Astros Lose To A's, Texans Training Camp Updates, Dana Brown's Weekly Segment

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Salisbury. Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury, the USC truth,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, RyanLima, go Lobos. This is the
Sewan Salisbury show. Like a minorleague baseball team. Yeah, Seattle loss.

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So the Aos still tied. Andwho was it that got him the
Angels again. I'm just I'm justsaying, man, you've got an excellent
opportunity. And damn Butler almost hitfor the cycle on him last night.
They hit five home runs, hitanother bomb. Yeah, it was not
a I think Butler's leading the leaguein RBI is in the in the month

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of July. I mean this,we're talking Oakland. A's here dog,
So go ahead and finish your headlines. You know, I was just thinking
about Tim McGraths song coming back comingin that when a whole was a hole.
You know what I'm saying was whatwas he speaking of? Like a
whole? Let you hold your yardright correct? Yeah? Oh okay,
Yeah, I was just it isWestern Wednesday. Yeah, That's why I
was just putting some respect on whena hole was a hole? You know

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what I'm saying. Yeah, andcracks what you were doing with the whole?
No, when I didn't know ifyou've met that, I mean you
can. I did, well.You put the three together, A hoe,
coke, a hole, what acoke was a coke, a hole
was a hole, and crack.I mean you could put them all three
together, if you know what Imean. Yeah, think about it.

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Sounds like a night like a motWe just got back for Vegas exactly.
They are going to aff around andfind out if they're not careful, because
what happens if they go if thisis one of their win two out of
ten and all of a sudden,Seattle starts to roll and wins eight out
of ten. You get my point? Yeah, everything, you're getting fortunate.
Yes, that's what busted. You'reasked for. Right, you go

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on the road and you're still tiedfor first place, but you put yourself
in a position to uh, you'reyou're you're toying with you you're playing with
fire here. Not that Oakland can'tplay, but let's let's face factor.
They're a forty one win team andI know they're raking in July, and
I know that they they've got someplayers. Put it this way, you

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roll through the lineup. If you'reyou can be a baseball person. I'm
talking about it deep into baseball,and you know what, you won't know
seven of their nine starters you neverheard of them. If you're if you're
an average baseball fan, you don't. You don't other than a couple of
players. You don't know the lineup. You don't know the names in the

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lineup, right, Yeah, youhave no idea who Lawrence Butler is,
right, and and you and Ido because we follow it there in the
division. I mean, you know, in the division. But it's interesting
the way they're playing. But youcan't allow this to creep in. You
can't. They already lost the series. They pounded out thirteen hits the A's
did, yes, and five ofthem were home runs. Yeah. Lost
was was not good. He wasyou know, over the bloss experiment and

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the kid back down. Let himget some work in and let's call like
it is. Yeah, Okay,no, I'm not talking. Can they
can they? I mean exactly startI guess. I mean you might as
well go back to what you weredoing with Duban and mix in whoever else.
You want a six man rotation.You gotta find five first, right

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do you? And you and youhave to this there's there's no better team
that needs an Armor two more thanthere's no team that's a good team in
this league. It has a chanceto win a World Series that still needs
more help than the Astros do toget I'm on the health side, at
the top of the in the rotation. You know how we've been talking about

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the trade deadline over the last twoweeks and we keep mentioning they need a
starting pitcher and a first baseman.I'm on the side now they need to
starting pitchers and a relief pitcher.I've told you my priorities, and you
know I want to Bopper at firstbaseman. I've told you Singleton didn't get
a hit last night. Yep.That for me, it's minimum of one
starter, yeah, and minimum ofa bullpen guy. So that's two of

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the guys you're talking about. Idid. And if you got three pitchers,
I'm okay with the two starters anda bullpen. Two bullpens and a
start. I don't care how youdo it. One of them has got
to be a start on one ofthem's got to be a bullpen bullpen,
and then you go get the didn'tgo get me a first baseman yet,
you sit there and watch the waythis team has has gone into Oakland and
Lee's runners in scoring position and doesn'trake. Now, doesn't it look to

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you like the a's of the teamwith the sense of urgency the last two
games two for eleven last night inrunners run with a bucket one for six
or one for seven the day before. Yes, okay, so you're telling
me you're three for seventeen, threefor eighteen, three for seventeen. Yeah,
they left on eight two nights ago, seven last night. That's fifteen
runners. Remember how we always talkabout you let average teams hang around and

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then they beat you. Now,I understand they're hot and they're pro baseball
players and the rest of it,but you're not supposed to let forty one
win teams in front of four thousandpeople beat you. And I really don't
want to hear. Nobody's saying it, I don't think, but please stay
away from the trap top And numbertwo is Yeah, Number two is I

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don't want to hear. Well,it's hard to go into a place when
there's no fans or no motivation.I believe the home team's playing in it
too, so you just can't.These are so everybody's gonna focus on Dodger
shares, and rightfully so, andmaybe they'll play better against the Dodgers.
But I just don't think you can. I think it's a mental lapse that
allows you to do this against theteam on the road in front of four

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thousand or five thousand people. Youjust can't do it. So I think
the sense of urgency absolutely has tohappen for them, and they got to
walk you. They can't get sweptby this team. No, no,
they cannot get swept by this team. They get to win this game.
And then, like I said,they are getting very they're very fortunate that

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the Seattle Mariners forgot how to playbaseball for the most part. So today
you're gonna have Hunter Brown on themountain, so one of your guy that
this should be a win with theway he's been going. Yep, two
thirty seven is the first pitch.I mean, you look at the lineup
last night. Look at Victor Carratinicoming back into the lineup hidden getting two

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hits, going two for four.He might be a guy that you're gonna
have to have some run at firstbase if when the trade deadline gets here
and goes and you don't get afirst baseman. Listen if you want to,
if you want to, if youwant a first baseman, a consistent
hit or no disrespect. I toldyou if you weren't going to put him
there, of the guys that you'vebeen putting at first base, Singleton should
be playing. But if you reallywant a guy who's gonna put the bat

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on the ball on a regular basis, more consistency, and you're not going
to go out and get one onthe trade at the trade deadline, but
put him there. Yeah, youjust put him there. Yeah. To
me, it's it's you put himthere, and then on the days that
you need him to catch, hecan go from first base to catching one

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day and then move to jiner das with the DH and put jord On
in left field. You can dothat, you know what I mean?
I mean that that's not that hard. So I just it's frustrating to watch
a team that's got that's played sowell in June and early July, and
then to coming to go into andget beat you know what, they got
beat two or three in Seattle.Correct, they want to one two or

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three in Seattle, and they've lostright, the last one. So they've
lost three in a row, correct, And I just they can't have these
these lulls, man, they justcan't, no, because on the flip
side of it, if they winthese last two games, then they separate
themselves a little bit from the Marinersin the aos. But now, well,
there are two games, and thatthey'd be two, they'd be two

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games to the front in the front, yeah, rolling yep, going for
a sweep today, you know.And then they are saying the same thing
about look what we're doing against theAngels, right, that's what they're saying.
So it it is there, it'sgonna be one of those. And
I didn't even see. Did theRangers win last night? They did?
Yeah, they did. What's whatwhat's the distance between I've kind of I

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don't want to say, Steve Sparks, as we talked about, do not
sleep on the Rangers in the secondhalf of the season. So the Rangers
are three back of the of theleague. So we'll see. It is
as Steve said, and we talkedabout, and we even talked about they're
gonna hit and talk about getting deGrom back, Sureser is back. And
if you don't move him, andyou say, we're gonna make a run

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for this thing. And listen,do you question the manager's decisions and that
on that team, No, youdon't. So they're they're pretty they're pretty
secure there. This team is notgoing away. And remember when they were
six back a couple a week agoor whatever it was six to seven back
me in the Rangers. And nowlook here they are sitting in a position

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to you know, there are aseries away from being back in it,
and they're all going to play eachother. So it's just I was disappointed
last night with the the astis.It really was. Yeah, that's that's
the perfect word. Disappointed. Andthey're better than that now, Like I
said, is that they're still infirst place. The crazy thing they are
still in first place. But whatare we doing with that parade though?
That's well f in fourteen sixty three, decide to put a detoy. You

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can't go down there right now.Street flooding, yes, yeah, it
rain, I mean street flight,just what it does every time, and
in certain areas that got a littledip in the road or something, low
lying areas, Yeah, yeah,it's big business as usual. So they
okay, yeah, we're gonna usefour wheel drives on the pro if they
don't lose to open Yeah, ifthey'll get swept. Yeah. Frustrating to

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me, man, Yeah, Iwas disappointed. Not they need to that
they care if I'm disappointed, butjust disappointed in It feels like these last
two games, the sense of urgencyhas gone to hell in a handbasket.
And I understand the enthusiasm or lackthereof when you go play in a ballpark,
the man, but you know what, you don't have that choice.

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You don't have the luxury. AndI mean you've been there before right now,
You're gonna get some wild crowds forsix or so here when you come
back, and the Dodgers and whodoesn't want to see the kid from Pittsburgh
play? Did you see what hedid last night? He gave up two
hits and got the loss. Yeah, yeah, and eight and a third.
And also I'm talking about the everydayplayer too. I mean, what's

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this, what's the big kid's name? This short stocks Reynolds. Oh,
he's an All star as well.He's really good too. Oh my gosh,
Ellie day La Cruz, I meanyeah, O'Neil cruise. Yeah,
there you go big physical. Iwas thinking of ye and then he was
an All Star this year. ToCruz is really good. He's the big
I mean like six six him andhim and are like one A one B.

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Yeah, like one does you're sayingwhich one was? Oh this is
Cincinnati, Oh no, this isPittsburgh. Both of them are freak show
skill set is my point. Soand when the Dodgers, well, the
Dodgers are here, and the Dodgersare got a threat to beat you.
Now listen, if you're a littleconcerned you come out of this getting swept
and then Dodgers comes down, it'snot that won't be easy either. So

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I just they're getting help from Seattle. But this is it's just disappointing.
And it was not and why arewe doing this? It's they've pitched better
and they've out hit you. Simple, they've out pitched you and out hit
you. And when you do that, you uh probably gonna lose a lot
of games. It doesn't matter ifyou're playing a team that's filled with guys

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you've never heard of. But they'rea raking in July. Now they are
driving in runs and Ray They've scoredtwelve runs in two games against the Astros.
Let's see last night, Uh JakeBloss trying to pull up his velocities
velocity. I mean it's the samething as his first time around. Velocity

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was up first couple of innings andthen it just went downhill from there and
he did not pitch. Well,we like to call it vello. Yeah,
well the vello was not good because, uh yeah, he got roughed
up. Four innings, six hits, five in runs, five k's,
one walk, thirteen hits for Oakland. They're gonna try to avoid this sweep

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today though, they game Yes,two thirty seven, the first pitch.
Yes, so you know, Imean you don't have to stay up till
midnight watching it. Yeah, yes, yeah, pretty much. Yeah,
I'm with you. That also meansMatt Thomas gets a day off. Eight
team gets a day off. Ohyeah, well there's a shocker. Go

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what do we always say country club? Country club in it. That's a
country club with no dues. Youdidn't have to pay an initiation. You
don't hear that country club? That'smust be nice, man. What if
they we woke up to stort saythe Asters are player the A's at seven
am. There's a kid's they mightas well. Nobody's showing up at night
or in the day, you mightas well as well. In Oakland,
start playing at five am so youget the game. Of it is pouring

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outside, My ass would still bein bed, I know you would be
up, probably out out in thebackyard, damn drying grass even though it's
pouring down raining. Got the gameon all four, all four screens.
The other day before the rain hit, I was out mollmegrat the sprint started
in. I had to get itcut because right now is the time to
cut. You put it in thelowest setting and cut it down low so

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it starts to grow that right now, if you're going this is this part
of the season where you cut thatgrass as low as it can. You
already see it. I've already damnright, you are Hank killed and I
got nothing on me. Have youseen? I know what he's like.
Is that thing he's talking about fromthe hill exactly? He's like obsessed with
his yard, dude, grass.Yes, Okay, when's the exact time

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to ari eate which already done andall that stuff and overseas done all that,
But now is the time when yousee somebody's grass cut really short.
And I saw one the other day. They got it cut really short and
they rolled it, which is looksso tight and sweet. And I'm like,
I almost went and bought me aroller, almost, but yeah,
because that tight, I mean itlooks and it's I know, when people
walk by, they say, well, look you're seeing some brown there.

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Why do you cut it so short? Because if if you're doing your homework,
this is the time to cut thatgrass. Give it to the lowest
level and cut it so there.Just want to fill you in on green
thumb. Get this thing ready,yeap, Obsessed isn't the word for me?
Nut Job is okay, But yeah, I was out in the rain
getting it before that rain could.Don't mow your lawn in the rain.
No, I get it done.So I need to get done so that

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water could kick in and you'd usethat use it to my advantag You gott
to mow your yard, and mowyour yard, you know what I mean,
always mow your own grass. Gotto the grass ain't always green.
The grass is green where you water. Like way back when when I had
to mold thelong growing up. Youknow, back when a hoe was a
hoe. I might have to comeback with that. Since it is Western

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Wednesday, put some respect on it. We're gonna have an Astros general manager
Dana Brown, and he joins theshow at nine thirty this morning. Let's
hear from Joe Aspata. It's anaudio from him last night after another rough
loss to the Oakland Athletics. That'snext right here on Sports Talk seven ninety
The Shawn Salisbury Show with Sewn Salisburyand Brian Lima. On Sports Talk seven

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nineties, Let's out hear from Joe'sspot on that loss. Jake bloss is
real quick. Four innings, pitch, six hits, five earned runs,
five k's, one walk. TheOakland Athletics had thirteen hits, eight runs.
They put up a two spot inthe first, one in the third,
two in the fourth, one inthe fifth, one in the sixth,
one in the seventh. Uh makingsome appearances. Sean Dubin, Seth

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Martinez, Rafael Montero, Joe Spottatalked about coming off the high after taking
two out of three from Seattle.After that loss last night. You know,
the way I look at it,we have a chance to come in
New hear them off and make ita five hundred roach, which that's what
you want to do as a team. There's no highs, no lows.
You just got to keep pushing forward. And we got a chance to come

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out here and we gotta wait amonth, all right. That's skipper Joe
spot of Sean. You want togo five hundred, that's what you want
to do as a ball club.Five hundred. No, I don't.
Well, if you go five hundredas ball club, of what happens.
They're not making a play, you'renot winning. So I mean, I
know that the goals. You knockone down, you get to the next

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one, and you go one gameover and then two games. I get
all that, but you can't.You're gonna have to play better baseball.
The trade deadline is more urgent thanever. Yeah, it is. There's
there's no more sense of urgency thenthey've had. This is his biggest sense
urgency, because if they don't,I don't know if just physically they can
survive it. On the pitching,at some point in time, you're gonna

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run into well Blanc or Sad.They're gonna run into a wall. Dude,
they just are. It's just theway it's gonna work, Because if
you're telling me you're trying to savearms when they haven't run into the wall,
what happens when they do run inthe wall? And then guess what
that feeds down to bullpen? Andif that runs into a wall, guess
what that means. You're gonna haveyour taxing them. And then you're gonna
start You're gonna you talk about mixand matches, start searching for then you're

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just gonna be looking for warm bodies, and warm bodies. Hate to tell
you this, warm bodies don't windivisions. So and while it's been a
phenomenal run to get back where theyare, and in truth, their schedule
favored them to get back into thissix games after this one will not be
as easy as you. I mean, they're talented, both of these ones

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a world Series favorite along with Philadelphia, and then the others got some young
players that are all stars that canflat ass play. So I don't know,
man, I just the at somepoint in time, you know,
we always say, well, it'sa long season, hang in there,
but they also works the other way. It's a long season. It's tough
to hang in there when three orso of your arms are going to be

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overworked, just on sheer starting andgetting pitching on just their that a point
they've never gotten to. Yep,the same conversation was had the year after
he had his great postseason and seasonin Javier the very next year that the
talk started late and say, hey, we don't want to wear Javier out
because he hasn't he's reached the threshold. Well, Raghetty's going to reach it,

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Blanco even I'm talking about in themajor league level, even Hunter Brown
himself on the major league level.Yet his body seems built for this,
right, we'll see. But italso gets to a point where if Hunter
Brown's not giving you six or sevenbut only giving you five because he's tired,
then what does that mean to DubinMartinez? Who am I leaving out?
Oh Scott? What does that meanto that bullpen? And how are

