Astros Open Series Against Rays, Kikuchi's First Start, HOF Game Recap, NFL's Newest Rules

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury, the USC.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
It was canceled the third quarter.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, and uh, Simone Biles, Katie Leadecki, two of the
greatest to ever do it in the Olympics. More gold
for them, Sewn tripley. What's happening steps Friday?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
This Friday? Love Fridays.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Indeed, indeed, hey man, all I know is canceled, canceled
the parade, dude, John Whitmer, don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
Texans lose, They're done.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, preseason game finished, done, especially if the only play
a little more than a half one, it's done.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Not good man, I don't know what they're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We had better dive deep, gotta break break down what's
going on with him? All the weaknesses and we saw
last night and strengths, and and.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
We would we would not be uh doing our due
diligence if we didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
The camp Akers probably win the MVP Award.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
He actually looked pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, he did a lot of bursts. I liked it. Yeah,
he did come back, will be nice.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Brett RiPP is it ripping. Brett Rippion was ripping balls
for the Bears. Ripping, Brett Ripping.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, the Ripper, as we like to call him, Brett.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Rippin was ripping footballs for the Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
We call his dad Chief, Okay, jad is his uncle,
Uncle Mark Ripping, former Super Bowl MVP, the Ripper. That's
former Washington Redskins super Bowl MVP. My class in college.
One of my favorite people on the planet, that Mark Ripping.
That's it. That's his Uh, that's his nephew. I think
he's uncles, the uncle Mark, So it's his one of

(01:57):
his family members. I think it's his sisters Sun. But yeah,
a good college player, a little run in Denver and
look like a player and got some energy and he
the good DNA in the family. Good DNA in the family.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
So oh, by the way, Uh, some more news and
notes as we start the show.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Mike Trout's gonna be out for the season again.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, you know what, it's it's it's It really is
a bummer because we've talked about guys whose careers were
not going to even even though we've seen phenomenal that
you're never going to get the most out of it
because Andrew, like Kim Griffy Jr. On one of what
his numbers would have been like minus all the injuries
that he had, you know, getting beat up and where
the home run record would be naturally for him, And

(02:45):
then you look at it's the same thing. Trout falls
under this. I mean, he's one MVP after MVP, puts
up monster numbers in like half seasons and three quarter seasons,
and we're still really never going to ever see his
great because even though he'll end up in the Hall
of Fame, it could have the numbers he throughout his

(03:06):
career that he could put up if he was durable
or when that almost sounds like you're ripping him, but
you know part of that, whether it's threshold of pain
or durability, he just seems to follow him around. Think
about the career. You're going to say he had probably
the best player in your era, and you still didn't
get to see enough of him because he's been hurt

(03:28):
like every year. So we'll lose out on all the
greatness because you're never going to see him. I don't
know we're going to see him finish a full season again.
But I mean he's been he's such a special player,
but he's done it in such in such abbreviated fashion,
with all the injuries. He said, it's a bummerman, But

(03:51):
it doesn't surprise me because this has unfortunately been the
path of his career. Injured a lot, and when MVPs
that's about the way it is enough.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Their meniscus tear, Yeah, and it was in his surgically
repaired left knee.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's for he's fortunate that the meniscus he's gonna be
okay with that. If he was on his third overall
ACL reconstruction of his knee, it did be I'd be
a little more concerned. But he can the meniscus. Guys
get that cleaned out and stuff on a regular basis.

(04:27):
I mean, obviously, once you break the knee down, the
strength around it can be the muscle around can be stronger,
but the knee is not the same. But he's fortunate
meniscus wise that that's a little less you know, at
least has been in the past. And I don't know
where the doctors are pretty fascinating and amazing now, but
it's better than you know, having three achilles or three

(04:50):
acls that I do know.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
All right, here's the here's the question for you.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Who returns first, Mike Trout, Anson mccullor's junior or Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well both Tug tuckerl Tuck. Tucker will gets some in
this year. But I'm not sure how much that's I'm manifesting.
I don't. I don't see him. I don't see him
being full strength in the next thirty days. So there's
that with Trout, he will be meniscus will not keep

(05:25):
him out. He'll be ready for He'll be ready for
spring training. I mean plenty of time. He'll be ready
to he'd be ready to play with this in December,
depending on you know, how that rehab goes. But he'll
he'll open the season on ready to play the miniscus.
Let's nothing else happened. If something else happens, but nothing

(05:46):
else happens, he'll be ready to play. And I can't
imagine it's a nine month bone bruise for Kyle Tucker.
So those two, I'm I'm still not convinced Lance mccullors
will ever pitch again for the Astros. Make another pitch,
I mean, are you no? Are you conod I don't
make a p I don't think his career is done.
I'm misunderstanding, but I don't know. Well, maybe I should

(06:08):
say we'll he ever make another start in a regular
season game for the Astros.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
You know, I And in regards to Lance mccullor's junior,
I don't think he's going to pitch it all this season.
And I think what they will do is they will
give him an opportunity in spring training to prove to
them that he can stay.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Healthy, right, and if he is, then then you will
so twenty twenty five. But I would say my biggest
concern would be him over the long haul compared to
the other two. Both but both those guys will be
ready to play opening day. Hopefully Lance will be ready
to pitch opening day. I mean that's a long time
still and he should be, you know, if, especially if
he doesn't pitch this year to get it rehabs or

(06:45):
ready to go. I just said I'm not convinced he'd
start in other games because I know what happens if
he has a setback next spring. I know what I'm
rooting for, But you can't. I don't think your expectations
can be overly high. You're you're should be most hope
fully the Tucker he is back playing and contributing big

(07:05):
sometime in September, because we're on August second, and there's
not a we'll last next week at this time when
we interviewed Dana Brown on Wednesday, five days from now,
I doubt there'll be a lot of change from Kyle
Tucker's injury, do you. I doubt he'll be doing a
whole lot more.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
No, I think it was. Let me double check. I'm
pretty sure it was Brian McTaggart.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
He was on with.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Our Matt Thomas show yesterday. Make sure it wasn't him, or.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Excuse me. I just want sorry, I was about to sneeze.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I just want to make sure it wasn't He wasn't
with Yeah, he was with the Matt Thomas Show. He
basically said that Kyle Tucker is nowhere near a rehab start,
like going down for a rehab assignment.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So well, if you're nowhere near that, that means and
I trust right.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Here he goes, sorry, it was let me quote, not
close to a minor league rehab assignment end quote.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I trust Brian mctaggard through and through completely. I don't.
I mean, if he's still noticeable limp and he's not
doing any of that. How is he going to be
ready to go by August first? I mean by September first.
I mean we're gonna wake up and all of a
sudden it's going to feel like a million bucks five

(08:27):
days from now. Linger, I don't know. I don't know.
The truth is this is one of the more puzzling
injuries I don't know enough about. I know, bone bruises.
I mean, obviously it's severe, but I don't know enough
about his situation away from at the ballpark and the rehabit.
How bad that hurts when he puts his front foot
in the ground, I don't know. I mean it must

(08:48):
hurt pretty bad since he has he's not doing anything.
So if that's threshold, and if it's still damaged and
he can't do it and he's not anywhere near being
ready to do for a minor league side, you're not
seeing him till September if you're fortunate. If this and
who knows how it's going to be. Is there any
setbacks between now and then? Will it be healthy? I

(09:11):
tell you the team could use him as for damn sure.
I mean they're good, but they can that bat in
your lineup at left handed bat and a guy that
can do everything would be nice. It's amazing that they're
hanging in there considering all this. I mean, I know
that sounds like go astros all the time, and I
know we root for him, but it really is. I mean,

(09:32):
I don't know a lot of teams that could be
hanging in with your best all around player out for
a significant amount of time, pitcher after pitcher after pitcher
after pitcher after pitcher out. I don't know how you
can even be hanging in there. You've had some help
from your friends along the way, but I don't see how.
I don't see how you can think that Kyle Tucker

(09:53):
is going to be swinging a bat here in two
weeks on the major league in a major league baseball game.
So heck, we're probably two weeks away from me being
considered for a minor league start, right.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I don't even think it's going to be that, to
be honest with.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah, I said, that's why it's minted in two weeks.
So even if it starts to creep towards late August
and he hasn't had one, so what's that making mid September. Yeah,
I guess we should hope that during the stretch run
Kyle Tucker's available late late regular season, early postseason, that
he's in the lineup going. I guess that's become the hope.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Now, God's crazy, Yeah it is. It's just even while
that we're having this discussion.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think it's nuts, man, it really is. But I
who would have thought when that ball filed office in
that we'll be talking August second, Tomorrow's two months. It's nuts.
That's got to be a painful injury because I can't
fathom when it first happens, you say, oh, he missed
the game, Okay, see in a couple of days, and

(10:52):
here we are damn near sixty days later.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Wow, ye wow, just insane. We'll talk astros later on
in the show. Texans got after it last night in
the Hall of Fame game. It was cut short due
to rain and severe weather, but there were some bright
spots for the backups and the rookies that played in
the game last night. Let's take a look at it
next on Sports Talk seven to eighty.

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Speaker 2 (12:56):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
I'm yours, your rockets, your voice.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Andre Johnson's gonna be enshrine in the Hall of Fame
on Saturday tomorrow. Davis Mills got the start for the Texans,
and uh, I know it's just a you know, preseason game,
but he looks pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, and it is preseason, but there's still gotta make throws.
Davis Mills is going to be in the league a
long time ran he is. He's that guy who's I
mean kaith Keenan. You can start games, he can be
a solid backup. He's smart, doesn't need a lot of

(13:47):
work to to keep ready. We'll stay on top of it.
Not gonna pout about it. You're not gonna hear him
say much. He's just gonna go about his business. Guys
like that that just did a reliable Now you may
not right now say well I like him, and he
may get his starting quarterback chance somewhere else at some point.
You never know how this is going to happen. To

(14:07):
case Keenum, he was in midway through his career, started
to get some more starts. He played a bunch of
different places and has been and reliable. That's why people
keep picking guys like that up because they know that
they can count on him to play. They don't count
on him to be a superstar. But those guys you
have to have, especially at that position, support the starter

(14:28):
when it's your turn to start. You may not get
a lot of work, dude, but we expect you to win.
I know that movie and he that doesn't mean it's listen,
we're going to third with his third year in the league.
This will be his fourth, but he's played three. Is
he's now you should expect him to play like that.
I mean the mental start, the mental part starts to

(14:51):
roll in and he starts to get understanding that three
years now in the league, even though you know last
year didn't get a lot of reps. But you still
you watch CJ. Stroud and you support him and you
are a set of eyes and ears and when you
get to start, get to play, we're counting on you.
It may be the one or two games that they
are the difference in winning the division or half in
a battle for a wild guard? Is it really? Is

(15:13):
that fine slippery of slope. So you're I'm telling you
he's a guy that you're you'll go around and say, okay,
I can rely on him, and then the next team
will pick him up if he's not here in the
next team. But he's auditioning too, not just for now.
But don't kid yourself. David Mills wants to be a
starting quarterback again. And that doesn't mean two or three
years from now somewhere else he can't. It's not going

(15:35):
to be here unless somebody gets hurt. We know that
but you're still got to go out and have a
responsibility to teammates that can trust you and the coaching staff,
regardless how somebody in Buffalo feels about you know, or
here feels about Davis Mills. He knows the job at hand,
and you're one play away from him having to be
a playoff quarterback, so you know you don't want that

(15:56):
to happen. But Davis Mills is going to be a solid.
He'll be a guy in the league for a long
time because you can trust him without him having to
be now sustaining a starter. Who knows if that's going
to be a gig for him. I'm sure that's what
he wants. But here, if he's here and stays here
and is on this team for a while, even after,

(16:17):
you know, when his contract comes up and he's a backup,
we'll see who's making him out giving him opportunities. He's
going to want a chance to compete again. So is
he a lifer here? Probably not. Backups that want to
start and that have started want to go play, and
he's in the infancy of his career. So but I
didn't expect anything less from him. I don't expect anything

(16:37):
less from his performance to go. And you've got to
have a guy in that role that can you can do,
you can trust, and the players believe could win games.
And he's won some games. You may not want a
bunch of him. He's not are we compared him with CJ.
Strout or other guys in his position in the league.
So I think you're going to continue to learn to
trust Davis Mills, regardless of the reps and the more

(16:59):
years ago on the less practice work. You need to
be prepared to play because you know how to study
and prepare, and that'll be Davis Mills.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, Davis Mills last night in the action that he
had ten to thirteen throwing one hundred and two yards
one touchdown, was not sacked. Case Keenum seven to nine
seventy eight yards one touchdown, and then Tim Boyle two
to five seventeen yards no touchdowns. Obviously, the game being
cut in the third quarter, which kind of sucks for
some of these guys because, like you said, they're auditioning, right,

(17:30):
So with the game being cut in the third quarter
because the severe weather came through, some of these guys
aren't going to get the reps that they need.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, think about this. The Hall of Fame game is
an extra game, right, you get an extra game. If
I'm not mistaken, they still three more Yeah, so that
extra game gives a guy who's a bubble player a
chance to shine one more time. And it is. It's
a fact. Now you people at home like, okay, cool,
third quarter. It's a bummer. It's been delayed thirty plus.

(18:00):
Let's just cancel, all right. But the guy who is
waiting to shine at the Hall of Fame game to
show the coaches a player two on special teams, a
catcher two and at the receiving corps, a tackle or
two in the secondary, that that sucked for him. So
now he's back down. Okay, I still got you know,
three moments or three opportunities. So yes, And for the Texans,

(18:23):
while it's an extra game, it does. You're not evaluating
Davis Mills in the Hall of Fame game for the
most part. Now maybe you are. But when I say
evaluating it, it's not like you're like, oh my gosh,
the the Hall of Fame game, you're going to make
or break Davis Mills being our backup quarterback or not.
Now that's not it's a part of it, but you're
looking for those bodies. That extra games, an extra chance

(18:45):
to see cam Akers, that's a great opportunity to see,
well does he have some explosion back? And you saw
some of it, so and uh, and you think about it,
the depth of the three with with Stroud and Mills
and and case Keenum, if that's going to be the
three again, I mean, how many guys are really he'll
be labeled the three. I know he played in place

(19:07):
of Mills when Stroud missed you know the first you
know last year with the concussion. But when you think
about it, that's three pretty good quarterback You got pretty
good depth there. Keenum who's played a lot of football.
Mills has had some good starts early in his career,
which a third round pick three years in usually doesn't
have that many starts under his belt. He's battling to

(19:29):
try and get to be a starter because you're playing
the first rounder or the free agent, big money guy,
and then Stroud, who we know what he is. So yeah,
that extra game is a bummer. They got cut off
for those guys, so you're looking for that, but it,
you know, the quarterback positions in good hands for the Texans. Okay,
the third guy's got more experienced than the other two combined.

(19:49):
Now think about that in case keenum so and you
don't want it to come into play, but it's rare
that you get to go through a season or a
series or something where it doesn't come into play. Hopefully
not have to see it. But it's a good comfort
to have it. That game cut off somebody's opportunity to
get on tape ten fifteen twelve, you know, eighteen snaps
in the second half.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, you mentioned cam Acres, Let's talk about him. He
performed extremely well last night coming off of an achilles tear.
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Speaker 2 (22:27):
And DeShawn Salisbury show continued. Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
In this women's swim team, they won silver in the
four by two. That makes her the most decorated female
Olympian of all time. I believe thirteen total medals in
her career.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Demiko Ryans after the game last night, spoke about Camacres.
Camacres performed extremely well. You saw some burst with him
five carries thirteen yards.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
He did some things out of the backfield as well,
two receptions eighteen yards. This is what head coach Demiko
Ryans had to say about Cam Akers.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Cam made a couple of nice plays.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
I think everybody saw the plays that Cam made running
the football and also with the receiving touchdown. Cam has
a very you know, just savvy way of slipping off
the tacklers making plays. So I like where Cam was
tonight and he showed some playmaking ability which.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
He has shown in the past.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
Just a matter of Cam continue to get reps and
build up of what he's done.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
So if you look at Cam Akers, Sean and honestly
a woo woomba, a woo goa, my goodness, a woomba
walle we saw what he he contributed to the team
last year. You have Joe Mixon, you have Damian Pierce,
and then you could add in guys that will play
some sort of role. That's a pretty deep running back

(23:48):
room as well, especially if Cam Akers can continue to
get his feet under him quite literally because of the
Achilles tear and get back into the flow of an
NFL game. But just from the small sand we saw
last night between those two running backs, you know, that
it was a good thing to see because you need
depth at running back position.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, I'm assuming that last night to come away from
that to two quarters plus of a game did just
the offensive staff and Damiko rans if you were looking
for something to stick out to you that you may
not learned a lot about a lot of players last
night because of the weather situation, but he's one of them.

