Astros Opening Day Approaching, Cam Smith's Popularity In Houston, Rockets Vs. Hawks Tip Off Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Shawsbury Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury to usc Troup's longtime
friend Shawn Salisbury, Dan Matthews. This is the Sewn Salsbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Cam Smith firstening two run triple, also making a nice
play out in right Field. Rockets home tonight for the Hawks.
Six o'clock Rockets, launch Pad and Sean six Roping Steers
get loose on a north freeway yesterday afternoon at about
eleven thirty in the morning and at about three point thirty,

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the Harris County Sheriff's Department said, all in the all
back in the trailer. They're good to go, but supposedly
had to use cowboys, including one guy. I was watching
ABC thirteen this morning. A guy said he was watching
it on TV, saw the Sky thirteen flying over and said, well,
you know what, I'm gonna load my horse up, I'm
gonna get my lasso, and I'm gonna go out and help.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I friggin love it. Only in Texas, are you like
people instead of chasing them down, or like, let's grab
our rope. That's the great thing. A bunch of ropers
in there and they can get it and stop it.
In a hurry. That's one too, is I was more
worried about the cows than I were the people. Didn't
care about the people. Run their ass over. I'm all
for it. And I noticed watching those cows are a
little more athletic than the guy's blocking for CJ. Stroud

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last year. Not true. We could maybe brand them and
get them out there and let's go play some football.
But yeah, when a couple of times I so them
put a little move on and go right by a
guy who kind of gotten away, run their ass over,
walk right through them. Combine, you know, we've had to combine.
We got pro days and stuff. They looked pretty athletic.
I honestly was far more worried I swear to you
about the animal that I was about the people in

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their cars.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, and that's I saw some of the footage like,
including people who thought, because in my mind, I think
they watched too much Yellowstone, they thought they were like
Teeter right there in the shoot of you know, hey,
I can do that, hey hey, and be able to
scare stop him. But one of the Harris County Sheriff's
deputies that I saw quoted here talked about, well, they're
roping steers, so they're used to being in the shoot,

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running out of the shoots, so to them probably dodging
cars and people. They were just like, Okay, hey, you know,
it's just like being back in the arena, normal.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Day in the arena. I freaking loved it. And it's
like I said, if you did this in California, Newsom
would like shoot him. Okay, no, no, I think they
would look for the humane way. Well, or he'd probably
ask them if the male cow wanted to play in
the field. Oh that's right, he switched, hasn't he did

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he make the switch to say that he's against men playing?
Do you know that every single vote from a Democrat
voted to to not? I mean to throw out they
want men to still be able to compete in women's sports.
I digress.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I tell people all the time, if you're looking to
Paulitic to be the moral compass for you, you're going
to be sadly disappointed one way or not.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Especially in my home state. It's pathetic. But if that
happened in California, well, who knows, we'd be probably taking
them over to a celebrity's house asking them if they're
especially the baby calves and making sure that at two
years old, the baby calf had every uh was able
to make the decision on whether they wanted to turn
to a male or a female calf.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
My guess is that the driver, plus you know the
fact that he's driving probably a diesel truck, that they
would have gotten into more trouble than the cows.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
The cows, the poor cows, they would have had nothing
to do with. But they would just let him run.
Will I wouldn't have known what to do. They and
what's the saying? You know, it's been taking a long
time for the cows to come home. Fortunately we got
them done here. But only in Texas can you turn
an I forty five into a roping you know, into
an arena and get it done and get them home safe.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
See stereotypes exists for a reason. And what I have
thought about yesterday, and I think WEX threw this out
on Twitter. Imagine like somebody just looking on their ex
feed or any type of news feed whatever it is
up in New York, out in California, anywhere else where.
You have preconceived stereotypes of a certain place, and they
see cows get on the loose in a Texas freeway

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and they're probably out there saying, oh, of course it's Texas.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's why.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Because most people still think that we ride our horses
to work. I mean, you know, I rode mine in
this morning. I don't I don't know if the mails
delivered stage code, there you go, there you go, got that,
you know all those things. We've still got tumbleweed. I mean,
who was it when the Ohio State that when they
were going to play in Dallas for the Cotton Bowl
that their graphic had cacti and also, uh, tumbleweed as

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part of it. So, I mean people still think that
exists here, although here in Houston.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Can man, don't think that everybody's got an IQ or
a brain higher than an IQ higher than four. Oh.
I find that out on a daily basis. And now
California's filled with them. And that's sadly to say that's
my home state. It's not the state, it's the people.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, the movie Idiocracy, Mike Judge, it's quickly becoming a documentary.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
There's no question about it. But good on our people
here in Texas to keep those cows safe. Making a
kind of a fun little athletic move they do more there.
They did more there than they do with the combine.
Yeah you could. We saw some moves. So I uh,
I loved I freaking love that story, man, I do.
And I love it when you talk about a guy
went and got his rope and I'm gonna drive my

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truck over there. And I'm surprised we didn't have what
are the little ones called the uh when they ride
the little bull? What's one of those guys called the fair?
They have the there's a certain name they get a winner,
you know what I'm saying, Not the not the you know,
the youth. When there's a name for it, where the
kid wins the they call it the he's the blank

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of the year, the where it's a little one riding
those little bulls or little there really mutton there you go, Yeah,
a little calv but yeah, for she is a cheaper
catt on sheep. Yeah, calves sheep. What the hell? Okay,
they all look the same from a distance. That's when
somebody in New York and California you'd say, oh, I
look the same. Well, yeah, mutton busted. Yeah I was

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a boy. We didn't get a big old mutton to
throw a kid up there. On a bigger cows and
let's go even though it wasn't a sheep.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, I'm almost wondering if some people thought they'd be
like the movie The Cowboy Way, you know, be like
many Harrelson keeper Sutherland right there of you know, hey,
let's let's let's show people what we can do here.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
But just you know, to wrap this one up.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I mean, I've said it numerous times that the rodeo
for us here, we don't really do the Western way
here in Houston. Two and a half weeks a year
will cosplay. Like if you showed up today wearing Western war,
I'd be like, Sean, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Right? I mean that's the final show up wearing Western
Western ware to the rodeo. Yeah's blue g yoursel. But
I mean I don't have you know, I show up
in a baseball cap and bud jeans and a and
if it was cold out, a flannel shirt ratherwise a
little Henley and let's go.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
So no no John Dutton vests, no no belt buckles.
So I'm not And kudos to those who do their
true cowboys or plowboys, whatever it is you do. I'm
okay with it, but I'm not, well, I love it
here in Texas is home for me. Now, I don't
dress the part at the jet So if I'm not
doing it at the fair or the rodeo, I'm sure
as hell I'm not doing it two weeks after, a

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week after, and you know when we're sitting in here
and your pointy boots are on, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean,
you know, And it's funny.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You know, when college game Day was up in Montana,
I think it was a couple of years ago, there
was a sign in the crowd that said Yellowstone is
a show.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Stop moving here. Was that was that when Faldo was
a guest picker. Yeah, it was, yeah, two years ago, right.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, And I mean just the whole point is is
people up there were like, hey, look, we're not all
the Duttons. We this isn't the way of life here.
This isn't basically the organized crime and everything that you
have on the show.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
There's there's none of that. So we're not It isn't
the the Hatfields. McCoy's really aren't shooting each other in
the middle of the street, or you know, like you said,
we're not tying our horse up. But the you know,
the t I up to go to a saloon. Okay, Hell,
I'm trying to find a good sports bar town. I
find a saloon would be a would be pretty awesome,
that would be it'd be awesome. But yeah, we don't

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get to go to where you know, they're filming westerns
and do that.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Here.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
We're actually a pretty cool, normal state. Yeah. Unfortunately, some
of the states we just mentioned don't quite think like that,
and they think that we still living there. Well, that's
that's why they're all moving here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, they're all moving here because they want to be
part of it, you know. And then they get here
and they're like, well, wait a minute. You guys just
drive cars, you drive on paved roads, You've got big
tall buildings.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
What is this.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
We go to work like everybody else there, you go bingo, right, Yeah,
we're not doing We don't unfortunately, get to grill, I mean,
get to smoke barbecue every day. We go through drive
throughs like everybody else. Yeah. Shocker. Okay, So I love
our state, man, and just that validated last night. Just
these cool bastards making sure these cows are safe, and
I guarantee they're thinking, well, don't worry about the car

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that gets dented. Who cares about that. Let's make sure
these cattle are safe. This is this is going to
be an aged reference.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I think most of our audience will get it, and
me and you included the old Paul Harvey think of
That's that's what it was. It was the the memory
of Paul Harvey was thought about yesterday with that of Hey,
thank a farmer, thank a cowboy, think a rancher.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know, that's that's that's one thing. All those people
who talk crap about our state here. Yeah, you want
just like Nicholas said, you want them on that wall.
You need me on that wall. You need some cowboys
and some and some good old texts. People that will
do stuff that won't run from it. They run right
to it. Hard people, damn right. That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Hard peat right, know how to work hard, heartbeat hard people,
create prosperous times.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's what it is. I like that, all right. So yeah,
the Steers they're all good. Everything is all good. There.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
We're two days away from opening day and we got
a little bit of a taste of it last night.
Cam Smith very first inning at the plate. He's got
two guys on and he says, right field line, here
we go.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm not when he put that foot on first base
and with third you think he had a triple in mind?
Damn right he did? You convinced?

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yet?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Oh it and more than convinced. And I mean there
was something that happened yesterday that sealed it for me.
And it wasn't the triple. It wasn't the nice play
out in right field. East Okpretis and Janner Diaz both
go deep, but again it's the space cowboys, So take
it with a grain of salt to a certain point.
But still nice to see them back inside dik and Park.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, man alive. I'll tell you another thing. The way
that kid runs, well, they may put him in a
six hole if he started right fielder. I'll tell you, buddy,
you could actually put that full near the top of
the lineup and out that monster talent. He's a freak.
And he just continues to validate what I think most
of us think. What are we waiting on?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's what it seems like. And it seems like maybe
that easter egg was dropped to yesterday. So we'll actually
get into that next. Because Cam Smith's saying a couple
of interesting things during his visit with the media yesterday,
so we'll talk about that. Also to the NCAA tournament.
Is March madness dead some people think so. Well, we'll

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get into that as the show goes along. And interesting enough,
Nico Collins on a podcast talking about one of the
most influential figures on the Texans and saying he knew
it from the beginning. We'll touch on that as well.
We're just getting started here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Roger John see you guys right there on the phone lines.
We'll work you in here pretty quickly as well. Again,

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it is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
And his name is sure Sean.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Really we're find sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
But you had pretty much the collection of everybody over
there yesterday and pregame everybody's in the clubhouse. Of course
they want to talk to Cam Smith. Well, you can't
find him in the clubhouse. So you get out to
the field. Oh hey, he's out there in right field
working out with Dave Clark doing all those things, taking
BP all all the stuff on the field. Then the
astros announced camp Smith's gonna be available in the dugout.

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Immediately when I saw that, and I saw Chris Gordy's video, which,
by the way, you can go to Sports Talk seven
ninety on Twitter and see the video the visit with
Cam Smith, I said, Sean, guys who are purely on
the bubble don't get put in the dugout to speak
with the media. I mean, I understand it's also special occasions,
like when Alex Bragman and Kyle Tucker come to town

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this year, they'll probably do something like that. I would
assume the Cubs in the Red Sox will will do
that knowing that there's going to be a significant amount
of media that want to talk with them, and say,
let's not crowd everybody in the clubhouse kind of Crampton here,
put him outside and that way we can accommodate mostly everyone.
But knowing that pretty much everybody wanted to talk with them,
they put him in the dugout, and that to me

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showed me the decision has been made.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I welcome it with open arms. I don't think there's
one thing not to like about it. I think it's obvious,
like you said, that dugout holding court like you've been
here five He's out expanding his game, not worried about
whatever the decision might be. I just like I said,

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every now and again, in every sport, a different cat
rolls along regardless of his age. It does not matter.
Let me tell you someone, it comes to maturity and
built different. There's eighteen year olds that are far more
mature than thirty year olds. There just is, and vice
versa obviously, but not just mature, you know, but just

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mature in the way they approach it. Raised right, watched
people in front of them or players in front of
them when they were twelve. They're watching sixteen year olds
go to work sixteen watching a twenty or picking their
favorite player and saying that that's how I want to
do it, whatever it is, or a mom and a
dad at home, or an older brother or older sister,
whatever it is. And then they got born with some

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pretty good DNA, man, and this kid is just I
don't know. In a short period of time, there's a
lot of people, and if you follow baseball, you knew
who the if you follow who the prospects are. But
I would know who the fortieth best prospect in Tampa's
organization is that if you do, then you get a hobby. Okay,
get a life. But you get it. They start to

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roll through it names across the country. The Dodgers will
always have a guy that we know that that their
pipeline's sick when it comes to rookies and a Rookie
of the Year. This organization's had those guys. Atlanta's had him.
You just there's another Yankees have had him, and you
start to look and say, okay, some some are just
built different, and this guy's that guy. And I get

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now why it was easier judging from what you saw
because we had a guy like him, and it's not
as good as the five tool players. I think Kyle
Tucker is and can Bey he's not the athlete of
this guy. He's just not I mean, sinwy and wirey
and put together. I'm just talking about pure athletic to me,

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the explosiveness, I guess what I'm saying. Sure, And so
when you're saying why are you moving, Well, we knew
you weren't going to pay Kyle Tucker. That's just that's
just the part of the DNA of the organization. So
you go get him and you say, okay, we'll holding
up or is there a hold up? What is it?

Speaker 8 (15:11):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
You get paraded, so you get was nesky and oh,
you know, you start to think, okay, what's what's the
key piece. It wasn't either one of those guys. It's
this dude. And when you oh, we're getting him, okay,
And once you watch him play, like I said, the
reputation came through the door before he did, and then
you watch him walk through the door, he's actually better

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than the reputation at least early returns. And you're going
to it's right, and you're going to struggle. He's going
to have his moments of where you're like, was this
the right move? Of course? But you got it. We
talk about patients and staying the course. I'm just telling
you the athletes I've been around that are that are special.
And JB, my buddy coach JB, on a show yesterday
were talking about this. I brought up, I have never

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been around and I always have never in sports are
hard to say. I can never remember if there was,
but I have never been around from my high school
days all the way until day I quit playing, and
all these years that covered it, I have never sat
down or watched a player who was mentally soft turn
into mentally tough and not be a great player or

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at least a play maker of some sort. And now
can you turn it around? You go through adversity, how
tough you but if you can get through adversity struggles
that was part of your DNA. Anyway, you were going
to get through it, whether you're twenty five, whether you're eighteen,
or whether you're thirty five. That's how they're built. And
when it comes to just talent, listen, it doesn't take

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You don't even have to watch baseball to watch this
kid's skill set. Now the deep depth, like Steve Sparks
was talking about yesterday about under the plate and understanding
it just just the awareness and making guys laying off
pitches that are close. I mean, I'm not comparing them
to this guy, but when Barry Bonds was at his
very best, I'm just talking about the eye. Nobody should
be comparing it because for one, for a handful of seas,

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there's nobody I've ever seen in my lifetime better the
steroids and a better and forget the home runs. I'm
talking about if you missed by half an inch on
the plate. He punished you if you missed by half
an inch off the plate he he he laid off
it and walked two hundred plus times, one hundred plus

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of them intentional. And the great battle. If you go
back and watch Eric Gania and him in a battle
in that year, pitch after pitch, foul after foul, and
Ganie was an elite cy young closer. He was unhittable,
extremely power, I mean hard, heavy fastball. Everything he threw
that year, you could not if you touched him, you

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were having a If you fouled him off, you felt
pretty good about it. Laid off, laid off, laid off,
and then he missed one time. Ganya missed one time
and he hammered it into the center field seats on there.
I was watching the game live on TV, and so
that I'm not comparing him, but we all make comparison
to a young guy or an eye. I'm not saying
he could be Bonds, but the comparison of being able

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to lay off pitches close like Jordan does most of
the time. And if the kid, as Steve Sparks said,
if you paying your gets to that point, he'll be
an MVP type player. He's got that skill set, So
I just some guys are just different. So I've never
been around a mentally weak player. They ended up being
a great player. Mentally tough twenty years later. That was

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part of the DNA. Doesn't mean they can't survive it.
But I'm talking about if you can overcome it early,
and you know, you know when guys can overcome adversity.
So if that's what we're not worried about. The physical skills,
they're all there. If you're worried about, well, what if
he loses his confidence? Every player I've ever known doesn't.
It doesn't matter. The good ones. I'm talking about, the
great ones quarterbacks, baseball players, pitchers, buddies of mine that

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have gone on to have Hall of Fame careers. They
were mentally tough at sixteen, they were emotionally tough at
twenty one, and they were mentally, emotionally and physically tough
at thirty five. It's not mentally weak.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
But what kind of comes to mind with what you're
talking about is the perception that was thrown at Peyton
Manning throughout the beginning of his career.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Well because he got beat by got beat by Florida
regularly well.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Beat beat by Florida, and then he couldn't beat Brady,
He couldn't beat the Patriots, and people kind of wondering, hey,
we overvaluing this guy, like is he really that guy?
And then finally in two thousand and six he said, yeah,
I am. I'll beat these guys and then I'll go
win the super Bowl and.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
What It's hard to win those type of games. See
when we talk, think about what we just said, and
you're right, oh, can't beat Brady? Well who did that?
That's the point. It's like, when we get a quarterback
come out Stroud and Jadeen Daniels or any of these guys.
What's the first thing we do? Well, he's not Mahomes. Well,
no kidding, who is right now? I mean a rookie

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co Mahomes wasn't Mahomes as a rookie. Malmes didn't start
as a rookie. But one game he's backing up Alex Smith.
So these comparisons, and it's going to be unfair to
Cam Smith because I'm telling you he is doing what
great players do. Young players, we start comparing is he
the next one? Soto from it? And we start to
do that, you know, what I'm saying, Judge, comparisons already
out there. It is big, physical guy, not as tall,

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but a physical they're out there. But with that, the
great thing about those comparisons, did it ever beat down Manning?
It could have a lesser mentally emotionally tough guy would
have wilted in college? Why because he couldn't beat a rival.
And if he listened to what everybody said, goes on. Hell,
post Colt's career, when he couldn't even grip a football

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and throw twelve yards, he had his best statistical season
of his lifetime when he came back in Denver. And
it's the same thing here. The great thing about the
comparisons are not only to hold him in high regard,
He's going to have to shoulder that as well. That's
what great players, hey Man compared. They're already talking. You're
a coonya, You're Juan Soda, you're Aaron Judge. Well no,
you just go do your thing. But those comparisons come

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with great and you can't hide from them. There is
no hiding from them at all. So that's why I
always say, man, the best I've ever been around. I'm
just speaking the best I've been around, have somewhere, some
shape form early at some point, and they've had great Listen,
most of these guys had great success. I have the
first bit of adversity. When it came to sports I faced.
I feel like I could dominate in every sport, football, basketball, baseball.

