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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury to USC True's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthews, This is the Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Thursday, Dan Matthews, Sean Salisbury, Tripoli, Emmanuel Elmore rockets our
playoff bound, clinching a top six seed in the Western
Conference playoffs. Beating the Jazz last night one one five,
Astros lose six to three to the Giants get swept
in this series. They start a series a little bit
later on this afternoon against the Twins in Minnesota and Texas.

(00:46):
A and M finds out Chris Beard will not be
their next head coach. He's staying at ole Miss. And
with all that say, good morning, good morning, yeah man,
I uh, with that Chris Beard thing. Talked to Fran
for Shilly yesterday about it and he thought it was
a great idea great hire if they would have done it.
And it's they've got a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
But you know what, I like the fact that Chris
Beard said ole Miss believed in me, and he's and
he's staying right now, which means he's going to get
a pay raise, which you know, there's always that thing too,
but that would have been a great get by A
and M. It really would have, because the guy wins
everywhere and he gets it, and he's a Texas guy,
and he understands the recruiting foundation. He understands that this

(01:28):
is a great basketball state as well underrated it comes
to the national it really is. So but Ole Miss,
that's that's a great keep by Ole Miss. That's a
coach who could enter the transfer portal in a lot
of places and you' to hire him because his team's
instantly went. Doesn't matter where he goes. They win and
with the money they have an opportunity they have at
A and M. And Buzz did a good job, and

(01:49):
I don't blame him for going to Maryland. I get it.
But now now the search is on for who their
second choice is. And I think it was pretty obvious
that they wanted, you know, Chris Beard and he'll but
it's it's kind of nice that somebody just doesn't jump
because they would have paid him and it would have
been much easier for him, just like, Okay, I'm close

(02:10):
to home again. You know, he's a Dallas guy, So
I uh, that's an old mis win by keeping somebody
in him, not jumping into the portal. Good on them.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Let me go ahead and quash this right now for
A and M fans that might throw this out there.
Kelvin Samson will not leave Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So oh no. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
I was gonna say, if there's anyone out there who says, oh, well, hey,
look what we could offer him here, I'm like, no,
he's already got that at U of H. And then more,
I mean, he talked about that the other day to
Sean where I mean they got there in twenty fourteen.
I mean, and I mentioned the video that U of
H put out of him going around campus with a bullhorn. Hey,
come the haw Finds pavilion. We really want you there.
I mean, I understand it's a dingy building. He didn't

(02:47):
say all that, but at least you know, we need
your support behind the program. And now all of a sudden,
I mean, you see his own video as they're leaving
yesterday for seeing Antonio all the people out there on
home then that we're waiting for them to board the
buses and get going to San Antonio. I mean he's
kind of looking at it and saying, all right, mission accomplished.

(03:08):
This is what we've set out to do. Yeah, I
don't believe.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Excuse me, and I don't care if it's Kentucky, I
don't believe. I don't care if it's a blue blood program.
I'm not even talking about A and M, but A
and M two. I don't believe that Kelvin Sampson takes
another college job. That's my opinion. I think he loves
the family atmosphere they have here. He's built something special.

(03:34):
He's turning it into a destination spot for five star players.
He gets the transfer of the portals there, he knows
how to use it wisely, and they're you know, a
couple of their transfers are a big part of what
this team's doing. I think people like to stay. I
mean I do. There's just certain guys that are made

(03:54):
for certain programs, and I don't think this was ever
a bridge for Kelvin Sampson, and I think he's built
it in. He knows every I mean, good gracious for
the last four or five years. Every year going in,
we feel like they're a Final four type team, Elite eighteen.
They are a powerhouse now. So I get it, and
I can understand. Somebody says, dude, we'll pay you twelve
million bucks a year to come be here. I get

(04:16):
the temptation my guy, and I could be completely wrong
just in my conversations with him, in the way he
goes about his business. I don't think Calvin Samson's looking
for another college job now. I don't know if he
ever wants to go and coach be a head coach
in the NBA. Put it this way, and there's no
disrespect to Texas, A and M at all. This ain't

(04:37):
the first time somebody's trying to get Kelvin Sampson. Because
when a job opens up and you start to think,
who can come in and take care of this and
do it the right way, the way we want it done.
His name When you go, oh, this guy, this guy
like for inch, Bill Self's never leaving Kansas when Bill
Self's done, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I when Texas's job came open, I was like, how
are you not making it?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
There's certain jobs it will always tempt I've told you
the story before I talked to I was having lunch
one day and be with three coordinators in the NFL,
And maybe I haven't told you this three coordinator We're
having lunch and talking about jobs and I just be
in the interview guy that I have in my system.
I said, all right, and I know them all, I said,

(05:21):
And they are all three college offensive coordinators and they've
been in the NFL at times as well. I said,
were you give me the in your in order, top
three jobs that you would take and leave where you're
at to go be the head coach if you had
your wish list, what would be the top place? And
to a man, they all said, they gave their third

(05:44):
and two and you know who number one was? All
three of them for obvious reasons. Money, location, recruitings, all
the things that go on. And I would think that
even though Texas would not be considered blue blood basketball
program because of it's not like they've won five national championship,
it's still considered a powerhouse because of the recruiting everything.

(06:09):
He got, the money and the support and that whole thing.
It's University of Texas. So maybe maybe guys like Calipari
and the Bill's self, now, somebody if Kams went and
fired him and he feels like he has five, six, seven, eight,
ten years of coaching left and then of course, but
I don't think he's going to walk away from that
gig to go coaching UST and I think that's the

(06:31):
way with Calvin Sampson. And you could say, well Man
University of Houston, look what he's built. But they're what
about Duke, what about North Carolina? What about you know,
what about UCLA schools like that, true blue blood programs.
I don't think Calvin would leave for that. I think
he likes this and I don't think that I can
tell you at this stage. While everybody likes to get paid,
I don't think Calvin Sampson's doing this job for money.

(06:54):
Now we all say what we say. I'm talking about
it is the top priority. It's it's not his soul motivos, right.
I don't think you can sustain great success as a
player or a coach when it's just about when money
is the number one on the list. Sure, that's why
these these transfer portal even with kids, If you're simply
going to a place because the money, I don't believe

(07:19):
you're in it. I don't believe you can handle or
have long term success. I just don't. Some guys may
be unique athletes, but as an eighteen year old kid,
he's like I like, oh yeah, I want to go
all this, all this, but I'll say no, no, no, I'm
not going to any of those places unless you pay me.
And then as willing to jump just for the money,
I don't. I don't for once. And if you can

(07:41):
be talked out of your deep in your soul that
you've got a school you want to go to, you've
loved it, you love the coach, you love everything, and
then all of a sudden somebody offers you two hundred
thousand more to transfer to their school and you go.
That tells me, not the top priorities money And I
understand why people, but if that's the driving force, it's
hard in my life. If money was the only for
the top priority all the time, how could you do

(08:02):
your gig every day? It'd be easy to I mean,
you just can't sustain it. I don't know anybody that can. Now.
If that, when I say driving force, if that's the
you've been broke your whole life and money is the
driving force to get you to It's not even the money,
it's the what money allows you the freedom to do
other things, to take a vacation, to not stress that part.
I get. We're all in it for we want to

(08:24):
have peace of mind, right and security. But I don't
think Kelvin Sampson. There's certain guys. I don't think the
temptation of ooh it's bigger and better and more nationally
in the microscope. I don't think that that's Coach Sampson's priority.
So I personally don't think you have enough money to
get him to go to your program. I'm not even

(08:45):
just talking about A and M. But listen, we say
that and then all of a sudden, somebody leaves, oh,
I got my dream job. But I think Coach Sampson's
built different. I think he likes the fact that if
he were to retire today, I believe that the University
of Houston would hire his son as the head coach.
I don't think there's any his son's, you know, by
all accounts, and listen to Coach Sampson to prepare and
talking about his son, but others that they feel the

(09:06):
same way. So I just think, and I don't think
he's coaching just to hold the seat warmth for his kid,
or he had already got out right, He's still got
plenty of good basketball and coaching and teaching in him,
and moments and memories so a m's going to be
a good gig, and I think we're probably all like, oh,
Chris Peter, why wouldn't he? But Ole Miss ain't a

(09:27):
bad gig either. They're pretty good this year, and a
lot of it has to do with that guy knows
how to go get players and coach him and teach him.
So I think Coach Sampson, I think Houston. I don't
think Houston has to worry about somebody coming in and
stealing him, but if somebody offered him quadruple the money,
you could understand him listening. But I think that Houston
was pretty close and for in Tillman and the group
there would say, now what does it take to keep you?

(09:48):
Because I'm just telling you? And because his son, I
don't know, woul his son go with him? Would he stay?
I would imagine he want his family to go. I
don't even know why we're talking about this. Is this
guy's in the final four. And I don't think Coach
Sampson is interested in any other gig. I'd be shocked
if he left.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Well, and I think the next step for him would
be exactly as you said, stepping away and saying that
I've done it all. But let's just say, for the
sake of argument, everything that he's built at U of
H is not It's not really easily replicated because it's
taken him a long time, and especially in the current
climate where I mean, you heard Jim Nancy the other day.
Our guys stay one transfer Milo Suzanne, he goes somewhere else,

(10:25):
he goes to even A and M. You've got guys
who've already jumped out. I mean, remember John Calipari last
year of I spoke with the team. Here's the thing,
there is no team. I mean, that's what he would
be running into of all right, well, I got to
go to square one again, basically where I was in
twenty sixteen. I'm kinda gonna be there again, maybe a
couple of years ahead of that, but there's still gonna

(10:45):
be some foundation.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Building money to these kids. Now, just the money talk,
and I know money matters, but since that's become the
driving force of the transfer portal, make no mistake, it's
not because you want to go. Money's the driving force, period.
And when the driving force is money, and it's more
important than the legacy or blue blood. If you had

(11:07):
eight family members that went to Kentucky. Yet Louisville's offering
you two hundred and fifty thousand more in the transfer portal.
Guess what? Yeah, So that right then and there tells
you even the blue bloods are not immune to you.
Wake up, Indiana. Do they have a roster? Do they
have any players? I'm just telling you wake them for people?

(11:29):
Don't I mean that well? Indiana. Indiana has been a
blue blood program for a long time. This is a
been a great basketball program. It's had its down times,
but the Who's your basketball is big time. I'm just
using them as an example. They've been more dormant over
the last few years. But your points so old. But
for the right right that there when you you understand,
especially in that state, or that you you understand or
if you're a little older, that Indiana Assembly Hall is

(11:51):
a play. When you talk about assembly Hall, it's in
the Allen Field House, the Polster That that's a place, right,
the Pauly Pavilion, that's a place. But when those schools
have to worry about keeping their roster, why would you leave?
When Kelvin Sampson's create somethinghere, those guys want to come
play for him. Yeah, I think University of Houston is

(12:12):
pretty safe with the head coach we got now and
more importantly, we got one hell of a Final four
coming up, Yes we do.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Coming up on Saturday, You of h will be the nightcap,
as Auburn and Florida are gonna be the first game
out of the gate there on Saturday in San Antonio.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
We mentioned the Astros. We'll get into them.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
The Rockets clinching a spot last night in the Western
Conference playoffs top six seeds, So that's something that maybe
we'll weave into the conversation. Seven one three, two one
two five, seven ninety the number to jump aboard with
us this morning as we're just getting going here on
the Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Let's go, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Real quick here, Sean, before we get into some astros,
the Rockets, I mean, you know, what, what can you
say about this season? I think that a lot of
people probably if we were back in August September, Hey,
how do you think the Rockets are gonna do this year?
Playing round is a good possibility. I mean, you haven't
been in the playoffs in over five years, and I

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mean you had a roster of young, promising talent, but
unproven talent in the places that you didn't necessarily want
to be unproven, and they find themselves at a fifty
one spot that they haven't been in some time. I
think twenty nineteen was the last time they eclipse this number. So,
I mean, being able to get to that point, hats

(13:36):
off to im A Yudoka and his staff.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, isn't it? Don't we love? Sometimes going into a season,
you can't judge success, especially on a young team when
you're just trying to hit the coach where we on
is second year now? Yeah? Number two? Yeah, a year
two they went from low to mid twenties wins wise
to forty one last year. That's a quantum leave. That's huge.

(14:00):
I mean, and in eighty two game schedule when you
add six fifteen, sixteen seventeen wins, that's pretty impressive, especially
your first year as a coach and a bunch of
young players. So that's one. Two is they've gotten better
of a year under him, which is two years I know,
and it's not a small sample size anymore. The impact

(14:21):
and it's not just the wins. What I was going
to say is you don't just judge early on. Okay,
wins and losses. Eventually that's the only barometer, right getting
to the playoffs, winning championships, wins and losses. But as
you're building it, you got to give them some leeway
to at least put their stamp on it. And his
stamp is obviously you're going to play defense. Kind of

(14:41):
reminds you of another guy in this town. It's in
San Antonio. He was asked about less exactly right, going
to play defense. You're going to be disciplined. I'm going
to tell you exactly how I feel if it hurts
your feelings. Tough, and a guy who commands respect without
even opening his mouth, and when he does, you listen.
So and he's a good teacher basketball. And as I say,

(15:02):
anytime I mentioned coaches, and if I don't mention buy
in with the place, that means that tells you that
I don't believe that that an organization or a college
or high schools bought into what their coach is teaching.
I do believe that here and to go from that
now not only but a playoff, but a threat. It's
not just you kind of Walt Waltston and like we

(15:24):
had a play in game in the n C two
A tournament, you got in and beat somebody, and then
you get your ass kicked the next one by a
one seed. They're they're they're relevant, and what they're doing
is opening eyes. And if you're a team that's got
to play them in the playoffs, this isn't like, oh,
they just barely got and we're kicking their ass. This
you got to take notice. Because they can score, they

(15:45):
can defend. They've got a mix of veterans who've who've
seen big games and in particular one championships as has
you know, I mean he put a championship team together
in Boston. Yeah, you think they win that last year
without his tutelism. That's exactly what, right, So it's pretty impressive,
and it is now I don't know, I can tell

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you right, And they've already exceeded my expectations. I didn't
expect him to get forty one wins last year after
what happened. You know, I understand if you increased it
five or six or seven on was, but it was
big double digits wins from one year to the next
and then getting into this year. As we said at
the beginning of the year. When it started on this show,
it was like, well, you know, if they make the
playoffs or can find their way in, I think that's

(16:28):
a big win of a season. Well that we're there.
And now, I don't think that their philosophy, right, I
wouldn't think when they're talking, they're talking, well, okay, we
made it. Take a deep breath. I think they think
they can be impactful, and that's more important than us
thinking it. It's been an impressive season. I'm going to
tell you this, He's not going to be Coach of
the Year probably, but I he sure as hell deserve

(16:49):
some votes. Oh and he'll get some. Yes, I don't
think there's any doubt about that. And you talking about
you know, you haven't made it yet.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I mean he was asked last night about well, you know,
you're in the top six resting players.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
He goes.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Seeding hasn't been decided. We want that number two, of course,
so a week and a half left to go in
the season, we want to be able to clinch that.
And now they're three games in front of the Lakers
with five to go.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'm not convinced that if they were the number two
seed with a two game lead in the two seed.
I'm not convinced that he'd take that he'd I don't
think he wants to take the competitive juices away from
these guys either. I mean, if you had that situation,
you want to get your guys rest and not overload them.
I get that, right. But I think that he understands
and certain teams need more rest or need more micromanaging

(17:31):
and coaching. Some teams don't. And I think he realizes
that he's at a point where you got to stay
on top of them because they're still young finding their
way and he's only here two years or five years
from now. We may have to worry about it. The
veterans police themselves, but I don't think that he wants
to let and it's easy for younger players to fall
into the oh we got this mode. It just it.

