April 25, 2024 • 11 mins
Taking on the Cubs for their second game of the series, the Astros fall short yet again in a 4-3 loss in Chicago. Following the loss, they're now 7-18 and have now finally made changes to the lineup in question. Sean and Brian discuss who's a better fit in the lineup, Jake Meyers or Mauricio Dubon?
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(00:01):
Sean Salisbury. Brian, this isthis Sean Salisbury show on Sports Talk seven
ninety. When you're asked to getit under a minute, have your built
in time clock, quickness and brevity. Bingo. Let's go, Jonathan,
You're up first, John, thepressure. Appreciate you. Yeah, we
(00:24):
all operate under pressure. Jonathan,show us your stuff, dude, let
him hang. Let's do that,Okay, driving up, driving up to
Dallas. You got to help mecut pavement. Thank you very much.
It's a little bit of a differenttake. I just want to hear what
you guys have to say, becauseI totally think you are right. I'm
not disagreeing with playing Devil's advocate.We are not the coaches, and we
(00:45):
do not see what goes on atpractice. We don't see what some of
these guys that are struggling are stillable to do in practice in their talent
level. And Bryan, you coached, Sewn, you played and coached,
and I coached, and so Ijust wonder sometimes is that you just kind
of know deep down that that thatguy that struggles will probably use you better
shot percentage wise. That's number oneand number two. Quite frankly, these
guys are paid millions of dollars toknow what they're doing, and they probably
(01:08):
know what everybody is calling in thatdoesn't know, and you talk about all
the time, Sean. And sothe last little thing I'll say is that
we're calling to hang up and here, what do you guys have to say?
Though? Later? Thank you Johns, Jonathan and listen. And we've
said a million times they are inall sports, We're allowed, everybody's allowed
their opinion. They're experts and theygot hired because they're specialists that just like
(01:32):
somebody is in sales in their job, or as an engineer and their job.
I can have an opinion on engineering, but I wouldn't know how to
put what they do together. Yeah, it makes sense, but the opinion,
And to be honest with you,I don't think the opinion of what
we said, like about Dubon andVictor Kartini, I don't think that has
anything to do with practice the game. I want gamers to me it reeks
(01:53):
of these two guys are better attheir position right now and now the spring
training is over. In truth,Jonathan, unlike others sports where you practice
in between like football for a week, they don't really practice. You come
back in, take a little battingpractice and fielding practice. The hardcore practice
is over. They want you offyour feet on the day off, right,
So they're not really getting a chanceto compete like you would at a
(02:14):
football practice. Hey, we gotfour practices for the next game. Let's
see what you do during nine onseven and team and blitz pickup. This
is game related once spring training isover, and performance not potentially related.
So you're right though they know morethan we do, but it still doesn't
mean that they know more that they'remaking the right decision based on what they
need to do. Because in truth, if the you don't need analytics to
(02:36):
tell you do bonds an everyday player, you just don't need analytics to take
it's obvious. I guess analytics theevidence, the results are showing it,
and Carotini's proven right now, andit's okay to adjust and go back.
It's not saying that their failures asplayers or a manager for making that decision.
So, Jonathan, I'm in totalagreement with you, and that's why
they get paid that money to managethem and the rest of it. But
(02:57):
from a distance and sometimes for usand you, Jonathan or anybody that calls
in here, we look at adifferent perspective because we're not in that arena
fighting with them every day, andwe may be able to give a different
perspective. I know this. Wewanted Bregman in the two hole and Yourdan
in the three hole, and Tuckerin the four hole, and Diaz in
the five hole and Painting in thesix hole. And I'll be damned not
that they're listening. Does and askingDane Brown, is there a sense of
(03:20):
urgency to change this lineup? Hesays, I think you're going to see
some changes. And it happened overnight. Well not even overnight, happened a
few hours later, So I thinkthey see it as well. But the
Dubon Carotina thing, they need moreat bats. They're just better right now.
It doesn't mean you're tied into it, and it's a life sentence that
a Brave's never getting back in thelineup. But right now, and especially
when you're in a chase mode,you got to put your best nine out
(03:44):
there. And I don't think there'sany argument that Kartini and Dubon are better
than the guys who are running outthere right now. Yeah. Great point
by Jonathan. They should be playing. Yep, Andy, you're up next.
