December 5, 2024 • 16 mins
As the week continues to roll on, the NFL has given Texans LB Azeez Al-Shaair a three game suspension regarding his ferocious hit on Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence Sunday afternoon. Aiming to appeal the three game suspension, the league denied the Texans appeal for a lesser suspension now making Al-Shaair miss the most important part of the schedule. Following the Texans coming out of a Bye week they take on the Dolphins, Chiefs, and the Ravens in the span of just ten days before the postseason kicks off. Looking across the league regarding the suspension and hearing from former players and quarterbacks weighing in on the topic, many believe the suspension sends a message but seems to be a bit harsh regarding Azeez hasn't had much a track record regarding suspensions to this degree in his career. Can we say that the NFL has a tendency to overprotect the quarterback regarding the rules and how officials tend to the position?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury, Old Berry, Salisbury, Houston.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury to usc truth, longtime friend,
Shawn Salisbury, Bryan l Lima, go Lobos. This is the
Seawan Salsbury Show, nine o'clock tip off tonight eight pm.
(00:27):
Launch pad here on seven nine your home four Rockets
Basketball Texans as you know, on their bye week. Ause
he's aushi here his suspension upheld for three games. Sewn
triple Ley. Good morning. It's also a special day here
at iHeartMedia Houston. We've got our Saint Jude radiothon sponsored
by Gallery Furniture. Obviously, you can become a monthly donor
(00:49):
by pledging just nineteen dollars a month to help a
kid help kids at Saint Jude fight cancer. We do
this every single year and it's a phenomenal two days.
It'll be today and tomorrow. Seawan, Yeah, good morning, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It is this Saint Jude is well, been a part
of it for a while and just to be see
the difference, So turn on your TV and and listen
to the emotion. I mean, it's it's it's phenomenal to
the point of it'll you want to talk about tugging
at your emotions. It'll it will, You'll crawl ten miles
(01:23):
over broken glass to help any way you can.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So God bless them.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Grateful we get to be a part of it, and
our bosses here and the people involved from Eddie and
Mark and the rest of them are so Uh. And
and you know Gallery Furniture is obviously sponsors this as well,
and Mattress Mac. We we are fortunate to have people
that care a lot and rightfully so. It's one of
our favorite weeks of the year, especially these two days
(01:49):
where we get to be a part of it, a
small part of it. You and I get to be out,
but you know, anything you can do to help, making
donations and the rest of it, it's changing lives and
saving lives. And grateful for him and so grateful they're
here today and we get to be a part of
it the next couple of days and every year, so
and thankful to our bosses it allow us to do this. Yeah,
and we last year raised over a million dollars. Last
(02:13):
year's efforts over a million dollars. That was combined with
a Saint Jude golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Uh. And also of course our radio Fion which will
be today and tomorrow across all of our radio stations
here heart, yeah, through my heart here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
And you know what is you don't yeah, right here
in this building with that's a lot of money. But
why stop there, you know, I mean, we keep doing
it because we keep wanting to make a difference and
it's needed and grateful for all those that contribute, and again,
so good. It's always an honor to be a part
of it. So thanks to Saint Jude and listen up,
(02:46):
there'll be a lot of great stuff and we look
forward to uh to having you guys be a part
of it as well.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, and we will. We will have little stories here
and there about kids that were battling cancer and how
they came through it and how much Sat Jud's help them.
And of course we'll be giving out the number to
donate if you want to become a Pledge member to
give out excuse me to give out some hope to
a children, some children at Saint Jude's. It's a spectacular
(03:13):
thing that Saint Juws does every single day for these
for these.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Really simple I mean, it saves lives as well, and
it saves lives every dime does, and it's it's important,
you know, it's we're grateful for it, but it's important
that every donation matters. It doesn't matter how much we'll
try to beat that goal. So we can also make
a difference here. So partners in Hope matter grateful to
(03:40):
be a part of that, and I'm grateful to be
a partner and Hope and we'll continue to do so.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, it's a really good thing what Saint Jews does.
The families don't have to pay for anything when their
kid is unfortunately battling cancer, going through treatments and stays
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
As if the families don't have enough Streuss. What an
unbelievable thing that Saint Jude's has been doing for so long.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So we'll be hitting on that all morning long. And
again it's the Saint Jude Radio Thoon sponsored by Gallery Furniture.
