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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury, Old Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this, Sewn Salisbury to usc trous longtime
friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Six until ten, every weekday morning right here on your
home of the Astros and the Rockets Sports Talk seven
to ninety you speaking of those shrows back on the
winning side of things. Yesterday, five to two open up
their series against the Twins in Minnesota. Christian Walker, Jeremy
Panea both homering Rockets get the thunder over at Toyota
Center tonight. No Dylan Brooks suspended for getting that sixteenth

(00:44):
technical and we are one day until uh plays Duke
in the final four tons to be excited about for
the weekend, Sewn, I mean, you know, just starting off
with the Astros, I mean that was a nice change
of pace yesterday. Who knew that they could squirm more
than three runs in a game, and well they pretty
much got out of the way early on.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah they did. And they they not only got out
of the way, but they did it without their leadoff
hit or touch in first base. The old Olympic rings day.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
For I say, yeah, if you get a golden sombrero
for four. I was trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Olympic rings or to my I mean, I grew up
listening it was an Olympic rings or the platinum sombrero
when you strike out five times. So it's one of
the two or both. I've heard both, and those are
the only two references I know to five strikeouts in
a game. I don't I don't think he's had more
than three in a game. Has he. I don't know
if he ever got the golden sombrero, but he got five,

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and they still manage to get it done. But you
saw the guys you need to hit. Rogers got into
the act, Christian Walker got into it, and then you
start to see there's still some things that gotta happen.
But there was some some clutch play and some they
they didn't sit there and let it fester until the
seventh or eighth, the ninth inning, they got it going
and then they turned it over the bullpen and got done.

(02:04):
So it was a it looked a little better because
it was also some eyeballs on some new dudes who
took care of their business yesterday, even though al Tuova
had one. You know, and I think when you've got
that kind of career. In truth, when you got that
kind of career, if you had the kind of career
all ts, all the records you get or are going
to get, I think you have to go. You have

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to get a five strikeout game. I don't think it's
almost like, you know what, I got to add that
to it too. Honestly, it's like, you know, let me
get that in there too. I don't want to leave
that out. With all the good and he's spent. The
truth is that such a free swinger. I'm actually surprised
it hasn't happened before. Yeah, he's not. I mean, he'll
chase bob me and he goes and gets balls out
of strikes on up. It's about as good as anybody.

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And you know, hence why he's leadoff guy whys homered
plenty of times in a lead off spot. But it's
I'm actually shocked that it hasn't. I know, it's hard
to strike out five times in a game, but just
to add that to an illustrious career and say, oh,
anything negative appened the guy, Oh he struck out five
times in the game, was so I would imagine that's
something that a lot of those guys that are got

(03:09):
a bust in the Hall of Fame were wearing. But
the thing for me was get done, get it to
the back end of the bullpen. And they took care
of it and get the new guys going. And I
think it was important and Rogers needed it, and I
think Walker needed it too, just a little to get
it rolling. So and we didn't see anything when we
didn't see, just singles, you know, and small ball. So

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it was a good day and a cold day in
Minnesota to take that win. Anytime you can get it,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I mean especially you know, you factor in how it
all started. I mean that first inning, you get the
triple off a two strike count by Matt Wollner. He
comes in the score off a little I wouldn't even say,
excuse me. It was a blow up swing that Carlos
Korea had and Jeremy Paine you had no play but
to go get him over at first base. And then
you get the just absolute shards going everywhere swing from

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brought Byron Buxton that just falls right in between Brown
Painia even Peretis, who maybe could have tried to come
over and get the ball, but unable to do that
and then you fall behind two nothing, And I mean
it's natural the way that things had gone for the
first six games sewn, especially the four losses, that you're thinking,
oh great, here it goes again, because this is just

(04:21):
the beginning.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, and you're on.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
The road after you struck out to start off, all
three guys down on case.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, it was bingo bango, bongo, and it's you're like, okay, man,
this don't let this be one of those days on
the road. Was a crappy ass way to start a
road trip. But they got back into it, and that's that's.
I mean, there's a lot of things you'd like to
see different happen. Top of your lineup, get pain you're
going again. It'd be nice to get him rolling and
or don long ball and all those things. But I'm

