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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're the Sean Salisbury Show continued. We're gonna welcome in
Astros General manager Dana Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yes, and hopefully many many more wednesdays throughout the rest
of this fall for this playoff run. Dana Brown, Astro's GM,
for his nine thirty weekly visit. All right, Dana B Analysis,
do the analysis for me yesterday? Overall thoughts about your
team's performance?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, I mean we faced the tough Scooba he was
on last night. Uh, you know, we didn't get anything
going till late, and we fell short. You know, just
one of those playoff days. You know. Then we got
our backs against the wall. You know, we got to
win this game today and get out to a good start.
We got Hunter Brown going. We're fired up about that,
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and so we feel like we'll turn things around today,
even it up and be ready for the next one.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hey, Dana, with Hunter Brown, I mean, he's obviously gained
an unbelievable amount of confidence this year and overcame his
early start, and I believe this is his first postseason
start for the Astros, not performance, but postseason start. Any
reason to think that you talk about the stomach for
this moment too big? With playoff baseball, or is this
guy ready for this?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, he's pitched in the postseason before. You know, even
though this is his first first start. You know, the
way he turned things around this season, you know, added
that two seemer. You know, he's been locked in every since.
So we would expect him to be to be locked
in today and the power that stuff in there and
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get us through six or seven innings and allow us
to go to our bullpen and win this game today.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Danny, you talked about grit and resilience all season long.
In a single elimination game, I can't imagine that you
do anything more than you trust these guys one hundred
percent to get the gig done today.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean even yesterday, I have to face
in the tough Scoogle. You know, these guys grind it
through in that ninth inning, and you know, if that
ball Hayward hit is two feet to inside, you know,
two feet to you know, to the line, I mean,
the game is over. He has scored from first and
two feet the other way. You know, it's a tie
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ball game, you know, So I think these guys for
sure have the grit. You know, they'll get it done today.
You know, I'm not worried in the least. I think
these guys have what it takes, you know, you know,
to get back deep into this postseason.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Dana Brown weekly visit Astros GM down one zero here
in this wild card series.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Hun A.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Brown goes today day game against Detroit joys us for
his weekly visit Fromber. This guy's had a phenomenal season.
Dana is, uh, yesterday, did you body language anything different
for you or did we see the same fromber mentally
that we've seen on this incredible run since he got
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it right during the season.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, I almost felt like from Bert, you know, right
the pitch yesterday, instead of powering his stuff in the
in the strike zone, he fell into that pitchability guy
as opposed to cutting it loose. Let the fastball play,
you know, ninety five to ninety seven, with the heavy
sink that he has. I thought he got into like
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a pitching mode and got away from the power stuff,
the aggressiveness, you know, and and so ultimately, you know,
it's that one bad inning, you know, that's what happens
in the postseason. You can't have that that inning where
you give up multiple runs, you know, especially when you're
facing you know, a tough scoogro it's tough to score
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off them, and it's tough to bounce back.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Hey, Dana, with that, do you mentioned I think and
for fans listening in discussing this, was he too cute
yesterday instead of just letting it rip? Is that basically
where we're headed with this what you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, I don't think it's a matter of being too cute.
I just think sometimes pitchers know they know how to pitch,
and they they sometimes rely on their pitchability as opposed
to their raw ability, right, And I think he started
to pitch instead of powering it through the zone and
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just going after guys. You know, he fell into pitchability
over his raw ability.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Do you trust do you trust as the age of
the staff, do you trust that his mental toughness matches
his physical skill set?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Absolutely? I mean fromber you know, there's zero questions about it.
You know, his mental toughness, competitiveness or anything like that.
You know, the stuff that he has the you know,
the the innings that he's logged for this organization. You
know the wins that he's had he's had in this organization.
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You know, it's just a matter of you know, letting
him know. Hey, you know, let's let's let's cut it loose.
Let's not fall into pitchability. Let's go through what's your
raw ability, cut it loose and leave it all out there.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Will that conversation we had or hasn't been had with
Hunter Brown before this start and will it be had early?
