MLB All-Star Game Recap, NFL Top 10 QBs, Special Guest Marty Smith Joins

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Okay, let's do this. SewnSalisbury, there to usc true, longtime
friend Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima,go Lobos. This is the Sean Salisbury
Show. Where in the world isBrian Lalima? Is he on a beach

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in CanCon? Is he celebrating thechip? Did he bring it home?
He might have. He pulled ahe might have a hangnail low management Summer
league him, I got you.He knows Meghan out of the All Star
Game. He's no Reed Shepherd.Well that w is though. Yeah,
I was gonna say the summer leagueGod, yeah, that's my favorite thing.

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Yeah you mean Brian, Brian,Uh, Brian, We're like,
you really don't have an injury,but it's kind of you played the day
before decide. Yeah, you're onthe holding that peanut Colada just fine?
Is l two? Yeah he uhhe. I think the stage was too
big for uh not now too bad, got too big for okay where there's

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no spot. I think he gottoo big for him. I think he
was overwhelmed with us to say,yeah, it happened. See he didn't
want to come in here and singthe national anthem like the rehab gal now
but but no he's at a Ithink it's the All wood Bat fourteen and
under tournament in Hoover, Alabama.All wood bats. Yeah, no pun
intend again, splinters and whatnot.Yeah, leave those kids alone. Let
them have their metal bat. Weshould be talking about. Don't be talking

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about wood at that age either,exactly. Yeah. So they're there,
okay, and uh he's uh,he'll be back, I believe Friday.
Okay, he had the other Itjust kind of fell and and I are
crushing him. He's like sports week, I'm busy. Yeah, I gotta
go. And just a week beforethat seemed to be slow to exactly he's

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the Yeah, the Kawhi Leonard astrosin the playoffs, he's here. Yeah,
all Star break, I've got atournament. Oh college football week open,
So yeah, let me get there. I got you to be there,
The Kawhi Leonard of Sports Talk sevenninety Brian. Yeah, I think
he's back Friday. I don't knowwhere they will, but we've told him

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no chip, Uh don't come back. Man. There ain't no seat for
if you're don't come back with thechip, especially in a wood bat tournament.
We're getting these kids ready, that'sserious, I know, Wow,
those kids are going to be readyall right, So we're with you until
ten o'clock. We got a lotof stuff to get to. Phone lines
are going to be open for you, of course, all morning, like
they always are. We love talkingto you folks at seven one three two

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one two five seven ninety seven onethree two one two five seven ninety stakeout,
coming up at seven o'clock. Correct, fifteen oh, seven fifteen.
That's right. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm a little rusty. I'm getting
my bearings. Hey, listen,at least you're here, and my best
ability is my availability. I'm herefor you. Damned rights, you damn

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so All Star Game last night,five to three win for the American League.
They win it late, Mason Millergets the win. How much of
it did you watch? Sean aboutall of it? Okay, good,
I'm an idiot, you know,of all the All Star Games? It's
what else is going on? Anyway, No question, I watched it,
and I don't even know if Iyou know, I've grown up in even
though Houston here, I've grew upin it because I'm a Red Sox guy.

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So he's growing up an American Leaguefan forever, right, and ak
I think they're ten of the lasteleven now, but I wanted to see
individuals. Who doesn't want to seeAli de la Cruz play right, Oh
my god, see what he's allelectrified? And I'm a big Jared Durant
fan who ended up winning the NBS. He would with the go ahead home
run. And who doesn't want tosee Miller the age pitcher who pumped it
up one oh four last night.That kid's freaky. He it's like they

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built out of a lab. Yeah, it's ridiculous, freaky. I want
to see Team four like forty pumpingone hundred and three hundred and four.
Yeah, with that, and hisarm is never gonna wear out because there's
legs are the size of like oldtrees. They always you know, all
those pitchers always said Clemens Ryan alllike it comes from the legs, all
lower half. Mo. When thatgoes fastball, it's like even in basketball

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when the legs go the jump shotflat and it's just not the same.
Quarterback the same thing. Now,quarterback Clay got to the point, maybe
more now than ever because of theability to run in those guys. But
as long as your legs can holdlike Warren Moon always had great lower you
know, half base and could playtill he's forty four. Nolan Ryan throwing
ninety five at forty at seventy right, So see, I wanted to see

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Nolan Ryan throw out that pitch,not not Adrian Beltrade open because he and
Ferguson Jenkins, because I think Nolanmight have gone on ninety three, okay,
ninety four, but yeah, thatkid, I want to see him.
I want There's a lot of newcomers. I'm I'm always intrigued with Ramirez
because I don't think he gets thecredit he deserves. You know, Cleaves
it was because well Clay you know, back in the day, Cleveland was

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had some cachet. It just seemslike Ramiz. Yeah, and they're playing
great baseball this year. It's justdude takes less to stay where he wants
to, I don't know, andhe doesn't look athletic at all, and
alls he does hit home runs,drive baseballs and do it all. I
wanted, you know, the GunnerHenderson's the I wanted to see the young
guys get after it. It wasjust kind of and Skeens getting out there

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and getting his start dude. Istill am fascinated were the dude was the
first pick of the draft and he'sstarting the All Star Game. He's six
and oh and he goes, youknow what, four and out and because
Soto drew the walk and then hegot to face judge who we didn't get
it's judgement after early pitch and rolledhim over. I wanted to see one
of those states three balls and likea battle row right where ske just says,

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you know what, I'm gonna throwa hundred the Pirates and you want
to see that grew a fastball,get him out of their pitches and go
home. Right. So I forme watching that All Star Game is and
the winner and you know, andand Duran with the game winner. But
just what And then I love iswatching class a close out games man,
that's freak show talk about and youstart to think about the arms. You

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know, he's running up there abuck one, buck two and when it
goes oh yeah, yeah yeah,he's like that's all you got, But
think about and those two all thesame team of that one. Right,
Miller comes in and gets it andyou're getting the closet. He's like,
you gotta go face what do yougot to face? Oh about Buck fourth,
then a Buck two, and theyboth have more than one pictures like
filthy. So it's like for themoments as opposed to the overall results of

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the game, the results of nodoubt about it just happened to be the
American League one again and a RedSox gets the hit and Jordan got his
walk, and thanks turned out well, yeah, Jordon didn't get hurt,
he got his one plate appearance.He got pulled. That's bach. Thanks
for being a good guy down rightup the road exactly set him down.
Hey, you go sit there becausewe know it's going to be a hell
of a rundown the stretch. Wewant you involved in it. Yeah,

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thanks for being a pro force,Bruce. But yeah, there were some
Astros fans on Twitter like, ohwhy would they pull him? Come on,
leave him. I'm like, gethim out, Yeah, why get
him out of there? Don't carewhat bubble wrap them? What do we
Yeah, just what we need ishim trying to be La Dela Cruz on
the basis, Yeah, got awayfrom me, my bad, And yeah,
I'm the same way I'm thinking.I think we all know Jorhan could

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hit exactly. There'll be a chanceone day for him to win the MVP
of the All Star Game. Lastnight and this year with all that's gone
on, ain't it? Brother,No, let's move and you're within one
game, Seattle is with is rightthere and we're headed there about two days.
Leave that one alone, right,I mean two days hitting well?
But Bregman is still not Bregman andKyle Tucker still has the worst shin bruise

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in the history of shin bruises.So you need or on aline? You
mean you mean the broken bone inthe what is the what's the medical term
for as close to a fracture asyou can get without having a fracture.
We like to call it a heemotoma? Okay, it just sounds worse.
Contusion, Yes, so what let'slevel him bruis, contusion, hemotoma all

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really the same thing, probably hadall How would we what sounds worse?
If I come up to you andsay, man, Bruce, my shin
yay man, I got a majorcontusion. I've got a tibual con us.
Yeah, or the real one islike when you watch it, heins
ci like c s I ye wouldyou what do you discover uh, subdual
hematoma. Yeah, that's all youhave, Bruce, got your head's a

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bruise, Oh got hematoma? Ishe dying? No, it's a bruise.
Okay, it's just a bruise onthe shin. That's good. It
feels like it because he hasn't playedross. It's been since June third.
Yeah. Oh the only thing we'vethe only depths we've heard is the dudes
on the treadmill and swinging off ate Listen. He's as durable as I
got news for you. Now.I know you got to protect your players.

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Yes, if that's a bruise,it's the worst bruise that we've ever
had in medical history ever, becauseDerek Henry is going to take a helmet
to the to the shin and playlike four days later. Right. I
think that's he has no choice.We'll put a pat on it and you're
playing. So I think it's youknow, preventative and all that, but
there's got to be and I understandit. They're not like this is how

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you've got to protect your rights,right, still winning, And that's exactly
right, thank goodness. And anybodythat out there says, oh they're better
without him. Stop that, pleasestop it. There have been some people
like, oh, they're winning withouthim, trade them away, let him
go. No, no, no, So it's one of those put it
this way. If it is abruise, it uh did that most of

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us Listen, I don't think you'dever looked and says bruis going to keep
you up for seven weeks. It'sthere's got to be whether it's a small
fraction of hairline fraction, right,Yeah, it's craziness, right, but
regardless that All Star game, it'sall fine, Danny and fun and games,
but we know the goal is iswhen you're with where they were and
where they are now within a gameof the Mariners. You didn't need Jordan

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Alvarez, like you said, takinga buck three to the Russ go ahead,
walk in exactly. I don't evenwant him, even if you don't
even want Tom running on the basepass, no doubt, no question about
it. If he had got on, I'm pinch running for him, even
though the big fella could move exactlyno plays at the play. We don't
need any of that for Alvarez,exactly right, all right, So we're

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gonna have a ton of stuff toget to. I still didn't even get
to what I wanted to get toin the first segment. I do need
to ask Sean Salisbury what does hethink about the state of the Major League
Baseball All Star Games, all StarGames in general. We also need to
get to, as he kind ofhinted at, did you hear the reason
why ingrid Andres says she butchered thenational anthem yesterday? It's a pretty valid

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reason. We can get to thatlater as well. I sing better than
that drunk brother, Well, WoTwe get you out there to vote?
To karaoke. I'm more of agod bless America in that because I can
get the low gotcha ye yee ye. At the end, I just do
Sinatra because you can just stay downhere and you're okay. Because if I

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hit the high notes, yeah,I'm not cool, plea. I gotta
have a harmonizer with me to getthose exactly. I guess my go to
would be I'm a like I'll tellyou what, dancing in the moonlight old
school almost every night, right,that's exactly. I can go one hit
wonder Yeah, brown eyed girl,I can get to I can get you

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some good country like anything of youknow, nothing of beer, can't Tennessee
whiskey. I can get there becauseI can. I can go the scratchy
you know, the horse voice,Chris Stapleton, any of those is?
What's my guy? What? Love? Lift us up till where we belong?
What's my guy's name? Prince?No, no, no, it

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wasn't Prince, but I like it. You don't know, you know,
love lift us up? I justnamed somebody. Sorry, love lift.
I'm googling it right, lift usup? We belong? Joe Yeah,
Joe cock Oh get you that yourfriends right? So there I can get.
But I'm not giving you anything thatrequires me to raise the voice and
ocome. I'm a low voice fromnot No one need a baker for you

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that they need a baker, allright? That sean? Like I said,
we've got a ton of stuff toget to. Slowest day of the
week, Yeah right, we gotthe All Star Game. We've got some
text and stuff to get to.I mentioned Ingrid Andres. ESPN came out
with their top ten quarterbacks list.We're going to go through that with a
quarterback. So you know that's gonnabe good. And you at seven one
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on Sports Talk seven ninety Ingrid Andres, who butchered the national anthem at the
home run derby. Apparently she wentto well, I mean, I'm not
going to try to make fun ofher if she's truly Yeah, it's an
issue, agreed, she's tweeting thenational I mean that was bad. Yeah,
it was awful. Somebody needed tostop her. I'm not gonna b

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s y'all. I was drunk lastnight. I'm checking myself into a facility
today to get the help I need. That was not me last night.
I apologize to MLB, all thefans in this country I love so much
for that rendition. I'll let y'allknow how rehab is. I hear it's
super fun now that that that's I'msure the recovery when you're done is fun,
so you're not drunk anymore. Yeah, and I will never make fun

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of anybody who's going to seek helpport. But no, I'm not sure that's
how you describe rehab if you're reallygoing for the right read it. I
guess she's fun. It's she wastrying to scast here. It's really fun.
But it also feels like when you'rekind of making this statement, it
probably wasn't the right choice. Yeah, jokes probably aren't the time of place
exactly. So I listen. Ifshe's going and she has a drinking problem,

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good on her for going and gettingit done. I don't know why
if you if she was drunk andit was visible, probably shouldn't have walked
her out there. Yeah, butyou know what I'm saying, to take
that risk, But if you don'tknowing she just takes I thought I sing
better when I'm drunk, and thatwhat we do at karaoke at the bar,
at least I think exactly until Isee the video the next day.
Yeah, that's why you hit thehit the delete. But that's what happened
to her. She saw the videonext day. In the entire world saw

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it. Yeah it was. Itwas a bad miss Cody Johnson last night.
I just did it the right way. Yeah it was. I didn't
catch it, but yeah, I'mgonna give Codes. I'm sure Codes was
on top of it. You know, sharply dressed, had it going on
and look the hat off while hewas singing and held the hat in one
hand and the mic and the other. He was he did a really good
job. But you know what,hopefully he'll get done. But it was
a here's the problem though, NowFergie finally gets the savage second place.

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That's true. Ever have to dealwith it. But hopefully, and if
this is the truth, I hopethat that she this Andrews Lady gets her
help and and next time it's uh, we get to hear her true voice.
If that's all, I'm glad youbrought up Fergie and not Roseanne Bar
or Carl Lewis, because at leastthose aren't. Roseanne Barr was trolling number
one and number two. Carl Lewisisn't a singer, right, so she's

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an actual singer. That's what makesit worse. Carlewis specialty is about to
happen here at the Summer Olympics whenhe just dominates people in the exactly field.
Okay, maybe I can't sing,but I'm gonna be run faster than
everybody. This is what she doesfor exactly exactly that. That's that's why
she took the cake at first.And you always know when you go to
the player's reaction because if you goback and watch Fergie's and the players are

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like when they're covering their mouth lookingit even in with this Andrescal in the
bulpit, I think it was.Was it Alex? I mean Alec Bohm?
Who was I think it was?They showed kind of gave that that
like refurl brown, look like whatis this? But that's how you'll always
be taste them, all right.I was at the NBA All Star Game,

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uh, at the form when MarvinGason you were three. Yeah,
I was about twelve rows up.No better way, you know, doctor
Buss. Yeah, is that tenminutes long? Yes, Chills the whole
time. Yeah, it was incredible, chills the whole time because people were
swaying. It was just it wasrespectful but soulful. Does that make it?

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Absolutely? And oh it's incredible sadlyenough? Right when I say shortly,
I can't remember how long when hiswhen his father was shot right shot
him him exactly. You watch theplayers. I mean it was chills.
I took three of my college buddies. We all went and you get there
early because it was the fabulous formand the stars were out and you're in
college. And we sat there andwe had phenomenal seats. Man phenomenal and

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he kicked it. You're waiting forthe All Star Games. Okay, we
get Marvin Gay too. And thenthat version. You're like, it was
in the building, you know howeverybody's in the building for that. I
was truly in the building for it. And I'm like, to this day,
I still get the chills thinking that'show it's supposed to be. And
it, like I said, itadded a bit of soul with reverence and
and and and it got going,I'm not even sure he knew when he

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was saying, right, and justthe players reaction, the players, you
could see it swaying back and forth. Yet when you go to the other
ones and they want to they've takentheir jersey and covered up their mouth because
they can't hold his last right.Right. But I I could argue,
and I know Whitney Houston's was atthe super Bowl. I guess, yes,

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yes, I can argue that.And I know the NFL the super
Bowl such a big deal, right, I can argue that I was.
I was there and part of whatI thought now in person, I've never
heard a better version then. Idon't know how you could. I've never
heard. And they also say thatWhitney Houston's was was recording anyways from before.

