Texans Lose To Lions, Rockets Beat Pistons, MNF Matchup Miami Vs. Los Angeles, CFB Week 11 Recap

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulisbury, Old Bright Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hot, Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Shawn Salisbury, The USC Truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
I can tell you this, You're not supposed to win.
I'm still reeling.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
I don't know what the other headlines are or across
you know, football, college football will get to. But I
can tell you this the headline of last night and
watching what the Texans defense did and how they dismantled
in the first half Detroit five picks.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I know one was a Hail Mary, but five picks.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
You're not supposed to be up fifteen and take the
ball away five times and still lose in your building.
Hasn't happened since nineteen seventy. And weaknesses showed last night
a lot of strengths. I'm gonna tell you what what
wasn't a weakness for the most part last night was
the offensive line played their best game. They took some

(01:05):
sacks against the good Detroit team. But I and Aaron Glenn,
who's a really good defensive coordinator, but I will tell
you right from the get go, they were challenged and
they stepped up some penalties and I know he got pressured,
but you see what happens when the guy sets his
feet now he also in c. J. Stroud made some
monumental mistakes last night late and a ball that that's
why timing and getting it out and seeing coverage. But

(01:27):
welcome in on a Monday. I'm sure we're gonna empty
the bucket today. When you can't score in the second half,
you can't win. We don't play thirty minute games in
the NFL, So welcome in, tripley. Good to see you, Brian.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Nineteen unanswered points last night, morning, guys, nineteen unanswered Sean
Maher scored a second half touchdown and since week six.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah, I uh, I honestly, and I watched every single
snap of that game last night, and I couldn't sleep,
and I couldn't sleep after, not just because the last
time this one, Yeah, I I watched it, and i'ma
be honest, I will up this morning, you know, even after.
I don't know how you guys slept last night. When
I have a game like that, where keep your adrenaline
going till the end, and.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
That was till the very end.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
I mean, there was sixty full sixty minutes that Detroit played.
May have been a crappy thirty minutes by Detroit, but
they played sixty and all the playing hard.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
People are supposed to play hard. I get all that,
but I can tell you.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
This that staring at the ceiling and rolling around thinking,
and I honestly I get up and go pee in
the middle of the night after you go to sleep,
and it's like, I still don't know how they lost.
I'm serious, you look, I still don't know how they lost.
I mean, Detroit just kept chipping away, chipping and you
saw the run dominance late by Detroit that pushed the

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front set of it that you could see it. And
I understand Nico Collins and will and Anderson. They had
a couple guys hurt too. I mean, it goes all
the where. And they took on mon Ross, Saint Brown,
the whole, out, the whole until the end. What as
Gibbs do those The Gibbs can get to the edge
about as quick as any player in football.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
Man.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
Yeah, and then they turn around and there's dammit, what
am I thinking of Montgomery? Montgomery, David Montgomery. Yeah, I
was baffled about to say Dave Henderson last.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Night, and I promise you this. I'm sitting here now,
honest to god. Truth is I to a word sitting
around last night and I said, hey, they are going
do not be shocked.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
It was halftime.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
They already said it, and I'm Sario got up and
you know, fiddling around, thinking I'm gonna tape it so
I can watch it like I always do, but just
to make sure it's taped. But I said, watch Detroit
come back and win this. I've seen the movie, not
just with the I'm not talking about the Texans. I've
seen the movie with Detroit. How they come out, matter

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of fact against Minnesota a couple weeks so, their first
half was ass and we could say all we want.
We said it about the Texans. Is it a good
team that doesn't play well and finds a way to win?
It is if it's sixty minutes. Look at the Chiefs
again yesterday? Yeah, look at the Chiefs again yesterday?

Speaker 8 (04:05):
Who who?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Who kind of flounder around?

Speaker 5 (04:09):
And that you know the Denver always gives them trouble
it last you know, the last six times they've played me.
Kansas City's not a great spread cover team. If you're
a gambling person. Take the and the Denver Broncos. I
mean they're inside that they hung around. Bow Nicks played well,
but what do they do? They hang around and then
they turn it on at the right time. And I
still don't understand, and I do want to understand. I've

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seen it year in and year out, play in and
play out. Why Travis Kelsey gets a free run at
the line of scrimmage. I tweeted about, yesda, I don't
get it. Yeah, And this wasn't just this year. It
wasn't just before. Hopkins was right, I saw it, but
I do whatever I do it, I said, why it
doesn't matter who the personnel is around you, that guy
does not get a free release. So point isn't leading
into all that is the Kansas City Chiefs find a way,

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the Detroit Lines find away. Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night
found a way. Now we know that Stroud's got that
in him in the end, but this team this year
is lacking this foot on the throat mentality, and I
don't know why. I watched their attitude. Al Shair is
a beast. Petrie was all over the field, played like
a pro bowler, last night. The defense is nasty. Think

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about what they've done to Golf and Allen this year.
They've obliterated them until and then they made him. You know,
they get the coverage was pretty tight where Golf was
yankin balls into the ground even when he won throwing picks,
but phenomenal throws. The throw he threw the Laporte on
the deep over route came out of play action to
those left.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
It was about a.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Thirty seven yard ripshot dark to the left side where
he got down inside the ten or whatever. I'm just
telling you. And Stroud made some throws last night. Metchi,
Welcome to the NFL, buddy. You look like a player
last night. Tank Dell Stroud made some throws last night.
You see what happens when a guy gets to set
his feet and even him after Remember we talked about
the cumulative hits that he'd been taking, and it's I

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mean the hits, it's a cumulative effect on how the
ball comes out, and we said it a minute. I
wish we could draw it up. You saw last night
he himself had to settled his ass down because the
last couple of games he's been a little too anxious.
And leaving running into trouble because I don't blame him
after what the offensive line and causing, you know, running
into trouble and bailing too early when he gets through

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all his progressions and delivers it. You saw the throw
he made on the bank post to Mechi in the
end zone. That's just gold. He made some throws that
his accuracy pushed into all that looked like the guy
we're used to now in the second half, I don't
know why they're afraid to finish. You let it hang
three and out three. And the way the game started

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pissed me off too. They got the ball, two runs,
throw two runs, throw, stuffed on the first two runs. Now,
Mixing just keeps grinding right. And I'm gonna tell you something.
Detroit's defense against the run game last night was damn good.
But Stroud made some plays and they did some great things.
I don't understand sometimes the gimmicks when you're backed up
and you run a reverse and get sometimes I think

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we get a little too cute. I think all coordinators do.
Hel Ben Johnson got a little cute early on. They
say settled back and said we're do we do and
they close it out and in truth, I mean, you
know golf, I mean they make the pick on a
diving interception and both secondaries last night there, even though
there was a lie of some good numbers put up
by Stroud, both these secondaries are really frigging good. Yeah,

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the corners and some of the best safeties on the plant.
Matter of fact, you had about four safeties in the
game last night that are full blown bullocks playing out
of his he's all rookie team. Petree played great. You
see the two safeties for Detroit due there to Branch
is a is a frigging nutting, a nightmare to deal with. Yeah,
he let the lines, Yeah they are just they're all
over the place last night, and the diving interception and

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you know, back to and then what golf do throw
it right back to him? I mean it was it
was one of those games. But I'm sick to my stomachs,
not the word. I'm like, how did this happen? I'll
tell you how it happens. At at twenty three to seven,
did you honestly believe that they were done? Did you
really believe they were done?

Speaker 6 (08:06):
I thought it was just wasn't there night because golf
was he was due for seven Lions. No, I thought,
just from what I've seen from the Lions, I thought
they would be in position late in the game to
at least tie the ballgame. And they just just from
what I've seen from the Lions and the way that
the second half went. And I don't know if this
is one of the things that I want to get

(08:26):
to at some point today. Maybe we could spend a
couple of segments on it, like where does Bobby Sloans
play calling in the second half fall with these losses?
I told you because it's I feel like things are
just way too predictable, And then you look at some
of the play calls on third down and it's.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Like, what in the hell are you calling? Did you
feel like last night or feel like this year? Now
that just this may just be because they lost. If
they're winning, we're talking even if the team comes back
bittersweet when you let a team back into it. But
if we win, we're having different conversation. Because the first
thirty minutes that looked like a team that could run
through the AFC and beat anybody that's exactly defensively offensively
special teams. I mean, this kick return game they're special teams.

(09:03):
Simms was on, fine, Yeah, and they look like a
team that can play with Kansas City ball to any
of them. Second half, they looked like a team that
couldn't play with anybody. And I mean they hung in there.
But I swear to you, I feel like and things were.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Going so well. I mean for the most part in
past protection that's proud of nothing. The run.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
It's odd they decided to pass protect and couldn't move
anybody at the line scrimmage running the ball last night.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
You remember, you remember last week when I asked you
about Jared Patterson. You see who they started at center
last night, Jared Patterson. You see where they moved Juice
Scruggs to the left guard.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Where And the truth is it's crazy to the truth
is this is that's their best go to right now. Yes,
And you know the couple penalties and the one time
Tunsel got didn't even whiffed on.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
A straight pass rush. I mean, you got gat of
your stance.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
Now.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
The problem with that is when you tell him to
get out of his stances, you know what he does?
He jump right, But that just goes Both teams had
got some players now all over injuries or not. Both
teams couldn't win without all their players healthy. But I
will tell you that in the second half, they didn't
look like they belonged. But the offensive line did a
one hell of a job. But it looks to me

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like in the second half, it's like, Okay, we got
this going on, let's let's shorten this game and get out.
And I don't want the pass protection to break down.
It felt like Bobby Slowick in the second half. And
I'm not talking I'm talking about the but it permeates
to the team. It felt like the Lions had a
sense of urgency where they had to play with their
hair on fire, and they did. And it felt like
the Texans offensively not listen. I got no issues with

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them defensively. You kept putting them in a buy. Eventually
they're gonna go score. They're that good. Hell, it's shot.
When you hold that team under thirty, you take a bow.
And so I've almost felt like a pass protection's good,
We've got this our quarterbacks upright, let's just get out
of here. And the problem is when you go a
couple three and outs and the interception that Stroud through

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the games, if he just gets it up on time.
I mean, this guy came from the other part of
the field. But when it was open, if you just
put his fing he could throw off balance and just
throw a little rip shot there, just drop shot in
the corner the edge of the Why he didn't need
to say, just get it out.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
When you start to go there and you see him separated,
just get it up. And he put too much hair
on it was was.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
About three seconds, I mean a couple of a second
and half too late interception and from then on, I mean,
so that and that was strictly on him.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
That ball's got to get it. You got to see
that that was too easy, but it was and so
but he gosh dang, when he can set his feet
and throw it, dude.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Chris Collins were talked about the whole Broadcat much more quiet.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
He was in the pocket right, and there was not
a lot of and not just quiet with his feet,
but the whole everything about him was just bored in
the pocket, which is when I say bored. And he
when he moved, he moved it, kept his head up
and made some dude he is he is so frigging good.
But the couple of mistakes you can make that mistake
against Jacksonville. You can make that mistake hell against the

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Jets at times. You see, Yeah, they were awful and
I would have never thought they'd go. But they're just
not good. They can't they can't keep the say, they
can't keep it up. So and you can do that
against the Cowboys. You can't do it against Detroit. No,
you can't do it against Baltimore. You can't do it
against Cincinnati, even though you can't because Burro. You can't
do it against Mahomes. Hell, you're right now. You can't

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do it against the Chargers. And they bore me with
their Boy, are they not Michigan in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
As soon as that coaching higher, I was like, dude,
they're gonna run and be physical.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
They're gonna bore you to death and win.

Speaker 10 (12:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
So but I just I'm mortified. But that's that's it's overboard.
It's football.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I am baffled, baffled how they let and every time
they just pan over to Demico and he's looking back
up the scoreboard. It's like it's almost like he knew
this thing was headed in the wrong direction. And then
it just I mean, I they're six and four, they're
kind of good at six and four.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Does that make sense that first half team we saw
last night?

Speaker 5 (12:56):
That's why that's why they're kind of good. If you're Detroit,
you're going home and you're watching the tape today, and
you know you're saying, our first half sucked. But if
you're think about the feeling in the locker room, you
dominated the first half. If you're the Texans and could
have beat anybody, well, and you get in the locker room,
go and then at the end of the game, now
you're going to watch tape, you're like, we did some
good things, but man, the wins all that matters. That's

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why I go back to you want pretty wins or
ugly loss I mean, ugly wins are pretty losses?

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Half pretty second half?

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Bug.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
If you're Detroit at halftime, you went in there like,
what in the hell is going on? Stay the course?
How's that?

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Playing flight home? Chats go, they're feeling a lot better
now they've got corrections to make. But now they are
eight and one and feeling good. And think about I
mean they're eight and one, the Texans are six and four,
and the Texans for thirty minutes kick their ass up
and down the field. You know what's never going to
be a problem now here and people are gonna come
is defense. These guys frigging fly around. But when you're

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playing an offense, it's got as many weapons on offense
as you do on defense. And eventually a'man Rossaint Brown
was going to bust out. Yeah, because Ben Johnson's not stupid.
I'm still baffled by the loss this morning.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Jack absolutely baffled five interceptions and the Texans found a
way to lose.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Not since nineteen seventy have you had a halftime lead
you or even overcome fifteen point deficit.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
And through five picks.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
And through five interceptions and a couple of them were
down by the red zone, one for sure, and one
I know was a hail Mary, But dude, it was.
You're going in today and you're thinking, what the hell happened? Yeah,
but it wasn't offensive line stand up to take a bow.
You showed up after being question you should have been
questioning you. You punched back last night and it was

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fun to watch, but it was a horrible, horrible way
to see a finish go for a team. Now and
you know what, after all that there's still two games
first place because nobody in the South one yesterday.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, which is ridiculous too.

Speaker 11 (14:53):
Nuts.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Demiko Ryan spoke to the media after the game after
that baffling loss. Let's here and discuss an exo sports
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
The Seawn Salisbury Show with Sewn Salisbury and Brian li
Lima on Sports Talk seven nineties.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
I got a lot of college football, will get to
that later on in the show. Obviously, the uh, the
big storyline this morning is how the Texans fell to
the Lions in that excuse me.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
In that game, go.

Speaker 9 (15:28):
C J.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Stroud nineteen to thirty three two and thirty two yards
passing one touchdown, two interceptions. He was sacked four times.
Jared Goff on the other side, quarterback for the Lions,
fifteen to thirty two and forty yards, passing two touchdowns,
five interceptions. He was not sacked one time. Tamiko Ryans
spoke about the loss last night, and this is what

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he had to say.

Speaker 12 (15:50):
The approach each week is to go win the game,
no matter how it looks. You know, we don't sit
out to win an ugly game, but in this league,
every game comes down to you called that final possession,
So you have to find a way to gut those
out and win. We haven't been on the winning side,
you know of those games, as you know Green Bay,

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New York and now Detroit. So we didn't make the
plays to win the game. Like however, you win, you
got to find a way and to play to win games,
you gotta have guys have to step up and make plays,
and that's not happening.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Yeah, And Demiko, Ryan Sean, one of the things that
we've discussed is the Texans finding ways to win games
like this, and they have yet to do that this year.
And Demiko himself, against Green Bay, you didn't find a
way to win. Against Detroit, you didn't find a way
to win. Against the Jets, you didn't find a way
to win. Two of those three teams are good football
teams with good quarterbacks. And that's no disrespect to Aaron Rodgers.

(16:48):
He's not playing well this year. Jordan Love playing good football.
Jared Goff, even though he looked terrible last night, second half,
completely different story. Another thing that I wanted to ask you.
There was a third down towards the last last part
of the game where Amen Ross Saint Brown caught it.
Aziz Au Shaiira was on him. Why would you not

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put Derek Stingley on the best wide receiver when you
know that's probably where they're gonna go. It's just like
when Travis Kelcey when the when the uh, when the
Chiefs line up on a big clutch possession, they're gonna
go to Travis Kelsey and they give him, you know,
defenders give him a free run. Same thing here where
Stingley at when when it comes to beating on Alma

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Ross Saint Brown, you know you're gonna go to him.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Well, here's the thing that I'd have to look back
at because I don't remember this year. Is Stingley following
around in the past, the team's best receiver if it's
man coverage, the team's best receiver. You saw on the
other side of the great mismatch and the great play
that they got blitz Jill Mixing stepped up inside and thumped. Yeah,

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the free runner I'm talking about lit his ass up
because Mixon does that too. Shocker. The guy's unbelievable in
every part of his game. Is still in my mind
is the offensive MVP of this team? I believe that
is he thumped him and gave Stroud to stand in
that pocket. They didn't get to his legs. Remember the
deep cross. The cross I think it was Dalton Schultz

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that you hit a rip shot and man coverage on
blitz and he ran after the catch, which was huge.
It was like third and five, I think at the time,
and they blitzed and picked it up. The opposite is
true a lot of times now there's a difference between like,
for instance, Kelsey. You even saw it in the game.
I've been seeing it. You go go back to that
Buffalo game where Alan and Mahomes put on a clinic.

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You remember that, and then Mahomes got the ball back.
How many times they gave Kelsey a free run? And
I went to berserk and then I said, if the
Super Bowl they let this happen, They was and Kelsey
was getting a free run in the Super Bowl too.
It happens too often. You don't have to give a
guy the difference between these two who's covering and how
you're doing it. When you're playing Kelsey, you know what
he's he just going up and finding seams and holes

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in in manusverage run away. It's at the line of
scrimmage because you had to take him off his mark.
You can't give him a free run where the first
contact is four yards and even then they're let him
get a six seven eight yard head start. Now you
can't contact him after five yards, at least inside of
five yards like it's because a guy like al Shaier
can play physical enough to handle Kelsey and run with it.

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That's a decent matchup, but you can't do it from
distance because Kelsey will kill anybody that allows him to
do that. On the here, it's not so much as
how A'man Ross Saint Brown's getting off the ball, it's
who's covering them, so depending on and the question for
me is also is Stingley ever coming down and covering
inside if they motion down inside or they play bunch

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and Almond Ross Saint Brown's either the point guy or
the inside guy on the with you know, the bunch
is the it looks like the triangle set right the
bunch for people.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
That don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
So the question is, and I also think they think
they're good enough to cover with other people, not just Stingley,
but he is their best cover guy. So with that,
and remember last that got hurt also when he got
hit by his own man. So I don't know the
answer to that, Brack, because I have to go.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Look.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
I don't know in man in zone, if you're playing
two deep or three deep, he's not coming inside. He's
an outside cover guy now and man, the question is
certain place you'll go like the days of Richard Sherman
or the days of Durell Revis, the great oneses in
the league, Jalen Ramsey when he is at his best,

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they'll follow that guy anywhere. It's like Dion when he
played switch sides. Flop size didn't matter. If we need
you to take guy, you go take with him. The
other ten guys will huddle. You don't need to come
to huddle. Just make sure it's a box and.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
One is what it is.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
With this, I don't know in the game if their
game plan going in, we'd have to ask is will
Stingley and has he throughout this year followed the best receiver?
And man, the problem with that is, guess what that
tells If that's the case, Guess what that tells an
offense if he's where if let's say he lines up
on the defensive right or defensive left, offensive right and

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you move and just man coverage and you shift, Let's
say you motion st Brown and then he lines up
in the slot left. If all of a sudden, no
matter where he goes, Stanley follows him, what does that
tell you as a quarterback man coverage? So now I
already know going in, So that may be a problem.
That's why his alignment and where he is maybe the reason.

