Absurd Truth: VEEP

Dana recaps the best and worst moments from the Vice Presidential Debate and fact-checks claims from Tim Walz, J.D. Vance and the moderators. Meanwhile, heroic Americans are getting arrested for trying to rescue people with their own helicopters after Hurricane Helene.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Celtech.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's his laugh mission to make bad decisions. It's time
for Florida man.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, So, got a couple of things here. This I've
I I this is an older story. Hold up and
do this one. So a guy's son was gets caught trespassing, right,

(00:36):
Why is it always at a Walmart? I'm not kidding you, Like,
every time I've got like a trespass story, it's always
at Walmart. So Florida man gets arrested because his son
was trespassing at a Walmart and when the dad showed
up Flager County, he attacked the deputies who contacted him
to get his kid. So Flager County Sheriff's office responded

(00:59):
toultiple reports of juveniles causing disturbances and a Walmart. They
were all in our sixteen. They were in bikes to
the store, yelling curson setting off car alarms, and deputies
found the group. Recognized the teens contact with their parents
and one of the parents this explains why the kid
was doing what he was doing. Thirty four year old
Jonah Harrington from Palm Coast arrived in immediately confronted law

(01:19):
enforcement he gets out, runs up to the deputy and
just shoves shoves him. It's all on body cam footage.
And dude, don't you know that he's If you had
to guess, like was he wearing his hat with a
straight bill, and did you have like a goofy shirt on?
And you know, look like he got a d bag
starter kit. The answers, yes, yes he did. Two other
deputies try to detain him, and Harrington punched one officer

(01:40):
resisted the efforts of another deputy to secure in handcuffs,
so then he tried to flee. He was apprehended after
a struggle, and the sheriff said, the apple doesn't fall
from the tree. You know, we asked these parents to
come pick up their kids because they were causing trouble,
but this parent chose to attack our deputies instead. So
now you see, right, doesn't He's right? It does not
fall far from the tree. Can you imagine, God, help

(02:01):
my child. If the police called me and they were like, ma'am,
you have to come get your child, I would turn
into Granny Boots. Granny Boots would get real quiet and
she'd point to a willow tree that she had her friend.
You know, we killed this tree. She had twenty three grandkids.
We killed the stam tree. We had to go cut
a branch off it with a pair of utility scissors.
She would strip the leaves off with her hand and

(02:23):
fold it and whoop us with it. I never got
a whooping because I was an angel and I was yep,
and I was Granny Boots's favorite. So but all my
other cousins got beat. But that's like the scariest thing ever.
I would show up with like a whole thatch of
them things, be like, you tell me where my kid is, Officer,
I will handle this situation. I'm just saying, Golly runs

(02:45):
up and he's on and you know, all these police,
it's like you can see their body camp, their body cameras.
Why would you do that? This debate last night, good
and bad. The worst moment was got to give that.
Got to give that ribbon to Tim Walls, who just
started falling all over himself when he was asked, well,

(03:07):
why did you lie about China? I've never heard anyone
take so long to say that they didn't lie. Listen
to this governor.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Just to follow up on that, The question was, can
you explain the notancy. All I said on this was
is I got there that summer and misspoke on this,
So I will just that's what I've said. So I
was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest
went in and from that I learned a lot of

(03:35):
what needed to be in governance.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Hmm. I mean you could have just said that you lied.
I mean they asked him, and he's like, well, it
was the best of times, it was the worst. Just
do just say that you lied. Well, I misspoke, you lied,
And then you know, he told on himself because he
was like, you know, and I how did he put it?
I quoted it at the time he had said at
one point he was like, yeah, you know, I to

(04:01):
you know, sometimes get into I slip into the rhetoric.
Well you just admitted that you lied. Then at that point,
I mean, that's what the world is your damage, dude,
you just admitted that you lied. That's all I gotta do,
all I gotta say. But that was a really that
was awkward. That was a very awkward moment for him,
And there were a lot of very awkward moments. Yeah,

(04:23):
he's he didn't, he doesn't. He didn't have a lot
of room last night except to play that yok grmo
knuckle hoad stick. But then he was like, well, I
get caught up in the rhetoric. Okay, you just just
you lied. You lied, And then he tried to side scripture, which,
as you know, if you're familiar with the Merchant of Venice,
even the devil can quote scripture. But there you go.

