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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury, Oy Houston.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Seawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
To usc truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Shawn Salsbury Show.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Brian Lima, Manuel Elmore, Dan Matthews from the A team
sitting in today. Sean is out on vacation. Rockets at
the Pelicans seven pm. Tip off tonight, six o'clock launch
pat right here on seven out of your home four
Rockets Basketball. The Texans get embarrassed yesterday on Christmas by
the Ravens. Chiefs dominate the Steelers. Dan tripley hope, you

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guys had a fantastic Christmas Day. We're back at it
this morning, and my god, the Texans looked atrocious.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
What's up, fellows, good morning.

Speaker 7 (00:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (00:56):
I was gonna say, I think the presence the day,
drinking yesterday, all the food throughout the day, that was
definitely the highlight. It was a Texans game that, as
I simply put out in gift form on social media,
I had a fighter pilot ejecting out of a jet

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and after that final touchdown by the Ravens, I said, Yep,
that's it for me.

Speaker 7 (01:20):
I'm not watching this anymore. I mean, it was.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Embarrassing, it was atrocious, it was awful. I mean, any
adjective you can think of to describe that game. Being
awful is the way to do it. They scored two points,
two two points, and that was on a safety of

(01:46):
Lamar Jackson. Finally someone able to get him down. And
it was dude, it was an ass beating of all sorts.

Speaker 8 (01:53):
Dan Well, it was an ass beating on both sides.
I mean because even offensively, and we can get into
that as the show goes along.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
This offense is a joke.

Speaker 8 (02:04):
I mean it is, and it's unfortunate to say that
because we had such high hopes coming into this season.
But remember, and I think I've made the comparison with you, Brian,
is that you know, in some ways, this Texans season
almost kind of mirrors the Astros last season, where the offense,
we have such high hopes for the offense and it's

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a bunch of singles and solo home runs, and it's
it's a bunch of not coming through with runners in
scoring position and just every single frustrating thing you can
think of with that offense. It's the same deal with
this Texans offense and you know, I tease it out
last night and we'll talk about as the show goes along.
But you know, I know that Bobby Slowick wears a

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lot of the blame. I know that the offensive want
line wears.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
A lot of the blame. But I think that there's
another place that the blame needs to go. And I
think some people don't necessarily want to go that way.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Yeah, I think I know what you refer too. I
think CJ.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Stroud has not played good football, especially as of late.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yesterday was another.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Another performance where he didn't throw for over two hundred yards.
He was seventeen to thirty one and eighty five yards,
no touchdowns, one interception. He was sacked five times, but
a couple of those could have thrown the football away.
Joe Mixon was non existent, nine carries twenty six yards,
Damian Pierce five carries, thirteen yards. As a team, they

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rushed for fifty eight yards total. And you know, at
some point yesterday I'm thinking, ah, well, we may hear
the excuse of while they're playing three games in eleven days. Well,
so did the Chiefs, so did the Ravens, and so
did the Steelers. The Steelers got their Asshiop yesterday too,
but at least they put up ten points on the
board against the Chiefs. The Texans managed two points. This

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offense is a problem, and it's not a problem in
the good way. And another thing that I put out
on social media, Dan, is this whole season, we have
heard a lot of gripes about Bobby Slowick. I've brought
it up to Sean multiple times and we have gone
back and forth, you know, discussing. Yeah, some of the
play calls don't make sense. But at the end of

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the day, players have to execute. But where does it
get to a point where there is no execution? And
how does that fall on Bobby Slowg's play calling or
does that go all the way to the top two
Demiko ryans Bobby Sloak's play calling. This is where I'm at, Dan,
Bobby Slog's play calling sucks.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
It sucks. Yeah, there's no disagreement.

Speaker 8 (04:39):
I mean, there is zero disagreement from me on that
because I mean, there is no imagination. I at least
from what I can see, there's no check with me.
Is there's no It's basically, here's the play call, run
it like it or not. I mean, and I just
I don't know of an offensive coordinator in the NFL
who can honestly successfully operate that way. And I mean,

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you know what, it kind of reminds me of did
you ever watch the show Below Deck?

Speaker 6 (05:06):
No, I've heard of it. Never saw it though.

Speaker 8 (05:08):
Okay, so there was a there was a part in
in one of the seasons where somebody on the staff said,
you know, oh, we told the guests what they wanted,
and her response was, no, They've paid a lot of
money for this experience. They tell you what they want.
Like that, in essence, is an offensive coordinator in the NFL.
Like you don't tell the quarterback what he does. I mean,

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I get that, you give him direction, you give them
all these things. But let me tell you what a
successful offensive coordinator in the NFL does, CJ.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
What do you do well? What can we do more of?
How do we do more of that?

Speaker 8 (05:40):
There's collaboration here, and it just doesn't seem like there's
any collaboration. It seems like, as a matter of fact,
there's a guy that's in over his head. And I
mean he goes to the podium every single Thursday and
we get a minute and a half of word salad
from him because he's seriously whenever he's at the podium,
Brian looks like a guy who's like one of our buddies,
who's always a screw up, and he has to constantly

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try to explain himself out of the situation, and he
can't do it because he knows deep down that he
screwed it up.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
I think last week, or maybe he was even on
Monday with a quick turnaround, Bobby Slog was at the
podium talking about up until this past weekend, the Texans
were the best screen team, one of the best screen
teams in the NFL, and it's like, what game? What
have you been watching? These wide receiver screens have not worked, Bobby.

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I am so frustrated with this offense because they have
so much talent, and I know they've lost Tank Dell,
They've lost Steph Diggs the offensive line. At the beginning
of the season into the middle of the season, pass
protection was a pass protection was a joke. But now
it's flipped completelydd's take out the Ravens game yesterday. The
pass protection has been so much better compared to where

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it was in the beginning of the season. But now
the run blocking is atrocious. Look at Joe Mixon. Joe
Mixon was unreal for the most part, outside of a
couple of games where he was injured. Dan the last
three games, twenty six yards rushing yesterday, fifty seven yards

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rushing against the Chiefs, twenty three yards rushing against the Dolphins.
That's where it's been run for this rushing attack for
Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon just just didn't out of nowhere
stop knowing how to run the football. The run blocking
has been terrible. So there's just so many different levels
of frustration with this offense and with this team. And

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yesterday was just it was flat out embarrassing, flat out embarrassing.
They did not show up to play and they got
their ass whooped. And give all the credit in the
world to the Baltimore Ravens. It's them and the Chiefs
in the ANFC, and the Bills are not far behind.
And with what Lamar Jackson can do with the football,
and you throw in Derrick Henry just defensively for the Texans,

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they had zero answer, like none whatsoever.

Speaker 8 (08:06):
See And that's the thing too, is like you know,
I love I forget who it was yesterday talking about
oh you know, well, let's get it right next week
against Tennessee. And I think that I and most Texans
fans are tired of hearing this team say, oh, we
can get it right, we can get it right. No,
you cannot, Like you can't at this point.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
You are who you are. You're gonna play out the string.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
You might beat the Steelers in the wildcard round, but
then you're gonna go to Kansas City and you're gonna
get crushed, and it's gonna be the same exact thing
that we saw last year. There is no belief that
this offense can turn things around. And for the reasons
that you threw out to Lilima. I mean, it's not
exactly like you're going to have any reinforcements or any

(08:50):
help coming your way. You've lost players, right we're supposed
to help you this year. And not only have you
lost players that have helped you. The only person on
this offense right now that I trust is Nico Collins.
That's it. He's the only guy. The offensive line. I
did throw it out yesterday, and I truly believe it.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
As a whole.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
They weren't terrible, but you're right. I mean, you know,
I say as a hole. They weren't terrible, they got
a passing grade, but yeah, they can't run, block, they
can't consistently protect their quarterback, and the lack of protection
is starting to seep through and it's starting to bother
your quarterback where even when he does have protection, he

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can't make the throws down the field because he doesn't
trust them. And it's painfully evident on both fronts now
that he doesn't trust his offensive line and he doesn't
trust his OC and yesterday was a great example of that.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Bobby Slowick for me, Dan this offseason, gotta go, gotta go,
They gotta make a change. And you know, one one
thing when Demico Ryans was hired, a big part of
the discussion was, oh, well he's a defensive minded head coach. Okay,
so you got to hire the right offensive coordinator. Last year,

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this offensive line for the Texans was jumbled up every
single game. I mean there were like thirty three or
thirty two different combos of starting linemen for the Texans.
And this offense looked so much better. And that was
with a season where they only got half of it

(10:29):
with Tank Dell because unfortunately he broke his leg on
a run block, and this offense was really good this year.
Like you said, offensive line hasn't been good. I don't
think CJ. Stroud has trust his offensive line since like
game number three, and then in my opinion, the offensive
play calling has taken a massive step backwards from Bobby Sloaks.

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So for me, there's gonna be a lot of questions
a part of the offensive coordinat position when it comes
to this team in the offseason, and it's got like
for me, it's got to change.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
It's got to change. I'm all about.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
You know, it falls on the players to make their
execution or to execute plays. But when they're when Bobby
slok is not putting the offensive in the best places
to succeed, that's a problem for me. That's coaching, that's
not player execution. So a lot of frustration. I know
we got a lot to get into today, Dan, but
damn man, what an ass whooping yesterday?

Speaker 7 (11:28):
Not good? Not good whatsoever.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
And I mean, you know, I gave my reasons on
Bobby Slow I don't have to hammer that home too much.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
But you kind of touched on it just a little bit.

Speaker 8 (11:39):
I mean, you know, look for all of the blame
that we want to pass around and doing this autopsy
this morning. Some of the blame used to go on
Nick Cassario too, I mean, to make all the moves
that you made last year and to necessarily I mean,
if you're watching film, how do you not see that
there were deficiencies up front on that side of the ball,
and you kind of just go into this season saying, Nope.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Hey, we're good.

Speaker 8 (12:01):
We'll draft an offensive tackle in the second round. But
aside from that, we're good.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
We like Scheck Mason, we like whatever the hell we
have at left guard and at center. Yeah, we're good.
We can ride with this, we can win with this.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah that there's another there's some more blame the ass
to go there too. And with all that being said,
the Texans are still in the playoffs, like like anything
can happen in the playoffs, but as of right now,
like this team looks one and done.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
Yeah, and I could also grow a horn out of
my head. I mean that's no, like it's it's full stop, Brian,
Like this team, this team might beat Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh
might also be a jumbled mess on the offensive side
of the football right now, But then after that, like
I said, I wouldn't hold my breath, not not with

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this offense.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Nope.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, and looking looking ahead right now, it looks like
they would match up with the Steelers if the playoffs
started today, because the Steelers dropped out of the top
of their divisi and they dropped to the five seed
with that loss yesterday to the Chiefs.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
All Right, we got a lot to get into here.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
On the Sewn Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews of the A
team sitting in today, Shawn is on vacation.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
We'll hear from Demiko Ryans, We'll hear from CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Daniel Hunter, one of the best defensive ends in the league,
play for those Texans. He also had some things to
say about game plan. Let's hear from Demico when it
comes to the message after getting their ass whooped yesterday.
We'll hear that audio discussed next on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
Let's go on.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
This is the Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Man oh man, what an ass Whooping'?

Speaker 5 (13:40):
One thing you know, Dan is I said it in
the first segment.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
I think I want to reiterate it.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Last year there were thirty plus different starting lineups for
this offensive line, and they were better with that offensive line.
Last year, everybody was coming back healthy. This year you
had some of the some of the highest paid offensive
linemen on this line with Titus Howard and Laramie Tunsel,
and they're worse.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
Who knew that losing George Fant was not going to
be additioned by subtraction, that that was going to be
the lynchpin of this offense. But no, you know, you're
one hundred percent right, And it's not like that. It's
been just a steady decline. It's been off a cliff
basically from the beginning. And I think that obviously it

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was painfully evident to us when they went up to
Minnesota and just got absolutely doors blasted, and you were
kind of like, oh, I mean really, even the second
half against the Bears in Week two, you were like, oh,
this is kind of a struggle to run the football,
Like what's going on here?

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Like what's happening?

Speaker 8 (14:47):
And you probably at the time just thought, No, it's
not that big of a deal, and then you've found
out pretty quickly, Oh no, it's a huge deal, because
I mean, if you can't move the football in the
most basic form, which it's not easy to run the
f football in the NFL, but I mean soon enough,
Like Brian, when it comes to either run or pass blocking,

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offensive linemen want to run block like that is the
pride of the offensive line.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
If you can be able to.

Speaker 8 (15:13):
Move the line of scrimmage when you were running the football,
that's the ultimate, you know, badge of honor for an
offensive lineman.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
And this group can't.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
And I mean, it's going to be an off season
of can Nick Cassio fix it? And that's another doubt
that I have because I mean you pointed it out.
You give serious money to Laramie Tunsel, who's for the
most part been good. You know, Uh, Titus Howard, He's
not really the issue either. But outside of them, who

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can you look at that Nick Caseio's brought in on
this offensive line and say they're good, like I mean,
and it's it's not a beat up Nick Cassio because
some general managers just have blind spots at certain spots.
When I was in Atlanta, Thomas de Mitchrov couldn't find
a pass rusher to life and that was a blind
spot for him.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Offensive line might be a blind spot for Nick Casserio.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
I think, I think the interesting thing when I look
at this offensive line. Is when they finally put Jared
Patterson over at center and moved.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
I believe.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Juice Scrugs over the left guard, things started to get
a little bit better. And then obviously Juice scrugg got
hurt and you moved Titus Howard over to left guard.
Jared Patterson's played pretty well so far at the center position.
Outside of that, when the ball snapped and for whatever reason,
what running the running game has not been good over

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the last it's been inconsistent. So I go back and
I look at Joe Mixon, right, I said, his running
statistics and yardage over the last three games he's had,
he hasn't had one game over one hundred yards. Is
coming up on a thousand yards rushing nine hundred and
ninety three. So he'll get that assuming he plays against Tennessee,

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which is, you know, in what ten days or so.
So I look at his game log DAN twenty six yards,
fifty seven yards, twenty three yards, one hundred and one
yards against Jacksonville in which they won. But then it
goes back down to twenty two, then to one oh nine,
then back down to forty six. So inconsistent as hell.
So run blocking has been an issue, and in the

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beginning of the season it was not. He had one, two, three, four,
four straight, four out of four out of six games
at one point this season over one hundred yards rushing.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
It's just so frustrating, man, so frustrating.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
Well it again, I mean it gets back to adjustments
not being made. And I know that some people might
think that's a lazy argument, but what necessarily do you
look at with this Texans offense and say, oh, man,
they really they adjusted like they they were absolutely to
you know, make that correction.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
From this week to next. Dude, it's the same thing
every single.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Week, every single week, man.

Speaker 7 (18:07):
And it's and it's you.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
I mean, you know, from people who obviously are pretty
good at their job in terms of breaking down film,
they're saying the same thing. Teams are throwing twists and
stunts at this offensive line and they are not able
to pick them up, and it's eating them alive. And
it's just kind of to a certain point, like don't
you think that maybe at a certain point you would say, hey,

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how do we offset that, Like, how how do we
find ways to make sure that we take that away
from opposing defenses? I've got a couple of buddies of
mine who are defensive coaches in the league, and I mean,
I might do the off the record experience experiment today
and just be like, hey, look, you know, I'm I
may or may not use this on the air, but

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it's off the record.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
It's anonymous.

Speaker 8 (18:55):
What what necessarily do you guys think when you're game
planning for this Texans off offense right now? And I'm
gonna be curious to see what they say, cause if
they're giving me the full honest truth, they're probably saying,
I can't believe that they're continuously doing the same things.
I I almost wonder if that would be their response.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
I would be interested to see what they say, because
it's the same thing over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Here's we got Demiko Ryans talking about the message to
his locker room after that loss.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
I told all our.

Speaker 10 (19:26):
Guys just check themselves, all right, starting with coaches and players.
You gotta check yourself and are you getting it done
or not right? This game is gonna come down to
guys making plays. And they had, you know, two exceptional
playmakers on their side, Lamar and Derrick Henriet. They made
plays like and that was that was the game.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
That's Demiko. Ryan's pretty simple, man, But check yourself. Yeah, well,
sanity man.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
It isn't it is. It is the peak definition of insanity.
He says the same stuff every single week.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
And I'm not blaming Demko, but it's it's finally to
a point now where maybe at your end of your
press conference you just have to say, hey, look, I'll
be honest here. Maybe we could have done a better
job coaching, but there are just some dudes who just
don't need to be here anymore because you're saying the
same stuff every single week. It comes down execution. It

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comes down to execution. Well you gotta have the guys
that can do it.