(17:54):
That's human nature.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
I think you saw that earlier on in the season
with that six game losing stream.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
No doubt, and then stayed the course and do it.
And I know that's such an overused I got to
stay the course, But if you believe in what you're
teaching and what's been successful for you, it's it's a
very true statement. So I'm with him, and I don't
think did His goal is we got there? Cool spot
time I get a haul passed, because I've really improved
this team two years agrow. I think he's thinking, I

(18:21):
want to win a freaking championship and win the Western Conference.
And I know some people say, come on now, well,
if i'd have told you they were going to get
the fifty wins this year, well just said, oh, I
would have done back. But you'd also said, Sean, let's
not go overboard. Right. No, it's like I said.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I mean, if you'd asked me last August what my
expectations were, i'd have said, play in.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Maybe you're a six, maybe you're a five. How many
winds they got right now? Fifty, that's exactly right. How
many wednes they have last year forty one and the
year before. You want to think about this, it's basically
a double. They've doubled their wins in less than two years. Right,
we're not done with season yet, doubled their wins in
less than two years. In truth, tell me who deserves

(19:06):
Coach of the Year more.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
I mean, I would think him, but I mean it's
probably going to be Mark Daniell or if that's how
you say his name, I don't even know how you
say it, but anyway, it's probably gonna be the OKAC coach.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And I get it. My point is, has he done
a better job than he may have dok He's done
a hell of a job. I can But what I'm
saying is I can make the argument that if Udoka
won it, and you look at the body of work,
how could you argue? Now I know some said, well, okay, see,
and I get it. Same way here. If if Oklahoma
City goes on and wins it and shake Gildess, Alexander

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wins the MVP, although the best player in the NBA
is Nicola Jokic, make zero mistake about it, and shake Gildes.
Alexander's a machine and probably well get the MVP fatigue
and he's probably gonna win it. But Joki is having
a better season than his previous two m vps. And
if if Lebron or Lebron's kid, or somebody in the

(20:00):
Lakers or in Boston or the Knicks would have done
what Nicola Yolkic did two nights ago, sixty one, ten
and ten, you would they would be leading it for
seven straight days, and so it's just said I digress,
but make no mistake, So Oklahoma City and if their
coach wins Coach of the Year, right, I get it,

(20:21):
one one seed, the hell of a season. But you
couldn't complain with the way it's turned around. You're literally
talking double the wins in less than two years. Pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Well, I mean, and you know I butchered the Okase
coaches name. I mean, honestly, i've what you call him,
Mark Daniel, I think is however you say it, I'm
sure somebody will correct me.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
But I mean, as you were talking, what I was
keying into my computer was I don't even know who
the coach is of the Cleveland Cavaliers. It's Kenny Atkinson.
I mean, they've done impressive work, but I mean to
the point, he's done a hell of a job. He has,
and he's been as good as a he's been as
impressive in the East. It feels to me like EMA's
done with this team. He's been impressive because you didn't

(21:06):
have them on your Bengo card, not even calling the.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
End of the season. It's exactly right, man, He's done
a hell of a job and he's been there and
turned it around and deserves every single pat on the
back you can give it.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
But the point is that I'm making is, even though
we pay more attention to ima Udoka here, I think
that probably that would even permeate into the national landscape
of you know, yeah, it's impressive what JJ's done out
in LA. It's impressive what Kenny Atkinson's done there. But boy,
look at what Houston's done. I mean the player improvements,
I mean the overall offensive consistency. Even though it's not

(21:37):
necessarily to the level we want. With a guy like
Jalen Green, he's still taking a step forward this year.
Alburn's taking a step forward, and Ben Thompson definitely has.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
And so it's not just team impact. But in order
to get good team play, you got to have individuals
taking care of their business, and they've all got That's
another way if I'm judging, I'm the owner of the
general manager judging how my coach does team wins. That's
why I said it begins sometimes early on. It's not
just about team wins, about improvement. You could actually be
a better team and not have won fifty games this

(22:06):
year forty two, forty one you say, man, we should
have won more, but you but when you see improvement,
you say, okay, but wait, these guys all now understand
how it's to work as a team. But not only
is a team improved And like I said, double the
wins in the last couple of years. I think they
had twenty two to twenty three wins the last year
of Silas I think in low twenties and then bam

(22:30):
to do this. So you've you've doubled up and in
the process your players have improved. This is and they're
I actually don't think they even know how good they
can and are going to be as long as they
continue to play as if they're they're an average team.
They I mean, their their performance is better, but thought

(22:51):
process of people look at us like we're average. So
how do you know when it's it's I always say
like this, play like a starter, train like a backup,
meaning if you're the backup and you're training, what's your goal.
I want to be the starter. I want to lead
this team in any sport. So what do they do?
You train a little harder. I got to catch up
to the one game. So with these guys, when you're
out there play like a bunch of stars and play
like a starter. But when you're away doing lonely work

(23:13):
when nobody's watching, then all that training you put in
and train like a backup trying to win the job.
And when they both come together, you get fifty wins
and a chance to impact the Western Conference. And here
they are.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Emai Doka calls those guys the stay ready crew. That's
that's what those guys are, and they definitely have performed
when ass this year. So basketball Siberia no longer the
case around here, and that is doing large parts of
the work by ima A, Dooka and rafel Stone. All right,
if you want to get in on the rockets, absolutely,
it's fair game since we've covered it someone three two, one, two, five,

(23:47):
seven ninety. But coming up next, definitely want to get
into the astros two and four the panic meter, time
to press it, that's next right here.

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(24:15):
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The Sewn Salisbury Show continued, but to wrap up the
Rockets conversation, Billy wants to weigh in here on the
Sewn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Billy, what's up?

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Hey, good morning guys. It's more of a coaching comment
and question than just Rockets. But I've noticed with going
with the NBA the importance of the head coach and
how his staff develops players. We watch these kids come
up and turn into what they've turned into. I remember
watching a team come up and the development that they

(25:56):
went through with him taking a soccer player and turning
Mitch a Hall of Fame basket player. But what I
was my question really is, uh, the importance of the
head coach or manager to me? And if I'm wrong,
I'm wrong, But is it seems like the NFL has
the big the most important coaches because there's not just

(26:17):
one thing going on at a time. NBA, they're working
as a five person unit on the field. The manager
has to ascuse me, the head coach has to coordinate that.
And in baseball, if you've got a good GM and
a manager who can manage the the pitching staff, then
you got you got success because there's a lot of
individual things that have to go on other than that.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
When that's where the GM comes in.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
But am I wrong on that that the NFL, then
the NBA, then MLB in that order, has the most
important head coach.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I think coaching is probably in most cases underrated. Yet
you can give me a great coach with bad talent,
average talent, he'll get fired eventually. Usually now you'll get
the one that knows and he's right about the development
of players in house. That's why I continue to say

(27:14):
head coach gets all the credit, like in the NFL
or the NBA or Major League Baseball, but the assistants
do quite frankly, most of the work. Yeah, Now that
head coach did all that work as an assistant leading
up and then he becomes the CEO and he just
kind of makes sure he coaches his coaches and they
do their job. It's the assistants that spend most of
the time, but you're also coaching those coaches as the

(27:35):
head coach or manager at any of these pro sports,
to teach it the way that you'd like it taught
with their spin on it, to make sure it's done right,
and then you empower them to do the thing. I personally,
I think the practices in the offseason. I think with
superstars in the game, I think that the NBA coaching

(27:56):
now Baseball with the DH and all that, the strategy
and he right about if you manage a pitching staff
then and get the lineup right, and the general manager
feeds you great prospects. In baseball, probably because it's a
slower game. Basketball and football it's just every single you know,
you're running up and down the court. And football there's
the coordinator has to call play. You don't know. It's

(28:16):
a guessing game, the guessing and it's a guessing game
with eleven guys and counting the coordinator in In baseball,
it's a guessing game pitcher, pitcher, hitter. Yeah, and you
know you're not worried about the center fielder coming up
and hitting you in the mouth while you're trying to
hit a baseball, right. So I honestly think I think
college basketball coaching and I'm using college with it, and

(28:38):
I don't know if he was mentioning both, but I
think college basketball coaches are more impactful on their program
than NBA coaches. I think a lot of times, and
maybe this is wrong. You'll get a guy like Udoka
Popovich right that are so into the teaching and discipline
that you get buying. And I'm not saying it doesn't matter,
because coaching does. You can see it right here, look

(28:59):
at the different it's made. I think it matters more
than we know at all levels. Anybody says our coaching
is overrated is wrong, then you haven't been coached, is
my point. And they can bring out It's not even
just the motivation, it's the discipline to do it right,
try to do it right all the time. And I
think Udoka has it. But I also think there's a
perception and I think we buy into it, and I
think I do as well. If I got Golden States

(29:23):
players and this is made to be disrespectful, and I
know he's a good coach, and it'll end up in
the Hall of Fame as a coach with those with
the players that Golden State has. I think they didn't
won an NBA championship even if Steve Kerr wasn't their coach.
They seem like David I could have got chicked. I
believe I could have got fifty. If Mark Jackson stays
with that talent. They're winning an NBA championship in spite

(29:45):
of him, even if he wasn't good. If you I'm
just certain it's just gonna happen now when you say
it's like, what do you mean? Kurrzy impact was felt
because they've kept him there and he kept the group
together for a long time. And I'm not saying I'm
not taken away from him, but come on, when mad
and Abdul Jabbar and James Worthy and pat Riley and
it was difference for Phil Jackson with his group, do
you think maybe one of the assistants could have coached

(30:07):
him to an NBA finals probably now, to get him
over and sustain consistency. Phil Jackson power right, They're different,
and I do believe in it. I don't think in
game coaching for a head coaching, I think a lot
of times we say the superstar comes over says, give
me to basketball. Fine, anyway you draw it up and
put the ball in his hands. I think it's more
player finished than coaches, and I do now they design it.

(30:29):
And I actually think the impact of college basketball coaches
and college football coaches may even be more because you've
got a babysit along the way too. You're still dealing
with kids. I believe that. But yes, coaching is huge,
and the development of the players is and he hit it.
That's exactly the key. Once you develop him and trust him,

(30:50):
Like Clint Hurdle told us the other day, even in baseball,
get out of their way, get in the back seat
and let them drive. And I think in the NBA
that is a star driven sport. It's what it is.
And so the coach is just to help meet along
the way, in my opinion, and then develop when he
needs the discipline or develop. But listen, if you're coaching
Tim Duncan, Monogenobli, Tony Parker and the group, David Robinson.

(31:14):
I'm not saying Pop's not a great coach, because he is.
But you see the difference when he doesn't have players.
They see what I'm saying. So it's about the player
The coach is the one who adds to it, enhances it,
or tears it, breaks it down. But most coaches I
know that don't have great talent. They may develop them

(31:34):
and then they want to Why do you think they're
always afraid to trying to get great talent? They know
without the talent, those coaches get fired. To your point,
talent will extend average coaches. We don't have an average
coach here, but I'm just saying so, I don't know
where they fit in as far as the importance, I
think coaching is hugely important, but I think in the NBA,
quite frankly, it's more superstar driven than it is coaching

(31:54):
driven most of the time. Oh We've seen countless examples.
If you don't get out of the way, well then
eventually the superstar says, hey, this guy he sucks, get
him out of here.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I want him gone. I mean, I can give individual names,
but we know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Lebron himself is responsible for a lot of coaching extensions
and big money, and he's also responsible for quite a
few firings. Yeah, and regardless of what he tells you
that no, I had no idea, he's full of crap.
You're telling me he had no idea. They want to
hire JJ Redick. Big. JJ Redick was hired because Lebron

(32:29):
James also championed his costs. If Lebron James would have said,
if you hire him, I'm done. JJ Redick would not
be the head coach at the Los Angeles Lakers period.
So to me, while coaching does matter, Popovich, Riley, you know, Spolstra,
Steve Kerr, I'm still winning when they're in their prime.

(32:50):
The Golden State Worriors still have a championship, or more
like they do have. If Steve Kerr is not the
coach and Mark Jackson is now, they may have not
won as many, or they may have had a little
more fighting in houses respect maybe I don't know, but
they still would have won. Now, Steve Kerr doesn't have
an NBA title if all of his players are one

(33:11):
star and just a bunch of guys, Steve Kerr doesn't
have an NBA title right now.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Well, I mean, look at where Golden State is right now.
I mean they're at the bottom of this six in
the Western Conference.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And hanging on because their guards still a phenomenal player.
Right So I'm convinced while coaching matters immensely. I actually
think that in NBA basketball, I watched guys goviing I'm
not talking about here. At times they go over to
the thing, they'll be looking at the stands and not paying.
And then because we know the star's touching it. If

(33:43):
you're playing Oklahoma City, who's getting the ball in the
last possession, Shay And now he made dish to somebody else,
but he's getting the ball. So it's superstar driven in
the NBA, in my opinion, more than coaching. Give me
a great coach with average talent, that coach will be
fired eventually. Give me a good coach with great talent,
they'll win championships. Give me a coach that you say

(34:04):
has been fired four times, just doesn't fit in, and
you've got great players, they will still be in contention
to win a title. I assure you, great coach, bad players,
that coach will be looking for a new gig. Fortunately,
when you've got a good coaching, good players, then you
end up being pat Riley. Hopefully may Udoka here as
you can see the difference. But his development and getting
them to stay sustained and buy in different. That's where

(34:25):
the coaching comes in in development on the practice court
and what you need from them. But come game time,
I actually think coaches are the least impactful in the NBA.
I think it's a superstar that's impactful and the players.
It's all of those sports. It's managing personalities. That's really
what it is. I mean, you know, to your point,
it's the assistant coaches doing the majority of the leg work.

(34:45):
I mean, you might have a pet project here and there,
but for the most part, it's those guys that you
have to trust to be able to help shepherd those
guys along. So all right, so let's get into some
astros next. As I mentioned two and four, but the
bats still remains silent.

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Speaker 4 (37:05):
Astros conversation as the Rockets and you know the call
by Billy kind of held over the conversation in the
first segment. But the Astros yesterday losing as I just mentioned,
and I mean it's yet again another game where the
bats are just not there. And I mean it was
nice to see Jordon sort of get going. But as

(37:28):
I mentioned last night on the ten tending show singles
out of Jordon is not the exception or it's not
the expectation.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Excuse me.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
It's nice to see that he puts lumber on the baseball,
but when it comes to Jordon, you're talking extra base
hits and more importantly, you're talking baseball's over the wall.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, and here's what you're going to get. As we
talked about yesterday, how many hits the get yesterday too? Right, Bingo,
where do you play left field? And where's his struggles been?
Dh even though he's hit when he's played left field,
and he's hit in his career when he's daged, there's
gonna be this. We gotta put him in the left field.
He feels more comfortable. Right, You're going to get that,
even if we already I didn't look at Astro's Twitter

(38:07):
or any of that, but you're going to get some
of that from this. And maybe maybe he does want
to be out there and stewing over it. But the
guy's had success at both. But the slugging, I mean,
do we really think that he's not going to slug?

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Right? Dude?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Are we really concerned that at some point that he
is not all of a sudden going to erupt and
go five home runs in eight days. It's the if
and win, and he is always a win, right, that's it.
It's not a matter of if. It is a matter
of win, and it will happen. My concern over the
one hundred and sixty two games, and I know he's
had his his moments, and Gordy talked about it. Jordan

(38:45):
doing what Jordan does. He can't drive in eighty runs.
He's got to drive in one hundred and he's got
to hit two eighty five, and he's got to hit
forty home runs. That's who he is, thirty five forty
home runs. But he'll stumble into a handful, he'll stumble
into two eighty and he will see even if he's
not at his best, and he's going to hit thirty
home runs with one eye closed, I believe. But early
in the season, it's if this was happening in June

(39:10):
six game stretch, he's not slugging the ball, get in line.
That happens to everybody. It would kind of get mixed
in in the season. On a September run, when you're
chasing a not only a pennant, but a division title,
heightened beginning of the season. Coming out of spring training,
everybody's pumped up. Your eye hyper sensitive to everything, and

(39:31):
the struggle. If he was kicking ass down, struggled in June,
we'd all say, Okay, he's going through that six to
seven game stretch. It's going to happen. My concern is
not your Don Alvarez over the course of a season. Now,
if this continues into the middle of the season and say, man,
what's going on with the power numbers? Is he the
first thing we'd say, is he hurt? Something wrong with
the lower half. Is a knee? Okay, that's how we'd think. Sure,

(39:51):
I got to get yin da swing in to bat,
I got to get paina all the talk and we
saw it coming out of spring training and sitting with
him before he left us training in person is like
this is it's different. He's got a different field. It's
six games, but his his spring training doesn't look anything,
or his regular season doesn't look like we saw on
spring training. That's got to get going because spring training

(40:13):
doesn't mean a hill of beans. If you're hitting one
twenty Ianer Diaz has got to pick it up. Al
Twovey's doing his thing. You know, we're waiting on Rogers
to get rolling and parades to to and he's going
to be fine, You're going and you know, Christian Walker
to drive the ball. We're waiting on. I know we're
all enamored with hitting the ball over the fence, but

(40:36):
in truth, if you're hitting singles and you're not driving
runs in with some extra base hits, then we go
back to the default system, which is the false system.
Is wotting up, is going on with the long ball
and driving the ball and getting hitting it in gaps
and extra base hits, and it it feels like it's
a passive aggressive team right now at the plate and

(40:57):
they're getting curbs by opponent's pitching. They just are I
know they scored three runs yesterday, but still it doesn't
look the way you want it to look.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Well, I do think that there was and we'll carry
this over, but I mean I do think that yesterday
there was a little bit of pressing too hard. If
you want to say that's being overly aggressive. I mean
you mentioned YANR.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Diaz. Aggressive and pressing are two different things. To me.
You start to squeeze it out. I know what you're saying,
you start to squeeze the dust out of the bat
and you start swinging it. It pitches that to me is
desperate desperation that you start to get desperate, because once again,
the hypersensitivity early in the season, it's not when I
say passive aggressive, it's that okay. Aggressive to me is

(41:41):
when you know you can cut it loose and you
don't fret anything. The passive aggressive part of you know,
if you feel a little bit, you know it's early
in the season. You're at home every game right now,
people are seeing it. The frustration kicks in. It's early
in the season, so we're all hyper sensitive to seeing it.
So what desperation does is what it's like in a draft.
If you draft out of desperation in the NFL, you're screwed.

(42:02):
If you start swinging the bat out of oh my gosh,
we're not driving it. So what you chase a little
bit outside the strikeson. You squeeze the bat a little harder.
As a quarterback, when you throw two picks in the
first quarter, in my life, you're resisting, want to throw
a third. Squeeze it a little harder. Try a little harder.
Doesn't mean you're not aggressive, but the passive where you're
like a little hesitant and one split second at the plate,
one split second and making decisions and you're late, or

(42:24):
you throw an interception, or you're late in the strike
zone and a guy throwing ninety two instead of ninety
eight up still gets you. And I think that's where
they're at right now. But the hyper sensitivity of at
home early season, not driving the ball and you're getting beat,
that's a frustrating thing. And it's the way they're getting
beat that's bothersome.

