NCAA March Madness Tournament Kicks Off, Lance McCullers Jr. Debut Return, Rockets Vs. Magic Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury to usc Troupe's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury, Dan matthewscuse,
this is the Sewan Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
He's Sean triple e, Emmanuel Elmore, Dean Matthews. Lance McCullers
junior thirteen pitches in his Grapefruit League debut, won inning
of work Astro's lucid to Nationals four to three. As
McCullers does hit a batter in that inning, but still
able to get through a good inning. He's expected to

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pitch again on Sunday or Monday. Expect to be an
up and down in that one, so we can expect
a couple of innings out of.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Him, A hell of a lengthy performance, A right thirteen pitches,
I mean, I love that we stretched.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think I think he got a little bit of
a ladder with that one, just a little bit maybe
maybe a little bit more from the long toss and
in the bullpen session right there and then you know
the walk in from the bullpen. But it's good to
see lmc junior back out there on the mound rockets
trying to make it eight wins in a row. Tonight
when they take on the Magic in Orlando. We're gonna
have launch pad coming your way at five o'clock right here.

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Sports Talk seven ninety heading to the bottom of the
fourth in Tokyo, Dodgers with a three to one lead
on the Cubs. In the middle of the fourth, Tommy
Edmund the first home run of the major league season
for the Dodgers, and even though he's zero for four
so far, Sean Kyle Tucker, the first run batted in

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of his cub's career. We'll not even bat it in,
but first RBI to his ledger of his cub's career
with a walk, right, that's it. He got a basis
loaded walk to bring in a run against Roki Sasaki.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
So with the Dodgers team, I didn't have Edmund being
the guy who at the first.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Home run on the on the Bengo card.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I didn't either. They had to scratch Freddie Freeman yesterday.
And Best has been a little under the weather too,
I think, I think, so yeah, yeah, so uh Dodgers
with a three to one lead in that one first
four n C DOAA Tournament, the sixteen seed game. I mean,
normally you think to yourself, all right, who are these
two slappies playing against each other. But finish it was

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absolutely as Alabama State able to get a full court
pass and then a put back off the glass.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
What they really need to do? There was three plus
seconds left. I thought they you know, as I think
it was Spinarkle was calling the game. Yeah he was, yeah, Spiro, yeah,
he said, you know, and it was a good point.
Come off a curl and get the ball, you know,
at the top of a circle somewhere there, and then
make a pass, or take two dribbles and get yourself
you know, or push it forward. But they made the
full court pass, got touched by about five dudes, and

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then he gets a layup off the glass.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Sa I saw that somebody shared a meme of the
hail Mary last year between the Commanders and the Bay
and of course we know how that ended. But that
was pretty much their point is They said that that
was pretty much the basketball version of that hil Mary
that was brought in by former Texan Noah Brown yeap and.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Then got himself a little kiss off the glass, and
you know, they left with about point seven and then
then that was ballgame.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
But it was a hell of a game. It was
better than the other one.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Now, I was going to say, you rarely get in
a in a playing game two really good programs. You
know what I knew San Diego State, and we talked
about yesterday the success they've had, you know, over the
last what five years, ten years, last decade, their third
and wins record wise record in NC TWA basketball.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
San Diego State, we know they got a.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Good program, Steve Yeah, and Dutch Dutcher has done a
great job there too, and so they in North Carolina.
We know about the blue blood history there and all
the controversy going into this, but they put a exclamation
point on it last night, and against a good San
Diego State too.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
The only thing I was disappointed in, and to your point,
you and Ce moving on with a ninety five sixty
eight win over the Aztecs. The only thing that I
was disappointed in is the North Carolina social media team.
I mean, Michael Jordan, he's yours right, Yes, it was
right there for the meme of and I took that personally. Yeah,
you don't even have to have anything else, just the

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picture of Michael Jordan with you know, kind of the
handout to the side that he had when he said,
and I took that personally, both hands out to the
side and saying, you know, yeah, hey, I took that personally,
and I thought that maybe we would get that from
the UNC Twitter account.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
They actually, you know, while they'll be complaints going in
for the controversial reasons they did. I mean, if you
were going to try to send a message to say
we belonged, last night was a good time to do it.
But first game was outstanding. And now I know who's
to say, Like I said, I'm not a big game
to game momentum guy, but confidence it does matter. Who's
to say they can't roll in there and take care
of their business in a game or two because they

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are talented, that's good players.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah they were.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
They're well coached, and they were talking about that last
night on the broadcast. They were a top ten pre
season team and I mean achieved this.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
R J.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Davis back a lot of really good players that they
felt like, all right, hey, this is a team that
a couple of years ago, Caleb Love and that whole crew.
They went all the way to the Final four and
almost won the Final Four against Kansas, but Bill Self's
team able to come back for that We're gonna have
local hoops action. Horns gonna be on the floor tonight
against Xavier. Chance to move on and face number six

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seed Ole Miss on Friday, and if you want to
catch that game, it's gonna be over on KPRC nine
p fifty starting at seven point thirty. Koog's gonna get there.
NCAA Tournament action started tomorrow one o'clock against SIU Edwardsville.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
LJ.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Crier yesterday named a third team AP All American and
that was something that I thought was pretty interesting, Sean,
where you have the team that you have h had
this year, and I mean you probably wouldn't expect Juwan
Roberts to be an All American, but a little surprised
that you don't see, you know, Emmanuel Sharp on there
or even Milos Uzia maybe sneak his way in, but

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averaging just over fifteen points this season. L J Crier
a third team AP All American.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Deserved it, deserved it good, I mean, a hell of
a player, and the third team All Americans Big, he's
gonna have to knock down what he did, the shots
and he for them to get where they want to go,
he's gonna have to be a big part of it,
a big, big part of it as they roll through
to get to you know, try to find their way.
What in San Antonio this year, And congratulations to him

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a hell of a hell of a season and a
hell of a hell of a basketball player.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
He's definitely been able to help himself out under the
tutelage of Kelvin Sampson, no doubt about that.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Key K just goes yard for a two run job
so to left field. Dodgers up five to one.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Do we even need to play a regular season? No? No,
are they gonna lose?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean, it seems like at least through a game
and a half that it doesn't look like that's going
to be the case. But it's funny too, you know,
because serves me right. I cracked on Kyk the other
day of saying, imagine you're that guy in that clubhouse,
you know, Tommy Edmond, Both of those guys not necessarily
the guys you would expect that would be leaving the
yard for the Dodgers, but they're the first two home
runs of the season for them.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's a good sign for the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
If Edmund and Keyk end up being the stars is
you're like, oh, that's not guys who will play, some
come off the bench at times, start and key players,
and that's well, we just got admit that's the Dodgers
are pretty good.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I was gonna sack them or not. There just
pretty damn good.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
When you got good ball players on a team full
of all stars, it definitely bodes well for you.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
A quick update on Tracy Morgan.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Remember we brought that up yesterday about him getting a
little sick in his court side seats.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Hey, yeah, he posted on.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Instagram he was in a hospital bed, but he said
the doctors told him food poisoning is what caused him
to spew at the game. But he did add of course,
him being a comedian, you gotta have the joke in there,
he said, Now in fairness, the Knicks, I want to
know when I spew on the courts.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
So go go get the botch altis and eat and
every time you show up to a game, so you
throw up and they can keep winning. But have you
ever had food poison It's the worst there is. It
is you you feel like, you know, just kill me,
Just put a bullet in my head and let me
finish you know.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
And a buddy of mine had a good line once
that you know, what's what's the difference between you and
a billionaire when you have stomach issues? There's nothing like
you both have it. You're both just miserable. And that's
the thing too, is I was thinking about it with
him going to the game, I mean, because he had
to probably be feeling at the ride over all that
kind of stuff. Yeah, you get the sweats going, you
get the uneasy feeling, and you're just kind of like,

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do I REALI yeah, yeah, you don't want any of that.
So good to hear that with Tracy Morgan. But back
to the astros mentioned about Lance mccullors Junior. A couple
of guys though injury wise, as you had. Zach Dezenzo
had to leave the game after taking a grounder off
the side of his face a L MJ sprain. The

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way that it was explained on Twitter by Brian McTaggart
is that's kind of the muscles and ligament that hold
your your jaw together. That that's where it got him
pretty much like right underneath the ear is what it
kind of sounds.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Like, Oh yeah, what a little bruising. He's gonna be
all right, I think so.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Hey, you sometimes you just got to take a shot
to the face and keep on ticking right.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, I mean, you know, it makes you a man,
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I mean, you know, we've all had to take our
lumps along the way, and.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I've taken more of those than I care to think about.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, I was gonna say, I mean, what's the old
line about a fights. You know, it's all good and
fun until somebody takes a punch to the face. Well,
he didn't take a punch. I mean, in this case,
the punch was a leather baseball right right right to
the dome.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
My case, it was usually a helmet, yeah, to the face.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, back when they actually allowed them to do that, right,
think about that. But I think got how it's changed
in you know, twenty thirty years, about twenty five thirty years,
about playing that. Oh yeah, crown of the helmet right
to the chin, Hey, keep playing? Yeah, get off him,
leave him alone. You're like your jaws up by your
ear lobe. Yeah, yeah, a few of those. But I

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would imagine that probably on Descenzo a little bit. But
that's a big dude. I imagine that at times when
you see a guy that big, the ball gets a
little afraid of them.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I think he'll be okay.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
And you'red on out of the lineup yesterday because I
guess he jammed his thumb, his right thumb and BP
a couple of days ago. But I think it was
channel roam pointing out that a spot is saying expects
him in the lineup today. I mean, you're to the
point in spring training where you've seen live pitching, you've
gone through all of this, where it's if you're not
feeling one hundred percent, it's like why even chance it?

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Just go ahead and sit you down for the.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Day, right Otherwise a couple of innings, maybe in a
bat or two, and sit down. And now it's just
a matter of little fine tune get yourself mentally and physically,
so you see you go in rest and ready to go.
And the players usually know how they're seeing it, you
know what I'm saying. No matter who, they usually know
at this time how they're seeing it. So you tune
up a little bit, get yourself right now. This is
also the stage like in football when you get ready

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for the last preseason game. Your eyes weren't on the
last preseason game, right, Our eyes were on loading up
your vehicles, headed back to the crib from training camp,
and we're gonna play this game.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But who we open up with?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
You are?

Speaker 5 (11:05):
You had already started because you don't put game plans
in in preseason. You you put your own stuff in.
You don't you don't watch defensive tape and say they
play cover two. You're not game planning them with the
you know, the old analytics and situational football. You're calling
what you call and trying to execute, see how who's
going to make the team and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
So you're not prepared.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
But when you get to game and well, now it's
game two going into game three, but it used to
be three going into four, or four going into five
if you've got the extra game, right, which we did
a couple of times playing like in Germany or in Japan.
But you do that and you're like, okay, now you're
thinking about Then you start to the advanced scouting. You're
starting to look at tape of the opposing team and
know that we're opening in early September, and here's who

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we're playing. Same thing in baseball, you're they're already now
preparing themselves. I don't think al two Bay is worried
about spring training pitching. He's thinking about, Okay, we're playing
the Mets, starting to look at tendencies and game plans
because that's who you're opening with. That's where they are
now at this stage, and a young player is trying
to put one last ditch effort into. If you're Cam Smith,
you're trying to put one last effort into thinking, Okay,

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do I need one more impression to let them know.
The truth of the matter is, at this stage of
the game, the Astros know who's going to make their
roster opening day roster. They already know.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I would say that probably they have twenty four of
the twenty six pretty much already penciled in, and a
couple of guys on the bubble that will have some
meetings about and try to figure out from there. But yeah,
I mean, I think for the most part they do
feel they.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Don't know they and you probably haven't been paying enough.
At ten, they have pretty good idea. Even on the
last two. It's I think we know who the two
are unless they fold up their tent and all of
a sudden somebody gets hurt or don't do it. You
have a pretty good idea. You've had enough time evaluate,
and now it's just wrapping up to me. It's fine
tuning now. And I think Joe's spotta knows who he's
going to start. I'll bet you Joe spot right now
probably has a pretty good idea what the batting order

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is when they open up against the Mets. Once they
you know, I'm sure the Mets have announced.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
He'd pretty get good. Yeah, he's going to be their
starting pitcher.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
So you get a good idea of what they're going
with and who's You've already looked at the analytics. Pretty
good idea already. It's just a fine tune because here
a couple of days you're starting to get yourself going
another way.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now you mentioned jose L Twov.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
That's whe we're gonna start off the show today, coming
up next because it finally happened.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
We'll discuss that here.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
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four games played last night. Horns gonna be on the
floor tonight taking on Xavier seven thirty over on KPRC
nine fifty.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Lou Garcia is on the mound right now, not the
not our lou Garcia, right yeah Garcia. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
So, and he just gave up a RBI single. I
think that's Ian happy here. You know, Ian Happ, I'm
not happy. Do you think he's happy to be there?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think so. I think so. Jay Happ his brother too, yeah,
Astro Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of happy you know what,
happy family.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
They're not hapless there you go, Yeah, yeah, they're They're
not They're not a hapless bunch.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You know what is hapless?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
What are these what are these celebrities gonna stop telling
us they're leaving the country? Any does any First of all,
like Ellen DeGeneres, well, when you get rid of your
Dutch boy paint's haircut and look like the sixteen year
olds that you have apparently spent the wrong time around,
keep it moving or they go Rosie o'donnald.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Do we care that she's in Britain right now? She
really care? Thank you?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
I just find it hilarious. I mean, how self serving
and arrogant can you be? Now, Courtney loves moving, I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Here to tell you right now, we don't care. I
just don't get it.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Do you really think with three hundred and twenty million
people in this country that you letting us know Rosy
O'Donnell that we are gonna be oh Rosie's leaving.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I would have helped her bitch ass pack. We don't care.
There you go.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Steve just told you I would have, And I don't
you know, I mean the bitch ass affectionate. Well maybe
not towards her right, but I just don't get why
anyone why I think why anyone thinks I don't care
if the near any of them? Why you think that
letting us know you can still tweet from there? Sure
you can still sing music from there? You can still

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in Courtney loves case, not well but yeah go ahead?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Well does she still sing? I think she tries? Okay,
So for me, I at some point in time, when
did we give a rats ass that you are moving?
I mean, Dan here's what I want you to do.
If you move from your house to another one. Yeah,
make sure you tell everybody I am moving four miles
away because I want to, or you know what, why

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don't you just tell us all we're moving. I'm going
on a six month vacation. Your ass will be back.
You know that they'll be back. It's the announcement. Everybody
wants to make an announcement. Every everybody wants to have
their moments. And for people you go, you know all
all of those things. That's that's what you want with
the affirmation have we suffered as a country? Oh my gosh,
Rosie O'donnald What does she do now?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Anyway? I have no clue. What in the world does
she do?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Could she also put WHOOPI Goldberg and that that that
Joy Bahar in the suitcase with her?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I mean, I don't think a lot of people would
miss them. Step in a.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Freezer while they're there. I mean, seriously, put a muzzle
on them, do we care. I've never understood why they
think we actually give a rats ass that they moved
to that they're leaving the country because they can't. Great
And if you're a Republican or a conservative and you
left because somebody else was president. There was a liberal. Great,

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we don't need to know. The difference is I think
they think we care.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
No they do.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
They think that we wake up in the morning and
that Courtney Love or Rosie O'Donnell or Ellen Degenerous actually
think I woke come saying, you know what, I have
zero idea and I'm so but hurt Rosehill when left
the count.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Bill Burr has a bit on that, and it is,
you know, just all of this of you know, hey,
what do I think about this? Let me, let me,
let me, you know, tell me what Sean Penn thinks
about it, and you know, it's just his whole point.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't actually care what he thinks either.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
It's it's the lack of self awareness that what he's
pointing at, and that that that you know that, hey,
look at me, I'm bigger dude.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
We don't care.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Everybody needs Ricky Gervais in their life about once a week.
Every celebrity, I don't care what who you vote for,
every celebrity, star, athlete, self righteous per they all need
Ricky Gervais to give him humble pie every single frigging week.
You need to tell him you're not that important. I mean,
you know you're important. You got a good life and
you've got family. But to think that we all did

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that are my life wakes up. I didn't care when
you told us, and I don't care now.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
We all need that friend to check us. And you
know you're talking about important. Well, jose L two BA
is important.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yes he is. I think we can agree on that.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
And jose L two V yesterday nice catch out in
left field, nice little running catch. But he also had
this moment happened to him.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
That's a way to impress pressed the big leaguers. Second
he showed up. Now fly locked it into the opposite field.
Al two B drifting forward and it pops in and
out of his glove, rolls into foul territory. One run
his home cruise swinging around and diving into score Garcia,
and an air by jose Al two by in left

