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Saulsbury old by Houston. Okay,let's do this. Sean Salisbury, there
to usc truth, longtime friend,Shawn Salisbury, Bryan Lima, go Lobos.
This is the Sewan Salisbury show.Playoffs. Oklahoma City, they're headed.

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They're headed on to the next roundas well, and Boston takes us
three to one series lead. ShaunTrabley, good morning, no shock anywhere
around in those in the NBA talkWe've got some great hockey player Dallas evens
that series. We got to hellifiedstuff going on, and those Rangers are
We're headed for some great hockey finals. So I keep saying that because I'm
throwing it out into the atmosphere andthe environer to the universe that can manifest

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we get a hockey team here,because I'm a little bit envious that Salt
Lake City is getting the Arizona CoyotessI am, but I'm happy for them
because that place will thrive anyway becausethey treat pro sports. Himan, you
got tot Utah, you better,you better get in line to get a
ticket, no matter what the records. People are showing up there right for
their jazz games. So with that, but back to this NBA thing real
quick. You know our guy Biscuitand nine and triple. You're talking about
the Lakers and I'm a diehard Lakerfan. Happen in my whole life.

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Now, there's been some shift indoctor Buss left and some of the with
Kobe that there's been a shift inthe culture there. Right, even though
Jeanie Buss is a good, shrewdbusinessman, they got to get back to
that. Right. That's neither herenor there. But what we say after
they won the playing game serious thatthey got to that you be careful what
you wish. Yeah, and guesswhat we knew that Now I'm not sure

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I thought it was going to bea sweet but we knew it wasn't gonna
last long. And if I amnot mistaken to my you know that get
into the mind like a still traptalk. Do you remember when it's pretty
recent when the captains of the likeKD and Lebron, they would choose all
their players in the All Star Game. Thank goodness, we're getting back to
the East versus West and do ityou know same? Hey? With everything

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that the same, they change,sayings remain the same, right, If
I'm not mistaken going into last night'sgame. You know who the last pick
for Lebron was one of those years, Nicola Jokic. You know what Jokic's
record now, I think is againstLebron since then. Maybe it's more than
this, maybe it's postseason record outof I think it's twelve and oh,

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and I don't know if that hasanything to do with it, But that
family, I think they keep receiptsor their brothers will just fight you in
the stands, whatever you want.If there's a brawl that breaks out,
take the Jokic family. Okay,I'm on their side because they come from
a different part of the world.They don't play. Okay, I think
he's twelve and oh. I don'tthink he's lost to Lebron since then.

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Maybe I'm crazy, but I don'tthink he has. So whether that has
anything to do, it's just coincidental. Great players that I've known, Kobe,
Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Hakeem, Elijah Want even though they made
a team, seems too nice tokeep any score. But the great ones,
they you know what they all do. They do. They got long
memories, brother, and the messagecontinues to be sent. So message there

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don't pick Nicola Jokic last, andsince then you damn near been the best
player in the NBA on a regularbasis. So I'm bummed for my Lakers.
But in truth, this was ano brainer. Ah, and you
knew it. And while Denver's thenumber two seed, what you're your Thunder's
the number one seed and playing theygot right, there were the number one
seed going in. It was itright, the Thunder was the one seed.

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I'm gonna tell you what I liketheir game, and I'm gonna tell
you another thing. I like Minnesota'sgame too. If Anthony Edwards isn't you
know who Anthony Edwards is now?And it's and it's bypassed him because of
the way he's playing John Morant butbetter. Yeah, I'm not saying he's
more talented, he's playing better basketballbecause of this is stuff. Morant still
trying to mature and find himself now. Both I'm gonna tell you those guys

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both have the skill set along witha guy like Booker, and you know
Devin Booker, and there's some greatyoung players. But I'm gonna tell you,
man, this dude, Anthony Edwardsis a freak. As they got
their elimination on they they they turnedthe Phoenix Suns into a big and U
Gatorade team. What do we callthat league? The G League? Yeah,

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I mean not saying those guys can't. They made the right So it
just it is that the Nuggets areare pretty good and the Celtics. No
shock there, Yeah, no shockthere. So the NBA, see,
there is some good stuff going.I know you're not watching. I'll keep
you informed. I watched, Iwanted to watch Anthony Edwards. I'm not
dogging you, but you like towatch players, but you do, you

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like to watch good players, andAnthony Edwards was yesterday. Yeah, dude,
just the explosion that that kid hasJordan out there, he can get
to the rack is unbelievable. Thetime he puts the ball on the deck
and decides he's going to finish.Yeah, there may not. There's some
listened there. Over the course oftime, there's been some phenomenal closures.

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Russ Westbrook, guys, who guys, Guys who are who were I'm not
saying underside Anthony Edwards is what asix to seven body? I think you
about six seven something like that.But these these guys who finished I'm going
to tell you right now though,when that guy decides he's taking you to
the bat, to the rack andgonna finish. You got two choices.
Get your ass out the way orturn into a highlight film and not the

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highlight film in a good way.You're the guy who's got the old it's
the d's nuts dunk. Okay.So the Nuggets are just better. The
Lakers are in a position, guys, they've got to do something different.
It's time they got to do somethingdifferent. So a lot on my mind
and sports today and get stuff andwith the Astros te in it back up,
I got pitching and why on mymind in the seven o'clock hour?

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Almost a wrath but kind of aquestion, a wrath a statement, and
I'll just tease it by saying this, what do we hit it at seven
o'clock? Top? At seven oclock? It's baseball? Ran I uh
in Triple EU two and our listenersand calls why is it now? Listen?
I hear people say all the timeall these guys nowadays are more talented
and gifted. Maybe, but you'renot going to tell me that. I'll
just speak for myself or the guytalk about guys in my lway or basketball

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or baseball players. You're not goingto tell me I couldn't last on this.
I'd last better than this. Totell me, I mean athlete,
I could still would have still beenplaying hoop the way I played it baseball,
right, But this isn't the oldhead or new head who's more talented.
Do I believe I could have takenLebron James back in the seventies and
he could have played. Yeah,there's no question. Could Bird play now?
Yeah? Probably. I think it'dbe easier to play now because of

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the lack of physicality and it's it'sthe emphasis on offense and scoring where you
had to play both ends back then. So I think it would be easier
to go from then to now thannow to then. But there are certain
guys like Lebron g You can tellme Anthony Edwards couldn't play against the Bird.
The truth is the athleticism is different, but they have better training,
more access just to I'm talking aboutdude. When I played, we didn't

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have a surface on the sidelines.I know it seems like our cake a
long time ago we had you hadto literally send down polaroids. Really dude,
they would send it. There arecertain stadiums where they'd send it on
a little line that would from thepress box down. You'd take the polaroids
off and the guy would hand toyou on the side and when you come
over for the sideline and you'd viewpolaroids. It was it was. It

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was still shots. You didn't getthe player, you get to the movement
or to cover nothing. So everythingthey do now, all this all this
analytics that they they have more resourcesnow than ever. Just listen, the
cell phone now can fit in thepalm of your hand where it used to
have to. He was like carryingaround a phone booth when you got the
cell phone. So things change.I get that, But when I'm just
referring to pitching, it's been inmy craw for a long time, and

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I will as dumb as I am. I'm staring at the ceiling in the
middle of the night and then goto ben wake up. Think why is
it then with all this training andI know guys kroll hopping in a batting
cage and trying to throw at fourhundred miles an hour, and I get
it and the way they're training,But why is it like a guy like
David Wells, and I loved Wellsyand he's the phenomenal smoke a grit.

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I don't even know if Wellsy Ithink he did and drink a beer.
They're they're, they're they're you know, have a cup of coffee for their
caffeine. Go out and give youeight innings every night. If the training
and the athletes are better, whyare we a hero worship on a five
inning game. If they're train more, shouldn't they be able to last longer?
Yeah, if you're trained more.If you're a trained sprinter, you

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should be able to maybe go alittle faster. If you're a trained you
know, uh, if you ifyou're trained, I don't know whatever.
I'm a football player, maybe yourun four two instead of four to three
to one if you're an ath Imean, so athletes and don't get it
skewed man. Just like I said, there's a difference between being a talented
team and a good team. Inbaseball, there's a big difference between being

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a talented athlete and being a goodone. There's a lot of talented guys
right now that are going to bewatching football in the fall. There's a
lot of talented baseball players. Mindyou run around them. You'll train some
of these kids you're training now,you think, man, I concede the
force through the trees. That kid'sgot ability. And then by the time
he's a sophomore in high school,he'll just be a guy. Yep.
And then they'll be the kid whohe like, keeps grinding, keeps grinding,
and he'll say, I don't knowwhat it's going to turn out.

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And then he's a senior and saythe kid's getting drafted, he's going to
d one scholarship. Bloom. Sure. So my thing about this is why
is it? And I'm trying tofigure it out. Are trainers and coaches?
Do they suck? I know theydon't. There's a lot of good
ones out there. Yeah, there'salso a lot of bad. That's oh,
I know. And when you givesomebody, when you have them good
and you train them to do somethingthey shouldn't be doing, you know how

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hard it is for you and meto go fix them and get them back
to normal. It's worse than itwas if you started out from scratch.
So my thing is is if they'rebetter athletes and they have more training and
more listen, these they're rolling outthe right. They'll do anything for them.
They can sleep in a chamber,so they're healthier and their bodies recover
quicker. So why is it thatI'm carrying a baseball player a picture.

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I'm not dogging the picture, butit's almost like we've created this year's supposed
to give me eighty five pitches andthrow five innings and I'm got five and
a third and that is a solidsuccessful outing. Dude, And I'm not
This isn't an old head thing,but let's not. Even Greg Maddix would
have laughed at your ass? Whata laughed at your ass? So why

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is it then you got all thisstuff and you're telling me, oh,
the game's changed, it's a bettergame now. No, it's not.
Maybe better athletes. You're faster,stronger, more opportunity to go, see
more home runs, and more velocity. Okay, so right, right,
but velocity. Listen, Brian,If I sit in a box tomorrow and
I know they're throwing ninety down themiddle in YouTube, I'm gonna hit.
I'm gonna eventually catch up to acouple of them. Yeah, I don't

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mean that, Eric, I justdamn Then those guys are gonna hit at
four hundred and fifty feet. Mywhole thing is, I don't get why
with all this they have at theirdisposal and they're working at training year round,
at specializing. Maybe that's the problem, is this year round specialization.
But in the pros, what happenedif you've got all this and they're bringing
a computer print out that says,dude, throw here, throw here,

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do this, do this? Andit can't just be because we're teaching seventeen
year olds to throw as hard asthey can. I just don't get where
we went wrong. And I dohave we do. We do compare errors.
We do compare Kobe to Jordan andLebron to Joean. We hear it
every day, So why can't wedo it with pitching? I think of
Maddox and I even go further backwhen I was was fernandov Allezuela or or
Dwight Gooden and guys, And I'mjust using those guys an example. Why

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in the world or John Smoltz,do you realize five innings for Greg Maddox
would have got him boot off thefield? Oh yeah, So why where'd
we go wrong here? Why isit are we ever going to switch back
to where we say no, no, no, dude, five innings you're
not in to make If you're afive inning pitcher in Major League Baseball,
you're in the bullpen. You ain'tYou're not a starter for me. So

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when are we going to get backto. It's not a matter of o
tough guy in flex. I'm justtalking about where does it come where dude,
you gotta gout out one hundred andten pitches? And I can tell
you right now just from you thinkNolan Ryan likes this. No, he
had to be a part see andhe had to sit in those stands as
a guy in a front office andowners and see it. I just don't
get with all this training and we'resupposed to be healthier, we're hurt more.

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They train harder, they train longer, they pitch less, and they
get paid more. Now, nowexplain this to me. I'm glad frommer
came back off the injury and isdoing well, But why are the praise
just using him as example for awark course, the guy who's an innings
eater. Why is it that we'resupposed to give here a worship to a
five inning game. Well, Ijust put up a random game from last

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night just for Baltimore Orioles watching gameslast night, it starts to chat my
ass. Baltimore beat the New YorkYankees two to nothing, two of the
best teams in Major League Baseball,Roll scoring Pitcher's duel right and Grayson Rodriguez,
the guy that got the win forthe Orioles, he pitched five and
two thirds innings. Schmidt for theYankees in the lost five and two thirds
innings. They didn't even get thesix innings. And you know what two

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to nothing game. You know whatannouncers will say when they come up and
five and two thirds. If you'rethe guy throwing the shut out, guess
what you would expect to do,even if it's twenty more pitches. Well,
we're worried about the arm win didWhy? Why are we worried about
the arm gets the sixth inning?That's my thing, dude. It was
a one to nothing game all theway until the eighth inning. Yeah,
I got a guy going a shutout. Why am I pulling him out?

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I don't know. My point isbecause you know why they're pulling him out.
Schmid gave up three hits and theycouldn't get to the sixth inning,
right, That's what I'm saying.It's like, oh, three hits,
one walk, after giving up three, it's got to pull him out.
Why he's pitching the old school,they would have said, you'd have been
in a fist five with your managerin the dugout. I just I'm trying
to figure out why we think thisis good baseball when they do that or

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here Listen, I love watching someof these great players, but watching ord
On hits priceless a'l twov. ButI'm talking about pitching specific Why is it
that you go, you give mefive innings, and do we are treating
it like, oh, what agreat quality start that would have got your
quality start, gets your bitch assback out there and give me a sixth
inning. I'm not saying the playersbegging out, but the mentality, the

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mentality is rune the pitching. Ithas Verlander think about this. Verlander is
going to be the last pitcher inMajor League Baseball history while you're alive,
if you live seventy more years,that is going to get to three hundred
wins. Yeah, if he's fortunateenough to do it. Now, you

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think about that, it's physically wecan't with our mindset. They can't get
because you're going to pitch four inningsnot get a decision there. I just
don't get where we think pitching maythey may throw harder on a consistent basis,
they are not better. No,they are. Honestly, it's not
a matter of old head versus dude. They are not better. And I
don't get where the hero worship comesfrom from a five inning outing in a

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two to nothing game. Both pitchersshould have stayed their ass in, not
that they begged out. Why arewe pulling them out? I think also,
and again we'll hit this right atthe seven o'clock hour. So so
much for so much for teasing.But I think there's another angle that that
we haven't really hit on, isthe specialization and the analytic part of it
as well, because then you gotto think about, like, I'm just

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looking at this this game right here, the Orioles and Yankees. Schmidt probably
at some point his manager or thebench coach saw a he's coming up third
time around, and then they goboom. They look at an analytical stat
Schmidt, when he faces a hitterfor the third time, his percentages go
from two to twenty batting average againsthim to him out. No, sometimes

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it's feel and all. He wasthrowing ninety five, but he's down in
ninety four. Yeah, man,Velo's art and the dick. It's down
to tick. Yeah, and it'snot. There's the analytics. Analytics,
in my opinion, play a hugerole into this and it specializes. Hey,
let's get up Santana Uh in thebullpen. He's he's X, Y,
and Z towards these next three hitters. And I don't know, can

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you imagine telling Lawrence Taylor, dude, we're just going to play you on
third down? Specialize in rushing thepause. One of the greatest of all
times can punched you in the face. No, you're playing me. I'm
a three down player. Yeah,that's what all eleven of us are supposed
to do. Yeah. So let'slet's this will be a good discussion that
we probably roll through all four hoursof. Let's talk about that at seven
o'clock. Talking pitching, Let's lookat this pitching matchup for the Houston Astros.

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Who's going to be on the Mountaintonight for the shows on Sports Talk
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seven ninety Boston extends their lead tothree games to one, Strategic to the
HISZL Travis Keltwell, you know what, Travis Kelsey signs a massive contract.

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All right, let me let metell you about Let you know, he
deserved it. He does, hedoes. But jay Z Taylor Taylor Swifts
said, a nice contract. Yeah, that's that's that's what. That's tip
money. That's that's exactly. That'san hour of my concerts exactly. It's
like half a concert for me.Yeah, but that's cool. Good for
you if you're trying to chase hermoney, doub guess what, Yeah,
try to chase it for a longtime. Yeah, that's forty seven lifetimes

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of like Wiley Coyote trying to chasethe road runner a man. Yeah.
What are you saying about jay Z? Yeah, well you know him,
and uh, we're probably gonna bedown on jay Z because you know Triple
he can, uh you know,he's our resident streets inside. What are
you saying about jay Z these days? Isn't he kind of like on the
fringe, him and him and himand p Diddy? Why? Why?

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Why are you guys. That's justwhat the streets are saying. I understand
the streets are wrong, or thestreets usually right. When you got your
ear to the pavement, the streetskind of no more. But you think
the streets are a little more intune. That's why the cops and people have
their informants, right, Yes,they know what's going on in the streets.
I could tell you. It's onething where you know you're up next

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in a good way. Right.You don't want to be up next on
the p diddy way right, No, you don't want to be that guy.
Yeah, you don't want to bethat guy. But what you could
be, You could be next up. Facts. You'll see them, hear
them at ten times. There yougo. That's Stand Northley and Chris Cordy
right here on Sports Talk seven ninetyNext up. So what what's the newest?
I try to stay out of thethe the no, not just the

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rumor mill, the the trafficking stuffedmilk. Yeah, it gives me a
six stomach because I don't know howa human being wakes up and says,
you know what, let's go,or a parent sells their kid. Yeah,
we ought to just line you upin the old school firing squad and
pull frigging bullet in your head ifyou're doing that to your kid. Uh.