On the sports side of things, well, Aziz Aushaire, his
case was heard by Ramon Foster, former player, and it
was upheld three games. So Aziz Aushaire will be out
(04:20):
for the next three games. And you know those three games,
the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Ravens. Three games ten days.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
They will not have him on that defense, Well, if
they don't play better in the second half offensively, it
won't matter if he's on the field or not. That's
they're going to have to take care of their business
offensively and play four quarters, which they don't seem to
do much this year, even at eight and five. But
we're gonna find out just how good they are this
year in the next three weeks, starting next to what Sunday,
(04:49):
I guess it is. I'm anxious to see. I'm anxious
to see. Is it Sunday they played? They played the
next game on Sunday? Or is it Saturday game? The
first time when they.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Come back, it'll be Sunday, and then they will play
Saturday against the Chiefs, and then the following Wednesday, Wednesday,
which is Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I Uh. I'm not shocked that the three game suspension
was held up. The public outcry and the public just
all the coverage would have made it very difficult to
lessen that because of the the the over emphasis, not
just emphasis over emphasis on safety, which is important, but
(05:31):
especially when it comes to quarterback, a battle that I'm
not even talking about. The the uh and he's on
ir is is uh? Trevor Lawrence and so you know
the part of it. And isn't his shoulder heard as well?
So that's a cushion and shoulder as well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's what people uh you know took took uh what
is it umbridge with? Yeah, yesterday basically the news came out,
but no, none of these big time reporters and writers
actually said why he was on IR. It's not because
of the concussion, it's because of his shoulder. Ian Rappaport
was one of the only ones that I saw. Trevor
(06:06):
Lawrence is expected to have surgery to repair his significant
acy joint injury in his left shoulder. His season is over,
he heads to the IR.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I had an ac joint injury, didn't have to have
surgery on it. And when I was in college and
it is you it's it's not fun. And I'm glad
he for him that he's getting it done so he
can have the off season to rehab it and be
ready to go next year. You want good players on
the field and the best of Trevor Lawrence and think
and hopefully the concussion will go away soon.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So he's okay.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But I just think the outcry and the constant visuals
you see on social media and around, there was a
very minimal chance, especially that it was on a quarterback. Now,
when I say that, you obviously know how I feel
that situation. I try to judge every situation by what
(06:57):
I saw on that play or the next play. All
this and well, he's got the reputation, he's all those
things you judge on. I'm talking about the play with
Trevor Lawrence. He should have been suspended. I think it's
too harsh, But I also think the rule, the the
social media and the constant emphasis about quarterbacks you're always
(07:18):
going to hit harder than not. But I also think
that the slide rule needs I think the slide first,
feet first rule is I think it's dumb.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I do I think that. I don't even think most
guys know really quite how to slide.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's like awkward, yeah, and you're you're you're not putting
yourself in a protective situation, as we said yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But this does not surprise me.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And like I told you, if you think the NFL
is going to err on the side of being less protective,
they're not. All this is going to do is heighten
it and don't be shocked if we have more rules
for the quarterback, which to me is absurd. This is
an unfortunate situation, an unfortunate injury, and an unfortunate play.
And there's gonna be people that can't stand it and
(08:01):
the optics of it and think that he's a dirty
player because they keep showing the compilation of other things
that have happened. And then you're gonna see the obviously
listening to the character in the locker room and the
people that swear by him as a person and a
football player. So you're gonna make your own judgment. Most
people aren't going to change theirs. But the NFL has spoken.
It's three and now he's in position, go out and
do it again. Hit somebody late again the second we
(08:25):
won't be good. So now he's got to tread lightly
and what he does, which can almost affect his play.