(24:27):
And I think going in you wanted to find out, Okay,
we need depth. With depth, there is a good thing.
Who's cam akers now? And I think you got a little.
I mean, while it's a small sample size, the sample
size looked pretty good. He looked closer to the cam
makers where he used to see in the burst and
the guy who's been you know, been through some injury stuff.

(24:48):
So if he's healthy and ready to go, that's a
good sign. So you saw that, and I think that's
something you start to gather the good things you can
pull out of a really an abbreviated football game, and
that was one of them. I'm sure you know you
find those guys. Every guy in the room, every coach
should I say every personnel group or every position grouping

(25:09):
the coach in there will find something to say, Okay,
we didn't get much out of it, but we got
something out of it, and what we did get we liked.
And I think cam Akers to me was one of standout.
May sound a little bit hyperbolic, but stood out on
a guy that I guarantee you not only for him,
but for that football team that there was a little
extra focus on to find out what kind of player

(25:31):
they were getting. Last night was a good start for him.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, and this is Demiko Ryans. He was asked if
he was surprised with the performance from cam Akers.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
No, I'm not surprised from cam He's done it and
the pass done it for a long time, so I'm
not surprised by what he's done. I think it's all
about him just getting healthy, getting his feedback under him,
getting back at shape. But he has to play making ability.
He showed that really early in his career. It's a
matter of him just getting the opportunity is all right.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
And me and Demiko Ryan's on the same page. Getting
his feet eat under him. You like that coach talk
at six thirty seven in the morning.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, get it, get behind your pads. That's another thing.
Running backs, all, how do you running backs always got
to get behind their pads. Well you know what I do.
I don't want to be in front of them, okay,
because I need them, So get behind him and push
them right into the power. You got to get behind
your pads, dude, you got to. But yeah, feet underneath
him and Dimiko hadn't you know, I had to spend

(26:25):
some time game planning against the guy when he was
with the Rams, right, So he's seen him as a
defensive coordinator watching tape, so he wanted to see some
of that. And I think he and Bobby slogan, I
think you got a chance to see that he flows
pretty well and at least in early returns in the
system and just you know, just stay healthy and let's

(26:46):
see if we can't get good depth there with he
and mixing. And you know, obviously the situation with Damian Pierce,
so turns goes from a we need an upgrade of
the vision to we got a couple upgrades the position,
and if the Damian Pierce continues to develop, then you
got a deep running back room to deepest important receiver room.

(27:08):
You're looking for that quarterback room, wide receiver room. I mean,
there's the three skilled positions on offense. They're they're they
got a pretty good and deep experience room, which is
a good thing.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Seven one three, two, one, two, five seven nine of
the skat outs of the phone lines talk to Damien Damien,
good morning.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
How you guys doing?

Speaker 8 (27:27):
Is one?

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Good brother? What's on your mind?

Speaker 8 (27:30):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (27:31):
Good question Sean. Two quick questions. Uh, started watching the
game last night and it didn't dawn on me, and
today they had shoulder got this new rule change. Can
you kind of explain that to me a little bit
better as it pertains to the uh, to the kickoffs?
I kind of I understood it a little bit, but
then it kind of lost me a little bit. I mean,

(27:52):
what do you think about that? And uh, are there
any negatives or are you feel there any benefits to that?
And one last question real quick, I want to ask
you about the kid. Well he's a young man now,
but the guy that used to kind of was under
your tutelage mentorship about was it the Woodland High School
of Conroe or something like that.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
I forget his name, Maybury, but.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, Maybury Mtoyer.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
He is he is king.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Here's fresh freshman year at University of Wisconsin. They love him.
I spent a lot of time talking to the offensive
coordinator with the Badgers, and he's progressing. He's they went
they got like a fifth year senior, a transfer that'll
probably start the kid from I think he's from Miami,
the quarterback from Miami last year. But Maybury went to school,

(28:39):
you know, left high school early, is you know, midway through,
is like all the guys doing in January, and went
out there for spring practice and I worked with him
when he came back for spring break. He looks great.

Speaker 9 (28:51):
He is.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
He's in about two twenty five, about six five, six
four and a half. He's moving, he's his mechanics are
solid and sound, and they expect big things from him
in the future. So there's uh, he's progressing, not only
quite nicely, but uh, I think they're really high on
his ability and rightfully so. The guy's a freaky talent

(29:13):
and now it's just getting used to playing college football
and when your opportunity presents itself. But he's well coached,
Phil long Phil Longo knows what he's doing offensively. So yeah,
thanks for asking. Maybury's doing well, and we obviously whenever
we get a chance, when he comes home during a break,
we get work in so he's mechanically sound, and he
got his taste of college football in the spring and
is really excited to be at Wisconsin and it's going

(29:34):
to be one hell of a schedule for him from
the Woodlands to the Big Ten. That'll be awesome. As
far as the other one, Brian, I'm looking up because
I took her, I made I got the print out
or when I say print out, I went and got myself.
You know, the exact rules, and we'll pull him up
for him, he said, I think you mentioned he cut out.
He was talking about the special team's kickoff. Correct correct, correct? Yeah,

(29:54):
I will, well, we'll tell you what it would make
it pretty simple when we come back. What have because
I did, I took screenshot to make sure I have
the rules and I'm just gonna pull it up or
we'll find it. But I can tell you this, I
don't I think it's a gimmick. And the really the distance.
They did it to keep safety involved and also enhance returns.

(30:16):
And you know what the difference was from last year
the returns to say a yard, It was a yard,
So that really go read the article at least early
on the impact is it was. There was no big
returns or any of that. So we'll go through them.
But I think it's a gimmick, and I don't know
why we always have to. I mean, it's a physical game.
Guys are going to get hurt. You try to limit it,

(30:38):
but a kickoff's a big part of the game. I
don't know why we continue to take special teams out
of it and living them. They're trying to put it
back in, but I don't think it's going to be
that impactful. And I think it's stupid that you can
only onside kick when you warned. So, I mean some
of the things we do, it's right out of elementary school.
We change rules just to change rules in the NFL.
So we'll get those, you know, those onside kick and

(30:59):
kick offf rules for you, and they're pretty easy to understand.
But I'm not a big fan, Brian. I don't know
if you are, but I do not like them. We
just we gimmick it way too much. Let's just play
some football and protect where protections needed. We're getting to
a point when you overprotect you get rid of the
integrity of football. Just you know, I'd rather eliminate cheap

(31:19):
shot guys. The physical hits are going to happen, and
the kickoffs and on site kicks are part of the game.
I don't know why we continue to adjust this stuff
when to me, kick it off, let's go play. I
want more returns in the game, not less. Okay, I
want more to which I know they're trying to enhance,
but do it safety wise with how many people get
to go cover. Yeah, I'm not a big mess with

(31:43):
something that I don't think needs fixed. If it ain't broke,
don't fix it. You've heard that first time ever. Yeah, thanks, man,
I appreciate it. That's a that's a that's the way
of digging into your bag of tricks. Man, that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yeah, you're welcome.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Bruh well, b Yeah, we'll go through the new kickoff
rule in the NFL at debuted last night at the
Hall of Fame Games.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Talking about a next on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
To eighty.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues continue.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
That debuted in the game last night, and I've got
obviously I have on paper and I know Sean you
do as well. The new kickoff rule and how it's
explained but Joe Buck did a really good job of
explaining it last night.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
And this is this Try to follow it here.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
This is Joe Buck on the call last night explaining
the new kickoff rules in the NFL.

Speaker 10 (32:40):
Have seen in the NFL, teams kickoff from the thirty five.
The ten players and the kicking team started the opponent's forty.
At least nine receiving team players must be in the
setup zone between their own thirty and thirty five play.
It begins with the balls touched or hits the ground
in the end zone or landing zone, the area between
the receiving teams goal line and the twenty. Touchbacks that

(33:03):
land in the end zone are brought out to the thirty.
Touchbacks that roll into the end zone from the landing
zone are brought out to the twenty.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
You got all that.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
We're we're gonna hang on for dear life tonight.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
But man, is it gonna be fun to watch this
on fun.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
So that's Joe Buck and obviously Troy Ikmen coming in
late in that audio. They were on the call glass
on on ESPN.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
All right, Sean, you can't have a kicker go down
past the fifty until the ball hits the ground. You
can actually now have twelve men on the field possible.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
You can't saw that.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, if it's windy, you got guy. The guy will
hold the ball or you know weather. But he can't
be in on the play. He basically is the t
he can't be able to play. I mean you certain
you get a certain about of like jokes play. I
could walk you through it all. I mean, I know
you got it too. It is and I said, it's
really not that difficult to understand when you listen to

(33:53):
without seeing it. It is difficult to understand because you
try to follow it. So David, I'm with you. My man,
just know this. They want more excitement, less injuries, so okay,
but they run out. I mean it's so gimmicky. I
feel like you're watching. Well, you guys got to wait
and you go down. We're going to take special teams

(34:15):
out of it. We want more offense, which means we
want the ball spotted. It can be spotted at three
different places and coming out of a penalty. Then there's
you know, how it affects the kick and where you
can get it and when the guy can bring it out,
and how many guys get to go down. It's nuts
and you shouldn't have to think that much of a kickoff,

(34:35):
back the ball up, kick it off and go cover it. Okay,
well all the guys, I don't know why. Well, statistics
say one more guy a year blows his knee out.
I mean, you know we've already eliminated about as many
collisions as you can with. No you know you can't,
you know, put the wall up and hold hands, you know,
with the wedge busters and all that stuff. Think about
the games back then, when guys would run back, grab hands,

(34:58):
load up, be the wedge. You have what we call
a wedgebuster fly down the field, and his job was
to break the wedge up. So dive his full body
and they break up the wedge. So somebody else coming
and make the tackle. That's how it used to play.
So I understand safety and will there'll be some say, well,
we got to keep all the players safe. It's impossible

(35:18):
to do. Well. We got to improve the opportunity. Yes,
I know we do, but we also know that just
keep them above the waist, you know, or if you
want to make rules on tackling. But I I just
the gimmicks to me. I'm sure some love it. I'm
sure they do, but I just think we've made special
teams on afterthought, you know I do the best special

(35:40):
teams thing we ever did was making them move back
to kick an extra point. Put a little pressure on
the kicker late in the game. A guy can snap
pook a thirty five yard or so. But I'm not
big on the on the and I'm not big on
me having to tell you and you getting to tell
me when I can onside kick.

Speaker 9 (35:58):
O.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
What Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:00):
That parts suck?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah? So who was it?

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Sean Payton?

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Didn't he didn't they surprise onside kick to start the
second half of a Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, so now you can't have that. Well, it says
here the NFL rules will fundamentally change the new rules
and see onside kick the returnmate, Well, there's a returnmate
on kickoffs. I'm trying to find the exact verbiage for
on side kicks because you go through it, and Joe
Buck probably got a headache trying to have to explain

(36:35):
all that to everybody and go through it, because I
guarantee it's a learning experience for them, even on a
broadcasting Okay, what this worst ball supposed to go? But yeah,
that's exactly what Sean Payton did, and that's exactly why
you should be able to do it any way you want. Well,
the onside kick, let's see here it is the onside

(36:56):
kick rule. The alignment kickoff rules will impack the leaguess
on side kick rules will be allowed. Under the new rules,
the trailing team will have the right to declare it
to the official. You got to tell the official you
want an onside kick. After that, the current onside kickoff
rules would apply now, but you have to warn them.
Presumably that would mean the trailing team would attempt an
onside kick from its own thirty five yard line with

(37:17):
a classic kickoff rules in effect. The NFL didn't immediately
clarify that, however, It simply noted that if an onside
kick goes beyond the setup zone untouched, the kicking team
would be penalized and the return team would start the
drive at the at the A twenty yard line. The
NFL is opting for less gimmicky approach, sure you are.

(37:38):
When the NFL's on kick rules may keep playing the game.
They do eliminate the possibility of a surprise onside kick.
That strategic loss may irk special teams coordinators, but they
surely will find a way to gain potential advantages because
of the new kickoff rules. So the bottom lines, you
got to let them know, and there's only certain times
you can do it correct. Think that's the way I
look at it, which to me is absurd that I

(38:02):
can't pull the element of surprise on you. I actually think,
I actually think it's absurd that you can't have guys.
You remember how they need guy ontie kick it, one guy,
go blow it up so you can land on the ball.
That's football, man, that's football. Well, Sean, what if a
guy gets hurt in the ribcage? Yeah, and what do

(38:22):
you want me to tell you about? I mean, I
don't know why. So why don't we just have the kicker,
one defender with the kicker, one guy to go cover,
and two guys to recover it. One guy can buck.
Just just make it a one on one rule. Then
put five guys out there. A level would be hockey
out the All Star Game. Just eliminate guys were playing

(38:43):
three on three. I mean, bodies are there. It's a
physical game. It can be a violent game. You just
got to prevent the individuals like dogs or owners. What's
the reason dogs are violent? The owners? Right, Normally, it's
the same thing here. Take out, take out cheap hits,
and just put good physical hits allowed to happen. We've
gotten to the point we penalized physical, good clean hits

(39:07):
during regular play, during kickoffs, the rest of it. Imagine
if these rules were all implemented when Devin Hester was
a return game, that's exactly right, and the great guys
who cover it, guys like Steve Tasker, and guys return
like Brian Mitchell, all these great players over the course
of time would have minimal impact. Devin Hetscher would not

(39:29):
be in the Hall of Fame if it wasn't for
special teams. And he may be the greatest we've ever seen.
Well he turned out okay for him. Just because a
year goes by doesn't mean we always have to change rules.
I'm okay going back to moving it back, forced the
kicker to kick it down there, and let's go and
go protect him. You know, take the wedge out safe,

(39:50):
and you're not blocking below the waist, all those things.
But man, I miss the days when a return actually
they caught it at the five yard line and guys
were hustling down to cover it and you had a
little space and got the ball out at your mad midfield.
I miss those days. And then isn't it inevitable that
there's always a penalty called on a kickoff? I feel

(40:10):
like every single time where's the flag, that they're going
to find a flag. It's it's maddening, and I know
somewhat more safety. I think most players prefer the opportunity
to impact the game the right way without having gimmicky
rules all over it. And we are loaded with gimmick
rules in pro sports now, all over the place, littered
with it. Even though it's a physical game, we are
littered with gimmicks. People are going to get banged up.