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Is when I blew out many in college as a
sophomore and I'm like, gosh, how you going to I
didn't know how I was gonna deal with it, but
unfortunately raised right, came back, blow shredded again two years later,
how are you gonna come back to?

Speaker 9 (21:24):
Well?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Ten years later in her career, it didn't turn out
the way I wanted to, but was able to last.
So the thing I'm most proud of is the toughness
that you dealt with when everybody else said, can't come
back from this one, because back then an ACL injury
was devastating. Now they're back from it in eight nine
months right now. So with that for me is with
guys like this that are just built different. Now, it

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may turn he may not be in three years from now,
we say what a bummer, But you what you would
have said it eight years from now, you'll know, You'll
know doesn't mean he's gonna be a Hall of Fame career.
You can be a great player and not get to
the Hall of Fame. You can be a great quarterback
in this league and never win a Super Bowl. Ass
number thirteen in Miami. So I just I'm all about

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put him through the car washing test, the ass and
I'm gonna tell you what early returns for this kid is.
He'll be He's a dynamic player. So for me, I
have zero fear about his failure. How will he overcome it?
If he hits him, it's called hit him. But what
about all the successes he's gonna bring and what he's
going to do to make everybody around him better? That's

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the sign of a good player. You're bringing up.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Mahomes reminds me of that freezing cold take that always
makes its rounds around draft time of somebody saying, what
an absolute just overreach by the Chiefs. This guy will
never amount to anything? And then well, I mean, look,
there are a lot of people at the time who
felt that they were like Andy Reid, what the hell
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Man? Well, I talked to Mike Leach, the great who
I loved, and Mike when they were talking about well,
that system. He's a system quarterback, talented guy. Yeah, but
we don't do that in the NFL. And Leech said,
Sean were already doing it. The Patriot spread it out
and go empty backfield, which really means and he was right,
we just he may label it different. It's different, different

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rapper doing it, but they were already doing it. And
and then you get with a coach who is willing
to say, well, I come from a West Coast offense,
Andy Reid, but I'm gonna start bringing I'm gonna do
some of the stuff this kid does. Let me add this.
And now it's a staple. And so it is oh, yeah, hey,
no we can't do it that way. Why because the
old guard won't let you do it that way. Well,

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the new guard said, no, we're gonna try some different
stuff and mix your stuff and then we're not just
a one system. We're gonna take this, this, this, And
that's truly the brilliance of what Andy Reid did instead
of pigeonholing him into doing what Andy Reid said, here's
what we're gonna do. Great coaches don't make you adjust
to them all the time. You adjust to your talent
and nobody the last eight years or so since Mahomes

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has been in the league has adjusted to an enormous
talent and let him do his thing while trying to
structure it, but also letting him live a little than
Andy Reid hasn't this. That's the brilliance of a and
he read. It's not just he's a smart play caller,
because you can be a really dumb play caller if
you have a bad quarterback. Yeah, he got a guy.
Instead of just saying no, we can't do that, that's
not what we do in the NFL, start throwing shovel

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passes at the two yard line to Kelsey, Well, we'll
be fine, and they go in to score. So that's
the brilliance of a coach that gets outside, gets out
of his own way, and allows a talent to just
go shine. And we got to get out of camp
Smith's way and let him play.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Rip the pro style formation, the I formation, all of
that thing of the past. All right, we'll continue the conversation.
Let you hear from Cam Smith and something Joe A.
Spot has said that. On the surface, you hear it
and you're like, oh, hey, that sounds good, But I
think there's a little bit more, Roger, Tim get to
you guys who want to get in talk some astros.
We'll do that here on the Sewn Salisbury Show. Sports

(24:47):
Talk seven to ninety. The Seawan Salisbury Show continued, Roger,
what's going on?

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Good morning, Sean Dan, mister e hey, can't Smith. It
just validated your porn from last week, Sean on. You know,
the biggest complains about, well, he hasn't seen any major
league pitches, and if you put him back in Triple A,
he's gonna just see more minor league pitches. So it's
just it's the catch twenty two. This guy's got the

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great eye. He's he's very comfortable with the plate. Even
when he strikes out, he's not being fooled. He's just
getting beat on a good pitch. That's all you want
to see from from a guy coming up. Really, that's
all you need to be looking at, you know, besides
his fielding, which I think is gonna be just fine. Uh,
let me ask you a question. You don't remember when
Bregman came up and Tucker came up.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, we talked about it yesterday. They couldn't hit their
way out of a wet paper bag their first one
hundred at bats. Exactly, it turned out okay for both
of them.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Right correct, Tucker looked like he was swatting at mosquitos.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I mean, I mean seriously, Yeah, Bally's sitting on four
hundred million pretty soon if he has a good this year. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
He couldn't lay off of a of a of a
head high fastball.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
To save his life.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
And you know, and I'm just saying, you know, the
o Pine, if he works out his uh his little
deficiencies with low and away pitches, he's gonna be great too.
Uh So, yeah, it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
You don't really know.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
There's no science to this. There's no you know, mathematics
solution about how did judge up and coming pitches? Just
you know, when you know, And as far as the
eye test is concerned, he's answered all the questions. He
checked all the boxes.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Man, Hey doesn't Hey real quick, Roger, what about Paul Skeins?
You get him out of LSU. We know the guy's
a stud. Hek starting in an All Star game. I mean,
do you think they knew they knew something about his
DNA and his stuff? So well, we don't want to
rush him. Let's go let him pitch in single A
would have been like pitching in the little league for
the dude, okay, and then double A and Triple A.

(26:54):
They rushed him through because he well, he's built different, right,
and it turns out okay's good now, right, So there's
just certain guys you get you run it right. I
just and if you found out that he struggled a
little bit, guess what, then you'll send his ass to
triple A and go get it right, what's a big deal.
We all got to go and get in and get
schooled on some and need a little extra coaching. Maybe

(27:15):
this kid goes back, but maybe he doesn't spend another
day in the minor leagues. So the only way we're
gonna find out rogers what throw Yeah, damn right.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
You don't have you don't have a team of top
to bottom all stars murders role here not anymore. So yeah,
let's go in and and and play the kid. Okay,
all no, my cougar's dude, this is gonna be this
is I know they're they're they're a seven point favorite,
but I don't think I doesn't feel like it. I
feel this is gonna be a dock down drag out.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
I see a lot of files, and I see a
lot of files on with the big men, gotcha, because uh,
Purdue's got some guys that can they can, they can
weigh you down a little bit and uh some outside shooting.
So this is gonna be a sneaky good game. I
see you of age pulling it out only if they
hit their free throws, because that's going to be an
issue that's gonna rear tuggly ahead.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
And I just hope that we come out on the
better half.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
All right, fellas, Let's see you later.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
On Roger, I mean, you know you're talking about with
Kyle Tucker and Alex Bregman. I mean, I just remember
with Tucker, and I've got a text thread with somebody's
of mine called the Dynasty venting texts shout out to
the guys. But I used to just rail against his
check swings. That just just check swings. And I'm just like, dude,

(28:32):
if you're up at this level, cut it loose, like
like you're here for a reason. And it's the old saying, Sean,
and you know this from from playing pro ball that
even if you don't necessarily fully believe you belong, fake
it till you make it, and act like you belong.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Well, check swings don't usually do a lot of good
work for you. Right, It's what a check swing is.
And we've all been there. And whether it's check swing
in that part or and hesitation and hesitation, it's let
it rip and we'll then we'll adjust. But when your
check swing and it's the in between, it's a it's

(29:08):
kind of a passive aggressive person, right that they're saying.
And once he got through that, and he did. And
I can remember sitting on these shows and his first
one hundred hundred and fifty bats, people ready to move him,
we gotta trade him. There was half the one that
we're okay moving him, and some said, now we got
to let him play through it, which is sanity, the

(29:29):
sanity part of one hundred and something at bats And
we're already the guy's a bust, slow down man. And
he went from check swing and hesitation because he's new
in baseball trying to figure out these guys who can
throw it a hundred and then bend you and break,
you know, buckle your knees and then throw a splitter
and a change up that drops off the table. All
those things got adjust and it turned out pretty well

(29:51):
for him. He ain't bad so but I can guarantee
you even through all that, he's not a big, raw
raw guy, and people wanted more energy. His energy was
were exactly where it needed to be. Just get yourself right,
see more pitches, and then do what you do. That
told you Kyle Tucker was always going to have success.
He go through his ups and downs, but was going

(30:11):
to be able to overcome either great success without hovering
around it too much, and failure without wallowing it too much.
And the great ones all do. I'm just telling you
they have that. They have a lot of things in common.
The one thing they definitely have in common is the
ability to deal with failure and success urgently and to
get it out because it ain't one's not going to see.

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If you sit there and focused on oh man, everything's
going good and you're right, and complacency kicks in, you'll
be right back down in the quicksand trying to swim
yourself out of it. Okay. And if you spend all
that time in the in the in quicksand and pouting
about it, you'll never have a chance to get out
and fully let it rip. So the great ones to
me have dealt with success and failure that I've been

(30:55):
around urgently and just as quickly and get both of
them flushed out and focus on what they do. And
that's the stuff you've been doing since you were seven,
the basic stuff that made you good. And I think
cam Smith has that.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well and also too we hear about his command of
the strike zone and what is something that Joe Spotta
talked about all off season, you know, improving the at bats,
the plate approach, all of these different things, you know,
being aggressive when you need to be pulling back, you know,
be seeing more pitches when you need to. And I
mean it seems like not only with him, peretis a
guy who can work a walk. I mean that's something
that this team's looking for this year. Cheat the angle.

(31:31):
When you don't have as much talent coming in, you've
got to be able to find ways to be able
to cheat the angle.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
And that peretis is going to do a great job
of making sure that pitcher throws a lot of pitches. Man,
he just is. They this lineup may be underrated, and
one when we say, well, this one can't remember what
color said, when one body doesn't make that big a difference,
I disagree. One body in baseball isn't going to gig.
Mike Trout can be a perfect example that be an

(31:56):
MVP every year and not sniff a playoff win. But
one body does make a difference in the big scheme,
especially when you got five or six other bodies that
are pretty damn good. And so if we kept to
one body, one body, before you know what, those three
bodies are gone. Losing Bregman and Kyle Tucker is a
tough thing to do. So how urgently can you replace them?

(32:16):
If there's any full replacing that may take them in it,
but hell at least taking the strides too, because most
teams that lose those two type players, we're scrambling around saying,
what in the hell are we going to do? Well,
you get a trade, sign a free agent. Then you
go get a stud who's as dynamic a talent as
anybody and precise as anybody on the team, and hope

(32:39):
that he hits the ground running as a rookie. Let's go,
and I'm all for it, man, And there's been space
cleared because the guy took the glove that was left
on the mound, and I love it well.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Continue the Astros conversation in the seven o'clock hour, but
coming up next a video was shot and a life
was threatened. We will talk about that here as we
close out six o'clock hour here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
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Speaker 3 (34:41):
It gets sent away to this like bougie Northeastern prep
scorting school. Yeah, and just kind of it's growing up
in the seventies, I guess, and had a hell of
a soundtrack and that song.

Speaker 9 (34:51):
Was on it.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Great cut, that is great. That's a friggin underrated cut.
One of the best soundtracks I ever heard was The
Big Check. Did you ever see that movie? No phenomenal movie,
gold Bloom, It's it's you know, love the premiacy. You
can google it. I don't want to bore people with it,
but the soundtrack from The Big Chill is one of

(35:12):
the in my opinion, one of the top ten all
time movie soundtracks ever.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
That'd be one of those, you know, like the Matt
Thomas Show, does the the you know, Top five, Rotten five,
instapol all that kind of stuff. Best movie soundtracks like
Forrest Gump's got to be up there. Remember the Titans
had a pretty good one. Awesome, And I mean there's
there's a few others.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
There's something that we would do. Oh that's ready to
be the Oh that's right. That movie, right, had a
great soundtrack. But Big Chill comes to mind dazing confused
and dazed and confused, And any Sandler movie always says
because he loves music.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
It's gotta say a lot of sticks Sandler movies. Yeah,
he's he's a big sticks guy. Which, by the way,
Dazing Confused I learned this the other day. The final
scene that Ben Stiller is in it as Obanion when
he gets pissed because the kids poured the paint on him,
you know, and embarrassed them, all that kind of stuff,
and he swings his paddle to the ground and hits
the ground. It shattered his ankle, oh, because it actually

(36:05):
it accidentally hit his ankle, and I think it was
Richard Link later that was telling the story of Yeah,
that was the final scene because he shattered his ankle.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
So we didn't need Obanion anywhere we go. So trying
to uh and you know, acting it out and going
full speed, crap happens. What do you think about Stiller
as an actor? Ben Stiller is an actor. I mean,
it's just I know what role it's going to be.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Well, I mean, and I mean he's gonna be in
Happy Gilmore too with your good Buddy, so he's gonna
play that role again. But yeah, I mean he pretty
much either plays like the goofy hard ass that thinks
he's more of a hard ass than he really is,
or he plays like the meek like kind of just
trying to go along to get along your fine. Oh yeah, Yeah. Yeah,

(36:48):
along came PAULI, uh something about Mary.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
That's a great movie. Ye, really good movie. Chris Elliott,
Yeah that movie. Can you sign the Pump for the Kids? Yeah?
That movie. Every time I watch it, you can't turn
it off. It's one of those that comes on you
got to watch it. I actually think she's a pretty
good actress because she makes me it's Cameron deal. She
made a return recently. She was in the with Jamie

(37:12):
Jamie Fox. Yeah, you know, a mom and retired and decided.
How I means I like the fact that she did it.
You know, well they step away and say I'm going
to be a mom for a while and do those
things and get out of this. A lot of respect
for people that can do that where they're not defined
by their career. They're defined by life and that's not
their you know, it can be tough, and you see
it a lot of athletes and people that if they're

(37:34):
not in the public eye or doing it, that that's
their identity. And I like the ones that really is
it's a job and it's a career. Their identity is
what kind of parent they are, what kind of human
they are, And that's to me far more important than
than the job. Identity.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, I'll bring a conversation me and you were having
off area. It's almost like with her, like with some
of the movies that she did, don't you think that
probably people like kind of made that mistake in the
past of oh, that's really who she is, which I'm
not saying she's not. I mean it kind of you know,
her acting, you felt like that's who she is in
real life, sure, because she was good at it. Like, yeah,

(38:07):
sometimes you feel like when you see like Owen Wilson,
you almost feel like, is that how he is?

Speaker 1 (38:15):
That how he is reports he is? Yeah, which but
he's you know, from Dallas. But the cool thing is
that if he's like that, because his his on screen character,
I could hang around right, you know what I'm saying. Now,
there's some that you're like, wow, I hope he's not
like that, and then when you get around him, it's
like he's nothing like that. Yet he sure had me

(38:35):
convinced that he could be right. So and Cameron de Is,
You're exactly right, but uh, she you know, take a
step aside, and the identity is locked in appears to
be the right things as opposed to getting paid to
go on screen. The good ones make you feel like
that because anytime I see de Niro, as much as
I disagree with some of his off the set stuff,
when he's on there, I feel like Robert de Niro's

(38:55):
a mafia member most of the times. Right, what are
you doing? What are you doing? He's gonna go with
the FBI, right, screw the FBI. And that's why when
you see when you see PESHI goes from all those
mafias of beating people over the head. And I can
casino all that too. Being Mel Gibson and Danny Glover's
you know dude running around and acting in the comedy style.

