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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Seawn Salisbury, The USC Truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Come the playoffs. They open up a series tonight at
Mini Ma Park against the Mariners. Texas Boat Rates, Boat Races,
U L m Over the weekend, man, a lot to
get into on a motel Monday, tripley.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good morning, Shawn's gonna be joining us here just shortly.
Good morning. What's happening? And your cowboys got their ass
whooped again on Texan's got the ass? Yeah? Not good man?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Wow, you know, good for Sam Darnold and Andy Dalton
both over the week. But if you're a Texans fan,
not good Sean. Good morning. What's happening?

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Sup?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm good? What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Fellas dealing with some pneumonia many man, tough weekend for me.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
How are you feeling?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Not real good? But I'm going to fight through it. Man,
I'm okay, just doing it from home with all our
modern technology. Crazy day of football. But I didn't move
from one couch to the next. Thing. I didn't. It
was weird, man. I was like, Man, I feel a
little slugg put it on Friday gainst testing. They put
you through scans. I thought it was something with my abdomen,

(01:36):
you know. It was like tight lo and behold, I
got like pneumonia in my lungs. It's the weirdest thing
I never had it. I don't know if I don't
know why or where it's come from, because I just
keep on keeping on. You know. It's not a pat
on the back. It was just weird. It's the last
thing I expected, you know. I thought maybe it was, uh,
you know, something from a lot of modeling I've been

(01:57):
doing and stuff. You know what I'm saying, right know,
the feeling you thought was it the vid no no
vid dude? Over the week Over the weekend, it was
just like miserable. So I feel a little better. Ned's
do some great wonders from the doctors, you know. So,
but I've decided to do from here. I don't want
anybody to get I'm feeling better. But Friday and Saturday

(02:18):
were tough, brother, but still got to watch the games
and more about those textans there. So sometimes you just
got to show up and do up.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
You got to show up and show up big. We
don't take days off here at the Sean Sales Show.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay, so doesn't matter if it's pneumonia. The vid pulled hammy, right,
I mean some people take it off for a pulled hammy.
We don't do that here, okay, but yeah, no pulled
hammy's here. Yeah. It was a tough watch yesterday for
the Texans. I'm on my head almost exploded. You see.
You know Tunsil what six or seven penalties he was penalties?

(02:53):
He was called for another one too that they took
that they declined. So if I mean and at one
point didn't he if I'm not mistaken unless the drugs
got to me yesterday from the doctor. Three illegal procedures
and three or a lined wrong, yeah that is It's
just it's nuts. You just can't do it. And we

(03:15):
can't keep making this excuse because he's larying me. Tunsl
And we talk about pass protection, which still is not solid,
not his I think he was the number one rated
pass protector in the league last week. But as you
can tell, those statistics don't mean anything if all five
aren't working, and if your best left tackle and one
of the better ones in the league keeps getting pre

(03:35):
snat penalties. He puts his team in a bind. You
just can't keep saying, well, it's Tunsil, It's okay, No,
it's actually not. All the more reason he shouldn't be
doing it. That's just a veteran losing his composure regularly
and not not God dialing in Now. I know Grenard
made him look like they shouldn't have traded him after
yesterday because he yeah, he chewed him up and spit

(03:57):
him out, ran right by him. So I'm not talking
about tons. I remember the whole offensive line. Minnesota was
more physical yesterday. Minnesota was more effective yesterday. Their quarterback
played better yesterday. They were just a tougher team yesterday.
Those are the hard, the cold facts of it. Now

(04:17):
we know how good this team can be and how
good it's been, they still have not played anywhere near
their best football the first three weeks. And I'm getting
a little concerned about the vertical home run hitter passing
game right now. I haven't seen enough of it.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
You where is Tank Dell in this offense?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I have not seen enough of the big play attack.
I mean, just keep coming to get you.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Maybe that's because they're not trusting pass protection right now.
Maybe it's because they don't you know, they're just Joe
Mixon's hurt. So I don't feel like there was versatile,
but can't keep making You just got to keep doing
your thing then, and I was disappointed yesterday and I
think a lot of things, but they were beating every
phase of the game. They were the Minnesota's offense is

(05:03):
more effective, they were more aggressive on defense. They that
does no One game doesn't make a season. So people
when you say, well, don't worry about our Texas, I'm well,
I cause for alarm when you play that bad in
the game. But they got they got pushed around yesterday,
they did, and they just I don't think we've seen

(05:24):
sixty percent of how good they can be on offense.
But there's the big play. Aggressiveness has not been there yet.
I'm not it's not It doesn't go to one guy,
whether it's the coordinator figuring it out, whether it's the quarterback,
whether it's the receivers on the same page. And the
pass protection has not been as secure. It just hasn't
and it wasn't yesterday. So I mean, there's always something

(05:47):
to pull out of a game that you like. But
if you're Minnesota, You're pulling out a lot more than
the Texans were today because they be They beat him
in every phase of the game.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
There were yesterday, Sean, there was a big third down
conversion late in the first quarter that was wiped away
due to a Laramie Tunsil penalty. And then there was
another big third down conversion late in the second quarter
that was wiped away by a Laramie Tunsil penalty. Two

(06:17):
huge drives that were stymied because of penalties by one guy.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Sean.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
He has ten penalties through the first three weeks. The
next closest offensive lineman has five. It's inexcusable. You've been
yelling this from the rooftops for two years now.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I have, and I said it's gonna get him beat,
and yesterday it helped get him beat. There was other factors.
And I know we always want to give stars hall
passes because they've earned being a star. But if I
told you that and we say, oh, he's still one
of the best tackles in the game. Yeah, when the
play actually counts, not from the penalty, he sure is.
He sure is. I can tell you this. Their pass

(06:59):
protection overall, it ain't one of the best in the
league right now as a five dudes up front. I'll
tell you another thing is if I told you received
let's say you liked Jefferson as your best receiver in
the league. Fair and he put these numbers up, and
we said, you know what, three times a game he
drops at least one touchdown pass. Three times a game

(07:20):
the ball hits him in the hands and he leaves
it on the ground. If that was happening every week,
would you call Jefferson the best receiver? We say, Man,
he had seven catches, no eighty five yards, but he
dropped three that hit him in the hands. And you
get that every game all year long. Would you call
him the best receiver in the league.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
No, it's the same thing, Like was it last year?
A year prior, Josh Allen led the league in red
zone interceptions. It's like, oh, hey, he gets in the
red zone, but he throws an interception, damn near one
out of every five trips down. We're not gonna call
him the best quarterback. If you can't score in the
red zone, you're not the best quarterback.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
You can't say the same. Man, he's a really good player. Man,
he's a dynas amid player. They rely on him. He's precise,
except when you get to the red zone, where he
leads the league in red zone interceptions, and that's the
reason they didn't win a super Bowl. If that was
part of it, would you call him the best quarterback.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
In the league. No, we would.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's why you can't call Tunsil the best tackle in
the league. You can't just say, well, he's that way
twenty seven of the snaps, ten more, I'm not sure
you know sometimes and then there's six times, seven times
a game when he's in penally mode. That's not the
best player at his position in the league. It's not
even a top five. You just can't keep doing it.
There was other reasons they lost, but you can't file

(08:34):
that away every week because he's a pro bowler and
say it's okay Tunsil blocks his guy when necessary. Can't
do it. It's irresponsible to your teammates. It shows a
lack of discipline. And he does it. But here's the thing.
He doesn't just do it on the road. He does
it at home. He does it in the parking lot.
I'm sure he does it in practice. Him through the
pregame walkthrough. So I've given him enough hall pass because

(08:58):
you know, I think he's a great player, but you're
not considered the best player. We can't call you continually
say great, great, great. But hey, man, listen, the guy's
a great teacher, but two days a week his class sucks.
He's not very good. Then he's not a great professor. Okay,
we all have one day off every cup. You know, man,
three weeks, that wasn't my best class today that I taught,

(09:20):
Or Man, that wasn't my best day at my that
gas an oil job, or that wasn't my best broadcast show.
That wasn't my best game. Every week one of the
top three leads is tunsil penalized at some point if
you don't have a come to Jesus with him, I mean,
you can't keep allowing this to happen. He cannot keep

(09:41):
doing this. He just can't. If it was any other
player he was, his ass would not be playing. Yet.
He's so good when the ball is snapped, and he's
a really good player. But the distraction of move at
five moved back five yards, you just it's like you're
no longer looking for something else. The first thing you
look for on a good play is did Tunsil jump?

(10:02):
You can't do it? So that's part of it. But
they I didn't think their passing game was overly sharp,
their protection wasn't. They ran the ball okay at times
cam Akers gets the offense, but Minnesota was more. Fact
that's the thing that bugs me the most is where's
the challenge where you push them to the point where
the defense is afraid the death of you with all

(10:23):
this bandwidth. I haven't seen enough of it. And the
fact that they got they got bullied yesterday. They did,
they got bullied yesterday. That's I think that's bothers me
the most, because they're usually they're at the point now
where they can bully you. That bothered me the most.
And the penalties are maddening. They just are can't. Good
teams don't playoff teams and good teams don't do that

(10:44):
yesterday and every every week. You can't beat yourself with penalties.
You won't make the playoffs. Can't can't do it. No.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think for me, the most disappointing part is just
the physicality that the Vikings brought to the game and
the lack of physicality that the Texans had Like you said,
you said it perfectly. They got they're asked bullied. Yesterday
they got their ass whooped they did.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I had a broadcaster did I go on with, said,
you know Sean from the Naked Eye watching them the
first two games and watching them against Chicago. He said,
it's my weekly visit in Minnesota. And he didn't mean
it disrespectful. He just said, but you're there all the
time he goes, but just watch them on team washing
them against Chicago and all the pub and the hype
for how good they are. And he did not I
would tell you if he meant it is a dig.

(11:25):
He said that I from the Naked Eye, they don't.
They don't look like everybody talks about them, like against
Chicago and even at times versus Indy. And I said, yeah,
I said, I think that's the one off. I said,
you should expect a team that comes in here that's
the second best team in the AFC in my opinion,
not name the Chiefs. And he's going to be able

(11:46):
to come on with me Wednesday, not that it matters
and say, I'm still not convinced. Matter of fact, I'm
less convinced watching that Minnesota game about the Texans than
I am before that. That's that's what he's going to do.
That's what if you're a Minnesota media or fan, that's
what you're thinking. Not that it matters what they're thinking,
but you got to get it fixed because penalties and
lack of dominant big play stuff where you know, when

(12:07):
you go into a game, you say, you can't stop
those guys. They're too damn good, right, you know that
feeling we look at him every week we see I
mean they got there every week, it felt like last week.
Get built to that where it's like, damn, they're pushing
it down the field, hitting the flat, running the ball.
I mean even when they weren't a great running team
last year. Now it just feels a little cumbersome, and
I think we got to get out of that. But

(12:28):
the lack of physicality yesterday was bothersome.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, very very bothersome.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
And the fact that they were only able to put
together thirty eight yards rushing.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well that's it. And you know, cam Akers made a
few good runs, but to sustain it, thirty eight's not
gonna get you listening. With that pass rush they had
a lot of former Texans are contributing gruge Hill. I
mean they put it on they who do you think
got the best of the We went to a different team.
Those guys, they had a bunch of them on their
team that did it. Just this just did not look

(12:59):
anything like a Texans team that we expect. And I
know you're gonna have them. It was just a bummer
that's happened this early in the season and in a
game where it got you got, you got you know benboozled, Yeah,
get smoked.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, they sure did.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Speaking about just they're talking about Laramie Tunsel. I got
some quotes here from him after the game. We don't
have any audio, but we do have some quotes, and
he spoke about the legal, illegal formation calls and the
false starts. Man just cannot happen. Texans lose to the Viking.
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Speaker 3 (13:44):
The Texans did not play well.

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Speaker 2 (15:21):
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Speaker 4 (15:34):
Broadcaster Steve Sparks joined the show at eight thirty talking
about these Texans.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know, you know what the biggest emotional vampires in
sports are in football, I'm the emotional vampires are the
ones who zap you of every ounce of energy. Our
stupid turnovers on offense and I'm talking about that and
and penalties. They are oceanal zampire vampires. Dude, they will

(16:02):
zap it all. Listen, you go down and you you know,
team physically better than where their gut punching you like
the Vikings did all day. That's just that's just something
a gut check and in your soul. I'm talking about
during a game when it's like, oh, oh good, gracious,
it's turnovers and penalties, period, and Tensils apped a lot

(16:24):
of energy out of them with his penalties yesterday, as
did the team. You just can't over you. They're not
good enough to overcome ten penalties a game on a
regular basis, ten or more. Excuse me, they're just not.
Very few are very few are If you turn it
over and you have penalties and they're still trying to

(16:44):
find themselves, just find out what level of team this is.
I mean, they're damn good, but the best of the
best can't overcome what they do. What they did the
last two they were fortunate. Two weeks ago they played
the Bears and a rookie quarterback and they found a
way to get it done. But you can't keep doing this.
The vikings are three and zero for a reason. You
can't keep doing it this way, you know, without making

(17:07):
huge plays regularly. But those emotional vampires are turning the
ball over and taking penalties regularly is inexcusable. You just
can't do it. Very few teams in the past have
been able to overcome those and actually make some headway.
You can't do it. They're not good enough to do that.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
And speaking of those penalties, six of them coming from
Laramie Tunseell, listen to these.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Quote, Sean, you're gonna love these.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
This is I'm reading these straight from Aaron Wilson NFL Insider.
We have him every Friday during football season at eight thirty,
so you don't want to miss that interview coming up
later on this week. Larimie Tunzel on false starts, he said,
quote false starts. I want people to understand we all
have to be on the same communication. All take accountability

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because they're calling my name, but it takes all of
us end quote.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
No Ah, No, it's not the right guards job. It's
not the right guards job job. Right guard's job to
tell the left tackle when to go. Communication comes down
to this. If you don't know the snap count, well
you're anxious. You got to go on movement. You got
to go on ball movement. You're right there, you're close
enough to the line of scrimmage you can feel you

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got to go on movement. It's not the right guards
job to communicate. It's not the right tackles job to communicate.
To the left tackle, Hey, let me hold your hand,
and when the ball snap, that's when you're supposed to go.
I mean what he's saying communication. If the quarterback was
giving you a different cadence twenty times a game, he's not.
You've been with this guy, like I said, love Tunsil.