(40:32):
It's unfortunate, but that's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
It's crazy, man, I watching that game last night. At first,
I didn't know how I was going to feel about it,
And then the more that the game went on and
there was more and more of these kickoffs, I was like, man,
what the hell.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Are we doing? Here's what you do? You're right, Brian,
and real quick, here's what we shouldn't have to do.
You shouldn't have to pass a doc. You get a
doctorate degree to understand kickoffs and don sai. You shouldn't
have to sit there and think what do we do again? Here?
It used to be hustle your ass down and make
a tackle and return game. It's right, return, Okay, here

(41:09):
we go. You can fair catch it goes out of
the end zone. Hell, I liked the rule at I
hope you know. I like the rule of the balls
in the end zone. And the guy didn't go get
it and down it. Now that you just pointed the ride,
that's good. If it's rolling around the end zone. We
lost the national championship opportunity at USC and get you
by a ball rolling into the end zone and them

(41:32):
recovering it on a kickoff, so the rules of all
it bounced in the end zone. Hell, get on it
and put it down. Well what about an injury? Well
what about it? Hopefully it won't happen. I just missed
the excitement of specialized kicking. I do I miss it?

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Me and you both.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Man, I don't know how to feel about this gimmicky
just landing zone and twelve players at one ply, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Man, landing zone that's for airports, dog or a gymnast Yeah,
stick the landing.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, let's let's get to the seven o'clock hour. Are
the Texans a super team? Well, there's one player in
the NFL that says yes.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Who is it?

Speaker 5 (42:09):
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Speaker 4 (43:00):
After the game last night, he was asked why he
joined the Texans. This is cam Akers with an interesting
take on why he joined the Texans.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
How did you want to be a Texan?

Speaker 6 (43:16):
I would say closer to home, closer to where I'm from,
and the opportunity here is like no other.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
The team here is like no other.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
I would say it's a super team.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
You know, whenever I can work my way into that
that role but it's a super team here. You know,
every everything's already in place.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
We got the coaches, we got the players, we got
the quarterback, receivers, defense.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
What don't you have here?

Speaker 5 (43:36):
You know, running back, we got Joe, So you know,
everything's here.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
They want to be I just want to play my part.
And they were thought of that way two years ago.
I think a lot of people would say that how
long did it take? It take a couple of cuts.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
And that was Cam Akers.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
This that audio video was Aaron Wilson NFL inside that
we have on every single Friday during the football season.
He was out in Canton, Ohio in the locker room
after the game last night. So kay Akers saying that
the Texans are a super team.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Sean, don't you agree with him when it comes to
the potential of a super team. I'm not putting them
in the category yet. I think a lot of the
hype and naturally so when you're talented and you know,
they've got the thirty third team, which is a bunch
of co former coaches and are and players. They do
the shows and they write articles. They got a lot

(44:27):
of good football people in it. They got Sloka is
the seventh ranked defense, the seventh ranked coordinator between offensive
defense in football. Him the Ben Johnson, Steve Spagnola. He's
already been in that category. They've got him as a
top ten coordinator. He's been coordinator a year. So that
comes with Stroud his hand and what he did with c. J.

(44:49):
Stroud and the offense and now with more bandwidth. So
super team potential, yes, to call them a super team
is that's you know, that's a player in the and
you know his new guys and he's fitting in and
cam makers and I get it. There is the ability
to be to be a super team. You probably got

(45:10):
to have a Super Bowl and have been knocking on
that door on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
They have.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
If you're telling me, if somebody says, well, give me
two or three teams that are on the rise to
be that team, yes, Texans are involved. It's way too
premature by anybody to crown them a super team or
but I give a camp saying, but to literally put
that label on them. They got They got a lot
of work to do before we can do that. They

(45:35):
got the potential of having a loaded roster that can
win a lot of games, and I expect them to
go and be in contention to win the division again,
but it's not easy to do it regularly and ensure
as hell super team. And you know a lot of
times super teams don't end up winning championships. We see
it in all sports. So I like the growth and
I like the roster they've built and continue to build.

(45:58):
But they're not there yet. But they're in the next
tier of guys that could be that team that can
be in contention every year because they got a hell
of a coach, they're well taught, and they've got a
quarterback and it starts there. And if they can get
more physical on defense and at the offensive line running
the football next year at this time, that that may
be even a truer statement super team yet no potential

(46:19):
to be one. Yes, too premature after one year.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Yeah, I think so. I think they have the pieces
in place to be a really, really, really good team.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But do you know the Oriols the super team are Yeah,
in't interrupt.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
They got potential.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
It's all about the you know, this is where we
always talk about production and potential.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
They have the potential. The Orioles do, and so do
the Texans aren't.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, that's my point, isn't you look at young roster. Yeah,
mixed in with some veterans. They bring a guy like
Corbyn Burns over, you go get Joe mixed. I mean
similarities of it they've started the last two or three years.
The respect is started to grow this last year at group.
They are now the Orioles are talked about as a
World Series team. We're already talking to the Texans are
getting closer. So there's some similarities, but we can't we

(47:03):
can't call the ball Memorials a super team. Boy, but
we could look and say, if we have this conversation
three years from now, we may be talking about it
like that. So both so in the right direction, and
the Astros have been part of that too. So to
build it, yes, I would. They're in the team photo
of teams that are on that major ascent and rise,
and they have two guys at the top when it

(47:24):
comes to on the field, meaning the quarterback and the
head coach, to give you reason to believe they're going
to be that type of team regularly. But we well
wouldn't label that any team that did it one year.
They they'll be a tougher task to defend it now
because everybody. You don't get to fool anybody, but their
roster got better as well.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Seven seven ninety is the number to join. Let's get
out to the phone lines and talk to Brandon. Hello Brandon, Good.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Morning, Brian, Gid Martin, John.

Speaker 11 (47:52):
How you guys?

Speaker 1 (47:54):
We're good? Good morning?

Speaker 7 (47:57):
Actually that well.

Speaker 6 (47:59):
I'm say Texans did very good.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
But they can they fall to the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
They sure did.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Game got canceled because of rain in the third quarter.
There were some good good things though.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (48:16):
Do you have time to talk to astros real quick?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:20):
I got about ten fifteen seconds for you, Brandon. What
you got on these astros?

Speaker 8 (48:24):
A coach will be doing good for his new team,
So I like.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
To hear he pitches tonight. You excited?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I am.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I'm gonna watch it all right, Brandon.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
We appreciate the call. Enjoy your weekend, buddy, I will
have a good one. You two.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Thanks.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
You could see maybe you pomped John.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
No songs, no music?

Speaker 5 (48:47):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
No themes? No theme songs?

Speaker 7 (48:50):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
No theme songs today? Wow? No theme songs?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Unbelievable. You're down on the theme songs?

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah? Yeah, the theme songs suck.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Ass.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Okay, whoa, give me some cuts, give me some walls.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
You know, we do give you the cuts.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, yeah, the cuts, but not that he can't give
me the theme cuts they blow Okay, Kakuchie. I hope
Cokuchie goes about six and two thirds of four hit ball.
How's that grab your ass tonight? Yea, I'm excited for
I actually am excited. I don't get you know, I
don't like woo giddy over something. I'm actually excited to

(49:28):
see his start. I am. I'm anxious to see how
he comes in and you know, the initial return and
it's not good or bad. It's not not judging the
trade on one start, But I actually am I don't
know if excited is the word, but I'm pretty anxious
to see anxious meaning I wanted to come quickly because
I want to see him if he really is going

(49:50):
to be that guy that Dana Brown believes he is,
and I hope he is. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm
anticipating this game tonight, in this start, and I'm looking
forward to it for sure.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Strikes out nine, strikes.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Out nine and seven and a third. Is that what
you're going with? Yeah? Seven to third, strikes out, nine,
gives up, no runs, walks none. Okay, it's none ya
business right none ya? Yeah, yeah, that's how he did it.
He just did it. I hope that's reality tonight. I
really do so. I am actually anticipating this start today,

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no question you're.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Looking forward to it. But I'm just I'm I'm more
worried about why you're so down.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
On your song? Yeah, because they just below.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
Which one's the worst?

Speaker 4 (50:31):
The oilers that we heard yesterday, go go Astros or
it's football time in Houston?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I think go go Astros is awful. I thought that
the oiler song we heard was just a putrid and
I like Clay Walker, but that song is it's we
gotta stick it out of We gotta put it on
a shelf. No, No, I got a shelff. You got
to shelve it for a while. We need a whole

(50:59):
new You need a You need a makeover. Can we
bring in what are the what are my people in Waco?
The fixed homes? The games? Can we get Can we
get them? Can they do music too? Can we get
We need a music makeover? When it came we got
all these great cut masters in our city. We need

(51:20):
a music theme song makeover. We got a world championship
caliber baseball team of football teams on the rise. Like anything,
you change uniforms, you sometimes just got to change theme
songs and who sings them, and you just do. They
don't need to be cheesy. Let's upgrade this a little bit, okay,
to match the upgrade we're getting from our Texans. So

(51:42):
I listen. I don't know. I don't know. I don't
even do when I was in Minnesota or playing, I
don't even remember any theme songs we do.

Speaker 9 (51:51):
We do.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
We have thieves that I don't even remember a song
being a theme song for any team I played on.
I mean I know that they chiel their chance like college.
You know our college alma mater song, all that stuff,
but I don't even remember to charge it. In Minnesota,
we have a theme song he wants skull vikings and stuff,
but I would never been able to sing along with one.

(52:12):
I don't even remember a theme song. Hell, it was
tough enough to remember your alma mater song while you're
singing yeah. So I'm like, what, No, I don't even
remember it. I don't no, No, we might have the Okay,
we might have the worst theme songs of any of
any franchises theme songs. Yeah, that was a Mike Tyson talk.

(52:38):
We might have the worst theme songs of any because
I don't hear the others. Yeah, I'm assuming ours are
at the top of the list of bad. With such
good teams, such good teams.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Yeah, yeah, just I don't understand why you're so down
on them, man.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
But I don't understand why you why, why they why
you get pumped? I really don't.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
So I guess I guess when you when you really
really break it down to a ti Yeah, Clay Walkers,
it's football time in Houston just gets me jacked up
because you know what the guitar.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Rift, Yeah that's three, Yeah, you know, best of the three,
but you know.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
And then go go astros Like it starts a little bit, okay,
go you know that whole thing, but then it goes
into like the weird instrumental and then the the Oilers
song is just by far one of the worst I've
ever heard. Yeah, so it really sounds like you're about
to march into war listening to that damn uh snare
drum or whatever it is. Yeah, triple weren't you a band,

(53:37):
what kind of what kind of drum was at Snary?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I thought, got to hit the high hat while you're
sitting there too. We'll hit that high hat symbol. Yeah right, yeah,
I did. Clay Walker wants the best, but we can
do better. Our teams are on the rise, and Clay
Walker's obviously the hell of a country singer, country western singer.
But it's time for uh, it's time for changes. You'd

(54:01):
like uniform changes. You need to cut changes, and we
need to get we need to make a change. I
mean that's so they're not a representative of how good
the franchises are. The songs don't match.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
All right, Well, John's just down on on the Texans
uh theme songs.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
It's fine, man, I'd rather have you sing a new one.
I can do that.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
I'll just sing It's football time in Houston on my own.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Okay, good, I'm here for it. I'm here for it,
here for.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
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Speaker 2 (56:19):
Here the Sean Salisbury Show continues on Sports Talk seven
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(56:39):
on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Time for the stakeout here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Just look at Major League Baseball. Obviously we talked about
it right at six o'clock in my headlines. Mike Trout
is out for the rest of the season after suffering
another meniscus tear. Oh Man sean listen to this. Mike

(57:08):
Trout played just twenty nine games this season. He has
now missed three and eighty two games the past four seasons.
He has played a total of one game after the
All Star break in three of the last four seasons.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
And that's more than two full seasons missed. Yes, what
I told you you're not gonna is his greatness. I
mean you look at his numbers and don't look at
the games. You'll say, the guy's a great been a
great player, MVP always in the talking. You're gonna look
at the end of his career and say, he missed
how many games? What could have been? Yeah, it's it's

(57:49):
a it's a bummer for a great player, and they
you know, get hit by a pitch meniscus, then another
one and then this keeps him out, and then this
will be then a hammy, and then it just it's
I mean, we've seen his greatness, we just don't get
to see it enough. And that's the truth. I appreciate
great players like that, but he's just He's not durable,

(58:11):
and I'm not blaming. I just some guys are built different.
Or he's unlucky. I mean, I don't know which one
it is, or both, but unlucky when it comes to injuries,
and the durability has been a major factor. Yet when
you watch him play, you say, the guy deserves more money.
It's crazy. You just don't get enough of him. If
you're the anngeent, you just don't get enough of him.
I'd love to see what he could do for like

(58:32):
five straight full seasons, see what kind of numbers he
put up. I really do.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Let's go back to his injury history.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Twenty seventeen, thumb, twenty eighteen, wrist twenty twenty one, calf
twenty twenty two, ribs twenty twenty three, wrist in the
same season of twenty twenty three, his wrist again, and
in this year his knee in the meniscus.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
I mean, what is what is going on with him?
Is it is that unlucky?

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Is it? I mean, my god, man, He's obviously had
some unfortunate luck. He obviously the injuris seemed to linger
and he's not been the last five years. I mean,
whether whether it's unlucky or true or fact, he's not durable,
and that's not that's I don't mean that derogatory. He's

(59:24):
just not guy. We can make all the well unlucky. Well,
isn't any guy who gets hurt a little bit unlucky?
All I pulled a hamstring, I stepped off. I heard
my lower back stepping off a curb because I didn't
realize the curb was that. You know, even if it's
an anser like I didn't see that you lower back, like,
oh my gosh, all things that go are getting hit
by a pitch. Yeah, some of that's unlucky and some

(59:46):
of it's just there's been excuse me, durability issues. Now
do the numbers and MVPs and when he's been a
top ten guy, how he plays one hundred and twenty
five games and will be finish in the top three
in the MVP. I mean, that's how good the guys
are the guys. Now do his numbers and then parlay

(01:00:06):
the average out for Okay, if he missed a total
of three full seasons of his career, which would be
what one hundred and six three hundred, which was a
four and two, like five hundred games if he's missed
that many games and parlay average out the numbers of
what he normally averages and see just where he'd be.
I mean, it's it's he's he's a Freakis skill set.

(01:00:27):
But unfortunately he's just as unlucky, just as good with
the MVPs as he is unlucky and lack of durability,
especially the last five or six years.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
So it's kind of interesting when you look at his
career outside of twenty eleven, which is his rookie year.
Every season between twenty twelve and twenty nineteen he appeared
and played in over one hundred and thirty games, right,
and then.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Still I don't know, I mean out of one hundred
and sixty yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Yeah, and then you get to twenty twenty of the
COVID season, he played in fifty three games.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Great, that was COVID season, and then it was just
it's just downhill after that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
That's what I'm saying that most of it has been
like the last five years, aside from a little bit
here and there. But now how into what MVP, MVP,
MVP top three, top two, I mean, it's when he plays,
he's going to put up numbers on a team that
he's never played. He's played in one playoff series his

(01:01:26):
entire life when it comes to pro baseball. Three games,
three games, and he and O Tawni never played a
playoff game together. I don't think no, now you think
about that. I think he's played in one playoff series
since he's been in the league. So we have never
seen his postseason. You know, we waited for Harper. Harper

(01:01:47):
gave us and he gave us some flare in the postseason,
and Philly was off the charts. We wait for these
stars to see what they do. When the brightest of
the brightest we've seen trout what three games? I think
it's one series career, Yeah, will so. And then now
the question is will he ever be fully fully healthy
for us to see his greatness again? What would he

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be like three or four years in a row, playing
in one hundred and fifty games a year without any protection.
The guy will say, it doesn't matter, what would it
be like? The guy just he knows how to hit,
and what would what would his numbers be like? When
when we've seen it, when he plays a lot of games,
he'll win, He'll win an MVP. I mean, he's always
been that guy, So I just think it sucks for him,

(01:02:30):
and I'm quite sure it sucks for you know, Angel
fans that want to see him on the field, but
luck or durability, but lack of lack of luck or
against him and durability issues have been a problem the
last five years, they really have. And we don't get
to see enough of Mike Trout because of.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
It, No, we sure don't. That's going to do it
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Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Very very welcome into Sports Talk seven ninety mat. How
you doing, gentlemen?

