December 2, 2024 • 15 mins
Wrapping up Week 13 across the NFL, the Texans cruise by the Jacksonville Jaguars yesterday afternoon with a final score of 23-20 now putting Houston at a standing 8-5. Rolling into Week 14 and being one of the first camps to start practice followed by one of the first teams to kickoff the 2024 season, the Texans have finally arrived at their Bye Week. Taking care of Jacksonville and pulling away with the win, some argue that the Texans haven't secured a legit win following in the second half, teams began to creep back into the game making the end of games a bit nerve-racking. Looking ahead at the difficulty of the schedule after the Bye Week, can the Texans be considered just an average team as we inch closer and closer to the postseason?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Soulsbrey Oy. Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury, the USC Truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Rockets take down the Oklahoma City Thunder. Texans beat the Jaguars.
University of Texas takes down Texas A and m Sean triplee.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Good morning, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hope you guys had a fantastic holiday, good Thanksgiving, good food.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good fun, good football. So much to cover, a lot
to cover and take it notes on a week? Okay,
was this this game? I mean just constant because coaching
decisions some of the experts aren't really experts, don't have
expertise in like clock management and win and win not
to go for it right? Yeah, NFLA in college stung
(00:58):
a little bit here. I would imagine in Edge Station two.
We'll get to it. But I noticed I always try
to pick out somebody you don't put enough respect on,
and you do not put in your respect or at
least enough on Sea Low Green?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Why is it green this morning? Random? Was he? What
is he one of the original voice? Guys? The voice?
Wasn't he one of the.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Original But I don't know him as se Lo Green?
What is his day, Tripley? You know who Green is?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, what is his We're trying to figure it out,
and I could I try to figure it out this morning.
I can't What was his name before se low Green?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
What did he call it? What was his name? Remember
that's the only name. What was the name?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'll look it up, man, But anyway, you don't put
enough I know, we got a lot to well, you
can look it up, Tripley if you get a chance,
because I gotta get I'm going off on some people today.
Uh see low Green? But what what what happened? You
don't put enough respect? I mean normally you'll put respect
on a lot of people. You get no respect to Selo.
Really it hurts. Actually she was on my mind this morning.
(02:05):
Did you hear a song of his on the way in?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Or yeah? Doesn't he sing are you just every Christmas?
To me? Or to you are very merry? Is that
one of his Christmas cuts? Yeah? I think so?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And I just yeah it was? That was it was?
You know Selo's part of.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
A jam Selo's by jam Dog.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
What was his name? Though? We look that up?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Tripley, I don't have computer. I got my phone, but
figure you could look up what his other name was,
Green's original original name, page name or whatever it is.
That sounds like a stripper, but you don't put enough
respect on him. So I just wanted to let people know.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
That Thomas de Carlo Callaway, No, he had another man
stage name.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't remember what it was. Man it was regardless,
it's not a big deal. But Selo dude, Yeah, sometime
maybe go on the way home feeling guilty and listen
to one of his cuts.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Would you do that in your playlist? No? Why not?
I'm not putting Selo Green on Narls Barkley. Yeah, no,
on these nuts. Okay, I feel that's his real name though, Yeah,
I mean no, that was Yeah, God is stupid. You
(03:24):
said six O three. I said, I'm gonna try to
get that in its Narls Barkley. Okay, yeah, yeah, you're
right on that one. What did I say?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, But it goes back to that he doesn't put
it up respect on Selo Triple. He just doesn't. So
I wanted to let him know this morning. That's just
the wrong way to approach your Monday. Hey, I don't
know where to start. Yeah, where do you want to start?
You want to start with the Barkley not to be
confused with Narls Barkley. Okay, you ain't got guys any good.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You think Josh Allen's any good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And you think the four nine ers were reeling to locally?
You tell me where would you like to start A
and m excuse me, well, in Texas or right here
with the Texans.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Texans? So I think it's the Texans, and I think
yesterday obviously they were fortunate.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm not sure if mac Jones doesn't start that game.