(18:38):
That that to me. Yeah, your name's being called because
you're jumping off sides. Are a lining wrong? It's not
that they got their job to do too. Is nobody
else's job to keep you on sides. That's your job.
One person's accountability. The quarterback takes care of his the
center snaps it on time, and your job is if
you don't know the cadence or somebody, it's the heart count,

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go on movement. You're a pro bowler, you're Laramie Tunsel.
You're a great player. So when the ball snapped, you're
one of the best in the league. Up until the
ball snapped, you're the worst in football. Got to be better,
he does. He's got to be better, all right.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
So that was him on the false Stars. Now here's
his other quote. Again, this is coming from NFL insider
Aaron Wilson. Laramie tunseell on the illegal formation calleds calls
against him. Quote, they tried to make an example out
of us. The first two weeks we lined up the
same way with no problem. Now it's a problem. I
feel like somebody told them to make an example out

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of us. Got to call it the same on both sides.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, I guess Baltimore feels the same way when Ronnie
Stanley got called for three of them in about five
plays when they opened the season with the Baltimore Ravens
against the Kansas City Chiefs. And I watched the whole
Baltimore game yesterday against the Cowboys, and Ronn Stanley's adjusted
works like I said, I mean, I mean, listen, I'm
on team Tunsel because I want him to play well

(20:05):
and want the team to win. But so he just
went through every single thing that went wrong wasn't his fault.
Basically confess that. Somebody gonna say, I don't think they
got it in. I don't think they got it in
for the Texans. It's not like this has been a
long running New York Yankees franchise or they said, I
don't think they got it in for the Texans. And

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it's not like they're they've become the villain in the
league because they've been winning ten, twelve, fourteen years in
a row. They're new to this picture. I you know,
maybe a referee crew now there is no doubt different crews.
Man may do it different and there's no like one
etched in Stone rules. It's a judgment call and some
may do it different than others. But no, man, you

(20:49):
you have to adapt. That's all football is adjusting, an
adapt in game. And if it's if it's on well
the right tackles, not in the backfield. Is he Why
is it okay for him? I mean he's fine, So
you got adjust. Like I said, I'm all four tons
of great player, but you can't be considered the best
and you can't keep doing this and you've got to

(21:10):
adjust it. If that's I hope his attitude going into
practice isn't. Oh that's on them, not on me. That
it's on him to get it done. I don't care
how many damn years he's been no league. Even more so,
he's not a rookie. He's got to fix it. Can't
keep doing it. I don't care how good he is.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Just inexcuseable.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well, if the quarterback throws three picks a game, but
goes twenty eight to thirty four, but three of those
are interceptions. He dominates the game, throws three picks to
the other team. You think they're winning on a weekly basis.
And is he the best quarterback in the league. Nope,
of course he's not. So what's the difference? And pre
snap penalties are controllable. That's just that's that's a penalty

(21:51):
you can control. Sorry, it just is holding. At times
you can't. Well, you're dragging a guy down because maybe
he beaching, you know, want your quarterback getting hit. I
get all that. You miss a block, so you grab
a guy. You're protecting a quarterback. Completely agree. A ball's tipped,
somebody else picks it off. Quarterback can't control that sometimes.
But I can tell you this, you can control pre

(22:12):
staff penalties. It's inexcusable. It just is.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, there's no question about it. And it's just you
cannot do that, Lammy Tounzel. You're a pro bowler and
you're being paid a lot of money. Figure it out.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Do better.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I can find a rookie to give me six acts,
I mean six penalties. Now they can play like tons
of once a ball snap, but I can find a rookie.
Matter of fact, I don't think anybody in the league
jumped out sides or aligned wrong six times in a
game yesterday. I don't think that happened.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
But once crazy, just exactly, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Can't do it.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Demiko Ryans spoke about the pre snap penalties and also
they got to be better on third down. What do
the head coach have to say? We'll play the audio
and discuss it next. Also, or open up the phone
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It's got the phone lines talking about these Texans, Adriaan,
what's happening to Patna?

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Where you've been?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Hey, what's going on this morning?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Ain't nothing but the rent cut.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
I hear you, I hear you, pimp sewn Sean, Sean Sean,
welcome to my world.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Brother.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
I pray to God nobody else has to walk through it.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
But pneumonia.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
I get walking pneumonia and pneumonia at least twice a year.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
I don't know where it comes from.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
But you're in good hand, Sean. You'll be all right.

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Speaker 10 (24:54):
Now.

Speaker 7 (24:54):
Uh, let's not stomp to turn up in the middle
of the truck.

Speaker 11 (24:58):
But uh, anybody know who killed Bobby loopole h Fellas,
Bobby Floyd.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
We got you new toys all off season.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
We heard about all these new toys.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
You're down one toy right now, but uh, where's the
rest of them? We heard about this offense and how
good it was gonna be, and all this other stuff
through the preseason, and we're still looking at the same
toys we had last year, same offense. And it looks
like somebody then caught up with you. So don't walk

(25:34):
away from the table yet, Bobby, because you're in this
mess too. And uh, I expect better next week.

Speaker 12 (25:41):
Fellas.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Thank you Adrian seven pmonial, get your dog with that?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Uh no, vid here with pnemonial, get.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
You You aren't your masters running? Uh no, okay, you
left it at home?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah I am at home.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah no, I'm saying left it there.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, where it blogs out of the trash can anyway. Yeah,
it's it is Bobby's. I mean, it's not just Bobby.
There's a reason obviously, whether you're trying to find your
way through it the mix and start and then being
banged up the last two weeks, you know, in one
game and then you know, missing this. So got to

(26:23):
get his durability back. But I just feel like there's
not as much confidence in the passing game right now.
And we listen to throw that was it Stroud made
on a corner route yesterday? He threw one a like
a deep corner to his left where he dropped it
in a bucket. I think it was Nico Collins and
made the catch. You can't some of the balls he

(26:44):
fits in windows, or you feel like there's no way
you could run out there and hand it to the
guy any better than that. But there's a consistency on
the big play. They got to be better on third
down and they got to eliminate penalties, and physically they
were pushed around for the first time this season. Yes,
today they were. And that's not like them, No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
It is just I did not expect I did not
expect them to get out physical out that that's not
even a word or saying.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
So you see how hard Aaron Jones runs and they're
moving at the vikings or when they protect the football,
they're not a joke, man. You know, they got explosive receiver.
That's we'll be healthy there. But with you know, the
best receiver in football, and they're moving the ball and
they're running at hard, Aaron Jones has got I mean,
they got you know, a couple of backs in the
backfield that'll thump you. And they're playing really good as

(27:37):
you saw. Their front seven was everywhere yesterday and they
played pretty damn good on the back end as well.
So and when you're that many penalties and you turn
the ball over, you're you're putting yourself in a bind.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
You really are seven Ray, welcome in.

Speaker 9 (27:52):
Good morning, Good morning, Sean. I hope you're see a
better man, Shamer.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
But because.

Speaker 9 (28:02):
I'm on my way to work and I just want to.
I have to chime mean, because I don't. I'm not
gonna pay the good dad.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Right.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
The Texans are two and one and they had a
bad game yesterday. Uh, the people need to kind of
calm down with the whole h these are the same
Texions we thought they were and they're two and on.
It's been three games. They need to calm down. I mean,
you're not you wasn't going to go seventeen and oh,
I mean yeah, the way we lost this today was

(28:31):
kind of upsetting. But uh, but what I and Telaramie chumpson.
Something needs to be done. If I was sentching to
a friend of mine yesterday, if I was the coach,
I would have said that I'd have sat him down
for a couple of series, man, because he was out
there playing literally like like he paid, like he bet
for the game in Vegas or something like he bet

(28:51):
on the game he was. It just looked really really
bad that that was the most undisciplined, uh play from
an offensive alignment I think I've ever seen at any
level about life, you know, And but you know, I'm
just not I think the Jags I wouldn't want to
be them. Next Sunday because they're got to play a
pissed off Tixons team. But but I'll hang up and listen, guys,

(29:12):
you guys have a great day. I can't shine. May
feel better, brother, Thank care.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Appreciate it, thank you. And Ray makes a great point.
Of course for me, it's not so much. And he
mentioned it, you know, about three quarters of the way through.
What he was saying is you're gonna lose games. They
weren't going undefeated. They're not winning thirteen games. It's hard
to do that in this league. And maybe they will,
but it's really hard. You're just gonna have them. It's
not so much they lost, and this isn't the same

(29:37):
Texas team. They're different. They're going to be They're going
to get better. I assure you. They're too much talent
and always had Baltimore. We're talking about them, Oh and
two talent got better yesterday, didn't it. Now they had
to stave them off at the end, but that that
looked more like Derrick Henry and had Lamar Jackson how
they want to look. So they're gonna be there. They'll
come out of this. But it's how they lost yesterday

(29:59):
and now we've seen it back to that games penalty
wise number one, But the lack of explosiveness that we
expect from them regularly has not been there, and they've
given up some big plays on the other on the
other side on the on their defense. But yes, no,
this is a really good team. Yesterday was a really
was a bad day for them, But it's the way

(30:21):
they're losing. When you get manhandled physically, you get beat
in every phase of the game, and on top of that,
you're self destructing with penalties. That that's a bad thing.
Undisciplined teams don't win a lot of games, and yesterday
they were undisciplined. The last two games they've taken that
stuff for granted. Fortunate they played a Bears team they
can beat, and you saw yesterday you played a Vikings

(30:44):
team that you can't overcome that many penalties when they
when they look like the seventy mid to early to
mid seventies Steelers or the Patriots rolling them off, you
may be able to overcome those kind of penalties a
couple games in a row against average or bad t
not against good teams, and that that's just something you
that's something you got to go back and I don't

(31:05):
disagree with Ray. Even if you're a star a player,
to sitting down to gather your senses may not be
a bad idea for a guy as great as he is.
Even great players lose their sense of what's going on
in a game every now and again and need a
either a swift kick in the ass or just a breather.
But he has got to get that fixed, he just does.

(31:26):
They have got to get that part of it fixed.
And you can't allow it on the practice field because
if you do, they'll take it. You'll see what happens
on Sunday. It's tougher on Sundays now, crowd, noise, everything.
So and that guy blocking is usually better than your
scout team. You do your blockings usually better than your
scout team. Guy. That's why, that's why he's a star
in Grenard and that group. Yesterday they they ran rough

(31:49):
shot over the Texans upfront.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Surely they may handle them all the way around. Man,
good crazy.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Ninety while will continue to take your calls on these texts,
and let's talk about third downs for the Houston Texans.
That's next on Sports Talk seven eighty. The Shawn Salisbury
Show continues and.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
No, Now you know.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Sports Talk seven Itey, just get out the calls. Roger,
welcome in man, what's up?

Speaker 13 (32:18):
Good morning, sewn, how's it going.

Speaker 14 (32:20):
Happy Monday guys, Sean, hope you start feel so absolutely
so yeah, real quick, real quick, hit them all the Texans.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
Uh. It's just like c. J.

Speaker 14 (32:32):
Stroud said, I'm glad that all this messes is good
to clean up here in week three rather than you know,
down the line, and you know when you're trying to
when he when you're trying to get on all fools,
all all the cylinders going and and you have to
pick ups like this. So the Laramie tounsled thing, Uh,
that's the thing that the Demico Ryan cannot fix.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
That is a c J.

Speaker 13 (32:55):
Stroud problem to deal with.

Speaker 14 (32:56):
He's gonna have to take the big boat down to
one of them, one of the nice, fat the steakhouses
we have and have a one on one with him,
because that's the only way that's gonna get solved.

Speaker 13 (33:05):
And you know what I'm talking about, Sean.

Speaker 14 (33:07):
You gotta get your bit that that's your that's your
left tackle, that that that's your guy that did that
keeps you upright most of the time. So yeah, that
that's gonna be a CJ thing to work with. And
I have no doubt he's gonna get that.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I really do. I have no doubt about that.

Speaker 14 (33:22):
So in that regard, I think that problem will get fixed.
Now the defense, that's something else, man, All all hats
off to the Sam Darnold man. That guy looks like
a completely revaent uh and renewed version of himself. And
it's looking pretty pretty sharp.

Speaker 15 (33:43):
Man.

Speaker 14 (33:44):
What they're doing down there in minnesota's pretty specialized right now.
So yeah, I think that was totally unexpected. I thought
the defense, uh you know what's caught by surprise. Uh
for lack of a better world. I just I just
think that they did weren't ready for Themiko Ryansky to
not be ready, That's that's kind of alarming in itself.

(34:04):
But I think these things will be fixed. I think
Dimico has a lot of pride. I think the Texans
all have a lot of pride, and I think they'll
get this fixed. And uh yeah, I'm feel sorry for
the Jackson. They're gonna get as whipping. They're gonna catch
a nice little ass whipping there.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Hopefully.

Speaker 14 (34:19):
That's that's that's just my opinion now, the Astros. Yeah,
I kind of want them to clinch yesterdays, Like I
started working on that rotation. But it is gonna be
nice to pitch, you know at minim Ma Park and
I'm a nice little celebration. Then you know, fix that rotation,
fix that lineup, moving forward. Gentlemen, you have a great week,

(34:39):
and uh, let's see how hol at you later.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Thanks Roger, you as well for me. For me, the
biggest problem is and I and I understand with the
Laromie Tunsall and you're a right Roger sitting down as
a quarterback and just have a conversation over a stake.
How do we get this fix? What do you need?
You do everything you can to get everybody on the
same page. My concern is the trend. Since he's coming

(35:07):
to the league, nobody's been penalized more intentional. So it
has been a career long trend, and that's that's got
to that's got to get better. And it felt like
he's the last maybe a year or so, maybe it's
it felt like it started to get better, felt like it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but these numbers are alarming now, but yeah,
I got to get it going on Jacksonville should expect

(35:27):
far better than they saw. And I don't know why
this team's surprised Donald's arm. I mean, he watched him
play this year. It's different. He's being well coached. And
I've said on the show before, I have not talked
to an expert. Guys I trust as much as me,
Guys I trust as much. Did I trust more than me?
Should I say guys that are in the business. When
I say trust as much as the guys that I
trust more, that coach them, did draft him? Not a

(35:51):
soul has ever said Sam Donald can't play even after
these stops where he's had not had not has not
had success, and that it looks like Darnold the way
people expected him to look when he came out of
college and it started off well for him in Minnesota
this year ball Ames heavy. Is Jimmy still there?

Speaker 13 (36:10):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, yeah, you want to get to Jimmy real quick.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Let's let's let's do it. Let's get them after the break, Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 4 (38:28):
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Speaker 3 (38:39):
Jimmy, we appreciate you holding good morning, Good morning fellow.

