March 25, 2025 • 13 mins
Following the conclusion of Spring Training, the Astros are now just two days away from Opening Day of the 2025 MLB season. Kicking off their first series of the season Thursday afternoon, the Astros matchup against Juan Soto and the New York Mets for a three game series right here in Houston down at Daikin Park. Anticipating Opening Day followed with a few moves made in the offseason, lots of chatter still circles around the uncertainty on rather or not one of the Astros potentially great prospects; Cam Smith will debut the season opener and in the Astros starting rotation. Showcasing his talents all throughout Spring Training following the trade in the offseason sending Kyle Tucker to the Cubs in exchange for the handful of prospects the Astros acquired, Cam has shown in what many may agree that he has indeed earned a spot on the Astros 40-man roster and should start Opening Day. Sean and Dan take a moment assessing a few similarities the young prospect possesses in comparison to what they've seen from other great players in the league ramping up to their debut.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And his name is Sure Sean, really were find Sports
Talk seven ninety, but you had pretty much the collection
of everybody over there yesterday and pregame everybody's in the clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Of course they want to talk to Cam Smith. Well,
you can't find him in the clubhouse. So you get
out to the field. Oh hey, he's out there in
right field working out with Dave Clark doing all those things,
taking BP all all the stuff on the field. Then
the Astros announced Camp Smith's gonna be available in the dugout.
Immediately when I saw that, and I saw Chris Gordy's video, which,
by the way, you can go to Sports Talk seven
(00:37):
ninety on Twitter and see the video the visit with
Cam Smith, I said, Sean, guys who are purely on
the bubble don't get put in the dugout to speak
with the media. I mean, I understand it's also special occasions,
like when Alex Bragman and Kyle Tucker come to town
this year, they'll probably do something like that. I would
(00:57):
assume the Cubs in the Red Sox will We'll do
that knowing that there's going to be a significant amount
of media that want to talk with them and say,
let's not crowd everybody in the clubhouse kind of Crampton here.
Put them outside and that way we can accommodate mostly everyone.
But knowing that pretty much everybody wanted to talk with them,
they put them in the dugout, and that to me
showed me the decision has been made.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I welcome it with open arms. I don't think there's
one thing not to like about it. I think it's obvious,
like you said, that dugout holding court like you've been
here five years. He's out expanding his game, not worried
about whatever the decision might be. I just like I said,
(01:43):
every now and again, in every sport, a different cat
rolls along regardless of his age.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It does not matter.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And let me tell you someone it comes to maturity
and built different. There's eighteen year olds that are far
more mature than thirty year olds. There just is vice
versa obviously, but not just mature, you know, but just
mature in the way they approach it. Raised right, watched
people in front of them or players in front of
them when they were twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
They're watching sixteen year olds go to work sixteen.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Watching a twenty, or picking their favorite player and saying
that that's how I want to do it, whatever it is,
or a mom and a dad at home, or an
older brother or older sister, whatever it is. And then
they got born with some pretty good DNA man, and
this kid is just I don't know. In a short
period of time. There's a lot of people, and if
(02:35):
you follow baseball, you knew who the if you follow
who the prospects are, but I would know who the
fortieth best prospect in Tampa's organization is that if you
do then you get a hobby. Okay, get a life,
but you get it. They start to roll through it
names across the country. The Dodgers will always have a
guy that we know that their pipeline's sick. When it
comes to rookies and a Rookie of the Year, this
(02:56):
organization's had those guys. Atlanta's had them. You just there's
another Yankees have had him, and you start to look
and say, okay, some some are just built different, and
this guy's that guy. And I get now why it
was easier judging from what you saw because we had
a guy like him. And it's not as good as
(03:19):
the five tool players I think Kyle Tucker is and
can bey he's not the athlete of this guy. He's
just not he I mean, sinewy and wiry and put together.
I'm just talking about pure athletic to me, the explosiveness,
I guess what I'm saying. Sure, And so when you're
saying why are you moving, Well, we knew you weren't
going to pay Kyle Tucker. That's just that's just the
part of the DNA of the organization. So you go
(03:40):
get him and you say, okay, we're holding up or
is there a hold up?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You get paraded, So you get was Nesky and oh,
you know, you start to think, okay, what's what's the
key piece?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It wasn't either one of those guys. It's this dude.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And when you oh, we're getting him, okay, And once
you watch him play, like I said, the reputation came
through the door before he did, and then you watch
him walk through the door, he's actually better than the
reputation at least early returns. And you're going to gets
right and you're going to struggle. He's going to have
his moments of where you're like, was this the right
(04:15):
of course, but you got it. We talk about patients
and staying the course. I'm just telling you the athletes
I've been around that are special. And JB, my buddy
coach JB on a show yesterday were talking about this.