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you going to start asking a guylike a bray you to give you five
outs instead of three or two outsinstead of three, I mean a three
outs instead of two or two inningsbecause you don't now, I mean,
do you want to give Presley allkinds of work? No? You start
to see what I'm saying here,right, Yeah, it's a trickle down
effect. It just does. Thebullpen is going to be taxed if these

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starters cannot figure it out. Yeah, I don't believe you can. I
don't know if you can. Imean the tribute to their toughness, I
just don't know if physically you're gonnabe able to hang in there. I
wouldn't even you know, if Iwas Dana Brown, I wouldn't even wait.
I would have been on the horn. I mean, I know he
said he's been making calls. Iwould try to get something done like this
week before the trade deadline. Getout in front of it. I know

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it takes two to tango, whichwe said and we're going to continue to
say, but I would get outin front of it. What happens.
What happens if another arm gets tiredand on a fifteen day aisle, they're
going to be in a world ofhurt. I mean, are you do
we really expect that every single picturedid they have on this roster? Now

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I was going to make every startthe rest of the year. Is that
Is that fair enough to think thatthat is feasible that that's going to happen,
Especially with the stroke of bad luckthey've had with pictures this year.
Yeah, I don't think that's fair, just because the way they're as it's
okay, we'll get verr Lander backwhen yeah, we're going to get Louis
Garcia back all right when yeah win. So that's my point about I just

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hey, listen, I honestly thinkthat if they were able to go and
win this division like this, I'mnot sure. It's not as impressive as
he and they've had, and itdoesn't look good. The optics of are
like ugly, but impressive enough tosay how did they do this? So
you got to look at both sides, the positive like how do they do
this? But the question is canthey can you continue to survive this onslaught

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with what say in the sixty likeyou right around sixty games or right around
there, I think what did theyplayed one hundred and two games or something
something like that. You're you're aboutsixty games to go, So you do
that five starts. If you canfive starts by five pitchers, that's what
five that's twenty five games. Ino, five, five, five,
five, ten, fifteen, twentytwenty five. Yeah, that's twenty five

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games, right, Yeah, Soand then that still leaves us. So
what are we talking about? Picturesgetting about ten starts each? Yeah?
Is that about right? Yeah?Fifty and mixing a six guy at times
there about ten starts left each.Yeah, all right? And if you're
averaging five this so you're asking them, look, give me fifty to sixty
innings each? Did I just thinkthat to surviving? It's going to are

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you are? There's a bit ofa wing and a prayer saying, Okay,
Renelle Blanco's not going to miss thestart, or Hunter Brown's going to
be who Hunter? Now? Whatif Hunter Brown all of a sudden isn't
What if Hunter Brown is early HunterBrown and all of a sudden he gets
tired as good as he's frigging Ben, he looks like he looks like two
years from now being a guy atthe top of your rotation. I'm talking
about where you're running him out firstseason number one. I'm telling you right

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now, if you said Sean nextyear, looking at what you've seen from
them this year, between him andFromer, who would you run out there
first? Dude? I'm telling youright now, it's no hesitation for me
because of the late consistence. Ijust think he's set up more for it.
I think he's mentally tough for two. A lot of guys would have
wilted after the start of his season. There's something mentally tough about him.
But there's a lot of I guessI don't like going to the second half

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of season on hope. I likea little more solidified. And right now,
you're hoping you can make a trade. You're hoping nobody else gets hurt.
You're hoping you get Verlander back.You're hoping Garcia can give you something.
Mccolors isn't giving you anything. Sorry, you're not getting anything from him.
So there's a lot of hope here. And you're hoping the aarraghetti's arms
don't wear out, and you're hopingthe bullpen doesn't get used too much,
and you're hoping that you can stillget really good pitching like you have from

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Scott. The entire second half ofthe year for a guy who's seven straight
years was on seven straight teams,so he quite frankly, is either overachieved
or the other seven teams didn't havea clue. And I listen with Montero,
Dude, it's a crap shoot yourrolling dice, man. You are
your rolling dice. You're either gonnahit, You're gonna crap out, or
you're gonna get one of those whereyou get on a little bit of a
roll and he gives you a coupleof games. Right, So a lot

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of hope, and I like hope, but there's also got to be some
u And I guess there's no guarantees, but i'd sure like something a little
closer to a guarantee. I cantell you this. I can guarantee you
Jordan Alvarez is gonna hit. Yeah, those are guaranteed. But the question
of threshold and only they know morethan I do. But there's a lot
of hope when it comes to thepitching staff, and I'm just telling you
that's not the way you want tolive in with sixty games or so to

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go. Yeah, and they're havingto depend on a guy like Jake bloss
his velocity dropped once again. Let'slook at some of his starts and what's
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got to do. Man, dudes, I would expect you to brom one
three two five, seven ninety.Let's get out to the phone lines talking
about these astros and that loss lastnight. Steve, you're up first,
Good morning. This is not Steve. This is this odd body, second
class. I took one for theteam last you know a few months ago

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when when Sean said, you know, schwarked middle and then it came back
from ten games. So now,my new next prediction is they will not
win by eight games. They willnot win by eight games. That's my
next prediction, and you can bankon it. They won't win by eight
games, which means they will winby eight games. Just to decipher that,
and that's that's the play. Idon't want to listen to what you

(26:30):
say about my stupidity that I haveto do this just so they start winning
again, Thank you, Steve.Are they going to win by eight games?
Sean? What is that the division? Steve? Thank you, No,
you don't have stupidity. You don'thave to take a But this prediction
is actually spot on. They're notwinning the division by eight games. Matter
of fact, I think the divisionis going to be won the final two

(26:52):
series of the season. But Ido, and I can tell you this.
The wild Card's coming down to thefinal series or so of the season
too. So yeah, they're notsniffing an eight game win. Seattle's pitching
staff at some point keep getting They'regoing to score some runs. I'm gonna
tell you, I do not beshocked if when you get to the last
two weeks of the season, theteam you're more concerned about in the division

(27:15):
is not the Seattle Mariners, it'sthe Texas Rangers. If they're pitching,
it's somewhat healthy. Are you worriedabout evolving down the stretch logging you innings?
Absolutely not No, And I assureyou if Jacob de Gram gets back,
and I know it's an if,but if he gets back healthy and
fresh legged, because he hasn't pitchedin a while, dude at times borders

(27:40):
on unhittable. So what a bonusthat is for them? Right? Getting
if you get full on healthy?When's he schedule? Fellow Steve brought up,
but I don't know when he's scheduledto come back or what it is.
But if you do get him forsome run. The reason why I
think with the Gram and Schureser andEvaldi, you've got three and they've got

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what don't they have an all starcloser? Jacob de Gram is close to
facing hit. Who's what's their closer'sname? Again? Is it is?
It's not Kirby Yates? Is hetheir guy? Who's who's the Who's Kirby
Pits for? Theyate's the Rangers closer? Why am I losing my mind here?
Kurbyates? Come on? Now?Why why why, I mean,
and unless I just had a brainfog, there you go. He's an

(28:27):
All Star closer. So my pointis when you get those three, you
get those guys at frontline starters andyou're and you're healthy at the plate.
Yeah, and I made don't besurprised now how people talking about them sellers
ain't selling dude, would you?Yeah? Yeah, no they're not.
And what can you count on them? They know how to hit, So
do not be surprised because pitching,if they get if they get those guys

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healthy, you tell me Evaldi,Schureser and de Gram when they're going good,
don't give you a formidable top ofthe rotation. And then you've got
the closer who gets to the backend. Is is he's an All Star
closer and they're hitting blow seattles intothe water. So I just do not
be shocked if at the end theAstros are dealing with not just one team,
but two. So I think intalking about Steve, it's the division

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is not getting won by a games, The division is not getting won by
five games by any team, Andit's the wild card that you're also going
to have to worry about because that'sgoing to be settled on the last game
because that American League East and theAmerican League Central his brutal Yes, And
and regardless of what you think aboutthe teams, the Twins and the Cleveland,
they're going to be hanging around,and hell, you're going to the

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Red Sox are playing. That's exactlyright. A team we don't even talk
about that made you, the Royals, made you have to win five or
six at the end of the yearto have a chance, because they put
your ass in a sling at theend of the season when we expect to
go in there and beat an averageteam last year or below average team which
this year is playing better baseball.And with's a player, it's really good.
He's a player. Let's get toAndy real quick before we get a

(29:55):
break and morning. Besides you obviousand I hit runs in the last seven
games. But the last time hedidn't have a starter, he went by
bullpen by committee and they won.His bullpen was rested before last night.
Why the hell didn't go bullpen bycommittee again? I mean, my goodness,

(30:15):
king in Montaro two on the twentysecond of the game, before one
inning each and before that, Imean Scott in the last three games had
pissed a third of an inning,Martinez one point one innings, Duba one
inning, King Montaro one inning each, and a Brayhu Prestin Hard hadn't thrown

(30:36):
for three days. Now. I'msorry, it's bullpenn by committee. I
mean it worked last time. Tellme why he didn't do it this time.
You know, I don't have anyanswers for Andy. They're trying to
find They're trying to find a starter, Andy, that's why. Yeah,
No, they're trying. Yeah,but Shan, you know how hard it

(30:57):
is for these guys coming up.Yes, it is brutal. They're kind
to find a starter and open yourpocketbook, I mean the injury and say
open your pocket book and go findthe starter. They have to You're not
gonna You're not gonna do it intriple A or double A. That ain't
gonna happen. But we're trying towin games here. I mean his bullpen

(31:19):
was not I mean Bopen was fresh. It's a horrible call because it was
a week ago. He bullpen bycommittee and they got the victory. W's
is what we're searching. You gottahave WS. I mean you're two and
four and you're gonna start a guyyou're bringing up that. That's a bone

(31:42):
headed decision, especially with your bullpenis very rested. It just makes me
save in my head, he's horrible. I just can't handle him as a
head coach. Andy, Thanks Andy, fired up this morning. The bats

(32:02):
are the bats are? He isreeling a fair word the last three games.
Yeah, I would say, yeah, a little bit, but it's
the I get his argument, butthey are trying to find they're trying to
find it. And Andy's one hundredpercent correct on you have to go get
I don't even know, Brian,if you can just go get an innings
eater. No, you can't.I think you have to get a You

(32:22):
have to now you have to havesomebody to deal with if you really want
to be a World Series contender.Bregman's leaving at the end of this year,
right, well, at least whenwe say most likely, unless they
else said, well, I payhim three hundred. So if he leaves,
you're you're looking at windows again.The window there, it's open,
but you continue to lose frontline starters. Guess what happens. There will come

(32:45):
a time when you missed the playoffs. And got a regroup. Yeah,
there will come in. Now isnot that time, but I can now
missing the playoffs. It's as reelas anything. If you don't get this
thing solidified, yeah you can't.It's I don't think you can go get
a fifth starter. I think youhave to if you are, and it'll
tell you what kind of guy toget, how they think about their team.
Right. If you don't go geta guy, and maybe when I

(33:07):
say overpay, you may have togive up some of these things a little
more than you wanted to. Ifyou think you're a World Series team.
See, I'm with you, youand I've always thought alike like this,
I'm not worried about twenty twenty nine. Yeah no, now yeah, yeah,
if you think now right now,If you're the Oakland Age, you're
you're just you're just trying to bethe eliminator. See what you got and
do all right, and what happensat the trade deadline. You're just trying

(33:27):
because that's who the A's always are, and then every now and then they'll
sneak in and make the playoffs.But if you're the Astros who think it's
not just plaus it's World Series orbus right. So if you're still thinking
that, I don't think the pitchingstaff right now healthier good enough to not
think, I know it's not healthiergood enough to go get a fifth starter
and hope your way into a WorldSeries. If you're really serious about this,

(33:50):
you're gonna have to overpay and goget a front leg a guy that's
in the top three, not theback three. Makes sense, Ye,
I believe that. I don't thinkone arm's enough. No, it's not
enough because in truth, as Seth, Martin, Tenis and Scott when you
go into this season, he said, I'm relying on those two and Duban
those three. If I told youthat in spring wild Jews looked at me
and said, I said those threeare going to be have to be horses
this year, you would have said, Shawn on crack, Yeah, it's

(34:13):
exactly what. I'm not disrespectful themjust right. No, you would have
said that to me, and,knowing Montero's history last year, said I
can't count on him every day inhigh leverage situations. Wouldn't you have looked
at me in the face and said, then, I guess I won't see
you in the playoffs, right,What the hell hapens. That's what we're
lying. You have to if youthink you're a World Series team, then
then you've got to go get it. And in truth, if they just

(34:35):
kind of get a guy, it'lltell you they don't think they're a World
Series team. I believe that,don't you. We're gonna we're gonna hope
that everybody gets right and get somehealthy guys back. Let's keep on discussing
the trade deadline for the Astros.Next in sports, TLOK seven ninety,
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean Salisbury Show. That

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was his third big league start sofar in his big league career. Four
innings pitched. Excuse me, thiswas in his third big league start.
Four innings, six hits, fiveand runs, four bombs, one walk,
five K, seventy seven pitches,fifty four strikes, thirty nine swings,
eleven whiffs. The A's averaged aninety two point one mile proor exit
velocity on the thirteen balls they putin play. Bloss's velocity dropped throughout the

(35:22):
fourth inning. His ZRA is nowa six point nine to four. So
those are his numbers for his threestarts. Combined. No, just for
his which was his third right okay, but his first big league start,
the velocity dropped just like it didyesterday, and he had to he was
shut down from throwing, had togo through a little bit of rehab and

(35:45):
things like that. So I don'tknow, Just you know, the Astros
are kind of running out out ofoptions when it comes to having starters.
You obviously won him because you're highon him to try to fill in while
you're dealing with these injuries. Butyet I hate that he's not getting it
done. He's not ready yet.No, he's you're crow barring him in

(36:06):
because you need to. Yeah,exactly, you're crow barring him in because
you need to. And this isa team that needs to go find somebody
that's not a crowbar, that's justan automatic fit you have. They're they're
gonna make a trade, and it'snot gonna I don't think it can just
be for a warm body. Ijust don't. And I'm sure Bloss this
is great experience and it sucks whileyou're going through it. I'm sure he's
learning Ian studying and learning every singlepitch. Okay, this is saying is

(36:30):
that this is tough, and itis tough. We've all known that,
but that's not going to be thedifference in getting you over the top.
He's not going to be yet,and he isn't ready and you're crowbarring him
into the lineup because you need himinto the rotation. You just are,
and his opportunity will. I mean, he looks like he's got a bright
future right now, the dimmer switchis hit because he's just not it's he's

(36:52):
not ready now. It's one ofthose you're hoping you this is a learn
on the job in a hurry stufffor him. That's what it's come.
Yeah. And then also when youroffense manages to score just two runs against
Oakland, no question about it,it's not gonna bode well for a victory.
They were what I say earlier,two for two for eleven, Yeah,

(37:14):
two for eleven with runners in scoringposition, leaving on seven men.
Day before yesterday you had the teamleaving eight on on base and going one
for six. So that's three forseventeen in two games with runners in scoring
position. That won't beat many people, including a forty win forty one win
team Oakland Ace. Yeah, elevenasDiaz got a pinch hit yesterday struck out.