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Jay Z apparently is next indeed,yeah child, I mean that that
whole Uh. I mean, that'sjust what the streets are saying. Basically,
a lot of people think he's connectedwith P Diddy. Hmm. His
name was mentioned multiple times in acourt filing. Oh yeah, yeah,

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so apparently they apparently they him andP Diddy have a special pact to where
jay Z won't speak and throw himunder the bush. But Beyonce not named
in this. That's great. Sothe Bayhive, even the government's afraid of
the may. I mean, youheard Charles Charles Barkley in the audio yesterday
talk about apologizing to Beyonce's mom,Missus Knowles. But uh, in a

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downright fist fight, bey Hive verusSwifties. I think Beayhive's a little more
street smart. Yeah, but Ialso but they the swift He's coming numbers.
And that's the other thing. It'sstrengthened numbers. That's that's that ten
on one fight getting kicked in thekage you see on videos all the time.
Everybody's taping it now or videoing it, not going in there to help,

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right, Yeah, I'm not messingwith the swifties, man, I'm
not. And they come in allshaped sizes. I'm not messing with them.
Hey, regardless of all this,and nobody is smirking at what trafficking
and that that stuff's disgraceful. ButI can tay, like I said to
me, lock them up, throwaway the key, and if this is

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done, I don't really care whatkind of stars they are. Enough enough,
There can be nothing more I thinkabout. You know, dog abuse,
child abuse, beating up on awoman, is selling your kids,
selling kids for money? I knowdrugs are an awful thing, but sell
but but sometimes they're not selling fordrugs. They're just selling for the thrill

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of the game. Who does thatto me? Is there anything more heinous
and a tough way to start thismorning. We'll get back to trying to
have some laughs and talk sports.But there is no I got no compassion
for them, Absolutely hell no.Because even if the kid survives, yeah,
you're you're damaged, damaged. Matterof fact, at times you probably

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think, honestly, you probably think, please let this end. And in
a way that I how do Ido this anymore? I just the lack
of how we even allow this toexist, and it exists far more than
we even know by a lot ofpeople that we'd probably know their name.
Well, we hear it every dayand it is right. I don't know
how. It's just a friggin disgrace. Man. You see what the streets

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do to this man triple But Ican't. I can't when it comes to
like the abuse of like animals,kids, women, anybody, old folks,
another another group. I'll tell youwhat. It's as abused as it
gets. You know, your kid, your parents raise you, your Now,
I know families disagree, and andhey, what family does say I'm
not talking to my mom and dadfor a year. I'm staying we've all

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been through right, I'm running awayfrom home. I'm not talking to my
parents. I'm talking about the deepserious stuff. Your family raises you.
Your mom and dad spend their wholelife raising you. And it takes me
back to that movie Grand Torino whenClint Eastwood, who is sharper than his
kid, and the wife you know, they come over there and say,
hey, move into a home.He hell, you got a drink?
Dog on paps with the ribbon onhis porch, whether you like it or

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not. And parents raise us ourwhole life, and they give you everything
matter of fact, to the pointof when I think about I'm just speak
for my parents, to the pointof my dad's work boots starting to tear
up, so we could have tennisshoes to go play basketball. And that's
the fact I remembered seven dollars fortwo pair pay Less shoes so I could
have shoes to go to school.I thought I was cool. They're like
black cloth, low top shoes togo to seventh grade. But I and

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my pops still tell work boots,you need a new pair of workboots.
Right. I think about that,and I think about all they did and
then to turn around and the secondthey become a little bit of a hassle
parents, when you flip the scriptwhen you're supposed to carry them on your
back. Now, let's just putthem all. I don't want to be
bothered. I just that's why Iget to when you talk about the streets,

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when I think about some of thatstuff, man, when I just
can't take listen. I got tostay away from that stuff because I don't
have discretion when it comes to youknow that guy said, no, Sean,
don't do it. Oh yeah,yes he is. I'm defending anybody
like that. And if it meanswell, what happens if something I always

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let when people say, well,you're gonna jump into what happens if you
get hit or shot or if youtake long enough? Like when I brought
Russell into my home the homeless foreighteen months, my buddy said, dude,
or two years, buddy, whatif he comes into stabs in the
middle night. Well, I guessit's a chance I had to take.
And it turned out that, youknow, two lives changed or more lives,
the cloud of damage from me atleast, and so the cloudal damage

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in a good way, not abad way. The collad the good stuff.
So I just when that comes up, I got no compassion for people
that do that. I just don't. I don't, and you don't.
You don't get there's nothing funny aboutit, and there's nothing. I don't
care how many albums you produced.If you're that guy, lock them up,
throw away the key, and youget no chance of parole because you

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you ruined life after life after life. Screw you, that's the way I
feel. I'm right there with you. And if I want to get to
campus, if I want to getto class at USC, I'm getting to
class. I'll just throw that in. Ain't stopping me and stopping my two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars they're payingto go to class. You don't get
to stop me from going to class. And you'll take a forearm shiver on

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my way there if you decide youwant to stop it. Dude, I
watched the video yesterday of them stoppingstudents trying to go to class at UCLA.
You want to know how much staythe hell do you want to how
much of this is stage? They'repaying them to be eighty five actors.
I mean it was statistically proven,like last week at the University of Texas,
I think it was fifty six arrests. Fifty two of them had no
association with the university if four ofthem were students, of course, And

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we know a couple of guys whoare behind it that fund all stuff like
this, And I'm off and I'mtrying to get over this because they got
to take this out of the eyefor an eye, your abuse a kid.
We'll just stone you. We'll goback to the old ages. We'll
stand there, we'll have stole rod, big old bowlders at your head.
If you drown a kid, oryou throw them in there, or you
sell them, we're gonna do thesame thing. Do you put you through

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the same thing you want to go? Do you want to be archaic because
some of the stuff we're doing isarchaic awful, Then we'll just see his
eye for an eye. Yeah,if you want to do that to a
kid, then we're gonna sit.I know that sounds crazy, but how
else are you gonna scare people straight? Well, it's crazy. Need to
change, by the way, pitchersneed to give me six six And also
let's look at the rotation set forthe Astros as they take on the Guardians.

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That's next on the Shawn Salisbury Show. Hey, this is Charles Barker
and you guys talk. I puton some way since my playing days.
You shall see Sean Solisborough horrible.Now back to the Sean Solersborough Show.
What a knucklehead? Now, sixo'clock is when the on deck show starts
right here on seven on your homefor Astros Baseball seven to ten. The

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first pitch Hunter Brown on the mound. NBA playoffs are rolling along. The
Lakers eliminated, the Pelicans eliminated.Travis Kelce signed himself a contract extension with
the Chiefs. All right, SeanTripley, Let's look at the pitching rotation
for the Houston Astros. They areback at home, fresh off a sweep

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of the Rockies in Mexico City.They're next Let's see three, six,
nine, Their next twelve some stiffcompetition. Cleveland winning their division. Seattle
right there in the hunt for thisdivision here early New York Yankees, one
of the best teams in baseball,and then the Detroit Tigers, who are
seventeen to twelve on the season.So this next twelve man not easy,

(25:41):
you know how it goes in thedivision matchups against Seattle, that's always a
grind. They've got some really goodpitching. But let's focus here first on
Cleveland. Cleveland playing really good baseball. Are you okay with five hundred baseball
the next twelve games? No,I'm not either. I'm not. Now
where they're at right now? Whatare they nine to nineteen? Well,
okay's just well, it's the perfectdefinition playing five hundred baseball is a perfect

(26:02):
definition of okay in mid right,Yeah, nine and nineteen. Yeah,
Well, the optics of six andsix matter, I think. Is there
such thing as a good six andsix? So what if they went six
and six, they go, that'sfifteen, fifteen, and twenty five.
Let's say they're six, so theystay where they are right now. No,
let's say the past six and sixa brall you hits four home runs

(26:22):
and they just listen, be honest, there was playing a game with you
six and six. A bray youhomers four times in twelve games, gets
on Lido two in one game,and then get a little pop and Bregman
is uh, start slugging it aboutfive fifty six hundred, and it hits
three home runs himself in the nexttwelve games. But they're six and six.

(26:44):
Optics change for you. I mean, that shows me that the lineup
is doing with the lineup, butthey're still but the sum still not winning.
That is going to tell you thatpitching her bullpen wasn't good. As
long as Jrdan's doing this thing alltwo, they continues to hit, right,
but if all of a sudden Bregmanpicks it up and o'brak, you
get I understand, dude, that'sI get it. But he still had
ninety RBIs last year, which isshocking. And then all of a sudden,

(27:07):
Paina starts waving it back. Ifit got to the point where two
other guys that are hitting, allof a sudden Tucker doesn't drive, but
two runs in in twelve games andone's a sacrifice flying ones on opposite field,
say then that optics one offsets theother and they're right back to playing
average. Basically, they can't playfive hundred baseball and get where they want
to go. And now eight andfour with better optics, different stufre we

(27:30):
go. Now we're talking so paramountfor the pitching staff, paramount for the
back end the bullpen to do whatwe saw in Mexico City right coming out
of it and still important for them. Listen, I want, if I
can get, what would you rathertake long ball after long ball or drove
in runner after runner with runners inscoring position playing small ball? What will

(27:52):
give you the get a better ideathey're a better team. Give me the
driving in runners guy guy on secondthird, little if you pump an opposite
field base hit or pull on andscore to it was over the long solo
home run by a bray. Thatshows me that they're that they're making adjustments
to to fix what they have notdone well so far this year, and
that's driving runners and and and squaringit up. Right, I'm okay with

(28:15):
that a matter of fact for me. It'll tell me then it we're closer
to turning it around. Yeah,exactly, that's right. So that that's
that's because anybody can run into atape measure job or a home line and
at some point I'm sure he willmaybe whole kind of let's hope. I
don't know. You would it beeasier if he was just an ass clown?

(28:36):
Yeah, just just just a yeah, you're just like, what,
get his ass out? What'll beeasier? But after all this time,
still still and you you're we're allteammates in some way, whether it's in
your business or it's you know,in sports. There's still that part of
me because I've been with teammates whostruggled in a sport the hell I have
right and to have guys rally aroundyou still be a good teammate. It's

(29:00):
tough to do where you're not feelingsorry for yourself and if he is doing
it in private or whatever, Butyou know, in two years or a
year and a half, now,tell me one thing he's blamed on anybody
else. Nothing. And I hearhim talk, I go right, And
I do got to give him alot of credit for that, because you
know how easy it is to startgiving the old I confess and excuses because
you want everybody to know. Listen, we're watching and the truth why he's

(29:22):
not giving excuses. He knows thathe's not earning his keep right now,
and that's just the fact, andit's not just him. So I will
can I'll always at least thumb upa great teammates. It's easy to be
a good teammate when you're playing well. I mean, you took it to
both of the two halves of hisseason this year and last year. We're
not even half, but the startof both seasons, it would have been

(29:45):
easy to go completely into the tankand be kind of a horses ass teammate.
Yeah, causing problems, yeah,and just frustrations right, And you
know what, he just continues tostay of course, so he's easy to
root for now. I don't knowif root and for him is not gonna
make a hill of beans if youcan't score up a fe aass ball at
ninety three out and over the plate. But I still there's that part of
me that says, you're you're rootingfor not only just for the team,

(30:07):
but for him. Dude. Ilike I said, anybody that's been through
a slump, a long one,it's like this blows man. Yeah,
I know, good teammates matter,and I would imagine that locker room is
doing a good job of keeping him. You know, like, come on,
dude, just keep grinding, keepgrinding, And it's important that that's
what's made this team pretty special foreight years. They they don't seem to
allow a guy to start struggling tofeel it alone. But they still at

(30:32):
the bottom line, is we stillit's about wins and losses. They still
got to play better. Yeah.Same with Hunter Brown. He's going to
be on the mound tonight and Seanhopefully he paints a couple of corners tonight,
the really cheesy leading, the reallyclever thing that's a clever pro leading
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Oh also check this out. Ishould have warned if Sean only cares about
cold hard. Back to the SeanSalisbury show on Sports Talk seven ninety talking
about the pitching matchups for the Astros. Hunter Brown on the Mountain tonight and
this outing for him is huge.He has not pitched well this season.

(32:49):
He's had basically one good outing.He's zero to four on the season with
a nine point six to eight eer. A. You can't you can't
not pitch him. That's the problem. And now, see this is a
guy. Okay, here's a perfectexample of what we talked about, the

(33:09):
passionate part of when we started thisshow. Here's the perfect situation of a
guy who's young, never had tomy knowledge, at any point in time,
has he ever had elbow soreness orarm surgery. No, No,
Tommy John Right, he's young.He's in his early twenties, mid twenties.
So why is it that let's sayhe's going good tonight and he's in

(33:34):
five innings and he's at eighty fivepitches if I guess, we call that
going good. Now, Brian,he's two to one, three to one
strikes to balls, he's having oneof those nights and it's three to one.
They got a cheap solo home runon him. Six inning rolls around,
and he's eighty five pitches, ninetypitches. Isn't this the perfect case

(33:57):
in point where you've got to gogrind it out and win? Or is
it like, nah, let's getto the back end of that bullpen.
And see, that's my point.Why if he thrown ninety seven, why
do I need to get hater tothrow ninety seven or ninety eight, and
for him, wouldn't it be psychologicallyimportant to let him finish as much?
When I say finish, to goto go, Max freed on him and

(34:19):
give you. I mean, ifyou can get if you're at one hundred
and five pitches and you're pitching greatbaseball. But you know what if he
went eight innings at one hundred andfive pitches and it was three to one,
you know they're going to the closer, right, Yeah. Yeah.
He's had a five outings so farthis year and just one of them has
gone past four innings. That wason April sixteenth against Atlanta. They lost

(34:40):
six to two. He pitched sixinnings, five hits, two urn runs,
three walks, three ks, eightyeight total pitches. If Hunter Brown,
and like I said, how canhe not root for the guy's success,
not just because he's an astro.Of course you want him. You
see great stuff at times. Butyou know what, if they were fully
healthy after this start, Hunter Brownwould not be a starting pitcher for the

(35:02):
Houston Asters. I don't even knowif he'd be ablet the big league level.
Well, in truth, if thiswas the struggle, you'd have to
put him down to gain some confidence. Again, I don't care what anybody
says. You can't tell me he'sconfident right now? No, right,
But there's that P word, right, potential. Yeah, man, look
at his stuff. But you can'tkeep saying look at his stuff. If

(35:23):
his stuff. If I got aguy who runs four to three and can't
run a route, and he justsee he runs bad routes on a regular
basis, But man, he's gotpotential. Do I keep running him out
there? If he the insanity parkkicks and keeps doing the same thing over
and over expecting a different result.No, Eventually, I got to Eventually,
I can't start you, I can'tplay you, and I couldn't root
harder for him. But I alsoknow that he's pitching for one reason well

(35:47):
too, they like his potential andstuff. I guess that's two reasons.
And the third reason is you're limitedon where you can go. Whitley's hurt.
You can't bring him up. Youalready sent JP France down. You've
got a couple of young players thatare you know, I mean low perffitos
up. I mean you're trying tofind that magic and you hope you can

(36:07):
discover it the next twelve games.But as Dana Brown said last week,
let's just win three in a row. Well, they've got two. But
this is a different test than whatyou've gotten in Mexico City. Yeah,
you should see these the records forthese teams that are coming into Mino Ma
Park. Oh, I have Guardiansat nineteen and nine, Yankees, Well,

(36:30):
I'm sorry, Guardians at nineteen andnine, then the Mariners at sixteen
and thirteen. They lead the division, and then they go to the Yankees
nineteen and eleven, and then theygo to the Detroit Tigers who are sixteen
and twelve. Sorry earlier I saidseventeen twelve. They're sixteen and twelve.
Still, that's not going to bean easy place to play. They've got

(36:51):
some good young players, they've gota little bit some sneaky power, They're
getting some pretty decent pitching this year. They can be danger And also,
by the time you were in thatyou know, in this the first nine
games, by the time you getto Detroit, hell, if you're not
playing well, that fatigal sit inthere too. It's like, oh my
gosh, now we're going to playa former manager in Detroit's playing good baseball

(37:14):
and good for AJ Hinch and thatfront office. It's got that team doing
some good things early on in theseason. Hey, what do you think
they're saying in Detroit. They're saying, they're saying, we're doing some really
good things. But it's early yet, it's early, but they're playing good
baseball. So they're riding that ponyyou said, sixteen and twelve, twenty
eight games and they have a Taricschoobl his four and all on the mount

(37:34):
with a one point seventy pitching hisass off. Yeah, there's no doubt.
Do they draw him on that?Imagine? Well, I don't know.
He's averaging almost eleven strikeouts per nineright now, giving you a little
Spencer Strider from last year. Mygoodness in Atlanta. Let's see as of
right now, Yeah, they wouldbe set to face Schooble. Well there

(37:57):
you go. Yep, they wouldface him on a Saturday game. That
won't be easy. Hey, anddon't don't worry man Detroit up there.
You know who the you know whothe manager is for the Detroit Tigers.
Yeah, A J. Hinch,Uh huh. They're hinching closer to getting
Detroit back to where they are,and I give a hinch, they take
a mile. Yeah, hinching ain'teasy. Yep, really, I mean
I just a hinch that they'll beready to play when the Astros get there.

(38:22):
I have a hinch that Detroit's gonnabe in the run, in the
mix the whole year. Okay,what did you say, Like we said,
you got to give me If yougive a hinch, dude, they
take them off. They do.The phrase give an inch and they will
take a mile means that making smallconcessions to someone will allow that person to
take advantage of you in a muchlarger way. Yeah, if you yield

(38:45):
or give in, you will betaking advantage of There you go, So
don't you. You can't give inbecause you give a J. Hinch's team
an inch a hinch, they'll takea mile, they will. Big knight
for Hunter Brown. I need Ineed, I need seven from you tonight,
son. Uh are you betting it? Taking the over on five and

(39:06):
the third on five and the third? Yeah, I'm taking the under a
right, So you need Unfortunately youneed seven. You also need powerball numbers
too, brother, that's true.Yeah, we could all use a couple
of power ball We can all hopeand wish and draw out the good good
karma out there. What a goodmanifest manifest. Yeah, he's gonna throw
seven an give me seven, stilltaking the under and a brave is hitting

(39:30):
for the cycle. Okay, Bra, you shouldn't even in the lineup.
Let's supposed be real here. Heywe still look you're actually a mean guy.
Man. I'm just saying they stillhave not made a corresponding move to
Joey Loberfido. They sent Trey Cabbageback down because he was up, because
they added a man for the internationalthat was more than likely to be a
two game step. Yes, sendhim back down, but they still have

(39:52):
to make a corresponding move to bringup Joey Loberfito. Well, and if
I'm not mistaken, he's not onthe forty man. So since they're going
to add him to the forty man, they either have to send someone down
or dfa someone. Well, you'regonna get that answer in a couple hours,
I would hope. So I don'tthink you have a choice, right,
I don't think you have to.Yeah, they have to be that
answer. I think it's like threeo'clock deadline. I don't know, something

(40:14):
like that. Yeah, Ori.Let's getting the seven o'clock hour. Sean's
got some uh some thoughts on pitchingin Major League Baseball. What does he
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(40:37):
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(41:00):
go Lobos. This is the SeansALS Very Show, six o'clock on deck
show right here on Sports Talk sevenon your home for Astros Baseball, NBA
Playoffs, Rolling along. The Lakerseliminated, the Pelicans eliminated the Celtics extend
their series lead to three games toone seven one three, two two five,

(41:23):
seven ninety. We're talking about theAstros and the pitching in Major League
Baseball. Brandon has been holding onfor quite a while. Lets get out
to Brandon Brandon. Good morning,good money, Brian, how are you
guys. We're fantastic. Man,how are you this morning? I'm right,
I'm I'm gonna sorry for petching forHearno Brown. Yeah, I think

(41:45):
we are too. It's he's duefor one of those dominant performances, isn't
he? Brandon? Yes, youexcited for the game. I am excited?
All right? Brandon? Give usgive it? Are they gonna win
tonight? Yes? Say Will?I don't know, Brandon, Come on,
man, fired up for us?Let me? Are they gonna win

(42:05):
tonight? Yeah, that's what I'mtalking about. Yeah, right, Brandon,
there we go. You gotta laughat him. Yeah, ladies and
gentlemen, Zig, there we Goigziggler. They're gonna win tonight. Brandon.
What's that doing the show? Isit an a team or is it somebody?

(42:29):
I would assume it starts at sixo'clock, so I would assume it's
gonna be uh, maybe Clanton Wexler, maybe Dan Matthews, one of them.
What was the question, who's gonnado the on Deck show tonight?
Oh? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, probably one of them,
Brandon. They'll be they'll do ahell of a job like they always do.
Okay, I will listen to him. There you go. We appreciate

(42:50):
the call. Brand Have a goodday, okay, have a good night
guy. Thanks Brandon. It's alwaysnice to hear from Brandon. What do
you mean, dude, I'm ahype man. It's nice try to hear
your modenovation and it's nice to hearBrandon calling. Let me try to fire
up tripley, tripley. Good morningmorning guys. Hey man, how you
feeling this morning? All right?Down? Or know? You're good?

