March 1, 2024 • 12 mins
Aaron Wilson joins the guys in the last hour of the show in talks of this years 2024 NFL Combine. Aaron shares what's the biggest need for the Texans this free agency and, who the Texans may be eyeing prior to free agency beginning. With a few big names mentioned, who will become a Texan next?
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(00:02):
Sulby. Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury, The USC Truths,
longtime friend, Seawn Salisbury, BryanLima, go Lobo, this is the
Sean Salsbury Show. Aaron. Beforewe get to combine, let me ask
(00:26):
you, if you just on yourgut or you're through your study in preparation,
what is the number one priority forthe Texans in free agency? I
would say beyond the obvious of thedefensive in position because they have a difficult,
expensive financial decision to make long timethan Gernard. It's what they do
(00:50):
at running back. I think thatoverrides everything because they really have made it
up with emphasize how much they wouldlike to upgrade the running game. You
saw the running game faltered in theplayoffs. I think that was one of
the factors in the loss of theBaltimore Ravens. So the running back sweepstakes,
which is the talk of the combine, where are these guys going to
(01:11):
go With so many good running backsavailable and Texans still needing, you know,
to find some running backs. Theyhave two on the roster. They
really need to find a way topiece this together. I would say running
back even more than linebacker or cornerdepending on you know, what happens with
(01:34):
some of these negotiations. And theyare inactive talks with several of their own
free agentcy on. It's just amatter of when these deals percolate, I
would say to all the fans outthere, because then there's a lot of
anxiousness. It is very early.Free agency goes up again, you know,
for over another week. And theproperty here mostly is the Casio's met
(01:57):
with several of the rivers in thisfor their own free agents, and of
course the college football players, andyou know with the Combine, and that's
the biggest reason is an NFL conventionessentially here in Indianapolis. Aaron Wilson joins
us as he does every week onFriday, he's at the Combine and great
to have him with us. Allright, Before I get to this running
(02:20):
back then, I want to goback to Jonathan Grenard. Part of their
priority is you know, getting morephysical and stout upfront and having disruptors and
people who can quite quite frankly wreckgames at the defensive front. And everybody
needs that. So if you havea guy that's improved and is a natural
sack guy, is it only money? Why wouldn't you, because if you
(02:42):
let him go, you got togo out and find another one. What
would be the reason Jonathan Garnard isnot back here? It comes back to
price. Just you still just becauseyou like the player's production, he has
to hit do anything in the vacuum. You have to evaluate him compared to
the other free agents, and he'sone of the top guys, and they
do have mutual interest in bringing himback. What we don't know is what's
(03:07):
behind dur number two Donoma three.Most of the teams here do not talk
prices, even with their own guys. They also don't there's a rule generally
followed or just basically don't tip yourhand. So anyone that says then maybe
a negotiation like a sink one Barkleywith the Giants and they tagle over price.
(03:29):
They don't really know. And untilyou have the other teams during the
legal tampering period, So is JonathanGnard. What if the Texans hypothetically gave
him seventeen or eighteen million a year, but someone else will pay twenty one
or twenty Okay, well, ifthere's a separation of a couple million dollars
(03:50):
per year, do the math ifthe players are walking away from eight to
ten million dollars over the total valueof the deal, well they have to
take the other deal. You know, there's I always hear about hometown discounts.
I don't put off Stout in thatit is tough. He doesn't want
to come back. He really doesnot want to leave. And we'll see
how much the Texans want to keepthem. I would say, you know,
(04:15):
with Jonathan, the durability is theonly real dag on him. But
he had great years. He wasvery dynamic, and this is something that
they would like to try to getdone. We want to see how realistic
it is. As talk feed upmore next week and during the final days
heating into the start of free agency. All right, Aaron, get all
things being equal with the running backposition, let's just say price. Let's
(04:39):
say all of them are probably thatthe top three or four or five were
priced at the same price. Youknow, the names in your study and
in your with your insight in yoursources, who would be first, second,
and third on the list in orderif the price was the same.
Great question, I'd say, SikonBarkley, the headliner of the free agent
(05:01):
class. As I've reported he wouldlike to be a Texan. It's not
just him hitting like on Instagram andfollowing people like take now CJ Stroud.
He has message with CJ Stroud.It's mutual. CJ is allowed to do
that. That's not temporary. He'sa player you can recruit. And I
(05:21):
would say after that, you know, you look at the list. You
know there's a lot of good backs. You know, don Very Swift.
I think what's at the offense verywell. I think that Josh Shakins will
be a better fit. But andof course Derrick Henry gets any scheme.
