Demeco Ryans Defends Azeez To Media, MNF Results, Al-Shaair's 3 Game Suspension

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 4 (00:22):
Broncos take down a W in Monday night football. Christan
McCaffrey headed to the i R for the San Francisco
forty nine ers. Dimiko Ryan speaking to the media yesterday
for the Texans defending A Z's OUTSTEI here, Sean Tripley,
good morning, this has this this hit stuff, Sean. It's
it's like taking the national media by storm. People talking

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about Azaz being a dirty player.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
I mean, it's just you should it is. It is
the sugared it would well. I looked at a compilation
of hits yesterday. Friend of mine sent me from him. Yeah, uh,
I understand. First of off, Tamiko ryans. First of all,
he should defend his own player.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
That's his job.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
He should defend his own player if his own player
shows up. I mean, that's just who you are. That
that's you defend your family. You defend you always do.
That doesn't mean you don't take care of the business
inside the building. It's none of You're in my business.
What he tells his players inside the building. I know
some of this, some of the over abundant self righteous
media and fan members that we think that we deserve

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everything to know that goes on in the building, that
I want you to tell me everything that goes on
in your damn home. You don't have a right to
know everything that goes on in that building, and neither
do I and need it is every fan, but we
we we are self importance. Lets us think that we
do that private conversations between him and Demiko Ryans or
anybody else that we're supposed to know about, and quite frankly,
we're not. Matter of fact, that's what I'll lose respect

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for a coach or of players when they talk about
what they talked about in their private business. Secondly, I
understand one forty eight percent, that's seventy five percent, one
hundred percent. I understand why people outside this city are
questioning if he's a dirty player. And I said yesterday,
I said, I can't fathom he's a dirty player. One

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came back to me when he hit somebody laid on
the sideline, I can't remember who it was. And then
I got it from a buddy of mine sends it
to me yesterday a compilation of a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And I understand if you're not a homer or live here.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
I hate to say it because I don't know. I
think he plays hard. He's one of my favorite defenders
on the team. And I said when he came, I
just love He to me is a peace I mean
when I say a peacekeeper, he's the guy that you're
going to get an effort at him all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
But and I'm not saying he is.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
I don't know what's in his heart, because I think
he loves to play football. But if you're just seeing
video after you saw what the Trevor Lawrence and and
I understand why Demiko uh Demiko defended it. Demiko's wrong
when he said Jacksonville went a little too haywire on
the sideline, because done that? Have you done that to
my quarterback? I'm just telling you, a buddy of mine,

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to five, they'd have blown your knee out three plays later.
So and I've seen it, so that well that's uncalled for.
Well yeah, but it shows a shot to the head
of the can Indo career. So I don't think he did
it intentionally to hurt him. I think he it was
cheap though, so you say, okay, one play doesn't doesn't
justify calling a guy. Everybody that's been through football has

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done something that you could say, man, that was beyond
the rules. So, as I said yesterday, I don't believe
he's a cheap shot artist. He's done some cheap things
in his career, but I think you could probably say
that about everybody. And there is a difference between playing
a slippery slope, between playing hard and doing it the
right way. And you know, a guy standing around, he

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dive at his knees. A guy said, and you hit
his head. I saw a compilation yesterday. If you're outside
this city, you have every I understand one hundred percent.
If you saw all that stuff that you'd say, oh no, no,
this is an a one time. This is a one off.
I would quit. And I understand the questions, and the
questions are valid.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Is that the one where it's not just one you know,
I'm saying the video where you see him tackle Tom Brady,
he's got to buy the throat.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
That and then he goes and he and he punches
somebody in the face on the sideline and then he
then he uh, there's a guy four yards late, four
yards out of.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Bounds, and he hits him hard.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
I understand playing hard, but I understand if you're not
around here, don't listen to people talk about him the
optics from the outside, because I just say, reverse it.
If that dude, if it was Josh Allen and Jacksonville
doing that, you, I can guarant ask t You'll be
saying be alert for him. That's a dirty player. That's
what you'd be thinking. And I I want to believe

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that he's not. And I am one percent on Tamiko
Ryanside defending it and sayd he plays hard, He's got
a huge art. You can have the biggest heart in
the world and still be a dirty player. I'm not
saying that that's the case with the with al Shire,
but that I know guys that are great guys off,
but when they're on the field, I can name something.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'll leave him out.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
But if they got a shot to take your knee
out or shot to hit you in the head when
they played, they would.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
So there is a.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Slippery slope between playing hard and playing explosive, but also
crossing the line. More than once, everybody unfortunately crossed it.
What they just do man, I shouldn't have done that,
or I hit him late. I should have known better.
I wasn't disciplined. So I'm on the side of trying
to believe that he isn't. And I do believe that.
But after you see it, if you're the outside, not
here listening to it every day or watching him, I

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get why you would question it one hundred percent get
while after I saw it him like damn, that's hard
to defend as a coach. But I think Demiko's one
hundred percent right in defending him. I think he's one
hundred percent wrong in Saint Jacksonville overreacted. No, because I'll
tell you what, You're a bitch ass coward. I'm not
saying him. If you're a player and you allowed what

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disease did to to Trevor Lawrence and you stood around
and watched it, then then you're not part of my family.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
I'd rather I just soon have you get kicked out
responding and chasing his ass down to beat him to
a pulp as I was.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'd rather have you that and get kicked out and
we lose a player.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, well, Sean, Yeah, because the long term effect matters.
More to me in my locker room than it does
a one time thing.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I get.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
It's you take it back in a smaller way to
a pitcher who your guys get hit and you know
you're getting head hunted, and that bitch goes out there
and won't throw at him because he didn't want to
get kicked out or get fine. He asked, I got
news for you that dude will get He's gone from
my roster as quick as I I don't care who
he is.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I know what he is. He's a coward.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
So when it comes to this, we know as he
plays hard, everybody should play hard. He sometimes plays after
the whistle. I'd rather have a guy play after the
whistle than to it, as long as it's not cheap.
But I do get outside the building. Why the frustration
of fans are saying, because you see it, it's it's
it will If it would happen to this city, if
it would have happened to Stroud, this city would have

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been on their ear, going crazy and trying to hunt
the guy down sands, and they would have every time
they got a chance.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
He's dirty.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
He's dirty, so all you got to do is reverse it.
I'm not saying he is, and I hope he's not.
I don't think he is because I love him. I've
told you on the saying I think he somebody.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Says I was.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Before we had the game against Tennessee. I went on
in Tennessee and they asked me. I said, I think
having him on this team, adding him to this team
has been huge because I do think he is a
wow factor, intimidation, hard player, loves football guy. But he
has crossed the line more than once, so I get
why people question it. And Tamiko Ryans is wrong. He

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is one hundred percent wrong in saying Jacksonville reacted because
if he's a coach and his guys didn't react that way,
then it would tell me they think he's a coward,
and he's not. I Lovedmiko Ryans, and I'm ninety nine
percent of time I'm with him when he said that
they overreacted and said, no, no, they didn't. They're protecting
their sixty million dollar player and for whatever he is,
for the right reasons, and we would too. And if

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you don't go watch tape about the guys who sit
around and gauk at those things that happen and kind
of turn their cheek. That's the guy you don't want,
because that doesn't mean you're going throwing haymakers trying to
hurt somebody. But I don't want a guy when you
stomp on my midfield. It's the guy who stands on
the outside allowing you to do it. Do you have
any teammates like that.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Over the court? Well, and I wouldn't name him.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Over the course of time, every team's got a guy
or two that would just as soon be passive in
that and not be well because they're talented. That's how Yeah,
But you have to be like tough hard nos a
the NFL. You know, well, some are some are good
enough to get by and you can. It's it's you
can fool some people, but you can't fool them when
it's nut cutting time and it's you and four other dudes.

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You'll find out a lot about a guy when you're
out numbered. That's when you want to know. It's a
strengthen numbers, yeah, but when you're out number, you want
to find about a guy's character, toughness, or who he is,
and what kind of teammate or friend he is. Get
in one of those fights when you're out numbered and
take a look around, kind of like the old bar
fight when we're the song with uh I was, I
was not as good as I once was. But Keith, yeah,

(09:01):
they were his buddies get in a fight and he's
over there talking to a gall Yeah yeah, but what.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Did he do?

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Put his drink down and went over and got it
and helped his buddy out and they were out numbered.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's the guy you want.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
The guy you don't want is when you're outnumbered decides
to walk out the alley and leave you hanging. So
so there's a lot to digest about this. Yeah, I
don't think he's but I do get if I'm in Jacksonville,
I'm pissed as a mother.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Have you been asked about it yet nationally? No?

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Sure you will, well, and it's the truth, and I'll
say it, and i'd say it if he was in
here as a guest. I said, you do understand when
you see this why people would question it. And if
you don't ask the question, then you're afraid that he's
gonna get Maddie. And I don't really care who's mad,
and that's not many. What's he gonna do?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Hit me?

Speaker 5 (09:47):
No? And I am a. He's one of my favorite
defensive players in the league. But after seeing it, because
I'll defend him, and I still don't think he's dirty.
I think he's done some things beyond the whistle, and
beyond that, maybe it's not even dirty. Maybe it's he
does and have control sometimes of his emotions. And I'm
okay with that guy as long as he doesn't get
us in trouble on a regular basis each game. But

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if it was my quarterback or a guy in my
running you come up and do that to my player,
I would have a much bigger problem as a coach
if they didn't. And if you're Doug Peterson, you want
your Jacksonville Jaguars to do exactly what they did and
you go over to the siline, that's not a big deal.
That's called You know the respect they have for Trevor Lawrence.
Whether you like his game or not, you damn well

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know that they got his back. So there's a lot
to digestion this, But I saw enough to tell me
I understand. I don't think it's true, but I do
understand the optics from the outside world of why they think.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
That this is a that he could be a dirty player.
I get it. I've seen it.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
I've seen him and I've played against him. Some you say, no,
it's not it's just circumstances. But there's enough collection for
you to question it. And I do get it.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
We've got the audio.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Jamiko Ryan spoke to the media yesterday defend it as
he's Alscheier and said the Jaguars may have overreacted to
the late hit on Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
What did he say? We'll hear it discuss next right
here on The Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
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Speaker 5 (11:20):
I mean almost like seven hundred yards passing last night.
And you're not gonna win many games. And we've said
that they get a better chance throwing the football and
winning with him throwing it. They just do than they
did with the previous guy in Watson. He's just a
better thrower of the ball. They you can't You're not

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gonna You're not gonna win many times throwing fifty times.
I don't understand why Nick Chubb is just so limited
and his touches.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Nine carries us n. I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
But Cleven's got a lot of problems, and Winston kept him,
you know, he kept him minute throwing it. You know,
he'll throw it to the other team, but he's he'll
take shots, he'll take chances. And you got to love
a guy who's stayed. He's resilient man, and he's capable
of throwing. He's a guy capable throwing for five thousand
plus yards every year if he plays seventeen games.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
He just does.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
If you get in an offense and wants to throw it,
But you guy, you're not gonna win much. Take a
look in the game, all those yards and you care,
you don't. You don't win the rushing battle. You know,
your stud gets it nine times and I think they
had twenty some.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Carries in the game, twenty three total. That's not gonna
win much.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
You're just not And while they were close, it's still
in l and he's got and that's not on him.
Stefanski calm, throw after throw out to throw you throw
it after throw it after throw it, and most of
them ended up in the right hand, some in it
up in the wrong hands, and it ends up being
a you know, pick six and when you got when
you got the guts that he has, and he'll throw
it the windows that you shouldn't throw it into, and

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he'll fit some in.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
He's really good with that.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
But that's totally passing yards with him alone about close
to this six hundred plus yards with interception return yards.
So but fifty plus throws, you're gonna have a hard
time winning the league.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
You just are.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Jerry Judy nine receptions, two hundred and thirty five yards receiving,
Elijah Moore eight receptions, one hundred and eleven yard receiving
for the Browns, and then over on the Denver side,
Marvin Mims Junior three receptions, one hundred and five yards,
Courtland Sutton six receptions, one hundred and two yards. Bo
Nicks was eighteen and thirty five two ninety four yards passing,
one touchdown, two interceptions, was not sacked, was not sacked.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Must be.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Yeah, his numbers were a pedestrian, but he's uh, he's
athletic and as much as many yards and points sake dead.
That wasn't your typical Denver defense last night. But the
rookie quarterback's doing good things and they're finding ways they're
making big plays defense. You know, when you score on
defense and take away the run, you got a chance. Denvers.
Denver is the type team that can beat somebody in

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the first round of the playoffs because their defense is
good enough and a rookie quarterback makes enough plays.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
They're hanging around. That's they're pretty good.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
They're eight and five. Yep.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
And as it stands right now, Sean Payton can coach.
As it stands right now, they would be in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
You think about Peyton doing his things, struggling with Russ
Wilson and all of us bearing Russ Wilson career wise.
He throwing for over four hundred this past week and
he's got his team in first place, playing great football
for him. Great comeback story for Russ. You know, was
he gonna fit into Pittsburgh. It seems like everybody fits
in with Mike Tomlin's team, and uh and so worked.

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Denver worked by getting nicks and playing a rookie, and
it's worked for them, and it's worked for Pittsburgh going
out and getting a veteran like Russ Wilson.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
He's coming and.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Played really really solid football, and you don't hear much
from him. He just keeps on chuge, you know, chugging
along and uh again, big game this past weekend against
the You know, Burrow's pretty good and Russ Wilson outdueled him.
And here we are. Both teams are more than likely
going to make the playoffs. Steelers no surprise. Denver Broncos

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defense and rookie quarterback and a head coach who gets.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
It and he always has.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, Denver with the seventh seed right now, seven seven
ninety's number to join.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
What's happened to Brad? What's up, guys?

Speaker 8 (15:02):
And the words of Al Davis, the quarterback must go down,
and he must go down hard. Sean, you played with
some of these guys and they're still around. There are
some mean, mean players, and that's the respect they get
from the league.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
They'll be talking about.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
It on this news shows that oh he's a cheap
shot our, he's this, he's that.

Speaker 9 (15:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
No.

Speaker 10 (15:23):
In the back of the mind and in them film rooms,
that quarterback coach is telling everybody get down, He'll hurt you.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Romanowski the spit Gate back.

Speaker 10 (15:33):
In the day, that dude was mean, flat out mean,
lal Lazato mean. Do you think them guys could play.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Now, absolutely not.

Speaker 10 (15:45):
They would be ran out of the league already.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
This quarterback controversy of it does he get hit hard
or does he go down?

Speaker 10 (15:53):
Last year we were talking about how many phantom calls
were being made on roughing the quarterback when they were
leaning off them.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Now he wants to get outside of the pocket. That's
part of it.

Speaker 10 (16:03):
If you want to go deliver the hit, go play
the linebacker spot, Go play the strong safety.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
You're not talking about are you talking about Lawrence? Yeah,
he didn't try. He wasn't trying to. He wasn't trying
to deliver the hit.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Though.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm all for the Alzado's and Romanowskis and and and
al Shires. I'm one matter of fact, Eileen on the side,
we as a quarterback, we protect him too much.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
It's overboard where we've ruined the integrity of tackle football
with that. But the hit on Trevor Lawrence was a
flat out cheap shot.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
It just was well, well, Sean, Sean, I totally agree
it could be a cheap shot, But like I said,
I'd rather have that kid or that guy, excuse me,
a grown man. It's the old analogy. I you know,
I can't bring you down. I could tone you down,
but I can't bring you up. And now AlSi hear
they knew what they were getting. That's exactly why themiko wantay,

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they knew exactly.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh, I love him. If I'm a coach, I want
him on my team.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
In there are private rooms, the coaches sitting in the rooms,
they may say, we can't have that butt. And I've
been on teams for a guy. You got a guy
like well, Rodney Harrison, for instance, was this was a
great player and one of my dearest friends. When we
were in San Diego together, he would like if you
came across the middle on his own team. During practice,
he was letting rookies and young people know, Rodney Harrison

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hit everything that was moving. It didn't matter. And it's
like one of those things, Rodney, you can't keep hitting
this guy. And I think Rodney Harrison's a Hall of
Famer if you ask me. But but and then they'll
coaches will correct him and we can't do that.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Don't cost this a penalty.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
And in their private meeting rooms, they're sitting there high
five in each other saying we got ourselves a dude.
Of course, there's no doubt, but you still got to
be judicious in what you choose to do. I love,
I love Alshire, but I get why people are questioning
what happened. And if I was on the opposite team,
I'd have wanted to fight him too, if I was
on Jacksonville because of the quarterback.

Speaker 10 (17:52):
Exactly right, exactly, and I'll bring up real quick point
and I'll get off.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
You know you raised your son, right. My son was
an offensive linemobile, a little a helicopter day. But to
listen to his teammates talk about him and practice when
he was an offensive lineman, he didn't care if you
were the freshman quarterback and you got cheap shotted.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
He was going to go fight for you. Yep.