It's about that was a cheap and that's what's going
to be talked about.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And you know, I think Al Shaire's a I was
on a show another show last week and they're talking
to me about certain players. I said, let me tell
you something now that you know getting there's an attitude.
If it broke out, we talked about it, it broke out.
I mean, I'll take that guy. I mean he he
wants to fight everybody, hit everything that's moving. But what
he did yesterday was cheap and it was weak. That's
(04:44):
there's a difference in playing good physical heart. Listen, I
come from the school let it rip and beg forgiveness
rather than ask permission on good, clean hits. That wasn't
good and it wasn't clean. And I'm not that oh
you know, well, you know, high and mighty, how dare him?
I understand the game games physical. He could have controlled that.
You know, they'll be the what if he fake slides? Well,
(05:05):
when they go feet first, you gotta just you got
to lay off, you just do. And then he went
high and then he threw his shoulder in a forearm.
It was just it wasn't good. And we will get
to that. But I'm going to tell you what. The
Texans are a very average football team. They are now
in winning. You'll take the win. We always They're hard
to come by and hopefully Trevor Lawrence is going to
(05:26):
be just fine. But that ball moved Mac Jones moved
that ball up and down the field that game yesterday.
It was accurate, and they got down and then they
found a way to come back.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
This team just doesn't know how to put their foot
in your throat. There's not good at it. You don't
have the killer instinct.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't know what's missing. I mean we see stuff.
You know, this play call, how did you miss this?
And how did you get that? And this throw and
this in accurate of this play on defense And obviously
the defense did their gig in, but they did not
get to the quarterback yesterday did the Jacksonville did a
good job of protecting their passer and stuff. But you
can't look at that team when you watch teams like Buffalo,
(06:00):
even though Baltimore lost, for Baltimore or Pittsburgh, Hell, I'm
still amazed at Cincinnati, how good they should be, how
many points they.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Scored, how often they lose.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But you look around the AFC, the tech the Texans are,
they're they're they're not They're not a top tier level.
They're just not. They're no threat to win a Super
Bowl right now. No, they don't. They're they're not that good.
They're fortunate. They're fortunate they've played Jacksonville. They're fortunate they're
in the AFC South and now they're going to be
a test. Now in three weeks, we may change our mind.
They may they may be kicking ass and take care
(06:32):
of Miami and Kansas City and Baltimore and do all
the things they need to do. But I can tell
you right now, they're not in Buffalo and Baltimore, even
with Baltimore's record, They're not in their class right now.
They're not in Pittsburgh's class. They're not in Kansas City's class.
They're just not. There's there's solid five teams in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That are better.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
You know who's whose class that are in. They're in
the Denver Broncos class.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's about right.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I'm not sure right now the way Denver's playing defense,
I'm not real sure you're gonna beat Denver either. And
that's with Bo Nicks at quarterback. Yeah, and who's who's
playing well yep. And and so there'll be some good
things to take away from here. Win and doubt get
mixed in the football. That always helps Nico Collins. He
may have dropped the ball, yes, said we didn't drop
many the guys a great player and they made some
(07:12):
big plays and Dalton Schultz and the rest of it.
But I can tell you this, that team you knew,
you just knew when they had that lead that the
game was not over.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, they don't know how to not only lock the door,
but slam a dead bolt on it. They're just not
good at They don't They always allow it to stay
open without kicking it closed and hammering it shut.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They just don't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So you could say, we could say all we want,
there's really good players, we know that, and the pieces
and I get all that. But as an overall football team,
they scare you because they're talented if you're an opponent.
But the truth of the matter is you're not afraid
of their execution because they don't execute enough without a
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couple of bodies doing it on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Just I I look at the way they came into
the second half and they finally scored in the second half.
They didn't they I think Mixing had twelve carries going
into the second half. It's like they completely abandoned the
run in the first half, changing play calls up, Okay,
let's do it. But then when it was what they
were up what ten points going into the fourth or
(08:23):
in the fourth, I was like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm like you. I was like, uh, I don't feel
like this game.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I didn't quit watching over oh, by no stretch of
the imagination at all.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It was there's no doubt and.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's just the same thing over and over and over again.
