Absurd Truth: Hunter Biden's Ex-Girlfriend, Lunden Roberts, Joins Us

Hunter Biden’s ex-girlfriend and daughter’s mother, Lunden Roberts joins us on "Out Of The Shadows: My Life Inside the Wild World of Hunter Biden. Dana follows up after her comments recently about the viral “Hawk Tuah” girl. 

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Episode Transcript

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find us on x Rumble, allof those good things. So this
is obviously a story that we followedfor quite some time, and stories like
this because you have the politics ofit. But because of the nature of

(01:06):
this story, there was something thatresonated within me about this story because I
was raised by single mom, andso you know, this kind of story
hits me a little bit more personalthan I think some of the other stories
that I talked about, because Iknow, you know the struggle that kids
feel when they grow up and youknow, you have daddy, daughters,
dances, and you have all ofthese huge issues in your you get married,

(01:30):
you have these huge issues in yourlife, and you don't have a
very significant person there with you totake part in that. And it's even
worse when it's a decision that thatperson makes, not because of death or
anything else like that. So andI think I've talked to you guys about
this before, and I've always justfelt very enraged on behalf of my next

(01:52):
guest because of this. London Roberts, I think is an incredibly brave person
because I can't imagine stepping out intothe storm of this political you know,
catastrophe whatever you want to talk,however you want to call it, and
she's just doing it to fight forher daughter. And I think it's safe
to say that she's motivated entirely byfighting for her daughter. We've seen all
kinds of stories and seen all kindsof women, you know, try to

(02:15):
get things, and you know allthese Gloria all Road and all this stuff.
Her story, her her pathway,has been very different. She has
a new book out called Out ofthe Shadows, My Life inside the Wild
World of Hunter Biden. She's theex girlfriend of Hunter Biden and she's the
mother of beautiful little Navy Joan,who I think everybody first saw on the

(02:36):
cover of this book, and sheis a gorgeous little girl. And London
joins us now via Skype. London, thanks so much for coming on with
us and to just really kind ofreally humanize this story, kind of pull
it out of the political world andreally sort of humanize it. And I
know you're doing it for your daughter, and I know that one day she'll
see all this and think that mymom was so incredibly brave for doing this.

(02:58):
So congrades on the book. Iknow it comes out August twentieth,
And just thanks so much for joiningus. I appreciate it. Now,
the first question, this is abig step to come out with a story
like this. Why did you feelthis was the time to do it.
Well, I mean for a lotof reasons, but you know, the
main reason for me is throughout thisbook, you know, there's it starts

(03:19):
off with my relationship with Hunter andall these wild crazy things that happen,
all these wild crazy stories, andthen it goes into the paternity suit,
and this is kind of what Itell people. You know, the healing
journey is a process, and it'snot something I would have been able to
talk about a year ago or youknow, two years ago, because you
know, if you think about it, I didn't follow the paternity suit until
my child was what ten months old, because that was a healing process that

(03:42):
I had to go through. Iwasn't ready. And so you know,
I'm at a point now where it'staken a lot of healing and a lot
of time that you know, Iwant my daughter to know that I stood
pin toes down and was able totell my story despite whatever narrative was held
against me, and and who washeld against me, it doesn't matter.

(04:04):
I want my daughter to know that, you know, her story matters,
and I want her to always beable to tell it. And so I
don't know what better gift I couldgive my daughter this year than you know,
my book for her birthday. Itcomes out the week before Oh wow,
that's that's beautiful. And the andthe and the timing for that,
that is a great that is agreat birthday gift. And it's called Out
of the Shadows My Life Inside theWild World of Hunter Biden because you get

(04:26):
into all of that and this.I know that, you know, because
you you guys have settled. Youyou had a court battle, and we
were all kind of watching that like, who wouldn't who would want to deny
or not be accountable for their youknow, their daughter, especially the sweet
little girl. Do you feel atthis point are you in a good are
you in a good spot with thatrelationship? Do you feel like he's done
enough to kind of acknowledge and affirmher place with him. You know,

(04:50):
a public statement was given, andyou know he he does zoom calls with
her, but you know there's alwaysthat little zoom call she'll throw in okay
and maybe we'll come by and seeyou sometime. You know, it's difficult
because she's your daughter, and youknow you want what's best for her,

(05:10):
and you want exactly what she wantsin life, and she yearns for that.
Right. So, I mean,I think he's taken step forwards forward,
But it's it's tough to say thathe's he's done all he can.
And I know he's in a toughplace. You know, he's going through
so much right now and so muchis on his plate. But you know,
they always say family first, andthey always put their family first.