Speaker 10 (18:12):
And I mean that that's when, and you're right, that's
the lineman have to do that, just like Demko has
to take up for his players because if he don't,
he's going to lose that locker room in his second
year and it's going to get bad.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Always no questions to do it. Hey, thanks for the
thanks for the appreciate it, Brad.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, you have to. You have to defend your players.
And as a player. You got to defend your players,
even if it's you're defending what he did that was wrong.
As a player, I like I can win with guys
that care about their own teammates and the coaches at care.
I ain't winning with a guy that I got to
gear up and say, hey man, you know it's okay
to hit somebody moving or to protect your own teammate.
If I if I got to force that on a guy,

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I'll take al shah here a thousand times over over
a guy I got a ramp up to get ready
to play and to care. Yeah, but I also know
that he's he's going to have to do a good
and that's part. You know what you're getting. It's that
guy in Cloud, you know, the the you want, the
you know, the guy who's the class clown. Everybody loves him,
but it is the you love it. You love the last.
But there's a time and a place that the laughs

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aren't for today. It's got to stop. That's right for
you know, at least be delayed. Right, So love him
and you want him, and you hate playing against guys
like him, but you love him as a teammate. But
you also if you're the other team. You're your head's
on a swivel, and you know that if there's a
put it this way, there's some stuff going around alshi
here is going to be.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Around the pile.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
And if I'm an opposing team, I didn't done exactly
what Jacksonville did.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, there's no there's no overreaction in my opinion, without
one ounce of it.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
No, not even close. That's the only thing I disagree with,
on on on on Uh. Yeah, and you know what.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
The big boys shurf when he went back after him.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Players players either you want to earn respect from your players.
It ain't thrown for four hundred yards. I told you
this story when I as a quarterback. Even I'm just
using this for example for how they look at all
positions and quarterbacks. Won Do you think people watch sidelines
when a quarterback it's third and eight and he has
to get a first down any boat and he curb

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stomps a guy who comes up who thinks he's gonna
go out of bounds and runs right through him. Watch
the sidelines and then watch the sidelines on a bank post.
They'll celebrate. It's a different type of feeling. And I
can remember I asked Dan Fouts, who I think is
this tough a pocket passer the world's ever seen? Because
he couldn't move a lick, but man alive, he'll stare
down at gun barrel. And I did ask him years
ago when he was broadcasting one of our games. I

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was getting ready to start the next guy. I said,
how does the quarterback get league? You know, leadership? How
do you define it?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
What do you do?

Speaker 5 (20:43):
He goes and basically, it ain't thrown for four hundred yards.
It is setting your ass in the pocket knowing you're
going to get hit, delivering the ball and still taking
that hit. And he said that to my face, that's leadership.
Not telling me how to do it. That leadership and
not throwing the touchdown pass, but delivering the ball under

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duress when you know you're going to get the piss
knocked right out of you. And look around the league,
what do you think The number one thing opposing teams
say about Petrie call that he flies around, hits a ballhawk,
hits everything. Yeah, people love him because you know that
he's going to he's blatant disregard for his body.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, and they know that he's hurt. They know that
the Texans are suffering from that.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
When's the last time you heard people to talk about
his interception statistics?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
They don't. And he may have the hell of a player,
they don't talk about that. No, they don't.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
You know.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
They talk about the physicality. Damn right, they do. And
it's the same with sure. Listen, there's not a teammate
on that team right now that doesn't love what Shriff
did and going after there's not one because you're saying
that guy has had it or doesn't. And on this team,
you love him, but I got news for it. The
second you play against a guy like I'll show you
it's like, okay, yeah, it's it's on. You want to
bring out emotion, and I'm telling you right now, the

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Miami Dolphin, they'll be prepared everybody else. And that's okay.
I want them on my team to I love him,
but I disagree with the Miko on the Oh they
were over they overreacted. I don't when you're protecting your
quarterback because he would have expected his team to overreact
if it was Stroud that took that hit, right, and
we all would have been Pisson, Vinegar, They're all right,
we'd be talking.

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Speaker 9 (23:14):
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Speaker 4 (23:15):
Let's hear the audio of Jamico Ryans spoke to the
media yesterday defending a Zz Al Shaire and that hit
on Trevor Lawrence here is the head coach for the
Texans situation.

Speaker 11 (23:27):
We stand behind a Z's and everything you know that
came from there. Of course, he unfortunately hit on the quarterback.
But it's also it's it's twofold, right. I mean, a
lot of the quarterbacks in this day and age, they
try to take advantage of the rule where they slide
late and they try to get an extra yard.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
And now you're a defender.

Speaker 11 (23:47):
A lot of onners is on the defender, right, whether
it's on the sideline or where it's on the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You don't know what a guy's thinking.

Speaker 11 (23:54):
You don't know if a guy is standing up and
he's continuing to run, you don't know. And then you
get a late slide and you're you know, you hit
the guy. Unfortunately that Trevor got hurt. We want to
hope Trevor is okay. But it's also if we're sliding,
we have to get down. If we're getting out of bounds,
we get out of bounds. And that rule is there
to protect the quarterbacks. And we want our quarterbacks to
be safe in the league. So we just have to

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be safe and we're sliding, make sure we're keeping our
heads down. So and the entire thing is, you know,
a these he's the guy, but their sideline overreacts and
it turns out and turns into a melee.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
It wasn't our guys.

Speaker 11 (24:30):
Their team overreacted, pushed our guy, dragging our guy to
the sideline. So that's uncalled for on that side, we
have to be bet on.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
That's to beeka.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Ryan's talking about the disease out Shire hit. I just
don't think there is the overreaction from Jacksonville's sideline.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I don't think it was What was he what was
the verbiage he used?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
He said overreaction and he said uncalled for when it
came to how their sideline co act.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I don't think any of that is that.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Like I want, what do we say about the Texans
in this offensive line. I brought it up to you yesterday, Sean.
There were so many different times throughout this season where
CJ gets hit hard their quarterback, and no one picks
them up. There's been times where he gets hit towards
the sideline, nobody's there to help him up. So if
that happened to CJ. Stroud, I would absolutely one hundred

(25:22):
percent want the sideline to go ballistic and want to
try to hurt somebody.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
I would expect one of my players. They end up
getting kicked out of a game.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yes, cause him Melee, I don't give a damn.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Right and it's I mean, well, Shawn, you're hurting your team.
I get it, But the long term ramifications have not
not only that, but the collateral damage of a quarterback
saying do my guys not love me?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
They not respect me? Well, why wouldn't I.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
I don't have any questions about Shriff's ability to want
to protect it. Regardless of the outcome of the game.
You just have to have there's got to be a
little nasty protection first. And Demiko's right about so much
protecting al Shay. You want him on the team. I'm
sure he's got a big heart. People across the KI
the league aren't thinking about his heart. The fine is
not going to be thinking about his heart or the

(26:08):
intent part of it. You know that comes into play.
He should defensive players. I love al Shire as a player,
don't know him as a human, love him as a player.
Demikos one wrong the way Jacksonville responded. I would have
done the same thing. As a matter of fact, I
would have just like a manager. If a pitcher has
to come up to me and ask me should I retaliate,

(26:29):
then I already know who he is. If you've got
to come up that you've got to come up and
talk to me after you they plucked two of my
players in a ribcage after one of them homeward, and
now you've got to come to me in the dugout
and ask me. Then I already know what I know.
I already know what I need to know. Matter of fact,
somebody warm up in the bullpen. This guy ain't got it, Okay, Well, Sean,
what if he's got It's in the fifth inning and

(26:50):
he's pitching a two hitter. What if Oh well, that's
why I pay the other guys come in there and
do it. C. C. Sabathia.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
There was this situation back in the day when he
was pitching and he had to hit an innings threshold
to get like a million dollar bonus as a part
of his contract. He hit a guy in the second
inning and said screw it to defend his guy and
got kicked out. Did not get that bonus, And you
know he wanted to defend his guys.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
And he'll he go to his grave when he's one
hundred and five thinking I didn't sell out. No, And
that's a lot of money to pay. But good on him, Yeah,
good on him. You get we're enough's enough. So if
you got to ask me, it's just like this. You
think Schurf went up to Doug Peterson and asked for
his proditionional No, no, So it's a Demiko was right

(27:36):
on one account. Completely defend your player on the other side.
That's why I brought him here to be a physical
presence and to do that. He didn't bring him here
to be soft. But you don't want to hurt anybody.
But I can tell you this, Like I said, I
seen enough compilation and know why people outside the building
or outside this city questioned some of the things that
you've seen on tape from in games. But there's no

(27:59):
way you can say that Jacksonville overreacted. He's wrong there
because his team would have done the same thing.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I hope. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
If they wouldn't have, then I then then we got it.
Then then we having a four hour conversation right today. Yeah, bigger,
bigger issues. YEP seven one three seven highties the number
to join Billy. Good morning, Hey, good morning guys. Uh Sean,
you know where I'm at with this hit.

Speaker 12 (28:20):
We discussed it on whatever the thing is now ex
twitter whatever it is. But and and dirty hit, I
don't know, very aggressive hit, yes, did he lead with
a forearm yes? But anyway, all that aside, Uh, Dimiko's wrong.
It was not an overreaction. It was a proper reaction

(28:41):
from Jacksonville. And uh, he's defending his player and that's great,
But something else to Miko said, And it's got me
questioning the NFL rules. So and you just said it
just a minute ago. Also, so a quarterbacks going, he's
running to the sideline, looks like he's going to go
out of bounds. The defensive player eases up because you
don't want to get a penalty, and the quarterback puts

(29:04):
his foot in the ground and cuts up and gets
five to ten more yards or even scores a touchdown.
Where's the line? At what point is the defensive player
allowed to hit a guy?

Speaker 13 (29:16):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (29:17):
You know, guys gonna he's gonna fake a slide. And
uh there's a certain character that plays in a red
uniform that likes to do that. I won't name his name,
but uh, they're setting the defensive players up. And uh,
I want that aggressiveness. I don't want dirty, but I
want aggressive. I want hard hitting. But at some point

(29:39):
you've got to tell me or tell the defensive players,
when can I hit a guy and when can I not?
Because the quarterbacks are taking advantage of the rules.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Billy, you know what, you're one hundred percent. I'll tell
you this.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
If I'm coaching, here's what I'm teaching. And you saw
in Lawrence's case he started to go into the foot
first slide. For me, that's that's that's an outline a
normal I'm teaching my players if he has not stepped
out of it, even if he's going out of if
he's headed for out of bounds but he's two yards away.
Mahomes does that all the time. I'm telling my players.

(30:12):
If his body is inbound, you knock the living piss
out of him.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Not in the head.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
You'll go for the knees, you put your helmet in
his sternum, and you send him back where he lands
and Andy Reid's lap, and I don't care whether it's
Mahomes or any of them, they're getting the hell knocked
out of him while they're in the field of play,
especially once they break the pocket. Your free game until
you start to slide without being cheap. So I'm teaching
that all along. But here's the rule. Remember we saw

(30:37):
Kenny Pickett do that in a game and it got
him a big touch, a huge run. He actually dipped
his hips like he was sliding, and that is not
in that rule that. It's bush league and defense. All
the rules are set up for the offense to be successful.
Here's the rule that's got to change, because if I'm
teaching it, I'm saying, if he's in bounds, you, we'll
worry about the penalty later. You go knock the hell

(30:59):
out of him and tell you that's that's what I'm teaching.
So I'm all for that. But here's what's going to
happen to prevent that from going further is where they've
they've got to review that. If a guy starts to
head and pulls the old Oakie doke on you and
fakes the step out of bounds as a quarterback I'm
talking about the rest of them are free game as
a quarterback and then decides to cut back inside. Where

(31:21):
he made the cut is where he's down. He doesn't
get the extra yards that that would be me. Now,
that prevents the if he's going to do it, and
we know that it prevents him one from taking a
hit that he don't want, I assure you. And if
he does take it, well, oh well, dude, you were
in play. But to prevent some of these unfortunate stuff
from happening, and if you really want your quarterbacks protected,

(31:43):
that rule has got to be enforced more that if
you it's not a rule, but I would that. Oh,
here's where he started his out of bounds. Here's where
he started his you know, for pretending like he was
going to go down, and then continued that we got
to bring the ball back to that spot. That will
prevent defenses from standard Because I can tell you what
the coaches do in the film room the next day.
That guy, the guy who doesn't hit him is getting

(32:06):
vilified by the kode. What are you doing, he's in play,
you unload on him. Well, I didn't want to get
fined or penalty. It's not fair to the defense. It's
just not and the quarterbacks do take advantage of it.
So they got to make it to where even if
he gets twenty five extra yards were he attempted to
pull the old okie doke, I'm not talking about between
the hash marks, where he just puts a move on
a guy and runs by him. I'm talking about that.

(32:26):
Oh I sat down, fake slide or fake step out
of bounds as a quarterback and then dip back inside
for twenty more. That ball's coming back to where you
faked it. And we'll go from there, unless, of course,
you want my defense to beat the hell out of
even more. And in your in your quarterback season, I
am teaching while he's inbounds, you you hit him as
if he's Derrick Henry and known.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, I'm a hundred percent.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
With you on that. And as far as I'm concerned,
we can go back to the old ways and a
quarterback's a player. Uh you know, I'm I understand protating
the quarterback. I understand the millions of dollars just got
are making.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I get it. But at the same time, uh, not
the hell out of them.

Speaker 12 (33:04):
Okay, my favorite player, if we get it, that's right. No,
you know, cut the lace off your panties and go play. Sorry,
so I hope I can say that, but yeah, it's uh,
you know, they should be a football player, and if
they get hit.

Speaker 14 (33:19):
They get hit.

Speaker 12 (33:20):
I get the money, I get the you know, all
this stuff and everything but at the same time, I
just get it just kind of gets old to me,
and I think it's soft football and if that's what
the NFL wants, and they're heading the wrong direction. But
you can't always protect players. This is a hard hitting game.
The guys know what they signed up for. Yeah, there's
gonna be CTEs, Yeah, there's gonna be concussions, all this

(33:40):
other stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
It's part of it. It's understandable football.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
We don't play touch football. It's unfortunate and tackle football.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
People get hurt. It's the way.

Speaker 12 (33:50):
And there's hundreds of millions of dollars on the line,
and they get it because they want that money.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
All right, I'll get on with box, thank you.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
And you know what, they get paid all that money.
We're paying him extra to make sure that they understand
the situation. We pay him more and protect him more.
And every now and again, if you're in the open
field and you get the hell knocked out of you,
oh oh well, well it's the game. We don't put
a red jersey on you. But we've come close to
doing that. Yeah, And it is not fair to the defense.
But the situation with al Shaira's buildy, it was different.

(34:19):
There was no middle that was that was by the
hash mark.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
It was. It was.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
It was blatant, and he went after him and and
he's gonna pay for it. That doesn't mean he's dirty.
But you look at some other stuff, you'll say, Man,
he's hit this scat of bounds before. But I can
name you a million players. Did if I put on
tape on defense, he say, oh, did he grab his
face Max and yank him down? Did he You can
find this with anybody, but I would have reacted like
like Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Did as well. Yeah, And there's no reaction there.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
There's I actually think you're a coward. If you don't
I agree one hundred percent with you.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Seven one three five seven ninety isn't ever to joinable
continue to talk about the Houston Texans. Then what could
the league do to as he's al Shai here, We'll
bring up some hits that have happened prior the guys
that I can suspended. So what does that mean for Shire?
That's next, Right, you're back.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, and get back at it.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Seven one three, two two five seven onty is the
number to join. Talking about the Aziz Al Shire hit.
What will the league office do, Damian. We appreciate you
holding good morning.

Speaker 15 (35:19):
Oh no, worries appreciated fellas Hey Sean, I uh, I
got a couple of things. I'm gonna hang up.

Speaker 9 (35:25):
For one, that that hit on that hit when I
saw at I krims because I knew right then that
the hit was bad.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
At the same.

Speaker 9 (35:33):
Time, I don't. I don't believe al Shire is a
dirty player or nothing like that. And I do believe
dirty player is a is kind of used loosely because
when I when I see when I when you say
dirty players, I go back to thinking about guys like
Blonted's Burfeck. I remember he hit Antonio Bryant Brown and he.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Was never the same, or guys.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
Like, uh, what was the guy from Detroit and domacun
Sioux or even Albert Haynesworth. Those are the kind of
guys that I looked up kind of went you say
dirty player, I look at those type of guys. Even
the Texans had a guy before that, the guy that
laid that hit on Brady put Brady out for the year.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
But polic So I mean, where do you where do you.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
Draw the line of saying oh, this guy's playing hard,
you know he made that may be a one off,
or this guy's dirty and one more.

Speaker 15 (36:24):
Thing some for I hang up. Do you think these
defensive coaches do? Are they just biased that have played
the position? Because I saw Dione Sanders the other day
saying that that hit on his own son, his own player,
his quarterback, wasn't the hit which the door got hit
on Kansas and nothing got called. And to me, that
hit was more blatant and dirty than the than the

(36:44):
Turror hit.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
So I'm just kind of wondering what you think on that, man,
and I'll hang up and listen to you.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Yeah, I've and I may not be the guy to
answer this because it's I'm different as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I lean towards the defense. I do. I think the
defense gets hosed.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
And I think there is a fine line between being
a guy who we look at and the word ah man,
he's a physical, aggressive, fly to the ball guy. And
then you fly to the ball and you hit late,
and all of a sudden you're a dirty player. I
think the only way you can do it is when
you hear people talk it's where the late hit takes place.
In my mind, said you're trying to figure out because

(37:24):
I'm with you, Damian. I look at it and I
want to say, I want al Shy here on my team.
If he plays against me, I want to fight him.
And I get that. And that's I've had. I've been
teammates with players that when they played somewhere else, was
like I couldn't stand him. When they came to our team,
I got it. And so there's a perspective there. But
I always lean to the defense, not always, but for
the most part, because I know they get hosed on

(37:46):
some of these hits. It's like, are you kidding me?
Are you really kidding me? That's what we teach in football,
and you're going to penalize a guy for hitting a
guy solid with his shoulder pad to the torso and
the side of his helmet grazed a fan going by
and it was no intent. I think intent has something
to do with it. And where if I see a
guy that when you're hamming around a pile and you

(38:07):
see a guy crawling to and driving it, a guy's
knees constantly with his helmet, I got a problem with it. Eventually,
if you see it enough, you'll say that dude's trying
to end somebody's career. And if you see a guy
that's constantly going to the head with the crowd of
his helmet or hitting late constantly, I think there's got
to be some of a purgatory where you're like, Okay,

(38:28):
enough's enough. I can go through players that were labeled
dirty when I was playing, leave them out, I mean,
and it's not fun. Berfect is the probably the one
that most people know more recently that is like, oh
my gosh. But I think it's the number of times,
how consistent and where the hits take place. So there
is a fine line flying to the ball and asking
a defensive guy to stop on a dime and not

(38:50):
hit a guy. He won't make a team, he'll get
cut because the coaches look so coaches, yeah, they'll lean
to it. And I don't know a coach in my
life that doesn't lie like over aggressive football players. I'd
much rather have over aggressive than a guy dude, are
you gonna are you gonna compete today?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Right?

