August 28, 2024 • 14 mins
Following their loss to the Red Sox, followed by a series tie against the Orioles, the Astros are still out front leading the AL West Division. Astros GM Dana Brown joins and shares his thoughts on Verlanders return and their tough stretch here approaching the last thirty games of the season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, I asked those GM for his weekly visit nine
thirty on Wednesdays. The first place, Houston Nation was three
and a half in front. I know that's a music
to all our ears. We've got to continue this grind. Dana,
welcome in. Let me start with Verlander. After two starts,
give me your Baseball Inside analysts about analysis about his
performance and how you'd break it down.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I would say, you know, the first outing was
a little better than the second one. The second one
he made one bad pitch that was the breaking ball
that Castiano's hit out, But overall, he showed the arm strength,
the ability to execute his secondary stuff at times, and
(00:47):
so you know, ultimately, I'm very pleased that he's back
and he's starting to really fill it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Dana, this may sound odd, but we were talking on
this show about Verlander and about how great he's been
a first ballot Hall of Fame career. But when it
gets down to the season goes along like he's pitching
now and coming back from this rehab and getting back
after this injury, when you make decisions on you know,
like postseason and win to pitch, a guy does Lifetime
Achievement Award, how good he's been, trump where he is now?
(01:18):
Do you kind of factor them both in experience in
the postseason, like in a big game, if you had
two guys available and you said we're going with Verlander,
Does lifetime achievement and experience and past have something to
do with that on the decision?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, I think it's a combination of a few things.
You know, it's current ability to execute stuff, how good
is your stuff? And can you get guys out right?
And I think he can do all of those things.
And so you know, if you can't execute pitches, if
your stuff is down, if you're you know, if you're
(01:55):
a Hall of Famer, it's still going to be tough,
you know, to make posts and rosters and different things
like that. I remember, you know, when I was in Toronto,
we had to left I forget his name. He didn't
make the postseason team, but he was really good at
left handed pitcher pitch steers in Chicago. That one stands
(02:16):
out for me. But ultimately, you know, sometimes guys don't
make it, but it's usually when the stuff is way
down and they can't execute pitches anymore. I don't see
that's the case for Verlander at all.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Dana, do you how much weight does experience over production
while it's going on, Meaning like if a rookie or
a Renel Blanc who's third, he pitched a lot of
baseball but hasn't been out there spinning the ball in
postseason or in like a single elimination type moment in
YOURMA just for you as a as a front office guy,
(02:50):
and has been great in scouting people and you're the GM,
how often in your mind does experience or lack thereof
trump the other one production over experience or basically, does
it make you cringe to start a guy in the
postseason that may not have postseason experience.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
No, it wouldn't make me cringe. You know, if you
have a big time frontline guy with power stuff and
he doesn't have any experience in the postseason, you know
I would say, look, ultimately, you know this guy can
if he has really good stuff, he can execute his pitches.
(03:29):
You know, you know he's got a chance to start.
You know, But trying to stay away from all of
the hypotheticals, but ultimately, for a guy to pitch in
the postseason, you want him to have pretty good stuff
in the ability to execute. And sometimes you may have
a veteran guy, sometimes you may have a rookie and
you may roll with it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Familiarity matters too.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You bring in Jason Hayward, I mean you're obviously familiar
with him. A guy who's got experience, can play corner outfields,
DH and I'm not telling you anything, don't know for
the people who are listening. And a guy who's got
postseason experience. So what was the major factor in bringing
Jason Hayward to Houston.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Well, as it relates to Hayward, Hayward's is he's a
free agent. So I'm not able to really discuss, you know,
Hayward right now. But ultimately, you know, we we feel
like we could use some more offense, and so you know,
we are in the grind and so hopefully, you know,
we can we can get that done. In the future,
(04:32):
we could try to figure out who we can bring in.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What are his strengths, just as an overall player, whose
strengths Haywards?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Hayward. You know, he's he's had
a long time career. He executed well last year, you know,
decent this year versus writings and so ultimately, you know,
a guy like Hayward, he's got talent still and then
and not to mention the postseason experience and things like that.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Fair enough.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Data Brown Astros GM joined us here for his weekly
nine to thirty visit Data. You mentioned runs. Concerned about
offensive production and slugging right now, Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Think our guys, you know, we hit this downward slope
over the last few games. You know, we we haven't
been able to really come through with the big hits.
And so I mean, ultimately, I like where our guys
are in terms of, Look, we've fought through this, We've
shown grit. You know, we've got gamers on this team.