Speaker 12 (01:04:42):
Been a lock?

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
So did the game last night? Any rule changes the
up coming in did you say or any rule changes
we talked about? You got the kickoff rule? Well, I okay,
I can't hear what he said triply what I would
I wouldn't. I wouldn't out that any any rule change
for the new season. Yeah, there's a on the kickoff

(01:05:06):
and it's a litany and we were talking about them
earlier where only so many guys can run down and
cover the kicker can't leave until the ball hits past
the fifty in the air, hits the ground. On side kicks,
you gotta warn to let the referees know you're making
an on side kick, and there's certain times when you
can and can't do it. That was a touch. Yeah,

(01:05:28):
the rule change and the majority of the rule changers
are going to be on kickoffs created more excitement, but
they're also still protecting the player, So how much impact
it'll have in a shortened game? Last night he didn't
have much impact. But if you google kicker the kicker rules,
you go through a litany of all the kickoff rules,
special teams rules that are there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Yes, and the game last night was called because of
bad weather.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Eight they did not get the bullcasts and because this
happened during the regular season. If it gets too bad
as the game be called, would be rescheduled or what.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
And in football we usually play through it. But when lightning,
that type of stuff, when it's a danger, when it's
a thread, if it rains and it's windy and it's
just normal rain a hard I mean, no matter how
hard it rains, unless there's been flooding a week before
a game and he can't get to the stadium. Usually
then or snow, they'll move it to another facility in
another state. But as far as you usually play them

(01:06:23):
in football, but if there's lightning, they will delay the
game and lightning will call it off. And so will
it happen during the rain, Oh, they'll be I'm sure
there'll be a We have them every year. There'll be
some kind of weather delay in football, but rain and
normal rain and wind won't usually stop a game. But
when it becomes dangerous and lightning hits, yeah, they they

(01:06:44):
stop it. At every level, they'll build delay a game.
And what Aaron Rodgers play more than one game this
even Uh yeah, I think you're gonna see Aaron Rodgers
get a full season. And that's good for the that's
good for the Jets. One game, one game, and he
might want to think about a new career.

Speaker 8 (01:06:59):
But I think he's going to be all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Right, appreciate it. Thank you, you bet, thanks Perry. Yeah,
good stuff, good stuff. But yeah, rule changes on kickoffs
and kickoff there's always rule changes. But Rogers, I think
Rogers is going to have a good season. And yeah,
weather lightning, sometimes they'll be lightning at some point during
the year where the game's delayed on a Sunday or

(01:07:22):
a Sunday night or Monday, Yes, that will happen. Usually does.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Yeah, and especially with it being a Hall of Fame game,
you're not going to continue.

Speaker 9 (01:07:29):
That on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Oh yeah, well you cancel that. You don't have to
replay it. But in the NFL, rain and wind don't
usually stop it. If there was a natural disaster or
snow where people can't get to it. In the playoffs,
you see, they may move the venue, which they have before.
If it's lightning and pan fans are in danger. Whether
it's a NASCAR race or an NFL's game or a
college game, they will delay it. We've seen that as well.

(01:07:52):
But rain and wind itself last time, and rain and win.
There's no lightning, rain and wind. They're going to play
the game normally, unless it's you know, seventy miles an
hour winter, it's hurricane like stuff. They may not, but
they're gonna play it if they can get it in.
Lightning usually is the biggest factor in delaying games or
postponing them.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Did you have any takeaways from the Hall of Fame game,
even though it was a small sample size.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Just to me that the cam Akers, it was good
to see him back with a little burst. And the
truth is when the game was finally you know, on
in the middle or in the third quarter, I probably
wouldn't have watched much more of it anyway. Yeah, honestly,
I mean I saw, like you asked me, what would
I watch this? I'm just looking for certain things, and
cam Akers was one of our focuses to see how

(01:08:39):
you know what it would be like for him, Davis
Mills getting a few more reps. You're just trying to
know what was it Hutchinson. I think Hutchins had four
or five catches last night, didn't he so looking for
just looking for somebody to elevate, and you know how
serious they take it. But I saw what I needed
to see from Mills last night, and I definitely saw
a small sample size a little bit of so we

(01:09:00):
haven't seen him from cam Akers, which would be great
for the depth, and I didn't expect to see much
more than that anyway, delay I wouldn't have watched even
if they wouldn't postponed it. I wouldn't have stayed in
for all four. So I saw what I needed to
see last night.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Some takeaways I guess is Hudginson looks like he's improved
a little bit. We know that he's got the speed.
He ran some really good routes. John Metchi I still think.

Speaker 7 (01:09:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
I would have liked to see him featured a little
bit more last night. I know he had a couple
of targets, but you didn't really see much from him.
I really hope that he contributes to this year, just
I mean with his journey and everything. And he said
yesterday before the game. I don't have the audio here
in front of me, but I did see an official
quote from one of the beat writers for the Texans
that he said he's felt this is the fastest he's

(01:09:48):
ever been in his career, even faster than what he
was at Alabama. So hopefully that good thing that you know,
translate into some more opportunities for him this season.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, I would like to see him more game where
he becomes in a preseason game, Let's see what he
does with the football. Let's get him involved heavily and
take the confidence to another level. And let's see what
he's like in space. Yeah, make a concentrated effort. That's
when you can do this in preseason games. Okay, let's
let's have this series. Let's let's see if we can
get John involved and move him around. I would like

(01:10:19):
to see it because I would like to see that
speed at work, and I would like to see where
he is and is in his mind now that he's
appears to be fully healthy in every you know, not
only just from the knee, but from what he is
battling and now another season with Bobby Slow, I'm anxious
to see what was a first round talent before he

(01:10:40):
blew out his knee in college. So it's a good Listen,
imagine what a bonus it'll be if Mechi plays like
a first round or imagine what that'll look like. Meaning
I know he wasn't draft in the first round, but
he was a first round skill set until he hurt
his knee and then you know, and that's why he
dropped in the draft. But they still held him in
high guard regard enough to draft to draft him high

(01:11:03):
knowing he wasn't going to be ready to go right
off the bat. Yeah, and here then what through what
he's been through after the knee injury. Yeah, if you
can get that type of play that you got somewhere
near at Alabama add to what we already have, that
is a tremendous bonus for the Houston Texans.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
He was only targeted twice last night, one catch for
four yards. Yep, I'd like to see more. Xavier Hutchinson
was targeted six times. He had five receptions for fifty
six yards. Ben's sco Rennick three receptions, twenty eight yards.
He was targeted four times. So I want to see
more John match you to see what he's got.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Yeah, I think they're Sason.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I think they do too. I would like that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Yeah, let's continue to talk about the East Houston Texans.
Let's talk about the defense. Is it top five in
the league?

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
That's next.

Speaker 10 (01:11:50):
We want to win.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Sean Salzbury continues on seven ninety Tawny Katain was white
Steak and Chuck Chuck Bailey.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Where do you come up with that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Exactly? You didn't take her home to mom?

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
No? No, good, gracious and you know what, put some
respect on the on the on the deceased. Okay, yeah,
put some respect?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Do you what they go to Mada?

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah? Yeah, give me? Do you don't know the cut?
Do your name? Who sung that song?

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Rick James?

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Nice? Really good call by you, really really good. It's
not your style to make that right, to get that right.
I thought you'd say somebody like, uh that Cole king
As you call her your style?

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Yeah, so you know, did you what about Blinda Carlisle?
You take her home?

Speaker 7 (01:12:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Nope, nope, wouldn't mind. Will you get to wait? You
got instant s Whiting Candles. It's such a freaky scene.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
What's the team today?

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Apparently seventies jam jam.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
Yeah, Hey, you want your Aaron Rodgers update?

Speaker 11 (01:13:13):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Mike Greenberg is pacing up and down on the set
of Get Up this morning talking about if the Jets
are gonna stay healthy enough to compete for a Super
Bowl this season.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Well, I'll tell you, I think Aaron Rodgers is going
to be the MVP in the league this year. Sure,
I do, man, No, I think he. I think he's
gonna have a good year, though, I do. Jets Jets defense, Yes,
Jets defense can play. They've got weapons. I know that
New York fans we say this, if he is one

(01:13:50):
hundred percent healthy, that they got a chance because the
guy can play. But they got then they've got some
players and Garrett Wilson they do. So that's a team
that you in the AFC you're going to have to
take a little bit of notice because they will knock
you in the mouth defensively, regardless of your feelings of personalities,

(01:14:11):
just straight football. They can play if they don't go
deep in there amid the sub five eight and nine,
nine and eight type team just over five hundred and
missed the playoffs. You may see a new coaching staff
next year. You may, I can definitely see that. Excuse
me there, they're they're talent. They're talented enough. I mean

(01:14:32):
New England's you know, got their moments. Buffalo. I think
somethink has taken a step back. I'm not. I wouldn't
be surprised if the majority of people thought the Miami
Dolphins could go. You know, we know they're we know
one thing about the Dolphins. They're going to score a
lot of points and their team speeds through the roof.
And then you got the Jets. So of the four,

(01:14:53):
you look at the rosters the Jets, especially on the
defensive side, they're they're as good as there is in
this division. And getting Rogers healthy, there's the all the
what if we how's he coming back from Achilles and
what will happen? But yeah, the Jets should be the
Jets should be, and most people there and in the
team picture of if you said you thought the Jets
were the best team in the division, I don't think

(01:15:14):
you'd get There's some that you wouldn't get a ton
of argument, at least out of me. Now it's got
to come together. But you know Miami's got theirs. Are
they physical enough? Buffalo and they overcome and get You know,
how many receivers do they have for Josh Allen? Now
you're gonna ask him to do more. And New England's
just in the growing phases of a young quarterback and

(01:15:35):
you know they're trying to get him going. And you know,
if you drafted Mac Jones, it didn't work. No, Bill
Belichick for the first time. I mean, it's that they're
in that changing season. They're they're the rebuild. So there
they'll beat you a couple of times, but the Jets
are formidable man and Rogers is that Rogers to from
from Wilson to Rodgers is a major upgrade for a franchise,

(01:15:58):
as we well know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Be excited to see if he can stay healthy this season.
Seven one, three, two, two, five, seven ninety Hello.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Gil, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
So Sean, of course he sean, uh, Brian, he wouldn't
take anything girls home because they were there on dope
or Donko.

Speaker 12 (01:16:16):
He was listening led Zeppelin this vehicle and have the
ever listened to led Zeppelin?

Speaker 13 (01:16:20):
They're normally on dope or donkhood because they were rough, rough, rough, ugly,
ugliest seeing.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
What hold on, Gil, hold on? Hold on?

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Yesterday you called us and you talked. You talked about
Sean and the good looking women in California.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Now you're saying ugly he was chasing the good looking women.

Speaker 7 (01:16:37):
That don't mean he caught him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
He was man Sean.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Hold On, don't even respond.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I'm gonna put it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I'm not gonna I'm not did you did you not
see Sean's mullet back in the day like my man
was pulling left.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
And right he was, Yes, yeah, but you never do
a simple Google search. Son never took the dogs home
to Lama Gill.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yeah, I left you. I left the pit bulls. I
mean Christmas, you wife, they're on dope. Your wife told you.
Your wife told me when she texted me about midnight
last night, that you're ugly enough to make a skunks.
But I don't have a wife no more. I'm just

(01:17:22):
kid your brother. Hey, First off, that you're right, I
mean I was. I was too busy. I was too
busy studying in class, all right, scach surfing right?

Speaker 9 (01:17:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
What what did you say back when their hair was
feathered on the side and parted down the middle. They
loved themselves some blood Zeppel seventies. Sometimes you look back
back in the seventies rockers, you couldn't tell if the
rocker was the chick or the rocker was You're right,
you're right with the way their hair, with their hair.

(01:17:58):
So Brian Sean had it. Oh yeah, one of the
best man maybe top ten of all time maybe maybe Okay,
flowing gill flowing among all right, anyway, so thank god
you didn't take none of them dopers home to your mama.

(01:18:18):
Given very disappointed. That's such a such an old phrase.
That's such an old phrase. Hey man, you're listening to
led Zeppelin. Dude, are you a doper?

Speaker 14 (01:18:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Yeah, yeah, he dope basically.

Speaker 7 (01:18:33):
In my day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yeah, you know what, I was afraid. I didn't. I never,
I didn't ever try it when I was in high
none of that stuff. And I I tri marijuana and
made me go to sleep and I couldn't perform. So
they can't do it. Got back what I spell. I
didn't even touch marijuana in high school.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
So damn Gil hitting him a nice little uh, nice
little joint and going limp.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
That's not tough man, could couldn't, shouldn't perform because what Gil?
He shot? You could pull? You're right, I could. I
had no game, man, all that was I was acad.
That was just studying.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
Yeah, just just just you know, the just very studious.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Yeah, get my stuff right, all right? Yeah? Who cares
about a hair parted down the middle, feathered on the side,
seventies doper chick, as he called doper. What do you
think you think Gill pulls? Think he's hot? What do
you think gills? You think Gill talk? You think he's hot?

(01:19:39):
What's your what's your guess? And Gil might be hot.
He's he's out there pulling man, go ahead hands, he's
always driving around.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
So I'm wondering if fels like like one of those
sneaky good looking dudes that are like an uber driver
or something, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Snaked good looking uber driver. What you're calling Gil? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, could.

Speaker 13 (01:19:58):
Dud?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Did he say it was sixty three? Yes? Yeah, he
might look like uh, maybe he looks like I'm trying
to figure who he might look like. You think he
looks like Antonio Spato Junior.

Speaker 5 (01:20:11):
Sapato.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Yeah, yeah, maybe he's Antonio Sipato Junior. You never know, No, no, no, no,
maybe he's Andy Garcia.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Are you talking about Antonio Sabato Junior. He's an he's
an Italian American model.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Yeah, did say he was underwear model.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Yeah, and you know, I apologize to my to my
you know what, Google It company, And now I got
to look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Dude too, Sabato Junior back at his day. Thanks for that. Yeah,
there you go. How the fact that iyaked his dave
out of a out of my Antonio Sapato Junior.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
Yeah, And I don't think Gill's look.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Maybe maybe he's got an Andy Garcia look to him.
He might, Yeah, Gill, he might have that look.

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
I'm not sure. Yeah, anyway, yeah, maybe maybe we can.
You want to get him in the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Sure, when the cameras rolling, let's go, let's make let's
get Gill institute. Gil's got fun personality. Man, I like him. Yeah,
he's right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
I just like how he thinks you're.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Pulling, Yeah, pulling Rocker dopers.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
Man dopers, dude, that's so crazy. Oh man, all right,
let's get into the eight o'clock hour. Let's hear from
Lewis Riddick. He had some high praise for the Texans
after the Hall of Fame game, that's next.

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Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Can you way to talk about these Houston Texans? Lewis
Riddick spoke about their defense. Could the Texans have a
top five defense? This and This's what Lewis Riddick had
to say.

Speaker 15 (01:24:03):
I do think that overall as an organization, the Texans
are one of those teams who look and you know me,
I'd like to kind of live on the edge in
terms of trying to project who's on the come who's
the team that right now you're saying, well, I got
to see it in order to believe it, but who
do you believe it that they have.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
The right stuff before you actually see it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
I think the Texans are that and I'll.

Speaker 16 (01:24:25):
Tell you why.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Look, I think they're ruster when you look at.

Speaker 15 (01:24:28):
It one through fifty three, their defense is going to
be a top two, top three defense in the NFL.
Okay Denico Autry being suspended for the first six games.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
That hurts him, no question, because he's one of the most.