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has given the Nationals of four to two lead.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Now, Sean, I think I've talked before about antennas for people,
and I think a lot of Astros fans had that
intenna raised for that moment for jose Al Twovey to say,
see this just doesn't work. It's not going to work.
This is a terrible experiment. What the hell are the
Astros doing putting him out there in left field? And
it was a moment that we knew was going to come,

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because if you're out in the field, you're going to
make an error. It doesn't matter how good of a
fielder you are. It's going to happen. It's baseball. I
got news for you. And it won't be the last one.
It won't be the last one makes.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
And he's going to miss the cutoff man by eight
feet at some point, and he's gonna miss a wide
throw or he's gonna drop ball. It's not the last
last time. And you're exactly right. We may even get
a call on it today. Oh see, it's going to
be miserable that he could make a hundred of them
and one of them. That's what they're going to say.
He doesn't belong out there. It's coming. It's coming, the
I'm telling you it's coming. First off, the second we

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think this is going to be a great defensive outfield,
you wake up, well, Jake Myers is a good defensive
center fielder. Not Chazz Chas is Okay, Chas is he's
a he's a serviceable outfielder.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Not a great arm.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
But no, that's exactly right. There is no great arm
in the outfield right. Those three guys that we mentioned,
none of them are going to lead the league, and
assists that that's a fact. So just get used to
it now, do I am? I bum that I'd rather
have him do it now than Game twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
But it'll happen. He's going to a ball is going
to go under his gloff.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
He's going to misplay a line drive right at him,
just like a lot of guys that play the position
regularly do. It's going to happen. The key is I
just take you to your job, or our job, or
somebody else's job. When you switch from a salesperson to
the sales manager, you think you've made a mistake Once
in a while, you think you think the sales managers
you know what, I missed.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
The boat on them.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Of course, do you think that if you're a car dealer,
guy walks in, he said, I'm gonna give him a
little breathing space when he walks in, so I'm not
hovering over him when he walks in. And then you say, oh,
a guy walked in and cut off or ripped jeans,
probably didn't have the money to buy the vehicle one,
so you kind of turn the other cheek to tell
me or a woman how many times you heard those stories.
Walks in and the salesperson just kind of eh, let
it go. And then that person goes and buys one

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hundred and twenty five thousand dollars vehicle, And you're like,
I missed the boat of what an air I made there?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
It happens in all our jobs. It's gonna happen here.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Cussed on air before ye that won made the first one,
and guess what, it won't be the last.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay, hence that's exactly right. So it's it.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
But it's the optics of now I got news. If
that would have been Kyle Tucker, nobody just said a thing.
Sure it's Kyle Tucker. Oh he's fine. He just made it.
But it's jose Al too. The Hall of Fame set
and basement. But because you moved in a position the
optics going in, people didn't like it. And now that
he's out there, the opt is going to be, Oh
my gosh. Now here's what I can promise you. If

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jose Al TV does that ten times in the first
hundred and eighty five games.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Guess what, he will no longer be playing left field.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
They'll move him back to second base and they'll say
experiment was a bust. Sure, but one time in a
spring training game while he's still learning to play the position.
Who knows why he dropped it. But if you think
that's his only air, you better gear up. If you're
an Astros fan, people take an extra base and I
know that was a drop, but on arms and the
rest of it, gear up. That's not their strength. But

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they're going to have to understand angles and be better.
So people in hit cutoff men to have a little
help on the relays and stuff. They're just not This
is not going to be Dewey Evans, Jim Rice and
Freddie Lynn. Okay, that's just not going to happen at
the plate or in the field.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And it happened.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm telling you, somebody's asleep right now. Saw that that
call is coming this week.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
You heard Sean mention it.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
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Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm waiting for somebody saying, well, let me ask you
a question. Well, no kidding. Isn't that why you asked
me to come on? Have any conversation there? Do you?

Speaker 5 (25:32):
When we hit September and I want straight up, no filter,
what will we be saying about Lance mccolors in September?
Your your your true gut feeling? What are we gonna
be saying about him?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Hmm?

Speaker 4 (25:53):
I want to say help this team by help the team,
he helped this team immensely, or was just a guy?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I mean, I think he's going to be just a guy?
Is that's the gut feeling?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Is?

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I mean, he hasn't pitched in two years. I don't
know one hundred percent want to think that he's going
to be this season because of that reason. Yeah, and
you got to he's got to prove to you that
he can give you a full season and we're getting
back to what we talked about yesterday with Laramie Tunsel
to pay. Certain expectations come with that as part of
the concern that people have hab with Plants mccullors and
the annoyance that I think some Astros fans have had
with him not being out there. So when you haven't

(26:25):
pitched in a couple of years, I mean, injuries are
a part of it. So I just I think he's
going to be a guy.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
I know what I want for the guy and the
pitcher to have a season because I I'm a big
I'm big into comeback stories. I am whether it's injury,
rock bottom, whatever it is, I like because understanding haven't
been there when people go through it. And I've been
through both comeback story as a player shredding my knee
twice and then off the field. You know where you

(26:54):
come back. You say, you're you know, sleeping in somebody's
truck for one hundred days a year and you come
back and you're doing what you want to do. So
I actually root for that the comebackstory.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I do.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
And it doesn't matter if it's an opposing team member.
It doesn't matter if it's a guy you don't like,
it doesn't matter about their politics.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I root for comebacks.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
I just do, and I'd love to see it for
him because it's you know, all these as we have
this feeling about athletes or people that are in the
public eye that they're invincible and that they don't have
the feelings of that they don't struggle with those confidence thoughts,
right right, Oh, I can guarant ask to you the
best of them do. The great matter of fact, most
of them are insecure. The best players I've ever been around,

(27:31):
and the people I know, you know why they keep
doing what they're doing and keep it. They're afraid to
death to fail, so they keep at it and keep
at it. Otherwise, when you're seventy five or eighty and
why keep acting one you love it too? Is you
just told you, you kee, it's hard to let go
and when you struggle with it. So for me, I
root for the comeback story I do. I don't want
you to go through. Everybody's going to hit whatever their

(27:53):
rock bottom is, and hopefully it's not a severe rock bottom,
but everybody's going to hit that.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Can I overcome this moment in their life? Whether it's
the loss of a family member, a career change, whatever
it is, or your girlfriend decided you're not going to
you're not staying married or dating anymore. You're going to
hit it, how you overcome it, the rest of it,
And so I root for that. I don't root for
him to get there because when you're in it and
people saying, man, you're gonna be okay, You're like, get
the oh, I'm a horrible thing hanging there. But well,

(28:21):
I know the people mean, well, that's not how you're feeling.
But when you get out of it, you look back
and say, and I can. For me, I'm thinking that's
the best thing ever happening because it actually shaped me
and whether it's physical, mental, emotional. So I do root
for it for Lance mccullors, though, this is I think
in September you're going to say bullpen guy helped is

(28:43):
never going to be a twenty five game starter and
dominate baseball.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I've been on that train. I've been on that train
for the longest time.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
And I know that he came out against the whole
bullpen thing early on in spring training. But I think
the question that comes to him this is a conversation
Sean Salisbury Theater. Right here, you're Lance, I'm the front office.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Lance.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Do you want to prolong your career? I absolutely do. Okay,
So the way that you're going to prolong your career
is you're going to go.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
To the bullpen, because okay, here's a response. Here's my response. Sure,
you say we're watching the bullpen. I understand starting there,
but my goal and where I plan on being where
I met my best as a starting pitcher.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And then you're going to come back and.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Say, well, you haven't proven that you can stay healthy
as a starter. I'm trying to help you. I'm trying
to prolong your career. I'm trying to find a way.
John Smoltz went to the bullpen.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Lance. Okay, look John, and look at who John Smoltz is.
Let's have this conversation at the All Star break.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Fair enough? Sure, all right, Okay, we can revisit this.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Let's see where it goes and see how I can
extend and how healthy I am. And if I do
prove that to you a chance and go out there
and do it, then then at the All Star Game
we can have this conversation about what you think I'm
bringing to this team. The problem with that is, and
it's a great point by you, is the hardest thing
to do. And I guarantee, and you know you've been

(29:55):
in Atlanta and Smoltz was Smolts at one point, I
had the three best pitches of baseball. It was a
mom monster. I can promise you. It wasn't easy for
John Smolts to say I'm gonna go be your closer,
right yet he excelled at it and became it was
good at it. The key for Lance mccullor's is going
to be at because he's not hold. The key for
him is going to be can can you accept it?

(30:17):
And the problem is if you accept it, is your
mindset made up where we accept it already. See if
I'm him, I'm grinding to be a starter, but I'm
but in order to prove to you, I got to
dominate in the bullpen. So don't I don't want to
say I'm oh, I'm not a starter. Then you piss
down your leg in the bullpen and then you're no
longer a member of the team.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
They're moving you around. You become a journeyman.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
So there's got to be that mindset and you got
to almost split it down the middle and compartmental. I say, yeah,
I know where I want to go, but in order
to get where I want to go, I got to
prove to you one I can stay healthy and two
that I'm that guy again. So but the hard part
is is it sometimes when you admit maybe I don't
have it, then you almost you don't want to close
off that. Yet at his head, you know you still
want because he's still parting. He's in that comeback motive.

(30:59):
I'm gonna show the world yeah that I can be
a starter again. And I would want him to think
like that. I just don't know. I mean, it's been
a long Even when he was healthy, you weren't getting
twenty five plus starts on a continuous basis.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
So the question here is canny.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
And I couldn't root harder for him because it's the
comeback story and a good Lance mccolors makes his team
a lot better. But just from and I hope that
we come back in September and we're saying, boy, did
we miss the boat on that one. Lance mccullors is
a starter and gave you twenty two starts and is
out of his mind. Good right, it looks like the
guy we knew he was. I'm just not sure for
like you said, extending the career for now, it almost

(31:34):
feels like twenty twenty five should be the proving point
and I'll see you as a starter in twenty twenty six.
Would love nothing more, Yeah, it would absolutely love nothing
more because, yes, nobody wants him to not do well,
and you talked about, you know, career years out of guys.
I mean, if you get that out of him, then
I think you feel even better about this team this year.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
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Speaker 4 (34:24):
I was going to say, I was going to say
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Alabama State moving on seventy to sixty eight buzzer beater
win over Saint Francis.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
So does Alabama State play now? They're going to play Auburn.
That's right, Well, I love it. It's been fun. But
guess what, Bruce Pearl ain't going to the broadcast thing
early this year.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
No, Alabama State. It was a big win last night. Yeah,
but I hate it. Watch it round two?

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think we're going to see
around to thirty two for Auburn. Texas is going to
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That's going to start at seven thirty over on kPr
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(35:09):
with an RBI Shoheyo Tani has hit his first home
run of the season.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
The first of about forty nine more callin forty nine.
I think he's a fifty home run guy again.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Well, and then on top of it, he's gonna pay healthy.
He's gonna pitch this year too. So yeah, it just yeah,
we could spend a lot of time. You could spend
hours talking about how good this dude is. It's a
they are.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
They're pretty fortunate and shave ezravine to have the roster
they have and to have that cat on their team.
Credible fun watch man. You just got when you see
great players, just got to appreciate what they do. The
guy's a freaking freak show.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
It just is.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
And uh, they got a bunch of them in that lineup,
So tip of the hat, Yeah it is. I mean,
there's there's nothing more. I mean, maybe we don't like
Dodger fans, but you can at least respect what they're doing.
Like I feel like all the time, that's one of
those things for teams like them. I mean, you know
the Lakers when you had it in the mid to
late two thousands there of Kobe doing what he was doing,

(36:11):
I mean, you didn't necessarily like the fans. You thought
that some parts of them were obnoxious, but also too
you're like, hey, that guy that wears number eight, he's
pretty good. The other guy, Paal Gasol that wears number sixteen,
he's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
I can at least respect him. When Alabama was going
through it, I mean, I think for the most part,
people couldn't stand their fan base, but it was also
you know, that guy that coaches that team, the players
that come out of it, I respect him.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Now let me look at the other side. Is there
a fan base? Honestly?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Now, you can like a Kansas City Royal fans base
because you feel like they're not bothering you, right, Sure,
I mean even though that they the camps. I'll guarantee
you this, fans any most places don't like the Kansas
City Chief fan base.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
BA.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
It's like the Royals, sure, fairly nondescript yets the same people.
I was about to say, you know, fan base is
that they don't like. I have a zero issue with
the Dallas fan base, and I know it's the hat
because I lived there for ten years and my kids
were raised there. Sure, I don't know, I'm not a
Hatfields and McCoy's I could really care because there's a
there's an ass clown in every fan base. So do

(37:10):
you like any And I tell you what, walk into Dallas,
going to Boston, you know where New York.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Guess what.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
They can't stand the Astros fan base. Now we love them,
but if you're outside winning, fan bases always get bad reputation.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Now some worse than others.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
If you go to Philly and you know you're throwing
snowballs at Santa Claus, it's a different story. But they're
passionate about their team. But Dodger fan base, the truth
of the matter is, havn't gone to school there and
watched the fan base. Ain't that bad? I know you
show up late. Laker fan base not that bad. From
a distance, it looks like it. But you know what
they think about this fan base. They can't stand them either,
you know what I mean? The non Here's the way

(37:45):
I look at it. If you're not being talked about
as a fan base, nobody.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Really cares about you.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
And so the Astros fan base gets talked about. The
Rangers fan base with the people here talk about them
all the time. They talk about the Astros. Why their
arrival Philly and I got in news Philly and Boston
they're battling all the time, even though they're in different leagues. Right,
it's Yankees can't stand. The truth of the matter is
the difference between the Yankee fan base and the Boston
fan base is an accent in about two hour drive.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, that's about it.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
So in truth, when we say fan bases, and I'm
just different, I don't judge a team by their fan
base because even of Philadelphia, where I've played there and
it's brutal.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
If you play there and you're.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Successful, oh yeah, there's no better place to play because
they are gonna let you know. But if you make
excuses there, they'll hammer you. You can hit two twenty
if you're not making an excuse, I'm gonna keep grinding.
And you've Harper struggled when he got there, didn't make excuses,
became one of them, and now they'll crawl ten miles
over broken glass for the guy. So you know, the
broad Street bullies, they love it. So it really when

(38:45):
we say, oh fan base, in truth, if you're here,
you think you got the best fan base on the planet.
If you're in New York. Oh, they'll say, nobody has
the passion we have. In Philly, nobody has a passion
we have. Dodger fan base said, well, look at us,
even though and they're you may.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Not like them.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
The Giants fan base can't stand the Dodgers, and quite frankly,
they get in those fights that they kill people, which
but you know they've had those in parking lots after
which is nuts. But like you look at the Dodgers
fan base, guess what's gonna happen in Chavez Ravine On
a regular when the season's over, they will have they'll
lead the league, if not top. They won't be third
in attendance. They'll have thirty On a Tuesday night, they'll
be thirty five thousand people. They're in a regular base.

(39:23):
So when I hear people I can't stand fan base,
that's a good thing. Why means that your rival and
they're competitive and you don't like it. And that's the
way it is when you love the other. If you're nondescript,
you won't you won't be mad at the other. You
think the Cubs and the Cardinals like each other, No,
but they don't really matter right now. They think they
do at times. But the truth is, you're like, I

(39:44):
don't even Saint Louis got great for they know they're
great until they're great baseball city, but they haven't been
winning recently the way they're normally used to. So guess what,
it's kind of nondescript right now. So that's the way
it works. What did mister October say? They don't boo
nobody's So if you're getting boot, it's a sign of respect.
The greatest place I was talking with? Who was I
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(40:06):
go into a building and you are not getting boot,
you're fairly irrelevant. Yeah, if you want that's the big
Going on the road and getting boot is the biggest
people paying attention to you, the greatest sign of and
the ultimate respect.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
If you're getting booed at home, you better fix it.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
I was going to say, yeah, you definitely want the
first and not the latter in that scenarios, but you
mentioned one of those fan bases. The word cesspool was
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thirteen pitches out of him, one inning of work. No
jord On Alvarez in the lineup. He was scratched after
jamming his right thumb MVP a couple of days ago,
but he is expected to play today against the Mets.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
They're in West Palm Beach.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Gonna be a tape delay over on news radio seven
forty k TRH coming your way at seven o'clock. Rockets
will be here on Sports Talk seven to ninety tonight.
They're looking to make it eight straight wins. They're going
to take on the Magic in Orlando. It's now the
top of the seventh. They're in Tokyo. And that the
Dodgers with a six to three lead on the Cubs

(44:07):
that are looking to go to two and zero on
the season. Horns on the first floor of the NCIRA
first four games of the NCAA tournament Tonight they're going
to take on Xavier seven thirty. Over on KPRC nine
fifty is where you can find that game. Koogs will
be on the floor tomorrow against SIU Edwardsville and that's

(44:27):
gonna be one o'clock there in Wichita. But mentioned Cesspool,
Sean and a fan base because the word was thrown
out last night on social media. And again, you know,
I mentioned antenna's earlier. I've got an antenna for somebody,
and for the most part in this industry, I don't
go after other people because we're all trying to make

(44:49):
a living.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
The what is it when it's plural? Real quick? Cesspoles antenna?
Oh antenna antenna? I thank you. I just want to
make sure j we're good. Now, have that keep going there, you.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Go, so you know now that we've got that, Mike
Florio is somebody that's an exception to where I was
going with this is because we're all trying to make
a living.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
We're all trying to do what's best for our careers.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
We've all carved out at least a career out of
enough success whatever it is so far to that point.
But there are certain people who get my goat, and
he is one of them. And last night on Pro
Football Talk he throws out I guess they had a
post about the Cowboys giving out DeMarcus Lawrence's number to
someone like his jersey number, and the post was the

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number of Cowboy fans slash reporters who were unreasonably triggered
by our post.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Pointing out the team immediately.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Reissued DeMarcus Lawrence's number was impressive, even by this cesspool's
usual standards. So of course, like I said, I couldn't
help myself because he thought that he had a zinger
about a week ago about Aaron Rodgers, and my point was, yeah,
insult your audience is a really interesting strategy, especially one
of the largest in the league. You're really bad at this.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
So are you?