(05:41):
But you know, this road trip, we haven't been able
to get the big hit, you know, and put some
runs on the board. And so you know, that little
struggle has cost us a couple of games. But you know,
ultimately we're still three and a half up with thirty
to go, and you know, the boys are play well.
(06:01):
You know, we did hit a bump there offensively, and
we hit a little bit of a bump defensively as well.
But ultimately, I'm very proud of the guys. These guys
are grinding through it, and it's a long season, and
you know, I think we're in a good spot, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
How long in a perfect world, meaning these last thirty games,
how long do you go with the six man rotation?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, I just think the six man rotation definitely through
this stretch of eighteen games for sure that we have
and then we'll circle back after this and see where
do we go from here. I think having a six
man rotation at this point in the season, it really
gives our guys that extra day to get a little
(06:47):
bit of a breather. And I think when every each
one of these guys when they go out, we have
an opportunity to win those ball games. So when you
can run out six quality these starters that are going
to give you pretty good starts and give you a
chance to win the game, I think that's a good
thing this late in the season. And I think it
(07:08):
really gives your guys that extra day of rest where
you've got a chance to really power through this.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Dan to take me through I'm OCD when it comes
like the preparation and the like the routine doing the
same thing and leading up to a game, and you've
been in baseball solong seeing them as well with that
six n rotation. Is there any I don't know offset
to the some of these players like to know that
fifth day. Here's what I'm starting. I like my routine.
I don't like it disrupted.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Can that be? Is there any part to that or
is it? Rest is far.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
More important than routine for players pitchers, especially at this
point in the season.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think this point in the season, that extra day
of rest is welcomed by most starters around the game.
And so as I've always said, you know, guys try
to get you know, close at possible to third starts
each year, and honestly, these starts they wear you down
and it's a grind. And so anytime you can get
(08:07):
an extra day's rest and it doesn't cost you games,
I think that's that's a good thing. The routine is, Hey,
I'm going to throw every five or six days. I mean,
that's still a pretty good routine, right, It's just adding that.
It's just adding that extra day, which gives you know,
the guy a little bit more zip on his stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Astro GM Dana Brown for a few more minutes here
on his weekly nine to thirty visit on Sports Talk
seven to ninety. All right, let me get to the starters,
the everyday player. Thirty games to go. You mentioned that
it's a season of marathon, but we're at that sprint
part now, staving off Seattle and whoever else? Were you
meaning you guys at Houston Astros. So I'll ask you this,
Are we expecting minimal rest from the everyday players?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Is it show up? Not even have to look at
the lineup card because you know you're in it. How
do you approach at the last thirty games?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I mean that's a Joe question, but I would
think that, you know, we're going to have our better
guys in there for the most part every day. I
think we were able to give some guys a little
bit of a breather during this stretch of eighteen. I
thought that was important. But it's pretty much go time
with thirty to go and three and a half up,
(09:21):
and so I would expect, you know, guys are going
to be in the grind every day, the better players
for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Dana with with the Kyle Tucker stuff, just like trying
to figure out math. I know there's no exact timeframe,
but we talk about labor days coming through. No minor
league assignment. He's sprinting now, and I think Joe said
fifty to sixty percent of his max sprint, so he
sees that. And you've talked about batting practice and the
rest of it. So I'll ask you where's the optimism
(09:48):
or we're the realistic part of because if he comes
back and you say six seven, five games at minor league,
I mean, are we looking at mid to late September now,
because there's there's no way it's happened in the first
week of September.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
No, I'm still optimistic about you know, him coming back
within the first ten days of September. So I think he's,
you know, getting at least I think it's closer to
sixty seventy back in terms of full sprint, So it's
somewhere in that area. Maybe he has one or two
(10:22):
sprints where it looks really good, but he's pretty much
sprinting now. I've always said that this is the type
of injury that once you start to feel better, it'll
come quick and it's going to be more about getting
the legs in shape, running bases, that type of thing,
because the swing gets the swing and once he gets
(10:44):
his legs in shape, it's going to be go time.
So I'm still optimistic about it being before the.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Tenth through that pain threshold.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Real quick about this data is is there a difference
for him and the pain from straight line running as
a posed to putting your foot into second base and
getting the third on a you know, on on a
base hitt in the corner to right, if you're the
guy on first base or you're you're turning your your
heading into the gap and you got to dive. Is
the lateral movement of problem or is the pain threshold
saying both ways?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think the pain threasholds the same both ways. He's
just a little bit discomfort now, so he's he's getting
through the pain threshold. You know, just as an athlete,
it's easier to sprint straight.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Oh yeah, just for.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Sure stuff you know, when you when you have to
when you have to make a cut or a turn
of a base or anything like that, that's going to
be more difficult, you know, whether you're one hundred percent
or fifty percent. So ultimately I think that you know,
the pain, the discomfort or whatever you want to call it,
it's it's minimum now. And so you can see that
(11:54):
and it's sprints. He's cutting through cones and doing things
like that right now. And so he's he's just about back,
And I mean I feel good about it. Like I said,
you know, we get him out and get him on
some type of rehab and get him in there as
quickly as we can. Uh. And I've always said, this
(12:14):
thing's gonna go quick once he feels better.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Any Hunter idea on September call ups or the process
you're going to go through to bring the couple players up?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Who that might be.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, when we get home, we're going to talk about it.
