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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're the Shawn Salisbury Show continued. It's one of those
short and fourteen things. Steph Curry, Yes, did he really?
I did not want I just said three point. I'm
sure he hauled up and hit about fifty three pointers
in a two game series.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Or whatever they played. And it was also in the bay.
So oh hit the crib.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, stupid, stupid, stupid stupid seven one, three two two
five seven nineties number to join Roger? Good morning, Hang on, Roger,
don't go anywhere, Roger hold on, tripley punch about force?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Please? How do we do? Are you Roger on technology today?
Triple Roger? You're on air? Guy? Come on, dog? What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
That's that's y'all stuff. I'm listening. I can hear you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Oh no, no, whole lot? Man? Uh, too much play
at the golf course. We're losing my voice over here anywhere?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Were yelling? Were you? Were you yelling on the golf course?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah? Four?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hell yeah? Nice.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm talking about it anyways. And so I'm not even
gonna talk about the All Star Game. It's just sad.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
But I didn't watch any aspect of the All Star Game.
And since I was since I was a kid. I'll
be watching that every some part of it I did.
I just checked it out, checked out on.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The All Star. That's how bad it is. That's how
bad it's got. Anyway, onto the pregnant thing.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Yeah, I just feel like the only person that I
really I hated losing this season was Kerkuccie.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
That was the only one that really had any.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Good value because he was a damn good picture while
he was an ass Re uniform. And I'm not sure
if he's gonna be like that for the rest of
his way moving forward. But I think, uh, this David
Brown's pot committed on this kid, on this Camp Smith kid,
and a couple of other future or future uh future
prospects that we might have coming in uh maybe sooner
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rather than later.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So I'm pretty he's part of me.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
That's why he happened, That's why he kind of left
that little subliminal message about all film. The allfield looks strong.
I'm thinking he's he's thinking about more along the line
towards it, towards the second half of the season as
far as that in regards to that. So, I don't know, man,
I think we don't we're gonna be okay if if
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those kids turned out to be what he's hoping to be.
And that's that's all I got. Man and Bregman, Yeah,
he just yeah, he could have he could have said
a little bit more. He could he could have reped,
He could have reaped you a bit better than that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Man. He was ready to go. Man, all right, Man,
I would go.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
With appreciate you, Roger right.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, you know, Dana Brown's probably gonna get.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Maybe there's flack the Dana Brown for not signing Alex Bregman.
I don't think this is a Dana Brown decision. I
think Dana Brown in this one when it gets to
that kind of money. I maybe I'm one wrong. I
don't think Dana Brown could have done anything about this.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I think I.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Think it's a Jim Crane and Jim Crane o who
wouldn't want Bregman back at the right price. And I
think it's one of those things where what is Dan
is supposed to do negotiate over Jim Crane's head.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You bring them, you bring them, here's here's our offer.
And you go to Jim Crane and say what's my
ceiling and what's my floor? And I'm sure Jim Crane said,
you're at your ceiling and you ain't going anywhere else
with this. If he doesn't want this, then we're willing
to move on without him, And what else are you
supposed to do?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Dana Brown's got to He's the GM got to make
But this is a in my opinion, now that he's
taking the decision making out of Dana Brown's hands. But
when it comes that kind of money, Dana Brown didn't
make this choice. To me, Jim Crane said, absolutely not.
We're not getting to that point. But going in you
kind of had an idea anyway. So the GM is
the guy who goes out and does it. But there's
also one in most organizations, you got to get through
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one other guy, and that's the big boss. And if
the big boss says that's our ceiling, you can't write.
You can't go in there and offer more because then
your ass is in a sling. This decision is simply
mister Crane is not going to pay that. Yeah, and
that's not that's his business model. And guess what, Alex
Bregman didn't bust through the business model. His offensive production
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wasn't good enough to warrant it. And that's the way,
in my opinion, that Jim Crane felt about this, and
that's why Alex Bregman's in Boston.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, I agree on hundred percent. I don't think this
was a Dana Brown thing. I think this was a
straight Jim Crane.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And it wouldn't have been a James Click thing, and
it wouldn't have been a Jeff Luno thing.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Nope. As good as Luno is at.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Some point time you go there and then you are
basically the mouthpiece for both sides.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, here's what they want.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, mister Crane, what do you think now, we're not
going any further? Well, you sure nothing? Where's the latitude
you're on it? You're at You're at your max value
for what we're going to offer here. So do I
bring back another? No, there will be no other. Okay,
then your hands are tight. But you, as the GM,
we're going to take credit when something good. In truth is,
if you're going to pay him forty million dollars, the
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credit would have gone to Jim Crane for Dana Brown,
at least selling him on it. Jim Crane's saying worthy,
that's your job to sell him on why or why
not you don't want him when it gets to that
rarefied air money the making the decision in this case,
in my opinion, Jim Crane absolutely not. And I'm not
even sure that the offer got up to one. Say,
I think one one sixty was maxed out.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I think a state of one to fifty six. I
don't think it went any higher.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
If it did, no, I think that's straight up Jim Crane.