Speaker 5 (46:05):
I didn't listen. There's certain people I don't pay a
lot of attention to. He's one of them that you
don't know. I mean, I know he's carved out his
career as well, you may not like some of the
way he's carved it out.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I get that. I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
I don't pay much attention because I have amount of
respect for him. When he first started. There's no doubt
Will was going up against the giants. He was provided
he was building doing it the right way. Right now,
it's hot take ish.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
There's just a ton of it, and that's it's It's
not a shock or surprise, And that's why it doesn't
move my needle because I know what I'm getting when
I when I go there, if I if I do,
I probably see their tweets or read tweets from there
once a month maybe, And it's only because somebody said,
I don't pay much attention to the to it. I

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know he's got a following and all that. So just
so I'm clear, here is he saying that Dallas Cowboys
shouldn't have issued the jersey or should have no the.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
The point of contention here is that he's calling them cesspool,
which I understand, how boy, yeah, okay, which I mean
I understand how people feel because the fans are mad
that they did or because it's the low hanging fruits.
And he thinks that he's being clever. He thinks that
he's being funny, and again, like you said, the hot
take right there.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, but I still don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
I'm just trying to figure out is is Mike Florio
calling them a cesspool because they and does the fan base?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I don't. I'm a little lost.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Does the fan base not want the Cowboys to give
his jersey away this quick? Or they want it that
they think he's out the door.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
It's just their reaction to the post that hey, they
gave out DeMarcus Lawry.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Just the fan reaction, not what got the reaction. Yes, okay,
Well first off, well, yeah, there's probably Dallas fans listen,
Yeah you could cesspools probably if you want to say,
you know, I disagree with the Dallas fans. Why is
this such a big deal. I'm not going to tell
him how to what verbiage to use, but I'm with you,
I don't. I don't know what it serves to label everybody.

(47:54):
So basically you're saying he put a blanket statement over
the entire fan base.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
There, to me is a mistake.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
And it's usually three, four, or five or ten people
that create the so called quote unquote cesspool and the
rest of them got a pretty Most fans have a
decent clue of what goes on, and fans even on
Twitter are looking for a reaction at times. You know
that that cesspool that you're talking about is usually smaller
than big. But if there's anybody arguing over it, and
I listen, I'm on de Marcus Lawrence side on the

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on the Michael Parsons sing, DeMarcus Lawrence had more skin
in the game than Michael Parson's there And if his
belief is they got a better chance to win the
Super Bowl somewhere else, I don't know why that's a
big deal you leave. Most athletes don't have the balls
to say stuff while they're there. They usually stay it
out when they walk out the door. And Lawrence did
it too. And if Michael Parsons were to go somewhere else,
he'd have things going on. And sometimes Michael Parson's better

(48:42):
learn how to defend the run. And Mike Partson's the
hell of a player. Mike parts can't defend the run.
And he's a one dimensional player.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
He just is.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
But he's about as good as one dimensional player as
there is on the planet. So much he can disret
he can wreck a game quickly. But if you want
to beat Michael Parson's hand, the ball off and run
right at him, that's how you beat Michael Parsons. That
being said, with all this podcasts and stuff, there's some
who could question is he all in? I think Michael
Parsons is all in on being that player. So for me,

(49:09):
when you're talking about what they say about assessmble doesn't
it doesn't bother me. But the fact of what they're
talking about. Listen, as much as I like DeMarcus Lawrence,
he ain't going anybody's Hall of Fame right now. When
you're out the door, you're only you're not in a
Ring of honor. Took Jimmy Johnson eight million years to
get in the Ring of Honor. He should have been
the year after he left with Dallas. So I have

(49:30):
no problem giving the jersey away, and fans shouldn't have
a problem with that either. What are we supposed to
do stick it away in.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
A locker room. Once you're out, you're not on contract
with me anymore. That jersey's available. You're in a Hall
of Famer. Sorry, you're going.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
And if Michael Parsons left today, I'm using him as well,
number eleven. Uh should we complain that? Well, Danny White
White Parsons get that. If Michael Parson's left is a
free age I got traded today. Guess what guess if
somebody wants number eleven, they can have it tomorrow. Now,
ten years from now, I may retire the jersey, but
right now I'm talking about today, Michael Parson's jersey would

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be used the next day for somebody else as well.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
And with the astros, I mean, you know, in that
same vein, somebody's gonna wear number two, somebody's gonna wear
number thirty.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Well, somebody's gonna wear number two maybe maybe unless you
retired the jury at some point in time, you're retiring
the jersey.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
So that's to see.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
We can comparing DeMarcus Lawrence and jose Al Tuvy, I
completely disagree with.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
I'm not sure someone's going to say took Jeff Blum's number.
Let's not loss over the fact there.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
The fact is when jose Al TV walks out the
door to give somebody his jersey the next day would
be disrespectful. Different story between him and DeMarcus Lawrence and
Tucker's thirty. Yeah, he was zero issue with given thirty
to anybody right now, zero issue he got traded he is,
he's not a Hall of Famer, he's a great player.
There's a lot of great players to get traded in.
The jersey goes somebody the next day. I have zero

(50:53):
issue that somebody has number thirty right now. If somebody does,
I don't even know if somebody does. But if somebody
wanted thirty when Kyle Tucker left fifteen minutes when they
when he moved on, and they traded him fifteen minutes later,
somebody walked into or off paradees walked in the door
and one to thirty, you can have it.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
If that's the case, I don't.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
I mean, why are we giving a jersey away to
everybody who spends five good years somewhere? I disagree those
are sacred when they're having hosey out two vas. Jersey
will be saying when I talk to sports sacred when
he retires, that jersey ain't going to anybody else right away.
I'm at least holding off until I decide is the
guy gonna be? Are we sticking it in the rafters?
That's and and you should so that's different. But with

(51:32):
Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker wasn't here, law, if you're on
Alvarez left tomorrow, his jersey's available the next day. Sorry,
at this stage, now, ten years from now, that made
that jersey, made that locker may not be available because
there may be a jersey in there until he sticking
in the rafters. So now, I don't know why we
get to this point, not you, but people, how dear, that's.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Disrespectful for Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 10 (51:52):
For what.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
If Kyle Tucker's career ended tomorrow, He's not in the
Ring of Honor whatever they call that here, He's not
hanging from.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
The rafters side. Yes, probably not Kyle Tucker. Yeah, but
you know what, Bregman's jersey can be worn by somebody.
I'll give it.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
He's left as a free agent. Bregman's what's so sacred?
He's great while he's here. Alex Bregman today is not
a Hall of Famer in Major League Baseball. He's not
close to a Hall of Famer Gold Glover.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I just don't know why.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
I mean, what do we got? Oh, I don't want
to hurt out Alex Bregman's wearing somebody else's jersey in Boston.
He don't deserve as new jersey not to be worn
by somebody else. I don't care if the body's not
cold yet or not. To me, it's Al two vas
different because he's been doing it a while, and just
because they were good for a minute. Listen, if somebody
wants Justin Verlander's jersey, they can have it until you

(52:42):
decide to put it in the rafters. And he wasn't
here fifteen years, so I had a Springer's Karres jersey.
You can have number one just as quickly. Now Kara
spans his career in fifteen years here. It may be
it may have been different. I we got this thing.
If you keep doing it to guys who've been here
short period of time, were good while they were here,
But now Hall of Famers have any freaking jerseys left. Uh,

(53:03):
you can give Alex Bregman's jersey away right right to
tomorrow and then maybe fifteen years if you decide, you know,
we're gonna put him up there. He won a couple
of Worlds Series here in the rest of Fine today. No, no, no,
that's not Al two Bay is the only guy on
this team right now. Who's jersey's sacred? The only guy
other than that there they it's free to go. You left,
You're free age somewhere else. Kyle Tucker gets traded. I

(53:25):
can wear number thirty tomorrow. And if it's an average player,
if if if Cam Smith is wearing number thirty, if
he was, I what am I hurting t Kyle Tucker's feelings?
Oh well, he didn't stay here. He wasn't here fifteen years.
He's not a Hall of Famer. He can move on.
His jersey's not sacred, there is and received all right?
Coming up next. I'm not even gonna give you the scenario.

(53:47):
I'm just gonna ask you which you do it. You
got to answer it right now, and you can give
us an answer on the other side if you want to.
Seon one three two on two five seven nine. He
once again that seven one three two on two five
seven ninety. It's the Shawn's Salisbury Show. He's Sean, He's
triple y. I'm Dan Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Why you're back?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Get back at it,
all right, Sean? What are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 8 (54:18):
The Salisbury stakeout sALS brief takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
It is a stakeout here, Sewn Salisbury Show, Sean Tripley,
Dan Matthews, Lance McCullers Junior. One inning of work yesterday
in the Astros four three loss to the Nationals. They're
back at it this afternoon against the you'll hear that
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Rockets trying to make it eight straight wins tonight against

(55:06):
the Magic five o'clock Right here, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Dodgers and Cubs sixty three, top of the eighth there
in Japan, the Dodgers in front of the Cubs, and
the first four of the NCAA Tournament.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Two games last night.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Horns playing the night seven point thirty against Xavier over
on KPRC nine fifty. All right, So I mentioned that
last one on purpose, Sean, because it's bracket challenge time.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Everybody's got them.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Either you've got them in your office, you might have
some with family, friends, whatever way it is, Where do
you stand by the way first, Before we really get
into this, there's a lot of the people out there,
the purists, who say you fill out one, that's your
one that's it. There's none of these, you know, kind
of like fantasy football. How many fantasy football teams you have? Well,
you know, I got one with work, got one with friends.

(55:54):
That's fine. But it seems like consistency is what people want.
When it comes to the bracket of you can't go
on social media and brag oh I had this number fourteen,
and then you have a buddy of yours check you
immediately saying no, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
You had UCLA beat. Right.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
If you pick the opposite team in two brackets, you're
going to get them all right, eventually you at least
have a beat. What I'm saying is you can you can. No,
I'm talking about in the first round the hedge. If
you pick you If you say, okay, I'm picking this
team in one round and this team onto mysel on
one bracket the other, you can claim both no matter what,

(56:30):
no matter where you go. I actually and listen, are
we making a big deal of it? You want to
fill out twenty five brackets?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Have at it?

Speaker 5 (56:35):
If you're asking me, do I give you? Do I
legitimize you? If you pick more than one and you
tell me, oh, I got it right? Absolutely not. I'm
a one bracket guy. So do you know what the
odds are of a perfect bracket?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah? Probably, like I would say, it's probably.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
Pushing in the bees the billion like like or a
nine hundred and ninety seven million to one, one two
trillion to one, you're getting even closer four trillion to one,
even higher eight.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Trillion to one, nine trillion to one.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I didn't even know that quinn trillion or quintillion was
a thing, but that five trillion is that five times trillion,
so a coin flips odds I was reading this wrong.
At coin flips ods are nine point two two quintillion
according to the NC double A. If you know ball,
it is one point or one hundred and twenty point

(57:29):
two billion, so one in one hundred and twenty point
two billion that you can get a perfect bread.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
If you're not getting one, you're just not so that
being said, excuse me, I should have I should have
turned my mic off. Sorry, but hopefully I didn't. You know,
clear my throat in your ear.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
You're all good.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
I Uh, I'm a one bracket guy because if you're
gonna do it, legit, like I said, you if you're
in five different office brackets and you wanted to head
your bet with a chance to win the SPA your money,
five different ways to do it, I because I even
wouldn't even feel good coming out of it. And if
you win one and lose another and you didn't pick

(58:07):
the same teams, then I really wasn't all in on
my teams that I picked, right.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I'm a one bracket guy.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Fill out one, roll with it, take a picture of it,
and share it with the people that you didn't want
to know.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I go one, and to me, I can't.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I can't give you credibility if you filled out four
brackets and you pick the one that gave you the
best score. I think that's weak and I won't. I
can't legitimize your college basketball either luck or knowledge.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
So let's say that you're one of the one in
one hundred and twenty point two billion right here, and
you do go and getet all the way through. Okay,
elon Musk SpaceX.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
And congratulations bringing those are astronauts home.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
I was going to say that was good to see yesterday.
I sure was finally able to bring them home. A
happy day, so his company. If you are able to
produce a perfect bracket two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
in cash, one year of free Starlink service, and a
chance to send a personal item to space on the

(59:08):
Falcon nine launch and you get to.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Go to space, right. Yes, No, he's taking you to
space as well. That's that's another one too.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
If you want to be one of the first people
to step foot on Mars, that is your chance.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Would I say on Mars Space You're going to Mars
and he's taking you.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
See and me and you were talking about this a
little bit before the show of At first you're kind
of like, you know, hey, go to go to Mars
on the you know, SpaceX starship.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Would you do it? And that was the would you
do it? Right there?

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Because my response was maybe down the road, but I
ain't gonna be the first.

Speaker 11 (59:45):
I know.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I know how that movie is.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Let's see two hundred and fifty thou all those things
you get to leave something on Mars when you go,
the one that makes me laugh. Let me throw it
a year at starlik. How about just give it us
a lifetime of Starlink guys. I think if you do,
you need to get a lot a lot of time
a star like right, but I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
I was thinking, okay, man, do you go? Is it
afraid that listen?

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
I'm always I'm a believer that when you got a
big fear, if you're nervous about something, do it, because
then you won't listen if you get on and go
up this. And they also, I think part of that
is he's going to let you train like an astronaut
for a day as well, go through the training at
the nasal. So there's a list of them. I think
it'd be nerve wracking the lead. It's like skydive and

(01:00:34):
if you've ever been skydiving and you're on the ascent,
and I said to the person when when I was that,
I did it in Arizona was a beautiful day. Man,
it was about eighty five degrees, clear skies. If you're
going to skydive, do it there because you're going to
get clear skies at this tight it's beautiful. So I
skydive it on the ascent. I say, well, what if
I don't want to do it, that's the one right here.

(01:00:54):
And you know what, the guy's the person who trained
me said he said no means yes, And so you're
like okay, and you get to fifteen thousand and you jump.
And on those smaller planes there's a platform you step
on and you got to jump, kick your legs and
your head back and go below the wing right. It's
because there's a little offset right, and so you're going

(01:01:15):
and it really the jump isn't the one that got you.
It's the the anticipation and anxiety on the ascent. It's
the roller coast, There's no question about it. You're trying
to bam and at least on the roller coaster, do
you feel like you're still on the ground on the plane.
Your first time you jump, You're like, I'm literally jumping
out of a perfectly good plane. But that fear because

(01:01:37):
my dad was an eighty second airborne in the Army.
So I always said, my pops did it a tribute.
I'm gonna jump on my dad's I'm gonna jump so
I can go back and talk to my pops about it, right,
And so we did, and it was phenomenal. And I
asked my dad, I said, what was the toughest jump,
the first of the last. He said, the last one
was because you've made it all, the last one and
it takes one to god that's exactly right. So I

(01:01:59):
think with this, I'm I'm empty in the bucket.

