Astros Lose To Rangers In Extra Innings, Jim Harbaugh Speaks On Cheating Scheme, NCAA Coaches Poll

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury, the usc true longtime friend,
Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
This is the Sewan Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh, good morning, Sewan, Good morning Triple E. You know,
Ryan Presley's not very good. Josh hater. I don't trust
him either. And they go into extra innings and they
put in Caleb Ferguson, the kid that got the trade deadline,
who has like an e r A over ten after

(00:44):
like the eighth inning, and.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
They loseg dog this Seaferg.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Seaferg My bad, my bad, big ferg ferg.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
You know, I just I watched every inning of that
aim last night, stay a little too late, watching them
losing extra innings, they struggle at the played offensively.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
I mean, it's just not a good watch right now.
So you know what we need to do. Call John Whittmeyer,
the mayor canceled the parade.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah. Didn't they strike out twelve times or something last night? Yeah?
And I know it was double digits the last I remember.
You know, Pete Leone had a little trouble, you know,
played last night he did? Didn't you went beat lyone? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:35):
What do you have?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Hadric yeah, with big o'bang Obon go on them. Yeah,
but you know, Dubon I think struck out a couple
of times. I mean everybody top of the lineup, you know,
al two Vy didn't. But they just, you know, three runs,
that's about what they've been averaging. And put a guy
in and a clutch home run after they got hit.

(01:57):
You know, an odd top of the inning when you
get hit twice to bring the go ahead run in
and then you give up the two run job at
the end. But at some point, I guess you were
going to see candeb Ferguson since you'd already used no
Brown for six innings, but a bray you and Presley
and Hater and.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
God forbid you use your closer for two innings.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, oh I know, And Hater went to talk about it.
He struck out three, you know, struck out three. So
why you can't bring him back out is is I've
never understood. It's like it's like a law, like when
it all all of a sudden, they just hit a wall.
They hit a wall. I know he threw, didn't he
throw like twenty five pitch?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Twenty six pitches?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, and he'd thrown a bunch of pitches. So I
get that, but I mean, who knows what if it's
a five pitch inning. I don't know, man, I guess
I get it. But his closer has been closing for
an inning forever, but every now and then, maybe you
need him for six outs, right, yeah? Maybe maybe maybe
you just do. But I also we also know what

(02:59):
are they're gonna say the twenty some pitches in. Don't
want to wear them out, get an even down to
stretch all those things. And if you got Ferguson on
the roster, what do you got them for? I guess
is thought process, but I think you know, make a pitch,
guy drives it and you end up losing the game
in a rivalry game at home, in an important game,
and with the dramatic ending, and the Rangers get the

(03:20):
first one.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
So now the Astros fall game and a half back
of the Al West, five back of the wild card.
And let's see the era I was referring to.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Caleb Ferguson has a career ERA of one point eight
three in the sixth inning. Through the innings four through six,
it's one point nine to six, seven to between seven
and nine it's almost twelve. It's eleven. It's eleven point five.

(03:58):
Excuse me, it's eleven point five to seven this year here.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Betcham, early in non leverage situations is what you're saying
to me.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
I mean, they could be, uh, somewhat leverage. But I
mean you knew the analytics when you went and traded
for him, right, was Taylor Scott not available?

Speaker 5 (04:16):
I mean I'm not questioning.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'm not questioning for the manager.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah you are.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's okay too, Yeah you are. Yeah, well he is
exactly what we're doing. We're questioning why the I mean,
if you're questioning the trade decision, why he was thrown in.
He was a throw in, make no mistake about him.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, just we need an arm.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, they don't. For by anybody's as well. We're
judging the trade for that that that was a throw in. Yeah,
it's making I mean they need to they want to
obviously use the arm. I mean the guy shows up
and he's in a leverage situation right off the bat.
I mean a couple of days in, right, So, but
that is that the mare? When I say a couple
of days he against the Rangers early on, I mean

(04:55):
with what they had him for a week, you know whatever,
it's been so less than a week, so with that,
But it make no mistake, this was all about Kokuchi
on their side of it. But if you're questioning why,
the question of why didn't Joe keep Hater in or
can he not go? Or is twenty six pitches too much?
Or are we just against the rules of baseball to

(05:16):
allow your closer to go get one or two more outs?
Maybe does he have a five out or in him?
Or then the other side is your guy who's been
quite frankly should have been an All Star too or
could have been in Taylor Scott, could you not use
him in that role? Or so I get it. I
guess you say, well, we got this guy, let's go
see if he can give us some magic in his
first That's a hard situation to be in against a

(05:38):
team that can hit at home in the tenth and
they didn't take care of their business. But I get
what you're saying. But yeah, you're allowed to question it,
doesn't it's not personal. You're allowed to question because you
ain't the only one who's going to question the decision
what he did last night, And you were always going
to question why we're so specialized that somebody can't give

(05:58):
you ten more pitches baffling. I, well, you'd lose him
for a week. Why why? But that's just that's where
we are, and baseball wise, it's not changing, and we're
going back to what we know.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
You know, and I get it. Twenty six pitches for
your closer. You don't want to go, you don't want
to push it back out there, Okay, I get the
pitch counted.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, the other guy's got to get some outs. That's
just the way you're You can't give up a home run.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
And also you can't go one for nine with runners
in scoring position. You can't leave eleven men on base.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
And strikeout twelve times.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Struck out twelve times.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, as a team twelve you had two guys that
had the hatcher Jake Myers oh for three, three strikeouts,
paedro leone oh for four, three strikeouts. Yeah, two strikeouts
for Dubon Dubont. Between Dubon and Jake Myers, they are
both awful lately. Jake Myers averag dropped all the way
down to two thirty. His on base percentage isn't even

(06:50):
three hundred, so all this talk about Jake Myers, Jake Myers,
Jake Myers, Jake Myers has been putrid, as.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Of La says, Jake Myers has flashes a brilliant's good
defensive player, and I'll surprise you once in a while
with a run with his bat. That's about it.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
I'm just so frustrated with this this morning.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
He's a good guy to have on your team. If
you're looking for dominant play in center field at the
plate on a regular basis, you're not getting it, Okay.
From that. From from that, it's not to me. He's
going to be a guy. He's going to be a guy.
You probably always says, well, should we replace him or
but he just does He's going to do enough to
make and he's done some good things this year. Yeah,
but you're right. The frustration and going south when we

(07:31):
need everybody going north at.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
This time, I think I think the most Yeah, I
think the.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Most frustrating part for me, and I'm gonna put my
fan hat on real quick, is the fact that they
busted their ass to get back to five hundred, climb
back into the Al West Race. You take the lead
in the division, and then over the last I don't know.
Two weeks your offense and at bats have been awful

(07:58):
and you strike out twelve times as a team last night.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, what what mentally? What mentally goes into the tail spin?
Is it physical or are you really I mean, are
you that tired? Or honestly, I'm under the belief that
what happens when you get down. That's why I went
in early is important getting out jumping out of the
gates early. And I know because it's not how you start,
it's how you finish. Well. If you start so poorly,

(08:24):
then no matter how you finish, you can't close out.
Then it did then you just said, well if you
just give me five extra games at the front and
then we'd be okay. At the back end. You got
to play solid baseball. The good teams consistently through and
can't have long bouts of inconsistency and losing streaks that
type of stuff. They don't want a lot of valleys

(08:44):
when you're doing it. But I think there's also going
to be part that we may see is that when
you get so far down early, you got to chase
you're in, Like, oh my gosh, So the the constant
grind levels which is fine, but there every now and
then you got quit grinding, to take a few time
days off from grinding. I don't mean not play, but
just to where your mind and your team like, okay,

(09:07):
here we are, like when they finally got the first place,
like okay, here we are. Look what we had to do.
But to get there when you fall off early seen
in football, teams too just don't happen to somehow late
kick and some don't. But you're two and four coming
out of the first month and a half of the season,
it's like, do you know what kind of football you
got to play? So then? And it's good for some teams,
and some teams can't handle it, that are on edge

(09:27):
the whole time, and then find a way to roll
off eight in a row and get themselves in the
playoffs and roll right through it with the confidence. But
when you expend a lot of energy chasing, when you
finally chase, you take a deep breath and say, damn, okay,
we got here, when you really didn't get there. The
task you know you're halfway through, the task at hand
is to get there when it's all said and done

(09:47):
and when the division and I know the astross know this,
but there's got to be a sense of exhaustion. Think
about it in your life. What's easier preparing for a
test for three months and then the night before just
kind of getting over your notes and walking in or
not studying for a whole semester and being behind, and
then all of a sudden, with the day left, you
got to study for twenty four straight hours. Where is
your where's your mental emotional exhaustion? When you walk out

(10:10):
of that test?

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You know where You're done?

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Fan?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
You need like three days of sleep. We've all done.
We've every single one of us has done it.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
To say, study one of my Polycide classes in college,
I did. I pulled an all nighter to study for
the final year.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Right, and then then then you put it then when
you come out of that test like I'm done, yeah
right now? So why can't that apply to this. I'm
not saying it will, but there's going to be part
of that that when you finally get there, and the
astros are veteran enough to stave off the oh the
we got to first place, so we made it. They
know that the task. But there's still something to be

(10:47):
said about expending yourself the task if you jump out
to a ten game lead and you go through a
losing streak and you're still in first place, like the Marriga,
you went through a losing streak and get your ass
handed to you and you're still now in first place.
You know, you went three years. So the Astros are
going to have to the emotional part and metal part
of chasing somebody down, which you don't want to do

(11:08):
is get down to five or six again and then
have to be in that second half chase. But it happens.
But you'd prefer, you know, mentally and emotionally, which would
help physically not to have to run through these I
gotta win fifteen out of seventeen to be above five
hundred and be, you know, a game out of first
place that can take its toll. We'll see if it
does with the Astros.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Let's hear from the manager Joe as Spot if we
got some audio from postgame last night. Tough loss for
the Astros, some might say the worst of the season.
We'll keep discussing it. Next right here on Sports Talk
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Speaker 3 (13:04):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues. It could be worse.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's right. At least you're not them.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
It could be it could be worse.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
How do you think the fan base feels this morning, Sean,
The Astros, not the White So White.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Sox, no Astros fan base. I would say deeply. I
think there's probably a pissed off notion of how it
happened at the end pitching wise, but I think it's
probably a major disappointment and almost to the point of
oh that we'll feel that one in the end. So

(13:41):
a little bit of anger first losing to the Rangers
rivalry game picture you're acquired. I'm sure there was a
litany of things we could go through that, but none
of them are we're feeling good about last night. Let's
put it that way.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well, I did a simple search on Twitter this morning.
I just typed in Joe Aspota, go.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Ahead, that's where they're going to be their most anger.
I was going to say, Survey says, yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
First tweet that comes up, Joe Spot and Dana Brown
need to be fired. Second one to come up, Joe A.
Spot is the worst manager in baseball. Third one, Joe A.
Spot is the weakest manager in Astro's history.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
And then this is the last one.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Joe Spotta has no feel for managing during the game.
He may do everything else right, relationships, listening, setting it
a good example, but his decision making during games is baffling. Okay, well,
there's some tweets from Astros Twitter. Uh not happy with
manager Joe Aspota.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
He the one you got to make those hard decisions
in the end, and when they don't work out, that's
that that's what you get out of it. I would
say that Joe spot has had a good start to
his career. For the most part when I say it
started not coming out of the shoot. They weren't very good,
but the way you could judge and to say, well,
they've done some good things and got better. And one

(15:09):
thing he's one thing you got to you got to
give him credit for, is he stays he's never changed
the way he's approached it, good or bad. He's he's
been the same personality all year, which players are looking
for consistency from their head coach and protection. They just
are their manager or their quarterback coach, their head coach
in the NFL all that. But I can say tell

(15:30):
you this, I don't think it's unfair. I think it's fair.
I think I do think it's unfair to say he's
the worst manager of all time fire him today. I
think that's I think that's probably a bit premature, and
I think it's a little uh quite, you know, And
I'm being facetious, a little hyperbolic to it's all his
faulty sucks. He's the worst. I mean, I understand the frustration,

(15:53):
but the perspective of it is you're going to make
decisions that aren't the right decision, but he ended up
being the right I mean, they're not the right decision
at the time you end up winning, Like, we'll shake
your head scratching, how'd that work? And then a one
seventy five hitter who pinch HiT's going to get a
base hit. Most of the time that doesn't usually become
the case. And just like last night, you're going to
make a decision you thought, okay, hater gave us twenty

(16:14):
six pitches, we can get through this, and it didn't work,
and so you're going to take the brunt of it,
and rightfully so. But I don't think it's unfair to
criticize throughout the season some of his managerial decisions. I
don't know. I think it's okay to criticize that in
any ballpark you're in. So and as a rookie manager,
Joe spot has been far from horres. I mean, he

(16:36):
hasn't been horrific by any stretch, but he's also been
far from perfect. And the fact of the matter is,
at times I think we expect that and because where
the Astros, and this is the way they win, and
we're Houston fans. But I don't think it's unfair to
criticize him for some of the in game decisions. And
last night's decision to who we pitched. I don't think
that's it's not unfair. I'm not firing him over the decision.

(17:01):
You just can't make ten of those type of decisions.
And then the other side is that he has the communication,
all the stuff we hear all the time, and keeping
his team on track when they were getting their ass
handed to him and getting him back in it. He's
made some really good decisions. That's part of this position.
You make good, bad decisions, but you win. Eventually you're
going to keep your job. You know they overcome it.

(17:22):
You make good decisions at times that you seem like
the right decision at the time, and you lose do
a bunch of that and miss the playoffs two years
in a row, they'll find a new manager. So the
way it is so he's there's no a grade for him,
but there I don't think it's a D minus grade either,
And I think that he's growing into his position as well.
And unfortunately, I like football, where you get a week

(17:44):
in between the practice and go through it every single day.
You got to put your ass on the line in
baseball when it comes to every decision, whether it's against
Oakland on a nighttime game in the middle of the
season nobody's watching, or a game last night that's a
rivalry game in Island ten and everybody's watching. So I ran,
I don't know how you feel about that, but I thought,
I mean, I think Joe Spott has had good moments.

(18:05):
I think Joe spottus had a bunch of moments where
he's just done his thing and it's worked for them.
And I think he said some moments where it's like
why is he the manager? And I would imagine that
some last night are wondering why the pitching decision? And
that's fair for them to ask the question.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
You know, I guess where I lie with this loss
is the biggest thing that sticks out to me is
runners in scoring position. You were one for nine, you
struck out twelve times, and you left eleven men on base.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
But then also that's groundhog Day with that. Yes, happens
all the time, same thing all the time right now.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, But then also Taylor Scott did not pitch yesterday.
He was available. He's been one of your best relief pitchers,
especially in xuratings. He hasn't given up a run in
the extra innings this season.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
He should have pitched. That's why I agree with the decision. Well,
what most people cruss Dusty Baker for in his.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Career, dude pitching, the pitching decisions.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
In game pitching. He got hammered for it throughout his career.
He's a Hall of Famer and he's done some great things.
But whenever you spoke of it, the first thing when
you said, okay, what's the criticism, don't handle the pitching
staff for well, that was the criticism most of his
career came here. You get it, help, you got rents
from all those things, and things change around and you
win World Series and dominate and all those things. Okay,

(19:24):
I get it, But that is the energy for a
manager when he makes a bad pitching decision is through
the roof, and it's not good usually. And Joe spot
is getting a taste to see what it's like as
the manager, not the bench coach, who nobody's mad at
on decisions like this, who right now? Not a soul's
talking about the bench coach's decision, right Yeah, last night

(19:46):
they're talking about Joe Spott's decision. That's part and parcel
to being the manager. Man, you've got to deal with
the pressure, just like you do anybody else, and just
like anybody else does, and you can't run from it.
I'm sure he'll have some explanation, or did he last night?
As the white tayto Scott didn't pitch.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I didn't see anything about him talking about Taylor Scott
or why fergus or why Ferguson, But I think he
alluded to a slump of some sort and triple he's
got that. He's cutting that audio up for us, so
we'll have it.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
You're you're on the roster, when you're getting paid. It's
your job to get people out right, and that's what
I call on you. And the other side of it
is that though it's also the manager's job to put
people in a position that match either of their performance
the trust it can't be. Last night was a hope decision,
not a decision of this is our best option. Last

(20:39):
night was I hope Ferguson has the same you know,
the kind of with Kakouchie starting man. He came in
and did his thing. Yeah you know that's and last
night you put him in a high leverage situation and
it didn't happen. So last night was a hope move.
And when you're working on Hope, we need it, we
all need help. But when you're working on Hope making

(21:01):
your decisions to decide a game, it's it's usually not
a good thing. And it looked to me like it
was a Hope decision, especially if Scott was available.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yeah, and all your best Yeah. And also on the
flip side of that too, hitters have to be better.
They have to execute, There's no question.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's why I said, we talked about a guy with
the bass, and you got to you got to get
people across you. You can't leave runner stranded. They're not
winning a World Series. Leaving nine to ten runners stranded.
You're just not not for that. They won't make the playoffs.
If this continues the way they're leaving them on and
scoring three runs a game, they will miss the playoffs
because right right now you're in a major chase mode
in the wild card and it's not gonna be easy

(21:37):
to win the division. So you leave runners on. It's
not just a pitcher not being able to push people across.
The hitting has been semi putrid when it comes to
scoring runs. Last what fifteen twenty days whatever, it's been
and not good.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Not good and neither is Ryan Presley. What is going
on with Ryan Presley. We'll discuss that next and we'll
also got some Joe a spot of audio after the
loss last night, so we'll go through that as well
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number to join us Talk to Felipe.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Real quick, Brian, Yes, Felippe, hang on to get the Felipe,
I'll ask you afterwards. Okay, thinking about it during the break.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Felipe, good morning, Good.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Morning fellas well. First things, first, man, and the White
Sox suck like.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
That's they're not good.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
That is bad man. Yeah, I would hate to be
a like that's a White Sox fan, period. And I
think all of Chicago sports are pretty much doing bad
right now. So it sucks for that city. Two people.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
For people to say that Spota this is a spotter's loss.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's I don't know what they were watching. I don't
put this on the spot up. Yeah, he doesn't have the.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
Greatest manager, like greatest decisions during the game. But an
example of him, like blaming it on him is last
weekend when Hunter.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Brown gave up that to run home run.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Even though Hunter Brown was pitching, he was gassed.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
He was one hundred and something pitches in the fifth
inning and he gave up a two home run to
run home run. And I was at the game and
I can visibly see see Hunter Brown was just gassed
out but he couldn't go no more and the spot
left him in too long. That's one thing, But this
is on the team. This is on the players. You
have guys running runner to the score position, you have

(25:02):
one in the tenth inning, while two days on second
Bragman pops up flies out into the outfield.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Then you have bases loaded and you get a strikeout.

