Trump vs. Amazon, Canada Goes Liberal, Ron DeSantis & Chip Roy Join Us

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rewarded this morning that Amazon will soon display a little
number next to the price of each product that shows
how much the Trump tariffs are adding to the cost
of each product. So isn't that a perfect crystal clear
demonstration that it's the American consumer and not China who
is going to have to pay for these policies.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I will take this since I just got off the
phone with the President about Amazon's announcement. This is a
hostile and political act by Amazon.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Why did Amazon do this when the.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Biden administration height inflation to the highest level in forty years.
And I would also add that it's not a surprise because,
as Reuters recently wrote, Amazon has partnered with a Chinese
propaganda arm. So this is another reason why Americans should
buy American. It's another reason why we are on shoring
critical supply chains here at home to shore up our

(00:55):
own critical supply chain and boost our own manufacturing here.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
So this is one of the big fights this morning,
while there's several. Actually we're going to highlight those because
we've got the budget battle, which looks like it's going
to get stalled out in the Senate, and that's where
they're hoping to well they're fighting over tax cuts in
the House, so we're not even there yet. I'll we'll
explain that coming up. But the Senate is where it's

(01:22):
that's probably going to get hung up. I mean, come on,
it's the Senate, guys. You guys know all this. It's
it's it's the Senate is just full of cantangerous old
bush league rhinos. I don't want to sound mean, but
you know, come I mean Kanes like line, You're not wrong.
I know I'm not wrong. I'm a thousand percent correct.
That's exactly what it is. So I this because of

(01:46):
the whole with with with the tariffs and on top
of inflation and everything. The biggest argument that I've heard
coming from people has been, well, why didn't they why
didn't they do this Amazon? Meaning why didn't Amazon do
this when we had Biden era inflation? And I think
that's a fair point. But I also think it's silly

(02:08):
to expect them to not tell people what they're going
to be paying. And I you know, I don't know
if it's so much as a way to like shame
the administration. I don't think that that's what it is.
And we can we can, we can discuss it, But
I mean, why can't we also discuss the vast amount
of Chinese made stuff that's on Amazon and how like

(02:32):
there's so many there's so much fake stuff on Amazon,
and there's so much imitation and everything else. So welcome
to the show, Dana lash with you. We are at
the top of this first hour here as we get started.
But that's the big thing is the Amazon fight.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
As you know, they basically just declared war on Amazon,
the administration versus Amazon. This was right after Jeff Bezos
was up was right out there and they were all
hanging out and just saying so they were all up
there hanging out. He was at the White House. He
also I think how much did he donate to the

(03:09):
UH inauguration, sorry, the inaugural festivities? Wasn't it like a
million dollars? I think Bezos donated like a million dollars
to all the inaugural stuff and yeah, yeah, yeah, like
him and Facebook and all this, they had all donated,
you know, about a million dollars to make that happen.

(03:30):
And the I think the expectation from some was that
they were all going to be best friends, which is
never gonna happen. I mean, you know, he's a he's
a business person. But I will say one of the
also arguments that I've seen is, ooh, well, Jeff Bezos,
their profit margins continued to increase and he's having a
five hundred million dollar wedding. Can we just full stop,

(03:50):
full stop for a second, everybody, just everybody chill tf
out for a minute and just listen. We can make
the argument about China and the tariffs and all of
this other stuff and businesses that facilitate this or facilitate well,

(04:11):
it's a business facilitators that facilitate it, like Amazon. We
can do that without making communist arguments the moment, the
moment we start criticizing a capitalist system, and that's what
it is. Whether you like it or not, it's a system.
It is a system. And then the value of that system,

(04:32):
whether it's being used for good or bad, it's dependent
upon the people who are using the system. Do not
be baited into these low IQ COMMI arguments, Dear sweet
Heaven above, do not. So it is. And I've had
some really good friends of mine make this argument this morning.
And I was actually literally texting with someone as I

(04:52):
was coming on air, like, what is your damage? Who
hurt you? Because they were like, well, you know he's
going to be you know, how expensive is wedding to be?
And I'm like, yeah, I know. And do I sit
here and begrudge you for going out and buying Gucci loafers?
My friend wears Gucci loafers. My friend also works on television.
I'm like, do I sit here and begrudge you wearing
Gucci loafers? Am I sitting here like no? Because that's

(05:13):
what you earned, right. If someone else wants to go
and get a horse, if someone wants to buy a
new tractor, someone wants to get a new toolkit, if
someone wants to get you know, land, I don't care.
You do what you do with the fruits of your labor,
and we can exempt that from this argument about some
of the things that Amazon has. Now. Look, I'm gonna

(05:35):
be the first one to be like, there's certain things
I just don't order on Amazon. Now, certain things they do.
You know, there's like certain you know, day to day
things that I will get on Amazon. But there's a
lot of stuff that I don't because you cannot verify
the origin. And I think that that needs to be verified,
you know, front and center. But that's a business decision
that they're going to have to make. I don't need
the government to come in and be like, oh, well,
let's see, we're gonna get into how Amazon lists things.

(05:58):
I just you know, I I don't know. I think
that that's a bad argument. But we don't need to
be baited into this comedy stuff. We're going to talk
more about this throughout the program because this is just
one of the topics that's up. We also have the
Canadian election. Can we just say, for one moment, they
had a chance for a great, a great Conservative candidate

(06:23):
in Canada, and they decided to re elect the circus
freak Mark Kearney. I know they decided to elect him,
re elect him instead of pure polar bear. I don't
think that polar air is. I don't think that there
his career is done. I think he's got a long

(06:46):
road ahead of him because he's a great candidate. He's
a great candidate, he's quick. Everybody was loving this guy
five seconds ago. And can I say, I'm going to
say two things that are probably gonna make some people
mad and some people not mad. Number One, you don't
have to go to deaf con one just because somebody
disagrees with potus. It is okay to not agree with

(07:08):
every syllable that comes out of somebody's mouth, because you're
a freak if you do. I'm sorry, but you are.
I don't even agree with my husband all the time,
dear heavens, I don't even agree with him all the time,
Cana and I don't even I don't even agree with
my damn dog all the time. Okay, my own wick
is like one of the sweetest, most obedient things ever. Right,
So stop. I see people freaking out at other people

(07:30):
because they're making genuinely good points, like, for instance, going
into the Canadian election, I think the Conservatives are actually
trending really well, and then the and I understand, I'm
not arguing tariffs. I'm just saying, when the tariffs happened,
then the Liberals in Canada are progressives. I hateing the liberals.

(07:52):
The Liberals were able to finagle that into this narrative
that they were standing against Trump in the United States,
and that actually did impact a little bit in the polls. Now,
how much all of that is remains to be seen.
They're doing the they always do the post mortem on
these losses. But I think that that did play into it.
I think to some of the other some of the

(08:13):
rhetoric also, you know, the liberals were able to use that.
Now you could say, well, if Canadians are going to
be so dumb that they're going to elect somebody like that,
look a person, smart people are sheep Tommy Lee Jones
was right, man, and then I'm black. That was one
of the smartest things I've ever heard in any film.
And it's right and you know it. So there's a

(08:34):
lot into that, and I think that I I think
that Carnie is going to have a very unsuccessful term
and unfortunately Canadians are going to get hit the hardest
with us. We're going to talk more about this as well,
because they're they're going to get hit the hardest with us.
And I you know, it's just one of those things.
There's a lot that it was a perfect storm. He

(08:55):
was doing really well. In fact, I was looking at
some of the polling last night. I mean before this, uh,
I mean pure Polavera had every appearance of being able
to beat Mark Karney. He had every Polivera had every
every appearance of going after uh, Carney, because Trudeau ruined it.

(09:15):
I mean, think about this, how do you go from
Trudeau to Trudeau junior? You know, how do you how
do you go to that? And that's that's what ended
up happening. So it's I think there's a lot that
plays into it. I do think the tariffs had I'm
not saying that the uh because I know we have
drive buys who read with pictures and so I have
to baby talk them. So for you smart people out there,

(09:38):
bear with me for a moment. Uh, Yes, they're the
the the tariffs did impact their decision, regardless of whether
or not it had to be done, which I think it.
You know, I think you have to take a monumental
uh step in order to enact action and effect change.
You have to. I think the messaging on it could
have been handled a hell of a lot better, if

(09:58):
I'm being honest. That being said, you know, it's a
monumental change and you got to take some risks, and
that's what's happening right now. But I do think that
you don't have to lose your allies in that process,
and I think that there maybe could have been a
little because you want your allies to have healthy leadership too.
You don't want people, I mean, for kind out lived

(10:19):
would you want Do you want Canada to fall into
an abyss of communism and sharia? No, you don't, because
that's right on our border and we have to have
strong allies. That also feeds into our NetSec which is
opposite actually nation building. We're very hands off. You're just
encouraging and you try not to create an optical tornado,
especially on the eve of an election. So all of

(10:39):
this stuff plays into it, which we're going to break
down now. In addition to all of this, I know,
it's like then we have these rolling blackouts that have
been happening in Europe, in Spain and Portugal. Of course
they are big fans of that renewable energy, although I
will say Spain's leadership was trying to argue in its
press both sides. They were trying to say, well, yes,

(11:02):
we're very big, we're like leaders in Europe for green energy,
but also we dis we really don't have enough evidence
that this actually contributed to that. You don't can you imagine,
I mean, they didn't even know when the power was
going to come back on. They said it cost something
like half a trillion dollars. All the hundreds of billions
of dollars. This costs wild, absolutely wild. I mean they

(11:26):
I don't know they had they declared a state of emergency,
they had panic buying. Spain of Portugal hardest hit, gridlock everywhere.
Flight's canceled and the chaos is still ongoing, especially with
the flights because you know how that is. And the
store shelves looked like they were going out and getting
French toast supplies ahead of a hurricane. But that renewable

(11:47):
energy is that's one of the big people are pointing
a lot of fingers at this. It's very similar to
kind of Texas with its solar and wind right because
they've they've moved a lot to quote unquote renewable energy.
Parts of France, Belgium and the Netherlands also suffered, and
Dora also suffered outages. Red Electrica is Spain's electricity network provider.