Speaker 11 (01:02:03):
Brother.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
If if if I was got a perfect bracket and
Elon Musk has taking me to Mars, I'm going imagine
the story's coming home now, and they say, well, if
you don't come home, I wouldn't know. I mean, at
least I'm going up there. And your kids say, well, dad,
by he didn't come home. Well, I'm not saying you're
not a hero because you're going on a free trip.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
You want to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
But you sat there and say, man, at least you gave.
I'd regret not going if I won more than I
would going. And being nervous. Of course, you're going to
be nervous. Of course, the g force, of course, all
those things you're gonna like, man, But the story value
coming home when you get home. Yeah, I'm all in.
I'm a guy who's a bit of a thrill seeker.
And while at first you'd say and the anticipation while

(01:02:44):
you're sitting and strapped in, I can't fathom what that
must feel like. I know what it'd like to jump
out of a plane. This is a little different, but
I would as a matter of fact, if you said, Sean,
the trip to Mars or take the two hundred and
fifty grand. If I had to choose between those two,
that's a no brainer. You keep money's gonna get spent.
You can never replace those memories. I'm going, I'm a
I'm facing that fear of if I'm ever coming home

(01:03:06):
or what's it going to be like. The anticipation of
what it really is going to be like makes me say,
screw fear. I've been afraid of. You know, I'm not
afraid of a lot of things, but I've been nervous
and afraid of some things. And I'm going, yeah, I
can you imagine what you'd feel like if you the
rest of your life you said no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
And when people say, well, you're it's not the it's
not the person who dies up. You know, if that
happened to you, you're like, you're I'm sure you're afraid
I gotta die and never come home. Well you won't
know it's the because it hits you so fast. You're
not gonna know. It's the people that there survive you
that are gonna like, oh, what a bummer. But they're
going to say at least they had to get to go.
I'm never not facing fears. You mentioned about being a hero.

(01:03:47):
You ever noticed how many people now are brave and heroic?
You know we throw out that all the time. We
call Britney grind or a hero. I mean the dumb
asses do. What's hero about having drugs in your bag
and going and and them rescuing you the United States?
We make a trade and you get to come home.
What was heroic about that? Other than stupidity? We rewarded stupidity.
She's not a hero. A guy who takes a bullet

(01:04:09):
protecting somebody, that's a hero. So I'm not a hero
if I go to Mars, but I would be, in
my mind a coward if I turned it down. So
I I yeah, I'm going. That's just for me. I
would I couldn't. I could not say no, noted Martian
Sean Salisbury. It is the Sean Salisbury Show?

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
What was that? Was it? The is it?

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Marvin Martian?

Speaker 12 (01:04:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Isn't he from the Flintstones? Isn't he the or on
the cartoon? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
He's the uh the Spain smat Jule Aine Thor? That
that guy?

Speaker 12 (01:04:40):
Right?

Speaker 11 (01:04:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
I like, yeah, I gotta go. I can't imagine, dude,
you didn't go just this year. Fact that my buddies
would say, come on, man, yeah, i'm a i'm a.
I'm a I'm gonna look the fear in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I'm going. If I got a perfect bracket and I
get to go, I'm on board. Let us know how
it goes. Would you ah, No, that I would. I
would not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Why just to yeah, and then you know I like
to oh, definitely, definitely. Then you can't go. Yeah, that's
that's one of my years talking about skydiving. The that's
the one right there. The legs start to shake, all
of that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Yeah, when you jump to look out there and you
say and I'm free Yeah, free balling or free falling,
either one. Well you're doing both. Yeah, you really your balls? No,
it's very true.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
So there you brother, I'm facing the fear. I'm on it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Sean Sewan's are being fitted for a space helmet as
we speak, so we'll get the reports on that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Don't bury the lead, the perfect brackets, the lead, that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
You got to You got a better chance of going
to Mars and coming back safe then you do perfect bracket.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
There's always a fairly Dickinson or somebody out there all right?
Coming up next the road ahead for the Rockets. Just
how rocky is it? We will talk about that and
continue on with the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
The Seawan Salisbury shown you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Look who's on the mound for the Cubs making his
Cub's debut, Ryan Presley and he's got one on with
one out and Chicago down by three.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Had to get him a little work. Being the fact
that it's not a non safe situation you don't want
to go to get I mean, you got to get
him some work as you get rolling here at the
start of the season. And what have we got the
eighth inning, they're down three? Yeah, top nine to nine?
Oh there you go? Okay, top end of there? What
am I saying? Because the Dodgers are the home team,
So getting Presley some work? It's time and he gets

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to face Otani this inning too, so God bless him
early on. You need to get him some work. And
I hope Ryan Presley succeeds in Chicago. I really do good.
One of the one of the good guys.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
I you know, I always had good interactions with him,
and I also had a built in relationship already a
mutual friend that he played with in Minnesota, A name
dropped him and ever since then, you know, that's the
thing to trust.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Fact.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Yeah, yeah, you know when whenever you don't know someone
and it's kind of a you know, situation of they
can kind of look at you as all right, you know,
why are you approaching me? What's what's in it for
you is always make the mutual connection, because then it's say, hey,
if you're friends with them, then you must be an
all right guy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
You take a deep breath.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
That's I say, Okay, he's coming to me, because if not,
it's like then you call your buddy up and say
you sent this guy to come talk to me, right yea,
But yeah, that's that's usually and it's in truth in
that situation. It's a name drop for the right reasons,
not the wrong ones. Well, and there is comfort zone.
There is also the other side.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
There is also a lot of that in clubhouses and
locker rooms of you know, yeah, hey, hey, so and
so is a good buddy of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Day in a good buddy of yours.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
I had a good buddy because you sent a tweet
to him and ask him, if you could go up
and is he a good guy? I'm going to go
up and talk to him. And now all of a sudden,
your buddy's Now that's a big difference. Here's the way
I look at it from my perspective. I'm nearly forty now,
most of these guys are in their early twenties. What
personally do I have in common with them? Seriously? What
what personally could I possibly have with somebody who is

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completely in a different generation than I am, and also
in the mean when you're I don't know what what
agenda anybody would have to go up to a guy.
Hey I met somebody. You're just looking to talk to somebody.
It's just that's my boy. That's why I CJ's my guy. Yeah,
because you interviewed him once. No, you just have an interview.
That right, and I and I understand that some people

(01:08:16):
want to do that, but you're exactly right. It's validation.
It's a comfort zone. You know, haven't been on both
sides of it. When somebody's I mean, I saw your
buddy the other day. We have a mutual friend. Okay,
I got, I'm good to go. It gets for the
right reason.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
It gets back to being genuine, like a guy I
worked with in Atlanta was genuine good friends with Chipper
Jones for that very reason. He's a genuine guy. He
wasn't coming to him as, oh my god, you're Chipper
Jones looking for a story. It was it was, Hey,
you know what this guy actually is somebody that I
can I can get along with, and we've got a
lot in common and I know him on a personal level.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
I don't know him as an interview subject. Most athletes
can see through that. They if you're not transparent, they
can see it. Yeah, and even if you if you're
transparent coming at them for a reason that they may
they may not like, at least they'll they'll you know,
the worst way to get to them is bs them

(01:09:09):
and then pull the old okie dokee, meaning I'm here
for one reason, and by the time the interview's over,
you're trying to pin them into something they weren't that
they didn't want to be pinned into. That your agenda
is different than when you walked up and approached them.
I've always felt that you know why I'm here, and
if I'm here for the reasons or if it's a
not a smear thing. But if it's you know, if
we've lost eight in a row and I'm not approaching

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you because the trade talks that we're talking about trading them,
I'm not here to tell you that you're going to
be the MVP of the league. We're here to talk
about that once they know. Now whether they want to
engage in it or not, it's a nothing. I've just
always believed in approach athlete, You'll always have great relationships
with them if you're not there to bs them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
It's just you got to have it predicated on truth.
And I've had confidence. I'm not confrontations, that's a strong word,
but I've had where I've been taking the task on
something that I've said and then my response is all right,
well let's talk about it. What did What did I
say that you didn't agree with? And if it's something
based in fact, I'm like, dude, that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
I can't help you with that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Like I based it on something that is factual, statistics,
whatever it might be. And it wasn't a personal shot
against you. I don't have a problem with you personally.
It was about your performance, right, And my job is
to give an opinion on your performance, whether you like
it or not, and.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
The opposite is true if you're giving an opinion on
the athlete's performance. He's quite frankly just as as as
in a position to turn around and say, well, I
read the article and I thought it was I thought
it was wrong, and I thought you approached it wrong,
and what your opinion was wrong on that even though
it's your opinion. And see as media when we go

(01:10:43):
at him, why is he so sensitive? But I also
know this there's media on the other side that when
the athlete throws it right back in their lap, they're
too sensitives.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Well, if you're Rob Peter, you better be prepared to
pay Paul. That's the way.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing too, is I mean,
you know, one of the rules that was supposed to
be in this business is don't make yourself the story.
But way too often that's the case. And again you're
seeing seeing through the bs. That's what a lot of
it is is. It's like, you know, you're not doing
this for the sanctity of your industry or anything like that,
You're doing it to serve yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:11:13):
Well, the problem is if it's self serving and whenever
as a media member, you decide you're bigger than the
actual sport, just like when a player thinks he's bigger
in the sport, bad idea. It never works right, And
I always say this is it. I You'll always be
safe as a media MEMBERY. I'm not preaching. I'm for me.
I've approached like this. You'll always be safe if you're
there to report it, not create it. If I can

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report it and give an opinion on it, I'm not
creating it by giving an opinion. But if you're there
to create news, you go into it that the story's
not you and you make it you. That's creating news.
That's where the problem comes in. But if you're there
to report it and opinion on, you know, give it,
opine on it. I don't have a problem with it,
never have, And especially most athletes, when you suck or
had a game and a guy comes up and basically

(01:11:56):
the conversation is going to be that you know you
suck to that day, then you can put a smile
on your face say just wasn't me. I those guys
that the athletes that think that they're never going to fail,
and when somebody you have a bad day that we're
supposed to tall you had a great day, then that's
that's BS two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
We all have them, and quite frankly, some more than others.
And it's just the way it works. So when you
perform poorly and somebody's coming at you to talk to
you about your performance, I think you have a pretty
good idea. When I threw four picks in a game
against Seattle and it was one of those days that
I couldn't have walked out and handed it to the
guy right, Yet the next week you come back and
it's like, damn, I can close my eyes and complete

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the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Happens all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
They weren't approaching me in the locker room after the
game to tell me, Sean, what's the Pro Bowl appearance
going to be?

Speaker 10 (01:12:39):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
It was like, boy, what a rough day. And you
go and saying, yeah, man, I sucked and I let
my teammates down, and hopefully that won't happen again because
it was a bush league and a horrible performance by me.
And when you go about it that in a team
effort and understanding the big picture, then you don't ever
come out of an interview offended. And if somebody says
you are very good today, the answer is yeah, I know. Yeah,

(01:13:02):
thanks Captain obvious. Yeah, I appreci sure it was.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Yeah, he's made it even better, right, all right, Hopefully
things continue to stay better for the Rockets.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
We'll find out.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Are there smooth skies ahead for the hometown basketball team.
We'll discuss that as we close out seven o'clock hour here
on the Seawn Salisbury Show. Sean Tripoli, Dan Matthews here,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:13:25):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
And the Texas Longhorn is going to be in first
four action of the night NCAA Tournament taken on Xavier
with a chance to move on to the round of
sixty four. That's gonna be over on KPRC nine fifty,
starting at seven point thirty. The Rockets right now, though, Sean,
I mean, you know, things going good at the moment,
after for about a month and a half not going great,

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as they were losers of six straight at one point,
losers of three straight, but now six straight wins on
their home floor, a win in New Orleans before that,
that's trying to make it eight tonight. Things looking good
at the moment, but if you ask John on the
northwest side at someone three two one two five seven ninety,
he might wonder if this maybe is as good as

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it gets.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
John, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
Hey guys, good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
I was just gonna say that, Uh, for the Rockets,
I think the encouraging thing about it is they're starting
to peek and gel at the right time. Uh, you know,
as long as there's not injuries that happen and things
like that. But they're really I mean it was I
thought it was huge that they came back from twenty
five down. I mean, they're clearly trying to fight for that,
you know, second spot in the Western Conference, and uh,

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but it's but I like it that they're really starting
to gel, playing good ball, playing good team ball, and hopefully,
if you know, if they're kind of injury free. I
like going into the playoffs on an uptick. I think
that's that's what's really important, that they're getting it together
at the right time, and uh, you know, we'll see
what happens. I I like what I'm seeing. I think,

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you know, the trend is is upwards, and I think
that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
John.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
You think they're finals ready this year or we are
year away. Let's forget lesson, let's even forget the finals.
Let's say Western Conference Finals. And by the way, before
you go, I think I said you made it. It's
the Cubs that are the home team. I was just
I'm losing. I think I said the Dodgers. But the
Cubs are up in the bottom of the night, right
down three. So I wanted to make sure I clear

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that up for people that may not have it on
the TV. John, go ahead, back to it. Do you
think they're Western Conference Final good?

Speaker 11 (01:15:34):
I do?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 6 (01:15:35):
I think I think if they play like they're playing now,
I think they are Western Conference Final good. Beyond that,
I don't know, but I mean, you know, we'll just
have to see, because this will be new ground. You
know that they're making the post.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
What's your biggest concern about them, John, to be honest,
just injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:15:56):
I just hope that that they can stay healthy and
just keep it together and and I think I think
that's the main thing I think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
To me.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
Other than that, my concern is hopefully Jalen Greek and
keep lifting his game, and I think he's really key
on this. But yeah, I would say that, you know,
Jalen Green and just staying free from injuries and staying
healthy and you know, just playing good ball. I think
they got a good coach and I think with that combination,

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I think they can do some really great things this year.

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
I really do, John, Great stuff, thanks for calling. Imagine
imagine this, John. We just think how quickly we're saying
this a year removed from a forty one to forty
one record, but also a year and a half removed
from a coach bay or two year big from a
coach being fired. It's a year and a half or
a little more than that, and us wondering if this
team's ever going to get back there in the twenty
win category. And now look where they are, we're talking

(01:16:54):
about them in the Western Conference finals. Great stuff, John,
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
And I mean it's also you know, looking at their
path to get to that point, because you got to
Orlando tonight, a team you've already beaten once. You want
to be able to exact revenge on Tyler Hero and
the heat for coming into your building on that Sunday
night and beating you. Here he and men Thompson getting
into it. Maybe that's the other emphasis for a men
Thompson to get back is Yeah, you want to go

(01:17:19):
up against Tyler hero after that mix up you had
with him. But also though too coming back from the ankle,
you don't want to bring him back too early. You know,
we saw it with Fred he was out for a
little bit more time, So you want to have a
men Thompson for the long run.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
There.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
I say the opening part of that just really more
of a joke. But you get the Nuggets here at home,
and you've still got too out in LA against the Lakers.
You've also got I thought they had another one on
the road against Denver, But the other game that you're
gonna play against Denver is gonna be here on your
home floor, and that's the final game of the regular

(01:17:55):
season at that point too. So hopefully things are locked
up by them. Yeah, that'd be nice. And we know
they're going to be a playoff team. Where and who
we don't know, but I can tell you this, I
would think that you don't want to spend a lot
of time playing them because they are a dangerous team
when it's all bought in at the right time. Long
series against a good team, I think this team is

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gonna be I definitely think they get through the first
round and then we'll see how it goes from there.
Let's say they stay in the second spot, maybe they
get either Minnesota or La the Clippers. At that point,
they can handle them both. They the Clippers, they would
win in five games. I think they can handle them both.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
I agree with you on Adam.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
I mean, the only wildcard you have with the Timberwolves
is Anthony Edwards and that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Guy capable of dominating a game.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
But it's also I mean, even though they've got Rudy Gobert,
they've got a decent enough team with Julius Randall, I
just still feel like top to bottom, you're a better
DETA series are agreed one to eight, Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Yeah, So we'll.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
See how it all shakes out when it's all said
and done with the Rockets. Do you want to get
into some Texans conversation because this characteristic of Nick Casserio's
general managing abilities. I think it is his best when
it comes to the Houston Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
As the Rockets tonight look going to make it eight
straight wins. They are in Orlando taking on the magic.
We'll get it started here on Sports Talk seven ninety
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Astros yesterday for three losers to the Nationals and Great
Fruit League action. That's not the story though. Lance mccullors

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Junior his return to the mound, at least a game mound,
and he goes one inning as he throws thirteen pitches.
He does hit a batter, but he gets a couple
of groundouts and also a line out. Dodgers two to
oho to start the regular season, a six to three
final out in Tokyo against the Cubs and Kyle Tucker

(01:20:41):
no longer hitless for the Cubs, one for four and
that one hit coming in the ninth inning off Alex Vesia,
an opposite field double off the left field wall.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
I fully expect Tucker to have a good season there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
I expect that ballpark to be really favorable for him,
and he'll play good out Philly. Stays healthy. When the
season's over, he'll be a thirty twenty guy, mid thirty
twenty guy, and I think he'll do. Listen the guys,
when you're a good baseball playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
He's got to do. Stay healthy. When he stays healthy,
numbers come.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
He's a great player, and they have him with the
top twenty five still in the you know, an MLB
network comes out. The players in the league hold him
in high regard. He's a five star. He's a five
tool player. Ever since the word He's got them all.
Ryan Presley did make his Cub's debut. He throws sixteen pitches,
only four strikes from Ryan Presley. He walks three, but

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he leaves them on base, does not allow a single
run to come home, double play, and hit into a
double play, walk back to back hitters in the inning
as well, that was a problem here when he was
in the eighth at times to not be able to
locate the strikes. And I'm talking about later and it's
you know, in the eight hole. But it's his first appearance,
and so once again you'll get people there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Can say, oh, man, glad to get rid of me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
He's gonna be fine, But he I think it's also
going to be a matter of him getting his finding
his way back to knowing that.