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Speaker 4 (44:42):
Rockets are a top six seed at the worst in
the Western Conference playoffs. To beat the Jazz last night
to clinch it also get their fiftieth win. Astros in
Minnesota to take on the Twins after getting swept by
the Giants losing yesterday six to three, and you of
h another day closer to Saturday in San Antonio against
Duke for the final four. We'll talk a little bit

(45:04):
of Koog's later on in the show, but continuing the
Astros conversation. You know, Sean, there's a guy that I
follow on Twitter and he does a lot of New
Orleans stuff. He goes by Hold the Mayo is what
he goes by, and he'll do a postgame call in
show for his YouTube, and it's pretty funny to listen
to Saints fans just go crazy yelling about Derek Carr

(45:27):
whatever it might be. But he has a line that
I think applies to some of the Astros hitters right now,
and that is can't find it with a search warrant,
because that's the way it looks for guys like Jinar Diez,
Christian Walker. Good at bats in the Mets series, but
that did not carry over into these last three Chas McCormick,

(45:48):
I mean, you saw a guy yesterday, Sean on a
three to one count. And I understand, it's a high
nineties fastball. It's not easy to hit. Even if it's
going straight, it's getting on you quickly, but you would
think three to one, you've got to be thinking this
guy needs to come in here with something. I'm sitting
dead red fastball. He's laid on it, and then he
completely swings through the next one, and I mean, I'm

(46:08):
just looking at it, and I'm just like, God, Chaz, like, dude,
help yourself. Help yourself, dude, Like give yourself every opportunity
to stay here, cause it's kind of getting to the point.
And you saw the last two games they played him
out in center field because of what you're not getting
from Jake Myers. You know offensively, what you're going to get,
obviously in this case, what you're not going to get
from him.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But I mean, it's just.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Kind of really underscoring what the issues have been the
first six games. Is I think it's a sum of
a lot of fears with this team. There's a lot
of holes in this.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Lineup, and don't you now you understand aside from an
impressive performance, and he's young and he's still he's going
to have his struggles, which he has, but he'll they
see the forest through the trees. There's a reason camp
Smith starts in rightfield for the most part. They'll protect him,
as Dana Brown said yesterday, to a point. But you're

(46:57):
scrambling around and the question you're going to ask yourself
is this offseason did they right now? Did they do
a good enough job of going out and trying to
find a bopper in the outfield? But we've been asking
that for two or three years. You think you really
have probably well and with Kyle Tucker and he's gone
now you did not replace him. Now you're thinking camp

(47:18):
Smith's going to be a star, and I think we
all believe that he's not a star yet, and he's
it's going to take a minute to get him, you know,
dealing with it, and he's not going to be a superstar.
By the end of the year, he may end up
being like, WHOA, He's gonna give you some wow moments,
but it's going to take a minute. But these these
are the reasons, like you said, should be sitting dead
red three to one, can't be late. All those things

(47:40):
are the reasons he's not starting now, meaning Chas McCormick,
and when he moved to center field two days there's
a reason. Is Jake Myers, while an elite defender, is
a below average hitter, and right now below average hitters
are rolling around in this lineup. They're not below average overall,
but they're is like I thought, Painia and Diaz guys

(48:03):
that you count on. It can't just be on yourd On,
although he's got to pick it up, and with two
hits yesterday maybe he will long ball wise, and it
can't just be on Altuve. But you see, we've said
from the beginning, man outfield production not named Altov is
going to be a problem this year offensively unless Cam
Smith can play like a veteran and not a rookie,

(48:23):
and hopefully he will. But I'm willing to let him
play through the stuff because I can at some point
in time the guy will be a star in this league,
I believe right now. So it's a weak point and
they've got to And so when that happens, and you
know there's some weaknesses in the bats in the lineup,
you have to get production from the guys at the
top six games in. But the only thing we got

(48:44):
to judge is six games, right, and so you're gonna
judge it. But that's the way it goes. And like
I said, it's the runs is one thing, but the
lack of the ball jumping off the bats another. And
then sometimes the head scratching moments that you're talking about
at the plate. So there's gonna come a moment. Maybe
it happens on this road trip, and maybe it happens

(49:04):
in these next three day games where they go bingo,
bango bongo and the bats light up and they go crazy,
and that'd be great. But while we're in it, since
it's the beginning of the season, it's a hard watch,
especially since they did this at home as opposed to
on the road to start the season. But they've got
to pick it up because once again, at two and four,
you don't want to be two and eight. You don't
want to be three and eleven, because then that pressure

(49:26):
to you're gonna put on yourself will grow.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Well, I mean you mentioned below average, they're not even
below average. They're awful right now.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's not trying to be
a kinder gentler, but you're wunning. But they suck right
now at the plate. If we're really they just do.
And Yiner Diaz has got to get back to swing
in that bat and Paina has got to apply pre
whatever spring training did for him. He's got to start
to carry that over offensively, because right now we don't
have your your Your first five or six or seven

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should be a murder's row. And you know, I'm not
saying twenty seven Yankees, but you get my point. It
should be exhaust on a pitching staff, and right now
it's not that exhausting on them.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I mean, we were talking about Yiner. I think it
was his third at bat yesterday. He gets a middle
in fastball that he takes for a strike, and then
the very next one was a slider that he did
that flailing one handed swing over and you're.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Just like, come on, and he had no shot.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
No.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
But the point is that I'm making with the first fastball.
Is that's a pitch that when he's going ashes. Yes,
absolutely so. I mean it's something we talked about a
couple of days ago. I don't know if it's just
they're not getting enough you know, live looks during the spring,
and that's what's kind of precipitating to. I mean, maybe
that is something after the season that Joe a Spot

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has to look into of, Hey, maybe I need to
give these guys that third at bat, even early on,
to really kind of get those juices going, because I mean,
yet again, Sean, it looked like, and I've said it,
they're two and four. As you mentioned, Sean, they could
very easily be owing six.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
There's no question if you don't get really good pitching performances,
they are in six and Frober Fromber was Frombert he
strike out nine. So there's those moments of man and
then there's the moments. The other it was he was
it was a very average performance for him walk some
people strike out damn near double digits. But then at

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times you made it too easy. I mean it was
that was that was that's not cy young Frobert, that's
the one that's like, oh up and down, I mean,
it's just it was a complete dow Jones. It's the
here he goes, yeah, yep, what's right, that's exactly right,
And how's he going to get out of this one?
And then then gets a strikeout and then walks a
guy and then gives up a hit. I mean, it's
like it's exhausting at times, but we know he's got

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great stuff. But the offensive productions absolutely has to improve.
And you don't have to tell me twice. I'd like
to know the disadvantage. I'm not just talking here, I'm
talking anywhere in baseball. I'd like somebody to convince to me.
I don't care if you're a ten or twelve year
veteran who's been an All Star eight times, either here
Bryce Harper, or if you're show hey, o Tani, explain

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to me why less at bats is better for these
players into spring training? You tell me what's exhausting about
a third at bat? So tell me what's exhausting if
you could get twenty or twenty five at bats against
you know, in game pitching, or forty five at bats
to tell me what's Tell me what well we don't
want to wear about. You tell me how wearing out.

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That'll be you're more mentally and physically and emotionally exhausted
hitting one twenty five in the regular season, then you
are taking sixty at bats in spring training. So I'd
like to know. I'd like to whatever the at bats are,
however much the MAXA, I'd like to know. You tell
me what the disadvantage is for a ten year veteran

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who's who's a Hall of Fame player Altuve. You tell
me what the disadvantage is for him getting more swings
during spring training. What's the disadvantage the bats not have
thirty two ounces or whatever it is. Tell me what
the disadvantage as well. I don't want over overwork them.
The walk from the from the the damn on deck
circle in the dugout to the plate. I've never I

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understand a running back taking hits all the time. Sure,
but you tell me in spring training why I'm if
a healthy player, Why I would limit Yiner diaz Is
at bats? Why I would limit Bryce Harper's at bats? Well,
he's a veteran. I don't care. Alex Bregman needs seven
thousand at bats in his spring trainings. Because the guys
asked the first month of every season. He couldn't hit

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his way off of te the first month season, and
then he gets going. Sometimes it's later than you want,
great player. I'm just talking about the start now. I
don't know if it would help him, maybe psychologically just
doesn't understand April. But I can tell you this, it
ain't gonna hurt. I didn't say two thousand at bats
where you're playing four and five. You're just playing in
every game. But what is the disadvantage of twenty five

(53:48):
more at bats in spring training? Tell me there is none? Yeah,
tell you? Are you wearing your arm out?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
No?

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Dham are you? Are you running around and having to
know you're swinging a baseball and getting different looks from
different pictures? So what's the disadvance this? We got to
do less and make more and preserve I'm not just talking,
I'm talking about all over sports. I just don't get it.
I do not get it. And if some of these
veterans slow starts aren't the perfect indication that and I

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know how much Bregman grinds. We all do. It's everybody
talks about it. No, he shows us in video, but
he's not afraid to let you know right, Okay, So
with that, maybe his grind needs to be that the
Red Sox stick him in the batter's box four at
bats a game for three at bats a game for
the majority of spring training to get him out of
the mode to whard spring training. By the inn of

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spring training he feels like he's had two weeks of
at bats in the regular season. Maybe get started sooner.
I just to me, this constant preservation, one hundred more
at bats over the course of four spring trainings is
not going to shorten your career. Matter of fact, it
may lengthen it. I've just never understood it. Well.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Astros need to nip it in the bud quickly, because
it doesn't seem like that it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
They are futud at the plate right now a team.
I mean across the board.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I mean it's the singles and solo home runs train
that continues, and I mean, yeah, that's the thing. You
look at the box score, you stay, oh, hey, they
out hit the Giants. Where are the extra base hits?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
So people hate small ball, right, yeah, now, good baseball
people don't because they know small ball is going to
end up sustaining you. Las Dana Brown said on this
show last year. I asked him, he goes he'd take
small ball over boppers all the time, because home run
hitters go through more slumps than people put the ball
and play. They just do, that's it, they go. Unless

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you're a guy who's a otani who it's three hundred,
you know, one of those guys. They're not normal. But
people put the ball in play. So if you are
a small ball team and you have to embrace it,
then you better be good at it. And right now
they're elementary school at it. Yeah, it's it's a team.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
That's just they're they're not doing the little things and
I mean they haven't done it for the last couple
of years.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
And it's it's it's not even warning track power right now.
The way they're the way they're hitting it, I mean
it's like they're hitting a nerf ball. We would take
warning track power right absolutely. I think we absolutely would.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
All Right, coming up next, if this is true, boy,
I really hope somebody doesn't act on it.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
We'll talk about that right here. Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Going non stop with former QB Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
All Right, Sean, what are you hearing out there?

Speaker 7 (56:28):
Now the Salisbury Stakeout, Salisbury's takeout on the.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Sports Tax seven ninety it is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Rockets get their fiftieth when they are in the top
six seeds of the Western Conference playoffs, Astros get swept
by the Giants. They're in Minnesota to take on the
Twins starting this afternoon. Sean, I'm assuming you've seen Raiders
of the Lost Arc right Indiana Jones probably forty eight

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thousand times, Okay, And yeah, I mean you remember what happened.
You know, they're trying to find the Lost Arc of
the Covenant.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
We finally found it. It's not in America, but we
know where it's at. Now. Well that's what they think. Yeah,
that's what they think.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
And that's where I'm going with this because Major Edward
Dames says that he used to work for the CIA
back in the nineteen eighties and he was part of
a secret army program that used individuals known as remote
viewers who claimed that they could see information distant objects, people, locations,
and it was part of the Stargate project, which ran

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from nineteen seventy Serey Lost Me just nineteen ninety five, oh,
it's getting there. But Dames told that he was recently
using his skills of remote viewing to track down the
arc of the Covenant. He claims that it's in the
Cave of the Patriarchs, which is in Hebron the West Bank,
and according to Jewish Christians and long traditions, it's also

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said to be the burial place of Abraham and Jacob.
But of course the Ark of the Covenant built of
gold by the Israelites after they fled Egypt in the
thirteenth century BC.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
And good scripture study. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, we
did it history, we did it all. We did it all.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
We've covered it soup to nuts. But these nuts, not
these nuts?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Is that sacrilegious to be talking about the Arc of
the Covenant and then throw these nuts in the middle
of the consta.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
The fact that it entered your mind is free wills.
So I mean that by itself would be you.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Know, okay, passable? Yeah, yeah, okay. So you're asking me,
do I believe it's there? Well, not only do you
believe it's there? Because the follow up here, should you
even want to find it? Well? Well, I don't know.
I think that the smart move would be. So this
guy saw, he liked the vision that he saw. That's
what he claims. Yeah, that it just came to him

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and that that's where it's at.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Now.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Well, first off, maybe we should send somebody there. And
I got the perfect person to send there, Harrison Ford. Ah,
he knows something about it for a role. Yeah, doctor Jim,
that's exactly right. Maybe he can call up Sean Connery
who's dead and if yeah, and find out if he'll
call him Junior and he failed to help direct him,
or maybe who else was in that movie over the

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course of time. Hasn't No, that was National Treasure Old
Joe Lee's husband, right, I mean Dad, yeah, John v Yeah,
that was national treasure. Never mind, so kind kind of
the same thing Declaration of Independence. Weren't they searching for them?
They found that? Right? Yeah? So yeah, get Connery, call
up Junior, get Harrison Ford on a plane, uh horseback,

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and let's go in there and check it out. And
if all of a sudden, snakes could come from everywhere
and a big boulder comes rolling down at you, Harrison
will know how to handle it. If we're gonna do it,
I mean, if we're buying into the guy visualized this
that he's got Jesus like skill set. God bless him.
I'm not making fun well I'm kind of making fun
of it, but not Jesus, but this guy. And maybe

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there are people out there that can see that that
it just comes to him, or maybe he had a
vision while he was sleeping. Okay, whatever biblical thing he did,
don't you think it would be funny as hell or
cool as hell if they went to look for it him.
They took Harrison forward with them. Why wouldn't you isn't
the what's what's the the uh? One? Gal's name? There

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was a different guy. What's the blonde name? Kate Capshaw?
They'll take her with us. She was one of the
and was she? I don't know she? Which was she?
And that was she in that one or one of
the I can't remember which one of the for her
she was in Shilah Buff was in one of them,
but regardless, Capshaw was in one. I'm so she'll have
an idea. Let's go, I forgot the mom from the Sandlot,

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Karen Allen. There you go. She's in a couple of them, right, ye,
so at least one of them, maybe a couple so yeah,
send Harrison Ford, let's go. And do I really want
to find it? Hell, yes, i'd like. I don't know.
I don't know if it's if it's all of a sudden,
you know, lasers shoot you in the neck, or knives
come out and cut your head off or something. But
if it ain't me that's going to something figured out,

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it's somebody else. Let them get their head shoved off.
We can find it. Here's the problem of team player, right,
I mean, I get worried about You're one that's more
willing to take risks, whereas I am a bit more
risk taker.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
I'm a little bit more risk averse. And in where
I'm going with this is I like the reward. Wow,
it comes with big risks. I can understand that. I mean,
you know, you'd have all the chalices in front of you.
Just make sure that you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Pick the right from the right one you chose Pully, Yeah, yeah,
just just make sure you're not that guy. Right, I
saw the visual. I think he'll take me right through
it the way he's supposed to lie. You know that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
That's the thing that when I was thinking about this
yesterday to bring here for the stakeout, I was like
a lot of people got melted in the indie franchises
because I mean you had that, you know, the guy
and the lady that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Shows the wrong one, and yeah, you chose correctly. Right
now with the guy with the chainmail, the old guy,
what are you worried about? I'm just worried about. You're
worried about you see in the movie that those things
could happen, absolutely, And who's to say it just stays
right there? I mean, whatever the hell is trapped in there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
If there is indeed spirits or whatever trapped in there,
who's to say they don't start running a rampant around
the world and it's basically a black hole here on
this on the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Well, well, you know, follows us up at my thing. Well,
then then we all go down together. What's the big
deal for going down? We may as well go down together.
Mike can't be at least, do you really want to
be alive with four of you after the apocalypse? Like
everything's burned? And Denzel Washington in the Biblical movie what's
the movie? He's uh walking across from the West Coast

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where he's uh, he's he's he's the Book of But yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that's uh book, the hell of a movie. So do
you really want to be one of five people left?
Do you want to rebuild the world if they're all
going down? World? Just go down with him, dude, Get
that that's the reward you get for it. But for me,
you let those spirits out. Maybe those spirits just need

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to be let out and go Hell, we've had elections. Okay,
we've had elections. We already know what the what? What
the nonsense is? How much worse can it get? So
for the apocalypse hits because because he found the arc
of the Covenant. My thing is in the big scheme
of things, like when you're sitting at the you know,
and you go to the good Lord at the end
and he talks about you know, opens up the the

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you know, like like you used to do at the
library to find out where your book is the card cattle.
That's exactly right, and he opens the card catalog and
they're one that all the good stuff you've done and
all the bad stuff you've done. And then he said
you would he applaud you? Or is it like the
ultimate your sacriles? Do you leave that alone or do

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you bring it back? And preserve it because you want
to make sure it's safe that somebody eventually was going
to get it. Do you want somebody else to find it?
Or do you want to see You're more worried that
the spirits are gonna come out and you're going to
fall into the earth.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Well, the response would be, Indy told you top men, right,
he told you top men?

