Absurd Truth: The Culture of MAGA

Dana explains why it’s not cool to be Progressive anymore as MAGA has taken back the culture and why this shift has been decades in the making over things like drag shows, women’s sports and wokeism. Meanwhile, The New York Times finally admits how we were misled about the COVID pandemic origins.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Keltech.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's his laugh mission to make bad decisions. It's time
for Florida man, don't do this.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yellowstone National Park, a Florida man was injured when he
was gored by a bison, said the National Park Service,
a bison. This is the first reported incident of a
person injured by a bison and yelloist in this year.
And it only parking ain't been open for two weeks,
and immediately somebody's out there getting gourd, they said. And

(00:36):
guess why do you think it was? Because he was
minding a respectful distance from the bison. No, no, no,
he wanted to get up close and personal with it,
so he got minor injuries, was treated by emergency medical personnel.
You're told to keep. In fact, Yellowstone requires that you
keep twenty five yards away from the manimals up there,
and one hundred yards away from bears and wolves, twenty
five from all ourge animals, one hundred yards from bears

(00:59):
and wolves and bison have injured more people in Yellowstone
than any other animal. They're not aggressive, but when people
get up in their faces, yeah, nobody likes that, not
even me. I'd gore you too if I had horns.
And then in May twenty twenty four, dude kicked a
bison in the leg and guess what, it kicked him
back and injured him. And then he got arrested in
jail because he kicked a bison. Yeah, just don't be
a moron and don't like try to go up and

(01:19):
get a selfie with it. And everything's cool, right, It's
so simple. I mean, this is not hard. If a
kid tells you that there's somebody in their closet, maybe
just don't disregard it, like if you're this kid. A
Florida man was arrested because he was hiding in a
kid's bedroom closet.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
This Florida manny ran away from law enforcement, fled into
a home and hid in a kid's bedroom closet. Liberty
County Sheriff Robert Arnold deputy's got a call on Tuesday
about a suspicious person.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
The guy identified as Bobby McKenzie.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
He took off on a four wheeler and ditched it
and ran into a house and they, yeah, they found
him hiding in a child's bedroom closet and the individuals
who called it in and they said thank you to them.
The guy had worn out for aggravated assault. He also
had oh gosh, he hid a bag containing a bunch
of meth and all kinds of drug paraphernalia under the

(02:09):
kid's bed. Man, oh man, I'm telling you. A Florida
man got pulled over and then led police on a
foot chase. After they caught him, they left and said,
you thought you were Usain Bolt. You know, well, that's
that's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It is.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
They let him on a he led cops on a
foot chase through Daytona Beach. Xavier McCall, you don't need
to have an apostrophe after the X. Okay, there's literally
no need because the name is okay. I can't even
do the story. The name is x A v I
e R. The apostrophe is there to symbol symbolize the
absence of a vowel and yet connect the word. But

(02:43):
it's x A Xavier and that's how it's spelled. You
don't need an apostrophe to make your cheap, broke ass
look fancy.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Stop it.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
That's so stupid. Who named you? Your mother ought to
be arrested because she's dumb. They could not provide who
does the name like this? That's like having your name
amber and an apostrophe after the A in between the
A and M.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
They could not provide Daytona Xavier McCall with apostrophe, could
not provide Daytona Beach officers with his license. He said
he was in his grandma's vehicle. They asked him to
get off. He took off, and uh they were able
to catch him, cornered him and take him into custody
and he's in the pokey now. Uh so, uh yeah,
they go, You're not supposed to be breathing like that

(03:27):
from a short little run, dude. So clearly his cardio
was bad. I love the body cam footage when they're
chasing him too Waunston to hear there this guy was
not getting far and he and the cops are like, dude,
you're younger than us, you should be faster than this.
And one of them said that the dude smoked too
much and that's why he didn't. He didn't have good
blood circulation or cardio.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
He also thought his grandma's car all the way.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Can I just keep that keep this footage going? Doesn't
that look like the cop running. His arms are just crazy.
He he's like one of those blow up bells outside
of a car dealership like that.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
It just his arms will look mad when they're when
he's running. Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh, by the way, our Bison story came from Florida
man Keith or no listener Keith. Our Florida man. Bison's
story came from listener Keith. So thank you from that.
Let's see drunk Florida man crashes his tesla. This is
a village's story. It's a village's story. As a villager,
mah Minecraft crashed his tesla in a roundabout, of course