What's going on? Potential in practicedoesn't mean nothing if you can't produce
in real games. Yeah, Iwant gamers. I want gamers. Yeah,
me too. That's right. Sothat's yeah, that's yeah. So
real quick, we all we wewe said Dubon should have been mccarmick,
(04:08):
should have been started at the year. Oh my gosh, Andy, give
us a shower back. We gotall kinds of issus over here. Give
us a shower back. That voicechanged. It went from it was like
for robotic after Wow, it waslike it was like, you know how
somebody you know, somebody when they'relike on a movie, the hostage caller,
they did that voice. Thing thatchanged? Is that talking is normal?
Yeah? That was random. Thatwas crazy. What was going on
(04:32):
except one to three he was onthe right page of It's pretty easy to
see. Let's try this again,Andy, good morning. Yeah, okay,
real quick. I love the lineup. What Sean's saying. That's
what we kind of said at thebeginning year besides Katrina, But we knew
Brak if he started off bad,he needs he didn't even need to be
(04:54):
on the ball club But here's thething. Pinion needs a bast second.
Breckman needs, you know, whatneeds to happen to break when he needs
to be putting a ninth hole.Because right now, if you take,
if you take that lineup that youwant to play, Sean and I do
too, he is ninth and sluggingninth and ops eighth and on base percent,
it's ninth and average and he's tightfor ninth in RBRS to a guy
(05:16):
who has fifty three less at batsthan he does. Reckman is the worst
hitter on the team. He needsthe bat ninth. Maybe some shame will
get his button moving, but puttinghim in the second hole is not the
answer, not right now, becausehe's not producing Penius. Penius would be
(05:39):
in the second hole and appreciate.I like that longnap. I like that
long snapper from Betune Cookman in thesixth round. Yeah, that's a great
need pick Sandy and oh my god, let's talk to John John welcome in,
god Man, who is Dana Brown? And Joe is by and listening
(06:00):
to the people that's calling in aboutmoving Bregman in the two hole. Listen
man. Traditionally, the weak hittersyou put him at the bottom of the
lineup. Sean what's our boy namethat left Boston and went over there to
the Dodgers. Uh, Mookie Betts. Guys like that that have a history
of being great hitters. If they'restruggling, then you moved them up in
(06:21):
the two hole to so that theycan get some better some better pitches.
Bregman, I don't care what peoplesay. You can run be destat to
me for Gregman every year. Butthe problem is they take him the whole
season to get to those stats.Gregman's a great defensive player, he is
not a great hitter. Put Gregmandown there around at fifty sixth seven hole
(06:45):
and if you really want to moveup, let him earn his way back.
You see how it worked out lastnight. Oh come, Bregman,
he gets put out. Now wegot one man out. We only got
two more jobs to try and tiethis game. Or take the man that
it don't work. Put him downthen a fifth six old. I'm sorry,
he ain't even hitting bet than ChadMcCormick, h du bond Man.
(07:09):
Thank you, John. I loveI love our I love our guys,
passion man, all of them.I do. And the varying opinions makes
for great banter. Told you allours, our callers are the best on
the planet. Seven one seven hinetyBill, Good morning, Good morning.
What's happening? What's on your mind? Bill? Fire us up? Baby?
Oh yeah, I love the conversationthis morning. I got another wrinkle
(07:33):
on Dubond. Let's blame at firstbase. You're not to keep Myers in
the lineup? Why, Bill,Let me ask you. Let me ask
you, Bill, Bill, letme ask you a question. Why do
you want to keep Jake Myers inthe lineup. Hey, he's a good
hitter. He's got three home runsand what sixty at bats? He's got
a better home run for Sansan anyone, and Myers is much better than a
(07:57):
Bray who ray who should be offthe team? I agree? So what
about? What if? What ifI could give you Cartiny and Dubon in
the lineup at the same time?Oh? There you go. Yeah that's
good. Yeah, definitely. Butlook how Guryel was at first base when
he went from third base to firstbase, he was a goal glover.
(08:20):
I bet Dubon could be a goalglover at first base. Thank you for
the call with Dumon at first base, Krotini stills a part timer right,
Dubon and centerfield full timer, Caroteniat first base and catcher full timer when
Diaz isn't catching, Carotini at firstDiaz behind the plate on the bench.