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
How can you no disrespect to you? But you're not
one of those people? How can you go wrong with
Harrison Ford, a guy who saw the vision the vision
or in his ICCs where it's at. How can you
go wrong going there? I mean, isn't it worth the risk? Okay?
If they invited you to go, would you go?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
You would No?

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I don't want to be one of those people right
there on I do on the hillside. Can you imagine
me and Karen Allen don't look at the lights? Can
you imagine I, Okay as a soldier and this is
in real life? Would you have wanted to be on
was it Seal Team six? Was its Team six with
Ben Laden?

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Yeah? Would you have wanted to be on that? I
don't know? Tell me the truth, the truth? Would your
first initial thought if I say we're part of Team six.
We are going in to get that. Yeah, yeah, you
say yes. So you're not well because you take on
the responsible because you're in the military. How you say
because you not, but that you're afraid of the Ark
of the Covenant. I mean, the same result could happen.
People are shooting at you're trying to prevent you from

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getting to him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
But I feel like though i'd have the training and
at least you know the mental train.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
You're not even asking you to train. Yeah, for the
Ark of the Covenant. I was exactly asking you to
come along. Everybody will do the work. You just follow along.
Harrison Ford'll lead you right in. And if the world
if all this, the spirits come out and daggers start
coming and cobras start jumping up, and like I said,
the boulder starts rolling at you either run faster than
the boulder or take your take.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
The l But here's the thing though, if it goes sideways,
and I mean I would assume that we're all standing
in the line to get to Saint Peter, you'd have
somebody who finally, hey, that's the guy. Oh yeah, sure
you was, That's that's that you cross that's the guy,
that the reason why we're all here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Well, once you cross the threshold, you won't be sensitive.
You'll be at your when you cross the threshold, they'll
be making for that's the guy. And you're like, yeah,
I was that guy. It'll all be. We'll all be
happy for at least you took the chance. You know,
you take the chance. You know what I'm saying. So
for me, yeah, I think it'd be. You don't have
to worry. We got you. Well, you don't have to
train for it to show up. I'd see. I want

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to be there when it opened. I'd want to be
right there. And then of course your head's on it
swet like, well, what's gonna happen when we do this? Now? Somebody?
If the Good Lord himselfs said hands off, leave it alone,
then I'll do it. But when a human being says no,
that means yes to me. I've talked about when you
say that no, I'm not talking about with I'm talking

(01:06:34):
about when it comes to thrill seeking like this or
jumping out. Hey, what's it mean up here fifteen thousand feet?
Can I stop from jumping out of a plane and
put a backpack on?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
That parachute you no means yes up here. That's what
I'm not talking about in your relationships. I'm talking about
the thrill seeking to me, if somebody came up and said,
dark of the Covenants, there we think it is you
want to go, I'm all in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
I just think for one thousands of years we haven't
been able to find it. And there's a good reason.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Dan, It's some point in time you're probably gonna the
apocalypse may not end you, but then you're one hundred
and five, you're gonna die. Oh it's gonna happen. But
you want to go under your terms, not on this mark.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
I just I like to minimize my wrists where like
you know, hey, should I hit the three wood here
to try to reach it in two right? As opposed
to you know, jumping out a plane.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Somebody walks in here and said, we're going. We think
we know where's that. You wouldn't go. In truth, you
wouldn't go. I'd say, I know a guy that wants
to go. Yes, yeah, you could take my spot if
you'd like to. I'm in, give me that golden ticket.
I'm in all right. Would you go to the Willy
Walk of chocolate factory.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Yeah, but I wouldn't be Veruka Salt or Gunter or
any of the others. I mean, who doesn't laugh whenever
Gunter gets you know, sucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
So we're gonna do anything. I didn't hear the end
game with him. I saw the the you know what
he said about that, right is the end? Are we going?
Is somebody going? I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
I'm not aware if anybody is planning an archaeological We're
just going to leave alone. Yeah, it might be. I
think that there might be more people that are like me.
They're like, hey, don't temp fate now that part I do.
Just leave well enough alone. Yeah, it's been a lot
of years, so let it rest.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Wow. I get that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
It's like what Rip told Beth on Yellowstone. You know,
the world's full of enough problems. There's no need to
make life even harder on yourself. And how many times
did Beth listen to that? Not very often.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, I've got to, like Beth, I want to go
find it. So then Rip had to show up and
kick someone's ass. That's pretty much the relationship would be
the Ark of the Covenant. Maybe we're tougher than that.
Maybe I'm in though if they if they find I'd
like to be there to discover just say I's there
part of the party. Throw a party. We'll throw a
house party. Okay, they throw a house party. Sam Hunt
can be there. You don't even need Sam Hunt for it.

(01:08:37):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
All right, let's get into a little bit of NFL
because there's a right way to do things. Then there's
the way that this guy does things. We'll talk about
it right here. The Seawan Salisbury show continued. Someone three
two one two five seven ninety the number to get
in a little bit of NFL conversation here, because Sean

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on the owners meetings or I guess it was the
league meetings. I think they're gonna have the owners meetings
in May, but doesn't really matter. You still had everybody
from the NFL there in West Palm Beach, and it
was a couple of different owners who reacted to the
NFLPA survey. Then I'm sure you and Brian had covered
at the time where it's you know, a weight room
A through F grade and you know, teams get on

(01:09:21):
that and nutrition and locker room and treatment of families,
all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
We did cover all that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Yeah, well, Jets owner Woody Johnson will start with the
guy who doesn't get it first, and the headline is
Jets owner Woody Johnson rips NFLPA survey as quote totally bogus.
And where I'm going with this, Sean, is you wonder
why teams continue to lose? You wonder why organizations continue

(01:09:50):
to mire themselves in at the very best, mediocrity, because
I think for the most part, Jets fans would take
mediocrity at this point because at least that would be
probably a s wrinkling of playoff football somewhere in there.
Ever since Rex Ryan was there, that's going out the window.
That has not happened.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
But these are your players who are talking about you,
the most important people in your entire building talking about you,
and you want to trash on them by calling it
totally bogus of saying, oh, they don't know what they're
talking about, right, that's a play. Well, it's their opinion.
I can understand you. If it was social media saying it,
or somebody who's not in the locker room or at
the facility or in the meeting rooms or tasting the

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food or on the plane flight, then they're just saying
it it's just and that would I would consider that
a bogus poll. I'm not, you know, throwing away or
crap canning people's opinion. But then Woody Johnson can say, well,
they're outside the building, how would they know this is
just them from a distance because they don't like the
fact that we're losing right right, But when you're in

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the building and you come up and ask somebody and
they say, food sucks, our travel is not good, our
facilities aren't up to standards, and some especially people who
may have played somewhere else and now in the league,
that's all over the place. I don't know why you
would look at your players. What's bogus about it their
opinion or the fact that they're right and you're embarrassed
about it. So it's it's like when people take a

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poll of if you want to know what goes on
in locker rooms and how good players are usually talk
to the players. I'm not saying we in the media
or fans don't know. They may know them and they watch.
I'm just talking about the deep inner workings of it.
Players players know and if you want to know, because
we could sit back and say that quarterback's better. He
may win to your alma mater, or you loved him

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growing up, whatever it is. But players are they know
that they know. So if you want to know who
the best player in baseball is, ask the players, because
they'll give you a fair, usually a fair honest judgment
of why they like the guy, especially if it's anonymous. Oh,
they will tell you. And so since they're they're not
putting a name on all these players who said this,

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it's in your building, dude, or people that have been
in your building, and they're the ones. So if you
want to know if the food taste good at a
training camp or the facility, talk to the guys who
eat it, and they will tell you honestly. Not me
and you from a distance have never eaten at the
Jets facility, and we're watching from a distance because they're
not any good. So we say, well, their food must
suck because they're not any good. These are guys that

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actually eat it. So the players will be brutally. It's
like a three year old kid standing in the line
in a four hundred pound person walks by. They don't say,
they say, oh, you know, if you're or somebody has
bad hair. Hey man, that's a look. Look mom, you
told me those that hair's awful, or that person's fat
or that person's skinny. It's the same way with players.

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If you want brutal honesty about another player usually or
a coach or a facility, the players will give it
to you, especially when it's anonymous.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Well, and there's the local tide to this, I mean,
both from the Texans and the Rockets. The good is
I mean, do you think the Rockets would have that
brand new, state of the art practice facility over here
if Tilman Fertida said, oh, the players, you know what,
does their opinion matter to me?

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
I guarantee you that I think even too when we
went over there and toured it, they even talked about
player specifications of they told us what looks good, what works,
and all of these other things of saying, hey, I
want those guys to be as happy as possible to
be here, and I want others who want to be
a part of this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Okay, With the Texans, what's been recent talk either building
a new one or raising money to upgrade their stadium? Correct? Sure?
All right? Who that was part of this poll? Was
it not? Yeah? Okay, So the players. So instead of saying,
oh man, the players are full of crap and the
code the don't know what they're talking about. We're keeping

(01:13:32):
this facility just as is. What are the Texans trying
to do? Upgrade it? Right? Right? The ownership, so they
have taken it and it's probably before that they had
an idea. You know, you do your due diligences a Businessay,
we need upgrade, been doing all or when you talk
about the next Super Bowl coming, what do we need
to continue to bring them here every so often? So
you know, so instead of making excuse and calling the

(01:13:53):
players bs, they're out to you. How they're going to
raise the money's go is another thing. But they're out
to try and and make this a better facility and
the surrounding area. I'm I'm assuming, but in New York, see,
the problem with is the New York Jets. They're they're
their team has been what's the word, I'm dysfunctional for

(01:14:16):
quite some time. This is no surprise. And if you're
Woody Johnson, you're trying to protect and and you're not
adding to the ass kicking you've taken on the field.
It's an ego trail. There is no question, and you're
probably embarrassed too well.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
And that's what it is, and that's the lashing out,
because then the difference is is the other guy of
you know, doing it right. I think we can agree
that Robert Kraft has run his organization pretty right well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
He got some poor marks. He called it eye opening.
Oh what is what a shock?

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Here a guy that actually has been the owner of
a team that's won Super Bowls. And you could say
who was solely responsible for that or not. But the
point is him getting that feedback of saying, Okay, we've
got to fix.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Some good business people take feedback and say, you know what,
I thought it was better than this. Should my people
that are the people I've got to do some things
about it. Should if you get it, that's exactly what
you should do. Even the Kansas City Chiefs organization, they
didn't rank high in a lot of those for a
team to keeps winning. I haven't heard maybe I'm wrong.
I haven't heard Clark Hunt come out and say, ah,
players don't know what they're talking about. Right. I would

(01:15:14):
imagine the good organization say I didn't realize this was
going on. I got to pay closer attention but if
my players and not in a you know, kneel down
to the players because if they want some stake every
morning and every afternoon. No, but within reason of making
it up to standards event at which you expected a
billion dollar you know, well, multi billion dollar organization. So yeah,

(01:15:38):
the smart ones listen to their players and say, Okay,
here's some adjustments we can and need to make. And
the ones who don't win and don't get it billionaire
or not make excuses as to why, oh, the players
are full of crap. Well, the players are eating your food,
so keep it up and you'll continue to be a
place that people don't want to go with destinations as
opposed to do want to go. Woodie Johnson needs to

(01:15:58):
step his game up, obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Well, and some of those thoughts were here not too
long ago, and we'll talk about that here on the
Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Let the celebration start more.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
A couple of notes from our arc of the Covenant,
A conversation Brandy wing In on X I would totally
go to see if it's really there. The Knights Templar
hid the arc crazy good And for the record, that
was a good bit of fun this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Thanks for lightning the mood. Have a great rest of
the show. I'm off to teach Shakespeare's there you go,
get those sonnets in. Dude, tell me you haven't had
a sonnet that you're like, is this that you learn
from Shakespeare growing up? That he was going to apply
to me? For some it doesn't apply. Especially if you
got it, you're gonna teach it later. Think about when
you were like, well, sophomore year in high school, let's
just safe, yeah, and you started sonnets and started talking

(01:16:50):
about Shakespeare. Any think, well, what am I going to
use this in life? Well, there you goes that was brandy. Yeah,
now going to teach it. So you did at that
point in time, didn't know and now boom, you're going
to teach it to somebody else. So that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
I think it was an English sonnet, was one and
a petrarch, and I think one was like six lines
the other was nine. But uh, anyway, I mean, that's
that's what I that's what I still remember.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
We've all been there. Brother, shout out mister brun But
I couldn't at St. Thomas did it all, but I
couldn't teach it now, Brandon, No, I don't have the chops. Uh,
Stephen t that's got to be a that's a deep
guy to teach it, right, you've got to be well
versed at it. Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
And then you know you've got to do the uh
what was it Saint Crispin's speech? We had to do
that in mister Bruno's class. I do remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
He's still there. He's no longer at Saint Thomas, but uh, yeah,
he's he's still around. Cool guy. Got to give you
got to give brune dog. Oh yeah, yeah, big hunter.
Got to give the teacher some love. Could throw some
weight around the weight room too. Do you call them
teachers at a private school? Still tak Yeah, I think
professors And when you get to college, so you don't

(01:17:51):
you have a private school.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
You don't call him that now now, mister and missus
or yeah, you know you don't. You don't want to
miss label somebody trust me, you don't. You don't want
to you that?

Speaker 8 (01:18:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Well okay, well well do you well just stay prayed up?
Where tells you? That's it? You gotta stay prayed up.
That's it. What's that app called Halo? Hey he hell hello, yeah,
yeah there you just stay prayed up? What's going on?

(01:18:21):
Macky Machia. The name of the father son Holy Spirit,
that's Chris Uh. What's this? What's the actor's name stating
prayed up? Chris uh Pratt? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Is that who it is?

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
I think he's part of it. He always wanted to
say stay prayed up. Yeah, And the guy told Marky
mark that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Yeah, the guy, the guy not named Jim Caviezel that's
played Jesus. Like that's kind of you know, they talk
about being type cast and the guy still got the
long hair, the beer, so I mean he's really They
talk about method acting method acting there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
But think about that when you say type cast. If
I'm going to be type cast, I wanted to be
playing Jesus. You're Jesus. Yeah exactly? What's your I don't
know your name, dude. It's funny real quick. I met
the end. They're like having like fid like Jim Rockford,
you know who is James Garner fortunate. I don't know
how I got mixed in with this, but they drove
around at the Indy five hundred before it was when
I was doing television and they had riding in the back.

(01:19:12):
Everybody had their own car. There was like twenty five
of us, and I'm thinking, well, we got James Garter
and Covisl was there, passionate Christ right, and there was
all these and I'm like, I'm just a sports what
am I doing here? But I loved it because I
got to be around people a lot smarter and better
than me. But I'm one of those guys wants to
talk around, like I want to talk about the rock
Fer Files with James Garner or what a legend he is,

(01:19:34):
you know, and I want to talk to and ironically
Minnesota cavisl and I got to talk and he wants
to talk sports. I said, Jim, I don't want to
talk sports. I want to talk what you do and
talk about how good because he'd been in a lot
of good movies as the other guy, right, and he
was such a friggin gentleman. Man, what a great human being.
And we talked and talked and talked, and he was
just so humble and gracious, right. And I'm thinking, as

(01:19:57):
you said that, I'm thinking, hey, man, your type cast?
What he typecast as well? You know, whatever? It is
your type cast as Oh Jesus, Yeah, how'd you play it?
I don't think I played as well as Jesus, but
I was pretty good. Can you imagine all the energy
in that movie that you had to expend two even
half Because you talk about shoes to phill you you're
talking about big filling Mike Krzyzewsky's shoes at Duke or

(01:20:20):
that Shires got it, or when Kelvin leaves his son Jesus.
Hey man, how'd you do? Eh? I didn't play Jesus.
Would Yeah? You don't want to play b minus. You
don't want to hit the behind Jesus. You don't go
to be a Jesus. Yeah, no, no, no discount Jesus
around here. If you're Moses, Noah, Jesus, Jesus, you you

(01:20:41):
really want to play those roles? Well, if you get
a biblical role.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
I was going to say, and I remember too, because
you talked about him being a huge sports fan. He
an interviews saw he had talked about that, you know,
all of the hard times, like he got struck by lightning,
if I'm not mistaken, and he was like, I just
kept thinking about Minnesota Vikings football, and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
That's what we got. We were talk about. I was
talking about football, and I obviously retire, but I was
doing television at time. But he is a huge fan.
I'm like, that's great, but I'd prefer to talk about
how great you are yours. No, but just a if
you didn't know he was an actor, you'd have thought
he was just a just a good dude, right, and
he not that actors aren't good dudes, but he was.
That was not his I don't believe he thinks that

(01:21:21):
acting is his calling card in life, is what I
guess is the point.

Speaker 6 (01:21:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
He wasn't his whole self worth and all that wasn't
tied up an identity into being an actor. It was
tied up to being a good guy and a good
family guy. But he was phenomenal to me, and he
had no reason to be other than I played the
uniform that he roots for. I find that a lot
with those people out there in certain cities, you know,
but they're all of a sudden you wake up and
they're there, Viking fans like, and then they're starved Viking

(01:21:46):
fans because still don't have one. So I feel their pain.
After all the Super Bowl, you know, misses and unfortunate times.
But he was such a good human being man, and
I'll always root for him because of the way I
judge people by the way they treat people. And he
treated me like like I was his friend and he
didn't know me from Adam other than I put the
uniform on in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
It is cool to have those It is cool to
have those interactions like I had one with Jason Aldan
and you know, I mentioned where I worked. He goes, yeah,
I've listened to you and I'm like, what what, Yeah,
like you have Oh yeah, I think we'd be surprised that.
I mean we all, you know, turn on a media
or something. It's pretty cool man.

