Astros Vs. Rockies Kickoff, Tennessee Wins College World Series, Florida Wins Stanley Cup Finals

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Salisbury Sury. Okay, let's dothis. Sean Salisbury to usc Truth,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, RyannLima, go Lobos. This is the
Sean Salisbury Show. Astros backing atyou. Tonight they will host the Colorado

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Rockies. Astros now just five anda half back of the Mariners. Seattle
follow them at Tampa last night.Rangers also followed Milwaukee so Astros one game
up on them. Salisbury, goodmorning, welcome, good to have you.
Well do you think about this?I mean, I know you could
handle it because you take on alot of jobs, but yeah, you
want to do it every day?Are you good? Just just just uh,

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this is something weird about being upin the dark. I just I
don't know if I could get usedto that. I don't know how you
guys do it. Yeah, Sun'salways up when I get up. Normally
it's when people wake up to adog needs to go outside, or you
got to you know, get upand do your thing in the morning and
to get back in bed. Yeah, I will say, I like the
no traffic thing. That's nice.Then go so that's that's as Yeah,
I get it. And then whenyou're done, traffic's done heading back on,

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So there you go. But yeah, good to have you in Man.
And it was a great sports nightlast night. And before we came
on, I was telling you therewas a lot of like first or been
a long times going into those theStanley Cup final last night, Game seven,
two deciding series, and then theobviously Tennessee and Texan at A and
M since the thirties, Tennessee's neverwon one. Yeah, and then with

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Edmonton they haven't won you know,it's weird, but and I didn't think
about that, but they haven't wonone since nineteen ninety a Stanley Cup.
That's a long time for them becausethey're used to the Coffee Gretzky, Messia
Curry group, right. And thenin Grant Fear and then Florida, who
has played a ton of hockey thelast two years because and then they finally
close it out and Lebroski plays greatand they win and they'd never won one,

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So a lot of or first orbeen a long time before you got
one, So a lot of celebration. It was a great sports night for
the non sports you watch every dayfor a hot matter of fact, and
I'm a big college sports fan,so I was all into the Culle World
Series, but I've I've flipped overand I was watching the hockey and I
know nothing about hockey, and it'scool. Everybody really wants a team here
in Houston, and it got youknow, the day the day they announced

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the teams coming here. Shall We'regonna have to have like a big sit
down and just learn the rules andteach everybody because because I had a hot
idea so I could do I canwalk you through that. Yeah, we'll
have you hold everybody's hand and walkus through what's this football guy do.
But I've been a hockey fan forever. It was awesome, but it was
exciting. Yeah, I mean twoto one game and you know, you
see the clock ticking down, It'slike, okay, wow, this is
this is getting intense. Yeah,and talk about in the broadcast. And

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I think Sean mcdonoughh does a greatjob and he did a great job on
a call last night, and sodid their their whole team. But it's
it is weird when you when yourcatdad is two to one and you got
the best player in the world onthe opposing team, right, and Connor
McDavid, and and then when you'rethe when you're the team in front,
when it's in eight minutes and sevenand you can't it feels like it takes
four hours. And then when you'rethe winning team, keep peaking up.

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Because we had two scores out ofthe gates, like yes, right now,
it was one to one with likefourteen minutes to go in the first
period. Yeah, and they cameout and jumped out. And then I
think it was in the second periodthat I'm trying to think it was late
first or second that Florida got theirsecond goal and then nobody scored and they
went five almost six minutes without Hell, the puck was in in Florida's in

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regularly and they kept you know,they didn't get a ton of shots,
but the pressure they were, Imean, the siege was on Vebrowski last
night, goaltender for Florida, andtheir defense was great. It was weird
and people you don't need to thrownames around because a lot of people may
not know him. But when yougot a one hundred point scorer in Leon
dry Sidle with McDavid and dry Sidledoesn't get a shot on goal in the

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final and does not score in theentire Stanley Cup Finals. That's only happened
like two or three times in hockeyhistory, and he doesn't great job by
the defense, and the Florida Pantherswent in their first Stanley Cup. But
it is and you're watching and shotson goal and a kick save and then
goalie loses his and you got guysflying in front of the net. It
was a great defensive performance. Andlike all sports, Gordy, it happened

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again last night in the Tennessee inthe Tennessee A and M game. Tennessee
keeps a and in the ballpark theyhit a couple home runs, so and
it was a weird ending, butat least defensively. They had a six
to one lead for most of ituntil the seventh or eighth inning. And
then in this where you got thebest goal scorer, like I said,
a guy's won the MVP three timesand ends up winning the Con Smyth Trophy

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on the losing squad, meaning theMVP of the series for the losing squad,
McDavid. And you only give upone goal and he only got two
shots on goal in Game seven.It was an impressive performance man. Great
hockey and good clean hockey. Lastnight. It was a blast and I
yeah, well we'll talk about alot of rules when they bring a hockey
team here. But there's nothing inmy opinion. And I know this is
a great argument and maybe in footballwill get it, but to me,

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there's always great drama. I don'tknow if there's anything, and baseball's got
great drama because it's slow drama,you know what I'm saying, Gordy.
To build up hockey, it's quick. I mean, they're playing fast and
you got to follow it. Butyour clock watching the Stanley Cup finals and
you live up to it. Yougo to Game seven, you're down three
to zero. They were just exhausted. They really had nothing left in them
at the end, and in Edmontonbecause they had to come back from down

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three and made a valiant effort,but you got to win four of them
and they couldn't do it. Lessepic collapse and incredible there is. There
is absolutely no doubt, and I'msure their fans were thinking about that when
they're up to one and and thepuck was in there in for like five
straight minutes at the end. Butit was a hell of a series and
a good College World Series. Twoboth of those were a thrill. A
few things on the on the hockeything. One I had no idea.

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I had to look up where theFlorida Panthers were there in Sunrise, Florida,
right outside Fort Lauderdale. Basically maybea little retirement community. Sunrise sounds
like anything with sun in like sunCity, Arizona. It sounds like a
Dell Web community where there's six it'sa couple retirement communities. Absolutely dull,

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bulkavi stuff. But what's crazy isyou know they win it with the Bay
lightning of one couple. Like Floridais becoming the mecca of hockey all of
a sudden, and do you knowthis Canada has still not won a Stanley
Cups. It's nineteen ninety three.Yes, that's crazy. It is.
It is sport, it is,it's it's absolutely it's actually it's like the

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equivalent of like Nadal or one ofthose guys not winning the French Open,
you know, for for twenty fiveyears when a guy wins it, like
twenty five years in a row.It's crazy when you think about Florida,
it's the best teams in hockey,you know, not the Montreal Canadians and
the Toronto Maple leafs. Now it'sthe Florida Panthers and the Tampa Bay Lightning
and the Dallas you know starts itis. It is incredible that we're talking

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what's that been, Gordy? Wouldyou say it's now? You said it's
it's nineteen ninety seven in the finals. Since then and there's only been seven
teams in the final? What's thatthirty one years? Yeah, that's thirty
one years and it's their sport.It's crazy, but you're right, Florida.
Who would have thought forty years ago? Hey man, Florida is going

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to be a dominant state when itcomes to the NHL. And here we
are. But a great, greatseries seven GameSpot It kind of makes you
think with the NFL and expansion,like if we end up in you know,
let's say ten years from now,we've got a team in London.
We got a team in Mexico City. Can you imagine we go like a
decade without a team in the USwinning a Super Bowl And it's like,
well, the Mexico City won theirthird Super Bowl right where the uh yeah,

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New z the All Blacks are winningsuper Bowls. You know, there's
the rugby team. This is oursport. That's what we're doing. There's
there's no ques. It's actually it'sa it's a pretty overwhelming stat when you
think about it, because when yousaid, what do you talk about?
Nobody from Canada, no team fromCanada is one of Stanley Cups since ninety
three, and only seven of thembeen in the final since, you know,
for three decades. It's craziness,man, it really is the other

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side. I mean, the collegebaseball was just outstanding as well, and
I felt so bad. I haveso many Aggie friends. There's so many
people in this city. I talkedto so many people were out of town
yesterday. They were like, ohmy god, I'm fully locked in.
Oh yeah, the Aggie is achance the first time Sin's nineteen thirty nine,
a chance to win a major men'scollege sports championship. It's crazy that
it's been that long, I mean, eighty five years since they've won something,

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and the major men's of any kind. Yeah title. Yeah, And
they were in position and they're soyou know, well coached and managed obviously,
and then with Schlosnegel and stuff,but it was tough. They just
couldn't, you know, well,the ball was in the ballpark, and
they just couldn't get any offense goingearly on. And it really wasn't and
I mean it's disrespectful. It wasn'tlike a dominant pitching It didn't feel like

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a dominant pitching performance. You know, there were some hits and just couldn't
push runs across, and then thecrazy ass eighth and ninth inning to allow
him to creep back in it,you know, and you got the driving
home run to put him up sixto one, and you're thinking, okay,
this over and then they just canget a run here, and you
get a base hit, driving arun here, and then like the little
league guy gets on first steal,second, you balk him to third,

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not knowing there's a guy and you'rethinking there's no guyn first and he's smiling
the way and throwing it was what'smy guy, Charlie Sheen's name in Major
League? What was his name inthe in the movie? Yeah, wild?
Right, So he's throwing it backto the backstop like three or four
times, I mean, passball,wild pitch after wild pitch, and then
finally sticks with that high fastball,gets a couple outs and then throws a

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wicked slider to win it. Itwas it was a bummer for a and
m easy to root for. Butalso Tennessee had never won one, so
you had two. You would thinkwith their the people that have come out
of these programs or programs. Well, now we were talking about the highest
paid coaches in the SEC, they'reall from the I mean the kais pay
coach in college baseball, they're allSEC coaches. And so you're thinking,

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if you don't know your thing,what do you mean. Tennessee's never won
one. So you had Vanderbilts andwe've seen a lot of LSU's but Tennessee
hasn't. So and they had theold Jack Nicholson Knight with all the stars,
you know, the Tennessee bats,all of them from Hypel and Peyton
Manning, the whole group there.It was. It was Rick Barnes sitting
next to Josh Hipel and Peyton Manning. I mean, it's it was crazy

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to your boy, Christian More thesecond basement for Tennessee first player to hit
a lead off home run in theNational Championship since nineteen ninety nine. That's
the last time the one seed wonit. So there was kind of this
curse of the one seed. Everytime the one seed, you know,
it's somall they never win it.So Tony iv I tellos a bunch kind
of breaks that curse. But thatkid can play now. I mean he's

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he's obviously draft eligible and I thinkthat was his thirty fourth home run of
the year and that ball jumped outof the park. Somebody's gonna love him
early in the draft. Come whatthe June free agent drafts, we might
in that game. That's exactly right. They go after the big league talent.
And it could have s A andM too, because I tweeted out
as soon as Tennessee hit that shotand it was six to one, I

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said, well that's game. Ihave the same thing, and A and
M starts to come back and it'ssix to two, and it's six to
three, and then the night sixto four, it was like, oh
god, are they and they're reallygonna pull this off? And you're saying
it's college baseball. The world says, you know that this is something crazy.
It's gonna end up fourteen to twelve, right, oh yeah? And
then and then you start to seewhat the I mean, the great,

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the great missed tag and slide athome plate and then you see the uh
the coming in and the and youknow their closes are throwing the ball all
over. We got handlebar mustaches fromthe left side, we got right handers
hitting the back of the backstop.It was a It had a little bit
of everything except A and M's homerun power in the game. Yeah,
and and I guess you love thelong ball. But what a what a

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performance down the stretch and just grindingand out. Two great managers, two
good baseball programs, and the shockingthing, like you said, that's just
as shocking as Canada not having aStanley Cup since ninety three, with Tennessee
and A and M, A andM all the men's programs, and now
Tennessee winning one with all the greatplayers that have come on and with all
the money and all the resources,how cay you know, win a championship

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and something when we return. Willtheir coach be back next year? That
is the big question. We're gonnahit on that. And the Texas Longhorns
they have entered the chat. Arethey gonna steal one of these coaches for
next season? We'll discuss that nextyear on the sewn Salzburg Show on Salisbury
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with our free iHeartRadio app. Historystands as the Aggies. It has been
since nineteen thirty nine since they havewon a major team sport, in a
men's sport. I had to lookit up, Sean, just to kind
of put this in in perspective.The men's outdoor track, track and field

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team won a national title twenty thirteenand twenty seventeen, and those are kind
of that's kind of it. Imean, everything else is in. A
lot of archery titles makes sense,bull hunters, some fishing, some paintball,
some powerlifting titles. I mean they'vegot a bunch of those, but
none in football, men's basketball,or college baseball. And they flirted with

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all of them. You know,it's depending on how Dal will last night.
Obviously you're right there. It's Ithink that's a shocking statistic. When
you told me that yesterday before whenyou come in here, you know,
we were talking about depending on thegame that I would discuss on Tuesday,
and I had no idea it'd beenthat many years since A and M won

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a men's title in a major sportscrazy. It's crazy too to think of
the football team, I mean,so many Southwest Southwest Conference titles. The
last couple of nineteen ninety one,nineteen ninety two and nineteen ninety three only
won Big twelve title in football nineteenninety eight. Nothing in the SEC so
far right and at their last Imean when they were were they fifth,

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finished fifth in the polls that oneyear, the COVID year their football team
did they finish they were, theywere in the top ten because they went
to they didn't win the Yeah,but yeah, that was that was the
best. That was the best footballsince like RC Slocum's years right when they
I mean when they were talking aboutwhen they're when RC was our defensive coordinator

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at SC and left and then endedup being the head coach at A and
M where they were playing that eightdefense and stuff and Southwest Conference as you
mentioned. But it's it's amazing tome. And you're right with all them,
and now with all the money andthe power in the program, I
think that'll change at some point,and especially if you can keep and you
teased about baseball, the schloss neggelsaround. He's built something really special there,

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and they were so close and hadone hell of a season. But
you know there's a reason why Tennesseewas a one seed. Well, and
now the big question is will Jimschlossdaeg Go stay at Texas A and M
of course yesterday, I love whenthe Longhorns try to steal some WME life
from other people. It's like it'sA and M versus Tennessee Game three winner

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take All the College World Series tonightair cups Texas. Oh by the way,
entering the chat, steal some headlinesgoing, Oh by the way,
we fired our head coach David Pearce, and we've got a national search going,
and we got all the money inthe world. And there's and has
there's extensions that haven't been signed onone side right in Tennessee. Yeah,
I talked about Buddy, he saidVytello if I Tello has had an extension

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on his desk for some time andhas not signed it. So that's going
to play into this. And thenSchloss obviously as all those years at TCU
where chrys Dell Conti, the athleticdirector of Texas previously was So there's a
lot of connections here and a lotof people I talked to yesterday said the
Aggies would not have made this announcementyesterday unless they already had their guy.

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So you know, they don't wantto do this big, long drawn out
process of weeks and weeks a week. So it could be somebody else,
but it very well could be oneof those guys who coached last night.
Yeah, and why wouldn't be?And if you're if you uh Vittello and
you haven't signed it, guess whatthat money? Yes, well you need
some wide out right because that's gonnathat the dollars are going to go up.
And we're talking about that two pointfive range. Think about dis Gordy,

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like the Rod Datos that I'll gothere, even the Augie Garridos of
the world. Mm hmm. Ithink how it's changed. We're and I
think it's great. We're playing collegebaseball manager and it's become one of the
great I think it's one of thegreat sporting events, the College World Series,
but the just the entire sea watchingin the SEC. We get such
great baseball, right is they're makingwhat you would have had to make had

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you would have to go coach,manage major League baseball. Oh yeah,
had two and a half million bucksand you got like you said, one
through eight is like seven of themare SEC managers or coaches now, and
so that number is going to bebetween two point five and three million for
Texas And I got news for youwith they're anil and collective and the way
they got money to go get recruits, but they got money to pay it

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too, and they will pay it. And it is a storied program.
I don't know if it's going tobe one of those two. It'll be
tempting, But man, can youimagine what a bummer for A and M
fans would be to watch a guywho's a great manager, did a great
job of building TCU's program back upand obviously has A and M in the
College World Series with a chance towin one run away and to have him

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head to Austin from college station,what a blow that would be. And
after the game last night, shawThing was asked about it, he said,
quote, I think it's pretty selfishyou to ask me that question.
To be honest with you, Ileft my family to be the coach at
Texas A and M. I tookthe job at A and M to never
take another job again, and thathasn't changed in my mind. Great quote.
You still didn't say no. Ifind it all. I always find

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it so interesting to shout out.These coaches can never just come right out
and go, no, man,look, look we just lost the title
here and but I'm not going anywhere. This is a and M thank you,
but no thank you Texas. Theynever say that. Oh no,
the door is ducking slam shut andthere's no dead bolt on it right now.
Now we'll see. He may justturn it down and love it,
But Texas is a I mean,you understand why the intrigued there, why

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somebody want that gig? Right,Sure, you get it and all as
it does if you stay. Bothmanagers or coaches as we call them,
and I don't know do we.We don't call their college coaches managers coaches
until you get to the big league, yeah, big leagues the trip right,
yeah, manager. So when theyI mean, there's gonna be a
lot of mice either way. Ifthey stay, wallet gets thicker. If

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they go, wallet gets thicker.And you can do worse than paying the
head coach at the University of Texas. But if you're Tennessee, you feel
pretty good in the baseball facilities andgetting better. And if you're at A
and M, you got everything youwant, including your head coach. Uh
do everything you can to keep them. But it's an intriguing job for for
Texas. Wouldn't it be like atop five football team in my mind,

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gordy coaching job come available with allthose resources and different I mean, when
a top five coaching job comes upin college football, everybody in the world
wants it. Right, whether it'san LSU job or Southern cal or Notre
Dame, everybody wants it. WithTexas, that's what this is in the
world of baseball. And they've gotthe money to pay it. Yeah,
it's great. I mean, DavidPierce wasn't bad there. He may he