Speaker 7 (25:12):
And I said, I just turned it off, because like
we're not winning this game at all, even though we're
a three to two. We can just win by one run,
especially against the Rangers because you know them.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean, this is like a heated rivalry. He doesn't
show it, but we all know it.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
And the loss hurts a lot more when we lose
to the Rangers because there are in state rivals. They
knocked us out last year. It's heated. It's like just
an overall just crappy loss. The players need to do
something like even if the bases are loaded, there's one out,
I don't care if you sackfly that's better than striking out.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Put the ball in play and something can happen.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
But also I think this is karma because I don't
think that ball really hit gyaner Diez, or it probably did,
but the ball was fine, Like the ball is always
gonna tell the truth, you know, And I think that's
just karma coming back to us.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I hate to say it, like.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
That ball never and I don't think it hit, does man,
it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
So and I thought that I saw the replay. I
thought it initially did, but when the replay came up,
like that thing did not hit all.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, after replay it did not.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
So it's just the players needed to just have a
team meeting or something.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Somebody needs to throw a cooler or.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
Flip a table or something and say they gotta, you know,
come up, like just come to Jesus and say, man,
we got.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
To do something, Especially against the Rangers.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
It hurts a lot more.

Speaker 7 (26:27):
It could be any other team, but when it's the Rangers,
it's just I couldn't sleep in it.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I had nightmares.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
So I just hope they can come through and do something.
I mean, like you said that. You guys said that
they fought all year and they've came back to five
hundred and they just can't just give up.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Now. They got to keep going.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
You know, we gotta make the I want to want
them to make the playoffs, and I.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Think we all do.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
But we can't get complacent on teams either, because I'm
pretty sure we all thought we're gonna sweep the Rays,
and look at us, we lost a series, especially with Pittsburgh.
We thought we were gonna at least come over with
two wins, and we lost that series as well. So
if these guys can stop being, you know, just so
giddy and trying to make something happen with the with
the home run, simple small ball or base hits gets it.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Going with two doubles gets you a run. Three singles
gets you a run, you know. So it's it's not
that I mean hard to hit a ball.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
I'm not gonna say I'm the best I've played baseball,
but these guys are a professional level, so I can't
speak for them, but.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Man, they have to do something. Just put the ball
and play. A strikeout is not the.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
Way to go, and these guys got to do something
about it. But appreciate you taking my call. Guys, you
have a great day us.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Well, Felipe, I appreciate it. What's that question you got, Well.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
First, just in into what replying to what Felipe said,
You're never gonna get an argument out of me when
you give put accountability on players. Well, the decision may
not have been the right decision, you know, at the
top at the bottom half of that inning to you
know who you use, which we'll discuss and we have discussed.
But you got to get people out. You gotta defend,
you gotta you know, you got to catch the baseball.

(27:59):
You gotta put the ball in play, and you got
to give yourself a chance. And you're not going to
do it when when you come to the plate and
you're one of nine or one of ten with runners
to scoring position becomes a problem. There's no question. So
I get there is no argument when it comes to
players taking accountability for what they got to do. That
that's why they get paid. In Joe A. Spott's case,
his job is to put his players in the best

(28:19):
position to succeed. Some will argue, if that was the
case last night, he traded for a guy and they
gave him leverage situation and it didn't work, But I
never when it comes to execution of it, well, question decisions,
but the execution of it is on the player, period.
So you've got to you know, you're not gonna you're
not gonna sniff the playoffs if you can't get score

(28:40):
more than three runs and get runners across the plate
against good teams or teams that are at least on
the rise and they know how to well managed, like
the Texas Rangers are with Boath. So my question to
you was going to be is you were talking about
the last break about why not use Taylor Scott and
I get to thinking, Okay, you've used him a lot.
He's had a first half that was all star worthy.

(29:03):
Any thoughts to the I don't want to say doghouse,
wrong way to say it. Concern about his velocity the
last two times he's been out there, and that you
couldn't run him out there because of it. You were
a little nervous try something new, that his velocity is down,
and all of a sudden you shriek a little bit,
like why he's been so good so long? But hasn't

(29:24):
you know? This is he's getting more work than he's
ever got. His velocity's last two appearances was down. Is
it alarming enough for you to say not? Not in
this situation where I put him out there?

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I mean, I'm sure I'm sure that was taken into
account Inning's usage because he's pitched a lot, but he's
been so damn good an any you know.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
What, why else? Why else wouldn't you use him.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
I'm sure that.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
If he's not hurt, why else wouldn't you use him?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I'm sure what was the I mean, I'm the lefty
on left. He had to be taken into account as well.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
I'm just trying to think of of repos let me
go back and look, I've got the play by place.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
So you know, no, just the question, the reason why,
just it's kind of general out there. I mean, we're
looking for reasons as to why could that have been
a part of the conversation tired we talk about over
you know, over usage. We're concerned about a handful of pictures,
whether it's bullpen and or bullpen usage and starting pitching,

(30:25):
you know, their innings, threshold, reaching places they've never reached.
And then with that, he's saying, we're gonna need this
guy down to stretch. Hopefully something can get it out
for us or two and get us out. The velocity
is down. So is there something for us to be
concerned about the last what two or three times out?
I think it was two worth asking, I guess. And

(30:48):
if that's alarming and enough not to put him in
last night, then I guess we all should be a
little concerned. If that's the case, if that was any
part of the reason, But so velocity stays down, then
you've still got to be a concern.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
So basically, Ferguson came in to face Grossman. Grossman's a
switch hitter. Then he faces Jonaheim switch hitter, and then
Josh Smith's lefty. So there's the lefty on lefty. Also,
you're facing two switch hitters. I mean, I don't know, man,
I'm just gonna I would assume. I'm assuming again that

(31:22):
you are keeping in mind that a lot of these
bullpen guys have thrown a lot this year, and the
usage is a concern. Any streshold is a concern, and
you and at the end of the day, you got
Caleb Ferguson at the deadline. He's got a pitch and
he's got to execute, and he just didn't do it.
Ninety four at the top the top of the zone

(31:42):
got hit out for a walk off bomb yesterday. I mean,
it is what it is. So I'm just trying to
think of reasons why they have.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
The players got through. We've heard Dana Brown say a
million times on our show. Yeah, we got to get
players to execute pitches, throw where they want, to throw it.
Sometimes guys hit it. Even when you do where you
want to throw it, they just either run into one
or good hitters keep themselves alive. They hit your pitch
and their pitch. The really good hitters the way Aaron
Judges hit this year, you could throw it up to

(32:12):
your mom's fifteen rows up and he'd hit it. Okay,
So you run into those. Smith ain't judge. I'm not
judging him, mister Smith, but he ain't judge. But point
is he got a pitch he could drive and the execution.
But there there's got to be something to innings and
analytics for the metrics that say velocity down concerned At
least it's worth considering, and especially since you got fifty

(32:35):
plus games or so to.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Go, seven one, three, two five, seven ninety is the
number to join. We'll keep talking about this Astros loss.
What did Joe spot I have to say about the
strikeouts that the Astros had? Offensively they add twelve of them.
We'll discuss an next on sports Stalk.

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Speaker 5 (34:17):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Good back at it, John,
How are we doing?

Speaker 6 (34:24):
Hey, guys?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
Hey.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
The uh real tragedy of all this is the really
good pitching performances that have been wasted. Uh, you know,
it was another really good pitching performance by Hunter Brown
last night. Arrag Getty. You know I called in about
that yesterday. Yeah, you know, you just giving them five
runs and five outings and two of those were shutouts.

(34:49):
That's what's really distressing, is uh, you know, the pictures
have been coming through and they've been getting zero help
from the hitting and the astro shouldn't have been in
that position, you know, I don't question a spot. I
don't question you know, whether the right reliever was there.
We should have never been in that position. I mean,
we had bases low we left eleven men on base,
and you know that's where the problem is. The pitching's

(35:13):
been there and we're wasting Like really, this is the
time you got to step up, and they're not doing it.
And I'm talking about the hitting. The pitching's been there,
and that's what has me really distressed about this whole thing.
And it's just it's just a tough watch right now.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, there's no question about it. John, We appreciate the
call as always.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
You bet you yep. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Hunter Brown last night sean six innings, three hits, one
urn run, two walks, four k's ninety seven pitches. I
mean he's been pitching his ass off. His ERA is
now below four when at one point it was at
like a sixteen.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's been phenomenal. There's no question he has been. Like
I said, I'm not sure. I don't trust him as
much as anybody on the staff, be honest with you,
to give us a good performance, give you six innings.
I mean, he's but baseball's too hard and ask them
to sustain these good pitching performance and continue to waste
them up. It can become an issue. And I know

(36:10):
the cyclical part of it pitching will kerry for a while. Hitting.
I understand that what you're trying to find is the
pitching and the hitting and playing your defense. That there's
there's less gaps in the in the between the good
and the bad. That we're closer together, meaning you don't
go through a lot of losing streaks. Winning streaks will
be nice, but works closer together where it doesn't fester long.

(36:31):
And it hasn't been a lot over the season. It
was during their streak of winning in June and July.
Favorable schedule as well for the most part, but they
they haven't done a great job all year long of
applying when everything's you know, there's times you watch Philly
this year at times and they've done it a lot

(36:52):
where you're pitching and hitting have matched where it's been
pretty dominant regularly. You know what I'm saying to where
there's not a long time not saying it's like football, Well,
the offense has been carrying the defense for eight weeks,
or the defense been carrying the offense for eight weeks.
Let's go offense before there's starts to be a crack
in the foundation, Go do your job. And I think
right now we're seeing sign not in their clubhouse, but

(37:15):
from us saying, hey man, we're wasting these pitching performances.
You got to hit better. So you don't want the
line in between two. You'd like to muddy it where
they bring them close together with the pitching and the hitting,
or doing their thing on the same night more regularly,
is the point. But John's right, and we've said it.
The pitching performances have been stellar. The question is one

(37:37):
of the bats going to get back to matching because
you can't continue to score at the pace they're scoring
at and leave runners in scoring position and on base
and expect that you're gonna win a division. It just
can't do it.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Here is a manager, Joe Aspada. He spoke last night
about not getting the big hit and end the strikeouts.

Speaker 10 (38:02):
Yeah, we we had, We had some opportunities there. You know,
we scraped a couple of runs there. Look there at
the end like it was going to be enough. But yeah,
we you know, trying to trying to running through it.
You know we need uh, we need to we need
we need a big hit and we can get it tonight.
You know what lineups going through stretches where stuff like
that happens, and we're going through that stretch where which

(38:26):
is not getting the big hit, We're not getting the
solid contact when we need to.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
That's a manager, Joe spota, just not getting the big hit,
striking out too much.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
That's good bandage your talk when you lose a game, Yeah,
isn't it? Thanks Joe, Hopefully. Like I said, if you're
looking for, if you're looking for, you're looking at the
motivational quote, bastard speech for the manager, and ain't from
the third basement. Thanks Joe, you ain't get it for
me to one of those guys, Yeah, hey, we got
to execute better.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, no kidding, we're just not getting the big hit.
Oh you don't.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, I guess I could have seen that on the
one for ten showing on the low TV screen, but yeah, no,
that's but it's that's that's the over the they prepare,
the speech becomes you got your losing speech, you're winning speech,
and then you're once in a while got to go
off the rails a little bit just to let people know.

(39:22):
That's just that's manager stuff, that's head coach stuff. Every
now and then you'll get a melt down. But Joe's
yeaed and mellow. He has a melted up or down.
It's everything he's it's just been. He's been steady, which
can be a really good thing. But when you lose,
nobody wants to hear it. They want kicking and screaming.
When you win, we love steady. So listen is is

(39:44):
I don't know if you want to call it his gamble.
His decision last night did not work. But it's not
just him. Somebody you got a ball in your hand,
you get you picking up a check this week, somebody
got a direct deposit your money. That ain't Joe throwing
a ball where I got home ers, and that's Joe.
Spot is fault unless the guy's arm was falling off
and you use the wrong guy, which is his decision
to make at the time. Fella was a good one.
Maybe he wouldn't do it over that way again. And

(40:06):
no Taylor Scott, but maybe velocity being down his last
two had them concerned in that situation as well, which
means there's a lot of ifs. And I don't like
a lot of ifs on good ball clubs. A lot
of ifs last night.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
I just you know, like like.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I don't know, man, I you know, at some point
I would just I want a manager or somebody on
the team to be like, look, man, we suck right now.
We got to figure it out. We are not good offensively.
We have got to figure it out. We got to
be better. Something like that.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
And when your players know what kind of guy you are,
you can get you can say those things because they
don't think you're throwing him under the bus. And you
can include yourself in it if you're going through it.
But right now we are unproductive and we got to
play better. Where yeah, we suck. I don't think it's
like when we talk that they and that how we
all talk when you're going through it, man, come on,
we got to pick this up. I think it's okay

(40:58):
to do that. I do, as long as your players
know where you stand. And I think these players know
where they stand every now and then. It may take
a chair to be tossed or a table to be turned,
there's no doubt. I don't mean literally, be get my point. Yeah,
And it's okay to say you suck when you suck, right,
just as long as you don't let it fester. And
that's not becoming the habit of a team. But every
now and then the shock value of that reaches far
deeper than you think it would, and players respond. I

(41:22):
can't stand players only meetings. I'd rather have a manager
let you know, dress you down a little bit without
specifically calling out names to kind of get your attention.
And then everybody everybody knows who they are right now,
I mean why they're you know what I'm saying, Brian,
You don't have to make it personal. Everybody knows when
you're speaking who you're speaking to in certain situations. Now

(41:43):
go get the gig done. But I don't think there's
a problem with with the your manager letting you know,
as long as it's respectful. Every now and then, it's
needed for us far more than a player's only meeting.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I can tell you that heard Maldi's available to run
a players on.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
The meeting, Well call him up, man, but blow up
slide into his d MS. I mean you've done You've
done that before, you slid into people's DMS. Haven't you
ever slid into a d M?

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Not really, No, that's never in your life. No, no, no, no,
it's just you've never fan boys.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
If you've never fan no.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
What I've never slid into a professional Athletes DM male female.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, you fan boy it into a d M. Yeah
it's not. It wasn't say it wasn't a zoid. Man.
I could see you slide into Zoid's DM. Single ifever
you're single. But when you slide into it, when you're
fan boyd into a d M, don't you got to
watch yourself. We got to check you. Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, I just I fanboy DM. I slid in Hey,
what's up?

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Man?

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Hey? I slid into Fergy Freddie Freeman.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Hey, man, I got a couple of balls you want
to sign?

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Pause? Yeah, I was gonna say, I know we're probably
donna slide in the dms and side and balls.