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hoping they'll come. But anytime the new guys come in
and do it at the same time together, it's but
it's easy to fall into that trap like here we
go again. But you don't want to be a here
we go again guy unless it's what the Dodgers are doing,
you winning every day, Right, here we go again, and
it's uh, and you fall into that trap eight nine
games into the season. So nice that they got that

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one and they did break that three run threshold.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
It was good.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
If I had told you that Jose l two van
Jordon Alvarez yesterday would have gone oh for nine with
seven strikeouts, I think your response would have been.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Early in the season, I would have said, it won't
be the last time. Okay, it wouldn't have shocked me
the way it's gone so far, right, it would not
have shocked me if you asked it now. If you
ask it, if it was the Dodgers or the Yankees
are playing and swing at the bat once again, Judge
what drives in four and Homer's again and doubles, I
probably would have said, it won't be the last time,

(05:47):
but hopefully not too many more.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, combined uh one through three of L two, v
Peritis and Alvarez yesterday, oh for twelve, and there were
eight strikeouts in those twelve at bats. But that was
then not so great From the Astros lineup. I mean
you mentioned Christian Walker. It's nice to see him get going.
Brendan Rodgers, I mean it was, yeah. Now he's got

(06:09):
his average up to three thirteen on the season. So
good to see him and true to form. I mean,
I threw it out there yesterday on the show Sean
that I would give Janner die As a day off,
and Joe Espotta, I don't think he was necessarily listening
to us, but maybe it got to him of saying,
you know what, Yeah, let's let's give him a day off,

(06:30):
work on some things, get the off day, and then
we'll get him back in the lineup on Saturday. More
than likely.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Man well and Victor Kartini did his thing yesterday, played well,
and Devens made an ice catch now the third base line.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
But hit.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
This is who the guy is. You can count on
him to do pretty much. He's one of the best.
I don't even the utility sounds so like you don't
need him, you know. I mean, I know we used
that phrase to the Swiss Army and k Ife utility guy,
and they're so valuable. But his ability to just come
in and he hits like he's an everyday player, like

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he sees at bats all the time, and he's obviously
good with pitching staffs and he just a really really
when both of them are going good. When Diaz is
hitting the ball, at the ballpark and playing well, you
may very well have. I'm thinking across the league. I
know there's and maybe getting out ahead of myself here,
And I do not mean this hyperbolic. I believe this.

(07:25):
I think you have two of the best kids the
depth wise, as far as two go. If very few
teams I could go to in the league and say,
your backup catcher plays one hundred and fifty games because
your starter got hurt, what would you look like offensively?
Usually I well, listen, I'm not sure over the course
of the season. As much as I like Yaner Diaz's

(07:48):
power and he's a great player, are going to be
a great player, I believe. I'm not sure by the
end of the year Kartine's numbers wouldn't look exactly the same.
Maybe not the home runs, but average and driving in
runs and the other things that go with hitting, not
just hitting the ball in the ballpark. I'm not so
sure Kartene wouldn't be I think I think he puts
the bat on the ball. For a guy who doesn't

(08:09):
play much, that guy, like I said, it feels like
he gets five hundred bats because he's got He's got
pretty damn good commands, so he is. He makes that
depth when he's in the lineup. I don't feel like,
Oh Diaz is rest even when he's going good, Oh
Diaz is out. As much as I liked Diaz, that's
not that big a fallof for me. It's just not
I think that if you started Victor Krotene one hundred

(08:30):
and fifty games, you would not come out of the
season saying no production on offense from the catcher's position.
I don't believe it at all. And in truth, he's
been He also may very well be even better at
this stage of his career at hand, I mean a
little more seasoned at how he handles defense and pitching well.
The yiner continues to grow. So that's one of the

