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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury old by Houston.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Shawn Salisbury to USC true longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Shawn Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Your Houston Rockets take down the Warriors. They're headed to
the semifinals of the NBA Cup in Vegas. Bill Belichick,
the new head coach at the University of North Carolina,
got some Thursday night football action tonight in the NFL.
It's the Los Angeles Rams taken on the San Francisco
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forty nine ers. MLB Winter meetings coming to a close.
So many reports, rumors, hot Stove about Kyle Tucker, Alex Bregman,
Sewn tripley, good morning was a.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Little bit of shit goo, Jalen Green knocking down Charity stripes,
Jabari Smith pumping home fifteen beating the Golden State Warriors
for the first time since eighteen forty. Yeah, you know
we talk about chips, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Go get a cup, Go get a cup.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
He's not just chips about cup a cup and uh,
Golden State.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know what they'll roll up in here.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Don't roll up in here, your punk asses back, take
your take your back to the left coast.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Take your championship window that closed down. I have Steve
Kurz talk about politics and get your ass out of town.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He bitched, moaning complain per usual after the game last night.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Well well wait a second, you wait, you're telling me honestly? Yeah,
you know the key here, Jayalen Green had less than
fifteen points last night and still knock down those free throws.
That's see, That's where I know that they're getting so
much better. Is when you're a star player and shan
guns sh gun double double weight and happen held a
triple double weight to happen? Would they do at the
end block a shot? Now that Hey, your best player
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scores lesson I mean score scores less than fifteen consistent
player and he's really Jaden Green's a star in the making.
He they he knocks down two free throws. So even
though he's not playing his best game, still knocks down
two free throws. I'll let you know the effect him.
The game's under one hundred, so you know you've got
to defend and then they defend the last one. Get
back down on defense and defend the last shot. So
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as Steve kirkham Fitch and complaint. Oh, of course that
never happens never, He's never done that before. But that
which you saw to see winning games like that. Forget that,
it's just golden State. The fact that how they won
the game is that the free throw line at the
end and defending it, defending at the other end. Love it.
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Congratulations Sam on the way to the semifinals. What Oklahoma
City thunder.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Up neck h OKC is up next in those semifinals
for the NBA.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Come.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Here's what happened pregame last night. Warriors coming to Houston.
Here's what the Rockets players got around, and there's in
their huddle circle.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Here here's what they did.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Wors come out to ploy, Warriors come out to play.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
War come out to play.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And that's from the movie called the Warriors, one of
the all time great movies.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Too.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
This scene is exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
It was exactly the way it was was, Uh, I
love it. They came out to play and they went
home without it. That's Wries and the Warriors came out
to play and they won, just like in that movie.
You don't mess with the Warriors. That was so funny.
One of my favorite things about doing uh, that I
loved in the longest yard. You know, the little guy
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who was a snitch on that that's him, right, he's fast, Yeah, yeah, fat,
that's him. And it really oh yeah, same guy. Oh really,
I didn't know the same guy. And it's just like, oh,
I remember him back in the day. Unless I'm losing
my mind, but we talked about back in the day
when I the Warriors, one of my favorite I loved
him growing up, right, it was awesome. And then this
guy is in the same room, like, this is really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Warriors come out to play.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Ya, that's so funny. I didn't know that was him.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, well, you know, like I said, Steve Kerr, bitch
moan to complain about a call with three and a
half seconds left in the game, and this is baby back, bitch,
Steve Kerr crying all.
Speaker 9 (04:41):
Situation, eighty feet from the basket with the game on
the line. I've never seen that. I think I saw
in college one time thirty years ago. Never seen it
in the NBA. That is, I mean, unconscionable. I don't
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I don't even just happened, you know, loose ball diving
on the floor. Yeah, eighty feet from the basket and
you're gonna give got two free throws to decide the game.
When people are scrambling for the ball, just give them
a timeout, give them a timeout, and let the players
decide the game. That's how you officiate, especially because the
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game was a complete wrestling match.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You know, they didn't call anything.
Speaker 9 (05:29):
Steph Curry got hit on the elbow playing his day
on a jump shot, just.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Clubbed right on there.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
No call.
Speaker 9 (05:36):
So are you've established you're just not gonna call anything
throughout the game.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It's physical game.
Speaker 9 (05:41):
I'm going to call it a loose ball foul on
a jump ball situation with guys diving on the floor.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
With the game on the line, this is.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
A go ahead, you know what, triple go ahead and
cut it. There's still forty forty more seconds of Steve.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I don't hear him bitching. Yeah, I'll tell you with
Steve Kerr, here's what I want to and him say,
that's how you officiate. Don't tell us how to officiate. Yeah,
your coach, coach, you're a former player. I have a
lot of respect for Steve Kerr went in championships. I
disagree with a lot of his beliefs. Let's put it
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that way, but I can compartmentalize. I've known him for
a long long time, but I can tell you this is.
First of all, don't tell how to officiate. That's not
your job. If you want put a put a uniform
on and go ref Now, bitch and complain, get kicked out,
get technicals.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But don't tell me what refereeing is. Secondly, eighty feet
twenty feet five feet A fouls A foul now, I
understand the situation where he's talking about you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Let him wrestle and go.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
But if you're wrestling and then they see a full
on foul, listens Goolden State's been getting calls forever, so
friggin save it, thank you, Stop the bitching and save it.
You guys been milking calls and having them a tug
on your nuts officials for years. Draymond Green should have
been kicked out of four thousand games. He can kick
you in the balls and still play four minutes later.
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So save it, thank you. That team's been getting Hall
pass after freaking Hall pass. Now they're great, or they
were great. They've been getting Hall pass after Hall pass.
He's been given more leeway and leverage and all that
than anything. Steph Curry, listen you breathe on Steph Curry.
He was getting fouled. Dream they can do anything. So
I don't really want to hear in a semi final,
in a quarterfinal cup game, they're wrestling. You tell us
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how to officiate. Your team got beat eighty feet or
five feet if they think it's a foul, it's found.
A bitch and complain all you want, but I'll tell
you what you got about. We got about oh, seven
hundred and fifty more calls before before anybody's even in
your area code. When it comes to ref's kissing your ass. Okay,
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so save it.
Speaker 10 (07:48):
You.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
You have the most technical foul penalized a guy. And
you know how I respect Draymond Green game, but I
don't want to hear all of it because you guys
have manipulated the officials for a decade.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So save Walton into this.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Building and if it was your building, you'd come out
of the thing and we'd have been called for six
fouls right off the friggin bat. So save it. I'm
so tired of his bitching and winding. I tell you
this year and you know, oh god, it's changed up.
I knew Steve when he was playing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I respect him when he was a player, and honestly,
he's been a hell of a coach. He's got a
or he had a super talent, generational type team. But dude,
he's shut up already. And he was a good broadcaster,
good he's been good at everything he's done. But he
spends a lot of time overloading his mouth with his ass.
There is no doubt, so save it because if anybody,
for years, people have been waltson into your building at
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Golden State in Oakland and now in San Francisco, depending
on what stadium you're in, what side of the bridge,
and you've been getting calls, phantom calls and all that,
and they've been giving you leeway forever because you're the
fair haired guys. You're the You're you're the when you've
heard the the darling of the league, and then all
of a sudden you became the villain. So welcome to
the NBA when you're not as town as some other
teams are. Now, yeah, and your time, and you're a
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little older, a little long in the tooth.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Have you ever noticed that the older Steve kerb bitches,
I mean older he gets. The more he bitches, the more. Yeah,
and see you're supposed to get since you get older, Steve.
It's like just up now, Hey, welcome to the rest
of the world, buddy, Yeah, welcome to the rest of
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Say it. He lives out here.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Put a friggin muzzle fantasy land anyways, with other things
in life here.
Speaker 11 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah, you make a comment on politics when you're in
your post post game press conference, you might as well
because you do that all the time with the refs
and politics.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Just weave them both in so we can listen to
you wine and complain.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Again, just shut out, Thank you God, to shut up, man, dude.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He went on a literally a two minute rant. We
cut it off after a minute twenty because there were
still forty seconds off of him bitching about that call
last night.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
And you put it perfectly.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Draymond Green probably should have been kicked out of the
damn league by now with how many technical fouls and
all the bs that he gets away with, or should
have had his ass kicked. There's that too, That's the
first part. Kicked out of the league is one thing.
Taking an ass whoop and from somebody is another. But yeah,
shut the ups. You guess guess who doesn't get to
complain about the way the refs ref their game in
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this league? That guy.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, okay, so just take it. They've literally got Scott
Foster on the Golden State Warrior payroll plus plus. Listen,
you got as much chance to get to the NBA
Finals as me and you do.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Matter of fact, we could pop. If the Rockets ever go,
will at least be sitting there. He can come sit
next to us because his championship ring run in Golden
State is done.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Done.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Okay, it ain't happening.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Finished.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Rockets beat those Golden State Warriors last night ninety one
to ninety. I think it's the first time in four
years they had lost to the Warriors. Fifteenth straight times,
fifteenth straight times.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Phenomenal franchise. Steve's been a phenomenal coach. Like I said,
and I'm having a problem with people's opinion, but when
you're bitching about something that you've been getting every call,
and his method last night was and it's quite frankly,
fairly brilliant. Why no, why does it pissed? I know
in the emotion, but he wants it to carry through
the rest of the season where oh, we can't do
this to Golden State when everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Has been like, how do they get away with this?
How do they get away with this?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
You breathed on Steph Curry fowl Yep, you Draymond Green
can kick you in the balls and then you can
shive shove him with the shoulder and you're the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I mean so the truth is, you know how much
compassion I have for Golden State?
Speaker 12 (11:17):
None?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Zero.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I think it's hilarious that in that in that audio
that we played, he specifically says, oh, Steph, Steph gets
hit on the elbow on a twelve foot jumper.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Oh he did? Oh oh god listen.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Oh no, when Steph Curry plays golf and he's damn
good at it. When Steph Curry plays golf, they call
a foul, right, yeah, okay, the rest call a foul.
He's not even anywhere near a basketball court. So yeah,
you know what, just just save it, you know what, tyger.
He becomes Charlie Brown Want Want, while the school teacher.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Just white noise. Stop it.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah okay, and the method of your madness is done,
and I tell you what, You're gonna get more frustrated.
You know why, because you ain't winning another title, and
it's gonna get more frustrating and more frustrating and more frustrating.
And but you've got plenty of phantom calls go your
way forever. So hey, I don't want to hear it. Plus,
you know what, if you don't like it being close,
we're in a close game like that, they call a
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foul and give a guy free throws. Guess what that means?
Maybe you should extend your lead. Yeah, I'll just jump
into the fray of everybody else. Well, if you don't
like the overtime, ru'll get a stop. Okay, So well,
if you don't like foul, how about you get an
eight point lead, So two free throws don't matter at
the bat at the end of the game. Here's what
it comes down to at this stage of the At
this stage, guess who's better. The Rockets are a better
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team of Gold State. Yeah that's the way it is.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Old State's had for fifteen and won the last sixteen times.
Speaker 13 (12:33):
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well, guess what it this time? And in the quarterfinal
they go on to the semis and it's I tell
you what the other side. It's pretty fun to watch
man the Rockets I'm talking about Yeah, but I actually,
I actually kind of it kind of gets me excited
when I hear Steve Kirk complain about this. I'm not
damn think he can do about last night. I'll get
on a plane and go home. I woke up early
this morning. I saw the I saw that was like
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the first thing I saw was that the Rockets won.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But then I see Steve Kirk complaining. I was like,
you have got to be kidding me. What is this
dude bitching and morning complaining about I was like, did
something happened in politics that he's upset about and he
wants to weave that into his post game? Or is
he actually is he actually complaining about the officials? And
sure enough, he's actually complaining about the officials. It's rich man,
It's rich Oh God, just shut up. Steve Kerr Alprin
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shin gun in that game twenty six points, eleven rebounds,
Jabari Smith fifteen points, and Sean mentioned as we got
as we started the show this morning. Jalen Green only
twelve points, but he hit some clutch free throws down
the stretch off the bench. Aman Thompson with ten points
and five rebounds. Tary easton nine points and seven rebounds
of Rockets win ninety one ninety over Golden State. They
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are headed to these semifinals in the NBA Cup. They're
gonna be playing Oklahoma City in Vegas. So good for
the Rockets. They improved to seventeen and eight. We got
a lot, a lot to get to this morning here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. We've got to talk about
Kyle Tucker Alex Bregman. The hot stove with those two
players is steaming hot from yesterday at the Winter Meetings.
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We've also got to talk about the Texans as they
get ready to play the Miami Dolphins are gonna be
without one of their offensive linemen. What does that mean?
Of course, they're still without disease al shi.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Here.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We've also got to talk about some college football. Bill
Belichick now the head coach of the North at North Carolina.
So let's dig into it. Let's talk Kyle Tucker next
right here on seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Let's go, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
That's a chick.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Dude looks like a lady though.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
What is the Sarosmith? Steve Tyler.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Guys, now that sounded like a female at the end there, right, yes, yeah,
so what well that was that was not? That means
that's a compliment because when you can get that high
as a dude or it kind of you know, the
kind of roll into each other, you're not sure if
it's a guy or a gall that means you're getting
that high. Note what you need in that.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Cut, you know that song I Ain't Missing You at
All by John Waite.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I Missing You at All?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
People think they think that it was a chick at
first because of the way that it sounds.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Was it Johnny Waite?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Johnny Waite?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
W A I t e now that he confused with
Johnny be Good or John Barry or yeah, or John Mayer.
You're a big Mary guy, you yeah, you love those crooners. No,
set up there like that, sit there and make love
to the mic and then.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But yeah, but any dating a dude, You're right, we
went over this John Mary dating might be.
Speaker 14 (15:27):
Right.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Hey, yeah, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Man. Michael is Michael Bubble married Michael Boublay. Yeah, let's
check it out. Tell the tape. Tell so what did
you say about saying all the time. He said, Oh,
John Merriican poll, John Merriican Poll. Oh, man, he's got
a his what do you call it his hit list
or what do you call it? What what do you
call his roster, John Maya or his roster's deep? Yeah,
he could. He pulls with all these guys that are
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named Frank and Mike and Andy Andy. Yeah, I mean
that there's anything wrong with it because I am Michael
boublay Is is married to.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
This.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm gonna butcher the hell out of this. Uh Louis
Sana Lope Lutos. I don't know you met her in Brazil?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Nice South America. Huh yeah, yeah, I mean see you
you're it doesn't matter if you boy as you know,
I could pull a guy. We know that you pointed
that out plenty of time, triply.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Who was it?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Somebody?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I'm not gonna what was yesterday or day before? I said, Man,
I said this dude with one hundred percent make I
was sewn.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh you did?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeh, don't don't call. I don't remember who it was,
but you remember what I'm talking about. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't know. There's somebody that was just ball washing the
hell out of you, And I was like this, dude,
what make was Sewan? I could pull a dude, Sean,
you could. You could say, you could give us the
lamest joke and he would be in the background.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Sean, Yes, yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So here you like the crooners here there that kind
of guy.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You said that you wish you were Andy Cohen.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
No, yeah, well I'm excited about Mary.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
What do you What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You just wanted to be around Mayor? You wanted to
sing to you? Look at your eyes like he sometimes.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
You don't have to be.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
You know how he sings that waiting none the well.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, what way?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
No, well yeah, maybe a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
I don't know. Yeah, I think Mike likes John Mayer.
Mike likes John Mayor.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I think Mike thinks John Mayor is overrated.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Let's ask Mike.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
There you go, We'll take a quick call seven seven Mike,
Are you a John Mayer fan?
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Absolutely not, Thank you and.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Good night, bingo. Just like I said, with you what you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Got this morning?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Mike.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Well, I'm a little like this conversation, but I'm sorrious.
Heck about hearing about miss Carroll. I really enjoyed listening
to her talk or her talking the assos in textious
and I think a bunch of us are going to
miss her. I just you know, I just love to
listen to her talk about the astros.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Us US three US three included on this show.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
We love her. And yeah, it's a it's a gut
wrenching to hear the news, No doubt.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
It is because I would have led to be able
to sit with her one day just talk baseball because
she knew her stuff. And there's no doubt about it. Uh,
you guys are about to start the conversation about mister Tucker,
and I think I heard you guys talk last week.
You know, we lost we lost Horrea, we lost Springer
and got nothing in return. Do you think there's a
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possibility that they assuming they cannot keep Bregman? Because for me,
I've said this before to you you guys, I think
Tucker is more of a priority than Breakman, especially as
I love Bregman. I think that's just the I think
that's the honest true. Is it a matter of affordability
with Tecker?
Speaker 15 (18:50):
Do you think yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
After the season, Yeah, Mike, I mean he's going to
command like three hundred and fifty million dollars four hundred
million dollars. And if you look at what Jim Green
had done over these last seven eight nine years, the
biggest contract he's ever given out to a player was
to Jose Altuve for one hundred and fifty one million dollars.
So they're not even gonna come close to being able
to afford Alex. Actually, they're probably not gona be able
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to afford to Alex Bregman or Kyle Tucker, or they
can afford it, they're just not gonna do it.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I should say, yeah, Mike, think about this. If you're
not gonna pay Bregman right and he leaves, if you're
not going to get to two hundred mil or whatever
it is that he he legitimately wants, how are you
gonna come around and pay one hundred million more next year?
If Tucker has a good season and pay and so
you've already lost. You know, you're getting like a fourth
or fifth round pick, a compensatory pick for Bregman if
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he leaves, and so Tucker comes on the same things,
So you got to get a haul, right if you
know you're not going to pay him. Now, you've got
to go get players for him, right, top prospects and
maybe a couple of MLB ready players. You just as
much as I love him, I think he's the best
all around player on the team. You just can't be
left hanging because if your business model says we don't
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pay seven eight, ten years, three hundred, three hundred and
fifty million, why in the world would you wait?
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I was, You're right, and I agree with the sixth
person it says it just be heartbreaking for the city
to use and eluse both those guys, considering what they've
done for this organization.
Speaker 12 (20:15):
But I get it.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
It's a business too. It can be harsh sometimes, but
I guess it is what it is. Gentlemen, I appreciate
your time.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well sir, thank you my great point, and thank you
for the call. It's just listen, it's hard to take
emotion out for guys that have either impacted you, impacted
a team, a city. You know it is.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's hard to take it out.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
But in truth, business and it's easy to say it's
such a cliche, Well it's it's business, but it is,
and it's business for the player too, And it's business
for the management. It's business for business, for ownership. You
just if you're not going to do it, why belabor
the point. Yeah, and even though he's coming off an injury,
Kyle Tucker is held in regard, high regard across this league.
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People love it.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Yesterday, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It was insane to read how many rival fan bases want.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Him on their team.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Why and why would oh my gosh, well why wouldn't
There were there was I forgot who it was. A
baseball writer maybe it was a former player made this
thread about how he's an overall better player than Jan
Sodo he is, and how he's going to command like
four hundred million dollars mean Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yes, I mean I would have if he has a
great end that we said it here, If he has
an MVP year this year, no matter where he is,
when his contract, when it's time to upgrade the contract,
it'll be north of three fifty.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Crazy and Nashals aren't even come close to being able
to do that.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
And when we say that he well, he's not betteran soda.
Soda is making seven hundred sixty five men. We didn't
say he's better hitter, right, but he's a damn good hitter.
Didn't say he was, you know, had more power. But
when you talk put it this way, the difference between
Sodo and tuckers hitters is far closer than the difference
between Tucker and Sodo is right fielders. Yeah, and running
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vantage Tucker. The basis, there's no question arm strength. One's
got two and a half tools, the others got five five. Yeah,
and if Tucker ever gets in it gets rolling and
does it and then with a short porch and right
for that, he's a forty home run if you really
turned him loose and you wanted to, you too, you
don't think he can steal forty bases in see, I
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think he's a forty forty guy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I mean you, if you think about it, he stole
twenty nine the other I think twenty nine or thirty
the other year. Yeah, so about two years ago because
he was hurting majority last year.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah. My thing is, I think he's a legit forty
forty guy because in a couple of the ballparks that
are entertaining him, that that a pop fly ray, there's
there's there's a dozen extra home runs a year for him. Yeah,
So and you know it just the guy and he
other than last year, the durability has been there.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
He plays most of the time.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
So and you know what, Yankee fans won't hate the
astros of all of a sudden, Bregman ends up there
or Tucker ends up there. I mean, it doesn't matter
who it is. You could have You could have came
in last year. Hey you when he wasn't here for seventeen,
and they'd still they're still boosts. Oh you cheated, Well no,
I wasn't here in seventeen, was in college.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right, but they will.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
But watch how quickly you forgive when he's in your
pinstripes right or he's in your red Sox right form
he's a Dodger. Oh well, Mookie Betts is a hero
in Los Angeles. Yeah, the hero and right, I get it. So, yeah,
I Kyle Tucker right now if he didn't play next
year and decide, you know, like they sitting out a
Bowl game, right, if Kyle Tucker didn't play, he's getting.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Three hundred million. Yeah that's the floor number.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yes, so and they're not gonna pay that here, right,
So you want to get held high and dry and
get a fourth round compensatory pick, you want to go
get some players that can maybe in twenty twenty six,
all of a sudden, twenty twenty seven, you're looking right
back at a team who's in contention or everybody's talking
about him as a World.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Series team again.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, there you go, and they got still have a
fine nucleus right now. Two Ve is not chopped. Liver No,
and Jordan's pretty good. But to my knowledge, yeah, not bad.
So there's there's still a lot to build on there.
There's teams would kill for three or four of these players.
This team has right.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
King Tuck playing right field for the New York.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
It will hurt people. But I'm gonna tell you what
he with pinstripes. He's he's the vertical pit stripe. He's
gonna look like he's about six eight. Well, no either way,
like because the Cubs are Phillies. Also, I mean there's
stripes you go to. Oh yeah, crazy man, I mean,
does Boston wanting Probably they just went out and got
Garrett Crochet. They sure did a nice upgrade for them.
(24:32):
Oh yeah, Now if you were able to pull off
because they were in the Soto hunt, yes, did you
imagine well I can imagine it.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, you know, if.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
You for all, if we're gonna lose Tucker and and
uh Pregnant, they may as well just go to Fedya,
both of them.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Just get him.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Yeah, they get him there. Yeah, they call that minimate
Park of the Norse.
Speaker 14 (24:50):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
People here don't dislike much, more like the Yankees and
the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, Boston's is kind of you know, what do you mean, Well,
they're not mid, I mean kinda. They have been mid
the Great Bullpark though, And plus that cactus flagging.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Oh there, dude, Oh yeah, the cactus flag and go
in there and say that, and they'll run you right
out of Boston. Brother, it'll be a wicked pissing Get
that bum out of here.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Let's get the break. Continue to talk about Kyle Tucker.
There's a team in the u NL that is in
heavy pursuit of Kyle Tucker, already putting the package together
for the Astros.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Who is it? That's next?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Coming out from the Winter meetings, a lot of uh
talk about Kyle Tucker being traded, Alex Pregnant signing with
another team. Let's go back out to the phone line
seven one three seven iety, Steve, you're up first, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Good morning guys today all can you guys hear me?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yes, sir, we got you.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Okay, Yeah, you know I'm a I'm not an Astro homer.
I mean I love the Astros. They for the last
seven eight years. I mean, it's been an unbelievable run.
But if if you're a businessman, just a pure businessman,
which I think Crane is, what you need to do
right now is cut your losses and get as much
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as you possibly can, and I mean as much as
you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Don't don't be a be a homer.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
And you know, because he's a nice guy, because I think,
if I'm not mistaken about two years ago, didn't he
have to go into arbitration?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Uh to get to get a raise? Is that if
I'm not thinking about it.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
No, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah he did, and uh he was pretty upset with
the with the outcome.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Didn't happen twice back to back here, Carol.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
The Yeah, it went back to back.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
The second year was where he didn't get the money
that he asked for and actually the money that he
actually deserves.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
So it upset pissed him off. To be honest with you.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
Yeah, so I think that's probably gonna be uh, maybe
not that I think it's going to be a factor,
because you know, he's got a little bit of a
thorn in his butt because of that. But I think
to be to do is just get as much as
we possibly can now.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Don't wait.
Speaker 10 (27:03):
Don't go into the season going Okay, well if we
pieced me list together and let's see where we're at
mid season, if we're you know, in the playoffs. I
think my only observation is just get what we can
right now and let's build for the future.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And you guys have happy holidays.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Talk to La you as well, Steve, thank you, and
s talk to Billy. Merry Christmas, Steve, Billy, good morning.
Speaker 16 (27:25):
Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Uh.
Speaker 16 (27:27):
The idea that Crane is sticking to a business plan,
I think is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Incorrect.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We'll go with that word.
Speaker 16 (27:37):
Because yeah, he may be speaking to sticking to it
on the financial side, but he hasn't stayed with the
plan that was originally laid, the foundation that was laid
for this franchise with Luno on the analytics and making
sure that the player has met a certain criteria within
the analytics Jeff Bagwell can't spell hard hit percentage, and
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he's listening to people that are on the wrong side
of this. Baseball is an analytically driven game, and Dana
brown is he leans that direction a lot more than
Bagwa does. Of course, so Crane might be staying with
his plan on the financial side, I'm not going to
pay more than such and such. But he's not building
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his organization the way that they started. And that's a problem.
And you can see the difference because we're not getting
the players that we once got in the draft and
in free agents and other things like that, because we're
not looking at the analytics, we're looking.
Speaker 17 (28:33):
At something else.
Speaker 16 (28:34):
I have north the idea how Jeff Bagwood judges players,
but he's the one they're listening to. To me, that change,
he's changed.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
His business approach.
Speaker 17 (28:43):
So can you tell me why?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
That answer would be no.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I'd love to sit here and we could beat around
to and Billy, thank you, beat around a bush and say, well,
I know why he changed his business model. His business model,
the things that have held true are long contracts and
huge money. Now I guess it's relative huge money twenty
five millions, huge three hundred millions huge two hundred and
fifty al twove money is huge in the baseball terms. Well,
(29:10):
why guys leave? How's that he's an he's sad success.
I don't know how Jim Crane would respond. Let me
ask this and tune with what Billy's saying. What if
this team had been close, has never won a World Series?
Still by doing by by going about this plan, get close?
But you let Pray go and Springer and now Bregman
and you trade because you don't want to pay. You
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get to a certain point, there's your threshold, and you
say he's been successful. But let's just say those world
Series rings warntchers. Would he still live by this business
model or would he have to? Hey, he can't beat him.
You got to join him to join him. I think that.
So I do think success breeds. Now what comes first?
The chicken of the ed egg?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Here's my plan? Now I'm going to go work my plan,
or we want a championship? Now that means that's the
plan I'm going to keep in place. The one thing
I do know, and when it comes to a lot
of different stuff, is the ability to adapt and adjust
with market value and all that.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You have to normally to keep up.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I think they've been extremely fortunate that they haven't had
to overpay and still be successful, because that goes back
to just how good they are developing players. They've been
well managed by you know, the last three guys here
managed well and in truth, whether you like them or not,
the three different gms you've had in this run have
all had success that they really have. Maybe not one
in the world sties, but they've all had success. So
(30:35):
with that, I wish I could explain to you why
you know why you know billionaires or certain people what
drum they beat to. I have a lot of respect
for Jim Crane, and I just asked, what would I do?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What would you do?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
What would Billy do? If you're in this situation? Are
you willing to pay Kyle Tucker three hundred and seventy
five million? Are we still talking about it just right now?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Either way?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Now? Well, now we have the world sees I'm talking
about now real time reality, they warn world cities.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Are you wanting to pay him?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
They're not. I have a hunch that Jim Crane's philosophy
is we're so good at how we go about this
that and I don't mean this against Kyle Tucker, and
I'm not I don't want to speak for Jim Crane,
but I'm just from my observation that we'll find another guy.
I trust the people in my organization that we're going
to develop another guy that can play right field. I
know that sounds so simplicit, Well what else could it be.
(31:32):
There's no salary camp you can pay him. Jim Crane's
going to be a billionaire till you know. This franchise
is worth what now, three billion dollars? So they listen
at this stage, is it really about money for Jim Crane?
What he's putting in his wallet? He's got plenty of it.
Elly owns half of West Palm Beach, doesn't any mean
and he's worked at all. This is killing it and
(31:53):
we'll continue to write the truth is based is fun
part of it, and he loves it. I didn't say
how the hobby makes those kind of cat I'm sure
it gets a lot of joy out of this. But
he's been one of those guys that's taking his other
businesses in this and kind of applied them together, meaning
here's how I do business, and here's how I'm going
to continue to do business and it's worked, Why would
you argue with success Now? The question is when it
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doesn't start to work again? Because it was easy when
you were a sixty win team, right, because there was
only one way to go up right. Yeah, Now that
you've won the you know the psych detections, they go
from three to ten wins. Now our expectations are you
better get twelve wins or you haven't done it. So
now it's no longer just gets the players. Listen, this
team made to the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They were a.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Home series, two games away from being in the World Series,
and we're looking at them as a disappointment. Crazy but true.
That's the standard now they're held to. So if you're
Jim Crane, your question is are you willing to go
through a downturn It won't be sixty wins, but a
downturn or you're not a dominant team If you do,
they let this happen and then get back into it,
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and will you come back with the same business model
that got you to the World Series in the first place.
So it's a credit Jim Crane. It's a credit to
basically telling his organization we develop players and I trust
you're going to continue to do it. But in truth,
when people say, oh, they bought a championship, yeah they did.
But on that ring that the Dodgers have guests, what
they're not going to say bought this championship. It's never
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going to say that thirty years from now. It's just
going to be that great player. So I love a
lot of what Jim Crane does. Hey listen for selfish,
pretty an emotional. We all want great I want to
bullhog all the great players. But the reality of it
is is that you can't. But yet the reality for
the Dodgers, the Mets, and the Yankees is they think
you can.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Well, if you don't care about the luxury tax and
you're a billionaire and you don't care about let it rip, dude,
let it rip. So Billy I can't answer why he
goes about it this way, But my number one answer
is it's worked.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
It's worked, yeah, and that's the only way I.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Can figure it out. But I would be willing to
bet anything Kyle Tucker and Alex Bregman. I would, or
I'd put the mortgage on both of them.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Will not.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I said it early in the week I don't believe
either one are going to be here in the spring.
And I get it. Bregman seems like he is, Gosh,
it should be a little easier because it's one hundred
dollars one hundred million dollars less a minimum of what
Tucker's going to get.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
But I just I'm just going by.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Unless there's one hundred and eighty degrees shift in the
in the with the in the moon right over my hamming, yeah,
then I can't imagine that that this is going to
change Jim Cran's at the at the time in his career,
I would imagine that. I don't want to stay stuck
in your ways, but this is how you do business. Yeah,
and it's worked. And how do you argue with that?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You can't because it's Workings.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Can get all the emotional, But the truth of the
matter is what happens now somebody comes in his three
ten at third base and becomes an All Star.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
If Breg believes all as it does is validate his decision.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Now, if they go and win seventy games and they
are getting air ask kicked, that's probably when we can
start the bitch fest.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, yeah, I would think so. But until then. What
he's been doing has been working.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Would you change in any business you're doing if your
sales staff's kicking ass and shee you got to adapt
and say, okay, we expect more. Yeah, but are you
going to change your model if you're winning?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
No, If the model is winning and being successful, the
only thing that you're changing is like your goals, your forecast.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
If you've made a hundred money last year, you're gonna
make you want to make one hundred and fifty hundred
and fifty right? See Now the real test is now
sixty wins, buy it, bring them in, change it around.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
Win.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Now if you start to fall a little bit, you're
not a sixty. Now, how quickly do you want to
get back to one hundred?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Win?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Team?
Speaker 15 (35:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
We'll see seven one three, two, one two five, seven
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and the Houston Astros. Of course, the winter meetings coming
to a close today. What reports will come out we
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Speaker 6 (37:10):
Is that was that a store on the mall?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Hit your Google machine ch Chess c h E S
King right now. You get people out there, they're saying,
oh hell no, oh yeah, chess King. That's that was
in your local mall right by Do you remember Chess
King department store?
Speaker 18 (37:25):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
That was your pre Abercrombie this out. Oh yeah, dude,
when I had a mullet, my stuff was so tight
in Chess King.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Due this looks sick. Yeah, I was pulling too. Had
the neon lights up above.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Oh yeah, chess King.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
So this was like a like a like the happening
spot like oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah that we might have like a little vest on
and you chess King down it was like, man, I
could pull in this outfit, right, man, Remember you know
you feel me? You kind of feel me. You wanted
to come back and style.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
We'll see. But then I see what these dudes got
from Chess King, and it's.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying, that's the skiddy tie.
Oh yeah, if you went to Chess King you were righteous?
You sure well depends on who you are walking in
the door. You know what I'm saying. I mean you
walk in there, it's like, look like these dudes are
smoking left cigarettes. I'm Briano, right, you know what you
left handed cigarette?
Speaker 11 (38:18):
I have?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
What's that matter? I'm just saying, man, there's a certain look.
But how about the chess gig though? Is there a
classic that's exactly like the Datta Summer Days when she's
sick in our disco?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
There you go, damn man, the first one opening the
Dedham Mall in Denham, Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I guarantee there's people are saying, oh, Man, Shaw, did
you just bring back that old memory of the Chess
King Check that out, man, which was right next door
in the mall to Orange Julius.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
I remember Orange Julius.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Checked, that's freaking sweet man seven one three five seven
ninety Damian, what's happening?
Speaker 11 (38:51):
All right? What's up? Wary? I got the I walked
the way in on this business motto, side with with
with the way right and and like you say, I mean,
so far, so far has worked. But there's this old
saying that you know, same thing that make your smile
to make it fry? How how how how sure are
(39:15):
we that? How comforted are we that this business model
that's been working for Crane? How how much of that
in the past, those rings? How how much of that
is on Jeff Luno? And and not uh particularly Crane's motto?
Maybe because you think we benefited more from the management
the managing of Jeff Luno and the staff that he
(39:38):
had when he was here. And and and also I
wanted to ask you, I feel like we I feel
like we're lucky to even have our too by here
still making the money he's made our two as going
to go down as one of the greatest ever played
the game. And we we we got him on the
bargain there. I mean that our two making easily be
(40:00):
making three hundred million dollars or more. And another place,
and last, thank Saran with this motto that he has
in place well as astro fans, will we ever be
able to see a guy retire here once they reach
greatness or will this sad motto drive them all the
way when it's time from to get money, when it's
(40:20):
time from to get paid? And I hang up and
listen to you.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Damn what a phenomenal three points. One, Let me work
from last to first. The answer under this business model,
if you become a high paid, proper age star, meaning
you have your best when you're in the prime of
year career with plenty of years left. The answer to
that under this business model, to get the money that
(40:43):
the top ten stars would make if you're one of them,
the answer is no, not under this business model. Two
is you're right about hose Al TV. But that also
validates Jim Crane, which is going to lead me to
your first point here in a second validates Jim Crane's
ability to take a guy who has had to almost
beg his way into a base right literally almost, and
you know, undersize what's he going to do and his
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car and has turned himself with help and teaching and
just a great hand eye coordination skill set, into a
Hall of Fame player and one of the best ever
to plays position. One of the most beloved players. Forget
the twenty seventeen stuff. He's one of the most beloved
players on the planet. Yeah, and in Houston.
