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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
There to usc true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobo, this is the Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
We Lima might just go on the sleep Yeah. He also,
what do you I thought you were saying in for
Eva again?

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Right?

Speaker 6 (00:32):
No, I mean there, you know, sometimes when the alarm
goes off, it is a little bit of you know, hey, thanks,
thanks Lolina.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
I appreciate it. His workload. Has he overworked? I mean
he's a workload. I don't think so. We always say,
I mean, we could defend him as we should. It's
my guy that it's you know, it's a It seems
like it's a he's got a bachelor party or a
marriage every week. I mean, how many how many of
his homeboys are getting married?

Speaker 6 (00:57):
This guy, This guy is almost like you know on
uh it was in a sorority, a in sec school
right out of school where it's all the bachelorette parties.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Where their best friends get married at the same time. Yeah, easily, easily.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
I mean it is like almost every single weekend bachelorette
party in Charleston. Oh, We're going to Nashvillevanna Savannah Scottsdale, right, Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I would.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
I would probably say that like Scottsdale, Vegas, Miami is
more of the bachelor party.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
That's a good point. Yeah yeah, I was gonna say Charleston,
Savannah's got, that's got. Nashville, Nashville, Nashville has become the
females Scottsdale, dude, I mean that that is a great point.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
I mean because like you cruise down Broadway, you see
those little hay rides. They all have the pink cowgirl
hats on everything like that. You know, one of them's
got the white sash on.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Like it's one of those where you see a bachelorette
party in Nashville and you're kind of like, oh, bachelorette
party in Nashville.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
That's weird. That never happens. I'm yeah, good, Yeah, exactly.
I'm just concerned about I don't I'm not. We haven't
bred Kawhi Leonard here. I mean, you know, with like
Kawhi Leonard, when you step you step up winning championships
all of a sudden need load management. He's he is
he a Kawhi Leonard. Lima might have a little bit

(02:18):
more Joel Embiid, Joel Embiid, Joel Embiid. Yeah, so so
he's a young guy. So what you're saying is what
I'm doing around here, mentoring guys to be embid. And
that's it. It could be worse. I guess m vps
and chips.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
He he one time had Al Horford with them, so
you know you're kind of the Al Horford, right.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, so so you don't.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Think it's load management now now, I mean, as we
saw if you follow the Lima on social media, he's
he's out there wearing the buzz Lightyear costume last night,
so you know he's he's having fun. And you know
about the Dale, you know about it is all too well.
And you know the thing is, I thought about this

(03:02):
this morning as well, while I was brushing my teeth,
if you know, noticing that he was in Scottsdale, and
I remember he told us that's where he was going.
It's funny how like Scottsdale and Tempe is and you
grew up in southern California. That is now what people
have in their mind of Southern California, like that area
of the country, like you go there, like you feel
like you're in southern California. But I mean it's it's

(03:25):
also too as well, the the flip side of it
kind of feel like it's the nation's best secret. Scottsdale, Scottsdale,
Tempe's like that.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
That whole area. If it's still a secret the name
been listening to me talk because there ain't nothing that
place is. It's at this time of year, the weather,
and then you go to between like December and May,
I mean with spring training and the Phoenix, the waste
management Phoenix open than just golf, everything you want to do.

(03:56):
The weather, it's phenomenal. And you get up to Sedona,
I mean they're just yeah, you can give me Scott
Stale any time you want from here on. I mean
the three or four months over the summer. You know
there can be a grind, right, but it's still I mean,
that play still as full as could be in the
summertime because people they get it. You know, if they're
going on a bachelor party, bachelor party, they get that

(04:17):
house at Airbnb a little cheaper, right, So yeah, Scott Stills,
if you haven't gone, you got to go. And it's
worth it is for sure awesome and some slack wells
if he's you know, he's uh, he's not a load
management guy. Now, so I'm gonna I'm we're gonna say,
you know, maybe a little slight twinge in the hammy,
there's there there's no tap in the top of the helmets. Yeah, yeah,

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he's no Anthony richards there's no Hey, I went on
to scramble here. Hey guys, I'm tired. I got to
sit this one out. That's not so. Richardson's AR five
as I would call.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Him AAR fifteen fifty because he were because he used
to wear number fifteen. He wore He wore fifteen when
he was at four, which is funny enough in its
own right, because don't you think that after a certain
guy that threw the ball up handed, not well, but
still throw the ball left handed and did all he
did for that program, that number fifteen should should probably
be retired there in Gainesville.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Overdue guy said, t bows belongs in the rafters, man.
I mean, the guy.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Became an Internet meme all himself, an Internet sensation, all himself.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
T Bow's jersey. The truth is, if you win a
Heisman trophy, yeah, that jersey doesn't get used again unless
you win it as a junior, want to wear it?
You're I mean you're wearing it the next year, right,
or a sophomore so or a freshman for that matter.
But yeah, there's no doubt about it. So ar fifteen,
but he wears five now, right, so you can choose here.
So what number was a litlema? I wonder and at

(05:41):
the soul ross state? Because it was what is called him?
Since you're saying he didn't tap out, so we don't
need to call it. What do we call him? Bl
like ten whatever? Jersey number b L twenty four? Sure? Whatever?
Is number one twenty five? All right? Then that's what
we're going with there. The dolls were doing little treatment
on the hammy, get right back out of that's it
smissing a day, that's I'm saying, Yeah, this is day

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you never I mean, got to have him for the
what do we like stretch run? That's it. Joe's spotty
gave him the day. Yes, that's that's that's what he did.
It been hot, gave the day off. Said you just
aging a little bit. Yeah, the last trip he was
up late with the VID. Yeah, you gotta got to
stop the VID that going. Yeah there you go good. Well,
you know, it's good to have you in. I mean

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you've been You're you're Rivera. I try. I mean you
got that cutter. They they just people saw it off.
You break. You're a bat breaker.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
If Ryan Clusco is in that left handed batter's box,
then I'm breaking your back.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
You are.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's what you saw his ass off. That's that's what's
funny too.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
I saw that highlight the other day, and I remember
that from that World Series because I think it was
the final out where he broke three of his bats
in one at bat.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
It was that that he he himself should own some
stock and in the bat you know, whatever the company
was making the bats that he was sawing off with,
what who is it that Louisville slugger problem or somebody
at that point in time, And yeah, he should have
some stock in that because they just keep building and
getting paid for him, and he saw plenty of them off.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
I was gonna say, as long as they keep supplying them,
we'll keep taking them. But anyway, last night, it was
a busy nights on the Houston sports scene because we
had both Thursday night football the Texans, which we'll get
into doesn't go well there twenty one to thirteen, but
it does go well in Dallas. For the Rockets, it
was a two screen night last night. Of course I

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was doing both Rockets launch Pad and rap Yep. Yeah,
so for the Rockets last night, and watching that game
too as well, you're watching the Texans.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
And in addition too as.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
Well, if you're in a neighborhood, you got the kids
coming by, and you got Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving Thanksgiving for
coming up. I got food on the mine, yes, but
you got Halloween last night. So so that was fun.
First time I've ever, you know, as a homeowner, had
a chance to be able to do the Hey, happy Halloween.
What are you your Corilla Deville? Oh that's cute. Here

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you go, here's some candy. A lot of kids, A
lot of kids.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
So I live in a neighbor In my neighborhood, there
wasn't a lot of kids.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
It was.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Halloween was kind of a bummer, really, streets were fairly empty.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Well, Halloween itself was fun and it was awesome, and
we didn't have any of that love.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Even seeing the kids I saw, it just wasn't It
wasn't shoulder to shoulder in the streets like it used
to when I was growing and I know we don't
do that anymore anyway, but it was it was a bummer.
I miss Halloween with the kids celebrating as much as
they do. There's too we've we've gotten to the point
where people are too they trip out over everything.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Now, well, there is that, but it's also too you know,
peanut allergies, all the all those different types of things.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Cool night, right, well, I mean, you know it, Halloween
usually falls on a school night. Yeah, but I mean
still had a little bit of that. I also too,
was staying up a little bit because I was on
guard for the neighborhood hooligans of Hey, there's some pumpkins,
let's go smash them, right, because hepe your house a
little bit. Yeah, I mean because it's also too you know.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I saw Greg Towey, guy that we know around here
a lot, and of course is with the Colin Cowherd show.
He posted that somebody gave his son a potato, which
I don't really understand that.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
No, back in the days of popcorn balls, apples, yeah,
if you don't get to wrap your own candy.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
I think I heard one time that what was it somebody, uh,
with their Halloween candy gave out multiplication tables, which I
appreciate the effort, but let's be honest, you're an idiot.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, no, you know what it is.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
It's it's when you're a kid and for Christmas, you
know your aunt. There's always that one ant that thinks
they know, you know, hey, oh you know, little Johnny
or Timmy's going to really enjoy this, and they give
them some books or they give them some clothes, the
same people give fruitcakes Christmas.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah. Absolutely, nobody touches it. Don't do that. Don't hand
out toothbrush now now, or you're preventing obesity by giving them,
you know, an apple. Stop it, okay, just stop it.
It's Halloween. I'll go ahead and out them.

Speaker 8 (09:56):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
You know a guy that kind of fits into that category.
You probably know him as David Pollock, And I remembered
once just like this, We're on air and we're talking
about road trip snacks all of those different types of things,
and he's like, yeah, I give my kids protein bars.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
I go, David hold on. I was like, how old
are your kids? And he told me their age is
like eleven and nine. I'm one night. I'm like, David,
give them a Snickers, Peter Butter, give them a reess. Yeah,
come on, man, like they're not gonna, you know, get
you know, chronic obesity from having one night. As as
Joe Rogan has said before, and I've I've quote I've

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quoted Joe Rogan quite a bit, is that.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
A little bit of indulgence is fine. Yes, it's fine.
It's the way of life. It's the way we should live.
And you know, kid has never had I indulge a lot,
that's my problem.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
And you know what, that's okay. Yeah you're happy or happy,
but indulging on Halloween. Yeah, the kid can eat a
piece of candy or two or twelve. And I got
into our candy too last night as well.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Why wouldn't you because we were pretty hot and heavy,
because like I said, I did launch pad and rap
and I did launch pad from here. So made a
stop through a fast food spot on the way home,
just because something quick. And you know, we hadn't eat
and dinner and they serve They didn't invent the chicken,
but they invented the chicken sandwich.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
I think you know where I'm going with this.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
So picked that up, went home, and on the way home,
I was like, Hey, how's the candy situation running low?
So I stopped at the local Washington Nationals and picked
up a couple of bags, and the guy right there
as soon as I walked in goes candy. I was like, yeah,
he goes right over there.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yep, there you go.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
So you had a lot of people who were coming
in and doing that's a good thing. I mean, the
kids were out, that's it, that's it. We were having
fun last night. So I understand I missed the rush.
I got the later stages of it. And when I
got the later stages of it, the parents who were,
you know, walking up to the door with their kids
could see that I had the Texans game on. So
of course the dads would kind of poke their head in,

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hey what's the score. Speaking of which that this is
not a super bowltaque caliber team right now. No, They've
got pieces that are sure make them. I mean, defense
can stand up and they keep playing good football. You
knew Rogers was going to play well, but we got
to hammer this because the offensive line continues to prove
that in pass protection they're fairly inept, which is sad,

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very very and they can run the football.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
And for the first time in two years now, yeah,
I know he statistically he's had games, but for the
first time in two years, the look on his face
and the way the game, the way he played. CJ.
Stroud looked pedestrian last night incredibly. I mean, gets sacked
eight times in the game. He does not miss throws
that he missed last night. That where he'll makes those

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most of the time. And there Big plays a lot
of we're off schedule last night.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
And well, and we can talk about that on the
other side as well, because I mean, it was a
little bit of deja vous for the Texans, but not
in a good way last night.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
And I'll explain that on the other side as well.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Got a huge college football weekend, even though some of
the local teams are off.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
We'll get into that as the show goes along. And
it's also do we consider this day two of Bregman Watch.
I mean, at least if nothing else, an offer has
been made. Who knows if an offer has been made,
We'll be keeping an eye on that as well. As
the Major League baseball off season is underway. Tons to
get into He's Sean Salisbury Tripley and Manuel Elmore. You

(13:13):
know you can always count on him. He's the constant
of the show. I'm Dan Matthews and for Brian Lima
Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
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Speaker 4 (13:49):
I have to be honest, add as Triple Lee who
this was?

Speaker 6 (13:53):
And he went the deep cuts for the first fight
song Friday, the South Florida bolls.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Would you know most fight songs? Most of them?

Speaker 6 (14:02):
I would yes, the of like the top twenty five
time program. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like of course, you know,
everybody knows Michigan. Everybody knows Notre Dame. Of course here
everybody knows Texas fight. So yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, god, yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Let's see you probably at the Florida's LSU. Oh yeah,
hey fighting Tigers Fight. I wouldn't know this is South Florida. Yeah,
I wouldn't have known that. Yeah, I wouldn't have either.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
But of course, you know, the part of the country
that I was in before coming back here, huge, huge
part of the weekend.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Oh yes it is. Yeah, you got Jacksonville this weekend, Georgia, Florida,
this weekend, world's biggest cocktail party, right yeah, world's largest
out to the largest, biggest.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
But then again, you know you can't call it that
because we don't want kids drinking. I mean, that's basically
the rationale they use. And then they had different incarnations.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
It isn't that just understood that drinkings for unless unless
you're you're burying your head in the sand, which you're
an idiot. I mean looking for a lot of people
in college administration would fall into that category. Sean, Oh
my goodness. Yeah yeah, because I say it over here,
that means that you were telling your eight year old
to go grab a beer.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
So I'll give you a good quick one on this,
and it is quick. As my brother played in the
College World Series years ago, and my mom collects shot glasses.
So we went to one of the souvenirs stands there
in Omaha, and she wanted to know if they had
shot classes. You would have thought she shot the president
because they were like, no promotes drinking. She's like, it's

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a shot glass itself. It's just a small little glass.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's all.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Right, right right there you go and yeah, so that
was that was back in the mid nineties. To shout
out that Rice Als team because that's my brother was
up part of that team with Lance Berkman and Matt Anderson,
Bubba Crosby, he was roommates with Matt Anderson, played in
high school with Bubba there at bel Air, So shout
out Bellair Cardinals too. At the same time, like we've

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been talking about, we're gonna get in some Texans here.
By the way, Dan Matthews, if not too familiar with
my voice in for Brian Alima, he's still Sean Salisbury
Triple Emmanuel Elmore Sean Salisbury show. Texans lose last night
twenty one to thirteen. Rockets one eight one oh two
winners on the road, first time over five hundred this

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season for Ema Doka's club.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
So maybe we'll get into little bit of Rockets a
little bit later on.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Like I said, a huge college football weekend fight song Friday.
But like I said, the Major League Baseball off season
is underway. And by the way, Sean, the ratings are
out for the twenty twenty four World Series and the
you know Dodgers of course winning it and also averaged

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eighteen point six million viewers on Fox Fox Deportes in streaming,
according it to Nielsen, and it is its best performance since.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
The Astros and the Dodgers in the World Series in
twenty seventeen. Really, yes, eighteen million of a game. It
was the average. That was the average, Yes, over the
five games. Yeah, and if the Yankees would have shown
up for most of them, it probably been different.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Well, you know, Aaron Judge catch a routine fly ball
out in center field and also Garrett Cole cover first
base on routine pictures fielding practice.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Won won't hurt Rizzo to sprint to first base either.
If he does. This guy's not going to make it say.
It was a little bit of everything.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
It was.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
That's why the best part of it too, was them.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
It was almost like that Spider Man meme of you
know the Spider Man's all pointing at each other? Is
that really was what that play was is you had
Rizzo pointing to him like dude, why aren't you at first?
And then you had Garrett Cole like, no, hey, hey man,
get the first right, Yes, exactly right. You'll I confess
it's your fault. I confess he did it. There you
go that's good. There was a lot of the index finger,

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not enough of the thumb, and right there a doubt
about it. So didn't work out for the Yankees. But still,
I mean, you know people talk about, oh, no, you know,
oh the Astros again, nobody wants to watch the Astros. Well, no,
it proved it because twenty seventeen they were in it,
they won it. And I think probably at the time
too as well, there was a lot of the Astros

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where the nation's darling at the time because Hurricane Harvey
had come through. It was their first time young exciting
Club two with some young budding superstars on it against
the Dodgers, who for the longest time had not been
to the World Series. So it was new for everyone
and you had the nation kind of captivated.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
And then they became the villain. Yeah, how that happened?
I mean, think about it, does tho Golden State? Oh, charm, charm,
we love you, we love you. Then they went a
couple and all of a sudden, right, everybody can't stand them.
They're the villain. So the heat, yeah, no doubt. The
Patriots happens all the time. Yeah, the Patriots are our
case in points. It happens all the time. Now Kansas City.
While that's Andy Reid's easy to like the Kansas City

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Chiefs fatigue because they're always so good. Speaking of getting
to the Texans, to you, Dan, I I'm so disappointed
we're getting to the point. And yes, that was a
touchdown catch by the Jets. It was you, I mean
the old John Madden one n eqal two feet. My
only thing going into that was if you watch on
the sideline, a guy taps his left foot down and

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then gets his right heel in, but the right toe
lands out of bounds, and it's the same motion. They
would call that an incomplete pass in the NFL in
the end zone. He got foot down and then he
came down and got his shin down before the knee
went down. But it was all in one fell swoop.
So the shin to knee is obviously different than heel

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to toe in one because even if a guy catches, now,
if you catch a ball toe down, heel down, and
the part the other part of your foot not name
the heel, does not hit the white and you go
hop from heel to heel or it comes off the
ground and there's a separation and then you land out
of bounce, they'll call that a catch. But since it's
one motion, that's an incomplete pass. Yet in the end zone,

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if you go shin to knee in one fell swoop,
they called it a touchdown. So that was the only
thing for me because he was he definitely controlled it,
caught it and got the ship. He did get the
shin down before the knee went out of bounds. But
if it's one motion like you would have with it
was a foot, they would have was foot heeled a toe,

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they would have called that an incomplete pass.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Not to get to you know, deep into the weeds here.
But Condulton Schultz learned how to get both feet and bounds.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
It would be nice that like, seriously, man, you wanted
to catch sideline right.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
It happened in the playoffs when he was with the Cowboys,
and it happened again last night.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Like awareness and and it was that they needed that completion.
That completion. It's just like, dude, like that's good body
control and awareness. And then you saw the difference and
with the the Garrett Wilson play was just freakish. So
and you know, once again the stupidity of a player
and the IQ, and I don't care if I know
people feel sorry for him?