Speaker 17 (38:43):
It's a great show and listen to you guys every morning.
A couple of things. I think that during the preseason,
the offensive line wasn't able to jail together. You're seeing
it now. The offense, the first team offense wasn't really
dealing together. You're seeing it now. It takes a little
bit longer. The thing about it is that push. That

(39:06):
offensive line is not given that push like it did
in that first game. So now you're seeing you're seeing
Mixing trying to do. You saw Mixing try to do
a little bit of a creativity on his end, but
it's just a push up front. We're not getting that
push anymore. As far as that defensive line, we all
know everything is one in the trenches at the beginning.

(39:28):
So we just got to figure it out with that
offensive line group. I know we were missing a starter
or two yesterday as well, but you have to adjust.
That blind floor is was phenomenal yesterday with disguising his
defense and everything, but you have to learn how to
adjust and be able to do those short routes, you know,
the pick routes, things of that nature. I just believe that,

(39:51):
you know it's beginning. There's nothing to really burn up
about right now. I think we're gonna jail once we
start yelling. I think that offense will just start opening
up even more and it's gonna be hard to contain.
I think we're working out all the kinks right now
as we speak. So as long as we can try
to get that push on both sides of the ball
from that defensive line, I think defensive end, offensive line,

(40:14):
I think everything else will paul in the place after day.
Thank you guys for taking my call this morning and
again great show. Listened to you every morning.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Appreciate it, Jimmy, thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, there's no doubt physicality wins championships. You have to.
I mean, you've got to have a good quarterback and
some other playmakers, but it starts there. If you get
pushed around on either side of the line of scrimmage,
it's going to be very difficult. And Brian Flores he
does stuff constant pressure. Here's what he never lets you do.

(40:44):
He never lets you as a quarterback or an offensive
line or pass protection because it starts with pass pro
If the offense protections, you got to know who you're
blocking and who you're picking up they have created and
he is dead set on pressure and confusion. He never
lets your mind rest during a game. He just doesn't.

(41:05):
There are teams you will play and what I mean
by that, you'll play teams that did line up in
the old school Seattle Seahawks, Legion of Boom, that were
winning champions, they were in Super Bowls. They didn't give
you a bunch of looks. They didn't mentally exhaust you.
They were consistently though, showed you two or three coverages,
didn't pressure a lot, but would catch and tackle, and

(41:25):
they were had a pro bowler at every position, it
felt like. So they didn't exhaust you mentally. They were
better than you physically. You'd catch it, they'd tackle you,
and they were they were always near the ball. Here
Brian Flora's team, I mean he'll create one side pressure
you from the other seven eight, nine guys on the
line of scrimmage, drop one that's not supposed to drop
pressure somebody else. So knowing who to block and how

(41:47):
to block them becomes a problem. And then they're good
as well, so they can create difficult if you don't
get if you don't get that good starter, get your
hands on somebody, they'll blow right by you. So Flores
has done a phenomenal job of creating an incredible amount
of pressure, and nobody is getting after it. And pressure
and more than them in the league right now.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Seven seven, Dan, welcome in.

Speaker 18 (42:12):
Hey, good morning guys, and happy Monday to you. You know,
I just want to touch on these Houston Texans and
you know, it's just so frustrating, you know, with this
team over the years, regardless who the head coaches, or
who the quarterback is, or or who the on line

(42:35):
personnel is, it's the same trend, especially with Larrymy Tunsel Sean.
I mean you said it earlier with the previous caller.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
It is a trend. It is a problem.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
You know.

Speaker 18 (42:54):
I would listen to the other guys sports sports talk.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Show and they're saying that that Larry Me.

Speaker 18 (42:59):
He's just so's he's a diva that will not take
a responsibility.

Speaker 9 (43:05):
He will not say, hey I I f'd it up.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
It was my fault.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
He won't do that.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Maybe, Dan, come on, man, you know it ain't gonna work.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
You gotta cut him off. Dang it, man, Triple did
you get it a little little uh, a little fired
up this morning?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Appreciate it. I'm all for it. Man. You just can't
you just can't say that word. Yeah, I can't drop
the S word on the air, But I understand your passion,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't. You just can't. You can't.
I mean, I get your passion, but that gotta stop
that crap. If you want to say that.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
But I get what he was saying.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think where he's going. I think that
there's no stake that c J can buy him or conversation.
To me, this is a Tunsil thing. Yeah, Jumping off
sides and lining up wrong is disciplined. As a veteran
in the league, we expect you, as one of the
better players in the league to adjust to who that
referee is. It just is ad to to the cadence

(44:16):
and moving on ball. You can expect even a I
wouldn't even allow a rookie to do that six times.
The rookie wouldn't be playing, he'd be sitting on the sidelines.
The fact that Tunsil is so good as a player,
you can't you can't sit him down for very long,
even if you did it for a series or so
and you need him on the field. But you wouldn't

(44:39):
allow if a rookie did this, they would they would
destroy him on the air. I mean, they would be
what in the world and you wouldn't play him. You
couldn't run him out there. The fact that it's Tunsil,
all the money and the Pro Bowls and how good
he is, you got to run him out there. The
problem is he is putting your team in a bind.
When this continues to happen. You expect this from a

(44:59):
lesser player, rookie half of it. I guess, maybe one
or two penalties because you're overwhelmed as a rookie. He's
past that in this league. And yesterday's loss wasn't just Tunsil.
They were mauld of the line of scrimmage, their defensive,
their front seven was better than our offensive protection, their
defense was better than than our defense here I mean,

(45:19):
and their quarterback played better. It was pretty simple. They did.
They did the things that you're supposed to do, and
the detections didn't happens once in a while. It's the
way they got to that, which was Bothersome out maulled physically,
and penalties weren't embarrassed me yesterday.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
You know, looking at his penalties through three weeks now
Sean and the money he makes being a Pro Bowl
and then you look just at yesterday with the amount
of penalties, illegal procedures, false starts.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
I think he might have had tons of itis.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
I think that's what it was. And yet he gave
it to me. So I got pneumonia and he's got
tons of its. Right, you know that's what happens when
you're jump. I'll say he must have tons of lies.
That's gotta be it, man. And you know what's crazy, Brian,
And I know you. I know where you're going when
you say Max too much money. Mean, he's been the league,
he's a star.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Well, I mean, but the money side of it is
it shows the caliber player he should be right.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Right right, And for me, I wouldn't accept that from
an eighty five thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Yeah, that's fair point, fair point for sure.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Give I understand it. We have because the money money says,
you've been in a league a while and you're a
really good player. We're rewarding you for what you've done.
His performance pre snap says, uh, you know, minimum said,
I said eighty five grand, Like that was twenty five
years ago. Now they make like six hundred thousand as
a minimum. Sorry but minimum salary? Uh? An undrafted free

(46:47):
agent tackle that we started because the first two guys
got hurt, and he jumps off sides three times. You'd
want to pull him out. Tunsil gets more. Excuse me
Hall passed because he's laryerm mee Tounsil. But it can't be.
It's everybody, no no. When one guy jumps off side,
it's not everybody's fault. I understand, we're in this love together.
It's you got to control it. That's your job as

(47:10):
a as a player, your job. That's a pre step
controllable penalty. It's nobody else's job. So he's got to
get it fixed, and he needs to because he's such
a good player. You have to have him going right.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
Let's get to a quick call before it gets the
stake out. Dennis, welcome in.

Speaker 13 (47:29):
Hey, good morning fellas Sean.

Speaker 19 (47:31):
I hope you're feeling better.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 20 (47:33):
Yes, yesterday, that was the most complete performance I've seen
the Purple put Forth in quite a long time. They
dominated all three fastest of the game. I'm just so
impressed with the turnaround from Sam Darnold and Brian Flores.

Speaker 19 (47:47):
What he's known with that defense two years.

Speaker 20 (47:49):
Ago, if they were one of the worst defenses in
the league and now they're appearing to be one of
the greatest. But as far as Texans fans are concerned,
I think maybe the game might have been a little
bit different. Maybe the finish might not be change with
Joe Mixon in the lineup because it was apparent that
that defense wasn't respecting cam Agers and they could just
concentrate on the three whiteouts. And I just think that

(48:10):
people just need to take a page from Aaron Rodgers'
book and R E.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
L a X.

Speaker 20 (48:15):
It's only game three, less relaxed. Jamigo Ryans is a
smart call. She'll pull them together and.

Speaker 13 (48:19):
Getting ready for week four.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 13 (48:21):
See you.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
That's a good point. Yeah, the Vikings were pretty damn good.
I I just it's and this is how we do
football every week. It's a new man. If you're three
and oh, you're like, you're feeling great in Minnesota, one
game like what happened. We're always looking for the full
season answer in one game. You're not gonna get it.
But I know as a coaching staff and as a player,
they're going to go into day a little bit miserable.

(48:43):
Staring at the tape sucks because you're gonna see how much,
how how much domination in the pre staff pedals, You're
gonna drive you crazy. But the key is they're good
enough to go to work and fix it. That's the
whole key. Of course, shouldn't panic, but I don't want that.
The trends of penalties is two weeks in a row now,
I know for a fact that's something that'll drive to
Miko Ryan's and coaching staff crazy. And you just you
just got to get better at it, and and they

(49:04):
will and they'll get more explosive, and you've got to
be able to score even though Joe Mixon is not
on the field. That that this team's good enough now
to to move around the band with and find ways
to win with without Joe Mixon on the field. But
it does show how important his impact is. See you
more than one dimensional, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah, they were one dimensionally yesterday. They could not run
the football to save your life. Yep, m crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I just did you know.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I keep saying crazy because I just didn't expect that yesterday.
I thought it was going to be a you know,
I thought it would be a grind out win, maybe
like thirty four, thirty twenty seven twenty one, twenty seven
to twenty four, something like that, because Minnesota's been playing
well but not the ass kicking that we saw.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah, I was convinced to this was a three field
goal game in my mind, or a six point one
touchdown tied, somebody goes and wins or what have you.
I thought it was going to be a close. Kin.
That's a tough building. It's loud, and they've they're better,
and their quarterback's not putting in a bad way. He's
protecting the football in Minnesota, and and Brian Flores is
playing is he and Steve Spagnola are coaching defense about

(50:09):
as aggressive as you can coach at the right times
in Kansas City. They keep doing it and that's a
big reason why the Vikings are having success. They're not
and they're not self you know, they're not in self
inflicted wounds, which which the Texans did a lot of yesterday.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, discipline for Minnesota yesterday.

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Speaker 4 (52:03):
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Sean Brown and Tripoli Astros win the series against the
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Texans blown out by the Vikings thirty four to seven.
All right, Sean, for my steakout question to you in
regards to the Texans yesterday, offense not very good, could
not run the football and you said it earlier in

(52:47):
the show in the six o'clock hour about the home
run threat, the deep ball.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Do the Astros haven or not?

Speaker 4 (52:54):
The Astros to the Texans have an offensive play calling
problem three weeks in.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Sorry, my mic was muted, so during a commercial break,
I thought I unmuted it. I don't think Bobby Slow
has a play calling problem overall. I'm not worried about
his ability to stretch it and do the things he does.
I'm a little I guess I'm a little confused of
where that play's gone out. Defenses can take away big
plays a lot of times with the way they play coverage.

(53:33):
Yesterday you had a team that pressured you. There's big
plays to be had, but they couldn't get separation in
the secondary and he didn't have time to set a
seat and do what you want to do. So play
calling problem, I think they're play calling rhythm to start
the first three games. I love the rhythm. In the
first game, they wanted to run it and they mixed
into passes and you and there's like five different guys

(53:55):
who contributed big time offensively, and they turned you over.
They gave up a few big place to Richardson, But
I didn't think there was a problem. Matter of fact,
I loved it. It was just it was almost like
just a little teaser how much bandwidth they're actually going
to have. We didn't see much of it as much
last week, especially the run game. It's obvious that when
you run the ball, the bandwidth increases. The last two games,

(54:16):
they haven't dominated in the run game, and they've they've
scuffed a little bit offensively. So No, I don't think
it's a play calling problem or either that it's an
overall Oh my gosh, this is a deep seated problem.
I do think they're having a little trouble getting into
the rhythms from Slowik to Stroud to the offense overall,
and the horizontal football scene's to be working with that

(54:38):
vertical game is what's you know, when you can play
When you have to play defense and you have to
deal with fifty three plus wide and one hundred plus vertical,
it's really hard to defend the whole field with this
type of player at quarterback. But penalties are putting them
in long yarded situations and it makes it difficult. I
told you about first down. If you went on first
down on a regular basis, third down becomes a little

(54:59):
bit shorter, easier to manage. But if you're getting sacked,
getting hit, the run game's not there, and now they're
getting pressures and you know you don't have a lot
of time to hold the football. Well, then the vertical
passing game because of problem, and then everything becomes run
after the catch. So I don't think it's a problem.
I think it's a sluggish start in the first three games.

(55:20):
How do they.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
I mean, I don't want to ask how they how
do they fix it because it's not really a big problem.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
But what Okay, here's a better question.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Aggressive on first down?

Speaker 9 (55:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:32):
What what?

Speaker 21 (55:33):
What?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
What adjustments? What adjustments do they need to make?

Speaker 14 (55:39):
Well?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I need to look over because of the way the
way I was feeling with pneumonia this weekend, I don't
I didn't look at any numbers per se of Okay,
what do they What did they do in this game?
Their average yarche for what was the third down? Third down?
And what was their average arge per distance? I guess
what I'm saying. Was it third and six plus? Was

(56:00):
it third and fourth? Watching the entire game every snap,
then the naked and I felt like, remember I told
you on Friday, or I think it was Friday. If
they blitz you and force you to throw hot on
third and seven, what happens catching a tackle? Maybe it
was maybe I didn't say it on our show was
another show, but catch and tackle now it's fourth and two.
You gotta punt unless you're in their zone. I just

(56:20):
I don't feel maybe it's and maybe statistics will bear
say something different, but I don't think we're taking enough
shots on early downs. Yeah, it's easy for me to
say from my living room, and when you're not getting beat,
but also if you're not sowing up protection, there's penalty
after penalty, which puts your offense in a bund and
you keep moving it back. There's not a lot of
play calls for third and nine, and defenses know how

(56:42):
to force you. They know your weaknesses, they see where
your hots are. If you do this, you're gonna do that.
I mean, that's just the way it is. It's a
game of chess the entire time, and Brian Flores's chess
pieces were better than ours, and then they executed it.
So I guess for me, do not be listen. You've
got this this gem all these diamonds on your offense.