I just if Trevor Lawrence, if we don't have the
rule and Trevor Lawrence goes shoulder pads first, Trevor.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Lawrence doesn't get we're not talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He's getting prepared, probably still taking whatever shots or whatever
he's doing for his you know, whatever rehab he's doing
for and he's playing next week more than likely. And
you know, it doesn't mean you have to take guy's
head on when you're running out of the pocket. But
I just think that you leave yourself in a very
vulnerable situation and that's not what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Is in true Lawrence's fault.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The rules say slide feet first, but I don't like
the rule and I never have. I think we overprotect
the quarterbacks, notwithstanding the Trevor Lawrence thing. And I think
the feet first slide is part of the reason why
the head's always exposed. Yeah, you don't have anything in
front of it, and unfortunately, and the truth is too.
I think the viciousness of al Shaire's forearm is what's what.
(09:21):
Also where it's like it was almost like it was
forced forearm right, Whether it's.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Intention or not, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't think he tried to maim Trevor Lawrence, right,
but the optics weren't good. And I get why people
don't like it. And I also get why the you know,
when you appeal it that they looked at it said no,
can't do it. They're going to always err on the
side of that quarterback. They do on any quarterback. They
just are, whether we like it or not. And I
think we overprotect him in this situation. The optics were awful.
(09:49):
It was out, it was just him. It wasn't like
eight players around. It was him and Lawrence in the
open field. And unfortunately, I told you, I said, I
doubt it's going to get reduced. If anything, it'd be
one game, but not taking this down any farther. Yeah,
he's got three games. It's gonna be expensive, and it's
gonna cost him reputation wise, unfortunately. Yeah, now he's gonna
have to fix out with referees and the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Outside of the attack on his character and everything to
be made about him, Shy, you're the player. The biggest
thing that's come to light about this whole situation is
the feet first slide for quarterbacks. I saw multiple videos
yesterday of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen from this season
where they run towards a first down and it looks
(10:33):
like they're about to slide, and it shows a defender
literally stopping themselves and then they take off like there's
a play. This year, I can't remember who Josh Allen
who the Buffalo Bills were playing it looks like Josh
Allen's about to slide. It looks like he's about to
start the slide with his right foot going forward. Yep,
he pivots, takes off for an extra seven yard, scores
a touchdown because the defender literally stopped because he didn't
(10:54):
want to hit the quarterback. Of course, that's a touchdown.
You just had to give up a touchdown because you
thought the quarterback was gonna slide.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And Josh Allen's about six five two forty And if
you if you do that and hesitate and you just
kind of sit back on your heels, and then he
re reaccelerates with his big body and puts his helmet
in your your strands and runs you over.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, you become a.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Highlight video right again and again, no question, And they
show it five thousand times and nobody says anything other
than ooh, Josh Allen. But you know, bitch slapped him,
you know what I'm saying, or ran through him. Who
quarterback tougher than the guy, Yet the guy simply broke.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Down in front like I can't hit him like I
want to. So it's just not right.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And listen, I understand, within the rule, you can do
what you do because they've allowed it. But Mahomes is
the worst instigator of it all. Now, I don't promote
him getting hit or hurt, but he milks it. I'm
talking about throughout his career. It's a regular occurrence. I
saw another compilation video of him doing it. I mean
(11:57):
he does this stuff damn near couple times a game.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah. If it seems like if.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I the thought process of a defensive player once they
I mean they're already limited on how they can play. Hum,
what's gonna happen when he pulls when it's not an
okie doke and he starts to slide? So what happens
when Mahomes all of a sudden gets towards the sideline
(12:23):
and he does that fake step out of bounds or
hesitate like he's going down and then cut back inside
for fifteen more yards? What's gonna happen when one guy
says not today, son, Yeah, and they run him through
and knock him back into Andy Reid's lap and I'm
talking about whiplash hit. They're gonna call penalty and everybody's
just say, you can't hit Mahomes like that, and we're
gonna sit there and say, well, if I'm the player,
(12:48):
I'm no longer erin on the side of breaking down
and let him get fifteen more yards. I'm gonna hit him, Yeah,
not hurt him, but I'm gonna hit him legally. But
is see, like I said, I promote I do. If
I'm cooking, you hit them as hard as you possibly
can legally and fairly, not head hunt. Hit him as
hard as a hand, and you send a message the
way football is supposed to be sent.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But they milk it all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
They milk it all and they're good at it, and
the rule says you can so until they change the rule.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Like I said, we overprotect quardecks.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Don't you think quarterback's reputation in the last fifteen years
has taken a hit? Yes, it even when you're a
great player and doesn't deserve to take a hit. Not
a hit on the field, the literal hit from like
the way that we look at you. Okay, if I
ask you who's tougher, Patrick Mahomes or Jim Kelly, what
are you going to say, even it may not be true,
what are you gonna say? Jim Kelly, Yeah, he's one
(13:38):
of the toughest of all time, regardless of who you're
talking about. If I say Dan Marino or John Elway
or Jim Patrick Mahomes or I don't care, Trevor Lawrence,
who are you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
John Elway? And they may not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Be the case, but the rules have made it to
where you respect the toughness of a guy, then then
you do. Now why because they had to play true
tackle football.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
When was the last time you saw a quarterback leap
up into the air and get helicoptered around like John Elway? Yeah?
