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September 18, 2024 13 mins
Pulling out the late win 4-3 in extra innings in what looked to almost be a loss with Altuve tossed, the Astros close out a huge victory. Many have raised awareness to the Umpires bad official calling not just this series but all season long. Should they be held more accountable for their decisions?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbray. Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury to usc truth,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is
the Sean Salsbury Show.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
What a wild ending last night over in San Diego. Uh,
the Yankees beat the breaks off the Mariner. So the
Ashros extend their Al West lead. And we saw Jose
al Tuove get tossed. We saw a review that showed
that Profar didn't get hit, but they said he got hit.
I mean, just what a while game. At the end

(00:43):
of the day, Astros win that ball game.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, and Joe Spotty gets tossed and the Jose Al
two Bay takes a shoe off to show the ball
fouled off.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, it was wild. And then the gimmick of fortunately
was for.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
The Astros on this side in good morning that they
benefited from the tenth inning on this one with the
Kyle Tucker base hit. But and Greg Kessinger, you know,
the runner at second base, so I and you know,
didn't he I mean, he was a last out, so
he came in with al two v obviously getting tossed.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I guess is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
So, but yeah, it was a wild ending five game lead.
Now in the division, I don't see how you lose
this division unless you decide to miss a team bus.
But take him anyway and get him in. And we've
seen the other side of that. But umpires got to
do better. They just do they they get they got
to be better. I know it's a hard job, but
they got to be better. And when al Twove and

(01:36):
a spot of both, you know, get run, it's a
it's an odd night, but they took care of their
business on the road against a good team and Hunter Brown,
it's it's ironic. You know his start, did we now
it's like, oh man, this is a it's a pedestrian
start for him. As good as he's been, that's what's crazy.
You watch his performance and you say, oh my gosh, solid,

(01:57):
but we expect him. Mean seven innings of eight strikeouts
and dominant ball, that's how good the guys would come.
So you'll take them when it wasn't your best night.
But you'll also take them when you can you get
the tenth inning advantage on your side and then the
gimmick works in your favor.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I just you know, Seanna, I just don't understand
why they have review in Major League Baseball, like it
should be that hard to get things right with review.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, I don't, and it also what bothers me, And
I think maybe Joe Aspata said this or was al
two that I can't remember that you have four umpires.
You have four, and I don't understand how difficult it
is you're telling me all four said no, didn't notice?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
What do you What are you paying attention to?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Like I said, I have nothing but respect for umpires
and referees when we're in the heat of battle. Listen,
they're never always right because if you're on the short
end of it, even though they won, on the short
end of it, you're mad at them. If you're the winner,
you like them, and then the other group's mad them,
so you never get them all on your side, even
if they call the great game. The other team's disappointed
over two balls and strikes at all, they didn't. They

(03:03):
didn't call it for the other team, which is which is?
It usually evens itself out if you're bad and having
a bad night. It's usually rampant through both teams. But
I don't I don't understand. I've said that all along
in the NFL, or in college, or in baseball, in
any sport, if you can't get the review right, and
you know what I say, it's too you know another

(03:24):
thing that bugs me, Well it's too close to change.
But what if the too close? If it's too close
yet you know that the other calls right, Well, it
was a bang bang.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
The replay did he get there? Now?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
If it's a if it's if it validates your call,
don't But I get so tired of us making excuses
for a replay four umpires and then review it and
those guys can't get it. I just don't understand. And
this is not looking at it just from the ass.
So I'm talking about in any situation, uh, for any team.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I just don't get.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
We have replayed enhance the game, and at times I'm thinking,
what did they see that I missed? I saw it
over the weekend too on catches hell. It might have
even been in the Texans game over the weekend. There's
times when review you say, they're telling me they can't
tell if that was caught or dropped, or that was

(04:21):
a pass interference or not. Well, you don't review pass
interference or that was whatever. The game a fumble or not.
I just it's bothersome to me, and I'm with you.
I respect them, but they're not above criticism, although somehow
we seem to think they are when it comes to
Major League Baseball, that we got to keep them right.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yet we don't worry about the rest of it.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
People who are paying to go to the game, listen,
they get it right most of the time. But and human,
I'm okay with fallible. Humans are fallible, but replay shouldn't be.
That's my point.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
You missed the call on jose Al Tuvey off of
his foot, and then Profar at the plate does a
good acting job. They review it and it clearly shows
the baseball doesn't touch him. And yet they say the
play on the field stands, which shows me that they