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Well his was flat out my eyesread, yes it was. You
know how when you hear national anthemsometimes you like people are all excited to
get the game. Let's get thegame going. Yeah, with Marvin Gae
it was like keep saying that thegame could wait? Could you could you
hold this out? But again,the version, dude, it was it
felt like the led Zeppelin stairway tohave a long verse, right, The

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fifteen version of the film more exactly. But it was when I tell you
that, no, you want tosay, oh, yeah, it was
fortunate I was in the building forthat. I know that's so jealous right
now, right, And that wasat the All Star time when the guys
took it serious. They played somedefense. They there was some pride in
stopping the next guy and the birdsand the magics of the world. Right,

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it was phenomenal. But the whenyou get that many stars out in
the biggest star of that NBA AllStar I don't even know who won the
MVP, now that I think aboutit. We stayed for the whole game,
right, I'm pretty sure it was, you know, eighty three.
Yeah, I don't think it waseighty four. I think it was the
eighty three All Star game, Okay, And I don't remember who the MVP
of the game was. I damnwell know who sang the national anthem?

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Though, yeah, it was onethree. The plan and that is playing
defense in an NBA All Star game. Because now there's guy on MVP,
Julius Irvin. How perfect is that? Because if you have you ever been
in a room with Doctor Jay,I mean, like at an event,
I haven't. And you know whatmakes this even better now that you said
that, and we might have evencommented on it. And I've been fortunate,

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you know, to playing or beingat an event most speaks Larry Bird,
Magic Johnson, Kareem abdul Jabbar,George Gervin. To look at that
list, right, so we arewhen you think about Doc, if you
ever go to a like an event, I've been fortunate to be him just
as as a guy, right,You know who the coolest guy in any

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room he goes in is doctor J. Doctor He's the guy who sits there
with his legs crossed and just relaxed. And every celebrity that goes by wants
to go over and talk to doctorJ. And he's just the coolest pastor
on the planet, right, Andyou can, you know, you think
and think about that if you're sayinghe's cooler and George Gervin's in the room,
because George Gervin's pretty smooth and silkytoo. Is that? Damn Doc?

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He had to win that MVP whybecause the coolest guy in the building
to start it is Marvin Gay whodoesn't want to make love to So you
can't have some flashy. You gottahave the guy who walks. No one
was making love during the anthemore theywell that you saw, dude. You
got to the point where it gota little hited. I started looking at
my buddies and say, no,not today's so yeah, but so you

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had you know now that you thinkof us eight? Oh of course Doctor
J what it because every room hegoes in. Yeah, he's the coolest
dude. So you give me DoctorJ and Marvin Gay the same building,
winning the MVP and a forum nationalanthem at the Fabulous Form Yeah, right
there in Inglewood. Nothing like it. Man, that was awesome. Not
too shabby. That was a shabbyall right. We got to take a

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break here. It is Seawn SalisburyShow. You want to get in.
We're talking all star games. Wegot astro stuff to get to. We've
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You mentioned how competitive it was guysplaying defense and all that type of stuff
you watch the all Star Game lastnight. We always talk about the Pro
Bowl, we talked about Major LeagueBaseball. How do we fix this?
Did you get the sense? AndI didn't watch it because I still don't
have power at cable, so Ionly watched the highlights. But did you
get the sent Did you like theway that the game was set up,

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the competitive nature of it? Didyou think it was it was well executed
to do or does it need si? I think it's by far. I
think all of them need adjusting inthe major sports, and now we even
got hockey that has let me likeyou get like three men on the ice
at times for bigger scoring and thatthey mix and match. I still like
when it comes to All Star Gamestradition, I do I want here here

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if the way to fix it?I sadly I'm going to say this,
like in the NBA, there's onlyone way to fix it, straight cash
on me. Yes, that's whatI was thinking. I hate to say
it. There's only one way tofix it, and it's it's sad we
got to say that that the PrideI don't always say well Pride or at
the time now where these guys likescrew Pride Marcellus Wallace, right f pride,
yeah heard it never help want toget paid? Right, right,

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That's exactly right. So then Ithen the question is if you said,
Okay, first of all, Ilike getting back to its Western Conference versus
Eastern Conference. Is where the starsare drafting guys from different I don't want
that. I want the pride factorof its West receiats, which I think
we went back to last year.I'll be honest with you. I used
to watch. I was never aPro Bowl guy. I don't think i've

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ever watched. And maybe when Iwas twelve fifteen, and even as a
player, and when I covered itfor ESPN, we'd go do pregame show
and leave you not even want toagain if we had to do a halftime.
I haven't watched a box score whileit was going on. You're sitting
at like Georgia's or whatever it's called, some beachside bar right with guys who
begged down time. That's exactly rightwith the sun. I've never watched the

(25:34):
full Pro Bowl in my adult life. Okay, so I listen. Sometimes
you watched early a quarter, likewhen like my buddy when rich Gannon went
on an empty we watched some Buddies, right, but I never watched it,
and I haven't seen fifteen snaps ofthe Pro Bowl, and I don't
watch the flag football thing either.I just maybe it's because it's I feel
like it's like, I guess ifyou're a lawyer, you probably aren't gonna

(25:56):
spend too much time watching Maybe youdon't watch a law show long or right
exactly, But it just it doesn'tanswer you're not watching Pelicans. It sucks.
I've stated enough, right, butI don't. I'm just not a
pro bowluy because it's not competitive.It's it actually borderline, borderline. You
shouldn't be scoring. Say oh thatthat's why they moved. Nobody wants to
and it should be in Hawaii.If you're gonna do it, go back

(26:18):
to Hawaiian play regular game. Sogive the guys a trip to go on
with the NBA. I think theonly way you can salvage it is money.
And so what you know, andwe're all sitting back, you're saying,
oh, we got to pay theseguys more money or cancel the damn
thing. If you want to givethem three days off. Yeah, it's
it's tough to reconcile because we wantit both ways, Like we were saying
last segment, like we don't wantord On getting hurt. We don't want

(26:40):
him taking an inside pitch or anything. But you want the game to can
be competitive, but you can't reallyhave both at the same time. So
it's kind of a tough spot becauseyou know, back in the FIT,
like when they invented All Star Games, it's because the league was fledgling.
The league needed, they needed press, they needed to grow the league before
and now they're all billion dollar leagues. You don't need the All Star Games
to serve. Now. Pro Bowlcan go away and nobody'd miss it for

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them. No, it kind ofbasically has right and the NBA also basically
it's a go party with the fellowstype of thing. Listen, I'm listening
with an honor. That's of courseit is. And there is no doubt
Willie Mays I think played like fourinnings. Wise, I think Willie Mays
well, first of all, heplayed like twenty four of them. Yeah,
I believe during the pregame show lastnight, if I heard right,

(27:22):
I think he played like the fullgame like four times. And I know
when I was growing up when Iwatched it, like when I was younger,
Like the Pete Roses and those theywere in the game till the seventh
inning. Now, I know youwant to get everybody in, but they
were and it was an exhibition playingthere as when and Pete Rose is coming
around home play were wearing out RayFawson. Yeah, now and changed his
complete career. Now you don't wantthat to happen. Point is the pride

(27:45):
getting back to it and when birdmagic. I hate to say it,
but one hundred and thirty two pointsin an All Star game is a low
story by about seventy locking down,no doubt, but the fact that you
want to I loved it then.Now it's like, come on, man,
you're just clearing out a lane fora guy to dunk, and it's
it's I get what, But there'sthere only comes a point in time where
you can throw so many bounce passesoff the backboard and it's done the same

(28:07):
way. I'd rather have it comedown now. I know it kicks in
with five minutes to go, Butwhat if every player you said, we'll
pay for your expenses. But whatif it was a winner take all that
the winning team gets it and thelosing team gets nothing like a million a
person or something like that. Ihate it. It shouldn't be. But
if we're really if you want gettingKia or right, Keia does a bunch
of whoever does the NBAHLF two milliona guy? Now the other team will

(28:30):
pay for your expenses to go,but especially the winner guys on rookie deals
in there. Two million a guy. Yeah, what's that? Twenty four
million bucks? Plus the coach thetwenty thirty million? Somebody can cover that,
right, thirty million bucks? Andif you lose, you go home
with nothing. You win. Ilike the MVP getting a trophy, a

(28:51):
new vehicle and kicking another half amillion bucks whatever it is, or can
out the two hundred fifty thousand.You're like, Sean, we got to
pay him more if you want theAll Star Game because they will not show
up. We got a home runner. He's now a million bucks. That's
what he wanted, that's what that'swhat he taskar won a million dollars to
win the home run Deer of Me. So I know the competitiveness kicks in
because that's natural for him. Butif you want it from start to finish

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and you want guys to you wantto log more minutes with some of the
guys. Two million a man.I hate to give him more money,
but if you want it, twomillion a man. But it's winner take
all. The losing team walks outof that building, doesn't get a dime.
Yeah, you have to. Ithas to be that kind of incentive.
They won't care. I mean,if you're the Rockets, Let's say
albrnching Goon makes the playoff, itmakes the All Star Game. You don't
want albrnching Goon out there in anexhibition game go on a ham and trying

(29:37):
to get hurt and in an ankleor anything like that. So it's tough
to balance both of them. Findthe happy media, right then you say,
well, teams are gonna be like, oh, they're playing for that.
But then the guy's gonna say fortwo million, damn right, I'm
playing. Yet the other side ofit, when people say, well,
what is Lebron gonna do with twoextra million? I got news for it.
Two million is still two million,Okay, two million is still two
million. When did we get toplay where I don't need? I mean

(30:00):
to me right right, that's exactlyright. So if you're gonna change the
Pro Bowls unwatchable so you can forgetthat, I can't stand. Yeah,
they they switch it. You know, I thought it was a good idea.
I was like, Okay, they'regonna switch it to the flag football,
the dodgeball, the whatever. Andthen I watched it and I'm sitting
there like, I feel like I'mwasting one near at cheese Mow and it's
time. If you're gonna do it, send to what some of the best

(30:22):
times I had with those buddies ofmine, Yeah, was for a week
in Honolulu. Dude. Okay,well, let's see that he does what
we should do. They should dobar games, chugging content, that's exactly
whatever it takes. Cornhole, yeah, which one. Okay, we always
talked about the big offensive lineman pickingup. Are we sure running back can
out eating offensive, you know,like they do with the roast like the
wing Bowl, Let's mix mix thatin and start giving money for that whatever

(30:47):
leshy wing right, and you can. You could get sponsors for it.
If you're gonna make it a flagfood, then let's go all in.
But Honolulu, if you're gonna,I'm just a traditionalist. I want to
see. I want to see DocJay dunk on somebody trying to compete and
knock it down. But we're gettingto the point how the money is so
big. It's like you want theguy to follow and hurt an ankle.
Well, then don't have it.If you're not going to be competitive,

(31:08):
then stop the embarrassment. But thisone's still to me because you tell me
this. If Miller's facing, well, they're on the same team. But
if judge or let's put it ina nationally oh Tony or yeah, Bryce,
Harper is right, and the money'sright. And you got him pumping
at one at ninety at a buckfour and Harper's at the plate, who
hadn't been in an All Star Gamelast clar you know last night was his

(31:29):
first All Star Game as a Philly, as a Philadelphia, a Philly because
of injuries. Right, it's gotTommy John is exactly and so and as
a first baseman. You're telling methose two aren't in the ninth inning,
yeah, down two and a manon second base at Harper's not dialed in,
of course you are. So it'sstill the most competitive the NBA has
become. On what it's like comeon Buddy to contend something and the Pro

(31:52):
Bowls just unwatchable, so I couldcare less about any of them. But
I used to watch the two ofthem, the NBA All Star Game and
Baseball religiously. I watched them religiously, no doubt about it. They did
the the the the home field advantagefor the World Series, which is a
bad idea. Yeah, if you'regonna do that, then don't make me
choose a guy from every team that'snot an All Star. Let's pick the

(32:15):
guys and I'm gonna I'm gonna mystarters going six and the way that rule
needs to go away. I mean, that's screw de ren al Blanco from
being an All Star. Listen,I understand, but in truth, once
the game starts. Now, thehome team, i'd get if you go
on a home team the Rangers ifthey had it, but they're gonna have
a guy. You can make thatrule, you know, like the the
host country gets in the World Cupno matter what, right, how about
the home team gets one player youget and if you're a man for the

(32:37):
World Series, we're not gonna woryabout because you're gonna four five of them
because Rangers are filled with some prettygood players, right, So for me,
I don't need a two four.Well, if you're two and seven
as a pitcher, you're not anAll Star, Okay, so I'm I'm
sorry. I want every i'd likein all All Star Games. I want

(32:58):
football. You can't because the scheme, But I guess you could if it
was home and away thing for yourhome and away. But in basketball,
and in especially in baseball, morethan think. I want their whole their
uniforms, yes, just their regularfavorite uniform. Let them choose which one,
but get there the old traditional.I want the Yankees in their Yankees,
the Red Sox, the Astros intheir own uniforms, because I don't

(33:21):
I don't need them in these youknow, ugly. Of course I do.
I get it everything that it leadsback down, of course. But
if you're just asking me what turnwould I like? I like seeing Willie
Mays in a San Francisco Giants uniform, or when when you go back and
watch Reggie Jackson in those sweet assleaveless with the green oakland A uniform.
Right that that's the way I likeit? All right? How would you

(33:43):
fix the All Star Games? Orare they find the way they are.
Is it just how it is withthe way the state of the games are,
with all these millions these players aremaking seven one three two one two
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wasn't going to appear at the atthe All Star Game, saying, hey,
the guy can go out there.He's playing games, he's hitting home
runs, he's getting hits. Youhave any problem with jose Al Twov not
showing up at the All Star Gamethis week? It's his listen. I
always like, you know, likeMarina went in the Pro Bowl back in
the day, when it's it's stillmessing. They get to a point.

(36:43):
You've been to so many of them. So yeah, they had the at
and T Pebble Beach prom was goingon at the same time, so some
of those guys say, yeah,I got to get my knee cleaned out.
But then you see about there.Yeah, they're they're they're driving all
yeah, they're they're hitting balls atPebble Beach. So I get it.
I mean I've always said maybe ifyou haven't been to many and you're like,
I'm going to everyone of them,and then when you've got when you're
like Bruce Matthews was in yesterday,Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you've

(37:06):
been to thirteen the Pro Bowl.After at this point you've been a thirteen
in a row, it's like,you know what, maybe the thirteenth and
I'm gonna take this time off,right, But then you get to the
point I say, coach, I'mgonna come, I'll play a first series.
Then can I have the vacation withmy family for the other week or
two? We're gonna stay. Iyou know what I don't. I probably
changed ross. I've gotten a littlemore. I don't know. Uh,

(37:29):
I guess my bandwidth on understanding whyguy's doing don't over the years, right,
yes, because years ago is like, I don't care if you get
elected to twenty of them, Somedayyou're gonna go back and say, like
Willie, go to all of you, because it's a different group. Heck,
I think we had thirty new playersin this All Star game, thirty
plus somewhere around the first time AllStars. But you go down, Miller,

(37:49):
I mean you start to go downand say, yeah, some of
the names. If you're not payingattention to their city, you don't know
enough about him. You know,you're like, right, that guy was
in Triple eight ten years ago.Learn in the play exactly. So I
get it now. I don't knowif someday he'll say, you know what,
I probably should have at the enddone it for the last five years.
But you still get the recognition youwere an All Star. You just

(38:12):
didn't show up even if he didn'twant to play on the resume. When
he goes in the Hall of Fame, it'll be on the plaque, no
question about. But he's such agood guy. I don't think he does
it out of it. I alsothink I understand why you'd want to rejuvenate,
spend a few days with your family. Yeah, if it's your first
one, I don't understand why you'dsay no. But when you're pushing double
digits and you've been to six,seven, eight of them, I get

(38:32):
it. But I think different I'mlike, all right to all of them,
Yeah I did. Maybe I cansay that's sitting here because I haven't
gone to ten of them, right, but I probably get to a point,
especially in baseball, it's like Ijust kind of like, I'm one
of those I love to go intotraining camp. I did. I love
training camp because the fellas, thecamaraderie, the stupidity, the laughs at
midnight when you're like the next day, when every single one of us it's

(38:55):
played is like two practices in,You're like, I'm quitting, I'm going
to tire. I hate it.I'm quitting. I'm tired. And then
you get you get your ass outof it and go practice and you're like,
I love this, right, That'sjust the way it is. So
I'm one of those guys that lovedthat. So like when I when I
see like, you know, theseguys talking and laughing, and those are
memories you'll never remember, probably howmany hits you got, but you're gonna

(39:20):
remember the new dude. And Ithink everybody would love to have Jose there
because he's a good guy and he'sa great player. But I'm not shying
away from booze. Do you thinkhe's doing that from what booze maybe maybe,
and also to the point where hegoes into cities and gets and gets
uh disrespected everywhere for a guy whodoesn't deserve it's Carlos Kore getting booed.