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Quit.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
What's the rush to drop the ball at the goal line?
Why not get to eight yards deep? Matter of fact,
you should. I mean, I don't understand why. It's like
running through the line and the forty They always say, hey,
don't stop running through the line. You know, kids will
run thirty eight yards instead of forty yards. And wonder
why the forty times down run your forty like it's
a forty five yard sprint. Yeah, stop there, it's the

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same thing. What it's called the you know what it is.
It's the look at me. I'm going to show you
I made a great kid makes a great play and
then lays the ball on the ground before he gets
the end zone. And he blatantly did and they still
were able to overcome that and pressure. I'm so disappointed
in the way they pass protect It's pitiful. It's not
good at all. And of course Kenny and Green goes
down with the shoulder injury. Last night, Kendrick Green came

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in played he played better than Keny. I don't like
see anybody get hurt. He played better than he did it.
I mean, they're so efficient in the run game, pushing
the pile. It's been a long time since I've seen
guys that. I mean, they get run by like it's
a high schooler being blocked by a fourth grader's And

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i try to be glass half full and fair and
I'm being more than fair because I've not covered for them,
but said, I know, you got to get all the
guys in the union, said, I get it, still learning it. Second,
I mean, coaching changes over the last couple years, but
we can't make that excuse. The bottom lines were far
enough in and it's you vers him. If you're just
physically not good enough to block somebody, then you just can't.
Then we got to sit you on the bench. Sure,

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if you just can't block a guy. And last night
they literally at times, especially in the interior, could not
block a guy. No, it was not going well.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
I mean, Kenyon Green was having a tough enough time
with Quinn Williams and uh, you know, you get another
full start penalty out of Laramie Tunsil. I mean, I'm
on my way home listening to Iron Eagle and the
National Call, and I mean that was immediately as soon
as they said number seventy eight, they said, Oh, that
has been a problem this season for Tunsil.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
It was him and Mike Mayock, and I mean, and
that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
I mean, it's getting to the point too with you know,
the pre snat penalties with him that it's starting to
become a national reputation.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well you just you if he doesn't get one, you're
shocked as hell right now. You just expected, oh, a
couple penes, Yeah, there you go, no problem, and one
of them will be pre snap yeah, in the movement.
But it's a really hard watch, you know, mixing plays
his ass off Stroud had, Like I said, as I
tease it, for me, it was the first time in
two years I've seen sittebores game hasn't been as good

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as you want it. But I've talked us since his
opening game as a rookie to last night. It was
as confused but also as inaccurate on throws that he'd
make in his sleep. He looked for the first time
to me like a pedestrian football player last night, and
the offensive line had something to do now. He made
some great plays on the run. A matter of fact,
they made more great plays off schedule with him than

(23:36):
they did on schedule last night, and Tank Dell showed
up and did a nice job. I the accuracy last night,
they just and I don't know if that has to
do with the accumulation of all these hits, that the
ball's coming out inaccurate last night. Looked like a guy
and that won't last long because he's a great player.
Last night, it's the first time I said that looked

(23:57):
like a rookie plan. He looked like what Josh Allen
looked like against them when they played against them. That
was the day Anthony Richardson, Yeah, making a few big
plays with snapping and although I'll never compare them there
because he could complete forty percent, his sleep could switch,
I mean, could Stroud. But it was his his performance
last night. He was not good. Tank Dell was.

Speaker 8 (24:19):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
We we obviously know that Joe Mixon keeps doing it
on a regular base, but I cannot believe we're sitting
here at nine games end of the season and they're
six and three, but they do not live. That's not
a super Bowl team. They're They're a cut below with that,
and their offensive line is going to create more and
more problems those hits, I'm telling you, and it it is,
and it's not confusing. They're not getting beat by confusion.

(24:42):
If it is, it's by three or four guys. You
gotta know who to block man, and they're getting physically dominated.
In past protection, we had heard that.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Twists and stunts were an issue for him, and we'll
get into this on the other side.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Billy, I know you've been waiting. I'll get to you
on the other side as well, So stick and stay
John as well. If you want to join Billy and
John right there, you can do so seven one three
tw two five seven ninety. Once again at Sebone three
two one two five seven ninety. A lot of what
Sewn just brought up right there too is too good
to pass up. So we're gonna have to get into
that on the other side as we continue to talk

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We're fou The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

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SMARTSAK seventy ninety a. Shawn Salisbury's show is Sean Salisbury.
I'm Dan Matthews in for Brian Alima, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore, tripley.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Who's this one? What do we got here? Florida Atlantic?
All right? The Fighting Tom Herman's formerly the Fighting Lane Kiffins.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
So there you go.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
They had Big Justice and AJ run out with the
team once too as well. People are wondering they're the
costco guys.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
You know that we bring the boom. That's what we do.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
We bring the boom, yep, all the way to you.
I think that's how the song goes. But it doesn't matter.
There's people wondering if they've overstayed their welcome because I
guess there was footage from when they were on the
Jimmy Fallon Show that Jimmy kind of looked less than
disinterested that they could be there. And people are wondering
if they're a little stick with, you know, the sister

(28:35):
and the mom, if it's starting to kind of run
out that played out, huh.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Now they're just you know, some meathead that likes double
chocolate chunk cookies and a kid that likes chicken bakes.
Oh hate I don't hate it, no at all, but
I mean, but it is though too. I mean because
I think the Rizzler is going to run into this
as well. You can only touch your chin so many
times and have people say, oh, that's funny. I'll watch
with this kid by the way too, Billy, Like, I

(29:01):
promise me, I'm gonna get to you here right right
after this. Uh, Baby Gronk and the Rizzler are feuding.
I saw that last night. So people can't stand people
can't stand Baby Gronk's dad. I don't think they necessarily
hold it against the kid. I think the kid doesn't
know any better. He's just doing what his dad tells
him to do. And he realizes that.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
You know, people are you know, somewhat interested in him
because more than anything, and this is what the internet does.
People are sharing when he gets absolutely punked on the
field at camps and seven on seven's and things like that,
that's what people are looking forward to with him. But
I'm kind of like, look, he's an eleven twelve year
old kid. He doesn't know any better. It's his dad

(29:40):
that's cloud chasing.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, and I don't even know the story the story
is behind this thing. Yeah, I don't know. I can
give you a crash course as best as possible.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
See.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
And that's the funny thing too as well. Where would
I see? Where would I know that? I mean just
social media media? Yeah yeah, I mean I guess you
got to follow that, right.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
And I don't even know the I'll see something on
Instagram or on Twitter, and then I'll bring it up
to my fiance and she's like, yeah, that was on
TikTok like a month ago. I'm like, well, look, I'm
not supposed to be in the TikTok world.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Just late to the party. I'm out. I'm it sounds good.
I love Yeah, I got you, brother. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
Maybe maybe I just need to find some sort of
way to go Internet viral and be able to cash
in on the monetary uh you know, bonuses from that,
and then you know I would continue doing.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
This for sure. You're gonna get an only fans that.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Nobody only nobody wants to see that nobody wants to
get a tripley.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Could you imagine old Danny Boy starts rolling only fans
and make it like seven figs.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
Maybe maybe if people are interested in in in mediocre
sports takes, then maybe I could be there for you
on that.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
But aside from that, I don't have much to offer that. Hey, man,
people make money just crazy ways. Man, date you and
Big Buddy. It's the weirdest thing here. You might be
onto something, Danny, and you told me to. I got
your reper I appreciate it. I know you always got
my back, always, brother, always, I won't let you down.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Why do you think I'm your agent? That's You've got
my back you for sure. And Limo when he's here,
Billy Ay, we got your back. Man, appreciate your patience.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Man, what's up?

Speaker 11 (31:19):
Hey, good morning guys, and hey, it's no problem. I
called early for a reason. I wanted to get on
this morning. Uh hey Tribbley. Uh you know I got
my MIAMI from Sam, but I got my NBA from
uh Grand Canyon. See if you can find Grand Canyons
fight songkay. Uh it was online for a friend of mine. Anyway,
something I saw last night that I don't want to

(31:43):
blow anybody up this morning. I did that last night
I'm not gonna blow up the line. Yes, Kenyon Green
is a turnstile. But what I saw last night out
of the Jets was when the pass rush was just
getting to Roger so much that he just couldn't function.
And later in the game they went to quick, short passes.

(32:03):
They got their running backs and involved in the passing game.
Quick outs turn your tight ends engaging in a block
and then he disengages and he catches a pass in
the flat and he goes for four or five yards.
I'm not seeing that at a slow wick.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
And I know that slow.

Speaker 11 (32:18):
It's got to grow into this job like anybody does.
He's been touted as the next great head coach, blah
blah blah blah blah. But he's just not doing anything
to help slow the pass rush down. And give our
excuse me, let me correct that he's not doing enough
to slow the pass rush down to help Stroud out.

(32:40):
And my concern is, and I've seen this. I've been
watching football for a very long time. I go back
to seventy four and I've been watching football for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
You've got to get some short passes.

Speaker 11 (32:52):
You've got to get your running backs involved in the
passing games of times, you've got to hit the screens
to slow the pass rush down. Will you hit those?
You get the four, five, six yards at little chunks?
Then the defense is wait a second, We've got to
get some coverage out there. We can't let him continue
to do this and they've got to slow the pass
rush down and they're just not doing that.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
And is that, guys, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Speaker 11 (33:14):
If I'm crazy, I'm crazy. But is that just just
not as experienced as an OC as he needs to
be or is that something totally different? And I just
don't know what I'm talking about, and I'll hang up.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (33:25):
I appreciate you guys a lot.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Thank I appreciate it, Billy, thank you, Billy. Appreciate you.
A couple of things. One is what they what I
did like and I've been begging for on this show,
was to change his launch point. And I said it
yesterday during the show and it said the day before
you got it. I've said it for weeks. You got
to change the launch point of the quarterback. It can't
just be three step, five step, take a hitch, sit

(33:47):
in the pocket, and you got a bootleg him, which
they did. You got to sprint him, which they did.
You've got to stretch, play action, bootleg, which they did,
go three step, go five step. You've got to change
a lot lunch point so the defensive line does not
know where you're going to be all the time, and
they did that. But he did a better job of
that last night. Didn't seem to help much, but he did.

(34:08):
And you heard Herbstreet Todd, but he changed in his
launch point and they started to do that early. I
saw that. But Billy, I'm with you when you especially
when you know going into a game right now, there
is no worse pass protection in football than what they're
doing pressures hit. So what that tells you is you

(34:29):
better go in knowing you know what the conflict is
in every single friggin game, the Texans playing their inability
to protect the passer, whether it's a chipper on the
way out, you saw him they lined up with two
tight ends a bunch of loss. I mean they did
on the wing set and line up with two tights
at times trying to help out and saw him early
chip out and get a thump on a guy. But

(34:49):
it's still it's the pressures in all these sacks, and
you know what, it's not just I mean, we continue
to say it's the interior left guard, but there's other people.
He didn't give up eight sacks, I mean it, you know,
or seven sacks, but the pressures are coming. He got manhandled.
So it looks like he got thrown around like a
rag doll. He just did. It wasn't all him. Yeah, no,
of course, and it never is with an offensive line,

(35:09):
but there is a part of an element. Quarterbacks got
a no protection, so you know where the free runners are.
That's one. Two is Bobby slow to get them in
position to change the launch point what he did, But
Billy's right. The best way to offset it is you
have to be willing to play sideways. And I don't
want to conservative may not be, but ball out on

(35:31):
time mentality football, you just have to. And whether that
is getting a guy to the flat, running back of
the flat, or the screen game, which Andy Reid's always
been so good. People who understand the screen game, whether
it's the quick screen game outside like you see in college,
or slow screen game inside with a back who hits
and you let guys come that quick screen game. People
are throwing a lot at all levels from high school

(35:52):
right onto the NFL. But you have to offset it
and then you can come back and go three steps
and five steps and hitch and push the ball down
the field like what people been complained about. They want
more vertical push and without Nico cons amn't got some
of it last night, but more of that came in
truth off schedule for Stroud pushing it down the field.
So the best way to off set it if you
can't protect it with protections and manipulating protections, is you

(36:15):
must work the slant game, the quick game, the hitch game.
And you saw it last night. Rogers had coverage off boom,
throw the hitch, give me eight yards. Second two. You
saw him on the bootleg boom tight the tight end
does he hits, gets the flat catch eleven yard game.
So those are things and that's on Bobby Slow to help.
If you've got to throw four slants in a row,
throw force slants in a row. Well, you talked about

(36:36):
the screen game too. I mean with receivers we call
it the old River route. Yeah, I mean, you know,
bust out a couple of those, and you were talking
about the vertical CJ tried, He tried, probably more than
I've seen him all season long. And they did. They
almost kind of saying the hell with it, there we go.
They attacked vertically, they took some deep shots, a couple
of big plays off schedule. But the truth is, and

(36:57):
that's why I said it was pedestrian. He misthrows the
over route to mechi that he missed on the throw.
I know he took hits, and the hits or accumulate
that that can become a problem. But for the first time,
he looked at times confused and actually looked like a
pedestrian quarterback, which we know he's not. I don't want
to say he's entitled to, but you know those are
going to happen. What happens, and it doesn't get any better,

(37:18):
because if you don't score twenty eight to thirty against
the team you're about to play, you ain't winning. Even
without Aiden Hutchinson, you better believe Dan Campbell and that
crew up and they can score from the they can
score from their their car, the parking lot. And again,
like I said, even without Aiden Hutchinson, they can still
get after you. They're playing. They're playing every phase of
the game about as well as you can play they're

(37:39):
the best team in the NFC and damn near maybe
the best team in the NFL if you're not careful.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
At least through the first what eight games that they've
played so far, at this point, they've pretty much shown that.
So we'll get into much more of the Texans on
the other side, John and Roger, I see you guys
right there.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
You want to join them?

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Do so?

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Also,
as we'll let you hear a little bit from Dmiico
Ryans after last night's disappointing performance there in the Meadowlands,
Sexans lose twenty one to thirteen. Will continue the conversation
on the other side. Dan Matthews in for Brian lima
Sean Salisbury show right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Some people go up to qs maw which a lot
of people in this market would definitely know this fight song.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Some people might not.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
If you don't know, if you're in that category, it's
the Syracuse Orange, Auto, the Orange, the mascot there.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Have you ever seen a hoop game there? I've never
seen a game at the Carrier Dome, never even been
to Syracuse I have it was awesome, looks like an
awesome player. One of those venues you want to go visit.

Speaker 12 (39:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
I broadcast a football game there, but I've never seen
a hoop game in four years. The funny thing is
I never knew this. You know, West Durham guy I
got to know in my previous market, of course, does
legend ACC games.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
And his dad absolutely was his years at U n C.
But he brought to my attention it's named after an
air conditioning company, the carrier Nome. No ac in it though,
which is weird. One of my one of my first reports.
That's so funny you say that. My very first game
in my broadcast career. M h I had retired from football.

(39:37):
ESPN had called said, you want to do college football
for us?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Sure? Yeah, So flew to the meetings. They gave me
a couple of games with meetings in Bristol. You know,
everybody gets their teams and assignment there. And I remember
Mike Adamley old school Mike Adams, Oh yeah, in his
in Mike Trico had come to me. I said, I've
never been a sideline reporter. What any you know? Hints
and both of them gave me their hints and or

(40:00):
some you know, advice, should I say so?

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
First game draw Syracuse, North Carolina State, Donovan McNabb, Marvin
here that group about North Carolina State at the Carrier Dome.
They won like thirty five thirty four, some balls fumbled
at the goal line. North Carolina mean big upset on
the road it was and the Carry Dome was rocking, right,
I mean offense up and down. It was classic. But
during that about report number three, you know, when the
live camera goes on, the light comes on, it's a

(40:25):
little different than broadcast journalism school at US. Yeah, but
even though I'd been playing football those years, now it's
your turn, right, yeah, and uh so it comes on
in one and I'm doing I'm it's hot as as
two rats banging in a wolfsock in August, Dude, it
was You think how hot that is? Two rats banging?
And it was that hot because early in the season,

(40:47):
and it was and so I f I went doing it.
When you're doing your report, you realize that the Carrier, no,
it's a heating HbA HVAC. Yeah, and they there is
no heat or air conditioning in the building, like you
just said so one of my ors, I said, in
the irony of it, and whether we're doing it and
they're talking about it, because they were talking about the
temperature on the field up there, even though it's covered,
it was hot for whatever reason, and there but broadcast

(41:10):
teams talking about let's go down to Sean. Yeah, And
I said, well, let me validate that, guys, for those
who don't know. And my shirt's got a little sweat
on it. I said, here, this is the HVAC. Here
they are the name. The name on this building is
the Carrier Dome, and it's heating, ventilation, air conditioning, and
there's no air conditioning or heat in this building and

(41:30):
we can use some AC today. So the fact that
you said that and it is, I mean, come on
it you'd be like saying, what, I don't know, Maybe
you're you work for a Chevrolet dealership and you don't
have any Chevrolet. You don't have any trucks on your lot. Yeah,
I mean, and you just don't have them. I mean,
it's not like they're available to don't happen, and yet
you're the Carrier Dome named after it. So the irony

(41:52):
of that as well. So, but I'll never forget that.
And good advice by Mike treegle get it back up
to the broadcast booth before the next place starts.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Tell us we don't know he's a pro for a reason.
We could see him on Sunday Night football. Real quick
here before we flip it to the seven o'clock hour.
John on the northwest side, what's the way? And John,
what's up?

Speaker 7 (42:11):
Hey guys.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
But that was a brutal watch last night.

Speaker 13 (42:15):
You know, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna sound like
a broken record, but I feel that we have to
change this offensive line, coach. I you know, a good
example is like when the Texans were like their best
record twelve and four. We had a guy named John
Benton who's been in the league for like thirty three
years I think, and now he's trying to turn around
the New Orleans mess. But you know, this this line

(42:38):
was bad and getting worse. And what I'm afraid of
is one and we've talked about I've called in on
this before, where you know Stroud's gonna get hurt. And
the thing is he's getting he's like any quarterback, you know,
he's getting these happy feet and you know, it looks
like a deer in the headlights.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
I mean, and you can't blame them.

Speaker 13 (42:57):
They're not doing anything to help them out. And I
do think there needs to be a change as far
as coaching the offensive line though, And the other thing
is to follow up on your previous caller. Yeah, I
remember when New England had one of their worst offensive lines,
Brady and h and I'm sure the offensive coordinator body
they worked on where he would try to get the

(43:18):
ball out of his hands in two seconds and they'd
work on like the quick outs and things like that,
and uh in it work obviously because you know they
still they still want and we're productive, and you know
there are some changes. I'm just disappointed in the slow
UK like we've been talking about, and and I just
you know, there's got to be a shake up in
this organization because this offensive line performance is just getting

(43:42):
bad to worse. They're not getting any better, and the
teams are figuring out that hey, they can't block, and
they're they're just sending everybody after Stroud and Stroud's taking
a beating back there and it's getting to him.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
You can see it on his face, yep. And it
won't last if it will not last. It can't regardless
of what they do. And thanks for the Collegeohn. We
got to go to break all. That's great to hear
from you.