I just I mean, honestly, when was the last time
you saw it? Josh Aden is the only one that
I can kind of think of that actually would put
his body on the lines to try to score time.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Everybody out there google Mike tom Zach hit when he
was an NFL the biggest hit in the NFL on
Mike tom Zach when you go to break You google
that and you want to say, how.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Did he ever get up? Yeah? Google that.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm not saying they're tougher, but I'm talking about the
perception is is your perception that Mahomes is tougher than
l Way? No, he mcgret the right and he may
very well be just as tough. My point is the
rules have made it where I think quarterbacks toughness, even
though they may be tough, has taken a hit. Yeah,
because the rules. And that's another reason why I don't
think quarterbacks like you like it while the game's going on.
(14:48):
When when you walk off the field into room, if
I set fifteen guys from two thousand and back to
two thousand and in front, you know what, You're going
to look across the room at each other like a
hat Fields and Cooy's duel. The guys that are playing
now are gonna say, and we could compete with you
that way. But I almost sit on your side of
the room when it comes to the toughness and the
rules that have created us to be painted as a
(15:11):
little softer, Yeah, which is not fair to them, right,
and they milk the rule and I would too.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But let's slow down now. These rules need to change.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
We are overly protective of these quarterbacks, but we don't
give a rats ass about a receiver who doesn't slight feed.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
First right or the center right left tackle, the right tackle.
Don't care the guards like it doesn't matter. It's all
about the quarterback. I as a quarterback, I am all
for getting rid of the rule. Once you break the pocket,
you're a football player. Yeah, you're free run.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Now you got to do what you've got to do
to protect yourself and learn how to free runner.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
What should the NFL do about the sliding of the quarterback.
We'll talk about it next and again our Saint Jude
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Saulsbury, Old Berry, Salisbury, Houston.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury to usc truth, longtime friend,
Shawn Salisbury, Bryan l Lima, go Lobos. This is the
Seawan Salsbury Show, nine o'clock tip off tonight eight pm.
(00:27):
Launch pad here on seven nine your home four Rockets
Basketball Texans as you know, on their bye week. Ause
he's aushi here his suspension upheld for three games. Sewn
triple Ley. Good morning. It's also a special day here
at iHeartMedia Houston. We've got our Saint Jude radiothon sponsored
by Gallery Furniture. Obviously, you can become a monthly donor
(00:49):
by pledging just nineteen dollars a month to help a
kid help kids at Saint Jude fight cancer. We do
this every single year and it's a phenomenal two days.
It'll be today and tomorrow. Seawan, Yeah, good morning, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It is this Saint Jude is well, been a part
of it for a while and just to be see
the difference, So turn on your TV and and listen
to the emotion. I mean, it's it's it's phenomenal to
the point of it'll you want to talk about tugging
at your emotions. It'll it will, You'll crawl ten miles
(01:23):
over broken glass to help any way you can.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So God bless them.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Grateful we get to be a part of it, and
our bosses here and the people involved from Eddie and
Mark and the rest of them are so Uh. And
and you know Gallery Furniture is obviously sponsors this as well,
and Mattress Mac. We we are fortunate to have people
that care a lot and rightfully so. It's one of
our favorite weeks of the year, especially these two days
(01:49):
where we get to be a part of it, a
small part of it. You and I get to be out,
but you know, anything you can do to help, making
donations and the rest of it, it's changing lives and
saving lives. And grateful for him and so grateful they're
here today and we get to be a part of
it the next couple of days and every year, so
and thankful to our bosses it allow us to do this. Yeah,
and we last year raised over a million dollars. Last
(02:13):
year's efforts over a million dollars. That was combined with
a Saint Jude golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Uh. And also of course our radio Fion which will
be today and tomorrow across all of our radio stations
here heart, yeah, through my heart here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
And you know what is you don't yeah, right here
in this building with that's a lot of money. But
why stop there, you know, I mean, we keep doing
it because we keep wanting to make a difference and
it's needed and grateful for all those that contribute, and again,
so good. It's always an honor to be a part
of it. So thanks to Saint Jude and listen up,
(02:46):
there'll be a lot of great stuff and we look
forward to uh to having you guys be a part
of it as well.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, and we will. We will have little stories here
and there about kids that were battling cancer and how
they came through it and how much Sat Jud's help them.
