Astros Trade Ryan Pressly, Texans Fire OC Bobby Slowik, Rockets Beat Cavs, UH Wins In 2OT, AFC & NFC Conference Games Results

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Say, okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury, The usc Truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Big show this morning, fellas. Sean Tripoli, what's happening? What' set?

Speaker 5 (00:26):
Oh good man, what a weekend? That's that Cougar victory
over Kansas was something, man, two overtimes, Man, Holy hell,
have me on the edge of my seat. Man, they
were they were I had to fight their way and
it's a hard place to win against a really good team.
And they're finally getting right and they they've started to

(00:46):
ramp up their game, man, and they are on a
roll right now. They are a dangerous team as always,
but can't even they're they're gonna get more dangerous after that.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
A little bit of a slow.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Uh, you know start for them, you find their way,
but they they are kicking ass now and they're proven
that they can win high scoring affairs and games where
you got to slog around in the mud, meaning in
the fifties type games in the sixties and in the
eighties and nineties. And if you can do both those,

(01:17):
because there'll be plenty of games that you've got to
survive and play just survival basketball and play defense and
try to knock down a few shots and do it.
And then they also in this one you can run
up and down the floor and beat a high scoring
team as well. So yeah, man, I h this is
that time of year now that football is about done
and we can focus on some college hoops and baseball

(01:38):
spring training. But impressive win for Kelvin to go on
the road and play them. I think they come back
in March here if i'd nothing they do.

Speaker 7 (01:44):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, that's two tournament teams, both the legitimate national title teams,
and to go in their building and wins not an easy.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Task, no, And the way that they had to do
it to get into two overtime, steal an inbound pass
and then knock down a three to tie it in
the first overtime, and then Emmanuel Show knocking Dowun a
couple threes, stealing a ball from his ass quite literally
from his rear end.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
I mean, dude, they did it.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
They did it in every way possible, and they did
not shoot well from the free throw line. They were
like forty eight percent at one point. I think they
got up to fifty seven percent to finish the game.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
That's gonna have to change.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Oh yeah, if you're in the tournament, if you're gonna
beat teams that are as good as you and beat
those teams, you know, the Auburns of the world and
even the Kansas is moving forward, you're gonna have to
You're gonna have to knock down free throws. And he
knows that, Yeah, coach Sampson does so. But that's impressive.
That's an impressive win. And you know it was. Uh,
we got some hell of five basketball schedule coming up

(02:38):
here soon for not just here but the rest of
college hoops. As we you know, hell, were a month
away from March Madness. It's a little more than a
month away from it, five weeks or something. So yeah,
it's gonna be a blast. Yeah, you took a win
in another big win. These Houston Rockets improved a thirty
and fourteen. They took down the Cleveland Cavaliers in their
building one thirty five, one thirty run. Uh, one thirty five,

(02:59):
one thirty one. Amend Thompson with a triple double, his
second of his career. And uh, you know we always
talk about coaching Sean right, you just think about the
coaches that are in this city. We got to visit
with joa spot at FanFest on Saturday. Cool was the
other side of the pillow, as our guy, Stewart Scott says,
Demico Ryans, Jo Aspota, Kelvin Sampson, e may Udoka emy Udoka.

(03:21):
After that big win against the Calves, Calves are the
second best team in the East right now, he said
he was disappointed in the lack of defensive effort for
these Rockets and they won.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
And you've heard Kelvin Sampson for the Kooks say the
same thing. I think the state of the city when
it comes to head coaches is in good shape.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Pretty good shape.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, I would say, understatement, no doubt, well, good coach.
I'll always find ways to correct. Be easy if you're
Kelvin Sampson's team and you went on the road and
beat Kansas, and it'd be easy. If you're the Rockets
and you've beat Cleveland twice right in a matter of
what four days, two days, whatever it is, who's had

(04:04):
a monster start to their season, it'd be easy to patch.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yourself on the back and say we're really good man.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
It would both of those coaches realize that just as
quickly as you won one, you go and you get
after that all that emotion, you know, you get beat
by a bad NBA team, and then for Calvin coach Sampson,
you get beat, you know, by a team that's not
supposed to beat you in your conference.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
If you get a little too comfortable, and.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I've always believed much easier to reach players and be
critical when you're winning. After a win, you can really
really dive into a like you can be critical of
them because they're feeling good about their performance. So you
can get say yeah, man, you hit twenty, but men,
you could add thirty, make a few free throws, a
play some decent so there's messages to be sent. It's

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hard to reach players, especially young players who have an
attention span of about three seconds, to whet when they
get beat or you're not playing well. Then to go
in and criticize and get after him. You know what,
you take it personal, you're offended by it. You're offended
far less on constructive criticism when you're winning and after
a good win, then if you're losing, so perfect timing

(05:12):
by coach Udoka to say great, we haven't a right
because they haven't won anything. They've played really well in
the regular season, they haven't won anything yet. And it
was interesting too. I'm listening to Sakwon Barkley talked about
it in his dream, his dreams. He always a super Bowl,
super Bowl, super Bowl. When they asked him by yeah,
we're going to celebrate, he goes, but you know what
I didn't. My dream wasn't to get to the super Bowl.

(05:32):
My dream was to win it. And so a good
message to his team, who completely dismantled Washington yesterday.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
What a performed about Philly Man.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
But to stay the course leadership of I will celebrate
for a day. We gotta get back to work, even
though it's two weeks away. There's work to do, and
getting there's one thing, but getting there. Nobody ever remembers
the runner up. They always remember team to one. So
great message. But yeah, the head coaching position in this
city is and you Willie Fritz is good football coaches. Yeah,

(06:03):
he's going to turn it around and already started doing that.
So yeah, pretty stockpiled with guys who I don't think
get comfortable with winning, which leads us at some point
today to Demico Ryans two back to back playoff appearances
and a coaching shakeup. We knew, you knew the offensive
line was changing. Yeah, And I was a little not shocked,

(06:25):
a little surprised that they made the decision. I thought
that I thought they would give slogan another year. But
in remember I always say, we don't know what goes
on that building. Was it constant philosophical difference? It was
just you guys digress. So I mean you regressed so
much as I digress. You regressed so much or in
their mind that it went the wrong way and you
had to fix it immediately.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
I don't like to let things faster.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
So all that back to the head coaching taking responsibility, accountability,
and it appears to me that all the head coaches
in this city have that for their teams, and it's important.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, there is no doubt man.

Speaker 7 (06:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
And of course, just like we drew it up, it's
the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Headed to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Said I wanted both dogs, and I said, well, we'll
probably be talking on Monday. There's gonna be Kansas City
in Philadelphia. Philadelphia was a no brainer. They dismantled him.
I was shocked that they beat him up that bad,
I really was. I mean, I understand whenning I mean
Vegas Adam what six point favorites, but they hung.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
Fifty plus on them. That's hard to do.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
If Philadelphia did anything they want, And to Jalen Hurts,
if you were wondering if he could throw it yesterday,
he threw the ball efficiently and accurately, and they made
some phenomenal plays in their defense is really good. And
on the other side, Kansas City just makes one more
play than everybody else, or two more plays.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
They just do. They just the third and four.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
They don't come up short, fourth and three, they don't
come up short. They just I thought the referees missed
a few calls, but in truth, nobody takes advantage of
either a referee call or your mistake as a team
that than them. Yeah, best best situational football team we've
had in a lot of years. And you can say

(08:06):
what you want about Mahomes, the guys just he's a
phenomenal playmaker.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
He really is.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I didn't have him carrying the football eleven times for
forty three yards in my Bengo card.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
No, you had eleven for seventy five yards for the
other guy if that would have been the case for
Josh Allen. It was a brilliant play calling again by
Andy Reid and their command.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Of where to throw the football offensively.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
And you cannot take one look at the fourth down, Spagnola.
A totally big game, dude, he will and you can't
turn it in both teams. You can't turn the ball
over either team. And beat on't went on the road
meeting the two road teams, Yes, and Washington, lad you
know turned it over a few times too, Spagnola, I

(08:49):
mean it is And I don't know how Dalton was
a Dalton can kid. You can't drop You can't drop
that ball football. I know it was thrown up out
of nowhere, but you can't drop it.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
I mean it was. It wasn't like a diving catch
you by your fingertips. It hit him in the forum.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
I hate to say it, but you do have to
make that catch. Yeah, because he bailed you out to
even get it to you. So really was to throw away.
He just didn't give a hang on it because of
the pressure. But did you see all game long they
pressure and inside safeties linebackers, and what do they do
Safety's over the top about fifteen yards deep, and they
bring a corner cat for the first time, they blitz

(09:21):
off the corner. The untouched guy didn't see, and the
safety over the top came downhill and replaced the corner
and they ran a corner that you usually corner blitzer
are usually reserved for. It's the nickel blitz out of
the slot like Rondez Barber used to do, or Rod
Woodson when you were in four Wives. They'd come off
the slot because of the hash marks are wider and

(09:46):
you're into the boundary and the hashmarks in high school
and college. The college you have what you call a
boundary corner. The corner who lines up into the boundary
into the short side of the field, that's his strength.
A little more physical you deal the run. So that's
when you get corner blitzes off. The outside receiver is
in college because the hash marks, it's shorter to go well,

(10:09):
they're in the middle of field. Boom, they bring a
corner blitz. All this time you're not even preparing for it.
Spagnola on fourth down Bam hits them with the corner blitz,
forces him making off bounds throw and there you are
and it takes balls because if you see it and
you throw a hitch outside and the safety coming down
at a bad angle, I mean you're coming at a
full force nd because he's got to cover up the

(10:30):
corner of the blitz. If you miss him, that's a
hitch catch and you throw aside, he just and catch it.
If that safety takes the wrong angle, that you'll score.
There's nobody else zero, everybody's coming boom. Safety is covering
corner cat blitz and and they got him. And that's
Spagnola's that's the advantage of all the stuff that goes

(10:50):
on the biggest, the biggest, big play guy Spagnola's ability
to call pressure and they're relentless. You see how often
they kept pluck coming and coming and come and in coming.
Eventually it's fatigue on you mentally. And they got him
with what you hadn't seen the whole game. A corner
blitz off the wide out, not off the slot.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Impressive And even in that same play, the ability of
Josh Allen to avoid that blitz and to still get
the football and giving his wide receiver a tight end
a chance to catch the football is insane.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
Man.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
He made a couple he made a couple of throws
into windows. Yeah, there's no stronger arm in the league,
I can tell you that.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
But he has really elevated his play.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
And unfortunately they just couldn't get enough stops on defense,
and you know, a few breaks went against them. And
when you're in Kansas City and playing against Mahomes Andy Reid,
you just you damn near have to play as perfect
a game as there's and they don't have to, and
they still hang around. But it was a pretty man
and Kelsey didn't dominate the game.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
No, Mahomes did. Yeah he did. He played.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
He just he was in complete control with his legs,
his arms, his decision making. And when you do that
and you're the team Philadelphia is gonna have to play
like they did yesterday to be in the game, it's crazy.
I mean, it's well, it's gonna be under three points favorite.
I guarantee Kancity wud be a small favorite.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
They come out as it came out. I want to say,
I thought it was two and a half already.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
I thought I was going to say it's a field
goal or less. I know they came out, but I
haven't I didn't even look this morning at what the
odds were, but it is Kansas City by two. There
you go, and so it's it's one of those. But
if they have the ball at the end, there's they
always seem to find good things happening. And you can't
get denied on fourth downs. And I thought, I mean,
I'll reserve judgment. But to me it looked like the

(12:37):
initial thrust on that fourth in the quarterbacks think I
thought he got the first.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I thought he got the first down too. I don't understand, man,
Jeames Sterator and yeah, and so did Jim Nantz, Tony Romo,
like everybody in America.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
I just don't understand, Sean.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
And maybe like you have one line judge on the
chief side, one line judge on the on the Buffalo
bill side. The Buffalo bill side spotted him past the
first down mark or the other guy spotted him a
yard shy, So it's like, how are you both that off?
And then you go to review and then it's come on, man,
it was just goes back into we got all the

(13:14):
technology in the world and then and this is how
we're still spotting football.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Still can't take away from how good Kansas City is.
But and their defense gets after you, but it and
it always there's a they got a nice rapids foot,
it falls their way a lot.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
And then there's the catch Xavier Worthy, how can you
even give possession to either one of those guys if
you go and review it, if you're a ref and
you are looking into that monitor, there is no way
in hell that you can say that either one of
those guys had possessions, so at that point, incomplete and
then accept the penalty for the Kansas City Chiefs move

(13:51):
them up because of the holding or whatever it was?

Speaker 6 (13:53):
What was it? Call on the field?

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Though?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, I get it, and you can't overturn it? They can, Yeah,
well they can't, right they can. It's it was a
completion from Worthy. How the hell they even said it
was a completion unw Worthy is beyond me.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Would they have changed it if it would have been
called incomplete on the field, would they have turned it around.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
And said that's a catch.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, probably, there's not enough visual evidence to overturn it.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Bottom line is you're not gonna get into the apologies
don't matter. You got you got beat, and now you're
going to go to a super Bowl and they're gonna
have to wait another whole year to have an opportunity
to do it again.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
San Kansasit is pretty good in the postseason. Yeah, they're
still doubt.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
Man.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
They just find ways, man, Yep, they just find ways.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
All right.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
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to get into. They traded Ryan Presley. Does that open
the door even more for a reunion with Alex Bregman.
The Texans fired their offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick, and of
course those Rockets are playing really good basketball. Tons to
get into next on sports Stock seven ninety.

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Speaker 3 (15:26):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Seven one, three, two, two five, seven nineties A number
to join Early call this morning, Jason, Good morning.

Speaker 10 (15:36):
I just feel so bad for the Buffalo fans. I
have a lot of friends that are Buffalo fans. I
have some family members that live up there in Buffalo,
and it's just crazy. I mean, you know, we can
blame it on the officials, we can blame it on whatever.
But I go back to that third down play where

(15:57):
he clearly gets the burst down and McDermott does not
challenge the spot of the football because the knee was
never down. And then you go and you look at
the fourth down conversion where the Chiefs are clearly lined
up in the neutral zone which should have been a
neutral zone in fraction. But I mean, this is about

(16:18):
the Bills. I mean, the Bills had opportunities. I feel
like they shot themselves in a few times, but clearly,
I mean, you're gonna have people blaming the officials. I mean,
when you turn on the TV, that's all you hear
about is the officials, the officiating, And I mean this,

(16:39):
I mean, I don't know what else can be done,
but I think the Bills kind of I think McDermott
should have challenged that spot, and had he challenge that spot,
that fourth and one would have never been. It would
have never been it had been a first down to
begin with. So I just feel bad for the Bills stands.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
I really do think it's a call Jason.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, they've been laboring over this for a long time
then and they just couldn't, unfortunately, get it done. I
love that fan base as well, and I I feel
bad for him as well, But I know Kansas City
doesn't feel too bad for him.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
You know, they they're.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
Glad they won.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
But yeah, it just goes back to what do you
deserve a super Bowl? You deserve super Bowl when you
win it, right, that's when you deserve it. But it's
a great call by him. It's there's I got buddies
too that are from there in big time Buffalo Bill's fans,
and it's it's gut wrenching, but it's gut wrenching for
a lot of fan bases and Kansas City's making it

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miserable and a lot of people to go win a
super Bowl. And I mean, they're in great position. There's
no reason to think they won't go win this game.
If they can at least make sure Saquon Barkley doesn't
dominate the whole game offensively.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
You're gonna have to.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
That's gonna be a big plan for Spagnola. But yeah, man,
it's uh, you're watching it. You just as it gets going,
it gets going, It's like, are they gonna really pull
this out again? I'll be damned, be damned. Of course
they pulled it out. Yes, of course, of course they did.
Of course they did. You know, it's it's yeah, this

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is this is how I felt growing up. Sucks against
the damn Patriots. This is exactly how I felt.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
See.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
It really comes down to like a boxing match. If
it's close, the reigning champion is gonna get the love.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, it's the same thing here.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
If it's close, you've got to knock out the champ
to get to the you just do. Yeah, you can't
give a standing eight count and think that's enough. You're
gonna have to knock him out because if you leave
it for chance in a judge's decision, that's not one
you're gonna win.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
No, And I just.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
You got to knock him out. Iladelphia, they're gonna have
to knock the Chiefs out where it's like a fourteen
point lead with a buck forty five to go, and
you got the ball.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
You got to knock him out.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
If you let him hang around and stick and move
and do all that, that will not be enough. It's
never enough to be Kansas City, at least under this regime.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
No, and Travis Kelce gets away with some of the
most blatant taunting penalties of all time.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
Of course he does.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Dude, instigated the hell out of it in the end
zone after the Patrick Mahomes run, just taunting, taunting, taunting,
and then one of the other guys comes up, has
had enough of it, and then he literally flops like
a bitch and.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
The boom, there's a flag.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Like, dude, come on, just like he planned it. I know,
come on, man, just like he exploiting the hell out
of the rules. I mean, you know what, like I probably.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Do it too, But damn, oh nobody, nobody, nobody milks
rules better than those two my I mean that franchise.
I mean, you know, I don't mean milk it. Like
I said, if you're gonna milk, I would too. And
here's Kelsey. I mean, although I'm not a fly, I would.
I don't approach my game like he does, but he
that that's what he drives him. Right, I'm so tired.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
And Taylor Swift on a broadcast, why did they Travis
Kelcey didn't do a damn but it barely did anything
in that game, and for whatever reason, my home scores boom.
They paying over to Taylor Swift tugging Travis Kelsey's mom.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Because of what you're doing right now.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
About talking about it's right, it works. They they there's
a method and they're they're the villain in the league now. Yeah,
I hate him. I hate him from I hate him.
And the one person you'll never hate is Andy Reid
And that's why I wanted to Right, there's such a
he just doesn't there's nothing to hate about it, right there,
other than the fact the guy's really good. Yeah, it's uh,

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it's maddening. Yeah, it is Madden fatigue. But we are
in the midst of something pretty speddal. This is think
about the seventies Steelers, the Cowboys, the Raiders back in
the day with Stabler, the Cowboys with the Akman group,
the forty nine Ers with Montana and Bill Walsh, you
go go through the Bears. They won one of those

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super Bowls, not even two with that group on that defense,
the eighty five Bears defense. Think about all that. And
the Kansas City Chiefs are sitting right now with a
key to the door to be the first team in
NFL history.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
That is three peted. And there's some.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Good teams along the way, my man, I mean some
dominant teams along the way, the Patriots, even the Patriots,
I can't leave them out. All that domination and they
never won three in a row. Oh yeah, we are witnessing.
It's irritating, I'm sure, but we're witnessing pretty special stuff
with this Kansas City Chiefs. And in truth, they just

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on offense. They've got a bunch of players worthy star
He's got star power and his speed is sick. But
Mahomes and Kelsey and they got the linemen. But and
they do you ever notice that if you watch tape
between the difference in this one and in the line
we had this past year, see how he's see how
quickly back step, so you see how how they understand

(22:04):
how to maneuver blitzes and deal with them and pressure
and the guy's blocking. You may get beat once in
a while, but at least you're blocking the right guy.
They sift through it. Even Buffalo at times blitzers would come.
They do it, and you know, Mahomes is yelling out, hey,
strong safety's come, and strong safety's coming. All a sudden boom,
guy steps up and blocks them, allows them to side
step into his saying, they at least they know who

(22:25):
to get and how to get him. They blocked the
right guy. What a novel concept. Sure gives you a chance.
So I mean it is you bl mean you're not
getting a free runner in the a gap on a
Kansas City Chiefs team because they're so prepared for the
guy's at least gonna punch and give his quarterback a chance.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Big, you just watch it.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
There's a huge difference and in identity who you're supposed
to block. And yeah, it's maddening, but I'm going to
tell you something, man, they just they don't beat themselves.
They do not beat you know, they haven't do you
know that they haven't turn over was it they hadn't
turned it over going into this game. Yeah, since mid November.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, coming on the Fumblehomes, yeah yeah, since mid November.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah, they don't turn them all over.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Well and hnce, where are they? Fifteen wins on a
team that you look at they don't have twenty superstars
on offense, and here they are. And do you ever
notice that they can play you in an eight of
seventeen to fourteen game and then all of a sudden,
game creeps into the thirties and they seem to be
the one on with a few more thirty points than
you do.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Yeah, I hate them. From a fan perspective, I hate them.
I get it.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
But except for Andy Reid, they're going to get tired
of parades in that stadem and Philadelphia has obviously got
a plan and the Philadelphia is good enough to beat them.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah, but Hurts.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Is gonna have to give you the same stuff he
gave you yesterday because this Kansas City defense, ain't you're
not scoring fifty five?