(04:24):
he did. And then when police came, he made up
a fictional girlfriend and said, no, it's yeah, Stacy, my
girlfriend Stacy. He literally made up a whole woman and
fabricated a name and told police that Stacy crashed his
tesla and ran away. I know. And so the man

(04:46):
after he crashed the roundabout, he flooded the village of Hawkins,
and they found sixty three year old Jeffrey Treadwell and
matched descriptions. He began blaming his girlfriend. He said, Stacy
did it. Stacy ran away after she crashed into the
and he goes, it's a girl I met in Brownwood.
Stacy's her name, and he was drinking, I mean clearly.

(05:08):
And they concluded that Stacy was completely made up. So
they booked him in Sumfer County Detention Center and he
was released on eleven hundred dollars bond.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah that's not can you imagine?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, it was Stacy that did it. Yeah, I'm going
to start using that excuse. I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Stacey did it. Stacy also crashed that car in that
roundabout down there in Florida. Do you hear about that?
Do you have about what Stacey did?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
That?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Fluzy?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, man, she's a fluzy.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
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Speaker 4 (06:35):
The Democratic Party has in some ways become too much
seen by too many Americans as the party of elites
and institutions that have failed them. If you were talking
about democracy over the dinner table, you probably didn't have
to worry about the cost of the food on that table.
Right If you had to worry about the cost of
the food on the food on your table, you're probably

(06:58):
talking about that. And so I worry that the Party
of working People, the self self styled Party of working people,
is perceived by working people as elite. And it's not
for to say distable and removed from their experience.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
So that's David Axelrod kind of giving like a postmortem
of what has gone wrong with the Democrat Party. And
I talked a little bit about this on Jesse Waters's
program last night and over at Substack, I have a
piece up about this right now. It's not cool to
be progressive anymore. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash
with you bottom of this second hour. Now, keep in

(07:40):
mind that when I say when I'm talking about progressive progressivism,
because I asked this question on X last night and
I am fascinated by the responses to this. I asked,
when do you think progressivism became uncool? And by uncool,
what I mean is, and you know this, everyone and

(08:01):
every thing that was considered included and our cultural zeitgeist
was liberal slash progressive, like Reagan ruined the world, were
liberal for liberals, so now they changed it progressive, Hollywood, art, academics,
all of it. In order to be seen in those

(08:24):
industries or be considered of influence in those industries, you
have to be from the left right.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
That's just the nature.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's something you all except you know that if you're
not that you would But if you were to watch
the oscars, you know that it's going to be all
leftist stuff, right, That's just the way it is. So
that's that was accepted. It was always considered cool, right.
The left was always portrayed as being the quote unquote
open minded or intellectual and deep thinking kind of movement.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
They wanted the veneer of classical liberalism while being illiberal themselves.
So that's what I mean when I say cool. Not
like anyone thought they were hip or anything like that,
but that's what I mean by this. And I was
thinking about this last night because I read.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
This piece.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Over at where's it at. It's the Wall Street Journal,
and it was called, quote how MAGA is taking back
the culture and the subhead is in sports, entertainment and marketing,
displays of conservatism are crowding out progressive postures and an

(09:41):
interesting piece and I cited it and my substep piece
that I sent out to all of you subscribers yesterday.
So like, for instance, this is what the article says.
Instead of taking a knee to call for social justice,
NFL players are now doing the Trump dance in the
end zone of football games. Mainstream entertainers, among them the
country singer Carrie Underwood, and even rapper Snoop Dogg agreed

(10:04):
to perform at events celebrating Donald Trump's inauguration, something the
Wall Street Journal ads music stars largely shunned eight years ago.
A new generation of Trump friendly comedians and wellness influencers
are populating YouTube and other social media, while a snippet
of audio featuring Baron and Mulaney has become one of

(10:24):
the hottest online memes, and celebrities such as Paris Hilton
and brands including Frontier Airlines use it in their TikTok
and Instagram posts. And I was thinking about this, I'm like, so,
think about how hard the left had to work to

(10:46):
go at Trump and make him look toxic. Like it
was very contrived, and it took all of the left,
and it took all of their influence in academia, and
it took all of Hollywood and all of the film
industry and the music industry and everybody in the media, magazines.