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And I don't recall at any time this year, and
maybe I'm wrong seeing Stingley at least consistently sustain where
he flops sides to cover their best receiver man. And
it's a dead giveaway if you're going to follow them
all around. You know they're playing man and you don't
want to let a team like that, even as good
as Stingley is, if you protect the passion with that

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phenomenal offensive line, Guess what, Even the best of the
best can't hang in there long if you don't have
If it's one of those routes. And you saw also
the Texas on the other side, combat hitting slants and
bank postball coming out on time last night.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Yeah, what a novel concept, Crazy, isn't it? Yeah, it's wild.
The second half off for the Texans over the last
month has been atrocious. Let's take a look at the
numbers also, seven one three, two point two five, seven ninety. Well,
we will open up the phone lines and get to
your calls next as we talk about the Texans loss
right here on The Shawn Salisbury Show. The Shawn Salisbury

(22:17):
Show continued. Dallas Cowboys lose at home once again. Seven
one three, two point two five seven ninety is the
number to join us. Start taking your.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Calls real quick. Though Cooper Rush is not. He threw
for thirty five yards.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Trey Lance came in, he ran the football. I like
what I saw from Trey Lance. You know, even though
we got beat again at home.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Trey Lance isn't Trey Wingo.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
Who's not?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Who's not?

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Who's not Johnny Cabage, Who's not? Who's the new wide
receiver that I just got at the at the at
trade because I want to improve my football team.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
I watched him last night yesterday and and I thought
he was my quarterback. But Cooper Rush isn't Cooper Man.
Is Gary Cooper the actor isn't? Neither is Bradley Cooper
or Cooper Cup now Cooper Cup of Cooper Cup Cup
a cup. I mean, I'm looking for a Cooper who
could actually throw for forty yards. I ain't found him,

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and I thought, well, maybe Trey Lance. And then I thought, well,
if not him, Trey Wingo. And if not, like you said,
Hawthorne Wingo or which Jonathan Jonathan Mingo can be concerned
with former NBA player Hawthorne Wingo. Somehow I got to
find a guy named Cooper who can play this position. Okay,
I believe in this team. I've armed him with the

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I thought that maybe that we'll get somebody like this,
you know, like starts with the D, like Dak. But
then I thought, welkin see d Lamb play quarterback? I
said no, but maybe CD nuts can Ceed's nutscan.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Did you did you see the play where Cooper Rush
actually threw a very accurate ball and Ceed Lamb lost
it in the sun. Oh yeah, it would have been
a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
That's Jerry building the facility that allows it to creep
in those big ass windows.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
You can't get it. I can't see it hit you
right in a face mask.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
You wouldn't have say that's happened multiple times since that
facility been built.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
It's it's happened for they they there's a crazy stat
up here. Uh apparently over the last month it's happened
four different times where Cowboys touchdown players are affected by
the sun.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Oh yeah, coming right through there at the that Dome
stadium and the sunglass I black ain't helping that.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Neither will sunglasses.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
And the low IQ football player of the day goes
to the Washington defensive front and the player who jumped
off side, they go over there, sent them in on
fourth and one knowing and they're in their own territory.
They're not going for it. Yeah, they are not gonna
snap the ball. They hard County jumps off side game
over like the.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Most stereotypical Like, dude, they're not going anywhere like you
have got to You're not gonna snap the football.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Man and I know they were consoling him and all, dude,
don't console. If that's the case, get four yards off
the ball. And even if you jump, at least you
jumped into the third yard, not the neutral zone. How
do you, I mean, how do you you know darn
well do you not understand the situations the game? And
I'll tell you what the rejuvenation project that's been russ Wilson.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Good on him. We ripped him and ripped him and
ripped him.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Russ Wilson made that throw at the end of the
game on the fade route to get it in there.
He played Russ Wilson and Jade Dane is going to
be a special player in this league. He already is.
But russ Wilson did some really good things, and I
see why Mike Tomlin went to him. And it's like
he's trying to just make enough play. He's not trying
to make too many plays. He's kind of shifted his

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mentality because he's not the best player on their team,
and it's really working out. Pittsburgh's dangerous and russ Wilson's
made him better.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yeah, well it's crazy Mike Tomlin winning again with the
Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
That's a pretty good division, at least a team that
may not make it in Cincinnati. That's really I mean,
they could score on anybody in two teams in Baltimore
and Pittsburgh. They got a chance to win the whole
damn thing real quick.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
On Jerry Jones and the Sun impacting plays at AT
and T Stadium. He said after the game quote. By
the way, we know where the sun is going to
be when we decide to flip a coin or not.
We do know where the damn sun is going to
be in our own stadium. End quote. That is a
real quote from a real owner and general manager of
a football team talking about the sun impacting his indoor stadium.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Can you imagine? And it ain't coming from above, It
ain't come from above, It's come from that. If you've
never been in that building, the window that's opening one
end right shining through, Yeah, you do. But sometimes you
don't win the coin toss yer and somebody else takes
the opposing play side. And are you basically telling me
we shouldn't call plays to score on if we're going

(26:34):
into the sun. So I'm dictating my play calling based
on your building, Thanks buddy. As if there's not enough
problems for a quarterback in an offensive play caller to
deal with, then oh you know what, don't throw that
ball over the middle at about at three seventeen in
the afternoon because that's a later game at five o'clock,
because the sun's going to shine through and you'll have

(26:56):
no way to catch it. And if there's not a
more alarming or what in the world comment in sports?
The way Michaeh. Parsons destroyed Mike McCarthy is about as
close to insubordination we talk about player empowerment. Now, you

(27:16):
know it ain't Micah that's going if somebody goes, I
get it, but dude, just there's gotta be some sort
of respect for your head coach, even if you don't think.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
I mean, we don't want now, we don't want.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Our coaches doing that to our players, right, Yeah, I
mean Michah Parsons destroyed him with his comment, and I'm
sure you have it there.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
We'll get to it.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
But and I have it too, I can pull it up.
But he to talk about Zach Martin. He goes, I
don't really. I mean the things he said, those are true, right,
those aren't fake. I thought I saw from an immediate source,
cause I didn't see the press conference, and I looked
twice at two different ones, and.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
So I got the quote that I have is from
a senior NFL reporter for who's Sport's exactly right, right,
Mike can leave and go wherever he wants, but.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
There's a plenty before it. Zach Martin lege I don't care.

Speaker 9 (28:00):
Mike.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, Mike doing it, Uh, since that's far more than
Mike McCarthy's ever done in his career. Zach Martin, they said,
there's a comment. Yeah, I have the whole quote. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Pretty bad.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
If a player, if a coach said that about a
player in public after a game, they would destroy it.
Now again, Michael Parsons is a great football player, so
he's going to get the benefit out. And Mike McCarthy
probably not gonna last this. You know, he may not
last the season, let alone that. But there's got to
be a little bit of respect for your subordinates. They're
just a taddy if you just argue, yell and scream

(28:32):
all you want and when the when the seeds over.
But to do that in the media and you're going
locker room, it tells you that Mike McCarthy and Michael
Parsons aren't doing a whole.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Lot of talking, right, Yeah, probably Mike McCarthy in the
entire locker room probably not doing a lot of talking.
So I get to Roger real quick. Roger, appreciate you holding.

Speaker 13 (28:46):
Good morning, good morning as fast as I can without
my blood pressure going up?

Speaker 9 (28:53):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (28:53):
So, so yesterday, you know, I saw two teams on
the field, you know, the the first team look like
a team that was motivated and ready to kick some ass.
And and you know, uh, I'm not sure Sean.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
This is where you come in.

Speaker 15 (29:08):
This is this is why we love having you here.

Speaker 13 (29:10):
And you're the man and you always be the man
as far as when these things are concerned.

Speaker 15 (29:14):
Hey, uh, does does Sean not see the field as far?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Does that mean I'm not the man on Does that
mean I'm not the man on things that aren't concerned
with this?

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I'm just kidding you, brother, I got you. What was
your question?

Speaker 9 (29:27):
Need?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I need you?

Speaker 14 (29:28):
Shot?

Speaker 16 (29:28):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
I'm all too, I'm all tuned into wherever you're going,
my man, I got you?

Speaker 15 (29:33):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (29:34):
So, uh?

Speaker 15 (29:35):
Does he not have freedom to change change the calls?

Speaker 17 (29:39):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (29:40):
Pre staff when when the play calls called in?

Speaker 14 (29:43):
Because it seems like it's just he doesn't have that
freedom to change a play call when he sees something
that isn't right.

Speaker 15 (29:49):
I mean, these run run pass work well everybody on
that stadium and you know, do you know, you know
guys that are.

Speaker 14 (29:55):
Scheming for this, and there's things called tendencies, and there
are things called you know play uh, you know, play
calls that they.

Speaker 15 (30:02):
Normally go to. And then there's there's tendency breakers we don't.

Speaker 18 (30:06):
Have to have.

Speaker 19 (30:07):
We don't seem to have none of that at our
disposal of what's going on with with you know, looking
at looking at looking at a certain look.

Speaker 15 (30:14):
And then call you know, calling all of it, you
know when you know, like like Manning.

Speaker 14 (30:18):
Used to get the guys and you know, you know,
make them, put them in very different positions according to
what the what they.

Speaker 15 (30:25):
Look like on the field.

Speaker 14 (30:26):
I know, the disguise a lot of a lot of stuff,
but it's front just not that not that developed in
his and is gain it or is just slowly just
you know, crapp in his pants. Maybe it's a little
bit of both. But I see a bunch of confusion.
Uh when when it comes up to the pregame.

Speaker 15 (30:44):
To pre stapping and and before the ball is staffing
and the like, it's like it's like, well, here you go.

Speaker 14 (30:51):
He's like, here's another run play for you you know,
you know, second and thirty and he got to two
run plays.

Speaker 15 (30:57):
That's a problem. And there's also a large living breathing
ongoing problem.

Speaker 14 (31:03):
And it goes way before the sixth game, the six
games or how many games we've had at the second
half of that's going to touchdown. It's called in game adjustments, uh,
real time adjustments.

Speaker 15 (31:13):
There's none of that going on. Just just you know,
we have the personnel.

Speaker 14 (31:18):
I really thought it was kind of a person l
But it's not like you said, like when they fixed
that whole line, all they did was mixing match a
couple of big pieces, put them.

Speaker 15 (31:26):
In the right spot of Waila. You know, you get
a little bit more time for Sprut for shout to operate.

Speaker 14 (31:33):
But what I'm saying is is what's going on with
the play calling between Slovak and and and and Stroud.
As far as you may give you the freedom to
call out of a play, I don't see that happening.
And this is where Sean, this is we come and
play by brother. But the best play of the weekend
Jasy greenover cutting Cake Cunningham.

Speaker 15 (31:52):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 10 (31:53):
All right?

Speaker 15 (31:53):
Then I was out.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Appreciate you, brother. What we'll do.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Let's take a break, allience, and we come back. Because
there's there's a a couple of layers to this and
and uh see, if I can't dive deep into that
for Roger and tell you what they should be doing,
and if they are, we'll we'll.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Dive into that.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Yeah, Dimiico Ryans actually spoke about the second half offense
over the last month here. We will get to that
and of course Shawn's breakdown all the question. He was
just asked about the play calling seven seven and will
keep on talking about the Texans loss when we come
back next on Sports Talk seven and eight.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues the need to no Now
you know.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Melvin Lee Greenwood, Melvin Lee, Roy Greenwood.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah, I like it, great song and uh, like I said,
the truth is bless you, bless you, bless you?

Speaker 4 (32:47):
What do you do? Yeah, they deserve more than today.
I can tell you that. Yeah, they fought more than today,
didn't they. Yeah, they sure did all our veterance. Yeah, thanks, thanks,
guys and gals. I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
It's almost I know, thank you, but it's never it'll
never be pray for him and all that. It will
never be enough. No, it will not a damn thing
we can do that ever lives.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
Up to be. Yeah, So there you go. They're sacrifices. Unbelievable. Man,
that's how we recognize them today on Veterans Day seven.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
An American, We're at least I do who I'm free.

Speaker 20 (33:20):
Don't forget the man who died and the man that
right for me, and I gladly stand.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Up next to you and defind her still today over
the little country. Yeah, well that's all. It's Lee Greenwood
at exactly you know, we're in exactly motown.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
We got to have some Toby Keith at some point
this morning. Right, it's six fifty in.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Your ass and see American way, it's hey, it's six
fifty one.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Yeah, I know, Oh yeah, you're right. We have four
hours yeah exactly, Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 11 (33:56):
I know.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
I'm proud to be American. Where at least I know
I'm free. Yeah, true, you know what I'm saying. You
and a golf shirt, not like it. I don't like
it wearing collared shirts.

Speaker 21 (34:09):
You better.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
You better get on your gut cobe to start making
you some mock turtlenecks for the off season.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
The ted tiger Woods, little mini mock. I need a
good vest, little minis right? I mean I need you
to take a picture to break down. I mean, I
gotta pose this as patriotic as it gets. Red shorts,
flags on my golf shirt because we're playing in a tournament.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Blue sweater, the collared shirt's a good look.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
My shoes today have stars and stripes from Squares, a
good golf shoe company there.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I mean, I'm paying full.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
You got the flag hat as well.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Damn right from from a t mat Travis Matthew.

Speaker 9 (34:45):
But you don't.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
It's it's not like you to wear a golf shirt.
It's really not like you.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
It is by Kobe Stevens a Kobe Stevens dot com,
by the way.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
And me, I wear golf shirts all the time, sometimes
leisure wear, sometimes to play.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the colored shirts
just in general. I don't I don't understand your route, dude,
I don't get your game. It's uncomfortable. You look just
super Yeah, you know, good luck today, but thanks, I
appreciate it. Make a putt, baby, Yeah, I'll probably make
a putt.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Give me long enough.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
We'll try for show. We'll put for dough. Yeah, we're
gonna win that tournament.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
We've got a couple of ringers in there.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
We'll be all right, Yeah, we'll be fine. Yeah, seven one,
three five, seven ninety Joe, how are you feeling about
these Texans?

Speaker 10 (35:26):
Not good?

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Man.

Speaker 22 (35:28):
It's like their m O right now is they'll have
a lead going into time and then blow it in
the second half.

Speaker 9 (35:37):
And I would rather watch.

Speaker 22 (35:39):
Them get blown out, then watch them do what they
did and give me hope. And I'm sitting there with
my buddies. We're drinking beer, we're eating food, and we're
having a great time. And I told all my friends
that are going to get blown out. They were like, see,
you're a hater, and they're they're they're winning and they're
and then we go to the second half and they

(36:02):
lay a goose egg.

Speaker 17 (36:03):
And I hang up and listen.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Thank you, Joe, Joe.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I understand your frustration. What I do knows athletes, they'll
they'd always rather be in it. I'd rather get blown out.
Nobody wants to get blown out. They don't like that either.
But I get your point.

Speaker 9 (36:16):
Man.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
It makes it the difficult because you're almost, as a fan,
feel like helpless, right, and Roger will hit you at
the top of the seven o'clock hour.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
We can dive into why or does C J.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Stroud have the ability to do his thing at the
line of scrimmage, to change plays and if he does, great,
If he doesn't, why not would you rather okay with
with our?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Is that Joe?

Speaker 9 (36:42):
Joe?

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Thanks for a call, and I do like to hang
around with you, buddy, drinking beer and eating food just
like a different result.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
What do you agree?

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Would you rather have him? Would you rather have the
Minnesota Vikings game or last night's game? Where do you
learn more about that team?

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Last night?

Speaker 6 (37:00):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
What do you learn last night?

Speaker 9 (37:04):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Somebody said that never watched the game, said they're six
and four. Tell me what you learned after them getting
beat by Detroit? Just the overall sixty minute package. What
did you learn about them?

Speaker 6 (37:14):
I feel like the second half there were no in
game adjustments made I feel like that Detroit was a
team that's been there and found ways to win their
and you know what, and their performers stepped up in
big moments. Aman Ross Saint Brown was held down pretty
much the entire first half the whole game for the
most part, yeah, but made plays when needed. Jared Goffs

(37:36):
outside of throwing the five interceptions, one of those being
on a hail Mary. Outside of that dude, there were
balls being thrown all over the place by him. He
was not very accurate last night, but he made the
plays when necessary.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
And didn't wilt after the fifth pick.

Speaker 15 (37:49):
No, did not.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
You gotta have guts to keep I'm telling you right now,
you have guts to keep chucking it after you've thrown five.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
And then, for me, honestly, the second half play calling
is way too predictable. The defense for the Lions made
halftime adjustments through different looks at the Texans, and the
Texans offense did not make adjustments. Now, if that's Bobby
Slowick or if that's CJ. Stroud, Joe Mixon was stifled

(38:15):
all night. The offensive line played so much better when
it came to pass pro. And you know what, another
thing that I learned or that we knew coming into this,
they missed Nico Collins. John Metshi played well. John Metschi
was the leader receiver last night.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yet I thought their receivers played well enough to win.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
Yeah, and Tank Dell excuse obviously was in the mix.
There were some drop balls as well. The defense had
one of them on the sidelines too.

Speaker 8 (38:39):
For me, and I know you.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Echoed the same thing. The defense isn't the worry. What
in the we're talking about the offensive struggles for the
Texans red.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Zone defense becomes a problem, and they did some good thing,
made a couple of picks, mats and plays last night.
That's an issue and late game physicality at the line
of scrims last night, the Lions were able to run
the football with too much effectiveness in the fourth quarter.
They just were The one thing I learned we'll go
to break, I mean, among a lot of things is
and it's just from my optics to watching it, not

(39:08):
watching to get Like I said, I'll go back, if
not today because we're in a golf tournament sometime tomorrow.
Is the optics of There is a lack of execution, obviously,
and that's captain obvious. But whether it's an intensity, a passion,
or some offensively to put people away, they let too
many well look around, They've let too many teams hang

(39:28):
around this year.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
It feels like it's the question I've asked you man,
probably probably this entire season. It feels like at times,
and I'm gonna keep going back to the play caller,
it feels like at times in the first half the
book was open for him for Bobby Slok and in
the second half he closes a little bit and they
play not to lose rather than to be the air
it out open, open book mentality.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
What got you to a twenty three to seven lead, dude?

Speaker 23 (39:52):
It was.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
It was all over the place, right, So I said
a good way said before play not to lose. You
end up letting people hang around. You play to win.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
If I'd rather go balls to the wall, played it
not playing hard. They all play hard I'm talking about
with play calling and aggressiveness, and then let's see how
the result goes that way. I can tell you this,
after five picks, did Ben Johnson back off even at
fifteen down, You're not out of It's a couple series
and they attack, So that that part of it was
a great learning experience last night. The ability to foot

(40:22):
on the throat and Detroit does it about as well
as anybody in football right now. And the defense played
well enough to win, but they didn't get enough stops
in the end and the run game in the offense,
obviously you don't score touchdowns in the second half.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
You're not beating good teams. No, and real quick Brian
I know we got to go to break.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
In their wins, who have they blown out this year?

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Nobody did?