But I've heard Derek they wind upwith Baltimore Ravens. So that's a special
(05:45):
team to watch for the Juggernaut DerrickHenry and with Saquon he's in talks with
the Giants and we'll see if theycan get something done. If he even
makes it to Pree agency, Isee a different I see different scenarios for
them. Actually, Motor Singletary,who had a nice season, and another
back for the price of what couldbe Markley, perhaps you'd have Motor Singletary
(06:13):
and DeAndre Swift. That's the scenariothat I've heard rumored about here at the
NFL scouting codline. There are alot of backs you know on their list,
and a lot of these other backsyou hear about Austin Eckler, hear
about him more with another teams thannot links so much to the Texans.
I think, you know, it'spretty fluid, but you know, I
(06:35):
don't know if the sake one thingis going to happen. I think that
more of a combination of the twobacks is something that seemed pretty palatable.
They really want motorback, and youtell the enthusiasm those comments from Gimik Rants
in make Cio. Yeah, wetalked about that earlier. I said,
in my perfect world would be goingand getting one in free agency where the
price fit and who fit into thissystem, and bringing Singletary back at a
(06:59):
smaller price that you know he's goingto cost less than the Barclays or the
Swifts are, and having him andhaving two of them because you're going to
need two. So with that,let's move to the draft. Aaron Wilson
joins us at Aaron Wilson on Twitter, our go to guy every Friday during
the season and as often as wecan and he can in the off season.
At the twenty third pick, andare they a best available or are
(07:26):
they a need guy at twenty three. It's tough to know what need's going
to be there at twenty three,but will it be a need or best
available at that point? I thinkthey're going to best available value you that
gets a position need. So wedon't know if half of that beast forty
yard ashes chop robins are going tobe around right. Maybe does, But
(07:47):
what about the Missouri concersionarious probles?What about various shops? What if you
had a scenario where you could pickthe best quarter you What if it's Quinnian
Mitchell for what if scuber Desine fromIowa strouled? What if you see two
sliding opportunities on a linebacker off theball that you like, like Peyton Wilson
(08:11):
at four four Three's a big guy, has said some injury dings. He
needs he more of a Day twoguy? Is he in there? Round
one? They met with Quinny andMitchell from Toledo. They met with all
the top corners, so they seeme be in on Terry and Arnold and
Kuli McKinstry. I think Arnold's betterthan him. I can see Quarterer especially
(08:37):
seeing what happens with Steven Nelson andhow they handle free agency. So that
is something where I think it's tobe determined. But to me, it's
not just well, we got tohave one. We need one, so
we're doing this. But I've hada lot of people something they can see
them drafting a corner to go withtheir extinguished Even if you done and Nelson
(09:00):
thirty one, maybe it's ti theplan ahead for the future and you know,
get ready for what's gonna happen withtheir extinly headings hoard a big contract
in the future in my opinion forthe Texans once he's eligible to sign one,
and then having some flexibility adding somelayers to the defense. But yeah,
(09:20):
off football, lundbacker, defensive end, corner, even at D tackle.
We don't know if Shendy Racers comingback. I think they all make
a lot of sense. But ifI'm a betting man, I would bet
it's gonna be a defensive player,all right, And we're gonna win next
week when we cover when you canhopefully next week we'll get a whole rap
of this combine and get your ideasof what you thought stood out. But
(09:41):
let me let me end with this. You're my head coach or my GM,
and I'm talking to you and Iask you and you got to come
clean. I want you to fillin the blank for me. The Houston
Texans are a super Bowl contender whenthey blank this, when they do what?
When they become a team that hasa running game that people are as
(10:07):
concerned about as CJ's child's arm andaccuracy, when they truly are a two
dimensional offense, that's where I thinkthey can become a team at least and
you're thinking about can they get thechampionship game? Can they get to the
super Bowl? That's what And obviouslyyou have to pass the Kansas City Chiefs
in this conference, which is notall order, which is taller. You
(10:31):
have a team that you know they'reclose, but even to be as competitive
last year, he makes a lotof good moves this offseason acting the Assaria
Will. I think he's growing moreand more comfortable in the job. I
sent a lot of confidence from Nickand less tension. He can even kind
(10:56):
of feel it in the interviews.He's very relaxed and we'll fun with it.
And he has been we see himall over Indianapolis meeting with people,
talking with people, and you're verylike gregarious by his standards. Nick Caserio,
I just see kind of a growthin him as a general manager.
(11:20):
And that's parta's winning and being happywith the Hank coach he works with.
That's a big thing that can't beunderstated. Is after David Kelly, after
Lovely Smith. Now Nick feels likehe has a true partner. And Nico
Lyons and their collaboration. I thinkthe way they see football, they're really
and mock stuff. Loving that changesthings. Love it, great stuff.
(11:43):
Get yourself to Saint Elmo's and graba steak. You know all about that
place, all right, So youhave a great one and we'll look forward
to it. Great work and welook forward to continuing to talk to you.