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, well, I hope save one Barkley runs for like
six million yards on him.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah one, that they're not getting fifty five points, So well,
that is't gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Fifty five points in an NFT championship game is insane.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Oh yeah, it's insane during a preseason game.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
God.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Yeah, it is absolutely.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Against the team who's played such great football all year
long in Washington, and I have a hunch they'll be back.
But they were outmatched in every way, shape and form
in that game.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
There's yeah, dude, they were dominating. Yep, all right, seven
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Speaker 3 (25:30):
For the Shawn Salisbury Show continued Leon, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
Morning guys.

Speaker 11 (25:39):
Sean.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
How many teams did you play for in your in
your career?

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Uh, let's see for full season?

Speaker 5 (25:45):
What four?

Speaker 10 (25:47):
Four?

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Okay? Mostly my career was in Minnesota, so that's what
I thought.

Speaker 12 (25:52):
And during your time in Minnesota, didn't you wouldn't you
consider your popularity probably there at Minnesota era other three?

Speaker 6 (26:00):
So when I say my, what my, what's better?

Speaker 12 (26:03):
Your your popularity as far as your team concept, you know,
the team's popularity was better when you played in Minnesota
compared to the other three.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, in Minnesota, that was I mean, we were pretty
my rookie year in Seattle with Steve Largent and Kenny
Easily and play, we were pretty freaking good and we
were pretty popular. But yeah, Minnesota, we had five Hall
of Famers on one team, right, yeah, and we had
every year, yes, yes, without out And my.

Speaker 12 (26:26):
Point is, Gorge, I'm as done it and fourth were
concerned the NC championship teams of Senne and Sendy nine
with the studio that was the super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
We could care less boy, anything else.

Speaker 12 (26:37):
And you know we got blown out in Sey thirty
five to three or something like that, and next year
was less than ten points.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
But because of the.

Speaker 12 (26:48):
Popularity the students, we see that we couldn't get a break.
And you said it earlier about you know, you gotta
kick the teams. You gotta kick the chiefs off the
thrown until you like the Laurel Bumfields. You say we
got kick that s ob n and that happens is
not gonna change. And I was trying to towel that
in about your popularity.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Of the team.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
Kansasy is popular.

Speaker 12 (27:06):
Yeah, I can't stand either. And in Mahomes with the
Texas text the Texas guy, I get it, but it's
just some of the answers I just can't stand it.
Just driving me crazy because Mike Relfroz catch is sending
and as steel hawsty forty years later, I.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Bet it does. My man.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
I appreciate the call. There's no doubt it does. There
is no doubt it, and it will until something changes,
and it may may haunt you know, that may be
the case forever regardless. But imagine, if you're Josh Allen,
you got to go back to work and do it again.
And He's right, a lot of people. The fatigue of
Kansas City wears on him, and it's heightened because of

(27:44):
the Star thinking about Mahomes and his gig, Kelsey and
his stuff and adding tru I mean everything, and they
just add to the irritation. Of course, yeah, yeah, they
just but you know what, and then now and the
fact that they win every year, it just it's like
if it becomes fingernails on a chalkboard for some. It's

(28:06):
not as blatant for me because the character of the
head coach and the guy he is, I've always loved him.
I have a hard time disliking them because of him.
But it's easy to compartmentalize with them because they will
irritate the hell out of him.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
They will irritate the hell out of you, but they
do it right on the field. Great. They're the best
situational football team we've seen in a long time.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
Man.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yeah, they really are. The ability to just make some
things happen.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
And they did a little extra help, which a bad thing,
I guess if you're if you're there, ever drives us crazy.
But they're really they don't need the extra help. But
they just they's situational football. They just seem to do
it a little better than everybody else.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Oh hi, there's only one man that can that can
beat this Kansas City Chiefs team, and that's Joe Burrow.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
So hey, thinking about this though, if you're thinking about
head coaches and you're in waiting, I was thinking, two
of the best seasons you'll ever see from a quarterback
have been under Joe Brady's watch, Yeah, Josh Burrow at
LSU Yeah, and then Josh Allen's season this year. I mean,
if you want offense fixed, it feels like with good personnelity,

(29:16):
he knows how to take a quarterback and maximize him.
So impressive. I don't know what his next step is,
if he's ready to be a head coach or not,
but I can tell you this. They both these guys
and him and Andy Reid dial up some really really
good plays last night, And who'd have thought Mahomes from
eleven yards or fourteen yards out. Was going to pull
it out and run it to the end zone on

(29:37):
an RPL, which is usually reserved for the guy who
wears a seventeen on the other team, or Lamar Jackson
or one of those guys. Phenomenal. They just they're not
afraid to take chances in smart situations, you know what
I mean? And that is the chance. And listen, they
don't quarterback sneak with Mahomes anymore. They don't want to
get he like he did quarterback sneak in Denver some
years ago and got hurt, like right when he came

(29:58):
in the league. They won't even they won't even do
it for him. Yet he's on the edge running RPOs
and the rest of it. So they are so good
at situational football. And I would have said going in,
I thought the Super Bowl was yesterday in Kansas City.
After what I saw Philadelphia, do they deserve more respect
than maybe we're giving him because they.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
Can play with anybody.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
When they play like that, man, when they're efficient running it,
throwing it, dominate and they can dominate the line of scrims.
Their offensive line is really frigging good man. Yeah, and
their defense gets after it. I think we're in for
one hell of a game. Last time we saw something
this was like really dominant. Brady threw for five hundred
against the Philadelphia Eagles and was driving to win that

(30:40):
game that Nick Foles was the MVP. And they forced
that fumble in the pocket right around midfield somewhere there,
and Brady had thrown for five to zero five already
or whatever it was, and they were going down to
win it. But one simple pass rush and a flick
of the ball laid it on the ground.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
They went recovered.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
You're facing a maybe not as relentless a pass rush team,
but a really good defense. Nick Fangio can coach his
ass off on defense. If you're matching wits with Fangio
and Andy Reid, this is remind because you got a
dominant quarterback who's capable of throwing for five hundred, yet
Philadelphia found it. Can you imagine that found away to

(31:16):
say because their quarterback was masterful and was the MVP
in that game himself. Brady throws for five hundred and
still got out played by Nick Foles. Think about that one.
That's wild crazy. So we were I think we're in
for in truth, most of the season, these two teams
been at the top of the heat.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Hard to argue, right, Also to what to one who
was one?

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Detroit was the one seed, Yeah, but you know the
next seed was Philadelphia and Detroit unfortunately picked the wrong
time to turn it over a bunch. That's the difference.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
One of the things that's also maddening about that game
yesterday is the Buffalo Bills and how they continued to
try to run that push push or whatever you want
to call it over the left hand side.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Dude, it wasn't working. Just keep trying it.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I guess six times it worked once that's because Josh
Allen jumped over the line.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
And almost lost the ball.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Yeah. I mean, as much as I love Joe Brady,
it got to a point he said, you know what
you could You know, you could have easy, you don't
would have scored.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
You don't want to know.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
The honest got truth is the old Tim Tebow jump
pass where you get him into gun on third and
one and he and he takes the gun snap like
they're going quarterback power attacks the line of scrimmage. Every
all eleven would have would have or a fourth and
one if you got the balls to do it, all
of them. Tacked line scrimage, tighten, hesitates dude, and leaks

(32:35):
for the Mike climbacker. What do you think Mike linebackers
doing when you attack lines diving straight, straight towards I'm
telling you right now, yeah he is. He hit his
head on the goalpost. Hey, having the guts to say,
you know, like Philadelphia in the Super Bowl the reverse
pass throat for a touchdown to what Foles got the cat.
So if you had the guts in with all this

(32:55):
inventive stuff the coordinators are doing, I kept thinking, man,
you keep doing this, keep doing this, or it would
have been very simple to get the edge with Cook.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Cook, some freaking monster. He's that the most underrated.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Because a lot of people when they say Cook, they're
thinking of his brother. And the truth is, now this
Cook is better, far better. I mean, this dude, Dalvin
Cook is pretty good. But James Dalvin Cook was a monster.
But this dude just kind of kind of And now
you're looking to say, you know, Buffalo's got a number
one back in a big way.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
You can actually probably touch it more.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
But you know, you're you're playing the game, and sometimes
that's just a hard place to attack when you got
a guy like Jones in that group, and it just
is Campas City was prepared for this and they they
pulled through at the right time. Who was a hell
of a hell of a football game and we knew it. Yeah,
always is making play after play, but they just make
a few more.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Plays than you do.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, the work they find ways to win? Man Super Bowl?

Speaker 7 (33:51):
What is what?

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Super Bowl?

Speaker 13 (33:53):
Is this?

Speaker 6 (33:53):
What's l i X stand for?

Speaker 7 (33:55):
What are we on?

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Like fifty.

Speaker 13 (33:59):
Eye?

Speaker 6 (34:00):
The ex is tifty nine? There you go.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
So when they put the before the exo fifty of
the l I X, yeah, I was gonna say, as
next year it'll be whatever, the sixties, so the IX.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
So that's why I said fifty nine. I think it is. Yeah,
I should know that I got my masters in Roman numerals.

Speaker 9 (34:15):
So.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Yeah, you don't need a master's And that's it's pretty
easy to look at a chart and eventually understand what you're.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Pretty easy just google it, you know. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah l I X Yeah that's the ten minus one,
that's nine and then the L is fifty. So yeah
there's fifty nine. Yep, right there on the fly it
is man, that is not hard. Seven one, three, two, five,
seven ninety is the number to join us. Continue to
roll along. We got a lot to get into coming
up in the seven o'clock hour. We're gonna get into
these astros trained Ryan Presley. Is that going to open

(34:44):
up a door for Alex Bregman? Also man the big
key for this super Bowl? Next on sports Stock sevent ninety.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
The shown Salsbury Show continues, No, no, now, you know.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
You down on Tony?

Speaker 14 (35:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (35:01):
He sucks, man, I don't know what happened, and he's
what happened with you?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
He rode Patrick Mahomes Jock the entire game as if
we need to know, we need to hear that even more.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
The refs do it enough, Tony, let them do it.
I don't know, Jean, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Jean?

Speaker 5 (35:21):
He thought he was waiting too much on his Yes, yeah,
Roma lost his fastball? Man, So you you actually think
he's Tony Romo nut rider?

Speaker 7 (35:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Is that what you're doing?

Speaker 15 (35:35):
Really?

Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
I wish I could say what I really want to say,
but you know, no starts with the yeah, don't say so.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
You're you're you're down on? Uh, he's better now than
he was last year. I agree, I agree, he has
somebody let a fire on him to go back to
just probably because he saw Tom Brady coming in. Yeah,
I it's Jean. What do you hey, Jean, you gotta
talk to Gino. Man, Gene was in the Boothew, you

(36:04):
gotta talk to Gino. You know he's got it handled. Yeah,
g I love Gino down the barbershop and Arlem or
what I love Gino? Yeah, good barbershop talk. I love
good barbershop talk.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
Gene.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
I don't know, hey, Geene, Yep, it's gonna get in.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
That's about eight it's about eighteen to twenty mil work, right,
there must be nice man. Hey.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah, it's a good gig if you can get it. Yeah, seriously,
good gig if you can get it. Seven one, three,
two two five seven nineties number to join Eddie. What's happening?

Speaker 16 (36:39):
Throw some guys?

Speaker 7 (36:39):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (36:39):
I had question, well, not question the comment. Uh, although
Philly played really well, Chicam Buckley is like he's a beast,
But I also feel that I know the score is
like fifty five, but man, I felt like Washington didn't
play well as far as hold them onto the ball?
Did they score on three of their turnovers.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, yeah, they they Washington's biggest problem was yesterday. They
they left the ball on the ground in the wrong time,
whether special teams or offense. And from the get go
you knew it was going to be trouble because they
opened up Barkley on the first play from scrimmage is
what eighteen seconds in whatever it is, the Philadelphia Eagles lead.
You can't turn it over on the road, especially against
good teams.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
Just can't.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
And if you turn it over multiple times and the
other teams playing good, which they did, what will happen
is you'll give up fifty five.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
And that's exactly what.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Happened, exactly.

Speaker 16 (37:31):
Quick question, I mean a quick comment on the Alex
Bregman question. I should say, if we were to get
him back, do you guys think at this time in
his career that he's worth the six years, because I mean,
he's already I feel like he's alreadykind of declining a
little bit, and man, I just feel like, and that's
that thirty year going into the six it's going to

(37:51):
be kind of rough. I'll hang up and listen to
what you guys think.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Thanks, thank you, Eddie.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah, we're gonna talk tons of astros as we get
into the seven o'clock hour. He's not the only one
sewn that's asked over the last probably week or two
about you know, Alex Bregman kind of hitting his peak
and maybe I wouldn't say fall obviously, he hasn't fallen off.
We know he's a notorious slow starter. The twenty six

(38:15):
million seems to be like a fair offer because no
one else is going above that, So production wise, I
think I think we've seen the best from Alex Bregman already.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Offensively, Yeah, offensively. I think a lot of people feel
that way, which is something for him to prove. I
think a five year contract at twenty seven, twenty seven
and a half a year would be good for me.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
I mean we've been saying that since day one.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Man, Yeah, twenty years five five years is fine. Yeah, No,
I don't know if that's what he obviously that he
wants more than that. But I'm hoping we're wrong about
his offensive production a big time. I hope we're wrong
big time about his offensive production. But there's been a
trend of late that he hasn't been as productive at

(38:59):
the plate. So if it was anybody else we'll just
think about it. If it was anybody else, wouldn't we
be saying the same thing we would? So it's I mean,
I understand all of our affection and affinity for Alex Bregman,
and rightfully so. But if you're just looking at a
baseball wise, the guy's gloves magnificent, that hasn't tailed off
a bit. His grind, his work, his leadership, all that's intact,
and he's got a good eye. Although he didn't walk

(39:22):
as much as he normally does, right, So it tells
me that last year he was a little more impatient
and I don't even like these were maybe a little
more desperation at the plate, right, which was that's not him.
He got out of what his normal. If you walk
him four times, he'll let you walk him four times, right,
if you're not throwing strikes, and maybe get back to that.
But I hope we're wrong about his best offensive seasons

(39:44):
behind him. But if he's healthy and plays one hundred
and fifty games, then our expectations should go up. But
the trend has been, you know, between two fifty five
and two seventy somewhere in there, two sixty over the
last few years since he was in the MVP race,
and so people I understand why people feel this way.
If it was a quarterback, a running back, another position,

(40:05):
everybody would be saying the same thing. His games tailed
off offensively, and maybe it has, but he's young enough
to get that fixed.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
What's he thirty now?

Speaker 7 (40:15):
He is?

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Yeah, he's hit. Yeah. I believe he's gonna be thirty
one in March.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah he's Uh so he's showing up in the prime
of his career right now, since twenty twenty one at
two seventy, twenty twenty two, at two sixty two, sixty
two and to sixty.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
So he's a career too that he was right and
two seventy two hitter. Sorry, I don't want to, but
he's he's been. He's been a two sixty hitter for
the last three years.

Speaker 7 (40:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
So so I get the trend and understanding, Well, what
is it going to change? We're gonna find out if
he regardless of where he is, you we'll see. But
I do get why some think that his best offensive
baseball is behind him. But in truth, this is right
about the time. Well, you know, he's got a great
eye that if he's healthy, you can pick up the
tempo and and and elevate. And I think we're all

(41:02):
counting on him to do that because I think for
them to get where they're going, considering the bodies they've
lost at times, and with Kyle Tucker, he's going to
have to be more productive offensively.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Yeah, has two man, I would agree. Seven one, three, two, two, five,
seven ninety is the numbers to join. Let's take a
look at that Astros trade of Ryan Presley and what
that means for the pursuit of Alex Bragman. Next right
here on Sports Talk seven.

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Speaker 6 (41:46):
Okay, let's do this.