So you know, we we've discussed it some, but we
really have to get into the grit and the grind
of it, you know, to figure out who we're going
to call up, what positions we feel like we need
a little bit more depth and and so we're going
to have those discussions when we get back to Houston.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Let me ask you this before you go. Are you
more comfortable depth wise right now? Or more secure in
the outfield or the infield?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah? I mean death wise. You know, I feel good
about both. But uh, you know, once we get.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Tucker back, of course, right obviously have Tucker.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Back, Yeah, I feel good about both. But right now,
as it stands, I feel better about the infield. But
when we'll get Tucker back, I'll feel a whole lot better,
you know about the outfield.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, and everybody will be able to take a deep
sigh and say, Okay, this star is back. That'll be
nice and great news. And hopefully we'll get that by
this time next week, Dana. Hopefully it'll be like, Okay,
a couple more starts in the minor leagues and we're
ready to get him up here and get going. That'll
be great. Good luck in Philly today, big one, and uh,
this could be a rematch of what we all hope
for come you know, October. We look forward to it
(13:33):
and great stuff, and we'll talk to you next Wednesday, Dana,
and happy labor.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
They enjoy the weekend, man.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All right, I appreciate you guys. And once we get
all players back and we get on all so there's
it's go time, and we got a chance to really
put some space in between first and checking place.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Better to be up by three, better to be up
by three and a half than down by three and
a half. Good on you. We'll look forward to talking
to you next week. Thanks hey man, Bro, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, that's data Brown Astros GM. We'll come back and
discuss it and finish up and interesting. They're a hard
belief and I mean hardcore and Kyle Tucker being in
before the fifteenth, right, I hope that. I hope he's
around it. I hope he's right. I hope he's right.
We'll talk and get back Sports Talk seven ninety
The Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, I asked those GM for his weekly visit nine
thirty on Wednesdays. The first place, Houston Nation was three
and a half in front. I know that's a music
to all our ears. We've got to continue this grind. Dana,
welcome in. Let me start with Verlander. After two starts,
give me your Baseball Inside analysts about analysis about his
performance and how you'd break it down.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I would say, you know, the first outing was
a little better than the second one. The second one
he made one bad pitch that was the breaking ball
that Castiano's hit out, But overall, he showed the arm strength,
the ability to execute his secondary stuff at times, and
(00:47):
so you know, ultimately, I'm very pleased that he's back
and he's starting to really fill it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Dana, this may sound odd, but we were talking on
this show about Verlander and about how great he's been
a first ballot Hall of Fame career. But when it
gets down to the season goes along like he's pitching
now and coming back from this rehab and getting back
after this injury, when you make decisions on you know,
like postseason and win to pitch, a guy does Lifetime
Achievement Award, how good he's been, trump where he is now?
(01:18):
Do you kind of factor them both in experience in
the postseason, like in a big game, if you had
two guys available and you said we're going with Verlander,
Does lifetime achievement and experience and past have something to
do with that on the decision?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, I think it's a combination of a few things.
You know, it's current ability to execute stuff, how good
is your stuff? And can you get guys out right?
And I think he can do all of those things.
And so you know, if you can't execute pitches, if
your stuff is down, if you're you know, if you're
(01:55):
a Hall of Famer, it's still going to be tough,
you know, to make posts and rosters and different things
like that. I remember, you know, when I was in Toronto,
we had to left I forget his name. He didn't
make the postseason team, but he was really good at
left handed pitcher pitch steers in Chicago. That one stands
(02:16):
out for me. But ultimately, you know, sometimes guys don't
make it, but it's usually when the stuff is way
down and they can't execute pitches anymore. I don't see
that's the case for Verlander at all.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Dana, do you how much weight does experience over production
while it's going on, Meaning like if a rookie or
a Renel Blanc who's third, he pitched a lot of
baseball but hasn't been out there spinning the ball in
postseason or in like a single elimination type moment in
YOURMA just for you as a as a front office guy,
(02:50):
and has been great in scouting people and you're the GM,
how often in your mind does experience or lack thereof
trump the other one production over experience or basically, does
it make you cringe to start a guy in the
postseason that may not have postseason experience.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
No, it wouldn't make me cringe. You know, if you
have a big time frontline guy with power stuff and
he doesn't have any experience in the postseason, you know
I would say, look, ultimately, you know this guy can
if he has really good stuff, he can execute his pitches.
