June 13, 2024 • 6 mins
Wrapping up their three game series in San Francisco, the Astros lose again to the Giants therefore losing the series 2-1. Still on the chase to five-hundred, many have begun to speculate beyond the new manager, injuries, players production, and lineups that there may be a bigger issue at hand.
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(00:00):
What about it? For the sewnSalisbury show continues talking about these Astros,
the struggles of jose A Bray,you frommer Valdez only throwing fifty nine pitches,
losing that series. See what you, the Astro fan have to say,
Mike. We appreciate you holding goodmorning. Hey guys. You know,
uh, I'm a big stat guy, and stats don't why we don't
(00:25):
hit well, we don't score runs, we don't pitch well. I mean,
you look at the top five orsix teams, usually they're the ones
that have the best record. Sothat's that's a given. The second thing
is is that I saw it lastyear and it's called winning fatigue after a
while teams. I mean, thisrun by the Astros is legendary next to
(00:46):
the Braves. And so what doyou do in this situation? You know,
I get tired of hearing another Bradiersituation. We know that, but
it's it's so more pasted a braid. You who plays first base? Uh?
What you The only thing you coulddo that I would suggest, and
I'm not saying it's a guarantee,but you would fire the coach. Not
(01:07):
not because I think coaches really havethat much to do with winning and losing,
but I think it's more psychological.The only guy you could hire at
this point in the middle season wouldbe Dusty Baker and the and the second
thing would be go out and goget Valley the Blue Jays. You need
a jolt. You don't need alittle band aid here and a band aid
(01:30):
there, because you could put Singletonat first and this team is not going
to be any better or worse.You need a jolt for this team to
to get back into hopefully a differentmindset. But winning fatigue is it's tough.
I mean, Salisbury, you knowthat. I mean you can't people
think it's winning and just comes easily. What the Astros are done is legendary
(01:53):
one Mike, thank you for thecall. I've said it. I told
you, first of all, youcan't take winning for granted. Winnings hard
well. There's only been one otherteam that's done it this long and modern
I think in the recent years inthe Atlanta Braves. Right when I say
modern, magmatics Smoltz and they hadone World Series to show for it,
but they dominated time after time aftertime. And you can you get to
(02:17):
a point where your expectation are thisis who we are all the time.
It comes to an end. Askthe New England Patriots and they won six
of those damn things and the divisionafter division. I mean, their run
is unprecedented. It's not going tohappen again. Well, I take that
back, because the Kansas City Chiefsmay. I don't know if they're going
to win six super Bowls and getto nine in New England where Brady won
(02:39):
his seventh and went to his tenthin Tampa. But it said that the
Astros are in rarefied air. Thisis not abnormal what's going on with them.
Everybody faces it. What everybody doesn'tface is winning. Getting the seven
alcs is in a row, right, That's hard to do. So this
(03:00):
this is fairly natural. Flounder arounda little bit, and there is winning
fatigue, and think about how manydifferent avenues you've got to go down to
keep that edge when you're the leaddog and everybody you're getting there every single
time. I'm not making an excusefor him at all. I'm as frustrated
as anybody. It's not just oneguy. It's a lot of things that
have gone on. But nobody wantsto hear excuses seventy five to eighty games
(03:23):
in right as we pushed towards thatmidway season mark. It just they just
don't but the winning fatigue, itdoes, and how to find new ways
to do it. They found alot of different ways to win over these
years, and they're trying to findanother one. Can they sure? Do
they look like the same team pushingeighty games in Brian that we've seen.
No, But they don't have tolook the same. But they're going to
(03:46):
have to finish a lot stronger andget a lot done. This is the
first time in seven there's been moreifs on this team than I've seen in
a long time. If they canbecome healthy, if the rookie manager can
step up, make good decisions,if they will make uh, if they'll
get to the trade deadline, ifyou know, if Bregman gets hot.