Speaker 14 (41:20):
It is.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
The truth of the matter is if you take twenty
seventeen out of it, there's not a soul alive out
there in baseball world who doesn't love al Jose al Tuove.
How can you not? But it validates what this team
has been, what you developed great players. Yeah, and Jose's
a perfect example of that. But you also when we
say developed players, listen you he ain't doing what Bregman's
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doing is a first pick, you know, as a first
round pick. If you're also not the guy didn't have
skill set, you got Altuve has got a phenomenal skill set.
It just somebody had to look. Take somebody to look
through the height and the physical stature. Well, here he
is and a bat that almost looks like it's taller
than he is when he swings it.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Real quick.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Is the answer about can this business model continue to
six or or Jeff Luna or Jim Crane and the
answers while owners do it and he's got a business model.
It was a perfect storm for at that point in time,
maybe the best GM in baseball.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
And if he wasn't first, he one third and an
owner who bought, who believed in him, who let him
do his thing as like Jim and stayed out of it.
And that's fine. The business model is, we say, the
business model, and it was covered up when I say
covered up by a great gym that got the right
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people in place to develop farm system all of it
and got the right mix. The answer is absolutely the
business model takes a back seat to what the GM
did here because the GM's approach couldn't win a lot
of games still anywhere in baseball. This approach will get
you close. But if you keep losing star players the
(42:57):
thing this is not even Jim crom talking about anybody.
You cannot sustain greatness, even the teams who have kept
some of those stars. So the answer is no, a
top ten player here will not get paid here. He
won't go fifteen years here anymore. And if al Towo
Bay was twenty four to twenty five and didn't get it,
he wouldn't be here either. No, it's just the way
(43:18):
it is.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yeah, I think there's I think there's a little more
to add to that when it comes to the GM stuff,
because what we've seen over the last couple of years
is we've seen Jeff Luno, We've seen James Click, and
now we've seen Dana Brown. And there's also some bad
contracts that happened when we didn't have a GM or
the Astros didn't have a GM. Let's dig into that
a little bit because it affects where it is now.
That's next to Sports Talk seven to.
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good morning.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Hey guys, good morning.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
There's three quick points I want to make.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
Uh.
Speaker 19 (44:45):
One is Brian you just touched on when we went
to break. You know, we got some bad contracts that
are lingery. We still got to pay a Bray. I
think we're on the hook for what thirty nine million
or something for.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Him, Yeah, somewhere around there, got it.
Speaker 19 (44:57):
Yeah, And then we got a couple of pitchers that
that had big con tracks that happened in Montero.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yep, Montero. Yeah.
Speaker 19 (45:05):
And uh, you know the other thing is is the
model that everybody's been talking about and I've been preaching
that we need to greet, we need to stick to it.
But you know, you look at some of the other teams,
they're following that model. That's been the that's been what's
behind Baltimore's success. We've been getting some of our front
office people plucked away. And the reason that is people
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want to do what we're doing. They see that that's working.
Speaker 15 (45:29):
And then uh.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Uh you know, finally, I just want to say that.
Speaker 19 (45:35):
When you look at what's got us into the playoffs
the last two years. You know, we we were without
a lot of our so called you know, best players,
you know, superstars and stuff, and it was the young players.
I would say ninety percent of it was our young
players that were called up and filled the role and
they're the ones that kept us in the hunt.
Speaker 14 (45:56):
And that's what got us.
Speaker 19 (45:57):
Into the playoffs the last two years, especially last year.
And uh, you know two years ago when we were
you know it was a year after yeah, that we
won the World Series. We were decimated by that World Series,
the International World Series that everybody was playing and you
know too, it was out and stuff. But it was
the young players the last couple of years that have
kept us in the hunt and have done the job
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for us. And as the season goes on, it's really
a matter of just putting in the right pieces each
game day. And uh, Espata I think has been great
at doing that actually, but uh so I would just say, again,
we've got to go young, We've got to uh get
the right pieces. If we can get a haul for Tucker,
I'd say pull the trigger without even thinking twice.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
So uh, yeah, John, that's exactly what they're going to do.
Speaker 19 (46:45):
Yeah, I think and I think that's the right plan.
I think that's the right plan. I hope they do
it because we can't get in this. You know, it
just doesn't it just really doesn't work. I'm convinced if
we would have gotten the World Series against the Dodgers,
we would have won. I really do.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I think we're so in their head.
Speaker 19 (47:02):
I think we would have won it, but we didn't
make it past the uh.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
You know, the first round.
Speaker 19 (47:08):
But uh, but anyways, I think that, uh, we've got
to return to that model because that model works, and
other other teams see it and they're adopting it too.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
So arrest my case on that.
Speaker 6 (47:19):
Appreciate it, John, Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You know, Sean.
Speaker 6 (47:23):
One thing that that.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Comes to mind when we talk about Jeff Luno and
what he built here and the trust, uh that Jim
Crane had in him. Obviously, Jeff Luno was let go
fired because of the cheating scandal, and then James Click
came in. And I think James Click did a really
good job while he was here. They won a World
Series while he was the general manager. He made very
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meticulous moves. He didn't make the big splash, but he
made very meticulous moves. He got yinr Diz, he got
Phil Aton, who have been really integral parts of the
success of the Astros. And then James Click was fired
and there was a period of time where there was
not a general manager here, and Jeff Bagwell had some
say in some of these decisions. He was out in
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front of the media talking about all these different players,
talking about moves and assumingly acting like he was the
general manager. And there's an article back when James Click
was let go, Jeff Bagwell takes a shot at the
ex Astros GM and says game is played by humans,
not computers. So we talked about this business model, right,
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We talked about the analytics. We talk about what Jeff
Luno did. James Click was also an analytical guy, and
the success continued continued. Once this happen, things kind of
went a different direction and we've seen the effects of it.
Speaker 6 (48:47):
Not Brian A.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
Brady, but bad Jose Brew contract atrocious, Rafael Montero way overpaid,
he was sent down a triple A last year and
then eventually Dfaight, if I'm not mistaken or was that
somebody Either way, two really bad contracts when they didn't
have a GM and Jeff Bagwell was right there for those.
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That's where I think some of this effect of where
we are right now with this Astionals organization started when
they fired James Klick.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Here's what the irony is of it. The business model
has been for this franchise to be heavy analytics. Yeah,
and Jeff Bagwell's zero analytics analytics and he has a voice, right,
that's the strong voice. That's the weirdest thing. I'll tell
you what. As being older than you and having been
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in this business a long time and traveled to a
lot of cities and lived there, I cannot remember a
time and maybe I'm missing the boat on this did
in a hometown A guy.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
Yeah, Rafael Montero was defit. Sorry, I know you said that.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a guy who these people would have
crawled ten miles over broken glass for when he was
a player. That his It's so weird because it's almost
people here don't talk about Bagwell the player anymore. No,
they're more they're they're more butt hurt over the front
office bag Well than they were happy about Bagwell the
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great player.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (50:14):
Absolutely, it's all.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
It's almost tarnished his legacy here, not almost it has.
It's not fair you got to compartmentalize because he's a
great player. I just tell you from what I hear,
because while I watched Bagwell his whole career, I wasn't
here his whole career. I got here post Bagwell career.
But it is incredible the way that people feel about
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Bagwell because of his front office blunders. Yeah, and it's
broadcasting no, no, no offense.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
He's not good at.
Speaker 11 (50:46):
That.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Being said, that being said, the ironic thing is very
few times would you give a guy a voice on
player personnel decisions that doesn't think. Now, I don't think
if you're one hundred percent analytics, I ain't in if
you're one hundred percent feel analytics are evidence. I've said
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it before, that's exactly what it is. You've got to
be able to manage and could play and be able
to mix and mingle both. But it is so weird
how a guy in the front office has that much
power or that much voice, and it goes completely against
the business model they've built when it comes to the analytics.
When they had their most success, it's a trip to me.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Well, I'm a lifelong Houston guy. The only time that
I went away from Houston is when I went out
to Alpine to play baseball in college. I was a
massive Asteros fan growing up. Dad used to take me
to games in the Astronome. Then we would go to
Minima Park, or when we go to enron then it
was Mini Ma Park. It was all about the killer
Bees here. Like me and all my buddies, we were
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killer Bee fans. Craig Bigio, Derek Bell, Jeff Bagwell, Be's
nuts exactly, Be's nuts. Sean Berry played third base, Lance
Burn came around like the killer Bees is what we
were built on, like what we were, what we were
raised on. Jeff Bagwell, I idolized him as a player.
You did the stance. Everyone tried to mimic his stance.
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You talk about Legacy and Billy Wagner, Who I mean
Billy Wacker. Yeah, killer Bees, I see you doing there
like that.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
That was what we did for me. Now, dude, like
I can't. I can't stand him because of what he's
doing in the front office, which is kind of a bummer.
It is because I'm telling you your thoughts about it, Yes,
and I've I've I.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Think for me, and I'm gonna pay myself on the back.
I think I do a really good job of compartmentalizing
my fandom for the Astros and what we do for
a living.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
I'm not a homer. I'm gonna tell it like it
is when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
To me, if you don't, you lose credibility. You do
lose credit. Billy, I'm one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 5 (52:45):
And if people can't handle that, then we're not We're
not for them.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
But when you see this quote and it's this is
the full quote quote, personally, for me, I just think
there are certain things that go on that numbers can't
explain because this game is played by humans.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
Man, it's not played by computers.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
End quote.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
That was the same day that they parted ways with
James Clicks. So that shows me that you've got a
guy that's got a heavy voice in the front office
and heavy voice with the owner saying hmm, maybe we should.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Stray away from what's been interest in analytics. None, come on,
man has been working and hearing it from you when
we come back and talk about it during the steakhout,
is that that how you feel about him feels like
the buzz about how most people do.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Now, you're right, people don't talk about his career anymore,
which is weird.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
Because I still think it back well as wide stance,
first basement, great glove, great base runner, home run and everything,
could do it all. And yet here now he's looked
at it as in front and that's and that's probably comparted.
That's fair, but I try not to cross both over
because listen, there's things he does that now in this
profession that he's just not good at right as a player,
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phenomenal at I'm sure Boston regrets. Yeah, there's no doubt so,
But with that your emotion, I feel I think that that.
I think that's a majority of people, and it's seventy
five percent of the people who are baseball fans in
this town. I think it because I come into town.
But get I was like, damn, it was about him.
When his name comes up, it so off get him out.
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But it's just crazy to me how you would give
It'd be like giving an option quarterback, I mean an
option guy, a voice on a team that doesn't run
the option option right, It's like and when he says
it's played by humans, I'm with because I've always leaned
towards feel. I mean, that's for sure, But I also
know how to make an adjustment. And I played in
a field age that the analytics were evidence of. Here's
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the game plan, here's what they do in coverage in
third and seven eighty percent of the time, right, And
that's the same thing, it's just worded different. Been doing
it for years. We just now are heavy on them.
We're hiring twenty five year olds from Yale to crunch
numbers their accountants that are really smart and they give
you a different perspective like in Moneyball all that stuff. Well,
we're here now, and it just you got to do both.
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But I am how you would give a loud voice
to somebody and what he says is played by humans?
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, played by humans. But if that human.
Speaker 5 (55:08):
If I know that human throws eighty percent fastballs on
first pitch, uh, opening an inning, I ain't sitting curveball exactly.
So I am a human, but damn I want the
computer to tell me what this guy leans. Because tendencies
are rabid in pro sports. You do what you feel
your best at.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yeah, seven seven nineties number Drulet's get to the stake
out next right here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
How back to the Sean Salisbury Show. All right, Sean,
what are you hearing out there now? The Salsbury's takeout,
Salisbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
Time for the steak out here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
Sean Brown at Tripoli seven one three two seve nineties
A number two. We're going to extend the steakout because
we only got a couple of minutes this segment. So tripley,
let's extend the steak out for next segment.
Speaker 5 (56:10):
Does he have to play the sound again to come
into it next segment?
Speaker 2 (56:14):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (56:15):
You make the executive say, absolutely not. No, we're not
doing it.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
We can do a steak out.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
We don't have to.
Speaker 19 (56:20):
Do it.
Speaker 5 (56:21):
You come in with a little little disco next. Okay,
we don't have to do it twice in robo. We
can extend the steak out as long as you'd like.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
All right, for next three and a half hours, let's
do it all right, two and a half hours or whatever?
That yeah, two and a half right about at math
yeah two and a half start to rob?
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Was that Rob?
Speaker 8 (56:38):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (56:39):
Good morning guys, I just wanted to chime in.
Speaker 20 (56:41):
You guys are making a lot of great points, and
I was actually thinking about it yesterday listening to They'll
show you know this, this whole thing. The more you
think about it, it comes down as a catastrophic front
office failure. Uh, Brian, to your point what you've been
saying this morning, as far as Bagwell, just completely throwing
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everything out the window that we've done the last few years.
And Sean to your point yesterday you were kept saying,
you know, if we if we lose Bregman, then we
pretty much you can't keep Tucker because now you've got
too many spots to fill and he's your biggest trade shif. Essentially,
the last couple of years, they've they've refused to pay Tucker,
to give him one of these shorter term contracts that
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they were known for with guys like Al Tuvey, Springer Correa,
the short term five to six year deals where they're
keeping him under that two hundred million lot, and with Tucker,
for whatever reason, they refused to get it done. And
it was the oversight on the front office to not
see the fact, Look, if we don't give him what
he wants and give him what he's worth. We're losing
Bregman next year and we're not going to be able
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to keep him under two hundred million, and then Tucker's
up after that and we don't have anything left in
the farm system. They they had sight of that, they
just completely overlooked it last year and uh spring training
when they were in negotiations with Tucker, and had they
properly looked at that analysis. And again, you know, Brian,
what you keep saying with Bagwell, in that front office,
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I think there was a lot of oversight in him
completely or a lack of oversight, I should say, and
him completely redoing their business plan. That's ultimately what led
us here today. And they've got nobody but that front
office to blame for it.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Guys. That's all I got.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Thank you, rob, Appreciate you, Yeah, thank you, Robin. I
don't really have anything to add to It's pretty spot
on in my opinion, you know, I just I think
at the end of the day, it's like we've been
saying over the last couple of days, Sean, if you're
going to trade Kyle Tucker, trade him as soon as
you can and get the most, get an absolute haul
like I saw the Cubs had already mentioned players.
Speaker 6 (58:43):
Let me get these correct.
Speaker 4 (58:45):
It would be East sach Paradis, which is a first
baseman and a good player and could play third base.
You would also have Saya Suzuki, really good outfielder, and
then they want the Astros would want one of the
number one draft choices, whether it be Cam Smith the
third baseman or shortstop Matt Shaw, who are really talented players.
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I think Cam Smith got drafted last year and he
already made his way up to Double A and the
Cubs organization. So if you're gonna go do it, do it,
go do it. Don't do this half in, half out bs.
Go get a haul man, and don't keep asking until you.
Speaker 5 (59:20):
Get what you want. I'm actually not sure that's enough.
I was gonna say that's probably not enough. Sure that's enough,
but think what you do if if that, if that
deal right there that you just said, you get Suzuki,
who's a really good player, every day player, every single
day and versatile, yes contact, he can play. You get
a third baseman because Bregman's gone. I think, I mean
maybe unless they say, well, we'll give you fifty five
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million more than we've been offering when have you seen
a negotiation change that fast? That's not going okay, So
you cover third base and place as well. But if
you get the other paradus, guess what you do? You
cover that as well.
Speaker 6 (59:54):
Yeah, sorry, Praatis, Yeah first as well.
Speaker 5 (59:56):
And in truth, if the Cubs want Tucker, that bat
or somebody else, you know what I'm going back for
you all you want him, I need that. Your fifth
prospect whoever you know, whoever that is in there, I
need him, whether it's an arm or whether it's an
everyday player.
Speaker 11 (01:00:10):
And or.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
You ask for another current big leaguer that fulfills another need,
whether it's depth or right field, you know what, whoever
it is you're gonna put out there. And because I
don't think with that, it sounds like Chicago still has
a chance to win that trade, even though those guys
are all three names are everyday players. So for me,
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or can be right, I'm talking about to the point
with your number one prospect or one or two prospect
in their organization that if he came here, the truth matters,
he'd probably be turn into an every day player.
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Or you know what, you want to trade Coyle, Tuck
or the Cubs Hey, we also got Ryan Presley and
grab grab more bodies.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Sure, there you go, two for five. I'll take it.
So I just to Ryan's point and to what we've
been saying, is I get to a point. Do you
want to keep bashing your head against the wall. You're
painting into a corner? Now do you want to keep
bashing your head against the wall about should we or
shouldn't be? The truth is if you know you can't,
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what do they say? Okay, don't compound one mistake with another.
And I'm going to tell you right now. One mistake,
you've got your busmo. Whether it's a mistake or not,
this is how you're doing things, so you're not paying them.
The second mistake would be to hold on to it
and he walk and it's a compensatory pick next year. Yeah,
I'm talking about with Tucker. That would be of all
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the things, that's the worst decision you can make, of
all the options you have. Now, the next worst decision
you can make is you go to Kyle Tucker one
for one. If that one for one isn't a top
twenty player in the league, then you don't make that deal. No,
that would be the where you get hosed on the
back end of this where it's like, that's all we got.
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That would be detrimental, the last thing that's gonna happen
in this whole thing. And if you're emotional about it,
then you better get over it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Did Kyle Tucker and Bregman both Even if you were
lucky enough to keep one there, you have a snowball's
chance in hell of keeping both. And the truth the
matter is, if it was a future's bet, Vegas would
be betting that both are gone and it'll be by March.
The truth the matter is you may not even be
celebrating New Year's even both are going to be gone. Yeah,
that's that, that really is. I'd take those odds. Give
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me the under on January first.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I agree, I agree, like it or not, Let's continue
this discussion about Kyle Tucker and Alex Bregman next right
here on The Shawn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
We're gonna start charging subscriptions for this stuff. Yeah, man,
I'm saying, when you saw what you were putting on
in here, I picked it up. Would you do put
it down? Thank you? And good night?
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Seven seven ninety real quick though we'll get to all
of our callers. Got a lot of guys want to
get in talk about Tucker and Ox Bregman. One thing
I was thinking of during the break. Let's say the
Astros keep Kyle Tucker. Not happening, I agree, but let's
say they do. Okay, we're playing, Yes, let's say they do.
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If you're gonna keep Kyle Tucker, then you are gonna
go have to That shows me that they're still wanting
to compete and just absolutely do everything they can to
try to get back to the World Series.
Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
They've got the pitching.
Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I think if everybody stays healthy, if you keep Kyle Tucker,
then you're gonna have to sell out and go get
a badass first baseman. You're gonna have to upgrade your
your center field position, and you're gonna have to upgrade
your third third bay position or third base position, or
get an above average player at third base.
Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
So you know what that that's gonna cost you. Yeah,
and we already know they're not the same amount would
cost you to keep breaking, thank you, So you're not
gonna do that. You're not gonna do that because of
the business model and the plans that we have seen.
You want to talk about the greatest shot of Red
Bull Vitamin B twelve and all of it put together
in one up time. Hm, you want to set a
city on its ear, I'm gonna I'm gonna see you.
(01:04:03):
I'm gonna raise you another one with it. And you
make a frigging great point. We say, if you don't
sign Tucker, you ain't get I mean, if you don't
sign bre you're obviously not signing Tucker. You want to
know what an energy and a change. If mister Crane
woke up called Dana Brown and called him in his
office and said, you know what times change. I'm gonna
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We've been a great big times change at his restaurants.
It is it is company, is logistics, company, hotel wherever,
right at golf courses. Got to cut the rough right
sometimes wakes up. You want to see a city go
crazy in a good way and you change it. You say,
you know what, we got to adapt. Pay Bregman, sign
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Tucker and watch a city just say I'm stepping out
of my comfort zone for the next handful of years.
I'm going to do this money for him and it's
not an object, it's for him. It's probably the values
and how he approaches business. And I get it and
respect it beyond belief. But imagine this now, this city,
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right now, because I guarantee you they're feeling a little
down about this. Oh yeah, imagine he says, pay him
to ten and then the negotiations are done.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Brother, he's here.
Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Because deep down, LOUISIANAA, you think you think he wants
to leave. I don't know, but I think he wants
to leave for fifty million more. Yeah, and I would too.
And then you go to Tucker and say it's take
him aside and say we're not training you or we're
with your agent. Now, would you take eight years for
three hundred million bucks and you know what he's gonna say,
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we're close, I would imagine. And then you do that,
then watch an organization in a city get pitching healthy.
You immediately become the best team in the American League. Yep,
I'm not kidding. Who's better right now? Who's better in
the American League? You say Yankees aren't better than the
Astros anyway most of the time, and now the SODA's
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gone there, they're not better.
Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
It's not the Tigers, it ain't Boston, it's not Boston.
It's not the main Kansas City, not Kansas City. It's
not the Rangers, not Toronto. No, so yeah, they Baltimore.
Maybe maybe in Baltimore. Baltimore is underachieved in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
If you keep Bregman and Tucker.
Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Yeah, the truth is Baltimore's been Kyle Tucker in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
I hate to say it too with phenomenal skill sets,
but if underachieved a little bit in the postseason. Yeah,
you want to see you know how they sometimes, like
in a locker room, you'll get somebody and it completely
turns everything around.
Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
That's like when they got Verlin.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Imagine now with.
Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
The with the narrative in the city, how it would
shift right now and they'd say, oh my gosh, he's
adjusted the business model. They just signed Bregman and they're
spending another three twenty five or three thirty on Kyle
Tucker and get them both done. Kind of take it
just just for a minute, like a Dodger approaching.
Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
What would this energy be Like I'd be through the roofs.
Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Those phone lines where they already live. People would go nuts.
But let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
I know they won't, but why can't you You can,
but you're not going to.
Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Salary cap said no, luxury text may say no money
and championships may be worth it.
Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I just look and again I would love for
that to happen. I would as a fan, absolutely, but
we've seen that it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
It'll make you, it'll brick you up. Well damn right,
it would you get bricked up? I would that happen.
I would, yeah, probably if I just just five dollars.
You gotta do is pay five fifty yeah, five half
a bill. Okay, now back to reality.
Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Yeah, back to Reality's not gonna happen. Third right fielder.
Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
So it goes back to my point, like, you know
you're not gonna you're not gonna pay out a massive
contract for Kyle Tucker after this year, and you would
only get a compository, compensatory compensatory pick. Okay, thanks, So
you move him right now and you get a haul,
and you don't stop until you get everything that you.
Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
Let want and you let those guys come to spring
training and fit into this team.
Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Or you go and you you keep Kyle Tucker and
you sell out and you go spend money to get
a first basement, a centerfielder, and a third base. But
we both know that that's not going to happen because
if that were to happen, to spend that type of money.
Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
You'd be spending on Alex Bragmant.
Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
But back to your original point, exactly, if I got
to go spend all that money to get those players,
why not keep the one the two I got? Yeah,
Exac's my point, Thank you, That's my point. And in truth,
like anything, Well, let me ask you this. And you
know how I hold Jim Crane in the highest.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Regard, and they I do.
Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
I listen, I understand that I've been on teams with
owners that did do it. There, I get it. But
I do respect him, not only as a man but
a businessman. Whether you agree, you're not gonna agree with
all his moves doesn't mean I don't hate him because
he didn't want to sign Kyle Tucker. Nothing like that.
But real quick for me, Okay, what happens at your
hotel when it's a big resort, or when all of
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a sudden things start to you know, the customer service
goes down a little bit, yeah, show, or the prices
of the food go up.
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Sure, so you lose business.
Speaker 14 (01:08:54):
So do you what do you do?
Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
You adjust?
Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Say it louder, you adjust your prices, you figured it out,
or hire metal customers, hire better customer service.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
You have to help the customer, right. If you're logistics company,
what do you do?
Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
You make adjustments on on billing and you know collection,
you know all of it, on the billing and all
of the whatever you do to get things done so
the business runs smooth. It makes more money. And in truth,
by doing that, it's the old pay me now, pay
me latter. Well, it may be a hurt on the
front end, it may be the benefit of the back
end to me. I think most competitive guys like Jim
Crane competitive A championship ring is worth half a billion dollars. Yeah,
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honestly for a guy who's got it right. So can
you imagine making that shift on a dime.
Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
It'd be fantastic. But it's not gonna happen, right, I know,
But it's sure is good to think about. Yeah, there's
no doubt. Seven one, three, two, two five seven Hinty Dougs,
Steve Brian, Gary Andy, don't go anywhere, fellas, stay there,
we'll get get to your calls next on Sports TLOK
seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
Aggie Doug, you're first.
Speaker 17 (01:10:01):
Hey, fellas, I think I've told you all this before,
But I used to work in furnished apartments and we
used to have Kyle Tucker as a client, and his
mom back in the day told me straight up that
he has no interest in signing with Houston long term.
He's always had a furnished apartment. He's never even rented
a condo here. It's just a situation where I mean,
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when you were in a furnished department, that's basically like
staying in the airbnb, you know what I'm saying. So
like that, that's no, that's not laying down roots at all.
So I've known since probably twenty eighteen that there's no
way in hell that he's going to resign here. So
as much as the Astros have been at debacle in
the front office, I don't think he can complame him
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for Kyle Tucker. Now Alex Pregnant, that's on them. But
with Kyle Tucker, I mean, he's always had a pipe
dream of opening the Tampa Stadium because he's from Tampa area,
he loves the Red Sox. His mom's a huge Yankee man.
Speaker 12 (01:11:00):
Like.
Speaker 17 (01:11:00):
It's just I just don't think that that was ever
gonna happen. And in the fact that the Astros don't
have the due diligence to know that worries me a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
M mmmm. Appreciate the call, agi, Doug.
Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
If he wants to go to Boston, if he loves Boston,
if he is gone, Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
I guess, I guess we'll take him.
Speaker 6 (01:11:19):
We'll go to Boston.
Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
I say we like. I like off first base? Yeah, yeah, Hey, Tuck,
you hit behind me and lenup?
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Sean Salisbury gonna play first base for the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
He's hit third, King Tucks at fourth right, Boston tea party, allright,
cue the duck boats.
Speaker 15 (01:11:38):
That's good.
Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
Talk to Steve and we'll get to Andy. Steve, what's up?
Speaker 11 (01:11:44):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Uh?
Speaker 15 (01:11:45):
Sean, I like your cashe of cup players that you
mentioned there for Tucker. You left one guy out though,
Uh on the Cubs kind of a key piece in
my in my book? Uh, isn't that it begins with
a b Bellinger? Uh, he'd fit in nicely at center field.
Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
If they want to add him as if they want
to add him as the fourth name, that work for me.
Speaker 15 (01:12:07):
I'm in yeah, yeah, and I want my cake and
eat it too to keep pregnant.
Speaker 8 (01:12:13):
Yeam.
Speaker 15 (01:12:14):
If you're out there, probably open that check book and
give him the money.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I want him at third base.
Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
Yeah, we're greedy and I like it. I'm with you,
but I don't think it's going to happen. I don't
think either one are going.
Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
To be here.
Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Steve, all right, Well, let's hope I'm right.
Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Rather thanks Man. Yeah, I don't think Bellinger part of
that package. But if you're the if you're the Astros,
if in fact that happened, why wouldn't you ask?
Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Might as well? Man, get greedy.
Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
You can actually if you wanted to, you can play
him out there in right field. He can play right field, yeah,
left side bat, get the back, play anywhere, any of
the outfield positions in French base. Well, yes, that's absolutely true.
That'll help, and you can take one of these. Somebody
find room for somebody else, can't. The Suzuki is a
corner outfielder. Any he's left right, so you all moving around.
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I can play him somewhere.
Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
I'm playing right, Yeah, why not figure it out?
Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Andy, what's happening.
Speaker 21 (01:13:10):
When that guy called earlier about the knowing about Tucker? Yeah,
last was No, they're gonna they're gonna trade him. They're
gonna get a haul for him.
Speaker 8 (01:13:19):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (01:13:21):
Is it just me?
Speaker 21 (01:13:22):
Does everybody think that Breckman's still batting what he did
back in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. You know, the
guy has fallen off the five in the last five
years big time from those two years. I mean, hell,
if it was bad in what he did those two years,
he'd be a fifty million dollar player right now. But
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I mean he's I mean his ops for those two
years was nineteen seventy. Last five years is seven ninety five.
His average was two ninety one those years. The last
four years his average is two fifty eight. I mean
it's on base percentage from four oh eight now to
three fifty. I mean, everything has dropped. I mean, he's
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not a thirty million dollars a year player.
Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
I think that's fair. I mean it's not a lie.
I think that. I don't think he's I mean he
may get thirty million, but okay, let's all three real
quick Andy, would would you pay him thirty million for
five years?
Speaker 15 (01:14:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Okay, Brian, we're not paying thirty million for five years.
I wouldn't do thirty million, okay, and neither would I.
Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 21 (01:14:30):
So no, he's twenty he's twenty two to twenty five
million a year player. That's what is stat show, and
that's over five years.
Speaker 11 (01:14:39):
Hey, besides, you know.
Speaker 21 (01:14:40):
What I think is gonna happen at first base?
Speaker 15 (01:14:42):
You know you can't.
Speaker 21 (01:14:43):
We can't feel every position.
Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
You got a bunch of holes.
Speaker 21 (01:14:45):
You got cert field, you're gonna have right field, katuckers,
you got third base.
Speaker 11 (01:14:50):
You have to feel.
Speaker 21 (01:14:51):
You got to feel his first base because you still
haven't filled up from last year. I think they're gonna
give Kartina a shot at first base.
Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
Wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
If they don't get somebody through this And thanks Andy.
Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Uh yeah, I think Victor Carrottini will be uh playing
a good amount of first base, which I don't mind
because these swings are pretty nice.
Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
I still don't think they're I still think they're in
search of that position.
Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Yeah, I think so, I do as I should be
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Rockets beat the Warriors. They're headed to Vegas for the
semifinals of the NBA Cup. Final day of Winter Meetings
in Major League Baseball, Texans safety Jalen Petrie out for
the season with a pectoral injury.
Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
They play that offense this weekend. Seven seven eighties and
number to join.
Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
I've been talking about Alex Bragman Kyle Tucker trade situation
for Tucker and Ryan Presley.
Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
Also is fromer Valdez up to be trade.
Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
All kinds of things coming out of the Winter meetings
this week in Major League Baseballlet's talk to Brian.
Speaker 6 (01:16:32):
What's happening to Brian? We appreciate you holding good morning.
Speaker 22 (01:16:34):
Hey, oh no worries, guys, appreciate it and showing. I
got a little small Las Vegas bull proposal bet for
you at the end uh your games come that helps
charity out. So hey, real quick on the on the
Tucker situation, I think the name we might be overlooking
our a couple of names.
Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
I think we might be able to get from the Cuns.
Speaker 22 (01:16:54):
I don't you're gonna have to match some money. I'd
be fine with Damsby Swanson maybe getting I'm trying to
move him over to third possibly or even Jamison Tye
on you you bolstered that pitching rotation. I know we
were in on him, or at least Cone. He was
the name of the trade deadline. I'd say, get the
cubs of the package you're gonna take. Get one of
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those two guys in there if you can, along with
Suzuki and Paradus and whoever else you might be able
to get.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I would also make the call.
Speaker 22 (01:17:23):
And force them to tell me no. I would call
the Pittsburgh Pirates and say, Kyle Tucker and name a
couple of guys. Put the packers together, Paul Skeens and
Cabrian Hayes. Can you keep Brian Hayes and Paul Skins.
We will do a sign and trade with Tucker to
use yours for the next ten years whatever it is
fifteen years. You are guaranteed to get them, but we
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want Paul Skeens in return. I would force them to tell.
Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Me no, nay, Brian, before you finish, let me tell
you something. You and I got a better chance. It's
snow hitting Hell then Skeens being departed. I understand you
make the call, make the call, make him tell you no,
I get it, but hell, he's there, Bob Gibson, Okay,
right now, but I get it.
Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yeah, I got your brother real quick.
Speaker 22 (01:18:14):
My Aggie's your Trojans in the Las Vegas ball.
Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
I can hit you up on Twitter and we can
sort it out.
Speaker 22 (01:18:19):
But it was thinking fifty bucks for a local charity,
loser pace to the to a local charity, and if
you were willing.
Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
To do something, yeah, just straight up, straight up bet yeah, no,
spend bosh.
Speaker 14 (01:18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
I haven't looked at what the spread is, but we can.
It's a bowl game. I don't I don't even I
imagine you guys are favorites. Probably no points. Let's just
go straight up fifty bucks, donate it to the guy's charity.
Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I'm in.
Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
That'll work. I'll hit you up on X.
Speaker 22 (01:18:50):
It's fun the way he puts a little something X
from there.
Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
You got it, brother, I appreciate it, will make it,
It'll make it worth watching. Thanks, man, appreciate it. Like
his idea, it'd be great. Yeah, well, I want to
call off the red and get Dela Cruz too.
Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Anywhere?
Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Would you do this?
Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
If you were Cincinnati, would you trade Elie Dela Cruz
for exactly That's what I'm saying anywhere? Right? I can
put him in like twelve positions. Yeah, I may even
have him pitch what's the other for Pittsburgh. Dude's a
freak too. When when he said it, I was thinking
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that's who he was going to say, because there's about five,
but there's probably ten sacred cows in baseball somewhere that did.
When you call up, you got no shot. And I
love his idea. Call and make him tell you no.
But guess who ain't going.
Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Yes, he's not going anywhere, man.
Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Yeah as well if he did, if you did get him,
we'll guess who opens the season started next year.
Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
But also, guess who's not staying here when his contract
when his working contract comes up? Ain't Paul Paul Skins
is gone.
Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Oh out of Pittsburgh. I'm here.
Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
Well whatever reason he came in.
Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
If history holds true, Pains and Elie Dela Cruz in
Cincinnati and Paul Skeins in Pittsburgh will both be eligible
for free agency and leave because those are two markets
that don't have a tendency to pay right five hundred
million dollars and as a pitcher and a and an
everyday player, Yeah, those two may be the next in
line for big money. Yeah, so there you go, doubt
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Talk to Aaron. What's that baron?
Speaker 23 (01:20:22):
Hey, guys, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Good morning?