(43:12):
Life is good? You sure youknow? But that's all breaking the neck.
Huh. Well, if you're ChristianHarvey, you're gonna go to the
ten day I oh, okay,yeah, let me take him hopefully fifty
i'll be out of office. Hey, hopefully hoping he'd be back in fifteen
days. Shaun Watson probably has agood massage therapy for you. Here we
go? What what? There wego? He could probably refer you to

(43:35):
somebody. Yeah, he said hisneck was sore. Yeah. I think
I'm just you know, old schoolalways you know, I packed, you
know, I think I'll do itneck. He can bring his own towel
like Shaan Watson, what neck withhis neck? Not as Oh yeah,
yeah, and I'm a bag andI'm a lower bag, not as kay
or as or just stop remember that? Yeah that too? Yeah? Oh

(44:00):
yeah, you think about how heain't going to weird that money. He
ain't going to a massage, prostatecheck. Okay, wow, stop,
all right. I mean it's Imean it's not it's not funny because of
the women involved in that and everything. But my god, what a nasty
Just what are we do when well, you like you told me you like
to punch yourself in the face.I told you that in confidence. But

(44:22):
you know what, unbelievable. Dog. Just sometimes I get carried away with
you, dude, your motivational speechto be right? Yes, out of
the bus man? Hey god islet me put it in reverse? Yeah?
Back over triple This man comes inwearing salmon and and all of a
sudden he's just gonna throw me.How about my look? My drips?
Nice? What brand is that?Actually? No free plugs? I see

(44:45):
the m on your hat. That'snot a that's not at that's Travis Matthew.
Okay, it's Travis Matthew. I'mTravis Matthew. Had to tell other
than the joggers, they're not reallytheir joggers that a team at pull over
to honey, see what is that? That's a w though, isn't that?
Yeah? I'm not Hagen Wally Hagen, Walter Hagen brand good stuff,

(45:12):
but I I got you know,I'm normally one hundredman when it comes to
golf, where I'm a I'm adeep dive into Travis Matthew. Who Travis
Matthew. Okay, I'm gonna saya louder so so so well so the
people in the back can hear,yeah, or anybody listening. Shawn Watson's
in the back, go ahead withhim. Put that on. Don't put
that on, teel Well. Itried to motivate him, but he doesn't

(45:37):
need motivation because he is a walkinghigh man himself. Yes, sir,
Yeah, see we got our paradigmsin the correct direction here on the on
the show, thanks to Seawan.Yeah. I love pitching. Pitching,
Yeah, Deshaun Watson. You knowwhat, we got a guy better than

(45:58):
him. We don't have to worryabout that, I think, thankfully.
Another thing that comes to mind is, you know we were talking about Chris
Ballard yesterday. We played his audioabout how he was calling out these unnamed
sources and questioning kids character coming outof college. You know another thing that
we heard about c J. Stroud, He'll never sign with the Texans because

(46:20):
of David mullaghetta same as the agentfor Deshaun Watson. Deshaun, Deshaun Watson
and c J. Shroud had thesame agent and so TRIPLEI. You were
still in college. But when allthat Deshaun Watson drama was going on,
David Moulagelo was at the front ofit trying to get Deshaun Watson out of
Houston. And apparently there was alot of beef going on between Mullagetta and

(46:42):
I'll take the Texans organization right.So he represents c J. Stroud.
There was a big room before theTexans drafted c J. Stroud is that
he would never sign with the Texansbecause of how they quote unquote handled Deshaun
Watson. I Crazy d Houston,I Heart radio station, the Astros,

(47:04):
the Rockets, Rockets, bast Ball, your home for your home teams.
This is Sports Talk seven ninety drivenby that classic Elite to View at GMC
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(47:24):
let's do this. Sean Salisbury tousc troupe, longtime friend, Shawn
Salisbury, Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewan Salsbury Show.
NBA Playoffs, Rolling along. TheLakers eliminated, the Pelicans eliminated the Celtics,

(47:45):
extend their series lead to three gamesto one seven one three, two
two five seven ninety. We're talkingabout the Astros and the pitching in Major
League Baseball. Brand has been holdingon for quite a while. Let's get
out to Brandon any Good morning,Good money, Brian, how are you
guys. We're fantastic, man,How are you this morning? I'm right,

(48:06):
I'm I'm gonna sorry for petching forHena Brown. Yeah. I think
we are too. He's due forone of those dominant performances, isn't he,
Brandon? Yes? You excited forthe game. I am excited?
All right? Brandon? Give usgive it? Are they gonna win tonight?

(48:27):
Yes? Say well, I don'tknow, Brandon, Come on,
man, fired up for us?Let me? Are they gonna win tonight?
Yes? That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, right, Brandon,
there we go. You gotta laughat him. Yeah, Ladies and gentlemen,
zig Lima, there we go,Big Ziggler. They're gonna win tonight.

(48:49):
Brandon, what's that doing the show? Is it an a team or
is it somebody? I would assumeit starts at six o'clock, so I
would as him it's gonna be uhmaybe Clanton Wexler, maybe Dan Matthews,
one of them. What was thequestion, who's gonna do the on Deck
show tonight? Oh? I don'tknow. Yeah, yeah, probably one
of them, Brandon. They'll bethey'll do a hell of a job like

(49:10):
they always do. Okay, I'lllisten to him. There you go.
We appreciate the call. Brand havea good day, Okay, to have
a good day, guys, ThanksBrandon. It's always nice to hear from
Brandon. What do you mean,dude, I'm a hype man. It's
nice try to it's nice to hearyour motivation, and it's nice to hear
Brandon call it. Let me tryto fire up tripley, tripley. Good

(49:34):
morning morning guys. Hey man,how are you feeling this morning? All
down? I don't know. You'regood? Life is good? You sure
you know, but that's all breakingthe neck. Huh. Well, if
you're Christian, hobby you're gonna goto the ten day I oh, okay,
yeah, let me take them.Hopefully fift'll be out of office.
Hey, hopefully you'll be out,hoping you'd be back in fifteen days.
Deshaun Watson probably has a good massagetherapy for you. Oh here we go?

(49:55):
What what go? He could probablyrefer you to somebody. Yeah,
he said his neck was sore.Yeah. I think I'm just you know,
old school always, you know,I you know, I think I'll
do it. He can bring hisown towel like Sean Watson neck his neck,

(50:15):
not as oh yeah, yeah,and I'm a bag and I'm a
lower bag, not as ask oras or just stop remember like yeah that
too. Yeah oh yeah. Youthink about how he ain't going to that
money, he ain't going to amassage prostate check. Okay, wow,
stop all right. I mean it'sI mean it's not it's not funny because

(50:37):
of the women involved in that andeverything. But my god, what a
nasty Just what do we do whenwell, you like you told me you
like to punch yourself in the face. I told you that in confidence.
But you know what, unbelievable,bad dog. Just sometimes I get carried
away with you, dude, yourmotivational speech to be right through out of

(50:58):
the bus many got let me putit reverse, Yeah, over triple.
This man comes in wearing salmon andand all of a sudden he's just gonna
throw me. How about my lookmy drip brand? Is that? Actually
I see the m on your hat. That's not a that's not a that's
Travis Matthew. Okay, Travis Matthew, I'm Travis Matthew. Had to other

(51:21):
than the joggers. They're they're notreally their joggers. Pull over to honey,
you see what is that? That'sa w though, isn't that?
Yeah, I'm not White Hagen WallyHagen, Walter Hagen brand good stuff,
But I I got you know,I'm normally one hundredman when it comes to

(51:42):
the golf where I'm a I'm adeep dive into Travis Matthew. Who Travis
Matthew. Okay, I'm gonna saya louder so so so well so the
people in the back can hear yeah, or anybody listening Sea Watson in the
back ahead put that on, don'tput that on? Uh tell well,
I tried to motivate him but hedoesn't need motivation because he is a walking

(52:06):
high band himself. Yes, sir, yeah, see we got our paradigms
in the correct direction here on theon the show, thanks to Shawn.
Yeah, I love pitching. Pitching. Yeah, Deshaun Watson, what you
know what, we got a guybetter than him. We don't have to
worry about that, thankfully. Anotherthing that comes to mind is, you

(52:34):
know we were talking about Chris Ballardyesterday we played his audio about how he
was calling out these unnamed sources andquestioning kids character coming out of college.
You know another thing that we heardabout c J. Stroud he'll never sign
with the Texans because of David mullighettasame as the agent for Deshaun Watson.
Deshaun Watson and c J. Shroudhave the same agent, and so tripley.

(52:57):
You were still in college. Butwhen all that Deshaun Watson and drama
was going on, David Muligella wasat the front of it, trying to
get Deshaun Watson out of Houston,and apparently there was a lot of beef
going on between Mullagetta and I'll tellthe Texans organization, right, So he
represents c J. Stroud. Therewas a big room before the Texans drafted
c J. Stroud is that hewould never sign with the Texans because of
how they quote unquote handled Deshaun Watson. I listen, crazy, I can

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tell you what. Mullagedt is nevergoing to try to get c J.
Stroud out of here. This istoo good at gig. Fah, dude.
C J. Stroud's he's got itgoing on. It's again to listen.
Sometimes you got to trudge through somestuff and listen. Mullaget's job as
an agent, whether you like theway it goes about his business or not,
he's successful and got a lot ofclients and his job, that's why

(53:43):
they keep hiring him, is toget what's best for his client. That
is an agent's should. The ScottBoris is David Mulligetta and it's when you
got a guy who's doing what cJ. Stroud is, it's an easy
sell, easy negotiation with you endorsementsand the team. It pretty much goes
as smooth as you need it togo. And that's a good client to

(54:04):
have. And quite frankly, ifyou're CJ. Stroud, you're probably grateful.
Dave David Mulliget is your agent,because seems like they're working shoulder to
shoulder and get it done. Hey, one guy's loss is another guy's gain,
and one guy's problems doesn't mean wegot to heap him onto the next
guy. The agent's job is torepresent each guy individually, and he's got
a responsibility to do that. Andremember, it's not the agent who makes

(54:27):
the decisions for you. It's theplayer who tells the agent. The agent
works for the player, not theother way around. Yeah, it's crazy
to look back at some of thoserumors that we heard rivforre CD Shroud was
drafted. Are you ready to talkabout this pitching stuff? Yeah, I
just yeah, I do. Webrought it up, but I think it
bears. I'm trying to figure outwhise. I want to know the whys
and the wins and the hows.This what we've got to this point overall.

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And it's not old versus new.But if old isn't as good as
new, why is new hurt moreand pitch less? That's my point.
Yeah, and we can discuss.Yeah, let's discuss that next in the
steakout right here on The Shawn SalisburyShow. We're gonna have to turn this
matter over to Sean Oh no more, Shawn Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

(55:19):
All right, Sean, what areyou hearing out there now? The
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(55:45):
The first pitch hunder Brown on theMountain six o'clock is when the on
Deck show starts right here on sevenon your home for Astros. Baseball NBA
Playoffs rolling along, Celtics sixtend theirlead to three games to one, Pelicans
eliminated, and so are the Lakers. Let's talk Major League Baseball and pitching.
Sean, what irks you the mostabout the current state of pitching in

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Major League Baseball? The dumbest thingskeep me up. Little things. The
big things don't bother me. Igo come to big the h It's the
little things, you know, whetherit's disrespect or whether it's things that you
should be able to control, butyou can't, or sometimes the little things
that are out of your control thatyou want to grasp onto that you can't.
So this isn't a finger pointed atthe old or middle finger at the

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new, or vice versa. Thisis just trying to be figured out with
our great listeners and callers and youand me bantering over this, and so
why it hit me? Guess watchingbaseball and I'm thinking you brought up the
Yankees on a regular basis. Ithink, okay, the conversation has been
had eight million times over Bob Gibsonand Don Drysdale and Sandy Kofax and Greg

(56:52):
Maddox and those guys tough Roger Clemensand Nolan Ryan and then ooh, five
innings. But I'm trying to where'sthis? And I guess we're never going
back. And I know that seemsso simplistic that I could sit here and
rant and rave and scream and yell. But let me give you both sides
of this, And this isn't oldhead versus new as you know both of
us. I think change in baseballand credit to the current athlete is phenomenal.

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But I also think that we probablyneed to give more credit to somebody
like who paved the road for theseguys to get paid and do all those
things. It all kind of tome it's simpatico. But the separation comes
from this, whether it's coaching youngtrainers, and it's in all sports,
but I'm focusing on pitching since excuseme, it's such a lightning rod topic

(57:37):
and it's on my mind, soI'm gonna let it rip is. And
regardless of you're a feeler analytics person, but play this game with me.
If I came to you and said, athletes today have more access to great
training, they specialize more, theyshould be healthier because they got easy,

(57:58):
quicker ways to heal like those.What is it that you can sit in
a tank nowadays and get the oxygenthe hyper bear chamber. You've got trainers,
private trainers, nutritionists. Listen,guys I played with their nutritionists,
was burger king? Okay? Soand they still were able to go out

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and perform. So my question isnumber one, why are we over so
protective of our pictures these days?We always talk about that we are,
But the questions why two is andI don't the words soft, I don't
think Christian hobby or this year isn'tanybody's example. Some picture is soft because

(58:42):
he goes now if he's complaining abouta hangnail and pitches once every three days
because he's afraid of the competition.To be a different story, I'm just
talking about straight out pitching. Isit the environment now that we've created society
wise in baseball? Is it?When did we get to be a hero
for five innings? And if youare a hero after five we and then
you walk a guy, well you'reat eighty pitches. We got to get

(59:05):
him out. Whatever happened. Itis kind of like now we don't let
our kids go through adversity. Wethink we got to protect them from everything,
and that's the worst thing we cando. We always want to protect
our kids, but why in theworld can't we let them get their ass
kicked once in a while and letthem learn the hard way like some people
did and some people still do.And it's not old versus new. It's
just the game's change and evolved andin some cases for the better. Concussions

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and sports and football for the better. So we always like to overuse the
word soft or man that guy he'sa wuss or what have you. I
just am. I'm sitting here thinkingthat when did we get to the point
that we're that five innings is justgreat pitching? Now you may be throwing
one hit ball for five innings,then why aren't you pitching the sixth?
Well? As specialization doesn't have tobe you keep that. That's the answer

(59:49):
I get. But why so?Why is it that we have more injuries
now, less innings pitched, moreopportunities from computers and study and dynamics and
body mechanics and get in hyper barrackchambers and more trainers and more opportunities to
heal quicker with more training techniques andall these things. Why is it that

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we have all this stuff? Wepitch less, we make more, we
expect less, and we're mad atthe guys that used to go, oh,
Bob Gibson wouldn't be successful. NowBob Gibson would kick their ass now
twice and twice on Sunday. Matterof fact, he'd be better now.
Why because he and we throw lessstrikes, we expect more walks, and

(01:00:32):
we're hurt more. Yet, whenthey didn't train as much and they didn't
have all these that had a trainerand they had the team doctor. Why
are we injured more and less?Why did a guy David Wells, why
could you smoke a grit and drinka beer and be better? Are you
mentally tougher? You got a higherthreshold of pain? But it's the expectations
too. Are we now plugged intoa time when literally, Brian, if

(01:00:52):
you go six innings and you pitchfour hipball and he threw eighty five pitches
and you're going good, we pullyou out because we got to get to
the seventh inning. Guy. Whydo we have to get to the seventh
inning? Guy? Analytics? Well, I almost said analytics, thank you
for that for saving me the FCC. But analytics are good. I think
we over analyze it, just likea good a guy who takes I think

(01:01:15):
at times for Bregman, all usingguy, I love his eye, maybe
as good as eyes are as inbaseball, right, we said that before,
But I think at times close pitchesthat he'd normally hammer. I think
at times he gets too cute becausehe's he's waiting for the perfect pitch,
and I think early on the strugglesand he knows the strike zone as well
as an umpire, but instead ofbeing aggressive, it makes I do I
believe that at times? Do youagree with me that some guys are a

(01:01:35):
little passive, Not that he's notaggressive, but you know the strike zone
so well, it takes away someof your aggressiveness because they don't throw it
right where you want it. Theycan't be a strike. So back to
the pitching. So why is it? Why is it we'll hurt more,
we last, we expect less,We last far, far longer, even
I'm talking about even going back fifteento Clemmens and Pedro Martinez. So if

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you're telling me that pitchers are moreel now, I don't believe that.
But they're more talented now with allthis access to great stuff? Have we
got too much stuff? Is it? Do we have such a plethora of
opportunities that we don't know how tofocus on the ones or twos that matter?
How is Pedro Martinez, who's onehundred and seventy pounds dripping wet,
able to get If Pedro Martinez gaveyou six innings, that wasn't never enough

(01:02:20):
for him or Greg Maddox or TomGlavin or John Smoltz or Roger Clements.
What's the difference. Why is theresuch a discrepancy in complete games? Well,
the specialization is better. So you'regonna tell me that Josh Haters better
than Trevor Hoffman. You look mein the face and tell me why you
believe that. You don't. Right, there's Ryan Presley better in his prime,

(01:02:44):
and I'm saying they're good, don'tmissen. I'm just comparing because we're
here in Houston. I don't care. Give me a closer a class A.
I don't care who you pick.Eraldis Chapman who can ramp it up?
There? Is he better than MarianoRivera? Betch and Marioanno Veda's re
Mariano Rivera's recent for the most part, right, so it's not old Bruce

(01:03:04):
Young. I'm just to understand wheredid this evolution get to the point we
usually evolved to better and more?Why have we evolved to less and not
as good? Why is it thatwe're okay with five innings? Well,
explain to me this, and thenwe turn around and bitch that the back
end of the bullpen's tired. Idon't understand it. Are people not afraid
of losing their job? If yourun the picture out there or the criticism.