I mean when they lock in and get to the ballpark,
they're in their own mode and doing their thing. But
Hunter Brown's got overpowering stuff. Is there a part of
you that wants to discuss with him making sure that
he does get into that throw your stuff and let
it rip.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, I think Brown hunder Brown's never really had that
issue in terms of, you know, starting to fall into pitchability.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
If you notice Brown always cut it loose, I love it.
I mean he's aggressive on every single pitch, and so,
you know, I think Frowner, on the other hand, he
could He's such a good pitcher that sometimes he'll fade
into that pitchability stuff, playing a little down, you know,
instead of just cutting it loose and let your raw
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ability to take over. Brown on the other hand, I mean,
it's it's it's hair on here's on fire from from
pitch one, and I mean I think he goes after it.
He throws every single pitch you know hard. I mean
he cuts it loose.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Astro's GM Data Brown for his weekly Wednesday visit. Here
Astro's down one game to none. But they've seen this
movie when it comes to having to have the grit
and toughness swell for the last eight years and today
is no different. Data, There's a there's a fine line,
and I'd like to have explained how how we go
about this as fans and media and even your team.
The difference between being aggressive, which I know you love,
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but also being selective and patient to work the count
in a single elimination game. How do you have the
where where do you fall in between the two? How
do you get them to stay aggressive but also be
patient to where they're not waving and non competitive pitches.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, absolutely, it's a fine line. I think one of
the things we have to do is make sure we
get our pitch early in the count. And if you
don't get your pitch, take it like make the picture work.
Even if he throws your strike early, that's not in
the area where you want it. Make him pitch, make
him throw some more pitches, make them work a little bit,
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you know, a couple of times yesterday we had you know,
Scoogle had two five pitch innings, you know, and that
you know sort of you know that that you know,
maybe we could have got him, gotten him to run
out of gas a little sooner, you know, had we
worked those counts a little bit better in those two innings.
But the two the two five pitch innings, you know,
that's ten pitches and two innings, and you know that's
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going to help him the cruise along where you got
to get you know, you got to get those guys
to throw a little bit, throw more pitches, make sure
that you know, you get your pitch before you take
that swing. And it's okay to take a strike if
it's not in your area your sweet spot sort of speak, Yep,
it's okay to take it, you know, if it's down
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and away at the knees, take you know, give him
an opportunity to make a mistake and then you can
do damage.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, really hard to do damage with you mentioned those
ten pitches in two innings. With a sniper like Schooble,
you just can't give great players that many or that
minimal opportunity where he's in and out and getting that
rest that he needs, no doubt. Dana Brown for a
couple more minutes here on Wednesday, Danny, you know this
team as good as anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Where's where's Jeremy Painea's head right now?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
He's had phenomenal success his rookie year in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
We know that well documented. Where's his head right now?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah? I think he's the prime example of locking in.
You know, I think Jeremy he hurts himself when he
chases a little earlier at that slider ball, you know,
the pitch off the plate, you know, the fastball. Uh.
I think Jeremy has to get locked in on his pitch.
He's one of the prime examples of you know, you
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know what we're discussing right now. If Jeremy Pinya can
just lock in to that pitch that he knows is
in his sweet and just take take everything else, and
if they give you that pitch, then do damage. Turn loose.
And I think he gets so amped up and he
wants to do so much, and he knows that he's
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so capable of doing damage, that he gets a little
two axes, and he chases early in account data.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Brown for a couple more questions here on Sports Talk
seven ninety for his weekly visit here on the Sean
Salisbury Show. How important, Dana. We talk about fans, and
we were discussing earlier. You know, the the energy in
a building and the energy to make it difficult on
the opposing team, let alone uplift your team overrated, underrated
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early game energy from fans.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, we need early game energy. But you know, we
got to give him a little something to cheer about.
You know, we we can score some runs early and
get those pictures on their heels a little bit. I think,
you know, we have a chance to op up the
floodgates in these next two games, you know, but you
know we're gonna have to get to them early. And
the way we're gonna have to do it is we're
gonna have to, you know, look for our pitch and
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then do damage. Allow this guy to throw a little
bit more pitches, give him an opportunity to get the
pitch count up and then we could do damage. I
think that's how we're gonna have to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
What's what's the lineup look like today? Any changes from yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, I mean I think you know, Joe will probably
go with a similar lineup, you know, facing the left e.