Speaker 14 (01:20:25):
Hey, just uh.
Speaker 23 (01:20:26):
I was thinking, I don't know, it seems to me
that the Astros you know, maybe impulse trading or impulse
buying right now. And I'm thinking, because you know, they
they made it to the playoffs last year, and I mean,
it sucks that we lost to the Tigers, but what
if they you know, sign Bregman, try to keep the
same line up. Keith Tucker take it. You know, it's
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his last year before he's not on the astros. He's
gonna he's gonna play, he's gonna step it up, he's
gonna play as hard as you can to get that
big contract at the end. Use that to our advance inch,
you know, up until up until the trade deadline, if
you know, and if he's performing well or if we
need you know, starting pitching or whatever, then consider trading
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them at that point when he's maybe at a higher
value and we get more back. But then that way,
maybe we get a lake up in the American League.
Let me trade that.
Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
Let me ask you this, Aaron, So what happens?
Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Good point.
Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
I think that is a viable option. But let's say
he's tearing it up and he asks, those are four
games in front of first place?
Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
You're keeping him?
Speaker 23 (01:21:34):
That would be nice if they could.
Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
But now let's go with your scenario, and I'm with you.
He's playing MVP baseball, which we've seen him do before,
and he asked, those are four or five games up
in the division. And now you got the pressure as
an organization saying, oh hell, what are we doing now?
What kind of message is that if we trade the
guy when he's the MVP in the American League? Right
now and we're in five games up in first place.
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Do we go for another ring like they did, go
get Kokuchi this hue? Do we go didn't trade Bregman.
Do we go for another ring, come up short, and
then guess what happens? You lose him for a compensatory pick.
That's that's It's almost like you don't want to be
put in that situation. So don't wait till the trade deadline.
Because if it's me and Kyle Tucker's the American League
MVP at the midpoint and we're five games up in
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first place, I ain't trading him.
Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
I'm going to go try and get another ring.
Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
And now the problem is if we fall short of
the ring, we don't have that, we don't have the jewelry,
and Kyle Tucker's making three hundred and seventy five or
four hundred million dollars somewhere else without us getting a haul.
Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
You see what, I love what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
But man, aren't you even putting the front office in
more of a difficult situation now? And if he's banged up,
or if he's playing poor baseball, which he probably won't be,
but if he is, there's always the if what happens
then did you just devat did you just devalue? So
what is the advantage of keeping him till the trade deadline?
Speaker 14 (01:22:58):
For you and I?
Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
It for you and I it's maybe they'll have that
epiphany in that they'll decide to keep him in paying
for the three hundred and fifty million, right, But it's
sure it sure makes their job a lot tougher either way,
whether he's struggling for value or whether he's killing it
to keep you.
Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
But I like your point, man. I wish that'd be
the I wish it was. I wish it was easy. Unfortunately,
you'd put more pressure on the front office if he's
raking in there in first place, and now you've got
to give up those people and get a compensatory pick
at this time next year.
Speaker 23 (01:23:30):
Yeah, that's a good point. And if he was killing
it and Crane was it, you know, willing to sign
him for longer, that would be great, right now.
Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
That'd be well, that's the best of all the worlds,
right and Ed Bregman's still playing third base before you
do it, that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
I'm with you, Thanks, buddy, appreciate the call. Thanks for
comments think see it?
Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
What that puts him in Brown Yeah, puts him in
a tough way because if you're in first place and
he's playing MVP baseball, you'll you'll lose a city if
you trade him. And if he's playing bad baseball or
banged up or hurt, then you've taken more value from
him than you would have now. And the truth is,
regardless of his injury last year, folks, I got news
for you, there's nothing devalued about Kyle Tucker right now.
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People are standing in line to want to get him
for obvious reasons because it wasn't an injury. Oh many
towards achilles a second time, it's one that it's one.
At the end of the year, almost felt like he
was about ready to go right full time. And if
he plays great and he's the MVP, he may not
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even if you kept him. There's a good chance, going
by what Aggie dug said, did no matter if you
offer him three hundred and fifty million dollars you.
Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Aint keeping him.
Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
No, you're not, because he wants to go play in
Tampa or Austin, right, So the truth is in truth.
Other than for us as fans, if you're not going
to keep him. It's actually dumb low IQ to go
to spring training with him on your roster. Yeah, it
sounds crazy, but it really is, because you'll paint yourself
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into a major corner if you're trying to move them
at the deadline. You're in the first place, and he's
the MVP in the American League's like what we said earlier,
trade him, now, get it done. Get it done by
trade it. I'm not even convinced yet that Alex Bregman
is going to go before Kyle Tucker. Does you think
the way the heat is going, it almost feels to
me like Kyle Tucker could be the guy that goes
before Alex Bregman.
Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Sides, doesn't it a little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Or maybe it's just the buzz because of who he is,
but it has a it has a feel like that.
I don't know if you feel the same way I do,
but I have a bit of a feel that that
that seems like something that could happen.
Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Well, actually, it's it's funny you say that.
Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
So.
Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Jesse Rodgers of ESPN covering Major League Baseball just put out,
uh some reports on both Kyle Tucker and Cody Belindrick.
So Cody Bellinger was brought up I believe last segment
or maybe either way by a caller in regards to
him being with the Cubs and being on the potential
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trade block. Gosh, man, this is this is these winter meetings.
The stuff just continues on all week man, all these dominoes.
And you know what, another thing that I was thinking
about Sean is is obviously the uh there's some smoke
and fire around Kyle Tucker, around Alex Bregman. You see
all these other teams making moves, trades, uh, signing guys
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like Garrett Crochet being traded to the Red Sox. The
Astros haven't made one move. Take away the Kyle Tucker
and the Alex bregmant thing for a second signed.
Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
Then they signed somebody a couple of days a week ago.
Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
We won't move. But you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
Significant Yeah, made a move or second minor league guys
there you go, Yeah, like a significant move, yeah, like
like upgrade your center field position, getting a first baseman.
So you're hoping they have a big plan something, do something.
Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
All these other teams are getting better, and I'm not
saying go and try and sign somebody for four hundred
million dollars.
Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
It's gonna happen. Make some kind of move.
Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
But here's what I would do something but in not
defending them. But as you well know, maybe they are
and the other team's not playing nicely, playing well in
the sand by so the only thing they could do
otherwise in trading somebody right now is to sign Alex
bregmant right. Fifty millions a long haul to get to
come to an agreement, which we don't think is going
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to happen. So in truth, they may be I don't
want to say frantic, but furious, fast and furious, and
somebody else like the cubs of the Red Sox that
are in this fray or the Yankees, may be saying nope, nope, nope, yep,
maybe yeah, And so they may be moving, but they
can't quite shake because you've got to have another person
to play.
Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Yeah, it's two in the hand, one in the bush,
so figure it out. No, it's opposite, Oh, one in
the hand, two in the bush.
Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Movers and shakers, dog, would you rather be a mover
or a shaker?
Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
Would you rather be a ball or a shot collar?
They'd rather be a baller See. That's what I don't
get by you, guys. I think you once you were
a baller, you have a chance to become a Yeah,
if you're a baller your second command.
Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
That's all right. Like being a pimp. You want to
be a pimp or you want to be the head pimp? Head,
you want to be the head.
Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
I want to be.
Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
I'm the shot called. You are the shark I want
to be. Yeah, you don't want to be the pimp. No,
because I've already been the pimps. So now you're the
shock the pimp and you're the baller. So now you
got to stay at you to the shot call. You
got a stable of pimps that you're watching over right,
I got you and every get guess where all the
money is going to? The Yeah exactly, Yeah, and then
I get to funnel that wherever I want, like for instance,
in my drug deals, right exactly. Allegedly you're alleged drug deals.
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We need to confirmed nor to dig drug deals.
Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
Seven one, three, two, two, five, seven ninety is the
number of the join will continue to talk about Alex
Bregman and Kyle Tucker. Jesse Rogers of ESPN covering Major
League Baseball put out a report in regards to Kyle Tucker,
Cody Bellinger and the Astros.
Speaker 6 (01:28:46):
What is that all about? That's next?
Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
This is the Shoan Salisbury Show. Are you not the
tang Let's begin now on Sports Talk seven nineties.
Speaker 5 (01:29:06):
Get out to Biscuit, Biscuit. What's happening?
Speaker 11 (01:29:10):
Hey?
Speaker 24 (01:29:10):
Dropping more than my brothers?
Speaker 12 (01:29:12):
Hey, let me say this for I get to my Astros.
Speaker 24 (01:29:15):
Man. I'm gonna say it again, Sean, I'm not trading nobody.
I'm keeping my young team together. We're gonna continue to grow.
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
The obviously speaking about those rockets, yep. And another point
last night, don't score one hundred points, knock down clutch
free throws and get a stop on the other end
of secure a game. Different team, man, I don't. I
don't think there's many in the cities arguing with you.
What they roll with, what's getting you, where they're getting,
and where they're getting is better than where they've been
in constant improvement. I'm with you.
Speaker 24 (01:29:50):
Now to the Astro Belima, I'm gonna ask you a question,
and you said something WI you rather okay, let me
give you a would you wrap it? Would you rather
another run for the championship next year and possibly be
sucked for five or six years, or would you rather
be media for three or four years and if possibly
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be in the running for a championship five six years
from now. I'd rather try to Let's let's push it
just to the middle man. Let's try to win and
get us If you think we were what I was
trying to what we would like three or four games
from getting to the World Series last.
Speaker 14 (01:30:27):
Year, I mean, I mean we lost.
Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
We got two years ago to a home series away
with a lead of getting to the World Series when
the Rangers won it. And last year obviously losing in
the first round. But if you go a couple rounds here,
you're seven or eight wins away from getting to the
World Series. Yeah, last year because you're in the playoffs
and doesn't take you know, you got to win what
was the first one?
Speaker 12 (01:30:49):
All everything?
Speaker 24 (01:30:50):
I mean, I mean, you you know, you could be
like say, like the Phillies, they've been good for last
you know, seventy year, but they had no rings to
show for where you know, you have some team that
maybe just one one one one series and then you
know you fall off the map, then you come back,
I'd rather take Let's let's man, let's try to get it.
Let's try to get one more while we got out
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two A and a couple other guys and uh Fronberg
and look like the picture staffs.
Speaker 11 (01:31:16):
Coming around has add a couple of pieces and make
another run.
Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
Yeah, so Bscy, I'm with you. If you keep Kyle
Tucker for his last year in a contract, you have
to go upgrade first base. You got upgrade center field,
and if you lose bregnant, you're gonna have to find
an above average player to play a third base in
order to win a championship.
Speaker 14 (01:31:33):
I'm with it.
Speaker 24 (01:31:34):
Let's say, can we do that. If we can't do that,
then yeah, Trey Tucker, But why let's try to see
if we can get a center fielder. Like you say,
if we can't keep breaking, get a third basement and
then then maybe nothing picture and let's let's roll with it.
Get rid of Princely and then and can't pick up
some other pitching, and let's roll with it.
Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
Go grab another one if you can, and then deal
with the play in the now, play where you're play
where your feet are, and then deal with the rest
later is your style right now?
Speaker 15 (01:32:03):
Right?
Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
Biscuity not a bad idea that. The question is, are
they willing to take a compensatory pick rather than get
a haul for Kyle Tucker and just live with it.
I don't know if they are. He makes I'm all
I've always told you a championship. I'm all about the chip.
Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
All the time.
Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
Brades are now.
Speaker 5 (01:32:21):
Yeah, listen, and if I have to go through four
years of struggles, give me another ring?
Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Ye know how hard it isn't win three rings in
a decade?
Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
Really hard.
Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Almost dropped the S bob, so I have cover up.
I had to cover it with a oh, just don't
drop the four letter S bomb, right, So there you go, man.
But and I get it. But I'm trying to think
like the front office. If we're thinking like the front office,
there's no way in hell that you're when you when
you're not gonna pay. There's no way in hell that
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you can roll with Kyle Tucker all year long without
getting something from him unless you feel like, well, we're
gonna we're okay struggle in the next five years or
three years, whatever it is. I don't see it happening. Yeah,
I got to rebuild the Fharmcists. But I'm with you
in viscit. I want to win now. Yeah, I'm all
about championships.
Speaker 19 (01:33:05):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
If you got him, smoke him. If you got him,
and you got him right now, but you ain't gonna
have him for long. And I don't think you either
want are going to be here by March now old
by January one?
Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
Yeah, seven, one three five seven. Honey, Rick, what's going on?
Speaker 15 (01:33:17):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (01:33:17):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Guys? Well, guys, I always say, love your show.
Speaker 25 (01:33:21):
Look, I just wanted to weigh in a little bit
on the Bregman Tucker thing. And one of the things
thinking about Tucker, I don't know if I'm looking at
this right, but your trade partners for him are very limited.
Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
In that you know the kind of salary he'll come in.
Speaker 25 (01:33:36):
I mean, if I'm the Cubs and know the Yankees
missed on Juan Soto, am I gonna put myself in
the same position the Astros would.
Speaker 12 (01:33:44):
Be in a year from now?
Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Uh if if they if they do that trade. And
one of the things that concerns me about Bregman, He's.
Speaker 25 (01:33:52):
At a point in his career and salary where you're
gonna have the Tigers and other people that normally wouldn't
be involved in players like Tucker. So you know, I
don't know if it'll be as easy to move him Tucker,
meaning because of the limited trade partners?
Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Am I looking at this correctly?
Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
You think I think limited?
Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
Yeah, you know, three or four teams, but in baseball terms,
that may not be limited. Rick, it may not. And
the truth is, if you have one that loves you,
there is no limit because they'll do whatever they can
desperation to get the guy. So I get what you're
saying that there's not twelve teams standing in line. The
truth of the matter is if somebody has a hanker
and for Kyle Tucker, you won't have to have a
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bidding war. They'll give up. If you're if you're the
if you're the Astros, you kind of hold a little
bit of the cards to this right. You want a
great right fielder, and think about the Yankee situation. You
lose and all the all the narrative that's going on there,
losing Soto and you're close and they're mad at Soto.
You want to know how you quiet that down with
the franchise that spends money, go trade some prospects for
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Kyle Tucker, because right now Yankee fans aren't thinking about
their prospects. You know what they're thinking about. We lost
one of the best players in the world for seven
hundred and sixty five million. How do we simmer that
down a little? Well, you go get Kyle Tucker. So
it is, and you know how it is. Optics matter
to front offices, don't they. You know I'm saying that narrative. Well, look,
we lost Soda, but here was our plan all along.
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Think about how the Yankees could cover that. Well for
seven sixty five We're gonna re sign Kyle Tucker for
four hundred, and we get a guy who's got more
tools than Soda, may not be a better hitter. And
then we went out and got Max Freed, so we
doubled down. So we got a better team than we
had last year. So don't be mad at us, because
if Soda goes and it's two ninety with thirty home
runs and with them at city Field, guess what was
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not cityfield?
Speaker 14 (01:35:41):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Cityfield? Is a city field?
Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
Then then we actually had this plan all along because
we knew the Astros were gonna move Tucker. They were're
gonna pay him. See how that works on the narrative.
You really only need a player or two in it,
meaning a team or two. So I do think there'll
be enough. And when the players are Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox,
Phillies and Detroit, you're not gonna have any problem moving him.
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And you absolutely have to since you're not gonna sign him.
Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
You just do you.
Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
Hey, you guys appreciate it, buddy, Thanks man. Here's what
I need from them, though, to move Kyle Tucker. You
can't settle for a well. Man, if this guy turns out,
it's got to be that's the best prospect in their
farm system, that's an everyday player, that's another really good
top ten prospect in their farm system, and that guys
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are starting third baseman. That's what you got to go
get to. Because if you're telling me that that team
that they're gonna get is paying Kyle Tucker between three
hundred and fifty and four hundred million, he ain't worth
just one player. And if you settle now, that's the
only way you hold out on the trade right now
is if somebody wants to low ball you because they
think you're desperate, you tell him to kiss your lily ass. Yeah,
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and you tell him I'll see you late. You'll come back.
Oh yeah, you'll come back. You want a five tool player,
you'll be back. And when you come back, I'm not
only asking for four players now, I want a fifth.
Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
Yeah, Now I won five.
Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
So screw you. And that's the way you got to
go about. You're not signing him. Try to get a
hold the business model says, you're not signing him, and
I'm going by the history of the business model, you
don't have a chance in hell to sign him. And
the truth is now the stuff to hear, he may
not even want to be here, right, exactly might if
you kept him in all the city's hey, it's great,
we're a really good team, and all of a sudden,
this time of year comes around. Next year he's like,
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I've always had a dream to go home to Tampa. Yeah,
I've been a diehard Red Sox fan since I was
a kid. Right, well, we got we got ten years
at four hundred million.
Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
They got ten ways at four hundred million, tool too, right,
yeahays cool. That's the other thing when it comes to
free agicy, you got to make sure the dude that
you're offer the money to actually wants to stay right, Yeah,
gotta trade him. Yeah, as much as we love him,
you got to trade him because you're not paying him.
Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
You're not even gonna get close him, No, not even close.
Seven one three two one two five. Seven ninety is
the number to join. We'll continue to take your calls
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seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
I had lived out there.
Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
In order of August. Wait, let's talk to Ronnie. Ronnie,
what's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Thank, good morning, guys.
Speaker 26 (01:38:13):
What the Astros are going through now is the final
ramification of Rob Manford's dictatorial ruling, stripping us of four
draft choices and a boatload of international money because they
could not restock the farm system and develop prospects. You
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to trade themselves for people as far as Tucker. To
everybody saying, well, why won't Crane signed Tucker? Why won't
Crane and Sean you alluded to it briefly. If Tucker
doesn't want to sign before his free agency begins, he's
not gonna sign, so too prove that with the Yankees,
the Yankees could have offered him a billion dollars and
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he wasn't going to sign until he became free agent
to get to totally test the water. So you know,
I'm not mad at at Crane. The thing that the
Astros need to do if they're not going to dive
into the pool, the deep end of the pool, they
need to And I don't know how you if you're
limited now in terms of how many players you can
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sign internationally and beyond the draft, if you can go
and to get free agentsy high school kids, college kids,
dock the farm system with as many players as you
can sign, push the ones you can develop and sign
them the long term deals. If they pan out when
they're twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years old, that's
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when you can maybe sign them to long term deals
like they did with Harper and Machado. I think it was.
But you know, I don't want to sign a guy
that's twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine years old to
an eight, nine, ten year deal. And if that's all
these guys want, then let the Yankees have them.
Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
It's a good point, Ronnie. Thank you for the call.
Seven one, three, two, two five seven. I Ney dominate,
You're up next.
Speaker 13 (01:40:05):
Good morning, Hey, good morning to both y'all. This this
is really addressed to Bryant. No, no disrespect, Sam, but
you'll team the Red Sox, and we know you want
the shows to win. But when I'm listening to Bryant talk,
I can hear the frustration really really, because you know,
he's really really about the shows and for whoa.
Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
You got back that up a little and oh yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes no and lifelong, lifelong Socks fan since I was five.
But my frustration is palpable. I'm just not dumb enough
to buy into I'm not talking about you anybody, and
if it is you, then it is you because I
love you. I'm just not dumb enough to buy into
the fact that we're naive enough to think that I'm
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gonna cry over spilt milk when both are gone.
Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Ain't nothing I can do about it.
Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
Yeah, and if he goes to Boston, I'll crawl ten
miles over broken glasses, say, well, the team we cover
and I love goes to the team I grew up loving.
No issue, if they're going to leave go there instead
of the Yankees.
Speaker 11 (01:41:01):
No, no, no, that's not That's not what I meant.
Speaker 13 (01:41:04):
That's not what I meant.
Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
What I mean.
Speaker 13 (01:41:08):
You're come in coming from okay, cool, you coming from
a place of perspective. I'm coming from a place of
a die hard, die hard fan, and I when I'm
listening to Brian talk, I feel like Brian is on
the same level as me. I'm not saying that you're
gonna cry or still make milk, my man, that's not
at all what I'm saying. What I'm My whole point
of the phone the phone call was this. The narrative
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now was already pretty much out. Whether Tucker's whether they
keep Tucker for a year or you know, to the
next trading deadline or whatnot, it's already out. If you
come up in the Astros farm system or they draft
you or whatever, and they develop you for four, five,
six years, whatever, you become a five.
Speaker 12 (01:41:48):
Tool player like like Tucker is, they're not gonna keep you.
Speaker 11 (01:41:52):
And that's the frustrated thing as a diehard fan.
Speaker 13 (01:41:55):
Whereas if you're a Dodger, if you're a Red Sock,
if you're a Yankee Philly comes even, they're going to
spend that money to keep you and trying to tell
the Ashows fan base that we can't afford you. If
that was true, it's like you were Awak, we were
the Milwaukee Brewers or something like that. I think the
fan base will kind of really truly understand it, but
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we're not. And so it's just like time and time again,
no matter who the player is, it's like once you
get to a certain part in your career and you
reach that status and the Ashows are not going to
sign you long term. And I think the Hose tu
Bay deal was a was a sweet sweet deal because
Jose like kind of like the last call of Jose
wants to be here now. If Trumper doesn't want to
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be here, it's nothing you can do about that. But
the narrative across the league, Shine is it is. What
I'm saying is like is already out and as a
true true truth, Like your first team is Boston and
that's great. Well for my first team it's Houston, and
but you know for a fact, Boston's gonna back up
the truck because Boston wants to Boston and New York
they're gonna keep up with each other. We don't have
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that dealing no more. At least I don't. And when
I'm when I mentioned Bryant, that's where I was coming
from because it's kind of like.
Speaker 8 (01:43:06):
I.
Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Get it because.
Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
Happening, right, I get it because I went through it
when they traded when when they let Mookie Betts go,
when he's a Red Sox your best player, you let go.
Red Sox have done this that they've done it, So
I get your point one hundred percent. I mean, I'm
invested in both. I work for one, but it's you know,
it's like anything. I grew up a Raider fan. If
the Raiders play the Houston tex If the Raiders play
the Houston Texas in the AFC Championship game at some point,
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guess who I'm rooting for? No, No, I'm Raiders. If
they play against each other, I'm going with where my
heart is. My heart doesn't get changed because I moved locations.
To me, that's a bitch fan.
Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
That ain't me.
Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
If they're not playing the Raiders, I want the Texans
to beat everybody else. That's exactly right.
Speaker 13 (01:43:52):
But sho you know one thing about the Red Sox
that they've done this they have Oh yeah, well recently
the Astros have done him more. And when I mentioned Brian,
all I was trying to say was and maybe I
said it the wrong way, but my whole point was,
and I'll let you go, is say, for instance, Player.
Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
A, you guys grew up them. Now you guys grew
up with him. I get it. You're you're spot on right,
no doubt right.
Speaker 13 (01:44:18):
Player A comes up in the fall, Sister player A
comes up, Chilsey becomes a five star, a five tool player,
like like Tucker. Okay, Now the.
Speaker 12 (01:44:26):
Fan base is like, we're not going to keep him.
Speaker 13 (01:44:29):
Where the threshold is said that this the m O
is just the Houston Astros are not going to keep him,
and the rest of the MLB knows it now. So
it's kind of like it's kind of it's it sucks man,
because it's the business side. I get the business side,
but Tucker Tuckle is a damn good.
Speaker 12 (01:44:47):
Ball player, man, and so is Bregg.
Speaker 13 (01:44:50):
So it's like, you mean to tell me we're coming
in to the offseason, what we would think about that
maybe we could sign Akuchi, maybe maybe we got a
real real chance to keep it.
Speaker 11 (01:44:57):
Bregman.
Speaker 13 (01:44:58):
Now it's like, wait a minute, what and you can't
come and David Brown can't come on here what he can,
but he's not gonna be received. We'll talk about, well,
potentially the process we get. I don't want to hear
that right now. Man, this is it's just it's it
just doesn't feel good. That's all that I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
You are spot on, and I don't disagree with you
one bit. It's it's gonna cut deep. I'm just to
the point where I've expect with this, I expect the
cut to come. Just how you're gonna heal it. You
know you're gonna put staples in it, you're gonna stitch
it up, you're gonna put a band aid on it. Yeah,
you got the choice. That's how it is. He's right,
and he's always makes a great point, just the way
a word had come out of his mouth, like, oh
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you want him to know? Hell No, I don't want him.
I gotta cover him every day, right, I don't want
him to leave. But if he's gonna leave, you tell
me you got the Dodgers, the Yankees, and the Red
Sox lineup where you want him to go. If you
know you're losing him, I don't care. But I'm talking
about the fan base. Oh, listen to him. Just don't
go to the Yankees. Please stay away from the Dodgers
because of core of my my thought process would be,
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you'd shove him towards Boston. That just happens to be
a team that I was die hard by, family bled
for when I was growing up.
Speaker 6 (01:46:02):
I was saying, I don't care, meaning whoever gives you
the best haul, right.
Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
That's number.
Speaker 5 (01:46:07):
I don't give a who if Sam Houston State. Point
is that if you're a fan and it was all
equal prospects and everything, you want him in Fenway. You
don't want him in Yankee State. Dodger sure, And he said, well,
let's pu him in the Nation League. Eventually, if they're good,
you're going to meet him anyway. Right, So that that's
the point, and I get it, and he's spot on
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the emotion you're tied to. It's just like if USC
was vying for the number one recruit in the country
in basketball and Kelvin was going to get him too,
you know, Kelvin's I feel like Kelvin's like family to me.
I love him, matter of fact, he's one of one
of my mentors.
Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Love him.
Speaker 5 (01:46:44):
But if by Trojans could pull it off as an
alma mater. But if I lost out to Kelvin, guess
what I'm doing Because guess how many times I'm going
to be in the USC's basketball game this year as
opposed to Samson's the House and for Tita Center.
Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
We'll be here, right, So that's.
Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
The art that goes But when you're here, you cover
it's like the emotion the thing is and maybe it's
his former player and has nothing to do with who
I root for, Brian, you know what it really is,
And I said, because I played, But there's something that
goes on with players. We get over it quicker than fans,
do you, Honest to God, you just do. So my
emotions over the years have changed from before I started
playing at SC and Minnesota. Your emotions change because you're
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inside that business model. You're you actually get either you
get obsessed by it or you get burned.
Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
You know, right, You you got the uh since you
played in the league, you got the the super competitive aspect.
Speaker 6 (01:47:34):
But at the end of the day, it's a business,
right and compartment is.
Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
If I took it, if every athlete took it personal,
you'd be miserable the whole life.
Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
And now now that you're a quote unquote regular civilian,
if you will, that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
What I am. It was you you get that, I
get over a loss quicker, and I get over the
emotion of losing, because you know what, inevitably a lot
of things do come to an end.
Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
You just got to know how to.
Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
You used to want to let it faster where ruins you.
It's not a lifetime sentence, is my point. So that
I think that's helped me. Trust me, I was that
Raider fan or that growing up. It's like, wait a second,
I felt like you know, in tears when you're nine
years old when the Raiders lose. But with the ashes
they started to look at listen, it simply comes down
and if the oldest cliche in the world is, oh.
Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
It's a it's a business decision, but in truth it
is that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
It's a billion dollars right If listen, if we all
had a perfect Springer still be in center field, Coreage
still be a short stop, Bregman would be here, and
Kyle Tucker would be your starting right fielder and hitting
number three in your lineup.
Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Or five, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:48:38):
But as the problem is that I've been hitting the
face by it as a player. So if you don't
get over it, so it's carried over in this it's like,
what are you really going to do?
Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
What are you really going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Hell?
Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
I hated to see Dusty go. Joe Spott has proven
he belongs as a manager of Major League Baseball, so
I still love Dusty. Doesn't mean I can't think that
Joe Spott is to do great things. Any art has,
So it just it's I just think the experience of it.
I mean, who doesn't want to be a CEO? But
if the CEO knows what the CEO goes through more
than man, wouldn't that be great? Then when you're sitting
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in it, you're like, I got to make a business decision.
I like this dude in Man of Life.
Speaker 6 (01:49:15):
Yeah, but it's a business.
Speaker 5 (01:49:16):
My stock off, I got to answer to people. It sucks.
It's it's really a blessing and a curse because I do.
I'll tell you what I do miss is the they
It ruins your day for the I mean I don't
miss it, but I do. You miss that emotion. But
if the Texans lose against Miami, it's gonna suck. I'm
not gonna want to see it. But I'm not waking
up Money. I'll be wake up Money with the fiery
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attitude kissed, but I'm gonna sleep, okay Monday night. Oh
it's like it's like but I getn't used to when
I played you.
Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Get Over, But like, man, you know you're gonna go
watch the tape. And when I was twelve years old,
it was like it was everything. It was a life.
Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
I've just been able to get to a point where
I'm not letting a pass by c J. Stroud ruined
my week or a mistackle so tough though, man, that's
called the emotional fan.
Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
But play and helped, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
I think what you need to do is you need
to put your replica ring on around your necklace, all right,
put your put your put your Carl's Korea throw back
jersey back on. Okay, dude, I don't even wear coming
to the station tomorrow, ready to go. I don't even
wear my championship rig Okay, why would I wear somebody
else's around your neck on a neck and I'll give
it to a girl to go steady with. Yeah, all right,
(01:50:25):
let's get to break seven one, three, two, one two five,
seven ninety got another loaded phone board.
Speaker 6 (01:50:29):
We'll get to everybody next sports like seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
You're back.
Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Get back at it.
Speaker 5 (01:50:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:50:38):
The band, yeah, I mean the group.
Speaker 1 (01:50:40):
Yeah, the group.
Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
Oh that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
I don't know what you're talking No, tag teams?
Speaker 5 (01:50:43):
Is that being or them?
Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (01:50:45):
Yeah? Right yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Yeah, it's like what a Fred said led Zeppelin. He
thought it was one person. I told you that.
Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Yeah, tag team. They thought a guy's name was lead
and Zeppelin. You know what's funny, this is.
Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
Rand There's plenty of people would think that kind of stuff.
That's what what's that country? Uh?
Speaker 6 (01:51:00):
George line?
Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
No, nobody thinks somebody's names? Man, what's the other one?
Speaker 24 (01:51:05):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
Did they sing? Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Okay, you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Town?
Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
No, nobody's names a little in their last their first
day's big town two first names lady a. No, we've
talked about it before. It's it's it's neither here nor there,
but go ahead. The Dixie Chicks No, okay, no it is?
Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
Are they current?
Speaker 19 (01:51:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:51:25):
We talked about him. I mean there's sing some good
cuts too. There it's not Brooks and Done. It's it
sounds like one. It's one name, but it's two dudes.
And I can't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
I can't even think about it anyway. What was your point?
It'll it'll, it'll come to me, It'll come to me.
Speaker 6 (01:51:43):
Uh yeah, I know. Well yeah, but you know I
got it all right.
Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
So what you're getting ready to say, remember.
Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
The other day, what was the basic white guy name
that we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Homer?
Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
Yeah, sub check this out. We'll get to all callers
and we'll get the nine o'clock hour. Don't go anywhere.
But so I'm driving home from my uh my TENU team. No, no, no,
that was a couple of days ago. You guys have
which is a good thing. Yeah, well check too many times.
But I digress. So I'm driving home from the winter
(01:52:16):
program that my TENU team is going through. Right, So
we got workouts, we got weights, and we have some
agility stuff. Blah blah blah. Driving home, I'm listening to
Sunday ninety nine one, our sister station right across the hall.
Speaker 6 (01:52:25):
Of course, they got Christmas music. I've told you this.
Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
I'm trying to listen to as much Christmas u as
I can, so I get myself into the festival holiday spirit,
right yeah. And during the night it's Delilah de Li
love everybody else. Deliah is right freaking iconic. She's got
a guy that called in. His name is Robert, and
he's telling her about like his favorite traditions for Christmas
blah blah blah. So he tells this story about it
(01:52:51):
was a good story. Him and his wife just bought
a new house. So last year they were in an
apartment with their two kids and they did a blowout
part because they were removed. In this year they're celebrating.
He was like, my wife is a huge fan. Delila goes,
what's your wife's name?
Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Esther?
Speaker 5 (01:53:08):
Oh, that's that's her name is Esther. That's normally would
be born in here's how you break down the basic
white girls.
Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Oh god, Esther is.
Speaker 5 (01:53:19):
Esther normally would have gray short, grandma hair uh huh,
salt and pepper yep and be short. Born nineteen thirty four.
And it's a been in the family's name for all
they've done is changed the middle nest. It's been around forever.
I couldn't believe she'll name her daughter Savannah. Esther Es
(01:53:42):
will be in the name where to pay a tribute
to great great grandma.
Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
And she's as white as the driven snow. I think
their daughter friend's lucent. She's so white.
Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
They had Robert Jr. Was their son's name, and then
their daughter's name was Bianca. And the mom's name is Esther.
Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
Yeah, you know what, there's only one. Now, maybe there
is more, but in my life, Esther's have always been
It sounds like an old I mean, so who's lived
a great life. And you want to go eat dinner
at Esther's house because she makes Grandma makes the greatest.
She's got the biscuits and gravy on the planet. I
got the couch covers.
Speaker 14 (01:54:12):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
And the only Esther that I can remember. And maybe
there's probably a million. Yeah, but we're kind of doing
this tongue in cheeks, as we always do. I'm sure
there's a a brother that's a Homer, not a white guy, right,
maybe not triple you know any brother's name Homer? No, okay.
And a guy who recruited me was one of the
great coaches of all time. Office was Sean Homer Smith.
(01:54:34):
White guy, white guy. Oh yeah, pants pulled up at
higher Esther, Esther roll really from good times.
Speaker 27 (01:54:42):
Look as matter of fact, tripley, could you get that
cut forest maybe coming back and attribute to good times
because good times coming up in the nine good times
for the uh, good times for the Texans, hopefully good
times for the Astros.
Speaker 5 (01:54:56):
They'll pull something off here and it'll be good. But
Esther roll in the rockets to the semis in the NBA,
you know, don't bury the league exactly in their asshole, right, don't.
And they're winning a role, they're winning a lot of
different ways. That may be the only but there's probably
somebody in here who has a maybe. But Esther feels
it's like Zelda. That's an old.
Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
That's that's a that's an old, that's a that's like
a pre nineteen fifty name.
Speaker 12 (01:55:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:55:18):
Yeah, I couldn't believe it because we had had this
discussion about like basic white women name, basic white guy names.
Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
Find me a Tricksy that was born in nineteen thirty Tricksy, Yeah,
I mean you could find her. She'll be performing in
about noon today.
Speaker 6 (01:55:30):
Star, You're up next, Star, You're up Next.
Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
On deck is Trixy Trixy.
Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
Trixy Head to the main stage, Trixy to the main
stage your waitresses.
Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
That's so triggered. Right next up for the men's club.
Speaker 5 (01:55:46):
If that, if somebody comes up to hes, Oh, what's
your name, Trixy? Are you not sideyn or like you am?