(12:12):
They've been very gradually restoring power to the country into
Portugal and they said it was a very The explanation
was quote very strong oscillation in the electric network that
caused their power system to disconnect from the European system. Kane,
you're an audio technical dude that sounds like I don't know,
that sounds like word salad a kamala righte thos, I'm curious.

(12:34):
I'm just wondering. Yeah, So we're gonna come back to this.
We've got a lot of stuff to hit. I haven't
even gotten to the tip of it because, oh my gosh,
we've got, of course, the stuff happening in Congress. We
have LNG talks. Potus says also that they've secured deals
no details yet, that they have a bunch of deals
with countries or trade deals already that they are looking

(12:55):
to implement. Maybe we're going to get some more details
about that coming up. So we're gonna have all the
latest on that also on deck today. Coming up, we
got Florida Governor Ron Desantisho is going to be joining
us in our second hour and in our third hour
Congressman from Texas Chip Roy. Why yes, the two biggest
red states that are fighting rhinos. Yes, yes, of course,
and we'll continue with our red state rhino hunting. So

(13:17):
a very packed show today, and we're going to dive
deep into some of this grain energy stuff as it
as it relates to Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, et cetera. And
we're also going to look at some of this Amazon
and the budget battle in Congress, so we have a
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Speaker 2 (18:38):
The first answer that comes to mind, Nebra is definitely
tax cuts. The President is working closely with Congress as
we speak. He met with leadership from both chambers. The
administration met with leadership from both chambers yesterday to talk
about how we can quickly pass the largest tax cuts
in American history. And the President promised on the campaign
trail he wanted no tax on tips, no tax on

(18:59):
social Security, are hard working seniors, no tax on overtime pay.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Intends to keep those promises.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
How about that he needs Congress has helped to do
so that's why he's working.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
My only grid. How about like just no taxes, have
a graduated consumption tax. Because if you're doing my only
gripe with the no tax on tips is like you're
your shirting the bus boys and the line cooks and
all that stuff, you know, because that's not how you know,
not how they roll. So I get it. I mean
it's a it's a tactic, but we need to go

(19:29):
for it. But I love hearing them say that. I
want more of this. Oh my gosh, Yes, big beautiful,
fatty fat tax cuts. Oh my gosh, all they long.
That's how we get that. That's how you made best friends, Kane.
That's how you get that best friend gold card. Right there.
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(19:49):
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a million deaths right now. I'm like, I can't even
can't breathe. I don't know. I didn't mean to quote
George Floyd. Okay, the uh what? So the big beautiful

(20:11):
tax cuts. Need those in my life. We need more
of them. And as long as the administration continues messaging this,
because even if they talk about it, the American people
will file that away like, oh I can expect this,
Oh we got taxers. I can expect some tax cuts.
I can Okay, I can deal with this. And that
makes it a heck of a lot easier. And it
also is the shot in the arm that we need,

(20:33):
you know, it's the shot in the arm that these
long suffering voters need. And continue cutting taxes, reduce spending.
That's how you get good times. And we like good times, right,
you want to have. I mean, I think we all
deserve a little bit of a break. You know what
I'm saying, don't we all? We all deserve a little
bit of a break here. Now the Amazon thing, I

(20:56):
agree with my friend Carol Roth, who you all know,
she's on the show, made a really good point if
Amazon should show tariff costs because see the the White
House went after them because they're showing the costs of
tariffs along with their products. Amazon made this, uh, they
made this statement about this, and it's I get it.
I don't necessarily think that it is. I don't think

(21:20):
it was done maliciously. I do think that. I mean,
it's a great point to ask, well why didn't why
wasn't the inflation as well? Why wasn't inflation shown as well?
But look, if Amazon, and as Carol said, gonna if
they're gonna take a transparency or a victory lap on transparency,
they need to clean up their business, get rid of

(21:41):
your knockoffs, get rid of the AI slot books, she said,
and the free writing content and all the other garbage
on their site. Otherwise it's it's just it's just a stunt.
It is just a stunt. If they don't do that,
it's a stunt. I don't buy it, and then I
will believe that it's just a way that, you know,

(22:02):
a tactic for them to try to screw the admin.
I think it's fine to say, you know that if
you go on Amazon, you can find like a whole
made in Italy section. Where's the maiden US section? They
have like a whole literally they have like the little
Italian flag colors that they've got on Amazon, and you
can go to it and click on it and it
shows you all these made in Italy products. Right. Why

(22:24):
there isn't one for the United States? Have you ever
noticed that, Kane, you do stuff on Amazon, there's not
one like that for the US. That would be it
would be a great first step.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
You'd be lucky to run across one. And it may
say it in that product description, but it's I don't
see a category.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
They do show you when you click on the individual
products like if you go down and you look for
so okay, full disclosure, you guys know that. Like, I'm
in brown today. This is a Easter pastel for me.
So everything I have is black. And I am a
psycho about purchase. If I find something I like, how

(23:01):
I purchase it. I don't like I like watching fashion stuff,
but I don't like doing it. I don't like figuring
out outfits and what to wear for TV. That's why
I'm like, oh, you guys, get black because it's easy
and I like it. So there's this one, guys, I'm sorry,
hold on, hold on a second. There's a there's this
one uh black tanks out that I found on Amazon.

(23:25):
Loved it and it was made in Taiwan. Even better,
not made in China. I about ten of these things.
They're like seven ninety nine and I just wear because
when they I because they do fade and the material
makes it a little bit harder to die in a
top loader because it's what you can do to refresh
your blacks and uh, and it clearly states when you

(23:45):
look down, when you scroll down on this particular garment
and you look down and it says you know where's
it made? And the fabric type, and how do you
wash it and all that. It'll tell you where it's made,
but you got to scroll down. It's not it's not
exactly hidden. It's just not right up there in your face.
And then but even then, the maide in America. You

(24:07):
have to have assembled in America, made in America. And
I think that there are some of the shops that
on Amazon that skirt the compliancy on that. So if
you can get inputs from other countries and they can
assemble it in the United States, but it's not necessarily
all from the United States, you know what I mean.
So I think that they need a lot more transparency

(24:30):
and they need to clean some of the stuff up.
There's some garbage out there. I mean, I would say
over half of what's on Amazon is still garbage. They
got a lot. I feel like, yes, they're a super
successful business, but because they don't weed out the trash,
it makes them I don't know how to say it, Kane,

(24:50):
it makes it less mid high end even right, I
don't know how to put it. They need there's a
lot they need to clean up a lot of it.
But a lot of those companies are China Chinese and
they make a lot of money. Someone said that if
they sell an item in their Amazon shop and it's
like a ten dollars item in fees, seven dollars of
like every ten goes to Amazon for fees, so they

(25:12):
actually lose money on stuff, and a lot of people
just end up, you know, closing shop. If you really
want to buy made in the USA stuff and you
like small business stuff, I'm telling you Edsy's the way
to go. Edsy's fantastic. Yeah, you got all kinds of
cool stuff on there, all homemade stuff you can find
exactly you can literally nail it down to a region.
It's great, it's really nice. Amazon's a heck of a

(25:35):
lot harder. And then some stuff it'll stay made in
the USA, But then that's a storefront that might be
you know, dumbaeield in the United States, but it's like
based elsewhere right overseas, so it's not I know, it's
not exactly forthright. So there's a lot of stuff there.
But I I I don't want to see a war
on Amazon. I want to see Amazon clean up its act.
And I think that these people respond more to positive

(25:56):
affirmation than negative. I mean to be Frank, but I
love the talk on tax cuts because we need more
of this. We're gonna, I mean, we have to, we
have to have this.

Speaker 8 (26:06):
Now.

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I've heard if you get my email prep and there's
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(26:31):
two hundred trade deals, but they have yet to name
which nations are involved, and China, of course, is exempted
from this ninety day pause on reciprocal tariffs although they
have the one hundred and forty five on them. He
says he's made He told Time magazine on Friday that quote,

(26:51):
I've made two hundred deals, one hundred percent. He didn't
specify the terms of the countries, but he said over
the next three to four weeks, once deliberation are finished,
he's going to announce these deals. Now. I think that
that is something that they need to constantly hammer every
single time he's in front of a microphone. He needs
to find a way to bring this up. If he

(27:13):
finds a way to bring up. Yeah, these deals, we
just got another one. We're in the final stages of
negotiation for this one. We've got tax cuts coming. I
think that buys them some time. And bear with me here,
because I understand what's being done, but I need everyone
else to understand how this is being interpreted by the polls,
because you guys consume this stuff every day, right, I mean,

(27:34):
let's be honest, we're all kind of nerds, right, That's
why we're here every day. That's why we all and
I'm not saying that is a bad thing. Not everybody
else does that, right, and not everybody else follows it
as closely. So they're a little bit more susceptible to
push pull in than I would say other people are.
So when they see this bad stuff with the economy,
when they see the higher prices for certain items that

(27:57):
have been hit with tariffs, they're factoring that in. They
get one of these push pulls, and they're you know,
responding to it, and it's gonna look bad. Right. That's
why he's doing great on immigration. But some of the
polling coming in on the economy is starting to get harsh.
That was expected because we knew it was gonna be
a big, major realignment, that it was gonna be a
big shift, and it wasn't gonna be kittens and sunshine.

(28:18):
And they were upfront about that. They were upfront about it.
They said, look, they're gonna be They're gonna be tough.
That's why I I was, you know, hoping the administration
will go out and say it's but follow me because
there's a way out of it. It's bumpy, but we're
gonna come out on the other side. This is what
we have to do for long term sustainability and prosperity.
And keep messaging he needs to keep messaging that as well,

(28:40):
but also put out there, yes, we got these deals.
This is going to be in the final stages of negotiation.
Because what that's gonna do is buy him some more
time so he can get these members of Congress in order.
It's going to ease people's fears and concerns. They'll they'll
tell themselves internally, all right, I can hold out a
little bit longer. I can do a little bit longer.