Speaker 10 (01:22:05):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
I don't know are they gonna are he is he
going to be? Have they guaranteed? He's the closer there.
He is right now correct pitch the ninth innings, even
though it wasn't a closer situation to give work in.
So I'm assuming and I would expect him to be
a little more settled in than he was last year
and go back to how he felt in the closure
of the question is how good will the Cubs be

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and put him in position to do it and his
confidence rolling. I would imagine after today, even though it's
his first start, competitors don't like it. And it's not
a matter if somebody hit you, it's a matter of
that you free passed him. He can't free past three
that's something he's gonna have to fix, no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
As the regular season is underway, and the Dodgers too,
and oh the Cubs zero and two, So we'll see
if the Dodgers are able to we're on the table
with the rest of the one hundred and sixty they
got this season.

Speaker 5 (01:22:51):
Would you bet me if I said you took the under,
I'll just said it at one hundred and five. Would
you bet me a grand did I'll take the over?
What would you would you be way to better? Would
you say I.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Want the over?

Speaker 13 (01:23:05):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
What kind of what kind of juice am I getting
in terms of if I asked for the money up
front to be able to you know, I'll go out
the front.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
I'll give you fifteen hundred to my thousand, Okay, okay
for a buck five. You're taking the over under, And
the opposite's true. If you take the over and I
get the under, you got to give me fifteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
I got the under.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
I think they're like one on one, really, yeah, I
think they're I think they're one on one, even though
I mean they're loaded top to body.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
They won ninety eight games last year.

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
Previous season games, so I mean, I'm feeling about my best,
are you?

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
I know that Brett Boone was on a buddy of
mine's show and he thinks the Mariners record because he.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Was on that team. What was it? Buck sixteen? Was
that a fuck fourteen?

Speaker 6 (01:23:50):
He had?

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Like the ninety eight Yankees whatever they were where they
were like, I mean, they win like one hundred and
twenty that season. Whatever record they set, I thought the
last time a team one. I thought though since in
the last couple of decades. I thought it was their
last three decades, whatever it is. I thought that it
was the Mariners that had the best record. Has anybody

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exceeded there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
What won? Sixteen?

Speaker 7 (01:24:12):
One?

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Fifteen? Somewhere there?

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
But Brett Boone was a told a buddy of mine
on a show that he said, sixteen there you go,
that they lost. He felt that was in danger.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
And the Yankees won one hundred and fourteen and ninety eight, right,
So the Mariner is still over the last in your lifetime,
the Mariners have won the most games in a.

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
In a regular season and they lost. That's exactly right.
So with that where he went to the Rangers. After
Rangers he and got that big deal which we thought,
Oh my gosh, blockbuster deal. That's only five hundred million
away from what Soto got. Think about that, now, there's perspective,
but perspective, but I can tell you, so you still
want that. Brett Boone's a little bit. He said there

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is a concern. He thinks that that's in danger. So
with that in mind, you'd still take the under for
what you'd have to give up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Yeah, I mean, I just I think I think there's injuries.
I think that it's also there's losing streaks there.

Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
I think they're good enough to overcome injuries, and I
think they're hungry enough to prove that it wasn't a
one year wonder. I think that that's I think one
hundred and ten wins is definitely in danger.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Well getting that, getting that World Series out of the way,
which I mean, I know that they won the COVID year,
but even they admitted as much that they were like,
we didn't look at it as being a true championship
season for us, and that's why I think last year
was so huge for them to go out there and
try to prove it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
But we have a little bet that guys have a bet.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Yeah, we got we gotta side, actually hundred for one
hundred for eleven, one hundred for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
A buck fifty. Okay, meet you there.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
Okay, so I'll take the over for my hundred and
I'll give you a buck fifty if they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
The odds right, shaken on it. There it is, there,
it is. We we've shaken on it. We're good to
go on that one. The Astros though, also, I think
I've seen eighty six for the over under this season,
and that's about where they've been the last couple of years,
that high eighties number. Trying to touch ninety. Well, ninety
wins the division, I believe, I don't. I don't think

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the I think ninety runs away with it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
I think the ninety and you probably not worried about
the last series of the season. I think that you
can win the You win ninety games, you win the division,
and it'll be competitive division because there's three really good
teams in this division.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
And I mean the loud pard that I throw out
in this and you know, when I was hosting with
Matt Thomas once he he didn't see it that way,
kind of laughed at me about it was. I said,
don't write off the A's that's a team that's going
to be scrappy this year.

Speaker 5 (01:26:31):
Oh, I think they're going to disrupt the playoff picture.
I just don't think they have enough bodies of I mean,
I don't think they can sustain ninety wins and be
in the being the division. They'll hang around early. I
just don't think when all is said and done, that
they can. But they're a team that will somewhere along
the line with these other teams in the division that

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they will have a hand in screwing you over that
you had a chance to win the division. They beat
you two out of three and you end up losing division.
There is no doubt that there's that kind of team.
Do you know the most expensive ticket I think in
baseball this year?

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
What close?

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
I think the Ace and Sacramento fourteen thousand seeds. I
think the average ticket. Unless I read it wrong, it's
in like a buck nineteen or a buck twenty something.
I now listen, I'm not talking about the premium seats
behind the home plate at the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
I think the average seat. And they're not even in
Vegas yet.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
I think the ballpark in Sacramento, and maybe they're charging
more because it's small that they want the rest. They
don't get the twenty even though nobody was showing up.
You know what I'm saying about people. People will show
up in Sacramento now, especially in a minor league type ballpark.
So I think, if I'm not mistaken, unless I was tripping,
read that they that on an average seat, that they
might be the most expensive ticket in baseball this year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Think about that now, Well, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
You've got bills to pay, you've got players, you've got
I mean, just the organization.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
Charge when the stadium shrinks, so you can expand and
at least cover your nut before you get there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
No pun intended, I.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Was going to say, I mean, there's there's many different
ways you want to be able to try to do that,
and number one, you just want to make sure you're covered.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Well some So I mean, who knows afraid you're good? Yeah?
The A's may raw dog it all the way to Vegas. See.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
I saw that commercial for that the other night, and
immediately to Megan, my fiance, I just go, who watches this?
And who even has the the urge to go on
that show? Of what's the premise of the show. Well,
it's called naked and a frame.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Well you know the name, so you know the name
and when it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
Airs, so you tell us, Danny, Well, I just say
I've seen the promos.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Yeah, I seen the promos. I don't even know what
sources close to you have told you this.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
Sources close to getting married, by the way, November, Yeah, Scedona, Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Nice. Yeah, one of the great spots in the country.
I hear that. Yeah. Is it quiet private or you
bring it all your peeps?

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Quiet private?

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Yeah, Because it's also what it becomes is you start
sending out save the dates, you start sending out invitations,
and then people have the nerve to ask you why
they weren't invited to your wedding, and the response is, well,
it's my wedding, so I'll have there who I want.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
To party later or whatever?

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
Right, And that's what we're that's gonna be the everyone
thing is we're gonna have a party when we come back,
and that'll be a hey, you came to our wedding,
no gifts.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
So my boy, my middle son's getting married in October
and that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
So Big Island, Oh cool.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
So I'd be curious to know what as you're planning
who's had the most say in the wedding? Who's had
the most say in the wedding?

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
It's mostly her, And that's the way it's supposed to go, right,
I mean, it's it's supposed to show up. She well,
funny enough, good story on that. My mom had always
had mentioned that, and Megan goes, that's where I want
to get married. I was like, wow, that's kind of
chance occurrence right there. So we just kind of came
to it right there. But she was she was the
urging that's November. Yeah, it's gonna be beautiful and in Scottsdale.

(01:29:57):
Then when I say Scottsdale in Sedona, well, I mean
won't be farsome. Man, maybe we'll have a lot of steel.
To a guy that knows a lot about Scott Steele,
guy that's set in this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Show, he's been to forty seven weddings, I was just
gonna say, how many more weddings do you have? Lolma?
He just had one last weekend. I think.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
I mean every time he turned around the guys with
some bachelor party.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Hey, oh hey.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Bro Dan, first time, long time driving into work, big
fan of the show.

Speaker 8 (01:30:23):
Heard y'all talking about nutt and mother stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
I just want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Has Brandon called in yet?

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
He is not?

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Today?

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
Hey a long time caller or first time caller, longtime listener?
Are you a are you a Cody Johnson and Lady
Wilson fan?

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Where this guy? Anybody not love it?

Speaker 12 (01:30:59):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
He wants he said, do you guys are talking about
nut and all that nuts? And were Brandon at? Oh? Man,
he's priceless, He's he's the best.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
Oh, he's got a wedding probably today, he's probably driving
to a bachelor party. Probably he'll probably go in and
see Brian will get done more done in sales in
two hours than most get done in a day. And
then he's probably got a bachelor party or something to
go to this afternoon on a on a Wednesday. Listen,
you say, well, who has a bachelor party on Wednesday? Well,
Brian's got about eight million of his former players and

(01:31:29):
people are getting married that he has to go and
be a bach go to bachelor party. The guy's all
over the country doing it. You know what he is,
it's the act's ubiquitous. Well he's that, but he's g
a I he gets after it. That's a no brainer.
But he's a big from what I understand our our
first time callers, a really big Cody Johnson, he's really
big on first responders. And Lane Wilson, Landy Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Yeah, she dials, she dials up the accent.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
Well, you know, there's sources close to me have said
that that's real. Okay, Now Brian's one that believes this
with you. Yeah, he's like that is so made for TV.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
Obviously, Devilon Hodges like the Duck Hodges though. Yeah, speaking
of engagements, right there.

Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
Where are my first responders at.

Speaker 6 (01:32:16):
Why are you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Why are you yelling at the audience? We just came
here to enjoy the show. Why are you yelling at it?

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
Bride Bride does? Bride does it? Where are my first
responders at it?

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Hey, lady, come on up, let's start in the bible.
Going to a Kenniston show. I was coming here to
see a good concert. That's all I wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
If I could bring three comedians at it, you know, yeah,
well you should hear Swardson do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
What's his what? I no? No?

Speaker 11 (01:32:44):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
Swarts and who's like the comedian's the Saturday Live guy
who passed away?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Gosh, thang.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
I was at his than on Friday, talked about it
the whole time. No, he has that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Hey Swarty, Uh what I just talked about it with.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
Let's put it in the hot yeah, man, but we're
going Sam Kennison would be third. But give me if
I could get Prior and Carlin to come out of yeah,
come out of the grave and put a show on
for me, I'd love it. But Kennison's yelling in somebody's face. Well,
not only but you also Nor McDonald, y Norm McDonald.
You should hear Swartz and do Norm.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
McDonald the best? I mean, not only with that. The
weekend update with OJ Norm was one of a kind.
And with Kennison you had to worry about if you're
sitting in front row you might get a stool thrown at.

Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
You and guess what, priceless There you go. He knew
how to work a crowd, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Coming up next mentioned Nick Assario the best part of
him being a GM of the Texans. We'll get into
that here as we roll along here on the Sean
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 8 (01:33:48):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, and now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
And you can hear the horns and Xavier seven thirty
tonight over on kPr nine fifty and the Texan's going
to introduce I mean I say introduce. He's been in
the building, so there's not really an introduction needed with
Derek Stingley Junior.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
But just agreed to that deal. It's officially official.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
He'll talk with the media a little bit later on
today and assume that Nick Assario will be alongside him.
And when it comes to the draft for Nick Cassio,
I mean you talked, you talked about it the other day.
I gave you the negative when it came to his
perceived evaluation of offensive linemen that I'm not not as much
a believer in that part of his game as as

(01:34:36):
you are. But you touched on how he's drafted over
the last few years, that that's the reason why you're
a big believer and you're not gonna hit him all
You're just not And I mean he's proven that too.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
And listens, as we talked about yesterday, there would have
been a lot of guys who would have busted on
Kenyon Green. Now he's gonna have a chance to revitalize
his career on a and he better be good because
Philadelphia's offensive line doesn't play. If you go there and
you're gonna pillow fight, you won't. You just want he
won't make the team, he'll be gone. But there's enough
potential there and coaches always think they can they can

(01:35:08):
take a guy with potential and fix it, right, So
there's that. But Okay, how many misses has he had?
Not just on the on the on the line, go
around league or go round team. He didn't miss on
on on the corners? Definitely not Petree, no Bullock, no, uh,

(01:35:29):
the trade to get Hunter, No, Will Smith, I mean
Will Smith, Will Will Uh, Will Anderson. I'm thinking we
got got Cam Smith, Will Smith and Cam Cam Newton
and Cam Anderson and all kinds of cams and and
uh Cam Hayward who talks about Aaron Rodgers here him
talking and now we got uh. But he didn't miss
on Will Anderson. He didn't miss on the quarterback. He

(01:35:53):
hasn't missed on Tank Dell. Unfortunately injuries had missed there.
He did not miss on Stefan Diggs. It's just the injury.
Mechi hasn't missed on him yet. Think what Mechi's gone
through still on the roster, So you start to go
through it Obviously Tunsel was here before he got here.
We don't know about Fisher yet. We can go up

(01:36:15):
and down the stret he brought in Al Shaire. I mean,
do you start to look around how many true misses
he missed on the first first year head coaches. But
that's not even to That's exactly what I was gonna say.
It was a bridge you will get in there no
matter what. He was going to do that, no matter what,
he didn't want to commit long term to two good

(01:36:36):
guys and one who's been a great assistant for years
and Lovey Smith, who's been a culture builder and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Has been successful. There's no there's no question.

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
He was in Chicago and in other places and it
was the perfect bridge that was there was a plan there.
Now Lovey goes and takes you to the playoffs and
you get to the AFC Championship game. He's longer than
a year, right, so you start to roll through it.
Tell me where Nick Cassio and he's got a great coach.
Now you tell me where Nick Cassario. If you're grading

(01:37:07):
him compared to other gms, and you know, maybe Howie
Roseman isn't fair because he's dominated. I mean he could
be the executive year every year. But start to think
about now what he's done here even and I've always
was fascinated when oh, we don't want the Patriot way.
The only reason people said that, one reason is because

(01:37:28):
they didn't like Bill O'Brien's abrasiveness, and they didn't like
and O'Brien was a they went to won the division
four times. I believe with Bill O'Brien here with no
quarterback and those Deshaun Watson, you can dislike Bill O'Brien
all you want. Bill O'Brien is an x's and o's
guy is held in extremely high regard by the college
and NFL world, And I'm and guys that know far

(01:37:49):
more about x's and o's than we do or any
fan that's listening. Fact, So the problem with Bill O'Brien
is abrasive. He wasn't real good in interviews, and Bill
O'Brien got too much power and it ruined him as
a head coach. Because Bill O'Brien is the head coach,
he's not a front office guy. And when you try
to be a doctor and a lawyer, you can't do either. Well,
you don't go to law school and medical school at

(01:38:10):
the same time, you go to one or the other.
He tried to do both, and now he's the head
coach of Boston College and they'll do well. And he
did well as an assistant. So you tell me now,
when we talk about the best executives, the way they've
done things in this league, to tell me where Nick
Casseio's missed on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
It's not even necessarily about missing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
It's just building off a conversation that Adam and Adam
had yesterday that I've brought up before about Nick Asseio,
and this is where he gets an A for me
is he doesn't overthink it when it comes to the draft.
So just to kind of build it up and I'll
go through these as quickly as possible. First year, very
few picks, but you got Nico Collins out of that draft,

(01:38:51):
big school guy you also is truthfully a first round talent, absolutely,
and you've been able to get a ton of value
out of him. And clearly, I mean it shows you
that with him get into the second contract in the
way that he's played. But the second year, this is
when you really started to see Nick Casserio in the
way that he wants to approach the draft. Derek Stingley
junior LSU major program, Kenyan Green, Texas A and M

(01:39:14):
major program. There's expectations so far amiss, right, right? But
you know you get Jalen Petrie from Baylor a little
bit of success here in the recent going, but John Mitchicks.

