September 2, 2024 • 27 mins
Joel Berry from The Babylon Bee joins us to debate the state of the GOP & how old-school, pro-life evangelical leaders are a thing of the past and how Christians need to adapt. Meanwhile, the Biden Administration will ban federal government using plastic cutlery to combat climate change.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's time for Florida man.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I immediately want to go to the guy who was
trying to steal steak, so I'm not going in order.
I'm sorry, but this immediately caught my eye, as you
can imagine it would anybody's. So this Florida man stole
four Ribbi steaks and hid him under his shirt, hid
them under his shirt out a Walmart. According to deputies,
man just wanted some red meat, that's all. Angel Rivera
(00:37):
sixty six was charged with petty theft of one hundred
dollars or more after he on this Walmart Ribbi theft.
He hid them under his shirt and they got him
on camera. He went and picked out four packs of Ribbis,
placed them on the top part of his shopping cart,
and then he went to a different aisle where I
guess he thought cameras couldn't get him, and he hid
(00:57):
them under his shirt, which he was covered by a jack,
and then he left without pain. Walmart asked that protection
officer confronted and he gave the stakes back. They waited
till deputies arrived. It was. They were recovered but damaged.
One hundred and two dollars for four stakes. One hundred
and two dollars. Man, that's a lot. So he's he
(01:19):
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(01:42):
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say he would rather literally jump to where the sharks
and gators live. A Florida man he did not want
his girlfriend or his cops to access his phone and
he jumped into the ocean to avoid giving it up
and flet try to flee arrest after he was being
grilled by police while out on a boat. There's body
(02:02):
cam footage. It shows two female Florida fish and Wildlife
Commissioner Commissioned officers questioning the guy. He identified himself as AJ.
Him and his girlfriend on a boat in the Keys
and UH. He was arguing with his office, the officers,
and his girlfriend over the phone. He got agitated and
jumped into the ocean, and because he goes, what if
I just swim away? And then he led I love
(02:23):
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he I don't know what they didn't actually say, like
what they just said his boat was breaching code and
they didn't have any like documentation with him. And that's
pretty much all they because I really don't know why
they were stopped or why. But to me, like not
(02:44):
even letting your girl, I'm just saying, just just saying.
It sounds a little sketchy. Sounds a little sketchy. Oh
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argument that has really erupted on the right about the
place of Christian faith in the RNC, And there's a
lot of concern about the removal of like pro life
language from the platform and the removal of defining turn
to marriages being between a man and a woman. And
I love what Joel Barry said. He's the managing editor
(05:05):
of The Babylon b and I wanted to read this
to you because I think it should. It's the kind
of long for a T shirt, but it's T shirt worthy,
he writes. Quote in his he wrote this on X
he said, quote, Sorry, pro life evangelical leaders, when you
nominate weaklings like Romney McCain and Mike Pence, you lose elections.
When you act like politics is too dirty for Christians
(05:27):
to be involved in, you lose the party. When you
think evangelizing entails inviting your neighbor to megachurch movie night,
you lose the culture. The Republican Party is no longer yours.
But you weren't pushed out, He writes. You gave it up.
You stopped fighting for it. You were too busy building
your stupid megachurch kingdom with its twenty eight satellite locations
and inane self help sermons, while the culture and the
(05:48):
country fell into disrepair. There's still time to turn it around,
but you have a ton of work to do. And
he adds too that you lost the Republican Party long
before Trump. They paid lip service to your cause, but
they never really cared about it, and you were satisfied
to remain uninvolved and punch the ticket for whichever polite,
milk toast family man with good hair told you the
(06:09):
right things while giving up on every single issue. And
he ends with Trump and Trump supporters didn't start this,
they just exposed it. Oh my gosh, that's a sermon.
And joining us right now is dooel Berry with the
Babylon being. God love you for writing that, because I
am so glad that you said this, and I say
this as someone who lives in a town where we
(06:31):
just had a megachurch scandal at the Gateway Church with
one of the pastors over there, and it became this
huge thing. And I'm like, and I always hear all
the time from so many leaders like, don't you know
politics is dirty? Don't get involved in it. You know,
it's not. It's like you're you're not really, it's like
bad for Christians to get involved. I'm so glad that
you said this. Tell me what your thoughts are of
all of this, because I think what you said is
(06:53):
what a lot of people are really feeling.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, I think evangelicals, for the most part, have themsels
elves to blame for this. For the last two decades,
we've been told, you know, if you get involved in politics,
if you're an outspoken conservative, you're worshiping power, you're practicing idolatry.
You're living for the kingdom of man rather than the
Kingdom of God. You know, you hear all this stuff,
and our leaders have been examples of complete impotence. In
(07:17):
spite of our high ideals, the things that we believe.