(29:01):
And also as we gear up for midterms, it's going
to buy these lawmakers some more time. It's also going
to ease the markets. Messaging is everything, you know, not
not all conflicts are are mil military conflicts, you know,
some of them are monetary, some of them are spoken word.
It's very simple. That's all they have to do, and

(29:24):
just control the narrative on this and say, yeah, we're
in the final stages of you know, negotiation. He told
this to Time, but this was on Friday, Kaine. How
many how often have you heard this this interview? Have
you even really heard of this interview? A lot? No,
No to that, Well, obviously, because the media is not
The media doesn't want the markets to ease. They don't
want voters to have confidence. They don't want people to

(29:46):
take a deep breath. They don't want any of that.
They want chaos and fear. So he can do better
what the media does in terms of just getting his
message out there. Don't rely on the media to launder it,
go right to the people. And he just needs to
keep saying this stuff. I mean, just as the left
repeats a lie until they believe it, and they repeat

(30:07):
it over and over again. It's a it's a communist
tactic of trying to brainwash people. Just put the truth
out there. Okay, yeah, we're making these deals and this
is we're going to be announcing them, and and don't
just tell time, you know, tweet it out. I tweeted
out every DM day, multiple times a day, every time,
to where to the point where people are tired of

(30:28):
hearing of it, because that buys some time, and that's
what they need to be doing. And they, I mean
they did. They gave an aggressive schedule when they were
going to sign this stuff. He said. Now what he
also added, he goes, some countries may come back and
ask for an adjustment, and I'll consider that. But this
is a major realignment, and I get it. It has to

(30:50):
be made. And I know people are saying, oh my gosh,
thee Look, I agree with you on the sequencing. I
think tax cuts should have come first, but this is
where we're at regardless of what came first first. Honestly,
this is something that needs to be done because we're
getting slapped around one O there are manufacturing. Our ability
to be self sustaining is all affected by how much

(31:13):
we're penalized to the nth degree by all of these
other nations. And they're all weeping anshing of their teeth
because we're demanding the same and equal treatment. That's something
that the left used to love to say. Now they
don't like to say it anymore. All Right, a couple
of other things that we're gonna got to get into this.

(31:33):
We talked about the rolling blackouts over in Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, elsewhere.
I mean, they've had a hard time. What gets me.
I was looking at this this I was looking at
a couple of things, like climate realism, looking at some
of the previous demands on the United States when everybody's

(31:56):
been silent on China for climate demands, and then of
course then reading about all of you know, these these
EU nations they did all of this stuff. Think about it,
because it's kind of seeming like these blackouts and everything
else are caused by their obsession with green energy and
not having a backup. Did they even lower the Earth's

(32:17):
temperature by one degree with all those Oh no, this
is suicide. It's suicide to do this. Like in Texas,
we didn't. We were relying on wind and solar, and
then we had these natural gas lines that weren't insulated.
That was a big part of it. But wind and

(32:37):
sold they weren't. They were not. The output wasn't what
was promised, and so everybody found themselves in a bit
of a pickle. It's suicide, it's virtue signaling for whom.
And meanwhile, the biggest defenders China and really India. But
China they get to go without any repercussions at all. Whatsoever.

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Speaker 9 (34:34):
This current climate For me, it's you know, what's happening
to immigrants, you know, So it's it's not the fear
for myself anymore. I drive around in a four car
motorcade with a police escort.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I'm Michelle Obama.

Speaker 9 (34:49):
I do still worry about my daughters in the world,
even though they are somewhat recognizable. So my fears are
for what I know is happening out there in streets
all over the and now that we have leadership that
is sort of indiscriminately determining who belongs and who doesn't,
and we know that those decisions aren't being made with

(35:11):
courts and with due process, and you know that it's
being made like this cop that pulled my brother over
when he was twelve.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh my gosh, you go back to your twelve year
old brother, just for the love, you know what. I
would take her a lot more seriously if she was
just this concern about the indiscriminate deportations that happened under
her husband, who, by the way, love it or hated.
Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump. And he
also drone the hell out of Americans overseas. Oh wait

(35:41):
a minute, what you mean indiscriminate? Yeah, one of them
was a kid. Wasn't one of them also a twelve
year old boy that he droned at a cafe. I
didn't hear. I didn't hear Michelle Obama talk about how
upset she was over that then she wasn't. She didn't
object to it. Oh but now, oh oh, because see

(36:01):
it's somebody different. It's because it's Trump that's in the
White House. And now she has now she has objections.
Oh yeah, they like what was it? How many do they?
It was over two million people that he deported. It
was a lot, a lot of people that he deported.
And he also started the kids in Cages program because

(36:22):
so many people were coming over. They couldn't vet that
these kids were being brought by family members, so they
separated them to check first. She wasn't upset then either
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We've been talking a few things, uh, red state rhino hunting.
We focused on Texas and Florida because both states, God
love them, beautiful states. One's my backup state. Got a
lot of family in both and I have no idea

(37:47):
what's up with some of the Republican and name only folks.
And also, can I just say one of the states
has the most conservative governor on God's Green Earth. I
don't know of any other governor who has been more cantive.
I mean, it's like kind of Calvin Coolidge two point
zero and has done such a great job governing the
state of Florida, and yet you have a group of

(38:10):
I don't know, rag tag rhino bums that are just
trying to undercut everything that he's done. It's humid, and
I have sinus issues in Texas today, guys. So I'm
like really feeling myself right now. And he's joining us
right now via video Florida Governor Ron Decantis, who's who.
I know. He's in the middle of a budget battle,
but we always like checking in with them seeing where
everything is. You know, I'm feeling out my backup state governor.

(38:32):
It's good to have you. How you doing.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
We're doing good.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
You know.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
I've been talking recently about this Operation Title Wave that
we're doing with the federal government on immigration enforcement. Yes,
we're going to have more details about that later in
the week, but it is the biggest deportation suite that
the federal government has done since President Trump has taken office,
and it's being done in conjunction with all of Florida

(38:57):
state agencies as well as the relevant local agencies. And
you remember when I was on your program back in January,
I had called the special session of the Florida Legislature
to do, among other things, impose a duty on all
state and local agencies to not just we're not a
sanctuary state. We banned that my first year as governor.

(39:17):
But you can't just sit on your hands. You got
to actively cooperate and participate in immigration enforcement efforts. And
the leadership in the Florida House of Representatives rejected that.
They said it wasn't necessary that we could get around
to it at the regular session, and we obviously fought
over that. The voters demanded action, and we eventually were

(39:39):
able to land the plane. But all the stuff we've
been doing with all the immigration enforcement over these last
few months, none of that would have happened, you know,
had they got their way. So I'm pleased with the success.
I mean, I think if you look President Trump's has
finished one hundred days, clearly, the securing the border has
been a huge, huge, huge success. I think it's the

(40:02):
biggest drop in border crossings in American history. It's down
to ninety eight percent secured ninety nine depending on the statistics,
which is great. So the invasion has been stopped. But
then I think the question is, well, byden had the
floodgates open for four years, and that's on top of
a millions of illegals who were here anyways, and so
you have to be able to deal with that. The

(40:24):
only way I think you're going to be able to
make a big den in it is if you have
that state and local cooperation, because there just aren't enough
ICE agents right now in the federal government to get
the type of numbers we need. In Florida, they already
announced the first kind of part of Title Wave eight hundred.
A lot of these people were under active deportation orders,
some of them were convicted of crime, some of them

(40:45):
were known gang members. I think you're going to see
those numbers updated. I look forward to providing that information
very soon. But that's what it's going to take. And
so we're leading the way on that to support the
Trump administration's efforts. If we can't do it now, when
are we ever going to get it done?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
And this is exactly how it should have gone. It
reminds me under the Obama Biden DOJ when they were
going after Governor jan Brewer out in Arizona and they
caught her up in all kinds of law fair and
prevented her from doing I don't even think that it
was going as far as what you're doing in Florida
with state local agencies, but she wasn't allowed to do anything.
And of course that established this president where nobody could
do anything. So now you're able to actually exercise your

(41:24):
state sovereignty and use these utilize these local agencies to
the extent that they're meant to be used.

Speaker 8 (41:30):
Yeah, although you know, the thing about it is that
these blue states, I mean, it's kind of the heads
they win, tails we lose. Because when you have a Biden,
he just throws out his constitutional oath to take care
that the laws are faithfully executed. He doesn't enforce immigration law.
And so if you live in like a California or
even Florida at the time, you have no federal enforcement. Effectively, Well,

(41:52):
now that you have President Trump who's willing to do
it what a California or New York will do as
they say they're a sanctuary jurisdiction and so somehow they
can nullify the enforcement of federal law. So if you
have a Democrat president in there, he will just simply
not enforce. But then if you have a Republican who's
serious about it, then somehow the Blue states can simply

(42:14):
opt out of that. That is not the way the
founding fathers drew this up. I think Congress really needs
to get serious about conditioning funding to the states on
the condition that they participate in immigration enforcement efforts. So
if you're a sanctuary city, a sanctuary state, you will
be defunded of federal grants. And if you do that,

(42:36):
I think you would change the behavior. But Congress has
not been willing to use the power of the purse,
and so a lot of these Blue states are able
to get away with flagrantly undermining federal law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I want to point out too, we're talking for those
who are just tuning in, we're talking to Florida Governor
Ron DeSantis. When you're talking about arresting and deportation. I
want to get people the size of some of these
operations that you have under operation and tidle wave. I
saw this tweet just a couple of days ago from ICE,
and they talked about how it's the first of its
kind partnership. Just as you described, eight hundred illegal aliens

(43:09):
one just the first four days of one week in
four days eight That is a staggering amount. Eight hundred.
They said it was a massive multi agency immigration enforcement crackdown,
and I mean that's just one.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
That was just one operation, and that operations ongoing, so
that'll be updated.