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got to three College World Series withLonghorns, and you know, just couldn't
get over that hump. It's theRyan daytheg Yeah it is. It's you
got it. You gotta get overthat hump eventually and get us. And
it's a proud history, like yousaid of Augie and all those years and
championships he won. And it's beena while, man, it's been it's
been nineteen years. I think theysaid, they've won a College World Series

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at Texas. So while the standardsthere, I get. I saw a
lot of agiphan Why would our coachleave there? Y'all have won something in
nineteen years And it's like, well, y'all haven't won anythings. It's nineteen
thirty nine. So it's just backand forth. It's no doubt. But
you know it's like if you know, if they're gonna make a move on
David Pierce, the problem is yourcoach that's think of taking that job,
Well, that guy just did thatand he got to let go. That's

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a tough meectations, right, Imean, you know, going in it's
it's put a ring on your fingeror busting. If you haven't done it
in three or four years, they'llfind another one. That's just the way
it is. And you can't losethe rivals. And you got to make
sure you don't only get to theCollege World Series, but you've got to
be playing in the final and you'vegot to have a chance to win it
and more than likely win it oryou end up being replaced. And he

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did a good job there, butthe temptation, you know, ow the
recens he buys a temptation is thetwo manager you saw last night, the
two hottest guys going right now,because that's the land quite frankly, both
are really good and and both youknow, have built something really special at
their programs. And then the questionfor them is is the temptation to go
be it, you know, coachat a historic baseball program or continue to

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do what you've done where you areand it's and uh and build a championship
type resume there and still get paidyour money and not have to uproot and
take all the flack, especially ifyou're Sloss and he leaves, you know,
from the from college station to there. You know how that goes.
It's going to be. They wentfrom loving him and overnight everybody I'll hate
him from the aggie land because howcould he betray us like that? And

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I understand, my gut tells mehe's staying at A and M what about
you? Yeah, that's see.Had Tennessee loss last night, I would
my I would have put my favoritemoney on Tony Bettel tell me no question
about it, but he wins atTexas or Tennessee. I saw his starting
pitcher last night. Xander Seacrest saidafter the game, he saw the see

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ad Danny White in the back ofthe room. He said, I see
Danny White back there. I hopethere's a lifetime contract comer for coach V.
I mean, if you're Tennessee,you give him whatever he wants the
day. And what it is isif you're if you're Danny White, you
intercept Vittelli on his way down beforehe gets in there the celebration, like
in the hallway with a piece ofpaper in your hand, say, dude,
before you start to celebrate, well, I take that back, drink

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some champagne. Meet me in inbetween, like ten minutes into the celebration.
We'll get this done. Here's whatyou're gonna make. We've hiked it
up to two point eight million ayear with a chance to make three point
whatever. And then we'll keep youhere and we'll sign you for a decade.
I saw your phone blowed up thelocker room and your agent. You
ignore that before you call him back. Let me let's have a talker,

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Coach V. Let's play with withthe victory, and let's let's increase your
salary. I think that my gutsays, if both of them were offered
and it was that kind of pricethat Slostangle would be more app to stay
and Coach V would be more appto at least consider it more. I
actually have a hunch that. Imean, if you're both, why would

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you leave? Yeah? And shoutout to Richard Zane by the way,
kid, I know I got tomeet a couple of years ago, worked
with Texaggs. He's the one whoasked the question last night, and he
was getting a lot of grief fromA and M fans. How dare you
ask coach that? You gotta askit? You gotta ask it? I
like it. Yeah, So kudosto him for for asking that question.
And again Slaws said, you know, I'm happy at A and M.

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Why would I leave? All thatkind of stuff? So we're gonna find
out here. I think within thenext forty to seventy two hours, Texas
is gonna make an announcement. Ohyeah, we'll find out who you do
not. You don't let those thingslinger when you're Texas and you don't usually
have to. Yeah. All right, while we return here in the Shaw
Salisbury Show, we do need totalk to some astros. They did not
play last night, but they gotcloser they got closer to the Mariners,
and they got a little bit ofa gap with the Texas Rangers as well.

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We'll get into that coming up nextright here on the Shaw Salisbury Show.
But the Sewn Salisbury Show continued.At least they're nice, he said.
Every time I've been to College Station, they say howdy, they're nice
people. Good place to have itthere at Northgate, Tennessee. They you
know, if we've been there,they curse you out. The coach curses
you out. I mean, it'sjust like, I don't run and root

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for them. They don't seem likegood people. So that was his reasoning.
But I didn't really have the dog, and if I went when neither
team has won one before, itwould have been cool to see A and
M break the curse. But I'msure there's a lot of Longhorn fans and
U H. Kook fans and otherpeople in our audience that were saying,
deal with am I hope that droughtcontinues? Yeah, I was. I
was leaning A and M too.I mean, it's like I said,
I didn't have a dog in thefight other than I'm A and M.

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Because that's where my masters is from. And I'm root and farming the masters.
You know, my guys and theprofessors and the Master's program who were
so frigging Doctor Bennett and the restof them are great, and I know
that they were rooting. So forme, I was all A and M
on that one. And Schlosnagle hasalways been great to me when he was
at TCU, and anytime I interviewedhim, it was he was phenomenal.
So rooting for them. But I'mnever angry at somebody getting there first for

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Tennessee. And it was a coolcelebration and it was, you know,
to watch them win and the waythey won. But I I would have
if I was a betting man,which I am, but I didn't bet
the game last night. But myheart was with A and M for many
reasons. Then my kid went toschool there as well, So yeah,
all A and M for me lastnight. Well, I mean, if
you're an A and M donor,though, you got to be looking at
yourself going what more do I needto do? I've written checks, I've

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well and give more money. Yeah, that's true, But I mean their
facilities, I mean they being overthere, being in an aritholic department.
I mean it is. It istop notch. They have done everything they
can facility wise and all that.I mean, you're not taking a recruiting
trip there thinking, Man, theygot an upgrade. Yeah, exactly,
that's for sure. I mean youhad a snake oil salesman and Jimbo Fisher
that was. It was funny.I went to the coach's caravan a few

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weeks ago and heard Mike Elko talk, and somebody was telling me, man,
Jimbo thrived in this environment because hewould tell you everything you want to
hear. We're gonna do this,We're gonna do this, We're gonna and
you leave that going man, we'regonna win the national championship. And then
you go eight and four and fiveand go Jimbo all that stuff you said
in the off season, and it'sand the southern twang with the snake oil.

(25:07):
Oh dude, you're selling You're theonly thing that was missing was a
stage coach and the dog gun anda carnival. He took like a damn
auction here up there. I throwfootball for football. It's like I could
imagine being like having to transcribe whatJimbo was saying in a live press conference.
There's no way you'd have to goback and record it and keep rewinding
and able to talk his way intoone hundred mili brother and good for him,

(25:29):
he's had some success, but yeahhe was Uh, he could sell.
They just couldn't close. And hopefullythat the that A and M is
uh you know, does get backto playing good defense and scores more and
and uh they've been playing mean they'vegotten better. And then there's no question
they've gotten better and they're going toget recruits. The key is you've got
to keep people there, and you'vegot to keep a fence around Texas although

(25:51):
you're in the battle with the Universityof Texas and a bunch more and get
production from the quarterback position and keepthe Connor Wigman's of the world healthy and
see if you can pull it off. His gonna be a fun season.
I can't wait to see how theypull it off. The one thing I
like about Mike Elcho when we heardthis and all these recruiting trips is that
they said a lot of these recruittrips he has been taken last few weeks.
He pulls up in his in hispickup truck. It's just him there's

(26:11):
no entourage. There's no and theywere used to like Jimbo had come in
with a whole crew and he's inthe range Rover or whatever. No,
it's Mike Elco in his pickup truckas blue collars. You can get,
well most of the kids you're goingto recruit the upgrade and never I mean
for Mike, you cults show upin a pickup truck. My dad would
have loved to have that pickup truck. I know times have changed, but
yes, it's and I think andI you know, fortunately, training these

(26:36):
guys that go through recruiting some ofthese quarterbacks and just kind of listening to
them what they love and what theydon't now and you're to time when parents'
second question is, as you andI have talked about off there, Gordy,
how much money paying my kid?Right? But the reality of the
world is you just kind of wanta guy. I always tell him,
I say, find a team thatloves you as much as you love the
school, meaning to the recruit,and it's trying to find Authenticity's hard to

(27:00):
do because you're recruiting, and recruitingis nothing more than selling your program,
and you got to be sk andyou're telling the next kid he's a five
star kid. The next I meanyou got to understand that and be transparent,
not only as the recruiter, butthe kid that can recruited, and
understand that you're not the only onethey're telling us to. And I like
Elco's approach showing up in a pickuptruck. Yeah, not dropping in on

(27:21):
a helicopter on top of the guy'sroof like Santa Claus coming down again.
You know the chimney. Hey,yeah, I remember that years ago,
Kevin. Someone came to a gameand then the helicopter and it was like,
Okay, what are we doing here? But I mean, look at
what they're doing in your tea.They got all the lambos set up beside
the entrance. I saw some kidyou know, was posting on live Instagram
his visit to Texas, and allthe dads are walking about going wow.

(27:44):
I mean the dads are impressed.So I mean it's the fine line of
wine and dining me and impressed me. But also be authentic. Yeah for
me, If you just line upa bunch of vintage, old school classic
cars and trucks, you don't needthe Lambeau you can keep that. I'm
in, but we are of timethe talking points, just like you brought
up the Ferrari and the Lamborghini,or getting the talking points in the lime

(28:07):
green Lambeau out in front of yourlocker room before you walk in. We're
at a different point. And howmuch money you got in your wallet to
pay me? But the pay isusually reserved for the five star. Your
team's made up of three and fourstar guys and sometimes walk ons that earn
a scholarship. That's the core ofyour team. But you still got to
get the handful of great players.But then you've got to develop them,

(28:29):
and some schools have failed to dothat unfortunately. Well Carson Beck at Georgia
I saw a few weeks ago heliterally bought a three hundred thousand dollars Lamborghini.
I'm going bought least that. Imean, like it's driving around you
press people, but then you youdon't just permanently own that right insurance,

(28:49):
especially as a college kid. Yeah, driving around, but he probably also
well my insurance, now we gotthat too. It's good to be a
Heisman Trophy candidate, a top program. Now to the local bar. Are
you driving that to local. You'reparking it outside the local bar. Of
course you are, you just parkingyou What you do is you park it
four miles away and take you takethe uber to it, so you actually

(29:10):
put you actually take it from thegarage from your or from your apartment or
his condo or his high rise penthousewhatever he's staying in in Athens, and
you drive it close, maybe dropit off at Sorority Row, and then
you take because you don't wan anybodyto ding it with a scratch. But
of course you're driving it by andreving it up. If there's such thing.
Do we have? Uh, theydon't have valets in college towns,
do we We were down to thatpoint yet, all right, Yeah,

(29:33):
when you rev up the engine andyou pull up and you walk into the
bar, Oh there's there's Carson caris riding. But as the quarterback at
Georgia, you may not need thecar to pull you know what I'm saying.
Well, really, at Georgia,they've had so many damn traffic arrests
the last two years. They needubers like that's what they need. At
Il deals with know what they needalso is they need restrictor plates on every

(29:55):
vehicle that the college that those athleteshave. But you know, we're go
It's not put it this way,We're not going back to AMC pacers like
I drove in high school or pintos. We are. It's like gett an
eight carrot diamond ring and then goingback and offering your girl cubig orcona to
two carrot. Doesn't fly. Onceyou show the eight carrot your hose,
once you show the Ferrari, youdon't get to go back to the to

(30:18):
you know, the gremlin that wasmade back in the seventies. Let me
ask you this on the way out. If I get you had to put
five thousand dollars on the line thatA and M is going to win a
championship in football in the next sixyears, the national championship, national championship,
I would, as much as itpains made as well, as long
as it's not at the expense ofmy trojans, I would bet against them

(30:41):
winning the next six years. Theconference is too difficult and the road now
is going to be even more difficultbecause of how many you're going to have
to win. But I would saythat about put it this way, I'd
say that about it most programs exceptabout five or six of them. Yeah,
Georgia, Ohio States, you know, I don't know. Those are
two I would say are pretty muchlocks. They're gonna win a championship for

(31:03):
the next five six years. Yes, but depending on Alabama and what they
do there with the new coach,LSU is gonna be in it. I
would imagine SC is going to hangaround. Yeah, they'll be. But
there's probably five or six to eightprograms max that I would say, yeah,
I could. I could understand betfive grands the rest of college football.
I would take the under on thatand say, no, So you
think we can get to twenty thirtynine, we'd go one hundred years with

(31:26):
A and M not winning a majortitle. It is still possible. If
Shlasnegel stays there, I think theycan win a baseball title. Yeah.
Basketball is a difficult road, nodoubt. Football is the toughest road,
just because their own conference. Hell, if you the truth is, if
you win the SEC nowadays, youdamn near feel like you're win in a
national title. That's how good itis. Well, we'll see what happens

(31:48):
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is the Sean Salisbury Show. Getback at it going into the eighth inning
and the Tampa Bay Race. Comeback. Phil Mayton, former Astro gets
the win as they beat the SeattleMaarras four to three in Tampa last night.
So the Astros now just they startedto day six spit games back now

(33:59):
just five and a half back andobjects in the rear view, Sean getting
closer. Yeah, they sure are. And you know what's crazy is the
it's usually the Mariners that are theones chipping their way back in when you
got a lead on like they didthe night before in uh was it in
Miami right where they all they weregetting beat all of a suddeny close the

(34:20):
gap and close the gap and theyended up losing. But that's been the
way the Mariners have been this year. I'm telling you, Gordy, at
this time last week on Tuesday,if I'm not mistaken, there were ten
games out. Yeah, I mean, and you hear, I know,
we hear there's a lot of baseballleft. We hear it all the time.
Listen, you've literally blinked and inseven days they've gained four and a

(34:40):
half games, and they've played betterbaseball. They got two great pitching performances
over the weekend from Fromber and RenelleBlanco, who's been doing it Blanco regularly.
They had to play in one ofthose weird ass games where two innings
had a total of like fifteen runs, meaning the nine or so they scored
and given up seven late in intheir Friday night game and having to score
for was it twenty five runs inthe game between the two teams, So

(35:04):
they had to play in one ofthose fun games if you like the ball
going all over the place, butstressful games because you think, oh my
gosh, are we gonna end uplosing this winning fifteen to fourteen like the
winds blown out at Wrigley Field orFenway Park. So the way they've done
it, you're blinking. And nowtake a look, man, here we
are five and a half out,two games under five hundred, game to

(35:25):
half a game. By not playing, you got two games that you actually
should win here and you continue toapply pressure. And then you got to
New York and you should go thereand win too. They're not very good.
And here you are staring at right, I mean, smack dab in
a face, all this talk ofhow were we going to get to five
hundred? By the All Star break, you were a five and a half
out. And this time last weekwe came on the show, the world

(35:47):
was coming to an end because therewere ten games out. Stick of The
question was asked, is it apitchfork, is it a stake fork,
or is it a plastic fork,and here we are. The fork's been
removed, there's no there's no blood. Five and a half out playing better
baseball, and you have hope weregoing who those Jonathan I was through a
complete game shutouts right after covering theWhite Yeah, and his first win is

(36:09):
a rookie, right, he getshis first win, and you're like,
are you kidding me? And hereyou are five and a half out,
gained a half game last night andactually feeling real good. It's amazing in
baseball what a week does for forfor And I don't mean week w E
A K w E A K I'mtalking about week In seven friggin days,

(36:30):
they've gained four and a half games. Yeah, and Tampa getting it done
last night in Tampa, like Isaid, former aster and philm Mayton gets
the win, former astro and JoseSirie went two for four with a run
scored in the game. So someformer Asters helping us out. And then
how about on the other side,the Texas Rangers. They fall six to
three up in Milwaukee. So Iwas saying the other day, like we

(36:51):
let's not dismiss them because they wereonly half a game behind you, and
they're gonna hit Gordy even though theyare gonna hit. And you saw that
guy Max Shurzer just came back theother day. He pitched five shut out.
They look pretty good. So you'relike, oh, these Rangers,
don't let them get healthy. Wellgood, they go up to Milwaukee.
They lose six to three. Sonow the Astros a game, a full
game ahead of them, right,so this thing is starting to go your

(37:14):
way. Let me ask you aquestion. So as we sit today,
no deadline talk. I don't wantto hear about health because you know,
I mean not from you, forany of us. I'm asking you right
now, is this a world seriesteam today? I mean on paper,
yeah, I always have to startwith that. Yes. On pay wise,
it says yes, seem absolutely becauseit's still the majority of your twenty

(37:35):
twenty two teams. Still, right, You're still a majority of your twenty
two twenty two lineup. If not, you know, you could argue you
upgraded. I mean, we'll seeif they get a first basement at the
trade deadline. But like a catcher, you're better, you're better hitting with
with the Diaz there. So yes, I mean, on paper, this
can be a world team. Wejust swept a team that we had as
targeted as a World Series team andman handled them for the most part against

(37:59):
some really good pitch, No question, No, Clobn Burns and Rono Blanca,
you went toe to toe with thecorner and walking wain the cy Young
this year. Yeah, Clobyn Burns, no doubt. It's crazy and so
so your answer is yes, yeah, you mentioned power rankings. I guess
we'll talk about the seven o'clock hour. Will I be surprised in a good
way? Or are you kidding meway when you tell me where the Astros

(38:20):
sit in this one one was good. One was like what are they doing
there? Okay, fair enough,Well we'll get into that. But yeah,
again, just a great a greatday for the Astros. And by
the way, Seattle now eighteen andtwenty four on the road this season.
They are not a good road team. Kind of sounds like the end of
last season for the Astros, right, yeah, against bad teams, right,

(38:43):
I keep this in mind. Latessounds like their home record, beut,
I'm talking about their Astros home recordexactly the way they were playing.
Keep this in mind. Late September, the Astra second to last series of
the year Seattle here at Mini MadePark. What if that series decides the
division? Well, guess what thesecond the last series was on the road
for the Astros last year. Yeah, Seattle, and then go to Arizona

(39:05):
and have to take five or six, win a tiebreaker and win the division.
So does history repeat itself? Iknow we're all ways away from that,
but so you do give me yourthree real quick, top three teams
in the American League today. Ifyou're betting me five thousand bucks, who's
going to get to the Alcs?Give me the top three in the American
League get to the Alcs. Like, if I just had to put my
money on it, I would go, yeh, five grand, you gotta

(39:27):
bet it. I'm putting the Astrosin there just because track record. Okay,
probably the Yankees because they're just soloaded. I'm not buying the Guardians.
I just I'm probably going to Orioles. Right. You look at the
Guardians season so far, It's like, when do we finally buy in if
one six in a row, they'rethey're hot. I just I can't do
it, buy it. I getit. I can't do it. I

(39:49):
get it. All right, we'llreturn here in our number two Shawn Salisbury
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Salisbury Show. Oh I also sawhe took his squad to the beach yesterday.