Speaker 11 (20:30):
Well, you know, I think it's it's just it's just
like being in a bad relationship, man, where your partner
tells you, oh, I'll be better, I'll change, and soon
enough you realize no, you won't, and you can't.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
Like this is done, Like, no, you're not. You're not
going to stop. I'm not.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
I'm not hearing it anymore. Let's uh, let's get the
break down. Well, we'll keep talking about this Texans loss. Also,
let's hear from CJ's out. He did not play well
once again. How did he feel about it? We'll discuss
the next on Sportslock seven eighty.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
This is what the quarterback of the Texans had to
say about his play.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
Terrible on my behalf, you know, probably one of my
worst games of my whole career. You know, just came
out flat, didn't have any energy, didn't leave the offense
the way I should have. So no, I always got
to look at myself in the mirror and you know,
be honest with myself. And it's not good enough today.
So you know, uh, it is what it is. Can

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hang my head down, but just got to keep keep going.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Came out flat, no energy, Dan, I'm not trying to
hear it. Patrick Mahomes didn't come out flat, Lamar Jackson,
damn sure didn't come out flat like I like all
these all four of these teams that played yesterday, they
all played.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Three games in eleven days. This is no excuse.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Man.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
You're playing the Ravens on Christmas Day at home, a
playoff team and you.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Come out flat. Come on, man, I'm not hearing it.
I'm not buying it.

Speaker 8 (22:08):
Be better for everything that he was great with last year.
I mean energy, I mean just the belief in himself,
but also the team having the belief in him that's
been zapped out of him this year. And I mean,
there's nobody that needs the offseason more than CJ. Stroud
right now because he needs to be able to step away,

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take a deep breath and get that confidence back. And
I know that really the only way to get it
back is getting back on the field, but I think
that the step towards doing that is.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Be away from it for a little bit.

Speaker 8 (22:42):
And I mean, this is a guy that's swimming in
it right now, because again it gets back to two things.
He doesn't trust his offensive line. He doesn't trust his
offensive coordinator, and it's painfully obvious from what we saw yesterday.
And it's also too it's even when he does get
protect protection, he doesn't believe that he has it.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
And I mean, you look at it.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
He's got a clean pocket and two weeks in a
row now too, Brian, where he scrambled out of the
pocket and run out of bounds for a loss. Where
I'm yelling at the TV. I think most of us
are yelling at the TV. Dude, just throw it away,
just throw it away. And he doesn't even have the
presence of mind to do that right now. So he's
a broken quarterback right now. And part of that is coaching,

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and some of it is on him too, But yeah,
he needs and you know, and that's part of what
we talked about as well.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
I mean one of the larger issues. That's the issue.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
He doesn't believe in himself, not right now, and I
mean I think he can get that back, but it's
not going to get any better this season. I mean,
what you're seeing right now is what you're going to get.
You know, We've talked about the injuries, We've talked about
who he trusts on this offense. Obviously, he us Joe Mixon,

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he trusts Nico Collins. I think he believes he has
to trust Dalton Schultz. I mean, you know, Schultz is
a guy that's gonna help you win a game. You're
not going to win a game because of Dalton Schultz.
And I think a loss this year that's been kind
of underscored is Brevin Jordan. Not having him out there
too has has hurt him. So aside from the first

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two guys I mentioned, there's nobody else on this offense
that he necessarily believes is going to help this team win,
and he he needs to finish this year off as
quickly as possible, in my opinion.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
C J.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Strou was actually asked about the difference between last year's
play and this year's play.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
This is what he had to say.

Speaker 12 (24:42):
I try to person the game the same way I did,
you know, and even you know, I think I'm seen
it better than I ever have, you know, just a
little banged up so on, not really making plays. And
that's a terrible excuse, but I mean, really just not
making plays. That's really the difference between last year and
this year.

Speaker 13 (24:57):
For me.

Speaker 12 (24:57):
He's just not making enough plays. So and you know,
there's times where you know, the players are to be
made and there's guys open, and I got to sign
a way to you know, make the play. Worry makes
my manser do something just that I'm capable of doing,
you know, and you know, winning that's a football game,
you know, that's really you know, up to me to
lead our team and those those times where guys are

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open and you know, ultimately it's just me making plays.
That's really how I look at the difference between this
year last year, which you know can be fixed.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Just not making enough plays, Okay, I mean I appreciate
I appreciate him taking the blame.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
Yeah, because that's what he's supposed to do.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
I mean, he can't say well, I mean, let's be
honest here, if the five guys in front of me
were better, then I would be better. He does that,
he loses that locker room and you can't have that.
But no, I mean exactly what I just talked about
right there. He's out of answers. He doesn't have answers
right now, and you know, some of that is on him,

(26:04):
but a lot of it is on the sum of
the parts around him. And I mean it's gonna be
the same thing all over again, and we'll finally get
to ask the question of you know, Tamiko when he
has that Monday press conference after they get bounced either
in the wild card or divisional round, and the question
is going to be asked, and it needs to be asked.
Is Bobby Slowe coming back? I mean it's just that simple.

(26:27):
Don't him at all, Don't do the gas bag preamble
and everything before.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
It just straight up basket. Is he coming back? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:36):
Well, I don't.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
I don't see him getting any head coaching interviews this
this all season like it did last year. Those are
out the damn window. Like there's no innovative about this
offense whatsoever, not anymore. I don't know what the hell
happened in play calling. I don't know if it's because
they added Joe Mixon and they have a quality running back. Now,
I don't know what it is, but it's it's terrible.
And the fact that c. J. Stroud is saying he's

(26:57):
not making enough plays. Like like I said it earlier,
this team is still bound for the playoffs. They've already
clinched their division and they've got one more game left
against the Tennessee Titans, and then they go into the
playoffs where they're probably gonna have to play the Pittsburgh Steelers,
who have a really good defense. Russell Wilson yesterday didn't
play very well and they lost. But their offense, meaning

(27:20):
the Steelers, is better than this Texans offense. Because the
Texans offense, out of the teams in the playoffs or
that it will be in the playoffs, they're probably gonna
have the worst offense. And that's that's crazy. To me,
even though even though you still you just lost Tank Dell, which,
by the way, awful news coming out about him tearing
basically everything in his knee. He's gonna miss the entire
twenty twenty five season, So that sucks. I know you

(27:42):
don't have Steph Diggs. I know you don't have Tank Dell.
Brevin Jordan went out way early in the season. And
yet you still have Joe Mixon, you still have Nico Collins,
you have guys that you can piece in on the
in the wide receiver room. You just got Deontay Johnson
off of Waivers, trying to get him involved in the
offense when it comes uh to the Titans game. And
yet the offenses is just it's it's just below average.

(28:07):
I don't I don't understand it. I don't understand it
at all. It's just it's so inconsistent.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Well, and yeah, I was gonna say that that that's
that drop right there might be the most timely one
that Triple Lee or any of our producers on this
station I've ever played. Because that's basically been with this
offense has been all season longs as it's been ass
it is, it has been cheeks it has been all
of those things. And it's Hubris too as well, because

(28:37):
where's Bobby slow it come from. He comes from the
Kyle Shannon tree, and and it's it's even deeper than that.
It is you know Shanahan's dad, it is Gary Kubiak,
it's zone blocking, it's we run the football.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Boy.

Speaker 8 (28:52):
You know that that is our calling card. We absolutely
run the football. And I mean it's kind of just
to this point where it's okay, then start doing what
you believe that you can be successful at. Because I
look at a guy that if you had a camera
on Bobby Slowick, I think that you would see frantic
looks at that play calling sheet, just kind of like

(29:13):
almost like in class where you're called upon and you
weren't listening and you don't know what the answer is,
but you're fractically trying to look in the book for
what the answer might be so the teacher doesn't embarrass
you in front of the class.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
That's kind of the vision in my head that I.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
Have, because I think that this guy is absolutely two
or three plays behind when he's trying to get ahead of.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Defenses, and he can't get ahead of defenses.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
Because it's again, you're giving them the same exact game
in and game out, same play calls. I mean, I
joked with with Ac before the first offensive series yesterday,
I said, I can't wait right here for a couple
of times where you get stuffed on first and second
down and then you try to run some wide receiver

(29:58):
screen or something like that. That and you get off
the field on a three and outs. Well, I mean,
they were able to convert the third down. That was nice,
but that was about as good as it got yesterday.
Because you said it, you didn't score any points.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
I get it. You probably could have kicked the field goal.

Speaker 8 (30:15):
And Dimiko talked about why they went forward on fourth
down right there, because he's not wrong. That's not how
you were going to win yesterday. But it's also to
at the same time, you've got to be able to
trust your offense. I mean, what did we hear last
week from Kurt Signetti at Indiana why they punted the football?
They punted the football because he said our offense stunk.
We were not good, so that's why we punted away

(30:37):
the football. I didn't want to do it, but I
just knew that we would be completely banging our head
against a brick wall. If we continued to try to
go with that side of the football.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Yeah, I mean going forward on fourth down, fourth and goal,
like you're gonna have to score points to try to
keep up with the way that Derek Henry was running
football yesterday and Lamar Jackson. So I understand that one,
but damn man, two points is it's yeah, yeah, embarrassing man.
All right, let's continue on, let's get to break. We'll
we'll continue to discuss. Uh, the Texans lost seven one three,

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From the management team here at Sports Talk seven nineteen.
Back to Shawn Stallsbury, Brad, good morning.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
What's up man?

Speaker 14 (31:40):
That that was hard to swallow yesterday.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
I don't really want to go there, but I'm gonna
have to. It just looks like they're mailing it Intuh.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
It's uh, it's and whoever negotiated this sixteen.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
Games in three days is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Somebody needs to really have problems and they go back
to renegotiate their contract. But anyway, when he had time,
he was still missing on his throes.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
And when he.

Speaker 15 (32:09):
Did try to run and scramble and get out, he's
getting caught from behind also too.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
If you're gonna sit there.

Speaker 16 (32:14):
On the defense, come on, Anderson, you've been around two years.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
The running zone read you're.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
Chasing the back and then they I saw the linebacker.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
It was just I couldn't even watch it anymore.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
It was getting so bad your thoughts.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Man, appreciate it, Brad.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
I I watched, I would say, up until like the
middle of the third quarter, and then turn it off.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
It was just so bad, man.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
And then I'm reading through you know, some of these
tweets Dan from some of the beat writers that were
in the locker room and in the postgame press are
And obviously we played plenty of audio here in the
six o'clock hour, and basically what you're seeing is players saying, hey,
we didn't show up, we weren't good enough, so forth

(33:03):
and so on. C. J. Stroud even at one point
said they need to have hard conversations about performance and execution.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
I mean, I think when it comes to CJ.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Stroud, like we can sit here and talk about the
offensive line and some of the problems they've had this year,
but his lack of execution.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Is it's been.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
It's been pretty evident over the last I don't know,
five or six weeks. Would you say he's been He's
been just okay at the quarterback position, and they found
ways to win because of how good their defense is.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Well.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
I mean, and that's part of what the issue was
yesterday is the one time that you really need the
defense to step up, they laid an egg. I mean,
they got absolutely crushed by that Ravens offensive front. You
talked about Derrick Henry, he was pretty much able to
get four to five yards at will. And I mean
that touchdown run that Lamar Jackson had was another, you know,

(34:07):
very apparent issue for this defense yesterday. I mean, you know,
if you can't stop the run, you know what it
was the second half last year against them in the
divisional round. It carried over to this year, like the
Ravens for four quarters did exactly what they did in
the final two quarters last year in Baltimore. In the playoffs.
That's exactly what they did and it sucked. I mean,

(34:31):
you know, you almost probably wonder if Demiko Ryans was
like Frank Costanza when everybody started to throw up and
choke their food there and it got him away from
cooking because of his bad war memory. Like that almost
kind of felt like what Demiko Ryans probably had playing
through his through his headset yesterday was that you know, man,

(34:52):
they're they're.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Doing the exact same thing.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
This is awful, Like this is the absolute worst flashback
that I could possibly have. And I mean mean you
go even further with CJ.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
Stroud.

Speaker 8 (35:03):
He's a beaten man right now. I mean you know,
you hear it when he's at the podium. You know,
I think he tries to take as much of the
blame as he possibly can, and he does wear a
lot of the blame he's gotten.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
He's not good this year.

Speaker 8 (35:17):
At least by the standards that we believe that he
set last season. He is a shell of what he
was last year. You saw a guy who pretty much
had this thing on a string last year and was
able to make the throws that he needed to make.
And also, I mean, you know some of the plays
that he would make. You're just like, how is a
rookie doing this? Well, the league caught up to him

(35:37):
and it happens to everybody. And that's gonna be his
charge this offseason is how do I get back in
front of the league because right now he's playing from behind.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
He's playing from way behind. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
I think what we saw from him as a rookie,
like was obviously impressive as hell, and now you see
some regression. There's so many different things that go into
what we've seen. But I think my whole point in
this segment Dan is like the just the throws that
he misses running out of bounds without throwing the ball away,
the mental clock not being as short as it was

(36:13):
last year where we saw we didn't really see uh
plays where he held onto the ball too long. And
again I know he had so many different offensive linemen
in you know, in the starting lineup last year compared
to this year.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
But it's just the regression, man.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
I would I don't even know if calling it to
regression is fair because of the unbelievable rookie season. This
is the way actually, you know what Dan, the way
that he's playing this year. This is what I thought
we were gonna have last year from him. This is
the way that he's playing now is what I thought
we were going to see as as a rookie, and
we didn't. He was unbelievable last year. We know that,

(36:49):
but look that that was last year. This is this year,
and just the lack of execution is just it's it's
been so evident over at least the last six weeks
for CJ.

Speaker 13 (36:57):
Strout.

Speaker 8 (36:59):
No, that's a great point, and I actually thought about
that too as well at some time this season that
you know, what were some of the fears we had,
you know, leading into his rookie year. I mean, god,
I remember the weekly appearance we have with Chandler Rome
and of course, you know Chandler has never won the
Shy Away from Snark where I guess what was it.

(37:22):
It wasn't fear of missing out. It was fear of
selling out or something that the Texans had as like
a social media campaign, and his joke was, yeah, rookie
quarterback behind this offensive line, good luck with that, and
ended up being pretty awesome, because I mean he he
was awesome. I mean, he captivated a city and you know,
he's just got to be able to try to kind

(37:43):
of tap into that magic again whatever way possible. And
that's what this offseason hopefully will be for him. But
it's not only just him. I mean it's also too.
He needs to be able to trust who's calling in
the plays to him, and not only trust who's calling
in the plays, but also make sure that they have
enough trust in him.

Speaker 7 (38:01):
I mean, you know, that's the other part of it
as well.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
I get back to Thursdays with Bobby Slowick and we get,
you know, minute and a half two minute long answers
like let me ask you this. If you ever have
the answer to something, don't you give it pretty quickly?

Speaker 13 (38:14):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (38:15):
Like don't you if somebody asks you, hey, how do
you fix this, and you can tell them, oh, you
do this, you.

Speaker 7 (38:20):
Know you apply this, you do that. It's it's that simple.
You don't give a two minute long answer.

Speaker 8 (38:26):
You don't you give a two minute long answer when
you don't have the answers because you're trying to You're
trying to convince everyone one way or another. You know,
just through this weaving maze of words that you're throwing
at us, that you have the answer. He doesn't have
the answers. It's it's painfully evident. It's it is beyond
belief that that we are to this point in the

(38:48):
season and you still see the same offensive miscus and
the same offensive game plan being thrown out there every
single week. It's it's the it's what I said earlier, Brian,
it's the textbook definition of insanity because what you're doing
is not working and it will not work.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
It's been the same thing every single week. Man, It's
literally Groundhog's Day all over again, every single day. All right,
let's get into the seven o'clock hour. I got a
crazy stat here for you, Dan in regards to the
offense compared to CJ.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
Stroud in the pocket. What does that mean.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
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(41:20):
ready for.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
The stat Please lay it on me.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
At one point yesterday.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
C J.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Stroud was hit more times than the offense had gained
a first down. Offense had gained first down nine times.

Speaker 13 (41:40):
C J.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Stroud had been hit ten.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Oh my goodness, yeah, exactly terrible. I you know what
going Okay, let's take a step back here, going into
into that game yesterday. You know you're at your smiths,
whether you're at your family's house, your significant others, or

(42:06):
you know, you're hanging out with your buddies, whatever you
doing on Christmas Day. You're knocking down some food, probably
everybody you know, an espresso martini if you will, knocking
down some mimosas opening presents. It's all good. Whether it
was kind of ass here yesterday too. You know you
watch the Chiefs, looks like they're starting to click on
all cylinders, which is I freaking hate because we're getting
closer to the playoffs. You watch that game, the Netflix

(42:27):
wasn't buffering. What was your thought going into this game
for the Texans?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Dan?

Speaker 6 (42:32):
Feeling good on Christmas Day?

Speaker 5 (42:33):
I saw you were enjoying a nice little, uh little
martini to start off your morning, right, you know, you
get ready for the game. I thought the Texans would
lose by ten. I thought it was gonna be like
thirty four to twenty. I thought they would win, lose
by two scores. I didn't think they had enough, plus
the quick turnaround. They don't have Tank, Dell so forth

(42:56):
and so on. I thought, you know what, they keep
it competitive. But then Lamar Jackson would do his thing
late and I think they would extend it to two scores.
My god, I didn't think it was going to be
like this. So what was your mindset going into that game?

Speaker 7 (43:06):
Yeah, it was the same.

Speaker 8 (43:07):
I mean I didn't put a score on it, but
I didn't feel good about this game. I felt like
Baltimore is just a better team. And I mean it was,
you know, watching the earlier game against the Chiefs where
I mean I've got Chiefs fatigue. I think I let
that be pretty well known earlier on Twitter in the day.

(43:29):
But you know it's you would much rather see Pittsburgh
than you would see Baltimore in that wildcard round because.