Speaker 10 (43:29):
We're working with DHS.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
We're going to do a public announcement together, probably sometime
in the middle or to the end of the week,
so stay tuned on that. But I think the results
will be even even more more significant. And of course,
we have people on the ground at the state level
and at the local level that are absolutely critical in
these effortscause if you think about it, like our highway patrol,
if you have an illegal driving drunk on the road,

(43:53):
they get pulled over. Under Biden, if we called ICE,
basically they wouldn't come get them. Right now, not only
will the Trump administration accept they've deputized our folks to
exercise immigration enforcement power, so our highway patrol can take
the illegal, transport them to ICE, and be a part

(44:14):
of that effort to get them off the street. So
it's working well in Florida. We're going to continue to
do more. We're also in a position where we have
really good emergency response and management in Florida, and so
we obviously have to deal utilize that when we have
hurricane response, but we also use that for example, during

(44:34):
COVID when they had the monoclonal anti bodies, we set
up clinics and people got treatments and we used our
emergency management folks to do that. So likewise, on immigration,
we actually have proposals that we'll be able to hopefully
get approval from the FEDS to do where we can
do a lot of this independently and then bring the
illegals to get Mo or wherever they want us to

(44:57):
bring them and be even more significant. So hopefully we'll
be able to take it to the next level. I
know that ICE has not They don't really have the
adequate funding. I know they just did a continuing resolution.
I don't think that was enough, So we'll see what happens.
But yeah, we're on the tip of the sphere here
in Florida. And if you think about it, of all
the issues that animated the twenty twenty four election, this

(45:20):
was certainly near the top. If it wasn't the.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Top, it was in its operation Title Wave. And I'll
clarify for folks, it's one operation under one giant ongoing operation.
So you have all of these different these different partnerships,
and then this is just this was just one crackdown
under operation Title Wave. I wanted to ask you too,
because we were talking about immigration enforcement and budget and

(45:42):
all the stuff that the state does. I wanted to
ask you about Hope, Florida. I've been following this, you know,
pretty closely, and I think that this is such an
amazing partnership between you know, state and local organizations, you know,
charitable organizations where you have people partnering with the governor,
your wife, First Lady of Florida, Casey just Santa's spearhead
of this, and it it really it eliminates, honestly, government involvement.

(46:05):
You're saving taxpayers, you know, millions and millions of dollars.
You're eliminating government resources by empowering these you know, these
these private charities and people who want to do charitable work.
By meeting these people where they are and and empowering
them and empowering families. I mean, that's that to me,
is the whole conservative goal. But as you know, Governor,

(46:26):
you know there are some people in Tallahassee and that
state legislature that don't like it because it squeezes out
special interest kickbacks, and it squeezes out their ability to
ring these programs of all the cash that they can.
And so I feel like there's been some pretty unkind
and unfair attacks on the Florida First Lady, and I
just kind of wanted to get your your thoughts on that.
If you if you have some oh no question.

Speaker 8 (46:46):
Well, well you know how this business, what works. They
smear what they fear, so this is all manufactured and orchestrated.
But if you look at Hope, Florida, and this was
something that the First Lady developed on her own, she
didn't need to do it. She's never gotten one red
scent for all the stuff she's done for the state
over this period of time. She just does it because

(47:08):
she believes in it. But what it really represents is
a frontal assault on the LBJ War on Poverty approach,
where you'd create bureaucracies. The goal of the responsibility the
bureaucrat was to try to get people in need on
as many government programs as possible and then keep them
on those programs indefinitely. Well, we know that doesn't broaden

(47:30):
people's horizons. That creates a vicious cycle of dependency. And
so Casey's insight was, Okay, rather than have these bureaucrats
serve that function, why don't we have these bureaucrats be
what we call hope navigators where they are familiar with
the resources that are in our communities, particularly with the
faith based community, also private charity, local businesses, even individual volunteers.

(47:56):
And so she's been able to enlist thousands and thousands
churches and businesses around Florida. They participate in the Hope
program through what's called the care portal. So if you
have a single mom who maybe got evicted from her
apartment and she's got two young kids, she can go
and yeah, she can go to the government office and
maybe there's something that they give, but what they put

(48:16):
her in the care portal, guess what's going to happen.
Usually a church or a charity or someone will come
and fill that need. And so what you've done by
doing that is you're really showing people in need and
navigating them to all the resources that are available. It's
help finding help, but help that is going to actually

(48:37):
lift people up and get them on a pathway to selfish.
So since this program has been fully instituted. They've gotten
thirty thousand people off of government assistance, and they've saved
taxpayers one hundred and six million dollars. And so that
is a model that we're looking to expand across other
agencies in the state of Florida and then expand into

(48:58):
specific areas like helping families that have children with unique ability,
and then also helping with with childcare because we think
there's a lot of churches and faith organizations who are
wanting to be enlisted in the childcare space. And if
you think about it, if you have like a single
mom that she has to put food on the taper
looking at the kids, that's a huge component of it.

(49:20):
Childcare is very expensive. So we're gonna have more announcements
coming up very shortly. But it's been a remarkably successful program.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
That's how it should work.

Speaker 8 (49:28):
Something that people realize it's successful, people realize that she's
done a good job. And there's some people that don't
like it. Obviously, the left in some of these liberal media,
they don't like the fact that Florida enlists the faith
based community. We have other states come to try to
learn about Hope Florida and even mimic it. And what
we found is liberal states. Once they know you're using

(49:50):
utilizing the faith community, they don't want to be at
that point.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I have two other things I want to ask you about,
governor too, and I apologize because we're I wish I
could keep you for the whole hour. Be great. I
have so many things I'd love to ask you. I
wanted to ask you real quick. There there's one lawmaker
who was talking about taking Florida to the next level
after the where does Florida? I mean, how can Florida
go to the next level after you were in the
governor's office? I mean, where do they go to the moon?

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Like?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Where? What? What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (50:17):
Well, we've had since I become governor, we've had almost
a forty percent increase in our GDP, second most of
all fifty states. We've paid down forty one percent of
our state's total debt for our one hundred and eighty
year history. We paid it down. We have the lowest
per capita amount of government employees at the state level

(50:38):
per capita in the entire country. We've cut taxes by
billions of dogister Republicans, universal school choice we took on
the woke in higher education, we took on woke corporations.
We've done We've done what people wanted us to do.
And that's why when I became governor, there were almost
three hundred thousand more registered Democrats than Republicans. Now we

(50:58):
have one point two million and more registered Republicans. You
didn't get that data by offering pale pastels. We got
that because we drew a sharp contrast with the left.
People knew that Republicans, under my leadership, we'd protect your
kids from gender insanity in the elementary school, in all
the schools. They knew that we were not going to

(51:20):
let rioters take over our streets or our cities, that
we were going to be a law in order state.
They knew all these things, and that's why people have responded,
not just by moving to Florida, but people like in
Miami Dade who used to be independents or Democrats switching
over to Republican in record numbers.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
I have one last quick question for you. I have
under sixty seconds. Are you and Tucker friends you and
Tucker Carlson? Are you guys? You guys seen we.

Speaker 8 (51:46):
Were when he had his Fox show you know, when
he lost the Fox Show, I kind of lost track
of what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
You know, he was talking about hunting.

Speaker 8 (51:56):
I think was saying that that I signed an anti
semitism which shows somehow I'm controlled by donors. I'm thinking
to myself, this was like a unanimous bill that passed.
I don't know that donors are even involved in it.
So some of this stuff is just bizarre. But I'll
let people say what they want. What I don't want
to do is give anyone grisp for the mill to
try to increase their engagement or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, there you go, Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis. Always a
pleasure to talk with you. Great success in Florida. Love
the state. We vacation there quite a bit. We appreciate it. Governor.
We'll love to have you back. Thanks so much. We'll
talk against the Thanks so much.

Speaker 8 (52:30):
Take care.

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food between the ages of thirty and sixty nine. Yeah,
and they found a ten percent increase in total colors
from ultra processed food actually increased your risk of dying
prematurely by three percent. I don't know, you eat healthy.
After fifty three years of failed Soviet Venus spacecraft is

(54:51):
crashing back to Earth. Now. In my defense, when I
first saw this headline, it was talking about a space
junk fall towards the planet, and I got really excited
because I thought it was be an asteroid. No it's not.
It's a Russian spacecraft. It'll probably burn up before it
comes back in with uncontrolled re entry, so I don't know.
We'll see on that one. Also, let's see we got oh,

(55:14):
a pilot threatened to turn the plane around because some
d bag passenger was vaping in the boys room. Well,
it was in the laboratory there. The New York Post
they have the story. They were going from the LA
to Cancun and somebody literally got in trouble vaping in
the laboratory and the pilot actually had to make an
announcement because it's set off a smoke alarm. It's a

(55:36):
federal offense. And they said they were going to turn
the plane around if they had to tell anybody else again, like,
you can't wait till you get to Cancun. It's not
like LA to Cancun is a long flight. For the love.
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Speaker 11 (56:48):
This is not a media failure. This is a failure
of the Democratic Party. And I just sort of sort
of the virtue signaling that some people have done to
try to say that the media missed this story. They
didn't miss this. Oh No, I just refuse to accept this,
this stupid premise, because it's a right wing, manufactured, right
wing premise in order to stay in the media, the

(57:10):
media has got plenty of things to attack them for,
and there are MSNBC and that.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Can't be quite anymore. First off, that's nonsense, And as
Kane noted, democrats in the media are the same thing.
They are. But what's more, No, you guys didn't ignore
the story. No, I actually disagree with that. I agree.
I don't think that democrats ignored the story or sorry,
the media ignored the story, Kane. No, they saw it

(57:35):
and they ran the other way. They went out of
their way to not report on it. So it's not
that they ignored it. They just omitted it because there
are a bunch of line right masters. That's why. And
we all know this like it's a big right wing.
It's what's the right wing. The fact that you guys
defended him when he would fall upstairs. Oh no, that's

(57:57):
just his stutter. Where the hell did that narrative come from?
Because it sure has held him come for the right wing?
Oh my gosh, k Joe Biden felled up the stairs.
Normally one falls down them. He fell up them. How
dare you make fun of his stutter? What with his feet?
This didn't make any sense. Or when he would say
things that are totally not even true. He would talk

(58:18):
about people who were dead that he'd talked to the
other day. It's like, no, no, that's no, that's pretty
much not a right that's not a stutter, and that's
not a right wing narrative. You can't tell us that
the stuff that we saw with our ears or eyes
and heard with our ears, that it's the right wing narrative.
I mean, everybody saw this. Democrats saw it too. And
here's the other reason why. I also say that Democrats

(58:39):
themselves they would ignore it to a point, but they
ended up they didn't want to go vote for him.
They didn't want him, and then the whole party had
to go to Kamala Harris and like throw and switch
him out. I mean, it's just crazy, it's just absolutely insane.
Welcome back to the program, Dania Lash with you. We
got to a Congressmanship is gonna be coming up next

(59:01):
hour as well, and this couple of things to touch on.
So first and foremost on the Amazon thing. We were
talking about how Amazon it was reported where and it
was punch Bowl News that said this, and I read
this this morning over it. I saw this punch Bowl
this morning. They were saying that Amazon is going to
display the tariff costs for consumers. Where do they get

(59:24):
their sourcing? Because Amazon is now is denying this report.
Let me pull this up. This is over at USA today.
Now Amazon is saying, no, punch Bowl News, that's not right.
They said that punch Bowl cited an unnamed source that
they're going to that they're going to have these the

(59:45):
prices of the increase and prices caused by tariffs next
to the products and they but it was even what's more,
it was even underscored by Caroline Lovett who said that
she got off the phone with the president of Amazon
and she said it was a hostile and political act

(01:00:06):
by Amazon. But then the spokesperson of Amazon said that's
not true. So what is it? Are they Amazon's trying to,
I guess clarify.