(37:37):
He is now hitting point zero nineone. Chasmo got a pinch hit
over yeah in two two ah JoeChucky, Yeah, Chaz Man has not
swung it. Well. Do youthink his name when he was born is
Charles or Chuck? And it gotto you know how you kid around say,

(37:57):
oh, let's call him Chaz becauseit's just kind of a fun nickname.
Or do you think he was bornChazz and so when we want to
give a nickname, we call himChuck. Let's see, you know,
like, was Chuck Morris Chuck Norrisborn Chasmo Chaz? Or was it he
called him Chaz just like Chucky CharlesCHAZU is Chaz Chaz? He was born
as Chaz. Caine McCormick, Ohnice, c C. McCormick, Yeah

(38:23):
nice. So yeah, I justdidn't know if it was so Caine with
a sea or ka kay? Ohso c K. McCormick. Yes.
Then why did you say when Isaid ce C McCormick you said yeah,
because I thought it was uh yeah, yeah, but it's Kate and brown
with a ky, yes both.So, So he was born Chaz.
That's not born Chazz. Yes,and his last name's Fizz Chay Fizz the

(38:50):
Millersville Oh what happened to him?Do we need to get him to open
his stance like Jazz? Like gotclose off already? Yeah? I was
gonna say, do we need toget him too open just as big as
he was closed? Maybe to starthitting. You figured out he's not as
a league, right, he sacrificedthe live chicken or something. I don't
know. Why do you hate animalstoo? No, that's from from the
movie Major League. I think youhate animals. Oh, here we go,

(39:15):
isn't that? What's our big guy'sname that did it? What's his
name in the movie Pedro Serno?Yeah, Surno. That well, he
wanted to do and they got hima bucket of CAFC yep, which in
reality I mean that. I meanit's the same thing, isn't it,
except he just didn't do it himself. Yeah. Let somebody else do it?
Yeah? Right, you can't sacrifice? You hate kids? You hate

(39:35):
chick? What I love grilled chicken? It's incredible. You hate animals?
No love? Don't you think it'sincredible? Triple how much hate he has
in his heart? Don't don't don'tfeed into it. Chazzy Fizz and God
Tripley's answering the phone. Chazzy WhoChazzy Fizz Chaz McCormick also known as Chazzy
Fizz, Oh for one last night? Did that? Where did that come
from? Chazzy Fizz? Yeah,I don't know. Where's the origination of

(39:59):
that. Chazzy Fizz and Oh it'sa Chazzy Fizzle product shizzle. Yeah,
it's a lyric. Yeah, it'slyrics, lyrics and a cut. Yeah,
it's I think a Missy Elliott songs. I must have missied that one
shizzle something like that lyrics. Igot him? All right, thanks,
appreciate the filling, doc. Yeah, maybe not. It's a jazzy Fizzle

(40:23):
product shizzle, That's what it is. Oh so you just tell you yeah
jazzy Yeah, yeah, all right, got you. Yeah. You know
where I found that? It's theSnoop Dogs. No, I found it
from. H Oh that's right.It was from Sierra's One two Step.
Yeah, one of my favorites.Yeah. I went to, uh,
you know the gospel jazzy Fizzle productshizzle. Dude, when I watched that'll

(40:45):
need to get off this week talkabout the Astros. But when I watched
Bregman run, he was pulling.He was pulling a tractor trailer. He
got but do what I watch it? He got? Do what I watch
your It's the I feel like he'sworking against his body once he's trying to
go forward, but his arms areso wide it's kind of slowed him down.

(41:07):
It's one of the funniest things inthe world watching him run. He
looks so in in gold Member,the Austin Powers gold Member. Oh yeah,
when when we when the little guyhas Mike Myers on his back and
he's walking around little Leg's upper bodyand he's got his arms, He's like,
hey, how you doing? What'sgoing on? That's that's Bregnant running.

(41:27):
It is that he got plucked atthe plate last he got host.
Yeah, all right, let's getit into the seven o'clock hours. Seven
seven ninety is the number to join. We're gonna have to talk about this
trade deadline. The Astros cannot affordto not go get a starter and by
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(41:51):
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Salsbury, Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury, the USC Troupes,
longtime friend, Sewn Salisbury, RyanLima, go Lobos. This is the
Sean Salsbury Show. This trade deadline, which is less than a week away.

(44:29):
Sean, we hit on a littlebit earlier, earlier in the six
o'clock hour. But man, it'snot just one starter. They're going to
have to try to go get two. This trade deadline is going to be
massive. I'm not I don't wantto be hyperbolic with this stuff, but
I'm trying to think back to lastyear's trade deadline. The most significant one

(44:52):
they ever made was Verlander in thatone. Right that deal. It ended
up the significance of what happened.It was significant also when they went and
got Zach Greenky because they gave upfive prospects for him, right, and
he's been a hell of a prodon't misunderstand me, but that was a
significant one. I'm trying to thinklast I mean, the World Series year

(45:14):
was that Graveman? Or was thatthe one they missed? And two years
ago? Where was Graveman? Theyear before that? That trade you know
when they went out with the Gravemanwas twenty two and then because they brought
Graveman back last year from released,so it was twenty twenty two, yeah,
because he signed so yeah, sohe Graveman comes here in twenty twenty
two, then he goes to theWhite Sox in early twenty twenty three on

(45:35):
a free agent deal and they tradefor him Corey Lee this past season.
Yeah. So I'm just trying toget the time out of the year those
certain trade One Montero was brought here, right, and I'm thinking about the
trades that brought players here that okay, since two thousand said the difference making
trades that either worked for you ordidn't. Right, they didn't make a
huge splash or did because James Clickwas the GM they at the trade deadline.

(46:00):
This is so I'm thinking of lastyear's trade deadline, which would have
been Dana Brown's first. Right here, he's a GM. What do we
do last year's trade dead That's whatI'm pulling up. So Astros traded for
Justin Verlander. They gave away DrewGilbert and Ryan Clifford, two of their
top prospects. That was last yearended in a non world series. But

(46:22):
close. Okay, yeah, letme just trying to scroll through. I
mean this list I have is literallyevery move that was made. Yeah,
So the point being is that itwasn't significant. Why because I think a
lot of people think Drew Gilbert isgoing to be a star. Right,
hasn't even played the season, That'swhat I'm saying, heard, right,
but they think he's gonna, Imean, has star qualities. He's what

(46:42):
people actually people are now people arehirer on Ryan or Ryan Clifford than they
are they are And when you gaveaway two guys like that, but when
Gilbert was drafted, they're like,oh my gosh, and so you went
got Verlander. Now that injury soin truth did it while it helped last
year because Verlander's but as we sittoday, yeah, then the Astros acquire

(47:04):
Kennel Grayman's exactly. So you've gota couple of KG veterans and gave up
a bunch of good young players,right so you can you can look at
that down the road. It mayyou may say, Man, we gave
up those players, those three cats, and but right now for what they
wanted. I get why they didit for Verlanders, Okay, yeah.
And then in twenty twenty two,the Astros, yeah, traded for Trey

(47:25):
Mancini, Christian Vasquez and Will Smith. And Vasquez was a good part of
this team. We remember, wewanted him back the next yees and uh
Mancini. The story was awesome.It was great to have me. He
wasn't overly productive, but he madea defensive piece, he sure did.
And what a great dude. Andthis the whole story. Just a good
dude and was solid right but notyou didn't get like over popped that he

(47:51):
you know, a bunch of popat first base, he did, but
still a hell of a pro anda hell of a story, right yeah,
all right, So looking at itnow, can you not tell me
that the significance of this deadline isso is big? Yeah, because what

(48:12):
it also is gonna takes twofold.You've got a chance to go possibly if
somebody is dealing with you, goget that one guy who may or two
guys that may take you over thetop, but you also have to understand
if they don't, and you haveto and you go get two guys that
you think are gonna take you overthe top or one guy guess. So
that's gonna mean you're gonna you're gonnamortgage some of this franchise with some players.

(48:35):
You're gonna have to give something ofme, right, So this,
the significance of this is huge inthe next week, and I would imagine
Dana Brown will have them on againat nine thirties. We do every Wednesday.
The significance of this has got achance to be quite big one way
or the other. And the everyday that goes by and when you watch
it tells me, I know youwere thinking more leaning towards you think it's

(48:58):
gonna be more of a mid sexyinnings eater. Right, that's what we
talked about yesterday. I don't seehow you can win a world series with
just a guy. I don't.I eventually think they're still gonna hit I
do. I look at the lineup, and I think they're just too good
not to hit right. And atsome point Kyle Tucker is gonna play unlike

(49:19):
the arm stuff, you're not havingsurgery in and he's gonna play. So
with that, the question is howlong is it get started and how much
power is he gonna have and ishe gonna play at eighty percent or they're
gonna wait till he's ninety eight percent. But the arm thing, but when
you even ask here, even theWorld Series, they don't believe they can
win a World Series with the arms. Right now. He's told us that
we're a postseason team right now.Some to be a World Series team,

(49:43):
something's got to be done right andhe said it, and they're gonna do
everything they can when somebody says that, And Dana Brown, I'm saying heat
when he says that, isn't everythingyou can mean. And I asked him
if it did sting and what didhe say? Yeah, it's probably we're
probably gonna have to sting. Wheneveryou make a move to get somebody,
it's gonna hurt a little, right, it may hurt a little more than
a little. Yeah, if you'regonna get what you want. Well,

(50:04):
I mean, if they they're gonnatry to go get what they want or
try to make a splash, they'regonna have to give up something and it's
gonna hurt. It is, sohow much is it gonna hurt? That's
why I'm saying this is the hurtfactor? Right. The significance of this
trade deadline could be pretty significant.It's gonna be big. It's gonna have
to be. If they don't domuch, I think you're gonna see a
little bit of, oh, thefrustration. The optics of it, well,

(50:27):
that's not the most important thing.The optics of it is gonna matter
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now with that fresh leather scent.First on Sports Talk seven ninety All right,
Sean, what are you hearing outthere now? The Salsbury takeouts Salsbury
Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Shows.Starve for the steak out here on the

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Seawan Salisbury show is a steak itout dog. Look at me? I
mean, have you seen me?Do you know anything about the money maker?
Can confirmed? You think that's amajor flaw in the company this this

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isn't on We're not on TV forfor four hours. Major flaw. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, you're I mean, why would you deny the money
maker? You know what I'm saying? Do you feel me or not?
I'm feeling you, dog, eh, I see it. Cameras they could
see we're pointing to our faces,right, I know you feel me?

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You know I triple you feel meon that you don't want to, but
I'm putting it on. That's likehaving a Ferrari. Keep it in the
garage, dog man, you knowwhat, So what are you supposed to
do with the Ferrari? Rev upthe engine, a letter rip like the
like the classically chevy summer. Yougot to keep the money maker going,

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man, don't deny the people themoney maker. Start Roger real quick for
you, Roger, Roger Roger,Hello, good morning, gentlemen. Uh
So, I wonder if it's it'seasier for the ASTROS organizations to say to

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make up a creative excuse us towhy not, we can't pull off the
trade this year and just start allover again. Make sure rather than trying
to make up for a lotger listof injuries you've got, says Archidi.
You've got Luis Garcia, you gotFerlander, Tucker Pavier. That's just too

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much to try and trade for.Uh and and and try and try to
win a get it yet. Ijust don't see it happening with I think
if I would have already been done. Uh. If I's so, I
mean, mister Brown can Dana Browncan go ahead and play the happy,
the likable politician all he wants andand and and try to tell us you

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know who's closed, who's not,who's doing uh baseball activities and who's not,
and how how how much better it'sit's getting or or whatever. But
it's just I don't see it happening. I don't see any progress at all.
I'm not saying any any progress.I'm not hearing any progress as far

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as when they're coming back or orwhatever. I'm just I think it's better.
It's easier for them, or itwould be easier for them to say
make it, tell us why youcan't go off the trade, rather than
try to fix it and and getget some trades going and try to cover

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up all those injuries. I buton you know, but on the floor
side, I think that they didpretty well for what they had. I
mean, that's a lot to doabout. Hey, Roger, what what
do you what kind of when itcomes to trades. I understand the injuries,
the frustration that we're like, where'sthe progress? It's the same thing
over and you know, and Iunderstand they're protecting the players and I get

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all that, But when it comesto trades, what kind of I mean,
they can't put names out there,what kind of Uh you're not hearing
anything? What should we be hearing? I mean, let's put on me
and you were the GMS for asecond. I shouldn't be hearing anything.
We should be seeing trades, whichis already. Oh, you wanted the
trade happen. Anything you wanted tohear you hang on a second. You

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want to hang on a second.So you wanted the trades done before the
deadline. You want it done moreurgent. So you're not in a,
let me say, desperate situation.The closer you get that, you think,
the more competition and and other teamsinvolved. You wanted this done,
not not up to the deadline.You wanted these trades done before the deadline,
is what you're You wanted more movementearlier, right because it was happening.

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You had two guys in the lineupthe other day that don't belong on
a baseball team, McCormick and AG. And then last night, you know,
you got pol boss out there throwingbatting practice. I mean, it's
just you know, it is whatit is. I mean, come on,
that's that kind of desperation moves rightthere. But I mean, if

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it would have worked, it wouldhave been great. But you know,
yeah, and here's for me.You can't be losing. You can't be
losing games in the in the ina crutch time to the teams. Like
the the one thing I think peopleget caught, well the deadline's coming that
you have to make deals like atthe eleventh hour. You can make a
deal yesterday, you can make adeal a month ago. Yeah, I

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get it. And I know whilesome well we're going to be in a
holding pattern. We want to knowfor a buyer, a seller meeting other
teams that are close but don't knowif they're a world series team. So
I do get that it takes twoto tangle, but also you just think
that they've been that you wanted earliermovement. I get it, manuries A
long time, yeah, a longtime. There you go, brother,

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appreciate a good point. Thanks foryou too, but thank you now.
I don't expect I never expect transparencyfrom any team, not just you're any
team in any sport on injuries.Unless a guy's knee is blown out or
you're out for the season, Heywe're getting surgery. When it's the tweener
where you're not getting surgery but you'restill hurt or injured, and they're not

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giving you all the details. Youknow what, this is the only organization
that does that. Everybody does that. Well, when a guy gets surgery
around his knee, you have tosay he had surgery on his knees out
for seven months or whatever, right, yeah, eight months, whatever it
is. But when it comes tothis, the Tucker and Verlander, would
you expect anything else at their dayto day Well, a couple of weeks
away and they're doing you're not gonnaif you're looking for full on get all

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your answers when it comes to injuries, never gonna happen at any point in
time. And this this this franchiseis particularly protective over that. Yeah,
and you're not going to get thatfrom them, Absolutely not. And Also
I understand Roger wants some trades tobe happening already, but it's just not
gonna happen because other teams don't knowwhat they have just yet or what they
were they to do going forward iftheir close. We're a playoff team.

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We're not a playoff team. Andthen one thing, free agency is one
thing you could just outprice everybody andpay them. When it comes to trades,
you got to start to deal withalso, and it's not just the
other teams. Don't you think theassos are still sitting around saying do we
want to part with Joey low perfitoor are we willing to do you?
I mean those questions sitting around atable I'm sure get asked every day.
Correct. Yeah, So those arethings you got to say. I mean,

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like I said, before Corey Leewas traded, would you have thought
a month before that he was gettingtraded last year? No, cause two
months before that you thought he wasthe catcher of the future. Next thing,
would you have thought Drew Gilbert wasgetting traded for Verlander. Nope,
So those decisions just didn't come.I'm sure you're consulting when it comes to
Verlander. Well, mister Crane,what do you want to do with right?

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I mean, what are we willingto pay? What are we want
to move? We just drafted theguy in the high are we gonna let
him go? Already? And wegot these So it's not just the other
teams, but I think we allwant to and I think kind of maybe
paraphrasing also what Roger's saying is wouldit be nice to I guess we all

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want to know. Is there asense of urgency? Are they really?
Are they moving as urgent as wewant them to? But it's never as
when you need urgency. It's neveras urgent as you want it to as
a fan, And it just doesn'thappen that way, unfortunately, because you're
working on somebody else's time, right, And that's the problem. But I
do get why we're all like,come on, come on, let's go,
we need to get this done.But while you're navigating through it,

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it's tough to get everybody on thesame page. And what you're going to
do. There will be a movehappening, and who knows when, but
it'll happen, but you never It'snever soon enough for you when you think
you need one through all the injuries. Earlier, CBS Sports putting out an
article this morning on the trade deadlinefor Major League Baseball. In this article,
they talk about the Astros seeking bigarms. Who could be those big

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We were off the show when Igot that message. We'll give it
to him today. But hey,Ryan, ain't nothing that a beer cane
fix. You know it ain't nopain, It can't what right? Washa?
What I guess you start? Youeven jumped into some harmond and I
liked it? Yeah? Why areyou so down on Josh Party? I
like John Party. He's good.Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. What

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if, oh what if the astrosneed a couple of beers? Well,
ain't nothing that a base hit can'tfix my goods with a rudder and scory
position. What they need to dois stick a spindle tap on second base.
Why you don't even drink spindle tap? Get the hell out of here.
You've been to my house? Hasthat got spintle tap on the dog?
When you walk in the house.It's like a carpet. Okay,

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it is spindle tap everywhere, spillrefrigerator's got it in it, at the
crib, at this crisib Okay,but yeah, put it on a second
base. Maybe you could drive ina spittle tap so a beer can fix
it. Well, if that's thecase, they probably won't even get the
second base. What what for aguy who's cut of my house and drank
all my beer? You got alot of guts to say. Look,

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I've I made crushed a couple ofh spindle tap, Houston hustles, whatever
they're called. Yeah, there's alot of them that might might have crushed
a couple of them. Think it'stime for the unpaved Mexican beer from spindle
Tap? What's for me? What'sthe one that I had that's like ten
percent alcohol? Oh? You hadthe uh? You had the uh,
there's two of them. You hadthe pain killer. There you go.