I brought up, I have never been around and I
always have never in sports are hard to say. I
can never remember if there was, but I have never
(04:35):
been around from my high school days all the way
U until day I quit playing, and all these years
that covered it, I have never sat down or watched
a player who was mentally soft turn into mentally tough
and not be a great player or at least a
play maker of some sort.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And now can you turn it around?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You go through adversity, how tough you But if you
can get through adversity, he struggles, that was part of
your DNA. Anyway, you were going to get through it,
whether you were twenty five, whether you were eighteen, or
whether you're thirty five. That's how they're built. And when
it comes to just talent, listen, it doesn't take You
don't even have to watch baseball to watch this kid's
skill set. Now, the deep depth, like Steve Sparks was
(05:16):
talking about yesterday, about under the plate and understanding it.
Just just the awareness and making guys laying off pitches
that are close. I mean, I'm not comparing them to
this guy, but when Barry Bonds was at his very best,
I'm just talking about the eye. Nobody should be comparing it,
because for one, for a handful of seasons, there's nobody
I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Better his steroids and better. And forget the home runs.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I'm talking about if you missed by half an inch
on the plate, he punished you. If you missed by
half an inch off the plate, he laid off it
and walked two hundred plus times, one hundred plus of
them intentional and the great battle. If you go back
and watch Eric Gania and him in a battle in
(06:02):
that year, pitch after pitch, foul after foul, and Ganie
was an elite cy young closer. He was unhittable, extremely power,
I mean, hard, heavy, fastball. Everything he threw that year,
you could not. If you touched him, you were having
a If you fouled him off, you felt pretty good
about it. Laid off, laid off, laid off, and then
he missed one time. Ganye missed one time and he
(06:24):
hammered it into the center field seats on there. I
was watching the game live on TV, and so that
I'm not comparing him, but we all make comparisons to
a young guy or an eye. I'm not saying it
could be bonds, but the comparison of being able to
lay off pitches close like Jordan does most of the time.
And if the kid, as Steve Sparks said, if you
pay your gets to that point, he'll be an MVP
(06:46):
type player. He's got that skill set. So I just
some guys are just different. So I've never been around
a mentally a mentally weak player. It ended up being
a great player and mentally tough years later. That was
part of the DNA. Doesn't mean they can't survive it.
But I'm talking about if you can overcome it early,
and you know, you know when guys can overcome adversity.
(07:08):
So if that's what we're not worried about. The physical skills,
they're all there. If you're worried about, well, what if
he loses his confidence? Every player I've ever known doesn't.
It doesn't matter. The good ones. I'm talking about, the
great ones, quarterbacks, baseball players, pitchers, buddies of mine that
have gone on to have Hall of Fame careers. They
were mentally tough at sixteen, they were emotionally tough at
(07:29):
twenty one, and they were mentally, emotionally and physically tough
at thirty five.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's not mentally weak.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But what kind of comes to mind with what you're
talking about is the perception that was thrown at Peyton
Manning throughout the beginning of his career.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, because he got beat by They got beat by
Florida regularly.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well beat beat by Florida, and then he couldn't beat Brady,
He couldn't beat the Patriots, and people kind of wondering, Hey,
we overvaluing this guy, like is he really that guy?
And then finally in two thousand and six he said, yeah,
I am. I'll beat these guys and then I'll go
win the Super And it's hard to win those type
of games. See when we talk, think about what we
just said, and you're right, all can't beat Brady?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, who did that? That? That's the point.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It's like, when we get a quarterback coming out Stroud
and Jadeen Daniels or any of these guys, what's the
first thing we do well, he's not Mahomes. Well, no kidding,
who is right now? I mean a rookie. Mahomes wasn't
Mahomes as a rookie. Malomes didn't start as a rookie,
but one game he was backing up Alex Smith. So
these comparisons, and it's going to be unfair to Cam
Smith because I'm telling you he is doing what great
(08:33):
players do. Young players, we start comparing, is he the
next one? Soto from it? We start to do that.