I feel like it's like just average play average, average average,
and Jacksonville just isn't very good. But look what mac
Jones did yesterday when he came in twenty at thirty two,
two hundred and thirty five yards, passing two touchdowns, no
interceptions there, and he wasn't sacked once.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And they're they're they're personnel. I mean, Christian Kirk there,
they're beat up. Yeah, Christian Kirk out, Gabe Davis out.
They're two top wide receivers done. I just there's there's
something missing, whether it's the ability to close games out.
I'm talking about in big fashion. Listen, they're eating five.
You'll take it, but there's no way you can. They're
(09:20):
they're they're really fortunate. They still haven't beat a team
that's over five hundred. But Buffalo one team got him
here and played their ass off. It was closed field
goal game, but you still beat them. But other than that,
they have not beaten a When I say quality, i'm
talking about a over five hundred opponent, and yesterday's win
(09:41):
was huge. I'm about to do the culture Gate now.
I know the hell that had the tiebreaker. They did
their thing and came back and won the game yesterday.
You're putting yourself, especially with the schedule, had you have
not won that game in a major bind major. But
they're fortunate because you know they've beat him twice, right, yeah, times,
so they've got the obvious the tiebreaker with them. But
(10:04):
it just gets a little too There ain't no tiebreaker
if you don't have a same record. So that just
was that was a tough one to take for a
while there, thinking are they really going to let this
one get away?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And they were.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
They were fortunate to close it out. But there's a
lot of things that you look at and say, there's
some things that got to change, and they've got to
make some wholesale It's hard to make wholesale change during
the season. They're gonna have to make some major adjustments
in a lot of ways. And the undisciplined part al
Shire when he to do that was I he's going
(10:40):
to get suspended, spend it and he and he and
he should and I do not like to think like
that because I want guys to play one hundred miles
an hour all the way through the whistle and the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It's just the way he played through the whistle on
this one.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And you can talk tough guy all you want and
stuff that's that, you can't do it. And even when
former players like man there's a there's a fraternity, a league,
you just you, you just gotta. You just can't do
it to opposing player, quarterback or not.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You just can't.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, and he made a mistake and it's gonna cost
him because I think he's a good football player and
tough as hell, but that's not the way you send
the message.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And I think when it comes to making split second
decisions like that, and when you're going one hundred miles
an hour like that's one thing.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But I'm pretty sure you could tell that this dude
wasnide Listen, he could see. You can say all you
want it was. And we've seen these things happen before,
Guy Fay, like Kenny Pickett fake slides and keeps running.
I think you know, I think it was Picket a
couple three or four years ago when he did that. Yeah,
you could, but that doesn't happen very often, and you try,
and as a player, you try to that. We see
(11:41):
mahomes like Okay Dook on the sideline before and then
they take their hits, but you just you just gotta
be smart.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Can't do it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm going to tell you this, and people are gonna say, well,
you you you uh promote dirty play.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I absolutely don't. I like a good, hard, physical play.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't think enough teams are physical enough at times,
and I think this team's physicality's got to get better
on the offensive side. But I will tell you this,
he's probably fortunate he got kicked out of the game. Yeah,
from the school a player I come from.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, well was it Darryl Johnson the he was the Yeah,
they were talking about it. He was the color analyst,
but they talked about it. Somebody talked about either at
the half.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Was it how he long on fire? It was how long?
I think how he said? Somebody like, he's probably blessing
got kicked out. Ye, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And I was thinking the same thing when it was
going on, in a different way of thinking about it.
Because a buddy of mine, I'll leave his name out,
but a former first round pick in the NFL who
had a good career.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And he's nasty dude on the field that he played
at SC.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And it wasn't not Bruce Matthews, a guy you know
his name, but he said it's a good thing he
did get. He even said he goes because if that
in my day, and he's he's younger than I am,
he's between he's like in the Rodney Pete area right
that in that era, he said, he goes. We looked
it up, and I know guys I played with would
have simply asked. They would have known the number, but
(13:01):
they would have he would have The retribution would have
been big.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, guys, because it's not what people.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
People don't get, even with guys that are that are
clean and play hard, but they do, especially in a
little older school. I'm just telling you right now a
matter of fact, they would have begged in my air.