Speaker 5 (01:39:23):
A little bit of success Baylor or Petrie well both,
But yeah, I think Petrie's a hell of a players.
He's done well for himself here into Texans UNI John
Mitchi and Christian Harris the third round, both out of Alabama.
I think we can understand what expectations are in that program. Well,
who's Alabama's Nick Saban when he's there, who's his one
of his closest coaching friends in the business, Bill Belichick? Right,

(01:39:46):
and so there's a trust of intelligent, good, smart football
players that know how to play and compete. Nick Castaio's
not stupid, he was around Belichick for twenty years. Go
get the guys who the guy likes. You know, you
want to be the guy that knows, the guy who
gets the guy who can recommend the pretty smart, pretty smart.
When you also go get somebody who probably knows more
about football than Nick Caseo meaning Nick Saban Smart moved

(01:40:07):
by him, but we.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Also, I mean twenty twenty three a guy out of
Ohio State, pretty good quarterback, a guy out of Alabama,
pretty good edge rusher, and then last year a guy
out of Georgia Kamari Lassiter. The next guy Notre Dame.
They're known for a pretty good offensive lineman. And we'll
see what happens with Blake Fisher. But also to Kylen Bullock.

(01:40:28):
I mean, you know what the program.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
Round pick and he started and is you haven't even
seen his best but he still doesn't know how to
play yet.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
But you know what the expectations are at USC, even
though the success hasn't followed, you're still expected to win
there at USC. We can carry this over on the
other side. But more than anything, what I appreciate about
Nick Cereo he doesn't overthink it. He's not going to
be the guy that hey, so and so is right there,
all right, hey go get him and you draft the
guy from North Dakota State. I mean, it's just it

(01:40:56):
seems like these gms so overthink it, where it's it's like,
let me show you how smart I am as opposed
to no, they'll show you how good they are.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Here's what you do in the first round, in my opinion,
which you don't do. Should I say?

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
The Raiders have been as a Raider fan my whole life,
the Raiders under you know, when Gruden Mayock at times
and in the past the Raiders even when Al Davis
was there. If you had speed, you're getting drafted. And
Al's is a brilliant was a brilliant football guy. Right
is what they do at times. You talk about overthinking,
which is a great point. It's almost like they try

(01:41:30):
to shock value you at the first round pick. It's like, well,
you could have got that kind of third round, or
you could have got him in the twenty eighth pick.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Why are you picking him seventh? That's who the Raiders
have been.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
Nick Caserra says, well, big program doesn't mean every good
player is from a big program, big program, proven track record.
What why do I got to not go get Will Anderson?
And with that you can't in the first round. I
can't be I can't have a hope pick. Now they're
all hope picks. But you know what I'm saying, I
got to have closer to the you that you there's

(01:42:01):
no leave is going to be a that can make
Comedia impact for you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
I know I've been around.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Football guys that love the optics, that want to please
the fan or want to please the media with the pick.
I don't think Nick Casseira, and I think being around
Belichick had helped him all those years. Whether you liked
it or not. They're picking smart players, productive players in
college and taking recommendations from coaches that get it. What
Nick Caseio doesn't do is care what you or I

(01:42:27):
think about who he's drafting. And the second you start looking,
letting fans or us in the medium make your decisions
even though we have an opinion. But if you're worried
about our decisions more than yours in the room and
what the optics look like if we take a guy,
then you will fail as a front office guy. Darryl
Royle said it famously. You start worrying about what the

(01:42:48):
fans say. Soon enough you're sitting with them Dan buying
them beer. Exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
All right, more on this on the other side, because
I mean, there is a method to the madness. We'll
discuss that here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Sean Salisbury triple,
Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews Sports Talk seven ninety and.

Speaker 8 (01:43:05):
I had to live out there for the Sean Salisbury
Show continued.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
To kind of build off.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
You know, this was something that I brought up before
and again, you know, I heard Adam and Adam talking
about this yesterday, But I mean the strategic approach to
the top of the draft with Nick Casserio is one
that I appreciate for that very reason is, again, you
know that you're getting a guy if they played at
Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, any of these schools that have

(01:43:33):
huge expectations, huge exposure, and the expectations that go with
it is you're going to win, and you're going to
win a lot, and if you don't, then you got
to answer for it. So the thought there, Sean, is
when those guys get into an NFL locker room, they're like,
I've played around these guys. I know these guys, the
guys that were in front of them when they were freshmen,

(01:43:55):
the guys that they were around when they were sophomores,
and then they finally get their chance when they're juniors
and they see guys that are on to the next
level and they're playing and they're talking with them, they
see how they train, they do all those different types
of things that they get into an NFL locker room,
they're kind of like, I've done this, what's new about this?

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
You have more pressure on the player from a small
school to perform than there is, I mean more pressure
on the front office guy to perform when you draft
somebody from Montana State or Idaho State or North Dakota State.
Good program good programs, But there's more pressure on the
front office guy because you're taking a risk by playing

(01:44:32):
by by doing that. On the other side, more pressure
on the player to perform. Because if you really were
a CYA general manager and you were like worried about
your job, First of all, I don't know how you
would operate looking over your shoulder as a GM all
the time. But if you're doing it, Yeah, if you're
worried about your job, then you always draft somebody from
a big school. What's if you draft Will Anderson coming

(01:44:55):
out of school, doesn't the pressure fall on the player?
Because this was obvious I had you'd get more, you'd
get more flak if you don't take Will Anderson. Then
if you do so that that pressure so if you're
really going to cover your ass situation, if you're a
GM that says, oh, I'm doing it to cover my job.
I want to keep getting paid, go draft from all
the big schools. And then it falls on to how
could you you know, we don't really rarely say how

(01:45:18):
could you miss on a guy if Nick Saban coached him.
Now you go to Montes State and get a guy
you're like, would you see that? The rest of the
world didn't see that. That's part and parcel to the job.
So but there is this, and I'm a big believer
in it. I think sometimes small school guys and they
turn into great players. We've seen it all the time.
But as far as handling and not being overwhelmed early

(01:45:40):
big school guys have seen it. Matter of fact, the
stadiums you play in college at Ohio State at Alabama
are more filled than an NFL stadium every week.

Speaker 11 (01:45:48):
See.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
I disagree though about the if you're worried about your job,
you take the big school guy. I think that it
goes the opposite direction because I think that it's so
much how look how much I know.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
See if that guy has your chance to miss.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Though, it is a better chance to miss for the
reason I'm going to get to in just a second.
But those are the teams and those are the gms
that overthink it, because then they want to go to
the g They want to go to the owner. When
the guy does panouts, or if he does panouts, say hey,
I found I found him.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
I found him. You wouldn't have had him without me.

Speaker 5 (01:46:19):
Yeah, well, that's fine, that's fine, go and that's fine
after the effect, after the fact, there's no question you'd
go and say, man, i'd love a contract extension. I
found three guys from North Dakota State, Montana State in Idahoe. Sure,
but I'm firing you, quicker. I'm just telling you. If
I'm a front officer, sure, and there's no way in
hell there's more pressure on a general manager when he

(01:46:39):
drafts the Alabama guy than when he drafts miss the
Montana State guy. There there is no way, because you're
telling me. Now, if the guy hits, the guy hits
Montana State, of course you're gonna go and say, look
what I did. But I got news for you. If
he misses, I may give you a contracts issue if
he hits. But if you miss on Alabama or on
uh Ohio State or on Southern cal You're gonna get

(01:47:02):
a longer hall pass. That's a friggin facts. That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
You can you.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
I mean, if I'm the owner, say man, I'd drafted
Will Anderson too. Most owners don't know who the guy
from Montana State is much bigger risk and much bigger chance.
Take the rewards, bigger expectations of Will Anderson and he's
going to succeed. Lower expectations from the guy from Montana State.
If he succeeds, you're like, I got myself a gym.

(01:47:28):
That's a feather in my cap. Keep going to Montana
State for every pick I got news for you. You're
eventually gonna fail, because at some point you're gonna get
the guy who's overwhelmed and doesn't belong. Rarely are you
going to get the now some guys are gonna fail
Big Texas A and M.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
So far sure with with with Green?

Speaker 5 (01:47:44):
Right, and now he's gone so with Kenyan Green, So
that one he has to sit back and say, now,
if Kenyan Green he drafted him from let's say he
drafted him from Stephen F. Austin, where is Nick Casse?
Are getting more flack. I'm asking you, where's he getting
more flack? No, it's easy and especially too. That's the

(01:48:05):
second part of this is in the transfer portal era.
If these guys are really that great, why are they
still at those schools?

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
Why are you there?

Speaker 4 (01:48:13):
Because we know that the temptation if everybody out there
knows how good of a player you are. You don't
think that Texas Tech or somebody's going to come along
and say, hey, you don't belong in acadoci Just what
are you doing there?

Speaker 13 (01:48:23):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
No, I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
So on the back end, yes, you get to go
slap your resume on the just say look, I got
the guy from Montana State, but I got news for you.
You don't think that if you're a guy that if
you're a general manager and you drafted a guy from
Steven F. Austin and you liked him, and somebody else
would have drafted him a second round Stephen F.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Austin, good program.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
That's not why I'm saying, but the risk when he
walks into training camp with the fellas, you don't think
as a GM you're sitting there saying you're more of
a hope.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
Not I know those are ego picks in my mind
because it is again it's a oh you found him,
Oh man, good find by you. I mean, you know,
when everybody's drinking beer at Vets right there in Mobile
at the senior bable, you know, hey, great job on
that last year. But no, it's also the other thing
is it's overthinking it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
In my mind. It is true.

Speaker 5 (01:49:07):
And the problem is if you fall in love with
the guy and I take it to my scouting department
and my head coach and they're not all in. They
think he's a seven and you think he's a ten,
you better step back and look at the evaluation. Now, GMS,
get the egos. This is my pick, and I'm doing
it it. Damn will better be good if it's one
of the small school guys. And I'm not saying there's
not good football players. There's a ton of them. But

(01:49:28):
I'm a lot safer and I get a lot more
leeway from from fans, media and ownership. Who here would
have bitched about taking will Anderson? Nobody and if he failed,
who is it?

Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
On?

Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
More on Nick Cassario on what happened to that guy?
He was a hack, That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
It's more of the player and the other part of
it as well, with the big schools, I'm casting a
wider net. There's a reason why these guys are so good.
There's a reason why these teams are so good. I
got a better chance man at yep and then hey,
this guy had a really good week and mobile the
senior boy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
I'm rarely worried about CJ.

Speaker 5 (01:49:59):
Stret or Will Anderson walking out in front of seventy
five thousand people because, make no mistake, that can overwhelm
you in a hurry and you start to hyperventilate, chok
on your own spit. There ain't nothing that the Texans
are going to show up as a crowd that match
what they saw every single weekend in the Horseshoe. There's
just I'm talking about fan The crowds are always bigger,
So that part of it. Now, there is a chance

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that if you played in front of twelve thousand people
and the first time you're on national television, so it's
it's seventy five thousand and you've got a block, and
you're getting and you got a block nine miles garrett
I would say that there's probably a little bit of
discrepancy in the talent or you wouldn't have missed him
in the first place.

Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
I mean, it's one of those just simplify the process
as much as possible, And for the life of me,
I just can't understand why some of these executives decide
to make it harder than it needs to be.

Speaker 5 (01:50:47):
They talk themselves out of a player, meaning a big
time player between January and April, more than they talk
themselves into one.

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And I got the answer on that. On the other side,
don't get too cute. We'll continue it because I got
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Speaker 13 (01:53:57):
Good morning, gentlemen. I wanted to make could comment about
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But what I seen was after him throwing those pitches
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Of the field, which I thought was awesome.

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I mean, you know I saw that note too about
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That they can for this team, and to go out
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get it. And it's a tough roadback, but once you
get back, sustaining it's always a hard thing to do.
And I hope he does. It'll help this team and
help him out, well, I mean that's the thing. I mean,
you just want to be able to if you're him,
make sure that number one, you still got it, but
number two that you can stay healthy, that you can
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Speaker 12 (01:59:01):
Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:59:03):
Just curious where you guys see the Texans going in
terms of dressing the wide receiver room. I see a
lot of a lot of mock drafts saying that we'll
take a Mecca Buca in the first round.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
I think I would like that pick.

Speaker 10 (01:59:19):
With you know, in twenty twenty two, that was CJ's
favorite target at Ohio State. Just curious how you guys
see the Texans addressing the wide receiver room.

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I think if anything, Shawn,
it's going to be a day too. I think that.
I mean a guy that I threw out there is
on my wish list is you need tight end help.
That was a position that let you down last year.
You didn't have Brevin Jordan, Dalton Schultz. He's fine, but
you're not going to win because of Dalton Schultz.

Speaker 5 (01:59:48):
Can't block anybody. He's got a health pass catch, he
can't block. You got to get more physical at that position.

Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
And that's the thing. I mean, you can win with him,
you can't win because of him. And I'm not saying
that you need a game changer at that spot, but
you at least need somebody that can be able to
provide a little bit of both. And I think Mason
Taylor got of LSU, is somebody that can do that.
And again, if it's the criteria we talked about with Nick.

Speaker 5 (02:00:08):
Seio, yeah, I personally, where I disagree is I think
you do need a game changer at tight end. I
think it's the most difficult position to defend if you
guys a VERSAAL player there. I think game planning everybody,
game wideouts that if you're game planning against the team
that's got Nico'collins and another good white out of Christian
Kirker at another one and you got a tight end,

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that's a difference maker. I'm going to tell you what, man,
you gets a mismatch, miserable mismatch. Look at the teams
over the years who've had one. It's a miserable mismatch
for defenses. If you've got Rock Bowers on your team,
it just is so. I don't think there's very few
out there that are change games, but when they do.

(02:00:49):
The Kansas City Chiefs and their first few Super Bowl wins,
if Kelsey's not on the field, they may not be
winning their first I mean, that's how important it is.
I'm not I'm talking about the loss last year. You
can start to see. Look at the way his productions
fell off at least the last couple of years as
far as regular season and look at their offense production.
Their defense has carried them for two straight years. Not
named Mahomes when it's mattering in Kelsey. Look what happened

(02:01:11):
in the game as they rolled through the playoffs early
on when he had the big one hundred and some
yard against Texans Big game was a huge difference in
the game. So I do think that position. I don't
think we're the point in football you have to that
you got to tie it in. That's just He's okay.
I think that there's another level to it, and I
also believe I'm not second day guy. I think the

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two things that they still need to do that if
you're going to trade up, you're either trading up for
a receiver in this draft, or you're trading up to
get an interior offensive lineman. And depending on how far
you can get up with all the assets they still
have and that you've got from the Tunsil trade, I
think you'd like to get up and get one of
the two, an offensive lineman or a receiver. I am
I'm in on a first day receiver if in fact

(02:01:55):
the offensive lineman you want. I don't need an edge rusher.
Although those guys are like line I mean, if there's
a good one, you go get it. That's not their priority.
I don't even think there's a guy on defense in
this draft that there's a priority for them, unless you
wanted an interior defensive guy who can also rush the passer.

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
But I am for me, tight ends big one.

Speaker 5 (02:02:15):
I still think that a wide receiver if like the
Danny Green philosophy, they didn't need one when they drafted
Randy Moss. I'm not saying Randy mosson in this draft.
They had Jake Reid, they had Chris Carter, they were loaded,
and you know what they did. It fell fell fell,
You went and got him. The rest is history.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
For me.

Speaker 5 (02:02:32):
If you can get a wide receiver where they are
in the twenties, or move up to get a guy
that you said, this guy's a game breaker, I'm greedy
as hel go get him. And if that tight end
is there when you move up, go get him too,
or instead or the lineman. You got to decide at
that point, need or best player available. I don't think
this team right now. Christian Kirk's a good player, really

(02:02:53):
good player. I don't think they have enough there yet.
I don't with the injuries and digs depending on the
dig situation, I don't. So I'm not out of the
woods on the Lebuka, who I think is a hell
of a player if he's available, If the wide receiver's
got a chance to be more dominant than the lineman
because they're not done. Offensive line wise, they are not done.
I don't know where it is or what they're going
to do. They're not done. I wouldn't be done receiver

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wise either. If that guy's sitting there and you got
the fourth best lineman or the sixth best lineman in
the draft, or the third best receiver, give me the receiver.
I if I got a chance and there's a dominant
one there, I'm getting one on the first day.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
A few things there.