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the Kansas Jayhawks in Lawrence, two overtimes.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
What a game that was.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
We're gonna talk Astros. They traded Ryan Presley to the
Chicago Cubs. They got a prospect back in that trade.
Looks like they're gonna pay about five and a half
million dollars worth of Ryan Presley's fourteen million dollar contract.
The Cubs are gonna pay eight and a half. That
makes some wiggle room for potential reunion with Alex Pregman.

(42:38):
I mean, they really need that space to get Alex Pregman. Well,
if if you're I mean, we've talked about it. Yeah,
with this damn tax threshold, you don't want to go
into the second level. But if you do go in,
the second level would be for Alex Bregman. And yeah,
they want they want some wiggle room.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
I guess, well, hopefully he'll wiggle his way back in
the little clubhouse here. It just feels like the longer
it goes, the more you just had to admit the
market wasn't right. But he's going to come back and
play for you. Yeah, unless somebody panics. I mean I
don't hear anybody. There's no national buzz about this, no.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
None.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
I guess you ask yourself why. But sometimes we all
may maybe some undervalue, some overvalue. I mean, he just
not getting what he wants, and I think it's a
bit surprising. I would have never had him had him back,
And I mean in eighty five to fifteen, maybe ninety
ten that he was going to go to ten percent

(43:37):
that he was coming back. But the longer it goes,
the more you think will I hate to say, are
the options try well, I don't hear national buzz and
it's it's almost as if people hear we were all
convinced that he was leaving. So it's it's hard to
even say. I mean, you're sitting here thinking, let me
get back into the mode that Alex Bevan could actually
be a part of this team. And Joe spottas said

(43:59):
he's talked to him, was l twov will play some
left field if but he said specifically if Alex Begman
comes back. Correct, that was the only thing he said.
If not, he'll be at second base in DH the
whole year. But he did say that if it was
if if Bregman's there, they will experiment, you know, parades
over at second base and obviously moving around. The versatility

(44:21):
to put people in competition is going to be great
because there' gonna be a lot of competition this in
this spring training normally there's a very there's very few
spots open here. They're gonna be some competition. Now, bringing
Bregman back will win competition for a couple for some Yeah,
but if he doesn't come back, then Al two V
will not play left field. So I'm just curious about
the market for Bregman if it simply is right now,

(44:46):
one team, Yeah, and it's here, meaning at the price
that he would where he'd be willing to leave. Is
there somebody out there saying, yeah, we'll give you four
years for twenty five minut four years for one hundred
million or is it? And and that's not enough for
you know, it's what's that twenty five million a year?
But I just think about that, it's only two more million,

(45:06):
twenty seven to twenty seven to five of the going
rate and add in a year or two on it.
So I just if the market was still ripe, would
he be here?

Speaker 6 (45:14):
No, he wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
If teams were gonna give him two hundred million dollars,
it would have.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Already happened, even one hundred and seventy five. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah,
even it would have already happened.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Right, I mean it Is somebody gonna wake up and say,
you know what, let's let's go. Let's give him twenty
two to twenty four to twenty five more million dollars
over the course of five or six years, so the Astros.

Speaker 6 (45:31):
Don't get to keep him bringing we want him here?

Speaker 7 (45:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Is Detroit or Boston or somebody gonna wake up and say,
you know what, like, are somebody that we're not talking
about the jumps in late into the fray and wants
Alex Bregman. I it's it's it's odd that it's that
there's at least not a three way battle or something
going on. Right It almost feels like, right now the
Texans feel just from our vantage point, we don't have

(45:54):
any extra insight to stop boris what their approach is.
But it almost feels to me like they're if they
changed their salary offer, that they would be negotiating against themselves.
Yeah here, Yeah, because I mean it's not normally when
it's like this, people keep coming up, you know, you know, yeah,
there's three teams interested, but bless you and impass simply
means we're not on your number or your years.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Bless you, thank you too. Touch So it Yeah, bless you,
bless you. I just don't know how in the world.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Is somebody really going to make that big jumper or
are they now pitting teams against each other. But it
feels to me, it feels to me this is.

Speaker 9 (46:35):
This is.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Astros at the original offer, or somebody else at less
years and maybe even less money.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
So one thing we've heard, or multiple things that we've heard.
Aj Hinch in Detroit obviously great relationship with Alex Bregman,
wants him a part of his organization. Front office says no,
or we're not moving off of this offer. Same thing
in Boston Alex Cora, great ladyship with Alex Bregman, front
office that at we're not going above this price. We

(47:04):
haven't heard one report from any of these national guys
or local guys that any other team has offered him.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
More years and more money or less years and more money.
Not one team.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
I don't even know if I haven't seen. And the
insiders here like Brian McTaggart, Chandlerome and other places, the
past of the national ones, right Nightingales and Passes and
all those guys where their job, they normally know if
two or three teams are interested and maybe I'm missing
it because of the football season, but I still read

(47:40):
their tweets and all that, trying to look for, you know, stuff.
But maybe I've missed along this six week period or
even longer now. Did somebody's coming and said, oh yeah,
we'll give him twenty eight million a year. I have
not seen an offer that tells me that it's higher
than what the Astros originally offered.

Speaker 18 (47:58):
One.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
If it's out there, I've not seen it. One report, right,
you haven't seen it.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
So normally, if it's out there, somebody would have told us, right,
they would have made sure. Matter of fact, you would
have wanted to know if you're in Boris's camp, just
so you know what you're up against. If if, if
somebody did make the album, I almost feel like it's
one in one or nothing right now. At that price, Yeah,
a little surprising, yeah it is, but that price range

(48:26):
is the market for, probably even a little higher than
for a two sixty hitter. I just hard time looking
at him thinking he's a two sixty hitter. Yeah, with
his eye right and his discipline and his work at
the plate. So if he plays like Bregman did, what
in twenty nineteen you're gonna get a bargain. Yeah, if

(48:46):
he plays like he has played, then you're going to
get about what the going rate is for the you know,
the fourth or fifth ranked, third ranked third basement, whatever
it is. But offensively right now, I think that's the
hold up. I think they that there's a lot of
third base when they have ahead of him at the plate.
His glove's magnificent and his bat's better than I think
that the average says. Because he gets on base at

(49:08):
least that's been his history. I just more slugged from
him's got to happen. Yeah, he's got he's he's got
a perfect swing for it and compact and the rest
of it. His slugging percentage and his ability to produce
runs in the where he can carry you like he
did in twenty nineteen for a month on his back.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
That that that's gonna have to happen. Those stats from
twenty nineteen are pretty damn good. He had an ops
of over one thousand, He hit two ninety six on
base of four to twenty three, slugging a five ninety two.
He walked one hundred and nineteen times, had one hundred
and twelve RBIs and forty one bombs in twenty nineteen, right,
and he didn't get the Once we saw that, you're

(49:48):
like a second gosh, yeah, Once you saw that, you're like,
oh man, this is what you expect every year and
that slugging percentage and those home runs.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
How many walks again, one hundred and what one hundred
and how many do you have last year? Forty four exactly?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
He had ninety two in twenty twenty three, and then
eighty seven and twenty twenty two and then forty just
forty four last year.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
That's that's a massive one hundred nineteen in twenty nineteen, one, nineteen, Yeah,
what is that?

Speaker 13 (50:15):
Like?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Seventy four different seventy five? Is that seventy five less
seventy Is that seventy five less walks? Or might hear
sixty five which was seventy five less walks?

Speaker 6 (50:26):
Seventy five? What you think about that? Seventy five freakin alarming?

Speaker 7 (50:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (50:31):
How many at bats did he have in nineteen?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
In twenty nineteen he had five hundred and fifty four
at bats in this past year.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
This past year he had five hundred and eighty one, So.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
He had more at bats than he did in his
MVP year. Yeah, and seventy five less walks. Yeah, that's
a problem and it's going to have to change. Yeah,
I mean you just look at just look as if
he comes back here, just look at twenty twenty three,
ninety two walks, forty eight walks.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
This past year. That's an alarm le number. Fifty percent
less more than fifty percent.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Less five years. Seventy five walks. Yeah, in five years,
that's the difference, and more at that's last year than then. Yeah, dude,
that's a trip now. But so maybe people are looking
at if you're looking at the analytics of it, the
numbers that that may very well be offensive production. Why
he hasn't got what he's wanted, I think.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
The biggest thing, and I'm just assuming front offices have
got to see the notorious slow starts. It's every year, man,
every April, every April, every May, every June.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Can you continue to say at thirty will be thirty
one in March when the season starts. Can we continue
to say, man, I love his game, but can we
continue to say, oh, it's okay, it's Alex until June. Yeah,
I just something's got to change with that. It's almost

(51:58):
like he needs to start pretending. Like you said, he's
in games today, so by the time spring training gets here,
he's he's got.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
His two months, right, yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
But I mean he is a difference maker and having
him on this team for a lot of other you
heard pain, you say it for a lot more reasons
than just his play on the field, And we've heard
that a million times. But I still don't know. Okay,
if if this is where he's gonna what's the hold up?

Speaker 7 (52:21):
What is what do we wait?

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Are you waiting for somebody to jump in because you're
afraid and now Bregman is coming back here, you're hoping
somebody gets, you know, to the point where they panic
a little bit and then raises it five million a
year in salary.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
What are you waiting for?

Speaker 4 (52:34):
If a team was going to offer you the big money,
it would have already happened, I would think. So I
just don't feel like a team's going to add a
nowhere and be like, oh man, the Astros traded Presley,
They've got the door back open for Bregman.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
Let's go give him thirty million. It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
If I was the Astros I'll be honest with you
after all this because it's business. It's not personal. It's
not you and I love Bregman, it's not personal. If
I was negotiating, I wouldn't give him a nickel more
no our original offer, And there'd be a part of
me that says, if you don't take the offer by
a certain time.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
We're done.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
We're gonna get less.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
That's right, or we're gonna come down to twenty five years.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Because what you also have to realize is the guys
that are here are trying to figure out what their
opportunity is. So you want to not that they need
to know, but it'd be nice where there's a path
where he say, Okay, he's not there. Now we got,
you know, pray at third base. Now we're going to
move around. We got to find outfielders we got The
truth is you got to find three consistent starters in
the outfield. Where are you finding it? So the Bregman

(53:31):
that the all the playout from Bregman's deal, But I wouldn't.
I wouldn't offer any more money. Yeah, because apparently then,
like I said, you're just giving money away for the
helmet because it doesn't seem to me like there's a
you're not in a bidding war right now.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
You're not. You're not, And I'm not going to put
myself in one.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
If against me, Yeah, I was gonna say, why would
you even try to put yourself into that position?

Speaker 5 (53:54):
If they come back and say, hey, we were offered
thirty million a year for five years from some of
the else for six years, you'd say, well, congratulations, go
get that back. Congratulations, don't play your time. That's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
I'm not going over the twenty six million. Sorry, you
know what, they haven't been offered that. No, exactly why
he's still here, all right, exactly why he's still a
free agent. To right, Let's get to the steak out
next right here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 17 (54:17):
Let the celebration start war Shawn Salisbury, The Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
All right, Sean, what are.

Speaker 7 (54:29):
You hearing out there now?

Speaker 17 (54:30):
The Salisbury takeout, sALS Burrief takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Let's get to the steak out here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, Sean Brown and Tripoli, all right for the
steak out, Sean. We were at FanFest on Saturday doing
a broadcast.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
We were on the.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Broadcast from two to four. Adam Wexler, ross A vi Reale,
Dan Matthews. They had it from eleven to two. Great event.
I think there was like twenty two thousand people that
came in. Not the largest attendance, but still a packed house.
A lot of Astros fans came through. Simple question, man,
how was your first fan fest? How's the experience?

Speaker 5 (55:39):
I actually enjoyed it. It went fast, good guess, a
lot of laughs. I thought Joe Espotta was extremely engaging
and fun.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
He was I get white people all to talk about
white people like being around him. I think he I
also loved when we had the conversation about stuff he
learned to get him in the year two right, just
like a rookie player, and the thanks he learned going

(56:13):
from an assistant. And I felt, and a lot of
people may have not heard because the weekend they're running
taxi cab services for their kids and stuff. Is when
he said, don't be surprised if this year he's a
little more forceful in his getting injections with umpires. And
felt at times it was maybe a little too.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Tame, how self deprecating because we asked him. We were like, hey,
got to be honest with you, Joe, your first career
rejection was lackluster. Yeah, And you were like because you said,
because if that's me, I'm dropping f bombs, I'm getting
I'm getting ran.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
Oh yeah, I said, I leave Bobby Cox all over again.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
He but he did say that he felt like that
needed to change something, and I thought that was really cool.
But you know, you're feeling your way around, and you
want to be a good example for your guys because
you're telling don't get out of hand, you know, let's
be poised and all that. You're trying to set the example.
But there also comes a point in time when the
guys in the dugout and Joe know and he admitted
it that the guys are waiting because I said it
to it, and he said, you know, there's a time

(57:08):
when you know, I'm leaving these dugout steps, I'm getting
run here, my teams getting were down five, We're not
there's I got to do something. Guy mixed balls and strikes,
go jump up in his grill and do it. So
I thought that was fascinating something from everybody, you know,
I thought that it was I thought the the you know,
it was fans loved their astros. Obviously it was impressive.

(57:30):
I thought the setup was great, but just the information
because they're in a more casual setting, right, so you're
probably going to get more free spirited stuff now then
you would do it because of the grind. And you know,
I love when Joe said, I said, you're on social
media with all this stuff? Here he goes, no, he goes.
I was when I was third base coach in New York.
I said, New York, yeah, man of all places, and
he laughed. He said, then I did it one day.

(57:52):
I said, a runner home and got him throw it out.
He said, that was the last of my social media
because here you're the temptation to read it no matter
who you are, when people are just destroying you. But
he does have eyes out there in case somebody's being
derogatory towards his team, making it personal and stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
So I thought he was great. Pain you was.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
It looks like Paine's got a little more. It feels
to me like he's dialed in mentally right now, it
really does.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
He was way more free flowing open because I interviewed
him the year prior. I heard he was up tight
the last very straight, lace like very just very coach talk,
very you know, put your head down and go to work.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
This year, dude joking around, laughing with us. It was great.

Speaker 18 (58:33):
Man.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Part of me likes to.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
Think that, you know, it's just good personalities bringing out
his energy.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
I completely agree. I mean, we got compliments. There were
a couple of guys that came out of nowhere, right
up to the booth during commercial breaks and complimented us
for being doing a great job. And then on Twitter,
like a couple guys tweeted me and said, you and
Sean made these guys feel comfortable in its shows. So
I hope that that's part of it. But acid, I'm not,

(58:59):
But I'm not.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I think we did a hell of a job. Oh yeah,
well no, that I do know, but I expect that
from us every time. Yeah, but it just in those
times he can get it's okay not to talk. You know,
the scientific the science of hitting and laughing. You know,
Descenzo was engaging for first. If you just see him
from a distance on the field and read, you can't
appreciate how big this dude is.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
When he got up.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
I know, he's six y five. I'm six five, about
two forty six right now to forty five somewhere in
that range. Do you ever take a pound or so,
he's every bit of six five and he is he is.
That's two hundred and thirty five pounds of big ass man.
Now that's he For those who don't he looks like
an outside linebacker. Yeah, I'm being serious. It's incredible. So

(59:43):
I just felt it was. Uh, I'm glad I did
it for that. I mean normally, like I said, I'm
wes by this time for three weeks or something and
working from out there. But I'm I'm glad I did it.
I was loved being a you know, doing it with
you and Gordy and Dan and we had a good time.
But the fans were very kind, as they always they're passionate.
Great to meet some of you folks out there that
we've never met. But I really loved their approach to it.

(01:00:07):
It felt to me they were relaxed and they I
felt like they enjoyed being there too, and that's got
to fatigue them because everybody wants a piece of them, right. Yeah,
But I was impressed with the young guy's attitude. Knowing
the competition is going to be there and impressed with
you know, Paina and the guys that have been there.
In Joe Aspata, I really found Joe to be extremely
engaging and you could tell he's a good baseball guy

(01:00:27):
and he trusts his players, which is important.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
I think the coolest insight that we got from Joe
Aspata is when we were talking about him getting ejected
and then he talked about certain things that upset him
about umpires. But the one thing that really stood out
to me was like he said, yeah, we had He
didn't name any ames. He said we had that umpire
earlier in the season at an he named the specific

(01:00:53):
road trip where they were at and he said, this happened,
that happened, this happened, and then fast forward he didn't forget,
and then he said we had that same crew for
like three series in a row.

Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
And it was a trend of missed of some that
he didn't kept.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Happening and kept happening. He's like, yeah, and I displayed
my displeasure.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
And I think you're going to see a little more
fire this year. But he also is a guy that
it feels to me like he's got his emotions out
of control, which is a good thing too, because you
don't want to get out of hand because you know
you want your manager in the dugout.

Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
But he's gonna put it this way.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
My guess is he may get run more than he
did last year, just and and that's okay. And it
may be in one of those times where just it
needed to happen, right, So I was pleasantly not surprised.
But it was a It was in the two hours
when they flew by, it was it was really good.
And I'm glad we got a chance to spend some
time with those guys because the personalities, the true personalities,

(01:01:46):
make you easy to root for. I mean, just all
those guys, Descenzo when it needs to got to root
for him, to all of them, they were, every single
one of them was engaging and very kind with theirs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if he plays a
pivotal role out of the bullpen this year. From left
handed arm throws hard walking on a change up. Nick
Arnandas was also with us. He's looking to try to
break camp down in Triple A and Sean Dubin was
with us as well. Sean Dubin worked at Low's for
a year. He had quit baseball and was working at
Low's and then just happened to go to a tryout.

(01:02:21):
Hit eighty seven, eighty eight on the gun. They picked
him up. Now he throws a hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Yeah like it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Baseball is wild man, what a great gig man, Renelle
Blanco working in a car wash. Now he's one of
the best pitchers on this staff. I mean those of
no hitter Like just baseball's wild man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Just an opportunity and when the opportunity presents itself, you
got to seize it because you just don't know how
often it will. And the group that we had there
and they know the competition the young guy's in. It's
great and it's it's it's bittersweet because it's great because
there is competition. Yeah, but it's also a bummer for
the young guys because like, man, I could play great
and I still can't get up. Because that triple A
team they had they run out there is they were

(01:02:55):
loaded with future major leaguers and current ones.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
So it's impressive. Yeah, man, it was all a good
time with those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
It was also pretty impressive, you know, ladies, showed out
for Jeremy Pinion and then the dudes were lining up
to see you. Man, I just can't blame them, you know.
I mean you have the money maker on full display.
You know, had a good waffle on a waf Can
you blame them? I'm just you can pull you can
pull it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Yes, I just as good as anybody, that's right, without
even trying. No, man, right, what a magnet today?