Speaker 7 (44:03):
Buddy.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
There there's got and you know I can just tell
you this from career wise, there is never one person's
fault for doing this, but it is can and it
starts with the coach. You've got to you've got to
sound protections. You've got the number one priority for an
offensive line coach number one. Obviously what the guys run, running,
run protection technique and good feet is run blocking, should

(44:28):
I say, is a lot of nasty and attitude. That's
the offensive Well, that's what they all want to do.
They want to bury you physically, and so there's some
there's technique involved, but it's also a bit of nasty
and want to that's an attitude. Run blocking is an attitude.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
That it is.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
On the other side of it is as Bill Parcels
always you say, well, they're gonna have more than we
have at the in the goal line. You got to
you got to learn how to bring your own blocker.
It's running with attitude, man, and blocking with attitude pass
protection technique. Understand it as an assignment, knowing who to
get and how to get him. You have just got
to there. You have to absolutely when you're teaching it,

(45:04):
you have to your number one job as an offense
offensive line coach. Number one is to make sure that
the quarterback do your sound protection wise, and then that
has to permeate down to the offensive line. They've got
to understand the teach. You can't leave anybody behind because
the four of them are good. One is and you'll
get your brains beat in. And we can discuss this more,
but so the technique, So it starts offensive line coach

(45:26):
and what you're willing to tolerate and not from your
players before you sit them down, and then their ability
to learn and take it from the practice field, from
the practice meeting room to the field and then execute
it on game day. And right now, if you're a
defensive coordinator and they're smart, and it doesn't matter if
they're they get it. They're going to see this and
they are going to continue to attack your weaknesses. And

(45:46):
on the press protection it's many. This team is pedestrial.
They can't go, they cannot go where they want to
go protecting the quarterback like this and he will not last.
Not that he's not tough, but you just can't and
it will look different production wise like it did last night.
They start to add up. I've said it a million times,
not just the sacks, the constant pressures. Then you lose trust.

(46:07):
Whether they say they don't or they you start to
lose trust. And you're already losing trust in left guard.
That's why you benched his ass. Yeah, and he had
to come back as the injury, so you better hopefully
he's okay health wise. They better pick it up. They
better pick it up. There's a lot of pride hurt
in that building right now, and hopefully they can pick
up the pieces here in the next week and a
half before Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 4 (47:09):
But anyway in for him this morning, our one in
the books where to go? I mean we're already here, Hey, Dan,
Sometimes you just got to let the past go. That's it,
that's it. We we the first hours of the books. Hey,
that's that's not Doc Brown right there with the DeLorean.
I can't. I can't go back in time. It's right,
but you know I don't. I don't have Huey Lewis
singing Yeah in the news, in the news, Hugh Lewis

(47:31):
the news. People sleep on the news. Oh yes they do.
You know, underrated.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
I mean Hugh Hughey obviously, I mean he's he's the namesake,
so we know about him. But the news itself, it's
like the pips. You think, like, if he ever because
Huey I think he still plays in the pedal Beach,
if he shows up, you know, and of course signing autographs.
Do you think anybody ever goes, hey, Huey, where's the news?

Speaker 7 (47:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Probably what's or what's the news today? I was gonna say, yeah,
what what's in the news. What's in the news. There's
there's tons of got any news for us, guy? Yeah,
there you go? Any good news.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
I was going to say, And if he goes back
out on tour, does he have to call it Heuey
News and the breaking news.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Maybe could be especially if they're breaking it social media.
Maybe now it would be Huey Lewis in the late
edition news. Possibly. Okay, we don't want to be the
next I don't want West Coast but which is kind
of tough with Huey because he's a West Coast guy.
We don't want to be here Loos and the now
defunct news. But which, by the way, too, I like
I like the Huey Lewis and the what what what

(48:27):
kind of news did you say? The late edition late
edition news?

Speaker 7 (48:30):
I like that?

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Yeah, there you go, I mean the breaking if they
were just coming back out and can call him Hugh
though Hugh Lewis as he gets older. Yeah, you can't
call him Huey when he's seventy. They still do though,
So Chris Berman special loves Huey Lewis. Oh he does. Yeah,
they're tight ye him and uh.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
And also to talking about circling the wagons, nobody circles
the wagons like the buffalo bill.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
He loves his buffalo Bills, the forty niners and the Raiders.
Oh yeah, he's got them all. Yep, Yeah, he's He's
a legend for a reason. H Roger on the northwest
side wants to wait in here on Sports Talk seven
ninety Roger, what's up?

Speaker 7 (49:08):
Good morning?

Speaker 15 (49:09):
Fellas a quick footnote on Huey Lewis. For the longest time,
I thought he has a real doppel ganger, the guy
from from the First die Hard who plays the concierge,
the guy.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
You're talking about, that security guy who comes out in
great Yeah, the one that white guy with like the
long feathered hair and it's Christmas and he's and he's
watching USC Notre Dame and he's got yeah, and he's
got a sport code on, like the security sports code on. Yeah,
that's a great call. That does look like Hugh Lewis.
That's spoiler did not did.

Speaker 15 (49:44):
Not did notboard. Uh so, uh my nell Is on
the Texans, I see this. It was a slow Now
it's very become a very faster deterioration of this front line.
Uh and you know WANs to say that one on
one Apple one bad Apple spoised a bunch because now
it's going on to uh to Stroud, the the main

(50:08):
focus of this offense. And now he's got the happy
feed like you were talking about earlier, and now he's
getting to that David Carr syndrome. And this is something
you need to stop before it like a cancer, man,
be where it's inoperable. Because I know you say, sometimes
you just can't throw money at a problem, but maybe
if you cannot, dit Cacia needs to get in his
workshop and really find out.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
What he can do and what he can get.

Speaker 15 (50:32):
And I know he really values those picks, but man,
at what point do you have to do something is
to save your season because they're they're headed to a
very very dangerous crossroads, especially with these next three games.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
You can find themselves sick.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
You know what's crazy too, is I don't see them
getting better right now. They've got they've I mean, with
all this attention to detail and trying to do that
they're getting, they're not getting better at pass protection. You
think it's right, I mean, it's like it's almost like
they're starting to believe what everybody's telling you. Guys aren't
fair good at it, and they aren't. It's got it's

(51:11):
gotta start. Championship teams can't. They're looking on championship teams
in football over the course of time, there's gonna be
a constant. They're gonna have some physicality and the offensive
line is going to keep their quarterback up right. Appreciate
the call, Roger. It's Roger.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
It seems like it's one of those that, uh for
for people who are in construction, you know about a
punch list, and of course you know, it's basically a
all right, hey, you know, we need to do this, this, this,
and this, And it feels like they're working a punch
list right now. Like it feels like, all right, you know,
you you were able to put together the molding, but
now you've got to be able to do this, and

(51:48):
now there's a problem here, so you gotta go back
and you got to fix that. Like I mean, it seriously,
is just one thing after another where what was initial
problem one for them at the beginning of the season,
pre snap issues, false starts, you know, the illegal shifts,
I mean, any of those things that would happen, they
were the issue for them. They seemingly cleared that up,

(52:10):
and then it's the twists and the stunts are giving
them problems and they haven't necessarily fixed that and last night.
You didn't see twists and stunts. As a matter of fact,
you heard all week coming into that game. That's not
what the Jets do. They don't.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
They just maul you up front, and boy, they mauled them.
Walk them right back into the quarterback number of times
roller skates. And what happens is, even if you're not
taking hits the quarterback, you start to feel bodies in
your vision, and so what do you do. The ball
either comes out a little quicker, you don't drive through
the throw, and the ball comes out less accurate when

(52:42):
they're a quarterback. When you're when you're decisive, good things happen.
A lot of inaccuracy comes from indecisiveness. And right now,
if you're the quarterback on the Texans, how can you
drop back in the pocket. He'll tell you that he
trusts his guys. Of course he will, and that's what
you're supposed to do as a quarterback. That that's part
of the leadership. You do't bust toss your players. But
there's got to be a lot of discussion and development

(53:03):
and talk in the building among themselves. But what ends
up happening is the trust. Fact there starts to become
think about in anything in your life. For oh man,
this has happened three and four and five times. Now
you're going to start to look at it different. The
ball will come out different, which will affect your aggressiveness,
which will make you less accurate. And last night, even
on times when he wasn't getting hit, he was as

(53:24):
pedestrian as we've seen him in the league. And that's
not who the guy is.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (53:27):
That reminds me of me? And you have a mutual friend.
Most of the audience won't know who he is.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
John Fricky told me a story years ago when I
worked with him about he's a Nebraska guy and he
was in southern California. He picked up I can't remember
who the DC was for those black shirt defenses at
Nebraska along with Tom Osborne, but he picked him up
from the airport and he said, one thing I've always
wanted to ask you guys, that first play of the

(53:52):
game against Charlie Ward and Florida State fifteen yard unnecessary roughness?

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Was that intentional?

Speaker 6 (53:57):
They both in Unison said yes, because we wanted to
set the tone that this is going to be your night.
You're not going to be throwing in a clean pocket
at all throughout the night, and even if we got
to take fifteen yards at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
To your point you just brought up right there.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
They wanted his feet to be happy, They wanted him
to not feel good back there, that he had to
think about that in addition to trying to make his reads,
trying to make his throws. And I'm not saying that
that happened last night, but you're starting to see where
teams are starting to zero in on number seven and say,
we know we can get to him, and we know
that we can really fluster.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
And the more we get around him, the more the ball.
Just as human nature is that it's going to come
out unnecessary at the wrong time, and it's not I mean,
and Stroud's gonna that's going to test his maturity already
year two into his career. Okay, if your tenure veteran,
eventually the hits take their toll. So and I'm not
even talking about the physicals that I am talking about

(54:54):
the mental and decision making private and it if you're
playing the Texans right now, you know you'll be playing
in their backfield and passing. It's just that they've proven it.
So until you they proved different, we can't look at
it any other way. Then there will not be clean
pockets much. Speaking of that way, you talked about Nebraska
and the red shirt, that that defense. I've when I

(55:16):
played and said it for years and I've said it
on television to say it now, and so it's like
deja vu that you brought that up. The old Pittsburgh
Steelers with Jack Lambert. The only reason I'm going back
in time is because people, the physicality they played with
the rules were different. The Raiders with Tatum and that
group and Ted Hendricks, they said they did a couple
on offense. The Raiders always attacked you deep early to

(55:38):
back you off and then to be able to take
the stuff and to let you know that today's you
don't get the squad on all our stuff. Today you go.
And then on the second part, a receiver over the
middle of quarterback they would without trying to hurt a guy,
right and unfortunately, but I'm talking about illegal When you
say illegal, late hits is really fair. Well, back then,
what was the late hit. I can tell you that
you can take two and a half steps and hit
me with the crown of your helmet. They didn't call

(55:59):
a penalty, but they would make sure that they hit you.
You cross the face and they throw Lambert throw a
Forum shiver on you when you were on a shallow cross,
which now would be illegal. But they send a message
early to take fifteen yards the Steelers with all those
great players and the Raiders, to let you know you
are in for it today. Brother. So when you the

(56:19):
next time that receiver runs a dig after the first
one he caught and got pounded and a late hit
with a helmet to the sternum two steps late, the
next time he runs a dig, guess what he's waiting on.
He's looking looking for Donnie Shell, waiting for Donny Shell
or George Atkinson to lay that put it on him
right and the tatums of the world, so that message
can be sent. A little bit of nasty is needed

(56:41):
on a team. And on the other side, if you
got to I don't, they're going to start the need to.
I mean, they're going to need to start playing nasty.
And if it takes where your quarterback gets hit pulling people,
I don't know what the answer is because I'm not
in the film room with them. From my thing that
easy to get pressure on him. That the nasty of

(57:02):
when are you going to say enough's enough? Is my point.
I guess that's what I'm getting to because you don't
get to take offense. I can to old Raiders, Wiznowski
and those groups when they played, and Kevin Gogan have
said it to Brian last week. You stood around a
pile with those guys and you were getting ear hold
and now you may get kicked out now, but ear
hold to let you know that you don't get to
stand around a pile or hit my guy late, just

(57:24):
to send another message that stand around the pile you're
gonna get worn out. And they were nasty as could be.
I'm not saying to hurt anybody, but you know, there's
that feeling of we're not taking your craft today right
and I and it almost feels like there the offensive
line is at that point in pass.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Protection, well, it's you're playing on your heels. I mean,
you're you're kind of thinking more than playing right now.
And there's a huge part of that also too. I mean,
one thing that I think we saw last night we'll
get into on the other side. Kennethis right there biscuit
as well. You want to join them, do so someone
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Speaker 4 (58:00):
We'll talk about that. I think you know where I'm
going with this. We'll do that.

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Speaker 2 (59:57):
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Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
The Salisbury stakeout? Salsburyf takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Do you know that time of the day right here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. Dan Matthews in for Brian
Leema Tripoli, Emanuel Almore namesake himself Sean Salisbury. Texans lose
last night twenty one to thirteen to the Jets up
there in Jersey, and a lot of problems coming out
of that game.

Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
C J.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Stroud sacked eight times in that effort.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
After the game, Demiko, Ryan's talking about the protection up
front or I guess lack thereof.

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
Not sure what's.

Speaker 16 (01:00:45):
Happening up front.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
We'll watched the film and see what it is.

Speaker 10 (01:00:47):
But obviously we give up eight sacks, and you know,
every drop back or pass situation looks like, you know,
we're in scramble mode. So it's just not good enough
and we can't operate on time and gotta get that fixed.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
So I've talked about it before, Sean that you know,
we talked about some of the pass pro issues, and
this was going into the Indianapolis game last week, and
it improved somewhat. I mean, they still got the CJ
strout a couple of times in that one. But I
had a theory that after I'm trying to remember the
game before that was the the green Bay game and
it kind of looked a lot like last night up

(01:01:23):
in Green Bay, where I wondered if there was the
coaches meeting, you know how coaches a you know, meeting
rooms look like the long table head coach the front
and after the meeting's adjourned, he stops Bobby Slope before
he gets to the door and says, hang back for
a second, says this has to improve.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
We got to get better.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
I almost wonder because there's always the next day's meeting,
go over the film, do all that kind of stuff
with the team, and you almost wonder if it's gonna
be told offensive line stick back.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
To be I would imagine it's been addressed, but last
night was even more. And remember that I kind of
warned some people. Don't get too carried away with the
fact that you're going to play at two and five team.
They're they're they're better than this, I assure you at
some and they were humiliated by New England. So they
are going to They're gonna come ready to play, and
they already know that your weakness is their strength. They're

(01:02:18):
more physical than you on the offense than your offensive line.
They just are. And it bothers that bothers. Debiko Ryans
like nobody's business. They pushed them around in the past game.
And Joe Mixon, as you can see, brings his own
blocker a lot. I mean that run game is the
strength outside of the quarterback on their offense.

Speaker 13 (01:02:35):
And I just.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
You you when you're when this happens continually in the
same mistakes and you just can't do it. I don't
know if he would do that. I get your point
what you're saying, and you are one hundred percent correct
that it's not just offensive line, stay behind tight end coach,
running back coach, quarterback, coach, coordinator. We're all going to

(01:02:58):
talk about this and you to how do we improve
the protection? And then it's almost and I hate to
say this, but there's almost got to be that there's
eleven of you got I mean five of those guys.
You got a job to do, and you almost got
to get to that. I don't want to say ultimatum,
but you can't keep telling them they're good when they're
not right. That's mipe. I get you know what I'm saying.

(01:03:21):
They're grown enough that self esteem is important for all
of us. They're gonna you know, when their self esteem
will improve. You to get what I'm saying' sure there's
self esteems just fine on the field, is when they
actually start to protect the quarterback. So the beatings will
continue until morale improves. That's basically, and they tell their
technique and their ability to just say enough's enough. Wouldn't
that be enough agency for you know, I understand how

(01:03:41):
people you know think during the middle of the season
quite often assistant coaches absolutely and I don't think we're
to that point where you're not, but also to at
the same time, for everything you just talked about, the
building up, building up, building up, Then doesn't the criticism
land a little bit better at that point.

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Because you're kind of like, all right, well, this has
got to be coming from somewhere. Because it's a guy
that's known what it's like to play in this league
and he's saying this to me, then I probably need
to take it to heart.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Yeah, I And they're also is going to come a
point in time and the realities that people don't want
to recognize us. Oh, that's not the case from our
living rooms. But at some point in time we start saying, well,
is it technique? Is it coaching? What if they run
four slants in a row and are still getting pressure?
You know, if if we have that next time the
quick game, and then they're still having pressure, And so

(01:04:32):
it goes to you start to this, the domino thing
starts to go through, and then you get to the
one you don't really want to talk about. Kenny, You're
just not good enough. Kenneth in Orange wants to wait
in here on Sports Talk seven ninety Kenneth, what's up?

Speaker 17 (01:04:46):
Yeah, Sean, I'm glad you said that about somebody's waiting
as as being somebody else's strength. And I and he
and I brung up a game with the Broncos and
the Jets when the airwave was that and he had
an underside ass line and and and they was getting
pushed around and he confiensated and I'll.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Never forget this game.

Speaker 17 (01:05:08):
He got chased all night by Marty Lone, Kraayco and
gafting On, but he found a way and I remember
how he rolled away from it and what he did.
And I'm gonna go to another example, but you know
a non mobile called quarterback. I can remember when they
put kill my old lass in there with with Washington

(01:05:28):
one night, and he had a quick release to compensate
for that what he was getting on that left side.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
I'll never forget that man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Quarterback? Was that who'd you say, the last one?

Speaker 17 (01:05:42):
Billy Kilo? Yes, ye, yeah, And that he was old
as dirt, but he was able to get in there
and he got off that ball.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
I remember where the next man had to do it before.

Speaker 17 (01:05:53):
But but I just want to lead up and I
just want and put it in a way well, we
just don't really come in at nobody, but this stone
way I can put it man and and a form
of a question.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
If it's just too.

