Astros Lose To Mariners, Bregman Moved In Lineup, Texans Extend Nico Collins To 4-Year $75M Deal

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Yeah. I mean we're getting,uh, a couple of opinions from our
doctors. I think we would knowsomething within forty eight hours for both guys.
Okay, let's do this, SeawanSalisbury, you will the truth sometime,

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friend, Shawn Salisbury, Ryan LimaLobos. This is the Sean Salsbury
Show, Sean, Good Morning.More struggles for the was Uh they lose
to the Mariners. Not good.Well, if you get that Hunter Brown

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for six innings, you'll take thatrest of his career. Nine strikeouts.
Uh, what an earned run,four hits. The guy was really good,
just couldn't close it out, andRyan Presley got to him, and
Seattle prove whither you know, leadingthe division by five and a half games.
But Hunter Brown was really good man. So we've been asking for him

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to get better, and he hasgotten better steadily. Excuse me about the
last four or five appearances. Andhe pitched well enough to win again last
night. He did. And ifI told you you were going to give
what he walk on struck out nineand six innings and eighty some pitches.
Hell, I think he could havegone another inning if you asked me.

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But you know, whatever the analyticssaid, but the heat. To me,
if I get that and listen,I know six innings you're saying,
Okay, it's still not what NolanRyan would do, but that's what the
pitchers do. Now six innings,you're a hero. He pitched well last
night. That was a good performance. And if I'd have told you a
month and a half ago the HunterBrown was going to be pitching like that
late may you just said not fromwhat I've seen, Well see it.

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He pitched really really well last night. And once again, that's back to
back games. How many runs theyscored last night? The score just two
runs? There you go, that'sfour runs and two games on the road
against a really good team, areally good team and a team that knows
how to pitch. But late inningloss, you know, you gave that

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one up and Seattle Rodriguez starting toget hot for them, they are,
he's starting to roll. So that'sa good team, man, And those
are the ones that the good teamsyou got to beat on the road.
In games like that, you atleast got to steal one or two.
And unfortunately for Hunter Brown, theycouldn't close it out for him. No,
they could not. Alex Bregman movedout of the four hole, hits

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in the five hole, goes twofor four with a bomb to RBIs.
Go figure, listen, don't shocker. If they turn around in a week
and stick him back in the fourhole just because they feel like they got
a force that, my head willexplode. Okay, he immediately goes,
gets moved down, even if it'sjust a slot, gets two hits in
homers and I'll tell you whatever reason. You can say what you want about

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his comfort level and how tough andcompetitive he is and a grinder and all
that. The bottom line is hedoesn't hit in the four hole and move
in there. Keep him there,you know, five six, whatever he
toggle between the two, depending onhow hot he is. But you don't
need to mess with that. Butyou know, Tucker, they're gonna Alvarez?
What he what'd he do last night? Why am I losing my mind?

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He got a hit last night?Or two? Your non had two
hit? There you go. Sowhen he gets rolling and Bregman ever gets
rolling and continues what he did lastnight, then they're gonna be okay.
But uh, gotta score more thantwo runs on the road against a good
team, and uh, they couldn'tand they got to Presley and there you
go, Yeah, we we're toolost. It just seems to me like

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Ryan Presley, Uh, just can'tseem to figure it out. What if
I told you that I that ifsomebody made an offer for a right the
player you needed or something that RyanPresley, that somebody needed a closer at
the trade deadline, that you'd movehim. Hmmm. Seems like he would

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want to go be a closer somewhere. Well, that that's his role right
not here. It was for andreally good at it. I'm not saying
he can't pitch. I'm not sayinghe's going anywhere. I'm not saying I'm
trying to shop him. But youknow, if if he's not, if
he doesn't settle in and where he'sa dominant pitcher again, would you at

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least listen? Yes, I wouldlisten, so because he can be a
valuable asset for here, but hecan also be a valuable asset for somebody
else. He really could be youhave Josh Haterer for the next four years.
I mean, he's not going toclose Ryan Presley, So I think
that you would probably listen, dependingon what you could get for him package

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was something else. I'm not saying, there's no rumor about it, nothing.
I was just thinking about last night. I wonder if his comfort level
if somebody offered a closer role andyou could get something and you felt like,
well, this isn't going to bethis isn't his best, you know,
spot to be in, even thoughwe figured seven eight nine would be
as dominant as any back into thebullpen in baseball, and they still may
very well be. But I justwonder if you would consider upgrade to a

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roster if, in fact, itcontinued to go like this and somebody wanted
him to close for them, thatwas a contender, would you do it?
I don't know, it's just athought. Yeah, I would.
I would. I would, definitely. I think I would for sure.
Janer Diaz has been struggling at theplate as well as of late. He

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said in two fifty one kind ofcome back down to earth, chasing,
chasing more pitches than he did lastyear out of the strike and they're starting
to learn how to pitch him andhe's going to be a really good player,
but he's going through that. Pitchersaren't stupid, and you know,
teams they know how the game planfor you, and they they're they're doing

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some different, they're approaching him alittle different. And wouldn't you I make
that young. I make him asa young player. He's got the responsibility
most of the time of being behindthe plate. So there's that you carry
with you. And then you gotto you know, as a catcher.
I mean you're down there in grindingand grinding whether he's a d H or

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a catcher, but the catching's positionswhereas spends most of his time. And
then you know you're getting up outof that. You're focused on making sure
a pitching staff, you're trying tocommand that. So you've got a lot
on your mind. And I wouldn'tthrow him a pitch he could drive either.
I'd make him chase and see ifyou can continue to get him to
do it. But the game ofbaseball and pitching, and as you know,

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it's an adjust it's a chess matchevery single time. Okay, we
know what this guy hits, well, why throw it to him there and
look at the adjustment. I mean, people still tried to get Jeremy Payne
you to chase out of the strikezone, and this year from last year,
has gotten much better at laying offbad stuff, and he's hitting over
three hundred, so and then youknow what, then they'll adjust to him
and try to, you know,pound him somewhere else. And it's the

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good pitching staffs and good hitters constantlymaking small adjustments to adjust to whatever they're
doing to you. And and he'sgonna have to go through that, Yan
dias Is, He's gonna have togo through that. So keeping him in
the six seven right net where hecan get back into a groove is fine,
where he doesn't have to chase badpitches. Well, now you're down

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two games in this series against theMariners, with two left, you gotta
scrap out both wins. Yeah,well you gotta at least split. Yeah,
I who's on the mount today ortonight? Who pitching for the for
the Astros sits up the rotation?Yeah, so I don't even know who's

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on the mound. Let's see.Well my notes just went down to give
me two seconds. Yes, justinVerlander? I thought, so, Yeah,
Erland or Raghetty. Well, there'sa there's a next two and then
Blanco against Minnesota and they you gottaface Kirby and Gilbert, this a hell
of a pitching matchup tonight. Yeah, but I would think that if you're

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looking at both, then you hadto choose one. That you take this
matchup over tomorrow's. Yeah, soit did. You got a call you'd
love to carve out to and split. But if you can, what you
don't want to do is have tolet the Mariners send you out of that
building with two straight you know,two more and then they get swept.
That's what you don't want to do. But after Verlander's last start, I

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would imagine you feel pretty good abouthow he can go on the road and
deal with pressure and and they,like I said, Kirby can ramp it
up to be a hell of apitching matchup. Take the under You'd think,
whatever it is, two good picturestonight, and hopefully Verlander can in
that streak for the Mariners. He'slast two. George Kirby or Jorgey Kirby
I call it depends depends on wherehe is and with what day it is.

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Yeah, probably Jorge. I likeOrgey Kirby. Yeah, me too,
even though I mean sometimes when you'retight called Georgie, Yeah, I
think just looking at his uh,media picture. I think i'd go Jorge
really yeah, yeah, let melook at the yeah, Koby, Yeah

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it could be could uh super Gyeah, G money No, no,
G buddy, Oh no, howabout G five? What's his number?
What number does he wear? GeorgeKirby, Uh, you know, to
be honest with you, I don'tknow. He's number sixty eight. By
the way, G sixty eight,G six, G six, G buddy.
You don't like the G buddy.Too many G moneies out there?

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Are there triple a lot of Gmoneies these days? Too many? Yeah,
but I like Jorge, but Ilike but I sometimes if you're really
tight with him, is like reallytight buddies or his mom or grandma.
Grandma probably calls him Georgie. Yeah, Georgie. Yeah, that sounds right,
Georgie, that sounds right. Youtalking about Little League practice, Georgie.

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Another thing you talk about g's.We talked about stacks. We talk
about getting that bread, getting thatbag. Nico Collins extended by the Houston
Texans. We got to talk aboutthat at some point. Yeah, well
you got piz, did they,Nico? Yeah, that's for what's supposed
to be a guy charging the numberone and is your number two. I

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guess if Steph Diggs is who webelieve Stephan Diggs, is that you?
Step Yeah o g Steph ty gotmakes sense? Uh yeah yeah, Nico
n c uh do you just callhim money bags? Now? He got
back got his that's awesome. Yeah, like guys get paid. Yeah,

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man early too, well what wein May? Yeah, we're still in
prompt he's like heading into the season. Yeah, had a little peace of
mind with a little three three yeardeal, a little three year of fifty
two of it guaranteed. Hell,didn't see it on the Bengo card this
early. That's nice. I wonderif the riding on the wall for uh

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Steph Diggs probably just the one anddone here, huh. I don't know.
Why what if he goes out andlights it up? Moving in at
eight am, we'll talk about NicoCollins. Yeah, I was gonna little
tea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll see the whole appointment radio Stefan
dig still has something to prove.Wants to get another big deal, right
one. You just got to takeit one catch at the time. You
know, I didn't drop any anyuh quote sayings yesterday. So you mean

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do you mean of somebody else's sayingsthat you that you say that your fred
like George Bernard Shaw, Winnie Churchill, yeah, me and Churchy Yeah,
some people call him Winny mostly theytell they tell to me though I know
them. Yeah, I'm like theirmouthpiece. You know what I mean,
I feel you. Yeah, Imean, it's I think everybody. I
mean, it's it's amazing how youcan say stuff as if Winston Churchill said

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it, and I think he wasborn before you. Yeah, I mean
might have been, he could havebeen. But how how's Yeah, they're
still stealing your stuff. It's amazingto me. It's phenomenal. BS.
Yeah, you know what I mean. We gotta fight. We gotta fight
that. What's it uh not tofollow a super slander, but uh,

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copyright infringement. Maybe if they justdon't, I know what we do.
We'll call Eric Dick. Here's whatI would like you to do. We'll
call it. Yeah, exactly.You know what I want you to What
I want them to do is justmake sure that they uh recognize who said
it and ain't it's Liliehman not WinnieChurchill. You know who needs to recognize

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fools? Right, they've been Seriously, they better recognize. They really better,
they better recognized. Hunter Brown pitchedwell for the Astros last night,
but it was not enough, asthe Astros fall to the Mariners four to
two. They got to win todayto try to get back into the series.
Hunter Brown spoke about his outing tothe media last night after the game.

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What did he say about some adjustments? Will continue to talk about it.
Seven one, three two, five, seven ninety. Alts also take
your calls all morning long right hereon the John Salisbury Show. This is
Craig Bugio. You're listening to SeanSalisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety. Oh

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have it some fuck. You're homewith the Stros right here on seven on
your home for Astros Baseball. Strostrying to get back into the series tonight,
eight forty the first pitch, seventhirty on Deck Show. Right here
on seven ninety. Astros General managerDana Brown going to join us at nine
thirty this morning. The Texans extendwide receiver Nico Collins to a three year
deal. T will stay alive.With the game four win over the MAVs,

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they forced the game five seven oneto three two point two, five
seven ninety the number to join DoctorJason, Jason, welcome in, Oh.
I hate this so much for Presley, that that guy, he's one
of my favorite pitchers for the Astros. I mean everything he's done for us,
you know, the last couple ofseasons before twenty three when he started,

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I guess kind of I wouldn't sayregressing more or less, but like
for him to be a closer andto be told that, you know,
Josh Haders coming in and he's goingto be that guy, and then you
have to readjust to be the setupguy when you're used to closing, you
know, making that transitions kind ofhard. I kind of feel that for

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the guy, I really do.I mean, it's just mentally that it
just seems like there's something off.So I'll just do it for the guy,
Fellas, I really do. Thankyou for the call, Jason.
I get I get it. Iunderstand that's because in truth, regardless of
how you look at and we said, but it was a demotion, not

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that eighth inning isn't important. Yousaw last night just how important the eighth
inning was. Of course it's important, and of course it matters, but
who gets who usually makes more onyour team. You're closer, you're either
setup guy. It's your closes,your closer. Sure it is so,
and it doesn't diminish, even thoughas if you're Ryan Presley, maybe it

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does in your mind. You neveradmit that it doesn't diminish how important you
are to the team, because ifyou're not good, we don't get to
the closer. And he's had sucha hell of a career as a closer,
doing a phenomenal job and been agreat teammate and it has been lights
out and he's Uh. But Ican imagine, as Jason said, I
would you know, who wouldn't lookat it as a change up even though

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you're getting paid. The contract doesn'tchange, but you can't help. But
I wouldn't think that psychologically saying,well, they obviously feel Josh Haters a
better closer than I am, yetyou still have a job. Here's the
part of you know what I feelfor him, But part of being a
great pro is making adjustments regardless ofthe situation. And he accepted it,
and he had no choice, andyou still got to go out there and

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prove you worth because who's who's tosay that somebody else down the road's not
gonna want him as their closer.Who's to say that something doesn't happen,
We're gonna have to put him inas a closer here. If hater's out
for two weeks because he's tired,you don't know, but uh, you
know, I get what Jason saying. I'm with you. It's adjustments can
be harsh, but which you can't. You can't. You can't let that

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fester too long because in truth,he does have his job to do,
and his job is get you tothe ninth inning with the same lead that
you left him and or you know, if it's tied and you're I mean,
you have to keep it. Youeither have to keep it where it
is or make the situation better.And unfortunately they got to him and Seattle's
a good team. I love RyanPresley, but Jay, he's right,

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you can't help but affect you alittle bit. I wouldn't think, regardless
of what we say, anytime somebodytells you that guy's a little bit better
than you and the closure role,so let's move you here. You embrace
it because he's a teammate, butit's hard to embrace the role that you
say, well, I was kindof I was an all star type guy
at that role. So I getit. But unfortunately, to do your

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job, you can't. At somepoint in time you have to let it
go and get you to the guyand get You've got to get to the
guy with the same that your teamleft to you. And unfortunately last night
that Seattle got to him and andthe you know, game changed around and
Seattle closed it out, and herewe are now down two games of the
four game series. Yeah, youlook at that late in that game,

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Jose Bray, you can't field aground ball. You know what the expected
batting average was on that, nota big XPA guy, but the groundball
two hundred. Alex Bregman had tothrow an air. That ball was hit
at sixty point six miles an hour. And then there was a pass ball
by yan Air Diaz and the Astrosgave up another run. They start to

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trail four two d and you knowwhat, we look at it like we
all do and say, well,what's wrong with Presley? You should have
been out. He could have possiblybeen out of it, right, So
it but it all goes hand inhand. I mean, you need somebody
to make a play. You needto, you know, keep the ball
in front of you as the caach. There's a lot of you need to

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dos, and unfortunately for Ryan Presley, all the need to dos weren't in
place last night. Yeah goes.It all goes hand in hand. It's
like two in the hand, oneof the bush, two in the hand,
one in the bush. Right,it's one in the hand, two
in the bush. If you havetwo in the hand, you'd never go
to the bush. Oh you wouldn't. Yeah, you're right. If you

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have one in the hand, youconsider, well, I got one in
the hand, right, I don'tneed the bush? Right? Yeah.
So the temptation is, man,I got one here, it's already secured.
Do I go into the bush totry to grab another? Grab two?
Even though you got a secure thingright, right? So you went
two in the hand, one inthe bush. So if you had two

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in the hand, why would youneed the bush? Uh? You need
one more? Right? You wanta third? So you're that grady?
Yeah, well it stay out ofthe bush, dude, Use what's in
your hand. Yeah, I'm notokay. Matter speaking of which, I
have some you know hedges, andI was gonna do it yesterday that storm

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jumped on us in a hurry.I was going to trim the bush man.
I really want to, because mymy I needed to. It's you
know how that gets a little.I want to tighten it up right.
And I actually went and bought theperfect time to do it and everything,
and I was going, yes,spring, late May. Yeah, it's
exactly right. Summer's here, yep, to make sure it's all tightened up
for the summer. And I'm aboutto do it today if I get clear,

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clear weather. But it looks likeit's going to rain all day to
day to drive in. And soyou called it two in the hand,
one in the bush. That's theway you say it, right, Tell
everybody to deal with it. Yeah, exactly Did you know that? Nelly?
I mean Alexi Thompson, the soccerguy. No, the female golfer.