(01:03:27):
Has Twitter and social media changed it? And where people are questioning that
we got some swinging Richard sitting inthe stands. We may love baseball and
know it, but is allowing ischanging your decisions because you don't want to
get booter have to read on Twitterthat the media or some fans don't like
you because they thought you should havepulled kept the picture in or pulled the
picture out when you didn't do it, so you didn't addhere to what us

(01:03:50):
fans think. I'd like to thinkthat Joe a spot and knows more than
me and you what's going on inthe dugout right, using him as an
example to stay local. So myI guess my craw is it's not old
versus all you old headzone. Oh, it's just like basketball or football.
I don't know. Am I supposedto expect my quarterback now to complete sixty
percent once in a while and thathe's supposed to be great now? Or

(01:04:15):
can you imagine pulling your quarterback outafter he played three quarters because you were
saving him not to get hurt andit was it was a it was a
one score game. Yeah, becausethe analytics showed that in the fourth quarter,
he should we pull him out.So so my point is it's not
to be a smartest. I don'tknow the answer. We have more more
opportunities to be great. Is itdo we have too much now? Is

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it like a kid with a videogame than when they had to go outside
and play they didn't have the videogame? Is it that our minds?
I don't get it. I'm tryingto listen to me. It's one of
the great questions. It's not answered, and I don't think there's one answer
for either side. And say thatto tell me that use somebody recent could
Smoltz pitching today's game, Oh yeah, how good at his best, probably

(01:04:58):
dominate sig. I want you tothink about this too. We've created.
Do you realize if you get twentywins nowadays, you're a unicorn? Oh
yeah, don't see that very often? So why is it that? And
is it because oh he got fiveand a third. Listen, I'm sorry
to tell you, whether it's thisbroadcast team, me and you anybody else.
You walk one, go five anda third. You're healthy. You

(01:05:21):
threw eight ninety pitches and the scoresthree to one. When you go out
of the game. You haven't pitcheda great game. You pitched the solid
game. But now if you sayseven and two thirds and that's your numbers,
now we're talking. Now we're talking. You had to cut out one
hundred and seven pitches. Well,we're worried about their arm. Why are
we worried about their arm if theyhaven't been hurt. They're younger, they're
stronger, they got more ability toget back on the field quicker with all

(01:05:45):
this training and all this money tiedinto it. Why did David Wells pitch
longer and better without going I'm usinghim as an example. I don't think
David Wells, who I love Wells, We need to get him on.
Maybe he can answer it for us, and he'd be great about it.
Why is it that he What wouldhe tell us? But why tell me
why we don't need to protect theseyoung athletes or old to say, well,

(01:06:08):
older, they didn't have they weren'tas fast and strong. You're gonna
tell me Mickey Mantle couldn't hit fivehundred homers in this day and age the
hell out of here. Just stopit. He hit ninety miles an hour
fastball into okay, so you know, save it So my point is,
why, Brian, what what dowe I mean? I know, if
we knew the answer, we bottledup it. So is it that we
have mentally created this is how you'resupposed to think where we've become robotic with

(01:06:32):
this. I always thought that themore knowledge you had and the more access
to great to health and healing andremedies, that we were supposed to get
more out of it. So whyis that? I don't know? Okay,
could Hunter Brown pitch when Bob wentMaddox and then pitched talent wise?

(01:06:55):
Yes, yeah, talent wise fourinnings, he would be in the minor
leagues. He wouldn't man, hewouldn't be his stuff says yes. But
I'm talking about the expectations. Now, turn around and tell me Maddox could
he pitch now? Yeah? Right, because he But maybe Maddox wouldn't be
the same if the expectations were placeddifferent on. I don't know how it's
raised, why we do it?Are we afraid of social media's opinion?

(01:07:16):
I just it frustrates me. I'mnot giving anybody here a worship after a
five inning game where they're they're upthree to one and they've got eighty pitches
and I'm not carrying them off onmy shoulders. I'm just not. Now
if he overcame three injuries, hiswife had a baby, he was asleep,
he came, he's two days off, he's back on after missing a
year and a half, and hegoes out there and gives me five and
two thirds and of two hit ball. Damn right, carry him on your

(01:07:40):
shoulder. Yeah, you get theperspective I'm talking about. Otherwise, with
all this, I thought we weresupposed to be better and expect more.
We expect less, go shorter andpraise him more. Why yeah, don't.
I don't know. Why? Whatwould Bob? What would Greg Maddox
be worth? Right now? WhatI mean? I talked to Eric Dickerson

(01:08:01):
a couple of days ago at theWarren's Tournament, and Edi and I were
talking and just laughing because he's great. What would you be worth now?
I asked him he was a runningback because we devalued the ego Sean,
probably not very much because they devalued, And I said, yeah, you're
right, but in our eyes,you know me, Eric, we're teammates
and as a quarterback we know devalue. What would it be worth if he
was getting treated with his game,what would he be worth? Now?

(01:08:26):
I should use any example, becauseI talked to him about it and he
smirked his smile. Well, hehad one guy who used to coach him
and stuff, said, you're twentymillion dollars running back. So it's not
even just the money, it's theexpectations. Why why are we supposed to
crawl ten miles over broken glass tocheer on? I mean cheer them on,
but even if we excited, Oh, he had a good performance,
he went five and a third?Did he But he's healthy and he's twenty

(01:08:49):
four. Explain that to me.I can't. That's my man. Now,
you know why it keeps me up? Yeah? I want to look
at the innings threshold per year forsome of these starting which was like pulled
up Garrett Cole, Clayton Kershaw,Charlie Morton, Justin Verlin or David Wells
and Greg Maddox, and I'm comparinghim to today's game. And do you
know why I always give you awealth of baseball knowledge, right, yeah,

(01:09:10):
useless baseball dolly, yes, Butwhen it comes to this, it's
not useless. It's not old verseyoung it's why then and why now?
Yeah, let's keep on discussing thisnext on Sports Talk seven eighty. This
is the Sean Salisbury Show. Andhis name is sure Sean. Really.
We're on Sports Talk seven ninety TravisKelcey. It's a contract extension, two

(01:09:32):
year deal with the Kansas City Chiefs. Seven one three two one two five
seven ninety the number to join.Talking about pitching in Major League Baseball,
Let's go to Bob. Bob goodmorning, Good morning guys. Hey,
great topic and it's one that Ilike to I follow closely. Sean,
you brought up a good point.I mean, I don't think there's ever
been a time when players have accessto therapeutic or analytical or whatever you want

(01:09:59):
to call it to improve their pitching. And the analogy I like to use
is that it's sort of like afinally tuned sports car versus an old,
reliable buick. I think they're sofinally tuned and little room for air,
and when something goes bad, you'rein the shop, I mean instantly,
and it's more expensive to fix,right oh hell yes, yeah, And

(01:10:25):
you know I And it's sort oflike the X. And also the expectations
is now when in the age ofspecialty, the expectation is the player and
the fans is five to six inningsand then bring the other guy in.
And I mean if you go backto I mean as late as the you
know, eighties nineties. Do youknow that I was looking at some stats.

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There were a couple of seasons inthere where JR. Richard he threw
like fifteen or twenty complete games ayear. You never see that anymore.
So, I think expectations and themechanics are taking up over a hard game
as fast as you can, andthere's just no Bobb, You're you're at

(01:11:08):
the end. You see, Iheard the last thing we heard is it
finally tuned mechanics and throwing it asfast as you can. You're there still
Okay, that's better. Yeah,you're right. But I think about you.
You're so right. The expectations maybeat the top of this list,
Bob, because think about it,we have it starts to get into my
head too, probably yours. It. I'm starting to look around thinking,

(01:11:29):
oh, gave us five and twothirds, What a good performance. And
it may have been good for fiveand two thirds, Yet I even go
back to Randy Johnson, I'm talkingabout guys that are still recent in our
minds. Five and two thirds.For Randy Johnson, he'd have been breaking,
you know, breaking gatorade things lookin the clubhouse and that's my boy.
But my point is is that ourexpectations that will ran and rave over

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Man. He only scattered five hitsand didn't walk one and and gave up
one solo home run. They're upfour to one. He threw eighty five
pitches. Hell of a performance.Yet when you're watching, when you really
step back and say, okay,that's nice, but we have lowered our
expectations in the bar so far,and nobody's going to tell me. And
Bob, I think you agree withme that while they have all this specialization,

(01:12:12):
this finally tuned, is anybody gonnalook you in the face and tell
you Greg Maddox wasn't finally tuned exactly. See my point. So it goes
right back to the x mes.Go ahead. Yeah, he was a
smart that he didn't rely on strikeouts. He if it meant a ground ball,
place you do it. He's theDrew Brees of baseball. Throw it
accurate, on time and where youwant to locate it at any time you

(01:12:34):
can and you know what, youhit it finally tuned pitcher, not thrower.
And there is a huge difference,Bob, and I guess the frustration
for me is not listen, Idon't get in their wallet. But if
you give me five and two thirdsand win fifteen games, go fifteen and
eight, and you've pitched two hundredinnings, one hundred and seventy five innings,

(01:12:56):
that's a that's a five to tenmillion dollars pay raise. And it's
not about the money. But that'sour expat's how we think now. And
if you did that one when Riverawas pitching, or Clemens or Pedro or
Maddox, they would look at youand say, you got to give me
more, buddy, because this ain'tenough. So I just don't understand how
we got more but we get less. It's baffling to me, right,
it's baffling. Think about it thisway. The model that we used even

(01:13:20):
for the Astros this year is,oh, well we got to do is
go six innings. Then we're goingto bring in a bray you Presley and
hater, Hey we're gold and Bob, you know what with that's great point.
And guess what happens when we bringthose guys in. Oh, they're
tired. I need longer. Thenwe get five innings, and then we
complained that we didn't get seven becausewe don't want to wear the back end

(01:13:41):
of the bullpen out. So we'respeaking out of both sides of our mouth.
Bob, great point man, Thanksfor the call. I just so
the it is. Maybe it isour expectations. So a player comes in
thinking, throw hard, and sometimesI get strikes. Sometimes I would strikeouts,
kind of like the home run.You know, don't pitch the contact.
And I'm a thrower, and Igave you five and a third.

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I'm feeling great about it. SeeVerlander, Well, I know we expect.
Now we're at the stage as aforty year old or forty one.
Now I understand why five and athird or two thirds or six innings is
for him. It's different. Youasked Verlander when he went there, and
he insures her and those guys werepitching in Detroit. Do you think that
that Verlander came in thinking I giveyou five, I'm getting pay raise and

(01:14:26):
I'm the man. Hell no,But he's seen different eras. So he's
now and he's had to change hisapproach. I would imagine, like all
great players do you evolve? Butsuch a baffling topic to me or they
trying to find the answer of wegot all this, I would think would
be the opposite, all this trainingstuff and health and wellness and all that

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that I would expect my picture thatif you don't throw me one hundred pitches
and give me seven innings, youhave not had a good game. If
you're twenty five years old, sometimesyou got to grind through crap. Right
you're not having a good day,and you got to find a way to
win. But I just maybe itis as simple expectations. But I got
news for you. Who's the bestpitcher in baseball right now? So the

(01:15:13):
Strider when he's there or when doingde Gram's healthy win a perfect example of
the guy who gives you eleven startsand he's a hero right right now.
It's Tyler Glass. Okay, Glass, now, okay, do you do
you think do you do you thinkthat Tydler Glass now is going to look
you in the face that that thathe his expectations would have been different ten

(01:15:34):
years ago than they are now.Fifteen years ago. I would like to
hope. So yeah, but Ijust and maybe it is expectations. And
because like anything, if you puta ceiling, say I get the six,
I've had a great game, they'recarrying me off on my shoulders,
on their shoulders. So if youthink that, for instance, if you
set your goal to reach one hundredmillion in sales, you're probably either not

(01:15:58):
going to get to it or hityour ceiling hundred million. If you said
it at three hundred million, Iwould imagine you're going to break the million
ceiling and get going. I guessmaybe it is the way. And I
guess we're programmed to throw as hardas we can for five innings and that's
their nine, I guess, orthat's your eight. But you won't get
fifteen complete games among all the pitchersin baseball this year. You'll be shot.
You'll be If you get to twentycomplete games among all the pitchers in

(01:16:20):
baseball, starting pitchers in baseball,we will throw a party. I think.
I don't think we got there lastyear, did we. No.
I want you to think, likeI said, you're a unicorn if you
get the twenty wins, no matterhow you get there. Analytics may be
part of the problem, Brian,And because analytics have created different expectation.
Me look at wins leaders. Onepitcher won twenty games last year, Spencer

(01:16:46):
Strider, Zach Gallon won seventeen,Zach Eflin won sixteen, and there was
a couple others with sixteen. Andnow we've gotten to the point where it's
like, well in the wind doesn'tmatter. Yet. How many times does
a picture does it manage? Saywe want to leave him in the fifth
inning so he could qualify for thewin. Yet then when they get the

(01:17:08):
win, well, it's not aboutwins anymore. It's about whip right and
lower era and and walks to pitstrike because all those things, well,
it is about wins. How manythat's the object of the game. How
many pictures do you think hit thetwo hundred inning threshold last season? Less
than a dozen? Four? Ohwell, sorry, less than There were

(01:17:31):
four that hit that went over twohundred. There was one right at two
hundred, Chris Bassett through two hundredinnings, and then there were one,
two, three, four that wentover Logan Webb at two hundred and sixteen,
Zach Gallon at two hundred and ten, Garrett Cole at two hundred and
nine, and then Miles Micolas toone points. Okay, so why well,
why is that? Like thumbs up? That's awesome? Man. We

(01:17:54):
had pictures Garrett Cole. Garrett Coleoutside of one two, uh damn near
every single season he throws over twohundred innings. Clayton Kershaw on his career
has thrown over two hundred innings onetwo, three, four five times and
he's been the most dominant less timefive of sixteen years. So but my

(01:18:15):
point is, so when I've gotother statistics too here, why is that
all we're getting? What's the reasoningthat five innings is enough? Greg Maddox
averaged almost two hundred and thirty inningsevery single season in his career. There
was one season he he threw twohundred and sixty eight innings. Now you
can go do Nolan Ryan and BobGibson and those innings you're gonna get over

(01:18:36):
three hundred. That's what I wantto look at the innings threshold. Yeah,
because we've got to look at thatas well. It's just weird.
Do we think we have more tocombat injuries and we got more that you'd
think I got all this stuff.You should be able to last longer.
Expectations. Man, we have surelowered the bar when it comes to that.
Not that their talent's not good,No, the expectations have changed because

(01:18:58):
you can Bob Gibson was just aschiseled as any of it. And Bob
Gibson go hit your ten home runsanywhere too as a pitcher. It's crazy.
Let's look at the innings threshold forMajor League Baseball and pitching. That's
next. Who's who's showing? Misteryseternal judge? Who sits on high?
He's the finals say on all disputes. Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on

(01:19:18):
Sports Talk seven ninety The Very Show, Sean, Brian and Triple Let's get
back out to the phone lines.Talk to Aggie Doug. Aggie Doug,
what's happening? Hotti boys, howare we on? We're good man conversation.
Yeah. I love to talk aboutthis because I just love to watch
the evolution of baseball. I'm justa baseball geek and baseball nerd, and

(01:19:43):
it's just it's amazing how you gofrom the from the Nolan Ryans and J.
L. Richards and even the RandyJohnsons and the Kurt Shillings. You
know back in the day that thoseguys were I wouldn't really consider those guys
pictures. I think those guys werethrowers, but they didn't have the technology
of the spin rate. Hey,let mean one thing real quick, Aggie
Dougy. I didn't mean interrupted.I'm gonna give you your go, Doug.

(01:20:06):
But Randy Johnson, though, Imean I was with him at SC
You know that he could throw aball that would land halfway up the screen
at about one hundred and three milesan hour, right, and then he
went and then he went, andit was every over the course of his
career. What was he like,eleven to one strike out the walk ratio
or something like that. So hemay have started, he started, and

(01:20:27):
still give you a spotter at eightyfive or something and still spot it though,
that's what I'm saying. I say, and I know what you're saying.
Randy Johnson started out a thrower.Oh he became a pitcher. You
can't have that strike out the walkratio and not throw strikes, right,
So, uh, I know whatyou're saying. But I'm just giving my
guy more credit because while we can'tjust call the crafty guys like Maddox pitchers

(01:20:53):
hard throwers can be pictures too.Bob Gibson was a pitcher, and your
point, I mean, Mines lateron in his career did the same thing
with split Yep. Absolutely, Imean like he basically said, I can't
just blow it by anybody anymore.I gotta have some movement. Yeah,
go ahead, and my bed andI think that's what you're talking like that,

(01:21:14):
right, There was kind of thebeginning of trying to understand the spin
rate. Now they basically went throughthe air of we're going to use tiki
tac to make it spin even more. Now we've kind of dialed that back
where they can't use those substances,so they're trying to use what more natural
stuff, you know, to makethe ball spin. I mean, you've
seen the Major League movie. Imean talking about a snot ball and that

(01:21:36):
kind of stuff. Sou guys havealways tried to manipulate the ball in ways,
but I think now the spin rate, I think that's putting so much
more pressure in so much more torquefor lack of a better term, you
know what, Tiger messed up orjust always swung out of his ass and
then all of a sudden, youknow, basically had back problems. You're

(01:21:56):
like, yeah, no, wonderyou tried to hit the ball as hard
as you can every single time.That's gonna happen to you. Same situation
with these guys. They're trying tospin the ball so much. It's not
so much throwing so hard. Ifthey're trying spinning the ball so much.
Think about trying to throw a curveballninety miles an hour. Yeah, I
mean it's almost impossible. Yeah.Yet yet these high school guys you go

(01:22:17):
around in Texas and California and Florida, they're pumping it at ninety eight high
school and and so they're throwers.Yet these analytics are telling us we'll spin
rate and let's be better pictures,so we get movements so you don't have
to throw it as hard if yougot movement, which is obvious, but
you got to throw it for strike. You see, you see the not
the hypocrisy, but you see theway it's like it's conflictory to the two,

(01:22:39):
not you, but the way wethink. I mean, we want
both. Yet it's crazy, andyet we should be able to get them
on the field quicker. Keep themen longer, because man, they should
be able to We got plunge poolsand and we don't just put ice on
it and rub dirt on it anymore. It's just weird to me, and
our expectations have lowered on what weexpect greatness to be. I believe that.
As a little I was always toldthat you're not allowed to throw a

(01:23:02):
curveball until you're at least twelve yearsold. It was a rule in little
league. Yeah, or for yourcoach, yeah, agreed. Yeah,
the coaches would get mad at youif you were trying to, like,
because we would always screw around andtry to play, you know, throw
a screwball or and our coaches wouldcome and jump on our house and I
don't do that crap. It'll messup your arm. So now I think

(01:23:23):
it's just that kids are just doingit more, you know, earlier obviously,
and it's putting more pressure on thatwhatever, you know, whatever is
inside your elbow, you know,the owner all that stuff. So yeah,
so I think it's just a situationwhere their arms are just being stressed
at an earlier age and before theycan mature a little bit more, and

(01:23:46):
especially in the Latin leagues, dude. I mean, they have those kids
going curveballs like eight nine years old. Man, they're just trying to I
mean, and I you respect thatbecause they're just trying to get here.
But I mean, but it's justa situation where where the I mean,
these guys are throwing and they're torquingtheir arms at such a young age.
I think it's really messing them up. And I think that's kind of what
we're seeing like a you know,a culmination. So should we is that

(01:24:10):
fall now on young I mean oncoaches to expect more and teach better so
when they get oh, you justgo back to chunk and the ball man.
Yeah, you got to go backto say, you know what,
I'm gonna try to blow by youevery single time when I'm twelve years old
and then and then we'll worry aboutit at all. Yeah, win out,
ramp it up, and then we'llfix you later. Yeah, I
got you, brother. That also, but that also separates the men from

(01:24:33):
the boys too. I mean,Roger Kuman is, Randy Johnson, those
guys they had a special talent.They had the ability to throw the ball
one hundred and five miles an hour. There's not too many people out there
that can do that. Now youcan also Now I can teach anybody to
throw a curveball, you know,and and and do that type of thing.
You just got to have a fingerplacement and the way you push the
ball out. So it so it'sjust a situation where I feel that that

(01:24:59):
the over tour working and the overspin rate, and I think that's kind
of led to a lot of stuffbecause it's really been going on for a
while in the little leagues and inhigh school and the stress on that.
So I feel like that that haskind of led to the arm breakdown.
And that's why we're so sensitive aboutour pictures, like, oh my god,
if this guy pitches one hundred andseventy five hintings, that's that's the

(01:25:20):
top of the line, and that'sthe that's the top of the bar as
opposed to the low bar. Greatpoint, Doug, Thanks man, Great
point. Hard You see where yousee and we're sitting here going through a
conversation, See how the constant conflictsbring you right back into the middle of
it saying how do you how dowe get more and not expect less?