Speaker 4 (02:03:28):
So Abuka I think was very much in play for
the Texans when you still had Laramie Tunsel. Because the
next part is what it's going to tell you on
Night one of the draft, is do you trust Titus
Howard to be your left tackle for this team? Because
you go out and maybe you have to trade up
or he's right there for you. At twenty five you
go get Kelvin Banks Junior. I think that guy's your
left tackle. I think that guy is.

Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
Yeah, if there's a guy dominant, you can punch in
and play as a rookie right right, But who would
you rather have right now? Who do you trust more
the fourth tackle in the draft or Howard there? Or
who do you trust more the third best receiver in
the draft, or the fourth or fifth best tackle in

(02:04:11):
the draft.

Speaker 4 (02:04:11):
I just think that receiver you feel like you can
get value later. And it's not only the value receivers
and skill position players. Those are toys when you're building
your team. I disagree, man. I talked to Pro Football
Focused three years ago. The head came on here and
I said, what's the second most important position now in football?

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
You know what he said? Receiver?

Speaker 5 (02:04:30):
Yeah, outside of quarterback, he said. With the way offenses
are spread out, he said, you got to have more
than you got to have. Those guys ask Cincinnati and
now they just don't have a defense to go with it.
But for me, I'm listen, I build it inside out.
If they can get a stud offensive line, and that's
where I go first. But I think we over use
value too much. Well, I can get a guy in

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the third round for this price. If I got a guy,
and remember it's like or love in the first round.
If you like a guy, go get somebody else. If
you love a guy, you draft. If I like the
linman and love the receiver, get the receiver. If I
love the lineman and like the receiver, get the lineman.
But for me, I disagree that those guys are toys.

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
Those guys are toys, but they are shiny ones.

Speaker 5 (02:05:14):
And you have to have If you lined up and
didn't have Christian Kirk and it was Nico Collins in
hope that Mechi and hope that Hutchinson become players.

Speaker 2 (02:05:22):
This team won't get to February. But that's just that's Sean.

Speaker 4 (02:05:25):
I mean, the hope is more on the offensive line,
where you saw what it was last year, and now
you're worse than you were last year because you don't
have Laramie Tansen.

Speaker 2 (02:05:34):
Are you? Yes? You are all?

Speaker 4 (02:05:37):
You are absolutely When when you're trying to protect your quarterback,
which is what they were trying to do all season
and all throughout the season last year, that's when you
have that many holes in that spot and you've got
a free chance to be able to try to fix
that as best as possible and then build on it
from there. But are you before you have to extend
the quarterback, well, the receivers on the back burner?

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
Did I not say?

Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
If you're putting receivers on the back burner, you're gonna
do what they do every year, You're gonna be losing
in January. If they're back burner for you. Now, if
you get a second round and that turns out, well fine,
I'm just telling you right now, Jefferson and Chase, you
get a guy like that, if you got a they
ain't backburn Look what it's done for Minnesota, Look what
it's done for Cincinnati. So I don't look at receivers
as back burner guys. And to talk to a quarterback,

(02:06:22):
just like when we devalue a running back. If Joe
Mixon's not here, this team's in a world of hurt
at off on offense. But if you listen to me,
I said the number one priority is I've been saying
since the season ended, and hell, most of the season.
If you're not physical, you can't win. You have to
get a lineman. But if you're telling me I can
get the second best receiver or the ninth best lineman

(02:06:44):
in this draft, you go ahead and pick that lineman.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
I'll take the receiver, maybe not the back burner, but
at least it's in the back seat right now, because
I've got Nico Collins, and I understand that the supporting
cast around them, especially when you lost Diggs, you lost Dell,
you took a significant drop off from that department and
it was pretty much all on Nico Collins at that point,
and he did as much as he could, and he
did it incredibly well. But it's also is my quarterback

(02:07:09):
going to be able to stay healthy? Is my quarterback
going to have an excess amount of hits on him?
Because I'm looking at one through five left to right
on that offensive line and I've got a couple of
guys in there, and it's, hey, coach, what do we
have there?

Speaker 2 (02:07:21):
The answer is, I hope if you got the best line.

Speaker 5 (02:07:25):
If you put it this way, if the lineman in
your book you love him and you like the receiver,
and you say I could take the receiver in this
first round, but you love the lineman, it's a no brainer.

Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
No.

Speaker 5 (02:07:35):
If the quarterback's not upright, it won't matter who who
the receivers are. But the opposite is true. If he's
upright and I can't get somebody to separate, I can
take Nico Collins away. You got one receiver I I
can prevent him from dominating every game, and so I'll
take him. But I can tell you this, if the
good lineman are gone and you're reaching for alignment in
the first round. This is not a great tackle class.

(02:07:57):
It's just not if you're reaching for alignment. But you
got the closer to a guarantee, which doesn't exist in sports.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Close to guarantee.

Speaker 5 (02:08:05):
I'll take the receiver and get value with the second
round lineman if that's the case.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
But my gut tells me.

Speaker 5 (02:08:12):
With all these assets, I don't think they're staying where
they are right now.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (02:08:16):
Now you will tell if you can move up and
get the Penn State tight end. He comes into play
with the other two positions we're talking about, because to me,
the value of that tight end and the mismatch and
knowing how defensive coordinators look at that guy in that
position of what he creates, the problems he creates for

(02:08:37):
a defense, I don't have a problem there either. There's
no doubt. Well, once again, if you're not physical, I
don't care if you get Joe sixpack and Harry Hatchet asks.
If they can't protect the quarterback, you've got no shot
and the receiver will go by the wayside.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
But if it's a guy.

Speaker 5 (02:08:51):
That you say, well, I like him, but I'm not
sure how he fits in, you can't take him there
in the first round. You go and get the second
or third round guy. It's a grinder and it's a mutter,
and you put him in the lineup and he just
stays for ten years. So you got a wigh. The
lik and the love. It's an easy thing for me.
If I love a guy, and you know when you
love him or when you like him. It always starts

(02:09:12):
with building an insight out with the line. But if
you think that the receiver gives you far more production
as a rookie early on than the lineman, I ain't
thinking four years from now, you can, I'm not. I'm
thinking twenty twenty six and twenty twenty five. I'm not
thinking twenty twenty nine. So for me, it's who gives
me the best chance to impact my team now. It's

(02:09:33):
gonna be an offensive player. I would imagine if it's
the lineman, grab his ass, because you know how I
feel about that. You can't win without him. But I
know this to approach it as the receiver's just the
shiny object that hey, it's great to have, but it
won't matter. I don't look at it like that. If
that was the case, you wouldn't be spending two hundred
million dollars on wide receivers in Cincinnati. I just know

(02:09:54):
what the reality is right now and where you've painted
yourself with the guys that are off the board, with
free agency, trade possibilities, all of that. You have to
be able to address it now in the draft. Tackle
you want at twenty five. I'm just telling you you're
not well. As we mentioned, he's going to move up.
I wouldn't think so if I had to go ahead
right now. You know, tend to the Matt Thomas Show.

(02:10:15):
They do gut feelings on Tuesdays. So I'll go ahead
and in that vein do a gut feeling here. The
Texans are drafting in the teens. They will move up
into sixteen seventeen higher than that, and they want the
guy on offensive line that they're gonna get. They better
because if somebody drops that far to twenty five, then
I would suggest you let him drop the twenty six

(02:10:35):
because there's a reason a guy's falling that far. If
you want the guy you want at that position or guard.
I'm talking about an offensive lineman, I don't think you're
getting him in this draft that late.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
We shall see.

Speaker 4 (02:10:50):
Still got a month ago, and you mentioned something about
the draft process and you know just what this time is.
We can also chop that up here before we close
up shop here on a Wednesday, John Brandon, see you
guys right there. You'll want to join them seven one
three two one two five seven ninety once again, that's
seven one three two one two five seven nine zero.
Will continue to Sean Salisbury show next.

Speaker 8 (02:11:12):
There's a lot happening and he's got a lot to
say about it. Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety one.

Speaker 4 (02:11:20):
And also to the horns on the floor. Tonight their
chance to get into the field of sixty four. They're
gonna take on Xavier and we'll have that over on
KPRC nine fifty starting at seven thirty. All morning, Sean.
I've been wrong. I've been wrong the entire time. And
I was reminded about what nicely I had said that
Texas would take on ole Miss. I was wrong about

(02:11:42):
that because North Carolina is going to take on ole Miss.
They won last night. But Texas would get Illinois in
the round of sixty four if they fight.

Speaker 5 (02:11:51):
Well, would you say during the update being yeah, teaser update,
not updates, But what do we call that headlines. Headlines. Yeah, yeah,
well that's okay. And the fact you come on here
and fix it, that's all right.

Speaker 4 (02:12:01):
There you go, so yeah, you know what, Look, we
all make an error. I mean, jose L Twove had
one go in and out of the glove yesterday, and
you sold your on. You keep moving, So that's what
we're hoping to do.

Speaker 5 (02:12:11):
That's why we got That's why I always say on
this show, we got such great listeners, because they'll check
you when necessary and a big deal.

Speaker 4 (02:12:18):
And I'm about being checked and we'll get to some
of you all on the phone lines here in a second.
But what I'm not about is answering why they play
the first four in date in Dayton. We got that
question yesterday and then the question, you know, the follow up.
Usually whenever you just say I don't know, I always
love the well, you're a sports guy, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
Supposed to know this? Yeah, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
On the list of a thousand things that probably not
only professionally but also personally, you got to wonder about
where they play the first four games of the NCAA
tournament is not going to be anywhere close to the top.

Speaker 5 (02:12:50):
I would think so so yeah, I would think not
meaning yeah, I don't. Right now, I can't tell you
other than where the Cougar's play. I know who's in
what region, but I don't know where the where they're playing,
right Is there a low building?

Speaker 2 (02:13:04):
Yeah, I don't. If lower ten foot basket ninety four feet,
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (02:13:08):
And five players on both sides of the floor referees.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
Now, if it's Allen field House in a regular season game,
and I know sameranor the Dome somewhere.

Speaker 5 (02:13:16):
Like that, sure, the pit in New Mexico, I but
poly pavilion. But right now, I don't know what building
they're playing in, meaning these regions. I know the region,
so but once you get there and see it, that's great.
I don't want them plan on Oregon's court because it's
such a distraction.

Speaker 2 (02:13:30):
Or that Big twelve Tournament four last week.

Speaker 5 (02:13:33):
Yeah, little much, but I I uh, I am focused
on the teams, but I can't wait till it starts
the gambling. Let the gambling begin.

Speaker 4 (02:13:43):
I think that court that they had up there in
Kansas City for the Big twelve tournament, that's what triggered
my migraine on Saturday. That was pretty much what the
catalyst was for that. All right, John on the northwest
side wants to wait in here. Sports Talk seven ninety John, what's.

Speaker 11 (02:13:58):
Up, Hey, Good morning, Shane and Dan. Listen here. Man.
You know I've been watching the Astros man since the
early seventies because they're my team and our two Bay
is my favorite player. But I'm not gonna sugar coat
it a two Bay yesterday that I know this is
his person. He looked like a guy that's playing the

(02:14:18):
corn our field for the first time. That outfield eight
he is lunch. It wasn't just one era. He had
problems even trying to track the ball. Now, you know,
I've even work as magic. You know everybody think that, Well,
maybe you know you're gonna work his magic chapter a
while and he's gonna get better over there in that
corn our field way. He better hurry up and do it,
because that looks real bad. And in fact, I know the

(02:14:40):
game didn't wasn't wasn't didn't count yesterday, But he cost
him that game yesterday to on them rors. But that's okay,
But man, he looked bad out there. I don't care
what nobody say. People can call in and sugar coated
all they want to. And I love as Two Bay
to death, Like I say, but he looked bad out there. Man,
I listen to what y'all have to say about it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
Have a good day, John before you go. Yeah, look,
he didn't play it. He didn't.

Speaker 5 (02:15:04):
You know, I don't think any of us are gonna
mistake him for a gold glove left fielder with a
powerful arm just yet.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
But you're not worried.

Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
I mean, are you because of yesterday? Are you worried
that he's not gonna play good left field? Or were
you concerned before the area yesterday?

Speaker 11 (02:15:19):
I'm worried that he's not gonna play good left field
because one thing I did see yesterday he's bad on
even tracking the ball. Now, see, this is my thing here.
I'm not trying to tell them how to do their business.
And I understand bo Bizjo. They moved him away from
backcatcher to save his rage. But at Two Bay he
had almost three hundred last season. But I'm kind of

(02:15:40):
like this, if you so worried, if you're so worried
about his bad navage going down, we're getting a few
more days off in regular season that type of thing. Otherwise,
I hope he do good over there in that corner,
I feel. But if he do bad like what I
saw yesterday, people are gonna be doing a whole lot
of laugh and I just don't get any man. But
I'm wishing good luck with that. But his tracking that's bad.

(02:16:03):
His tracking is bad on tracking that bout and you
saw him being down. He was beat up yesterday on that.

Speaker 4 (02:16:11):
John, appreciate the call. You just answered your question there.
Towards the end, he's playing left field because of his bat.
And probably what even that leads more into it is
if he was still a good enough defensive second baseman,
he would still be remaining at second base. He's not
playing out in the outfield, sean, because his glove is

(02:16:32):
sorely needed out there. He's playing out there because Dana
Brown and Joe Aspota, when they looked at this lineup,
said we could possibly have an outfield of a platoon
situation and left Jake Myerson center and Chas McCormick, and right.
If I'm Joe Aspota, I look at Dana Brown and
I say, that's losing me ballgames. Offensively, that's going to
lose me ball games. I can't have an outfield that

(02:16:53):
has that, and I mean it's not like he's got
two left feet out there. Is he necessarily the most
polished out there. No, he's a middle endfielder by trade.
That's what he is. He's never played the outfield. It's
going to take an adjustment, But overall, I would say
that I've been pleasantly surprised by how he's taken to
the position. Now, we talked about this a little bit
earlier on in the show. It's not like he's going

(02:17:16):
to play a perfect gold glove left field this season.
I think if you get adequate out of him out there,
then it's mission accomplished, because again, he's in the lineup.
He's there because of what he does in the leadoff
spot in the batting order.

Speaker 5 (02:17:29):
Let me guess, do you actually think that you're not
gonna be holding your breath though with the outfield when
the ball is hitting certain spots this year?

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
No more than I normally would. I know, I'm all
for you.

Speaker 5 (02:17:44):
I think we make too big a deal to the
AL two be to left AL two A is not
going to make forty four errors this year. Well, I'm
more concerned not with the glove. I'm more concerned about
three outfielders arms. If Cam Smith's not playing, I'm more
concerned about how are they gonna do this? They better
be off the accurate because and have great anticipation to
get to balls in the gap, and that you're early on.

(02:18:07):
I think we're gonna hold our breath when Line drives
a hit to him to see how he's gonna But
he's a pro, he's a he's You wouldn't put him
out there if you thought it was going to be
a disaster. But I do understand John and others concerns
because it's not a natural position for him. It's just
not Jake Myers obviously is gonna have to cover a
lot of ground if he's a starting center fielder. But

(02:18:27):
make we can sugarcoat this all we want. This will
be the worst outfield arms in baseball with that starting
it is the It will be the three worst outfield arms.
I'm talking about the common not the three. Each one's
the worst. The combination of the three, you'll be hard
pressed to find less arm in the outfield.

Speaker 2 (02:18:46):
You had that even before you made the move to
put Jose al to Va.

Speaker 5 (02:18:49):
Well, when Kyle Tucker was here, you didn't. Well, that
was that's a five tool player. That was you know,
he's gonna get assists, he's gonna make it, and he's
an accurate, mechanically sound arm. You're you're, you're, you're taking
a major step back with the outfield arms, with the
changes in the outfield. But you anticipated and get it right.

Speaker 2 (02:19:07):
We'll go to see.

Speaker 5 (02:19:07):
I'm not one of those that thinks that the season
is going to go to hell in a handbasket because
al two base playing left field. I think he'll survive
it and be fine, serviceable. There's a reason.

Speaker 4 (02:19:16):
Why players are placed out in the left field is
because defensive value across the board. There's just not as
much on that position as say there is third base, shortstop,
center field, catcher, any of those positions that, yeah, you
definitely do factor in what do they bring you defensively.
I mean, look at the guys that do play in
left field. Your beloved Boston Red Sox for all those years,

(02:19:38):
where did Manny Ramirez playing well?

Speaker 5 (02:19:40):
You had the only reason Manny Ramirez was in a
lineup because you had Poppy who added DH and Manny's
bat had to be in the lineup. Manny was a
major liability in left field. And I mean a pop fly.
You were wondering if Manny's was going to go back
and try to jump up on the monster When the
ball landed just outside the shortstop and third basement, no doubt,
but five hundred home, you had to keep it in

(02:20:00):
the light. Now, had David Ortiz not been a Boston
Red Sox, Manny Ramirez never would have seen left field.
He'd have been dhing because he was born to hit.
He could hit, you know, three hundred and driving one
hundred runs with a broomstick. But you had to hide
him out there. You aren't putting him the right You're
sure some won't putting him in the center, but you
had to have the bat.