(57:04):
Don't keep any in the chest, but don't don't keep
any in the in the jewelry box. Let it rip, man,
let it rip any I'm hoping that it can't be
that reliable on Joe Mixon. Well, I told you I
felt how important he was to the team this year
when they got him. It can't be because if he's
out for two I mean, you still got to succeed
without him.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
You do.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
You just have to, and they're capable of it. I
just think more vertical big plays need to happen, which
we're used to seeing with this quarterback in this team.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Yeah, you want to talk about lopsided offensive play calling. Stroud,
Davis Mills Stefon Diggs. In the passing game, forty four attempts,
twenty eight completions for two hundred and fifty eight yards.
On the ground, cam Akers rushed the football nine times
for twenty one yards total between Acres Stroud JJ Taylor

(57:54):
in British Brooks fourteen carries thirty eight yards, an average
of two points evan per carry.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Well, you're not gonna win games running at fourteen times
very often, and you're not gonna lose games. I mean,
you're not gonna win games as well. Thrown at forty
eight times regularly? Was at forty eight or forty four?
Almost fifty times. I think it was twenty to forty four.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Yeah, that was twenty eight to forty four.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yes, you'd like to you'd like to flip take about
ten of those attempts and put them in a run game.
Ten of those passing attempts were in the mid thirties,
low thirties and run it at thirty times. That's what
you'd like to do. That's what you'd like to take.
Frankical go over the weekend the Michigan SC game, perfect
cation point. Huh, Michigan threw for like forty yards, right?

(58:41):
They ran for like eight million? And how many big
plays did they have in the sc It took them
a while to get in. They started to get more
physical the second half, but to sustain it four quarters
and then they missed the tackle late when they come
back in our head, miss the tackle late, the guy
takes it fifty sixty yards into the red zone. They
go win. But you can win dominating the run game
and not throwing it very much. The opposite is usually

(59:03):
not true. Will you throw it forty four forty five
fifty times and don't run it very well and still win.
You'll get the operation Brady. You'll hit it once in
a while, Mahomes. But normally, when there's an overabundance of
one or the other, you want it to be an
over abundance of running the football because it means you've
controlled the entire game. And they're not doing that at
the line of scrimmage right now, not anywhere near it

(59:24):
other than game one.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
No, no, they have not even against the Chicago Bears
in Week two there, yep, run game was pretty much
non existent, and they found a way to win. All right,
let's continue to talk about these Houston Texans.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Stroud talked about how to handle losses like yesterday. We
will play the audio from the quarterback and we will
discuss it next. We'll also continue to take your call
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Speaker 9 (01:01:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Guys?

Speaker 21 (01:01:19):
Glad to be with you, Sean. Hope you feel better.
I'm sure you'll be back in the pink before you
know it. Thank you speaking about being back in the pink.
It's just the kind of game you just got an
erase from your memory.

Speaker 9 (01:01:33):
I will say this.

Speaker 21 (01:01:34):
You know, we get to see what happens if you
don't have an effective running game, especially when you want
to put the ball in the air. There's a forty
five percent more than they did yesterday. You know, I
heard the announcers talking about this. With Flord's defense, how
you know you're coaching from the Texans point of view,

(01:01:56):
they're a little bit like the forty nine ers the
way they run their offense and fight. Flores had to
has an idea of how to how to defend that
you can probably break that down for me because I
don't know a lot about it. But you got to
have balance, I guess without mixing yesterday, you see how
valuable he can be, especially for a CJ who wants

(01:02:18):
to put the ball, you know, in the air a lot.
I'm just going to move on from this game. You know,
nothing else we can do every aspect of what.

Speaker 13 (01:02:28):
They tried to do.

Speaker 21 (01:02:29):
Couldn't even get timey on the field, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
So.

Speaker 21 (01:02:35):
Discust it off, move on, Let's get to the next game.
And you know, I still think this team is going
to be a team to reckon with. I don't think
anybody out there would disagree with that. Let me talk
about the Astros for a minute. They need one game
out of the next three. I want it to be tonight.
Tonight's the game. Let's put him out of their misery.

Speaker 13 (01:02:57):
Let's move on.

Speaker 21 (01:02:58):
Let's set up our our pitching for the playoffs. And
wouldn't it be wouldn't it be interesting if we face
the Tigers. Can you imagine AJ coming into the stadium.
I don't know, you know, I don't particularly like that really,
but hey, it's an exciting time of the year for
both Texan fans. And certainly with the Astro fans. So

(01:03:21):
I'm looking forward to tonight's game.

Speaker 14 (01:03:23):
We got to put them out of the imagery.

Speaker 21 (01:03:25):
These guys have mountains, have played horrible baseball. Let's just
squash them like bugs. Hey, guys, thanks for letting me in.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Appreciate the call. As always, Tom good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, hopefully the Assles will take care of it and
maybe get a minute or two arrest and then hit
the ground run and come postseason right away. As far
as the Texans, you know, they had more plays. They
had more plays than they ran, more offensive plays. They
you know, obviously had more passing yards. Uh, they got
after the quarterback some too. Yesterday they had they had
a handful of sacks. So in true it's a you know, discipline,

(01:04:02):
focus on your job, make sure you're not killing your
team with controllable penalties, and then make it some big plays.
The key is Donald made some great plays. They made
some run after the catch, They ran it more physical
and were more balanced. And and then Tom's right about balance.
It matters if you're gonna if you're gonna have the
balance or it doesn't look as good, make sure it's

(01:04:23):
on the physical. We ran the ball thirty five times
and won the game. Then you had to throw it
forty four times to lose the game. When you're gonna
not be balanced, if you're running the football dominant wise,
then the balance you'd like to be favored in that category.
You want to have good ballots all the time. And
as far as Flora's you saw what he did to
the forty nine ers the week before, and Bryce Bryan

(01:04:44):
brock Purty even said that, and I paraphrase it. Your
defense is wild, he told Flora, is that. And you
saw And the reason Tom both these guys come from
the forty nine ers to verbage everything they do system wise,
other than in a few things that you each coordinator
brings to the table. That's who they are. The forty
nine or system is what the Texans are doing, and

(01:05:06):
Flores obviously has a pretty good feel for it. The
last two weeks against these two coordinators and the Vikings
forty nine or you know those tie ins, they were
just better. The Vikings were better, Yes they were.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
They were physic physical, physically everything. They were just better,
flat out, flat out the Texans.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
That's right, and scoring touchdowns in the red zone.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
And you know what I understand I'm a Texans fan.
Obviously we talk about them. We're right here in Houston,
but just from a football standpoint and rooting for guys' success.
Good for Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yeah, it really is, Brian. Though I try, people like
they don't want to believe this. I'm just telling you.
I promise you this. I said it. I have not
talked to a guy and I could roll through their names.
I'll leave their names guys that I trust. I've said that.
I said it earlier in this show that judge the position,
scout people, coach people I talk about at the NFL

(01:06:06):
or college level, did not a one of them through
his Jets time is Carolina Panthers time. Now you get
to a point and then he goes to the forty nine.
He is like, at some point you're gonna have to
elevate again for us to quit you. I mean, you
can't keep making excuse like why well, people have said
talent around him. Sam Donald's been careless with the football
in his career, and maybe that's because he feels like
he has to be a hero and he put a

(01:06:28):
lot of pressure on himself to succeed in New York
Top three pick at the third pick of the draft
his year. So you put a lot of pressure on
yourself and so that hero stuff feel like you got
to make every play and you can't. And then if
you're on a team that's not very good or two
of them not very good, I've asked. I'm telling you
when Donald was going through his worst, can he play?

(01:06:48):
From my judgment of him in college as well, Yes
he can play. He's got super soll qualities. People love him.
He's underrated feet as you saw, he can throw off
schedule on schedule, he's got great arm, and say said,
what is it? And he's not a loud mouth, He's
he He never made excuses for his struggles. And then
he went going back to with you know, with with
with uh with c J. Stroud and Caleb Williams about

(01:07:10):
giving him like support. He said, you know, he's a
five year veteran of the league that Rock Perdy taught
him how to study. He didn't know how to study.
He knew he studied hard, but he didn't know how
to study. And I've told you that on this show, Brian,
haven't I how many guys go through they're just looking
at tape, but they don't know what they're looking at.
Got to understand what you're looking at, and so Purdy
helped him elevate how to study. It's paying off, and

(01:07:32):
he's got a good coach with some good weapons. I
have not one guy. Even when Darnold was going through
his worst guy can't play. They said he could play.
You just need to be in the right way. But
you know, you only get so many chances to prove
you can't play. And it's finally happening for him. This
is the guy people expected. Now he's still got to
sustain it. It's only been three games, but he sure
looks like he did at SC making all those plays,

(01:07:55):
and that's that's good on them. Yeah. Yeah, Well, unfortunately
we didn't fight on enough on Saturday. No you didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
And I lost money on the Trojans, damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
You know what, dude, they had them. They came to Alta.
I was proud of them because they were getting to
talk about getting bullied in the first half. Yeah yeah,
and then they came back and it was like, okay,
now they understand big ten football.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
The key for them is not going to you can't
do that a half. Big ten is when you're playing
Ile and Penn State and in Ohio State and Michigan,
they're gonna run, run, run, run until you prove it.
They didn't sustain four quarters of it, but they did
a great job in the second half until the end.
They gave up that big run again. They gave up
too many chunk plays in the run game. Their quarterback
completed like thirty five yards of passes and they ran

(01:08:39):
for eight billion yards. But it's a welcome here's how
you here's what it looks like in the Big ten
for four quarters, not for two, and Michigan was just
better at them. And there's a perfect example what we
were talking about. If you dominate in a run game
and physically you can throw for fifty yards and still
win a game, the others not the case. You can
throw it most of the time, get dominated physically. You

(01:09:02):
don't win excessive throwing games. It happens once in a while. Yeah,
but that's the outlier. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
Well, I'm gonna send you an invoice for the money
I lost since you're a usc trojan.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
So well, if you did you pick them out, did
you pick them in the money line straight up to win,
or did you give the points away.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
No, I had a money line.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, I can get that. I the game felt to me.
I mean SE's weapons. Michigan did a good job and
out letting them. Yeah, I just regularly. I thought they
hit the quarterback a million times.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
Yeah, I thought Miller Moss I mean toughness because Michigan,
like you said, they they were all over him. I
just thought the offense was going to be a little
bit better for USC especially in the first half. At
least second half. They they did what they did to
get back into the game. But I just thought they
were going to come out and sling it all over
the place. And credit to Michigan, they played well, But yeah,

(01:09:56):
I took them. I took them money line and uh
you know, hey, look you miss one hundred percent of
the shots that you don't take, brother, so you gotta
get out there, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
All right? Well do I ever and that Michigan running back,
you think he's about two hundred and twenty five pounds
a full grown man. Now they put it on us.
He but it's a great lesson to be learned. Sie.
They hung in their no moral victories. They just they're
gonna have to be more physical. But yeah, sorry, you
lost your money. But guess what deal with it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Yeah, you know, inflicted wound exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
We you know, I might have lost my money, but
my Bandido's scout team we won the We won the
chip this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Dog Yeah, congrass, thank you man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Man did you get did you get run out of
a game? You get run?

Speaker 14 (01:10:36):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Sure didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
I'll tell you what though.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
We played two of the best teams in the state
and took both of them down two two to one victories.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
One of the semi finals, one of the finals. Gritty
gritty win from the Bandidos twenty twenty eight scout team.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Nice pitching performance, oh hell yeah, really nice.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
I had a kid in the finals six and two
thirds innings, only gave up five hits, struck out two
walk just one bingo bengo bongo.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Yeah, you know, shout to all my guys. Yeah, just
another one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
That's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Oh yeah, hey, uh you know you know the name
Brad Kressey.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Yeah, I know it. Pops is a friend of mine.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Yeah, Brad Kressey. He played at l s U hit
a walk off to win the national title. Uh for
the LSU Tigers back in the College World Series. Yeah,
I coached against him and his son in the semi finals.
They played for the Cane Southwest Scout team. His son
is Burke Kressey. We beat them two to one.

Speaker 22 (01:11:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Mark Kressey is Beach Kressey as we call him. He
is a bull betcher four years for the Dodgers, and
he and myself and Steve Sachs were the groomsmen for
Mike Marshall, the first base that's right, that's right. Oh,
Beach Cressey one of the great people of all time.

Speaker 13 (01:11:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
And I played against Mike Marshall's son in college. He
was a freaking almost aid the wort.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
He was a kid go to school so as kid.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
His kid played at Stanford as freshman year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
But then he transferred into Lubbock Christian nai A and
I played against him in my sophomore year at college.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
He had two bombs against us. Kid was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
It's been a while since we've had Sackson. It's been
a while since I've talked to my boy Mike. I
need to catch back up. But Beachcross, Yeah, good people, man.
I was blessed with some good friends those guys are
great people.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Yeah, so let's continue to talk about these texts. Seven, one, three,
two and two five seven. I got the phone lines
jammed up. We'll get to all your calls next we're
the Shawn Salisbury Show continued. I want to see if
we can get through all three of these calls.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Random you up first, Good morning, Hey, good.

Speaker 13 (01:12:40):
Morning the guys, Sean and Brian. Great show. I hope
you feel better.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Sean, thank you, sir.

Speaker 23 (01:12:47):
You know Jonathan Grenaud Man, I hate that he left Houston.
I mean, he played a heck of a game, and
Sam Donaldauso played a great game.

Speaker 9 (01:12:57):
You know, c J.

Speaker 8 (01:12:58):
Stroud will live.

Speaker 13 (01:13:00):
Up to his potentials if we don't get him no blocking.

Speaker 23 (01:13:04):
I think that Jamiko Ryans need to send a message
and bench a couple of peoples if.

Speaker 13 (01:13:10):
They don't perform well.

Speaker 23 (01:13:12):
And also, Man, I was watching that show, the TV
show for seven ninety on Space City.

Speaker 13 (01:13:19):
You and Brian would be perfect.