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
I was under the impression when I saw that conference
this morning the presser that when she said she got
off the phone with the President, she was referring to
Trump and that they were responding to that rumor. I
don't I didn't get that they that apparently she got
off the phone with Bezos or well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
I don't think she was, because he's not he's not
even in charge of Amazon anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
But I mean, my impression was that she talked to
President Trump about it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I let's pause all here for a moment. I would
like to think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
That it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
You know, if you're a business, you wouldn't be responded
to so publicly if you knew or if it was
known that you weren't doing this and it was unconfirmed.
You see what I'm saying, which.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
Is why I think she had to talk with President
Trump as opposed to anyone from me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Then they said, but but she said that it was
a hostile and political act, so I which I don't
necessarily agree with, but I but I do think is
it disingenuous if they if they were going to do it,
if they didn't do it for inflation yet? But it's
also stupidly disingenuous to not accurately note like, Okay, this
is legit made in China, and this isn't so apparently, uh,

(01:01:31):
I guess Potus called Bezos. Although Bezos not he's not
really involved in Amazon anymore because he didn't he sell
basically the daily operations of that I can't remember, but
he did. He's like he's he's like removed from that.
But apparently, and and and that's why it's so weird
that they would. I that's why I don't think that
it's a political act because they donated a million. Now, granted,

(01:01:53):
you can make it a tax right off. I think
to some extent. However, it's structured to an extent and
to the inaugural for the inaugural party, and he was there.
They were there a couple of different times. He was
at marl Lago. I mean, that's definitely not the I
don't think that that's the association, the level of association
you would see if someone's going to do something like

(01:02:13):
this later. I don't know, but the Amazon spokesperson said
the move wasn't considered for the main Amazon site, but
for Amazon Hall. And then they sent CNN a statement
this was less than an hour ago, saying that it
was not approved and not going to happen. Can I

(01:02:34):
just pause? What the hell is Amazon Hall? What is that? Steve?
Do you know what Amazon Hall is?

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
So, Amazon Hall? I have no idea what. I've never
even heard of this. It's is it like Amazon but
more nerd? I don't know what is it. We don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
Larger items from Amazon the require hauling. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Yeah, I don't know. Is it like wholesale? Maybe it's
like wholesale stuff. I feel like I need to be
a better consumer at this point to know about it, right,
I'm like, how do I not know about those?

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
What I'm seeing here is this the regular hyperbole that
we see from the media. Let's say there was a
rumor that got to the Trump administration that said Amazon's
considering doing these tariff numbers by their items, and then
Trump's like, Wow, I'm going to get on the phone
with Bezos and find out if this is true or not. Yeah,
and so Trump calls and all this the reporting is
Trump is you know, he he actually is complaining to

(01:03:33):
Bezos and they're they're just the hyperbole from the media
is what I think is muddying.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
This thing up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
It is, and I think some of the hyperble although,
I mean, so if they're saying that it was supposed
to be for that it was being considered for Amazon
Hall and not Amazon and they said it was never
approved and not going to happen.

Speaker 7 (01:03:56):
So let's consider the fact that this was a unnamed
source that got all of this started. How have we
seen something like that before, where an unnamed source starts
this big.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Media Amazon Hall, I asked Ai.

Speaker 7 (01:04:12):
Oh, well, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Amazon Hall is a new shopping experience on the Amazon
app and website that focuses on budget friendly products, primarily
items reduced at twenty dollars or less.

Speaker 8 (01:04:25):
So it's the the cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Cheap stuff, cheap Chinese stuff. Just call it the CCS
cheap Chinese stuff. That's what it is, all right. So Okay,
I didn't know what that was. I didn't know it
was a whole thing. Oh interesting, I mean, how is
that different from you acquiring minds want to know?

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
And just so you know, it's not that we impose
this big tariff on China. It's always been China's giant
tariff on us. The reciprocal nature of Trump's policies are
what is the issue? So China's next to move, which
by the way, they cannot sustain what they're doing right now,
is to come back to the table and negotiate fair
tariff or eliminated completely.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
You know what's kind of funny though, because in all
of the debates between the right and left that I've
seen on this, you know, people are like, well, why
didn't they do this asi Biden's inflation? Why didn't they?
Can we just admit that both of these things increase prices?
The media is accidentally having to admit We've all we've
always said, Look, the tariffing is going to be tough.

(01:05:29):
It's a tactic to equalize the playing field. That's not
what's being debated. I mean, you're gonna have to take
a tough, tough move like that. And I'm not I
wanted tax cuts to come first, that's my big thing.
But no, But what if I what I said, This
is going to hurt for a little bit. So do
you want them the spine for it?

Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
Do you want the permanent pain of Biden policies or
do you want the temporary is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
The media is actually having to admit that Biden's inflation
raised prices.

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
Yeah, and we're already inflation year over years down significantly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
These people are clowns. Oh my gosh. Sometimes when I
sit here and try to understand and process, like, I'm
like Democrats where are arguing. It's weird how they argue
things from a certain perspective, because I feel like they're
they in order to score a win on someone that
they think as a politically ideological opponent. They are admitting
something that they were denying forever as as a get

(01:06:24):
it is. It feel like you're refereeing drunk people. Yes,
when I talk to I feel like I'm refereing a
drunk person. Like I'm babysitting a drunk That's what it
feels like whenever I'm trying to dive in and understand
the hell you people on the left are talking about.
It's like I'm the sober friend at the social get
together and I'm babysitting a room full of drunks, which

(01:06:44):
is chaos. It's just what it's like. It's this, Yeah,
it's who boy. I'm telling you all right, a couple
of things that I miss blah blah blah. We're gonna
get into coming up red state rhino hunting, so we're
gonna have all of that coming up. The where's this at? Okay,

(01:07:05):
I saw this headline that I don't it's Washington Post.
It's a Washington Post headline, and I saw this headline
and I want to give you how it states. And
then I do think it's interesting now that some of
the polling is kicking in and then you have these

(01:07:25):
headlines coming out that I'm glad that the admin Is
starting to put more pressure on the tax cut stuff,
which is great, and I love that this is Washington Post.
Public sours on Musk's roll is skeptical that government is
cutting waste. All right, So here's a new crack they
think they found and it said, here's the first graft

(01:07:47):
and that's all you need to know. They said that
I didn't look at their poll. It's a Wallpo ABC pull.
I didn't look at it because I don't put a
lot of stock in the ABC stuff. I'm being honest.
They said Americans are increasing the critical of Elon Musk's
role in the ADMIN. They said that there's some negative
reactions to cuts and they're skeptical that he's cutting waste
in front. Okay, well I need the left to pick

(01:08:09):
a lane. They're either mad that he's not cutting enough
or cutting anything, or they're mad that he has the
authority to do so, which he doesn't. So which is it.
He doesn't have the authority to do it. All he
can do is audit it, recommend it to Congress, and
then they do it. But do you see what's happening here?

(01:08:29):
And is this is what I had on my rundown?
This is exactly how I have it on my show Rundown.
For today, when Republicans fail to pass meaningful economic reform,
this is going to happen and everyone's going to throw
him under the bus. So the big spenders that are
in Congress that are dragging their feet on meaningful economic reform,

(01:08:50):
the big spinning bush leagues, they're going to drag this out.
And then the public is going to say, well, wait,
what is all this show about Doge? Then what's this
show about him actually cutting spending? Et cetera, et cetera,
And then they're going to question the validity of Doge.

(01:09:11):
And then from there it's just going to make them
angryer and angrier, and it's going to they're going to
try to They're they're they're trying to inflame passions and
create a hasm. That's the goal here. So the longer
it takes, and it's not just you know, obviously all
of Democrats, but there are a couple of there's some

(01:09:33):
Republicans that, I mean, let's be honest. There they are
the poor barrel Republicans. I mean, we know people like
this and they're not just in the House, they're in
the Senate, right, They're the ones who also are insider
trading people. We're going to talk about that in a minute.
But they like bringing home the bacon to their district
and it's a it's a real thing. The long the

(01:09:55):
longer this drags out, the more that they're going to
be able to use Musk as like the avatar for
everything that's wrong. They want a scalp. The left wants
a scalp. They really want Musks. And out of all
of this, I think ultimately the pressure is more on

(01:10:16):
Republicans in Congress than it is on anybody else in
this because Trump is doing everything that he can. Musk
has done everything that he can. Now these other people
need to do their part, and it has to happen,
and it needs to happen soon. So I'm glad to
see that they're starting to really put that really call
them out at press conferences. It needs to continue happening.

(01:10:37):
But if people don't see cuts, they're going to wonder
what dose is about and what's been happening this whole time.
And you know, there's going to be some independence that
don't follow it as closely as we all do. And
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Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time
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Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Oh my gosh. All right, so here's the headline. Florida
man dressed as Ronald McDonald wrestled to the ground by cops, saying, quote,
I am a clown. Stupid? Is that his actual mugshot?
I think the gut. So he's got he's a white
dude with dreadlocks, you know how I feel about that.
And he's got real messed up tiefs. Okay, they're not

(01:12:25):
teeth at that point, they're teefs. Uh yeah, when it's
the color of honey, you got tiefs. So apparently, so
the story is. Body cam footage has a Florida man
being busted while dresses Ronald McDonald in a scuffle. Oh
my gosh, he's forty, Christopher Marlowe. This guy's he's forty.