(03:29):
You know, you know he's got a chance to start.
You know, But trying to stay away from all of
the hypotheticals, but ultimately, for a guy to pitch in
the postseason, you want him to have pretty good stuff
in the ability to execute. And sometimes you may have
a veteran guy, sometimes you may have a rookie and
you may roll with it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Familiarity matters too.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You bring in Jason Hayward, I mean you're obviously familiar
with him. A guy who's got experience, can play corner outfields,
DH and I'm not telling you anything, don't know for
the people who are listening. And a guy who's got
postseason experience. So what was the major factor in bringing
Jason Hayward to Houston.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Well, as it relates to Hayward, Hayward's is he's a
free agent. So I'm not able to really discuss, you know,
Hayward right now. But ultimately, you know, we we feel
like we could use some more offense, and so you know,
we are in the grind and so hopefully, you know,
we can we can get that done. In the future,
(04:32):
we could try to figure out who we can bring in.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What are his strengths, just as an overall player, whose
strengths Haywards?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Hayward. You know, he's he's had
a long time career. He executed well last year, you know,
decent this year versus writings and so ultimately, you know,
a guy like Hayward, he's got talent still and then
and not to mention the postseason experience and things like that.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Fair enough.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Data Brown Astros GM joined us here for his weekly
nine to thirty visit Data. You mentioned runs. Concerned about
offensive production and slugging right now, Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Think our guys, you know, we hit this downward slope
over the last few games. You know, we we haven't
been able to really come through with the big hits.
And so I mean, ultimately, I like where our guys
are in terms of, Look, we've fought through this, We've
shown grit. You know, we've got gamers on this team.
(05:41):
But you know, this road trip, we haven't been able
to get the big hit, you know, and put some
runs on the board. And so you know, that little
struggle has cost us a couple of games. But you know,
ultimately we're still three and a half up with thirty
to go, and you know, the boys are play well.
(06:01):
You know, we did hit a bump there offensively, and
we hit a little bit of a bump defensively as well.
But ultimately, I'm very proud of the guys. These guys
are grinding through it, and it's a long season, and
you know, I think we're in a good spot, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
How long in a perfect world, meaning these last thirty games,
how long do you go with the six man rotation?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, I just think the six man rotation definitely through
this stretch of eighteen games for sure that we have
and then we'll circle back after this and see where
do we go from here. I think having a six
man rotation at this point in the season, it really
gives our guys that extra day to get a little
(06:47):
bit of a breather. And I think when every each
one of these guys when they go out, we have
an opportunity to win those ball games. So when you
can run out six quality these starters that are going
to give you pretty good starts and give you a
chance to win the game, I think that's a good
thing this late in the season. And I think it
(07:08):
really gives your guys that extra day of rest where
you've got a chance to really power through this.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Dan to take me through I'm OCD when it comes
like the preparation and the like the routine doing the
same thing and leading up to a game, and you've
been in baseball solong seeing them as well with that
six n rotation. Is there any I don't know offset
to the some of these players like to know that
fifth day. Here's what I'm starting. I like my routine.
I don't like it disrupted.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Can that be? Is there any part to that or
is it? Rest is far.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
More important than routine for players pitchers, especially at this
point in the season.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think this point in the season, that extra day
of rest is welcomed by most starters around the game.
And so as I've always said, you know, guys try
to get you know, close at possible to third starts
each year, and honestly, these starts they wear you down
and it's a grind. And so anytime you can get
(08:07):
an extra day's rest and it doesn't cost you games,
I think that's that's a good thing. The routine is, Hey,
I'm going to throw every five or six days. I mean,
that's still a pretty good routine, right, It's just adding that.
