complain about Trump. I mean,really, what what is it? So
we're gonna we're gonna touch on thismore, and we're also uh going to
get into some of the latest withwhat's happening at the border, some of
the latest too with Israel. Andthen these universities because one Universe city president

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your Name the United States. Herfirst day in office, she said,
one of the first things I'm goingto do social media, want your name.
She wants That's what she said.You can roll the tape. She
said, I want your name,and that was going to be one of
the first things she did in office. And then she got real serious blowback,
and understandably so, because it'd bea massive expansion of government. We

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have anonymous speech. The Federalist paperswere written with anonymous writers Jay Madison and
Hamilton. They went under pubulus.It's something that's important, and especially given
how conservatives have been attacked and andand they've lost jobs and they've been canceled.
You know, the regime would usethat to weaponize that against our own
people it was a I mean,he's not wrong on that. She is

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on camera literally saying this, sohe's not wrong. I mean there's video
of her like speaking against the bathroombell. I mean her the flashback video.
I think we have this, theflashback video where she's had like even

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she was against this. I'll dosomebody three listen, Well, no,
this is the immigration one. There'sanother one. Oh Wan has it?
Yeah, Wan, go hit thisfor us, please take us back.
So do you think Senator Bright's billis unnecessary? Then I don't believe it's
necessary because I think if you lookat everything that we've had happen, there's
not one instance that I'm aware of. I look at South Carolina and we

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are, like I said, astate where we don't have to mandate respect
behind us. And I think thatthat's something that we have seen play out,
and with that bill in nineteen ninetynine, we're not hearing any issues
of religious liberty violations or anything elseuntil I think we're in good standing.
So do you when you say there'syou don't know of any instance you're talking
about religious liberty or are you talkingabout it transgender back here? Either?

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I mean you know these are notinstances that y'all hadn't reported on anything.
I haven't heard anything that's come tomy office. So when I look at
South Carolina, you know, whenwe could look at our situations, we're
not hearing of anybody's religious liberties thatare being violated, and we're again not
hearing any citizens that feel like theyare being violated in terms of freedoms.
And so I think, you know, like it or not, South Carolina's

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doing really well when it comes torespect and when it comes to she didn't
think it was a big deal,Why did they need the bill if it
wasn't a big deal. I mean, if it wasn't a big deal,
then why why was it even Imean because I mean, clearly there was
an issue. There was an issue. Welcome back to the program, Dana
last year with you bottom of thisfirst hour. I mean, I I

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you know, I was looking backat some of this because she she was
never hardcore against it, but sheI mean, it didn't it didn't pass.
She was against she I mean,she sounds like she was against it.
It didn't pass. It was veryit would have prevented men who wanted
to costplace women from using the bathroomor their choice that didn't have it.
It didn't get to the Senate inSouth Carolina, and so I'm why why,

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I mean, she was on camera. Why in the world you're you're
a former governor, when you goon a debate stage and a very hotly
contested UH primary and you are you'regoing to deny that. I mean,
it's just very simple. If it'ssomething that you've changed your mind on,
say that you've changed your mind onit, but don't don't don't sit here
and and and say that it's nota position that you've had. I mean,

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it's true. I think there wasthere was a this is let's see
here audio sound by seven. Thiswas a cutting comeback because it popped up
again later on in the debate.This was this was I think really one
of the moments kind of ended thatlisten, and this shows how hypocritical Ron
continues to be. When he wasrunning for governor and they asked him about

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that, he said he didn't thinkbathroom bill for a good use of his
time. You can go look thatup. I signed a bathroom bill in
Florida. So the idea that youwould say that I was agailled it.
I signed it. I s littlegirls, you didn't do it, and

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there was this going on. Iwas actually just signed it. That was
great. That was that was agreat moment that he had in that debate,
and that was bad for her.Look, one of the reasons I'm
highlighting this stuff is because it's it'sfurther evidence of folding instead of fighting.
If it's a culture war or whateveryou want to call it, it can

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you can dislike the idea of aculture war, but you have to recognize
that all policy extends from it.That's how it's always been. All policy
extends from it. So you candislike the fact that it's a culture war
or whatever, all policy comes backfrom that. It all begins there.
That was a really strong point thathe had, a really strong moment that
he had last night. And Ithink it contrasts two different kind of factions

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within the Republican side. Within theright. You have the side that thinks
that, you know, these battlesaren't battles worth having. These battles are
the distraction, or they're silly,or well, you don't see the need.
And it gets into the video thatwe played yesterday. It was a
short cut. I felt it shouldhave been longer, and it wasn't our
guy's fault or anything. It wasjust that's how it was put out there

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on the internet. But she hadsaid that in this that she didn't when
it when it came to medically unnecessarymedical mutilation you could say, in the
name of the gender cult. Shethought that that was something that the law
should stay out of, which isasinine to me because you wouldn't aid that's
that's like saying, well, youknow, the parent's abuse, said,

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that's something the law should stay outof. Oh, the child's blameic and
they're they're they're killing themselves with theirbody dysmorphia. That's something and the parents
are aiding it. That's something thatyou know, the law should stay out
of. You don't aid negligent abuseof parenting. That's actually against the law.
And so it comes down to whetheror not you believe that aiding and

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facilitating this abuse in bodied dysmorphia withmedically unnecessary surgeries, et cetera. You
either believe that that is an actof criminality or you don't. And apparently
she doesn't and she doesn't realize theextent to which this is happening. Two
minors. That's a major issue,major problem. And so I thought that

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was that issue, and that thatback and forth there were there those two
instances of back and forth I thoughtwere the biggest hits against her. And
I think those are the weakest spotsin her campaign for sure. For sure,
they are the weakest spots in hercampaign. Uh It It was that
that right there perfectly contrasts the twofactions in the Republican side on this.

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All right. There was a lotmore too. As I wrote about this
last night, Chris Christie, Ithought there was I think his only moment,
his best moment came unintentionally. Therewas this uh time, I was
trying to remember exactly what a fakeRamaswami was saying to her. It was
a goofy personal attack. And Ialways just think people they you act like

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it's a flex. Some people thinkit's a flex to make a petty personal
attack on someone, But it's justa it's a red flag of defeat or
white flag of surrenders. Really whatit is. You're you're it's a defeatist
move. You have nothing else towhich that can to which to to go
to to avail yourself. So youpeople go to these petty personal attacks.
And I think that one thing that'sbeen overlooked by a lot of the folks

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that share that style on is thatit's loathed by independence. I mean,
there are numerous surveys on this,and it's across the board. It is
loathed by independence. And I'll sayit again, all of this is determined
in the margins, right, SoI understand the point that Ramaswami was made
when it comes to sending sons anddaughters to fight. Although he like he

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he contradicted himself. Does he supportnow sending eight does he support aiding you
Taiwan or not? Because at firsthe was like, yeah, let give
him to China, go ahead,and then he took it back, and
then he got mad at the peoplewho pointed out that he had said in
an interview on tape of his ownmouth, Yes, you know, we're
just go ahead, let China haveTaiwan. And then he's like, no,

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we'll send troops. And so Idon't know, he's just as bad
as the rest of them. Hejust wants to He was just talking about
let's just send troops to Taiwan.It was a weird back and forth Anyway,
there was one moment where he hadthis personal attack on Hailey and Chris
Christie. It was a quick secondand it was the time when the camera
panned out and it was you ifyou were on the stage looking at the

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audience. The camera shot was fromthe left side of the stage, and
you could see Nikki Haley kind ofgesture to Chris Christy nod her head and
you can kind of see her saythanks, and he just nodded his head
in acknowledgment. Not because they werefriends. I think he was just he
was like the old grandpa on stage, right, He was like the grandpa
on stage. He was just sortof tired of it and he just and

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that wasn't the first time that Ramaswamihad done that as well. He also
had this audio sound by nine.This was and then apparently Christy got mad
over this and said something to thedebate moderators Listen, I had three things
right there. First of all,Chris Christy also doesn't know what provinces in
eastern Ukraine he actually wants to fightfor. Chris, your version of foreign

(28:32):
policy experience was closing a bridge fromNew Jersey to New York. So do
everybody a favor. Just walk yourselfoff that stage, enjoy a nice meal,
and get the hell out of this. So that was a fat joke.
I mean, it's okay, Kaneif we make fat jokes, but
I don't want my pop. Idon't think that's a flex for a candidate
on stage. That's low t energy. Dude, I don't like that.