Speaker 7 (43:37):
I feel like you can beat Pittsburgh. I do not.

Speaker 8 (43:40):
I do not with any fiber of my being, even
with any perceived adjustments you could make that you're going
to beat Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
It's just not.

Speaker 8 (43:49):
No, you have no chance than you and they're in
your head at this point too. So I did not
see a win yesterday in any stretch of the imagination.
If I did, it had to be because Lamar Jackson
played terribly and that the Ravens played terribly.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
Boy they didn't.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
No, no, they did not. And Lamar Jackson is really
looking like the MVP. I know this discussion is gonna
go in towards is it Josh Allen or is it
Lamar Jackson? And what I saw from Lamar Jackson yesterday,
for me, I think I'm kind of looking at him
as the MVP.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
He'll win another MVP back to back.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yeah, Well, he's unbelievable, man, believe.

Speaker 8 (44:30):
That that he's This is the best season he's put
together so far to this point. And look, you know,
for all that we're you know, crapping on Bobby Slowick
this morning, which we've been doing that all throughout the season,
so it's nothing new.

Speaker 7 (44:43):
The praise is being heaped beyond.

Speaker 8 (44:46):
Belief on Todd Munkin and what he's been able to do,
not only with Lamar Jackson, but with that Ravens offense.
I mean, that's a Ravens team that I saw yesterday.
If I'm Buffalo they come to my place, I'm pretty
on I'm not feeling good about that game. Clearly, they
want revenge for what happened last year at their place

(45:06):
against Kansas City, so they would want to go to
Kansas City and be able to deliver a little bit
of revenge in that way. But yeah, I mean, the
thing that we can be thankful for, and maybe one
last gift that we got that was right behind the
Christmas tree that we just missed when we opened our
presence yesterday, was that you would likely not have to

(45:29):
see Baltimore unless you got the AFC Championship game. And
I don't think anybody believes that this team is anywhere close.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
To no, no.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Not at all, because if they go, if they play,
if they play, and I know they're not going to.
But if they were to have to play the Chiefs
in the first round or the Ravens, they're done.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
Excuse me.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
And then also if they were to try to match
up against Buffalo, then they're done there too.

Speaker 6 (45:58):
I think they have somewhat of a chance.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
If it's the who would it be either the Steelers?
I think the Chargers. Maybe let me double check that
real quick. I think the Chargers would be there as well.
Looking ahead, Yeah, it's the Chargers. In the five to
sixty seven. It's the Steelers, the Chargers, and the Broncos.
So those are the bottom three making the playoffs. So

(46:22):
right now, they would match up with the Steelers, and
I think they would have a They would have a
better chance against the Chargers, the Broncos, or the Steelers,
any any of the top three seeds, they're done. I
don't give them any chance of beating any three. And
any of those three.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
Well, I mean, And the funny thing is is they've
been just, you know, okay on the road. Three of
their last four games at NRG Stadium have been losses.
So it's not exactly like you say to yourself, oh
we've got home field. This is gonna be great. It's
not about the atmosphere. The fans are fine, and I

(46:57):
mean you even heard a little bit of.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
The displeasure, yes toy.

Speaker 8 (46:59):
I'm seeing videos of a guy sticking around for late
third quarter yesterday just to yell at the Texan sidelines.
I mean, that's the frustration that you're getting right now,
is because I mean, you know, we all wanted to
believe that this was going to be a special season,
and at least in the beginning it looked like it
could have been. But I think the first couple of

(47:19):
games were pretty much a precursor if you were watching
them closely to say, hmm, there's some warts with this
team that's not going to be fun to go through.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
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Speaker 18 (47:32):
Good morning, Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 13 (47:35):
Man.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
You know, it was like a horror movie. I paid
one thousand dollars to go see that game with two
dicats and that's the worst football game I've ever been to.
You know, they only scored two points, and that's the
rating I give them for that game as a two.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
It was horrible.

Speaker 9 (47:55):
We had a first down, we would with a first
down and did It was second and eight, third and eight,
and he passed on both of those plays when we
should have ran the ball. And I mean, this was
a lopsided game. And for CJ. Stroud, he don't have
any mental toughness.

Speaker 13 (48:15):
You know.

Speaker 9 (48:17):
I don't know if it's some kind of attraction that
has caused distraction, but anything can be a distraction, not
just women, but money, you know, just just not being focused.
So he don't have any mental toughness. I noticed that
when tang Dale went down, no other quarterback in the league,

(48:38):
of maybe no other player in the league would have
showed those type emotions. Now, emotions is good, and having
care and concern about an injured person, I'm all for that,
but when it comes to taking care of business and
playing the game, he needs the mental toughness.

Speaker 18 (48:54):
He does not have it.

Speaker 9 (48:56):
And I sat there and I watched that game and
he missed a lot of targets and it wasn't the
receiver spault. It was all on him and he was
throwing those balls maybe a half a yard outside the catch.
We need to get it together. Now they talk about
the offensive coordinator, it's not just him, it's the whole team.

(49:19):
It's the team as a whole, and I'm very disappointed.
I've never seen so many fans leave out of a
game in the third quarter. I mean that place was
being empty and I even left.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
Do you watch Beyonce at halftime?

Speaker 9 (49:39):
Well, yeah, she performed better than the Texans. And I
didn't go to the game to see a concert. I
went to the football game because I'm a Texans fan
and I enjoyed watching sports. But she outperformed the Texans.
And even though you know and I in that concert,
it didn't move me at all either, you know. So,

(50:02):
so my whole Christmas was disappointing, uh for those few hours,
you know.

Speaker 18 (50:08):
But uh, C J.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
Stroud.

Speaker 9 (50:11):
He has a mental distraction and for him showing those
emotions when Tank went down, that was a red flag
to me. That showed me a lot about the toughness
of him as a football player. I like his character
as a person, but man, he got to step it up.
And you know when they when he went out and
they put meals in, I said they should have left

(50:33):
meals in the game, seriously, because he did complete one
past that he was in the game for that one down.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
Mmmmm mmmm. Appreciate the call.

Speaker 9 (50:48):
Random, Yes, sir, thank you a lot.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Uh yeah, yeah, it's just not good, man.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
They're gonna be one and done. This is a one
and done team.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
I don't I don't care if they plus I yeah,
I know, we gotta get to the stake out, but
I you know, Dan, I'm just it's it's if you
would have told me this is how the Texans would
be this season, and maybe maybe they were. The expectations
were a little unrealistic with when they added Stefan Diggs,
Daniel' Hunter, a couple of these other guys as he's
Aushai here coming to the text and so forth and

(51:27):
so on in the off season. But man, they got
playmakers up and down. I know they're banged up, but dude,
this is just it's it's ugly as hell. It is
ugly as hell.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
Well, the optics aren't great, and like I said, we
can carry this on the other side. But I do
have some thoughts about you know what he said with
you know, when when Tank got hurt last week and
the emotions there that I mean, we just don't have
enough time in this segment to get to them, so
we can carry those over. But I mean, I can't
say I disagree with Randall on one point that he made.

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Speaker 6 (52:57):
All right, Dan.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
We had a caller, uh, kind of bring a up CJ.
Stroud showing too much emotion when Tank Dell went down.
Obviously we saw him just a couple of days ago,
very emotional on the sideline or very emotional in the
back of the end zone where Tank Dell was hurt.
Then emotional on the sideline, and you couldn't get to

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your point. So I'm gonna give you the floor. What
you think you'd showed too much emotion or what's your
thoughts on that?

Speaker 8 (53:23):
So I didn't have a problem with the emotion. I
think that it was a genuine response. He cares about
his guy. That's his way of showing that he cares
about his guy. But it's also though too. What was
very very apparent after that happened was he was out
of the game. Like I mean, it's one of those
things that it happened. It was so jarring to him

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that it took him out of the football game and
it affected the rest of the team. And I think,
if nothing else, what needs to be a lesson for
him from that is it's okay to show emotion.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
You're human.

Speaker 8 (53:57):
I mean I think that more often than not. You know,
some people want to say that it's bad for these
guys to show human emotions. I disagree. I think that
it's part of what makes them who they are. They care,
but it's also to At the same time, the lesson
that you take is, hey, soon enough, be able to
reel this thing back in, Like you've got to be

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the guy as the quarterback going around to everybody saying, hey,
it hurts, it's terrible, it's it's unreal. But let's go
win this for number three, Like, let's let's let's go,
let's go find a way to be able to rally
this thing together, let's be able to win this football game.
And I just felt like that was a missed opportunity
at that point. So, I mean, I I do have

(54:40):
to agree with Randall on that, And I think that
probably again one of the reflective things that he's going
to look at in terms of looking back at the
season and what didn't go right, what didn't go wrong.
I think if CJ's being honest with himself, that's one
of them right there. Of Hey, it's okay to show emotion,
we've all got them, but it's also too at the
same time, it's incumbent upon you as one of the

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team leaders to be the guy that rallies everybody back in.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Yeah, and it was clear that it took him out
of the game last week. I did see, you know,
after the lost yesterday. Of course, locally Twitter blows up
right and everyone's talking about how bad the offensive line is,
how bad c J. Stroud has played here as of late.

(55:29):
Defense got torched yesterday, so forth, and one I saw
I came across a.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Tweet Dan in regards to c J.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
Stroud and it's got over two million views, thirty two
thousand likes, a lot of a lot of thread on
this tweet and it says no, but for real, c J.
Stroud needs to cut off Michael Rubin, Micah Parsons, declined
the White Party invite and lay off the podcast.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
His entire offseason.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
His offseason was one of the most ridiculous I've seen,
and he was coming off of just his first year.
And then I just go through some of the comments
and one of these guys was like, I literally saw
c J. Stroud sumo wrestling in Japan and at parties
more than I saw him slinging the rock. It was like,
he has a couple of bad games and people bring
up his off season like that has anything to do

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with this season.

Speaker 7 (56:17):
No, and that's just it.

Speaker 8 (56:18):
I mean, we look for convenient excuses because they're exactly that.
They're convenient, and it's a convenient excuse. I mean, you know,
I saw It's funny you say that just a few
minutes ago on my Twitter timeline, people posting the video
of when he was walking out a minute Made park
with Amber Rose. Yeah, I saw that one too, that
this was the beginning of the downfall of CJ. It's

(56:39):
not the beginning of the downfall for CJ. He just
has been found out and now he's got to find
a way to be less found out next season and
the podcast.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
Everything of the sort.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
I'm gonna go ahead, you know, And I know that
gut feelings are from ten to two and it's on
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. But my gut feeling,
you're not gonna see anything at this offseason from CJ.
As a matter of fact, I would probably venture to
guess you're going to pretty much see a radio silent
offseason from CJ.

Speaker 7 (57:08):
Stroud.

Speaker 8 (57:09):
Maybe you'll see a video of them working out somewhere,
but aside from that, you're not gonna see much out
of home.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
No, probably not. And again I've said it twice, now
I'll say it again. This team is still going to
the playoffs. It doesn't matter if they lose the Tennessee
Titans or not. Obviously you want to go into Tennessee
and kick their asses because of the whole oilers and
their uh and their owner and everything that you know
has to do with the off the field stuff. But
you go in you try to fix some things. I

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wouldn't even I wouldn't even be surprised if some of
those starters only play a quarter or two. You know,
in that game, you don't want to get anybody hurt,
but you also got to play. You gotta play your
starters after getting your ass kicked by the Ravens. So
either way, they're still going to the playoffs. You know,
like where we sit here and we're we're criticizing. You know,

(57:57):
they went one and two over these last eleven days.
We knew that it was gonna be difficult coming into
this season when we saw the schedule come out on paper.
Miami's having somewhat of a down year. Again, they have
not been consistent. So they get past Miami just because
of how good the Texans defense, and then they get
they get beat by the Chiefs, and they turn around

(58:18):
and just get demolished by the Ravens. And yet they
still have won their division because AFC South is atrocious,
and they're still going to the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (58:27):
And that can't be lost.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
I mean, you know, that's the part of all of
this as well, is that you played a much harder
schedule this year and if you do go to Tennessee
and win, which there's some Zerio reason why you shouldn't.
You're ten and seven against a really good schedule. However,
look at who you lost to this year. You lost
to the teams that you need to beat in the

(58:50):
playoffs pretty much other than the Buffalo Bills, that was
the only team that you beat this season. And you
could say, hey, you know, we could see these guys again,
and I think we can probably agree if you did
see them again, it wouldn't go near as good as
it went that day at NRG Stadium, Dan.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
The Texans are one in five this season against winning teams,
teams with a winning record, they are one in five.

Speaker 8 (59:17):
And that's the part that people are gonna latch to
and and I get it, because I mean, you know,
if they went on Sunday, they're gonna be ten and seven,
the same exact record they had last season. But for
that very reason, it's going to be perceived as you
took a step back this year. And if you look
at the football, it's hard to argue with people who
feel that way.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
One in five against winning teams.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
That is not good seven one three two, one two
five seven ninety is the number to join. Let's hear
from some of the offensive linemen. Uh is there some
concern there with the lack of execution. Let's talk about
it next. In Sportstok seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
And were the Shawn Salsbury Show continue.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Left guard for the Texans on the thirty one to
two loss. This is what Titus Howard had to say
after the loss.

Speaker 19 (01:00:09):
Oh No, I'm not concern. This team resilient. You know
we I know what we can do. We just got
to go ahead and do it. So I'm not worried
about you know, this team not being played with teams
like that. Says We've got the guys that can do it,
so she gotta go ahead and do it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
No, that's Titus Howard says he has no concern. I
called BS. I would say that there is. There should
be some concern. If there's not, I don't have any concern.
What do you mean, do I have any concern? Titus?

Speaker 13 (01:00:38):
Like?

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
Okay, Like, I appreciate you sticking up for your guys.
I appreciate you believing because it's the old saying you're
never out of the fight. I get all of that,
but soon enough you have to realize You're at the
poker table and you have a losing hand.

Speaker 7 (01:00:55):
What do you do with a losing hand? You fold it?

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
So I mean, like he can say, oh, we've got
guys in here that can do it, we just have
to do it well. Then soon enough, you're just not
capable of doing it, like soon enough, and soon enough
was probably back in like week eight or seven, because
this team is just not capable of doing it. So
I appreciate the effort, but come on, man, like it's

(01:01:21):
I mean, I'm doing the convenient excuse thing right now, Brian, Yeah,
I'm doing it fully well and I understand that, but
like to continuously every single week. Oh, I believe in
this guys, these guys in this locker room, we've got
a special group.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
No you don't, No, you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
I would rather So it's funny that Titus Howard says that.
And then also in the postgame, Daniel Hunter, the defensive
ed said quote the biggest thing we can do is
just game plan better end quote, also said there wasn't
enough energy. So some of these guys are being transparent
saying we didn't have enough energy, we didn't game plan correctly.

(01:02:02):
And then you have c j Stroud even saying that
you know he came out flat and then you have
tied us out. Oh yeah, I'm not concerned now, No, no,
I'm not concerned at all.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
What you should be Your team's not very good and
I saw that.

Speaker 8 (01:02:18):
But it's also to at the same time, the game
plan is all fine and good, and yeah, you go
as far as your leadership will take you, which your
leadership in this case is your coaches, and in his
case it's the defensive coaches, i e.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
The head coach.

Speaker 8 (01:02:32):
But Daniel Hunter, you've played enough NFL football, don't you
know what Lamar Jackson is capable of doing? Like don't
you know what Derrick Henry is capable of doing? And
I mean you know the Zay Jones and and and
the rest of that that offense, like what they're uh,
they're able to do on the field. Like I get

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all of that, but it's also too I feel a
little bit of deflection in there. I mean, you know,
the defense has been fantastic all season long, but it
goes back to the tweet I had during the Kansas
City Chiefs game. It just there's always something off, Like
remember during the comparison to the astros I made earlier, Yeah,
where somebody had the on off switches where if hitting

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was on and starting pitching was on, then the bullpen
was off.

Speaker 7 (01:03:19):
Like that's the Texans team this year.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
In a nutshell is when you feel like you need
an absolute defensive stop, like you really need it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
You don't get it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:28):
When you really need Kaymi Fairbairn to make a field
goal or to make an extra point and it will
completely change the face of the game, he misses it.
You really need a good sustaining drive out of the offense,
you don't get it. Like that's That's really just the
heart of all of it is the nails need to
be hammered in all the way, and this team is

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good at hammering them in halfway.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
Seven seven ninety is a number to join us. Get
back out to the phone lines, Dwayne, good morning.

Speaker 20 (01:03:58):
Good morning, gentlemen. I wanted to ask both you and
Dan a question understanding the process of the NFL where
each and every player has to go out there each
and every day and make himself better. Now, question is
the offensive line. Is that quarterback and the running back

(01:04:20):
all had enough time to learn how it is going
to be to play in the NFL. That is my question.
Thank you gentlemen, Thank you, Dwayne.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Yeah, my answer is pretty civil. Yes, they've had plenty
of time. They have absolutely had plenty of time, plenty
of time to learn to play in the NFL. Joe
Mixon has been doing this for a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:04:43):
CJ.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Stroud is in year two, but even he's had a
full season under his belt. And you can go through
the guys that are on that offensive line. Shack Mason's
a veteran Laramie Tounseel's a veteran, Titus Howard has played enough.
You got a couple of rookies that have been moving
in and out of spots. But yes, as a whole,
everybody on this team has had enough time or at
least on the offense, has had enough time to learn

(01:05:04):
how to play in the NFL.