(04:43):
He's I I don't think that he he didn't get angry,
and I was actually kind of anticipating for I was
waiting for him to do so because from what I know,
he's got a short temper and he just seems like
a jackwagon. He's one of those dudes, right, he just
seems like that. But he didn't take debate, and he
was very disciplined in that regard so much jd Vance

(05:03):
and jd Vance state on point now, I'm going to
say something that's unpopular. His answer on guns was horrible, Yes,
Walts was Walts's answer on guns was bad. But I
wasn't impressed with Jade Vance as either. I don't think
he's a gun control guy. He's not a gun guy though,
that's evident. And when I say that he's not a
gun guy, I mean, he's not a hunter. He probably
doesn't shoot regularly. I don't demand that you be a

(05:26):
hunter or that you go out and shoot regularly in
order for me to like you as a candidate. But
I do demand that you agree with me on these
issues relating to our enumerated rights, and I do agree.
I do demand that you don't use the language of
the left. So here's the question that was asked, and
we'll get into all the other stuff, but this is

(05:46):
where I'm going to be. I'm gonna call balls and
strikes on this stuff. And this was the first time
VANCE was really tested like this, I think, on this issue.
So this was was It was like eleventy four million,
eighty three audio SoundBite, the one where where is it?
Nora is asking the question Nora O'Donnell and first off

(06:10):
the questions wrong audio sound bite nineteen go ahead and
kick this one. Nineteen thousand, million, eleveny forty thousand. That one.
Now to America's gun violence epidemic.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
The leading cause of death for children and teens in
America is by firearms.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay, that's wrong, and right out of the gate when
that question came in, that should have immediately been established
and it wasn't. Why is that wrong? Here's why that
here's why that question is a presupposition based on fraudulent
not even evidence, just based on lies. First off, it
is not the leading cause of death. The only reason,
the only way that they can make it the leading

(06:48):
cause of death is and this is what the CDC did.
They redefined the age of a quote unquote child to
go all the way up till twenty, So eighteen to
twenty years are now factored into that average. When you
remove that age demographic, the eighteen to twenty year olds,
guess what that falls down? Behind car accidents and drownings. Now,

(07:12):
let's go back to that subset. I've written about this,
It's in one of my books. There's a lot of
evidence on this, so I'm not making anything up that's
not publicly available on the internet. According to the CDC
and the DOJ and the FBI's own criminal statistics, this subset,
this age subset, the eighteen to twenty year old. Why
does it inflate that number so much? Because it's gang

(07:34):
and drug violence and it completely correlates when you look
at the numbers given by the CDC for eighteen and
younger and then you add in the FBI Criminal Statistics FI,
the uniform crime reports. When you add in the publicly
available crime data it tracks. The CDC inflates that number

(07:58):
by including eighteen to twenty year old and defining them
as children. That is why they then can say, oh, well,
look it's the leading cause of death for children because
they redefined it. Again, when you remove that subset, then
eighteen and under it falls behind the child. Uh, the
leading cause of death falls behind automobiles and drownings. Now

(08:22):
suicides are also factored in there. That is a mental
health issue. In fact, suicides comprise one third of that
statistic for that subset. Now that's a whole other conversation.
But the reason it is inflated is to fear monger
and scare people into thinking that their children could be statistics.
When these incidents, although one is too many, are incredibly

(08:44):
rare and they're always preventable. But we don't talk about
the preventable aspects of it, which is one of the
things that Vance did touch on. What I didn't like
that Vance did, and I was not a fan of
his language on this is he borrowed the language of
the left. He used the language the left. In his
response on firearms, he said the phrase gun violence epidemic,

(09:08):
and he and Walsh were very nice to each other
on this, and he also used the phrase illegal guns.
Here's why I have a major problem with this. Again.
I don't demand that you be as hardcore about two
A as I am for my support, but you do
need to believe that my right, my enumerated right, should
not be infringed upon language like gun violence epidemic, language

(09:29):
like illegal guns, that those are words of the left.
You cannot win a debate on this issue when you
are already validating your opponent's points because you're incorporating their
rhetoric into your argument. This is rhetoric one oh one.