(28:55):
That's not clever, it's not youjust you look like a dumbass when you
do it. It just looks Ican't stand that whenever I see people doing
that stuff and they're politicians, likewe can do it because that's what we
do, right, Like we're not. I do not pretend to be a
statesman. Okay, I give youinsight and then i'll give you some opinions.
They're two different things. But Idon't like it when I see my

(29:18):
candidates do this, because you're supposedto be more put together than all of
us, right, that's why you'reon the stage. Right, you're supposed
to have the facts at hand,and you're supposed to be way better than
all of us at this stuff,and that why you're running. Yeah,
I mean, I'm not going tovote for somebody who's worse than me on
stuff, right, That's what thatsignals to me. When I see someone
that thinks that pettiness is a substitutefor wit, I just think that's why

(29:44):
would I vote for somebody as goodor worse than me? And then it
makes me not like that person.That's not my fault. That's that person.
That's a candidate's fault for telegraphing that. I just think that he seems
like again Michael Anthony hoffroms sixteen candles. I think that that is the extent

(30:04):
of his reach when it comes torhetorical skill. He's not a great debater.
And it sounded like that was amanufactured response as well. I had
some of his fans getting mad atme all day. I don't even care.
I have been hated by the establishment. I've been hated by new people
who act like outsiders, but they'rereally more establishment than the establishment. I

(30:25):
have been through that. I've beendoing this since I was in my early
twenties, so I get it.I've been in the streets, i've canvas,
I've done all that stuff. Ihave seen it all, I have
been around it all, I haveheard it all. This ain't new.
It ain't. No, So Ijust now I'm not saying I don't.
I probably wouldn't dislike him personally.I mean, he's been on the show

(30:45):
several times and we got along fineas a as a presidential candidate. No,
there's just certain people you can likethem, but they may not be
the best for the role, right, they may not be the best for
the position. It's like, yougotta look at it like a sports team.
You may like player X, butthey're not as good as player why
at this position. Right, maybethey're not a starter, but you know,

(31:07):
maybe they'll come and clutch when itcomes into I mean, everybody's got
a different role to play, andit's fine to acknowledge that not everybody can
be president of the United States,and not everybody should be. But that
was just some of the stuff.I just I feel like this debate was
the debate where we're going to findout the biggest policy differences between some of

(31:30):
these candidates, and then also we'rejust going to air all the petty grievances
that they all have with each other, and that's kind of it. I
will say that this debate was thefirst time that Hayley named Trump and criticized
him from the debate stage. Thathas never happened. I've watched every single
one of these debates twice that that'snever happened before. So that was very

(31:57):
interesting. Thought. That was justvery interesting. Indeed, so we have
more of these highlights. I alsowanted to get into some of this other
stuff too. The University of LasVegas UNLV yesterday a sixty seven year old
college professor whose job application to theuniversity had just recently been turned down.

(32:21):
He was trying to work at ajob there on campus. Now police are
investigating as to whether or not thatwas a motive. They haven't released a
motive yet, but this guy wenton campus yesterday afternoon open fire. He
was killed in a shootout with police. And you have the same usual suspects
that are going out and saying,well, you know, if we didn't
have the firearms that we do andweak laws, et cetera, et cetera,

(32:45):
UNLV is a gun free campus.Our friend Larry, who lives in
Vegas, was one of the firstpeople to make mention of this to us,
and I actually went. I waslooking at the website after he brought
this up. I went and Iwas looking at their restrictions for campus,
and it's true they I mean,you can't have blade, you can't even
have blade, you can't have knivesor anything like that. There it is

(33:07):
a weapons free including guns including fireprojectiles free zone. So I'm just curious,
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You didn't respond to the criticism.It wasn't about the Parents' Rights and
Education bill. It was about prohibitingsex change operations on minors. They do

(38:21):
puberty blockers. These are irreversible.Talk to Chloe Cole. She went through
this. Now she's an adult,she's warning against it. She may never
be able to have kids again.That is what Nikki Haley opposed. She
said the law shouldn't get involved inthat. And I just ask you,
if you're somebody that's going to bethe president of the United States and you
can't stand up against child abuse,how are you going to be able to

(38:42):
stand up for anything that is thetruth. And we have it on video.
Say that's say that video literally lasthour that you did say that though,
that's the truth of it. Welcomeback to the program, Dana last
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(39:07):
You know, DeSantis made people madbecause he said man dresses. At
the debate, they and it wasa quick like a side and he was
they were talking about, uh,it was like foreign policy, Middle East,
et cetera. And he was askedabout troops the southern border, and

(39:30):
I don't know, it was weirdwhere the responses take the conversation. But
he was talking about how you knowAl Kaida wasn't wearing a uniform, and
he says, you know, yousee anybody walking down the street, they
all had man dresses on. Youdon't know if somebody is a bomb,
et cetera. And people got madat him because he said man dress.
Now, the first time I literallyever heard that phrase was a friend of

(39:54):
mine who is a veteran Green Beret, and he said that was relaying.
Actually, Kane, it was atshot show. I think it was he
since he's it was a friend ofours who we were I think we were
all there. We were at havingdinner at Shaho and he was relaying a
joke that he and another soldier hadplayed on a friend, and that phrase

(40:17):
was just you know. They saidit casually, and I honestly had no
idea what they were talking about.At first, I'm like, what man
dress? It's a man dress,and then I realized, oh, it's
the robe thing that Okay, Iget it. That is such a common
phrase. I've only heard veterans sayit, though, I've never heard anybody
who didn't serve say it, likepeople who've actually been over there in the

(40:40):
heat in the sand, those arethe people that I've heard say. I've
heard it a ton of times sincethen, from a multitude of different bets.
So I didn't bat an eye whenI heard him say it yesterday.
I mean, because he starred,he was over in the Middle East,
so it didn't you know, butpeople there were people who think again,
the people who think politics began theday they were born. They were all

(41:02):
offended Kane. They was a lafan died. I mean, how dare
you say that about that attah?How dare are you nemus smelling salts?
It is wild. It was wildto see the people, like some of
these people try to get all upsetover something like this, like you serious,

(41:22):
like stop. I mean I've actuallyheard Arabic, like veterans of Arabic
descent say this phrase. I literallyhave stop. Just stop, just sit
down. Stop trying to make somethingout of everything. It's so stupid,
it's so dumb. Just don't doit. Did you watch a debate last
night? Came? Yeah? Idid. I think it started off kind

(41:43):
of rough before that first commercial break, it just seemed like everyone was like
throwing haymaker type stuff and it wasjust like swinging to see what connects that
sort of thing. And then afterthat first commercial break, came back out
and it seemed like it started gettinga little more substantive. They started,
you know, going with a littlemore accurate jabs. Things started, you

(42:05):
know, rolling a little bit betterafter that, and then I just lost
interests. I don't know, abouttwenty thirty minutes into it. After that,
Yeah, I I was trying tothink. I feel like I maybe
halfway through. The debate was prettymuch settled after that, and I just
don't know if there was anything elsethat we could have learned from it from