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You had the pain killer. Ohyeah, I'll tell you to kill a
little. Hey, hey, suredid remember from the moment that it hits
you, ain't no pain. Theycan wash away and wash it away,
damn right quick? Seven three sevenoney triple le. By the way,
did you hear me singing that cutdog go a whole country on your eye?
The vote? Feel pretty good aboutit? Yeah, thank you,
Good night, Brandon, welcome in. Hey guys, good morning. One

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of the chime in on the tradetalk to as well. I'm kind of
at the point, you know nowwhere it's like, you know, you
couldn't afford really go to Oakland anddrop too in a row now, but
you're starting to see kind of acatch up a little bit with you guys.
Mentioned how much those injuries have impactedthe team so much. And if
you look at Jake Bloss and ofcourse Irrigetty, while they've been nice stories
and kind of bandates for the team, it's not going to get you over

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the hump to win another championship orat least win another pennant. I mean,
those guys are still need some moreseasoning at the minor league level.
It's really testing your farm system rightnow with the limited arms you have in
that system too to bring guys up, you know, skipping different classifications of
Triple A or a Double A goright to the big leagues and things like
that. So a little bit moreseasoning for those guys would would definitely help.
But I think that the impact moveis there for the take and it's

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going to hurt, as Jay Seanhas said, it's gonna sting, no
doubt, to give up you know, proven major league talent to get a
couple of pieces in there. ButI re least think of that, and
I think the perfect fit for meof the perfect move would be at Garrett
Crochet and maybe eloid him Inez.That's if the White Socks are moving him
in as in a deal. Whatyou give up on the back side of
it, We'll see what happens.But I think some of the best deals,
as we saw last year, ifthe trade deadline is all know,

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it comes down to being patient andyou kind of striking when the fire's hot.
And sometimes as a general manager,you've got to be patient. You've
got to wait because teams, thegeneral managers of other teams will lower their
cost what they're asking for in returnto make a deal come to trade deadline.
That's why there is a deadline atthat two or three o'clock on that
exact day. But I'm with youguys on the impact move Starting pitching has
to be the area of need forthis team. And I'll hang up and

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listen, Hey, real quick,real quick, Brandon, Look, can
I can I make you the GMand put you on the spot for a
second, go for it? Yeah, because it sounds like you, I
mean, you're locked in, myman, So I try to get I
like other people's opinion on this yearthe GM. We're sitting in there and
Brian and I are sitting there andkind of manager and your owner making a
decision on what you like. Whoare you giving up to get Garrett Crochet.

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Well, you know, it comesdown to, you know those pieces
y'all talked about in the major leaguetalent. It's either a McCormick or a
Myers that has to go with oneof those pieces, you know, the
White Sox. I mean, howcan you not look at at Jacob Milton
and then I know that's the numberone outfield prospect right in the system right
now too. I hate to sayone of those guys like a Jake Bloss
would have to be in the deal. I hate to say that, but
there's a young piece for the Socksto build around, a young rotation.

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I'm kind of a little bit,a little bit perturbed a little bit and
why they would even consider Crochet withtwo more years of control. But if
you're Houston and you don't want arental type player, it's gonna cost you
to get guys with control for thenext two or three years. And Crochet
is a frontline, top notch starter, which gives you a chance to be
playing late in the postseason, ifnot the World Series. Right, absolutely,

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Yeah, to fend off Seattle forthe West, yeah, no doubt.
And Texas isn't going away, andyou know, Brandon Texas isn't.
The Rangers are not going away.They're not going away. Yep. So
that's a great point, man,make a lot of great points. And
I think that I think we're gettingcloser to a splash move than we are
just a warm body. Good stuff, Brandon, Thanks for the call,
brother, appreciate it. The Meltonthe low perffdo Now, now somebody is

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going to inquire more about Jake Myersand Chas McCormick. Don't you agree.
I think they're alread getting calls onJake Myers. You partner with him Jake
Myers, I would for I mean, if you got low Perfido and you
can keep low braffido, I thinkyou throw him in this innerfield and you
just run with it. If ifyou have to give up Jake Myers,
Jake Myers solid player, Will heever be a star in the league?
No? Okay, then you gotto part with him for a star pitcher?

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Correct, that's all about If that'spart of the d If you are
trying to win now and Jake Myersis called upon and you can get him
in a deal to try to goget a frontline starter, you do it.
Yeah. I was gonna say Ican't let Jake Myers be the piece
that doesn't let the deal go through. Yes, that makes sense. He's
got to be the piece that,if it happens, the deal has to
go through. Jake Myers is hittingtwo thirty six the point an ops of

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seven to sixteen and plays good defense. Yeah, it's had some timely hits
this. Yeah, but I cantell you this, that can't be the
one that you say, No,that's the deal breaker. No, that's
the deal. If that's the onethey say, Okay, all this,
we're close, give me Jake Myers. You know what you do? Okay,
that's right, Yeah you do.If you can go get a Garrett
Crochet or I mean it would takethe farm I think to go get schoobl

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from Detroit. But if you canget either of those guys and Jake Myers
is included in that package, orChasm Formerk or both gone, yeah,
have fun for you. Who playsa better center field over the long haul
the next five years. Let's saylow Berfito's here and you think he's gonna
just defense, that's all I'm talkingabout. Huh, low Brafito or Kyle
Tucker. You get where I'm goingwith this right, Yeah, who would

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play better there as Tucker's you're saying, we're not moving him, keep him
at the corner outfitter, and putlow Perfito in centerfield in centerfield at this
stage, Yeah, that's what I'msaying. Yeah, would you where?
Would you suffer more? I don'tthink you suffer either way? Do you
know Tucker could? I think Tuckercould play gold glove centerfield because I think
said range, he cover a lotof ground. Yes, and I also

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think low Perfedo, who's we knowcan run, we know he can play
corner out but both can do both. So I don't think you suffer.
I'd like the younger body covering moreground a centerfield and keep Tucker in right
field, although Tucker's not old.That's that's why I do it. So
if you have to part with JakeMyers, you tell me if you if
Jake, if if Dana Brown,who said unequivocally on this without hesitation,
he's not he'll take ground balls atfirst base he's an outfielder, meaning low

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Perffido, Then if he's an outfielder, if I had to clear the way
and put him at centerfield every day, I'm good with it. Yeah,
so am I no problem? Seewhat you got out there? I agree
because I'm with you. You cannotif there is a deal in place and
Jake Myers is available to be traded, you can't let him be the guy
that stops the trade to go getyou a frontline starter. You cannot be

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so enamored with him. If that'sthe case, he can't be the reason
you don't make the d If it'sthe missing piece for somebody, he's got
to be reason you do make thedeal. If that's the case, I
would agreed. I mean, whynot agreed? Yeah, you can find
you know, I can survive withoutMyers or McCormick. I'ms just saying it
sounds are harsh, but I can'tbecause you know what, if I,
let's say two different teams came in, you had to get rid of both

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of them because you have a surplusof outfielders. I got no issue platooning.
You're not out there, but stillDham. I can put Dubon in
one of the two places. Ican play low Perfito in Tucker in centerfield,
and right when Tucker seld he theproblem is, and right now,
can't you put Cabbage in the outfield. Yeah, he always playing right field,
That's my point. I can puthim in either corner outfield right when

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Tucker comes back, I can stickCabbage and left if I want, put
low Perfito in center and platoon Dubonat six positions or five positions. So
I'm not losing, oh my gosh, if I have to play. Matter
of fact, I think there's alot of people like to play them every
day anyway. Yeah, and Cabbagehas got some That's a big bodied kid
who can move around, right,I say, kay, I mean who
And he seems to have a littlebit of power or in the bat too.

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If he played every day, heneeds reps yep. And at bats
they have a surplus a outfielder,so they do. And if there's one
of those is going, I believe. I think. I just don't think
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continues, but soccer kicking off theOlympics this morning. The Astros obviously trade
deadline coming up. We've been talkingabout it all morning long. They struggled
yesterday, like I said, tryingto avoid the sweep. Excuse me.

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CBS Sports putting out an article thismorning talking about that trade deadline, and
they had a quote in here fromAstrows general manager. He said, quote,
try to go big and see ifthere's a deal that makes sense for
the organization. If that doesn't work, we'll go down to the mid level
and hopefully we can land something there. But it doesn't hurt to ask when
you go through this and ask,ask and now shall receive. Sometimes we
want to try to go big andif we can't get the big thing done,

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we'll try to go mid level sowe can get through this end quote
that was from Dana. That's fromDana Brown, Downtown, Dana Brown.
Yep, I look forward to ourconversation at nine. Yeah, that's coming
up at nine thirty. So Iguess, like, who were the big
names when it comes to starters?Well, then the Chicago's got the note,

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especially teams that would move on somethingbecause when out very good, that's
where you may get more than oneplayer. The White Sox starts there.
I'll tell you a team that Idon't hear anything about. But you wonder
what is Toronto gonna do? Yeah, it's good question. We're not hearing.
Yes, what are they going todo? What's their other starter's name?
Obviously Lair Jr. Is the wayyou're talking about. You're talking about

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the pitcher. Yeah, what's hisname? You're talking about the righty.
Yeah, we've got the weird kickin his stances, A who's always a
cys uh Kevin Gos. There yougo. But It's so weird because they
are in a position where they're ina brutal division. They're talented, but

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not they're underachievers. Especially when itgets to the postseason, they just are.
So you think, what will theydo? Are they just going to
keep riding this thing out? Atwhat point do you say, well,
Springer or or a pitcher, Kakuchior Gosman or Vlad girl got to go
if you're put of this, ifyou're willing to move Guerreo, you're willing

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to move anybody. And by theway, even after his start, guess
who was starting first basement the AllStar Game. Vlad Garreral was so and
he's in his twenties, he's gotgame and in this lineup, it'd be
really fun to see him, right, Yeah, it'd be great. I
don't that's a team that no,I don't hearn abody talking about when it

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comes to that, right, theMets always seem even though the Mets are
hanging around, they always seem tobe a team that we talk about at
the trade deadline. Always is Tampawilling to part with some of their stuff?
Is are the Texas Rangers a weekand a half ago, two weeks
ago the Rangers. The talk wastext Rangers willing to give up tw or
three pitchers. I can't see thatnow, three games out of first place,

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why would you? And you're battlingfor back to back. You don't
want to tell your fan base wewon the World Series last year. Bruce
Bochi's our manager, we got allthese bats, will get healthy. Jacob
de Grom's coming back. Let's partways. And we're only three games out
of first place. I don't thinkyou can do that when you're trying to
go win a second one in arow. Right, if it was three
games, if there was three yearsin between the last World Series, and
you're starting to go downhill, right, I can't If the Astros or buyers,

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why wouldn't the Rangers be makes sense? Yeah? Okay, So then
you go to what's San Francisco gonnado? I'm just I'm just the White
Sox for sure. Apparently the Cubslook like they're a team that's gonna do
it. The the the Yankees,the Red Sox, the Orioles, they're
all gonna look for another body.Yeah, even as good as a team

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like the Dodge. I'm telling younow, the Dodgers and the Orioles and
the Philadelphia Phillies. Do you reallythink that they're not still looking for another
piece to whatever puzzle they got?You say, why would they be?
Yea, Jeff Passing put out anarticle yesterday and I did not see it.
Yeah, the Dodgers are all inand they're gonna be eyeing big names.
Why wouldn't you. You brought thatup yesterday? Yeah, I did,
And before his article came out thistime in the morning, it was

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it's the same thing in Philly.It's the same. See, when you're
good teams, you put your youdon't just put your foot close to the
throat, you put it on thethroat and you twist Baltimore, the Phillies,
the Dodgers. Why wouldn't you.So there's some teams that are hovering
that you say, well, Imean, if you're Toronto, when are
you going to crap or get offthe pot with your team? Yeah?

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The underperforming every single exactly, SoI don't. And then you know in
the division, you're not going toget anybody dealing with you if you're the
Astros. So you've got to lookat and he mentioned Alloya him Andez right,
did he not? Didn't Brandon mentionedthat? Yeah? Now think about
this, what if you could pulloff a crochet and him for a couple

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I mean, that's that big moveyou're looking for. The White Sox got
some big move guys. You knowwhat it is. They've got pieces that
are really good. They've got thethe the the sum is far worse than
the parts. Yeah, okay,the Detroit talks come up? Do you
believe it? That's going to beuh tark schoobl Schools eleven and three season.

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And he's a filthy, filthy,filthy left hand lefty. He's nasty.
So but it's gonna take a haul, of course it is, and
it should. So you look aroundand say, where are you going with
this? Well, we just nameda bunch of teams that that have it.
I just am always intrigued with Torontoand what they're gonna do. And
you know what I heard that?I heard the Dodgers were in on a

(01:18:23):
Rose arena. Yeah I saw thatas well. And so are they gonna
Oh it is okay, So arethey going to go in on? Are
they going to go? So?If a rose arena and you've heard talk
about Tampa is Tampa part and wayswith the people. Go jump on some
of that stuff too. So ifyou're gonna make a big one, we'll
talk dand Brown series. I'm gonna, as I always do, press him.
You're not gonna get names. Youcan't. You you just can't get

(01:18:45):
names. It's it's tampering. You'renot gonna get names. But I want
to know what big means, andI'm gonna ask and we'll go find out.
Yeah, it's coming up at ninethirty this morning. Let's talk a
little Texans. As we get intothe eight o'clock hour, we'll get back
to some trade deadline here in justa bit of the Texans run along with
practice. That's next on Sports Talkseven ninety ADM E Houston ADHD two Houston

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Salisbury, Houston. Okay, let'sdo this, Sean Salisbury to usc
true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury, bryanlLima, go Lobos. This is the
Sean Salisbury Show. I didn't seeyou out there. Crazy to see me

(01:19:57):
out there because I didn't see youout there. I because the problem is
a problem. If it's a problem, that's a problem. And there's a
problem, that's a problem. Whatdo you Kamala Harris exactly? Okay,
Yeah, I didn't see you outthere. Did you watch the dig route
when they ran a fifteen yard income? I did? You saw it?
I saw you cheer too. Theywere practicing high point drill. Yeah,
I watched. I watched you dolike cheer like from the press box.

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You cheered from the press box.Did I was there? Good? Glad
you saw me out there? Yeah? It was awesome. It was great
talking to you too. Yeah,man, it was great. Texans announced
that they sold out of season tickets. We covered that yesterday. Uh,
the Athletic, we didn't get tothis one, Sean. The Athletic put
out their pre season power rankings.Where do you think the Texans landed?

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You have not read the article,so we have not read the article.
I'm going to give you liberty,give you death. Yeah, let's go
first. Okay, let's want todo with the top ten. Yeah,
okay, can I look at somemy top ten? I'm not gonna look
at anything a top ten. Wewant to start with ten or one.
Start with one. Their power rankingsare going to put the Chiefs of one.