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Did not Indianapolis with Richardson have a chance in that
game to win the game.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
In the opener, Texans won twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Okay, Buffalo nine out or he was a nine out
of thirty with josh On twenty three to twenty. Okay,
keep going, I'll just go down the list. Bears they
won nineteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Kings kayleb believes that those ball the other team they
got a chance to win.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
Vikings blew them out thirty four to seven, Jags twenty
four to twenty. Bill's twenty three to twenty Patriots is
the only blowout when they had. That's because it's the
freaking Patriots forty one to twenty one. They lost to
the Packers twenty four to twenty two. They lost to
the Colts twenty three, or excuse me, they beat the
Colts twenty three twenty, lost of the Jets twenty one thirteen,
lost last night twenty six twenty.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Every game has been a chance to win for both teams, Yes,
and except two one loss in one win.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
Yeah, we'll talk about the offensive struggles, especially in the
second half as we get into the seven o'clock hour. Also,
seven one, three, two point two five, seven ninety is
the number to join next sports Stock seven.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Ninety Salsbray.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Old Berry, Salisbury, Houston.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Sean Salisbury, the USC Truth, longtime friend, Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sean Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Tail two games.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Texans lose to the best team in the NFC and
very well maybe the best team in the A in
all of football.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
But I can tell you this, You're not supposed to win.
I'm still reeling.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
I don't know what the other headlines are or across
you know football, college football will get to it. But
I can tell you this the headline of last night
and watching what the Texans defense did and how they
dismantled in the first half Detroit five picks.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I know one was a Hail Mary, but five picks.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
You're not supposed to be up fifteen and take the
ball away five times and still lose in your building.
Hasn't happened since nineteen seventy and weaknesses showed last night.
A lot of strengths. I'm gonna tell you what wasn't
a weakness for the most part last night was the
offensive line played their best game. They took some sacks

(42:50):
against the good Detroit team, and I and Aaron Glenn,
who's a really good defensive coordinator, but I will tell
you right from the get go, they were challenged, and
they stepped up some penalties and I know he'd got pressure,
but you see what happens when the guy sets his
feet now. He also in c. J. Stroud made some
monumental mistakes last night late and a ball that that's
why timing and getting it out and seeing coverage. But

(43:13):
welcome in on a Monday. I'm sure we're gonna empty
the bucket today. When you can't score in the second half,
you can't win. We don't play thirty minute games in
the NFL, So welcome in, tripley. Good to see you, Brian.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (43:23):
Nineteen unanswered points last night, morning guys, nineteen unanswered Sean
Mahner scored a second half touchdown and since week six.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
Yeah, I uh, I honestly, and I watched every single
snap of that game last night, and I couldn't sleep
and I couldn't sleep after not just because the last
time this one. Yeah, I I watched it, and I'm
be honest. I woke up this morning, you know, even
after I don't know how you guys slept last night.
When I have a game like that, where keep your
adrenaline going till the end, and that was till the

(43:53):
very end. I mean there was sixty full sixty minutes
that Detroit played. May have been a crap be thirty
minutes by the trade, but they played sixty and all
the playing hard.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
People are supposed to play hard. I get all that,
but I can tell you this.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
That staring at the ceiling and rolling around thinking, and
I honestly, I get up and go pee in the
middle of the night after you go to sleep, and
it's like, I still don't know how they lost. I'm serious,
you look, I still don't know how they lost. I
mean Detroit just kept chipping away, chipping, and you saw
the run dominance late by Detroit that pushed the fronts

(44:30):
of it that you could see it. And I understand
Nicocollins and will and Anderson. They had a couple guys
hurt too. I mean, it goes all the where and
they took on mon Ross, Saint Brown, the whole, out
the whole until the end. What as gibbs do those
guys get the Gibbs can get to the edge about
as quick as any player in football.

Speaker 9 (44:48):
Man.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
Yeah, and then they turn around and there's not dammit,
what am I thinking of Montgomery? Montgomery, David Montgomery. Yeah,
I was baffled about to say, Dave Henderson l last
night and I promise you this. I'm sitting here now,
honest to god. Truth is I to a word sitting
around last night and I said, hey, they are going

(45:11):
Do not be shocked.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
It was halftime.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
They already said it, and I'm serious, got up and,
you know, fiddling around, thinking I'm gonna tape it so
I can watch it like I always do, but just
to make sure it's taped. But I said, watch Detroit
come back and win this. I've seen the movie, not
just with the I'm not talking about the Texans. I've
seen the movie with Detroit. How they come out, matter

(45:34):
of fact against Minnesota a couple weeks so their first
half was ass and we could say all we want.
We said it about the Texans. Is it a good
team that doesn't play well and finds a way to win?
It is if it's sixty minutes. Look at the Chiefs
again yesterday, Yeah, look at the Chiefs again yesterday.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Who who? Who kind of flounder around?

Speaker 5 (45:54):
And that you know, the the Denver always gives them
trouble it last you know, the last six times they've
played me. Kansas City is not a great spread cover team.
If you're a gambling person, take to and the Denver Broncos.
I mean they're inside that they hung around. Bow Nicks
played well.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
But what do they do?

Speaker 5 (46:10):
They hang around and then they turn it on at
the right time. And I still don't understand, and I
want to understand. I've seen it year in and year out,
play in and play out. Why Travis Kelsey gets a
free run at the line of scrimmage I tweeted about, Yesda,
I don't get it. Yeah, And this wasn't just this year.
It wasn't just before. Hopkins was right, I saw it.
But I do whatever I do it, I said, why
it doesn't matter who the personnel is around you, that

(46:31):
guy does not get a free release. So point isn't
leading into all that is the Kana City Chiefs find
a way, the Detroit Lines find away Baltimore Ravens on
Thursday night found a way. Now we know that Stroud's
got that in him in the end, But this team
this year is lacking this foot on the throat mentality.
And I don't know why I watched their attitude. Al

(46:52):
Shi here is a beast. Petrie was all over the field,
played like a pro bowler last night. The defense is
nasty about what they've done to Golf and Allen this year.
They've obliterated them until and then.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
They made him.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
You know they get the coverage was pretty tight where
Golf was yankin balls into the ground even when he
won throwing picks, but phenomenal throws. The throw he threw
the Laporte on the deep over route came out of
play action to the left. It was about a thirty
seven yard ripshot dart to the left side where he
got down inside the ten or whatever. I'm just telling you.

(47:26):
And Stroud made some throws last night. Metchi, Welcome to
the NFL, buddy. You look like a player last night.
Tank Dell Stroud made some throws last night. You see
what happens when a guy gets to set his feet
and even him after Remember we talked about the cumulative
hits that he'd been taking, and it's I mean the hits,
it's a cumulative effect on how the ball comes out,
and we set it him inut. I wish we could

(47:47):
draw it up. You saw last night he himself had
to settled his ass down because the last couple of
games he's been a little too anxious and leaving running
into trouble. Because I don't blame him after what the
offensive line and causing, you know, running into trouble and
bailing too early. When he gets through all his progressions
and delivers it. You saw the throw he made on

(48:08):
the bank post to Mechi in the end zone that
that's just gold. He made some throws that his accuracy
pushing into all that looked like the guy we're used
to now in the second half, I don't know why
they're afraid to finish. You let it hang three and
out three. And the way the game started pissed me
off too. They got the ball, two runs, throw two runs,

(48:30):
throw stuffed on the first two runs. Now Mixing just
keeps grinding right. And I'm gonna tell you something. Detroit's
defense against the run game last night was damn good.
But Stroud made some plays and they did some great things.
I don't understand sometimes the gimmicks when you're backed up
and you run a reverse, and sometimes I think we
get a little too cute. I think all coordinators do.
Hel Ben Johnson got a little cute early on. They

(48:50):
say settle back and said we're gonna do it. We
do and they close it out and in truth, I mean,
you know, Golf, I mean they make the pick on
a diving interception. And both secondaries last night there, even
though there was a lot of some good numbers put
up by Stroud, both these secondaries are really frigging good. Yeah,
the corners and some of the best safeties on the plant.

(49:11):
Matter of fact, you had about four safeties in the
game last night that are full blown bullocks playing out
of his he's all rookie team. Petree played great. You
see the two safeties for Detroit due there. The branch
is a is a frigging nutting, a nightmare to deal with. Yeah,
he led the lines and tackle. Yeah, they are just
they're all over the place last night. And the diving interception,

(49:31):
you know, back to and then wood Golf do throw
it right back to him. I mean it was it
was one of those games. But I'm sick to my stomachs,
not the word. I'm like, how did this happen? I'll
tell you how it happens.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
At Nope.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
At twenty three to seven, did you honestly believe that
they were done? Did you really believe they were done?
I thought it was just wasn't there night because golf
was he was due for seven.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
I thought, just from what I've seen from the Lions,
I thought they would be in position late in the
game to at least tie the ballgame. And they just
from what I've seen from the Lions and the way
that the second half went, And I don't know if
this is one of the things that I want to
get to at some point today. Maybe we could spend
a couple of segments on it, Like where does Bobby
Sloans play calling in the second half fall with these losses?

(50:18):
I told you because it's I feel like things are
just way too predictable, and then you look at some
of the play calls on third down and it's like,
what in the hell are you calling?

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Did you feel like last night or feel like this
year now that just this may just be because they lost.
If they're winning, we're talking even if the team comes
back bittersweet when you let a team back into it.
But if we win, we're having a different conversation. Because
the first thirty minutes that looked like a team that
could run through the AFC and beat anybody that's exactly defensively,
offensively special teams. I mean this kick return game, they're

(50:47):
special teams. Simms was on flying Yeah, And they look
like a team that can play with Kansas City ball
to any of them. Second half, they look like a
team that couldn't play with anybody. And I mean they
hung in there, but I swear to you, I feel
like and things were.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Going so well. I mean for the most part in
past protection that's proud of. Not in the run.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
It's odd they decided to pass protect them. Couldn't move
anybody at the line of scrimmage running the ball last night.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
You remember, you remember last week when I asked you
about Jared Patterson. You see who they started at center
last night, Jared Patterson. You see where they moved Juice
Scruggs to the left guard.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Where And the truth is it's crazy. The truth is
this is that's their best go to right now. Yes,
and you know the couple penalties and the one time
Tunsel got didn't even whiffed.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
On a straight pass rush. I mean, you got gat
of your stance.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Now, the problem with that is when you tell him
to get out of his stands, you know what he does,
He jump right, But that just goes Both teams had
got some players now all over injuries or not. Both
teams couldn't win without all their players healthy. But I
will tell you that in the second half, they didn't
look like they belonged. But the offensive line did a
one hell of a job. But it looks to me

(51:59):
like in the second half, it's like, Okay, we got
this going on, let's let's shorten this game and get out.
And I don't want the pass protection to break down.
It felt like Bobby Slowick in the second half. And
I'm not talking I'm talking about the but it permeates
to the team. It felt like the Lions had a
sense of urgency where they had to play with their
hair on fire, and they did. And it felt like
the Texans offensively not listen. I got no issues with

(52:22):
them defensively. You kept putting them in a buy. Eventually
they're gonna go score, they're that good. Hell, it's shot
when you when you hold that team under thirty, you
take a bow. Yeah, And so I almost felt like
a pass protection is good. We've got this our quarterbacks upright,
let's just get out of here. And the problem is
when you go a couple three and outs and the
interception that stroud the games. If he just gets it

(52:44):
up on time. I mean, this guy came from the
other part of the field, but when it was open,
if he just puts his wing, he could throw off
balance and just throw a little rip shot there, just
drop shot.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
In the corner the end of the Why he didn't
need to say, why just get it out when you
start to go there and you see him separate, just
get it up. Yeah, And he put too much hair
on it was was.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
About three seconds, I mean a couple of a second
and half too late interception and from then on, I mean.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
So that and that was strictly on him. That ball's
got to get it. You got to see that that
was too easy.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
But it was.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
And so but he gosh, dang, when he can set
his feet and throw it, dude.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Chris Collins were talked about the whole broadcat much more quiet.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
He was in the pocket right, and there was not
a lot of and not just quiet with his feet,
but the whole everything about him was just bored in
the pocket, which is when I say bored. And he
when he moved, he moved it, kept his head up
and made some dude he is. He is so frigging good.
But the couple of mistakes. You can make that mistake
against Jacksonville, you can make that mistake. Hell against the

(53:43):
Jets at times, you know they were awful and I
would have never thought they'd go.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
But they're just not good. They can't they can't keep the.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Bay, they can't keep it up.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
So and you can do that against the Cowboys. You
can't do it against Detroit. No, you can't do it
against Baltimore. You can't do it against Cincinnati, even though
you can't because Burro. You can't do it against mahomes Hell,
you're right now. You can't do it against the Chargers.
And they bore me with their boy, are they not
Michigan in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
As soon as that that coaching higher, I was like, dude,
they're gonna run and be physical.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
They're gonna bore you to death and win yeah, so,
but I just I'm mortified, or but that's that's it's overboard,
it's football. I am baffled, baffled how they let and
every time they just pan over to Demico and he's
looking back up the scoreboard. It's like it's almost like
he knew this thing was headed in the wrong direction.
And then it just I mean, I they're six and four,

(54:37):
they're kind of good at six and four.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Does that make sense that first half team we saw
last night?

Speaker 5 (54:42):
That's why that's why they're kind of good. If you're Detroit,
you're going home and you're watching the tape today and
you know you're saying, our first half sucked. But if
you're think about the feeling in the locker room, you
dominated the first half. If you're the Texas and could
have beat anybody, well, and you get in the locker
room and then at the end of the game, now
you're going to watch tape, you're like, we did some
good things, but man, the wins all that matters. That's

(55:03):
why I go back to you want pretty wins or
ugly loss I mean, ugly wins are pretty losses.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Half pretty second half.

Speaker 9 (55:09):
Bug.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
If you're Detroit at halftime. You went in there like,
what in the hell is going on? Stay the course?
How's that? Playing flight home?

Speaker 5 (55:16):
They're feeling a lot better now they've got corrections to make,
but now they are eight and one and feeling good.
And think about I mean, they're eight and one, the
Texans are six and four, and the Texans for thirty
minutes kick their ass up and down the field.

Speaker 9 (55:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
You know what's never going to be a problem now
here and people are gonna come is defense. These guys
frigging fly around. But when you're playing an offense, it's
got as many weapons on offense as you do on defense.
And eventually a'man Rossaint Brown was going to bust out
because Ben Johnson's not stupid. I'm still baffled by the

(55:51):
loss this morning, absolutely baffled.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
Five interceptions and the Texans found a way to lose.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Not since nineteen seventy have you you had a halftime
lead or even overcome fifteen point deficit.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
And through five picks and through five interceptions, and a.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Couple of them were down by the red zone, one
for sure, and one I know was a hail Mary,
but dude, it was You're going in today and you're thinking,
what the hell happened? Yeah, but it wasn't offensive line
stand up to take a bow. You you showed up
after being questioned. You should have been questioning you. You
punched back last night and it was fun to watch,
but it was a horrible, horrible way to see a

(56:30):
finish go for a team. Now, and you know what,
after all that, there's still two games first place because
nobody in the South one yesterday.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Yeah, which is ridiculous too.

Speaker 11 (56:38):
Nuts.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
Demiko Ryan spoke to the media after the game after
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Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
Alabama. On Saturday, Ole Miss takes down Georgia. Got a
lot of college football. We'll get to that later on
in the show. Obviously, the uh, the big storyline this
morning is how the Texans fell to the Lions in
that excuse me, in that game. CJ Stroud nineteen to

(01:02:27):
thirty three two and thirty two yards passing one touchdown,
two interceptions. He was sacked four times. Jared Goff on
the other side, quarterback for the Lions fifteen to thirty
two and forty yards, passing two touchdowns, five interceptions. He
was not sacked one time. Tamiko Ryans spoke about the
loss last night, and this is what he had to say.

Speaker 12 (01:02:48):
The approach each week is to go win the game,
no matter how it looks. You know, we don't sit
out to win an ugly game. But in this league,
every game comes down to you called that final possession,
so you have to find a way to gut those
out and win. We haven't been on the winning side,
you know, of those games, as you know Green Bay,

(01:03:09):
New York and now Detroit. So we didn't make the
plays to win the game. Like however, you win, you
got to find a way and to play. To win games,
you gotta have guys have to step up and make plays,
and that's not happening.

Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
Yeah, And Demiko Ryan Sean, one of the things that
we've discussed is the Texans finding ways to win games
like this, and they have yet to do that this year.
And Demiko himself, against Green Bay, you didn't find a
way to win. Against Detroit, you didn't find a way
to win. Against the Jets, you didn't find a way
to win. Two of those three teams are good football
teams with good quarterbacks. And that's no disrespect to Aaron Rodgers.

(01:03:45):
He's not playing well this year. Jordan Love playing good football.
Jared Goff, even though he looked terrible last night, second
half a completely different story. Another thing that I wanted
to ask you there was a third down towards the
last last part of the game where Amen Ross Saint
Brown caught it. Aziz Au Shaira was on him. Why
would you not put Derek Stingley on the best wide

(01:04:07):
receiver when you know that's probably where they're gonna go.
It's just like when Travis Kelcey when the when the uh,
when the Chiefs line up on a big clutch possession,
they're gonna go to Travis Kelsey and they give him,
you know, defenders give him a free run. Same thing
here where Stingley at when when it comes to being
on almar Ros Saint Brown, you know you're gonna go
to him.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Well, here's the thing that I'd have to look back
at because I don't remember this year. Is Stingley following
around in the past, the team's best receiver if it's
man coverage, the team's best receiver. You saw on the
other side of the great mismatch and the great play
that they got blitz Jill Mixing stepped up inside and thumped. Yeah,

(01:04:52):
the free runner I'm talking about lit his ass up
because Mixon does that too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Shocker.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
The guy's unbelievable in every part of his game is
still in my mind is the offensive MVP of this team?
I believe that is he thumped him and gave Stroud
to stand in that pocket. They didn't get to his legs.
Remember the deep cross. The cross I think it was
Dalton Schultz that you hit a ripshot and man coverage
on blitz and he ran after the catch, which was huge.

(01:05:19):
It was like third and five I think at the time,
and they blitzed and picked it up. The opposite is
true a lot of times now there's a difference between like,
for instance, Kelsey. You even saw it in the game.
I've been seeing it. You go go back to that
Buffalo game where Alan and Mahomes put on a clinic.
You remember that, and then Mahomes got the ball back.
How many times they gave Kelsey a free run? And

(01:05:39):
I went to berserk and then I said, if the
Super Bowl they let this happen, they was and Kelsey
was getting a free run in the Super Bowl too.
It happens too often. You don't have to give a
guy the difference between these two who's covering and how
you're doing it. When you're playing Kelsey, you know what
he's he just going up and finding seams and holes
in in man coverage run away, it's at the line

(01:05:59):
of screen because you had to take him off his mark.
You can't give him a free run where the first
contact is four yards and even then they're let him
get a six seven eight yard head start. Now you
can't contact him after five yards, at least inside of
five yards like it's because a guy like al Shaier
can play physical enough to handle Kelsey and run with it.
That's a decent matchup, but you can't do it from
distance because Kelsey will kill anybody that allows him to

(01:06:22):
do that. On the here, it's not so much as
how Aman Ross Saint Brown's getting off the ball, it's
who's covering him. So depending on and the question for
me is also is Stingley ever coming down and covering
inside if they motion down inside or they play bunch
and Alman Ross Saint Brown's either the point guy or
the inside guy on the with you know, the bunch

(01:06:43):
is the it looks like the triangle set right the
bunch for people that don't know. So the question is
and I also think they think they're good enough to
cover with other people, not just Stingley, but he is
their best cover guy. So with that, and remember last
that got hurt, right so when he got hit by
his own man. So I don't know the answer to that, Brack,

(01:07:05):
because I have to go.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Look.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
I don't know in man in zone, if you're playing
two deep or three deep, he's not coming inside. He's
an outside cover guy now and man, the question is
certain place you'll go like the days of Richard Sherman
or the days of Revs Durell, Revis, the great ones
in the league, Jalen Ramsey when he's at his best,

(01:07:26):
they'll follow that guy anywhere. It's like Dion when he
played switch sides flop size didn't matter. If we need
you to take guy, you go take with him. The
other ten guys will huddle. You don't need to come
to huddle. Just make sure it's a box and one
is what it is. With this, I don't know in
the game if their game plan going in, we'd have
to ask is will Stingley and has he throughout this
year followed the best receiver and man, the problem with

(01:07:48):
that is, guess what that tells If that's the case,
Guess what that tells an offense if he's where if
Let's say he lines up on the defensive right or
defensive left, offensive right, and you move and just man
coverage and you shift. Let's say you motion st Brown
and then he lines up in the slot left. If

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all of a sudden, no matter where he goes, Stanley
follows him. What does that tell you as a quarterback
man coverage? So now I already know going in, So
that may be a problem. That's why his alignment and
where he is maybe the reason. And I don't recall
at any time this year, and maybe I'm wrong seeing
Stingley at least consistently sustain where he flops sides to

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cover their best receiver man. And it's a dead giveaway
if you're going to follow them all around, you know
they're playing man and you don't want to let a
team like that, even as good as Stingley is, if
you protect the passion with that phenomenal offensive line, Guess what,
even the best of the best can't hang in there
long if you don't have if it's one of those routes.
And you saw also the Texas on the other side,
combat hitting slants and bank postball coming out on time

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last night.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Yeah, what a novel concept crazy, isn't it? Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 18 (01:08:56):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
The second half offense for the Texans over the last
month has been atrocious. Let's take a look at the
numbers also. Seven one three, two point two five, seven ninety. Well,
we will open up the phone lines and get to
your calls next as we talk about the Texans loss
right here on The Shawn Salisbury Show. The Shawn Salisbury
Show continued. Dallas Cowboys lose at home once again. Seven

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one three, two point two five, seven ninety is the
number to join the start taking your calls real quick. Though.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Cooper Rush is not. He threw for thirty five yards.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
Trey Lance came in, he ran the football. I like
what I saw from Trey Lance. You know, even though
we got beat again at home.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Trey Lance isn't Trey Wingo.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
Who's not?