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I want a major. She's twentynine. This is her? Did
I read this correct? And I'mtrying to figure out how this is.
She's played in eighteen US Opens.Did she play in her first one as
eleven year old? No way,no way? What's it? Who is
it? Alexi Thompson, she's retiring. This is he? That's her last
US Open. She's played in eighteenof them. I believe unless the person

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that less and it was a Ithink it was the LP side, unless
they misprinted it or I read itwrong, but I read it fifty times.
The reason why I'm just saying thatbefore we go to break, can
you imagine being having such a careerthat at twenty nine you decide I'm moving
on. She's retired, Yes sheYeah, her first US Women's Open was

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at age twelve. Yeah, she'splayed in eighteen straight US Opens. Yeah,
she's won a major. She's beena hell of a player. It
feels like she's been along round forever. Think about that, you, I
mean twenty nine, you're retiring.You're retiring from golf at twenty nine,
Yeah, Which tells me that she'seither either I don't know, if she's
raising a family, if she's tired, you know, get to the point,

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maybe her body's been you know,knocked around a little bit, you
know, gets a little sore,you know how it is. I mean
some people have different ailments, andyou know the back starts her. I
don't know. I mean, she'splaying in this so she's obviously pretty healthy.
Or maybe just you know that whenyou start at that young, agent
have to compete when you're twelve,that you're playing in eighteen straight. Say,

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you know what, Well, whata tribute to her. Hell of
a career. But can you imagine, Hey, oh eighteen us opened.
You must be fifty, she's twentynine and she's retiring. So good on
her for a great career, andmaybe she'll come. I'll tell you what
she does for the opportunity. Ifyou retire and after five years you rejuvenate,
whether it's raising family or getting healthy, whatever it is that she's going

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to do and get your energy back. Guess what You'll be thirty five and
you still got your best goal.She hasn't even her age, she's not
even at her best golf yet,no of knowing how to play the course.
But congratulations to her, man,what a run she's had. Man,
retiring at twenty nine. You imagineretiring at twenty nine? I could.
I would never do it, nomatter how much money. If you

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work too much, yeah, whatwould you do? Not? You can't
play in it? I mean Idon't want to play thirty six holes a
day seventy Although maybe I would,I wouldn't like I like to work,
man, so I know I can'timagine retiring at twenty nine. You know
they say about work right, working, will wishing won't there's that, Yeah,
they say that, but they thepeople right, okay, wave them.

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What do they say? Uh?Work? They say, work hard,
play hard? How many do youhave in the hand? Two of
them? Where's the other one?It's in the foot, in the bush.
We are where he established this.Oh that's a that's a one.
Put that one on social media,say, hey, man, two of

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right you took it right? Nevermind? Yeah you did? Yeah?
You right out of your hand?Yeah? Yeah too one. Yeah,
all right, let's hear from HunterBrown and how he felt about his outing.
That's next on Sports Talk seven eighty. The Shawn Salisbury Show continued Western

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Wednesday. It is yeah, thatis quickly, didn't it? Yeah?
I got Astros general manager Dana Brownat nine thirty this morning, The Tech
Dixon's extend wide receiver Nico Collins toa three year deal that max value seventy
five mil fifty two guaranteed for NicoCollins seven three two two five seven.

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Iiny talking about the Astros loss lastnight. Let's get back out to the
phone lines and talk to Jerome.Jerome, good morning, Good morning,
fellas. I'm watched the Astros forthe last four or five years, and
this lineup this year, this yearwith the managing man get on third base,
one out, and you don't eventry. You know you're not hitting

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that good or you don't even tryto butt the man over. I don't
understand that. Billy Martin, I'llbean I my old school Billy Martin.
With a team like this, we'dbe in first place. You got speed,
you got power, and you're notusing it. You're not using it
at all. There's too many timesyou have a man lead off with a

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double nobody out. He died onsecond. Babe, you don't even try
last night when you're I think whenyour drums tried to steal second Hey the
man to catch him through the ballin iron field. You know, I
tell you got to manufactured some runs. I remember see you get uh uh

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throughout trying to steal then to setup there how many how many years have
we led the league in double plays? Is it the last three? I
know, I know two years ina row we led the league in double
plays. And that don't make nosense. You got too much speed out
there. You got people that canbunt, they don't even try. Look

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at your dumb mother that he canbutt. You got Tucker. Tucker can
butt. You got uh uh alTuba he can butt. In the opinion,
real quick, I'm with you onplaying some small ball time's guy on
second base with no, it's notmacho enough to bunt a guy over to

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get him to third, then asacrifice fly drives. I mean, I'm
with you one hundred percent. Buthere's what we're never gonna see in what
I never want to see yord OnAlvarez or Kyle Tucker square around a butt.
And I don't care what the situationthe game is. But you are
one hundred percent correct on moving runnersover. Why does it always have to
be with ay double up the gap. You're not sacrificing a batter by moving

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a guy over. That's what thejob requires, right, move him to
third, sacrifice fly, score run. There's two outs. Now you got
the run to play. There's certainguys I never want to bunt. I
don't want Kyle Tucker swinging the batbecause that's a two run home run a
lot of times. But you're right. If you're the seventh pitter in the
lineup and you can't bunt and it'sin, you're not calling for a bunt

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all this MACHOs. So wow,I've screw Why are people scoring around a
butt? I believe it. Youknow I'm not gonna want yord On bunting,
But I do know this. Ina game that you know is going
to be tight against Seattle and you'vegot a runner on second and there's no
outs and your eight titters up,if your a titter can't bunt, then
you're not teaching it right or wegot it all wrong. It's okay to
play small ball once in a whileand move a runner over, Isn't that?

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Then why do we win? Aguy ground ball to second base in
the hole, the runner from secondto third, The runner from second goes
to third on a fielder's choice.You throw the guy at first and we
praise him because, oh, lookat he hit the ball on the right
side and moved him over. Sowhat's the difference. Why won't we praise
the guy who can lay down abunt to move a guy over. We
don't do it enough. I'm talkingabout across baseball. We're running again now.

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People are stealing bases like they usedto trying to and it's getting more
aggressive. So what's wrong with noouts and a guy on second moving him
over to third with a bunt.Guys don't know how to bunt anymore because
nobody's teaching it, and I thinkit's a mistake. But I don't want
Alba Rezber Tucker abb bunting. Yeah, I hear you, I hear you.
No, it just we be downone run, down one run.

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Okay, let's say this in thetenth inning, you got the man on
second. There's a long bunch ofman all the dad you just died one
run. If you get you gethim over the third. Any day you
can help pass battle a five deepfive battle? Are you gonna hit the
ball to set the bait he comein? We lose too many games like
that. Blast. Well, it'shard to watch, trust men, we

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appreciate the call. It's hard towatch. We hear you, man appreciate
it. So why have you Haveyou ever thought about that? Is it
just the optics and it's not it'snot macho that we can't bunt the guy
over. When I hear people sayand I listen, I got old school
and new school in me. Ilove to see the ball. I don't
want listen there's a runner on secondand there's no outs. You know what

(27:41):
I want Kyle Tucker doing driving thebaseball, there's no doubt. But when
the eighth hitter comes up, andthere's a runner on second, and it's
the seventh inning and you're in atwo two run ball gamer, a one
run ball gamer, it's tied oryou're you're down two runs, Explain to
me why you can't bunt the guyover. He had a fielder's choice.
We'll look look at him and putthe ball in play to the right side,

(28:03):
and a guy got the third base. But what if you bunnet to
the right side and move him overand literally square up to sacrifice? Do
you know it's rare that you seea guy square up show butnt early in
sacrifice anymore. It does not happenvery often now. When people say,
you'll get people in the past overthe last oh taking the bat out of
a guy's hands. Analytics, theyswing the bat. Well, you guess

(28:25):
what, I understand why they swingit? Now you want to know why
because guys don't know how to butt. Bunt one, left bunt one,
right bunt one, and then youstart taking your full swings at batting practice.
You know what I'm saying. Yousee it all the time, So
do I. So I I whathappened to the I thought the object was
to do everything you could to puta guy in position to score run.
And I believe if you're seven,eight and nine hitters or can't bunt,

(28:48):
what are we doing. I'm notsaying that you want it. Every day
certain guy, like I said,Ordune comes to play, Guess what he's
never doing. Dude, Oh bunny, I don't care if there's a guy
on, but it's not gonna happen. And it's not even just a double
play. I'm just forget even stayingout of the double play that Jerome's talking
about. How about just putting yourguy in position to score a run.

(29:11):
That a fly ball, sackfly boom, there's a run. Yeah, you
just lift it, get the ballin the air. Don't we teach launch
angle every day of the week inbaseball. Now, get the ball in
the air, hopefully it'll go outof the park. Well, if you
can get the ball in the airand sacrifice fly and get him home,
that's a run, which is justas good as a hit. Well,
you sacrifice an out, I'll sacrificean out for a run. It's just

(29:34):
me. So I don't want todo it all the time, and there's
certain guys that don't want to.But I never understood where we got to
the threshold of just saying, isit because somebody punched into a computer?
Buns? No good? But Ican tell you this, I know why
we don't bun anymore because nobody practicesit. No one can do it.
Yeah, which is quite frankly pathetic. And if I'm a pitcher, you're

(29:56):
right, and you square around abunch, you better expect chin music.
I'm not letting you just get afreebie, right. But I just don't
get why we think that it's notmacho enough in the world. I'm not
even just talking about the ash,so I'm talking about all through baseball of
moving somebody over to give a guya chance to driving a run. Why
can't we do that. What's theweirdest thing? Man? In a close

(30:17):
game, being able to do thatfor the runners in scoring position might not
be a bad idea, although mostof the time for me, the good
the tuckers in the world aren't aren'tbunting. He's no, they're gonna be
swinging it. Cannon's good morning.Hey. I don't want to be all
over the place, man, buty'all got my attention about, you know,
the bed and and what's talking andstuff like that, and I wanted
to get into something quick. OldPigeon, uh, you know, telling

(30:41):
to gwinn. I listened to aninterview on him and he was talking about
you know, I see he washe was big on getting in there and
you know, working on the swingall the time, and and right along
the time when he was going out, even back then, he was saying
when he started, you couldn't evenget in there, in there and get

(31:02):
your pitching practice. And everybody wasthere. But he said in his last
days there, man, you couldn'teven find nobody down there working on they
swing, you know. And uh, I just thinted some generational stuff and
that which takes me also to thispitching because they dove real deep into it
yesterday on something I was listening toabout these pitches these days and what's being

(31:23):
taught in the mechanics, and uh, and it's beginning. It sounds generational,
man, because I look at likeRandy Johnson's whole games, man,
and even when he was Arizona,I didn't give a damn about Arizona.
But I used to watch this.I used to enjoy just watching this guy.
Man a flamethrower. You don't evenhear that term. No more flamethrowers,

(31:48):
These guys getting out there pitching wholegames and stuff like that, you
know. And and a question,man, is it any more knuckleballers?
You know, isn't it knuckleballs?Left? Uh? There might be a
couple very if there is, Ifthere is, there not a regular I
don't know. There's no Phil Negroesaround or those guys who live who they're

(32:12):
or God rest his soul. Uhyeah, And Joe was here one time,
man, and uh, let mehit on a couple of things and
get out of here. Is thatit's about? Oh yeah, yeah,
Well, y'all ever do a remoteman, because I gotta meet y'all.

(32:35):
We are we are working on thoseon a regular basis, brother, to
get out. The only problem,just to be completely transparent is it's hard
because business is unless it's a breakfastspot like a data shop. You got
to find the right spot because youknow a lot of businesses in aren't open
till nine or ten o'clock. That'sthe only if this, If we were
on at a time when businesses wereopened, we'd be having remotes all the

(32:58):
time and we'd be out in thepublic, can meet and doing all that.
It's not because we don't want it'sjust the timing of it makes it
a little difficult to find it.So yeah, if at the right breakfast
spot and doing it, we wouldlove it. And you're more than welcome
that we'd love to have you.Like I said, we got to throw
a little party to get all ofour listeners there so we get a chance
to meet you guys. Anyway,my man, Yeah, I email the

(33:19):
manage. They got to yah.Yeah, program manager got to email,
and I emailed him about the textline and through that idea out there,
and I like me get out ofhere and just yeah and just one more
thing here that uh yeah, Ihad a problem with y'all killing John Fogerty
yesterday and bringing him back to life. Now, okay, hey, before

(33:42):
that, it was it was reallyit was like a it was a twenty
second kill, okay, because wewere talking about Bill Walton. The buddy
of mine sent a message right afterthat, and he sends me messages with
these guys and we're talking about BillWalton. That I took hard because I
Bill Walton's been phenomenal to me andwhat a great human being. And then
he sent me fok said, hesent me Fogerty right after and he said
seventy nine and he sends me emojisthat did signify, you know, if

(34:07):
it's a birthday cake. And Iread and with w if somebody passed away
at maybe like the gravestone, Andhe does it with you know, obviously
humble and reverent. And then hesent me that and I and he sent
me Fogerty and it was a birthdaycake. But I glossed over it,
thinking, oh my gosh, you'retelling me John did Fogerty died like just
as the next day after Walton did, right, And I'm sick to my
stomach. And so when I saidit, and right when I was about

(34:30):
to say it again. I'm like, no, biscuit, my bad.
That's a birthday cake. He's seventynine years old. Yeah, me too,
I said, I got to fixthis right, Yeah, because that's
so you know that song he wassinging about the Vietnam War. You know
me because you know I was comingup. I was, I was trying

(34:50):
to get over there. Could Ithought I was such a bad ass when
I was coming up. I wastrying to get over there. But heat
this clear water and him Bro,Yeah, I'm glad you only had to
deal with that for fifteen seconds ofme saying instead of yeah, it's not
Bill Walton, God rest his soul, but it was John Fogerty's seventy ninth
birthday yesterday. So thank goodness youwere able to like what Okay, thank

(35:14):
goodness, he's okay. We appreciateyou, MANE appreciate you. Can thank
you. Yeah, thank you allright, Danny appreciate it. I'd like
I'd like to be a remote anda text line is something that we would
love to. Yeah, give megive us a remote at a nice breakfast
spot, a nice uh you know, sausage and egg and cheese bagel,
salt, pepper, ketchup or whateverthe New york The put some hot,

(35:37):
hot sauce on it. Okay,I'll pass on the ketchup on a sausage,
egg and cheese bagel. Why notketchup. Ketchup doesn't belong there on
that one New Yorkers. Okay,Well tell that to Tell that to a
Chicago dog and they'll tell you wedon't put ketchup on dog. I do,
okay, but I don't put iton a sausage, egg and cheese

(35:59):
bagel, bacon, egg and cheesewith salt, salt, salt, ketchup,
pepper or whatever it is, salt, salt, pepper and ketchup.
Is it? Is that what you'resaying. I don't put ketchup on a
sausage, egg and cheese or bacon, egg and cheese like that. This
is the whatever the New Yorkers eating. That's where you're going. Yeah,
That's where I'm going. Okay,I got you. We're also going to
break next. Let the celebration start. War Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean

(36:22):
Salisbury show. He tossed six innings, four hits, gave up just one
run, struck out nine eighty sevenpitches, and he was asked after the
game if he could have gone anotherinning. This is what Brown had to
say. That's obviously you know alittle bit about my pay grade, you

(36:43):
know, Joe. Joe came outto me say a good job, and
that was that short and sweet.But just from the sounds of it,
even though it was just a shortclip, I think Hunter Brown wanted to
go another inning. And that's oneof the first things you said is we
started the show this morning at sixo'clock, eighty seven pitches going good good?
Why pull him out because some analytics, analytics told you to. Yeah,

(37:07):
yeah, Well, sometimes analytics suckass. How's that? I agree
with you, man, Sometimes yougotta have you know what understo the room
and that guy going like that withconfidence building, don't you want the long
term effect of his performance matters aswell, don't you agree? Yeah?