(39:40):
And then you could hear on thevideo him saying everywhere I go. Yes.
So you get to the point wherethe thick s yeah, you get
too, points like I'm here forthe Fellas. If the fans want to
boo me, they want to,but that's fine. They're they're uninformed on
why this happened and aren't we passedthis yet so and they probably never will
be. And it's like you're directingit the guy who's one of the best
guys on the world in jose Altub which is really weird, but I

(40:05):
do get where he's like, Idon't even to deal with Hassel. I'm
gonna get won a bad anyway.I am an all star. I don't
want to do it. And plusthe other side, he can get it
clears the way for somebody else whomay have not been to one who does
deserve it, Charity de Marcus Simi. And there you go, and he's
in his building. So whether hewas thinking that or not years ago to
say you get elected, you gowhat an honor? Right? But I
also get the point you got elected, he did it. Plus he's you

(40:27):
know the hands, right, andyou never know right. So I really
don't have a problem. If you'dasked me a question fifteen years ago,
I'd have said, come on,man, at least show up and sit
in a dugout with the fellas andyou don't have to play. But you
know what, I wasn't glass nowthere last night he's out. He got
hurt, right, he didn't getto pitch in it? Right? Is
he banged? Yeah, he bangedout. Thinks so hey, there's a

(40:47):
couple of players that are elect WhenI'm okay with that. You show up
and you're with the fellaws you don'twant to play, Or a guy who
started on the end of the laststart on a Sunday before the All Star
Game is there, but he's notgoing to pitch. I get all that.
So no, actually, Ross,I'm not bothered by it. But
I get why guys would go toevery single one of them because it's a
new group and it's just the experience. Someday you'll look back and say,

(41:09):
I wish I could go be withthe fellows again. I know how that
goes when it comes to training camp. So I missed that part of it
more than anything. All right,so we'll see what would you do?
You have a problem with it?I don't have a problem with it.
I also don't think he's one hundredpercent And if he doesn't want to go
and get booed by a bunch ofidiots, that's fine with me too.
Yeah, And isn't it especially downwhere it was played last night where it's
gonna be a little harsher because they'reall just all those fans booing him in

(41:31):
Arlington are really just waiting for cowboys. Sees that that's exactly well, they're
going to get booted at that pointin time too, so so that that's
okay Bill doing booing at dak Prescottin three months. Yeah, this,
well, let's see, it's you. It's your obligation. No, it's
not his obligation. His obligation ifyou want to spend with his family and
relax, let him exactly. Idon't have problem with it. All right,
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Yes, oh good. I'm reallyexcited to see where he goes.
I loved what he did at Tulane. The guy knows how to recruit and

(44:34):
they respond, and I can't waitto see how what he does with this
team and the not only explosiveness,but the discipline and where they're taking this.
I really am. This is agreat hire. I think they learned
from I think they kind of wentto Kelvin Sampson route, somebody that yeah,
you can go with the up andcomer guy, but those guys could
get hired away with a guy likeWillie Fritz, who's a season I won't
call him old, we'll call himseasoned veteran, but somebody who can live

(44:57):
out their contract and do a greatjob. I think we'll if its as
a smash. Yeah, who's thissuper Bowl champions Andy Reid? Yeah right,
he's doing okay, yeah up andcomer my ass. And he's still
innovating. You could be seventy.He's not seventy, but you get my
point and still be really innovative.It depends on It's the willingness to change.
Listen, when Andy Reid came outwhen he was in Philly and they'd

(45:20):
run the West Coast offense. Whenhe got Mahomes, Andy's opened up the
playbook because you know why, goodplayers help you get some bandwidth. Right,
It's the same thing here Willie Frit'sability to go. When you got
to be able to recruit, youbetter get buy in and in college football,
and you're gonna have to embrace witha lot of people don't want to
embrace now, young or old istelling used to be just had to tell

(45:42):
an eighteen year old how great hewas. Now you gotta tell him how
great he wasn't tell him how muchyou're gonna make him right, So buy
into the nil and transfer portal anddeal with that. And he's the leadership
is important and the number one thingaside from a great teacher and a guy
who cares and gets buying. AndCalvin Sampson is at university with Kevin Sampson
has learned that that says you mentionedross the way to go. And if

(46:05):
leadership is important, we've seen howimportant it is with Kelvin Sampson's team and
what he brings every day. IfWillie Fritz can give eighty five percent of
what Kelvin Sampson does, this team'sgonna be really good in the Big twelve.
Yeah, absolutely so. Coach Fritzcoming up at one o'clock here on
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(46:30):
stakeout coming up at seven point fifteen. We've been talking some text and stuff.
We've also been talking about the aboutthe All Star Game, and I'm
having some issues getting into my phonescreen or I don't know if we want
to get to Chris here, Sean, or if you can put yeah tripley,
can you pull him up for us? Thank you? Go ahead,
Chris. The floor is yours andturn turn your radio down, my man,

(46:50):
turn your radio down. There youno part, you got it,
no problem. No, I justwanted to chime in on the All Star
You know, Roz, ask you, Sean if you are set with Al
two Bay playing. And I knowI'm gonna sound like a hypocrite because I
called it in two weeks ago,mad that Blanco and uh Scott Taylor Taylor
Scott didn't get in. I reallydon't really care if any Ashos are playing

(47:14):
in it. Honestly, I don'twant anybody to get hurt. I just
wanted Blanco and Scott to get recognizedfor what they did. But the last
thing I would really want to seeis Al two Bay get hit in the
hand, break his hand to beout the last sixty days of the season.
Don't say that out loud, Chris, come on, and and really,

(47:34):
All Star games, I mean they'renot fun anymore. They used to.
They used to be fun when you'dsee you know, when I went
no for in Houston and everybody waswearing their own jerseys, their own uniforms,
And I mean it's kind of thesame thing with the Pro Bowl too,
the Pro Bowls, not even Imean it's competitions, but there's no
football game. There's no seeing,you know, like when Jeff's Saturday came

(47:59):
in as a packer and hiked thefootball to Peyton Manning one last time on
the Broncos. You don't see thatanymore. So, I mean, just
all Star games aren't as fun anymoreas I used to be. So I'm
gonna hang up and listen to y'all'sreaction on that. I could agree more,
appreciate Chris agree more with him.Yeah, I mean, you just
don't want guys to get hurt.That's basically you've And that's actually something if

(48:22):
we're talking about and we'll talk aboutthe Astros second half and coming up in
the stakeout in the next segment,if I would say what am I worried
about going forward for the Astros.Of course number one is health, but
that also wraps into the guys thathave been taxed. The Taylor Scotts who's
pitched so many games, the Brianbrew the even Josh Hater he's pitched like

(48:42):
forty games and I think he pitchedsixty something last year. And then you
have Renel Blanco who's been fantastic,but he's creeping up on the most professional
innings that he's ever pitched. HunterBrown and Righetty young guys. I and
I don't want to sound like aworry word, but because this a great
winning run, they've been much needed. If they didn't have this winning run,
they'd be done, they'd be sellers. And they got help. Now.

(49:05):
Who wasn't that some help who's absolutelycollapsed? So you've got help there.
But I do kind of looming inthe back of my mind come September
when the innings are racking up onall these bullpen arms and all these starting
arms who haven't been through these wars, and then into October, where are
we gonna be? Yeah, andthat's exactly why you're gonna have to go
get another arm or two here beforethe trade deadline. You just are there

(49:30):
to me, But it's not gonnabe you know, Crochet, You're not
gonna more than likely get a guylike that, because you'd have to.
It wouldn't just sting to give upwhat you'd have to give up because they're
gonna hold you hot. I'd holdsomebody hostage right now, wouldn't you.
If I'm a team that wants todo I'm gonna make you and you don't
want to operate out of desperation.Ever, Yeah, does Dana Brown have
the funds though to go get thosearms? Not not that guy, but

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the question. And I wouldn't thinka high priced rental, but a guy
who could be a third or fourstarter that'll eat up innings and give you.
Now, listen, if I couldget like a Nathan Evolved, if
the Texas Rangers are willing to,they're not. Rangers aren't going away.
They're not going away, and you'renot going right, But because I know
he logged seven inning set, he'sjust and he's a really good in the
postseason. But you're not getting aguy like that. I'm talking about a

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guy like that, right, Butyou're not getting that. And they're gonna
with If de Gram comes back andSteve sparks mission on Monday, the Rangers
are going to hang around and they'rewell managed and they can mash too when
they're help. They're not going anywhere. I assure you, they're not going
anywhere. So for me, andback to his quote about the All Star
Game, listen, and whenever it'slabeled as an exhibition, guess what I

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get why, guys, can youimagine losing a season because the guy got
hit with the ribcage fastball missed threeweeks four weeks because of it. So
I completely get it and why youwouldn't do it. But as for Ross,
I'm with you. It's the laboringthat what's going to happen and said,
because I'm telling I don't believe LANCERAColors is pitching this year. I
don't think so either. Luis Garciajust got shut down and downgraded from his
read, he got pulled from rehab, and now he's just gone back on

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what they call throwing program. Soyou tell me you think you're seeing either
one of them, and before September, if you saw either one, I
don't Maybe Garcia, I don't thinkyou're seeing Lancelot total to five. I
don't think so either. At thispoint. If I had to bet,
yes, exactly. And then dude, you got any word how much closer
Verlander is? No, he's throwingoff of a mound. Just validates more

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of what you're saying is the inningsadd up, brother. And then when
he comes back, he's forty oneyears old. He's been on the IL
twice already, this year. Ifyou want a six bad rotation, we're
trying to find a fifth. Andif I told you three now, if
I told you three months ago,here's gonna be your aces down the street.
We know fromber But think about this, you're gonna have to rely heavily
on Renewe Blanco, who was thirtyor shouldn't be in the All Star Game.

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That' has never done this before.Hunter Brown who first six, gave
his first six starts the season wewanted him with triple A and now he's
a frigging bulldog and wearing people out. And then you're relying on a rookie
to say I need seven innings andouting or six innings from Jake Arraghetty.
Think about what you're asking, right, And a guy who's bullpen's been your
best pitcher in the bullpen. He'sbeen on seven teams in seven years,

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and now you better side he ain'tgoing He ain't gonna be on eight teams
and eight years because he's not goinganywhere. But point is, that is
who you're relying on. And ifI told you that in spring training,
you say, well, Sean,what are we We finished in with seventy
two wins this year. That's whatyou would have said to me, absolutely
and not now, And but it'sgonna be a grind, brother, save
us. Jake bloss samas Arri Gettylike, amen, Yeah, you're down

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to like your tenth starters at thispoint. There you go Sean Duban for
life, and you've got to hopefor everybody else miss his time. That's
that's another thing you gotta say.The rest of them got to stay healthy
throughout the rest of the season,can they without missing starts? Exactly?
I mean you go down Kyle Tuckerand then whether you're done a pregnant or
al tuo v or whatever, thenyour Dubon every day, your Trey Cabbage,
you're Joey lo Berfito. I mean, I like those guys, but

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they're they're not. They weren't inthe All Star Game last night. Tall
task brother. Yeah, you're exactly. It really is. It really is.
But the experience and understanding how toI don't like the word pace yourself,
but how to had to deal withthe Bucks sixty two and deal with
the ups and downs of it.Astros have been about as good as anybody
the last seven years of doing it. But this is as big a challenge
as they face in those years.You don't want to rob Peter to pay

(53:09):
Paul, using them, using everybodyup now and then comes September is when
when things start getting strained, Dude, Paul Peter will be dead by the
time you have to pay Paul,rob him in, beat him up.
All right, what will happen inthe second half for the astros? We're
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All right, Sean, what areyou hearing out there now? The Salisbury
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(55:50):
And Shawn, I have to askyou, all right, put you
on the spot, please do acouple of second half predictions for the Houston
Astros. First up, we arefor two weeks to the day from the
trade deadline. I want you tocheck a box or leave it unchecked.
We're going starter reliever first baseman DanaBrown does what not? What should happen?

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We know all three would be helpful. What will happen. Starter first,
no question has to be. Thepriority has to be. And I
actually think that they believe, andI know I'm trying to go with what
I believe. The starter is gonnabe first. I just don't know.
I think they're gonna do everything theycan to get it. And even asking
him, I said, will itsting? He goes, yeah, in

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order to get something, it's gonnasting a little. So I think they're
gonna do everything they can to geta guy. Now where that guy would
line up and who's gonna be available, And one thing about it, it's
not like free agency, as youwell know, to where he gets one
way street. Other than the negotiationwith a guy you're going to get,
the other team has to be willingto deal with you, and you have
to get what they want. Soyou have to beat out the other team,
no doubt. I actually think,well, I think a big bopper,

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and if you could pull off ofVlad Guerrero ped Alonzo the Great,
I think so. I think it'dbe much easier to go get another reliever
to use up some inning. Ithink it goes this. Do you,
as Dana had mentioned, do youwant a nine hundred ops guy at first
pace of course, you know,yeah, they don't and they don't come

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free. Okay, so I'm goingin the order you mentioned them in your
read and I don't think you're goingto get a bopper first. I think
they're going to continue to do itand let Singleton be the regular permission I
do, and I think you'll getguys mixed in. They're a little change
up, you know, when platooning. But I think Singleton's going to be
the guy in the second half ofthe season. I think they're going to
focus their energies on a starting pitcher, a reliever. I think they get

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two pictures. I do. Idon't think it's just I think they're going
to get to to log to helpout, so you don't have to keep
saying, well, Scott, canthey keep doing this to save the back
end of the bullpen and to hopefullylog more innings on the front side can
get more not knowing and now whenyou mentioned Garcia and knowing about it's I
think the biggest guarantee at the tradedeadline is that the Astros are gonna move

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on somebody and an everyday player isgoing to be gone. I was gonna
actually, you stole my thunder.I literally have it right here tied up.
That was gonna be my next question. Would a twenty six man roster
player be traded on the astros?You say yes, yes, and I
think it'll be one of the outfielders. I tend to think you good more
than Myers. Yeah. I wantto a deal, not as the main

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piece, because you know, butthe meaning where you just go now,
maybe for a reliever McCormick for areliever, but to get a starter that'd
be part of it. Not McCormick, for you're definitely you need to find
somebody that believes in McCormick, whichcan't happen. Last year he had to
no ps over eight hundred day iswhat he has to do too. When
you traded away. A couple ofyears ago, Abraham Toro James Click made

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the deal for Kendall Graveman and RafaelMontero, which got us the Montero problem,
but that's another story for another day. The Seattle Mariners thought that they
could really turn and Abraham Toro intosomething. Now that didn't work out,
But if you you need to findsomebody who could, he says, Hey,
you know how they say I canfix her. Oh yeah, I
can fix Chaz. I can.I can make him an everyday outfielder.
He's got defensive value that's going tobe there no matter what. Plays hard.