Speaker 15 (01:24:39):
Versatile inside outside pass rushers in the NFL. Bart you
know that, you know that better than anybody. How important
guys like that are. But this team can rush the passer.
They were number two, I believe in the NFL and
pass rush win rate as a team last year. They've
got horses, man, and they're gonna be even better this year.
Their second and third level is as good as anyone's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
On defense. CJ is going to take the net.

Speaker 15 (01:25:02):
CJ is going to continue to surprise with just how
poised and well beyond his years this young man is.
The offensive line is solid. It's not great, it's solid.
They need to be better running the football, especially in
the red area. And they've already said down there that
Stefan Diggs has looked spectacular. They can't cover him, and
you know that he's not the only guy with Nico.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
And Tank who they also got on the perimeter.

Speaker 5 (01:25:25):
Here's all right, that's uh.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
That's Lewis Riddick talking about their defense and obviously hitting
on the offensive line and Demiko. He also said in
this clip, it's about a three and a half minute clip.
He said, quote, Dimiko will go down as one of
the best head coaches in history of the NFL in
terms of leadership.

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
End quote. Also in that clip, Shawn.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
He mentioned not just top five, top two or top
three defense in the entire league.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Well, if if what Lewis Riddick says comes to fruition
about red zone run efficiency, you know, that's been a
big part of mine, is running the ball even when
they know you're going to run it, and be able
to manhandle the line of scrimmas. That to me, if
there's one thing I got to see how they upgraded

(01:26:13):
the running back position with a grown ass man and
Joe Mixon staying healthy up front and being able to
commit to that on third and three, not being afraid
to run it on third and three in the red zone.
It doesn't require pass all the time. When you are
able to do that or the threat of it, it's
just going to it's going to make the quarterback everybody
far better. So offensively, I'm not worried about the pass game.

(01:26:36):
I'm not worried about their ability to stretch the field
and to move the football, and the run games going
to improve, as is the run. The pass game out
of the backfield. This should be formal, formidable if their
upfront is healthy offensive line and they have a little
bit of you know, little urine and vinegar in their
bloodstream where they're a little pissed off this year and

(01:26:58):
want to want to run, block, dominate that part of
the line of scrimmage. This offense has the bandwidth to
be as good as there is in the league. There
may be better with You may not have a Jefferson yet,
but Diggs is pretty good. You may not have you know,
working towards what the three in Cincinnati were with their

(01:27:19):
wide receivers. You've got the ability to do that here now.
The quarterback, spectacular offensive line, physicality in the red zone,
and their ability to run the football no matter when
they run it that they're effective and on defense right,
I don't disagree with him at all. But if if
they do have the ability on the back end, they've
got linebackers their edge and inside, and Autrey is very

(01:27:41):
good inside and outside, that's a bummer for them. But
add to Neil Hunter, people are going to find out
really quick. Just if you don't know him enough about him,
you should. He's a monster so health and they'll be
better in the secondary. He knows how to game plan
and scheme a team. I fully expect them to be
a top five to six type defense and maybe better

(01:28:02):
than that. Yeah, if it all comes the way he's
talking about it, if it comes to light the way
that they are predicted and the way Lewis Ridick's talking
about him, they'll be if it comes like that, with
the competition in other divisions, they'll be in position to
be talking about home field advantage, about the playoffs. If
that's the case Kansas City, he'll be a little rougher

(01:28:24):
with the Chargers. The AFC norse brutal. The AFC East
is bunched together, young quarterbacks in the AFC South, wind
out the Texans the end, and then look at the
North a huge Cincinnati's good burrow. You know that with
the coordinators now Kenny Dorsey in Cleveland is the offensive coordinator,

(01:28:45):
and with Jim Schwartz, who's one of the top coordinators
in the league on defense, and a full healthy season,
they're gonna be better. They'll be better getting what Nick
Chubb back. And then we know how good Baltimore is.
And you're telling me Pittsburgh is on paper the worst
team the division and they are five hundred team or
better better. I mean, Mike Tomlin doesn't doesn't lose. I

(01:29:07):
mean when it comes to his teams are always above
five hundred, so the guy knows how to win, so
you can beat each other up. Why not a team
from the South being in that position. A lot of
people thought the Jacksonville Jaguars were going to be in
position to be home field advanced throughout the playoffs last year.
Why not the Texas? Now I agree. Now you thought
you got to be a little lucky too with injuries,
and would Lois Ridick saying you got to be a

(01:29:28):
little lucky. But this roster, to me, is far deeper
than it was last year, and they won ten games,
far deeper, and the run game should be far more
potent and powerful and intimidating. Offensive line's got to stay healthy.
One of the biggest keys this team will have this year,
if not the biggest.

Speaker 5 (01:29:49):
Yeah, you mentioned the Chargers. They got some issues.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
Justin Herbert yesterday was diagnosed with an injury to the
planner fascia in his right foot.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
He's going to be in a walking boot for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
I'm telling you that is one that can linger. For
to think of wide receivers and hamstrings, how long they
can possibly linger. I also want you to think when
it comes to that planet fasciatas Bran, I'm telling you
that thinking. However, we talked about it yesterday and joked
a little bit about we were talking about somebody else's
planet Fasciatus. That planet fasciadis. Injury can last and the walking,

(01:30:23):
but you've got to keep him from putting pressure on it.
But isn't this the chargersm all the talent and then
somebody four guys get hurt in the preseason, right I
can tell you this, They're not going anywhere they need.
There'll be no threat without Herbert in the lineup to
unseat the Chiefs. They need him healthy. I wouldn't play
him at all in the preseason.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
So it looks like the expectation is he will be
ready for the first week of the season, but as
of right now, he's gonna be in a walking boot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
So often, don't blame him. I wouldn't play him either,
but I would not.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
All right, I'm pretty interested to get your take on
this topic. It has to do with Caleb Williams and
so and that he's been doing during training camp so far,
and people are already questioning his leadership style.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Congrats to some own Biles man another goal.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
She's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Her and Katy Ladecci. Man, they just don't play. No,
they do not play.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Katieladecci winning a silver medal with the women's swim team
and the four x two. I believe she has third
teen medals now, which makes her the most decorated female
Olympian of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Yeah, well, he's pretty impressive. Yeah. And when she wins.
A lot of times she on those distance swims, she
leaves you. I mean, she's just having a cup of
coffee right in a cigarette when you're still swimming. Okay, Yeah,
her fifteen meter the other night she won by dominant. Yeah,
she just kicked everybody's ass. There's been times I've watched
her win like events throughout in between when you'll watch

(01:34:29):
and she'll break a record or she's like the qualifying
events or whatever it is, and she'll be swimming and
she'll finish and it will literally be I mean there's
nobody in the screen. I mean they're they're halfway going
the other way, and she's already touched the wall to finish,
so they've I mean they got twenty five more meters,

(01:34:51):
fifteen more meters. I mean she'll finish fifty to sixty
meters ahead of people. That means it's crazy. I mean
she's like lapping them in the pool. And I mean
we see this stuff before, but the way she's dominated swimming,
in the way that the Simone Biles has comeback, and
the way she's dominated gymnastics. Pretty lucky to see two
really really phenomenal female performers do their thing. Then it's

(01:35:15):
awesome and the greatest picture you'll see we didn't even
talk about it. The Brazilian surfer who's literally off his board, Yeah,
jumps off his board, like suspended in mid air, like
he's standing and his board is next to him and
he's looking and gives my signal, you know, the number
one signal towards the beach, as if daddy I think
it was like a nine to nine that he rode.

(01:35:35):
It was incredible. But that'll be a picture that's iconic
for years. Performer off his board, suspended in mid air,
like he's literally standing up and has the wherewithal to
give you the the number one. I mean, just phenomenal, phenomenal.
That's going to make a great poster for him, or

(01:35:56):
wallpaper or iconic magazine cover or if he ever writes
a book or whatever he does, to put it on
a book cover, because that is as good of a
good of photo. What a what a catch by the photographer,
too clear, phenomenal. So there's some great performers at the Olympics,
not the least of which Simone Biles and Katie Ladecki

(01:36:18):
has been dominant.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Yeah, they have both been really good. And that picture
is just just flat out badass.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
It is completely badass. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:36:26):
It's really good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Caleb Williams did not play last night in the Hall
of Fame game, and already leadership style being criticized.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Why are you guys on his nuts so bad? Well, Sean,
why are you guys so why are you guys all are.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Let me let me preface this this audio before we
get to it. Allegedly, he is in the locker room
as a rookie telling his teammates like veterans, to clean
up after him. I know the type of type of
person you are, Sean, and if you were a veteran
in that locker room, you would tell him to f off,

(01:37:04):
or you would or you would haze it almost drop
then s bomb Hayes the hell out of him. No, Ki,
no rookie is gonna tell me as a veteran to
clean up after No, that's not happening.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Well, I can tell you this.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
You can go f right off, bro, I don't care
how much money you're making.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Yeah, he could be. He'd be taped to a goal
post in Minnesota. That's not well kind of No, we
saw it those offensive linemen. Not to the point where
it's painful and you're hurting right, not naked or your clothes,
but you'll get taped to a goal post if you
do something that's against the team, just to send a
little bit of a message. And it ain't just reserved

(01:37:40):
for rookies, Okay, I mean it was all in good fun, right,
Nobody was like tape for your strangle togeinst the goal post.
It was just like the alignment, thinking, you're gonna go
out there to stand for ten minutes and we're gonna
put you in the corner, and by the way, we'll
tape you while we're at it, just just for fun, right, Well,
that's hazing. No, nobody was taped out there in minus
twenty degree. Whether it was all in good fun and
somebody monitor to take him off, but it was to

(01:38:02):
send the message of no. It's similar to like rookies
happen to come in and you go buy donuts, and
as a rookie in Seattle, there's like three of us.
There are four of us that made the team, and
rotating every week, we had to go buy scones donuts, coffee.
You had one week, then when the four weeks were up,
then the next you started over again all through the season,

(01:38:22):
and you had to happen there before one veteran got
to the building because they deserve their coffee and doing.
I mean, that's the way it works. So I don't
know how true that story is. Listen, his leadership, I've
heard both ways. Like I said, from people in the
building at sc and out. The leadership's question there is there, diva.
I see a lot of those guys in the league.
I'm not defending calla Williams stole. Listen. I personally don't
care if he paints his nails. I go get manicures too,

(01:38:45):
I just buff mine, Okay, but I don't care if
he paints his nails. If you can win and go
do it now. You got to deal with the guys
giving you a hard time if you know we've discussed,
and be part of the guys and be self deprecating.
Part of being a leadership is not tell them what
to do. It's showing them and then fitting in. People
like it. I fit. It doesn't mean to conform. It
means to fit in to where you're one of the dudes.

Speaker 7 (01:39:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
It doesn't mean you have to go out with them
every night, but be one of the guys in the
locker room that you can joke and you're going to
treat them. And we shouldn't have to tell you that
you're going and buying your offensive lineman and that stuff
you take care of. So I've heard both. I don't
know if this is true or not, but if he
is telling your damn right to the veteran looking, are
you out of your bid? Let's reverse this. Matter of fact,
you go around and clean up everybody's tape around their
locker now. And he would have to do it if

(01:39:30):
some big veteran leader told her that the truth is
clean your own You just take care of your own business.
And when I'm not carrying your pads in you're a rookie,
mad or because you're a quarterback. Matter of fact, you're
a rookiequarterck. You carry the backup quarterback who's been in
the league longer than you, impede more drops than you.
I don't care that you played great in college. You're
in the NFL now. This whole different world there, buddy,

(01:39:51):
and we expect great things. The leadership will come when
it's not forced. So I don't know how true that
banter that you're talking about is, Brian and need no,
none of us do, right, Who knows? But the biggest
question about him is will he be a guy that
front runs will when things go when the crap hits
the fan, will his leadership go into the tank or
will he rise? What kind of leader is he going

(01:40:14):
to be? Away from X's and O's on the side.
In the Mill film, room. All those questions that we've
had about him. That was the number one down. It
wasn't canny play. We know he can play, it's how
is he going to be around the fellas, How's he
going to be with the community, How's he going to be?
So I'm gonna wait and see what happens. I've heard
both at SC. His performance says great player, the leadership.

(01:40:35):
I understand why there's been questions or is he the
type of guy you want lead and grown men? I
don't know. We're gonna find out. As an SC guy,
I had some of those questions too.

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
I know this.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
There's no questioning as skill set he was. He was
the best player in college football for the combined two years.
I'm not saying that he Dan Daniels was the best
last year, Dad Daniels the best player in college football?
Will you take his last two years and what he did?
He was the best player in college football though two
years now it's a different game on Sundays. But if
he is doing that, I would hope that you have

(01:41:05):
a strong veteran leadership that says, son, let me teach
you a valuable lesson about being a rookie. Better to
be a two years in one mouth, use them accordingly
as a rookie. For his sake, he's got to be
a little more verbal as a quarterback. But go win games,
make people better, take them along with you, put your
arm around him, kick him in the rear in when necessary,

(01:41:27):
and leadership will take over naturally, just like the guy
here did perform lead communicate talk. It's not about it's
me and you guys, it's us. And if Caleb Williams
gets that, he'll be a hell of a player. But
if that's true, that leadership will veterans in the locker
room will take care of that quickly, if it's a
strong locker.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
Room, real quick, before we get to break.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
This is a Monti tumor on the Carton Show yesterday
talking about the situation. He's Russell Wilson two point zero
h is not gonna go over.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Well, if you came to the locker room, I've been here.
I've been in this locker room for eight years, like
you said, And you know some.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Rookie is gonna come in who hasn't played one snap
right talking.

Speaker 12 (01:42:11):
You know we're wearing the fingernail polish.

Speaker 8 (01:42:13):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
Now he's gonna come in here and tell me.

Speaker 16 (01:42:16):
We've been here, we've been through the struggle that I
need to clean up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
No, how about rookie, how about you clean up after me?
How about that?

Speaker 5 (01:42:23):
Don't give me this crap. I don't like it at all.
I feel like rookies should earn their respect.

Speaker 7 (01:42:28):
Sure, just because you got drafted number.

Speaker 17 (01:42:30):
One doesn't mean nothing to me, because I don't even
know if you're good.

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
But I think he's trying to be.

Speaker 15 (01:42:35):
He may have even said it somewhat your tongue in cheek,
but I think he's trying to be a leader.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
He's trying to be that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Now, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Stop stop, just just play the game. Prove to me
that you're really you're really here to be a star.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Yeah, here's here's what I take from that. Moni's exactly right.
Didn't say the same thing. I said, you clean up
my best rookie. Yes, I don't care. I've been in
the league. Listen, I've actually a few drops that you're
a number one? Can we expect you to be a superstar?
But until you line up and put the cleats on
and start on a Sunday in the NFL and lead us,
you're nothing more than just a name on the back
of the jersey right now and one of us. But

(01:43:11):
the only way you get to be one of us
if you act like one of us. Just because where
you were drafted means nothing. This is an sc anymore, buddy,
So I'm with them Oni one hundred percent. That doesn't
go over with KG veterans. You want those fellas on
the offensive line and defensive front to know that you
got their back, and then they'll have your back. You
don't have to. Well, my thing is, you heard the
other host that that might have been Craig Cardon say

(01:43:31):
he's trying. That's the problem leadership that you got to
for Saint leadership. Trying is not leadership that should just
flow naturally. You get a feel for locker rooms, what
guys want and the last thing you should be doing.
And even though you're a rookie, I mean, you got
to be verbal in meetings about what you see on coverage,
but when it comes to the fellas, you should be
seen more and heard less. And that's the way it is,

(01:43:53):
and the respect and the leadership will come if you've
got to battle for RESK I mean, for if you're
not just living right. But if you've got a battle
for leadership and force it talk about crowbar No, no, no,
that comes. That just flows naturally with every day, fitting
in with the fellas. Go talk to the guy on
defense by lunch one day when the fellas don't expect it.
Don't ask for anything. Be a truck, not a tractor.