Speaker 5 (39:08):
And so you there is that final line. You don't
teach dirty stuff. Nobody I wouldn't imagine. I'd like to
hope that no coaches out to say, when that guy
starts to slide, you hit him right in the head.
It's unfortunate because you are as a defensive guy, O
Cam coming around and then you think, well, how do
I stop now? So there there is final line. There
is and I get it, but you just have to

(39:28):
do it. So how do you tell? And Dion's a
defensive guy, He's watched it. He knows and it wasn't
playing favorites. If he didn't, if he thought it was
a fair hit, then he's gonna judge it how he does.
So I lean more towards the defense on these hits
because I think the defense gets hose. Yet I played
the position where we overprotect it. So I get it,
but I don't. I don't like it. And I'm not

(39:48):
one to just jump out and call a guy a
dirty player because he has a couple of late hits
or does something. It's when they start to at it.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
When you'll know is when the players start talking about it,
not me, not you, not a fan. Is when the
players start to say head on alert, that's the guy,
you go get him. And when it comes to that,
players know all of it, They know who should be
starting on their team. They know who the good guys are,
and they even know if the guy's dirty on their
own team or not. But I think that's the only

(40:16):
way to tell, because I don't want to tell a
guy to quit being aggressive, but you do have to
be smart. That's part and parcel to being a great
football player.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I play.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
I mean, Ronnie Lott was as fierce as it got.
I don't know how guys like Ronnie Lot or Kenny
Easley would have survived in this league. They would have survived,
don't misunderstanding. They're good enough. As a matter of fact.
I don't know anybody that's better than them still, but
they would have survived, but they would have been fined
a lot of money. Yeah, it would be hard on them.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, And I think there's a difference between just straight
up dirty and over aggressive. Like no Domikan sue dirty player.
Dude kicked everybody in the nuts quite literally.

Speaker 7 (40:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Now see that's you know, like Draymond Green's.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
A dirty players say, that's exactly what I was leading to,
Draymond Green, the NBA dirty player. Those dudes quite they
would kick dudes in their rooin.

Speaker 16 (41:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
See there's there. Like I said, dirty started. The evidence
shows the dirty players. Yeah, guy standing around a pile.
Then all of a sudden, guy goes and flies at
his knees when the guy's got him up around the
upper body.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Come on, man, you know better than that. So yeah,
you are one n correct.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
And yeah, the Vonte is perfect head hunt for every
well dirty player.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Yeah yeah, dirt dirty player. Yeah came across the middle. Dude,
you really dirty player though. Yeah, so, but you got
to And eventually what happens to coaches. While they love
physical players and aggressive players, what you can't have is
that guy who constantly puts your You can't have the
personal foul guy, be like Laramie tunseel Is with with

(41:44):
off sidees penalty, with the legal procedure. If you've got
a guy committing that kind of where every other game
he's hitting somebody in the head. And now we get
to the point, dude, you're aggressive. You're just not smart, right, Okay,
you got to be better that. You got to think
smarter than that. We we ain't playing at home where
there's no penalties, where you can beat up your buddy
in the park and have fun playing football and not
be held accountable. Here you get fine, and it cost

(42:05):
us penalties and we lose games. So you can't do it.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
But I have a.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Hard time wanting my aggressive guys to back off I do.
They just got to be smarter and and I would
have reacted like Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Did as well. Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4 (44:22):
Do you even talk about the East Houston Texans. Seven one, three, two,
two five, seven ninety is the number to join. Jenneth,
thank you for alling.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Good morning.

Speaker 13 (44:30):
Okay, I probably wouldn't even have come in and uh
this thing't didn't grow so many legs, man.

Speaker 19 (44:38):
Because I just saw it as a.

Speaker 13 (44:40):
As another hit of uh you know, flag all that
stuff there. But you know, I came up in a
town I'm not. I'm about uh uh the age around
uh uh you know where uh back when they you know,

(45:02):
just about every play what right now you get flagged
for was every just about every play?

Speaker 19 (45:09):
You know.

Speaker 13 (45:09):
God said this morning, well you know what, you took
words out of my mouth, how certain players couldn't play
today because I think that your big buckets, which I
was a big fan of. I wanted to be like him,
and he wouldn't make it through one or two series
in today's game. But that's just part of the evolution
of the game. And certain sports evolved. Boxing heven't. But

(45:31):
you know, football is just evolving. And then just the
way it's gonna be, but uh, you're pretty good with facts, Brian,
and I.

Speaker 20 (45:38):
Wanted to ask if you know anything.

Speaker 13 (45:41):
Was this Derek Stingly related to Daryl Stingley, the one
that got paralyzed by Jack Tatum. And I was wondering
about that because that was uh, if I'm looking at
it right, that was his grandfather.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
And that they are related.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
He was a New England Patriots wide receiver who Jack
Tatum hit and unfortunately was paralyzing.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
A great player. But yes, they are family his grandfather.

Speaker 13 (46:08):
Because because it hit me because back then I was
playing ball and I just seen it part of the
sport and and it was what Tatum said and a
lot of people got to take that an account.

Speaker 19 (46:24):
He said he apologized.

Speaker 13 (46:26):
About what happened, but he say he's never going to
apologize for.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
The way he played.

Speaker 13 (46:35):
And you know, I think people need to come, you know,
kind of look at it from that perspective. And one
last thing, and we're talking about they talking about the
savagery of things and.

Speaker 20 (46:47):
Stuff like that right there.

Speaker 13 (46:48):
Man, when when when Al Shall was uh you know,
he was going out, people were throwing stuff at him.
You know this this you know, the fans were singing
to a level, and I'm correct. I remember a game
and I don't have all the facts, but I think
I remember a game where a flag was thrown and
the team was penalized because of the fans with what

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they did.

Speaker 20 (47:12):
Did you do anything on that?

Speaker 5 (47:14):
And I'm hang out, I think thanks a lot Kenneth
for the car. I think that's happened more than once
and once in football were fans they've been warned and
they get out of hand and then they end up
getting penalized. That that's happened multiple times over the course
of football lifespan. And yes, inexcusable take care of on
the field to throw stuff at Al Shayer as well.
There's no doubt fans fans. We've given fans too big

(47:37):
a hall pass in the stands.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
They matter of fact, if Al Shier wants to do
a late hit, there's a couple of fans and Shurf
can go up there and join him and take care
of those fans. And it's usually the guy they wouldn't
go out there and put his ass on when right,
so they can hide behind everything else. Those are the cowards.
So if you're throwing something on the field, you're a bit.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
You just are straight up you're you're you're, you're a loser,
and I don't care who you are. You are, that's
exactly I'm talking to you, whoever you are, that's exactly right.
So enough in Jacksonville. Don't do it here. Don't do
it anything.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I don't know what they think.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Well, I paid for the ticket, Yeah, did you pay
for the ass whooping that we're allowed that you don't
want if somebody comes up in the stands to give
it to you, you don't want that. So it did that.
That doesn't give you a haul pass to throw stuff.
It's inexcusable. There's there's layers of inexcusable stuff. There's no question.
Back to the hit though, and I saw the hit
a million times growing up a Raider fan, and as

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Jack Tatum, he's right, he is sorry for that, and
he said it, but nobody wants Jack Tatum to be
sorry for the way he played. He was physical, intimidating
and scary. But at that point in time, that's those
hits were legal normal.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yes, it was. It was. It was regularly and.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
It's unfortunate how it the the end result for Darryl Stingley,
who was a great player. Tatum didn't hit him to
put him in a wheelchair. That I do know. But unfortunately,
and that's the scary part of this game where I listen,
there's a lot of physicality. It's not physical sport. It's
a violent sport.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
It just is.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
But we also if you're gonna play it and pay
it and all that, you've got to understand that legal
clean hits on the field that are vicious, you can't
reprimand a guy for that right, not show that's part
of the sport. That's exactly right. It's been that way forever.
Why we have a problem with a quarterback who the

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ball's just coming out of his hand, the guy's are
half a step away and puts his helmet into his
sternum and you're falling back. I mean, you're the quarterbacks
flying backward, and you're the guy you've come on a
blitz from the strong safety and you are going on
hundred miles an hour to get there before the balls
let go, and you half step balls coming out boom,
you take the hit I was telling you about to
how Dan Fouts wants to But it's a helmet to

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the sternum and the guy is flying through can't just
stop and not land on him. And they're gonna call
that a penalty because you Lanta, So you throw your
hands out in Lanta up. You drove through him. I
didn't really try to drive him into the ground. I
just can't stop my moment. What are you supposed to do?
And they will flag it regularly because yeah, and then

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the quarterbacks listen. And quarterbacks while they don't I know
some don't like the rules, but what does their head
do the second they take just a normal hit, their
head snaps to the referee like you're gonna call it.
You're gonna call it. There's no doubt quarterbacks, I'm not
saying that they are. Oh, they couldn't play back then.
There's plenty of quarterbacks could have played back then, and
there's plenty of guys who could have played now. Matter
of fact, more now, why even though we don't move,

(50:40):
Marino ain't running rpo, but he's gonna throw it enough
and urgent enough. It don't matter what league or what
you're playing and what your rules are. The guys gonna
destroy you with the football in his hand. But they
can both play. Then it's the They have made it
simpler for the quarterback because you know that you're not
gonna take those hits.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
It doesn't mean it's easy. Maybe a little easier on
the on the body, but the rule and those are
the rules.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
And if you're playing by the rules, if you're a quarterback,
hell wouldn't we all love to say you're about as
close to a red jersey as you're ever gonna get, right,
milk it. Yeah, I get it, But I'm not backing
a player off from hitting. You just got to distinguish
and be able to delineate between what's dirty and what isn't.
But I can't tell a guy not.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
To play hard.

Speaker 18 (51:23):
See.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
I think that goes more into like the control that
the league has. Like just watch every time Patrick Mahomes
hits the ground. I'm gonna try to pick on him.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
He's the best to do it right now, but he's
over He's overprotected, man, exactly. He knows it too.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
And when he hits the ground, if he thinks it's
anywhere close, he looks directly at the ref to try
to get a flag. Remember the hit or the non
hit a couple of weeks ago that we talked about
where he went out to the sideline and like all
the national media was like, oh my god, what a
play by Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
And I asked you about it. These guys are scared
to hit him because the don't want to get penalty.
Of course.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Like that's the stuff that I'm talking that's the league
control that I that I have an issue with. And
that's where it goes into over protecting these quarterbacks, especially
Patrick Mahomes and.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
The good ones. The NFL offices have become big government. Yes,
way too much control. That's exactly right. They have become
big government where it's like, listen, dude, we got eleven
of them. You pay the guy fifty five million a
year or sixty or one hundred whatever, we're gonna end
up paying him when they're out of the pocket and
they take a vicious hit.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Oh well yeah, well and then to be able to
pull the oakie. OK.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
And I understand you want to protect your guys, but
why is the quarterback more important than the right tackle?

Speaker 7 (52:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (52:33):
I don't think that's to me, that's such a you
talk about elitist stuff. Yeah, to tell me that the
left tackles need that got blown out isn't as important
as the quarterback's finger is I understand there's people don't
go to watch left tackle, but we do go to I.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Can tell you this.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
You watch that left tackle when you jumping off sides
four times of getting your ass handed to and getting
hit in the back all the time. Why is the
nose tackle not as important as the quarterback? I don't
get it. Well, he's the star, and he's the face
of the team. Well, unless you're the Cowboys, the face
of the team's Jerry Jones. But to me, it's like, well,
we want all this, and yet you're basically saying you're

(53:10):
not as important as him. Right once you leave the
pocket to me, we can hunt you any way we want. Yeah,
and if you're going into a slide, we can't hunt
you like al Shire did. And I don't think he
hunted him to hurt him. I just think that he
got a little over zealous.

Speaker 15 (53:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
And I don't appreciate the straight bullet me and my program.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Well, Jerry, Jerry, you're gonna going to continue to lose
as long as you are the face of the organization.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Michael Parson says, we coming, When where are we going?
We yeah, they won two in a row, and he
literally said on his podcast, were coming?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Where you going? Yeah, I'm sure you are.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
I'm sure you are, but yeah maybe when you're yeah,
but see now you're coming, but nobody's paying attention to right,
you're coming, all right, but there's a lot of distance
between you and the guys that have already came, no
pun intended.

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Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety All right.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 3 (55:20):
The Salisbury's takeouts? Salsbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Got a time for the stake out here on the
Seawan Salisbury Show. Sean Bryn at TRIPLEI Rockets Kings nine
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home for Rockets, Basketball, Texans and the bye week Broncos
beat the Browns Monday Night Football. For the stakeout question, Sean,
you ready to hear for the latest gimmick BS in
Major League Baseball?

Speaker 9 (55:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Wait, my favorite this is coming.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
An article by Ryan Phillips of Sports Illustrated SI dot com,
Rob Manfred has revealed the golden at bat rule. It's
been discussed at owners meetings and there's quote unquote buzz
around MLB owners.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
You're ready to hear what this is? You know what
he could do with buzz? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (56:13):
I know exactly buzz on over the right. Yeah, yeah,
all right, buzz all right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
There are a variety of rule change ideas that are
being talked about, and uh, one of them there was
a little buzz around it at the owner's meetings, was
the idea of a golden at bat. Manfred said on
the Varsity podcast. The golden at bat is a concept
is that a team could choose one at bat in

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every game to use its best hitter, regardless of where
they are in the lineup. So if say the New
York Yankees had the bases loading and two outs in
the bottom of the ninth, they could bring in Aaron
Judge to the plate, even if it wasn't his turn
in the owner.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Well, they would the postseason.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Whoa, that's true, though he couldn't have water you spell
out of a boat in theme in October.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Excuse me. It's like Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
Whoa, whoa straight into Judge and I call him Judge
King Tuck.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
So it would be a one time replacement, not a
sub like a pinch hitter.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Stop it would you would you?

Speaker 14 (57:22):
What are we?

Speaker 1 (57:23):
What is this? Little League? This is worse than Little League?
What a clown? Show gimmick.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
He also said, uh, that rule and things like that
are in conversation right now, and Bob, that's why we
have a pinch hitter.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Oh mom, you could what your gold mit bat? What
is this?

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 21 (57:48):
Stupid?

Speaker 4 (57:50):
So when I read it, when I read it last night,
I saw the title and I was like, dude, this
is a fake.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
This is fake. No, it came straight from SG.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
You told me that. I said that it's got to
be fake. Yeah, Cake came shot me racist too. I
don't know why it does. Gold It's got to be racist.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Golden.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
What does he mean by golden? You know what's who's golden?
I feel like that's kind of racist. You know what
do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Exactly?

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Well, here's what I want for that rule. I want
you a golden shower all over that rule. Okay, okay,
stop it? Are we serious?

Speaker 1 (58:19):
And for him?

Speaker 9 (58:20):
But we are?

Speaker 5 (58:20):
We say, uh, your eight titters coming to the plate
bottom of the eighth. Now the video game part of it,
You're like, this is cool. The realistic baseball, the way
it's supposed to be played. Hey, Aaron, you just struck
out or hey, Tuck, we need you go out there.

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You're gonna pinch it in the in the eighth inning.
It's noting pitching. You get the golden at bat? Yeah, yep,
I mean, aren't you gonna golden? Aren't you gonna gold
mit bats? So basically Otani's getting five at bats a
game pretty much, you're gonna golden at bat. Your Soto
gets a gold bit bat every time. Yeah, I just listen.
We have got to stop this. You know, I would

(59:04):
love one off season, to go into an off season
where we actually ruled down instead of rule up.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Well, why why would we do this? This isn't this?
Why would yet? But he's trying to make it.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
I love the Savannah bananas for the right reason, for
the reasons, for the entertained reasons, not in major league Baseball.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
So we get a golden at bat? So does that mean?
So what do we do? How do we do it?
What's the rule for a picture?

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Now?

Speaker 5 (59:32):
What are we going to give him? He gets one
batter a game where he can doctor the baseball. Let's
do let's do that, ye spider tack, how about that?
Though you're the pitcher, you're going good and all of
a sudden, they've put this golden ticket in and you're
a guy. You've already faced the guy and it's like
left hand or right handed. You know, now you got

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to pull your starter out because you want to get
a guy to face him, because he homered off the
guy at the time before yet the pictures going good.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
It was your one pitch.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
I didn't no, no, no no, And I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
There's a committee that's got to pass this, right, rules
can write what why there's already buzz. If there's a
ground swell for this, get these old white guys out
of baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
You thank you. It's always it's the old white guy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
If there's a ground swell for this, it's time to
kick the old white guy right in his nuts and
get him out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Jem out ownership.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Yes it is hold on, yes, yes, old stodgy whitey. Yeah,
exactly right. As a matter of fact, by calling him whitey,
it's even more racist. Okay, you're exactly right. And you
know what, I'm allowed to say it because i'm whitey too. Okay,
So there you have it. How many yes, one more time?

(01:00:47):
How the old rich white Yeah that sounds good. I
haven't watched nine innings of a game. I mean, I'm
not saying for there's not an umbrella statement over all
of them. It's tongue in cheek, joking about only but
it feels like holy white guy's own may Major leagueball teams. Right,
it's way, But can you rich white guys have a

(01:01:08):
little discretion and not pass this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yeah, golden at bat? Yeah, whoever's in the cond be,
don't don't don't do it?

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Okay, all right, Whitey on the moon man, good gracious,
could you stop with the golden ab tickets?

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
How about salary? Not next thing? You know, the next thing?