(42:06):
Lima's hiding some guns though under there. Man, I didn't know he
that. Dude, I saw Lima'sbeach picture. I'm like, God,
I gotta get to the gym latertoday. What am I doing? You
gotta you know your your pre workout. Powder got to kick it in.
I told him, I said,dude, you got to quit taking the
Andro Steen day on. Man.You know, I would say, dude,
you winning chips on the beach.Is that wh're doing. We're training

(42:29):
on the beach now to win achip? Or is it that? It's
you know, it's the the PeteCarroll philosophy. It's taking bowling during Yeah,
where they were not thinking about baseball. Go win the chip. We're
Texas week and do that. Yeah, we'll see if the philosophy works.
Alabama used to do the Nick Sabentalways. They'd always go see a movie
before National champ Yeah, take yourmind off everything exactly. So I kind

(42:51):
of like his approach. You're awhiffletball on the beach and let's go play.
Let's go your headlines of the day, Texas and on baseball falls to
Tennessee game three of the College WorldSeries and om all. Last night Florida
Panthers beat the Edmonton Oilers two toone Game seven of the Stanley Cup Final,
and the Astros back in action tonight, hosting the Colorado Rockies, now
just five and a half games backof the Seattle Mariners, and Sean I
was reading through some of the thepower rankings that they put out yesterday and

(43:15):
the CBS Sports Power Rankings. Theymoved the Astros up yesterday, coming out
of this weekend sweep of the BaltimoreOrioles and having won five in a row
just a week ago. CBS Sportssaid the Asters rank twentieth in their power
rankings. Yesterday they moved them totwelfth. That's a pretty big jump up
eight spots. And their description wasthey said they're as close to five hundred

(43:38):
as they've been since they started theseason. Oh and two does a and
that's a that's what eighty games?Damn near says seventy some games thirty eight
and forty Yeah, so well that'dbe seventy six games since there's seventy six
games where sure, and they're tootwo blow five that's exactly right. The

(43:58):
interesting part about that when's the now. I don't know. Maybe on a
regular basis, the AY sub fivehundred team is towing the top ten in
power rankings. Yeah, well,I want to tell you it goes back
to your paper comment that I thinkthe national pundits, while people get pissed
at respect not getting the primetime playoff, the national media, when it comes

(44:22):
to just knowing the talent, andI think opposing teams still hold the Astros
in high regard. Yeah, becausethey see that paper two say, come
on, Bregman's not going to hittwo forty, Come on, Tucker's going
to be back in the lineup.He's an MVP candidate. I think they
start to see that and say,and they're doing this with all these injuries.
They start to build it up andsay win right, They're as dangerous

(44:44):
as anybody. So I'm not surprised. But that's a hell of a jump
in a week, and it goesback goes to show you what they've done
in a week and how they've madean incredible headway into the division and made
everybody believers. I mean, we'retaking postgame calls on Sunday and people like,
I mean, this team good tothe playoffs. I'm like a literally
a week ago, you guys aresaying, trade this guy, trade that
guy, Pitchfork. It's crazy.But this is why I always say it.

(45:07):
I try to stay in this too. Like it's one hundred and sixty
two games, Like it is along season. It's ebbs and flows.
Even the two championship, the WorldSeries, teams here had had series they
got swept, had times they lostfive in a row. It happens.
It's a long season. Well,there's no season where there's more ebbs and
flows in sports than baseball. Yeah, I mean, you you know,

(45:29):
and I know because it's longer.But even hockey playing their eighty two games
of the NBA you don't usually seeListen, when you're the Boston Celtics.
You're not gonna lose seven straight orseven out of ten three times during a
year, right, or you're notgonna get swept. But I mean,
we don't play three game series orfive game series or four game series until
you get to the playoffs. Obviously, with in the NBA. Point is

(45:50):
is that there's more oh my gosh, And like I said, it's the
it's the actual the slowness and themethodical part of baseball. That even makes
it worse because it's it's set andthere brewing, right, it's simmerin,
and we all go through it.Oh they've lost three, I know they're
done well, they got one hundredand forty more to go. But you
do because put it this way,you take the losses and apply them far

(46:15):
more what's the knee jerk reaction thanyou do four game win streak, four
games olk we're still a little,you know, little guarded with it and
we tread lightly. But a fourgame losing streak and you're like that,
they're done different and we all havethe tendency to react much harsher to losses
than we do much more favorable towins. So that was CBS Sports their

(46:37):
power rankings. They moved the Astersfrom twentieth to twelfth. MLB dot Com
Power Rankings, they move the Asterersfrom twenty two to sixteen. And here's
the descripture. They say they're twentysix and sixteen since May ninth. That's
the fourth best record in the majorsin that timeframe. But they have the
Rangers ranked fifteenth. They have theRangers a spot of ahead of the Astros.

(47:00):
And they they argue, well,with Max Shuers are being back and
looking like Scherzer and Rookie, whyattLangford turning a corner? He had a
Grand Slam on Saturday. He wasbatting three ten in the month of June.
They've got the Rangers one spot aheadof the Astros. They just found
it very interesting. Now, thiswas yesterday before the Rangers lost, and
they're now full game, a fullgame behind the Astros. Yeah, dude,

(47:22):
have they taken into account, likeyou just said, they got Shres
are back and Langford's playing good baseball? Have they taken into account that the
MVP candidate hopefully, And I don'tknow when, but if you're thinking,
I think, well, it's atsome point sooner than later, you'd think
Kyle Tucker is going to be backplaying, right, I mean with a
bone bruise, and they keep tellingus that there was no bone damage.
It's a hell of a bone bruise, right. But at some point,

(47:43):
so you start to taking the bigpicture and you say, well, and
I know they're the reigning World Serieschamps, so they're going to get a
little respect and Bruce Bochi does ahell of a job. But yeah,
they got him ranked up there basedon a rookie and Max Scherzer's five innings.
Even before Max Scher's got his fiveinnings in right or No, he
had had his five shares of pitchersthe last two twos. It was over
the weekend, So got him back, And I get that, just like

(48:06):
you had mentioned, getting sures Areback obviously gives you a little bit of
five hour energy boost. But ina series right now, I'd still take
the Astros, But I am withyou. I don't think the Rangers are
going to go away. Yeah,And just like the Astros have had their
struggles, the Rangers at some pointare going to go on a rake fest
where they're hitting and scoring six,seven, eight, nine runs in a

(48:27):
in a five, six, sevengame stretch. They will. And so
it's still going to be a threethree team run and hunt before the season's
over. What if I tell youit might it could be more likely that
this becomes an Astro's Rangers race andSeattle falls out of this thing in a
couple of weeks. Yeah. Thequestion is of the three right now,
considering health, who's pitching staff doyou trust the most? Right now?

(48:50):
Yeah, I'm going to Seattle.Yeah, exactly so. And if that's
the case, but of the three, you know, I'll always take the
other two with with a put thisway, the pitching staffs win healthy,
are going to be closer to theMariners. Then when all three teams are
rake, and then the Mariners aregoing to be to the Astras and Rangers.
Does that make sense. Yeah,there's a bigger gap in the hitting,

(49:13):
I think the talent at the plate, then there is pitching pitching.
The Mariners are the class right now. Now if everybody's healthy, if he
had the Grom pitching his regular andSchurezer and Verlander's back and Garcia comes back,
and you're okay now, or atleast in the conversation. But when
it comes to bats, if allthree teams get hot at the plate,
you know who's finishing in third atthe plate the Seattle Mariners. So take

(49:35):
into but right now the pitching staff, you'd trust the Mariners the most.
And here's what they wrote about theMariners and their power ringing. So they
got them in the top ten.I believe sixth. It says, well,
the Mariners regret not having taken outthe Astros while they had the chance
On May eighth, the Astros weretwelve games below five hundred and in last
place. On June eighteenth, theywere still ten games behind Seattle. Fast
forward to now when the Mariners tooktheir foot off the gas pedal. This

(49:59):
week the Astros went out and wonfive in a row, and now the
division lead is all the way downto They said six games, now five
and a half. And the Rangerswere creeping back as well, So seven
games four and a half game.They went from ten to five and a
half. That's in a week.And what did Dana Brown tell you last
week that by the end of Julywe want to be within five games,

(50:21):
Yes, and he said we're notthinking He said division, not now.
He said get the five hundred bythe All Star break and by the end
of July. Because I have Isaid, where's the cutoff point of like
where you start to think, okay, there the urgencies. It's more than
just urgent, it becomes I thinkwe He even used the word desperation or
panic right into July. And withinfive games, well, guess what,

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he's a half game. He's ahalf game away from that one loss and
one win. The loss by themarin is a win by the Astros today,
and guess what, You're your fourand a half out and you've already
done. The key is not onlyfour and a half to stay there,
meaning stay within that five games asyou continue over the next All Star Games,
Let's say sixteen seventeen games away forthe Astros. So you stay in
that mode and then go. Thenyou'd have to say, with experience,

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the Astros now become the hunted insteadof doing the hunting because of who they
are. And just to play thisthing out. You got the Rocky two
with the Rockies, so expect themthey should win both these Hunter Brown and
Spencer Raghetty pitching Rocky Stink. Yougo to New York to play the Mets
this weekend. By the way,we've got a stupid Apple TV game on
Friday. Yeah, great, luckyus. Let's say you take two out

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of three against the Mets. Yougo up to Toronto for four. Let's
just say argument sake, you splitthose four, you go two and two,
you come home, or you goto Minnesota. Let's say you lose
two out of three there fair enough, you come home for Miami. You
should, you should out of three, and then you hit the Rangers for
a very important three game of rightbefore the All Star Break. You take
two out of three. There,you're above five hundred. You've closed the

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gap even more with Seattle. Imean, like what I just said is
not an unrealistic thing. It's notit's not anywhere near out of the realm
of possibility. And we're setting theirtake to listen, the Mets and the
Marlins and Today's Colorado and this yearthe short series of Colorado, they're all
sweepable in truth. If you getreally good pitching performances, you will just

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don't go in there and give ita White Sox type perform you know what
I'm saying, where you can't letthat happen. But there is and Dana
said last week, I said,is there or take it with Steve Sparks,
I asked him, He goes Sean, they will not take the Colorado
Rockies for granted, he said,this team has a different way to approach
it and it's who they are.And we'll see if that's the case.
Because you know, human nature isGordy. When that happens, you know,

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you go sweet the Orioles and you'regoing good. Is not to take
it, for granted, but toalmost you get comfortable and casual mostly at
that's human nature. But they're ina position right now with the way they've
played this year that I don't thinkcomfortable and casual are going to be part
of their repertoire or their verbiage thisyear. There's got to be a sense
urgency no matter who they play.Could the Astros make an upgrade to their

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roster or re turn thirteen trade candidateson MLB dot com and some Astros names
LinkedIn here on guys that the Astroscould add. We'll discuss who those guys
are coming up next. I'm backto the Sean Salisbury Show. All right,

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Sean, what are you hearing outthere now? The Salisbury's takeout Salisbury
Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.Continue on here The Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talks seven ninety. Chris Gordianfor Brian Lima today and Sean, I

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kind of wanted to pivot the SalisburySteakout today into the Astros and potential trade
candidates. See who you think ofsome of these names rumored to be out
there the Astros could add, asMLB dot Com has put up thirteen top
trade candidates and their potential fits.Some interesting names being thrown around here,

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and first one we'll start with isa left handed pitcher by the name of
Tyler Anderson of the Los Angeles Angels. He's rebounded from a down year with
the Angels last year, has atwo forty eight ERA in his first fifteen
starts of this season. Signed forthirteen million dollars this season the next,
but given the need for rotation helparound the league, the Angels figured out

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suitors. He's been excellent as oflate, pitching a two point zero ERA
in forty five innings over his pastseven starts. And those three teams as
potential fits Sean Red Sox, Cardinals, Astros. All three have playoff aspirations.
Would the would the Would the Angelsbe willing to trade in the division?
All right? Listen, the Angelshaven't been the smartest decision making baseball

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team over in the last handfull ofyear, so I believe they would if
they got the right price for itor the right prospect for it. Left
hander add another left handed starter wouldn'tbe a bad thing here, right to
go with Fromber wouldn't be a badthing with the injuries, and I for
one, Gordy, and maybe I'mwrong about this, Maybe I look at
it and I don't know how youfeel, and with you and Stan have
talked about regularly on this. Excuseme is I'm not counting anything. Garcia

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and mccullors give me is bonus.I'm not counting on it, but I'm
hoping for it. Does that makesense? So if you can go get
a guy that isn't overly expensive andnot have to mortgage a which you don't
have a lot of prospects, orif you wanted to throw one of your
day, every day players in togo get him, I don't have a

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problem with I think it's something youhave to consider. I don't think there's
any way in hell, whether they'rewithin four and a half games or three
and a half games of the Marinersthat the trade deadline or not. I
don't think you can go the restof the season because again, somebody's going
to miss a start or two likeVerlander has here going down the stretch.
They just are you need seven eightstarters these days? I don't think there's
any way in hell you can outof this All Star break slash trade deadline

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just after it without getting a pitcher, and the money seems right and the
fact that you'd have another year onthe on the you're not renting him.
And yet do I think the Angelswould be crazy enough to do Yeah,
because the Angels are no threat inthe division right now, So yeah,
I do yeah, And they needto be thinking, no doubt, selling
everything, no question. Very interesting. That's a good name. We saw

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him a couple of weeks ago.Another name on this list, but they
do not list the Astros as aas a candidate. Garrett Crochet the White
Sox. I think the reality iswith him, he's one of the best
in baseball. It's going to takea large haul. And I just don't
think the Astros have the arsenal togo get a guy like that. Yeah,
and that arsenal would be prospects andprobably an everyday starter, And I

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don't think that you want to dothat. I do think that the White
Sox can hold some teams high.And the longer you wait, as you
know, Gordy, if this kid, if this continues to happen, and
teams there's so many teams hovering arounda chance to still make you know,
we got a lot of teams inbaseball they're in position to make the playoffs
at this stage of the game,a lot of them that are still that
aren't twenty five games out. SoI think he's going to be one of

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the prizes, if you want tocall it that, at the trade deadline.
So you would have to and you'llfind a desperate team that's going to
have to give more. I don'tthink the Astros are going to go into
it desperate. I think they needto get a pitcher, but I don't
think you need to show desperation,and desperation means you'll give up too much
for him. But I don't thinkhe'll remain a White Sox when the trade
deadlines passed. I think he'll besomewhere else. And he's twenty five,

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he's got two more years of arbitration, multiple years. So that's a guy
that they're going to get a haulfor another guy from the White Sox.
And this guy they did put theAstros in on is Eric Fetti. And
here's what they say. His returnto the majors has been solid as a
right hander, has a five toone record of three zero nine ERA over
eighty seven or third innings in itsfirst fifteen starts. He did sign a

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two year, fifteen million dollar deal, so an acquiring club would be taking
on the remainder seven and a halfmillion next year, very reasonable price for
a reliable starter. It would putthe Astros a thing, you know,
over that tax threshold depending on youknow, what's gonna happen with Verlander and
all that. But this is aguy that could be added to irritation this

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year and next year, which yougotta be thinking about because you know Howveer
and Arkidi are coming back to theleast middle of next season if they're lucky.
That's if they're lucky, Gordy,that's nowadays twelve months. That'd be
like remember when Adrian Peterson came backlike seven and a half months. Yeah,
exactly. We're almost to the pointwhere it's like you're asking maybe a

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little too much. I've always saidwhen you feel like you're ready to take
another month. I used to saythat about knees because I've been through two
of them. We always want torush back and sometimes you're not ready.
But with that, now, see, Gordy, maybe you can help me.
I know I know who he is. I haven't seen enough of him
to know do you trust him tobe an everyday workhorse? I know his
record says it. I don't knowenough about him. The price is right,

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and I've watched him pitch a little, but I don't know enough about
his grind. Because innings are goingto start to take their toll on Arraghetty,
on Renel Blanco, on Hunter Brown, you would think, what kind
of bulldog is he? Do youknow enough about him? I know a
little about him, not a lot. Six seasons with the Nationals. That's
where I know him the best.And he really only became a full time
starter in twenty one and twenty two. Made twenty seven starts in each of

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those seasons and now which is prettygood nowadays, get to show it shows
that he has durability. Yeah,then sixteen starts so far this year in
Chicago. Again, not a nameit's going to blow you away, but
definitely a name that's duable. Logand innings right and log and start,
which is a good thing which theyneed because Steve Sparks is constantly set on
here. One of his concerns isthe taxing of the bullpen. If you're

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not getting you know, when Blanco'sgetting you six or seven innings and Frommer's
getting you a complete game one startand then seven innings two starts later.
Those are the type of starts youneed. So maybe he's one of those
guys. Because I even asked DanaBrown. I don't know if you heard
this part of it, Gordy.I asked him about it was either last
week the week before about a frontline starter. He goes, well,
I don't know if there's going tobe many frontline starters available right and getting

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back to Crochet, that may bethe top front line starter, but it
isn't going to be like the Verletor that Max Scherzer or Jacob de Grommer
available right like like we've seen certainguys or cease, you know, when
the last year when the White Soxwere talking Dylan seas available, Dylan seas
available. I don't think that guy'sgoing to be out there. So what
do you consider is the third startergoing to be considered a frontline guy that

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you're going to get. I don'tthink it's going to be an oh my
gosh, trade deadline for pitchers.So maybe a seven and a half million
dollar pitcher who logs, innings andstarts. Is the type of guy you
want. Here's another guy. Thisis at MLB dot com. They're a
top trade candidates at teams with potentialfits. Another name that he puts the
Astros his potential fit. Left handerfrom the Angels, Matt Moore More signed

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a one year, nine million dollardeal January twenty seventh. He's thirty five
years old. Struggled during the firstmonth and a half of the season,
but he's allowed just two earned runshis past eleven innings. He's still effective
against lefties, lefties bouting just oneto ninety one against him. They say,
could also, you know, justbe a good bullpen depth piece for
a team. Former you know,big time starter in Tampa Bay many years

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ago, but it has been relegatedto kind of a multi inning bullpen guy.
But could be a piece. Maybethey think, if we're not gonna
add a rotation piece, maybe MattMoore could be. Well those guys just
pitch those multiple innings out of there. Or a guy like we've seen in
the past from Hunter Brown or aJP France who can give you both right,
Yeah, if you go with ayou say, well, we've got
to go six. We need asix starter because well, we're playing a

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lot of baseball and we don't wantto tax Verlander when he comes back.
Maybe he's that guy who gives yousome long relief in the middle and also
can spot start for you. AndI know this obviously with you said the
last eleven innings he's given up twoeur in runs. Is they're gonna score
more for him here than they doin Anaheim, so he'll have run support.