And of course we'll be giving out the number to
donate if you want to become a Pledge member to
give out excuse me to give out some hope to
a children, some children at Saint Jude's. It's a spectacular
(03:13):
thing that Saint Juws does every single day for these
for these.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Really simple I mean, it saves lives as well, and
it saves lives every dime does, and it's it's important,
you know, it's we're grateful for it, but it's important
that every donation matters. It doesn't matter how much we'll
try to beat that goal. So we can also make
a difference here. So partners in Hope matter grateful to
(03:40):
be a part of that, and I'm grateful to be
a partner and Hope and we'll continue to do so.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, it's a really good thing what Saint Jews does.
The families don't have to pay for anything when their
kid is unfortunately battling cancer, going through treatments and stays
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
As if the families don't have enough Streuss. What an
unbelievable thing that Saint Jude's has been doing for so long.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So we'll be hitting on that all morning long. And
again it's the Saint Jude Radio Thoon sponsored by Gallery Furniture.
On the sports side of things, well, Aziz Aushaire, his
case was heard by Ramon Foster, former player, and it
was upheld three games. So Aziz Aushaire will be out
(04:20):
for the next three games. And you know those three games,
the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Ravens. Three games ten days.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
They will not have him on that defense, Well, if
they don't play better in the second half offensively, it
won't matter if he's on the field or not. That's
they're going to have to take care of their business
offensively and play four quarters, which they don't seem to
do much this year, even at eight and five. But
we're gonna find out just how good they are this
year in the next three weeks, starting next to what Sunday,
(04:49):
I guess it is. I'm anxious to see. I'm anxious
to see. Is it Sunday they played? They played the
next game on Sunday? Or is it Saturday game? The
first time when they.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Come back, it'll be Sunday, and then they will play
Saturday against the Chiefs, and then the following Wednesday, Wednesday,
which is Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I Uh. I'm not shocked that the three game suspension
was held up. The public outcry and the public just
all the coverage would have made it very difficult to
lessen that because of the the the over emphasis, not
just emphasis over emphasis on safety, which is important, but
(05:31):
especially when it comes to quarterback, a battle that I'm
not even talking about. The the uh and he's on
ir is is uh? Trevor Lawrence and so you know
the part of it. And isn't his shoulder heard as well?
So that's a cushion and shoulder as well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's what people uh you know took took uh what
is it umbridge with? Yeah, yesterday basically the news came out,
but no, none of these big time reporters and writers
actually said why he was on IR. It's not because
of the concussion, it's because of his shoulder. Ian Rappaport
was one of the only ones that I saw. Trevor
(06:06):
Lawrence is expected to have surgery to repair his significant
acy joint injury in his left shoulder. His season is over,
he heads to the IR.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I had an ac joint injury, didn't have to have
surgery on it. And when I was in college and
it is you it's it's not fun. And I'm glad
he for him that he's getting it done so he
can have the off season to rehab it and be
ready to go next year. You want good players on
the field and the best of Trevor Lawrence and think
and hopefully the concussion will go away soon.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So he's okay.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But I just think the outcry and the constant visuals
you see on social media and around, there was a
very minimal chance, especially that it was on a quarterback. Now,
when I say that, you obviously know how I feel
that situation. I try to judge every situation by what
(06:57):
I saw on that play or the next play. All
this and well, he's got the reputation, he's all those
things you judge on. I'm talking about the play with
Trevor Lawrence. He should have been suspended. I think it's
too harsh, But I also think the rule, the the
social media and the constant emphasis about quarterbacks you're always
(07:18):
going to hit harder than not. But I also think
that the slide rule needs I think the slide first,
feet first rule is I think it's dumb.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I do I think that. I don't even think most
guys know really quite how to slide.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's like awkward, yeah, and you're you're you're not putting
yourself in a protective situation, as we said yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But this does not surprise me.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And like I told you, if you think the NFL
is going to err on the side of being less protective,
they're not. All this is going to do is heighten
it and don't be shocked if we have more rules
for the quarterback, which to me is absurd. This is
an unfortunate situation, an unfortunate injury, and an unfortunate play.