(11:08):
You know, it doesn't matter if it was in news
media could be vogue. It took all of these people colluded.
They all worked together this contrived hatred for not just
Trump but the right. And look how fast it dissipated
after the election. Look at how quickly. Look how quickly

(11:28):
that is. That's the other aspect of this that is
so fascinating to me. It entirely dissipated after the election,
except for maybe a few strongholds within the left right.
And they made an entire industry out of fomenting hate

(11:48):
for Trump and for the right, an entire industry. And
then when voters got the chance to choose between normal
and backcrap crazy, they choose normal. They chose normal. That
it was the normy election, right. They wanted normal prices,

(12:08):
normal lives, normal bills, normal problems, normal things, a normal society,
a normal world. They weren't asking for the world. They
just wanted normalcy. It's all they wanted. You had democrats
like James Carville. To his credit, now, I think he's

(12:30):
wrong about so many things, but he's not unreasonable. I
think he plays up the nastiness for the base sometimes.
But he was sounding the alarm on this forever ago.
And we played those audio soundbites on air, and you
just heard David Axelrod.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
David Axelrod started about a.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Year or so ago warning about well, wait a minute,
do the radicals know what they're what they're going to
get if they keep pushing this, because they were watching
voter enthusiasm, They were watching voter turnout amongst the left
for mid terms, in the municipal elections and things like that,

(13:08):
and they were also watching the coalition dwindle. You might remember,
I think it was ten years ago, No, I think
it was longer than ten years ago, when republic when
Democrats changed their plan, they changed their platform. They used
to have pro life Democrats in the Democrat Party. You
used to have Democrats like Zell Miller, even like Joe

(13:34):
Manchin who's now an independent Kirsten Cinema. They are actually
considered moderates now because the party went so far ideologically
left that they ran out even mildly pro life Democrats.
They would primary pro life Democrats. There were certain issues

(13:58):
that Democrats would allow for disagreement on so long as
they came together on everything else. The eighty twenty right.
But something happened and they changed their platform and they
ran them out. They began going after them. They wanted
complete and total, total ideological and cultural hegemony. They wanted

(14:23):
everything to be uniform, no daylight. Contrast that with what
you've seen from the right just in the past eight years,
maybe a little longer. It's caustant problems that aren't you know, huge,
but it's been a very kind of tricky to navigate.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
And it is a burgeoning coalition that the.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Right created where you have the old school evangelical Republicans
that are sitting next to you know, maybe libertarian folks
or shaved head you know, they call them freaks probably
back in the day, you know, like alternative type people
who agree with them on eighty percent but maybe not
on twenty percent. So there's this like very interesting coalition

(15:10):
that they've that the right has been able to create.
And the left used to be the valedictorians at making
coalitions and now it's like they don't even know how
to anymore. And now it's the right when you start.
That helped to normalize a lot of the things that
the right wanted to do. So I asked this yesterday,

(15:31):
I'm like, when did progressivism become uncool? Because they were,
as I said in the beginning, I don't mean like
cool like you think it's said.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I mean they were the standard.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Ideology for all of art, film, music, everything, And I
don't know if it was when women started wearing pink
knitted vaginal hats, or when Hillary Clinton tried to pretend
that she was down with Black America by having hot
sauce in her bag, or as someone suggested, maybe it

(16:01):
was when they tried to mentally force feed kids trans
ideology in the most inappropriate and uncomfortable of ways. Or
maybe it was when they made everyone stay indoors for
two years and wear useless masks and inject themselves with
experimental non vaccines that were actually more therapeutic because they
didn't provide any immunity at all whatsoever, and they send

(16:24):
people to jail for trying to pay their bills. Or
maybe it's when they stopped being able to take a
joke and they chose to be constantly offended all the time.
Or maybe it's when they started writing and burning things down.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I don't know. I do know.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think the epitaph of cool progressivism ended with Kamala Harris.
I think she's the epitaph of it. When they sent
her on podcasts with people she didn't even know because
they were trying to get her to plant her flag
and the cultural sphere, and she fell on her face