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So maybe that's the type of guyyou go get that you say,
Okay, he can log innings forus from the bullpen, but also can
come in there and give us somequality starts without having to be a guy
who's in a five guy rotation.Part guy. But that may be very
well be the versatility type of guythat they do need. The last name
on this list, and this isthe one that's most intriguing to me dalyst

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Andrew Vaughn, first baseman for theChicago White Sox. And you notice how
everybody on the White Sox is abag. Yeah, I mean it's I
think they had cal Quadrille from thefrom the Rockies. It's a lot of
Rockies Angels and White Stocks. O. This sort ye. But here's what
going to say about Andrew Vaughan.He's not headed for free agency this offseason,

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so the White Sox might not beinclined to deal with twenty six year
old, but the first baseman couldbe one of Chicago's most intriguing trade chips
because he's earning three point twenty fivemillion this season, will be arbitration eligible
for two more years after this year, and he bounced back from a slow
start batting slashing two eighty nine withnine home runs at twenty seven Ribbies in
his last thirty six games since Mayeighth. After hosting a four to seventy

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one ops with no homers in hisfirst thirty four contests, the season numbers
are he's botting two thirty six.So it's we've seen that movie here this
year, right, Yeah, Imean, at least a start. It's
not super higher than John Singleton's twotwenty two batting average. But what I
like about this guy, Sean ishe's twenty six team control for the next
couple of years, and he's gotsome pop in the bat. He had

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twenty one homers last year seventeen theyear before. Strikeout numbers are a little
high. But this could be aguy you acquire and you just plug him
and he's your first basement for thenext couple of years, and stick him
in the seven hole and let's seewhere he and with a chance to drive
and runs at the back end ofthe lineup, so you're not power heavy
at the top, which is niceto have, but you don't want to
be just power heavy at the top. And then with the control, And

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doesn't this sound like an Astros guy. Gordy not expensive, got control.
He's still young, like you said, what twenty six years old, twenty
five, twenty six years old,and you're not going to be in a
hurry to have to go out andempty the bucket for of Lad Guerrero.
You don't have to go Paul Goldschmid, who's also gold Schmid's productions down.
So you get a guy who andalso the pressure of him not having to

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come in and hit twenty five homeruns for him it least this year.
And put it this way, you'renot gonna be going south with production with
Vaught. I think it's an intriguingone as well. And the control is
a big part of what the Astroswant to do. I can see that,
and I understand why you're intrigued withit. I'm just I'm looking to
see where he beats it. Alot of times they got him batt in
two hole for the White Sox.There in some games you spat five holes,

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so he ain't seeing the first fivein this line. Yeah, exactly,
So that would be intriguing. I'dbe interested to talk with the with
the Chicago White Sox. What wouldit take to get an Andrew Vaughn.
That's one that would intrigue me.And again, not one that's not gonna
grab all the headlines, is notgonna lead Sports center. Yes, give
me a sexy pick, but itcan be a helpful one. Yeah,
And honestly, it's better than JohnSingleton. And that's the reality of where
we are now with that first basespot a fact. We'll return here to

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The Sewan Salisbury Show. Got plentymore we got to get into. We
do have an NBA draft happening tomorrownight, and you're Houston Rock gets picking
third. Not the sexiest draft ofall, but who are some of the
names being thrown out there? We'lltalk about that next. I had to
live there. But the Sean SalisburyShow continued, the Stanley Cup Final and

(01:05:14):
the baseball last night, and allof a sudden, an advertised I mean
a promo comes up teasing it andI've said, what'd you just say?
And I'm thinking, yeah, it'slate June, it is time for the
NBA Draft. I had completely forgottenthat we are days away from it,
and haven't even mulled over what theRockets are going to do with the three

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pick. It's a it's a sexypick, but not a sexy draft.
And I got news for you.There's not that one name that comes out.
Wabin Yam is not in this draftat least where the constant talk is
we got a generational talent, right. There may be some are saying it
about Peter, but are we surewho the first pick of this draft's going

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to be? So it's a coupleof frenchmen. Yes, did you did?
You've seen on YouTube? But noother place? Right? And uh
about all of us days Ola,there is no Tony per in this draft
or Victor there is? Uh,Zachary I would see it's it's it's spelled
like Rissacher, so I would assumein Francais it would be yeah, Well,

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in my in my tape study athim, Gordon, uh huh is
my breakdown of him. What's thatplace in New Orleans that has the great
uh, the the great desserts?So what's that called? You know,
the famous place? Oh? Yeah, yeah, the powder? I mean
what's what? Yeah? There yougo, there you go. He he's

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had a good run there. No. In my tape study, which has
been very uh zero. Other thanseeing a few clips, I know nothing
about his game. Uh. Thisis where you slide into mel Kiper and
just go. I mean this kid'ssix foot nine pounds out of France.
I mean tremendous upside. You gottaget upsided. Oh yeah, very well
respected all over the international scene.Right, you know, just knows what

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physical basketball is. Like, here'sanother one. You can start to throw
what you don't hey, listen,guy can put the ball in the deck.
He does a he's a spot upguy three and d uh you just
start to throw in you just startto muddy it with with with basketball lingo
or draft talk or listen. Thissmall fords less power forward. So now

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I mean this guy could play multiplepositions. Yeah, oh yeah in a
in a league where we're sometimes positionless, right, The guy can even handle
the ball off the point if heneeds to. So really he's a he's
a four position guy, right,Okay, well great, thanks Captain Obvious.
So there you go. The guyprojected to go second is Alexandra Sar,
one of the great essay are are. He has a center from France

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seven foot one five, but Gord, he plays a lot smaller. Yeah,
because he could take it out.He could take it out to the
perimeter. Here's one for your weband Yama lights. You know, he's
not as good as but like thisis this is like his clothes back up
brother. Once he matures a littlebit. But really, really, I
mean not afraid to take the shot. The key is he's gonna have to
be put beef up on the defensiveend. It was funny I was reading

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somebody they were saying last night.They're like, when it comes to these
evaluating, these guys are like it'salways the same, just generic stuff,
like can create his own shot.Yeah, you know, it's all that
kind of stuff. But he's like, how about you throwing some other things?
Like it's really good. Teammates,really guys really respect him. Oh
yeah, hey, listen the talkout of France is the guy fits into
the locker room and isn't afraid totake the shot with the game on the

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line. Really, and he's areal good distributor of the basketball too.
Goal now concerns you know, eatsa lot of croissants, could get eat
himself out of there's a lot ofsmoke breaks. I mean, he's always
got a cigarette in this in anda hard decision maker. No, I
those in truth, Cordy. Letme have you seen five minutes of either
one of them? No, Imean just you know the quick that's exactly

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that. That's where that's where I'velived. If I'm seeing it was like,
oh man, what a nice fifteenfooter. Now now that it took
to the rim one time, andthat I can't give you a scattering port
in either one of them. Now, what's interesting is of all years for
the uh for the you know,Rockets, to be picking third. The
two guys that are being most rumoredto them I have seen. I have
watched the majority of their games,and that is Reed Shepherd, the guard

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out of Kent, absolutely really goodplayer. And Donovan Klingon, the big
man out of Yukon. We've seenhim because well, shoot, he's a
two time national champion at Yukon andreally really good in the tournament run and
well code those sound those sound likelyshames too, But we have seen him
and knowing you know where he comesfrom and watching him play at Yukon,

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and in truth, even though hedidn't have a great final against Purdue,
his semi final in the final fourwas really Klingon was really really good.
And we don't say Klingon like it'sstar trek Okay for those that don't remember,
anybody's seen he started the Klingons right, But he's a very I don't
know. I don't think he's anNBA superstar, Gordy, I just don't.

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But I do think he's a solidplayer. And those two players I've
seen plenty of the first two Iknow nothing about, but I can tell
you this, the improvement kling Onand being coached by Danny Hurley, he'll
he'll be a solid NBA player.I don't think he's a super star.
And that sort of thing where therockets are now that these guys are going

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to start for you, right,they're both gonna be rotational peach pieces.
The interesting thing about Clinging is itgives you size, it gives you depth.
You brought in Steven Adams, He'sexpected to play, you know,
most of your center minutes. Shngoonwill see how they use him to.
They slide him a little bit moreat the four. Is that you're starting
five still, we'll see. Butthis guy just adds depth and size.
But the Rick Shepherd one is verysexy because this kid fifty from three last

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year was not knocked down. Imean he's his dad played. I mean
he's got the family pedigree and he'sa great shooter. And the Rockets last
year were ranked in the bottom tenand three point shooting. I mean it
got worse as the year when along, it felt like having a kid like
that coming off the bench and justgo just go shoot. I mean,
who's the last guy they asked theRockets had like that, Eric Gordon.

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I mean it's been a little while. Just fill it up. And so
either way you get, you getanother big that gives you depth. And
Klinton's athletic too. But he ranin and we saw him in the final.
I mean, you run into thatbig fella, it's it's a tough
to defend and it'll wear you out. You got to play forty minutes it
in college basketball and it beats youup. Fortunately, but on that team,
they really didn't have to have asuperstar when you're talking about Yukon,

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So you're exactly right, but qualityminutes. If you're not looking for sexy,
you're looking for productive, right.But if you can get a guy
who can knock down threes like thatand he can shoot the lights out,
either one of them are logical.And you know what, Gordia still comes
into play. Do you move thethird pick for a for a known veteran
that gives you more experience on ateam that's still got some youth and you

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know you added last year my guyfrom Toronto. Why am I losing my
mind guard yet? Yeah? VanVlee. And so maybe that's the case
in a draft that doesn't feel tobe a dominant, the superstar heavy draft,
and maybe it turns out to bea good one. Maybe you use
the third and you're moving it togo and try and get a veteran piece.
And that was one of the thingsthat was rumored out there the last

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couple of days is that maybe MarcusSmart the Memphis Grizzlies great perimeter defender too.
You know, they get their superstarback in John Moran, so you
know they brought in Marcus smartest kindof collateral they could flip Marcus Smart.
And if you you know, obviouslysome familiar familiarity with e Ma is there,
you know, something there to say, Okay, this could be another
veteran you bring in and doesn't Udokawouldn't He wouldn't you think what's been a

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problem until he came in here?Consistent commitment to defense? Right yeah?
Now Smart can get you some points, but great minutes and there's no question
and the big reason why the BostonCeltics or the World champions, I mean,
they've got some stars, but theirperimeter defense that they played it out
of their mind. They are greatdefense. And when Udoka was there,
he knows all about Mark Smart.There's some attitude there and there's a guy

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who understands winning. I think thatput it this way, that's the safer
pick than anybody else. You're gonnaget it three. The question, I
mean, what are you going toget from him? But I can tell
you this familiarity matters, and itwould seem like he'd still be a new
dooka guy plus just the way youpractice and the way you commit the defense
is it may not take a lotof talent, but it takes a lot

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of effort, and Marcus Smart's beenthat way since he left Oklahoma State.
The other guy that was rumored outthere is the Rockets were kind of stuffing
around. Hey, would Paul Georgebe available now? He's thirty four years
old but can still full it up. He'll get you twenty two to twenty
three at night. And honestly,the Rockets the little start power. Now,

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it's been fun developing the young guysand all this. You like Van
Vliet and Dylan Brooks, but youdon't have a star. If you have
a star, the Rockets, saidPaul George last year. They're playing team
at least. I don't know howfar they get in the playoffs set,
but that's what Tilman is right now. Tillman is going, Look, we
might be done with the nineteen twentyyear olds. Let's get some dudes who
can ball, and let's get tothe tam playoffs. Let's bring playoff basketball

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back to Toyota Center. Paul Georgeis gonna add superstar respect. And while
he may not be a top tenplayer in the league anymore. Like you
said, he's he can get youtwenty three points a game, but he's
also capable of going hanging thirty fiveon him. So that's a good good
as well. What you get fromboth as you get great defense from Smart
and you get a guy who can, back to the cliche basketball, get

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his own shot and create a shotand shoot and still get to the rim.
You get and just Paul George,the name alone says you bringing credibility
to a team because the guy canplay and he's a great offensive player,
has been since he's been in theleague. Few other great players in the
NBA that the Rockets are apparently eyeing. We'll bring that up coming up next
to your latest NBA rumors ahead oftomorrow night's draft. We'll talk about that

(01:14:50):
next right here on Shelt Salisbury Show. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Salisbury. That's beautiful over at theConvention Center. You do have to get
tickets in advance. They're free,I believe, but you just have to
go to the Rockets website and claimyour ticket and that I'll get you and
you're gonna be tons of stuff forkids, the whole family Rockets legends in

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the house, so gonna be alot of excitement, just building you know
what they've been building the last coupleof years, this young core. Will
they add another piece to that youngcore with the third overall pick or will
they flip it for a proven starout there and Shawnson interesting NBA rumors.
Jonathan Gavoni of ESPN reporting yesterday theRockets are quote clearly in win now mode

(01:15:36):
and are hoping that an all starto their roster, either via trade or
free agency or whatever. And justsome of the names he floated out there
is potential targets Kevin Durant, JimmyButler, McHale Bridges, and Brandon Ingram
among the names, alongside role playerslike Brook Lopez and Marcus Smart. I

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like it, I mean as funas it's been to go on lots of
the young guys the last couple ofyears. Or Sean at Toyota Center call
me stance, sorry, the appealof having if this is a Durant play
Aatoya Center, I'm gonna be therealmost every night. Yeah, and he's
still going to give you twenty eightto night. You're still he's still going
to get you now he maybe havesome rabbit ears. First time you say

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something about him, he's gonna he'sgonna get back at you. But the
one thing about like you said,he's star power and if you're looking for
that one extra go to guy toknock down shots. And in truth,
even though I don't look at KevinDurant as your perfect the leader, does
that make sense? I do lookat him as a guy who his resume

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is pretty good. He's one ofthe best players we've had in the league
in a long time. And he'sstill for a guy whose game's probably fallen
off a little, not bad fora guy who can still score twenty seven
to twenty eight thirty and he's capableof knocking forty down any night, right,
So I'm all for it, especiallyand if he's on this roster last
year and mentioned Paul George, theyare in the playoffs, so you'll get

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a swing. And you got allthese young players, they need a Marque
player, don't you agree? Imean Mark and listen, Jalen Green's got
superstar talent, but Kevin Grant comesyou get a guy like Durant. You're
looking at Mark. He named markytalent and a marquee score that gives you
a chance in the arena, there'llbe more people than when Kevin Durant comes
to town. You want to gosee him. If Kevin Durant's here,

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you're spending more time at the arenawatching in person. Now Durant is in
He's in a year three of afour year deal with the Phoenix Suns.
He's making fifty one million this year, fifty four million next year. And
they were in disappointment at the endthis year as well. I mean,
well they were disappointment all season longfor the most part. So if Phoenix
were to move on from him,you know it would be you'd have to
package a good bit of your youngplayers. You know, maybe there's a

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world where third pick you take ClingingClinging, and then you feel like you
could trade Shng Goon, package maybeJalen Green or some kind of Let me
ask you this, it's Kevin Green. Kevin Green, God rest his whole
I played against him. Is KevinDurant at thirty five years old give you

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a better chance to move forward andwin a championship if you had to give
up Shan Goon and Jayalen Green.I mean Is it worth it at that
price at this age? Is hebringing you a championship if you have to
give up two or three of yourstarters and bring him in. Is is
he going to make you ten gamesbetter than those guys would at this stage

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of his career. Now, inthis theoretical situation, you'd have a back
quarter Fred van Vliet and Aman Thompson, who is a top ten pick who
they're very high on. Is thehell of a player? You know,
I underrated at this stage. Yousee what you do with Dylan Brooks along,
you know with Durant, but youwould he's a he's a guy.
You'd probably a Jabari Smith at thefour, and you probably start Steven Adams
at the five with Klingon coming inbehind him. Still a pretty damn good

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team. Oh, there's no doubt. It's a playoffs and it's a Marquis
star name as well. My questionis are you better in in in every
way? With Kevin Durant getting ridof and it's probably going to take not
just Shane Good and Jalen Green,you may have to throw another body in
there. Right, Yeah, Okay, is it worth it? Are you

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winning an NBA? I'm not eventalking about play are you are you winning?
Put it this way, if youkeep the guys and go get Marcus
Smart, are they a playoff team? I don't know. Okay, even
as close they got. If youkeep what you got in Mark and you
trade the third pick to go getMarcus Smart or Paul George, are they
a playoff team with Paul George?I think they are. Okay, So
if you do that same thing butgive up two or three of your current

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players for Kevin Durant, are youa playoff team? You're definitely a playoff
team this year. It's just aquestion is how far can you get?
And maybe Tillman doesn't care about it. Tell me just like I just need
playoffs back at total right, doesn'tmatter makes sense. If that's what you're
looking for, then Durant that thengo get him. But if you're looking
for NBA time win, is KevinDurant prove to you that w out mega

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help, He's going to go wina title as Demark now Steph Curry.
He's had Russ Westbrook and James Harden, He's had a booker. I mean
my play and I love Durant.My My point is, does he really
get you closer to an NBA title. He gets you closer to the playoffs.
But is it worth it taken awayfrom to add two at thirty five

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years old and fifty million dollars ayear, it's a lot yep, But
hey, I'm just sorry. I'dbe a tis every night if you're talking
about just for the optics individual.Yes, what other report of the rockets
is? They came out yesterday.They are planning on keeping that some of
their pieces like Jeff Green, JockLandelle, and Jayshawn Tates. So man,
Jayshawn Tate. They just will notgive that guy up. They've had

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so many, uh so many callson that guy, trade for him,
and they just never moved him.All Right, when we come back,
we'll get into a little bit moreconversation on this. I'll see you guys.
Hold it to Robert Ronnie. We'lltalk to you guys. Seven one
three, seven ninety is the phonenumber more Shawn Salisbury Hour number three coming
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in action tonight that will host theColor Rockies. Now just five and a
half back in Seattle. Mariner Seattlefalls to Tampa last night, Rangers fall
to Milwaukee. So Astros five anda half back in Seattle. One game
up, full game up on theTexas Rangers now. And we've been talking
about the Houston Rockets gonna have theirdraft tomorrow nights, picking third overall.