They haven't done much good for the Republican Party. They
haven't done much good when it comes to preserving our
culture and stopping the march of the left. And so
we shouldn't be surprised. I mean, you know, while while
we were being lectured from the pulpit about not being
too political from our evangelical leaders, people like car Meat Dillon,
(07:40):
we're kicking down doors, you know, fighting for liberty for
our children and our grandchildren. And so of course the
Republican Party, they're going to go with the people who
are actually fighting, who are actually doing something, as opposed
to the people who are kind of sitting off to
the side, just waiting to be catered to like evangelicals
have for so long.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, and you mentioned, you know, while these people were
doing this, people like Dylan were going out and fighting
the good fight. And even during the COVID lockdown, I mean,
our church was one that locked down, and i I
mean we had, like, you know, people within our church
talk about how it's you know, it's it's nice to
wear your face masks because it makes other people feel
comfortable and you know, keep six feet away and yes,
(08:19):
you know, and try to justify you know, at a
time when the church should have been open and they weren't.
And that's when really a lot of people were really
motivated to get out, and that's why we see so
many people and there's so much passion right now. But
you make such a good point, because I do feel
like the church kind of accommodated that, not all, but some.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Well yeah, I mean they COVID was a great shame
for the church. I mean the fact that the church
is shut down for months and months and months when
when people, the sheep Christians needed to be fed, needed fellowship.
It was such a colossal failure. And in a time
when you know, the left is aggressive, the left is
getting their policies, you know, passed, when at a time
(09:01):
when we need people who are bold, people who are
willing to speak the truth in the hostile culture, people
who are willing to fight and win. Evangelicals, especially particularly
our leaders, not necessarily the rank and file, haven't done anything.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
A great example. You know, I live in Ohio.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
We had Issue one, which was one of the most
horrific pieces of legislation. It it it legalized abortion up
to the moment of birth for any reason, no questions asked.
In a largely conservative state like Ohio. I was part
of the pro life movement at the time. Getting pastors
to say anything the pulpit, you know, to to oppose
(09:37):
issue one, Getting churches to organize to you know, to
help with voter drives or or attend protests, anything like that.
It was like pulling teeth because pastors, well, you know
that's politics. You know that we're not supposed to be
involved in that. We might lose our tax exemption. There's
this there's this great fear in evangelical churches about doing
any of that.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Not so with the left.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You go to a Democrat church, you go to you know,
you know, a black church, they are preaching politics every
Sunday from the pulpit. They are getting souls to the polls,
they are organizing, and we're just not doing that. And
so I think the Republican Party they started to look for, Okay,
we need we need people who are willing to fight,
and evangelicals just don't seem to have the fight in
them anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I think that's a huge point. We're talking with our
good friend Joel Berry, and I think you're making a
point that a lot of people are really scared to
make because nobody wants to look like they're being too
harsh and criticizing the church or criticizing their faith, or
criticizing their elders or anything like that. And I get
that totally. But then at the same time, there are
a lot of people asking, well, where's that representation in
the RNC. You know, the language about traditional marriage and
(10:37):
the language you know, on abortion, and that's I mean,
it seems to be like you know, and it is
kind of a pretty moderate, uh you know, write down
the middle position on all of that stuff for this platform.
It's not anything like we've seen prior to Republican RNC platforms.
And it's as you said, it's because you know, evangelicals
really remove themselves from that fight. I don't really see
(10:58):
a lot of that activism as much on the right
that as I used to see when I was younger.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, and well, I think the good news though, is
that I think the younger generation has mostly rejected that
kind of that weak need evangelicalism of you know, the
last twenty years. I think the bold Christianity and outspoken
Christianity is back. It is sad to kind of see
it being taken out of the official Republican platform, but
(11:25):
I think that it's I think it is coming back
in a big way, and I think our voices are
going to be much louder, and I think we're in
the next ten years you're going to see Christians being
a lot more effective to get some of these political wins.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Talk to me about this for a minute, about the
idea of that it's you're being a bad Christian if
you're involved in political outreach, because that, if it's not said,
it's definitely intimated in a lot of churches, and I
have so many, so many of our friends in our church.
It's like it's like the dirty thing, like we you know,
people know that I work in politics. It's like a
dirty thing that we just don't talk about in It's
(11:58):
just very odd. What what are your thoughts on that?
How do we overcome that?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I think part of it is a little bit of
an embarrassment reflex. You know we you know, the nineties
and the eighties we had the moral majority and the
Jerry Folwells, and there's this kind of like, well, we
don't want to be those icky, you know, right wing
Christians and and and so a lot of evangelical leaders
have kind of taken upon this mantle as being like
pr reps for Christianity. We have to be cool, we
(12:24):
have to be kind of, you know, pleasing and winsome,
and we've got to invite people in. We can't be
like those hard nosed Republicans, we can't be like the
Rush Limbaugh types. And so so they kind of just
pushed all that aside, and there has been there's a
lot of kind of like passive aggressive, like shaming of
any outspoken Conservatives, outspoken Christians who are involved in politics.