When you want to give Diaz,arrest d him, stick yourd on in
(08:43):
left field. Dubon plays centerfield,Carrotini plays is catcher, and then you
can then once every five or tendays, that's when Singleton and a Bray
you get a little bit of runto keep them, keep them. That's
it. They become the guys offthe bench. I need my strongest nine
there because we don't have any luxuryright now with all the pitching injuries.
(09:05):
This isn't we're good man, we'renineteen and four. It's the other way
around. That's exactly right. Soif you were eighteen and seven, different
ballgame, you have a little luxury. I'll tell you what. It may
not be desperate, but it betterbe urgent. Desperately sing to love and
(09:26):
now, dude, name that name? That cut name? Come on,
I don't know because Western Wednesday,it was off tune? What was it?
Whoa stray? Before eight? Whenam I ever on Yeah, it's
a good point. So I'm notyour off tune is on too exactly.
So that's the whole point of oao. Who was a cutmaster? Speak for
yourself? Fact that you don't knowis it's just a shame. It's horrible
(09:48):
it And can you fix that wirebefore you choke yourself? Please? Thank
you? That was it? Thatwas it? Go ahead, that was
there. You know you appreciate it. So what's your Who was it?
Who was it? Whom? Thewho is the greatest country artist of all
time? King? George? Thereyou go, George Straight, tripley desperately
by George Straight, bring us back. Here's another thing. The reason why
(10:09):
I couldn't I didn't hear the lyrics, Uh, the way your facial expressions
and the way you were staring atme and tilted your head. Yeah,
man, you like that. Andwith the with the fresh hair cut too.
They sunk, They sunk into thedeep blue green, the deep green
eyes, my guys, that aregreen. Yeah. I went from bragt
you brought out the green in myeyes? Why are you looking at me
like that? Just stop it.These cameras are on there gonna say what
(10:31):
gam sings and make facial expressions atSean and furrows his brows. Wrong with
you. I couldnt even hear thecut because I was, I was,
you were you stand into my steelygreens, just just mesmerized, Oh my
gosh, I lost that. Yeah, bricked up. Damn right, Damn
rights. It'd be perfect if youwe would have had men's tea at that
(10:54):
point. But that's okay. Wegot it later on the show. Damn
Rights. Break yourself up to fiveseven ninety Astros fans, what would your
lineup be? Jake Myers or MauricioDubon in centerfield. Let's talk about it next
Sean Salisbury. Brian, this isthis Sean Salisbury show on Sports Talk seven
ninety. When you're asked to getit under a minute, have your built
in time clock, quickness and brevity. Bingo. Let's go, Jonathan,
You're up first, John, thepressure. Appreciate you. Yeah, we
(00:24):
all operate under pressure. Jonathan,show us your stuff, dude, let
him hang. Let's do that,Okay, driving up, driving up to
Dallas. You got to help mecut pavement. Thank you very much.
It's a little bit of a differenttake. I just want to hear what
you guys have to say, becauseI totally think you are right. I'm
not disagreeing with playing Devil's advocate.We are not the coaches, and we
(00:45):
do not see what goes on atpractice. We don't see what some of
these guys that are struggling are stillable to do in practice in their talent
level. And Bryan, you coached, Sewn, you played and coached,
and I coached, and so Ijust wonder sometimes is that you just kind
of know deep down that that thatguy that struggles will probably use you better
shot percentage wise. That's number oneand number two. Quite frankly, these
guys are paid millions of dollars toknow what they're doing, and they probably
(01:08):
know what everybody is calling in thatdoesn't know, and you talk about all
the time, Sean. And sothe last little thing I'll say is that
we're calling to hang up and here, what do you guys have to say?
Though? Later? Thank you Johns, Jonathan and listen. And we've
said a million times they are inall sports, We're allowed, everybody's allowed
their opinion. They're experts and theygot hired because they're specialists that just like
(01:32):
somebody is in sales in their job, or as an engineer and their job.
I can have an opinion on engineering, but I wouldn't know how to
put what they do together. Yeah, it makes sense, but the opinion,
And to be honest with you,I don't think the opinion of what
we said, like about Dubon andVictor Kartini, I don't think that has
anything to do with practice the game. I want gamers to me it reeks
(01:53):
of these two guys are better attheir position right now and now the spring
training is over. In truth,Jonathan, unlike others sports where you practice
in between like football for a week, they don't really practice. You come
back in, take a little battingpractice and fielding practice. The hardcore practice
is over. They want you offyour feet on the day off, right,
So they're not really getting a chanceto compete like you would at a
(02:14):
football practice. Hey, we gotfour practices for the next game. Let's
see what you do during nine onseven and team and blitz pickup. This
is game related once spring training isover, and performance not potentially related.