Speaker 23 (01:13:21):
For a morning television show and stand and Guarding. You
know I watched those shows. I mean, you guys are
the perfect guys for television and radio. But the Texans
need to get get it together. And I just hope
that it's spotted. Don't make no bad decisions in the playoffs.
I hang up and listen.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Thank you, Randall appreciate the compliment as well. We gotta
get on TV, dogar, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Yeah, well, I mean I don't know. Sound four hours
and six to ten in the morning on Space City
sounds good to me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Sounds fantastic, sounds good to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Meet new fresh live programming right when you wake up
in the morning. Yeah, that's that's the one. You know what, Randon,
we agree with you, just ask us.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah, I love love that from Randall. Let's talk to Andy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Andy, hey man, we gotta get Charlie hack back. You
know he's better than Larrmy Tunzel.

Speaker 10 (01:14:16):
Oh well, let me tell you something about Larry Tunzell.
Before I get Larry tuns I gotta get something to
Joe Aspada. Hey, Joe Berlander.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
He doesn't have it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:24):
He not put him back.

Speaker 10 (01:14:25):
He let him stay in that game way too long.
And I and then yesterday seventy some bitches. You get
rid of spaghetti? Why why he's young? His arm is fine,
and then he lifts Let's had her walk two people
and give have three hits. That's two batters too soon.
He should have been told. Now let's get to Larrymykunzels. Hey, Sean,

(01:14:46):
think about that interview you do with Bruce Matthews a
while back. What did Bruce say?

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
I play?

Speaker 10 (01:14:52):
I practiced and played thinking that my job was at hand. Well,
I wonder if and may Kunzel could play like that
thinking we're afraid to lose his position. I told you
guys last year when they reached, when they gave him
that extra bump of money, it was useless. He was

(01:15:13):
in his PFF last year. He tied for twentieth in tackles.
That means he that the top end of the first third,
twentieth and he gets paid what like the third highest
paid tackle or the second highest paid. The guy does
not care about winning. He cares about one thing, bank,

(01:15:37):
That's all he cares about. And what he said yesterday,
remember what he said? Everything he found that that extension.
I'm looking forward to being the leader of this of
the team BS.

Speaker 13 (01:15:49):
He's a bomb.

Speaker 10 (01:15:52):
He always has been. Never lived up to the hype.
Somebody needs and Dimiko should have pulled his butt out
of the dame. But guess what, it wouldn't have mattered
to him because it doesn't matter to people like Laramie Tunzel.
We need some people like Bruce Matthews thinking that's what
we need have the day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Guys appreciated Andy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I would hope that Tunzel cares about winning a title.
I would hope so. I mean, the team that feels
like the vibes as he does. But he's he's just
got to get better at it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:26):
You just do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Regardless of whose fault it is. And I mean, when
when you jump off sides, it can't be my, it
can't be the right tackles fault. It's not the center's fault.
And four other guys are kid holding their water. It's
just it's got to stop. We can we can say, oh,
I love him, he's a Pro Bowl, he's making all
this money. But the bottom line is, I'm talking about
specific things. You can't have that many penalties in five games,

(01:16:51):
let alone I'm talking about him. You can't have ten penalties, well,
ten penalties already in three games. You can't have that
in fifteen games. If you're offensive, I mean, you just can't,
especially pre snap penalties that are controllable. He got he's
he is absolutely has to be better there. He absolutely does,

(01:17:13):
or it's gonna be. Well, it's been a trend since
he's been in the league, but now it's it's like
an over I mean, it's it's out of hand at
some point in times, somebody it can't just be it's okay,
it's Laramie. Can't. You just can't say that. As good
as he is. On the other side the Verlander talk,
we all know how much we love him. Right now,

(01:17:33):
you can't start him among the above. The first three
you just can't. Not even the first four can't deserves
would agree one hundred percent, trying to give it because
I feel like Blanco would be really versatile either way,
right because he's overcome so much in his career getting
to be a yeah either way, I feel like he'd

(01:17:54):
be versatile to do that, and and probably be since
he's not a you know, going to the Hall of
Fame right now, probably be a little more grasp it.
Even though Verlander team guy wants to win as one championships,
but to me, he's not going to be starting. To me,
it would say to your team that it's more of
we don't want to hurt feelings than we do worry

(01:18:15):
about the win. And I'm not dogging you know how
much we love Verlander. Guy's been phenomenal, but you can't
run him out there for sure the first three. Now,
if you decide you want to go with a Lifetime
Achievement award and you need a guy as your fourth
starter in a series, he'll be great whenever that series
kicks in a longer series. But as far as the
first three, that's etcheton Stone. Nobody's done anything to move
them out, and if it was, it'd be Blanco next.

(01:18:37):
That's exactly right. Yep.

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Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
John, thank you for holding brother.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
What's going on this morning, Hey man, how y'all doing today?

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Good?

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Hey man?

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
You know I find that uh, well, Minnesota coaches. I
find they have a better a better game plan than
the Texas coaches. I can probably say that our will
coach has got uh our coach. But then at the
same time, you know, it's like the Latimer Townson deal
he been doing. He been having these penalties from day
one when he stepped off the plane here and used

(01:20:08):
to you think by now he would have stopped that.
You know, he would have stopped this kind of stuff.
It's like he let the ad out of the balloon
before we even had a chance to fill a balloon
up and put it up in the air. You know,
he started that yesterday. I'm like, here we go again,
and I shouldn't have to say that, you know, And
then for him to d not going to d now

(01:20:29):
and all that. I would have hoped that last season
that Demiko Ryans and these coaches had got him straight
on this kind of craft.

Speaker 14 (01:20:37):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
I mean, I could almost say put the whole dog
Gune loss on him. I really could almost be harsh
and say that.

Speaker 9 (01:20:45):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
You know you could see when one of the penalties
where c J Shot just dropped the ball down on
the ground, kind of like to say, oh boy, here
would go the latima. Tunsel need to do something about this.
You know you don't have a problem wanting to be
the highest paid player every high paid uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Uh uh left tackle? Left tackle?

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Yeah tackle anytime some other tackle tackle gets a little
bit more money than him, you don't mind doing that. Well,
striking yourself.

Speaker 9 (01:21:13):
Out, man, because this kind of crap here.

Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
That you're doing is it's your fault. You know you
shouldn't be doing this kind of stuff. Hell, what was
our boy named Brown back in the day? Man, that's
a ta lammy tumps if you listening, Dwayne Brown was
better than you, man, So get your business together. Hey man,
y'all have a good day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Bro, thank John. Yeah, get that business stand on it.

Speaker 9 (01:21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Yeah, here, here's listen. We can sugarcoat at all we
want is Tunsell when the ball staffed the hell of
a player he is, does he deserve to get paid?
Sure he does, because that's that's how it set up
the best at their position, one of the best. They
get paid. But let's make no mistake about it, and
it's not personal. But I can tell you this. Every
time a flag's thrown and they blow the whistle, you know,

(01:22:02):
my first thought is that's Tunsil. And six times yesterday
and ten times in two weeks, that's who it's been.
I swear I was saying the same thing. John was
the second to first penalty. I'm like, are you kidding me?
And then again and again and again. You can sugarcoat
it all you want. You can still love the guy
as a player, and I'm sure he's a hell of

(01:22:24):
a good guy, but when it comes to that, that
is inexcusable. And it's been going on since he came
into the friggin league. John, He's right, at what point
in time do you say, dude, enough's enough. Think about
other positions. Would you run a receiver out there that
dropped five balls a game? Of course you wouldn't, No

(01:22:44):
matter who they are, you'd say, man, you're gonna first
of all, if they wouldn't be getting paid that kind
it's putting it that it does. It's such a buzzkill.
It is such a to have that happen regularly, once
every three games, games, once every two games. I get it.
You're playing against the Michael Parsons of the world. He
gets you to jump. I get it. Six times lined

(01:23:07):
up wrong, you got to you. This is accountability. And
I'm a little bothered that it was on both answers.
It was. I confess there was. All of us are
involved in this. No, you're all involved as a team.
You're not involved. If if CJ. Stroud drops back and
he has no pressure and throws a curl route right
to a linebacker, guess whose fault that is. He didn't
see it. That's on c. J. Stroud When you pre

(01:23:28):
snap pick. I can handle post snap penalties as long
as you're not cheap shot people playing hard and you're
a little bit over ambitious. I get it. Holding once
in a while, you can. You can't. You cannot continue
to allow this and keep running a guy out there
and he's your best tackle. It's got to stop. It's
an every it's not a sumtime. It's an every day,

(01:23:49):
every week thing, and and it just it's undisciplined and unfocused.
You wouldn't let a rookie get away with it. As
good as he is. He has got to look in
the mirror and say, this has to stop. I am
my team legitimately killing my team, and that's what's going on.
So I don't really care if it bothers anybody. I'm

(01:24:10):
a huge Tunsil fan. I cannot say it wouldn't matter
if it was my own kid playing left tackle. He's asked,
enough's enough. You have got to have some discipline because
it just breaks and then all of a sudden, now
second fifteen. Now what guess what? Now I control the
temple on the defense. You can't keep doing it. That's
a hymn thing and nobody else because it's happened all

(01:24:33):
too often for like eight straight years since twenty sixteen. Enough,
it's got to stop.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
Yeah, uh, make no mistake. These pre snap penalties have
got to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Make no mistake.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
If you try anything jobs, I will.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Vetoing jobs, raiss left sad jobs. Right whatever he said,
whatever that guy said, Yeah, I forgot flip is whatever
that guy said about with his precision job. Precision jobs.
I don't know what he said, but make no mistake.
You can't keep having precision jobs whatever. Yeah, yeah, but

(01:25:21):
we're not making any mistake.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
You ain't got to be better at it, oh man,
Old Joey b Dog.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
He'll jump off sides if he jumps off sides to
jump off side, only to jump off sides. If he
jumped off sides, means he jumped off side.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
But if he was on sides, then that technically means
he's not off sides, but he's offside because he's off side.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Make he's got John's right. I mean, I think tunsl
cares about winning.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
You can't be that good for that long and not caring,
and it's hard to sustain. Just if it was just
about money. I think he wants to and I think
he probably can't. If he's not embarrassed about what happened yesterday,
he should be. Yet the guy's the hell of a
player and you need him. And that's the point. It's
a pro Bowl player can't be doing this. You wouldn't.
You would not allow a rookie to do it. Why

(01:26:14):
are we allowing it? I mean, a guy who should
know better, and he does know better, and it just
can't keep happening. That's a tunsil thing. It ain't. That
ain't a right guard thing, and that's not a stroud thing.
That's a tunsil thing. Period. He's killing his team. Make
no mistake, Make no mistake. You love that clip.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
We hadn't played it. We haven't played it in so long.
Triple win the archives for that bad boy. Oh man,
there's a gold mine in there. Let's let's get to
Gary real quick. Up in spring.

Speaker 15 (01:26:49):
What's up Gary, Hey, guys, good morning. Uh just kind
of give you my take on the game yesterday. I
hear all the call ins and everything about tonsle of
this and that individual things, and in the game I
was I was screaming and cussing the same thing. But
now I've had time to reflect back as they say,
and the reason that the Texans lost, and this is

(01:27:10):
my opinion, or you put the other way the other
team won is twofold is the players and the and
the coaches. They were out They were out played offensive
their offensive line, offensive team out did our defense. Our
offensive team was was deficient to their defense. Man, they
got awesome front seven. They're unbelievable. It was such a

(01:27:32):
good team. And also the coaching and the game plan
and the and the and you know, the adjusting in
between games. So we were outplayed on every facet of
the game. That's why we lost, not because of of
Tunzel's ball starts or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
So just wasn't meant to day.

Speaker 13 (01:27:47):
Well, they outplayed us.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Yeah, no doubt. Now you listen. They they dominated as
we opened the show. Dominated physically, they dominated with more
better play, They dominated more at the line of scrimmage.
Their quarterback played better, no no, no doubt about it.
And and they were more disciplined, which falls into the
Tunsil thing they did.

Speaker 15 (01:28:07):
I have one more take, if I may please, Okay
on the astros, don't shoot me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
I'm gonna tell you this right here. Uh uh.

Speaker 15 (01:28:15):
Berlander has one more start. If he has a five
or six innings, real good start, he's in my opinion
is because of his experience, he's gonna be the the
opening starter of the playoffs or the second game starter.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
So no way can I approve my opinion. And we
appreciate it, you respect it completely. You may be you
may be right, but I don't think you can do it.
I just I just don't surely, not one or two.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
And you know what, you know what, Sean and I
know we've we've had a lot a lot of sports
that we're going to be covering, you know, today and tomorrow,
and obviously the Astros have a chance. But even in
the postgame presser, postgame media availability, justin Erlander himself, you know,
with what he said, even he knows that he's probably

(01:29:05):
not going to pitch very much in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Yeah, and that's the sign of a real pro who
knows he hasn't lived up to what he Excuse me,
who he is. That's the expect that's the guy who
expects every day to go out and dominate Gary's I
mean it was Gary who called, right, was that Gary said? Yes?
That was Gary, Yeah, Grey Gary. Gary makes a great point.
If he goes out there and pitches great in this
and you be tempted because of to put him up there,

(01:29:28):
but he's not running out the first one fromber Is
and he can't run out the second that's got to
be Hunter Brown, and the way Kakuchi's pitched since he's
come here, there's three. I just don't see it happen
regardless of this next game. But I get why the
temptation would be there for Gary. Gary makes a good point,
But to me, the first three are a no brainer.
And I don't even think they're challenged.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Yeah, real quick, forget to break. Here is Justin Verlander
on potentially not pitching in the playoffs.

Speaker 19 (01:29:52):
Like I said, it's not my decision, but you know,
I was away for two months and these call these
guys were pitching, you know, seeing a bunch of guys
really come into their own and uh look like like
I said, I I see the calendar.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
I know what time of the year it is.

Speaker 19 (01:30:10):
That's why I had to come back and try to
find myself. There's only one way to to to be
successful in this game and as a pitcher, and that's
the pitch against the best town in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
You know, sitting there.

Speaker 19 (01:30:23):
Trying to give myself time wasn't possible.

Speaker 11 (01:30:28):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:30:28):
I needed to figure out where.

Speaker 5 (01:30:29):
I was at.

Speaker 19 (01:30:30):
It's been hard. It's been a tough lesson, you know,
but I don't regret it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:30:35):
I want to show up for these guys.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
I want to be there.

Speaker 19 (01:30:38):
Weeah again, not my decision.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
Yeah, that's a ver Lainer talking about not POSI.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
I think he's prepared for the fact that he may
not be a starter in the postseason. I agree, thank you,
And that's a that's being listen. Is there anybody that.
I mean, think about all the years he's been doing it,
Nobody is a harder judge of himself or knows more
about what he's going through than him. He's always been
pretty honest about that, and I think what I think
he sees the result and he's right when he was down.