(12:46):
And you know, as a result, you're seeing you know,
school boards in largely Christian areas are being populated completely
by leftists, you know, city council, local elections. I mean,
we've completely given this up to the left. You know,
the evangelical voters are the most reliable, pro life, pro
family voting voting block. I mean, if churches were to mobilize,
(13:10):
we could make sure that a Republican never lost an
election again. But I think there's there's just been this
this overwhelming fear from our leadership, you know, to look
bad to They don't want to look uncool, they don't
want to look square.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And it's a bit and it's like a business approach too.
I mean, I understand that, you know, you're out there
trying to win souls over, but sometimes maybe and correct
me if I'm wrong on this. Sometimes for me, it
seems like, you know, you have some leaders out there
that are more interested in adding more you know, seats
to the corporatized megachurch than actually going out and winning
the souls.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, they're entrepreneurs now.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
They're trying to get more more butts and seats and
they have one people to their their buildings with you know,
slick programs and cool music and really kind of watered
down sermons that don't really have a lot of death
to them. And they're at the point now where they
have these you know, twenty thousand person churches, a third
of which are are on the left politically, and they
(14:08):
know that if they speak out that they're going to
lose all these people.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
What do we do?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And so I think a lot of it is absolutely
it's money, money motivated, because it's.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Not like people are speaking out on you know, like
just trying to think of you know, like taxes or
something like. I mean, you're talking about life and you're
talking about, you know, the building blocks of a functioning society,
which is a family, that parents, I mean, and a
woman start and you know, all of that stuff. I mean,
these they're not controversial things. I mean, it's very biblical,
but they're very nervous to talk about any of this stuff,
(14:41):
and which is weird because the stereotype from the left
is that they're not, but in reality they are.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, Well, you know, the thing I always tell people
is that Christians are meant to be salt and light.
You know, our presence in the world should make the
world look different. We're not meant to just kind of
sit in our churches in our ivory towers and we
just kind of like listen to our sermons and that's it.
We're supposed to go out and it's supposed to make
a radical difference in our communities and our states and
our countries. And so I hope, I hope that the
(15:09):
tight is turning in Christianity in America. I hope that
we're kind of turning back that fear that we've had
for so long, because we are we're going to lose
our republic, We're going to lose our freedoms if evangelicals
don't start mobilizing.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, that's a good point. One last thing. You add,
you want God back in the party. Me too. That
requires you to emerge from your pristine ivy ivory towers
and take your Christian faith into the ugly, messy world
of political action. You add, feel free to join us,
But I won't hold my breath. You don't sound very
optimistic there.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I'm naturally a pessimist that way. I'm always something good
happens right right right. I hope it does turn out well,
I hope it does.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And and what do you I mean, do you think
that that's gonna what would you like to see? I actually,
this will be my last question to you. What would
you like to see with regard to this issue in
the RNC, Because I understand the people. I understand people's
and I completely agree with you one hundred percent on this.
I understand that concern that individuals have. But like you,
I'm like, well, where were you out here fighting for
(16:08):
this or why were you so quiet on this issue?
And it's always like the same groups forever that have
always held the line on issues of life or a
marriage or things like that. And some of the people
that I see speaking out the loudest about this. Now
I've noticed we're pretty silent during some of these battles before.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, I think really, the only thing that's going to
turn this around in a substantive way is going to
be it's going to take radical spiritual revival from the
ground up. I think all of us need to repent.
Our leaders, we need repentance, We need repentance. We need
to get back to the basics of what scripture says,
preaching the plain truth of scripture, speaking the plain truth
(16:44):
of Scripture to this post truth culture, and living it out.
And I think once we do that, I think you'll
start to see this ground swell of change. It's going
to look weird and mysterious, and we're not going to
be able to necessarily put our finger on it. But
I think it has to start in the churches with
repentance and revival in our hearts and getting back the basis.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This is you. I keep hearing people say, oh, we're
navigating a post Christian world. I don't know if I'm
ready to adopt that line of thinking yet. Post Christiana. Yeah,
I'm not ready to. I'm not ready to accept that.
Joel Berry with the Babylon b God bless you, my friend.
I appreciate you joining me today.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Thank you thanks for having me.
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(20:29):
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(21:20):
In a bid to save the world, the Biden administration
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(21:47):
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(22:09):
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(22:31):
It takes everything I have. I want to throw it.
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(22:54):
I have a what is it cornstar straw. I would
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I just the cool thing about those is they eventually
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Yeah, it's a straw. So I don't know why people
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he's doing. He's gonna reduce the sale of single use
plastic products on public lands. Well, what are you supposed
(23:39):
to eat with? But if you if you go to
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gonna you know what, it's gonna be like, what's that place?
Medieval times? It's gonna be like medieval times. You gotta
go in. They're just gonna give you turkey like you're
gonna gnawed everything with your hands. That's what they're gonna do.
Can I tell you a story? Sorry about that? By
(24:01):
the way, I legit just heard thunder right now? The
hell is going on in Texas? Are your windows down?
Look at us? We're like, can do you need to go?
Roll your windows up? So you've been in medieval times? Right?