(37:28):
So let's let's see here. Sohe faced he faced Rojas, Rodriguez and
cal Rawley, and he went threeup, three down in that last thing.
Let me double check that if I'mif I'm Hunter Brown, i'd be
frustrated too, because you want Yeah, because of bra you came in for
the second right, you want toand I know the argument, well,

(37:52):
we got to bray you sometimes,well good, but you got Hunter Brown
going good. I've just understood what'sthe threshold? Eighty seven pitches too much,
so Rojas? So he faced Roehot. No, it's not too
much to your question, Rojas,Rodriguez Raley, you just got through the
heart of the You just got throughtheir two hole or three hole in their
in their cleanup hitter. You hadRayleigh France and can Zone and they're all

(38:16):
over. I just I mean,there's a psychological part that goes along with
what happens the rest of the year. Okay, So like his answered,
but my pig grade Joseph, goodjob and didn't even didn't even ask them
if you want to stay in tome, I don't think that. I
think you can handle better. AndI know you've got to bring you there,
right, But my question is youlook at you let him stay in

(38:38):
for the two hole, the threehole, in the four hole, but
yeah, you don't let him goback out at eighty seven pitches to face
what's five, six, and seven? Because so I'm thinking, like analytic
wise, what did it show allbecause like third or four times through the
lineup. Well, you let himface the two the probably the three best
hitters, but yet you don't lethim go back out. So what of

(38:59):
the end? Let him tell youor it was that the fuel that The
thing for me is so just becauserarely struck out four times, he was
over four with four strikeouts. Go. I don't have an answer for you
other than I think we're too cute, not here but around baseball, but
speaking for this this team, Ithink analytics sometimes are overboard, and I

(39:22):
think you get a little too cute. And basically what you're telling me when
you do that is we don't trustwhat you've done early in the season.
So today's game, I mean heposted last night and whether it would have
had a difference in the game ornot, I don't know. I know
this, Okay, let me askyou this. So that was Verlander.

(39:43):
Does he get another inning? Probablyyes? So why because he's younger?
Don't isn't this where you find outabout what a guy's how were they're dangling?
And he was that was his bestperformance of the year last night?
Yeah, it was? It was, And I know people are because you
got to brak you bray you early. Now a Brave's becoming a bray you
again. But the point is isthat sometimes for the player himself and the

(40:07):
teammates watch and goes say, youknow what, roll back out there,
Let's give him seventh thing. Hewalks the first batter, get him out.
He was going good. I didn'tThat's why I told you at the
beginning an opening segment. I don'tknow why you had to do it that.
I don't know, but I'm that'sthe manager and it's above my pay
grade too. But it didn't soundlike Hunter Brown was overly enthusiastic about the
decision, just from my listening tothe clip. But impressive performance by him

(40:31):
last year. It wasn't impressive,but I thought he deserved another inning.
Yeah whatever that means. Yeah,he'd earned it right and a brain you
came in and got his job done, and then Ryan Presley didn't. But
who knows, could be different,could have been different. So what happens
if he goes seven, a bravegoes eight and hater goes nine. Yeah,
what happens if that's the case andyou just in and Pressley doesn't get
a round? I don't know.There's a lot of what IFFs, But
yeah, and you know, it'swhen you make the decision, you got

(40:53):
to live with it, which Irespect and I respect Joe, but I
thought Hunter Brown was going good enoughto warrant at least coming out for seventh
inning. And we've got some audiofrom Joe Spotty. He spoke about Hunter
Browns outing. We'll discuss the nextas we get into the seven o'clock hour
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Houston. Okay, let's do us. Sean Salisbury The USC Truth, longtime
friend shown Salisbury, Ryan Lima,go Lobo. This is the Sean Salsbury
Show. The Astros fell to theMariners last night, four to two.
That eighth inning was rough. Yougot to brak you not being able to

(43:21):
field a ground ball. Alex Bregmanwith an air on your Diaz with a
pass ball that cost the Astros arun, which made the deficit to four
to two. They took a twoto one lead into that inning. Ryan
Presley got roughed up. Joe ASpot of the manager spoke about not being
able to fill ground balls after thegame. This is what a spot I
had to say. No, that'sa that's a really tough play. That's

(43:44):
a bowl heat art down the line, the one Bregman. You know he's
going in contact. That's a toughplay. You know. We our first
option is to try to get theguy to play. Once there's no play
there, We try to get theguy at first, but you know he's
soft enough for for for the playto a work. That's Joe a Spot
and that ball that was hit toBregman UH sixty point six miles per hour

(44:06):
off the bat Jose Bray, youthat ball hit to him ninety five point
seven miles per hour with a twohundred expected batting average. So your point,
I understand, Oh yeah, abetter defense. I was gonna say,
like, you know what you're saying. I understand that Miles Prower act

(44:27):
of velocity all that stuff. Butuh, and they may be tough plays,
but you're a big leader. Makethe damn play. And when Dana
Brown comes on, but one ofhis top sayings here when he comes on
is field the baseball. Correct,catch the baseball, catch the baseball,
Yeah, which means play good defense. Yeah. Another thing. Still no
updates on Christiannaviera, Jose or Keaty. They got imaging done yesterday. You

(44:50):
want, you want my opinion?I may be wrong. Well, the
longer it takes, uh huh theworst. The longer it takes for you
to get an answer. Min Imay be hundred eighty degrees off this,
not three sixty, because that'd takeyou right back to the original strike,
one hundred and eighty degrees away fromthis? Is it for me? At
least in the past When you hearthis, The longer it takes for you

(45:12):
to get an answer. The morethe more I start to wonder or concern
with how long it's going to be, because if it was, if they
were if they were negative, wouldn'tyou announce it to the high heavens so
people could be excited. You'd getthem. We're already started getting them back
to be back sooner than later.And I may be one hundred percent wrong,

(45:32):
but I didn't go in with alot of optimism on either, unfortunately,
especially the Arkidi thing, because nowexpecting him back and then to have
a setback, and then finding outthat it wasn't just mechanics that Javier's beat
up, uh, you know,with his with his forearm that well I
wanted. I'm a glass half fullguy, but I'll be surprised by the

(45:52):
good news. Unlike normally going inI expect good news. I'm prepared for
it just being one of those season. I hope we're one hundred percent wrong,
but I think that the longer itgoes without you knowing, Brian yep,
the more maybe and maybe we'll findout today and hopefully at nine thirty.
Uh, the more I'm concerned aboutit, and I hope that Dana
Brown dispels that and we're completely wrong, and they'll be back pitching in a

(46:14):
week and a half. Yeah,it'll be greater two weeks. You get
asked downtown Dana Brown, Well,of course I am. Why wouldn't if
he if he can't say anything aboutit, then he can say can't talk
about it. Some might say you'rescared. I don't think anybody's ever said
that ever. I can't remember anybodytelling me I'm scared of any I mean
tripley. Didn't he say he wasscared himself? Like, didn't didn't he

(46:36):
say last week? All right,John, you said that? Yeah,
I did say that they're not evergoing to hear those come out of that?
He said, Man, I wasscared. No, yeah, I
was petrified. That's never come out. Never live without you by my side?
Yeah? No, what is it? Old school seventies? Cut I
divide? Yeah, it hit adog. I'm good. I've good.
You're saying you're a baller? Arethe kids still saying that? Triple a

(47:00):
resident streets insider Emmanuel Elmore, peopledo or the kids? People? Everybody?
Okay? Yeah, And I thinkthat when people say they'd rather be
a baller than the shot caller,what would you rather be a baller?
It would I don't want to bethe shot caller. I don't want to
be like that's like a VP statusmanager tie. I don't want to be
that. You can influence, youcan put people in position to be successful.

(47:21):
In the rest of it. Theballer is you're you're still waiting for
the guy to tell you how togo be a baller. If you're the
shot caller, you don't be aballer. But if you know you're a
baller, then you don't have toworry, right, and you can have
a good relationship with these shot callers. But if you're a baller, if
you're a caller, you're already Yeah, if you're a baller, if you're
the shot caller, you've done aball done ben baller. Yeah, I
agree. So you can you canpave the road for those who want to

(47:42):
be a baller. Or some mightsay you'd rather stay on the unpaved road.
Well that's okay. You can haveballers and shot callers on the unpaved
road. You could that being said, No, you'll never hear the words
come out of my mouth. I'mscared. I don't know. I think
tripley I think tripley correct me ifI'm wrong. Didn't he didn't he say
himself? I confirm? Oh no, you better deny because if you if
you didn't hear it, see whatthat It ain't ever come out of my

(48:06):
mouth? Oh never. I don'tknow, man, we got the table,
roll it back on. Yeah,please you find matter of fact,
if you find that. If youfind that, I'll I'll get up and
walk away. Are you done?Where are you going? Though? To
another station? Okay? Now I'mnot going anywhere, dude, I'm here.
I'm a lifer, a lifer.I'm not our team. Yeah no,

(48:29):
I you know you'll never find that. Those words never call in my
mouth. And if they and ifI was afraid of something, guess what,
you're not gonna know. Yeah.I'm never let him see me sweat.
That's not happening. I've seen yousweat before though, yeah, oh
yeah, profusely. But it ain'tbecause I was scared. I can tell
you that, all right, fourfoot putt with a thousand dollars on the

(48:49):
l, a little dirve rack,that's what I damn scared. I'll putt
it, but damn I'm not feelingreally comfortable about its figure right the left
swinger. Yeah what I mean?Oh thanks Steve, welcome in. You
know, guys, I think we'reseeing the demise of this this baseball team.
And you know, I'm I knowthat Jim Crane has made some investments
that excuse me, it didn't makemoney and he had to cut his losses.

(49:14):
And I'm hoping that he's finally startingto see the the the demise of
this uh bray you and just cutshis losses. I know it's a lot
of money, but he's got it. He's making good money. But you
know, the whole idea of anyany professional sports or any team is to
put the best team on the field. It gives you the best chance to

(49:37):
win. The two people right nowthat are not giving us a good chance
is a bray you and Breman.And there's no reason why Breckman can't sit
his butt on the on the onthe on the bench for a while and
think it over because uh yeah,he's he but he fell into a home
run last night, thank god,finally, but he's not playing. This

(50:00):
is a contract here for this guy, and right now, every time he
goes to bat, he's losing money. So I can't even imagine the Astros
even offering him a contract or aperformance that he's been putting out there.
And if I hear Dana Brown say, well, we like what we see
in in uh in a bray youand we just got to give him some

(50:21):
time, you know what, We'reout of time. Put Singleton back in,
have a break, you come out, and that for just I don't
know if you, I don't knowwho he bets guests the best around,
right handed or left handed, becauseto me, sucks at both of them.
And I'll hang up and listen.Than Steve, Yeah, Steve has

(50:42):
had it. I get it aslong as long as Jose Brady was comfortable
in those that bats last. Thinkabout this for a second, and see,
I get I get Steve, AndI'm kind of meaning this little trying
to add a little little smile toyour face, but I'm also trying to
add a little reality too. Whowas one of the hotter hitters in the
postseason for the Astros last year?Go ahead, say his name? Hear

(51:06):
me out though his name? Didthey get the World Series? No?
Well? That pitching, yeah,it's timely hitting right, Yeah, So
I'll just put it to you thisway. The first base position as it
is constructed right now is not goingto be the difference in whether this team
wins World Chais or not. Nowit's easy, it's easy fodder for us,

(51:28):
right and Steve, listen, onething you do know, a brave
this is his he's on his lastone hundred and six games here. He's
not coming back next year or whateverthe postseason after that this year. But
the truth of the matter is,it's going to take more than a braid.
Any tied Bregman and Bregman is goingto have to play better. Now,
if you said one can struggle mightilyand still play and the other one

(51:52):
can't struggle midily and still play,which one you choose in you're chudg in
the first base position, I'll dealwith. I need Bregman to get Bregman
half right. There no doubt,it's impossible for everybody and every on any
championship team to be playing great baseball. And you just look at a Bray
who's numbers at the end last yearwas really good in the postseason and they
didn't get to the World Series.So you got to pitch, you gotta

(52:13):
play defense, you got to haveyour stars come up big, and then
every now and then one of thoseguys, it's not a star, rears
like a pain, your rookie winningthe Most Valuable Player, that guy rears
his head. So I'm with Stevethe frustration. But one thing we're going
to have to probably guard against iscontinuing to point to the first base situation
saying that's the reason we're not winning. Although John Singleton should be playing more,

(52:36):
and I don't even care if itwas low Perfido coming back up playing
first base, a bray who's gota lot to prove to prove now to
himself to to say that he belongsgetting most run at that position. Agreed.
So Steve's right the frustration, andit just hasn't quite worked out the
way that they'd wanted to when theybrought him here, which if they had
to do it over again, there'sno way you do it. He's about
a seven or eight million dollar playerat the most, and that's from history.

(52:58):
His performance says he's not on aroster. Jose Brady, he's got
another year under contract. He's notcoming back. You think he's done after
trying. I don't see. Idon't see how they bring him back.
I don't. I know, he'sgot another year, right, I see
how if it continues like this?Now here's the teaser. Haw's another They
get to the postseason plays like hedid last year, that will tease them

(53:20):
just enough to say, let's seeif he can try it again, and
if you get the slow start willbe it'll be groundhog Day. Yeah.
I know who's pushing that. It'llbe Jeff Bagwell, there you go.
I can't, I cannot, Icannot fathom. I see people are talking
about now a third year. Tome, you'd have to crawl ten miles
over broken glass to bring him backhere. Yeah, and it's not just
him, but there's gonna be otherreasons if this team doesn't make it,

(53:42):
other reasons why it won't just bethe first base position or the decision made
there, because there's there's some thingsgoing on. But it'd be nice to
have your first base power position providejust that. Yeah, and Singleton earned
the right to run out there more. Yeah, I just did. Yeah.
Well, just like we talked aboutit just a couple of days ago
before the Memorial Day holiday, hWoodjose Brady being the lineup, and both

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of us said yes, and herehere he is right back in the lineup
two straight days, right, yep, and he'll be there, be there
again today, power hitter. Yeah, that's what I heard on the broadcast
last night. Unserious. That isjust an unserious And it's such a bummer
because I like the guy. Ithink he's a good teammate. I do.
I say that often, but yeah, but performance says he can't be

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out there. I'm sure you hadteammates in your career that were great guys
that just struggled their ass off.Oh and not only great guys, but
net probably probably should have been holdingtheir helmet on the sideline. Yeah,
yeah, no doubt. And mostof the time if they they were,
there's not a whole lot of buddybuddy going. I mean, when it's
time, you're playing your best elevenor you're doing it right, and they

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owe it to the fans and totheir the rather players to play their best
nine. And I don't think whenhe's in that lineup that that's their best
nine right now. It's not.I think it's pretty odd, and I'm
being a bit. I mean,obviously we know that. So we'll see
seven, one, three, twopoint two five, seven. I will
continue to roll on and talk aboutthe Houston Astros, but first let's get
to the steakout next at Sports Talkseven ninety, the Houston Sports World.

(55:12):
Yeah, Sean Salisbury knows how toplay the game because he really played the
game. Yep, former prol QBright here. He actually has it on
his name tag former pro QB righthere. Back to Sean on Sports Talk
seven ninety. All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

(55:35):
The Salisbury stakeout? Salisbury takeout onthe Sean Salisbury Show. All right,
it's time for the steakout here onthe Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Brown
and Triple Lee. Astros fell tothe Mariners the back of action tonight eight
forty the first pitch seven thirty onDeck Show right here on seven nine,
your home for Astros Baseball GM.Dana Brown gonna show us at nine thirty

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over get to the stake out.It's doctor Ronnie at seven seven ninety.
Ronnie, what's going on? Goodmorning, gentlemen. I got three quick
things I want you to kick aroundat some point today. Number One,
I don't like fully guaranteed contracts,and I don't know why baseball and basketball
allowed themselves to get sucked into thatmode. Ronnie. I'll answer them for

(56:22):
you right now. Let me kickthat around for you, your hose brother.
They ain't never going back in thosetwo sports, and you and I
I know it. I know it. Yeah, yeah, I just you
know, I get it. It'slike it's crazy. I mean, Nico
Collins had a great contract. It'sgood for him, it's good for the
Texans, I think, you know, and if he lives up to it,
fantastic. Yeah, whatever happen.The day have you performed, you

(56:43):
get paid more. And it's likea shoe deal, you know, does
the shoe coupies get competitives like you'repaying you five million bucks to wear a
shoe that you'd have to wear toplay basketball anyway, Well, because somebody
else creates competition. But I'm withyou, brother, h football has gotten
a little closer, But you're nevergoing to get fully guaranteed contract for the
most part, unless it's a quarterbackonce in a while. That's that's what
and that's it's tough to do.So I hear you. Okay, the

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other two things I don't understand,you know, I've never understood and it
is the first time I really heardyou launch on it. Uh. The
pitch count for Dana, for Brown, any pitch count, And I don't
know. Pitchers are still getting notjust the Astros. Pitchers are still getting
hurt. So don't limit their pitchcount. If the guy's throwing, well,

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they're not getting hurt by the numberof pitches they throw. They're getting
hurt because of the types of pitchesthey throw and the stress they put on
their body. Number Three, Idon't understand, and this is Brian.
Maybe you can figure this out withall your analytic driven stuff. Why the
Astros take so many call first strikesand so many call third strikes? Do

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they take more strikes than other teamsdo? Because and in sparks and Ford
will say, oh, well,they didn't need to swing at that pitch.
They couldn't hit it anyway. Well, if it's in the strike zone,
you've got to be ready to swingat it. I don't you know.
And I don't swing for the fencesif you have to do something just
to make contact. And a guyI'd like for you to get on your

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show, Sean if he's still alive, because he had a great theory on
hitting Phil Garner. Talk to Garnerabout guests hitting as opposed to preparing just
to hit the baseball. Yep,and I scrap iron is still alive and
I'd love to have I love PhilGarner and tough as it gets, well,
toughest scrap iron. Okay, thankyou, Ronnie. We appreciate it,

(58:36):
all, appreciate it. Yeah,thanks you too. I can tell
you this, and Brian, youknow this that you've been on with me.
I despise pitch counts and pitch Ican't stand it. And I understand
that there's the optic, I meanthe analytics ago when he hits the ninety
count, not just a Brown butanybody. But you know what, sometimes
when Nolan Ryan, I know it'schanged the way we train him, but
maybe we can start Just because we'vechanged to this doesn't mean you can't change

(58:59):
back a little bit and start traininghim to go a little longer. Hunter
Brown can pitch. The ball's notheavy, and he's young, and he
doesn't waste a lot of motion onhis mechanics. You could extended him to
one hundred pitches and it's exactly right. You could see with the naked eye
when a guy starts to labor.There was no labor going on with him
last night. So Ronnie, Idespise for the most part. I know
it kicks in sometimes. Guy comingout of an injury. I can't stand

(59:22):
the pitch counter. I just likethrow it on the ground and put my
cleat on it and get rid ofit. I hate it, but I
know that's what we get. Justlike I'm not high five and a hero
for four and two thirds innings asa starter. I'm just not. I'm
sorry. Heay, great, youhelped us. You didn't get your win,
but you got to the four andtwo thirds, you get the five
and a third, you get thewin. Great, awesome, But I

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need more than seventy five pitches infive innings or eighty pitches in five innings.
And I know sometimes that changes dependingon the situation. But for me,
I'm not carrying you off and throwinga parade for a guy because we've
switched in baseball that you give fiveinnings and man, what a warrior.
And it's not a lot of timeson the pitcher, it's on the people
come out and get him. Right. I thought Hunter Brown pitched a hell

(01:00:05):
of a game last night and whetherit would have had a difference in the
ending, I don't know, ButI don't know where the threshold is that
tells you, man eighty seven pitches, where you saw that. I didn't
that Hunter Brown should be taken outof the game last night, but I
see it every day in all baseball. We get to the point six innings
and you're a hero, and tome, I think that you're just not.