There's a lot of ifs. Yeah, And when you got that, you
know how I feel about that,dude. I've been saying it for years
(04:09):
with you. If you got toomany ifs surrounding it, that's not a
good thing. Right If you rightnow, you can't name five IFFs on
the on the on the Yankees,and you can't name five ifs on the
on the Phillies, those camp Theonly if on the Yankees right now is
what are they gonna do if oneSoto can only hit right and his elbow
issue and about the Garrett Cole andGarrett Cole that's it. But other than
(04:30):
that, they're gonna go. Youknow, Judge was struggling early. Judge
is playing Judge baseball right. Soit's this team has like I said,
we don't play him on paper.If we did, the Assos would be
ten games in front of first place. They would be, and so the
fatigue kicks in. He's right.Let's get to a bill real quick for
the break bill. What's your thoughton Joe Spot a year ago? Guys,
if you had a vault, youcould pull up a month or a
(04:54):
day in June. The same conversationyou're having involved playing Jack Myers. Can't
Martin Maldonado everythinking day. This townwas in an uproar because mamaldon is hitting
ninety, but they keep trotting themout there every time. This is the
This is the exact same scenario,just a different position problem, just a
(05:14):
different different and it's not the problemthe Astros have given up. There's only
three other teams in the American Youhave given up more runs than the Astros
this year, three four, there'sfour. That's the problem. This problem
is is a pitching problem. Andyou can play Joey Lo Berbido, play
(05:35):
anybody out there. This team's problemacross the board starts with the pitching starting,
middle and relief and a bill.When all is said and done,
it'll be the pitching that either getsYou can hit two twenty and still win
a division. Yeah, we've seenit. Just take a snapshot of last
(05:56):
year pitching and this year pitching.There's just nothing good about There's nothing really
collectively good about this year's pitching andthe way that started with injuries and the
rest of it in the in theconsistency, there's gonna have to be about
five dudes that have career years fromhere on out or it's not gonna listen.
The struggles is gonna We're gonna havethe same conversation in August, Bill,
it will just be a different rapper, Right, we just are with
(06:18):
this team this year. You're onehundred percent correct. Thanks, nobody's gonna
walk in nobody's gonna walk into Espotato play somebody else, right, like
anybody would have told. Nobody wouldhave told Dusty Baker, You're going,
Hey, you know, we're nottired. We're tired of seeing baldadata out
there. Can you play somebody else? Can you play as far as right?
See you guys. I appreciate it. Bill. Uh. We'll keep
talking about these Houston astros seven onethree, two one two five seven.
(06:42):
Hinty Bill, John willso get toyour calls next as we continue on here
on The Seawan Salisbury Show
What about it? For the sewnSalisbury show continues talking about these Astros,
the struggles of jose A Bray,you frommer Valdez only throwing fifty nine pitches,
losing that series. See what you, the Astro fan have to say,
Mike. We appreciate you holding goodmorning. Hey guys. You know,
uh, I'm a big stat guy, and stats don't why we don't
(00:25):
hit well, we don't score runs, we don't pitch well. I mean,
you look at the top five orsix teams, usually they're the ones
that have the best record. Sothat's that's a given. The second thing
is is that I saw it lastyear and it's called winning fatigue after a
while teams. I mean, thisrun by the Astros is legendary next to
(00:46):
the Braves. And so what doyou do in this situation? You know,
I get tired of hearing another Bradiersituation. We know that, but
it's it's so more pasted a braid. You who plays first base? Uh?
What you The only thing you coulddo that I would suggest, and
I'm not saying it's a guarantee,but you would fire the coach. Not
(01:07):
not because I think coaches really havethat much to do with winning and losing,
but I think it's more psychological.The only guy you could hire at
this point in the middle season wouldbe Dusty Baker and the and the second
thing would be go out and goget Valley the Blue Jays. You need
a jolt. You don't need alittle band aid here and a band aid
(01:30):
there, because you could put Singletonat first and this team is not going
to be any better or worse.You need a jolt for this team to
to get back into hopefully a differentmindset. But winning fatigue is it's tough.
I mean, Salisbury, you knowthat. I mean you can't people
think it's winning and just comes easily. What the Astros are done is legendary
(01:53):
one Mike, thank you for thecall. I've said it. I told
you, first of all, youcan't take winning for granted. Winnings hard
well. There's only been one otherteam that's done it this long and modern
I think in the recent years inthe Atlanta Braves. Right when I say
modern, magmatics Smoltz and they hadone World Series to show for it,
but they dominated time after time aftertime. And you can you get to
(02:17):
a point where your expectation are thisis who we are all the time.