(42:29):
any of the people on stage.Did you learn? I did actually learn,
not learn. I got more insightinto some of the candidate's personalities.
I think from on stage. Oneof the things that I like to see
the best is who gets worked upover when there's a pile on I'm a
little bit of an expert in that. And having a lot of people come

(42:51):
at you all at once in agiant auditorium. I feel like, if
you love Nikki Haley or hater,this is irrelevant. I feel like she
didn't take it well. The unis a very different place from the debate
stage, and that you're expected youare, by way of being the United

(43:14):
States, You're the good guy goinginto this cabal of thuggery. You're the
good guy. So you already havethat working in your favor. In a
primary debate, it's everybody for themselves, and you don't immediately come in with
that understanding of being the victor.And I feel like without that, without

(43:38):
that aid, she did not performwell, if that makes sense psychologically,
I think it worked against her.But I do think that Vivek Ramaswami is
just totally out lee out of hisdepth on tons of foreign policy stuff.
I do even think to an extentmonetary things as well, because you know

(43:59):
he you got some fuzzy math inthere with some of his successes, people
can like him. I also don'tlike these dudes who are these big farmer
guys because he's a big farmer bro. Like. You can love them while
you want to, but let's notinsult everybody's intelligence and act like the dude
isn't a big farmer bro. Dudeis big pharma. Six Ways to Sunday.
Dude created a vaccine database and triedto sell it. So if supporting

(44:27):
a vaccine database that tracked everybody thatgot the clot shot. If supporting that
is the new measure of whether ornot someone is conservative, then now word
has lost all meaning. And there'snever been really a reckoning for that.
There's just we're gonna dodge it andnot address it. But dude's a big
farmer bro. Like you can saywhatever you want. He's a big farmer

(44:49):
bro. Everybody's got everybody's got somethingup there. People get mad at Santas.
They say his boots are weird,he wears heels, Okay, what's
worse, heels are sprayed tnds.I don't know, but that's a big
issue. The database that didn't comeup at all in the debate last night.
That's another thing, Like where washately with that? Dude? I
would have been raining down Every sentenceI would have said to that dude would

(45:13):
have been prefaced with something like that. I just feel like a lot of
people, I feel like that wasa major opportunity. Not one of the
people on stage brought that up,not even Tocantis, they didn't bring that
up. I'm like, wire thatshould be brought up every single time.
That is not a one time address. That is every single time. That
has to be brought up. Idon't know, maybe people, maybe there

(45:36):
are some people out there who aren'tmad anymore over the lockdowns and the vaccine
mandates and all the government tracking.I'm still pretty ticked off about it.
So that's why I hate the vaccinedatabase. And I don't like being told
that what I know is real isnot real. So I still my jimmies
get wrestled on that subject. Forthe lack of a better way to put

(45:59):
it, that's why it's such abig issue with me and why I feel
like they should have been hitting himwith that, you know, every which
way, and they didn't, andNikki Haley didn't, which is why I've
As much as you think that Ramaswamiand Haley winted each other, they really
didn't. They kept it up top. They didn't actually get deep with their
criticisms saying someone's corrupt. Want wanttell people how they're corrupt, show them,

(46:22):
don't just tell them, show them. So very interesting stuff, very
interesting stuff. Now I have someother audio too, We're going to get
into that. I want to switchgears here real quick. Can we play
audio sound bite one? Because thissounds like a threat from John Kirby and
the Biden administration listen to this,and so we can't support Ukraine. Their

(46:44):
chief advisor yesterday said they're likely tolose this war. If they lose the
US support and Putin gets all ofthe Ukraine, then one then where's he
go because right then he's up againstthe eastern flank of NATO. And if
you think the cost of supporting Ukraineis high, now, sagine how much
higher it's going to be, notjust in national treasure, but in American
blood if he starts going after oneof our NATO allies. Because, as

(47:07):
the President also said, we takeour Article five commitments very seriously. That
sounds like a threat to me.I mean, either you do what we
want you to do, now we'regoing to send your loved ones over to
die. That sounds like a threat. It's just an odd SoundBite from John

(47:29):
Kirby. I tweeted about this yesterdaybefore the debate got going. That first
off, the begging the question therethat something is going to go sideways unless
we are involved with boots on theground, Unless we're involved, unless we
give them money. You're assuming thatthey're even using the money, A wisely

(47:52):
b that it's required or see thatthis is even anything in which that we
should be involved in at all.It's not, But that sounded like a
threat. If you think the costof time, now imagine how much higher
it's going to be in American blood. So what are you saying that if
we don't that that argument presupposes thatthat Russia is just going to gobble up

(48:15):
Ukraine and then keep expanding. Theydon't even they don't have the manpower or
the finances to do that, Andapparently the upper crust doesn't have the will
and as powerful as you want tothink that Vladimir Putin is, I mean,
he still has to deal with pallaceintrigue, and he still has to
deal with some of these other folksthat can call shots in their own ways.

(48:37):
So it's not a it's not anend all be all with one person.
I just to me, that seemslike a very antiquated idea or perception
of what's happening there. Antiquated isin you know, eighties, antiquated,
seventies, eighties, antiquated. Itjust it doesn't But that doesn't seem to

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(51:09):
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I don't think so that's not reallydon't really, I don't know if it
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(53:02):
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(53:22):
I love this person's quote the lieutenantpolice, Michigan State Police Lieutenant Reneganzales.
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when I'm driving a patrol car,people slow down when you see seventy
five cops in the store. Imean, I don't know if maybe they
thought we were busy, so that'sthey ended up. They didn't say a

(53:45):
lot about the suspect. That shewas a woman, she bonded out,
she's gonna be charged with retail fraud, her identities, and I yet been
released. That's just one of thedumbest I mean, good heaven, good
heavens. A dinah dash guy ranup a four hundred and fifty two dollars
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pay. He ran away it wasa hotel bill before paying the bill.

(54:07):
And they said that he's that thecon man is under investigation. Four hundred
and fifty two dollars three nights ina hotel. That seems like that's like
a like, what did he eat? I'm just curious. Twenty six pints
of beer. Well, yeah,that's that's some cheap beer. But it's
four hundred and fifty two dollars withthree meals. And Alabama woman stabbed her
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(54:27):
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(57:05):
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That was Joe Biden just yesterday,that was after we were off air,
and he's talking about what he thinks. There's some I guess he's got this
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factors that are incredibly important that constructthis are different. Welcome back to the
program. Like I said, danelLash, listen Coast to coast stream it
Channel three forty seven Direct TV.I've heard this from some Republican candidates too,
and it's incorrect. Russia's broke.They are broke. Now. Yes

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they're making money with oil and dirtygas, but by and large they do
not have the manpower nor do theyhave the financial resources to carry out what
was I guess Putin's vision twenty yearsago. I was thinking about this this
morning, the contrast between what moreneo con and I do think I know,

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I realized. Look, as someonewho hates the use of that word,
I get it. It's tiring.The only thing dumber than that term
is the term uniparty. But thereis a strain on the right that likes
to go to war. Lindsey Graham, excuse me, allergies, thank you,
Lindsey Graham. Sorry, just thereis a strain on the right of

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some lawmakers who do love bombing allthe things, and their first response if
there looks like there might be ahint of a conflict somewhere, Let's send
in the troops. Let's do it. Whoo, I get it there.
So I do think that that termis appropriate when used correct in the correct

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context. Now that being said,I mean sidebar. I literally just watched
this guy give an interview the otherday and that was like the first word
out of his mouth was the military, Like, oh my gosh. All
right, back to my point.I was thinking about this this morning because
what's today the observance of Pearl Harbor. Eighty two years ago today you had

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two thousand, four hundred and threepeople that lost their lives in Pearl Harbor.
Now, a little backstory so youcan understand. I am obsessed with
World War two history, specifically Pacificregion. And the reason why is because

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we had family that were on bothsides of the world. While we had
a grandpa that was in the Pacificfighting the Japanese, we had a grandpa
who was on the beaches of Normandy. It's wild when you look at everybody's
American history, there's not a familythat's untouched and to be in two different
theaters at the same time. Imean, it's just amazing to think of
it. The Pacific and the attackon Pearl Harbor was stunning, and there's

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a lot of I don't want toget into a lot of I've read a
lot of books about the lead upto it and FDR I know, but
I'm not talking about that today.There the United States was anticipating what something
was happening. They were preparing.There are so many things that you can

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use Pearl Harbor for as a basisto whether it's monetary, whether it's trade,
whether it's you know, all ofthis that Pearl Harbor is a good
is a good perspective filter through whichto view these events. But the United
States was anticipating that there were moves. They saw what Imperial Japan was doing.