(01:00:27):
I think that there's an O missingfrom the hero and or the the
R and the O from a herowhen so it's he, Yeah, you're
there, You're he got the Rand the O. You feel me?
Yeah, I feel you. SoI can't stand pitch the pitch count.
I just as far as like swingingat first pitch strikes that Ronnie was talking
about, I'm always the guy thatlikes to to look at first pitch fastballs.

(01:00:52):
But I think that not just astros, but big league hitters are so
good, even guys that are hittingtwo fifty, like, there's still the
top level, right, there's suchgood hitters that taking a first pitch fastball
is probably not in their pitch sequencein their head as far as it is
for a hitter. And I'm surethat they have studied and looked at different

(01:01:12):
pitch sequences from the pitcher that they'refacing, So most of the time they're
probably not looking for that type ofpitch, even though I would like to
see more hacks at first pitch,but then again, it's just so analytically
drivening you're not going to see that. And it's changed over the years.
I don't know about you, Brian, but for me, I was a
first pitch hacking fastball. I washunting them all the time because I figure

(01:01:37):
we're on even ground. Now youget ahead in the count. Now I'm
at a disadvantage because now I gotto think three pitches are two pitches supposed
to And I as a pitcher evengrowing up, and I know it changes
because you don't want them to think, but what is what is psychologically on
your mind getting ahead in the count? Right? And usually if you throw
hard in a fastball guy, youdon't want to throw it right down the

(01:01:58):
middle, but you try to placeit because well, if he is going
to hack on first pitch, i'dlike to have him hack at a ball
out of the strike or that's paintin the black. So I get it
from both, but I listen,I'm sitting fastball if there's one of the
strike zone. I love all twovase approach I do, and he'll hack
out of it. I like beingaggressive because I don't want the pitcher to
dictate the sequencing of the pitch,and I'd like to do that. And

(01:02:21):
it seems to me now maybe it'schanged over the years that with guys getting
ahead and the count, the psychologicalaspect says and a lot of guys will
throw off speed pitches for strikes.I get it, but I would I'm
a My personality always says, hackaway if it's if it's a fastball on
the strike zone. Yeah, itjust it's always been that way. So
whatever their's and these hitters are sogood, you're right that they can adjust

(01:02:42):
him. Some good two strike hitters, But I always like having the advantage
and the leg up on a pitcheralways half. Yeah. Same, But
then you also get into the habitof labeling guys's free swingers, like what
we're seeing with you on your dashe hacks it for the multipart damn near
everything. And yeah, but theproblem is he's hacking it pitches that aren't
fastballs. Over to play Yeah,that's what I'm saying. He has everything
exactly, so then you then pitchersstart to figure it out a little bit

(01:03:05):
Basier said for us up here rightdown there, But even my personality says,
if it's close on first pitch andit's a fastball, yeah, I'm
gonna let it rip, just becauseif you run into one or there's something.
Now, you gotta be a smarthitter. You're not going to chase
everything out of it. But Ijust think that psychologically, especially young pitchers
trying to get ahead in the count, I would think that they would lean
towards and listen. If you thatgoes back to the analytics. If you're

(01:03:29):
studying pitchers and you're a hitter anda guy likes a throw eighty percent off
speed pitch first pitch, then andthen he pumps the fastball in there,
I get why you'd take it.So that goes with the individual study of
every pitcher being a student of thegame saying he's a seventy five percent cutter
or a seventy five percent slider onfirst pitch, Well, then then if
maybe you got to sit slider andhope that he throws you the slider that

(01:03:52):
you can sit on it and layoff it. So that's part of it
to you. If you're a guesthitter, you're not going to be very
successful most of the time. Right, continue to talk about these Houston astros.
Where are the updates on Christian Javierand Jose Erkidi will discuss that next
right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. But also those storms came through with
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(01:06:08):
extend wide receiver Nago calls to athree year deal. Seven seven ninety the
number to join Doctor Ray Ray,thanks for holding good morning. Yes,
sir, I've been an Astros fansince nineteen sixty two, the very first
game. I've either read about thegame when I lived out of town in

(01:06:29):
the Sporting News, listened to themon the radio, or went to a
game. So I've heard or orbeen present at maybe sixty five seventy percent
of the games. And I reallyliked your your call about taking the picture
out last night, and you werecompletely accurate with the with the language.

(01:06:51):
It sucked, ass. It lostus a ballgame. And I would like
the stats on Presley how many gameshe screwed up this year. So if
you're trying to go with metrics,you went with the wrong guy. I'm
totally disgusted with this team. Ithink that the two managers of this team,

(01:07:14):
Dana Brown and Joe Aspata, Idon't have anything good to say about
either one of them. A Spotareminds me of a guy that makes a
change just for making a change.We had a guy back in the early
seventies, nineteen seventy two, Ithink his name was Preston Gomez. He

(01:07:35):
pulled a picture out of a gamethat had a no hitter going and lost
it two to one. Do youhear me? Give me a chance to
finish one? And I mean,it's just, you know what, I'm
so frustrated with this team that Ihave to turn it. I have to

(01:07:58):
turn the games off. What isyour ray? What is your biggest frustration
right now with the Astros? Mybiggest frustration with the Astros is with the
management of the team, where itseems like our manager and you mentioned this,
I really like your comments. Youwork real hard. I know you're

(01:08:18):
a football player, but man,you work really hard to keep up with
the other sports and I appreciate it. Well, y know, it's crazy
is that I was a football player, but I'm bigger baseball and basketball,
and I don't take that compliment lightly. It means a lot. So baseball
actually comes easier in basketball than footballfor me. But I just said that
just happened to be what I did. But it's not my first love.

(01:08:40):
But that's a high compliment and thatmatters to me. The same way.
When I played in high school andI had some injuries, I had big
time scholarship offers, and I screwedup a shoulder and a knee and I
couldn't play. I'm seventy one yearsold. But bottom line is, my
first love was always baseball. Istarted going to baseball games with my dad
when I was two years old,and baseball has just always been my favorite

(01:09:06):
game. People tell me it's aslow game. I will tell you it's
because they don't understand the game,and you know they If you're trying to
make baseball fans out of some people, you're not going to do it.
Not everybody's set out to be abaseball fan, but you have to understand
the game. But our team righthere, when you make changes just to

(01:09:30):
make changes, it doesn't It didn'ttake a rocket science is to know that
you've got to get a bray youout of here. When a guy was
hitting under one hundred in the majorleagues, and you're paying him nineteen or
twenty million dollars a year. Thoseare also statistics of the game, and
that statistics says he's got to go. I don't care if you've made a

(01:09:54):
bad decision, he's got to go. Yep, ray, thank you very
much. And people do hey,and sometimes you hit on them, and
sometimes you don't. Meaning great decisions, and sometimes you miss on them.
And that's a lot of money tobe paying somebody who's hitting just a little
over one hundred. So I getit, and thank you for the great
compliment. Don't take it lightly.Appreciate your brother. Thank you. S
Talk to Bonnie Joe, Bonnie Joe, good morning, Good morning guys.

(01:10:17):
You know I never get a chanceto call. I just the time of
day. I listen. My husbandand I both wherever we are, we
listen every morning. We've been listeningto seven ninety forever and ever, and
I never have time to call y'all'sshow. Anyway, I'm not going to
talk about sports today. I'm goingto get through this quickly. I just
was calling to thank y'all for thegreat job y'all do. The reason I

(01:10:41):
mean, I love y'all's show anyway, But the dynamics between all three of
you is like incredible. But itcracks me up whenever Sean talks about a
movie that Brian's never seen, itis a movie that I feel like everybody
in the world should have seen.Amen, body, Joe, Joe,
You're not doing me any favors rightnow. No, no, no,

(01:11:01):
I'm about to. I'm about toSean all of you. Both of you
have a great sports acumen on everything. But I like how, you know,
since Brian actually played, you know, baseball, I think my understanding
that's correct. Okay, Okay atSaul Ross, of course, there you

(01:11:25):
go. I know, yeah,poor poor Shawn had to go to that
other school because they wouldn't take hima great great I'm still yeah, it
makes sense, yes, okay.I just wanted to And then you,
Sean, you do a great jobwith with Dana Brown when he comes on.
I like the questions you ask himand that you stick with you know,

(01:11:45):
you don't you don't try to justlike play to him. You to
questions that people want to know.And I just I loved y'all show though,
I get a kick out of it. I'm i call Matt Thomas' show
and I used to call in theshow. And anyway, I just love
listening to y'all. Bonnie Joe,appreciate you before you go, and we

(01:12:06):
joke around a lot. That does. That means a lot to us.
I think I speak for both Brianand Tripoli as well, and it matters
that we get this call from youto us and I thank you for it.
And I are you doing anything inyour pr world that you'd like us
to hire you full time? Don'ttell everybody in the world that we would
love it. I'd be happy togo around and provoke y'all. I'd be

(01:12:28):
great at that. Well, you'reawesome. Yes, it all comes,
it comes. It comes from myheart. Now. The one thing y'all
aren't gonna like about me is Iam the biggest Dallas Cowboy fan in the
world. I am sixty two yearsold. I've been advanced since I was
five and a half or six.Good. We need you on here to
offset some of the Texas hell.Yes, that's okay. We always accepted
that's all right. But anyway,I'll let you go. I know you

(01:12:49):
have other callers and things to getto. Bonnie Joe what chance. What
is your husband? What is yourhusband's name? Well, his name is
Paul, and he's a man maturefor h g D. I'm retired,
but yeah, he'll love it everyday to make money for us. You
guys are awesome. Ye, tellPaul thank you for allowing to allowing us
to steal your time and all thosegood compliments. He's if he's anything like

(01:13:14):
you, that's the hell of arelationship. You guys got so thank you.
Bet he's better than me, actuallymuch better. Awesome, Bonnie Joe,
Thank you call again when you can. Thanks and tell your good husband
we said hello. Absolutely awesome,Thank you, Bonnie Joe. I got
it. What was her venomo again? Man, dude? That the center
of it? No, that wasa great come. Did you hire her?
Is that your planner? That's yourann? Isn't it a good Southern

(01:13:39):
Bonnie Joe? Bonnie Joe, dammit, what a what a what a good
woman she is? Yeah? Takethat all day. Matter of fact,
I don't want to take any morecalls because I wanted to that. No,
No, we got our guy dominant. We got it. Yeah,
we get the best. We gotthe best in the planet. Yeah,
it's always nice to hear that atseven forty four in the morning coming off

(01:13:59):
Astros lost. Bonnie Joe, thankyou, that's fun. We love the
chemistry here, and like I said, I've been doing this a long time.
These guys are a little younger atit, but really good at it.
This is as This is as muchfun and informing and coming to work
that I've ever had. And that'sa that's that's saying something. So I've
been with some good people a longway, but nobody better than the two
I'm with now. So I'm talkingabout So don't screw it up. I'm

(01:14:23):
ready to shut the show down rightnow. Triple E. Better mind your
p's and q's. I'll call forthe right hander. We got great group,
but it's pleasure and we got suchgreat fans and listeners up there,
So thank you, Bonnie Joe.That was nice seven seven ninety. We
will continue to take your calls aswe discussed the Astros and that frustrating loss

(01:14:44):
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(01:16:35):
job triple couz man, I takewhere's out? Ben? Dude Dow on
the south Side? Hello you there? I think Al's a little frustrated and
what's going on? Man? Hedoes he wanted? Probably he doesn't frustrate
with them astros the last couple ofdays. How you think Dominic feels.
We haven't heard from Dominic in acouple of Dom's gonna get some good but
also gonna have some some I justman, he hung up. Damn,

(01:16:59):
m there he is. Let's getit. I got a triple dominic.
You there. Yeah, I madea mistake and hit the button. By
mistake. That's all right, don'tdo it again. Thank you. What's
happening? How y'all doing? Man? Callers? Your callers this morning helped
pretty much like stole all my thunder, but I'm gonna go with it anyway.
You had one caller, the gentlemanwas talking about the bunting process and

(01:17:23):
the lack thereof, and you hadBunny Joe who came in and we're actually
going to give you guys kudos,like what gave you guys kudos, which
was what I was going to do. And they need to have another caller
that was talking about Danny Brown andmister Spotder as far as the two managers
of the team, I really,Shaun Bryant, I don't think that.
I don't really think this is DannyBrown. I call your show and I

(01:17:45):
have my feelings about when he comeson the show, and I feel like
he'd be trying to sell sell theHouston fans or something that's not real.
But to me, I'm looking atJeff Bagwell, and I'm also looking at
dollars and cents. Singleton is thebest defense, best defensive first basement that
we have. So why was hetaken out of the game? Why was

(01:18:05):
he taken off off off of thefield to pope for for for a bred?
You the contract? Who wanted thatcontract? Who who advocated for for
for a brad? You're being here, Jeff Bagwell. Now, let's be
fair. We all thought we wasgonna get the Jose Braider of the Chicago
White Sox. That's not what we'vegotten. We've gotten the very very quickly

(01:18:25):
declining player. But Jeff Bagwell hasbeat this drum time and time again.
Just wait, just wait, justwait. Daner Brown comes on with the
back of the baseball car. Baitbaseball excuse me, the back of the
baseball car. That's the same thingas just wait, just wait, just
wait. Personally, guys, Ithink there's two in the chiefs and not
enough Indians. I think the owner, mister Crane, the city loves you

(01:18:47):
for what you've done. But we'retalking about currently right now. Unless you're
gonna play the Oakland athletics every otherweek. You're not catching in the ground
with the Seattle managers, they're justa flat out better baseball team. But
they it would be a flat outbetter baseballs than in my mind, because
we do have speed, and wedo have power, and we have experience.
So what's missing here a manager?I just personally and I said this

(01:19:11):
every time I call your show,and I can't wait for college football season
and start starting to have something elseto talk about. But I just don't
feel that Joey Spotter is the rightman for this group. I feel like
he was a safe hire. Ifeel like he was the guy that everybody
likes, everybody was comfortable with.I feel like the hirer a process,
was a joke, was a scam, and I just don't feel like he
was the right guy for the job. Sometimes you need guys who is going

(01:19:33):
to make you un comfortable. Youneed God's situation people period that's going to
make you un comfortable. Sometimes makeyou un comfortable makes you better. Mis
Baker made people uncomfortable. A J. Hinch for the for the most part,
he wasn't he was a players manager, But at the same time,
he made the right decisions at theright time. I just don't think Joey's
Spott is the right guy for thisjob. I think Dan Brown, honestly,

(01:19:56):
I'm going to give him some grace. I think his hands are tied.
I really truly do. Because yougot this first basement with this this
ridiculous contract that doesn't expire this year, it goes into next season. So
if you sit in, you getmoney going out the window. No one's
gonna trade for him, so you'renot gonna get any value for him.
Then with our third baseman. I'msorry, guys, I'm I'm so sorry.