Speaker 17 (01:06:06):
Early to say Kenyon Green is a bust and Leon
Mi Tossle is washed up and I hang up in this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I appreciate the call, Kennethy. Yeah, Kenneth, Well, let's
let's talk about this when we come back. It bears
discussion because I think I can answer both in my
mind and well, and I know it. Sometimes it sounds
harsh and maybe not harsh enough. I try to haven't
been there know the benefit of the doubt. I'm not

(01:06:34):
saying haven't been there that means that I know more
than somebody else, but haven't seen how those guys the
fragility of a football franchise and a football team. But
truth is, you know what the mo your team should be.
You know what the the one that steps out in
front and is in the alley first, it's those guys.
And if that alley, if you're in first and they
can't walk stop a guy from walking right through you

(01:06:56):
to to get to your to the boss, then we
got a problem. And so we can address that next.
Randall great points, and I think it's it's something that
it's got to be. When you get manhandled physically, it's yanksious.
So well especially, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, football, that's
when your team you the last thing you ever want

(01:07:16):
to hear. And what's odd is that they're playing physical
in the run game. Their defense is physical. I'm just
talking about the offensive line that we usually look at
pass protection as a technique. Finessing no, because they're getting
walked back. So there's this physicality when you when that happens,
you don't want. Nobody wants to hear soft or finesse.
Now you hear that, you want to be able to

(01:07:36):
finesse teams when necessary. But when you hear that as
an offensive line, that is a stone cold slap right
in your face. But unfortunately they've earned that right now.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
Well, I mean, the only way to go is to
try to push back against that and actually be able
to get a push. And that's what Texans are trying
to do upfront. Biscuit and Randall see you guys right there.
If you want to join them, you can do so.
Someone three two one two five seven ninety. Once again,
that's some one three two one two five seven nineties.
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Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
So it is okay, there we go. It sounded like
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Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
The voice he has heard right there, the namesake himself,
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Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
We're reacting to the Texans twenty one to thirteen loss
last night to the Jets up in Jersey. Happier note though,
Rockets win one O eight, one o two up in Dallas,
beating the defending Western Conference champs one O eight, one
o two. So that was nice to see, beating them
by twenty three at one point. And then of course

(01:09:11):
Luca Kyrie and Klay Thompson started to get going a
little bit. But you have a huge shot make by
Jalen Green down the stretch, huge bucket by Aman Thompson,
and then the capper to pretty much put it away,
a little mid rage jumper right there near the elbow
by Dylan Brooks to be able to put him up
by seven and hold on and win.

Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
I looked at the box this morning and looked at
a few highlights. I did not see the game with
Halloween and football, I did not watch any of it
last night. But uh, as you said over five hundred
and I think that from last year to this year,
as long as they buy in on the defensive end,
they're gonna score. I mean, we know Jalen Green could score,
and there's gonna have They're gonna have to step it up.
I like the physicality they brought in, having some bodies,

(01:09:53):
and we know Sengun's got his thing going on. I
didn't get to see the game last night, but looking
at it looked impressive.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
He's this entire team. And you talked about Jalen Green.
That's where I was going is he's taken his game
to another level this year. I mean, you're seeing a
guy challenge early.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
I remember before the trade deadline, everybody thought, are we
going to move Jalen Green last year and one of
our great callers, Biscuit as you know, was talking about
that he's young, let's let him. We don't want to
move him, let's let him work into it. He said
it last year, right, and he did in Jalen Green,
I felt like he matured two years in three months.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
You're seeing a more confident shooter right now. You're also
seeing a guy that still has that game of all right,
I can put my head down, go the lane, go
the basket, get felled, and I mean he had a
acrobatic off the glass last night. I think it was
an end one but still and also as well. You
know I mentioned this on RAP last night that Ryan

(01:10:48):
Hollins in that second Spurs game, it talked about his
defensive improvements. I mean, that's another part of his game.
And what's a part of his game.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
You're gonna have to to continue to have Udoka bay
into what you're what you're not, what he's teaching, how
you responding exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
I mean, what did we see from Medoka last year
in the fourth quarter with Jalen Green a lot? Okay,
you don't want to do that side of it, well,
then guess what you're sitting over here, because I need
that part out of you as well.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Even when the offensive end is not going well for you,
it doesn't matter. I mean, listen, basketball teams aren't set
by the way they can score and of course, you
got to score points. If you've got Steph Curry and
Klay Thompson and you're and you're knocking down threes in
there heyday from from you know, the locker room, I
get all that, But the team's identity. Championship teams as

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much as we like the Celtics this past year, and
I'm talking about Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, the way
they can score and get after it right, their staple
is they are their physical and they play perimeter defense.
They get after it. We know their star on every team.
We're always going to lead with all the stars. Can
they score, we know, we know that. But the moo

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of your team and the identity of your team, I
would assure you most coaches want to be on the
defensive end, and they know when you don't, you can score.
If you score one twenty, give up one twenty eight,
go anywhere. It's like a football team Southern cal right
with Camela Williams. Or score thirty eight, get beat forty
two to thirty eight. Right, yeah, And so what are
we talking about? Oh there, finase team. The quarterback is
really good. Butt. You don't want the butt? If they
played the defensive end, they'll score enough on the other end.

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And those are the type of games you have to
win when you're not playing well offensively. You got to
win ninety four, ninety two, eighty eight, ninety you just do.
I know, we don't see much Detroit New York Knicks
eighty six eighty four games much anymore, but championship teams
is even in the NBA, knock you around and defend you.
And so as good as this young team is and

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they can score the basketball, I think it's a great
message by Udoka that says you're gonna play both ends
or you're gonna sit next to me.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Well, I mean, you mentioned Boston and Joe Manzola has
done a great job of phenomenal But who was their coach.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Before that? You mean, yeah, oh the man we have here, Doka,
no doubt there, I mean, and he had a hand
in helping those guys develop that. But it's also not
just it's an attitude and it's a commitment to it.
It's like the run game on a football team when
I hear somebody's oh, yeah, we're gonna run it, and
then after the second or third three and out, all
they do is throw at that's right, they throw, They

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get desperate, they start throwing because they have no patience
in dealing with Okay, a couple times they're gonna embarrass
us in the run game. That's just the way football works.
The same in basketball. If you decide that you know, okay,
we're not defending. I got a bunch of young guys
that think on the offensive and let's just go score. Well,
then you have the night with that defensive teams playing
their ass off and you get hammered by twenty because
you couldn't play the other end as well. Defense sustains

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you in times when you're not playing well because a
lot of times you're not gonna shoot well. You can
always play good defense. That doesn't mean the best player
in the league that you're gonna stop Jokic from getting
a triple double, but as long as three of them don't, right,
so you can survive playing defense on a bad offensive night.
You rarely can survive by playing good offense and playing

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zero defense. Defense has stains you longer in any sport,
hockey included, than it does in then it does. Offense.
Offense looks pretty defense and I wins championships. Defense is
your sole and the identity of your football, basketball or
baseball team. You think the Yankees wish they played defense

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at a fifth inning? All the home run talk and
the MVP talk. Three three particular plays in a fifth
inning sent them home. Yeah, yeah, it's valid everywhere you look.
I promise you pitcher's fielding practice. You work on it
in spring training, routine ground ball to throw the runner
out ahead of you. There you go, and it crosses
your fan and even to one right there can of

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corn out in center field and eye off the ball
like you learned in the seventh and when you're in
the little league. Now, okay, so, and it's the same
thing here. If you can't defend, defend. The Kansas City
Chiefs did not. I mean, Mahomes is Mahomes. But you
know why they got the Super Bowl and won it
last year. Steve Spagnola's defense was doing it again this year. Well,
and that's the thing. I mean, you saw they kind

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of turn on against the Bills, won that game. Then
they go to Baltimore. You're thinking Baltimore after they handle
the Texans the way they did. Oh man, them playing here,
just playing with pressures and get in the backfield. I
mean they are, and you're not gonna win a lot
of games score thirteen points.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
Well, I mean the baseball example again twenty twenty two,
the Astros won the World Series because of how good
that bullpen was.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
There you go and you include that in the defense,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:24):
So you mentioned biscuit Biscuits, you say his name, he appears.
Gets you on the other side as well as Randall
as well. Promise, get to all of y'alls. We'll get
back into the Texans conversation. Mention the notable absence. Need
to expand upon that. Do that on the other side
as well. As we close out the eight o'clock hour
here on Sports Talk seven ninety, we want to win.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Sports Socks seven ninety Fight Song Fridays. You hear college
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the bands this morning for us here as we react
to the Texans twenty one thirteen loss last night to
the Jets up there in Jersey. Biscuit wants to wait
in here on Sports Talk seven ninety Biscuit with ub
Buddy the man, how we doing.

Speaker 12 (01:16:40):
The scene's brother, Hey, shin, my my, my, Dalen Green.
They weren't shine out of town. Signed They trying to
put him on the bus out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Yep. Not Now man, he's driving. He's driving the bus.
Now man, he's killing it.

Speaker 12 (01:16:57):
Yeah, he's speaking up the roo. I was at the
sports bar last night, and of course they had all
the TVs on the text and I say, hey, man,
put this a screen right here on the Rockets. So
I was watching the Rockets and Sean the Rockets. My
prediction is a seven game improvement over last.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Year, and that would get him to like about four Yeah,
the seven game gets into forty would get him to
forty nine wins. What would that be? Forty nine and
forty one?

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
Is that it?

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
That would get no forty know that? Because that's only no,
it would be forty It can't be forty nine. Let's
see that forty nine and forty would be eighty nine games.
That's too many. It's eighty two games, thirty thirty four
thirty three, thirty three, thirty three, forty nine, thirty three. Yeah,
that's eighty two games, that's right, forty stand and that
would be and that would mean improvement again because they

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made what a twelve to fifteen game improvement from from
twenty three to nineteen nineteen games.

Speaker 12 (01:17:51):
Nineteen game brew I'll say fifteen last year then and
they made a nineteen game.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
There you go. So in forty nine and thirty three,
BUS could get them in the playoffs, don't you agree?
Get them in the playoffs?

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
I see them.

Speaker 12 (01:18:04):
Uh, but let me ask you this, Sean. You and
you have to always defer to something. You know, when
you're trying to get some information on something, you want
to go to somebody who was in that field and
have expertise on it, you know, because we all can
have an opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
We think what we see.

Speaker 12 (01:18:18):
But let me first of all, Dan, tell me how
many times they ran the ball the second half compared
to how many times they ran the first half, because
it seemed like the game was running the ball, because
that's how you also stop a passers, Sean, as you
run the ball, you know what I mean? They want
to run up the field and run some traps and

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counters and draws.

Speaker 8 (01:18:40):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
They got away from.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Yeah, I was, you know what's it's oddly not odd
but great. You say that because there was I was.
There's a game war on, you know there you watching it.
I watched the Halloween and stuff, and I'm watching this
and intently and paying attention, and I'm thinking, am I
missing something here? Because they couldn't tacklem they and stopped.
There was like five yards of touch every time Nick
Mixon touched it. And it felt to me like they

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were a team that was playing from behind by three
touchdowns in the second half. That's that's how I felt now.
And I thought, well, maybe I'm overrating this, maybe they
balanced it out. But I just felt you know, games
like that, when you become pass happy, it's like you
feel like you're three touchdowns down and you got to
chase right in a quarter. I almost felt like they

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to prove a point they got They got away from
what the last night's success was basically off schedule, throwing
and running the football. What were you gonna say, Dan
about the East Station.

Speaker 6 (01:19:40):
To answer his question, it was they ran the ball
twenty two times in the first half. Seventeen out of
Mix and one out of goomble wall A.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
The rest c J.

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
Stroud by necessity thirty six times throughout the entire game.
So obviously the math right there fourteen times in the second.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
So they ate less. So maybe it wasn't, but I'm
with you, Biscuit. It felt like it felt like they
went into desperate mode passing and they were they were
around the leader or either in the leader close to
the whole game. I think it was necessity on two fronts.

Speaker 6 (01:20:10):
I think it was not only that where you found
yourself behind after the miraculous catch right there by Garrett Wilson,
but also too at the same time, I think it's
Tamiko Ryans and Bobby Slow saying we don't have Damian Peers.
Are we really going to have to rely on Daria
Goombalwalle at this point? In JJ Taylor, I mean, I
think that kind of fed fed into him and I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
But I can't. Then I can't you know how important
Joe Mixon is saving him for a loss? No, I'm
not where he's ready for Detroit. I can't because I
can't do it. I get what you're saying. Your depth
into the band with this. It's mixing or bust right now,
I get it. But that game was winnable on the
road against the Jets team that Mini thought was a
playoff team. Those are the ones you you got to

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go in and win. And to me, the ball ain't
heavy and they get ten days, they get ten days
before Detroit. So to me, I'm wearing I'm wearing if
it takes thirty five carries, I'm wearing them out. And
the problem is they've put them in this position because
they can't block me and you up front. That's really
in the ten.

Speaker 6 (01:21:11):
But I also though, I mean, I think that second
part though, in Biscuit, all you get to your point
here in second I think that second part though, whether
you like it or not, I do think that factors.
And because you see what this offense looks like without
Joe Mixon and you see what you can do with
him on the field, Biscuit, please continue.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
Well, the thing I was.

Speaker 12 (01:21:29):
Gonna get through, Seanne is we're talking on alas in
line alis in line Kenyan Green. Okay, number seven Shawn
you you you're the expert. It just seemed like number
seven ain't playing as well.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
As he was last year. He's not. He's that's a fact.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
He's not.

Speaker 12 (01:21:47):
Yeah, and everybody talk about there was some place last
night was number seven took a fag and like, man,
get rid of the ball because he kind of my
one time he took him out of field goal range
and then another time he made it in a loan
field goal by taking a sack, and so it seemed
like you brought the porter earlier. Then about throwing to

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the backs and the tight ends, it just seemed like
Czy don't like throwing at those guys. It just seems
like he wants to go for the big throw and
so he holds it, holds it and you know your
line is not that good. May get rid of it and.

Speaker 17 (01:22:19):
My wrong shine it.

Speaker 12 (01:22:20):
It's like, man, come on, man, you got to come
on the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Ball with the man. Yeah, and I think we all know, Biscuit,
thanks for the coffee for you. I think we all know.
And it's hard. You may not want to let people.
We can't criticize Stratgy. You can. The guy is special,
make no mistake about it. And but Biscuits red his
performance is different.

Speaker 12 (01:22:39):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
It may not just be him, it's it's an accumulation
of offensive line. It's accumulation of you got a back
you're relying on and you lean on him. It's the
injuries to wide receivers and digs and cons. There's a
lot of factors that come into it. But even then
and and Biscuit, you're right, I one believe that. And
I was the only thing that can concerned me about

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him was with all the praise, not that he'd take
it and then begin to not go to work. Of
course he's working. Is that it's easy to understand, Okay,
the hero part of it, and now with two receivers out,
what happens Colin has been out now it'll be a
month coming this week. Is that you was always because
everybody we know we can make every throw bingo, you

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start to hit to the point where you're like you
trust your arm and you trust your ability so much
after the success you had last year, do you start
getting into that? And right now there's not as much
separation without Collins as digs. That's the notable absence right there.

Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
You just led right to it because he has so
many times even this season as well. Third down, Hey
we really need one here, Yolo here, It goes, there's
number twelve. Well, he misses Nico Collins in the worst way, right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
Third and ten plus going into last night's game, third
and long, as we call it in the NFL. Yeah,
they're the number one team in the league. He doesn't
trust that. He doesn't trust Xavier for that. He does
not trust Dalton Schultz for that converting third and lungs.
So also, what that does that carries over into first
and ten. You think, well, we're so good at pushing

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the ball down the field. I can take extra chances
and trust it up. And I love that about him.
I love guts, but the ability to sometimes you got
to win another way. Understanding going into a game. I
can remember Brian Billick one time told me we're going again.
We were on our fourth back. He goes, it's you
and me today, buddy, which meant not to disrespect the back.
He said. Just pregame, he said, we'll have dropped. He goes,

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if it takes fifty times, we're going to drop back
and throw fifty times. Meaning we were so depleted there
and we knew going in. So my thought process was, Okay,
you got to make every throw right, and it's a
stroud when you got injuries, you know they're not protecting you.
So what is what kicks into a young guy hero worship?
The hero part of I got to be a hero.
I got to make every single player we're in trouble

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and in the process of trying to make every play
hold the ball too long because you're waiting for a
guy to separate. You're not getting the same separation from
these receivers as you normally get from precise, dynamic route runners.
They're still learning. And then coupled with the fact that
one thousand and one, one thousand and two, bam, you're
bailing because you can't hold the ball, and they're not
running a lot of quick game hitches and slants, and

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the screen game right now is fairly putrid. They're not
good in I don't know why mixing is not more
in the past game. All those make for it. And
he's not playing as well as he did last year
for a lot of different reasons.

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
And I will give him credit for the recognition to
know when to run, because that is part of CJ's game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
He doesn't do it other than all awareness.

Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
Absolutely he does, and but the times he ran last
night were because it was absolutely necessary, and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
I was smart with it, throwing the ball when necessary,
running with it necessary, not taking unnecessary.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
But the holding onto the football thing though that Biscuit
brought up. There were two or three times last night
where Sam, I mean, where I'm yelling it out loud.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
At the TV, where I'm saying, you've got to get
rid of the foot. But there's no especially even if
you're burning the football right, doesn't matter. You got to
get rid of the football built in. Not take a
hit here, built in. And you absolutely have to understand
that sometimes I say this to eighth graders that I coach.
You have to understand that sometimes the best play is
throwing it to your mom or your or your buddy

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in the stands, burn.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
The football, like I said, And there were times last
night where that was a problem. Randall, I see you
right there, Be patient, man. I get to you on
the other side as well as Conrad James Andy CEU
all right there. If it's the same, Andy, we had
an interesting encounter earlier this week. Hopefully we have a
better one this time. Andy, We'll do that on the
other side here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
To usc trous longtime friends shown Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Ryan Lima, go Lobo. This is the Sean sALS Very Show.
You know, the fourth quarter is when you find out
how good of a team you are. And the Texans
at times not been a great fourth quarter team. But
for the most part this year they have been. But
a lot of the warts that we've five and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
They were five and one and one score games I
think in the game going in the last night, I
believe at five and one. So they they they this year.
They know how to win games that they are that
are one score away. They just couldn't pull it off
last night. And that's something that I've talked about too
as well. Is I mean, there are things that they
need to fix with this team. Obviously, first and foremost
we're looking at You don't want your quarterback at the

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very least getting sacked eight times last night.

Speaker 6 (01:27:46):
You don't even want half of that. You just don't
want them getting touched. Here's the other thing as well,
and Randall get to you here in just a second.
Conrad James ce right there as well. You want to
join them, do so? Semon one three two, one two
five seven ninety is talking about the offensive line, and
you know they feel like right now that it's more
of a reactionary response out of them as opposed to

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being proactive in a way you can be proactive. We
talked about a little bit earlier. I understand the penalties
that they've had, and I think a little bit of
that mindset and having that in the back of their mind,
I think it's kind of taken away some of their
aggressiveness Sean, because I think no doubt, because I think
that you would possibly see the one of the plays

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you'll see is sometimes you know there's a pile after
the guy gets tackled, and then you see seventy six,
seventy eight somebody like that driving a guy back, throwing
them down to the ground, doing things like that, worried
about getting a fifteen yard penalty, worried about what could
possibly happen, as opposed to what you can do to
make things happen. And I think that, honestly, that's kind

(01:28:50):
of feeding into why you're seeing them play the way
they are.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Right now, well until they and that's a them thing,
and they got to that's something they got to get
taken care of because nine games in. I hate to
tell him this, don't have time to slow down and
worry about somebody's feelings right now. Just don't well they
I mean, you got to put him in the best
position to hear. It's simple. You got to put him
in the best position to excel and succeed. If you're

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the coach, and if you're the player, you also have
to validate their decision to play you. And it really
comes down. I was listening to Bobby nightclip about motivation,
what the best motivation is and the truth is and
you can't approach this as a sacred cow business. There
comes a point and maybe just maybe a guy or
two just aren't good enough to start for you. Maybe

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because we can make all well it's this, and it's this.
When do you just finally say that guy's the guy
across from him is always better than him. I'm not
saying it's the case now, but when do you say
the guy across from is just better. He's just a
better football player. He's not fitting in. There's not a
buy in these lost confidence, like you said, and so
and then the greatest motive. I don't believe in sacretary.