(01:25:42):
I think you guys in that discussion, right there brought up a point where
it starts, and it starts inyouth baseball, and I'm surrounded by that
and I see that week in andweek out. That's where it starts.
And you asked about coaching, Shouldwe coach better? Smarter? Maybe?
Yeah? Yeah, I think that'swhere when we get into the eight o'clock
hour next segment, that's where thingsneed to change. Is coaching, hitting

(01:26:10):
coaches, pitching coaches, football coaches, basketball coaches. If I asked you
instruckers things like that, well,I train quarterbacks, you train. We
watch other people that train that aregood at If I said one thousand trainers
in both of our business, howmany of them are doing give me a
percentage of how many do it?Right? A thousand? Yeah? Fifty

(01:26:35):
for me? It's so are youtalking about a lower third? YEA third
of them? Yeah, that's aproblem. Yeah, they're all making money.
They are. That's the problems wherewhen you get a bad habit,
not just the injury scare. Theproblem is, I said earlier in the
six o'clock if you get a badhabit, do you know how hard it
is to get a young player outof a bad habit and take them back

(01:26:59):
to normal. Thennis Head starts toplay games and tricks on him. Yeah,
we almost got to get to Ialmost want to put together classes and
teach like coach the coaches like inpop Worner. Well, the dads are
volunteering and they're working a full timejob, and moms are too, and
then they get hey, yeah,I'm gonna rush home and help my son.
Not saying they don't know sports,but they may not be able to
teach it, right, you knowwhat I'm saying. We got them out

(01:27:21):
there because we need bodies. Thesekids deserve have parents out there, and
parents want to be involved. Andthen you start teaching it. Before you
know it, three years are thesame. You're like, because that's not
their priority, and then the kidnow is locked into something else. And
then you get and that's happened tome. I got kids, you know,
kids that are really good players,Brian, and then all of a
sudden, I'll have a college RECRUITIsay, Sean, and I'm talking about

(01:27:42):
guys. You'll know who they are. Say what about a throwing motion?
Bit about his feet? Well,you know so, and so we're grinding
on it. I'm trying to fixthe last three years of a dad who
met well but didn't know how toteach it, And now I got to
take double time. We can't workon the throwing and catching of a regular
football because I'm too busy grinding ongetting his feet in the right position or

(01:28:04):
arm action, or how to finishand follow through. And I'm like,
oh my gosh. And yet thatalso aside from a dad, we got
some young coaches that are really good, But we also have some that need
to sit in the stands and cheerthe kids on and don't coach them.
Yeah, just just don't coach them. Play catch with him and keep your
mouth closed and do get them,give them every opportunity to be successful,

(01:28:27):
and turn them over to somebody whomay teach them right with people come to
me in the seventh grade. Ihad a kid call me yesterday, I
mean a recomend. I'm gonna starttraining him. He's an eighth grader and
he's gonna be, say, seventhgrade's going to be an eighth grader,
And I'm going to tell you rightnow, and he's gifted. You want
to save it for eight o'clock,Yeah, I was. I was just
going to say gifted, but Forme, it's teach him young so they
know how to do it better,but teach them right, make it fun

(01:28:48):
and build their self esteem. We'llcontinue this discussion seven three seven ninety.
Gary Corey will also get to you, guys as we continue to roll on
on Sports Talk seven eighty. Men'sTA Clinic Guys, we're talking about getting
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pitching in Major League Baseball and whyhave we seen changes to where pitchers barely
get through five innings, can barelyget to six or seven? Talking about
spin Ray talking about youth baseball sevenone three two one two five seven ninety.
Let's hear from you, the baseballfan. Gary, you're up first,
Good morning, Good morning, gentlemen. You know, I think it's

(01:31:51):
really sort of a two part answerto your question, and the first part
is driven by the second part.First part is it the owners have done
this to themselves with the salaries nowadays, and I'm not begrudging anybody to make
a fine living but salaries had justgotten completely out of hand in my opinion.

(01:32:11):
But the second part that drives thatwas something that actually Nolan Ryan answered
a number of years ago at luncheonthat I was attending, when he was
taking some Q and A as somebodyasked him, Nolan, are there any
of your records that you believe won'tbe broken? I's wet of surprised by
his first answer. He said thathe really believed that it's no hit record
would be broken, and at thatpoint in time, there's nobody in baseball

(01:32:34):
more than to no hitters, andno one had seven. But his second
question really drive or his second answerreally drives to the point. He said
that he never he believed nobody wouldever break his strikeout record. And he
followed that up I said, don'tget me wrong. He said, there's
plenty of people out there that havethe talent to do them, but in

(01:32:54):
today's age of specialization and what they'rehaving to pay these pictures, there's nobody
out there that's going to allow themto mass the number of innings that it
would take to do so. Soconsequently you get to where they're just pitching
five or six innings and then they'regoing to the bullpen and you don't know

(01:33:15):
it. Back in his day,ten eleven, twelve, thirteen plus innings
was nothing. And you know youhave somebody like that or several pitchers like
that on your team, you're havingto pay less for the bullpen too.
So to me, I think that'sthat's the answer that drives all of that.
Appreciate the call, Gary, Gary, Gary's right on, and here's

(01:33:38):
why it'll never be touched. AndGary hit it perfect. Gary great point
is you're not gonna get you can'tbreak a strikeout record, pitch the six
innings. Yeah, and he's alsoright about the contracts. It's no freaking
question. I mean some of themoney that these dudes are making again,
like I'm all about like go getyour bag right, but man, some

(01:33:59):
like and I'm gonna use I'm gonnause Rafael Montero seventy almost seventeen eighteen million
dollars for a relief pitcher. AndI'm never gonna hate anybody for getting theirs.
No, this isn't about money theteam. Yeah, for me,
it's a good thay. Listen,if you can milk twelve years out of
pitching instead of the eight you wouldhave got by throwing more in this day

(01:34:20):
era, then they're gonna do it. But and I know this, I
don't think Roger Clemens went out therethinking money. That's another difference. I
think Roger Clemens went out there.I don't think Tiger Woods played golf to
make a four foot play. Themoney all matters. But I think Tiger
Woods thought, let me put myfoot on your throat and the money will
come. Yeah, we got guyslike that. Now you think Kobe Bryant

(01:34:41):
went out there and said, money'smy first priority when the ball was hipped
off, Now, kicking your asswas well looking at it. I don't
think Brady played for it like that. I don't think Mahomes, he took
a pay cut every year to Idon't think Mahomes is playing for it.
No, listen, you get aprofession. Everybody wants to get paid maxed
out. I get it. ButI don't think when they take the field
in there, when they're going outthere, and I don't think most guys
do. When you toe the rubber, I don't think you're thinking, if

(01:35:02):
I throw six innings today, mynew contract. But I do think in
the back of your mind when yougo home, you're thinking, man,
I'm in an option year. It'dbe nicer in a free agent year.
I'd like to get paid. Sothe strikeout record can never get touched.
You ain't pitching. You'd have togo thirty years at about five innings a
night to get that. That didn'thappen, and we'll get it will not
get sniffed. Let's keep this discussiongoing. Seven one three seven einety Corey,

(01:35:28):
good morning, Good morning, guys. Look I have two quick points.
First one, the ball itself whenyou go from little league to high
school to college, and Brian,you can bounce for that. The ball
itself changes you go from a ballmen's ta clinic. Guys, we're talking
about getting yourself right and injuries andhealth and expectations on the show today.

(01:35:53):
What are your expectations your own self? If you're fifty percent of what you
were in twenty twenty three because you'reenergetic, you got into a funk,
or twenty twenty two, you're goingright. In twenty twenty three, you
let it slip and now your backsay I'm about fifty percent of where I
want to be. That's on you. What are you waiting on at fifty
percent of you man when there couldbe one hundred percent of it and going
and grinding and laughing and having funand sexual wellness. Men's Tea Clinic can

(01:36:15):
help five convenient locations, draw alittle blood, non invasive, let's find
out if it's low testosterone. Theproblem is with the communication. We're like,
I don't know what's wrong, butI probably could fix it. Well,
if you need some more energy andyou want to get mama happy at
home, and you want to behappy, and it's not just sexual in
those full body wellness from head totoe, why would you settle for fifty
percent or low testosterone to keep youin your funk? Then it becomes a

(01:36:41):
snowball effect. Everything starts to sufferin your life. And the opposite is
true. When you're hitting the groundrunning, you're energetic, your testosterones normal,
Mom is happy, you're happy,waking up, ready to go,
you go dominate. So if you'reexpecting fifty percent, Men's Tea Clinic is
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(01:37:29):
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Salisbury, ol Salbury, Houston.Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury,

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(01:38:15):
about pitching in Major League Baseball andwhy have we seen changes to where pitchers
barely get through five innings, canbarely get to six or seven? Talking
about spin rate, talking about youthbaseball seven one three two one two five,
seven ninety. Let's hear from you, the baseball fan. Gary.
You're up first, Good morning,Good morning gentlemen. You know, I

(01:38:39):
think it's really sort of a twopart answer to your question, and the
first part is driven by the secondpart. The first part is that the
owners have done this to themselves withthe salaries nowadays. And I'm not begrudging
anybody and make a fine living,but salaries have just gotten completely out of
hand, in my opinion. Butthe second part that drives that was something

(01:39:01):
that actually Nolan Ryan answered a numberof years ago at a luncheon that I
was attending when he was taking someQ and A and somebody asked him,
Nolan, are there any of yourrecords that you believe won't be broken?
And I's st of surprised by hisfirst answer. He said that he really
believed that his no hit record wouldbe broken, and at that point in
time, there's nobody in baseball moreto no hitters, and no one had

(01:39:24):
seven. But his second question reallydrive or his second answer really drives to
the point. He said that henever he believed nobody would ever break his
strikeout record. And he followed thatup, I said, don't get me
wrong. He said, there's plentypeople out there that have the talent to
do it, but in today's ageof specialization and what they're having to pay

(01:39:45):
these pictures, there's nobody out therethat's going to allow them to mask the
number of innings that it would taketo do so. So quite consequently,
you get to where they're just pitchingfive or six innings and then they're going
to the bullpen, and you don'tknow it. Back in his day,
ten eleven, twelve, thirteen plusinnings was nothing. And you know you

(01:40:09):
have somebody like that or several pictureslike that on your team, you're having
to pay less for the bullpen too. So to me, I think that's
that's the answer that drives all ofthat. Appreciate the call, Gary,
Gary, Gary's right on, andhere's why it'll never be touched. And
Gary hit it perfect. Gary greatpoint is you're not gonna get you can't

(01:40:32):
break a strikeout record, pitch thesix innings. Yeah, he's also right
about the contracts, no freaking question. I mean some of the money that
these dudes are making. Again,like I'm all about like go get your
bag right, but man, somelike and I'm gonna use I'm gonna use
Rafael Montero seventeenmost seventeen eighteen million dollarsfor a relief pitcher. And I'm never

(01:40:56):
gonna hate anybody forgetting theirs. No, not all isn't about money the team.
Yeah, for me, it's agood day. Listen. If you
can milk twelve years out of pitchinginstead of the eight you would have got
by throwing more in this day era, then they're gonna do it. But
and I know this, I don'tthink Roger Clemens went out there thinking money.
That's another difference. I think RogerClemens went out there. I don't

(01:41:16):
think Tiger Woods played golf to makea four foot put. The money all
matters. But I think Tiger Woodsthought, let me put my foot on
your throat and the money will come. Yeah, we got guys like that.
Now you think Kobe Bryant went outthere and said, money's my first
priority when the ball was hipped off, now kicking your ass was, well,
look at it. I don't thinkBrady played for it like that.
I don't think he took a paycut every year to I don't think Mahomes

(01:41:39):
is playing for it now. Listen, you get a profession. Everybody wants
to get paid maxed out. Iget it, but I don't think when
they take the field in there,when they're going out there, and I
don't think most guys do. Whenyou tow the rubber. I don't think
you're thinking if I throw a sixinnings today, my new contract. But
I do think in the back ofyour mind when you go home, you're
thinking, man, I'm in anoption year. It'd be nicer in a
free agent year. I'd like toget paid. So the strike at record

(01:42:00):
can never get touched. You ain'tpitching. You don't have to go thirty
years at about five innings a nightto get that that didn't happen. And
we'll get they will not get sniffed. Let's keep this discussion going. Seven
seven Hinty Corey, good morning,Good morning guys. Look, I have
two quick points. First one,the ball itself when you go from little

(01:42:25):
league to high school to college andBrian, you can vouncher that the ball
itself changes. You go from aball that has themes that feel like when
you grip it, that feel likethey're a quarter inch high, to by
the time you get to the prosthat they're almost flat with the ball,
so they are having to impair thathigher spin rate on it just to get

(01:42:46):
it to move the same way theydid when they were in high school.
So it's putting a lot more pressureon them. Man. I think that's
where a lot of the overused andinjuries is coming in at. And the
second thing is somebody had said itearlier about their have always tried to get
an advantage, you know, bydoing stuff to the ball, whether it's
a not ball, as leading ball, spitball, whatever. But for me,

(01:43:09):
that what I've noticed is a longtime baseball watcher, is that in
the eighties, and I think itwas in the early early nineties, is
when they instituted a rule that ifthe ball touched the ground, they had
to take it out of play.Back in the eighties, they would hit
a ball, it would get hitto the short stop, they'd throw it
over and they put it right backin play, and it would have scuffs

(01:43:30):
on it and stuff like that,and pictures back then would use those scuffs
to their advantage. So you know, they've tried taking that element out of
the game, and that goes handin hand with the spin rate and everything
else. So I'm I'm hang upand listening. Great job, guys,
Thank you Corey, appreciate the call. Yeah, when you when you go,
when you get higher, the levelof baseball, those baseballs changed dramatically.

(01:43:55):
Yeah you have you have Bay Likelike Corey said that, the baseball's
in high school at the scenes high. You get into college lower, and
then you get into Pro Bowl,affiliated ball or even independent baseball. You'd
rub those highest teams used to bugthe hell out of me. Yeah.
And then also in even spend theydid you know you went, you almost
wanted it flatter to the base flat. The flatter, the better well grip

(01:44:17):
wise, especially a young kid.Yeah. You but they get the big
the laces. I feel like they'rethree inches off the ball, which they're
not. And then also from whatI remember is when you coach in or
you know, when these select baseballteams go to like these big perfect game
tournaments, like in Jupiter, Florida, you got uh Fort Myers, You've
got uh the Hoover, Alabama,You've got the Atlanta, Georgia for the

(01:44:43):
Marriotta Tournament, like all those big, big showcase tournaments. The baseballs they
try to they give you lower seambaseball because they're trying to prepare you for
the next level. Sure, andyou're gonna be performing in front of hundreds
of scouts. So high school kidsget get get involved with those type of
baseball is real quick during the summer. And remember in high school, they
don't want to spend a lot ofmoney on baseballs. Man, so it's

(01:45:05):
just crazy. Oh well we gotto save them save yeah. Yeah,
Well it's like baseball. You spendso much money on tournaments and yet the
umpires after like two innings, like, does anybody have any baseballs? Yeah?
How what do you mean? Then? Tournament director? You know,
the tournament director that the tournament peoplethat put it on are going to make
a one hundred and fifty grand thisweek in minimum right one age group.

(01:45:28):
And we got to ask, say, who's got an extra baseball in their
dug out? Well we did thatin high school. Anybody got an extra
one? You know, a fewfoul balls, somebody homers, like where
is that ball? Didn'tbody get thathome run? Ball? Got to chase
it down the street with the ballstout off because you got eight of them
for a game. Well it Well, the best part about like growing up
playing little league. Was when foulballs went up. That foul ball was
coming back because if you got thatfoul ball, you got yourself free snow

(01:45:50):
cone and yes, and you knowwhat else, they'd wait for you to
throw it back into play, yes, before the next pitch. Yeah,
but you had little kids flying ballhockey. Oh yeah, to go get
that base standards to the umpire.Boom, there's your freaking I'm sure for
you and I. They weren't gettingfoul balls. They were chasing him beyond
the left field, centerfield and rightfieldSAPs, you know exactly. Yeah,
yeah, take measure jobs, dogdid I was looking at a well week

(01:46:14):
come back. Yeah. I waslooking at a picture, well, real
quick game Wrigleyfield when the wind wasblown out year ago. Dave Kingman,
Dave cong Kingman. They show apicture, a top picture where the ball
landed past Waveland Avenue, over thosebleachers in the back. It was four
or five houses deep the picture.I'll try to find it it was.