(01:31:05):
These guys have pitched phenomenal. They're the reason they're here.
There's pitching staff's the reason they're here for the most
pot I mean, everybody's got to be involved, but that's
the reason. The pitching staff's strength. And as much as
we love him and you may need him in certain situations,
but right now, to give your team the best chance
to win, there's three guys for sure that you'd have

(01:31:26):
to run out there ahead of it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
There's no question about it. It's it's been I don't know, man,
I know he's got one more star, but but where
I'm at.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Right now, I think that doesn't matter. They clinch tonight, won't.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
It won't matter. I agree, all right, let's get to break.
We'll continue to discussion next on Sports Talk seven to eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
More Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety where Astros
and Rockets play and real Texans talk.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Let's get it back out to the phone lines and
we'll start in order the longest wait Robert, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 24 (01:32:01):
Just got a quick question, and I apologize if I've
either missed this or just misunderstand how they set up
the postseason roster, especially when it comes to pitching.

Speaker 13 (01:32:09):
But has there not been any.

Speaker 24 (01:32:12):
Discussion or would even be plausible to have Erlander as
a bullpen role in the first round? And why I
asked that is because I mean, yeah, his pitching has
not been up to par, we all know that, but
man as a veteran and as a postseason you know,
history has I mean, they.

Speaker 13 (01:32:33):
They're still gonna need him.

Speaker 24 (01:32:35):
Yeah, And and so I'm just I'm just wondering, like,
so is that not even a topic of discussion.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Yeah, So we we've here on this show have have
discussed it. I and what we have kind of talked
about in at least my opinion, So is it possible?

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Yes? Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Now you got to remember they're headed for a wild
card series, meaning it's only a three gamer. So it's
it's tricky, right. Three gamers are not fun, neither of
five gamers. That's why I don't like they ds either,
But do you want to Justin Verlander? First of all,
I think it comes down to two questions, Robert, will
Justin Verlander accept that role?

Speaker 9 (01:33:10):
And do you?

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Would you rap?

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
And if he does, would you rather a Justin Verlander
coming out of the bullpen or having another bullpen specific
arm on your roster? And you would leave Verlander off
the A or off the wild card roster? Those are
the things I think they're gonna have to to think
of me personally. I don't think that he will be
on the roster for the wild Card Series, and if

(01:33:32):
he was, I don't see him pitching out of the bullpen.
So I don't know why you would put him on
the roster. But that's just my opinion. I got you,
all right, But.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
It's a topic for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
This whole thing, like this whole Verlander pitching situation, is
gonna be really interesting as we wrap up the season
because he does have another start, and it's one of
the questions that we're gonna ask Steve Sparks coming up
at eight thirty. So it's gonna be something to watch, man.
It's gonna be, like I said, it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
Guys, appreciated Robert, and let's go out to Richmond and
talk to John John.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Good morning, Yo, Yo, what's going on?

Speaker 25 (01:34:06):
I just got a couple of comments and a quick
question Bobby Sloyd, We we crowned you last year, man,
you gotta you gotta step it up a little a
little bit. That looked inconsistent man with the running game
in the past game. And also, what's that defensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
We got, what's his name, Burke, Matt Burke.

Speaker 9 (01:34:27):
I got a question for you guys.

Speaker 25 (01:34:28):
What's the concept of bumping run? Is it that teams
are scared to play bumping run or they don't trust
that defensive back to give them the production with that
bumping run. I think Stingley should have played a little
more bumping run on Jefferson man, because he was getting
opened quite a lot, and he was giving them seven
to eight yards at any given an any given time, man,

(01:34:52):
and they was eating that up. Can I get you
guys comment on that? And then what's going on with
the bumping run concept?

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
So I think John, real quick, I think with the
bump and run, like what you're discussing, I think maybe
they had a mindset of don't let him have the
home run, the big play, but instead you saw the
chunk not the chunk plays, but you saw the multiple
seven eight yard ten yards here, seven yards there, eight
yards there. So I think maybe that in the secondary,
you know, there's been some things that needs to be

(01:35:19):
fixed across these these first three weeks. Man, they give
up too many chunk plays. You saw it against Indianapolis
right with the with the wide receiver, two huge plays
with him getting behind the secondary. So I think that
might have been a point of emphasis. But either way, man,
like all the way around, they got their ass kicked yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Yeah, yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 5 (01:35:40):
It was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Man.

Speaker 25 (01:35:40):
I was using my hangkhell voice with Bobby.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Hey, damnit Bobby, damn it, Bobby, damn it, Bobby.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Enjoy your day.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
I love you guys, Man, appreciate you.

Speaker 14 (01:35:53):
John.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
We love you too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Damn it, Bobby, get off that horse. I'm gonna kick
your ass. Oh man.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
Yeah, it's it's just not good man. No, it was
ugly man at thirty four to seven. Yeah, you look
at what they run the football fourteen times. That's never
gonna win football games. You threw the ball forty four
times and you only ran at fourteen. It's yeah, yeah,
it was ugly. It was ugly all the way around.
And then you know, we talked about it earlier. Actually,

(01:36:22):
we pretty much talked about it all show. Lamby Tunzel
has got to figure it out. You gotta be better.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
You have to be better.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
You're supposed to be one of the best left tackles
in the game, one of the best left tackles in
the game. Does not have ten penalties through three games.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
That's over three. That's that's over three a game, six
and one game.

Speaker 13 (01:36:45):
Come on, man, damn.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Two of them were on Two of those penalties were
on third down conversions in the first and second quarter.
First and second quarter third down conversions both wiped away
because of Laramie Tunseel penalties. Inexcuseable. Man, they gotta get fixed. Oh,
ain't got no choice. I think they got to who

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they got the Jags next. Yeah, man, So you're gonna
have a divisional opponent. That's gonna be a big one.
You gotta gotta win those division games.

Speaker 14 (01:37:18):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
We're gonna welcome in.

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(01:38:28):
Steve welcome in Astros with a chance tonight to clinch
the AL West title. And I want you to think
real quick, they were ten and twenty four at one time,
ten games out of the AL West. We know the
adjustments that have been made, and we know the type
of team and culture and clubhouse that this organization has.
But honestly, did you think that the Astros with that

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start would be in a position tonight to clinch the
AO West?

Speaker 13 (01:38:56):
If I'm being honest, I'd probably say no.

Speaker 26 (01:38:58):
I remember taking back then, just the end of it
and just thinking, man, I don't know if they can
climb out of this. And don't forget, man, they've chased
so many wins all year long with leverage pitchers in
tie games down by one or two that even if
they were able to climb out of it a little bit,
I didn't know if they have enough to get to
the end. So what they've been able to do is

(01:39:19):
pretty been pretty remarkable pitching wise. Man, it's amazing to
see the turnaround with Hunter Brown and Spencer arrogantting those
guys to get to.

Speaker 13 (01:39:30):
Where they are right now.

Speaker 26 (01:39:32):
But to be honest, when they were twelve and twenty four, Brian,
I don't think they. I didn't think they were gonna
make it.

Speaker 13 (01:39:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
I think a lot of people thought, just like you.
I know me personally, Steve. I thought to myself, Man,
is this golden age? Is this window closing that quick?

Speaker 9 (01:39:49):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Is Joe a spot as rookie season as a manager
going to go out the window like that? But we've
seen the pitching turnaround, Like you said, Hunter Brown has
been phenomenal. But I want to talk about you, say Kakucci,
because there has been there was so much made about
the trade, Joey Loperfido, Will Wagner, Jake bloss All, leaving
a lot of a lot of a lot of really

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good prospects given up for you, say Kakuci, Oh Rental
and Steve. He has just been so damn good. So Mike,
not just the question about him here, but what were
the Blue Jays thinking by not throwing his change up?
They threw it like at a twelve percent clip when
he was there. I just don't understand it from a
pitching perspective, you.

Speaker 13 (01:40:30):
Know what, they felt that the curveball was better than
the slider too.

Speaker 26 (01:40:33):
And don't forget he's tweaked it a little bit that,
you know, with the urgence of the Astros to be
able to get a little bit more depth to it.

Speaker 13 (01:40:40):
But they tweaked it in the sense that they felt
like his slider could be a much better pitched in
a different location.

Speaker 26 (01:40:46):
So what the Astros are able to do, I mean,
I would imagine everybody has what they have at their
disposal as far as being able to see what works
the best, but the Astros are able to implement these
things better than anybody else. And I guess, Brian, it's
because of the track record they had that everybody's going
to buy in, because you know Garrett Cole and Charlie

(01:41:07):
Morton and all these guys who have come to the
Astros and gotten it better, even at an advanced age.
So you come here and you do that, and you
see what you've gotten, perfect nine to oh record after that,
and don't forget.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
I mean, they were.

Speaker 26 (01:41:21):
Behind the eight ball as far as trying to get
that trade done done because there were so many teams
buying for pitchers and the Astros singled him out. He
was a swing and mis pitcher that they felt they
could get better, and they overpaid for sure, but they
had to to get it, and it's worked out well,
and they would do it one hundred times over now

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looking at what they've gotten.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Yeah, and especially with the way that they've played what
it was nine and oh when he starts, I think
it's nine and oh now, I mean, it's just it's unbelievable.
And you know, who's to say that they won't make
a run in him this offseason to try to bring
him back into the rotation.

Speaker 13 (01:41:57):
Absolutely true. Man, he loves it here.

Speaker 26 (01:41:59):
I talked to his interpreter and everybody else, Like he says, Man,
this organization is first class. I love everything about it.
You know, as soon as we got here, we'd heard
they said, we'd heard that. You know, this is a
little bit different over here, but now we see it
and it's a desirable place to play.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
You love love hearing that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
Astros broadcaster Steve Sparks are joining us here on the
Sean Salisbury Show, as he does every single Monday during
baseball season at eight thirty. All right, here's the hot topic, Steve,
and I know everyone's talked about it over the weekend,
justin Verlander another subpar outing. You know, he spoke to
the media After the game, he talked about maybe rushing

(01:42:39):
back from the injury. He was out for two months.
He wanted to help down the stretch. Where do you
see this going with him? As far as the rotation
in the playoffs's concern because he still has one more
start in the regular season scheduled. But honestly, what what
are we thinking here for the you know what, just
for the wildcard series?

Speaker 26 (01:43:01):
Well, for the wild card series. I think that they'll
probably just use twelve pitchers. They'll only put twelve on
the roster, keep an extra position guy if you need
a pinch runner or to pinch hit a little extra,
you know, in certain games. So the extra position player
in a potential three game series is more advantageous, I think.

Speaker 13 (01:43:20):
So that's where we'll start. So there's less of a.

Speaker 26 (01:43:24):
Spot for anybody, you know, considering what they're gonna do
on how many starters and how many relievers they might need.
And it's a tough decision. It's a very tough decision.
And mer Lander knows that he probably came back to
early and he's still trying to figure a couple of
things out. You see little glimpses of what you're thinking

(01:43:44):
all right man. The first couple of innings the other day.
With the elevated fastball, we're starting to see some swinging mits.
I just don't know if the time is going to
run out, and it's a tough decision. I'm not gonna
make it. Joe's spot is gonna make it, and that
of respect for Jill, in respect for Justin Verlander, who's
been one of the best pitchers the Astros have ever had.

(01:44:05):
I know it's gonna be tough on everybody involved, whether
they keep him on the roster or not. So we'll see,
you know, I hope he pitches great that last game
and makes a decision even harder.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
You know, one thing that comes to mind Steve is
hearing him talk to the media and say that he
maybe rushed back too soon from the injury. So I
look back to the history of him here at the Astros,
when he had Tommy John and he was rehabbing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
He did his own thing, which is fine, did his
own thing, was in Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
Rehabbing, wasn't really around the organization, wasn't really around his
teammates at a time, which look, he's one of the
consummate pros in this game. And he did not rush
back from a Tommy John surgery. Now again Tommy John
completely different from what he just went through. But why
rush because in the same sentence he said, look, these
guys when I was gone, they pitched their ass off.

(01:44:54):
So Justin Verlander, why would.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
He rush back?

Speaker 13 (01:44:57):
Because of the calendar, because of where they were the schedule.

Speaker 26 (01:45:01):
He knew he needed a ramp up to get ready
for postseason, and he needed five or six starts to
get to that point. So I think it was strictly calendar.
And when he tried to get back and realize, all right,
this is almost like spring training. I'm gonna have to
escalate pretty quickly, and he probably just calculated, ay, I
need five or six starts to be where I want
to be to get to the postseason. And and you know,

(01:45:23):
in hindsight, he's realized that he probably did come back
too quickly because he doesn't probably feel the same life
in his arm, the same extension, all those things that
you need to be justin Verland, do.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
You let's just say, just hypothetically speaking here, let's say
the Astros win the Wildcard Series, but they have to
go three games. Would could you see Justin Verlanders starting
game one of an albs on the road.

Speaker 13 (01:45:49):
He's certain, he's certainly a candidate. We'll see what he
does the next day. He's got one more game.

Speaker 26 (01:45:55):
I saw some glimpses in that last game where you're
starting to see swinging mess and we saw the previous
game where he's having a hard time putting guys away.

Speaker 13 (01:46:03):
So we'll just have to wait and see. Do I
think somebody has or other guys have a leg up.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
On him right now?

Speaker 26 (01:46:09):
Yes, but I'm not willing to say he's not gonna
be on a postseason roster. As the Astros go for it.
He's Justin Verlander, so we'll see. You know, they've got
a lot of good candidates. I think that's the best
thing about this whole thing is there's a whole lot
of options for the Astros. And when you're talking about
Justin Verlander left off of postseason roster, it's because you

(01:46:32):
have the good fortune of five guys that are pitching fantastically,
who are all good candidates to pitch a start and
a game, start a game in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
Astros broadcaster Steve Sparks joining us here on The Sean
Salisbury Show. He joins us every single Monday at eight
thirty in the morning. Our last thing on Justin Verlander.
You know, you said you saw glimpses in the swing
and miss stuff. You know just as well as I do.
When it comes to postseason baseball, it's about momentum in games.
There are so many big plays, so many you know,

(01:47:03):
momentum shifts, and there are times where a pitcher has
got to have that stuff that's gonna get him a
big time strikeout when things aren't going well to shut
down that momentum, whether it be you know, you got
a guy at second base with one out, next next thing,
you know, you've got to have a big strikeout. And
now now you're forcing the hitter to have a two
strike or I'm sorry, a two out hit to score

(01:47:24):
that run. I just for me, and this is where
I'm getting your expertise. I just haven't seen the strikeout
stuff from Justin Verlander here lately.