It's just adding that extra day, which gives you know,
the guy a little bit more zip on his stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Astro GM Dana Brown for a few more minutes here
on his weekly nine to thirty visit on Sports Talk
seven to ninety. All right, let me get to the starters,
the everyday player. Thirty games to go. You mentioned that
it's a season of marathon, but we're at that sprint
part now, staving off Seattle and whoever else? Were you
meaning you guys at Houston Astros. So I'll ask you this,
Are we expecting minimal rest from the everyday players?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Is it show up? Not even have to look at
the lineup card because you know you're in it. How
do you approach at the last thirty games?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I mean that's a Joe question, but I would
think that, you know, we're going to have our better
guys in there for the most part every day. I
think we were able to give some guys a little
bit of a breather during this stretch of eighteen. I
thought that was important. But it's pretty much go time
with thirty to go and three and a half up,
(09:21):
and so I would expect, you know, guys are going
to be in the grind every day, the better players
for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Dana with with the Kyle Tucker stuff, just like trying
to figure out math. I know there's no exact timeframe,
but we talk about labor days coming through. No minor
league assignment. He's sprinting now, and I think Joe said
fifty to sixty percent of his max sprint, so he
sees that. And you've talked about batting practice and the
rest of it. So I'll ask you where's the optimism
(09:48):
or we're the realistic part of because if he comes
back and you say six seven, five games at minor league,
I mean, are we looking at mid to late September now,
because there's there's no way it's happened in the first
week of September.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
No, I'm still optimistic about you know, him coming back
within the first ten days of September. So I think he's,
you know, getting at least I think it's closer to
sixty seventy back in terms of full sprint, So it's
somewhere in that area. Maybe he has one or two
(10:22):
sprints where it looks really good, but he's pretty much
sprinting now. I've always said that this is the type
of injury that once you start to feel better, it'll
come quick and it's going to be more about getting
the legs in shape, running bases, that type of thing,
because the swing gets the swing and once he gets
(10:44):
his legs in shape, it's going to be go time.
So I'm still optimistic about it being before the.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Tenth through that pain threshold.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Real quick about this data is is there a difference
for him and the pain from straight line running as
a posed to putting your foot into second base and
getting the third on a you know, on on a
base hitt in the corner to right, if you're the
guy on first base or you're you're turning your your
heading into the gap and you got to dive. Is
the lateral movement of problem or is the pain threshold
saying both ways?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think the pain threasholds the same both ways. He's
just a little bit discomfort now, so he's he's getting
through the pain threshold. You know, just as an athlete,
it's easier to sprint straight.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Oh yeah, just for.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Sure stuff you know, when you when you have to
when you have to make a cut or a turn
of a base or anything like that, that's going to
be more difficult, you know, whether you're one hundred percent
or fifty percent. So ultimately I think that you know,
the pain, the discomfort or whatever you want to call it,
it's it's minimum now. And so you can see that
(11:54):
and it's sprints. He's cutting through cones and doing things
like that right now. And so he's he's just about back,
And I mean I feel good about it. Like I said,
you know, we get him out and get him on
some type of rehab and get him in there as
quickly as we can. Uh. And I've always said, this
(12:14):
thing's gonna go quick once he feels better.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Any Hunter idea on September call ups or the process
you're going to go through to bring the couple players up?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Who that might be.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, when we get home, we're going to talk about it.
So you know, we we've discussed it some, but we
really have to get into the grit and the grind
of it, you know, to figure out who we're going
to call up, what positions we feel like we need
a little bit more depth and and so we're going
to have those discussions when we get back to Houston.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Let me ask you this before you go. Are you
more comfortable depth wise right now? Or more secure in
the outfield or the infield?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah? I mean death wise. You know, I feel good
about both. But uh, you know, once we get.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Tucker back, of course, right obviously have Tucker.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Back, Yeah, I feel good about both. But right now,
as it stands, I feel better about the infield. But
when we'll get Tucker back, I'll feel a whole lot better,
you know about the outfield.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, and everybody will be able to take a deep
sigh and say, Okay, this star is back. That'll be
nice and great news. And hopefully we'll get that by
this time next week, Dana. Hopefully it'll be like, Okay,
a couple more starts in the minor leagues and we're
ready to get him up here and get going. That'll
be great. Good luck in Philly today, big one, and uh,
this could be a rematch of what we all hope
for come you know, October. We look forward to it
(13:33):
and great stuff, and we'll talk to you next Wednesday, Dana,
and happy labor.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
They enjoy the weekend, man.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All right, I appreciate you guys. And once we get
all players back and we get on all so there's
it's go time, and we got a chance to really
put some space in between first and checking place.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Better to be up by three, better to be up
by three and a half than down by three and
a half. Good on you. We'll look forward to talking
to you next week. Thanks hey man, Bro, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, that's data Brown Astros GM. We'll come back and
discuss it and finish up and interesting. They're a hard
belief and I mean hardcore and Kyle Tucker being in
before the fifteenth, right, I hope that. I hope he's
around it. I hope he's right. I hope he's right.
We'll talk and get back Sports Talk seven ninety
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