Like like you're at dinner, and I'll say, she's sitting
in the bar, I am trick. This is this is
my girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Like, oh yeah, She's like, what do you mean, oh ballet, Hey,
I'm on dader. Oh she's only doing to get through
med school.
Speaker 14 (01:56:03):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
Put some respect, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:56:08):
Esther role may be the only, but it's a that's
a that's an old school in the family name. I
would imagine forever esther my mom, Shirley Anne Sureley's an
old school, an old school name. My grandmother was Nicki
Bell Eagle. Naomi is her name. They called her Nicky,
my grandma and Nicki Mike. My dad called her Nicky
(01:56:30):
nick But my grandma and my dad was six five
two sixty. My grandma Nicky called him Shorty because he.
Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Was so big.
Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
That's she got shoddy right now. She called him Shorty
forever really, so from the from the time I was
born to Mike, Mike, she loves my dad right six.
My dad was my size, but two sixty five, you know,
just a big jud and she called him shorty. You
nine kids in the family when he was but he
was the youngest, you know, she called him shorty always.
But she's now You tell me this isn't as old
(01:56:57):
school name in the family. Naomi Bell Eagle, Naomi Bell.
Speaker 6 (01:57:04):
That was her name, Naomi Belle Eagle.
Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
Nicknamed nick Nikki.
Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
I mean you go through it and there's and and
find me in Naomi.
Speaker 6 (01:57:13):
And maybe there isom Campbell.
Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Yeah born.
Speaker 5 (01:57:15):
No, I'm not talking about I was talking about born
like after two thousand. Anybody naming their kid Naomi? Right, yeah,
probably not. Maybe there is, but if it, but you're
only name it if it runs in the family. It's
a legacy name, right, So it's yeah, Naomi Bell Eagle
old school name.
Speaker 6 (01:57:29):
That is old school man, because I don't know any naomis.
Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
I know one.
Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
I went to college with her. There you go, yeah,
that's it. So yeah, Esther, Esther, I couldn't believe it, dude,
Oh my god, it's actually real. Esther Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
Seven one three, two one two five seven ninety got
a lot of people that want to get in and
talk about Kyle Tucker. Will get to you guys next
as we start the nine o'clock hour right here on
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
To USC truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima, Manuel Elmore, Rockets beat the Warriors
are headed to Vegas for the semifinals of the NBA Cup.
Texans safety Jalen Petrie out for the season with the
pectoral Andrew bill Belichick is the new head football coach
at the University of North Carolina. Talking about Kyle Tucker,
Alex Bregman, the Winter Meetings, free agency full phone board.
Let's get to everybody seven one three, two, one two
(01:58:51):
five seven ninety. We'll start with our guy Brandon.
Speaker 5 (01:58:53):
Hello, Brandon, Good morning, Brian, Shawn Tier two. Come on now,
let's start this over.
Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
What's that Brandon under?
Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Okay, I'm I I decided the Wackets won.
Speaker 5 (01:59:07):
Yeah, hell of a game. Huh. Big win for them?
Speaker 28 (01:59:10):
Yep, ninety I think it was ninety one.
Speaker 5 (01:59:13):
I think yeah, they had what there was ninety Yes,
scored ninety one point. A couple free throws at the
end got the win for him and a good stop
on defense. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
I didn't watch it, but I will watch it on
the we play if you can check.
Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
But you know, you check with what Siri or Amazon,
whatever it is you want to do, you'll you can
get that answer. If you don't watch it, that's a
smart way to do.
Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
But we'll watching your team.
Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
Yeah, the semi finals, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
Are we playing the Thunder Saturday?
Speaker 15 (01:59:44):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:59:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
Is it Saturday?
Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
Because it's Yeah, that's exactly who they played my man
spot on yeh, I think the Do you think the uh?
You think the Texans beat the Miami Dolphins on Sunday?
Speaker 26 (01:59:56):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:59:57):
They will like your confidence, like your I hope so
be a good start to this three game run here,
tough three game run. Good stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:00:05):
Brandon, who's your favorite reindeer?
Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Waen the Rudolf Damn Ryan?
Speaker 5 (02:00:11):
So I'm talking about Brandon Rudolphine hesitation, No, big go Brandon,
Thank you brother. I hope you have a great night
and good stuff on the rockets. Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 6 (02:00:19):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 17 (02:00:20):
Brandon, have a good thank you too.
Speaker 6 (02:00:23):
Let's talk to John.
Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
What's up John?
Speaker 14 (02:00:26):
Hey, fellas, fellas, how y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (02:00:29):
Great?
Speaker 14 (02:00:31):
Hey Man? Look, you know I love the way I've
never had any complaints about the way Crane does his
system because, frankly, I've never believed in a very very
few people players I believe in giving a ten year
contract too, because very very few of them are great
for ten years. You know, Gregman and Kyle Tucker. Kyle
(02:00:51):
Tuck is really my favorite player. He was from day one,
even when I was hearing about him in Triple A
and I for some reason, I always had feeling that
Kyle was not gonna be here, and especially if he
turned out to be a pretty really good play and
the way the money is out there now after one Soto,
you know, I don't expect Kyle to be here. Kyle
(02:01:12):
got a championship, Reglan got two championships. You know, if
I was in there shoes, the smart move is say, hey,
I got my championships. Now I need to get my money,
so you know, go ahead on but this is my
point I'm making here. Dana Brown, Okay, Dana Brown last season, Okay,
he signed what's that closing name? Man, see, I don't
remember his name. That's how I feel about it. Josh Yeah,
(02:01:35):
Josh Hater, Josh Hater. Now, I don't know, I know
me and I think a lot of people we were
totally surprised Daniel Brown bust out and signed Hater because
most of us didn't think that at that particular time
that our top priority was that we needed a closer
because Preston would have had a few injuries, but Press
(02:01:56):
had been doing just fine for us. So anyway, he signed,
he signed Josh Hayden. We know what he was trying
to do. Have Josh Hayden. Those have presh to come
in the eight inning and uh uh the other kid
come in the seven in it. But it didn't work
out like that. And when we look at it and everything,
the money that they paid Josh haden what Josh Sayden
(02:02:19):
wasn't the close that came in and just shut things down. Man,
he was he was Okay, he gave up a lot
of games in the ninety and and he won some,
he gave some, but that that for us.
Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
I'm concerned personally.
Speaker 14 (02:02:33):
You know that that was kind of a failure on
that on Dana Brown. But this is the point now
this year to me, Dana Brown, this is your first year,
sir as the general manager. Crane brought you here to
keep this train rolling, baby, And if Tucker and Bregman
(02:02:54):
is gone, your job now as a great general runt
manager is to bring in some talent keep this train going.
You know this is on Dana Brown man. You know
he's got to keep going. It is now his job.
Last year he brought in gambled, He brought in a
couple of other players, trying to get some guys to
(02:03:16):
be able to hit out there. And I be he
just kicked the tap here and Dad, but.
Speaker 6 (02:03:20):
John, sorry to get to a couple of guys that man.
Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (02:03:26):
Let's talk to Gill before we get to break Gil.
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (02:03:29):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
So?
Speaker 12 (02:03:31):
Uh correct me if I'm wrong? Didn't his Tucker's brother
put the put his brother, little brother Tucker.
Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
Well, Preston Tucker, older brother Preston Tucker. Yes, what about him?
Speaker 12 (02:03:44):
He kept putting, He kept putting Tucker in the astro's ear.
Why would why would Tucker. What's god damn, what's his name?
Speaker 27 (02:03:52):
Now?
Speaker 12 (02:03:52):
What's the new one?
Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
There's Preston Tucker is the one that was drafted by
the Astros.
Speaker 6 (02:03:56):
That's the old one. And then there's Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Wow, okayy.
Speaker 12 (02:04:00):
Why would he let him do that so the Astros
would go get him if he didn't really want to
be here? Because I remember securely that Preston kept saying,
you'll better get my little brother. You better get beat
think I'm good, y'all, better get my little brother.
Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
You mean drafting if you're drafting Kyle Tucker. Yes, yeah,
Preston Tucker was terrible with the Astros.
Speaker 14 (02:04:19):
He I think he had a heavy back.
Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
But you know, no, he was not very good. That's
why he went and played in Korea, I think. But
either way, but either way, I mean, you were not
going to pass up on drafting Kyle Tucker back then
like that.
Speaker 6 (02:04:32):
He was a different right place.
Speaker 12 (02:04:34):
What I'm saying is, why would Kyle let his brother
put keep putting him in his in the Astros? Ear,
go get my little brother, go get if he didn't
really want to come here.
Speaker 6 (02:04:42):
No, that's not I think you're you're confused.
Speaker 5 (02:04:44):
He he want.
Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
I mean, if you're gonna get drafted number one or
two or three or whatever it was, overall, you're gonna
go where the destination is and then you're gonna play
out your rookie contract. And maybe there's some things that happen,
you know, for Kyle Tucker being here in the city
that he didn't want to be, and he's gonna just
finish out his rookie career or rookie contract, try and
be as good as he can be, and then get
a contract to go play somewhere else. We don't know,
(02:05:05):
but I don't think his brother had anything to do
with you were there. The Astros were gonna draft him regardless.
Speaker 12 (02:05:11):
Oh okay, I didn't know. You know who Tucker Kyle was.
His brother started no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (02:05:16):
Kyle was like one of the most coveted uh prospects
of high school.
Speaker 12 (02:05:21):
Oh yeah, all right, And anyway, and I have an
old buddy of friend. His name is or Reel. He's
always pissed off. I wonder why he's like eighty six
years old or what is it? Or his name is Orriel.
Speaker 17 (02:05:35):
So you know, I thought my buddies, like why is
why is over always mad?
Speaker 12 (02:05:39):
Who God Dame gets grew up with the name over
I do you feel spell and spell it for me?
Speaker 11 (02:05:45):
I don't like or real red Rock.
Speaker 5 (02:05:49):
I thought you were saying Oriole. I mean like the
Orville or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
Yeah, a white But.
Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
I'm gonna tell you what your name recognition on this
call absolutely sucked at you got you got Kyle Tucker,
John Tucker, Tucker, booth uh Walker.
Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
Yeah, yeah, mother Tucker.
Speaker 14 (02:06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
Now you can't pronounce Orville. Get the hell off on
waives love you. Gil is Orville.
Speaker 5 (02:06:22):
I was gonna say that could and if you look
at Orville Reddenbacker on the popcorn, Yeah, the ultimate white guy.
Ultimate born in like eighteen seventy, uh huh, okay, whister
the test of time. It's kind of like Colonel Sanders.
Speaker 2 (02:06:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:06:41):
They were like tight growing up right. I don't know
if they were. But Orville, Yeah is Oh that that's
that's Whitey on the moon Man.
Speaker 6 (02:06:50):
Couldn't couldn't, couldn't. Oriole was Preston.
Speaker 5 (02:06:55):
Who's the new one?
Speaker 15 (02:06:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:06:56):
Yeah, the new one.
Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
Preston Wilson became rest.
Speaker 4 (02:07:00):
In Tucker won a brother one not By the way,
Kyle Tucker, coming out of high school was the Gator
Ready Player of the Year for Florida.
Speaker 6 (02:07:07):
He was picked fifth overall.
Speaker 5 (02:07:09):
Yeah, he was pretty good. He's been pretty good since
he waltzed in here. After about the first hundred at
bats in the Astros he started to catch fire. On
The rest is history. Yeah, the rest is history. Uh,
in his career here is probably history. I would say
you're probably right about that.
Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
Seven one, three, two, two five seven and got got
a lot of people want to get in. We'll get
to you guys next. Talk about these uh these you
know reports, the trade rumors for Kyle Tucker. Apparently the
Phillies are now discussing a package with the Astros to
try to get Kyle Tucker. So we'll see what that's
about as well. Next shotgun.
Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
With someone who's thrown from the shotgun football and what
helmet to helmet? Sewan Salisbury, Brian, you want to see
what real football looks like. This is the Sean Salisbury
Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:08:00):
You see how it goes. That's pretty spot on.
Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
And then they did they charge you seventy tip in
your hose and then at the bill time all your homies.
Speaker 4 (02:08:07):
Yeah, yeah, like oh it either man over here you
gotta get out of here.
Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
Hey, I got you.
Speaker 6 (02:08:15):
Yeah, mo Dog, I'll see you back at the house.
Speaker 4 (02:08:18):
Yeah, to get back out to the phone line seven
one three seven, Jesse, good morning, Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
I think you took my call.
Speaker 29 (02:08:27):
So I was thinking about this, and the only reason
that Dana Brown should be talking to the Yankees is
to drive up the price on the other teams. Right anyway,
having Kyle Tucker bat in front of Aaron Judge for the.
Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
Future would be a travesty.
Speaker 13 (02:08:51):
And I just want to get your thoughts on that,
and I'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 6 (02:08:53):
Thank you, Jesse.
Speaker 4 (02:08:54):
I said this earlier, Sean, I don't give a damn
where they trade him. Honestly, this may not be a
popular opinion, but I don't give it. You know what,
if the Yankees are going to give the best package,
the best haul for Kyle Tucker, send them to the Bronx,
I don't give a damn. Yeah, if they give us
three or four of their top prospects or Luis Gill
or Yale or however he pronounces damn last night, heel
(02:09:17):
plus an everyday guy, and they're really good players, bring him.
I don't care at this point I'm doing I don't care.
Give us the best return. And here's what help send
them the Rangers. I don't give a damn.
Speaker 5 (02:09:27):
Here's what the front office can't do. Yeah, Now, during
a season, you wouldn't trade like in football, you ain't
trade a great player in the division. Yeah, you tried,
unless they give you an off you can't refuse, like
let's say, trade deadline football wide receivers in the division.
You're trading somebody to get somebody. It's like, well, man,
we win big on this, we'll give up. Let's do
it right. But most of the time you don't in
this case, and I understand the callers disdained from the Yankees,
(02:09:50):
but there's not There's no chance in hell that the
front office is thinking who's the person, I mean, who's
the team. They're thinking, what's the team got right exactly?
You're not because if now, let's just say the Phillies
and the Yankees both offer the exact you feel like
it's a it's a lateral move no matter which team
you deal with, right, if you want right, you keep Maddy.
(02:10:12):
You're the only time you really see him when it
really really matters. In the World Series, and if you
want to stick it to somebody a little bit of that.
If you're into that a little bit, you can get
a dig in. You're not getting the dig in or
keeping them away. If it's the best offer, if the
Yankees coming and blow everybody else away, I don't give
a fuzzy rats ass who if the Yankees and the
Yankees can brag about it forever if we get a
(02:10:34):
good deal about it, great now situation. And I assure,
and he makes a good point as that, that's we
can't think. If you're a front office, you can't think
like us and the fans. The front office has got
to be able to separate themselves from it's the Yankees.
I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
Well, didn't they give you the best offer?
Speaker 7 (02:10:51):
You have it?
Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
I hate the Yankees.
Speaker 5 (02:10:52):
A front general manager owner can't think that, what's the
best deal that enhances our team? I don't give a
damn about them. Once he's out the building, I give
a damn about us. What's the return if it's if
the the r o I is bigger with the Yankees
than it is with Philly or Boston or anybody else.
He's the Yankee right fielder.
Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
Yeah, man and then and then then the Yankees would
have two guys that disappear in October.
Speaker 6 (02:11:15):
Crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:11:16):
There you go, it's crazy, that's harsh, But that's true though.
And if they and if both of them play like
they do in the regular season the.
Speaker 4 (02:11:23):
Yanks World Series, then it comes back to my thought process. Look,
but it helps improve the organization then, But.
Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
I do get the fan base's of motion. Do whatever
you do. Don't trade him there. But can you imagine
what the fan base would say, is if they said, well,
we offered him our first in our third prospect plus
two players, and you dealt with somebody else because it
was the Yankees, we'd go crazyis oh?
Speaker 6 (02:11:45):
Absolutely, yeah, would There's no doubt Tony.
Speaker 18 (02:11:49):
Good morning, Good morning guys. Kyle Tucker's from Tampa, Florida. Correct,
Tampa's getting a new Tampa's getting a new ballpark. I
think it's on online in twenty seven or twenty eight.
The obvious choice here is to trade him to Tampa Bay.
I said last offseason, we had three chips. We had
we had Valdiez, we had Tucker, and we had Regman.
(02:12:10):
And the only one that I think they might consider
keeping would be Valdez because he's a left handed pitcher.
But we missed on Bregman. That's one ship that's gone.
He's gone now if you don't trade Tucker in this offseason.
John said earlier about keeping things rolling, it's not just
about the draft because you're you've been drafting.
Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
Low low low for years.
Speaker 18 (02:12:31):
You got to be creative here, and if you don't
pull the trigger on the you're going to be in
the same boat with Tucker this time next year as
you are with Bregman. I promise you he's not staying so,
so you've got to pull the trigger on a deal.
I would trade him to Tampa Bay because.
Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
They have pitching.
Speaker 18 (02:12:48):
I would get some pitching man pitching wins championships. I
think the melting kid down at you know, it's not
he's not a sure thing, but the kid is a
He's a potential leadoff hitter man. I would love to
get al Tuo Bay out of the leadoff spot and
get him in the two hole. Get us a legitimate
center fielder that can go get the ball and hit
and run, which I think Jacob Melton fits that. Bill
(02:13:11):
and I also would keep an eye on Bryce Matthews
and uh, the Yonick kid from from sam Houston as
the catcher starting mot playing dias. Play him a lot
in spring at first base, play him a lot at
first base.
Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
I don't think he's the future behind the plague. That's
all I got, guys.
Speaker 4 (02:13:28):
Thank you, Tony good points Man. Yeah, I love the
the kid that got from sam Houston. That kid is
is supposed to be a monster.
Speaker 5 (02:13:34):
He's to be really good hose, which would free which
would free up the versatility of a guy like Karatini.
And if he gets it, he's got what. He's got
a hose that he's also got a good arm. Yeah, yeah,
I got that. Late guy's got a hose. And oh,
by the way, he's got a great arm. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:13:53):
A child, Manuel, I mean, grow up dude.
Speaker 5 (02:13:56):
Yeah. The only the crazy thing about it, the youngest
guy on the that is the most story, is the
most mature of all of us. And and the natural
progression is at some point in time, Yan ord Is
is your first baseman, right, yeah, I'm not talking about
next year, but the natural the Joe, I mean Piazza,
Joe Mauer. If you're a good hitter and you want
(02:14:17):
to preserve it, you try to milk about five or
six All star years that I'm gonna get your ask
the first base. And if you have a great catcher
backing you up and a young one, get him there sooner, right,
you just do.
Speaker 4 (02:14:28):
Apparently the organization's high on this kid from Sam Houston,
John I've done.
Speaker 27 (02:14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:14:32):
I think Steve Sparks has talked about him and held
him high regards to YEA.
Speaker 6 (02:14:37):
Kid can kid can swing it, and he's got a.
Speaker 5 (02:14:40):
Tell you, tell you he can swing it. And he's
also got a really good bat. Brian's an idiot. What
a hose by the way, I you've seen his arm
and yeah, but I'll tell you what, man, when he's
at the plate, he got a hold.
Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
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Speaker 5 (02:15:01):
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The Seawn Salisbury Show continued, He's a base white guy.
Speaker 5 (02:17:30):
No, it's like tuck your tuck your table between your legs.
Tuck you're having to legs cause you ask you by
right later. He's an easy guy to wish well, no
matter where he goes. The one thing about it, does
he ever bother anybody?
Speaker 2 (02:17:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:17:43):
He just great player who just kind of goes about
his business. Whoever gets him is gonna be awful lucky.
Speaker 6 (02:17:48):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:17:49):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (02:17:49):
Give him a five tool player man.
Speaker 5 (02:17:51):
And they hope he has like a really good season
right here, just not a great one because it'll go
from three fifty to about four hun undred.
Speaker 6 (02:17:57):
Yeah, ye, crazy money man, Wesley, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
Oh? Just another beautiful day in lake Charles?
Speaker 6 (02:18:05):
Oh jealous man at the casino, man, Yeah, jealous.
Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Well that's where it works though.
Speaker 30 (02:18:10):
Oh yeah, I'm passing patsor Penderson right now on two ten.
Speaker 6 (02:18:15):
Okay, what caino do you work? What casino?
Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
The only one of late Charles the nugget of course?
Speaker 4 (02:18:22):
Good yeah, good answer. I don't know, man, I like
the horse shoe on the other side, man, it's not
bad well, if.
Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
You're looking for a trailer, that's where you go.
Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Damn right.
Speaker 4 (02:18:30):
I love lower class casinos. Find all our tables, got
my got my name written all over it. Not too
proud to beg for the five dollars table. There's no
I love the gold ruget, man, there's no doubt.
Speaker 12 (02:18:40):
Man.
Speaker 6 (02:18:40):
I was just there a couple of weeks ago. Actually,
you go, what's on your mind, my man?
Speaker 30 (02:18:44):
Yeah, yeah, guys, I was just I haven't heard it,
you know, much about how the front office screwed up
the whole Tucker deal over the past two years. You know,
I really believe they could have signed him for like
an eight year, one fifty one sixty, you know, for
the past two years, but it just kept kicking the
can down the road. And it's it's just frustrating, you
know when they you know, I mean Tucker, he has
(02:19:05):
no reason to stay.
Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
I mean, they screwed him an arbitration.
Speaker 30 (02:19:08):
He made well at twelve or fifty million last year,
you know, you know because of the arbitration, you know,
and you know, it's just things like that that people
aren't really talking about. It's you know, it's it's the
front office making all.
Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
These bonehead moves.
Speaker 30 (02:19:21):
It's not that they can't keep Tucker. They chose to
take a chance. And the longer you wait, the more
expensive it gets. And that that's to me, that's what's frustrating.
You just can't keep keeping like the whole like with
Soda sign and his zal that just made it more expensive.
Speaker 2 (02:19:34):
And it is this every year just adds on and
adds on and adds on. You know, it's frustrating as
a fan.
Speaker 5 (02:19:40):
Yeah, you know what this has become, like it or not,
it's become. Instead of being proactive early, they've been reactive
late and that's.
Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
What it is.
Speaker 30 (02:19:49):
Yeah, and it's crazy, you know, and you know they
you think about it, you know, they could have I
mean I really think they could have you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:19:56):
Bregman is a pregnant I mean you can't knew much
about that now.
Speaker 30 (02:19:59):
But like but Tucker, they God, they could have find
Tucker that could have been public kept Kakuchi, you know,
was with the money.
Speaker 2 (02:20:07):
And it's just so frustrating as a fan. You know,
as a quote unquote unquote mid market.
Speaker 30 (02:20:12):
Team, you know you have the talent to keep, but
you know, just to the front office decisions that they
don't get criticized enough for the actions that they take.
Speaker 5 (02:20:21):
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (02:20:22):
Good point, good point, Weston. Appreciate you. Let's keep rolling.
Seven three seven ninety Mike, thanks for holding.
Speaker 6 (02:20:29):
Good morning.
Speaker 24 (02:20:31):
What's up, fellows.
Speaker 12 (02:20:32):
How you doing, Sean By, how's it going great? Well's
I want to talk about the Rockets win last night,
But first Sea about your comments earlier with the name
Esther Man.
Speaker 15 (02:20:42):
You hit the nail right on the on that head
with that.
Speaker 12 (02:20:46):
My grandma was born in nineteen thirty two, and then
she had my mom and her name was Esther, and
she named my mom was born in nineteen fifty Esther Rude.
Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
And I just thought that was so I I.
Speaker 5 (02:21:01):
Perfect names together too, Esther and Ruth. They go into
Esther Ruth, and that is that's like a three nineteen
forty name. It is, like I said, and you just
you know, it's like a legacy name that this Graham
on that ground and it's awesome. But that is one
of those names you're not waking up more than likely,
unless it's a legacy, you're not waking up in twenty
twenty four. You know, I think I'll name my kid
(02:21:22):
Esther Ruth it's just it really is like an old
school name.
Speaker 11 (02:21:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:21:25):
Nothing wrong with it, but it's a little old school,
that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (02:21:30):
Uh, what was I gonna say?
Speaker 1 (02:21:32):
The Rockets Wait, it was a good glos keep on.
Speaker 12 (02:21:35):
Social media are already crying about the rest. I think
the rest were equally bad both sides, and we just
got lucky at the end when I just want to
get y'all take on that and.
Speaker 1 (02:21:44):
Not hang up.
Speaker 6 (02:21:45):
Appreciate you, Mike.
Speaker 4 (02:21:47):
Yeah, we we played the audio of Steve Kerr whinding
and complaining about the referees. That's one of those late calls.
But you know, let him bitch, let them, let him complain,
because excuse me. The Rockets, no there took them down
ninety one ninety first time in uh four years. They
beat the Warriors alprin Shangoon is a walking double double
(02:22:08):
twenty six and eleven for uh Shngoon last night. So
they'll play the Oklahoma City Thunder in Vegas on Saturday
night in the NBA Cup semi.
Speaker 5 (02:22:16):
In the other semi that I haven't lost the Hawks.
Speaker 6 (02:22:19):
And let me double check. Let's take a look at it.
Speaker 4 (02:22:24):
Saturday nights over Innviva Las Vegas, it's the Atlanta Hawks
and the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 5 (02:22:33):
Hawks and Bucks. Okay, yeah, Hawks and Bucks. Man, Like
was it last night of the night before? Jannis had
a vicious dunk with a left hand off the dribble.
Speaker 2 (02:22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:22:41):
Oh it was like one of those quick jump dunks,
you know what I'm saying, And it was it was nasty.
Speaker 12 (02:22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:22:46):
Yeah, that's uh so, Hawks, Bucks, Oklahoma City and yeah,
and the Rockets. Yeah, don't take it if you're if
you're the the Rockets, don't take a deep breath, man,
go finish this thing, right.
Speaker 4 (02:22:58):
Yeah, no doubt man, especially with that quick dunk by
uh By Jannis Antetokumbo, want you you know quick? Yeah, yeah,
quickly dunk down on these nuts. Yeah, dunk out of
these honest Ryan. We got forty five seconds for you man.
Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
All right. So I used to djate the silk stocking.
There was a tricksy there.
Speaker 13 (02:23:20):
You did.
Speaker 5 (02:23:20):
What did you really over in college station? You did
the TRICKSIEJJ yeah okay, yeah, gentlemen, So here we go.
Speaker 2 (02:23:33):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (02:23:34):
Trick Okay, since you DJ, I need you to tell
me trixies on deck and she's up next.
Speaker 1 (02:23:41):
We just walked in the.
Speaker 5 (02:23:43):
Star Stars on our way to the main stage and
Trixies on deck.
Speaker 1 (02:23:48):
How yeah, I would give us, give us that.
Speaker 31 (02:23:52):
All right, guys, get your dollar bills ready, here comes Tricksy.
Speaker 5 (02:24:00):
I have done that, but the way he carries out Tricksy,
oh my god, say this.
Speaker 16 (02:24:08):
Yeah, when you do that, though, it ruins the illusion.
Speaker 2 (02:24:11):
I can't stay in the places now.
Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
Man, Tricksy, Tricksy you yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:24:19):
Come on, got forty five seconds'll be real quick.
Speaker 6 (02:24:21):
Well you're actually over what you got because of us.
Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
I really, I just want to say. I want to say.
I want to say I really appreciate you guys.
Speaker 31 (02:24:29):
I've been listening for a long time, and I feel
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as I've gotten older, you know, I don't see my
friends all the time, and being able to hang out
with you guys every morning, I really appreciate it, and
I think, I think y'all are awesome, and I just
I consider y'all friends. Be able to hang out and
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not calling all the time.
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But I just want to say thank y'all very much.
Speaker 5 (02:24:55):
Thank you, Ryan, Ryan on deck trix to the state.
He's what a what a great compliment. Yeah, thank you
very much. That's not the ones that we don't. We
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Speaker 11 (02:25:07):
I know that.
Speaker 6 (02:25:08):
Yeah, man, there's no doubt.
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I put him on the spot and the answered the bell.
I love Yeah, awesome, all right, fellas, get your dollar
bills already. Stars on the main stage.
Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
Tricksy.
Speaker 5 (02:25:17):
You're up next, Tricksy, but the tricksy to the main
stage with the little music bed someumping behind you.
Speaker 1 (02:25:24):
You're up next to the main stage, tricksy.
Speaker 4 (02:25:30):
Oh my gosh. Seven seven ninety is the number to
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Speaker 6 (02:26:50):
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Speaker 5 (02:27:21):
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Speaker 6 (02:27:31):
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Speaker 14 (02:27:36):
Yeah?
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Memory? Could you just give me the exact address because
I know you have that memorized too, Johnny Ron.
Speaker 28 (02:27:42):
Hey, bron, How was that call? How's your cough man?
Speaker 2 (02:27:44):
You're doing better on your call and everything? You're feeling better?
Speaker 4 (02:27:48):
He worried about No, I feel like he's he's you know,
he's about to say cough on these nuts, or he's
gonna say something he ain't the genuine.
Speaker 6 (02:27:53):
Right now, get them nuts.
Speaker 5 (02:27:56):
I told you I knew it. See I told you,
I told you. What's your comment on?
Speaker 8 (02:28:01):
Check it out?
Speaker 5 (02:28:02):
So we been checking it out for a minute. Fifteen, John,
let's go, man, we're looking.
Speaker 1 (02:28:13):
Country bumpkin ass.
Speaker 9 (02:28:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 28 (02:28:15):
Why John Sean said it right. Everybody's not listening and hearing.
He may not want to come back to the astros
number one. Number two. People have been saying, why they wait,
why they wait?
Speaker 2 (02:28:27):
You have to remember something to people.
Speaker 28 (02:28:29):
These guys, these players have people in their ears. It's
called agents, it's called parents, it's called friends and family. Man,
don't sign these deals. Old Kanye's gotta sign his deal.
Solsia's gotta sign his deal. They're looking for the money.
Speaker 2 (02:28:45):
Kyle Turkey, you want to go.
Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
To Chicago, tear your ass on.
Speaker 28 (02:28:49):
Southwest Airlines will tear your ass over there.
Speaker 2 (02:28:53):
You don't want to be here, then, don't Okay? Break
mean the same thing.
Speaker 28 (02:28:57):
I think Breakman's going to Boston.
Speaker 2 (02:28:58):
I said that a few weeks ago.
Speaker 28 (02:29:01):
But everybody's you know, y'all want to be in an
uproar about management and ownership not doing their job.
Speaker 2 (02:29:08):
Call them, tell them you're willing.
Speaker 28 (02:29:11):
To spend more money on seats concessions. T shirts, caps, parking, whatever.
If you're willing to spend that more money, let them know.
Speaker 15 (02:29:26):
Let Crane know.
Speaker 1 (02:29:27):
It's gonna fall on death ears.
Speaker 28 (02:29:28):
But Sean, let me ask you this, Now, who do
you think is gonna win the Heisman?
Speaker 5 (02:29:35):
I think it's gonna be Hunter, and I think gent
should be first.
Speaker 28 (02:29:39):
Thank you very much. Hey, wajo any about to sit
there and says, Travis Hunter is the best player in
the nation. Have lost their damn ound.
Speaker 5 (02:29:48):
The top five. I think he's the prospect prospect, not
one of the best. Top corner.
Speaker 28 (02:29:54):
He's a top he's a good corner.
Speaker 14 (02:29:57):
But I can tell you this.
Speaker 28 (02:29:58):
Let him go up against nie go or uh uh
some of the cat the cat up in uh C. Yeah,
let him go up against the six foot two, six
foot three and ten pound wide receivers. You gonna get
his one hundred and sixty pound ass put on the ground.
Speaker 5 (02:30:14):
There you go, hey real quick?
Speaker 1 (02:30:16):
No, I mean, yeah, it's gonna happen, but.
Speaker 5 (02:30:19):
He's probably gonna win it. But I'd vote Genty first,
and I think I would. I would say I would
take Hunter in the top five in the NFL draft.
But I Genty to me did more in college foot.
I'm not about the versatility. I'm just about as a
player this year, considering I would I would vote for him. Hey,
real quick, so you mentioned concessions, Just real quick? Yes
or no? Would you concede to the uh, to the
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astros to to raise ticket prices and stuff to keep guy?
Are you conceding.
Speaker 1 (02:30:49):
Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (02:30:50):
Honestly I will honestly, yeah, I'm being serious. Would you
concede the higher tickets? Yes? Yes, all right, will do
me a favor while I can side these nothing on
your forehead. I love Johnny Roger.
Speaker 4 (02:31:07):
We got we carved out about Yeah, we carved out
about a minute for your brother.
Speaker 6 (02:31:10):
Thanks for holding what's going on?
Speaker 15 (02:31:13):
Nothing?
Speaker 8 (02:31:14):
Man?
Speaker 32 (02:31:14):
Let me let me erase the chalkbow while I'm trying
to find my zekevrichis Jesus man anyway? Uh so, yeah,
on the after the Bregant, if they would have, if
they're so hot to trot and these guys we're talking
to this, we're talking to him, we're moving him. They
haven't moved Jack Squat yet because they haven't found the
right deal yet. So all this is just what it
(02:31:34):
is talk conjecture. I mean, if that hasn't happened. Yet
then this hasn't happened. They haven't found the right deal
because we're not giving away that these guys were just
you know Pittons.
Speaker 12 (02:31:44):
These guys are gonna happen.
Speaker 32 (02:31:45):
They're gonna get It's gonna make it hurt, just like
it made it hurt what we love when we signed
to Tucci.
Speaker 8 (02:31:50):
So it is what it is, matter until it's not.
So everyber all that talk is just what it is,
a bunch of talk.
Speaker 5 (02:31:57):
Hit him straight man, and and you know it while
it is talk, and that that's what makes for good radio.
We're all mantering about what ifs, and at some point
when somebody makes the right deal, Kyle Tucker will be traded. Yeah,
pretty simple, man. Would you think God, who's you said?
Can see?
Speaker 6 (02:32:13):
Like four times He's like, yeah, I can see.
Speaker 1 (02:32:16):
Au Tripley got his ass.
Speaker 6 (02:32:23):
Ye, Hey we got we have Festive Friday tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (02:32:27):
Yeah, I'm right. Who doesn't love it? I need you
in the spirit, though, Let's get you in the spirit.
Speaker 1 (02:32:32):
I've been We're going to get you in the spirit.
Speaker 14 (02:32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:32:35):
Dana Tyson, producer Anthony every morning damn grits. Yeah, right
across the hall man, good stuff. Today, great insight from
our callers. Honestly, we had some phenomenal insight and a
lot of differing opinion, which I do like as well.
Speaker 4 (02:32:48):
Fester Friday. Tomorrow, we'll also talk Texans and Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (02:32:51):
Big, big, huge break, a well deep dive into the
Texans tomorrow. And the only thing that will disrupt that
is if Bregman or Tucker moved between now and then,
but it won't disrup We'll still.
Speaker 1 (02:33:00):
Get it in.