(39:18):
It's like, okay, now I can even though I still
can picture, I feel like that Joe Peschi should be
sitting at the table with the Gambino family right right,
because he did so good and I think that's a
good thing. But his identity, but the funny Joe Peschi
kind of makes me happy too. So now that's what
I'm voting for. If ever a president comes up, we
don't vote for a politician. I'm voting for Joe Pesche.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, the whole store got the flu. Shan that's the problem.
You know when when when when Lurch was up there,
are you mocking me? Yeah, a tuxedo in the gard
after the leather jacket told him show up wearing something
that is cloth.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I love Peschi man, So that whole group be
you right, And Cameron Diaz is one of those. And
I'm always told you music everybody thinks Darius Rutgers name
is Hootie because well, no, that's not it. He actually
has a normal name, so and it's Darius. But uh,
it's just funny. That means you're doing something right, at
least in your character.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
You mean Jelly Rolls Christian name is not Jelly and
then roll Yeah, I don't think that was his name
on his birth till Okay, I don't think that's the
name because you know what, anybody walks in those doors
ain't on a winning streak. You know what I'm saying.
You feel me.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
I was gonna say, I think names sometimes, you know
your parents, You got to be careful with some of
these names.

Speaker 8 (40:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
You might think, oh, it's cute, it's funny. You have
to remember those kids eventually have to go to school.
Oh when they go to school, then it's relentless at
a certain point.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Oh and kids at at seven and eight years old,
they're they're they're they're in it to crush your self
esteem'd the third grade, they're there to build it. It's
it's the sociology experiment. You find out. I think parents
are selfish when they do that. Yeah, I do. Yeah,
and they realize you really want to put you. I
understand your test and your kid to be mentally tough.
But please don't bury him when they're psychologically because you

(41:02):
gave him some name that will it's stupid.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Stop naming him apple, orange, banana, red blue sugar.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, there you go. There you go.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Now, if somebody gives you that name later on life,
like Cam Smith, his cousin nicknamed him sweet Pickle.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Okay, well that's great, but don't name him that on
the birth certificate. There you go. I mean I went
to school with a girl named Candy bar Oh wow.
My English teacher in high school's best friend was Leyah Hooker.
Oh that's tough, now think about that. Well come come
on now, hey, mister and missus Hooker, you got a
lovely young son. Would you like to name it? Or daughter?
Would you like to name her. I don't know, man,
Sandy Stephanie. How about Leya? I mean, are you serious?

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Must have been big Star Wars fans, I guess. But anyway,
seven o'clock hour coming up. I still want you to
hear from Cam Smith. Also Joe Aspota from yesterday and
then mentioned a reporter threatened just for a video.

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ninety Sean. This was making the rounds yesterday as March

(44:25):
Madness is happening, Yukon not going to be a part
of it. No three peat happening this year. But we
all saw the video Dan Hurley, I was about to
call him Danny Ferry. Dan Hurley coming off the floor
and he's yelling out to Baylor coaches players, I hope
they don't mess with you like they messed with us,
cleaning up the language of course. Well that was an

(44:47):
F bomb, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well a couple of them
in there just for just for counting, but a reporter
out of Charlotte from a Charlotte Sports Live shot the video.
Joey Ellis is his name, and he posted the video
made the rounds and the Yukon sid Bobby Mullen confronted

(45:08):
him during the press conference, telling him that he would
quote ruin his life if he didn't take the video down.
Well ever since then, Mullen has since gone to Twitter
and has since deleted it, and he wrote, pr man
Yell's at Reporter News at eleven.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I have a journalism degree.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I know the difference between reporting and seeking out gotcha moments,
my temper flair in the bit of moment, momentary weakness
after a loss. But I think journalists I work with
would regularly vouch for me. Well, he didn't end there.
He then went on to release a statement saying the
lasting image of coach Hurley leaving the court should have
been him taking off the court arm in arm with

(45:48):
his seniors overwhelmed in emotion. Instead, a reporter was in
the area. He should not have been recorded a video
on his cell phone of a private comment made two
members of another coaching st.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
If your question is this right or wrong? Well, who
do where do I lean? You know my affinity for
Danny Hurley love him, the sid is one wrong. It
was not a private moment. It's a public moment. And
as much as I love Danny, I don't care about
the cuss words. I mean, listen, you're in a competitive
moment if you're your arena dropping f bombs, okay, But

(46:25):
if somebody happens to be rolling it, maybe he was
rolling the video to see if Danny was going to
put his on what was going on. Most a lot
of people do. I am not trust me. I am
not of the milk that says you somebody's getting kicked
in the rib cage by four dudes on the street
and then we're running video instead of helping him, dive
your ass in and go save somebody that I am

(46:47):
adamantly against that Oh let's get you to gotcha moment.
I think it's it's absolutely pathetic that people live their
life like that. Just to do that, They just as
soon watched somebody get beat and pillaged and have on
so they get a viral like as opposed to actually
doing something good and going save. And there's plenty of
people like that. In this case, it's a basketball game. Okay,

(47:07):
you got the back to back National champs, frustrated by
refs and the referees did not have their best game.
Danny's dropping a couple f bumps. The SIG's job is
not He doesn't get to dictate what's public and private.
If it's in public, he just doesn't. And you don't
get to tell another journalist to post it and ruin
his life. The truth of the matter is, in a
normal job world, the SID wouldn't have a job because

(47:27):
it tells you. Now, I love that he wants to
protect his head coach. We do, but that ain't it.
He's got a fiery head coach. So what you need
is to understand the fire head coach, and your job
then is to put a wall around and to make
sure it doesn't happen. That's the sid's job. Now, sure,
he's a good guy. I'm sure other people would vouch
for him, and it was one of those moments. But
can't we say the same for the journalist who says, oh,

(47:48):
is this a moment? I was trying to capture, you know,
the emotion coming off the court, and it happened. I
didn't know he was going to drop f bombs. Nobody
planned that, so don't look at me. The SID is
one hundred percent wrong. He's right in detecting his coach
and asking the guy to take it down. But the
approach of I will ruin your life, sorry, buddy, you
don't have the power to root it as somebody's life.
That that's my favorite thing, that this sense of self

(48:10):
righteous I'm going to ruin your like you can't ruin
my life unless I allow you to do. What are
you gonna do? Say something bad about me? Getting friggin' line? Well,
you know what this is.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
I mean he's talking about the journalists, right, yeah, yeah,
But the SID he's in stores Connecticut. You can get
away with this in stores Connecticut when you're somewhere else
with media that you don't work with, that doesn't know you,
and really, frankly, other than covering that one game, they
don't have to have any interaction with you. But the
mindset of that small town state, you know, major state units.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
You're bigger than the world that you can go a
journalist's life because there you don't have that much power. Dude,
you're not John Gotti, all right, that you get to
take him out after you got the dry cleaning done
and then he's sitting in a hole in you bury him,
my life would just stop it. Ooh I heard that
you were a bad journalist. Whoo that you're ruining my life.
Save it. There's a lot of other ways to do it,
and that ain't it so for me, You're one hundred

(49:00):
percent correct about the small town did this feeling and
in truth, if you even to say it to your
local beat reporter during the season, if it was in
your its stores in Connecticut, is ruin your life. No,
you don't have to say anything. If you want to
just freeze the reporter out, you never call on him
in a thing. You're not ruining anybody. What do you

(49:21):
That threat is absolutely the Oh you got that kind
of power? Huh, you got the kind of power to
ruin It's it's like some did let people go on
Twitter say I'm coming after the that you voted against
the liberals, that I'm coming after you voted against the conservatives.
I'm coming in. What are you gonna do with your
Twitter handle? It's really so it's the same thing here.

(49:42):
The sid doesn't have enough weight to ruin some journalist's life.
Oh cause you're not gonna let me interview Danny, Okay,
I think I'm gonna be okay. It's just fine. So
while I don't subscribe to getting your gotcha's, I don't.
It didn't feel gotcha. It just felt like, how did
he know Danny Hurley? As I'm spitting all over myself
in a fired up how do you know Danny was
gonna drop that f bumps? But the way you go

(50:02):
that ain't it If you're the SID. Matter of fact,
you're held to a standard where you're supposed to make
sure that everybody you know, you can send a loud
message without threatening to ruinal life, which he ain't ruining
anybody's life. But the mere fact that he did is
a problem. He's questioning the journalistic integrity of the guy
who did it. Well, what about the journalistic integrity of

(50:23):
the integrity the SID, which your held a bigger standard
because you got the entire school sports department on your watch.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Well, it's awesome, and the SID knows better because most
staging areas football, basketball, they are right there in the tunnels.
Is they have you there because the locker room's right there,
So you're waiting there and as soon as they give
you the thumbs up, hey, he can come in which tournaments,
bowl games, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
You have open locker rooms. I was actually kind of
fired up that Danny was that fired up. And people
are on Danny, you know, people say, oh, he's a
whiner and stuff. Danny loves his team, he loves basketball.
His pops is one of the most legendary high school
basketball coaches of all. Doesn't excuse dropping f bombs or
getting mad the rest of it. It's the heat of moment.
As arena. I'd never have a problem with the guy's

(51:06):
coming off and he's mad and yelling at the ref
or cussing or doing he's in the arena. They don't
come to your office and do the same thing to you,
and you're you and your boss are going at it. Okay,
that's the arena. But when you're dropping f bombs and
somebody can see it run a video, that's just the
you're just gonna have to deal with. Man, I dropped
a few F bombs, I'm sorry and move on or
don't apologe I say it was a passionate moment. My team,

(51:26):
I felt like they had they got they got jobbed. Okay,
and if you get fined by the NZ to A
or the conference get fined. We make such a big
deal the world's and he dropped a few f bombs
and he was defending his team. Would you like him
not to? Probably if you're the school, But in truth
maybe you were pissed. But in the arena, we got
to allow these coaches and players to allow them. I'm
not talking about poor sportsmanship. I'm talking about allow them

(51:48):
to empty the bucket on their competitive It happens. It
happens in all walks of life, and we're supposed to not.
Wouldn't you be more pissed if a coach didn't care. Yeah,
we see postgame press guys are going off. When Rick
Patina went off on his team, you see that speech
of rolling around. Now, but what are you guys doing?
I mean talking about like where's your toughness? Ooh that's bad?

(52:09):
He custed it. Now. Where you cross the line is
when a high school basketball coach yanks on the ponytail
of one of his teammates. Yeah, you can't that guy.
That guy is so far spent. You can't let him
back on a quarter anywhere near a teenager coach in sports,
You just can't. Because that now we've crossed the line.
But a little f bomb here and there, Danny Hurley cousin,
what the sid did was make it worse. He made

(52:31):
it worse. I'm threatening and now they're investigating the program.
What he did is open up a can of worms.
The very thing he said to the report about I'm
going to ruin your life is the very thing the
people that are going to investigate may cost him his job. Yeah,
I mean, you got to make sure on that computer
he didn't send extra nil money to somebody or try
to convince a journalist not to say this about he better.

(52:52):
He better because he opened up a can of worms.
Just let it be, Danny cust We're sorry, but move on.
Who cares? It's sporting event. Who cares?

Speaker 9 (52:59):
Now?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Now it's you're threatening lives and I'm gonna ruin your life. Yeay,
ruin it anybody's life, dude, but your own. If you're
not careful. Sean, you know what his response is gonna be.
My heart was in the right place. Oh of course
it is. And you guys, hey, listen, please forgive me,
and we forgive you. Just don't threaten my Just go
bout your business and leave us alone. We'll do our thing,
you do yours. I don't need to be your friend.
You're an SID. That's called a sports information director, meaning

(53:23):
you protect the university and the journals. You treat the
people that are coming to you respectfully, and your own
You protect what's yours. He did a bad job of both.
He just opened up a bigger can of worms. Now
it's like, oh, you're gonna invite some people to investigate
in your building. When the NC two A, or whoever
it is, this is NC two A, it's bigger than
that decides to walk in. Bit, It's like when Mike
Wallace is sixty minutes knocked on your door to do

(53:43):
an interview. He wasn't there to hand you flowers and
tell you how great you were. He was there to
make you Nixon with the sweating. Yeah, the best thing
you do don't answer your door. Yeah, have him go
talk to somebody else. So SID, he's not ruining anybody's life.
I still love Danny Hurley. I could care less about
the cuss and all the other stuff that surrounds. This
just made it far worse, far worse. It's silly.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Don't think he asked for it, but it's what he
gets in return? All right, Coming up next, Salisbury steakout
a personal moment that I know we can all relate to.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
We'll get to that. Right here. It is a Shawn
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Who's Who's He's the
yse eternal judge who sits on high he has the
final say on all disputes.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
The Salisbury stakeout, Salisbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Indeed, it is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety.
Astros one more exhibition game against the Space Cowboys Opening
Day coming up on Thursday. Rockets back into action tonight,
taking on the Hawks over at Toyota Center.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Six o'clock.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Rockets launch and Sean Miller fishly named the new men's
basketball coach at Texas. All right, Sean, So yesterday here
in the office, I think you were gone already. I
had to stick around a little bit longer, and I'm
here at around lunchtime. And you know, office microwave kitchen,
it's used by everybody. We've all most of us worked

(55:21):
in an office. We know how kind of the dynamics go. Well,
yesterday I walked back in after somebody had reheat fish
and the linger the odor wafting throughout the office immediately. Well,
first off with not only what the smell emanates that

(55:43):
you start to get that feeling in the pit of
your stomach.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
That's not good. But then it's a who done it? Moment?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Like I got to know who who honestly did not
have the press right to know that this is going
to go over like a you know what in church?

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah, well you know what that man, I'm so horny
now thinking about that smell fish in the office. And
you said, Sean, you probably want to let fly. Man.
Whatever whatever does it for you, that's what does it
for you, doesn't have to do it for me. That
it's just for you. That's one that that's that's not
only a kick the person out of the building building
a fence. That is uh that that that's that My

(56:22):
freak flag ain't flying for that, okay, brother? And now
you say, Sean, you know you know you've probably gone.
You hung around and I had to go do Now
you know why I don't hang around stuff like that?

Speaker 5 (56:33):
There.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
You why hang around after I've done my time, by
my showtime, done it ten, do the things you've got
post and get out so you don't have to smell
fresh fish. That is a That is if there's five
things in an office you should not do that should
be on the mandate. You can't reheat fish. Save it
till you get home. I don't know who did it,
and I don't care, but I know this that right

(56:53):
there is immediate Dude, you can't put Yeah, that's what
I want to smell is is second day cod in
my office, and to smell it as it creeps through
the doors. It's likely if you go to like if
you're a cigarette smoker, and the hell even though they
make smoke outside, eventually it's in your cushions. You just
can't get rid of it. And cooks with a lot

(57:16):
of curry, Well, it's in your skin. It is, it's
it's nuts. So I know, man, listen, save that for
your own home. If you want to sleep at night
with that smell of cod rolling down inside your house,
have at it, not at the office where everybody else
has got The collateral damage is too much. And I
know we mean this a little hyperbolic and with a laugh.

(57:37):
But it ain't funny when you're going through it. That
is a If you're thinking at home, I'm taking fish
in my tupperware to reheat at the office, think again,
don't do it. Back a peanut butter and jelly sandwich
and take your ass home and cook it in your
own home.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Or I mean, I'm going to jump to my second
point first to make it. My first is, well, then
you're eating sushi for lunch as far as I'm concerned,
because I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yeah, at least raw sushi like Tune of Ross sushi.
At least I can cover that and have that smull.
It ain't when I walk into hebb and they got
their sushi, you know area, I ain't smelling it all
over the store, right, But why don't you just take
a second day cod that sit out and just slap
it on my face? I mean, it's nasty, Okay, nobody

(58:22):
knows that. You got to You got to recognize the
room man, You got to read it. You'll have to,
and if you haven't, then somebody needs to tap you
on the shoulder and say one of the no nos
in in corporate America, do not heat microwave fish the
next day, you know, stick it on it, just save
a tea, get home, throw it back in a little

(58:44):
bit of tenfoil, stick it on your grill, warm it
up that way and eat it. And plus there's a
grill outside because I don't want the cod inside my
house either. If I'm home, you wake up the next morning,
you just for days it sits in hovers. It's nasty.
So now I don't know who it is, and I
mean it I'm smiling at it, but I I it's
kind of a smile. Can you imagine have to stay

(59:05):
all day and smell it all day? How do you
get a thing done? Yeah, yeah, you got You've got
to read the room.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Then, well, I mean, and that was it was around
lunchtime for me, so I went next to that for
your appetite. Well, I ended up staying next door and
eating it next door when I had initially planned to
bring it back in, but then I was like, I
can't do it. I have to sit in here by
myself and enjoy a nice quietlasp by myself.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Without naming names. Will you know when you see him
or her? Will you know who did it? Do you
know who did it.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
I have a few people on the short list. I
don't know if we're going to do like a purp
walk or like a lineup or anything like that, to
you know, do identify them. I have a good idea, yeah,
do where you look at the person a little different.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Now on the surface it shallow, shallow, how but would
you look at him a little different now?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I might look for the right segue, maybe at like
the next like informal.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Gay come buddies, you're standing around, everybody's laughing, maybe had beer,
a half a beer. You loose it up and you say, hey,
by the way, don't ever cook fish in there again.
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I remember that time you heat up fish and you
just absolutely hot boxed all of us. Oh yeah, that
was awesome. I really enjoyed that because I mean when.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
It comes to stuck to your the inside of your
nose for a week, yeah no, dude, all no, I
mean singing, singing the nose hairs in certain cases, and look,
you know, you get a little bit older.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
It happens, but we can get past it. But pasta
it's okay. You can reheat pasta pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
It's okay. You can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
It comes to go right, you got, you got a
little leftover steak, maybe some fijetas.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Okay, fine, I can live with that fish. Yeah, but
will you walk in the smell of a Mexican food? Yeah,
it smells good, you like it? Yeah, I can. You know,
the smell of gasoline, the smell of there's certain things
you're like, Okay, I can. I can handle that. The
same way with gasoline too. The smell of gasoline is awesome. No,
it's not good for it. Now to cut grass, maybe

(01:00:54):
you have you still like that. I love the smell
of fresh cut grass, but of all, you know, even now,
they're not good. But if everybody's hunched in in the garlic,
then garlic smells great. And the problem is when you
wake up the next or you are guessed at somebody
else does you're like, damn. But the fish thing never works.
It never works for the majority. Nine know, people bake

(01:01:15):
fish and all that, but the majority of the time
fish is, in my opinion, meant to be grilled and
cooked outside. Just so. Now there's some that saw like
tilapia is not going to smell up your house, and
that's a that's the bottom feed or fish. But it
still serves its purpose. But if you're cooking salmon, I know,
if we bake some salm, I just like to stick
it on the grill. So if it does like cod,
that to take it outside and definitely don't bring everybody

(01:01:38):
else in with the collateral damage. If you want to
bask in it at your own crib, have at it,
but you can't reheat. And the thought of reheated fish
in the oven, I mean in a microwave. To me,
it's done anyway. You zapped all the nutrient and you've
dapped it. Anyway, it's not good. Take it home and
just warm it in your oven, warm it in your grill,
but keep the cod or whatever fish because I don't

(01:02:01):
smell it in here, but I will now that you
mentioned it. I ain't going to the kitchen for coffee
or anything today because I have a hunch that it's
still lingering and there's not enough incense you can fly
to get rid of the smell of fish in a building.
Fish is amazing. Anyway, We'll go back, make sure we
talked to our big boss and say, hey, how were
the how much production on March twenty fourth. When you

(01:02:22):
go back and you know they got metrics on everything. Right,
all well it was down. Well I wonder why whoever
the dude or chick was that decided to to put
fish in the microwave, Send them home for a week
and tell them they get a paid vacation. Dock them, okay,
don't let them come back. Fish. If you walk in
a building with fish in a in tinfoil or in
a tumperware, you we got to give you the hephoe.