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Reed Shepherd from Kentucky and Donovan Klingingfrom Yukon are the two players most rumored
to go to the Houston Rockets.And like we've been talking about, there's
some rumors out there that the Rocketsare also looking for a star. And
you know, would they make atrade on draft night? Would they you
know, make a trade when weget into free agency? We will see,

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but no doubt Tillman Fertida has gothis eyes set on. Look,
we've had a good go with thesetwenty year olds and nineteen year olds.
Let's get a star in the roomwith these guys. Which you also mentioned
a possible trade back that would intrigueyou because what's the difference between the third
guy and the twelfth guy? Youknow what I'm saying. Is there much
different as far as what you're goingto get as a player. Yeah,
and then there's some interesting names ina draft filled with guys we aren't really

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familiar with. There is there's acouple names. Dalton connect who was the
SEC Player of the Year, playedat Tennessee this year, was really really
good, got them to sweet sixteen. They have him projected to go tenth
overall. That's a guy that wouldbe intriggering for me. But you know,
it's all about Emoa, Dokain rafelStone. What direction do they want
to go? Do they think they'reyou know, you added Aman Thompson as

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a top ten pick last year,but he's a bench guy right now,
you're going to take a third overallpick this year and have another bench guy.
It's just you know, you startto look around the room and go,
can we upgrade the starting five?Is there a guy out there we
can make a trade for us?So we will see. But the Rockets
will have a draft party tomorrow nightat the George R. Brown Hall a
again Rockets dot com if you wantto claim your ticket to come on out

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there and join us. One otherdraft note, I saw Sean the big
name that's you know, like asI was looking the mock drafts, the
one name that jumped out to mein the second round is Bronnie James.
And I saw some of the Vegasodds came out yesterday over under draft position
odds on Bronnie James forty one anda half. So they're projecting Bronnie James

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would get drafted somewhere around forty oneor forty two, and the Los Angeles
Lakers are the odds on favorite totake Bronnie. Well, there's a shock.
The Lakers are the odds on faceif he wasn't lebron James, Sony,
he's not getting drafted right. Istill don't understand why you wouldn't come

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back and try to play a fullseason, prove everybody you're fully I mean,
you're healthy. People always have thatconcern and that you're developed your basketball
skills. Even if you were goingto transfer, didn't want to play at
Southern cal, Go play somewhere andthen have a chance that if you're a
have a decent season, you area first round pick, right, even
if it's late. You'd mentioned,we'd mentioned that off the air. So

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I the DNA says, yeah,I want him, but the reduction and
really, to me, he's justa guy. I'm still taking the under
I am I'm taking. I'm takinghe dry he goes further down when one
are the Lakers picking a second round, So it's it's it's as I was
looking there, they don't even havea pick in that range. But as
we know, when you get thesecond round, you can trade, people

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can trade up, no question thiswhen they will do everything they can to
appease Lebron. Sure, so ifif they all of a sudden want to
go up to the thirty seventh pick, and Jeanie Buss and and you know,
Polenka say let's go do this.Lebron wants it, they'll go get
him. So if the truth issmart, money says higher than that,
because the Lakers will move to gethim for Lebron James. But if you

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just stand there's no trades below that, I don't I don't. I think
he's just I think he's gonna flounderaround as an everyday player, I mean,
as a player in the NBA.I don't think he's a great talent.
NBA draft dot Net has him projectedto go fifty six to the Lakers,
but like you said, Vegas oddshave him forty one and a half
over under. So again, thethought is somewhere about ten picks in the

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second round. Quick note on thedraft too, they're doing it this year.
First round will be on a Wednesday. It's normally always on a Thursday.
First round. First round will beon Wednesday at seven. Round two
will be on Thursday at three pmCentral. So it was already the second
round. We you know, alot of people kind of check out on
the don't really care about They're gonnado a three o'clock on Thursday, and

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the rumor is that they want toget out of the way of the presidential
debate and all that that night.But what a thrill for all of us.
Yeah, what as boring as thesecond round the NBA Draft could be.
That might be more exciting, butmore fireworks at that than there will
be the second round of this draft, as a matter of fact, probably
more than the first round actually thisyear. But yeah, to me,

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Lebron James, if the Lakers don'tmove up to get inside of forty one,
take him post forty one and ahalf whatever, they take him later.
And if the Lakers are sitting therethere, there's no way on God's
green Earth in that fifty plus pick. If Ronnie James is sitting there,
then the Lakers would pass on him. They're going to make sure Lebron gets

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to play kill get my kid,Yeah, that's exactly they might do it
the back end the first Yeah,just to just to to a piece and
on national audience, national stage.You know you get all that too,
no doubt. Seven seven ninety isa phone number. Let's get to some
of you guys on the fall lines. Talk to Ronnie and Houston. Ronnie,
what's going on? Man? Heyguys, you guys are the two
best people on this station. Iwish you guys were together all the time.

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Got nothing against anybody else, nothingagainst anybody because Gordy I used to
talk to you on the tenth inningquite a bit. But you know you
guys work well together. Thank you. As far as as far as the
graft and everything. I don't wanta superstar. I want a basketball team.

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And I don't know why you wantto give up on guys who are
only twenty one, twenty two,twenty three years old. They haven't really
learned how to play basketball yet becausethey didn't play but a year in college,
and in the case of Green,he didn't even go to college.
I mean, build a team,build your core. And I don't want
some guy like Kevin Durant or Georgewho's thirty three, thirty five, thirty

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seven years old. How many gamesdid they miss last year. I don't
want to get some guy who's goingto miss ten fifteen games due to load
management or some kind of nagging injury. And if you give me twelve thirteen
guys who are not superstars, butwho's a good coach like E may can
put together and make them work together, that's what a team is. And

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That's what I think the NBA ismissing. Everybody wants stars, everybody wants
this guy's a superstar. That guy'sthe old Boston Celtics and the old LA
Lakers. Yeah, they had theirstars, Bird, Johnson, Worthy,
Parish all the but they work togetheras a team, and I think the
NBA is definitely missing that. Theyalso had Dennis Johnson, Bob McAdoo,

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Michael Cooper's of the world that you'retalking about, Ronnie, Ronnie, what
you have to understand is Gordy Gordy'sselfish and greedy. Gordy wants Gordy wants.
Gordy wants to be able to gowatch the Rockets and have Kevin Durant
score thirty five and then bitch onsocial media. See right, but you'll
be at the You'll be at thegame though, right, Gordy. I'm
with you. I I want ChrisGordy to do the play by play instead

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of Matt Oh. No, Gordywants a Gordy wants a bear at a
jump shot. What are you talkingabout? There? You go, Gordy,
So you just you think it's moreright now about obviously a champion,
Ronnie. Thanks for the call brotheralways the nice compliment. But you you
think was the star power for Tillmen, for Tea plays right now is a
little bit of that. But butthink of this as well, and I

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get Ronnie thought about, let's allthe young guys, let's develop, let's
keep building. Miss Jalen Green isgoing in a year four. Jalen Green
is gonna want to be paid soon. Scotty Barnes just got two hundred and
twenty five million dollars guaranteed he did. This is where you need to start
to make the decision because you don'tget eight years to keep these young guys
together. And Jamie Maile a lotof progress last year. Yea, he's

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gonna get paid. Jalen Greens agent'scoming to Tillman and Rafell going I want
money, and Till's going, wait, we're still building this thing. We're
still trying to get this young coretogether. You got it, I want
it. Speaking of Scotty Barnes realquick and talking about this Jalen Green stuff.
If I said, name the toptwenty players in the NBA, Scotty
Barnes one of them. No,no, dude, dude, think about

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that, and that's when you say, well, how much is guaranteed?
Do you want? How much isguaranteed the NBA every penny? Yeah,
Now I want you to think aboutthat. And you mentioned Gordy Off there
he said frontline quarterbacks of the league, saying wait a second. Now,
I'm the best in the league atwhat I do and that guy's making more
money to mean he's not top twentyfive player in the league. Good player.
Scotty barn is a good player.Player you don't misunderstand me. Good

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player, and he will end upbeing I mean, this makes him the
highest paid player in Toronto Raptors itshistory. Yeah, and I'm like,
man, it's good. It's goodto be young in the NBA and have
good timing. The only thing I'llsay is shake Gildes. Alexander Baker was
great the first few years in theleague. He elevated his game. So
Scotty Barnes very We could look backtwo years around golf, say, Kashank

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Gildes, Alexander, you could havemade a case that he was the MVP
of the league this year. Yeah, he had a great season. He's
he's gotten better and better eat ofthe last few years. So that could
happen with Scotty Barnes. It's justlike I said, the tough conversation with
the Rockets are you're ready to giveJalen Green one of the highest paid country
you know, like make him oneof hight paid players. You want to
know who's about to get paid herein the next couple of years. You

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think Anthony Edwards is gonna get paid? Yeah, that's another kill. Didn't
look great right out of the gates, But look at what he's become.
He's like, he's the old DominicWilkins human highlight film now with a little
I mean, with some extra.That dude is a friggin freak show.
He's what Josh should have been.If John hadn't off court wise, John
Moran would be where Anthony Edms is. Well, we're talking about Anthony Edwards

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the way we talked about John Moranas being the next great NBA face of
the league. Now, if theguy will get his crap together, he
can still be a dominant player inthe league. There's no doubt he's so
gifted, but he's got to getthe off the court, get out of
his head and start making better decisions. This Anthony Edwards now the dudes of
freakish. He's from He's from Idon't know, Mars or Saturn or Uranus.

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He probably doesn't want to be fromUranus. Who does? But but
he is from Mars. Go aheadand say, yeah, well he's not
Miaus, he's not there Aus triplehe's your Anus. Yeah, you don't
want to be from there? Canyou imagine being from there? I'd rather
be from Mars or what so?Pluto? Yeah? Yeah, speaking of

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speaking of that, let's get somemasterous injury updates here Southburg. This is
the Sean Salisbury Show. Are younot at the time, Let's at the
beginning now, alcohol Yeah. Gaton Sports Talk seven ninety the rookie that

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got the call up last Friday fromdouble A skip triple A straight to the
pros and Jake Bloss left that gamein the fourth inning with a shoulder or
was the fifth inning or whatever itwas shoulder inflammation, and Dana Brown saying
on Sunday, basically this is whathe said. He said, the good

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news is there was no there wasno damage there. It was just shoulder
inflammation. And they call it likeslight shoulder inflammation, and basically said five
days of rest, he would getback into some light toss, and Daya
said, at the end of thefifteen days on the il, he's gonna
be ready to go again. SoJake bloss, this is like from what
they've said, what I expect serveon the fifteen day aisle. He'll come

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back and he'll make another big leaguestart a grade and to see what you
got on him, there's no questionabout it. And when the name the
word inflammation is always better to methan what's the word we hate in the
elbow, Not inflammation but discomfort.Discomfort. Yeah, if it would have
been discomfort, I'd have said,I'll see you in September. But it
is. That's good news because Imean, obviously they hold him in high

(01:34:25):
regard because to go from double Aand skip triple A and come right here
to get a start, and Ithink that, you know, getting the
proper rest and going out there,he may be able to prove something and
you quite frankly, Gordy, youmay need it right depending on what track.
Garcia seems like he's on a prettygood track. I know, we'll
get to him in a second.We don't know about you know, is
mccollor's a month behind Garcia is thethree weeks behind him. I know.

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Dana Brown said he's counting on both. I asked him for counting on now
I'm for me. It's a bonuscounting on him, which tells you that
those guys rehab. So the questionis where are they and how many games
are you gonna get out of bothand innings and what are you gonna expect
from them? But the future looksbright with some of these guys like Raghetty
and and the blosses of the world. But that's good news that inflammation isn't

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discomfort like that. It's funny though. I was in the clubhouse on Friday
when he walked in. It wasone of those weird things, like you
don't talk to a starting pitcher whenon a starting absolutely But he comes in.
He's a kid, he don't knowany better. He comes he's like
talking to some of the guys.That's up, guys, how you doing.
He's wearing a blue and white stripedcollared shirt. His hair's kind of
poofed up. He's got khaki shortson. He looks like he just came
from the Sigma five, you know, meeting. Yeah, he's the president

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of the Sigma the the uh whatdo they got Sigma New House? Right,
and we're at a Sperry Top siderswhile he's at it. He was
at Georgetown, like youarre ago,pitching for that right, and now here
he is in the big league.So but he looked good, man.
I mean, I thought, allthings considered, against one of the best
lineups in baseball, and against theOrioles, he pitched pretty damn no doubt.

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And you know what, what whatan introduction to baseball? Right?
You know, you don't get astop in sugar lane to coming. Hey,
guess who you're gonna face. We'regonna and a team that had been
i mean pouring on runs recently andbeen on a great run. You're gonna
face the Baltimore's. But if you'regonna learn, you might as well learn
on the fly. And sometimes youdon't know what you don't know. And
as a young pitcher you get alittle knives. I just gonna throw strikes
and have some fun. So goodfor him. It looks like you got

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a future with the guy who's gotsome game. And hopefully you'll get back
after that and make that start you'retalking about and The interesting thing is this
that would bring him back somewhere ifhe comes off after the fifteen days,
maybe somewhere in the middle of thatMinnesota series. I would maybe wait until
you get back to Houston Tuesday.In the ninth you get the Miami Marlins.

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That's why I throw him out therenext Yeah, I get him that
start before the All Star break.Yeah, and see what he does again
at home if he mows down Marlins. I go, hey, bro,
all right, come back after AllStar breaks. You're rotation? Yes,
exactly right, Kyle Tucker. Interestingright, this is the most baffling one
to me. Yeah, right,shin contusion, still not doing baseball activities
on the field. He did runon the t read mill the other day.

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But as Dana Brown said, paintolerance is the issue. The problem
is, Sean, they're playing theRocky Sitay in tomorrow day game tomorrow.
If he's not on the field doingsomething today or tomorrow, he ain't gonna
play against the mess this weekend.This is it's odd to me. Now,
I know, listen, pain talent. He's been a durable player since
he's been here. Has Kyle Tuckerplayed a lot of baseball? But you

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know, who's to judge my paintolerance versut years or Kyle Tucker's right,
and that there's always this tendency forme maybe, and it's it probably gets
that macho football hockey crap right thatwhere we all get caught up. It
is like, well, if hewas a rugby player a football player,
he'd be playing right, And youknow, you know what I'm saying,
but we don't know because Kyle Tuckerdoesn't seem when you're that durable, doesn't

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seem like he seems like he wantsto get there and play. Yet when
it's when it's this long of abone, you call it contusion. I'm
gonna call it a heem atoma.Just sounds more serious, you know,
even though it's a bruce U thecontusion and there's no bone damage, so
it literally is down to the simplepain threshold of And that's one hell of
a bruce. Because what Gordy,we're on like twenty days now, I

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think, aren't we June third?Yeah, or twenty two days? And
so normally think, well, thechipped bone of partial fracture, and I
can see how that happened. That'sa painful injury. It's just baffling to
me because still no baseball activity,like you said, and if you don't
see him doing baseball activity, you'reexactly right. You will not see him
in New York either. So it'sbaffling. But none of us can sit

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back here and say, well,come on, guy, it's a simple
bone contusion. It's obviously serious fora guy. Now, if this guy
missed every every three weeks, wasmissing two or three games, he's been
pretty damn durable since he's been inthe league. But that's one hell of
a bruce, I can tell you, that's one hell of a bruce without
any bone damage done. You needhim back in the lineup. It's amazing

(01:38:54):
what they're doing without him. Well, we used to joke, or we
were joking the other day that,you know, if this was Nolan Ryan,
he'd pop a couple of a leaveand go, let's get back out
there. Dog gone right. Adda little extra padding so when he hit
the ground that the bone bruise wouldn'thurt and the pain shooting through his you
know, his uh, his shin. But man, I hope it comes
back. And if it's nothing seriousand it is simple pain tolerance, that's

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about as bad as a bone bruiseis gonna be for a guy who we
still wonder when he's coming back.This is a baffling injury without it being
really serious. But let's hope andwhat you then when you come back.
He's in an area, Gordy,what are you gonna wear there to prevent
it happening again? You know whatI'm saying. That's a fragile area.
But you got to get Kyle Tuckerback in the lineup. Are you concerned?
Brian brought it up last week.Isn't there any chance we don't see

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him before the All Star Break?I think it's possible. It's possible,
and maybe fifteen to sixteen or somore games. Yeah, maybe they are
in the side of caution. Lookthe way they played the last five games.
You're doing okay without it. Yeah. I was gonna say, you
can air on that side of cautionwith the way you're producing on the offensive
side. Right now, let's getMike in Tom Bowling here real quick,
Mike, what's going on? Man? Hey? Guys, how you doing

(01:39:58):
this morning? Go back? Hey, just real quick. I just wanted
to kind of go over we youknow, the Astros are in obviously in
a great position right now. Theycome off a great series, But then
I got eighteen games left before theyAll Star break. They got six series,
only one of those series against teamsthat are above five hundred, finishing
out with the Rangers with three beforethe break. I mean, they have

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a good chance to go twelve andsix, thirteen and five or whatever,
and before five games above five hundredat the break, setting themselves up,
you know, nicely for the secondhalf. You just kind of wonder sometimes
if you hope there's no regression,you know, it's it was a great
weekend. I just hope against theRockies tonight and tomorrow they set the tone

(01:40:42):
for the rest of the way forthose eighteen games, and I was just
gonna see what y'all guys take wason that, and that's all I got.
Yeah, it's it's important to winthese next two. I mean,
it's the Colorado Rockies. You gottaput your foot on their throat. They
have no business coming in here andbeating you. Split would be very disappointing
to me. Is to me,split feels like, you you know,
like a golfer. I always referto golf when it comes to it feels

(01:41:04):
like you bogee to par five tryingto win a tournament. You gave two
shots back to the field. Youcannot and splitting a series would feel like
a series lost to me. Yeah, second shot, you hit it right
up on the green and you're goingoff fur putt birdie at minimum and then
you're like, wait, okay,parr no, you bogey yeah right,
and everybody else is making birdie youreagle on the whole, So they've lapped

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you and gained two or three strokeson You can't. You just can't get
Baltimore. Hell, they went andswept him. You cannot let your guard
and you actually have to treat theColorado Rockies like it to Baltimore Oils and
go bury them because a split tome getting on the road to New York,
because who knows what happens with well, you never know what's going to
happen. You cannot leave this buildingwithout sweeping these two games in a short
series and taking care of your business, because it will feel like a lost

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series if you only win one.All right, Coming up next to Sarah
the Shot Salisbury Show, we'll getinto a few more of the injury updates
on some of the other guys.Dana Brown updating us on Sunday with some
of these guys on where there's beenand some other guys coming soon will update
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factor for the shune. This GrayShow continued. This one's kind of interesting.