Thanks for your insight, Brother,Appreciate Youks so appreciate you. That's
a great aeron Wilson. We'll comeback and discuss. I like where he's
going. Their best of available atthe value in the draft and running back
apparently has become the free agent focus. At least it starts that way.
(12:09):
Sports Talk seven ninety
Sulby. Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury, The USC Truths,
longtime friend, Seawn Salisbury, BryanLima, go Lobo, this is the
Sean Salsbury Show. Aaron. Beforewe get to combine, let me ask
(00:26):
you, if you just on yourgut or you're through your study in preparation,
what is the number one priority forthe Texans in free agency? I
would say beyond the obvious of thedefensive in position because they have a difficult,
expensive financial decision to make long timethan Gernard. It's what they do
(00:50):
at running back. I think thatoverrides everything because they really have made it
up with emphasize how much they wouldlike to upgrade the running game. You
saw the running game faltered in theplayoffs. I think that was one of
the factors in the loss of theBaltimore Ravens. So the running back sweepstakes,
which is the talk of the combine, where are these guys going to
(01:11):
go With so many good running backsavailable and Texans still needing, you know,
to find some running backs. Theyhave two on the roster. They
really need to find a way topiece this together. I would say running
back even more than linebacker or cornerdepending on you know, what happens with
(01:34):
some of these negotiations. And theyare inactive talks with several of their own
free agentcy on. It's just amatter of when these deals percolate, I
would say to all the fans outthere, because then there's a lot of
anxiousness. It is very early.Free agency goes up again, you know,
for over another week. And theproperty here mostly is the Casio's met
(01:57):
with several of the rivers in thisfor their own free agents, and of
course the college football players, andyou know with the Combine, and that's
the biggest reason is an NFL conventionessentially here in Indianapolis. Aaron Wilson joins
us as he does every week onFriday, he's at the Combine and great
to have him with us. Allright, Before I get to this running
(02:20):
back then, I want to goback to Jonathan Grenard. Part of their
priority is you know, getting morephysical and stout upfront and having disruptors and
people who can quite quite frankly wreckgames at the defensive front. And everybody
needs that. So if you havea guy that's improved and is a natural
sack guy, is it only money? Why wouldn't you, because if you
(02:42):
let him go, you got togo out and find another one. What
would be the reason Jonathan Garnard isnot back here? It comes back to
price. Just you still just becauseyou like the player's production, he has
to hit do anything in the vacuum. You have to evaluate him compared to
the other free agents, and he'sone of the top guys, and they
do have mutual interest in bringing himback. What we don't know is what's
(03:07):
behind dur number two Donoma three.Most of the teams here do not talk
prices, even with their own guys. They also don't there's a rule generally
followed or just basically don't tip yourhand. So anyone that says then maybe
a negotiation like a sink one Barkleywith the Giants and they tagle over price.
(03:29):
They don't really know. And untilyou have the other teams during the
legal tampering period, So is JonathanGnard. What if the Texans hypothetically gave
him seventeen or eighteen million a year, but someone else will pay twenty one
or twenty Okay, well, ifthere's a separation of a couple million dollars
(03:50):
per year, do the math ifthe players are walking away from eight to
ten million dollars over the total valueof the deal, well they have to
take the other deal. You know, there's I always hear about hometown discounts.
I don't put off Stout in thatit is tough. He doesn't want
to come back. He really doesnot want to leave. And we'll see
how much the Texans want to keepthem. I would say, you know,
(04:15):
with Jonathan, the durability is theonly real dag on him. But
he had great years. He wasvery dynamic, and this is something that
they would like to try to getdone. We want to see how realistic
it is. As talk feed upmore next week and during the final days
heating into the start of free agency. All right, Aaron, get all
things being equal with the running backposition, let's just say price. Let's
(04:39):
say all of them are probably thatthe top three or four or five were
priced at the same price. Youknow, the names in your study and
in your with your insight in yoursources, who would be first, second,
and third on the list in orderif the price was the same.
Great question, I'd say, SikonBarkley, the headliner of the free agent
(05:01):
class. As I've reported he wouldlike to be a Texan. It's not
just him hitting like on Instagram andfollowing people like take now CJ Stroud.
He has message with CJ Stroud.It's mutual. CJ is allowed to do
that. That's not temporary. He'sa player you can recruit. And I
(05:21):
would say after that, you know, you look at the list. You
know there's a lot of good backs. You know, don Very Swift.
I think what's at the offense verywell. I think that Josh Shakins will
be a better fit. But andof course Derrick Henry gets any scheme.
But I've heard Derek they wind upwith Baltimore Ravens. So that's a special
(05:45):
team to watch for the Juggernaut DerrickHenry and with Saquon he's in talks with
the Giants and we'll see if theycan get something done. If he even
makes it to Pree agency, Isee a different I see different scenarios for
them. Actually, Motor Singletary,who had a nice season, and another
back for the price of what couldbe Markley, perhaps you'd have Motor Singletary
(06:13):
and DeAndre Swift. That's the scenariothat I've heard rumored about here at the
NFL scouting codline. There are alot of backs you know on their list,
and a lot of these other backsyou hear about Austin Eckler, hear
about him more with another teams thannot links so much to the Texans.