(01:02:45):
Run them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
You got to run them, you know, you almost have
to have somebody shame them right there, like kind of
shame comedy hour.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Just be right there by the microwave there sat shame you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
You just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Shame them. Yeah, of course, why what are they gonna do?
Take a scholarship. You're saving the rest of the building
from the trouble. Right, It's it's about the greater good,
That's what it's about. It's called you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Caring about people, Dan Bingo and just you caring about people? Well,
you know what trick, Trick loved the kids. Dan loves
the loves the people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
So do I?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Interior exterior, home or business? It's expensive man to own
a business. Or or to run your home. So if
you're selling your home, don't you want the presentation to
look good. It's like when you have the curb appeal
right that you do with flowers or green. Oh man,
I want to make it look good. That's first time
catch eye. So does paint job. If you want to
stay in it and you're keeping it your home or business,

(01:03:33):
just want to dress it up because it's spring colors.
Now I'm going to change the color. I got a
new couch. I wanted to match. Well. They know the
expertise of paint. What's pops and matches with your with
your you know, your green couch and a soft green
paint job or a mauve couch or whatever it might be.
They got the paints picked out for you too. They're local,
they're timely, they're great, They're like ninjas. They came in,

(01:03:56):
do your job and get out. It's sort of pro
painters sort of with the Sea. They're the official pain
partner of the Houston Astros. Sortopro dot com for your
free estimate, and each and every sort of pro business
is individually owned and operated, which is nice. It's got
that boutique feel where they care they know who you
are without it making feel like they're so big and
the big conglomerate that they come in. They don't remember

(01:04:16):
your house from the next one, or your business. They've
done mine, and I was I'll say this regularly, I
was a customer first. How easy is it to sell
somebody when you're a customer first? Because you know the
great work they do Todale and cert of Pro there
is no better. I love the DIY, but I also
know that my diin isn't as good as their professional

(01:04:37):
paint job in terror xterior. There's no better again, the
official painting partner of those Houston Astros. It's sort of
pro painters, sort of what they see, sort of pro painters.
That's painting Happy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
We're voted for the Sewn Salisbury show continues.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
All right, Cam Smith has been a topic of conversation.
We'll hear from him here in just second. Rob wants
to wait in here talks with Cam Smith. Rob, what's
going on?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Hey, good morning guys. Man.

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
You guys have been on a roll this morning. But
I'll get right to it with Cam Smith and the
whole topic about bringing him up, starting to uh starting
him out on opening day roster. You know, aside from
the fact that his skill set and what we've seen
in spring training dictates that he got to be here,
there's an entiremental aspect to him being a part of

(01:05:27):
this club at this point in his career, because if
your if your skill set dictates it, you don't want
to do anything to hold that player back.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
You send him down.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
He's already got the mindset of he knows where he's
going and where he's going to end up, and he's
gonna get comfortable in Triple A, and that's not what
you want. If he stays up with the club, then
he has the opportunity to continue to have to push
himself because he's reached the level now where the only
place you can go from here is back down. If

(01:05:58):
he knows he's gonna get here one way or the other,
then he's just gonna let it happen. But he's gonna
work harder to stay on the club now to avoid
getting sent back down, then going back down and just
waiting for them to make that call and make that
call up. And I say that to say this also
when he joins the big league club, you know, a
players hang out with a players B players hang out

(01:06:20):
with B players. He needs to be with the al Tuves,
the your Don's, the Christian Walkers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
The pain is the guys that have been up here,
that have made it and that have stuck with it,
and that have developed a routine. Because that routine will
change from the miners at each level all the way
up to the big league clubs, and he's not gonna
learn that routine, that mental health, that physical health that
is required to stay on a big league club. So
in a lot of everything that's been discussed, guys, bring

(01:06:48):
him up, get him up, and let's get him going.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Guys, that's all I got. You know what, play up.
I've always a play up and sometimes playing over your
head in over your head's a good thing if you're
mentally tough enough to say you know what, and being
around pros who have gone about there, but who doesn't
want to hang around out to the every day he
knows how to do it. A guy in the minor
leagues is still trying to learn how to do it.

(01:07:12):
And that doesn't mean that it's not you don't play
great baseball and triple A, but play up and be
around watching how they go about their routine, and the
truth of the matter is he may not be playing
in over his head. And what a young guy like this,
How many times have you heard this before in sports?

(01:07:32):
Some dude walks in. That's new Atlanta went through this.
You were there, Ronald Acuna walked into the building. Everybody's
energy went different when he when he first came to it.
That's what I'm That's what I mean. It takes the
veteran who's cagy and been around tendency to I've arrived.

(01:07:52):
I'm not saying they say, but there's that tendency at
doing it a decade. I've been here, and so you
can get comfortable, and comfortable is one thing. If it's comfortable, relaxed,
making you play better. Comfortable can place it ain't good.
And what happens when a young guy like that Waltz
is into the clubhouse or Waltz is into an NFL
locker room. And it happened in Washington with Jayden Naniolds.

(01:08:13):
It actually happened here with Will Smith and c. J. Stroud.
The young the veterans take a look around, said we
needed that infusion of energy. It's like when you're an old,
stodgy sales staff. It had some big corporate fourth and
Fortune five thousand, and all of a sudden, one new salesperson,
or you change CEOs or you change some and they

(01:08:33):
walk in in that first meeting, the very first meeting.
You walk in and people are looking around like the
same meetings, no, and then somebody says something outside the
box thinking and it's like, this is different. I'll tell
you a quick example I chose. And I'm not just
not in comparison, but that feeling of being that guy
walking in and it has nothing to do with sports.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Every off season I did something different American Express Financial,
Honeywell so in Minnesota offseason because I wanted to know
what I didn't want to do in my career with Olver,
So I went and Manny Jackson, who was the owner
of the Harlem Globe Trotters, was at that point one
of the highest ranking African American CEOs and as a
business mentor to me at Honeywell, and Manny hired me

(01:09:18):
and put me in the ops department immediately with the
boss of the ops immediately at Honeywell because that's it's
in Minnesota and there's a bunch of Fortune five hundred
companies there. So I walked off a football field and
went to work for Honeywell. Within a week, I was
on their corporate plane flying back with a head of
operations to a meeting in Seattle. And dude, I'm nervous

(01:09:39):
as hell. I said, what am I supposed to do?
And we talked. He says, you go in there, we
need some fresh Dude, how much did I know about HVAC? Okay,
you go in heating, ventilation, air conditioning, just what I study.
When you're going and go through the interview process. I
walk in. He said, if you see something you like,
you say it or you want change. And I actually
just kind of from a just it's an outsiders thinking

(01:10:02):
and I was in my twenties and I brought it up.
And while it may not have been conventional. While the flight,
Homie said we needed that, and it was like I
didn't really know what the hell I was doing. Just
it was just for me. It was a novel concept
to be an outside thinker, but it for his point
of view. Now, it's not going to change Honeywell. But
in that meeting there it was like whoa, whoa, whoa,

(01:10:22):
We're bringing in new ideas, it's the same thing here,
and so I felt that I was listening, I was
scared to death, more scared than I was dropping back
and throwing a ball because that was my comfort zone.
This was out of my comfort zone. But while you're
infusing energy and then we're like, oh man, that's not
a bad idea, or there's a different energy in here.
It's the same thing here. He's going and I'm sure

(01:10:42):
cam Smith's confident, but there's a part of him that's
questioning if we all do? Do I belong here? This
is new. You hang around out tu Vay Pain has
been through it. You sit there and watch Jordan Alvarez
all these comparisons, and you're around it. This is how
you get better, you play up, and this is what
they're doing with him. Imposter syndrome is real. Something you
mentioned though about culture. Energy can add and you infused

(01:11:04):
energy can add something different to a group of guys
that have been there. And the veterans will respect it too.
They'll say, oh, this is what Stroud's bringing to the table. Okay,
I got to match that energy and you do or
you get left behind. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Well, it's also too it's unlocking. Potentially you didn't even
know that you had. Maybe somebody saw it in you,
and that's kind of something that can come along with
just being able to gain that experience and grow. But
something you mentioned about culture special players, I do want
to go that route. Plus camp Smith does make the
case for himself. We'll get into that here. Sewn Salisbury Show,

(01:11:39):
this is the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Sean Salisbury Show. Salisbury Show. That's goodiful.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I mean, I saw how things completely changed, where finally
somebody in the building because at the beginning they tried
to micromage them, they tried to tell them, oh, you know,
you wear your hat this way, you do it this way,
all these different things that somebody finally had a wizened
voice in that building to say stop.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Stop. That guy's special.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
And it's not like what he's doing is necessarily, you know,
spitting in the face of what this team stands for.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Still abiding by the rules. You just hat's a little
more crooked than the next guy. That's it, or your
tie is not quite as pushed up to the top,
maybe a little looser than the stiff suit that tells
you you have to wear the tie like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
But it's also I mean We saw the culture shift
because in certain cases you don't even have a culture
in the building. The Astros, as much as I love them,
for most of their life, jose Al Tuve was here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Then you had George Springer come along. You had Carlos
Korea come along. You had a guy who was a
little bit more brash at the beginning. He's cooled off
a little bit, but Alex Bregman come along and being
able to put that group together of having enough of
the brash, but also the guys who maybe you know,
they went about their work in silence. Boom, your culture
was created, your winning world series. You're actually changing things

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where people can look at it and say, those guys,
they were the difference. They were the ones who turned
this thing around. We see it over at Towieta Center.
He brings over Fred van Vliet, brings over Dylan Brooks,
signaling to everyone else, Hey, yeah, we're adding some veterans
in here, but we're adding guys that they're gonna get
after you, right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
And then you take that infusion of the young players
and you get a good mix. Challenge. When I say
challenge the system, that means you question authority, I don't
mean that Challenging the system means that you're pushing people,
in my opinion, to a new level. And that's what
great players and great leaders do without having to force it.

Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
You just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
It's a natural thing. And with Cam Smith, well didn't
Bregman and Korea infuse a feeling of this is different now? Okay,
so who's next? Who's listen? You just get at some
point in time attrition gets you, or not paying because
they just don't want that. To have a corporate structure

(01:13:50):
that doesn't want to pay four hundred million to a player,
I get it, But who's next? What are we waiting on?
This team is tough enough over the last eight years
to get a sh shot for a minor league player
to break into the major leagues and be an everyday
player because the veterans have been so good. You lose
one here, lose one there, one goes because he wants
more money, and another, and before you know it, there's

(01:14:10):
a spot open. And then you bring veterans and leave
competition and that young player doesn't miss a beat. He
just hits the ground running. I don't know why we
got a pigeonhole everybody into one thing that this is
how it's done. If that's the If that's the case
in organization, I'm gonna tell you what this is how
it's done.

Speaker 8 (01:14:32):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
New England's a perfect example and Brady and Belichick and
Brady is as admitted as much yesterday I think it
was on a podcaster or recently that after twenty years
it got little tension. He was still thinking championships. They
were dismantling an organization going in a different direction. Brady
got out and win won another one in Tampa because
Bruce arians was thinking different and so was Tom Brady.

(01:14:53):
It doesn't mean don't like each other. Sometimes twenty years
it's a long time. It's a long time, I mean,
and it's the same thing. So what about New England Patriots. Well,
the New England Patriots unfortunately got to a point where
it got stale. They let their best player ever get away,
and the best player that's ever put on a uniform
get away, and then there's the gap, and then the

(01:15:13):
gap gets wider, and now Mike Rabel's got to go
in and fix it. It's not on Bill building. It
just a different direction to the organization. And now it's
amazing those Patriot Ways weren't working the same way they
did for twenty years. I love their ways in but
when that number twelve's out of the building and then
the next guy's out of the building and you're not
replacing him with that next infusion of youth or a
great player, and maybe Drake may will be, but Tom's

(01:15:36):
been out of the league now, so you have to
find who the next guy is. And leadership has no
age on it. Man, dynamic player has no age on it.
And at times, if you want to, if you want
to disrupt where they're going, because I think they're a
year or two away from veterans still moving where you're like, okay,

(01:15:57):
we got to replenish and retool, So why not now
if the guy's capable of handling it, And so far
there's nothing that tells you he's not a major league player. Nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
And not to say that Cam Smith needed to make
the case for himself to make this team, but as
I mentioned, he was in the dugout. Yes say, with
the media having a chance when asked about that very thing,
what would you say to the front office about why
you should be on the opening day twenty six I
would just.

Speaker 10 (01:16:22):
Say I'm confident and I'm ready.

Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
That's really all I can say, and not to make
the decision, but I feel personally that I am ready.

Speaker 10 (01:16:28):
But at the end of the day, whatever happens.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Is the right choice. And guess what, he's confident and
he's ready, and it isn't just his verbiage. His performance.
As a matter of fact, his performance is far louder
than him saying he's confident, he's ready that I think
that you're doing the rest of the team, in my opinion,

(01:16:50):
an early season to service by not having him up there.
You're saying you want a job, but we're still sending
you down to go face the minor league pitching. You've
dominated come up here and do the same thing. If
you're a quick study man and you know how to adjust,
which apparently we'll go find out pretty quick. I don't.
The guy hasn't. He's not talked his way into a job.

(01:17:11):
He's earned it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Confidence has seen much more than it's heard, I think,
And even though obviously it's an audio meeting, the successful
ones are Yeah, that's what I mean. But that's one
of those though, is for everything that we've heard and
that you know, the little that most of us have
seen of him that kind of matched it right there,
like where it was just he calmly said it, just said, hey, look,
what else can I say? I'm ready to go, I'm
ready to play. What about him says minor league player?

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Right now? Aside from the fact that he's young. What
about him says that guy's a minor that he needs
schooling in doubl or Triple A. I'm struggling to find
the reason for that to be the case, because I mean,
I just I think that argument is fleeting. If I
put a checklist up instead of the pros and the
cons on Triple A in Major League Baseball? What side
I remember Brent Musburger when they put the check marks

(01:17:56):
up over the When do you do the tail of
the tape? Yeah? Okay, so triple A, the check mark
for advantage to triple A, check mark for advantage of
Major League Baseball, the team, everything involved. Where do you
think the check mark is going to dominate right today?
From what you've seen? Oh, the pros for him to
be here? Okay, Yeah, then then I can always adjust down.

(01:18:17):
This dude's made you adjust up, and it's pretty obvious.
It definitely is and it seems like that's the case.
You got all nine innings last night against the Space Cowboys.
Philip and Tony see you guys right there, work you
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Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
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Speaker 10 (01:19:03):
To USC Trouphs, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Six o'clock Rockets launch pad right here, and Sean Miller
officially named new men's basketball coach at Texas. I know
that some of you want to get in on the
camp Smith conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
We can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Someone three two, one two five seven ninety. Let's hit
up Tony and Engleton. Who wants to wait in here? Tony,
what's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:19:36):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:19:36):
Camp Smith?