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That's correct. Power rankings are gonnaput the Niners at two, that's
correct. Power rankings are going toput the Baltimore Ravens at three. That's
incorrect. Okay, then the PhiladelphiaPhillies, I mean Eagles, Phillies might
be at three. So at three, they didn't go Cincinnati? No,
who am I leaving out? Af C, NFC, NFC? Who

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am I missing? Hang on asecond? Oh, Detroit? Yes,
okay, Troy's number three? Okay, number three, dude, think about
three years ago. The Detroit Lionsare the third ranked, third power ranked
team. So four has got tobe the Ravens. No, Eagles,
Ravens are number five? Eagles?Who is four? A f C,

(01:21:51):
NFC, a FC. Don't saythe Jets no four. I'm sinking AFC
Central Bengals. Would I say theRavens already? Yes? But their number
five? Five? Yeah, yougot me Wompy johd not Miami. It's

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not the Texans. It's the Texans, is it really? Yeah? They
haven't number four. They're the fourthranked team. I was gonna go they
have them rounds between seven and ten. No, they got them at number
Four's time I've said that I'm namingthese teams saying you're not gonna tell me
it's the Chargers or somebody of football. Okay, So five's Baltimore. Six
Philly no Philly, Phillies. Yeah, Philly is in the top ten,

(01:22:35):
but all Okay? So six Af C, NFC, AFC, Jets,
no AFC, Jacksonville, No Lions, Cincinnati Lions in the NFC and
their number two Cincinnati No Cleveland,Yes, wow, they got Cleveland,
as this is second ranked team ofthe division. Yep. Seven A f

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C, NFC, NFC, Philly, No, I keep trying in Philly,
dude. The Packers. No Packerscoming at number eight. Cowboy yes,
Cowboys number seven, Packers eight,Philly nine nope, Philly's ten,
Yes, Philly's ten nine, AFC, AFC Jets, Nope. You're trying
to hammer it because of Rodgers.I know there are Rogers crowbar like a

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Buffalo. Yes, Buffalo shuffle offthe Buffalo. Yeah. So the Texans
coming at number four, that's tough. In truth, who would you get
the Jets number thirteen? I andthat's okay, But if if they're healthy,
that roster's better than thirteen. Yeah, I would you say, you're

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a little surprised at the Astra theAstros, the the the Astras and the
Phillies are both that the Texans areat four. Yeah, I'm surprised that
they had them ahead of Baltimore.So they have I think they're better than
Buffalo. I think they're better thanGreen Bay. I think the Cowboys.
I think they're better than Cleveland.I I thought they would have been number

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five. I mean, it's justone off. But yeah, they got
him at the top fourteen, that'sall. That's a big launch from three
wins two years. I mean inthe twenty twenty three season. For twenty
two season, they had the DallasCowboys at number seven. Seed Lamb not
going to show up to practice untilhe has an extension. Also, same
with Jordan Love, He's not goingto practice until he gets his extension.
Yeah, and Michael Gallop, bythe way, Trey he was out with

(01:24:20):
a Raider. He retired at twentyeight years old. Hassan Redick not going
to show up to camp for theJets, however, they said, we're
not going to deal with him untilhe shows up to camp. So there's
a stallmate. Yep, there yougo. Yeah, and those things can
get ugly eventually, to the pointwhere somebody just trades a guy if they
don't. You know who did.Wasn't that Rokwan Smith in Chicago? No,

(01:24:44):
no, no Moon. Then theymoved him Rokee like Tom Roque Smith.
The Athletic has the Bengals at numberfourteen, Miami out of the top
ten, Cincinnati out of the topten, Jets out of the top ten,
Miami coming at number twelve, LosAngeles Rams a number eleven. Interesting
I Chargers at sixteen. Okay,let's get out of our homer ism.

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Okay for one for one season.Are the Texans ranked too high in the
power rankings right now? Yes,considering the gauntlet of AFC quarterback, Yes,
I would think so too. Yeahmy couple, not by a lot.
Yeah, but even if it's oneright now, more highly right one
or two at the most, LikeI said, between four and seven for

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five and seven for me. Ithink for me, I think right now,
just on paper, they're better thanCleveland, they're better than Dallas.
They're better than the Packers, they'rebetter than the Bills, and they're better
than the Eagles. I think theEagles. Actually, I think I think
the Eagles and them. That's afair fair. I can see why somebody
put the Eagles ahead of them.To be honest with you, I think
though the quarterback here is better.And the things that I've heard over the
last are not heard that I've readin regards to the relationship between Jalen Hurtz

(01:25:50):
and Sirianni not good. So Idon't know what they're what they expect from
that that team. The loss ofthose two coordinators crushed them last year.
Last year and then they ended upchanging. They lost to put two in
and neither one of those two orthe coordinators still like so, so now

(01:26:11):
you're on your third offensive and defensivecoordinator in three years. Are people too
high on the Packers just because ofone good season from Love, Well,
then they're too high on then thenthen you then you're and he's been in
the league longer, Then you're toohigh on the Texans because of one.
So I don't think so. Ithink the a f C is tougher and

(01:26:34):
the NFC green band. I thinkthere's a clear path in the n C
just because I think quarterbacks are betterin the a f C. I do.
But and while I don't listen,do I think the Texans could end
up where those power rankings are.Yeah, but if you're asking me,
and you know me, dude,the glass half full. I still think
that we could be the the hype. Now hopefully they're They love the confidence

(01:26:57):
of it, but they're not actinglike they're the fourth best team. You
know, you can play like it, but you just got to still go
to work and not take it forgranted. Right, and power rankings are
power rankings. It's one. It'sone paper or organization or who who did
the power rankings on this one?This is the athletic Okay, the athletic.
ESPN's could be different, yours inmind could be different. It's just
dudes and gals sitting around that areanalyzed football and making their prediction. I

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still think preseason, after one win, we would rarely put a team that
high after one season after coming offa three lost team. But It also
speaks to the incredible offseason they had. Do I think they can be that
good. I do, I justfrom me would guard against I'd air on
the side of a little a littlemore caution. Between five and seven for

(01:27:40):
me doesn't mean they can't move upto the third best team in the AFC
or in the NFL by by middleof September. I think five. I
think hype probably has got them therea little bit. And the fact that
they've got the quarterback dressing in aphone booth and understandably, so you know
what they got to do. Theygot to just strap up their their work
boots, take their you know,their hard hatt and lunch pale and get

(01:28:00):
after it. Blow their neck,bow their neck. Yeah, be a
dog. Strap put your chin strapon. Yep. Take the one play
at the time is dog. Whenyou're talking about like athletes going out there
and getting after it, is dogwith a dawg. Yes. And if
you're a dog, meaning you justdon't play hard and you're just a dog,
that's a dog, right, Ithink that's that's also known as a
bitch. Oh wait, well,well exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:28:25):
yeah. So if you don't playout, you're a bitch. So
you're a dog. Don't play hard. But if we got to get it,
we got to recruit a bunch ofdogs, right exactly. I got
you. I can't have a lotof cats. You gotta have a dog.
You do, really have to havea dog? You do? Yeah,
you sure do? Seven one three, two two seven ninety, Don
and Dominic. We'll get to youguys next after the break USA Today sports
Man. They put out an articlefor projections of the AFC South. The

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He needs to know no now youknow, talk to Don don Thank you
for alling you up first. Goodmorning, hey man, how you doing.
Hey, I've got some observation here. I want you to ask Dana
Brown if you would on a listof questions. One, why did they
jump over Pedro and brought up Diaz. Diaz has been a failure everywhere he's

(01:31:28):
been for the last three years.That's the reason why everybody keeps dropping him.
That's number one. Number two,Leoper Fido has now proven that his
test that he has up here atthe Astros is now about a C minus
or a deep plus. He juststrikes out way too much. Pedro is
a whole lot better than what heis right now. Chas McCormick right now,

(01:31:49):
I didn't think anybody could be worsethan Maul and Audle, but Chas
McCormick has now proven that he's worsethan he is now. And why he
is still up here. We eitherneed to do Traffedo or we need to
do Chas mccormiy bring up Tabro.We got the Dodgers coming up for three
games, and let Pedro play forthree games and let's just find out exactly

(01:32:10):
what he has. He's either goodtrade bait or he's a keeper that we
need to keep him. That ismy observation, and the only reason why
Pedrol's not up here is one oftwo decisions. One, Either we have
an incompetent management position right now thatjust will not or like him, or
he's a cancer in the dugout oneor the other, because he's no longer

(01:32:30):
a prospect. He is now aplayer down there that needs to be up
here, playing somewhere. And I'lljust hang up and listen to you guys.
Appreciate it, don I brought thisup yesterday with you, Sean.
When it comes to pedro Leone,I read his numbers and we were both
in agreeance. We have no ideahow he hasn't been brought up yet.

(01:32:53):
It's a very odd situation. Icould see if you had a team that
was raking its ass off at andI know you have a plus of outfielders,
and maybe after the trade deadline youwill bring him. I don't know,
but there's no sniff of talk abouthim coming up and playing that I
hear. Now. I'm not listening. I'm not tuned into what's the best
way to look at tuned into everyminor league situation that goes on. But

(01:33:15):
when it gets to high, thehigh you know, the high end of
the miners. Well, we've beenpaying attention to pagor Leone for three or
four years ago. But it's neverwhen we talk to somebody, his name
never comes up first, or secondor third. This guy right now?
I mean, alls you can aska guy to do is go be productive
in the minor leagues and we'll giveyou a chance at the high level miners.

(01:33:38):
Right, hasn't he been? He'sdone that so I don't know the
reason. But if i'm him,if you're not going to play me,
move me, that's the way Imean. I know you can't do a
lot of demanding. I get itas a minor league player, but it
makes a point. I now,will he will it be as easy for
him to do what he's done inthe minor leagues and the majors and absolutely

(01:33:58):
not. But don't you want totest it? Well, it's a little
early for him. Wait, wait, it's not early for him. Well
you brought it. Well, let'sface facts. Who did who just came
up from what picture was at theDouble A before and skipped boss? Yeah,
bloss, there you go. Heain't ready. And you've seen that
in three starts, right. Hewent from Double A straight to the bigs,

(01:34:19):
got a little injured, went downthe truck may a star in the
in baseball, but right now.But you tested it to see right,
and he's still up here, soyou're still testing it. So with that,
I mean, kN kN I meanand Joey low Berfito's had his ups
and downs, but do you seethe big potential there? And he's still
here. So I don't. Idon't know why pedro Leon doesn't get run,

(01:34:40):
Dude, I don't, And Idon't know if it's the fact that
he's not in you know that theydon't favor him, But man, at
some point in time, he seemslike somebody who could be of if you
don't want him. Seems like hecould be a part of a piece of
trade to get you a bigger nameplayer that you needed on the mound.
But I don't know, and Iwish I had the answer, because I
think a lot of us are bathBut when's the last time you heard his

(01:35:01):
name is up? He's we lovehim? Yeah, when's the last time
you heard that? You haven't?You haven't? You find it weird?
I do find it weird. Yeah, I don't. I do find it
weird. Uh, let's continue onthe phone line seven ninety dominic. What's
going on? Hey, good morning, felt us all you're doing this morning,
good sir. Okay, I gotit. I agree with that last
calling. My call is not aboutthe Ashtows, but I agree with that

(01:35:24):
last caller. Diz he's not thesame vs. When that he was when
he was with us. Is justa guy now he's just a guy.
Yeah. I was surprised to seehim in the lineup the first game of
the series against Athletics. I'm like, you know, gonna jump over Singleton
and du Bond for him. Butmy, my, my, my question
for you guys were mainly Sean isand it's completely awful baseball and whatnot.

(01:35:48):
But Sean, I want to talkto you about contracts and stuff like that
when you were a player and youwas going through your negotiations or whatnot.
Oh, how does this work?Sean Jordan Love. Look, I'm still
a span and I'm a Texas fan, so I have no stock in the

(01:36:08):
practice whatnot. But I just yougo to you go to training camp and
then you walk and then you comeback after a day or two and say,
you know, your agent says,I'm not gonna hep. My client's
not going to practice. So hetells the team, you know, I'm
not going to practice until I geta new deal after coming off the season
that he had. Okay, Iunderstand, but you knew this coming into

(01:36:29):
coming into the new season. Youknew this coming into training camp and whatnot.
Is it one of those things butan agent pretty much does all of
the talking for his client for hisor her client, or is it one
of those things where it's like,Okay, for example, you see j
Stroud, you have a good relationshipwith the McNair's. Yes you have an
agent and whatnot, but you You'relike, you know what, I don't

(01:36:49):
want to hurt my team. Sowhat I'm gonna do is like, can
a player just go to the tothe ownership and be like, hey,
look what do we what can wedo to get this done? I had
a breakout year. I e.Jordan Love, I want a new deal.
I'm watching Baker Mayfield and other guyswho don't have didn't have the type

(01:37:10):
of season that I had, gettheir money or whatnot. I am the
future of your organization. I wanta new deal. Rather than coming into
the training camp, you show upfor a day or two and then you
make the statement. Your agent comesout and make the statement for you.
That you're not gonna practice, notgonna practice until you have a new deal.
Is that I don't know. Forme, that's kind of weird.

(01:37:32):
Is that normal? Like can acan a player actually go to the ownership
and like even though they have anagent, do it, you know,
do the talking for themselves to seethat they can move things along. And
why would you wait at such aI don't know. I just find it
just a bad time to wait until. Okay, you the first week of
training camp, you're about to putthe path run and then you come out

(01:37:54):
and say to the organization the fansthat you know I'm not gonna practice,
is I get a new deal?But you felt this way all off season?
And then my last course for youguys, for you and Brian injuries,
I'm just baffled on this. Youhave an injury, a nagon injury,
when the season is open baseball,football, basketball, soccer, whatever.

(01:38:14):
You have a NAGA injury and youknow it's a possibility that you would
need have a surgical procedure. Whydo so many players wait until you're right
on the cuff of the season.Started to be like, you know,
I've had this three or four monthsago, I'm just gonna wait until now
when you get the season about tostart to have an injury. I'm just
those two things. I'm just kindof totled off. All right, then

(01:38:35):
dominic that's gonna take a minute,So let us go to break and h
and talk about it. I cantell you this real quick in ten seconds.
With thein when it comes to injuries, a lot of times you don't
need surgery. You think you canheal quicker maybe than you can. And
there's sometimes when you let the healingprocess take its told because like quhen Kyle
Tucker say, I don't think heneeds surgery, but I think team and

(01:38:57):
player try to milk it as longas you milk it in the way saying
well do I really need this?And nobody wants to go through the rehabit
surgery. You're trying to let thenatural part of it and rehab heal it.
Then it comes to a point yougot to go get it done.
But I think an arm injury sometimeswith pictures you're like, Okay, I
know it's done. We're gonna wait. I don't know why you wouldn't get
it done so you can be readysooner for next year. So that it
varies with each an individual player.It does in certain situations. Some year

(01:39:20):
are in between. You don't knowif you're gonna be able to get back
and get healthy or and if youdon't, then you're waiting to hope that
that naturally you can rehab it withoutsurgery because nobody likes to go through surgery.
But there's certain ones I agree withyou. Dude, you knew you
had Tommy John. What are youwaiting two extra months to go? Get
it done for? Get the crapdone right now so you can rehab and
get back. So I think itvaries with each player. But we'll come

(01:39:41):
back and talk about the contracts.I think it's an interesting point. It'll
be an easy answer for you.But the Sean Salisbury show continues. Don't
come and be unless somebody want agold yet want to gold yet? Don't
talk me about this prelimb stuff.When a gold come to Papa. This
is group play, Group B andgroup C. So you tell me twenty

(01:40:02):
minutes into the Olympics, we don'thave a gold belly yet? Now,
okay, by bad, It's allright. All as I care about is
Uzbeka stamp. Yeah, they're trailingone nil. Nice, you've got to
say nil for Zoo. You do, yeah, of course you do.
Don't get him on the Olympics.One nil on the pitch, speaking of
the pitch, tough, tough playoffexit for our Houston Sabercasts professional rugby team

(01:40:25):
getting upset by the Dallas Jackass,I mean the Jackals. I was trying
to I was trying to stay awayfrom, to stay away from that after
such a great season on a fourteenwith a great team and a great sport.
Matter of fact, I think rugbyis underrated. It is underrated,
phenomenal, and they lost Jack jackalMahoney's jet. Can we jack jackal Mahoney's

(01:40:46):
Can you a jack? Uh?Yeah, if you say g because a
jag is just a guy? Yeah, all right, right right, Jags
just a guy? Yeah? Okay, yeah, but you probably should.
You don't need to say it,but we get the point. You want
to fiel me, you feel me, don't say it. I don't need
to say it. I'm good.Why not because I know? Why?
Why do you want me to bethe guy who has to your names on
the show? Okay, I confessit. Shot seven seven ninety the number

(01:41:13):
to join talking to little astros talkinga little Texans and you know what,
even Olympics. All right, Soyes we are. And you want me
to answer that question about contracts forDominic. I'm gonna make it real quick.
Okay, hang on, make itsimple. Yes you can go Dominic.
Yes, you're basically asking the question. Can players go into the front
office and say, let's get thisdone. Yes, you can do anything
you want rock up those stairs,and many guys, over the course of

(01:41:35):
their career, like in an offseason if said, hey, man,
let's get this done. Can't wait, and some don't approach it. You
pay an agent to work for you, not you don't work for the agent.
I can tell you this though,while you run Intoto, GM and
the rest of it. In tenyears of my career, I never sat
in an office and negotiated a contract. In my life. I set the
parameters of what I wanted. Myagent did all the work. Because trust

(01:41:58):
me, if you're sitting in negotiationsand you going back and forth with the
GM, you're going to find outthe anger and hatred between both, and
then you hug each other and telleach other you love After all the words,
you don't deserve this well, Ideserve this. So that's why people
hire agents sitting, and some don'thire them now they don't want to give
up the four to six or eightpercent whatever they're paying these days. But
my agent did all the negotiations.He'd come to me and he'd come back

(01:42:19):
and say, here's the conversation.He'd say, here's where we're headed.
And he'd come back and say here'swhere we are. Okay, I'm not
doing it. And then you getto a point where here's the decision.
They say it's their final offer,and I may say, well, see
if it is their final offer,and you go back and forth. But
I have never sat looked across froma GM. The only time I've sat
in their office, I mean thenof your buddies during when you're not in
there, but in a negotiation waswhen I went in there to sign it

(01:42:41):
and say thanks. That was it. Other than that, I didn't talk
contract with anybody. My agent didall of it, and he worked for
me, and he's not the onewho gets to decide if it's mine.
If you get to a point andsay, okay, here's the point.
When they get to that, sayyes, and then he comes back says,
you know, Sean, we're gettingcloser to camp or in the off
season. Some get it done earlyin the offseason. Stars having a different
approach. That's there is a difference. I don't think a fifth round draft

(01:43:04):
pick who's in his you know,contract, who's just or a backup,
goes in there and is gonna,you know, hammer them because they're gonna
say, you know, you don'tusually give ultimatums. When you're a you
know, a backup linebacker running downon special teams, your contracts up that
usually those are usually earlier get done. You know what I'm saying. Now,
if you're a fifth rounder that turnedinto a superstar, different story.