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
I think?

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Quick?

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Oh there is okay, Triple ain't ever quitting you always
making sure man did come rain or shine? Triple sitting
there it was raining this morning.

Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
Yeah, are we done with that yet? With what rain?

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
No, I'm ready. It's really getting in the way of
me doing.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
Slapping balls around. Yeah on the golf course.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
I gotta get out there and at the pin man, Yeah,
really starting probably, I bet dude, you'r O. C. D.
Is probably going nuts without being on the golf course.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
To the point of watching games standing up in my
room with a fake golf club and are you in
the front room. I'm dead serious walking around and and
and like pacing like a dog wood when they want
to eat pacing working all came out and I got
to make sure my wristcock is right, dude, I'm said,
I'm watching the early games standing up in my front
room working on golf swing and if it wasn't rained,
and I would have gone and putting on you know,

(01:04:09):
the back of the house. But yeah, it's it's to
the point where I'm like restless, like a kid the
night before Christmas. It's drive me nuts, it really is.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Can you please tell Tanny to take a video next time?

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
It's a regular occurrence.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Watching highlights on the Golf Network today, I.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
Could, I could explain it exactly what. Oh, it's true.
And then all of a sudden, I'm watching the tournament
and now I'm excited for Pebble Beach this week and like, okay,
oh yeah, I'm a nut job. I'm watching the D
the the early morning. I wake up on Sunday and
they got the the is it the d the DP
Tour that's like they're playing Europe and like Saudi Arabia.
It's the European Tour and some PGA Tour player like

(01:04:45):
Patrick Reid plays in a lot of it. And I
wake up early and I'm watching that on Sunday morning.
That and the Pioneer Woman on Food Network with new recipe.
I'm dead series every single week taper shows dead. So yeah,
I think Reed Drummond is a tree Trojan too. A
year a seagirl. Yeah, oh dude, I'm all over. I'm
sitting there a recipe. He's like, Oh man, I am.
I gonna make sure she did a rolled like burrito,

(01:05:09):
a breakfast burrito, the way it was rolled and baked. Yeah,
I'm like, and then she cut it. I said that recipe,
I got it on tape.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
I'm gonna make that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
I'm a psycho, dude. And this this weather's keep me
indoors and I tracked me. Now you're just getting cabin fever,
big time, big time.

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Let's got.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
If the Astros don't bring back Alex Bregman, they got
some wiggle room. Could they be targeting a left handed bat.
We'll talk about it next.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
Let's got out to the phone line. Sheena, good morning.

Speaker 19 (01:05:42):
Hi, good morning. So yeah, just hearing y'all talk about
the fan fest. We were out there this weekend, first
time for us going, and that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Was just it was a great event.

Speaker 19 (01:05:53):
So uh, just the players are just so generous with
their time and everything out there. Unfortunately, we didn't get
to listen to a lot of forums and listen to
you know, we passed by All's booth a couple of times,
didn't really get to listen to the interviews because we're
there for our six year old and stop and just
listening to people talk with it where her main interest was.
But but yeah, we got you know, got a few

(01:06:15):
autographs Blanco and Hunter Brown and he was just like
having a little conversation with our six year.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
Old when she went up to get his autograph.

Speaker 19 (01:06:22):
I don't know about what, but got to give Jeremy
Penya a high five because he passed us by it
one time. And then we were up there and with
the kids' autographs, we can you can look down on
the suite level where or on the club level where
they were doing paid autographs, and like everybody was down
there and my daughter just like sat there looking down
until she could get out two days attention to wave up,

(01:06:45):
wave at her. So it was just a great event,
and you know, I think we're really gonna try to
go from now on speak about you know, you mentioned
the Presley Trade. You know, I think that's a really
good thing, hoping that that bringing up some of that
money can help help us with getting some type of
you know, if you don't make this Bregman deal, getting
some type of bat in the lineup, hopefully an outfield.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
Bat would be nice.

Speaker 19 (01:07:08):
Get some type of power from the outfield.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
You know, I'm looking at it now.

Speaker 19 (01:07:13):
I'm like, y'all are still willing to pay you know,
maybe Bregman iron two hundred and ten million. It's like,
why didn't y'all go after Santander? He was only like
ninety three million for five years. So need to get
some type of power in the lineup right now. I
think that's you know, it's gonna be a crime if
they don't go out and do something more this off
season to strengthen the team.

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
It's a great point. And Sheena glad you had fun.
That's yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
I would imagine your six year old daughter would prefer
to walk around and meet all her favorite players, and
so we're grateful you were there one of these times
we get a chance to meet you and your husband
and your daughter. But I think I'm with you. I
thought it was a hell of an event. And she's
right about the baseball we need. There's going to have
to be more. The power is going to have to
reappear this year. Yeah, it is, and and I think

(01:07:58):
it will. But once again, the starting pitchings, the strength
of this team as we sit today.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt, man, and especially with farmer
Valdez Hunter Brown leading the way. Dana Brown did say
that Lance mccullor's junior and Luis Garcia would not be ready.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
For opening day.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
So hopefully that means just getting through spring training, maybe
starting in double A, Triple A, to just get some
reps under your belt, and then coming back up to
the big league club and I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Let's just hope it doesn't leak and it's there there
at least part of the way through spring training they're
ready to go, and that you know, if they're not
ready for us start early on in there in the
twenty twenty five season, that it won't it won't carry
itself out too much longer. Yeah, I mean, I'm anxious
to see how they both how quickly they both come

(01:08:50):
back and are at full speed and velocity and all
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Just for Lance mccullors. Just stay healthy, Yeah, just stay healthy.
I'd be frustrating for him. Oh my goodness, grind is brutal.
And I can't take another Lance mcolors junior setback.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
I can't. No, just just stay healthy, man. Is it
a setback that they're not ready on time for spring training?
Is it a set back for him? They've been out
for how long? Yeah? What are we doing in our
rehab fellas? Or is this just over precaution? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
Maybe maybe. I mean I think that you'd rather have
him a week or two behind in spring training than
three months behind during the regular season. So I would
imagine there's some precaution. But I also know that if
they were exactly where they wanted to be right now,
you wouldn't have to worry about precaution, the precaution how
many throw how many innings or bullpen sessions or live

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VP or live work they're going to get in spring
training right against no an opponent's hitting.

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
But it just I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
It would be such a bummer if Lance mccullor's was
still taking more. I mean, if if it took him
till you know, like June to get rolling, I mean,
you're taking whatever you can get him. Let's let's hope
it's that his recovery is better this time. Lansom mcquicker.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Lance mccullors Junior has not pitched in the big leagues
in a game since November first, twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (01:10:12):
That was in the World Series where lacked.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Yeah, that was a rough so and you know what,
those things, It's had a lot of time to fester
in him. So he knows what it's going to take
to him to get back to be the guy he
was before any of these injuries kicked in.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
That's over two years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Yeah, long time. Hopefully the healthful that this isn't a
long term setback. I would hope. Yeah, just just stay healthy.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
Man agreed.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Seven three, seven ninety is the number to join. Jose
al Tuve spoke about what it would take to get
Alex Bregnan back and what he is willing to do.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
We also heard from Joe Spata in regards to that
as well. That's next.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued. We talked about it on Friday. Reportedly,
jose Altuve was telling the organization that if it meant
bringing back Alex Bregman, he would move to left field.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
Sean and I worked Astros fan Fest.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
We visited with Joe Aspata, and this is what the
manager had to say about jose al Twove potentially move
in the left field.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
Well, that that sets it all.

Speaker 9 (01:11:16):
You know, this is a guy that a Hall of
Fame player that you know, once he's in his career
in Houston, he wants to finish his career in a
winning club. So if he takes if he takes a
hint to go to left field, go to center field,
going to the outfield to accommodate one of the one
of the best players in the league in Alex Bregman

(01:11:36):
at winner. Uh, not only on the field, but in
the clubhouse, Josey will go to left field. And you know,
and we have talked about it, we you know, and
Hosey is willing to do that if he gets to
a point when we're going to bring someone on Alex
Brigman on the field back to back on the team.
So you know, there's no secrets and and hose is
all in and you know, and I'm all in about
the idea. But if we do that, obviously Alex needs

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to sign with with the club and then we'll sit
down and then parade, you know, correct, and then we'll
and then we'll figure it out.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
But but you know, but there's no but sure makes
it easy for your.

Speaker 9 (01:12:09):
Versatility, absolutely, because it's not like, you know, he's going
to be the every day left field No, you know,
he'll find himself playing second base also. But at least
he gives an opportunity for us to move pieces around
and keep our lineup flexible and you know, and competitive for.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Every single day.

Speaker 7 (01:12:25):
Go ahead, I was gonna say.

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
It's what you're gonna do anyways.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
I feel like with the way the lineup is constructed
right now, you're still gonna be moving there.

Speaker 9 (01:12:31):
Especially exactly like he's got a d H D bond
will find himself, you know, giving you know, giving i'll
two D days.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Off is the best way for us to keep host
L two on the.

Speaker 9 (01:12:42):
Field anyways, right if we want to have him one
hundred and fifty games, he's going to have to d H.
He's going to have to you know, we got to
move him around limit just to keep them, just to
keep them healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
And that's a manager Joe Spotty, he visited with us
with Sean and I on Saturday afternoon at Astros fan Fest.
A right, you heard it right from the manager. If
Alex Bregman comes back, Jose Altuve is gonna play left field,
He'll play left field, he'll DH and he'll play second base.

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
So that cuts the narrative out. Oh why would is
Jose Alven saying this? Well, they actually do it. Yes,
just heard it from the manager.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
So please please just say no, that's never gonna happen. Well,
it may never happen, but Joe Espada has said did
they can do things with Hose al Tuv left field?

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
Period.

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
So if Bregman's here, but he made it specific again,
Alex Bregman's not here, Jose al Tuve not play left field,
It'll be an adjustment if Bregman's back, And of course
Altove is gonna do anything to get Bregman back. So yeah,
I thought it was a very fourth, right and transparent answer.
I don't think Joe skirted one of the questions, and
he did not only with the laughs, but the serious

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stuff and the fun stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
I thought he was.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
I thought he was spot on and was in and
on point with his approach, and I was really I
was really impressed with him in person. I'm impressed with
him anyway, but it was he seemed more impressed when
you get to sit there and see it yourself, and
it was a it was a good session listening to
Joe talk about his astros.

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
He was fantastic with us man. I I admire the
transparency that he gave us. Honestly, he didn't hesitate like
you said, he didn't shy away for many any of
our questions.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
He was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
He was, like I said, transparent and man, he he
has a way of I'm trying to think. You know,
you hear all the time about how he kind of
commands a room and finally getting the opportunity to be
a manager.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
Well, I see why.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
I mean, he captivated my attention real quick, just from
from the get go of the first question we asked him. Mean,
like you said, he had fun with us man, he
was open and you know he talking about jose Al
Tuvey mentioning Alex Bragman.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
Another thing that you talked about the comments.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
An aspect of it, Sean is Zach Dezenzel was going
to get time in the outfield as well. He's going
to play outfield in spring training. He's going to play
some infield. So look for that competition aspect of it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Yeah, there's no doubt and he and he himself Descenzo
said he you know, and Joe reiterated it about him
playing a lot of time Puerto Rico on left field
so soft season, and we know he's a corner infield originally,
and even in school in other places he spent some
time in left field. And he said his number one
priorty to this offseason has been working on you know,
balls hit at him and getting jumps on balls in

(01:15:30):
the gap and working on his defense as an outfielder.
I thought that was really cool. And you know, who's
to say a guy that versaile, I don't know, can he?
I asked him what he was more comfortable at, and
he said left field, because he hasn't played a lot
of right field. But if you can play both quarter infields,
I would imagine with his size and arm that he
can probably handle a little bit. And I wouldn't be

(01:15:52):
surprised if he worked at both corner outfields at times.
Right right field may not be his natural position, obviously,
it seems like he he was folks more on left
field if it wasn't a corner infield position. Man with
Christian Walker here yea and with parades and possibly Bregman,
then that may be the place in the outfield that
Zach Decenzo has an opportunity to break in because and

(01:16:13):
it was I loved it when he said about barreling
up the baseball, that he spent a lot of time.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
That's all he wants to do is barrel it up.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
He goes because my natural strength, natural power will come through,
which means he's not trying to force the ball and
pull everything and hit everything out of the ballpark. I
thought there was some great young perspective. And this is
gonna breed a lot of competition spring Train probably since
I've been in this town, maybe just a little after,
probably in about eight to ten years, eight years. This
is this will be as much competition as this team's

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ever had at a handful of positions.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Yeah, and I love it, man, And especially if.

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
The Bregman thing doesn't work, you're gonna have competition at
three outfield positions. You're gonna have competition to battle for
some d H time. If you're down, you just are
and depending on the you know, and you're gonna battle
for depending on uh, you know, when al Twove takes
days off.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
We know the dubond thing. But you know, Paradus is
gonna need a few days off. Christian.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
I mean, you're gonna you're gonna want to be that
other Swiss Army Knife and Descenzo who can play all
three may be a value, an invaluable asset to them
to give guys like that a break where the catcher
doesn't have to play first base as much. Right, So,
who knows, But I just this is a good mix
of youth and veterans, and I like the fact competition
will either bring out the worst in some and they'll wilt.

(01:17:22):
And I wouldn't imagine that'll be the case because this
city developed, this team develops players really well. But it
also brings out the best, which we've seen in this town.
It's brought out the best in their characters since uh hell,
since I've been here. Yeah, Hosey, I love I love Hosey.

Speaker 7 (01:17:36):
Hosey.

Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
I like I called him Hosey too.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
He calls everybody anybody that's nam Jose called jose bre
you Hosey.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Yeah love it. We gotta start doing that. We gotta
implement that indoor.

Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
So we're gonna start calling out to Hosey. Yeah, all right,
Hosey all TV.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
Yeah, why not.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
I mean we're just I mean, if if the if
the skipper can do it, then we're just gonna we're
gonna echo his sentiment, hose Hosey.

Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
Yeah, I love it, absolutely love They had.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
The orange is still in the train by the way
at park I don't even look still there. When are
they gonna put the h vacuum in the back of it?

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
Aren't you glad they weren't apples? I did there? Yeah? Nice,
I haven't heard that one of the.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
That's good marking down seven fifty six, first dad joke
of the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
Damned right. It's kind of slipping. It is Monday, Monday.
Just give me sometimes I like to.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Sometimes we'll just go on on a plethora dad jobs.
Sometimes you got to pick and choose. Yeah, today it
was just like a crowbar. It was a really to
tea up.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Yeah that tg U respect. That was no king crowbar. No,
it wasn't.

Speaker 13 (01:18:41):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Let's let's get into eight o'clock hour May in the Texans. Buddy,
Oh quickly things change my year.

Speaker 6 (01:18:51):
I just asked you on like Thursday, I think, do you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Realize that there was a couple of teams interested in
hiring the offensive coordinators a head coach, I mean interested
in interviewing him. Yeah, and he year ago. He's one
of the hottest commodities. And just like that, they're looking
for offensive line and offensive portator.

Speaker 7 (01:19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
You got some of the names in front of you talking.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Yeah, there you go, I sure do. Let's talk interesting too.
Name's on there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
The Texans make a move on Friday, they fired Bobby Slowick,
who could be the next offensive coordinator. Let's talk about
it as we get in the eight o'clock hour right
here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
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radio station.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
And the Rocket.

Speaker 17 (01:19:33):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety your home for your home, Seeds.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
To USC true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
University of Houston taking down Kansas in two overtimes. What'll
win for the Koogs on Saturday in Lawrence? Your super
Bowl is set Eagles and Chiefs. We're gonna talk about
the Texans firing offensive cooridator Bobby slowick. This segment, we'll
also get into the potential of who could be the
next offensive coordator before we get to that. Got a
couple guys who want to get in on the phone

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lines at seven one, three, two, five, seven ninety to
start with Ronnie, Ronnie, Good morning.

Speaker 20 (01:20:26):
Go Corning guys. I didn't hear too much talk at
I listened to most of the fan fest on radio Saturday.
But with McCullers not being ready, Garcia not being ready,
I don't know when Avier is supposed to come back. Well,
of course Erlander's not here. Who who's gonna fill in
in the starting rotation? I know the guy we got

(01:20:47):
some cubs and the Tucker deal may be a person
who's considered. But did you might want to talk to
Dana whenever you get a chance to talk to him
again about some of the young guys it Corpus or
sugar Land who might fight for the starting rotation and

(01:21:07):
spring Craning comes around. And as far as the OC
for the Texans is concerned, Uh, you got a guy
sitting right there in your studio. As far as I'm concerned,
who should be the OC? And that's Sean and that
way Sean can be replaced on the radio by a
biscuit or John from Sugarland, or Me or Holly or Sheena,

(01:21:31):
you know, any of the great listeners. But Shawn should
be the oc.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
Zach because you like me more as the OC or
a radio host. My man, I'm kidd hey, I like you,
I like you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:42):
I like you both well.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
I appreciate you both.

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
I would love it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
I'll tell you what, if somebody called, I'd take the interview.
I mean, uh, that'd be great. If you're asking if
I'm prepared for it, the answer would be yes. But
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
I can tell by thank you for the competent.

Speaker 20 (01:21:57):
I can tell you're prepared for it. I can tell
you're prepared for it by the way way you talk.
You know everything, you know so much.

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
And you've been through so much.

Speaker 20 (01:22:04):
And I just think I don't want I don't know
who I want because I don't want some recycled person necessarily,
but I don't want a guy who's never coached anything before.
So I don't know who some of the main candidates
might be.

Speaker 7 (01:22:19):
You might go through that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
We are I don't know we actually are going to
do it this half hour, My man, we are going
to go through somebody. Man, Ronnie, thank you and thank
you for the nice compliment. That was very kind.

Speaker 6 (01:22:28):
Appreciate it, buddy, appreciate you. Let's go from Ronnie. He
mentioned biscuit. Happy birthday. Biscuit will start there.

Speaker 7 (01:22:35):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 21 (01:22:38):
Shine. The word that comes to mind is painful, my brother.

Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
Yep, I hear you, man, thankful man, you.

Speaker 7 (01:22:43):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 21 (01:22:44):
I'm not as I'm not quite as old as Shine Saucebury,
but I'm getting there.

Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
You might be old. I'm getting.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
I don't feel let's put it that way.

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
There you go, yes, sir, There you go. Man, and Shine.
You know I can't replace a shintow. I appreciate the.

Speaker 21 (01:23:01):
Compliment, Ronnie, but out now you gotta have big Shine
in that seat over there.

Speaker 7 (01:23:05):
Big shop.

Speaker 21 (01:23:09):
Yeah, hey, Shine. And I think I don't know if
you remember Little Mima. I think it made around my
week twelve or thirteen. I said, man to Miko, go
had some decisions to make this off season, and it's
gonna be interesting how he handled it. And they Shine,
I take my hat off to Demiko.

Speaker 22 (01:23:25):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:23:26):
He looked at it.

Speaker 21 (01:23:27):
He probably prayed about and on him like me. A
spiritual man, he said, this offense ain't good enough not
to beat the teams that we're trying to get to,
like Baltimore and Kansas City and Buffalo. No, this ain't
good enough, man, I need somebody else.

Speaker 9 (01:23:40):
And then.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
Did if he disagreed with what was going on, instead
of just do it, to do it for another year
because well, maybe it'll work out. He's saw enough that
said no, no, no, it's got to stop now. And
I applaud that that. As a leader, you got to
make a lot of decisions that aren't popular, no doubt, Biscuit.

Speaker 21 (01:23:58):
Right, And then then like you said, ay, uh, it
wasn't no knee jerk decision. It's probably uh, you know,
accumulation of things and things that transpired. And he's like,
you know what, na, just because he you can see
how he's setting the team up and and and the
truth be told, Sean, the way the Texans played the Chiefs,
that's how you beat him. You gotta be physical. You

(01:24:21):
gotta be a hard nosed, physical, smash mouth, hit him
in the mouth.

Speaker 7 (01:24:26):
Type of team.

Speaker 21 (01:24:27):
If you the physical for next game, that the Chiefs
will get you every time. You'll be physical.

Speaker 7 (01:24:33):
And like the Texans was physical with him.

Speaker 21 (01:24:36):
Man, they had him on the ropes. I think chiefs
like man, we rather play this other type of game.
And when we run around and you know, bubble screens
and you know, picking no man, you gotta hit him
in the mouth. And that's what the Miko setting this
team up to be. But you gotta have the offense
to go with.

Speaker 7 (01:24:52):
He can't just beat defense.

Speaker 21 (01:24:54):
And and you know, hopefully you know, I don't know.
I don't, I don't, y'all know. Chick Kelly name has
been throwing out. Just don't see the chip Kelly thing
because it's philosophy wise. I think the Miko wants to
be a run first type of team and I just
don't see, you know, even though chim Kelly probably could
do it, I just don't see that as a good match.
And I don't know what I know. Anthony Len I

(01:25:15):
think was out there too. It's it's some other guys.
But kudos and the MIKO for making the decision and
not not shying away from it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Agreed, agreed, good stuff, brother, Thank you for it all,
thank you for it all. Yeah, and brother, we're thankful
for you and uh you deserve it. And happy birthday
and uh, every day. We always look forward to it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:34):
Man, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
I appreciate it now. I know you're thankful and he
sincerely mean it. So and we're grateful as well. So interesting,
you know, he makes good points. It's it's a hard
thing as a and Ronnie again, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
That was very nice.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
It's a hard thing as a head coach sometimes because
he's had a relationship with Bobby Slope, they were in
the same city, they were in San Francisco together. Yeah,
that's one of the hard things about being a head coach,
probably the hardes. It's like cutting a player and at
the end of training, ca have you started to build relationship.
It's a hard thing to do. And the ability to
be able to turn off your emotion and treated as
business as opposed to that's my buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
The buddy things.

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
You know, if it's your buddy or somebody had a
relationship with Listen, guys fire guys all the time that
are their friends, and they may meet up again and
do it again together in another city.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
Right, We've seen that happen. But it is a hard
thing to do.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
And I do applaud I don't like, you know, nobody
likes anybody get fired. Bob put it this way in
some other city, Bobby Sloke probably did enough to keep
his job. But I think they saw the slide from
year one to year two and it was an enormous
one up front and penalties and silly stuff. Then maybe
he felt like and one thing, it's just not the
optics you and I see watching TV on game day,

(01:26:46):
all the stuff on the practice field. Demko's like I said,
don't we talked about evaluating your coach. He evaluated three
of them and three of them are gone. I mean
evaluating them saying okay, does this fit with philosophy?

Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
Wise?

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
Every day in the meeting room, and you know who's
to say he didn't have conversation with people on the
offensive side the balls that are we progressing? I think
it's important to talk to your veteran players say, man,
how was it even a rookie at times to say, okay, how.

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
Are the media?

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
You know what I'm saying. Of course you do, so
we don't know when on there. But what happens sometimes
is you say you hang on a little too long
with somebody that you probably think because the truth is,
if they regress again next year, offensively, if it was
the same regime. Guess who else is going to catch
a lot of flack Ryan? Sure, yeah, because that's his heat.
It's his highest head coach, right, So that's those things.

(01:27:32):
And it's not a matter just to see whya. I think,
it's just are we where we want to be? Like
Biscuits said, can we beat Buffalo, Philadelphia, Kansas City, Baltimore
on a regular basis? Are we them yet? And the
truth matters offensively, they're not. Defensively, they're damn close. So
I applaud him to the question is who's next? What

(01:27:52):
kind of guy you're gonna get? That's that fits in
with your defensive philosophy, but that you're not gonna babysit
that you can still let you when you hire. You
got to give them a chance to cut it loose.
But you better make sure in those interviews when they
get on the board that they're thinking like you want
them to think. With the overall Texans football, how you
want to play it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
Yeah, And it wasn't just Bobby Slowkhu and it's not
just his fault at all. The Texans are also letting
the contracts of offensive assistant Draw James and Leander Wallace expire.
So two other offensive assistants they weren't fired, but their
contracts are going to expire and then they'll be quote
unquote free agents to find We're not they're not going

(01:28:30):
to renew their contracts. So that's three offensive coaches. So
that just shows me Demiko Ryans not happy with the
offensive progression.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
Offensive line. I mean there's a offensive line coaches like
go as well.

Speaker 5 (01:28:41):
Yeah, I mean that equal five guys, four guys to
four on the offensive side of the ball. It seems
to me the defense got better in the offense did
not consistent. Like I said, the two most consistent performances
that I felt that they had were their two playoff games.
Now is that a step in the right direction saying
they're finally turning it on or you still didn't see enough?
And after that last game when I said they're getting better,

(01:29:04):
I'm talking about I thought the play call and they
were still in the Kansas City they dominated it. Yet
think about this, yet you still gave up eight sacks
and the special teams needed to have a kick in
the rear.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
But that's where it all stems from.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
Because if the offensive line's not good, everything else suffers, right,
But I'm talking about the consistent player. They were in
position to win both of them, let's put it that way. Yeah,
And but they have not been able to string two
or three together all year long where the offense looked
dominant points of it. Yes, but I'm talking about through
and through consistent, right, not there, and and it's a problem.
So now the next thing is who you're going to

(01:29:36):
hire to fill that void and to upgrade which you
think is a super Bowl caliber team?

Speaker 7 (01:29:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
Who could be next?

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Seven one, three, two, two five seven ninety will continue
to take your calls on these Texans, and we'll also
discuss who could be the next offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6 (01:30:01):
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Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Let's get back out to those phone lines. REGI, you're
up first. Good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:31:50):
Hey.

Speaker 11 (01:31:51):
They go on John and Brian. Hey, man, I want
to wish oh bits get every birthday as well. Uh
John and Brian.

Speaker 19 (01:31:57):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:31:57):
I wanted a original call when seven ninety first started
on this station here, and I've been on every every
one of the sports commentators calls and talk to everybody
from Charlie Pulllo to all those guys and even when
Greg and and Andy and Sean your first show also

(01:32:19):
with Madden, all those guys. Man, that is just a
tremendous name to hear this station driving the way it is.

Speaker 7 (01:32:25):
So let me get to what I've.

Speaker 11 (01:32:27):
Been putting out there, Sean, and you tell me what
you think you're And Brian, if someone taught you something
how to run an offense and the person was available,
would you hired that person? And I'm speaking of Kevin
someone and I know people been hitting me back time
all but he had DW A DUI. I'm like that

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has nothing to do with his coaching ability and running
an offense. Cliff kings Cliff Kingsberry learned under the system.
He's actually running from Kevin someone.

Speaker 23 (01:33:00):
While he was at Yule Bates. He took it to
takes to take and took it into the NFL.

Speaker 11 (01:33:04):
And not only that, the same guy we're talking about,
Cliff Kingsberry, the same guy Andy Reen went Donald and
learned what Patrick did we of in that offense.

Speaker 23 (01:33:14):
So I would hope the Tixon will put it aside
the good boy nature and give Kevin some of the
chance to uh to coach CJ through this and what
he needs to bring his offense into a good offense.

Speaker 8 (01:33:29):
What do you think?

Speaker 11 (01:33:29):
Sean and Black?

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
Thank Gradual, appreciate it. Go ahead, Brian, follow up, Gradual,
We appreciate it. Thanks for the nice station compliment.

Speaker 6 (01:33:37):
Brothers.

Speaker 7 (01:33:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
From everything I understand about Kevin, someone really smart football guy.
Obviously been at the college level. He was here in Houston,
he went to Texas A and M. I think it
was at Arizona State at one point, Arizona. That's Arizona. Sorry.
But also there's a side of Kevin someone and this
I mean, I've read it in reports, I've watched documentaries.

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
He likes to he likes to have some fun. Nothing
wrong with that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
There's nothing wrong with that. And again, everybody has their
own personal life. But I would question if you would
be able to get that, if that would affect his
business life, if you were to become the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
And Reggie, I don't think now just from my vanish,
I don't know. Hell, I don't even know if they're
considering him, if they'd interview him, I don't know. Does
he want to he last I wasn't either coordinator passing
game coordinator at Maryland or one of the schools in
a Big Ten as of recent didn't. I just isn't
he the coordinator somewhere?

Speaker 7 (01:34:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:34:33):
He was the co offensive coordinator Titans coach for Maryland. Maryland.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
There you go, so and we know someone has had
when he was the head coach that Houston, right, and
then when he went to Texan him he's had some
prodigious offenses. Make no mistake about it, Reggie, I don't
think the and I just from my people make mistakes.
I don't think that Kevin someone's the driving thing would

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affect anybody from interviewing interviewing him. Do you know some
maybe it would. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it's okay,
mistake can do it. But you know, he's already hired somewhere,
I mean with Maryland, and people still you know, hold
his football acumen in pretty high regard. So I don't
think that'd be the reason. The question is does he
have the philosophy and the way he plays offense? Does

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it fit with what Demiko wants to do and with
with the direction he and Nick Cassaria and they want
to go with the offense. I think it just comes
down to I mean, hell, I don't know if he's required,
if he's asked for an interview, or if they've requested it.
I mean, I mean, from what I've read there, his
name hasn't come up. But I don't think it's going
to be because of that. That would be I mean

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listen and if it was because that bring him in.
If that's the case, if you were going to interview
and bring him in and let him tell you what happened.
I'm always about that. Just be transparent in no secrets here. So,
but he does no offense and REGI I think it
comes down to with him is and the Texans would
be if it ever came to an interview, does he
philosophically in the NFL have the same What his offensive

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approach be something in the physical nature because the Texas
A and M. The one thing that got questioned was
late in seasons they physically wore down. They did, and
you know they'd start off five and zer and then
all a sudden they'd wear down and get pushed around
a little bit in the sec and get you know
when I said big, but you know he's in the
big ten now at Maryland. But I'm talking about when
he was at when he was at A and M,

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that they wore out a little bit physically against the
teams that could push him around a tad right, And
so that's something that I think that that is a
point that you'd want to address. But put him on
the board and do all the things you want to do.
I think it would just come down to do you
like his offensive approach and does he fit here? And
does it fit with what strouds And I don't know

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that answer. And if they don't interview him, I don't
think it just simply be because of some off field situation,
unless I'm crazy. But I'm always one of those guys.
Come in and tell me what happened. Don't let me
hear from somebody else. I want to hear from you.
So but he has been employed elsewhere and he knows football.
But I don't know what his interest or their interest
in him is. There is no interest, at least that's
the way piers.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
Ian Rappaport, Adam Schefter, a couple of local guys. They
listed these guys. He's not on the list that I saw.
He's not so the list that I've got. Obviously, Clint
Kubiak was one of the top, but he just got
a job with the Seattle Seahawks as their offensive coordinator.
Ohio State offensive coordinator Chip Kelly is the most popular name.

(01:37:30):
Los Angeles Rams passing game coordinator Nick Keyley. In Minnesota,
Vikings quarterback coach Josh McCown. Those are some of the
names that are continuing to pop up, so we'll see.
I would say that Chip Kelly is the most popular
name as of right now. He didn't he wasn't he
there when No, he was not there offense, that's what
he was. He was the UCLA head coach coach and

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then left. I mean, it was one of the odd
things we're seeing more of these days. But Chip Kelly
was the head coach at UCLA and left to go
be the offensive coordinator for Allhio State and this is
his first year doing it, and they won the national
championship because Bill O'Brien was the offensive coordinator. Took Boston and.

Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
That job wouldn't have been open if Bill stays there,
because Bill then went take the job of Boston College,
so it opened it up and ship there. I think
the method to that is maybe Chip didn't feel like
UCLA was what he wanted, so with the offensive coordinator job,
get paid what a couple million bucks to go do that,
and you know, post your score and then turn around

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and have five other places, whether it's NFL or college
football interested in you as a head coach. And I
don't really know if Chip wants a future as a
head coach at a bigger program in college, or if
he wants to get back in the NFL like he
did when he was in Philly.

Speaker 6 (01:38:40):
Phill.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
So now you know you're gonna play fast paced and
you're gonna play work quick and play fast paced. And
the one there's a misconception about guys like Chip Mike Leach.
God rest his soul in Chip Kelly. And we had
a call and it was in talking about that, and
I think it was biscuit. The one thing about Chip Kelly,
these guys want to run the ball. Ohio State ran
the ball, so they do what they want to spread

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you different, Oh yeah, they want to run the ball now.
But he also wants to back and past, you know,
past catching and stuff. So listen, play fast and you
know he's on turbo all the time, rolling right. So
there is that because Leech always tell me, because Sean
and Lane Kiven they want to run it. That they
do when they get Remember when Judkins within old Miss
like led the nation before he transferred to you know

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to Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
Hell, he was a monster at ole Miss. They do
want to run it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:29):
The coaches that are in the spread and you know
that that fast paced offense because they know you can't
get to a certain point if you don't run it
and play physical. So I tell why wouldn't you have
Chip Kelly in for an interview at least and let
him talk?

Speaker 6 (01:39:43):
For that's my thing.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
So it costs you a plane flight if you do.
And this has to be a great hire, So it
can't be one of those Okay, if you got to
sift through twelve dudes to get somebody to stand up
on that board and tell you here's how we're doing it,
here's what I want to do, make the presentation tour.
When he walks out of the meeting, say that feels great, right,
But if you're questioning, okay, I like him, but I

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don't know bring him in. Yeah, what they can afford
an interview of the price of an interview. So I
want to find because you know what that next to
the last guy or that last guy you bring in
that you had questions.

Speaker 6 (01:40:16):
About, may be the one. Yeah, could be the one.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
And what would happen if is thinking outside the box?
Somebody who isn't hasn't done it thirty years and somebody
maybe it's somebody who's got a football background in football
and with with a coordinator somewhere else, or he's been
a quarterback coach or a wide receiver coach, and if
you question, bring him in because one of those guys
may jump off the charts and say he just needs
an opportunity. So I'm all for it, and I think

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that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
I don't know if there's an unpopular take or not.
I'm actually glad Clint Kubiak is going to the Seattle Seahawks.
I'm so over the Shanahan scheme offensively, and I know
you know that way more than I do. But just
from everything that I've seen over the last.

Speaker 6 (01:40:55):
There's a lot of that tree floating around. I know
the branches are wide in the NFL. Can we get
somebody off the Sean McVay tree.

Speaker 5 (01:41:01):
I thought you're gonna stay off the Sean Salisbury tree.
Same tree, actually same, the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
They're gonna do the same right, But isn't it in
a little I feel like the Sean McVay is more innovative.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
And the way, well, they've had a little bit more
with that zone scheme and stuff. They've had a little
bit more. Everybody wants to run the ball like the
forty nine ers do. McCaffrey's they just do, but they've
had a little bit more with the rams. With Stafford,
you're not gonna run as much RPL because he's more

(01:41:34):
of a pocket guy. You're not gonna and the versatility
and Stroud similar to to to Stafford, they can get
you to nine yards, but the majority of this stuff's
gonna be off play action in the pocket. So the
question is who is who is that philosophy? But I,
I mean, I like a mix. See I come from
the school of I like vertical push. I like the
Saints horizontal with Sean Payton because I think making getting

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completely important.

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
I like taking.

Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
I'm gonna. I want to play aggressive, but smartly aggressive.
And part of playing aggressive for me is making sure
that Saquon Barkley touches the ball a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
I'll deal with it. He can rest in the off season.
So I want to run it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
But there's so many different ways you look at Andy
Mean Hunt, Pachucko kind of doing their thing. But when
the game's all over, seventy four yards and a touchdown
and important third down stuff, I'm a situational football guy.