Speaker 8 (02:33:01):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (02:33:01):
Jalen Petrie, that's a big one we're gonna cover as well.
He's out for the season.
Speaker 5 (02:33:04):
Yeah, that and he was having a Pro Bowl year.
Speaker 6 (02:33:07):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 4 (02:33:08):
So we got a big show for you guys tomorrow,
so make sure to tune in. Start at six o'clock.
He is Sean Salisbury. Our producer is Triple Emmanuel Elmore.
I'm Brian Lilma. Thank you for listening. The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross is next on seven ninety
Saulsbury old by Houston.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Shawn Salisbury to USC true longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Shawn Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Your Houston Rockets take down the Warriors. They're headed to
the semifinals of the NBA Cup in Vegas. Bill Belichick,
the new head coach at the University of North Carolina,
got some Thursday night football action tonight in the NFL.
It's the Los Angeles Rams taken on the San Francisco
(00:42):
forty nine ers. MLB Winter meetings coming to a close.
So many reports, rumors, hot Stove about Kyle Tucker, Alex Bregman,
Sewn tripley, good morning was a.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Little bit of shit goo, Jalen Green knocking down Charity stripes,
Jabari Smith pumping home fifteen beating the Golden State Warriors
for the first time since eighteen forty. Yeah, you know
we talk about chips, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Go get a cup, Go get a cup.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
He's not just chips about cup a cup and uh,
Golden State.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know what they'll roll up in here.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Don't roll up in here, your punk asses back, take
your take your back to the left coast.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Take your championship window that closed down. I have Steve
Kurz talk about politics and get your ass out of town.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He bitched, moaning complain per usual after the game last night.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Well well wait a second, you wait, you're telling me honestly? Yeah,
you know the key here, Jayalen Green had less than
fifteen points last night and still knock down those free throws.
That's see, That's where I know that they're getting so
much better. Is when you're a star player and shan
guns sh gun double double weight and happen held a
triple double weight to happen? Would they do at the
end block a shot? Now that Hey, your best player
(02:03):
scores lesson I mean score scores less than fifteen consistent
player and he's really Jaden Green's a star in the making.
He they he knocks down two free throws. So even
though he's not playing his best game, still knocks down
two free throws. I'll let you know the effect him.
The game's under one hundred, so you know you've got
to defend and then they defend the last one. Get
back down on defense and defend the last shot. So
(02:25):
as Steve kirkham Fitch and complaint. Oh, of course that
never happens never, He's never done that before. But that
which you saw to see winning games like that. Forget that,
it's just golden State. The fact that how they won
the game is that the free throw line at the
end and defending it, defending at the other end. Love it.
(02:46):
Congratulations Sam on the way to the semifinals. What Oklahoma
City thunder.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Up neck h OKC is up next in those semifinals
for the NBA.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Come.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Here's what happened pregame last night. Warriors coming to Houston.
Here's what the Rockets players got around, and there's in
their huddle circle.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Here here's what they did.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Wors come out to ploy, Warriors come out to play.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
War come out to play.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And that's from the movie called the Warriors, one of
the all time great movies.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Too.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
This scene is exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
It was exactly the way it was was, Uh, I
love it. They came out to play and they went
home without it. That's Wries and the Warriors came out
to play and they won, just like in that movie.
You don't mess with the Warriors. That was so funny.
One of my favorite things about doing uh, that I
loved in the longest yard. You know, the little guy
(04:02):
who was a snitch on that that's him, right, he's fast, Yeah, yeah, fat,
that's him. And it really oh yeah, same guy. Oh really,
I didn't know the same guy. And it's just like, oh,
I remember him back in the day. Unless I'm losing
my mind, but we talked about back in the day
when I the Warriors, one of my favorite I loved
him growing up, right, it was awesome. And then this
guy is in the same room, like, this is really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Warriors come out to play.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Ya, that's so funny. I didn't know that was him.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, well, you know, like I said, Steve Kerr, bitch
moan to complain about a call with three and a
half seconds left in the game, and this is baby back, bitch,
Steve Kerr crying all.
Speaker 9 (04:41):
Situation, eighty feet from the basket with the game on
the line. I've never seen that. I think I saw
in college one time thirty years ago. Never seen it
in the NBA. That is, I mean, unconscionable. I don't
(05:02):
I don't even just happened, you know, loose ball diving
on the floor. Yeah, eighty feet from the basket and
you're gonna give got two free throws to decide the game.
When people are scrambling for the ball, just give them
a timeout, give them a timeout, and let the players
decide the game. That's how you officiate, especially because the
(05:26):
game was a complete wrestling match.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You know, they didn't call anything.
Speaker 9 (05:29):
Steph Curry got hit on the elbow playing his day
on a jump shot, just.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Clubbed right on there.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
No call.
Speaker 9 (05:36):
So are you've established you're just not gonna call anything
throughout the game.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It's physical game.
Speaker 9 (05:41):
I'm going to call it a loose ball foul on
a jump ball situation with guys diving on the floor.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
With the game on the line, this is.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
A go ahead, you know what, triple go ahead and
cut it. There's still forty forty more seconds of Steve.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I don't hear him bitching. Yeah, I'll tell you with
Steve Kerr, here's what I want to and him say,
that's how you officiate. Don't tell us how to officiate. Yeah,
your coach, coach, you're a former player. I have a
lot of respect for Steve Kerr went in championships. I
disagree with a lot of his beliefs. Let's put it
(06:19):
that way, but I can compartmentalize. I've known him for
a long long time, but I can tell you this is.
First of all, don't tell how to officiate. That's not
your job. If you want put a put a uniform
on and go ref Now, bitch and complain, get kicked out,
get technicals.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But don't tell me what refereeing is. Secondly, eighty feet
twenty feet five feet A fouls A foul now, I
understand the situation where he's talking about you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Let him wrestle and go.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
But if you're wrestling and then they see a full
on foul, listens Goolden State's been getting calls forever, so
friggin save it, thank you, Stop the bitching and save it.
You guys been milking calls and having them a tug
on your nuts officials for years. Draymond Green should have
been kicked out of four thousand games. He can kick
you in the balls and still play four minutes later.
(07:04):
So save it, thank you. That team's been getting Hall
pass after freaking Hall pass. Now they're great, or they
were great. They've been getting Hall pass after Hall pass.
He's been given more leeway and leverage and all that
than anything. Steph Curry, listen you breathe on Steph Curry.
He was getting fouled. Dream they can do anything. So
I don't really want to hear in a semi final,
in a quarterfinal cup game, they're wrestling. You tell us
(07:26):
how to officiate. Your team got beat eighty feet or
five feet if they think it's a foul, it's found.
A bitch and complain all you want, but I'll tell
you what you got about. We got about oh, seven
hundred and fifty more calls before before anybody's even in
your area code. When it comes to ref's kissing your ass. Okay,
(07:47):
so save it.
Speaker 10 (07:48):
You.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
You have the most technical foul penalized a guy. And
you know how I respect Draymond Green game, but I
don't want to hear all of it because you guys
have manipulated the officials for a decade.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So save Walton into this.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Building and if it was your building, you'd come out
of the thing and we'd have been called for six
fouls right off the friggin bat. So save it. I'm
so tired of his bitching and winding. I tell you
this year and you know, oh god, it's changed up.
I knew Steve when he was playing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I respect him when he was a player, and honestly,
he's been a hell of a coach. He's got a
or he had a super talent, generational type team. But dude,
he's shut up already. And he was a good broadcaster,
good he's been good at everything he's done. But he
spends a lot of time overloading his mouth with his ass.
There is no doubt, so save it because if anybody,
for years, people have been waltson into your building at
(08:41):
Golden State in Oakland and now in San Francisco, depending
on what stadium you're in, what side of the bridge,
and you've been getting calls, phantom calls and all that,
and they've been giving you leeway forever because you're the
fair haired guys. You're the You're you're the when you've
heard the the darling of the league, and then all
of a sudden you became the villain. So welcome to
the NBA when you're not as town as some other
teams are. Now, yeah, and your time, and you're a
(09:02):
little older, a little long in the tooth.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Have you ever noticed that the older Steve kerb bitches,
I mean older he gets. The more he bitches, the more. Yeah,
and see you're supposed to get since you get older, Steve.
It's like just up now, Hey, welcome to the rest
of the world, buddy, Yeah, welcome to the rest of
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Say it. He lives out here.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Put a friggin muzzle fantasy land anyways, with other things
in life here.
Speaker 11 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah, you make a comment on politics when you're in
your post post game press conference, you might as well
because you do that all the time with the refs
and politics.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Just weave them both in so we can listen to
you wine and complain.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Again, just shut out, Thank you God, to shut up, man, dude.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He went on a literally a two minute rant. We
cut it off after a minute twenty because there were
still forty seconds off of him bitching about that call
last night.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
And you put it perfectly.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Draymond Green probably should have been kicked out of the
damn league by now with how many technical fouls and
all the bs that he gets away with, or should
have had his ass kicked. There's that too, That's the
first part. Kicked out of the league is one thing.
Taking an ass whoop and from somebody is another. But yeah,
shut the ups. You guess guess who doesn't get to
complain about the way the refs ref their game in
(10:08):
this league? That guy.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, okay, so just take it. They've literally got Scott
Foster on the Golden State Warrior payroll plus plus. Listen,
you got as much chance to get to the NBA
Finals as me and you do.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Matter of fact, we could pop. If the Rockets ever go,
will at least be sitting there. He can come sit
next to us because his championship ring run in Golden
State is done.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Done.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Okay, it ain't happening.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Finished.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Rockets beat those Golden State Warriors last night ninety one
to ninety. I think it's the first time in four
years they had lost to the Warriors. Fifteenth straight times,
fifteenth straight times.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Phenomenal franchise. Steve's been a phenomenal coach. Like I said,
and I'm having a problem with people's opinion, but when
you're bitching about something that you've been getting every call,
and his method last night was and it's quite frankly,
fairly brilliant. Why no, why does it pissed? I know
in the emotion, but he wants it to carry through
the rest of the season where oh, we can't do
this to Golden State when everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Has been like, how do they get away with this?
How do they get away with this?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
You breathed on Steph Curry fowl Yep, you Draymond Green
can kick you in the balls and then you can
shive shove him with the shoulder and you're the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I mean so the truth is, you know how much
compassion I have for Golden State?
Speaker 12 (11:17):
None?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Zero.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I think it's hilarious that in that in that audio
that we played, he specifically says, oh, Steph, Steph gets
hit on the elbow on a twelve foot jumper.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Oh he did? Oh oh god listen.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Oh no, when Steph Curry plays golf and he's damn
good at it. When Steph Curry plays golf, they call
a foul, right, yeah, okay, the rest call a foul.
He's not even anywhere near a basketball court. So yeah,
you know what, just just save it, you know what, tyger.
He becomes Charlie Brown Want Want, while the school teacher.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Just white noise. Stop it.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah okay, and the method of your madness is done,
and I tell you what, You're gonna get more frustrated.
You know why, because you ain't winning another title, and
it's gonna get more frustrating and more frustrating and more frustrating.
And but you've got plenty of phantom calls go your
way forever. So hey, I don't want to hear it. Plus,
you know what, if you don't like it being close,
we're in a close game like that, they call a
(12:07):
foul and give a guy free throws. Guess what that means?
Maybe you should extend your lead. Yeah, I'll just jump
into the fray of everybody else. Well, if you don't
like the overtime, ru'll get a stop. Okay, So well,
if you don't like foul, how about you get an
eight point lead, So two free throws don't matter at
the bat at the end of the game. Here's what
it comes down to at this stage of the At
this stage, guess who's better. The Rockets are a better
(12:28):
team of Gold State. Yeah that's the way it is.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Old State's had for fifteen and won the last sixteen times.
Speaker 13 (12:33):
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well, guess what it this time? And in the quarterfinal
they go on to the semis and it's I tell
you what the other side. It's pretty fun to watch
man the Rockets I'm talking about Yeah, but I actually,
I actually kind of it kind of gets me excited
when I hear Steve Kirk complain about this. I'm not
damn think he can do about last night. I'll get
on a plane and go home. I woke up early
this morning. I saw the I saw that was like
(12:55):
the first thing I saw was that the Rockets won.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But then I see Steve Kirk complaining. I was like,
you have got to be kidding me. What is this
dude bitching and morning complaining about I was like, did
something happened in politics that he's upset about and he
wants to weave that into his post game? Or is
he actually is he actually complaining about the officials? And
sure enough, he's actually complaining about the officials. It's rich man,
It's rich Oh God, just shut up. Steve Kerr Alprin
(13:20):
shin gun in that game twenty six points, eleven rebounds,
Jabari Smith fifteen points, and Sean mentioned as we got
as we started the show this morning. Jalen Green only
twelve points, but he hit some clutch free throws down
the stretch off the bench. Aman Thompson with ten points
and five rebounds. Tary easton nine points and seven rebounds
of Rockets win ninety one ninety over Golden State. They
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are headed to these semifinals in the NBA Cup. They're
gonna be playing Oklahoma City in Vegas. So good for
the Rockets. They improved to seventeen and eight. We got
a lot, a lot to get to this morning here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. We've got to talk about
Kyle Tucker Alex Bregman. The hot stove with those two
players is steaming hot from yesterday at the Winter Meetings.
(14:04):
We've also got to talk about the Texans as they
get ready to play the Miami Dolphins are gonna be
without one of their offensive linemen. What does that mean?
Of course, they're still without disease al shi.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Here.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We've also got to talk about some college football. Bill
Belichick now the head coach of the North at North Carolina.
So let's dig into it. Let's talk Kyle Tucker next
right here on seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Let's go, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
That's a chick.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Dude looks like a lady though.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
What is the Sarosmith? Steve Tyler.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Guys, now that sounded like a female at the end there, right, yes, yeah,
so what well that was that was not? That means
that's a compliment because when you can get that high
as a dude or it kind of you know, the
kind of roll into each other, you're not sure if
it's a guy or a gall that means you're getting
that high. Note what you need in that.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Cut, you know that song I Ain't Missing You at
All by John Waite.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I Missing You at All?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
People think they think that it was a chick at
first because of the way that it sounds.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Was it Johnny Waite?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Johnny Waite?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
W A I t e now that he confused with
Johnny be Good or John Barry or yeah, or John Mayer.
You're a big Mary guy, you yeah, you love those crooners. No,
set up there like that, sit there and make love
to the mic and then.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But yeah, but any dating a dude, You're right, we
went over this John Mary dating might be.
Speaker 14 (15:27):
Right.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Hey, yeah, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Man. Michael is Michael Bubble married Michael Boublay. Yeah, let's
check it out. Tell the tape. Tell so what did
you say about saying all the time. He said, Oh,
John Merriican poll, John Merriican Poll. Oh, man, he's got
a his what do you call it his hit list
or what do you call it? What what do you
call his roster, John Maya or his roster's deep? Yeah,
he could. He pulls with all these guys that are
(15:53):
named Frank and Mike and Andy Andy. Yeah, I mean
that there's anything wrong with it because I am Michael
boublay Is is married to.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
This.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm gonna butcher the hell out of this. Uh Louis
Sana Lope Lutos. I don't know you met her in Brazil?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Nice South America. Huh yeah, yeah, I mean see you
you're it doesn't matter if you boy as you know,
I could pull a guy. We know that you pointed
that out plenty of time, triply.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Who was it?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Somebody?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I'm not gonna what was yesterday or day before? I said, Man,
I said this dude with one hundred percent make I
was sewn.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh you did?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeh, don't don't call. I don't remember who it was,
but you remember what I'm talking about. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't know. There's somebody that was just ball washing the
hell out of you, And I was like this, dude,
what make was Sewan? I could pull a dude, Sean,
you could. You could say, you could give us the
lamest joke and he would be in the background.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Sean, Yes, yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So here you like the crooners here there that kind
of guy.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You said that you wish you were Andy Cohen.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
No, yeah, well I'm excited about Mary.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
What do you What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You just wanted to be around Mayor? You wanted to
sing to you? Look at your eyes like he sometimes.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
You don't have to be.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
You know how he sings that waiting none the well.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, what way?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
No, well yeah, maybe a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
I don't know. Yeah, I think Mike likes John Mayer.
Mike likes John Mayor.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I think Mike thinks John Mayor is overrated.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Let's ask Mike.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
There you go, We'll take a quick call seven seven Mike,
Are you a John Mayer fan?
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Absolutely not, Thank you and.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Good night, bingo. Just like I said, with you what you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Got this morning?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Mike.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Well, I'm a little like this conversation, but I'm sorrious.
Heck about hearing about miss Carroll. I really enjoyed listening
to her talk or her talking the assos in textious
and I think a bunch of us are going to
miss her. I just you know, I just love to
listen to her talk about the astros.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Us US three US three included on this show.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
We love her. And yeah, it's a it's a gut
wrenching to hear the news, No doubt.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
It is because I would have led to be able
to sit with her one day just talk baseball because
she knew her stuff. And there's no doubt about it. Uh,
you guys are about to start the conversation about mister Tucker,
and I think I heard you guys talk last week.
You know, we lost we lost Horrea, we lost Springer
and got nothing in return. Do you think there's a
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possibility that they assuming they cannot keep Bregman? Because for me,
I've said this before to you you guys, I think
Tucker is more of a priority than Breakman, especially as
I love Bregman. I think that's just the I think
that's the honest true. Is it a matter of affordability
with Tecker?
Speaker 15 (18:50):
Do you think yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
After the season, Yeah, Mike, I mean he's going to
command like three hundred and fifty million dollars four hundred
million dollars. And if you look at what Jim Green
had done over these last seven eight nine years, the
biggest contract he's ever given out to a player was
to Jose Altuve for one hundred and fifty one million dollars.
So they're not even gonna come close to being able
to afford Alex. Actually, they're probably not gona be able
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to afford to Alex Bregman or Kyle Tucker, or they
can afford it, they're just not gonna do it.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I should say, yeah, Mike, think about this. If you're
not gonna pay Bregman right and he leaves, if you're
not going to get to two hundred mil or whatever
it is that he he legitimately wants, how are you
gonna come around and pay one hundred million more next year?
If Tucker has a good season and pay and so
you've already lost. You know, you're getting like a fourth
or fifth round pick, a compensatory pick for Bregman if
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he leaves, and so Tucker comes on the same things,
So you got to get a haul, right if you
know you're not going to pay him. Now, you've got
to go get players for him, right, top prospects and
maybe a couple of MLB ready players. You just as
much as I love him, I think he's the best
all around player on the team. You just can't be
left hanging because if your business model says we don't
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pay seven eight, ten years, three hundred, three hundred and
fifty million, why in the world would you wait?
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I was, You're right, and I agree with the sixth
person it says it just be heartbreaking for the city
to use and eluse both those guys, considering what they've
done for this organization.
Speaker 12 (20:15):
But I get it.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
It's a business too. It can be harsh sometimes, but
I guess it is what it is. Gentlemen, I appreciate
your time.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well sir, thank you my great point, and thank you
for the call. It's just listen, it's hard to take
emotion out for guys that have either impacted you, impacted
a team, a city. You know it is.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's hard to take it out.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
But in truth, business and it's easy to say it's
such a cliche, Well it's it's business, but it is,
and it's business for the player too, And it's business
for the management. It's business for business, for ownership. You
just if you're not going to do it, why belabor
the point. Yeah, and even though he's coming off an injury,
Kyle Tucker is held in regard, high regard across this league.
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People love it.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Yesterday, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It was insane to read how many rival fan bases want.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Him on their team.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Why and why would oh my gosh, well why wouldn't
There were there was I forgot who it was. A
baseball writer maybe it was a former player made this
thread about how he's an overall better player than Jan
Sodo he is, and how he's going to command like
four hundred million dollars mean Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yes, I mean I would have if he has a
great end that we said it here, If he has
an MVP year this year, no matter where he is,
when his contract, when it's time to upgrade the contract,
it'll be north of three fifty.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Crazy and Nashals aren't even come close to being able
to do that.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
And when we say that he well, he's not betteran soda.
Soda is making seven hundred sixty five men. We didn't
say he's better hitter, right, but he's a damn good hitter.
Didn't say he was, you know, had more power. But
when you talk put it this way, the difference between
Sodo and tuckers hitters is far closer than the difference
between Tucker and Sodo is right fielders. Yeah, and running
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vantage Tucker. The basis, there's no question arm strength. One's
got two and a half tools, the others got five five. Yeah,
and if Tucker ever gets in it gets rolling and
does it and then with a short porch and right
for that, he's a forty home run if you really
turned him loose and you wanted to, you too, you
don't think he can steal forty bases in see, I
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think he's a forty forty guy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I mean you, if you think about it, he stole
twenty nine the other I think twenty nine or thirty
the other year. Yeah, so about two years ago because
he was hurting majority last year.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah. My thing is, I think he's a legit forty
forty guy because in a couple of the ballparks that
are entertaining him, that that a pop fly ray, there's
there's there's a dozen extra home runs a year for him. Yeah,
So and you know it just the guy and he
other than last year, the durability has been there.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
He plays most of the time.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
So and you know what, Yankee fans won't hate the
astros of all of a sudden, Bregman ends up there
or Tucker ends up there. I mean, it doesn't matter
who it is. You could have You could have came
in last year. Hey you when he wasn't here for seventeen,
and they'd still they're still boosts. Oh you cheated, Well no,
I wasn't here in seventeen, was in college.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right, but they will.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
But watch how quickly you forgive when he's in your
pinstripes right or he's in your red Sox right form
he's a Dodger. Oh well, Mookie Betts is a hero
in Los Angeles. Yeah, the hero and right, I get it. So, yeah,
I Kyle Tucker right now if he didn't play next
year and decide, you know, like they sitting out a
Bowl game, right, if Kyle Tucker didn't play, he's getting.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Three hundred million. Yeah that's the floor number.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yes, so and they're not gonna pay that here, right,
So you want to get held high and dry and
get a fourth round compensatory pick, you want to go
get some players that can maybe in twenty twenty six,
all of a sudden, twenty twenty seven, you're looking right
back at a team who's in contention or everybody's talking
about him as a World.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Series team again.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, there you go, and they got still have a
fine nucleus right now. Two Ve is not chopped. Liver No,
and Jordan's pretty good. But to my knowledge, yeah, not bad.
So there's there's still a lot to build on there.
There's teams would kill for three or four of these players.
This team has right.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
King Tuck playing right field for the New York.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
It will hurt people. But I'm gonna tell you what
he with pinstripes. He's he's the vertical pit stripe. He's
gonna look like he's about six eight. Well, no either way,
like because the Cubs are Phillies. Also, I mean there's
stripes you go to. Oh yeah, crazy man, I mean,
does Boston wanting Probably they just went out and got
Garrett Crochet. They sure did a nice upgrade for them.
(24:32):
Oh yeah, Now if you were able to pull off
because they were in the Soto hunt, yes, did you
imagine well I can imagine it.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, you know, if.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
You for all, if we're gonna lose Tucker and and
uh Pregnant, they may as well just go to Fedya,
both of them.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Just get him.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Yeah, they get him there. Yeah, they call that minimate
Park of the Norse.
Speaker 14 (24:50):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
People here don't dislike much, more like the Yankees and
the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, Boston's is kind of you know, what do you mean, Well,
they're not mid, I mean kinda. They have been mid
the Great Bullpark though, And plus that cactus flagging.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Oh there, dude, Oh yeah, the cactus flag and go
in there and say that, and they'll run you right
out of Boston. Brother, it'll be a wicked pissing Get
that bum out of here.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Let's get the break. Continue to talk about Kyle Tucker.
There's a team in the u NL that is in
heavy pursuit of Kyle Tucker, already putting the package together
for the Astros.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Who is it? That's next?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Coming out from the Winter meetings, a lot of uh
talk about Kyle Tucker being traded, Alex Pregnant signing with
another team. Let's go back out to the phone line
seven one three seven iety, Steve, you're up first, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Good morning guys today all can you guys hear me?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yes, sir, we got you.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Okay, Yeah, you know I'm a I'm not an Astro homer.
I mean I love the Astros. They for the last
seven eight years. I mean, it's been an unbelievable run.
But if if you're a businessman, just a pure businessman,
which I think Crane is, what you need to do
right now is cut your losses and get as much
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as you possibly can, and I mean as much as
you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Don't don't be a be a homer.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
And you know, because he's a nice guy, because I think,
if I'm not mistaken about two years ago, didn't he
have to go into arbitration?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Uh to get to get a raise? Is that if
I'm not thinking about it.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
No, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah he did, and uh he was pretty upset with
the with the outcome.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Didn't happen twice back to back here, Carol.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
The Yeah, it went back to back.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
The second year was where he didn't get the money
that he asked for and actually the money that he
actually deserves.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
So it upset pissed him off. To be honest with you.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
Yeah, so I think that's probably gonna be uh, maybe
not that I think it's going to be a factor,
because you know, he's got a little bit of a
thorn in his butt because of that. But I think
to be to do is just get as much as
we possibly can now.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Don't wait.
Speaker 10 (27:03):
Don't go into the season going Okay, well if we
pieced me list together and let's see where we're at
mid season, if we're you know, in the playoffs. I
think my only observation is just get what we can
right now and let's build for the future.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And you guys have happy holidays.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Talk to La you as well, Steve, thank you, and
s talk to Billy. Merry Christmas, Steve, Billy, good morning.
Speaker 16 (27:25):
Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Uh.
Speaker 16 (27:27):
The idea that Crane is sticking to a business plan,
I think is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Incorrect.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We'll go with that word.
Speaker 16 (27:37):
Because yeah, he may be speaking to sticking to it
on the financial side, but he hasn't stayed with the
plan that was originally laid, the foundation that was laid
for this franchise with Luno on the analytics and making
sure that the player has met a certain criteria within
the analytics Jeff Bagwell can't spell hard hit percentage, and
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he's listening to people that are on the wrong side
of this. Baseball is an analytically driven game, and Dana
brown is he leans that direction a lot more than
Bagwa does. Of course, so Crane might be staying with
his plan on the financial side, I'm not going to
pay more than such and such. But he's not building
(28:19):
his organization the way that they started. And that's a problem.
And you can see the difference because we're not getting
the players that we once got in the draft and
in free agents and other things like that, because we're
not looking at the analytics, we're looking.
Speaker 17 (28:33):
At something else.
Speaker 16 (28:34):
I have north the idea how Jeff Bagwood judges players,
but he's the one they're listening to. To me, that change,
he's changed.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
His business approach.
Speaker 17 (28:43):
So can you tell me why?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
That answer would be no.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I'd love to sit here and we could beat around
to and Billy, thank you, beat around a bush and say, well,
I know why he changed his business model. His business model,
the things that have held true are long contracts and
huge money. Now I guess it's relative huge money twenty
five millions, huge three hundred millions huge two hundred and
fifty al twove money is huge in the baseball terms. Well,
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why guys leave? How's that he's an he's sad success.
I don't know how Jim Crane would respond. Let me
ask this and tune with what Billy's saying. What if
this team had been close, has never won a World Series?
Still by doing by by going about this plan, get close?
But you let Pray go and Springer and now Bregman
and you trade because you don't want to pay. You
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get to a certain point, there's your threshold, and you
say he's been successful. But let's just say those world
Series rings warntchers. Would he still live by this business
model or would he have to? Hey, he can't beat him.
You got to join him to join him. I think that.
So I do think success breeds. Now what comes first?
The chicken of the ed egg?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Here's my plan? Now I'm going to go work my plan,
or we want a championship? Now that means that's the
plan I'm going to keep in place. The one thing
I do know, and when it comes to a lot
of different stuff, is the ability to adapt and adjust
with market value and all that.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You have to normally to keep up.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I think they've been extremely fortunate that they haven't had
to overpay and still be successful, because that goes back
to just how good they are developing players. They've been
well managed by you know, the last three guys here
managed well and in truth, whether you like them or not,
the three different gms you've had in this run have
all had success that they really have. Maybe not one
in the world sties, but they've all had success. So
(30:35):
with that, I wish I could explain to you why
you know why you know billionaires or certain people what
drum they beat to. I have a lot of respect
for Jim Crane, and I just asked, what would I do?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What would you do?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
What would Billy do? If you're in this situation? Are
you willing to pay Kyle Tucker three hundred and seventy
five million? Are we still talking about it just right now?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Either way?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Now? Well, now we have the world sees I'm talking
about now real time reality, they warn world cities.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Are you wanting to pay him?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
They're not. I have a hunch that Jim Crane's philosophy
is we're so good at how we go about this
that and I don't mean this against Kyle Tucker, and
I'm not I don't want to speak for Jim Crane,
but I'm just from my observation that we'll find another guy.
I trust the people in my organization that we're going
to develop another guy that can play right field. I
know that sounds so simplicit, Well what else could it be.
(31:32):
There's no salary camp you can pay him. Jim Crane's
going to be a billionaire till you know. This franchise
is worth what now, three billion dollars? So they listen
at this stage, is it really about money for Jim Crane?
What he's putting in his wallet? He's got plenty of it.
Elly owns half of West Palm Beach, doesn't any mean
and he's worked at all. This is killing it and
(31:53):
we'll continue to write the truth is based is fun
part of it, and he loves it. I didn't say
how the hobby makes those kind of cat I'm sure
it gets a lot of joy out of this. But
he's been one of those guys that's taking his other
businesses in this and kind of applied them together, meaning
here's how I do business, and here's how I'm going
to continue to do business and it's worked, Why would
you argue with success Now? The question is when it
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doesn't start to work again? Because it was easy when
you were a sixty win team, right, because there was
only one way to go up right. Yeah, Now that
you've won the you know the psych detections, they go
from three to ten wins. Now our expectations are you
better get twelve wins or you haven't done it. So
now it's no longer just gets the players. Listen, this
team made to the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They were a.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Home series, two games away from being in the World Series,
and we're looking at them as a disappointment. Crazy but true.
That's the standard now they're held to. So if you're
Jim Crane, your question is are you willing to go
through a downturn It won't be sixty wins, but a
downturn or you're not a dominant team If you do,
they let this happen and then get back into it,
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and will you come back with the same business model
that got you to the World Series in the first place.
So it's a credit Jim Crane. It's a credit to
basically telling his organization we develop players and I trust
you're going to continue to do it. But in truth,
when people say, oh, they bought a championship, yeah they did.
But on that ring that the Dodgers have guests, what
they're not going to say bought this championship. It's never
(33:18):
going to say that thirty years from now. It's just
going to be that great player. So I love a
lot of what Jim Crane does. Hey listen for selfish,
pretty an emotional. We all want great I want to
bullhog all the great players. But the reality of it
is is that you can't. But yet the reality for
the Dodgers, the Mets, and the Yankees is they think
you can.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Well, if you don't care about the luxury tax and
you're a billionaire and you don't care about let it rip, dude,
let it rip. So Billy I can't answer why he
goes about it this way, But my number one answer
is it's worked.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
It's worked, yeah, and that's the only way I.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Can figure it out. But I would be willing to
bet anything Kyle Tucker and Alex Bregman. I would, or
I'd put the mortgage on both of them.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Will not.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I said it early in the week I don't believe
either one are going to be here in the spring.
And I get it. Bregman seems like he is, Gosh,
it should be a little easier because it's one hundred
dollars one hundred million dollars less a minimum of what
Tucker's going to get.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
But I just I'm just going by.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Unless there's one hundred and eighty degrees shift in the
in the with the in the moon right over my hamming, yeah,
then I can't imagine that that this is going to
change Jim Cran's at the at the time in his career,
I would imagine that. I don't want to stay stuck
in your ways, but this is how you do business. Yeah,
and it's worked. And how do you argue with that?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You can't because it's Workings.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Can get all the emotional, But the truth of the
matter is what happens now somebody comes in his three
ten at third base and becomes an All Star.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
If Breg believes all as it does is validate his decision.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Now, if they go and win seventy games and they
are getting air ask kicked, that's probably when we can
start the bitch fest.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, yeah, I would think so. But until then. What
he's been doing has been working.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Would you change in any business you're doing if your
sales staff's kicking ass and shee you got to adapt
and say, okay, we expect more. Yeah, but are you
going to change your model if you're winning?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
No, If the model is winning and being successful, the
only thing that you're changing is like your goals, your forecast.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
If you've made a hundred money last year, you're gonna
make you want to make one hundred and fifty hundred
and fifty right? See Now the real test is now
sixty wins, buy it, bring them in, change it around.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
Win.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Now if you start to fall a little bit, you're
not a sixty. Now, how quickly do you want to
get back to one hundred?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Win?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Team?
Speaker 15 (35:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
We'll see seven one three, two, one two five, seven
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and the Houston Astros. Of course, the winter meetings coming
to a close today. What reports will come out we
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Speaker 6 (37:10):
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Speaker 5 (37:12):
Hit your Google machine ch Chess c h E S
King right now. You get people out there, they're saying,
oh hell no, oh yeah, chess King. That's that was
in your local mall right by Do you remember Chess
King department store?
Speaker 18 (37:25):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
That was your pre Abercrombie this out. Oh yeah, dude,
when I had a mullet, my stuff was so tight
in Chess King.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Due this looks sick. Yeah, I was pulling too. Had
the neon lights up above.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Oh yeah, chess King.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
So this was like a like a like the happening
spot like oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah that we might have like a little vest on
and you chess King down it was like, man, I
could pull in this outfit, right, man, Remember you know
you feel me? You kind of feel me. You wanted
to come back and style.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
We'll see. But then I see what these dudes got
from Chess King, and it's.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying, that's the skiddy tie.
Oh yeah, if you went to Chess King you were righteous?
You sure well depends on who you are walking in
the door. You know what I'm saying. I mean you
walk in there, it's like, look like these dudes are
smoking left cigarettes. I'm Briano, right, you know what you
left handed cigarette?
Speaker 11 (38:18):
I have?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
What's that matter? I'm just saying, man, there's a certain look.
But how about the chess gig though? Is there a
classic that's exactly like the Datta Summer Days when she's
sick in our disco?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
There you go, damn man, the first one opening the
Dedham Mall in Denham, Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I guarantee there's people are saying, oh, Man, Shaw, did
you just bring back that old memory of the Chess
King Check that out, man, which was right next door
in the mall to Orange Julius.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
I remember Orange Julius.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Checked, that's freaking sweet man seven one three five seven
ninety Damian, what's happening?
Speaker 11 (38:51):
All right? What's up? Wary? I got the I walked
the way in on this business motto, side with with
with the way right and and like you say, I mean,
so far, so far has worked. But there's this old
saying that you know, same thing that make your smile
to make it fry? How how how how sure are
(39:15):
we that? How comforted are we that this business model
that's been working for Crane? How how much of that
in the past, those rings? How how much of that
is on Jeff Luno? And and not uh particularly Crane's motto?