(01:44:03):
Still dealing with that neck discomfort.Had somebody else describe it as neck
stiffness, but he's still on theil no timetable for his return. When
I was in the clubhouse on UHon Sunday, I heard Channel Roam talking
with him and I heard JV sayno update. And that's that's a little
bit alarming. It's just like,no update. Yeah, it can't just

(01:44:26):
tell me like, you know,stretching today and that guy knows his body
about as well as anybody does.We've seen that. Yeah, you know
what, And I know this hasnothing to do with it, at least
I prayed this last time I heardabout neck discomfort. The guy's not pitching
again until sometime in twenty twenty five. Well, I remember, I know
it has nothing. But my pointis, you know how it just makes
me. It makes me cringe alittle bit, like, oh gosh.

(01:44:48):
And you know JV at forty oneand when there's no update, it may
think is that just a kink inthe neck or is it something more severe?
I hope not. And you know, and I know the two are
I don't think that Hobber's neck isrelated to why, you know, going
down where he has to get TommyJohn surgery. I get it, but
it's still I just don't like hearingit. It's very It seems to me

(01:45:10):
odd that two neck injuries in thesame year, right, And I don't
like no update from a guy whoknows his body. But again, you're
gonna err on the side of cautionfor a forty one year old who you're
gonna need. And a few billI have talked you have said the expectation
is kind of finding the scenes earlyJuly. So the thought would mean probably
get him one one, maybe morestarts before the All Star break, but

(01:45:30):
probably more realistic one more start.But if you don't have an update and
you're not doing anything, Gordy,it's the twenty fifth of June now,
right, And does that mean doeshe go get a rehab start before or
you just say that he's been inbig leagues long enough his first start of
the here. Yeah, I thinkhe's pitched long enough. I feel like
he would be he's one of thoseguys that could just gypass it. Agreed,
agreed, But he does have thatI mean elephant in the room.

(01:45:53):
He's got that one or forty gettingthreshold for the big bonet for the vesting
options for next year, so Iknow he'd like to hit that. So
I know he's not gonna miss.It's not gonna slow play that. He's
gonna go. You know, I'mcoming back, So we'll see it's it's
December or it's June twenty fifth wegot next week is early July, and

(01:46:13):
that's where they said, so possiblysometime next week we'll see JV back out
there and he if there's anybody youtrust and know is like I said,
know his body and know when histimetable is, it's been him. So
I'm gonna trust that he'll know.It just gets me. I get a
little bit nervous, nervous in theright. We're a little bit uptight when

(01:46:34):
it's been one of those years wherethere's just too many of them. And
let's hope that this doesn't extend pastearly July. A couple other updates.
Victor Krattini that left hip flexer strain. Dana Brown telling us on Sunday,
said what he has been told bythe training staff is about four weeks,
but he said could be three ifall goes well and that sort of thing.

(01:46:57):
It was good to see, saySalas are in a couple of moments
here. I thought he caught wellthe other day. He had a couple
of hits in that Chicago series.He's gonna have to be big and a
few more too. Yeah, hereally is. And a plate in behind
the plate and the Ardeas has beenplaying well as well. So you feel
like you kind of dodged disaster there. You're you're you're sitting pretty good there,
but you do need Caroteena back,absolutely, because he's been one of

(01:47:19):
your better as far as backup catchersgo. I would say he's probably one
of the best in the big leaguesof years. I don't think there's a
and he's been clutched with the batand you get you get some good veteran
understanding behind the plate. He's beena great addition and a couple of late
late inning uh pinch hit opportunities thathe's delivered in. So uh but yeah,

(01:47:39):
you're looking at probably about, likewe said, three to four weeks
on him, and then the lastone you're concerned about. I didn't mean
to interrupt you. Are you concernedabout depth there? For the next month
because you played both the rule youknow, and I think Ronnie brought it
up yesterday. We were focusing ondepth date game to game, right,
you know, the game to gamedepth you need to just to cover yourself
and you can't afford another injury obviously. And if you know, if jiners

(01:48:02):
DH and and and Salazar is catchingand somewhere to happen Salazar, you you
lose the DH and you go fromDH to catcher. And Joe Parsons's on
Twitter was pointing that out and said, yes, and that that is the
rule. We were talking about.The depth Ronnie was talking about the devon.
Ronnie may have even been talking aboutend game. Ronnie was concerned about
the depth one of our callers,and you heard from him today the depth

(01:48:25):
of the catching position. If infact you had you played them both,
what if one gets hurt. Butalso over the course of you've missed one
for too long, do you needto go to the trade deadline and get
somebody. I think we're probably notgonna see many yan Ordz DH spots during
the stretch because you got low Perfidoand he's playing so well from low Braffito,
Jake Chaz and the outfield, right, I think you're gonna have a

(01:48:47):
lot more you're on dhing in thisstretch, and you don't want to take
the risk of having both in thelineup at the same time. I just
think that's the way they're going togo now, if if if it got
really extreme, Cooper humble as akid who can catch, so if it
got dire, he could go outthere and catch a couple innings for you.
But I think that's how they're goingto kind of manage this thing.
Is uron's going to DH a littlebit more, or you know, maybe

(01:49:08):
they'll do that thing where you know, pregnant gets a day off from the
field, but he DHS and dobomb. Yeah, they'll kind of do
that. I think they'll kind ofstay away from Yadas. He'll catch the
majority of the games he'll be inthere, but the days he's not catching,
I think will just be a dayoff, right to keep him fresh.
Wise, and and the truth ofthe matter is is that you and
maybe but that's not a trade deadlinethat doesn't fall under a priority to go

(01:49:30):
get a body as a catcher.Do you think you'd promote within, wouldn't
you? Yeah? Oh yeah,yeah, and one other note here.
JP Frantz did suffer a minor setbackin his long toss, Dana said,
but he called it minor. Itwas just kind of he skipped the day
that he was skeped led to longtoss, So you know, call it
a minor set back whatever. Butthe hope is you get him back at

(01:49:51):
some points right at the end ofthe year. Now, the other guys
that that they threw in here,we know Lauis Garcia is doing very well.
Joe spottatol Sunday, he's gonna throwone more of these little scheduled bullpen
things, and if all goes well, they're expecting to throw him into that
floor complex leg to start throwing againstsome live hitters. And you know that's

(01:50:12):
where jose Brewy was a couple ofweeks. This is this and you'd have
to work him to what your springtraining to you, you're looking at late
July. Yeah, that's that's thedeath time, right, they said posts
all star breaks, so somewhere inthat vicinity. But the good news is
he's on track exactly. And SteveSparks had said when he saw him,
he said there was some letting themlife to his fastball. He said,
he looked really, really good.So many guys come back better now from

(01:50:34):
Tommy John so that'll be interesting.And then last with Colors, the timetable
is still August, so he's he'sbeen throwing some bullpens and had a simulated
inning, uh, basically where hedid a thing. He threw an inning
and then went and sat and thenthrew again to kind of simulate, kind
of like you're in a real game. Yeah, and if the Astros are

(01:50:55):
hitting, well, maybe it'll bea long inning in between. So you
get to simulate a game, takeyou know, seven, eight, ten
minutes off and then go back andpitch again to make sure you're staying loose
and doing everything you need. Becausethe truth is, with this hell and
with with the way it's gone,those two guys could be if like I
said, if I get if youget my Colors back for the run,
that would be such a bonus.Yeah, it's been it feels like it's

(01:51:15):
been so long. And what's hisrole. I mean, I know he
wants to be a starter, buthonestly, you could use the starter.
Well, I think a lot ofit depends on the health of the rest
of the staff. Yeah, Ido Ednar Brown, who we thought bullpen.
You're not taking a hunter out ofthe Hunter Brown. You know,
at one point he was he's beena bullpen guy, and now he's logging
innings and you're saying, well,he's become a monster. He's really pitching

(01:51:39):
well, so he's not a bullpenoption right now. You got to have
him starting, and he continues toprove why everybody thought that this guy could
be a dominant starter in the league. When he's pumping it up ninety seven
to ninety eight, controlling it,pitching inside. What is Steve a two
steamer that's running in on people.Now there's a little bit more confidence to
him, So you're not gonna beYou're he one of your rotation guys.

(01:52:00):
I'm anxious to see where mccullor's.My gut tells me he's going to be
a bullpen guy and a spot starter, not the other way around. Well,
and one more guy to kind ofthrow out there. Kendall Graveman is
playing catch again after his shoulder surgeryand he's he's on a program to be
throwing throughout July. He was askedwe talked to him in person. Channel
Romass, and you know, youthink there's any chance you could be back

(01:52:23):
before the end of the year.He said, it's not out of the
question. Like he said it couldbe, I thought it was a foregone
conclusion we weren't going to see him. That's incredible progress. But here's the
thing. If he gets back andcan throw in September, he's not gonna
be able to be on the postseasonroster. So it just kind of becomes
he would be doing it just todo it, And even he said it's
it's that thing of like he's beingpaid to yourself well, and he's being

(01:52:45):
paid. He wants to contribute insome way if he can't, so it
be it would be really funny ifhe got back by September and he pitched,
you know, helped you as you'retrying to close this gap and win
the division. He could be acontributor for that if he's not gonna be
in the postseason ross, especially ifyou have a bullpen that gets taxed the
second half of the season. Yeah, but again, that's that's kind of
like I put it. But itstill is on the table as a possibility.

(01:53:11):
So when we're return here on theshowan Salisbury Show. We'll update you
a little bit more on what happenedlast night in the major leagues and the
Astros got some help around the division. We'll talk about that next year on
Sports Talks of a ninety. ThisSean Salisbury Show continues to continue some familiarity
with Dana Brown was with the Bravesand the expectations he had right elbow surgery.

(01:53:36):
Expected return they have slated as possiblyAugust. He has progressed to throwing
in the bullpen, no sliders,but hopes to progress to facing hitters soon.
And that's that's an interesting name too. I mean, it's just all
these guys that we talk about andthe estwers just feels like they've been plagued
by injuries this year, but somehope on the horizon. Like we talked

(01:53:59):
about lays Scar, see you progressingwell. So we will see if the
majority of these guys, notwithstanding thegraveman talk, like you said, the
percentage of if it's this year,but if they do get healthy, they're
gonna have some decisions to make.Put it this way, it'll be a
great problem to have. If thehealth progresses and they get everybody back,
that'd be a good problem to haveto have to make those decisions because right
now you're scrambling around making sure yougot enough bodies. If they could have

(01:54:24):
an over abundance of bodies and hadto make some tough decisions, I think
we're all okay with that. Yeah, no, no doubt. And look,
the schedule still sets up pretty wellhere for the Astros as they kind
of weather the storm we talk aboutthis stretch before the All Star Break.
Two games against Colorado starting tonight andthen tomorrow afternoon. You feel good about
those, You go to the Metsthis weekend, which I would seen the

(01:54:46):
fallout on their closer ten games.Ten games, okay, so he'll be
out, yep, you don't havetheir their their best pitcher. That'll be
a Friday night game Apple TV plus, by the way, so make sure
your radios are You got I HeartRady on your phone because yes, no
one wants to sign up for AppleTV for one game, right. So
that'll be Friday, Saturday afternoon andthen Sunday early afternoon day game. How

(01:55:11):
about Monday? They play a twooh seven game in Toronto on Monday.
You know why I like it becausewhen I go home, I get to
watch a day baseball. I loveday baseball, And on a Monday,
it's usual. First of all,it's usually an abbreviated schedule, and secondly,
they're mostly night games. So toget a nice midday game on a
Monday coming out of the weekend,hopefully after a dominant performance in New York,

(01:55:34):
that would be great to go intoToronto. They got four in Toronto,
you say, Gorny, Yes,So it's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday, right, and they'll endwith a day game on Thursday,
would imagine on the getaway part ofit. Yeah, so here's the two
day games. Yeah, day gameMonday, in the day game Thursday.
Here's the interesting part. It's it'sa holiday for Canada. On Monday,
it's Canada Day. Know all aboutit, so they're playing that. And

(01:55:55):
then on Thursday is our Independence Day. Will play a day game in Toronto
and they know all about it.Playing up there in the CFL. Big
day for them. So and thatleagu's underway rolling. So yeah, it's
a good and listen, Toronto thebaseball wise can be a little I mean,
you don't know what you're gonna getthe times, because they every time

(01:56:16):
we talk about on paper. Everyyear you line up say, man,
this team's loaded. Yeah, theyloaded, And then you go in there
and you say, well, whydo they come up short? They've been
a postseason disappointment when it comes toand the way and even if they don't
get into the postseason. So andthen the Vlad Guerrero talk about the possible
trading him and moving him. I'manxious to see when they get there.
But first and foremost, you gotto take four of the next five.

(01:56:39):
For sure. Toronto's lost seven ina row, That's what I'm saying.
And the Red Sox have won gamesbelow five hunder yeah, which is well.
And you look at the roster andyou say, that's not an eight
games below five hundred roster. Thisthis city's seen a little bit of that
this year. But now you seehow the Astros are playing, I'll tell
you what they continue the tailspin Guerreroain't the only one. It's gonna get

(01:57:00):
moved. Yeah, it's it's ina line up with Vladgurero, George Springer,
Bob Baschett, Dalton var Show.I mean it, it's loaded with
talent, no question. Jose Barrios, Chris Brett, Bassett, Kakuchi all
at the front of that rotation.Kevin Gosbels and that's that's insane that they've
struggled like that. But yeah,they'll ask those will be in Toronto,
then they will play three games inMinnesota, come home for six before the

(01:57:26):
All Star break, three against theMarlins, three against the Rangers. That's
a ten game road trip, right, ten games, yeah, three in
New York, four in Toronto,and three in Minnesota. Yeah. So
let's say arguments. Say you gofive and five in that stretch. You
win these two against Colorado, getyour forty and forty, you got five
hundred. You go five and fiveon the ten game road trip, you're
forty five and forty five at fivehundred, and then you take two out

(01:57:48):
of three against Miami, two outof three against the Rangers. Boom.
You go into the All Star Breakabout above five hundred, and you've probably
come close to catching the America.That's exactly right. It's what you want
to do, no doubt. Seven. Seven. Let's get Charlie in here
real quick before we start a hour. Number four. Charlie, what's up?
Hey, guys, I just wantto say I think we need to

(01:58:09):
be a little bit realistic. We'rebasically down five starters with Lance Garcia,
two guys at surgery. We don'thave JP, so I feel positive about
that. They're doing a pretty goodjob juggling the pitchers. I think it's
nice to see to me, atthe same time you're dying ab painon al

(01:58:29):
two ve are all coming back andhitting the baseball. I'd be happy if
we can get to eighty five oreighty eight wins this year, just being
realistic. Does eight eighty six winsget you in the playoffs? Well?
I don't think, Sean, ButI think overall what we've had to overcome

(01:58:51):
with the pitching, UH, ifwe don't make it this year, and
if we want to go out uhand not give up the house to get
another starter, I'm comfortable with that. But I think we've had so much
to overcome it we may not makeit this year. Eighty eight wins for
you, I did Meani interrupt child. Eighty eight wins for you this year,

(01:59:11):
with what they've had to overcome,feels like a win to you?
Is that what you're saying? Andyou could deal with that? Yeah,
yes, sir. And just toshow you last night. I bought my
tickets for Friday and Saturday and Sundayof the Hall of Fame weekend. So
that's my team and I'm still goingto support them. We're having some bumps
in the road, but you know, that's the way it is. So
everybody just buckle up and support theteam. Gonna be a fun run.