Speaker 8 (01:22:19):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
And then when they live up to your expectations of
him as human beings, there's nothing better than that. You're like, man,
I thought I thought different of you are you know?
And then when they let you down that's another thing.
But the majority, but he there was no there was
no let down with Jim Caviza. What a what a
great human Now that's pretty Jesus, that's it. And his
initials are j C. There you go, there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:22:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
Stephen t reminded us that Alison duty was the gorgeous
blonde in the last crusade?

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Which one was that?

Speaker 9 (01:22:47):
That one?

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
I was thinking a Capshaw who was on his side.
I'm trying to remember which one was the Alison Duty?
Which one was she?

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
I think she's the one who did the heel turn
when they did the yeah when she but she also
was in the library.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
She's the one who turned to did a was good?
Then she went to the other side, then came back
to Indy side. Right, Yeah, I gotcha. Now I know
what you're talking about. There you go.

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So the more you know here on that the Sean
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the Texans Stadium situation. I do want to get into
that in the eight o'clock hours, So we will do
that as we are halfway through here on a Thursday
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On fifty Wins on the year, top six seed in
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starting today and you of h getting ready for Duke
on Saturday in San Antonio. Uh see, a couple of
you want to get in on the phone lines. Get
to you all here in just a second, ish, John

(01:25:59):
we'll get you all into the conversation. But I did
want to wrap up kind of what we were talking
about with, you know, the whole Woody Johnson, Robert Kraft
the Texans angle of it, because Sewan it wasn't too
long ago that cal McNair and the Texans were not
well thought of, not only by current players but by
former players. Where it took to finally JJ Watt leaving

(01:26:22):
and going to Arizona, And I mean even before he
left noticed the tenor of how it changed of when
Bill O'Brien was here. He got fired and he was like,
this used to be a really fun organization to be around.
And I just remember thinking at the time when I
heard that, I go, congratulations, you made the guy who
was pre programmed to love this place hate this place.
That takes a lot to do, and you accomplished it.

(01:26:43):
There's you're big on the tone and tenor huge.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
I like it me too. And Bill's tone and tender
changed when he got too much power, but and they
allowed it, and everybody's you know, mister, you know when
when of the uh? When is when is col going
to turn in to make this and turn it into
where football is a priority. I think we felt at
times like it was just I think at times and

(01:27:08):
I've never met caw McNair, but all the talk was
well sitting around he got all this money. You know,
mister McNair left it to him, and he doesn't really
know how to run an organization. And I get why
people thought that at a time, but I can tell
you this, he and his wife have done a phenomenal
job of changing the perception and culture in the building.
And it's who they've hired, how they've gone about it.

(01:27:30):
Part of hiring good people is you got to clear
out the fat and trim it big time. Get rid
of the people who are toxic in an organization. Now
it's not just Bill. Listen, Bill O'Brien's a good person man.
Bill O'Brien's an abrasive person. Bill O'Brien is a hardcore
old school football East Coast guy who's a little more brave. Listen,
if you put him with water and oil mix, just

(01:27:52):
on where he's from and to where he goes and
doesn't sound like you and doesn't approach like you. I
know a lot of guys that i've in my coaching,
they've coached me in my career that are from different
parts of the country. And I know it's not that
big a deal, but it is. To some. It'd be
like you taken Landy Wilson and throwing her in Boston

(01:28:12):
and her music and the rest. I mean, they made
like some country music, but it's gonna be like it's
a little different, right. I got adjust to this. And
then when you get more power and all of a
sudden you immerse it into everybody and you throw it in.
And when Bill was just a football coach, they won divisions.
When Bill got too much power, the biggest mistake they
made was making him both and then it went crazy.

(01:28:32):
And then you know, it's hard to be a doctor
and a lawyer at the same time. But also just
you know, the easter By situation and the people. It
was just a tough one in it. And I think
it takes a great business leader or a great leader
in any way, shape or for him not to know
your strengths, which is important, but to know your weaknesses.
And they figured it out and you got to give them.

(01:28:55):
It's been one of the great turnarounds in front office
in the last three decades or more. Think I'm talking
about it anywhere, think about how they've changed. Hell, we
still got wondering what's going on in Oakland. I mean
when I say Oakland, I'm talking about the lost registrators.
What's called with the Chargers in the Spans, you start
to think about, okay, the Jets, you mentioned Woody Johnson,

(01:29:16):
and then you look at the ones who consistent Kansas City,
New England's had it, Pittsburgh Steelers, Baltimore, Baltimore that the
owners are not the face of the organization or the voice.
They're there, they do their job and they let there.
They empower their people, and I think what we wanted
is more inclusive, meaning not inclusive with everybody else, but
them do to be to throw themselves into football more right.

(01:29:39):
I'm talking about the mcnairs not inclusive in the color
and race, and that's not I'm talking about where they
were like wanted to be part of the everyday operation
that they were seeing heard around the football part of it,
not just sitting in an office about right, yeah, you're
building it, but you got elbow grease in it, not
just signing paychecks and not. And there's a fine line
between that and overloading to where you become a micro owner.

(01:30:02):
And it's like, well, Jerry, who I love, but Jerry
you can't get I mean, cal McNair does not want
to be the face of the organization. I wouldn't think
and any owner that does, you're already starting. If Bashadi
walked into ninety percent of the homes in Texas. Matter
of fact, most people saying, Bashadi, who's at Steve Bashatt?
If he walked in you think you think a ninety

(01:30:22):
percent of the homes outside of his division and his city,
what do you think? People say, dressed in a nice suits,
they would have zero idea.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
He's the owner of the Baltimore he walks, he walks
into mostros over here, people would be like, who's that guy? Yeah,
he walks Yeah, that's right, he does look for you're right,
but they wouldn't nowhere right he walks in and sees
Eddie our boss, and they go out to lunch or saying, oh,
he must be one of the executives here at iHeart
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
That's what you think. You don't have any idea what
he looks like. If Jerry walks in anywhere, guess what
they know he looks like face the organization. So I
think the McNair's have done a bang up job put
it this way. For all the discontent and stuff that
they they were a part of, and all the dysfunction
in the organization that people hammered them for and rightfully
so they've turned it around to the point they deserve

(01:31:09):
a ton of good stuff and credit for the way
they were able to put things aside, get it done
right and hire the right people like a Demico Ryans,
like a Nick Casseio, go out and draft right but
support it without being invasive on it. Does that make sense?
And to turn it around to the point now, dare
I say one of the more coveted places to want
to play in the league easily and it's for the

(01:31:32):
people that you mentioned created a different environment. And you
mentioned trimming the fat Sean, it wasn't trimming the fat,
it was removing in malignant tumor is what you removed
from this organization.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
I mentioned jj Watt. You had a guy who never
speaks up, never speaks out, and Andre Johnson who was
going out of his way to say nothing good has
happened as.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
An acastor of the organization, right.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Like a guy again like the same deal with JJ
Watt where it's like he loves this organization, he only
knows this organization and you're pushing him away for what
for this noisy gong that you have over here.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
That is an absolute wolf in sheep's clothing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
And not only that is a complete fraud in terms
of being a president of an organization.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Yeah, get out of here me. Yeah, trim fat was
a mild way to put it. They didn't like you said,
They didn't trim it. They they completely I mean it
was a dismantling of it was Manjarro times one hundred. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
I love my fat, I love my young life leader,
but I'm not going to ask my young life leader
to be an executive of a major organization. And this guy, somehow,
somehow it convinced somebody that he should be. I don't
know how, but he did.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
We all need an organization where you can go teach
the Bible on one Wednesday, sure, and be a pastor
and make football decisions on a Thursday. That's a good
gig if you can get it well. Not saying that
people who read the Bible aren't trying to. But when
your job's won and they've singled, they've handed you another
gig just because well, players like it at Bible study.

(01:32:57):
I get that. But what they've done, now, give me
the right business people, the right salespeople, the right coach,
the right front office guy, the right football people, and
the right mix. And this team has now become a
place in this organization that players want to be a
part of that aren't here, and people in other organizations

(01:33:19):
have their eye towards it. So the McNair's deserve a
lot of credit for taking criticism and not running from it,
staring at understanding it, dealing with it, and making the
necessary changes that have them headed. And they're not anywhere
they want to be, but they're getting closer. They're taking
steps in the right direction and now it feels to
me like they're like, this is a championship organization and

(01:33:42):
that's the way we're doing things. I give him a
lot of credit for the way they've turned it around.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
And it's also trust in your front office. People of
character obviously matters in that building. And the guy hiding
behind hey character, DeAndre Hopkins isn't a bad guy, and
you want to try to paint him as a being
a bad guy because probably he saw you for what
you were and that's why you got rid.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Of them, hey. And the thing about it is when
I always laugh when people say not you, but we
always hear it that, Hey, man, uh you got I'm
going to empower and trust my people. Well, you should
you hired them. That's the one thing I've never answered.
You hire them and then you don't trust him, then
why do you hire them? If I didn't trust a
quarterback to take care of the stuff on the field,

(01:34:21):
I wouldn't have drafted him. If I didn't trust Amiko
Ryans or my general manager to make good football decisions
in the building. Oh, it's like it's some novel concept
that say says, yeah, well I trust I hired him,
and now I'm gonna trust him or I'm an empowerble. Well,
you did sit down with him and you signed a contract.
I would expect that you would trust you to come

(01:34:43):
in here, me to come in here. You hired me
to turn on a mic and do my job correct.
And I think that that's there's that empowerment that goes
on that the non micro part of it is important.
And I think that good organizations need a lot of
people heading the right direction and the leader of it,
the McNair's directing him in the right place. Because in

(01:35:04):
the past that they had directed him, you thought they
were leading you astray. They were right to the wrong place.
Now they've taken the proper fork in the road and
made the right decision, and people are going down that
path that that path was unpaved, and they're doing a
good job of paving it. Good on them, no doubt
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Hopefully the astros can carve themselves out a different path
and quickly we'll talk about that right here. Seawann Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (01:35:31):
Let's go.

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Shine and y'all hitting on a subject that we kind
of talk up tossing around at the barbershop. Man and
you brought up easter beat. But Sean used to be

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he don't write the chicks. He can't do nothing unless
somebody else allow him to do it. Fact, and so
you know, the old man and gone on the gloor.
I think we're far enough away that we can you know,
we can look back on and say, hey, man, do
you think the Texans would be going down the path
they're going now if the old man was still around.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
It's a hell of a question. I don't know that.
I don't know that's a that's a good point. I mean,
he would they have made Would he have had the
wherewithal to make the changes necessary that are being made
by his son and his wife. That's a hell of
a point. I don't know. What's the barbershop say well.

Speaker 8 (01:36:43):
I mean it's it's it's kind of seventy thirty. Most
of us think no. And this is why, Sean, did
you you get a David Cully because of a certain mindset?
You know what I'm saying? As all? You know, you
you get rid of DeAndre Howkin for what a ham
sandwich because of a certain mind you know. I don't

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think they would have brought in a step Biggs with
his baggage.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
I think correct on that, among others, Joe Mixon probably wouldn't.
Joe Mixon may not have been here. He may not
have been here because of what he went through, you know,
and when he would with the female and you know,
there was that that followed him around. He may not
have been here, and hopefully Joe's changed, and we all
saw that on video what it looked like. That that's
a good point. Joe, and he never had any of

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that trouble you know, in Cincinnati around there and coming here,
he may not have been here that second chance that
you're looking for, right and inexcusable to do what he did, obviously,
But I think you're probably right now. Andy Reid would
have given him what he gives everybody. You know, Andy
Reid's a chance giver. I'm not sure that answer. That's
a hell of a point, man. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:37:53):
The last one, Sean, and I think Dan to me,
the tickens uh end and of the end before they
turned around here recently was the trading of Dwayne Brown.
And so you trade Dwayne Brown, you don't have a
left tackle, so now you're desperate and you got to
spend a couple first round picks to go get another guy.

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And so now this guy's got you under the you
gotta resign it because you didn't gave up two first
round picks. And so it just to me that was
the beginning of the end.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
And what they did, you have the opposite of what
you're saying there, which I do believe. I don't believe
that this current regime, coach included, would have let Dwayne
Brown walk out the building. How's that sound exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Exactly?

Speaker 8 (01:38:37):
Yeah, And you know, you know it's just and and
it's just amazing, you know. I give the younger guy
a cow and Hannah, whoever is running things, I give
them credit because even the music is different. Shot that
you can go to a game now it's like whoa man,
what what what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
And it's I'm gonna tell you, biscuit, real quick. I
think Hannah has a lot to say in it, and
I think it's a good thing. I think, I think,
I think that she. I think she's probably a when
I say this, it's a compliment, tough as hell. I
think that she. I mean, I think they work hand
in hand, but I don't think he has a problem,
and rightfully so deferring to her because I think she

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gets I think she gets it. I do, And I
think working together has been influenced so And you said it, Biscuit,
because you must think so as well. And that may
be part of the talk that it isn't just cal McNair,
who's got this thing turned around. Hannah's done a hell
of a job of doing the same thing. I firmly
believe that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:34):
And then last thing, koodles to the Texans. You know,
I mean they turned they did a one eighty. Yep,
and hey man, you know the futures looks bright.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
When some people say they did a three sixty, well no,
you don't want to do a three sixty because they're
right back where they started one eighties at Biscuit. Great
stuff and good point. And I do not know. And
i've met mister McNair when he was the owner and
was working in television and came here and did a
feature and all that stuff on car, But I don't
know him a deep dive and if just sit around
had a meal with him. Obviously, the reputation and everything

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about him when you move here and know about him,
and covering pro sports and football, you know about all
the owners. But I think Biscuit and his guys at
the barbershop make a good point. I don't know. My
gut tells me that there's some of the things that
would not have happened that have happened since Cal and
Hannah have made the change with the Miko and the
rest of it. So who's to know what direction the

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organization would have gone.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
It's a fair question to ask because I just think
that the issue with McNair Bob that was he didn't
really necessarily know what he didn't know, because I mean,
did he necessarily have a huge football background.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
It seemed like a lot of the times said everything
he looked at as saying, well, hey, New England, what
they're doing, Let's go that route and Bill O'Brien and
you know, well, let's go to our Patriot Place and
everything they got up there, let's bring that here and then,
you know. It kind of reminds me of remember the
twenty ten season they went six and ten. Everything went wrong.
Demiko what was it rupturing his achilles that year? And

(01:41:03):
I remembered it was like week twelve or something like that,
and Jerome Solomon or somebody caught up with them and
he was like, oh, I was just at the owner's
meetings and everybody was telling us, Oh, you guys are
doing great, You're doing great work down there. The fan
base lost their mind. They were like, we're doing great,
but we were supposed to make the playoffs this year,
and you're really trying to say, oh, hey, we're doing

(01:41:24):
the right things around here, Like seriously, you're going to
try to sell us on that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Yeah, easy to get caught up in doing the same
thing over and over again as an owner. And the
truth is, if you want to be like the Patriots,
you got to have the right people that built that organization.
They're doing it the right way here with some Patriot flavor,
but with also some other thing. And then that's the key.

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
There's a reason why. And the story ties in here.
Nick Saban whenever a coach would take another job, he'd say,
come come visit me first, and then he would tell
them his parting words, do not try to be me.
Do not try to be what this place is. You
won't replicate it. It's not going to happen. Wise words
from Yoda. Absolutely no doubt. And then I mean, look,

(01:42:07):
you know, for the way that things have turned around,
I mean I remember the day that Tamiko Ryans got
hired and you have all those people standing out front excited.
I mean the excitement in that building. I was like, oh,
that hasn't been there in about ten years. So it's
great to see that again, and it's you know, look
the decisions being made in that building.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Who do you know are making them? Nick Cassirio, Tamiko Ryans, Well,
they're football people and they should be making football decisions.
And then you as an owner signed the check and
support it or give your opinion. But let them do
what they do, and if it doesn't work, then you
replace them. And if it does work, then you've done
the right thing by empowering them. Real quick. It's okay
for teams to say I want to do like the
Kansas City Chiefs are doing. It's okay to do that,

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but you also have to take the steps to do it.
And you want to get to the point that after
you doing what New England did, or what Kansas City's doing,
or the way Buffalo or Baltimore or the Rams are
doing it, is at some point in time the goal
is for them to say, we want to do it
the way the Texans do it, just like the Astros
wanted to do it like somebody else. And then it
got to the point when Jeff Luno had built this

(01:43:07):
and the way they were winning, everybody said we got
to do it. The Astros, of course, it is, and
that's exactly what the Texans want to be. Man, we
need to do it just like the Texans, whether it's
building the organization, whether it's players, whether it's coaching staff,
whether it's facilities, whether it's the ownership, and then you
want them all combined and say that's the way a
functional and winning organization takes care of their business. They're

(01:43:29):
not all the way there yet, but the steps in
the direction they're not going. They've been climbing that hill.
Now it's started to level off for them, meaning it's
an easier walk for them because now it starts to
it's it kind of I don't want to say it
takes care of itself because you don't want to get
too comfortable and saying, Okay, well we've arrived, but you're
no longer the struggle to blow out and empty out

(01:43:50):
the stuff that you didn't like. It's pretty much blown out.
You believe it's possible, as opposed to hoping it's possible.
That's ex and not only do you believe it, you're
living it right now.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
And then also to trying to replicate the chiefs, well,
I mean you don't have Andy Reid. Chances are you're
gonna get Matt Naggy, And we've seen how Matt Naggy goes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Right, and maybe Naggi the next time around will be great.
But once again, what happens when a coach gets hired.
They usually get hired by what a bad team. And
if you don't get by in right away, you end
up going back to the coach that you work for
the first time. Yeah, we usually ends up that way.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
We've we've seen it play out that way time and
time again. Ish, I know you want to get in
on the rockets. We'll get you involved in the conversation.
It's fair game since we've talked about it also too,
do you want to get back into the astros conversation
because we did see a fear realized yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
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Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Validated for the Sean Salisbury show continues.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
And if I wanted to, I could never be free. Yeah,
I got the cut, did I right? Yeah, you do,
You're right on it. I believe it was true. Yeah,
it's America. I think it's wildfire. Can we do? Can
we do a little deep dive? Good? Is it wildfire? Yeah?
I think it's called wildfire maybe, but I think that's

(01:46:10):
the cut. Okay, but you know, I digress. Not that
big a deal, but I always want to know if
I'm on the right right musical.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
And I would say, too, with a little bit of
the wirlitzer right there, it probably qualifies as yacht rock, yeah,
I would think so. Yeah, it's it's probably in the category.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Don't know anything about America. I mean it's not I
mean in the cuts and stuff everything. Yeah, yeah, the
singing group. So am I right? Trip not as familiar?
Is it Wildfire?