Speaker 8 (01:05:07):
Well, I mean, and it's also to CJ. Stroud what
thirty three starts now in the NFL. He's a veteran
at this point, is where I'm going with this. I mean,
he's seen and done it all, even less than two
years into his career.

Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
No, I mean it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:23):
Experience is not an excuse. This team has experienced players.
They have experienced players too, who just aren't getting the
job done.

Speaker 7 (01:05:31):
And I mean they.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
Can continue after losses, and you know, honestly, Brian, it's
to a point where you could just put a tape
recorder for some of these postgame answers because it's the
same thing. It was the same thing after the Detroit loss,
it was the same thing after the Tennessee loss.

Speaker 7 (01:05:47):
It's the same thing again yesterday. Of you know, we
believe in our guys, so we just need to execute better.
We need to do this well, I mean again, then
do it. Like it's kind of to the point where
you almost just want to, like, you know, grab somebody
and look them right in the eye, like almost kind
of shaking them.

Speaker 8 (01:06:07):
To be like stop, stop, stop, like seriously, just do it.
Like if it's really that simple, then just do the job.
And clearly they can't do it, because we're in week
seventeen now and we're still getting the same answers.

Speaker 6 (01:06:23):
Yeah, they got manhandled yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Physicality wise, play calling wise, offensive, defensive, special teams everything.
Derek Henry twenty seven carries one hundred and forty seven
yards average over five yards to carry. Lamar Jackson on
the ground four carries eighty seven yards, one touchdown. Throwing
for Lamar Jackson ten to fifteen, one hundred and sixty
eight yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions. He was only sacked once.

(01:06:48):
That's a rating of one hundred and forty three.

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
He is gonna be the MVP, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
And the Texas, like you want to talk about big
boy football, Dan, when you talk about the class that
the Chiefs are in, the class that the Ravens are in,
you could even throw on the Buffalo Bills in the AFC.
Look over in the NFC when you look at what
the Lions are doing even though they're very very banged up.
You look at the Green Bay Packers are playing really

(01:07:14):
good football, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
You look at Commanders.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Yeah, Jayden Daniels and what he's doing in his rookie season,
the Philadelphia Eagles, you know some of these teams, Well, can't.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
Even forget the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
They're the five seed and they're thirteen and freaking two, right, Like,
there's a clear difference in what those teams are doing
that I just named and what the Texans are doing.
The Texans are nine and seven and the number four
seed because they've won their terrible division.

Speaker 8 (01:07:44):
Well, I mean, and for a couple of the teams
you just threw out there, there's precedent that it can
get better. I mean, you can be able to turn
things around. I mean, people thought that Nick Sirianni should
have been fired after last season with the collapse that
Philadelphia had and the absolute egg that they laid against
Tampa Bay and the playoffs. And look at what they

(01:08:05):
are this year, the complete turnaround they've had.

Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
I mean, up until last.

Speaker 8 (01:08:08):
Sunday, they'd won ten straight games, you know, And I
think that there's the other side of it as well,
of look at Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah,
I mean, the offensive line issues are still there, but
they get to the super Bowl and you think, Okay,
this is the start of something special in Cincinnati. We
know who he is, we know whomur Chase is. But

(01:08:29):
they've been spinning their wheels ever since. So there's both
sides of the spectrum right there. But if you're the Texans,
you're definitely hoping that you gravitate more towards the first
example I gave than this becoming kind of the norm
and it spirals out of control from here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Yeah, I think I think another frustrating part about you
know what some of the players said, and I get
why they're saying it, Oh, we're not going to dwell
on this loss, and we can finish strong before the playoffs. Dude,
you're going to take on a Tennessee Titans team that
has just got awful. Well, the way that your offense
is playing, you're not very good either. Yeah, we can

(01:09:04):
finish strong. Okay, finished strong in the regular season. Then
you got to go and turn around and play probably
the Steelers are Chargers or even the Broncos, depending on
how all that shakes out.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
So finish strong.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
Yeah, I just but to sit here and say it
goes all the way back to how we started this
segment with the audio from Titus Howard saying that you're
not concerned is BS and we all know it. There's
a lot there should be a lot of concern because
they're just not very good.

Speaker 8 (01:09:29):
Well, I mean, and here's kind of my statement into
a question, is what is finishing strong? Exactly like, you're
exactly right, it's one game left in the regular season,
and what are you going to necessarily be able to
put into.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
That one game that you say hmm.

Speaker 8 (01:09:44):
That can translate that we can use this in the
playoffs and and go from there. I mean, there's just
nothing that I look at, especially on the offensive side,
that can make me believe that you putting together a
good performance against the Titans is going to miraculously just
thrive thing around.

Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
Right, you are who you are, You are who you are.

Speaker 8 (01:10:04):
At this point, Like there's there's not going to be
wholesale changes to this offense where CJ is all of
a sudden going to find an offensive weapon in Xavier
Hutchison or somebody like that. I mean, you know that
basically the offense is, hey, is Nico Collins opened down
the field? Okay, that's my targets as opposed to everybody else.
I mean, I guess John Metchi had a nice day yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
That was nice to see.

Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
But you're not gonna win in the playoffs because John
Metchi has five catches for forty eight yards.

Speaker 7 (01:10:34):
That's not happening.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Yeah, this one game isn't gonna magically make you, oh
my gosh, the top contender going to the playoffs. So
what what are you really gonna get out of saying oh,
we can finish strong, Yeah, you can go in and
you can make adjustments from getting your ass kicked on
Christmas Day. But there's a lot more because we are
in what week seventeen, Yes, yeah, week seventeen, because next week, yeah,

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January first starts week eighteen.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Dude, you're in week seventeen.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Like, yeah, we can finish strong, Okay, all right, you
can fair fair statement, like you can go and you
can win, but at this point you are who you are.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
These are all trends that we're seeing, and the trend
that we're seeing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:13):
For the Texans is the offense is extremely inconsistent. The
play calling sucks. The lack of execution sucks. Your offensive line,
uh does Okay, your quarterback hasn't been making good plays
or making the plays. Joe Mixon has been a non
factor in the last three games when he was so

(01:11:34):
good for the first five or six. Even if you
take out the games that he was hurt, there's a
lot of uh, just not good for the Texans right now.
We'll continue this discussion on the other side of its
seven one three two one two five seven ninety. We'll
also get back out to the pune lines right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
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Speaker 6 (01:11:58):
Jay, what's up this morning?

Speaker 21 (01:12:00):
Hey, good morning, Gud's a happy holidays to everyone and
to my brother Sean and his absence. Hey man, listen,
let me just get the text straight to the point.
You heard the adage water always seeks his own level.
That's exactly what we have with the twenty twenty four
version of the Texans. Last year, for the most part,
I believe was somewhat of the anomaly.

Speaker 18 (01:12:21):
They had a great season.

Speaker 21 (01:12:22):
They had a rookie quarterback, and now I think some
of the real realities of us having that heightened expectation
and honestly reviews and the weaknesses so we see now
basically a team I think at his core, does not
know how to respond to adversity. If you see any
of the championship teams Green Bay, Philadelphi, might Detroit Lyons

(01:12:44):
hallylu have to I don't know how long he suffered.
They have responded to all the different things that create
adversity in the NFL, Entries being one of them. My
prayers go out to Tank Dell his family. I hope
he could survive this and get back on the field.
You see is what you did in my last statement.
I'm gonna make I'm gonna use a take on Danny

(01:13:04):
Green the Texans exactly who we thought they weren't. Yeah,
I have a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
Appreciate it, Jay, and let's get out to Abe. What's
happening to Abe?

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Lauren?

Speaker 22 (01:13:17):
Gentlemen, Merry Christmas to you guys. You know I mentioned
earlier some of the teams who are the superior teams
in the AFC and overall in the NFL, and every one.

Speaker 14 (01:13:30):
Of those teams, from the Bills to the Chiefs to
the Ravens to the Steelers, they all have solid offensive lines.
They're given the quarterback time to throw the ball to
the field.

Speaker 22 (01:13:44):
They're given their running backs holds.

Speaker 14 (01:13:46):
To run through.

Speaker 22 (01:13:47):
I mean, I'm wondering how many yards Mixings has after
the contact.

Speaker 23 (01:13:53):
But everything starts with.

Speaker 22 (01:13:54):
The offensive line, and that performance yesterday was absolutely setting.
I mean, thirty one to two is really ridiculous. It
got so bad and I just turned it off. But anyway,
that's what I wanted to say. I think everything starts
with the offensive line.

Speaker 14 (01:14:11):
CJ is getting.

Speaker 22 (01:14:13):
Very timid back there because of how many times he's
getting hit. He has no time to throw the ball,
all the misdirection plays. We don't establish a running game,
then our offenses is shot. And that's what's happening. I'll
hang up and listen. Thanks you, guys, Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
Yards after a contact for Joe Mixon, let's see in
his career way, let's see and his career yards after
contact the double check. That stat is the stats that
I got in front of me. He's averaging over four
yards of carry. Excuse me so far, but pretty much

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non existing in the run game last three week. And
of course we've talked to and Dan, we've talked about
this offensive line man. But I also think on Jay's point,
these Texans this year do not respond to adversity.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
We've seen that. I think it's a very good point
by Jay.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
The other teams that are in a different class, Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo,
and he nailed it with the Detroit Lions. They've they've
been thrown all kinds of adversity. They're they're they're some
of their best players, Aiden Hutchinson out, David Montgomery out.
I mean, they they're banged up as hell, and they
continue to win and continue to respond to their adversity.

Speaker 6 (01:15:36):
Texans don't. Flat out they do not well.

Speaker 8 (01:15:40):
I mean, the problem is they create some of the
adversity for themselves with penalties, with missed assignments, whatever it
might be.

Speaker 7 (01:15:49):
I mean, a lot of it is self induced.

Speaker 8 (01:15:51):
So you know, I don't necessarily know if it's a
adversity issue with them. I think that it's you. I mean, again,
you create it for yourself. And I mean we heard
Tamiko Ryan's beginning of the season. We have to stop
beating ourselves. We have to stop with the pre snap penalties,
all these other things. And look, I'll give credit where
it's due with the offensive line, for the most part,

(01:16:13):
they have kind of cleaned those up. It's just the
problem is across the board they're not very good. So
that's the that's what overrides everything else. But I mean,
you know, just with the you know, the last part
right there of you know, what we just heard from
from Abe is that you know, he's not wrong about

(01:16:35):
you know, the offensive line being an issue and that
it has seeped through and affected CJ. I mean, it's
one of the sayings I have is the room of truth.
And I think if you put CJ in the room
of truth and you ask them about the offensive line,
he'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I don't
feel comfortable back there, like I as a matter of fact,
I don't feel comfortable at all. And you're seeing that

(01:16:57):
with I mean, some of the mistakes that he's making
on his I talked about running out of bounds behind
the sticks for the you know, at least once in
the last couple of weeks, where normally probably if he
trusted his game, he trusted his feet and he trusted
his abilities a.

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
Little bit more, he throws that football away.

Speaker 8 (01:17:15):
I mean, there's got to be something that kind of
is like almost like a circuit breaker in his mind
on a runout like that where you look down the
field and nobody's open.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
Dude, I don't care if you throw that ball into
the club level.

Speaker 8 (01:17:28):
Throw it away, like, get rid of the football, burn
the football.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
It's fine, It's okay. I'd much rather have.

Speaker 8 (01:17:34):
Second and ten than second and thirteen. I mean, And
some people might say that's not much of a difference. No,
clearly it is, because I mean, you know, you get
back to the offensive play calling, and one of the
things that I had talked about, and I gave Bobby
Slowick some praise for how he used it in the
Miami game. But if you're having trouble running the football,
and what did we hear all off season about Joe Mixon, Oh,

(01:17:57):
he's so good catching the ball out of the backfield.

Speaker 7 (01:17:59):
Why isn't that use more?

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
I asked that, are you finding weights? I have asked
that so much.

Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
I mean, you throw the ball to him three times yesterday,
three whole times in that game. Of the amount of
plays that you ran in the game, which let's see
thirty one targets, and then running the football seventeen times.
So I mean, there's just there's there's no balance to
this offense right now. But it's also too again, I mean,
you know, what, what do you do well? That's what

(01:18:28):
the offensive coordinators question needs to be to the quarterback,
and not only what do you do well?

Speaker 7 (01:18:33):
Hey, how do we get this guy involved more?

Speaker 8 (01:18:35):
Because the last few games you touched on it hasn't
even sniffed one hundred yards, not even once.

Speaker 7 (01:18:42):
I mean, if.

Speaker 8 (01:18:44):
That's going to be what the problem is, and you've
clearly shown you don't mind using screen passes, then get
him involved like it's it's just it's the same milk toast,
just you know, run of the mill, almost copy cutter,
you know, I mean, you know cookie cutter offense that
you're running every single week, and I mean it's there.

(01:19:07):
There is no imagination there, there there is no creativity
in this offense. It's basically Bobby Slow like every single
week saying well, I guess this is who we are.
I mean, it's almost like when we were in school
and you knew that the paper that you just typed
out sucked, but you turned it in because it had
to be turned in. That's what it feels like. I'm
watching with this offense every single week that the night

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before he tried to cram a five page paper, and
he knows full well no matter how good the cover
sheet is, when he turns it into the teacher of
the professor, he knows that at best he's getting maybe
a passing grade.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Maybe that's a pretty good analogy. Let's let's get into
the eight o'clock our. Lamar Jackson was insane yesterday against
these Texans who you got for MVP him or Josh
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Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
Your Rockets are back in action tonight against the Pelicans,
seven pm tip off, six o'clock lunch pad right here
on seven ninety your home four Rockets Basketball. Texans absolutely
embarrassed yesterday on Christmas by the Ravens. The Chiefs beat
the Steelers. Dan, did you watch? Uh did you watch
the Chiefs and Steelers game?

Speaker 7 (01:20:57):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, a minute, one, all the way till
the end.

Speaker 15 (01:21:00):
Why see why.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
Any I'm so tired of the Chiefs already.

Speaker 8 (01:21:08):
I mean, I'm not only tired of the Chiefs, I'm
just I'm tired of basically every single way that they
can get lucky in a game. I mean, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Well was it?

Speaker 8 (01:21:18):
You get the fumble on the punt return and it
just miraculously goes right to a Chiefs player. It's just like,
good God man, like, can you guys just you know,
finally just meet your match when it comes to this.
But I mean, look, credit to them. They find a way,
and they've been doing it for the better part of
the last about five years with three tired of it
during that time, tired of it. But you know, yeah,

(01:21:41):
I got to see both Pat Patrick Whyny.

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
Hey, you know, Santa Claus came to town.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
You know, we got to win over the Steelers, you know,
twenty nine to ten Travis past Tony Gazazo was a
good win.

Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
That's what I heard. What I heard Patrick Mallums say.

Speaker 8 (01:21:57):
And then he got to enjoy his his red velvet
k football. And then once they got to the locker room,
you got Andy Reid dressed as Santa Claus, which was fana.

Speaker 6 (01:22:07):
Did you see that?

Speaker 7 (01:22:07):
I did like that part.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
Did you see the guy jump out of the little
cart as an elf?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
I did not, Triple you got you got your TV
up and running? Did you see it?

Speaker 13 (01:22:17):
Just now.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Triple Ei there?

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
No, all right, it was on I've got Sports Center on,
I've got get up on and Andy Reid was dressed
up as Santa Claus in the locker room after the game,
and they wheeled in like this like you know what,
you know what bands put their instruments in, like the
big tall ones that the big tall rolling cases. They
had one of those wheeled in and a little guy

(01:22:42):
jump not a little guy, but like I guess somebody
from the coaching staff that just shorter. He jumped out
in an Elf costume the tag along with Andy Reid.
It was so funny, man, that was pretty good. I'll
give that to the Chiefs on that one.

Speaker 8 (01:22:55):
Yeah, let's see, I'm watching it right now seeing Andy Reid.
I don't the the Elf guys.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
Look at the is one of the Hunt family members
talking yet?

Speaker 17 (01:23:09):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:23:09):
Okay, so I guess this is on the Chiefs because
I'm watching it on the NFL's Twitter account.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
Okay, No, I just saw the highlight on on get Up.
It's pretty funny, man. But yeah, the Chiefs found you know,
the Chiefs. I wouldn't they find a way to win.
They won ten Russell Wilson with a really bad interception
thrown in a triple coverage in the red zone, and
then the Chiefs. It's since week fifteen, they're seventh in

(01:23:36):
yards per game, third in rushing touchdowns. I mean, they're
they're just getting better and better as the season goes on.
When they were finding miraculous ways to win early in
the season, and here we are and they look like
they're starting to kind of hit their stride offensively. And oh,
by the way, Hollywood Brown is now active in playing,
so that just adds another weapon. DeAndre Hopkins, Chris Jones

(01:23:59):
a little banged up, he said, out and they lock
up the number one seed, so they'll have home field
advantage throughout once again. Of course they're fifteen and one,
so tired of this damn team.