I think, you know, it'spretty fluid, but you know, I
(06:35):
don't know if the sake one thingis going to happen. I think that
more of a combination of the twobacks is something that seemed pretty palatable.
They really want motorback, and youtell the enthusiasm those comments from Gimik Rants
in make Cio. Yeah, wetalked about that earlier. I said,
in my perfect world would be goingand getting one in free agency where the
price fit and who fit into thissystem, and bringing Singletary back at a
(06:59):
smaller price that you know he's goingto cost less than the Barclays or the
Swifts are, and having him andhaving two of them because you're going to
need two. So with that,let's move to the draft. Aaron Wilson
joins us at Aaron Wilson on Twitter, our go to guy every Friday during
the season and as often as wecan and he can in the off season.
At the twenty third pick, andare they a best available or are
(07:26):
they a need guy at twenty three. It's tough to know what need's going
to be there at twenty three,but will it be a need or best
available at that point? I thinkthey're going to best available value you that
gets a position need. So wedon't know if half of that beast forty
yard ashes chop robins are going tobe around right. Maybe does, But
(07:47):
what about the Missouri concersionarious probles?What about various shops? What if you
had a scenario where you could pickthe best quarter you What if it's Quinnian
Mitchell for what if scuber Desine fromIowa strouled? What if you see two
sliding opportunities on a linebacker off theball that you like, like Peyton Wilson
(08:11):
at four four Three's a big guy, has said some injury dings. He
needs he more of a Day twoguy? Is he in there? Round
one? They met with Quinny andMitchell from Toledo. They met with all
the top corners, so they seeme be in on Terry and Arnold and
Kuli McKinstry. I think Arnold's betterthan him. I can see Quarterer especially
(08:37):
seeing what happens with Steven Nelson andhow they handle free agency. So that
is something where I think it's tobe determined. But to me, it's
not just well, we got tohave one. We need one, so
we're doing this. But I've hada lot of people something they can see
them drafting a corner to go withtheir extinguished Even if you done and Nelson
(09:00):
thirty one, maybe it's ti theplan ahead for the future and you know,
get ready for what's gonna happen withtheir extinly headings hoard a big contract
in the future in my opinion forthe Texans once he's eligible to sign one,
and then having some flexibility adding somelayers to the defense. But yeah,
(09:20):
off football, lundbacker, defensive end, corner, even at D tackle.
We don't know if Shendy Racers comingback. I think they all make
a lot of sense. But ifI'm a betting man, I would bet
it's gonna be a defensive player,all right, And we're gonna win next
week when we cover when you canhopefully next week we'll get a whole rap
of this combine and get your ideasof what you thought stood out. But
(09:41):
let me let me end with this. You're my head coach or my GM,
and I'm talking to you and Iask you and you got to come
clean. I want you to fillin the blank for me. The Houston
Texans are a super Bowl contender whenthey blank this, when they do what?
When they become a team that hasa running game that people are as
(10:07):
concerned about as CJ's child's arm andaccuracy, when they truly are a two
dimensional offense, that's where I thinkthey can become a team at least and
you're thinking about can they get thechampionship game? Can they get to the
super Bowl? That's what And obviouslyyou have to pass the Kansas City Chiefs
in this conference, which is notall order, which is taller. You
(10:31):
have a team that you know they'reclose, but even to be as competitive
last year, he makes a lotof good moves this offseason acting the Assaria
Will. I think he's growing moreand more comfortable in the job. I
sent a lot of confidence from Nickand less tension. He can even kind
(10:56):
of feel it in the interviews.He's very relaxed and we'll fun with it.
And he has been we see himall over Indianapolis meeting with people,
talking with people, and you're verylike gregarious by his standards. Nick Caserio,
I just see kind of a growthin him as a general manager.
(11:20):
And that's parta's winning and being happywith the Hank coach he works with.
That's a big thing that can't beunderstated. Is after David Kelly, after
Lovely Smith. Now Nick feels likehe has a true partner. And Nico
Lyons and their collaboration. I thinkthe way they see football, they're really
and mock stuff. Loving that changesthings. Love it, great stuff.
(11:43):
Get yourself to Saint Elmo's and graba steak. You know all about that
place, all right, So youhave a great one and we'll look forward
to it. Great work and welook forward to continuing to talk to you.
Thanks for your insight, Brother,Appreciate Youks so appreciate you. That's
a great aeron Wilson. We'll comeback and discuss. I like where he's
going. Their best of available atthe value in the draft and running back
apparently has become the free agent focus. At least it starts that way.
(12:09):
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