(01:20:19):
Love his commercials, he has beena part of this run. Will
always have love for Bringer, forSpringer, for Korea, uh uh,
for Dallas, Caico, and soon and so on. Those the guys
who built the foundation of this amazingrun that think heast Nationals have been on.
We all love those guys, Buta braid you should not break.
Excuse me, Jose Brod, youshould not be playing. John Singleton should

(01:20:41):
be at first base. And wealso need to look at what we can
get for Alex Bregnant. Unless we'regonna play the Oakland Athletics every other week,
we're not gonna make any We're notgonna We're basically a cat chasing this
tail around a dog, a hamsteron the wheel. You know what I'm
trying to say. And as faras your show was concerned that that that
that beautiful lady who just gave youguys all that kudos, it's the truth,

(01:21:02):
fellas, It's the honest of Godtruth. And I tell you my
own way that you guys are likemy morning coffee. I lively. And
you had another caller who's like,when you got are going to go location?
Sean Bryant, h your producer cannotwait to meet you guys, because
you guys don't come across arrogant.You guys don't come across like we're on
the radio. We're in media.We you know, look at us.

(01:21:24):
You know you got to listen towhat we say. We're the smartest guys
in the room. You guys comeacross as honestly and truly sit down with
a steak, whiskey, beer,cigarette, whatever, and let's shoot the
blanket blank with each other and let'shave a good time. God bless you
guys for your show. You haveno idea, honestly and truly, And
she brought up Indy Kalu him too. Love you guys have no idea what

(01:21:45):
you guys bring to some of uswho actually listen to your program for more
than sports, but as an escapefor all the things. God bless you
guys. Continue doing the great workthat you're doing. And I just don't
think that Joey is spotted is theright guy for the job. Dominic.
Thanks, well, let's talk baseballat the top of the hour about because
I got some things I want torespond to him. Sometimes disrupting the apple
cart's a good thing, and Ithink it would have been a good thing

(01:22:06):
here. Then we'll get to that. But as far as who we are,
I can assure you, Dominic,when you meet us, you won't
find any air agains. A matterof fact, you'll find bigger whack jobs
than you think we are the radio. Okay, you ain't. A matter
of fact, even even more sothe other way. We do care,
so thank you and we look forwardto that. It's a nice compliment.
All right, Let's get into theeight o'clock hour seven one, three,
two, two five seven. Iwill continue to take your calls, and

(01:22:28):
let's let's look back into a HunterBrown's performance from last night. That's next
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Old Baby Houston. Okay, let'sdo this. Sean Salisbury usc Truth,
longtime friend, Sewn Salisbury, RyanLon Lima, go Lobos. This is
the Sean Salsbury Show. Astro's falllast night. Ryan Presley rough eighth inning,

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He gives up three hits, excuseme, three hits, two in
runs, three k's a walk.Briana Bray, you pitched the seventh inning,
struck out to thirteen pitches, nineof those being strikes. Hunder Brown
with a good outing, six innings, four hits, one run, that
being an earned run. He struckout nine eighty seven pitches, fifty seven

(01:23:45):
strikes. He pitched well. BrianBray, you, like I said,
came in and got his job done. And Ryan Presley flat out you just
gotta be better, gotta get yourjob done as well. Seven one three
two, one two five, sevenninety is the or to join Sheena.
Good morning, Good morning, thanksfor chaking my call. A lot of

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good callers today, So I reallyenjoying the show, you know last night.
You know, definitely a hard gameto watch, especially with how much
these games mean right now. Alot of decisions being made that I don't
necessarily agree with, but I understandy'all talked about wanting to see Hunter Brown
go up for another inning. Iagreed. I really wanted to see that,

(01:24:29):
you know, but I understand himbeing taken out. I don't know
how much he's pitched, you know, been stretched out. He's had a
lot of outings where they pull howto pull him early this year, and
you know, taking him out whenyou know he was it was a really
strong outing. Still, maybe helpinghis confidence a little to help with future
starts, and you should be ableto trust her seven eight and nine guys

(01:24:50):
to get the job done. Obviouslythat wasn't the case and that hasn't been
the case this year. But Ithink the bigger issue is you can't expect
to win many baseball games. Ifyou just scored two runs, that's just
not gonna get it done. I'mnot sure we have our best lineup out
there right now. I'd love tosee, you know, yord On back

(01:25:10):
at DH so you can get Doobieand left field and his bat in the
lineup. I think he was hittinglike three seventy five in May. But
uh, you know, a brayyou I don't necessarily agree with him being
in the lineup, but you senthim down to West Palm. You sent
him to make these adjustments. You'vegot to give him the chance to show
if he can cut it or not. And then if he can't cut your

(01:25:30):
losses. So you've got to gethim in there for a few games just
to see what happens, and ratherdo it now than later in the season.
And I don't think him being inthe lineup right now is what caused
the loss last night. Yeah,he didn't look good last night. Singleton
had an O for last night,Tucker had an O for last night,
Penya had an over, Myers hadan over. You know, he was

(01:25:51):
not the only one not hitting,So, you know, just kind of
tough. Tough to figure out whatwe need to do to get this lineup
going offensively. Let me ask youthis, Sheena, have you and you're
such a good point on and we'vementioned it too, and it's been something
a point of contention for us withthis season, is the inability to in

(01:26:14):
games like that, to put,you know, throw against good teams through
a seven or eight spot. You'renot gonna win against good teams on the
road scoring two runs against a teamlike them who can pitch, you just
got you got to scrape it outsomehow, some way. And I know
it's easier from our spot than their, so I get it. But do
you I have ever thought that maybeat times and I know it's still early,
as we say, but we're gonnawhat push the third of the season
here pretty soon, is that maybethis year they're just this is going to

(01:26:40):
be them and they're just gonna haveto find a way to carve out unpaved
stuff, and that it's not goingto be smooth at any point in time
this year, that hitting wise,it's going to be a struggle, because
that's just you know, sometimes ithappens. And now we're going to find
out just how good they are whenthey are struggling mightily and it's not consistent,
you know. And when I saymightily, we're all the phases of

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the game, aren't playing great fortwenty or thirty games, and maybe it'll
happen. But if you thought thatmaybe this is just one of those years
that it's going to be a deepgrind and that we're just gonna have to
gut it out, No, thatvery much has crossed my mind. And
at one point I was like,Okay, you know, our offense isn't
as strong as it was last year, but we're getting you know, r
Kdie back and our pitching back,and now that's not the case anymore.

(01:27:24):
So it's like, you know,it's I think it's going to be a
grind all season. Frankly, Ireally do. I think that's just going
to be how this year goes with, you know, the up and down
of our pitching and that you know, our offense, you know, will
come out and score ten runs onegame and then we'll go five games that
we can barely put two on theboard. So so yeah, I very

(01:27:45):
much feel that's that is how ourseason is going to be, and it's
really going to be a test forthese players on you know, are you
able to grind it out? Youknow, what can you do when you're
putting these tough spots so and rightnow it's you know, it's kind of
hitting this so great point, greatstuff, Sheena, and we appreciate you
call and hang in there. Iguess we're all gonna be in that grind,

(01:28:06):
you know, with them, becauseyou're not going to turn and run
on them because they're still talent.I thought going to the season offensively and
still maybe that they'd be a betteroffense this year because Diaz on a regular
basis that I figured that this lineupwas going to be more explosive offensively,
didn't you overall, and that theyhad a chance to do and they still

(01:28:27):
do. But injuries, there's alot of things that they're gonna have to
deal with. And I asked DanaBrown a month and a half ago,
are you is your team mentally tough? Goes along with what Sheena was saying,
and he said he believes they are. But they're gonna be tests and
we're gonna find out. I thinkthat's gonna be as much test as anybody
hitting balls into the You gotta havetalent. We'll put in the ball where
it needs to go. The mentaltoughness of this season is going to be

(01:28:48):
a grind because I have a hunchthey're going to be chasing the whole season.
That doesn't mean they can't make it, but they it's I don't think
it's going to be smooth saling muchthis year as far as consistency goes.
Losing the first and splitting with theMariners is not going to get you where
you want to go. I mean, I know it'll cut down in the
Al West a bit, but you'restill twenty four and thirty one and you

(01:29:11):
talk about offensively. Well, oneof the big problems is that Jose Aubray
was playing simple as that. Idon't care that he went down to West
Palm. I don't care that hegot some running triple A. Is that
bats? We're terrible in triple A? And yet he is playing automatically right
back in the lineup. Well,we told you that they weren't going to
send him down there and say theywere going down there to get it right

(01:29:32):
and then bring him back to siton the bench. They were going to
try to you got to validate.Yeah, why you put it down the
experiment? Sure, yeah, Iget it. But how long is the
experiment last? That's what That's thequestion that I would love to know it's
deep, but Sheena mentioned it.It's just not going to be a bray
you is going to be the reason. There's other reasons, right. I
think Dominic could mention too that Bregman. Listen, well, you're counting on

(01:29:55):
that guy. He's going to haveto play better baseball regularly and move to
the firefol Look what happened. Yeah, keep him there, Yeah, don't
move him. Yeah, we don'tneed to move him right now. To
keep him there, somebody else,somewhere else, keep him out of the
four hole because he has not beencomfortable swinging about there this year period.
Let's talk to Fred. Fred,welcome in, Hey, what's going on?

(01:30:16):
How you doing? We're great?All right. I just want to
say, well, the one callerwho was talking about you, guys,
I've met him many times. Youknow, I work at with Mac and
go our straight up guys. That'swhy I listen. It's fun to listen
to. My question. Hunter Brownhas been really good these last couple of

(01:30:39):
games. Do you think that Burlandershad something to do with that, went
in and said coaching him up?Do you think he's told him to be
Hunter Brown and not something or not? You know? And Fred, thank
you for the call, and weappreciate you, and you know, Mac
and you guys over there all you'redoing for listening. And I don't know

(01:31:00):
if he did. I know thatif you're Hunter Brown, you're watching everything
Justin Verlander does, right, Andif you're Dustin Verlander, when a Hunter
Brown approaches you, obviously you're goingto give him all the insight you possibly
can. I would imagine they haveconversations fairly regularly, because that's what a
good teammate does and somebody who knowsthat. I don't know if I if

(01:31:21):
idolizes the right word, but thatwas his guy, right. He wanted
to be like Justin Verlander. SoI would imagine Fred that that happens.
Yeah, I would imagine. ButI can tell you this, if this
is the Hunter Brown we're going toget the rest of the year, that's
going to be a great thing,which you saw last night, because that's
who everybody thought he was and is, and that's why he's still in this

(01:31:42):
rotation and he's gotten better, sothat dominant performance. I would imagine Verlander
does have conversations and they talk.I can't imagine with their situation that they
wouldn't same starting staff, same team, all of it young and impressionable.
Yeah, but I love I likehis Brian. He's been tested, and
I like what Hunter Brown's doing rightnow. And with these injuries to Urkidi

(01:32:03):
and Javier that we don't know about, with Garcia and mccullors that you don't
know when you can count on them, Hunter Brown may be as important as
anybody on this staff. Considering wherehe was and us thinking, oh my
gosh, you send him down totriple as you go to the bullpen right
now. No, and the wayhe pitched last night, that is a

(01:32:23):
frontline type starter stuff. I don'tknow if you agree, but I what
I saw last night is the reasonwhy Hunter Brown's held in such high regard.
You get that on a consistent basis, there's a guy that stays in
your rotation if and when some ofthese other guys come back, no doubt,
no doubt have to And he's gottenbetter and better as rough start to

(01:32:44):
the year, but over the lastcouple of starts he's gotten better. I
like that he hasn't wilted. Yeah, and it would be easy to do
for some of the young And whenI say wilted, like, oh,
don't shrink yourself. And what hehas not done, he has not shrinked
himself. And he's actually and hegave a performance last night that you have
to have against the division winning ordivision leading team on the road. He

(01:33:04):
gave them every chance to win lastnight. The bats couldn't come through.
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no no now you know on linefull phone board. Let's get through,
be crisp, respectful of everybody's time. Still a little rapid fire triple,
Let's get that buzzer ready seven onethree, two, one two five seven
niney in order of longest wait.Let's start with biscuit, biscuit, what's

(01:35:16):
happening, young man? Young man? Sean, I'm gonna be consistent,
Sean. It ain't big. Itain't a big enough sample size to throw
to manage out the window nuts itis. It is a big enough sample
size, though, for at leastto start for some of the for somebody
who's been in baseball a long timeand and bisc i' gonna let I want
you. I want to hear therest because you are. You've been consistent

(01:35:39):
with any manager or general manager orplayer that's rolled through here since we've been
talking. But I will ask youthis. When the general manager had told
me on this interview, when Italked to him weekly and asked him about
the learning curve for Joe Aspata,he said, there is there is not
a big one. So when isthat learning curve? I mean, what's

(01:35:59):
big? Is it? Thirty games? Sixty games? When should you be
allowed to fairly either criticize opinions onething, but criticize and say is the
gig too big for him? Whenshould fans be allowed to do that?
I'm shine out like I'm one ofthose people that let's see where the end
is. Let's see what the endgame is you you know what I mean.

(01:36:20):
You know what I mean. That'sthat's me. You know, at
the end of the season we canevaluate and say, hey, a Ben
see not good enough, fairly good, and we'll know. But that's not
mid stream, you know. Let'sget a man and here and here's the
thing, Sean, you got injurieson the picture staff. To me,

(01:36:41):
the more concerned thing people talk aboutto pray you, But to me,
the more concerned thing is it seemedlike the eighth and ninth ain't always a
given anymore. And it used tobe like when the Ashtros was up going
in eighth to ninth, it wasa done deal. Now it's like a
fifty to fifty proposition. And that'sthat's a concerning And then the other thing
to me, Sean, is thebig dog ain't got going yet, and

(01:37:03):
we need that. You know,Tucker's been raking, but Alvarez, we
need him to play at the MVPlevel. That's the big dog man.
We need him to carry some games, and we haven't quite seen that yet.
So let's see when Alvarez get rolling, and let's see if we can
get that back end of the bullpento be lights out, because that's it.

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You know we can You're not gonnawin every game sixty four. You
got to win two to one games. But we had to lead. We
had to lead. We had thepeople we wanted to come in to shut
him down, and he didn't doit. And this has happened numerous times
this year. So I'm not gonnablame that on the manager. Agreed,
And and Brian has a stat justjust embarrassed telling now and he'll he'll repeat

(01:37:45):
it. But just to validate whatyou're saying, do you know that this
team has more blown saves than savesright now? That's it. Think about
that, almost sixty games into theseason. And Brian, am I right
about that? Told me ten blownsaves? They have nine. That's the
problem to me, Sean, it'sa big one. In the past,
our bullpen was the strength. Yep. Now it's a fifty to fifty propabusiness

(01:38:11):
seem like. And so that youknow that hurts team, I believe,
and real quick, Biscuit, welet you go. You And so people
listening, you're a big Dusty Bakerfan, so this isn't just Joe,
this is you being consistent. TheDusty Joe a spot and being fair.
It's a great point, thanks man. And if we played a sixty game
season, you can judge him.Right. We played one hundred and sixty
two, so that make I mean, you can have your opinion, we

(01:38:32):
all have it, but the fullin game comes one hundred and sixty two
of them or more. Thanks Biscuit, appreciated good stuff. He's right,
Morgan, welcome in. Stay Sean, Brian, how you know, Good
morning, y'all. I was justthinking about I just went back and started
thinking about some things that had thatled up to this season. I believe

(01:38:54):
the Seeds that his team's inconsistency canbe traced back to last year when when
when Click requested the Astros a oneyear contract offer, Uh, they didn't
know. They didn't give them acontract. And I think it's been avoid
Uh you know, I'm just kindof looking over the long run and it's

(01:39:16):
kind of been avoid since then.Now, it is true that a lot
of these teams they've gotten much better. I mean, Astros were the big
dogs. A lot of these teamsare much better. But it still doesn't
explain the inconsistency of this team.It's it's now obvious that they'll break a

(01:39:36):
Braille trade was a debacle as obvious, not as anybody gonna be held accountable
for that. And it's and itseemed like am I right or wrong?
You can ask me later. Andit seems like it was a far gone
conclusion for whatever reason that Dusty wasn'tcoming back. So I don't know what
was up with that. I'm justthinking, I'm just going back to the

(01:39:57):
past thinking about this. And soI just think that the Astros just got
cocky, started believing in their ownheight. You know, this might be
you know, hyperbole, but itjust something just doesn't feel right with this
team. It, you know,do they not believe that they need a
general manager? It seems like theteam is not responding to this new management,

(01:40:25):
that there's something missing that you know, on any given night you got
l two Va Tucker or Don Penya, Bregman Das and you can't score more
than two or three runs. Imean, it's it's it's something going on.
So anyway, y'all can tell mewhat you think about that, and
and I can hang up and listen. Thank you, Morgan. Let's keep

(01:40:49):
it rolling on the phone line sevenone. We'll get to them. We'll
put them in a collab on allthese and stuff because we also got some
dominant questions too about this spot ofstuff too. Yeah, and we got
more callers. I'm trying to thesethrough. Start to Tony, what's happened
to Tony? Hey, good morningguys. You know I show the frustration
with you guys, And it's thesame talk all year long. Though we
were looking better than we were before, but we talked about the facts.