(01:46:35):
It was one of those where it'slike well, obviously in the twenty three,
twenty two game, winds blown out, But again he was a streaky
player. He hit it, Hehit it a country mile. It was
four houses deep past Waveland Avenue intoa neighbor on top of the person's house,
four rows deep in a in ain a on a street. Wow.
I think the wind was blown outand Wrigley that day saw that picture.
Yesterday was final long drop. Youknow, Dave cong Kingman, where

(01:46:58):
do you go to school? Uh? Sorow State us A just figured out
he'd fit perfect in this game.Hit it a long way and strike out
two hundred and fifty times there,Chris Carter. Uh, he might even
been the two hundred if you struckout one hundred and fifty times. He
had a great year. You knowwhere we're in for today. A lot
of good stuff astros wise, dude, they're going to have to make a

(01:47:18):
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of the Stros in the NBA playoffsseven one three two one two five seven
ninety the number to join biscuit.Thanks for holding man. Good morning,
Hey, top of the morning toyou my brothers. Sean, it's a
day of morning, the day mybrother. Yeah, but one we expected,
my man. Yeah, we expectedto shine, but man, not

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quite this way. I agree.That's what I said. I didn't expect
to sweep, but I sure asI sure as hell expected it to be
closer. But it was total dominance, my man. But what I'm saying
is, Sean, we we've wonmajority of every game. It is the
little let me. I may askyou this question, Sean. And I'm
not normally a guy that goes tothe coach, but is there a coach

(01:49:59):
in the playoffs that you would takehamp What I'm getting to it I'm not
taking Darvin Hamm or any other coachin the playoffs. That's that's what you're
asking me. The answer is,well, I've already thought about that.
You're right, he doesn't maximize thebuilding. You're correct. It's like,
man, you look at Yeah,it's just look incredible. I think if

(01:50:24):
the Lakers look back on it,and I don't know, I can't you
know, I'm trying to recall highwent down, but the fact that they
didn't get Ty Lue it's gonna bethe reason why we didn't get a couple
more times. Yep. And nowthe clock's running out on this thing,
too, right, yep. Yealast night, old man. He always

(01:50:46):
does. I mean, I've neverworried about him when it comes to this,
you know, putting it on theline when it comes to you know,
he'll win some and lose some.But I know he's going to show
up, That's for damn sure.And it bothers me, bisky. You
talk about time out, the lackof either interest in the huddle or adjustments,
and some of the things that wenton in this series are coaching related.
And you know, well, wesaw how important coaching is in this

(01:51:09):
series. Out coached, which ledout played. And you know you had
to coach your ass off when you'vegot a team that's a better team.
Now, there's some talent on theLakers, but I don't think they got
the most out of their talent fromhim. And you're right, at least
they would have been in position,a better position to have a chance to
win one. And I don't liketo you know, I know how hard

(01:51:29):
it is to coach. We alldo, but I just know this that
Darvin Ham was just a guy,not that guy. Does that make sense?
Yeah, And it seems like toomany times during a game you see
the players on the Lakers looking overthe bends, like what are we doing?
And he may even have the strategytogether, but there's no buy in,

(01:51:49):
right, And if you don't havebuy in, you have nothing.
Man and his rotations were all youknow. It's just so frustrated because the
clock is running out. Like yousay, at some point, I know
that lebroni playing, but at somepoint the man is going to have to
fall off. Some point it isfall off. May still be better than

(01:52:13):
seventy percent or seventy five percent ofthe cats in the league, but at
some point, it's coming to aclose. You know what it looks like,
bisky, you hit a great point. You know when you're watching a
little league pitcher, and or evenin a basketball game with like you know,
an eighth grade league on a Saturday, and the kids, the kid
up and down the court. Inbetween or in a slow part, they
look over at the coach, orone kid's looking at his dad in the

(01:52:35):
stands or somebody in the stands afterevery pitch, like looking for either validation
or help me or what do Ido? That's what a bunch of grown
men look like looking over there.What you got for us? Man?
Is this really what we're doing?They're the confusion of grown ass men.
Has got to be the grown assman on the bench fixing that. And

(01:52:55):
we know some coaches that wouldn't havelet that happen. It said, no
disrespect to Darvin Ham as a human, but maybe in over his head in
this situation, brother, he maylast thing I would say, Sean,
going forward, if the Nuggets playlike they did against the Lakers, they
gonna get beat by the Timberwolves.Timberwolves scared off the hook. The Lakers

(01:53:17):
led him off the hook. TheTimberwolves concern me. I just was telling
Brian before the show, we weretalking about it and and maybe even the
first segment, and I said,they've got that guy who can take over
a game or two. Anthony.He's a He's a friggin freak, right
that that dude, Hey, dude, he is. I was saying,
he reminds me of early on ofwhat we saw and we'll get back John

(01:53:39):
Morant's skill set and he'll attack therim. He'll knock down jumpers. He's
fearless man. And the Minnesota Minnesotais a dangerous team in the Western Conference.
They are frigging scary. I amwith you. I think Minnesota has
a chance man to to go allthe way shine And like you say,
Edwards, he has that mamba mentality. It's it's almost like Kobe sent down

(01:54:02):
from the soul above. Tobe sentdown and saying, go give him some
of what I give him, myman, And he put it this way.
The talent and the ability and thework and the grind they all come
together. Yeah, that's that's exactlyright. Man. If he's if he's
attacking the rim, and you decideyou want to try to defend it,
you're in for a fistfight at thetop of that. He usually wins that

(01:54:24):
one. It's it's crazy. Yeah, I'm with you. He is his
skilled, a young player as thereis in this league. I firmly believe
that. And they are dangerous inthe postseason. And if they're sitting in
the NBA Finals, not a soulshould be surprised completely. And it's now
Sean, as Laker fan, youjust got a root against the seas Man.
Don't let them get That's as muchas I respect and love their game.

(01:54:46):
Yeah, that that green needs tostay away from a Laker champions of
those banners hanging from the rafters.I'm with you whether we can or know
whether they could prevent it or not, and that he still be a battle
too, Biscuit. Great stuff,man. We knew it was coming,
but still day of morning for theLakers because I don't know what they're getting
back. Appreciate your thank you.I just uh, I got some some
audio here of Robert Ford actually commentingin what he had to say about the

(01:55:11):
Lakers losing. Really one more time, triply, I suppose you're gonna get
one that says you can kiss itgoodbye. No so you're the guy when
he stands on a table and poursalt in the wound. Why would I
stand on a table just to makeit a little louder? And then maybe

(01:55:31):
guy's got a st s not you. But you know, I mean,
I know you're into that. We'llexplain to me what that's like. Triply
I'm talking to you. We explainto me what that's like. Taking a
tea bag. You were so firmand you're you were so convicted in who
I'm saying, Hey, a teabag, like you know what it means
and know what it means. Ofcourse you do when you're staring down at

(01:55:53):
it or up at it. Yes, So if you're staring down at it,
you're you're, you're, you're.That's a good place to be,
right. If you're staring up atit, you're you're, you're. You
don't want to be at that partof it? Yeah, yeah, you
get that brook Trout look. Yeah, don't. You don't want the brook
Trout look makes it too easy ofaccess. You don't want that. Did

(01:56:14):
you really want to kick a ribcage when the ribstre did you? Did
you really want to do that?I didn't have any expectation Lakers win it
at all, I expect. Youtold me that they were gonna they were
going to roll through Denver. Theywere going to struggle against Minnesota, but
they were going to get back tothe finals and Lebron was going to win
it again. And he's better thanMichael Jordan. That's what you heard,
did I? I could have swornthat. Yeah, tripley are you?

(01:56:40):
That's probably not a side? Doyou want to choose right now? Overnights
are looking for a guy to fillin? You know what's the crazy is
that? Remember we all said Lakers, be careful what you wish for after
you when that first you know theplay in and it's like, well they
got it, but you know whatthey they didn't Well they showed up,

(01:57:02):
but you know what they didn't do? Hey, is it? What do
you say? It was show upand do it, it didn't show out.
Is there a coach that Lebron Jameshas had that he has not yelled
at? Did you see him,excuse me, screaming at Darvinham the other
night, like literally jumping up anddown. Yeah, I would say,
has he had a coach he hasn'tscreamed at the one in uh from Miami

(01:57:23):
early on, maybe, but Spolsterstarted to gain so much respecting with pat
Riley overseeing it. Remember when Spolstercame in, he was just supposed to
be a guy. Yeah, andthen he's become a friggin' hella in the
playoffs. Say if that's a hellof a basketball coach. And Riley believed
in him and hired him and kepthim there because he saw because pat Riley,
pat Riley's a great talent and coachevaluator. I think the presence of

(01:57:45):
Riley and the emergence of Spolstra,if there was those times, it wasn't
emphatic like it's been with most ofthe other coaches. And obviously Lebron's respect
with Tyrone Leu along the way hasbeen something he's like too. For Lebron,
it felt like you had to haverespect there that he wanted it earned

(01:58:05):
before he got there, as opposedto you earning it on his watch.
Whether that's right or wrong. Butuh, yeah, he'll draft well,
that just throws his disdain And ifLebron wants Darvin Ham out, guess what,
by bye, see you later,he'll be doing something else or coaching
somewhere else. I'm keeping a closeeye on that one. But where they
go. And no, I hadno delusions the Lasers were Lakers were beating

(01:58:29):
the Nuggets. But I'll tell youwhat. The rest of the Western Conference
role now here is tune in becauseit's going to be really nice to watch
some of his skill. It's gonnabe a blast. Brian James is getting
drafted. What what did you justsay? Brian James is probably gonna get
drafted. So I means Lebron's goingto go wherever he goes Bronni James,
Well, he's hanging around to hopefullyplay against her with his kid. Yeah,

(01:58:51):
I think they. I think theLakers they said they might pick him
up this June if Lebron wants IfLebron wants him, they may even overdraft
him. Here's what I do know. Guess what, Lebron's never gonna be
Lebron. No, Okay, that'snot happening. Yeah, that's a report.

(01:59:11):
I think there's a very open tohelp. You know, let's get
no, I think there's a nobrainer. If it doesn't get drafted in
the first round, which is nota first round pick. Hope he doesn't
get drafted second round, just signhim as a free ad. That's what
they'll do. Of course, theywant to play together and Lebron. Lebron
doesn't need to prove anything else.He wants to play with the Sun and
I can't blame him for that.Yeah, let's get to break continue this
on the Sean Salisbury Show, theHouston Sports World. Yeah, Sean Salisbury

(01:59:39):
knows how to play the game becausehe really played the game. Yep,
former prol QB right here. Heactually has it on his name tag former
pro qt right here. Back toSean on Sports Talk seven ninetyllus, I
know you do that when you whenyou imitate. Yeah, that's why.

(02:00:01):
That's why you do it. Togive Joey gonna step in. This is
major league debut for low Berffido.Then you go Lopal you gotta get so.
So that's what we on our podcastyesterday we were talking about what the
nickname should be. Word on thestreet. A lot of people are calling
him j lot, people call themlopes. How about Joey Ropes, Joey

(02:00:25):
Ropes, Joey cooks Joey. Butwhat about just Lopo or just low Berfito.
You want to call them loco.Yeah, I'm going but I hear
Lopo and I hear LiPo, likewhat Lizo needs? Well, why in
the world would what why are youfat? Sam? I'm not it's with
a p. How did you getlipot of Lopo? Think about it?

(02:00:48):
No, I am thinking about it. There's no I in o. There
is one in t I. There'snot one. There's no there's no iron
me or hey Lopo. Uh yeah, we've been trying to get it because
somebody's gonna come up with the nickname. But you do. You're right.
When you imitate the voice, it'sthat's that's a that's a good thing.

(02:01:10):
We all need our voice imitated.So we're going with j Lo. We
got to do that as No,I'm not going with the there's already one
taken. What don't we didn't namehim the king like we do the other
guys. In ways that I've seenthem talk the Astro Twitter talk about,
you would think Babe Ruth is gettingcalled up. Haven't been pining for Joey
Loperfiedo to get caught up for likethree weeks now. But let's come a

(02:01:30):
couple like, come on, let'stemper our expectations a little bit tread a
little more lightly. Yeah, let'scall him George Herman, might as well
George Herman Lowperfino. My goodness,there you go, Loo, You're gonna
go with Lopo. That's I've beensaying it since since his name was brought
up. You know, we weretalking about the Lakers and stuff. I

(02:01:51):
knew Roger is gonna want to callhim. He's probably gonna bring up what
do you want to talk about,Roger? Jalen Green? Who the Rockets
are drafted? Victor Webbin Yama?Like? Who we got? Why are
you so? Are you? Roger? Don't take don't take that from him?
On Roger, I'm gonna put youback on hold. You sound like
a robot. Hang on, Roger, hang on just real quick. Let's

(02:02:12):
try that again. Roger, youthere, Roger m put him back on
hold. Triple can you uh yeah? See if he's there, he's sounded
like a robot. Let's get toJohn. I want to talk about playoffs
in the NBA. John, goodmorning. It was going on fans and
Nika and look at the teams aslost, Look at the teams as lost.

(02:02:35):
Golden State with out the pitcher,they're older. See the Lakers out
they older. Look at the teamsthat won Oklahoma City Sweet young average days
twenty three. Look at Timberwoods sweepaverage age twenty five. They got They
both got young stars. Hey,when Maggie John left and went to the

(02:02:56):
Wizzards, he still hit a fewpunts, but he couldn't leave no more.
That's why they never won the playoffs. Lebron James is a great player.
You're gonna take nothing from Hall ofFamer, but his day I said
he can't score. But his dayfor leel the team a young team.
I hate said fellas over because seehe look he's always been an East when

(02:03:24):
he was younger, had game atMiami and at Cleveland in the East.
I never did thought he was aLaker anyway. But anyway, they haven't
won take away the Bubble, theyhaven't really won anything. So I think
they got talent. I think LebronJames. I don't know where he's gonna
fit in at because a lot ofthem teams, young teams like Houston's on

(02:03:45):
the upcome and all them young teamsthey don't They're not gonna use the Lebron
James. They're not gonna want himin the mix. That's why players like
Bill, why coaches like Billy said, it's not in the lead coaching us
a new time past. Be graciousand passed the baton to the young,
to the youngsters because far the timeis undefeeded. And and take it from

(02:04:09):
there. That's all I got thatthe fellas I had a good one.
Appreciate it, John, We appreciateyou as always. Father Time's a bitch.
You know that. You know fathertime is a bitch. You know
that. Why are you call himfor all the time of bitch? Because
he never loses? He doesn't,and we don't like people who never lose.
Now, some have, some ofhave delayed father time in pro sports.
We got one pitching on this staffhere, and Lebron's done the same

(02:04:31):
thing, and at some point hewill. But I think he's gonna leg
it out until his kids playing nextto him. Hence why his kid didn't
just didn't transfer. His kids cango in the NBA draft. Yeah,
that's that's why. And he's notNBA ready yet. Maybe Lebron should get
him there. Yeah, hopefully he'snot trapped ready. If he well,
if he wasn't Lebron's son. Yeah, you may not get trapped be going

(02:04:55):
back to us damned right now,All right, let's get to break and
uh, you know you want totalk Lebron James. No, they're going
bad enough on TV. We are, Yeah, they are. They've literally
that's all they've talked about. Youwanted to give me. I thought you
were gonna give me some wells andsome certain numbers. I got those numbers.
Can we get about pitching for MajorLeague baseball? Yeah? That's next
to Sports Talk seven to eighty.The most refreshing way to start your day.

(02:05:21):
Shower, shave and Sean, they'redone. The courtesy flush is always
appreciated. Thank God, Thank thegood Lord. Thank you from the management
team here at Sports Talk seven ninety. Back to Shawn Salisbury. Yeah,
so we were talking earlier. You'relistening to Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Brown

(02:05:42):
and TRIPLEI. We're talking earlier aboutpitching in Major League Baseball and how we
have seen the evolution of baseball towhere pitchers five six innings is really what
you get out of starters. MaxFreed the other night through a complete game.
But you don't see that very often. Just last year only one twenty
game winner. Getting to three hundredwins is damn near a rare feet these

(02:06:03):
days. It looks like Justin erLander, if he stays healthy and pitches
another couple of years, which weall expect him to, he'll eventually get
to three hundred wins. I thinkthe only thing that stops him from getting
to three hundred wins is because he'ssuch a pro and prepared as is another
injury and unfortunately, you know,he'd be so much I mean, he'd
be staring right at if it wasn'tfor him missing some stuff because of that,

(02:06:25):
you know, But he's such agrinder I expect to get because he's
still pitching at a high level.He'd just not giving you one hundred and
ten pitches and eight innings. That'sokay, that's when the expectations go down.
A twenty four year old should notbe living at five innings. I'm
just sorry he shouldn't. Agreed,Yes, yeah, I agree, all
right. I just pulled up GregMaddox just real quick. Greg Maddox pitched
twenty three years in Major League Baseball. The most innings he threw two hundred

(02:06:53):
and sixty eight. Do you knowhow many seasons Sean he threw under two
hundred? How many years? Twentyyears, eighteen? How many years they
pitch? Twenty three years, twentythree years. Maddox probably threw under two
hundred innings four or five times,so nine times. But out of those
nine there were one, two,three, three years where he threw one

(02:07:16):
ninety four and above, so oneand a third And was that? Was
there any he miss starts due toan injury or something where he missed a
couple starts? Possibly six out ofthe twenty three years in his big league
career, he threw under one hundredninety innings, Okay, And then you
look, I want to know howmany starts he made in those years he
threw under one hundred ninety, becausethen I could take into let's see games

(02:07:39):
started in give me one hundred andninety inning year, one hundred and ninety,
okay, one hundred he uh,thirty four game started, gosh dang,
thirty three games started. This wasthis was towards the tail end of
his career. There you go atthe end. There's preserving him. There
you go at the end of hiscareer. So his final two seasons in

(02:08:03):
two thousand and seven in league.Sorry, I'm mistaken, because in two
thousand and eight, No, no, yeah, it's right, two thousand
and eighty threw one hundred ninety fourinnings. Excuse me, yeah, and
two thousand seven, two thousand andseven he threw one hundred ninety eight those
last two years of his career.So two thousand and seven, yep,
second last year of his career.He threw one hundred and ninety eight innings
in two thousand and eighty three onehundred ninety four And how many starts in

(02:08:24):
both of those seasons thirty four andthirty three each. Come on, man,
in his final two seasons, wego back to we've lowered expectations,
and I don't get it, becausewe have more ability to train to recover.
It's we've talked, talked about it. You can go back and listen
on the podcast, and yeah,you know we have passion for it.

(02:08:45):
It's not a matter of, oh, these guys aren't as good. That's
that's not the point. The pointwas they're really good. But why have
we lowered expectations? And this isthe expectation now and and specialization, and
yet we'll turn right around. Whena guy gives you five innings, say,
man, that's a great performance,and then we're pissed at the back
end of the ball is worn out, not just here anywhere, man,
Think about that twenty year, twentytwo and twenty three, thirty four to

(02:09:05):
thirty five stars or whatever it was, thirty three thirty five. His his
numbers are just stupid. Like innineteen ninety two, two hundred and sixty
eight innings pitched, he was anAll Star, he won the cy Young,
he got MVP votes, and hewas a Gold Glove winner. Hey,
he won like gold gloves like enormous, like what fifteen of them or
something is from a pitching point.In ninety three, he won the cy

(02:09:28):
Young again, was not an AllStar for whatever reason, was got MVP
votes and won another Gold Glove.In let's go I mean, I mean,
my goodness, let's look down atnineteen ninety four All Stars Cy Young
MVP votes, Golden Glove, innineteen ninety five All Stars Cy Young MVP

(02:09:48):
votes and gold Glove. Greg maddoxis a perfect example of why pitching is
more important than throwing, and well, not everybody can be Greg Matics you're
exact right, but I would listen. Would you rather aspire now? But
here's the here's really what it comesdown to. High school pitchers rather aspire

(02:10:09):
to throw a hundred or be GregMaddox. They want to throw a hundred.
And that's what people are teaching now, I know, and that's why
it gets that whole un run,run, sprint, crow, hop and
launch a ball into the net.See if you can hit one hundred,
hit ninety five. Well, unfortunatelyyou don't get to run from second base
to the pitcher's mound like they do. And what's that cricket and the ball

(02:10:33):
right right? So it's just Ijust honest, with all the healing and
medicine, doctors, money, trainingwellness, why we expect less? They
train more and seems like longer andharder and specialize. Why we have more
injuries? And I know it's thevelocity and ramping it up and Machel all

(02:10:54):
that stuff, But when are weever going to flip the switch and go
back to teaching pitching not throwing.I don't think wherever we're gonna sit,
which is to me, is muchmoney drives this. I'm sorry if you're
a twenty five year old and you'reaveraging five innings a game and you're healthy.
I'm not carrying you off the fieldon my shoulders, yep, unless

(02:11:15):
it's the seventh game of the WorldSeries and you threw five innings and no
hit ball and we pulled you outbecause well, you've walked the player.
So we figure it out, don'tlet him and we don't allow anybody to
go through adversity anymore for the mostpart. Now it's a little hyperbolic,
but it's like, oh, thesecond one thing goes wrong, we don't
allow anybody to pitch through trouble unlessyou're a superstar status. Even then we're

(02:11:35):
backing off from that. Now,got to get him out, yeah,
don't. I don't want his confidenceroom because he walked two batters in a
row. We're up four to nothingand now one swinging about makes it three.
But he's had a good go AndI get there's timing and you've got
to manage and do that. Yousee if velocity's down six miles And I
get all that, But with howtimes have changed, even from Rivera and

(02:11:58):
Pedro Martinez and guys who've pitched recentlyin the last decade to now is that
we're the hero worship over five innings. I'm sorry, I can't do it.
I just can't. Yeah, canyou no, Verlander? One?
I can when you're throwing a gymsix five to six innings. But you
know what, Vertlander doesn't even expecthimself to stop at five. That's the
difference. Our expectations have lowered whenthey should raise considering all the different avenues

(02:12:24):
we have. Twenty years ago,you couldn't go on the dugout and look
at a surface and see in realtime, you know, the live pitching.
You had to look at it somestill shot or some guy saying,
yeah, I watched, and here'sa piece of paper I wrote down location.
You got to go in, punchin a computer and do it.
Now. It's a matter in football, quarterback can say I missed that ball
by six inches and the second youget to the bench you can see it.