(01:59:34):
Charlie, thanks, man, enjoythat too. That'll be a blast.
We appreciate you. Yeah, it'sgonna be addressing to see. I mean,
look, this division is still upfor grabs. I mean, Toronto
has not been a good team onthe road this year, and they took
another loss last night, and theAstros are within five and a half.
Nobody's going to run away and hidefrom the division. And Texas will not
go away because they swing the battoo well and if they get healthy pitching,

(01:59:57):
look out there. Yeah, that'sthe thing. They're one game behind
you, so that that scares youa little bit. They will be breathing
down your neck. You need tojust keep winning, keep taking advantage.
Our number four coming your way.Next to here on the Shawn Salisbury Show,
we got plenty more to discuss.Got a little Texans Actions of college
football topics as well. We'll getinto it all stick around. I want
them before coming your winning right afterthis. Kd E Houston, k t

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This is the Sean Seals Very Show. Dominant men's college championship in a

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major men's sport. It's been sincenineteen thirty nine, and hard to believe,
looking hard to believe, Hard tobelieve, Big One. Will David
Pierce out as Texas head coach?Will Jim Schlosnagel consider making the jump from
Aggie Land to Austin. Keep aneye on that storyline. The Florida Panthers
beat the Edmonton Oilers two to oneGame seven of the Stanley Cup Final last

(02:01:34):
night, and Astros had the nightoff, but they closed the gap.
The Astros now just five and ahalf back of the Mariners after they fell.
The Tampa Rangers also fall to Milwaukee, so Astors go from half a
game up on them to a fullgame up. Astra's back in action tonight.
I've been to may Park, ColoradoRockies in town for a night game
tonight and a day game tomorrow,so we will see if the Astros could

(02:01:57):
take too straight there sewn. You'rewe are three weeks from tomorrow is the
start of as Texans training camp.I do, but I can't believe it.
I do realize that. I'll tellyou another thing, training camp.
Would they come in in July seventeenwhen they've done like the twenty second nowadays
five days of trading camp and youbreak camp? I'm kidding, Yeah,

(02:02:19):
No, I mean it's it's it'sall the way through, right, I
mean, they're often running. Sothey report back seventeenth, and then Thursday,
July eighteenth is when they first hitthe practice field, right. Nick
Cassario will talk first things that firstthing that morning. They'll be on the
field Thursday, Friday, Saturday,they'll be off Sunday, and then they're
back at it Monday, Tuesday,Wednesdays, and they're all getting ready for

(02:02:42):
this. I mean, this Hallof Fame game is August first, right,
I mean it's it's gonna be yourquarterly report. Yeah, it's amazing
how fast camp goes. Before youknow it, we'll be lining up and
it'll be mid August, getting readyfor the September start. But I it's
hard to fathom that we've blinked andnow it's time and the expectations for this
team are through the roof and doingit once is one thing. Now come
back, repeat it and even getbetter with a better roster and a better

(02:03:05):
feel head. Things arehead in theright direction, But it gets tougher,
it doesn't get easier. Yeah.I just like that they at least they're
staying here and you know they're rightdown the road and we can go watch
and practice. No because and Igot friends who cover the Saints and they
were saying, how they got togo out to California here and we're the
Saints practicing this year. They're somewhereout in California there is taking a training

(02:03:26):
camp and in the caravine. They'renot Irvine, where the where the Chargers.
I don't know if the Chargers stilltrain there. When Philip Rivers was
there, they had there as aIrvine I know at SC when we went
away, we'd go to Irvine.It'll be University of Calorvine. There you
go, there, you go.So that they're they're it's so weird.
The reason they're doing this is becausethey're doing a construction project at the Saints

(02:03:47):
facility building a brand new team cafeteria. So because we don't have a cafeteria,
we can't practice there. Look,des Allen, just say you wanted
to go to California. It's okay. You don't have to use the calf
cafeteria as an excuse. Go gograb about eight of those container that you
know they're building those container the yeah, one of the cargo shipping homes,

(02:04:11):
right and just you know, putput some food trucks outside the little cafe
line inside. Let's go eat andhave good. I mean you can get
a line of about ten food trucksfrom Houston and just exactly the boys.
And the truth is the fellos willprobably like it. Grab it and they
want to go to the sheets asfast as they can. Anyway, Grab
grab yourself a nice lunchtime burrito andget your butt or burger and head your
butt to the to the sheets foryour nap before the afternoon practice. But

(02:04:33):
it's like, I mean, theCowboys a good excuse to get away,
that's what it is. The Cowboysgo to Oxnard every year, right,
Yes, so yeah, it's it'sjust some some teams just like to get
away. Now in New Orleans,it's they could just use the excuse excuse
if we want to get out ofthe heat. I mean, there's that
part. But you know, theTexans did it once, so Bill O'Brien,
they went up to the Greenbrier rightand did their thing up there.

(02:04:54):
But it just gotta suck because somemedia members couldn't make the trip. And
see, you gotta watch them lesscover, there's less access and all that.
I know, Bill O'Brien love thatpart. Oh of course. Then
you just get to focus on footballand I have to deal with us.
But people hear that good, Nodoubt that Irvine camp for those Saints you're
talking about, And I do likethe detections are here. You got facility.
We got to the point now youknow, it was six weeks than

(02:05:15):
four weeks when I was playing,you were there a long time, stayed
in dorms. Now, guys,we're at the point now they're just letting
certain. I don't know about here. You're not staying at the hotel.
You're sleeping in your own home.Yeah, and stay at home where no
training camp was you get away.You're not with family, they come watch
practice times or it's it's family,you know, family weekend where they're going
to practice once and give you theafternoon off and then a Sunday off and

(02:05:38):
then you're back at it Monday.If you didn't you know, if you
had a game on a Friday nightor Saturday night. But it's crazy.
And I can tell you one thingabout Irvine. If you're the Saints players,
you're like, this is cool becausebetween Irvine is stuck between Laguna Beach
and Newport Beach. So when youdo get the day off, head west,

(02:05:58):
my friend and to Coast Highway andfind yourself some really good food and
walk along the beach. And yougot the Huntington Beach Pier and Newport Beach
and Balbo Island and Laguna Beach andthere's a Mastros and a Javier's Mexican restaurant
and the steakhouse right next to eachother, overlooking the ocean on the other
side of Coast Highway at Laguna.I'm giving your Saints people all that they

(02:06:20):
can do and have a blast there. Irvine is a really good place to
go if you want to go toa training camp. Do you have to
tell people don't surf? Want toprotect your body? No, you tell
them to surf because it's great.Listen if you do, you know,
you fall off your surfboard. Allsyou're doing is falling into nice salt water
and nice cold because the Pacific oceansthat tadbit chili even in the summer.

(02:06:43):
It's good for the body. Soyeah, rest and recovery. Brother that
it's your plunge pool times eight billiongallons of water times eight billion more.
Unfortunately for the Texans, they willjust have to stick it out in the
one hundred and seven degree of Houstonthrough the next Greeks. But pop on
fish pop on six ten to getto the house. I tell you what,
though, they put those little coolingrooms down there. That's kind of

(02:07:05):
cool to go go in there,and it's like forty degrees in there.
Free butt off, So it's niceto cool down in that. But it's
interesting, Sean, for our fantasyfootball people out there. I saw ESPN
yesterday they already have their fantasy footballcheat sheets up. Those are the things
everybody knows. If you ever playedfantasy football and you don't get into the
hours and hours of research, yougo, oh crap, I got a

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draft tonight. You run a ESPNdot comedy hit print on the top three
hundred rankings. Player go, that'smy draft research, right. It was
interesting because I was like, letme just see where the Texans players are
ranked. We got this stut offense. Bobby Slowick did an incredible job last
year. CJ. Stroud rookie,the offensive Rookie of the year, Tank
Dell an amazing rookie draft pick.You add Stefan Diggs, Dalton Schultz's back,

(02:07:48):
Nico Collins got the big fat deal. So you feel pretty good about
all this offense in these weapons laceare on paper head in the right direction
for damn sure, and their performancelast year says so. And they are
a better roster now than they wereat this time last year. So check
out some of these rankings. Interestingrankings for some Texans players. And this
is top three hundred, and thisis non PPR. So I know who
i'd rank as their first weapon.I know who i'd put is the first

(02:08:09):
fantasy weapon that I rapped. Let'ssee if you can get it. I
would say, Joe Mixon. You'reabsolutely right. Joe Mixon Wow. Rated
twenty third on the Fantasy Football Chiachiettop three hundred. So they think Joe
Mixon is going to be the bestfantasy player for the Texans this year.
You're going to get one thousand totwelve hundred yards rushing, and he's a

(02:08:31):
durable back. He does not missmuch. He's a beast. You're going
to get an offensive, an offensethat wants to mix in and run and
use play action, but where he'sgoing to get those extra points. That
I why he's ranked this side.I know he's going to score touchdowns and
I know and he's a three downback. He can play three downs and
he's a big body so he canhandle punishment. Is in the passing game,

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Gordy, I've been begging for thisfor years here, to get the
running back involved. When you geta guy like Ladanian, Thomason Marshall,
Falk, Marcus Allen, when youget a back who can just the thread
of a back out of the backfield, even if he doesn't touch. It
creates a lot of holes in thedefense, which applies to fantasy too.
I know we're talking fantasy, butthe team and why he's this high as

(02:09:15):
I'm thinking the same way, ishe's going to catch sixty balls or more
this year? Yeah? Fifty twocatches last year he should the prior and
a lot of that was without JoeBurrow in the lineup. Yeah, because
Burrow was hurt. So you're goingto mix in him out of the backfield.
You can run options with him andcheck down and he's a guy who
can catch and turn and gets yard, so he should catch touchdowns in the
option game, and you know youget him down in the red zone.

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But also running the football. He'sa physical back, can run between the
tackles and has wiggles. So forme, he would be my number one
choice off the Texans roster offensively too. I expect a sixty catch plus twelve
hundred yard or more rushing season andtwenty five touches a game because he's a
big body back who can do that. Thousand yard rusher last year nine rushing

(02:09:58):
touchdowns, three receiving touch downs aswell. So take the over on all
those categories. I'm being serious.I believe you will. And that's not
to say anything, but if Burrow'sin there, they would he would have
had the same numbers or better.I believe that this is at hand.
What do you think Bobby slokee wantsto do? You know what they'd like
to do A I don't want tosay poor man's but nobody's going to do
what McCaffrey does for the most part. But you want that same type of

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production for defenses to have to defend. Because I think mix is a monster,
and I think this is a greatand I think it's an underrated get
nationally across the league. Bobby Sloke'sgonna want to do what he didn't get
to do as much last year.Is utilized the back the way that the
forty nine ers use it, andthat means a ton of production which will
only make CJ. Stroud better andthe thread of a back in the backfield

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creates a lot of space. Ibelieve he'll be their number one fantasy producer.
I really do so. Again,this is the ESPN's cheat sheet on
ranking players. They got Joe Mixontwenty third the next best Texan. Care
to take a guess, I'll takea guess, and I'll say, just
because of where he plays, I'mgoing to say Tank Dell. No,
Nico Collins thirty six. Okay,so that's pretty high. Yeah, I

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mean, so I'll just give youall three. Nicole Collins is thirty six,
Stefan Diggs is forty six, andTank Dell is fiftieth. So you
kind of have all these guys inthe same kind of territory because the problem
is you don't know who's gonna betheir leading receiver. Did this year?
I could go ask twenty people onthe street, They're all gonna have a
different answer. I always like guyscloser to the football for more production I

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can the outside guys. This setsup for, if he's healthy, a
monster year for Tank Dell in theslot because you know what Diggs, you're
gonna get attention. Nico Collins hasgarnered more attention. So you're not sure
who the number one is there,and a lot of times when you're not
sure who the number one is,that guy sitting in the slot closer to
the quarterback and you get to usehis bandwidth. It's much there's more room

(02:11:48):
to work in there. If TankDell's healthy, don't be shocked if he
creeps up and is your number onefantasy producer in the passing game. I
think there's a chance. Yeah,it's it's gonna be interesting to see which
of those guys is the leading receivercons in the red zone. Is going
to be a monster because he's abig body. Yeah, maybe they're breaking
on the new contract and him havingthe breakout year last year that he can
give it. But Stefan Diggs atforty six, that's gonna be the lowest

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he's been ranked at fantasy projections foryears, which for a guy who wants
another big contract, Not that fantasydrives it, but numbers wise, would
make me think that he, uh, there won't be a whole lot of
complainting this year, that he's gonnatake it to another level, that the
town will be bigger than the headache. And just to finish this off,
C J. Stroud sixty two onthe fantasy rankings, you're more of a
fantasy. Give no more about thefantasy that's is that a normal thing for

(02:12:35):
quarterbacks? That lows so they theybasically project like typically they want. They
weren't all you running backs and widereceivers high. Josh Allen is the highest
ranked quarterback and he's somewhere like thefifties. But I'm curious, like c
J Stroud that low. I'll justsay this, if you're in a fantasy
football league with friends in Houston,CJ, you ain't waiting that long for
Stroud to go. That's exactly howit's going to the first round and a
lot of fantasy no doubt about it. With Texans fans. And just to

(02:12:56):
finish off, Dalton Schultz won thirtytwo. They have him as like the
twelfth, thirteenth best tight end.I'd take the over in that. I'm
taking the over. And the Texansdefense they wreck two eighty five. They
got them behind a top like halfthe league in defense. I just found
that with the addition of Daniel Hunterand Will Anderson, a team of sacks,
a lot of guys. Yeah,they should be pissed and go out

(02:13:18):
and hopefully they'll play that way.So sometimes it can feel like like on
the video games, you feel disrespected, Yeah, go ahead and feel disrespected
and go do your thing on defense. Interesting quote from case Keenum on CJ.
Strot. I want to bring thatup when we return here on the
Sean Salisbury Show shotgun with someone who'sthrown from the shotgun. Football is hammet

(02:13:41):
to hammett. Sean Salisbury, Brianalima. You want to see what real football
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balls hitting the backstop, I mean, balking people that you don't even know
these at second base and you thoughthe was at first smiling and then throwing

(02:14:03):
that hard, high fastball up,get a few players and swing and miss,
and then that nasty hard slider forthe win. But it got it
got a little. When it wassix to one, I think, okay,
but it is the College World Seriesand strange things happen. And even
though they didn't hit the long ball, they they plugged away at it.
And uh, you know the homerun by in the previous inning. Why

(02:14:24):
am I losing my mind? Tennesseehit the two run home kid? The
kid who hit those Yeah, what'shis last name? We talked? I
mentioned his name driver? Uh no, uh, well more hit the lead
off yeah right, that was toopen the game. It was a driveling,
driving, hit the home run toget it to six to one,
which ended up being the difference inthe game. Yeah and uh, but

(02:14:45):
again Maggies didn't go away. Youhave my credit. They fought and now
you know, still nineteen thirty nine, s it's a and m has won
a major men's college championship in uh, in the major sports. But it
started to set up for craziness likewe always see, didn't it. I
mean, I know you were likeme a round the seven when it was
six one. I'm like, okay, because I was watching the Stanley Cup
finals, which ended up being aphenomenal seven game series. But I mean

(02:15:07):
the relentless attack by by Edmonton downthe stretch there on Bebroski was impressive,
but they staved them off. Man, and you give up one goal,
stand on your head. You winthe Stanley Cup. But yeah, it
was I thought that that thing.Okay, it's now six to three and
it's six to five before you know, and there's a runner in scoring position.
But he got the key swing andmiss and strike out in it,

(02:15:28):
and a couple of swing and missusin that final final at bat too s
up to win for Tennessee their firstever, which is still fascinating to me
as well. Well, and anduh, who's who's my guy for Tennessee
with the big mustache? Was thatConnell? Yeah, the lefty, he's
got the Raleigh fingers handlebar, Yeah, mustache, but the rhyane stank flow.

(02:15:50):
Oh yeah, he's kind of youknow, and the and then then
the full beard that goes with alot of times guys who do the the
the handlebar don't have a big beerto go with it. It sticks out
on its own, like old schoolgas house gang Saint Louis Cardinals. But
they had a little bit of everything, a little They're damn right, there

(02:16:11):
was so but they had a littlebit of everything. And in truth,
well they went through it. Itwasn't one of those where your starter and
it's all hands on deck. Whenyou get through, you know you're it's
it's one to one and this isit, and you know you're exhausted playing
a lot of baseball. It wasn'ta dominating pitching performance by either side,
but the long ball played a littlebit more favorable for Tennessee, and they

(02:16:31):
started the game that way, andfor the most part, you know,
late in the game with the withthe driving home run ended it that way,
and they kept Texas A and Min the ballpark, which is pretty
tough to do with their power andtoo well managed teams, you know,
coach teams, and Tennessee wins theirfirst A lot of first last night.
Florida Paul Maurice wins his first StanleyCup. Is that he's been a thirty
year hockey guy as their head coach. He wins his Florida Panthers win their

(02:16:54):
first. Tennessee wins their first.We haven't had A and M win a
major men's title since you said nineteenthirty nine. Yeah, I mean they
were a lot of first last night. And we're on Longhorn watch now too.
With David Pierce being let go byTexas, they are looking to make
a big splash and hiring their nextbaseball coach. Saw two managers last night
that I'm sure they'd like to gettheir paws into if they possibly could in

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that World Series, Tony v Telloand Jim Schlasnagel. Of course, schloss
after the game, saying it's veryhappy to and M. It's his dream
job. But what we got,Sean, would I like to call a
non denial denial. He you know, just did not say I'm not going
to Texas. You know, withNick Saban a couple of years ago,
we got I'm not gonna be Hesaid, I don't know how many times

(02:17:37):
like I say it, I'm notgoing to be the head coach at Alabama,
and became the head coach at Alabama. Yeah. So sometimes guys come
right out and deny it. Othertimes guys just don't, you know,
sidestep it. And if the dooris a little open without a dead bolt
on it, the hey, Icould always listen. Yeah, And if
you're Tony v. Tello and youwant to stay at Tennessee but you want
to be the highest paid coach incollege baseball, you leave the door open.