Speaker 11 (43:03):
Not.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Let's get Let's get to the seven o'clock hour, seven
one three, two, one two five, seven ninety. The phone
lines are lighting up this morning. Not a good loss
last night, not a good game. The offense was awful.
Let's talk about it next.

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Speaker 1 (43:52):
Okay, let's do this.

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Speaker 1 (44:08):
We're here, dude, we're simpatico.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I was thinking last night because you have two hours
earlier from where you guys are. So oh you are? Yeah, Oh,
just in case you didn't know, Oh I don't know
you're out at the time clock. Yeah, well yes, obviously
my presence is felt. That's a good thing. Good feel
me in the studio with you is the first song
cade of my mind on that home runer is It's
gone for good and good and gold.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
That's Chris Cagle. Yeah. What what's worse? The walk off
home run or Chas McCormick's attempts at throwing home the
walk off Chas McCormick at damn water gun he's got
out there is just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Man, that between him and.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Jake Myers, their arms just come on.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
You ever see the guy? Dude? Have you ever been
to a restaurant where they take the tenfoil and wrap
it into like a bird or a turn here, so
you know they do the fun place of those people
that are talented, you're to go stuff. They wrapped it
and then that it comes a like a turkey. I
feel like with McCormick's arm that you know how kids

(45:14):
will like make paper you said, pop gonna like make
something paper within class paper machees. Huh, And I'm thinking
that's his arm, dude, I can just till. I mean,
it's like it's a paper mache there's no cannon, dude,
I mean there's no there and there ain't no air
pump in that damn j O C O two. Okay,

(45:35):
I mean I got news for you now. Tucker's mechanics,
you know, straight over the top throwing it. I'm not
sure the combined speed between McCormick and Meyer's arm gets
to fifty. Hey, I don't remember working on an eight hopper,
but up the line, like not being avid, I'm not
being bed, but a two hundred yard throw that bounces

(45:57):
seven times is probably not a hose, just a hunch.
I know, I don't it's kind of we're doing it
out of fun. But I don't think either. One of
their strengths is hey man, let's get this kind of
an All Star game throwing contest. Yeah that's that. That's
not that's not what they we're not putting about there.
We have a defensive replacement late because he's got to

(46:19):
because he's got a great arm. Ain't ever been said
about mccormicker buyers professional.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
I'll tell you what though. They had to really badass
diving catches. But they're no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I'm not talking about their defensive acumen. They can play
the good Oh yeah, but I know, is there any
doubt and you've got to slide them in, you know,
like you doing some fanboy DM so I but you're right. No, defensively, no,
no question. But what I'm saying is there there's one

(46:51):
tool missing in the five tool player box. For that.
We know that they ain't an arm but they can
make plays. So but yeah, man, I just it's called
up a good and is good and gone. You gotta
shed a little light. I would say it's a tougher watch,
not giving up the walk off, watching chasm outfield. There's

(47:13):
a new movie coming out called Arms in the Outfield.
Starring a couple of cats here. No, but they do
play good defense, just not not their biggest strength. But yeah,
tough one to lose. Last Okay, what we canady say? Sean?
I got to ask you because we were both give.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Oh no, no, I asked you. Yeah, yeah, my was
gonna be. What's worse? Is it the McCormick throw or
the walk off?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Oh? There you go?

Speaker 5 (47:34):
I mean, my.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
God, the walk off hurts deeper. The McCormick throws funner
to talk about.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Yeah, yeah, and I guess that's that brings some humor
to this awful loss last night.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Give me, give me, yeah, give me yeah, listen, what
are we gonna do? You know, we're gonna bitch it
out and by tomorrow tonight's came to be back into it.
But let a rip man. Bitch away we all do
while we lost. But give me it gets gone for good.
And give you real quick. The ball was just.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Hit Chas McCormack coming up to throw. Oh my gosh,
where's that throw going? That's not even close to the plate.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Wat give me Chris Cagle, my bad.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
I thought it's gone the rest of them, no.

Speaker 12 (48:17):
Gone, live it is.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I'm trying to say, I'd like to We're gonna get
all the pitching. We're all the bitching, playing out over
a tough loss and trying to smile about sing it
out to be happy, over right, And then would you
say it's gone for the rest of your dog on life,
because it is.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
It's gone.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
So you gotta get rid of the rear of your mirror. Man,
it's gone. Oh man, it's it's gone. Literally, and figured
if he is gone, So it's going good.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Seven one three, two one two five seven, Steve, welcome in.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Thank good morning, guys.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Uh, we've been better, Steve, but we're here, baby.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (48:59):
Well, you know, it's it's sad because you know, for
the last two to three weeks this pitching has been unbelievable, yep.
And with the pet with the the way we are
hitting the ball, the lack of and wasting these outings
and wasting these arms.

Speaker 14 (49:17):
You know, I I don't.

Speaker 13 (49:19):
Understand and and I can't understand. You know, if if
you're going to strike out on a competitive pitch, I
have no problem with that. If you're going to let
a ball go down the middle twice, uh, and Andy
one at bat and you just stand there and then
the next one is in the dirt and you swing
at it.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
I don't understand that either.

Speaker 13 (49:43):
I I don't think that the hitting coach is probably
going to be around much longer if this continues. But
there's gonna have to be blamed somewhere. You can't get
rid of the players, obviously, so the only only other
thing you can do is get rid of the hit coach.
And it's it's going to be a sad day when
they do, because these guys have got to take responsibility

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for what they're doing. I mean, it looks absolutely ridiculous
when you when alt tu, they goes.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
M And I don't.

Speaker 13 (50:18):
Understand the plate discipline that these guys used to have.

Speaker 15 (50:22):
You know, they used to uh last.

Speaker 13 (50:25):
Year and actually at the beginning of the season a
little bit they were they were actually having these pictures
pitched to them. And now these pitchers are just pitching
it anywhere and these guys we're swinging at it, and
it's just it's absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
And I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Thank you, Steve. Yeah, I mean, excuse me.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
The plate discipline, the pitch selection, the at bats, the
execution just has not been there. Sean there's just no
other way to put it.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
It's just has not been.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
There, sure hasn't been there late, and it's been an
inconsistent part of their game all year long. Yeah, you
haven't been able to ride that pony the whole time
of Oh yeah, this will carry us, this will carry us, hitting, hitting, hitting,
I mean it's just been for a group, you know,
for a group that's so talented. The frustration has been
it's been a long year of frustration with leaving runners

(51:17):
in positions and you can't waste pitching outings and they're
too hard to come by anyway. Yeah, but we are
not telling them anything they don't know, and you and
I both know this. We're not telling the astros recognize this.
The question is recognizing it and getting it fixed or
two different things. And that's that's why they get paid
the big money and play one hundred and sixty two
of them. We get to sit back and speculate on
the whys and the who's and the where's and the

(51:38):
wins and the ifs and all those things. But yeah, man,
it is the players. You have to if you want
to be a championship team. If you don't, you just
do this you hang around and you'll be close, which
isn't who the Astros have been. But in order to
be a championship team, they're going to have to play
a lot of the rest of the season like they

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it in June in July. They're going to have to
rake in key situations and get good pitching performances, and
it's all going to have to come together at once.
All of it sounds so cliche and elementary, but it's true.
The cliche part of, yeah, I got to come together
and execute it all, but it is really truly a fact.
And they haven't done that a ton over the course
of what one hundred and ten games whatever we're at

(52:22):
right now, Brian, fifty plus to go right around there something,
you know. I mean, they got fifty some games, between
fifty and sixty games to go, fifty something.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
One hundred and twelve games played so far.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
So one hundred and ten to one hundred and fifty games, yeah,
fifty total. So there you go. So it is, it's
going to be. It's no longer a marathon. Okay, this
is no longer this like I said last week, this
is the eight hundred meter race. Now where it's basically
a dead sprint, but it's a three quarters sprint, you know,
until the last kick for those guys. It feels to

(52:55):
me when I'm watching the eight hundred meter like those
cats are just running a dead sprint for two laps. Well,
we need that to field this way as well, and
their bats are going to have to live it up
it start. I would have never thought I'd see this
where they're second to the bottom of the league in
runs the last fifteen games or whatever, and the only
other teams of White Sox they haven't won in twenty
one games. That's not who the Ashs are, but right

(53:16):
now it's who they are, and that's why the analytics
and the metrics are flat out telling you that they're
not scoring enough runs and.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
They are not executing let's uh, oh my goodness, all
six lines on hold, Sean got a lot of people
that want to get in.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
They are everybody wants to do a line on the show.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
So there, yeah, where you go a seven, seven ninety
will We will get to all of you that are
on hold next during the stakeout right here on Sports
Talk seven to eighty.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to Sean.
Oh no more, Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety
all right, Sean.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
What are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
The Salsbury's takeout sells brief takeout on.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
The Sean Salisbury Show. All right, it's time for the
steak out. We got six phone lines booked. Let's be
Chris Fellas. Want to talk Astros triple. He's got the
buzzer ready forty five seconds to a minute each because
we've got plenty of people that are on hold and
want to get in and talk to us about the Astros.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Roger, you're up first, Onny Fellas.

Speaker 11 (54:27):
Yeah, this is just this is just a direct result
of too many bad acquisitions.

Speaker 15 (54:33):
You're gonna be stoutcasts.

Speaker 11 (54:34):
At for next year and too many injuries. Lots to
overcome the pitch and finally came around, but you little
too late, and I'll be ready for next season. It's
gonna be awesome.

Speaker 9 (54:42):
I'm a great day Fellas.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Thank you, Roger, he's ready for next season already. Damn.
Let's talk to our guy, Tom Tommy, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
What's coming on?

Speaker 6 (54:52):
Guys?

Speaker 11 (54:52):
Thanks for having me in. Hey, you know every time
I hear Joe with spot or come on, the radio.
I got to tear down to town. I just can't
listen to them, you know. I mean, I don't want
to get on his case. The team's in a horrible slump,
and I think they'll come out of it, but it's
it's awful hard to hear them, you know. I remember
back in the day some of the managers I watch,

(55:13):
I would look at the team and I'd say, they
take they take on you know the personality of the manager. Well,
right now, the Astros are milk toast. I mean they're
they're hitting less than one hundred with the base of loading.
That means every player that gets in the batter's box
is jose of Brady right now. Or they're faith in

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Sandy Kochkak.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I'm hoping they're.

Speaker 11 (55:35):
Going to snap out of it. I've still got faith
in them. I'm not going to abandon ships. I think
that this is going to still be their fext final season.
I want to look at it at half full. The
pitching has been terrific. We need Promer to go out
here tonight and bust us away. Thanks guys, I appreciate
letting me in.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Thank you, Tom. Let's keep it rolling. Let's go to
Billy Billy, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 16 (56:00):
Good morning, guys. You know we should have seen this
thing coming. It's been coming for a couple of years,
from the Bagwellian contracts to not addressing the center field,
not addressing left field. After we lost Brafter Brenley went down.
We haven't put any bats up there to help anybody
out at all. We've fallen in love with Jake Myers,
which I'll never understand. We fall in love with a
hot streak and call it a reality doesn't make any

(56:22):
sense to me at all. A lot of this is
on Crane and it's some bad decisions that he's made. Yeah,
Dana Brown's got some responsibility to it too, but at
some point, you just got to make the right choice
and they haven't done that, and it's a little frustrating
to me. And quite honestly, I don't think that Jose
excuse me, I don't think that Jordan Alvarez is ever
going to see another pitch as long as he's in
an astro's uniform unless they get somebody hit behind him.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
And I'm out, Thank you, Billy, and let's talk to Edward. Edward,
welcome in.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Hey, wait, dude, look at h man, it.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Wasn't a home run.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
And some guys that they're swinging two picks instead of back.

Speaker 8 (56:58):
You know, they got a whole lot of the problem.

Speaker 11 (57:00):
I think McCormick reminds me to go back down to
the mining and put me out there.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
I'm out, Thank you work. Let's suck.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
And playing second day. Said word that word I need.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
I needed that. Let's talk to Jacob. What's happening to Jacob?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Hey? What up? Man? Hey, it's a long boy.

Speaker 17 (57:23):
It's this fifty games though, all right, it's fifty games left.
They fought back. There was ten games. Everybody counting them out.
They only a game and a half out, right, they
could be at half after they beat they could dig,
can win Seattle, Kulu did what?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
They're half a game out?

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Now, did you right now?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
I don't think people understand.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
I didn't stand in a slump.

Speaker 17 (57:46):
But they they third an average in the major leagues
right now. Two fifty nine over the last three games
is won something. So they're in the slump. Evidently they
can hit something going on.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
They'll figure it out.

Speaker 17 (57:59):
And look what happ and with uh with with the Yankees,
the Mets came through, swept them didn't they lost the
Boston They both had the biggest bats in the league
with the Philly. Same thing with Philly. This is not
gonna be consistently. As long as they hang around, it
gets it. End of the season, they wake up the
bats and that's it, you know what I'm saying. And
also they are going to be in the playoffs hopefully.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
A ya, thank you, Jacob.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
And last, he's one hundred percent right. I mean, you
stumble in if Seattle has a bad game and you
have an ugly win, your half came out. I mean,
I'm actually more fast. I love the callers today, I
love this man every day. I'm more fascinating the fact
that they're a game and a half out of first place.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Yeah, I think that's the whole Yay, I got you.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Ye, Sorry that they're a game and a half out
of first place, after all they've been through, after after everything, injuries.
I'm not saying it's okay they're not playing well, but
after all this, I'm fascinated that they are still a
game and a half out of first Sea we talk
as if, oh man, they got twelve games to make up.
I mean, it's incredible how quickly things change.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Yeah, there's a question about it.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, we've
seen these struggles over the last two weeks with runners
in squad. I mean all season long, it has been runners
in score, because that's been a problem. But yet like
statistically they're still like at the top when it comes
to average in a couple other categories. But just here lately,
it's been a struggle, and yet they're only a game
and a half out. But it's like I said earlier,
it's it's like they fought so hard to get back
into this race and now over the last couple of

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weeks it's just been like back to square one from
what we saw earlier this season.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Well, then there's a hot streak they got on and
now playing very well. Two things I know, with all
the injuries and the way they started, they have no
business being a game and a half out of first place.
They are crazy.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
Yeah, let's let's talk to Brandon. Brandon, welcome in, Good morning,
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
How are you.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
We're good, Brandon, what's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
I'm all right, Astros needs to stop losing Jersey game.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I know, Brandon. They're going to be back after today, hopefully,
they win.

Speaker 17 (01:00:04):
Yeah, who is pitching today?

Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
Is Valdez Brandon?

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
I can't hear you, buddy, your your connection is very poor.
I couldn't triply.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
I can't. Maybe we'll get to that later. I couldn't.
I couldn't understand what he was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I thought he said, who's starting today on the mountain? Yeah, okay,
I couldn't. I think he said. I think he said Valdez.
I think he asked you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
Fro from or is indeed pitching today?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
I could not understand that. Maybe you on the West
Coast could It's crazy that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I speak for West Coast?

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
You do?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah? I got it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Wow? Yeah, what's that like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Well? I got more quad lingual you know, OKAYU lingual?
I speak you know, I speak Texan hmm. Yeah, so
you know there you go speak the valley.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
You speak of you speak dude knees because you know,
you like to you like to holler. A lot of dudes, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Know, speak valley and I'm talking about valley like the valley.
Do you think that every call your surfer talks like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
That's exactly how you speak?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Right? Sure?

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
I do?

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:01:19):
Yeah, I'm out here on the west Yeah, yeah, going
out and shredding the gnar this morning, you know, just
being one with the ocean bro.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Playing, playing the air guitar guitar. Yeah, you know out.

Speaker 18 (01:01:32):
Here on the on the on the five, going over
to the four oh five.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
You gotta put in front of it, the five and
the four five. Give me a brosky call you one
of your frat buddies.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
No, I have frad buddies. Hey, triply, Hey, Sean. We
got to give it up to our callers. That was nice,
and Crisp it was Yeah, excellent, Chris, there it is. Yeah,
to the point everybody's got something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Yeah, well, Mark, I sit back and I just love it.
Well gone seasons. Oh, Roger, I mean Roger said Roger.
I mean Roger just said bad. It's been a hell roun.
I'm fired up for next year.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
We got this year, he said, I'll see you guys
next year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I ain't ready for next year baseball season yet. I
gotta do. I'm trying to find a way to fight
through this one and get us these astros to where
they got to get to. And you're ready for football season,
but Roger's ready for spring training already.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Literally said I'll see you guys next season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Oh man, all right, let's let's get to break. We'll
keep talking about this Astros loss seven one three seven,
phone lines getting fired back up, Let's talk about it next.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
The Seawan Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Let's get back out to the phone lines. Talk to
Steve first, Steve, good morning, Yes.

Speaker 8 (01:02:48):
Good morning to you. How you're doing, Sean?