Speaker 9 (01:46:44):
Well, it's it's I'm trying to find I'm seeing other
stuff like LA wildfires and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
Okay, just put it. Put America. I'll google it too
while we're while we're getting to our callers, but America,
and then say America's top hits, and then we'll know.
There you go, there you go, there you go. Ope,
you don't find Casey Casem's top hits. Oh you got well,
that's what you do. Want to find America's top forty.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Just make sure you have the pictures of the dogs.
That's that's all you need to remember about Casey. Case
all right seven one three, two one two, five, seven nine,
and we'll get back in the Diastros conversation shortly. But
Issh has been waiting patiently. He must talk some Rockets. Ish,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, ish Ish.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
I got to put you on hold, man because your connections.
A little tripley will get you squared away. I mean
it was only every other word, but yeah, I mean
we talked to Rockets earlier. We'll get back into that
conversation shortly. While Tripley he gets him squared away.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
I looked it up. We we are greatly devaluing how
important America is. And in this in in the cut industry, Okay,
songs like I've been to the Desert on a horse
with no that's America. Ventura Highway is America. Great class
Now you can do magic. And then this one and

(01:48:09):
they may not have the song that I was talking about.
Let's see him ten Man, Lonely People, Daisy Jane. But
here's one that you got it, and maybe they maybe
they're not the ones who sang Wildfire. But I can
tell you this great cut coming back. We got to
play it next time. It's called Sister Goldenhair. Do you

(01:48:30):
know the cut at eight forty five or whenever we
come back, we're gonna play Sister Goldenhair. Is the cut
you want? Okay, Tripoli, Sister Golden Hair by America? Dude,
you think look at that four or five right off
the back of Bangers. Guys.

Speaker 9 (01:48:45):
One of our two callers, Paul and Dave, they both
said that the cut that you talking about Sean wassing Fire.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Yeah it's Michael Martin Murphy. Okay, all right, there you go.
Sound like it sounded like America? What's it? But great?
That's exactly so on fires. Michael Martin Murphy, you said,
all right, sound but you'll there's a similar cut, sound right.
I mean the acoustics are the voice. But venture a
Highway you can do magic, but Sister Golden here another

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great cut due.

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
Ventura Highway is a good in two situations. A good
driving song, no doubt, in a good relaxing glass of wine,
backpatio kind of song.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
You look to me like a white wine spritzer. Guy, No, no,
no white wines. No white wines. You're a you're you're
a you're a probably a full bodied red, yes, very
much dry, nice dry. Yes, yeah, I don't. I don't
do the fruity stuff, right, little full bodied red dry.
See if he's got legs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
That's the thing though, like whenever people, you know, somebody
orders a bottle.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Of the table an amateur wine riker, Well, no it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
It's not even the amateur. It's the complete opposite. It's
the one who thinks that they're an expert because they
probably went out to NAPA and then they're doing the
glass sideways, all of this and doing the whole I'm like,
I'm like, dude, like you Hannibal Lecter, Like, I don't
eat it, man, Just do you like the wine or not?

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
That's all? Is it good?

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
And then I'll determine enough I think it's good. Yeah,
because I'm gonna be drinking it too, probably, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
That's the other thing is too, is like, you know,
I had a conversation with a buddy of mine once
about the etiquette of ordering wine at the table. All right,
it's fine if everybody agrees, because then when the bill
comes around, you can't split it up and you're the
one that ordered it and I'm not drinking it, I'm
not paying for it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
And that's fair when you say everybody come out and
everybody just will will just split the bill. But if
you I don't care if you ate a burger and
I ate a steak, or I had a steak and
you ate a burger, I'm splitting the billy. I don't care.
But when it comes to the boost part of it.
You ordered four bottles of two hundred bottles of wine
and I didn't drink any wine. I'm not sure that
I that it's why is that I because I've totally

(01:50:46):
I don't drink right, I don't want wine. I don't
drink wine. But that that's that's probably not where you
split the tab. Well, it's also too if you haven't
considered I don't itemize tabs like oh you had this burger,
I had fries, so you spent two dollars more food.
All's fair and level of one. You decide what you
want when you decide to come out and split the
bill of food, everybody five couples. Everybody just you know,
when it comes to food. But when you order four

(01:51:07):
bottles of wine and nobody else is drinking, that's on you.

Speaker 4 (01:51:09):
No, one hundred percent, it is. And that's where it's
also to being considerate of your friends of you know, hey,
I'll chip in a little bit more for the tip,
you know, tip your twenty or.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
Whatever you want, and then you know, go from there.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
But yeah, it's it's exactly that, like where it's just like, hey,
I'm just going out for a decent enough meal. I'm
not going really ham on this one. That's when it's
just like whoa dude, like you ordered like five martinis,
Like I'm not, I'm not on your level there, that's
on you. You ordered water, right, Yeah, yeah, I got you,
brother with Just be considerate of your friends in those situations.
And we always know too, when you invite somebody out,

(01:51:43):
the imply the implied purpose there is you're paying. And
if you're invited out, I would think that you go
in with the thought of, hey, I'm going to have
to you know, pay my part.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
But then it's if they're doing it right, if we're
all talking at a place and say hey, let's all
go to dinner. It's one. But if I hey man,
we're going to dinner. I got you. Come on, if
I invite you, I would assume that I'm treating you.
There you go. That's usually the way it works.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
But it's also it's it's a two way street because
then you hear that, and then it's all, I'm gonna
get the tomahawk.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
Don't don't do that, and don't order four bottles of
wine because yeah, because then you don't get the invite back. Yeah,
a little respect, that is, And don't itemize your bill.
That's say, if you order cream corn and I ordered
cream spinach, and mine's a dollar more than yours.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
Yeah, stop it, right, okay, hand me to what. Oh
you I got a soda? Yeah, you got a beer?
I know yours was two dollars in mine was two fifty. Right,
it's gonna be okay, forty dollars. I mean, I mean
you order four tomahawks and the five bottles of wine
and I had a turkey burger. It's probably not fair
to you or me, whoever is footing all that, or

(01:52:48):
who didn't do it, to have to pay for half
of it. That then I wouldn't do that to anybody
if I invited them to fifty beers. Man, I need
to find that. I was gonna say, that's a college
town on a Thursday night. Oh yeah, there you go.
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
So on one three, two, one two, five seven ninety
Brandon Ish, we'll get to you guys, and also get
back into the Astros conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
It's the Sean Salisbury Show. Hy G, you're back.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
Get back at it here, Yamo be there one more time.
I'm going to Yamo. Burn this place to the ground.
Yamo'll be there. Hop it over. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
The man could he could strike some keys, no doubt
about it. Seven one three, two, one two five seven ninety.
Get to Ish and Brandon Rockets. Obviously moving on to
the NBA Playoffs. Sixth seed in the Western Conference clinched,
Astro is trying to get back on the winning track
against Twins in Minnesota and Kelvin Sampson and the crew
already in San Antonio to get ready for the final four.

Speaker 8 (01:53:44):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
Ish, We'll try you again, buddy. Hopefully your connections better.
What's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:53:48):
Hey, good morning?

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Can you guys here all loud and clear, much better?
All right, thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:53:53):
I hope you guys having a good day. And uh,
I just wanted to ask Sean a question. But before
I get my questions is real quick. You know, I'm
a big Rockets fan my whole life. I can't remember
the last time I've been this happy about with the Rockets.
I can't remember the last time I've been this happy
with the Rockets and the disappointed with the Astro. This

(01:54:14):
has been quite a while now, so I'm talking about
a one eighty there. But Sean, I just wanted to
ask you. You know Dylan Brooks, he's a he's a piece,
and he keeps getting in trouble on the court, and
I just wanted to ask you, if you were a coach,

(01:54:37):
what's the conversation you're having with with such a potential player,
and especially in crunch time, playoff time. So that's my question,
and I hope you guys have a great day. Thanks
for taking my song.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
I man, I know where you're going with that, and
I completely I love the thought. And the question is
when you went out and got Dylan Brooks, you knew
we were getting You knew that you were going to
have to accept at times a little undisciplined and fiery,
I'm going to get you a foul or a technical

(01:55:12):
foul at times when you probably don't want it. Will
also the advent on the practice court and in games
check some of his players that need to be checked
at times and probably over check them to where I
am sure with all my heart and I don't know this,
but my guess is on the practice court stuff, we
don't see that. Dylan Brooks has had some run ins

(01:55:32):
with some of his players a little Christian late with
Bobby Hurley, sure, and I'm okay with it as long
as see I think every team needs a Dylan Brooks type.
We've had guys like Rashid Wallace, hell of a player
who was in it, lead the league and technical fouls
Bill Late. We need guys like that and there's that's
exactly right, the antagonizers who can play, and Dylan Brooks

(01:55:54):
can play, and I think he embraces that role. The
problem is you got to know when to tow the
line and actually step over it with one foot, which
he does. It's just not too and it just makes
a great point. You just don't want it to be
and don't kid yourself. E May knows exactly what he
was getting when Dylan Brooks was brought here, There's no question,

(01:56:15):
and quite frankly, I think it was for a reason.
The very stuff that is she's asking about not only
a good player, but a disruptor, an antagonizer, a fiery
guy who quite frankly isn't going to back down from anybody.
Gets you in trouble. So that's the risk reward thing
of this. And got some veteran leadership. So the only
thing you don't want to happen Game five of a

(01:56:38):
playoff game, it's two two and it's the fourth quarter,
and his frustration overcomes, you know, the emotion wears it. Honestly,
there is no question about it, and he just can't
and that's Straymond just can't resist. And normally when you
got Steph Curry, you can overcome the technical foul or
what have the foul and to put you in a
bind or you know, one of those things. And now,

(01:57:00):
because Steph will come back down knock down a three,
you do not want to put your team in a
game deciding buy bond bond bind because of a controllable
mistake you made so with the personality you get that
you knew. Listen, there is no way in hell anybody

(01:57:20):
in the Rockets organization when they brought him here thought
you were getting Mother Teresa on the basketball court. Jesus
misunderstood that that's what and maybe as well, you knew
what you were getting and you wondered how it would work,
and it's worked. But he's going to put you in
a bind. He just is. He's that. He's the guy,
the buddy that you have that's always going to say

(01:57:40):
at a party, that's gonna you know, he's going to
be the life and have a blast that at some
point he's going to say something or I have one
extra beer. That's gonna like, dude, okay, go go sit
down and don't talk anymore. We all have that buddy
right or on the golf whatever it is that's going
to talk in somebody's back. So you know one of
those guys, and Dylan Brooks is going to be that guy.
But that's part of the allure, that's part of what

(01:58:03):
you want. Hate playing against him, love him on your
team until he may has to bring him over and
sit his ass down because he took a technical in
game five of a playoff game that puts you two
points down and now you're in a chase mode with
twenty eight seconds. That's what he's just got to guard against.
But you knew what you were getting. The reward's great.
The risk will rear in has reared his head, but

(01:58:23):
only if is it detrimental either in the like if
it's a toxic thing in the locker room, which I
haven't heard anything about it being that way. But you know,
you know what you're getting with him. If you were
expecting no technicals, no disruption, no coach needs to talk
to you. I would imagine there's a bunch of times
he's been called to the principal's office. Well, but that's

(01:58:44):
who he is, So you know what you're getting with it.
I just hope it doesn't become a self inflicted problem
that costs you a game when it's a single elimination
type thing.

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
Well it was when they got he and Fred during
that free agency period, and it kind of signaled like, hey,
we're adding veterans, so we believe this team can take
the next time.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
Absolutely and much need. But you wanted to get some
guys that had some MF or in them, Oh he's
got You want the guy that's got a red ass
all the time, And I'd rather and I would always
maybe I think different. I would rather always have the guy.
Now when I say the red ass, not a guy
who's a toxic once is is a bully at practice,
I mean sometimes on the practice court to get you

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also want him on the practice court to antagonize, to
see how those his teammates respond a young player. Of course,
there's a method of that, Mattters. What I don't want
is the guy who comes in and is toxic and
all that. But what I do want, whether you call
it a red ass or whether you call it a
guy who that's the way he does things, I want

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that guy on my team because he'll never let you
get overly comfortable. He never will. So they knew what
they were getting and that's okay because I think for
the most part that teams that and there's a confidence
that comes with a guy who's not willing to back

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down to anybody. And I would much rather as a coach.
And here's my final point on this is I would
much rather have a guy I got to grab by
the back of the jersey and say dude, you got
to back your ass off. I understand your grind, your intensity,
your motion, grab him, not literally, say get your ass
over there and sit down. And then when you're in
the private meeting with your coaches, you're saying, I love

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this son of a bitch, love him, right, That's that's
the guy we see it on football field. Then a
guy I gotta say, I got to kick in the
rear and to say, do you realize we're in Game
five of the playoffs? Yeah? You do? You realize what
we're doing here? That guy that I got to push
to give energy. One thing I know about Dylan Brooks.
You may get you in trouble sometimes, but I don't

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have to coach energy with him. If I got to
coach energy and effort, I got a real problem. So
you know what you get with that guy as long
as and I'd much rather have a guy I gotta
beg to back off who's always on the verge of
getting himself in trouble. I love those kinds of guys
because you know what, they're willing to push the envelope.
And this team needed a guy like that. And I

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was reluctant when they first said, oh, my gosh, what
are you doing here with these young players? He's gonna
they're all he's gonna run ten of them out because
they can't handle his intensity. Well, here we are, and
he's been he's been good here, but you just got
a guard against that one mistake at the wrong time,
and that mistake with Dylan Brooks is usually self inflicted.
And that's okay. I like guys like that. That's one
of my favorite things, you know. Oh yeah, I got

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the red ass for that guy. You know.

Speaker 4 (02:01:28):
That's that's that's one of mine that whenever right here
that it always makes me laugh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
He Mayodoka understands why Dylan Brooks is here, mm hmm,
and we probably all do too well.

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
Laker fans told you about that the other night, with
the booze and the chants and all that other type stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
When you hear a guy like that going to building
and he's getting that, he's not your superstar. M you know,
he's impactful.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
Now, Reggie Jackson said it best they don't boo Nobody's well,
the Astros would like to avoid the booze as much
as possible, and we'll get into that here in the
nine o'clock hour. Here on the Sean Salisbury Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
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Speaker 7 (02:02:07):
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Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Say over Houston, Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Sean Salisbury to USC Troupes, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
Dan, MATTHEWSCU. Jesus, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (02:02:44):
Means courtesy a carback brewing er. Good buddy, Chris, Gordy, Gordy,
it's time to panic, buddy. It's it's absolutely time to
just go ahead and two and four, Oh my god,
it's overs serious. It's up for you to determined on
that one.

Speaker 11 (02:03:02):
I'll say that somebody brought it up to my attention
that I had a tweet from so today's April third,
twenty twenty five. April third, twenty nineteen, six years ago
to the day I tweeted. I know we're barely a
wicket to the season, but the Astros offense has put
up forty five gooseag innings so far. Find a way
to manufacture some runs This was the same issue with twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
Nine teens retweet it today or they.

Speaker 11 (02:03:25):
Went on to have one of the best offensive seasons ever.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Wasn't that Bragman's finished second the MVP year? Was that
his whole leaf show? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (02:03:32):
So you know it is what it is, small sample size.
I get it, but it's not getting anybody excited. It's
not saying, man, I can't wait to get down to
the ballpark to go watch the Astros score one run, right,
so you know, but it's early, but I get it
in all seriousness.

Speaker 4 (02:03:45):
I mean, you look at some of the at bats
and me and Sean talked about this a little bit
earlier yesterday, encouraging what yould on, but singles are not
your Dan's game. But then the problem is Gordy. It's
Yiner taking a fastball and then swinging over the top
of a slider in the dirt. I mean, just you
know some guys that you're like, man, I hope you
get going because with jord On we talked about it,

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it's not an if it's a win. But with Yiner,
there's not enough to sample size for me to say
that what he's been the last couple of years means
that's who he is.