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Your lifetime Achievement award warrants you an automatic start. I
don't care about that. They don't, and you know I'll
give you if some have had a bad game, I don't.
I'm not talking about knee jerk decisions. We are far
enough along. This is a knee jerk. This is a
trend that says there's pisspoor a protection team as there
is in the league, and there's good players up there.
But when it comes to this, whether it's the coach,

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the quarterback, the players, the chipper, the tight end, the
five interior, the five offensive lineman, whatever it is, it
ain't working in pass protection. Yet. They're doing a great
job in the run game, but you can't win one
dimensional that way. You have to be able to protect
the passer if that means max protect and run two
man routes of the entire game. But now you're putting
the band within a problem. So at some point time

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you may have to set somebody down permanently, because what's
the greatest motivation that ass sitting on the bench, as
Bobby Knight as I paraphrase, the great press conference.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
That he has, and then the backside sends a message
to the brain. Brain tells you you need to play
the body. The body then gets his ass up off
the seat and plays better. Hence, you know, the greatest
motivation is benching a guy. And I'm not saying that's
knee jerk. I'm saying, now, nine games in, when do
you finally wake up? Do you wake up in the
middle of December and say, same things will happen, let's
try now. Well, and that's the thing too, you know,

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talking about some of the pass pro issues that this
team has had, and Demico Ryans laid it out pretty perfectly.
I think it was after the Colt Schemer. It was
after the Packer game where his line was one hundred
percent spot on. He goes, look, it all comes down
to you just have to do the job. Like that's
what it really comes down to. When it's all said
and done.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
You can't. You got to find somebody. If you don't
do it, somebody is waiting for an opportunity to do it.
It's I know, it's a harch business. It's a harsh business,
but it's the way it isn't. He even said he
goes eight sacks, and it seems like every other time
we drop back or we're on the move and scrambling,
which to him, it's unacceptable. And Demiko Ryans knows this.

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And I'm just telling you people don't understand how hard
it is during a season when it comes to the
offense or the physicality part of it. You can't stop
down and put a guy through sixteen hours a day
of teaching because you're putting a game plan and the
next game will be here before you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
Just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
You don't have the time. You don't game plans a team.
It only gets so much time a week that you
got to get stuff done. And it can't be in
going into for one guy's feelings because well, dude, everybody
else is waiting on you to get your ass out
of your stance and get a grip and get to
get a hold of the guy who's dominating you and
walking your back to the quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
It's it's the perfect example right here, too quickly. Just
point to the poker example of what do you do
with a hand that you know you can't win?

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
You fold?

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
So that's where I don't think you're necessarily reactionary. I
think you're strategic at that point where let's just go
ahead and throw out a bagular name right here. If
you're kicking Kenyan Green cannot play left guard if you're
getting on this starting offensive line right now, and that's
a problem. And last night it was buying necessity with injury.
It proved it to you last game when you had
Jared Patterson playing right there, then you had to put

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them back in and you've kind of seen the results.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
And so the two questions that we were asked was one,
is Kenyon Green if we got is it too premature
for us to say that he's a possible bust. The
answer absolutely is no, it's not too soon. I know
he's been hurt, and that part of the the ability
of judging the guys your availability. Sorry to tell you,
but it is he's been hurt. I get it. He's
in the emphasy. He could turn out to be a
pro bowler if he's coached right and change his things

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and gets work on it. But as we sit today,
know on what you know now, you would you wouldn't
sniff him in the first round. So and that's just
the reality of it so, and when you say that,
people are well you don't think you can. It's not personal,
and I think he could be a hell he's starting
in the NFL. He can be a good player. That's
the part that I don't think people understand with it.
It's not personal, but it's also too. Look, it's the

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same thing on an NFL field, it's the same thing
in our working lives. We're workers, just like you all are.

Speaker 6 (01:33:50):
And if you know somebody at your office, it's kind
of the Alec Baldwin line and Glengarry Glenn Ross, nice guy,
f you go home and play with your kids.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
The whole point is, while it sounds harsh, the point
is you can't get the job done. I have no use.
I'm sorry, But you're also putting to it selfish to
keep playing. So I'm not saying here but in any
situation to keep running somebody out there who puts the
rest of the guys. One guy's feelings are not more
important than the entire team's success. They're just not. I'm sorry,

(01:34:19):
that's just the reality of getting paid and playing pro sports.
So well, it sounds harsh or not, so yes, Kenyon Green,
We've seen enough body. I mean, we've seen enough to
say could he be not that he is? Could he
be yes? Could he be a Pro Bowl or if
things get right yes, But all I'm just going by
what we see the guy right now, whether it's confidence, technique, nastiness, feet, hands,

(01:34:42):
the way he's probably not understanding. Does the can't develop
the concept of what we're trying to do offensive line
with certain schemes and blocking protections, It ain't it right now.
And the other one with Tunsel. If you're just judging
by the guy who drops back and plays and we're
just judging snap snap Tons is a really good player.
If you're telling me that Tunsil Tunsil the hype right

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now at times, all these penalties, that's part and parcel
to being a great offensive lineman. If you're saying, would
you take him, wait, would you take him first over
Trent Williams or something? The answer is absolutely not, because
he's got to be more disciplined, and it filters down
to the young guys watching how he takes care of
penalties and the rest of it. He's a really good player.
He's not the best to tackle in football right now.

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He's just not well.

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
It's all penalties. Well when it comes down. See that's
the thing too. And Ross had a great line, uh
Ross Villa reale of before the snap. He's not very
good in the snap during the play, there's no question
about it. But what that boils down to is, well,
he's none None of them are playing their best football
this year. Here's what needs to be said to Laramie Tunsel.

(01:35:47):
Are you enter you out like? I mean, I understand
you know you you're you're banged up, all those different things.
That's fine, but training tell them to get in line.
But training, training camp, we need you here. I mean,
you know, I was watching the Manning cast earlier on
in the season and Randa will get to you here
in just a second. But Brandon, I you kind of
dropping the end zone and Peyton Manning got visibly angry,

(01:36:07):
and Eli's kind of like, what's up there? And he goes,
he goes, you know, he misses training camp. The timing
is off. We need the reps. You need to be here,
fix your contracts, do all that kind of stuff. But
that's the time you have to be here. That's what
he's got to understand is all of these you know,
just not kind of feeling it today?

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
What did we just seeing Indian Appolis. Don't tell me
that the that the move away from Anthony Richardson was
not predicated about what we saw last Sunday. I don't
believe you. If that's what you're telling Kay. And if
I tell you Joe and you're talking about pre and
posts right, and both of them post snap, all that's
great pre snap. He's not good pre snap with his penalties,
and he's made some most of them are pre snap
legal procedure movement penalties. With if I told you that,

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Joe Mix and Manny rushes for hundred and five and
ten hundred and fifteen yards a game, but he holds
two times a game and moves from the backfield and
off sides twice a game, So four times a game
he's puts in a buy. Are you gonna tell me
Joe Mix is one of the top two backs in league. No,
he's on top two backs and league. When he got that,
I'm talking about just using it. He's not doing He's
he I can make the argument he's the MVP on

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this football team right now offensively. But so the same
thing goes and once again, just because you're considered a
star and you're making the most money doesn't mean you're
above criticism. Tunsl's got to be better, Kenyan Green's got
to be better. They got to be better all the
way across it. Because when you're last in the league
at something and it's involved in pressuring your quarterback and

(01:37:30):
taking hits, then you either got to take some pride
and do it or I got to replace you, no
matter who you are. Screw the sacred cow stuff. Shack
Mason's got to be better. And they're all good, and
Tunsl's a hell of a player. How pre snap is
part of If the quarterback can't get you to a
good play in pre snap, is he worth a hill
of beans in post snap? Maybe okay, but he'll never

(01:37:50):
expand his game. Same at tackle. If you can't get
it right pre snap, how the hell can I call
you the best left tackle or the best right guard
of the best center in football if you can't do both.
It's a small thing. That's everything, is really what Its
small things are what barry teams and will win championships
both ways to the extreme, and they're not doing the
small And this ain't a small thing. When it comes to.

Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
Pass pro well, I mean, and that's the difference of
what wins in January and February, and that's what the
Texans are trying to get to Randall.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
I promise, buddy, gonna get to you. On the other side, Conrod, James,
Adrian see you all there as well. Someone three two
one two five seven ninety will continue the Texans conversation
on the other side.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
Sean Salisbury Show. Dann Matthews in for Brian Alma here
on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury. It's a Seawan
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Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
In Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
Fight So on Friday here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
Dan Matthews in for Brian Alima, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore
and Sean himself as we continue the Sexans conversation here.
Sexans losing last night Thursday Night football in Jersey against
the Jets twenty one to thirteen the final. Their Rockets

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win one o two on the road at the Mavericks.
We've gotten into them just a little bit toast fight song.
By the way, that's what I was actually gonna ask too.
I just I already heard Gordy, you know Hey man,
you gotta be quicker out of the bricks. Man, go
to get you back? Tripoli, Who do we have there?

Speaker 7 (01:39:30):
This is University of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
Okay, they got a big one this weekend SMU, by
the way to Indeed, we'll probably get in a little
bit of college football later on in the show as
well of the you know, soon to be coach openings
that are out there, because they always are. Either a
school tells a coach, hey walk with us, your key
card doesn't work anymore, or the new age, Oh that

(01:39:54):
NFL opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
Yeah, name, image and likeness and the transfer portal. I
don't have to do that anymore. Yeah, I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Rhtt.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
Lashley's going to be up for some jobs. Yeah, he's
done a hell of a job, he really has.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
I mean, that's a team that might have an opportunity
they run the table here to get into one of
those final twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
He was a hot commodity. You remember when he was
an assistant coach when maybe it was at Auburn. Yeah,
he was. He was a the quarterback coaching, offensive coordinator.
He climbed the ranks and was high regard. And then
there's guys kind of caught up, and there's a bunch
of them, and then all of a sudden he was
continued to be a coordinator and then got the I

(01:40:32):
think he was at Clemson as well for a minute
as a coordinator, and then he got this gig and
has turned has really done one hell of a job
man as a head coach, and he will be up
for jobs, there's no doubt. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
So the Mustangs with a big one against Pitt this weekend.
Of course, Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, Florida got a
lot to pay attention to on the college football front.
I promised it, finally delivering Randall and Sugarland. What's up, buddy,
ain't good.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
Morning, guys. I'm really a teed off fan this morning.
I paid on fine.

Speaker 18 (01:41:06):
I deserve a root fund.

Speaker 5 (01:41:08):
And not only that, I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
Moved to Nick Serio making them move by today.

Speaker 18 (01:41:14):
It's just a couple of players we need to remove
and replace, you know. And I don't believe in the
coaches being buddy buddy with the players because this is
a business and we need to get the job done.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
And not only that, I think that they should run too.

Speaker 18 (01:41:31):
Running backs out the bank fields, so one of them
get picked up on the slap on the blocket.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
You know, I don't know what you guys think about that,
and uh, we need to get it gone.

Speaker 18 (01:41:42):
I'm gonnapset this morning, and I paid nine hundred and
some dollars to gona see them for Christmas Day. And
you know I'm gonna be ticked off if they lose
that game. We don't have time to play around and
mess around. Let's get it get gone, and let's protect
c J. I think quarter back and I hang up

(01:42:04):
the list. Man, I'm upset this morning.

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
I appreciate the call, Randall, which by the way, too,
I mean not to take away business from anyone, but
if your team is on Thursday Night football on Amazon Prime,
you can watch it on local TV, which that's what
I did last night of being able to. I do
have Primes so could have had that option. But if
it's in an NFL market, you get to watch it
that way. Yeah, local little PSA for you all going forward.

(01:42:29):
If maybe they're on Peacock or something like that, you'll
be able to catch it here. But you know, the
two backs, you don't really see that on the pro level.
But what you did see last year Andrew Beck was
a guy that they relied upon pretty heavily.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
You don't see the full back used a ton. Well,
you can do what Randall wants with the second tight end.
He can a guy who's a move tight end. You
can line him up on the wing, you can line
him up with his hand in the dirt, you can
stand him up. You saw last night they had gone
what empty or wides and they'd flexed out Dalton Schultz.
You can run two tight ends and get the same

(01:43:06):
effect with pass protection, and quite frankly, should even be
better because your tight end should actually be better blockers
in pass protection, at least in a chipping. They're bigger bodies,
they're tall, I mean a little more leverage. So now
full back, if you had a true fullback like we
used to an eye formation to get up on the
linebacker and do that straight ahead down. But in open space,

(01:43:27):
those tight ends are a little more mobile than fullback,
so they can move better. So it's okay to use
two tight ends. And they will. And you got to
keep whatever it takes to keep the quarterback upright. And
as far as Nick Cassario making a trade, it's all fine.
And Danny and Randall's right. You want to go out,
you scour the waiver wire or the trade possibilities of
giving up a pick to go get alignment and another

(01:43:48):
receiver and to elevate that a separation and get it.
Is there some way out there to go do it?
Here's the problem. It's not free agency. You gotta find
somebody who wants to deal with you, and then they're
gonna usually take the best offer and if somebody outbids
you somewhere else. So that's what you're in. It's a
two way street to have to play.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
That bingo the second part right there, because you're going
to be talking with somebody and trying to negotiate your
way through it picks all these different things. They also
either they themselves being the GM that's on the phone
with Nick Cassario or somebody that's in on the call says, hey,
they really need this, ask for that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Well you'll, you'll, you'll do everything you can to bamboozle
them because you know they're desperate to get a player. Bingo,
and when you're desperate to get a player during the season,
they hold you hostage and say, well you said that
three how about let's go make it a two and
then a conditional fifth rounder for that guy that turns
to a fourth if he starts for you eight to eight,

(01:44:44):
the last of your last seven of the last eight games.

Speaker 6 (01:44:47):
So yeah, I would hold him hostage too. You see
it all the time in baseball. I mean, you don't
think that Toronto. When Dana Brown came to them about Ysay,
Kakuchi said, hey, you know, in so many words, we
got to make is hurt too as well, because if
we're trading away a guy and they really need a guy,
well then we've got to really make them show, hey,

(01:45:08):
how bad do you want the guy? And I think
that's kind of what Nick Cassio could be up against
in terms of trying to bolster up this offensive line,
which I think coming into last night we thought, even
with Nico Collins on the horizon of coming back, that
a receiver with Digs going down was going to be needed.
I think that probably if you have again that punch list,
the punch list at the top is we've got to

(01:45:30):
find somebody that come in here and make this group
of five.

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
And that's the offensive line. And I'm telling you, when
you can't lose your top two receivers and still be
the same. You just can't well, you can't lose the
top guy.

Speaker 6 (01:45:43):
I mean, I think that Diggs did some good things,
and I also say too that I think a lot
of the maybe some people being disappointed in Stefan Diggs
wasn't his fault. It was the offense in general, because
the offense in general has been I think in many
ways the parallels to what we thought of the Astros,
especially with runners in scoring position, you expect more, you

(01:46:03):
expect them.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
They've been consistent this year. Defense has played their ass off. Yes,
they they have. I was not to say we didn't
have questions about the defense either.

Speaker 6 (01:46:12):
We were worried about the you know, the the front
on the defensive line, and they've been fine linebackers as well.

Speaker 4 (01:46:19):
Without Christian Harris, they've been great. They've given up a
couple of big plays. The move that DeVante Adams on
fourth and fourth down put on Lassiter was took him,
took the young fellow the school.

Speaker 6 (01:46:31):
I told you during the break that there were a
couple of times last night that Laster was on the
shoulder with his hazard lights on.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
That that was he that that's a formal education on
how you get off press coverage and if you're a
young guy, how the veterans make it work. And this
offense without digs and Nico Khms need more separation which
will enable the quarterback to get rid of the ball.
At one point in time, held it, held it, held it,
held it. Help. I mean it's it's trying to and
good coverage in the back end, and the Jets have

(01:46:58):
good corners and they can cover. But when you go
back to what you're saying about, it's not just the
digs production and digs. The combination of Diggs and Collins
were leading the league in yards and Collins was at
the top of that as well. Is that Digg's reputation
forces you as a defensive coordinator to respect what he's
all about because he is still a good player. Collins

(01:47:18):
is the number one here. But when you lose both,
now you're asking a three to be number one. And
when you lose it's like anything else. If you lose
two corners and your nickel and dime package comes in,
you're in essence on your seventh and eighth defensive back player.
Because of your defensive back, the defensive back the players
there because you go your nickel and dimebacks. Nickel really

(01:47:39):
is in all the time because we're three wide receivers
so often. But when you lose two of those guys,
now you've oh my gosh, you're on your seventh and
eighth guy. And that's that. My receivers are usually better.
When I say that, because six is dime than the
seventh and eighth, that's really the depth of your secondary.
And when you lose that, and there's depth, there's there's
a big chasm between one and two and three and

(01:47:59):
four as far as cover guys. You're not gonna be
as good and I don't have to defend you like
I would. Even though Digs may not be as productive
as he was when he started in Minnesota, I can
tell you this, defensive coordinators still respect his game. And
you're on your third guy, and if they shut that
guy down, now you're digging and you're you're digging deep now,
and uh, there's there's things that need fix this offense.

(01:48:20):
I would have never thought it going into the offense
is the weaker the weaker group, and it's not close
right now. It's at least the the the lesser productive
of the two. Well, that's weaker. Same I there is.
We We could say what we want with the potential.
The potential is still there. Potential coaches fired, Yeah, okay, production,
that's the p word. I want production. There's no doubt

(01:48:42):
of the potential. There's no doubt. But we can't keep
living up. The offense is the weakness, and there's if.
There's only two groups and the defense. So second place
is last place. The bottom line is, yes, the quarterback's great, yes,
when they're healthy, if, if, if, But the offensive line,
that's it's taking the bar down so far. Now do

(01:49:03):
Mixon if you're Joe Mixon's not in this lineup right now?
And how much more pressure is Stroud taken? Now take
Stroud out if he's banged up, and then and and that,
and with the two receivers out, Now, tell me what happens.
As much as I like Davis Mills, you're looking at
a whole different team, and that's two snaps away from
that happening. So as much as I and I love
my off the offensive lineman, I do, but we can't

(01:49:23):
keep sugarcun and say they're gonna be Okay. We're nine
games in and they ain't Okay, right now, I think
there is something to answer to what you just said
right there. We'll do that on the other side as
well as get to Conrod James and Adrian will continue
the Texans Conversation Dan Matthews and for Brian Lima he
Shawn Salisbury Triple Emmanuel Elmore Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Live out there The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
I mentioned the post earlier. Lord his wife Lauren would
love this one right here. Yeah, because she is. Let
me get I know, she's give me a hit.