So you're right though they know morethan we do, but it still doesn't
mean that they know more that they'remaking the right decision based on what they
need to do. Because in truth, if the you don't need analytics to
(02:36):
tell you do bonds an everyday player, you just don't need analytics to take
it's obvious. I guess analytics theevidence, the results are showing it,
and Carotini's proven right now, andit's okay to adjust and go back.
It's not saying that their failures asplayers or a manager for making that decision.
So, Jonathan, I'm in totalagreement with you, and that's why
they get paid that money to managethem and the rest of it. But
(02:57):
from a distance and sometimes for usand you, Jonathan or anybody that calls
in here, we look at adifferent perspective because we're not in that arena
fighting with them every day, andwe may be able to give a different
perspective. I know this. Wewanted Bregman in the two hole and Yourdan
in the three hole, and Tuckerin the four hole, and Diaz in
the five hole and Painting in thesix hole. And I'll be damned not
that they're listening. Does and askingDane Brown, is there a sense of
(03:20):
urgency to change this lineup? Hesays, I think you're going to see
some changes. And it happened overnight. Well not even overnight, happened a
few hours later, So I thinkthey see it as well. But the
Dubon Carotina thing, they need moreat bats. They're just better right now.
It doesn't mean you're tied into it, and it's a life sentence that
a Brave's never getting back in thelineup. But right now, and especially
when you're in a chase mode,you got to put your best nine out
(03:44):
there. And I don't think there'sany argument that Kartini and Dubon are better
than the guys who are running outthere right now. Yeah. Great point
by Jonathan. They should be playing. Yep, Andy, you're up next.
What's going on? Potential in practicedoesn't mean nothing if you can't produce
in real games. Yeah, Iwant gamers. I want gamers. Yeah,
me too. That's right. Sothat's yeah, that's yeah. So
real quick, we all we wewe said Dubon should have been mccarmick,
(04:08):
should have been started at the year. Oh my gosh, Andy, give
us a shower back. We gotall kinds of issus over here. Give
us a shower back. That voicechanged. It went from it was like
for robotic after Wow, it waslike it was like, you know how
somebody you know, somebody when they'relike on a movie, the hostage caller,
they did that voice. Thing thatchanged? Is that talking is normal?
Yeah? That was random. Thatwas crazy. What was going on
(04:32):
except one to three he was onthe right page of It's pretty easy to
see. Let's try this again,Andy, good morning. Yeah, okay,
real quick. I love the lineup. What Sean's saying. That's
what we kind of said at thebeginning year besides Katrina, But we knew
Brak if he started off bad,he needs he didn't even need to be
(04:54):
on the ball club But here's thething. Pinion needs a bast second.
Breckman needs, you know, whatneeds to happen to break when he needs
to be putting a ninth hole.Because right now, if you take,
if you take that lineup that youwant to play, Sean and I do
too, he is ninth and sluggingninth and ops eighth and on base percent,
it's ninth and average and he's tightfor ninth in RBRS to a guy
(05:16):
who has fifty three less at batsthan he does. Reckman is the worst
hitter on the team. He needsthe bat ninth. Maybe some shame will
get his button moving, but puttinghim in the second hole is not the
answer, not right now, becausehe's not producing Penius. Penius would be
(05:39):
in the second hole and appreciate.I like that longnap. I like that
long snapper from Betune Cookman in thesixth round. Yeah, that's a great
need pick Sandy and oh my god, let's talk to John John welcome in,
god Man, who is Dana Brown? And Joe is by and listening
(06:00):
to the people that's calling in aboutmoving Bregman in the two hole. Listen
man. Traditionally, the weak hittersyou put him at the bottom of the
lineup. Sean what's our boy namethat left Boston and went over there to
the Dodgers. Uh, Mookie Betts. Guys like that that have a history
of being great hitters. If they'restruggling, then you moved them up in
(06:21):
the two hole to so that theycan get some better some better pitches.