Speaker 7 (01:42:24):
Goes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
I could care less about all that, and I think
that some of the guys that are going to interview
somebody will knock him out of their chair, right. But
I would never go in with any any thought process
of that's my I want to wait till the guy
comes out of the interview that he's my guy, not
going into it because his reputation somewhere else, whether that
be he likes to throw it all the time, he
likes to run all the time. I need to hear him.
I he's gonna approach it, and then will that guy
apply it when it's not a meeting room and you're

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trying to impress the head coach with your presentation. If
you got a deep philosophy, I'm under the Andy Reid
point of bring four or five different philosophies in. We
got a vertical quarterback who can throw it. We got
an accurate quarterback, we got a run game, got a
tied in, you can maneuver and zone, and man, I
we we're past the point. I'd hope to be a
one scheme thing, because if you're a one trick pony,

(01:43:06):
one trick, one scheme guy, to me, I'll figure you out.
I will figure your ass out. And if you're a
one trick pony on defense, I will find a way
to maximum I will. I will just destroy you. You
might get me early, but at some point in time
I'm going to get you right. So hopefully they'll find that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Guy seven seven nineties and number to join. Phone lines
jammed up. We'll get to everybody next. Don't go anywhere.
Continue to talk about theas Houston Texans for the Seawn
Salisbury show continued and no offensive line that's dominant, No
super Bowl. If you don't get that taken care of,

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you'll continue to be an early out in January. So
hopefully they will obviously still waiting on the Alex Bregman stuff,
spend some time, but uh, you know, over the weekend
doing the the fest out at the ballpark and it
was great with the Astros and grateful for the Astros
in the time they gave us with a bunch of
players with the manager Joe A.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
Spotta, looking forward to that and they'll be here before
you know it. And great competition and getting people healthy.
I know Astros fans are pretty fired up about that.
And congrats to Kelvin Sampson and his team and I
know there's a long way to go, there'll be more
losses for teams in the country. But to go in
Allen Field House against Kansas and beat them in a
couple overtimes and do what they do. I love a

(01:44:22):
team that can mut around and beat you in the
sixties and also beach in the nineties. Kelvin Samson's team's
real as it has been since he's been here and
turned it around and every single year now they're in
national power. Let's get out to the phones, get to Andy, Andy,
welcome in, man. What's happening?

Speaker 7 (01:44:36):
Oh? Not much, guys.

Speaker 24 (01:44:38):
Yeah, well you knew when you heard Thursday that the
Jets we're looking at Jared Johnson and then Friday slow
it's gone. Then happily Friday, I'm thinking Jared Johnson's going
to be the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 (01:44:54):
You think.

Speaker 5 (01:44:55):
I think they may look at it and he may
interview with the I don't know, with Aaron Glenn Jets
to I actually think they're going to go with more experience,
not that not that he can't handle it, and he's
had experience as an assistant and unless you saw what
you needed to see from him and his continue I
like his relationship with c J.

Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
Stroud.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
Are they ready to be the play caller? And I
think Gerard is going to get that chance at some point.
But I get the hunch just from what I've read,
it feels to me like they're going to find somebody
who's called plays before. And I don't care how old
that person is. He gonna be seventy or twenty five.
But I feel like that may be where they're leaning.
And if we're wrong, then we get a local kid
who's got a great future in front of him and

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Gerard Johnson, we'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:45:36):
Well.

Speaker 24 (01:45:37):
My problem is with that is I don't think you
want to lose both your quarterback coach and you're offer
coordinator with us, your second year guy with CJ.

Speaker 18 (01:45:48):
I you know, I don't think that he.

Speaker 24 (01:45:51):
Had to fire on Friday, but it's just just coming
after hearing about Gerard Jets interested in him. I don't
think Georg Johnson is going to be here if he's
not the offensive coordinator. I think he'll get hired as
an offensive coordinator. So then you gotta keep eye on
that for sure. Yeah, in this meal, but with the

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offensive line, I keep reading all these things people, Oh
we got to get new Hey, you're stuck with Mason,
Howard and Tunswell next year after that, tons On, Howard's
their contracts up, Mason's got is going till twenty twenty six,
twenty five. I mean, he's got two more years on
his contract. Ain't nobody trading for their contracts for those

(01:46:36):
three guys.

Speaker 18 (01:46:37):
So I don't know what happened. I think it was
more mental this year with that offensive line than it
was physical. But you got that hire whoever the offensive
line coaches is going to be huge for this team
moving forward because you're you're stuck with those three starters

(01:46:59):
and someone is going to have to get something out
of them and fix the issue on the offensive line
because they cost Bobby Sloweck, the offensive line coach, and
the assistant offensive line coach their jobs this year.

Speaker 5 (01:47:15):
Yeah, Andy, I'm and I appreciate the call to me
the number one thing, whether it's physical or mental, both
combination of it, and a great point. I think that
what happens is the mental if you're not blocking the
right guy or you're confused mentally, whether that's offensive line
teaching or whether that's the lack of urgency from the

(01:47:37):
offensive line whether it's they don't they're not you know,
didn't get the offensive line coach, didn't get buying, whatever
it is. But the mental it's not physical that leads
to bad mental A lot of times that position. It's
the mental part or the emotional part of you know,
the confusion at the line scrimmage. That what happens is
if you're mentally confused, you've physically become it's almost a paralysis.

(01:48:02):
By the analysis. It just is you're like, oh my gosh,
and then your head swimming. The best player and I
try to get into people said the best, whether it's
a hitter or a pitcher, or whether in quarterback or
wide receiver or right guard, when there's clutter physically or
not as good and when there's not and you're thinking

(01:48:23):
freely physically, you're better. So I do believe it starts
from the mental side there, but it permeates into the
physical side because if in fact, you don't do that,
and if you know who your blocking, the rest I
don't want to say is easy.

Speaker 7 (01:48:38):
But if you.

Speaker 5 (01:48:38):
Understand that scheme what you're trying to get accomplishing, and
the scheme's right, and you're blocking the right people, they're
going to beat you once in a while, but they're
not going to beat you as often as they did
this year. So to me, that's got to be the
teaching on the mental and emotional side that will help
the physical side, because I don't think you can play
great football or great any sport with clutter where the
mentals kind of blah. Eventually the mental will eliminate you,

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and that's happened. So as far as Girad Johnson'd be
great if he gets a chance, I'm wondering if they're
going to go more experienced since the guy they hired originally,
Bobby Slok, was his first time calling plays as well
for two years.

Speaker 6 (01:49:14):
So it's like anything.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
If you get a defensive coach that plays a four
to three and it doesn't work out, you know what
you do.

Speaker 6 (01:49:19):
You go hire a three to four guy the next time.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
If you get a screamer as a head coach and
it doesn't work out, then next time you'll go get
a more.

Speaker 6 (01:49:25):
Calm Guy's ahead, because that's kind of the way it is.

Speaker 5 (01:49:27):
So you had an offensive coordinator that wasn't experienced but
learned it on the job here and now he's gone.
Will you go with a guy who has not called
plays before, or a guy who's called him two or
three years or twenty years. So that'll be interesting. Let's
we got time for one more quick one. Let's get
to Rick. Rick, what's up man?

Speaker 6 (01:49:44):
How you doing?

Speaker 21 (01:49:45):
Yay?

Speaker 22 (01:49:45):
First of all, happy you do your Sean, Thank you.
It's January twenty seventh. But this is my first call Sean.
If we look at last year, this time, Bobby Slowik
was getting interviews for head coaching jobs. He was high
regarded in the organization, People on talk shows saying, hey,
we have to keep this guy.

Speaker 7 (01:50:05):
A year later, different situation, obviously, My.

Speaker 22 (01:50:09):
Question to you is really twofold number one in your view,
what do you think happened? And the other one is
what is the dynamics of a head coach who either goes, Hey, look,
I believe in this guy. I've worked with him, I've
seen him under fire. This is more about the victim
of circumstances around him. First, Hey, he has to go

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What are the factors that usually lead to which of
those two choices?

Speaker 7 (01:50:36):
I'll take time, do me a favor.

Speaker 5 (01:50:38):
You cut out at the beginning the first one. Tell
me your first one again, just like can compare.

Speaker 22 (01:50:43):
Yeah, yeah, the first the first question was what do
you think happened? Why do you think the change was made?
And then the second one is as I described, how
the head coach makes.

Speaker 5 (01:50:52):
That discres exactly I heard the second, Yeah, I appreciate
you man, thank you, and appreciate the neighbors wishes. I think,
first off, the the reason it happened is they took
a step back, and it's just not on Sundays. To me,
when this happened, it's something that's philosophical differences. It happens
that that that that happened throughout the year. I don't
think this was knee jerk. I think the way it

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ended last year made him go in thinking, Okay, how
are we going to how are we going to do
this h and improve our football team with all these
weapons and then to be able to overcome injuries and
keep the machine going, which they weren't able to do
offensively this year. They just weren't defense got better, offense did.
Offense did not keep up. They were the they were
the weak link to this football team consistency wise. And

(01:51:35):
what goes into those decisions is, uh, you know, the
consistency on the practice field, how you're teaching, and it's
an everyday grind, and do I think it had you
probably could have gone another year slow and survived it.
But Dimico decided that that wasn't didn't want to just
survive it. And that tells me his expectations aren't just
playoffs or super Bowl because they're just playoffs. Go with it,

(01:51:55):
you've been you've done it twice. The process that goes
into doing it is just simple. You evaluate the coaches
like you do the players, and if they're not, if
they're not, if the coach isn't getting at it, and
you almost hold him to a higher standard because you're
with a coach or coach and one guy with one
player as a position coach, he's got a bunch of
dudes under his umbrella, and you want to see improvement

(01:52:16):
from all of them. And if you feel like you've
hit a ceiling, you've got to move on. And my
gut tells me that that's what he felt like. He
felt like that they were stalled in somewhat a purgatory.
We'll get to the playoffs, but that's not enough because
that's fourteen teams that do that, and I think that's
how part.

Speaker 6 (01:52:32):
Of the discipion was.

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
Well, I mean we've talked about it, Sean, evaluate everyone,
evaluate everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:52:38):
That's what they did, as they should.

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
Two offensive assistants went just the same day as Bobby Sloks.
So it's not just the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 (01:52:48):
The offense.

Speaker 5 (01:52:49):
I believe the offense held for whatever reason, and they
felt that the coach had something to do with it.
The coordinator. I felt that the offense held.

Speaker 6 (01:52:58):
Them back this year.

Speaker 9 (01:53:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
Again, the part of it and the lack. I didn't
think it was aggressive as normal. I think when they
played fast times and aggressive and Bobby's local learn lesson,
he'll call plays against somewhere, but instead of instead of waiting,
I think that that's important.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
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This is the Shawn Salisbury Show. Q. You're up first,
Good morning, Good.

Speaker 15 (01:55:17):
Morning fellas, how y'all doing? Happy birthday? Brother biscuits say, man,
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A couple of nominees. I like to run across shop
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Speaker 15 (01:55:29):
I know it's a guy who's been out of coaching
since twenty nineteen, but I know for a fact he
turns the line that had not as many big names
as the Texans have now into one of the greatest
lives of all time.

Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
Now this guy coach John.

Speaker 15 (01:55:45):
Gesick, Marks Stepnoska, Eric Williams, Larry Allen, you know, just
to name a few to some foot he had. They
got three titles with those guys. And his name is
Hudson Hawk. Why the respect He teaches the smash my
philosophy that we need because that's what they did in

(01:56:06):
the mid nineties. They smashed my I can see us
using our back now the same way the Cowboys used
him the smit back then. He also had a small,
whiry tight end that like what we have, and he
learned how to, you know, coach the line up to
use them.

Speaker 7 (01:56:25):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:56:25):
I'm a firm believer that experience means a lot and
respect now for guys looking for somebody to teach a
philosophy for a run, blocking and scheming Hudson Hawkins by
Father Bess. Our scene now offensive coordinator is a little
different from me. I think that maybe a guy who

(01:56:49):
hasn't been really given a chance. But I'm looking at
like a master grasshopper kind of thing from come Fu
well being he learned under you know, Big Red, and
you know, you know, I think he's really hungry for
a good offensive coordinator john Way. He'd have a lot

(01:57:10):
of weapons to use. Plus the fact that he helped
develop a young Patrick Mahomes when he was there, and I.

Speaker 7 (01:57:18):
Think just his hunger alone would would be what we need.

Speaker 15 (01:57:23):
Plus it's a different kind of philosophy against He's not
one of these spread out wide, you know, wide open
kind of guys either, but he has experience with winning
and with developing a young quarterback. Now, I think if
you brought those two guys in, I'm not saying they
would be the you know, the hell to all the answers,

(01:57:45):
but philosophy, we need a line a line coach that's
tough and rough and as the man's respect. And he
had a lot of less than what we have now.
As far as Libb, none of those guys that I
named were first round draft choices. He coached them up
and they became the most doubled line in football.

Speaker 7 (01:58:05):
And you don't forget how to coach.

Speaker 15 (01:58:07):
So I think if they brought him in and let him,
you know, work with those guys, they could be the
line that we need. And if you punishing a team
from running the ball a lot, it makes past blocking
a lot easier.

Speaker 7 (01:58:21):
And Troy was famous for the five foot you know,
the five.

Speaker 15 (01:58:25):
Step drop, get the ball out quick, and with that
kind of line we would flourish on our offense with
the receivers we had with nik.

Speaker 7 (01:58:36):
O and Tank and those guys like that. So just
my thoughts that.

Speaker 6 (01:58:40):
I'll listen to what y'all fellers think about that appreciate
joji q.

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
Well, I've known Hudson Howe since nineteen seventy nine nineteen eighty.
He was He helped recruit me in. He coached a
bunch of all Americans at USC. He was a trojan
and he's, uh, you know, coach. The Cowboys offense of
line was as good as there is in the country.
If there was a Hall of Fame for assistance, he's
you would have to consider him. He is a phenomenal

(01:59:07):
And if you want accountability, coach Hawk's been as good
as we've ever had. The question is in retirement does
he want to do it, it's more would he?

Speaker 9 (01:59:17):
But he?

Speaker 5 (01:59:18):
I mean ogq' is right. Hudson Hawks as good as
we've ever had, one of the five best I've ever
seen at SC. And he's coach great players.

Speaker 6 (01:59:25):
And I can tell you this.

Speaker 5 (01:59:26):
He has got fire in his belly. Man always has.
So I've known him for forever. It feels like, and
I love coach Hawk and I think he's one of
the very best technicians of all time. And if you've
got an excuse, don't bring it to him because he
don't play it. But he's coach Munnos Van Horn and
a keep fand a bunch of guys. And I was here,

(01:59:47):
Roy Foster and Bruce Matthews and done most were all
first rounders. I mean there is He's as good as
there is and available depending on if he still wants
to do it full time. And then the other side
is that I don't know. I think you mentioned Eric
the enemy, you know, eb is the way he's had
the opportunity a couple of places and has moved on
what he was in Washington, right and they moved on,

(02:00:08):
and then he was at UCLA and they moved on
from that. So the whole, like we've always said Andy was.
And you know how I feel about Eric Beenemy. He's
Meyer and I love him, but Andy was the ones
that made that go in and in Kansas City, he's
always been the play caller. Great help from Eric being
to me. And I think Eric Beenemy has coached some
great players and he does love the run game. So

(02:00:30):
you could do a lot worse than interviewing him, and
I'd be anxious to see. And some players can't handle
the Enemy's toughness. I don't know about here, but in
the past, some people can't handle that he coaches you hard,
and that's a bummer because that's well, that's but that
society has shifted a little bit, and so is football
in sports. How you coach him?

Speaker 6 (02:00:47):
So I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (02:00:49):
Demiko has two or three guys, and I'm sure there's
ten guys in mind, but I'm sure two or three
that you're going to have to be better than the
guy he has heavily in mind to get the gig,
because you don't ever go into this situation not having
a few guys that you really like. But remember, do
not hire a guy you don't love, right, find a
guy you love and you better make sure that offensive
line guy or that offensive coordinator finds an offensive line

(02:01:10):
coach that works in cahoots with him together, because that
will be paramount that those two are on the same page.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
And again, here's some of the names that have already
been rumored to be in the mix for the open
offensive coordinator position for the Texans. Ohio State offensive coordinator
Chip Kelly, Los Angeles Rams passing game coordinator Nick Kaylee,
Minnesota Vikings quarterback coach Josh McCown. Clint Kubiak was rumored
to be in the mix as well, but he is
now the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks, so we

(02:01:40):
will see. Oh and then also can't forget quarterbacks coach
Gerard Johnson. We'll see if he will get his shot
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Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
Texans fire their offensive cordiator Bobby Slowick. Your Super Bowl
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Speaker 14 (02:03:13):
How y'all fellas going, Hey, I love what the young
man was saying before before I got on about the
offensive line coach, and we definitely need a fiery offensive
line coach, someone that can put a little heat on
these fellows to put them in the right position to
do the right thing. Now some I know you played
football in the NFL, and my thing is we also

(02:03:35):
need a quarterback coach, a better quarterback coach. Then they
put it that way because CJ is a good quarterback
who can be a great quarterback, but he has to
be coached up better than you being coached up right now,
because there are some things that's going on, uh that
we've been watching less, say eight nine games, but when
was eight nine games in the season that he should

(02:03:56):
have been coached up a lot better on how to
slide his protection over, how to adjust some of these
protection and be able to slide in the pocket and
naturally get when you're out the pocket, throw the ball away,
don't take a sack by running out of bound. I
mean this, that's what your quarterback coach is. Therefore, to
help him see the game, understand the game as a

(02:04:18):
young quarterback, and teach him how to become a better quarterback.
And I don't think I don't know the quarterback coach,
Namy Johnsons heat I don't think he's the right quarterback
coach with DJ at this time. Just like Bobby, it
was time to move on from him, I think it's
time to move on from the quarterback coach as well.

(02:04:39):
We need to see them quarterback coach in there that
can help him understand the game. Help him understand the protection.
I have him understand how to adjust, have his receivers
on page where he can make the audibles for the
hot reads. There are a lot of things that I'm
seeing that he needs that extra help. He not get

(02:05:00):
because we were seeing the same thing on Day one
the day sixteen. Because one thing that was happening al
though in the second half, and I don't know if
they do the stats on this, teams started to realize
if we blessed c day in the third in the
second half, on third down, he's going either get sat
or it's going to be a h The player is

(02:05:20):
not going to be uh a good play at all.
But and that's where the protection was. Uh, we didn't
have great protection on them blitz. And that's coaching. And
I know, uh Demiko is a good young head coach,
but he needs some great assistance under him. Because you
look at every great coach, they have good office coordinators,

(02:05:43):
good de good coordinators, and they also have position coaches
that are very good.

Speaker 7 (02:05:49):
I mean not the.

Speaker 14 (02:05:52):
Learning how to become a receiver coach or off of
the line coach or quarterback coach. We don't need that pradition.
Young man, here, we need somebody in the season, you
know what they're doing, who can help this off of
the line and help this young quarterback become the best
they can be. Because I have I have trulyague high
expectation for there.