(05:33):
And they can take weekends to CampDavid and go on all these places.
And and there's one little Biden thatdoesn't get invited on this trip. One
little Biden that doesn't get to goon the trip. And that's the other
the other she's never met her hergrandfather. Has she no? And I
know you haven't. You haven't metthe president. She's never met her grandfather.
Has she met any of her halfsiblings or no, No, she's

(05:56):
not. She actually found out shehad have slings when back in the day
when the news would be on.And I've I've gotten very protective about putting
her in places where the news ison because these days you don't know what's
fixing a show on the screen.Is it something from the laptop, is
it you know, something with herfamily that just seems like, you know,
a slap in her face. Andone of the last times that you

(06:18):
know, we're around the news.It showed that I don't know what they
were talking about, but they hadthe family picture there from their inauguration and
and Hunter was holding his son,and Navy's like, that's my dad.
You know who's he holding? AndI have to tell her, you know,
that's her little brother and you know, and and then she's, well,

(06:40):
who's that? And who's that?She's asking down the line, Well,
those are you know, those wouldbe your big sisters. That's you
know, Hunter's other children. Shesaid, do they live with my daddy
and I live with you? Andyou know, I said, I don't.
I don't know. I don't knowwhere they live. I can't tell
you that. Well, how comethey g it? Demon I don't.
They must live close to him thatI do. And I'm like, that's

(07:01):
probably what it is. Yeah,And the questions will probably grow the older
that she gets, because she's soyoung now, she's like five years old
now, the questions are only goingto grow, right, And you know,
I talk about that towards the endof the book. There's a lot
of hard conversations that I have tohave with her. She's so intelligent for
her age and so brilliant, andyou know, she she wants to know

(07:26):
who her dad is. And she'slike, you know one of the stories
in the book. She asks.She comes up to me and she says,
can I hear my daddy's voice?And you know, what do you
do? So the only thing Icould think of was to google the eulogy
that Hunter gave at Bo's funeral,where you know, he says when he
woke up from a car accident,and he says, you know, he

(07:48):
can hear Bo saying I love you, I love you, I love you.
And my daughter's looking at this phonescreen watching it. She just whispers
back to him, I love youand kisses the screw. And of course
you know that it's heartbreaking because shedoes. He doesn't even know how much
she loves him, and and it'ssad this. We're talking with London Roberts,

(08:11):
who's the mother of beautiful little NavyJoan, and she's the one of
the littlest Biden's and I think everybodyknows London's story, and she's been so
brave and talking about this. Iknow that there was discussion about the name,
like whether your daughter was going tohave his name, and he had
said that he wanted to protect her. It was like for security security purposes,
and that's why he didn't want herto have his last name. But

(08:33):
everybody knows that that's his daughter,which seems sort of like a defeating argument
for him to make. How didhow I mean, what is the resolution
on that? Is she ever goingto have the Biden name? The last
time and I talked about it throughthe child support dispute, which was also
the first time I had talked tohim since I'd been pregnant, and this

(08:54):
was last year. We sat downand he said that, you know,
he felt like it was first securitypurposes and her living in Arkansas probably wasn't
best. And you know, atthat point I didn't care. I just
you know, he wanted he wantsto, you know, develop a relationship
with her through zoom and through art. And at the end of the day,

(09:16):
you know, I felt like mydaughter won because you know, that
was Father's Day that she got toshe was getting a dad. Like,
whether it's over zoom balls or whatever, this person that she has yearned for
so much and wanted to meet,she's finally seeing, even if it is
on a phone screen. And we'dactually decided that, you know, one
day when she's old enough, shechooses her last name that's yeah, and

(09:37):
that's that's good for her. I'mglad that she's getting that, that she's
at least getting like somebody there likesomething that you know, he's taking that
spot. You mentioned when you werepregnant, and I've read and I know
that this was something that was discussedI think during your All's Your your your
core battle the time that you werepregnant, because I know that you worked