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He can cover ground, all thattype when he's doing it right exactly.
If you can get him right,yeah, then I think I think
he is going to have value toan end. I believe that people are
inquiring every day about a guy likelow Perfito. I do. I believe
you're calling every day about him.Can't part? You can't part with him?
Can no? I'm talking about Dana. The resistance of having to part
with a guy like that, Ithink it's too value, especially not knowing

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where Kyle Tucker's gonna end up intwenty twenty six. I think that it's
important that you have to I don'tlike to think eight years out ross because
eight so many things can change.But a year out with a guy like
that, who I like. Hecan run, he can hit for power,
he can play all three outfield positionsif you need him more of a
corner outfielder guy. But he's lowPerfedo. I don't think he's going I
just think people are inquiring about him. I do think a guy off the

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major league roster will be out,and I do think that two pitchers,
a starter and a reliever come here. And I don't think a first baseman's
part of this unless one of thoseteams wants to give Now. Listen,
here's a sneaky one and as badas started to heat up, and it
would be a rental sneaky one justin case. But I don't know if
they're going to part with it nowbecause they're starting to play good baseball again
too. Will Paul Goldschmidt be available? And would you be willing to give

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up a minor league prospect and maybesomething right to get Goldie right and have
him come here? As I believehe's a rental Yeah, and he started
out the season struggle, but heis if you know, I was watching
the Cardinals over the weekend and hethis path, I mean, uh,
this past weekend before the All Starbreak, and gold Schmid is starting to

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it's starting to to to the averageis starting to rise. Now. He's
not Paul gold Schmidt from five yearsago or even three years ago, but
he's still Paul gold Schmith in thatin this lineup, different protection, different
pitches. You don't have to hedoesn't have to hit in the four hole.
You can stick him in. Hell, you could actually put gold Schmidt
the five or six old and productI want. And I haven't heard anything

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new. I'm just saying that younever if if you were going to go,
get one, that seems more logicalthan going and getting Alonso. Those
feel like type dreams. Gold Schmidtfeels a little bit more right, and
it's still it's doable, And maybeif you got him, you'd say,
yeah, we can sign him againnext year because he gets to come home.
You're exactly right. The Woodlands guybe fun for him, chance to

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go win another title here as goodas anybody in the American League over the
next couple of years. So I'mjust throwing that out there. If you're
gonna do it, it'd be that. I just don't know if first base
is going to be it. Idon't even know if the Cardinals is gonna
want to part with one of theircorner out into it because they're starting,
they're they're they're playing better baseball,but starter and reliever Ross and I think
that's the way it's going to go. And I think they can pull off
both, but you're gonna give upsomething that you're gonna say, oh,

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okay, that's good or what thatstings, But it's not gonna be Joey
Loperfito okay, and then still wantyour crystal ball out. Okay, So
we have that for the trade deadline. First half MVP for the Astros,
I probably would go with Renel Blanco. Maybe you want to go with jord
On or al Tuova one of thoseguys. I would probably go al Tuove.

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But if every day player but tome has said it on this what
Blanco's done, considering the circumstances andwhere he is not just performance but everything
grouped in where the pressures falling onhim, and he's been consistently good other
than maybe one semi clunker. Theguy's been it to me. If he's
not, and I'll tell you whatyou can say what you want. Scott
needs to be in the conversation becauseof what he's done and logging innings in

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there. But for everyday player,the yord On al two a thing.
It's arguable, but to me ateam MVP, if I was on that
team voting, Blanco would be theguy. And second half MVP. I'm
asking you who's it going to be. Second half MVP is going to be
the DH. I think it hasto to where he thrusts his name into

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Now it's gonna when I say thrusthis name the MVP, might as well
give it to Otawi. And you'rein Judge now, right, But you
know, think about look at Judge'snumbers are toys, but judges numbers.
He's had a season in a halfseason most runs eighty plus what eighties plus
RBIs and he's hitting over three hundred. It's like quit now, and you've

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had a good that's a pay raiseseason, and he's got seventy plus games
to go. But Jordon's got theability for a month to thrust himself into
that conversation. Okay, I thinkit has to be him. If he
plays average, I'll tell you this. If he plays average baseball, they're
not making the playoffs. Take thatto the bank. Okay. If he
plays MVP baseball, they're winning thedivision. All right, Sean has Jordon

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thrusting in the second half. Wewill discuss more all about the lower half
for us rather trust all right,we gotta take a break here. It's
a Sean Salisbury Show. I'm Rossvir real. You want to get in
what happens at the deadline? Whois your second half? MVP seven one
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ninety live out there for the SeawanSalisbury Show continued. Is it is it

(01:04:10):
that Jerry World or is it somewhereelse? Is it? I don't know.
Is it a convention center down andI think so Convention Center downtown Dallas,
I would imagine, I'll take yourword for it. I'm not sure,
but they normally have it what inAlabama. But this year, because
Texas and Oklahoma being added to theSEC, the Media Days are in Dallas

(01:04:31):
this year and we have Chris Gordyand Dan Matthews out there and they were
gracious enough they will be bringing usMarty Smith coming up at eight fifteen at
the Omni Hotel, Dallas, Texas. Yeah, that's a that's a big,
big spread out there, and it'scentrally located. So good on them.
And Marty does a great job notonly covering sports and all sports,

(01:04:51):
but great storyteller. He's an author, does Marty and McGhee radio, and
he's huge in the SEC and coveringall this, and he's got a his
uh book Sideline CEO was out lastyear and you can still get that.
So he does a lot of things, and he's beloved and he's got that
good old Southern charm. So we'llget Marty smith on give us a little
feel for what he thinks about thesea of the Texas Longhorns in the SEC.

(01:05:15):
Now, and well we'll see what'shappened. I think the Nick Saban,
I think he predicted he went kindof feels chalkish. I guess Georgia
Texas and the SEC championship this game, we'll see this year. We'll see
what what Texas can do in theirfirst year in the SEC. You think
Alabama fans to see down to Sabingswith Alabama's fans expect him to have to
pick Alabama every year when he should. Yeah, but the truth is right,

(01:05:42):
he's being honest. The truth isAlabama's not now mill Rose back,
and they're a good team and calethey're they're they're Kaylyn de Boor is a
very Caitlyn. Yeah, Kaylyn deBoor. He is a very good coach
and he's got I mean, whathe did at University of Washington with that
football program in the offense of line. So and he's not exactly taken over
a bunch of hacks. That waspretty good, all right, but the

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two best teams more than and losingJade and Daniels at LSU. And now
they're a new quarter with Garrett Usbayerthere. But right now you get your
Heisman Trophy candidate starting quarterback here backat Texas with Quinn yours and Carson Beck
and Georgia are really good and theyshould be the favorite and quite frankly,

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and they will be playing in Austin. That's exactly right. And then you
look at just overall picture Ohio Statein a Big ten. This may be
Ohio State's most talented team in thelast decade. Dude, they are frigging
If they don't beat Michigan days out, they may be looking. He may
be going to Jason Day and playinggolf with him in pro ams if he's

(01:06:45):
not careful. And think about thatTendor eleven he wins a year and you're
under pressure. So but in theSEC so Marty Smith can cover that,
and is there you know a longshot of dark horse. I'm gonna tell
you you keep an eye on olemisso they know they know they know how
to play it. In Jackson dartBack, I think ole Miss has got
a chance to be pretty damn good. And tennessee their quarterback. Now we're

(01:07:10):
gonna watch Nico and see what he'sgot to bring a lot of good quarterbacks
in the SEC. Man loaded.Yeah, I was pulling up Brian Day
never lost more than two games ina year at Ohio State thirteen and one,
seven and one in COVID year.Then he's gone eleven and two three
straight years. It's fifty six andeight and on the hot seat. Well,
now that Harball's gone, it canbeat Michigan. And if he doesn't,

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then it's gonna get awfully testy inColumbus. Dude, I'm just telling
you I was I would think so. So we'll hear some from more from
Marty Smith coming up in in aboutthirty minutes. I'm sorry, he's seen
to be forty five minutes here onSports Talk A seven ninety and The Shawn
Salisbury Show. You want to getin seven one three two one two five

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seven ninety is the phone number sevenone three two one two five seven ninety
and since we're on the college footballthing, Sean, There's been a lot
of talk about Florida State and thempossibly joining the SEC or the Big Ten,
but now reports coming out that itdoesn't seem likely for either of them,
and especially Florida State apparently being disruptivewith the SEC and still trying to

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get out of their contract with theACC. Do you feel like conference alignment
with this Texas and Oklahoma move tothe SEC. Is the dust settling a
little bit or is it going tobe constantly churning in motion. I think
we're almost at the end of it, meaning all of the stage. Yeah,
I do think you're going to seemore movement in the ACC, though

(01:08:42):
I don't think we're done. Ithink they gotta do something. Yeah,
and Clemson, Florida State obviously otherprize catches there, but I don't think.
I mean, we can't keep playingshuffle board here or keep moving things
around shuffling car. You just can'twhere they gonna go to. You're gonna
just keep this ain't the transfer portalfor teams, although it is agreed so
we can might as well. Hey, I was in this for a few
years. We're just going to getout we're gonna jump to another conference because

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we want to. You know,we're down to power for them money.
Yeah, that's exactly right. SoI think that part of it's done.
I don't think how you do theplayoffs done being adjusted. Even though we
got twelve teams, bat twelve,you go sixteen max for me, now
should be them. I agree.That's why I'm saying that's a super max
I guess contract for me. Butit's twelve's the twentieth team in football doesn't

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is not is not rolling through andwinning a championship. There's just not.
Just like no offense to the sixteenor the fourteen seed. You win in
six of them against those guys,rosters are just too deep for you to
do it. You'll get an upsetor two. You know. Listen,
Appalachian State ain't winning a national titlein college football. You're just not.
It's not going to happen. Soand but respect to Apple Watch State to
get one they ain't get They're notgetting four of them, right, Just

(01:09:51):
the attrition of the physicality that goeson with football and have to play back
to back. But I think we'rethe conference realignment stuff. Other than a
few moves. The biggest moves,if there's going to be any more,
will be made out of the ACCin the next couple in Florida State and
all the top of the list.Then you kind of wonder, what's going
to happen North Carolina that would beThat would probably be third on the list.

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Yes, agreed, agreed, Butthose two at the top because they'll
require a lot of money. They'regreat recruiting bases, and they win and
everybody knows that. You know,you want to go get it. So
I don't know where to end up. But those two there will be would
be the the prized catches now.And once that happens, that college football
all the other stuff dealing with niland transfer portal and and and you know,

(01:10:38):
all the things that go with thecollectives and that mixing and match and
fine, but moving conferences, thetransfer portal that we've seen moving conferences will
start to simmer down a little bit. It's a it's a headache, man.
You know. One of the thingspeople say, for example, the
NBA, that free agency is morefun than the games, like the off
season. College football, to me, the off season is a giant headache.

(01:11:00):
But when it's Saturday and it's MichiganOhio State, or it's Texas in
Oklahoma. The the the change inmy feelings and my attitudes towards college football
on a Saturday as opposed to therest of the year, when it's when
it's off season. It's it's nightand day. It's complete. It's like
taking a good gummy. You knowwhat I'm saying. It's like September one,

(01:11:20):
give me the give me the relaxedgummy, and I say, I'm
okay, I'm home. Yeah,there's there's no better calming effect or exciting
effect for you. Don't go putit in the extremes. All that and
il the guy transferred trans you can'teven follow. Oh my god, no,

(01:11:40):
I have no he was on theroster year to year in Texas anymore,
this guy and TV rights and thisand how many games? What are
we doing? And you're like pissed, piss piss, And all of a
sudden late August and she's going okay. Then that first week he said,
Joe, I love you college.And I wake up at five thirty on
Saturday. I started getting stuff readyoutside because like Sewan, it's just game

(01:12:00):
day. I don't care I lovecollege game day and my Saturdays always start
and that's the way I started them. So I'm with you, pain in
the ass in the off season,but nothing better that settles you as okay,
it's here, I'm with you.One. You get one hundred thousand
people screaming in the stands and it'slike, I'm here, I'm here for
I'm here. And the whole tailgating, all the talk, every single thing
about it, the way you eatat home, all of it, no

(01:12:21):
question about it, and day drinkingat a premium well of four. That's
that's what goes without saying, nodoubt. All right, time for another
break here on The Sean Salisbury Show. The segments just keep flying by.
You want to get in. Wesee some of you on hold. We'll
get to you at seven one threetwo one two five seven ninety seven one
three, two, one two fiveseven ninety We still got a ton of

(01:12:42):
stuff to get to. We alsohave Marty Smith ESPN coming up at eight
fifteen here on the Seawan Salisbury Show. The Jean Salisbury Show continues, Yeah
what I've heard? Yeah, wellwhat about them? Dem are? All
right? Sean Salisbury Show back hereon a Wednesday, ros virial feeling in

(01:13:02):
Today and tomorrow. We got hMarty Smith ESPN coming up. We're also
going to be talking some Texans ateight o'clock. We got you at seven
one three two one two five sevenninety if you would like to get in
seven one three two one two fiveseven ninety and let's go to Ronnie,
who's been holding patiently. What's upRonnie? Thank you? Warning guys,

(01:13:26):
I am. I still think theresolution to our pitching dilemma is to increase
the number of pitches the starters areencouraged to throw. Now, obviously,
if they're struggling and they're having alot of trouble and they're walking guys,
you don't push it. But ninetypitches is not enough. I want one

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hundred and five to one hundred andten and five or ten or fifteen extra
pitches every five days should not killthese guys. If it does it,
I don't deserve to be playing anyway. You know, Blanco's thirty years old.
He's a grown man. So isFrombert and Eric, not Rri Getty

(01:14:10):
Brown. He's not a kid.He's twenty four to twenty five. He's
not eighteen. So you pitch thestarters a little more. If you give
him each of the starters one extrainning in their starts, you only have
to use two relievers instead of threeevery day, and that'll help save the
guys, you know, in thebullpen. And if you're going to get

(01:14:32):
two extra guys, what two picturesare going to be leaving? Are we
going to get rid of Dubin andthe young kid loss or what's what's his
name? Who are we getting ridof if we've got to bring two extra
pictures in here? Yeah? Andalso with gold Schmidt. With gold Schmidt,
I wanted him when they traded himfrom Arizona to Saint Louis, but

(01:14:54):
I don't want him now and Idon't want another a break. I get
it, and I don't think youwould get that. I think I think
Goldschmid's a little more productive, butI don't think there's much talk about it.
But if you were going to that'san easier get I would think than
a guy like Guerreo or or PeteAlonso. I don't think first Baseman is
going to be somebody you're not findinga nine hundred ops go at the trade

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deadline. That's that you can getRonnie, I'm curious. I love your
thinking because I'm a little old schoolon come on and build them up instead
of just expect them to go fourinnings or five innings. But we're at
a time. Do you really doyou deep down think that the philosophy that
you're talking about about nineties not enough? Give them one hundred and five pitches.
Do you think that baseball is evergoing to get back to that?