You know what I'm saying, Judge, comparisons already out there.
It is big, physical guy, not as tall, but a
physical so they're out there. But with that, the great
thing about those comparisons, did it ever beat down Manning?
It could have a lesser mentally emotionally tough guy would
(08:56):
have wilted in college? Why because he couldn't beat a rival.
And if he listened to what everybody said, goes on.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Hell. Post Colt's career, when he couldn't even.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Grip a football and throw twelve yards, he had his
best statistical season of his lifetime when he came back
in Denver.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And it's the same thing here.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The great thing about the comparisons are not only to
hold him in high regard, He's going to have to
shoulder that as well. That's what great players. Hey, man,
they're already talking. You're a Coonya, You're Juan Soda, You're
Aaron Judge. Well no, you just go do your thing.
But those comparisons come with great and you can't hide
from them. There is no hiding from them at all.
So that's why I always say, Man, the best I've
ever been around. I'm just speaking, the best I've ever
(09:33):
been around have somewhere, some shape form early at some point,
and they've had great Listen, most of these guys had
great success. I have the first bit of adversity. When
it came to sports. I faced. I feel like I
could dominate in every sport, football, basketball, baseball. Is when
I blew out many in college as a sophomore and
I'm like, ysh going to I didn't know how I
was going to deal with it, but unfortunately raised right,
(09:54):
came back, blew shredded again two years later. How are
you gonna come back for? Well, ten years later in
a career, it didn't turn out the way I want to,
but was able to last. So the thing I'm most
proud of is the toughness that you dealt with when
everybody else said, can't come back from this one, because
back then an ACL injury was devastating. Now they're back
from it in eight nine months right now. So with
(10:14):
that for me, is with guys like this that are
just built different. Now it may turn he may not
be in three years from now, we say, what a bummer,
But you what you would have said it eight years from.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Now, you'll know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You'll know.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Doesn't mean he's gonna be a Hall of Fame career.
You can be a great player and not get to
the Hall of Fame. You can be a great quarterback
in this league and never win a Super Bowl. Ass
number thirteen in Miami. So I just I'm all about
put him through the car washing test their ass, and
I'm gonna tell you what early returns for this kid is.
He'll be He's a dynamic player. So for me, I
(10:52):
have zero fear about his failure. How will he overcome it?
If he hits him, it's called hit him, But what
about all the successes he's going to bring and what
he's going to do to make everybody around him better.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's the sign of a good.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Player you're bringing up Mahomes reminds me of that freezing
cold take that always makes its rounds around draft time
of somebody saying, what an absolute just overreach by the Chiefs.
This guy will never amount to anything. And then well,
I mean, look, there are a lot of people at
the time who felt that. They were like Andy Reid,
what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Man?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I talked to Mike Leach, the great who I loved,
and Mike when they were talking about, well, that system,
he's a system quarterback, talented guy. Yeah, but we don't
do that in the NFL, and Leech said, Sean, We're
already doing it. The Patriots spread it out and go
empty backfield mean, and he was right. We just you
may label it different. It's different, different rapper doing it,
(11:41):
but they were already doing it. And and then you
get with a coach who's willing to say, well, I
come from a West Coast offense, Andy Reid, but I'm
gonna start bringing I'm going to do some of the
stuff this kid does. Oh the RPOs in the NFL,
let me add this, and now it's a staple and
so it is, Oh yeah, hey, no, we can't do
it that way all right, because the old guard won't
let you do it that way. Well, the new guard said, no,
(12:03):
we're going to try some different stuff and mix your
stuff with Then we're not just a one system. We're
gonna take this this And that's truly the brilliance of
what Andy Reid did. Instead of pigeonholing him into doing
what Andy Reid said, here's we're gonna do. Great coaches
don't make you adjust to them all the time. You
adjust to your talent. And nobody the last eight years
or so since Mahomes has been in the league has
(12:23):
adjusted to an enormous talent and let him do his
thing while trying to structure it but also letting him
live a little. Then Andy Reid has in this. That's
the brilliance of Andy Reid. It's not just he's a
smart play caller, because you can be a really dumb
play caller if you have bad quarterback. He got a
guy in instead of just saying no, we can't do that,
that's not what we do in the NFL. Start throwing
(12:43):
shovel passes at the two yard line to Kelsey, Well,
we'll be fine, and they go in and score. So
that's the brilliance of a coach that gets outside, gets
out of his own way, and allows a talent to
just go shine. And we got to get out of
Camp Smith's way and let him play.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
The pro style formation, the I formation, all of that
thing of the past. All right, we'll continue the conversation.