Speaker 8 (01:24:12):
Well, I mean, look, you know it's kind of also too.
It's being tired of them from an envious standpoint, because
I'd like for people to get tired of the Texans,
much like people got I.

Speaker 6 (01:24:23):
Am tired of the Texans, just not in a positive light.

Speaker 7 (01:24:26):
Right exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:24:27):
I mean, you know, you like, for people, Ah, these
guys again they win every single year.

Speaker 7 (01:24:32):
Yeah, it'd be nice to have that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:33):
But good for Kansas City, good good for their fans,
and you know, I mean that's that's the part of
all of this that can't be lost, is they're finding
ways to win games even when I mean it seems
like they should have lost said game. I mean, the
Raiders game on Black Friday. Probably if the Raiders are

(01:24:53):
at least a capable team, they lose that one. And
there's others along the way as well. But you know,
I mean, it's not even been the greatest season for
Patrick Mahomes. I know you wanted to talk about the
MVP discussion. I mean that to me is what makes
what Josh Allen is doing up in Buffalo even more impressive.
When you came into this season not really even wondering

(01:25:15):
who some of his top targets were going to be,
and he's kind of been able to shepherd some guys
along to become good NFL receivers.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
Yeah, you know, real quick, I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
Go back out to the phone line seven one, seven ninety.
Have you noticed when it comes to the Texans over
the last probably the three games, That's what I've noticed it.
Do you realize that they take Joe mix it on
on third downs for the most part, Darry oh Goombawale
is mainly in Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:25:42):
I mean, and I mean that's see, that's that's again
of predictability and uh of not necessarily being too creative.

Speaker 7 (01:25:50):
I mean it's it's not.

Speaker 8 (01:25:52):
Even about the whole audible and does the quarterback have
a choice at the line of scrimmage. I was thinking
about this during one of the breaks today, Brian, where's
the motion? Like, like, where where is any sort of Hey,
let's get them guessing on this play that we saw
last season.

Speaker 7 (01:26:08):
We saw that. I mean I mentioned Brevin Jordan earlier.
Uh he caught that pass.

Speaker 8 (01:26:13):
If I'm not mistaken, how the backfield, like you know,
we're watching the Ravens yesterday and you've got Mark Andrews,
and you've got uh Isaiah Likely and Zay Jones, I
mean whoever else lining up in the backfield at times?

Speaker 7 (01:26:26):
Like dude, like do something that you're not doing right now?
Like that pretty much?

Speaker 8 (01:26:32):
If nothing else, I would actually have some respect for
Bobby Slowick against the Titans if huh that's a new Rainkle.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
I hadn't seen that.

Speaker 8 (01:26:39):
Oh okay, that's nice too, Like like, what are you
holding back at this point? Because what you're doing is
not working.

Speaker 7 (01:26:45):
It's not good.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
It's not good. Seven one three, seven ninety is the
number to join. Let's talk to John what's up.

Speaker 7 (01:26:52):
John? Hey, good morning, buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
I can't wait to hear your call this morning. Let's
let's I want you to fire it off, man, come on, yeah, okay,
I'm gonna well he's you know what John, John, real
quick before you before you get started. And one thing
that John's been saying probably over what John, probably over
the last month, maybe month and a half, probably about
the coaching, right, and how you haven't seen improvement or adjustment.

(01:27:18):
So I'm assuming that's where you're gonna go with this call,
because it says just even more proven, right.

Speaker 15 (01:27:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that that's that's exactly what
I want to call in. I'm just reinforcing what I've
been saying. And uh, I mean, they have not shown
any improvement in any area. And I do blame that
on the coaching. I mean, I don't see any improvement anywhere.
And you know, like you made the comment just before
you got to me, your Kansas City seems to be

(01:27:44):
hitting their stride.

Speaker 18 (01:27:45):
Some of these teams are.

Speaker 13 (01:27:46):
Picking it up.

Speaker 15 (01:27:47):
The Texans are just the opposite, and and uh, they're
not improvement. They're not showing any creativity. They're not I mean, yeah,
and I was I was always harder on the offensive line,
of course, but I mean it goes deeper than that.
I mean, the body language of those players is just
not good. I mean when you watch the game, the
body language is just depressing when you see these guys.

Speaker 7 (01:28:09):
And I.

Speaker 15 (01:28:12):
Don't think they're going to make it past the uh,
you know, the first first first game in the playoffs.
I just I just don't. I think in the wild
card round they're they're gonna lose. I think I just don't.
I just don't like the the you know, the lack
of emotion, lack of intensity, you know, lack of you know,
and you just hit it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:33):
You know, there's no.

Speaker 15 (01:28:34):
They're not trying anything new. There's no creativity. They're very predictable.
I'm really hugely disappointed in the coaching staff, I really am,
and it just seems to be getting worse. I mean
there they keep taking a stroud is taking a big
step back, and and in all areas, I just don't
see anything that you can point to that gives you hope.

Speaker 13 (01:28:54):
I just don't.

Speaker 15 (01:28:55):
And uh, that's my problem with the team right now.
I mean it's it's it's a mess, and uh, they're
not fun to watch, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:29:05):
And I don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:29:06):
I just uh, I just don't have any hopes for
this team this year, definitely. I just I just don't
see any kind of a run at all.

Speaker 7 (01:29:13):
I just don't.

Speaker 15 (01:29:14):
Anyways, that's what I want to weigh in.

Speaker 6 (01:29:16):
Appreciate it, John Hope you out to marry Chris we'n. Yeah,
thanks you too, Thanks, Sean, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:21):
You know one thing, that one thing that comes to
mind what he said about body language, Dan, and you
know what we're coming up on break.

Speaker 6 (01:29:27):
We can we can.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
Discuss the next because I just it's easy to compare
c J. Stroud last year to this year. Right, he
hasn't played well. He has taken a step back. It
goes into how bad the offensive line was early with
pass protection. They may have they made a couple of
switches with moving guys from center to left guard, left
guard to center, whatever. So a couple of pieces have
been moved around and it's gotten a little bit better

(01:29:49):
as far as pass protection, but the damage, so to speak,
was already done.

Speaker 7 (01:29:53):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
See, you can tell c J.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
Stroud does not feel comfortable in the pocket this season.
So I I think back to last year with the
energy in the body language compared to this year. And
that's what I want to get into because I want
to get your thoughts on a dance. Let's get a
break and we'll continue to talk about these Texans getting
embarrassed by the Ravens on Christmas Day. Next, let's Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Hello Haters from LA to New York, Parker Roup and
kiss hour ass Astros. Oh my goodness, this is Sports
Talk seven ninety Home of your Astros still twenty seventeen, cheps.

Speaker 13 (01:30:31):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Sewn Salsbury Show continues right now.

Speaker 5 (01:30:40):
Yeah, exactly because you couldn't get a Facebook truly. Do
you have a Facebook? I know you're a little bit younger. Yes, Okay,
so back in the day when Facebook first came out,
you couldn't get a Facebook unless you had a university
email address. You got to be a college student to
get Facebook. That's how started.

Speaker 7 (01:30:54):
I think mine still uses my school email.

Speaker 6 (01:30:57):
So does mine?

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
Clearly, Yeah I don't use right, Yeah, mine, mine is
still logged or registered to that account, even though I don't.
Obviously I don't use it. But I was just scrolling
through Facebook and a husband and a wife were in
a conversation on the wife's status on Facebook, and she

(01:31:18):
said something along the lines of me and my hubby
are finishing up taking down the Christmas tree and decorations.

Speaker 6 (01:31:25):
What a Christmas it was. I'm like, what, that's criminal, man.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
We still got Christmas, we still got Christmas music playing
this morning in December. Christmas was yesterday. You're already taking
down your decorations. Shame on you.

Speaker 7 (01:31:42):
Shame so too.

Speaker 8 (01:31:43):
I mean, Christmas Day, much like Thanksgiving, is supposed to
be an effortless day. You're not supposed to do anything
somewhat strenuous. Like, for example, we used to always go
to Thanksgiving at my mom's relative's house, which God love them,
they're great people here the butt. They're incredibly goofy, and
they like to play board games and you know, do

(01:32:06):
like you know, scategories and like all of these other
like types of games on Thanksgiving. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
you don't understand what Thanksgiving is. Thanksgiving is I get fat.
I watch football, That's what Thanksgiving is. I do very little,
if anything whatsoever. Like this morning, I stepped outside to
go to my car to grab some nicotine pouches, you know,

(01:32:29):
because it's my life blood. I need it and I
you know, as I was coming back to the door,
was like, it's been almost forty eight hours since I
walked through this door. Like that's that's literally what I've
done ever since finishing up my Christmas shopping on early
afternoon Christmas Eve.

Speaker 7 (01:32:45):
I had not stepped foot out of this house.

Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
Yeah, well that's how it should be, though, Like it's
it's it's.

Speaker 8 (01:32:52):
You know, you leave the Christmas decorations up until if
you want to, maybe you know, the thirtieth or something
like that. Sure, but then yeah, once, once it hits
the new year, it's time to start taking down the decorations.
As a matter of fact, the stores are already doing it.
I was in a grocery store the other day. I
see that Valentine's Day.

Speaker 6 (01:33:11):
Dude, come all, are you serious?

Speaker 7 (01:33:13):
Yeah, the Valentine's Day candy is already out terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
That's terrible. Yeah, Valentine's Day sucks. Anyway, it's not even
a holiday, Like we got to stop this. It's a
Hallmark you know, it's just a Hallmark commercial side of things.

Speaker 6 (01:33:25):
But anyway, I.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
Just thought, I'm like, what, we're already taking down our
Christmas tree on the on Christmas Day. No, my Christmas
tree is going to stay up probably till like January sixth.

Speaker 6 (01:33:33):
To be honest with.

Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
You, you know, you know what those people are that
you found on Facebook. Those are people who do Turkey
fun runs. Let me tell you what I have no
designs of doing on Thanksgiving going and running a five k?

Speaker 7 (01:33:48):
How do people that's not happening.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
I don't understand how people run these marathons. And when
the marathons and they the first thing to.

Speaker 6 (01:33:56):
Do is drink a beer.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
I'm like, if I'm ever gonna run a marathon, it's like,
give me an oxygen mask and like a big jugg
of water, not a not an ice cold I p A,
which I PA suck anyways. But like I see so
many people these days and like, you know, these run
clubs are like super popular these days. It's like the
the it thing to do. Oh what run club are
you in?

Speaker 13 (01:34:16):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
I'm in the Woodlands north Shore Park run Club? What
what are you in?

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
I'm in the Parland While like, okay, cool, you can
you can go run without having to you know, tell
us about it?

Speaker 7 (01:34:24):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
So well, these people train for these damn fun runs
or whatever, and the and the gift is a metal
and an ice cold beer. Afterwards, I'm like, no, I'm
about to pass out, give me some water.

Speaker 8 (01:34:36):
I've been told that the beer is for the calories
that you lost and obviously to some other you know,
things that you need after uh running.

Speaker 7 (01:34:45):
But yeah, I as long as.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
You two will know me, I don't think that you're
ever going to hear me talk about uh a run club.

Speaker 7 (01:34:54):
I don't even like running as is.

Speaker 8 (01:34:56):
I don't I I don't ever envision myself ever getting
the runner high.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
I know.

Speaker 7 (01:35:01):
I think that's past. I don't think that's gonna be me.

Speaker 5 (01:35:05):
Dude, we ran our ass off in college. I'm I'm
not running for fun. No thanks, bingo, I don't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:35:13):
And then you know, I mean I get the health
aspects and everything else, but I mean it's also too
as well. Like you know, when I was working a
ton of split shifts here the last few weeks, and
the workout place I go to, they're like, oh, you know,
I hadn't seen you. And one of the guys had
the goal to when I told him what my schedule was,
where he goes, well, you can do early morning, I go,

(01:35:36):
what's sleep? We're throwing around heavy weights. You think that
it's probably smart for me to come in here and
do you know, shoulder to overhead with one hundred and
thirty five pounds when I've had like three hours of sleep?
Do you think that's really a good idea? And he
quickly realized, Yeah, that wasn't a good idea to say.
I was like, yeah, I'm glad you realize that after
the fact, after I laid out the facts for you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:59):
Yeah, you're not gonna catch me doing a run club
for fun. There's no doubt that I will not be
doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:04):
Hey, I know, I know. I tease one thing.

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
Did you see before we even talk about that, did
you guys see Joe Mixon mixing up with the Ravens
backup quarterback Josh Johnson before the game last night?

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
I did, Yeah, dude.

Speaker 7 (01:36:19):
Fall into the stands and everything.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
Yeah, so triple a Texans staffer got hit by a football.
I don't know if it was thrown or kicked by
the Ravens, but Joe Mixon got that football and just
punted the hell out of it straight into the stands.
And then the Ravens started to try to get after
Joe Mixon. He started, uh talking noise to Josh Johnson.

(01:36:42):
They kind of came together. Good stuff. I love Joe Mixon, man,
he kicked the hell out of it. He could be
the backup punter if you needed Tommy Tommy Townsend ever
you know, gets hurt or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:36:52):
But you almost wonder if Joe Mixon tried to channel
the what Travis Kelcey did last year justin Tucker. Yeah,
we're you know, kind of mess with them a little
bit in that regard. And some people wondered if Tucker's
struggles at the middle point of the season this year,
where oh man, he's never been the same since Travis
Kelcey messed with them. But you know, the other one

(01:37:14):
as well is when Josh Johnson got in and they
tried that deep pass, I was like, oh, that's.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
For the pregame. That's that's one hundred percent what that is.

Speaker 8 (01:37:23):
They wanted to try to say, Okay, you want to
mess with the backup quarterback, Well here's the backup quarterback
for you.

Speaker 7 (01:37:29):
Enjoy.

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
Yeah, yeah, enjoy Josh Johnson. All right, real quick, Dan,
I also want to talk talk some astros on on
the show this morning. I'm sure did you see by
chance Scott Boris and what he said about the Astros.

Speaker 6 (01:37:45):
Yeah, a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
We can get into that, Yeah, but I want to.
I think it's it's it's it's less about the Astros.
I'll start off with that before we get into it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Yeah, and so just real quick, you know, we've talked
textans basically for two and a half hours, and the
last thing I want to hit on before we switch
over to Astros is, you know, a couple of our
callers have talked about coaching and execution, lack of execution adjustments,
things like that. One thing that last year we saw
was like high energy guys, high energy from the coaching

(01:38:19):
staff on the sideline, which I think there's still a
bit of it now, but it's like last year they
were like, oh we can actually be kind of good,
Like they were just so surprised on how they were playing.
You saw so much energy, and then this year is
just kind of feel it feels like it's just kind
of going through the motions and there are so much
more talented this year than they are last year. It's
it's it's the comparisons, man. I don't I don't understand it.

(01:38:39):
I really don't.

Speaker 8 (01:38:41):
Well, I mean it's kind of you know, the relationship
example I gave you is that's kind of like the
way a relationship goes. There's a loll in the relationship,
and it's either is that loll going to determine you
guys aren't meant for each other, or is it going
to be somebody made in adjustments and you were able
to grow from there. I gave you the example earlier

(01:39:02):
of the Philadelphia Eagles. They went through that. Demiko Ryans
is going through it right now. Nick Siriani had to
make coaching changes last year to save his job. I mean,
we're already in year two, and I mean I have
not seen any of this. I saw somebody throw out
on Twitter today that people are calling for Demiico Ryans
to be fired again. I almost wonder if that's being

(01:39:23):
made up because I have not seen any of that.
I've never even heard him being really to blame for
most of anything with this team. But what is going
to happen is either it's going to be he's going
to make the change or changes will be made for him.
And I think if you're Demiko Ryans, you don't want
the second one. You want to continue to have control

(01:39:43):
of this football team as much as possible, and the
way you can do that is the Monday after press
conference when the season is over, kind of like what
we heard from Gary Kubiak when he let go of
Frank Bush and a bunch of defensive coaches and Wade
Phillips came in. You want to have that conversation of yeah,
you had to part ways with certain coaches today, and
I think you're gonna have that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
All right, Let's let's switch our discussion over to the
Houston Astros over the last couple of days. I know
Christmas was yesterday, but this was what this was. On
Christmas Eve. Scott Boris had some things to say about
the leadership of Alex Bregman and what the Astros are
going to miss out by not re signing him.

Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
That's next on sport Stock seven.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
To eighty with the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 8 (01:40:33):
And as Brian mentioned too as well, I'm going to
get into some Astros conversation here.

Speaker 7 (01:40:38):
If you want to weigh in, you can do so.

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us on Twitter at Sports Talk seven ninety. So Sima
had mentioned about some comments made by Scott Boris over

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the weekend, and that actually even wasn't over the weekend,
it was Christmas eve Is. So when we saw these
comments made to Chandler, roam of the athletic as. The
Astros of course were in pursuit to try to bring
Alex Bregman back, and with the signing of Christian Walker
on the Friday before that threw that all out the window.

(01:41:27):
And now the Astros are going to ride with an
infield that has Esakpretis over at third base and also
Christian Walker over at first And you heard Dana Brown
say last week that the negotiations with Bregman had stalled. Well,
Boris a quick quote that Chandler reposted on Twitter over

(01:41:49):
time teams learn if you're running from leadership and talent,
you're running away from the ultimate goal.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
Now, on the surface, I know that a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:41:58):
Of Astros fans are gonna look at that, because let's
be honest all throughout this entire process. There have been
people who have pointed at Jim Crane, you're too cheap.
Why are you letting guys like Alex Bregman go? That
could be the final piece that completely unravels this thing,
as you were able to do this with George Springer.