Speaker 11 (02:04:13):
Well, look he's been. He was one of the best
hitting catchers in all of baseball last year. I think
I think you got You gotta expect he's gonna come around.
The Christian Walker thing is what's troubling, because first base
has just been in albatross for you the last couple
of years. And you signed this guy in the offseason
to a big money deal. You go, thank god, we
finally we're done with the John Singleton experience, Like we
got the guy we missed on Jose Brew And now

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here's Walker oh for four three strikeouts yesterday and the
average at one twenty five.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
Like. I like what he said postgame.

Speaker 11 (02:04:42):
He said, like, look, look we faced a really good
pitcher so far, timing's a little bit off. I gotta
lay off that slider away all so he knows what
the problem is. It's just how many times the last
few games has he come up and Yannar Diaz come
up and you're not come up with men on base.
Nothing kills more than a runner on third with less
than two outs.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
You can't get that runner home. See for me, it's
not the six game sample size. It bugs me. Now
with a guy like Christian Walker. We've seen his success
in his pass in an Arizona and he comes highly regarded.
And I understand the slow start. We do. Six games
in baseball is the equivalent of what the first quarter
in a football game or less. You know, I've say
two series, so the perspective of that. But the thing
that bothers me about it is it's Groundhog Day from

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last year with runners. And I know it's early, but
when you take the cumulative effect of it, that's to
me the thing that it's not just the six games.
It's like, this looks eerily similar to the inability to
produce runs necessary pitching doing a nice job, and then
the run guyant like you said, guyant third, can't lift
one the right field to score him, or can't hit

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it to the right side of the infield to get
him in, or whatever it might be to move a
guy over and get him in or hit a three
run job. And for me, that's what it is. Do
I think is going to go on a roll and
hit Yes. Do I think Jordan's going to hit nine
home runs in a month? Of course I do. But
there are the concerns, and you wonder and Walker's reputation,
But when they're going to start putting positions to where

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they are the ones that other opposing teams are saying,
and we face some good hitting as opposed to us saying, yeah,
we face good pitching because that's what we're waiting on.

Speaker 11 (02:06:18):
Because everybody's got good pitching, of course, especially at the top.
It's a nice excuse, but like, come on, Like, I
don't know, did you how many cy young candidates does
the San Francisco Giants have this year? The Mets, you know, okay,
they've they had a couple of good guys, but like,
I don't know, you're gonna see much better pitching later.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
Well you think you see when you get to Seattle.
I mean, like they're on the Texas Rangers.

Speaker 11 (02:06:40):
Say when back to back won nothing games for the
first time ever, Like that's.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
That The alarming thing is you're not You're not you're
not thumbing up the win. You're saying, what's wrong with
our bats? When we're winning one another one? Thank god
for the pitching?

Speaker 11 (02:06:52):
Right, Yeah, But it's the other thing from last from
last April, like don't dig yourself a hole. Look, I'm
five If they play five hundred ball the rest of April.
I'll take that grade. But like, don't dig yourself that
hole where it's such a big trench. You spend the
next month and a half digging out of it, and
then it's finally okay, now we're back into the pen.

Speaker 1 (02:07:10):
But you're also mentally and emotionally exhausted too, not just
the physical part that goes with doing it, when you're
in a chase mode the whole year. I compare it
to the Bengals because their slow start. Think about if
they'd just taken care of their business. I've said in
September one more time. Yeah, you didn't want to play
their offense in the postseason with the way Burrow and
Chase were playing, right, And it's the same thing here,

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and they were able to do. What you don't want
to do is test yourself at twelve and twenty four
year after year. That's what you don't want to do
because you eventually you won't get help from like they
last year. The Rangers in Seattle also year an eight
and down their legs, so you could make that run
thirty six games in. You do not want to be
in that position. And I understand we're a long way

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from there. But I'm with you, give me five hundred
ball in April and then let things get hot. That's fine.
It's not so much the loss as it's the way
they look. And it's the same story from last year,
which is the alarming part. And I'm all for blame
the manager when blame is due.

Speaker 11 (02:08:04):
But like I saw people crushing a spot, and I'm like,
I don't know what Joe Spotty could do differently, Like
he's going to the right arms out of the bullpen.
He's building what we think is a decent lineup, Like,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Know what more you could he could do here.

Speaker 11 (02:08:16):
They're just not hitting, Like he's putting guys in positions
like you're coming up with the metal base and you're not
doing anything.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
That's always that on the manager, right, that's always my favorite.
Like you mentioned of fastball in and you don't, you
don't catch up to it and then they throw you
a hook away and you wave at it on a
non competitive strike, and that's Joe's fault. I've always I've
always laughed. I said, I got back to pass. Brian
Billet calls the perfect route and I miss a dig

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route by eight feet. That lands in the free safety's
hands and you go to the sidelights. I got news
for you. It ain't Brian Billick's fault. What are you doing, Billet, Yeah,
that's right. Well what kind of call is that? Well,
the guy was opened by eight yards. I just happened
to thought eight yards over his head is supposed to
lead him into the hole. And you go to the
sidelines and it's like, wow, that the coordinator sucks. No,

(02:09:06):
actually that game the coordinator, everything was right. And I
do reserve the right with the ball in my hand
to throw it to somebody else. And if I miss,
it's just like with a bat. I do reserve the
right on a ball that's a yard of a foot
outside the plate to actually lay off it. Joe didn't
say like they do in Little League, Hey, Bud about it?
Hey better swing talking to yan or Diaz at the plate.

(02:09:27):
It will happen. But we are all in, Like I said,
it's a season for all of us in six games.
That's the way we look at it. If and that's
human nature.

Speaker 11 (02:09:34):
If we're in a three to three game in the
in the in the eighth inning and he goes to
the bullpen and Raphael Montaro comes out.

Speaker 1 (02:09:39):
Yes, we look at Joe Spot say what the hell
are you? Scream and be pissed the whole way. You're
late in the game and RBI opportunity. Yord On's up
and he pinched hits for Chas McCormick. Yes, you go,
what the hell are you doing? Well? Like, we send
him to a psychologist, take him out of couch. There.
There haven't been any of those moments yet.

Speaker 11 (02:09:55):
It's just like the guys that are supposed to produce
aren't producing yet.

Speaker 1 (02:09:59):
Have you ever notice? So when things are going good
and the players are hitting, it's the players that are great.
When biggs are going bad, it's the guy who doesn't
have a bat in his head. It's always his fault.
He's not keeping them enough accountability. I guess I forget
up all the time.

Speaker 11 (02:10:10):
Twenty twenty two postseason, You know we do all the
pre and postgame shows. That was the first stretch ever
I can remember. We didn't get one what is Dusty doing?

Speaker 1 (02:10:19):
Call? Like the one.

Speaker 11 (02:10:21):
There wasn't one call questioning what Dusty Baker did throughout
that twenty twenty two World Series, right because he doted
up all the right buttons.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
The pitching staff crush.

Speaker 11 (02:10:28):
The hitters did what they were supposed to do when
they want like, there was no questioning the manager.

Speaker 1 (02:10:32):
Yeah, because what he did he managed the same way
he probably would have the year before. It's just that
good things happen. Yeah, And sometimes you're on the right
side of him, and sometimes you're on the other teams
getting paid too. I know that we don't want to
accept that, but listen, you just right now, I would
take a nine to eight loss that had batsy erupting
and say, okay, because eventually it's going to turn around.
You're not going to give up nine runs. So I

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just think the optics of it bothersome. And you open
up the show talking about you can't miss the jiner
usually catches up to the one or will hammer that
one and then waving at the one arm you know,
no shot to put it in play swing, which hasn't
been like him since he's been in the league. And
that's probably another reason why it's a little bit alarming,
because you say, man, this is one of the better
hitting catchers in baseball and it's hitting in our five

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hole or six hole or at times four hole last year,
and you expect it but I know it's hard. But
data Brown will emphasize they did yesterday. We got another
day game today. We go to play all three day
games in Minnesota. Aren't they all three? I think they go.

Speaker 11 (02:11:28):
But they're off Friday. It's a weird off day Friday
than Saturday Sunday. But so we had a three to
ten game here yesterday. That was a weird time. We
have another three I think it's three ten again today
in Minneapolis. Current temperature in Minneapolis thirty five degrees.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
Awesome. So those cold bats, I was just a heat up.
I was just about to say, So you wrote you
expect to come out of this with a twelve run game.
Thirty five is tough. I've spent a enough time in
that city to know thirty five is good. A feel
like it's about twenty two degrees. Now, this will be
the day the wind's blown out and they score twelve runs.
It'll be great.

Speaker 11 (02:12:00):
But shout out to the genius is a target Field
that built the open roof in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (02:12:06):
Yeah, great great planning, yeah, I would say probably. And
it's in a great area right down town. It's awesome.
You've been there. Yeah, I love it. But yeah, you
probably did engineering. Probably if you had to do it
over again, you say, you know that thing that retractable,
Give me one of those.

Speaker 11 (02:12:20):
Even half retractable. Do what Seattle did? We like at
least half the stadium's going.

Speaker 4 (02:12:23):
Absolutely, you at least have the allure of it. I
guess the illusion of it is the better, better term.
But I mean, you touched on it. They're gonna be
off tomorrow, but they're gonna be playing on Saturday Sunday.
Got you of age playing a lot of good stuff
happening this weekend. There's never a bad occasion of joy.
Before I let you go, Sorry to interrupt, is how

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deep does this? I mean, does it hit deep for us?
The fact that what the Rockets are doing. Think about it, Gordy.

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
Two years ago they were in the low twenties when yeah,
oh yeah, and now two years later, since Udoka has
been there, they are literally have doubled their wins in
a season. Yeah, how big a threat in twenty two?

Speaker 11 (02:13:00):
They're dangerous. I mean that they are just because it's
the unknown. They haven't been to the postseason. We don't
know what their mentality is. Do we get in the
playoffs and they suddenly shirk and they're like, oh, this
moment's too big or do they just not know any better?
And they go in They got it right, Alpie's dropping
thirty and ten. We're like, holy crap, where'd that come from? So, yeah,
you don't know, but look, Ema is a hell of
a coach. I'll side with him in any matchup.

Speaker 1 (02:13:23):
Agreed. You know you might whoop everybody's ass himself too.
That's a that he's got some strength too.

Speaker 11 (02:13:27):
You want to avoid as the Lakers and the Warriors
just because of how talented they are.

Speaker 1 (02:13:31):
Now, they know how to win in big moments, especially
Golden States, they find a way.

Speaker 11 (02:13:35):
And the refs in LA were not are not forgiving.
But uh, you know, but okay, see he's still hands
down the best. I mean, the avoid seeing them as
far as you as far as you can.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Nuggets aren't gonna go away because they have the best player.
There's some good teams and the way I didn't say
Golden State's better than the Lakers, but the Steph Curry
Draymond Green presence, there's always something about those veterans teams
that know how to win in close games and the
brilliant move by the Lakers to steal Luca was a
was wise, but this.

Speaker 11 (02:14:00):
Could be the moment that we see them tell you, like,
if they make the playoffs and just win a first
round game a series, that will absolutely get everybody fired
up moving forward.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
And a great thing about that, you were one hundred
percent right. The great thing about that too is you
know what Emeyo Dooka is talking. He ain't talking about
you now, take care of one series, but he's making
sure they're not thinking like we are one series and
like they're on the rate direction. I think the reason
why they're successful, his expectations exceed what we'd say is, oh,
it's a winning season, right, which is a good thing.
So I think we're treading lightly to find out how

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they're going to deal in the postseason. He sees them
every day, probably understands it, but on the when he's
talking to his team, he's saying, why not us? I
would imagine.

Speaker 11 (02:14:41):
Twenty nineteen, the last time we had a playoff game
at Toyota Center, twenty twenty, they made the playoffs, but
we were gonna be the COVID bubble, right, That's right,
that's exact, Florida, that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:14:50):
So but this will be anybody was on the road,
then it's going to be exciting. Yeah. Man, hopefully they
can stay in that two or three spot. Lock that up.
You got Cougar's winning. I think, I literally think it's
anybody's game.

Speaker 11 (02:15:03):
I mean all four of these teams I think can
legit and legitimately have a chance to win it all.

Speaker 1 (02:15:06):
Fran Frischella told me that yesterday. He said, the basketball anasty.
He said, you know, it's hard to pick. He goes,
there is no way anybody can think that whoever wins
this got lucky doing it. Yeah, they're all capable of
swarded with number one all year long coaching edge.

Speaker 11 (02:15:21):
How many times has Kelvin Samps had been in this spot?
John Shire's green man? I mean, if it's a close game,
think of what think of what Kelvin drew up in
the final seconds of the Purdue game?

Speaker 1 (02:15:30):
Right Like, does John Shire have that up his sleeve?
And what about Florida? Florida too? I mean Todd Golden,
this is fresh for him. Bruce Pearl's been to the tournament.
That's what I'm saying. Two japons of two guys that
are fairly fresh at it. But have some great energy.
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 11 (02:15:42):
Yeah, I just I look at you, of Agent, I
just say, like, is what they just did to Tennessee
holding him to fifteen points in the first half. Look,
talent may just supersed all. And that's what's gonna happen.
If Duke wins and that good.

Speaker 1 (02:15:54):
They got like forty on their team right now.

Speaker 11 (02:15:57):
But if it comes down to coaching decisions, it's advantage
Kelvin all the way.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
And if these games play in the fifties or sixties,
gimme Houston.

Speaker 4 (02:16:05):
Yeah, seems like that's their game. And I mean, you know,
we talked about it too. We've had some Astros conversation
here getting in a little bit of Rockets you of
hed this weekend. All that's at play, I mean, Carbock, yeah,
and the Crawford Bockets.

Speaker 11 (02:16:18):
It's not just for Astros baseball, is it. It's everything.
I actually stocked up my fridge show last night. I've
got my little mini fridge upstairs. I got the Crawford Bicker.
I still got some of the Paloile too. If you
guys haven't tried that a little to edition out there
in stores. Of course, you can get all at the
at the ballpark. When we're at Dockin Park and all
over town. You can find the Crawford back in whatever
grocery store or wherever you're at.

Speaker 1 (02:16:38):
And I want to.

Speaker 11 (02:16:39):
Remind you guys, always fun events going on over there
are Carbock Brewing out there in the beer Garden. The
weather is nice now. Coming up next weekend April twelfth,
they're doing their annual Love Street Fest. Live music, of course,
art exhibits, food, vendors, all kinds of stuff going out.
They're fun for the whole family. Get on out there
and experience the Love Street Fest at Beer Garden.

Speaker 1 (02:17:02):
On April twelfth. Doors will open at three p m.

Speaker 11 (02:17:05):
You can get your VIP tickets and general emission tickets
over at Carbock Brewing dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
Thanks Corny, I appreciate, appreciate it. Always great. We'll talk
to you on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (02:17:13):
All right, back into the Astros conversation coming up, Al Brandon,
see you guys right there, get to you all. Also
something to focus on with the Astros pitching, we'll discuss
right here.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
Sean Salisbury show, The.

Speaker 3 (02:17:27):
Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
Uh, maybe a couple. I'm sure there's probably more than
we don't know of. I mean kind of like the
Dolby Gray, just the way he may be a one
hit wonder, but there may be a couple others on there.
But I mean this will just this will get you
in your fields, dude, really good, really good banger. Underrated
it is. I mean it's like Cat Stevens. You know
all those you know that you played the Cat Stevens card, right,

(02:17:52):
because that's still his name. Didn't he change his name?
I think he might have, but I still call him Cat? Yes,
Tad was up dogs. You see Cat Stevens. What's that dog? Yeah?
You think he said no, no, no, I'm Cat yeah or
whatever his new weird name is he changed the muscle?
Is he Muslim? Now? It might be, might be maybe,
But it's just like called oh yeah, fun. Is that

(02:18:16):
not the worst?

Speaker 4 (02:18:16):
Like you're a huge fan of somebody and then like
they turn weird like that and you're just like, why, man,
you had such a good thing going you didn't have
to do.

Speaker 1 (02:18:22):
See a Cat's in the Cradle guy, That is that
Cat Steven's. Cat's in the Cradle in the Silver Spoon,
the little boy Blue in the mount on the moon. Yeah, yeah,
you don't you don't want to be that dad when
you're coming home, son, I don't know when right that's
the good right now? Yeah, it's just like, what's it.

Speaker 4 (02:18:39):
They asked Jim Harball once what his favorite song is,
and he said The reck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Speaker 1 (02:18:44):
They're like, dude, come on, that's terrible.

Speaker 4 (02:18:45):
He's like He's like, no, no, no, no, as as Harball
would say, you know, no, no, you know, there's there's grit,
you know, there's determinations, guys working as a team.

Speaker 1 (02:18:55):
My guy, I think he just passed away in the
last year. Who's the the who sings that? Who's the
singer of the Wreck of the Edmunds show? I have
no idea. Yeah you do cher google machine real quick,
you'll know his name. Can we hit it? Can you
t your Google machine? The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, The.

Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald singer Gordon light There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:19:17):
Yeah, didn't he just pass away in the last year?
Take a look, dude. I might be wrong. I'm not
good with death. It could have been like eight years ago,
but I think Gordon Lightfoots in the last two years
has passed away I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (02:19:26):
Say twenty years, twenty twenty three years, right, you go? Okay,
So it looked like he was close to death for
a while the pictures, so come.

Speaker 1 (02:19:34):
I let it be rested. It's two years, so he's
passed the rik look. I mean you're looking at the
wrong way.

Speaker 4 (02:19:38):
I mean, Keith Richards just looked that way for years
and we're thinking, O, man, Keith's gonna go at any No,
he's never gonna outlive all of us.