Let you hear from Cam Smith and something Joe A.
Spot has said that. On the surface, you hear it
and you're like, oh hey, that sounds good, but I
think there's a little bit more. Roger Tim get to
you guys want to get in talk some astros. We'll
do that here on the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk
(13:20):
seven ninety
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And his name is Sure Sean, really were find Sports
Talk seven ninety, but you had pretty much the collection
of everybody over there yesterday and pregame everybody's in the clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Of course they want to talk to Cam Smith. Well,
you can't find him in the clubhouse. So you get
out to the field. Oh hey, he's out there in
right field working out with Dave Clark doing all those things,
taking BP all all the stuff on the field. Then
the Astros announced Camp Smith's gonna be available in the dugout.
Immediately when I saw that, and I saw Chris Gordy's video, which,
by the way, you can go to Sports Talk seven
(00:37):
ninety on Twitter and see the video the visit with
Cam Smith, I said, Sean, guys who are purely on
the bubble don't get put in the dugout to speak
with the media. I mean, I understand it's also special occasions,
like when Alex Bragman and Kyle Tucker come to town
this year, they'll probably do something like that. I would
(00:57):
assume the Cubs in the Red Sox will We'll do
that knowing that there's going to be a significant amount
of media that want to talk with them and say,
let's not crowd everybody in the clubhouse kind of Crampton here.
Put them outside and that way we can accommodate mostly everyone.
But knowing that pretty much everybody wanted to talk with them,
they put them in the dugout, and that to me
showed me the decision has been made.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I welcome it with open arms. I don't think there's
one thing not to like about it. I think it's obvious,
like you said, that dugout holding court like you've been
here five years. He's out expanding his game, not worried
about whatever the decision might be. I just like I said,
(01:43):
every now and again, in every sport, a different cat
rolls along regardless of his age.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It does not matter.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And let me tell you someone it comes to maturity
and built different. There's eighteen year olds that are far
more mature than thirty year olds. There just is vice
versa obviously, but not just mature, you know, but just
mature in the way they approach it. Raised right, watched
people in front of them or players in front of
them when they were twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
They're watching sixteen year olds go to work sixteen.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Watching a twenty, or picking their favorite player and saying
that that's how I want to do it, whatever it is,
or a mom and a dad at home, or an
older brother or older sister, whatever it is. And then
they got born with some pretty good DNA man, and
this kid is just I don't know. In a short
period of time. There's a lot of people, and if
(02:35):
you follow baseball, you knew who the if you follow
who the prospects are, but I would know who the
fortieth best prospect in Tampa's organization is that if you
do then you get a hobby. Okay, get a life,
but you get it. They start to roll through it
names across the country. The Dodgers will always have a
guy that we know that their pipeline's sick. When it
comes to rookies and a Rookie of the Year, this
(02:56):
organization's had those guys. Atlanta's had them. You just there's
another Yankees have had him, and you start to look
and say, okay, some some are just built different, and
this guy's that guy. And I get now why it
was easier judging from what you saw because we had
a guy like him. And it's not as good as
(03:19):
the five tool players I think Kyle Tucker is and
can bey he's not the athlete of this guy. He's
just not he I mean, sinewy and wiry and put together.
I'm just talking about pure athletic to me, the explosiveness,
I guess what I'm saying. Sure, And so when you're
saying why are you moving, Well, we knew you weren't
going to pay Kyle Tucker. That's just that's just the
part of the DNA of the organization. So you go
(03:40):
get him and you say, okay, we're holding up or
is there a hold up?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You get paraded, So you get was Nesky and oh,
you know, you start to think, okay, what's what's the
key piece?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It wasn't either one of those guys. It's this dude.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And when you oh, we're getting him, okay, And once
you watch him play, like I said, the reputation came
through the door before he did, and then you watch
him walk through the door, he's actually better than the
reputation at least early returns. And you're going to gets
right and you're going to struggle. He's going to have
his moments of where you're like, was this the right
(04:15):
of course, but you got it. We talk about patients
and staying the course. I'm just telling you the athletes
I've been around that are special. And JB, my buddy
coach JB on a show yesterday were talking about this.