Maybe because you think we benefited more from the management
the managing of Jeff Luno and the staff that he
(39:38):
had when he was here. And and and also I
wanted to ask you, I feel like we I feel
like we're lucky to even have our too by here
still making the money he's made our two as going
to go down as one of the greatest ever played
the game. And we we we got him on the
bargain there. I mean that our two making easily be
(40:00):
making three hundred million dollars or more. And another place,
and last, thank Saran with this motto that he has
in place well as astro fans, will we ever be
able to see a guy retire here once they reach
greatness or will this sad motto drive them all the
way when it's time from to get money, when it's
(40:20):
time from to get paid? And I hang up and
listen to you.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Damn what a phenomenal three points. One, Let me work
from last to first. The answer under this business model,
if you become a high paid, proper age star, meaning
you have your best when you're in the prime of
year career with plenty of years left. The answer to
that under this business model, to get the money that
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the top ten stars would make if you're one of them,
the answer is no, not under this business model. Two
is you're right about hose Al TV. But that also
validates Jim Crane, which is going to lead me to
your first point here in a second validates Jim Crane's
ability to take a guy who has had to almost
beg his way into a base right literally almost, and
you know, undersize what's he going to do and his
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car and has turned himself with help and teaching and
just a great hand eye coordination skill set, into a
Hall of Fame player and one of the best ever
to plays position. One of the most beloved players. Forget
the twenty seventeen stuff. He's one of the most beloved
players on the planet. Yeah, and in Houston.
Speaker 14 (41:20):
It is.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
The truth of the matter is if you take twenty
seventeen out of it, there's not a soul alive out
there in baseball world who doesn't love al Jose al Tuove.
How can you not? But it validates what this team
has been, what you developed great players. Yeah, and Jose's
a perfect example of that. But you also when we
say developed players, listen you he ain't doing what Bregman's
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doing is a first pick, you know, as a first
round pick. If you're also not the guy didn't have
skill set, you got Altuve has got a phenomenal skill set.
It just somebody had to look. Take somebody to look
through the height and the physical stature. Well, here he
is and a bat that almost looks like it's taller
than he is when he swings it.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Real quick.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Is the answer about can this business model continue to
six or or Jeff Luna or Jim Crane and the
answers while owners do it and he's got a business model.
It was a perfect storm for at that point in time,
maybe the best GM in baseball.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
And if he wasn't first, he one third and an
owner who bought, who believed in him, who let him
do his thing as like Jim and stayed out of it.
And that's fine. The business model is, we say, the
business model, and it was covered up when I say
covered up by a great gym that got the right
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people in place to develop farm system all of it
and got the right mix. The answer is absolutely the
business model takes a back seat to what the GM
did here because the GM's approach couldn't win a lot
of games still anywhere in baseball. This approach will get
you close. But if you keep losing star players the
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thing this is not even Jim crom talking about anybody.
You cannot sustain greatness, even the teams who have kept
some of those stars. So the answer is no, a
top ten player here will not get paid here. He
won't go fifteen years here anymore. And if al Towo
Bay was twenty four to twenty five and didn't get it,
he wouldn't be here either. No, it's just the way
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it is.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yeah, I think there's I think there's a little more
to add to that when it comes to the GM stuff,
because what we've seen over the last couple of years
is we've seen Jeff Luno, We've seen James Click, and
now we've seen Dana Brown. And there's also some bad
contracts that happened when we didn't have a GM or
the Astros didn't have a GM. Let's dig into that
a little bit because it affects where it is now.
That's next to Sports Talk seven to.
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ninety is the number to join talk to John John
good morning.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Hey guys, good morning.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
There's three quick points I want to make.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
Uh.
Speaker 19 (44:45):
One is Brian you just touched on when we went
to break. You know, we got some bad contracts that
are lingery. We still got to pay a Bray. I
think we're on the hook for what thirty nine million
or something for.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Him, Yeah, somewhere around there, got it.
Speaker 19 (44:57):
Yeah, And then we got a couple of pitchers that
that had big con tracks that happened in Montero.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yep, Montero. Yeah.
Speaker 19 (45:05):
And uh, you know the other thing is is the
model that everybody's been talking about and I've been preaching
that we need to greet, we need to stick to it.
But you know, you look at some of the other teams,
they're following that model. That's been the that's been what's
behind Baltimore's success. We've been getting some of our front
office people plucked away. And the reason that is people
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want to do what we're doing. They see that that's working.
Speaker 15 (45:29):
And then uh.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Uh you know, finally, I just want to say that.
Speaker 19 (45:35):
When you look at what's got us into the playoffs
the last two years. You know, we we were without
a lot of our so called you know, best players,
you know, superstars and stuff, and it was the young players.
I would say ninety percent of it was our young
players that were called up and filled the role and
they're the ones that kept us in the hunt.
Speaker 14 (45:56):
And that's what got us.
Speaker 19 (45:57):
Into the playoffs the last two years, especially last year.
And uh, you know two years ago when we were
you know it was a year after yeah, that we
won the World Series. We were decimated by that World Series,
the International World Series that everybody was playing and you
know too, it was out and stuff. But it was
the young players the last couple of years that have
kept us in the hunt and have done the job
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for us. And as the season goes on, it's really
a matter of just putting in the right pieces each
game day. And uh, Espata I think has been great
at doing that actually, but uh so I would just say, again,
we've got to go young, We've got to uh get
the right pieces. If we can get a haul for Tucker,
I'd say pull the trigger without even thinking twice.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
So uh, yeah, John, that's exactly what they're going to do.
Speaker 19 (46:45):
Yeah, I think and I think that's the right plan.
I think that's the right plan. I hope they do
it because we can't get in this. You know, it
just doesn't it just really doesn't work. I'm convinced if
we would have gotten the World Series against the Dodgers,
we would have won. I really do.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I think we're so in their head.
Speaker 19 (47:02):
I think we would have won it, but we didn't
make it past the uh.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
You know, the first round.
Speaker 19 (47:08):
But uh, but anyways, I think that, uh, we've got
to return to that model because that model works, and
other other teams see it and they're adopting it too.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
So arrest my case on that.
Speaker 6 (47:19):
Appreciate it, John, Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You know, Sean.
Speaker 6 (47:23):
One thing that that.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Comes to mind when we talk about Jeff Luno and
what he built here and the trust, uh that Jim
Crane had in him. Obviously, Jeff Luno was let go
fired because of the cheating scandal, and then James Click
came in. And I think James Click did a really
good job while he was here. They won a World
Series while he was the general manager. He made very
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meticulous moves. He didn't make the big splash, but he
made very meticulous moves. He got yinr Diz, he got
Phil Aton, who have been really integral parts of the
success of the Astros. And then James Click was fired
and there was a period of time where there was
not a general manager here, and Jeff Bagwell had some
say in some of these decisions. He was out in
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front of the media talking about all these different players,
talking about moves and assumingly acting like he was the
general manager. And there's an article back when James Click
was let go, Jeff Bagwell takes a shot at the
ex Astros GM and says game is played by humans,
not computers. So we talked about this business model, right,
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We talked about the analytics. We talk about what Jeff
Luno did. James Click was also an analytical guy, and
the success continued continued. Once this happen, things kind of
went a different direction and we've seen the effects of it.
Speaker 6 (48:47):
Not Brian A.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
Brady, but bad Jose Brew contract atrocious, Rafael Montero way overpaid,
he was sent down a triple A last year and
then eventually Dfaight, if I'm not mistaken or was that
somebody Either way, two really bad contracts when they didn't
have a GM and Jeff Bagwell was right there for those.
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That's where I think some of this effect of where
we are right now with this Astionals organization started when
they fired James Klick.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Here's what the irony is of it. The business model
has been for this franchise to be heavy analytics. Yeah,
and Jeff Bagwell's zero analytics analytics and he has a voice, right,
that's the strong voice. That's the weirdest thing. I'll tell
you what. As being older than you and having been
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in this business a long time and traveled to a
lot of cities and lived there, I cannot remember a
time and maybe I'm missing the boat on this did
in a hometown A guy.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
Yeah, Rafael Montero was defit. Sorry, I know you said that.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a guy who these people would have
crawled ten miles over broken glass for when he was
a player. That his It's so weird because it's almost
people here don't talk about Bagwell the player anymore. No,
they're more they're they're more butt hurt over the front
office bag Well than they were happy about Bagwell the
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great player.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (50:14):
Absolutely, it's all.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
It's almost tarnished his legacy here, not almost it has.
It's not fair you got to compartmentalize because he's a
great player. I just tell you from what I hear,
because while I watched Bagwell his whole career, I wasn't
here his whole career. I got here post Bagwell career.
But it is incredible the way that people feel about
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Bagwell because of his front office blunders. Yeah, and it's
broadcasting no, no, no offense.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
He's not good at.
Speaker 11 (50:46):
That.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Being said, that being said, the ironic thing is very
few times would you give a guy a voice on
player personnel decisions that doesn't think. Now, I don't think
if you're one hundred percent analytics, I ain't in if
you're one hundred percent feel analytics are evidence. I've said
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it before, that's exactly what it is. You've got to
be able to manage and could play and be able
to mix and mingle both. But it is so weird
how a guy in the front office has that much
power or that much voice, and it goes completely against
the business model they've built when it comes to the analytics.
When they had their most success, it's a trip to me.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Well, I'm a lifelong Houston guy. The only time that
I went away from Houston is when I went out
to Alpine to play baseball in college. I was a
massive Asteros fan growing up. Dad used to take me
to games in the Astronome. Then we would go to
Minima Park, or when we go to enron then it
was Mini Ma Park. It was all about the killer
Bees here. Like me and all my buddies, we were
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killer Bee fans. Craig Bigio, Derek Bell, Jeff Bagwell, Be's
nuts exactly, Be's nuts. Sean Berry played third base, Lance
Burn came around like the killer Bees is what we
were built on, like what we were, what we were
raised on. Jeff Bagwell, I idolized him as a player.
You did the stance. Everyone tried to mimic his stance.
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You talk about Legacy and Billy Wagner, Who I mean
Billy Wacker. Yeah, killer Bees, I see you doing there
like that.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
That was what we did for me. Now, dude, like
I can't. I can't stand him because of what he's
doing in the front office, which is kind of a bummer.
It is because I'm telling you your thoughts about it, Yes,
and I've I've I.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Think for me, and I'm gonna pay myself on the back.
I think I do a really good job of compartmentalizing
my fandom for the Astros and what we do for
a living.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
I'm not a homer. I'm gonna tell it like it
is when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
To me, if you don't, you lose credibility. You do
lose credit. Billy, I'm one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 5 (52:45):
And if people can't handle that, then we're not We're
not for them.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
But when you see this quote and it's this is
the full quote quote, personally, for me, I just think
there are certain things that go on that numbers can't
explain because this game is played by humans.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
Man, it's not played by computers.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
End quote.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
That was the same day that they parted ways with
James Clicks. So that shows me that you've got a
guy that's got a heavy voice in the front office
and heavy voice with the owner saying hmm, maybe we should.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Stray away from what's been interest in analytics. None, come on,
man has been working and hearing it from you when
we come back and talk about it during the steakhout,
is that that how you feel about him feels like
the buzz about how most people do.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Now, you're right, people don't talk about his career anymore,
which is weird.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
Because I still think it back well as wide stance,
first basement, great glove, great base runner, home run and everything,
could do it all. And yet here now he's looked
at it as in front and that's and that's probably comparted.
That's fair, but I try not to cross both over
because listen, there's things he does that now in this
profession that he's just not good at right as a player,
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phenomenal at I'm sure Boston regrets. Yeah, there's no doubt so,
But with that your emotion, I feel I think that that.
I think that's a majority of people, and it's seventy
five percent of the people who are baseball fans in
this town. I think it because I come into town.
But get I was like, damn, it was about him.
When his name comes up, it so off get him out.
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But it's just crazy to me how you would give
It'd be like giving an option quarterback, I mean an
option guy, a voice on a team that doesn't run
the option option right, It's like and when he says
it's played by humans, I'm with because I've always leaned
towards feel. I mean, that's for sure, But I also
know how to make an adjustment. And I played in
a field age that the analytics were evidence of. Here's
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the game plan, here's what they do in coverage in
third and seven eighty percent of the time, right, And
that's the same thing, it's just worded different. Been doing
it for years. We just now are heavy on them.
We're hiring twenty five year olds from Yale to crunch
numbers their accountants that are really smart and they give
you a different perspective like in Moneyball all that stuff. Well,
we're here now, and it just you got to do both.
(54:59):
But I am how you would give a loud voice
to somebody and what he says is played by humans?
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, played by humans. But if that human.
Speaker 5 (55:08):
If I know that human throws eighty percent fastballs on
first pitch, uh, opening an inning, I ain't sitting curveball exactly.
So I am a human, but damn I want the
computer to tell me what this guy leans. Because tendencies
are rabid in pro sports. You do what you feel
your best at.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yeah, seven seven nineties number Drulet's get to the stake
out next right here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
How back to the Sean Salisbury Show. All right, Sean,
what are you hearing out there now? The Salsbury's takeout,
Salisbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
Time for the steak out here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
Sean Brown at Tripoli seven one three two seve nineties
A number two. We're going to extend the steakout because
we only got a couple of minutes this segment. So tripley,
let's extend the steak out for next segment.
Speaker 5 (56:10):
Does he have to play the sound again to come
into it next segment?
Speaker 2 (56:14):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (56:15):
You make the executive say, absolutely not. No, we're not
doing it.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
We can do a steak out.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
We don't have to.
Speaker 19 (56:20):
Do it.
Speaker 5 (56:21):
You come in with a little little disco next. Okay,
we don't have to do it twice in robo. We
can extend the steak out as long as you'd like.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
All right, for next three and a half hours, let's
do it all right, two and a half hours or whatever?
That yeah, two and a half right about at math
yeah two and a half start to rob?
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Was that Rob?
Speaker 8 (56:38):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (56:39):
Good morning guys, I just wanted to chime in.
Speaker 20 (56:41):
You guys are making a lot of great points, and
I was actually thinking about it yesterday listening to They'll
show you know this, this whole thing. The more you
think about it, it comes down as a catastrophic front
office failure. Uh, Brian, to your point what you've been
saying this morning, as far as Bagwell, just completely throwing
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everything out the window that we've done the last few years.
And Sean to your point yesterday you were kept saying,
you know, if we if we lose Bregman, then we
pretty much you can't keep Tucker because now you've got
too many spots to fill and he's your biggest trade shif. Essentially,
the last couple of years, they've they've refused to pay Tucker,
to give him one of these shorter term contracts that
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they were known for with guys like Al Tuvey, Springer Correa,
the short term five to six year deals where they're
keeping him under that two hundred million lot, and with Tucker,
for whatever reason, they refused to get it done. And
it was the oversight on the front office to not
see the fact, Look, if we don't give him what
he wants and give him what he's worth. We're losing
Bregman next year and we're not going to be able
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to keep him under two hundred million, and then Tucker's
up after that and we don't have anything left in
the farm system. They they had sight of that, they
just completely overlooked it last year and uh spring training
when they were in negotiations with Tucker, and had they
properly looked at that analysis. And again, you know, Brian,
what you keep saying with Bagwell, in that front office,
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I think there was a lot of oversight in him
completely or a lack of oversight, I should say, and
him completely redoing their business plan. That's ultimately what led
us here today. And they've got nobody but that front
office to blame for it.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Guys. That's all I got.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Thank you, rob, Appreciate you, Yeah, thank you, Robin. I
don't really have anything to add to It's pretty spot
on in my opinion, you know, I just I think
at the end of the day, it's like we've been
saying over the last couple of days, Sean, if you're
going to trade Kyle Tucker, trade him as soon as
you can and get the most, get an absolute haul
like I saw the Cubs had already mentioned players.
Speaker 6 (58:43):
Let me get these correct.
Speaker 4 (58:45):
It would be East sach Paradis, which is a first
baseman and a good player and could play third base.
You would also have Saya Suzuki, really good outfielder, and
then they want the Astros would want one of the
number one draft choices, whether it be Cam Smith the
third baseman or shortstop Matt Shaw, who are really talented players.
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I think Cam Smith got drafted last year and he
already made his way up to Double A and the
Cubs organization. So if you're gonna go do it, do it,
go do it. Don't do this half in, half out bs.
Go get a haul man, and don't keep asking until you.
Speaker 5 (59:20):
Get what you want. I'm actually not sure that's enough.
I was gonna say that's probably not enough. Sure that's enough,
but think what you do if if that, if that
deal right there that you just said, you get Suzuki,
who's a really good player, every day player, every single
day and versatile, yes contact, he can play. You get
a third baseman because Bregman's gone. I think, I mean
maybe unless they say, well, we'll give you fifty five
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million more than we've been offering when have you seen
a negotiation change that fast? That's not going okay, So
you cover third base and place as well. But if
you get the other paradus, guess what you do? You
cover that as well.
Speaker 6 (59:54):
Yeah, sorry, Praatis, Yeah first as well.
Speaker 5 (59:56):
And in truth, if the Cubs want Tucker, that bat
or somebody else, you know what I'm going back for
you all you want him, I need that. Your fifth
prospect whoever you know, whoever that is in there, I
need him, whether it's an arm or whether it's an
everyday player.
Speaker 11 (01:00:10):
And or.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
You ask for another current big leaguer that fulfills another need,
whether it's depth or right field, you know what, whoever
it is you're gonna put out there. And because I
don't think with that, it sounds like Chicago still has
a chance to win that trade, even though those guys
are all three names are everyday players. So for me,
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or can be right, I'm talking about to the point
with your number one prospect or one or two prospect
in their organization that if he came here, the truth matters,
he'd probably be turn into an every day player.
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Or you know what, you want to trade Coyle, Tuck
or the Cubs Hey, we also got Ryan Presley and
grab grab more bodies.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Sure, there you go, two for five. I'll take it.
So I just to Ryan's point and to what we've
been saying, is I get to a point. Do you
want to keep bashing your head against the wall. You're
painting into a corner? Now do you want to keep
bashing your head against the wall about should we or
shouldn't be? The truth is if you know you can't,
(01:01:18):
what do they say? Okay, don't compound one mistake with another.
And I'm going to tell you right now. One mistake,
you've got your busmo. Whether it's a mistake or not,
this is how you're doing things, so you're not paying them.
The second mistake would be to hold on to it
and he walk and it's a compensatory pick next year. Yeah,
I'm talking about with Tucker. That would be of all
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the things, that's the worst decision you can make, of
all the options you have. Now, the next worst decision
you can make is you go to Kyle Tucker one
for one. If that one for one isn't a top
twenty player in the league, then you don't make that deal. No,
that would be the where you get hosed on the
back end of this where it's like, that's all we got.
(01:02:00):
That would be detrimental, the last thing that's gonna happen
in this whole thing. And if you're emotional about it,
then you better get over it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Did Kyle Tucker and Bregman both Even if you were
lucky enough to keep one there, you have a snowball's
chance in hell of keeping both. And the truth the
matter is, if it was a future's bet, Vegas would
be betting that both are gone and it'll be by March.
The truth the matter is you may not even be
celebrating New Year's even both are going to be gone. Yeah,
that's that, that really is. I'd take those odds. Give
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me the under on January first.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I agree, I agree, like it or not, Let's continue
this discussion about Kyle Tucker and Alex Bregman next right
here on The Shawn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
We're gonna start charging subscriptions for this stuff. Yeah, man,
I'm saying, when you saw what you were putting on
in here, I picked it up. Would you do put
it down? Thank you? And good night?
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Seven seven ninety real quick though we'll get to all
of our callers. Got a lot of guys want to
get in talk about Tucker and Ox Bregman. One thing
I was thinking of during the break. Let's say the
Astros keep Kyle Tucker. Not happening, I agree, but let's
say they do. Okay, we're playing, Yes, let's say they do.
(01:03:15):
If you're gonna keep Kyle Tucker, then you are gonna
go have to That shows me that they're still wanting
to compete and just absolutely do everything they can to
try to get back to the World Series.
Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
They've got the pitching.
Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I think if everybody stays healthy, if you keep Kyle Tucker,
then you're gonna have to sell out and go get
a badass first baseman. You're gonna have to upgrade your
your center field position, and you're gonna have to upgrade
your third third bay position or third base position, or
get an above average player at third base.
Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
So you know what that that's gonna cost you. Yeah,
and we already know they're not the same amount would
cost you to keep breaking, thank you, So you're not
gonna do that. You're not gonna do that because of
the business model and the plans that we have seen.
You want to talk about the greatest shot of Red
Bull Vitamin B twelve and all of it put together
in one up time. Hm, you want to set a
city on its ear, I'm gonna I'm gonna see you.
(01:04:03):
I'm gonna raise you another one with it. And you
make a frigging great point. We say, if you don't
sign Tucker, you ain't get I mean, if you don't
sign bre you're obviously not signing Tucker. You want to
know what an energy and a change. If mister Crane
woke up called Dana Brown and called him in his
office and said, you know what times change. I'm gonna
(01:04:26):
We've been a great big times change at his restaurants.
It is it is company, is logistics, company, hotel wherever,
right at golf courses. Got to cut the rough right
sometimes wakes up. You want to see a city go
crazy in a good way and you change it. You say,
you know what, we got to adapt. Pay Bregman, sign
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Tucker and watch a city just say I'm stepping out
of my comfort zone for the next handful of years.
I'm going to do this money for him and it's
not an object, it's for him. It's probably the values
and how he approaches business. And I get it and
respect it beyond belief. But imagine this now, this city,
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right now, because I guarantee you they're feeling a little
down about this. Oh yeah, imagine he says, pay him
to ten and then the negotiations are done.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Brother, he's here.
Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Because deep down, LOUISIANAA, you think you think he wants
to leave. I don't know, but I think he wants
to leave for fifty million more. Yeah, and I would too.
And then you go to Tucker and say it's take
him aside and say we're not training you or we're
with your agent. Now, would you take eight years for
three hundred million bucks and you know what he's gonna say,
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we're close, I would imagine. And then you do that,
then watch an organization in a city get pitching healthy.
You immediately become the best team in the American League. Yep,
I'm not kidding. Who's better right now? Who's better in
the American League? You say Yankees aren't better than the
Astros anyway most of the time, and now the SODA's
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gone there, they're not better.
Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
It's not the Tigers, it ain't Boston, it's not Boston.
It's not the main Kansas City, not Kansas City. It's
not the Rangers, not Toronto. No, so yeah, they Baltimore.
Maybe maybe in Baltimore. Baltimore is underachieved in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
If you keep Bregman and Tucker.
Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Yeah, the truth is Baltimore's been Kyle Tucker in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
I hate to say it too with phenomenal skill sets,
but if underachieved a little bit in the postseason. Yeah,
you want to see you know how they sometimes, like
in a locker room, you'll get somebody and it completely
turns everything around.
Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
That's like when they got Verlin.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Imagine now with.
Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
The with the narrative in the city, how it would
shift right now and they'd say, oh my gosh, he's
adjusted the business model. They just signed Bregman and they're
spending another three twenty five or three thirty on Kyle
Tucker and get them both done. Kind of take it
just just for a minute, like a Dodger approaching.
Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
What would this energy be Like I'd be through the roofs.
Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Those phone lines where they already live. People would go nuts.
But let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
I know they won't, but why can't you You can,
but you're not going to.
Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Salary cap said no, luxury text may say no money
and championships may be worth it.
Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I just look and again I would love for
that to happen. I would as a fan, absolutely, but
we've seen that it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
It'll make you, it'll brick you up. Well damn right,
it would you get bricked up? I would that happen.
I would, yeah, probably if I just just five dollars.
You gotta do is pay five fifty yeah, five half
a bill. Okay, now back to reality.
Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Yeah, back to Reality's not gonna happen. Third right fielder.
Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
So it goes back to my point, like, you know
you're not gonna you're not gonna pay out a massive
contract for Kyle Tucker after this year, and you would
only get a compository, compensatory compensatory pick. Okay, thanks, So
you move him right now and you get a haul,
and you don't stop until you get everything that you.
Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
Let want and you let those guys come to spring
training and fit into this team.
Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Or you go and you you keep Kyle Tucker and
you sell out and you go spend money to get
a first basement, a centerfielder, and a third base. But
we both know that that's not going to happen because
if that were to happen, to spend that type of money.
Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
You'd be spending on Alex Bragmant.
Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
But back to your original point, exactly, if I got
to go spend all that money to get those players,
why not keep the one the two I got? Yeah,
Exac's my point, Thank you, That's my point. And in truth,
like anything, Well, let me ask you this. And you
know how I hold Jim Crane in the highest.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Regard, and they I do.
Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
I listen, I understand that I've been on teams with
owners that did do it. There, I get it. But
I do respect him, not only as a man but
a businessman. Whether you agree, you're not gonna agree with
all his moves doesn't mean I don't hate him because
he didn't want to sign Kyle Tucker. Nothing like that.
But real quick for me, Okay, what happens at your
hotel when it's a big resort, or when all of
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a sudden things start to you know, the customer service
goes down a little bit, yeah, show, or the prices
of the food go up.
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Sure, so you lose business.
Speaker 14 (01:08:54):
So do you what do you do?
Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
You adjust?
Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Say it louder, you adjust your prices, you figured it out,
or hire metal customers, hire better customer service.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
You have to help the customer, right. If you're logistics company,
what do you do?
Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
You make adjustments on on billing and you know collection,
you know all of it, on the billing and all
of the whatever you do to get things done so
the business runs smooth. It makes more money. And in truth,
by doing that, it's the old pay me now, pay
me latter. Well, it may be a hurt on the
front end, it may be the benefit of the back
end to me. I think most competitive guys like Jim
Crane competitive A championship ring is worth half a billion dollars. Yeah,
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honestly for a guy who's got it right. So can
you imagine making that shift on a dime.
Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
It'd be fantastic. But it's not gonna happen, right, I know,
But it's sure is good to think about. Yeah, there's
no doubt. Seven one, three, two, two five seven Hinty Dougs,
Steve Brian, Gary Andy, don't go anywhere, fellas, stay there,
we'll get get to your calls next on Sports TLOK
seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
Aggie Doug, you're first.
Speaker 17 (01:10:01):
Hey, fellas, I think I've told you all this before,
But I used to work in furnished apartments and we
used to have Kyle Tucker as a client, and his
mom back in the day told me straight up that
he has no interest in signing with Houston long term.
He's always had a furnished apartment. He's never even rented
a condo here. It's just a situation where I mean,
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when you were in a furnished department, that's basically like
staying in the airbnb, you know what I'm saying. So
like that, that's no, that's not laying down roots at all.
So I've known since probably twenty eighteen that there's no
way in hell that he's going to resign here. So
as much as the Astros have been at debacle in
the front office, I don't think he can complame him
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for Kyle Tucker. Now Alex Pregnant, that's on them. But
with Kyle Tucker, I mean, he's always had a pipe
dream of opening the Tampa Stadium because he's from Tampa area,
he loves the Red Sox. His mom's a huge Yankee man.
Speaker 12 (01:11:00):
Like.
Speaker 17 (01:11:00):
It's just I just don't think that that was ever
gonna happen. And in the fact that the Astros don't
have the due diligence to know that worries me a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
M mmmm. Appreciate the call, agi, Doug.
Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
If he wants to go to Boston, if he loves Boston,
if he is gone, Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
I guess, I guess we'll take him.
Speaker 6 (01:11:19):
We'll go to Boston.
Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
I say we like. I like off first base? Yeah, yeah, Hey, Tuck,
you hit behind me and lenup?
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Sean Salisbury gonna play first base for the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
He's hit third, King Tucks at fourth right, Boston tea party, allright,
cue the duck boats.
Speaker 15 (01:11:38):
That's good.
Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
Talk to Steve and we'll get to Andy. Steve, what's up?
Speaker 11 (01:11:44):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Uh?
Speaker 15 (01:11:45):
Sean, I like your cashe of cup players that you
mentioned there for Tucker. You left one guy out though,
Uh on the Cubs kind of a key piece in
my in my book? Uh, isn't that it begins with
a b Bellinger? Uh, he'd fit in nicely at center field.
Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
If they want to add him as if they want
to add him as the fourth name, that work for me.
Speaker 15 (01:12:07):
I'm in yeah, yeah, and I want my cake and
eat it too to keep pregnant.
Speaker 8 (01:12:13):
Yeam.
Speaker 15 (01:12:14):
If you're out there, probably open that check book and
give him the money.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I want him at third base.
Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
Yeah, we're greedy and I like it. I'm with you,
but I don't think it's going to happen. I don't
think either one are going.
Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
To be here.
Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Steve, all right, Well, let's hope I'm right.
Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Rather thanks Man. Yeah, I don't think Bellinger part of
that package. But if you're the if you're the Astros,
if in fact that happened, why wouldn't you ask?
Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Might as well? Man, get greedy.
Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
You can actually if you wanted to, you can play
him out there in right field. He can play right field, yeah,
left side bat, get the back, play anywhere, any of
the outfield positions in French base. Well, yes, that's absolutely true.
That'll help, and you can take one of these. Somebody
find room for somebody else, can't. The Suzuki is a
corner outfielder. Any he's left right, so you all moving around.
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I can play him somewhere.
Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
I'm playing right, Yeah, why not figure it out?
Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Andy, what's happening.
Speaker 21 (01:13:10):
When that guy called earlier about the knowing about Tucker? Yeah,
last was No, they're gonna they're gonna trade him. They're
gonna get a haul for him.
Speaker 8 (01:13:19):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (01:13:21):
Is it just me?
Speaker 21 (01:13:22):
Does everybody think that Breckman's still batting what he did
back in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. You know, the
guy has fallen off the five in the last five
years big time from those two years. I mean, hell,
if it was bad in what he did those two years,
he'd be a fifty million dollar player right now. But
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I mean he's I mean his ops for those two
years was nineteen seventy. Last five years is seven ninety five.
His average was two ninety one those years. The last
four years his average is two fifty eight. I mean
it's on base percentage from four oh eight now to
three fifty. I mean, everything has dropped. I mean, he's
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not a thirty million dollars a year player.
Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
I think that's fair. I mean it's not a lie.
I think that. I don't think he's I mean he
may get thirty million, but okay, let's all three real
quick Andy, would would you pay him thirty million for
five years?
Speaker 15 (01:14:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Okay, Brian, we're not paying thirty million for five years.
I wouldn't do thirty million, okay, and neither would I.
Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 21 (01:14:30):
So no, he's twenty he's twenty two to twenty five
million a year player. That's what is stat show, and
that's over five years.
Speaker 11 (01:14:39):
Hey, besides, you know.
Speaker 21 (01:14:40):
What I think is gonna happen at first base?
Speaker 15 (01:14:42):
You know you can't.
Speaker 21 (01:14:43):
We can't feel every position.
Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
You got a bunch of holes.
Speaker 21 (01:14:45):
You got cert field, you're gonna have right field, katuckers,
you got third base.
Speaker 11 (01:14:50):
You have to feel.
Speaker 21 (01:14:51):
You got to feel his first base because you still
haven't filled up from last year. I think they're gonna
give Kartina a shot at first base.
Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
Wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
If they don't get somebody through this And thanks Andy.
Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Uh yeah, I think Victor Carrottini will be uh playing
a good amount of first base, which I don't mind
because these swings are pretty nice.
Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
I still don't think they're I still think they're in
search of that position.
Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Yeah, I think so, I do as I should be
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Rockets beat the Warriors. They're headed to Vegas for the
semifinals of the NBA Cup. Final day of Winter Meetings
in Major League Baseball, Texans safety Jalen Petrie out for
the season with a pectoral injury.
Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
They play that offense this weekend. Seven seven eighties and
number to join.
Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
I've been talking about Alex Bragman Kyle Tucker trade situation
for Tucker and Ryan Presley.
Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
Also is fromer Valdez up to be trade.
Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
All kinds of things coming out of the Winter meetings
this week in Major League Baseballlet's talk to Brian.
Speaker 6 (01:16:32):
What's happening to Brian? We appreciate you holding good morning.
Speaker 22 (01:16:34):
Hey, oh no worries, guys, appreciate it and showing. I
got a little small Las Vegas bull proposal bet for
you at the end uh your games come that helps
charity out. So hey, real quick on the on the
Tucker situation, I think the name we might be overlooking
our a couple of names.
Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
I think we might be able to get from the Cuns.
Speaker 22 (01:16:54):
I don't you're gonna have to match some money. I'd
be fine with Damsby Swanson maybe getting I'm trying to
move him over to third possibly or even Jamison Tye
on you you bolstered that pitching rotation. I know we
were in on him, or at least Cone. He was
the name of the trade deadline. I'd say, get the
cubs of the package you're gonna take. Get one of
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those two guys in there if you can, along with
Suzuki and Paradus and whoever else you might be able
to get.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I would also make the call.
Speaker 22 (01:17:23):
And force them to tell me no. I would call
the Pittsburgh Pirates and say, Kyle Tucker and name a
couple of guys. Put the packers together, Paul Skeens and
Cabrian Hayes. Can you keep Brian Hayes and Paul Skins.
We will do a sign and trade with Tucker to
use yours for the next ten years whatever it is
fifteen years. You are guaranteed to get them, but we
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want Paul Skeens in return. I would force them to tell.
Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Me no, nay, Brian, before you finish, let me tell
you something. You and I got a better chance. It's
snow hitting Hell then Skeens being departed. I understand you
make the call, make the call, make him tell you no,
I get it, but hell, he's there, Bob Gibson, Okay,
right now, but I get it.
Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yeah, I got your brother real quick.
Speaker 22 (01:18:14):
My Aggie's your Trojans in the Las Vegas ball.
Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
I can hit you up on Twitter and we can
sort it out.
Speaker 22 (01:18:19):
But it was thinking fifty bucks for a local charity,
loser pace to the to a local charity, and if
you were willing.
Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
To do something, yeah, just straight up, straight up bet yeah, no,
spend bosh.
Speaker 14 (01:18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
I haven't looked at what the spread is, but we can.
It's a bowl game. I don't I don't even I
imagine you guys are favorites. Probably no points. Let's just
go straight up fifty bucks, donate it to the guy's charity.
Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I'm in.
Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
That'll work. I'll hit you up on X.
Speaker 22 (01:18:50):
It's fun the way he puts a little something X
from there.
Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
You got it, brother, I appreciate it, will make it,
It'll make it worth watching. Thanks, man, appreciate it. Like
his idea, it'd be great. Yeah, well, I want to
call off the red and get Dela Cruz too.
Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Anywhere?
Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Would you do this?
Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
If you were Cincinnati, would you trade Elie Dela Cruz
for exactly That's what I'm saying anywhere? Right? I can
put him in like twelve positions. Yeah, I may even
have him pitch what's the other for Pittsburgh. Dude's a
freak too. When when he said it, I was thinking
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that's who he was going to say, because there's about five,
but there's probably ten sacred cows in baseball somewhere that did.