(09:50):
For instance, there's no such thing as quote unquote illegal guns.
A gun is in ananimate object. There is criminal possession,
but there isn't an illegal gun. By saying the phrase
illegal gun instead of criminal possession, you are ascribing a
moral esthetic to an inanimate object, which is exactly what

(10:12):
gun controllers want to do, because that continues to validate
the anti gun language, which dictates that inanimate objects somehow
possess the ability to influence the carrier. Upset object towards
criminal behavior. A gun itself is not illegal, it cannot
be so. The legality or illegality is determined by the

(10:37):
wilful way in which a person chooses to use or
acquire it per law. And there's no gun violence epidemic.
There is, And this is where Vance left a ton
of meat on the bum. I don't know how you
don't get into Tim Waltz's behavior during Minnesota, the riots.

(10:59):
Vance left that meat on the bone. There is and
this is where he could have done it. There's in
a gun violence epidemic. There is an epidemic of lawlessness
that is brought on by the sort of restorative justice
that's supported by Tim Walls and Kamala Harris. Look at
the riots in Minnesota. How many of those people were
not even arrested, not even detained. Kamala Harris was promoting

(11:23):
their bail fund, the bail fund of people who burned
down entire communities, historically black communities. I might add, you
know the communities that Gwynn Wall says she enjoyed smelling
burning and that's why she left her windows open. He
left a lot of meat on the bone there, and
that was very disappointing. I expect wolves to be anti gun,

(11:43):
but I don't expect my Republican candidate to validate their
language by speaking recklessly on it. Because we are in
where I mean, it's a match where you cannot give
any kind of ground. And words do matter, folks, because
when it comes to this sort of thing, when it
comes to gun law, the words you use invoke different
aspects of the law and with it different penalties and consequences,

(12:07):
and with that, different abridgments of your rights. So you're
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Speaker 2 (13:24):
And now all of the news you would probably miss,
it's time for Dana's quick five.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
So I thought this was funny because they are saying
now that gen X is the most stressed generational live,
but they're also the best at handling it. And we're
also called the coolest generation. Just gotta say gen X
people who are born between sixty five and seventy nine.
I'm there. I am there, so stop gatekeeping. I barely
got in, but I'm there. Stop it. It's official. Night

(13:52):
just cited this a very official news article.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Kine.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's America's goofy middle children sandwich between the boomers and
millennial and gen X is all individualistic nonconformists. I mean,
you know, we did punk zines and tech startups, so
everybody can step off. It's a loof cool, right, But
they're also really self We're the latch key kids. According
to one marketing marketing study, gen Z or gen X
went through its all important formative years, is one of

(14:17):
the least parented, least nurtured generations in US history. It
was the first generation that experienced both parents working outside
the home, so we had to be self sufficient for survival.
That's why we can handle stress, and in gen X fashion,
we don't like to let people see that we are stressed.
That's a huge study and they're totally correct. This is weird.

(14:37):
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Kong lost down there. And anyway, it's the Nasca Plate

(15:01):
and the East Pacific Rise. So if that's you know,
your jam, it's kind of interesting. Let's see. Uh oh,
I don't care about this chick who left the Washington Post.
She's literally nobody. Green Day was banned from Las Vegas
radio stations because Billy Joe Armstrong is a d bag.
He called the city a poohole. He didn't say it
like that, but he did, and he got mad, and
I just I just don't know why. I feel like

(15:23):
he's got an arrested development because he's like seventy thousand
years old and he dresses like a twenty year old
in two thousand and three, and it's just the height
of cringe. It's the height of cringe. I want to
switch gears here, and I want to touch on this
very interesting thing that I've been seeing with regard to

(15:45):
the the helicopters and the way that they have been
like the privately owned Choppers and how they've been responding
to a lot of this. There was a very interesting
piece that I was reading about the US Helicopter Commune.
I'd love that we have a helicopter community. God bless America.