Speaker 13 (01:47:34):
I agree with that, So that's where we are right now.

Speaker 26 (01:47:37):
I agree that we're not seeing the strikeout capability that he,
you know, typically possesses. So that's where we are right now.
There's one more start for him to see if he
you know he came back too quickly. We don't know
exactly where he might be in a week or ten
days when he.

Speaker 13 (01:47:55):
Could possibly start.

Speaker 26 (01:47:56):
I think it's pretty clear that the Astros will probably
go from er Hunter, Brown and Kakuchi to start the
first three games of a wildcard series if it goes three.

Speaker 13 (01:48:06):
Other than that, I think it's a little bit up
in the air. You're looking at a couple.

Speaker 26 (01:48:11):
Of guys in Blanco and Arraghetty who've pitched way more
innings than they ever have. Let's just let it play
out just a little bit longer. I think first things first,
I mean, you win a game as quickly as possible
in the series against Seattle, and you get everybody more
rested so they all have more swing and miss, because
right now a lot of guys are on fumes, including

(01:48:32):
the position players. But you said it, I mean swing
and miss is critical in the playoffs, and the Astros
have a lot of guys who can get swinging miss.
They lead the American League in swing and miss. But
they got to get well rested to be able to
have that lively stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:48:49):
A couple more minutes with Astros broadcaster Steve Sparks every Monday,
eight thirty, right here on the Shawn Salisbury Show, Jordan
Alvarez and his knee. It's you know, I saw an
article this morning that said, quote unquote, not good. Have
you heard anything early this morning? Obviously we have not here.
You know, you're you're you know you have. You are

(01:49:09):
more in tune than we are a little bit. What
are you hearing, if anything, or what's your concern level
with Jordan Alvarez and this knee injury.

Speaker 26 (01:49:17):
I'm hearing that they dodged the bullet, and well, they'll
know a lot more when he gets to the ballpark
today to see how sore it is. But I'm hearing
that they dodged a bullet and it's a better case
scenario than we probably feared at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
Oh man, you got to have that big man. You
got to have that big man in the lineup come postseason.
I mean, he is so good in the postseason.

Speaker 13 (01:49:39):
They need him in this series. Yeah, I've heard that
they dodged a bullet. Okay, So it's good news.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
And then also on the injury front, Chas McCormick, obviously
we're hoping he can come back and make you know,
some sort of impact with with his role and then
Ben more more so on Ben, we're gonna be done
for the year. When they picked him up off the
waiver wire, he came in and filled in that spot
for Kyle Tucker and and hit extremely well. Can you

(01:50:08):
just talk to me a little bit of a little
bit about the loss of him and what it's Uh,
you know, with the depth aspect with Ben Gamble, you
know when you get a veteran.

Speaker 13 (01:50:18):
You know to come in and we're seeing it now
with Jason Hayward. Uh, they just give you professionalism and
good at bats.

Speaker 26 (01:50:24):
Gamble worked accounts, they knew what they were looking for,
They had a great approach at the plate, played solid
defense for good teammates. I mean, they fit in immediately.
Hayward's the same way. He's like he had fit in immediately.
He's like taking a couple of guys under their wings.
He's out by the batting cage right now, even when
he's not hitting outside that particular day and he's helping guys.

(01:50:48):
It's it's unbelievable how these guys get into the groove
of these of these teams in a situation like this.
So I just feel like They've done a good job
of bringing the right type of people into this situation
where these guys can even help him get to another level.
They miss guys like Michael Brantley, you know, and a

(01:51:10):
few other guys the last few years that have gone
on to play other places.

Speaker 13 (01:51:13):
But the guys they bring in are the right one
so gamble Jason Hayward.

Speaker 26 (01:51:18):
A couple of these guys are making impact, even if
you don't see it on the stat sheet.

Speaker 4 (01:51:22):
All right, last thing with Astro's broadcaster Steve Sparks, Josh
Hader gave it up last night.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
Are you excuse me? Yesterday afternoon?

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
What do you see from him? Where he gets himself
into trouble? Is it fastball command? Is it leaving it
up in the zone? Where does he struggle? In your mind?

Speaker 26 (01:51:42):
I think he's got one pitch in my mind that's
a little scary. It can be devastating at times, but
he throws the back door slider to right handed hitters,
which is easy to yank every once in a while
and get into the happy zone of the guys, you know,
kind of a pull power type pitch, two seam fastball

(01:52:02):
on the top rail, gets a little loose sometimes don't
forget he's thrown I think seven games this year where
he's done more than one inning.

Speaker 13 (01:52:10):
He's pitched a ton.

Speaker 26 (01:52:12):
Another reason why I feel like the Astros need to
clinch this thing pretty quickly so they can rest some
of these guys and not pitch. You know, if it
gets to the third game of the series and this
Astro the Astros haven't won yet, you know you're.

Speaker 13 (01:52:25):
Biting your nails. Hater's probably coming in the eighth day.

Speaker 26 (01:52:29):
It's just weird. Stuff might happen. They don't pan it
very often, but you get what I'm saying, Man, they
need to win early in this series to rest some
of these guys. Haters pitched a ton. A Bray who's
pitched a ton. There's been a lot of guys that
need a little bit of a break here.

Speaker 13 (01:52:49):
As we get just ten days away from the postseason.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
I cannot believe it's already ten days away.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Yeah, it's great, but uh man, what those players won't
tell you the same thing.

Speaker 26 (01:53:02):
I mean, it's been a long hault, especially when you
start off as slowly as they did. To be able
to get to where they are, Man, that's a it's
a big credit to the coaching staff and the culture
that say step for this team not to panic when
guys like me and you were probably panicking a little
bit thinking that this run might be over.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
I was all hand up one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Ye was.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
There's no doubt about it, all right, Uh, Steve, you
know al West, if they clinch it tonight, is there
a chance that you might be knocking down a couple
of beverages in that clubhouse?

Speaker 13 (01:53:35):
There is little chance that. Uh, there's a little chance
that I won't be down there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
So you will be down there.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
But what comes to follow you're just gonna have to
listen to it right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Is that fair?

Speaker 13 (01:53:50):
That's fair? Absolutely fair.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:53:52):
I don't know what I'm doing when I go down there,
They'll put it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
That's that's me in life. Brother, Like every day, I
don't know what I'm doing. I'm just here too.

Speaker 13 (01:53:59):
Let's just let's just be unprofessional together.

Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
Yeah we yeah, exactly, That's that's how we That's how
we live our life.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:54:07):
You know, we always appreciate you here on the Shawn
Salisbury Show. Thank you for your time this morning, and
and I can't wait to listen to you celebrate that
AO West title tonight because they're gonna win it tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
So let's go ahead and get that thing done.

Speaker 13 (01:54:19):
That's good, Brian, take everybody. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
That is ASTROS broadcaster Steve Sparks joining us. We'll take
a break. We'll discuss it next on sport Stock seven aty.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
This is the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Feeling good man, feeling better. Yeah, taking a lot of
good meds to get through this pneumonia. So I'm all right,
crack rough rough week No, no, no crack, no, no crack.
That probably helped temporarily, but I've I've never had crack,
but I would imagine it works for a minute. But
I'll pass on the crack. All kinds of crack, mind

(01:54:56):
you all of it?

Speaker 23 (01:54:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Okay, yeah I.

Speaker 9 (01:54:59):
Too.

Speaker 13 (01:55:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Oh man, I.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
Had committed to Dan Patrick's show last Yeah, I was
doing that at the same time. Yeah, it's I'm sure
they're excited to clinch tonight, So meaning the Astros, that'd
be great.

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
Yeah, not clinch the crack.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
No, No, you don't want that. You don't want that, man,
pneumonia out of nowhere. I had no idea, brother, but
Friday had kicked in on my answer show, like, man,
what in the hell. So I had to go get
scanned cause I was like, what's going on? It's not
like me. I don't get I don't I don't get
like this. And then I went in there and they said, oh,
after cat scan and everything, thinking it was something else,
and so it's pneumonia. Oh great. So just sat around

(01:55:38):
the crib all weekend, man, trying to get healthy. But
I'm glad to be back man, glad to be on
and rolling through it today.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
All good man, how's everything going with to Dan ats?

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Oh they were good Man would loved we talked about
Dan had asked if the Texans fans were giving the
Texans a Hall pass. They said, well, it makes it
easier when the askers are about to clinch tonight. I said,
but no Hall passed. They're tired of the penalties and
they know that this team could fix it, but there's
some thanks missing from the early season. So I don't
think it's all pass. I think it's not a concern,
but uh, it's uneasy because they have not played their

(01:56:12):
best game yet full on offense and defense. I still
think the defense flies around. They do they just ran
into an offense and a team that just outplayed them.
Sometimes the other team who's getting paid two just does
it better than you on a Sunday, and they did.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Yeah, no question.

Speaker 4 (01:56:30):
Let's get into the nine o'clock hour Sean, Steve Sparks.
We talked about Justin Verlander. I think there's some discussion
points with Verlander that we need to discuss because obviously,
if it's a wildcard series, that's one thing, but an
Alds it could set up to where he might have
to start a Game one or a Game two. So

(01:56:51):
let's let's get into that. Also, John Brandon Ron and
we see you guys waiting. Will get to you next
as we continue to roll on into the nine o'clock hour.
Right here on Sports seven ninety.

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Before we get out to the phone line seven one
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general manager Dana Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
He joined the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:55):
Pregame show, as he does every single Sunday. You can
catch that, uh, the pregame show. We obviously we have
our on deck show and then it leads to the
network pregame show with Robert Ford. He joins Robert every
single Sunday. This is Dana Brown talking about the role
for Justin Verlander in the playoffs.

Speaker 27 (01:58:16):
Yeah, you know the thing is he you know, he
feels like he came back too soon. That's just the
competitive nature of JV. You know, he's a gamer. I mean,
I don't have to describe him to the people of
Houston and what he's done here. But you know, well
we're gonna probably you know, monitor to him closely just
to see where it is. We'll we'll get through this

(01:58:38):
first round and to make some type of decision. But
it's kind of unfortunate that you know, he really tried
to grind through and get back and you know, it
wasn't as good as he knows he's capable of doing.
But ultimately we'll we'll take another look, you know, after
you know, the first round and see where we're at.

(01:58:58):
But you know, just a class individual, class human being,
you don't, you know, this is the type of guy.
He wouldn't want to put the club in jeopardy of
you know, uh, you know, losing games, and so I'm
sure that he'll he'll want to do what's best for
the team.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
That's Dana Brown with Robert Ford just sounds like that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
Is simply preparing, simply preparing you for the fact that
Dan Lander that he is not throwing in the first
series when it comes to start starting pitching, right, that
he will that you won't see him. And you know what,
it's the right decision. It just is. Yeah, it starts.
You got to see those are the you get You've
got to run out whoever it is now is you
move on depending on how quickly and where it lines

(01:59:42):
up and when you might have to for rest. Wise
he's gonna get a start, i'd imagine. But it's not
going to be in the first.

Speaker 13 (01:59:50):
Series, No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:59:51):
He's probably not even be on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Yeah, there's no point. I mean, it's it's uh, like
I said, the Lifetime Achievement Award and how good he
he's been and this isn't saying his career is over.
But right now he doesn't give the staff the best
chance to win. He knows it, Dana knows it. It's
not Listen, crap happens. Trying to get himself back, He's
tried to work his way through it. He's not the

(02:00:14):
same guy right now. Hopefully he will be moving forward,
but you got to You've got to go with what
gives the entire organization the best chance. And unfortunately Kucha
for for Verlander, Cacucci and Hunter Brown and from er
Valdez and quite frankly at times Spencer Aarraghetti and most
of the timeer Nel Blanco have all been better. They

(02:00:36):
just have. Now, if you're worried about experience, I get
why that would come into play, because we've seen the
guy a million times in these situations, But for just
the betterment of the team, the first three you can't.
You cannot question it. There is no there's no latitude there.
Those are your three starters.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
Yep. I don't think anyone. I mean, who can man.

Speaker 4 (02:00:57):
I know we had a caller earlier talk about Verlanders
show to pitch the opening game.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
But no, not not in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (02:01:03):
On your opinion, I think a lot of people he
shouldn't be on the roster when it comes to the
wild card. Now, when you get to the Alds, you
got to figure out matchups, rotations, things like that. That's
a different a different conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 4 (02:01:17):
And again he has you know, he has one start
left scheduled for this season down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
But I don't do you think it matters.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Sean, No, for him, it does. Yeah, and play I'll
tell you what it does matter. It does matter for
the next series. It matters for them to say, Okay,
that looked more like him to the point where if
he goes out there and throws seven innings in his
dominant ninety pitches and you're like, okay, now we got
the guy back, he'll be ready. That tells us we
have the confidence to run him out there in the

(02:01:48):
series two. That's the first series two. Yes, I think
it does matter, and that for the optics from the
front office. Joe A. Spada as well and for Justin
Verlander himself and his confidence to feel like he's dialed in,
and so that does matter. But if you're talking about
if that, if his next start matters in the first
series of the playoffs, the answer is no, it will

(02:02:09):
be Fromber, Hunter Brown, Kokuchi. I don't know what order
I'm assuming Fromber's going first. I would imagine Hunter Brown second.
Those are your three starters, those are the guys you
run out there. So I think it does matter for
the next series. Say, okay, now that looks like Now
you go with Gary said about experience. You say, man,
his last start looked pretty dominant. We got experience. We

(02:02:31):
got a guy who's a kg veteran who can handle pressure.
All right, we'll feel a little more secure with him
in the next round. But in the first round, this
start will have no bearing on if he pitches as
a starter in the first round. I believe that rotation set.

Speaker 4 (02:02:44):
Yeah, I believe that as well. Seven one three, two,
one two, five seven ninety To talk to John. What's
happening to John?

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 14 (02:02:53):
God?

Speaker 12 (02:02:54):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Son? Get well? Man? Get well? Get well? Yeah, you
know you're my man?

Speaker 11 (02:03:01):
He nicka uh the little baseball first, I think the
Astros need the contentry on ending this thing in the
night and so they could get healthy and rest uff
and get your done, get them ready for the you know,
for the playoffs. I think JV I think he needed
just realize for all the time's undefeated and he needed
to just be a you know, just just cheer on

(02:03:23):
the team and and and remove hisself from any kind
of rotation because he just ain't got it, you know,
but that's okay, he just ain't got enough football. I
feel like the Texans need to start reading their own
press clippings. I realized that, uh Joe nixons and when
he's out there. But see, no, if you not playing

(02:03:43):
then didn't then you can't help the team because this
chun you know this, this the NFL man ain't no
such thing as a great quarterback on coming to the
NFL without a running game and beating nobody.