When you call up, you got no shot. And I
love his idea. Call and make him tell you no.
But guess who ain't going.
Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Yes, he's not going anywhere, man.
Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Yeah as well if he did, if you did get him,
we'll guess who opens the season started next year.
Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
But also, guess who's not staying here when his contract
when his working contract comes up? Ain't Paul Paul Skins
is gone.
Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Oh out of Pittsburgh. I'm here.
Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
Well whatever reason he came in.
Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
If history holds true, Pains and Elie Dela Cruz in
Cincinnati and Paul Skeins in Pittsburgh will both be eligible
for free agency and leave because those are two markets
that don't have a tendency to pay right five hundred
million dollars and as a pitcher and a and an
everyday player, Yeah, those two may be the next in
line for big money. Yeah, so there you go, doubt
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Talk to Aaron. What's that baron?
Speaker 23 (01:20:22):
Hey, guys, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Good morning?
Speaker 14 (01:20:25):
Hey, just uh.
Speaker 23 (01:20:26):
I was thinking, I don't know, it seems to me
that the Astros you know, maybe impulse trading or impulse
buying right now. And I'm thinking, because you know, they
they made it to the playoffs last year, and I mean,
it sucks that we lost to the Tigers, but what
if they you know, sign Bregman, try to keep the
same line up. Keith Tucker take it. You know, it's
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his last year before he's not on the astros. He's
gonna he's gonna play, he's gonna step it up, he's
gonna play as hard as you can to get that
big contract at the end. Use that to our advance inch,
you know, up until up until the trade deadline, if
you know, and if he's performing well or if we
need you know, starting pitching or whatever, then consider trading
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them at that point when he's maybe at a higher
value and we get more back. But then that way,
maybe we get a lake up in the American League.
Let me trade that.
Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
Let me ask you this, Aaron, So what happens?
Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Good point.
Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
I think that is a viable option. But let's say
he's tearing it up and he asks, those are four
games in front of first place?
Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
You're keeping him?
Speaker 23 (01:21:34):
That would be nice if they could.
Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
But now let's go with your scenario, and I'm with you.
He's playing MVP baseball, which we've seen him do before,
and he asked, those are four or five games up
in the division. And now you got the pressure as
an organization saying, oh hell, what are we doing now?
What kind of message is that if we trade the
guy when he's the MVP in the American League? Right
now and we're in five games up in first place.
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Do we go for another ring like they did, go
get Kokuchi this hue? Do we go didn't trade Bregman.
Do we go for another ring, come up short, and
then guess what happens? You lose him for a compensatory pick.
That's that's It's almost like you don't want to be
put in that situation. So don't wait till the trade deadline.
Because if it's me and Kyle Tucker's the American League
MVP at the midpoint and we're five games up in
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first place, I ain't trading him.
Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
I'm going to go try and get another ring.
Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
And now the problem is if we fall short of
the ring, we don't have that, we don't have the jewelry,
and Kyle Tucker's making three hundred and seventy five or
four hundred million dollars somewhere else without us getting a haul.
Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
You see what, I love what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
But man, aren't you even putting the front office in
more of a difficult situation now? And if he's banged up,
or if he's playing poor baseball, which he probably won't be,
but if he is, there's always the if what happens
then did you just devat did you just devalue? So
what is the advantage of keeping him till the trade deadline?
Speaker 14 (01:22:58):
For you and I?
Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
It for you and I it's maybe they'll have that
epiphany in that they'll decide to keep him in paying
for the three hundred and fifty million, right, But it's
sure it sure makes their job a lot tougher either way,
whether he's struggling for value or whether he's killing it
to keep you.
Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
But I like your point, man. I wish that'd be
the I wish it was. I wish it was easy. Unfortunately,
you'd put more pressure on the front office if he's
raking in there in first place, and now you've got
to give up those people and get a compensatory pick
at this time next year.
Speaker 23 (01:23:30):
Yeah, that's a good point. And if he was killing
it and Crane was it, you know, willing to sign
him for longer, that would be great, right now.
Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
That'd be well, that's the best of all the worlds,
right and Ed Bregman's still playing third base before you
do it, that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
I'm with you, Thanks, buddy, appreciate the call. Thanks for
comments think see it?
Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
What that puts him in Brown Yeah, puts him in
a tough way because if you're in first place and
he's playing MVP baseball, you'll you'll lose a city if
you trade him. And if he's playing bad baseball or
banged up or hurt, then you've taken more value from
him than you would have now. And the truth is,
regardless of his injury last year, folks, I got news
for you, there's nothing devalued about Kyle Tucker right now.
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People are standing in line to want to get him
for obvious reasons because it wasn't an injury. Oh many
towards achilles a second time, it's one that it's one.
At the end of the year, almost felt like he
was about ready to go right full time. And if
he plays great and he's the MVP, he may not
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even if you kept him. There's a good chance, going
by what Aggie dug said, did no matter if you
offer him three hundred and fifty million dollars you.
Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Aint keeping him.
Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
No, you're not, because he wants to go play in
Tampa or Austin, right, So the truth is in truth.
Other than for us as fans, if you're not going
to keep him. It's actually dumb low IQ to go
to spring training with him on your roster. Yeah, it
sounds crazy, but it really is, because you'll paint yourself
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into a major corner if you're trying to move them
at the deadline. You're in the first place, and he's
the MVP in the American League's like what we said earlier,
trade him, now, get it done. Get it done by
trade it. I'm not even convinced yet that Alex Bregman
is going to go before Kyle Tucker. Does you think
the way the heat is going, it almost feels to
me like Kyle Tucker could be the guy that goes
before Alex Bregman.
Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Sides, doesn't it a little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Or maybe it's just the buzz because of who he is,
but it has a it has a feel like that.
I don't know if you feel the same way I do,
but I have a bit of a feel that that
that seems like something that could happen.
Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Well, actually, it's it's funny you say that.
Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
So.
Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Jesse Rodgers of ESPN covering Major League Baseball just put out,
uh some reports on both Kyle Tucker and Cody Belindrick.
So Cody Bellinger was brought up I believe last segment
or maybe either way by a caller in regards to
him being with the Cubs and being on the potential
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trade block. Gosh, man, this is this is these winter meetings.
The stuff just continues on all week man, all these dominoes.
And you know what, another thing that I was thinking
about Sean is is obviously the uh there's some smoke
and fire around Kyle Tucker, around Alex Bregman. You see
all these other teams making moves, trades, uh, signing guys
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like Garrett Crochet being traded to the Red Sox. The
Astros haven't made one move. Take away the Kyle Tucker
and the Alex bregmant thing for a second signed.
Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
Then they signed somebody a couple of days a week ago.
Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
We won't move. But you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
Significant Yeah, made a move or second minor league guys
there you go, Yeah, like a significant move, yeah, like
like upgrade your center field position, getting a first baseman.
So you're hoping they have a big plan something, do something.
Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
All these other teams are getting better, and I'm not
saying go and try and sign somebody for four hundred
million dollars.
Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
It's gonna happen. Make some kind of move.
Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
But here's what I would do something but in not
defending them. But as you well know, maybe they are
and the other team's not playing nicely, playing well in
the sand by so the only thing they could do
otherwise in trading somebody right now is to sign Alex
bregmant right. Fifty millions a long haul to get to
come to an agreement, which we don't think is going
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to happen. So in truth, they may be I don't
want to say frantic, but furious, fast and furious, and
somebody else like the cubs of the Red Sox that
are in this fray or the Yankees, may be saying nope, nope, nope, yep,
maybe yeah, And so they may be moving, but they
can't quite shake because you've got to have another person
to play.
Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Yeah, it's two in the hand, one in the bush,
so figure it out. No, it's opposite, Oh, one in
the hand, two in the bush.
Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Movers and shakers, dog, would you rather be a mover
or a shaker?
Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
Would you rather be a ball or a shot collar?
They'd rather be a baller See. That's what I don't
get by you, guys. I think you once you were
a baller, you have a chance to become a Yeah,
if you're a baller your second command.
Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
That's all right. Like being a pimp. You want to
be a pimp or you want to be the head pimp? Head,
you want to be the head.
Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
I want to be.
Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
I'm the shot called. You are the shark I want
to be. Yeah, you don't want to be the pimp. No,
because I've already been the pimps. So now you're the
shock the pimp and you're the baller. So now you
got to stay at you to the shot call. You
got a stable of pimps that you're watching over right,
I got you and every get guess where all the
money is going to? The Yeah exactly, Yeah, and then
I get to funnel that wherever I want, like for instance,
in my drug deals, right exactly. Allegedly you're alleged drug deals.
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We need to confirmed nor to dig drug deals.
Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
Seven one, three, two, two, five, seven ninety is the
number of the join will continue to talk about Alex
Bregman and Kyle Tucker. Jesse Rogers of ESPN covering Major
League Baseball put out a report in regards to Kyle Tucker,
Cody Bellinger and the Astros.
Speaker 6 (01:28:46):
What is that all about? That's next?
Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
This is the Shoan Salisbury Show. Are you not the
tang Let's begin now on Sports Talk seven nineties.
Speaker 5 (01:29:06):
Get out to Biscuit, Biscuit. What's happening?
Speaker 11 (01:29:10):
Hey?
Speaker 24 (01:29:10):
Dropping more than my brothers?
Speaker 12 (01:29:12):
Hey, let me say this for I get to my Astros.
Speaker 24 (01:29:15):
Man. I'm gonna say it again, Sean, I'm not trading nobody.
I'm keeping my young team together. We're gonna continue to grow.
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
The obviously speaking about those rockets, yep. And another point
last night, don't score one hundred points, knock down clutch
free throws and get a stop on the other end
of secure a game. Different team, man, I don't. I
don't think there's many in the cities arguing with you.
What they roll with, what's getting you, where they're getting,
and where they're getting is better than where they've been
in constant improvement. I'm with you.
Speaker 24 (01:29:50):
Now to the Astro Belima, I'm gonna ask you a question,
and you said something WI you rather okay, let me
give you a would you wrap it? Would you rather
another run for the championship next year and possibly be
sucked for five or six years, or would you rather
be media for three or four years and if possibly
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be in the running for a championship five six years
from now. I'd rather try to Let's let's push it
just to the middle man. Let's try to win and
get us If you think we were what I was
trying to what we would like three or four games
from getting to the World Series last.
Speaker 14 (01:30:27):
Year, I mean, I mean we lost.
Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
We got two years ago to a home series away
with a lead of getting to the World Series when
the Rangers won it. And last year obviously losing in
the first round. But if you go a couple rounds here,
you're seven or eight wins away from getting to the
World Series. Yeah, last year because you're in the playoffs
and doesn't take you know, you got to win what
was the first one?
Speaker 12 (01:30:49):
All everything?
Speaker 24 (01:30:50):
I mean, I mean, you you know, you could be
like say, like the Phillies, they've been good for last
you know, seventy year, but they had no rings to
show for where you know, you have some team that
maybe just one one one one series and then you
know you fall off the map, then you come back,
I'd rather take Let's let's man, let's try to get it.
Let's try to get one more while we got out
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two A and a couple other guys and uh Fronberg
and look like the picture staffs.
Speaker 11 (01:31:16):
Coming around has add a couple of pieces and make
another run.
Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
Yeah, so Bscy, I'm with you. If you keep Kyle
Tucker for his last year in a contract, you have
to go upgrade first base. You got upgrade center field,
and if you lose bregnant, you're gonna have to find
an above average player to play a third base in
order to win a championship.
Speaker 14 (01:31:33):
I'm with it.
Speaker 24 (01:31:34):
Let's say, can we do that. If we can't do that,
then yeah, Trey Tucker, But why let's try to see
if we can get a center fielder. Like you say,
if we can't keep breaking, get a third basement and
then then maybe nothing picture and let's let's roll with it.
Get rid of Princely and then and can't pick up
some other pitching, and let's roll with it.
Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
Go grab another one if you can, and then deal
with the play in the now, play where you're play
where your feet are, and then deal with the rest
later is your style right now?
Speaker 15 (01:32:03):
Right?
Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
Biscuity not a bad idea that. The question is, are
they willing to take a compensatory pick rather than get
a haul for Kyle Tucker and just live with it.
I don't know if they are. He makes I'm all
I've always told you a championship. I'm all about the chip.
Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
All the time.
Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
Brades are now.
Speaker 5 (01:32:21):
Yeah, listen, and if I have to go through four
years of struggles, give me another ring?
Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Ye know how hard it isn't win three rings in
a decade?
Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
Really hard.
Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Almost dropped the S bob, so I have cover up.
I had to cover it with a oh, just don't
drop the four letter S bomb, right, So there you go, man.
But and I get it. But I'm trying to think
like the front office. If we're thinking like the front office,
there's no way in hell that you're when you when
you're not gonna pay. There's no way in hell that
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you can roll with Kyle Tucker all year long without
getting something from him unless you feel like, well, we're
gonna we're okay struggle in the next five years or
three years, whatever it is. I don't see it happening. Yeah,
I got to rebuild the Fharmcists. But I'm with you
in viscit. I want to win now. Yeah, I'm all
about championships.
Speaker 19 (01:33:05):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
If you got him, smoke him. If you got him,
and you got him right now, but you ain't gonna
have him for long. And I don't think you either
want are going to be here by March now old
by January one?
Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
Yeah, seven, one three five seven. Honey, Rick, what's going on?
Speaker 15 (01:33:17):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (01:33:17):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Guys? Well, guys, I always say, love your show.
Speaker 25 (01:33:21):
Look, I just wanted to weigh in a little bit
on the Bregman Tucker thing. And one of the things
thinking about Tucker, I don't know if I'm looking at
this right, but your trade partners for him are very limited.
Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
In that you know the kind of salary he'll come in.
Speaker 25 (01:33:36):
I mean, if I'm the Cubs and know the Yankees
missed on Juan Soto, am I gonna put myself in
the same position the Astros would.
Speaker 12 (01:33:44):
Be in a year from now?
Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Uh if if they if they do that trade. And
one of the things that concerns me about Bregman, He's.
Speaker 25 (01:33:52):
At a point in his career and salary where you're
gonna have the Tigers and other people that normally wouldn't
be involved in players like Tucker. So you know, I
don't know if it'll be as easy to move him Tucker,
meaning because of the limited trade partners?
Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Am I looking at this correctly?
Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
You think I think limited?
Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
Yeah, you know, three or four teams, but in baseball terms,
that may not be limited. Rick, it may not. And
the truth is, if you have one that loves you,
there is no limit because they'll do whatever they can
desperation to get the guy. So I get what you're
saying that there's not twelve teams standing in line. The
truth of the matter is if somebody has a hanker
and for Kyle Tucker, you won't have to have a
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bidding war. They'll give up. If you're if you're the
if you're the Astros, you kind of hold a little
bit of the cards to this right. You want a
great right fielder, and think about the Yankee situation. You
lose and all the all the narrative that's going on there,
losing Soto and you're close and they're mad at Soto.
You want to know how you quiet that down with
the franchise that spends money, go trade some prospects for
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Kyle Tucker, because right now Yankee fans aren't thinking about
their prospects. You know what they're thinking about. We lost
one of the best players in the world for seven
hundred and sixty five million. How do we simmer that
down a little? Well, you go get Kyle Tucker. So
it is, and you know how it is. Optics matter
to front offices, don't they. You know I'm saying that narrative. Well, look,
we lost Soda, but here was our plan all along.
(01:35:16):
Think about how the Yankees could cover that. Well for
seven sixty five We're gonna re sign Kyle Tucker for
four hundred, and we get a guy who's got more
tools than Soda, may not be a better hitter. And
then we went out and got Max Freed, so we
doubled down. So we got a better team than we
had last year. So don't be mad at us, because
if Soda goes and it's two ninety with thirty home
runs and with them at city Field, guess what was
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not cityfield?
Speaker 14 (01:35:41):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Cityfield? Is a city field?
Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
Then then we actually had this plan all along because
we knew the Astros were gonna move Tucker. They were're
gonna pay him. See how that works on the narrative.
You really only need a player or two in it,
meaning a team or two. So I do think there'll
be enough. And when the players are Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox,
Phillies and Detroit, you're not gonna have any problem moving him.
(01:36:03):
And you absolutely have to since you're not gonna sign him.
Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
You just do you.
Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
Hey, you guys appreciate it, buddy, Thanks man. Here's what
I need from them, though, to move Kyle Tucker. You
can't settle for a well. Man, if this guy turns out,
it's got to be that's the best prospect in their
farm system, that's an everyday player, that's another really good
top ten prospect in their farm system, and that guys
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are starting third baseman. That's what you got to go
get to. Because if you're telling me that that team
that they're gonna get is paying Kyle Tucker between three
hundred and fifty and four hundred million, he ain't worth
just one player. And if you settle now, that's the
only way you hold out on the trade right now
is if somebody wants to low ball you because they
think you're desperate, you tell him to kiss your lily ass. Yeah,
(01:36:53):
and you tell him I'll see you late. You'll come back.
Oh yeah, you'll come back. You want a five tool player,
you'll be back. And when you come back, I'm not
only asking for four players now, I want a fifth.
Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
Yeah, Now I won five.
Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
So screw you. And that's the way you got to
go about. You're not signing him. Try to get a
hold the business model says, you're not signing him, and
I'm going by the history of the business model, you
don't have a chance in hell to sign him. And
the truth is now the stuff to hear, he may
not even want to be here, right, exactly might if
you kept him in all the city's hey, it's great,
we're a really good team, and all of a sudden,
this time of year comes around. Next year he's like,
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I've always had a dream to go home to Tampa. Yeah,
I've been a diehard Red Sox fan since I was
a kid. Right, well, we got we got ten years
at four hundred million.
Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
They got ten ways at four hundred million, tool too, right,
yeahays cool. That's the other thing when it comes to
free agicy, you got to make sure the dude that
you're offer the money to actually wants to stay right, Yeah,
gotta trade him. Yeah, as much as we love him,
you got to trade him because you're not paying him.
Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
You're not even gonna get close him, No, not even close.
Seven one three two one two five. Seven ninety is
the number to join. We'll continue to take your calls
on Kyle Tucker and Alex Breggman. Next on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
I had lived out there.
Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
In order of August. Wait, let's talk to Ronnie. Ronnie,
what's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Thank, good morning, guys.
Speaker 26 (01:38:13):
What the Astros are going through now is the final
ramification of Rob Manford's dictatorial ruling, stripping us of four
draft choices and a boatload of international money because they
could not restock the farm system and develop prospects. You
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to trade themselves for people as far as Tucker. To
everybody saying, well, why won't Crane signed Tucker? Why won't
Crane and Sean you alluded to it briefly. If Tucker
doesn't want to sign before his free agency begins, he's
not gonna sign, so too prove that with the Yankees,
the Yankees could have offered him a billion dollars and
(01:38:57):
he wasn't going to sign until he became free agent
to get to totally test the water. So you know,
I'm not mad at at Crane. The thing that the
Astros need to do if they're not going to dive
into the pool, the deep end of the pool, they
need to And I don't know how you if you're
limited now in terms of how many players you can
(01:39:18):
sign internationally and beyond the draft, if you can go
and to get free agentsy high school kids, college kids,
dock the farm system with as many players as you
can sign, push the ones you can develop and sign
them the long term deals. If they pan out when
they're twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years old, that's
(01:39:40):
when you can maybe sign them to long term deals
like they did with Harper and Machado. I think it was.
But you know, I don't want to sign a guy
that's twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine years old to
an eight, nine, ten year deal. And if that's all
these guys want, then let the Yankees have them.
Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
It's a good point, Ronnie. Thank you for the call.
Seven one, three, two, two five seven. I Ney dominate,
You're up next.
Speaker 13 (01:40:05):
Good morning, Hey, good morning to both y'all. This this
is really addressed to Bryant. No, no disrespect, Sam, but
you'll team the Red Sox, and we know you want
the shows to win. But when I'm listening to Bryant talk,
I can hear the frustration really really, because you know,
he's really really about the shows and for whoa.
Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
You got back that up a little and oh yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes no and lifelong, lifelong Socks fan since I was five.
But my frustration is palpable. I'm just not dumb enough
to buy into I'm not talking about you anybody, and
if it is you, then it is you because I
love you. I'm just not dumb enough to buy into
the fact that we're naive enough to think that I'm
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gonna cry over spilt milk when both are gone.
Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Ain't nothing I can do about it.
Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
Yeah, and if he goes to Boston, I'll crawl ten
miles over broken glasses, say, well, the team we cover
and I love goes to the team I grew up loving.
No issue, if they're going to leave go there instead
of the Yankees.
Speaker 11 (01:41:01):
No, no, no, that's not That's not what I meant.
Speaker 13 (01:41:04):
That's not what I meant.
Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
What I mean.
Speaker 13 (01:41:08):
You're come in coming from okay, cool, you coming from
a place of perspective. I'm coming from a place of
a die hard, die hard fan, and I when I'm
listening to Brian talk, I feel like Brian is on
the same level as me. I'm not saying that you're
gonna cry or still make milk, my man, that's not
at all what I'm saying. What I'm My whole point
of the phone the phone call was this. The narrative
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now was already pretty much out. Whether Tucker's whether they
keep Tucker for a year or you know, to the
next trading deadline or whatnot, it's already out. If you
come up in the Astros farm system or they draft
you or whatever, and they develop you for four, five,
six years, whatever, you become a five.
Speaker 12 (01:41:48):
Tool player like like Tucker is, they're not gonna keep you.
Speaker 11 (01:41:52):
And that's the frustrated thing as a diehard fan.
Speaker 13 (01:41:55):
Whereas if you're a Dodger, if you're a Red Sock,
if you're a Yankee Philly comes even, they're going to
spend that money to keep you and trying to tell
the Ashows fan base that we can't afford you. If
that was true, it's like you were Awak, we were
the Milwaukee Brewers or something like that. I think the
fan base will kind of really truly understand it, but
(01:42:15):
we're not. And so it's just like time and time again,
no matter who the player is, it's like once you
get to a certain part in your career and you
reach that status and the Ashows are not going to
sign you long term. And I think the Hose tu
Bay deal was a was a sweet sweet deal because
Jose like kind of like the last call of Jose
wants to be here now. If Trumper doesn't want to
(01:42:37):
be here, it's nothing you can do about that. But
the narrative across the league, Shine is it is. What
I'm saying is like is already out and as a
true true truth, Like your first team is Boston and
that's great. Well for my first team it's Houston, and
but you know for a fact, Boston's gonna back up
the truck because Boston wants to Boston and New York
they're gonna keep up with each other. We don't have
(01:42:58):
that dealing no more. At least I don't. And when
I'm when I mentioned Bryant, that's where I was coming
from because it's kind of like.
Speaker 8 (01:43:06):
I.
Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Get it because.
Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
Happening, right, I get it because I went through it
when they traded when when they let Mookie Betts go,
when he's a Red Sox your best player, you let go.
Red Sox have done this that they've done it, So
I get your point one hundred percent. I mean, I'm
invested in both. I work for one, but it's you know,
it's like anything. I grew up a Raider fan. If
the Raiders play the Houston tex If the Raiders play
the Houston Texas in the AFC Championship game at some point,
(01:43:32):
guess who I'm rooting for? No, No, I'm Raiders. If
they play against each other, I'm going with where my
heart is. My heart doesn't get changed because I moved locations.
To me, that's a bitch fan.
Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
That ain't me.
Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
If they're not playing the Raiders, I want the Texans
to beat everybody else. That's exactly right.
Speaker 13 (01:43:52):
But sho you know one thing about the Red Sox
that they've done this they have Oh yeah, well recently
the Astros have done him more. And when I mentioned Brian,
all I was trying to say was and maybe I
said it the wrong way, but my whole point was,
and I'll let you go, is say, for instance, Player.
Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
A, you guys grew up them. Now you guys grew
up with him. I get it. You're you're spot on right,
no doubt right.
Speaker 13 (01:44:18):
Player A comes up in the fall, Sister player A
comes up, Chilsey becomes a five star, a five tool player,
like like Tucker. Okay, Now the.
Speaker 12 (01:44:26):
Fan base is like, we're not going to keep him.
Speaker 13 (01:44:29):
Where the threshold is said that this the m O
is just the Houston Astros are not going to keep him,
and the rest of the MLB knows it now. So
it's kind of like it's kind of it's it sucks man,
because it's the business side. I get the business side,
but Tucker Tuckle is a damn good.
Speaker 12 (01:44:47):
Ball player, man, and so is Bregg.
Speaker 13 (01:44:50):
So it's like, you mean to tell me we're coming
in to the offseason, what we would think about that
maybe we could sign Akuchi, maybe maybe we got a
real real chance to keep it.
Speaker 11 (01:44:57):
Bregman.
Speaker 13 (01:44:58):
Now it's like, wait a minute, what and you can't
come and David Brown can't come on here what he can,
but he's not gonna be received. We'll talk about, well,
potentially the process we get. I don't want to hear
that right now. Man, this is it's just it's it
just doesn't feel good. That's all that I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
You are spot on, and I don't disagree with you
one bit. It's it's gonna cut deep. I'm just to
the point where I've expect with this, I expect the
cut to come. Just how you're gonna heal it. You
know you're gonna put staples in it, you're gonna stitch
it up, you're gonna put a band aid on it. Yeah,
you got the choice. That's how it is. He's right,
and he's always makes a great point, just the way
a word had come out of his mouth, like, oh
(01:45:33):
you want him to know? Hell No, I don't want him.
I gotta cover him every day, right, I don't want
him to leave. But if he's gonna leave, you tell
me you got the Dodgers, the Yankees, and the Red
Sox lineup where you want him to go. If you
know you're losing him, I don't care. But I'm talking
about the fan base. Oh, listen to him. Just don't
go to the Yankees. Please stay away from the Dodgers
because of core of my my thought process would be,
(01:45:56):
you'd shove him towards Boston. That just happens to be
a team that I was die hard by, family bled
for when I was growing up.
Speaker 6 (01:46:02):
I was saying, I don't care, meaning whoever gives you
the best haul, right.
Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
That's number.
Speaker 5 (01:46:07):
I don't give a who if Sam Houston State. Point
is that if you're a fan and it was all
equal prospects and everything, you want him in Fenway. You
don't want him in Yankee State. Dodger sure, And he said, well,
let's pu him in the Nation League. Eventually, if they're good,
you're going to meet him anyway. Right, So that that's
the point, and I get it, and he's spot on
(01:46:28):
the emotion you're tied to. It's just like if USC
was vying for the number one recruit in the country
in basketball and Kelvin was going to get him too,
you know, Kelvin's I feel like Kelvin's like family to me.
I love him, matter of fact, he's one of one
of my mentors.
Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Love him.
Speaker 5 (01:46:44):
But if by Trojans could pull it off as an
alma mater. But if I lost out to Kelvin, guess
what I'm doing Because guess how many times I'm going
to be in the USC's basketball game this year as
opposed to Samson's the House and for Tita Center.
Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
We'll be here, right, So that's.
Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
The art that goes But when you're here, you cover
it's like the emotion the thing is and maybe it's
his former player and has nothing to do with who
I root for, Brian, you know what it really is,
And I said, because I played, But there's something that
goes on with players. We get over it quicker than fans,
do you, Honest to God, you just do. So my
emotions over the years have changed from before I started
playing at SC and Minnesota. Your emotions change because you're
(01:47:24):
inside that business model. You're you actually get either you
get obsessed by it or you get burned.
Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
You know, right, You you got the uh since you
played in the league, you got the the super competitive aspect.
Speaker 6 (01:47:34):
But at the end of the day, it's a business,
right and compartment is.
Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
If I took it, if every athlete took it personal,
you'd be miserable the whole life.
Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
And now now that you're a quote unquote regular civilian,
if you will, that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
What I am. It was you you get that, I
get over a loss quicker, and I get over the
emotion of losing, because you know what, inevitably a lot
of things do come to an end.
Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
You just got to know how to.
Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
You used to want to let it faster where ruins you.
It's not a lifetime sentence, is my point. So that
I think that's helped me. Trust me, I was that
Raider fan or that growing up. It's like, wait a second,
I felt like you know, in tears when you're nine
years old when the Raiders lose. But with the ashes
they started to look at listen, it simply comes down
and if the oldest cliche in the world is, oh.
Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
It's a it's a business decision, but in truth it
is that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
It's a billion dollars right If listen, if we all
had a perfect Springer still be in center field, Coreage
still be a short stop, Bregman would be here, and
Kyle Tucker would be your starting right fielder and hitting
number three in your lineup.
Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Or five, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:48:38):
But as the problem is that I've been hitting the
face by it as a player. So if you don't
get over it, so it's carried over in this it's like,
what are you really going to do?
Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
What are you really going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Hell?
Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
I hated to see Dusty go. Joe Spott has proven
he belongs as a manager of Major League Baseball, so
I still love Dusty. Doesn't mean I can't think that
Joe Spott is to do great things. Any art has,
So it just it's I just think the experience of it.
I mean, who doesn't want to be a CEO? But
if the CEO knows what the CEO goes through more
than man, wouldn't that be great? Then when you're sitting
(01:49:12):
in it, you're like, I got to make a business decision.
I like this dude in Man of Life.
Speaker 6 (01:49:15):
Yeah, but it's a business.
Speaker 5 (01:49:16):
My stock off, I got to answer to people. It sucks.
It's it's really a blessing and a curse because I do.
I'll tell you what I do miss is the they
It ruins your day for the I mean I don't
miss it, but I do. You miss that emotion. But
if the Texans lose against Miami, it's gonna suck. I'm
not gonna want to see it. But I'm not waking
up Money. I'll be wake up Money with the fiery
(01:49:37):
attitude kissed, but I'm gonna sleep, okay Monday night. Oh
it's like it's like but I getn't used to when
I played you.
Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Get Over, But like, man, you know you're gonna go
watch the tape. And when I was twelve years old,
it was like it was everything. It was a life.
Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
I've just been able to get to a point where
I'm not letting a pass by c J. Stroud ruined
my week or a mistackle so tough though, man, that's
called the emotional fan.
Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
But play and helped, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
I think what you need to do is you need
to put your replica ring on around your necklace, all right,
put your put your put your Carl's Korea throw back
jersey back on. Okay, dude, I don't even wear coming
to the station tomorrow, ready to go. I don't even
wear my championship rig Okay, why would I wear somebody
else's around your neck on a neck and I'll give
it to a girl to go steady with. Yeah, all right,
(01:50:25):
let's get to break seven one, three, two, one two five,
seven ninety got another loaded phone board.
Speaker 6 (01:50:29):
We'll get to everybody next sports like seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
You're back.
Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Get back at it.
Speaker 5 (01:50:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:50:38):
The band, yeah, I mean the group.
Speaker 1 (01:50:40):
Yeah, the group.
Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
Oh that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
I don't know what you're talking No, tag teams?
Speaker 5 (01:50:43):
Is that being or them?
Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (01:50:45):
Yeah? Right yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Yeah, it's like what a Fred said led Zeppelin. He
thought it was one person. I told you that.
Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Yeah, tag team. They thought a guy's name was lead
and Zeppelin. You know what's funny, this is.
Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
Rand There's plenty of people would think that kind of stuff.
That's what what's that country? Uh?
Speaker 6 (01:51:00):
George line?
Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
No, nobody thinks somebody's names? Man, what's the other one?
Speaker 24 (01:51:05):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
Did they sing? Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Okay, you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Town?
Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
No, nobody's names a little in their last their first
day's big town two first names lady a. No, we've
talked about it before. It's it's it's neither here nor there,
but go ahead. The Dixie Chicks No, okay, no it is?
Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
Are they current?
Speaker 19 (01:51:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:51:25):
We talked about him. I mean there's sing some good
cuts too. There it's not Brooks and Done. It's it
sounds like one. It's one name, but it's two dudes.
And I can't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
I can't even think about it anyway. What was your point?
It'll it'll, it'll come to me, It'll come to me.
Speaker 6 (01:51:43):
Uh yeah, I know. Well yeah, but you know I
got it all right.
Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
So what you're getting ready to say, remember.
Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
The other day, what was the basic white guy name
that we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Homer?
Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
Yeah, sub check this out. We'll get to all callers
and we'll get the nine o'clock hour. Don't go anywhere.
But so I'm driving home from my uh my TENU team. No, no, no,
that was a couple of days ago. You guys have
which is a good thing. Yeah, well check too many times.
But I digress. So I'm driving home from the winter
(01:52:16):
program that my TENU team is going through. Right, So
we got workouts, we got weights, and we have some
agility stuff. Blah blah blah. Driving home, I'm listening to
Sunday ninety nine one, our sister station right across the hall.
Speaker 6 (01:52:25):
Of course, they got Christmas music. I've told you this.
Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
I'm trying to listen to as much Christmas u as
I can, so I get myself into the festival holiday spirit,
right yeah. And during the night it's Delilah de Li
love everybody else. Deliah is right freaking iconic. She's got
a guy that called in. His name is Robert, and
he's telling her about like his favorite traditions for Christmas
blah blah blah. So he tells this story about it
(01:52:51):
was a good story. Him and his wife just bought
a new house. So last year they were in an
apartment with their two kids and they did a blowout
part because they were removed. In this year they're celebrating.
He was like, my wife is a huge fan. Delila goes,
what's your wife's name?
Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Esther?
Speaker 5 (01:53:08):
Oh, that's that's her name is Esther. That's normally would
be born in here's how you break down the basic
white girls.
Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Oh god, Esther is.
Speaker 5 (01:53:19):
Esther normally would have gray short, grandma hair uh huh,
salt and pepper yep and be short. Born nineteen thirty four.
And it's a been in the family's name for all
they've done is changed the middle nest. It's been around forever.
I couldn't believe she'll name her daughter Savannah. Esther Es
(01:53:42):
will be in the name where to pay a tribute
to great great grandma.
Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
And she's as white as the driven snow. I think
their daughter friend's lucent. She's so white.
Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
They had Robert Jr. Was their son's name, and then
their daughter's name was Bianca. And the mom's name is Esther.
Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
Yeah, you know what, there's only one. Now, maybe there
is more, but in my life, Esther's have always been
It sounds like an old I mean, so who's lived
a great life. And you want to go eat dinner
at Esther's house because she makes Grandma makes the greatest.
She's got the biscuits and gravy on the planet. I
got the couch covers.
Speaker 14 (01:54:12):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
And the only Esther that I can remember. And maybe
there's probably a million. Yeah, but we're kind of doing
this tongue in cheeks, as we always do. I'm sure
there's a a brother that's a Homer, not a white guy, right,
maybe not triple you know any brother's name Homer? No, okay.
And a guy who recruited me was one of the
great coaches of all time. Office was Sean Homer Smith.
(01:54:34):
White guy, white guy. Oh yeah, pants pulled up at
higher Esther, Esther roll really from good times.
Speaker 27 (01:54:42):
Look as matter of fact, tripley, could you get that
cut forest maybe coming back and attribute to good times
because good times coming up in the nine good times
for the uh, good times for the Texans, hopefully good
times for the Astros.