Speaker 31 (01:09:39):
Who's not Who's not Johnny kre Cavite, Who's not Who's
the new wide receiver that I just got at the
at the at trade Dead because I want to improve
my football team.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
I watched him last night yesterday and and I thought
he was my quarterback. But Cooper Rush isn't Cooper Manning
isn't no Gary Cooper the act there is it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Neither is Bradley Cooper or Cooper Cup now Cooper Cup
of Cooper Cup cup a cup. I mean, I'm looking
for a Cooper who could actually throw for forty yards.
I ain't found him, and I thought, well, maybe Trey Lance.
And then I thought, well, if not him, Trey Wingo.
And if not, like you said, Hawthorne Wingo or what
Jonathan Jonathan Mingo not to concerned with former NBA player

(01:10:21):
Hawthorne Wingo. Somehow I got to find a guy named
Cooper who can play this position. Okay, I believe in
this team.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
I've armed him with the I thought that maybe that
we'll get somebody like this, you know, like starts with
the D, like Dak. But then I thought, welkin see
d Lamb play quarterback? I said no, but maybe CD
nuts Can, Ceed's nuts Can.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
I don't know. Did you did you see the play
where Cooper Rush actually threw a very accurate ball and
Ceed Lamb lost in the sun. Oh yeah, it would
have been a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
That's Jerry building the facility that allows it to creep
in those big ass windows that you can't I can't
see it hit you right to you wouldn't have say
that's happened multiple times since that facility have been built.

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
It's it's it's happened for they they there's a crazy
statup here. Uh apparently over the last month that's happened
four different times where Cowboys touchdown players are affected by
the sun.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Oh yeah, coming right through there at in that dome stadium,
and the sunglass I black ain't helping that, neither of
will sunglasses. And the low IQ football player of the
day goes to the Washington defensive front and the player
who jumped off side, they go over there, sent them
in on fourth and one knowing and they're in their
own territory. They're not going for it. Yeah, they are
not gonna snap the ball. They hard County jumps off

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sidees game over like the most stereotypical like, dude, they're
not going anywhere, Like they're not. You have got to
You're not gonna snap the football man And I know
they were consoling him and all, dude, don't console. If
that's the case, get four yards off the ball and
even if you jump, at least you jumped into the
third yard, not the neutral zone.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
How do you I mean, how do you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
You know, darn well, do you not understand the situation
of the game. And I'll tell you what the rejuvenation
project that's been. Russ Wilson good on him. We ripped
him and ripped him and ripped him. Russ Wilson made
that throw at the end of the game on the
fade route to get it in there. He played Russ
Wilson and Jade Daniel is going to be a special
player in this league.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
He already is.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
But Russ Wilson did some really good things and I
see why Mike Tomlin went to him. And it's like
he's trying to just make enough play. He's not trying
to make too many plays. He's kind of shifted his
mentality because he's not the best player on their team.
And it's really working out. Pittsburgh's dangerous and Russ Wilson's
made him better.

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
Yeah, well, it's crazy Mike Tomlin winning again with the
Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 5 (01:12:39):
That's a pretty good division, at least a team that
may not make it in Cincinnati. That's really I mean,
they could score on anybody in two teams in Baltimore
and Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
They got a chance to win the whole damn thing
real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
On Jerry Jones and the sun impacting plays at AT
and T Stadium, he said after the game. Quote, By
the way, we know where the sun is going to
be when we decide to flip the cooint or not.
We do know where the damn sun is going to
be in our own stadium. End quote. That is a
real quote from a real owner and general manager of
a football team talking about the sun impacting his indoor stadium.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Can you imagine? And it ain't coming from above, It
ain't come from above, It's come from that. If you've
never been in that building, the window that's opening one
end right shining through, Yeah you do.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
But sometimes you don't win.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
The coin toss here and somebody else takes the opposing
play side. And are you basically telling me we shouldn't
call plays to score on if we're going into the sun.
So I'm dictating my play calling based on your building, thanks, buddy.
Is if there's not enough problems for a quarterback in
an offensive play caller to deal with, then oh you

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know what, don't throw that ball over the middle at
about at three seventeen in the afternoon because that's a
later game at five o'clock because the sun's going to
shine through and you'll have no way to catch it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
And if there's not a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
More alarming or what in the world comment in sports,
the way Michaeh Parsons destroyed Mike McCarthy is about as
close to insubordination we talk about player empowerment. Now, you
know it ain't Micah that's going if somebody goes, I
get it, but dude, just there's gotta be some sort

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of respect for your head coach, even if you don't think.
I mean, we don't want now, we don't want our
coaches doing that to our players, right, Yeah, I mean
Michaeh Parsons destroyed him with his comment.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
And I'm sure you have it there. We'll get to it.
But and I have it too.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
I can pull it up. But he to talk about
Zach Martin. He goes, I don't really. I mean the
things he said, those are true, right, those aren't fake.
I thought I saw from an immediate source, cause I
didn't see the press conference, and I looked twice at
two different ones, and so.

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
I got the quote that I have is from a
senior NFL reporter for ut who's sports. It's exactly right, right,
Mike can leave and go wherever he wants, but.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
There's a plenty before it. Zach Martin lege, I don't
care what Mike. Yeah, Mike doing it since far more
than Mike McCarthy's ever done in his career.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
Zach Martin. They said there's a comment, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
I have the whole quote. Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty bad.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Pretty bad if a player, if a coach said that
about a player in public after a game, they would
destroy it. Now again, Michael Parsons is a great football player,
so he's going to get the benefit out. And Mike
McCarthy probably not gonna last this. You know, he may
not last this season, let alone that. But there's got
to be a little bit of respect for your subordinate.
They're just a taddy if you just argue, yell and

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scream all you want and when the when the seeds over.
But to do that in the media and you're going
the locker room, it tells you that Mike McCarthy and
Michael Parsons aren't doing a whole.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Lot of talking, right.

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
Yeah, probably Mike McCarthy in the entire locker room, probably
not doing a lot of talking. So I get to
Roger real quick, Roger, appreciate your holding good.

Speaker 13 (01:15:44):
Morning, good morning, as fast as I can without my
blood pressure going up.

Speaker 15 (01:15:51):
Uh So, So yesterday, you know, I saw two teams
on the field, you.

Speaker 14 (01:15:55):
Know, the the first half team looked like a team
that was motivated, ready to kick some ass.

Speaker 15 (01:16:01):
And and you know, uh, I'm not sure, Sean.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
This is where you come in.

Speaker 15 (01:16:06):
This is this is why we love having you here.

Speaker 13 (01:16:07):
And you're the man and you always be the man
as far as when these things are concerned.

Speaker 15 (01:16:11):
Hey, uh, does does Straw not see the field as far.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Does that mean I'm not the man on Does that
mean I'm not the man on things that aren't concerned
with this?

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
I'm just kidding, your brother, I got you. What was
your question?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
I need you, I got you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
I'm all too, I'm all tuned in to wherever you're going,
my man, I got you, Okay?

Speaker 15 (01:16:32):
So, uh, does he not have freedom to change change
the calls?

Speaker 9 (01:16:37):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (01:16:37):
Pre staff when when the play calls called in?

Speaker 14 (01:16:40):
Because it seems like it's just he doesn't have that
freedom to change a play call when he sees something
that isn't right.

Speaker 15 (01:16:47):
I mean these run run past work well everybody on
that stadium and you know, do you know you know
guys that are.

Speaker 14 (01:16:53):
Scheming for this, and there's things called tendencies, and there
are things called you know play uh, you know play
calls that.

Speaker 15 (01:16:59):
They normally go to. And then there's there's tendency breakers.
We don't have to have.

Speaker 19 (01:17:04):
We don't seem to have none of that at our disposal.
What's going on with with you know, looking at looking
at looking at a certain look.

Speaker 15 (01:17:12):
And then call you know, calling all of it?

Speaker 14 (01:17:14):
You know when you know, like like Manning used to
get the guys and you know, you know, make them,
put them in different positions according.

Speaker 15 (01:17:22):
To what the what they look like on the field.
I know, the disguise a lot of a lot of stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:17:26):
But it's Fron just not that not that developed in
his and has gained it or is just slowly just
you know, crapp in his pants.

Speaker 15 (01:17:35):
Maybe it's a little bit of both, but I see
a bunch of confusion.

Speaker 13 (01:17:40):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:17:40):
When when it comes up to.

Speaker 14 (01:17:41):
The pregame to pre staffing and and before the ball
is staffing and the like, it's like it's like, well,
you go, He's like, here's another run play for you
you know, you know, second and thirty and you got
to two run plays.

Speaker 15 (01:17:54):
That's a problem. And there's also a large, living, breathing,
all going through problem.

Speaker 14 (01:18:00):
And it goes way before the sixth game, the six
games or how many games we've had at the second
half of that's going to touchdown. It's called in game adjustments, uh,
real time adjustments. There's none of that going on, just
just you know, we have the personnel. I really thought
it was kind of a person up. But it's not
like you said, like when they fixed that whole line,

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all they did was mix and match a couple of
big pieces, put them in the.

Speaker 15 (01:18:24):
Right spot of Waila. You know, you get a little
bit more time for Sprut for Stout to operate.

Speaker 14 (01:18:30):
But what I'm saying is is what's going on with
the play calling between Slovak and and uh and and Stroud.
As far as you might give you the freedom to
call out of a play, I don't see that happening.
And this is where seanvis is we come and play
by brother. But the best player of the weekend, Jensy
greenover cutting Cake Cunningham.

Speaker 15 (01:18:49):
That was beautiful, all right? Then I was out a
good er.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Appreciate you, brother.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
What we'll do, Let's take a break allience that we
come back, because there's there's just a couple of layers
to this and and see if I can't dive deep
into that for Roger and tell you what they should
be doing and if they are, we'll we'll.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Dive into that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Yeah, Dimiico Ryanes actually spoke about the second half offense
over the last month.

Speaker 9 (01:19:12):
Here.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
We will get to that and of course Shawn's breakdown
all the question he was just asked about the play
calling seven seven and will keep on talking about the
Texans loss when we come back next on Sports Talk
seven and eight.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
No, now you know Melvin Lee Greenwood, Melvin Lee Roy Greenwood.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Yeah, I like it, great song and uh, like I said,
the truth is, bless you, bless you, bless you?

Speaker 9 (01:19:44):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Yeah, they deserve more than today. I can tell you that. Yeah,
they fought more than today, didn't they.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Yeah, they sure did.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
All our veterans. Yeah, thanks, thanks guys and gals. I
don't even know it's almost I know, thank you, but
it's never it'll never be. We pray for him and
all that it'll be enough. No, it will not a
damn thing we can do that ever lives up to
the Yeah, so there you go. They're sacrifices. Unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
Man, that's how we recognize them today on Veterans Day seven.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
American we're at least one. No, I'm free.

Speaker 20 (01:20:17):
Don't forget the man who died and the man that
right for me and gladly stand up.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
Next to you and the thin her still today over
the little country. Yeah, well that's all. It's Lee Greenwood
ate exactly. You know, we're in exactly motown. We got
to have some Toby Keith at some point this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
Right, it's six fifty in your ass and see American way.
It's hey, it's six fifty one. Yea, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
Oh yeah, you're right. We have four hours. Yeah exactly, Yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 18 (01:20:53):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
I'm proud to be American. Where at least I know
I'm free. Yeah, true, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
you and a golf shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:01):
I don't like it wearing collared shirts.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
You better, you better get on your gut cobe to
start making you some mock turtlenecks for the off season
the ted Tiger.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Woods little Mini mox.

Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
I need a good vests, right vests. I mean, I
need you to take a picture to break down. Mean,
I gotta pose. This is patriotic as it gets. Red shorts,
flags on my golf shirt because we're playing a tournament,
blue sweater.

Speaker 6 (01:21:30):
The collar. Shirt's a good look.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
My shoes today have stars and stripes from Squares, a
good golf shoe company there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
I mean, I'm paying full. You got the American flag
hat as well, damn right from from a t mat Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
Travis Matthew, But you don't. It's it's not like you
to wear a golf shirt. It's really not like you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
It is by Kobe Stevens at Kobe Stevens dot com,
by the way.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
And me, I wear golf shirts all the time, sometimes
leisure wear, sometimes to play.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
Yeah, I'm not not a big fan of the colored
shirts just in general.

Speaker 10 (01:21:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
I don't understand your route, dude, I don't get your game.
It's uncomfortable. You look just super Yeah, you know, good
luck today. Thanks, I appreciate it. Make a putt maybe, yeah,
I'll probably make a putt. It'll be long enough.

Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
We'll try for show, we'll put for Dell. Yeah, we're
gonna win that tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
And we've got a couple of ringers in there. We'll
be all right.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
Yeah, we'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
Seven one three, seven ninety Joe, how are you feeling
about these Texans?

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Not good?

Speaker 17 (01:22:25):
Man.

Speaker 22 (01:22:25):
It's like their m O right now is they'll have
a lead going into time and then blow it in
the second half. And I would rather watch them get
blown out, then watch them do what they did and
give me hope. And I'm sitting there with my buddies.
We're drinking beer, we're eating food, and we're having a

(01:22:46):
great time. And I told all my friends are going
to get blown out. They were like, see, you're a hater,
and they're they're they're winning and they're and then we
go to the second half and they lay a goose
and I hang up and listen.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
Thank you, Joe, Joe, I understand your frustration. What I
do knows athletes, they'd always rather be in it. I'd
rather get blown out. Nobody wants to get blown out.
They don't like that either. But I get your point.

Speaker 9 (01:23:13):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
It makes it difficult because you're almost as a fan
feel like helpless right and Roger will hit you at
the top of the seven o'clock hour.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
We can dive into why or does C. J.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
Stroud have the ability to do his thing at the
line of scrimmage to change plays.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
And if he does, great, If he doesn't, why not?
Would you rather okay with our?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Is that?

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
Joe?

Speaker 21 (01:23:40):
Joe?

Speaker 5 (01:23:40):
Thanks for a call, and I do like to hang
around you, buddy, drinking beer and eating food just like
a different result. What do you agree? Would you rather
have him? Would you rather have the Minnesota Vikings game
or last night's game? Where do you learn more about
that team?

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
Last night? For sure?

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
What do you learn last night?

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
Somebody said that never watched the game, said they're six
and four. Tell me what you learned after them getting
beat by Detroit? Just the overall sixty minute package. Wou'd
you learn about him?

Speaker 6 (01:24:11):
I feel like the second half there were no in
game adjustments made I feel like that Detroit was a
team that's been there and found ways to win their
and you know what, and their performers stepped up in
big moments. Aman Ross Saint Brown was held down pretty
much the entire first half the whole game for the
most part. Yeah, but made plays when needed. Jared Goffell

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the Lions outside of throwing the five interceptions, one of
those being on a hail Mary. Outside of that, dude,
there were balls being thrown all over the place by him.
He was not very accurate last night, but he made
the plays when necessary and didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Wilt after the fifth pick.

Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
No, did not.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
You gotta have guts to keep I'm telling you right now.
You have guts to keep chucking it after you've thrown five.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
And then for me, honestly, the second half play calling
is way too predictable. The defense for the Lions made
halftime adjustments through different looks at the Texans, and the
Texans offense did not make adjustments. Now, if that's Bobby
Slowyck or if that's CJ. Stroud, Joe Mixon was stifled

(01:25:12):
all night. The offensive line played so much better when
it came to pass pro. And you know what, another
thing that I learned or that we knew coming into this,
they missed Nico Collins. John Metschi played well. John Metschi
was the leader receiver last night.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Yet I thought the Weir receivers played well enough to win.

Speaker 6 (01:25:28):
Yeah, and Tank Dell excuse obviously was in the mix.
There were some drop balls as well. The defense had
one of them on the sidelines too. For me, and
I know you echoed the same thing. The defense isn't
the worry. What in the we're talking about the offensive
struggles for the Texans.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
Red zone defense becomes a problem. And they did some
good thing made, a couple of picks made and plays
last night. That's an issue and late game physicality at
the line of scrims last night, the Lions were able
to run the football with too much effectiveness in the
fourth quarter. They just were One thing I learned we'll
go to break, I mean, among a lot of things
is and this is just from my optics to watching it,

(01:26:05):
not watching to get like I said, I'll go back,
if not today because we're in a golf tournament sometime tomorrow.
Is the optics of There is a lack of execution, obviously,
and that's captain obvious. But whether it's an intensity, a passion,
or some offensively to put people away, they let too
many well look around, They've let too many teams hang

(01:26:25):
around this year.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
It feels like it's the question I've asked you man,
probably probably this entire season. It feels like at times,
and I'm gonna keep going back to the play caller,
it feels like at times in the first half the
book was open for him, for Bobby Sloan, and in
the second half he closes a little bit and they
play not to lose rather than to be the air
it out open open book mentality.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
What got you to a twenty three to seven lead, dude?

Speaker 15 (01:26:49):
It was?

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
It was all over the place, right, So a good
way said before play not to lose. You end up
letting people hang around. You play to win. If I'd
rather go balls to the wall, played it not playing hard.
They all play on I'm talking about with play calling
and aggressiveness, and then let's see how the result goes
that way. I can tell you this, after five picks,
did Ben Johnson back off even at fifteen down, You're

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not out of It's a couple series and they attack,
So that that part of it was a great learning
experience last night. The ability to foot on the throat
and Detroit does it about as well as anybody in
football right now. And the defense played well enough to win,
but they didn't get enough stops in the end, and
the run game in the offense. Obviously, you don't score

(01:27:31):
touchdowns in the second half, you're not beating good teams. No,
and real quick, Brian, I know we got to go
to break.

Speaker 9 (01:27:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
In their wins. Who've they blown out this year?

Speaker 6 (01:27:39):
Nobody did?