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I'm doing wonderful, Steve. Thank you?

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
Are you fantastic?

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:02:56):
It's power low better excuse.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Tripley.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Tell him first of all, tell them that there's two
other guys on the show, and then also let him
know that his connection sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Hey, Sean, how you doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Bub Well, I'm doing good Manah, Yeah, I'm doing great.
How about you?

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
I'm fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
You know, do people really think that it's just you
on the show? So bro, Like, what is wrong with people?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
I don't think so. I don't think they I think
they hear us all so, I don't think they think
it's just me.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
I don't think do they think we sound alike?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
No, I don't think that's the case. And I think
now it's like I think now it's just they're doing
it to to to irritate.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
No, I don't think this. No, this, Steve, I don't
think so maybe some of the other guys. Yeah, maybe
this one. Let's try us again, Steve, what's up.

Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
Yes, I'm back again. Thank you for taking the call.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Yeah, I'm just I just answer phones here, man, it's crazy, Okay, Well.

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
I try to answer them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:04:01):
Just a quick question. Uh, and it's a question for
everybody to think about, particular critics. If I have two glasses,
one of them is empty and the other one has
water in it. The empty one is eight ounces, and
I poured four ounces of water into that glass. Is
that glass half empty or half full?

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
We're always a half. The glass is half full here
on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
But it's still only fifty percent of the glass. It's
still only fifty percent of the glass. So yeah, half
full or half empty. You choose. You get to choose that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
Well, good answer, you get to choose my answer. Yeah,
My answer is the glass is always full. Before I
put the water in, there is full of air. I
poured four ounces of water in it. Now it's full
of one half air and one half water. So the
glass is always full. We so critics will think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, I always said when people say glass out full,
which I'm a glass out full as guy saying all
the time. Brian just mentioned it. But the truth is,
when you see a glass half full, you get to
decide is it half empty or half full? And maybe
that's part of the character of personality people have. If
it's half empty, then I think that you're probably somebody
likes to chase out. If it's half full, then you're optimistic.
So it's all about how you visualize it's it's still

(01:05:16):
just half full.

Speaker 8 (01:05:18):
Yeah, I visualize it as always being full.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
First you go. And that's a good thing, right, No,
I got you. That's a good personality and a good trait,
character trait to have to see it full.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
What what is this in regards to the astros?

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
In regards to the astros and the critics, come on,
the glass is always full, depending on what you think about?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
So what what what like? What's other than that? What's
like your message to the critics?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
What? What?

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
What issue do you have with the critics on? Is
it the players? Is it the manager? Like, let's give
me a little no more context with this, please?

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
Well, I like the people to realize that, you know,
even the best people lose, and sometimes the best lessons
come from a big loss. And what I've noticed with
the Astros is when they lose to a team me
and I feel sorry for that team because the next
day or the next game, they are going to beat

(01:06:15):
the snot out of that team. I've seen them do
it too many times, and they're in a law and
I feel like there's going to be some people having
to pay for that law. It won't be the Astros.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
There we go. I appreciate you explaining a little more.
Thank you for the cost, Steve.

Speaker 8 (01:06:31):
Thanks for the questions. Now there we go.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
I like the positivity with the chemistry lessons.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
He's right, he sees it from everything's full because it's
oxygen and the water. It's full. You know how to
have it. And honestly, there's people who have that trait.
Did they find the good and everything or the positive
and everything? I think that was his message. I'm sure
he has his critical moments, but when all of a
sudden done, that's not a bad way to go about life.

(01:07:00):
If you can see that and everything. We probably all
need a little piece of that, because how many times
you look some said, oh gosh, here we go again.
But it's it's a good trait that I wish I
had every day to be able to say, you know,
it's all full, even if it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
If he sees it full, I like it. I mean
good points by him. I like the science lesson, the
history lesson, and the motivational speech lesson. All in one.
He did it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Four ounces of water, four ounces of air.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Means an eight ounce glass is full. They would see
what he did there, when most would say, well, it's
only four ounce as well, you know the oxygen the
air that's in there, so it is full. But it's
just all in the eyes of the person who sees
it full empty, half full, half empty, or all the
way full. He's like even the States, he's all the

(01:07:50):
way ful with his stibus. So there you go. I
like it. Good good lesson to good lesson to learn it.
You know what's seven to twenty in the morning. I
like it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
Yeah, I'm serious.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
I didn't really know where that's all right, it's that
West coast time dog.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
You didn't know where he was going. You didn't know
where he was going. No, you didn't where he was going.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
With the glass, half full glass. You know it's always
full air critics. That's why I asked for a little
more context.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
I like it, and he gave and he boomed. He
gave it right to you. Good for him. Yeah, so
call so basically quit being a names there, dude, don't
be a critic. Yeah, he was talking to you. He
was talking to dog. Anybody else is talking to you
after you dressed his ass down for not saying hi
to you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
I didn't know, I know, man, I'm just saying, yeah,
that didn't you know?

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I thought he was. God, are you up
on the ceiling like, uh, you know, I was looking
down at the studio like you made you jump to man?
You let Steve know to tell you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Like Steve, I just answered the phone.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Yeah, I like it. I just handed the phones there.
The other two guys we're not here, you know. I
like that though. You that's called You're You're gonna get
some etiquet out of these folks, aren't you. Yeah? Yeah,
I like your style, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
I went full Damn Ryan always it is always Yeah,
I know, man like style. Yeah, just real quick, I
know we're coming up on time and getting ready to
go to break and then I got a stat for
you that. Uh it's it's pretty eye opening when it
comes to this Astros offense.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
What is wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna give it a sap stat.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Yeah, I know I've asked you this before and I'm
gonna do it again. What is wrong with Ryan Presley?

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
He's all shook up.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
He's not wearing blue sweet shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
I did there.

Speaker 12 (01:09:42):
Yeah, that's another thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
Do you realize that we are it's already August sixth,
like we're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
We're just gonna be. The holiday is in like a
couple of weeks. It feels like damned rights. You wake
up and it's Halloween.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Yeah, and we know you're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
I might change up the mask, but I'll be I'll
be dressing up and scaring, you know, stand on street.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Corners, scaring kids.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Yeah, yeah right there before he's Mike Myers, who knows
good f them kids? Yeah, them kids. But you're you're right,
you asked to talk. I don't know, like I said it,
Uh yeah, like I said, what would I say? He's
having what he said, he's s's all he's all shook up. Yeah,

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I don't know, but I just I think part of
it is still the more comfortable running yet nine than
he is at eight and too. Yeah, that's just me
and I think that that. I think there's something to
be said for that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Yeah, I think I think that's what it is, man,
And he did not execute last night. Corey Seeger tied
the game in the eighth inning and then the Rangers
going to win in ten innings on a walk off bomb.
I have a stat in regards to the Astros offense
and it is eye opening.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
Let's talk about it next on Sports Talk seven to eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
This is the Sean Salisbury showsful.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Louis Garcia is about to come back, even though he's
not throwing because of his elbow.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
He's shut down. He'll be fine. Lance McCullers Junior.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Look, I know Joe Spatta said he's not gonna pitch,
but he might come back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
He might.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Yeah, that's all I got, No go, that's all I
got because both of I guarantee you Louis Garcia doesn't pitch,
and I bet and we know that Lance pacl Is
ain't pitching.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Yeah, there you go, man, frustration base, are you boiled
over yet? Is it started to boil over? When you
hear that, I love that phrase. Oh man, so it
started to boil over.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
No, uh huh No.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
They're a game and a half pack.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
That's it. Just a game and a half. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Man has some bad baseball to plate, Yes, some bad
baseball to play. Yeah, that's the reality of it. Bad
baseball and good pitching wasted. Question.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
The bottom four hitters in the Astros order last night,
oh for thirteen nine strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
No contribution is basically what you're saying, correct last night?
Is that the alarming stat Yes? Yeah, well, and it's
a that's that's not gonna especially at the top of
the order. We're, you know, trying to get Bregman rolling again.
Jordan's power is not going to see any pitches because

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there's nobody right now protecting him. So you at the
top of the order that's not getting the powers needed.
The bottom of the order basically it was basically sticks
on nine last night, correct, Because they couldn't They couldn't hit,
so you're already under under man six on nine and
no production. Then at the top half, they're just gonna
They're just going to meander around and the play wears

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Waldo on Jordan until they're not going to get what
would you I'm not letting that guy beat me, So
one of you other guys beat me, And none of
you can do that right now because you're not driving
in runs. So they're going through that bout of just
as hot as they were at the plate when they
got rolled. They're going through the bout of just as
cold and clutch, and they this looks eerily similar to
the way they started the season. You know, with some

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of the things that are happening at the plate, I
do trust that there's enough guys to get it done.
But we can only keep saying that for so long
with fifty games to go. Yet the reason why I
think the frustration is it may be division or bust
if this keeps up, right, because you're almost six foot
a five and a half or five out in the
wild card and you're one and a half out, it

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could be you either win the division or you find
your ass at home. So I think that's part of
the frustration, because there's there's not a lot of room
for air. The last fifty games. That's that's you know,
that's the ground to make up. Yet we saw him
make up ten games and what felt like twelve days.
That's basically what it felt like. So but they're they're
not going to get where they want to go, and

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you can't continue to expect lights out pitching from everybody
and starting rotation, and you got to expect that. Okay,
maybe when you score six or seven runs, you're not
going to get the same performance all the time from
these pitchers. So there's going to have to They're gonna
have to help each other. It can't be one extreme
or the other because that that leads to what we're seeing,

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a streak of winning, and then you go through a
cold streak and you'd like to level that out a
little bit because the Mariners are going to play better
baseball than they did when the Astros close that gap.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
Yeah, you would think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
So I told you not to count don't don't count
out the Rangers. I'm just telling you in this division,
I still would not sleep on them. I still would
not sleep on them. If you were looking for a
manager that knows how to get him going. The guy
and that Dugout's the best we have in baseball period
period in Bruce Bochi. He is the very best. He'll

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have him ready.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
To go seven two John good morning.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Yeah man, you hear right? That ruse boat you man,
he's a good manager. I mean he he. He made
some moves in the play in the playoffs last season
against the Ashjows that was very, very smart. But look,
let me tell you something, man, what an that's a
nine statement yesterday? Uh being just moving in the right direction.
But I think we're gonna have to shut Lansma's colors

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down for the rest of the season. What an assamine statement.
But listen, this is what I got to be on.
I've been watching this all season, Sean and Brian. This
Joe is fired. Why they hell does he feel like
he's got the pinch hit every night. I ain't never

(01:15:45):
seen a manager pinch hit so much for another player.
And then on top of that, he's bringing in players
that they are two eleven hitter to take the place
of hitters that their body of work over the years
have shown that their much better hitters. Hey man, most

(01:16:07):
of the time, it's better to stick with the horse
that brought you to the race, Bro, you don't have
to do that. I honestly feel like this pinch hitting
that he's been doing all season has really cost us
some games. Man, he did not have to do that
pench hitting last night. I don't care. If a better

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run player has struck come up to bad and struck
out three times, his body at work tell you that
the next time come up he just may get a hit.
Certainly he has a better chance of getting a hit
than when you bring it in a two E left
and hitter. And this bringing in Ferguson.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
The guy just got hit to this town.

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
He don't know anybody, he don't know the fans, and
you put him in a in a cooker like that
last night. Why is the man that we are calling
about Joe's Spider decision making every day? We can't all
be wrong this this this is just really crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
I saw them players last night, but they was kind
of pissed off. Man, they really were. Man, our two
bay has struck out two three times before in many
a games. And then when it comes closer in his game,
the man get a hit. You know you you got
to ride with your players, man, you ain't. What about
that kid man the one used to be uh helped

(01:17:28):
us win the World Series? I think he's Latino. Uh
that he plays four five positions out there. We just
straighted and got him back. What's his name?

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
You're you're talking about the.

Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, when lemas is when they just
recently got him in and he went out there. Yeah,
he looked at bad swinging and everything, But it doesn't
mean that the man can't come out there and do
something the next time. The man has done done some
good things over the years. Bring him out dead. He's
a veteran. Nobody's gonna cry. Stick with your veteran players

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that have done good things for his team. You don't
have to pinch hit every night. And then on top
of it, when he brings in the two eleven, when
he brings in the pinch hitters, who's who's back last
in the ninth or tenth in And when we need
a hit, the same two or three two eleven hit
us that he brought in in the eighth or seven in.

(01:18:31):
And it's horrible, man, it's horrible. Y'all. Have a good one, man.
I'm gonna listen to your comment.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Man, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
John Well put it to uh, I mean, yeah, to
John's point, Carotene got a pinch it. Trey Cabbage, you
got a pinchh it. John Singleton got a pinch it.
The only guy left on the bench was a leedmis ds,
so they would have gone more than ten.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
They would have been a world to hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Right if I could just maybe summarize John's passion and
real simply, I think John thinks that Joe's spotty gets
too cute at times. Is that fair to said it?
I'm not saying whether you agree or disagree. I think
my hearing John about this that at times you try

(01:19:15):
to maybe overmanage and make moves at the time that
some may not think you should make moves. That's what
I gathered from all that passion that he thinks he
gets a little too and when you get a little
too like a pinch hit happy and move this guy
and lean on people that have been there. He wanted more,
lean on experience, and I think probably he probably likes

(01:19:36):
a little less overmanaging and just you run nine out there,
so you put him out there for a reason, let
him play. I think that's how I gathered what John
was trying to say.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
I think there's a lot of frustration right now, especially
with the loss last night, and it's just you know,
at the end of the day, players got to execute.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
They got to figure it out because this offense is
not performing well over the last couple of weeks. You're
ready to talk Texans eh mid mid?

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Okay, okay?

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
Seven three?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Yeah? Good. Every across of the league wants to talk.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Texts good Demico, Ryans had some thoughts on his starters.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Good.

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Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
Demico.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Ryan's yesterday speaking to the media after practice and he
talked about his number one offense and defense. Will they
get in against Pittsburgh. This is what Coach Ryan's had.

Speaker 19 (01:21:24):
To say when it comes to the snaps in preseason.
I think everybody's trying to figure out some teams don't
play start or some play all right. I truly believe
in that a guy needs to get reps in the
preseason game.

Speaker 20 (01:21:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
We don't go to the ground, as you see the
way we practice.

Speaker 19 (01:21:39):
We try to keep guys up and be as safe
as possible in practice. I think everybody needs the opportunity
to go to the ground a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Times in the game and just.

Speaker 19 (01:21:48):
Get up, dush yourself off, and know you know you're good,
right And I'm okay, like I can go to the
ground and get up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
So you just have to go.