(01:43:25):
So but the stars like Jordan Love, the quarterbacks, the Justin Jefferson type
of players, those guys they're they'rethey're different, They're in a different regard.
So with Jordan Love, I thinkin the offseason you get going.
But it works both ways. Ifyou're the team you are trying to figure
out and the agent trying to figureout, well, where's the pecking order?

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These get Oh, Trevor Lawrence gotfifty five million, or you know
what I'm saying, you're looking atwho sets the market and then the next
guy and the next guy. Soin Jordan Love's case, I'm sure he's
waiting because he's heard the talk abouthim. His agent knows, wait to
see. Okay, where do Islot in? Now? I'm sure he's
going to go in after one bigyear, asked for the most money anybody's
ever been paid, because he's nextin line. But what happens the reason

(01:44:09):
why you get to camp. Youwant to hold the team hostage too.
He knew that it wasn't getting doneright away. So you get to camp
and you don't want injuries. Youget to camp and also you boom,
you realize, Okay, now I'mgonna shut it down. Now let's see
what you guys. Do you reallywilling to go into the season without me
under contract? So there is amethod to the madness of getting there and
saying no. And I know everybodywants it to be everybody singing Kumbaya,

(01:44:30):
where your best player comes in thereand says, oh, I'm there,
I'm there for my team, I'mgoing to do it. We're past that
reality. Now, guy didn't wantto hurt an ankle. They don't want
to risk it, so they goin there they set the tone say I'm
in, but I'm not all untilI get paid. So you want to
risk going into the season in threepreseason games in the regular season starting in
September, you go ahead, Iain't coming back till I'm ready, and
he holds that, and you knowwhat, he's going to get a contract
done because they're not going to havethe balls to go into the season without

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him as a quarterback. So thoseguys are held different unlike a guy who
may be in a backup or astarter, but he's your third receiver as
of post. Usually that gets done. So smart ones in their agent will
go in and say, here's theoffer, come back, what do you
think. Okay, we're closer,but I'm not there yet. So the
agent just is the guy who doesall the negotiating. You tell them what
you want and then you make thedecision. At the end. Some of

(01:45:13):
the agent says no, get more, and a player will go no,
quit it, quit fighting with himover and I said, when it gets
to this is what I want todo, let's get to camp. So
some will do that. So Iget Jordan Love, So yeah, you
can go in and negotiate and tellhim let's get this done. Happens all
the time. A guy walk bya GM say hey, man, we
gonna get this done. Most guyslet their agent do all the dirty work,
which is rightfully so, so youcan still be you don't want to

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hear some of the good or badthey say about you, right, let
the agent do all the hard workin there, so yeah, you can
get it done with the reason theywait, it's a negotiation ploy. You're
trying to milk all you can andyou get to camp and you put them
in a situation say hey, Idare you basically to go, and and
you hang around, you go tomeetings, but you're not gonna practice because
why you want let them to knowthat this is serious, that I'm not

(01:45:58):
going to show up now if youwill, you're a player that's afraid,
and you don't, you're not willingto put your money where your mouth is
and say I'm not going until it'stime. But they'll come a point in
time. Will they'll get to theclose number When it gets to that,
You're not gonna let a half amillion dollars keep you out it out of
the season, right, Brian.So most players don't have the guts to
hold out the season. They'll getit done. But it's just a message
sent and they're not in any hurryfor the big name guys because they're good

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like the Jordan Loft, They're gonnathey're gonna do everything they can to get
all the information. If you're theagent, you're saying, don't do that,
dude, you're cheating yourself out often million dollars by signing in February
as opposed to just go to campand then sit out of camp and everything
will be fine. We see thatall the time. Now, that's why
they do it. It's just anegotiating play to say, you think you
can live without me, Let's seewhat happens and get all the money you
can, because then then the teambecomes desperate. Right, that's what's gonna

(01:46:42):
happen. It's doctor John, beforeget to break John, thanks for holding
Good morning. Hey, what's happeningto guys? Hey, yesterday afternoon or
yesterday mid morning? You know,Staying came in back from camp sounding a
little flustered, and I know,you know you gotta take your words wisely
with these gms and these head coaches, but man, and I know being

(01:47:09):
you know Astro ships, you knowFlagship all that, and then Aastrians on
the team. But I would justflat out act like one of his congressional
hearing congress people and just say,man, quit pissing on my leg and
just give me the damn answer becauseDana Brown don't tell you, Jack,

(01:47:30):
Dusty didn't tell you Jack. Theassholes put themselves in this position with that
stupid or bray. You deal withBagwell and Montero and I never want to
see Seth Martinez again on the mound. Then you got now you've got Demko
not saying what's going on with JoeNixon? You know, I mean,

(01:47:54):
oh, well, he'll be here, he'll be there, And it's just
it's very frustrating to the fan towhere you know, everybody wants to know
what's going on. We all know, Jude, don't tell me it's a
bruise leg. Dude, you lineain't no bruise leg, tain't no two
months to heal, So we allknow that was a practic. I just
wish one, and I know SeanSeawn asked him, seannot give a rat's

(01:48:16):
ask Shauna flat out asking to apoint because he has to answer you y'all's
bosses. But for for for thesegms just to not I agree with the
caller before this caller bringing deads inthat dude, you can you might as
well kept a braying you. Imean, that's that's anserine. That's just

(01:48:41):
plain asinine. Why did why wastethat space on bringing somebody like that in
the year and the cat last night? I mean, like I said this
morning, earlier, they took twosteps forward and now they're taking eight steps
backwards. We cannot beat Oakland andopenand and god knows why we're a jeans

(01:49:01):
You really are? Did y'all?Also hear about this Brandy not you think
where he's holding out? Oh no, no, he's holding in. This
is the new thing. It's calledhe reported, but he ain't gonna practice.
You want to know why he's doingit? Fine, he won't get

(01:49:26):
fined somehow. They are saying inthe in the CBA, it's a new
thing that if you hold in,they cannot find you. You've reported,
you're there, but you're not goingto practice. Yeah, there's it.
Does you go in and you sayI can't go and you're there because you
get fun when you're under contract onceonce mandatory training camp starts. I don't

(01:49:48):
know whether it's five or ten thousand. You could find every single day.
He didn't want to give the moneyaway. Yeah, and now, yeah,
it's smart. It's we all knowhe's gone up one hundred thousand dollars.
We all know they're not going tofind him all that they're gonna work
it out, blah blah blah.But yeah, I mean it's smart on

(01:50:10):
his behalf. On I'm a report, but I ain't gonna practice that way.
I ain't got to get fined.Yep, I got thanks, yep,
YouTube brother appreciate it. Yeah,it's I mean, we've seen guys
do that, show up and justnot practice. They want to keep that,
but they don't want to get thedaily fine, which he'd work back
into the contract if they did findyou and you say, okay, cover
my fine and I'll sign the contract. So yeah, yeah, but I

(01:50:30):
then I then dominic'splained about contracts.Man, Guys, do it you think
the urgency when you're dealing with sixtymillion a year, they're they're in the
players in no regencias, especially whenhe knows you need me more than I
need you, Right, now becauseeverybody pay him. Yeah, that's why
they wait the camp. So butuh yeah, I'll press Dana Brown.
But you're never gonna get what youwant to get as a fan when it
comes to inver and with with sayingwith with Tamiko, you're just now you

(01:50:53):
keep that in house and we'd allprobably do the same thing if we were
in that situation. Just frustrates thefan. I get what John's talking about.
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(01:52:27):
Sports Talk seven ninety. Hey,God bless the iHeartRadio app I'm rolling around
Northern Indiana. Listening to you guystoday, it's seventy no humidity and no
rain. How y'all doing down there? Yes? But rain? It's ass
off all morning, Bilbil, Thanks, Hey, screw you bill that desire?

(01:52:54):
I heard that one h This ismaybe Sean. Maybe you can phrase
this properly to Dan when we getthem on later. But actually I said
this when I called in almost ayear ago at this time, and I'm
gonna say it again, major LeagueBaseball teams are not standing up and jumping
in line to make deals with theAstros. I know, you guys got

(01:53:14):
lucky. You know, Astro's gotlucky getting Verlander last year, But not
everybody's gonna want to help the Astrosget better right now? Uh? And
I fear that they're just not gonnabe able to get the kind of pieces
they really need to make a run. I mean, they're they're guys out
there, But how many quality pitchersout there? Can you? He?
Brian, you said you want tohopefully get two pitchers. That's gonna be

(01:53:34):
hard. It's gonna be hard tothe how do you get them? Where
do you find them? And who'swho wants to who wants to make the
Astros better and for a lot ofreasons. For a lot of reasons,
because I think people. I thinkpeople. First of all, is a

(01:53:56):
stigma of the Astros, but Ithink people. I think people fear the
Astros. If they get another armor two, they could be, you
know, a freaking beast. Uhgoing down these last couple of months.
So anyways, have a great dayand uh, I'll be back in in
Houston in about a week. Hey. Great, great to hear. Great
to hear from you, Bill,But remember this after that comment about the
weather, and it's really nice andbeautiful day. But don't call in here

(01:54:18):
anymore. I'm kidding. We loveyou, brother. Be safe. We'll
talk to you when you get back. Be careful, man. Thanks great
stuff. So let's get to Art. What's up Art? Hey guys?
You I'm doing Hey Sean, Yes, sir, we met a few times.
We met first back in ninety three. You were back up quarterback for

(01:54:41):
the Houston Orleans and I delivered thatwas a Lexus salesperson. Oh yeah,
yeah, I delivered a beautiful wideLexus coup to you. I thank you,
guys for training in San Antonio.Damn right, you did so,
thank you very much, Lexus Coop, Well, we're we're gonna have to
talk about that back in the day. Yeah, but then it was an
extent. No, no, no, we'll hit on that later there you

(01:55:04):
go. Oh, thank you.Yes, I remember it well, brother,
because I remember the vehicle which iswhich was, and and the fact
that you delivered it. I rememberthe vision and that's I know that it
was ninety three, but I knowexactly the day you delivered it what it
looked like. So thank you.It was it was a top shelf automobile
back there, damn right, absolutely, yep. Anyway, I want to

(01:55:26):
pick up on the previous caller,I thank his name was Donovan. On
contracts. I spent four or fouryears in the car business, and I
kind of know a little bit aboutnegotiations. Long Charty is, let's say
guys like Jarton Love and Citie Lamb. They in the fifth year and the
team has exercise and guaranteed fifth year, right, yep, So they've got

(01:55:46):
a guarantee for this coming season.What's the rationale that they can negotiate for
after the fifth year when they've alreadygot a guarantee for the fifth year.
Number one and number two let's sayif they get hurt doing this coming season,
those new contracts after the fifth year, is that guaranteed money still guaranteed

(01:56:11):
and they got hurt guaranteed money ishey, Art, and thank you for
the question, and thank you.It's great to hear from you, brother,
and I appreciate it. And itwas a don't don't be on the
lexus back in the day, Doug, you want you didn't even know when
were you born? Eighty nine?So you were four? You tell me
you to jump in that thing andwanted to sit on my lap. Okay,
say it, there's no room.You got a lexus, I wouldn't

(01:56:33):
hoop listen, But it wasn't Youhave to understand what I was trying to
get in around camp getting it thatyou know when you get But it wasn't
one of those. It wasn't amos to me, odd dude. It
was a but you know me,I'm a truck and STV guy. That's
my point. Well, when somebodywants to deliver, when something with the
lead, when somebody wants to Okay, somebody comes up to you and says,

(01:56:54):
hey, we got a great dealfor you. We want you to
drive this car. For ucef theywant to you're doing You're saying, no,
they wanted to deliver me a Chevy. Uh, that's all you get.
I'm taking it. Yeah, I'mnot six, but you're sixth grade?
Right, Okay? So yeah,but who's counting? But two inches
does matter, as you well knowso. But but he's are right about

(01:57:23):
the contract, and art I cantell you this. When it says the
G word on your contract, itdoesn't matter if you blow out your knee
and can't play again the rest ofyour life. It's guaranteed in any sport,
guaranteed. And that's why the NFLis reluctant to give guaranteed. That's
why these players want more upfront money, want more guaranteed money that's in their
pocket. But but the when itcomes to that fifth year guarantee, yes,

(01:57:45):
the guarantee is when it's got toguarantee that you get paid guarantee.
And so when you get that fifthyear where they roll they say, we've
picked up the option on the fifthyear. And if you're the player and
you're a star, well you're sayingif you Lamar Jacks, remember Lamar in
his situation hold out too. Rememberwhen in training camp situation with him in
Baltimore. When they pick up thatfifth year option, you're thinking, well

(01:58:06):
does a player hold card? Doesa player hold the cards of the organization?
Well, if you're a star,sometimes they'll pick up a fifth year
option. Remember it's first round draftpick quarterback, they get that fifth year,
You get that extra fifth year.Normally what is it four years for
the players? Right? Yeah,for the fifth So with that first round
pick, you get that fifth yearoption. You guarantee and pick it up.
So you're you're guaranteeing that that year, that's his year. But with

(01:58:29):
a player, why do you thinkyou want to get a contract done before
that con You show up to campfor that Why because you're afraid the death
of an injury that you're not goingto get the big one that's following it.
So what do you do? Youhold out a camp and you're you're
betting on yourself, saying, thebackup quarterback, they know what I bring
to the table, all the kudosthey've given me the season, I'm gonna

(01:58:51):
get paid. I am gonna getpaid. The question is how much.
So that's why they do it.And when it's guaranteed, it's guaranteed.
Yes, Tom, that's way itworks, whether it's injury. If you
have guaranteed money in the third yearof your contract and get hurt, that
money is still yours. Yeah.If you have guaranteed money at any point
in time, that money's yours.In any sport, NFL continues to be

(01:59:11):
reluctant. Yes, when they pickup the fifth year and there's a G
word on any contract. If there'sa guarantee word in it, you get
paid. But players don't want togo into their last year if you're a
star, because that injury before thebig one and the team wants to get
it done. Why because at theend of the fifth year, if you
don't have a contract done, guesswhat you get to do. You get
to leave. Yeah, you getto take it and go test a free

(01:59:31):
agent market. And they don't wantthat, especially when the Jordan Loves of
the world are stars. So greatpoint Art and all those years back to
him delivering that lexus, I rememberit well and it was delivered to San
Antonio, So thank you. Goodto me back then, and good to
me now. There you go drivinga coop. Yeah, Hey, you
are never too proud to beg brother. No, you're not going to look

(01:59:53):
a gift horse in the mouth asa show. What a gift horse you've
ever heard that saying? Let melook it up on the break look at
it right now? No, yeah, a break, We gotta get some
driving break man. Now. Yeah, let's get to the top. Look
at gift horse in the mouth.Okay, I'll look that up and we'll
get back. Seven one, three, two five, seven ninety is the
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This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.Seven one three two one two five seven
ninety is the number to join.Got a couple of guys want to get
in and talk about the Astros,maybe a couple of Texans questions. Let's
talk to Aggie Doug. First,Aggie Doug, good morning, howdy fellas.