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
You know, we're gonna be giving away the golden ticket.
Guy's gonna fly away in a hot air balloon to
Willie Walker's chocolate factory and be able to be the first.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I mean, everybody wanted the million dollar.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Golden ticket or whatever it was, right, Would you just
stop it with this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I cannot believe this is actually real.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
I can't believe that there's ground swell for it. Yeah,
apparently there's buzz.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
H I know what they can buzz Okay, Oh my god,
are you are you serious? Yes? Come on, man, tell me,
that's a gimmick. You're kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
I mean, it's a gimmick, but I'm not kill It's
a legit article, it's a legit podcast. And Rob Manford
claims that there is buzz around the league between MLB
owners for a golden at bat rule.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Our do our listeners want this? No? Right? No, we
got smartlest they don't want this?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
No, how often are we going to try to listen?
I understand things change over the course of time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
They do.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Rules change a society, government, things change, and sometimes we
need them to change because archaic, right, But we also
get to the point change just to change this does
not make the game better. If you're a picture, aren't
you saying? Oh hell no, you're not even allowing us
to blow into our hands standing on the mound, right,
don't we got I don't remember. Back in the day

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you can lick your fingers unless you stood. I don't
know is that still in I can't they change them
so often you couldn't lick your fingers standing on the mound.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
You had to step off, and I lick your fingers?
Is that still the rule? Step off? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Okay, but let me throw a fat cat ball right
down that you know what to Tani for his seventh
at bat because he got a golden ticket. What oh,
by the way, see, pitchers are like defense. We give
them no shot against good hitters. Right yet we always
say pitching, which championship Conesota's defense. It's it's beyond me. Man,

(01:03:23):
don't don't do it. Don't friggin' do it. Can I
get a commissioner that when somebody broaches this, you say
this subject, you say.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
We're not changing any rules this offseason.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
This offseason is going to be spent on, you know,
upgrading food in stadiums. If that's yourint lowering ticket price.
How about here's my suggestion. One offseason for all these
rich millionaire billionaire owners and for all the fans and players.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
I got an idea.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
While the players the play in game over here in
the tournament in the NBA, they get a million dollars
if they win it, baseball and incentive and you're gonna
go get it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Everybody's getting paid more.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Once again, let me go to this seat at the table,
who doesn't get it, the fan? I got a real
good idea, take those rules and stick them. Okay in
this change for once and spend your off season finding
ways to lower ticket prices and food prices and your beer,
or lower your your prices in the stadium and the

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ticket prices for one year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Let's see how that works just once.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
Great, So how about that rule we spend it? These
rules are for the fans. You know what we're taking.
You're getting twenty percent, twenty percent less on your ticket
the whole year, and we're not allowed to price gouge
you during a good series one time. And your beers
are now this year, the beers are twenty five percent
off the entire year. Hot dogs are hot dogs are
twenty five percent. Everything is twenty to twenty five percent. Well, Sean,

(01:04:49):
they wouldn't do that because it's the bottom line. Well,
you want them to show up. People show up on
a dollar dog di right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
You made it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
If you made it, let's spend one year telling the
fans how grateful we are, not by getting them as
signed baseball, tell them how grateful they are across baseball.
Did they continue to show up no matter what? And
let's have the bonus disc The golden ticket this year
is fans twenty percent off tickets, food for every baseball

(01:05:20):
and hats and all in the stadium for every single game,
eighty one home games or on the road, wherever you go,
every stadium, all thirty teams have. It's twenty percent off
on everything you do in the stadium, food tickets the
whole year, and off your season tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Tell you what, Old Whitey ain't gonna like that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
Yeah, but you know what, the reason Old Whitey's got
a lot of cake and a lot of coin and
a lot of iron is because people sitting in the
stands keep showing up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Right, So let's reward with the rule.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Let's make the rule twenty percent discount all across baseball,
inside the stadium's tickets and all your food and beverage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
How's that? What do you think they do?

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
Call that the golden ticket and give it to the
fans for once, just one time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
We turned it so corporate. Now the average fan can't
go to five right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
On storad of giving us a golden ticket where guy
gets a sixth bat in the game, no matter where
he is in the lineup.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Yeah, when when playoffs get here, it's a corporate show,
especially at Minima Park.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Same way in the NFL, same way they price you
out hell the corporate show with the dog on A
and M Texas game last week.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Yeah, did you see the uh they released it yesterday?
That ticket was the most expensive regular season ticket in
all of football college and NFL average.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
It's crazy and it was filled to the rim. Ever,
one hundred and over, one hundred and nine to five
hundred thousand. Somebody had to pay for those tickets. Yeah,
it's crazy. Now do the mouth on how much money
they actually made from that ball game? Right? My goodness?

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
How about a golden ticket to reward the fans for
one season and see how see how people get to
the ballpark and how how your attendance goes through the roof.
It'll it'll always go through what watch the attendance not
only bust through the roof. Take it to a whole
new level. Right, golden ticket the fans one time instead
of change a rule to make it more gimmicky than
it already.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Is, what are we going to do next? Well, what
are we going to do next?

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The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
More interceptions, Sean, you're ready, You're ready to hear Jamis
Winston and his postgame presser.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Yeah, He's priceless, man, He's the gift that keeps on giving. Here,
sam as Winston all his interceptions last night.

Speaker 22 (01:08:51):
I am, I am, I am a I am a
better player, you know, but in times like this, you
knows is it's the opportunity to continues to go the
lure even through the toughest circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
I know him better than this, I know.

Speaker 22 (01:09:08):
I'm like, I'm just praying for the Lord to deliver
me from pick sixes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Like that's just that's not me.

Speaker 22 (01:09:15):
Like phenomenal game offense do some great things, but I
missed it up.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Delivered me from my father that kingdom come. I will
be done on earth, that is as it is in Heaven.
Give us his day bread, for give us of our trespass.
We forgive those who trespassed against us, and lead us
not to temptation, but deliver us to be the kingdom
and glory forever. We're gonna change it, but deliver us

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from Jamis throwing sis pick six. Yeah, kick the glory
forever and ever a been. Oh he's friseless. I think
the Lord's The Lord's got a sense of humor.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Yeah he does. And also he's probably throwing a couple
of pick sick.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
I don't think he's ever thrown No, no, no, never, never,
never throw the pick six.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Nothing that nothing but Jameis has But I love it.
He goes bought.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
The Lord will deliver me for pick six. The Lord's
got to laugh. Dude, you got a seat next to
me at Heaven. Anybody who comes up with that gotta
do it. Hey, uh, drop back. But here's what the
Lord doesn't do. If you drop back and throw a
ball late into the flat or to the sideline and
your guy either falls down or it's late, you miss
the throw, it's hard for the Lord to deliver you

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from the Lord wants to help you, but he also
got to help yourself a little bit. But I love
the guy. I mean, I love James Winston more now than.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
I ever have.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
The guy's resilient supports his teammates seems like teammates love him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
The guy can rip it. I mean he he can't.
Honest to God, he can throw it. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
I contend that he's a far better pure passer of
the football than the guy they paid all that money for.

Speaker 22 (01:10:57):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
You can you can survive, just like you could with
Watson paying Winston a lot less. And you're gonna get
more production in the passing game. Yeah, and you won't.
You get less excuses too. But I love how it's like. Man, Hell,
if the Lord would deliver us all from throwing pick sixes,
we'd all joined in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
But I like his style. I love his faith. The
Lord is that. I'm serious, He's got to be like
this day.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Just James Winston, Dude, I could work with him. Yeah,
I don't care about those crab legs anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
I'm in. I'm all in on on Jamis. So Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
I love the guy man, and he can rip it.
It's just unfortunate. He's just he believes in his skill
set his arms so much. He just makes some bad
decisions and the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
One in the red zone last night was so bad.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
He thinks he can throw it anywhere and that then,
you know what I love is confidence. But like when
to take the hit, you got to know when to
when to deliver your own self from the picks by
throwing it to your mom in the stands or your
buddy in the stands.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Right, he was three yards awa from throwing for five
bills last night, four ninety seven yards passing, four touchdowns,
three interceptions, delivered me from.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
A gat line. How do you not love the guy? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
He's got some one liners. Man, he sure does throughout
his career. I mean, just sure between eat a dubb
and he eats dubbs.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Man, he ate a bunch of yards last night. I
like him. I do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
My goodness, it'll be in the league forever because he
can start and back up for you, and he's got
a good attitude.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
He's a gift that keeps on giving. Did you have
any teammates defenses at times too, but he can throw it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Did you have any teammates in your career in the
NFL or college that just were like him, like just
kind of weird, kind of cheesy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Yeah, Well, you know what, I've had a lot of guys,
but guys love a guy like that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
But I think I think Jamis Winston like I think
Cheess Factor.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I think Russell Wilson for sure. That stuff, his.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Stuff is forced. Well at times feels think exactly. I
think this is who James Winston is. He means every
single word that he says genuinely.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
So it's maybe it's not fake or it's for me
or ches. It's just he just beats to a different drum.
He's just different. And the dude has I respect anybody.
It's got as much faith. And I mean he wants
the Lord to put his hands all that all those laces,
to throw it for it and I don't believe him,
but he can throw it the Lord.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
I'll tell you what. The Lord did.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Bless him with the skill set in And it feels
to me like teammates really like him.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Yeah, he seems like he genuine guy. Yeah, just a
little different man. You know what, that's okay, just a
little different. We need guys like James Winston in the league.
We need guys like James Winston society, and yes, every
team has a guy that you like. Man, he beats
to a different drum. But I love this guy, oh yeah,
there's no doubt. But then there's always that one guy
that beats to a different drum is also cheesy. And

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he's the first guy out of the tunnel with the flag.
Oh yeah, that never replaced. Oh yeah, you gotta love
him too. Somebody's got to carry that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
And truth is, you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
Got to think about Javis. Just from my perspective, those
guys will feel like they rally around.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Yeah, I mean interceptions do you think he has in
his career a lot?

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
He threw more in one season than Brady the guys
like Breeze will throw in five years.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
He threw thirty interceptions back in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Twenty nineteens and thirty plus touchdowns thirty three touchdowns through
for over five thousand years.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
Seeing Bruce arians, I'm Bruce like he probably his head
was gonna explode, Like I love.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
What this is this guy is all about. But please
quit throwing the ball to the other team because they
can throws. Yeah, in his career, he's got a lot
of them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
One hundred and six. How many touchdown passes touchdowns? One
hundred and fifty two.

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
I let you know what I'll tell you what he
doesn't do. He ain't afraid to throw it to places. No,
he doesn't play scared. I know that here to lay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
No, he did.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
He he's a guy that's going to for he Jameis Witz,
did you got a golf club in your hand? It's
green side, bunkers and water. Yeah, buy the bunkers, going
for it. The pin is on a backshelf that if
you're I mean, it's tucked in a place.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
You can't hit it there.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
And unless you hit the perfect shot, you got no
shot and you can't get it there. It's like the
amateur who does it and you're waiting in a fair way, Like, dude,
you're two seventy with a three wood. You're a twenty
eight handicap. You're not getting there. Lay up and keep
it moving. Jamis is the guy who hit a thinks
he can hit a three wood two ninety eight and
land it soft okay, And you're like and then he

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looks at you and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Says, man, I don't know it's three wood too much expect.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Said now, dude, I think three hundred yards is plenty
on your three wood. You'll be good unless your last
name Scheffler or or Shambo that I say, Well, the
Shambo's hitting pitching wedge. I know they bit a Grade
two twenty Okay, whatever it is. It's like these guys
are nuts. But yeah, that's who jamis is. He looks
he like Sean. You think I should go for it? No, dude,
it's a six hundred and thirty yard par five and

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you're three hundred yards away the water. You're gonna have
to roll with it. I don't know how you're gonna
get it there. There's it's it's impossible shot.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
You know. Maybe I think the Good Lord deliver me
from the water.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
Had a high cut to the right, good placed and
I'm going three hundred with the three wood shot?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Is it too much?

Speaker 9 (01:16:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Can you hit a driver off the deck. You're not
getting that there. But he's still gonna do it. And
you know what, God love him for it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Man, Just praying for the Lord to deliver me from
these pick sixes. What a what a line? That's a bar, priceless,
That is a bar.

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Speaker 23 (01:18:13):
Yes, yeah, yes, I have a question for you experts
to comment on. And also I thought of one more
thing else.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
It's real quick.

Speaker 23 (01:18:23):
But okay, Scherif said, uh, basically, quote unquote, I try
to hit people so hard that they won't get up,
but then I pray that you do get up. Okay,
So so there's a contradiction there but does football need

(01:18:44):
to be played at that level or can we have
a hard hitting, enjoyable game without you trying to put
somebody down and out of the game. And then the
second question is is it true this year that the

(01:19:04):
person that got scared has to say so and the penalty,
like Trevor Lawrence will have a say so? And what
do you think that outcome might be? And I'll just
sit back and listen to you guys, okay, like I always.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Do, appreciate you. Connor James, Thanks James.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
I he said, well, should there be a rule where
Trevor Lawrence has a saying it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Or does Trevor Lawrence the player? I wouldn't mind.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
I wouldn't mind the player being able to say I
would find a but no, suspend, I wouldn't mind that.
I don't think that's a bad idea for the offices
to call the player and say, hey, man, we're doing this,
what did you feel? But then again, if we know
the player's got to say in it, then you know
what the players will say. Well if they find you know,

(01:19:54):
somebody will leak. Oh he said that, you know what
was said, and then you get on the bad side
of the players. Right, and you don't want to do that.
So they're never gonna they're gonna take that. They want
to take that rule. They want to take those situations
out of the players. I like because there's been times
when somebody will has hit me in the pass and
say it wasn't a cheap hit. Matter of fact, it
was a real good hit and not to get suspended for.

(01:20:16):
But they went to somebody it's like you almost pat him,
like damn, oh yeah, and fair, legal and unloaded. It
was vicious, but it was fair, No problem, James. I
don't think you're ever going to see now, maybe with
the way rules change, who knows. I don't think we
can ever have a game where I tell my guys
hit them hard, but don't try to separate their head
from a football. I don't mean hit them in the

(01:20:37):
head if I'm teaching it my goal when if I'm
a safety, when that ball is in the air, I
am teaching everything I can legally, as vicious as possible,
as explosive as possible. I don't teach them to hit
to the player. I hate them to hit through the player.
So when you hit the front side of his jersey,
i'd like you to hit through the backside, I just

(01:20:58):
would not him in bad Stay away from the knees,
stayway from the head. I always appreciated it before these
rules were in when a guy who had a clean
shot in the back at me hit me in the
upper back, not in the lower part of the knees
to buckle. You hit you in that upper back where
kind of pads are on you're a little thicker.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I always appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
Why it felt like he was looking out for me
as well, or looking out for a player. Hit me
hard and wrapped up and drove you. The fact that
he didn't go down to where it's a little more
vulnerable made it easier, right with that whiplash effect, right,
I don't think wherever I can't. I don't know how
I could teach a player, Hey, when you get to him,
just give him an eighty percent shot. I think every

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defensive guy's goal is to hit you as hard as
he can separate you from the football. Why wouldn't it
be and hope that you don't get hurt. That's the
way it's got to be, because in truth, if you
play I don't want to say softer, but less aggressive
than that. Yeah, I think that you'll there'll be more injuries.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Yeah, I think that there'll be more injury. But I
also think that you won't be as good. No, of
course not, and that's not help make the plays that
you need to make. Can you imagin Jalen Petrie's not
built like that. No, Lewis is not built like that.
You just get TJ. Watt stops built like that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
But I think there's this feeling of I'm gonna hit
him as hard as I can legally and hope that
nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
And that's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
That's why it's tackle football, and there's big money and
it's gambling and billionaires involved. But I'm never telling a player, hey,
hit him a little softer. I'm telling a player, you
hit him, you hit it. If legally, I hit him
as hard as he hands and unfortunately his rib cage,
it would crack the rib and I hit him legal unfortunate,

(01:22:41):
But we're going to miss you for the next month,
but good luck. I hope you're okay. Just Is without
trying to hurt him, but I want them to. I
My goal is to teach guys to explode through them
and hit him as hard as you possibly can. Fairly right,
and it's I wouldn't expect that from anything else, anybody
hitting me either.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Yeah, this isn't played with guard caps and flags. Right,
and listen, and now guy's running to the sideline. You
know he wants to go out of bounds. Now, some
of the more vicious because you know what players do
when they're getting to the sidelines, they relax.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Now there's a way.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
In the pocket to relax your body when you're taking
a hit to protect yourself, but they relax. So the hits,
the whiplash is so vicious, right, But I just to me,
it's really players. I think there's a sense of respect knowing, hey,
man got him down, you're not gonna you're not gonna
slam him into the ground and stuff. But when you're
running through a guy or a guy's gonna make a catch,

(01:23:34):
you don't want to soft sell it. You want to
unload on his ass. Legally. Unfortunately, now we even penalize
legal hits because they're vicious. But yeah, I'm okay with
vicious legal hits on me or on somebody else and
hope that nobody gets hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Yeah, that's how it should be. Yep, that's how it
should be.

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He got a heated Heisman race as well. Let's talk
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Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
And as we get into the eight o'clock hour, breaking
news coming out of the NFL, Texans linebacker asis al
Shai here Uh suspended three games for his it on
Trevor Lawrence. The VP of the Football Ops of the NFL,
John Runyon saying, quote, your lack of sportsmanship and respect

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for the game of football and all those who play,
coach and enjoy watching it is troubling.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
It does not reflect the core values of the NFL.
End quote John runy in what position do you think
he played in the league? Oh, my goodness, was her quarterback?