Speaker 19 (01:21:55):
Through and play live reps of football before live action
comes us up. So you'll see our ones go out
and get reps this week versus Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
That's Coach Ryan's talking about the ones getting some action
against Pittsburgh. I would assume Sean that c J. Stroud
will probably get a series and a couple of these
other guys the same way. But what do you think
about him talking about guys need to hit the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Yeah, I'm with him, and I've always believed in it.
I've I think we've all backed off a little bit
on how you approach training camp because it'll never be
like it was when we mean, you know it start
out six weeks or four weeks, where you're four or
five weeks and you're in pads all the time and
getting physical. I know when I was at SC we

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believed that practicing physical prepared us for the season, and
we practiced. We practiced during the middle of the week
at time we put here, and we do live drills
during the season. That just spring prod. I mean we
were but we would wear your ass out running student
body right with Marcus and three first rounders in the
offense line, that was who we were. As it goes along,

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we've changed the distance of training camp. That's why you'll
see slow starts because I'm talking about not just in
preseason games, but in the regular season, because they just
haven't had long enough to get ready. There's so much specialization,
so much guys just don't get enough work yet you
have fresher legs. But Demiko's exactly right, and I still
I do. I think you'll see Stroud for a couple
of series. Maybe you know, if they go down and

(01:23:22):
score on their first drive and it's a twelve player,
ten play drive, I think he made that may be it.
And he throws a touchdown pass or they it's smooth
sailing for a series or two, then get him out.
I like I said, there's certain guys I don't really
want to see because of the pounding. You know, I
was never had no issue with Ladani and Thomson never

(01:23:43):
playing in a preseason game. I knew what I was
going to get and I knew how how important he
was to an offense. So him not carrying the football
running to daylight in a spring training game or spring
when I say spring, a exhibition game, a preseason game
did not matter because I knew he was shown it.
There's certain guys I don't I don't need. I don't

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need Rogers to take a lot of work. But in
the for the overall, there's never the the always or
never thing. I'm with tomko Ryans. I don't think that
you can fake physical. I don't. I don't think that
you can not play physical or practice physical, or at
some point have a drill or two during the week,

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or miss the live action games. Where you've beaten on
somebody else and then all of a sudden, after three
or four weeks of it, turn on the light switching
in September, decide, well, here's how you're going to play physical.
I don't believe most teams can exist like that. I do.
I'm a big believer. And you practice like you play
like you practice. And now there's always the outlier of
a game and fresh legs and when to be physical

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when not, the risk of injury. It's always going to
be there. You got to be smart, and he is right.
You thump, and you thump, and you thump. You just
don't wrap up and take guys to the ground on
your own team. But at some point in time you
got to know that, oh I just got hit on
a curl route. I'm gonna pop back up, give the
of fish of the ball. Let's get back in that.
It doesn't mean He said to it fifty times in
a preseason game, said a couple of times to learn

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to get hit, get pop back up, and get that feel.
And I don't think I can preach finesse. Finessea is
easy to teach. It is it's easy to teach because
there's technique, and I got a quarterback who can throw it,
and we're running routes and a curls of curls, a
curl all that. But physicality is different because it's it's
a mindset as well. Yeah, I think I know where
I'm doing on toss right. If I'm the right guard,

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I want you or a left guard, I want you
to get out and pull and first body that shows
outside the tight end that that's your guy. First guy
shows clean it up. But there's also the element. So
that's the execution of the x'es and o's here's how
we designed it. And then there's a different part of
the physicality that comes into play when you've got to
move a guy that's that's a nose tack of the

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ways three forty. So I know where to go, but
am I strong enough of physical enough to get to it.
That's the difference. And I'm running a curl route, it's
twelve yard curl route. They can only hold me for
five So I'm gonna get to my spot most of
the time unless I get mulled by a corner that's
so physically I can't get off the ball. But the
execution of physicality mindset. It's different, and I don't believe

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many teams are capable, especially with the way we throw
the ball in the league now and the shortened training camp.
There's not enough time to be to get your physicality
done right. Just on the CBA, you can't practice two
practices in a row in pads, So you've got to
find a ways to get it in. And that means
getting him in these preseason games to do it. It
doesn't mean he wants Joe Mixon if he ever gets

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out to carry it twenty times in a game. He
just wants, you know, Tank Dell to get hit a
time or two on a catch and pop back up.
Let's go, okay, We're good to go. Get him out.
And so I'm one hundred percent on his page. He
gets it. I need fresh legs and health. But you
don't turn physicality on and off like a like like
a water faucet light switch. There's got to be there's
It goes deeper than that. It just I don't care

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if you're the heavyweight boxing champion of the world, if
you haven't got hit in the face a few times,
and you have got hit in the face and you're
that's how you spar the guy never gets to hit back,
or you know you've never taken a shot in a
former match and you get hit. It's it's a stunning
turn of events. Brother. So it's the same in football.
You can be as physical as you want. That dog
on linebacker comes up and puts his helmet on your

(01:27:14):
helmet and you're the right guard and he beats you
to the hole and he stuns your ass. It's like,
we ain't done that in about nine months because we
didn't do it. Much of it. We didn't do in
the offseason, we didn't do much of it in camp. Okay, now,
as you're trying to figure out where your head is
and as your ear coming out your throat, then you
pop back in and get down your three point stands
to do the next time. So you've got to do.

(01:27:35):
You do have to prepare for that. Jamiko Ryans is
one correct.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
So how many reps do you think that first team
offense gets one?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
I'd say no more than if. If if it's one
of those fast moving quarters, I mean a cord in
this game two series max. If they're really a two
series for the stars, you may see a spot receiver
come back in and out right, but you're not you're
not gonna see or two two series a quarter. If
they go to a score of fifteen play drive twelve,

(01:28:05):
play drive, you may only see him one more series
to back it up. Or you may see you may
see some of those guys out already. Okay, I've seen enough.
He got hit, he got hit, this guy did this?
Get him out? Yeah, I don't. To me, it's a
feel thing. There's a there's a ceiling on how long
I want to keep him in. But uh, there's no
I mean, I may say, well, I want two series,

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three series from him, but if I see what I
want to see in the first series, they take care
of their business, get them out and on defense they
get two straight stops for they're three and out, three
and out. You may get him a third because they
were quick series, but they get a first down and
then you stop them on a drive and get him out.
So to me, it's I'll know with the eye test
when the first group, when I've seen enough in preseason

(01:28:48):
game one, and it won't be long.

Speaker 5 (01:28:50):
Yeah, so just kind of go with the feel of it. Yep, Yeah,
no doubt that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
But there's a there's also a but there's a ceiling on. Okay,
we saw two series. I didn't see really what I want,
but I'm not running them out there. Third, we'll get
that preseason game number two. I don't want anybody risk
an injury. So there's a certain length that you won't
let them go, but you may let them go quicker,
get him off the field quicker if you see what
you want to see early in their reps.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
One of the top players for the Houston Texans is
still not practicing.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
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Speaker 5 (01:31:20):
Heard from Dimiico Ryans.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
He talked about the Ones getting a little bit of
action against the Steelers. Well, a guy that's on that
number one offense has not been playing, Sean. Joe Mixon
still not practicing for the Texans. He hadn't practiced in
like two weeks, three weeks. Any concern with this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Yeah, because durability has been a specialty is we've talked
about that on here. The guy plays football and when
he lines up, he plays all season of football. I
wouldn't be concerned if you told me he didn't play
in the preseason games but was practicing. I'm more concerned
with the lack of practice, and I un the lock
him playing a preseason game, and I'm not he knows

(01:32:04):
how to playing big games. He's been in a Super Bowl.
He gets it. But and running backs are a different
They're they're built different. Well, they can do it. They
when you're a guy like him or Derek Henry who's
used to issuing punishment, we're trying at certain stages to
back you off from issuing that punishment so your legs
are fresh. So running backs are almost a different those

(01:32:25):
guys of the mcaffie. I don't need McCaffrey carrying it
forty times in the preseason. I feel pretty good about
his speed and explosiveness. I don't need him. I don't
need an over exuberant rookie getting a little carried away
trying to make a team that it's on the bubble,
going after my guy, you know, tackling my guy who's

(01:32:45):
a bellcal for my football team. So same thing here
with mixed and he went on gone for a reason.
He he's an extremely good football player and tough. But
if you told me Sean, they've played two preteen games,
he hasn't seen a snap. Are you concerned it' say
absolutely not. Is he practicing, Yeah, he's bracking a ton
of work in I'm good. But the fact that he's
not on the practice field and you know, I'm sure

(01:33:07):
listening to the verbiage and meetings and all that, but
the fact that he's not going, is this more precautionary
or is it more we're a little nervous because he
hasn't healed from something or is something nagging him? Because
I need a healthy Joe Mixon. That's he's going to
be a major cog in their success this year. He
is a a big piece to the puzzle of trying

(01:33:29):
to add bandwidth to your offense. And so the longer
this goes the practice field concerns me. It concerns me
more than any player I every day on If you're
consistent every day on the practice field and have a
gass series or two where you don't play good in
the preseason, Now I got to wonder, is if it
regularly happens, and are you a gamer or a practice
field all American? But I need I'm not worried about that.

(01:33:51):
When I see a guy making a team that's consistently
good physically, mentally, on time and the meetings, paying attention
on practice field, the game comes to the cherry. On
top of it becomes easier on preseason games. The consistency
of the grind of two hours of practice every friggin date,
sometimes twice a day. That's where guys, to me make it.

(01:34:12):
I need Joe on the practice field. I don't care
if he plays a snap in the preseason, but the
practically it's starting. Another week into this and you'll start
to be concerned how football ready he'll be.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
So the last update was about five days ago and
it came from our guy, Aaron Wilson of KPRC Channel
two Sports. He reported that Mixing is making steady progress
in his recovery from a minor quad injury. Mixing has
been dealing with a soft tissue injury early in training
camp and he's already been ruled out. That was for

(01:34:46):
the Hall of Fame game, and at this point it
was stated that he would at some point resume practicing
during the preseason.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
And that's all be important. Now. Listen, those off tissue
are a pain in the ass. Now, how many times does
soft tissue hammy for a receiver that had it during
preseason and then comes back and it's one of those
you're concerned about the entire year, right, So, to me,
if Joe Mixon gets to the point he's like Okay,
I'm ready, maybe even take a day or two more.

(01:35:18):
Because soft tissue, you don't need. A hamstring's a hamstring
in his case, quad lingering all season long. So I
think there's part getting him ready, but you also want
to make sure it's not ninety two percent. You want
it to be as close to one hundred percent as
possible for your running back out there, because some of
those soft tissue injuries can end up being just nagging
to where you'd never quite get to do the things

(01:35:40):
you want to do all year long. So keep an
eye on that and watching to win. He's going to
get there. Put it this way, if you told me listen,
we're more even on the preventative side, Joe will be ready.
We're not going to practice him much that it's Quad's healthy.
If it meant getting him healthy for game one or
getting them to eighty five or ninety percent and getting
him practice to get the game one, give me the

(01:36:02):
fir give me the former, not the latter. I don't
need eighty five percent. And then on the field, just
because he's now he's practicing and we feel good about it,
I need him to feel one hundred percent healthy. So
if that was my choice. Give me the one hundred
percent ready in the game as opposed to eighty five percent,
And we got him some preseason work, but we're still
not sure if he's one hundred percent, I'll wait. These

(01:36:24):
don't count, and I trust that he can find a
way to work his way back into as long as
he's in playing shape. It'll take him about three hits
before somebody thumps him and he's like, oh okay, that's right.
Nice reminder because he's used to doling out a lot
of punishment with his with his body as well.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
And then also Danil Hunter, will Anderson Junior did not
practice yesterday due to minor injuries. Demiko Ryan's saying, quote,
those guys will be just fine end quote. Is this
stuff like they're just got a little bit beat up,
trying to get the body back into football form.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Well, and you know they may be oh man, is
a little sore from a couple of drills. Sit out,
you're good and see, I know you're gonna be okay.
Matter of fact, it'll be good for your legs. It
is when he said they're gonna be just fine, I
don't even call those minor injuries. Those are little aches
and pains. Injuries aren't uh one practice or two practice thing.

(01:37:17):
Those are those are called you know and getting beat
up in a little nicks and you know those things
and injuries ones that it's around when you're injured. You
shouldn't play. When you're hurt, you have to play, so
unless it's the preseason, so you know you have that one. Ah,
ankor's a little tight and I think I turned it
on a route. Oh, you're good. Yeah, let's just get it. Okay,
let's take this afternoon practice. See you field tomorrow. Well.

(01:37:39):
I don't know what part of their body, but those
guys are thumping a lot, you know when you're talking
about dealing with lineman. So it could be ann guy
got grabbed wrong, maybe you know, a little uncomfortable, slept
wrong the night before on his neck, who knows, But
they'll be all right. I'm not worried about those two guys.

Speaker 5 (01:37:54):
Here's the real question, Sean. You ready for it?

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Yep?

Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
Do you think any of those guys have bone bruises?

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
I would say that there's nobody on the team. Oh,
I think there's probably some bruises, but I think that
there's nobody on the team right now who is missing
an extended amount of time because of a severe bone bruise,
which obviously i'le Tucker has. We would love to get
that healthy. That would be great.

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
What's it like taking what's it like taking a helmet
to the shin?

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
It's bad just about as not quite as bad, but
can hurt worse as the helmet to the chin, not
just the shin, the chin helmet or the guy used
to be able to listen to any quarterback I know
it's been added more than a minute and for a
while has a scar underneath our chin where your hair

(01:38:48):
can't grow, right under your chin. That's from a helmet,
crown of a helmet. The second you release the ball,
stand in the pocket and a guy coming right down
the gun burrell and hits you right in your mouth.
That yeah, that's so I got that scar. I was
just thinking about. So I would imagine that chin the
chin music that you get as a quarterback, then we
most all of us have had. If you've played any

(01:39:09):
amount of time, that the shin probably very similar. Maybe
the shin's even more painful. I don't know, because you
get hit in the face, you're like, uh, which way
is the sideline, but maybe the longevity of the shin,
so hopefully it'll heal quicker. But I don't think anybody's
missing time right now do to bruised shin. I don't

(01:39:29):
know they'd be able to pull that one off. But
this is no joke aside. This is I mean all
joking aside. Kyle Tucker's injury. Is that that that's severe stuff, man,
For it'll be going on three months now at the
end of this line.

Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Yeah, it's a long time. That's a that's a quarter
of the year he will have been out with the bumbers.
You know, I'm not diminishing it, but I'm just not.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
I just you know, really, it just makes you really
wonder did he lose his crown? For king to the
king loses crown, that's going to be next right here on.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Yeah, well, hopefully you get it back because we sure
need him, and that's gotta be I mean, I put
it this way. If you're out two and a half
months to three months because of this, uh huh, imagine
the pain that it actually induced. The Actually, yeah, so
been asking you what's it feel like? Yeah, well I
can tell you just stand in the middle of the

(01:40:28):
room and let me put a helmet on and hit
you with a crown of it in the chin. I'll
give you a pretty good idea.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
You got your pads and uh you want to pad up?

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Dog? Let's go. Yeah, put a few wristbands on. I
don't pat up. Yeah, you know what, forget the rib
cage stuff. Let's just play.

Speaker 5 (01:40:44):
Okay, let's let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
A helmet on, let's go do this thing. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
Yeah, man, we can do it. We can film it,
put it on on social media. We have one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Yeah, well, just another hit. I'd take took it to
one thing. I know I could do with a uniform wall,
take a helmet to the chin. It's It's happened enough times.
So I'm not beating you with my legs. Let's put
it that way. I'm not going to be Lamar Jackson
or Josh Allen. So you either took a hit or
didn't or stood on the sideline your old time. So
there you go, There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
Let's let's stay in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Jim Harball, little butt hurt when it comes to the
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Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
What did he say? That's next.

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And were factory.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
I'm doing something different this morning. I ain't no Chicago
White Sox. Okay, they should be doing something different, right.

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
They gotta like a lot they need to fix.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Guess what I'm doing. You know I'm not a big
I mean, I love breakfast, but for work. You know,
I eat the stuff before I come to work. You
know you're a big breakfast in the studio. You know
you know what I'm saying. You love a breakfast, right, Yeah,
guess what I'm having? Mmmm, is not like me?

Speaker 5 (01:43:28):
No breakfast burrito, Nope, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Not like me. But I'm sitting here's sharing with my
at the Airbnb, at my you know, big kilos right
here too?

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
What do you mean, burger?

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
Have another Nutter butter peanut butter sandwich cookie? I mean
nuttherer butters? Man?

Speaker 5 (01:43:44):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
At six thirty five in California or wherever you are.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
You got a little coffee, a little another nu Nutter
butter peanut butter sanach cookie with to go. It's Scotts
to sell you out, doc, And yeah, I'm eating cookies
with the dogs. Man. How you feel about that?

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
At six thirty?

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Yeah? Another but it's nothing, but it's not my style.

Speaker 5 (01:44:05):
That's pretty cold man today.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
Can you believe this? Triple Sean? Sean will share cookies
with his dog, but he won't share with his dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Be here, you know, with my dogs? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
That's crazy. Mm okay, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
That's a horrible sound.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
That's not a good sound at all.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
Well, just I just been into another butter I bet
you said?

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
No, yeah, no, was wrong there. I just wanted to share,
and I just wanted to share with you guys when
I was having for breakfast. Since you always bitch about
me for not ordering breakfast.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
Well, do you have to shoot fits? You know, maybe
maybe you'll share breakfast with us when you get back
this week.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Could you hear that crunch though?

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
Did you hear the crunch but we didn't hear it?

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:44:57):
Oh man, no, now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
I got there. You go. That's how I feel about
the twenty one losses in a row for the last
suck to go? Yeah, way, what can you imagine going
to work losing twenty one in a row? Yeah, you
getting paid, but the thought of the money still doesn't
make up for pride and ego and competitors. Where like again,
and they're playing twenty one straight.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Yeah, and they're playing in Oakland getting beat by the Athletics,
one of the other worst teams in.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
Baseball at night, which is like by the time it's like,
oh gosh, seven o'clock, it's ten o'clock on the East Coast.
By time it's over, you can't even go to dinner
anywhere unless it's after hour. You know what I'm saying.
Just West Coast ass kicking buy a team that's not
very good. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:45:40):
I wonder how many were in attendance.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
At least they don't how to at least the ages
know how to score. White Sox don't.