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
I think he's made the ball club, y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:19:39):
And and there's a there's a concern about, you know,
him being a free agent, losing a year. Whatever. Look
their their history. If you can play, they did it
with Bregman, they did it with Fromberg. They go ahead
and just buy out those arbitration years and sign them
to an extension. So I'm not worried about that. This

(01:20:00):
is gonna be a this is a transition season. We're
gonna have to really depend on our pitching. Well, We've
always been a pitching rich organization, but these young pitchers
are gonna have to carry us Man and and and
pitch Longer. I think pitch Longer should try to make
it to the sixth I'm concerned about the back end
of our bullpen. Not not hater, but uh, you know,

(01:20:22):
you can step into the eighth spot, into the eighth
inning spot with the starters need to go longer. Camp
Smith got to make this ball club. But the Altwove experiment,
I don't know how long. I mean, I just feel
sometimes I feel sorry for my turn left field. But
he's doing it for the team. He's doing it to win,
So my hat off to him. He's got to He's

(01:20:44):
got about one hundred and fifty hits a year for
the next six years to get to three thousand. I
want to see him get three thousand in an Astros uniform.
I want to see him retire here. So whatever we
have to do to keep him in the lineup, we
got to do it, guys. But I'm excited about this
season and I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Wait for it to start. I appreciate the call, Tony,
you know what I want. We talk about specialization, like bullpen.
We got fifth inning, we got a middle relief for
a sixth inning guy, a seventh inning guy, eighth in guy.
I'm with Tony. I've constantly said this. The expectations should be,
you're a specialist as a starting pitcher, get me the
six innings. Well, I'm greedy enough. Give me to seven

(01:21:23):
and we'll deal with the rest of it. Give me
we can bypass, and I know guys got to get work.
But the goal shouldn't be five innings. I'm just sorry.
It shouldn't that that to me. And we have such specialization,
but why can't we tell our starting pitchers here's our
new specialization. Here. We're going to lengthen you our goal.
And I'm sure they tell you their goals to get
to six incs. I I to me, it's it's not

(01:21:44):
a it's not enough to pitch five innings in Major
League Baseball, it's just not enough, especially now, if you've
pitched five innings, it's one hundred and thirty pitches. Like,
I get it, nobody's going one hundred and thirty pitches,
but you get my point hyperbolic. But if you're going good,
and you're eighty five pitches in, and you you're up
four to one in the fifth inning, and you're a
second year player, you're Spencer Arraghetty or whatever year it

(01:22:04):
is for him, I don't need to go get I
don't need to go get the sixth inning guy just
because he's a sixth inning specialist. He can stay over
there and sit his ass down for a while. If
my guy's going good, why do I have to automatically help?
And I'll tell you this, be honest with you. What
if all of a sudden, your seventh inning guy is

(01:22:27):
having one of those days where he is just light,
he's pumping it at ninety nine I'm not even talking
about here anywhere, and he goes bingo banngo bongo and
strikes out the side. Do we have to go to
a bred you in the eighth inning? Is that an automatic?
Do you have to, and he's thrown nine pitches, he
would strike, strikes, strike, and I mowed him down. Great,
we'll see it. I understand you don't want to do

(01:22:48):
that three or four times row. But every now and
then it's not just a sheet in your hand that says, well,
the metrics say we got to throw the eighth inning guy.
If this guy's going good and it's a game against
a rival and you need to win, the specialation we
overdo specialize in this throwing strikes and getting their ass out.
Same with starting pitching. It's not specialization in my mind.

(01:23:08):
If you can only get to five innings, to me,
you're an average starting pitcher. If that's your go average
starting pitcher. But Sean, what about the third time through
the order? What about the pitch counts?

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Yeah, Well, like I said, if you're five innings and
you've got one hundred and twenty pitches, I understand getting
you out. If you just came off use the l
surgery at Lansma Colors, you're not throwing one hundred and
fifteen pitches. If you get your first start in May,
I get it. That's common sense. But there's also a
sense of common sense where you say, you know what,

(01:23:39):
he's five innings in and he's throwing eighty four pitches.
His velocity's the same, his location's really nice. I don't
need the six inning guy. You're gonna go. And it's
not fromber or Hunter Brown. It's somebody who's new Wesnsk.
He's anybody. I don't care who it is. Spencer Arraghetty. Well, yeah,
it's early in the season. And if he goes and
walks the first batter, get his ass out. I've just

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never Specialization doesn't just require a pinch hitter. Specialization isn't
just well he specializes in he's a seventh inning guy. Well,
guess what if my sixth thinning guy just went one, two,
three on nine pitches three, guess what, you're the seventh
inning guy today. Two seventh inning guy will sit back
and resten. Maybe the seventh inning guy that day is
my eighth inning guy. Maybe he's not. I don't always

(01:24:24):
have to Well we get it there. If you're going good,
I don't the ball ain't heavy. And it's also, I
mean this early in the season, rolls are carved out.
I mean, Steven Okertz here for a reason, Steven Okert
was a guy that was kind of hanging on the fence.
Am I gonna make this club? Am I not? And
then he went out there and had a hell of
a spring. What a novel concept?

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
You mean?

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
He earned it well?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
I mean, and then you know, there was a guy
walking through the clubhouse last year when me and Ross
were there in West Palm Beach, and I'm like, who's
this guy with the South African flag on his glove.
Then you come to find out, Oh it's Taylor Scott.
Oh he could throw strikes. Oh he can get people
out pretty good, isn't he.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Yeah, even though now even as good as he was,
there's gonna be more than one body using the seventh
row in the in the setup to get to eight
and get to nine, right, I mean, he's he's as
this Steve Sparks had mentioned, you would think he's the
guy going in the lead dog, But what if you

(01:25:17):
have somebody else that they trust. It's I mean, it's
a situational feel. I just you don't have the card
in your hand. Doesn't always have to say I'm going
to the seventh inning guy. The guy in the sixth
just struck out the side on nine pitches. I suggest
he can give me five more pitches at least to
get me into this. I know people that start him
fresh and in anying. I just don't know when we
came up with all these unwritten specialization rules. They just

(01:25:40):
came out of nowhere. All not the cutoff. He's at
ninety five pitches, you can't well, he's pumping it at
ninety nine. Dude, he's stolen ninety nine. He's in the
sixth inning and he's got a two hitter, and where
he this is his eighth start of the season. Oh,
I have to get to a braid you. What if
a bray you that day just doesn't have his stuff
and I left it on the table. That's part of

(01:26:01):
the risk you take. It ain't all about analytics and
it's not all about feel. You got to mix them
both in. But we get so caught up in well,
this is the structure. We've already talked about about it.
When to bring a player up, the structure is to
let the young guy stay down and learn. This young
guy is gonna waste his time playing in triple A.
Cam Smith is a pro play is a major leaguer.

(01:26:21):
If it done work, he'll go down, give him a
couple weeks to get back and back up. He's built
different man. He'll struggle and he'll hit well. But to me,
I just don't get why we're so pigeon all the
I'm not Eve talking about the ass and I'm talking
about society. Just everything's got to be. This is the
way we do things. Keep doing it that way, and
eventually you'll find yourself on the outside looking in. Well.
I mean it's you know, the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Good and the bad in terms of the bullpen, and
we'll get to the camp Smith's side in the second.
But the good is twenty twenty two, where it's on
a string for you. You throw Rafael Montero out there,
he gets out, You throw Brian to bring you out there.
Same deal, Ryan Presley, absolutely, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Perfect storm that year. They did everything. I mean, then
the pitching staff carried this team on their back.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
And you're speaking to Cam Smith and he's up here,
he's on the bubble, all of these different types of things.
Joe Aspota also speaking in the dugout yesterday, talking about
guys like Smith and having them up here playing at
dyk In Park right now, the benefits of what he
wants to see from that experience.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
I'm just looking at how they walked in.

Speaker 8 (01:27:20):
Just the how they walked under these lights, how they
answer some of you guys questions. All that stuff matters,
you know, So I really want to see how they
performed in his bright lights. I'm not his play's not
going to be packed, but it matters how they go
about their preparation during during this, during these elements.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
That kind of reminds me of Remember Dana Brown when
they introduced Joe A. Spotta as the manager and he
said I was interviewing him when I wasn't even interviewing him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
That's what that is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
That's that's I'm I'm just seeing without the spoken word.
How do you handle this? That that tells me all
I need to know, And.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
It's handle everything you struck out and you took the
golden sombrero. How do you handle when they ask you
is their excuses made? It's it's the overall package.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
You're putting together your plan. You're the player. We people
put together marketing plans for for fortune five thousand, kind
of fortune five hundred companies you put this is a
plan too. It's not just can you swing the bet.
How do you handle the teammates? How do you handle adversity?
Handle handle success? How do you handle a postgame interview?
What do you do afterwards? What are you doing on
your free time? Are you doing the lonely work? It's

(01:28:24):
one big package and they've got a lot invested in
the guy because they expect great things. Not a lot
of money yet, but a lot of invested in this
guy because he's a great talent. But that goes for
anybody there. For me is and and Joe Spot said
that you should be that's part of being appro That's
the way I look at it. Are you a pro?
A pro just doesn't mean can you drive the baseball?

(01:28:44):
Can you get to a play in the gap? A
pro means everything? And quite frankly, you're held when you're
that talented to a different standard. You just are. And
whether you like it or not, it's a Your blessing
is also your curse. The blessing is who this guy's freak?
The curse is whoa this guy's a freak? Well, now
you got to live up to it. And there's this

(01:29:06):
special skill set guy mentally, physically, emotionally, all that welcomes
It doesn't run from it, stares right in the face
of oh yeah, man, these last three games, my plate
awareness has been awful, and then the fourth game fixes it.
That's what the great ones do. And great ones don't
mean that you have to be thirty to be great.
You can be twenty two and be great. You can
be twenty one and be great. You just can. So

(01:29:27):
it's the whole package. Joe Spot is talking about. How
do you handle all of it? And it's real simple.
Just because you get paid does not make you a pro.
A pro that's not how you judge him. The pro
is all the stuff Joe Spot has said. I want
to see how he handles it, and my gut tells
me the kid's gonna that you're not even gonna have

(01:29:48):
to address how he handles it, because he'll do just fine,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
How you handle one thing is how you handle everything,
as the old saying goes, and you know that's what
they're trying to figure out over there at dyke In Park.
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(01:32:07):
I mean, we talked about it. Schalk pretty much ruled
the tournament this year.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
The lowest seed and you push back on it when
I mentioned it number ten Arkansas and you were like, oh,
hold on, now, Calipari, that's that's not a ten seed.
Kind of like what Kelvin Sampson said about Gonzaga. He
was like, that's not an eight seed. That's one of
the best teams in the country right there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
And the way they're playing now, Cow's team went through
be talking about cam Smith going how do you handle
it when it hits if the adversity is Cala Parties
team And he even said it in on court interview
I think was a pregame saying, listen, man, they these
guys have been they have learned a lot because they've
been through it this year. And the whole key to
the NC to a tournam aside from being talented and

(01:32:47):
playing good, is peaking at the right time. And get
Zaga started to until they ran into this group here
and Cow's team is too. And I'll tell you what's dangerous.
A ten seed does not a tend seed that had
they been playing in a different common, it would not
be a ten seed. And you and I both know it.
They're playing in the SEC. But what happens is the
believability when they start to get to a point, then

(01:33:08):
they start to look at each other and say, well,
we've been through adversity, so a loss doesn't hurt now,
single elimination loss does you go home. But then you
start to think, you know what, you actually start to
believe maybe even you're better than you are. So what
happens is you elevate your game and you get hot Listen.
Going into the last two years pre season, while they
were ranked high, the most talented team in the country
was not Yukon. They were not. They played the best

(01:33:30):
at the right time, and they got every single person
knew their role and worked it. I believe you got
a I'm a big believer in established role. Know what
your role is and if you don't identify that, it's
a problem. And Danny did a great job of it.
They weren't the most talented team in America. They played
the best and then they boat raced every when it

(01:33:51):
came to the tournament. Last year they just curb stopped
everybody in their way. But I am the col and
the rest of them. Maybe it's because sec he's not
at his the NC two as that are the is
the tournament the same? I know where you're going with
this and all you can get there, But because well
SEC is a Footno, the SEC basketball season is better

(01:34:13):
than their SEC football season period right now it is.
And so yeah, Cal's not a ten seed. They're a
ten seed because of the conference they played in and
they went through their early struggles. Right now, you think
there's anybody says, yeah, we're playing a ten seed. Also,
we got to do is play normal basketball beat them.
I would suggest that you're probably you need to change

(01:34:34):
your way of thinking if that was the case. And uh,
you just want to get them and get them before
they get rolling in a game where they believe they're
going to hang around. That's a team. You let them
hang around late in the game. It's like it is
on any sport. Let the team that's I don't want
to say inferior talent because Cal always has talented players,
but they're not a blue blood program. It said. Nolan
Richards is not the coach there right now. It's now

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Cal who's been at blue blood program. Right so you're
trying to can vince the kids that they do belong
and he's turning them loose and they're playing great basketball
at the right time. Now, I don't think they're winning
the NC two A Championship. I don't think they'll get
in the final four. But I got news for you
going there thinking you're playing a TENN seed, you will
get beat by them.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
I mean, how many times have we seen like a
tom Izzo Michigan State team that's a seven and they
make a run all the way to the final four
and you're just kind of like, where did this come from?

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Who are you guys? And well, and you know what,
well coached. They do everything well, even if they don't
do one thing spectacular, and that was Yukon the last
two years. It's Michigan State every frigging year. And we
get caught up in that they're physical and plotters. We
talked about they're pretty damn athletic team too now, but

(01:35:40):
it's you know what, travels and the one thing that
Calipari does not get enough credit for, and he should
and he should have gotten more credit for. To Kentucky
coaches know, and we'll get we'll get my couple my
guys on here, and hopefully we'll get him on Frank
Martin for instance. U mess, get Frank on here and
ask him what kind of is just Kalen know how

(01:36:00):
to coach defense. Watch what they say, underrated. We get
all the All one and dons and talented, and you
know these guys are lottery picks and we got six
first rounders. The sixth man's getting drafted twentieth in the
NBA at Kentucky. Underrated defensive coach, and he knows if
his team as a ten seed, is going to roll
much further in this tournament, that they're going to have

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to do a lot of it. You got to put
the ball in the basket. That's obvious. But defensively you'll
be in everyone. That's why Houston's and Michigan States and
those teams are going to hang around because they defend
you for ninety plus feet every friggin game, and then
you get stops at the right time.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
With chalk holding. In the NCAA tournament, a lot of
people wondering if the madness is gone. If you know
the time of the Cinderella, it's no longer because of
the transfer portal, name, image, and likeness. They just can't
keep up. And is this a precursor of what's to
come in college basket? I think it is a big
reason for the transfer portal. I think the transfer portal

(01:36:59):
is a big reason why you're not seen as many upsets.
I think that's exactly the reason. I mean, not the
only reason. But now you get veterans, guys that you know,
he transferred in and he's a sophomore, a little more experience,
experienced teams, and don't tell me go these coach sday
the same thing. Something I've asked the question is experience
overrated or underrated in a championship run. And I've yet

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to have one person tell me in any sport that
it's underrated. I mean it's overrated at any point in
time because just have the familiarity with being there and
getting it takes away that one extra distraction. So I
am it's not the only reason, but I am one
hundred percent convinced that transfer portal can crush a team,

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and that transfer portal getting a veteran. Look what it
did for the who was in the National championship in
football this year, Ohio States and Notre Dame who are
the quarterbacks both transfer quarterbacks Will Howard and Riley Wentz
Kansas State and Duke.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Are either one of them first round draft picks. No
hold down on the fort smart for them. And listen,
Will Howard played pretty much mistake free in the postseason. Correct, Yeah,
there's no difference in basketball. See when Duke and Grant
Hill were playing and Christian later, those guys played their
whole time, they stayed the whole time, and so that
experience did matter. Even though a young talented guy comes in,

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they're still finding their way. How many national championships did
cal win at Kentucky with one? And Doune? I think
he won? What one? L Anthony Towns? Yeah, say those
two names again, anthonyas Karl Anthony Towns among others. Right,
so guys that were making serious money in the league,
like the Freak Show guys. Right, So it's not always
just the talent. There's some experience that goes with it. Now,
I do believe that the one that that, the one

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and done is important because those guys are so gifted.
But I do believe the influx of coming around and
getting a trans look at this team here, who are
give me two offensive players on this team that are
lights out? Milo's using him in l J cryer? Did
they were they? Did they come here out of high school?
No transfers? Bing go, I rest my case. And you

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know the other part of the conversation, I hate the
transfer portal that we should you should not be allowed
to transfer to any school. Well, the tournament's going on.
It's a it's a it's blasphemous and it's a friggin
embarrassment that you're allowed to do that. And you gotta
you win a game, and you're the Vanderbilt player had
one foot out the door. He knew he was leaving
is as much as McNee State was a fun story

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and they weren't gonna go on and win. When you're
a head coach who I love will we I think
he's a great coach. But when he has to, when
he when he's already told us, when the tournament starts,
no matter what happens here, he gets the job that
these guys are coming with me. If you're one of
those guys, including the manager, and you're saying, well, if
you can build in an excuse it if we lose,

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we're McNee State. We're not supposed to. We're a storybook.
If we keep winning, fine, we're on house money. We're
going to North Carolina State to play in Raleigh, Durham
and now we're a big boy. If that's already built in.
How McNee state play in their life, they did not
play well. Oh and you're gonna tell me it's just
because they got dominated by the other team, or that
they got dominated by the other team. But also there's