Speaker 13 (02:03:56):
And that's what's happening with the with the Texas.

Speaker 11 (02:03:59):
Man, they have no running game. The running game was
not consistent. And and and jay Z he just he
just sitting duck back there man in the NFL. So Sean,
you can speak on that a little bit. But I
feel like once Nixon get.

Speaker 9 (02:04:13):
Back and everything there sundown, but you.

Speaker 11 (02:04:15):
Got to realize Irene Press Clippers, Uh, you ain't got
there yet, and I think that you got to get
your running game going, you'd be all right. But yeah,
for the Astros going and getting itsisting at night.

Speaker 13 (02:04:29):
Take the rest up and I hang up and listen.

Speaker 4 (02:04:31):
Thank you, John, and real quick, let's get out to
Brandon Brandon, good morning, Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 28 (02:04:39):
Good morning, Sean. How are you guys doing. How y'all's weekend?

Speaker 3 (02:04:43):
It was smart, fantastic. I don't know about Seawan's though.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
Yeah, I was a little under the weather or a
lot under the weather, but I'm good man, thank you.
How about you?

Speaker 6 (02:04:52):
It was good.

Speaker 28 (02:04:52):
I watched the whole game the Texans. I didn't watch
the Texas and it was to a.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
Oh you didn't miss much in the Texans, Brandon.

Speaker 6 (02:05:06):
Yeah, I heard what you was. But we're can play again,
Yeah we are?

Speaker 1 (02:05:12):
We sure?

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
Are you excited for the Astros can win the al
Wes tonight? You excited?

Speaker 6 (02:05:16):
Yes, we're going to clients tonight. We are they they
were Steve was saying Nat today.

Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
He sure was appreciate the call. Brandon go astros right, Yeah.

Speaker 28 (02:05:29):
Singing on which you tell when when Steve and Robert comes,
would you tell him?

Speaker 3 (02:05:34):
I said, hih, we sure will, Brandon. I appreciate it
you too, thank you?

Speaker 1 (02:05:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
Is Bobby Slowan holding back this offense?

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
Sean, I'm holding back? Said? Whatever sold him back? There
feels a little bit lack of aggressive first three weeks.
I mean defense does have something to do with that, yardage, situations,
game planning, all that. But I do think I subscribe
to the every team. I mean, when you've got the

(02:06:08):
offense they have, even if it's not complete, I like
to come out and attack deep early, threaten them early,
then back them off. Yeah, I do. I think that
when you have the weapons and it sends a psychological message,
you go take your shots. And you know, when you
play a Brian Flores team, a defensive coordinator like him,
you're going to get one on one opportunity. The problem is,

(02:06:28):
can't hold the ball along because the protection's breaking down
pretty quickly. When you got more to you know, more
Russian than you got the block. And I thought a
couple times yesterday Stroud, it was great, guy comes off
the slot, Bam hit a slant in behind him. Guy
comes off the edge, Boom, throw a flat route right
in front of his face, so you can beat the blitz.
I think those built in hot reads make it easy.

(02:06:50):
That's the quick game to get it out so you
don't have to check. It's already built in. They blitz
boom will hit a slant in behind it or an adjustment.
But it's the it's the shots. I'm looking forward to
seeing them. They were at their best last year when
they were pushing the ball down the field and then
mixing stuff in because it creates a little more space.

(02:07:11):
It just does. But when you let a team squeeze
you and they continue to squeeze you and then at
a desperation you're taking shots, then you're in a chase mote.
So the shots got to come early. Bobby knows that.
Am I panicked about the play caller three games in. No.
I think they've been disrupted by the lack of Joe Mixon.
I do. I think it's kind of gotten them in
an uncomfortable situation where it feels one dimensional, and it

(02:07:33):
has been that they're not really a threat to run.
And if you're not a threat to run, I can
do a lot of stuff with my defense to prevent
you from getting the ball to your big time weapons,
the vertical passing game, win in early downs, on first down,
and the run of the regardless of the back is.
You got to move the pile. It just goes to
show you how valuable Joe Mixon was in game one.

(02:07:55):
But got to get him healthy and back on the
football field, because one dimensional teams have a heart time
winning in this league unless you're I mean you can,
but I'm talking about consistently. No, I'm not worried about
slow getting back into it slowan, but I am worried
about being one dimensional too long without Joe Mixon.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
I am Bobby Slovak.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Yeah who calls him Slovak? Who's a Slovak guy?

Speaker 13 (02:08:17):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
Who?

Speaker 9 (02:08:18):
Do you got?

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
Andy's ay? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (02:08:22):
Seven seven ninety, got more more fellows that want to
get in on the Texans discussion and justin Verlander, you
know that playoffs right around the corner for the Stros.
I can clinch the AO West and I will continue
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Speaker 13 (02:09:39):
Now back to Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 12 (02:09:43):
Ronnie Welcome, in Good morning guys, Sean, get over that
pa pneumonia? Man. Yeah, no, I haven't had I haven't
had it, but I know it's tough. One part whiskey,
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Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
How about three parts whiskey and then a fourth part whisky.

Speaker 12 (02:10:06):
Well, honey does help?

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Now there are there is?

Speaker 12 (02:10:10):
It helps your immune system?

Speaker 1 (02:10:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:10:12):
Listen, one thing, Brian, you didn't get to talk about
with Steve because you had a lot of things going on.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
Did you.

Speaker 12 (02:10:19):
Taylor Scott? Is he on the idea in on the
I L. And if he is, did I hear Robert
say the other day that he won't be able to
come back until after the wild Card series.

Speaker 4 (02:10:32):
Yeah, he's on the fifteen day I L with a
back injury. So it looks like it's actually it's theoretic
spine stream.

Speaker 12 (02:10:41):
So thoracic spine string.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
Yeah, okay, don't.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Believe eligible until after that Wildcard series.

Speaker 12 (02:10:47):
Well that's that's all right, because although he has been
really contributing quite a.

Speaker 8 (02:10:52):
Bit in the middle innings.

Speaker 18 (02:10:55):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (02:10:55):
And I don't know how are you gonna the position players?
I can understand how you can rest them because you
go Wickham, Salazar and Kessinger who haven't played much. But
how can you rest any of the pictures at say
they win tonight. How can you rest any of the
pictures this week? When they're throwing five, six and seven
pictures every night anyway, there's no way to happen. I

(02:11:19):
don't think you can bring back any guys from Sugar
Lamb because they're going into their own playoffs a series,
I think. So it's just I don't know how. I
don't know how you can rest hater Presley and a
Bravehew when they got to pitch every day anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
And you, Rodnie, you don't want Let's let's just say
you were in a situation which you don't want. Do
you want your back into bullpen not seeing any action
for a week? I mean, you got to keep it.
We got to get him some work, right, Is that
that's what you're saying. I'm at the rest. Yeah, Well
you're going to get them week go by, right? Right?

Speaker 13 (02:11:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (02:11:53):
And even if you wanted to give them a week
for uh with no work, who are you going to
put in there?

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
Right? Exactly? What are you going to do? I mean
they're bullten guys. There they got to Now. If that
means you don't want to put Hater in a safe
position two nights and three nights in a row, I
get it. But work with a little bit of rest
and maybe mix a match, give another guy an extra
inning who hasn't pitched as long. But I don't think
you want to go into the postseas saying hey man,

(02:12:20):
you haven't seen the mound now. Maybe for some if
their arms tired, but I think you want to keep
a fairly normal routine of making sure they're getting just
enough rest and and enough work as well. I don't
like to take complete momentum away. So it's going to
be interesting with these decisions, especially if they get this
clinch done tonight and then there's a little time between
now and the end of the season.

Speaker 12 (02:12:41):
Right, And as far as Verlander goes, I don't understand
why everybody's so worried about There's about forty million reasons
not to worry about Verlander.

Speaker 3 (02:12:53):
Did we lose Ronnie?

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
Still there?

Speaker 12 (02:12:56):
No, I've got to hang up. O.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
It's all right, Let's talk to Noah. Noah, good morning, Hey,
good morning guys.

Speaker 22 (02:13:06):
Yeah, I was just trying to echo that guy's sentiments too,
but in a different way. I think everybody needs to
relax about Verlander because I believe his next start is
on the road at Cleveland, which is whom the Astros.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
Would face in the second round.

Speaker 22 (02:13:26):
And look, he's the bright lights aren't going to affect him,
absolute dominant veteran, and I'm sure he knows. Hey, if
I carve people up next week, not only have i
gotten in Cleveland's head, but now I've gotten support from
Dana and Joe and it sets up pretty well. And
then vice versa. If he doesn't, well, now you've got

(02:13:49):
Ronell Berengetti. I mean, the staff is really set And
then look at tonight, Hunter Brown. That is a playoff
atmosphere tonight with the opportunity to clinch. I think the
staff is set up really well and just wanted to
know y'all thoughts.

Speaker 1 (02:14:06):
Thank you agree, And we're saying the staff is set
up well and that they're the strength of the team
and five starters are still out hurt. It's a it's
a It really is. When you really do a deep
dive when this season is over, I know, we get
caught up in game of the game, we're gonna look
back and say, damn to do. What they've done is
nothing short of fantastic. And yes, this is a playoff

(02:14:28):
atmosphere because you want to clinch and Verlanders start right well,
for him, it's just to create for his next start
is to go dominate and be put yourself in position
where they trust things are getting better for the next round.
We know who's pitching the first three games if it
goes out, we know who is and he is a
veteran and you trust that part of it. But this

(02:14:50):
start is not just a throwaway start for him or
the next series. There is no question about it. Ronnie
made good points and Noah, you did the same it really,
I mean, And the truth is, don't feel sorry. I mean,
we just don't put a guy in because he's been good.
You put a guy in while he's good now if
he'd had one bad start. But you know, it's still
the justin Berlin. It's just been unfortunate the last handful

(02:15:12):
of not been who he is. And maybe the Cleveland
startle will fix.

Speaker 4 (02:15:16):
That, yeah, hopefully, because if not, then I don't think
they see him throughout the playoffs at.

Speaker 1 (02:15:22):
All, at least not starting no, at least not starting.

Speaker 4 (02:15:26):
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Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:17:32):
Yeah, but it's not my fault.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
Yeah, I confess it's on the It was on the outside.
Birds chirping. You know what I'm saying. Rooster woke them up.

Speaker 6 (02:17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
No, we we know how good tunsl can be. You
just got to stop that. He's gotta he's got to
fix it. He's got to go to work and be disciplined,
if that means show his shoes in some cement during
the practice week so he doesn't jump off side and
get anxious. That's that's an example. He has got to
be the leader of that.

Speaker 4 (02:18:00):
Yeah, what did he he said? Uh, you feel like
the referees, I wouldn't say head it out.

Speaker 3 (02:18:09):
Let me let me find that. Uh specific they.

Speaker 1 (02:18:12):
Don't have it in for the Texans or they don't.
They're not using them as an example. I mean they
use Ronnie Stanley as an example of the open game.
They're calling it closer. So you have to adjust, whether
we like the rule or not. But those illegal procedure penalties,
not just the alignment where you're jumping off sides too
early four times in a game. Yeah, that shouldn't happen
four times in a season. Dude, It's it's alarming. Yeah,

(02:18:33):
this is stuff. You're like, this is this You'd think
it was a joke. This is it's a Saturday Night
Live skin. You can't keep doing this. And he's a
great player. He's got to get it fixed.

Speaker 4 (02:18:41):
Yeah, he said. Quote uh, this is on the false starts,
he said, quote false arts. I want people to understand
we all have to be on the same communication. I'll
take accountability because they're calling my name, but it takes
all of us end quote had a boy at a boy?

Speaker 1 (02:18:54):
What it takes? Okay, what exactly does that mean? Is
that just the quarterbacks? Cadence? Who we can blame it
on the right guard? Who else's fault? And you jump?
Explain to me if it's on too and you jump,
whose fault is that is? Who's that on?

Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
It's it's Laramie Tunzel's fault.

Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
I just it's not even a man. I don't even
care whose fault it is. That's the part accountability all
the way around. You just can't put your team in
a mind rookies aren't doing it? Why are you? And I,
like I said, I am a huge tons of fans.
The hell of a player win the ball stamped, There's
no worse than the league before the ball stamped. It's
it's that simple. Got to stop it. He's got to

(02:19:37):
be better. It's putting the team in a mind and
that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (02:19:40):
Just is Yeah, I just can't believe he actually said that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:43):
And that's not the only reason they won. They got
beat yesterday. Minnesota was more physical, their pass rush was relentless.
Even though both teams got to the quarterback, their quarterback
played better than ours.

Speaker 3 (02:19:58):
I'm not sure what's going on. Yeah, I'm not sure either.
Johnny's still there.

Speaker 13 (02:20:06):
Must have.

Speaker 4 (02:20:08):
Got a little technical difficulties here. But also Laramie Tunsel
on the illegal formation calls, he said, quote, they tried
to make an example out of us. The first two weeks,
we line up with the same, lined up the same
with no problem. Now it's a problem. I feel like
somebody told them to make an example out of us.
Got to call it the same, both sides end quote. Yeah,

(02:20:29):
just take a little account of ability, brother, Come on, man,
just Pro Bowl left tackle getting paid a lot of money,
arguably one of the best. Cannot continue to have all
of these penalties. He's been penalized ten times this season
in three games over three a game. She can't have

(02:20:52):
it had six yesterday. All right, well, Astros Mariners tonight
over at minim Park. Ten the first pitch, six o'clock
on Deck Show. It's Hunter Brown taking on Bryce Miller.
If the Astros beat the Mariners tonight, they are the
a L West Division champs. Sounds good, Yeah, it sounds

(02:21:15):
sounds like a plan. Go win that ballgame tonight, Hunter Brown,
the diestel eleven and eight three point five seven Era,
got a whip of one point two eight. Go get
a dub Go get that at AL West Division title lockdown.

Speaker 3 (02:21:30):
Yeah, and beat those Mariners because Mariners have one of
the worst fan bases of all time.

Speaker 13 (02:21:37):
Dorks.

Speaker 3 (02:21:38):
All right, that's gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (02:21:39):
For The John Salisbury Show, for Sean Salisbury, our producer
Triple Emmanuel elmore I and Brian Leema. Thank you for listening.
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