Speaker 5 (01:45:48):
Yeah, let's see there were.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
There weren't even there for four and seventy one fans
there last night. Two hundred and I'm sorry, not two
hundred two hour in fifteen minutes game time.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
A he's won five to one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Well, they're grateful it only lasted two to fifteen. Let's
put it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
They may not even win. They might not even get
to forty wins this season. They're the White Sox are
twenty seven and eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
You want to speed up games even faster so the
White Sox season gets over quicker. Just call Mark Burley
and have him come pitch all every Just have him
start for the White Sox every game. The games will
end in like an hour and twenty minutes because he
works so fast hour and twenty minutes. So you can
at least get the season over quick so you don't
have to deal with it. I mean, it's I understand

(01:46:39):
their pros and we all got to go to work
when things aren't going well. But that's losing twenty one
in a row where it's now, it's just become you
become the laughing stock. That's that can't be fun at
least can't be fine. I don't feel sorry for him
on Payday, but I just getting your ass kicked. It'll
be twenty so well, we've lost twenty one to forty two.
We've lost twenty one in a row. They go to

(01:47:01):
work expecting to lose, yes that that is, yeah, expecting
to get your ass handed to you every day. That's
how they go to work and it's happening everything. Well, No,
Chicago fans deserve better than that. You know that you're
you're showing up for a product that's not going.

Speaker 5 (01:47:19):
To win, literally expecting to lose. Just terrible. Man, that
sucks that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Those fans are all fan bases deserve better than to
just mail it and it's like, oh we're done. Yeah,
it's it's a it's a bummer. But I'm quite sure
the players don't like knowing when they go to the
ballpark the chances of them winning are slimming damn near none.

Speaker 4 (01:47:39):
The top average for the White Sox that was in
the lineup last night hitting a whopping at two thirty five,
and that is.

Speaker 5 (01:47:52):
Let's see Andrew Vaughan.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
That makes that means you're looking forward to the off
talk about team somebody was looking forward to, like when
Roger called about I'll see you guys next year. Yeah
about baseball, I mean they legitimately that that's a team
that since about a month into the season, they couldn't
wait till twenty twenty five because twenty twenty four, literally
six weeks into the season was over for them. Think

(01:48:20):
about that, they were a month and a half in
the season, and you knew the next one hundred and
forty games or other thirty games you had no shot.
I don't know what the record and you know at
the midway point you had zero shot. And now the
only reason your name's in the record book is because
of the losses. That because of wins, twenty one of
them can't be good. Yep in a row, twenty one

(01:48:44):
in a row. Let's hear from Jim Harbaugh. He sounded
off on the alleged NCAA violations when he was at Michigan.
This was Harbas speginning of the media yesterday.

Speaker 20 (01:48:57):
Yeah, I do have comment on that. Never lie, never cheat,
never steal. I was raised with that lesson. I have
raised my family on that lesson. I have preached that
lesson to the teams that I've coached. No one's perfect.
If you stumble, you apologize, and you make it right. Today,

(01:49:24):
I do not apologize. I did not participate, was not
aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So for me,
it's back to work and attacking with an enthusiasm unknown
to mankind.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
Yeah, yes, a right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
If you gotta love jim Yeah, with enthusiasm unknown to.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
Man, unknown to mankind, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
I think we metched Jimbo's enthusias as you know what,
I'm I love Jimbo. I do you gotta love Jimbo?
But I'm not gonna let Jimbo. You know, I'm not
gonna let him what he doesn't lie, cheat, or steel
on a hde stealing art energy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
I swear he stole that hitch. He stolen from the
hit movie. Hitch is what he did.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Clever clever by Jimbo. But guess what, unmatched, I'd say
this show will give you all the energy you need. Okay, Jimbo,
We're ready to go to We're ready to line up
and play and hit somebody for you. No, I love him, man,
how about that? Unmatched by Oh I freaking love it?
And what are they gonna do? Take a scholarship? Yeah, yeah,

(01:50:41):
they can't take his scholarship. So he he was adam
it about it. Let's get back to work with with
what do you call it? With an energy and enthusiasm
unmatched by any others.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
Play the final ten seconds of that clip.

Speaker 20 (01:51:00):
Nor complicit in those set allegations. So for me, it's
back to work and attacking with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
With an enthusiasm unknown the mankind. I gotta get a shirt.
We are attacking with an enthusiasm unknown mankind. Great line
by jim O. Wow, hard to be mad. They we
can put college football now. I know the NFL's cover,
but we got Texas to talk. You got Joe Mixon
to get on the field, We got all these weapons

(01:51:32):
to score at will average about thirty three a game.
I kind of that kind of season twenty you know,
thirty three, thirty four a game. We're just big twelve
rolling with the Texans. But college football, dude, we got
we got this new conferences where SC's got a lineup
and play, you know, on a regular Saturday, Wisconsin. We

(01:51:53):
got Texas getting ready. They got host in Georgia early
in the season. I mean, if you're not, if I'm
I'm already geared up for this frigging college football season,
geared up in the NFL. I mean they're both, Man,
it's coming, and I can't. I mean we're the middle
of the month next week, let's frigging go. Yeah, Yeah,

(01:52:14):
it'll be. We're approaching this with an energy and enthusiasm
unlike unknown to mankind.

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
Thanks thanks for that, Jimmy. We appreciate a dog. Let's
let's let's talk a little college football. Next segment, the
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This Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
To continue.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Preseason coaches, correct, I haven't seen it. I can only imagine,
can only imagine, Yeah, imagine all the people little beetles cut.
You don't like the Beatles though, I don't, right, Yeah,
I can. As a matter of fact, let's see if
we can get You want me to see how many

(01:55:00):
the top twelve we can get before you've seen the list.
I haven't correct that.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
I've got it right here in front of me.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Number one close. I would imagine one and two are
either Georgie, Ohio State, Ohio state, George. I'm gonna stay
Georgia with their experience in Carson Beck coming back, because
that quarterback will be more polished. Georgia one, Ohio State two.
I would imagine that's the rankings right now.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
Yep, that is correct. Georgia number one, Ohio State number two.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
Okay, do you want me to go down in order?
Who I think would be in the top twelve? If
you want twelve or fifty? What doy week?

Speaker 5 (01:55:30):
Just twelve makes pretend like it's a playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
Fifteen yeah, okay, twelve yeah, okay, and then the three
left out at the end of twelve, and then three.
All right, I'm gonna assume that the next two or
three without order, and I don't know how i'd shift them,
but you're gonna have Texas in there. Top five for sure.
You're gonna have University of Oregon Dan Lannings seems really good. Yep,

(01:55:53):
they're gonna be in there. And then Texas, Oh well,
I mean Milrose coming back. Maybe they don't make the
top five, but I'll have it to five or six.
Alabama's got to be close.

Speaker 5 (01:56:03):
You got all three.

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
So Oregon comes in at number three, Texas number four,
Alabama number five.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
After that, I'll tell you, Now you start to look
at a couple of conferences.

Speaker 5 (01:56:17):
I think this is kind of where it gets. It
gets kind of kind of muddy humbled.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I would say a couple of my next
ones would probably be and who the coaches voted. This
isn't the writers, this is coach, this is coaches. Yeah.
I'm trying to get into their head. They're gonna still respect.
Notre Dame is going to be in the top ten
or twelve. Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
Yep, they come in to number seven the most.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
I think a team that is dangerous and scary. Now
how physical they'll be, but I would have them in
my top eight right now, returning quarterback, I like this
team a lot is ole miss got to be into
my top ten. Six. Yeah, so now that we've got six, Okay,

(01:57:04):
so I've noted name is Penn State or Michigan top ten?

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Both of them are both of them top ten yep,
Michigan number eight, Penn State number nine.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Okay, we're trying to get twelve. I would think Utass
in the top ten or twelve. I would have them.
I think they're going to be the favorite one of
the favorites in the Big twelve. If not the favorite, I.

Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
Like they should be the favorite in the Big twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
Yeah, I would put you utawd me in my top
probably Todd. They always return a lot of veterans quarterback
coming back. Top ten, but if not top ten, top twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
So they come in just outside of the top twelve
at number thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
All right, I think a team that was not getting
enough credit for how they finished last year. I'm going
through the conferences in my mind. I went through the
ACC and you know, I'm sitting here thinking, Okay, the
PAC twelve that left SC is not going to be
and nobody trust their defense enough. Yet Washington lost Penix,
so I wouldn't have them that high yet. I'm leaving

(01:58:08):
out to where we had two teams even though they
I'll tell you what, because I think they trust Nesmyer
even though they lost them LSU Top fourteen, top twelve maybe,
but LSU closed they'll have athletes, and we know they'll
have receivers and if they get productive quarterback play, even
though they lost the Heisman Trophy winner, I ls you'd
be in my top fourteen, top twelve.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
They are number twelve okay, and.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
We'll see an early test for the Trojans find out
just how physical they are in September. And the team
that I was going to say, like that, two teams
that are still intriguing. How will the quarterback play be?
But I think coaches respect the team because they had
great team speed and after last year they feel host
Florida State somewhere in the top twelve or fourteen, number ten, okay,

(01:58:53):
so they're number two. Oh okay, And then some may
think it's a couple of spots high. So have we
covered them all the teams to keep an eye on
at Dabbos Sweeney's team again, I think that you know,
club Knick's going to be He'll be better. I would
Tennessee top twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
I would think yep, Tennessee comes at fifteen, Clemson at fourteen.

Speaker 5 (01:59:20):
Number we forgot one and that was number eleven. That
is Missouri.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Oh okay, Miszoo. Yeah. I was going to say they're
a top twenty team. But they got them coaching well,
they love Drinkle Wits and you know they're head coach.
They do. And Missouri is a good football team. That
might be the highest preseason ranking they've had in quite
some time, but the coaches respect him. I yeah, that's
so that's why I left out in Missouri pretty much.
The other one I get I had Utah head of Missouri.

(01:59:46):
Is that what I did?

Speaker 6 (01:59:47):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Yes, yeah, I have Utah had of Missouri. Okay, I'll
still stick with that. And then you know there's the Oklahoma's.
It's somewhere like Kansas State is going to be hanging
around because they're always like twenty two. They'll they'll be around.
They're well coached. I would imagine A and M has
got some.

Speaker 5 (02:00:04):
Love number twenty Texas, A and M.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
I don't know if Wisconsin does yet. There's still milking
the quarterback position. I would imagine the Hurricanes top twenty five.

Speaker 5 (02:00:14):
So number nineteen for Miami.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
Okay, so all three Florida's, I mean they're both them
hire in Florida. My Trojans will be down low. I'd
say top twenty five, but probably somewhere in the twenties.

Speaker 5 (02:00:25):
Yeah, twenty three for USC.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
And then who's twenty four?

Speaker 5 (02:00:30):
Let me yeah, let me go through.

Speaker 4 (02:00:32):
Number sixteen is OU number seventeen, Kansas State, number eighteen,
Oklahoma State. Then, of course I said Miami at nineteen
A and M at twenty. Number twenty one is Arizona
number twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
And all that staff too after losing all their staff
to the University of Washington.

Speaker 5 (02:00:47):
Yeah, yeah, still getting some love.

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
Number twenty two North Carolina State, number twenty three USC,
number twenty four Kansas, and number twenty five Iowa.

Speaker 5 (02:00:56):
A lot of big twelve in there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
Yeah, two teams you probably wouldn't normally, like, we're not
used to seeing in the top twenty five to start
the season, although Kansas has done some phenomenal stuff with it,
would be what would be Kansas and Missouri are We're
not used to that. That's not normal. Ones up in
the top twelve and ones over the last few years

(02:01:18):
they've gotten really good. But I'm talking about over the history.
It's like you don't normally go into a season saying
Kansas and Missouri and you're around and out you're ones
in top twenty five and the other ones in the
top twelve, fifteen teams in Missouri. So both held in
regarding both the programs have gotten. They have done some
great jobs building those programs, but those first ten or
ten or twelve or fourteen that those are the teams

(02:01:40):
that I would have picked, so maybe in a few
different orders, but I think they got most of it right.
Those coaches, they know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
Pretty pretty interested to see that there's actually, uh, quite
a bit of Big twelve schools and they're obviously the
SEC dominant and then some other surprising ones I knew,
you know, Kansas is always kind of talented here over
the last couple of years against some love in the
top twenty five.

Speaker 5 (02:02:02):
I can't wait for college football to be back.

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
Yep, yep, They've they've done some phenomenal stuff, the Jayhawks
and building that program. Then does something that's just not basketball.

Speaker 4 (02:02:11):
Someone that something that hasn't done phenomenal things over the
last couple of weeks, the Astros offense.

Speaker 5 (02:02:17):
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Speaker 6 (02:03:30):
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Speaker 4 (02:03:30):
Four losses in a row in the American League, just pathetic.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
We like to call it futility.

Speaker 5 (02:03:37):
Futility. Love it? Good word, yeah, good, good word.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
Man, there's wallowing in futility. Okay, you don't want to wallow?
All right?

Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
No, who wants to wallow? Dog?

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
Yeah you can't. They're getting molly wopped though, aren't they.

Speaker 5 (02:03:56):
Yeah? Yeah, there's no question about that. God, they suck.

Speaker 6 (02:03:59):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:04:00):
Man's getting your ass kicked by the Act both Oakland Athletics.
You might as well get your ass u by the
Miami Marlins too.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
Hey man. They could score some runs though, now, yeah,
Oakland could put up some runs.

Speaker 5 (02:04:09):
What's the Astros will put up some runs.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
Yeah, they could use Oakland's run scoring ability the last
month and a half or so, Right, that'd be great.

Speaker 4 (02:04:16):
Yeah, you know, let me let me let's let's go
back a little bit. There's fifty games left, right, and
what was the thing that we talked about the most
coming into this season or as the season began. Hey,
let's talk about the shows when they're sixty games in.
That's the precursor. Let's sixty games in. Then we can
make a couple of judgments. Well, here we are with
fifty games left. They're a game and a half out

(02:04:36):
of the AO West. They're fifty seven and fifty five.
They have lost three in a row. Their offense is
not very good. They're barely scoring. Their averaging just a
little bit above three runs a game. They struck out
twelve times last night. Did you, at any point in
time coming into this season, Sean, think this is how
it was going to go offensively? Because we were told
that this offense, this roster offensively was better than it

(02:04:59):
was last year.

Speaker 5 (02:05:00):
Did you think like this?

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
I'm one that believed it was better, but believed it
was better. You had a better production at the catching spot.
You couldn't do worse at there. Now he ended up
getting you know what ninety RBIs or whatever was a Brady,
But you weren't going to do worse. Yeah, at the
you weren't going to do any worse at first base,
the combinat, I think you probably the things at this

(02:05:23):
point we've expected more production from McCormick. Jake Myers has
given you flashes of it. We were getting a lot
of production from Kyle Tucker that's been gone because of
his injury, and now we're going on two plus months.
Bregman was minimal production at best for most of it
and went in and he's he's he still hasn't had

(02:05:43):
the power where that we'd like to see from him
with that great swing of his But he's gotten better.
But they've they've slowed down. Jordan's power has not been
the same. You know, he's hitting around three hundred. So
you see you start to go through it. How how
could but but you look at the lineup and we
had to duband the verse to dubond. Where was the weakness?
You thought maybe first base? Yeah, other than that, you

(02:06:05):
thought it, I mean because if Brady was here when
the season started. Remember, so he said, other than that,
we'll get between two or three guys. We'll get that corner,
left field, centerfield, production, fine outfield. We know what Tucker,
you know, we know what Pino. We expected him to
be better this year, you know, and he has been.
We expected a two bay to do all two bay
things for bregmant. So when you look at the roster,

(02:06:26):
the roster is better. At the plate, they're better. The
catching spot alone gives you a feels like a thousand
more off of a thousand more points production in all
categories than what they had in the past last year.
So expect to be better. No, to answer your question,
did I think that they would be this feudal and

(02:06:48):
this inconsistent over the course of the season. Absolutely not.
And think about this. Who leads the team in home
runs right now? You're not the twenty yep.

Speaker 5 (02:06:57):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
At this rate, this rate, they'll have a guy on
the team that doesn't hit thirty. Their entire roster where
nobody hits thirty home runs. Wow, at this rate, twenty
home runs in one hundred and twelve games. He didn't
play in all one hundred and twelve, but twenty home
runs in one hundred and twelve do the math or
however many games Jordan's played it. Now we know he's

(02:07:19):
capable of carrying and hitting seven of them in a week.
But I'm just talking about at this rate what we've seen.
If he gets half of his twenty production in the
next fifty games, that'd be ten home runs in fifty games.
That'd be averaging well won every five games. Is that
about right? Right? Tens morm runs right, So if it's

(02:07:41):
so at this rate, he's going to be fortunate to
get the thirty. Nobody will hit thirty home runs for
the Astros issue. I could have thought. I would have
bet at the beginning of the season, three or four
guys would have hit thirty. Jordan Tucker. I thought Diaz
is capable Bregman in the twenty five range, how two
in the twenty two, twenty six, twenty five range. I

(02:08:02):
would have thought for sure two of the three of
them could have got to thirty, and two or three
more guys in the twenties, and we're struggling to get
we don't have a home run over twenty. I mean,
the slugging's not been there, and they're waving in some
bad pitches recently and they're just not getting runns across.
But you've had this groundhog discussion, Brian all year long
about the beginning, left on base runners in scoring position,

(02:08:22):
runners in scoring position, left on base runners in scoring position,
and through that win streak they got better at it.
But that's kind of been the themo of the team
this year, right, inconsistency. And some of the inconsistency has
been really good, and then some of the inconsistency on
the bad side. And they haven't had a lot where
you just sit in the middle and it's just been
steady or consistently both have been really good. For forty

(02:08:45):
to fifty games they have not meaning pitching and hitting.
So I think that's what they're going to need to
level this thing out. You don't need to be a
hero every night, but you can't. What do they score
three runs the last two games the last series and
they're already in this series. You know last night they
were they scored what three runs? Was it was three runs?