(01:40:08):
that easy way out because no big deal, I'm going
to get paid more and I'm going to North Carolina State.
Having the transfer portal open during the NC two A
tournament for any team to get in benaged is an
absolute embarrassment to the NC two A, to the players,
and screwplayer empowerment. You can wait, you can wait, and
if you've transferred three times, I don't want it my school,

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you're not coming back. And what cal said it he goes, well,
if they want to test the transfer portal and come
back to me. Once you've tested the portal, you don't
get to be a razorback anymore. And I'm with him
one hundred friggin percent. Dabo Sweeney has that philosophy. His
saying goes the door only swings out, doesn't swing back
in That sure as hell doesn't. And I don't care
what your plight is, you decide to try now if

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you're transferring to your grandmother. You get my point there,
I'm going to the outline. I want to be there.
And then all of a sudden she gets healthy and
everything's fine. And of course, young man, you're coming that.
That's the reason those are few and far between. If
you're transferring, and I'm the same way, I don't care.
If you're a five star super stud you're replaceable. There's
another one. There always is. But if that's going to go,

(01:41:13):
I'm not changing everything I do about my program to
conform to what you want. You walk out that door
and you're testing the waters to go get money and
somewhere else. That door doesn't see it doesn't swing back in.
You're done. You are, You've already checked out. And for
me to send that message to the rest of the
guys who didn't, now, I'll sacrifice win in a national title.
You don't get to come back and play this. You

(01:41:34):
don't get to play us like a fiddle. I would
not do it. You should not allow the transfer portal
to be open during the tournament. You just shouldn't. We'll
continue this conversation. Also, is you have h already had.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
A significant disadvantage on Friday night, we'll talk about that here.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
We're for the Shawn Salisbury Show continued Coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
I mean that's kind of been you know, the argument
that's been thrown out there. Well, coaches can leave it
any time. Why can't these guys, Well they can't. They can,
but guess what. Okay then I'm I'm okay. But we
treat coaches like grown adults. They're held to a higher standard, right,
because they are. If you do something wrong, we'll fire
Chris Beard, Right, they've done that before. Yeah, and that
guy wherever he goes, he's got all misplay like they're

(01:42:20):
a national champion. Okay, so they're they're held to that accountability.
If they break a school rule or what have you,
well they're.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Allowed to go. What are we doing to these kids, Well,
you're not doing You're getting paid three million dollars where
you've kind of crossed this threshold. You're not kid anymore.
Sorry to tell you, just not now. All right? If
I want Bill self to coach, what do you gotta do?
Pony up the money, not just the money to pay,
but what else you gotta do? If he's got two

(01:42:47):
years left on his content, got two years buy you
gotta buy him out? Yeah. Oh, if I want Kirby Smart,
I gotta pay about ten, twelve, fifteen extra million dollars
twenty depending on who it is. It's gonna be a
it's gonna be a sizable wire transfer. I'm listen. Great
if that's your argument, And that's the argument of well,
the coaches get to do it, they've been doing it forever. Well,
they're also forty or fifty or thirty five and they've

(01:43:08):
been doing a long time. The guy has a pee
to drop a success walking out of high school on
a college campus. You don't get to be treated just
like the coach does. Sorry, the rules aren't set the
same for everybody. Do I think kids should get paid? Yes,
you sell a million jerseys, Johnny Manziel should have made
a lot of money. I have no problem hand in
hand cash. I do have a problem with it. But name,
image and likeness was set up. Name image and likeness.

(01:43:29):
You go there, here's your image. We want to use
it on a board across Hollywood. You're at Southern cal
You're got to watch and you think that. And by
the way, because some high high school or college kid
wears a watch, I'm not going to buy the watch
because of him. So if you're marketing on that, then
know your personnel that neither here nor there, because I
don't know many college kids that are eating ramen soup

(01:43:52):
that can afford a twenty five thousand dollars Rolex. But
that's neither here or no other. Maybe the adult will
because he liked the eighteen year old gold rolex on
the wrist. If I want it, I'm gonna go get it,
regardless who's endorsing it. But if it's a tweener, fine,
if you think that's good for your marketing plan to
spend it. And if you want to pay the kid.
If the kid you think you know what, he's gonna
drive a Cadillac, and because other people are gonna drive
a Cadillac around usc because that guy gets great, no

(01:44:14):
have a problem. But here's the next level. You want
to be treated like and get paid like the big
boys do, then I got to treat you like the
big boys. Game four. You've struggled for four straight games,
and I'm paying you a lot of money. I'm cutting you.
You can stay and go to school, but you're not
on scholarship anymore. You're gonna pay use that nil money
that you just stole from us, And I mean legitimately.

(01:44:36):
You get my point, right, you do that, or you
go somewhere else. You do whatever you want where you
cut you. You're a grown ass man. You're getting paid.
We cut you. No, we're not. We're not apologizing. Well,
that's my kid. You can't cut him. Oh but he
can transfer in two months. No, sorry, this is big
boy stuff now. And then the other part is, oh,
the coach can do it, yeah on a buyout. Well

(01:44:58):
I got a great idea. Let's start putting number values
on players. You're a five star guy coming out high
school and you're the man, you're the cock of the walk.
Oh awesome. Well, the number value on you is if
you want to transfer more than once, or if you
want to transfer for my school in a certain amount
of time, that's ten million bucks. Five million bucks. Oh,
you want to go play at USC and you're at Texas.

(01:45:20):
That'll that school's paying us five million dollars to allow.
That's big boy stuff. Now you get to say, well,
I'm just like the coaches, even though you haven't lived
the life of the coaches because you're seventeen or you're nineteen,
and that coach has been grinding in small towns since
the cows came home trying to get a head coaching job.
It's different. They're not all the same. So when you
get that great, let's put you. I can cut you,

(01:45:41):
I can get rid of you. You're off scholarship. You
don't get to stay on camp. Well, they what about
their education? Their education? They've transferred five times. They don't
even know what school they're going to. You only want
education when we're trying to take it away from you.
But when you were there, you weren't going to class
part of the time. Anyway, you're one and done and
you're going to transfer anyway. And your GPA's one point
ninety seventy. You got to get a two point five
to be eligible. Save it. Save that. That's not even

(01:46:04):
a question. These guys, they don't even talk about that anymore.
And it's not a blanket statement. Some do, some don't.
But I'm gonna treat you like the big boys. I'm
placing a money value on you. That's a transfer portal.
You want to leave, Here's what it's going to cost
the school that loves you, and then I'm putting a
salary cap on it. We got twenty five million dollars
in the nil this year. Hire a capologist. We're hiring
general managers, Ron Rivera, cal Andrew Luck. We got GMS now,

(01:46:28):
so it's pros. This is pro sports now. So I
can cut you without pay, I can. I can get
rid of you. You're not on scholarship anymore. We are
placing a value on you. So you got to have
a buy out if you want to leave. And oh,
by the way, now there's special hardship injury cases. There's
always something for something. An asterix by it all. And oh,
by the way, that we're putting a salary cap. So

(01:46:49):
if you exceed the salary cap, I dock you two
scholarships or you gotta get rid of one of your kids, right,
cut him? This is pro sports, buddy. You wanted it
like this. You want ten million dollars to transfer to
four different schools because you're a coward ass and can't compete.
Guess what, here's what do we get? You want to
go for your third school in three years? Well, it's

(01:47:10):
going to cost him, and if they're willing to pay it,
watch how many schools quit doing nil the way they're
doing it now. If all of a sudden it cost
you five million dollars to go get a player that
you're not really sure because he's on his second transfer,
if he's good at the program. Boy, he's got five
stars next to his name, and he looks pretty good.
But he's going to fit into what we do value
in football and basketball wise, starting debt. Now you're the

(01:47:30):
big boys. There's a buyout and you can get cut.
And oh, by the way, you schools that want to
keep in here and poach everybody walle of games or
season's going on. Here's the deal. If you're above the
salary cap, here's the luxury tax we'll put on you
your next the next recruiting class, we're docking you three scholarships. Well,
I mean football for example.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
The old antiquated argument that is used for why the
transfer portal is opened during the football season, Well, they
have to get enrolled for the spring semester. It's the old, oh,
student athlete that went out the window a long time
ago once this all started to get into.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Plan, and I'm tired of the nineteen year old. These
are just kids that these are just kids that know
more about it, that know more about life than their
parents do. Okay, so I'll definitely know more about having
more money and rest. Right, that's been certain. That's what
I'm talking about the focus there. So don't tell me, well,
these kids deserve No, they deserve it when they've earned it.

(01:48:26):
And if you're getting paid like the big boys, and
you're hiring financial advisor and the rest of it, then
I can treat you like it. You're not living up
to the standard of this program. You're cut, so you
can stay and go to school, but it's on your die.
All that money you earned on nil. You can pay
for your own schooling. You're out. You don't fit this
program anymore. But coach no butt. Then a month later
he leaves on you. No, no, na, I'm no longer

(01:48:47):
one percent on the kid's side. You want to be
treated like the big boys. We're going to set rules
that make you treat like the big boys. Period.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
And even you know you talked about the big boys.
I mean they're still parameters. There's still the NFL. We
just had free agency. There's the guidelines right there of Hey,
you can't talk to that guy. You can't sign him
until we tell you you can talk to him and
sign him.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Right. There's a time when you can transfer. It ain't
during the NC TWA tournament on April twelfth, starting at
midnight transfer Portal open. Not on March twenty fourth. When
you're in the tournament, you gotta wonder if a guy
on your own team's leaving when you try to win
a national championship. All these kids screw the kids. They're

(01:49:27):
getting paid like it, and I'm all for the kids,
but no, no, no, they don't get to Rob Peter
and papal Well. The adults been doing it. He's sixty.
When you get to that point, you can do it too.
Everybody ain't treated the same, Sean. Growing up, were you
told that mom always knows better? But my mom didn't
need to say it. My pop said yeah, and eventually

(01:49:48):
you figure it out. Just like when you're married or
significant other, they're always right. The female is always right.
Mom usually is right because if when she says, well,
wait till your father gets home, that's the last few
words you wanted to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Definitely not well, that lesson was on full display. We'll
discuss that next right here, Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
Is Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue Rocks, you don't

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have food put on the red night those days of
you don't have to say up about it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
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seven ninety. The Koogs getting ready for Purdue Friday in
Indianapolis for the Sweet six team. So I threw this

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out to you, Sean of mom's telling you, which my
mom threw it at me quite a bit when I
was a kid. Mom's no best. Well for Jaden Daniels, mom,
mom is trying to prove that she still knows best.
So this I think was a couple of nights ago.
He was at where the women's basketball tournament was being played.

(01:51:30):
I think it was being played at USC. He's sitting
with Juji Watkins, which she's in the news now too,
But sitting with Juji Watkins looks like they're having a
nice conversation. They're enjoying each other's company. It's all fun.
The next time the cameras got there. Regina Jackson was
sitting right in between Jaden Daniels and she almost motioning

(01:51:55):
to him, hey, stop talking to her, watch the game,
like as in, no, I's going to make sure that
this conversation's going to stop now. There is precedent here
because she was on a Prime video documentary that followed
Jaden Daniels and also Libby Dunn and a few other
LSU athletes when they were in school, called The Money Game,

(01:52:18):
and she was asked, what is the thing that worries
you the most about your son? She said, girls, it's
those girls. She says, some girl is out there, she's
got Jaden Daniels on her wall, and her mom says,
you're going to be the one that gets them. Well,
she says, I know that sounds crazy, but I can
guarantee you there's someone out there who's trying to get
their hooks into my son. So it might look crazy,

(01:52:40):
but mama is over here saying that ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
What about the other side. If it was in the
case of let's just say Jaden and Juju were that
they were pursuing each other, mm hmm, maybe it's they're
going to get their hook that the quarterbacks is gonna
get his hooks into the Juju is pretty popular, man, right,
and you can go both ways. It's not just the
woman to the guy. It's the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
I'd like to land that. You know what I'm saying.
If you're like, man, great great girl, phenomenal basketball player.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Was on campus at LSU saying Livy Dunn girl, and
I should probably stay away from her, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Yeah, yeah, who wins that one? Right, It's the same
thing here. Well, Jade's really good. Juju's every bit is
good in her sport and popular as Jaden is and
his So I don't know how that's going to go.
Part of the lead is what a bummer toward her
a c L which is not good for sc But
she'll come back from it. She's a star. But man,

(01:53:38):
that those relationships, Yeah, mom knows best most of them.
When they're protecting their daughter, some can overprotect it. That's okay.
I'd rather have overprotection than no protection at all for them.
And I'm not talking about I'm talking about the conversation protection.
It goes with it. But yeah, but when you get
two of them together, Tiger and Trump, Jaden and juju.
If that is a relationship schemes and living I mean

(01:54:00):
power couples men. But a lot of times also it's
can the guy land the girl? Who's who's more? I
mean with the Kansas City Chiefs, you know where. Most
of the time, if you're if you're a Kelsey, it's, oh,
you're the popular one in a group. That's when we've
got a little more popular to you. They exist all
over the place. But yeah, at a young age, I

(01:54:23):
love mothers and dads who protect their kids, not not.
I don't protect them from adversity, protect them from from
making sure that they that that's still mom and Daddy's
girl or boy.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Right, Well, let me make sure that I get this
right without sounding like too much of a basic white guy.
Is it safe to say that Regina Jackson Jade Daniel's
mom is not down with zoid bandwidth?

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Uh, that's probably yeah, probably yeah, I'd say that's probably fair.
As you know, thank you for interfusing one of our phrase.
I liked that you've remembered the zoid bandwidth on here.
I like it because sometimes we'll say and you'll comment,
like during a show when you were during class, I
love it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
So you know what, we haven't had a zoid bandwidth
Mitchell in a while. Nice by you. I love it.
Zoid bandwidth can be a good thing. But Mom's protecting
zoid band within it. At some point in time, maybe
it's proved that, you know what, she's good for my boy,
right whoever that is from my son and my or
he's good for my daughter. So in this case, obviously

(01:55:22):
missus Jackson protecting her son. I get it. But I
also think that those two together feel like I don't
know if they're a relationship what have but think about this,
they're both are pretty smart decision makers. It appears that
they are a step ahead of the rest of us.
So there's certain people you just got to let it
go and trust that they're going to make good decisions.
But I love a mom and dad that did you know,

(01:55:43):
just looking out after their son or daughter. I'm going
to make good on the basic white guy right here.
Of going a dated reference, it's safe to say that, Mom,
So you actually are going to be looked at as
a basic white guy, especially once this comes out. It's
going to be uh for sure. Mom is basically Mickey
from Rocky in weekend knees rock. There you go, There

(01:56:03):
you go that that's uh little Uh. What's my guy's name, Well,
that's Burnsy. We called him Meredith when he was my
coach in Minnesota. So yeah, that's a and that was
give me those three again. What's he called women? Weeke
and knees? Yeah, there you go, as as as women
weak and knees right, men and weekend knees. Who do

(01:56:24):
you fight? Well? Are you okay? Let me ask you?
Phto Rico, Spider Rico, is a bum pregame? Is pregame
love making good for your game? Or do you think
it does weaken theees? What if it does?

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
I mean, doesn't it relax you? Probably clear is the mechanism.
But you know you also have people who say, you
know you want to have the the engine full flowing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
Yeah, but here here's the way I look at it.
Though in my career I can either confirm nor maybe
with your sake, you've done both right sometimes going right, no,
just being being above the belt right, no pun intended.
But there's too. It's two pronged. If it's a marathon session,

(01:57:11):
probably not a wise idea. But if it's a just
a you know, we both got to get up because
you just feelings. Yeah, I think that's a good thing
because you just depending on the position. Now, maybe if
you're a linebacker, you don't want to do that because
you want to play with rage. Yeah you got As
a quarterback or a picture, it's just like it was,

(01:57:32):
it was a set. I'm relaxed, I'm in my feet.
I mean, I'm not a set in their stressed or
I think it depends on the position and the sport.
I think maybe as a wrestler, you play, you want
to be pissed as a mofo, right, as a quarterback,
you just want to be settled in and relaxed. And
sometimes that Now for a boxer or an m m
A and you decide to go on a marathon, a

(01:57:54):
marathon where it's like a six hour session and you're
you're you're basically think your sting, right, I would probably
not advise that. But if somebody going to mom Andre like, hey, honey,
you're going out the doors, like you know what, hang
on a second, I got I mean for you, Dan,
what fifteen twenty seconds or is that yeah? Yeah, you know,
for you know, if it's one of those the quicks

(01:58:15):
long as long as someone leaves happy. Yeah, yes, that's
that's both. We should be both of you. Yeah yeah,
but are you going to a gat then that I
think that can actually open up things of your band
with the vision and relaxation and breathe, taking a deep
breath and approaching your business that way.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
I brought up the movie Outside Providence earlier. Alec Baldwin
plays the dad and he gives his son advice and
he says the deed is like Chinese dinner. It ain't
over until you both go get your cookies. Points Edmond says,
Remember I remember I told you that there you go,
So there you go that one that you mentioned. I
have not seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Is it worse? Saying it is? It is? Yeah? Thriller?