And there's gonna be people that can't stand it and
(08:01):
the optics of it and think that he's a dirty
player because they keep showing the compilation of other things
that have happened. And then you're gonna see the obviously
listening to the character in the locker room and the
people that swear by him as a person and a
football player. So you're gonna make your own judgment. Most
people aren't going to change theirs. But the NFL has spoken.
It's three and now he's in position, go out and
do it again. Hit somebody late again the second we
(08:25):
won't be good. So now he's got to tread lightly
and what he does, which can almost affect his play.
I just if Trevor Lawrence, if we don't have the
rule and Trevor Lawrence goes shoulder pads first, Trevor.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Lawrence doesn't get we're not talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He's getting prepared, probably still taking whatever shots or whatever
he's doing for his you know, whatever rehab he's doing
for and he's playing next week more than likely. And
you know, it doesn't mean you have to take guy's
head on when you're running out of the pocket. But
I just think that you leave yourself in a very
vulnerable situation and that's not what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Is in true Lawrence's fault.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The rules say slide feet first, but I don't like
the rule and I never have. I think we overprotect
the quarterbacks, notwithstanding the Trevor Lawrence thing. And I think
the feet first slide is part of the reason why
the head's always exposed. Yeah, you don't have anything in
front of it, and unfortunately, and the truth is too.
I think the viciousness of al Shaire's forearm is what's what.
(09:21):
Also where it's like it was almost like it was
forced forearm right, Whether it's.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Intention or not, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't think he tried to maim Trevor Lawrence, right,
but the optics weren't good. And I get why people
don't like it. And I also get why the you know,
when you appeal it that they looked at it said no,
can't do it. They're going to always err on the
side of that quarterback. They do on any quarterback. They
just are, whether we like it or not. And I
think we overprotect him in this situation. The optics were awful.
(09:49):
It was out, it was just him. It wasn't like
eight players around. It was him and Lawrence in the
open field. And unfortunately, I told you, I said, I
doubt it's going to get reduced. If anything, it'd be
one game, but not taking this down any farther. Yeah,
he's got three games. It's gonna be expensive, and it's
gonna cost him reputation wise, unfortunately. Yeah, now he's gonna
have to fix out with referees and the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Outside of the attack on his character and everything to
be made about him, Shy, you're the player. The biggest
thing that's come to light about this whole situation is
the feet first slide for quarterbacks. I saw multiple videos
yesterday of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen from this season
where they run towards a first down and it looks
(10:33):
like they're about to slide, and it shows a defender
literally stopping themselves and then they take off like there's
a play. This year, I can't remember who Josh Allen
who the Buffalo Bills were playing it looks like Josh
Allen's about to slide. It looks like he's about to
start the slide with his right foot going forward. Yep,
he pivots, takes off for an extra seven yard, scores
a touchdown because the defender literally stopped because he didn't
(10:54):
want to hit the quarterback. Of course, that's a touchdown.