(02:09:06):
They two runs?

Speaker 5 (02:09:08):
Last night they scored three yeah, four to three yeah,
game before.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
Three to one to two six runs in three games?
Is that correct?

Speaker 5 (02:09:17):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:09:18):
Sunday they lost one nothing Saturday, six to one, and
then Friday they won three to two.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
Okay, so I think two.

Speaker 5 (02:09:27):
One zero three over the last.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
Four games, right, so they so they get six runs
right in four games?

Speaker 5 (02:09:35):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (02:09:36):
That's his less than two?

Speaker 5 (02:09:36):
No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
Three runs in the win against Tampa Bay, one run
in the loss against Tampa Bay, no runs, and then
three runs. So six seven runs in the last run. Yeah,
seven runs the last four games.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
But in the last three games it's been one of
the days. They've scored four runs, correct, just one point
three runs a game in the last three games and
they've lost them all. Yep, there you go.

Speaker 4 (02:10:01):
Wow seven one, three two five steven nights. Take a
quick call before we get to break, John, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (02:10:11):
What didn't teach math?

Speaker 5 (02:10:14):
That did?

Speaker 1 (02:10:15):
Did they?

Speaker 6 (02:10:16):
How?

Speaker 5 (02:10:16):
How is my math being?

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:10:18):
I'm about to hang up on you, John. What's up
is that it's the soul.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
Ross State State State College.

Speaker 21 (02:10:27):
Their football field back in the day with a cow passion.

Speaker 5 (02:10:31):
What do you expect? John Thuring Alpine, Texas.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
Man st flowing from Johnny And.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
Actually they just dumped a bunch of money in it.
It's all turf.

Speaker 4 (02:10:39):
Now they got a brand new locker room, brand new
practice facility, and a brand new field. Jackson Field is
all turf. It's top of the line. D two baby
lone star conference.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
Here we come. Have they the tough? Did they name it?
Did they name it? Heat him in field? At States?

Speaker 5 (02:10:53):
They should? I don't know why they're not.

Speaker 3 (02:10:56):
They should.

Speaker 5 (02:10:56):
I don't even know. John, probably don't even know who
tough Eataman is?

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
No? I actually I do, Man, So No, you don't.

Speaker 5 (02:11:04):
Oh who is he?

Speaker 1 (02:11:06):
Bodacious? Bodacious? Rearranged that man's face?

Speaker 4 (02:11:09):
Whoa man put some respect on? Tough feat him and
he's tough?

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
Bodacious was tough? Yeah, exactly, everybody. Let's get back to
this Father's my forty five seconds. Yeah, if they don't
get through this series.

Speaker 4 (02:11:25):
John, can you speak up for a speak up? Like,
come closer to the phone?

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
Man, fun Sago Sun.

Speaker 4 (02:11:31):
Like you sound like you're you're in an elevator or
like a like a bathroom or something.

Speaker 5 (02:11:35):
You in your truck?

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Yeah, truck?

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
Okay, Well, come closer to the phone. Take us off
a car play? Do you even know what car play is?

Speaker 6 (02:11:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
I don't know what car plays? With my twenty two
year old probably does h I'm going over there, Clo.
There you go. Now you're close.

Speaker 5 (02:11:50):
There we go. Thanks John, appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
All right. Anyway, I pulled over. Anyway.

Speaker 21 (02:11:56):
Look, if they don't get through this series, I told
him last night and watching the game.

Speaker 5 (02:12:02):
You told the Astros that.

Speaker 20 (02:12:04):
No.

Speaker 21 (02:12:04):
I told the boys this, Okay, if they don't get
through this tonight and tomorrow night and the rest of
these it's just I don't know, man, it's over. They
will not even y'all keep you know last week when
you know World Series World, you know, y'all were bringing
up World Series for this, about this pitching and all this.

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
Dude, they're not even going to get out of the
damn division.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
They're not even gonna make it into the wild card.

Speaker 21 (02:12:26):
And if they do get lucky to make it by
the skin of their butts by the wild card, they
ain't getting out of the wildcard division. With the way
these bats are going. I mean, it's a bad time
to be slumping.

Speaker 1 (02:12:36):
And to be.

Speaker 21 (02:12:36):
Honest with you, I've said it all year long. There's
there's just something is missing. Yeah, they dug themselves out
of a ten game hole, but I mean, you know,
the pedro leone.

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
Look like doodoo last night. He need to go back
to Triple A and they can't. I don't know, man, It's.

Speaker 21 (02:12:59):
Just it's it's very very frustrating with them because and Presley,
I don't know what, dude, I've been saying it and
I'm gonna keep saying it.

Speaker 5 (02:13:08):
I don't know what crowd up that dude, but but.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
He needs to get over it. I mean.

Speaker 21 (02:13:14):
And then the boy last night he got pimped on
Smith's on run.

Speaker 1 (02:13:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
Yeah, ain't good.

Speaker 5 (02:13:24):
Boys, It's not good.

Speaker 6 (02:13:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:13:28):
I don't know what to tell you, Leana.

Speaker 5 (02:13:30):
No, John, I don't know, man.

Speaker 21 (02:13:32):
You need to go get a lift in maybe and
buy an extra large jacket and sent them a small jacket.

Speaker 4 (02:13:38):
I got a I got back, and by today you
coming because we know, damn well, you ain't gonna be
on any roofs.

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
I just meant I got off one.

Speaker 5 (02:13:47):
No you didn't, John.

Speaker 4 (02:13:48):
You probably got like a bunch of you know, a
bunch of young kids getting up on the roofs. You
probably bought them all the what do they call the
tiger paws or cougar paws. You probably bought them all
brand new cougar.

Speaker 1 (02:13:57):
Paws, tiger what is it? Tiger bee?

Speaker 5 (02:14:00):
Yeah? Man, you don't get up on a roof anymore.

Speaker 12 (02:14:03):
John, Oh yeah, dude, No.

Speaker 5 (02:14:06):
You ain't got a lie just because you're on air.
Stop it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:09):
You drive that damn you drive that truck with the
with the logo on it and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:14:14):
That's all you do. Man, You're just a walking marketing piece.

Speaker 1 (02:14:18):
That's it. Man. Yeah, I love John d Soul Russ
State Universe.

Speaker 4 (02:14:29):
Damn right, dude, how's he gonna Jackson Field? Jackson Fields
like a damn monument out there?

Speaker 1 (02:14:34):
Dog? Damn man? Do you guys have to line your
own fields when you were playing there?

Speaker 5 (02:14:39):
Bro legends?

Speaker 1 (02:14:40):
Maybe that's a lot of fields and add some overseed
you guys out their seat.

Speaker 5 (02:14:47):
A little bit of a little little winter rye.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
You know the reason why I'm saying, at my high school,
we did you bull driving, I'm telling you we did.
Finally they got turf after all those years. But yeah,
before we play out there lying in the field as
a summer project where you practice on it was funny,
but that's it's called different era and summer. Selling a
half a million dollars at their booster club big giveaway.
We're giving away a car by Booster Club. We were

(02:15:10):
giving away candy. Yeah for a buck. Okayny cups? Damn
right man, you'd eat one, and you'd eat one and
sell one and ask your mom and dad to cover
the one you ate that you weren't supposed to eat.

Speaker 4 (02:15:21):
So there you go, like clockwork man, the same thing.
Oh my god. And uh look Soul Ross State. Look,
they're going to open up at home. Lone Star Conference
play right out of the gate, hosting West Texas A
and M Baby. August twenty ninth is a Thursday night
game under the lights of Jackson Field.

Speaker 5 (02:15:40):
We are going to get our ass whooped.

Speaker 1 (02:15:43):
You'll be on in one, oh we will.

Speaker 5 (02:15:45):
We are going to get our blank kicked in well after.

Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
We open a season kick LSU's asked a couple of
what early September at SC. How do you like that?

Speaker 12 (02:15:53):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
After USC opens up a can on the LSU early, Dude,
I really don't believe that yet, So I can't pick
my Trojans and that one just yet. But we'll see
and deeseul Rough State's all I care about.

Speaker 4 (02:16:10):
We jump right into Division two lone Star Conference play
right out of the gate. It's twenty three days, eight
hours and forty three minutes away.

Speaker 1 (02:16:17):
Can't wait.

Speaker 4 (02:16:18):
Throw out all the record books. When they play West
Texas A and M God, they're going to kick our ass.

Speaker 1 (02:16:22):
No, but you do. You got to throw out all
the record books. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:16:25):
Hopefully that nil is. Hopefully that nil is starting to
kick in the for the lobos.

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Speaker 4 (02:18:06):
Little League World Series, might FM Kids The Little League
World Series might might be one of the worst the
youth baseball events of all time.

Speaker 1 (02:18:15):
Who's in it? Who's in it?

Speaker 4 (02:18:17):
It's not the actual Little League World Series yet, it's
like the Super Regionals or regionals. It's Salisbury, Maryland taking
on Newtown, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (02:18:25):
Oh you gotta go Salisbury, Maryland, don't you? Yeah, to
take on the namesake.

Speaker 4 (02:18:29):
I just really can't wait for ESPN to to shove
this fake sportsmanship bs down our throat while they have
youth coaches coaching in khakis and polos.

Speaker 1 (02:18:39):
Yeah, let's give me a twelve year old again, stupid. Yeah, guy,
Homer's off me. Next guy, I'm plucking, Yeah, exactly, ripe
shots these kids? Really? Yeah? Hey, oh that guy's crowding
the plate. Well, he's about to get some little chin music.

Speaker 5 (02:18:53):
I might get smoked.

Speaker 1 (02:18:55):
Yeah, then I'm gonna pump the throw upstairs. You know
from what a fifty five feet.

Speaker 4 (02:18:59):
No, it's closer than that. It's forty six feet Is
it really forty six feet sixty feet bases?

Speaker 1 (02:19:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:19:05):
Yeah, and play on two d foot fields.

Speaker 1 (02:19:08):
That's right, Well that part I do know. So they're
at forty six feet for these Little League Ye's pump
pumping butt up upstairs, little chip music. They come back
and Uncle Charlie is ass You know what I'm saying,
a little hook yeah, then rig his ass up? Yeah,
or empty benches, Yeah, yeah, I said it. I said
thees brought the yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:19:28):
Or what we see or what we see in in uh,
what is it? Williamsport is when you know a kid
hits up, it's you know, it's like one of these
kids that like stands like five foot eleven, hits a
ball three hundred feet over the little little little baby
gap field two hundred and twenty five feet and uh,
the shortstop meets him at second base to shake his
hand and give him hug because he just hit a
home run off of him, because we're just so big

(02:19:49):
on sportsmanship.

Speaker 1 (02:19:50):
Yeah, we just got walked off, bitch, We just got
walked off in a Little League World Series. And I'm
high five yeah my pitcher, right your ass back to
shortstop and quit that mean shake hands and shake hands
after shake hand, that's all, that's all. That's fair. Shake hands.
Guy gets guy goes down slides and it hurts himself.
You'd be right there for But I don't need to
high five you after you went, you know, with uh

(02:20:12):
upper tank on my pitcher in the Little League World
Series in Williams Sports.

Speaker 4 (02:20:15):
Right, okay, as your as your as your dad is
the head coach rocking uh dockers with uh with with
some grass grippers and a college shirt tucked in Mike
dump and he can't even cuss.

Speaker 1 (02:20:30):
Right right, coming back, some cheese upstairs next time. Man,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:20:36):
You know, I used to be a huge, huge fan
of watching the Little League World Series. I really did.
I loved it. We were so close when I was
twelve to making it.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:20:45):
But now I feel like since ESPN has signed the
contract to disciplin you know, to to uh broadcast they
got the broadcast rights, they just shoved this. This this
fake sportsmanship. Oh everybody gets a trophy bs. Oh look out,
these kids are blah blah blah. At the end of
the day, it's still competition. I might I'd probably get
crushed for my opinion on this, but the Little League

(02:21:06):
World Series sucks.

Speaker 5 (02:21:07):
Now well it's like it is. It sucks.

Speaker 1 (02:21:10):
I'm not crushing your opinion. They're old enough to understand competition.
Only the champion gets the trophy. And if they're not,
and you're right to. What we've done is we've put
a governor on it.

Speaker 5 (02:21:19):
Yeah, it's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (02:21:20):
Put a governor on it. They've the TV coverage and
make it all instead of down and dirty, and I
mean dirty, play down and dirty, get after it. You're
you're not telling me that these twelve year olds don't
kid that they want to high five a guy who
just homere it off them to beat him. Right. I
understand after you hug a guy in the line, who
I mean, come on, man, But once you're in between
the lines, yeah, and please don't. And when I hear

(02:21:43):
people say, well, they're just kids being kids. Yet during
the when they're away from their Little League All Star team,
they're in every select league spending twenty five thousand bucks
a year going to the top camps because it's competitive, right, Yeah,
you want to go to the best. But see, to me,
the Little League World Series is like represent your country
in the Olympics on it. You get my point. I
like the sport you because you know when there's more

(02:22:05):
than one team that represents. But hell, that's got to
be one of the My brother play in the Little
League World Series. I was at the West my freshman
year at the Western Regional final in rivers In Riverside,
coach Robinson gave me the night off my freshman year.
We're about two weeks in the camp and he gave
me the night off. H to drive to to like
the Riverside area. I have to go to the meetings

(02:22:27):
to watch my uh my kid brother who played pitch,
played shortstop, and you know, it was awesome and to
be in person there and it was packed and I'll
never forget it. And they he got the he drove in,
he closed out the game and got the winning He
hit the base hit and drove in the winning run.

Speaker 5 (02:22:43):
That's pretty cool, my brother.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
And yeah, he drove in the winning run. And he
was a great baseball player. And then they went to
Williamsport and I'll never forget the radio broadcast of that.
Like Siles had to play base hit in the center field.
I'm asking, you know, rounding Frank Escalane, I know the name,
like he was, he was my brother's teammate, rounding third.
There'll be no play at the plate. Escondido is going
to Williamsport and I remember the pride. I'm like, this

(02:23:07):
is so freaking awesome because my all star team never
made it to Williamsport, but his did and he was
a great player and they were loaded with a phenomenal team.
But that was I mean, they were competing. You know.
You know, you didn't the guy didn't hug my brother
that drove in the walk off base hit to win
the Little League to go to the World Series. He
didn't high five him as he was rounding the bases

(02:23:29):
watching the play at the plate. Okay, he wanted to
beat his brains, you know what I'm saying. Then they hugged,
you know, they shake hands after. But I'm with you,
you can't. I mean, sportsmanship is important, but the competitive
parts there, you got to be able to You got
to be able to deal with that part of it, man, Yeah,
because everybody doesn't get a trophy. It's not like that.
If you're going to play in it, you got to
understand that a bunch of teams are going home disappointed

(02:23:51):
and crying in the tears. Good sportsmanship's great, Like when
a guy I've seen it where a guy plucked the
guy and hit him and hurt him, and then the
guy thought he was hurt. Yeah, and then the player
came over said, man, it's gonna be okay. I don't
have problem with that.

Speaker 5 (02:24:03):
I don't either that kid.

Speaker 1 (02:24:04):
It's self worth, self esteem. The kid's probably you know,
losing it thinking, man, I don't mean to hurt this guy,
and he didn't. But when I got Homer's off you,
you don't need to run off the mounta and go
high five or run off second base. You can do
that after the game. Tap him up. Then sportsmanships everything.
But you know what, don't tell me winnings not to
these kids doesn't mean everything as well, because it's a
situation they'll never forget. So if you're never gonna forget it,

(02:24:27):
please don't tell me that the positive effect of winning
isn't good. It is. I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (02:24:33):
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Speaker 3 (02:25:55):
For The Sean Salisbury Show continues, Rick, welcome man, Good.

Speaker 15 (02:26:00):
Morning, Good morning guys.

Speaker 5 (02:26:02):
How y'all doing fantastic? Man, what's going on?

Speaker 15 (02:26:05):
Well, I'm just gonna want to chime in a little
bit on this, I guess workmanship or whatever. Considering that,
I guess appreciation trophies. They've got to kind of get
rid of that, because that's not how life is, you know,
America fail.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
Yes, you got to realize and.