I brought up, I have never been around and I
always have never in sports are hard to say. I
can never remember if there was, but I have never
(04:35):
been around from my high school days all the way
U until day I quit playing, and all these years
that covered it, I have never sat down or watched
a player who was mentally soft turn into mentally tough
and not be a great player or at least a
play maker of some sort.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And now can you turn it around?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You go through adversity, how tough you But if you
can get through adversity, he struggles, that was part of
your DNA. Anyway, you were going to get through it,
whether you were twenty five, whether you were eighteen, or
whether you're thirty five. That's how they're built. And when
it comes to just talent, listen, it doesn't take You
don't even have to watch baseball to watch this kid's
skill set. Now, the deep depth, like Steve Sparks was
(05:16):
talking about yesterday, about under the plate and understanding it.
Just just the awareness and making guys laying off pitches
that are close. I mean, I'm not comparing them to
this guy, but when Barry Bonds was at his very best,
I'm just talking about the eye. Nobody should be comparing it,
because for one, for a handful of seasons, there's nobody
I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Better his steroids and better. And forget the home runs.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I'm talking about if you missed by half an inch
on the plate, he punished you. If you missed by
half an inch off the plate, he laid off it
and walked two hundred plus times, one hundred plus of
them intentional and the great battle. If you go back
and watch Eric Gania and him in a battle in
(06:02):
that year, pitch after pitch, foul after foul, and Ganie
was an elite cy young closer. He was unhittable, extremely power,
I mean, hard, heavy, fastball. Everything he threw that year,
you could not. If you touched him, you were having
a If you fouled him off, you felt pretty good
about it. Laid off, laid off, laid off, and then
he missed one time. Ganye missed one time and he
(06:24):
hammered it into the center field seats on there. I
was watching the game live on TV, and so that
I'm not comparing him, but we all make comparisons to
a young guy or an eye. I'm not saying it
could be bonds, but the comparison of being able to
lay off pitches close like Jordan does most of the time.
And if the kid, as Steve Sparks said, if you
pay your gets to that point, he'll be an MVP
(06:46):
type player. He's got that skill set. So I just
some guys are just different. So I've never been around
a mentally a mentally weak player. It ended up being
a great player and mentally tough years later. That was
part of the DNA. Doesn't mean they can't survive it.
But I'm talking about if you can overcome it early,
and you know, you know when guys can overcome adversity.
(07:08):
So if that's what we're not worried about. The physical skills,
they're all there. If you're worried about, well, what if
he loses his confidence? Every player I've ever known doesn't.
It doesn't matter. The good ones. I'm talking about, the
great ones, quarterbacks, baseball players, pitchers, buddies of mine that
have gone on to have Hall of Fame careers. They
were mentally tough at sixteen, they were emotionally tough at
(07:29):
twenty one, and they were mentally, emotionally and physically tough
at thirty five.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's not mentally weak.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But what kind of comes to mind with what you're
talking about is the perception that was thrown at Peyton
Manning throughout the beginning of his career.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, because he got beat by They got beat by
Florida regularly.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well beat beat by Florida, and then he couldn't beat Brady,
He couldn't beat the Patriots, and people kind of wondering, Hey,
we overvaluing this guy, like is he really that guy?
And then finally in two thousand and six he said, yeah,
I am. I'll beat these guys and then I'll go
win the Super And it's hard to win those type
of games. See when we talk, think about what we
just said, and you're right, all can't beat Brady?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, who did that? That? That's the point.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It's like, when we get a quarterback coming out Stroud
and Jadeen Daniels or any of these guys, what's the
first thing we do well, he's not Mahomes. Well, no kidding,
who is right now? I mean a rookie. Mahomes wasn't
Mahomes as a rookie. Malomes didn't start as a rookie,
but one game he was backing up Alex Smith. So
these comparisons, and it's going to be unfair to Cam
Smith because I'm telling you he is doing what great
(08:33):
players do. Young players, we start comparing, is he the
next one? Soto from it? We start to do that.
You know what I'm saying, Judge, comparisons already out there.
It is big, physical guy, not as tall, but a
physical so they're out there. But with that, the great
thing about those comparisons, did it ever beat down Manning?
It could have a lesser mentally emotionally tough guy would
(08:56):
have wilted in college? Why because he couldn't beat a rival.