Speaker 6 (01:50:11):
It's in the sec they wear blue. She Kentucky girl,
absolutely on you cat. That's right there, you go, and
they don't they don't call them the wildcats, then just
call them the cats.

Speaker 12 (01:50:23):
Cat.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:24):
And you say the cats right there in Kentucky. You
know who you're talking about. So there you go, Well
Kentucky Wildcat. Love for you there, Lauren. But we continue
along here on Fight Song Friday here on the Sean
at Salisbury Show. You know one of the things that
you had talked about with the handling players. So we'll
get to here in just a second. But I've kept

(01:50:45):
Conrad James waiting long enough Conrad, what's up, Buddy?

Speaker 7 (01:50:50):
Well and I.

Speaker 16 (01:50:51):
Watched the game last night. I'm both the Texan and
Jeff fan. We have to realize the Jets. One thing
they do very well and they have their problems, of course,
is defense. They were number one defense last year and
they're still continuing that trend. Now I'm saying what everybody

(01:51:12):
else is saying. It's so glaring that the offensive line
is a disaster.

Speaker 7 (01:51:19):
CJ.

Speaker 16 (01:51:20):
Stroud is running for his life. Okay, now you touched
upon my concern just a moment ago. I watched CJ
get off the ground and he's getting slower and slower
and slower. He's getting banged up. He's frustrated. Is he
going to make the season. Do we need to send

(01:51:41):
him out for a game? If he does make the season,
he's going to be so banged up and burn out.
If we make the playoffs, and that's a big if
that he's not going to be effective.

Speaker 4 (01:51:53):
So I think this year, you know, we might make
the playoffs, but we're not going to get far with
this offensive line. That's my thoughts. Appreciated, Conrad James, I
can tell you this one is that it would take
a historic flaw I mean maybe not historic, but this
is not a good division right now. Tennessee is not

(01:52:14):
very good. The Indianapolis Colts are up, and I mean
they'll be better with Flack a watch. Minnesota Vikings are
gonna have a tougher test with Flaco than with Anthony
Richardson because of his He's he'll keep you out of
bad plays and and he'll he'll be more accurate with
one eye open than Richardson's been. And then finally the
Jacksonville we still try to figure out who they are.

(01:52:36):
So the I mean, they play good football, and I
know the schedule is tough. This team should make the
playoffs at six and three. If I told you there
were six and three at the nine games, regardless of
how they got there, you'd say, oh, we've got a
playoff team. That being said, they're they're aiming higher for that.
They play like this, the playoffensive line like this. The
defense will keep in games. They will they'll be eliminated quickly.

(01:52:58):
But we're not even anywhere near that yet. And one
thing I could tell you this, Conrad James, I never
set in my quarterback out just because he's getting hit.
If he's hurt, that's one thing. He may not last
if he keeps taking these hits, and it is getting
a little tougher to get up with the eight sacks
and a bunch of pressures. But I can tell you this,
you don't play. I don't rest a guy that would
the NBA, he don't get we don't. I don't allow

(01:53:18):
my guys that are healthy. You know, you don't get
load management as a quarterback in this league. Well, he's
playing if he can play.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
The only chance you do is if you're in Week
eighteen and your playoff seating is set, there's nothing else,
no doubt, then maybe you can talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
Him now right. You do that for anybody, even if
you played him in two series and sit him down.
But that's fine, but not now. The line every game
if he's healthy, the line about you know, getting banged up.
I mean, did you hear what Kirk curve Street said
last night of talking with CJ and asking him, hey,
how are you feeling? Not very good? No, he said
that CJ straight up told him I'm a little banged up.
So I mean he's a lot banged up today after

(01:53:53):
the last night. Yes, there's no doubt, and it does. Listen,
he as a player, you're gonna be banged up all season.
The games come so quickly, you're gonna be That's why
I always say there's a difference in hurt and injured. Injured,
you miss hurt, you got to play through it sometimes,
and he's going to be banged up and bruised the
rest of the season. Again, it simply comes down to
at what point time have you had enough? If you're
the offensive line in pass pro, at what point in

(01:54:16):
time when you do finally look at each other and
instead of a coach happened to say it or the
general manager or people talking about it on media like us,
And I know they know, and they're good. Listen. I'm
sure they're all good dudes, and they want to win
all that thing, but preparing and doing the extra stuff
to get you ready because some of its elementary protection.

Speaker 8 (01:54:36):
It just is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
And the guys like Quinn last night, he just he
proved he was just better. He was just better than
Kenny Green. He just was and whoever was over him
last night. And it's a five guys, it's not just one.
But at what point time do you say enough enough?
How many times you're gonna get hit in the face
before you finally hit back. Well, it's also too.

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
I mean we hear it a lot in baseball of
the clubhouse meeting, the closed door and wi through those
we got overrated.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:55:02):
Next time the media is in there, offensive lineman not
in there, and I think, if nothing else, somebody just
needs to mention, Yeah, the offensive line is meeting right now, guys.
And then they come out and that's hey, what do
you guys know? You mean for the optics and a
message souse there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:55:15):
Yeah, and they got to soak in those optics and
not just do it for the visual, but to do
it for the heart and soul of the football team.
Because I can tell you this, thank goodness for good
defensive play and Stroud doing it with because of the
injuries and the way the offensive lines protected the quarterback.
This is a soft six and three. You must know this.

(01:55:36):
They've got beat by two playoff teams, and the Vikings
and the Jets, I mean the Vikings and the Packers,
two really good teams. Packers arising they're one of three
or four best teams, if not top three in the NFC.
They got beat by a team that was by many
predicted to win the division in the AFCs this year,
and then they beat the team that's leading by three

(01:55:57):
games right now, Buffalo, by the way they played, so
they haven't. I mean this is a when I say soft,
not that their teams. So this is a eh, six
and three, Yet there's still six and three.

Speaker 6 (01:56:08):
There was a noted mentalist who sadly a couple of
years ago, had passed away from cancer that I think
Demiko Ryans.

Speaker 4 (01:56:14):
I've heard him use some of his teaching. His name's
Trevor Mawatt.

Speaker 6 (01:56:17):
He had worked with Nick Saban, he had worked with
Russell Wilson, numerous people all throughout football. Jimbo Fisher is
a sports psychologist, yes, okay, yeah, and he's written a
couple of books and one of his books was called
it takes what it takes. And you've heard coaches and
I think even Dimiko has used that line. But the
point is is good enough is not good enough? I mean,

(01:56:37):
it's it's what you've done so far to this point.
There's not anybody that's in this building coming out today
and saying, hey we're six and three. Things are fine. No,
there's guy's coming out of building. Agency we're six and three,
fortunate we should be eight and one right now. If
if you handled the business the way it was supposed
to be handled, then you're probably outside of Minnesota talking
about a team that should have won those other two games.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
There's no question about it. And that's and that when
they haven't played their best, they've been able to win,
which is a sign of a good team. Issues. There's
the right that's it. They've put a band aid on it,
and that band aid's now it's stitches and it needs repaired.
It's not just putting a band aid on your hand
because you cut it. It's I need fifteen stitches in
my hand because it cuts deeper and if I don't,
it's going to get infected. That's exactly what you need

(01:57:21):
to do. And with that, as Saban, as you mentioned Saban,
another thing Saban's always said, Oh, the guy who's the backup.
This was transfer before transfer port Law the guy back
up and complaining that he's not playing. And you know what,
Saban's simple questions to them is what are you doing then?
What kind of value you bring to the team. Now
it's the same in business, what do you what value

(01:57:42):
do you bring regardless of how you feel about your
education and you got three degrees, or you were a
hero into high school or a great college player or whatever.
I don't care if it's sales or anything. What value
bringing And that value could be great leader, difference maker,
a great brings in revenue. Whatever it is, Sure what
value you bringing? So I'll ask you right now in

(01:58:04):
pass protection, is there value problems? What value you're bringing
to the offensive line or this team in certain situations?
And those are something that has to be visited. And
so you're bringing some value but not as much as
you need to. Then we may have to think about
a guy who's going to bring more value, and if
he doesn't, we'll look for somebody else there too. Can't
make knee jerk decisions. But we are nine games in

(01:58:25):
the trend is here. They don't pass protect well.

Speaker 6 (01:58:27):
Well, the adjustments, the adjustments have to be made otherwise
there are more losses that come.

Speaker 4 (01:58:31):
I mean, that's that's as clearsight on Sunday night football.
And I'm going to tell you one little thing. As
good as this defense is, there is no better. And
I'm telling you in it and no better. And I
stand firmly on that remove Andy Reid as a head
coach play caller. There is no better more aggressive play
caller in this league than the guy you're facing next

(01:58:52):
week in Ben Johnson for the Detroit Lions. And on
the defensive side in the original Texan Aaron Glint, who
gets after it and they will, and the head coach
validates them and lets them cut it loose. If they
score forty, they're trying to score fifty five. I'm just
telling you. And they cut they got and they are
they are relentless, respectfully. But Dan Campbell is fourth and
two and you're at your own in they're at their

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own forty eight, and he feels that they're they're rolling.
Expect to stay on the field defense because they are
going to attack. This is your toughest I'm talking about
Green Bay, Minnesota Buffalo by far, your toughest offensive test.
And you know what you use night then you bite
their damn knee cap. That's what you do. Thank you, Danny.
That's OK. And it's worked for them as absolutely maybe

(01:59:35):
a little Biten's what we need around here. Yeah, offense,
this team's good. It's not a time to panic, but
you should be concerned because the trend isn't two games.
It's a nine game trend. Protecting the quarterbacks. It's a
gut check. That's good time. That's what it is. It's
a gut check. Adrian, I see you're right there. Get
to you.

Speaker 6 (01:59:52):
If you want to join Adrian there on the phone lines,
you can do so seven one three two one two
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the hour next right here, Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Let the celebration start.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
War Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:00:24):
For a couple of really good buddies of mine. Sean,
I'm gonna go ahead and throw it up. Get paying
respect to the U. Paying respect to the U. The
U's playing good football. By the way, to Clemson U
matchups coming. That's gonna be fun.

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
Wait and then, you know, I saw the comments from
Mario Christobal after they just absolutely obliterated Florida State last week,
and he talked about, you know, everybody wants to talk
about a great program they have, what a great program
they have in Gainesville. I think we just proved the
best program in the state. And he almost did, like
almost like a gabble on the podium right there and

(02:01:04):
walked off.

Speaker 4 (02:01:04):
Well, he ain't lying this year, mar Mario will let
you know. And he's a good offensive line guy that
this would be driving him crazy this past protection here.
He'd be dying now, he'd be dying right now with
the way that this team has played. So and he's
another guy too.

Speaker 6 (02:01:19):
I mean, you know we talk about all the time,
the Saban reclamation projects that you know, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian.

Speaker 4 (02:01:27):
Mario's another guy that you know.

Speaker 6 (02:01:29):
He went to coach and tight ends yep, absolutely and
now doing great things at University of Miami.

Speaker 4 (02:01:37):
So the canes and it takes a lot. We got
a lot of canes around here. When Mario went to Oregon,
you think, man, that program, with all that money and
all I mean and then and I all of it,
why would why would he leave? Well, you know, Miami's
alma mater, and everybody left to go back and do that.
And you bring uh which used to be Coral Gables
but used to Mario bringing that, Michael Irvin, ray Lewis,

(02:02:00):
that group and Bernie Kozar and all the great ones
back towards and that that's a blue blood history when
we say blue blood. But since you've been alive, Miami.

Speaker 6 (02:02:09):
Had always been a dominant Oh absolutely, I mean, you know,
obviously it was the you know, ending stages of the
eighties or you know, Schnellenberger and then Jimmy, I mean,
you know, but obviously you know, the early two thousands.
I mean, I still remember whyde left like it was yesterday,
that game against Florida State at the old Orange Bowl
and I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
A facility that was old and rickety and stuff. What
a historic facility. It's the old sul and Orange Bowls game.
It's the old saying in sports, it's a bleephole, but
at least it's ours. And that's the way that Miami love.
Yeah awesome, man, awesome. And that was when they were
all at their best.

Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
Oh yeah now, and it's and it's also too Adrian
gets you here in just second. But I mean it
was a time that if you were from South Florida.
Remember they talked about it in the thirty for thirty
they called it the state of Miami, that it went
from Tampa over to Orlando, everything down south, we were
getting you. You weren't going anywhere else. You were coming
to play at University of Miami and then all of
a sudden, there around it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
Brother, Yeah there was.

Speaker 6 (02:03:07):
There was a guy named Nick Saban who said, Hey,
Tuscal Loose looks pretty nice. Then there was you know
at the time when he was at LSU or even
less miles, Hey this place looks pretty nice. I mean,
Dabbo has been doing it. Kirby Smart a lot of coach.
Those good recruiters are what make if you. Nick Sable
always say we had a great coach, but he's a
great recruiter. You get order, You've got to get people,

(02:03:29):
and Nick Saban knew how to get people, and the
great recruiters do. And then we obviously one of the
great things College Game Day does is put him on
the board breaking down places.

Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:03:37):
Well, I mean we know good high school football in
these parts, but no doubt they know good high school
football there in Florida as well. Adrian wants to weigh
in here on Sports Talk seven nine. He appreciate your patience, buddy.

Speaker 4 (02:03:46):
How you doing right?

Speaker 8 (02:03:48):
Yo?

Speaker 7 (02:03:50):
Yoh, I am not doing well.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
Sean I called you yesterday and.

Speaker 19 (02:03:58):
Bobby Boe was gonna be with a million dollar arm
and a shotgun that can't picked himself up yesterday more
than a Zoeight picks up their panties on capa weekend.
That is ridiculous. Bro, we have all this money tied
up in this offensive line. Kids already got happy feet.

(02:04:21):
We know what comes after that, Sean, you should know
you've seen plenty of qbs do it. We start seeing
ghosts and then we turn into either David Carr or
Matt shopp.

Speaker 7 (02:04:33):
Too good and too great this early.

Speaker 19 (02:04:37):
So the person that should be worried about his phone
ringing in twelve days or during his twelve days is
probably the offensive line coach. So somebody needs to have
a meeting somewhere, because I know Jamiico Rimes has ran.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
Into his first real problem.

Speaker 19 (02:04:55):
How to tell his players that he's costing his team
ballgames And it's the five guys that matter the most.

Speaker 2 (02:05:04):
And what did we pay our tight end for for
three years?

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
He barely gets the ball.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
And we know it's not for blocking.

Speaker 19 (02:05:11):
Obviously there's problems, and now they're starting to show themselves.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
I'm like John, I am pissed off this morning.

Speaker 19 (02:05:22):
Now I'm gonna put my money on Aggie's and see
if I can double it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:28):
Fellas, have a good week nd the rest of y'all.

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
Hey, there it is Listen, you know it's it's hard.
You'll get to your six and three. Everything should be fine.
But the great coaches, which I believe Dmiko Ryans is
a bilability to be. I think he started on the
trend to be a really really good head coach.

Speaker 5 (02:05:51):
I do.

Speaker 4 (02:05:52):
I think he gets it from a player standpoint. I
think he gets it from a relate to players without
them getting too comfortable with you as your But it's
genuine leaders there's no doubt. And to me, there's a
lot of things and I've to sed it before. Motivation's temporary,
leadership's permanent, okay. And with this that the hard and
and Adrian hit a good This is it's hard right

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now because you're winning six and three. You don't want
to over you don't want to overstate it to the
team and make them right. And so do they, so
do the players. But at times like this, when you're
now if you were three and six, it's hard to go.
I mean, because when you're browbeating guys, when you're getting
your ass kicked on as a full team, imagine walking
into Carolina right now, how difficult it is every single day.

(02:06:36):
I know they get paid a lot of money, but
it's still difficult to maximize what you want to do
from the room. You're six and three. This is the
time you got to coach hard You got to evaluate harder,
and you have to and and you can't. You got
to get out of I'm not saying he's in it.
Some make the mistake of being in the feelings business.
You can't be well, what's the lampe when it comes
to personnel on your football team?

Speaker 6 (02:06:56):
What's the what's the line that Steven Vote used And
I'm probably gonna butcher it, but it was leave the event,
but take the lesson.

Speaker 4 (02:07:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:07:04):
So I mean that's that's pretty much what you're running
into right now, is you you need to learn from
what got you to this point, but also too not
necessarily dwell on it because it's gone. There's nothing you
can do about it now.

Speaker 4 (02:07:16):
And easy to say, oh, I mean it's for us
just to say six and three, everything's going to be okay.
Because it's trending the wrong way. You've been fortunate. You've
want to cut some close games because your quarterback and
you're running back and the defense has been. Listen, there's
not a lot to dislike about the defense, although I
guarantee you he's still coaching them hard to get even
more out of it, probably even harder. Right and you're

(02:07:38):
six and three. Yeah, if you're a defensive backfield coach
for Nick Saban, miserable because that's where he cut his teeth,
and you better be the big The defensive backfield coach
with Nick Saban is the most difficult job in college football.
When Knicks coaching college football, and when you're going good,
you can coach harder. It's when you're getting your askicks.
So right now that rock and a hard places or

(02:07:59):
get our ass kick? Do you browbeat him? They can
watch the tape and know that they're just that they're
just getting manhandled. And the other side of it is
you say, okay, but I still got to be firm
enough to let him know. And sometimes the threat and
not a threat or an ultimatum, but just understanding in
the building that if you don't play well anymore, that
your lifetime achievement war doesn't exist, you will get replaced.

Speaker 6 (02:08:21):
It's the line of buddy of mine, once delivered to
somebody else that we worked with he said, you can
either do it the right way or you can do
it the way that you're doing it. And I mean,
and some people might say, oh man, that's right, and
it may be coaching it.

Speaker 4 (02:08:32):
I don't know. What's what we don't know is what's
going on in the midte is the true in the
practice field. And that's just it. I mean, it's the truth.

Speaker 6 (02:08:37):
And you know, we could do all the cliches, all
of the you know, you're either coaching it or allowing
it to happen. And I mean some of it is true,
but it is also too. The factor of the matter
is you're six and three, but you're also six and
three with a lot of mistakes that have gotten you
at least a couple of those.

Speaker 4 (02:08:52):
As good as Nick Casario has been, and he's been
fantastic these last couple he really has with personnel and drafting, Sure,
have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, and I'm
only focusing on Kenyon Green because he's been he's spot
that maybe just maybe that you overdrafted him.

Speaker 6 (02:09:08):
Well, I think that there is also a case and
we can continue this on the other side with Aaron
Wilson to open up to nine o'clock hour. But sometimes
some gms have a blind spot, and that might be
one of his blind spots, but we'll have to pick
that up.