(02:12:48):
I just don't understand why we expectmore less when we have more opportunities
to stay healthy and recover quicker.Yeah, it's weird to me. So
let's get a quick call before weget to the nine o'clock hour. Bill,
Good morning. You know it's crazy, guys, when you think how
far or not that long ago thatbaseball fans and people like you, guys
knew starters and closers. You hadstarters and closers, and your middle relievers

(02:13:13):
were guys you barely knew their names, and you mixed and matched them.
Right, Bill, you didn't reallyknow who was coming into sevens. You're
like, had had no clue unlessyou unless somebody got sheld in the second
inning. You knew who they weregoing to bring me in to pitch the
next four, right, you know? And we knew when the Yankees started
with like Stanton Nellie and Rivera.That's kind of when we got to at

(02:13:33):
least so that's what it felt like. Specialization became. You got to have
a seven guy, gotta have asetup guy, and got to have a
closer. Right, you're exactly inbetween. It was just mix and match
as many as can get people out, and you may have to go four
innings. You're right, you could. You could. Do you think Josh
Hayter could go three innings? Doyou think Ryan Presley could go two and
three quarter or two and two thirds? No? It's crazy, a Brallo,

(02:13:56):
how many innings can think a Brallocould throw Brian not Jose Oh.
I would probably say that you're you'remaxing them out at six outs. And
yet whenever anybody talks, they say, we could turn him into a starter.
I know you'd have to ramp himup, but we'll rarely trust the
guy to get more than six outsin those positions, rarely you think.

(02:14:16):
Do you think Pitt got more thansix out? Bruce sooter VERA, yes,
it might have started with RIVERA.Yeah, Stephen, Steve, Steve
Bodrozian, Trevor Hoffman, you havedifferent stories, brother, Yeah, I
got you. I got you allright, brother, Thanks, appreciate you
too, Thank you. Bill.Seven one three two one two five seven
ninety. Let's get into the nineo'clock hour. Joey Loperfito getting the call

(02:14:41):
up, have a little fun.What nickname would you go with for Joey
Loperfito seven one three two one twofive seven ninety j Lo Lopes Lopo,
Joey Cooks, Joey Joey Ice.I don't know. I'm just reading what
I've what I got in front ofme, Sean, don't give me that
look. What nickname would you giveJoey lofo. It is he a dog?

(02:15:03):
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Sean Salsbury Show in the NBA Playoffs, Joey Loperfito getting the call up.
The team has yet to make aretro or excuse me, yet to make
a corresponding move. Trey Cabbage wassent back down to Triple A after the

(02:17:52):
International Series down in Mexico City.They were allowed to add an extra player
to their roster. However, heis sent back down. So who's it
going to be? Who could beoptioned or dfad to make room for Joey
Lopafido. We'll have to wait andsee what that decision is. Nothing official
from the Astros just yet, alot of excitement for Joey Loperfito. He

(02:18:15):
is leading Minor league baseball on homeruns. He's got thirteen of them,
hitting to eighty seven. I meanhe has been hitting the hell out of
the baseball. The one knock isthe strikeouts for low PERFEEDO leave, it's
thirty seven strikeouts. But I dofind it odd that we over the last

(02:18:39):
handful of years, we've thirty sevenstrikeouts yet hitting two eighty seven ops of
eleven hundred over the last handful ofyears we've I've heard every I've heard analytics
tell me I don't care about thestrikeout, It's just another out. I
want the home run and the pop. So why are we care of few
strikes out? I'm not saying Idon't, but don't you hear it all
the time? Yeah, hey,we've changed. That would have hell,

(02:19:03):
Rob Deer and Mickey Tettleton and MarkReynolds of the world would thrive again.
Now why because man home runner orstrike out? Cool? I'm in So
if we're if we're concerned about lowperfido's strikeouts, then why aren't we concerned
about Aaron Judges. Well, ShawnHee's not Aaron Judge. I get that,
but Aaron Judge came in strike itout. Why aren't we concerned about

(02:19:26):
Stanton? He won an MVP andhe's going to strike out two hundred plus
times again if he stays healthy enoughto get to the plate that many times.
So why is it any different.You'll hear this, Well, he's
a rookie, don't fragile personality.I'll treat it like I do quarterbacks.
If I'm worried about Joey low Perfidolosing confident, now he may lose a
little confidence. I'm talking about tothe point where you lose and you feel
so defeated you can never come outof it. And you're that young and

(02:19:50):
with a with an energetic attitude,and if you can't overcome failure, then
then baseball's not is never going tobe for him. So you do do
you know when the right time isto bring somebody in? I don't.
I've never known the right time.It's never the right time for a quarterback.
It's never the right time for afigure. We don't know the right
time. You know when you knowthe right time. When I see the

(02:20:11):
dude operate under stressful conditions, andit'll be stressful, it'll be nervous to
be ready to roll and maybe you'llget a hit, maybe you won't.
That's why when you draft these guys, you have to dig deep into how
mentally and emotionally tough are they?I'm not worried about it. It sure
as an affected nine strikes out,did it affect the next two home runs
he hit? Maybe the major leaguelevel is different, and obviously the pitching's

(02:20:33):
going to be different, the bullparksare going to be different. I get
all that. But if somebody's tellingme I don't want low Berfeeder to lose
confidence if he strikes out three times, you know what, At some point
I hope he does strike out threetimes in a game, and then the
next game or the next to batrakes, that will tell me that he
knows how to deal with success.I know every swing in Richard and the

(02:20:54):
league can deal with success, meaningconfidence. Now some can't deal with success
because they get two arrogant and takeit for granted. You know what I'm
saying, Ooh, you're on aroll. You're you're six out of twelve
and you're rolling. It feels goodball looking like a softball, slow pitch.
Sitting on a tee with Joey lowPerfido. Why is it that we're
so fragile with Ooh, were youworried about c? J. Stroud losing

(02:21:15):
confidence this year? What was how'dthey start the season? What was that
record? Oh? So the restof the year they went, they went
what ten and five? Yeah?And he ended up as as good a
rookie season we'll ever have at thequarterback position. Did any of us work?
Man, we better go sit CJdown? Did Davis Mills? Let's
let him go through the struggles soCJ learns. Stop it now. If

(02:21:37):
you had a Hall of Famer playingin front of you, Aaron Rodgers in
front of Jordan Lovet, then great, it works out. Or Brett Brett
Farv in front of Aaron Rodgers.Great, it's the same thing here.
I don't know when it's ready,and neither do you, we thought,
I mean, hell, none ofus do. But the only way you
find out is stick him under durestand let's see. And the truth is,

(02:21:58):
Brian, if he loses his confidenceand has a rough goal of it
for six games and he's never thesame, do you think he was ever
going to be a great player?No, he would six. Hey,
failure exists far more than success doesin pro sports, especially in baseball.
Yeah, especially, so I'm notworried about his The fragility of Joey Low

(02:22:18):
Perfito striking out. I'll tell youwhat, if he swings out hacking and
not staring at fastballs right down Broadway, I'd rather have him do that than
roll over trying to pull everything andhit a home run where it's like,
dude, you got to get thefat part of the battle the ball go
with be a hitter as opposed tojust that. And he's still learning to
be a hitter the neck up.Good players they'll deal with failure, So

(02:22:43):
don't don't worry about that with him, And if it does, he was
never gonna be the guy you wantin the first place. How's Yaner Diaz's
confidence? Pretty good? Okay,pretty good last year too? Right as
a rookie, Yeah yeah, Igot you all right, So let's just
roll with and see what happens sevenseven ninety Roger, what's going on?
What's going on? Man? Hey? Uh so let's you know, let's

(02:23:05):
not drag the cart for the horse. Let's uh, let's wait and see
Low can do. First liked beinglike dude, you know why I started
calling him dubey until you know,he took over for a two b that
when he was hurt and did areal good job of it. So let's
uh, let's let him earn hisnickname first and then uh then we'll think
about that next. As far asthe NBA coaching, I'm kind of I'm
kind of glad that that uh didLebron's phasing out man, because you know,

(02:23:30):
for all the for all his awesomeworks that he did, and he
is a he is a monster inthe n B A you know, in
the NBA statusphere. You know,you know, he's the mand but uh,
he you know, he for foreverything, for a lot of things
that he did. He brought ona lot of back stuff to you know,
he created that super team stuff anduh, you know, the the

(02:23:52):
the load management and you know acertain coaches. San Antonio had a certain
thing to do with that too.But you know, I just stay this
time to you know, we phaseout some of these old heads, you
know, because I do, likeyou know what, when I turn on
the TV during the NBA season,it's usually a blowout and I don't want
to see it. You know,I'm just I'm done. You know,

(02:24:13):
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Extends his contract with a new twoyear deal with the Chiefs Lakers.

(02:25:26):
Pelicans eliminated in the NBA playoffs,Joey Loperfedo getting the call up. The
team has yet to make a retroor excuse me, yet to make a
corresponding move. Trey Cabbage was sentback down to Triple A after the International
Series down in Mexico City. Theywere allowed to add an extra player to
their roster. However, he issent back down, so who's it going

(02:25:48):
to be, who could be optionedor dfaid to make room for Joey Lo
Pafito. We'll have to wait andsee what that decision is. Nothing official
from the Astros just yet. It'sa lot of excitement for Joey Loperfido.
He is leading minor league baseball onhome runs. He's got thirteen of them,
hitting to eighty seven. I mean, he has been hitting the hell

(02:26:11):
out of the baseball. The oneknock is the strikeouts. For low perfeto
leave, it's thirty seven strikeouts.But I do find it odd that we
over the last handful of years,we've thirty seven strikeouts yet hitting two eighty
seven ops of eleven hundred over thelast handful of years. I've heard every

(02:26:33):
I've heard analytics tell me I don'tcare about the strikeout. It's just another
out. I want the home runand the pop. So why do we
care if he strikes out. I'mnot saying I don't, but don't you
hear it all the time? Yeah, Hey, we've changed. That would
have hell. Rob Deer and MickeyTettleton and Mark Reynolds of the world would

(02:26:54):
thrive again. Now why because manhome run or strikeout cool, I'm in.
So if we're if we're concerned aboutlow Perfido's strikesouts, then why aren't
we concerned about Aaron Judges? Well, Shawn, he's not Aaron Judge.
I get that. But Aaron Judgecame in strike it out. Why aren't
we concerned about Stanton? He wonan MVP and he's going to strike out

(02:27:15):
two hundred plus times again if hestays healthy enough to get to the plate
that many times. So why isit any different? You'll hear this,
Well, he's a rookie, don'tfragile personality. I'll treat it like I
do quarterbacks. If I'm worried aboutJoey low Perfido losing confident, now he
may lose a little confidence. I'mtalking about to the point where you lose
and you feel so defeated you cannever come out of it. And you're

(02:27:37):
that young and with a with anenergetic attitude, and if you can't overcome
failure, then then baseball's not isnever going to be for him. So
do you know when the right timeis to bring somebody in? I don't.
I've never known the right time.It's never the right time. For
a quarterback. It's never the righttime for a pigion. We don't know
the right time. You know whenyou know the right time. When I

(02:27:58):
see the dude operate under stressful conditionsand it'll be stressful, it'll be nervous
to be ready to roll, andmaybe you'll get a hit, maybe you
won't. That's why when you draftthese guys, you have to dig deep
into how mentally and emotionally tough arethey. I'm not worried about it is
sure has an effected nine strikes out? Did it affect the next two home
runs he hit? Maybe the majorleague level is different, and obviously the

(02:28:20):
pitching's going to be different, thebullparks are going to be different. I
get all that, But if somebody'stelling me I don't want low Berfedo to
lose confidence if he strikes out threetimes, you know what. At some
point I hope he does strike outthree times in a game and then the
next game or the next to batrakes. That will tell me that he
knows how to deal with success.I know every swing in Richard and the

(02:28:41):
league can deal with success, meaningconfidence. Now, some can't deal with
success because they get too arrogant andtake that for granted. You know what
I'm saying. Ooh, you're ona roll. You're six out of twelve
and you're rolling. It feels good. Ball looking like a softball, slow
pitch, sitting on a tee withJoey Low perfito. Why is it that
we're so fragile with Ooh, wereyou worried about CJ. Stroud losing confidence

(02:29:03):
this year? What was how'd theystart the season? What was that record?
Oh? So the rest of theyear they went, they went what
ten and five? Yeah, andhe ended up as as good a rookie
season we'll ever have at the quarterbackposition. Did any of us work?
Man? We better go sit CJdown? Did Davis Mills? Let's let
him go through the struggles so CJlearns. Stop it now. If you

(02:29:26):
had a Hall of Famer playing infront of you, Aaron Rodgers in front
of Jordan Loved, then great itworks out. Or Brett Brett Farr in
front of Aaron Rodgers. Great,it's the same thing here. I don't
know when it's ready, and neitherdo you. We thought, I mean,
hell, none of us do.But the only way you find out
is stick him under the rest andlet's see. And the truth is,

(02:29:46):
Brian, if he loses his confidenceand has a rough goal of it for
six games and he's never the same, do you think he was ever going
to be a great player. No, he would. Hey, failure exists
far more than success doesn't pro sports, especially in baseball. Yeah, especially,
so I'm not worried about his thefragility of Joey low Perfito striking out.

(02:30:07):
I'll tell you what. If heswings out hacking and not staring at
fastballs right down Broadway, I'd ratherhave him do that than roll over trying
to pull everything and hit a homerun where it's like, dude, you
got to get the fat part ofthe battle the ball go with be a
hitter as opposed to just that.And he's still learning to be a hitter
the neck up. Good players they'lldeal with failure. So don't don't worry

(02:30:30):
about that with him. And ifit does, he was never gonna be
the guy you wanted in the firstplaces. How's Yaner Diaz's confidence? Pretty
good? Okay, pretty good lastyear too? Right as a rookie?
Yeah, yeah, I got you, all right, So let's just roll
with and see what happens seven sevenninety Roger, what's going on? What's
going on? Man? Hey,Uh so let's let's not drag the cart

(02:30:54):
for the horse. Let's uh,let's wait and see first, like doub
like Dubey do what I started callinghim due until you know, he took
over for a two b that whenhe was hurt and did a real good
job of it. So let's uh, let's let him earn his nickname first
and then uh then we'll think aboutthat next. As far as the NBA
coach, I'm kind of I'm kindof glad that that uh did Lebron's phasing

(02:31:16):
out man, because you know,for all the for all his awesome works
that he did, and he isa he is a monster in the n
B A you know, in theNBA statusphere. You know, you know,
he's themand but uh, he youknow, he for for everything,
for a lot of things that hedid. He brought on a lot of
back stuff to you know, hecreated that super team stuff and uh,

(02:31:37):
you know the the load management andyou know a certain coach in San Antonio
had a certain thing to do withthat too. But you know, I
just think that it's time that,you know, we'll phase out the some
of these old heads, you know, because I do like you know,
when I when I turned on theTV during the NBA season, it's usually

(02:31:58):
a blowout, and I don't wantto see it, you know, I
just I'm done. You know,most of the times you turn on the
NBA game, it's a blowout.So that the league has been, you
know, just a little bad connection. I wonder why we're getting a lot
of Roger there. We're getting ah, there a lot of phones or but

(02:32:20):
it sounds robot where the robts.Yeah, it sounds like a robot.
Again. I don't know what's goingon. He talks about he hates he
he says every game he tunes on, for the most part, he's seen
a blow out. The n getit. And he's right about the Lebron
and things. Lebron's brought a lotgood. But the very reason we have
some of the things Lebron's influential iswe well know, and while influential in
a lot of great ways, there'sbeen some things that Lebron. Lebron has

(02:32:43):
kind of changed the way we viewbasketball about load management and building uh powerhouse
teams and go where you want togo to win a championship. He's been.
He's at the forefront of that.But you can't take away from his
impact in the league and his impactand how good a player he's been for
a long time. Yeah, maybethe it's the biggest physical freak not named
Wilt Chamberlain maybe we've ever had inthe lake. I don't think that's a

(02:33:05):
hot take either, No, II don't that's not a hot that's I
firmly stand believe that one Wilt Chamberlain. If they were to see him,
then now you'd have been people thatdidn't get to see him play. Yeah,
my dad, you would be trippingover how good that guy was athletically.
We'll see if phone I was catup and run a mic. What's
going on? Hey guys, along time listeners, first song call?

(02:33:26):
How you doing? But thank yousir good. I wanted to go back
to the UH pitchers pitch in fiveinnings. I was wondering, what do
you think about a lot of itis general managers and management because of the
analytics we're saying the third time throughthe lineup, and so they're pulling him

(02:33:48):
after five innings because a lot ofthese guys were great in college. If
they were great in college, theythrew every game, you know, a
little long time, and if andI wonder how much of it was analytics
and not that the pitcher didn't wantto pitch more than five innings. It's
the management. They didn't let himpitch more than five minutes because of the
analytics say, and you know,third time, sorry, batting averages go

(02:34:11):
up. I think and Brian hadmentioned that earlier spot on. I think
that's part of the problem. Ido their ex we talk and with Brian
and I and mentioning expectations on myend of it, their expectations. You
look at a card that says,hey, third time through, they hit
two sixty against the guy, nottwo thirty seven. Yet he's going good.
The first time he throws four pitchesfor ball, they get him out

(02:34:33):
and not just here anywhere, Mike, you're one hundred percent the expectations we
have. While analytics is great becauseit's evidence, sometimes you got to change
the evidence to say that DNA testwas wrong. Okay, I mean,
I know that's hyperbolic, but youget my point. Sometimes you just get
a feel for a guy's going goodand you just got to go with it.
I think it's support. I personallywould like more feel less analytics.