(16:07):
I've never I've flown in a chopper. I've never flown
a chopper per se. Kind of now I'm interested in it.
But it talks about like, for instance, in North Carolina,
they have all of these privately owned choppers that are
out there doing these rescue efforts and it's amazing to
see some of this stuff. And they've i mean the

(16:28):
photos and the video air their airlifting supplies there. It's
like the Cajun Navy, but like in the air. Cajun Air, right,
Cajun Air. That's an air wouldn't you fly that airline?
I would totally fly that airline.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Instead of peanuts, they give out gumbo or something.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Dude, here's your cup of gumbo. Now we ain't giving
you no peanuts up in here. You get a cup
of gumba. Oh my gosh. Cajun Navy, come on, you
got y'all gotta make that happen. Cajun Air. I would
demand to fly Cajun Air everywhere. Huh, there's your slogan
Cajun Air air there. It is right there. So they
have been going in and around trying to help all

(17:05):
these people. And I know that there's also this people
were asking about Fort Bragg because there's a lot of
helicopters at Fort Bragg, and the people were asking, well,
why are they not getting why are they not getting involved?
Where are they not getting you know, power and get
out there and get supplies in because a lot of

(17:26):
the people have been saying, well, a government aid is
nowhere to be found. And they've got video of all
of these helicopters that are privately owned volunteering their time
and their fuel, and they're running supplies because the roads
are impassable. They're running supplies, they're rescuing people, they're dropping
stuff up on the hills. I mean, it's just wild.
And there was one guy who told who was told

(17:47):
by the fire chief that if he went back, and
he's a guy who owns a chopper, if he went back,
they would arrest him. He had to leave this dude
on the mountain. Why, Okay, I'm really confused about this.
Why are people why are some of these It seems
like some of these private choppers, why are some of
them being deterred from doing this? Is there? I mean,

(18:09):
you're in a it's a natural disaster, it's an emergency zone,
and people have been You can see how people have
been following like flight tracker and all this other stuff,
and they can see how many government assets like helicopters.
Government helicopters are operating with rescues and they're able to
filter out civilian and passenger aircraft. And people are wondering

(18:32):
it seems like there's more privately owned than there is
a government owned. Here's an interview with this guy who
was saying that he was told he basically had to
stop making these rescue efforts and dropping supplies. Listen to this,
this is wild.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Why started helping with coordination? He gave me radio frequencies
to coordinate with them on set up a landing area
for me to come back with the victim, and in
the middle of the whole conversation and then blocking the
road off, I was greeted by the at that time
I didn't know, but Lake Lure fire chief or assistant

(19:10):
chief maybe, and he shut down the whole operation. So
at that point there was I felt like the conversation
wasn't going any further, and again he asked me to leave,
and I said, hey, I have no problem getting out
of your area. If that's what you want us to do,
we'll leave no issue. At that point, I asked him,
you know what was the reason I had to leave
them there? And he said, again, you're interfering with my operation.

(19:32):
I just need you to get out of the area.
I said, sir, I don't know where you were trained at,
but I know how my training is and I'm not
going to leave personnel behind. I'm going back to get
my co pilot. He said, if you turn around and
go back up the mountain, you're going to be arrested.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I said, well, so I'll say this, I get it.
If you know you are, you know, the firefight er EMT,
and you've got a rescue plan and resources in place,
and you don't want anyone interfering with that. But that's
the question, isn't it, Because the assertion is that there
wasn't a plan nor were there resources in place, Right,

(20:06):
that's the whole thing, right. So, and this is just one,
apparently one example, because emergency responders are so overstretched in
these areas. It's insane, and I think that you would

(20:27):
take that into account and would welcome or try to
incorporate as a part of your plan people who are
able to help out, who have the ability to get
to these areas that are impassable due to landslides and
busted up roads and all this stuff. And I get that,