Speaker 15 (02:06:10):
Now.

Speaker 14 (02:06:10):
Granted I flew up there the Kansas City. I was
hoping that we were gonna do somethings. Hey, the only
thing a cold on it was mates that I would
fall the mates up the marchoes trying to keep them
bab off from uh getting.

Speaker 16 (02:06:24):
Chopped off in the future.

Speaker 14 (02:06:25):
But anyway, I see that game, you got to play
the referees and Kansas City. I mean, it's obvious that
we're gonna have to also stop making dumb mistakes some
of the appenanties that we're doing on defense. I mean, man,
you cannot do these dumb things. That's where coaching come
in as well. You know, you got to have coaches

(02:06:46):
to let them know you got to play smart. You
got to be if you want to win against great teams,
you got to play smart. It's not just fit enough
to just go out there and rehab it and do
dumb things and put yourself your team in the bastest.

Speaker 6 (02:07:00):
Win the game, appreciate you would got to get rong.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
Yeah, I'll say this. I hold Girod Johnson in high regard.
I've been around and watching him teach younger kids and
high school kids, and and I think he does a
good job. He's a great, he's a great, he's got
a bright future. Now, I'm not in the meeting rooms
every day. Like I said, I always like to prefas
that because you know what we all judge from afar,
what we see and how they're you know, talking with

(02:07:27):
each other. Gerrod's past. I've been a fan, and I
think he's a good guy, and I hold him in
high regard. If you're just asking me, let me compartmentalize
move that aside, I mean, haven't been around it and
coached it as well. Yeah, I you know, I I
don't know what's going on there. I know my philosophy
and how I coach it. Whether it's the same as
some are different than some, that's fine, But I'm not
in their meeting room. And how I teach him to

(02:07:48):
watch tape and their response and how you get them
to buy into what you're teaching mechanically without making wholesale changes,
but tightening up mechanics and all those things that go with,
you know, getting him to play. Coordinator's jobs to call
plays for the whole team. Quarterback coach's job is to
make sure your guys ready, and it's because of him.
You're winning because of him and you're not losing because

(02:08:09):
of him. I have simple philosophy. I don't believe you
put less on quarterbacks. I think you put more. And
I do apply this to quarterbacks. I've always been the
more I'm comfortable knowing everything at the line of scrimmage.
I'm not going to teach C day Strout anymore how
to throw a dig route. He knows how to throw that,
he's elite thrower of the football, but certain ways to
get to that. It's my thing is not what the

(02:08:31):
destination is. The destination you want it accurate, and the
rest of it. My job is to take care of
all the details, so to clear his mind from clutter.
So when he is if I'm coaching him, to get
him to play, do his thing and to maximize whatever
it is he's got, and he's got a lot, and
that's my job to clear I'm supposed to take on
the clutter. Let me take on his quarterback coach. I'll

(02:08:52):
take on all that, but I do got to prime
him for everything, and then if everything doesn't come good,
it's bonus. But I know this in my career, when
I came to the line of scrimmage and knew everything
that was going on, it was much easier to operate
physically everything that your coach wanted you to. I would,
simply for me, I would if I was coaching CJ. Stroud,

(02:09:14):
we wouldn't there would there would be no stoner training.
And if I was the coordinator, I would put more coordinator.
I'm talking about if I was the coordinator to the
quarterback coach, both of them, I would I would put
more responsibility the line of scrimmage on him because what
happens is think about this, and I've used this analogy before,
is that when you take a test in school on
a subject you hate what ends up happening, you have,

(02:09:37):
but you need to get a good grade on this class.
You study to get out of the class. Yeah, no doubt,
not to memory to not. You study to get through
it and hope you come out on the other side.
I'm teaching the road, the the journey, and it's going
to be paved and unpaved along the way. The results,
I promise you with all my heart will come. If

(02:09:57):
offensive line, you got to have teammates. It's not an
individual sport, but if you're doing the right things mechanically
and your mind's clear of clutter with your ability. Now
some guys just don't have the ability to thinks he does,
and it's a good place to start when you're a
quarterback coach or a coordinator coaching CJ. Stroud is that
we're going to get you at the line of scrimmage
to where I don't need a coach to tell me
when there's four week I want my quarterback in charge

(02:10:19):
of directing the protection to his comfort level and everybody
adjust to him. So for me, it's not the physical prowess.
It's tighten up mechanics so you don't miss certain throws
and do those things. But I want ce Day Stroud,
if I was coaching mechanically, we'd be sound during the
season so he didn't have to think about his mechanics
during the fall. And if you're coaching him in the fall,

(02:10:39):
you get him ready. The physical stuff's just going to
naturally come. It's the stuff of what they're trying to
do to me. How are they defending me? And I
am a stickler for that. Doesn't matter what grade you're in.
I'm teaching my guys at every level to know, because
the more you know, the less they got on. You

(02:11:00):
take a test, and if you've got a test, but
if it's your major in school and that's what you
want to do fore life. If you want to be
a history teacher, you're in US history when you're not
just trying to take the test to get out of it.
You know what you're doing. You're taking the test to learn.
The grade doesn't matter, it's all the stuff that leads
up to the grade. The preparation. The grade's going to
take care of itself because I'm prepared when the test
actually hits. My number one thing with quarterbacks in anything

(02:11:22):
we do off the field on the field, mechanics against
the defense is one, let's find the conflict. If I'm
only looking for answers without knowing the conflict, and that's
lack of study, I got no shot. My physical prowess.
I'll be able to make some play CJ. I'll make plays,
but I want it to be to where once I
know the conflict on the field, off the field, at

(02:11:43):
a restaurant, when I'm ordering food on a radio show.
When I know the conflict, I'll get you to the answers.
So for me, the next step to his career is
command at the line of scrimmage. I don't want to
center calling protections. I want to clear the clutter because
when it's in your hands, man that now there's accountability
and everybody rallies around and you'll be the one telling
the wide receiver, which I need him to be. The

(02:12:05):
guy who is third year in the league. It's a
moving year for CJ. Stroud to have no story, and
you'll get better every year. Not everybody learns it right
off the bat, but I want him knowing more at
the line of scrimmage that I trust him to turn
a game over to him. That if he can call
a game without an offensive coordinator being on the sidelines,
that's when I know CJ. Stroud's at the next level.
That's what I teach simply, But it's simple. You want

(02:12:26):
to look complex everybody else simple simple mechanics. It's like
a golf swinger, a baseball swing, repeatable, repeatable mechanics that
you can sustain under duress and if we could teach you,
if he gets to that level, there will be no
stopping him. Everybody else got to take care of their position,
but find the conflict. I got answers for you, and

(02:12:47):
that's how I approach you with him. I'm not backing
off the mental approach with him. I'm actually putting more
on him, which will clear the clutter in the fall.
Because you go to the line of scrimmgs and three
different guys, you're thinking three different things.

Speaker 6 (02:12:59):
That's not a recipe for success.

Speaker 7 (02:13:00):
No, it's not.

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The Shawn Salsbury Show continues and it no no now,
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Speaker 7 (02:14:28):
Good morning, hey Man, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (02:14:30):
How you guys are doing?

Speaker 6 (02:14:31):
Good man? Sign your mind with these Texans.

Speaker 7 (02:14:34):
Hey man.

Speaker 8 (02:14:35):
You know, I'm you know, I don't know a lot
about drafting and all that. You know, I'm just saying,
you know, maybe Nick need to go in this drafting
and draft another offensive Lineman. I mean, I don't know.
He might have got these two wrong. Maybe he might
have got these drafts couple uh offensive linements that he's drafted.
Maybe he got him wrong, you know, and maybe they
just need seasoning because they're young. But if only he

(02:14:58):
knows that. But hey, I feel good if he went
in the drafting and finding another offensive line and one
that we really really know is maybe in the top five.

Speaker 7 (02:15:07):
If he's able to do that.

Speaker 8 (02:15:09):
Now far as the offensive line coaches and the offensive
head coach, I need some seasoning in here, man.

Speaker 7 (02:15:18):
I don't want them to.

Speaker 8 (02:15:19):
I don't want them to do what they did.

Speaker 7 (02:15:21):
You know, bring in guys.

Speaker 8 (02:15:22):
It's nice to get guys chnce.

Speaker 7 (02:15:24):
But a lot of times that don't work out.

Speaker 8 (02:15:26):
They're just not ready to lead me in and they
just not ready, you know. Bring I don't know who
they can find, but find some guys that has a
reputation for being real good offensive line coaches and offensive coach.
And I said over the weekend, I heard y'all already
call him mame. I do like Chip Kelly. I saw
what Chip Kelly did with Phil a def he over there. Perhaps,

(02:15:48):
Kip Kelly, if you can get Chip Kelly. I understand
other teams are happening too. If you can't get Tip Kelly.
Tip Kelly might bring a couple of them offensive line
coaches with him. More than likely he will, and then
the whole probably solved. I tell somebody else I like to,
you know, maybe give him a phone call and ask
me if he can recommend anybody. Hell, I wouldn't have

(02:16:09):
a problem with Mike mart Man because he ran the
greatest Seawn Turkin. That was one dang good dog gone offense.
You know what I'm saying. I mean, he's seventy three.
If he don't want to get off the couch, maybe
he can recommend some you know, some really good office
of coaches that coached under him in nineteen ninety nine
with the Rams, you know, but some season coaches man

(02:16:31):
that has a reputation.

Speaker 19 (02:16:32):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:16:33):
You know, That's what Gary Kobiac did when he came
here years ago. He brought his buddies here and some
of them still in the league right now. But they
weren't worth squad back then with the Texans because they
didn't know what they were doing, you know. And that's
kind of what happened here with Bobby and I like
Bobby a lot, you know, but if you're not ready,
you're not ready. One thing I like about the Texans

(02:16:54):
they have let me know that they are out to win.
If you can't do the job, you got to.

Speaker 7 (02:16:58):
Go some man.

Speaker 8 (02:17:00):
The owners just want to feel a seat the checks.
They want to win, and I like that. Man. Hey,
y'all have a good winn.

Speaker 4 (02:17:07):
Thank you, John, real quick, Sean, before we get to
Mike on the heights. Yeah, I love our callers. I
respect our callers and their opinions. We got a Mike
Martz is not coming out of He's not going to
coach Hudson. Howk not going to coach. These guys are old.
I they have been fantastic at what they've done in

(02:17:28):
their career, but it is time for a new and
innovative offense for this organ.

Speaker 5 (02:17:34):
My philosophy about that isn't isn't that age has anything.
Tom Moore is still coaching and he's in his mid eighties.

Speaker 6 (02:17:41):
That to me, that's not.

Speaker 5 (02:17:42):
That's like I said, there's plenty of thirty five year
olds that think they've invented the forward pass, that can't
think their way out of that are highly overrated, that
are coaching in this league that I've watched that if
they they can't think outside their own little box of
their their system, and so this this, oh we got
to go to youth. I'll screw that. You go to
youth if it's the best choice, you go to middle.

(02:18:05):
For me, I'm not putting any age on it at all.
Fifty year old seven Pete Carroll's going back to coach
dude in his seventies and he'll have more energy than
the thirty year old he hires to coach on the staff.
I'm not saying the thirty five year old's not good.
Hire that guy. If it's been Luke what McVeigh did
when he first came in, anybody, and is he ready
for this?

Speaker 6 (02:18:22):
Thirty one?

Speaker 5 (02:18:23):
I mean Boom and a bunch of veterans that played
with the Ramsey. He got them all together, former players,
and by the time they came out of that meeting,
they're like, this is the guy. So age for me
has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 21 (02:18:33):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:18:33):
The energy level with a Pete Carroll, Hudson Howkes eighty
two years old my question. That's why I said, does
Hudson how At eighty two want to come out and
do it now. If if he's active in the coaching,
and I'm sure he's doing consulting for some people, he'd
be great. But the question is, is he want the grind?
At eighty two and with Mike Martz he's been doing it,
does he want the grind? North Turner? How about nor Turners? All?
North turn is an offensive coordinator, a Hall of fame?

(02:18:56):
Does norv want to do it?

Speaker 6 (02:18:57):
One more?

Speaker 5 (02:18:58):
Give it one more go? He was the offensive when
the Cowboys are winning their Super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (02:19:02):
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:19:03):
And then there's gonna be some thirty something into twenty
something and forty something guys out there. For me, it
has nothing to do with age. It has to do
with energy and can you get buy in? Sometimes my
grandpa gives me four gave me more buy in than
my buddy. So just the age has nothing to do
with it. When it comes to coaching, it has everything
to do with the energy and can can you relate?

Speaker 6 (02:19:25):
And can you get buying?

Speaker 5 (02:19:26):
There's some eighty year olds that are cooler than thirty
year old, and there's some thirty year olds that needs
some eighty year old in them.

Speaker 6 (02:19:31):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (02:19:32):
A pause that you get what I'm saying, so age
has had to do with experience, energy and the passion
to want to not just coach and get paid coach
to win a championship.

Speaker 4 (02:19:44):
Yeah, so a little more on what I was saying
by it's time for new and new not I know
what you were saying, Mike Marten, HUDs and how haven't
been in football since twenty eighteen?

Speaker 7 (02:19:53):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (02:19:54):
That's all too long.

Speaker 5 (02:19:55):
I mean, hell, Colin Kaepernick still wants to play quarterback.
I ain't getting a sniff either.

Speaker 4 (02:20:00):
But what I'm saying is, these dudes haven't been in
football since for seven years.

Speaker 6 (02:20:04):
Now, do they even want to do it? I doubt it.
That's now?

Speaker 4 (02:20:08):
Is Tom Moore? You mentioned Tom Moore? Tom Moore have
been doing a really long time. He's still He's still
at least consulting in it for Tampa Bay. He's consulting.
He was at least he's doing something. These other guys,
they haven't been doing anything.

Speaker 5 (02:20:18):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (02:20:18):
They've had a phenomenal career. You go down the list
of what Mike Martz has done in his career. My goodness,
we've had him on the show, off the Charge. You
look at Hudson Holk and what he's done in his career.
These dudes are lifelong football guys, but they haven't been
in it because I'm assuming they're done with their career.

Speaker 5 (02:20:33):
Right because I would imagine the Mike Marts and Hudson
Hawks if they still were in it at the right price. Now, listen,
somebody offers you three million dollars to call plays. You
may listen for two years. I don't know, but there
comes a point in time when I don't want to
say checked out. But when you get to an age
group is I don't know, are they drawing their retirement.
They may have already taken it that. The point is
the passion to keep up on the daily ground doesn't

(02:20:54):
mean now when Hudson Helck was going out of dude,
and that's not a long time in between the six
seven years, but there's a lot of things that have
happened in seven years in football. And are you willing
as an old school guy, both of them that have
come up in their philosophies, are you willing to adjust
your philosophy? Just like I'd ask a thirty five year
old to do with energy, the key is can you
get buying? Can you get buying. Tom Moore got it

(02:21:17):
from Terry Bradshaw. He got it in Minnesota with us.
He got it from Peyton Manny got it from Tom
Brady because the way he went about his business. Nobody
even cared how old Tom Moore was. Dick Lebou was
coaching at eighty years old. So the point is it's
all about the enngin. And I don't even know if
those guys want to coach.

Speaker 6 (02:21:33):
At this stage.

Speaker 5 (02:21:33):
Do they can they deal with the athlete that's twenty five,
that the college athlete that thinks that they're going to
make more than you. I don't know, but I know
what our college are talking about. The way the success
they've had doesn't mean future success. Yeah, and it also
doesn't mean if they want to come back that type
of guy. I know what they're talking about. Listen, there's
no coach in the world that has been harder on

(02:21:54):
quarterbacks in his career than Mike Martz. Mike's a longtime
buddy of mine, recruited He's a North Turner guy. No,
I'm telling you there's no go up. And ask Trent Green,
Kurt Warner, Trent Green, and Mark Bulger, all who played
for him. And we've had we've had Mike on. Mike's phenomenal,
and he's opinionated, and he's a pain in the ass
in a good way. I love Mike, But I can

(02:22:15):
tell you this, if you're thin skinned, those guys said
on the practice or they were coached.

Speaker 6 (02:22:20):
I mean, I've watched my coach.

Speaker 5 (02:22:22):
But if you came out of a meeting room, you
went into a meeting room ill prepared for Mike marts
on a practice fielder on the sideline, you were getting
your ass handed to you on a platter. But you
know what, all three of them had great some of
their best success there Warner did. Why because they weren't
thin skin. They could handle tough love from a guy
like Mars. So what is it you're looking for?

Speaker 7 (02:22:43):
For me?

Speaker 5 (02:22:44):
It's the guy, not the number behind his age. But
you're right that long out of it? Can they adjust?

Speaker 6 (02:22:50):
Do they want to do? They even want to do it? Yeah,
that's my whole fight. They want to pick up the call.

Speaker 5 (02:22:54):
I mean if they did, I mean Hudson Hawk would
be I'd want him consulting on five different teams with
the way his knowledge is offensive line. So I don't
know at eighty two. Maybe it's time for them to
enjoy their life instead of coach the grind twenty hours
a day.

Speaker 6 (02:23:06):
Maybe they just like playing golf every day, and I
don't want to rind a bit.

Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
I got a bunch of buddies that are out at
Horseshoe Bay. Got seven coaches, eight coaches that are all
names that you know that if you over the last
three that are if they play golf, I mean, I'm
sure they come back for the right proNT but their
loving life, they've DoD They've done did their thing, and
they're loving playing golf every day with their group and
talking smack and having having a cold beer and enjoying
them stuff. And they all know x's and o's. Yeah,

(02:23:30):
probably better than some of the guys that you think
to see coaching now. But can they get out of
their own way? And that you got to be willing.
You got to adapt. And the problem with the big
young and the young sometimes doesn't want to adapt to
the older version, and the older guys don't want to
adapt to this new stuff. There's a whole bunch of
ways to skin it. The question is are you willing
to to to get out of your comfort zone to

(02:23:51):
change things to make your team better, because that's a coach.
My job is to make you better every day. Yeah,
every day. And if I'm not doing that, then you
got to place me. And I'd like to hope that
we'll find somebody to do it because and taking great
pride in making it. Neither one of those guys want
to be head coaches anymore. So you go out and
get guys, they'll find they'll find their guys. But it's
got to be It can't be a like higher, it's

(02:24:12):
got to be a love.