Speaker 4 (02:09:20):
On the other side.

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Speaker 6 (02:10:26):
Usually we have this man join us to preview a game,
but obviously last night Texan's playing. He joins us for
his weekly visits to recap a game. He is Aaron Wilson. Yeah,
Aaron Wilson, KPRC channel too.

Speaker 4 (02:10:39):
You get all the great stuff there as well as
at Aaron Wilson on Twitter and right here at Sports
seven ninety dot com. I'm sure just got off that
flight and long trip back when when it turns out
like it did, let's let's let's get to the elephant
in the room. Aaron welcome In has always does such
a great job covering the Texans and NFL for us,
the elephant the room. Can they continue to play with

(02:11:03):
the guys they're running out there at offensive line and
be successful.

Speaker 7 (02:11:08):
Well?

Speaker 5 (02:11:09):
Yes and no, yes in the sense that they run
the ball well and they may have to change their philosophy.
Can they run this offense strong this much? I mean CG.
Straut is not indestructible. Last time I checked. He doesn't
have an s under his uniform. He's not Superman. And

(02:11:30):
you know he's hit eleven times, he's sacked eight times.
I know one of the sacks he's just chased out
of the bounce. But nonetheless, it's changing, not just you know,
him being tackled and things like that, it's changing him
missing open guys. And he's not perfect because when you're
hit this much, should you play quarterback at a high level?

(02:11:50):
You know, if you're always knowing you're going to be hit,
changes everything. You don't have that confidence to just stay
in the pocket because what do.

Speaker 4 (02:11:57):
You expects out? Yeah, absolutely, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (02:12:02):
Yeah, And so it's affecting timing. It's not just and
like he said last night, and he's so good, so
smart about these things, and he said, you know, I
can get the ball faster. He always takes accountability. But
he also said just having Nico Collins back for the
next game, that it's not enough. It's not just about
the personnel. They've got to have time. They've got to

(02:12:22):
fix this and if they don't, you know, I hate
he use the word crisis, but I think that it
applies here. Sean. It's very bad. Did they need a
new offensive line coach? You know, Chris Strausser, you can
possibly you you look internal. You know, Nicole Popovitch was
given a new deal to come back. He was very
highly regarded with the Patriots. He then, because it is

(02:12:45):
if have acting stance, was like go by the Patriots
once to try university, come here. They think pretty highly
of him. He got a significant raise to come back.
Maybe you look internal. I don't know, Maybe he's part
of the problem. You wouldn't know until you change. I
don't know what you can do. You can't ben some
of these guys. I mean, basically, Laramie Kunssel is the
only real made man as far as pass blocking, and

(02:13:07):
the other guys they have their struggles. So I don't
know what you can do about it because there's very little.
I mean, you saw when Kenyon Green, unfortunately, he just
located his shoulder, and I thought it was deplorable that
some fans were happy about that on social I saw
some of those remarks, but that's that's people. But that said,

(02:13:29):
Kendrick Green is like and he said, I'm rusty. You know,
I did my best, he said, him up a sack.
You know, he had a couple of good plays. Maybe
with some coaching, you can get him at a better
level than Kenyon, but that's not going to get you
anywhere in the playoffs. They just look like a team
to me that once they get into postseason, it's gonna
quick exit because how are they going to block?

Speaker 4 (02:13:49):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:13:49):
But every long season, like Laramie Tunscl said, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:13:52):
Everybody you play in the postseason is good too. You're
not You're not getting you're not getting a team that
you're supposed to dominate. And Aaron Wilson joins us, as
he does everyone this week a post game talking about
the game last night with the Jets, Aaron, I've found
the hardest thing to do during a football season is
turn an offensive make them great. When they're nine games in.

(02:14:13):
You know what I'm saying, You got to make shift.
It's hard to correct. You can correct plays and a
little step here and how you're teaching it and all that,
but to have a complete overhaul during the season near impossible.
So that leads me to this. And you mentioned a
change does this team? Is there any buzz at all?
Did a change could be eminent, whether it's a starter

(02:14:36):
or a coach.

Speaker 5 (02:14:39):
There's no one on the bench that you could, with
the sound logical argument say you should replace this person.
Right Blake Fisher when he has played played fine, but
there's nothing saying, oh, well, this will fix it. They
have one move they haven't done, and I don't think
they want to. I don't think he's played that badly
at right tackle to shift tight a power to left

(02:15:01):
guard just because you think Blake Pitchers said just talent.
I think Blake's a good developmental linement for the future,
but he needs to get stronger.

Speaker 4 (02:15:09):
I don't know that that would be better.

Speaker 5 (02:15:11):
And you know, you can talk about Jared Patterson and
you're played Okay. I don't think he's fundlingly sound. He's
concussed right now, but I don't know that that changes it.
I think you could just try to get Kindrick going.
The main thing is you have to coach them better,
and they've got to be coachable. And it's a big
problem by the way uh Anika Ryan's the money get fined.

(02:15:33):
But that bad call on the when they flagged Derek
Stingley Junior, they still could have won this game and
then they still be you know.

Speaker 4 (02:15:44):
That was not they missed that.

Speaker 5 (02:15:46):
Yeah, kind of an opinion up hockey because I've covered
some of hockey's games now. I think Hockley thinks it's
about him. I think he's a lot like his dad,
so I think his dad was no better in referee
as far as the technical understanding of the game. But
I just think hockey is bad. He must take every
memo they send him in New York and just do that.

(02:16:07):
It also felt like are they trying to create a
moment because I don't think the guy scored, and I
really I still think that he was out on the touchdown.

Speaker 9 (02:16:17):
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (02:16:17):
I don't think it was.

Speaker 4 (02:16:18):
I thought that, yeah, And what would the call in
the field? Was an incompletion? Correct?

Speaker 5 (02:16:25):
That the right call?

Speaker 4 (02:16:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:16:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:16:26):
But I can tell from my vantage point just looking
at it as that you know, I'm not getting I'm
not anybody's payroll there is. Miley had one question and
I said this early in the show, is when you
go to the side. Now you catch a ball and
you go left foot in, heel in, but the right
toe hits the white while the heel is on the

(02:16:47):
ground in one fell motion. That is an incomplete pass.
So my question was, okay, so what is the difference
in had one foot in and then went down in
the shin hit and then the knee right after went
into the white. So is the shin and the knee
different than the white because if we're just saying if
the shin hits and doesn't matter what the knee does

(02:17:09):
after the shin in one fell motion, not with Breton,
not where there's a shift in it, but one fell motion,
his his his shin was down before before then his
knee hit the white, So however, they're the rule. But
the shin did get down before his knee hit the white,
so if that's the rule, it would have been a catch,
and I would have said the same thing, right.

Speaker 5 (02:17:31):
I think they got to explain it better.

Speaker 4 (02:17:33):
There were great.

Speaker 5 (02:17:36):
From last night, but that said too, they have other
issues on their side of the football. You don't watch
Jalen Teacher on DeVante Adam.

Speaker 4 (02:17:43):
That was the biggest mismatch in the game. I'm so
glad you said that.

Speaker 5 (02:17:49):
How does that happen? How do they get lined up
that way? Jalen is the guy that so look, I'm
a little linebacker post on the scrimmage, you know, short
area coverage, zone stuff, blitzes. Let him do what he
does well. I just didn't see that as a good
use of how they deployed their personnel. And to me,

(02:18:12):
they still need another corner O. Kuda's coming back soon,
But I don't know what they can do because normally,
you know the way he does it, they play all
the corners all the time, and they've got too good
starting outside corners. But could they add a Kuda to
the mix. That's something else to consider. Once he starts practicing,
and that'll happen at some point. But yeah, I mean,

(02:18:33):
that's a lot of positives to take away from this.
Other than Joe Mixon, who's I mean, where would they be?

Speaker 4 (02:18:38):
He's the most valuable player. He's the most valuable player
on the offense. And it's without question in my mind.
Aaron Wilson joins for a couple more minutes. Aaron, we
talked about combating pass protection. Okay, you know turnback protection
where we're the play action, we chip a guy back,
we we we bring it two tight ends in and
we max protect if necessary, you know, bring a guy

(02:19:00):
into the slot and heat chips on the way out
to the flat on a late delay, whatever it is.
But there's also a coordinator situation where the quick game,
they know, they love vertical passing game, and they made
a lot of off schedulesut made some off schedule plays
last night. Why are we Why has the quick game
become so limited? Right now?

Speaker 5 (02:19:20):
I don't have to answer that question. Why they would
not do that? And they only completed pass to three
different targets and those are Dalton Schultz, Tank Dale, who
played very well. Tank stepped up as the wide receiver. One,
he did enough. He was actually more a big play
guy than Diggs was, and that was that was refreshing

(02:19:42):
to see. But they should be throwing slants. They should
be going through the vis completions. Dalton Schultz will catch
a lot of if you've give him chances and enough chances.
I think the same could be said Robert Woods. Robert
Woods is reliable, yep, right on, and a guy that
just a classy pro blocks give it chances. I mean,

(02:20:06):
there's nothing wrong with just taking the eight to ten
yards and doing it several times. If that's how you
have to get down the field, that's how you get down.

Speaker 4 (02:20:14):
So well, yeah, make a simple play, yes, but.

Speaker 5 (02:20:18):
When you have Nico, yes you can strike the other team.
But this right now, this scaled down group, that's what
it should have been. It should have been those guys emphasized,
and you know, where's the play action because they have
to respect play action fakes with Joe Mixon.

Speaker 4 (02:20:37):
Yeah, that's the odd thing Aaron with with Mixing as
good as he is and Stroud as good as he
was last year and as good as he is now,
that that's that should off that that should slow down
the pass rush for you. How how the running games
better and pass protections were set. That doesn't usually work
that way. You run it well, guys are on skates
and the protection's easier. It's easier when you can run

(02:20:59):
it well, y did.

Speaker 5 (02:21:01):
Yeah, I mean throw it to Joe. Just give it
to Joe in a variety of ways. Shoe is that
kind of weapon. He loves to catch the football. He's joys,
he's got great hands. I mean, the guy. There's nothing
really the Joe can't do.

Speaker 4 (02:21:16):
Joel block too.

Speaker 5 (02:21:16):
I mean there's a lot of things Joke can do.
It's just offense right now. And you know, Bobby Slowan's
kind of I think, kind of take a while, Carl,
look in the mirror, figure things out, smile and just
be very honest, uh, very accountable he was last week.
But the wildcat play, I mean, yeah, Brian said it right,

(02:21:37):
when it works.

Speaker 2 (02:21:38):
You're a hero.

Speaker 5 (02:21:39):
And it doesn't. Yeah, everybody's like, oh, that was stupid.
It's just got to be a better call than that,
and he wasn't. I just think it's cool, you know,
having him line.

Speaker 4 (02:21:49):
Up there, mix in the game right and strouded quarterback
and get mixing involved another way, than putting the ball
in his hand that way. I would I just I
think he gets too cute to times.

Speaker 5 (02:22:02):
Don't take the c you run it then like kind
of like right away the pump, you freeze the defense,
and then you do your Joe Mixon thing. It's the
same thing as the handoffs. You got the ball. I
wouldn't mind seeing stuff like that. If you occasionally want
to snap it direct, snap it to them things like that,
that's fine. But you know, they lack a dominant lead blocker.
That's another part of this offense that's missing. And they

(02:22:24):
don't grow on trees anymore. It's just it's hard to
find guys like that. And they've actually got tired of
Andrew Beck's injuries and moved on from Andrew and Andrews
no longer with the Packers. But I don't think that
there's really an answer. It's just going to use the
person that you have, and you've got to be very,
very very smart about avoiding errors and playing high position football.

(02:22:49):
But you know, there's a lot of things.

Speaker 7 (02:22:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:22:52):
Firing Strauscher's enough. I don't think that necessarily does it.
I mean, these players, they make the same mistakes when
you say the quote, that's them layering me about they
do the same thing. They do this every week. They
run overloads, they run twist. This team didn't really need
to run stunts. And they're just talented. I mean, that's
one of thing the Jets have as a defense. And
I say this for Las Vegas. They talk about the

(02:23:13):
smart money, Well they're picking them one and a half
point favorite, and they were right.

Speaker 4 (02:23:19):
Yes, I picked I picked the Jets yesterday too. Until
the protection gets better, the Jets by four. I had
the Jets win by four.

Speaker 5 (02:23:29):
I thought that the Texans would win. I thought they
took care of business. I was dead wrong. Well, and
this is the only game that they lost that I
was wrong about. I picked the Minnesota in Green Bay
at this time, I thought it's the Jets. I just
didn't respect the Jets enough.

Speaker 4 (02:23:42):
So that's on me. And the schedules is a little
bit favorable for the Jets if they can get on
a roll, and Aaron, we appreciate it. And I got
news for everybody. Ain't gonna get it. Ain't gonna get
easier next Sunday night against uh, you know, in ten
days against the Detroit Lions, that's the best team in
the NFC. So I'll look forward to talking to you
next week. Brother, Thank you, I appreciate it. That's Aaron Wilson.
One thing going away. I would have used a time

(02:24:04):
out in that situation of the game when you had
DeVante Adams line up on Petrie. That's a when a
safety's covering a You saw what DeVante Adams did on
the fourth and five to Lasseter slot man all the way.
That's as big a mismatch as you'll get in football.

(02:24:26):
You can't. You cannot allow a safety to cover one
of the best perimeter receivers in the league. You just can't.
And if you go to see it, call time out,
grab him, clutch, do something that was That was shooting
fish in a barrel.

Speaker 7 (02:24:37):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (02:24:37):
The second Aaron saw it, he was going one place
with the football. DeVante Adams on a slot fade, big box,
fade for the touchdown and make that guy chase. He
didn't even get his hands on him. I had no shot.
And he's a great player around the line, scrimmage and
hitting people and a ball hawk in coverage. That is
that if you beg for what they got. And Aaron Rodgers,

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he was not throwing the ball to one other player
on the field last night Petrie against DeVante Adams. That's
a mismatch made for the offensive unit. And he said,
pressure be damned, I don't care. Yeah, that's probably gonna
be one where Demiko Rans is doing the sprint down
the sidelines, doing the time out right in front of
the line judge right there, a Sentry just admit the
WII and say give me a timeout. I can't cover

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this dude. And no disrespect to him, it's just a fact. Yeah,
there's no safety help when you are the guy. All right,
So we're way over. We'll continue the conversation next.

Speaker 6 (02:25:27):
A couple of good points that Aaron brought up about
Bobby Slok will continue on the other side.

Speaker 4 (02:25:31):
Right here, Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (02:25:35):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (02:25:46):
There's a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (02:25:47):
Driving around right now, six ' ten North Freeway anywhere,
and Sean, their guns are up.

Speaker 4 (02:25:57):
I know this one once had a pirate on campus.
I'm assuming guns up is in Love the West. That's it,
that's it, you know what.

Speaker 6 (02:26:05):
Yep, they've got They've got a pretty proud alum that's
in the league right now.

Speaker 4 (02:26:11):
Pretty proud alum in the league from Texas Tech. That's
gotta be am I missing somebody, blaytant Who am I missing? Yeah?
More than one? Who is I mean Billy Joe Tolliver. Oh, Red,
that's a good guy. Heck yeah, Billy Joe's my dog man.
I think he actually was a Texas Tech guy. Yeah

(02:26:34):
it was Billy Joe was Texas Tech. I think I
think you were knowing about ninety five as a pitcher.
More too, could ramp it up there. One of my
favorite dudes, one of the best dudes on the planet
is Billy Joe Tolliver. I feel like, if your name's
we call him Red solid ball striker and golf too.

Speaker 6 (02:26:50):
Okay, yeah, you quarterbacks, You quarterbacks, kickers and punters always
really good at golf.

Speaker 4 (02:26:55):
Yeah, because nobody's hitting us during practice, so that's a
good thing. And thereout apologizing for it either.

Speaker 12 (02:27:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:27:00):
My guy, Billy Joe, though, man, Red's one of the
we need to get him on. He'll talk quarterback playing
and he'll do it with a little little country twang
and look possess. Billy Red's one of the good people
of all time. I love him.

Speaker 6 (02:27:11):
But of course you know, we don't want to insult
the intelligence of the audience. Of course, we're talking about
one Patricio Mahomes the second.

Speaker 4 (02:27:18):
Oh yeah, pat Yeah. Well when you say proud of love, like,
oh yeah, you mean the best player in the league,
the MVP who's got back to back supers.

Speaker 6 (02:27:28):
Yeah, that guy. Yeah, he's pretty good. Now he's not
bad to say, he's not not bad whatsoever. So well,
Texas Tech. Love for you Red Raiders out there this
morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show again, Dan Matthews
in for Sean or you're here, I'm here.

Speaker 16 (02:27:44):
I did it.

Speaker 4 (02:27:44):
I did it. I don't take day I don't I
don't take you know you post post. I don't take
even on vacation. I'm still working. You know what I'm saying.
Just did no pad on the back. But I listen, man,
I'm the no days off guy. That's it.

Speaker 6 (02:27:58):
Yeah, Bill Belichick will be proud. I'm in for Brian
Alima is what I meant to say. He's Sean Sawisberry
triple E. Emmanuel Elmore. Hey, look, you know made it
three and a half hours, trying to be able to
push through to the end. Like I said, the fourth
quarter is when teams are at their best. But now
before we get to Brandon, Jeff Larry, I see you
guys right there. We'll get to you all here before

(02:28:20):
we wrap up business here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Bobby Slowick, I mean, you know, you talk about a
guy who last year was in a rocking chair. I
mean he was absolutely just he was slinging it and
feeling it, and I mean it seemed like this guy
could do nothing wrong. But as we usually talk about
with players, Sean, I mean there's people who are wondering,

(02:28:40):
is they're that sophomore slump for you know, for CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:28:44):
Stroud.

Speaker 6 (02:28:45):
I think you're seeing it more than anything with Bobby
right now, where you're seeing a guy who last year
was being proactive and almost thinking two or three steps
ahead of you, and now the league has caught up
to him and he's reacting.

Speaker 4 (02:28:57):
Well I think at times. Yeah, And whether they've caught
up or it looks different this year, doesn't it. And
maybe it's a cumulative effect of what's happened in past
pro or what have you. But and while the numbers
may not be the same, I don't call what he's
doing a sophomore slump mean he's stroud. Yeah, I mean,
I just ask anybody, and I'm not making excuse for him.