(01:15:36):
And especially now, do you thinkthat's the way the Astros are thinking or
opposite of what you're thinking. Justgive me to five and then we'll get
to that bullpen. It feels tome like you'd like to push them,
but I'm not sure that they're gonnaget You're gonna get out of it what
you want. But I am withyou. I would love that. I
just don't know if you're gonna getit, especially with these injuries. Well,

(01:15:58):
I think you're right. Although ifsomebody does you know, baseball,
and you see it in football too, somebody does something that works, everybody
else follows off my cheap Oh yeah, you know so. I think in
fact, if they don't Sean's andI think a trend that I would like
to see to save you and theguys who are on for four hours,

(01:16:20):
you divide four hours by three twosix innings is not a it's two thirds
of a game. It's not aquality start. I don't care what they
do. So you should only haveto work one hour and forty minutes each
day. I kind of like yourstyle and get paid for four right now
we're talking about I like your style. Brother. You can hit the golf
course afterwards, you know, andor maybe you can do part of your

(01:16:43):
show from the golf course and giveus a play by play on your game.
Now you're preaching my language, brother. I kind of like what you're
going to count on it. Iwould I don't know if I could pull
that one off, but that'd begreat. Rod to the Boston Yeah,
see what they say, Rodi.Thanks. It's just the nature of the
game these days. And Renal Blancois a thirty year old, but you
all and Hunter Brown is young aswell. But Hunter Brown was not as

(01:17:04):
effective as he was in the secondhalf of the season. Is last year,
right, you have to worry.He had one hundred and fifty five
innings last year. Renel Blanco's notpitched more than one hundred and twenty three
innings. Ever as a professional andover he's over a hundred. I think
he's like one hundred three innings,or if not more than that, he
might be at one hundred and ninenow at this point with another start.
I do love Ronnie's thinking, butI think the specialization of it. I

(01:17:25):
think just you get to a pointwhere it's like, it's like a running
back who when he goes two gamesin a row and doesn't rush for one
hundred yards. When he hits thirtyand he's still maybe in the prime of
his career, you know, weautomatically think, yes, he's done.
And I think when it comes topitching up, he's at ninety five pitch.
I can't push him to one hundredand five. And I've always thought,
like, Ronnie, you're telling meten extra pitches and then getting five

(01:17:48):
more days is going to ruin aguy's arm. And then there's part of
me that's always said, I he'sgonna ruin a guy's arm. What the
hell are we tok ten extra pitcher'sjust trying to take off the They have
a lot of They have sports scientiststo get paid way more than I do
to figure all the things out andtrainers and all that type of stuff agreed

(01:18:08):
that. You know, when youget a lease, it's fifteen thousand miles
a year, you're allowed ten thousandmiles exactly allowed. And we hit that
threshold and we are slowing you down. I get Ronnie thinking that. I
don't think major League Baseball and theAstles are going to think like that.
I think they're going to think,yes, well, my my solution.
Pitch them even more more. Listen, pitcher, more, build it up

(01:18:30):
and strengthen it. That's exactly right. I like it. It's going to
happen. It's not going to happenspecialization. And I don't think we're ever
going back, No, I don't. Sadly, I don't think so.
And I mean if you go backin the old days and you look through
the numbers, like fourth time throughthe lineup, guys, pitchers were getting
crushed back in the day. Yougive these professional hitters, you give them
a third you know, the numbersalways drop it for the most part,

(01:18:51):
most the third time to the lineup. The fourth time through the lineup,
guys are good. The numbers backin the day through the roof, like
Babe Ruth was basically, I meanop hitting like five hundred to the third
time, the fourteenth time to thelineup, it becomes you're playing. It
feels like you're playing against single Abaseball players. At that point you give
Ted Williams four looks at a picture. Yeah, I don't want to give

(01:19:12):
him one look exactly that exact gonnago. Well, that's right, all
right. We got to take atop of the hour break here on the
Sewn Salisbury Show. My name isRoss v Real, filling in for Brian.
Thelema. Shan Salisbury is here.Of course, we got Marty Smith
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elite car buying experience. Okay,let's do this Sewan Salisbury, The usc
Truth, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury,Ryan Lima, go Lobo. This is

(01:22:17):
the Sean Salisbury Show. I'm sorrywhen you say on my bad, I
gotta wear that and I'm not gonnablame anybody else. Yeah, I'm sorry.
You know what a guy does thislike when he throws a ball like
fourteen feet out of bound right hischest. That's bad. I wasn't gonna
blame anybody else. Yeah, exactly. Of course it was your fault.

(01:22:40):
We just saw my bad. Igot didn't they point to you, don't?
Yeah? Or I had somebody gotyou. I was trying to meet
up with somebody over the weekend andthey were texting me. I was running
late. Man, that's my fault. I was like, well, I
was gonna blame anybody else. I'mgonna blame you. Yeah, we understand.
That's on you. That's on me. Tripoli is here as well,
Sean Salisbury. We got Mark Smithof ESPN coming up at eight point fifteen

(01:23:01):
from SEC Media Days, talking somecollege football and all that good stuff you
can get in. Phone lines openat seven one three, two, one
two five seven ninety seven to oneto three two one two five seven ninety.
So I was scanning the wires,as they say, Sean, and
I was looking at a report fromBill Barnwell, not necessarily a report,
but just talking about potential super Bowlcontender for the upcoming season. He puts

(01:23:27):
the Houston Texans as one of thepossible sleeper contenders, talking about CJ.
Stroud of course emerging as the superstarthe offseason that the Texans had, and
so we've had CJ. Stroud isall over the place this offseason. I
mean he's with Micah Parsons in Japan. They're sumo wrestling people. Yes,

(01:23:47):
they're the CJ. Stroud Like it'sgoing viral for waiting tables and all this
type of stuff. So CJ.Stroud and the Texans in this upcoming season
a little bit over exposed, andexpectations may be getting a little bit high
or right where they need to be. I think they're. I think they're.

(01:24:09):
When I say over hype people aregonn think you don't think they're any
good? No, no, no. If the hype matches the way,
if if the hype matches the performancethey'll be playing in February. You get
my point where it's like, ohmy gosh, it's almost starting to feel
like if it did, the expectationswere building. Are if they don't make
the Super Bowl or at least thechampionsment, what a disappointment. Yeah,

(01:24:30):
and then seven wins better than theyear before and a coach that gets it
and a quarterback. Listen, whenyou got that guy, think about anywhere
when Lamar hit the scene after that, you know when he took it over
or yes, the way Josh Allenhit the ground run and even though it
took him a fewyears, Mahomes inhis second year. Whenever it's a quarterback
that does it, it could befifteen other players. The quarterback that's like,
oh the franchise has changed, andfair enough, and c J.

(01:24:54):
Stroud played, I don't want tostay out of his mind because I think
he's capable of doing They're right,this is just we just saw something special
and different, and when we seeit from the quarterback position, we overhype
at all. And Bruce Matthews saidhe made a great point. He said,
when it is the quarterback, it'salways going to be over hyped.

(01:25:15):
It is. So now, doesthat mean they can't live up to expectations?
Yes? So are they overhyped.Yes, are they in over their
head? No, that that's thepoint. I don't think now young we're
okay, We're going to find out. I think the experience from Damico Ryans
and watching these things happen in SanFrancisco. I think with a quarterback who
I don't want to say anybody's immuneto us, that he's that he's you

(01:25:36):
know, can't go through a sophomoreslop. He'll have moments, but he
didn't even know how to play asa rookie. And I mean that affectionate.
You get my point. He's sofish for the metal stuff. He
Bob didn't know how to call playsfor him. He said he had they
have to learn each other and allthe slow the first time he's called plays,
Yeah, first time the head coachhas been a head coach. Think
about the quantum leap. So arethe expectations have been unruly? Yeah?

(01:25:58):
They're not the Kansas City Chiefs yet. But if the Chiefs though two picks,
got a chance to beat them?Is my point. So you know,
normally with a team that's a threewin team, quantum leaps is double
your victories. They they got theten over three. Yes, so of
course there and then when the quarterbacksso good and everybody started the front office
and they've had a great offseason andDanil Hunter and Stefan Diggs and Joe Mixon,

(01:26:24):
I mean, yes, the expectationsshould be higher. Uh, when
we're talking February, I just say, let's temper them a little bit.
I want your building in the building. I want them to think that.
And I think they are. Ithink they are too, no doubt.
And you've got the personnel that isthis is this rosters is even going into

(01:26:44):
the season much better than last year. The continuity on the offensive line,
more physicality up front on both sides. Yeah, and CJ will take another
step. I don't know what thatmeans statistically, but I know as a
football player seeing coverages and understanding howguys are trying to defend you, and
it'll be tougher schedules. But alsois that people will look at it and
say, Okay, this isn't arookie on the scene. We're going to
see how he goes. We knowwhat kind of player he is. I

(01:27:06):
say, he's the best twelve totwenty two yard that intermediate throw. There's
nobody better in the league. AndI'm talking about the guy in Kansas City.
I'm talking about the guy in Buffalo. He's accurate and if there's nobody
better in the league at that andthe guy started fifteen regular season games and
a playoff game. So yes,the expectations are ridiculous and the hype ridiculous,

(01:27:28):
but the expectations of building they shouldbe. I mean, I believe
their expectations were a lot higher thanwe put it on them last year,
hence why they were able to gowin ten games and start off zero to
two, right right, And soyeah, I do. But for me,
if they lose the first playoff gameand don't win the division, it'll
be a disappointment. But do Ihave them destined when we make our picks,

(01:27:48):
Will I have them in the SuperBowl? The questions not yet.
I do believe they're heading in agreat direction, though, and building it
the way a young team that hasthese expectations should. And that's the interesting
thing to me. As you mentionedthat CJ. Stroud hitting the scene like
he is, He's not flying underthe radar for anyone. But then you
also have to wonder as far assome guys can can splash in their first

(01:28:13):
couple of years. But then whatyou need to see from there is the
continued growth right ross. A lotof times, I'm most athletes. I
know now pressure can get to guysand can't into some play better than others.
But for me, it's not alot of times dealing with fair because
a lot of guys want to fightback. You know, our reactive athletes
to react. So you hit mein the mouth, I'm gonna hit back.
It's dealing with success. And sothey had great success. Everybody's telling

(01:28:38):
them how great they are. Thekey for them in that building is to
act like a metally, to approachit like you did the three the three
wins, the team that we're gettingto go from three to ten wins,
that we still got business. We'renot anywhere near where we're going to be.
We're going to work. I don'thave a problem with guys making money
in the offseason, going and doingall the fun things and getting all the
h and enjoying their success. Thekey is don't let the banquet disrupt your

(01:29:00):
work. The next morning we say, oh I can do we were better
than last year. I can sleepin at you know what I'm saying.
I know that those are small things. It'll be the small things that deteriorate
a team, not the big things. So those little things were it's great
to get enjoy the fruits of yourlabor, but you don't complain you're not
done that you're not done yet,so you're just getting started. So for
me, that's what they got todo and make sure that quite frankly,

(01:29:23):
you don't believe the bad things anybodysaid about you when you had three wins,
and don't believe the great things they'retelling you how great you are.
You still got to go to workand don't forget your day job. I
definitely feel yeah, maturity tests comingup this season line under the Radar schedule
going to be a little bit moretough. Okay, we do have to
take a break a little bit earlybecause we have Marty Smith ESPN coming up
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Apparel. The Shawn Salisbury Show continues. And no, now you know Sideline
CEO, which I'm gonna ask afew questions about that as well. He

(01:31:31):
joins us. Now ESPN's Marty Smith. Marty, welcome in, man.
What a pleasure it is to haveyou on, sir. Not every day
I'm on air with legends. Brother. I hope you guys are will We're
doing very well, man. Weappreciate you joining us, and we're gonna
get to what Southwest is doing forthe SEC. I know Europe Media days.
We'll get to that in a second. Let me just ask you something

(01:31:55):
I've never been able to talk toyou about what's the best part of your
job. I would say, firstof all, the relationships, and you
know that, like you know howthat works when you're part of a team
that really accentuates each other's talents.But aside from that wonderful camaraderie, I
would say it's the opportunity to havetime, which is our most precious resource,

(01:32:20):
To have time with iconic sports figuresand open them up and humanize them
in a way that maybe they haven'tbeen seen before. And that is just
the most fulfilling thing for me inmy job. And regardless of the sport,

(01:32:41):
whether that's here in college football,which we're doing at SEC media Days,
whether that's the golf majors with thegreat players in both leagues, the
Triple Crown horse racing, all theauto racing I do, it's just such
an amazing blessing. I love thatopportunity. Yeah, Marty, you get
to cover some Marty Smith ESPN anda bunch of other stuff. But whether
it's the majors at golf and you'regetting to talk to those guys and cover

(01:33:03):
them, or you mentioned NASCAR,all this college college sports, college football,
it's a great gig and your authoras well, Sideline CEO, and
you know, and looking at yourbook and kind of going through all the
people you talk to and when yougo through the process of this, is
there something you found out from thesecoaches or maybe it's something they all have
in common, or the people youtalk to winners, people who excel.

(01:33:28):
Is there a parallel towards their successin all of them, or did you
find out something maybe we don't knowabout them that you're like, damn,
that's why they win. Well,going back to Tom, I'm just so
grateful to all of them forgiving methat time. I interviewed twenty championship coaches.
They have fifty five championships at thecollegiate or professional level between them,

(01:33:50):
and it's a who's who. Imean, it's Savingbo Sweeney, Kirby,
Smart Doc Rivers, Mac Brown,Roy Williams, Jacque Caliperry. It's really
who's who of championship leadership minds.And I broke the as I was making
my way through the reporting of it, I realized there were common threads and

(01:34:11):
a light bulb went off that Ihad to break the book up into those
common threads. So I broke itup into eight pillars, which were basically,
first, what is leadership? Andas you know, leadership is not
power. Leadership is influenced. Canyou bring people with you, especially when
they don't believe they're capable themselves?And then it's what are those pillars?

(01:34:31):
Trust, communication, and listening,delegation, Crisis management is a very big
one, self evaluation, evolution,all of those pillars. And then I
interviewed all these folks and broke thebook into those eight pillars in almost an
oral history format, as if you'rereading it where you're all in the room
together and it's done really well,and like, I'm a huge saving guy.

(01:34:55):
I was just talking to him inour green It's super weird to be
his coworker. That's a different deal. But I was talking to him in
the green room and he's such astudent. He said to me, He's
like, how many interviews you gottoday? I said, I don't know
ten. I think. He goes, how do you do that? What
is the process of how you dothat? And really it's fundamental, it's

(01:35:17):
the human condition. Shut your mouth, open your ears, let that person
share his or her truth, andthen follow up on that truth, and
it's just been so fun to seehow that book has resonated. Man,
it's I knew that it would kindof move some people in certain ways,
people that are leadership geeks like Iam, But my goodness, I didn't

(01:35:39):
expect some of the companies, corporationsteams to gravitate to it the way they
have. I'm incredibly thankful. Leadership'severything great. That's Sideline CEO. And
Marty Smith joins the CESPN SEC network. He covers all these big events and
he said SEC media days you mentionedNick Saban Canon de Bore taking over for
him and did a hell of ajob at Washington already with that leadership,

(01:36:00):
and you're feeling, well, you'refilling the shoes of the best college coach
ever in my opinion, and maybethe best coach. He's been phenomenal.
How how big is that gap?How big are those shoes that Kaylin's going
to have? And what are theexpectations at Alabama? Now, I don't
you know, you always hear theold adage you don't want to be the
guy who follows the guy right becausethe expectations and the body of work are

(01:36:24):
so impossible to attain That how doyou define success? Well, I give
Kaylen a lot of credit. Andhere's why he did not come into Alabama
and try to emulate coach Saban's cultureor emulate the day to day operational procedures
within the Alabama building. He camein and did it his way, which

(01:36:45):
is way the hell more relaxed.And if you talk to the support staff
and you tell that, they almostthey've had to sort of relearn how to
operate because it is such a differentculture. And Kaylin has done nothing but
win. Every where he's gone,He's won, and I expect him to
win at Alabama. He's I mean, the cupboard is very full for him
in terms of talent on the field. He's brought in a lot of his

(01:37:10):
guys operationally and in terms of thex's and o's of the game. But
the league is so impossible. Whenyou're talking about Kirby Smart, what he's
built at Georgia Sark, what he'sbuilt at Texas Lane, Kiffin's built a
tremendous program at Ole Miss, whatcoach Drink is doing at Missoo, what

(01:37:33):
Hypel's doing at Tennessee. There's justno relent. It's a relentless gauntlet,
and so I did see that Vegas, which is right a lot. They
feel like Alabama's over under I thinkis eight and a half right now,
and that's the lowest that's been ina really long time, which is natural.
That's understandable because you're replacing Nick Saban. I don't think there is any

(01:37:59):
replacement. But if you wanted aguy who could come in and continue the
success, I think they got agreat one in Kaylen. ESPN's Marty Smith
joins us for a few more minuteshere on Sports Talk seven to ninety from
SEC Media Days down in Dallas.Marty, you mentioned Steve Sarkisian in Texas.
Are they ready for this jump inthe SEC? By all means yeah.