It comes to an end. Askthe New England Patriots and they won six
of those damn things and the divisionafter division. I mean, their run
is unprecedented. It's not going tohappen again. Well, I take that
back, because the Kansas City Chiefsmay. I don't know if they're going
to win six super Bowls and getto nine in New England where Brady won
(02:39):
his seventh and went to his tenthin Tampa. But it said that the
Astros are in rarefied air. Thisis not abnormal what's going on with them.
Everybody faces it. What everybody doesn'tface is winning. Getting the seven
alcs is in a row, right, That's hard to do. So this
(03:00):
this is fairly natural. Flounder arounda little bit, and there is winning
fatigue, and think about how manydifferent avenues you've got to go down to
keep that edge when you're the leaddog and everybody you're getting there every single
time. I'm not making an excusefor him at all. I'm as frustrated
as anybody. It's not just oneguy. It's a lot of things that
have gone on. But nobody wantsto hear excuses seventy five to eighty games
(03:23):
in right as we pushed towards thatmidway season mark. It just they just
don't but the winning fatigue, itdoes, and how to find new ways
to do it. They found alot of different ways to win over these
years, and they're trying to findanother one. Can they sure? Do
they look like the same team pushingeighty games in Brian that we've seen.
No, But they don't have tolook the same. But they're going to
(03:46):
have to finish a lot stronger andget a lot done. This is the
first time in seven there's been moreifs on this team than I've seen in
a long time. If they canbecome healthy, if the rookie manager can
step up, make good decisions,if they will make uh, if they'll
get to the trade deadline, ifyou know, if Bregman gets hot.
There's a lot of ifs. Yeah, And when you got that, you
know how I feel about that,dude. I've been saying it for years
(04:09):
with you. If you got toomany ifs surrounding it, that's not a
good thing. Right If you rightnow, you can't name five IFFs on
the on the on the Yankees,and you can't name five ifs on the
on the Phillies, those camp Theonly if on the Yankees right now is
what are they gonna do if oneSoto can only hit right and his elbow
issue and about the Garrett Cole andGarrett Cole that's it. But other than
(04:30):
that, they're gonna go. Youknow, Judge was struggling early. Judge
is playing Judge baseball right. Soit's this team has like I said,
we don't play him on paper.If we did, the Assos would be
ten games in front of first place. They would be, and so the
fatigue kicks in. He's right.Let's get to a bill real quick for
the break bill. What's your thoughton Joe Spot a year ago? Guys,
if you had a vault, youcould pull up a month or a
(04:54):
day in June. The same conversationyou're having involved playing Jack Myers. Can't
Martin Maldonado everythinking day. This townwas in an uproar because mamaldon is hitting
ninety, but they keep trotting themout there every time. This is the
This is the exact same scenario,just a different position problem, just a
(05:14):
different different and it's not the problemthe Astros have given up. There's only
three other teams in the American Youhave given up more runs than the Astros
this year, three four, there'sfour. That's the problem. This problem
is is a pitching problem. Andyou can play Joey Lo Berbido, play
(05:35):
anybody out there. This team's problemacross the board starts with the pitching starting,
middle and relief and a bill.When all is said and done,
it'll be the pitching that either getsYou can hit two twenty and still win
a division. Yeah, we've seenit. Just take a snapshot of last
(05:56):
year pitching and this year pitching.There's just nothing good about There's nothing really
collectively good about this year's pitching andthe way that started with injuries and the
rest of it in the in theconsistency, there's gonna have to be about
five dudes that have career years fromhere on out or it's not gonna listen.
The struggles is gonna We're gonna havethe same conversation in August, Bill,
it will just be a different rapper, Right, we just are with
(06:18):
this team this year. You're onehundred percent correct. Thanks, nobody's gonna
walk in nobody's gonna walk into Espotato play somebody else, right, like
anybody would have told. Nobody wouldhave told Dusty Baker, You're going,
Hey, you know, we're nottired. We're tired of seeing baldadata out
there. Can you play somebody else? Can you play as far as right?
See you guys. I appreciate it. Bill. Uh. We'll keep
talking about these Houston astros seven onethree, two one two five seven.
(06:42):
Hinty Bill, John willso get toyour calls next as we continue on here
on The Seawan Salisbury Show
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