Speaker 5 (01:54:56):
They'll pull something off here and it'll be good. But
Esther roll in the rockets to the semis in the NBA,
you know, don't bury the league exactly in their asshole, right, don't.
And they're winning a role, they're winning a lot of
different ways. That may be the only but there's probably
somebody in here who has a maybe. But Esther feels
it's like Zelda. That's an old.
Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
That's that's a that's an old, that's a that's like
a pre nineteen fifty name.
Speaker 12 (01:55:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:55:18):
Yeah, I couldn't believe it because we had had this
discussion about like basic white women name, basic white guy names.
Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
Find me a Tricksy that was born in nineteen thirty Tricksy, Yeah,
I mean you could find her. She'll be performing in
about noon today.
Speaker 6 (01:55:30):
Star, You're up next, Star, You're up Next.
Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
On deck is Trixy Trixy.
Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
Trixy Head to the main stage, Trixy to the main
stage your waitresses.
Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
That's so triggered. Right next up for the men's club.
Speaker 5 (01:55:46):
If that, if somebody comes up to hes, Oh, what's
your name, Trixy? Are you not sideyn or like you am?
Like like you're at dinner, and I'll say, she's sitting
in the bar, I am trick. This is this is
my girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Like, oh yeah, She's like, what do you mean, oh ballet, Hey,
I'm on dader. Oh she's only doing to get through
med school.
Speaker 14 (01:56:03):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
Put some respect, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:56:08):
Esther role may be the only, but it's a that's
a that's an old school in the family name. I
would imagine forever esther my mom, Shirley Anne Sureley's an
old school, an old school name. My grandmother was Nicki
Bell Eagle. Naomi is her name. They called her Nicky,
my grandma and Nicki Mike. My dad called her Nicky
(01:56:30):
nick But my grandma and my dad was six five
two sixty. My grandma Nicky called him Shorty because he.
Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Was so big.
Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
That's she got shoddy right now. She called him Shorty
forever really, so from the from the time I was
born to Mike, Mike, she loves my dad right six.
My dad was my size, but two sixty five, you know,
just a big jud and she called him shorty. You
nine kids in the family when he was but he
was the youngest, you know, she called him shorty always.
But she's now You tell me this isn't as old
(01:56:57):
school name in the family. Naomi Bell Eagle, Naomi Bell.
Speaker 6 (01:57:04):
That was her name, Naomi Belle Eagle.
Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
Nicknamed nick Nikki.
Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
I mean you go through it and there's and and
find me in Naomi.
Speaker 6 (01:57:13):
And maybe there isom Campbell.
Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Yeah born.
Speaker 5 (01:57:15):
No, I'm not talking about I was talking about born
like after two thousand. Anybody naming their kid Naomi? Right, yeah,
probably not. Maybe there is, but if it, but you're
only name it if it runs in the family. It's
a legacy name, right, So it's yeah, Naomi Bell Eagle
old school name.
Speaker 6 (01:57:29):
That is old school man, because I don't know any naomis.
Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
I know one.
Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
I went to college with her. There you go, yeah,
that's it. So yeah, Esther, Esther, I couldn't believe it, dude,
Oh my god, it's actually real. Esther Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
Seven one three, two one two five seven ninety got
a lot of people that want to get in and
talk about Kyle Tucker. Will get to you guys next
as we start the nine o'clock hour right here on
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
To USC truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima, Manuel Elmore, Rockets beat the Warriors
are headed to Vegas for the semifinals of the NBA Cup.
Texans safety Jalen Petrie out for the season with the
pectoral Andrew bill Belichick is the new head football coach
at the University of North Carolina. Talking about Kyle Tucker,
Alex Bregman, the Winter Meetings, free agency full phone board.
Let's get to everybody seven one three, two, one two
(01:58:51):
five seven ninety. We'll start with our guy Brandon.
Speaker 5 (01:58:53):
Hello, Brandon, Good morning, Brian, Shawn Tier two. Come on now,
let's start this over.
Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
What's that Brandon under?
Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Okay, I'm I I decided the Wackets won.
Speaker 5 (01:59:07):
Yeah, hell of a game. Huh. Big win for them?
Speaker 28 (01:59:10):
Yep, ninety I think it was ninety one.
Speaker 5 (01:59:13):
I think yeah, they had what there was ninety Yes,
scored ninety one point. A couple free throws at the
end got the win for him and a good stop
on defense. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
I didn't watch it, but I will watch it on
the we play if you can check.
Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
But you know, you check with what Siri or Amazon,
whatever it is you want to do, you'll you can
get that answer. If you don't watch it, that's a
smart way to do.
Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
But we'll watching your team.
Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
Yeah, the semi finals, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
Are we playing the Thunder Saturday?
Speaker 15 (01:59:44):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:59:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
Is it Saturday?
Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
Because it's Yeah, that's exactly who they played my man
spot on yeh, I think the Do you think the uh?
You think the Texans beat the Miami Dolphins on Sunday?
Speaker 26 (01:59:56):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:59:57):
They will like your confidence, like your I hope so
be a good start to this three game run here,
tough three game run. Good stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:00:05):
Brandon, who's your favorite reindeer?
Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Waen the Rudolf Damn Ryan?
Speaker 5 (02:00:11):
So I'm talking about Brandon Rudolphine hesitation, No, big go Brandon,
Thank you brother. I hope you have a great night
and good stuff on the rockets. Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 6 (02:00:19):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 17 (02:00:20):
Brandon, have a good thank you too.
Speaker 6 (02:00:23):
Let's talk to John.
Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
What's up John?
Speaker 14 (02:00:26):
Hey, fellas, fellas, how y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (02:00:29):
Great?
Speaker 14 (02:00:31):
Hey Man? Look, you know I love the way I've
never had any complaints about the way Crane does his
system because, frankly, I've never believed in a very very
few people players I believe in giving a ten year
contract too, because very very few of them are great
for ten years. You know, Gregman and Kyle Tucker. Kyle
(02:00:51):
Tuck is really my favorite player. He was from day one,
even when I was hearing about him in Triple A
and I for some reason, I always had feeling that
Kyle was not gonna be here, and especially if he
turned out to be a pretty really good play and
the way the money is out there now after one Soto,
you know, I don't expect Kyle to be here. Kyle
(02:01:12):
got a championship, Reglan got two championships. You know, if
I was in there shoes, the smart move is say, hey,
I got my championships. Now I need to get my money,
so you know, go ahead on but this is my
point I'm making here. Dana Brown, Okay, Dana Brown last season, Okay,
he signed what's that closing name? Man, see, I don't
remember his name. That's how I feel about it. Josh Yeah,
(02:01:35):
Josh Hater, Josh Hater. Now, I don't know, I know
me and I think a lot of people we were
totally surprised Daniel Brown bust out and signed Hater because
most of us didn't think that at that particular time
that our top priority was that we needed a closer
because Preston would have had a few injuries, but Press
(02:01:56):
had been doing just fine for us. So anyway, he signed,
he signed Josh Hayden. We know what he was trying
to do. Have Josh Hayden. Those have presh to come
in the eight inning and uh uh the other kid
come in the seven in it. But it didn't work
out like that. And when we look at it and everything,
the money that they paid Josh haden what Josh Sayden
(02:02:19):
wasn't the close that came in and just shut things down. Man,
he was he was Okay, he gave up a lot
of games in the ninety and and he won some,
he gave some, but that that for us.
Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
I'm concerned personally.
Speaker 14 (02:02:33):
You know that that was kind of a failure on
that on Dana Brown. But this is the point now
this year to me, Dana Brown, this is your first year,
sir as the general manager. Crane brought you here to
keep this train rolling, baby, And if Tucker and Bregman
(02:02:54):
is gone, your job now as a great general runt
manager is to bring in some talent keep this train going.
You know this is on Dana Brown man. You know
he's got to keep going. It is now his job.
Last year he brought in gambled, He brought in a
couple of other players, trying to get some guys to
(02:03:16):
be able to hit out there. And I be he
just kicked the tap here and Dad, but.
Speaker 6 (02:03:20):
John, sorry to get to a couple of guys that man.
Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (02:03:26):
Let's talk to Gill before we get to break Gil.
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (02:03:29):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
So?
Speaker 12 (02:03:31):
Uh correct me if I'm wrong? Didn't his Tucker's brother
put the put his brother, little brother Tucker.
Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
Well, Preston Tucker, older brother Preston Tucker. Yes, what about him?
Speaker 12 (02:03:44):
He kept putting, He kept putting Tucker in the astro's ear.
Why would why would Tucker. What's god damn, what's his name?
Speaker 27 (02:03:52):
Now?
Speaker 12 (02:03:52):
What's the new one?
Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
There's Preston Tucker is the one that was drafted by
the Astros.
Speaker 6 (02:03:56):
That's the old one. And then there's Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Wow, okayy.
Speaker 12 (02:04:00):
Why would he let him do that so the Astros
would go get him if he didn't really want to
be here? Because I remember securely that Preston kept saying,
you'll better get my little brother. You better get beat
think I'm good, y'all, better get my little brother.
Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
You mean drafting if you're drafting Kyle Tucker. Yes, yeah,
Preston Tucker was terrible with the Astros.
Speaker 14 (02:04:19):
He I think he had a heavy back.
Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
But you know, no, he was not very good. That's
why he went and played in Korea, I think. But
either way, but either way, I mean, you were not
going to pass up on drafting Kyle Tucker back then
like that.
Speaker 6 (02:04:32):
He was a different right place.
Speaker 12 (02:04:34):
What I'm saying is, why would Kyle let his brother
put keep putting him in his in the Astros? Ear,
go get my little brother, go get if he didn't
really want to come here.
Speaker 6 (02:04:42):
No, that's not I think you're you're confused.
Speaker 5 (02:04:44):
He he want.
Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
I mean, if you're gonna get drafted number one or
two or three or whatever it was, overall, you're gonna
go where the destination is and then you're gonna play
out your rookie contract. And maybe there's some things that happen,
you know, for Kyle Tucker being here in the city
that he didn't want to be, and he's gonna just
finish out his rookie career or rookie contract, try and
be as good as he can be, and then get
a contract to go play somewhere else. We don't know,
(02:05:05):
but I don't think his brother had anything to do
with you were there. The Astros were gonna draft him regardless.
Speaker 12 (02:05:11):
Oh okay, I didn't know. You know who Tucker Kyle was.
His brother started no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (02:05:16):
Kyle was like one of the most coveted uh prospects
of high school.
Speaker 12 (02:05:21):
Oh yeah, all right, And anyway, and I have an
old buddy of friend. His name is or Reel. He's
always pissed off. I wonder why he's like eighty six
years old or what is it? Or his name is Orriel.
Speaker 17 (02:05:35):
So you know, I thought my buddies, like why is
why is over always mad?
Speaker 12 (02:05:39):
Who God Dame gets grew up with the name over
I do you feel spell and spell it for me?
Speaker 11 (02:05:45):
I don't like or real red Rock.
Speaker 5 (02:05:49):
I thought you were saying Oriole. I mean like the
Orville or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
Yeah, a white But.
Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
I'm gonna tell you what your name recognition on this
call absolutely sucked at you got you got Kyle Tucker,
John Tucker, Tucker, booth uh Walker.
Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
Yeah, yeah, mother Tucker.
Speaker 14 (02:06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
Now you can't pronounce Orville. Get the hell off on
waives love you. Gil is Orville.
Speaker 5 (02:06:22):
I was gonna say that could and if you look
at Orville Reddenbacker on the popcorn, Yeah, the ultimate white guy.
Ultimate born in like eighteen seventy, uh huh, okay, whister
the test of time. It's kind of like Colonel Sanders.
Speaker 2 (02:06:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:06:41):
They were like tight growing up right. I don't know
if they were. But Orville, Yeah is Oh that that's
that's Whitey on the moon Man.
Speaker 6 (02:06:50):
Couldn't couldn't, couldn't. Oriole was Preston.
Speaker 5 (02:06:55):
Who's the new one?
Speaker 15 (02:06:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:06:56):
Yeah, the new one.
Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
Preston Wilson became rest.
Speaker 4 (02:07:00):
In Tucker won a brother one not By the way,
Kyle Tucker, coming out of high school was the Gator
Ready Player of the Year for Florida.
Speaker 6 (02:07:07):
He was picked fifth overall.
Speaker 5 (02:07:09):
Yeah, he was pretty good. He's been pretty good since
he waltzed in here. After about the first hundred at
bats in the Astros he started to catch fire. On
The rest is history. Yeah, the rest is history. Uh,
in his career here is probably history. I would say
you're probably right about that.
Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
Seven one, three, two, two five seven and got got
a lot of people want to get in. We'll get
to you guys next. Talk about these uh these you
know reports, the trade rumors for Kyle Tucker. Apparently the
Phillies are now discussing a package with the Astros to
try to get Kyle Tucker. So we'll see what that's
about as well. Next shotgun.
Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
With someone who's thrown from the shotgun football and what
helmet to helmet? Sewan Salisbury, Brian, you want to see
what real football looks like. This is the Sean Salisbury
Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:08:00):
You see how it goes. That's pretty spot on.
Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
And then they did they charge you seventy tip in
your hose and then at the bill time all your homies.
Speaker 4 (02:08:07):
Yeah, yeah, like oh it either man over here you
gotta get out of here.
Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
Hey, I got you.
Speaker 6 (02:08:15):
Yeah, mo Dog, I'll see you back at the house.
Speaker 4 (02:08:18):
Yeah, to get back out to the phone line seven
one three seven, Jesse, good morning, Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
I think you took my call.
Speaker 29 (02:08:27):
So I was thinking about this, and the only reason
that Dana Brown should be talking to the Yankees is
to drive up the price on the other teams. Right anyway,
having Kyle Tucker bat in front of Aaron Judge for the.
Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
Future would be a travesty.
Speaker 13 (02:08:51):
And I just want to get your thoughts on that,
and I'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 6 (02:08:53):
Thank you, Jesse.
Speaker 4 (02:08:54):
I said this earlier, Sean, I don't give a damn
where they trade him. Honestly, this may not be a
popular opinion, but I don't give it. You know what,
if the Yankees are going to give the best package,
the best haul for Kyle Tucker, send them to the Bronx,
I don't give a damn. Yeah, if they give us
three or four of their top prospects or Luis Gill
or Yale or however he pronounces damn last night, heel
(02:09:17):
plus an everyday guy, and they're really good players, bring him.
I don't care at this point I'm doing I don't care.
Give us the best return. And here's what help send
them the Rangers. I don't give a damn.
Speaker 5 (02:09:27):
Here's what the front office can't do. Yeah, Now, during
a season, you wouldn't trade like in football, you ain't
trade a great player in the division. Yeah, you tried,
unless they give you an off you can't refuse, like
let's say, trade deadline football wide receivers in the division.
You're trading somebody to get somebody. It's like, well, man,
we win big on this, we'll give up. Let's do
it right. But most of the time you don't in
this case, and I understand the callers disdained from the Yankees,
(02:09:50):
but there's not There's no chance in hell that the
front office is thinking who's the person, I mean, who's
the team. They're thinking, what's the team got right exactly?
You're not because if now, let's just say the Phillies
and the Yankees both offer the exact you feel like
it's a it's a lateral move no matter which team
you deal with, right, if you want right, you keep Maddy.
(02:10:12):
You're the only time you really see him when it
really really matters. In the World Series, and if you
want to stick it to somebody a little bit of that.
If you're into that a little bit, you can get
a dig in. You're not getting the dig in or
keeping them away. If it's the best offer, if the
Yankees coming and blow everybody else away, I don't give
a fuzzy rats ass who if the Yankees and the
Yankees can brag about it forever if we get a
(02:10:34):
good deal about it, great now situation. And I assure,
and he makes a good point as that, that's we
can't think. If you're a front office, you can't think
like us and the fans. The front office has got
to be able to separate themselves from it's the Yankees.
I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
Well, didn't they give you the best offer?
Speaker 7 (02:10:51):
You have it?
Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
I hate the Yankees.
Speaker 5 (02:10:52):
A front general manager owner can't think that, what's the
best deal that enhances our team? I don't give a
damn about them. Once he's out the building, I give
a damn about us. What's the return if it's if
the the r o I is bigger with the Yankees
than it is with Philly or Boston or anybody else.
He's the Yankee right fielder.
Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
Yeah, man and then and then then the Yankees would
have two guys that disappear in October.
Speaker 6 (02:11:15):
Crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:11:16):
There you go, it's crazy, that's harsh, But that's true though.
And if they and if both of them play like
they do in the regular season the.
Speaker 4 (02:11:23):
Yanks World Series, then it comes back to my thought process. Look,
but it helps improve the organization then, But.
Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
I do get the fan base's of motion. Do whatever
you do. Don't trade him there. But can you imagine
what the fan base would say, is if they said, well,
we offered him our first in our third prospect plus
two players, and you dealt with somebody else because it
was the Yankees, we'd go crazyis oh?
Speaker 6 (02:11:45):
Absolutely, yeah, would There's no doubt Tony.
Speaker 18 (02:11:49):
Good morning, Good morning guys. Kyle Tucker's from Tampa, Florida. Correct,
Tampa's getting a new Tampa's getting a new ballpark. I
think it's on online in twenty seven or twenty eight.
The obvious choice here is to trade him to Tampa Bay.
I said last offseason, we had three chips. We had
we had Valdiez, we had Tucker, and we had Regman.
(02:12:10):
And the only one that I think they might consider
keeping would be Valdez because he's a left handed pitcher.
But we missed on Bregman. That's one ship that's gone.
He's gone now if you don't trade Tucker in this offseason.
John said earlier about keeping things rolling, it's not just
about the draft because you're you've been drafting.
Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
Low low low for years.
Speaker 18 (02:12:31):
You got to be creative here, and if you don't
pull the trigger on the you're going to be in
the same boat with Tucker this time next year as
you are with Bregman. I promise you he's not staying so,
so you've got to pull the trigger on a deal.
I would trade him to Tampa Bay because.
Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
They have pitching.
Speaker 18 (02:12:48):
I would get some pitching man pitching wins championships. I
think the melting kid down at you know, it's not
he's not a sure thing, but the kid is a
He's a potential leadoff hitter man. I would love to
get al Tuo Bay out of the leadoff spot and
get him in the two hole. Get us a legitimate
center fielder that can go get the ball and hit
and run, which I think Jacob Melton fits that. Bill
(02:13:11):
and I also would keep an eye on Bryce Matthews
and uh, the Yonick kid from from sam Houston as
the catcher starting mot playing dias. Play him a lot
in spring at first base, play him a lot at
first base.
Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
I don't think he's the future behind the plague. That's
all I got, guys.
Speaker 4 (02:13:28):
Thank you, Tony good points Man. Yeah, I love the
the kid that got from sam Houston. That kid is
is supposed to be a monster.
Speaker 5 (02:13:34):
He's to be really good hose, which would free which
would free up the versatility of a guy like Karatini.
And if he gets it, he's got what. He's got
a hose that he's also got a good arm. Yeah, yeah,
I got that. Late guy's got a hose. And oh,
by the way, he's got a great arm. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:13:53):
A child, Manuel, I mean, grow up dude.
Speaker 5 (02:13:56):
Yeah. The only the crazy thing about it, the youngest
guy on the that is the most story, is the
most mature of all of us. And and the natural
progression is at some point in time, Yan ord Is
is your first baseman, right, yeah, I'm not talking about
next year, but the natural the Joe, I mean Piazza,
Joe Mauer. If you're a good hitter and you want
(02:14:17):
to preserve it, you try to milk about five or
six All star years that I'm gonna get your ask
the first base. And if you have a great catcher
backing you up and a young one, get him there sooner, right,
you just do.
Speaker 4 (02:14:28):
Apparently the organization's high on this kid from Sam Houston,
John I've done.
Speaker 27 (02:14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:14:32):
I think Steve Sparks has talked about him and held
him high regards to YEA.
Speaker 6 (02:14:37):
Kid can kid can swing it, and he's got a.
Speaker 5 (02:14:40):
Tell you, tell you he can swing it. And he's
also got a really good bat. Brian's an idiot. What
a hose by the way, I you've seen his arm
and yeah, but I'll tell you what, man, when he's
at the plate, he got a hold.
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The Seawn Salisbury Show continued, He's a base white guy.
Speaker 5 (02:17:30):
No, it's like tuck your tuck your table between your legs.
Tuck you're having to legs cause you ask you by
right later. He's an easy guy to wish well, no
matter where he goes. The one thing about it, does
he ever bother anybody?
Speaker 2 (02:17:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:17:43):
He just great player who just kind of goes about
his business. Whoever gets him is gonna be awful lucky.
Speaker 6 (02:17:48):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:17:49):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (02:17:49):
Give him a five tool player man.
Speaker 5 (02:17:51):
And they hope he has like a really good season
right here, just not a great one because it'll go
from three fifty to about four hun undred.
Speaker 6 (02:17:57):
Yeah, ye, crazy money man, Wesley, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
Oh? Just another beautiful day in lake Charles?
Speaker 6 (02:18:05):
Oh jealous man at the casino, man, Yeah, jealous.
Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Well that's where it works though.
Speaker 30 (02:18:10):
Oh yeah, I'm passing patsor Penderson right now on two ten.
Speaker 6 (02:18:15):
Okay, what caino do you work? What casino?
Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
The only one of late Charles the nugget of course?
Speaker 4 (02:18:22):
Good yeah, good answer. I don't know, man, I like
the horse shoe on the other side, man, it's not
bad well, if.
Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
You're looking for a trailer, that's where you go.
Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Damn right.
Speaker 4 (02:18:30):
I love lower class casinos. Find all our tables, got
my got my name written all over it. Not too
proud to beg for the five dollars table. There's no
I love the gold ruget, man, there's no doubt.
Speaker 12 (02:18:40):
Man.
Speaker 6 (02:18:40):
I was just there a couple of weeks ago. Actually,
you go, what's on your mind, my man?
Speaker 30 (02:18:44):
Yeah, yeah, guys, I was just I haven't heard it,
you know, much about how the front office screwed up
the whole Tucker deal over the past two years. You know,
I really believe they could have signed him for like
an eight year, one fifty one sixty, you know, for
the past two years, but it just kept kicking the
can down the road. And it's it's just frustrating, you
know when they you know, I mean Tucker, he has
(02:19:05):
no reason to stay.
Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
I mean, they screwed him an arbitration.
Speaker 30 (02:19:08):
He made well at twelve or fifty million last year,
you know, you know because of the arbitration, you know,
and you know, it's just things like that that people
aren't really talking about. It's you know, it's it's the
front office making all.
Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
These bonehead moves.
Speaker 30 (02:19:21):
It's not that they can't keep Tucker. They chose to
take a chance. And the longer you wait, the more
expensive it gets. And that that's to me, that's what's frustrating.
You just can't keep keeping like the whole like with
Soda sign and his zal that just made it more expensive.
Speaker 2 (02:19:34):
And it is this every year just adds on and
adds on and adds on. You know, it's frustrating as
a fan.
Speaker 5 (02:19:40):
Yeah, you know what this has become, like it or not,
it's become. Instead of being proactive early, they've been reactive
late and that's.
Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
What it is.
Speaker 30 (02:19:49):
Yeah, and it's crazy, you know, and you know they
you think about it, you know, they could have I
mean I really think they could have you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:19:56):
Bregman is a pregnant I mean you can't knew much
about that now.
Speaker 30 (02:19:59):
But like but Tucker, they God, they could have find
Tucker that could have been public kept Kakuchi, you know,
was with the money.
Speaker 2 (02:20:07):
And it's just so frustrating as a fan. You know,
as a quote unquote unquote mid market.
Speaker 30 (02:20:12):
Team, you know you have the talent to keep, but
you know, just to the front office decisions that they
don't get criticized enough for the actions that they take.
Speaker 5 (02:20:21):
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (02:20:22):
Good point, good point, Weston. Appreciate you. Let's keep rolling.
Seven three seven ninety Mike, thanks for holding.
Speaker 6 (02:20:29):
Good morning.
Speaker 24 (02:20:31):
What's up, fellows.
Speaker 12 (02:20:32):
How you doing, Sean By, how's it going great? Well's
I want to talk about the Rockets win last night,
But first Sea about your comments earlier with the name
Esther Man.
Speaker 15 (02:20:42):
You hit the nail right on the on that head
with that.
Speaker 12 (02:20:46):
My grandma was born in nineteen thirty two, and then
she had my mom and her name was Esther, and
she named my mom was born in nineteen fifty Esther Rude.
Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
And I just thought that was so I I.
Speaker 5 (02:21:01):
Perfect names together too, Esther and Ruth. They go into
Esther Ruth, and that is that's like a three nineteen
forty name. It is, like I said, and you just
you know, it's like a legacy name that this Graham
on that ground and it's awesome. But that is one
of those names you're not waking up more than likely,
unless it's a legacy, you're not waking up in twenty
twenty four. You know, I think I'll name my kid
(02:21:22):
Esther Ruth it's just it really is like an old
school name.
Speaker 11 (02:21:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:21:25):
Nothing wrong with it, but it's a little old school,
that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (02:21:30):
Uh, what was I gonna say?
Speaker 1 (02:21:32):
The Rockets Wait, it was a good glos keep on.
Speaker 12 (02:21:35):
Social media are already crying about the rest. I think
the rest were equally bad both sides, and we just
got lucky at the end when I just want to
get y'all take on that and.
Speaker 1 (02:21:44):
Not hang up.
Speaker 6 (02:21:45):
Appreciate you, Mike.
Speaker 4 (02:21:47):
Yeah, we we played the audio of Steve Kerr whinding
and complaining about the referees. That's one of those late calls.
But you know, let him bitch, let them, let him complain,
because excuse me. The Rockets, no there took them down
ninety one ninety first time in uh four years. They
beat the Warriors alprin Shangoon is a walking double double
(02:22:08):
twenty six and eleven for uh Shngoon last night. So
they'll play the Oklahoma City Thunder in Vegas on Saturday
night in the NBA Cup semi.
Speaker 5 (02:22:16):
In the other semi that I haven't lost the Hawks.
Speaker 6 (02:22:19):
And let me double check. Let's take a look at it.
Speaker 4 (02:22:24):
Saturday nights over Innviva Las Vegas, it's the Atlanta Hawks
and the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 5 (02:22:33):
Hawks and Bucks. Okay, yeah, Hawks and Bucks. Man, Like
was it last night of the night before? Jannis had
a vicious dunk with a left hand off the dribble.
Speaker 2 (02:22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:22:41):
Oh it was like one of those quick jump dunks,
you know what I'm saying, And it was it was nasty.
Speaker 12 (02:22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:22:46):
Yeah, that's uh so, Hawks, Bucks, Oklahoma City and yeah,
and the Rockets. Yeah, don't take it if you're if
you're the the Rockets, don't take a deep breath, man,
go finish this thing, right.
Speaker 4 (02:22:58):
Yeah, no doubt man, especially with that quick dunk by
uh By Jannis Antetokumbo, want you you know quick? Yeah, yeah,
quickly dunk down on these nuts. Yeah, dunk out of
these honest Ryan. We got forty five seconds for you man.
Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
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There was a tricksy there.
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Speaker 5 (02:23:34):
Trick Okay, since you DJ, I need you to tell
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Speaker 5 (02:24:00):
I have done that, but the way he carries out Tricksy,
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Speaker 16 (02:24:08):
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Come on, got forty five seconds'll be real quick.
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Tricksy.
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You're up next, Tricksy, but the tricksy to the main
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You're up next to the main stage, tricksy.
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Down there too, No, no, no, Rich was all Montrose.
Speaker 6 (02:27:31):
Yeah you know about Montros, don't you?
Speaker 2 (02:27:33):
Ye? Don't you? Hey?
Speaker 1 (02:27:34):
Do me a favor off?
Speaker 6 (02:27:35):
You like Montrose?
Speaker 29 (02:27:35):
Huh?
Speaker 14 (02:27:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:27:36):
Memory? Could you just give me the exact address because
I know you have that memorized too, Johnny Ron.
Speaker 28 (02:27:42):
Hey, bron, How was that call? How's your cough man?
Speaker 2 (02:27:44):
You're doing better on your call and everything? You're feeling better?
Speaker 4 (02:27:48):
He worried about No, I feel like he's he's you know,
he's about to say cough on these nuts, or he's
gonna say something he ain't the genuine.
Speaker 6 (02:27:53):
Right now, get them nuts.
Speaker 5 (02:27:56):
I told you I knew it. See I told you,
I told you. What's your comment on?
Speaker 8 (02:28:01):
Check it out?
Speaker 5 (02:28:02):
So we been checking it out for a minute. Fifteen, John,
let's go, man, we're looking.
Speaker 1 (02:28:13):
Country bumpkin ass.
Speaker 9 (02:28:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 28 (02:28:15):
Why John Sean said it right. Everybody's not listening and hearing.
He may not want to come back to the astros
number one. Number two. People have been saying, why they wait,
why they wait?
Speaker 2 (02:28:27):
You have to remember something to people.
Speaker 28 (02:28:29):
These guys, these players have people in their ears. It's
called agents, it's called parents, it's called friends and family. Man,
don't sign these deals. Old Kanye's gotta sign his deal.
Solsia's gotta sign his deal. They're looking for the money.
Speaker 2 (02:28:45):
Kyle Turkey, you want to go.
Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
To Chicago, tear your ass on.
Speaker 28 (02:28:49):
Southwest Airlines will tear your ass over there.
Speaker 2 (02:28:53):
You don't want to be here, then, don't Okay? Break
mean the same thing.
Speaker 28 (02:28:57):
I think Breakman's going to Boston.
Speaker 2 (02:28:58):
I said that a few weeks ago.
Speaker 28 (02:29:01):
But everybody's you know, y'all want to be in an
uproar about management and ownership not doing their job.
Speaker 2 (02:29:08):
Call them, tell them you're willing.
Speaker 28 (02:29:11):
To spend more money on seats concessions. T shirts, caps, parking, whatever.
If you're willing to spend that more money, let them know.
Speaker 15 (02:29:26):
Let Crane know.
Speaker 1 (02:29:27):
It's gonna fall on death ears.
Speaker 28 (02:29:28):
But Sean, let me ask you this, Now, who do
you think is gonna win the Heisman?
Speaker 5 (02:29:35):
I think it's gonna be Hunter, and I think gent
should be first.
Speaker 28 (02:29:39):
Thank you very much. Hey, wajo any about to sit
there and says, Travis Hunter is the best player in
the nation. Have lost their damn ound.
Speaker 5 (02:29:48):
The top five. I think he's the prospect prospect, not
one of the best. Top corner.
Speaker 28 (02:29:54):
He's a top he's a good corner.
Speaker 14 (02:29:57):
But I can tell you this.
Speaker 28 (02:29:58):
Let him go up against nie go or uh uh
some of the cat the cat up in uh C. Yeah,
let him go up against the six foot two, six
foot three and ten pound wide receivers. You gonna get
his one hundred and sixty pound ass put on the ground.
Speaker 5 (02:30:14):
There you go, hey real quick?
Speaker 1 (02:30:16):
No, I mean, yeah, it's gonna happen, but.
Speaker 5 (02:30:19):
He's probably gonna win it. But I'd vote Genty first,
and I think I would. I would say I would
take Hunter in the top five in the NFL draft.
But I Genty to me did more in college foot.
I'm not about the versatility. I'm just about as a
player this year, considering I would I would vote for him. Hey,
real quick, so you mentioned concessions, Just real quick? Yes
or no? Would you concede to the uh, to the
(02:30:42):
astros to to raise ticket prices and stuff to keep guy?
Are you conceding.
Speaker 1 (02:30:49):
Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (02:30:50):
Honestly I will honestly, yeah, I'm being serious. Would you
concede the higher tickets? Yes? Yes, all right, will do
me a favor while I can side these nothing on
your forehead. I love Johnny Roger.
Speaker 4 (02:31:07):
We got we carved out about Yeah, we carved out
about a minute for your brother.
Speaker 6 (02:31:10):
Thanks for holding what's going on?
Speaker 15 (02:31:13):
Nothing?
Speaker 8 (02:31:14):
Man?
Speaker 32 (02:31:14):
Let me let me erase the chalkbow while I'm trying
to find my zekevrichis Jesus man anyway? Uh so, yeah,
on the after the Bregant, if they would have, if
they're so hot to trot and these guys we're talking
to this, we're talking to him, we're moving him. They
haven't moved Jack Squat yet because they haven't found the
right deal yet. So all this is just what it
(02:31:34):
is talk conjecture. I mean, if that hasn't happened. Yet
then this hasn't happened. They haven't found the right deal
because we're not giving away that these guys were just
you know Pittons.
Speaker 12 (02:31:44):
These guys are gonna happen.
Speaker 32 (02:31:45):
They're gonna get It's gonna make it hurt, just like
it made it hurt what we love when we signed
to Tucci.
Speaker 8 (02:31:50):
So it is what it is, matter until it's not.
So everyber all that talk is just what it is,
a bunch of talk.
Speaker 5 (02:31:57):
Hit him straight man, and and you know it while
it is talk, and that that's what makes for good radio.
We're all mantering about what ifs, and at some point
when somebody makes the right deal, Kyle Tucker will be traded. Yeah,
pretty simple, man. Would you think God, who's you said?
Can see?
Speaker 6 (02:32:13):
Like four times He's like, yeah, I can see.
Speaker 1 (02:32:16):
Au Tripley got his ass.
Speaker 6 (02:32:23):
Ye, Hey we got we have Festive Friday tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (02:32:27):
Yeah, I'm right. Who doesn't love it? I need you
in the spirit, though, Let's get you in the spirit.
Speaker 1 (02:32:32):
I've been We're going to get you in the spirit.
Speaker 14 (02:32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:32:35):
Dana Tyson, producer Anthony every morning damn grits. Yeah, right
across the hall man, good stuff. Today, great insight from
our callers. Honestly, we had some phenomenal insight and a
lot of differing opinion, which I do like as well.
Speaker 4 (02:32:48):
Fester Friday. Tomorrow, we'll also talk Texans and Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (02:32:51):
Big, big, huge break, a well deep dive into the
Texans tomorrow. And the only thing that will disrupt that
is if Bregman or Tucker moved between now and then,
but it won't disrup We'll still.
Speaker 1 (02:33:00):
Get it in.
Speaker 8 (02:33:01):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (02:33:01):
Jalen Petrie, that's a big one we're gonna cover as well.
He's out for the season.
Speaker 5 (02:33:04):
Yeah, that and he was having a Pro Bowl year.
Speaker 6 (02:33:07):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 4 (02:33:08):
So we got a big show for you guys tomorrow,
so make sure to tune in. Start at six o'clock.
He is Sean Salisbury. Our producer is Triple Emmanuel Elmore.
I'm Brian Lilma. Thank you for listening. The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross is next on seven ninety
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