(02:01:44):
First of all, before I getto my astros and GM take,
I do have a question with Seanand off of you, Ryan, If
Kyle Tucker's leg was fractured in anyway, why is he walking around on Why
is he not on crutches? Whyis he not in the cat? So
I think that that blows all thatnarrative out of the out of the window.
Well, he was whatever, hewas on crutches for a while.

(02:02:06):
He was on crutches, but he'snever in a cast. No, I
mean, you're gonna put a casthow do you put a cast on a
shin And that's what I mean.You'd have to put up put a cast
up to the knee, right,No, no, no, no,
you put it in a brace.Nowadays, I mean, hell, we
don't even put you when you tearout an a c L or a or

(02:02:28):
a medio collateral m c L,moniscus whatever a c L. They don't
even put him in a cast.Now you put him in a hinge.
They take it off and shower.Now. Hell, I had knee replacement
and was walking four hours after itdown the hallways of the hospital. Yeah,
no, it's different. I see, it doesn't blow it out of
the water. All you can walkwith the fracture. I've had torn ligaments
in my ankle. I got anankle right now that needs fused that I

(02:02:50):
walk on and play golf with anddo it every day. So that's a
whole main tolerant question, right Wellyeah, oh yeah, A big part
of that us and there's no doubtabout that. But I just have a
hard time. I mean, forme, I'm not calling you body lie.
I know you protect things, butI've never ever been around and I
mean I'm not questioning Kyle Tucker.He's been durable as hell in my sport.

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I've never been around an athlete whomissed two months in football because of
a bruise. Ever, a helmetto the shin happens every day. Nobody
wears shin guards in pro football.We don't wear cups. I'm not questioning
his toughness. That's that's that's ahymn thing, and I think he is
tough, but I just and I'mnot saying they're lying, but you protect
you Listen, we all would asgeneral manager or our medical crew. You

(02:03:38):
protect your players. You just dothat, while we as fans want to
know, you just do. Butif that's a bone bruise, that's that's
the deepest bone bruise that I canyou ever remember anybody missing two months for
a bone bruise, No, Imean, honestly, Sean. That's why,
that's why I think that it hasto be some sort of weird injury,
right, and not a fracture,because it's something that I mean it

(02:04:00):
too much. You know, itcould be a crack, could be a
cracked bone of some of a hairlight. I mean, I don't know because
I've never had that in my shin. We've all had you know, where
we've run into something on the sideof the bed. It's obviously serious,
I mean, threat pain threshold ornot. But damn, and I think
that's a good way to put it, Doug, is weird whatever. The
weird part of the injury is it'ssomething that hit a spot that's just not

(02:04:23):
healing. Because man, that isa long time and we're still not playing
baseball stuff. No, And thatleads me to my point about GM's right.
So it's it's cool for us tosit there and watch the World Series
of Poker and know everybody's hand andknow the percentages and all that kind of
stuff. But I sure the guysat the table sure as hell aren't gonna

(02:04:44):
flip over their cards and say,here, this is what I got.
I mean, that's what that's whata GM does. GM is just a
high stakes poker player. That's that'sjust dealing players instead of chips at this
point. So you have to lookat it from their standpoint, Like and
another caller kind of compared it tothese senators, you know, pitting on
our leg and all that kind ofstuff. But like, do you really

(02:05:08):
expect the senator or even any politicianto tell you the truth. So I
think you walk into it going,look, they're gonna lie to me.
It's just the one that maybe liesa little bit better and sounds a little
bit better. That's the one thatI'm going to vote for as far as
you know the politicians. But thegms, the ones that are really good
and keep their jobs for a longtime, are the guys that don't give
up the information, the guys thathold it to their chest. I mean,

(02:05:30):
think about how long Bill Belichick wasa coach, and he would never
give up any information on any ofthese players, especially after a game or
anything like that. And Doug whatpeople asked him about it? Yeah,
were you more at risk at asa franchise telling us or making sure we're
happy or making sure your players arehappy? You're more at risk by pleasing

(02:05:51):
us as opposed to pleasing your ownplayers. Right, so you're always more
Like another caller suggested, the wholenegotiation thing. If I tell you the
couch U has a broken leg,you're gonna go, well, you're desperate
to make a move for an outfielder, right, I'm definitely you know,
cash in on this one. Everycity doesn't make any sense for either Nick
or Ordaina to give up any informationto us, even though we want to

(02:06:14):
know it as manned, we wantto know it's on table. But I
mean, honestly, all that informationand they make them do it is only
because of one thing, and onething only, gambling all the only reason
we have injured litt Yeah, allthat, yeah, and you think,
well, why do we do it? And they want it by a certain
date and the rest of it,I get it. And then not hiding
injury. I mean the Washington Redskinsused to, like in the NFL,

(02:06:35):
they keep like Stan Humphreys, MarkRipping Doug. They had like five quarterbacks
that they didn't want to let goand have somebody else go get them.
So they had, you know,the tendon itis in the shoulder. It's
hard to find out ten and nights, they just they just hit him.
They did it all the time.And the rule change. I mean you're
like, okay, so you justsay and I know because I had my
rookie year, I played my assoff in the training camp. My the

(02:06:58):
the they came up to me andsaid, on your shoulders sore? I
said, no, my shoulders,your shoulder is sore. Oh okay,
And so my shoulder was sore forthat after that final roster was set right
and and you know the reason,and there was nothing wrong with my shoulder
at a rubber arm but and throwforever, But my shoulder was sore.
In Washington, they did all thetime, and and they it was documented.

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Everybody knew why they Oh he's gota sore toe, or his thumb's
bothering him or his shoulder, butthey so they have to implement rules to
protect. But you're right, ithappens in every city. It's frustrating for
the fans, but you're always goingto protect your guys for a lot of
different reasons. You're not gonna tellsomebody the guys got a deep thig Brews
if you don't have to, becausewell, somebody's gonna tackle him. You're
not gonna tell him this. You'realways going to protect, not only for

(02:07:42):
the legal side of it, butthose are the guys you got to go
face to face with every day.Me you don't have to talk to me
every day, So you're always eventhough we're frustrated fans, as fans,
you're never gonna get the full insightfrom a team about an injury, You're
just not It's never going to happenwhen you played it didn't Guys actually look
at the injured list and I say, Okay, I'm a hunt an ankle

(02:08:03):
today or I'm gonna hunt that legtoday. Absolutely, I mean it wouldn't
you Hell yeah, strategy. Yeah, he's got a sore. He's got
to Like everybody you know getting madabout the astros accused the cheating. I
mean like when I was in whenI was a little league, it was
like, if you ain't cheating,you ain't try it. If a guy
like if a guy has a badshoulder, a guy has a bad shoulder,

(02:08:24):
a back injury, and he's thequarterback, where do you think you're
taking your dead aim on when you'regoing to play him? He's in full
ger not a cheap shot late.But if he's in there and his shoulder
is at seventy percent, wouldn't yourather play against the backup he's getting in
he's getting hit in the shoulder.I did, no doubt, no doubt.
I can sense that was why CamNewton's career was shortened, because people

(02:08:46):
knew about that shoulder and they hammeredit. That I would. Yeah,
they're worse two without him, right, no doubt they were worse without him.
So yeah, if if we knowit, we're going after it.
That's just called gamesmanship, dog,and that's exactly why you're gonna do it,
no doubt. And that's what Tanais doing every time that he talks
to you guys. It's a littlebit of gamesmanship as well as a little

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bit of truth because people are listening. Don't get too frustrated with it,
all right, Agreed, He's justa gamer, that's all he is.
Agreed. Appreciate the call, Doug. All right, boy, thanks buddy,
Let's get the breg. We'll continuethis discussion next to Sports Talk seven
eighty. The Sean Salisbury Show continueson your game console. Listen to Sports

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Talk seven ninety on any device withour free iHeartRadio app. Felipe, thanks
for all. Good morning morning fellas. We'll get a few questions, you
know, then I hang up,Agains Joe take. The first one is
as far as the holding out infootball and basically any sport really, and
this one can really turn your showon here. How does that give the

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look to that player that decides tohold out you know, as far as
contract negotiations until like you know,all teams sports, you know, a
camaraderie between the players on the team. But I feel like football is yet
to be real, like close,real, real close to succeed in the
league. I just want to knowhow would that, you know, how

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would that affect his look as faras to the league and future, uh
future if you're more than different teampretty much with that team effect, you
know so and I mean that that'smy question on that one. But also
as far as baseball, you know, we know that you know, pretty
injured and just gonna go for sportsas well, But I'm not sure there
any like penalty or say, hey, you know, if had triple lely,

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can you uh his connection was goingin and out kind of sound like
a robot. Yeah, we heardthe first football. On the second one,
we could not hear what you wereyou said, astros, but we
didn't know what you said. Letme let me answer the first question.
It's it's differs if Jordan Love aftera second year would have held out of
training campus the backup to Rogers,people have looked him like he was out
of his mind, or when yousee a guy going in and golltiates a

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contract. He's an eight year youknow, six year, seventh year in
the league. He signs his afterhis fifth year, gets his new one,
and then two years into it,with three years left or four years
left, already wants a new con. I'm holding out at camp overboard.
Okay. Then the players look atthe players look at you, like,
dude, enough, you just gotyour new contract. Where's the greed step?
And this is a team sport.Are you treating your right guard?

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Are are you making sure that thedefensive guys getting their love? In the
case of Jordan Love, he servedas a backup. He's been patient,
He's never threatened to. I'm notshowing up. I can't say trade play
me or trade me, none ofthat. When Rogers were there, he
went out and performed, stayed thecourse. And I also think you get
a feel for the room. Idon't think guys that you know when a

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guy cares about you as a player, And most players don't get another player's
wallet because you ask yourself, whatwould I do if I was Jordan Love?
And most players would say I'd bedoing just what he's doing. Outside
the building. You'll get some Hey, you're on your contract, you should
play your fifth year. Worry aboutthat at the end. Now, if
you're a Packer fan, you're saying, sign this dude for ten years and

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don't let him out of our site. So it goes both ways. It's
that hard line or how dare youstep out of cuy You owe it to
your teammate, And I get it. There are some who think that,
and I understand because you can't fathomthe guy working on a roof for in
construction or school teaching for thirty fortyto fifty grand a year raised with four
holding out for sixty five instead ofsixty three million dollars. I get that.

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But most players when it comes tocamp, and truthfully, camp's been
short and so much, it's awhole different ballgame the way NFL goes about
training camp. Now it's become semicountry club. Anyway. You're not allowed
to practice in pads. Two practicesin a row. You're not allowed to
which is hell. It used tobe we'd beg for a day where you
didn't have to practice pad. Youcan't practice to practice own patch, period.

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So when it comes to this,players know what a player deserves and
how they feel it, and athletesare overpaid, all of them, but
in the scheme of sports, they'renot, so they know the worth and
I would imagine he's done one hellof a job of developing relationships where when
it comes to money, players needto stay out of each player's wallet.
It's none of your damn business.You get out of my wallet. And

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if you if you're a receiver,a running back, or a team,
you realize, yeah, while he'sholding out, now, my best chance
to win is with Jordan loves myquarterback in September. I don't care if
he misses the first week of practice. And that's how most players think.
When it comes to players. Theyrarely are mad at a guy for holding
out. I'll tell you what.They get mad at a guy for being
a woosie when he's got a whenhe's got a hangnail and misses three weeks.

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That would bother a football Oh he'sout, and you know he's or
says I'm ready, but I'm justnot emotionally ready to play because by my
ankle doesn't feel right yet. He'sbeen pronounced fitting ready to go. That
is when they look at a guylike what a coward? We're out here
the offensive lineman of the defensive tackleis getting his brains beat in, and
you're not gonna play because you're you'reyour hangnail cut a little too deep.

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Get your ass out there and play. When it comes to money, most
players are on the on the playerside. Most are, and quite frankly,
the front office is probably on jordanleft side too. They just got
to be a little bit realistic onthe money. So you don't have to
worry about if he's disrupting camaraderie.Now in the middle of the season,
all of a sudden, he gotpissed in Game seven said you know what,
I played six great games. I'mwalking out on you guys. Now

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we're talking about a different story.Most guys when it comes to training camp
are like Jordan Love deserves this atleast in ours and we need him.
If it was September, it'd bea different ballgame. Last call before we
gets to Dana Brown's talk to Ronnie. Ronnie, good morning, corning guys.
I'm looking at all the things we'vegot with the Astros, and I
see the outfield position is sort oflike a horse race, you know.

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Myers and McCormick or leading low perfitoscoming up fast. You got But why
I don't understand. I wish andI know Dana won't answer the question.
You know, but why we gaveup Hoose Siri? Okay? I understand
that. Why doesn't Leon get achance? Why doesn't Hamilton get a chance?

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Shay wickham He's tearing up the PCL, he tore up the Step Texas
League. He's not a center fielder, but he can play all the infield
positions, so he could play firstbase. You know, if Uri Guriel
could learn to play first witham couldI just don't get him to if you
would compare and contrast some of theweaknesses and strengths of some of the guys

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that we have because the Anstros organization. And I agree and I understand what
they did, but they've given upa lot of good outfielders who have had
some really nice careers with other teams. And I just don't want to see
him give up Leon and have himcome and bite us in the rear end.
Thank you for the call, Ronnie, Yeah, it makes sense.

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Ronnie's passionate about that. There comesa point in time when the frustration of
when somebody getting gets right now,if all three Astros outfielders were dominating,
different story. Are any of themdominating at the plate? No, because
Kyle Tucker's heart, is there oneof them to say you can't get him
out? Not one right now?Right? Yeah, Jose Siri is hitting
like barely two hundreds, So JoseSiri. Yeah, Well, I'm saying

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he talked about oh when he left, yeah, when he was here.
Yeah, I got that. Yeah, I feel you dog. All right,
let's welcome in Astros that general managerDana Brown to the show next.
Yeah, how about Jeff witzet too? How you having trouble seeing? We
can all see what needs to bedone in certain things like with the Astros.
Can we can all see what needsto be done? But are you
seeing exactly when you're watching the gamewhat needs to be done? Literally?

(02:16:30):
Well, if not, and youdon't like contacts or glasses, why wouldn't
you make the switch go in thereand get this Lasik procedure done. Your
eyes are precious and put him inthe hands of somebody who if he was
doing your eyes, he'd do himjust like he would his owner, his
own families. I know because I'vedone it. And talk to something.
Don't talk to somebody who hadn't doneit. Talk to somebody who has hard
for me. If I was aselling Lasik procedure, if I've never had

(02:16:54):
Lasik procedure, I've always found thatcrazy. Hey, yeah, go get
this guy Lasik procedure. Would youdo it? No? Why are you
wearing glasses? Well, I'm afraidof lasik, but I'm telling you to
go get it. No, no, no, I've done it, sat
late on that table, what not? It long, non invasive. I
had all the same concerns you got. But when a guy explains it to
you before you do it, he'sbeen through tens I mean literally tens of
thousands of these procedures, and thenyour recovery is quick and the follow up

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is off the charts and you're seeingbetter than you have since the prime of
your vision, like he did forme. I think that's a pretty good
gig. So if you want totalk to people who've done it, and
you've done it with this doctor,doctor Jeff wits it the very best in
the business, and he's right herelocally. A lot of times you got
to leave the state to go findsomebody who's doing something good for you,
not here and not what it comesto LASIK procedure or your eye care.