Bregman, I don't care what peoplesay. You can run be destat to
me for Gregman every year. Butthe problem is they take him the whole
season to get to those stats.Gregman's a great defensive player, he is
not a great hitter. Put Gregmandown there around at fifty sixth seven hole
(06:45):
and if you really want to moveup, let him earn his way back.
You see how it worked out lastnight. Oh come, Bregman,
he gets put out. Now wegot one man out. We only got
two more jobs to try and tiethis game. Or take the man that
it don't work. Put him downthen a fifth six old. I'm sorry,
he ain't even hitting bet than ChadMcCormick, h du bond Man.
(07:09):
Thank you, John. I loveI love our I love our guys,
passion man, all of them.I do. And the varying opinions makes
for great banter. Told you allours, our callers are the best on
the planet. Seven one seven hinetyBill, Good morning, Good morning.
What's happening? What's on your mind? Bill? Fire us up? Baby?
Oh yeah, I love the conversationthis morning. I got another wrinkle
(07:33):
on Dubond. Let's blame at firstbase. You're not to keep Myers in
the lineup? Why, Bill,Let me ask you. Let me ask
you, Bill, Bill, letme ask you a question. Why do
you want to keep Jake Myers inthe lineup. Hey, he's a good
hitter. He's got three home runsand what sixty at bats? He's got
a better home run for Sansan anyone, and Myers is much better than a
(07:57):
Bray who ray who should be offthe team? I agree? So what
about? What if? What ifI could give you Cartiny and Dubon in
the lineup at the same time?Oh? There you go. Yeah that's
good. Yeah, definitely. Butlook how Guryel was at first base when
he went from third base to firstbase, he was a goal glover.
(08:20):
I bet Dubon could be a goalglover at first base. Thank you for
the call with Dumon at first base, Krotini stills a part timer right,
Dubon and centerfield full timer, Caroteniat first base and catcher full timer when
Diaz isn't catching, Carotini at firstDiaz behind the plate on the bench.
When you want to give Diaz,arrest d him, stick yourd on in
(08:43):
left field. Dubon plays centerfield,Carrotini plays is catcher, and then you
can then once every five or tendays, that's when Singleton and a Bray
you get a little bit of runto keep them, keep them. That's
it. They become the guys offthe bench. I need my strongest nine
there because we don't have any luxuryright now with all the pitching injuries.
(09:05):
This isn't we're good man, we'renineteen and four. It's the other way
around. That's exactly right. Soif you were eighteen and seven, different
ballgame, you have a little luxury. I'll tell you what. It may
not be desperate, but it betterbe urgent. Desperately sing to love and
(09:26):
now, dude, name that name? That cut name? Come on,
I don't know because Western Wednesday,it was off tune? What was it?
Whoa stray? Before eight? Whenam I ever on Yeah, it's
a good point. So I'm notyour off tune is on too exactly.
So that's the whole point of oao. Who was a cutmaster? Speak for
yourself? Fact that you don't knowis it's just a shame. It's horrible
(09:48):
it And can you fix that wirebefore you choke yourself? Please? Thank
you? That was it? Thatwas it? Go ahead, that was
there. You know you appreciate it. So what's your Who was it?
Who was it? Whom? Thewho is the greatest country artist of all
time? King? George? Thereyou go, George Straight, tripley desperately
by George Straight, bring us back. Here's another thing. The reason why
(10:09):
I couldn't I didn't hear the lyrics, Uh, the way your facial expressions
and the way you were staring atme and tilted your head. Yeah,
man, you like that. Andwith the with the fresh hair cut too.
They sunk, They sunk into thedeep blue green, the deep green
eyes, my guys, that aregreen. Yeah. I went from bragt
you brought out the green in myeyes? Why are you looking at me
like that? Just stop it.These cameras are on there gonna say what
(10:31):
gam sings and make facial expressions atSean and furrows his brows. Wrong with
you. I couldnt even hear thecut because I was, I was,
you were you stand into my steelygreens, just just mesmerized, Oh my
gosh, I lost that. Yeah, bricked up. Damn right, Damn
rights. It'd be perfect if youwe would have had men's tea at that
(10:54):
point. But that's okay. Wegot it later on the show. Damn
Rights. Break yourself up to fiveseven ninety Astros fans, what would your
lineup be? Jake Myers or MauricioDubon in centerfield. Let's talk about it next
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