That's like the castle where you know, if you're buying
medieval times and you've never gone when there wasn't any
in Missouris. When we moved here to Texas, we had
(24:22):
we went twice. You had to go and I you know,
I'm not I'm not gonna prove I always. My husband
was like, this kind of bougie Dana because I brought
literally plastic cutlery with me. I've seen people do that, Okay.
My husband was like, why are you doing that? Because
we evolved and invented this stuff. That's what That's why
I'm doing it. Look at this. We don't eat with
(24:44):
our feet and hands anymore because we evolved as a species.
That's why I'm bringing it in.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I've improving my chopstick skills.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I brought wet ones and everything. I'm like, I could
sit here and just eat this stuff with my hands,
scooping up some taters or whatever, but I doing it.
You know, I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It clean my hands off on my jeans.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, They're like, yeah, well they basically send someone to
lick your hands off with. They don't do that, but yeah,
it's the sobet So I was just like, nope, I'm
gonna take care of my business because I came prepared.
My husband could not believe. He looked at me and
he was like, I'm watching you open like the equivalent
of a quick mart here at medieval times. It's like, no, no, no,
there's certain things that I don't do. And it's not
(25:24):
because I'm being bougie or anything like that. Like I
love the outdoors and I love rocks, and I mean
it's like I got to eat dirt or something to
like convince people that I love nature. I love nature.
Who but he do? It's great. I love being outdoors,
but you know what, I also don't like pretending to
be homeless. And that's why I don't camp, because we
as humans invented the house, and as as a result,
(25:47):
we stay in them, right, just like we as humans
invented cutlery, and so I will use that. I am
not going to throw away.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Generations of achievements of our ancestors by saying no, I
don't want your house or your cutlery gonna pretend to
be without.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm not doing that. I'm just not gonna do it.
Sorrys first, but then we invented the house. Mm hmm.
It's like saying, let's go back to the flintstone cars.
Let's pretend for a little bit. Nope, that's okay, I'm good,
I'm all right anyway. Biden, Yeah, Well that Biden's he's
(26:31):
gonna solve all the world's problems because he's gonna go
after the plastic forks and we'll fork you. It's not
gonna do anything, not gonna do nothing. I mean, basically,
isn't it gonna just raise costs on people. It's gonna
be like military bases and government workplaces. So instead of
maybe here's the thought, instead of trying to reduce the
(26:54):
use of plastic cutlery. Here's that maybe reduce the size
of the federal government. What that sounds like a great idea.
You know, if you have fewer people in government, you
have fewer people using the plastic cutlery. Oh what I know? Amazing,
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It's time for Florida man.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I immediately want to go to the guy who was
trying to steal steak, so I'm not going in order.
I'm sorry, but this immediately caught my eye, as you
can imagine it would anybody's. So this Florida man stole
four Ribbi steaks and hid him under his shirt, hid
them under his shirt out a Walmart. According to deputies,
man just wanted some red meat, that's all. Angel Rivera
(00:37):
sixty six was charged with petty theft of one hundred
dollars or more after he on this Walmart Ribbi theft.
He hid them under his shirt and they got him
on camera. He went and picked out four packs of Ribbis,
placed them on the top part of his shopping cart,
and then he went to a different aisle where I
guess he thought cameras couldn't get him, and he hid
(00:57):
them under his shirt, which he was covered by a jack,
and then he left without pain. Walmart asked that protection
officer confronted and he gave the stakes back. They waited
till deputies arrived. It was. They were recovered but damaged.
One hundred and two dollars for four stakes. One hundred
and two dollars. Man, that's a lot. So he's he
(01:19):
gets in trouble. He gets in trouble. So we also
have this guy. He didn't want to share his UH
passcode on his phone. He did not want to share
his passcode, his password, his phone's like to unlock his
phone with his girlfriend, and he jumped into the ocean. Hmmm,
(01:42):
this sounds this dude doesn't sound trustworthy. Just got to
say he would rather literally jump to where the sharks
and gators live. A Florida man he did not want
his girlfriend or his cops to access his phone and
he jumped into the ocean to avoid giving it up
and flet try to flee arrest after he was being
grilled by police while out on a boat. There's body
(02:02):
cam footage. It shows two female Florida fish and Wildlife
Commissioner Commissioned officers questioning the guy. He identified himself as AJ.
Him and his girlfriend on a boat in the Keys
and UH. He was arguing with his office, the officers,
and his girlfriend over the phone. He got agitated and
jumped into the ocean, and because he goes, what if
I just swim away? And then he led I love
(02:23):
this line. He led the cops on a seven minute
pursuit back to shore, where they promptly arrested him. Uh
he I don't know what they didn't actually say, like
what they just said his boat was breaching code and
they didn't have any like documentation with him. And that's
pretty much all they because I really don't know why
they were stopped or why. But to me, like not
(02:44):
even letting your girl, I'm just saying, just just saying.