I'm just telling you the guys, I mean I can
and even before it the only reason why I said, well,
our guy's tougher. No, they just we policed it different.
This did and the rules allowed you to police it different.
(13:27):
Is I I can prom I've had it happen South.
Who was that who hit you late in that play?
You tell them, dude, they they go hunting numbers. Yeah,
and he would have been it's like a hawk. Old
school you hit Wayne Gretzky. Dave Simenko's coming up in
the next the next shift, He's coming. He is going
to hunt you down, he is. He will hunt you down.
(13:49):
If you're going to hit their star, then guess what,
like a cheap shot their star slash him from behind?
Then then then they are going to hunt you down
and deal with the deal with whatever comes from it.
That's what they used to have the protectors. Now these
centers hell, the Gretzky's world are six four two twenty five.
They can fight and protect them damnselves. Right, You don't
need you think Ovechkin needs protection. No, He's plenty fine
(14:10):
to knock people at. That's why there's no teeth in
his head. But the truth is out here. You can
say what you want about Well, who would have done it?
I know a lot of guys would have hunted him
down and done everything you get caught gawking around a
pile he would have had. He would have had a
crown of his helmet right in an ear hole and
they would have paid him back. So he's probably fortunate
that he got kicked out.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, the big lineman for Jacksonville, Shurf was trying to
get after him, and Evan Ingram was trying to get
after him. The whole damn team was so somebody would
have got their lick for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And they would have done it. You know why.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They would have taken the fine and taken their suspension
in return to make sure that their players knew that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
They had him. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I can go down a list of thirty of them
today that would have hunted him down. So he's on
the on the looking Okay, you're gonna do that, stand
around a pile, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get you.
It's just a matter of when would have at least
made the attempt to it. And I don't promote it,
but I'm just telling you of the thought process. So
he's pretty fortunate and hopefully Trevor Lawrence as well. Texas
did some good things. They got a lot to do.
(15:09):
If they think they can go into Buffalo and beat
them in January, can't do it right now. There's things
we got to look at. Yeah, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Jamiko Ryan spoke about the winning of course the al
As He's al Shire hit. We'll hear that audio and
discussed next right here on Sports Talk seven I
Soulsbrey Oy. Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury, the USC Truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Rockets take down the Oklahoma City Thunder. Texans beat the Jaguars.
University of Texas takes down Texas A and m Sean triplee.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Good morning, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hope you guys had a fantastic holiday, good Thanksgiving, good food.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good fun, good football. So much to cover, a lot
to cover and take it notes on a week? Okay,
was this this game? I mean just constant because coaching
decisions some of the experts aren't really experts, don't have
expertise in like clock management and win and win not
to go for it right? Yeah, NFLA in college stung
(00:58):
a little bit here. I would imagine in Edge Station two.
We'll get to it. But I noticed I always try
to pick out somebody you don't put enough respect on,
and you do not put in your respect or at
least enough on Sea Low Green?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Why is it green this morning? Random? Was he? What
is he one of the original voice? Guys? The voice?
Wasn't he one of the.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Original But I don't know him as se Lo Green?
What is his day, Tripley? You know who Green is?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, what is his We're trying to figure it out,
and I could I try to figure it out this morning.
I can't What was his name before se low Green?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
What did he call it? What was his name? Remember
that's the only name. What was the name?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'll look it up, man, But anyway, you don't put
enough I know, we got a lot to well, you
can look it up, Tripley if you get a chance,
because I gotta get I'm going off on some people today.
Uh see low Green? But what what what happened? You
don't put enough respect? I mean normally you'll put respect
on a lot of people. You get no respect to Selo.
Really it hurts. Actually she was on my mind this morning.
(02:05):
Did you hear a song of his on the way in?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Or yeah? Doesn't he sing are you just every Christmas?
To me? Or to you are very merry? Is that
one of his Christmas cuts? Yeah? I think so?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And I just yeah it was? That was it was?