(01:44:14):
I mean a truck, not a trailer. Should I say,
as a rookie, you ain't having nobody pull you along.
I mean, be a truck where you're leading them the
right way. But don't be the guy that's back there
that every time we turn around there's diva and he
may be Russ Wilson two point zero. What you want
to do right now when you get in the league,
be quite opposite of that. Be the guy that everybody
go do. Run through a wall, over a wall, around

(01:44:36):
a wall for you, even as a rookie. But you
don't have to ask for it. You got to earn
it because there's guys that have been in the league
longer right now. I guarantee there's guys on that roster
saying now that's a pro Brett Rippen, look what he did.
That's the way it works. Caleb Williams has to prove
that he belongs with the Fellas as opposed to just
being a good football player, or you're in trouble, you
won't last.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
Let's get to break and we'll continue the discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
Next.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
We're The Sewn Salisbury Show continued Bill Bill, good morning, Good.

Speaker 18 (01:45:07):
Morning, Sean, Good morning, Brian and Tripoli.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
I got chall covered, nobody's left up.

Speaker 7 (01:45:13):
Now we're good to go.

Speaker 18 (01:45:18):
I was gonna say good morning to Ross, but he's
not there today.

Speaker 9 (01:45:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
The Caleb Williams thing, this is being twisted sideways. Guys.

Speaker 18 (01:45:26):
He didn't come in there and say let's clean up
after me. He's saying, let's not leave our locker rooms
and our places that we work out in a mess
for the custodian staff and the people that work these buildings,
who work hard enough as it is. He wanted to
try to build a culture kind of like you read
a story about Ed Reed years ago with the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Say hey, guys, we can't do this kind of stuff.
This is an all pro leading the.

Speaker 18 (01:45:49):
Way and say let's let's not make you know, let's
not trash these places for these people who got to
come in and pick up our towels and our garbage
and our bandages and our bull excuse me bull crap.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
I almost said it.

Speaker 18 (01:46:03):
Williams did not say at all, I want you guys
coming in and picking up after me. He's saying, as
a beam, as a culture, culture, let's let's get together
and let's not make let's.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Not make work for more people. Hey, Bill, dude, But
before I answered that question, Before I answered that question,
that exactly did I not say, Well, before we somebody's
opinion of what they heard, because now with social media
and radio shows across, they just start to start spewing
stuff all over the place about well this is what
I heard. Kayleaba said, you know what I mean. That's

(01:46:36):
why I said, Well, first off, I got it. I
gotta know that this was said before I said, because
I'm sitting here trying to figure even if you're the
biggest prick, arrogant diva on the planet who walks into
a locker room as a rookie and says you pick
up my stuff, that you're not just joking with your buddy, right,
because then and Bill reminds me of a quick story man,
and you can hang on and make a comment when

(01:46:58):
we're done with this. I my rookie year. We're in Seattle.
We were in Seattle in it's training camp. It was
mini camp. Chuck knock, old school veteran, was our head coach,
and the Nordstrom family owned the Seahawks at the time,
and I mean the they were so it was pretty
Our facilities were nice, and our locker room tape you

(01:47:21):
know guy that you know sometimes you get to the
point where there's like a trash can next to you,
and guys will cut off their tape and throw it
on the ground and not throw it in the trash.
I mean the tab trash cans right next to you
and it's on the ground. Guys are tired or they're wet,
dirty towels they throw right next to the to the
big old cart that we put in there for our laundry,
instead of just pick it up and throw it in there,
because assuming somebody else will pick it up. And I'm

(01:47:41):
telling you, we were one practice in. We came back
to the next meeting and Chuck Knox obliterated us as
a team by saying, and even if you're obsessive, compulsive, youfall.
We're all one team, and if one's doing it we're
all doing it. Tape was our locker room was filthy,
and he just I'm telling ripped us a new rear

(01:48:03):
end about the janitors who come in here and they'll
clean up. That's somebody's mom and dad. What if it
was yours clean up after yourself and from thetown. This
was mini camp, my rookie year talking to what you
think about the veterans we had on that team, and
we never again. You want people clean the hair off,

(01:48:23):
you know, the sink when they shave in staff. I
mean you could have. I mean our locker room was
pristine after that. It took one meeting in Mini Camp.
So and now on the other side, if Kayleb Williams
did say, hey, fellas, somebody's mom and dad are cleaning
doing this, what if it was us just put your
tape in, you know, clean up, or walk by and
throw a towel in there so somebody else doesn't have

(01:48:45):
to do it. Now that is leadership. See how see
how it can get skewed, Bill, And I'm so glad
you said this. He can get skewed from all the
guys at DIVA because look at his past at USC
that we don't really know fully about that. He's actually
trying to help the leadership.

Speaker 12 (01:49:00):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Let's keep this place clean. I mean Brian and I Brian.
When you walk into a studio and there's an empty
there's a little bit of coffee, a bottle of water,
and a paper towel sitting on the desk that's been
used or some food that didn't get thrown away, what's
your first thought? Let's go thank you want to get
a head explode? Right? So see how that fine line is.
That's why I said I got to know for sure

(01:49:20):
that if he said this, because who says that to
a bunch of veterans well as his bill as you
talk about now, that is leadership. And when Chuck Knock
said that to us, never again was anybody leaving the
tape sitting next there for the cleaning service to come
in and do it. And while they're cleaning toilets and
your hair out of the sink, have a little respect
for somebody who's doing it. And I do believe those
little things bond teams together or tear them apart. I do.

(01:49:44):
I'm big on the organization and leadership. If you're willing
to allow your locker room to be sloppy. Isn't your
game plan going to be sloppy too? I believe that
I do. I do believe that one hundred percent, Bill,
So I appreciate you clearing that up because I'm not
willing to bury a guy until I know the facts,
because we do that to the days.

Speaker 18 (01:50:03):
So only because I'm a Bear fan. I'm a Bear
fan all my life, slide. I saw this because I
follow Chicago media too.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
As much as I Yeah, good, So they kind of
they kind of there's national guys.

Speaker 18 (01:50:15):
They just took it and they tilted it about two
degrees off center and it ran with it and just
took it just a wrong direction.

Speaker 4 (01:50:25):
So the articles that I have here in front of
me are two national, nationally known articles, and they have
the complete opposite story of what you're telling me, Bill.
So that's why I brought it up, and I played
the money tumor uh the money. I'm not saying you're
I'm not saying that you're not correct. I'm just saying,
who knows. You get one narrative on social media and
then you get a local beat writer that's right there
in the locker room and knows better than anybody, which, yeah,

(01:50:50):
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Extremes. Yeah, the extremes both ways. Is it somewhere somebody's
lying or somebody's got the story wrong? So where is
they lie? Somewhere in the middle. And was he joking
when he said, hey, man, come on, clean mine up too,
while you're at it joking and passing it really said nah, dude,
I got youa Or was it now you clean up
my and or is it the other end? Guys, let's
keep a locker room clean. See how see how it

(01:51:12):
can get lost in translation and it will say, well,
that guy sucks and in turn, you know who you
want to ask? Go talk to the players who are
staying next to him what he meant by it. But
that's what I mean, Brian and Bill, is that we
are so quick to somebody said something and we find
out no, no, no, he didn't say that at all,
or he did say it, But think of look at
the extremes of the once one hundred and eighty degrees

(01:51:36):
different than the other. And so I'm not prepared. I'm
never I don't want to be first when it comes
to breaking that. I want to be right. So when
we be But there's an if that's why you put it.
If if he did do that, then they the veterans
ought to make sure he takes a little bit of
a humble pie. If he didn't do it, and is
what Bill, what you're saying, then veterans need to take

(01:51:56):
and say, now that's the way we're supposed to keep
a locker room. He's a damn right. It is is
that's somebody's parents cleaning up after you.

Speaker 4 (01:52:02):
So it is uh six seventy the score that's up
in Chicago, reputable station. Okay, So so another article that
I'm reading here because I'm I'm digging as you guys
are discussing it. It looks like one of the safeties
for the Bears. Kevin Kevin Baird, I guess, uh yeah,

(01:52:23):
byered he was on he was on that radio station
and he gave his take on on Caleb Williams, and
it was going into what you were saying, Bill, where
he said, hey, keep this place a little bit cleaner,
like you know, there are people that are working here
that you know, the custodian so forth and so on.
But then you turn to a different article and a
different media outlet and it's the complete opposite.

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
So it's like, come on, man, like, where where is it?

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Okay, well let me ask you this though, if if
if on the sirt, we have no idea, right because
we're not there and it's and we're sitting here saying, okay,
how do you judge this? Because you know what? You
know what people are going to want to lean to
lean into in nationale. Oh, this is the reputation he
had at USC the reputation. Remember, reputation doesn't act to
be carried. It's reputa what what people think you is.

(01:53:06):
They're gonna think that anyway. So oh, it automatically carries
to Chicago even if it is there isn't true? Now,
Kevin Byert, who's a player. Now when you think a
guy standing next to him would have a pretty good idea, Now,
I don't know which one's true, but and or maybe
he's protecting his quarterback. I don't know. But the truth
is until we do know why over compliment or over criticism,

(01:53:27):
I'm now, I don't need to be first with that,
None of us do we need to be like because
that can ruin somebody's reputation, whether you think it's ruined
or not.

Speaker 12 (01:53:34):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
I just I just don't like, well, this is what
I heard from who. Well, I don't give away my source, Okay,
but a player in the locker room is telling you
that he said, let's just keep the place cleaner. And
if that is what he did, just like we said,
if he was a pain in the ass and veterans
will take care of it, then that's good leadership to
make sure we keep it clean. Because I'm going to

(01:53:56):
tell you if you're if your locker room looks like
a pig sty I'm assuming your preparation for a games
the same way. That's how I look at it.

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
Good stuff, Bill, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Great stuff, Thank you, Bill, appreciate it. Guys, Hey, thank you.

Speaker 17 (01:54:09):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:54:10):
Have a good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Because leadership is earned.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
You know, you don't get crowned the leader because you're
a first round draft pick. But it's also the other
way around. I'm not I don't care what you did
in the past. When you walk into our locker room,
I'm going to judge you by how you treat this group,
how you treat us, how you treat the team, how
you treat me. That's how I'm judging you. I could
care less when you walk in here? How are you here?
People rehab themselves all the time, not just saying Caleb.

(01:54:34):
Anytime we've all been on a team where a guy
comes with reputation of great dude or diva. How he
treats you there is what I'm judging him on. How
because there may be different circumstances in some other city,
and that's just the way I am. And then he
treats you, I'll read the book. I'll read the book
when he's in my locker room, and then I'll judge.
And when I when there's enough smoke, there'll be fire.

(01:54:55):
So then you judge a teammate that way. I don't
care what he did in a usc Now he's not
at you see anymore. Now, if he brings a lot
of baggage, then he's gonna have a lot of work
to do. But if it's not as much as they said,
and the Bears didn't seem to think, so, now we'll
find out how you treat this locker room as an
NFL quarterback, because crap's gonna hit the fan, he's gonna
have a bad game. How will he deal with it?
And how will he deal with success? Teammates are always watching.

(01:55:18):
Never forget that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
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Speaker 7 (01:55:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Yeah, that's total extremes. Yeah, completely, it's not Listen. If
he did do it, then you know he needs to
take a step back and realize that's not how you
win teams over. I just I'm sitting here trying to
think of unless you're just a complete buffoon who walks

(01:55:58):
into a locker room telling veterans and demanding that they
clean up after him, who would When you think about it, Brian,
you think about it, I'm not I don't know who
broke that. That part of the story wrote. I'm not
questioning their legitimacy. I don't really care. That's why I
always say, okay, well what's the other side, and now
the one hundred and eighty to the other side. Oh no,
he was just saying, let's keep this place clean, you know,

(01:56:20):
And then you know, maybe he's obsessive compulsive about cleanly,
So that's fine. That tells me he's organized and I've
heard both. I've had coaches at USC tell me that
the guys on the team loved him, two different coaches,
the coach on that staff. And then you hear the
other stuff. You know that all this stuff and maybe

(01:56:41):
you know you protect your guy, and it's usually land
somewhere in the middle. I'm sure he's had some diva
moments and some moments you question. I'm sure he's had
plenty where the guys rallied around him and said, you
know what, that's our guy. It happens on all teams.
But that reputation that left him with USC all of
a sudden, Now, so where is it? Did a teammate
say yeah, Bayern say no, man, this guy just wants
to keep our locker room clean, and say, you know

(01:57:03):
somebody else is doing it. Let's help out the staff here.
People work here. And then the other side of oh no,
you clean up after me all the time. And you
know we do joke about stuff in the locker room too.
Hey man, you got mine? Yeah, here you listen, why
don't you pick my tape up to laughing in a
veteran A veteran looking like, dude, you out of your mind?
Smile and move on. So I don't know where it

(01:57:24):
falls because I'm not there, but the speculation how it's
so the extremes these That's what I'm saying, until you
finally talk to a player or somebody in there, because
I don't know many people that if you were that
type of leader, the first one, you can't survive that
position in this league. I mean you'd have to be
such a good player. You'd have to be you know,

(01:57:46):
Peyton Manning by five and Tom Brady if you're going
to have that kind of I mean lack of leadership
on the initial report Brian that you said, you come on, man,
who lives like that? And I can tell you this,
it's hard to last and sustain greatness if the guys
on the team don't believe in you. Now listen. The
other side of it is if I don't find fire

(01:58:07):
in your belly and there's some kind of you is
just a full blown prick on the practice field on
when you got gear on, then I'll probably show you
a guy who you know that doesn't mean loud and
cutting people out, embarrassing. I've seen great leadership from that
position or on teams both ways. I've seen defensive guys
that will call your ass out on the spot in
the practice field, and people respond to that. I've seen

(01:58:30):
the Warren Moons who Warren wasn't a loud talking leader.
He was the epitome of showing exactly how you do
it without having to tell people. But when he spoke,
you shut up and listened, period, because when he spoke
he had something to say. Warren didn't just talk to talk.
There are some who do that think that more verbiage

(01:58:50):
equal better leadership. No, and then there's the Brady's listen.
I've talked to people when Marino and Shula were coaching
and when Dan, who was a fiery leader or did
practice and Peyton man in the same way, practice wasn't
over when the schedule said it was over. Usually was
over when Peyton, Manning or Marina decided no, no, no,
we got to go three more reps on this coach.

(01:59:11):
This is ridiculous. I've talked to players who played with
Manning and said and Marino, they said, listen, man, you're
not just out there doing your thing. You're out there
because you don't want to get the wrath of them
on the practice field. Aikman the same way. I mean,
I've heard this from people who've played with them, and
so don't mistake that, Oh he's not a good leader

(01:59:31):
because he's a prick and he's too hard to deal
with when it comes to doing things right. No, no, no,
that is the essence of great leadership. I'm not just
gonna tell I'm gonna show you. But here's what we
got to do communicating. Okay, So find me a guy
who doesn't do that, have a little bit of that
in him. All great players have that edge, and Caleb
Williams and needs to find the fine line into finding that.

(01:59:53):
But it doesn't mean you got to be the loudest voice.
You got to be the best example of how to
do it and to raise people's game. That's where real
leadership comes in.