(01:38:19):
They beat Bama at home last year. Yep, So yes, they
are absolutely ready for this jump.They have tremendous depth. They have his
leader. Going back to leadership,One thing that I admire so much about
Steve is the transparency and the vulnerabilitywith which he leads these young men and
this program. They gravitate to thatshong, they gravitate to reel these days,

(01:38:45):
whether it's a coach, an athlete, an industry leader, they can
tell bs instantly. And so whenyou're recruiting these young people or trying to
recruit them through the portal, andthey meet you and you have that ability
to meet them on their level andtell your true story, they gravitate to
it, and it's it's a magneticforce. And and Sark has that.

(01:39:09):
Plus he's an offensive mastermind, andso I think they're gonna be really good
for me. It's everybody's happy rightnow in mid July, and everybody's optimistic
in mid July. And I knowthat on October nineteenth in Austin, Texas,
the Horns are gonna host the Dogs. They're they're playing head to head
in the regular season. But Istill feel like, right now, to

(01:39:30):
me, those are the two programsthat we might see in Atlanta when do
we get there in December, Nodoubt about it, Marty. You've seen
transformation happen, as we all have. But you're right in the thick of
it in college football. Is theNIL transfer portal collective gonna good guy him
here, you got me? Oh, I got you? Jumps are yeah,
no problem, No problem. Isthe the the NI You've seen the

(01:39:53):
transformation. How your feelings on NILcollective transfer portal. Are we in a
danger area to room college football?Or can we make this really really good
interesting question that I would have hada different answer to yesterday morning, had
we spoken. I am forty eightyears old. I grew up going across

(01:40:15):
the mountain in Appalachia with my daddyto watch Virginia Tech play football under Frank
Beamer. And those are the sweetestmemories I have with my father. That
college football is extinct, now,that doesn't mean that there isn't still generational
adoration for the game. There is. The game is very healthy in that
regard. I think that the spiritof the fan bases and what Saturday afternoons

(01:40:41):
and evenings is is still very verystrong, maybe stronger than ever. But
I do have concern that college footballand college athletics in general has become transactional.
It is not I'm going to theUniversity of Georgia, Texas, Alabama,
you name it, Tennessee for mylove for the letter or my love

(01:41:05):
for the state. It is howmuch you're gonna pay me in so many
instances. And that's that's interesting tome. And now there's all this litigation
where you know they're obviously they've they'veagreed that they're gonna play the pay the
players a revenue share at the playerlevel, and so that is quite a

(01:41:28):
substantial and seismic shift. And Iwith with the leed the very there there
are no rules. It's the bigproblem. If we're gonna save this thing
and keep it where we all loveit, there has to be some governance,
over all over arching governance, becausenow it's a state by state governance

(01:41:48):
and that's just it's just not right. Marty tell us you, I mean
your involvement with Southwest, A bignew sponsorship happened with the SEC. Your
involvement with Southwest Airlines and what Southwestis gonna do with the SEC. I
know there's some great things for fansas well. What's going on with Southwest
and the SEC. Yeah, Iappreciate you asking. They are the new
official airline of the SEC, andthat's great for the league, and honestly,

(01:42:11):
it's great for Southwest because of theloyalty and the passion that SEC fans
have. It's really the brand ofthe conference. What other conference do you
see fans if their team lost,they'll they'll cheer for the other SEC team
who's still alive like that. That'sthat there's only one conference that does that
you and you're not gonna see Michiganfans cheering for Ohio State. I can
promise you that, right, Andso it's cool. The Southwest is on

(01:42:34):
board. They've added a bunch offlights to huge SEC centric matchups this year
in those markets, starting with Weekone at the Vegas Kickoff, that usc
LSU game, Bama at Wisconsin inweek three, Tennessee at Oklahoma Week four,
Georgia at Texas week eight. They'veadded flights in order for fans to
have a more seamless way to getto those markets for those games. And

(01:42:57):
they're also doing a really cool sweepstakesSouthwest SEC sweepstakes dot com. Go there,
you'll have the opportunity to win anopportunity to go to the SEC Championship.
It's just cool. It's great thatthey're immersing invested, great for the
conference and really good for them too. Okay, let's get to the real
stuff. I'm an obsessive, compulsivegolfing nut job, you know, all

(01:43:18):
day, every day, and whois everybody playing for second place? I
Scheffler's right at the British at Royalat Royal Troon or you got a surprise
for me. What Scotty is doingis just it's just beyond unbelievable. If

(01:43:39):
he were to win, he wouldjoin Arnold Palmer, Jack, Nicholas Tiger
Woods and Ben Hogan among a varyesteemed group of players to win. I
got to remember the the tournaments,the masters, right players, I forget

(01:44:00):
the exact tournaments. But he'll join. I mean, he's already joined all
these esteemed lists of of of eliteplayers. Uh. I really feel strong
about Ludwig Oberg. I know thathe kind of fell apart late last week
at the Scottish Awesome to see BobbyMcIntyre win that thing the way he did,
it was just the game is sohealthy, despite what a lot of

(01:44:26):
people feel in a certain narrative,Bryce into Shamba, the emotion he showed
winning the US Open, Xander winningat Valhalla, I just feel like it's
really healthy and going in. Ifyou if you're not picking Scotty, something's
probably wrong with you. But Ijust really feel like Ludwig might might be
the guy. Yeah, if youcould ever emulate a swing in tempo,
Oldberg's the guy you want to doit. That guy is and just so

(01:44:51):
even Keel, Yes, he's gonnahe doesn't ride emotional waves, and it's
fun to watch. He's gonna wina lot of them. Marty. You'll
see Marty Smith on every platform onthe planet, not only with ESPN and
Marty and McGee and doing all hisfeatures. And he's an author again,
Sideline CEO, you got to goread it. Great on leadership and always

(01:45:12):
entertaining. And I know you're belovedeverywhere across this country and the South loves
you as well. And my man, I'm telling you this first time I've
been able to interview your you.I've been a fan for a long time
and honored to have you on andI'm watching everything you do, brother,
So I appreciate you taking time.I appreciate your kind spirit, brother,
And likewise, I've been a fanfor a very long time. And what
an honor you get to spend timewith you. And I imagine in Houston

(01:45:36):
it's probably one hundred and three alreadyout it's waiting about eighty five percent of
aubidity. I appreciate you a beerand around of golf at some point,
my treat. I'd love that,man. I look forward to it,
look forward to it. Thanks Marty, I appreciate you. You too.
That's Marty Smith, big fan.His reverence for all of it, but
his interest and passion for all ofit South maybe unparalleled. The guy knows

(01:46:01):
it and it's got great insight.And I Kim, I'm a leadership honk
too. I get books. Iread them all the time. I try
to live up to it. I'mnot sure I can, but I sure
read them. It's Marty Smith,sideline CEO. It's a it's a hell
of a read as well. SportsTalk seven ninety with Ross and Tripoli.
I'm Sean. We'll come back anddiscuss and we've got a lot of Texans
talk here. In the next ninetyminutes. Astros will open their home away

(01:46:21):
series coming out of the All Starbreak on Friday in Seattle. A chance
to come back home when this serieswell after this series, a chance to
be in first place one game outas the second half of the season about
to get underway. Thanks again toMarty Smith, great stuff. Sports Talk
seven ninety for the Sean Salisbury Showcontinued. You just all of a sudden

(01:46:43):
kind of settle in, Like trustright, Homie, it's a South yes,
trust, no doubt about it.But I've been a fan of his
forever. That wasn't hyperble and whenI say it, and you know sometimes
you know, not a fanboy.But I love just the way he goes
about his job and he gets tocover such great events and I know his
ash and love Ford. I'm tellingyou that I'm a I am a like
a fanatic over like reading and anytimehe can learn something from these guys who

(01:47:08):
tell you just one little hint onhow to lead better, I'm a big
fan of it. And I thinkthe leadership part of the Texans that we
talk about is at at the quarterbackposition, at the general manager has done
a great job. And at thehead coaching position. Uh, we see
it with the Astros. Leadership hasbeen a big part of winning. And
that book, Sideline CEO will getyou in that. Yeah, I agree.
Now that hand has taken over.They got I mean Nick Casario.

(01:47:30):
But exactly so we were talking aboutin a couple of segments, has got
him focused, doesn't It's been agood watch man. You're talking a couple
of segments. We were talking aboutc J. Stroud and you know it
is he doing too much in theoffseason and he's going all these trips,
he's doing waiter stuff. He's inthe forefront, he's in the limelight.

(01:47:53):
Can he we make sure there's nocomplacency and he goes and makes that next
level. I think if he doesn't, it won't be the fault of Demico
Ryans. I think they get.I mean, like you said, the
leadership that you have in place withthis team, it's the right guys,
yep, one hundred percent agree RossAnd you know when people we want people
to have success, and then whenthey have success, were like we as

(01:48:15):
fans, don't go out and enjoyit. Go enjoy it. The key
here maybe I would enjoy it ifyou can't. Right here. The crazy
thing about it is it's being ableto look at Peyton manning success of doing
all those commercials in the offseason,but compartmentali is he never allowed those things.
He knew his day job. Henever allowed those things to get in
the way of preparing for what madehim great and understanding at ten o'clock at

(01:48:39):
night when somebody's out doing something onWednesday, Peyton Manning's making sure he understands
that defensive coordinators thought process and whatpeople are doing and never let that waiver.
And I talked about dealing with success. It is the ability and I
think this we don't talk about thisenough. Ross. It's like when a
high school kid goes to college.What's the biggest problem time management? You
don't have anybody telling you, wakingyou that that's part of time management.

(01:49:02):
You got to manage the host attime. How much time you gonna spend
with them? Right? Yeah?Are they writing your paper for you?
Right? No? But the truthis is the manager. It's the same
thing at this level. You're you'regrown ass man now. And the ability
to say I'd love to go,I'll go from five to six. I
still got to And then I wentout and tied one on, had fun

(01:49:23):
at a banquet that that that Jimthat you've been going to, you went
to when you were three and tenor three and thirteen or whatever, three
twelve, and we're let's saying wehave seven teams three thirteen and one.
Right, not this team, notc J strouts, but the team.
Because they are watching you, andeverybody's watching you, you still got to
get up. Reminds me of areal quick story of buddy of mine who
was within Dallas who was on thecoaching staff and their runs when they were

(01:49:45):
the Dallas Cowboys, and Akman andIrvin and that MT in that group.
Michael and I, Michael, MichaelIrvan wouldn't wouldn't have a problem sharing these
stories. But and Michael and Italked about it when we worked together at
ESPN. You know, Michael likedto have fun it, make no mistake
about it. Go to Vegas,do his thing, be back the next
morning in the summertime, at thistime of year, right, Michael Irvin

(01:50:08):
would go do his thing. Thenext morning. He'd be in full gear
after a night, get on aplane after boom, be back in Irving,
Texas, full gear on moving thesled in this weather by himself,
and then doing a hanging knee residentin the locker room when everybody else wasn't
there yet. And you talk toTroy or anybody that's ever been there,
and you know who was the heartand soul of that practice, who kept

(01:50:30):
Michael Irvan's grind and ability the fearof failure drove him and Michael saying we
got to get him all one timeto talk about it, because it's just
so his passion for it, buthe never lost sight of what and Michael
was a great player. Michael knewhow to have fun. Michael knew how
to do how to make sure thatthe business that having fun didn't get in
the business of creating that. Youcan have that fun because you're a great

(01:50:54):
football player and you win. Sofor these guys to go out and have
I don't have a problem. Peopleget worried about it. CJ Stride playing
golf in February is not gonna affecthis throw in September, so we need
to slow down the butt or not, but perception some will. So for
him, it's to make sure thethings that got you to that great rookie
year, you're gonna have to domore. You you just are. So

(01:51:14):
you've got to manage all these thingsand you should enjoy them, but it
can't get in the way of whatyou realize that you want to sustain great
One year of greatness is one thing. Sustained greatness talked all the Aikman's,
the Brady's, the Warren Moons,who sustained greatness for fifteen, eighteen,
twenty years, right, and that'swhat they're gonna be at. I expect
great things from CJ. Strett.I expect him to play better, whether
that's better numbers, but better football. And that's saying something in his second

(01:51:39):
year. Yeah, that's exactly.It's sustaining. It's consistency, I think
is key and really first of allin life. Yeah, aboard one of
them, right exactly. You canhave one good shown. Can you do
five good shows in a row fora week. Well, I think we're
doing one good show here today.You're not even touched, so you're starting
to get into the flow of theearly may get a little too comfortable.

(01:52:02):
I just wake up by myself atfour thirty tomorrow. Just don't show up
for that. Today. This we'vegot Willy Fritz coming up at one o'clock,
so he is going to be havingan handle. It's been the first
hour with him. He's got WillyFritz. You have h head coach coming
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where are fun? Sports Talk sevenninety oh man, welcome back what clearly,
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ninety All right, ros erya withyou Sean Salisbury. Obviously it is the
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phone lines are open and available foryou. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three twoone two five seven ninety. So we're
talking a little bit about c J. Stroud and the Texans, how they're
not gonna sneak up on anybody thisyear. The schedule is a little bit
tougher, but that's kind of meone of the fun things and I always

(01:55:39):
say that, Sean, I alwaysenjoy the greatness that we can see,
and I'm excited to kind of seeif that can sustain with CJ. Stroud
if he does stay take a stepback and he's like, you want to
see somebody who's like one of themonce. Like there's people who root against
Lebron James. I root four forseeing all time greatness or for example,

(01:56:00):
this wimbled in this last week,it was can Novak Djokovic win another championship
and be it have twenty five GrandSlams or whatever? Golf? Can Tiger
challenge Jack Nichols, Nicholas, you'relooking to see you like, that's why
we watch. To me, youwatch the top of the Top, and
can CJ. Shroud follow up anextremely successful rookie year and keep that going?