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
No, he played offensive lineman for a long time. Well
there you go, and protecting quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Right, my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:25:28):
And John's been, you know, part of that for a
minute now. And John was a was a good football
player himself. I don't believe this is I don't believe
this is a one time. It's remember I said yesterday
when somebody had called in about four to four day
all four games, I thought, well, man, that's CBA. Well

(01:25:49):
you know that's a ped thing, and the CBA may
not allow you on a hit to do four day.
I don't know what the rules are of the protocol.
I don't know because those change as well. But this
is a steep fine and and that's three I'm sure
it's three missed game checks too. I would imagine they're
going to find him for not playing. I don't know
that answer, but I can tell you this that he

(01:26:12):
that that's that's steep and heavy. I don't believe this
is a one off. I believe this has cumulative effect
on him. I believe that you know, the shot to
the Bears he's had. I think they look at the
compilation and say, this guy's when I say repeat offender,
this guy's been in situations more than once.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
And so that's just my opinion. I don't believe they
just saw it and said, you know, dirty part, let's
do it. I think they like you and like you
see all over social media. Think, okay, is there a
history here? And unfortunately for him, not like on Lawrence,
but there is a history of late hit, out of bounds,
punch of guy in the face when there's a bunch
of people sitting around in the helmet. This is steep

(01:26:58):
and it's sending a loud message that they're not going
to tolerate it, and it's it's gonna it's hurtful. And
then he and I don't think his response helped on
the field. Yeah, so wait, the lack of remorse, I
guess you'd say the vp uh run Runyon said. And

(01:27:18):
this is an official statement from the NFL, and I
haven't seen this statement.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
So it says, quote after the illegal hit, you proceeded
to engage in a brawl, which you escalated when you
pulled an opponent down to the ground by his face mask.
After the referee announced that you were disqualified for the
hit and your unsportsman like acts. You removed your helmet
and re engaged with your opponent while walking down and
across the field, which started another physical confrontation near the
end zone. And then he goes on to continue to

(01:27:44):
say the lack of sportsmanship, which I already read. He's
going to be eligible to return to the roster following
following the team's Week seventeen game against Baltimore, so he's
going to be out against the Dolphins, the Chiefs, and
the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
Do you think that warranted M three games?

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
I think when you read this statement and you think
about other things that have happened this year and the
optics and the fight afterwards and not leaving the field immediately, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
I do too.

Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
If you're if you're trying to send a safety message, yes,
and a respect and integrity message on the field, I
think it's it's uh, it's it's sucks but fair. Remember
you Rob Peter, you pay Paul. I don't want him
to not be aggressive. You want him to be you know,
wise and how he approaches it and how he plays
the game. But sometimes we don't send loud enough messages

(01:28:36):
and so it's oh, one game, but that's not that
big a deal. But three games, that's a lot of money,
and that's a lot of miss football at a time
when quite frankly, they're going.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
To need him.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Yeah, that's a huge stretch of no doubt that is
that's the biggest and it's ten days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
There's no doubt, that's right. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
So he uh, I don't I I I figured it
was going to be harsh, maybe two games. This is harsh,
but the actions warranted it. And plus if he'd just
if he'd gone over there to Lawrence after somebody hit
him and you know that and just walked off the field,
you know, you know that that feeling that look the optics,

(01:29:15):
the optics were bad even after the hit, almost as
if he didn't care. Now I know he cares, he
saw his post was that on Instagram? He cares, But
they's still not enough in the NFL's eyes. And there's
been some incidents leading up to this that that I
think helped make the decision a little easier. And I
love this guy as a football player. I don't know

(01:29:36):
him as a human, but as a football player. But
I would have reacted like like Jacksonville, and I also
know that I think the NFL, if you wanted a
louder message, I'm not sure where you're going to get it.
You got it. It's an expensive one and a loud one.
But you know what, he put a player in major
danger on Sunday. He did, and whether it was intentional

(01:29:56):
or not, he put it. He put it in major danger.
And then all the stuff after that escalated. Yeah, he was,
he was in the fray. This doesn't shock.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Me, says in the official statement from the NFL as
He's Aushire of the Houston Texans has been suspended without
pay for three games for repeated violations of rules intended
to protect the health and safety of players and promote sportsmanship,
including during Sunday's game against the Jacksonville Jaguars. So right there,
the very opening statement in this press release says repeated

(01:30:29):
violations of rules. So the league has taken notice. So
I think it's cumulative. I don't think this backing up exactly,
but this is the first.

Speaker 5 (01:30:37):
Time and he walked off the field after it felt
bad and showed it. They would have they would have.
I don't think it would have been three games. I
think there's a cumulative effect to this in the optics
from past games carried over to this one, and this
was the most blatant one and it cost him. And
what's his salary? Let me double check when you do that? Now,

(01:31:00):
just do you talk about an expensive hit? I mean
that's three games. You know, what's.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
He's making three year. He's signed a three year, thirty
four million dollar deal. So what's a little over eleven
a year.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
So let's just round it off the twelve million and
twelve million a year. Remember they're the I think he's
the the the they're taking the money out from his normal salary, right, yeah,
his game checks. Yeah, so you do that after you
pro rate, you know, you break it up into sixteen
I mean seventeen games, whatever that adds up to, and

(01:31:38):
then you take three of those game checks away. That's
got to be what seven hundred grand a week something
in that range. If it's twelve million a year, we'll
just round up to twelve million divided by seventeen, right, Yeah,
that's about seven hundred grand a game.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
Well that's that's two that's over two million. That's a
two million dollar suspension. Yeah, yeah, it's a grand If
it's twelve, it's right around two million bucks. Yeah, that
he's gonna lose, wow for three weeks, and and and
and the money matters, and the fact that you're losing
a really a hell of a football player on the field,

(01:32:16):
but a big party. But it's part because I do
believe it's cumulatives. We've seen there's been enough in past
games to say, Okay, these guys are being looked at.
And then the most heinous one was this past weekend. Yeah,
it was it's it was a tough watch to see.
But this doesn't shock me at all.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
This is gonna have bigger I mean, obviously it's gonna
have ramifications for his bank account for all the money
he's going to be losing. But it's gonna have some
big ramifications for that defense too, because you're going to
go into a stretch of three games in ten days
against the Miami Dolphins, the Kansas City Chiefs, and the
Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 5 (01:32:49):
Yeah, and you know what, you know what happens to
bodies in ten gate three games in ten days, you
get beat up.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
Yes, and so you need depth. You need depth.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
And then the next the next question is does this
affect his aggressiveness on the field where you get a
little more and it'd be human nature to tiptoe around
a little bit because you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
You just lost two million dollars. Yeah, mm hmmmm. So
I think they went, Hey, good thing they went and
got Devin White.

Speaker 5 (01:33:13):
Harsh, harsh, but probably needed if you're sending the safety message.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
Man, Jamal Hill's gonna have to play more, Devin White's
gonna have to play more. Nevill Hewitt's gonna have to
play more, and they're all gonna have to play well
and stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
I was saying, stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
This is nuts man seven one three two one two
five seven ninety Texans fans, you think three games is
too much? I already got a couple of tweets coming
in that they think. Some of the Texas fans think
three games is too.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
Of course much, And I don't blame him, just like
they and everybody else around the league say it's not
enough or it's perfect. I saw locally here they'll say
it's way too much. One guy said it should have
been for the rest of the season. And if I
saw somebody else say that yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
Wow, Texans linebackers hes Alshai ere suspended four to three
games with outpay. That coming straight from the league office.
Texans fans, is it too much?

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Let us know.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Seven one three two point two five seven ninety is
the number to join. We will talk about the fallout
UH and the ramifications of the Aushi, your suspension for
the Texans and their defense.

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Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Let the celebration start more.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Talk about the ramifications of that defense. Let's gets Adrian first. Adrian,
good morning.

Speaker 9 (01:36:24):
Hey, good morning, fellas.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
This one caught me off guard and it hurt.

Speaker 14 (01:36:29):
I called yesterday and was hoping they did and lowered
the boom. They lowered the boom, and I said, yesterday,
maybe a one in three with him gone three games. No,
not on this defense, because it puts more pressure on
slow it now to score more points.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
We all know.

Speaker 14 (01:36:50):
This offense ain't putting up many points. So uh, I'm
gonna take that one in three and make it zero
and four. I don't know what he was thinking. It
was the heat of the moment. It was a play, but.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Now it's gonna cost the whole team.

Speaker 14 (01:37:07):
And with Indy on a roll, we're gonna see because
pressure makes two things, fellas a diamond and a piece
of We're gonna see what this team's made of now.
So I'm already calling the book looking for the line
the week after this week.

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
For the rest of you, you already know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Thank you, Adrian seven seven.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
I need continue to take your reaction on the disease suspension, Austin,
what's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
What's going on this morning? Guys? Not much.

Speaker 15 (01:37:44):
The only thing that.

Speaker 26 (01:37:45):
I disagree with is I feel like, if you're gonna
punish somebody for something, you can't you gotta punish for.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Them for it right then and there.

Speaker 26 (01:37:54):
You can't backtrack and look at what's been done over
the past twelve games or whatever you want to call it,
and then now decide to punish him for it. When
I was a kid, if I did something stupid and
when it's gonna get my ass whipped, my dad didn't
let it accumulate and then whip my ass once it
finally boiled over.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
He did it right then and there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
So that's the only thing that I kind of disagree with.
If that makes sense, well.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Yeah, it makes sense. But Austin, let me let me
ask on this side of it. With the football or
with your dad or anything, weren't you if it was
a history of something that you continue to do, like
if you lied to your parents and you may have
got scolded the first time, sent to your room the
second time, and took the thumping on the ass the

(01:38:42):
third time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
I mean, in.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
Truth, if you look at it, and I'm with you,
I understand because this would again, this would have warranted
a suspension regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
What is he what has he been scolded for? Has
he been.

Speaker 7 (01:38:55):
Fed?

Speaker 9 (01:38:56):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
What has he been.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
Well, I'm going to tell you the scold is. We
see it on tape. We see the punch to the
face out of bounds. We see the hit to the
guy out of bounds that that we flagged and you got,
you know, a penalty or we didn't flag. But they
see this and when it happened, this has been happening
in the NFL long time. They want to know what
intent and what the history of the player is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
They do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
I'm just telling you, they do when it comes to us,
and whether we like it or not. Yeah, I get
what you're saying, Hey, deal with this one. The past
is the past. But the past give them, gives them
a glimpse into is this a trend for the player,
And that's what they're asking and that then that's why
this is so severe.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
It's not just this hit.

Speaker 26 (01:39:39):
Yeah, I just feel like because he I don't think
there was any repercussions for the punch, was there.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
I don't think so either. Not fine, fine, I think
fined by the NFL, but I don't even know if
there was. I don't even know if they there's probably
offsetting penalties and and you know how that goes and
nobody gets hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
So but the NFL thing after, Yeah, if he'd.

Speaker 26 (01:39:58):
Got a one game suspend for that, because obviously that's
not okay. And then now you want to hit him
with the three game suspension.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
I understand that.

Speaker 26 (01:40:07):
But you hit him with a twenty thousand dollars fine,
and then you say, hey, we're going to take all
of this stuff into consideration and hit you with the book.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Now, I just so, what do you think the suspension
should have been. I don't know, man, probably one one
or two games.

Speaker 26 (01:40:23):
I mean, I didn't see where he ever even made
contact to the head.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
To me, it looked like a.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Fairly late, clean hit.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
But it was vicious. I didn't see any contact to that. Well, well,
you thought that was a clean hit, not.

Speaker 7 (01:40:41):
Cleaning.

Speaker 26 (01:40:42):
I saw forearm to the chest and a fist to
the shoulder.

Speaker 10 (01:40:48):
It was late.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
I agree with you all one hundred percent, but I
didn't see a shot to the head.

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
Would you have seen it different if it was if
it was uh Stroud, if it was Stroud getting hit
by Josh Allen, it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Still would have been late. I still wouldn't have agreed
with it.

Speaker 26 (01:41:05):
I still would have expected, you know, a one to
two game suspension.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
You know, it is what it is.

Speaker 26 (01:41:12):
I just don't like the way that the whole thing
was unfolded.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
I don't agree with.

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
That part about the suspensions and how they take place
in the front offices of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
I do get what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:41:23):
Yeah, I expected it to be harsh, and I didn't
know if it'd be three games. But they're the cumulative effect.
And they admitted it by saying the history. So that's
how they gathered it and said, you know, this has happening,
and then we don't want this to happen anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
So they sent a loud message. Oh for sure, appreciate her.
That all good stuff, a good point of view. Let's
talk to Robert. Robert, what's happening?

Speaker 27 (01:41:48):
Yeah, excuse me, I just wanted to throw in a
little bit. You know, when he was heading towards.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
You know, the quarterback.

Speaker 27 (01:41:57):
The quarterback kind of made a late slide and he
was already kind of launching himself.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
Yeah, it was a late hit, but I don't think.

Speaker 27 (01:42:05):
It was gregorous as it was, you know, made out
to be maybe a one game suspension.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
I think they just kind of made him.

Speaker 27 (01:42:13):
Escape goat for the league, and I think it was
a little bit severe with three games.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Would you have felt that way if it was Stroud? Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 27 (01:42:26):
If I saw the exact same, you know, hit but
just switched the players, yeah I would have thought, yeah,
he should have been suspended, should have been a fifteen
yard penalty, But come on, he was already launching towards
the quarterback about the same time the quarterbacks started to slide,
And yeah, it was about a blink too late. But

(01:42:47):
you know, I mean, this is the NFL, for god's sakes.
You know, they're not wearing dresses.

Speaker 9 (01:42:51):
You know.

Speaker 27 (01:42:51):
The slide rule I think is kind of crazy thing
they're just doing just to protect the quarterbacks. I bet
the penalty would not have been as severe or if
it had been the backup quarterback and there instead of
Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
Appreciate your call, John. Excuse me, Robert, Sorry, I was
looking at another call. I think when you look at
all of the optics, you look at the fight that
happened afterwards, then you look at Shire taking his helmet
off and going after Shurf. I think they take that
into consideration and look at the end of the day,
whether we like this call or not. Meaning the suspension,

(01:43:27):
he hit the hell out of a quarterback. In the NFL,
you know that some sort of fine or penalty, excuse me,
fine or suspension is coming. That's the state of the NFL.
And you can't not suspend him. You can't not suspend him.
It had to happen, and it maybe and I understand
the argument of being too harsh for some. I do

(01:43:50):
think that we'd all look at it different locally is
if it was your quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I just do.

Speaker 5 (01:43:54):
And that's normal outside this building, outside this state. Everybody's yeah,
three should says you're going to get that and then
and you may get some former players say no, that's
too harsh defensive play.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
You know how that goes, You'll you'll get a ground.

Speaker 5 (01:44:05):
Swell for him and for the suspension on people sit
on that side. But here we'd all probably protect it
more and want harsh if it was our quarterback, you
would and we would expect that that they there, We're
going to go out and fight those guys and get
after it. And it's it's all perspective on who the
quarterback is, what side the field you're on. But you

(01:44:27):
knew a suspension was coming down. It's harsh, but they're
sending a message not only to Asha here that the
way the continued, the way you play is going to
have to tone it down when it comes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
To this stuff, but it's also to the league.

Speaker 5 (01:44:38):
Now, listen, if you're a guy who's been knocking people
around and has that physical that you got a reputation
around the league that you've hit a guy out of
bounds once and you hit a quarterback like this, you
better not be giving him a one game suspension.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
It better be just that this is now. This is
now the heart.

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
If you're hitting a guy when east side and hit
him late in the head and you've got a history
of maybe you got to fight and you got you
hit somebody out of bounds earlier but didn't get suspended
for it but got fined, then it's got to be
treated the same, right, But you won't get uniformity.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
No, that's just the way it works, and that's how
it is today.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
It's right in the NFL seven one, three, two, two five,
seven ninety A Z's aushy year suspended three games without
pay for the Houston Texans on his hit horse.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
Oh dude, he'd be suspended for the rest of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
I'm not sure they wouldn't have suspended, honestly. And it's
not a disrespect to Mahomes. It's like how the league like, ooh,
this is the guy yet Trevor Lawrence. I don't care
if it's a backup or not. See that Lawrence isn't
a backup by If that would have happened to mac Jones,
the suspension should have been the same, right, But I'm
not sure that's the way the league looks at yet.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
Know, if it was Mahomes, you'd be suspended for the
rest of the year, I would think. So continue to
take your calls, uh and your reactions.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Is it too many games? Texans fans? Let us know.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
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Speaker 16 (01:46:40):
Hey, good morning.

Speaker 28 (01:46:43):
I think we're two more hits like this away from
actually putting either flagged football flags on these quarterbacks or
red jerseys on them so that nobody ever touches them.
I think the rule, the slide rule, needs to go away.
You got people running full speed saying that it wasn't
a violent hit. I'm not saying I don't think he

(01:47:04):
was targeting. I don't think it was intentional. That's my opinion.
I'm entitled to.

Speaker 29 (01:47:08):
It, but I truly believe the slide rule needs to
go away to eliminate this all together. If quarterback didn't
want to get hit, stay behind the line my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Thank you, Scott, How do you think about that?

Speaker 7 (01:47:23):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
I think, for the like I said last segment, regardless
of whether or not that we like this suspension, he
hit a quarterback in the NFL, that is going to
always get the attention of the referees during the game,
the league office after the game, whether we like it

(01:47:44):
or not. I think more quarterbacks, or different quarterbacks are
protected more, some are protected less.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
I think they're two protected. That's fact.

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
You blow by him and you shoulder him a good
hit or a push after the throw right when he
throws it, you push him in the chest and he falls,
the acting goes in, you get penalized.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
It's it's overboard. We we we protect quarterbacks way too much.
We've softened that up to the point where damn, we're
losing quarterback integrity where they're literally close to playing with
the red jersey they are.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
That's that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
That's not hyper hyperbi. I don't know how many more
rules we can change to protect the quarterback anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
They have an emphasis of protecting quarterbacks.

Speaker 23 (01:48:20):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:20):
I'm trying to figure out how how you can take
the slide roll away once you've once you've already offered it. Yeah,
this is that you know, you can't offer the nine
care diamond ring for the quarterback and then turn around
and give them cubics or conia because they won't take.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
I'm not saying they have a vote.

Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
My point is you'd be sending the message of we
don't We're revert there. They be a little more lenient
in the pocket before they do that. I like what
he's thinking though, isn't the slide get to a point
where everybody involved is is tread and light. Don't you

(01:48:59):
don't know what to do? Yeah, the quarterback sometimes makes
an odd slide, looks like he's gonna blow out his
damn knee or ankle. Then sometimes when they slide, maybe
we got to teach him better how to slide where
their heads, not as they slide their heads above their
body where it's sitting right there like a like a
whack a mole. Like a whack a mole, it rears
its head and you hit it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
Right when Tua earlier this year, Right made that awkward
ass slide and got literally knocked out again.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Right. We talked about that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
And I'm not saying that that they should that we
should still hit them when they're down and hit him
in the head. I don't mean that, but I'm just wondering,
if you just had the player, I don't know, do
you got to start your slide earlier? I almost feel
like going head first, getting your head down, you're closer
to the ground, you got shoulder pads around you. It

(01:49:44):
almost feels like that. I know that they think that
feet first is safer, is it really don't. Most of
the vicious hits that I see because your momentum is
going forward when you're when you're diving, that you're bringing
some force with you as well.

Speaker 4 (01:49:56):
Vicious hits hit half feet first first, always because her
bodies still exposed.

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
Right right, your feet first, and your hands are by
your side, or you're holding the ball on the one,
you're holding the ball one, it's by your side, you're
bracing your phone. When you're diving, you're the diving with
the football frat, You're you're kind of lower to the
ground and you can actually you can actually get the
face mask your think.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
You're usually not diving with your head up.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
You're diving head down, and most guys dive and they
kind of tucking roll, So now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
Your back's exposed. At least that's your back, right.

Speaker 5 (01:50:24):
It almost feels to me there's more protection on the
head there is than there is on the on the
feet first, it feels like it you feel like you're
so exposed on the head for the feet.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
First first, your chest is exposed. And if those dudes
are coming one hundred miles.

Speaker 5 (01:50:36):
An hour, when you also have the feeling, oh I'm
feeling on feet first, nobody can mess with me. So
you're actually up looking and or you'll slide on your
ass where you're kind of in a sitting position. I
don't know how you get rid of it, but it's
almost conducive to how do you blame the defender. I'm
not talking about the ashare, I'm talking about all around.
How do you protect that guy? And it almost feels

(01:50:57):
like quarterbacks are getting hurt work on slides than they
are on Just go you just go, just just get
down or throw your shoulder pad into the guy like
we did when we were in high school and keep
playing football.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
You're out of the pocket.

Speaker 5 (01:51:12):
Don't we say when you're out of the pocket, it's
free free But why doesn't a running room But why
doesn't a running back get a free slide?

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
Why doesn't a wide receiver?

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Which is so bush league, which leads back.

Speaker 5 (01:51:24):
To what we couldn't do that to the running back
or the quiet receiver because they're in the field to play, well,
isn't the quarterback of the field to play? Yeah, there
is something to getting rid of the slide like that
or how you change it. But I got news for you.
The NFL officers to protect lawsuits and stuff. Wouldn't think
they're never going the other way. They're gonna do whatever
they can to protect it more. They just are. They

(01:51:45):
just are. Eventually, at some point they're going to say
all you can do is to hand touch the quarterback,
honest to God, when he leaves a pocket, two hand touch,
and with judgment called two hand touch, he's down. Which
if you're a quarterback like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson,
you're saying, hell, oh, I'll run right through that bastard. Yeah,
it's two hand touching me, right. I don't know, but

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they don't. They're never going to err on the side
of unprotecting the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
Yeah, they're not going there, Like you said, They're not
going the other way now, they are not. I talk
to John, John, what's happening?

Speaker 7 (01:52:15):
Yeah, man, you know, I said a long time ago.

Speaker 25 (01:52:17):
I never did like when they you know, when Brady
got hurt accidentally and they just started changing the rule
and putting these dresses on these quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 (01:52:26):
I never did like that at all. Sean. You know,
we kind of old school, and I know face can't.

Speaker 25 (01:52:32):
Change, but if you in there playing the game, you
should be able to get hit just like anybody else.

Speaker 7 (01:52:39):
That's just like the NBA.

Speaker 25 (01:52:42):
They changed all the rules where the offensive players get
more than that bandage. An offensive player with the ball
runs right into a defensive player and wow, let me
give him two free shots. Or he takes the three
point shot, and he jumps up in the air on
a three point shot, you better know I get too
close because we gotta let him come down on his feet.

(01:53:04):
You know, this is why I can't stand to watch
the NBA anymore. It's not it's not a dame. It's
an all star game. And I thought that, you know, First,
I don't think that Azza should have got suspended, but
if John Runyon had to suspend him, it should have
been just one game. First of all, Trevor Lawrence, Trevil

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Lawrence went down too late for one thing. When you
got a guy sliding far with going down and another
guy the.

Speaker 7 (01:53:31):
Opposite sliding toward him.

Speaker 25 (01:53:33):
When you watch Azzar as their arms, his elbow go
straight into his shoulder, and when two guys are sliding
down there, the arm is coming up and it's gonna
touch the helmet on top of it. Because of that,
that's what's gonna happens, almost unavaudable. If he wanted to

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really hurt Trevor Lawrence, he could have took his elbow
and went straight for the help.

Speaker 7 (01:53:58):
And he did not do that. Hit the shoulder first.

Speaker 25 (01:54:01):
And then on top of that, John running if you're
gonna suspend him, are you gonna suspend the guy that
jumped on as they are back and started to fight.

Speaker 7 (01:54:11):
Are you gonna do that? Or either that?

Speaker 25 (01:54:13):
Or when two guys is fighting, well, I'm gonna suspend
the one that started to fight. That's not fair at all.
And to bring up his history showing videos of him
getting into it with a guy a little bit on
the sideline. All that man, we see that kind of
crapping every football game, John Running, wyn't you run the

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video on all the other games and suspend the other
guys when they throw a punch and this and that.
You're not doing that. I think that's very unfair. You
cannot bring up a guy's past history to suspend him
because you should have suspended him at that time when
that stuff happened. You suspend him. You focus on suspending

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him or punishing him or giving him a fine for
this particular innocent and so then don't talk about, well,
you know, because of his past history. What is that
man that's like a dude that go to prison and
come out and he spend his time and he paid
his time for his crime. And now you're gonna suspend
him because he walked in the store. You're gonna suspend

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him because they passed. I don't like it all. I
ain't never liked John Running anyway, because I always found
him and his little group is a little extreme when
they come to suspensions. They kind of forgot they used
to play football. But that's how people do sometimes. Hey,
y'all have a good one. Thank you for letting me
a vent.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
Man, No problem, John, appreciate you. It's kind of funny.

Speaker 9 (01:55:39):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
You know, John Running is the one that's announced the
league's suspension to excuse me, announcement from the league, the
suspension of as he's outshi here And there's an account
on here that's on Twitter that found some really dirty
hits from John Running.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
Back in his playing career was talking.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Was known as a grinder on I told you know
those offensive linemen, I told you that are gonna go.
You stand around a pile, They're gonna hit you in
the ear hold.

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
Yeah, there's one that I just saw of him literally
knocking a dude out that's not even close to the play.
He literally, quite quite literally launches his body. Well, this
is just blatantly dirty. Maybe he knows, he knows from
all his time. This dude says, your lack what does
he say? Let me let me let me get the
correct one. Your lack of sportsmanship and respect for the

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game of football and all those who play, coach and
enjoy watching. It is troubling and does not reflect the
gore fi's in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
Oh Man, but don't forget where you came from Big John.
Maybe a guy who knows what the who knows how
to disrespect or lack of respect. There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
Oh man, I wouldn't want that big bastard coming at
me like that. Oh my goodness, no, thanks seven five
seven nine. He will keep on taking your calls about
this suspension. Do you think it's justified that Aziz al
Shire has suspended for three games without pay?

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
That's next on four Stock seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
This John Salsbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Continue Josh, appreciate you holding.

Speaker 16 (01:57:12):
Good morning, Hey guys, thanks for taking the call. I
just had a quick question. I wanted to ask both
of you and get feedback and listen. So, how would
y'all feel if they suspended any player the link it
takes to get out of concussion protocol? If Trevor Lawrence
mints the three games, he misses three games, et cetera.

(01:57:32):
You know, so I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
Thank you, Josh.

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
That's interesting, very interesting. I saw that actually two days
ago after the hit. Interesting guy comes back in a
week looked more severe, wasn't He comes back? And then
as the player, you're sitting around waight, like, what do
I do if it lasts five weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
Well, you're the lst five weeks if.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
You're willing to Yeah, I mean I think that that's
that there's there's something to that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
There's that. I don't think that's a bad idea. I
don't think that's a bad idea. Now.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
The only problem is if you take that risk at
all of sudden it's a month and you're like, oh yeah,
four weeks. Yeah, then when you miss a playoff game
before you know it. I don't know, but that's there's
I like, when we're throwing stuff against the wall that
actually could stick on like a golden ticket in baseball. Yeah, okay,
which is ridiculous. So who is that, Josh, Josh. Yeah,
that's a good point, Josh. I. I kind of like

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that judge the the uh the the hit which on
the severity of the injury, right, interesting, Yeah, not a
bad idea.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
Seven seven ninety. What's happening, Garrett?

Speaker 21 (01:58:39):
Hey, good morning guys. Sew and uh, you know, Brian,
it's a pleasure to talk to you all. I want
to re emphasize John's point, uh, the the length of
the suspension. I think you don't know if Lawrence is
going to be out the rest of the season. Ultimately,
that hit I think started because the defense laws contained

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it put Lawrence in a situation where the logical situation
was he was gonna slide and Shair could have just
essentially on the start of the slide instead of of
hitting him, he could have just touched the guy and
he would have been down. But you know, I think
it was a gratuitous hit ultimately, and uh and and

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so his previous history. We all remember the punch on
the sideline, we all. And so that you know they're
they're trying to clean up that game essentially to where
you know, if you're gonna act a fool, you know
that they're gonna show you that you got to be
a professional. And uh, we all want to shake hands
after the game, and everyone has a good taste in

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their mouth, but you know that, you know, people are
gonna remember this game for a while. And so they
had to send a message. And uh and like I said,
if Lawrence is out for several weeks with concussion protocol,
it's an adequate suspension. And uh you know so, uh
so that's my general take. Uh In just like you

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said earlier, if it would have happened to uh Stroud.
I think we would have all wanted some blood.

Speaker 5 (02:00:15):
We could say what we want about that, Garrett, Garrett
great stuff, appreciated.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Good to hear from me.

Speaker 5 (02:00:20):
We could say what we want, and I love our callers,
and I think the emotion of it. We can say
it because it didn't happen. There's no way on God's
green earth that we'd have one person saying, oh, that
wasn't a late hit and he shouldn't be. Everybody if
it happened on Stroud would be beside themselves.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
We could say what we want.

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
They would go be through the roof and they we
we'd be yelling to the high heavens about three games.
Three games is lucky, it wasn't more. Should be more,
of course, Yeah, and understandably so they're doing it in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
Get it.

Speaker 5 (02:00:51):
But if we say that all we wouldn't want the
suspension if it was reversed, that's that. That's I think
that's a bit hyperbolics. I think, of course we would
in a big way. Yeah, we will want more than three,
no doubt about it. For your franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
No doubt about it. People will people be up in arms,
going nuts.

Speaker 4 (02:01:06):
Right right, Trevor Lawrence. At the end of the day,
is their franchise quarterback, the Jags, and they want more
than three games. If that happened to c J. Stroud,
we would be beside ourselves. We would be rioting.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
And you know what, the loss of c J. Stroud
keep out of the playoff.

Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
It would one hundred no disrespect to Davis Mills, but
he's not leaving the team.

Speaker 5 (02:01:23):
With you out of the playoffs. And so they would be, oh,
it would be they'd be walking. We'd all be walking
the streets piss.

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
Yes, pick a sign, no doubt, no doubt about that.
Let's talk. Uh, let's talk to Reggie. Reggie, good morning.

Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
Hey, how y'all doing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
Man?

Speaker 30 (02:01:39):
I was watching the saying the Chargers, uh about three
weeks ago, and you guys probably remember this with a
defensive lineman wrapped up.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
Her did the alligator alligator thing.

Speaker 4 (02:01:52):
Yeah, offensive lineman destroyed the defensive player for doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 30 (02:01:56):
And the thing about it is, I didn't see any
flag for that, Like it's okay to come to your
quarterbacks defense get in his face or something. But he
shoved the man face all on the ground. He could
have got hurt while he was down there on the ground,
and I said, he should have got a flag for
that too, because that's a little assessive. Also understand he
was pissed, but like you still can't the ref just
standing there watching him do that. And when I didn't

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see them giving him a flag, I was like, Okay,
you know what, Now everybody gonna think they can do this,
And that's exactly what every Ingram did. He should have
got the NFL got to do something about that too. Man,
these retaliation because if you start letting these dudes police themselves,
we're gonna see what happened again, Like, uh, Sunday, they
should have been a flag on Ingram, and they should

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have been a flag on that offensive lineman for that's
because that's a little extra for me to And if
you don't, it's gonna turn into a brawl, because I
sure ain't. Whatever his name, he's not gonna let you
just get away with that. He gonna get up and
defend hisself. But if you'd just grabbed him orself and
by his shoulder. Fans got in his face and say, hey, man,
like don't do you know, but he's shoving him, pushing

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his head in the ground. And that's what's gonna happen
if the NFL don't start letting these with referees those
flags on the retaliation.

Speaker 7 (02:03:09):
That's that's what you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Now, Reggie.

Speaker 5 (02:03:12):
You don't want you don't want flag. You don't want
a suspension for the retaliation. You just want a flag. Correct, Yeah,
makes sense.

Speaker 30 (02:03:19):
Like, Okay, don't do that, man, and then you know
everybody else will.

Speaker 5 (02:03:23):
And most of the time I saw it over the
weekend in college and throughout the week in college, and
this past week I think it was in the NFL
or college. Then most of the time what ends up happening.
You get off setting penalties. There's like a five guys involved,
and they'll say this penalty, this penalty offset, and then
the guy who obviously committed the penalty gets hit worse.
But yeah, I mean, I understand why I would retaliate

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too if I was a player, Yes, protecting my guy,
I would. But you also have to know that while retaliating,
you're putting yourself or your team into a pot. How
many times we see the first guy punch a guy
in a helmet, guy turns around and fights back. They
both off setting penalties when you could have got a
free fifteen yards if you wouldn't fall back. It's human
nature to say, no, no, no, I'm defending my player. Dude,
we're fighting back. But I get what Reggie saying. That

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a flag which probably ends up getting caught in the
wash anyway because of the offsetting stuff. Yeah, but you
could you may need the fifteen yards if you don't retaliate.
But human nature, if you got any guts at all,
is you just cheap shot of my quarterback. You damn right,
I'm gonna punch you in the back.

Speaker 25 (02:04:23):
Four.

Speaker 5 (02:04:23):
That's exactly right. Yes, that's the human nature part of it.
But human nature still doesn't prevent you from having penalties.
And I get why Reggie would say, and others would say, well,
because if that turns in, then the next guy fights
and before you know, we're in and all out.

Speaker 4 (02:04:36):
But yeah, exactly as it would be, no question, protect
your guys, man, no doubt, that's what happens. YEP seven
three two two five seven ninety. We will continue to
take your cause as we get into the nine o'clock hour,
talking about the Al shai Yere suspension for the Texans
and also the ramifications.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
What the defense is going to have to do.

Speaker 4 (02:04:53):
Even though they're in the bye week, they got a
tough stretch of three games and ten days against some
pretty damn good teams.

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Speaker 4 (02:05:38):
Eight o'clock is when the launch bat starts right here
on seven out of your home for Rockets basketball Texans
in their bye week. Their linebacker Ziz al Shire suspended
three games by the NFL that came down this morning
at eight o'clock for his hit on Trevor Lawrence. Christian
McCaffrey headed to the IR been taking your calls since
eight o'clock talking about that suspension. Seven one three, two

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one two five, seven ninety is the number to join.
Let's start with Dave. Dave, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Oh, not much? Good morning.

Speaker 7 (02:06:09):
Hey.

Speaker 31 (02:06:10):
I agree wholeheartedly with the suspension. You know, led with
the brace and uh contact of the head. I think
not enough self awareness after the fact. I think is
uh the way he reacted after uh probably just added
to the suspension.

Speaker 17 (02:06:29):
But I'm just calling.

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
I have a question.

Speaker 31 (02:06:30):
Do you think the players Association is going to weigh
in on this thing?

Speaker 1 (02:06:34):
So he will appeal it? He already.

Speaker 4 (02:06:36):
I was just gonna say, uh, he did appeal already
this morning.

Speaker 5 (02:06:42):
So if he's lucky, it's possible two games. If if
they decide it was it was harsh enough, then he won't.
He's not going to get it down to one game.
It'll be two or three games if he does. If
they hear, you know, the appeal goes through and they
you know, it works, then it may be two games.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
But it's not.

Speaker 5 (02:07:00):
I don't think, honestly, how in the hell it's going
to be less than that because it sends the wrong
message injury wise. So uh, maybe two, but the appeals
on of course he is. That's a lot of money
to the quarterback, right always.

Speaker 3 (02:07:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's all I hit that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
Stuff, Dave. Thank you. Stalk to Kevin, Kevin, what's going on?

Speaker 20 (02:07:21):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
Man?

Speaker 20 (02:07:23):
First time?

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
Long time?

Speaker 20 (02:07:24):
I'm just really.

Speaker 5 (02:07:26):
Uh uh.

Speaker 20 (02:07:27):
Listening to this and listening to me person, I think
Trevor Laws had on him. Did oh, I gotta get
out now he just hit me moments. But the way
you protect the quarterback once he leaves the pocket, he's
a running back. He's supposed to get hit.

Speaker 4 (02:07:43):
Right, Yes, once you leave the pocket, your free reign.

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
Yeah, tell you slide and tell you slide.

Speaker 20 (02:07:49):
Don't if a running back slide, he gets hit, they
don't throw that flag.

Speaker 1 (02:07:54):
It's a quarterback rule.

Speaker 20 (02:07:56):
Man's a quarterback, That's what's the quarterback. He's he's no
a quarter but we need that pop. His protection is gone.

Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
But just like everybody else, I agree with you in
the in the way you're seeing it. As a former quarterback,
I think the rule sucks. But I will tell you
that it's a quarterback rule. He still is the quarterback.
When he decides to slide, it's as if he's in.
It's it's almost like he's went back to the pocket.
We're going to overprotect it.