(02:18:01):
There you go. Look, I'vehad no discussions with Texas. Yes,
and leave it open. I gotnews for you either one of them.
They're getting a pay raise just bythe flirtation of the University of Texas,
and rightfully so both of them.Look what he's done with Tennessee's program,
and we we all obviously know Schlosshas crushed it. He's built,

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did a great job at TCU,and he you know, had his team.
You know a runaway and quite frankly, in Game two, a real
legitimate chance to put it away ifit's not for the long ball by Tennessee
in that game as well, uhto win a national championship, and unfortunately
they came up short. But ahell of a season and two really good
managers. And if you're A andM and Tennessee, you obviously want to

(02:18:45):
keep those guys. And this isnow we've gotten to the point where the
head coach in baseball is a twoand a half to three million dollar job.
If you're the top of the line, that'll be the top pay and
both of them are. It's goingto be tough, it's gonna be flirtatious.
But I understand why both would staytheir programs. The facilities are getting
better at Tennessee baseball wise, andthe facilities at A and M aren't as

(02:19:05):
good as anybody in the country.A quick shout out to Rice too.
I saw they put up a graphic. Since nineteen ninety nine, best winning
percentage by a college World Series champion. Number one was Vanderbilt in twenty nineteen,
they had an eight thirty one winpercentage, right behind them Rice in
two thousand and three and eight twentynine win percentage that season, just ahead
of this Tennessee champion. I hadeight twenty two. It's impressive. I

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don't think a lot of people knewthat. Yeah, so I saw Jose
Cruz tweeting that out last night,kind of shout out. He said,
this is correct second best winning percentagefor a team to ever win it all
the Rice Owls of two thousand andthree. Awesome. Cool to see that.
Seven three two two five seven ninety. Let's get miss Carrol in here.
We've been talking a lot of astrosthis morning. Was Carol, welcome

(02:19:48):
in Well, Hello, surprise,surprise, mister Chris Gordy, Uh jump
in the morning too. Your Hey, oh, miss Carol, I'm doing
great. It's great to hear yourvoice. And Astro seemed to be listening
to what you've got to say.They're they're taking on some they're they're they're
playing good baseball now, kind oflike you predicted. How are you feeling

(02:20:09):
about them? I feel excellent aboutit. I'm going I'm going to the
game tonight, and uh uh,the the lustrious charming Mattress mac Is is
is gonna I think we're gonna bein the sweeps. What a fantastic human

(02:20:31):
being he is, right, MattressMack taking care of people all the time.
That's awesome. And I know howyou feel about him, and rightfully
so. And and I wish Icould see you tonight. I really wish
I could see you, Uh,Sean and Chris, I've been willing to
see you too, And it's justit's just sad that I can't see you.

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Guys. You know, you know, shake your hands, you will
all that kind of promise you youwill, you will. Yeah, Well,
because I'm looking forward to it because, uh, it's gonna be a
good game tonight. And if theysee they are almost a thread from five

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hundred and let me tell you something, once they get the five hundred and
get over, it's gonna be history. And I've said it. You know,
we're gonna see who gonna get thelast laugh. And I'm really happy
about our astros, I really am, because uh, sometimes you just can't

(02:21:37):
start out fresh like you won't.But once you get adjusted and get your
head together, then things will startclicking in the right direction. Well,
Carol, go get them on wintonight. We need the askers to keep
this this winding streat going. Allright, so go go bring them some
good luck. I think they've won, they won last time you went bring

(02:22:00):
them that good look alright, yes, no doubt about it. Thanks and
shout out to mattress Mac. Alwaystaking care of those diehard Astros fans out
there. And yeah, Astros didn'teven play game yesterday and still close the
gap in the division as the SeattleMariners lost last night to the Tampa Bay
Race. That's now what this isfive of the last six the Marricks have

(02:22:22):
lost now Sean, so it's funnydoor win streak again. Seattle Mariners closed
that gap, and then the TexasRangers came into yesterday. They had won
four in a row with Matt Shirts, who're throwing a five shutout innings on
Sunday in his return, and thenthey go and lose up in Milwaukee six
to three. So yeah, allthese teams we were losing to, we're

(02:22:43):
losing this team. Hey, thoseother teams are losing to them too,
so shut up. You know,news flash, no team's gonna win one
sixty two. All right, it'syou're gonna trip up along the way you
think. But Astro's got to takecare of Business today. All right,
when we we've got more nuggets,we got to hit interesting comments from case

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The Shawn Salsbury Show continued. Ithink CJ is hungry. There was obviously
a lot of success, and guysare very proud of what we were able
to do and what he was ableto do. There's still some meat on
the bone. We still want toget after it. We want to finish
with the confetti falling down winning thelast one, and we weren't there.
We know the margin of victory inthis league is so small. We won

(02:24:54):
so many games last year about onescore with the late drives sometimes, so
we have to be ready to makea play to make a difference when the
those games that are even more importantin January. But what you make of
his quote saying I think he's hungry. I mean, I think we all
know that from lokod at C J. Stroud, right, But I'll tell
you what it would be easy tocrawl into. I had success as a
rookie. Everybody's telling me how greatI am. To want to eat but

(02:25:18):
not doing all the cooking you needto do, right, And I love
that. That's the first comment thatcame out of Case Kingdom's mouth about him.
When you read that quote, it'snot all these other stuff. Oh
and I think he's still hungry.It's the guy's hungry. You notice he
didn't say he's as good as twentyyard thrower as we have in the league.
Look what he's done leadership wise,Look how he elevated us. Look

(02:25:39):
how clutch he's been late, Allthose things what tells me that's an intangible
that matters, because if he's hungry, the running back's hungry, the tight
ends hungry, they stay hungry.It's easy as a young player, sometimes
even as a veteran to a veteran, to fall into a trap when you've
had early success, to get alittle casual in your preparation in the offseason.

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It just is not just him,but anybody. But when the first
thing I hear, Now, normallyyou hear that about what Gordy a ten
year veteran who hasn't been to theSuper Bowl, but it's been a really
good player in the league, thathe's grinding to go win. He's hungry.
You know, hey, Paul Mauricehungry, been in at thirty years
trying to win a Stanley Cup andfinally got it. That's hungry. But

(02:26:22):
a rookie usually you're still trying tofind your way. So what tells me
is that he's putting the time in. And I'd rather hear that than you
tell me, oh, man,boy, can he throw it? I
know that, And so I'm withcase Keenum on this, And to me,
yes, you think that everybody's hungry, But Gordy I tell you,
the fact is, and you knowthis, everybody's not as hungry everybody.
Some are complacent, some do Andthere's a difference between relaxed and casual.

(02:26:46):
Relaxed makes you play your best andthink your best. Casual gets you into
trouble. And so when you're thathungry and you had the success he had,
it just tells me we're looking fora sophomore dominant as opposed to a
sophomore slump. I think the guyshe's one of those guys, and you're
never slump proof, but the reallygood ones don't fall into two season long

(02:27:09):
slumps very often, and I thinkC. J. Stroud's one of those
guys. One of my only concernslooking at this team, Sean, is
I look around the league at lastyear, the year prior, at how
many quarterback injuries we have gotten.I mean, the interesting thing about the
Bengals was, you know, JoeBurrow goes down, they still were a
pretty competitive team. Is Jake browningthat they got some decent play out of

(02:27:30):
him and they were able to winsome games. Still stay actually heightened.
He bought himself about seven eight moreyears in a league with the way he
played honestly he did. Cleveland goesand gets you know, Deshaun Watson gets
hurt. They go and get JoeFlacco off his couch and it become a
playoff team. Joe Flacco helped helpelevate them, or at least keep,
you know, maintain some balance.Light out of his frigging mind. The
only thing I worry about, andI don't even want to say the words,

(02:27:52):
because I feel like you put iton into the ether. It will,
you know, manifest well fall battleand say it's never gonna happen.
How's that? So? We outwell? But Strout did miss two games
last year as a rookie. Youknow, we forget that. He got
to hit on the turf to headon the turf in New York gets the
Jets, and he missed the Titansgame. In the Browns game, they
went with Case Keenum over Davis Mills, and Keenum played well enough against the

(02:28:16):
Titans to get it done. Hedidn't. He wasn't awesome, but they
did win the game, and thenhe was terrible against the Browns. My
only problem is, look at hisquarterback room. I feel like you lose
Strout for any stretch of period thisseason, I feel like the seasons.
So with this schedule you're facing.I have no faith in Davis Mills or
Keenum at this point in his careerto fill in that gap and keep the

(02:28:39):
execution or the talent or both.Gordy the experience you like, and that's
why Keenum jumped over Mills. Yeah, they felt a guy who's played in
playoff games. There's one playoff gamesin Minnesota wherever he's been a veteran that
you can say doesn't need a lotof snaps during the week and can still
hold it down, but for anextended amount of time. Is it the
talent part, Gordy or the executionpart? Or does that does the talent

(02:29:01):
lead to the lack of execution?You're concerned to be able to sustain decent
enough play to have him be ina playoff run. And you know they're
not a super Bowl team without c. J. Stroud, But is that
what you're talking about? Not ableto sustain three or four wins type of
thing like, yeah, my TeddyBridgewater did with your Saints when Drew Brees
went down. Yeah, and hewas great for four weeks. I mean,
look, Keenum, I thought shouldhave transitioned to the coaching staff this

(02:29:22):
offseason. I mean the fact he'sbacks as a players kind of like,
you know, all we heard lessseason is how great you were in coaching
up CJ. And all this.Let's put a whistle around your neck and
let's take you off the rosters sowe can put somebody else on there.
But I just feel like I lookaround the league and I see, you
know, Gardner Minshew, Anthony Richardgoes down. The Colts were still they
were bound for the playoffs until Weekseventeen. They were fighting til the very

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end. I feel like if theSexans were to loose CJ. Stroud week
three for the season, they're notgonna do jack with the quarterbacks on the
roster. Let me ask you ishow many backups do you trust in the
league to win you three or fourgames. I'm on the go with the
list, you know, less thanfive. I could probably come up with
seven to ten. I would feelpretty good about Jacobe Brossett, Gardner Minshew.

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You know, Joe Flacco's the backup in Indie last year. I
mean, he looked pretty good nextyear this year, he was pretty good
in Cleveland last year. I couldcome up with a list of guys I
would trust, not saying I'm goingto win a super Bowl with him,
although Nick Foles did it in Philly, right, but hold it down to
where if it was a four gameinjury, you'll stay alive. Yeah,
And I just don't feel like theTexans have that with either of you.
Think it's the weakest position on theteam, even though there's experience in the

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room. You can make that case. Tim Boyle is their fourth stringer,
and I'm like, Tim Boyle,why didn't you take a flyer on a
Joe Milton, a Michael Pratt,a Spencer Rattler, somebody in the later
rounds that you could develop. Itold you how I feel I take it.
I do the Patriots way with that. I take a quarterback in some
round every single year because it leadsto assets. Brissett brought him an asset.

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Ryan Mallett, god rest his soul, brought him an asset. Jimmy
Garoppolo brought him asset. And youknow who the quarterback was through all those
guys at number twelve in New Englandwas pretty good. And you still did.
I believe in drafting at because younever know when you're gonna get that
sixth round hidden Gym or brock Purtywith the last pick of the draft.
So yeah, I I there's noListen, it would be a major falloff

(02:31:11):
if you did not have c.J. Shutt. Let's hope that doesn't
happen. But I get why you'reyou got a major concern in there that
while the experience is there, thetalent level may not be which you want
to sustain a chance to go wina championship. There's very few teams that
all take it one step for thatare going to win a championship, like
with Jeff Hosteller or Earl Morale withtheir backup quarterback. If you lose them

(02:31:33):
on the on the good teams inthe league, most of the time,
your team's gonna be in real trouble. Stroud stays healthy, this is a
super Bowl caliber team. Stroud getshurt. This isn't even a playoff team.
That's how I feel. You couldprobably say that about what two thirds
of the teams in the league,right, Cordy, Yeah, about right?
And again like look at the teamsthat weren't dead, but the Browns

(02:31:54):
were not dead. That's exactly right. So I seven one more segment to
go here, all on it toSean Salisbury Show. We'll wrap it up
after this. We want wait.Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety Sewan.
I got an email from the astros. I want to say, was they're
doing something like pick your own,pick your seat, name your price for

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these games. Is that? Areyou serious? Yeah? It's good a
dollar right behind home play. Well, they have to accept what you offer,
so it's like a bit, butyeah, I think it's something like
that. On their website you cango just name your price and they'll accept
it. And isn't tomorrow? Welltoday's is today? Dollar dog? So
tomorrow you would say Tuesday? TodaysTuesday? Yes, so today's dollar dog
as well as so isn't that itused to be Wednesdays in the last couple

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of years has been Tuesday? Right? Yeah? Yeah, I can see
tomorrow's day game if it was dollardog. That's amy from me. Oh
yeah yeah, give me give mea dollar beer with that and we'll be
yes, a dollar beer day.Yes, that'll sell it out. I'm
in. I got over there tosee they did they do the happy hour
thing on Fridays from five to seven. I got to go up there.

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Check that out a little bit.On Friday. I went to Friday Nights
game as a fan. Dude,they they load up up there, now
they do. I think it's fivedollars draft special in like a like a
little cup of beer. But thelines got so long. I was like,
you know what, I'll pay thetwelve bucks for the extra the time
I got to wait in that line, like I would need two of those
five dollars beers in my hand whileI wait to make my ext order.

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And then you miss two innings ofthe game. There you go, so
regardless. But but it was cool. I mean it was cool to see
a lot They had a DJ upthere spinning. I mean, it's nice,
dude. You yeah, you godo that the right way. You
got a good buzz going by thefirst pitch them. Oh frigging down,
no frigging down, do that.But there were there were other people who
are feeling pretty good. Now,I like what you're thinking. Yeah,

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now my wheels are starting to turnmyself. But then I would get nervous.
You're way up high man, thatrailing. I mean that's a far
drop down there. You better don'tlean over to grabbl hop fly, don't
get too close, run and don'tget too close. The last thing we're
running through kind of the quarterback depthchart. I was saying, I don't
feel good about the Texans. Depthin the quarterback room is something or to
happen to see J. Stroud.No, look, most people just go

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well, c J. Straw getshurt, the seasons over anyway. Yeah,
I get that, but like theCleveland Browns, their season wasn't over
when Deshaun Watson got hurt, youknow, actually played better. Yeah,
other teams, you know, GardnerMinshew played really well for the Colts.
They were in it till the weekseventeen last year. There were other teams
that played very well. So Iwas just looking up and down the roster
sean of some teams we're running throughsome backup quarterbacks that would take I mentioned,

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you know, take over Davis Mills, and uh, there's the other
guy, Case Keenum. I mentionedMitchell Trubisky. I mention Jameis Winston,
Justin Fields, Mac Jones. Here'ssome other ones. Sam Howell's an interesting
one. He's got a new homethis offseason. I'm gonna tell you what
from Washington, right or yes,yeah, he's in. Sam Howell is

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an interesting project in this league.When I say that he put up numbers,
I've talked to a coach who coachedhim and they love his football IQ
and he's a competitive sucker. Ithink that Sam How's starting in the league
that's not done. If if GinoSmith struggles at all in Seattle this year,
lookout Sam Job, Sam Howe.Yes, Sam Howe's starting years in

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this league are not done. Here'sanother one that's addressing Desmond Ritter. He
is now the backup to Kyler Murrayin Arizona. That's a guy. I
would take him over Davis Mills allday. I'm anxious to see where his
ability to sustain throwing as a batif he ever has to play a full
season of where he's a starter andthey got to rely on throwing it and

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not part of his feet, whichthat's easier said than done. When we
say take a guy's feet away,well that's tough to do. I'm anxious
to see what kind of thrower he. I think he's a decent passer.
He's got to grow a lot forme as a as a quarterback, not
just a thrower, but a passer. But I'm with you. I think
there's a toughness about him that Ilike. I think it's six and one
half dozen the other with the twobecause Mills and him. I think Mills

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is a better pere thrower of thefootball. But I think there's a toughness
about about Ritter for obvious reasons.What he's been through and the grind he's
been on. That's an interesting one. I'm anxious to see where he goes,
if he ever gets a shot there, and what it does for Kyler
Murray, if Kyler Murray is goingto play like Kyler Murray suppose to do.
Now, we'll give you there area few quarterback RUMs. Where is
Garoppolo at right now? Jimmy gis is he free agent? Is he

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still not signed? I've sitting herethinking the off season runs together, and
I'm thinking, you know he's hesays Los Angeles Rams. Oh, that's
right, Okay, so he hebecomes Stat's exactly right. He's Stafford's backup.
Now, that's that's the best thefirst two that may be the best

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starter backup in the league. Rightnow. You want to do this with
Lima out today, pick a daywhen he's back and just quiz, name
these quarterbacks. See if he canname the current because I'm like, I'm
like, what does that happen?That's what I'm saying. The off season
goes and quarterback back up movement somuch. It's checkers because it's bouncing around
sevents. It's not slow chess.It's checkers. And they're all over the

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place. Oh that guy went there. Oh that's right, and here I
completely forgot that Garoppolo is that's whybecause people were making fun of well,
Jimmy G's the backup, Matt Stafford'swhite. You know, all those little
memes that go on after she wenton her podcast. So yeah, you
atual quicks. If you can namethe current team for Kenny Pickett, Kenny

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two gloves is he's not tennis?Where is there? You go? Philadelphia
Eagle? Marcus Mariota. Mariota isnot Atlanta anymore. He is in uh
New York Giants. He's a commander. Oh there you go. I mean
this is wild. Did did youknow where Mariota was? No? I
did either. At first, Ialmost said, did he go back to

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Tennessee? I said, no,he's not there. I said Sam Donald
earlier in San Franz. He's thestarting quarterback for the Vikings. I mean,
gosh, said Donald was in SanFrancisco last year. They win,
got Donald this off season. Yeah, it's just wild. I can't keep
up with it. All right,that's that's good. He's the starting quarterback.
You mean until they open the seasonand they're starting McCarthy. That's jumping.
That's exactly like, because Darnald onlyhad a one year top Savages are

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starter. No, he's not.He's starting. There, you go,
that's good guys. Ross will bein with Seawn tomorrow. I'm sticking around
with stand North Lake next up comingaway right after this