You know Selo's part of.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
A jam Selo's by jam Dog.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
What was his name? Though? We look that up?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Tripley, I don't have computer. I got my phone, but
figure you could look up what his other name was,
Green's original original name, page name or whatever it is.
That sounds like a stripper, but you don't put enough
respect on him. So I just wanted to let people know.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
That Thomas de Carlo Callaway, No, he had another man
stage name.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't remember what it was. Man it was regardless,
it's not a big deal. But Selo dude, Yeah, sometime
maybe go on the way home feeling guilty and listen
to one of his cuts.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Would you do that in your playlist? No? Why not?
I'm not putting Selo Green on Narls Barkley. Yeah, no,
on these nuts. Okay, I feel that's his real name though, Yeah,
I mean no, that was Yeah, God is stupid. You
(03:24):
said six O three. I said, I'm gonna try to
get that in its Narls Barkley. Okay, yeah, yeah, you're
right on that one. What did I say?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, But it goes back to that he doesn't put
it up respect on Selo Triple. He just doesn't. So
I wanted to let him know this morning. That's just
the wrong way to approach your Monday. Hey, I don't
know where to start. Yeah, where do you want to start?
You want to start with the Barkley not to be
confused with Narls Barkley. Okay, you ain't got guys any good.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You think Josh Allen's any good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And you think the four nine ers were reeling to locally?
You tell me where would you like to start A
and m excuse me, well, in Texas or right here
with the Texans.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Texans? So I think it's the Texans, and I think
yesterday obviously they were fortunate.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm not sure if mac Jones doesn't start that game.
It's about that was a cheap and that's what's going
to be talked about.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And you know, I think Al Shaire's a I was
on a show another show last week and they're talking
to me about certain players. I said, let me tell
you something now that you know getting there's an attitude.
If it broke out, we talked about it, it broke out.
I mean, I'll take that guy. I mean he he
wants to fight everybody, hit everything that's moving. But what
he did yesterday was cheap and it was weak. That's
(04:44):
there's a difference in playing good physical heart. Listen, I
come from the school let it rip and beg forgiveness
rather than ask permission on good, clean hits. That wasn't
good and it wasn't clean. And I'm not that oh
you know, well, you know, high and mighty, how dare him?
I understand the game games physical. He could have controlled that.
You know, they'll be the what if he fake slides? Well,
(05:05):
when they go feet first, you gotta just you got
to lay off, you just do. And then he went
high and then he threw his shoulder in a forearm.
It was just it wasn't good. And we will get
to that. But I'm going to tell you what. The
Texans are a very average football team. They are now
in winning. You'll take the win. We always They're hard
to come by and hopefully Trevor Lawrence is going to
(05:26):
be just fine. But that ball moved Mac Jones moved
that ball up and down the field that game yesterday.
It was accurate, and they got down and then they
found a way to come back.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
This team just doesn't know how to put their foot
in your throat. There's not good at it. You don't
have the killer instinct.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't know what's missing. I mean we see stuff.
You know, this play call, how did you miss this?
And how did you get that? And this throw and
this in accurate of this play on defense And obviously
the defense did their gig in, but they did not
get to the quarterback yesterday did the Jacksonville did a
good job of protecting their passer and stuff. But you
can't look at that team when you watch teams like Buffalo,
(06:00):
even though Baltimore lost, for Baltimore or Pittsburgh, Hell, I'm
still amazed at Cincinnati, how good they should be, how
many points they.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Scored, how often they lose.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But you look around the AFC, the tech the Texans are,
they're they're they're not They're not a top tier level.
They're just not. They're no threat to win a Super
Bowl right now. No, they don't. They're they're not that good.
They're fortunate. They're fortunate they've played Jacksonville. They're fortunate they're
in the AFC South and now they're going to be
a test. Now in three weeks, we may change our mind.
They may they may be kicking ass and take care
(06:32):
of Miami and Kansas City and Baltimore and do all
the things they need to do. But I can tell
you right now, they're not in Buffalo and Baltimore, even
with Baltimore's record, They're not in their class right now.