(01:12:46):
Oh wow, dude, he looks like Jeff Lebowski. He's he's forty.
He was dressed as the McDonald's character, bright yellow, red
white costume, big nose. He was trespassing at a shopping
center Pombay. Police were hauled and they had to wrestle
him to the ground and he was told by one
of the arresting officers, you look like a clown, and

(01:13:06):
he yelled back, no, redacted, I am a clown, stupid,
and yeah, that's but they they were cited for trespass
at this shopping plaza once this guy and he went
back and then he got in trouble again, so he
was taken into customer forty.

Speaker 7 (01:13:23):
You sure didn't say he's in his late forties.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
No, dude, he said he's forty. I know, right, I'm like,
what can we talk about? A dude? Who I saw this?
I think it was Vegas Larry that sent this to me.
The uh man wrangling and out brand new This is
a new one. I think we've seen this guy before,
a barefoot alligator wrestler. So he was he was there

(01:13:46):
to go and get this gator off the road. And
it was on Sunday. It was a giant, elegant dude
was barefoot. I think he was in camo shorts and
barefoot and he was. He wrestled that gator in truth
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Speaker 12 (01:15:08):
We are once again at one of those hinge moments
of history. Our old relationship with the United States, a
relationship based on steadily increasing integration, is over. The system
of open global trade anchored by the United States, a
system that Canada has relied on since the Second World War,

(01:15:30):
A system that will not perfect, has helped deliver prosperity
for a country for decades.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Gosh, he just even looks like a Davos stooge. That's
Mark Carney. He's I mean, he's taken over after Justin
Trudeau those elections yesterday and he's the new PM, and
I just you know, in looking at this, it's unfortun

(01:15:59):
I just can't believe that this is what they chose
and can not everybody, but you know, the Liberals in Canada,
they wanted some more of this. Welcome back to the program,
Dana Lash here with you or at the top of
this third hour says, oh, the old relationship with the
US is over.

Speaker 9 (01:16:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
I mean this guy, he when you look at he,
I don't think. I don't think Carnee. From what I understand,
Karnie has never been an elected office before and his
political acumen is just horse feces it is. And he's
you know, he's a woke globalist. He's the exact type

(01:16:38):
of dude that you do not want running an ally
or a neighbor to the north. He's I he was
what governor of the Bank of England from twenty thirteen
to twenty twenty. He's very anti Brexit. From what I understand,
he he's just one of those He's just one of
those guys. He's a he's a Just and Trudeau like

(01:17:01):
all in that same vein all of these guys, they're
all like the They all came from the same cookie
cutter factory, right. They all look the same, they act
the same, they say the same thing. They have the
same technocrat, you know, globalist kind of worldview speech approach,
and this was the last thing that Canadians needed. But

(01:17:24):
you know, in four years, we'll see, we'll see what
else happens. But I don't know. In the meantime, we're
in our first one hundred days here with this administration,
and we've got some really good things. We've got the
closed border, we have really good action on immigration. These

(01:17:44):
are all really good. But we're gonna need We're gonna
need some more. I'm not the only one saying that.
I think I've been saying it the longest, but I'm
not the only one saying it. We have to have
some serious reform. And I saw a headline something like
Republicans in Congress need to act or it's going to
be more show than dough, which I liked that saying

(01:18:05):
it flowed nicely. But Congress has to back up Doge.
And by backing up Doors, you're backing up Potus. And
if you're not backing up dos, you're not backing up Potus.
And I think a lot of these people out here,
I'm gonna tell you, instead of you know, getting into
these stupid slap fights over over primary stuff from twenty sixteen.

(01:18:29):
People need to be spending if they're truly actually America first,
they need to be spending their time and their attention
on these rhinos in Congress who are dragging their feet
at this. Honestly, I mean, I kind of wonder if
we if we had somebody other than Mike Johnson, would
we be getting some more of this done. Yes, we've
got a razor thin majority, but how in the world

(01:18:49):
think about it like this? How in the world does
that matter? How in the world does that matter at
this point when you saw what the results of last
election were, why did everybody go invoult the way that
they did. Why does the right have this new fangled
coalition that it barely knows how to manage? It's because
people were tired of inflation. They were tired of the
woke scold. They were tired of lawless, total unfettered you know,

(01:19:13):
chaos and disorder at the border. Those three things drove
everybody to vote the way that they did. So why
in the world are we not doubling down on that
and expanding on that and and making and delivering on
promises immediately? Because Trump, honestly, he's done everything that he
can do in terms of reducing the size and scope

(01:19:37):
of government. He can do a million things with executive order.
He's had more executive orders I think, probably even more
than LBJ at this point in his term. I think,
And where's the legislation? You know? I mean it should
be boom done. This is codify boom done. This is
codify boom done, boom over and over. That's what it

(01:19:59):
should be. And if we had people in DC who
are a little bit better at messaging. You can't tell
me that you could not bend some of these weaker
Purple Democrats over a barrel and get them to support
this stuff. I don't believe you couldn't. I don't believe
you couldn't. You know, why, how crazy would it be
if you were able to get some of these Democrats

(01:20:21):
to go along with tax cuts in that why not
have potus Like now, this is going to sound crazy. Now,
keep in mind these are democrats from areas that are,
you know, purple, where you're probably not going to have
a good Republican candidate in those areas. Doesn't mean you
shouldn't see the ground, but I think you got to

(01:20:42):
look at it like a give and take right, I've
been watching too much Mobland. You gotta work. You gotta
look at it like a give and take. Okay, you
did that for me, Maybe I'll rally for you because
you give us tax cuts. Right, you did something for me.
You know, you take care of the harrigans, the harogans
to take care of you one of those things. You know.
I'm like, well, I can't do that. It's a little Mochiabellian. Yeah,

(01:21:02):
But does it get the job done? That's the whole point.
Does it get the job done? Does it get what
you want? Does it get you closer to the end zone?
That's the whole point. And if that's not your point,
what are you doing? And if those moves are not
getting you to where you need to go, what are
you doing? Everybody? Who is everybody in every issue? That
is a distraction. I feel like should be dragged out

(01:21:24):
at this point. We have our times even shortened out
already after the first hundred days. Congress holds the power
of the person that's great and the executive branch. Their
legitimacy comes from having this mandate of the people. Congress
represents the individual constituents. They all derive their legitimacy and

(01:21:47):
authority from us. We've given them the authority to do that.
They can legitimately act in doing this. They need to
have it done. And you know this, I I really
think that lawmakers need to kind of I know that
they're trying to look at their localities and do the

(01:22:08):
best thing for their district while balancing that within needs
of national interests. But at this point, we're right on
the cliff. What do we like thirty something trillion in
debt something to that point. I can't even imagine that
amount of money. That's insane. I think by the end
of this year we're going to be I read I
think it was over at Wall Street Journal that we're
going to be near forty trillion in debt and it's

(01:22:31):
going to grow. Either Congress is going to change it
or economy is going to collapse. That's why these moves
are so drastic. Like with trade and manufacturing, these tariffs,
it's a short term tactic to just try to get
us to some equilibrium to where we can be in
a position to start on shoring our manufacturing and our

(01:22:53):
production all this stuff. And it's a drastic move. And
I have said going into this that there are a
lot of people that are not going to have the
stomach for it. That's why you've got to be out there.
Populism is a tactic. It's not a set of beliefs,
but it requires that you be in front of people regularly.
So Trump is going to be isy rallying in Michigan.

(01:23:15):
That's smart, oh man. I hope he hammers tax cuts.
If you get Trump out there at a rally, you
get Trump out there in front of the camera talking
about tax cuts and throwing it in Democrats' faces, he
can for he can shame them into he can force
them into acting, or at least force them to feel
the pressure of the people in their district who withdrew
their support of the Democrat and went to go support Republicans.

(01:23:39):
Presidents as much as as much authority as they have
in the executive office, they are still limited in how
much spending they can cut. They're incredibly limited. I mean,
even some of the eos have a shelf life. I
think it was through recisions previously that some republic that's

(01:24:00):
some Republican presidents have tried to get a handle on spending.
But you've seen what happens when Trump tries to stop
already spending that Congress has passed appropriations bills to secure
so appropriated spending. When Trump moves to stop that, the
court's intervene. That's what we're seeing with some of this stuff.

(01:24:21):
So he the executive branch, not just Trump in particular,
but the executive branch is limited on how much spending
they can cut and the shelf life of eos that
dictate it. And it doesn't even matter. And I know
some people will say, and I can already because I
can say it myself. Oh but yeah, but this appropriation

(01:24:42):
was stupid. Oh, I agree, some of the propriations are
incredibly stupid. But it goes through Congress. That's how it works.
It's not a bug, it's a feature of the system.
That's how it works. And so he he can make
he can propose these reforms. He has, you know, an
auditing system basically, and every time they cut the appropriated spending,

(01:25:06):
their challenge in the courts. When they don't, they're challenging
the courts for everything. Congress has to act. Otherwise it's
all theater. He is at the limit of what he
can do. He's done everything you said. He's gonna do.
You can love him or hate him, but he's done it.
Agree with it or not. He's done it. Now where's Congress?

(01:25:31):
That's the issue. And like I was saying earlier, you
know the headline that I had last hour, how they're
targeting Musk, saying, oh you know Musk. You know people
are wondering if Doge is all show. Lorene and I
were talking on Slack. She's like, well, and because I
had said they want a scout and she knowed, Yeah,
they can't get Trump or they want Musk. That's exactly right.

(01:25:54):
They can't get Trump. They're gonna go after Musk. Let
me tell you something else that's on deck. Uh, who's
that guy that Indian lawmaker came let me pull his
thing up? He is.

Speaker 7 (01:26:08):
Sad.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
Yeah, what state is he out of?

Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
Michigan?