(09:58):
at Rosemont Seneca and the there's astory that I don't think a lot of
people know about that it just seemedto sort of just flutter out of the
press, and it was the storyabout how, I mean, you were
on the company insurance and then yougot kicked your pregnant and you get kicked
off the company insurance, and thereare all of these text messages where you
know, Hunter apparently you know,was kind of behind removing you from being

(10:20):
insured while you were pregnant. AndI was reading this and I was really
angry on your I was absolutely lividon your behalf because you know, I've
got kids, and I know howterrifying all of that is and you're dealing
with you know, health insurance andyour doctor's checkups, and you don't want
the added stress of that on topof it. Can you talk about that?
And how did you even find outabout it? Well? I found

(10:41):
out because his assistant had text meand told me that this would be my
last week gone on the payroll andstuff. And Hunter wanted to relay that
message, you know, because hecouldn't talk to me, He couldn't address
me because he knew that what hewas doing was wrong. He knew that,
you know, he had a childon the way, and it was

(11:01):
he knew all that, and sohe had someone else tell me. And
the rage, the heartbreak, itwas just like I knew that he was
never going to take accountability and hewas never going to step up. And
it took time to process all ofthose emotions because it was I was in
a dark place myself because I'd comehome and you know, I'm pregnant with

(11:24):
a man who's literally abandoned me.He's not talking to me anymore. I
know he's suffering from addiction. Andy, He's in a dark place, so
I making excuses for him. It'spossible that I'm carrying, you know,
one of the next first grandchildren andthink of the scandal you know that this
is going to cause, and thenyou come home to the small town and
there was I didn't go out.I was in a really dark place,

(11:45):
so I didn't really go anywhere.I tried to stay home, and there
were so many rumors around the smalltown about you know, me being pregnant,
not who knowing who the father was, and being ashamed, and like,
no, I was doing that toprotect him. I thought by me
coming home to Arkansas and not tellinganyone who the child's father was, protected
him. And I took all thatbacklash. And you know, then you

(12:07):
have a child and you become amother and you're like, there's no way
when this child gets older. Andshe asked me who her dad is,
I'm going to tell her I don'tknow, or I'm going to tell her
don't worry about it. No,you know, from the beginning, I'm
going to be honest, and I'mgoing to fight for him to take accountability
and own up to his child,because a child doesn't just go away.

(12:28):
And that was something that I wantedto make very clear, especially when all
those things were happening, like frominsurance to you know, the payroll to
just not acknowledging her, you know, and I'm sending messages letting him know,
you know, she's here, shewas born, and I just get
left on red. There's nothing lefton red. And when you were told

(12:52):
that there wasn't any money to help, you know, with your medical with
the medical expenses, or to helpwith navy Joan know, he's he was
buying some nice cars and spending abouthalf a million dollars on women, and
there were a lot of expenses thatwere going out on his end. He's
going on nice vacations. I mean, that's kind of jarring to see,
you know, things like that inthe press, and then you're dealing with
everything protecting him, dealing with whatyou're dealing with in Arkansas. How did

(13:13):
that make you feel hurt? There'sa lot of times throughout the book,
you know, like I contemplated suicideat that time in my life. I
knew that, you know, Iwasn't going to do that as long as
I was pregnant. But you know, there's a chapter throughout the book that
was really really tough for me towrite, and without my co authors,

(13:35):
I don't think I would have gottenthrough it because it was. You know,
I talk about how I've become thescandal, and it's possible. You
know, Hunter had invested his trustin me, and I let him down
because I became pregnant, and soI turned into this horrible dark place mentally,
and I think that, you know, after the pregnancy, I'll just
you know, if I'm gone,Navy, you'll have a better life.