(01:41:12):
Last night. Nobody hit the ball, but I could tell you what a
brad. You couldn't put a gloveon that ball last night. And I
think, and all respect to BillBuckner, greatest defensive first basement that was
crippled. He would have made thatplay last night, God versus Old.
But sticking to the facts, wegot guys with the bullfans, Scott a
break. You could have finished outthose two innings. But I'm gonna tell
you what those guys are all overa brad you plumb on the hit him

(01:41:36):
on his back and say good job, good job. But nobody wants in
that lineup. If you're hitting beforehim, you know you're not going to
get pushed around. If you're hittingbehind him. You know you got a
job to do, so it killsthe mojo. And we've all played ball
before at many levels, guys.And if you know you've got a teammate
that's not coming through, you knowit. He's batten under our hundred.

(01:41:56):
We got to do something about it. Get him out of that ball game.
Presley needs be gone. We liketo call my home depressedly because he
depresses everybody. So, guys,let's just let's we got dancers on the
bench. Like I said, wegot Scott, we got up break you,
we got we got guys that canclose the game, Martinez, guys
that are doing great. So whatdo you say? Guys? Thank you

(01:42:18):
Tony, and again we'll get touh, Tom, We'll get We're gonna
we're gonna respond to all it becauseit's like I said, we we got
a lot of stuff. So we'llget to everybody's talk about this, Glenn,
what's happening? Hey, good morning. I've been listening all morning and
love your show. But I'm gonnatell you guys sucked. No, I'm
just kidding. I just don't we'veheard that. I don't know what y'all

(01:42:44):
say to get too big this morningnow, the way I look at it,
with these hashtros, you know,they've got to go sixty six and
forty one the rest of the seasonto get the ninety wins, and that
may not be enough to make theplayoffs. With the way Seattle have been
playing, the way they showed thesefirst fifty five games, I just can't
see them putting it together right nowto go basically twenty five games over five

(01:43:08):
hundred from here and now. Itcan't start next week. It's going to
start tonight where they start winning thesegames more and more to even get the
ninety wins to try to get tothe playoffs. But other than that,
you know, it's just something islost in the consistency in the fight,
and I just don't know what itis. But Levy Show guys, y'all

(01:43:29):
have a great one. Thank you, Glenn, Brian as you take us
to break. I will say this, the inconsistency. There's no way in
hell i've seen a team consistently.I've seen flashes of it. They can
go sixty six and forty one withfour starting pitchers hurt sixty six and forty
one to get to ninety wins.Now they may get in with eighty eight
wins. I don't know you.Could you see sixty six and forty one

(01:43:53):
from here on? Al? Yes, as of right now? Absolutely not.
That's all we got to judge on. It's just too inconsistent two up
and down? Do I think they'retalented enough? I dotely, But talent,
Like I said, talent's one thingthat will open your eyes. But
in order to stay in it,there's Execution's got to be a part of
it. Sixty six and forty oneseems like a long road climb in Mount
Everest right now? Possible? Yes, probable, slim, that's just the

(01:44:19):
way. And I'm a glass halffull guy, right And the question you're
gonna ask about Joe A. Spottaand you and I asked it when he
was hired. We both root forhim and think he's a really good baseball
man. Did they need an applecart disruption? Was he too close as
a friend they have there? Theytoo comfortable with hire and inside as opposed

(01:44:42):
to going outside. I don't know, but it does beg the question from
day one because the players seem tolove him, but it's the it's responding
to him as your manager, notyour buddy. Yeah, let's discuss that.
And also, when are we gonnaget some updates on Christian Xavier and
jose Urkti and their injuries. That'snext In Sports Talk seven ninety The Sewn

(01:45:05):
Salisbury Show continued. I read thestatistic that the Astros have more blown saves
than saves this season. They haveten blown saves and nine saves the season.
Well, the Astros are third inthe league with blown leads at sixteen.

(01:45:35):
We're talking about all of baseball,all of baseball. The Texas Rangers
are number one, Chicago White Soxnumber two, and then there are one,
two, three, four, fiveteams tied at third, and the
Astros are with them. This seasonis not a season you want to be
mentioned with the Chicago White Sox inthe same Bria No very good, No,
Texas Rangers eighteen blown leads, ChicagoWhite Sox seventeen, and then the

(01:45:59):
Diamondbacks shows Marlin's Pirates, Giants allsixteen. So the blown lead can't just
fall on pitching, and of amajority of it is. But let's say
you've got a three to one leadand your bats go silent and a team
just chips away at it. That'sa blown lead, right, So when

(01:46:19):
the first thing that comes to yourmind and mind when that happens, I
would imagine most people, is what'swrong our pitching staff? Bullpen sucks or
starting pitching can't go long? Youknow what I mean? Yeah, that's
the first thing that'll go to andbiscuits right about the back end of the
bullpen that it used to be done, foot on your throat done. Now
there is at times a concern canthey finish it? These stats If you're

(01:46:41):
an analytics driven team, and theyare, these stats are analytics, it's
evidence, and they're telling you thatmore blown saves than saves and more blown
leads third in the league, atthe bottom of the barrel, not the
top. So that makes them whattwenty eight eight in Major League Baseball as
far as on the good side third, So there's twenty seven teams ahead of

(01:47:05):
them that don't blow leads. Now, So while it's all it feels like
a pitching statistic, it's also gota lead relinqu with shit. Because you
scored a couple runs in the thirdinning and you didn't score for five innings
and they did. It doesn't justmean eight run innings. It could mean
a three run inning for somebody elsewhere, they carved out a single,

(01:47:27):
doubled up the gap, score anotherrun, then a solo home run whatever
however that works. So they're alarming. Now you read those two stats alone.
If you gave me those two statsand I told you your third basement's
hitting two to eight or two tenand the first base position and a bray,
you're starting last night's hitting like abouta buck ten, right, I
think it's like a bucko three,okay, So a dollar bucko four okay.

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So if I told you that abuck and some change, and I
said four pitchers starting pitchers are onthe il, would you not look at
me and say this team has nochance of winning sixty six of their next
one hundred and six games or whateverI would Now when some people will say

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that, now, you and Iand fans and here, because we've seen
the Astros over the last seven years, but last year four years ago,
twenty nineteen, twenty seventeen, twentytwenty one, they have nothing to do
with this year. But we allhold out that hope with the glass half
fool, that they can do itbecause we've seen their talent. Sometimes the
other team gets better too, Seattle'simproved as a baseball club. We saw

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the Bruce Bochie what he did withhis team last year and how they overcame
it, and we can't keep makingit. Well, it's injuries. You
know. Guess who else is hurt? The Braves got down the Acuna,
the MVP of the league and SpencerStryder are a cy young guy. Aren't
they both hurt and gone for theyear. Yes, they are, so
they're going to have their So sometimesyou're a little unlucky. The question is

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that you have enough depth overcome itand as your manager and your team making
enough decisions to give you a chancewith your talent to stay in there.
And it is on the play incumbentupon them to deliver as hitters and pitchers.
But those stats are alarming, Brian, and the frustration is it's worthy
of people's opinion and at times wrath. It just is. It's not just

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one cat. And if I toldyou that Jordan and Bregman, who are
two superstars, have not hit likeit this year, and all those those
other things we just talked about,there's not sixty six and forty one.
There is there no no you I'mgonna say this again. I'm just gonna

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look at last night. Hunter Brownpitched well. Jose A Bray, you
got his or not Hosey bre BrianBray, you got his job done.
Ryan Presley did not pitch well.They were over three with runners in scoring
position, they had five hits.That's not gonna get it done against good
teams. Ryan Presley has to pitchbetter, but the offense has to put

(01:49:58):
together better at bats. And they'vegot a manu actual more runs than two
runs. They've scored four runs intwo games. That's not going to do
it. And a big problem forme is jose A Bray you being in
the lineup. That's a problem forme. This can't continue on. I
don't care about the nineteen and ahalf million dollars anymore. I don't care

(01:50:18):
about it. Cut your losses.He is hurting your team. You know
what's interesting too? At no pointyou know what, just just real quick,
Sean. One of the things thatbothers me is he goes down to
West Palm and again this is justas this is performance wise. This has
nothing to do with him as aperson or a teammate. Goes down to

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West Palm Beach, does that wholething. They sent him in triple A
for a couple of games. Helooked terrible in Triple A. He did
not did not swing it well,struck out on a pitch clock violation,
grounded in double play, so forth, and so on. At what point
in time did they see and say, hmmm, he looks ready. How
did any of that to show thathe was ready? Well, well,

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I mean that's the frustrating part,and it's not you know what I say,
they Jeff Bagwell, Jeff Bagwell saidhe was ready. Jeff Bagwell was
the one that was feeding Dana Brownthe information. At what point in time
did you say he was ready?Listen, for the most part, for
the better part of a year,SAMs September in playoffs last year and has

(01:51:30):
got better and the start of thisyear he's been a two million dollar player,
not a twenty million dollar player.Has nothing to do with who he
is as a person and a teammate. Secondly, you mentioned scoring runs four
runs against the Mariners in two days, two games. You can't score four
runs against the A's and two gamesand win. Yeah, very few.

(01:51:53):
I'm not talking about the that soI'm talking about very few teams can,
and guess what you're gonna play.You're gonna play the Mariners, some more
of the Rangers who can match somemore. You're gonna see good teams.
You don't get the a's every everyday. And you know what, when
you run into teams like Kansas CityRoyals, who've played better baseball. You
know, when you run into teamslike that, like we saw last year,
the problem is they're not only notbirdy in the par fives at times,

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they're having trouble paring the par threes, which is tough to do to
win a tournament. And you knowwho a par three is, a hard
par three is a Seattle Mariners,right, And you're running your best out
there, and Kirby's good too,you know, Verlander and Kirby going today.
You can't. You can't beat teamson the road, good teams scoring
four runs in two days when yourproduction is falling and DS, let's just
start. We got to he's gotto get back to hitting. He's now
what just above two fifty Yeah,he's hitting two fifty one. Yeah,

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he's got to. I think theyhad him in the nine hole last night.
I did, so he's got ashe's got to pick up the temple.
This team's had too many. Whenone guy struggling, another guy picks
it up. The problem is,when have we seen the entire team on
a consistent basis? Rake you haven't. And even though it may be rare,
the potential is there. But youcan't keep leaning on potential and what

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ifs. But what if is simple. They're not playing like a playoff baseball
team on a consistent basis. They'renot against good teams, especially which is
who you play in the playoffs,good teams. And in order to get
back to five hundred, you gotto put you got to You just got
to keep stacking wins. You haveto. Yeah, potential, no doubt,
production has not been there on aconsistent basis. And I don't know

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how long experiments lasts, Brian.I don't know how long you keep running
certain people out there in certain situations. I don't But uh, you'll get
the answers by the performance, andwe'll get a little idea, hopefully in
the next day or so about this. These two pitchers in Howvier and and
Erkiti and what's going on with theirinjury. They got imaging done yesterday and
yet we don't hear anything. JoeSpotts said he had no update. I

(01:53:49):
don't know what kind of news thatwould mean. Then I don't either,
So hopefully we can get something fromDana Brown at nine thirty this morning.
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At nine to thirty. Texans extendwide receiver Nicocollins to a three year
deal seven one three two one twofive seven eyes come back out to the
phone lines. Gary, you're upfirst. Good morning, Hey guy,
that's good morning. I got agood chuckle to the first time on the
radio. I've ever heard anybody advertisea courtesy courtesy flush before, but that's

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that made me laugh. Advertise moreand more people need them. There you
go in those public mouthrooms. That'strue. Hey, listen about the Astros.
We're all trying to figure out what'sgoing on and everything and and there's
so many things to uh to hiton. But and I've never been a
person that said that in a team. Gain of course, there's no high

(01:56:27):
in team that that if one personwould do this, one person do that,
that the team would be better.But I'm a I'm a firm believer
now that if one thing would happenwith the Astros, it would lift all
the pressure off of everybody. AndI'm not blaming this person, but we
have a superman who's now refusing togo into the phone booth and and and

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fly and become the hero of thisteam because everybody else will following him.
So if if you're if alva Isdoes not become his true real self and
start pounding that ball, on arecord basis, then we don't have a
hope. And I know we gotso many people to blame a bullpen and
blah blah blah blah blah. ButI see, if he starts doing his

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thing, everybody else will feel lighterand they will follow his suits. I'm
just saying my prediction if is ifhe starts raking, the Astros will move
up and make it to the playoff. If he keeps something's wrong. I
don't I'm not sure why what's goingon with him, but he's in a
deep slump for some reason, andwe need him to come up, pick

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this team up and be our hero. And that's just what I see right
now. Great point. I thinkgreat teams and even average teams, which
this team's not average. Their performancehas been below average this year, but
great team's feet off stars man.Think of look around the league, the
best players when they're going well.When Ronald Lacunyaz was doing his thing,
the land of brads jump on board, let's go, and what a bummer

(01:57:57):
for them for him. But Idon't just agree with that call one bit.
I'm one on board with that,and it's not just Jordon, but
that that's the responsibility with being asuperstar. That goes with it, right,
bringing people along, and there's it'smore than just that and two hits
last night. Maybe we'll start tosee the change of Jordan getting rolling.
But he has got to be anMVP candidate or I'm not sure they can

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right, they go as he goes. That's there's no doubt. Continue on
the phone lines. Talk to Carlos. Carlos, welcome in, Hey guys,
good morning. Well we finally gotsome a little bit of rain over
here. That no country back overthat you guys seem to be Dallas and
he used to be just hogging allthe water over there. Man, you

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guys got to send it down tous. Man, there you go.
Hey. One one of the thingsI'm gonna I'm gonna say this, I'm
looking at positive here. I lovethe fire that we're getting through from the
young guys. Man. I mean, I'm telling you that is so awesome
to see these guys like du Bahanand and just the guys in general are

(01:59:01):
a getty. These guys in HunterBrown when he came off of that mound,
man that was pumping me up.You know. Yeah, we lost
the game. But I love tosee those guys do. That second thing
is is these umpires are like,especially that first game, all over the
place. I don't even know whata strike looks like anymore with these guys.

(01:59:24):
And then the third thing I'd sayis that, you know, Brave
is a human being just like therest of us. But gosh, man,
a lot of errors they're forget thehitting or the lack of air man
killing us. Okay, Buddy,thanks a lot, appreciate the show.
Thanks Carlos, enjoy some rain foryou guys. Man, We appreciate it.

(01:59:45):
I don't start to Eddie. Eddiewas happening. Oh well, like
the previous callers said, you know, the hidings contagious. So absolutely,
if Alvais gets on fire and startsdriving the ball, not just hitting the
ball, but driving the ball andhitting home runs, everybody else will fall
suit. And with the Brave hisreactions over there on first base, they're

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just so noticeable that he can't getsome of these groundballs. Sure, they're
hard to hit balls, but evenSingleton stop a few of them the other
night, and and you know itmade a difference in the outcome of the
game. So I don't know whoJoe spots having the answer to. I
don't know who he's getting the advicefrom, but some things need to change.