(02:34:56):
I don't want to do away witheither. I think you need both.
But there is no out in mymind. I think when it gets down
to it, if you're feeling greatabout a guy in Major League Baseball,
now, but the card says,well, the computer print out said man
in the fifth inning hitters one throughthree, which are pretty good, they
hit two sixty against him when normallythey hit two forty eight. We gotta

(02:35:18):
get him out. There is absolutelyno doubt analytics have a big part in
turning the pitchers into five inning guys, no doubt about it. Correct,
Thanks for the call. My appreciateit, Mike, thank you. Thanks.
It's true among other things, butthat's got to be one of them,
Brian, it has to be oneof the big reasons. Yeah,

(02:35:39):
Okay, agreed. Yeah, Ithink I'm not saying one hundred and ten
pitches in the fifth inning, he'llpull his as out. No. But
and if you, for instance,if you face Otawny and he's hitting three
thirty against you in the sixth inning, but you're going good, guess what
the analytic is going to tell youabout most pictures against Otwani, don't throw

(02:36:03):
he's gonna hit you. Sometimes youjust got to say. Sometimes there's a
confidence boost that says, you knowwhat, dude, we're not putting him
on on four. We're up fourto one. There's one guy on base,
Go get his ass, but besmart and doing it. I believe
wholeheartedly. I think the psychological game, I'm going to take it another level.
I think the psychological game is moreimportant than than than analytics. I'm

(02:36:24):
not saying there's see it's a threetiered thing for me. There's feel,
there's analytics, and there in thosemetrics, and there's also the psychological part
of it. If you want tobuild a guy up, guess what you
shouldn't do for Joey Loperfido. Ifyou're up, If it's four to three
and he comes to the play witha run around second, he struck out

(02:36:45):
the first two times at the placeplate, guess what you shouldn't do pinchhip
for him. That's exactly right.But that's exactly what they're gonna do.
That's exactly right. You see mypoint? So what should we expect from
Joey Loberfido. Is he gonna beHow do you get to be great and
be clutch? If you're not ifthey if you're not left in clutch situations.
Age has nothing to do with clutch. There's a lot of clutch jeans

(02:37:05):
that are twenty one years old,right, I gotta get me a pair
of those, Yeah, with somebedazzle on it. I bet. Let's
keep this rolling right here. Onthe Sean Salisbury Show, H Towns Most
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book a few air holes. You'llbe cleaning that microwave. Trust me more
Sean right now? On Sports Talkseven ninety Yeah, I'm gonna go to
the Oh my god, it's toJohn John and Needville. What's happening to
John John? Yeah? You there, damn here. We'll don't speak your

(02:37:52):
ass up. Let's go, Johnny, you know we love you. Get
off that roof you're fixing and startto talk dog or hunting them deer even
though it's not deer season and it'sspring turkey season right around the corner.
Whin's that here? What? Ah? We got problems? Better? John
John? Give us a call backman whins spring turkey season. It's that
line. Line two is just notworking. Yeah, I two sucks work.

(02:38:16):
So when when is uh? Whenis spring turkey hunting scene? I
wouldn't know, but I've been invitedto go spring turkey hunt a handfull of
times. I've never done it.This is what I thought it whin spring
seas, Whin's Whin's turkey season?Head up to what South Dakota or something
or Arkansas April thirteenth to May twentyeighth. Okay, so we're in it.
One of John hunts turkey. Iwonder if he does. He hunts

(02:38:39):
hog? Well, so do youso? Do what I mean? Regular
hog? Okay, regular hog?That hog? What's the difference between that
hog? Uh? So? Yeah, I'd like to do that sometime.
I really would. Here's kind oftough too for some so I've never I've
never a spring turkey hunt. I'dlike to see a hunt, m and
let's go. Let's see are therebecause they're not as fat and they're they're

(02:39:01):
quicker. So the north North zone. I'm just wondering where's the best spring
turkey hunting here in Texas. I'massuming I'm just trying. I'm just deducting
this because I'm not, like Ijust said, I've never hunt turkey in
the spring. So I'm wondering,is the reason they're and now maybe they're
not tougher for some Is the reasonwhy they're tougher to get to is because

(02:39:22):
they're quicker because they're not beefed upyet? Is that that part of it?
Maybe there's all kinds of different.Uh. Let's see Rio Grand the
North Zone March thirtieth to May twelfth, Real Grand South Zone March sixteenth to
April twenty eighth. So it justended, John I'll no, I guarantee
you that. Yeah. Well he'sback on line too, so who knows
if it'll work well. Issues withLyne too. Let's sorry, let's try
it again, Johnny. What's up? What's cracking? Macin there? We

(02:39:46):
go? Now, I got you, Bud, all right now? All
morning long, I've been listening,and I've been listening. So this past
weekend this is where I think ithas all started from it, Brian,
you can attest to this mostly onto but shown on the football side.
And as y'all have seen and spoke, don't ever disrespect our football and baseball
knowledge for the other sports. Areyou talking about because of the training part

(02:40:07):
of it? Yes, I gotyou. I'm kidding you, brother,
I know what you mean. Yeah, here's my thing. So I'm out
watching my ten year old nephew thisweek great nephew this weekend down there at
the complex in Beasley, which Brian, if you haven't been, you need
to check it out. What's itcalled for? Complex? Diamonds something diamonds
at Daily Park. Diamonds at DailyThat's a beautiful complex. Yes, you're

(02:40:30):
right. And they are adding fieldsto that place. Yeah, I mean
that it is. It is nice. And so anyway, sitting there and
watching these kids and these parents aregoing on and on and on, you
know, and from the Katie team, and and just you know, they're
they're scoring runs. It's five tonothing. Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Now our boys start coming back.And I cannot believe I saw what

(02:40:54):
I saw out on a This wasa ten year, ten and eleven year
old team. The picture starts gettingrocks from the Katie team. What is
he doing as the coach has pulledhim off the mound and brought in someone
else he's crying. I'm like,I look at my nephew and I'm like,

(02:41:16):
what's the problem. He's like,dude, kids nowadays, he said
they ain't tough. He said thatthey he said. There, he's crying
because now he's starting to get hit. He's he's he's brought. He's had
a couple of runs scored on him, and he's upset because he wasn't and

(02:41:37):
what was happening. Mama got upout of her chair and we knew it
was his mama because of the wayshe was acting during the game goes over
it starts consoling the kid. Whatyou mean once again, once again answering
what I've always said, You're notletting our kids go through some adversity to

(02:41:58):
over it. That's the coach.That's the coach's job during the game to
walk and fun our kids. Youknow, we put our kids and we've
all done this. We've all putour kids on pedestals in sports here and
there. Yep. But when thekid, but when the kid now is
not dominating or he has lost hiscurveball, and that's all this kid was

(02:42:20):
throwing was curveballs, and then it'sflat. And the boys started tagging it.
I mean, he had a greatcurveball. But as y'all said this
morning, used to be man,you used to a curveball at twelve years
old or ten years old, youget your butt reamed out. Now,
these kids, as I've said inthe past, they're looking for Tommy John

(02:42:41):
surgery because it makes their arms better. Back to the pros, like I
tweeted to to or whatever earlier,when did the major league pitchers lose their
balls five innings? Are you saying? I don't want to hear about analytics
people, I don't want to hearabout more spin on the ball. I

(02:43:01):
get it. It was a greatconversation with the aggie guy whoever, whatever,
But I mean, come on,man, when did when did pro
sports athletes lose their balls? Javier, you got a criek in your neck?
Guess what, Jack, I wakeup every morning with a creak in
my frigging neck and I'm still outhere paving the pavement. Facts John,

(02:43:26):
thank you. That's a great pointabout a lot of that stuff. Listen,
I don't know, I understand weall do we And the truth is,
rarely is our kid as good aswe think he is, And he's
not as bad as striking out threetimes. He's only as half as good
as you think, right since somewherein the middle, and then how hard
they work and do the lonely workwill improve it out where they're coaching at
home and self esteem and all that. I don't have a problem with the

(02:43:48):
mom consoling them on the drive home, talking about building their confidence, self
esteem building at that time on thedrive. That's what I just said on
the drive home, emphasizing once they'rebetween the lines, mom and dad have
to stay out of it because itgoes back in because you're doing while it
may quit him crying and give hima Kleenex. You know what you're doing.
You're creating more down the road troublethan not. Let the coach do

(02:44:11):
it. And if you don't likethe way the coach is doing, have
a private conversation with him later.But by creating a soft landing every single
time for your kids, sometimes theygot to hit the ground, not a
trampoline. Let them find their wayto the trampoline to bounce back up.
Gott to let your kid fail.You can't, you have to, and
that's not failure, it's temporary.They had a bad game, big deal,

(02:44:33):
let him fail. But if whatare you going to do when he's
eighteen at Katie High School and hegets rocked for back to back home runs
and it comes crying to mom anddad. Then we all have those moments
we need a shoulder to lean on. It ain't between the lines with mom
and dad. No, And ifit is your and if you think it's
right, I'm not telling you howto raise your parents your kid, but
I am telling you it's a coachingsituation. I won't let you on the

(02:44:54):
field to console your kid unless he'shurt. Yeah, I mean hurt.
You're not coming, you know.But and when I blew out my knee
the first time, first time inArizona State, the stands are right next
to the sidelines. My pops camedown the way because you wanted to help
me get in the locke. Wasn'tthere to console me, Yeah, just
there to see how you see thatall the time. That's different. He
wasn't there to tell the trainers howto deal with me. He was there

(02:45:16):
to support my dad because we've neverbeen through it. He wasn't a dad.
I'm crying. I was pissed.He felt bad, but he was
there to walk in and wonder ifI had to take him to the hospital
right then and there, or ifthe ambulance was taken. You'll wait until
after the game all those things,or wait until we got back in,
which we did. Let a fewdays go by, But at that age,
you're already developing standards for your kidand thought process. You can't console

(02:45:37):
a crying kid. Maybe you knowwhat, maybe he just got to cry
his way through it. Yeah,you do. Sorry, your kid fail,
He'll figure it out, all right. Let's get to break. CBS
cbssports dot com put on an articleare the Astros digging too deep of a
hole already for their season? Let'sread through it and discuss it next right
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goodness, this is Sports Talk sevenninety Home of your Astros still twenty seventeen.
Chaps out about it. Sean SalisburyShow continues right now, Twupac Shakur,
Twoadacker. What what he's doing rightnow? He's gonna watch the Astros

(02:48:00):
to night. Well, apparently toyou, he's an East Coast rapper,
he's the West Coast. He's uh, he's probably down in the Dominican Republic.
He's got the MLB package, sohe's not gonna be able to watch
the Astros'll be blacked out down there. You know. He's coming out with
a new song tomorrow. Bro,we's gonna drop a disk track big tomorrow.
Midnight drops at midnight. That's alwaysthat you really did. I'm like,

(02:48:26):
I should have said yes, butthen I'm gonna yeah. So that's
what it was pretty easy and easywhen there said you I did, Yeah,
I drop I drove the ship rightinto uh an Iceberg, you Titanic
said, just by the beat andthe voice. If you live, it

(02:48:46):
should be after about two lines.Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, Tupac.
Yeah, come like from er Framberright. Oh yeah, there you
go. I just simply called himpark from the West Coast. We don't
have to say two in front ofit. Where I come from, it's
corn bread. Yeah, say twoin front of it. It's not corn
bread and chick where I come from. It's it's a front porch sitting you

(02:49:07):
feel me? Okay, oh,now you're into your wrap mode. The
country's out of here. That's tomorrow. There you go, Yeah, no,
no, we'll uh tomorrow's Western Wednesday. Yeah, yeah, Why do
you got to hand sign me?What do you mean? Hey? Why
do you go? What was thehey? Yeah? Why you got a

(02:49:28):
hand signing? Like? What youthink? You're not from the LBC?
Dude, stay away. First timeyou went in there, you were scared.
You were so scared you had tobuy dog his sweat, beads of
sweat and the LBC the guy toldyou to stay away for that street,
did it? Don't go over there? Yeah, said you go up one.
You've already been too far. Yeah, take a right, don't go
straight. I still cannot believe that. Find your way back to the find

(02:49:50):
your way back to the five.Went to the McDonald's. I was starving
once the McDonalds didn't think anything ofit. Once that nutritiou shop a little
bit later in the afternoon and hewas like, Hey, see the McDonald's
over there. Don't go there.After a certaine I was, just stack
your ass back to the four orfive and then get on a six ten
and take yourself into that beach Countycalled Seal Beach and stay away seal from
the lb s. Some seals there. Seal Beach great place, and that's

(02:50:13):
where some good players come out ofthat. I don't know, it's good.
That's the Seal Beach. I imaginetheir seal. I would imagine that
had something to not seals like theanimals like big women. Oh no,
I don't call seals big women.But I know in La Hooya, you'll
go down there in La Joya,you'll smell the seals from a restaurant.
It's a batsmith down there there thereall the time. You can smell while

(02:50:33):
you're eating your food at like George's, which is a great restaurant there right
there on Prospect and down at thebottom. Seals are everywhere. You can
hear them, and the smell isis it permeates through the restaurant. So
you're trying to you're trying to eatsome seafood and all of a sudden that
seal smell is rolling right up onyour ass. Off the breeze, off

(02:50:54):
the coastal Lajoya there to take youthere too. A little different than LB,
just so you know, probably alittle a little bit better probably,
Yeah, just a little bit,a little bit better to drive in there
unless you know somebody in the LBC. I'll direct you. I got you.
CBS Sports wrote this article, iscan a team dig too deep a

(02:51:16):
hole to recover these days in aseason? Yeah? Right? A bad
start? Yeah, well I've nottoo big yet, but you're about four
or five games from being in amode where you're going to have to give
you the greatest postseason kick in awhile. It can happen because they're talented.
Other teams that wouldn't. But Idon't think you want to put yourself
in that because you talk about stressand having to use people more than you

(02:51:39):
want when you're in a chase mode. That's how you have to use them
on a regular basis. You donot you're double digits out by June.
If you are double digits at offirst place by June, strap on,
buddy, because it's going to takeall it's a it's a long run then,
and it's every day you're thinking singleelimination, even though you got eighty
games to go or ninety games go, whatever it is. In twenty eighteen,

(02:52:01):
the Dodgers started sixteen and twenty sixand they won the pennant. The
next season, the nineteen and thirtyone Nationals became the World Series. Check
well, if you remember, goback to when Colorado got to the World
Series and swept by the Boston RedSox. I believe that year they won
like twenty two of twenty six ortwenty four, twenty eight down the stretch
to get in to the playoffs andthen went on and then got completely bamboozled

(02:52:26):
and boat raced by the Red Soxin the World Series. Yeah, man,
Clint Hurtle did a great job there, but they ran out of gas
in the postseed, I mean,the first one in the World Series.
They were just exhausted they were insingle elimination mode for damn near for thirty
games down the stretch, but theywere playing phenomenal baseball at the time.
Yeah, So is it too earlyfor h it to be a hole for

(02:52:50):
the Astros? Well, looking attwenty eighteen and twenty nineteen for some of
these teams, no it's not.But they got to get going tonight against
the Guardians. Hunter Brown is onthe mound. Let's take a look at
that matchup and will Joey Loperfiedo bein the lineup for the shows that's next
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(02:55:31):
case. He did make a lotof a lot of scratch, a lot
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(02:55:54):
we got Hunter Brown on the moundfor the Astros tonight and he needs
a good outing in the worst waypossible. Put it to you that way
deep outing too. Yes, whenI say good outing, that's what I
mean, deep outing. I knowexactly what you. He has four hours
a good pitching, four four ourfour innings, a good pitching of solid
pitching and then coming out because ofa two bad batters won't be enough.

(02:56:16):
He's only maybe enough for the teamto win. But I think the optics
wise got to get a little better. Right one to four on the season,
nine point six to eight e RAlast time out, four innings,
four hits, three earned runs,two walks, six k's, eighty four
total pitches. His best outing ofthe season so far was Atlanta in uh
this this month on the sixteenth,six innings, five hits, two eurned

(02:56:39):
runs. Pitch pretty well got theloss they lost six to two. Other
than that, two thirds of aninning, three innings and four innings are
his outings so far this season.He's in the starting rotation because of lack
of bodies right now, and he'sgot some phenomenal ability, but that doesn't
always equal success, not just theteam for him and going forward, he

(02:57:03):
probably against a good hitting team thatwill scratch at you, and they can
be a tough out. He's forhim and going forward because if this stays
out is you're gonna need him topitch well, if he stays in rotation
to help this tea. He can't. We can't be hanging on a wing
and a prayer every time he goesout to pitch. It's got to be
today, it's got to be theNorm's got to be solid production. Every

(02:57:26):
once in a while gets knocked around, not the other way around, and
it's been the other way around.Do you think Joey Loperfido is in the
lineup tonight? I do? Ithink he starts. Really we're at outfield,
first base, okay, first bape. Here's a lineup tonight, Diaz,
Bregman, Panya, Altuove Low perffdod h the big fellow Lord on

(02:57:54):
McCormick and left. I'm gonna saydubond and center and Tucker and right,
Okay, that's what I'm going with. Where does hit between seven eight hole
lineup? Altuve, Bregman, Jordan, Tucker, Payana, Diaz, McCormick,

(02:58:18):
low Perffeedo, Mauricio Dubon. That'smy lineup tonight. The Guardians have
on the mound Hunter Brown pitching.Well, you know it ain't Rosco already
been around for a minute. Yearsold. Yeah, overcome some stuff in
his career too, He's uh,you know some some health didn't didn't he

(02:58:39):
have? Didn Carosco go through Didhe go through uh a form of uh
lymphoma at one point in time?Is that wrong? Give got the wrong
guy? Did Carrosco go through somesome health issues at one point in time
in his career? I thought hedid. Maybe it wasn't that exact one.
I thought he went through something thathealth wise as an overcame it.

(02:59:00):
Maybe it was some kind of armsstores. Maybe I'm putting it on the
wrong part, but I could haveswore he has made a comeback. That
was he had some health issues ahandful of years ago and he made a
comeback, had a scare at leasthe had a chronic may Lloyd leukemia.
There you go. So so it'sthat still trap mine brother, damn.

(02:59:26):
Yeah. And for him to comeback and still pitch good on him,
and he's good for a he's goodto still give you some stuff every now
and again. You hope the Astroscan get to him. But good for
him that he's still in the league. And it's a good night for Hunter
Brown to get right. Looks likehe had it back in twenty nineteens when
he was diagnosed. There you go, Wow, good to have him back
in the league and at what thirtyseven thirty seven tribute to him grind and

(02:59:48):
good for him. Yep. See, if the Astros can get a dub
tonight, you want to eat itup. If you don't eat it up,
why not, because because if youneed a dub, that means you're
not very good. Don't need straybulleted Jamis Winston late in the show today

(03:00:09):
this morning, nine fifty six.Let's see to w I'll do it.
I'll be sprinting out of this,oh man, that's gonna do it for
the Shawn Salisbury Show. He isShawn Salisbury. Our producers triple Emmanuel Elmore,
I am Brian li Lima. Thankyou for listening. We're back tomorrow
morning six a m Astros go forthe win tonight against the Guardians. Don't

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go anywhere. Next up we'll standNorthfleet and Chris Cordy coming up next to
Sports Talk seven to eighty