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Imperial Japan did absolutely of the desireto expand, and they were running
a little bit short on the means. They needed more resources in order to
continue to propel their empire and theexpansionism. It's one of the reasons why
they were going and essentially rating allof these other nations of their resources.

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They were eyeing the Coral Sea.There were a lot of They they wanted
to expand and they needed the resourcesto do so. And they also saw
the United States was preparing for theirincreased aggression as their expansion grew. And
we saw this build up in Oahuand they thought they were going to take
out the fleet. And I thinkit shows also the limitation of what imperialist

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Japan, what they knew at thetime. They didn't actually go and target
target a manufacturing a facility for certainarmaments that was apparently like a couple of
miles away. They targeted the harbor, and they didn't get everything. They
also didn't anticipate the fury of theUnited States and our ability to be self

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sustaining. If the United States hadnot been as self sufficient as we were
back during the time of World WarTwo, I don't know that we could
have won. We were sending stuffto Britain and we were dealing with the
front in the Pacific. I mean, we were torn in two different directions,

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multiple fronts, and we were churningstuff out like crazy. Everybody was
in the factory. My great grandmotherwas literally a riveter. She worked in
one of the factories in that shehad to move up from rural Ozarks,
and she took my grandmother with herso that her husband didn't have all the

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kids. They were trying to separate, you know, each have the equal
amount of kids because they both youknow, her husband had been injured previously
in the war, so he didn'tgo into this one. So he was
dealing with the farm and dealing withthe kids. And she went up and
she was a She worked in factoriesand literally was putting machine parts together.
And there's pictures of her, Wehave old pictures of her with her hair

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up in a kerchief. I mean, she was one of those iconic women
of that era. And everybody didtheir part. Everybody did their part.
We were so incredibly self sufficient,and that was the Japanese were stunned when
in just a matter of months wehad rehabilitated some of the damaged chips and

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had them back out. They wereshocked when we met them at Coorlsey,
they were shocked. Went midway,but Japan absolutely had not only the ability,
they had the will to expand.I think this is an important contrast

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to the SoundBite that I just playedfor you. I don't believe Russia has
the will. I think that insome people's heads they believe. So I
kind of question why there isn't asmuch attention paid to China. Who has

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the will, they have the manpower, and they're almost capable financially for the
means, because it seems as thoughfocusing so much on Russia takes all of
the attention away from China. Ihad this conversation with my husband the other
day we were watching it. Ican't remember which show we were watching.

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It always seems like, oh,it's the Russia. It's the Russians are
the bad guys always. You know, they're the bad guys here. But
can we also talk about the CCPand we don't even have any from what
I understand when we last talked toStephen Yates, who ran Radio Free Asia.
I mean, the guys the guyknows some stuff. His demeanor suggests
otherwise that just means he's that goodat his job. It's kind of scary

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when you think about it. Butthey we don't have. We don't.
The reason we don't get a lotof info out of China is because they
killed our spies. They killed them. I mean that they're pretty there's there's
there's a serious danger there there's aserious hostility. We're kind of in the

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early stages of like a Cold War, world War three. But everybody keeps
focusing on Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. If Russia takes a disputed
territory after they already annexed crime,if they take the Dambis region, and
there's a history there that a lotof people don't understand, and it's not
as clear cut as some people wouldlike for you to think it is,

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how does that put us towards WorldWar three? How does that necessitate troops
going in? Why in the hellwould we send our loved ones over there
to go fight with Russian soldiers overa disputed area that's gone back and forth.
Why doesn't make any sense for thepeople who go like Nikki Haleey,
who's been on this program and wastrying to tell me that they they're on

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NATO's doorstep, NATO's Look, I'mnot saying this as a way to cast
Russia as the sympathetic figure, butyou realize Lava and Estonia, which were
part of the Eastern Block and arenow NATO members, border right up to
Russia. Correct, would that notbe the doorstep we're talking about and it's
been like that for a while,so I don't think that there's an urgency

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there. I mean, Russia didn'tdo anything after a Lafia and Estonia.
We're part of NATO. I meanFinland's going to join up. Russia is
not. You don't see Russia doinganything. I don't think that they have
the will. I don't think thatthey have the manpower, and they don't
have the financial resources to do whatall these people are saying that they want
to do. They're trying to fabricateand create out of the ether a want

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to be war that just simply doesn'texist in that part of the world.
Meanwhile, things are kicking up inthe Pacific. I don't want to go
to war with China either. Idon't like war period. If somebody messes
with us, though, I thinkyou should turn them to glass and war
as hell. And there's going tobe a lot of unintended consequences that go
along with it. But such aswar, now, that would be different

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because China behaves in some fashions verysimilarly to Imperial Japan. You know,
we had tariffs and restrictions on ImperialJapan at the time, particularly on energy
which some argue that made them moredesperate, which is why they began making
riskier moves in terms of gleaning resourcesfrom other countries that they were invading,

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and it further exacerbated the problem andsped up that unavoidable conflict. I mean,
you know, history is always twentytwenty people. You know, it's
very easy to play armed strategists whenyou're looking backwards in time. But there's
some similarities there, for sure.What are we doing about it now?

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Though there was a very good answerthat DeSantis gave yesterday, because I don't
like and I'm not just saying thisbecause I guess they get it. I
have a preference in the primary,but I want to win twenty four,
but this kind of goes along.I I think I made I think I
tweeted about this and we don't reallywe don't need a planning audio. But
he was I don't like answering hypotheticalsbecause I think that you're especially when it

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concerns foreign policy, because you're doingone of two things. You're telegraphing something
and giving basically, you know,an answer to the enemy that they don't
deserve nor need, because it's justadvantageous to us for them to know.
And then secondly, also, Ifeel like you're short changing yourself by committing
yourself to maybe one plan of actionthat hasn't yet formed, and it just
seems shortsighted. I don't like dealingin hypotheticals like that. There's a difference

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in preparation, and then there's adifference in having a concrete plan to a
hypothetical where the variables can change itany moment. That being said, there
was a question that was asked ofthe candidates about whether or not they would
send troops to defend Taiwan if Chinadecided to invade, which they're not going
to do, but if China decidedto invade, would the United States defend
with boots on the ground. AndDeSantis, I thought, had the answer

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with the most insight because he said, well, that's not going to happen
because of the steps we'll take beforehand. And instead of focusing on well what
steps would you take, they justwanted the sound bite. The moderators just
wanted the sound bite, which Ithought was short sighted. They they were
just like, well would you takeit? Yes or no? And it
was like that to all of thesecandidates, and some of the candidates took