It sounds a little sketchy. Sounds a little sketchy. Oh
what else we got?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
This? Oh yeah, this one, This is when I pomp
an o beach woman. Man, this woman had a bad day.
She flipped off the camera a plotic into a school
and then she also hit a bunch of wheelchairs in
a cop car. Deputy say she caused more than twenty
thousand dollars worth of damage. She drove through the closed
gates of a South Florida school where twelve children with
special needs were the brad Horizon School, and she plowed
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through the glass drawer. She ran over a whole bunch
of wheelchairs and then she backed into a sheriff's patrol
car and then did donuts in the parking lot before
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argument that has really erupted on the right about the
place of Christian faith in the RNC, And there's a
lot of concern about the removal of like pro life
language from the platform and the removal of defining turn
to marriages being between a man and a woman. And
I love what Joel Barry said. He's the managing editor
(05:05):
of The Babylon b and I wanted to read this
to you because I think it should. It's the kind
of long for a T shirt, but it's T shirt worthy,
he writes. Quote in his he wrote this on X
he said, quote, Sorry, pro life evangelical leaders, when you
nominate weaklings like Romney McCain and Mike Pence, you lose elections.
When you act like politics is too dirty for Christians
(05:27):
to be involved in, you lose the party. When you
think evangelizing entails inviting your neighbor to megachurch movie night,
you lose the culture. The Republican Party is no longer yours.
But you weren't pushed out, He writes. You gave it up.
You stopped fighting for it. You were too busy building
your stupid megachurch kingdom with its twenty eight satellite locations
and inane self help sermons, while the culture and the
(05:48):
country fell into disrepair. There's still time to turn it around,
but you have a ton of work to do. And
he adds too that you lost the Republican Party long
before Trump. They paid lip service to your cause, but
they never really cared about it, and you were satisfied
to remain uninvolved and punch the ticket for whichever polite,
milk toast family man with good hair told you the
(06:09):
right things while giving up on every single issue. And
he ends with Trump and Trump supporters didn't start this,
they just exposed it. Oh my gosh, that's a sermon.
And joining us right now is dooel Berry with the
Babylon being. God love you for writing that, because I
am so glad that you said this, and I say
this as someone who lives in a town where we
(06:31):
just had a megachurch scandal at the Gateway Church with
one of the pastors over there, and it became this
huge thing. And I'm like, and I always hear all
the time from so many leaders like, don't you know
politics is dirty? Don't get involved in it. You know,
it's not. It's like you're you're not really, it's like
bad for Christians to get involved. I'm so glad that
you said this. Tell me what your thoughts are of
all of this, because I think what you said is
(06:53):
what a lot of people are really feeling.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, I think evangelicals, for the most part, have themsels
elves to blame for this. For the last two decades,
we've been told, you know, if you get involved in politics,
if you're an outspoken conservative, you're worshiping power, you're practicing idolatry.
You're living for the kingdom of man rather than the
Kingdom of God. You know, you hear all this stuff,
and our leaders have been examples of complete impotence. In
(07:17):
spite of our high ideals, the things that we believe.
They haven't done much good for the Republican Party. They
haven't done much good when it comes to preserving our
culture and stopping the march of the left. And so
we shouldn't be surprised. I mean, you know, while while
we were being lectured from the pulpit about not being
too political from our evangelical leaders, people like car Meat Dillon,
(07:40):
we're kicking down doors, you know, fighting for liberty for
our children and our grandchildren. And so of course the
Republican Party, they're going to go with the people who
are actually fighting, who are actually doing something, as opposed
to the people who are kind of sitting off to
the side, just waiting to be catered to like evangelicals
have for so long.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, and you mentioned, you know, while these people were
doing this, people like Dylan were going out and fighting
the good fight. And even during the COVID lockdown, I mean,
our church was one that locked down, and i I
mean we had, like, you know, people within our church
talk about how it's you know, it's it's nice to
wear your face masks because it makes other people feel
comfortable and you know, keep six feet away and yes,
(08:19):
you know, and try to justify you know, at a
time when the church should have been open and they weren't.
And that's when really a lot of people were really
motivated to get out, and that's why we see so
many people and there's so much passion right now. But
you make such a good point, because I do feel
like the church kind of accommodated that, not all, but some.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Well yeah, I mean they COVID was a great shame
for the church. I mean the fact that the church
is shut down for months and months and months when
when people, the sheep Christians needed to be fed, needed fellowship.
It was such a colossal failure. And in a time
when you know, the left is aggressive, the left is
getting their policies, you know, passed, when at a time
(09:01):
when we need people who are bold, people who are
willing to speak the truth in the hostile culture, people
who are willing to fight and win. Evangelicals, especially particularly
our leaders, not necessarily the rank and file, haven't done anything.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
A great example. You know, I live in Ohio.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
We had Issue one, which was one of the most
horrific pieces of legislation. It it it legalized abortion up
to the moment of birth for any reason, no questions asked.