Speaker 5 (01:27:41):
Did not Indianapolis with Richardson have a chance in that
game to win the game.

Speaker 6 (01:27:44):
In the opener, Texans won twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Okay, Buffalo n or he was a nine out of
thirty with josh On twenty three to twenty. Okay, keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:27:55):
I'll just go down the list. Bears they won nineteen
thirteen final. If kleb wives that those ball the other
team they chance to win. Vikings blew them out thirty
four to seven, Jags twenty four to twenty, Bills twenty
three to twenty. Patriots is the only blowout when they
had and that's because it's the freaking Patriots forty one
twenty one. They lost to the Packers twenty four to
twenty two. They lost to the Colts twenty three, or
excuse me, they beat the Colts twenty three to twenty.
Lost of the Jets twenty one thirteen, lost last night

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twenty six twenty Every game has been a chance to
win for both teams. Yes, and except two one loss
and one win. Yeah, we'll talk about the offensive struggles,
especially in the second half as we get into the
seven o'clock hour. Also, seven one, three, two point two five,
seven ninety is the number to join next Sportstock seven ninety, KDM.

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Okay, let's do this. Sean Sells.

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Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
This is the Sean Salsbury Show, number three and number
four in the college football fall on Saturday, talking about
the Texans loss. Before we get into, uh, the offensive
play calling and lack of in game adjustments, Let's take
a couple of calls. Seven one, three, two two five
seven Reggie, Good morning, Reggie, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:29:33):
How you guys are doing today?

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
Good brother? What's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (01:29:36):
I got man, Look, John, I want to ask you
a question you'll always tell you. Uh, how fortunate New
York to have you here in Houston with your experience and.

Speaker 10 (01:29:45):
Your expertise and sports.

Speaker 7 (01:29:47):
Whatever happened to you In the quarterbacks, Joan, when they
stack a line the defensive line, the linebackers are stacking
the line telling you we dare you to throw the ball.
Whatever happened to the You had a full back last
year that opened up the whole for a smaller running
back like they did last year. This year they don't

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use the four back at all, and you got run
run the last caller he was head on with the
using extra alignment, and there was a player in the game.
I was surrounded by Detroit people who overwhelmed the stadium.
I'm wondering when they caught that interception. The ball hit
the turf. The miko throw a red flag. You got

(01:30:31):
it for you for a reason used the flag. He
did not catch that interception. You're giving him once away,
and just like everybody else, the offensive coordinator is not
cutting it. Whatever they doing. San Francisco needs to change.
Just like we ran out of those people who are
always talking about the New England Patriots way, they got

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rid of them, we have to get rid of that
San Francisco forty nine away as well. And it's just
mind boggling to me that you've given away games you
should have should not have given away. This team should
be sitting at nine and one right now today, but
they've given it away. And lastly, Sean, whenever these athletes
start messing with these hot float uh publicize uh hoochie

(01:31:17):
mamas like uh like uh the quarterback did with that
chick hamber Rosa, it's never a good sign when they
start feeling themselves. It's the kardash in the curse you
asked me when they start fooling with these celebrity mama.

Speaker 18 (01:31:32):
Now I ain't going to this.

Speaker 6 (01:31:33):
Appreciate it ready.

Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
I mean, quarterbacks gotta eat too, okay, does it? I'm
talking about on dating. I mean if we say, if
if we say the ladies got the quarterbacks, they got
a date to don't they date?

Speaker 4 (01:31:52):
Or eat? Eat?

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
Is the same thing when we say, oh man, I'm
going to I'm going I'm going to the game.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
Like, well, but they gotta eat you. How are you
going to crow bar your way out of this one?

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
Not crowbarn that's a fact. They got to eat you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
Yeah, in more ways than one, I'm sure. Okay, But
food and winning games and what do what does.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
Jabi saying you know it? What does he say? You
got to eat dub anyway?

Speaker 5 (01:32:17):
And I see you're your head went somewhere else mine
and Triple E's was on football. Okay, But anyway to
Reggie point, are both am I try?

Speaker 22 (01:32:25):
Am?

Speaker 7 (01:32:25):
I right?

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
Triple matter of fact, might have been racist, might have
been racist, might have been racing. Are so full of it?
Well that's that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
Nobody knows what the factor is. Apparently we have it. Okay,
So that's how I spun it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
There you go. Anyway, Reggie's there's a lot of layers
to this Kardashian curses one of them.

Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
It's a real thing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Reggie a line.

Speaker 5 (01:32:51):
It's like on the cover, wad out the cover of
the video. Gave all that stuff right right now to
football parts of it. I don't think you have to
do a way with the San Francisco way. You just
have to continue to expand on those things. I like,
you want to run the football. Teams run the football
win a lot of games. Yeah, look at Detroit's ability
to run the second half and what happened. They ran

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it pretty damn well, especially in the fourth quarter. But
what you have to do is ego can't get involved
when you're average two yards to carry. You know what
your best part of your game was last night? Putting
the ball on your quarterback's hands. And whether it's the
quick screen game, hitch game, slant game. And then you
don't always have to soften a team up by running
it first. You can throw it first and run it second.
That's part of it. And mixing's a stud but sometimes

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like last night, defenses obviously had a goal and what
was that last night, not to let mix and beat
him in the run game? Correct, yes, and he didn't.
And the touchdown that he scored was a shovel pass. Yeah,
was a little quick flip, so it was a touchdown pass.
And then Joe did all that work. But I personally,
the San Francisco ways a good way. The way they

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run their offense is a good way. But it's a
good way when you have when you're executing everything else.
But what happens is it's not the system, it's when
the guy. It's like anything. You go to church, a
lot of times, it's not the church. It's not the message.
Somebody somebody in the in the church. You say that
person bugs me when you when you leave a church
to go somewhere else. It may not be the principle

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of the gospel principles. It may very well be the
person that you don't like or people in there that
look at you different if you don't think like it's
kind of like voting right.

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
But it's the same thing here. The system. The system
is really good. But the system also calls for.

Speaker 5 (01:34:34):
The ability to expand and understand what you're doing well
and what you're not within the course of a game.
Adjustments and adaptation. To be able to adapt is important.
So I but Bobby Slowak is taking us has taken
a step back this year.

Speaker 6 (01:34:47):
So I looked at aggressiveness. I pose a question to you,
should they go away from this quote unquote Shanahan offense?
So I just looked at two random drives in the
fourth quarter. This one was five plays. Can you guess
what first, second, and third down look like?

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
I already know because it started the game same way.
Run run throw, run, run throw in back to back series.
So this was in the fourth quarter, five plays, forty yards.
They did not score, run run throw. They eventually dishrot
was eventually intercepted. The Detroit Lions get the football. Jared
Goff intercepted again, Texans get the football back.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Six plays. You know what the first two plays were
run run throw, Yeah, six plays, six yards. They punted
the football. Well, what is that telling that's just two
drives in the fourth court?

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
What is that telling you that they're not attacking the
way that they're playing not to lose as opposed to
playing to win, at least in the way they're approaching
it offensively. So in last night's game particular, I mean,
they're not firing Bobby Slok right now.

Speaker 6 (01:35:46):
No, I don't think that's an answer, right, Damn dude,
open your freaking playbool.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
But once again, it's not. Andy Reid runs a form
of it. He runs a West Coast offense. He runs
a vertical pack. Andy Reid has about eight different systems
because we called forty nine or system.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
But there's got to be expansion. It does.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
Just because Deebo Samuel can do it from the backfield
doesn't mean somebody else can, right, just because Christian McCaffrey,
Joe Mixon, you know, I mean it has it's in truth,
it's not the offense, it's how we execute it and
how you call the place. And it's okay to throw
three straight downs in a row, hitch route, slant route,
boom or play action. Get the ball of the flat

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right now, give me six yards. That's just as good
as a run. And it's just his high percentage, and
quite frankly, with the way he was throwing it last night,
you get a little better chance at spreading them out
by in bandwidth, by quick game and getting them out
and getting the ball away from all that interior stuff
that becomes a problem. And that Detroit was dominated the run.
Their run defense dominated the Texans in the run game

(01:36:44):
last night. So it's not the system, it's how you
use the system. And on a hey, sometimes it comes
back and you're like, well, man, we threw it thirty times,
we ran it twenty eight times, or threw it thirty
four times, ran it thirty times, and everything we did
was working. This year, we haven't had many of those
where it's been a two dimensional team against good teams.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Their first half was still one dimensional. The threat of Mick.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Remember I always said, the threat of a guy like
that changes how defense they got to defend you. Well,
last night they tried to force feed it a little
too much, and you saw Detroit even after five picks.
They kept throwing it trying to put him in position.
I think they threw it thirty times. But they also
didn't abandon what they do. They run the football. But

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they were getting four and five six yards of pop
at times in the second half and fourth quarter as
opposed to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
Two yards of pop. Would almost take the difference in
your play calling.

Speaker 6 (01:37:35):
It almost even seems like Bobby Slowick late in that
game literally just set up the play calling to just
settle for the field goal rather than calling plays to
score a touchdown. In his mind at will be conservative. Yeah,
we've got Kaymie Fairbairn, who's a weapon from fifty plus.
Let's just go for the field goal. I don't like
that mindset. I'm not saying that's exactly his mindset, but

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that's what it looked like optically.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
I hate that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
To get out with a win and any way we
can as opposed to attack like we did in the
first half and completely put them away.

Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
Yeah, it's just frustrating. Man. Seven one three, two one
two five seven ninety is the number to join Biscal.
We'll get to you next. Also continue to take your
calls on this loss for the Texans. Uh Dimiko Ryans
calls out his quarterback CJ Stroud after that loss. What
did he say? We'll hear it in discussed next right
here on Sports Talk seven a eighty.

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Sean Salisbury, Brian, this is this Seawan Salisbury show on
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Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
Now, you don't, dude, you told me during the break
that you thought he was overrated. Really crazy, man, No,
it's never never, never, once left my mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
You know better than that.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
I love him. I remember the first time I met him.
That's it was a big dude. Now that's a It
was a strapping lad man. He's missed by the country
and everybody else. Legends loved his veterans as.

Speaker 6 (01:40:59):
Well, no question about it. Legend r P. Toby Keith,
start the bescut seven one three seven, hinty biscuit. What's
happening hey, man?

Speaker 10 (01:41:08):
Top of them? One of my brothers. A little Lima
America by Ray Charles Man.

Speaker 6 (01:41:14):
That's the Oh that's another one. Yeah, yeah, we'll get
that this out.

Speaker 10 (01:41:19):
Let me say this, Shine and Shine. I feel like
I I keep doing this, but I'm gonna have to
do it again. Shine. Let's pump the breaks, Houston Texas fan,
let's pump the breaks.

Speaker 9 (01:41:29):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:41:29):
You lost to the team that might win the Super Bowl,
and they beat you with two fifty yard field goals,
So let's just pump the breaks.

Speaker 11 (01:41:37):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:41:37):
Yes, there's an adjustments that need to be made, but
we're not throwing out. We're not firing nobody. They doing okay,
they needed they could do better, but they do. We're
not fighting. We're not gonna do this. Shine. You know
what people are.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
They are going to win the division, which gives them
their They puts them in the tournament. Now that's not
the way you want to lose. But they are six
and four and have not played their best football. But yes,
way too premature for them for us. So and we
all got an opinion on things that need to get fixed,
but we're not firing coordinators are getting read ahead coaches
right now. It's it's not time. You just got to

(01:42:11):
find the exact mix. And you got what is it
that they've played ten games, they got seven to get
it right. And think about this, with their seven games,
If they just win three, they're at nine games. If
they win five of their seven, they win eleven games.
After all, this nonsense. So we'll see how they play.
But you can't keep playing thirty minutes, Bisco. I know
you know that, but pump the brakes on. You did,

(01:42:33):
you didn't get Hey, the Chiefs may have the best record,
but when they're both playing their best football, Detroit can
play with the Chiefs, if not beat them. I'm not
sure Detroit's not the best team in the league or
Baltimore either. I think both of them are in that
contention with the Chiefs of being considered the best. So
the Texans had them and let them off the hook,
as my man Danny Green would.

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
Say, they just did.

Speaker 10 (01:42:53):
Let me say this, Sean, you gotta give the Lions credit. Yes,
they made some adjustments at halftime to get the running
game going, which got golf going. So you get them credit,
you know. That's But the problem issue is for the
Texans what's going on after the second half and most
of their games, and that this is why I'm going

(01:43:14):
to ushun. We've been parting to sing it slow it
for a while, but now we need to start going
looking at number seven. You know what I'm saying. Everything
ain't on slow it, Liman, you talked about there was
one drive when he's run run and it passed. I
think that was a run and run pass and the
dude wide opening his zone and the quarterback lied the
ball and that got intercepted. That ain't on it over

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in the coordinator.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
The play call was perfect.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
Yeah, that's I mean, I agree with you, basically, that's
not the play call that I was talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
And Biscuit, you know what drive, Whether that play call
was designed to perfection, you'll never see a receiver when
that ball should have come out of his hand. There
was not a defensive back in the picture. The defensive
back who picked it off was not in the screen,
and that he was, he was completely to the left
of the screen. The ball just had to come out
three seconds earlier. I mean the second he gets out there.
You didn't even need to be on balance. It was

(01:44:04):
an easy throw, take a little bit of air off,
and he was late, stared it down and waited too long.
And that was one hundred percent on the quarterback, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:11):
Hey, Biscuit, before we gets you out of here, how
about that Indiana Hoosiers.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Oh man, this baby number five, number five.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
And they are what ten and ten and oh right now,
right first time ever, ain't by chance, Biscuit. That's a good,
well coached football team man and a quarterback can play.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
I love him. Great to watch Birson seven.

Speaker 10 (01:44:36):
Yeah, I think let me say this last man, Shine,
I think c D and you know the Sean you
can comment on this. When the players called, there's more
often than just one, and I think CD for whatever
Reva Shine, he likes to throw to the wideouts even
on that first players started the second half. If you
look at the play, the tight end is open, but

(01:44:58):
he tried to throw it to Tank deal and it
got picked off. I think CV needs to look at
the number eighty six a little bit more, man, and
I just think that's where the issue is. He's trying
to throw it to the wideouts more when he needed
to throw it to the tight ends and backs more.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
Yeah, punching it out side sometimes got to come into
that and look at what's his name? Schultz makes a
big place last night, made some big plays. Said what
did Demico say? We have that tea tripley? Let's get
that audio of Demico Ryan. He calls out c J.
Stroud or calls him out. He talks about c J.
Stroud needed to play better. This is what he said.

Speaker 12 (01:45:32):
He's not good enough turning the football over there, especially
in red zone or coming out. You know, we talk
about getting started in the second half, and we talked
about being better in the second half. But to come
out and turn the ball over the first play of
the second half and to get in the red zonehere
we have points and to turn the ball over is
not winning football.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
Said, it's not good enough.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
That's pretty Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:45:54):
Can you say it anymore without can you rip without
ripping any deeper than that?

Speaker 27 (01:45:59):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
And and honestly, you know, people have to come to Jesus. Yeah,
and I think it's it's accountability, old your quarterback accountable.

Speaker 5 (01:46:07):
Well, they're fortunate that that ended up in a golf pick.
Didn't he throw it right back the very next play
or two plays later on the Yeah, I think he
tried to throw a bank post and it went right
through and didn't lasted or pick that one off. Was
it him or was it some maybe that was a
different series. But through five, yeah, tee. But in the
red zone he did stroud coming out, we're just under

(01:46:30):
the fifteen minute mark in the third quarter and he
throws it to the he was.

Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
One play interception for Stroud and then it was a
three play Uh so it was one two. It was
three plays later he threw a pick. Golf threw a
pick and it was intercepted by.

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
In the right in the end zone at the one
right he found he fell into the en zone. That's
the point. Was good, hell of a catch by Lassiter. Yeah,
point is is it?

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
CJ turned the ball over coming out, which could have
been a disaster if Detroit does their normal thing and
he threw one going in the red zone. That's a
fourteen point swing if normal, and the the uh well
it team ends up being more than that. I get, well,
it is fourteen points because they they It could have
been a lot worse because Detroit will normally score. They're

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one of the best red zone teams in football. And
coming out right out of it, you just can't throw
a pick. You got to you gotta read it and
can't stare him down. And it was late on both
and that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
So well.

Speaker 5 (01:47:22):
C J Stroud the way he threw it to windows
last night, he was on fire, as Chris Collinsworth pointed out,
all night. But in a couple of situations you got
to be more judicious with the football and got to
be on time and he missed him and it could
have been a lot worse.

Speaker 9 (01:47:36):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:47:36):
CJ. Stroud holds himself accountable. In the postgame presser, he
talked about that loss and the poor play from him.
Let's hear that audio and we will continue to take
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Speaker 6 (01:48:56):
Continued Adrian, thanks for holding good mone morning.

Speaker 32 (01:49:02):
I'm gonna start this by saying thank y'all, thank you
very much. Thank y'all in heaven. Because of y'all, my
family and the rest of us sleep well. Thank you
for your service.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
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Speaker 6 (01:49:15):
You need to treat these guys better and on that.
That's a different subject.

Speaker 9 (01:49:20):
Now.

Speaker 32 (01:49:24):
The head coach just called out this million dollar arm.
I understand that he was bad.

Speaker 6 (01:49:31):
He needed to go to detention.

Speaker 32 (01:49:34):
My problem is is during that press conference, I didn't
hear nothing about the play call and needs to be adjusted.
I didn't hear nothing about how we need to get
the ball out to Joe and the flats more when
Joe's on fire and that's the only way we can
get Joe going.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Three weeks ago, I didn't hear.

Speaker 32 (01:49:52):
Nothing about the guys that were letting my quarterback get
up off the ground six times. Two week after that,
he was on the ground six times, and then there
was eight times.

Speaker 6 (01:50:04):
Kid picks up.

Speaker 32 (01:50:04):
Hisself off the ground more than a thought picks up
her panties during capital once again. So if you're gonna
call out and make him have a coming to Jesus
talk from now on, I expect it. Anybody up front
lets the kid go down to the ground, press game,
I expect him to be called out. Dalton Shortz drops

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balls everywhere, misses a block, I expect him to be
called out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
Everybody's upset about yesterday's game, not me.

Speaker 32 (01:50:37):
Because I asked my daughter who to take, she said
take Detroit.

Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
That's how that went.

Speaker 32 (01:50:46):
So I'm gonna have a good Monday. But Demiko, you
done set a new standard, and now I hope you
live up to it and when Larry calls, he'll definitely
tell you how to rest me. You fellas, keep rolling,
keep having the number one show in.

Speaker 15 (01:51:04):
The world, and the rest of y'all y'all already know.

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
Even on Baker's Day, Thank you, Adrian, and he talked
about Demico Ryan's calling out c J. Stroudill. C J
Stroud held himself accountable after the game last night, and
this is what the quarterback had to say.

Speaker 33 (01:51:20):
I feel like this game was on me. You know,
definitely got to make plays, gotta make throws, can't turn
the ball over and when we're in scoring position, so
there's a I blame this on me. You know, I
gotta be better in this in those moments. So yeah,
it's really just got to go down to score in
the red zone and defenses turned getting the turnovers like
they were so got to be able to you know,

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reward them with points and you know, something we didn't do.
So you know, I feel like I'm the one to blame.
You're not going to point to ears or you know.
I one, I pointed myself and then two, you know,
we got to just move on from this and still
understand we just took one of the best football team,
the best NFL teams to know the wire, but we
really should have, you know, put him away after the

(01:52:02):
first half. So you know, I'm just really on on
the offense. You gotta be better.

Speaker 10 (01:52:07):
I got to be better.