Speaker 6 (02:24:13):
Hire does wait, hang on just real quick? Oh uh.

Speaker 4 (02:24:18):
Oh, I just had it, damn it. This is what
I hate about Twitter at uh jackson what's his name?
Oh my god, Doug Moron?

Speaker 6 (02:24:24):
That his name, former Jacksonville head coach. Yeah, he just got.

Speaker 4 (02:24:30):
No uh oh, Mike Rabel hiring him headed up to
the Patriots. Moron is an offensive line coach. Marone is
a great offensive line teacher. And see there's the mix
of old school and new school together. You know Tom Kaughlin,
but he also did the new stuff. You get it
both from Vrabel. I think that's a solid higher because

(02:24:51):
you're looking for a guy who's a doesn't take any
crap and knows how to teach, not coach. Anybody can
yell and scream and blow a whistle. That's why when
people say are you a coach, he said, I'm a teacher. First,
I can yell.

Speaker 5 (02:25:03):
I can find anybody, any swinging unit, just to sit
there and yell and scream with people. Can you teach?
Doug Maroon's a great teacher and he comes highly regarded
from a lot of the old school the parcels of
the world. Sean p they love him, and I think
this is the hell of a hire by Vrabel. We
talk about young and old.

Speaker 4 (02:25:17):
The Bears hire twenty eight year old Declan Doyle as
their new offensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 (02:25:23):
That coming from me in Rapaport.

Speaker 5 (02:25:24):
Well, Tom Pellisario, Well they're hiring the guy's offensive coordinator too.

Speaker 6 (02:25:30):
He's twenty.

Speaker 5 (02:25:30):
There you go, twenty eight who will learn from Ben
Johnson and who won't call one play the whole year? Damn,
Ben Johnson will call them all. But he's priming this
guy at some point to do his thing, so you'll
get both ends of the spectrum. And if he's twenty eight,
if Ben Johnson likes him, that tells you he likes
the aggressiveness and when he sold him, when he met
with him, he sold him on it. Or he's had

(02:25:51):
a little relationship in the past, in a relationship in football,
relationship with him in the past. Good on him, But
he's not gonna call one play. Ben Johnson's calling him
all that's a guarantee. Could Girard Johnson be the next
OC for the Texans? We'll discuss the next Also continue
to take your call. Seven one three two point two
five seven ninety. Right here on seven ninety, the Shawn
Salisbury Show continued. And I just want to send that's

(02:26:16):
just his family and to friends that are listening. I
know we got people in that part of the country.
They'd live listen on the iHeartRadio app. And I would
be remiss if I didn't remind you of people. Know
what a what a class human being, a good family
man and a hell of a worker and did an
amazing job for a long time. And uh, just sending
out love and prayers for family and one of the

(02:26:37):
real good guys in the business.

Speaker 6 (02:26:39):
Terrible man. Yeah, God bless his family.

Speaker 7 (02:26:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:26:42):
And Pete mmmmm mmm hate hearing that man. Seven one
three two point two five seven ninety is the number
to join. You know what, We're gonna go to Brandon first. Sorry,
Michael Heights, hang on just two seconds, Branda, what's happening.

Speaker 6 (02:26:54):
I watched the Focus game Saturday, so I'm talking about Brandon.
They beat the Calves.

Speaker 10 (02:27:03):
Yep, and they swapped the Calves out of their town.

Speaker 6 (02:27:07):
They did, buddy, they got rid of them. See you later.

Speaker 10 (02:27:13):
I'm gonna watch tonight Bought and against the Rockets.

Speaker 6 (02:27:17):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 4 (02:27:18):
It's an early start, Brandon, six thirty, don't miss it.
We're gonna test you tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (02:27:25):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:27:27):
Hey, good meeting you the other day, Brandon. Appreciate you
coming by the Astros fan fest and uh uh saying hello.

Speaker 21 (02:27:34):
Sean Newt, I was there, did you say? I?

Speaker 5 (02:27:40):
I don't know, did I no? I had When the
show was over, I left. You got there Right after
I left. Brian had sent me a message and said
that you had dropped by, and I told him I
was sorry I missed you. It would have been great
to meet you and your mother. But after the show
was over, I had had to make my way back
to the drive to to my town and I'm sorry
I missed you and I didn't know you were there

(02:28:02):
because when I left you you weren't there just yet.
So we'll do it again. I'm sure I'll get a
chance to meet you. But Brian said it was it
was really nice to see you and your mother. So
I had already left, probably two minutes. I missed you
by a couple minutes. But John's used to a couple
minutes just fun. Well I have better than a couple
of seconds, so you know what that's like.

Speaker 4 (02:28:19):
There, you go, appreciate your Brandon. We'll talk to you tomorrow, buddy,
appreciate it. That's brando dog. I got to meet Brandon.
You guys are tight now, So are you guys tight?

Speaker 7 (02:28:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:28:30):
I mean's she is a staple. There's no doubt two
of them, as a matter of fact, staple it. I
did not because I didn't see him. I mean, I
know he asked if I said hi, I don't. They
didn't see him, so I sure would have said high
and I can give him some dap and high five
and all that, but I didn't get a chance to
see him.

Speaker 6 (02:28:49):
I got to meet him though, that's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (02:28:50):
And his mom, his mom was a great many great people,
great great people, all right, Michael and the Heighs.

Speaker 6 (02:28:55):
Appreciate you home, buddy. What's up, hey, man?

Speaker 13 (02:28:58):
How dare you I've been waiting putting Brandon.

Speaker 16 (02:29:01):
On before me.

Speaker 9 (02:29:02):
No.

Speaker 13 (02:29:04):
Hey, So one stat here, Ohio State, if you look
at their points per game, there were second and all
of college football. So I think Texans oftens the coordinators
got Ship Kelly written all over him.

Speaker 6 (02:29:17):
And I mean.

Speaker 13 (02:29:21):
One other thing I watched about the game last night, Man,
every time it seemed Patrick Mahomes went back to pass,
I think he got sacked like twice. But I mean
there was a crescent moon in front of him and
he just no one was touching him and he'd get
the ball out quick and it was it was unbelievable.
I mean, how many first downs did he get just scrambling?

Speaker 7 (02:29:38):
It was ridiculous.

Speaker 13 (02:29:39):
So but in the off season, I mean, I don't
know when we're gonna start talking draft or whatever, but
the Penn State tight ends that would be incredible for CJ.

Speaker 20 (02:29:50):
And then we need someone brought up Tank Dell.

Speaker 7 (02:29:54):
Dude.

Speaker 13 (02:29:54):
I don't think Tank Dell's gonna play until next season,
until like the bye week, so consider him gone for
next year pretty much. So we didn't we didn't get
some poles for a filled. I mean, the Texas defense
is respectable, but hey, I want to get you guys thoughts.
Some free agency stuff came across my you know, search stuff,

(02:30:15):
and Joey Bosa on the on the Chargers. Uh, he
if you look at his salary, if they cut him,
they can save twenty five million dollars. So I think
he'd be a good candidate to the Texans.

Speaker 21 (02:30:29):
And hey, do you know who he.

Speaker 3 (02:30:31):
Reminds me of? Brian.

Speaker 13 (02:30:32):
I don't know how old you are, but have you
seen the program?

Speaker 2 (02:30:36):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (02:30:37):
Is this a d nuts joke? No, it's a movie.
Have you seen Have you seen the movie?

Speaker 13 (02:30:42):
Have you seen it?

Speaker 4 (02:30:43):
It's the football movie right now. I'm thirty yeah, and
I'm thirty five by the way, And uh no.

Speaker 7 (02:30:47):
I have not seen it.

Speaker 20 (02:30:49):
So Sean, I know, I know you've seen that movie.

Speaker 8 (02:30:52):
Have you seen that movie?

Speaker 7 (02:30:53):
Seany you know the actor?

Speaker 13 (02:30:55):
Yeah, you know the actor, the big muscle idiot guys
on steroids. That's who only both reminds me of.

Speaker 5 (02:31:02):
He's just he's just a little better player than the
guy on the program.

Speaker 13 (02:31:05):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, And uh it's a fun fact. Do
you remember who the coach was in uh the movie
and the actor.

Speaker 4 (02:31:17):
Name Con these nuts. Yeah, yeah, no, got yourn.

Speaker 6 (02:31:24):
I knew I knew it. Con these nuts in your mouth? Yeah,
I got you.

Speaker 4 (02:31:28):
Yeah, way ahead of you there, Michael on the heights.
Good try, though.

Speaker 5 (02:31:31):
I will say this today, if you go get both
of those, that'll give you three because you got two
edge rushers right now. Add another one would be nice,
But I don't know if that will be the move
because he's gonna want to be the everyday player, you know,
So we'll see a decent point there.

Speaker 6 (02:31:46):
I mean, I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:31:50):
Free agency will be a came Jimmy, Jimmy Conn. Free
agency will be a big part of this team's search
this year for the next level, and that may start
on the offensive side of the ball, up front, suppose
to the defensive side.

Speaker 4 (02:32:03):
He was James Kahn was Buddy the Else's father in
movie Elf. Yeah, that's what he's most known for.

Speaker 5 (02:32:09):
No, it's actually not yeah no, no, he's actually godfather.
Is in a bit of a bunch of other roles.
Yeah no, it's not that, but that's okay. James con
has been in about eight million movies. Yeah, the movie Elf. Well,
he's known for it, pops up his elf. Yeah, well
that's not his number one role.

Speaker 6 (02:32:25):
He was in The Godfather. You thought it was kidding. No, no,
I'm just Jimbo Man, Jimbo.

Speaker 4 (02:32:30):
Khan, Honeymoon in Vegas. That's he was on the regular.

Speaker 6 (02:32:32):
Show every day. He was the head boss at the
movie the show Las Vegas, Cloudy with a Chance of
meat Balls, Hide in Plain Sight.

Speaker 7 (02:32:39):
Yeap.

Speaker 6 (02:32:40):
His son is obviously for the show Hawaii five. Oh yeah.
He was a tweeter in Varsity Blues. So yeah, Jimmy
Jimmy Kahn, James konn Gamble for a long time. Man
Gebler is a good one too. Yeah, he's got a
long list of credits. When comes the money.

Speaker 4 (02:32:58):
He was even in Cloudy with a Chance some Meatballs too,
Come on, that's what they're known for you, James con Yeah,
excellent actor. Yeah, he tried to get us on that one,
or try to get me on it ain't happening, Not
gonna happen, No, not happening.

Speaker 6 (02:33:11):
Not today.

Speaker 4 (02:33:12):
Got two calls left for the show seven one, three, two,
seven ninety. John Adrian will get you. As we continue
to talk about these Texans and the offensive coordinator position, next.

Speaker 17 (02:33:26):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:33:34):
Make it quick, Adrian, what's up?

Speaker 15 (02:33:37):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (02:33:38):
Now, make it quick though? Oh damn, tri.

Speaker 4 (02:33:40):
Believe if you could tell him his connections terrible? John,
what's happening, hey, guys, Lay call for you, John?

Speaker 7 (02:33:49):
Yes, yes, I got my jogging in and everything.

Speaker 9 (02:33:51):
Though.

Speaker 7 (02:33:51):
Hey, a couple of things.

Speaker 25 (02:33:52):
First off, on their offensive coordinator, I agree with that
past caller. I think Chip Kelly would be an ideal choice. Uh,
he's been in a win or wherever he's gone. What
he did at Ohio State has been great, and wherever
he's been, that guy knows offense as good as anybody,
if not better than anybody, and he would be my choice.
And then I also mentioned Josh McCown in the past.

(02:34:13):
I could see one of those two. I mean, that'd
be a significant step up from what we had. And
the second thing is you saw I texted, I tweeted
you and Sean about you know, Clay Martin being suspended
after that Texans game.

Speaker 3 (02:34:28):
And you know what what caught my eye though, was
you know, we saw.

Speaker 25 (02:34:32):
The three plays that were very controversial, but they said
in the in the the articles They said that the
game was marred by numerous controversial decisions. They saw many
fouls committed by the Chiefs that went unnoticed by Martin.
And there's one article. I didn't want to inundate you
with him, but there's one article I said there were
like eight or nine of these faults. And you know,

(02:34:53):
my point is, again, you know, the Texans out played them,
and when you have something like this going on, and
granted they did they let as Kelsey rome and they
you know, they schemed wrong in some ways, but when
you got this kind of stuff stacked against you, this
is hard to overcome. I don't care if it was
if these calls would have gone against Kansas City, they
wouldn't have prevailed either.

Speaker 7 (02:35:13):
And and uh, you know, to have something like this,
this kind.

Speaker 25 (02:35:16):
Of shabby officiating and an important point like this in
the playoffs, I mean, I'm I'm really livid about it.
And I didn't watch any of the game edition I'm
just kind of I'm just done with the NFL, the
National Fix League right now. I'm uh, I'm just really
down on it. You know, I just think that you know,
there's no excuse for this. I mean, you know, you're
talking about arguably a dozen calls that were made against

(02:35:39):
the Texans and went unnoticed by the chiefs. And you know,
it's sickening to read that kind of stuff, and so
I just wanted to chime in on that. I don't
know if you saw, I mean, I know, if you saw.

Speaker 6 (02:35:49):
My tweeting, yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 8 (02:35:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:35:53):
So I just you know, I just think it's disgusting.
I just do. I'm so livid about it. I can't
even bring myself to watch an NFL straight stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:36:01):
I will say this, if players were to miss as
many plays in their execution that the referees have missed
in some of these games. And I know it's a
hard job, but that's why they're experts, and that's why
they get to paid the money. We're not looking a
him as amateurs. They're in the biggest games of the
world and they affect a lot of people. A player

(02:36:22):
would get cut for missing that many plays. If he
didn't execute, he wouldn't play. So why is it there
were hamburgers can't referee stake games? Does that make sense?
You know what I'm saying. And there's some really good referees.
I'm just saying all of them, But you can't. You
got to have your best do the best. They can
miss a couple, everybody does, but you just can't.

Speaker 6 (02:36:45):
You got to be better. You have to be better.

Speaker 5 (02:36:47):
The discrepancy of the Chiefs and and the Chiefs didn't
just win this game because penalties. They never better situational,
but it does help, and more possessions and more, it
does matter.

Speaker 6 (02:36:57):
I don't know how they missed so many of them.
It drives me nuts.

Speaker 4 (02:36:59):
Did you see how many backup refs they had at
that game? Did you see all the guys in the
black Jackets. Yeah, there was like two backup referees and
then there was like nine or ten, maybe even twelve more,
just backup officials.

Speaker 6 (02:37:16):
And Jean's Territory talked about it.

Speaker 4 (02:37:17):
He said, I want to say, he said, there are fourteen,
fourteen backup officials.

Speaker 5 (02:37:23):
You ask your players to be the best of the best.
Why can't you expect it from your officials every night?
Sometimes they're gonna miss them. But the truth is you
got to get it right most of the Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:37:30):
You got all the technology.

Speaker 4 (02:37:31):
I mean, we've talked about it, man, I'll see it
long and it's just on display in the playoffs, which sucks,
but it's not the reason why the Chiefs won.

Speaker 6 (02:37:37):
The Chiefs are just they're that they're that team. They
just they just so.

Speaker 5 (02:37:41):
They take advantage of every opportunity you give them, and
they make you pay for it, whether it's a referee
or you as a team, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (02:37:49):
Adrian, I got about a minute for you, budd Let's
make it quick. Thanks for Carlton.

Speaker 26 (02:37:53):
I gotta say on that is I told you last
week they decided it was gonna win in the NFL
thanks to the guy in charge.

Speaker 7 (02:37:58):
I'm waiting on.

Speaker 26 (02:37:59):
A new guy delivered my pharmacy stuff. A man Thompson's
a beast. Here's a name for you, Gary coobi At.
Don't forget he had shop Andre Johnson in area and Foster.

Speaker 7 (02:38:10):
Look what he's got. Now, have a good day, fellaws.

Speaker 4 (02:38:13):
Appreciate you, Adrian, Nice and crisp A Man Thompson. Triple
double the other night, Amen, triple dub.

Speaker 6 (02:38:23):
Trip.

Speaker 5 (02:38:24):
You gotta love triple dubs. Triple triple doubles.

Speaker 7 (02:38:28):
Man.

Speaker 6 (02:38:29):
Yeah, you want me to add that move into it? Yeah,
put that move. Add that to your arsenal. Don't worry
about a dog. You love the Robot.

Speaker 4 (02:38:39):
It's a great day for the Ashles resign. Alex pregnant,
I know that.

Speaker 5 (02:38:43):
Are we good?

Speaker 7 (02:38:43):
Bull driving?

Speaker 6 (02:38:45):
It's a great day to be alive.

Speaker 5 (02:38:46):
Travis Trittz, Travis is great day now with the focus
shifts to rockets and baseball that we're saying, yes, sir,
it can't been. Football is still going on when it
comes to Texas because there's gonna be moves and coaches.
We cover it all day full.

Speaker 19 (02:39:01):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:39:01):
I'm a little pumped up to see where they go,
what kind of offense we're going to be seeing moving
to the next level.

Speaker 6 (02:39:07):
You get an interview I had. Let me let me
check my phone check. It's not there yet. Is that
your BlackBerry?

Speaker 5 (02:39:13):
Yeah, old, no, it's not. I don't see a text
message from or Nick on here yet.

Speaker 26 (02:39:18):
Mico.

Speaker 6 (02:39:21):
Maybe Pep Hamilton's coming back. I don't think so. Probably not.
I don't think that's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah, hang on,
let me check my.

Speaker 4 (02:39:29):
Text mare you go check that back still yet, maybe
your sir?

Speaker 5 (02:39:34):
Yeah, well maybe maybe want to get my truck. It'll
be there outside of the studio.

Speaker 7 (02:39:37):
You don't never know.

Speaker 5 (02:39:38):
Good luck, buddy, Thanks appreciate it. He just want you
to know we're all counting on you.

Speaker 6 (02:39:41):
Don't have that, dude, your video yesterday, don't f it up.
Don't f it up.

Speaker 4 (02:39:45):
Great he and Sean Salisbury Tripley is our producer on
Brian and Lima. Thanks for listening. Back tomorrow morning. Yeah,
I have a good one fellas. Everybody out there listening,
Thanks for listening. We're back tomorrow morning, six am. Don't
go Anywhere. The Matt Thomas Show with Ross is next
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Speaker 10 (02:40:01):
Eight.