(02:29:18):
Last night was not even in a clean pocket. And
maybe it's that cumulative effect. Was he did not throw
the ball with accuracy like he normally does down the field,
but he was running for his life. Every time in
eight secks it will take its toll. And what happens
is then it takes its toll on the quarterback. And
then you know what the receiver starts to do, shorten
their routes. Why because they know there's this built in
time clock, and then whether they do when you shorten

(02:29:39):
your route, the ball ends up over your head because
he's expecting to be at fifteen, not at twelve. And
when you throw to go twelve, then the safety behind
the dig route, it catches the ball in his chest
and you see, you see how that rolled in. It's
a vicious cycle. It happens. And then all of a
sudden you start to trust and then all of a
sudden you drop back and where's your head go instead
of coverage, there's my first read, second read, third read,

(02:30:00):
check down, take off and run. You immediately go. And
it's human. It's normal, your head goes to the pass rush,
drop back, quarterback, bam eyes to the pass rush, which
one of these guys is getting abused right now. He's
not gonna say that because he's the great, great leader
and great protector of his players, as he should be.
They got to give the same in return on the
field physically, so you see the chum of effect. It's

(02:30:20):
not a sophomore slump. Watch him stand and deliver when
things are going good. The guy's phenomenal. So but you
can't make excuses he did not play when there was
no sack or no held the ball a little too
long times and miss some throws that the guy's made
with one eye closed. So that's where we are with that.
But he's a victim of his own success. And I

(02:30:40):
think in this case, the real answer is it's the
circumstance of what's playing into it. I mean, there are injuries,
there is offensive line issues, all of these different types
of things, But in terms of the way that teams
are defending him, I don't see that being the issue.
I think that it's a lot of kind of trying
to carry too much of a workload that frankly, I
don't think anybody can try to be able to be

(02:31:02):
successful doing what he's trying to do right now. So
we'll see if they're able to make the adjustments over
these next ten days. Like I said, Brandon Jeff Larry
get to you all. On the other side, I'm Dan
Matthews in for Brian Alima here on the Shawn Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:31:17):
We're the Shawn Salisbury Show, continued.

Speaker 4 (02:31:44):
Sean w.

Speaker 6 (02:31:44):
And somebody says, oh, h what do you respond? I owe,
that's it, you know what. I'm marrying into a Buckeye family,
so I know it all. Oh yeah, you know, I've
already talked with the future father in law and I
asked him, you know, hey, you know eleven o'clock game tomorrow,
We're going somewhere to watch it. He goes, it's safe

(02:32:04):
if I watch it home.

Speaker 4 (02:32:06):
Oh so he yeah, his emotions, his emotions are tied
deep so much to the points. And Brandon Jeff Larry
gets to you all here in second, Dan Matthews in
for Brian Lee.

Speaker 6 (02:32:16):
It's an eleven o'clock game, it is. Yeah, it's the
Noone Eastern times, so you get the Fox Big noon.

Speaker 4 (02:32:22):
Yes, I love it. Though we're coming right out of
the shooting. I'm making us wait till prime time.

Speaker 6 (02:32:26):
Three, three and four against each other tomorrow. But so
much to the point that one year for Ohio State
Michigan that I mean, he was getting that visibly angry
and audibly angry that the next door neighbor called and
was like, Hey, is everything all right over there?

Speaker 4 (02:32:40):
Yeah, it's the Ohio State Michigan like his style. So
they understood immediate staying out of the bar, staying at
the crib, that's it. You got's it?

Speaker 6 (02:32:47):
Yeah, you make sure you make sure you keep the
emotions in check that way. Brandon, what's up, buddy? You
lead us off here? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (02:32:53):
Buddy?

Speaker 21 (02:32:54):
Good morning, Dad, Good morning Sean.

Speaker 4 (02:32:56):
How are you doing?

Speaker 8 (02:32:57):
Good?

Speaker 4 (02:32:57):
Buddy?

Speaker 9 (02:32:57):
How are you?

Speaker 21 (02:32:59):
I'm doing okay, But the Texans in that land, they
are not.

Speaker 4 (02:33:04):
Buddy.

Speaker 6 (02:33:05):
It was not a good one last night. So, I mean,
just plenty plenty of problems bringing.

Speaker 21 (02:33:14):
He yeah, they we we got doing and they took
it back.

Speaker 4 (02:33:20):
Yeah, I mean it was it was.

Speaker 6 (02:33:22):
Tough, and you know, they were unable to really get
anything going offensively. And now you see the results of
what happens when they're not as good offensively, yep, Sean.

Speaker 21 (02:33:34):
How about the Dodgers the.

Speaker 4 (02:33:36):
Game, big win, man, great comeback, win, resilient. They were
pretty much the best team in baseball all year, so
I understand spend a lot of money on that too.
Don't be surprised, as they tried not to add soda
and add to it. So yeah, big, big win and
the Yankees defense didn't help any for their cause, but
it sure helped the Dodgers. Yeah, congrats to them big time.

Speaker 21 (02:33:57):
How about the Rockets good.

Speaker 6 (02:33:59):
Win last night's that was a lot of fun. I mean,
at least that was a a positive for the night.
But uh, you know, the Texans obviously a huge damper,
but now it's great. See Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks and
Amen Thompson put together that effort at the end. I'll
be on at ten o'clock, buddy, I'll talk to you then.

Speaker 4 (02:34:20):
I know I can count on you.

Speaker 7 (02:34:23):
I see you.

Speaker 4 (02:34:24):
Thanks, Brandon, Yeah, there's uh like we you know, Brandon
just pointed out right there. The Rockets a nice little
effort there. We talked about them a little bit earlier
on in the show. But one O eight, one O
two win three and two on this season. All right,
how's your energy level right now?

Speaker 5 (02:34:39):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (02:34:39):
Energy is always up your your energy. You always bring
the juice. You're always ready to go.

Speaker 6 (02:34:43):
Energy is never a problem. This man always brings the
juice as well. Larry and Stafford. What's up, Buddy?

Speaker 7 (02:34:49):
What's up? Bull Dog?

Speaker 4 (02:34:50):
There you go?

Speaker 8 (02:34:52):
Hey, Hey, hey, Sean, sit back and relax.

Speaker 18 (02:34:56):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:34:57):
Let me do a public service announcement.

Speaker 8 (02:35:00):
If all you dumb ask people that call in the
sports talk radio after the Texas do what they did
up there in New Jersey, don't be calling in talking
about no damn Dodgers and Yankees and what the Rockets did.
When I'm sitting up here fuming from that that that
crap that we watched last night, to Miko Rans and
Nick Saban have this saying, son, don't, don't don't eat

(02:35:22):
the rat poison. Then don't don't don't listen to the
outside noise. They have better start listening because that's a
whole bunch of noise that is about to start happening
for them boys over there on Kirby, Mate, that was
an embarrassment on primetime TV last.

Speaker 7 (02:35:37):
Night with what Buddy Slowick and that offense did over there.
In New Jersey. If I had the opportunity to.

Speaker 8 (02:35:45):
Go to that game, which I did, I stayed my
ass at home because, like your future father in law, Bulldog,
it's safer for the rest of the world for me
not to be anywhere near anybody watching something off.

Speaker 7 (02:35:57):
Lass football like we just watched. Here's what the issue is.

Speaker 8 (02:36:02):
It's not just the fact that we lost Stefan and Nico.
The issue is that Bobby Slowick has no idea what
the hell he's doing, and now he has my quarterback
regressing to a level that's making everybody question whether.

Speaker 7 (02:36:18):
Or not last year was real or not.

Speaker 8 (02:36:21):
Cjay Stroud is not the damn problem and s Day
Stroud is not going through a sophomore slump. What the
problem is This gumass called a half back, quarterback, wide
receiver screen, whatever the hell that was at nine minutes
left in the fourth quarter with the.

Speaker 7 (02:36:39):
Team down by four points.

Speaker 8 (02:36:41):
If you are dumb enough to call for your halfback
to become your quarterback and your quarterback to become a
wide receiver, your ass don't need to be calling players
in the National Football League because you are telling.

Speaker 7 (02:36:55):
Everybody that you don't know what the hell you're doing,
and so.

Speaker 8 (02:36:59):
For us to say it back here and Washington kind
of stuff start manifesting itself. We are witnessing a six
and three football team looking like a two and six
football team instead of what they should be. We came
into this season with expectations through the roof because we
knew that we had a quarterback, we added the right pieces,
and we had the right coaching over there, the Mico Ryans,

(02:37:22):
who I swore.

Speaker 7 (02:37:24):
Son that I was gonna give him as much a honeymoon.

Speaker 8 (02:37:28):
Stage as I possibly could because I loved the Miko.
I love the Miko more than any coach that we've
ever had over there on Kirby. But the Mico Rans
decided in a final part of the game that he
was gonna put Jalen Petrie on one of the best
wide receivers in football.

Speaker 7 (02:37:46):
Davonte Adams, and thought that was one of the smartest
things to do.

Speaker 8 (02:37:51):
I don't know what kind of football you folks like watching,
but when I see dumbass stuff, it rides by pressure
up and I ain't the mistake last night, I'm trying
to watch that game without drinking me any yack. And
that may have been the dumbest thing that I've ever
done in my life, because I've watched this team only
scored six touchdowns in the second half of football games

(02:38:15):
this season. It's a systemic Bobby Slowick problem. And you
can find everybody on the coaching staff over there on
the offensive side of the ball. But you better figure
out real quick why that soft ass offensive line from
lanmy Tonsel to Titus Howard look like they have no
interest in protecting my damn quarterback.

Speaker 7 (02:38:36):
Because if we.

Speaker 8 (02:38:36):
Continue on this path, see de Stid's gonna continue to
look like David Carr and every.

Speaker 7 (02:38:42):
Other mediocre quarterback.

Speaker 8 (02:38:44):
And I am gonna let their ass have it over
there on Kirby, because there's no way in hell that
my quarterback, who is one of the best quarterbacks in
the National Football League should.

Speaker 7 (02:38:54):
Be hit as many times as he's gotten hit.

Speaker 8 (02:38:56):
By a mediocre ass football team like the New York Jets. Son,
I'm pissed, and I got to spend the next ten
days of not watching my team play football.

Speaker 7 (02:39:06):
And my wife is gonna catch hell around his house and.

Speaker 4 (02:39:09):
Appreciate its passion, and he is, and he's right the
hardest thing about it, and I know he's pissed I
could tell don't blame him. He keeps the ball moving
and well and he's spot on about that. This has
got to be addressed and it can't be the feel
good addresses and they're gonna there's a of coaching cleat

(02:39:30):
that needs to be coaching. Shooting to be whooped up
somebody's asses is a fact, and the aggressiveness and it's
inexcusable to protect the lack of protection. It's elementary school
that's going on. Not that I could block the guys.
I'm just talking about the simple protections they're getting hammered on.
It's it's not that it's some of it's not that
tough to pick up, but they're getting walked back in
the quarterback they're whiffing. And I know it's a hard position.

(02:39:52):
Trust me, I've seen Hall of I've played with Hall
of famers and guys that were just trying to hang
on and it's in. It is a tough position. I
love him, but you still have a job to do,
just like you expect your running backs, just like you
expect your strong safety. And a monumental mistake was matching
up listen. Jalen Petrie has zero shot no and I

(02:40:12):
love him as a player. Zero shot in man coverage
against one of the best receivers and route runners in
the league, and especially you don't get your hands on
him to the line, scrimmage ball game over, and that
was a matchup you cannot allow to happen because that's
not his strength. They didn't put their team in strength
positions last night, and when they were in strength positions
they did, the players didn't execute it. I thought there

(02:40:32):
was a lot wrong with last night, and a lot
of it's on the offensive side of the ball. And CJ.
Stroud he's not a pedestrian quarterback and protections making him
look at such and his game will continue to suffer
if this keeps up. There's a saying in the league
be a bleeping pro. That talk's going to be had to.
And remember this, just because you get paid doesn't make

(02:40:54):
you a pro.

Speaker 6 (02:40:56):
Because I mean, it's everything that goes into it that
allows for you to get paid pro and gad and
so like I said it, and it's not just a
one great game knee jerk.

Speaker 4 (02:41:05):
This is the trend is continuing and somebody's got to
put a stop to it.

Speaker 6 (02:41:09):
Well, Dion said it. They pay good you live good,
you live good, you die good. So you want to
be able to make sure you get to those last
two parts.

Speaker 4 (02:41:15):
If you find your ass handed out gatorade to the
guy in front of you, if you don't pick up
the tempo.

Speaker 6 (02:41:19):
Well soon enough. People got to keep their jobs, and
you never know what a man will do when his jobs.

Speaker 4 (02:41:26):
They don't have to keep their jobs, they better want to.
I can tell you that it's not a matter. They
don't have to keep their job. I got news for you.
You leave your glove out on the mound, somebody else
gets hungry and may come out and pick it up.
I don't there's not one sacred cow across that front.
There isn't that there simply is not. Some have bought
a little more time on that sacred cow card, but
there's no sacred cows. And it's not just them. But

(02:41:47):
I can tell you this, Oh they need oh no,
no no. Do they want to keep want to keep it?
And do you have the courage to make the switch
and the change. If you're a coach that says my
team's better, what do we say we do it at quarterback?
Maybe we do it at quarterback. The Indianapolis Colts woke
up with the third pick of this third or fifth
pick of the draft. Where is Anthony richards the fifth,

(02:42:08):
fifth or fourth fourth pick? There you go, and they
literally said, you do not give us the best chance
to win. We're going with a guy who was on
his couch two years ago, went to Cleveland and out
played Watson and his Now he's like Methusela, okay, and
and now he's in. He's the starting quarterback in Indianapolis
and gives you the best chance to win. We made
that move apparently not out afraid of the feelings that

(02:42:31):
then Anthony Richardson's feelings may be hurt. So if you
could do it to your quarterback, guy got news for you.
I wouldn't get too comfortable because you don't have to
earn a living. You better want to earn a living
because the guy behind you wants her to live in too,
and he wants paid more.

Speaker 6 (02:42:45):
Now, I mean there's always people who are coming up
behind you. And not only that, I mean you know, probably.

Speaker 4 (02:42:50):
Is the depth in house good enough that if you
did bench somebody, you're going to get better production. That's
a problem that they may be facing. And that's the
trade deadline. That's a concern that Aaron Wilson brought up earlier.
So we'll see how they fix a Jeff c right there,
Trey as well. Get to all of y'all.

Speaker 6 (02:43:06):
Plus something that happened last night of you were talking
about Sean things that are unsaid, Well, maybe something that
was said that just wasn't true and it was proven
out last night.

Speaker 20 (02:43:14):
We'll talk about it next. Hey, this is Charles Barker.
You guys thought I put on some way since my
playing days. You shall see Sean Solisborough trible. Now back
to the Sean Solersboro show. What a knucklehead?

Speaker 6 (02:43:43):
We know this one fights on Friday. Dan Matthews here
on a Sports Talk seven ninety in for Brian Lima.
He's Sean Salisbury tripley Emmanuel Elmore. Huge college football weekend
ahead for a lot of teams out there. You of
h a blackout tomorrow they're at TDECU Stadium.

Speaker 4 (02:44:01):
Does everybody know that fights all?

Speaker 16 (02:44:03):
You think?

Speaker 4 (02:44:04):
I think so?

Speaker 7 (02:44:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:44:05):
Around these parts they do. They should right now for sure.
So got them going tomorrow. Ut off this week by
the way, too, You know we hadn't gotten in much
college football this week. A and m that's not gonna
be an easy one tomorrow night at South Carolina. I've
told people numerous times WILLIAMS. Brice Stadium might be one
of the most rockets atmospheres in the SEC. It's a

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stadium that's not one of the biggest, but it just
feels like it's on top of you. And then they
start playing de Rude Sandstorm That's how I think you
say his name. But that's when they all start waving
their towels. The shadium steaks shakes because everybody starts jumping
up and down.

Speaker 4 (02:44:42):
I can tell you from from living it. Yeah, all
five points good place, too, funny, Yeah yeah, uh SC
versus SC. We played there, okay, and they played the
best game of their freaking year. I mean I got
hit about eight billion times in the game. That stadium

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was so loud and so, you know, and wanted to
prove who the real US he was, you know us,
trust me, they tried. They tried to do that. Yeah,
I'm telling you that it was as loud. Now I
understand that Tiger Stadium there's a lot of loud ones, right, yeah,
but I'm going to tell you for playing in that game,
the stadium felt like it was swaying. It was so

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raucous and loud, and it was one of the most
imposing as far as you it was relevant, dude, it was.
It was there and tangible and had an effect on
everything you did in the line of scrimmage. And once
it got wrong and they played their ass off. So
you can imagine that in game momentum while it was
going on. I mean, it compared with any stadium that

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I'd played in, and Washington was loud. It's right on
top of you. Yep, it was so I know, I
hear all those and people that haven't been there, I think, oh,
South Carolina, how loud? It can it be that place?
And it's going to be rocking because A and M
playing great football. It could end up being a defensive
struggle too, because I'm going to tell you something now,
that front seven at South Carolina they're no joke. You're
damn right, they aren't. This is a This is a

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don't let the emotion of what happened last week not
only and then don't start thinking ahead too. If you're
A and M. The Texas is coming down the This
is a game that if you let get away from
you could cost you big time. It's winnable, and they're good.
They they Haane's got them playing Biember's got them playing
good football. I'm just telling you that's a difficult place.
If A and M plays their best football, they'll win

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a game. But it is not going to be You're
not gonna waltz in there and kick their ass physically
because they're playing pretty good.

Speaker 6 (02:46:37):
This is a prove it game for A and M,
like you did what you did last week, but it's
also got to be done with that. If you're going
to be a team like they think they are, and
they think that Mike Yoko has made this program into already.

Speaker 4 (02:46:49):
Then you got to do it again. You don't have
letdown games, then you got to do it again exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:46:53):
I mean it's look, there's a saying in the SEC
humility is a week away, and it's tough to win
on the road the SEC. So Aggie's you're up against
it tomorrow, Jeff and down Taln's the weigh in here
on Sports Talk seventy ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:47:05):
Jeff, what's up?

Speaker 9 (02:47:07):
Well, I'll be quick, Sean, what do you think of
Kansas State as U of H have a chance against
A big win and probably be a little beaten down
and the physically against an under the raid a really
good program.

Speaker 16 (02:47:17):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (02:47:18):
Unbelievable schedule. Yeah, Jeff, great point. I love what Willie
Fritz is doing. I still think it's going to take
a minute. Give me Kansas State in the game. I
think Kansas State is real. They got a dynamic quarterback
as well, you know. And I think he's healthy. He's
playing is and he isn't. I'm pretty sure he is.
He can run. I coached him in the All American Game.
I was his coordinator and he I knew something specially
and he's even better than I thought. He is a

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great player. I think uh can hang around. But the
overall physicality, which is what Kansas State's base, is there,
and they run it. He's such a two dimensional player.
There'll be a Heisman guy next year, at least a candidate.
I got it. But I'm telling you what. Hang in there,
Willie Fritz and Jeff. I know will this team can play.
Kansas State's a better football team. Future is bright with

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of h under Willie Fritz. We'll continue it all next
week right here. Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 6 (02:48:04):
Dan Matthews in for Brian Lima he Shaan Salisbury Triple,
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