Speaker 5 (02:00:04):
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fan base was split or maybe a little bit leaning
towards not happy with the trade deadline. Well, now we
get to see how the trade pans out, Kakuchie takes

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Speaker 4 (02:01:17):
You say, Kakuchi gonna make his debut for the Astros
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Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:01:31):
Give me six innings, eight or nine k's that's what
I want. Pitch count, keep it down a little bit,
maybe get into the seventh because man, oh man, if
he doesn't pitch well, the fan base is gonna go nuts.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
Yeah, I uh to me, I'm I'm expecting good things
from him tonight, I am and I and maybe that's
part of you know, manifesting some good things. And remember
we're not holding the trade against him. I mean we're trying.
He's now an astro. So whatever your feelings thought about him,
let's hope that you can think about, okay, when he's

(02:02:07):
when he's an all star type performer, what are we
going to get? Which has been it's been at times
a rough goal of it. At times he's going through
one of the rougher stretches when it comes to statistically
in the way it's going. But he's held in pretty
good regard across the league. Man. And this wasn't the
only team that wanted him, as Dana Brown mentioned, O, no, no,
there was. There were more teams that want him. They
just got the best deal out of this one. And

(02:02:29):
if it's an overpay, we'll soon find out. Like I said,
on the surface, only matters until you go. Like I said,
it's like a preseason prediction right now. I know in
preseason predictions, well, we have evidence of Kokuchi in Toronto,
well yeah, in his career, and that's that's part of it.
But we also know that when you change, things have

(02:02:52):
gone better for a lot of times when pictures have
come here and elevated, it's a better roster, it's a
better team. So what he's done, you can say you
got some measurables and some comparisons, but now he's now
an Astro, so we should hope.

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
You should beg.

Speaker 1 (02:03:07):
You shouldn't beg for it to be a screwed up
trade because low Berfito's gone. He ain't on here this
team anymore. So are the other two cats in Bloss
and Wagner. You should hope that he comes in here
pitches like a cy young guy, and that he rediscovers
why people fell you know, loved him in the first place.
So it's start all over, and let's hope the Astros

(02:03:27):
can bring out the best in him, because you want
this trade to work out in your favor now, because
it's you know, you've kind of gone all in on
a rental for World Series run and he thinks he's
a top three rotation guy. Let's go. And I expect
him to pitch better here. I do.

Speaker 5 (02:03:44):
I would expect that as well.

Speaker 4 (02:03:45):
I think there's gonna be some adjustments made, especially working
with this pitching coach, Josh Miller and his entire staff,
Coach Murphy as well on the pitching staff. I think, yeah,
I think we're going to see some improves for him.
Optimistically speaking three seven ninety Roger, what do you expect
from Kacucie tonight?

Speaker 19 (02:04:05):
Well, I expect hopefully not to be in the fourth
inning and uh they popped toots you to four runs
or something like that. I expect the quality start at
least there is gonna be not a very big change.
We're gonna poor Astro fans to expect very subtle and
graduate changes. We've got a language barrier to go through,
and we also have a catcher to work with him,

(02:04:28):
and INDs gotta work with him and and and see
what his best pictures are. And then from what I've
read and what I've learned so far as you can get,
they're gonna taper down his fastball and not not not
to feature his fasketball so much. Has trit to explore
the off breads but stuff and try to try to
uh uh work work, work as pitch counts as far

(02:04:51):
as balls destrict where he's not wasting so many pictures.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
And also.

Speaker 19 (02:04:57):
I would I would also expect that that now get
your onus, and the focus is now off Dana Brown,
and now the spotlight shines on like you said, the
pitching staff, the coaching staff, and sorry as far as
as Holly mold him. And how how this trafformation's gonna
take place. And it's not gonna be a one day
uh you know, twenty four hour bill. This is going

(02:05:19):
to be a gradual, slow trafformation. Hopefully it works for
the best.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
You know.

Speaker 19 (02:05:23):
I just hope that he goes a quality start, give
us six innings, quality star baseball. I don't even really
care about the strikeout, but I know it's there. So
let's just throw in seven case and hopefully all I
have fellas, you'll have a safe, great weekend. I'm gonna
go sweat it out at the golf course right on today.

Speaker 4 (02:05:40):
There you go, brother, hit him straight and enjoy the weekend.
Like his style, you ain't hit them straight.

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
I know that your ass be out there at it
again today. I don't know why you're tripping. Be out
there like Rogers early, you know, Early go out there
and haven't decided if maybe True North, maybe Western Kierland,
maybe Boulders. Okay, I'm going to play, Yeah, ask me why.

Speaker 5 (02:06:10):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
Anybody. Yeah, if you're afraid of the heat, to go
play golf?

Speaker 12 (02:06:19):
Do you know what?

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
Get out? How's that? Yeah? You ain't me? Okay, that's
all I'll tell you. When it comes to the heat.
Done dry, I'm in a dry heat. Now come on, now, Son,
he thirty six or bust and is throwing a gymn
He's gonna throw hold up thro hitter, that's what he's
gonna do. Well, you know what, wouldn't it be fitting? Well, okay,

(02:06:44):
he throws a no hitter. What do you if he
throws a no hitter? What are you doing? You're saying, okay,
validate the trade automatically because he threw no hitter. More,
you'll party exactly what you should. You got a party,
got a party. I think he's gonna pitch. Well, that's
just me.

Speaker 5 (02:07:02):
To validate the trade. All right, This is I mean,
we've talked so much about this trade.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
You know he ain't validating one in one.

Speaker 4 (02:07:11):
Right, You're not gonna be able to validate it honestly
until damn near like probably the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
Well, when the postseasons, oh yeah yeah, performs, then no doubt.

Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
It'd be interesting to see, let's say he does pitch well,
they get to the playoffs and he gets a starter
or excuse me whatever, It's going to be interesting to
see if they re sign him, since he is a
rental and on a contract.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
Here at least try to right, Yeah, try to re
sign him. Yeah, I'm that'd be interesting to see as well.
I'm with you on that. What uh do do you
really expect good things from him?

Speaker 4 (02:07:43):
I expect improvement. I think that's first and foremost for
me is just it. Get just throw more strikes, throw
your change up more. You know, he only throws this
change up and it's weird because he's a left handed arm.
Left handers are just naturally throw tons of change. He
only throws it like ten percent of the time. Throw
it twenty two percent of the time, twenty three percent

(02:08:04):
of the time, twenty five percent.

Speaker 5 (02:08:06):
Of the time.

Speaker 1 (02:08:07):
We know he can induce swing and miss too. Right.

Speaker 4 (02:08:09):
Yeah, he's got the upper upper velocity when he wants
on his fastball. He's got the stuff, but for whatever reason,
just was not executing it in Toronto. So hopefully change
of scenery, new coaching staff, a winning program, winning organization,
I would expect improvement.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
Yes, that there is no question. If you don't get improvement,
then you're gonna end up saying at the end of
this run that it was a horrible trade. Right, So
it like I said, there's well Dana said it, like
we said after he said it to validate it. There's
there is two grades. You're going to give him the
grade you want from statistics and how he spent before

(02:08:47):
he got here and what you gave up to get him.
And across baseball. I haven't read one where they, I mean,
these so called experts say that they felt like the
Astros won the trade. Yet Okay, so that's how they feel,
And so I get it performance and I understand the
fans frustration of what you gave up on an already
somewhat depleted farm system anyway. But the other side, you know,

(02:09:08):
they do their due diligence. We've we've trusted this team
for seven years and they've found a way to come
through in most of the time. And Dana Brown believing
in this and making this decision. So the next grade
comes from you get your your grade, first semester grade,
what's it going to be when the season's over, And
that'll be that'll be the grade that we'll be able

(02:09:28):
to judge the trade on. We're not judging the trade now,
you know. I mean we're judging it and giving our opinion,
but we don't have any validation over it if it's
good or not in the end, because we haven't seen
him pitch yea here, so he may be lights out
and they may validate the people's concerns saying we gave
up too much, and we'll know that. And it's not
going to take long because we got what three months
left in the season, two and a half months, stuff

(02:09:49):
like that. Yep, you get, you're gonna find out. It'll
be right for your your eyes in God's eyes to
see so and tonight it starts and he is an
astro now, so should we should pull the same way
you would every single damn time one of yours takes
the mount. That's the way it should be. It's not
his fault he got traded, but he's probably gratefully did
to come here. He's got a far better chance to

(02:10:11):
put a ring on his finger than he did where
he was, far.

Speaker 5 (02:10:13):
Better, much better chance than in Toronto. That's for damn sure.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:10:17):
Seven one three two point two five seven ninety is
the number to join. We got a couple of guys
that want to get in on this Yusai Kakuchi discussion.
We will hit on that next and will Kyle Tucker
be back by September. Brian McTaggart uh MLB dot com
rider covering the Astros. He was on with our sports
MT yesterday and he gave uh some interesting points about

(02:10:41):
Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 5 (02:10:42):
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Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (02:12:05):
We'll start an order alongest wait and we'll go to Carlos. Carlos,
good morning.

Speaker 14 (02:12:10):
Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (02:12:12):
Fantastic brother, what's on your mind about these strows.

Speaker 14 (02:12:15):
Well, let me tell you, I don't care what kind
of pitching you have, but if we can't get any runs.

Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
It's off or not.

Speaker 14 (02:12:22):
You could have the best cy Young Award winners on
the on the mound, but we got to get the runs.
That being said, I've seen Schwarber and all these other guys,
Harper and all these other guys going through a drought.
So I'm hoping that that you know, your line's gonna
snap out of his and and uh, you know that
those bottom bottom rotation guys come through and everything. But

(02:12:45):
let me ask you a question. Guys, Okay, your picture
on the mount and your team is you know, you
know you're struggling to get runs and you're in the
sixth inning like Hunter Brown is and whoever the picture is,
do you start looking at your picturing or the throws
that you're gonna throw out there a little bit differently
knowing that your team is struggling to score runs.

Speaker 1 (02:13:07):
And I'll just hang up and listen to.

Speaker 5 (02:13:10):
Thank you, Carlos.

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
Go ahead, man, and I'll give you my opinion when
you're done.

Speaker 5 (02:13:16):
I know it's.

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
I'm trying to think of how to pay so I know,
like when your offense isn't scoring for you, I know
it gets frustrating, but yet you still can't change your
game plan. You have to stick with it and you've
got to continue to execute your pitches. But I do know,
I mean, you know how in game momentum is not
just in game momentum. You know that it comes to
a point where if your team continues to leave guys

(02:13:42):
on base, you can feel the momentum start to roll
to the other side. And at some point, even if
you're throwing a gem, you know, at some point the
offense you're thrown against. You can execute pitches, but a
little dinker here and then a little broken bat jam
shot to the right moves the guy over. Next thing,
you know, they score and your offense isn't doing a
damn thing, and there goes your ball game.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Does that make sense? Less margin for air?

Speaker 5 (02:14:06):
Yeah, exactly. Then you got it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:07):
Then you have to execute your pitches to a higher extent.
You know, some early in the game, Hey, I may
get away with the hanging curveball, but when games are tight,
you don't get away with that because that's just how
baseball goes.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Right, I think, I think depending on where you are too.
For instance, if you're pitching for the Astros and you
look at your lineup, you say, there's no way we stay.
You keep us down that long. So there is that
that that is the benefit of knowing that you still
got to see al Twove and Bregman and when Tucker's on,
and and Alvarez and Jiner Diaz and Payna. The lineups

(02:14:41):
deep so year. As a pitcher, I would think it's
like if you're a you've got a great you're a
defensive player, and your offense is struggling in the NFL
for two weeks, but you're loaded, like you got Stroud,
or you had Morinos teams, or you have you know,
Patrick Mahomes teams. You know, eventually as a defense, we're okay,
eventually we're gonna hang forty and we're gonna go on

(02:15:02):
a three game run. So there is that that looms
because you know the personnel you have. And it applies
to pitching too. But the other side, Brian I think
is one hundred percent Tree. You've got to continue to
take care of what you do. But I can tell
you this, regardless of what anybody says, if you're pitching
well and you're going through and your team continues to
struggle in run scoring situations, you know what you do.

(02:15:25):
You become a little too fine and too cute, and
then you say, well, normally, well a solo home run
won't hurt me here when things are going good, so
you give up solo homer. You expect your team, well,
they're going to hang five or six anyway. But when
they're not going good, then you can get a little
too cute and say, I can't afford a two run double,

(02:15:46):
I can't afford a bloop single with a guy in
second driving because I'm not sure where we are. So
what happens is then you get a little too cute.
And then when you get a little too cute, as
you know this, Brian, what happens that's when you throw
a ball right down the middle because you're trying to
be too fine and instead of pitching your throwing on me,
let me try to throw this start and you miss
and then the guy hammers it so you can there

(02:16:06):
is it? I know that in an offense it's been
going on where you're like and if all of a
sudden you're struggling, you're struggling or your defense your offense
is struggling, and you're like, man, it's a defense. We
can't give up. There's that other side where it's like,
we got to hold a team to fourteen. So what
do you do? You may maybe you creep back and
playing your heels a little bit, play a little more conservative,
and then they catch you off guard, boom, and they

(02:16:28):
hit you for a big strike and your offense can't match.
So there is that. The key is to be able
to stay with which which you do, and stay aggressive
on what built you and hopes that their talent will
come out of it. But eventually it has to have
an effect on you that you say, man, if I'm
not perfect, then we're struggling. And when you try to
be perfect, you get too cute. And when you get

(02:16:50):
too cute, that's when you make mistakes. The aggressiveness has
to stay there regardless of what the offense is doing.
With every pitcher that takes them mount, they've got to
play to their strikes.

Speaker 5 (02:17:00):
Let's talk to Mark Mark, good morning.

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
Good morning.

Speaker 13 (02:17:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
One point about coming out of a slump.

Speaker 13 (02:17:08):
Take more pitches, make make the picture, throw more pitches,
run the pitch count up on him, and eventually you're
gonna get more walks and somebody's gonna and they're gonna
come out of that because the picture's tired and he's
gonna hang one. But uh, what I expect out of
Koochie is a no hitter now realistically, Uh, just a

(02:17:33):
good solid win, that's all.

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
And I'll hang up with you. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:17:39):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Mark, Thanks Mark, good point. And he's he's first. He's
obviously right. You make the picture work more. If we're
talking from the offensive side, we are talking, you know what,
our last collar belt? What's the picture psyche? What's he
thinking about when the offense isn't scoring. But the same
is true if you're an offensive picture you now, I
mean your friend offensive player, and you're you're hitting to

(02:18:03):
make that pitcher work a little harder to give you.
Maybe you get a freebie along the way, no doubt.
And as far as Cacuchi, I'm I'm you know what,
six and a third of solid pitching, not not giving
free passes away and making quality pitches and it'd be fine.
He's got good stuff and realizing you're now with the

(02:18:23):
team that you can go win a World Series, So
let it rip, don't come in You don't need He
don't need to come in here being too cute or
too fine either, because he knows the verbiage that's going
he knows what's going on is to come in here
and he hasn't pitched his best to come in here
and realize you're on a team that can help you elevate.
Let them do their work. Let let them do work.
I expect a good performance out of Kacucci tonight five plus,

(02:18:46):
but uh, you know, maybe it's a lot of swing
and miss and hopefully he's spotting and locating more than
one pitch.

Speaker 4 (02:18:51):
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Talk seven ninety. They could be running out of runway
for Kyle Tucker. If he doesn't get going soon, not
good news. It's just the weirdest thing ever.

Speaker 5 (02:21:02):
Sean.

Speaker 1 (02:21:03):
Yeah. I asked Dana Brown two weeks ago if Kyle
Tucker is there's a chance we won't see him till September,
and he said, oh, I'd be awfully disappointed if we
didn't see him before then. And it doesn't look like
we're going to now, Dana, meaning you know, you don't
know how he can't judge the threshold. He just goes
by what he hears and sees, and I mean by

(02:21:26):
his medical staff and Kyle Tucker. Right when I hear
Brian McTaggart, who I trust with when it comes to
baseball and insight everything, I mean everything he says I
believe in. Is when you're running out a runway, when
does it become a point to where how deep into
September are you going to be? If if Kyle Tucker

(02:21:47):
still struggling to get right where you're saying he's not
going to play this year anymore, we're in the what
do you say, We're in the fifty some games left?
Fifty four Okay, so to September, we're on the this
is this with the second of August or third second
second second of August. So we're talking, let's just say

(02:22:12):
second of August twenty four games the rest of the month,
is that about right? Twenty three games somewhere in the twenties.
If you got thirty one days, you got off days
for travel. I don't know how many off days they
have in the month of August, but I'm assuming they've
got twenty plus games in the month of August still
to play twenty three, twenty four something like that. They
didn't play yesterday, so that was August first. This will

(02:22:35):
be their first game in August. And let's say twenty
five games in August. Is that about right? You don't
get more than five days off in the month of August.