(01:56:25):
When's the last time I believe hecan to answer your question, because
he did with traits of see.To me, it wasn't the numbers he
put up, it was how hegot we all look at. Certainly,
you know, if you're if you'rea we were talking about bourbon during the
break, Yeah, we were.If you're if you're let's say you're a

(01:56:45):
bourbon fanatic or an expert, orlook at do light and I know you
like it, so you may lookat it different than somebody's trying it the
first time. Does that makes sense? You just look at you It's like
anything. And Bruce and Matthews againwas on and thank you for a great
conversation. Bruce for two hours yesterdayjust as a player and him when he
played and now his coach. Youknow, I mean his son playing left
tackle in Atlanta and one of thegreat players in the league. How he

(01:57:06):
grades and looks at his son's performance. You watch the game different. And
in watching CJ. Side, itwasn't for me the success. It's great,
and he far ex anybody thought cst I was going to play like
that as rookiees a liar. Okay, you prought he played good, but
he didn't look like a rookie byany you know who looked like a rookie,
Bryce Young, that's how you're supposedto play. Some good, some

(01:57:27):
bad, and a whole bunch ofI'm not really sure what I'm doing with
c J. Stroud and watching him, to me, it wasn't just a
success. How it gets to it, the poise, the origency with the
ball, comes out the accuracy,the consistent accuracy on throws looking off safeties
right, the ability to use hiseyes and not you not play like a
rookie staring stuff down. The talayer footballs of the one, two,

(01:57:49):
and three were the laying meaning,Okay, I gotta rip this one in.
I got to touch here. Thatshows me it's not just all one
hundred mile on hour fastball. Gotto mix in a two singer, You
got to mix in a cutter,you got to mix in a change up.
All those things that you got tomake it right. And that's exactly
right. And for me, whenlayering the football is important, it's the
consistent, sustained accuracy of pushing theball and not just the ordinary play I

(01:58:11):
call the ordinary play. You gotto make all the time that zero to
twelve yards. The guy's got tomake those. The great ones, to
make the ordinary play all the time, He made them most of the time.
The intermediate stuff, you're like,no, those are hard. He
made those as much as anybody's supposedto make the ordinary play. And then
the big ones, the home runplay of forty. You know you're gonna
hit some, you're gonna miss some. He did stuff that when you take
great stuff from a lot of thegreat ones took four or five years to

(01:58:35):
get into in their career. Buthe says at one game and said,
okay, fine, but it wasevery week getting better. And then the
thing that sticks out the most rolesis you talked to over the years of
playing it, but talking to guysa lot smarter than me or coach it
or have played it. If yougive me a guy who's great inside of
two minutes, who protects the footballand who win it's at his very worst

(01:59:00):
of circumstances, is calm to playat their very best, and everybody else
feeds off it. If you giveme those traits as a quarterback, just
just using those in game traits,I gotta play. I got a guy,
I got a dude, and youknow what, show me where he
didn't play his best in those situations. He did most of the time and
on schedule. To me, likeyou can have rookie Rookies can kind of

(01:59:24):
come on the scene and they're notscanning the field, they're not reading the
defenses, so they just go outand get this progression exactly exactly on time,
in rhythm his footwork. I meanseverything. Listen the off schedule,
making plays off platform, that's justyou need it. That's the age plays
as a coach. A game thathappened that we can't coach. You go

(01:59:44):
throw it to the throw in thestand sometimes throwing in the stands the best
player in the world. Don't throwit to the other team, right,
making those decisions. But the onplay, you're boom boom boom, won
two three through it. Normally it'sone. I kind of got to two.
I'm gonna bail out and go.The ability to understand holding your water
in the pocket, all those things, and then being able to extend when
necessary, that's what tells me.So it wasn't the numbers that he posted.

(02:00:08):
It's how he got to those numbers, right, and how he got
to those numbers on a roster thatwas banged up on offensive line right from
the get go. Receivers at timeshe had to play his third guy was
his number one guy lost receivers.I mean it is he made people better,
and we hear that all the time. Sometimes I think, is that
cliche. It's not right made.It's the ability to a little kige,

(02:00:31):
no no doubt, and you knowross it is it's that the ability for
and it's not just making it better. It's for somebody to believe they're actually
better than they are. Right,And when it's the worst of circumstances,
you give me a guy who it'slike if you put a dog on monitor
on Jordan or Bird or Brady inthe worst of times, I'm telling you
their blood pressure is slower than andtheir pulse rate is down more than it

(02:00:55):
was when they opened the game comingout of the tunnel. I think C.
J. Strout's got that's right,dude. I think I do,
and I want to see it more. And here we always say it,
oh they are Are we expected tobunch? Well, hell yes, we
always we are. We just puthim in the Hall of Fame. But
we've seen things that say he cansustain greatness. I don't expect a sophomore
slam. I've one agree. Okay, time for a top of the hour

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This is the Sewan Salsbury Show.I'm asking you. I'm asking no
more specialization, you know, tornlabor on the way, Three more outs
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know how it's going though, Thinkabout old days. It used to be
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have ankle replacement. What is goingon here? Yeah? Hey, what's
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glute's killing me from my neck injury. There you go, yeah, next
soreness. Yeah, hopefully Verlander's okay? All right? Sean Salisbury, our
number four of the show Ross ViaReal with you Tripoli as well, and

(02:05:51):
you on the phone lines. Atseven one three, two one two five
seven ninety All Star Game yesterday,the American League wins five to three.
I mean, what are performance fromjord On Alvarez. I mean, he
just really laid it all on theline, went out there and drew a
walk and then he was done.The ability not to have to take any
ground balls or pop flies and drawa walk by what six pitch walk whatever

(02:06:14):
it was and get you asked firstBasin, Yeah, sit down, big,
I like that. Thank you,Boach, Yeah, appreciate it.
Keep him healthy. That's what we'vebeen talking about. But overall, you
know, Sean, as you weretalking about how many first time All Stars
was it? I thought there wasover there's what sixty players in the game.
I want to say thirty plus.I'm gonna say thirty five, thirty
three to thirty five new players inthe game, thirty nine first time All

(02:06:38):
Stars? There you go? Isthat right? Well? How many do
they name to the team. Ithink there's like sixty dudes. I think
there's sixty guys. I do.I think it's third I think fifty three
man. Yeah. I think there'sthirty dudes on each team, Yes,
which allows you the freedom to onlyplay them. Yeah, won it bat
and so thirty nine almost forty that'sthat's what are we talking about? Eighty
damn near eighty percent of the squad, you know, or so is uh

(02:07:00):
first timers. Yeah. It feelslike, you know, kind of you
remember we were in like in football, there was the the Elie, there
was a Peyton Mannings, there wasTom Brady and Aaron Rodgers were kind of
like, hey, where's that nextera, where's the next question? What
are young quarterbacks? Who are they? Yeah? And then now there's Pat
Mahomes, there's Josh Allen, nowCJ. Stroud opening to be part of
that. Justin Herbert, it feelslike, for whatever reason, all these

(02:07:25):
next generations are coming like foot,NFL, NBA, and Major League Baseball
at the same time, and thenext generation of Major League All Stars is
a year no doubt well talking aboutboth Ross Witt Jr. Yes, do
you talk about the skeensue. Thedude hasn't even urinated a drop in the
league and he's six and oh throwinga hundred. Yeah, rushman to another

(02:07:48):
one. Well, Baltimore's got aBaltimore's got like eight. Yeah, you
got a factory going on eight.Just white guys, you see, and
walking through North Dakota Airport, rightthey draft the sayd I mean the same
guy, curly haired, curly haired, looks like he belongs on the beach
in a fraternity and just got donesurfing and goes in like he hits forty
home runs. Right exactly, theygot that guy. I mean you start

(02:08:09):
to look around, though, there'sa good mix of those inter meet the
veteran you know, the the Arranjudges, and Sodo is still dude.
Sodo's still young? Is he twentyTucker? Yes, we look at I
look at yourd On. It's likehe's been raking so long. It's like,
what's he twenty six? I feellike he's been in the league like
fifteen years and his best baseball stillin front of him. So Bobby Witt

(02:08:33):
Junior another. I mean, theyare everywhere, these guys that you look
around and say, can Rake powergut does it all? That's hitting second
and also is as a home runderby guy. I mean they're everywhere and
on the mound as well. Sowe are in pretty good shape with these
young players that seem to not onlyjust come on the scene, but come
on the scene and disrupt in ahurry, right, disrupt baseball And you're

(02:08:56):
like, damn, that guy canplay, and so it's fun to watch.
And now you look at the NFL. You tell me, now,
I know top heavy matters in thisand how we judge quarterbacks and championships and
all that, but come on,man, you start to go through and
we got guys Jalen Hurts didn't makethe general managers next top tens. He's

(02:09:16):
a fifty million dollars a year guy. Yeah, tool wasn't on that list.
Miami's gonna give him a new bigdeal, and he's got that team
on the playoff. I mean,he's capable of five thousand yard season.
Start to look at the guys whoaren't in their top ten, and you
start saying, you get around sixteenth, perty been to an NFC championship game
in Super Bowl the first two yearsof starting as the last pick of the
draft. How they're developing. Wegot guys, listen, I could take

(02:09:39):
the next six or seven out ofthe that didn't make the top ten,
and I'm gonna be able to conI'm gonna I can still line up and
beat Jordan Love. Jordan Love provedyou beat Dak Prescott in the playoffs.
We got guys sitting around number fifteenthat you're like, how's he? Yeah,
I think it's pretty frigging the fifteenbest quarterback this day in age compared

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to like twenty thirty years ago.Different story, brother, I think,
yeah, how much is that sportsnutrition improvement? Coaching improvement? Yeah,
and just the constant population growth numbers, and then the than the the the
shortened training camp and they're giving Imean where you're you know, a lot.
It's a slow start because it's alittle sluggis because you're not learning as
much. But they're spending time withhim, all these innovative offenses, and

(02:10:24):
they're putting guys, they're putting headsetand then you can get one hundred rep
there, there's no question about it, five minutes. There is no debt.
Technology. You've been a big partof it. There is no doubt.
In let's face fact, we gotsome pretty talented guys too. A
lot of reps throwing the football,and the more it's like shooting, you
shoot more. I guess what you'reyou're actually probably gonna get more repute.
Well you should be better at it, right, But we are. We

(02:10:46):
are blessed with some top heavy notjust at the quarterback position, but looking
like Jefferson at wide receiver. Yeah, the guy has got The guy's a
freaking yeah, and I'm not surehe's seen his best football yet. So
and then we're not even talking aboutthat's right. Kirk Cousins will throw for
five thousand yards this year and youhaven't even let everybody's called them just a
guy. Everyone says Kirks just aguy. Hasn't made like five hundred million

(02:11:07):
dollars. And I'm telling you rightnow, Atlanta's perimeter people are like,
oh my gosh, the biggest seasonof my career because Kirk Cousins is going
to throw it eight million times.So we've got some really friggin good players
that can't sniff the top ten andat their position let alone that I think

(02:11:28):
the one thing. As long asthe offensive lines continue to stay together and
dominate, we got special. Butthe young players in baseball and basketball you
had read Shepherd Jalen Green, youknow, I mean not just not here,
but around the league that guy.Speaking of freaks, the justin Jefferson's
of the world, Minnesota's filled witha couple of them. That uh,
Anthony Edwards. I must have missedEdwards, Okay, because when I played

(02:11:52):
there, the lakes weren't filled withthe same skin. But you get my
point. The guys that are that, the young guys. And if we
can never get John Morant back andget his head right, that guy's still
a kid. We're talking. We'vegot some dominant players that don't know how
to play yet in all three sports. And when they do, forget it.
Yeah, I think holidays all ofit. He gets more chance levels

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(02:12:39):
twenty twenty four came out on ESPN'slist. We will get to that as
we come back here. It isthe Sean Salisbury Show. You want to
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on high Here's the final say onall disputes. Back to the Sean Salisbury
Show on Sports Talk seven ninety phonelines open at seven one three two one
two five seven ninety seven one threetwo one two five seven ninety mentioned that
we were going to get to thetop ten ESPN quarterback list, but Joseph

(02:14:52):
has been holding for a while.Joseph, go ahead, good morning,
how you doing this morning? Great? What do you got this? And
now I have a couple of commentsthat I want to listen to your marks
on that though, but I'm say, uh, one thing, come in
my mind, you should have gottwo deep threats. I remember my last

(02:15:13):
team that had two deep threats likethat was his old Saint Louis Rams.
And also I want to add theHouston game against Seattle. Come branded to
me, that is the best onebecause I believe I used to win that
game. It's gonna change the oldstory. Thank you very much and have
a good day. Thank you.And I believe he's referring to Tory Holt

(02:15:37):
and Isaac Bruce. Yeah, Iwould have sa I do agree with that.
Nixed in was as I hear Akiemrun it out of shot and obviously
the great Marshall fulk one of thehighest speeds on offense. Guys. Yeah,
he went half back. It wasKurt Warner was okay delivering it too.
He did all right himself. Yeah, that's the thing about uh C
J. Stroud and where we arewith him is what he had to work

(02:15:58):
with last year. And no disrespectto Noah Brown or John Matchi coming off
of unfortunate with his cancer treatments andall that type stuff. I mean,
it's the weapons are there. Therunning game is going to be better.
I think what were they twenty secondI think the running game was last year.
You got Joe Mixon and you've gotDamian Pierce. Perhaps the light bulb
can go back on for him andthe weapons all around. Dalton Schultz is

(02:16:22):
back. I mean, there's noexcuses. They put it that way.
Tremendous bandwidth, more than they've everhad here. Now hear what I'm saying
out loud. This is the mostbandwidth with receivers, quarterback, running back
at the same time they've ever hadhere and with the offensive coordinator. That's
a good problem to have and makesure you get the ball distributed to do

(02:16:43):
a lot of good players ross.I've said it on the show the last
couple days. I must say louderso the people in the back can hear.
I think across the NFL this yeardid When the season is over,
if it goes the way that we'resupposed to, we're going to say,
did one of the five best acquisitionsthat happened in the NFL coach or player
is Joe Mixon at running back?Okay, the ability to catch it out

(02:17:05):
of the backfield, the ability tostay in for three downs and block,
the ability that I'm singing his praisebecause I know durable, big, physical
can get you sixty to sixty fivecatches and rush for twelve hundred yards thirteen
hundred yards and play three downs andtouch twenty five Tames times a game without
you're wearing him out. And thenyou can get Damian Pierce's your change up
back. Here's the deal. Andthink about the offense that he's been in.

(02:17:28):
Zach Taylor Cincinnati, Where Zach Taylorcome from the Rams, Sean McVay,
Kyle Shanahan, Yes, now BobbySlowek here where they come from?
Forty nine ers? And when's thatforty nine er offense excelled at its best
training for Christian McCaffrey. Yes,it's say Deebo Samuel Versull Tank Dell.
While he's not as big as Deebo, Samuel gives you some versatility in and

(02:17:50):
out, being able to move piecesaround to create mismatches and to create stress
on defenses on first down, secondout, third done. Mixing gives you
that ability, and so the bandwidththe And here's the difference. I love
brock Purty. I think he's ahell of a player, but what Brock
Party doesn't have is the physical abilitythat CJ. Stroud does. Now,

(02:18:11):
while McCaffrey's better than Joe Mixon,mixing's in the team picture. When it
comes to versatile running backs who cancarry it, catch it, block it,
run it, and play action.Even when he doesn't touch it,
you have to respect it, whichgives you more of those throwing lanes you
want at the second level over thetop and a round linebackers who have they're

(02:18:31):
number one assignment and defense. Sopeople understand this. I don't care if
it's third and seven or if it'sfirst and ten. A linebacker's number one,
especially in the in that area.I guess in the box, you
better stop the run first because ifyou decide you're going to bail and play
too deep on third and six,I will hand it to Joe Mixon and
I will get a first down.So I think it's going to be and
I I'll say it now, andI believe it by the end of the

(02:18:54):
season. If Mixon's standing at theend of season then healthy in place in
that seventeen game range, not onlywith Houston Texas win the division, that
he will be and I'd say MVP, but he will have been as underrated
and as under we're talking Stephan Diggsand I get it, and you're talking
aboutdaneil Hunter. This may be themost important signing they had this offseason on

(02:19:15):
offense. On offense, I firmlybelieve it is because of the bandwidth he
increases for the Texans, which theyhaven't had probably since Arian Foster when it
comes to that ability to do allof it, and now Aaron didn't have
the quarterback that this guy that theygot. Now their bandwidth is at the
all time high since Houston's been afranchise here, I mean since the Texans
have been a franchise here. Andalso if barring health, Joe Mixon didn't

(02:19:41):
have the offensive line in Cincinnati thatcan't keep Joe Burrow healthy. He's got
a much better offensive line here aslong as everybody's healthy. And when were
they at their best when Burrow washealthy and Joe Mixon was healthy, Yes,
and they and even when Mixon wentout and when he's been banged up
a little bit, which didn't veryoften, Samaji p Ryan came, they

(02:20:03):
had guys come in and perform.Because I'm going to tell you what coaches
in the San Francisco forty nine ersslash Texans offense, what they want to
do and since fam banks, theywant to run it, dude, they
want to run the football. Theywant to throw it there thirty times,
twenty eight to thirty two times.They don't want to throw it forty times.
Most don't. You want to runit. And I believe C.
J. Strout could actually have moreproduction this year with less stress forcing his

(02:20:26):
throes to have he could throw itless and be more productive because of Joe
Mixon in the backfield. It's ahuge git complimentary football. Yes, no
doubt as they call it, certainlyimportant. Okay, well I went all
along there, but that's okay,thank you Joseph for the question. We
got our top ten is we gotto get to right teas that maybe sorry,
yes, you know what. Itry to pay off when I tease,
and I like your teasers, bro, like thank you. I don't

(02:20:48):
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(02:23:01):
Sean. Ready to get down toit. ESPN polling executives and pundits and
coaches and scouts ranking the top tenquarterbacks for twenty twenty four. Let's start
with number ten, Dek Prescott makingthe list ranked ninth last year, so

(02:23:24):
dropped him. He was second theMVP voting. I think Prescott. Listen,
we judge them all the cousins,Garoppolo's, Prescott's guys that get to
the postseason, Josh Allen, LamarJackson. We know they're talented, but
haven't taken it to that February level. But guess what, there's only two
a year that actually get to dothat. Right, that's the right,

(02:23:46):
But the judgment's almost unfair. Butall he can't win in January, Well,
he was second the MVP. DekPrescott's a hell of a football player,
a hell of football player. Butyou start to wonder it's and once
again it's not a great regular season. Then in January we've seen a couple
of times his best football hasn't beenplayed. And when Jordan Love comes into
his building and outplays in, peopleout, well, what's going on.