(05:15):
didn't have enough to overturn it, when it's clear as
day that they had plenty of to overturn it. So
what are they doing in the replay center? I just
I don't understand it. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't either if if the replay shows, why are
you afraid to change something?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
See? I get the h I get the feeling.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
At times, depending on the flow of a game, or
depending on the crew, or depending on review. And maybe
I'm wrong, because I also think human emotion comes into it.
Do you ever think that maybe they don't want to
to make the umpires look bad, They want to validate
the call, and so if it's close, let's just there.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
On the side of the umpires. I sometimes think that
I do like an ego thing.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, well not even an ego thing, just a just
a grading thing where it's like they're under enough stress.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's close, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, to where man, everybody's on umpires and everybody's on referees,
and like.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I said, re emphasize, I wouldn't want the job. It's
too hard.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
But that's why they're the experts at it, or at
least supposed to be. And then once the umpire thing
in the booth, you got it ready. You can see
every single angle all the time, and if you know it,
and don't tell me the will it was too close
to call.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
But it didn't hit him.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
So if it doesn't hit you, if it's too close
to call, I don't care what the umpire said.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Nope, you got to get it right. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
If it's a twelve to one game. I don't care
if it's a three to two game. Getting it right's
the whole key. Like I said, it's I understand if
it's if the tie goes to the runner, okay, great,
then that goes to the umpire if he called him safe.
But when it comes to getting hit by a pitcher
of reviewable plays, if the review shows it regardless, well
it's too close to change it. What does that mean too? What? Oh,

(06:54):
so he missed him by three inches, we can call it.
He missed him by an inch? Can't call it? Do
you get my It's like, oh, that was blatant, we
can call that one. Well, that's a little too close
to call. No, you err on the side of what's
more right than wrong. And while they may not think
it costs them, it's just you know, like I said,
better better them than me, because I wouldn't want the gig.

(07:15):
But I I to me, replay shouldn't miss. No, no,
I should not miss.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
The human error is gonna.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm not mad enough fire from missing the balls and
strike happens to all of them. They all make it,
and you're you're pissed. If it's against your team, you're
happy if it's not the other side is so they're
gonna make That's why I do. They got jobs to do,
and they got to do it, and they got to
study it and do all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
But the answer replay like.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
If you had an electronics strike zone, it shouldn't miss.
And well, so I know, but the guy, the guy
looking at review is fallible. So maybe what you should
do is have three dudes looking at review in separate
rooms or or where they're not talking, they can't and
then majority rules. How's that? I mean, how's that just be?
I mean we're getting I know, more bodies. We think, well,

(08:01):
that's more bodies. Who the hell wants more bodies involved
in all this stuff. But instead of one guy pressure,
just go and you hit the button and it buzzes
back with it, just like you would in a game
like the voice right all gay boom these two and
if it's two out of three, then do it. If
four umpires can't get it right on the field and
one guy, if you're worried about the what if the

(08:22):
one guy is fallible up in the air that he's
you know, having a day and he's not seeing Claire,
But I don't know what goes on. Everybody's not perfect
because a human is still making the decision with his vision,
with his visuals.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
So get it right.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
If that means, you know, hey, we're the majority rules man.
Two out of three said it wasn't go instead of
just one because if they're gonna, if you're gonna do it,
make sure all the eyes on. He can't have three
dudes missing it. Can you replay? And I know the
sometimes more is wrong, but at some point, and we've
seen it, it's gonna cost a game, it's going to

(08:56):
cost the playoffs, it's gonna cost money.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's craziness.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's something that should It feels like you should be
getting replay right one hundred percent of the time, if
not awfully close.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Why do we you and I have to continue to
have this conversation about replay and reviews and things like that.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
This year every year, you know, we say this year,
I promise you we had it last year, and I
promised the year before. It's like injuries, man, it feels
like there's more injuries this preseason, and then you look
at the numbers and there was just as many last year,
or just as many the year before. It's like, well,
there's a lot of stars. I remember we said it
last year and Brian, we talked Tom. I remember when
of some like starting like players of good players were