Speaker 20 (02:08:23):
So and I heard you say what makes him better
than the next mail?

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
We'll say it again.

Speaker 20 (02:08:30):
Oh yeah, he put his hands on one million.

Speaker 5 (02:08:34):
Yeah, I would treat the backup quarterback the same way
the right guard. I mean, injuries are injuries, Yes, I agree.

Speaker 20 (02:08:42):
But I think long he was trying to get that
first down and realize he wasn't gonna make it, make it,
and then he was I mean, you look at this
when they stopped it, you can't see he was already
in lunch mos. When when tramp has started going down.
You can't put a pause on your on your tackle.
They're just not possible. And all these people. It was

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a it was a hit. It was a real old
school getting what I call it.

Speaker 5 (02:09:09):
Yeah, appreciate it, Kevin appreciate it. Kevin and I get
the the intensity of it. But I don't think we'd
be saying it if it was our g from No,
we wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
We wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (02:09:19):
But from like to Kevin's point, like we discussed, when
he leaves the pocket, the quarterback, he is a free runner,
free player. He can be hit, but in the league's eyes,
per the rules, he's the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
You can't do that.

Speaker 5 (02:09:34):
When he goes into a slide, he's not a running
he's not a running He's not open game anymore, not anymore.

Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
That's what they're doing with the league and the emphasis
I'm protecting the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
That's right. I don't like it. I think it sucks.

Speaker 5 (02:09:43):
Yeah, I listen, it was was a It was a
hit that needed to be suspended and fined. You get
to decide if you want three games. I mean, how
you feel about three games or not and all that,
but it did and yes, while while I'm with you,
let him play and do it, you leave the pocket,
you take on that accountability. But that would have been

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an illegal hit against the running back. To forget the
slide I'm talking about. If the running back was going
down like slipped and was falling down and a guy
would have led like he led and hit him, he
would have been they was given so he would have
been given a PA, just like a receiver who is
gets hitless. They would have called it and they would
have been a flag. Now I don't know how big

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the suspension would have been, but there still would have
been a flag.

Speaker 8 (02:10:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
So, but it's a quarterback rule.

Speaker 5 (02:10:30):
And listen, As a former quarterback, I despise most of
the rules that protect the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
It's overboard. That's old school, man.

Speaker 5 (02:10:36):
It's just I mean, you don't want to cheap shot him,
and you don't want to get rid of him. Obviously,
your team's better when you get to play the backup
a lot of times. But you hope you don't go
and hit them. Hit him clean, hit him hard, hit
him vicious, but hit him fair. And that was a
hit that and I understand the timing of the slide
and all that. The bottom line is they're asking you
to be inhuman. They are as a defensive player that

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even if you're suspended in mid air, their idea, their
answer to that would.

Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
Be, then don't suspend yourself.

Speaker 5 (02:11:02):
Yeah, don't, don't, don't jump, then come and break down
and tackle like you were when you're in the seventh grade.
They'll always have an answer for it. When it comes
to the protection of the quarterback, whether we like it
or not.

Speaker 4 (02:11:11):
That's the emphasis, man, whether we like it or not. Ronnie,
good morning, Good.

Speaker 17 (02:11:16):
Morning, guys. I got to do three quick things. If
a quarterback see day Stroud or anybody had delivered some
kind of a hit, which quarterbacks don't do. But if
they had delivered some kind of a hit that would
have put out a defensive player like that, would they
be suspended for three games?

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Jimme the hit, what kind of hit.

Speaker 17 (02:11:39):
Well, just a hit that causes a concussion. Let's say
if a quarterback somehow delivers a hit that causes a
guy to be concussied.

Speaker 5 (02:11:46):
You mean, like he's running and all of a sudden,
a guy breaks down a tackle and Trevor Lawrence launches
his head helmet into the other guy's helmet to get
a first down.

Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
Yeah, quarterback suspended. Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (02:12:00):
They probably would have remember when they first brought out
the penalty, Ronnie, where even a running back when he
comes through the hole, if he lowers his head on
the middle linebacker and goes helmet crown first, that we're
supposed to we're supposed to flag that as well, which
is absurd.

Speaker 25 (02:12:16):
I believe.

Speaker 5 (02:12:17):
I believe that if it was that blatant, the guy
broke down because he's a you know, and that's feasible.

Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
Think about it.

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
You're heading towards the sideline, guy breaks down and gets
on his heels as a player because you're afraid that
I don't want to hit him, he's gonna go out
of bounds. I'll just sit here and kind kind of
lead him out of bounds. And all of a sudden,
a guy in Lawrence is six or five about two
thirty and decides to leap through his shoes because he's
a yard and a half short, and that guy's kind
of broke down into a crouch, just making sure Lawrence

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doesn't cut back inside, but not in an explosive position,
and you launch yourself into that guy's helmet. Oh, I
don't think there's any doubt that they would. They would
look at it and say, well, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa,
and go. And now we may never see that, but
if we do, they should. That's you won't get a suspension,
but it would get a penalty. It's at least it's
supposed to.

Speaker 17 (02:13:05):
Well it should. But yeah, I mean you go back
to the way, back to the old days, and Earl
would have been suspended god knows how many times.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
Oh, there's no doubt.

Speaker 5 (02:13:13):
Yes, absolutely, those guys who ran physical right.

Speaker 17 (02:13:17):
And the thing, there's none of the two things. I
don't three games in eleven days. I don't care if
it's Texans or anybody. Football should be played once a week.
I'm tired of all these Thursday games. Maybe a Thanksgiving
Day game, but to me, if you're going to play
on Thursday, the way the schedule can be written. They

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should get the week before that Sunday. They shouldn't have
to play that Sunday before. You should play once a week,
three games. They talk about safety and protection of the players.
Playing three games in eleven days is absurd, it's stupid.
It shouldn't happen.

Speaker 5 (02:13:54):
No argument here. That's my favorite though, Ronnie hey Man.
We care about the player safety all the while asking
a guy like Derek Henry who runs physical, carries it
to go out there, and you're a sakuon Barkley, I
need you to play three games in ten days. It's
hard enough for those guys to play one game. Or
an offensive lineman or a linebacker's sacrificing their body, throwing

(02:14:14):
it in their thirty forty to fifty times, just getting
hammered every single time. But we care about your safety.
That's the most hypocritical thing on the planet. No, we
care about and you're playing ten games, three games in
ten gay days, and you're going to deal with it,
and we don't care. But we care about your safety.
They're full of crap.

Speaker 17 (02:14:32):
Raise we're going to raise ticket prices.

Speaker 5 (02:14:33):
Too, absolutely the regular basis. Yeah, whenever they say we
care about safety first. They care about safety first in
selective moments, not when it comes to box office cash.

Speaker 1 (02:14:44):
Okay, now and I both know it. It's a bar
right there.

Speaker 17 (02:14:47):
And quick, one quick thing. I don't know if it
was you guys. Yesterday I was slipping around all over
the place trying to get people's takes on this. The
length of Stroud's suspension should be coincide with the length
of time that Lawrence is out with the injury.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
You mean with Alshi, not Stroud.

Speaker 5 (02:15:09):
Yeah, that's caller suggested he's out three weeks, you're suspended
three weeks, he's out two weeks. You're suspended three weeks
or two weeks. Yeah, And I think that makes sense.
But the NFL's they they haven't got on that train yet.

Speaker 17 (02:15:22):
Yeah, Roger Goodell and logic, those two terms don't coincide.

Speaker 5 (02:15:28):
And the truth is, I don't think Roger, thank you righting.
Roger didn't have one saying this. I don't think. No,
I don't even think he Probably he probably looked at
it and said we've got to do something. But it's high.
Roger Goodell made the smartest movie you should have made
when he first got commissioner. Remember the biggest problem was
trying to be he trying to be the judge, the
jury and the execution and saying, finally, take your remove
yourself from that, because most people got pissed when he's

(02:15:49):
judging you know, guys for their their conduct and all that.
Put that in a committee, left them decide you'd be
the commissioner, raise a lot of money, shake hands, kiss babies,
and do the thing the commissioner is supposed to do.
State of the year union address for the commissioner state
of football. Let somebody else like Runyon or you know,
guys like that. They put a committee together and let them, yeah,
be the be the villains to the fans. That's not

(02:16:11):
the commissioner's job. And so I'll bet you he didn't
have there's no letter, there's no Roger. The final email
probably went to Roger Goodell to say for approval, roval, right,
but not to make the decision.

Speaker 1 (02:16:23):
Yeah, it was Paul Bunyan. He was the one who
did it.

Speaker 5 (02:16:26):
You like, Paul Bunyan, not Paul Runyon, Paul John John
Runyon John Paul Bunyan. Yeah, do you ever know he
was you know, he was voted dirty. One of the
dirtiest players in the league back in his days. I
know it doesn't happen him a long time, right, but
he was a feisty crazy Yeah, feisty SLB. I'll tell
you another thing. We should actually get him on to

(02:16:47):
talk about this stuff. Is he in your era played
just after my back when I was on TV covered
him a lot, John, Uh, Yeah, we get him on.

Speaker 1 (02:16:56):
To talk about this stuff. Is you have you ever
had a onion? No? You never have a bunion.

Speaker 4 (02:17:03):
My sister did. Actually, my sister is listening to this.
Happy birthday to my sister's birthday. Happy birthday, Tricia. I
love you, Uh you're you're a uh fantastic mother, uh
fantastic wife, and I'm so proud of everything that you
have done.

Speaker 1 (02:17:18):
But yeah, she did have a bunion. Have you ever
had one? She got surgically removed. Mm hmm. Come on
your foot right and your big toe by a little bunion?
I have it either.

Speaker 4 (02:17:33):
Thank god that that part of the today, that that
party I have actually half that's brutal.

Speaker 5 (02:17:37):
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I'll tell you what else is. What is uh is
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Speaker 1 (02:17:45):
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Speaker 9 (02:17:48):
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you ever seen an onion? You think Rex Ryan likes
a bunion on a good foot, He probably lances it
with his teeth. That's disgusting. Dudes with foot fetishes are
So what about you ever have a boil? Okay, it's
just that word.

Speaker 5 (02:18:07):
We tell your lady to come up the back. No,
all that stuff explodes. Are we past breakfast yet?

Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
Breakfast? Are we past yet? Where is that? You're talking
about runions, bunions.

Speaker 5 (02:18:21):
At lancing and lancing boils.

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
That's gotta be gross.

Speaker 4 (02:18:27):
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discussing Lebron James at his age and Michael Jordan at
his age at their their same agent.

Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
They've got to have more. They've got the don't they.

Speaker 5 (02:18:39):
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Speaker 4 (02:18:43):
Than compairing Lebron James at the age of thirty eight
and Michael Jordan at thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
So there you go. What a topic?

Speaker 4 (02:18:50):
Are lebron struggles a bad stretch or a bad sign?
You know what, You're not getting any ratings from us anymore.
Just I mean the conversation that's tired. Both of them
are specially stupid. Great players, Hey, great players.

Speaker 1 (02:19:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:19:04):
I saw a thing with Larry Bird called him black
Jesus Lebron, No, Jordan Georgia. He was like, no, that
that's that's that's Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ reincardinated.

Speaker 5 (02:19:16):
At times, it felt like, well, what what Jameis was
praying for is exactly who Lebron. He was praying to,
this guy be praying to Jordan Doo. He had a
little bit of that in his game. That's the damn sure.

Speaker 1 (02:19:28):
Seven five seven.

Speaker 4 (02:19:30):
I will continue the discussion about the Aziz aushi ere
uh suspension. How you feeling Texans fans? You're nervous about
these upcoming three games in ten days?

Speaker 1 (02:19:38):
That's next.

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Speaker 32 (02:21:15):
Hey, this is Charles Barker. You guys talk. I put
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Sean Solisborough horrible. Now back to the Sean Solasborough Show.
What a knucklehead?

Speaker 1 (02:21:30):
Uhs, you'll need that for the White Boys songs? So
are we gonna have you know what, like Christmas Eve?
Do we work? Excuse me? You look on the twenty fourth?
We do we need to hear Christmas Eve? Yeah? That's
a Tuesday. Yeah, it's a Tuesday. Huh are you thinking that?
Maybe it's uh drinking?

Speaker 5 (02:21:55):
Maybe coffee and uh Bailey A lot of Bailey's like
some victuals. Yeah, and some Christmas A lot of your
favorite get you like old school? Or is it hardcore?
Four hours of sports? Which one is it? I'll bring
the Bailey's excuse, That's what I thought. Yeah, so let
me get our let me get our schedules straight.

Speaker 9 (02:22:16):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (02:22:18):
Christmas falls? Christmas falls on a Wednesday this year it does?
And when do we work? We work?

Speaker 4 (02:22:24):
Uh, every day except for Christmas? You're lying, no, what not?
We're here every day that week except for Wednesday. Really
uh huh?

Speaker 1 (02:22:35):
Also New Year's Eve so we can watch the ball
drop together. Is that everybody? No, this is not everybody?
Who is it? Just us in the show A teams off?
You're a kid. You're joking me right now?

Speaker 9 (02:22:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:22:50):
No, that's our lineup.

Speaker 5 (02:22:51):
Okay, so Wednesday, Christmas fall on a Wednesday is a
major monkey wrench.

Speaker 1 (02:22:57):
It is. Man, I don't like it. So we got
to come back.

Speaker 5 (02:22:59):
You gotta be fired up Christmas even you're like, oh man,
and then Thursday you come back on Christmas after the
day after you're like, you're like hunged over and all that.

Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
You gotta come run over.

Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
But hunged over, hunged over, Oh yeah, that's you got
hungay Christmas, man.

Speaker 1 (02:23:15):
We'll be here though, dog. We grind around here. We
don't take days off a bunch of vacations. You sure
do you do? Yeah, yeah, you do.

Speaker 4 (02:23:22):
I've already exhausted all mine. So you know, if you
want to take some days off, you go out of.

Speaker 1 (02:23:25):
It, come out four months. I mean, you never take
days off.

Speaker 4 (02:23:29):
Hey, Brian Triple by the way, we're going to the
West coast.

Speaker 1 (02:23:32):
Oh he takes a vacation. No, we're gonna work. Yeah,
why off? I know? No days didn't be checks say
no days off? I think so, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:23:43):
Yeah, Billy, he's take all of them like there in April,
super Bowl started, bakesball season.

Speaker 3 (02:23:52):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (02:23:53):
Man, you got him? Yeah, if you got him? Hey smoking?
Hey smoking? If you got him there, that's what I
was looking. Smoke him. If you got him, you think
never mind, Yeah, smoke him, if you got him. Brandon,
what's happening? Brand Oh Brandon? Oh right, see you later, dude. Gosh,

(02:24:16):
dang it. You know we just did ha. Yeah, we
wrung him up and you threw him out. He heave
holded you get in the heave hole? Does he call back? Well,
once you've been ejected from a game, you can't come back.
Tell see tomorrow. You can't get back. Once we've given
you the heave ho, Yeah, you're done.

Speaker 5 (02:24:31):
I mean it's like huh ha, yeah, well that's a
bad hey just running.

Speaker 4 (02:24:37):
Have you ever realized how little Chase Daniels is, Yes,
I have. He played in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, dude, he's.

Speaker 1 (02:24:45):
Got the shortest, stumpiest arm.

Speaker 5 (02:24:48):
Can't you can't hide. Listen, you either got it or
you don't size when it comes to football at quarterback,
you know, good decision maker, smart guy.

Speaker 1 (02:24:57):
Great college career. Yeah, played in Missouri, yep, miss There
you go.

Speaker 5 (02:25:05):
You're a clap guy or of one finger down guy,
or you're aye, give me the clap now.

Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
I still raise your leg. I don't even pay attention.

Speaker 5 (02:25:12):
Rarely just to say a guy in motion. Sometimes I
just point to point the guy in motion. Let's go,
dudeh are we trying to fall? He got Trevor Lawrence
got rocked. Yea, he got unloaded on. That was a
forearm shiver right to the face mask. We're rewatching it
right now. Anyway, she ran him, I did, So.

Speaker 1 (02:25:36):
You're gonna break your own ring. Yeah, you reject the guy?
Let him back yet.

Speaker 4 (02:25:41):
Plus we gotta get to Reggie and James. They've been
on hold as well, they're gonna go first and then
brand and he's back in the back of the line.

Speaker 1 (02:25:46):
Dog. You concerned about the defense for the Texans, I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:25:51):
Concerned about the depth in some big place. I'm I'm
I'm more confident in the defense than I am the offense.

Speaker 1 (02:25:56):
Are they going to beat the bye You think beat
the bye week? But I got him seven and a
half man seven and a half.

Speaker 4 (02:26:02):
Usc couldn't squeak by the bye Yeah, well we didn't
squeak by much. Miller Moss is transferring to Yeah, he
is hit the portal. Lincoln Riley gonna survive this.

Speaker 5 (02:26:11):
It's the hell of a question if he hasn't been
fired by in the next ten days. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
And he's a he's a good play caller. They just
gotta get They got to get better in a lot
of ways.

Speaker 4 (02:26:24):
Man man Cliff Kingsbury gonna is gonna look good as
the next Dallas Cowboys head coach and Lincoln Riley as
their offensive coordinator.

Speaker 5 (02:26:30):
Ooh, buddy, I think Lincoln thinks he's still a head coach.

Speaker 1 (02:26:35):
Okay, that's what I think. Could you imagine if that
was the duo in Dallas? They score a lot of points.
They would, wouldn't they?

Speaker 4 (02:26:41):
Yes, Oh my goodness seven one, three, two, two, five,
seven ninety Reggie James Braindon we'll get you guys next,
continuing to talk about these Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 (02:26:48):
And the suspension.

Speaker 4 (02:26:50):
Huh nexa Sports seven ninety, But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 1 (02:26:59):
Stalk Reggie, Reggie, what's happening?

Speaker 7 (02:27:02):
Hey, Sean and Brian.

Speaker 19 (02:27:03):
How you're doing today?