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I mean the guys that we gotout there, those are our players,
Bregman and everyone else that can't hitthe ball. Those that's our lineup.
I mean, I don't know howmuch more we can change it.
We just need to start hitting theball. That's all I got to say.
Thank you, Eddie. That's prettysimple philosophy, isn't it. I
can confirm that the players on thefield are indeed our players, right,

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yes, right? I think saidthere's not gonna be a You're not getting
a lot of help to change thecourse of this at the trade deadline.
Nobody's given away a star because itgive up a star. Guess you're gonna
have to get a star. Youknow, you have to give up either
a star or a bunch of assets. And they don't have a lot of
assets to give up. No,So what you see is what you get
now. You can get some differentwith a lineup, but the dudes in

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the dugout now are going to eitherget them to where they want to go
or they're gonna fall short. Itisn't going to be from some rescue mission,
from somebody else out there in baseballrescue mission. It's not happening that
rescue missions in the clubhouse. Questionis can they? Yeah, it's like
what they it's what they say aboutyou know, you're going to break a
quote up there, you go goahead. I've just always believed that the

(02:01:42):
mission is greater than the man tohave that quote handy for you every year.
That's my buddy Rick Perry. Notto be confused with the former governor
of the state of Texas Rick Perry, or not to be confused with Steve
Perry, Right, Steve Perry.I don't know who that Rick Perry is,
but he's obviously with a good quote. Yeah, that's not repair of

(02:02:04):
the governor. No, I don'tknow. You're the one staring at it.
So I'm just yeah, I'm justnobody the moving words that you give
us, all right, it's justyeah, yeah, he's uh, he's
from uh, he's from the Eastcoast of the part of the East coast,
Paris, he's part of the Eastcoast Perristuh yeah, South Carolina.

(02:02:25):
Yeah, so get to Larry atthe top of the hour. I've always
believed the mission is greater than theman. Yeah, we'll get to Appo
Taco Larry top of the hour.So I have the ball the other way.
I mean, I know we gotDanny Brown coming up at nine thirty,
but I want to talk about NicoCollins getting that you know, that
extension. They're looking at him asa number one, they are saying him
as one as well. Let's discussthat. Next to Sports Talk seven ninety

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extend wide receiver Nico Collins to athree year deal. We're gonna talk that

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deal this segment. Let's get toa couple of callers that have been on
holds start with Larry, Good morning, Larry, all right top of them
morning, ma'n. How y'all doingtoday? We're good man, Shawn,
Yes, sir, you did talkto Dana Brown? Can you ask him?
Since the Astros are in a funk. I have been pitching this for

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over two years, you know,but the same things happen every game.
Now you've got Singleton trying to pulleverything. He'll look at that third calls
track on the outside corner. Justlook at it. You know, if
we could get bregmam elver, isSingleton pain you to at least go with

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the picture. They keep pitching yououtside. Pictures are getting away with murder.
As long as they can get usout pitching outside, they're gonna do
it. We're the ones that's gonnahave to change our thinking to make them
change theirs. It's one thing Iknow about pitching. When you hit a

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Picture's pitch, it messages with hismentality. He got to come up with
something else. But they're getting usout constantly because we refuse to go with
the pitch. I'd like to hearhis thinking on it. You know,
they won't put the banking coach on. I'd like to say he talk to

(02:05:15):
him. You know, we havedone what we're doing for over two years
and it ain't working. You know, Taniel will chase that curveball off of
the plate, trying to pull it. If you go swing at it,
go with it. I mean he'llswing it three of them right off the

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plate and miss all three of them. You know, Brad Bunny is hitting
too many pop pop ups, fileballs. Alvarez is hitting too many pop
ups. He could drive that balland left field if that was his mentality,
but that's not his mentality. Hewants to pull everything. You know.
He rather pull or double down onright field side then hit a home

(02:06:03):
run and the crowfit that's this.Oh he pop out to left field,
but he don't drive the ball toleft field if he started using that men
polget man. Thanks, don't change. But as long as we keep doing
what we're doing, we're gonna getthe results were getting. Thank you,
y'all, have a great day.Thank you. Larry. Definition of insanity

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Right yeah, Larry, I'm talkingabout deep doing what you're doing and expecting
a different result. Right. Thatis the definition of exc If I can
fit that in today, I amgoing to credit Larry and see if if
the if in Dana Brown's mind theytry to pull too many baseballs. We'll
see if I can get that infor him today. That's coming up in
about twenty five minutes of nine tothirty with Astros Genermators, Daniel Brown,

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Leo. Welcome in. What's up, fellas real quick? On the Astros.
The you know is the saying playerswin games, managers lose games.
And I think that was a probablya good example of last night. Uh.
But when you get tied up intoall the analytics and stuff. Uh,
there's a thing called paralysis of analysis, and I think that's what's happening
with the Astros this year. It'sa hell of a point. And that's

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a hell of a point. Yeah, And and that's that's all I got.
An. Actually, I'm still anAskhos fan no matter what. Okay,
Sean, I was supposed to calllast week with the football question,
but I got I took my dadas a doctor and he's still there.
He's gotta have bypass surgery and hopefullythat happens in the next couple of days.
You can be okay though, huhyeah, yeah, he's gonna be
He's gonna be fine, we gota nucleus results this morning and everything the

(02:07:30):
heart's good, everything's good. Good. What's on your mind that? Uh?
Okay, the Texans. I'm nota football guy, so again I
got a single teach football like youwith the Texans. Uh, in your
opinion, to have a balanced attackon offense? Uh, I'm assuming that's

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a passing game and a running game. And this year do the Texans you
think the Texans will will can havethat kind of an offense uh? This
year? And then uh kind ofa two part players so that the other
part of the question is, Uh, if the the Texans face a team
that has a really good balanced attack, do we have the defensive players to

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be able to combat that uh?Uh balance attack? And and do we
and if let's say that we're gettingbeat in the first half, do we
have the coaches that can come upwith a game plan uh and the players
to execute that game plan to uhto be able to combat that balance attack
in the second half to maybe keepus in the game. Uh. And

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then then then of course special teams. UH. You know, everybody everybody's
kicking the football now on a kickofffrom the fifty yard line, so special
teams just then they're almost out thewindow. Nowadays do we have I think,
what what? What were the specialteams? Uh? Part of the
Texans looked like this year? Uh? And and and then with the receiver.

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I heard a interview with Edeman onetime where he said that what made
him a better receiver was being ableto run routes exact and he said Brady
helped him, and he demanded thathis receivers run perfect routes. How important
is that for a wide receiver?And how important is it for the quarterback

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to become Because everyone I member onesaid he was like a second or third
maybe a fourth progression receiver. Whenhe started running much better routes, he
became a first progression or a secondprogression receiver. How important is that for
the team? And I'll hang upand listen, appreciate it. So I
got a four part Yeah, okay, now my memory's going to serve me

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right one. Special teams. Thishas been a pretty good strength of this
team. Good field goal kicker,they're well taught, and yes they're special
teams. Well, special team seemsto have been diminished some in the past.
The return game out of it.This team can compete in special teams
absolutely two. Do they have thebalanced attack to the defense to deal with

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the balanced attack or a team thatcomes at them similar to the way they'll
go at off at defense as opposingdefense. They do. They've upgraded.
The edge is going to get better. Will Anderson's a player. Daneil Hunter
is one of the best edge rushersin the league. They have gotten better
at tackling progressively better at tackling sinceDemiko rans has come in because he demands
it, and there's accountability, whichmatters on defense scheme wise, no problem.

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When you're there. You got tofinish, and you saw last year
miss tackles in the secondary. You'llgo sit down by the coach. The
whole thing for me is depth onthe interior when you deal with the team
that can run it downhill. Thebiggest problem the texts have adamed the pass
pre Demiko Ryans is when you runinto a beast a Jonathan Taylor Derreck Henry
in this division in the past,they have just muled you. And two

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dimensional teams are difficult to deal with. But they will be more stout and
better and they'll be in a lotmore long yardage defensive situations. It is
a passing league. Teams like tothrow it, no doubt, and getting
to the quarterback and be in adisrupting defense takes almost a balanced attack out
of it. If you're an impatientoffense. That's two three precise dynamic route

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running. If I wanted a twelveyard back to ten yard curl route,
I call it twelve. I calla curl route twelve to ten. If
I want a fourteen yard route,I'll call a fourteen yard route. Precise
does equal dynamic. So when you'retold to run a fifteen back to twelve
comeback or eighteen back to fifteen comeback, it's not seventeen back to thirteen,

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it's not seventeen to fourteen. Atwenty yard dig route or a fifteen yard
dig route, a post dig,or a straight stem dig route, which
is a deep end cut. IfI wanted to run at twelve yards,
I'd call a twelve yard route.So yes, Brady's right. Edelman's right,
the best, still to this day, the best route runner I ever
played. With it, I willput him on par with anybody that's ever
played. Steve Largent was about afour five nine, four to six guy.

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Nobody came out of cuts better,Steve Large, he ran it to
the inch. When you want atwenty yard route, that was ran at
twenty yards when there was a certainaiming point coming out of a corner route
out of the slot. He gotto that point unless he had to adjust
to the ball. And at yourabsolutely correct quarterback expects you to be at

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a certain spot, and you betterexpect to be there, and if we
need a change, we'll adjust ona fly. But yes, precise to
get to your spots like an actoron a stage. Here's your mark,
get to it and we'll adjust fromthere if we don't like the mark.
So yes, precise. In dynamicroute runners, give me a guy who

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runs a crisp route and finishes withhis hands and runs four to six over
a four to three to nine.Guy who runs shoddy routes and drops balls
two out of ten throws, I'lltake. I'll take the first guy.
And to your final question, dothey have a balanced attack? I think
I got them all for Yes,they do, and adding Joe Mixon will
be one of the more underrated uhads to any team in the end this

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year. Here's why I'd say thebest. It'll be as good as there
is for a need. They gota guy who's as good as there is
catching the ball out of the backfield, not named Christian McCaffrey. And you've
got a guy who's a big,strong, physical, durable player who you
can lean on when you need thefour minute drill and you're up by twenty
points and you can still even ifyou're down and you don't want to have

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to throw forty five times that youcan implement him in the passing game running
options out of the backfield and it'sbasically an extension of the run and he
gets you extra yards. This isa big body, a very good football
player, and a hell of atalent that they have not had this past
year. They did not have thatability out of the backfield, which creates
major dynamic and defensive adjustment problems.And then you got the quarterbacks. So

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yes, I believe they can actuallythrow the ball less and get more production
out of the offense because of thethreat coming out of the backfield. And
I do believe the coaching staff isthat listen, this is as excite is
this football city should be. SinceI've lived here that's a decade. And

(02:14:07):
while it's just one year. Whatthey did excitement and energy is one thing.
They got to go repeat it.But when you go into a season,
even when Watson was here at hisbest, I've never had more energy
and or expectations for the Houston Texans. Yes, ever since I've lived here.
This is only year two for CJ'strout, and it's an important one

(02:14:30):
because you don't want to get caughtup saying we've arrived, because they have
not arrived, but they're getting closer. Let's talk about the Nico Collins extension
for the Houston Texans. Next onthe Seawan Salisbury Show, h Towns Most
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Astros lost first two of this seriesErlander Curby tonight and important. This
team is charging the five and ahalf out of first place, I believe

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now, and it's a hill toclimb. I think one of our callers
earlier said, what's sixty six andforty one? Yes, to get to
ninety wins. It's gonna be ahell of a hell of a trek.
But you know what, whether there'sa hell of a trek, there's great
reward. So we'll see how's thatfor a motivational speech. We'll see where
this takes us. But there's it'snot one guy, it's not two guys.

(02:15:33):
It's a bunch of them at thesame time getting right. And stars
got to carry you. It's justthe way it works. Your your big
knockers got to carry you. Theyjust do. And when they don't,
then everybody else has to elevate theirplace. And it's like leadership. Leaders
The greatest thing about leadership or performanceis and it's contagious We heard our people
talk about contagious hitting. Jordan goesthe rest follow or Bregman goes the rest

(02:15:56):
follow. It's it's leadership. Theone thing is that the guys that are
your stars also take guys. Andit's a great feeling to see other players
or people elevate their game beyond whatthey thought they could. The way Hunter
Brown's pitch now, I think HeathAlway thought he could be do this.
Look at Renel Blanco. So greatleadership becomes contagious, as does hitting,

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and when somebody else does it,there's that inner competition that wants to drive
you. Two guys aren't going toget you there. Two great superstars are
going to take you to a differentlevel. And a lot of people will
follow contagious matters, especially when it'sgood, and it even hits worse when
it's bad, and that's contagious too. Can't get used to losing. This
team doesn't know what it looks likefor the most part the last seven years.

(02:16:43):
So important they roll to it.Let's get to Larry and Stafford.
Larry, what's up, big man? Welcome in? Hey, what's going
on? Sean Blima? Hey,I appreciate y'all letting me get in.
Man, we don't hit on Nietobefore I get to the mass shows.
God, that was a great signingby Casario. Man because again, Sean,
I'm a gambler man, and Ilike big bore things like cigars and

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fine women and drink man. Andwhen you push all your chips in the
middle of the table, Man,you letting everybody in the league. No,
we're finna make a run at thisthing, and we don't give a
damn hire look keeping your own talentin house, man, is what the
Nico and Demico and Cal and Hannaand them have decided to do. And

(02:17:24):
they wanted to put as many weaponsaround cj'stide as possible. So this is
gonna make that that offense even moredynamic, man, because now you're gonna
have to pick who you gonna leaveopen on that offense at wide receiver and
with Joe minching toe that peel Manand hopefully Damon Pierce getting his ass getting
his act back together. Man,it's gonna be something to be whole.

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I was over there last night andyou could just feel an energy over there
at NRG Stadium when they had thatSeaton ticket holder meeting last night and Callen
Hannah came out there and Dray cameout. Man, it's just a vibe
and energy over there that we havebeen won in this city for a long
time after going through what we experienced, which takes me to the Astros.

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I don't know how the Assros decidedthey wanted to build O'Brien and Jack used
to be this thing they got goingover there on profits, but they are
playing with people in fans emotions andintelligence when they continuously try to feed us
or bray you. Pray you couldbe the greatest guy in the in the
history of baseball, but his asshernot be in the Assros lineup when you

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that's forcing you not to play Dubonand you take Singleton out at first base,
who's a better defensive first baselit thanto bray you and it has cost
you games that you knew you hadto win in Seattle. This is that
used to be in and O'Brien sillyass stuff where they're let people over there
who we think are baseball minds makethese kind of silly ass decisions that are

(02:18:56):
costing the Assros games. Look,I know they bought a lot of and
a lot of clout by by winningtwo World Series. That's cool and all.
But when you're up telling us thatwe're just stupid watching the break you
play baseball, that is not gonnabe something that's gonna sit well with the
fans. And another thing that theygonna sit well with the fans is Ryan

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Presley ass coming in there in theeighth inning and then still doing what he's
been doing all season. And wehave been big Ryan Presley supporters, but
for Ryan Presley to come out thereand he is walking the ninth hitter in
your lineup. Ryan Presley ass needsto be moved from the eighth to the
seventh or the sixth inning or whatever. Long relief. I don't give a

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damn until he gets his head rightto quit pouding over that Josh Haters signing
because he don't even look like RyanPresley. Look, we're a baseball fans
and football fans in this city,and we got a lot of sports intelligence.
But don't keep trying to think westupid when we watching baseball at Node
and this stuff ain't feeling like it'sbeen filling in our hall ready. He's

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right sometimes sometimes it's a bit.Larry always brings energy, and he's right
about Nico Collins. What a greatget, and it is sending a message
across the league. We're not hereto play pretend big boy football. We're
here to play big boy football.And and he deserved it. Nico Collins
is perform. We got better everyyear. And as far as the Astros
go, I think that there's someAsters fans that probably feel like that.

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Did the optics tell you this?Can't you can't think that we aren't seeing
this? Does that make sense?Yeah? Great energy by Larry Well.
Frustrating with the Astros when a coupleof sttles, you had a soft part
of your schedule, when a coupleof series and then you go up to

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Seattle and you've lost the first two. But justin erland of the ump tonight,
that'll hopefully stop the skid. TheNico Collins deal. What does that
do for Stefan Diggs, Well,it tells the von Diggs he's under contract
for the year. Tell Steffan Diggsto go go out and play like a
monster, and you'll have options toget paid, whether it's here somewhere else.

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All's it should be to Stefan Diggsis what a great challenge. I
got another teammate that they think thishighly of a wide receiver. And any
great player that you've ever been around, or I've ever been around, or
we've ever watched, does what theroom? If the room elevates, you
take it to the next level.You don't go at it envious or jealous.