(08:51):
best depth wise catching positions in baseball. It just is so,
especially offensively when both of them are going and as
they continue to learn, so I him Roger, it was
so there was not the other guys as far as
starters go, but the other guys that you need to
get going. Victor comes in, does his thing, Rogers Walker
do their thing. Is new guys. So now once you

(09:12):
know al Twov's not gonna live with five strike that's
of course once in eight million games. And then you know,
at some point Paine has got to get hot, and
you know Jordan's gonna load some people on his back
here soon. So you'll take the win anyway you can
get it. But I like a win that's got The
other guys are the ones that carried the win yesterday.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
No, it's huge, and I mean, you know, with Kartini,
he talked about the bats of ball skills that he's got.
I mean, he puts together a hell of an at
bat every time he's up there. That's why they probably
felt so comfortable of when they were making their decisions,
telling John Singleton, hey man, really appreciate last year, but
we kind of got your position filled, I'm sorry to
tell you. And I mean, you know, we've seen him

(09:50):
be able to fill in over at first base. So
all of those things make him an incredibly valuable part
of this team. And it's good to you see him
get it going at yesterday. But you know you talked
about the extra base hits. The Astros with three doubles
in the game and also a couple of homers, so
you match your homer total for the season and you

(10:11):
go one above the extra base hits that you had
had before that point, so both good.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, and you you're the ones who scores more than
three runs and the other team doesn't. That makes it
a pretty good day. And then and no stress at
the end of the game either. So it was a
good thing.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
No, it absolutely was. And the Astros able to take
care of business there in Minnesota. They're off today, so
they will get back at it tomorrow. Spencer Arraghetti on
the mound for.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
That very weird who takes Fridays off in Major League Baseball?

Speaker 4 (10:41):
They've had the weirdest one. I mean, because Fridays and
Sundays normally you don't have off. But today the Astros
get a nice off day. And it's funny too. I
was texting Sparky, I go, what does an off day
in Minneapolis look like? Is that pickled heiring somewhere?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Is it too warm now by their standards to go
ice fishing somewhere out there?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Your borderline on that with the ice fishing there still
maybe able to get it in, but your your your
borderline for how much longer you got the ice fish
in the spring there? Yeah, having lived there obviously, so borderline,
but did he give an answer.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, he he did go along with the yeah, yeah,
probably going to be some pickled hearing. And then you know,
I'd also reached out to their their on site producer,
on site engineer Matt Boltz and said, hey, I heard
that Robert arranged ice fishing for you guys.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
He said, yeah, that's true, and then I threw the
snoiling to you.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
We're right, the gift from grumpy old men because I
think it was in Minnesota, so might have been.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, so I'm in Minnesota the Dakota's, but I think
it was Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, so you know those guys have those I don't
even know what those hats are.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I call him hats with ear muff. Yeah, yeah, so
maybe you'd have that. But anyway, being with with your
ears covered is basically with the ear flaps kind of thing. Yeah,
if you look like an idiot, they're kind of goofy
looking round. You find that in what's the other movie Fargo? Yeah,
I can Fargo, where everybody in town you go to
the local diner and they wore it inside and then

(12:08):
took it off to eat, and then they're gonna put it
all back and they all look the same. It's like everybody.
It's like every middle aged white guy or older white
guy in Cleveland Airport, they all they all look like
you know, they all look like Eric Mangini. You know
what I'm saying. That's that's everybody. Just oh yeah, I
saw you in a Cleveland airport. No, that was one
of about seven hundred of US or in an I

(12:30):
owe em as I joke, but you get my point.
But in Minnesota, I'm gonna tell you one thing, though,
Steve loves to play golf if the weather was fifteen
degrees warmer and no snow on the gun. I mean
as we work into like this month, that there's some
when and they start to mature. I mean and like
the green comes out and the snow's off the ground.