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the bait. Dysantas was like,well, you know, I'm not it's
not going to happen. Now.What he's talking about is specifically very similar
to the lead up of world inthe lead up of Pearl Harbor with the
United States in Imperial Japan. Thereare a lot of things that we could
do in the meantime to actually makeit more difficult for China to act and

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also a show of strength. Nowsome of those things we started to do,
there hasn't been a lot of itas much attention paid to that part
of the world as there has beento the Middle East and with Russia.
But there He's right, there area number of things that we still have
available at our disposal to do toward off something like that so that a
cold conflict doesn't turn hot. Andthat went completely undiscussed in the debate last

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night. I was so excited whenthat came up and I thought, here
we go, and then the moderatorsjust wanted to sound bite, so was
Ada ELS's I don't know, well, who WHOA there's a bigger fish here
and you're missing it. For theMinno, that was frustrating because that I
think that's the question that I wouldask all those candidates. If you don't

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want military conflict with China, whatwould you do to avoid it? What
is your action to avoid it?What is your action, what diplomatic or
trade or whatever actions would you taketo protect I want and avoid a hot
conflict with China. That's the questionI would want an answer to. But

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that wasn't ass Last night. Wegot more on the way. It's his
life mission to make bad decisions.It's time for Florida man. So I
like when Kane sends this over andhe's like, this is a different sausage
story because there was a fight.Was it a fight between a couple and

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of one we had this Monday?Like the lady hit the dede with the
sausage. I think the dude hitthe lady with a sausage. But it
was like a summer sausage either way, man, anyway, Okay, so
this is a whole different sausage fight. This is that was an accident.
A Florida man hurls sausages, saidolder brother during disagreement. Emergency responders used

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to saline solution to wash out thevictim's eyes. Okay, really, A
sixty year old quote brat in Floridais facing charges after he hurled sausages at
his older brother. According to thearrest affi David Penell's County Police Department,
the sixty year old Ray Allen gota heated argument with his older brother in
the backyard of their Saint Petersburg home. Police said that Alan threw sausages right

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at his brother's right side of hisface, and they said that he had
to have he required ems personality asa saline solution to wash out the unidentified
victim's eyes. They said that Alanmay have been drunk. He was arrested
on a charge of domestic battery andbooked it he threw a sausage at you.
You're a sissy if somebody throws asausage at you and you're like,

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I need saline solution in my eye. I think some of the meat got
in it. I don't know,Like, really, am I wrong,
Kane? That's ridiculous. Anyway.The guy was released from jailly pled not
guilty to misdemeanor, but he can'tcontact his older brother. Oh my gosh,

(01:12:56):
this this is like one of thedumbest things I've ever read. Another
Florida man wins a million dollars becausehe played Florida's lottery scratch off game.
I am not in as interested inthat as I am about the guy who
well, I'm going to save thisone for tomorrow. We got another one
for tomorrow because this guy had atantrum at a senior center over his DMV

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vision test. A lot of wordsI can't say stick with us start out.
The media is making a big dealabout what he said about some of
these comments. I would just remindpeople that is not how he governed.
He didn't even fire doctor Fauci.He didn't fire Christopher Ray. He didn't
clean up the swamp. He saidhe was going to drain it. He
did not drain it. He saidhe was going to build a wall and
have Mexico pay for it. Wedon't have the wall. He did say

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in twenty sixteen he'd have the largestdeportation program in history. He deported less
than Barack Obama did when Barack Obamawas president. Wow. That's wow.
I mean just total unloading, justtotal unloading. You know that was when

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was that? I think that waslike pretty early in the debate last night.
I think that that happened. Welcomeback to the show. Welcome back
to the show, Dana last yearwith you always good to be with you.
Top of this third hour, anduh, we've been covering the moments
of the debate. I think it'swinnowed down after this. I mean,
come on, you got I mean, I don't see Christy making the stage

(01:14:35):
again. Ramaswami barely qualified for thedebate. With polling, it's gonna be
Haley and DeSantis that there's another primarydebate, and at some point Trump is
going to have to debate, especiallybecause the people are blasting Biden for not
wanting to debate. I'm like,you, get out the boat. Ways,
come on, you can't do both, all right, So I just

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like it. You know why Iget First off, let me just say,
welcome everybody, Dana lash with you, Let everybody rejoin, set the
table. You can listen to theshow Coast to Coast, Strain the simulcast,
sign up for the newsletter word Substack. I don't know why people get
bent out of shape to make thecandidates have like a Mortal Kombat kind of
fight in the primary. That's whatthey're for don't forget you are the person

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that they're supposed to try to impress. I think some people got this backwards.
They get very, very upset ifthey're a candidate, if they feel
like their candidate is slided during theirprimary. No, no, no,
don't be upset for a candidate.On behalf of a candidate. You should
be your first priority in this situation. This is a republic. They're supposed
to be kissing your butts. Okay. I don't care who they are.

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I don't care how nice they are. I don't care how great this state
is that they govern. Your buttsare the ones they're supposed to be kissing.
Stop doing it the other way,Do not do it the other way.
I don't know. I just maybethis is why I hate going into
DC. I would be the worstpublic assist in the history of that industry
because I cannot Kane's laughing. Shutup, why you laugh? Because I

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know it's one of those if youknow, you know moments. I just
I just don't care. I don'tcare to do any of that, the
small talk, all that stuff,making nice with people, none of that
stuff. I don't want to goand kiss no of the butts of any
politicians. I hate that. Ialways get I feel weird about it when
people I know go to all ofthese events in DC and they share all

(01:16:33):
this stuff on their Instagram. Hair'snay with my cocktail and this politician here
we are together and they're I mean, I get great for them if that's
what they like, but I don'tlike being that comfortable with people. I
get real weird the moment you're runningfor office. It just changes. I
don't know what it is. Itgets real weird. Betwixt us gets weird,

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and I don't like when I feellike the positions are reversed. And
that's what a lot of these operatorswant you to think. A lot of
these influencers out there on social mediaon Twitter that run groups, they think
that you're supposed to kiss the buttof this candidate and be a fighter for
this candidate, and it's supposed tobe the other way around. So I
like the idea of all of themfighting in the primary because it benefits me

(01:17:23):
the voter. That's how this issupposed to be. It's supposed to benefit
you. And I even say this, I have a preference in the primary.
I still want a fight. That'show this is supposed to be.
Oh why do people get this twistedand look at it like this too?

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Wouldn't you want to know if theperson that you like in the primary,
say they totally fall on their faceover a question or something, or something
comes out at the debate. Wouldn'tyou rather know before you cast your vote?
You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like that's that's
how we should be looking at thisstuff. I don't know, I get

(01:18:05):
I have people that are going offabout loyalty and turns, and the one
way to get me riled up isto lecture me about loyalty to a candidate,
because we literally overthrew a monarchy overthat. So if that, if
you're not animated by that spirit ofliberty, you need to be questioned your
American credentials because that is not weare not. So there's no such thing

(01:18:30):
as loyalty to a politician in theUnited States, none at all, whatsoever,
none, none, not at all. So I just please keep that
in mind. People get mad ifthey think that I'm not carrying water for
a candidate, even if I likea candidate. I've gotten criticism from people
who you know, if they thinkI'm not carrying enough water, or if

(01:18:50):
I'm not going or if I'm notcarrying any water at all, or if
I'm too critical or f I'm tothis, Well, that's what I'm supposed
to do. Number one and numbertwo, I just don't have that view
of politicians. Somebody asked me,They're like, well, shouldn't you be
trying to help them get votes?Somebody asked me this on social media last
night and I laughed, and I'mlike, that's not my job's lick,