Speaker 7 (01:42:14):
It's worked out.

Speaker 8 (01:42:15):
Springer has not been the same player since he went
to the Toronto Blue Jays. He's had good times in
Minnesota and he being Carlos Korea. But overall, I don't
necessarily know if you've had your stomach that loss quite
as much. And of course you trade away Kyle Tucker.
I mean, it's what was part of making this organization
the standard all throughout Major League Baseball the last few seasons.

(01:42:38):
It's slowly starting to look completely different, and that scares people.
I get all of that, but I read that quote
from Scott Boris and I go an opposite direction. He's
upset about one thing, his leverage is now gone. And
the other part of all of it, as well, is
this is an agent who is trying to drum up
interest in his client and get him the most lucrative

(01:42:58):
deal that he can possibly get. But what was always
hanging over this entire situation with Alex Bregman was a
thought around major League Baseball. He's probably gonna end up
back with the Astros. I mean, I think that people
probably saw shades of Aaron Judge last season when he
was going through the negotiations.

Speaker 7 (01:43:17):
Could he actually leave the Yankees?

Speaker 8 (01:43:19):
And even for a brief time there was thought that yeah,
he could. And I mean it was even reported out
there that he'd come to an agreement with the Giants,
but eventually he went back to the Yankees. And I mean,
you know, Brian, I feel like this is kind of
the similar situation playing out here, is that this is
an agent and Scott Boris who wants to be able

(01:43:39):
to get his client the best deal possible, but also
too in being able to get the best deal possible.
It's trying to tell other teams, hey, you know, they
really want him back there, And the Astros pretty quickly said, look,
we're not gonna play your cat and mouse game anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:43:55):
Either your client wants to be here or he doesn't.

Speaker 8 (01:43:58):
And I believe Dana because he's been nothing but transparent.
Whenever he comes on with you guys every single week
with Sean, that's when he says they stalled. It's more
on the other side, if Bregman still wanted to be
an Astro, he would have been an Astro, don't I
don't think there's any doubt about that. And it's not
to say he didn't want to come back, but I
think he also too wanted to play the game of Hey,

(01:44:21):
I want to get the best deal possible out there,
but he wanted to have the best of both worlds
in this regard, and the Astros did what many teams
do in this situation, said, look, we're not going to
you know, hang our hopes on it. Maybe you'll be
back and maybe you'll.

Speaker 7 (01:44:37):
Accept our offer.

Speaker 8 (01:44:39):
We're gonna go ahead and take the game into our hands.
We're gonna get our corner end field set up and
if that's with you, great, If it's not, then we've
still got games we have to try to win.

Speaker 7 (01:44:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
I think at the end of the day, it's gonna
come down to where does Alex Bergman want to go?

Speaker 6 (01:44:51):
Does he want to be an Astro? Well, it didn't
seem like it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:54):
I mean, he was averaged, you know, offered a salary
that would give Hi an a of twenty six million
dollars a year, and this whole time. You know, one
of the things that we've discussed on this show is
do you pay him between twenty six and twenty eight.
I probably would have, but when he gets up towards
twenty nine to thirty million, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 7 (01:45:12):
And so I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
I don't think the Marcus is as big as we thought.
I think there's a couple of teams still involved in
trying to sign Alex Bregman, but I don't think he's
gonna get over two hundred million. And I think this
is just it's like, this is what Boris does. Man like,
this is his playbook. When it comes to these big
time superstars. They get out in front and they sign
them within a week of the season, two weeks of

(01:45:33):
the season, or maybe even around the winner meetings. But
for these and I'm not saying Alex Bregman isn't a superstar.
He's done fantastic things here for the Houston Astros. But
I you know, Willia Domas has already been signed, Matt
Chapman was signed, you know some of these other He's
not a middle of the road guy, but he's not
a He's.

Speaker 6 (01:45:53):
Not Juan Soto.

Speaker 5 (01:45:54):
He's not Aaron Judge, Right, So him and uh Pete
Alonso both still free agents, Like, what's that about? You
know there's teams, So what's the hold up? Why why
haven't they signed anywhere? Is this a case where we're
gonna see them, excuse me, going to the new year
and not have find homes until pitchers and catchers report,
like we've seen in the past.

Speaker 6 (01:46:13):
That's right around the corner, Dan Well.

Speaker 8 (01:46:15):
I mean, I think there's a little bit of vanity
too from Scott Boris's side, because last offseason he took
it into shorts.

Speaker 7 (01:46:21):
He had a bad offseason.

Speaker 8 (01:46:22):
He did, yeah, for the reasons that you just mentioned.
And this year he's had a better one with Juan
Soto and I'm trying to think of any of his
other clients that are out there. I don't know if
he's a Max Freed guy, but regardless, he's had a
better off season. And now this is kind of the
final part of it all. I mean, you mentioned Pete Alonso,

(01:46:43):
you mentioned Alex Bregman. I mean, you know, those are
both guys that I think probably overshot the market, and
you know, to your point, I mean, you know he's
trying to draum up interest in his client.

Speaker 7 (01:46:53):
That's what his job is.

Speaker 8 (01:46:54):
But also too, I mean, if he was such a
coveted client in terms of getting the deal that he
thought he should get, why hasn't it already been done? Right,
Because you would think at this point it's done. You
have teams out there who are looking at him and saying,
like the player don't like the price, and that's clearly
evident right now.

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
Yeah, I think the market is is not as big.
I think there's Like I said, I think there's only
a few teams, and I thought, I think originally Scott
Bors was going into this with Alex Bregman, that there
would be five, six, seven teams all willing to go
to go to the table and get him, you know,

(01:47:33):
offers of what one hundred and eighty plus And the
only thing that we've heard is the ash was offered
six for one point fifty six. I think Cameron, if
it was the Yankees or maybe the Mets. I had
heard that there was another offer I forgot from which
team upwards of one hundred and eighty million, but that

(01:47:54):
was never actually fully reported. So as of right now,
the biggest offer is one hundred fifty six million dollars,
which averages out the twenty six a year. And yet
he's still a free agent and all the other pieces
have fallen, all the dominoes. Uh had started with the
want soda, and then you go into the winter meetings,
and yet he's still a free agent.

Speaker 6 (01:48:15):
So Scott bores want.

Speaker 5 (01:48:17):
He could say, uh, did you read the quote by
chance Dan about what he said Scott boys.

Speaker 8 (01:48:23):
Yeah, that you know, over time, if you sacrifice leadership,
it comes back to bite you so many words. Yeah,
he's I did, Yeah, but again that's it's it's preservation
for him, it's it's he thought, no matter what that
the Astros were going to be scared, you know what,
lists to lose Alex Bregman. But the Astros quickly were,

(01:48:46):
you know, true to their word in terms of contingency
plans out there, and they acted on it. And he
feels kind of like, well, wait a minute, I thought
we were always gonna be able to come back to
you guys. They were like, yeah, we were, but the
calendar is turning into January. We would like to be
able to figure out if we have our corner infield
set up. So Dana Brown went ahead and called his

(01:49:08):
bluff on it and said, all right, fine, we'll go
get this guy for half the price that will play
gold Glove caliber first base and a guy that will
absolutely put balls over the Crawford boxes and moss and
eat soak. Peretis And yeah, you take a step back
with the glove a little, although I've been.

Speaker 7 (01:49:26):
Told he's a better defender than people give them credit for.

Speaker 8 (01:49:29):
So all in all, I mean, I think the Astros
played this beautifully.

Speaker 5 (01:49:33):
Yeah, and Scott Boris said, quote, over time, teams learn
if you're running from leadership and talent, you're running from
the ultimate goal. End quote that coming from Chandler Roam
of the Athletic Right. Let's get to break seven one, three, two,
two five, seven ninety is the number to join in
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got a couple guys that want to way in, so
we'll get out to your calls next as we roll
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Hey, good one to tell us Mary, Christmas to you both.
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Speaker 24 (01:53:06):
You guys were talking about, you know, Bregman overprice in himself.

Speaker 18 (01:53:10):
I just don't feel like I think he overpriced himself
on that two ten or whatever.

Speaker 24 (01:53:13):
He was like a court when neither he whenever he
became a free agent. Pey were like, yeah, pay the man,
and you know, Ashal finds out was going to be
like that, pay them man, pay them man. But as
it goes on, I think everybody in baseball world starts to.

Speaker 18 (01:53:25):
Realize put on where is his true value?

Speaker 16 (01:53:28):
I think that actually give him a fair, fair offer
my pinion because as far as the Astros fan base,
from what I see on Facebook, you know anywhere, they're like,
why would we pay a guy.

Speaker 24 (01:53:38):
Two hundred plus for six seven years to only play
half a season? If it takes you half a season
to get going? I mean, what's the whe where's the
other money going? That's the way they see it. Then
I think the Ashros saw that, Yeah, you do have value,
but it's a fair trade.

Speaker 18 (01:53:52):
Look at Chapman.

Speaker 24 (01:53:53):
You said to yourself, Brian that Brekman has never won,
never wins the gold Gloves because Chapman is always winning.

Speaker 18 (01:54:00):
And now that Chapman is not in in the A,
he's not an al anymore.

Speaker 24 (01:54:03):
He's with the Giants. They give him that trade. So
now puts you like, yeah, they're in the same ballpark.
A little bit more would be better for Bregman, which
they did to give him.

Speaker 23 (01:54:11):
But still, do you do you still.

Speaker 24 (01:54:14):
Want to pay that two ten If as was, I
give him that contract, then do you know that's his offer?

Speaker 7 (01:54:19):
Man?

Speaker 24 (01:54:19):
If nobody's give him one, just took it when he
had a chance.

Speaker 18 (01:54:23):
But now where does he go?

Speaker 24 (01:54:24):
And sort of reminds me of what Kaiko did with
us whinning more money. He waited to have the season
and he gets signed with the Braves and Kyko's not
leaving it even in the league anymore.

Speaker 18 (01:54:33):
So that's all I got.

Speaker 8 (01:54:34):
Guys, appreciate you appreciated, Philip Pelipe, Thanks, Bunny, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
I think what we're gonna see. I think Alex Bregman
will end up with the Boston Red Sox. That is
where I think he's gonna go.

Speaker 8 (01:54:47):
Well, it's also too, I mean, what type of deal
does he get. I mean, we saw a similar situation
play out with Carlos Korea here. I mean I remember
James Klick being there in West Palm Beach still being
asked about Korea if it was a possibility that he
could be a late arrival to camp because the Astros
re signed him, and then a day or two later

(01:55:07):
that's when you got the you know, opt out laden
deal that he got with the Twins, and then the
following off season after he had opted out, it was
medicals that kept him from the Mets. It was medicals
that kept him from the Giants. Now he's back with
the Twins and he got the deal that I think
he always wanted. And you know, he's been able to

(01:55:29):
put together a good season in between those times, but
he's also been you know, he's also kind of declined
a little bit in terms of the production that he
had when he was here. So I mean, it's again
to me, if he was so coveted, he'd be signed already.
And you know, I keep hearing people talk about Detroit,

(01:55:50):
a buddy of mine, you know, who covers the team.

Speaker 7 (01:55:53):
I was talking with them.

Speaker 8 (01:55:54):
I think Detroit's thing is number one, they want to
figure out long term with Trek Skubele and if that's
a possibility for them, but also too as well.

Speaker 7 (01:56:03):
His point was incredibly valid.

Speaker 8 (01:56:05):
They did the splash free agent deal with Hobby Baias
and it fell flat. And I think that with Bregmant,
with his slow starts and the offense not being what
it's been since twenty nineteen, that's a little bit of
buyer beware for them of does this guy get here
in the offense completely falls off where he was in Houston.
That it's kind of a similar situation. I think that's

(01:56:28):
what kind of scares the Detroit Tigers out of this
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
Well, I look at third base contracts and I'm gonna
take Anthony Rendons out of the question because he is
just pulling highway robbery on every team that he's ever
been on. He's making an AAV of thirty five million
a year. He never plays, he's always hurt, So take
him out right. The next highest paid third baseman per
AAV would be Nolan Aronado. He signed at twenty seven

(01:56:54):
years old an eight year contract two hundred and sixty
million dollars in AAV of thirty two point five.

Speaker 6 (01:56:58):
Then he got Manny Machado. He's in the class of
his own.

Speaker 5 (01:57:00):
He's got three hundred and fifty million dollars total over
a span of eleven years. He signed it at the
age of thirty, and he's making thirty one point eight
per the AAV. Obviously there's probably frontloaded, backload of whatever.
I don't have those details. Then it's Rafaelle Devers thirty
one point three five, and then it drops off and
it's next as Matt Chapman at twenty five point one.

(01:57:21):
So you look at these third basemen as Alex Bregman
worth more than Rafael Devers I don't think he is
Mana Machado. No, Nolan Arnado's on the you know, older
part of his career. But he's still won ten gold
gloves and he's making thirty two and a half. So
I think teams are looking at that, and I think
teams are not willing to go over twenty eight million dollars,

(01:57:42):
which I said in the very beginning. I probably wouldn't
pay him more than twenty eight million dollars. You can
still make him a competitive offer. And that's how Dana
Brown feels that he even said it.

Speaker 7 (01:57:52):
Quote.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
The club knows that we made him a competitive offer
six for one fifty six and when you look in
when you look at those numbers, how it stacks up
against other third basements. I think it's right there where
it should be. I would probably pay him a little
bit more. I maybe make it twenty seven to twenty eight,
but anything over than that, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 7 (01:58:10):
Not doing it too.

Speaker 6 (01:58:12):
You'd be right there with the other third baseman.

Speaker 8 (01:58:15):
Well, I mean, and you know, take out Aeronato for
the reasons that you mentioned about the declining production at
the plate. I mean, he's not as good a hit
her as Manny Machado is. He's not as good a
hit her either power or average wise, as Raphael Devers is.
So that's the reason why those guys get that money.
But it's also too I mean, you hit that thirty

(01:58:36):
year old mark and he's going to be thirty one
this year. I believe, yep. That I think is another
part of it all. But I think what really is
the crux at all of this is that Scott Boris
really truly thought the Astros were going to get emotional
and that they were going to bid against themselves.

Speaker 7 (01:58:51):
And what we heard from Dana Brown is it sounds
like they didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:58:55):
It sounds like they said business is business, and we're
gonna continue to treat it as such, and we're going
to continue to treat it the same way that we
treated you know, the discussions with Carlos Correa, with George Springer,
anybody else out there, that you eventually let walk and
move on. And I mean that's what the Astros did.
They made the decision of Okay, we can either wait

(01:59:17):
around for Bregmant and lose out on everyone else, or
we can go with what we know is a sure
thing right now of being able to add the most
sought after free agent first baseman in this cycle. They
did that and then making the trade with k with
the Chicago for Kyle Tucker to get eat Zack Perettis.

Speaker 7 (01:59:33):
A guy that they wanted the deadline last year.

Speaker 8 (01:59:35):
So, I mean, that's that's what really is at the
crux of all of this with Scott Boris, he's got
hurt feelings when he probably more than anybody should know
what the business side of this game is.

Speaker 6 (01:59:47):
Yeah, that's a good point about Scott Boris.

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Speaker 7 (02:00:48):
Brandon?

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Good morning, Dan, Good morning Brian.

Speaker 7 (02:00:51):
How are you well?

Speaker 6 (02:00:52):
Good buddy?

Speaker 7 (02:00:52):
What's up buddy? How are you merry Christmas?

Speaker 22 (02:00:55):
Mary? Yeah, merry Christmas?

Speaker 13 (02:00:57):
How and okay?

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
I got a new player?

Speaker 6 (02:01:01):
You got it? You got it for Christmas? Let's go.
How is it.

Speaker 8 (02:01:06):
Under?

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
All right?

Speaker 14 (02:01:07):
No?

Speaker 6 (02:01:07):
How's the record player? Brandon? Not you? Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
Say that again. It's doing. Okay, it's doing.

Speaker 7 (02:01:15):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:01:16):
You just got it? So is it not good? I
mean you've been playing some music on it?

Speaker 22 (02:01:20):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (02:01:21):
Just okay?

Speaker 18 (02:01:22):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (02:01:22):
We got to give it back? You want to give
it back to Santa?

Speaker 18 (02:01:24):
Or No?

Speaker 6 (02:01:25):
No, I did?

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
All right, I will.

Speaker 22 (02:01:29):
I will listen to you guys on no record player later, Okay?

Speaker 13 (02:01:34):
Cool.

Speaker 7 (02:01:34):
I've always wanted to be on vinyl? Yeah? Really?

Speaker 6 (02:01:37):
Did you get any vinyls with it? Brandon?

Speaker 3 (02:01:42):
Uh no, but I need to talk about astros?

Speaker 5 (02:01:45):
Hang on, Brandon, hold on, we got time for sports, buddy,
We got we got time for that. Did you get
any records for your record player?

Speaker 4 (02:01:52):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
I did, I got and I got a.

Speaker 3 (02:01:58):
I got a.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
Beatles?