Speaker 15 (02:26:21):
Listen, there's a winner as a loser. I mean, you
got to keep trying.

Speaker 14 (02:26:25):
You've got to keep trying, but yet not everyone can win.
I eventually you've got to realize that we're not all
equal winners, and there are people who just aren't quite
there yet. I mean, there's a good movie that came
out in the He's the Bad News there. I think
every kid should watch that movie, to be honest. And
I know it's got some bulgar language, has some drinking,
and you know, no seatbelts, but.

Speaker 15 (02:26:47):
That's just how life was back in the steps.

Speaker 1 (02:26:49):
You know, it's called history, my man, We've got to
learn history. Yeah, good call, right, Agree, with you, Rick,
it is. It's his when people, well, we're teaching kids
not recipus. Well, if you're dumb enough at home to
have a nine year old to sitting there and says, well,
they we're in seavesons I don't have to and don't
say because they didn't have to, then they've changed it

(02:27:09):
to be more safe, and we wear them. That's the
end of that conversation. Right, Yeah, so RIX won RIX
one hundred percent correct. It is in real life. That's
why I always and we joke about it, and it's sportsmanship,
but real let me ask you this in truth, is
sportsmanship the number one thing you're trying to teach your
kid how to lose well? I mean we did winning
well and losing well are the center standing. No.

Speaker 4 (02:27:31):
The number one thing that I try to teach the
kids that I coach, and I've been coaching for fourteen
years now, and the thing that I try to teach
them is that how they deal with failure because failure
in baseball is so prominent that kids are so scared
to fail. The biggest thing that I learned from playing
baseball into the college game and all through college is
that failing is not just in baseball, it's in everyday life.

(02:27:54):
The sooner you can handle failure in your everyday life,
the better man you're going to be, the better boyfriend,
the better husband, the better son. And for the flip
side of it, as a female, that is why I
try to teach my kids that I coach how to
deal with failure in baseball is a game of failure.
Just sports in general, You're gonna fail and you learn

(02:28:15):
the most about yourself when you fail. And Sean, I
know you can attest to that personally, just like I can.

Speaker 5 (02:28:20):
You hit your rock bottom? I hit my rock bottom,
and I.

Speaker 4 (02:28:22):
Can guarantee you if I were to say, Sean, failing
in sports, did it help you fail in real life?
Did it help you? Did it help you get through
that rock bottom?

Speaker 1 (02:28:31):
Yeah? Oh there is no question. I can tell you this.
I know every step of the fail when I was
hitting my rock bottom. I know every step of what
it was like entering rock bottom and what it was
like coming out of rock bottom. If you asked me Sean, well,
how far was the touchdown pass you through against green Bay?
That against Farv in green Bay when you beat him

(02:28:53):
at home? I know we beat him. Threw a touchdown
past a couple of them. I can't tell you the
distance or when it what part of the game had
happened right now, I didn't care. Yeah, I know you
think I'm kidding.

Speaker 4 (02:29:03):
And you know because your failures more than you write
your successes, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (02:29:08):
Oh yeah, I remember that play. We want to hit
that guy. Yeah, But I'll tell you what I do
remember more in that game is when I had a
guy wide open on a corner route and threw it
out of the back of the N zone or whatever. Right,
same thing in life. But it's not just sports. Well,
it's a direct parallel is while sport. Listen, when we
say this, people don't get well you don't care about sportsmanship.
Of course I do. But you know so that's part

(02:29:28):
of self esteem. How you feel well, it's a sportsmanship
when you're treating somebody poorly as it's you know that
that's a reflection of you and how you go, how
you see yourself. We all do it. Listen, how many
of us out there haven't been a spoiled loser at
some point? Everybody and an arrogant prick as a winner.
We've all had that. In The key is it's not
only to lose good, but to win good, meaning be

(02:29:49):
a respectful winner, respect, teach respect, and yes, because life, listen, failures,
it's not a life sentence. But I can tell you this,
it's going to be around your whole life. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 5 (02:29:59):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
Just because you fail doesn't mean that it's a life
sense for you that you're going to fail at it
every time. But like I said, if you had failure
at twenty five, you're gonna have failure at fifty five.
Somewhere along the line. Let's hope you only go through
rock bottom once or if you're fortunate never do have
hit it. Whatever that rock bottom is, you're gonna lose
a parent. That can be rock bottom for somebody, whatever
it is. But the failure part of it. And I

(02:30:20):
think we're doing a disservice by giving eighteen trophies. Well,
we don't want the kids self worth. Then you know what,
the parents better ramp it up a little bit, or
whoever their mentor is, ramp up their leadership and their
self esteem building in the home. Because of me getting
beat in a game ruins my self esteem at twelve,
then then we're not doing it right in our house.

(02:30:42):
We'll all. But what it does is but if it
pisses you off or gets you to the points that
I got to work better, smarter, harder, I got to
learn from that guy who just beat me, then we
get better. It's those who can't take the criticism and
the failure or don't apply it. So yeah, I mean,
there's so many different ways to look at it. So
when we say and our caller was great, he's exactly

(02:31:02):
right when we say that sportsmanship f them kids joking around,
But sportsmanship will important. But what I want to teach
him more is sportsmanship. I'll tell you what. It's a
lot easier to be a good sport than it is
to deal with failure. Yeah, I can type. I can
tell because you can put on that happy face even
if you don't mean it. They smile about it and
you go home and you're grinding over that failure. Now,

(02:31:24):
if you get over failure quickly, we all need that
trait and could apply it and add it to your life.
But I don't. I don't see why getting a ten
year old's not allowed to get beat, or a seven
year old is not allowed to get beat and have
a coach explained to them. Yes, we do keep score.
Everybody did great. We're gonna work to get better. But
now we want to be better, right boom, Just like
TV you see it in movies, cartoons were working to

(02:31:45):
be better. And the only way to get better is
to know where your floor and your ceiling is. And
hopefully you don't have a ceiling, but to understand where
your floor is, because you're gonna get knocked down and
you to punch in the face just as much as
you're gonna punch you punch, not literally, but win. Losses
are a regular thing in life, and I'm not sure
that some generations are some people in those generations and
all generations don't how to handle them. Because it's one

(02:32:07):
thing to protect your kids, it's another thing to coddle
them and prevent them from having to deal with what's inevitable. Yeah,
that punch to the face.

Speaker 5 (02:32:15):
Yeah that's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (02:32:16):
That's what bothers me the most about, just in specifics
like the Little League World Series and like what we
see on ESPN and things like that. With this tournament,
like last year, I don't know if you remember this,
Sean or not, there was a situation I can't remember
exactly what it was. But a player got hit by
a pitch. He was hurt a little bit, started walking
towards first base, was fine, and then the kid that
was pitching was like hysterically crying, ran over and gave

(02:32:38):
him a hug.

Speaker 5 (02:32:39):
That's not real life.

Speaker 4 (02:32:40):
As soon as these kids leave twelve, you they go
from these baby gap fields straight to the big field
and then you're on sixty ninety for the rest of
your career. If you're lucky enough to make the high
school team and if you're even more lucky to get
to the college level.

Speaker 5 (02:32:54):
That's not real life.

Speaker 4 (02:32:55):
You're not going to be coddled every time you get
hit by a pitch and it's on Fulda and you're like, oh,
look at those sports Pacific strict and these kids. No, no,
you take your lick and you get down the first base,
you'll go hug him.

Speaker 5 (02:33:07):
That's not real life.

Speaker 1 (02:33:09):
Here's why, you know the non real life and some
of the coverage of these games is fake that they've
it's manufactured. Not the kids. I'm talking about how they
cover it. Oh, it's all about you know, the walk
off home run and you're hugging the guy who homered
off you that kind of stuff. While he's hugging the bases,
you're thumbing him up like nice. Yeah, no, no, no,
is that when we'll show the kid crying and the

(02:33:32):
dugout after a game losing, right, Yes, I mean they'll
show tears running down the kid's face and we're ok
and we're supposed to be okay with that, which we are.
I mean it's emotional. But the other side, when the
kid's over there and he's pissed and you see his lips,
I mean he's at twelve years old. Well, we're not
allowed to do that. That's not a good sport. What
that's called. Somebody who understands has been taught that, Yes,
what are you gonna do to get better? You just

(02:33:54):
you got beat and feel bad for you. Got to
regroup because you're gonna get beat. You're gonna lose out
to sale, You're gonna lose out on something. And I
can tell you think about some of the things you
learned as a young kid did apply today and stuff
you didn't learn that you wish you would have. You
still think about him, I do, and I was all
shaped and about the first one dozen years of your life. Yes,

(02:34:15):
there you go there, you.

Speaker 5 (02:34:17):
Go, coach said.

Speaker 4 (02:34:18):
Coach Mike and Coach Billy were hard asses on us.

Speaker 5 (02:34:21):
They didn't coddle us.

Speaker 4 (02:34:22):
They used to tell us, if you don't like to
go sit in the trucke.

Speaker 1 (02:34:26):
Yeah, self esteem builders but reality but also uh, reality
teachers as well. And you can do both. You can
build self esteem and let them know that reality kicks in.
Because the greatest athletes in the world at some point
Tom Tom Brady was totally one, very good, like one
hundred and ninety nine times. Yes, I'm just using him
as an example. So you know, I I to me

(02:34:48):
a punch to the face, you know, a little tooth loose,
not literally but figuratively. Ain't nothing wrong with that. But
if you haven't, if you haven't taught him how to
deal with it, and then it's okay to get beat.
It's not a life sentence that you can come back
and you can win the next time, then we're doing
them a disservice. But we'll show the tears, but we
won't show a kid under his breath dropping an F
bomb because that's pors sportsmanship. No, it's called understanding, competitiveness,
wanting to win, and that's real life problem with it.

Speaker 5 (02:35:10):
Twelve year old kids.

Speaker 4 (02:35:11):
I could promise you twelve you kids when they're frustrated,
they cuss like kids.

Speaker 5 (02:35:15):
It's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:35:16):
Oh well yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (02:35:18):
You discipline them, you tell them not to do it,
they're still gonna do it because they're twelve, twelve year
old kids and they're in a competitive sports world.

Speaker 5 (02:35:24):
It happens. It's real life.

Speaker 1 (02:35:26):
And I'm not mad at a twelve year old who
cusses into his glove that nobody sees.

Speaker 3 (02:35:30):
That's exactly well, Hey.

Speaker 1 (02:35:31):
You know what you're gonna be. Okay, you ain't going
to hell for dropping an F bomb, but I'm not
encouraging it. But you just got to be Some sportsmanship matters,
but so does learning how to be competitive and fail
and succeed.

Speaker 5 (02:35:41):
Absolutely.

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Speaker 5 (02:37:02):
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Long time?

Speaker 22 (02:37:06):
I know I've been missing out, but I was just
gonna quick humble brag. And you guys are talking about
the Little League World Series. But I was on the
two thousand Belair Little League team, and you know, little
League used to be like what you wanted to do?
Play little League, try to get to the World Series,
blah blah blah blah blah. But nowadays, and I used
to not like pay to play what you do, Brian,

(02:37:28):
like a select ball.

Speaker 1 (02:37:30):
Yep.

Speaker 22 (02:37:30):
And I think it's been the guard has changed. It's
little League has been so woosified. And it hurts me
to watch the Little League World Series and all that
stuff because we didn't do that. We didn't shake hands,
you know, twenty four years ago. And needless to say,
I peaked when I was twelve, but you know it,
the entire scope of Little League baseball makes me not

(02:37:54):
like I always thought, Hey, when I have a son,
I'm gonna put him in little league baseball and we're
gonna go back to the World Series. No, I think
the guard has changed. And what you do, Brian, is
you're actually teaching these kids. You know what failure is
about winning and failure is about and I just think it's, uh,
it's it's tough to watch. It's a tough watch. You

(02:38:14):
kind of struck a nerve when you said I hate
the Little League World Series, but you made a point.
It's the Little League World Series nowadays.

Speaker 4 (02:38:21):
Yes, the problem because I'm the same with you, Terrence.
We grew up playing little league baseball. First, we didn't
have select baseball. We played against Paul gold Schmid, We
played against Kyle Dreyback. We can go on, Danny Amadola
like you can go on and on. Those dudes played
little league first, then the league baseball.

Speaker 3 (02:38:37):
The patch on your left shoulder, your mom turned.

Speaker 1 (02:38:40):
It on and it was awesome.

Speaker 22 (02:38:42):
And and you know what, our dad, my dad was
the head coach of our you know, world team. We
won the United States Championship. My dad was the coach.
But you know what, my dad was.

Speaker 1 (02:38:52):
Not that that dad. Yes, he had the khakis.

Speaker 22 (02:38:55):
And the polo, but but it wasn't you know, it
wasn't the what'sification of America that it is today.

Speaker 1 (02:39:03):
You know what select ball was, Yeah, select ball when
we were growing up a little older and you guys,
select ball was the all star team.

Speaker 5 (02:39:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:39:11):
That you play your little league, you play your little
league All Star and you were and you were busting.
You're asked to win your little league championship. And then
at the end of the little league championship, they'd choose
the twenty guys or however many they choose from all
the best players, and you'd get a couple weeks of
practice together before you started, and that was your select
reward Olympics. That was it. That was it. You didn't

(02:39:32):
you didn't We weren't doing. Now it's got to the
point how kids got to the point where guys will
be playing travel ball and won't play high school ball.
I could never imagine taking a select and I know
it's changed. I'm talking about it. My time. It was
all about you couldn't wait to get the hig school
play high school. There's you know, we've gotten to the
point now where it's like I'm just gonna go with
the bet, we're gonna travel over and play the best.
And I get it, that's how it switched. But the

(02:39:52):
Little League Baseball that I knew was the travel elite
of the elite, and you did it in the summer
after year. You wanted to win your Little League trench championship,
and then you would with your chest would be out.
And then they take the best and they put the
uniforms together and the best of the best from all
the teams. That was that. That was your that was
your uh, your Olympics, that would that, that was our
that was our select team, that all start traveling team.

Speaker 22 (02:40:16):
And nowadays everybody thinks, oh, my son's gonna go to
the Little League World Shoots.

Speaker 1 (02:40:20):
But no, it's not. That's not how it goes. We
got to play little league. But now it's changed.

Speaker 5 (02:40:25):
The guard has changed.

Speaker 22 (02:40:27):
And I like what Brian, everything you say about how
you coach your kids, I coached a little bit. But
that's that's what it's about. And the dad, what it
is is the raising of the kids and the parenting.

Speaker 15 (02:40:38):
These days, they don't raise their kids to.

Speaker 1 (02:40:40):
Learn how to fail and win.

Speaker 22 (02:40:42):
And the the whole optic of ESPN on the Little
League World Series is making people not want to be
a part of it, because it it really is just
a what'sification.

Speaker 1 (02:40:52):
Of America and I don't like it. So I'm I'm gonna.

Speaker 22 (02:40:56):
Be more of a little league travel ball guy, like
start little and then get into the travel ball step.

Speaker 5 (02:41:02):
There you go. You go appreciate it, Terrence.

Speaker 1 (02:41:04):
You know, and Terrence, thank you to love you too. Man.
It's true, and we do the same thing. And with
the you know, you're hitting is mostly failure in baseball
and football. And my quarterback looks good in a pair
of shorts and a T shirt, but I can't put
him under the rest and tell them when you throw
a pick, what are you going to do next? Yeah,
if I got to, if I've got to sugarcoat that,
then he should take two weeks off and play a

(02:41:25):
different sport in a different position. Because if you can't
handle the failure, I guarantee you you're not gonna see
much of the success. It is brutally hard to be
a high level athlete. And if all you want to
do is be an average one, that's cool. But I'm
not gonna coach you or teach you to average. You
get to choose if you want to be average. I'm
gonna teach, and then you're gonna have respect and try
to go kick ass and do it the right way.
But understand learning and getting your ass kicked as part

(02:41:48):
of it. You just don't want to do it very often.
That's a fact.

Speaker 5 (02:41:50):
Do the Astros win tonight, Sean.

Speaker 1 (02:41:54):
Uh Frober's been going good. Yeah, they even the series tonight,
but it's a tough one late not an early one
late win.

Speaker 5 (02:42:01):
I'm saying from rise of Meltdown, they don't win.

Speaker 1 (02:42:04):
Oh well, thanks Race. We'll come back and talk about
it tomorrow and talk to Dane about it. That'd be great.

Speaker 4 (02:42:09):
We do have Dana Brown, the Ashwros and our manager.
He joins us tomorrow at nine thirty. That's gonna do it.
He is Sean Salisbury, our producer Triple Emmanuel Elmore. I
am Brian Lima. Thank you for listening. We're back tomorrow
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