And if he listened to what everybody said, goes on.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Hell. Post Colt's career, when he couldn't even.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Grip a football and throw twelve yards, he had his
best statistical season of his lifetime when he came back
in Denver.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And it's the same thing here.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The great thing about the comparisons are not only to
hold him in high regard, He's going to have to
shoulder that as well. That's what great players. Hey, man,
they're already talking. You're a Coonya, You're Juan Soda, You're
Aaron Judge. Well no, you just go do your thing.
But those comparisons come with great and you can't hide
from them. There is no hiding from them at all.
So that's why I always say, Man, the best I've
ever been around. I'm just speaking, the best I've ever
(09:33):
been around have somewhere, some shape form early at some point,
and they've had great Listen, most of these guys had
great success. I have the first bit of adversity. When
it came to sports. I faced. I feel like I
could dominate in every sport, football, basketball, baseball. Is when
I blew out many in college as a sophomore and
I'm like, ysh going to I didn't know how I
was going to deal with it, but unfortunately raised right,
(09:54):
came back, blew shredded again two years later. How are
you gonna come back for? Well, ten years later in
a career, it didn't turn out the way I want to,
but was able to last. So the thing I'm most
proud of is the toughness that you dealt with when
everybody else said, can't come back from this one, because
back then an ACL injury was devastating. Now they're back
from it in eight nine months right now. So with
(10:14):
that for me, is with guys like this that are
just built different. Now it may turn he may not
be in three years from now, we say, what a bummer,
But you what you would have said it eight years from.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Now, you'll know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You'll know.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Doesn't mean he's gonna be a Hall of Fame career.
You can be a great player and not get to
the Hall of Fame. You can be a great quarterback
in this league and never win a Super Bowl. Ass
number thirteen in Miami. So I just I'm all about
put him through the car washing test their ass, and
I'm gonna tell you what early returns for this kid is.
He'll be He's a dynamic player. So for me, I
(10:52):
have zero fear about his failure. How will he overcome it?
If he hits him, it's called hit him, But what
about all the successes he's going to bring and what
he's going to do to make everybody around him better.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's the sign of a good.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Player you're bringing up Mahomes reminds me of that freezing
cold take that always makes its rounds around draft time
of somebody saying, what an absolute just overreach by the Chiefs.
This guy will never amount to anything. And then well,
I mean, look, there are a lot of people at
the time who felt that. They were like Andy Reid,
what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Man?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I talked to Mike Leach, the great who I loved,
and Mike when they were talking about, well, that system,
he's a system quarterback, talented guy. Yeah, but we don't
do that in the NFL, and Leech said, Sean, We're
already doing it. The Patriots spread it out and go
empty backfield mean, and he was right. We just you
may label it different. It's different, different rapper doing it,
(11:41):
but they were already doing it. And and then you
get with a coach who's willing to say, well, I
come from a West Coast offense, Andy Reid, but I'm
gonna start bringing I'm going to do some of the
stuff this kid does. Oh the RPOs in the NFL,
let me add this, and now it's a staple and
so it is, Oh yeah, hey, no, we can't do
it that way all right, because the old guard won't
let you do it that way. Well, the new guard said, no,
(12:03):
we're going to try some different stuff and mix your
stuff with Then we're not just a one system. We're
gonna take this this And that's truly the brilliance of
what Andy Reid did. Instead of pigeonholing him into doing
what Andy Reid said, here's we're gonna do. Great coaches
don't make you adjust to them all the time. You
adjust to your talent. And nobody the last eight years
or so since Mahomes has been in the league has
(12:23):
adjusted to an enormous talent and let him do his
thing while trying to structure it but also letting him
live a little. Then Andy Reid has in this. That's
the brilliance of Andy Reid. It's not just he's a
smart play caller, because you can be a really dumb
play caller if you have bad quarterback. He got a
guy in instead of just saying no, we can't do that,
that's not what we do in the NFL. Start throwing
(12:43):
shovel passes at the two yard line to Kelsey, Well,
we'll be fine, and they go in and score. So
that's the brilliance of a coach that gets outside, gets
out of his own way, and allows a talent to
just go shine. And we got to get out of
Camp Smith's way and let him play.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
The pro style formation, the I formation, all of that
thing of the past. All right, we'll continue the conversation.
Let you hear from Cam Smith and something Joe A.
Spot has said that. On the surface, you hear it
and you're like, oh hey, that sounds good, but I
think there's a little bit more. Roger Tim get to
you guys want to get in talk some astros. We'll
do that here on the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk
(13:20):
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