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
No, no, not even a drama either. It's kind of
like a rom com. Yeah, okay, because in a bunch
of those yeah, alls for Amy smart. So yeah it's
a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
So he was smart. Yeah, there he was. There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
Yeah, he got the girl one way or another. We
all get ours, Sean. My uncle once told me that
some good, some bad, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
That's it. Some would say it's it's never bad. Yeah,
that's pizza. You know you've never had a bad cold
Beard hot pizza.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
There you go, there you go, all right, nine o'clock Cower,
come up right here at Sports Talk seven ninety. Get
back into the Cam Smith conversation. Biscuit, Gary Brandon, see
you guys right there. Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
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Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 10 (02:00:06):
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Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
Cam Smith to run at triple in the first inning,
also making a nice play against the wall out there
in right field. Rockets Home tonight for the Hawks. Six
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at Twitter accounts. But as we are going to do
all throughout the baseball season, as Sean, we've been talking
Cam Smith everything else of the sorts every single week
courtesy of Carbach Brewing. Our good buddy Chris Gordy canna
be stopping by and hopping in the studio. Gordy, what's up, buddy? Oh,

(02:01:23):
so far, so good, triple Y. I'm gonna get him
going here.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
So, I mean, we've got the season coming up. I
mentioned it, you know, got you know the Cam Smith.
You were over there yesterday and I was talking about
it with Sean. That's I I texted you afterwards and
I said, they don't do that with a guy that's
on the bubble and is maybe going to be sent
back down. You're doing the dugout with the media.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
Yeah. Let me let me just tell you guys.

Speaker 4 (02:01:47):
The vibe in the ballpark yesterday, it's it's Cam Smith excitement.
I mean, It is just seeing him out there shagging
fly balls. And then at one point I tweet out
the video from her seven ninety account, Dave Clark is
literally working with him in right field, showing him the dimensions.
Here's what you do in this part of the wall. Hey,
right here, you can reach over and your arm can

(02:02:08):
reach out. Now, be careful when you run into this part.
It's a little bit harder right here. I mean it
was he was teaching them all the new odces that
I get. He was playing right field last night in
Dyket Park, by the way, his first time ever in Houston,
his first time ever at tyk In Park, Like this
is all.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
New to him. He's learning it all.

Speaker 4 (02:02:22):
But I don't know, man, the vibe just feels like,
don't you think they would have made an announcement by
now if this wasn't happening.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
I had no question, and I think that they while
we're all making it, is it a like his big decision.
I actually think that decision is a no brainer for him.
I do, what's the advantage, what's the advantage right now
sending the kid to triple A?

Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
Well, the only thing is he only has I think
it was thirty two games in the miners last year
with the Cubs, and only five of those were at
Double A, like all the rest were high A and
low A.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
So, but you've watched players that are built different. Yeah,
well let's go to an ol SU. You guys are
both LSU fans Stingley. When he came in as a freshman?
Was he the same as every other corner? No different?
And he proved it on the field. Okay, So if
he would have had a bad National Championship game, he'd
come back his sophomore year and in the offseason and
fix it. Some guys who are just built different, there's

(02:03:16):
not a there's not a pecking order that I understand
the norm. What has he done that looks normal to you?
Grow Gordy?

Speaker 4 (02:03:23):
In truth, he just I mean, even last night with
the pressure of playing, Okay, this is the ballpark I
want to play in. Oh, there's fans in the stands. Oh,
it's a little bit of pressure here, counting down opening
days days away.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
What does he do? It's a triple right right? So too,
like you know, you know it's interesting about that. Some
guys they take a while to move themselves in and
you can be it's easy to be overwhelm. I can't
remember the first time I walked down to Coliseum Tunnel
the opening night We're playing Tennessee. Both of us are
like top fifteen teams, and I'm like, I said, this, yeah,
this ain't Orrige Glod high school brother, and it was

(02:03:54):
just different. And then Marcus runs for like two hundred
and forty yards right, and I'm like, Okay, this is
pretty cool. So it's good. Can be overwhelming, but some
guys too, and it didn't played at the end of
the game because we beat him so bad. But in
this kid's in his case, I don't feel like when
he stares up at the lights, he's looking up saying
I'm overwhelmed. I feel like he's looking up saying I

(02:04:14):
can't wait to dominate this. I think I think there's
just different and sometimes you just got to adjust to that.
And I think he's gonna be just just.

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
Talking with him, you know, he meets with They're like
he's gonna speak with the media after his workout.

Speaker 1 (02:04:26):
He's just he's mature behind his years. He gives all
the right answers.

Speaker 4 (02:04:31):
He said something to the effect of it's in God's hands,
and I know whatever will happen is the right thing
to happen. It's like, guys don't talk like that when
they're twenty twenty one years old, Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
Dandy, U A Gordy both think about this and you
guys respond how you'd like. But don't you think that
there's some guys who walk into a building that the
fans right now we know what yordarm rings. I honestly
think he right now is a ticket seller. Yes, I
believe on already that the guy is a ticket seller.

(02:05:03):
I've been thinking about that. That's when Bob four does
the introductions on opening day. If he's in the lineup
and they introduced him, that's gonna be the loudest pop
of any of the guys. I wouldn't doubt it. One
still wear number ninety two.

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
I wonder if they're you know, I thought I heard
somebody say that possibly twenty two is in play for him.

Speaker 9 (02:05:20):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:05:20):
Maybe I imagine that we'll have to pick a number
if that happened. What's the best single digit baseball number?

Speaker 10 (02:05:25):
One?

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
I think three is see always like two? Do you
I grew up and two? Yeah? And nine is a
good one too. I think it's so mannle was seven, right, yeaven? Seven?
Three was uh babe? Well three was babe, Ruth, there
you go. Three is a good one. Just wonder. But
he looks like a double digit guy to you, guys,
do you think probably? Yeah, it's it's crazy too.

Speaker 4 (02:05:49):
So I saw some people in the comments post, you know,
we posted the video of him talking yesterday, and so
people in the comments are saying, look, no offense to
Kyle Tucker, but he was the most passive guy when
he spoke.

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
It was it's like, yeah, it's fun, like you.

Speaker 4 (02:06:01):
Know, he just gave short answers, and it was like, dude,
shows some personality you have, any personality.

Speaker 1 (02:06:06):
And there's nothing else the energy and right field, at
least the the vibe. Yeah, feels a little different right
whether he's a better player, by the way, we could
talk about now he's gone. Didn't feel like he took
bad angles a lot of times, like he would make
some catches you go, well, thank god you caught it,
but god did you make a bad read on that? Again,
not trying to bury the guy while he's gone, but
it was an interesting point of this kid's got charisma,

(02:06:29):
he's got energy, he's young. The youthfulness watching Mauricio Dubond
go up to him during batting practice and like sharing
some tips with him, Like it energizes the veterans because
they go, oh, here's a young guy I can help.
I felt that's what we're talking about to about that
energy earlier. It's infused. And you know what, I believe
guys like him are a magnet. It's not the young

(02:06:50):
guy going and chasing down the veteran. It's the veteran
coming and chasing him down because they see something special.
They know he's gonna you got two ears in one mouth,
and he's gonna use him accordingly. And I actually think
that there's that part because I've been around guys that
they come in the league saying I want to I
want part of that. This guy's different. Young guy comes
in the league in a league ten years, same thing here.
That's like, I'm gonna rub shoulders with it because I

(02:07:11):
want some of that energy and talent to rub off
on the rest of us and see if we can
match it.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
And it seems like sometimes the question with guys like him,
you want to ask, you know, when's that moment when
do you feel like you belonged. I mean, do you
feel like that there's also guys that, like there's certain
people that don't need that, Like it's just it's kind
of it's it's kind of understood that to them. It's
like I said with the Astros Bullpen earlier, it's on
a string, like it's on a string for them, Like
it's just it's there for them.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
They know how to handle it. Gherty, I think that
he doesn't. I don't think he can went into spring
training and think he belongs. I think he knew he
belonged and was going to win the job. Yeah. I
don't know how you feel about that. Not arrogantly, but
there's a sense of I got this handled.

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
I kind of wanted to ask him that too, because
remember when the trade went down, the vibe was, Okay,
this is one of the top prospects for the for
the Cubs, he's a third baseman. But in this trade
they got Hesak Paratus, so you know, he's probably gonna
spend this whole year in the miners. When they put
out the prospect list for the Astros, it said expected
call up date twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
That was everybody's thinking. And I want to think it
might have been his mindset too, like.

Speaker 4 (02:08:13):
There's no way I'm gonna go to the Astros and
start immediately, like I but I was curious to maybe
ask him that, like did you think that? Because again
I think Sparks brought it up. There's that there's that
Bregman mentality. Bregman always had that that confidence. It borderedline
on cockiness, but he just knew he was going to
get it done. And I kind of see some of

(02:08:33):
that from camp Smith.

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
When I remember I said that yesterday, Dan, I said,
I feel like the guy everybody's worried. Well, what happens
if it's fragile and he struggles and he loses confidence?
I said, well, when we watched the third baseman, he
could hit one seventy eight, and when you talk to Bregman,
he felt like he was hitting three forty right, And
I think that this kid just from from a distance.
And then listen if I like to watch him a distance,

(02:08:54):
but I like to listen to the people who are
around him all the time. Talk painya, he looks the part, plays,
the part, acts, the part to bond. This guy's a
sixty home run guy. Christian Walker, great command, to play
love that he doesn't chase bad. I mean, you're starting
to hear guys who've seen it all. Yeah, and there's nobody.

(02:09:15):
Nobody said, well, you know, give him a break. I
didn't hear one person say well, he's young, let him
grow into it. And maybe they did, but I didn't
read it. It's almost as if this dude's been playing
major league baseball for five years. Well, he's built difference. Okay,
they come along. We mentioned Ocunya. Certain guys just come.
Harper walked in. He had his struggles, but he walked
into Washington after a little while and hit the ground running.

(02:09:36):
The rest is history. There's certain guys that are different.
This guy looks that part.

Speaker 4 (02:09:40):
Joe spot I mentioned it yesterday, and I'm a big
college baseball nut that we're seeing a trend now. I mean,
there's so many stud aces Friday night aces on these
college teams now and guys with nil You know, it
used to be, Oh, I'm gonna be.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
A first rounder.

Speaker 4 (02:09:54):
I'm going because I'm going to get that signing bonus.
Now guys are going, I'm go playing college for three years,
get three years of an eye money, and then I'll
get that MLB contract After that, I think you're gonna
see a more and more of this trend of guys coming.

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
Out of college that are pro ready. Oh I mean,
forget this, go spend three years ago minors crap, Like
you've already done that in contay.

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
Studs in the SEC or acc on Fridays and Saturday
nights like I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
To go ninety seven too. That's exactly right.

Speaker 9 (02:10:20):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
So Cam Smith is one of the two remaining roster spots.
Who's the other position player, who's the final bullpen guy?

Speaker 4 (02:10:27):
I don't know, it'll be it'll be interesting. I know
they already said Logan van Why. You know, they told
him he's not gonna you know, he's not gonna make
the club. But I mean he had a one thirty
two fifteen strikeouts this spring. So I think we're gonna
see Logan van Why at some point this year. But
it sounds like Ryan Gusto might be that guy to
get that last that last.

Speaker 1 (02:10:46):
SPOS raved about him yesterday. Yeah, he's he's a big dude,
but you know he looks good.

Speaker 4 (02:10:52):
I love Steven Okert making I interviewed him right when
I got down to spring training, And that's a guy
who two seasons ago had some good numbers and thenlast
year kind of what sideways. He kind of found himself
this spring. I mean, he's I think leads a team
in strikeouts as far as bullpen guys, So he's been outstanding.
And yeah, I tend to feel pretty confident in the bullpen.
I know you guys are talking about a bray you

(02:11:12):
and all those guys. I feel pretty good about that bunch.
To me, it's about the starting pitching. How does Haunter
Brown respond coming into this year? How does Spencer get?
I mean I was looking at Spencer's faces plastered all
over the stadium now and I asked him, as his
locker guests, I say, man, what a difference to your
mix last year? You don't even know if you're making
his roster or getting called up this year and now.

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Canty doing his laundry right?

Speaker 8 (02:11:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
Maybe yeah, living at home during spring, so you know,
you know we're not talking much about so I'm expect
is he's it's just been a quiet spring, is Jordan. No,
we're never not saying much. I mean, I mean, and
a lot of that has to do with the camp
Smith love right. I get that, and with the change
at third base and bringing Christian Walker, all those things
that go with the now two vay and left field.

(02:12:01):
But some teams of me, we're looking for a volcano
to explode at the pint this year.

Speaker 4 (02:12:07):
I was watching him take BPS or stand next to
Randy mclvoy and he's just crushing him out. And I
only know what Randy I said, Dude, I could watch
this for two hours just his his swing is so sweet.
He just fall, you know, no effort, just effortlessly crushes
him out.

Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
You know, you talking about who maximizes efficiency from a swing, Yeah,
it's him. It's unbelievable. But they got to find that
jurd On again.

Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
I mean, he was not that feared hitter on the back,
you know, towards the end of of the season and
then in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (02:12:35):
I know it's only two games.

Speaker 4 (02:12:36):
It's a lot unfair to put that on him, but like,
you're supposed to be the clutch hitter, and you've had
so many clutch moments in your short career already. They
got to find that guy. And I think that's the
idea of making him the full time DH. They want
to take him out of left field. Say, all you're
doing is hitting every day, stay healthy for us, stay
in the right mindset.

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
And if he does that, I mean, it will be
a forty home run year. And think about this, I
mean with now two va pretis thing at the top,
but just think by when you get three, four, five
and six if they do what we expect and seven,
if Payne is your seventh hitter in the lineup and
matures like people are talking about his spring discipline at
the plate, you go Jordan Walker, Diaz Smith and Paanya

(02:13:19):
not the first two, one, seven is as good as
any maybe the Dodgers, but that's as good as anybody
in the American League one through seven period.

Speaker 3 (02:13:28):
We've been looking for a way to lengthen this lineup.
That's the way to do it. He's Chris Gordy joins
us every week. Here a Curtsey of carbockaming.

Speaker 4 (02:13:35):
Gordy Thursdays, right, yeah, yeah, yeah'd be with you guys
Tuesdays and Thursday. Nown Thursday, Well we might have to
figure out because I'll be at the ballpark with the
guys getting ready for uh for opening Day. And I
was just there yesterday and it was awesome walking around
the concourse and seeing all the Crawford box signs everywhere, the.

Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
Tikilo Sunrise stripes. It's back. You're gonna be able to
be back at the ballpark and join it.

Speaker 4 (02:13:54):
And guys, they just put out the Crawford Pale ale
I brought you guy, I know, showing you like other beers,
but I brought you one to to try.

Speaker 1 (02:14:00):
You can test that. You can always test it. Thank
you very much, Thank you very much. It doesn't say
what it says, but I'm gonna it. Is this their
new beer. This is this is a limited edition in
Crawford Pale Hill. It's blue. It's I had some over
the weekend. It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:14:13):
And whether it's that or the traditional Crawford book, of course,
you get enjoy all season long over there at dik
In Park.

Speaker 1 (02:14:18):
It's gonna be a fun year. Well, me and Sean
are going to shotgun him during the break, so well
we don't we don't drink on the air. Dam Oh
well you know what mama doesn't know. Done. There's there's
suburban too. We'll do both.

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Speaker 2 (02:15:39):
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Speaker 1 (02:15:45):
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Speaker 10 (02:15:51):
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Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
Back to Sean on Sports Talk seven ninety and Uh,
we were talking about the transfer portal earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:16:00):
Sean, Hey, real quick, just some and this was Nathan
he just heard it. Uh, it's it's Matt Kawahara. Ryan
Augusta will open the season in the Astros bullpens said
has been validated. And Nathan quote tweeted that and sent
it to us. So Gordy was spot on, and there
you see it. So Augusta is going to fill that
bullpen spot. Who's the guy who has a lot of

(02:16:22):
you know, is the starter? But you, hey, dude, you
want to stay down and be a starter. There you
want to come, I'm whatever you need.

Speaker 3 (02:16:30):
To give you a couple of innings. I'll be the
dubin roll. There you go, there you go, film mats
on before him.

Speaker 6 (02:16:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:16:35):
Dick Weiss, who covers college basketball for the New York
Daily News, we were talking about the transfer portal earlier.
It's only day two of the transfer portal. Nine hundred
players are in it. It's it's it's despicable. I'm just
sorry to tell you it is.

Speaker 8 (02:16:49):
It is.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
I don't know how you feel about that, dude. I
just it's nine hundred players aren't getting paid a million
dollars each.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
I'm just not even that they're not getting paid a
million dollars each. They're not to find another program, right.

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
The statistics will tell you that half of them are
going to be left out or at least have to
go down a notch or somewhere where they're which is fine,
there's good basketball played everywhere. But it's it's absurd. The
majority of those guys aren't going to get big nil
money and got beat out and they're not playing that.

(02:17:23):
That's that. That is the reality. I probably shouldn't have
even been this level in the first place. There you go,
So nine hundred and it started Monday, which was yesterday.
It was open to do it yesterday, right, Yeah to me,
and we're supposed to embrace this. Yeah, it's an embarrassment
to college basketball and college football. It's just is it's
an and quite frankly for some and of those nine hundred,

(02:17:46):
how many of them you think are going to stay
at that school two hundred. Okay, there you go. So
I don't know. It's like I said, there are cases
when it's I encourage. I get it. We got this
all wrong though the transfer portal. I know how to
fix it. I've told you. I just told you all that. Right.