(09:35):
getting hurt, whether it's a banged up knee or I'm
talking about in football. Oh this guy, man, it seems
like there's a lot of people getting hurt. And you know,
we just said, you brought it up yesterday. How many
guys stars did you bring up that are on that
are on the IR or hurt or banged up.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
He went through them.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy.
And you know what's crazy, this guy, this guy, this guy,
this guy. Happens every year. It's the same year. So
you're right, it's not just the conversation and why this year.
It's the conversation every year. Yeah, every single year. And
it's not so much the umpires or the referees.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I get you.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Now, you can't miss blatant naked eye calls that are
obvious to everybody else, but you you can't keep up
with the game. It's a hard job. But replay. We
shouldn't be dogging replay because replay should be like, oh no,
this is no brainer. Got dudes up there? Why oh yeah, man,
that missed him? Well it's close. Did he hit him
or did he miss him? Missed him? Okay, change a call.

(10:30):
Simple And I know it's not a simple process, but
that's why those guys get paid their money to sit
up there and watch tape.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, get it right, Yeah, just get it right.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
You have review at your fingertips and you send it
to a replay center where you have people sitting around
looking at every angle, and you're still not getting it right.
That's the part that bothers me the most. And it
does not make sense to me. What in the hell
are they looking at?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
And I'm going to tell you another thing, brother, Well,
how do we know that the guy up there?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean vision? I'm and I know it sounds crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
We don't know if the guy's looking at and he's
got a clear view, if he's got contaction.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Hell, you know what I'm saying, and you too, I mean,
are we getting the perfect vision guy up there? That's
I mean, I don't notice human error and human nature
and ego come into it, like you said.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
But to me, then what are we doing here? You're
exactly right.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
It's like if we can't, if replay can't get it right,
then I'm one of those guys says, you know what,
if replay is going to miss it, then why do
we Let's not even have it, Let's put it back
because I'll tell you what happens with replay, and I
know I would get caught in this. Let's say you're
a referee and it's a it's a call that you
know can be judged.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Are you not?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Do you not feel like replay protects you at times?
Don't you say? Well, isn't it almost make you indecisive
as an official or an umpire at times? At times like,
well that's okay, make the call, go with what you thought,
and then replay can either validate I think now replay
can also embarrass if you miss to blatant when you're like,
oh my gosh. But I think it gives you, like anything,

(12:05):
if you have four wheel driver you worried about the rain. No, no,
it gives you a little senseurit, so you drive a
little different, right right.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's the way. It's the same thing here.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
If I knew that I had something my security blanket
back in me.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I may or what if I gave you the answers
to a test.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
And you had them, you kind of study, you had
them but getting the day, or you didn't study the
whole semester and somebody gave you the answers to the
test from a fraternity and you're sitting there a night
before a test and you say, all they gotta do
is memorize twenty five questions or whatever it is, don't
you And you don't know the Maybe she changes the
test and you're like, well, I should have studied and prepared.

(12:43):
I think there's a false sense of security at times
with replay. I do, and we all get locked into
it because well, replay will bail is out. Yet replay
doesn't bail you out.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
So, like I said, umpires and referees men, I love
you respect, don't want it. Sometimes I think it'd probably
be harder than running a route or throwing a football.
But the replay can't be wrong. It just can't be,
and it's wrong. I think it's wrong plenty in all sports.
I think at times replay misses it. Even the experts
in the booth, Brian, you know those guys, the Mike

(13:13):
Prayers who are phenomenal. And those guys who are up there,
I mean, they are gene sterotor.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
But even they see it.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
How many times have you seen where they said one
thing and the replay did not validate them. Now most
of the time it does, but even they miss it.
And they're the guys who've been doing it forty years,
so fallible as human but it feels like the video
shouldn't be That's just me and maybe I'm overstatement.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Fallible. Good word, good word, it's six qua.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's a good way to start your Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, we damn right. Jose Al Tuve loses a shoe,
loses a sock. He was pissed. He spoke about the
incident that happened, the miscall. What did jose Al Tuove
have to say? We'll discuss that next right here on
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