In a largely conservative state like Ohio. I was part
of the pro life movement at the time. Getting pastors
to say anything the pulpit, you know, to to oppose
(09:37):
issue one, Getting churches to organize to you know, to
help with voter drives or or attend protests, anything like that.
It was like pulling teeth because pastors, well, you know
that's politics. You know that we're not supposed to be
involved in that. We might lose our tax exemption. There's
this there's this great fear in evangelical churches about doing
any of that.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Not so with the left.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You go to a Democrat church, you go to you know,
you know, a black church, they are preaching politics every
Sunday from the pulpit. They are getting souls to the polls,
they are organizing, and we're just not doing that. And
so I think the Republican Party they started to look for, Okay,
we need we need people who are willing to fight,
and evangelicals just don't seem to have the fight in
them anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I think that's a huge point. We're talking with our
good friend Joel Berry, and I think you're making a
point that a lot of people are really scared to
make because nobody wants to look like they're being too
harsh and criticizing the church or criticizing their faith, or
criticizing their elders or anything like that. And I get
that totally. But then at the same time, there are
a lot of people asking, well, where's that representation in
the RNC. You know, the language about traditional marriage and
(10:37):
the language you know, on abortion, and that's I mean,
it seems to be like you know, and it is
kind of a pretty moderate, uh you know, write down
the middle position on all of that stuff for this platform.
It's not anything like we've seen prior to Republican RNC platforms.
And it's as you said, it's because you know, evangelicals
really remove themselves from that fight. I don't really see
(10:58):
a lot of that activism as much on the right
that as I used to see when I was younger.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, and well, I think the good news though, is
that I think the younger generation has mostly rejected that
kind of that weak need evangelicalism of you know, the
last twenty years. I think the bold Christianity and outspoken
Christianity is back. It is sad to kind of see
it being taken out of the official Republican platform, but
(11:25):
I think that it's I think it is coming back
in a big way, and I think our voices are
going to be much louder, and I think we're in
the next ten years you're going to see Christians being
a lot more effective to get some of these political wins.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Talk to me about this for a minute, about the
idea of that it's you're being a bad Christian if
you're involved in political outreach, because that, if it's not said,
it's definitely intimated in a lot of churches, and I
have so many, so many of our friends in our church.
It's like it's like the dirty thing, like we you know,
people know that I work in politics. It's like a
dirty thing that we just don't talk about in It's
(11:58):
just very odd. What what are your thoughts on that?
How do we overcome that?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I think part of it is a little bit of
an embarrassment reflex. You know we you know, the nineties
and the eighties we had the moral majority and the
Jerry Folwells, and there's this kind of like, well, we
don't want to be those icky, you know, right wing
Christians and and and so a lot of evangelical leaders
have kind of taken upon this mantle as being like
pr reps for Christianity. We have to be cool, we
(12:24):
have to be kind of, you know, pleasing and winsome,
and we've got to invite people in. We can't be
like those hard nosed Republicans, we can't be like the
Rush Limbaugh types. And so so they kind of just
pushed all that aside, and there has been there's a
lot of kind of like passive aggressive, like shaming of
any outspoken Conservatives, outspoken Christians who are involved in politics.
(12:46):
And you know, as a result, you're seeing you know,
school boards in largely Christian areas are being populated completely
by leftists, you know, city council, local elections. I mean,
we've completely given this up to the left. You know,
the evangelical voters are the most reliable, pro life, pro
family voting voting block. I mean, if churches were to mobilize,
(13:10):
we could make sure that a Republican never lost an
election again. But I think there's there's just been this
this overwhelming fear from our leadership, you know, to look
bad to They don't want to look uncool, they don't
want to look square.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And it's a bit and it's like a business approach too.
I mean, I understand that, you know, you're out there
trying to win souls over, but sometimes maybe and correct
me if I'm wrong on this. Sometimes for me, it
seems like, you know, you have some leaders out there
that are more interested in adding more you know, seats
to the corporatized megachurch than actually going out and winning
the souls.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, they're entrepreneurs now.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
They're trying to get more more butts and seats and
they have one people to their their buildings with you know,
slick programs and cool music and really kind of watered
down sermons that don't really have a lot of death
to them. And they're at the point now where they
have these you know, twenty thousand person churches, a third
of which are are on the left politically, and they
(14:08):
know that if they speak out that they're going to
lose all these people.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
What do we do?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And so I think a lot of it is absolutely
it's money, money motivated, because it's.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Not like people are speaking out on you know, like
just trying to think of you know, like taxes or
something like. I mean, you're talking about life and you're
talking about, you know, the building blocks of a functioning society,
which is a family, that parents, I mean, and a
woman start and you know, all of that stuff. I mean,
these they're not controversial things. I mean, it's very biblical,
but they're very nervous to talk about any of this stuff,
(14:41):
and which is weird because the stereotype from the left
is that they're not, but in reality they are.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, Well, you know, the thing I always tell people
is that Christians are meant to be salt and light.
You know, our presence in the world should make the
world look different. We're not meant to just kind of
sit in our churches in our ivory towers and we
just kind of like listen to our sermons and that's it.