(02:18:07):
If you want to treat them like the big boys,
you can get cut. We'll put a salary cap on
the transfer portal, nil money, and there's a buyout you
want to leave. Here's the money that school's got to
pay to get you. Things will change in a hurry.
It'll stop the tampering in most of those things. I
don't think there's any doubt about that. You touched on earlier.
My home away from home that I worked in a

(02:18:27):
few years. There was a famous guy there named Bobby Cox.
He had a famous line that said, these things have
a way of working themselves out. So I think, better
get a quick, Dan. We got to start to regulate this.
They better get it quick because it's already spiraling out
of control. This this is think about this. What we
do in the transfer portal in college in football and

(02:18:48):
basketball is ten times the frenzy that NBA Baseball and
NFL free agency is ten times ten ten times horse
minimum minimum. And this isn't exactly how I think they
met and that they they met for this to be,

(02:19:09):
they meant for this to be.

Speaker 3 (02:19:09):
Should I say, well, I mean they basically threw it
out there and then the NCAA was like, well, now
we're out of the enforcement business because we can't enforce anything.
And well, lah, this is what you get, all right?
H seven one three two one two five seven ninety
is the way to get in on the fun lines. Brandon,
what's up, buddy?

Speaker 1 (02:19:25):
How you doing? It's soon?

Speaker 8 (02:19:27):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:19:27):
I sorry, I got ye today ago. You're good, buddy.

Speaker 10 (02:19:33):
We're here anyway. I'm ready for open any day, So
are we? Man?

Speaker 1 (02:19:38):
Are you excited you're going to be there? Nope, I'm
gonna be watching it on TV.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
Okay, Well, actually I would say even better to download
the iHeartRadio app, buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:19:48):
And that's the way you can get it. Is it
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Speaker 3 (02:19:55):
And of course we know that you would have Sports
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Speaker 1 (02:20:01):
Oh yeah, Hatch request Gordy doing.

Speaker 3 (02:20:05):
Gordy's doing great. He brought us beer. So we're in
in even better mood than we were when Gordy first
got in. Let's say we weren't in a good mood,
but Gordy's doing awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:20:14):
Man.

Speaker 10 (02:20:16):
I was gonna say to him, but before he left, he.

Speaker 1 (02:20:19):
Can hear you. So I mean, if you say, if
you give him a shout out, he's he's there, he's listening. No,
he's not. He's he's back in the other room. He's listening.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
But you're excited for opening day, buddy, we're excited to
We'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:20:32):
Okay, all right, all right, see, buddy, you know what
I think we need to get Gordy batphone. So when
when Brandon wants to talk to him when he's off air,
Oh for that, okay, he could just get his dial
in and batphone him and say Gordie or still Gordy
could pick up time here Brandon. Yeah, yeah, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:20:50):
I just I kind of got like flashbacks there of
working for Micromanaging Management that they had had rings in
the office, they had a line right into the studio.

Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
No, can you just hear this voice? And you're like,
who the hell is that I got to do so.
And so if somebody put that line into here, up
taking it off the hook and leave it it. Okay,
you're gonna have to walk down the hall and talk
to us if that's the case. But yeah, just so
in case Brandon wants to talk to Gordy like after
the interview, Yeah, that he can just call and Gordy
can pick it's the Brandon line. We're we're we're a
full service operation. Damn we are. That's exactly. I love it.

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I love it all right. It's uh.

Speaker 3 (02:21:24):
Someone three two five, seven ninety is the number to
get in on the phone lines. Al I know wants
to weigh in on the transfer portal conversation. We were
just having Gary as well. We'll get to you guys
here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety
Sean Salisbury.

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I had to live that there the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 3 (02:22:50):
You're gonna see plenty of that's that's one of the
things too. By the way, tc houopen dot Com is
where you can get tickets and information. One of my
favorite things to do PGA event is to go to
the range and see those guys where baseball. Now you've
got track, man, you got all that stuff. You got
a spring training. You see that's behind him. You're like, hey,
what the hell is that thing behind him?

Speaker 8 (02:23:10):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:23:10):
Tracks, the spin rate, all that kind of stuff. Golf,
they've got it on steroids. Now you get out there
and these guys have everything. That driver, I didn't like that.
Let me try the other one. They're tankering all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:23:22):
I told you this story off there and we had
when we when we were talking astros and tournament last week,
Jason ep of Market Marketing Yip is, I'm at the
Phoenix Open one year and that's a you know, we know,
that's a party dressed up as a golf tournament. And
on the range is Scott Simpson, who's a US Open champion.
And Scott's a usc guy. So I'm walking up down

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we just watching him hit and he turns and goes, Sean,
come on in here. So I'm going in standa while.
He's just hitting balls and he's such a sweetheart of
a human, right, just a great guy. And so's he's
on the last range spot there. But the few fans gathering.
You can see it, and it's just starting to get
in around the mid day. Whe people starting to roll in. Right,
So we're talking and laughing and catching up, just talking

(02:24:06):
to us. He's talking life and having fun. And he's
just beating balls. Right, That didn't sound right. He's ben
he's beat golf balls. Okay, he's counting ball he's just
counting balls on the driving rage going and he's got
his clothes on. No he uh so he's hitting, he's

(02:24:27):
hitting golf shots. And so he gets a I think
it was an eight iron, might have been an iron,
but more of a you know, a lofted club. And
he says, Sean, you want to have some fun? I
said sure, because at that time, you know, playing to
about a ten handicaps. So hit some good shots. But
like we all, I can shoot ninety five, right, sure,
So now I can top a ball with the best.
And when you don't try to. Now, if you try to,

(02:24:49):
you can't. You just can't. But you can hit it
and you can always hit it heavy because you can
take that big difference. So if you try to do that,
like the trick shots usually didn't work. The trick shots
me come when I was trying to hit a normal
shot right right, says dude, He's hitting golf balls, and
he says, watch this. So there's this still gathering because
you know, they want to see these players hit and
the things they can do with any golf club. They

(02:25:11):
can back up a golf shot in the middle of
on the range, you know, the higher grass, they can
spin it back in there. They can do whatever they want. Right,
So Scott's hitting balls and I'm like, he goes, watch this.
So he's got the club face opened, and he's taking
a full swing and he's hitting the top third of
the golf on. The ball is literally bouncing four feet
in front of us and stopping. And so he does

(02:25:32):
it again, and he keeps doing He goes, just watch
the people at the range, and if you try to
do it, dude, you just can't because you'll either miss it,
you'll hit it heavy, you'll scull it. And he's hitting
the top with a foot there like a nine iron,
a pitching wedger, an eight, just flattening the face and
hitting on the top and it's just bouncing, spin stops
and their start. You can start to get this feel

(02:25:54):
like these people are going to think that he's got
the hips that he can't he can't hit a shot. Yeah,
he's like ten cup, right, and it's like, damn, I mean,
we've all got the hips, but this is a pro
golfer who's a major champion. And so you start, Okay,
I can understand if he was talking trick shots and
they're having fun. It was a contest. No, it was
full swing, and you're like, they don't know what he's thinking, right,

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And so I'm sitting here thinking, oh my gosh, and
you starting the crowd starts to gathering more is if
this poor dude, Scott Simpson, who's a little older than
some of the younger guy you're starting to think he
can't hit a golf shot. He's like the rest of us.
But every and there's fifteen balls within a four foot circle,
and you could start to think they're thinking like, oh

(02:26:37):
my gosh, this dude's have the They're start talking to
their friends like this is what's wrong with him? And
then obviously realize he decides okay, I had it enough
for this, and he starts hitting balls the way he
wants to hit him. But I'm just fasty. You talked
about the skill set that you'll see out there and
to be able to do that, I'm like I told her,
I said, Scott, you know I can do that anytime
I don't want to do it and it ends up
going to in front of me. I need to hit

(02:26:58):
a two hundred yard shot and I hit it eight
yard shot. Normally on the t box, we'd call that.
You have to play if you don't go by the
ladies teas with your you know, you've got to play
with your Richard out right, Well, he's doing it and
then all of a sudden goes back to hit him,
and I'm like the fascination of how good these guys
are that if they don't hit a two hundred yard
shot within a ten foot circle, then they failed in
their mind. I'm just trying to hit short grass. But

(02:27:20):
I love it and I can't wait till the tournament
this week. It's gonna be fun to watch. But they're
all solid ball strikers, and they can be non solid
ball strikers when they want and hit the top third
of a golf ball at any point in time. They'd
like to. You almost hate him for it, Oh, what
do you mean almost?

Speaker 3 (02:27:35):
I was going to say, I mean, it's the old
age old You got the genie in front of you,
and you got one wish left.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
You know, you can be any type of pro athlete
golfer all day. Oh, and then then you'll go play
with a buddy who's like a two handicapped. It's a
really good player and they can hit it where they want,
and you're like, Okay, the guys shoots seventy two when
you go play with him. No, Mulligan's just shooting seventy two, right,
like this, my buddy's this some bit just can play
my brother. And then you go and then you talk

(02:28:03):
the guy who's the four hundred and fiftieth guy on
tour beats him down. You know what I'm saying, it's
not you got to give him ten strokes. Like when
I heard Scheffler talking about when, oh, what do you
do you get to play for fun? He goes, yeah,
I go play with one of my buddy. He's like
a ten handicap. He's not very good. And I'm like,
whoa slow your role man? Shit, maybe that's decent for
us saying, you know, he said it not very good.

(02:28:23):
He goes, so, you know, give him ten strokes. I'm like,
he said, it's so casually that his buddies that he
plays with from Dallas, I'm like at his club, I'm like, damn,
but it's true. You get buddies that are single digit
low handicappers. It can go shoot seventy on a good
golf course from the back tees and then you go
play with the pro And I played in pro ams
with him, like Cam Smith or Cochrack, who's hitting it
so far you can't see the ball. It's like, Okay,

(02:28:46):
it's like it's a completely different ball game. They're they're
playing in a whole different world. Dude, it's like baseball.
You're talking about this Cam Smith, you know, being different. Ye,
I mean that's that's those guys.

Speaker 8 (02:28:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:28:55):
Oh that Sam Smith's shirt game is going to be about.
It is is at a different rarefied This dude that
we're about to see in right fields a long game
is going to be rarefied too.

Speaker 3 (02:29:05):
Best piece of business advice my brother ever gave me,
because like I told you, hell of a player shot
seventy two at pebble. He can play a former baseball player.
I hate him, but you said the best seventy The
best piece of advice, be really good at golf. It
helps your business, oh man, because then the boss knows
you're really good at golf.

Speaker 1 (02:29:24):
You're trying to close a deal. I'm bringing my ringer
with me. Yeah. Not only is it good at business
to close deals, it's also good that you get invited
to events in the boss when you tell him you're
going to go play golf, says, go play. There's no
argument because well, what are you doing out there? You're
messing around? No, I'm closing deals. Yeah. That's the greatest
place on the planet for a lot of things, for sure,
and those two are at the top of the list

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about it.

Speaker 3 (02:29:45):
Relaxation, it helps everybody, all right, Gary and Al will
squeeze you guys here in here. Also to get into
a little bit of the camp Smith conversation. We've had
a lot of fun with the Transfer Portal conversation today,
so we'll continue here on the sh Sean Salisbury show.

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Speaker 10 (02:31:52):
We want to wait.

Speaker 1 (02:31:54):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety is a Wally is
gonna go be the ambassador? I would think when that
run is over, whenever that is, I don't even know
how long ambassador would I mean, I'm guessing throughout the presidency,
and if I'm I'm done. My guess is because he's

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a hands on he's built the phenomenal business as we know.
I'm not tell anything you don't know. My guess is
when he comes back they his resignation letter is no
longer accepted. I think the board is going to nanimously approve. Yeah,
if he wants the gig back, yeah, I would think so.
I would think so. No hostile takeovers here, Yeah, he
won't need to. There you go, there you go. But

(02:32:38):
I'm kind of cool for him to be something. What
a nice change up pitch at this stage of a
of a phenomenally successful career.

Speaker 3 (02:32:44):
I was gonna say, I mean, it's, you know, one
of those you know what, You've accomplished everything you've built,
amusement parks, casinos, all the restaurants, everything of the sort,
and own a basketball team, a reality star like it
seems like what else can't you do?

Speaker 1 (02:32:58):
Yeah? Well, now add to the resume, which is long
and illustrious, he's gonna go be the ambassador to Italy.
Now what does that mean? Just some fancy parme party
off Lake Como All. That's tough gig. I don't know.
Maybe they'll throw mastros out there right now.

Speaker 6 (02:33:13):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:33:15):
That's good for him?

Speaker 9 (02:33:18):
Is that what?

Speaker 1 (02:33:18):
I think?

Speaker 3 (02:33:18):
It is?

Speaker 1 (02:33:18):
Right around the corner from the from the leaning tower.
That that is, yes, grab it. You could get a
nice Italian food there, but also got yourself a seafood
tower there. Good for him though, what a nice I mean,
options are nice, that's it?

Speaker 3 (02:33:32):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say it's it's it's better
than not having him, that's for sure. Gary in Spring,
what's the way in here? On Sports Talk seven ninety Gary,
what's up?

Speaker 5 (02:33:41):
Hey, good morning guys. Hey, real quick, I'll talk about
the Astros real quick. Triple Lice put us on a
one minute curfew here, so I got to hurry up
if it's probably long enough anyway, because if I thought
more than one minute i start, I'll become a rambling man,
which is a good song.

Speaker 1 (02:33:56):
But that's okay.

Speaker 5 (02:33:57):
Hey, that one guy Brandon that calls in, he sounds
just like a gone another channel named Gilbert. But anyway,
I digress on the baseball deal you were talking earlier. Man,
My head was shaking my eyes or rolling back.

Speaker 1 (02:34:09):
These damn pictures.

Speaker 5 (02:34:10):
You're right, they want to get five innings out of them.
If you take every Hall of Fame pitcher, line them up,
one hundred of them, many of how many of her
there are? And if any of them ever went to
the dugout? Before I start said, well, I hope I
get five innings out of this man, so I'll make
the Hall of thing.

Speaker 1 (02:34:27):
They'll never make it that way, but yeah, really quick.
They'd also been slapped by the pitcher standing next to them.
Five innings. No, you're giving us seven? Yeah right, exactly? Yeah, yeah,
Nolan Ryan and he would I don't know. That would
never work to him.

Speaker 5 (02:34:43):
But anyway, on the last thing with spent that guy
out there, now, I'm good either way. I mean, I
want him to start, but if you've done, I'm okay
because he's not really an alder. If he plays out
there more with the minor league team and gets outfield
play and then I'm all for it, I want to
say start, but I'm good either way. So anyway, great

(02:35:04):
show today, guys, Thanks.

Speaker 1 (02:35:05):
Funny, appreciate it. I would imagine that Gary's going to
see you want to see him start. It won't be
at the minor league level that will be starting right field.
Well that leavest two quarter outfield positions of guys that
haven't played it. But that's going to say quick studies,
I'm sure for both well and the casuals out there,
we'll say al Tuve and left and a guy that's
never played right, Oh, how's this going to go? But
I was watching last night our good buddy Brian Bogus Svic.

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They were doing a little post game afterwards, and he
was like, the way he got a break on that ball,
looks like he's been playing right field for a while.
And that catch he made near the wall, it was
pretty savvy.

Speaker 3 (02:35:37):
He knew make the catch, kind of curl up a
little bit so you don't take the full bront of
the wall right here, and threw it back in.

Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
And all's well, Like we said, you ever had that
guy that you take somewhere that that's athletic, you've been
around that you say, he says, I've never bowled, and
he goes in rules of two twenty. I hate that guy.
Have you ever had that guy who says, man, I
don't know, man, I don't know how to really do this.
I've never done And then you go play tennis with
him and he beats every shot to the baseline. Well
maybe just maybe like Bogie who knows a little bit

(02:36:07):
about baseball, I'd say, right, uh, being facetious. Of course
he does that, learning angles and all that. Maybe this
guy's just a quicker study than others. And feels like
the freak show talent, not just at the plate, everywhere.
Some of those guys just do everything better than everybody else.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
I'm a huge fan of Cam Smith already, but if
I find out it's one of those Hey, you know
you ever played golf before? And then hey, throw a
golf club in his hand? Yeah, yeah, what's what's what's
he shooting? It's just like, oh, come on, well, then
then we're gonna hate him if he does. But I'll
love to say, but those guys where you just shake
your head, Okay, you prick. It's just that guy who

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every time you do anything, you're exactly right that they just.

Speaker 1 (02:36:48):
Know how to do it. It's just like, is there
anything you're not good at?

Speaker 5 (02:36:51):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:36:52):
Yeah, but I'm not a very good cook. Oh okay,
all right, I won't come to you for that, right,
But put a baseball bat in his hand. I think
we're a pretty good shape. Brother. I think you're gonna
see him. I'm gonna just say, six hole, seven hole,
opening day right fielder against the Mets, and we'll have
two pretty those dynamic players. You get a little Sodo
and get a little uh Cam Smith. That'll be fun

(02:37:13):
for the viewing pleasure. It's gonna be a fun day.
Can't wait.

Speaker 3 (02:37:15):
And when we talk to you in twenty hours, it'll
be only one more day before opening day. He's Shawn Salisbury,
Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews. This has been the
Sean Salisbury Show, Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up
next right here on your Home with the Astros and
the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety