Cubs Sweep Astros, Joe Espada's Ejection, Round 1 NFL Draft

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Saulisbury. Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury, The usc Truth,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, BryanLima, go Lobos. This is the
Sewn Salsbury Show. Shawn Tripley,Good morning. I don't know what what's

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more shocking Joe Spot his weak assejection or Michael Pennix going in the top
ten to the Atlanta Falcons. Washe twelveth No? I was? I
was you were talking about? Yeah? I was like, no, he
was number eight Atlanta. Good morning, and I'm with you. There was

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a couple of shocking thinks. I'mnot surprised at the Joe's Spot ejection because
I didn't expect him to fight backin that one. Well, we'll get
to that as I digress. Ijust know this and I'll get into it.
It kind of epitomizes what this team'slook like this year. Yeah,
no fight in the fight back,but whether the ejection part of it?

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All right, let me hit thatfirst, Okay, Yeah, let me
hit that first. Don't bury thelead. Yeah, I'm not going to.
I was watching and I swear youcame in this morning and said something
and I said, that was myexact thought process when it happened. I
feel like because even on the broadcastteam, I'm watching the game and I
watched every pitch yesterday. So wetried to do when you're not doing something

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else and try to figure out what'sgoing. First off, we know that
the runners in scoring position, there'sthere, there is bad. They're They're
like a triple A team right now. That's not good. It's crazy,
it's maddening. As I tweeted,you try to figure it out. They
don't know how to win close gamesin twenty twenty four, and that's just
simple fact. Well, we're goingto be okay, great, not like

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this year. Not by by themiddle of May. This keeps up,
you'll be ten to twelve games outof first place, six and a half
down. Yep. And I don'tcare what anybody says. In this division
with the Rangers and the Mariners,even though it's not as strong a division
yet, it'll get stronger. You'renot You're not winning the division twelve games
out in May or June. Nothere. You're just you're it's not gonna
happen most of the time, andnever say never in sports, but it's

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not gonna happen. So you know, win one. When to I get
it? And this this should bea sweep all the way through. You're
playing Colorado, and aren't you runningout Fromber? And who else is who
else? Who they're going to see? You're running out Fromber and Ronel Blanco
Blanco Rober first or burnout Blanco first. Either way, you're running out two
guys, one that you didn't expectto be a You're you're quite frankly your

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bulldog in the starting rotation in Blanco. The other one we're gonna find out
what his toughness is all about comingback. Blanco is Saturday, uh fromber
Valdez is Sunday, well, andFromber Even though the with the seven thousand
foot altitude, this is a ballparkthat will if you hit a pop fly
out. But it's good that theVerdlanders or the Javiers aren't pitching here.

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Flyball patures Fromer normally keeps the balldown, so hopefully he'll, you know,
give a lot of ground balls backto this. Joe spot a thing.
I don't know what happened. Hecovered his mouth. Blum and Todd
Collis didn't know why he got ejectedeither, because it was like coming out
of an inning as they standing therenext to the umpire and he runs him.
It was one of the strangest ejectionsI've ever seen. Not that he

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got ejected and I didn't. Therewas no animation beforehand. And I'm sure
the strike zone on both teams wasa little should I say kind to the
hitter yesterday? You know what Imean? And when I say talking about
not tying to hit kind of thepitcher is that they were at times.
Put it this way, there werestrikes that Verlander through that the batter didn't

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swing at that should have been calleda strike, and it was the same
for the Chicago Cubs. And thenthere are also times when he missed pitches
that were called strikes that were balls. It went both ways. The pitcher
got hammered with it a few timesyesterday. My point is that he was
going out apparently he was gonna argueballs and strikes right as always talking.
He got tired of Joe spot,I got tired of the bad strike zone.

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He did. Yeah, and itwent both ways. But yeah,
it wasn't a great strike zone byany stretch of the imagination. Okay,
went out there, I'm expecting himto hop out of the dugout and go
do his thing. Oh yeah,you know what it looked like to me
that he walked up said, youknow, I don't like the strike zone.
You know, maybe said it tobe strike zone whatever. And then
he covered his mouth. The umpiredidn't jump at him. There wouldn't.

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It was a It looked like aconversation you and I'd have standing in the
hallway. And then he covered hismouth. You know the first thing that
came to my mind was I needyou to run me. Yeah, that's
exactly right. And then Joe's withoutthe second he heaved him. I mean
they were talking, he covered hismouth, he gave him a heave ho.
He just turned around and walked away, almost as if Okay, he

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did it for me, thank you. Like you know when a kid,
when a dad calls a kid inand reprimands him because he did something at
school, didn't make the right greatend study, or said something to his
mother, talked back when he gothome from work and the kid comes in,
See dad turns around and walks withaywith his tail between his legs and
with no fight in him. It'slike, okay, man, I disappointed
my pops defeated. Yes, yeah, that's what it looked like. It's

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exactly what it looked like. Iknow this. I'm not guys go a
different way. Aaron Boone, fromBobby Cox to Larry Boa get ejected different
ways. I know this, Andit's especially in the way they're playing.
And if he wanted to get run, like we've talked. I talked to
remember about five days ago. Isaid, like a basketball coach, get
a couple of tea's because he needsto run because his team's not playing well.
Of a sudden he leaves, andthen the momentum kicks in because they're

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going to try to go win thegame for their coach. Sometimes that changes
the momentum in a game. Iknow this. I'm getting my money's worth
if I'm getting ejected, even ifI don't really have fight, I'm gonna
and I would tell the up ifI'm saying run me, but I'm gonna.
I gotta get a little animated herefor my team. So I'm gonna
drop a few f bombs. I'mnot gonna make it personal, but you're
gonna run me, and then I'mgonna stait here and be animated for thirty

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seconds and then I'm gonna stop andturn back, and I'm getting my money's
worth. It was this, andI just walked back. It almost felt
like that's the energy of the team. Oh he ran me. What a
bummer, I swear to you,that's the first thing I thought. Disappointed.
I want to say, Jill,turn around, fight back. I
don't know why you're getting objected.Yeah, what's happening here? Do something

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to me. It reeks of I'llbe damned if I'm going to tell you
this, I'd bet one thousand dollarseighty percent of what we're saying that we're
right. If you're getting run andyou've got a problem, make sure we
all know. You know, thechild home crowd will cheer. You're a
manager when he gets run like that. I'm not saying, but in this

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case, optics if he was tryingto make it, in my opinion,
for the optics for his team,Let's get a little spark. We're not
hitting. Let's see if he canchange momentum in a game the way we
started off this year. Frustration.Aren't you going to make it animated?
Brian? Aren't you just for theeye? Isn't it? Doesn't it become
an optics ejection for your team.It has to be no doubt for a

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guy, for a guy that saidto the guy in quite frankly, and
I'm just gonna say this for myvantage. Wait, he may end up
being a Hall of Fame manager.I don't know, And he may be
fired in eighteen months. I don'tknow that either. But I do know
this that guys go leaders and peoplego about there. Some are a little
more outlandish than other. Some talkmore, some are a little more introverted.

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You know, some guys play shortstopin Major League Baseball, like Derek
Jeter com all the time, andthen some guys like I said Larry Bowl
back in the day, he wantsto fight you every time you get near
him and animated and awesome. Right, just depends with a manager. You
know, you don't have to bea leader to yell and scream, but
they're just come a point when theygot to know you got fire in your
belly. I see Joe a spot, But the same way he got ejected

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is the same way I see whenhe's managing. I'm not telling him how
to act, but I can tellyou this, there is a the It
was as if it's just this iswait yesterday, it's getting too calm for
me. Does that mean I needsome disruption? I do. I need
some disruption. And if you're gonnaget run, let me know, just

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let us know that energy that you'refighting it. It was just like,
and I know some people say it'snot that big a deal, show it
is to me in the optics,especially this team that right now, look,
there's as bad as there is withrunners in scoring position and closing out
games there as bad as a Brave'snot the same. Right now, they
can't get runners across they score early. Verlander pitched well enough to win,

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and especially early when he got acouple of jams in the first few innings
and the pitch count went up.The guy then strikes out the side and
comes. He was he's a proman, and he knows how to fight,
and hell, I was like,man, I'd almost leave him in
longer just to let but you know, you start to push up that ninety
pitch. I get it. Buthe just is a he's phenomenal at what

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he does. And he gave youa chance to win. He did put
you in position, and I thoughtit was one of the weakest ejections ever.
That was not I'm fighting for myteam. I can't stand the strikes,
and that was I really don't likethe strike zone because you know you're
missing calls. And it went bothways. I'm gonna go out there and
I'm gonna get run. I need. I needed damn near bases to be
picked up and thrown, not literally, but you get my I fight in

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Joe Aspata, I do. Iunderstand, Hey, calm under chaos and
deal with adversity and pressure, butsometimes you know what you gotta do.
You got to disrupt the whole applecart where they're like, damn, I
didn't know that dude had it inhim. Doesn't make him a good manager
a bad manager. But if you'regetting ejected for the optics of your team,
you need to get ejected for allour optics. Because it looked to

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me like that Umpire said, getsore ass back in that dugout, and
he said, no, you needto run me. All right, you're
run, show me some fight atleast, especially if it's a planned run
by you. Yes, I sayyou take on the personality your head coach.
I always say it, And youknow what this year doesn't. It's
not bad. You decide if it'sbad or good. They've taken on the
personality Joe spot and that Joe spotof personality. To me from a distance

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right now, twenty six games inlooks like they're way too common casual.
There's seven and ninth way too commoncasual. So you can keep telling me
everything's okay. So the bray youlook okay to you, No, he
looks awful. Okay? Does thedoes the injury does he? Yeah?
That's what I'm talking. Well,the other break he doesn't either, right,
the injured and they lined they gaveme a lineup yesterday. We asked

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for Duban, the best night titter, and the league guess what we got.
We got the ninth hitter. Wewe sure as hell got him,
didn't Weah. So I'm not sayingthey did it because of us. But
the lineup, other than having VictorKartini at first base, that's the lineup
you want. And and in order. Yeah, and they still came up
with one run on the hold out. What was it out to base home
run? No? That not.It was a base hit early the d

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was out two base home run inthe ninth inning, yeah, you're right,
so for me, And it's likewith the balls a little close.
They're not hacking there, it's likethey're too they're too common, casual and
quite frankly, getting a little toocute on Sometimes there's no urgency at the
plate. If I'm getting ejected,you're all gonna know it, and a

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specially le especially with the situation here. But you know, another question is
why did you wait so long?You wait until the ninth, in between
the eighth and in the ninth ifyou thought that the zone was that poor
There was sometimes for Orlanda and theSTI and cub start. So get ran
in the fifth, that's exactly right. When you haven't when you get ran

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on the fifth when it's a onenothing game, scored one early and didn't
touch the home plate the rest ofthe day, Get run in the fifth,
Get run in the fourth if youwanted to send a message to your
team on one of the This isthe worst start that the Houston Nationals have
ever had since nineteen sixty nine,since nineteen sixty nine, But it's gonna

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be okay. It's early, Brian. You are you were eleven games under
five hundred going into yesterday's game,you were up one nothing until the bottom
of the sixth inning. You couldhave chosen a completely different time to get
tossed, but you waited until inbetween the eighth and ninth inning, and
then you got tossed like week anda missive. Let's call it like it

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is, would I tell you whenyou text? Yeah, that's that's why
use those words. But it's perfectlyin spot on. I said. I
was a little more uh yeah,the stuff you can't yeah, right,
But but it was when I thought, I said, man, are you
just gonna walk away? Tail betweenyour weekens to miss? I don't know
why you're getting run but it's notlike you were calling a play and put
why why put your hand over yourmouth? Well you're not. You're worried

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that a four year old's going tosee you drop an F bomb on TV.
Well that tell the parents to turnthe sound down. What did we
hear all last year about Dusty Baker? Oh, he shows no fire?
Why is Dusty not getting run there? Why is he not getting tossed?
Here? We are twenty six gamesin your manager astro fans goes out there
and whispers and gets tossed. Yeah, and but got tossed and turned it
out. I mean, like,why am I getting tossed to you kidding

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me? Turn and walked away.Yes, you heard it a thousand times.
Man, it's Dusty worse. Dusty'sfire this. He needs to get
run for this, protect his teamlike a pitcher who's protect this team when
their hitter gets hit. Listen,that's not the reason they're bad, meaning
his non lack of ejection, talentedteam, They're not a good team right
now. And I thought it wasone of the worst fight back ejections I've

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ever seen. If you're going toget run, dude, get run the
right way, especially with the opticsof your team. Because most people I
know think this team is disinterested rightnow. That's how it looks, yes,
and where does it start, rightAnd it's not just you know,
fans and the rest of it.People that are friends of mine inside of
baseball that have played it or beenaround it for a long time. A

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disinterested team, that's what it lookslike. I'm not saying they don't play
hard. Everybody should play hard.We've heard that. I just I thought
it looked to me like he askedthem to get be ejected. And I
said, I'm not going to fightback or what it was. It was
almost it felt like such a fake, planned ejection. It was weird.
Yeah, it was weird. Whetherit is or isn't, my optics tell
me I need a little more fightthan that. Jody takes on the personality

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the head coach, and that's howthe team's playing right now. That was
Joe spots first career rejection and itwent very lack of dat nothing memorable about
it. Oh there's not the reasonwhy we're going to remember it is because
of how lame it was. Yeah, it was awful. He spoke about
the team needing more urgency after thegame and the loss last night worse starts
since nineteen sixty nine four. TheAsh Shows will continue to talk about it

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next on The Seawan Salisbury Show.This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue,
Dan Matthews, that'll start right hereat six o'clock on seven ninety uh to
take you through rounds two and three. Sexan's got a couple of draft picks.
Joe Spotta had his first career ejectsejection last night. It was lack
of days ago to say the least. This is what he said about the

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team needing more urgency. They're they'refighting, man, you know. They
they want, they want to getback to playing the type of baseball that
we that we are, that werecapable of. But but he's not happening,
and he's not going to happen unlesswe change. Like, no one's
going to handles anything. This iswe we have to fight through this.

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Is there a team that could doit? Is his club? So I
no, they will turn these thingsaround. But there's got to be a
little more urgency. There's got tobe more more fire in, you know,
in the middle of the game wherewe we find ourselves back against the
corner. We just got to fight, fight and if we do that,
well, we'll be fine. Tripley, do you do you mind doing me
a favorite play? The first shown. Listen in the first ten seconds of

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this play, the first ten seconds, Tripley, please, They're they're fighting,
man, you know, they theywant, they want to get back
to playing the type of baseball thatwe that we are capable of. Right
there, they're fighting, Sean,Yeah, they means we. I would
say I would suggest that's a we, not a day because they're all in.
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe they'relook at each other as to him

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and they as opposed to we're allin this love together, right. I
don't know, but there there,there's there, there's a gap of leadership,
something missing aside from performance, whichis where it starts, but or
should I say, which is thelast part of it. Building that foundation
to get to wins and losses iswhere it starts. And right now,
the fact foundation of the way they'vebuilt it in twenty twenty four, team

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wise looks great team. I meanon paper they're but they're loaded. The
problem is, I know we cansay injuries, but injuries don't There's nobody
on the everyday list. It's nothurt this plane, every day pitching staff,
but they're still not driving in runs. You score, you give up
three runs. Mostly you should bein position to win all the time,
and they're just not putting themselves inposition to win with their bats. There's
a lot of reasons, but yeah, the Espada approach to it. Uh,

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they want of course, they wantto win, and the sacrifices everybody
wants to win. The sacrifice isbeing made to win. But listen,
I wanted to win five Super Bowlstoo, me too. I worked hard.
But if you're not in the righttiming or you don't get better,
you're not the guy takes them fivesuper Bowls or wins the World Series.
So I uh, for me,this is a the jury's out on the

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leadership situation here. It may beearly, but a lot of times you
find out early what you need toknow, and I don't know. It's
going to take a while, andthis deserves to take a while. And
let's see what happens for not onlyhim, but how the roster continues to
improve. But you just can't keepsaying we're hoping we turn this around.

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Somebody's got to step up and sayI'm going to be the one to turn
it around. So I listen.I'm never going to tell a person how
to act or how they lead withenergy or lack thereof of energy. But
to me, it feels like it'sjust of course, they're playing hard and
want to win. But the urgencyof it, there's a part of me
that believes that, like we alwayshear it's early that I think they've had

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so much success and they trust themtheir game so much that it's okay,
if we get behind, we'll runback out of this what was a minch
yesterday? The two thousand and fiveastros were fifteen and thirty. It's twenty
twenty four. That's what I careabout. And yes, there's always the
well, what if they do andthey come back, then great, then
we'll be telling them how great theyare with the phenomenal and it'll tell me
what though the urgency kicked in?Yeah, I just can't believe we're talking

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about urgency when you got to playdamn near every day. There should be
here. So you're not gonna beable to play them all. Great,
but you can control that part ofit, understanding where you are. And
at six and a half out,the alarming thing is that the division hasn't
been very good and you're six anda half out and you're twenty six games
into the season. That's hard todo with this roster. So listen,

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there's gonna be questions about Joe Aspataand the rest of it until they start
winning. And the energy for JoeAspota, I mean, if you don't
start winning, it's going to getworse for him because you are the front
and say it's the way it alwaysworks. Head coach and quarterback manager and
your stars if they're not performing andthere's an energy. I just the ejection

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epitomized who they've been this year,the fight in them. Yeah, well,
the fight to do everything you needto do to put yourself in position.
Maybe they're taking all the batting,prey all that stuff. I'm not
there. I don't see it.My optics just tell me they're not good
under in clutch what they've always been. Yes, it's early in the season,
but there's a there's too many ifsand too much stuff missing. And

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I just felt that ejection was Ilike the time and go go get him
something if you wanted to, Likeyou said the fourth fifth in go get
ejected. But it was it wasa library ejection. Yeah, it was
a public library. It's a publiclibrary abjection. I need a chaotic ropes
just came down your favorite celebrities acrossand they're running across to get his I
need that, or throwing your handsup in the air and fighting for the

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fact that you you uh, somebodyjust tried to take your meal off your
table. Dude. I'm I'm thinkingand hoping that his baseball career, that
he's going to be a hell ofa manager. I can tell you right
now that he's he's got a longway to go. If you ask me,
if you want to see the lackof urgency and struggles of the Houston

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Astros and where uh it starts.In my opinion, just look at his
ejection yesterday. That tells you allyou need to know. There are planned
ejections to send a message to yourteam and things like that, and there
was an opportunity to do it,and he picked the time in between the
eighth and the ninth inning. Andit was weak. It was weak.

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Yeah, I thought that's the bestway to It was extremely weak. It's
extremely weak. They are seven tonineteen. Let's look at name on request
on Twitter. Real Quick says yesterday, send the message to me. Last
egga Sean. We probably need tostop calling it scoring position. It's more
like stranded position. And it's afact they got runners in stranded position.

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It's almost like you're resigned to thefact that it's going to be a week
pop up. Yeah, it's goingto be a roll over to second base,
ground ball to first base. AndI listen and again there's no panic
in me. I'm not going tothe plate. I don't have to fix
this. But I can tell youfrom my judgment. You tell me that
the sum of this team right nowis anything but about a four. That's

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that's that might be kind. Thatmight be kind too. In my opinion,
it's hard to get down with thistalent. Imagine it's hard to be
down six and a half games twentyfive, twenty six games in what's the
record again, seven and nineteen.There you go, twenty six games in
seven and nineteen and you're you're alreadysix and a half down. Yeah,
Oh we're gonna get hot, okay, being a good time to start in
Colorado, really good time to start, meaning Colorado in Mexico City. You

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can't go to Mexico City and loseboth those games. You can't even split.
You have to sweep that little miniseries. And there's no like that.
That's that's that is the mindset thatthey have to have. I'm not
saying these are must well, yeah, you all must win, damn it.
That's such a cliche saying cliche saying, but you can't go in there
and lose two, No, youcan't. And you know what, for
a ballpark that's gonna do a lotof home runs and a lot of runs.
I would love to see them winlike a three to one game,

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you know why, right, Oror drive in the winning run in the
eighth inning with a single to rightfield, so you say, oh,
there's that team, right, andthey win four to two, drive in
two runs, and then then theycome out and go seven, eight,
nine, bingo, bango bongo andget them all out with nine hitters and
they're all out and move it onto the next game. I'd love to
see one of those. Yeah'd benice. Yeah, Or just to win
and what looks like, Well,I'll tell you tell you one thing.

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You know how people need taught stuff. Joe a spot of needs a little
We need to walk him through abunch of video on how to get ejected
the right way. Ejection for dummies, ejecting. He's not a dummy,
but you know like the books,right ejections right, ejection one oh one?
Yeah, okay that that that's Illinoisfor dummies. Yeah that too.
Yeah. I got a couple ofhow to pull a zoid, yeah right,

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or how to screw it up foryou again again? Yeah, Well
I told you, you told,I told you you know this, you
I could pull it I know youcould. I mean, I know the
sports, the sports love and dudes. I can pull a dude. Okay,
well there you go. But Joe, Joe needs how to get eject?
Did one on one? Yeah?I thought the ejection was semi It

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looked fakeish to me. It wasweak. Even the umpire probably was like,
wait, what what exactly you wantme to run? You? You
sure go? Are you gonna fightback and drop a few f bombs on
me? To put your hand awayfrom it? To make the hand over
his mouth? And then he likewhispers to him and even the umpire has
to come in to it's a hearhim. You're not calling plays at third
down and four in the red zone. You don't need to put this play
the play sheet over your mouth.We want to see you cuss him out.

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That's exactly what we wanted to see. Be great. Yeah we needed
it, man, I needed it, and I wasn't even on the field.
I want to hop out and saythat the way Joe, Yeah,
yeah, give me bricked. Iswear it was always like what just happened?
Yeah? Not good? Not goodat all. Let's look at the
Astros with runners in scoring position overthe last two games next and also seven

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one three, two one two fiveseven nine, and we'll go out to
the phone line, say this isyour safe space, Astros fans. How
you feeling about the struggle so far? Next? That's four stalk seven to
eighty emotionally tied to the team.The Seawan Salisbury Show continues, Hi,
let's go, well see what theTexans do with those picks again. That's
going to be six o'clock tonight righthere on Sports Talk seven ninety seven,

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three two point two five seven ninetythe number to join talking about the Astros.
They suffer a sweep. Ronnie,good morning, Good morning, guys.
I want to throw one quick Texanprediction before we go to the Astros.
Although as a blind guy, Idon't you know. I listen to
you guys. I love to listento everybody in Houston. We've got some

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great people on your station and otherstations. I predict today that the Texans,
if they keep the positions they're in, are going to draft three defensive
players today. With regard to theAstros and a Spata and all. A
lot of the ejections in baseball thatseem to occur are based on personality.

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Conflicts between managers or players and theyou. I don't know if you saw
the ejection of Aaron Boone the otherday. Yeah, and he didn't do
anything, he didn't say anything.From what I hear on the Baseball Network,
a fan made the comment after Huntersaid that's enough, erin, and
the fan said something, and heran Aaron right out of the game.

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Yet there are some there are someempires who will put up with anything,
you know, and it's just Idon't understand it. And one last thing
for you, Brian, I'm gonnachange you. I'm going to give you
a new nickname, Lo Lima.Lima is the capital of Peru, so
i'm gonna call you mister Peru.There you go. And also you need
to go to I didn't get tohear the end of your corn, beef

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and cabbage discussion the other day.There's a restaurant in Houston you need to
go to if you want to findout how to eat cabbage. It's Cats.
Yeah. Cats never closes and theygot great cinnamon rolls and all that.
So that that's Oh my god.I didn't mean to take up too
much. You didn't take the Astrosneed to go down to uh Mexico and

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inflict some Mona Zuma's revenge on theYes, they do, Roddy. Enjoy
the weekend stuff, Roddy, Ilove it. Let's keep it going.
Talk to Tom. Good morning,Tommy, Good morning guys. Well,
I think we've officially I've said itbefore, but this is official. Now
we've hit rock Bottles. I mean, from suit to nuts. The outros

(26:29):
can't do anything a decent ball clubcan do. So we know every aspect
of their analytics is being exposed.But when you got a manager that can't
get tossed, what did he say? Did he say something like your mother
wears army boots. I mean,I don't understand this. You know,
I'm going to finish with this fightby telling you. One time, when

(26:52):
Harry Harry Wendelstadt was retiring, TimMcCarver asked him who was the manager that
was the hardest to throw out?And he started naming guys, but he
said the one that I hated tothrow out was Walter Alston because he would
come out and son th over andlike, you know, he had so
much respect for me, and Ihad so much respect for him. I

(27:15):
felt like I had to like apologizeif he said anything to me before I
tossed him, you know, andI see this with Joe a spot and
I say, dude, you can'teven get thrown out of the game.
It's rock bottom. And then Ienjoyed the draft last night. I can't
wait till you guys tackle it andgive me some information about what I saw.
Had fun with my boys. We'regoing out now to make bogies and

(27:37):
double bogies. I'm going to getoff and listen to the fans. Very
Joe. Thanks for letting him.Hey Tom, before you go, make
sure you ask him where the firstt is and what the course record is.
That's what I ask every time Igo there. And I haven't broken
the course record and I haven't foundthe first tea box yet. So hang
in there, brother, Enjoy youand your buddies. My friend. Appreciate
you. I got a word.I got a word for you. Sonya

(27:59):
stand bad. Maybe we'll get toplay one time and we can uh we
can we can test those handicaps together, brother, I look forward to it.
That would be nice. Thanks Tom, appreciate you have a great I
mean, my drip says golf today, too, doesn't it come on,
man, I'm gonna be on itlike a dog on chicken on a June.
But well, it's gonna be superwindy today, so good look.

(28:22):
Guess what as a high ball hitter, guess what you do? Dude,
you gotta hit. Don't tell methat the water is rough. Dude,
don't tell me how rough it is. I'll bring it a shp just giving
you back in my stance low drawstinger, I know. Yeah, I
said to hit it low and lowand hard. Are we supposed to know
this is? We're not supposed toshow up. But there's different mentality.
What do you mean have I gottastand and wait for the perfect right now?

(28:45):
I tell you the wind and you'relike, now you're trying to let
me put my hand. Okay,you got to relax, Joe. But
yeah, sometimes you gotta be alow ball hitter. Yeah, well put
it back to your stance to theenvironment. Just don't just don't stay out
of that fast. It's tough,especially on a windy day. I gotta
stay out of the fescue. Yeah, got it. And it's gonna be

(29:06):
tough to spend, tough to spendat times down wind. I'm tough to
spend the golf course today. Soyou're gonna give you the exact tea time
you can call and check up onit. Where is it at? Yeah?
See, uh huh at my homecourse. Let's just put it down,
you know what where that is.I'm not gonna put it out there.
Al good morning, Good mornings,uh oh al al, hold on

(29:30):
real quick. We got a littleissue with the got like an AI robot.
Sound to you? Try that again? Al? How about now?
Yes, sir, we're here,Yeah, there we go. What's going
on? Well, first of all, congratulate you on your USC guy going
number one, Thanks buddy, youknow that's that's always a huge thing.

(29:52):
And your Notre Dame guy went fivethough he's our four or five. He's
a hell of a player too,now, chargers y, yes he is.
I was pleased to hear that hewent that high and first first umpfensive
tackle drafted at number five, Sothat's that was good. The Astros,

(30:15):
you're right, that was purty dadgum lane and uh uh you know what,
Sean, we said, there's nofire in their belly. What do
you do when you don't have anyfire? You gotta build a fire.
And I know this is not theNHL, but it's time for somebody to
stand up and take one for theteam. Somebody, the next guy that

(30:40):
gets hit by a pits just needsto turn on the catcher and we need
to brawl. We need to buildthat fire, We need to do something
because all we're doing now is definitelynot working. I'll hang up to let
you guys know. You guys havea great weekend, and uh, let's

(31:00):
that Mexico. Great stuff out,Thank you, thank you. You know
you know what's crazy? Is itonce again the insanity thing? Yeah,
now they're adjusting the lineup. ButI'm talking about is the performance. It's
the same thing over and over.It is the true definition of insanity and
get the same result. Some's gotto shake up in narrow as the time.

(31:21):
Sometime when you do have to dothat, I hate to say it,
you've got to initiate the fight.And I don't mean cheap shot fight.
I'm not talking about literally. Attimes, you've got to do something
that makes you uncomfortable, and thisteam should be hugely uncomfortable right now.
The question is how you're going toget comfortable in it. And I don't
know what it's I don't. Idon't have the answer. We bottle them
up and sell them and be richfifty million times over. But something,

(31:45):
and it's not just something, Brian, it's a there's plenty of They're not
close, you know when people say, oh, they're close. No they're
not. Now you win six sevena row, all of a sudden,
it's like, how do we gethealthy? I don't know. Sometimes we
don't even know how we did it. You just did it. Question is
doesn't it look like they're all waitingfor somebody else to make the play?
Yeah? You know what I'm saying, Well, I'll wait when he makes

(32:06):
the play, then we'll go.Instead of being the one who says no,
no, no, cop on,let's go. I got this.
And yesterday's ejection epitomize what this team'slook like. Too calm, too too
casual, not relaxed, too casual, and there is a sense of urgency.
If they got it, then Idon't. Then that's not the sense
of urgency that I want. Notthey care what I want. But if

(32:27):
that's the sense of urgency, thenthey'll be watching the playoffs in one hundred
and thirty or forty games whatever.If that's the urgency you're playing with.
Yeah, there's not any urgency atall right now, not at all.
Let's look at the Astros runners inscoring position seven one, three, five,
seven, ninety number to join totalk about these Astro struggles. They
get swept for the fourth time thisseason. That's next on the Seawn Salisbury

(32:49):
Show. More Sean Salisbury, getin, strap in and write in.
Speaking of that ejection, Joe spotIs said after the game, quote,
I didn't agree with his strike zonetoday. Then he was asked why he
chose that moment, Joe A.Spotus said, quote, I just got
tired of watching end quote. Okay, all right, they lose to the

(33:15):
Cups three to one. There theysuffer a sweep hit. That hit that
show. Tell oh man, they'reoff today. I love I love Mexico
City. I love Fridays. TreyCabbage got called up. JP France got
sent down. Kind of interesting.Hunter Brown up here trying to get right.

(33:37):
Let's go. If you want toleave somebody up to get right,
send his ass down. So doyou trust more right now? JP France
or Hunter Brown? Well France,Yeah, they I mean the lab members,
you know, recency bias. Inhis last game. What five runs
in the first inning and send himdown like every every outing for un Brown
so far, this SERI except forone, right, I mean, but

(33:58):
the little, younger, longer terminvestor you expect him to be. I
mean, it's he's the next JustinVerlander, right, Yeah, Well maybe
JP France has more options. Yeah, and maybe and maybe you just believe
in Hunter Brown more, even thoughbecause his stuff's more explosive. Got to
get people out. I hate thatthere's so much. Can't drive runners in

(34:22):
back into the bullpen, still sufferinga little, can't get Verlander more than
one run, don't score, Soit didn't score since the first inning.
I mean, we're even questioning theenergy when a manager gets run. That's
where we saw al two based frustrationwhen the game ended. Just you can
see his distance. Yeah, yeah, the frustration. So uh, they

(34:44):
know it. We're not telling anythingthey don't know, and of course they're
trying to win. Nobody likes this, but they're going to have to have
to come to Jesus with themselves.This is a mirror thing. This isn't
a you thing, you know whatI mean? Yeah, and when it
does, we'll see what happens.But they're they're there needs to be.
I still wonder how many guys areconcerned with, Well, if I don't
do this, somebody else is goingto take my glove and put it in

(35:06):
their locker. I hope not thatthat's going to happen, but that creates
a sense of urgency. I guesswhat I'm saying is it, Well,
there may be some sacred cows onthis team. You can't perform like it?
Does that matter? Does that meansomething to you? Do you know
what I mean? Matter of fact, those are the guys. The sacred
cows are the ones who has toset the tone. Does that make sense?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, youknow lead, Yeah, I don't

(35:27):
know, man. Yeah, there'sjust no urgency at all. Quite frankly,
the performance is just futrided. Yeah, and the performance is following the
fact that there is no sense ofurgency. So yeah, and I think
you said it perfectly earlier in theshow, is that if this these losses
continue in the way that they're losing, Joe Spot is going to continue to
be questioned every single day and it'sonly gonna get worse. Well, that's

(35:50):
that's when you when you take onthe gig, you take on the good
and the bad with it. That'sjust part of seven seven Jin good morning,
Good morning Sean Bryant. Look,if I don't screw this up here,
what's our record right now? Seven? Nineteen seven and nineteen Yes?
Wow? How do we ever winseven games? It's a miracle because you

(36:15):
they're lollly gag in the first base, they're lily gag in the third.
That makes them lollygaggers. The gameis simple, the simple game. You
throw the ball, you catch theball, you hit the ball. At
what point I mean, these guyslook like they're they're not enjoying themselves anymore.

(36:39):
At what point? I mean?Baseball is supposed to be a fun
game. I know it's a business. I know they get paid lots of
money to play, But at whatpoint, I mean do you do you
lose that feel, that that enjoymentof the game. And that's what it
looks like. I mean you lookat every one of them and they there's
no fire, there's nothing. Imean, it's just you're just watching guys

(37:04):
go through the motion basically. Anyway, that's the other guy. Guys.
You have a good morning, youtoo, Jen, have a great weekend.
A couple of things I love.I mean lolligag great, if you're
a lollygagger. What I love it? I use that. I like it.
Jen, You're right. Two isyou mentioned the energy and the fun.
I know this team when they're attheir best, fun is at the

(37:28):
forefront of it. It's no funwhen you're losing. And that, don't
you believe. In my mind,I always believe there's a difference between not
wanting to lose and a refusal tolose. Whenever I think about that,
there's two names that really come tomind, maybe a third, and I'm
talking about it just in basketball fora second. The when I watched Jordan
and Bird and Kobe Bryant, thatmom a part of it. There's this

(37:52):
feeling of, yeah, you're gonnalose games, but it's almost that refusal
to lose in close games. Youknow what I mean, We're not losing
this game, and I'm gonna makesure it happened. That is, when
they're at their best. There seemsto be three or four or five guys
on that team that do that.And right now it's they don't gins right
on, they don't look from myoptics as well, they're enjoying themselves,

(38:15):
and this early in the season,it's tough not to enjoy yourself, but
when you're seven and nineteen, it'sreally hard to enjoy yourself. The refusal
lose. Everybody wants to win,nobody wants to lose, but there's a
difference that there is a difference inlosing and refusing to lose. And right
now they're waiting for the other teamto make a play, and unfortunately they've
made more. They were zero forsix with earners in scoring position. Just

(38:37):
a day prior there were one forten. Ye it's one for sixteen,
one for sixteen. If you're ajump shooter, you're not shooting anymore.
If you're a quarterback, you're notplaying. And if you're a coach,
you're probably not getting a second yearif that's your record. Does that make
sense? So it's there. There'ssome things that got to happen, and
somebody's going to have to pick itup. And I'm not sure who is
gonna who it is. Who's theleader? I don't Leaders come in different

(39:01):
shapes and sizes, and some leadby performance, some lead by talking and
performing. It's just going to takea run of guys saying, and it
doesn't mean it coaches or a playersmeeting, because right now the talk is
nobody cares about the talk. Theyjust care about the production and again being
spoiled, but regardless of being spoiledin the past. In truth, Yeah,

(39:22):
seven and nineteen, you're the ChicagoWhite Sox right now. Oh god,
how does that feel? You know? The Rockies have the same record
as the Astros right now, they'reboth seven and nineteen going into Mexico City.
Yeah, the Colorado Rockies, yep, the Oakland A's have more wins
than the Astros. Let that sinkin. I don't want to let us
think in because I can't. Idon't believe it's going to last, but

(39:43):
we keep saying it every day.Eventually something's going to have to change.
Mauricio Dubon spoke to the media afterthe game. Very very transparent answer from
Mauricio Dubon on the first twenty sixgames. You know it doesn't you know,
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Talking about these Houston Astros, it'sgut check time, says Mauricio Dubon.
He says, quote, it's likea slap in the face. There's no
other way to put it. We'vejust got to find ways. Things are
not going our away right now inthe first twenty six games. It just
sucks. He's uh, what washis first line. It's it's like a

(43:04):
slap in the face, Okay.And then Justin Verlander also spoke to the
media and he said, quote thetalent's there, it's gut check time.
You've got a fight end quote gutcheck time it is, so let me
tell you this, if it isgut check time. And remember I ad
when when we talked to Dana Brownasked about the mental toughness of his team,
and that's the same thing as gutcheck. Yeah, sure it is,

(43:27):
it is, and and it's heresooner than they wanted to be here.
So I'll tell you this. Ifif Mauricio Dubon and this team is
telling us, did it's gut checktime? An urgency the manager's talking about
urgency has to pick up, thenthen you know what you need to quit
telling me, not you, butanybody. It's early. Oh yeah.
So if they're thinking, the playersare telling you this, that's exactly so

(43:51):
go buy them, yeah exactly,because that yeah, that means that don't
don't give me the sixty game there'sno well it's sixty games. You can
judge their urgency there already concerned aboutit and you're twenty six games in.
So if you want to know thepulse of a team, follow what they're
talking about and how they're reacting toit, and then you'll know the guys

(44:13):
that are in the class. That'sexactly right. They've got the pulse,
that's right. Seven one three,two one two five seven ninety is the
number to join talking astros. JayRod, you're up first, jay Rod.
M m m mm. Tough man, tough, tough, tough,
jay Rod. Are you there?Yeah? Hello, yeah, Hello,

(44:35):
you're live on air. Hey,good morning morning guys. Hey, So
I'll tell you I've been an Astrosfan right since my youth. And I
don't proclaim to be a professional,you know, or a baseball mind god
it, you know, at all. But I will tell you one of
the things that I think I seeis these guys are all professionals, right,
they all know what's expected. Thenthey've all played at the very elitist
of levels, right, World Serieschampions, et cetera. But what I

(44:58):
see is, obviously think some ofwhat everybody else sees a little bit of
a lack of urgency. Right.I look around and I watch them there
in between innings, and it justdoesn't seem to me like they're really having
a good time, and rightfully so, right with considering all the losses.
But you know, they have tobe self starters, right. We can't
put this all on a spot,you know, or Dusty or any one

(45:19):
of the coaches, because they allknow what needs to be done and how
to going. So I don't necessarilythink it's it's really a coaching issue or
a management issue. I'm sure there'sbeen some things I don't agree with.
The spot on. But these guysare still professionals, right and know how
to perform as such. I justwonder if we've reached that point in time
where even the best and the biggestof bands, right may get long in

(45:45):
the tooth or kind of tired,not necessarily of each other stale, but
having a little bit of say again, it's a little bit stale, Ye,
exactly exactly, Sean. And Ithink you know it happens, right,
It's a naturally occurrent phenomenon in anyrelationship, you know, whether it's
a marriage or a friendship. Right, People you know, tend to grow

(46:06):
apart regardless of how close they've beenfor so long. And I just wonder,
you know, if that could bethe point we're reaching now with these
guys, because they've been together solong and played so well together so long
that maybe they're not necessarily interested inbeing here per se, but you know,
maybe they just think they need adifferent start somewhere else. Yeah,

(46:28):
great, great stuff. And inthat relationship you're talking about our marriage,
if it goes stale, you gottwo choices. You can let it continue
to go stale and do the samething and realize that it's done, and
like you said friendships change and youmove on and you kind of grow apart,
or if you want to save it, you got to what do you
do if you say no, no, it's grown apart, but we I
don't want to move on, Well, then you're gonna have to do something

(46:49):
different to shake it up or getback to the simple basics of why you
fell in love or had a greatfriendship in the first place, which is
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you through the second and third round. Talking about these Houston astros, It's

(48:21):
gut check time, says Mauricio Dubon. He says, quote, it's like
a slap in the face. There'sno other way to put it. We've
just got to find ways. Thingsare not going our way right now in
the first twenty six games. Itjust sucks. He's uh, what was
his first line. It's it's likea slap in the face, Okay.

(48:42):
And then Justin Verlander also spoke tothe media and he said, quote the
talent's there, it's gut check time. You've got a fight end quote.
Gut check time it is, solet me tell you this, if it
is gut check time. And rememberI add when when we talked to Dana
Brown asked about the men toughness ofhis team, and that's the same thing
as gut check. Yeah, sureit is, it is, and it's

(49:05):
here sooner than they wanted it tobe here. So I'll tell you this.
If if Mauricio Dubon and this teamis telling us did its gut check?
Time an urgency the manager's talking abouturgency has to pick up, then
then you know what you need toquit telling me, not you, but
anybody. It's early. Oh yeah. So if they're thinking, the players

(49:25):
are telling you this, that's exactlyso go buy them, yeah exactly,
because that, yeah, that meansthat don't don't give me the sixty game
there's no well it's sixty games.You can judge their urgency. They're already
concerned about it and you're twenty sixgames in. So if you want to
know the pulse of a team,follow what they're talking about and how they're
reacting to it, and then you'llknow the guys that are in the class.

(49:49):
That's exactly right, They've got thepulse. That's right. Seven one
three, two, one two fiveseven ninety is the number to join talking
astros, jay Rod, you're upfirst, Jay Rod. Mmmmm mmmm.
Tough man, tough, tough,tough, JD. Are you there?
Yeah, Hello, yeah, Hello, you're live on air. Hey,

(50:12):
good morning, morning guys. Hey. So I'll tell you I've been an
Astros fan right since my youth.And I don't proclaim to be a professional,
you know, or a baseball mindgod at you know, at all.
But I will tell you one ofthe things that I think I see
is these guys are all professionals,right, they all know what's expected.
Then they've all played at the veryelitist of levels, right, World Series
champs, et cetera. But whatI see is, obviously I think some

(50:36):
of what everybody else sees a littlebit of a lack of urgency. Right.
I look around and I watch themthere in between innings, and it
doesn't seem to me like they're reallyhaving a good time, and rightfully so,
right with considering all the losses.But you know, they have to
be self starters, right. Wecan't put this all on a spot of
you know, or Dusty or anyone of the coaches, because they all
know what needs to be done andhow to going. So I don't necessarily

(51:00):
think it's it's really a coaching issueor a management issue. I'm sure there's
been some things. I don't agreewith the spot on, but these guys
are still professionals, right and knowhow to perform as such. I just
wonder if we've reached that point intime where even the best and the biggest
of bands, right may get longin the tooth or kind of tired,

(51:22):
not necessarily of each other stale,but having a little bit of a say
again, it's a little bit stale. Yeah, exactly exactly, Sean.
And I think you know it happens, right, It's a naturally occurring phenomenon
in any relationship, you know,whether it's a marriage or a friendship,
right, People you know, tendto grow apart regardless of how close they've

(51:44):
been for so long. And Ijust wonder, you know, if that
could be the point we're reaching nowwith these guys, because they've been together
so long and played so well togetherso long that maybe they're not necessarily interested
in being here per se, butyou know, maybe they just think they
need a different start somewhere else.Yeah. Great, great stuff. And

(52:05):
in that relationship you're talking about ourmarriage, if it goes stale, you
got two choices. You can letit continue to go stale and do the
same thing and realize that it's done. And like you said, friendships change
and you move on and you kindof grow apart. Or if you want
to save it, you got towhat do you do if you say no,
no, it's grown apart, butwe I don't want to move on,
Well, then you're going to haveto do something different to shake it

(52:25):
up or get back to the simplebasics of why you fell in love or
had a great friendship in the firstplace, which is where I'd lean first.
I want to save what this one? I would do? Well,
what brought you? How'd you guysbecome so good? Well, we played
like a team that everybody was laughingat and we're tired of it. Bam.
We didn't get comfortable with wins.Bam. We sure as hell didn't

(52:49):
get comfortable with losses, and weweren't willing to accept them. It's a
great point by Jay Rodd. AndI'll also say this, I am one
hundred percent on board with the players. Take the majority. We've always said
you had the ball in your hand. My throat to the receiver isn't on
the head coach, It's on me. Now. All the stuff leading up
to it, the preparation the gameplan where you got me in the lineup
in game decisions on what the playcall is that falls on the head coach

(53:14):
or in this case, the manager. The players. The majority of this
falls right on the guys with thebat in their hand and the ball in
their hand. Simple. But JoeAspot is part of that and part of
this team, and he's not abovecriticism either. So while he's not the
main he's not taking to he's notfield and ground balls, but part of
getting them in position and doing itand making it almost forcing them to make

(53:36):
the adjustments and get comfortable with uncomfortablestuff. Maybe moving somebody else in the
lineup is uncomfortable, but oh well. And so while Joe Spot is not
the main reason obviously, just likeDusty Baker wasn't. Just like a Jam's
winn or lose, the players aregoing to do most of that, But
there are situations where the manager's personality, the way he approaches it lineup does

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have a big That's why managers getfired, and that's why sometimes they get
hired or rehired retreads because people trusthim and their experience. So Joe's spot
is part of the problem right now, he is part of it. I'm
not saying he's part of it.I don't want to sound too hot take
as here, but Sessey Baker's missedhere twenty six games in already. Yes,

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don't tell me to the problem.For me, he's more than part
of the problem. Fair enough.There is no urgency whatsoever under the helm
of Joe as spot out. Soyou're more a self starter. Like is
it on me or on Denny Green? God rest his soul when he was
alive? Was it on John Robinsonto get me to get going? Is
it on you to take your fourteenyear old and teach him how to do

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the lonely work and do the thingsare going? That's not on me,
that's on him. So that's onhim. He's got to be working outside
of practice. There you go.I'm I can't push you to do.
So what I always say, ifthey'll listen, give them the T shirt
that I'm getting printed up. Motivations, temporary, disciplines permanent. Yeah,
and they're operating on motivation inning toany day to day that you can't sustain

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greatness that way. The reason whythey've been great, they've been disciplined in
the most difficult times. Since they'vebeen on this run. If we're going
to give a manager credit for thewin, he's got to be part of
the problem with the losing. Butself start. I'm a big believer and
I don't need a motivational speech youget any going. But you're right,
Brian, there are certain words orcertain things you've got to do to know
the pulse of the player you're talkingwith, and each end of you got

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to know all twenty five of them, or twenty six of them, or
thirty of them, or twenty eightor fifty three of them. In football,
absolutely, you are one er present, correct. I may be I
don't want to say, haull pass, I may be letting it simmer a
little more than you better. It'snot. But he's not the problem.
But he is part of it,there is no question about it. He's
got to be better in right now, this team misses the leadership of Dusty

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Baker or the calmness in all thischaos that Dusty Baker brings. And right
now the difference is Joe spottam maybe a little too calm well, and
I think that's causing a little complacencywith this team place. The Gendler a
little bit for me to calm.That's an understatement. Where the where is
the fire? Yeah? I wouldhave got ejected and you would have heard
and saw everything, and I wouldhave had to say, man, yeah,

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I got to control a little.I would have had to It's like
I would have walked out there,started my apology because you know what you're
about to. You're about to Ineed you to kick me out. I'm
gonna go. Well, what dowe call it? Scorched earth? Yeah?
I needed that from him yesterday andwe didn't get it. His team
needed it more. Let's get tothe steake out next seven one, three,
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Sean, what are you hearing outthere now? The Salisbury steakouts?

(58:20):
Salsbury takeouts on the Sean Salisbury Show. It's time for the steak out here
on the Sewn Salisbury Show. SeanBrown and Tripley Astros swept by the Cubs
are in Mexico City tomorrow against theRockies. Caleb Williams Draft the number one
overall, Jade and Daniels number tworounds two and three. Tonight, Texans
have a couple of picks. We'llhave our seven ninety draft shows starting at

(58:42):
six o'clock right here on seven toninety. Adam Wester standing Northley, Dan
Matthews's gonna take you through every pickof the second and the third round of
the draft. Let's get to auh what are you you crip walking over
here? Couzin you see that tripleI'm a buggy, you know I got
that goup golf sacks on they getthey get caught on my calves a little
bit, you know, and wassomething you gotta like move your legs and

(59:06):
make the go down and s yourdrip? Sits right? Oh? Yeah,
you feel me? I know whatsits right? You drip? Yeah?
Oh, I think you said somethingelse. Dri think you said something.
You know what they call people withthe name of Richard. Yeah,
but I said that, Okay,I said my drip? What was that?

(59:27):
F I am fresh, My gosh, but I am fresh. Let's
get back out to the phone lines. Start with our guy, Brandon Brando.
Good morning, Good morning. What'shappening? Two things? I'm gonna
start with the Texans. Okay,I will watch the drop. I missed

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the drop last night. That's okay, you didn't miss much. And the
second thing, Astro needs to startgames threaped fourth time this season. Brandon,
not good. They're in Mexico Citythis weekend. You're gonna watch spot
On Brandon spot On? Yeah,yeah, what are you doing this week

(01:00:14):
in Seohn? I'm gonna play golf, work in my yard, go to
the shooting range, play some moregolf, handle my business, my man,
and do some cooking and get ready, said springtime coming up. I
got the things, got get readyfor the spring parties and stuff. Watch
a little baseball. I'm just gonnait's simple weekend for me. Hopefully it'll
last long and slow. You knowwhat I'm saying. Yeah, I'm with

(01:00:37):
you. I like I like myweekends to feel like they lasted eight days
instead of two and a half.I'm a man, you know what I'm
saying. I like that. Yeah. Who's playing the MLB? That for
Uh? Who's playing? What theAstros and Rockies? Yeah, they play
a two game series. They're offtoday right, often play two games and
then back home, I believe afterthat. So that's where it starts,

(01:01:00):
and it'll be hopefully a fun watchfor us. But there's a there's a
full, full slate of MLB gamesthis weekend. Uh, Brandon, you
got the Dodgers at Toronto, Oakland, A's at Baltimore, Chicago, Cubs
at Boston. Everyone's playing this weekend. Enjoy the weekend. Okay, Brandon,
be saved, buddy. Thanks forthe call. Thank you, Brandon.
Let's keep it going. Let's talkto age Town Wheelhouse. What what

(01:01:27):
is up? Sean? What's up? Brian? How A y'all doing all
good man? How are you goodman? Appreciate the call? Yeah,
definitely, now man, You knowwhat, I love it when I call
twice and the phone line's busy.That means you guys are blowing up in
the morning. As always, I'vebeen one of the best morning shows in
all of Houston, but one ofthem specific. Okay, look here,

(01:01:50):
I need I need Sean and Ineed Brian. You know, I would
join you guys if I could.I need this to walk into that clubhouse
and just start breaking stuff like BillyBean and moneyball and try to motivate this
group. But in all seriousness,what I what I'm afraid is gonna have
to happen is they're gonna have toget to the brink of basically saying,

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mathematically, if this team doesn't winthis many games in this time span,
that they're absolutely gonna be eliminated fromthe playoffs and get to that point.
And they may have to get tothat point before they wake the hell up
because they've won so much, They'vedone so much, and I you know,
I don't know if that stuff.You know, I've never been,
you know, an MLB player,and I've never had that much success and

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maybe not making the playoffs may help, but the spoonful of sugar isn't helping
any vinegar and everything that comes withit. And just like you guys are
like doing these relationship parallels, likeif you're if you're in a relationship,
you don't ever want to go backto what it was. You want to
get to get to a place whereit's better than what it was. And

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I don't know how they get there, but a spotted doesn't seem to be
helping. Like Brian, that ejectionwas that was kind of embarrassing. My
co host unlocked On said, yeah, hey, I'm not gonna yell at
you, but can you throw meout to hopefully, you know, get
my players fired up? And thenhe just walks off. It was like,
what was that car, I wouldn'tknow. Yeah, that was so

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bad. It's a bad look.Bottom line is we know what these guys
are capable of. We know itabsolutely, and they do too. They
just I mean, the only thingthat's gonna work is them actually doing the
job. And what does Bregman sayingall the time executing and it just doesn't
seem like they're super motivated. Nogreat appreciate it. I appreciate you.

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Here's what I'll tell you, andand and he's right about this part too.
And I think it also extends tothis, is there needs to be
some disruption going on, not justwith the record. We see that the
disruption that what got them to begood in the first place we've talked about.
But here there's what. I know. What you did in twenty twelve,
twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twentytwenty one, twenty twenty three is

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not always going to be the samething you got to do in twenty twenty
four. Everything evolves and moves.Right now, the basics you'd like to
do, feel the ground ball,throw a guy out, run the bases,
properly, get runners across. Butwhen you're in a situation like this,
you cannot continue to be complacent andjust kind of say, well,
we're the Astros. Nobody gives arats asset. They're the Astros right now,

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you're the frigging Chicago White Sox.Now soak that one in. It's
tough. No one gives a damnif you're the astrosu And also if you're
thinking, oh, we're the ashroals, we'll figure it out. Well,
they're they're figuring out how to lose. You better figure it out before you're
fifteen games out, because if they'refifteen games out, they're not winning the
division. No, No, they'resix and a half out right now.

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It's only gonna get the worse theykeep losing it. Yeah, but if
the astros are basically telling you it'snot early, they're telling you there's got
to be a sense of urgency theplayers, Like we said, then we
better take out because this isn't Hey, it's early. We'll see in game
sixty play like this. By gamesixty you can forget that. I mean,
then then you'll see trades and they'llyou'll be time to tear it up
and move around. That's what it'llbe time to do. If that's the

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case. So they can't continue togo like this, and why wait,
why wait, you won't be thechase mode the whole time. Get it
done. You need to Susie.Good morning, Okay, Dooky, it's
doctor Roger. Roger, what's happening? Good morning, Sean Ryan Man,
you Edward L. Moore, justmake no mistake, you call it.

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This is a base radio talk showin all of God's career, Make no
mistake about it, right, Roger? Thanks you so that said, I
really think I just really think you'reright. Of the team takes a personality
to coach, and the coach hasno personality. Where there you go,
Hey, what what kind of contractis this spot off? He's got a

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one year deal? Am I correct? Let me double check that for you.
And why would anybody sign a oneI guess if you haven't had a
gig, you'd sign a one yeardeal, But why would you? I
don't know why you would sign aone year deal. If you did,
you might be right, but Ithought it was longer than that. One
year deals seem a little bit.That's lame duck going in instead of coming
out. Right. Yeah, that'swhat That's what I'm saying. I think

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it was. It was gassed beforeit started, man, because they didn't
have no really no confidence in thisguy, because they gave him a one
year deal like a trial run basis. I mean, I mean, obviously
they knew something we didn't. Becausethis guy is he's a he's an experiment.
This team is not long for experiment. We've gotta have guys, you
know, proven, proven vets togo in there and leave these guys and

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and and get him going. Tome, it seems like he might be
one of those coaches that that just, you know, just kind of hang
back and let that let the bigdogs do what they do. But when
the big dogs ain't doing what youneed to do, you know, you
got to have that Boys're gonna havethat leadership. I don't think that's happening
right now anyway. If it thinksthat this has happened to my stros and
and and that's fine, but youwant to pass the torch to the Texans

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and let them lead the way andtake a straggle hold of the s He's
in sports team, and so beit. I'm about to go buy some
hos some Texans swagging oh while.But I just I just feel like there's
something amiss, something that we're notsomething we don't know, something we are
not privy to the park to bein a note right now. But it's
something going on, and I justhope that it gets it fixed. But

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I just want to watch competitive baseball. That's all. Appreciate it, thanks
for the compliment. Here's what IHere's what I don't want to hear,
Bryan. This hit me and Istarted to put together and I'm not saying
but you know the conversation we're havingabout the Astros right now, you know
what it reminds me of Groundhog Day. No lifelong assistant coach. Everybody loves

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comes highly regarded. Who's that soundlike the Texans three years ago, Lovey
Smith? No before him? Oh, David Cully. I was gonna say,
yeah, nice, all the playerslove I think the highest of the
players love and like a maybe acope, a passing game guy. I

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don't want to start to hear thatcomparison, right it's or I get it.
But you know what I'm saying,because David Cully, the fire we
co question what was going on ongame day. The players all loved him
as a guy. That's something youdon't want to start to let creep in.
This came. I mean, Joe'sbetter than a one year experiment.
I don't know what his contract.I can't gissin, but I can tell

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you that at least going in,we all felt it. And it's still
too early to judge anybody. Youwouldn't judge a player in this many games,
but you do. You do haveto only judge by what you see,
and right now he along with theplayers, but Joe doesn't have a
batn as hand. We said itabout Dusty and we'll say it about anybody.
You got to swing the bat better, But it is the manager's responsibility
to run it out there and makethe end game decisions that are necessary.
And if you're going to get kickedout, you'd probably like to see a

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tad more energy. You see.You see the comparisons I'm talking about,
right yeah, And you don't wantto see that, No, you sure
don't because they didn't respond to DavidCully or to Lovey Smith and both success
in their careers. Beloved by players. But guess what, beloved by players
can still get you out of that. That's right, that's what we saw.

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Houston Astros being swept by the Cubs. Steve, good morning, How you
doing? How you doing? Guys? Okay, So that drip? Did
I hear the lord? Drip?Drip? You did? Okay? So
for the first letter, I'll letyou figure out, but the second,
third, and fourth letter would beresting in place on this note. Okay.

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When I was in Dales a longtime ago, I sold insurance.
So Monday I sold one hundred thousanddollars policy. Tuesday, I sold one
hundred thousand plus the Wednesday didn't doanything. Thursday the people from Monday and
Tuesday canceled. So I guess Wednesdaywas my best day. So I guess
today is our best day. Rightas far as the askers are concerned,

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what I'm saying is my only questiontoday is let's just say we have a
bad year. I won't belabor thefact that it's a bad year already,
but let's just say this goes on. Will this be the disassembling of the
Astros as we know it? AndI'll hang up an answer and listen on
my radio. Thank you, Steve. That's a pretty good question, and

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I think he I think yes itis. I think we will see some
major changes. So the so thatthe question will be asked, excuse me,
or you'll start to get the speculation. Now, when we say a
failure of a season, does thatmean like go to hell and hand basket
like play like this, the wholeplay like this the whole year. Well,
Bragman won't be here, No,he's gone. He'll be traded,
and you think will be traded aswell? Right, agree, I wouldn't

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be surprised if Justin Ferland is tradedor that may just be finished out your
career and go get your wins.We want you a part of the three
hundred win club here, right becausein truth, guys had two starts and
he's grinding his ass off. He'sa pro. His is a refuse,
little loose yes, and so yeah, I think that you would see change.
I'd start to think that you'd seethe Yainer Diaz is the Trey Cavages

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who's been brought up for these twogames in Colorado, with against Colorado in
Mexico City, you may start tosee the low perfieit. That's when you'd
start to let's see what pedro Leonlooks like in the last forty or fifty
games or obviously not there yet.But if this continues, Steve's right on
when you say disassemble, is ita wholesale changes? I guess if you
say three or four guys, wholesalechange. But there'll be some stars that

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will be gone, yes, orperceive stars, they will be gone yes,
and then you're gonna it's it's howthey get to that point. If
it's close and it just injuries,they don't get healthy. You know,
the mcclors, would he be back. There's gonna be a lot of speculation
over this if they continue to playlike this, and the speculation will say
was the manager right for the job. If this is the optics, you

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get the rest of here, whichI look at this team and in truth,
I feel like they can stumble intoeighty wins because they're that talented.
But guess what, it just goesto show you you can't not at this
rate. That's exactly right. Andyou know what, one of the things
that we've heard all uh, youknow, we got reinforcements come and Lance
mcaullor's junior, Christian haavey Oric obviouslywe obviously here recently, Christian Javier will

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be back from er Valdez will beback. Then we'll have reinforcements with Luis
Garcia and Lance mcullor's coming back.You keep playing like this and going one
for sixteen and two games with Undersonscoring position, it won't matter come August
or late July, when those guyscome back, it won't matter. You
got you gotta freaking figure this outnow, and it starts in Mexico City.

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You have to go win both thosegames. Let me ask you this,
Are we arrogant enough here to thinkthat it doesn't matter ten twelve,
fifteen games, we're that good?I got news for you. The way
they're playing, I think I gotjust but yeah, no, but I
think overall the overall pictures, andI think it's to me. Well keep
hearing. Oh it's early, it'searly. Have you had your twenty six
games in and you're seven to nineteen. Well, we've all got caught in
the trap you and oh, comeon, dude, they're gonna they're gonna

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figure it out. Oh sure,yeah at the beginning to see it won't
matter the guy guys should they justthey figure it out that somebody will carry
him, for you know, theJordan will car him, the hitting will
carry the pitching, and vice versa. And you will stumble your eighty games
in the last thirty they'll find theirway in. That's how we think.
So that is a sense of arrogance, and you know what, that leads
to complacency, the complacency part ofwe're that good. But it comes apart

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in all teams where you get that. We saw it with Seattle Super Seahawks.
Then the similarity legion of Boom brokeup. They're done. Questions about
the coach? Is Pete Stan whatabout Russ Wilson? Oh, this defensive
guy wants more money, This guywants more credit. This guy doesn't believe
he's getting the credit he deserves.That next thing, you know all that
this is the best clubhouse in thebusiness. I'm gonna tell you what leadership,

(01:15:38):
what lack thereof, or club losingwill do to you. It will
test your metal to the point ofthen you're going to start to find out
where the clicks, if they doexist. You want to know what really
not when you're winning a Hunter games, it's this how do you elevate and
step up to the top step?And I know it sounds cheesy, but
Brian, I do think that weall were included, some fans, some

(01:15:59):
media, even the ass of themselves. Get to the point do they know
who we are? And although thatcan't be your mental thought process, but
you know what, I want themto act like, play like do you
know who the we are? Andget back to playing like that that swagger.
So there's that fine line of arroganceto where you're complacent and you're fifteen
games out and you got no shotor the arrogance of we're not playing good

(01:16:21):
baseball. But I'll be damned ifI'm going to let this continue Somewhere in
between there, somebody's got to findit, and they're not, so I
hate to tell them this. They'renot good enough to play bad and still
win ninety games. Very few teamsare, and very few teams I know
in all the sports. This team'sbeen one of them the last seven years.

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Can turn it on and off likea light switch. They I don't
think they got swept five times inseries last year. They've already been swept
for Yeah, and I know,yeah, it's early, but they're telling
you that they have to have urgency. So that tells me it's not early.
Exactly. That tells me it's notearly. Ban Good morning, Good
morning. Have your Friday Fellas.Quick comment this morning? Maybe a couple

(01:17:08):
of quick comments, First and foremostthe Joe Aspata At this point, nor
do the Astros have control of theoverall narrative of the story that they're trying
to tell and sell to the Astrosfan base. Dusty Baker absolutely had control

(01:17:30):
of the narrative. You didn't haveto You could question his calls and disagree
with him, but the overall leadershipthat came out of his experience is the
other point that I wanted to makewith respect to Joe Aspata and his young
career as the manager. The onlyother thing I'll say is the movie Remember
the Titans. Attitude reflects leadership,captain, and right now the attitude is

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not reflective of the leadership. Guyshave a good Friday than a point yep.
I don't know. I don't knowwhat you add that man that was.
I mean, he's right, he'sexactly right, and I just I
don't I don't know. I'll tellyou this about coming home. This is

(01:18:15):
going to be harsh, but Iwill tell you this. They're not worth
the price of admission right now.No, they're not, so I need
I'm not going there to spend fifteenbucks on a beer. Well, you
kidding me? In a good seat, you're going to drop a buck fifty
hard pass man, Listen to me. I'm just telling you right now,
right now, some individuals are andyou hope that you're buying the ticket to
see them get out of it,right You know what you say when you

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go watch bad teams play in ChicagoWhite Sox. You know what they're saying
right now in Colorado, you knowwhat they're saying. Honest to God,
they're waiting for the other team tocome to town so you can watch their
star play this team today. Yougot to start to show why these fans
who work hard, that will gogoing to pay a hundie a C note
for a ticket and leave their fourhundred dollars lighter in the wallet with a

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hat and the rest of it.I'm just talking about twenty twenty four.
I'm not talking about the future.I'm not talking about the past and this
great organization. But right now,the way they're playing give you no reason
to want to sit in the standsthrough nine innings. You got to give
them a reason in twenty twenty fourbecause right now they're not worth the price
of admission, not at those prices. Got to fix it. Yeah,

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they're due at those prices. Arenot worth it. They're not worth a
triple a price right now. Yeah, And that's you want to talk about,
harsh. It's not personal, it'sjust a fact. And like I
said, this is a mirror typesituation for them. Got to start to
look at it and gather what youcan ain't a matter if I confess,
I got to get the other guyto do it. And it's not going
to change until that happens. Baseball, these players in this league are too

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good. Yep. Eventually you getcaught up and you get caught and left
behind. This team. If they'retelling me they got to be urgent,
it's telling me it's not too early. Frustrating. Oh yeah, who do
you think you are missed? Too? Big? Stuff? Feel me?

(01:20:05):
Why'd you just gaze in my eyeswhen you said that? Bricked up?
Mary? Are you talking about losses? No, whims, got a couple
of pluses and minuses. And hey, Dak Prescott's our quarterback. We get
to suck on that all week.Yeah, and Troy come on, is
a Hall of Famer and we aren'tplaying very well and you get to suck

(01:20:28):
on that all week. Oh mygosh, I am a I am a
fan. So there you go.Gotta make it worth it, you got
you gotta give these fans a reasonwhen you come back home to sit in
the ball. Give me a reason. Just a little bit too much?
What do you get asked to break? Let's go to break seven three two

(01:20:53):
five, seven ninety. How youfeeling Astros fans, how'd you feel about
that ejection last night from Joe's spotand no fire at all? Let's talk
about it next the Seawan Salisbury Show. Put hours smart ass on your smart
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(01:21:13):
morning. We'll probably have a couplemore throughout the show, as we do
every single We're just trying to takeyour mind off seven and nineteen. Yeah,
a seven hour seven night. Yeah, we're just trying to take your
mind off seven and nineteen. Ohmy gosh, you know what happens.
Yeah, let me take your mindoff a little more. All four chairs
turn around. Oh yeah, exactly. On the voice for Nate Pink,
I'm for you, Rob. Weappreciate you holding what's going on? God,

(01:21:40):
I'm gonna start off with one comment, but I'm gonna tell you I
think whatever is happening in Houston's startingto go to youll's heads a little bit.
A couple of kaoke sessions. I'mRob, Rob, Rob, We're
nut jobs many Well, Bro,you think you needed to tell Rob that?
I'm just saying already knows that weget up at like three thirty four
o'clock in the morning every day tobring entertainment and sports stuff to you guys.

(01:22:02):
That sometimes it goes to your head. You know. We're broken,
not bent though. Yeah, heywe can learn to love again. We
really can't. Rob. How youdoing, man? What's on your mind?
Guys? I didn't watched the gameyesterday, obviously of the day game.
So when I got on the roadafter work and heard that Joe's Spotty
got tossed, I gotta be honest, I was pumped at first when I

(01:22:24):
heard that. I called in Adamand Adam yesterday to tell them this,
and then I went and watched thevideo and pretty much I asked them straight
up. I was like, didhe just walk up and ask to get
tossed? Because I've never seen amore emotionless toss out. And well,
I mean I kind of came toyou know, epiphany if you will,

(01:22:46):
when I was riding into work thismorning. Now there are three Joe's so
far between Joe Biden, Joe West, and Joe's spot is quickly climbing the
ranks of the Bad Joe Mount Rushmore. Here as far as I'm concerned.
And you know, the one thingthat I never ever thought I would say

(01:23:06):
this guy's in a taste bad comingout of my mouth here. But when
it comes to emotions and decision making, there there's a there's a tie to
be made there. And one thingabout Joe westwell, he may have made
a lot of wrong decisions and badcalls, he was decisive than every one
of them. And I can respectbad aspect of it because even a bad

(01:23:27):
decision is better than no decision.And I feel like somebody else is I
don't know if somebody else is pullingthe strings here. And I definitely looking
back at all of Joe's moves rightup to them, sending France down and
and keeping Hunter up, it's it'sbaffling. It's not just a lack of
emotion. You know. When Dusty, Dusty always kept it calm and cool,

(01:23:49):
had the aviators on, you know, just chilled in the dugout.
But boy, when he got upwhen he needed to defend his players,
he was there. Yep. Ifyou're getting out of the I got to
go and have a word with theumpire, you know, you you know,
either I'm gonna go and get tossedor this is gonna be a regular
argument or a regular discussion. Thatwas a discussion that somehow led to a

(01:24:12):
toss. That's not a that's nota game plan. There's zero motivation there.
None of it makes sense. Soit's it goes back to what I've
said the last couple of times I'vecalled you, guys, what's he doing?
Is he lost? Does he notknow what he's doing? And I
think again the lack of incentive,the lack of emotion, And now it
banks to the question does he reallyhave any clue what he's doing, because

(01:24:35):
it seems like he's completely lost.Guys. Thank you Rob. Rob's got
so many valid points that that thatI'm with him. I was like,
you're getting tossed, okay, Ican't wait till he turns around and goes
back and doubles down on it,right, goes back that that that ejection
make you throw up in your mouthif you're looking for a real ejection.
Yeah, but it does. Itparallels exactly what you're seeing from the they're

(01:25:00):
playing. Yeah, this is exactlyright. It goes hand in hand.
It's it was we're not used tosaying this, and maybe we all took
winning for granted, But I've toldyou a million times. Man, when
it's hard and you just you decideto get a little comfortable, and too
comfortable, you get bypassed. Man. Yeah, he didn't run right by
you. One thing I want toknow is there are there any fans or

(01:25:20):
listeners that still think, oh it'searly seven one three two one two five
seven ninety. Let us know isit still too early? Because Joe Spotta
himself said there needs to be moreurgency in that clubhouse. We'll hear that
audio and discuss it next. Aswe keep talking about the astro struggle seven
one three two one two five sevenninety. Leo, Ray, Jesse Hey
Zeus will also get to you.Let's keep talking about it. Sean right

(01:25:43):
here on Sports Talk seven ninety aHouston, HD two Houston. Then iHeart
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(01:26:13):
this. Sean Salisbury there to USCTroupes. Longtime friend Shawn Salisbury Ryan Lo
Lima, Go Lobos. This isthe Sean Salsbury Show. We're also going
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(01:26:35):
with us every Friday during football season. On also tonight's seven to ninety Draft
Show, Adam Wexer standing Northfleet andDan Matthews gonna take you through every pick
of the second and third round ofthe NFL Draft talking Houston Astros. This
is what Joe Espada had to sayafter the loss last night. There they're

(01:26:55):
fighting, man, you know,they they want they want to get back
to playing the ty for baseball thatwe that we are, that were capable
of. But but he's not happening, and he's not going to happen unless
we change. Like, no one'sgoing to handles anything. This is we
we have to fight through this.Is there a team that could do it?
Is his club. So I Iknow they will turn these things around,

(01:27:17):
But there's got to be more urgency, There's got to be more more
fire in. You know, inthe middle of the game where we found
ourselves back against the corner, wejust got to fight, fight, and
if we do that, we'll we'llbe fine. That's Joe spot. He
also got ejected last night for thefirst time in his career as lackluster to
say the least. That won't godown in his Hall of Fame ejections.

(01:27:38):
He didn't get his money's worth outof that one. Dude. I'm I'm,
I'm, I'm kicking dirt on themon the plate, I'm yelling,
I'm cussing. I'm doing something tobe memorable, to send a message.
But I'm doing it earlier in thegame. You weren't doing it for anybody
else but your team, right.He put his hand over his face until
he tells me different, and we'llnever hear the him or Umpire say it.

(01:28:00):
There's no doubt in my mind.I will I will bet on this.
He went and told him, Igot you got to run me ah
and if I if you're the umpire, you know what after that, that's
fine. I'd have been shocked atthe way you I'm sure he'said in a
thing. Well, okay, Joe, are you gonna you're gonna cuss me?
What do we do here? Youknow we planning? How are we

(01:28:21):
doing this, He turned around awalk like he was in a public library,
and they told him to sh orhe disappointed his dad in a meeting
and he had to go back tohis room and he lost his phone for
a week. He got put ina time out. I just don't I
mean, I know that's maybe nota big deal, that has nothing to
do with the way they're playing,but in the big scheme of things,
maybe it's part of it. Hetalks about fire, don't you take on

(01:28:45):
the personality head coach fire. Ifyou're going to talk it, you have
to walk it as well. Andyes, they're capable, but and I
know they they want to play goodof course they do. And you want
to manage good baseball, of coursethey do. But you can't keep talking
and staying on the same road asI talk about unpaid and paved roads.
They're on an unpaved road. Youbetter start to get comfortable with it,
because that's going to be like thisall year. They're not winning twenty straight.

(01:29:08):
They're not good enough to do thatright now. And so the fire
or get it going. So isis he gonna throw a chair? Well,
that's not in his personality. Butyou're asking your teammates to be to
you, the players you're managing.It goes both way. Is that just
Joe? And like I said,if you're Alex Bregman or your jose al
Twov, I don't need some managerto tell me were playing like crap right

(01:29:30):
now executing that crap. But Ican tell you this, Here's what I
always say. You don't when coacheslike lose their job, they say,
well, we didn't want him tolose his job. We love having him
here. Then you better do somethingabout it. Yeah, yeah, that's
my when everybody said, well wedon't really, Well, you won seventy
five games. You love the manager. I'm sure you do. He's your
good buddy, good buddy, Andguess what you have to do. You

(01:29:51):
have to play for somebody else.So obviously still premature, but how early
is it when you tease the question, it's a good point, they're they're
telling us. It's not a nowyeah, sense of urgency. So uh,
Joe could have sent a louder messagewith the ejection yesterday. But the
performance of this team right now mirrorswhat we see from him of a lack

(01:30:12):
of daysical lack of energy. Ifthere is fight it better start to rear
its head. That's not everybody,but the alls we're judging is the whole,
the umbrella part of the team,you know, because one guy's playing
well, if your team's not winning, you got to judge the team,
right, That's part of it.And even the good ones, the good
players that are playing well, howtwo based the one they're not. They're
not playing well with runners in scoringposition, they're not getting the clutch hit

(01:30:34):
over six yesterday, one for tenthe day before seven seven Leo, good
morning, good morning fellas. Uh. Uh prop to your show man.
It's it's one of the best showsout there. And and that's why I
listen. Yeah, I'm not gonnasay anything different than anybody else's not saying.
I mean it, it's that lacklusser performance. Uh, and the

(01:30:59):
attitude, the body language. Uh, it's just for me, it's just
not there this year. They're stillmy team no matter what. They're always
going to be your team, man, right, They're always going to be
right, right, yeah, nomatter what. And you know, it's
just it's it's just uh. AndI think it's just what you guys have
been saying. We're so used tothese guys winning and and seeing great performances

(01:31:20):
from these guys. As a team, I think we got spoiled and and
there's nothing wrong with that every teamthat goes through it. So and it's
just baseball. You know. Theygot to turn it around. And if
they don't pretty quick, then then, uh, it's gonna be real difficult
down the road. And you know, this is major league baseball. This
is not a ball or rookie leagueuh stuff. Uh. You know,

(01:31:44):
so I think the sense of urgencyis there, and I think they're feeling
it, you know. And andbut again, we have to at least
give them some uh credit. Theyare professional baseball players and and they do
know how to make adjustments. We'rejust not seeing it right now. So
uh uh and that's all I goton that. And then uh, Brian,

(01:32:06):
Uh, the word on the streetis that you've got sexy cabs?
Did Donald tell you to say thathe? Do you talk? Next time

(01:32:26):
you talk to Donald, tell himthat that I'm missing man, and and
uh and uh, I miss coachingwith him. And man, that's one
of the funniest stories. If I'msure he told you about it. But
man, yeah, that's good time. Tell me the story. Man,
I was laughing. I saw himlast night and stuff and uh, but
uh I talked to him. Youknow, I'm gonna he wants me to
help him out over he's over atfour ben Baptists. Yeah. I didn't

(01:32:47):
know that. Yeah. Yeah,good for him, man, Yeah,
Leo, tell him, tell myself. I missed him. Man, please,
I'll tell him. Brother, Iappreciate it. Enjoy the weekend,
Leo. Thanks for the you guyshave a great weekend. Than thanks Leo.
Let's keep it shout out to tellyou that story. You'll you'll enjoy
that one. He's at four beingChristian for Been Baptists. Yeah, running
the baseball program. Let's talk toRay. Hey, Ray, Uh you

(01:33:09):
got me? Uh you got afemale with you this morning. Oh it's
my wife. Oh okay, allright, yeah, good things. A
good thing. You didn't call herazoid man. I no, I just
want to make sure Jason was yourwife, your mom. I don't know
what you got going up on upthere in Montana. Man. Damn.
Oh, I'm gonna be going towork here in about twenty minutes, but
UH must come to that point anhour behind y'all. Dude, he's he's

(01:33:33):
there's Mountain to ask me. Niceman. He's out there and Montana.
Probably we're probably up at four doingchores they do in Montana. Right,
It's all there. That's my man, baby. Maybe. Okay, I
got a couple of points. OneA spot has checked out. I don't
know if y'all believe that or not, but he's checked out. I had
Houston, Houston, and I heardradio station Courts to set the rockets your

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(01:34:26):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. Thisis the Sean Salsbury Show. We're
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Draft show, Adam Wester Standing Northfleetand Dan Matthews going to take you through

(01:34:49):
every pick of the second and thirdround of the NFL Draft talking Houston Astros,
this is what Joe Espada had tosay after the loss last night.
They're they're fighting, man, youknow. They they want they want to
get back to playing the type ofbaseball that we that we are, that
were capable of. But but he'snot happening, and he's not going to

(01:35:11):
happen unless we change. Like,no one is going to handles anything.
This is we we have to fightthrough this. Is there a team that
could do it? Is his club, So I I know they will turn
these things around, but there's gotto be a little more urgency. There's
got to be more more fire inyou know, in the middle of the
game where we we find ourselves backagainst the corner. We just got to

(01:35:31):
fight, fight, and if wedo that, we'll we'll be fine.
That's Joe Spotta. He also gotejected last night for the first time in
his career as lackluster to say theleast. That that won't go down in
his Hall of Fame ejections. Hedidn't get his money's worth out of that
one. Dude. I'm i'm,i'm, I'm kicking dirt on them on
the plate, I'm yelling, I'mcussing. I'm doing something to be memorable,

(01:35:55):
to send a message, but I'mdoing it earlier in the game.
You weren't doing it for anybody elsebut your team. Right when he put
his hand over his face until hetells me different and they we'll never hear
the him or the umpire say it. There's no doubt in my mind.
I will I will bet on this. He went and told him, I
got you got to run me ahand if I if you're the umpire,

(01:36:16):
you know what after that, that'sfine. I'd have been shocked at the
way you I'm sure he's sitting athing. Well, okay, Joe,
are you gonna you're gonna cuss me? What do we do here? You
know? We plan? How arewe doing this? He turned around a
walk like he was in a publiclibrary, and they told him to sh
or he disappointed his dad in ameeting and he had to go back to
his room and he lost his phonefor a week. He got put in

(01:36:38):
a time out. I just don'tI mean, I know that's maybe not
a big deal that has nothing todo with the way they're playing, but
in the big scheme of things,maybe it's part of it. He talks
about fire, don't you take onthe personality head coach fire. If you're
gonna talk it, you have towalk it as well. And yes,
they're capable, but and I knowthey they want to play good first.

(01:37:00):
They do, and you want tomanage good baseball, of course they do.
But you can't keep talking and stayingon the same road as I talk
about unpaved and paved roads. They'reon an unpaved road. You better start
to get comfortable with it because that'sgoing to be like this all year.
They're not winning twenty straight. They'renot good enough to do that right now,
and so the fire get it going. So is he gonna throw a

(01:37:21):
chair? Well that's not in hispersonality. But you're asking your teammates to
be to you, the players you'remanaging. It goes both way. Is
that just Joe? And like Isaid, if you're Alex Bregman or your
Jose L two V, I don'tneed some manager to tell me were playing
like like crap right now executed thatcrap. But I can tell you this.
Here's what I always say. Youdon't want coaches like lose their job.

(01:37:41):
They say, well, we didn'twant him to lose his job.
We love having him here, thenyou better do something about it. Yeah.
Yeah, that's when everybody said,well we don't really well, you
won seventy five games. You lovethe manager. I'm sure you do.
He's your good buddy, good buddy, and guess what you have to do.
You have to play for somebody else. Obviously still premature, but how

(01:38:01):
early is it? When you teasethe question, it's a good point.
They're they're telling us it's not earlynow. Yeah, sense urgency. So
uh, Joe could have sent alouder message with the ejection yesterday. But
the performance of this team right nowmirrors what we see from him of a
lack of daysical lack of energy.If there is fight, it better start

(01:38:24):
to rear its head. That's noteverybody, but the alls. We're judging
as the whole, the umbrella partof the team. You know, because
one guy's playing well, if yourteam's not winning, you got to judge
the team, right, that's partof it. And even the good ones,
the good players that are playing well, how two based the one they're
not. They're not playing well withrunners in scoring position, they're not getting
the clutch hit over six yesterday onefor ten the day before seven five seven,

(01:38:45):
Leo, good morning, Good morningfellas. Uh uh prop to your
show man. It's it's one ofthe best shows out there. And and
that's why I listen. Yeah,I'm not gonna say anything different. They
didn'tbody else is not saying. Imean it. It's that Lacklusser performance.
Uh, and the attitude, thebody language. Uh, it's just for

(01:39:08):
me, it's just not there thisyear. They're still my team no matter
what. They're always going to beyour team, man, right, They're
always gonna be right right, Yeah, no matter what. And you know,
it's just it's it's just uh.And I think it's just what you
guys have been saying. We're soused to these guys winning and and seeing
great performances from these guys. Asa team, I think we got spoiled

(01:39:30):
and and there's nothing wrong with that. Every team that goes through it.
So and it's just baseball. Youknow, they got to turn it around,
and if they don't pretty quick thenthen, uh, it's gonna be
real difficult down the road. Andyou know, this is major league baseball.
This is not a ball or rookieleague. Uh. Stuff Uh.
You know, so I think thesense of urgency is there, and I

(01:39:54):
think they're feeling it, you know. And and but again, we have
to at least give them some uhcredit. They are professional baseball players and
and they do know how to makeadjustments. We're just not seeing it right
now. So uh uh and that'sall I got on that. And then
uh, Brian, Uh, theword on the street is that you've got

(01:40:16):
sexy caves. Uh. Did Donaldtell you to say that? Jut O,
Hey, do you talk next timeyou talked to Donald? Tell him
that that I'm missing man and anduh and uh, I miss coaching with

(01:40:36):
him. And and man, that'sone of the funniest stories. If I'm
sure he told you about it.But man, yeah, that's good.
Tell me the story. Man,I was laughing. I saw him last
night and stuff and uh, butuh, I talked to it. You
know, I'm gonna he wants meto help him out over He's over at
four Ben Baptist's. I didn't knowthat. Yeah, Yeah, good for
him, man, Yeah, tellhim tell myself. I miss him,

(01:40:59):
man, please, I'll tell him. Brother. I appreciate it. Enjoy
the weekend, Leo. Thanks forthe calls away, you guys have a
great weekend. Thanks le Let's keepit rolling Sea. Not to tell you
that story. You'll you'll enjoy thatone. He's a four being Christian for
been Baptist. Yeah, run inthe baseball program. Let's talk to Ray.
Hey, Ray, Uh you gotme? Uh you got a female
with you this morning? Oh it'smy wife. Oh okay, all right,

(01:41:21):
yeah, good thing. It's agood thing. You didn't call her
azoid? Man. I no,I just want to make sure was your
wife your mom. I don't knowwhat you got going up on up there
in Montana. Man, damn bro, I'm gonna be going to work here
in about twenty minutes, but uhmust point an hour behind y'all. Dude,
he's as mountain toss me. Niceman, he's out there Montana.

(01:41:44):
Probably we've probably up at four doingchores they do in Montana. Right,
it's all there. That's my man, baby. Maybe Okay, I got
a couple of points. One Aspot has checked out. I don't know
if y'all believe that or not,but he's checked out. I've had more
respect for him. Boards just gotup, walked out and told them,
well, you guys, don't wantto play. I'm not going to manage

(01:42:04):
you two during the All Star break. I don't let them anybody go to
it. I tell them that we'regoing to practice, and I schedule playing
against A and M and see ifthey can actually beat A and M and
A pretty good. Yeah, Itell them, are you scared? And

(01:42:30):
then if they lose, you guysthink you're so great. You just lost
to a college team. You're lookingfor that humble pie. You're looking for
that humble pie. Correct, Yeah, they think they're No one cares.
I mean, the fans care aboutthe twenty twenty two World Series, but
those two years ago, two yearsago, who cares? I mean,

(01:42:53):
I've already put my hat away onthat one. So I'll hang up,
and sure, I have to saythank you. The truth is with that
is obviously if they go to theAll Star Games, they're gonna have to
go. I mean that they wantedto go, but there is I get
his point about the humble Pie thatmaybe you got to get back sometimes you

(01:43:15):
got to get back to the oldroots, right, the roots of who
they are. I know that soundsso yeazy, the roots of your labor.
They enjoy the fruits of your labor. No, but roots, okay,
the roots of your labor? Isthat one of your favorite quotes from
somebody, But you do, andright now it almost feels like they fallen
into the I know I've been guiltyof it with this team you have.

(01:43:40):
I think the fans have that.We're like, well, wait a second,
you're not allowed to play like this, and then we all start looking
for reasons because wow, this's justthe Astras like Mikey and the Life Cereal
commercial for the little bit older crowd. Oh yeah, you mean the guy.
We'll do anything, Mike, you'lldo it. Oh, the Astra
is no problem. You do whateveryou want. They'll find a way to
get it done. We'll eat thatserial. And right now that's not working

(01:44:00):
out. So you're gonna have todo some uncomfortable stuff to change some things.
And it's going to start with themanager making sure he sends a message
and players being realizing that he's right. Twenty twenty two World Series doesn't mean
a hill of beans because the lastmemory we have is getting beat at home
when you had a one game wellneeded one win and got beat by the
Rangers twice and they went on wonthe World Series. If that doesn't chap

(01:44:21):
your ass, I don't know whatwill other than a seven and nineteen start.
Yeah, they I mean I thinkit starts with the manager. I
mean, obviously he's leading the helmand then you know it's it's it's like,
what's my buddy? Victor Hugo says, perseverance is the secret of all
triumphs eight twelve, Yeah, documentedearly man, twelve early, that's late,

(01:44:46):
but you usually get one and thenyou'll close it out with one too.
So tell me again, perseverance thesecret of all triumphs, Victor Hugo.
That's you, dog Man Hugo.Well you're a well oh no man,
important knowledge. Thank you, thankyou, thank you very much.
Glad to be here, Glad tobe here. Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety. Will keeptaking your calls on the Houston Astros and

(01:45:11):
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Sean with former QB Sean Salisbury.Since we have Aaron Wilson, let's get
through all of these callers. Let'skeep it crisp. Under a minute,

(01:47:05):
triple, He's got the buzzer.He will hang up on you. Let's
talk to Jesus. Jesus, you'reup first. Hey, good morning guys,
Good morning. First of all,Victor Hugh, who's that the famous
novel writer for the Lessons are allanyway? Hey? Yes, Carter's uh

(01:47:27):
if we think it's getting ever it'sstill early. Well, I'm just gonna
say something and hang out right quick, listen to you guys like the great
yoga better shay once. It isgetting late early. Thank you guys,
thank you. That's a great yogism. It's getting late early. It is
early, but it's getting late quickerthan you want to. You know what

(01:47:48):
is daylight savings time kicked in goodpoint or the other. It's yeah,
kicks into the fall? Yes,yeah, we fell back, yeah,
fall forward spring ford fall back right, and so that's it's it's coming early
exactly. Might I want to havea get your stuff done before the light
before? What's that? What?What? Huh? No? Nothing pretty
mature about me? How about you? Maybe? Okay, did you start

(01:48:11):
apologizing before you? It's not you, it's me. Maybe, Hey,
it's not it's me. It's me. Okay, it's not you, it's
me. It's the best ever.Brandon, what's going on? Hey,
guys, love the show. Keepit quick, real quick. I want
to switch it up a little bit. Kind of tired of astros talk.
But Sean, want to get youropinion on the NFL drafted. Well,
my Arizona Cardinals did getting kind ofa number one wide receiver and Marvin Harrison

(01:48:31):
Junior, I think is a greatpick and kind of a foundational pick.
And uh, I love the factyou can't line him up in the slot.
He can make all the catches outthere, tremendous body controllers the receiver
and just great hands. And Ithink the last pick we had the first
round, Darien Robinson from the edgeguy from Missouri help the defensive line too.
Is this kind of the year thatall the pieces kind of come together.
We got a good running game withJames Connor and Trey McBride and of

(01:48:54):
course, and we had Parish JohnsonJunior last year. So I just kind
of wanted to know. I knowit's a tough to vision in the unfcy
West, but want to get youropinion, Sean. Is this year that
Kyler kind of grows up and theoffense and really kind of comes into his
own and actually make it worth thecontract. And I'll hang up and listen.
Thank you, Brandon, Brandon,good stuff. I've said here.
I thought the safest pick in thisdraft was Marvin Harrison Junior. I don't
know how he can fail unless,of course, Kyler Murray goes sideways and

(01:49:17):
we've seen he's capable of doing that. For Kyler Murray's growth, this is
a great addition. He's going towalk on in Arizona. He's going to
walk in there and all of asudden change how they can go about their
offense. Kyler Murray is a dynamicplayer. The question is is he going
to be at a dynamic teammate andlead and do all the things necessary in
his preparation to do what makes agreat quarterback not a good one where you're

(01:49:39):
not studying and you're playing video games. All that's fine and dandy, but
the good ones are going to makesure they know what their day job is.
And Kyler Murray's got the ability.I just think it's the mental side
for him to get to the nextlevel of who he is. But dynamic
talent man Marvin Harrison will help.I thought Marvin Harrison was the safest pick
in this draft because I don't believeif he unless he misses the team bus,

(01:50:01):
that he's gonna fail. But thequarterback in the offense and getting it
to him and doing all those thingswill have a part of it. Yeah,
I don't see how he's not asuccess. If you said of the
first round picks. Who would youtake that? He said, Okay,
I got to bet everything on hissuccess at the next level. It would
have been Marvin Harrison Junior in thisdraft. So yeah, I think Arizona's
on the right path. The questionis who is Kyler Murray? Which one

(01:50:26):
is Kyler Murray? And I thinkthis is moving one way or the other
this year for him. If helays it down and doesn't play well,
they're gonna move on that. Theyjust they're gonna try to. If he
plays really good football and there's adifferent Kyler Murray, then the Arizona Cardinals
will start to turn into a threadagain. Yeah, it's pretty safe pick
getting Marvin Harrison Junior. Yeah,and the safe doesn't mean boring, is

(01:50:46):
not gonna be good. Safe meansI can play him anywhere. He's a
big body that moves like a pointguard. He can do everything you need
a guy like that to do.And he's a closer. You've got a
great and his DNA ain't bad tosay the lead. Let's talk to safe
pick. Let's talk to Lisa.Good morning, Lisa. Hi, guys,
under a minute. Yeah, it'sa it's a bad time for Astros

(01:51:10):
fans right now. But I can'tsay anything that anybody hasn't already said.
But one thing I was thinking aboutis that, you know, we're getting
further and further removed from the JeffLunau era, and I just I'm starting
to think about how important it isand and was to have such a great,

(01:51:31):
brilliant GM in my opinion, whorebuilt this franchise. He brought players
in, made trades, built adynasty, and I just think, you
know, his his shoes have beenpretty big to Phil, and I just
don't know that we've done a veryvery good job filling them. And anyway,
overall, I'm gonna hang up.Guys. Let's just hope we can

(01:51:56):
get it turned around. Thank youappreciate it, Lisa, enjoy the weekend.
Let's talk to Adrian. Adrian,welcome in. Well, since we
found out yesterday that Joe left hisparent home, I don't know, somewhere,
probably in a safe after yesterday's game, Verlander should have waited for everybody.
He should have been the only onesitting looked at everybody and told him

(01:52:16):
we're about to have a conversation.There's gonna be some adult words here.
You're gonna sit out, shut up, and listen. After that, you're
gonna think. So. Uh,let's get on with this conversation, Joe.
They need to drop brother case thisteam. Uh huh, Dusty guess
what they're behind. Dusty gets ejectedwhile they're down three runs, I believe,

(01:52:42):
And what's he doing at the endof the tundle waiting to give them
five? You know why it's calledthe golf son pick it up. This
ain't jose ol two Bays first year, and uh, we don't like it,
and the ballpark's gonna show that.You better ask somebody peace. Thank
you, Adrian. Last call beforewe get to Aaron Wilson, NFL insider

(01:53:02):
Bill, Good morning, Hey,those men a quick go cups go.
Thank you. H Back to theBill. I got your message, Thanks
brother. I appreciate you man sendingthat to me. That's classic thank you
problem. Hey. I hate tothrow salt on the wound, but they
need to do something this weekend againstthe Rockies, at least Crab two,

(01:53:23):
because you've got the Guardians coming inbest record in baseball, You've got the
Mariners coming they lead the division,and after that a road trip to the
Yankees. By May, this couldbe a real problem. By Memorial Day
there may be a real problem.Look at the numbers. Guys, have
a great weekend, you as well, Bill, enjoy the weekend. Yeah,

(01:53:44):
it's getting later early. As Leosaid about no it was hey,
Sue said about yogisms, it is, and the urgency has to kick in.
This is one that isn't. Thereshould be a no brainer. Two
good pictures. You're thrown out there. You're playing Colorado. This should be
a no brain. The problem iscolor has got the same record you do.
You need to make me enough fora camera. Foos here you're out
of your mind. Man, that'sa good thing. Though you like Fridays,

(01:54:10):
it's Friday then and Saturday Sunday?What? No, all right?
I love Fridays, man, Ilove every day day any day above dirt
is good with me. Brother,Amen, just keep living right damn right,
there you go. I'll feel yourdogs another day in paradise. Hey,
let's switch by the way it isit is is that Phil Phil Nevin?

(01:54:32):
No, Phil Phil Phil Phil Nasser? Just in the day in pair
I think, so there you go, something like that. It wasn't Nevan
though, No, he was apicture in Major League Baseball. No,
he wasn't a picture either. PhilNever catcher, did he? Yeah?
Catcher for the Castle for Phil Necro. No, who's the Phil he played
for the Yankees? Yankees picture,Phil, Yankees picture. It wasn't Phil,

(01:54:57):
you know? Phil Never? Yeah? Phil? Phil was the been
a manager at third base, BillNevin, Yeah, catcher of cal State
Fullerton, top pick in the draft. Yet that's from Phil's Yes, Phil
Nevin? Yeah, Philly's nuts.How about that? You're dangling right on
your forehead. There you go.Let's welcome in NFL insider Aaron Wilson to
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Let's go call. This is theSean Salisbury Show. All right, Let's

(01:56:48):
turn our attention to the NFL DraftsRound one last night, Rounds two and
three tonight, textan is going tobe in the mix and we welcome an
NFL insider, Aaron Wilson. Ohyeah, and you hear him here every
single week during the season at AaronWilson on Twitter. One of the best
in the business covering at nationally andlocally here at the Houston Texans, and

(01:57:08):
you can get his mug on TVas well locally. We got him right
now, Aaron, welcome man andmy man. Was there any thoughts of
trading back into the first round yesterdayby the Texans? Oh yeah, they
explored those scenarios. It didn't cometo a point where it made any sense
at all shown for them to makethat kind of move. Yep. The

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draft, with the emphasis on offensethat we all watched that trend and where
the league is going, and Texanshaving a few defensive needs corner, defensive
tackle, it fell pretty perfectly forthem and there was no running back.
Expect to be drafted. They're allavailable. They can do anything they want

(01:57:50):
really here and there probably will bea few players that will be tempting because
they're at forty two currently. Icould see a move up scenario. I
just don't know which one particular.Player whose nickteria doesn't give out that kind
of information that they covet the most. But you know, you see the

(01:58:12):
best availables. There's a lot ofgood football players that can help the Texans
in several areas, including linebacker aswell. So I like the way the
draft though the Texans, and Ithink they're in good position today with three
picks, two second rounders, onethird rounder. Yeah, Aaron Wilson joins

(01:58:34):
us for his weekly visit and gratefullyhaving them on special time here with a
draft around, but it is normaltime for us on Friday. Aaron play
the game. It's just as kindof for me. But I'm sure others
wanted to speculate on it. Hadthey have not traded that first round pick,
and what would they what would theyhave focused on? I know,

(01:58:55):
I mean, I'm thinking, Okay, if Diggs doesn't come from Buffalo,
do they focus on a wide receiver? Well that those two gigs together with
the Vikings and with Buffalo, whatwould they have focused on? What would
their energy have been spent in thefirst round. I think things have probably
been inclined for a corner or adefensive tackle, and they would have had

(01:59:17):
you know, some pretty tempting playersat those spots. Do you think about
the grades. I think it wouldhave been something like that. I don't
know if it would have been thewide receiver. They don't on paper need
one right now. They could inthe future because you've got stuff on Diggs
on a one year of rental andyou have Nico Collins who's hanging into a

(01:59:43):
contract year. I'm sure one ofthem is going to be back, and
probably more luckily in it not it'sNico. But nothing's done until it's done.
And you saw another piece of datawith the aj Brown extension. I
don't think that's the number that we'llget to you, but no, the
price is only going to go upat wide receiver, and he's a good

(02:00:06):
one, so that that's something thatI think that is going to feeling the
you know, pretty soon on thefront burner post draft. So it's they
that mutual interest in getting done.But yes, I think corner definitely,
that's what they would have probably lookedat more than anything, and then that's

(02:00:27):
probably what they're going to look atfirst here as well in the second round.
Yeah, number two corners something theyneed to look at, whether they
can get better than Jeff Akuda andC. J. Anderson. If there's
something someone out there, I thinkthat makes a lot of sense or detackle,
but a corner untilt to the courtcorner more, I think what's left

(02:00:49):
at corner exceeds the defensive lineman.Right. Aaron, let me. Aaron
Wilson joins us as he does everyFriday during the football season, getting a
special version, draft version, asthe Texans have three picks today, two
two's and a third. Aaron,I this team from three wins and a
tie to ten wins. I meanthe quantum leap was you know, you

(02:01:10):
were on with us every week.Was fascinating and they earned it because they
played great and they're doing it theright way. Isn't it amazing to you
that we're talking here as if there'snothing desperate? This team in a matter
of a year has gone from ohmy gosh, what's wrong? How do
we fix it? Too? Thedraft is I don't want to say luxury,
but there's no glaring. Oh mygosh. If they don't get a

(02:01:31):
dominant player, they have no chance. They're not at that stage. And
it changed in a year. Prettyfascinating turnaround, yet it is and it
took the you know that Deshaun Watsontrade helped a lot, but they also
made some good moves, not justyou know, with the first round picks,
but later picks. They've hit onsome third rounders like Christian Harris and

(02:01:58):
Tank Dale, So that's good drafting, I think Casario and in New England
they always talked about whose ticks arethese? Well, Bill Belichick's picks for
the most part, so we're seeingsome of his evaluation ability and the ability
to work the board, like eighttrades last year, so you know,

(02:02:19):
no trade yet this year, butprobably coming. Probably something's happening where he
may maneuver to get certain players youknow that he covets more than others.
So I think he's done a nicejob. And I think it's also a
lot of getting players or in DemicoRyan's vision, like what does Demico want?

(02:02:42):
But like any guy that drafts players, you always going to hit,
you know, Davis Mills was hisfirst pick, but his second pick he
ever made was Nico Collins and alot of those guys they've been trade up
Unico Collins. Oh look at howthey got tanked Dell or Juice Scrugs or

(02:03:08):
you know, there are a lotof this is because of trades. So
he's good at trades, and that'sgood. That's the modern GM. That's
what you want to be the architectof your roster. Aaron, I'm thinking,
you know, you and I havehad a million conversation. I'm sure
you have similar feelings to this,but if if they're different, I'm curious.
I tell people all the time thatyou expect your first rounder to hit

(02:03:29):
everybody? Does you expect? That'swhy he drafting there And because you don't
have a first rounder this year,maybe it didn't feel as sexy, But
make no mistake, your team isbuilt from here to the fifth or sixth
round. This is the meat andpotatoes of everybody. Your star's got to
hit. We know that quarterback,but here's now, Nico Collins. This
is where you build it. Thesecond round, hitting in a guy who

(02:03:51):
could have made it in the firstone, a fifth rounder who ends up
starting in year three because he randown on special teams and did his thing.
I just think that because it's notsexy, there's still got to be
a sense of excitement here because thesethree picks today and the next, then
the rest of the rounds to tomorroware hugely important for the focus for this
team. They have a real opportunityto add some future starters, whether they're

(02:04:16):
starting in September, you know,maybe not because of the depth you know
or mentioned I look at these picks. Today is a big deal and it's
going to be an important day inTexans history as they go forward, because
if they hit on these guys,then that's what leads to you know,

(02:04:39):
for example, you know, likethe Tank Dell type of Christian Harris guys
and their building blocks and you knowI mentioned them and are those you know,
among their top five guys? No, but are they in the top
twelve fifteen players on the team.And that's what you need to have,

(02:05:00):
players like that. If you don't, eventually you're a depleted roster or you're
not competitive enough. So really,this is when a GM earns his money.
You know, they have no Whenthey signed Nick to leave New England,
it was a big time general managercontract that they did. And now

(02:05:25):
you know, this is when youkind of really benefit from that. And
you know, for for Nick,you know, showing his drafting chops as
he has so far, so he'sdone a lot of things well and I
think objectively, anyone could see thatit'd be hard to knock him for a

(02:05:48):
whole bunch of oh, well theymissed on this player. I mean,
you know, I haven't seen alot of legitimate second guessing those things that
they're doing. I think it's it'simproving. And you mentioned, you know
where you don't have so many playerswhen you head into the draft, you
have obvious needs. Well, theydid have obvious needs in the past.
Ye it wasn't as obvious this year. And this is the first time I

(02:06:10):
could say that about the Texans ina long time. You know, usually
something kind of glaring. You know, I covered Baltimore for fifteen years.
That was always Ozzie Knewsom's goal wasto head into the draft with some kind
of flexibility to really truly be bestplayer available. And I think they're close
to that right now where they canbe the BPA in how they go the

(02:06:34):
rest of the draft. If theydid something that positioned, it wasn't necessarily
look like front burners because they likedthe player, you know, like whether
that's a linebacker. You know,Andrew Cooper and Peyton Wilson are still out
there, both of whom visited excellentand those linebackers that you could find a
spot for them too, next toChristian Harrison Aziz al shay here how final

(02:07:00):
question, how will fans be feelingat the end of today A prediction.
I think they'll be happy because Ithink there's going to be at least one
to two guys that they'll be excitedabout, feeling like maybe they have a
chance to compete for a starting job, you know, pretty much right away.

(02:07:24):
I think there's going to be anopportunity where they can create competition at
the number two corner position and forthe future you find a starter and defensive
tackle, linebacker. I think thosespots it might be where they're going.
Uh, wouldn't even rule out atight end said might be the one,

(02:07:47):
and so we're thinking, like,well, ideally round three is when you're
doing that with him, but hethey a guy that could block and also
CJ. Stroud and him are friends. It was it would be a nice,
nice selection. But we'll see ourfall. They're not the only team
that has a pretty good grade onKate Stover and also getting down into three

(02:08:09):
point stance and playing twelve personnel inlineblocking and twenty two that this is what
they want to do. They wantto apply for physicality. Yep, no
doubt about it. Each gives ussomething they don't have a hopeful with tea
quid for Deans. Those know theseinjuries that have silent him a lot.

(02:08:30):
But different from Dalton Schaltz, BrevanJordan yep, and he would go well
with those guys. Sounds great,awesome stuff. Brother. We appreciate your
insight and it's amazing how this hasturned in just a year, you know,
and I've been talking through the difficulttimes and we appreciate you. Have
a great weekend and enjoy covering thisdraft today and we'll talk to you soon.
Thank you. Appreciate. That's AaronWilson. We'll come back and discuss

(02:08:52):
think about you want to talk aboutquantum leaps. It's been made here,
the comfortability of this team, butthey're doing it still on edge. We'll
discuss it here in the next hour. In fifteen minutes. Sports Talk seven
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right, Sean NFL Draft last night, Kayler Williams goes first. What was
your biggest surprise in the first round. It's gotta be Michael Penix, Right,

(02:09:37):
It's not even close. Yeah,Pennix was the biggest surprise. And
it's not on the young man.How could you not like Michael Pennix's story
and grind. It's phenomenal, sothat that's not the thing that that's not
why it's the surprise, Like,oh, Pinnix sucks, you can't take
him there. I think that ifyou're Atlanta, here's what I'm saying about

(02:09:58):
it. Why it's a surprise.And I don't know if it's a good
pick in the long I'm talking abouttoday for the Atlanta Falcons. I think
Pennix is the best pure thrower inthis draft. He spends it, it
looks and I guarantee there's a differentwhistle and sound to it. I am
glad. I remember I said,I think as many as five quarterbacks going
the first round in Denver fell inlove with bon Nicks and got six of
him in the first twelve picks.Hell, this is even more blatant than

(02:10:24):
in nineteen eighty three when Danny Marino, who ended up having maybe the best
pure thrower we've ever seen, goeswhat twenty seven to the Dolphins late in
the first round whatever it was.And so they were smattered throughout that first
round, said Kenny O'Brien, TonyEaston and black Ledge and Jim Kelly,
Elway and Marino and Dan was thelast one taken. I mean they were

(02:10:45):
all over this one. Saw sixwere taken the first twelve picks. There
wasn't a defensive player taken in thefirst handful of the I mean it took
fifteen, yeah, fourteen straight picksof offensive players. You don't think this
league wants to score and pass protectwith quarterbacks? You damn right? What
did I tell you? And forme, I said, there will be
a heavy run on quarterbacks and widereceivers, offensive personnel. I didn't know

(02:11:09):
they were going fourteen picks with it, and six of them in the first
twelve picks at quarterback, but needsfor all those accept Atlanta. I think
Penix's I love the kid. Ido watching him play. I love the
way he spends it. His intermediatethrow is a lot of CJ. Stroud,
accurate ball placement. The spin looksand sounds different, and that's so

(02:11:30):
important. But the reason why Idon't like him in Atlanta, I think
Atlanta could have gone to trade itdown to fifteen and still got him.
I don't think that. I thinkthat that bo Nicks, and I think
Denver wanted bo Nicks. We knowthe Vikings craved Minnesota, and I'll get
to that real quickly before we goto break I for me, Pinnix's I
hope Pinnix is a great player inthe league. The problem is now you've

(02:11:54):
already disrupted the flow. Now KirkCousins is going to have to get over
it and deal with it. Butyou paid him with one hundred and eighty
million bucks. Michael Pinnicks, forthe most part, is not going to
see the field, and if hedoes, Raheem Morris may not even be
the coach in four years or threeyears. When Michael Pinnocks is drafted so
great pick because I love him.The timing this pick for Atlanta makes didn't

(02:12:15):
make any sense to me and youalready now. And Cousins was, they
said, is bothered by it andshocked. He expected him to go get
a quarterback, but not with theeighth pick of the draft. And Pinnicks
is not going to help you rightnow, Cousins is going to play one
hundred and eighty million reason why.And in truth, Cousins was the MVP
of the league for the first whatever, the quarter of the season or what

(02:12:35):
it was like. He was playinghis ass off. But I don't I
don't know that this three years.What are you going to do unless he
plays bad? And if he playsgad bad? Guess what if Cousins craps
the bed and doesn't play well inAtlanta for two years? Is raymieem Morris
going to be the coaching year three? No, Rham Morris will never see
him come to Fruition. So that'swhy it was odd. Although I think

(02:12:56):
Pinnox can be a great player,the timing of this was odd. The
Vikings got they bamboozled. They werestill I told you they were going to
trade up. Yep, they didn'teven have to with the Chargers because they
still got their guy and got whatanother edge rusher to go with Jonathan Grenard
they got losing to Neil Hunter,and so they had a great first round
and didn't They gave up what afourth and a fifth to move up one

(02:13:18):
spot, so nobody jumped them toget JJ McCarthy. So they still got
the guy they wanted. And themost intriguing pick for me is Xavier Worthy.
Oh yeah, here's why that guyyou're living right, Xavier? You
want to know why because when youwake up on draft day and then you
get drafted at night and it's theKansas City Chiefs and Andy Reid and Patrick
Mahomes, you walk. You're saying, man, I can't wait till contract

(02:13:39):
number two because I'm gonna see theball and that guy's a puff of smoke,
dude, puff of smoke. Meanyou know, you see a puff
of smoke and it disappears that dude'sgot that kind of speed we are in
for. I'm telling you, theChiefs just let's just go get more speed.
We lost Tyreek Hill speed and guesswhat this? What do you run
at the combine? Worthy of fourpoint two nine. Guess you know what's

(02:14:01):
crazy? Oh in a race rightnow? Guess who's winning that race?
Xavi Worthy over to Tyreek Hill.I know what do they called Tyry Hill?
The Cheatah? Anybody? I don'tknow what gazelle? I don't know
which I cheat is out running?Whatever is a cheat of the fastest the
fastest runner. Well, I cantell you this, Xavier Worthy, whatever
that is. I also raise youone and you get this offense? Are
you frigging kidding me? Embarrassment?But that's the Chiefs doing it the right

(02:14:26):
way. Good for that kid.So that's how I look at the first
round. So far as far asthose skilled positions go, Yeah, I
cannot believe it. I mean theyhave just got harder with that pick Adam
to Patrick Mahomes come on, man, yeah, and Zach Wilson's likely you
traded for me and then and thenyou went and drafted and your cousins you

(02:14:46):
got got a hundred eighty million reasonswhy but watch what happens he throws three
picks in the first game. What'severybody? That's why this is? That's
exactly right. No, I'm talkingabout in Pennix with the bo Nicks may
start, but Cousins throws three picks. It's time for Penis already. I'm
telling you the disruption is going tohit hard if they're not good, and
Raheem Morris will be coaching somebody elsein three years. If in fact,

(02:15:09):
this doesn't work, odd pick,but I love Pinnix's game. Let's keep
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Sean NFL Draft talked about Michael Pennixbeing the big shock, uh Xavier Worthy
being a hell of a pick forthe Kansas City Chiefs and uh Man,
what an offensive heavy first fourteen picks. The first defensive player that went was

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layout to lat Too from UCLA edgerusher number fifteen. Yeah, and we
went to Indianapolis. I think hedid, if that my memory serves me.
Yeah, listen, man get inMexas Atlanta Falcons pick. Did you
see Arthur Blank in the in theIt looked like they had to explain to
him what was going on, notthat he was even confused by the pick.

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And when they were asked the headcoach and Defonta, the DGM and
Raheem Morris, it's like, well, we're not going to share because they
told Kirk Cousins while they were onthe clock and they said, we're not
going to share what it was.You know, when you share stuff like
that, it obviously wasn't a goodconversation. So you want to disrupt the
Apple card? Now, I've alwayssaid if you're afraid of competition, you

(02:18:28):
better take two weeks off and quit. So I can't feel worried about Cousins
being upset by it. He stillgot to go perform. But the thing
is just from a franchise standpoint onehundred and eighty, which a lot of
it guaranteed, majority of it,and I believe, and Cousins playing great

(02:18:48):
football before he got hurt. Andyou draft a guy that looks like he's
going to be a hell of athrower in the NFL, and Michael Pennix
can rip it and he's accurate,and he's the purest pocket pas sort of
the six guys that were drafted inthis and he he he's his ball placement
is is Sunday level for good quarterbacks. But you can't. You can't play

(02:19:13):
him right now. You can't.And he may not be ready yet.
He's been a lot of college experiencemay make him the most ready. So
it's just an odd timing because Ithink you could have gone back seven or
eight and still got him, andgot another and and and got some more
assets. I do. But ifthey were, they obviously were dead set

(02:19:33):
on it, which also tells meare they dead set on Cousins? And
if they, if Cousins would haveknown this, this is my opinion that
they were going to draft a quarterbackin the first round. I'll bet you
bet your sweet ass he would nothave signed there. I fully agree.
I'm telling you right now, hewould not have signed there in my opinion,
if they'd have told him what we'rethinking about taking one on the top
ten. He Deprice said, whatexplain this to me? And if he

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didn't get the explanation he wanted,I don't believe Cousins goes. I don't.
I just don't understand that. Idon't under me either. Understand the
player agreed, but why just thatmassive? If you're Denver and you take
Michael Pennock's twelfth like David Bonnick,I'm all in, oh yeah, right
that that I get. I II completely get. I don't get paying

(02:20:22):
a guy top of the line moneyfor quite frankly, a top of the
line numbers producer. Now. Idon't know if there are any threat to
go to the super Bowl, butthey've you know, they've got good offensive
players now, Drake London Pitts,I mean, yeah, they but and
Cousins will put up numbers. Butthe thing is, I just if you're
trying to help Cousins and help theteam and win right now, Michael Pennock

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is going to be carrying a clipboardand put a baseball cap on for if
Cousins plays good football, Pinis willnot see the field. You get my
point until the contracts up and they'reworking about the future. But raheem morse,
your future may not be there bythe time Michael Pennock starts. I
just I love the player. Idon't like the timing of the pick,
especially where you got him. Hell, I might even be able to explain

(02:21:03):
it to Cousins if we said wetraded down got him at twenty one,
because remember there was a time amonth ago that Pennix and bow Knicks were
not first round picks, and bysome they still didn't have him his first
round pick. So it's probably atPinnis a little high, but it may
pay off for Atlanta down the road. It was very odd to me,
Brian, it really was, andI get why they're giddy, but alls

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you've done forget. I want Cousinsto compete. I don't care about his
feelings about Well, dude, youget over it. You're one hundred and
eighty million dollars. You should beconfident you are starting quarterback and you got
some good players, but if youwant to enhance the whole team, it
doesn't make sense. But now you'regoing to have to deal with what's going
to happen. Dude, it alwaysdoes. They lose two in a row,
and Cousins is a part of thetwo game that he makes a couple

(02:21:46):
of mistakes in the games. Right, yeah, Well you lose the fan
base and Cousin immediately. Not becauseyou should, but that's the human nature.
And you know what at all alsosending a message we drafted him eighth
why because while we know who ourstarter is, but there's a lot afraid

(02:22:07):
to play him. That's exactly right. So I don't I just I think
it's an odd pick. I do. I think it's a very odd pick.
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ninety. Uh sean NFL draft talkedabout Michael Pennix being the big shock,
uh Xavier Worthy being a hell ofa pick for the Kansas City Chiefs and
uh man, what an offensive heavyfirst fourteen picks. The first defensive player
that went was Layout Too lat toofrom UCLA and Rusher number fifteen. Yeah,

(02:24:48):
and we went to Indianapolis. Ithink he did, if that my
memory serves me. Yeah, listen, man, get Mexas Atlanta Falcons pick.
Did you see Arthur blank in thein the Yeah, it looked like
they had to explain to him whatwas going on, not that he was
even confused by the pick. Andwhen they were asked the head coach and

(02:25:09):
Defontina, the DGM and Raheem Morris, it's like, well, we're not
going to share because they told KirkCousins while they were on the clock and
they said, we're not going toshare what it was. You know,
when you share stuff like that,it obviously wasn't a good conversation. So
you want to disrupt the Apple card. Now. I've always said if you're
afraid of competition, you better taketwo weeks off and quit. So I
can't feel worried about Cousins being upsetby it. He still got to go

(02:25:33):
perform. But the thing is justfrom a franchise standpoint one hundred and eighty,
which a lot of it guaranteed,majority of it, and I believe,
and Cousins playing great football before hegot hurt. And you draft a
guy that looks like he's going tobe a hell of a thrower in the

(02:25:54):
NFL, and Michael Pennix can ripit and he's accurate, and he's the
purest pocket passer of the six guysthat were drafted in this and he he
he's his ball placement is is Sundaylevel for good quarterbacks. But you can't.
You can't play him right now.You can't, And he may not

(02:26:16):
be ready yet. He's been alot of college experience. May make him
the most ready. So it's justan odd timing because I think you could
have gone back seven or eight andstill got him, and got another and
and and got some more assets.I do. But if they were,
they obviously were dead set on it, which also tells me are they dead
set on Cousins? And if theyif Cousins would have known this, this

(02:26:37):
is my opinion that they were goingto draft a quarterback in the first round.
I'll bet you bet your sweet ass, he would not have signed there.
I fully agree. I'm telling youright now, he would not have
signed there in my opinion, ifthey'd have told him what we're thinking about
taking one on the top ten.He Deprice said, what explain this to
me? And if he didn't getthe explanation he wanted. I don't believe

(02:26:58):
Cousins goes there. I don't.I just don't understand that. I don't
either. I understand the player agreed, but why just that massive If you're
Denver and you take Michael Pennocks twelfthlike David Bonnicks, I'm all in right
that that. I get. II I completely get. I don't get

(02:27:20):
paying a guy top of the linemoney for quite Frankly a top of the
line numbers producer. Now, Idon't know if there are any threat to
go to the Super Bowl, butthey've you know, they've got good offensive
players now, Drake London Pitts,I mean yeah, they but and Cousins
will put up numbers. But thething is, I just if you're trying
to help Cousins and help the teamand win right now, Michael Pennock is

(02:27:41):
going to be carrying a clipboard andput a baseball cap on for if Cousins
plays good football, Pinis will notsee the field. You get my point
until the contracts up and they're workingabout the future. But Raheem Morse,
your future may not be there bythe time Michael Penick starts. I just
I love the player. I don'tlike the timing of the pick, especially

(02:28:01):
where you got him. Hell,I might even be able to explain it
to Cousins if we said we tradeddown got him at twenty one, because
remember there was a time a monthago that Pennix and bow Nicks were not
first round picks, and by somethey still didn't have him as first round
pick. So it's probably at Pinnixa little high, but it may pay
off for Atlanta down the road.It was very odd to me, Brian,
it really was. And I getwhy they're giddy, but alls you've

(02:28:24):
done forget. I want Cousins tocompete. I don't care about his feelings
about Well, dude, you getover it. You're one hundred and eighty
million dollars. You should be confident. You are starting quarterback and you got
some good players. But if youwant to enhance the whole team, it
doesn't make sense. But now you'regoing to have to deal with what's going
to happen. Dude, it alwaysdoes. They lose two in a row,
and Cousins is a part of thetwo game that he makes a couple

(02:28:46):
of mistakes in the games. Right, yeah, Well you lose the fan
base and Cousin immediately. Not becauseyou should, but that's the human nature.
And you know what, it alsosending a message. We drafted him
eighth why because while we know whoour starter is, but there's a lot
afraid to play him. That's exactlyright. So I don't. I just

(02:29:11):
I think it's an odd pick.I do. I think it's a very
odd pick. And I and Iif I was in Atlanta I would not
have done it at eight, butI love Penix. Does that make sense?
Yeah? Yeah, weird, veryweird. I just didn't. I
texted you guys said, holy yeah, Michael Penix just went eighth overall to
the Falcons. Well when she sawI watched to anybody, the ESPN and
and NFL network is shocked, notshocked because they don't think Pennick can play.

(02:29:37):
Shocked because it was this team inthis situation. Atlanta does some baffling
things. And it's a bummer becauseMichael Pennix doesn't deserve us to say,
oh, he's not worthy of theeighth pick. What it does, but
he's going to catch some of thatwrath and all this post draft talk because
they're gonna say why would you takethe guy there? And it's not personal
on him, it's just the waythat the it went. But if you

(02:29:58):
like guy who can push down thefield, and we saw that with Stroud,
how how good he is, Pennixhas got some of that DNA.
Brother, I'm just telling you,did you by chance see what the GM's
GM for the Falcon set after thedraft pick? Look after I saw I
watched one of their videos. Heand Raheem Morris at sitting at the table,

(02:30:18):
But I may have missed what you'retalking about. What do you say
he said that the quarterback Michael Pennixcould sit four or five years. Yeah,
Jordan Love style. Excuse me,Jordan Love style. And if it
turns out to be that he playslike Jordan Love, oh to work out
Michael Penick. I was gonna say, Michael Penox is old for the NFL
four or five years and with herealized every season at Indiana before he tranced,

(02:30:41):
he played six years of college form. Yes, every season at Indiana
ended in injury. Yeah, sowhen people questioned not not against picks,
but durability. Now the last twoyears been different. He's put up gaudy
numbers, he's been off the charts, and he's been healthy. And they've
had a great offensive line at theUniversity of Washington. He may have a
matter of fact, the washing doll'siveledmaybe better than the Falcons offensive line at
least find a starting out. Butyou drafted a guy he's gonna be in

(02:31:05):
his thirties and enjoy the fruits oflabor. What's he got then four years
to play? Five years? Sixyears? If he's great, and hope
that he doesn't get hurt. It'sjust an odd it's a baffling. It's
very very odd and weird. Yeah, strange. I just I don't understand
it. And again not against theplayer, but against the Falcons when they
just got Kirk Cousins eighty million,brother, I know, one hundred and

(02:31:30):
eighty million rates. The similarities tothis would have been. Well, let's
let's say I'm thinking about it,what if the Cowboys took the quarterback with
the eighth pick, Prescott, bignumbers have been, that've been playoffs,
all that that would have been inPeople like what what did you just say?
Yeah? Strange, right, andbut Prescott's here, I press hell
Prescott. Maybe a quarterback somewhere elsedown the road. But think that's the

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Hold man, Hey, fellas.You know, I love the draft.

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I watched it yesterday, you know, watching a young man get drafted,
watching the family. I love seeingit in action, when the cameras
at their homes. It's comical sometimes, like Ceedee Lamb when his girlfriend wanted
to grab his phone and he tookthat phone back real quick. Now you
ain't could go through my phone yesterday, Like yesterday you had the young man

(02:34:33):
got drafted by the Jets, hismom on one side, dad or another,
and his girlfriend on the side ofmom. The Alabama, the Alabama.
He just sat there laughing and smiling. I loved that, man,
didn't you love that? I mean, yeah, the girlfriend, the girlfriend
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(02:34:54):
oh hell no, nobody's getting closeto my boy. There was no doubt.
Yeah yeah. I mean it isa jog to watch the families.
I mean, just like the youngman whose dad came up on the stage
with him, he gave his kidneyup for a son. I mean,
it's so many hart felt stories.I mean, it's a beautiful thing,
but then reality comes back, andI'm sitting there watching because I have no

(02:35:16):
number one pick in the first round, and I'm watching these teams, you
know, move and trade, andI'm saying, they trade and they moved
back, and they get a thirdround from moving back. And here it
is, we give up our draftpick in the first round, which is
golden. And I keep saying NICKISerrio is. I know he done good

(02:35:41):
things this year for as you know, signing a couple of free agencies that
we needed. But at the sametime, the failure of that number,
that first round draft pick is toogolden to just give away. You should
at least got something more than a'suckaround draft pick and a swap of a

(02:36:03):
six and a seven that don't meannothing. And then we keep gigs.
I keep repeating this a one yearrental when we had a lockdown for three
years. It does not make sense. Sometimes what Nick and Serrio do,
y'all want to talk about what Atlantadid was not logical. This and that.

(02:36:24):
I can understand that more because KirkCousin is always a rental and you
want somebody to be there in caseheat breaks now and doesn't come back healthy
after his Achilles hit injury, soI can understand that, but I'm looking
at my Texans. I'm passionate aboutthe fact that I don't have a first
round picking or watching all these playersgo off the board, and I know

(02:36:45):
we're gonna have a corner back rightthere we could have had Trying for us
to get that would have been afour year starter. And I have to
be upset because my GM blew it, and I keep telling the text and
I'm arguing with people that work themedia, yourselves, everybody, Hey,
let me be I'm gonna go biblical. Now. If I got to be

(02:37:07):
the one building the off out herelike nor and everybody laughing, then I'm
building this off and I'm letting yoube. No, I'm singing to the
high heavens. Nicko Sarrio blew thissituation. Well, now do you are
you at all relieved a little bit? First of all, let's hope that
the two second rounders and the thirdrounder are big are guys that maybe were
first round grades on some people's board. But back to that, does the

(02:37:30):
Stefan Diggs get the way pain alittle bit for you? The only way
is going to be justified if weget to the championship game and win and
go to the Super Bowl. Thenyou could say, Nicko Srio. He
was able to capitalize on that becausewe was able to take advantage of it.