(13:58):
And you know, she'll be broughtup by my parents, who are you
know, great people, and she'llhave this this backbone of support with my
family, and then there won't beno scandal for Hunter, because you know,
it'll just it'll go away. IfI go away, it'll go away.
And you know, throughout the book, I even talk about in that
chapter, you know, I wrotea letter to my mom and my dad

(14:18):
and my sister and like the firsttime I fed Navy, I talk about
being so detached because my cousin washolding her in the room and they bring
her the bottle in for the firsttime you feed her, and I'm just
like, you can feed her,it's no big building. They're like,
no, the first feeding has tocome from the mother. And the thing
that went through my head was Iprobably should because one day, maybe's not

(14:41):
going to have very many pictures ofher mother and I or her and her
mother, So it's probably best thatI do the feeding and at least one
day she can cherish this photo,you know, like it. It got
to a really dark place. Andit wasn't until I found that love for
my child, and you know,a mother's love is the greatest thing on

(15:01):
earth power really, And it wasn'tuntil then that I dug myself out of
that hole. And once I dugmyself out of that hole, I followed
fraternity, and I knew that Iwould break down any barrier, and you
know, withhold no pity to anybodywhen it came down to my daughter,
because that was the one person Iwas going to protect and be. Therefore,

(15:22):
to say that I died, Ilove that you had said you never
once thought about abortion. And Imean here you were talking about removing yourself
from the equation, but never,but never Navy, John, we're talking
with London Roberts, and I knowwe only have a few minutes left.
I know that there's no protection,there's no Secret Service protection or any kind
of security afforded to Navy, eventhough everybody knows who she is. You've
talked about your home getting broken into, and that's obviously is a huge concern.

(15:48):
No security though, even though she'sthe granddaughter of the President of the
United States. Yes, and youknow, the more I talk about it,
the more it just doesn't make anysense because she is a granddaughter.
And quite frankly, you know,there's so much going on out there in
the world that you don't know howfar someone will go right to get that
you know, that family. AndI'll add to that, the President has

(16:10):
said, quote, all his grandchildrenare protected by the Secret Service, and
this is in multiple news articles.He has said this to the press publicly.
Uh and at least the White Househas has has commented on it.
And that's so that that's but NavyJoan is the one who is not afforded
the same sort of protection as theother grandkids. No, Naven Joan has

(16:30):
has no secrets or goodness this,Uh, what would you you know?
And we're talking again talking to LondonRoberts, what would you say to because
they not just Hunter, but maybethe first family, because it's also important
that that kids know where they comefrom and they know, you know,
the other half of their family.The other half of their you know,
genetics, where you know who theirgrandparents are, who their aunts and uncles

(16:53):
are. What would you say tothe family, because since she's in the
nation, sees that she's always leftout, and some days she's got to
see that as well. I don'teven know how you prepare her for that.
What would you tell the family?What would you say to them?
Maybe to you know, on herbehalf. Well, you know, in
the book Out of the Shadows ofthe Last I end it with a letter
to Hunter that I write to him. But you know, to to everybody

(17:17):
involved, is what you've missed out? If you have missed out on such
a beautiful, brilliant child, andthose are the years that you can never
get back, you know, thoseare those are things that I wish they
could have been involved in. Andbecause those are I mean the best years
of their life, it seems asa mother and you know, watching them

(17:40):
grow and building this foundation for them, and you know, you've missed a
lot. And I just have toask why, what's the point in that
She's a beautiful little girl and you'resuch you're strong fighting for her and I
and I appreciate that about you andThank you for coming on and being incredibly
transparent about everything. The book,which is out August twenty eight, You

(18:00):
can pre order it now. Outof the Shadows My Life Inside the Wild
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(23:41):
a piece that I'm gonna have comingout about this because I'm looking at the
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(24:49):
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he's an okay guy. I meanhe turned water into wine and everything.
Woo. Now, some folks,you know, celebrating blowjobs on video and
on hats and on concert stages andin interviews. You know, the press

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store is probably just starting. Isawesome and hilarious, So lighten up you
not a hose, right, Butit's also a complete contradiction of the traad
revival, which sees women as womenand men as men and rejects modernity which
I hate and embraces and celebrates tradition. Correct progressives hosts SlutWalks, and that

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was bad. We made fun ofit, right did we not make fun
of it? And they're bad?But wait, what's the new rule?
Because now conservatives publicly venerate bjs andmerchandise the cell libration. So what is
bad? What's the new role?I didn't get the memo. Is there
a new role? I just don'tknow. Everything's bad that the right does,

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or is at least if anyone evenpossibly thinks it could be from the
right, that's bad. Well,no, I don't my whole point is
I don't want us to start sayingthat this is good if we have our
own version of it. Right,No, no, no, I say,
okay, I see what you mean. Then you're right. It's trying
to play the game that they've beenplaying this whole time. That is Yeah,

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that's my whole entire point. AndI don't want to single anybody out,
you know, but my whole thingis I don't want to say,
wait, no, it's only goodif the Right can do a version of
it, and then if we haveour version of it to counter their version
of it, then it's okay.Because then if our version of it is
okay, doesn't that then somehow makeokay by its very presence what they're doing.