Speaker 9 (01:52:09):
And c J.

Speaker 6 (01:52:09):
Stroud holding himself accountable for his play last night. You
know people are gonna people are gonna run with what
Demko said calling out his quarterback. I think it's more
so of holding himself account holding his quarterback accountable. And
he heard it straight there from the horse's mouth, see J. Stroud,
I've got to be better. When our defense is playing
their ass off and we're not rewarding them with points,
that's on me. I'm the quarterback. I have to make plays.

(01:52:31):
Ball's in his hand, simple as that, it sure is.

Speaker 5 (01:52:34):
And when you find out at a young age like
he is, that you're accountable for those it starts there.
And at times the truth is, even if it doesn't
start there.

Speaker 6 (01:52:44):
It still starts there, if you know what I'm saying, right,
always does, Yeah, starts in his with the quarterback man,
it always does. He's too good to be underthrowing receivers
and you know, making poor decisions with where to throw
the football and things like that. And look, man, I
don't think there's much to make with with Demiko Ryans
calling out his quarterback last night. I really don't. That's

(01:53:06):
a game they should have won. Well, Jared Goff threw
five picks.

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
What he said, Well, you don't think that that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
Dan Campbell's gonna let and and Jared Goff are gonna
look at each other. So we got to protect the
football better. Yeah, I mean legitimate four picks. I mean,
and one could have been called a fumble. But the
hail Mary before half is just that shouldn't even be
a pick. Collinsworth said, that's not even a pick worthy
of putting out a quarterback. Stat It's dumb, but it's

(01:53:33):
no big deal. And if you're a quarterback who just
wants to win, you don't care about that. But it
is you're criticizing. Respectfully, there's nothing There was no secret
he didn't throw them under the bus. And we know
how good CJ. Stroud played. But like I've always said,
you could throw for five hundred yards and look awesome.
If you lose, nobody remember, nobody cares, and so Debiko

(01:53:55):
Ryan's letting know.

Speaker 4 (01:53:56):
And you don't want to always see offensive line, the
running back.

Speaker 5 (01:54:00):
Your quarterback can't be a sacred cow when it comes
to criticism, because the guys in the locker room are
watching and paying attention to how the coach deals with
it and how the quarterback takes accountability.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
He's accountable, he said it, both of them are.

Speaker 21 (01:54:11):
And Steve J.

Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
Strouds made a point of letting you know when he
doesn't play well, he tells you and now you got
to go back to work. But I have zero problem
when a coach says we can't turn the ball over here.
You don't have to be a genius to figure that, right,
So he's not saying anything that's like prophetic.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
Yeah, but I can tell you what is prophetic about.
You turn it over, you don't win. Yeah. Most of
the time.

Speaker 5 (01:54:37):
You turn it over five times and you win, which
is even more that's a frustrating part in the defense
played a hell of a football game.

Speaker 6 (01:54:43):
They sure did. Let's talk to Carl.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Carl, Good morning, Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 29 (01:54:49):
Hey, quick question, do we only have one year of
reviewing passer appearance?

Speaker 9 (01:54:55):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:54:55):
What happened with that?

Speaker 6 (01:54:56):
They changed it the very next year. It was around
for once and then they changed it.

Speaker 29 (01:55:01):
That's that's I've seen too many plays where where there's
the defender meets the meets the offensive player way too early.
Why I think, I mean even last night's game, I
mean they should have called that. That was that was
he was way before the ball even got there. Like

(01:55:23):
and not only that, I think Tank Dell needs to
attack the ball a little bit more. There was another
pass on the sideline where he just kind of let
the ball come to him and the defender came and
and and took out just deflected the ball instead of
attacking the ball at the going towards the ball.

Speaker 6 (01:55:42):
If that makes any sense, Yeah, yeah, it's I mean
he got there early. There's there's no doubt. And it's
like Sean and I always talk about Carl uh, just
make everything reviewable because there's just been so many, so
many miscalls this year on so many different things.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
If you want to review a pass interference call and
you got a red flag left, you should be able
to review it. And they if they say, well, it's
not if they say they can't figure it doesn't look
the call in the field was not pass interference and
the ball arrived. If they come up with the fact
that at least you get a red flag to challenge it.
If they'd have thrown a red flag or they were

(01:56:16):
capable of on a pass interference call last night, that
would have been a first down for the Texans on
the pass interference call. So it's never just one play,
there's no doubt. I just I contend you don't need
to give him any more red flags. Just allow them
if they have them, to review every plays. A judgment call.
It makes no sense if you're going to judge if
a guy stepped out of bounds or not, why can't

(01:56:37):
you judge if he was hit earlier or not.

Speaker 4 (01:56:38):
It makes absolutely no sense to me. It's stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:56:42):
I totally agree. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:45):
Call the NFL change stuff we don't want changed, Yeah,
and gimmick us up with a kickoff crap and then
turn around and when there's a blatant call you should be.
A guy grabs a guy by the jersey when he's
running down the field. That's holding. A guy arrives a
second and a half before the foot ball gets there,
it's past interference. A guy jumps off sides in the
neutral zone, Okay, let's just do this. Let's just say,

(01:57:07):
for instance, when that guy in Washington yesterday jumped off
sides when they hard and let's just say Russell would
have snapped the ball at the time, but the guy
still was early, and they let the play go but
didn't tell a flag, and then they got stuffed.

Speaker 6 (01:57:23):
Can't reduce it's a game changing play, game's over.

Speaker 4 (01:57:26):
Can't review it, can't review it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:28):
So let's just say they felt like, now he got
from my vantage point of the side, jud you got
off on the ball, yet he was early. Let's just
say they'd have snapped it when he jumped, but he
still was premature and is or let's say he lined
up helmet in the neutral zone and they then they
don't call it, and he moves a little bit, they
don't call it, and all of a sudden, Washington gets

(01:57:49):
the ball back.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
And they go down to kickfield, going win.

Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
Games.

Speaker 5 (01:57:54):
See my point, And isn't that a judgment call that
we should be asking? Oh yeah, he lined up in
the neutral zone even without moving. That's a penalty. Aren't
they all judgment every single play?

Speaker 6 (01:58:03):
You know what bothers me the most, I think, And
again we've talked about this pass interference. We've talked about
the neutral zone, We've talked about illegal procedures with the
left tackle and right tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs,
jumping early every single freaking play when they're on offense,
and it's never called. What bothers me the most is
we have replay assists now in the NFL. It's instantaneous.

(01:58:25):
Instead of having to throw a challenge flag, they go
straight to New York. New York comes down to that
game and says, hey, you got to change that call.
Replay assist helped you out. Okay, that's fine. On calls
that are not made, penalties that are not thrown. Why
are they still not using replay assist. I'm looking at
this play last night that we're talking about with the
pass interference that was not called. Terry McCauley, the NBC

(01:58:49):
rules analysts automatically came straight in and said that it
should have been a foul for defensive pass interference. They
get these replay You've been in a booth, You've called
so many games on TV. You know a fact. These
replays get back into the booth, probably even more now
with than when you were calling it. They get these
these replays so quick it is blatant past interference. Why

(01:59:09):
can't replayss come down and say throw the flag, that's
past interference. I don't understand, it's instantaneous. Just get it right,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
There are only so many things you can review.

Speaker 5 (01:59:22):
In the middle of the field on in the second quarter,
and there's a pass interference call and demiko, anybody doesn't
throw a red flag. Let's say that you can review anything,
and he doesn't throw a red flag.

Speaker 4 (01:59:35):
The play goes on.

Speaker 21 (01:59:36):
That's on you.

Speaker 5 (01:59:36):
You're trying to preserve them for the right time, right, Yeah,
guy jumps off sides a legal procedure, and you got
a flag left, and it's late in the game and
it's fourth and four and your guy jumps off sides
to me and and their defense jumps off sides, which
gives you a first down, but they don't call it,
and it's blatant. Even if it's close, you got a
red flag, use it. It's not more red flags, it's
just using them how you want to use them. And

(01:59:57):
if it's inside of two minutes in the past interference
calls there, now you review it. Nothing changes other than
let me review whatever I want. If I'm crazy enough
in the middle of the first quarter to throw a
red flag on an off side call, then that's on me. Now,
if it's a blatant win and I get to keep
the red flag, then everybody wants just get it right,

(02:00:18):
and review, for the most part, will get it right.
To me, it's much easier to see a penalty, you know,
on a on a blatant pass interference or like an
off side's illegal procedure call than it is to tell
if a guy that if the black kicks up and
the guy's got control of a football.

Speaker 4 (02:00:33):
Those are harder calls. The easy ones.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
Oh I got a red flag. No, no, no, that
he blatantly was off side. Here's the red flag. Okay,
you get it back, pick it up, and you get
to or you get to preserve your time out. When
you get two two throws, two red flags, challenge plus
the inside of two minutes, you get to keep your
time out.

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
Why not.

Speaker 5 (02:00:50):
It's not slowing the game down anymore. It's just get
calls right. I thought that was the object.

Speaker 6 (02:00:55):
Yeah, just get it right.

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
But then again, what do we know.

Speaker 6 (02:01:00):
We're just caveman, you know, simple caveman. Seven seven hinety
is the number to join Tony Holly. John will get
you guys next on sport Stock seven highty.

Speaker 15 (02:01:09):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
This is the Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (02:01:14):
It's been since nineteen seventy.

Speaker 5 (02:01:15):
That happened fifteen points or more and throwing five interceptions
and still going on the road and winning. That doesn't
happen very often. Let's get out to uh uh, I
think it says John here. Let's go to John John.
Welcome in, Man.

Speaker 10 (02:01:26):
How you doing, hey man?

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
What's up all good buddy? What's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (02:01:33):
Hey man?

Speaker 17 (02:01:33):
You know uh, I know the CJS Drid was getting
the ball out a little quicker last night, so I
do think that he's learned now. I can see he
still doesn't trust his offensive line, So I mean they
got they have to be a little bit better. And
you know the fact that they haven't scored any touchdowns
the last few games in the second half, that does

(02:01:55):
stick out like a saw a thumb. But you know, normally, man,
I wouldn't laugh at this, but I got admit, man,
last night, when CJ threw a couple of the men
or seven, especially the one out toward the touchdown line,
it was like you saying himself, oh my, look at
this cake out having that guy just bade him and
came over there and took it. I had to kind
of laugh at that because I knew that was a

(02:02:17):
lesson for CJ to learn. You can't float the ball, baby,
You got to throw it a little bit harder. But man,
you know you had a call a call in earlier
about an offensive lineman making them bringing in the extra
one and making him eligible. I had forgotten about that,
because you know Mike Sanahan when he won the Super Bowl,
he did a lot of that stuff too. I think
if they thought about bringing in the nextra offensive lineman

(02:02:40):
and making him eligible, that was solve a lot of
these problems when they get in his four quarter and
they cannot get these tough runs because they lost that
full back to one Brooks Dad that got itself hurt
and you know and all that. And I don't know
if they can go back out there and get that
other full back or whatever, but they could use a
full back on next offensive linemen when they're getting ready

(02:03:02):
to run the ball or even throw the ball, because
they having problems running the ball. When these teams come
in here and shut them down. Then extra offensive lineman
I think would help a lot. But anyway, man, look
we got to keep our eye on the ball. But remember, people,
the number one thing win the division. Maybe by that
time Houston, their whole team is very healthy, we might

(02:03:24):
see something different because you know, they do have some
really really good players. They have good good players. That's out, man,
that's hurt. We could get everybody healthy. We just might
be in for a surprise when the playoffs rolled around. Hey,
y'all have a good one.

Speaker 4 (02:03:39):
Brother, Thanks, John, appreciate you, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (02:03:41):
And it has to be I always say, if you
get in, get in when you're playing your best and
your healthiest. And so they've got seven seven games to
get it right. Last night was a tough one when
it looked like they had the best team in the
NFC dead to rights. But that's why you play sixty,
not thirty. And that's exactly what Detroit did. Even though
their first thirty was ugly. Apparently their second thirty was

(02:04:02):
better than the Texans first thirty because they finished up
with the victory and the made field goal.

Speaker 4 (02:04:07):
And that was part of it.

Speaker 5 (02:04:08):
John, somebody earlier had said that was the point I
was missed, I said, what else did One of our
previous callers ask, was about a full back in the
backfield the old West Coast offense forty nine er Way
and Denver Bronco Mike Shanhanway was with a fullback.

Speaker 4 (02:04:22):
We devalued the fullback. We use a move h back
once in a while.

Speaker 5 (02:04:26):
Some people will put him in, but we're so spread
out with three wides and twelve personnel sometimes where it's
back and two tight ends, you know, or twenty one personnel.

Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
We don't see much too.

Speaker 5 (02:04:37):
You know, the old school two backs, one tight end
and two wide receivers, but were spread out so much
they just devalued it. They say, it's like a team
in baseball. Do you want an extra pitcher? Do you
want an extra outfielder? A lot of times, I mean
with this, they figure if I got a tight end
that we can motion and he can chip the edge
or what have you? That carrying a fullback salary cap wise.

(02:04:57):
But I'll tell you you want to talk about an
underappreciated group of players, and we don't run the same
ISO plays and straight eye formation, lead back up on
the linebacker on the safety and toss we're doing that
as so much single back that they just figure for
the amount of plays that these coordinators are going to
put in Now doesn't make it right.

Speaker 4 (02:05:16):
You can still win hard, Boss proven it.

Speaker 5 (02:05:18):
You can still win with two backs in the backfield
in college and in the NFL and get under center.

Speaker 4 (02:05:23):
You don't have to be in the gun all the time.
You can do a little bit of both. That's what
I like.

Speaker 5 (02:05:26):
I want a little bit of everything. I do like
a fullback or an HVAC move guy. I can line
up with hand and dirt in a straight eye formation.
I don't get it why we've gotten rid of the
Tom Rathmans and the Lorenzo Nils of the world, but
it's the way sports is because guys want to spread
it out and everything the ability to throw it and
run from You can still run it with one back

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in the backfield, but it's almost as if the full back.

Speaker 4 (02:05:51):
It's not almost.

Speaker 5 (02:05:52):
They have devalued running backs completely in off season contracts,
and they have pushed the full back out hoping they
can get a third tied end that can do both,
and it's hurt teams in a run game at times.

Speaker 4 (02:06:05):
That loved.

Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
Some guys love having a fullback in front of them
and they run to daylight. So it's it's cyclical.

Speaker 4 (02:06:11):
At some point in.

Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
Time, fullbacks will be we'll read, we'll put them back here.
But we don't even do it in college for the
most part, you know, unless you're running an option or
once in a while Michigan Stanford's done it in the past.
They spread them out, so there's no guys even being
trained for the position. For the most part, it's usually
a tight end who's a little smaller that can move
and it becomes a problem. Let's get to one more
caller before we go, Tony. We'll get to you at

(02:06:34):
the top of the hour. Holly, what's on your mind?
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (02:06:37):
Good morning, guys.

Speaker 28 (02:06:38):
I just want to say the most first starting thing for.

Speaker 34 (02:06:41):
The Texans to me is Holliday looks so good driving
down the field and they get to the red zone
and they just peter out.

Speaker 7 (02:06:45):
I don't know how it.

Speaker 5 (02:06:46):
Happened too many times this year, Holly, Yeah, it's happened
too many times. It's happened too many times this year
their red zone.

Speaker 34 (02:06:52):
Oh and that's just now. I thought last night I
thought the same thing you did at halftime. I thought,
you know what, Detroit's going to come back, can win
this game. I told my husband the saying that tame
damn thing, and that other thing I just wanted to
mention is we had a chance to watch the end
of the Steelers Washington game yesterday and the Steelers are
very quietly seven and two, and I think they're gonna
be a sleeper team in the aft. And I thought

(02:07:13):
to myself, can the Texans beat this team.

Speaker 4 (02:07:17):
The hell of a point? Holly, thank you? Yeah, thank you,
great stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:07:22):
I had the same feeling because I've seen Detroit's movie
before and the Steelers are They're no longer sneaky.

Speaker 4 (02:07:29):
Their defense is nasty.

Speaker 5 (02:07:31):
They can run the football with Najie Harris, their playmakers
on the perimeter are making enough plays and doing the thing.
Mike Tomlin's a great football coach, and Russ Wilson's rejuvenated
his career.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
But who doesn't with Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 5 (02:07:42):
So all the flak Russ has given him, including us
about man he first year in Denver, they Seattle stole
that trade. The next year he got a little bit better,
but he and Sean Payton were not a mix, and
he and Mike Tomlin apparently are so that validates the
decision to go away from Justin Fields and put Russ
Wilson in. And he he's not trying to do too much.
He looks like a veteran that just says, I just

(02:08:03):
got to be a piece of the puzzle. I don't
need to be the celebrity and the big time piece
of the puzzle because he's no longer the best player
on their offense. But he's playing like a playoff winning quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:08:13):
He really is.

Speaker 5 (02:08:14):
It's good to see, all right, think break come on back.
Heading into the nine o'clock hour, it's rolling fast and furious.
The frustration of last night will continue to discuss what's
the fix? The offensive line performed better in pass protection?
What's missing in the second half? The step on the
throat and choke you out mentality when it comes to football,
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Still talking about the Texans loss, Let's talk to Tony. Tony,
what's happening?

Speaker 21 (02:11:37):
Good morning, guys. The Texans very predictable. I'm gonna go
with Holly, you know, at the half it's what what
were up? Twenty three to something? And I'm like, you know,
probably gonna lose this game. I'm not being you know,
I don't want to be totally negative about the Texans,
but there they should change their name. They should be
that the Houston halfs. They've gotten everything half right from

(02:12:01):
the very beginning. I'm not giving up on them. Man,
They're gonna be a good football team. But this is
just a good example right here of of why, like
Sean was saying about the full back, I mean, why,
why why don't we gotta try to reinvent you know,
you know, football has been football. You gotta run the football,
but you gotta you gotta put hat on the hat
and so and so on and so forth. But I'm

(02:12:23):
we we for we totally missed the fact that the
Rockets won a tough game yesterday in Detroit. We did
be the Detroit team yesterday. The Rockets won the games.
A good young team. They're they're they're exciting or fun
to watch. I'm I'm really really getting into the Rockets.
But what I really want to talk about is Veterans Day.
Tell to call a few callers back, and he said,

(02:12:45):
we need the v A needs to treat our veterans better.
And uh, I take umbrage with that, because the veterans,
the Veterans Administration saved my life, really did. I was
diagnosed with cancer on the twenty eight of October twenty
twenty two. Was was Game one of the World Series

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if anybody's listening that that works for the VA or not,

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or your wife or somebody works for the VA, thank
thank you, because they care about us, man, They really do.
They really did they care about us? And they get
a bad rap. They know what they know what the
veterans have done for this country. And I want to
say thank you to the to the Veterans administration and

(02:13:51):
for saving my life. They gave me a they gave
me a test that I took twice a year. You
know it's it's the colon colon test. It saved my life.
And they said you got to get in. They got
me in with it a month emergency surgery and and
they and they fixed me up. Man, They saved my life.

Speaker 6 (02:14:10):
And how are you now, Tony? How is your health?

Speaker 21 (02:14:13):
I'm I'm I'm okay. I'm okay man, I'm I'm uh.
I'm hanging there.

Speaker 4 (02:14:17):
Cancer free, buddy, I'm cancer free.

Speaker 21 (02:14:19):
No no, no, no chemo, no radiation, nothing. But I
prayed about that before I went in. I told the
young doctor and he was, young doctor, let's let's be honest. Uh,
the A can't they're not gonna have. But but they
trained with the doctors over it at Herman and stuff
over at the cancer hospital and and yes, yes, sir,
And so I told him before he before he even

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cut on me, I said, look, I know you're young,
but you're gonna save my life. God's gonna use you
to save my life. And he did, and when it
was done, he kind of looked at me like, what's
what's what's wrong with What's up with this guy?