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Jeff witz It doctor Jeff Witze atWHI T S E T T witsitt Vision
dot com, witstvision dot Com forThe Sean Salisbury Show. Continued nine on
This John Salisbury Showlet's welcome in AstrosGeneral manager Dana Brown. Ah. Yeah,

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we get them for a weekly visitat nine thirty. Always grateful to
have Dana Brown on. Dana.It's the first time we've been able to
say this for the most part allyear long, since we've talked to you
and me. First place, firstplace. We man, how's it sound?
Yeah, first place sounds great.You know, I wish we can
get on a roll here so wecould pad that lead a little bit.

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You know, right now we're tied, but you know, we got to
get back on all cylinders so wecan you know, separate ourselves a little
bit. Yeah, and you mentionedyou wanted to be in this type of
position, even close, and yetyou're tied for first place with Seattle,
who's helping out a little bit becausethey're not playing great baseball. I want
to talk about this Oakland stuff andI'll tell you what I despise Dana is
when I hear as a former athlete, Hey, these are trap series or

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trap games. They're all important,and we're all pros. And when you're
playing and you got to focus inSeattle series to win two or three,
you got the Dodgers followed by Pittsburgh, where is there a focus missing?
How to? And I know Oakland'splaying great baseball, at least offensively,
and they got it back into theso they're raking right now. But you're
a better team. How do yougo in? It feels almost I don't

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want to say disinterested because the fansaren't there. How do you lose focus
for a two game series and waitingon game three today and lose to Oakland
when these games all matter and youknow the urgency of it. Yeah,
I think what happens is, youknow, you ran into a team that's
extremely hot. You know over theirlast six games. You know, these

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guys are at eighteen home runs andscored fifty six runs. You know,
every now and then you're going torun into a team that's red hot,
and you know, it's baseball.It's part of the game. That's why
we have a long season, youknow, of one hundred and sixty two
games. But you know, makeno mistake, we do have a really
good team. You know. It'sjust that we ran into a ball club

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that's really hot, you know,and they got the back end of our
rotation, and so you know,hopefully we can get this one today with
Brown going. He's been our bestguys so but I think it's basically because
they're extremely extremely hot. Yeah,they sure are, and they are hitting
the long ball, and Butler's playinggreat baseball this month, you know,
and Hunter Brown going to what agood guy to have go out there to

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end this losing streak because he hasbeen sensational. But Dan, I want
to get to do you buy intothat looking at the Dodgers are head And
I don't know the answer to this. Do you buy into teams in a
series like in baseball can look aheadbecause they know what's coming down the pike
and you're supposed to beat Oakland.Does that ever creep into a baseball club?

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No, I think ultimately, youknow, because as I mentioned,
we play so many games on thecourse of the year. You got to
take it one day at a time. But you start looking ahead or even
if you look behind when you say, oh, we should have won this
game or that game, you can't. I don't think that's you're playing with
danger there. Ultimately, it's thetask at hand. You have to be

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focused on that day's picture and youhave to get after it, you know.
And and the pitcher has to befocused on that lineup and he has
to get after it. So Idon't think you could look ahead. I
don't think you should look behind.I think you should focus on the task
at a hand. And I thinkthat's where our guys are. You know,
as I mentioned, we you knowwe run into it. We ran

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into a really hot Oakland team andit's you know, it's frustrating to lose
games, no doubt about it.But you know those guys are running out
professionals as well, so you know, we got to get this one today.
Well. And that the truth realquick on on bloss is in normal
circumstances, is he really is heready to be a big leaguer or you

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guys have to press him? Andand like I said, I think he's
going to be a really good player, and I know you do too,
Dana, But is he ready innormal circumstances or is this kind of have
to crow bar him in because ofthe injury situation. Yeah, I mean,
I think Bloss really has the stuffto pitch at the big league level.
You know, you'll you'll see he'llhave innings where you will cruise,
do that any and then you knowthe next inning he won't be as as

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good. Part of the album isfor a young starter like this, if
you don't execute the pitch, youknow, you get beat. And that's
pretty much what's happening with Bloss rightnow. And you know, I think
part of it too is, youknow, we have seven starters on the
il and that makes it a littlebit more difficult, and so you know

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you have to reach you so fardown into your depth, and so you
have to keep on battling. Andyou know that's why, you know,
our main priority is to try toget an arm in his deadline. All
right now, I'm going to getto that in just one second. Dana
Brown asked for the gym for hisweekly visit here at nine thirty on Wednesdays.
I want to get to paid leonefor a second. We've been having
conversations about him here in the cityfor a while even before you got here

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and now and he's raking, whyis it he getting any MLB run?
Why isn't he a big club run? What's the hold up with him?
Yeah, I mean I think there'sa chance that, you know, he
could get some run depending on whathappens here, you know, at the
deadline. But ultimately I think hewill get a chance to get up here.
I don't think, you know,I think he's been playing well.

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We have our eyes pierced on him, and so we can read the box
scores, we can read the data, the information, and we also get
a lot of good information from ourcoaching staff. So ultimately, hopefully he
keeps it up. And I thinkthat there's a good chance that he's going
to be here at some point thisyear, like post deadline. You're talking

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about just to see what happens inthe next week, Dan, Is that
what you're referring to. Yeah,I don't want to put a timeline on
it, but you know, there'syou know, there's a chance that he
could get here. I mean,that's basically a nutshell because he is playing
well and you know, at somepoint, you know, he may get
this opportunity. So hopefully he continuesto play well, which I think he

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will because he seems to be lockedin, and then he'll get his opportunity.
Awesome, all right, Dana Brownjoins us as he does every Wednesday
at night thirty astros GM. Right, big trade, big arm. You've
you've mentioned, you know, howimportant pitching is and going out there and
getting that kind of deal. Firstoff, explain to me when you say
big arm, big trade, whatkind of what does that deal look like?

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And I know you can't give names, but what kind of player does
that look like? And what kindof people you're going to have to part
with to make that happen. Yeah, I mean if you could lock down,
you know, a third or fourthstarter in this market, you know,
that would be that would be great, you know, And of course
it's going to cost you something.You know, at the end of the

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day, no one's going to giveyou a good player for a bad player.
You know, we have a lotof information data, scouting reports,
makeup reports, and so those guysare doing their due diligence and so ultimately
you're going to have to give upsomething in order to get something. But
it will be nice if we canlock down a third or fourth starter and
put them in our mix. Youknow, it may you know, it

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may be really difficult to try toget a number one or two. It's
just you know, in this market, getting a one or two is probably
slim to none. But you know, if you can get a big three
starter or really good fourth starter,I think that really adds to our mix
and it puts it in a situationwhere we can run off some games and
get on some type of winning streetbecause then at that point you're you're in

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a position when you're getting quality startsevery day and you know you're not down
by three or four in the thirdinning. So you know, we're working
our tail off to try to comeup with something. There's a few on
the market that we're focused on.Okay, quick, and getting back to
this, you slim and none forlike a one or a two arm.

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Have you tried to inquire about anumber one arm? Yeah, we're in
the market of acquiring the best picturepossible, you know, and if we
if we can get it one ortwo, be great, right. You
know, I don't think there's aclub out there that don't you know that
that wouldn't want a one or two. Uh, it's just that there's not

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a lot of ones and two's outthere that are that are available. That's
part of the problem. Do youneed more than one arm? Do you
need more than one arm like abullpen and a starter or is it just
settled on we need one guy?Yeah, I mean we ultimately we can
lock down a starter, we feel, we feel really good about that,
and then if you add another bullpenpiece, that's you know, that's a

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good thing too. So we're workingour tails off, you know, trying
to you know, get add somepitching to the mix. You know,
we got some you know back endof our bullpen. You know, they
worked really hard in the first halfand you know they were they were in
the grind. You know, theykept us in it, and so we
can give them somewhat of a breakand have another arm back there. Give

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each guy you know a next yearday or two breather each week. That
may pay big difends down the road. So you know, getting a starter
would be the priority. But youknow, if we can, if we
can land a bullpen arm at thesame time, that would be that would
be very interesting and good for ourclub as well. Dan have you guys

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inquired about a bat or do youthink you don't need one to be a
World Series team? Yeah? Imean, look, we're trying to improve
the club the best we could,and if we can add a bat that
makes sense for us, without youknow, giving away too much, you
know, that could be interesting aswell. So we're looking at all avenues,

(02:27:24):
you know, anything that we cando to improve this team. As
I said, the priority is astarter. And if we can, you
know, somehow add an extra bullpinarm or even some type of bat,
you know, that would be beneficialto this club as well. But the
most important, without a question,is a starter. All right, Dan,

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let me, let me, letme get to do you find it
difficult es your second year here inHouston. You've been in Atlanta and had
a long run in baseball. Doyou find and we'll specifically speak to Houston
because of their success and there's sevenyears in a row in the ALCS and
they're good, and people around baseballthere's still this ooh, the Astros getting
hot like you guys did, andeverybody nationally knows the Astros are they're one

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guy or this guy away from beinga World Series team, and teams know
that and they're also still looms twentyseventeen when you weren't here, the cat
calls in the stands and all that, and people know that too. Do
you find teams are reluctant to dealwith you because of your success and whatever
their hang up is on the pastbefore you got here? Are they reluctant

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to deal with you because they don'twant to give you a fighting chance to
go do this again knowing your success? No, I don't feel like that,
you know, I don't feel likethat at all. You know,
I've had really good conversations with otherclubs. I don't think that, you
know, these other clubs had egosin terms of acquiring you know, young
talent and prospects. If you ifyou have the goods, I think they're

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in you know, And that's that'sthe bottom line. These clubs they want
they want good players. They don'tcare about, you know, your past
success. They want good young players. And if I think if we have
a good young player to give them, you know, you know, we've
got a chance of making a deal, you know. And then you know
the part of that too, youknow, do we want to give up

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that player? And so there's achess match in terms of you know,
who do you give up? Howmuch do you give up? But I've
found that the teams engage with mewith good dialogue, and I don't think
that's the problem at all. Danny, do you believe when the trade deadline
ends, as a fan base andeven you guys, they will be saying,

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Wow, needle moving for the Astros. Yeah, I think we've got
a chance to move the needle.You know, we just have to get
this. We just have to getthis deal done. If we can get
a deal done, so there isdefinitely a chance. I mean, that's
our goal that we want to movethe needle. We want to get you
know, we want to acquire apitcher that's going to really impact our rotation.

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You know, we would like toget an arm in the back end
of the pen or I should sayin the middle of the pen that you
know, could take some of theheat off our back end and that that
would also move the needle. Soyou know, we're we're in the grind
trying to get it done, andI think that's what the goal is,
and we feel like we're making progress. And I'll end with this and it's

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the obligatory Verland or Kyle Tucker.Any progress? I mean we you know,
I know you talk about all thetime at nauseum, but is there
any progress? Are we any closerany timeline to seeing one or both of
them? Yeah? I think Verlanderis really making a good progress. As
I mentioned last last time or theother day, he's up to like forty

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seven pitches, he's not sore.The next day he's touching ninety ninety one,
And so that's progress for us.I mean, you get you start
throwing sidelines up to forty five,fifty pitches, up to ninety ninety one,
no pain or no issues. Thenext day, you know he's got
another bullpen coming up. So that'sreal, that's real progress. You know,

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Tucker, he's starting light baseball activityon the field. He's continuing to
hit inside of the cages. He'sstill fighting through soreness and swelling in that
area you know where he filed theball, fill the ball off, and
it really just it's like crush thebone. It's just like really hurt.

(02:31:33):
I'm sure you know that deep boombruise. It's it's achy. And so
the soreness, he's fighting through thatand every day he gets better. So
if he can get through that soreness, you know, I think, and
they start to do more baseball activitiesin terms of running. And I mentioned
before how much Tucker uses his lowerhats. He's a he's the base dealer.

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He's got power. We've seen thisswing, you know, the torque
that he puts on his lower half. I mean, he's he needs,
he needs, he needs to befully healthy. And so you know,
I think he's making progress, uh, you know, slower than we had
expected initially, but you know,he's making progress. We can't wait to

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get him back. Trust me,We're we're in this grind every day without
him. So we would feel alot better real quick before I let you
go with Tucker because of the usageof his lower body and runs and does
all the things he does, andthe pain is still the swelling and is
still a lot of pain and justmoves slow moving. Is there a chance
and we won't see him till September? I would be really disappointed if it

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was September. I think he's makingenough progress and moving around enough. You
know, if he if he wasin a cast, that would be something
different. He's actually doing Baseball Actidney. So you know, we're off a
mystic that it should be before September. The problem is we just don't have

(02:33:05):
a timeline right now because it's basedon how he feels. And you know,
that's the daily thing where you wakeup that morning, Hey, how's
it going. Do you feel likeyou can really push off today? And
that's basically where we are. Imean for those of us you know,
who have had similar soreness, youknow, we all get it. You

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know, some days you wake upit's really achey, and other days you
feel a little bit better. Andthe key with Tucker is he's got to
be able to shift, he's gotto be able to put pressure on it,
he's got to be able to changedirections. And once we start to
see him do that, you know, at a quick pace. You know,
I think he can move and cutright now, but I don't think

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he could do it at a rapidpace. And so once he gets to
that point, I think we'll bein the clear and then we can get
him out before rehab and and andand get him back on the field.
Appreciate you go get this wind today and we'll look forward to seeing you
back home for a couple series.It'll be fun to watch. Appreciate it,
Dana. Thank you. Talk toyou next Wednesday. We've come a
long way. Yeah, we've comea long way and we're still fighting and

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just to be in first place,you know, before this trade deadline is
over. I think that's a goodaccomplishment. We just have to keep it
going. Yeah, good luck gettingthat arm man. We appreciate you.
Thanks. That's Danon Brown, butI appreciate it. We'll discuss more.
I think you can tell that thatthey want a plethora armed stuff. Yeah.
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Brian Leemas sent you and together,let's drive and we've the The Sean Salisbury
Show continued. An arm is firstpriority. Starting arm and then get a
one or two. They're gonna doit. Uh, He says, it's
slim chance because people aren't giving themup and what you'd have to give up.
But a three or four would begreat. Not out of the question

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of bat, not out of thequestion of back into the bullpen guy.
So they they looking for a couplearms in a bat and hopefully they can
get something done. But he saysthey're working hard to do it. So
Brian, I uh yeah, Iuh and the paid really on. You
know what I got, And I'mgonna read between the lines as we do
every week. In the next twoweeks, Petry Loan's gonna be playing here

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because one of these guys is gonnabe I believe one of the out put
it this way in August. Don'tyou get the hunt he's gonna be up.
You don't want to put a timeto you when he said, uh,
well he may, we may.I believe he'll be at the big
league love we Yeah, it's it'sI think it's happening sooner than later because
I think one of those veteran outfielderstrade gone. That's my that he didn't

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say it. I believe that's goingto happen. And I think one of
the young prospects you can tell toget a good arm, one of the
young prospects is going to have togo. Yeah, and that he even
said he goes. People love youngprospects, young players that are good,
and so it'll sting and it's goingto have to if you want that arm.
So with that and he feels it, nobody's he doesn't have trouble dealing

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with teams that did because the Astrosare good. You know, the reputation
of the Astros and knowing they're good, people are still willing to deal with
them to get good young players.So we'll see. But uh, something's
going to be done, and justa question is is it going to be?
That's why I had to press iton have you tried for a one
or two? So they still wouldlike a one or two, but you

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know, the investment and what you'regoing to get ROI and what you're going
to give up maybe a little moredifficult than you want it to be.
So that'll be a tough one.But an arm or two are coming,
brother, we suggested. There's that. And then also I think it'll be
September for Kyle Tucker. That's myopinion. Why do you think? I
just you know, like if it'san everyday thing that he's still not getting
out of bed healthy, Yeah,I would imagine that. Bat. That's

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why I said, I want tosay the whole season because you want to
be more optimistic, right, butit doesn't feel to me and not dating
it to me from the conversation,Yes, that there's enough pain free and
with all the movement he has toget him playing in August, plus a
rehab and stuff. I think you'relooking at September. First week is September.
I almost feel you'd be fortunate fromthe stage of it. A week

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from this Saturday will be August third. That'll be two months without Kyle Tucker,
and I would start looking at Septemberthird, Labor day time. Yeah,
that's my prediction as well. I'mright there with you, all right,
that's gonna do it. Good stufftoday, fellows. That was Astro's
general manager Dana Brown. If youmiss it'll be up on the blog after
the show at Sports seven ninety dotcom. He is Sean Salisbury. Our
producer Triple Emmanuel Elmore, IM BrianLeema. Thank you for listening. We're

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