(01:19:13):
that is not my job. It'snot my job to get votes for DeSantis.
It's not my job to get votesfor Hayley or Trump or Ramaswami or
Christy. That's each of these candidatesjobs to make that case. I just
like call them balls and strikes.And if I see that somebody makes a
good point, they made a goodpoint. If I see that somebody's acting
a full, then I'm going tosay that they're acting a full. But

(01:19:33):
it's not my job to get anybodyvotes. Now. When I first started
in radio, I would canvass onbehalf of issues. I never went door
to door for a candidate ever,and I don't know if that's weird or
not. I did phone bank fora candidate once, but I always my
thing was I would I was reallypushing against the healthcare, the healthcare bill,

(01:19:59):
all of that stuff, going doorto door with grassroot groups for that.
But and there's nothing wrong with camp. I'm just saying in radio,
you know. And I always tellpeople exactly where I stand, so there's
no confusion. And the only reasonpeople even know if they want to criticize
me is because I told them.But it's these candidate's jobs to get their
votes. That's literally why they're runninga campaign that said Trump's going to have

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to debate. He might be.He not too precious to debate, y'all.
I'm gonna tell you, the lasttime he was debating on the debate
stage was before COVID, it wasbefore Parkland, it was before some things
that have happened, before the governmentshut down, before the economy is shut

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down, before we talked about takingthe guns and having due process later.
So don't tell me that there's noneed for a debate unless we're not holding
people accountable for their records or thingsthat they've said, or things that we'd
want to know about, because wejust don't know where they stand on new
things that have occurred. Nobody's toogood for debate, and I don't look
at it as a sign of strength. I look at it as then you're

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worried, especially if it's a record. You know, if you got to
sit here and can tell defend yourrecord, are you worried? Like I
look at it like that. Andnobody too precious to come before you and
debate the end. So that beingsaid, we're gonna have another one of
these stupid things, aren't we?How much went in January? I think

(01:21:30):
I saw the twenty third. I'llhave to double check out. So at
least like we've got some time afterNew Year's yeah, a little bit,
okay, I mean, what elseare they gonna It's gonna at that point
it'll be just hailing Desantas. AndI just feel like enough of a contrast
has been made. If the RNCwas smart, they'd be like, Okay,
the rnc's too Honestly, the RNCis afraid of Trump and they shouldn't

(01:21:51):
be. But Rona Romney McDaniel hasher seat because of him. I'm not
being mean, I'm being honest.She's got her seat because of him.
He hand picked her, He wantedher in there. She would not have
that seat if it wouldn't for him. You know that she's a Romney.
She would not have that seat ifit wasn't for him. Come on,
but she can't run that group.They don't like me. I have a

(01:22:13):
feeling has the RNC ever liked me? Though? I used to criticize Ryan's
previous pretty extremely. I criticized what'shis face? The guy Michael, what's
his face? He's over at mshman BC now or whatever. I communicate
with the RNC on a regular basis. Yeah, they'll talk to you.
Well, yeah, I'm nobody thatI booked, you know is going to
be talking to you. Yeah.But they're nice to you like you're you're

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They get along with you, Yeah, that which means they get along with
the show, which I don't.I haven't heard any anything from them.
They don't talk to me. Rnc'snever talked about well, they haven't shut
any sort of communication down with theshow. But I just you know,
you know, when you know,you know what I mean? You know,
I'm just saying, like, youknow, if you know they I
remember, and I get along withRyan's previous he and I. I can't

(01:22:56):
remember what it was. It wasat an event. We kind of we
had a nice, healthy debate becausewe ended up actually we were having I
think I was broadcasting and I wentto have lunch and I was sat right
next to him, So we endedup having a very healthy debate on the
direction of the R and C.It was very interesting. But my whole
point is that I think that theorganization needs to grow some jimmies and step

(01:23:18):
up and be like, Okay,this is how it's gonna work. You're
all going to debate. Y'all,gonna get on stage, y'all gonna make
your case to the voters, becausethat's whom we're supposed to represent. None
of y'all are too precious to doit. A lot of stuff has happened
since the last time some of y'alldebated, so there's some things that absolutely
have to be discussed, and votersare owed that those answers and voters are
owed to hear about it, andnot enough has been said about it publicly

(01:23:41):
because softball interviews with people don't count. They don't So that's the end of
it. And if the RNC wasreally in this to win and actually knew
how to win. That's exactly howthey would be operating. But they're too
afraid, they're too afraid of theirown shadow to do it. And if
they don't get it right, we'regonna lose a House as a Senate,
will lose a White House. GoodbyeAmerica. I smile when I say that,

(01:24:05):
but I don't mean that. Idon't mean it as a smile,
And that's a very serious I mean, that's true. I mean it would
be impossible, at least in thenext couple of generations to come back from
what would happen if we lost asbadly as we are projected to on this
current path in twenty twenty four.Too many seats up in the House,
too many competitive seats in the Senate. I mean, it's just there.

(01:24:27):
There's no way, and they're havingenough. They're having a hard enough time
doing yes. In Virginia. Ithought they overperformed last time we were talking
about that election. That's why Ithink that Virginia was kind of I think
that election that they had there wasa bellweather and RNC hasn't learned from it.
We've had Scott Presler on the show. He's going to all these states
getting out the vote and registering peopleplaces the RNC won't go to. Why

(01:24:51):
why don't they go there? Whyare they not more involved in on the
ground. I got to shoes.Everybody's so afraid. Everybody's like protecting egos.
I mean, if you're more interestedin protecting egos, then you are
the country GTFO. We got afew other things I want to make sure

(01:25:13):
that we hit as well, becausewe got to talk about finances. We
have the president that wants to letme pull this up. How much was
it eighty it's eight billion or eightybillion? Oh jeez, of more student
loans that Biden is looking to cancel. Oh sorry forgive this. And you

(01:25:33):
know what that means. That meanseverybody in their brother is going to be
paying for it, except you knowthose people four point eight billion in student
debt. Now this is he wantsto wipe loans. The new plan wants
to wipe loans for eighty thousand borrowers. Don't you love that language? Just
wipe the loan? Do you?What does that mean? Wipe the loan,

(01:25:55):
make it go away? Like,what is fascinating? Is it?
Not? Eighty thousand people a lotof them are government workers. They're not
doing anything about the very specific stepsthat increase the cost of college and also
consolidated student loan administration entirely at thefederal level, which also ran up the

(01:26:18):
expenses. They're not doing anything aboutthat. This is a bailout of epic
proportions. It's vote buying, ofcourse, nicely timed, you know,
in an election cycle too. We'regoing to discuss this, and then we're
also going to discuss there's a fewother things to hit as well that you
need to be that you should payattention to. Grevor Norquis is going to

(01:26:40):
join us on this tax case.It could be a major fiscal policy change
and have significant implications for US taxpayers. We're going to talk to him about
that as well. And now allof the news you would probably miss,

(01:27:00):
it's time for Dana's Quick five.So man gets a new trial after he
was convicted of murder based on ablind witnesses testimony. I mean, this
is this is something else, Yeah, we got I went to Cook County
judge overturned the murder conviction tuesday ofa man who was found guilty and a
fatal shooting at a Southside gas station, primarily based on the testimony of an

(01:27:25):
eyewitnessed who turned out to be legallyblind. Darren Harris was an eighteen year
old high school senior at a cleancriminal record. Prosecutors charged him in an
ambush style shooting that left one mandead another seriously injured. This is all
the way back in twenty eleven.This is how long this case has gone
on. Now he's thirty years old. He's long maintained his innocence. He
said he was staying home watching LebronJames playing the NBA Finals between Miami Heat