They're not in Pittsburgh's class. They're not in Kansas City's class.
They're just not. There's there's solid five teams in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That are better.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
You know who's whose class that are in. They're in
the Denver Broncos class.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's about right.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I'm not sure right now the way Denver's playing defense,
I'm not real sure you're gonna beat Denver either. And
that's with Bo Nicks at quarterback. Yeah, and who's who's
playing well yep. And and so there'll be some good
things to take away from here. Win and doubt get
mixed in the football. That always helps Nico Collins. He
may have dropped the ball, yes, said we didn't drop
many the guys a great player and they made some
(07:12):
big plays and Dalton Schultz and the rest of it.
But I can tell you this, that team you knew,
you just knew when they had that lead that the
game was not over.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, they don't know how to not only lock the door,
but slam a dead bolt on it. They're just not
good at They don't They always allow it to stay
open without kicking it closed and hammering it shut.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They just don't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So you could say, we could say all we want,
there's really good players, we know that, and the pieces
and I get all that. But as an overall football team,
they scare you because they're talented if you're an opponent.
But the truth of the matter is you're not afraid
of their execution because they don't execute enough without a
(07:56):
couple of bodies doing it on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Just I I look at the way they came into
the second half and they finally scored in the second half.
They didn't they I think Mixing had twelve carries going
into the second half. It's like they completely abandoned the
run in the first half, changing play calls up, Okay,
let's do it. But then when it was what they
were up what ten points going into the fourth or
(08:23):
in the fourth, I was like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm like you. I was like, uh, I don't feel
like this game.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I didn't quit watching over oh, by no stretch of
the imagination at all.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It was there's no doubt and.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's just the same thing over and over and over again.
I feel like it's like just average play average, average average,
and Jacksonville just isn't very good. But look what mac
Jones did yesterday when he came in twenty at thirty two,
two hundred and thirty five yards, passing two touchdowns, no
interceptions there, and he wasn't sacked once.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And they're they're they're personnel. I mean, Christian Kirk there,
they're beat up. Yeah, Christian Kirk out, Gabe Davis out.
They're two top wide receivers done. I just there's there's
something missing, whether it's the ability to close games out.
I'm talking about in big fashion. Listen, they're eating five.
You'll take it, but there's no way you can. They're
(09:20):
they're they're really fortunate. They still haven't beat a team
that's over five hundred. But Buffalo one team got him
here and played their ass off. It was closed field
goal game, but you still beat them. But other than that,
they have not beaten a When I say quality, i'm
talking about a over five hundred opponent, and yesterday's win
(09:41):
was huge. I'm about to do the culture Gate now.
I know the hell that had the tiebreaker. They did
their thing and came back and won the game yesterday.
You're putting yourself, especially with the schedule, had you have
not won that game in a major bind major. But
they're fortunate because you know they've beat him twice, right, yeah, times,
so they've got the obvious the tiebreaker with them. But
(10:04):
it just gets a little too There ain't no tiebreaker
if you don't have a same record. So that just
was that was a tough one to take for a
while there, thinking are they really going to let this
one get away?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And they were.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
They were fortunate to close it out. But there's a
lot of things that you look at and say, there's
some things that got to change, and they've got to
make some wholesale It's hard to make wholesale change during
the season. They're gonna have to make some major adjustments
in a lot of ways. And the undisciplined part al
Shire when he to do that was I he's going
(10:40):
to get suspended, spend it and he and he and
he should and I do not like to think like
that because I want guys to play one hundred miles
an hour all the way through the whistle and the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It's just the way he played through the whistle on
this one.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And you can talk tough guy all you want and
stuff that's that, you can't do it. And even when
former players like man there's a there's a fraternity, a league,
you just you, you just gotta. You just can't do
it to opposing player, quarterback or not.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You just can't.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, and he made a mistake and it's gonna cost
him because I think he's a good football player and
tough as hell, but that's not the way you send
the message.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And I think when it comes to making split second
decisions like that, and when you're going one hundred miles
an hour like that's one thing.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But I'm pretty sure you could tell that this dude
wasnide Listen, he could see. You can say all you
want it was. And we've seen these things happen before,
Guy Fay, like Kenny Pickett fake slides and keeps running.