We're supposed to go out and it's supposed to make
a radical difference in our communities and our states and
our countries. And so I hope, I hope that the
(15:09):
tight is turning in Christianity in America. I hope that
we're kind of turning back that fear that we've had
for so long, because we are we're going to lose
our republic, We're going to lose our freedoms if evangelicals
don't start mobilizing.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, that's a good point. One last thing. You add,
you want God back in the party. Me too. That
requires you to emerge from your pristine ivy ivory towers
and take your Christian faith into the ugly, messy world
of political action. You add, feel free to join us,
But I won't hold my breath. You don't sound very
optimistic there.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I'm naturally a pessimist that way. I'm always something good
happens right right right. I hope it does turn out well,
I hope it does.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And and what do you I mean, do you think
that that's gonna what would you like to see? I actually,
this will be my last question to you. What would
you like to see with regard to this issue in
the RNC, Because I understand the people. I understand people's
and I completely agree with you one hundred percent on this.
I understand that concern that individuals have. But like you,
I'm like, well, where were you out here fighting for
(16:08):
this or why were you so quiet on this issue?
And it's always like the same groups forever that have
always held the line on issues of life or a
marriage or things like that. And some of the people
that I see speaking out the loudest about this. Now
I've noticed we're pretty silent during some of these battles before.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, I think really, the only thing that's going to
turn this around in a substantive way is going to
be it's going to take radical spiritual revival from the
ground up. I think all of us need to repent.
Our leaders, we need repentance, We need repentance. We need
to get back to the basics of what scripture says,
preaching the plain truth of scripture, speaking the plain truth
(16:44):
of Scripture to this post truth culture, and living it out.
And I think once we do that, I think you'll
start to see this ground swell of change. It's going
to look weird and mysterious, and we're not going to
be able to necessarily put our finger on it. But
I think it has to start in the churches with
repentance and revival in our hearts and getting back the basis.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This is you. I keep hearing people say, oh, we're
navigating a post Christian world. I don't know if I'm
ready to adopt that line of thinking yet. Post Christiana. Yeah,
I'm not ready to. I'm not ready to accept that.
Joel Berry with the Babylon b God bless you, my friend.
I appreciate you joining me today.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Thank you thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 1 (18:20):
So another jet Ski was abandoned on a Philly street
with the same name written on its side. What so
a lot of questions because there's abandoned jet skis on
the streets of Philly randomly they dumped illegally. One might say,
no one wants your stupid pop up ad and I'm
never going to go to Veil now as a result
of it. Let's see, the second jet Ski was dumped
(18:41):
illegally near in the city's northern section, and they said
that both jet skis because the other one was abandoned
in a different like further south on the same street.
Both jet skis had the name Kirby scribbled across the side.
What Kirby And it was in a towaway zone as
the second jet Ski was there until like last night apparently,
(19:03):
and they finally removed it. But yeah, it has Kirby
on the site. What do you think it is? You
were saying that this looks like on marketing.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, one of those viral marketing things where who knows,
maybe is there something coming out with Kirby the actual
video game Curby or something.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, the Poof thing, Yeah, I don't know, know that
pink poof.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It just seems like it would be a marketing thing
where they're getting stories and it's all mysterious and then boom,
they're going to drop something.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I don't know. Sam's club worker was left bruise after
an angry family attacked her because she would not prepare
two whole pizzas minutes before closing, because that was a
DBAG thing to ask minutes before closing. It was in
an Atlanta suburb Henry County, and the employee was attacked.
She and her coworkers were closing down. A family walked
in two minutes before closing and asked for two pizzas,
(19:46):
two whole pizzas, and they said that When she told
them it was too late to place in order, they
started calling her names. The mother walked behind the counter
to the kitchen and punched her in the face. Geez over,
Oh my gosh, I don't even know. Let's see here,
I'm not doing this night's gross. Uh oh, this is
(20:07):
the prime day orders. So Amazon delivery partner fired gunshots
in South Philly during an altercation. What is Philly with
the jet skis and this, now, what the hell? During
an altercation with a bus aid, a school bus was
full of children there and a delivery partner for Amazon
fired gunshots during an altercation with the school bus aid.
(20:29):
So when they're not running into people and trying to
deny accountability, they're firing shots. And yeah, who knew that
the bus driver wasn't able to make a turn because
of a park Amazon van and the bus aid got
out and asked one of the drivers if they could move,
And then apparently the altercation got underway and the guy
got a gun from his Amazon truck and open fire
on the bus driver. I mean, you know, come on, guys,
(20:53):
deep backs out here, stick with us. You know, Biden's
still in office, right, you guys know this, right, He's
still Yeah, guys, he's doing the He's doing the big stuff.
He's focusing on some very important problems right now, important
problems that are roiling the nation, and that is plastic cutlery.
(21:20):
In a bid to save the world, the Biden administration
is announced a plan to target plastic cutlery across federal departments.