Seven one three sevenineties the number to join Steve.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, guys.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Okay, we got you, buddy. What's happening?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Not too much?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
You know, if you don't, I mean obviously you guys,
you know, are are involved with it more than we are.
But you know, there's a there's a pattern here. I said,
we lost Springer, Carrera, we lost Tucker, and we lost Bragman.
Now there's got to be something internal. I understand that
that Jim Crane doesn't want long term contracts, but you know,
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at one point you're going to have to bite the
bullet and prove to the fans that, look, we are
committed to this guy. We're gonna build around this guy.
I think Tucker was probably the one that that should
have been the the the mark. I'm a young kid.
I mean it came up in our in our system,
and I understand he has you know, Jim Crane is
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you know, it's easy to spend somebody else's money, but
there's got to be a benchmark. I mean, the Mets
just gave what soda? What seven hundred million? I mean,
that's commitment. It's outlandish and absolutely ridiculous, but it's a
commitment to a man that is a is a pretty
damn good baseball player. And I just think that the
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commitment is there. But you can't just keep bringing in.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
These these these young.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Kids and building which that's what we did. But this
came from our farm system, and it just I don't know,
I may be completely wrong, but what do you guys think?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Steve?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, Steve, thanks for the call. Steve, do you and
I and Brian. I'll let Brian speak for him. We
the logic says, you're exactly right. How can you keep
doing this? Which we said on here before and I
know you have mentioned it as well. At some point
in time, there's got to be an outside the box
approach to maybe one or two guys, right, But you
know what, from our vantage point, it's like, it's obvious,
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of course there does you got to you got to
keep the sodos. Well, the Yankees weren't even keeping soda.
The Mets, you know, went out and paid him, which
is in base even in baseball terms, it was outlandish money.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But in layman's terms, and the average person can't even
fathom it. But in truth, Steve do they we have
our foundation of what we think they need to do.
And if I'd have told you when they let Springer
go that this Kyle Tucker dude coming up is going
to be a star, no matter what he does, he's
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not going to get paid. Here we when Correo came
in as a rookie and then was that guy and
they won their first World Series. And if I'd have
told you, no, matter what happens, he's out at the
end of this contract, you would have said, and I
would have said, no, staple to this team. Foundation spring
a time everyone, And I'm going to say Cole Verlander
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and Verlander and I know he's at the tail end
of his career, but Verlander and mister Crane are tight,
even Jordon Alvarez because by the time Jordon is the
seventh ranked player in this league by MLB Network. By
the time his next contract comes up, I'm not even
sure that. I mean, you're talking now forty plus. So
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the truth is, does he does he have to?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Really?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Will he change for one guy that he hasn't changed yet?
And my answer is if it creeps into the forty
to forty five million dollar arrange, and for Jordon Alvarez,
the answer is going to be known.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I believe that you'll do with what Tucker if it's
coming to that point and you know you can't pay it,
which is which is crazy to think. I can only
think that way because there's nothing that tells me different
other than one guy. That's the second basement. Yeah, and
in truth, the second basement, according to base Well terms
of production, is underpaid.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Underpaid because he wanted to be here. Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So I get what you're Sam Brown. I don't know
if you agree. I just the price tag ain't going
down for your now, it's not. And I keep hearing
people say about injuries. Okay, he's missed some time, But
in truth, he played a lot of baseball last year. Yeah,
and I understand the concern of one hundred and twenty
games here, one hundred and forty games there, but hell,
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the dude produces at one hundred and thirty games with
a lot of guys will produce it. Hunt, So I
the only thing I can go buy is trends, And
the trend tells me that if jord On Alvarez keeps
raising the price, guess what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
He's gonna You're gonna be playing somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You'll be playing somewhere else, and then they will continue
to bring the next because they're having success with the
next young guy.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And if you have success and your business plan is
giving you a bunch of World Series appearances, what's going
to be different the next time around?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
He's Jim Crane has a businessman, has a business model,
and he has not faltered on it.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Doesn't waiver. So what's gonna get what's gonna check is
not going to change. It's not going to change.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And I don't think you know, we don't want him to,
but I don't think mister Crane has any plans to
get out of baseball anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Non, he at least builds that entertainment center around the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Right, So I don't know, man, I I stee'z right.
The logic says, you got to pay at some point.
But the question is do you or him?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Will you? No? I don't do you for him?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Know?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And will you know? For us?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I would probably be did. I think you and I
could both agree that if they were going to break
that model, it would have been for Kyle Tucker agreed,
five tool player agreed.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And you know what else is, here's what you think.
If Jordan does stay, there's a.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Chance that his production will have gone down exactly because
his price I would.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Have gone right if Jordon continues to do what he does.
You're talking let's just say five years. You're talking five
years at two hundred and twenty million dollars. I mean
you're talking forty five million bucks a year whatever to
do forty five times five, Yeah, somewhere in that range.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
If Bregman's worth forty.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
By the Red Sox with one eye clones, Alvarez is
worth every bit of that, Yeah, tomorrow and more, There's
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So it it's good luck is all I can say
with that. Good Luck, good luck.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
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