(01:27:46):
and Dallas Mavericks. But a nowretired judge found him guilty in twenty fourteen,
Simpton to prison for seventy six years. Now, four years later,
his legal team, everybody else,they began urging a conviction integrity, and
they found out that one of thewitnesses is actually blinde like the witness that
everything hinged on was blind. Yeah, that seems olive oil. We told

(01:28:06):
you this was gonna have an oliveoil prices skyrocket. As the Spanish drought
continues. They said it's a badyear. Two years in a row,
twenty two and twenty three of badolive harvests. According to these farmers of
olive trees, they said that it'sit's in Spain is the biggest olive oil

(01:28:28):
producer in the world. They coverseventy percent of the EUS consumption forty five
percent of the rest of the world. They said, the lack of rain
and elsewhere they've had a big impacton the olive oil and the price.
So that's probably you're going to seethat being more expensive. Cops say a
man stole a public bus stopped ata waffle house. Well, I mean,
you know that makes sense. Itwas a big o' city bus and

(01:28:50):
he went and stopped at a wafflehouse. He got in trouble for it,
and he's on camera stealing and everythinggrow over an oorquiz to explain this
court case that could affect taxes foreverybody. To stick with us, whether
you're a policy walk, a newsjunkie, or simply someone hungry for insightful
discourse that Dana Show podcast as you'reback, follow Dana on Apple, Spotify,

(01:29:11):
or wherever you get your podcasts.If we just said, if you've
got more than fifty million dollars inassets, and we put in place a
two cent tax on your wealth.And by the way people pay taxes,
pay property taxes all the time onunrealized games. You pay your property taxes
on your home. But a twocent wealth tax. Think what that would

(01:29:34):
mean in this country right now.It would mean that we could provide universal
childcare for every one of our babies. We could put much more money into
our public school system. We couldprovide free post high school, technical school,
two year college, four year college, we could cancel all student loan
debt, and we could still havea lot of money left over. It's

(01:29:58):
really easy to be Santa Cla withother people's money, is it not very
easy? You know, in thisspirit of giving, I'm going to demonstrate
my generosity by giving you someone else'shard earned money. Look how generous I
am. That's like the whole Thatis the whole basis of the left's economic
belief set and their fiscal policy.Welcome back to the program, Dana,
last year with you bottom of thisthird hour. I immediately thought of when

(01:30:23):
I saw this interview. I waslike, whatd Grover Norquist say about this?
Because I know that Elizabeth Warren's probablyone of his favorite people, one
of his favorite mathematical minds out there. As you know, Grover Norquis is
president of Americans for Tax reformatr dotorg. He joins US now, Grover,
very good to see you. Ijust wanted to get your initial reaction
to that SoundBite from Elizabeth Warren.This is the woman who is the poster

(01:30:47):
child for student debt. She madefour hundred thousand dollars a year teaching a
course once a year. There area thousand people in Boston who know more
than she does on the subject,who have done it for free to work
at Harvard. But she's taking fourhundred thousand dollars away from students and saddling
them with student debt, which sheevidently is willing to pay for with other
people's money. So maybe that evensit out. Yeah, maybe, maybe

(01:31:10):
so. I mean she's also oneof the people directly responsible for the increasing
cost of college. I mean,when the government moved to consolidate everything at
the federal level and handle administration ofstudent laws, what do people think was
going to happen? She was oneof the people there for it. She
created the problem, She was partof the problem. It's very sad,
but she has a new idea.If you're worried about your income taxes and

(01:31:32):
the business taxes and sales taxes andproperty taxes. She's got an additional tapeworm
to add to your problems that willmake all the other tapeworms be more restrained
or maybe not. I love thatyou'd use tapeworm to describe that. I
don't know if I've ever heard amore perfect description. And I'm going to

(01:31:53):
steal it. I'm going to completelysuitlessly steal it because it's perfect. All
right. I wanted to ask youabout this because there's this there's a case
right now before Supreme Court. We'vementioned it a little bit on the show.
We were really waiting for you becauseyou you know so much about this.
This this concerns this move from thiscouple, Charles and Kathleen Moore.
They had invested almost half a milliondollars in this business in India named Kaisen

(01:32:15):
Kraft. They marketed power tools toIndian farmers. They got thirteen percent of
the company's equity. You know,that was a pretty decent investment. But
what ended up happening is that theywere hit with this it's like almost fifteen
thousand dollars tax bill and on moneythat they had not yet possessed or what
they would call on realized gains.And I mean it seems like a pretty

(01:32:38):
open and shut case. They're citingArticle one, section nine Claus four where
they're talking about no other direct taxshall be laid. That seems pretty clear.
So why are we all the waynow at the Supreme Court with this
case because the left is desperate fornew sources of revenue. You're quite correct
that when the thirteen States got togetherand created the federal government, the biggest

(01:33:03):
concern they had was that the centralgovernment would tax their people and cause the
same problems that we had with Britain. Okay, we had a whole war
because we didn't want the British governmenttaxing at certain space. So they were
very specific. Now they weren't veryslap dash and the rest of the Constitution,
but they were extremely specific. Congresscan have these kinds of taxes.

(01:33:26):
When the big spenders of their daywanted more money and they wanted a personal
income tax, that had to amendthe constitution. Because the Supreme Court twice
struck down efforts to get a incometax during the Civil War and then even
afterwards. I said, that's notin the constitution can't do it. Antax
income. And so they said,okay, we have an income tax.
Now they want to say income that'snot realized. Income that isn't income will

(01:33:51):
now be income, meaning your lifesavings, the increase in your life savings.
Elizabeth Warren and others have said theyreally want a wealth tax, which
is clearly unconstitutional. But this isthe midway to get to a wealth tax.
It's the increase in your wealth tax, which is not permitted. If

(01:34:13):
if you sold your stock you wouldpay capital gains tax on it, that
would be income because you would haveit. The couple that went to the
Supreme Court, we filed an amicusbrief that Americans for tax from friends of
the couple, not friends of thegovernment. We're with them, not you.
So and they said, and wesaid, they don't have the money.

(01:34:36):
It's not income. And by theway, if the stock went down
next week, they could lose money. Okay, is the government going to
be writing checks to people who losemoney every time the stock market goes down?
To Bezos, get a three billiondollar check, and when it goes
back up again, he's got tosend it back, and you ping it
back and forth it makes sense totax the tax income. You tax income

(01:34:58):
when it's income. Yeah, andthat seems like that's the ultimately the core
question that has to be resolved inthis case. I know that there was
I had read a linguistics professor thatalso filed an amicus brief, and they
were going back to the whole etymologyof the word, saying that you know,
at the time, you know,when all of this was drafted,
everybody pretty much realized that this wasmoney that you had to have made and

(01:35:21):
had to be real in order forit to be taxable. Which it just
makes it seem like the government's caseon this is incredibly weak. How do
you think that this is How doyou think that this will be a resolved
I don't see how this Supreme Court, which has several members in it that
have read the Constitution all the waythrough pen can miss the fact that non

(01:35:45):
realized income property is not income.Your house is not income, right.
A stock is not income until yousell it. Then it could become income
if you made money, can alsobe a loss if you write the price
had gone down, which is whyyou wait until they sell it to decide
what it is. At least that'swhat normal people do. I think they
have to say if not realized incomeis not income, it is wealth,

(01:36:08):
it is property, and it's notaxable. Now they could then end with
that and then other courts would dealwith Are there other examples of this?
In the twenty seventeen bill, therewas a measure which deemed that certain property
had in overseas had been brought backto the United States and then would be

(01:36:31):
recognized as income. But he hadn'tcome back to United States, so they
were at a taxi. That's wherethey got into this mess because they were
trying to make some things balanced andthey weren't paying attention, and they were
under a lot of pressure, andthey shouldn't have done what they did.
They should just strike that down.Whatever revenue was raised from that needs to