(20:47):
you know, you want to secure an area and you're
trying to do everything, but again, a lot of these
people are a lot of these first responders are totally overstretched.
I understand you don't want every time tacking Harry coming
up and get involved in all that, but people with
shoppers because apparently there are not enough, And I think

(21:07):
it's you know, important, especially if part of your plan
is making sure that you're rescuing people off the mountain
and you don't have the fully available resources to do so.
Why would you have people wait up on the mountains
being stranded for days when you could have like privately
owned choppers people and assist those people and organize them
and use their resources, use them as assets, and have

(21:28):
them rescue people so that you're not stretched so thin.
I feel like there's a better way to do this,
And the crazy thing is is that if we had
a better I think I think some of these if
we had a better response in some of these areas,
I think that this conversation would be it would be unnecessary.
But that's I mean the devastation. I mean, I oh

(21:49):
my gosh, they still don't even really have estimates as
to how much and what all is going to be required.
I mean, it's just so they're still just trying to
ascertain the level of damage and save people. And I
also think that the other issue with this is there's

(22:09):
not Do you feel like there's not enough attention on
this from national press? Like they talked about it and
now I just feel like it's sort of fallen by
the wayside. Am I being too sensitive with that?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, you're not. I believe that this media has been
consistently running cover for the left, and I think this
is another example.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
But do you think that they're not reporting on this
as much because it's Southeastern states that are mostly affected? Again,
I don't want to sound like I'm trying to cause
a problem unnecessarily, but I do have to wonder why
the coverage is so completely lopsided.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, I remember and I put this story in your
prep last night that back in Hurricane Katrina, they couldn't
immediately get to the area right, and so when there
was a lag in FEMA help and all of that,
people were going all over the media and saying how
George Bush hated black people and all of this stuff
and made it a race issue in the whole nine.

(23:09):
So if those rules applied to what we do today
in how we respond in the media on this, then yes,
it would look like based on the lack of FEMA
and obviously the lack of interest that both Kamala and
Joe Biden had in this whole tragedy, apparently they hate
white people and they hate people that vote mostly for Trump.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I mean, apparently. Helene is already one of the deadliest
costless storms to hit the United States. It dumped forty trillions,
forty trillion gallons of rain on the Southeastern States. Forty trillions,
forty trillion gallons. That's enough to fill Dallas Cowboys Stadium
fifty one thousand times or Lake Tahoe just once. That's

(23:54):
how much. Now. The reason I bring this up is
because Steve made a good point. Hurricane Cenia got so
much coverage and not that it didn't you know, deserve
to get a lot of coverage, but you have Katrina, Harvey,
Ian Andrew, and Sandy was listed at number four, but
Helene is right now and it's top ten. It is

(24:17):
a it's a it's a bad hurricane. But and the
devastation seems like it's in multiple states and not just
really concentrated on a couple. But there does seem to
be like there's a lop sided coverage because the media
is mostly centralized in the Northeast, and anything that happens
to the media just takes over, you know, the whole day.

(24:37):
My gosh, you get a snowstorm and it's just you know,
wall to wall coverage, and you get major flooding like
in Tennessee and there's like barely a blit. And now
the recovery efforts for Hurricane Helene are just starting to
slip past, and they're rolling off there. What they call
above the folds. When you get your newspaper and it's
folded in half, all the most important stuff is above
the fold, so that you before you even fold it

(24:59):
unfolded to be the full broadsheet half broadsheet, then all
the most important stuff was there, so above the fold
is what they refer to. That's like the order of importance.
It's already fallen below the fold. Now it's going on
page one A, two A, so this is it's I
don't know, I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, but

(25:21):
it feels like, you know, considering some of the devastation,
like in North Carolina they got hit so bad and
the landslides are horrific. I'm I'm on and they're still
trying to find people. There's still tons of people unaccounted.
One hundred and fifty nine fatalities so far with ABC
had that twenty hours ago. It's probably more now. Florida

(25:42):
peanut farmers say this is worse than Adalia. They say
that they're dealing with devastating losses with the peanut crop.
So it's and they think that that Helene is going
to join the five most damaging it's technically in the
top ten, but it's being estimated that's going to join
the five most damaging her hands of all time.

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