Speaker 4 (02:22:43):
To you, So they have like right around twenty eight games. Okay,
now you go, yeah, sorry, I was counting. That's why
you have the paul no problem.

Speaker 1 (02:22:51):
So twenty in and I knew you we recount, so
that's why I was just kind of throwing it out there. Okay,
so twenty eight games and that'll take you to then
you'll be down twenty eight. That's fifty six right, yes,
forty and fifty six games. You'll be half of those
games he's missing half more than likely is going to
miss more than half of the remaining games. Yeah, that's

(02:23:14):
if he's ready to go September first. Now, if he's
not ready to go September first or early September the
first week, let's say okay, after Labor Day, that's what
four or five more games. Now, that's thirty three games,
so now you got to Now you're getting tuned up.
And if he's not, if he's not at minor league

(02:23:35):
assignment yet and he's just doing baseball activity with him. Now, okay,
another week, So now you're into you're into forty plus games.
So literally, regardless if if Brian says, and I believe
in one and September, we've questioned when he's going to
be ready for a long time, meaning Kyle Tucker is it.

(02:24:00):
If that's the case, we will be less than half
of the fifty four games to go. You will be
now in the in the you know, twenty five games
to go. Or so when he comes back when September hits,
I'm not sure when he's going to be healthy then,
so now what and then when he comes back health
and is finding his way out, you know, you got
to get into that early season. How do we know

(02:24:21):
he's going to be hot. How's he going to respond
after all this time out against big league pitching? How
long will it take him to be hot? Because it's
not just what he gets ready for in the postseason.
You still got to get into the postseason. So that's
not good news. It's just not that none of that
is good news. And I think it's probably one hundred

(02:24:41):
percent true news, But you think about it. Minimum of
thirty more games he's missing if this is the case, minimum,
which would leave twenty four games to go. And that's
if you're lucky. The first way week of September.

Speaker 4 (02:24:54):
All right, we got four gentlemen on hold, and we
got some celebrities here on the horn, Sean for the
first one.

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I know I'm in them in one of the buses. Guys,
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You are. Tom.

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You got to stop being a stranger man. You worry us.

Speaker 12 (02:25:40):
I'm doing the.

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Best I can.

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There we go.

Speaker 12 (02:25:45):
Hey, I want to I want to take something from
what Seawn has just talked about. Bigger than Outkam, I
want to start from where they come.

Speaker 9 (02:25:54):
We all remember what the Ashers were doing when they
were twelve twenty four. They had me at the top
of the legs and then at may Fax threatening to jump,
and I called the show and you guys talked me down.
I decided that I was going to keep my oars
in the water and root for them because I knew
they were a better team than twelve and twenty four.

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Now since then, they've found forty.

Speaker 12 (02:26:17):
Four and twenty eight. So look at what that is, twelve.

Speaker 9 (02:26:21):
Games under five hundred to sixteen games over five. So
we erased those twelve games and now we're sitting at
four games over five hundred on all of the second Now,
if you look at a major league season, you got
eighteen stretches, You've got nine stretches of eighteen games.

Speaker 12 (02:26:45):
That's on one hundred and.

Speaker 9 (02:26:46):
Sixty two, all right, So they're in their seventh stretch then,
So forget about twelve and twenty four and the third
stretch they went twelve and six, in the fourth, they
went nine to nine, in the fifth, thirteen and five,
and in the sixth, which just ended on the thirty

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thirty of July, they were ten and eight, so they
were over five hundred in each one of these last
four eighteen game runs. The question I have for you
is is this aye six and twelve team on August
second or a thirteen and five team. That's where I'm wondering. Now,
look at the Mariners, the Asters, there's zero and zero

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right now.

Speaker 12 (02:27:31):
It is high for First. It's going to be a
run to the finish. So we can't forget about the Rangers.
They're four and a half and they can go on
a run.

Speaker 9 (02:27:39):
But my point to make is on June three, we
lost one of our best plays. He's missed forty nine games.
They've played at a thirty and nineteen trip without them,
how could.

Speaker 12 (02:27:54):
We expect them to keep that up?

Speaker 9 (02:27:58):
Far as I'm concerned, I'm gonna sit put them all
the way to the end.

Speaker 12 (02:28:01):
I think it's just going to be their final season.
Because you can take me too streaks that they've put.

Speaker 9 (02:28:06):
Together, the one with Pout Sucker and the one from
World and twenty four and compare with any one of
those four seasons they one one hundred teams.

Speaker 12 (02:28:17):
So I got one more thing to say.

Speaker 9 (02:28:21):
It looks like for it seems like Tyler Williams might
have a little Ryan anything.

Speaker 12 (02:28:28):
That's all I got. Guys, Thanks for letting me in
and I'm honored if you select this show.

Speaker 1 (02:28:32):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (02:28:33):
Tom, and let's Sean.

Speaker 4 (02:28:35):
Let's get to one more quick call and then we'll
get to break because we've got a couple of guys
that want to get Let's go to subs subes.

Speaker 5 (02:28:40):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (02:28:42):
Man?

Speaker 16 (02:28:42):
I thought I'll do missile every level. Like Man, I've
only got the call life four times in the last
few years i've been on.

Speaker 5 (02:28:47):
But well, maybe we should maybe we should increase that number.
Those are rookie numbers.

Speaker 1 (02:28:50):
Son, come on now.

Speaker 16 (02:28:52):
Well unfortunately, well fortunately, I'm a defense contractor and certain
parts of the country and I just happened to have
today off and I'm getting ready to fly home and
hopefully catch the game. But I want to give you
guys your follower real quick and then get to Dashro's sake,
because I get to listen to you guys on iHeart
Radio and Man Sean Triple Brian, y'all bring it. Brian,

(02:29:12):
I'll pit you up on Twitter and hopefully I can
talk to you about getting one of those Cobe seven discounts.

Speaker 1 (02:29:16):
But y'all have brought it and there's.

Speaker 16 (02:29:19):
People that aren't from Houston and listened to you and like, man,
your guys radio are strong, and I let him know, like,
hey man, this uh is a Sean Salisbury on seven
ninety man from Houston, like he's representing. So appreciate the
love and support and then push out out to my
Twitter friends. Ahx, Hobo and uh, Tiff and Josh. Appreciate
y'all support me while I've been away from home, way
home from home for three years now.

Speaker 1 (02:29:39):
So today do you make sure you make sure you
give your Twitter hell, make sure you I don't know
at Bob subs. Yeah, and Bob I got you on mine, right,
I think I do. Coreah yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen
that at the minute time. Yes, we talked to you
a lot of yeah. Yeah. I just want to make
sure because you've been away from home, man, you need
you got to have friends at support. So we're here

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glad to have you.

Speaker 16 (02:30:01):
The good thing I will say about this shop is
he allows me to buy a clothes and go to
away games. I go to a lot of away games.
But I want to say regarding the shrows Man, one
of the things I've noticed about them, and one thing
I will say about them was when they make trades,
especially when it comes to pitchers, their analytics department and
Josh Miller and then uh strongly before that, they have

(02:30:22):
a way of like being like Pitcher whispers, man, go
back and look at you look at Cold with the
Astros with the Yankees. More than okay, he's on up
Verlanders stronger. It's just like everybody that comes there pitch wise,
as you know, even in both paying like montro at
first no, but Montero twenty two season right, super super strong.

(02:30:42):
So I will say I'm gonna give co two. I'm
gonna just say kocause I want them Misprouss the name.
I'm gonna give him a shot because the way our
department is and the way the team culture is, uh, I.

Speaker 1 (02:30:52):
Think he's gonna do good.

Speaker 16 (02:30:53):
We just need the offense with runners and scoring positions
from innings three to seven to be a little bit stronger.
But also know two, you're missing a super star, so
on that aspect, man, I think will be okay. I
will point this out though, if you look at Toronto
like stars this year, I don't know what's going on
in that locker room. But Guerrero Springer, but shit, they
got rid of Vigio. Uh. It's just like Toronto a

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couple of years ago had this expectation of, oh yeah,
they're the up and cooming team, and now they're just
like a dead town dude. It's just like, I don't
know what's going on with the Blue Jays. But that's
why another reason why I think Kacucci, you'll be good
with us. And then real quick on the Textans before
I forget, I'm curious and I'm hoping that what I'm
seeing with Hutchinson, they seemed like the Texans are trying
to get that Debo Rode going, man, and I'm hoping

(02:31:38):
he's the receiver to do it because he has the
skill set and I'm excited for them. And I know
it's just one game yesterday, but he got a lot
of guit targets. Anyways, Hey Man, I love you guys.
Show ay, Brian, I'm gonna hit you up and yeah, man,
feels like it's somebod like covid s even gear, but
idress fresh like you brother? All right, love y'all, God blessed.

Speaker 4 (02:31:53):
Man, Hey Man, Safe travels Bobby, appreciate you calling, man.
So let's get to break. Got two more guys want
to get in and uh yeah, yeah, good stuff. Travel
around the country defense contract. That's pretty dope, man.

Speaker 1 (02:32:06):
Yeah, I would imagine that's a grind.

Speaker 5 (02:32:08):
I can only imagine.

Speaker 4 (02:32:10):
And of course he's out around the country listening to
us on the free iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 5 (02:32:14):
Let's get to break and we'll end the show.

Speaker 4 (02:32:17):
One key for you, say Kakuchi tonight, that's next on
Sports Talk seven to eighty.

Speaker 2 (02:32:22):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety, home of the Rockets,
Astros and the best line up in Houston sports. Now
back to Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 8 (02:32:32):
I have two comments to make about the astro's injury
report from an injury situations. One is for Kyle Tucker
and one is for Lance mccollers. Kyle Tucker, he kind
of reminds me of Kawhi Leonards. I don't know if
that is a real comparison because it's for a different
sports and he's expecting probably next year at the hundred

(02:32:53):
first million dollar contract. And two things that reminds me.
Number One, Kyle Tucker has never been a good playoff performer.
If you look at his history for the last several years,
he has always been like not good. It's probably bad
on the bad level when it comes to a playoff performance.
And now like it's been sixty days, he is not
in the field. So it kind of reminds me of

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as I said, like Kawhi Leonard and on the on
the other side, like remember the playoff game, Michael Jordan
played with one hundred and two dagy degree fever. So
I'm not sure if it is Astro's they're hiding some
injuries which is kind of bad, or is it something
that all goes to Kyle Tucker. So I am thinking
this kind of like it goes to a red flag
to teams if they're thinking of giving a k ND

(02:33:35):
four hundred million dollar contract to him. And secondly, I
took one talk about the Lance mcallers because he is
very talented but never on the field, and nobody talks
about him. I think like they should let's let him
go and bring him back. Is they really are fond
of him like Uncle Micha or something to help the team,
because he is happy to get twenty million dollars to

(02:33:56):
do the h BE commercials. So I'm going to hang
up and listen.

Speaker 5 (02:33:59):
Thank you, Neil. And final call of the show, Larry,
did I see you on TV the other night?

Speaker 7 (02:34:07):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (02:34:08):
Le, you know that was your boy doing may hey
may you know when you when when when they're looking
for you? May they tended this day. So yeah, that
was the boy just chopping it up. Man, oh TV,
look behind you, man, I want to get to some things, man,
and I know you can hear my voice.

Speaker 1 (02:34:24):
I'll tow up here.

Speaker 17 (02:34:27):
The party and that I've been doing this since I
got oh man, it's it's been epic, man. But on
the past rows the Kyle Tuck Ohio Mandry.

Speaker 5 (02:34:36):
That I'm unaware and we got some phone issues.

Speaker 1 (02:34:38):
Damn it.

Speaker 5 (02:34:41):
You can get that.

Speaker 1 (02:34:41):
I couldn't. That was just that was home was cutting
out like crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:34:44):
I try to save the best for last man.

Speaker 1 (02:34:46):
Yeah, I love Larry, this passion that that phone connection,
little bummer. But our previous caller, yeah, uh, you're gonna
get on the Kyle Tucker stuff, a little harsh on
the on the h TV lands color, the color stuff,
but you're gonna get those questions. I don't think I
mean load management. I don't think Kyle Tucker wants load management.

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But you're gonna get the questions, Okay, how long is
this gonna be? And with the big money, you will
get some that feel that way. I think Kyle Tucker
is a phenomenal player and I think he wants to play.
It's just an odd injury. To me, I'm not if
it's weird. I would have expected him back a long
time ago. But I'm not a doctor, and I sure
to tell them not the one who got hit in
the shin with you know, a found of baseball off.

(02:35:28):
But you are going to get people. You've seen it, Brian.
The naysayers or not even the naysayers. The people look
at it like, can you afford to do this? If
something like this is going to keep out and his
postseason performance needs to elevate. We've talked about that and
I think he knows that as well. Right, I mean,
Kyle Tucker in the postseason, there's another level to his
game got to get to. Right. It just is all right?

Speaker 4 (02:35:49):
And uh so me and Tripley have been discussing, Sean,
We've got the one key thing for you, say kakushiin
We're gonna get your thoughts, but uh Triple Y, let's
let's go ahead and get this. Uh, let's get this
rolling for you, say, kakuci tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:36:07):
Yeah, you come to.

Speaker 2 (02:36:12):
Strews burning desire.

Speaker 1 (02:36:16):
Why would you put that on Kokuchi? Yes, you want
the guy to pitch well and look what you've done.
You come.

Speaker 5 (02:36:31):
Astros.

Speaker 1 (02:36:33):
Yeah, that's so. That's the way you want to end
a show. One up with all the great stuff our
callers and listeners to You want to know it to them?

Speaker 5 (02:36:44):
We owe it to them.

Speaker 1 (02:36:45):
Yeah, you owe it to them to give them something better. Okay,
Well you don't want a song, you don't want to
blow orange fire? Yeah, I'd like that. What did you say,
trash as trash ass song? Kokuchi? Listen, listen, here's what
I say to you say. We all say yes, go

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through the one key, get ahead and the count. Yes,
that'll he get ahead and account throw strikes early. And
number two is don't listen to this song. Number three
is team come out of the shoot spot Kakuchie some
runs so we can free flow it early in his
rotation and let it rip.

Speaker 4 (02:37:27):
And when it all comes down to it, Suzi, Yeah,
take a one pitch at a time, brother, one.

Speaker 1 (02:37:34):
Pitch of the time. Uh, day by day day, how
we live? How we live in Rambo day by day.
There you go.

Speaker 5 (02:37:42):
We're living fast.

Speaker 1 (02:37:43):
Damn rights. Good luck to the astros and Kokuchi with
it with the pH Larry, Larry, keep that passion for Monday. Brother,
get that phone line worked out. We need to hear it.
Great stuff by all of our callers. Is always in
a great week. Thank you guys. Join your weekend. Sean,
I intend Fridays you too. Al Right, guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:38:02):
We'll talk to you Monday. That is Seawn Salisbury, Emmanuel
Elmore Tripoli. He is our producer. He makes it happen
every single day for us here on the show. I
am Brian Lilima. Thank you for listening. We're back Monday
morning at six am. Enjoy your weekend, do it safely.
If you're gonna enjoy some adult beverages, call yourself an uber.
Don't be stupid. Don't go anywhere though. Next up we'll

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stand over for the Chris Cordy coming up next on
Spurse Talk seven to eighty