Speaker 2 (02:20:18):
Now. Do I think al.

Speaker 5 (02:20:19):
Tuve is going to be a better left fielder than
many Ramirez? I absolutely do, But I also don't think
he's going to be you know, put it this way.
If he makes the All Star Team, it'll be because
he's swinging the bat.

Speaker 7 (02:20:30):
Well.

Speaker 5 (02:20:30):
I think he's I don't think he's a liability. I
don't think he's a man. This is a plus. He's
he's going to be a I think he'll be serviceable
because he's athletic and can play. He's a hell of
a baseball player. But if you're looking, is it going
to look natural? Absolutely not? And I mean that's the
thing too. You mentioned the All Star Game notoriety, just
in terms of the awards, it's what you do with

(02:20:51):
the bat, it's not. I mean, there is an award
for the glove, sure, but the most of that comes
with what you do at the plate. And that's what
you want to be able to have with Jose l Tuve.
And obviously you've got Jordan Alvarez and you don't want
to play him out in left field quite a ton,
so well, he's and he'd be a better left fielder
than al Tuove. He's proven, see and that's that's an
accurate decent arm as a left fielder, pretty good.

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
And but the fact is you're trying to preserve his
lower half.

Speaker 4 (02:21:16):
That's how many times too have you seen a ball
hit to the outfield to jord On and you're kind
of like, there's no way he's going to catch that
ball because it looks like he's kind of gliding to it.
That's just how you know how many steps he's able
to check out? Absolutely and you're just like, wow, didn't
expect that. So all right, so we can continue the
Astros conversation. Also to see Andy you want to get
in on the Texans. We'll do that, and also to

(02:21:38):
some NFL notes to be able to run through before
we close up the doors here on the Sean Salisbury
Show on a Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (02:21:45):
We'll do that right here.

Speaker 4 (02:21:47):
Dan Matthews, Sean Tripole, E, Emmanuel Elmore, Sports Talk seven
ninety I had to.

Speaker 8 (02:21:51):
Live out there, The Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (02:21:57):
We've got a lot of Astro's conversation, a lot of
Texans conversations. Still do want to do a little quick
look around the NFL. We'll do that here shortly. But
Brandon wants to wag in here. Morning Brandon, what's up, Buddy?

Speaker 1 (02:22:11):
Good morning, Dank, Good morning Sean.

Speaker 2 (02:22:13):
How are you doing great man? How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:22:16):
I'm doing gay? I'm going to the.

Speaker 11 (02:22:20):
Audio row join tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:22:22):
Who's playing tomorrow? Okay, Yeah, that'll be cool. He's he's
a good one.

Speaker 2 (02:22:28):
I know, I know. I had a few friends out
there last night.

Speaker 4 (02:22:32):
Josh Reddick was out there watching Post Malone, playing a
little bit of both the country and the pop stuff
that made him popular.

Speaker 5 (02:22:38):
Yeah, very popular guy. And he's killing it right now.
Who's he saying? Cody Jinks Tonight's Cody Jinks tomorrow is
what he said?

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
Yes tomorrow, yep, Astros is it on seven?

Speaker 2 (02:22:54):
Yeah, it'll be on seven forty later, buddy, seven o'clock.

Speaker 1 (02:22:58):
Okay, I'm trying to decide out who I'm gonna watch first,
Audio or Rockets?

Speaker 2 (02:23:05):
Oh you got yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:23:07):
Yeah, I mean since you're gonna go to the rodeo
tomorrow night, man, you're gonna get that. So you gotta
watch the Rockets go for eighth straight or even even better, Brandon,
you listen to him right here, Matt Thomas and the crew.

Speaker 1 (02:23:19):
I could, or I can just listen to on our
way to the udio.

Speaker 4 (02:23:23):
There, bingo, bingo, there's the answer. Two birds, one stone.
You're the man, buddy, yep, all right, do you want buddy?

Speaker 1 (02:23:36):
That's it?

Speaker 4 (02:23:36):
All right, buddy, We'll we'll talk to you again soon.
All right, all right, all right, see you, buddy. Oh
I'm sorry, Brandon, uh A little quick, a little quick
on the uh, but no, Cody Jinks tomorrow night. Closing
it up this week, Luke Bryan on Sunday is what
sends us into the end. Of the Rodeo here in

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twenty twenty five, and then try to get out there
next year. I definitely am going to try to get
out there for one of the shows next year. It's
been a while since I've seen somebody on the rotating stage.

Speaker 5 (02:24:07):
Sure is, and you know what I'm I'll be honest
with you. Concerts at the Rodeo are a little difficult.
You don't get the full effect. They're good, don't miss
er Sami. But and if you're in a suite I
was invited to, I don't mean it like, oh I
was in a sweet That's not where you want to
watch a concert with you of mine who had had
a suite, so I went, I would much rather be

(02:24:28):
among the people.

Speaker 2 (02:24:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:24:30):
Well, honestly, in a suite, the distraction of all the voice,
you can't you can't hear it well enough, Does that
make sense. I prefer I'd rather be down there in
the mix and hear it that way. But I mean,
obviously it's good and you get a you get great
ones who just set the world on fire. Anyway, but
I made more of that concert. I'm there for the
concert the Rodeo. There's so much going on. I like it,

(02:24:52):
but it wouldn't be my number one. And I'd rather
be down there in the mix than I would sit
in a suite, just because you know, people talking and
the acoustics and stuff. I'd prefer that. But there's such
good acts. Some of them just can overcome no matter what.

Speaker 4 (02:25:05):
First one I ever went to nineteen ninety three astronom,
my parents took me to go see Garth.

Speaker 2 (02:25:10):
Well there's one now that that one.

Speaker 5 (02:25:12):
Yeah, even if you got ten minutes of it, it's
a pretty good get.

Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
He's a showman.

Speaker 4 (02:25:16):
He's I would say, the Bruce Springsteen of country music,
and I mean the guy that made country music mainstream too.

Speaker 2 (02:25:24):
So yeah, you don't get.

Speaker 5 (02:25:25):
Cheated out of a good performance when it comes to entertainment.

Speaker 2 (02:25:31):
When it comes to Garth Brooks, he's.

Speaker 4 (02:25:33):
Still running around the stage doing all that kind of stuff.
So Garth's still bringing it. Let's bring in Andy, who
wants to talk a little? Texts Andy, what's going on?

Speaker 12 (02:25:42):
Yeah, before the Texans look out. Two Bays will be
below average when he starts, and I believe at the
end of the year he'll be a little of bolve average.
So give him a break, give him some time, get
a speed underneath them out there, and I think it'll
me five plus with his bat. You can deal with
his glove just the way it works. Yeah, and you

(02:26:03):
guys talking Jift earlier with the Texans. Look, Nick is
fixing his screw up by giving the extension to uh
tons on back in the day.

Speaker 2 (02:26:15):
They'll never shine.

Speaker 3 (02:26:16):
You knew.

Speaker 12 (02:26:16):
I was against it, not because not as much as
as has played, but just his attitude. If you don't
want to be one of the highest page, you've got
to be a leader. I'm sorry, that's that's what comes
with us.

Speaker 2 (02:26:28):
And he's not.

Speaker 12 (02:26:29):
He's all about him and he's always been about him.
But but but he's fixing his screw up. And look, Mason,
I don't know what happened to Mason. A lot of it,
you know, Mason just didn't get that bad over in
a year. It has to go with the offensive coordinator.
It has to go with the offensive line coach and

(02:26:49):
the player. So that's one reason I think the lines
gonna be better because all two or two out of
those three and a lot of the players are getting
changed out. That's why I think the old lines will
be better. But as far as the draft, look, we
got two thirds this year, We've got two two's next year,
we got two threes, and we got two sixes next year.
So he's positioned himself perfect to be it. Okay, so

(02:27:12):
we've got five picks. Oh, we got four picks in
the first three rounds. We've got one one, one in
the second, two and a third look for the look
for him to move up in the first, move up
in the second, and still have a.

Speaker 5 (02:27:26):
Third with a Yeah, Andy, I think the biggest mistake
of this draft with all these that you don't get
these all these assets to stare at him and say, man,
it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (02:27:35):
I'll wait.

Speaker 5 (02:27:36):
I think the biggest mistake in this draft would be
not moving up with those assets.

Speaker 2 (02:27:41):
That would be me so and I.

Speaker 12 (02:27:44):
Think I think, look, Howard's contract that gone next year.
So my my guess is if Howard doesn't ball out
this year, he's gonna be Tounzel next year. They're gonna
ship his butts somewhere. So I'm thinking that's gonna happen. Yes, Yeah,
I think they'll move up the first and they'll get
a tackle offensive tackle, and then look the tight ends

(02:28:08):
and the wide receivers. I think is pretty deep draft.
For both of those. And let's don't forget Nicocullins. What
round did he go in the third? He went in
the third. You can find a solid, solid wide receiver
and tight end in the third round.

Speaker 5 (02:28:27):
Yeah, you're gonna find a better if you stay where
you are and didn't trade up. And my point is,
if you stay where you are, you're going to get
a better receiver at twenty five than you are. That's
twenty five, right, Yeah, that's where they are. You're going
to get a better receiver at twenty five than you
are alignment at twenty five, especially a tackle in this draft.
But with those picks like our our approaching Dan's as well,
take those picks package and move up. Now now we're

(02:28:50):
in offensive line. Now you can get a guy if
you're in the mid to upper teens type thing, and
you can get a good third round lineman and a
good third round receiver. But my point is, if don't
trade up, you may be reaching a little more Because
I'm with you, there's some good tight ends and there's
some good wide receivers. It's deeper than the tackle position
in this draft. So I just think I think it's

(02:29:10):
a no brainer that you're moving up, and if you're
moving up, more than likely you're moving up to get
a physical stud on the offensive line, I would think.

Speaker 4 (02:29:17):
And it's also I mean, teams will try to tell
you they take best player available and not necessarily drafting
for need. All right, that's fine, whatever you have to
tell yourself to get through it, but you're not necessarily
going that route, especially when you look at the inventory
of your roster and you see, all right, hey, I
could use some help with Nico Collins, but I definitely
know that I need help on that offensive line. And

(02:29:40):
when I haven't necessarily fully taken care of it with
veteran players, well then you've kind of pained yourself in
the corner.

Speaker 5 (02:29:46):
At that point, the message would be a lot louder
to be moving up for an offensive lineman, I mean,
for a wide receiver, if you would have let Digs
go and not gone out and got Christian Kirk Bingo.
But the fact that you did says, okay, it would
be a luxury to get a first round receiver if
we stay where we are. To me, if you're trading
up twelve picks, it's not for a receiver, it's for

(02:30:07):
an offensive lineman. If you're sitting where you are now
you're gonna be now, you're saddled with the thought of,
you know what, the receiver at that position may be
far better than the or impactful than the linement at
that position. To me, the biggest noe, the easiest thing
to get to guarantee in this draft is that the
Texans are moving up from twenty five with those assets

(02:30:28):
part and parcel. Why they traded Laramie tunsel for a
pretty good haul. Yeah, that's where we'll continue the conversation.
On the other side.

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Speaker 4 (02:31:51):
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way in here on the Salisbury Show Kenneth, what's going on?

Speaker 14 (02:32:06):
Prol I wanted to touch on Tomsling and Green. I
went in on him kind of this year, but you know,
I had a positive on it because Tomsl Man, I
have the utmost admiration for him because when he and
this guy speak about it, this dude is a classic guy.
And what he said and he touched on everything that

(02:32:26):
I would expect somebody to upright person to do man,
and I give him a lot of credit for.

Speaker 12 (02:32:32):
Speaking up and owning some things.

Speaker 14 (02:32:36):
And as for Green, you know, he might not be
totally out of it, but sometimes man, it ain't a
physical thing a person can be. You know, they can
ruin their career mentally and it don't take too much.
Sometimes they hurt a man feeling man or something like that.
We don't know what went on that locker room and

(02:32:56):
what people probably said to him or what he went
through or something like that. And the thing with you is,
I think he tried. And I have to say that
that much about him because I gotta I go to
the pilotive on it and quickly sean on a call
him policy. When he left San Francisco, they did they

(02:33:17):
throw a draft choice here did you remember anything about
getting a draft choice for.

Speaker 5 (02:33:21):
Him that's happened over the course of time from coaches
and players a draft pick. They may very well have
traded a draft pick for in cash or something for
Carmen Policy when he was a GM he's talking about
was a gym when the Bartelow and that group was there.
You know, I don't all have to look it up, Kenneth.
It's a great question. I know it was that. That
kind of stuff's been discussed in the past, and he

(02:33:43):
may be correct. And for those that don't know, Karmon
Policy was in the front office when the forty nine
ers were kicking people's ass on a regular basis.

Speaker 4 (02:33:51):
And I mean in terms of the offensive line with Tunsul,
with Green, with Mason, all of those guys moving on.
I mean, that's the whole point. They they needed to
be able to change the mindset of that room and
kind of break it down to rebuild it back up.

Speaker 5 (02:34:06):
I like Kenneth's glass half full positive that yeah, you
look at it from a positive, positive point of view,
no doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:34:13):
When we said it yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:34:14):
The way Tunsel handled the media on the way out
and said things about Houston phenomenal love that. The fact
is he committed nineteen penalties and while he's a good player,
it was time to move on. And he'll do well
in Washington if he commits to the offseason and stays
on sides and doesn't have the lack of concentration. But
a good player as far as Kenyan Green goes, I

(02:34:34):
understand mentally, it's not just mental or physical. It is
mental and emotional. Happens to all players losing confidence or
what was said to him. But the bottom line, he
was not a good player here and he was banged up,
and that doesn't mean in Philly he can't rEFInd his
career and be the player that they thought coming out
of Texas A and M. I root for that, but
you got to call it like you see and I
understand that you know, mayhatt his feelings hurt. Unfortunately, the

(02:34:57):
NFL doesn't stop down for guys who get their feelings hurt.

Speaker 2 (02:35:01):
It just doesn't, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:35:02):
And while I know sensitivity matters, the bottom line is
you can't count on that. It's usually incumbent upon the
player to find a way somehow someway to callous up
his mental approach.

Speaker 2 (02:35:15):
I don't know how mentally tough Kenyon Green is.

Speaker 5 (02:35:17):
I don't I know that he wouldn't have been drafted
where he was if somebody didn't have him and hold
him in some kind of high regard. But he's going
to have to re establish that and find mental, emotional
and physical toughness or he'll be a journeyman in the league.

Speaker 4 (02:35:30):
So the Texans don't need a quarterback, but some teams do.
And when it comes to a guy like Aaron Rodgers,
it does seem like patience is wearing out.

Speaker 10 (02:35:37):
Well.

Speaker 4 (02:35:37):
Count Steelers defensive standout and captain Cam Hayward in that group.

Speaker 2 (02:35:43):
He was on the Not Just.

Speaker 4 (02:35:44):
Football podcast asked about Aaron Rodgers and his response, either
you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't.

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
It's that simple. That's the pitch.

Speaker 4 (02:35:55):
He was asked, of course, would he go on a
darkness retreat with Rogers and he said, no, not doing that.
It's just really bottom line, you want to be here,
you don't go ahead and make up your mind.

Speaker 5 (02:36:06):
I'm all in on Cam Heyward's approach. Why for him
to say he's wait till after the game. He doesn't
have the game now at forty one, I hate to say.
And I've been a bang the table for Aaron Rodgers
game four time MVP. He'll be a first ballot Hall
of Famer. You're not winning a super Bowl with him now.
He can't move like he used so he can still
throw it and he's still good. And it's an upgrade
if you have an average quarterback. But the headache right

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now and the baggage is becoming better than the talent.
I'm not waiting on Aaron Rodgers. And if you're in Minnesota,
I wouldn't either. The juice worth the squeeze kind of deal.
You know that somebody they're a pain in the you
know what. But man, I've said on the show two
years ago, when he got to the Jets before he
got hurt, I thought they had a legitimate chance. And
last year was different. He's still good, he can still

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throw it, but he's a different player. He's not Brady
in his forties. Let's just put it that way. I
would not wait on him either. If you're these teams,
because I got news for you. Aaron Rodgers rings on
his finger as a starting quarterback are done.

Speaker 2 (02:37:04):
Just telling you they're done.

Speaker 4 (02:37:05):
Well, we'll see if he makes a decision here sooner
rather than later. But the decision has been made for
us to go ahead and head for the door today.
Tom Sean appreciate it, Buddy, good stuff as always, Triple
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