(17:05):
one of the great answers I got a listener and
no Ziegler said, quote when their policy preferences shifted from
focusing on intangible, intellectual things like pushing welfare and taxing
the ridge to public displays of men dressed as women,
kids watching drag, men competing against women. That's a really

(17:26):
good point, like gamer git smearing masculinity, mocking traditionally American values.
People got so tired of this NonStop grievance industry. Nobody
likes a person who's always negative or combative or perpetually
looking for offense. They don't like that, and it doesn't
matter if it's political or not. So this has been

(17:47):
a shift decades in the making. Some of the answers
that I got, and there were hundreds of them, are
so good. Like someone said, when they started being more
for war than peace, that was one of the responses
I got. When they came after the kids, when they

(18:07):
came after sports, when they stopped talking about the issues
that mattered to Americans and began focusing on the issues
that only mattered to Hollywood. Was one answer someone said
when they left the blue collar voter behind. I thought
that was very interesting too, because remember that was another
thing that Democrats used to be known for.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
And then I love the answers from some people who
were like, well, it was never cool from my perspective,
and again I'm talking about like generally society. They it
was very, very interesting responses. I wanted to play this
if we have time really quickly. Put Booty Juice his
audio on this. This was sorry audio sound by thirteen.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Listen a little bit of that even you described in
it was a caricature of everything that's wrong with our
ability both to cohere as a party and to reach
to those who don't always agree with us. And we
cannot go on like that. We cannot. I also think
that we believe in the values that we care about
for a reason, and this is not about abandoning those values.
It's about making sure we're in touch with the first
principles that animate. What do we mean when we talk

(19:13):
about diversity. Is it caring for people's different experiences and
making sure no one's mistreated because of them, which I
will always fight for. Or is it making people sit
through a training that looks like something out of Portlandia,
which I have also experienced, And it is how it
is how Trump Republicans are made. If that comes to
your workplace with the best of intentions.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I will say, now he's repeating stuff that Carville has said.
But you have to remember because they were saying that
they want their party back, like they got to take
their party back. And I'm like, for what, like to
what like the Zygote stage of insane illiberal, anti science
Marxism'm like, what do you mean back to what?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Because nobody's there.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
All the people, most everybody left, they became independents or
they went and voted for Trump. These are operatives that
used far left act divists as pawns for the Democrat Party.
They needed agitators when it came time to get out
the vote, but they messed up because they were determined
to keep these agitators happy, and so they placated them
so they could use them in the future. So they

(20:12):
adopted their stances, they enshrined them in the Democrat Party,
and they adopted them and made their issues part of
their platform. So they're part of this problem. David Axelrod
was part of the Valerie Jarrett orchestration of Obama Biden.
Most of the original Democrats are gone. Democrats use judgment
and harassment to keep members in line, and the right

(20:35):
makes everybody focus on the eighty twenty rule. Last quick
thing on this. I love this point that a listener made.
They said, quote, it was never cool because it was
never progressive. It has always been about regressive. It never
moves society forward. It's always been about breaking society. I
think that's exactly right, because it was exactly that. I

(21:00):
mean progress where progress with what bigger government wore, taxes,
more border chaos, everyone on prescription drugs.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Like what.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
It was about breaking society because it was only ever
a Marxist counter to the conservation of individual liberty, which
is what conservatism is. And it nearly damn near did
break society. But people woke up and they looked around
and they voted accordingly. I don't know how the rest
of the story is going to go, but I know
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(25:12):
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face over I really could. I know that you guys

(25:32):
saw this, The audacity of this piece from the New
York Times quote, we were badly misled about the event
that changed our lives, they said, we were badly misled.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Of course, it's about coronavirus. The woohoo.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Here is an actual sentence from this New York Times piece.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yet, in twenty twenty, when people started specy that a
laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the
COVID nineteen pandemic. They were treated like cooks and cranks. Okay,
who treated us like cooks and cranks? The media hue