Speaker 1 (02:19:44):
Keith Richards is going to be a wreck as long
as the Ark of the Covenant due he ain't going anywhere.
He's closer to the crypt Keeper than he is Keith
Richards anyway. But he's still dude, whatever he's doing. We
need whatever drug he took, and they took a lot
out of them. I'm sure that's what I want. But dude,
you said it's such a classic throw with you the

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way he said it, but it was so nonchalant. Dude,
the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald has got to be it.
I love Gordon Lightfoot, Okay, he's got some you know
that cut blows Dude, who would ever choose? Hey, what's
your favorite song? Oh? I don't know, man, Stairway to Heaven.
I love you know, whatever group and whoever it is.

(02:20:27):
There's so many. Oh I got a great one for you, dude,
The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Now I respect his vocals,
but come on, man, that's like, say, hey, what's your
favorite food? Roasted bro Although I do like Brussels sprout bacon,

(02:20:48):
but don't cook brussels sprouts in the house with the
wrong it will you ain't getting rid of it. They'll
be in the walls, you know. Maybe maybe a cold
spam sandwich. I don't know. I eat spam too. But
whatever it is that you think is ass liver and
fry potatoes, that's kind of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Boiled fish. Yeah, a hard boiled eggs from a convenience store.

(02:21:10):
Somebody say it the other day, said I. He was
on a trip and came through and all of a sudden,
uh wi gene. On the way home on the trip
cross country. Oh, I just ate I stopped at those
little convenience stores on the side of a highway on
Imperial Highway or on the Trail Highway and got the

(02:21:31):
hard boiled eggs in the convenicer. Dude, I can't think
of anything closer to bachulism or food poisoning than hard
boiled eggs sitting in it, you know, And they'll sit
in that refrigerated part, but they're not really refrigerating. They're
not behind us. Yeah, do you want to throw op
at your Yeah? And I like pickled beets that but
I ain't buying them from a time Wise or some
store we don't know the name of in the middle

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of between Texas and the Robert Trent Jones Trail. Okay,
I'm just not doing it. So I'm just thinking, who
in the world and I've stopped and you get a
protein bar even at now if you're fortunate to run
into BUCkies or one of the other ones, it's got
like a good hot dog dining, right, But who in

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the world stops on the drive at a convenience store. Now,
I understand hard boiled eggs. I love hard boiled eggs.
When I do them at home, it's like going to
a potluck at your church at the cultural hall, you know,
the gym. Everybody bring a dish and then the one
family brings tuna casserole and it sits out in the open.

(02:22:34):
You know, that's the that's a two hour potluck, and
it's sitting there, not in a warmer, it's the tunic.
I will never eat tuna casserole outside my home when
I was growing up because it was inexpensive to making
everybody did it right, But now that that's what The
hard boiled egg in a convenience store, who does that? Yeah,
hey man, we're gonna eat when you get here, and
that's all good. I already ate. I stopped at in
Ulsips and got a tuna sandwich. Yeah yeah, oh did

(02:22:57):
you They made it for me, but the tuna was
sitting out and they heat for like seven hours. Oh
that's great. What are you throwing up? I mean, I
just there's certain things I don't get in. And I'll listen.
Put it this way. I'm starving before I eat hard
boiled eggs and it can would you say it? Somepted SIPs?
Would you call it? Yeah? That's even oh I see
that right on it. But even that, okay, maybe this guy.

(02:23:21):
But I'm talking about the one where you go buy CBD. Yeah, yeah,
you know the water they got. They have every little,
every little sex toy hat CBD they got. I mean
they got you know, there's the five ir energy, but
they got like forty seven different brands of it. You
got swish or sweets. You know, you can smell all

(02:23:43):
that stuff. And then you say, hey, by the way,
we're the hard boiled eggs. Man.

Speaker 6 (02:23:47):
You got.

Speaker 1 (02:23:49):
Off Off Off Off off the brand of those certain
pills up at the front. That's a dead brand. Yeah, yeah,
here's these are vitamins. I think it's your ass.

Speaker 4 (02:23:58):
I think it's gonna give you the oppe effect of
what you're going for, if that's what you're trying. It's
funny to the hats, like you know, you go there
and it's got like a halue and white lettering Houston
like you see those It's like, who actually says, you
know what, I really need to get.

Speaker 1 (02:24:13):
That hat righty five man? You can't bend the brim
for anything. And the mesh on the back of the
trucker part tears the back of your head because it's
like it's been sitting there and nobody's ever used it
or taken it off the shelf. That's exactly. Or the
T shirt that after one one wash goes from a
double extra large to a small. Oh dude, those could

(02:24:33):
mean sort and hard boiled eggs are at the lower
part of the list of which you should stop and eat.
There get a candy bar, I don't care. Do you
eat five candy bars hard boiled eggs at a convenience
store in the middle of nowhere. Those were made like
eight weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (02:24:50):
That's a cool shirts ros.

Speaker 1 (02:24:53):
What does that mean? Well, it was astros, but the
ast rupped off on the drive. Oh so your silk
screen he didn't work very well. No, not very well. Yeah,
they're trying to paint it on the They're they're pressing
process with the T shirt manufacturer. Not great, but you
just said it. The what's your favorite song? Oh? I

(02:25:14):
don't know. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. The health
says that there's a part in the song where one
of the guys leans over to the other and says,
it was nice knowing you, right right. It's just they're
going as they're sinking in the lake Erie the Wreck
of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Hey, mister and missus, you know

(02:25:36):
so and so well, you got a lovely young son
or daughter would you like to daim and they name
some name that you like. The kid's going to struggle.
That's what that to do. The kid's going to spend
the rest of his life hating his parents.

Speaker 4 (02:25:44):
That's that's the old You do know that he's got
to go to school or she's got to go to
school with that name. You understand that, right, and you
understand that kids can be pretty ruthless.

Speaker 1 (02:25:53):
You want bullying and your kid to come home with
no self esteem? Name him that? Yeah, okay, yeah, don't
do it.

Speaker 4 (02:25:58):
Just just just stick with the all right, the basics.
Never got anybody beats there, you go, all right, see
a lot of you want to get in on the astros,
so we can get into that.

Speaker 1 (02:26:06):
Also. Koog's you are rockets.

Speaker 4 (02:26:09):
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Speaker 6 (02:27:53):
And we're valid.

Speaker 3 (02:27:55):
But the Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (02:28:00):
And what's up, buddy doing?

Speaker 7 (02:28:02):
Okay, I am nay coffee this morning?

Speaker 1 (02:28:07):
Okay? Good is it? What is is it? Folgers? Is
it spindle tap? See what I did there? Coffee right there?
What kind of coffee is it? Explain to us the
coffee that you're drinking today.

Speaker 2 (02:28:23):
It's a blowout?

Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
Okay in the camp? Cool? All right, there we go,
there we go. What you got on the mastros.

Speaker 7 (02:28:34):
We need to land against the trends.

Speaker 4 (02:28:36):
That they do, buddy. They need to hit the baseball brand.
And that's what they need to do. Like you know,
let's let's let's man a fast, let's let's make it happen.

Speaker 7 (02:28:46):
Yeah, not like opening Day.

Speaker 4 (02:28:50):
Well, I mean, you know, it was a little bit
closer on Opening Day. But yeah, we need to see
some home runs. We need to see some extra base hits, buddy.
That's that's what we need. Maybe they need some of
your coffee.

Speaker 1 (02:28:59):
I don't know they could. That coffee may help little energy,
you know. So do you put cream and sugar in yours?
Or do you drink it black?

Speaker 8 (02:29:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:29:06):
I I do cre nice like it. Wh I usually
drink my I like my coffee like I like uh like,
I like my coffee black, so I I do. I
usually drink my every now and then I'll drop a little,
uh little cream in it maybe, but most of the
time I like it black.

Speaker 6 (02:29:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:29:28):
Hey, if you ad a team, I'll be watching on
a space a home network.

Speaker 1 (02:29:34):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (02:29:37):
There you go, And I know they're always grateful that
you do. That's it, buddy, appreciate it, buddy. We'll talk
to youmorrow. Okay, buddy, you got right up to the line.
You got it well like I like my coffee black.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
And bitter, just like you like you? Yeah, just like
you like it. I like it well like my coffee
black and bitter. The line that self is great, but
it's the look that kiss. It's freaking awesome. How do
you like your shock? It's almost like he was in
on the joke. It was like, well, I like mine,

(02:30:13):
but I do I drink my coffee ninety five percent
of the time black, My dad said, My dad says,
you're great on the offensive end, but you slump on
the boards the hell I do. What a movie that's
one of the best. Airplane Yes, yeah, classic. Yeah, I'm
Roger Murdoch. See I'm the co pilots. Tell your dad
to haul a near and yeah, up and down the

(02:30:34):
court Walton Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh am And then finally too,
you know, because he passes out from the fish poison. Yeah,
and he's got the whole goggles everything on as they're
you know, pulling them in the back of the point.
What a great movie. Used to do somebody else didn't? Uh?
Who was it that spoke float jive? What was her name?

Speaker 4 (02:30:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:30:51):
God, wasn't she? Was she not leave it to beaver?
Was she?

Speaker 7 (02:30:55):
Know?

Speaker 1 (02:30:56):
What? Mother? What you know who I'm talking about? Cause, yeah, yeah,
she came she started? Is it Brady Baby? No, it
wasn't Brady Bunch, wasn't it wasn't. Uh. What's her name
in real life? Is something Henderson? It wasn't her. But
just a classic movie, all theough, just walking through the air,
every single line that you look at and say, now
that was That's some funny ass stuff. The uh hair

(02:31:18):
Christnas Oh yeah, Airport flip flipping him over his back,
Roger Roger, Yeah, getting me Rex Kramer and the movie
never gets old. The stuff's gonna hit the fan when
Kramer finds this out, and then it does hit the fan.
Great movie, it really is, for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:31:33):
Al Drew, We'll get to you guys, so we'll wrap
up with a little bit of Astro's conversation. Who knows,
maybe even a sequel talk here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
It's all fair game, like I said, soup to nuts
right here, Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:31:47):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (02:31:50):
Sales. That's beautiful. Drew wants to weigh in here on
The Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (02:31:57):
What's up, buddy, Hey, good morning, Sella's I hope everybody
have another blessed state to day. Wanted to talk a
little Astros and Rockets for the Astros.

Speaker 1 (02:32:06):
Hey, man, we can get hot at any time.

Speaker 6 (02:32:08):
It's still early in the season. I want to implore
my fellow Astros fans to just relax, like Aaron Rodgers said,
because I mean, we got one hundred and fifty plus
more of these things. Trust me, If you observe and
keep your blood pressure in check until ju Lie in August,
life would be much better for you to trust me
and for the Rockets. I'm just so happy man, that

(02:32:31):
playoff basketball is back in Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:32:33):
I'm just too hype.

Speaker 6 (02:32:35):
And with the Dylan Brooks conversation I heard earlier, Yep,
he does have the self inflicted wounds, but if I
remember correctly, and I could be wrong, in the playoff
series that he has played in, he's kept that in check.
So I think when playoffs come around, we all know
it's a different game. But hey, the players. The players
know that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:54):
Too, so so does the coach. I like him on
this team. I think you need it. Everybody needs a
Dylan Brooks. Yeah, great stuff. I'm with him. I just
know you got to guard against it. You know what
you're getting when you get Dylan Brooks. But I think
the good outweighs are bad and I think he was
needed on this team. I think he's a big reason
why that. There's you know, the shift and toughness and stuff.
I think it's important you also know you're a marked man.

(02:33:15):
Like when they went to the monitor last night for
the kick to the groin. I mean, I was kind
of surprised it wasn't the flagrant and he's thrown out
Tony Brothers on the game. But the fact that he
got that it was kind of a all right, we
know what's coming here, because I mean, certain people have
certain reputations. He's one of them. Even when you don't
deserve to get teed up or what have you, or

(02:33:35):
get the wrath, you're gonna get it because that reputation
follows you, no doubt. But I think the positive outweighs
the possibility of something that could happen. I Dylan Brooks,
like I said, when he first got you said, ooh,
do you know what you're getting? And they obviously did.
And while it may be a little risk, the reward's
been pretty big.

Speaker 4 (02:33:53):
So that's like Draymond Green. It's not like he got suspended.
Oh he's on this a couple of times, not really
much of a pattern. No, he's out there suplexing day final.
Finally they're like, all right, enough is enough And then
you wonder, well I'm targeted. Well, of course you're targeted.

Speaker 1 (02:34:06):
You kick the guy in the ball twelve times, you're
putting people on a full Nelson on the floor. Man,
Remember the time he threw the elbow to the guy's
nose and then punched him in the face or tried
to then kicked him when he was down. That might
be part of it. You have a hell of a player,
But damn you're gonna have Mike Breen sounding like the
guy from usc.

Speaker 4 (02:34:21):
Always got him in the triangle. That's that's why it's
gonna soon enough be with ding.

Speaker 1 (02:34:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:34:27):
Yeah, well, I mean at least you could probably switch
up the repertoire a little bit, that's for sure. Jay
is gonna close this out on the phone lines today, Jay,
what's going on?

Speaker 10 (02:34:36):
Hey, before I get to my astro, take who do
we got?

Speaker 4 (02:34:38):
We got Metaworld p s or Anthony Mason on the rockets.

Speaker 1 (02:34:44):
Well, he's probably got a little mix with a little teed.
I mean, he's got a little bit of uh And
that's okay. There's that a little bit of red ass
in both both of those guys too, And I'm okay.
And you know what, both of them were major contributors
to the teams they played on and championships. That's exactly
where right, I'm okay with it. Yeah, But he was
a good player, really good player, all right. And the

(02:35:05):
astros Joe cul you need to play that rookie.

Speaker 10 (02:35:10):
I don't know why you putting them on the bench.
You got to see what he's got, baby Flay Smith.

Speaker 8 (02:35:16):
We got to play him.

Speaker 5 (02:35:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:35:17):
I mean, that's kind of the one.

Speaker 4 (02:35:19):
I appreciate the call, Jade, that's the one that kind
of surprises me. I mean, I get off days here
and there, Sean, but I mean he's a guy that
puts together good at bats, puts the ball in play,
which he's done since he's been here for the first
I guess four games.

Speaker 1 (02:35:32):
Now. I'm not protecting anything about him. I've said it
for the get go, and they're smarter than I am.
They're round it every day. I think he's you put
him out there and get him five hundred and fifty
at bats this year. I do, and I let him
fight through stuff and let him go. I don't want
him to be a sometime guy. I need him and
put him out there every day, give him a break

(02:35:52):
once in a while. But he's young. He can play
one hundred and sixty of them. And I know that
Christian Walker wants to play every day. But some of
these at bats. They could say what they want about
the minor league backfields everything.

Speaker 4 (02:36:02):
No, no, no, no. He was good to go for opening
Day and he showed us then that he looked like
he was. But there's still a little bit of rust
in that swing. Why not today, for example, Zach Dezenzo
at first, Christ Cam Smith out and right.

Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
Yeah. No, I think that I don't have no problem
with the energy both of them bring. But you kept
Cam up here for a reason. I know you want
to protect the star part of it, and he's young,
but man, the only way let him face adversity. It's okay,
And I think they know that this is just my
you know, from my vantage point, he'll learn a lot

(02:36:36):
faster going out their plane every day. I don't want
him to come to the ballpark. I want him to
feel like, yeah, I'm your right fielder and he didn't
have to check the lineup card. I'd like him in
the lineup every day because through the good and the bad,
let's string together five, six, seven, eight, ten games in
a row, get him forty at bats and let's see
what happens.

Speaker 4 (02:36:52):
It's kind of like with this lineup, the old sing
the first guy through the wall gets the bloodiest. I mean,
it seems like it's almost a all right. He wants
to be the first one through the wall because everybody
else behind him knows fully well, like, hey, you drew
the wrong straw. That sucks for you, but we're still
gonna go through the wall. It's just gonna be after you.

Speaker 1 (02:37:07):
But some guys don't mind a punch to the nose
in the face and don't mind a bloody nose because
they know the fight back that they're okay with it.
Nobody likes it, but you're okay with it. And we
all have that guy too. And I just when it
comes to camp, like I said, he's gonna turn the
frant to the hitting around. Who knows if his energy will,
but I just like we said, if he's not playing

(02:37:28):
every day, then then playing where he you gotta get
him at bats every day. He can get at bats
every day. He's not overwhelmed. I just to me, just
like you got al twov playing every day, or you're
done in the lineup, put him in the lineup. Let's
go stick him in the right field. Plus he's gonna
need some more work out there anyway. And it's just
part of the part of the process of being out there.
I don't think you need to protect him. I think

(02:37:49):
he's mentally and physically and emotionally tough enough to handle this.
He's a really talented guy. He needs me in a
lineup that's just me, pitching wise, Hunter Brown be the
stopper today. Yeah, it's a nice got there and keeping that.
The key is he can if he gives up two
or three runs, give him some run support, not just him,
give him some support offensively. And even though it's thirty
some degrees today, hopefully the bats will be a little

(02:38:11):
bit warmer.

Speaker 4 (02:38:12):
Today is the day they break that darn three run plateau.

Speaker 1 (02:38:16):
Let's call it right now. I'm calling it right now.

Speaker 4 (02:38:18):
All right, good stuff today, Sean triple E, Dan Matthews here,
fun stuff. Matt Thomas show with Ross coming up. Astros
Baseball coming your way at just after three, right here
on your home of the Astros Sports Talks seven to ninety.
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