Speaker 5 (02:02:02):
You got the Beatles? Did you get anything else with it?
Or just the Beatles. That's it, and you got to
add to your collection.

Speaker 6 (02:02:09):
I got a for my man is my man is
jamming in the background.

Speaker 8 (02:02:15):
He's full on demonstration.

Speaker 6 (02:02:19):
Right yeah, nice man. All right, what do you what
you got about these astros?

Speaker 13 (02:02:22):
Brandon?

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
We do need to play hard.

Speaker 5 (02:02:31):
Yeah, that's that's every year, though, Brandon. They got to
play hard every year, every game. You know, you take
it one pitch at the time, right, yeah.

Speaker 22 (02:02:39):
Okay, in Washington for I think I did that.

Speaker 5 (02:02:46):
Yeah, you're gonna have to ask your Alexa that. What
did you didn't you rename it?

Speaker 7 (02:02:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:02:51):
Ask Amazon that. Then you name it to Amazon. Right, yes,
there you go, ask Amazon that. We don't have that
for you right now.

Speaker 14 (02:03:00):
Yeah, we're porying Washington.

Speaker 5 (02:03:02):
Okay, well, well that's in March, February and March, so
a couple months away.

Speaker 13 (02:03:08):
Dan.

Speaker 22 (02:03:09):
How is your Christmas?

Speaker 8 (02:03:11):
It was good, buddy, it was really good. I got
Santa was good to me.

Speaker 5 (02:03:18):
Yeah, and I got a new the CD of.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
Oh Click Black Nice.

Speaker 5 (02:03:30):
Oh there go, there you go, Brandon. We appreciate the call, buddy.
We'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (02:03:34):
Right, have a good week YouTube Brandon, me see.

Speaker 7 (02:03:37):
You, buddy.

Speaker 5 (02:03:38):
Nice man, got him a vine got him, some Vinyl
got him, a uh got him, a couple of CDs.

Speaker 6 (02:03:47):
Yeah, CD's nuts.

Speaker 8 (02:03:50):
No, See, none of us walked into that one right there.
You forced that one.

Speaker 7 (02:03:55):
So as if those jokes are never forced, well, I
mean sometimes people walk into them. Yeah, basically like Harry,
Harry and Marv and you know somebody's gonna get it
with the paint can. Yeah. I ducked out of the
way of that one right there.

Speaker 5 (02:04:09):
Yeah, plus the the brick in Home Alone two.

Speaker 7 (02:04:14):
Mm hmmm, Kerosene, did you watch a lot of Chris?

Speaker 6 (02:04:18):
Did you watch a lot of Christmas movies this time around?

Speaker 13 (02:04:20):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (02:04:21):
Let's see, we did Christmas Vacation on Eve, and then
after we did so, the adults did Presence on Eve,
and then of course, you know Christmas Days for the kids.
Now we started to watch the Office Christmas Party episodes

(02:04:42):
from the Office, and they're they're all great, every single
one of them.

Speaker 6 (02:04:45):
Think of what I watched.

Speaker 5 (02:04:48):
Christmas Vacation, Home Alone, Home Alone two, Jingle all the
Way a Christmas story of course.

Speaker 7 (02:04:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:04:59):
What else?

Speaker 7 (02:04:59):
Did I watch? Christmas with the Cranks?

Speaker 6 (02:05:06):
What do you say?

Speaker 7 (02:05:08):
I watched Diehard?

Speaker 6 (02:05:09):
It's not a Christmas movie though.

Speaker 5 (02:05:12):
No, No, it's a it's an action movie that has just
happened to be filmed during Christmas time.

Speaker 7 (02:05:17):
Christmas music all through it. There's no Christmas references, no
Christmas to you? Do you do?

Speaker 13 (02:05:24):
You?

Speaker 6 (02:05:24):
Do you like Miles? Do you like? Do you like
the movie First Blood?

Speaker 7 (02:05:33):
Is that an Arnold movie?

Speaker 5 (02:05:34):
No, it's a Sly Sylvester Stallone. It sucks. It's one
of the worst movies of all time. And Sean and
Triviley love so does so does Adam Clanton.

Speaker 6 (02:05:44):
They like it's terrible.

Speaker 8 (02:05:46):
Fly because because you know, I mean, basically Sly in
Arnold pretty much did the same movies. Yeah, just you know,
it was do you want Sly or do you want Arnold?

Speaker 7 (02:05:55):
Like Commando?

Speaker 8 (02:05:57):
Some people some some people look down on command I
think that Commando is a fantastic movie.

Speaker 6 (02:06:02):
Never even seen Commando.

Speaker 7 (02:06:04):
It's a good one. It's got one of the best lines.

Speaker 8 (02:06:06):
He kills a guy on the plane and makes it
look like he's sleeping and tells the flight attendant, will
you please not to stub my friend here?

Speaker 7 (02:06:13):
He's good.

Speaker 6 (02:06:15):
Yeah, I've never never even heard of that movie. What's
it called? Commando?

Speaker 7 (02:06:20):
Commando?

Speaker 6 (02:06:21):
So have you never seen. Uh have you never seen
First Blood?

Speaker 7 (02:06:24):
I've never seen First Blood.

Speaker 6 (02:06:25):
Well, you're not missing anything. It's it's awful, it's not good.

Speaker 8 (02:06:29):
It's just it's it's the Rambo franchise, isn't it correct.

Speaker 6 (02:06:33):
Yeah, it's the very first one of Rambo Johnny Rambo.

Speaker 8 (02:06:35):
And I did see that people were pointing that out
on social media that when he gets taken to the
Sheriff's station that there is a Christmas tree in the background.

Speaker 7 (02:06:44):
So they're like, oh, it's a Christmas movie.

Speaker 13 (02:06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:06:46):
No, there's even.

Speaker 8 (02:06:49):
Our our Morning counterpart over on ninety four to five.
Alex of course has passed the Gravy podcast and he
had brought it up, and I had thought about it
earlier in the day. He goes a Good Fellows a
Christmas movie, and I was like, well, you know, there
is quite a bit of Christmas scenes in it, so
it could be. I like mob movies during Christmas season.
I don't know why.

Speaker 6 (02:07:09):
I don't either, man.

Speaker 5 (02:07:11):
I mean my movies are good, but around Christmas and
that kind of kind of different from me. Hey, by
the way, we just uh, we're gonna have Aaron Wilson,
NFL Insider joined us at nine thirty this morning, Talk
Texans and that ass whooping that uh Baltimore put put
on them.

Speaker 6 (02:07:25):
Because Aaron's done a lot.

Speaker 5 (02:07:26):
He did a lot of time in his career in Baltimore,
so he's gonna know that team very well. Obviously, he's
on the on the up and up with the Houston.
Texan's always giving us a good information on Friday, but
since they played on Wednesday, we'll talk to him at
nine thirty seven three two two five seven ninety is
the number to join Biscuit Big Jay, don't go anywhere.

Speaker 6 (02:07:42):
We'll get to you guys next right here on Sports
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Speaker 25 (02:09:24):
What's up, Big Jay, Good morning, guys, Happy day after Christmas.

Speaker 7 (02:09:29):
Man.

Speaker 25 (02:09:29):
You know, the Texans game looked like a high school
wind our Thursday practice in shorts and T shirts, and
the Ravens were the varsity and the Texans were the
freshmen and the JV man. They were just running right
through them. And you know, Lamar's running around like it
was just u It was just a high school practice, Scott.
That was hard to watch and it reminded me. I

(02:09:49):
know this is a baseball reference, but what Harry Doyle said,
we only got two gosh darn points. Good night, that
was rough. But what I really I want to talk about,
and this may be old news, I want to get
your guys' thoughts of this whole like ESPN thing, like
Ryan Clark versus Aaron Rodgers, and then you got Shannon
Sharp going at kirk Kirk Street. And I know this

(02:10:12):
is off kilter, but I'm just I'm having problems with
these grown men going at it like on social media.
These guys blow my mind, like they are alpha's and
they have made it in their industries, but they're like
having to go after each other. So I just find
that totally odd. And help me understand or what what
what these guys are doing if that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (02:10:34):
Yeah, definitely, Big Jay. I hope you had a great
Christmas Man. Thanks for the call.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
Yes, all right, so real quick, Dan, because we got
to get the biscuit as well before we get NFL
inside Aaron Wilson.

Speaker 6 (02:10:42):
Excuse me when it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:43):
Comes to the I'll start with Ryan Clark and and
Aaron Rodgers. I am so tired of Aaron Rodgers. I
am you talk about the chief's exhaustion of the chiefs,
meaning we hear about the chiefs and they're always good.

Speaker 6 (02:10:56):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (02:10:57):
I am so tired of Aaron Rodgers, and I'm so
tired of hearing him talk out of his ass, and
I'm so tired of here and bringing up vaccination status
and I'm just I'm over Aaron Rodgers completely. He's not
a good football player this year. Their team sucks, and
he's got rabbit ears every time someone in the media
says anything about it, he always has to make a
point of it.

Speaker 6 (02:11:15):
When he goes on with Pat McAfee.

Speaker 5 (02:11:17):
I'm not even the biggest fan of Ryan Clark at all,
whether it's on his podcast or on ESPN.

Speaker 6 (02:11:23):
I really can't stand the dude.

Speaker 5 (02:11:25):
But what he said, he's a he criticizing Aaron Rodgers
because he hasn't played good football this year. That's what
these personalities on TV do. They analyze and criticize. It's
the day and age that we're in now. When it
comes to Shannon Sharp and Kirk Herbstreet, I don't know
if you've ever watched Shannon Sharp and Ocho Sinkle on

(02:11:47):
their podcast together called The Nightcap. They are hilarious. I
love listening to those two guys on their podcasts. I
don't like first take anymore. I think Steven A. Smith
yells and screams and talks out of his ass. He
doesn't always have the correct information, and then Shannon Sharp
gets in it, gets in on it too.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
I thought, in this.

Speaker 5 (02:12:05):
Instance, with what Kirk Kurbstreet said on that broadcast when
they were watching the oh House or when they were
calling the Ohio State game, he didn't call out Shannon Sharp.
He just caught out the show that he happens to
make appearances on. And I thought, in that situation for
Shannon Sharp to respond the way that he did, try
to play that whole big tough guy role like, oh,
there's not enough bosses in here for what I would say,

(02:12:27):
blah blah blah, what are you gonna do? Man, You're
gonna beat up Kirk Kurbstreet over him saying you guys
wanted Ryan Day fired, which is exactly what you said.
So I think it was a sensitive He just a
little too sensitive for me. But again, all these guys
work in the same work, all work for ESPN, all
going after each other. I just think guys in the

(02:12:48):
media these days just have too many rabbit ears, man,
and they just pay attention to the wrong stuff. And
then Shannon Sharp did clarify on his podcast that him
and Kirk shared some text messages. They talked about it. Whatever,
grown man. But just the first reaction for Shannon Sharp
to be like, oh, you know, oh, Kirk, blah blah blah,
you know, trying to make this whole like I'm a

(02:13:08):
big tough guy act. I thought it was kind of
soft man. It was just kind of soft. So those
are my thoughts on it.

Speaker 7 (02:13:14):
It's just it feels contrived. I mean that's with the
Shannon Sharp, the you know, angle of it. It just
it feels like it's forced.

Speaker 8 (02:13:22):
It feels like it's almost trying too hard to make
this into like a WWE s storyline, and that feeds
into the build up to get to Summer Slam or
to WrestleMania. There's not going to be any of those things.
It's somebody who takes themselves way too seriously who felt
like they were insulted when you just laid it out
in reality, they weren't. And if you're gonna be upset

(02:13:44):
with Kirk Curve Street and be upset with Nick Saban
because Nick Saban said basically the exact same thing on
college game day and it was lauded as oh my god,
Nick Saban said it, So it must be the.

Speaker 7 (02:13:54):
Bible with Ryan Clark.

Speaker 8 (02:13:57):
You know, we're taught in this business to never make
it personal. And I think that not only did he
make it personal in terms of his own personal beliefs,
but you know, he took that to the air, and
I think that it takes away from what his job
primarily is he's an analyst, and I think he's actually
very good when he talks football. It's things like this

(02:14:20):
and getting involved in this that I think if nothing else,
I mean, either if that's a boss at ESPN or
if it's a friend of his that you know kind
of you know, showed him the ropes in this industry
and got him to that point, pull him back and
say you're not gonna win this, dude, Like you're not
going to win this. He will have a platform on
the mcaffee show. He will say what he wants to
say on the McAfee show, and he's gonna have people

(02:14:42):
who are gonna be on his side regardless. And getting
back to it with Ryan Clark, he's an outstanding analyst,
Like do that do that part of it? Like when
you're getting into all of these things and let's not
let's not kid ourselves here, he doesn't. He doesn't see
eye to eye with Aaron Rodgers because he doesn't agree
ideologically with the way that Aaron Rodgers thinks about the world.

(02:15:06):
And and that's that's what it really comes down to.
And you're getting into that now you're starting to allow
for a dimension of this argument that does not you
do not want to be part of and that's making
this political. If you want to do politics, go do politics.
I don't have any problem with it. And I've said
the same thing to people in this industry. You want

(02:15:27):
to get into politics, stop doing sports, Go do politics
because there there is a medium for you to do it,
because people here they don't want your politics. And I
mean that's just the reality of it. And you can
try to say, oh, well, I'm not really being myself. No,
I think you're trying too hard to be what you
think that you are, and that's just not it's it's

(02:15:49):
not interesting to people. They don't want that.

Speaker 5 (02:15:52):
No, we don't tired of it, tired of freaking politics.
Man seven one three, two one two five seven nine
needs get out the biscuit and then we're gonna come
in NFL and Tideren Wilson's biscuit.

Speaker 6 (02:16:01):
What's happening?

Speaker 22 (02:16:03):
Hey, what's not?

Speaker 23 (02:16:04):
My brothers ay?

Speaker 26 (02:16:05):
Then do they really teach you're not supposed to get personalized?

Speaker 23 (02:16:10):
Do they tease that anymore?

Speaker 26 (02:16:12):
I haven't behind time believing that because most of that
people I see him on sports in or any show
nowadays make everything personal it's all about their beliefs, so
we man leeve but We've talked about that with Sean.

Speaker 23 (02:16:26):
I've talked about them for time. At the time. Man,
it's all about getting.

Speaker 26 (02:16:30):
Clicks and uh, you know, throwing your opinion out their facts.
E damn, that's why I see you know so uh
you know, Brian Clark, Yes you don't.

Speaker 7 (02:16:43):
You're not wrong. But I mean it's also though too.

Speaker 8 (02:16:45):
I mean, long term strategy, that's a bad strategy because
you can only go that well so often before it
becomes stick.

Speaker 23 (02:16:53):
Yeah, but look at look where I got steven A.
I hear what you're saying. But look where I got
steven A.

Speaker 26 (02:16:59):
Look where I got you.

Speaker 23 (02:17:00):
Had a shan you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 26 (02:17:02):
Uh, you know when to me, a lot of the
guys are not uh into being analytical as much as
about the game and the strategies. And and I get
that because most people that's not what they want to hear.
People want to hear the drama. They want to hear
you know, all these back and forth beasts, and you know,
so that's that's the society we live in, you know,

(02:17:24):
And unfortunately, you know, I'm a I'm a I'm a
sports guy, man.

Speaker 23 (02:17:29):
I just watched boys. I ain't watching no movies.

Speaker 26 (02:17:32):
I was flipping back and forth the basketball games or
the football games. I'm watching all the sports man, limouth.
I'm I'm just all sports man.

Speaker 2 (02:17:40):
And and and.

Speaker 23 (02:17:42):
That number eight on Baltimore that's a bad man.

Speaker 26 (02:17:46):
And then you know the text the question I called
in to ask, man, And let me say this a
little thing much.

Speaker 23 (02:17:51):
I know you and Sean were not a big friend
of Beyonce, and let me tell you this.

Speaker 26 (02:17:55):
Man, she might not move y'all, but she shown't move me,
and she helped me move.

Speaker 23 (02:18:00):
Looks she helped me move Brown after that night. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:18:06):
Yah yah.

Speaker 26 (02:18:10):
Let me let me ask you the question, man, this
is I'm gonna ask the question you Mma and Dan
as the Texan and you Demko Ryans and and because Sara,
what's the GM over there?

Speaker 6 (02:18:21):
Yeah? Nick Cia?

Speaker 23 (02:18:22):
Are you are you gonna.

Speaker 26 (02:18:24):
Go into the playoffs on a three game loser streak
four out at last five or you're gonna play your
players this week and try to get some things straightened out.

Speaker 6 (02:18:35):
Good question, Biscuit, Thank you for the call.

Speaker 13 (02:18:36):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:18:38):
After an asked whoppen like that. You know, we canna
ask to ask you know what we can ask uh
NFL inside Aaron Wilson, Dan, because he'll have an answer.

Speaker 7 (02:18:47):
But that's a seg.

Speaker 6 (02:18:48):
Yeah, perfect segue.

Speaker 7 (02:18:49):
That's that's that's that's the way you handle that.

Speaker 5 (02:18:51):
Right there we go, let's uh, let's get the break
and we're gonna welcome in NFL insider Aaron Wilson to
talk Texans and Ravens next and Sports Talk seven to eighty.

Speaker 7 (02:19:01):
We've out there.