Speaker 15 (02:14:57):
That's hut up for me? It's faith, brother, faith?

Speaker 4 (02:15:00):
What Tony?

Speaker 6 (02:15:01):
What branch were you in?

Speaker 21 (02:15:02):
I was in the Army to play baseball in the army. Actually,
I literally went the Army to play baseball nineteen eighty one.
I served for eight years from nineteen eighty one to
nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 4 (02:15:17):
Tony, great, call yeah, man, anything else you need to
share a brother?

Speaker 21 (02:15:21):
Uh No, I just uh, I just look, let's not
get too excited about the text. And it's frustrating. It's frustrating,
but it's it's just sports, guys, It's just sports. He's
just entertainment.

Speaker 9 (02:15:32):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (02:15:32):
We're gonna win a super Bowl. Eventually, Astill was won
a World Series. Going to World Series, I was. I've been.
I've been a Houston sports fans my whole life. Went
went to the to Oilers training camp nineteen sixty nine,
went to the last Oilers training camp in nineteen eight
and ninety six. I love the Houston I loved the

(02:15:53):
Houston Orders. I don't think I'll ever feel the same
way about the Texans. I My mom's carrying the Texans jersey. Okay,
I love she loved the Orders, she loved the Texans,
she loved she loved.

Speaker 7 (02:16:09):
The football team.

Speaker 21 (02:16:11):
But I was an Order fan.

Speaker 2 (02:16:12):
And it's to this day it's still.

Speaker 21 (02:16:15):
Harless me that they're gone.

Speaker 15 (02:16:17):
It should it should have never happened. It should have
never happened, should have never happened, but it did so.

Speaker 4 (02:16:24):
But keeping eye on those Rockets days, we are, yeah,
they are.

Speaker 21 (02:16:29):
They're exciting that they have a young coach. Uh, that's
that's putting his program together the way he wants to
put it together. And keeping on on the Rockets, man,
they're gonna be.

Speaker 9 (02:16:38):
Fun to watch.

Speaker 5 (02:16:39):
To Tony, thanks for sharing your amazing story, and uh, yeah,
the Rockets are a fun watch and we're excited to
watch their growth and coached by a really, really good
basketball man as well.

Speaker 4 (02:16:49):
It's a great story.

Speaker 5 (02:16:50):
It's uh and I'll take it, you know, I always
I know, I know another caller called and talked about
the v A somebody. Yeah, all you know today's those
are the reasons in sports. Yeah, I mean, that's why
we I mean this show. Those calls are changed the show. Yeah,
no question, I mean sports is awesome. We talk a
lot about it, but on a day of veterans, every

(02:17:13):
veteran that listens to this show, you're more than welcome
to calling here and share your story. We got plenty
of time to talk sports, for I have plenty of
time to criticize and compliment the Texans and their They
deserved both from last night. And they're six and four
and still it's nice.

Speaker 4 (02:17:27):
To have this feeling.

Speaker 5 (02:17:28):
Know one you can get out of it and still
be two games in front of the first place, and
you're gonna make the playoffs unless you decide to miss
the team bus. So they're gonna be fine. But Tony,
congratulations on your health. Great story, and God blessed the
VA for saving your life. So it's a good thing.
And when somebody's lived it, far be it for anybody,
anybody who hasn't not to know what the In Tony's case,
he got the right treatment and good good on him, a.

Speaker 6 (02:17:49):
Great surgery and to avoid chemo and radiation. So you know,
when my dad, my dad was a veteran. My dad
is a veteran, served in the Army, was in Vietnam.
My grandfather was in World War Two, was in Korea
and Vietnam.

Speaker 9 (02:18:02):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:18:02):
He's buried in Arlington National Cemetery, very high up in
the Army as well. When my dad was diagnosed with
lung cancer, he denied radiation and chemo and eventually it
you know, he he lost his life just a couple
months later after, you know, ten days after my mother
died on March tenth. Mom died March twentieth, Dad died.
I always wonder about, if, you know, if he would

(02:18:24):
have gone into the VA earlier in his life, but
he didn't. He never did. He never utilized those part
of the old school. He wasn't kind of right. And
I remember my sisters at one point, we're both you know,
kind of pushing my dad to just hey, check out
the VA, what what see what they got to offer,
and he never did. And uh, I guess I can't
speak on that because I'm not a veteran. I never

(02:18:45):
served in the military. But I always if that's there
for you utilize.

Speaker 4 (02:18:50):
It, well there you go. Yeah, it's a listen. This
show's reserved.

Speaker 5 (02:18:59):
This show's reserve for anybody who has a difference making
story or comment and all the fun and laughs we have.
But as much as I love sports, I'll take those
calls any day of the week.

Speaker 4 (02:19:09):
We got all day to break down c J. Strout.

Speaker 6 (02:19:11):
Yeah, and we'll talk about the technics as run games. Yeah,
and uh, Tony didn't mention the Rockets they won last night,
which has been in my headlines. Alprin she Goon twenty
seven and ten last night, another double double for the
Does he.

Speaker 4 (02:19:23):
Get the national attention he deserves now? It sure doesn't
feel like it does.

Speaker 9 (02:19:26):
No.

Speaker 6 (02:19:27):
You know what's crazy is there have been games last
year and already this year where he gets sat late
in games because there's one reason may Udoka doesn't like
on the defensive end.

Speaker 5 (02:19:37):
Yeah, it's a commitment to defense. I can tell you
this defense. He's a double double machine and a really
good player.

Speaker 6 (02:19:42):
He's averaging a double double so far the season.

Speaker 4 (02:19:45):
Herald stars in the league.

Speaker 6 (02:19:46):
Yeah, forty six percent from the field so far.

Speaker 4 (02:19:50):
Seventeen and eleven will win a lot of games.

Speaker 5 (02:19:51):
As long as you got a supporting cast running this
team's building something pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (02:19:55):
Yeah, are In she Goon, also known as to call
him spin Goon, spin Goon.

Speaker 4 (02:20:01):
And Alpie Alpy? Don't call him Alpie? Why not? I
don't know, just don't.

Speaker 6 (02:20:06):
What do you mean, just don't?

Speaker 4 (02:20:08):
And what else don't you call him? For late?

Speaker 6 (02:20:10):
For dinner or break? And that's why we're gonna get
out on time. Baby. We'll continue uh talking about the
Texans and well, uh, let's venture on over to college
football as well. Got some big upsets over the weekend.
Seven one three, two, one two five seven. I will
continue to take your calls next on Sports Talk seveninety.

Speaker 2 (02:20:28):
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Speaker 31 (02:20:40):
Seven Rudeed Blame was waiting for it America.

Speaker 6 (02:20:48):
Seven one two five seven nine. It's got to the
phone lines, Jeff, thank you for holding. Good morning, morning guys.

Speaker 8 (02:20:54):
I want you to break break your scribe. But do
you know any information about your grand father's service at
World War two Korea where he fought unit, anything at all?

Speaker 18 (02:21:05):
I would love to hear it.

Speaker 9 (02:21:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:21:06):
So, my grandfather was a sergeant first class in the
United States Army. He was in World War two Korea, Vietnam.
He was in the Army for almost thirty three years.
That's I don't know exactly where he was stationed, where
he fought. That's about the basis I never got to
I didn't have the pleasure of meeting. He died before
I was born, but he is born or he is
buried up in Arlington National Cemetery. He died back in

(02:21:30):
April of nineteen eighty two, so obviously I was not
born yet. But everything that I heard from my uncles,
my aunts, my dad's side of the family is a
big Italian family. He was unbelievable, very strong, passionate Italian
guy and dedicated his life to the US Army.

Speaker 8 (02:21:47):
Those are the type of guys that keep you on
ampiratry officers heads at a draft and keep them around
for a little bit longer. They make things go, They
make everything happen.

Speaker 5 (02:21:59):
Amen, thanks for the call. Appreciate you as always. Jeff,
thank you. He cares about that stuff. I like it
talking to John.

Speaker 4 (02:22:06):
Steff always cares about family.

Speaker 6 (02:22:07):
I like that, John. What's happening?

Speaker 7 (02:22:10):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (02:22:10):
Man?

Speaker 35 (02:22:11):
You know what, dude, I don't even want to talk
about sports right now. What I want to talk about
is God bless America.

Speaker 9 (02:22:16):
Man.

Speaker 15 (02:22:17):
How great today is and how blessed we are to have.

Speaker 35 (02:22:22):
Music in our archive from people like Ray Charles, Toby
Keith and stuff. Those are monumental songs that will go
down in history. I'm glad they got on tape before
we lost a people.

Speaker 4 (02:22:33):
Hey, John, were you you listening in when Ray Charles
was singing?

Speaker 15 (02:22:37):
Absolutely?

Speaker 18 (02:22:39):
Tell me.

Speaker 4 (02:22:40):
I want to know what you thought when you were
hearing him sing.

Speaker 35 (02:22:43):
Let me tell you something, man, every time I hear
that song, brother, I get chills every time I hear
that song, And you're one hundred percent right. I would
rather nobody say nothing while we listen to that song
right there right. You know this is sports talking, but
today's a special day. And thank you for taking that
little bit of break and letting that chorus play through. Because, man,

(02:23:05):
let me tell you something, man, that that's right up
there with the Whitney Houston National.

Speaker 4 (02:23:09):
Anthem and that yep cheer.

Speaker 5 (02:23:12):
It gives you the chills and cheers to our great
military and our veterans. And yes, man, it sure does
give you the chills. It doesn't matter when you hear it,
especially on a day like this, John, thanks for the call, man,
appreciate it sure do joh. I love our military. I
do absolutely freaking love them. Love them your father, love
him Army eighty.

Speaker 4 (02:23:33):
Second Airborne, yep. So, But I just they're so I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:23:38):
One day doesn't seem like enough. I sure hope that
we feel this way about them every day.

Speaker 9 (02:23:43):
I do.

Speaker 5 (02:23:46):
It's got to be lonely for them at times, you know,
especially if they've gone through some difficult times and lost
friends and wars and some of the toughest people, tough minded, physically, mentally,
emotionally andy.

Speaker 4 (02:23:58):
I don't know. I just they move me, and they
do every day. We just get reminded by it on
certain holidays. But I don't know. I just feel like
we own more than a month, are open more than
own more than a day. And I just hope they're
on our mind all the time because I can guarant
ask to you you want a phone call and go,
you want to go serve? Hell no, yeah, need to

(02:24:21):
do I no.

Speaker 5 (02:24:22):
So whenever, whenever we get to the point where we
you know, some people don't celebrate it enough or talk
trash about the flag and all that kind of stuff,
I ask you this, you want to you want to
go do what they did?

Speaker 4 (02:24:34):
And what they do. Yeah, I don't. I didn't think so,
neither do I.

Speaker 5 (02:24:38):
So it's it's the least we can do is let
songs play and let people talk about stuff. And I'm
sure frustration. Well, we'll talk frustration and confidence about the
Texans tomorrow and the next day and the next day
and the next day and the next day.

Speaker 4 (02:24:52):
And today we've hit it. We've hit it deep, and
we'll continue to deep.

Speaker 5 (02:24:56):
But I can tell you this, I ain't never taken
the mic away from a veteran or somebody who loves
our military and they got something to share.

Speaker 4 (02:25:02):
Period.

Speaker 6 (02:25:04):
Yesterday two hundred and forty ninth birthday for the United
States Marine Corps, day before Veterans Day. Pretty uh, I'll
say it again.

Speaker 4 (02:25:13):
You want to go? Do you want to stand there
and be deployed?

Speaker 9 (02:25:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:25:16):
No, no me either.

Speaker 9 (02:25:19):
No.

Speaker 6 (02:25:19):
Let's talk to kJ. It looks like he's a veteran.

Speaker 15 (02:25:21):
kJ.

Speaker 6 (02:25:22):
What's happened?

Speaker 9 (02:25:23):
What's going on? Fellas again, I'm going to Tigre a
few weeks ago talking to you, shout out about Henry
retirements and those guys.

Speaker 4 (02:25:30):
I told you, my brother, absolutely, my man, how you doing?

Speaker 11 (02:25:35):
Not too bad?

Speaker 9 (02:25:36):
Bos, It's not too bad. I myself. I'm a veteran
here call back in the early nineties. And again, first
of all, first and foremo shout out to my feller
brothers at home. The ones that are widdos are the
ones that are no longer widow. With that said, I
want to give us a perspective from an American standpoint.

(02:25:57):
America has the potential to be the best country on
this play, but she does have her walks. I bought
my uniform of pry out. I served my country with pride. Yeah,
I still feel like I'm a second hand citizen a
time because of untiling my skin. So in acknowledging the country,
we can't be dismissive. And I'm not saying you guys
are I'm not saying you guys are it off, But

(02:26:18):
we can't be dismissive of the fact that we still
have a long way to go as a nation. And
until we acknowledge that and continue to put one foot
in front of the other, we will continue to see
the underbelow of the country in addition to the beauty
that it presents up on the day to day babers.
But that said, shout out to my Philistodians and all.
Shout out to the tensions, shout out to the Astros,
shout out to the Rockets and America abuse.

Speaker 5 (02:26:40):
Thanks Kja ja KG. You never have to apologize. We
know you weren't talking to this because I think you
have a pretty good idea how we feel about a
little bit of everything when it comes to society and
life and cultural and race differences in religion and military
and voting and all that.

Speaker 4 (02:26:55):
I think you know how we feel. But you're one
hundred percent correct.

Speaker 5 (02:26:58):
And if one person who's African American feels the way
you do, that is a veteran that served this country,
then you deserve to be heard as well.

Speaker 4 (02:27:06):
There's no question about it. Everybody does.

Speaker 5 (02:27:10):
And we are two years in one mouth and use
them accordingly. Because I've not walked in your shoes. You
know a lot of people who have. I'm not walked
in your shoes. And if that's if that's on your
mind heavy today, I hope you find the peace that
you deserve in your damn right. You deserve to be
treated not only for your service. Skin color notwithstanding is

(02:27:31):
my point.

Speaker 6 (02:27:31):
Does not matter.

Speaker 4 (02:27:32):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (02:27:33):
Yeah, let's let's get the break happy Veterans Day, taking
some time to recognize all of our men and women
of the military, all branches that have served currently past,
and that are no longer with us. This day is
for you.

Speaker 5 (02:27:47):
Army undefeated. By the way, the Scarlet Knights, I don't care.
They keep winning and let's keep going.

Speaker 6 (02:27:57):
Hey, let's do this. Also, Ashton he two nd two
o seven over the weekend. Give him the Heisman already.

Speaker 4 (02:28:04):
Remember I told you really he needed two hundred games.
Got it too well?

Speaker 5 (02:28:08):
He lost to Carson Beck was out of it a
long time ago. Dylan Gabriel Hunter, Do you see this
little hit screen he took to the house for a touchdown?

Speaker 6 (02:28:17):
Yeah, he's pretty good too.

Speaker 5 (02:28:18):
And also, you know what, it has to be a
great year to give it to gent It really would
running back at a Boise State that's not at Alabama
or Oklahoma or so col Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (02:28:27):
And I'm going to give I'm going to give a
college football program the credit it deserves. After this break Soul,
Raw State, how'd we do? Did we beat Central Washington?

Speaker 4 (02:28:38):
We'll go to break, Yeah, go back and share in
the industry. Yeah, so we call it.

Speaker 6 (02:28:43):
Yeah, let's get to break that's next. On Sports Talk
seven eighty.

Speaker 2 (02:28:48):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, Then didn't didn't I.

Speaker 4 (02:28:54):
See where It's like if she played somebody else's music
it bothered him.

Speaker 6 (02:28:57):
Yeah he got he rated her. Yeah, yeah, he got
super pissed off at her for playing Morgan Walling.

Speaker 9 (02:29:03):
What a what?

Speaker 4 (02:29:05):
There's got to be other things to mean his music complain.

Speaker 6 (02:29:07):
About it anyways.

Speaker 4 (02:29:08):
I really don't know. I mean, I know a couple of.

Speaker 6 (02:29:10):
His w besides the one that we just heard. It
is whiny bs.

Speaker 4 (02:29:15):
I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (02:29:18):
Any kind of is he kind of new to the
play right at a little younger. I've heard a couple
of his songs. I mean, I'm close, you know, I
follow a lot of country in Western but he's a
I mean fine, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:29:30):
So she's listening to different music.

Speaker 5 (02:29:31):
So you're not allowed to watch another football game if
you date Patrick Mahall, if you're married to Patrick Mahome,
does she allowed to watch.

Speaker 4 (02:29:35):
Sunday night football and they're not playing? I know they
play a lot of practice, but it's just like, there's
got to be other things to complain or not.

Speaker 5 (02:29:44):
For Zach Brian, a little piece would help I don't know.
I just don't understand that. Yeah, I don't. But then again,
I'm not Zach Bryant and I'm not her and she's
out of the relationship though, right, Well, good on her.

Speaker 6 (02:29:57):
If it's she said no to a twelve million dollar NBA,
well be twelve dollars if you said that.

Speaker 4 (02:30:03):
That's somebody who stands on on moral business.

Speaker 6 (02:30:07):
Good food for her.

Speaker 4 (02:30:09):
You don't need to be berated for listening to somebody
else's music in your own home. Yeah. No, sorry, it's awful.

Speaker 6 (02:30:15):
Oh it's terrible. Uh seven seventy team portnoy on this one, right, Yeah, exactly,
Yeah for this one, Yeah for sure, Jay, Good morning, Sean.

Speaker 10 (02:30:26):
How do you throw five intercessions and still win a game?

Speaker 5 (02:30:33):
I don't know, because I think every quarterback has ever
lived is thrown three, four, three or four of them.

Speaker 7 (02:30:37):
I know my time.

Speaker 5 (02:30:38):
The one time in my life I threw four, we
didn't win. We took an ass whooping, and it was
all on me because it wouldn't have mattered if I
was standing four feet in front of me. I found
a way not to hit him. And the throws that
were difficult to make, I made you this one of
those days. Man, We're like, you know what, that guy
was open and I just quite couldn't go. Yeah, I've
been there and we got our ass handed to us.
So I don't know how you turn it over five times,

(02:31:01):
you're on the road, you're down fifteen.

Speaker 4 (02:31:05):
Well, we haven't seen it since nineteen seventy. So there
you go.

Speaker 9 (02:31:09):
You go.

Speaker 5 (02:31:09):
It doesn't happen, brother, but once in a while, and
it takes decades not to happen.

Speaker 4 (02:31:15):
Now, Sean, should I be worried about next Monday Night?

Speaker 10 (02:31:19):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:31:19):
I think that anytime a team's been humiliated, like the
we're talking about the Cowboys, right, Jay, anytime a team's
been humiliated. I remember on this show when the Jets
and the Texans were getting ready to play.

Speaker 4 (02:31:34):
What did I say? I said, New England humiliated the Jets.

Speaker 5 (02:31:37):
Be alert the next week for the Jets, And we
also talked about a new on a show yesterday. The
New Orleans Saints had a new coach and interim coach.
Yesterday right different energy. What happened? They beat the first
place Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 4 (02:31:49):
Right see, So if you're a Texans fan, there's far
superior football team, far better talent, far I mean everything
says Texans.