(02:37:52):
But there's no way he should havebeen a one year of rental.
It would have been beautiful. Wehad locked up for three years. August.
Yeah, you love you love theasset more than the other stuff.
You want that first round asset.You want that. That's that's that's basically
the just of your conversation, amI right Wood? You like that?
And the thing that Nick Turny don'tknow to say, way I think about

(02:38:16):
Texans organization, You're not thinking aboutthe Texas organization when you sign him from
three years to one year, becauseand then you don't have that first round,
that first round draft pick to makeup. Boy, that's the most
bothersome thing third three to one whenyou had him, right, you're going
to give him an option out atthe end of the year, right,
Yeah, that bothers me exactly exactly, you know, and then we don't

(02:38:39):
have nothing to show for it whenhe's gone, because now you know,
our future is gone because we wouldhave had a number one still on our
team. You know, where wecan say, you know what, man,
we're rolling. We're doing some goodteams because we can get there with
our digs regard. I mean,he's going to help us, but unfortunately
after this year, he's a oneyear rena. He's goal. Where is

(02:39:01):
our future where we could have capitalizedthat, But now we have to go
into the draft today reaching and hopingthat. Man, I hope somebody number
two and number three draft picks cancome through for us. Good point when
a lot of times thank you,yeah, great stuff, man, I
appreciate it. I love your passion. I do the thing. I'm listen.
I understand wanting to stay in thefirst round. I do a lot

(02:39:24):
of people cherish those assets and Iget it. One get it because I
was bothered when it first came downas well. Stefan Diggs took a little
the sting out. But I'm withhim on this. The sneaky part of
and I don't know that all theyou know, the the whole the talk
of the contract with the small printsays or the fine print in his contract.
But hold on hope that he hasa great season, which I think

(02:39:46):
he's going to have. But thento say, well, we can we're
hoping that we can resign him,right, that feeling of it that does
bother me Because you traded for him. He doesn't get to dictate the length
of his contract. He's under contract. I didn't. I understand trying to
cater to the player, but I'mnot giving up contract years to make you
happy. No, that's why notwrong that Yeah, that part of it,

(02:40:09):
that part of it does bother me. Yeah, So we'll see how
the two seconds and a third workout. I think Nick Cassio has done some
good things. That's a little lot. Now, if they resign him and
they keep him at this year,then then it worked out. You're rolling
a little bit of dice with that. One thing I want to look at
with this first round, and obviouslythe Texans don't have it, don't didn't
have a first round pick. Iwant to look at the list of players

(02:40:30):
that went and if they would havehad a first round pick, could they
have gone? Were they even goneafter any of these guys? I mean
they were supposed to pick a twentythree Yeah, twenty three was the jaguarres
No, that wasn't it? Thenit was whoever the Vikings picked there and
they chose a ed. They draftedan edge rusher. What number was that
Viking second pick? Uh, seventeenbecause they traded up there, you go,

(02:40:52):
Okay, so that would have beenwho they trade with, whoever that
was, it was on the Ticksonvillewhoever was in the well. That's how
Jacksonville up in the twenty third spot, right, because Minnesota had the twenty
third and they traded up. Okay, So Brian Thomas Junior, the wide
receiver from LSU went to Jacksonville.It's pretty damn. I mean it's pretty
good. Let's look at it.I want to look more a little bit

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is the Sean Salisbury show. Beautiful. Probably show a little bit more fire
than he did when he got ejectedand run yesterday by the Empire. There's
a lot to fix. It doesn'tlook like they're close, but they've got
the key thing. You start hittingwith runners in scoring position, that'll change
the whole flow of it. Butthe problem is they're not. We could

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go on back and forth. Everybody'sgot their opinion, but we just can't
keep saying, Oh, they're theastros. It'll be okay. It may
be okay, and they are theastros, but neither one of them are
okay, and they're not playing likethe astros normally, And there's got to
be a sense of urgency or thisteam will find itself in the middle of
May, double digits at a firstplace, and then it'll be an uphill
climb the whole year, and thenyou start to press even more so we'll

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continue to discuss, obviously, andhopefully we come back on the weekend with
two wins and we meaning the Astros, and you can at least start to
build something that you thought you hadwhen the season started. Let's get out
to Al. You're gonna have toclick him. Uh uh triple e Al
on the south side? Al,what's up? Hey? What's up?
Sean? What's up? Trip League? Man? Good Friday? Uh?

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Go show Sean. That's all Ihave to say. Uh with that draft,
Sean. And I know the call, the call in love, the
passion or whatever, but you gotto think about it, like to see
you when you say twenty third pick, Minnesota got it Daniel Hunter. Period.
That's how you gotta look at thatther hindsight. You want the guy,

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whatever, but there's no one inthis draft that can tie Neil Hunter's
shoes on the defense. And I'lltell you this al real quick, Daniel
Hunter. I was about to saythe same thing that twenty third pick would
not be as good. That's theone thing that I know. That's what
you get in return. Basically,even though with the way Hunter was going
to leave, you know, withfree agency, but if if you're just

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saying that, oh, we tradedfirst round pick for him. Is my
point that the equivalent a first roundpick at twenty three will not give you
a normal what Daniel Hunter's already givenyou and what you still expect. So
that's the trade off for the mostpart, and then the digs bonus of
getting him here. So I doget why Wood likes the assets of the
draft, but I will always takea proven player at that same position more

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than I will a rookie that Idon't know is going to be a great
player. I always will, andDaniel Hunter is a great player. And
I'm glad you said that, shunecho what I was saying, because you
got to look at not just whatthey did. You got to go back
to the beginning of the free agencybecause you let your leading sack Lee to
go. So you know, tomek Ryan being a defensive mind to coach,

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first thing he was gonna tell Nick, you know, I need that
guy in regardless of what you gotgoing on in the first round. Neil
Hunter was, you know a piecefrom the twenty third. That's just how
you got to look at it.You won't have time to go into hide
insight the nuance of it. Butthat's how you ended up with that guy,
so shun. Even with the ChicagoBams, they got another receive.

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So this guy got so many receivers. You know they didn't do that for
Justin Fields. I just wanted aboutthe Bears. But I digress from that.
I just think that kirk Cousins,Sean, I think he, uh,
if you have told him that thatguy was gonna get drafted at eight
on the bid, just the businessside, I think kirk Cousins would still
took that. But yeah, he'dhave got close from somebody else. Yes,

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if nobody got close, you're goingto take that money, would well
the Vikings. The Vikings would havegiven him. Uh, maybe not that,
but they would have given him money. He just didn't want to guarantee
as much. Somebody else would havejumped in and got you one hundred and
fifty million. I assure you ofthat. Somebody else would have. But
you're right, if nobody got close, Yeah, the wallet, he wants

(02:46:46):
a thick wallety. He's gonna gothere, but uh, this is one.
Now he's gonna have to deal withit, man, and deal with
the pressure that comes with the guydrafted in the first ten picks at quarterback.
That's part and parcel to competition.Oh well, great show, thanks
brother, appreciate, thank you,thanks you. It is And yeah,
Al's right about that one hundred andeighty million is is anybody take it?

(02:47:09):
But still somebody got close. Idon't think Cousins would have gone to Atlanta
if somebody got close and knew knowingthat somebody is going to be picked in
the top ten quarterbacks. Dude,superstars are sensitive that stuff, especially at
that position. And Al made agood point. You know would want the
draft pick even though it's you didn't. You didn't say we want this for
this Daniel Hunter. Daniel Hunter isis better than what you would have got.

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Let's just say you traded for that. It's kind of this swap.
Really, you know, Minnesota getto you, you end up trading any
way, but Minnesota, you signedto Neil Hunter, you get rid of
Grenard and Blake Cashman. But DanielHunter's better than the twenty third pick of
the draft. Yes, no question, no doubt. So that's that's kind
of you. Listen, you gettwo guys that are in the Pro Bowl
when they're playing good every year,that are Pro Bowl type players and Hunter

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and Stephan Diggs. So if theyhit and you can keep digs A on
a more than a one year rental, then it works out well. Risky
risky proposition though, because guys likemoney. Are you gonna be willing to
pay him if he catches one hundredand five balls this year? You know
who I want the Texans to goget in the second round if possible.
Who Ladd McConkie. That would bephenomenal. I don't know if he's going

(02:48:16):
to be available, but damn solet's see. Yeah, I would love
the second pick of that second Now, McConkie may be gone by then,
but it wouldn't be great to goCorner McConkie in the second round or I
know they I think there's gonna bea lot of focus on the defensive side
of the ball. I do,And I also think there's a chance they

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could take an offensive lineman with thesecond pick of that second round. It
seems like corner has to be thepick with unless they may even want to
move up closer to the top ofthe second round. But dude, if
Ladd McConkie, you could grab himlater or a third round pick at them.
Who knows what some people some peoplethink he's going to the first ten
picks in the second round. Butcan you imagine that second round pick.

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If you say, you know what, let's go get him one more weapon,
A great possession guy, it'd bephenomenal. And he runs pretty damn
well. He's not just a possessionguy. He runs four seven right,
and he's got good, big,good big play chops because he's played on
some pretty good teams at Georgia.That'd be that'd be a sneaky, great
pick. I think the need iscornerback. That's first. There's no doubt.

(02:49:22):
Yeah, if you don't have thefirst pick of the second round,
yeah, I would still if possibleto get him to add him. If
you got him, that's the luxurypick. I'm all for it. Yeah,
I am all for it. Watchthe Chiefs come around and somehow don't
get that out there? Come on, man it would you be shocked?
No? I wouldn't. Buffalo hasthe first pick in the second round.

(02:49:43):
That's number thirty three overall. Don'tyou think they got to try to go
get a wider See who's who doesit go? It goes Buffalo yeah,
Patriots, Yeah, Cardinals. Doesthat not seem like a Patriot way too?
Yeah? Basic white guy, basicwhite guy playing slot. Didn't Drake
after a quarterback? Drake May looksjust like Mac Jones, but a little

(02:50:03):
bit different build. Drake. Drakemay have big, strong, but he's
a better player, more physically giftedthan Mac Jones is. Mac had to
carve out great numbers. He's youknow, progression and all that. And
they didn't listen. They didn't givemac Jones much help. They had no
weapons. So this team is veryvery This team is very very they they're

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not the cupboards not loaded. Itis awfully bear with weapons. If you're
gonna get Drake May in the lineupeventually, Drake, you know what,
Jacoby Brissette starts, but Drake Mayeventually is gonna play. You're gonna have
to give him and that he seemslike the Patriot pick right for that type
of he does. So it isbecause he's just and a guy you pencil
in and gold playing probably catch ahundred balls as a rookie. That's how

(02:50:48):
good he you know, and youneed those guys. He's going to go
soon, but I'd love to havehim here and good morning. Mitchell and
McConkie are gonna be gone the nexttwo so we don't we don't need to.
We we've only replaced the two linebackers. We've only replaced him with really
one linebacker. I'm thinking they're goinginto that linebacker. So if they got

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if they got an inside linebacker,let's just say a cornerback with that first
pick in the second round, andthat second second round pick became available,
and then had an opportunity to getLad McConkie, you're not going to take
him or Donny Mitchell. No,just answer my question. No, it's
a hypothetical yes or no. No, I'm not going to get Stop it,
Andy, stop it, stop it. I think you don't believe that.

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I think he's a luxury pick.They may if there's no it's another
line. I just said, ifthey drafted a cornerback. I just said,
if they drafted a cornerback with thefirst pick in the second round,
and then a Donny Mitchell or LadMcConkie came available later on in the second
second round, you're not picking thebest player available. No, I'm not.
Oh my god, Andy, stopit there. That means you gave

(02:52:01):
up. I'm not gonna give upon Michi. No A'll do. All
due respect to John Metchi and thatphenomenal story, I'm taking a Donnie Mitchell
or lat McConkey over him. That'smy opinion. Well, guess what,
that's what. That's not gonna happenanyway. So I don't know why you're
even bringing it up. I'm banterfor bantering. Hypothetical, Andy, that's

(02:52:22):
all I was asking. But guesswhat, I don't live in hypothetical.
In reality, those two guys whowill not be there, They're not gonna
be there at forty two. Here'shere's the hypothetical. I don't want them
to move up to thirty three andget get one of those two guys.
I don't want that. If theymove up, it's for a corner.
We both said they're gonna get acorner. We both said the need was

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corner first. Here's here's the priority. They're gonna get a corner. They
may get a maybe depth at offensiveline or a defensive lineman, linebacker,
either one of those guys. Asyou go to four with their and I
still think a tight end in thethird rounds in play I do in line
blocker, a physical guy that youcan get in the twelve and twenty two

(02:53:05):
personnel and run the football and dowhat they do in San Francisco. Don't
do not discount another tight end beinghere that knows that to block and free
up Schultz to catch more passes.But they're gonna go defense first, and
it's gonna be a corner, andit may be a linebacker and maybe a
DT a defensive tackle. But theluxury pick. Put it this way,
if McConkie was sitting there in thethirdy, at least he's gonna be gone.

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But it should be nice to havethe luxury if you could. But
they're gonna go defense to start.There's no doubt you're not trading up to
get McConkie. You're trading up toget a corner. If that's what you
do. Yeah, yeah, andhere, look, I don't think that
second round. I think they're gonnabundle that second round and move move even
up closer in the second round.They may very well bundle the second round.

(02:53:46):
Yeah, either two seconds to getup or the second round er and
the third rounder to move up.In the first few picks of the second
round, that's right. I'm almostsure if that's gonna happen, you could
he's got what three fourth round right, you can buttle two fourths in that
second second and get high up inthat second with that. Yeah, I
expect that. I don't think they'regoing south. I think they'd go north

(02:54:07):
if they're going to do anything toget closer to the guy they want.
They've got two fourth round picks anda third round pick as well, so
they've got two four They've got fivetotal in the next three rounds. Yeah,
and I think they only wind uppicking maybe three out of those five.
Players appreciate the call, and wegot to get a break, a
good weekend man, good stuff manseven one, three, five, seven,
and you have the luxury to getLad mccauckey's tell you if you had

(02:54:31):
the corner in Lad McConkey sitting there, you're taking the corner, right.
That's exactly what I said before weeven when we started this. But the
second pick of the second of theirsecond round, second second pick. Yes,
I got you the first pick inthe second round for the Texans.
I believe that they will go geta cornerback or he could be the linebacker
like Andy said, but I'm justsaying, if those two guys are available,
you're not gonna when his best playeravailable come into play in third,

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fourth round, fourth round, startsaying, if you've, if you've got
your needs, the okay, we'readdressed, we're deep. And then all
of a sudden you say, okay, we got three positions that we could
upgrade. I'm taking the best player. Yeah, so I think around the
third I start to think about bestplayer available. Now, if all of
a sudden you say, man,if that, if that, if there's
a need that's not glaring, butman, this would be a great upgrade.

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You take them. But when itgets that point, once you hit
the fourth round for me, guaranteed, sometimes even a third. You hit
the fourth round, you go through. If another receiver sitting there, I'm
taking him. If you love aquarter. If I don't care. From
the fifth round you say, youknow what I need to backup for CJ.
Stroud as an asset like the Patriotsused to do, right, grab
him, or you say you knowwhat I need a little more in a

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bigger body. In the fifth round, he is he's the best available.
Only say well, why would wego get another corner we just drafted.
Is he the best player available?You can ever have too many of them,
go get another one. So yeah, I'm gonna say fourth round kicks
in is best player available and mayeven creep into the third round. But
you can still be pretty specific ona third round pick, like a Tank

(02:55:58):
Dell where he's I need that homerun hitter there, and he's better than
a third round especially if you hadhim grated higher. Higher, you go
get him. But the best availablestarts to kick in for sure in round
four. For me, yeah,the need to start off the second round
cornerback. Yes, defense, Ifyou've got a trade up to get him,
you do it. Yeah. Absolutely, It's a first round pick,
is what he is? Yeah,exactly. Let's finish off the show.

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and some special guests. A longway along the way. And that's again,
that's tonight six pm right here onSports Talk seven ninety. Final call
of the show, Tripley. Canyou touch up? Gil fulm name?
I got it? Here we go, Gil, last call the show,
Good morning, Yeah, you gotmy name? Riot. So I'll talk
about Gil Sean I didn't want tostar called his song just steaked anyway.

(02:58:11):
Joe, Joe, Joe. RememberTom Dungee, Tony Dungee, the coach
Tony Dungeon. Yes, wasn't helike a gentleman coach that didn't like cussing,
didn't have to be fiery when hebragged about when he won. Maybe
that's the way Joyce, it gotyour man and he went when it works
out, he could come back andsay you know this, this is who

(02:58:33):
I am. I don't have tocuss, I don't have to scream.
No Gil real quick Tony. TonyDungee was on our staff and I've known
it. He was on our staffin Minnesota. And I never heard Tony
Dungee said cuss word in his life. Never. I've never heard him say.
And he wasn't a yeller and screamer. And you can win that way.
I don't think there's no doubt.And he's won a super Bowl and
he's in a Hall of Fame.I think what we're saying here, it

(02:58:54):
doesn't matter. Joe and the Doug. Like I said before, leaders come
in all shapes size. You don'thave to be a yeller and screamer.
Some guys talking, some guys showit, some guys do both. I'm
talking about with the way the fire, and they're talking about that, and
Joe said, we need more fire, we need there's an urgency. We're
just simply talking about the ejection.If you're going to get ejected. If

(02:59:15):
if you're gonna get ejected, youwant to show your team some fire.
That's the time they say, hey, go ahead and run me. Maybe
he's got to get out of character, and that he doesn't mean you got
a cuss. There's a lot ofways to get ejected. Make it personal,
on the upbar or whatever it is. You don't want to make it
personal. I think sometimes what getspeople out like okay, we can do
this is seeing your seeing your managerget out of his comfort zone, right,

(02:59:35):
it's okay once in a while.And I think that's what people are
talking about. Yeah, no,I know what everybody's talking about. That
might not be in his personality andhe maybe wants to prove a points.
You don't have to be a jerkto but let me tell you this,
if it doesn't work out, justrun his ass out of here. It
man happen. If it doesn't,brother there you go have a good one.
Yeah. I think that's what itis. And you know we've all

(02:59:58):
seen that's like damn, I didn'tknow that I had that that anyhow,
didn't have to act like an allthe time, be a jerk, nothing
like that. But some of thebest people in the world get kicked out
of games, and god faring menalso get fired up. Yep, that's
the thing. And you know what, god firing man also sometimes sling an
f bomb. Yeah, you're goddamn right, I am. And I'd
like to say I like to cusssome couple of people I've been knowing to

(03:00:18):
rip an ass or too every nowand then. Yeah, it's okay,
wouldn't be the first time, won'tbe the last. Okay, there you
go, and all week two ofthis show, and I started and asked
me if I regret it? Hell, no, okay, I uh,
oh god, you know what.I'm a kinder gentler, and you gotta

(03:00:41):
unload. I was like, whatdid I do? Just sit there and
take it, bitch? Oh,cuss it out, you say, I
know that's not coming my way,But how did it hit me? Yeah?
How did I straight? Bullets?Like? Damn? This one's right
between the eyes and you do anything? There you goose They're rare, But
you know what, if you wantto get me fired up being traffic where
somebody's going forty in the slow inthe fasts, or I missed the four

(03:01:03):
foot put fourteen times on a green, you're playing golf today, I am.
I got some business take care ofher, some really some good business.
I can't wait to business finalize today. But other than that, I'm
gonna play golf and get at it. Yeah, I need to throw it
at the pen. Dude, it'sgonna be windy, dude. Hit it
low, yeah, low and angry, all striker, stay out of the
FESKT you gotta go. You guyswant a chip this weekend? No,
we're off this weekend, Thank youGod. Be a nice little relaxing weekend.

(03:01:28):
Maybe a couple of adult beverages.Who knows, Hey, go Kai
gets boring winning chips all the time, does yeah? Or just going one
and done on all right, that'sgonna do it. Have a great weekend,
very show. Yeah, go goTexans and Astros. Hopefully you'll be
back under a two game win streak. Yeah, we'll talk about that on
Monday, and also the NFL Draftrounds two and three tonight. That is
Sean Salisbury, our producer Triple EmmanuelElmore. I am Brian Liema. Thank

(03:01:50):
you for listening all week long.Enjoy your weekend and we'll talk to you
guys on Monday. Don't go anywhere. Next up, we'll stand Northley.
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