(12:51):
Golf course there some of the best golf courses on
the planet that I've ever played, and maturity with the
tree are there, and I know Steve has probably done
it many a time. But on and off day, if
you get out there and you know, somebody get on
Hazel teen where they've had the US Open or one
of those phenomenal golf courses there, I don't have to
tell Steve that. I'm sure he's had a compass and

(13:12):
a GPS right to him on a warm day. But
there's a good enough golf courses that if you can
handle playing in forty two degree weather whatever what was
it thirty five or something yesterally, if you can handle
it in the forties with no wind and the golf
course is clear, that you take your clubs with you
on a trip like that because there's some phenomenal place
to play. So that'd be my first thought. But I

(13:33):
still know that there's still two snowstorms away from being done.
I'm sure, right right.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I mean, you know, he hadn't even reached May yet.
And it's funny that you mentioned that, because, I mean,
we would get the four seasons in Atlanta and it
was less humid, And when I would tell people that
if it's like a mid forties day no wind, I
was like, it's actually not that bad.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
So I mean, and you sometimes will wear short sleeves. Yeah,
good forty I mean, first of all, it's perfect playing
sports as football weather, but no wind. You give me
in the mid forties pushing fifty to forty five degrees
no wind, and it's spring. It's clear skies when I'm

(14:15):
I mean, I may wear a long sleeve golf shirt
or something, but I'm not. I'm you know, performance hoodie,
but I'm I'm all in. That doesn't bother me at all.
I'd rather play in that than sixty degrees in thirty
mile an hour winds or seventy degrees in thirty mine
hour wins like we're getting these last few days. Yeah,
I mean, you got to hit a driver from wedge.
You know, you're a hitting driver from one thirty off

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the deck, So yeah, give me that without wind. Wind
in sports sucks. It just does, unless, of course you're
hitting you're in Wrigley or Fenway and the wins blowing
out and pop flies end up on Waveland or you know,
Landsdown Street. So yeah, take him anyway you can get them,
and that's a good win for them. But I'm sure
Steve Sparks will have you, will find something plenty to do.

(14:58):
Good restaurants there too, He'll have fun. It's those days
there on Lansdown. You gotta tell the sausage guy heads up,
Oh yeah, they know it's coming. Yeah, because they're guarantee
they're they're right in the way of on landsdown right
there in front of the cask and flag and just
down that street, wait and get themselves hit with the
baseball that flies out of the Fenway Park, which I'm
sure has happened many a time. It wouldn't be the
first person who got hit. You and I both know

(15:20):
that there, it'd.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Be some poor schmuck walking over from Kenmore Square to
the ballparking. Oh god, I just wore one lands right
and his Fenway Frank, there you go, there you go
with the Golden's mustard. I remember that from the last
time I went out there. Oh it's awesome. It's awesome.
Some are out there like I'm just like God had
like this, this is unreal. And then you're reminded, oh, yeah, hey,

(15:42):
the winter time around here blows. So don't don't do it.
Don't don't tempt fate.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Right, all right, So.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
We'll get into a little bit of the koog's here
because some kook fans out there getting a little creative
on the political side. We'll let you know about that
also too. We'll get in some Texans here as the
show goes along, Sewan, because well, it seems like the
Texans have already started pining for a new facility. We'll
discuss that, but coming up next, I think the decision

(16:10):
in my mind has been made about this astro and
it's gonna be really hard to get me off this.
So we'll talk about that right here. Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Let the celebration start. War Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean
Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
And the body of work is there. Hunter Brown's your
race of the staff. I don't think there's any question
about it. Where he gave you ace level stuff yesterday
and it looked like in the beginning it was not
going to be that. You're kind of like, uh, oh,
is this kind of the Hunter from last year? Is
maybe April a tough time for him, but caps it
off at two runs, and then after that kind of

(16:51):
looked over to the Minnesota dugout and said, oh, it
ain't going that way today, guys, So you better you
better be ready for some uncomfortable at bats because they're
coming your way. And he was able to set up
his offense to go to work. And it's nothing against
fromber it really isn't. But damn man, I can't have
the ace of my staff where it's Hey, what guy