You just had to give up a touchdown because you
thought the quarterback was gonna slide.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And Josh Allen's about six five two forty And if
you if you do that and hesitate and you just
kind of sit back on your heels, and then he
re reaccelerates with his big body and puts his helmet
in your your strands and runs you over.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, you become a.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Highlight video right again and again, no question, And they
show it five thousand times and nobody says anything other
than ooh, Josh Allen. But you know, bitch slapped him,
you know what I'm saying, or ran through him. Who
quarterback tougher than the guy, Yet the guy simply broke.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Down in front like I can't hit him like I
want to. So it's just not right.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And listen, I understand, within the rule, you can do
what you do because they've allowed it. But Mahomes is
the worst instigator of it all. Now, I don't promote
him getting hit or hurt, but he milks it. I'm
talking about throughout his career. It's a regular occurrence. I
saw another compilation video of him doing it. I mean
(11:57):
he does this stuff damn near couple times a game.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah. If it seems like if.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I the thought process of a defensive player once they
I mean they're already limited on how they can play. Hum,
what's gonna happen when he pulls when it's not an
okie doke and he starts to slide? So what happens
when Mahomes all of a sudden gets towards the sideline
(12:23):
and he does that fake step out of bounds or
hesitate like he's going down and then cut back inside
for fifteen more yards? What's gonna happen when one guy
says not today, son, Yeah, and they run him through
and knock him back into Andy Reid's lap and I'm
talking about whiplash hit. They're gonna call penalty and everybody's
just say, you can't hit Mahomes like that, and we're
gonna sit there and say, well, if I'm the player,
(12:48):
I'm no longer erin on the side of breaking down
and let him get fifteen more yards. I'm gonna hit him, Yeah,
not hurt him, but I'm gonna hit him legally. But
is see, like I said, I promote I do. If
I'm cooking, you hit them as hard as you possibly
can legally and fairly, not head hunt. Hit him as
hard as a hand, and you send a message the
way football is supposed to be sent.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But they milk it all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
They milk it all and they're good at it, and
the rule says you can so until they change the rule.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Like I said, we overprotect quardecks.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Don't you think quarterback's reputation in the last fifteen years
has taken a hit? Yes, it even when you're a
great player and doesn't deserve to take a hit. Not
a hit on the field, the literal hit from like
the way that we look at you. Okay, if I
ask you who's tougher, Patrick Mahomes or Jim Kelly, what
are you going to say, even it may not be true,
what are you gonna say? Jim Kelly, Yeah, he's one
(13:38):
of the toughest of all time, regardless of who you're
talking about. If I say Dan Marino or John Elway
or Jim Patrick Mahomes or I don't care, Trevor Lawrence,
who are you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
John Elway? And they may not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Be the case, but the rules have made it to
where you respect the toughness of a guy, then then
you do. Now why because they had to play true
tackle football.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
When was the last time you saw a quarterback leap
up into the air and get helicoptered around like John Elway? Yeah?
I just I mean, honestly, when was the last time
you saw it? Josh Aden is the only one that
I can kind of think of that actually would put
his body on the lines to try to score time.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Everybody out there google Mike tom Zach hit when he
was an NFL the biggest hit in the NFL on
Mike tom Zach when you go to break You google
that and you want to say, how.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Did he ever get up? Yeah? Google that.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm not saying they're tougher, but I'm talking about the
perception is is your perception that Mahomes is tougher than
l Way? No, he mcgret the right and he may
very well be just as tough. My point is the
rules have made it where I think quarterbacks toughness, even
though they may be tough, has taken a hit. Yeah,
because the rules. And that's another reason why I don't
think quarterbacks like you like it while the game's going on.
(14:48):
When when you walk off the field into room, if
I set fifteen guys from two thousand and back to
two thousand and in front, you know what, You're going
to look across the room at each other like a
hat Fields and Cooy's duel. The guys that are playing
now are gonna say, and we could compete with you
that way. But I almost sit on your side of
the room when it comes to the toughness and the
rules that have created us to be painted as a
(15:11):
little softer, Yeah, which is not fair to them, right,
and they milk the rule and I would too.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But let's slow down now. These rules need to change.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
We are overly protective of these quarterbacks, but we don't
give a rats ass about a receiver who doesn't slight feed.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
First right or the center right left tackle, the right tackle.
Don't care the guards like it doesn't matter. It's all
about the quarterback. I as a quarterback, I am all
for getting rid of the rule. Once you break the pocket,
you're a football player. Yeah, you're free run.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Now you got to do what you've got to do
to protect yourself and learn how to free runner.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
What should the NFL do about the sliding of the quarterback.
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