(27:51):
Do you see what I'm saying?And then you can be like,
well, that's one thing, andthis is another easy thout. And there's
another angle too, where it's like, you know, the narrative of the
Right being so uptight all the time, and it's not. Look, i'm
gonna tell you people, you're notuptight. If you're not a hoback,
Okay, you're not being uptight.You're being classed. Something like this is
said and is funny and it's inpassing. But I think a lot of

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this was the left capitalizing on itto kind of shove it in people's faces
in a way, because did yousee that, remember when the story came
out that she had a dad thatwas a preacher and that she got Like,
I've seen all kinds of stuff comeout, but I've seen all the
merching come from one. Let's bereal. I mean, I it would.
It's one thing. If it's like, oh, somebody said it in
a video, et cetera. Iget it. You're young, you're you're

(28:37):
twenty three, you say something camera, that's fine. It just happened.
Seemed like there was a lot ofeffort behind this one particular thing. I
don't know that I agree with that. It looked like it. To me,
it looked like that. Here's thebiggest thing, though, part of
the reason that we're in this mess, and hear me, part of the
reason that we're in this mess isbecause feminism has sold sexual promiscuitous freedom and

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empowerment. That's like the big reasonwhy we're in this mess. I mean,
you're women were told to fornicate forfreedom. Really, that's kind of
you know, that's one of thecore principles of feminism, and this has
been, as you know, agreat gift to families and divorce rates right

(29:22):
now. Simultaneously, feminism has unyokedmen from any kind of responsibility, any
kind of accountability or duty to thewomen empowering themselves through sexual freedom right,
a practice which hasn't at all,as you know, contributed to the classification
of abortion as a woman's right orany of the sort. So I think

(29:48):
the point in this, there's liketwo things that I'm seeing. The first
is that I think part of theright is becoming just progressively unchurched and more
culturally left leaning and entirely unaware ofit. And then I also think that
there is this idea that you cansomehow remake something that is bad into a
virtue if you do it simply becauseyour bias alters your perception of whether it's

(30:15):
good to do or not, ifthat makes sense. That's what I don't
like, because then you're becoming whatyou oppose correct And it's not prudish,
which again is Latin for Nataho.It's not prudish to say maybe you should.
I mean, if you make onething to an aside, like in
a private conversation that you don't expectto get out, you know. I

(30:37):
mean, granted, I could getreal a Bible thumper on you, and
I could be like, well,you know, maybe you shouldn't see anything
privately that you wouldn't want to expressin front of the world, or say,
as my grandmother would say, nextto Jesus. And then I got
in trouble one time because I waslike, would you I heard you gossiping
at lunch? Would you say thatto Jesus? And it was like the
only time my grandmother got Madam me. That's an aside. Anyway. I
just think that there's it's one thingto be one moment, but it's another

(31:02):
thing to like build it and keeppushing it and keep pushing it and keep
pushing it. And this isn't eventhis is not so much. This is
like less about the video more aboutthe rights perspective on things. Right now.
I look at this and then Isee all the red pill stuff.
Have you seen that, like thetraad wife movement where you have these chicks
that are twenty three, barely married, never had kids, and they want

(31:22):
to sit here and lecture all ofyou about what successful relationships look like.
Never mind the fact that their nicknamewas Mattress when they were in college and
in high school. That's you know, I see that happening too, which
is gonna be a whole other topicof discussion. But I'm just curious as
to what this sort of convergence lookslike culturally for the right in the future.
That's my whole point in this.Don't take something that you don't like

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on this side and think I'm gonnado it and make it virtuous. Because
you're doing it, it's still notthe best thing to do. That's the
whole point. Don't be prude aboutit. Thanks for tuning into today's edition
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