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are we going to get today? Cause it's seriously, Sean,
it's that way with him every single time he takes
the mound where you get good fromber, the ground balls,
all that kind of stuff that's fun. But then the
problem is you get Josh Miller going out there and saying, dude,
get your head on straight, let's go.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I think, and you always know you're going to
get that stint from him at some point during the season,
and sometimes more often than not. Listen, we can say
what we want. He's controlled, he's a hell of a
he's got great stuff. The only thing preventing him from
being a cy young candidate every year is him getting
out of his own way and being able to handle

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this stuff and not let the emotion of a bad
call or you know, you can see it start to come.
He backs off the mound, pulls his hat out. You know,
we all know the look that he gives stroll right right, yeah, so,
and then the smile, the uncomfortable smile on his face
where it's not really a smile but he's trying not to.
It feels to me like that smile before you you
want to explode right and lose it and I and

(18:11):
I get it, and I listen, I competitive and getting
after it. But the problem is you don't want it
to work to your disadvantage. And for him when he's
had a weakness, it's been that I don't think there's listen,
I can I understand why the fourth year in Row
they ran from brout. There's an I get it, but
it may not be A fifth doesn't mean I'm talking
about runing out there first as the opening day because

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the guy behind him, in Hunter Brown, the first six
weeks or so or whatever it was last year was
like oof. So he got it. There was one point
on talk on this show it started to get does
he need to go down to the minor leagues and
get his stuff right? It's it was looking that bad.
And yet the year then you hear Steve Spars come
on say Sean, it's just and Steve Sparks said it perfectly,

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And I'm telling you it almost felt to me like
Hunter Brown was sitting in the studio with us listening
to Steve Sparks. Steve said, Sean, when he starts to
take basically the ends, takes the inside part of plate.
You know, he throws hard and do it, and I'm
I'm damn near to tell you it felt like the
next start he did it and he started to pitch

(19:15):
more and control it and use that to his advantage.
And from then on the guy was a dominant pitcher.
Now I don't know, sometimes it's coincidental, but where he
was locating the pitch wasn't. And whether it's Steve and
Steve's not the time guy will go back, go up
and say, hey, here's some he's not giving you advice
and I love it on here, but you know he

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gets it. He was a pitcher and he understands all that.
But somehow, some way, somebody got to him because from
then on, Hunter Brown has been an ACE. And I'm
one hundred percent with you. I I think Fromer's really good.
He's going to command a lot of money. Ace left
handers always do right, big money they do. But I
can tell you this, and the middle part gets in

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the way. That part prevents him from being one of
the If he had the same if his mental when
we say mental, it feels like he's a mental weekly No,
if he could control his emotions and it matched his
his his stuff, dude, Yeah, he at time a lot
of times be unhittable. He's that good with with some

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of his stuff. So and as a ground ball pitcher,
you're gonna you're gonna get a lot of people out right.
But Hunter Brown, I would tell you right now in
twenty twenty six, I think you're going to start to
that that's the guy you're going to start to run
out first. No, he's overpowering and has got stuff, and
he doesn't even know how to pitch just yet. He's
I mean, he's that young, you know what I mean,

(20:40):
And I mean that affectionately. That wait till he understands
that that you can when he's going right and has
and has like a Verlander mentality. If he I'm going
to pitch in the the veteran mental that comes with
understandable like a hitter. It's been through it six seven years.
I get it once he gets to that point of
that kind of command too. All Right, you're talking about

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one of the best rioties in the game. And at
one point a year ago from this time, we wondered
if the guy belonged in the starting rotation and in
a major league level the way he started these first
six to eight weeks, and then he decided to pitch
whatever it was a little different, little more aggressive and
basically gave everybody the middle finger, and you saw the result.
And that dude's going to be a dominant pitcher in