Speaker 5 (02:31:59):
Texans, Texans. I believe they're going to win the football game.
But I know this han't been in and been embarrassed
a week before the next week. There's an attention to
detail or focus that you zoom in on the Cowboys
through for thirty five yards. The Cowboys have been in
embarrassment for weeks now, so and it's in state. Of course,
there's a chance that the Cowboys can win. If the
Texans play their best football or close, they're not going

(02:32:21):
to lose the game. But I'm going to tell you,
I mean they should go in there and beat them down, right.
But these games, these games are games are dangerous because
teams that have been humiliated number of times got two choices.
He can eat it and maybe they folded up their
tent and gone home. They may very well have, but
if they haven't, embarrassment can bring out a lot, and

(02:32:42):
humiliation in front of your fans can bring out a lot.
And hanging around in a football game, and they have
no business hanging around the Texans in the game.

Speaker 4 (02:32:51):
If you both play good football.

Speaker 6 (02:32:54):
All right, John, appreciate you, Jake.

Speaker 5 (02:32:57):
I hope I hope that I hope It's a good game,
but I hope the Texans take care of their business
away they're supposed to on both sizes the ball. I
don't know how the Cowboys offense is going to move
a Jay, thank you, brother. I don't know how the
Cowboys offense is going to move the ball against Texas.

Speaker 6 (02:33:10):
I really don't Cooper our quarterback. That's how thirty five yards?
Thank god they're playing Monday night football. I don't have
to worry about the sun.

Speaker 4 (02:33:19):
What do you think about?

Speaker 20 (02:33:20):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:33:22):
You may see both quarterbacks and maybe I'm that serious
about you may you may very well.

Speaker 4 (02:33:28):
You may very well see that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:30):
Wow, ridiculous Drew, Good morning, Hey, Good.

Speaker 36 (02:33:35):
Morning Philas, Good morning Houston. Appreciate y'all having me on.
Wanting to get in and talk about the Texans. Uh,
this is something a problem I.

Speaker 15 (02:33:43):
Saw last night is a problem.

Speaker 21 (02:33:44):
I thought.

Speaker 15 (02:33:47):
This offense is not able.

Speaker 36 (02:33:49):
To capitalize off the turnovers and that's burned us in
the Green Bay game. Uh, and it burned us again
last night.

Speaker 7 (02:33:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 36 (02:33:59):
I don't know what needs to change or what needs.

Speaker 15 (02:34:01):
To be fixed, but they're the clear issue.

Speaker 36 (02:34:03):
When you put I think we scored like ten points
in the second half through like six games.

Speaker 6 (02:34:09):
Fifteen points in the last month. Jay in the second half,
excuse me, drew in the last second half in the
second half.

Speaker 36 (02:34:17):
Unacceptable, unacceptable And I ain't gonna lie that that offense.
Every member of this should be a shamed and I
and I'm of the firm belief. But when we get
to week twelve, you know, you in that week in
the twelve range, you kind of already know what's eve
you are. I don't know what you're gonna do differently
in these next seven weeks that you could have fixed

(02:34:39):
in the past nine or ten. So this is this
is concerning. But hey, maybe we just maybe maybe uh
we the expectations was too high. I was, I was
see contender, but this looks more like somebody that's gonna
get bounced in the first or in the first round.
So I I'm not completely given up, but hey, when

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you get late in the season, it's like that one
coach that said they are who they are, they are
who we thought they were, So hopefully I'm wrong, but
it's getting it's getting a little late in the game
to turn this thing completely around, and it needs to
be Yet, Sean, I'd like to like to kind of
gig your thoughts on that for sure, to have you on.

Speaker 4 (02:35:24):
Yeah, I'm a big believer at this time, Drew. Now,
I do believe you can make some changes and get
better and do some things. And protecting the football it's
the oldest thing in sports, right Yet the one time
you say protect the football, you turn it over a
couple times. The other team turned it over more than
you and they still beat you. So something was missing
obviously that they just have not been able to be
a really good, let alone average second half team. Everybody

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hangs around, but two one loss, one win this year
where they've either been blown out or they blew out
the New England Patriots. And I uh, I'm with you
one hundred percent at this stage of the game.

Speaker 5 (02:36:00):
I know what your MO is. I know what your
team's identity is. The problem with the Texans. The identity
of the Texans this year, you know what. It's been
poor protection on the offensive line and that's not the
way you want it. They gave up some sacks last night,
but I thought they played better in pass protection and
let CJ set his feet.

Speaker 9 (02:36:18):
The other.

Speaker 5 (02:36:20):
The other MO and Slash, I say identity, they have
has now become Joe Mixon, right, and Mixon lives up
to that every friggin day. Even though the only average
yard garry, he still made an impact with the big run,
the touchdown and the things he did last night. But
you do not want your identity to be can't close

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and right now that's the last handful of games. That's
exactly who they've become, and ten games in you don't
have much time to get it fixed. You're fortunate that
you do, and you got a two game lead, but
you can't. And He's right, they will get bounced. To me,
if you run into Baltimore in the first round of
the playoffs and play like that for sixty minutes, it'll
be over and it won't be close.

Speaker 4 (02:37:03):
So you got it. They're talented as hell, even with injuries,
they're talented. Yeah, I mean, Will.

Speaker 5 (02:37:08):
Anderson has played as good as anybody on defense, and
we know what Nico Collins brings to the table. You
can see that their bandwidth was big last night. I
just don't understand why you allow it to. There's this
sense of letting teams hang around, letting an average team
hang around in the fourth quarter they beat you or
at least give you a put a little stress on you.
Let a good team hang around in the fourth quarter. Oh,

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they will beat you. And Detroit last night looked like
a old Detroit Lions the first fifteen minutes of the
or thirty minutes of the game, and they look like
they'll be playing in February. The last thirty minutes, you
did good teams. There's a mentality, and I'm just telling
you Ben Johnson's mentality is different.

Speaker 6 (02:37:49):
Yeah, it's different. Yeah, it feels like for Ben Johnson
it's balls to the wall all game long, lead or
lead or behind. Yeah, it doesn't matter if they're up
by forty five.

Speaker 5 (02:38:00):
Detroit's gonna milk all that they can because guess what,
he's gonna be head coached somewhere next year. He's not
going to turn down that job this time around, right
because his his it's it's gonna be an all time
height for him as a coordinator. He's gonna whatever he wants. Dude,
if job's open, he's gonna get interviewed.

Speaker 6 (02:38:15):
I read a thread this morning of a Chicago Bears
like podcast hosts for Locked on Bears or whatever it was,
and they're already calling for was it Eberflus.

Speaker 4 (02:38:27):
Yeah, well he's a fired he's a lame duck.

Speaker 5 (02:38:30):
I think I'm gonna tell you another thing about Ben Johnson. Now, uh,
the greatest thing that could happen for Caleb Williams.

Speaker 6 (02:38:37):
Is Ben Johnson. Yes, sir, h real quick, my sore
raw state Lobos.

Speaker 4 (02:38:44):
How'd you guys do this week?

Speaker 6 (02:38:45):
Not good?

Speaker 4 (02:38:45):
And want to talk about it?

Speaker 6 (02:38:47):
They gotta beat sixty six to nothing. We can't go
to the Pine, now, no, we can't. They they traveled
up to central Washington and got their ass whooped a
sixty six to nothing.

Speaker 5 (02:39:00):
A tough place to play up there in the Northwest
doing playing in the Northwest, good pools. If you better
let your fools know, they better recognize this big boy football.

Speaker 4 (02:39:12):
Welcome to Welcome to.

Speaker 6 (02:39:13):
The lone Star Conference.

Speaker 4 (02:39:14):
Bab damned right. That's that's just welcome you to the
golf course today. You ready?

Speaker 6 (02:39:21):
And also got to give credit where credits due. Colorado.
I didn't think they'd be any good this year. They are.
They're pretty good. Control their own destiny right there on
the big twelve times.

Speaker 4 (02:39:31):
Talk about this.

Speaker 5 (02:39:33):
Give it, hey, Dion's done a hell of it, and
you know a lot of it we thought was pomp
and circle. I mean people thought pomp and circumstances. You know,
it gets people there and his and has kind of
disrupted the flow at the universe in color and in
college football.

Speaker 4 (02:39:45):
He just did. And what's a good thing.

Speaker 5 (02:39:47):
They needed that. It was a I mean, he was
a lightning rod for it. But their team wasn't physical.
They went and got better players. There's still another level
to it. But he's got the x's and o's why wise,
and he hired a hell of some pretty good distance.

Speaker 4 (02:40:00):
This time around. I'm just telling you they can.

Speaker 5 (02:40:03):
The key is can they hold up against somebody who
can score on them when it matters? But they are
I think they're in control of their own destiny, which
is impressive, and it makes it easier or at least
more feasible if you're in the hunt to give Hunter
the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 6 (02:40:18):
I also saw that the bye week beat USC over
the weekend. Crazy we we had. We struggled in the
bye week forty five to twenty. We struggle, well, defense
can't even stop the bye week.

Speaker 5 (02:40:27):
Well, we scored a few points, but it has been
par for the course under our university, even by scores
forty five on us.

Speaker 6 (02:40:34):
It's bad. Let's get to the final segment of the show.
On a Monday edition of the Shawn Salz Ratiow, let.

Speaker 2 (02:40:43):
The celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:40:50):
We got We got Hall of Famer Dick LAbau on
the horn, Tripoli, Yes, sir, let's go.

Speaker 4 (02:40:55):
What a treat this is.

Speaker 5 (02:40:56):
You know, it's the first time I've ever had a
chance to interview In all my media life. I've watched
when a player I played against him as a quarterback
and it's never fun.

Speaker 4 (02:41:04):
And now getting the interview and it's awesome.

Speaker 6 (02:41:06):
Pro Football Hall of Fame member and mastermind behind the
Revolutionary Zone Blitz defense, Dick Lebau going to join the show.

Speaker 4 (02:41:13):
Yeah, coach Lebau. Sean Salisbury here, it's great to have
you on, sir, and always good to talk to you.
And we're going to get to your book in a second.
And I contend this as a player and as a coach,
that very few have combined to do both better you
and the Hall of Fame as a player. And let
me ask you, let me start with this, coach, why

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don't we with all the work you assistants and defensive
coordinators and position coaches. Why don't we have assistant coaches
in the Hall of Fame? Is he punched up? Is
coach lebou there? Coach you there?

Speaker 6 (02:41:53):
Trivalie, can you give us a little help on that side?
Maybe got a little technical difficulties, but yeah, he was
punched up, ready to go. He is going to be
uh talking about obviously today's NFL, but then Sean will
get with him on some of the legendary seasons he
had as a coach for the blitzberg.

Speaker 4 (02:42:09):
Yeah. Remember, he's the architect, the guy.

Speaker 5 (02:42:12):
I mean when you talk about building your house, there's
from top to bottom of the zone blitz. To describe
that before coach gets back on, it's when you see
a defensive lineman, just give you who are a defensive
end who's all of a sudden they show blitz, the
defensive guy drops back into the area and they're bringing
somebody else. Yeah, he is the architect for the zone
blitz and one of the very, very best of all. Well,

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he's the architect in as good as we've ever had.

Speaker 4 (02:42:35):
It coaching it.

Speaker 6 (02:42:35):
He was enshrined to the Hall of Pro Football Hall
of Fame in twenty ten, after his playing career, he's
going to be talking about his book.

Speaker 4 (02:42:41):
The Legendary.

Speaker 5 (02:42:41):
If we had his coach Lebo there, if we had
if we had Hall of Famers coach, did you hear
my question?

Speaker 4 (02:42:48):
It's Sean Salisberg. How you doing, sir?

Speaker 18 (02:42:52):
I'm doing well, Sean. I did not hear it.

Speaker 4 (02:42:54):
Oh, okay, Yeah, it's good. Good to have you on.

Speaker 5 (02:42:56):
I said that, you know, as a guy who grew
up watching you play as a quarterback in the NFL,
playing against you in a broadcast career, then as a
player who's in the Hall of Fame, and as a
coordinator defensive coach, all the great things you've done, we
may not have had a better guy that belongs in
the Hall of Fame in both. And so my question was,
why don't we, with all the work you put in, coach,

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why don't we have assistant coaches in the Hall of Fame?
Do you guys ever talk about that?

Speaker 18 (02:43:24):
No? No, I went in in two thousand and ten.

Speaker 4 (02:43:31):
Right as a player, and.

Speaker 18 (02:43:34):
Yeah, and everything that I did was the statistics and
everything was compiled in a fourteen year career from fifty
nine to seventy two.

Speaker 9 (02:43:47):
So I can.

Speaker 18 (02:43:49):
Remember going through my life every now and then saying, well,
my statistics were as good as some of the guys
that are in there. But there's so many people that
really have great careers, and each year there's more of
them to retire who have great career with great statistics,

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and they can only put so many in there. And
I never felt like I was the type of guy
that would be walking around saying, hey, man, I should
be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (02:44:21):
You don't have to, We'll say that for it.

Speaker 37 (02:44:24):
Yeah, we'll see the pretty large hat side to be
talking like that. So I've benefited from that. Actually, there
is an avenue now for everyone connected with the game
to get in there, as you've got owners coming in
now and general managers are making it and the Hall
of Fame has really rectified that dead end that they

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had for assistant coaches, and there will be some get in.

Speaker 18 (02:44:52):
There, I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (02:44:53):
Yeah, absolutely, And if you weren't already in as a player,
you would be at the top of the list with
a lot of the Tom mooreries of the world and
the great assistant coach. And I've been pining for this
for two decades because all the work you do, and
the head coach gets the credit and I get it.
But all the work you put in and we're going
to get to the zone blitz here and your book
in a second, coach, you obviously have been following football
and covering it and talking about it and teaching it

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and playing it for.

Speaker 4 (02:45:17):
So many decades. How do you feel about today's game?

Speaker 5 (02:45:20):
Well, what do you give me one thing you like
and one thing you don't about the current state of football?

Speaker 18 (02:45:28):
Well, you know the old guys, they always say they
are back in my day. You know, I'm not one
of those kind of Peopleful I played in my era,
and I coached in that era, and now it's somebody
else's turn. I enjoy today's game. I look forward to

(02:45:50):
each season. I watch as much football as I possibly can.
It's in my blood, of course, as I had fifty
nine consecutive seasons in the National Football League, fourteen as
a player, in forty five as a coach. So you're
not going to retire and say I'm done with that.
It's going to be with you for the rest of

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your life. I think the game has ever bit as
exciting and entertaining as it was, But it's a very
very different game, and do I care for it as
much as the one that I played. Probably not all
the guys that I played with the same thing. But

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I think that's just a normal situation of all of
us who lived in our era and now somebody else
has turned. They certainly are financially a success with the
salaries that the players are making, and I don't be
grudging at all, and everything is going all the word

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en up with trend as I say. If I were king,
as they say, I would change a few why the
games played. But I was a defensive guy all the way.

Speaker 5 (02:47:08):
That's the voice of Dick Lebeaux, Hall of Famer Dick
lebow and in my mind, one of the great defensive
coordinators and coaches and teachers we've ever had in the
National Football League. As he joins us, sorry, coach, your
book legendary, which is going to be a phenomenal read.
And I was trying to explain before you came on
the you know some of the just the nuances of
his own blitz, and nobody you are the architect. Nobody

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taught it better and now it's used all over the league.
And as a quarterback, we didn't read defensive lineman drop
it into our coverage and we're trying to throw a
hotter a side adjustment. So how did this, well, the
book come about, but how did your your thoughts on
the zone blitz that became blitzberg and so special.

Speaker 4 (02:47:46):
How did that originate with you? Where did that start?

Speaker 18 (02:47:51):
Well, coach and defense, because, uh, you know the able
saying necessity is the mother of invention. Uh, Bill Walsh
in the in the West Coast passing offenses quick release
and Don Corriel who's throwing all over Jim Jones with
a run and shoot, and these new concepts are throwing

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the ball all over the field, not huddling half the time.
They were blitzing the league and they were just a
step ahead of the defense. And really of the history
of the games is as it has evolved, it's been
the system where the offense, who gets to call the play,
they know who's carrying that, and they know who's throwing it,

(02:48:35):
who they're going to be throwing it at, they know
the snap count. The offense has that Advantag's just just
the way the game is played and the defense have
to figure out it's a stimulus response game. So I
think if you trace the history of the league, you
can see where the game has evolved in the more
wide open, higher scoring, bigger yardage plays. And they they

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had the walls. I think was probably the first guy
to come up with the reads. And they had come
up with a way to keep the pressure off the
quarterback by breaking off routes and throwing to empty space
and leading the guy into the area that created big
plates for the offense. And in looking at it and

(02:49:20):
studying it and figuring out I was in charge with
the job of restricting the game of those plays and
really stopping that system. And it was an evolution. I thought, well,
what if when they broke off from who was blitzing
from us into an area that they could lead the

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ball as far as they wanted to and right away
from the coverage, they were going to be successful. So
I looked at areas where I could still blitz and
overload the protection and have success with pressure on the
court it back, but still not exposed one guy that
have to be covering their best receiver all over the

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field with no help. So it was an area of
defensing behind the pressure up on front. And Bobby Knight
and I were good friends and Bobby Knight was great
basketball coach. He won a fantastic amount of basketball games.
We believed in pressure on the ball, and once you
believed that, you had to try to figure out the

(02:50:28):
best way to do it. And that's all that I
was doing, was looking for the safest, best way to
put pressure on the quarterback where he just doesn't go
out there and throw the ball all over the field
and score fifty points on you.

Speaker 10 (02:50:40):
So that was the.

Speaker 18 (02:50:43):
Problem, and I would say that sometimes we went down
the wall road and searching for the solution. I can't
tell you how many diamond boards I went off into
an empty pool, my friend. But I did it on
the practice field the time that I have tried it
on in the game, it was ready to go, and

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we had the advantage of being the first ones. And
so it was really dramatically successful in the early years
because the offenses hadn't seen it, and in much the
same as us with the new stuff that the offense
does with the motion in the shift in the sign
and counsel and whatever they do to confuse us. I
was just trying to level the playing field up a

(02:51:26):
little bit and let my guys attack and confuse the
offensive players.

Speaker 4 (02:51:31):
Well, nobody has done it better as a defensive coordinator
in the history of this game.

Speaker 5 (02:51:34):
The book is legendary. It's Dick Lebow, Hall of Fame
player and in my mind, hall of Fame coach. If
we had him in there as assistants, nobody's done a better.

Speaker 4 (02:51:42):
Coach.

Speaker 5 (02:51:43):
I know you've got a busy schedule talking to a
lot of people. I can't thank you enough and I'd
love to have you on again. Spend an hour talking
ex's and o's. It's intriguing and if you want to
know about zone blitz and how it was applied, this
is the man architect, Dick Lebow, Hall of Famer coach.
Thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 18 (02:52:00):
Thank you, Sean.

Speaker 4 (02:52:02):
It's always an honor to talk to you too, sir,
Thank you very much. Brian.

Speaker 5 (02:52:05):
He is a that's his own blitz and when do
you hear it all the time? That's where it started
and it also helps a coach. Lebou had good players,
but he put him in position to be Successuy. Awesome
to see in Pittsburgh's winning again.

Speaker 6 (02:52:17):
Yep, they've won four straight. That is that was Dick Lebow.
That If you missed that interview, it's going to be
up on our blog after the show at Sports seven
ninety dot com. Uh, look for his book Legendary. It's
a Hall of Famer Dick Labo that's going to do
it for the SHN Salisbury Show. He is Sean Salisbury,
our producer of Triple E, Manuel Elmore I and Brian
li Lima. Thank you for listening. We're back tomorrow morning
at six am. Coming up next, The Matt Thomas Show
with Ross right here on seven ninety