(01:36:54):
stop. And if you want tohave a wealth tax as a constitutional amendment,
if you want to have an unrealizedgame tax past the constitutional moment.
But Biden and the other Democrats havebeen talking for some time. They want
to figure out how to tax yourfour o one K, your individual retirement
account, your health savings account,your education savings account. They've been trying

(01:37:15):
to get in there to tax itfor some time, and taxing unrealized games
tracts open those life savings projects thatare so important to more than half of
American. Right, it's just notpretty rich people. This is more than
half of American. That's exactly whereI was going with this next, because
that's how it's always that's how thisis presented. We're talking with grown reorquist

(01:37:39):
Americans Retax reformatr dot org. That'show this is always presented to people as
a way to sort of you know, the Elizabeth Warrens, the Joe Biden's,
Kamala harris Is. They're like,oh, well, this is all
in favor of rich people. Butwhat you just it's not as you just
described. But this is trickle downtaxation. Politicians like to say, we're
going to tax rich people with theincome tax. You have to make more

(01:37:59):
at the time, more than elevenmillion dollars when the income tax was put
in to pay the top rate ofseven percent. Now more than half the
country pays more than seven percent.Trickle down taxation. When they put in
the tax for the Spanish American Warmore than one hundred years ago, they
had a tax on phones, onlong distance phone calls, and phones cost

(01:38:20):
like nine thousand dollars at the timein their dollars, very expensive. Very
few people had them. But withina few decades all Americans had a phone.
So the tax on the rich oran emergency. The war there was
going to be temporary. War wasover at some point. I went to
public school, but somebody told methat the war ended a while ago,

(01:38:41):
and so it's an emergency. It'stemporary, and it's just the rich people,
except pretty soon it's all the time, everywhere, everyone trickle down.
They always introduced taxes, telling youit's someone else, a few people,
not anyone. You know, stepout of the room. It may not
be pleasant, but it's not you. When they say they got tax the
rich, they haven't finished the sentence. We're going to tax the rich first,

(01:39:04):
then you, And that's how italways works. Talking with Grover and
Norquist, this also would empower Imean, I can't. I mean,
this is why they probably were preparingfor this, what they assumed was an
eventuality. With this case, youhave the eighty eight thousand new irs agents.
Because if you're out there unable totax all these unrealized gains, goodness,
you've got a lot of busy agents, a lot of work for them,

(01:39:25):
going after unpacking, going through andsurfing through everybody's or O n K
or individual retirement account and now allof the ten ninety nine k's that they
want because you send money through throughthe internet on PayPal or any of the
other venmo and so on. Ifthey want to tax all of those,

(01:39:45):
sell something out of your basement flexibleunless you have the receipt the whole thing's
income. They need a lot ofirs agents going through your basement looking at
everybody's flea market, at everybody's youknow, when you sell stuff from your
back of your house or out onthe street or on demo or Craigslister,

(01:40:06):
any of these things, they wantto tax it all. And if you
don't have the receipt, you sella motorbike, perhaps for a lap less
than you paid for it. Yeah, but I don't have the receipt.
It's all income prove it isn't.Ooh, that's oh goodness. I'm glad
that you're confident that this case isgoing to be resolved in favor of the

(01:40:29):
taxpayer as opposed to in favor ofthe government. But I mean, who
knows, because there's a lot ofother stuff that's already been passed, like
you mentioned Venmo. Looking at whatis it, I think the minimum six
hundred dollars. I mean, that'sstill it's not in effect yet, but
it's been delayed as I understand it, but it's still there. It's still
going to be implemented. It's inthe law. The law has not shamed
illegally. The President has said we'renot going to enforce it, meaning please

(01:40:53):
don't yell at us during this electioncycle. Okay, we'll enforce it after
I get reelected. This is thesecond time they've delayed it. It's not
legal. The laws says, it'sall owed that they've taken it down to
six hundred dollars, and it's goingto hit many, many pens of millions
of Americans. They realize the pushback, and the Republicans said let's repeal

(01:41:15):
it. And when that was movingforward, then the DIRS, which is
completely political under this administration, respondingto Biden saying, our political needs are
for you to lie to people andsay we're not going to enforce it,
and we're not going to enforce ityet, and of course we'll come back
as soon as they get past thenext election. Yeah, and there's going

(01:41:35):
to be a lot more to talkabout then. Heaven help us all.
Grover Norquiz with Americans for tax reform. Always a pleasure. So appreciate what
you do. Thank you. FollowDana on Apple, Spotify or wherever you
get your podcasts because knowledge is yourultimate superpower. I mean, we've been
very very clear about the supplemental andhow important it is. As you've seen,

(01:41:58):
the O and B director has beenpretty out, pretty out there on
the different networks making the case.And one of the things that she has
said is that it's stunning. It'sstunning that we've gotten to this point.
Right, It's stunning that we havegotten to this point, and that Republicans
in Congress willing to give Putin agift, the greatest gift that Putin could
help could hope for. That's whatwe're seeing. And so they are playing

(01:42:21):
chicken with our national security. That'swhat we're seeing here. And history will
will remember them harshly. What becausethey want to secure the border. History's
going to remember you harshly because youwant to make the borders the care bad
bad payple bad Republicans are so badwhat that that I think she's got this

(01:42:43):
backwards. I think she has usbackwards. Indeed, we're going to discuss
this more tomorrow on the radio programas we conclude the week, and make
sure that you sign up over atsubstack, chapter and verse. Because I
had a thing about the debate thatwent out, and then I think actually
I had something related to this,because this is the second day in the

(01:43:03):
road that the administration has messaged thatSoundBite that wanting to have any kind of
finance apparatus for the lack of abetter way to pay to say it,
in any kind of legislation, thatin doing the border instead of sending money

(01:43:24):
on accountabil no accountability to Ukraine.That that's that's I'm trying to wrap my
mind around those on the struggle bus. What I'm still that's the first and
foremost job of the United States government. Technically, the government has but a
few jobs. Article one, Sectioneight, just a few. Anything beyond

(01:43:45):
that is excessive and technically excessive denoteson constitutionality. So uh, that's literally
you had one job. That's theirone job as it pertains to national security
is making were the border secure.I told you day before yesterday, as
Bill Malugin reported over twelve thousand,twelve thousand illegal immigrants in one day.

(01:44:10):
Can you imagine that's that's almost fourtimes No, that is four times the
size of the town that I almostfour times the size of the town I
was born in. That's insane.And they can't handle it. You wonder
why now border patrol can't handle it. You wonder why now they're trying to
make sure that they have all theports of entry covered and it's even affecting

(01:44:31):
commerce and all this other stuff becausethey just don't have the boots on the
ground to handle it. It's justit's shocking. And cartels are exploiting this.
It is a boon for them,all right, today's stupidity came.
All right, it is Hakeem Jeffrey'she's the minority speaker or minority leader.
Is he the guy thought that guamwood tip. No, that's Hank.

(01:44:55):
No, that's Hank Johnson. TheIAEA completely different. But weapons of war
are not used on deer. Iwould agree, I guess kind of,
but not so. But let's listento what he says here about that we
should not have access to weapons ofwar. Does that even mean this country
is built. I'm not used tohunt deer. Nobody use hunt human.

(01:45:17):
Nobody hunts here with tolado. No. And by the way, weapons of
war are used, yeah they are, yea, they are used like all
the time. But air fifteen's liketo to nobody uses to like to do
the five five six for for deer. In fact, some states you can't
use that for deer because it's toosmall. Anyway, good grief, folks.
That does it for us today.Make sure you sign up for substack,

(01:45:39):
chapter and verse, and I'll beback behind the mic with you tomorrow.

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