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Michigan. So this guy they're already talking about, he wants
to already start impeachment, which is stupid. I don't know
based on what he's saying, Oh, well, he ignored a
Supreme Court order about well, he's exercising the power of
the executive So that's irrelevant. I mean, they want to
they want to accuse him of a crime without showing
actual Again, here we are evidence of any kind of

(01:26:34):
you know, criminal activity. I'm so tired of this stuff.
I could. I'm trying not to say something really rude
right now. I'm trying to be a nice person, a
better person. Right I'm so fiery. First hour, I'm trying
to like take it back down, you know, because you guys,
you guys want to go home and have a chill evening.
But all of this is linked. If we don't get

(01:26:55):
the economy in order, we're going to lose our hats
on midterms. And then guess what's going to happen. Guess
what happens when you lose Congress. Guess that little freak
nut is gonna start filing articles of impeachment. Democrats are
gonna go along with it. Think guess what we got
for two years? More impeachment fight, and it's gonna be
non stop, that non stop. They are gonna bungle up everything.

(01:27:20):
Goodbye cuts, No, you're not gonna you won't. You won't
get tax cuts. You might get an increase all of that.
And we we have less than two years to make
this happen. Right now, he has literally done everything he
said Congress needs to show up. There ought to be
some kind of rolling caravan going after congressional members that

(01:27:45):
are refusing to do what's required. If they don't have
a spine, then make them feel the heat. Make it hot.
That's gonna have to happen, Republicans, You're gonna have to
get nasty. I think that's what's gonna have to happen.
We'll talk more about this here coming up. We got
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All right, So bags of cash, sweet cash fell from
a Brinx truck in suburban Chicago. Crowds of people stole
three hundred thousand dollars. Wow, it somehow open. They don't
know how it opened. By unknown means and all this money.
People were just grabbing all this money in Oak Park,

(01:29:47):
three bags of currency fell out. It happened when the
driver was moving on Tuesday and Brinks. They returned to
the area and fifty to one hundred people were seen
taking money and fleeing. So they estimated that was three
hundred thousand dollars. Don't they have They don't have anybody
in custody. But I mean, can't they track that like
you can track the money. Yeah, I mean you got cereal.

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Everything's serialized, so you could track that cash. They know,
so people are gonna get caught. Oh my gosh. The
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It's like no nome.

Speaker 7 (01:30:22):
I think it might be pronounced no, no, that's still no.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Sorry if you named your kid that, But it's I
don't know why they just you know, I don't mind
unique names, but when people try to make it really
obnoxiously unique, I feel like you're sitting your kid like
you deserve to be made fun of, right, you know,
because we care about your kids safety and health, you know.
I feel like, oh, let's see here's the headline quote.

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Walking fifty three miles dressed as a giant bird was
harder than I thought. Who did this? A British guy?
Of course, he uh decided to hike as a bird
because he wanted to protect He's like an environmentalist and
so he dressed. I don't even know what this bird is,
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Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Welcome back to the program, your lovable curmudgeon. Here at
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We were talking well a million things, the Amazon stuff,
the tariffs, the now more and more. I feel like
potus is talking about tax cuts and of course that

(01:32:48):
press conference Caroline Lovett today on Behalf of the Admin
where they were talking about you know, we're gonna make
these tax cuts. We're gonna get this pass. Talking about
that big beautiful budget the BBB. Well, we need to
ask Congress about this. Joining us one of our favorite
people and we can literally only say that about L
two or three honestly in Congress from the Great Republic
of Texas. Congressman Chip Roy he joins us now. He

(01:33:10):
literally just ran over from doing his job and cast
in votes for Texans and he's now sitting and talking
to us. Congressman, good to see you.

Speaker 10 (01:33:19):
Great to see Dan. I do you have Christ and
your family are well?

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
We are doing very well, and I hope the same
for you and yours. And all right, I'm getting excited
because everybody's talking about tax cuts and I am living
and dying on tax cuts. Tell me, are we going
to actually get this? Because I know it's a slim
majority in the House. I know it's tough. I know
it's like herding cats. And you got some really stubborn Democrats,
to say nothing of some pretty stubborn Republicans too, But

(01:33:43):
where are we at on that? And I know you
guys feel the pressure.

Speaker 13 (01:33:48):
So let me try to put in contexts for your audience.
What we're dealing with, right, So we have the tax
cuts that were passed under President Trump in twenty seventeen.
The corporate rates were made permanent. The individual rates then
varied somewhat, and then there were some other corporate rates
that are research and developments of expensing stuff and other
things that have already expired. But all the personal rates

(01:34:11):
those expire this December. Now what am I talking about?
There was a doubling of the standard deduction, which usually
helps youre non homeowners and a little bit more of
your lower income filers. There was the rate reductions for
a lot of people. Also, a doubling I think of
the child tax credits, a significant increase in child tax credits.
Now that stuff expires in December, so we don't do

(01:34:32):
anything then, that means those rates will go up. In
other words, we're not actually talking about a cut at
the moment. What we're doing is we're trying to stop
an increase. Now, that's all a part of a larger question,
which is the deficit question. Are we going to do
the spending cut side of the equation. So the reconciliation
bill that we're dealing with right now, which is done

(01:34:55):
with fifty one votes in the Senate, so we can
avoid the nonsense with Democrats in the Senate. That's why
it's such a big deal. That's why there's the big,
beautiful bill. It's to try to get the spending side
done and the tax side done. Now here's the fundamental problem,
and then I'll stop bilibustering. Now, Republicans always, Republicans always
choose the easy path, which is the tax cut side.

Speaker 10 (01:35:17):
I support it.

Speaker 13 (01:35:18):
I'd like to cut taxes in half. I'd like to
abolish the income tax altogether. Get itri of the irs, right,
I'm in comma. However, Republicans simultaneously promise a lot of
free craft. Okay, and last time I checked this, now
the United States House of free crap.

Speaker 10 (01:35:35):
And but yet that's what we do.

Speaker 13 (01:35:37):
And so now we're having a debate about whether or
not we can reform Medicaid and other programs to constrain
spending so that we don't have deficits exploding out of control.
And our budget in the House said, look, we're going
to just reduce the increase in Medicaid, so it we
increase about a trillion and a half instead of about

(01:35:58):
two and a half trillion, save a trillion or so.

Speaker 10 (01:36:01):
I'm ballpark.

Speaker 13 (01:36:02):
And now a bunch of Republicans are saying, oh, we
can't touch medicaid. By the way, there's so much fraud
to use to medicaid. Of course we can perform it.
The Republicans have got to have the backbone to do it.
So the final point is if we don't, then I
think the tax increases that might occur, the extension of
the tax cuts is in jeopardy. And I got to
tell you I won't vote for a bill that doesn't

(01:36:23):
have enough on the spending reduction side of the equation
just because my colleagues are trying to put me into
a corner over the tax cuts.

Speaker 10 (01:36:32):
If that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
It does make sense, because that's that's always that's kind
of always been an argument from the left, is that
tax cuts cost, and you know, you've got to pay
for them somehow, so they always want to increase. They
think you have to order the government spending, you have
to increase taxes in order to pay for government spending,
which I agree with you, you have to do both.
It's not especially right now. I mean, we're what thirty

(01:36:55):
something trillion dollars in debt. I think it's projected to
be forty trillion by the end of the year. I mean,
you have to have both at this at this stage
of the game. And I knew that there were going
to be some of your colleagues in the House that
we're going to drag their feet about medicaid. I knew
that there were going to be some that we're going
to drag their feet about this. Is there? Are you hopeful?
I mean, give us a sense of how hard we

(01:37:16):
should be, how many times we should be calling our
elected officials today.

Speaker 10 (01:37:20):
So it's a mixed bag.

Speaker 13 (01:37:22):
I think there is a genuine effort, in a desire
at the White House and among Republican leadership to deliver it.
The budgets that we voted for before Easter were designed
to get us on a path to be able to succeed.

Speaker 10 (01:37:33):
The committees are working, but I'll just.

Speaker 13 (01:37:35):
Tell you there are a lot of yellow flags, if
not red flags, popping up all over the place as
I look at what they're trying to produce in these
various committee products.

Speaker 10 (01:37:44):
Let me give you an example.

Speaker 13 (01:37:46):
So we're getting revenue going down in the Highway Trust
Fund because there are more evs compared to gas cars,
and a lot of the gas cars.

Speaker 10 (01:37:54):
Have better mileage.

Speaker 13 (01:37:54):
Right, So the gas tax, which used to fund the
highway charge, still funds the Highway Trust Fund going down
as a percentage right of the overall vehicles. So they
want to come up with a solution to that. The
solution being put forward in the Committee and T and
I is a car registration see federal that would be
applied to ebs and gas powered cars. Now I'm against that.

(01:38:18):
I don't register things for the federal government. I don't
think the federal government.

Speaker 10 (01:38:21):
Should have anything to do with my system.

Speaker 13 (01:38:23):
So that would be a significant I've been like forty
eight billion dollar pars of fees to pay for stuff
like coast Guard and the air traffic controllers.

Speaker 10 (01:38:31):
They need money, okay.

Speaker 13 (01:38:33):
But then when I complained about it, I was told, Chip,
don't worry about it. We're going to strip that out
in the Highway Trust Fund later. What that means is
it's a gimmick. They want to put it in the
bill as a pay for. Shrive it out later, they say,
and then that way you get rid of the tax,
but you use it as a fake pay for. I
think it is doubling that that way, and this is

(01:38:53):
what I'm dealing with that I'm trying to push back
republics like, let's be open, let's be honest, let's reduce
the size of scope of government.

Speaker 10 (01:38:59):
Let's taxes so the American people can have more money
in their pockets.

Speaker 13 (01:39:02):
Let's actually be the party of limited government, the actual
party of the Constitution, the actual party a bit believing
we cant have health care that is affordable and that
is actually effective rather than the disaster that has been
expanded Medicaid under Obamaca.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Yeah, we're talking with Congressman Ship Roy out of Texas's
twenty first congressional district. That's because that's the fear. And
I know that the pressure is all on particularly members
of Congress. I mean I know it's really on your
all shoulders right now because you have, you know, the
recommended cuts from DOGE and then you have the executive
orders that are coming in from PTUs, and none of
this means anything unless it can be made either you know,

(01:39:35):
codify it, make it permanent. However, it has to be
done legislatively in order to give it the weight that
it needs. Otherwise it's just going to be stripped out
and be everything redone. You know, Heaven forbid if we
have a Gavin Newsom in twenty twenty eight, or if
Democrats take over the House coming up in a couple
of years, which I don't even like saying that out loud,
but that's the thing I mean there the Doge cuts,

(01:39:57):
how realistically much of that is going to be able
to be legislatively backed up? I mean up until the
time when midterms kick in, because I'm just thinking that
we only have a short period of time.