(02:24:09):
I think the league respects Dak Prescott, and Dak Prescott's a hell of a
player, but it's time to forthe Cowboys and him, and they didn't
do a lot this offseason, soI don't know. It's almost like they
want you, you need more players, but you're not willing. And then
we bitch about Dak Prescott I winningJanuary, and yet you don't give him
some of the guys he needs toelevate. Yet he still puts up numbers.

(02:24:31):
I think he's a great player,but I'm not sure that Dallas is
going to win a super Bowl withthem. And it's not just him,
it's the overall. It's he justhappens to be a product of it.
It peas me a little bit.Quarterback obviously is the most important position,
but wins being a quarterback stat likeDak Prescott is. Whatever his record is

(02:24:52):
in the playoff, that's the DallasCowboys record. Well, it's not an
individual sport. Why don't we judgea left tackle by his win and losses?
Well, he judge plays performance rightweek exactly. That that's the thing
too, And of course it mattersmore and it means more, and that's
the guy that's gonna get all theglory, and that's God, it's going
to get all the blame. Butto me, when I see it kind

(02:25:13):
of gives me a little bit ofan eye roll when I see this person
is whatever record in the playoffs.They do it in basketball some too.
I mean there's five, there's fourother guys on the floor with a basketball
player. There's Dak Prescott. Lasttime I checked, he wasn't playing defensive
end for the for the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. If somebody's averaging seven yards
to carry, I don't thought that'son the back. How about they score
like thirty five, forty or whateveragainst the Dallas Cowboys. It was like,

(02:25:35):
my USC Trojans get a friggin stop. Okay, yeah, Oh Cayleb
Williams sucks. Why because he scoredfifty and the other team scored fifty five?
Okay, Yeah, my dad,Dak Prescott belongs to the top ten.
People downgraded Pat Mahomes coming out ofTexas Tech because the winning record wasn't
very good. Give up sixty agame. He scores too fast, that's
another. Well, he scores toofast. Defense is tired. Yeah,

(02:25:58):
that's it, and that's a Holmesare Caleb Williams problem. Right, Yeah,
Dak belongs in the top ten.I like, matter of fact,
I'm good right where that sits atten, the number nine Jared Goff.
First question, do you have JaredGoff ahead of Dak? No. I
wouldn't put because I think if youflip flopped him, I think they both

(02:26:18):
put up numbers. And I thinkon the I think Detroit is a better
team than Dallas right now I do? I do. I think they're better.
So for me, I get itgot out. My tribute to golf
is all the flak he took inLa you know, and they were in
a super Bowl and to go andbe like we're getting rid of you.
For Matt Staff, it turned outthat staffs no question. And for Dan

(02:26:41):
Campbell, who challenged him his firstyear there, said I got to get
more out of Jared Goff method ofthe matters and he has you know what
if you'd asked me this question eighteenmonths ago. Fifteen months ago, Jared
Goff wouldn't have been in my topten. I would have that probably reversed.
And I think that I can makethe argument that the golf purty Jalen
Hurts, but Goff took the elevationthis year with the way his team played.

(02:27:05):
They look at the team, he'sput up good numbers. I think
as far as disrespect goes, Ithink Goff's had a lot of it,
and I think he's getting it startingto elevate where people are starting to take
him even more serious. He's ahell of a player. I think he's
in that nine to twelve thirteen rightin that role we're in there. Yeah,
but I would have Prescott probably oneabove him. I would flip flop

(02:27:26):
that order. But I think Iget why Goff's in the top ten.
If you just said Perdy was tenor Jalen Hurts was ten, I wouldn't
have argued with it. But Ithink he has made Detroit better, and
two years ago we didn't know howlong the commitment was going to beat him.
They made one y and Jared Goff'sgood player, and I'm very deserving
number eight. Aaron Rodgers more ofa kind of an X factor with the
Achilles injury right and missing all thetime last year. I'll say this,

(02:27:50):
if you told me for one seasonand the Jets got a good roster,
buddy, they got some perimeter people. And if you told me for one
season then and let them I'm assumingRogers is one hundred percent healthy. Correct,
That's what I have said. Ryes, that's too low. That that's
last year is ranking fourth? Yeah? That that that's too and the year

(02:28:13):
he would be right, And maybeit's the office. You know, Aaron,
he's a lightning rod for you know, driving people crazy and going on
McAfee and say, you know hegets people's ire. You know what I'm
saying. They he can get intotheir skin because of his personality. But
if you're saying, Sean, andif you're telling me for five years,
Aaron Rodgers is about a matter offact, I wouldn't have him in the
top ten. I don't think AaronRodge is going to dominate five years.

(02:28:35):
Now, three years, I'd keephim in there. One year, number
eight's too low. It was adown year his last year in Green Bay
and an achilles injury. But also, I mean, do you look at
the track. Why am I goingto doubt him Aaron Rodgers on a good
team for one year or you're nottelling me he's gonna Do you expect him
to be an m v P cantthis year if he plays all seventeen,

(02:28:58):
I will say no, Okay,I think he'll I'll tell the tal tier
two. Yeah, some, that'sfair, that's fair. But at some
point in time that on on oneof these shows they'll mention, oh,
do after two of three good gamesin the world, They'll be saying,
oh, what a comeback? Ishe a MVP candidate and comeback Player of
the Year. You'll hear it.I don't think he's gonna put up those
gaudy and numbers because they're gonna beversatile for a one year stint. And
if he's healthy, rod h' toolow. The guy's a good player.

(02:29:22):
Yeah, number seven, let's goahead and get to it because we do
have to get down the rest ofthe list by the end of the show.
Ce J Stroud, Houston, Texans. The only reason I have him
there, and then that I agreewith it because it's only been one year.
If he repeats next year. Thisyear, and we're talking and we'll
have the same conversation next year.Guess where he'll be Top four? I

(02:29:43):
think so the top four. Sothe only reason is it's just the sustained
part of it, the sustained partof you. You're just talking about to
say, now, if you saidSean for the next decade, he ain't
his seven brother, he's in thetop three. You know what's funny is
two is putting him there after oneyear. I mean that just got to
put your smile on your face.As a textas and I it's not just

(02:30:03):
a writer or a buddy or alocal media, it's it's the executives,
coaches and scoutouts. If it's fiveyears or more, seven's four too low,
if it's one year and one year, if they're just judging from okay,
had it, and we're just partof what he's going to be like
this year. I'm okay with seven. I'm okay with seven, but I
don't think he's staying there at thistime. This conversation we're having next year,

(02:30:24):
when Brian's on vacation and yours,uh, it'll be Stroud will be
in the top five. And whenthe top one hundred players come out and
as voted by the players again.You know in the NFL network, he'll
he'll already be in the top they'llthey'll have him in the top twenty five.
You watch, I think you canalready argue against the next two on
the list who will get to fairenough. When we come back here on

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He's so gifted and I think hardballwill help him. They put a
lot on him, a lot ofinjuries. He belongs there. But I'll
tell you what that's gonna switch unlessHerbert takes another step this year. But
he's got a big body and cando a lot. And he can.
He got great movement as well.Yeah, and something to keep an eye
for. The Texans. Six ofthe top seven in the AFC, the
one that is not Matthew Stafford numberfive. Yeah, this is He's still

(02:33:01):
one of the great all time throwersof the football. Respect his toughness and
the Rams just can't. You can'treplace him. The guy keeps grinding and
grinding, and what a git itwas to get him into into LA.
I love Matt Stafford, man,I do I think he is a He's
still got plenty of game left.I don't know if he's got another six
years old. Yeah, he's hecan still, but his arm is so

(02:33:24):
lively. He's and he and hetakes really good care of Himif there's no
doubt, I'm a huge fan.He belongs there. But this is we're
talking short term stuff. It's oddthey gave Matt Stafford. They still hold
him in that high regard at thirtysix Rogers coming off an injury for we're
just doing one season. They gothim at eight, right, and yet
you think, well, Rogers iswon a bunch of him. Yeah,
piece is that I'm a huge Staffordfan, and for the next two or

(02:33:46):
three years he'll still give us greatfootball. And this one's interesting to me.
The reigning MVP and two time MVPLamar Jackson is four and just ahead
of him is Josh Allen. Yeah, I wouldn't I three better thrower of
the football? Alan is I'm okaywith this. I am I'm okay and
I get that, and I thinka lot of people would agree. There's

(02:34:09):
some that would put Lamar Jackson secondconsidering Burrow's injury, just like some would
put Allen ahead of Burrow, whichwe're gonna get to. I wouldn't Alan,
I get right now, But whenBurrow's healthy, it's Burrow and Mahomes
are the top two players in theposition in the league right now in my
opinion, So yes, I butright there, Lamar, the two MVPs.
I think what they're waiting for isto him to get to a wow

(02:34:31):
factor. Oh my gosh, January, and I'm telling you he can,
and Monkin can help him. Theircoordinator from Georgia after another year with him,
and had Derek Henrial help. Yougot to take some of the running
burden off, Lamar Jackson. Youdo. And people who say you can't
throw a lot, he can throwthe football and he can make all kinds
of plays. I'm a big fan. He'd just there's just another level to

(02:34:52):
his game. I think we're waitingon force fair. But I understand why
you would put him ahead of JoshAllen because Alan kills his team at times
with poor throws in the red zone, and on the other side, he
helps your team with all this greatstuff. So they need him. It's
damned if you do, damned ifyou don't. He's got to protect the
ball better in the red zone,all right. Last year's number two is
this year's number two Joe Burrow,No, no argument, just got to

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get healthy. You's got to stayhealthy. If Burrow stays healthy, we're
looking at an epic. Dude,those two will be battling each other and
it won't be the last time inan AFC Championship game with the guy in
front of him. The one andtwo are fair, but on production alone
and in lack of injuries, Icould get while Lamar and Allen would have
the argument for two. But likewe said, and when Burrow's on the
field and healthy, Joe Burrow,there's some When he is going good that

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Super Bowl, you start to argue, is he the best? Mahomes belongs
at one. I'm okay with Burrowtoo. I love Joe Burrow. Yeah,
yep bo. When I say yes, I mean yes arguing that,
of course, I don't think you'regonna have too much of an argument.
Putting this Pat Mahomes guy at numberone numbers production makes everybody better keep his
figure. He ate bad and didit last year with a lack of the

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top flight weapons not named Kelsey andstill elevated to see Agent Kelsey, who
had kind of a down year.Honestly, by his standard, there is
no question about. It's a greatpoint, yeah, Mahomes And until somebody
listen, we can have all theconversation we want. The dude's a freak
show, absolute, absolute freak show, all right, Larry and Stafford has
been waiting. Just a couple ofminutes left, Larry, But go ahead.

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Hey, what's going on fellas?Y'all doing good today? Man?
All good, buddy, how areyou? I'm good man. I hope
everybody up there seven ninety survived theStar, the storm, sun and everybody
got power back. Man. Butit's time to start talking some football man,
because camp camp opened up. Now, I'm gonna get to your list
real quick. Ain't no way inhell Jim Harbaugh and Sean McVay wouldn't trade

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both to they quarterbacks for CJ.Stroud Man. No, they would,
for a long term, for afight, no doubt, no doubt they
would. They trade them in aheartbeat for cj' stroud man. Because here's
the thing. He has done somethingthat nobody in the league has seen a
rookie quarterback. Do we play withthat kind of POI and that kind of
precision on passes and everything? AndI know everybody might think, well,

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you're just a homer. You damnright, I am, because I know
and iine watched a lot of quarterbackand when you see a quarterback with that
kind of those kind of feet andthat kind of ability to look over all
the progressions and then people that don'tthink people know what progressions are. You
see Cez Head going from left toright and seeing what's going open and holding
that ball. No, them boys, has c de straussud be probably in

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that top five. But I getit because, like you said, Son
has only been one one year,and now we get to go out here
and see that all these weapons thatNick Cassario has brought in, from Joe
Nixon to the ten thousand wide receivershe got over there, this is gonna
be a fun time for them boyson Kurby. Maybe because I'm gonna tell
you something as a diehard Texan fans, and that somebody that bought his season

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tickets the day they dropped them backin two thousand and two. This has
been something that we all have beenwaiting for that this team, in symmetry
and everything, had the head coachand the quarterback all lined up to get
my ass to New Orleans because it'sa short rhyme for your boy in New
Orleans to go watch the Super Bowlin February. And everything that I'm seeing

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and feeling from office to defense,the special team Nick and Dimico has put
something special over there on Kirby andI can't wait to get my ass out
there and wash the boys really startputting this thing together. Because if you're
not a diehard football fan and youcan't respect what the Texans have done in
this offseason, your ass got biggerproblems than you think you got. So

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a son, I'm telling you andb lema, y'all might as well tell
Triple E get ready to open themdamn phone lines because I'm anything and well
keep one always open for you.Larry, thanks so much. And the
enthusiasms through the roof. Now itis and we are talking football, and
I love expectations, and I thinkthey had one of the best off seasons
in football. Look about the impactthey had mix An impact, Stefan Diggs

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impact, Danil Hunter impact. That'sjust to name a few. Yeah,
man, I'm not just talking aboutimpact. I'm talking about Okay, let's
put it this way. You tellme those three guys aren't capable of all
being in the Pro Bowl. Theyabsolutely are. I know Pro Bowl may
not be the but when you putup to be in the Probole, you're
putting up those type of numbers andmaking that kind of impact. I'm telling
Dunsel Dalton Schultz, this is thebest all around team when you count coaches

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and quarterback that you've seen here,maybe maybe since the Texans have been a
team. I'm telling you they're thatloaded. And I believe that much in
Temko runn. But the thing is, as I said, the seven or
no, you put the Jets inthere. That's eight. And let's see
what was nine to ten? Ninewas Golf NFC. Ten was Dack ten

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NFC. Seven of the top eightquarterbacks on that on that list. In
the AFC, the AFC gauntlet isit's insane. Yeah, and the tenth
guy in the a f C likeTua that like who is in Miami.
You're you're gonna say, dude,Yeah, the gauntlet of AFC quarterbacks is
gut wrenching to have to get through, but fun to watch. It's like

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Kevin Maddox, Randy Johnson, RogerClow. I mean, although and you
got to face him one after theother. That's what you're getting with the
AFC Gauntlet's it's but it's gonna bea friggin great watch. I almost said
watching all right, Sean, appreciateyou having me to that. Cue brother,
and you'd be back tomorrow. Yes, I look forward to back to

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back, dude, You're welcome.You're starting back to back doubleheaders. I
like it. Thank you, brother, that's I don't thank you for granted.
I appreciate that back with you allhad twelve thanks to Sean Salisbury,
thanks to oh gosh, why ishis name? Marty Smith, Marty Smith
and Triple E. Of course,we'll talk to you tomorrow six am.