They're taking aim at the climate crisis. It's in all
hands on deck response. So China dumps like actual garbage
(21:47):
and turns into the ocean. Nobody says anything to them.
Chemicals they make their lags pink and toxic. They do
all that, they don't care, And the United States says, well,
I guess we should. You're rid of our plastic culery.
That's going to save the world, I said, by an
administration's approach to this, you have to you have to
(22:09):
drink out of a straw that literally dissolves in your
mouth and in your drink. So China condemped chemicals in
the ocean. I know, by the way, is that not
the worst thing? Ever? When I get my cup and
if there is a paper straw in it, I want
to throw the whole cup at I want to throw it.
(22:31):
It takes everything I have. I want to throw it.
It makes me so it's so And there's dyes on
that damn straw, you notice. And it's always those stripey
stripey straws. That's die, that's die that's going in your
drink because it's a stupid paper straw. I can can't
even make words. It makes me so angry. I have uh,
(22:54):
I have a what is it cornstar straw. I would
buy plastic, but they don't make them in these fun
colors like this that I can get on Amazon. Socists.
I didn't mean to be good to the earth. I
just don't come on.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I just the cool thing about those is they eventually
do dissolve. But I've left one in a drink just
to see how long it would take for it to dissolve,
and after like two or three days, it still was
a straw.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, it's a straw. So I don't know why people
don't do that. It was so easy for me to do,
and they go for those fashioned striped straws. I hate
those stupid things because you know that's like toxic dye
on those dumb things too, And it's not all you're drinking,
you're consuming. It's so dumb anyway. So yeah, that's what
he's doing. He's gonna reduce the sale of single use
plastic products on public lands. Well, what are you supposed
(23:39):
to eat with? But if you if you go to
like a museum or something, you go to their little
sitting cafeteria at a park on public land, you think
they're gonna be going out and buying sod. No, it's
gonna you know what, it's gonna be like, what's that place?
Medieval times? It's gonna be like medieval times. You gotta
go in. They're just gonna give you turkey like you're
gonna gnawed everything with your hands. That's what they're gonna do.
Can I tell you a story? Sorry about that? By
(24:01):
the way, I legit just heard thunder right now? The
hell is going on in Texas? Are your windows down?
Look at us? We're like, can do you need to go?
Roll your windows up? So you've been in medieval times? Right?
That's like the castle where you know, if you're buying
medieval times and you've never gone when there wasn't any
in Missouris. When we moved here to Texas, we had
(24:22):
we went twice. You had to go and I you know,
I'm not I'm not gonna prove I always. My husband
was like, this kind of bougie Dana because I brought
literally plastic cutlery with me. I've seen people do that, Okay.
My husband was like, why are you doing that? Because
we evolved and invented this stuff. That's what That's why
I'm doing it. Look at this. We don't eat with
(24:44):
our feet and hands anymore because we evolved as a species.
That's why I'm bringing it in.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I've improving my chopstick skills.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I brought wet ones and everything. I'm like, I could
sit here and just eat this stuff with my hands,
scooping up some taters or whatever, but I doing it.
You know, I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It clean my hands off on my jeans.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, They're like, yeah, well they basically send someone to
lick your hands off with. They don't do that, but yeah,
it's the sobet So I was just like, nope, I'm
gonna take care of my business because I came prepared.
My husband could not believe. He looked at me and
he was like, I'm watching you open like the equivalent
of a quick mart here at medieval times. It's like, no, no, no,
there's certain things that I don't do. And it's not
(25:24):
because I'm being bougie or anything like that. Like I
love the outdoors and I love rocks, and I mean
it's like I got to eat dirt or something to
like convince people that I love nature. I love nature.
Who but he do? It's great. I love being outdoors,
but you know what, I also don't like pretending to
be homeless. And that's why I don't camp, because we
as humans invented the house, and as as a result,
(25:47):
we stay in them, right, just like we as humans
invented cutlery, and so I will use that. I am
not going to throw away.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Generations of achievements of our ancestors by saying no, I
don't want your house or your cutlery gonna pretend to
be without.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm not doing that. I'm just not gonna do it.
Sorrys first, but then we invented the house. Mm hmm.
It's like saying, let's go back to the flintstone cars.
Let's pretend for a little bit. Nope, that's okay, I'm good,
I'm all right anyway. Biden, Yeah, Well that Biden's he's
(26:31):
gonna solve all the world's problems because he's gonna go
after the plastic forks and we'll fork you. It's not
gonna do anything, not gonna do nothing. I mean, basically,
isn't it gonna just raise costs on people. It's gonna
be like military bases and government workplaces. So instead of
maybe here's the thought, instead of trying to reduce the
(26:54):
use of plastic cutlery. Here's that maybe reduce the size
of the federal government. What that sounds like a great idea.
You know, if you have fewer people in government, you
have fewer people using the plastic cutlery. Oh what I know? Amazing,
(27:15):
isn't it that? Thanks for tuning in to today's edition
of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
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