Speaker 13 (01:40:13):
The problem that we face is what I told Elon
in the VAT when he was still a part of
it before running for governor. And they came in and
met with Congress in December, and I went to the
Mikey and I ticked off all our Republican colleagues because
I looked at Elon and I said, your problem isn't
going to be finding the waste in the fraud and
the abuse and the stuff to cut. You're going to
find lots of that. Your problem is looking at you

(01:40:36):
right now. It's my colleagues, it's all of these Republicans
who run on cutting spending but yet vote for it all.
Let me give you an example USAID. Right, you've heard
about all the ridiculous programs, the thirty two thousand dollars
transgender comic book, the funding for operas and whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:40:55):
So we offered an amendment.

Speaker 13 (01:40:57):
Eli Crane, our good friend from Arizona, a great guy,
former Navy seal, Cyper superhuman. He offered amendment to cut
USAIDA in a half because we knew there were some
good programs but a lot of adlues. One hundred and
two Republicans voted for it. One hundred and fourteen Republicans
voted against it. That was in eighteen months ago, in
the fall of twenty three. I give you that as

(01:41:18):
an example of I could give you one hundreds where
Republicans will not deliver. So go to DOJ or actually
go to decisions. You've heard about recisions. The President can
set up recisions through his officite management and budget to
the Hill, and if he does so, we can pass
them with majority votes in the House. In the Senate,
it's only fifty one in the Senate. So there's rumors.

(01:41:39):
I don't have any actual backing yet, but there's rumors
that they're going to send up a recisions packaged to
cut public broadcasts PBAs et cetera. And now I'm hearing
that a bunch of Republicans are up here going ooh,
I don't know if I can do that. We've got
to save and preserve public broadcasting. This is what we're
dealing with.

Speaker 10 (01:41:55):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:41:56):
I might say we should call that bluff, but that's
what we're dealing with, which is the same way they're
going to find all of this stuff. But then Congress
has to go act. That's why you heard Elon go, well,
it's gonna be two trillion in zavs and then it
was like wow. Well then last one was like wow,
maybe one hundred and fifty to two hundred billion in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 10 (01:42:13):
Is because you.

Speaker 13 (01:42:14):
Start looking at the programs that Congress votes for and
supports so they can go back home and say I'm
giving you your free crap, and then suddenly you hit
a wall. Well guess what, ain't no free lunch. We
got to solve this problem.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Talking with Congressman chip Roy, I mean, I appreciate your
transparency on this and your forthrightness on this. I think
you're one of few people in Congress that are actually,
you know, telling it as it is. And I think
that was that. I mean, when you were just the
story that you just told, you know, telling Elon Musk
that the problem is looking at you right now? Is there?
Are we at the point and I so much of

(01:42:50):
this feels like tea party three point zero? Really are
we at the point where it's time for Republicans to
start getting I mean mean with some of these Republicans
lawmakers and I'm asking you because you're in there and
I trust your stance on it.

Speaker 13 (01:43:07):
Well, Look, I've been trying to take an approach over
the last two months of finding a way to work
together and not draw any red lines into sand. I mean,
I've certainly made some comments about what I think ought
to happen. I've certainly said that I don't think that
I could support anything and won't sport anything that's going
to increase deficits, and that you've got to balance tax policy,
economic growth, and spending cuts put in the pot and

(01:43:28):
guarantee that we're not going to increase deficits. So that's
sort of a red line. But I haven't said I
won't book board if we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Get X or Y or Z.

Speaker 13 (01:43:35):
A lot of my collegeagues are doing that, and I
think we do need to start having a really honest
conversation about it, because here's what's going to happen the movement,
the party, and even the White House. There's gonna be
a lot of movements saying we've got to get the
tax cuts extended. Right, we can't have a tax increase.
They're going to say we've got to get the border
scaredy money. And then they're going to say we've got
some spending cuts on the table and it's not everything

(01:43:57):
you wanted, but we got a lot of good stuff,
and the tax cuts will create economic growth and everything
will be great, and we'll have deficits go down. And
I'm going to be looking at the math going, I
don't believe that. I think the deficit is going to
go up, and I think we're going to see scoring
in our own math that will show that. And we're
not going to get the policy when we're not going
to get the full product elimination of the Plation Reduction
Act or whatever. There's going to be a lot of

(01:44:18):
pieces to this puzzle. And then if I'm sitting back going, guys,
I'm not going to vote to increased deficits. I'm not
going to vote for something that doesn't fully repeal these
disastrous policies like a in Plation Reduction Act, et cetera.

Speaker 10 (01:44:30):
But you're going to try to hold over my.

Speaker 13 (01:44:32):
Head that, yes, taxes might go up if we don't
do our job.

Speaker 10 (01:44:35):
That's not on me.

Speaker 13 (01:44:37):
If you're unwilling to do your job to reduce spending,
perform Medicaid and the Disasters and Place Reduction Act, do
all the things we should do, then you can't blame me.
Any tax increases are on you. And that's going to
be the fight that we're going to have over the
next couple of months. I'm trying to be respectful of
my duly elected colonies. I want to work with my colleagues,
but I wasn't sent here to increase debt. We're thirty

(01:44:59):
six trillion at a trillion dollars of interest every year
more on an interest in the national debt. If we
refinance at existing rates, it's still going to be over
a trillion growing. If we go into higher rates, which
is gonna happen, we're gonna have two, four or six
or eight trillion more in interest.

Speaker 10 (01:45:14):
We have got to deal with that. We've got to
deal with it now or we're going to lose the country.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
We will absolutely any names you want to give us now,
will take them.

Speaker 10 (01:45:22):
I'm going to hold back. I'm going to hold back
because the idea.

Speaker 13 (01:45:24):
I got to work with my colleagues to figure out
how we can get this done, and I hope that
we will do that. I want to know a lot
of people are giving their own names, are out there
in the mi're talking.

Speaker 10 (01:45:32):
About what they will won't do.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
Oh yeah, we've seen that. I wanted to ask you
about the Save Act as well, because this is you
gave an example of somebody who was literally charged with
voting by aliens, is accused of illegally voting, and the
twenty twenty election dose has been assisting this. It's an
Iraqi national. I mean, yeah, you I'm shocked that after

(01:45:54):
the election results of this passional election that Democrats are
still like mass Save Act, we don't need to prove anything,
we don't need it floors me because you think they
would at least that used to be their position ten
years ago.

Speaker 13 (01:46:06):
Yeah, I mean that just tells you the state of
the Democratic Party. I mean yeah, I think that was
in the Northern District of New York. The case you're
just referencing where you've got this guy who's a vote.
Now they're charging him, you know, for having violated the law.
And so they might say Democrats to say, look, it's working,
it's illegal, and so they're charging.

Speaker 10 (01:46:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:46:23):
But here's the thing, is a prosecutor former prosecutor, you
know I, I mean, I charged a lot of crimes,
but I certainly wasn't getting them all. There's a lot
of people out there voting.

Speaker 10 (01:46:31):
We know it. Democrats want them to vote.

Speaker 13 (01:46:33):
The same Act would simply make the system work better
by ensuring that only American citizens can resture vote. There's
a lot of ways to make sure that nobody's burdened.
We passed it out of the House. Last year. Democrats
killed it in the Senate. We passed it out of
the House this year right wore Easter with four Democrats
joining us. You know, hopefully they'll pull it up on
the floor of the Senate. I expect Chuck Schumer Democrats

(01:46:55):
to work to kill it because it's our holy gram.
They need non citizens voting to build out their electric
and to try to transform the country the image that
they see and that's the truth. Everybody knows it. They
should stop hiding. They just want non citizens to vote.
We've got the build to stop it, but unfortunately we
got to get through the sixty vote threshold in the
Senate in order to get it turned into law.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Last question for you. I know you and timber Chet
have talked about banning passing law to ban congressional stock trading.
Some of these people that walk in with like seventy
thousand dollars in their bank account and then five years
later they got twenty two million dollars. I'm not going
to say names, but I'm not talking about a Democrat,
although they're kind of the most guilty of them. I mean,
it's stunning. I can't imagine people voting against their own

(01:47:40):
interests in Congress on this.

Speaker 11 (01:47:43):
Well.

Speaker 13 (01:47:43):
It really is a stunning reality that we have members
of Congress who are so actively day trading on things
that we're voting on every single day.

Speaker 10 (01:47:50):
I think it is an inherent conpoint of interest.

Speaker 13 (01:47:52):
I don't even want to impede the motives of most
members of Congress. They come in they want to just
you know, they like every other American, they've got investments.

Speaker 10 (01:47:59):
They want to continue.

Speaker 13 (01:48:00):
You and some don't come to Congress with significant means.
But it is extraordinary how much people are voting on
things that they haven't say in on a daily basis,
or they get information they know what's happening.

Speaker 10 (01:48:10):
Might be a pharmaceutical, it.

Speaker 13 (01:48:11):
Might be a big tech company, it might be debating
on an anti trust policy, and so are you going
to vote for that and then not have that effect
your investment decisions. We have legislation that would solve that
problem and saying you got to take your dollars put
them in broadly help mutual funds, maybe a blind trust
if you want to, but the broadly help mutual puns
will be.

Speaker 10 (01:48:28):
The best solution, and that we ought to just implement that.

Speaker 13 (01:48:30):
And look, that is what it is. You'll ride and
fall with the market, and that's okay. But we've not
been able to get it onto the House floor. So
I think we're starting to get a little bit of
an itchy trigger finger myself. Timber Chett, Brian Fitzpatrick, a
more moderate number from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 10 (01:48:45):
He's a good friend and he wants to do it.

Speaker 13 (01:48:47):
There's several Democrats, including AOC, who are interested in doing it.
Except magazine or who I work with, who I don't
agree with the many things, but this is something I
think we should do to try to change the institution.

Speaker 10 (01:48:55):
For the better.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
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