(26:18):
the left in the media, same thing the media the media,
and obviously it has been unraveled, and now the media
wants to claim that they were misled. We were badly
misled about the origin when you were leading the witch

(26:40):
hunt against all of the people who were raising concerns
about this. The New York Times now needs to separate
itself from this. I mean they literally had headlines where
they were besmirching good people who are asking questions about

(27:01):
the origin. They were asking questions about cover ups, They
were asking questions about all of this, and now they
want to play victim.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
They anybody who.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Actually questioned the narrative that we were given in the
press and asked about any kind of zoonotic origins, they
were treated like witch doctors.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
They were treated.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Like I.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Just they were persona on Grada. They can't be allowed
into the conversation, and not even on the origin. I mean,
they went after people like doctor Robert Malone that we
had on doctor Tess Laurie.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
We had our videos pulled.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
From YouTube, censored because we asked questions on this program.
I mean, it's it was censorship, and we know it
was censorship at the highest levels. And now they want
to act as though that, oh, well we you know,

(28:12):
we were misled. We're see we got duped too. That's
how they're I feel like they're they're trying to act
like you. No, we're victims like you. We were so misled.
You know, what's next? Like, we were so misled. You know,
women can't actually be men and men can't have babies.

(28:32):
We were so misled, Like what's next.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, you heard what they did with the vaccine that
the media was even putting out. Well, no one was
forced to take the VAXX. Nobody was forced.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
They weren't.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
But here's this headline. Senator Tom Cotton repeats fringe theory
of coronavirus origins. If you looked up like fringe and
coronavirus in the New York Times and there and their
search option, I mean, there's so many headlines that pop
up over that. I mean, and this was a legitimate
and taking something now that we accept as truth because

(29:04):
the evidence supports it. Everybody had evidentiary based suspicions in
the beginning that were immediately discounted in favor of the
political narrative that they wanted to spend, that they wanted
to spend, and for them to try to write on
this and act like, oh, we were you weren't misled.
You misled. People were your reporters. And this goes back

(29:25):
to what we opened the program with.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
You are the media.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Your job is to your entire the purpose of your
existence is to question government, is to question elected officials,
is to question bureaucrats. That's your entire existence. If there
was misleading, you misled, you weren't misled. You just swallowed

(29:53):
it and took it at face value because it was
easier for your political body inline to do so. They
didn't want to fall out of favor with the powers
that be by asking questions. That's what the left does,
and the left is, you know, the media is part
of it. They don't ask questions anymore. Merely asking a

(30:14):
question is a sign of betrayal. Someone is not accepting
the narrative. They're not swallowing their narrative pill they're asking
a question. That means they're not on the same page.
Thus they are the enemy. That's how it's viewed. So
questions aren't even allowed. There's no intellectual curiosity. Whatever they

(30:34):
said went, and you are to accept it now now,
because it doesn't cost any political capital for them, they
they can act like, oh, yeah, we're one of you,
we're questioning this. We were all misled. No, you misled people.
We were the people that you tried to mislead, and
when you couldn't mislead us, you wanted to impugne our

(30:58):
characters and thereby taint any kind of association in the
minds of anyone else that was still maybe making up
their minds. I mean, they went after the best doctors
in the world, the best medical experts, the best professionals.
They persecuted the media, story after story about these people.

(31:19):
Now they want to act like they're one of us. No,
you don't get to do that. Badly misled, spare me
with all of this. There's that's what I think that
that exchange was a very good exchange. And I like
Levitt's response. You're the reporter, that's your job. You investigate
this stuff. Why the bigger question is why isn't the
press interested in investigating things from the government. Remember like

(31:46):
the olden days of the old gumshoe reporter.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's gone.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Nobody wants to ask those questions anymore. Everybody just wants
a stupid, insipid hot take. They want a part of
that attention economy, but they don't care about investigating anything.
You know why, Partly because there's no rewards in it.
There's no rewards in it. The only reason The New
York Times is doing this now is to save their asps.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
They're they're trying to act like, oh no, no, we're
still reputationally clean. You can still trust us, you can
still subscribe, but we know that it's they were part
of the problem.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Thanks for tuning in to today's edition of Dana Lash's
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