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You go at it. That's mydog, that's my running mate.
Now I'm going to elevate it again. Hey, it's like playing tennis.
Oh, Youlley, we're volleying.Now you got choes, I got mine.
You root for that. You wanthim to get paid because in truth,
alls it does is Stefan Diggs playsgreat, is elevate his salary?
I mean, And if you're StephanDiggs, you shouldn't be thinking about Nico
Collins money. Should be patting himon the back and doing it, which
I'm'm assuming he's doing. But takethe challenge because there's a big fat contract

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still waiting for Stefan Diggs. Ifhis talent and head come together, you
get what I'm saying, where they'rewhere he's happy, peaceful and content.
You should look at that as saying, okay, now we're onto something.
Plus he's there's one thing he doesn'thave that's a ring. Okay, So

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that that the goal first. Ifthat's the goal, the money's gonna come.
He's too talented a player and he'sgot a quarterback that can rip it.
Yeah, it's gonna make. It'sgonna no doubt about it. All
Right, let's let's get to breakbecause we're gonna welcome in Astros general manager
Dana Brown of the show. Nextin Sports Talk seven ninety, we're fout
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues. HoYou're back with the Shawn Salisbury Show here

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on Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Brownand Tripley. It's that time of the
week. We welcome in astros Ageneral manager Dana Brown in the show.
We sure do nine to thirty visitevery single Wednesday. Dana Brown joins us
astros A couple more in Seattle Downtwo in this series, and Verlander goes
tonight. Dana, welcome in.We appreciate you. Let me start with
Hunter Brown look great last night,pitched well enough to win. What's different

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from him from the start to now? Yeah, it just looked like last
night he was locked in and gotfocused. Thought of the eye to Tiger
last night. I mean he wasaggressive with his stuff. I thought his
tempo was really good. I thoughthe didn't waste time in between pitches.

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He was aggressive and so it wasvery good to see. We're gonna need
him down the stretch. It's agood time for him to get hot for
us. And is he pitching likea guy you expected when the season started?
Now? Does this look like aguy who can sustain this level of
performance like last night? Absolutely?I mean last night was exactly what we

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want out of Hunter Brown. AsI mentioned, he was aggressive in his
zone and he attacked the hitters,and if he could continue to do that,
that's gonna put us on some goodwinning streaks. And you know,
it's a shame we let that oneslip away, But ultimately we had a
good outing by Brown, really goodouting, Dana. Ryan Presley's been so
good, is there? We talkedabout soft hits and and you know how

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balls are placed. Is he Isit frustrating him? Did it feel like
a demotion for him to move tothe eighth hole? Is there anything to
that? He's a pro, butis there a confidence thing going on with
him? And what do you expectto see from him as we go forward?
Yeah, I don't think it's aconfidence thing. Yeah, he may
have felt like it was a demotion. I'm sure, you know, you

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go from posing to setting up.But I think Ryan Presley is the professional.
He's been really good for this organization, has been outstanding in the postseason,
and so I just think he's goingthrough a tough time right now.
And you know, these things happen, you know, particularly when you've been
so good for so long. Atsome point you're going to hit a cold

(02:24:54):
streak, and it just so happensthat he hit this code streak this year.
You know, he had moments wherehe looked like he was climbing out
of it, and he's you know, he threw well multiple times in a
row, and so I would expectthat, uh, Presley will get back
to himself and and and help usget close out those games towards the end.

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Is tired, people are pitching himdifferent. What do you see with
him at the plate? I don'tthink he's tired. I think he's more
frustrated than anything else. Uh,he know he's a better hitter and he's
not having the success. You know, he needs to get hot, and
so I don't think he's tired.I just think ultimately, you know,

(02:25:37):
he's he's in a cold streak rightnow and he needs to turn he needs
to turn the dial. I thinkthe most most mostly he's frustrated. I'm
sure uh been through those times whereyou're struggling and you know you can't seem
to trying to hit, and thenthe balls that you hit hard don't fall
and you know, home run robfrom him. You know, things like

(02:25:58):
that do they days ago? It'sjust tough, and so you know,
you've got to keep at it.It's a long season, and ultimately I
think he'll turn it around for sure. With we have in speaking of that,
I mean guys that are driving theball the other way, Dana.
We've talked about this and getting qualityat bats and putting the bat on the
ball properly. We have a guywho's a caller who loves baseball. He's

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in his seventies and he's been oneof our favorite people, and he constantly
talks about hitting the ball the otherway. And he asked, if he
asked us to ask you, doesthe team try to pull the ball too
much? Should they drive the ballthe other way, the outside pitch,
the slider away. Are they tryingto knock it, pull too many of
it, not hit it the otherway to the right side, if you're
a right hander, to the rightside of second base. Yeah. I

(02:26:41):
think occasionally we get you know,we get a little pool happy. You
know, we got the cruffer boxesthat are pretty short and left field,
and you know, oftentimes, youknow we'll get you know, we'll get
pull happy, and you know thatchanges your swing a little bit. You
know, you talk about staying away, staying away, and then if they
make a mistake in you turn onit. And I think we could sell

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our sites, you know, awaya little bit. We've talked about that
with the hitters, and sometimes it'seasier said than done, and but you
have to keep your mind and themlook, stay focused, don't let him
get you off your game. Youknow, take that outside ball the other
way, because if you start hittingthe ball the other way, now in
the picture has nowhere to come butin. And so ultimately our guys is

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you know, they're gonna they're gonnahave to change their mindset. Some a
lot of guys have been doing it. Though. We've got guys that have
been going opposite field, you know, all year, and there's some guys
that have been a little pool happy. Astro's GM Dana Brown for his weekly
nine point thirty visit here on SportsTalk seven ninety Sean Salisbury show. All
right, with that in mind andtalking about you know, the Bregman,

(02:27:46):
for instance, moved him back tothe five hole instantly gets two hits.
Is it safe to say with thenaked eye that he's far more comfortable outside
the four hole, even though he'sa grinder. Maybe he's putting a little
pressure on himself what he's in thatfoe hole, and he may be feels
more comfortable in that spot. Youknow, that would probably be a bregnant
question, But you know, Isee pregnant as this guy who's at the

(02:28:11):
plate. He's grinding at bats everyday, day in and day out,
and at some point you just can'tkeep a good hitter down, you know,
and so uh, you know,we saw glimpses of it last night.
They sit up the middle of thepull home run and so you know,
ultimately, I just think he's gotto get locked in and then you'll
you'll get multiple games like what yousaw last night. And as I mentioned

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before, we need him to heatup. He's like a big part of
what we do here and we needhim, you know, to heat up.
So hopefully, you know, hecan get hot consistently and that will
change us offensively. Data Brown astrosGM for his weekly visit every Wednesday here.
Good to have him on all rightto the elephant in the room.
You see it, you hear itall the time. And we have a

(02:28:54):
lot of frustration, a lot ofbelief in the assos, but frustration with
sometimes the lineup, which is aJoe Spot deal. I get it.
But Dana, the questions you getasked, and I'll ask you this,
how do you run a break?You out there every day offensively and defensively
at first base? Yeah, Imean I think it's more so you know,
he's a veteran. You're hoping thathe turns the corner. You know,

(02:29:15):
we had him down in Florida.He was hitting over three hundred,
over at nine hundred ops. Wehad him there for multiple weeks, and
so you want to give this veterandie the opportunity to see if he could
turn the corner. And if hecan't turn the corner, then we're going
to have to deal with it.I don't I think we you know,
we have a ton of games,but in this season, so you know,
one hundred and seven games stuff,But you know, we we we

(02:29:39):
need to figure out, Look,is this guy going to be a guy
If he's going to be a guythat can turn the corner? Can get
hot and thought when he went onefor three in the first game with an
RBI, hey maybe you know he'sgoing to turn the corner. Last night
was a little bit more difficult.And so it's definitely a Joey Spider question.
But you know, as we moveforward, we know that if he

(02:30:01):
doesn't get hot, we're gonna haveto make a decision. How far away
is that corner, Dana? Canyou see it in your vision? Yeah?
I mean I could see it.I just don't know how far.
You know, how many games youwant to go? Ultimately, you know,
you may not play them every day. You may give them a day
off. You know, maybe he'llget a day off today, then you'll
bring them back. See what youcould do the follow him day. You

(02:30:24):
have to give them an opportunity tosee if you could turn a corner.
And uh, you know, likeanything else, if you if you can't
turn the corner, you have tomake different decisions. So go ahead.
Yeah, so, I mean it'sit's it's insight. I just don't know
how far it is. You know, it's it's insight. Though, this
is definitely where right now. Idon't mean this to be harsh, but

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is there a chance that father timesfinally caught up? Well, if all
the time catches up with all ofthem, no doubt. Yeah, well,
well we'll know at some point ifall the times catch it up to
them. I mean we out likeyou know what he was doing in uh
you know the FCL down in Florida. Uh, that was there were good
science and he was going to turnthe corner. And so you know,

(02:31:09):
we'll give him an opportunity, maybenot play them every day. Uh you
know, let him sit here,let them sit there, play him here,
play them there, give him anopportunity, and then if he can't
turn the corner, as I mentioned, then we'll have another discussion. How
does this affect Singleton's psyche after he'sdone a pretty good job coming in and
holding it down while a Bray wasgone. Yeah, I mean I think

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Singatore is a true pro. Youknow, he's uh you know, he's
still been in the game. Imean he's still played both games and just
was in the d H spot.I think he'll continue to get at bats,
uh because he held it together forus, you know, and this
run that we're on and so youknow, we just need to get hot
as a team. You know.I wish, I wish I could Michael
wave it, but the season isjust too long. I want to turn

(02:31:54):
it around just as fast as anybody. I know. We live in this
microwave age, and I'm I'm allfor it. I want it fast,
just like everyone else wants a fastBut we have to remember this season is
long. This season, this groupof guys, I could tell you this
and this, this group of guyswill at least have four big winning streaks

(02:32:16):
left in this season. And soif we continue to just play a little
bit above five hundred and we getthose winning streaks that come, you know
on this course of the season willend up you know, ten plus games
over five hundred. It's just youknow, it's a long season. We
have to play it out. Inbaseball, you cannot get frustrated. I'm
telling you you can. I've beendoing this a long time. If you

(02:32:37):
get frustrated, it will eat youalive. And so you have to turn
the page. Tomorrow's another day.It's like the game of life. Tomorrow's
another day. I'm gonna be bettertoday, I'm gonna do better today.
And so that's how we have tolook at it. And I got said,
you can't microwave this thing, Dana, and we'd spend so much time
we all do. We get caughtup in offensive numbers, and rightfully,

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so are you guys a World Seriesdefense. Yeah, I mean we have
quality defenders, you know, allthroughout our defense. I mean we're good
and right. We're good in center, you know, we're good and left,
depending on you know, who's outthere. I know sometimes you know,
we compromise a little bit of defensebecause we ought some squg in there

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as well. But you know,we're good at third, We're good at
short, you know. I don'tthink we're compromised at all. Defensively.
I think the team, the teamdefensively is good enough. You know,
you're gonna make areas. It goeswith the territory, you know, and
and sometimes the teams capitalize, youknow, on the errors. Just like

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what happened to us with the Aidsthe other day. They made a few
errors. I mean we we wewe capitalized on those areas as part of
the game. You're gonna win gameswhen other teams make errors. But I
think we're good enough defensively. Youknow, could we be a little better,
Yes, we could be a littlebit better at defensively, But I
don't think it's the defense that's holdingus back. I think it's a combination

(02:34:03):
of getting on all cylinders. Youknow what We're having quality at bats,
we're having quality starts, and we'regetting quality finish at the back of the
bullpen. When we hit those cylindersthat way, I think you'll see the
winds start to pile up right whereit's at. It's all about the quality
of bats, quality starts, qualityfinish at the end, and I think

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the defense is good enough all righttoo. Javier and Orkati, do you
have any updates for us on howsevere or lack of severity it is with
their injuries. Yeah, I meanwe're getting a couple opinions from our doctors.
I think we would know something withinforty eight hours on both guys.
And it's frustrating. We've been youknow, we've been battling this injury bug

(02:34:48):
and it's but I'm telling you,it's hurting, but it's not breaking us.
And so for the people out therewho think things are breaking or falling
apart, they're not. We're stillgood enough, you know. Even if
these guys you know, are downfor you know, an extra month or
two or whatever it is, we'llfind out the next forty eight hours.
We're still good enough in the rotation. We have five guys right now and

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they're given US quality starts. Imean, Blanco's been outstanding for us.
JV's turned the corner. He's beengood, Tramper's been better, and you
guys saw what Brown is doing.You know when Rogetti's turning the corner.
This team, this pitching staff isgood enough. You know, if we
have Paviier or Katie, that's gonnamake us even better. But ultimately we're

(02:35:33):
still good. That's not going tobreak us. You know, we want
those guys to be healthy, wewant them back, but we're still good
enough. Do do you anticipate thatit's going to be a long time off
with these two? I know yousaid forty eight hours, but is there
you know, we all have earlyreturns on our thoughts. Is this something
we should be concerned about that thisisn't like a microwave thing that will be
longer than we expect. Yeah,I can't tell right now. I know

(02:35:58):
or Kittie thing, you know whereyou had to set back. I mean
that's frustrating, I know to him, and so I'm really worried about that
one. But we'll see you inthe next forty eight But we'll find out
also about Javier. Let's let's hopethat it's not too long, you know,

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but when these things happen, youknow, pictures. That's why you
can never have enough pitching, pitchingpitching. You've got to have pitching.
You've got to have depth. AndI think we have the depth. And
so we want these guys back.But we're not saying that things are falling
apart. If they don't come back, you know, we have to stay
the course. We have to stayfocused. And but we'll know in the

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next forty eight And finally, isabout a third of the way pretty close
to the third of the way throughthe season or so. Right around there
is Joe Spotta adjusted well and thenpushing the buttons you wanted to push so
far. Yeah, I mean,Joe and I we The beauty is we
talk every day. You know,we have conversations about you know, the

(02:37:07):
night before sometimes we talk you knowthat night after the game. Uh,
you know, if it's something moredifficult that we have to talk about,
we'll wait to the next day,you know, if it's after a frustrating
ross, you know. So,but we we talk every day. I
think we're definitely both on the samepage, you know. You know,
Joe's the manager. We have togive him a little room to do what

(02:37:30):
he can do with what he cando. But we talk every day and
we you know, we try towork things out, but bet we put
the team first. So uh andultimately, I've been very pleased with Joe.
You know. We just have toget our guys hot, you know.
I mean, if if we didn'tget off to such a slow start,
you know, seven and nineteen,you know, and and our guys,

(02:37:56):
you know, ultimately, you know, we we had some guys that
were struggling, We had some guysthat were struggling early on. But when
we didn't get off to such aslow start, I think we would be
in a totally different place, youknow, you know, in the standings
one and we're in our record aswell. So I think Joe's gonna be
fine. Joe is the least ofmy worries. I'm not worried one bit

(02:38:22):
about Joe. I just think wehave to get hot as a team.
And you know, when we gethot as a team, the manager looks
smarter. So there you go,Dana. We appreciate it. Good luck
in Seattley's next two and good lucktonight, and we appreciate you and we'll
talk to you next Wednesday. Allright, I appreciate it. Hang on,
Asal fans, We're coming there.You go, Dana Brown, We'll
come right back and finish Sports Talkseven ninety. We're the Sean Salmsbury Show

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continued. If you missed, it'dbe up on our blog after the show
at Sports seven ninety dot com.Sean Brin and Tripoli here with you the
Astros and Mariners Tonight eight forty thefirst pitch seven thirty on Deck show.
Interesting things to note from Dana Brown, and again it'll be up on our

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blog after the show at Sports sevenninety dot com. Get in a couple
more opinions from doctors on Jose Orketyand Christian Xavier, Dana Brown saying that
he's quote really worried end quote aboutJose or Ketty's injury. Also, Jose
Bray, you I think, Ithink if he doesn't turn a corner here,
Sean, you might see him DFAthis year. Well, the corner

(02:39:31):
can't be far away, it can'tbe m mm hm hmmm. What do
you think about what he had tosay about Urkeedy and Christian Javier, Because
I think that's a bigger issue.I don't think it didn't sound anymore.
It didn't sound to me like likeit was an upbeat situation for either of
them. You have a hobber.I don't think you're gonna I mean,

(02:39:54):
just judging by that, I thinkthat you got to expect that it's not
gonna be anytime soon that you seeeither one of them pitch. And I
don't know what soon means in baseballterms right now, but I think it's
a little bit trouble. That's justmy opinion judging from the interview. Yeah,
I also I don't know, man, I don't have a good feeling

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about either of them. You wantmy take on it. I think both
are done for the season. Yes, are you not getting an argument for
me on that? Both of them? Not just her Ktie, I think
Christian Javier as well. When yougo down four ticks in velocity coming back
from the il after a neck injuryand they say it's mechanics, I mean

(02:40:39):
we kind of both knew that itwas not mechanics. Maybe a little bit
there, but also there's something goingon in that arm, forearm, elbow,
whatever it is. And I guesswe'll know and maybe later today,
maybe tomorrow, who knows, ButI think both are going to be out
for an extended period of time,if not the year. That's just my
personal opinion. They're gonna have tochange at first base. They're gonna have

(02:41:01):
to get hot with some of theirguys continually. Presley's gonna have to get
confidence back, and those two startingpitchers, I don't think you can count
on them anytime soon, no,meaning Javier and Orkati. So it's gonna
be an uphill battle the whole way. You gotta win sixty six games to
get to ninety wins. Good luck, Yeah, definitely good luck. Hey,
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