You know, not sure how long the left he will go,
So you know, you don't want to make too many
changes too soon. But I'm sure he's probably gonna have
a left hand line a right handed hitting lineup for
the most part early and then you know he'll take
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it from there based on who they bring in, who
they feel are available, who they think can throw more
pitches so that we can get the matchups right and.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Data with this. So let's go on this.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I know you've got a lot well, first off, how's
your how's your You talk about the stomach for this.
You've been around a lot of great teams and your
team and we've laughed about it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Uh, how's your stomach feel today? Mo man? How you feeling?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah? Yeah, I feel pretty good. You know, I feel great.
In at nineteen and I looked at the guys in
the box, you know, when we started to rally, and
I just looked at them and said, look, I love
postseason baseball. There's nothing like it. And you know, so
my stomach is good, my heart great, is good. I
feel like the team is gonna be good and we're
gonna be all right. You know, it's a big game
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today though. We have to get today, as you know,
and and so I feel good about our chances, particularly
with Hunter Brown going out there. You know, he's been
an ace for us all year for the most part,
you know, once he turned the corner. Uh so, I
feel really good about where we are today.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Let me let me leave you with this.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You're back to Hunter Brown and you talk about how
phenomenal he's been since the early season started, just from
doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
He looks like an ace.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
How with with with single with elimination, you know, pending
hopefully this goes on for more weeks. What what's the
patient's level or the leash with a starting pitcher like this,
I mean, because that is another slippery slope, you know,
if he's kicking around walks to how long is the
leash with a guy like Hunter Brown today?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, I think most of the time managers have a
shorter least during the postseason, you know, because they have
a lot of pitchers you know, well rested and ready
to go. And so you know, ultimately I would think,
you know, Brown's gonna throw. Well, I don't. I'm not
really worried about it, you know, but for for example,
if something happens early, and I think Joe feels like,
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if he's got to go get him, he'll go get him.
But we're not anticipating that, you know, We're anticipating Brown
to go out and you know, have a good start
and uh, you know, give us six or seven innings
and then we can go to the bullpen, you know,
with the lead, and and and and and and force
a game three.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Did you have any problem with Hater pitching when he
did yesterday?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
No? I mean, you know, it's Joe a spotter's call.
I think, you know, part of the thought process, you know,
as I thought thought through it is, Look, he knows
what kind of offense that we have. He knows that
we're a comeback team. He knows that it's a three
run lead. And you know what, when you're in the three,
if you if you keep that three run league, you're
it's a matter of getting two guys on base in
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a home run. And I think what he was basically
trying to do is keep the lead at three. Don't
let this thing get away from us. Yeah, don't let
it get the four runs because now he got to
load the bases and things like that, and so it's
a lot a lot more pressure on their pitcher. If
you know, it's a three run league. We got two
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guys on base, and so you know, keeping that lead
at three, you know, and I think all these guys
are going to be available for the next two days
as well. We're gonna have a day off, you know,
on Friday, if we can get this thing done. So
you know, I understand, you know why he did it,
you know, but you know, ultimately you don't do that
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in the course of one hundred and sixty two game season,
but in the postseason and you want to keep them.
You want to keep the lead at three, You keep
the lead at three, you give your guys a chance
and you take it from there.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And I think we all feel good, and I know
you do too, Dana. About if you get the game three,
which what you will the Kokuchi, They'd be hard pressed
to find a number three in the playoffs. It's pitched
as well as him the second half of the season.
So I would imagine confidence grows big time if you
get him at home in Game three, with.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Him on the mound.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Absolutely this game on. We get this game today. We
feel really good about the way Kakuchi has thrown for
us since we've picked them up and acquired him from Toronto.
And you know, you give Kakuchi that ball in Game three.
The way he's been throwing, we feel really good about
our chances.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Damn right, Dana, good luck, hope the ballparks rocking today.
Relax and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
You don't have to pick up a bat. They'll take
care of their business. All good, and we look forward
to more baseball talk as the playoffs continue for the
Astros next Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
My man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Absolutely bring the energy, Astro fans. Let's go there.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You go, Dana Brown, Astros GM, we'll come back and discuss.
We wrap it up elimination game today, stay alive, and
then go eliminate them tomorrow with the best number three
in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
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