I think you know, I think it was Picket a
couple three or four years ago when he did that. Yeah,
you could, but that doesn't happen very often, and you try,
and as a player, you try to that. We see
(11:41):
mahomes like Okay Dook on the sideline before and then
they take their hits, but you just you just gotta
be smart.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Can't do it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm going to tell you this, and people are gonna say, well,
you you you uh promote dirty play.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I absolutely don't. I like a good, hard, physical play.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't think enough teams are physical enough at times,
and I think this team's physicality's got to get better
on the offensive side. But I will tell you this,
he's probably fortunate he got kicked out of the game. Yeah,
from the school a player I come from.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, well was it Darryl Johnson the he was the Yeah,
they were talking about it. He was the color analyst,
but they talked about it. Somebody talked about either at
the half.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Was it how he long on fire? It was how long?
I think how he said? Somebody like, he's probably blessing
got kicked out. Ye, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And I was thinking the same thing when it was
going on, in a different way of thinking about it.
Because a buddy of mine, I'll leave his name out,
but a former first round pick in the NFL who
had a good career.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And he's nasty dude on the field that he played
at SC.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And it wasn't not Bruce Matthews, a guy you know
his name, but he said it's a good thing he
did get. He even said he goes because if that
in my day, and he's he's younger than I am,
he's between he's like in the Rodney Pete area right
that in that era, he said, he goes. We looked
it up, and I know guys I played with would
have simply asked. They would have known the number, but
(13:01):
they would have he would have The retribution would have
been big.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, guys, because it's not what people.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
People don't get, even with guys that are that are
clean and play hard, but they do, especially in a
little older school. I'm just telling you right now a
matter of fact, they would have begged in my air.
I'm just telling you the guys, I mean I can
and even before it the only reason why I said, well,
our guy's tougher. No, they just we policed it different.
This did and the rules allowed you to police it different.
(13:27):
Is I I can prom I've had it happen South.
Who was that who hit you late in that play?
You tell them, dude, they they go hunting numbers. Yeah,
and he would have been it's like a hawk. Old
school you hit Wayne Gretzky. Dave Simenko's coming up in
the next the next shift, He's coming. He is going
to hunt you down, he is. He will hunt you down.
(13:49):
If you're going to hit their star, then guess what,
like a cheap shot their star slash him from behind?
Then then then they are going to hunt you down
and deal with the deal with whatever comes from it.
That's what they used to have the protectors. Now these
centers hell, the Gretzky's world are six four two twenty five.
They can fight and protect them damnselves. Right, You don't
need you think Ovechkin needs protection. No, He's plenty fine
(14:10):
to knock people at. That's why there's no teeth in
his head. But the truth is out here. You can
say what you want about Well, who would have done it?
I know a lot of guys would have hunted him
down and done everything you get caught gawking around a
pile he would have had. He would have had a
crown of his helmet right in an ear hole and
they would have paid him back. So he's probably fortunate
that he got kicked out.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, the big lineman for Jacksonville, Shurf was trying to
get after him, and Evan Ingram was trying to get
after him. The whole damn team was so somebody would
have got their lick for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And they would have done it. You know why.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They would have taken the fine and taken their suspension
in return to make sure that their players knew that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
They had him. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I can go down a list of thirty of them
today that would have hunted him down. So he's on
the on the looking Okay, you're gonna do that, stand
around a pile, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get you.
It's just a matter of when would have at least
made the attempt to it. And I don't promote it,
but I'm just telling you of the thought process. So
he's pretty fortunate and hopefully Trevor Lawrence as well. Texas
did some good things. They got a lot to do.
(15:09):
If they think they can go into Buffalo and beat
them in January, can't do it right now. There's things
we got to look at. Yeah, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Jamiko Ryan spoke about the winning of course the al
As He's al Shire hit. We'll hear that audio and
discussed next right here on Sports Talk seven I
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