Speaker 1 (02:27:04):
Man, I'm cool.

Speaker 19 (02:27:07):
I'm on the same level with what Kevin was saying that.

Speaker 7 (02:27:10):
Sean.

Speaker 19 (02:27:10):
I have a question for you in regard to that.
So you're saying, like, if uh, with the size that
Trevor Lawrence is lifted at six fot six right, agreed
with that.

Speaker 5 (02:27:22):
Yeah, he's listed at six six about. He's five about
two and a quarter.

Speaker 19 (02:27:26):
Okay, So if that would have been like Bryce Young
or Baker Mafer slide, and it would have been because
when I look at it over and over again, he
was still up high because of his frame and how
tall he is. And I think that it's like when
you said when the running back lord is his head
and you guys were talking about being suspended or however

(02:27:49):
long the person is off. So what if he person
that size the quarterback runs out the whole Like Josh
Allen is a huge guy and he gives a guy
concussion and he's actually out for the whole year. Would
that same rule apply if you were gonna associate that
with how long the person is, all being that he's
a starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:28:10):
You're just talking about the physical stature of him. Correct.

Speaker 5 (02:28:14):
Yes, Yeah, I that's that's exactly why you can't do
that rule. You know what I mean, Reggie, because you
know my size guy, Josh Allen, sized guy. Big guys
that can that can, they can handle it and deliver it,
are going to give you a little bit more resistance
than one hundred and seventy pound quarterback one hundred and

(02:28:34):
eighty pound quarterback. Yes, So that's why you couldn't make
the room uniform the rule uniformity. Then if it was like, well,
I'm gonna hold Josh Allen do a different stand because
he's a big physical dude or myself as opposed to
you know, Baker Mayfield or Bryce Young or somebody who
sits a little shorter and.

Speaker 1 (02:28:51):
Carries a little less weight.

Speaker 5 (02:28:52):
So that's why they can't, among other things, and they're
going to treat the quarterback, even if the the they're
gonna two million bucks. And then the thing about it
is if Lawrence was out longer, Let's say Lawrence miss
the rest of the season, and if they had that
rule in al Shaher'd be like, damn, I'm ready to play.
It's cost me enough so that and that's hard to

(02:29:14):
because some guys also, you know, Reggie, with this deal
different with protocol, right, what you and I may be
the protocol. Maybe in a week we may pass protocol
and the size your body has nothing to do with it,
where another guy may not pass protocol for a month.
So you're gonna punish the player by the guy he hit,
meaning the defensive player. That's why that rule will never stand.

(02:29:35):
It'll just be this a bunch of committee guys making
it a decision.

Speaker 19 (02:29:41):
Yeah, jere And I think one of your USC along
should be like Ryanie Lott or someone should be over there,
because Ryanie Lott did some punishing hits. But a guy
like that who understands the position and understands a lot
of what the players are going through, should be someone
that the NFL should have in that type of position.

(02:30:03):
To me, especially being a defensive player is violin of
the players he played and gave up a frager just
and also playing the game. So I think people like
Ronnie allowed to have more understanding of what the player
on that side of the ball is.

Speaker 5 (02:30:17):
Thinking correct and what a brilliant and what a great
dude he is. Ronnie would air on the side of safety,
but also on the side of good, physical, clean vicious play.

Speaker 1 (02:30:28):
That's clean.

Speaker 5 (02:30:29):
That's how he played, and he was phenomenal at it, man,
and he's and he's a bright guy and one of
my favorite people and so nice off the field. Do
you think, how's that guy a trained killer on it?
But he was one of the fiercest competitors and players
I ever saw in.

Speaker 4 (02:30:43):
My Life's Doctor James James, good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 18 (02:30:50):
Yeah, I'm thinking that at this point John Running needs
to go by the men's low T clinic and get
that checked out.

Speaker 25 (02:30:57):
And uh, you might as well.

Speaker 21 (02:30:58):
Just put flags on these guys at this point.

Speaker 3 (02:31:01):
Rynie Lotts play will.

Speaker 25 (02:31:02):
Get you kicked out of any type of game, any
type of physical hit like that, we'll get you kicked
out of at any level of football these days.

Speaker 5 (02:31:09):
So you might as well just go ahead and put
flags on the guys and call it today.

Speaker 1 (02:31:14):
Called for that MIN'ST Clinic, min'st clinic dot com.

Speaker 5 (02:31:17):
Yeah, people have called and nine to seven two go
Min's t tell Sean senchall or both of them. But yeah,
they listen. It's still a physical game. They don't need flags,
but we are. I've said it many times. The integrity
of the game when it comes to tackle football is
in question.

Speaker 1 (02:31:37):
It just is.

Speaker 5 (02:31:38):
We make every rule for the offense. We we just do.
I mean, and that's a bit hyperbolic, but it is.
And now that hit, that hit was, that hit would
have hurt anybody. You saw him clinch his fist when
he got hit.

Speaker 1 (02:31:51):
It was it was. It was an illegal hit.

Speaker 5 (02:31:53):
There's no cod that had nothing to do with That
has nothing to do with putting red flags on them.
I don't think that's what our caller suggests. That has
nothing to do with it, because it wouldn't have mattered
if it was hell, that might have hurt somebody that
wasn't a quarterback. You know, that was just one of
those It's unfortunate the size of the quarterback that hit.
It just it happened, and that's that's not a red

(02:32:14):
flag requirement. But we are to the point of flags
being like you really kind of call that when he
brushes by the quarterback in the pocket. Yeah, this is
this is a different one different. It was nasty and
and the thing about it too in the open field
for everybody to see.

Speaker 1 (02:32:30):
It wasn't in a pile, you know what I mean.
And it just it was he.

Speaker 5 (02:32:33):
Got hit with a hard suspension and it's a couple
million bucks considering what he makes for salary. That's and
that's an expensive, expensive hit on a quarterback. But yes,
we overprotect quarterbacks. This one we didn't overprotect him. That
was vicious. Yeah, But most of the time, especially in
the pocket, we we we don't. We don't play enough
tackle football in the pocket with quarterbacks. Yeah, defensive players

(02:32:54):
get hosed. A let's see, I brain is ready. I'm
letting him back in the ball game. Hey after nine, Brandon,
good morning, Oh Brandon, come on, dog, I'll let you
back in.

Speaker 1 (02:33:10):
What's going on? Okay?

Speaker 17 (02:33:13):
Okay, okay, I was got got up this morning and
I was Christian.

Speaker 1 (02:33:19):
Okay, what's on your mind about.

Speaker 17 (02:33:21):
The Texans anyway? The Texans, Yes, the Texans, But do
you know what time are there playing for Christmas?

Speaker 4 (02:33:32):
Take Brandon, buddy, We love you and we enjoy you
calling in this program.

Speaker 1 (02:33:40):
But you just you're gonna have to google it.

Speaker 2 (02:33:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:33:42):
You got do you have? Alexa?

Speaker 17 (02:33:44):
Not time, but you got it, You got it.

Speaker 1 (02:33:46):
You gotta ask Alexa. Man, I actually have no idea
what time they play? They play at three thirty on Christmas? Yeah,
I didn't know they play Christmas. Yeah they play on Christmas. Yeah, okay,
thank you, Brandon. Yeah what else you got?

Speaker 4 (02:34:01):
I got about twenty seconds before you left.

Speaker 17 (02:34:06):
Needs to do good?

Speaker 1 (02:34:07):
He does.

Speaker 4 (02:34:07):
They're in a bye week, okay, so there's no game
this Sunday or Thursday or Monday.

Speaker 7 (02:34:14):
Hey, that's why I need.

Speaker 4 (02:34:15):
Thank you, Brandon, talk to you tomorrow, you two. I'm
not your Google dog love Brandon, but you know what,
but you end up being a his Google because you
told him, well Tripley.

Speaker 1 (02:34:28):
Didn't even know. Yeah, you told him Christmas. Excuse me.
That's nice of you, though, it was nice, But you
know you're you're also in the teaching thing too, right
the Google. I didn't know the time of the game,
what times the game? I didn't know we played. I
know they played for the game. Are trolling me?

Speaker 7 (02:34:47):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:34:47):
I promise you. I did not know what time the
game was on Christmas Day. Dude, I'm trying. I don't
even know what time the games are on this Sunday, Okay,
I try to. No, I do noon in three sometimes
three twenty five. If you get that late. I'm just tald.
I had no I knew they played on Christmas. I
just didn't know what time the game was.

Speaker 1 (02:35:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:35:03):
So the Chiefs have the noon kickoff on Christmas and
then the Texans have the three point thirty kickoff on Christmas.

Speaker 5 (02:35:13):
Making the Chiefs play early. It's not like them making.

Speaker 1 (02:35:17):
The Chiefs games are gonna be on Netflix.

Speaker 5 (02:35:19):
Yeah, there you go. So that I did know, but
I didn't know what time the game was. So you
were nice.

Speaker 1 (02:35:24):
Thank you. Google. You're al come you would just call
me Googlema, you know? There you go.

Speaker 4 (02:35:30):
I like it, Brian, Google DLIMI you did you teaching
lesson to to.

Speaker 5 (02:35:35):
Tell me, you know, talk sports, But if you want
to go there, you're gonna have to Google it and
be the TV guy. Yeah we got you, love Brandon.
Yeah me too. You can call me anything you want,
just don't call me late for dinner. Never heard that one,
new one. I got a sciatic right now, it's terrible
on fire the worst. Oh man, Yeah, put my.

Speaker 1 (02:35:58):
Thumb right there again, Yeah again. One two's better. Yeah,
it's sciatic.

Speaker 4 (02:36:05):
Anne, Well, all right, Texan's is gonna be without a
z's al Shi year for three games. He is appealing
that suspension. Uh, let's do a little uh little USC talk.
Shawn's upset about something with his USC Trojans quarterback entering
the transfer portal triple. We're gonna have to talking about

(02:36:27):
the ledge, all right. That's how we're gonna have to
end the show.

Speaker 1 (02:36:29):
Let's do it.

Speaker 8 (02:36:30):
Next.

Speaker 1 (02:36:30):
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:36:33):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven.

Speaker 1 (02:36:36):
Ninety for the San Francisco forty nine or so.

Speaker 4 (02:36:39):
Uh, it looks like indeed disease will lose two point
one million dollars. We talked a little bit about that earlier,
but that is the amount that he'll lose.

Speaker 5 (02:36:50):
Stiff tok about that, tough. You're like, man, I'm waiting
getting a Christmas bonuses and now I did play out checking.

Speaker 1 (02:37:00):
Now I'm losing two point one. That's a loud.

Speaker 5 (02:37:04):
Message, brother, Stiff nice and it were if he if
he's if the appeal goes through and they lessen it
to two games.

Speaker 1 (02:37:13):
You're talking still a buck A buck five? Yeah, four,
that's a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (02:37:19):
Man's a lot of scratch. Sure is Miller Moss see
you later entering the transfer portal.

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
Don't blame him, said quote, time to move on.

Speaker 5 (02:37:27):
This is well, this is uh, this is one of
those they did the old I confess he did it.
I mean it wasn't I confess he did it. That
it was on and he could have played better, there's
no doubt. But at this stage of the game, when
you're that far along in your career and he stuck
it out. Matter of fact, one, it's so ironic. Opening

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game of the season LSU Southern Cal. What are we
saying about nuss Meyer and Moss both stuck it out?
Hung in hellens Meyer may come back another year and
be at that the first round pick next year would
would be great for his development. And you got Moss
and who stuck it out, and at this point in
time he's not going to get a chance to get
that gig back. This is why the transfer portal for
me works. Yes, now, the guy who's got some experience

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went in there, finally finally won the job, and then
lost the job later in the season on a coach's decision,
and is now going to go and play somewhere else
to give himself a chance.

Speaker 1 (02:38:21):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:38:22):
That's why we have the transfer portal. He's not leaving
for more money. He's leaving because he wants a.

Speaker 1 (02:38:28):
Chance to play.

Speaker 5 (02:38:29):
But the rules say you can leave for more money,
So I understand why guys do that too.

Speaker 1 (02:38:34):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:38:35):
But he's leaving because he wants a chance to play,
and somebody will get a good thrower.

Speaker 1 (02:38:39):
He's a good player. In what world are we living
in where USC is six and six?

Speaker 5 (02:38:45):
A world that you're not physical anymore and you're finessed
people to death, and in the process of finessing people
to death, you get physical to death. They're improved defensively
this year, they did, they got more, they did, they
got better, But the past, the pass defense, he saw
the big plays they give up, And true they weren't
as overly as efficient as there normally are offensively as well,

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so that while they got a little bit big better defensively,
guess what they didn't do a little bit better is
not good enough to compete with Texas and Georgia and
Alabama and LSU and Oregon.

Speaker 1 (02:39:18):
I mean compete, yes, but I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:39:19):
Talking about go run through that gauntlet and be able
to deal with all that.

Speaker 1 (02:39:24):
They're just not.

Speaker 5 (02:39:25):
It's cringeworthy for SC former players that I talk to guys,
different guys all the time. Do you realize that the
alumni from this school and the big money donors would
rather win games? Now, who wouldn't rather go fifty when
Caleb was at his best?

Speaker 1 (02:39:40):
But fifty two to twenty that'd be great.

Speaker 5 (02:39:42):
Problem is it was forty eight to forty four, you'd
lose Tulane or whatever the score was. Is that I'm
just telling you to rarely do I run into somebody
that wants more offense. You know what they want, and
they want to run. We want to The alumni I
know want to wear you out running the football. Beat
you thirty one to three. Now, that's a great win.

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My point is is that they're past and they never
have been about gaudy offensive statistics for the running back.
They want running back to carry at thirty times a game.
Student body right, wear you out as an offensive line.
Have two guys that are first round picks on the
offensive line and fly around and beat your brains in
defensively and be physical and will beat you that way.

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They don't really sc alum and four players aren't really.
It just was never in the DNA to be to
win fifty.

Speaker 1 (02:40:30):
Two to forty eight.

Speaker 5 (02:40:32):
That was what we well, I when we were there,
that was big twelve stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:40:35):
That's how you looked at it back in the year.

Speaker 5 (02:40:38):
That was Oh, that's for the BYU, that's for the
Mountain West and the Whack when it was the Whack
Conference back. You know, as it rolls along. Now, I
know the game's changed, but they still want to win.
You find the coach that wins twenty four to to
ten and they're a top fifteen defense in the country
and fiftieth offensively, but they're winning, that coach will keep

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his job. I'm just telling you they that that school
despises the alumni and former players that I know despise
Finesse play. Now we love THEE Yeah it's great, but
when you have Reggie Bush and Matt Lionert, but you
also have that's my point, three linebackers that all played

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in the NFL SAM, So that's my point. Now, yeah,
we all like the best of all worlds where you
can hang fifty on somebody and hold them to ten.
It's not usually realistic, but you get my point. But
the coach, they do not want the coach who's a
flare on offense. Yet they we need the flare on
offense to get recruits. You get my point. You got

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to have a guy nil and all that matters, But
you got in order to get the best quarterback in
the country. Guess what you got to do. You got
to have finesse and throw it. They don't want to
go someplace where you hand it off and run it.
They don't want to throw fifteen twenty twenty one times
a game. So there's that catch. And then how do
you not have a fence around the state of or
the city of Los Angeles, for the state of California

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or southern California. There's enough great players there to get
great defense. Physical wear you out, guys, and that's why
the PAC twelve and now no PAC twelve. But it
has been criticized being too soft finesse wise, right when
Washington was at their best last year, what were they
wear you out? The line of scripts right, so so good. Yeah,

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there's no doubt you'd like both. But in order to
get certain recruits, you've got to have great finesse football.
The problem is you can't practice finesse because then you
lose the physicality that when you run into Georgia's or
Texas is to wear you out the line of scrimmage.
So it's a catch twenty two and you better start
spending money.

Speaker 4 (02:42:38):
Also with your Boston Red Sox. They just agreed on
a one year deal ten points seventy five million dollars
with Rattus Chapman. They'll look good in the socks, uniform radesst. Chapman,
thirty six years old headed to Boston.

Speaker 1 (02:42:53):
I'll take it that that's an improvement, little upgrade. We'll
take it. M mmmmm sure a great all Sox fans. Yes,
I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (02:43:03):
So actually, so it looks like, uh yeah, spot track,
let's see. So spot Track actually put out the uh
exact things of money that Shire is going to lose.

Speaker 1 (02:43:17):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (02:43:17):
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars of salary eighty eight
thousand per game bonus, So what is that?

Speaker 5 (02:43:23):
That's one hundred So wait a minute, so it's not
two point one, it's three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (02:43:29):
Yeah, two hundred fifty thousand dollars of salary eighty eight thousand,
two hundred and thirty five per game bonus.

Speaker 5 (02:43:35):
So is that three hundred grand a game? Where'd you
get the two point one number? Then that was what
we did earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:43:41):
I know that's how you You just said that. They
said that that's what he was losing.

Speaker 7 (02:43:45):
Yah.

Speaker 1 (02:43:45):
I saw a writer, Jordan Schultz or or somebody put it.

Speaker 4 (02:43:48):
Out at m R JLF tweeted me the screenshot of
the spot track thing.

Speaker 1 (02:43:54):
Well, that's not what I saw. I saw from an.

Speaker 5 (02:43:56):
NFL somewhere between one million bucks seven or fifty grand
and a million million whatever it is. It's a salary's
twelve million a year. You gotta do the math. But
if it's not, then that's another thing. Hell, I don't know.
I just know it's going to be expensive.

Speaker 1 (02:44:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:44:11):
The tweet that I saw earlier that I talked about
the two point one was from one of the NFL riders.

Speaker 5 (02:44:16):
Well, when they're looking at the salary and the sutra
two different ways.

Speaker 4 (02:44:20):
Yeah, either way, it's it's gonna suck for this defense.
Sure is so for him? Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk
about it much more uh this week with Yeah that
Is Sean Salisbury. Emmanuel Elmore is our producer, Ian Brian Lillema.
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