Speaker 3 (02:19:02):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 5 (02:19:06):
Now it's time to welcome an NFL insider, Aaron Wilson
to the show. Aaron Wilson covering the NFL and the
Texans for KPRC two Channel two Sports. You can find
him on Twitter at Aaron Wilson Underscore NFL. You can
also find his work on our website Sports seven ninety
dot com. Aaron Merry Christmas. Hope you had a great

(02:19:27):
holiday with your loved ones. Obviously you were at the
game yesterday and just right there to start, Aaron, it
was ugly to say the least. Lamar Jackson and Derek
Henry did everything they wanted against these Texans. Just simple
question What is your biggest takeaway from that ass whooping
the Ravens put on the Texans yesterday.

Speaker 13 (02:19:45):
Well, I agree with the assessor of the players in
the locker, including Robert Wood and moll Anderson Jr. They
called it embarrassing and they should be embarrassed. It is
a very bad look for a team that's a playoff
team to be uncompetitive, to not be able to tackle,
to take such poor pursuit angles, to look like you're

(02:20:06):
standing still. Lamar Jackson said that he was just jogging
even though he's running twenty one miles per hour, fastest
of his career on that touchdown run. And they were
confused by the two tight end sets in the backfield
and all that is to clear space. Todd Munkin out
coached the Texans. It's an ugly performance, substandard, and they're

(02:20:29):
usually stat on defense on the other side of the football.
I think this is more concerning and my bigger takeaway
for CJ. Stroud to keep missing these open throws, to
be under this much dress, to not play like the confident,
vibrant quarterback that he was just a year ago, it's
very concerning. You know, have they broken CJ. Stroud due
to the lack of protection and has that affected his mechanics, Yes,

(02:20:54):
I believe it has. He throws off his back foot,
his delivery isn't the same. He really has to go
back to square one or where he is as a quarterback.
And we know he's talented, we know that he has
the right mental makeup and character. The issue is, you know,
given you're affected by what's going on in front of you,

(02:21:14):
it affects everything. And no, he doesn't have really ideal weapons,
but he's got some things that he needs to be effective.
And I don't think the stats really tell the true
story of how rough a game that was for CJ. Stroud.
And yeah, the Ravens are a good defense, but you know,
you can't just always say well they're good, or we

(02:21:35):
make mistakes so we don't execute. At some point that
becomes who you are. I thought very very telling comment
from will Anderson. And he doesn't usually show a lot
of frustration, but this time he was about looking in
the mirror and as captains need to get on guys,
help people accountable. It doesn't sound like they're fracturing, but

(02:21:56):
it certainly sounds like they're have legitimate reasons for concern
about everything that's coaching Daniel Hunter. You probably saw the
interview he did with us. He kept saying that we
got a game plan better, and that sounds like an
indictment of coaching staff. You know, it's a tough situation
right now for the Texans.

Speaker 8 (02:22:16):
Yeah, and you know Aaron with CJ, I want to
take it a step further. Is he almost in a
position to fail because we talked about it a little
bit earlier. Where's the motions? Where are the check with me?
Where is the ability to be able to check out
of a play? Like it just kind of seems like, right,
Bobby Slowick, Hey, here's your play call love it or not.

Speaker 7 (02:22:35):
This is what we're doing.

Speaker 13 (02:22:38):
There's no red browns, there's no pick plays, there's none
of the things that other offenses have been doing. It's
basically like a very light version of the West Coast
offense that the forty nine ers run. But it's like
almost like the elementary version. It's not the advanced version.
Whether that's because they don't know if they have the

(02:22:59):
personnel the players to handle it. You see, lesser talented
teams sometimes scheme their way into things, and you know
you're talking about being creative. Look what Ben Johnson done
on that play against the Bears just a week ago.
Guys pretend to fall down and they throw it. I mean,
just you got to come up with stuff. That's what
play callers do. You got to innovate. You gotta be creative,

(02:23:21):
and right now, that's not what they're doing. And you know,
for Bobby Flowick, he's got to do a better job.
And he's been very accountable all year. That's not the issue.
It's just a matter of actually just getting the job done.

Speaker 7 (02:23:34):
Not well.

Speaker 13 (02:23:35):
You know, this guy's trying or things like that. That's
not good enough. It's a bottom line business, and bottom
line they're not getting it done. And that's why fans
are upset. That's why people are booing. That's why you're
seeing what you're seeing on social media. I don't know
if CJ. Straft has a lot of opportunity to succeed
other than you know, if Nico Collins is wide open.
You know, I thought it was good that they threw

(02:23:57):
the job metch you the third a little bit, But
where's the running game? You know, there's no holes. There's
a lot of tackle breaking and some of the play
calling in it's questionable for them to blow that red
zone opportunity. I thought that's kind of when the game
really turned, because right after that, the Ravens march ninety
nine yards against you, and then the ball game's over.

(02:24:19):
It's not ten two at seventeen to two, and it's all,
she wrote.

Speaker 5 (02:24:23):
Aaron Wilson, joining us here on the Shawn Stalisbury Show,
covers the NFL and the Texans for KPRC too. You
can also find his articles on our website Sports seven
ninety dot com and on Twitter at Aaron Wilson Underscore NFL. Aaron,
I want to talk about Bobby Slowick. One thing that
I know Sean and I have discussed here on the
show is at the end of the day, the players
have to execute their place. And I want to piggyback

(02:24:44):
a little bit off of what Dan said.

Speaker 6 (02:24:45):
With st J.

Speaker 5 (02:24:46):
Stroud being put in position to succeed, Bobby Slok's offense
has basically been inconsistent all season long. So where does
the accountability factor? I know you said he holds himself accountable,
but yet we still see the same inconsistent offense and
now the running game is nonexistent.

Speaker 6 (02:25:06):
So what needs to change?

Speaker 5 (02:25:07):
As we head into the last game of the season
and then obviously the playoff bound to play in the
wild card round. What needs to change though, because it's
the same thing every single week.

Speaker 13 (02:25:18):
Right, You got to think that if you just keep
doing the same thing without success, that's really the definition
of stupidity. You have to change when something's not working,
I think in any walk of life or industry. Right, So,
an offensive coordinator job is to adapt to the defense
and to use the personnel the best you can to

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try to get yourself some points in first downs. And
we're just not seeing any real creativity or willingness to change.
It's repetitive. Yeah, they were doing screens well for a
little while, but the last couple of weeks it didn't work.
So okay, you can't stick with it when it's not working.
You got to try the things. If the running name

(02:26:00):
is broken, you maybe get some other people in there.
I think you have to animate, you gotta make changes.
But you know, I remember, I think it was Nickasterio
or right before the bye week, and he expressed support
for Bobby Slock. I don't think there's been a question
lately asked of Dimko Ryans about Bobby, But I would
imagine they'd be steadfast support. They's to share an office

(02:26:22):
together in San Francisco. Ultimately, when this thing is done,
and we'll have a lot more conversations about it. But
I don't think we're gonna be talking about, oh, yeah,
they rallied the last two games, or they made a run.
If it stays like this Yet, the question, you know,
are you coming back with Bobby Sloweck? Is he going
to be your office coordinator next year? Does he have

(02:26:44):
the same level responsibilities if he does come back, are
you looking at other people and or do you chalk
it all up and say, oh, it's all the offensive line.
I don't think that you can be able to be
that simple about it. I think is the problem are
a mixture of the play calling and the personnel. It's

(02:27:04):
not on one thing or one man. But yeah, ultimately
he's gonna be held accountable for the lack of success.
Do I anticipated change? Not necessarily. I could see them
run the back.

Speaker 8 (02:27:21):
Yeah, I mean, and that was going to be where
I was going to go with this. I mean, I
know it's a little card ahead of the horse. You've
still got a game this week, You've still got at
least one playoff game. But eventually there is going to
be the after the season press conference, and you gotta
believe Aaron, that's got to be. The first question is
what's Bobby's status? But not only him, I mean, what
other changes could you see after the season this team
making to their coaching staff.

Speaker 13 (02:27:44):
I think there'll be a new offensive line coach. In
fact that I'm very sure of that it wouldn't be
necessarily have to be a firing. You know, there could
be a retirement Fergus Shausser that could be in the offing,
that something that was on the table before the season.
You could see other changes, you know, I don't know
of this. I don't want to name a bunch of

(02:28:04):
other names. But that's just why I'm I'm very sure of.
I don't anticipate like widespread changes of the staff. I
also to anticipate someone getting a head coaching job from
the base of the season. So I know the Bobby
was popular last year, got a lot of head coaching interviews,
doesn't necessarily mean that has to happened again this year.

(02:28:25):
Maybe he's getting some interviews, maybe not. But I just
don't see a lot of change. I mean, I think
geradd Johnson he got off of scordin interviews last year,
he'll be and probably involved in those discussions quarterbacks coach,
and a lot of people say why can't he beat
off Squorter? The only reasons somebody's not offic coordinator is
because they don't have a play caling background. The only

(02:28:46):
guy on staff that has a big play calling background
is the laser. And this would be the best quarterback
he ever got to work with if he was promoted internally.
Should there be some sort of change and I would
rule out that, but you know, just speculating. You know,
we don't know what they're going to do. I don't
think they've decided what they're going to do, so you
don't know. For the car too far before the horse.

(02:29:08):
But those questions will be asked, and I think there
will be changes. There's obviously gonna be changes to the
offensive line. I think that there will be pretty widespread
across that line. They try to improve the blocking. Unless
you have an offensive line that can protect and run block,
you're not going anywhere this offensive league. Now, you can't

(02:29:29):
just win on defense, and normally they're a good defense,
but that's not enough to win football games, it's not
going to work. You have to be able to outscore
the other team. You got to be a really dynamic offense,
and they're not. And I think they're going to have
to make some tough decisions a wide receiver. So you know,
Tank noil horrific injury as they're reported, lots of extra

(02:29:51):
ligaments torn in addition STACL and miniscus damage too. So
you know, what are you doing? Are you bring back
Stefon Diggs being that his ACL is back and he
can play, you know, sometime in September, October or November,
I don't know. I think they're gonna have to draft
a receiver. They gonna do a lot of things. This
team is not even close to Super Bowl contention, and

(02:30:16):
they're still the only team in the South that's never
even reached acy championship game. They can't just be satisfied
winning a week division me the Kings of the South.

Speaker 5 (02:30:27):
Aaron Wilson, NFL Insider, Texans Insider for KPRC to a
couple more minutes with Aaron joining us here on the
Seawn Salisbury Show. I want to stay with the offensive
line real quick, Aaron, you were with Titus Howard yesterday
after the game, we played the audio from your interview
with him, and then you look across the locker room.

Speaker 3 (02:30:47):
CJ.

Speaker 5 (02:30:48):
Stroud admitted it was probably the worst game of his career.
He said that his poor play defeated the team's energy.
Will Anderson Junior was very very transparent about that type
of play, didn't you. Hunter talked about game planning, Demiko
said it was, you know, the simple message was check
yourself right. And then you go to Titus Howard who's

(02:31:08):
on the offensive line, and he says, oh, I'm not worried,
I'm not concerned.

Speaker 6 (02:31:14):
I should take it back. He said, I'm not concerned.
Are you buying that?

Speaker 13 (02:31:20):
I think he's being honest, that he's being sincere, which
you see with a lot of the guys when it
comes to the answers, and so some if you notice
some guys like Derrick Stingles, universe is saying the execute execution,
So when the coach says something after the game, it's parrotied.

(02:31:42):
And that doesn't mean they still listen to to Nika Lyons,
that's great, but it doesn't always lead to the most
you know, open of exchanges with Titus. I just think
they never want to portray panic. You guys saw it
wasn't on camera interview I did with Larry Kunsole and
he says they have to move on. It's a bad

(02:32:03):
l I think a lot of guys they compartmentalize what.
He doesn't want to dwell on it. That was an
LT's comment. It was very similar to what Titus know.
His sentiments and they don't like to dwell on anything.
But you got to learn from games too, and you
know it's details. They bring that up too within those conversations.

(02:32:25):
So I don't think in a lack of accountability. I
take it more as you know, not wanting to be negative.
Maybe kick yourself when you're down. I know fans prefer
to hear a media players saying, you know, more of
a bold statement like what you heard from others. But
everybody has their.

Speaker 7 (02:32:43):
Own media style.

Speaker 13 (02:32:44):
Nobody in the offensive line generally. I don't see a
lot of spicy quotes on offensive line around the NFL.
So I mean this is kind of the personality of
an offensive lineman, a d lineman like well Anderson. Yeah,
a little more aggressive, a little more feisty about it.
Doesn't make you know. The answer is ridiculous. It's just
it's not what people want to hear. They want to

(02:33:05):
hear like unacceptable, we will fix it. If you said that,
and it's not applied, how is it any different. I
guess it's just more basically a public relations what answer
would you prefer to hear an effort CJ say this.
I could tell you that we'll be fine or going
to be okay? Do I think that they were dealing

(02:33:25):
with the tank delting a little bit and of course
playing within you know, all these games and a short span,
even though that's what everybody else had to do. Sure,
I think that's a little bit of factor. I mean,
why was the energy so bad? All these guys kept
saying bad energy lethargic. I mean we had two or
four players to say that, so I've got to I mean,
they're the ones out there, you know, feeling that energy

(02:33:46):
or not feeling it, and that's not good too. I
mean it's the coaching staff's job and the player's job
to have high energy and be ready. Why you wouldn't
be despite the tiredness and being sad about Tank excited?
This game was an international audience. It's on Netflix. You
got Beyonce there. This team beat you in the playoffs.
That's another thing I didn't hear a lot of you

(02:34:08):
know that they kind of owed the Ravens one after
what happened in the playoffs, and they just they get
beat even worse than the playoff game. Just uncompetitive. I
think it is time. I mean, like Sainika Ryans alluded to,
it is time to everybody to check yourself. And you

(02:34:29):
know they've got time to do it kind a long
time till the Titans game, which could be like a
preseason game. Guys, there's not probably gonna be a lot
at stake, if anything other than rest or maybe trying
to improve your play. I think that guys are going
to be in and out of there, especially key players
like a CJ. Stroud. Why would you risk him playing
out there against the Titans.

Speaker 6 (02:34:51):
Yeah, you don't, Aaron.

Speaker 5 (02:34:52):
We appreciate the coverage, We appreciate you joining us every
single week. Thank you, and well we'll give you a
shout next week manager your weekend the Saturday Sunday games.

Speaker 6 (02:35:01):
Thanks again, Thanks guys with me time.

Speaker 5 (02:35:04):
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Speaker 2 (02:36:22):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 5 (02:36:25):
Aaron Wilson and what he said about the Texans, Uh,
they just flat out sucked yesterday and they should be embarrassed.

Speaker 8 (02:36:32):
Yeah, there was that, and uh, you know, I think
we were kind of hoping for him to say, yeah,
Bobby slow it probably is uh not gonna be around
next season.

Speaker 7 (02:36:42):
But we did not get that. He got the the
the dreaded for some run it back for Bobby slowan.

Speaker 6 (02:36:49):
Now we're not due. I hope they don't do it.

Speaker 7 (02:36:51):
Yeah, I don't really see how you can.

Speaker 6 (02:36:55):
I don't either.

Speaker 8 (02:36:56):
I mean, if you're gonna try to sell that and
try to tell your quarterback, hey, things are gonna be better,
trust me, you know, we we'll actually do is. Aaron
pointed out the rub routes, some motioning, you know, things
that other teams do that. You don't just have the
same film for teams out there every single week. You
almost wonder if there's defensive coaches out there that are like,
they're really doing the same things we just saw in film.

Speaker 5 (02:37:17):
Yeah, it's the definition of madness. Insanity, I should say,
in sanity, not mad. It's all the same, it's all relative.

Speaker 8 (02:37:25):
You know, you sanity are successful in this league and change.
You've got to be innovative and creative, and they're neither
of those things.

Speaker 7 (02:37:32):
So there you go. More of it. Twenty twenty five.
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (02:37:36):
Let's go, baby, go, let's go. Got I think there's
a game tonight Seahawks are playing. I think the Bears.

Speaker 7 (02:37:43):
The Bears, go see.

Speaker 6 (02:37:46):
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Speaker 7 (02:37:50):
Saturday triple header too, Yeah, Sunday.

Speaker 6 (02:37:53):
So why you know, you know the thing? Yeah, you
know the thing. It kind of bothers me.

Speaker 5 (02:37:57):
Dano is Uh, why the hell the college football off
games aren't this weekend? Why they got to wait until
next midweek? I know it's New Year's Eve. You want
the New Year's Day bowl games, but put him on
this weekend.

Speaker 6 (02:38:06):
Damn it.

Speaker 7 (02:38:07):
It would have been fun.

Speaker 8 (02:38:09):
But I mean, you know, it's a good time to
uh use those gift receipts and those gift cards you
got for Christmas.

Speaker 5 (02:38:14):
Yeah, there you go that I got a couple of
gift cards. Head over to Dick's Sporting Goods, you know.
Buth Okay, Dan, appreciate you. Appreciate you sitting in with
us as always. Man, it's always been fun.

Speaker 7 (02:38:29):
You're the best, Tripley the best as well, Buddy.

Speaker 6 (02:38:31):
Appreciate you, my man. That's gonna do it.

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