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this league. Jeff Blum.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, he's proven that at least so far. But Jeff
Blum joins the A team every week. And last year
he had the line about his fastball. He called it
an fu fastball, is what Hunter Brown has. And then
you talked about to commanding that inside part. Alex Bregman
was a huge part of that of telling him, dude,
use that sinker two scene, whatever you got and start
shredding bats.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, and you know what, that's just as much your
as it is theirs. And when you're a big fellow
like him who can bring it and shred bats but
also back people off and then you know, throw something away,
the ability to go in there and not worry about it.
You know, fray that you leave one out and somebody's
going to turn on one and stuff, but you got
enough stuff. What hitters don't want is you to finally

(22:08):
realize you're good enough to come in there. They don't
want that. And he is. I think that Hunter Brown's
already the ace of this staff now is who you
run out first is irrelevant right now. But I'm just
telling you. If I had to win a Game seven
of the World Series today and it was three to
three and both of them had equal amount of rest

(22:29):
Fromer's coming in second, if all hands are on deck,
he ain't coming in first. Yeah, that's just my opinion
because I just think there's a different mentality when things
start to go south. It would have been easy for
Hunter Brown to wilt last year and say damn and
go and I'm talking about to get away from it,

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have the yips for a while, but he got after
it quickly. So for me, as much as I respect
from or you tell me right now, I got a
must win game, single elimination. Everybody's rested. The first that
goes out there is a guy you saw pitch yesterday.
That's my choice. At least that would be unless you
feel like, will he be better? He can pump up
that fastball if we had all hands on deck. But
for me, the decision would be I don't know easy,

(23:13):
but I guess it would be matchup. But you'd have
a good idea of that. But if I got to win.
I'll take Hunter Brown.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I trust him one hundred percent more than I trust
the guy that was a huge part of winning the
World Series in twenty twenty two. I don't think there's
any doubt about that. A little bit more on this
also too, gonna weave in some Texans conversation. They were
in the news yesterday for a different reason. We'll talk
about all of that right here. Sean Salisbury Show, The.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Shawn Salisbury Show continued. You kind of touched on it.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
I mean, the Astros make the postseason this year, and
let's just say that it's very similar to last year
year in the wildcard round. I mean that first game,
the tone was set. The tone was set where you
fell behind early and you're trying to be able to
come back, you can't get the hit. It was pretty
similar to what the Astros offense had looked like for
the first six games. A bunch of singles and you know,

(24:07):
just really trying to grind this thing out. But I
trust Hunter Brown in that situation a thousand times more.
Where Fromber again, look twenty twenty two Fromber in the
World Series where they really needed that win in Game two,
he saved them. He went out there, he pitched the
way that we believed he could, and it was like, okay, hey,
we can breathe a little bit. We got to win.

(24:28):
We're going up there. It's not going to be easy.
Game three was an abject disaster, and then Game four,
five and six, well they went the way that they went.
But I mean, you talk about am Drive for example,
what do you think the corner office wants out of us?
They want a cannon shot, They want the day to
start off right, they want the day for people to
be energized, entertained, all of those things. If we're coming

(24:52):
in here just well you know the astros last night.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, we we are energy to start when you turn
it on. You don't want to be bored to death.
It's by six twenty. They're like, I can't do this, yeah,
number one. So it's got to be what we do.
Morning drives different got to entertain because listen, no offense,
nobody wants statistics for four straight hours. We give a
boring show like that, I'd turn us off too.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Hat on a half.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, so you got it, we're right. I mean, good gracious,
I want my goal always on a show like this
Morning Drive and it's different from other timeslots. Maybe if
you're just lead into a pregame show in the afternoon,
you know, the timeslots are different for us. You got
to talk sports because its important because we're the first
one out of the gate to tell them what happened
the night before. They didn't see it. Sure. Secondly, to

(25:34):
get them involved because one thing I've known about listeners
and fans and too many broadcasters and like talent as
we call it loosely across the country and wherever all
of us. As I said, I use it loosely. I
don't look at myself like that. But is that we
think that because we're the ones to turn on the mic,
we know it all and then we saw it all.
I've learned over the years thirty of them to actually

(25:57):
trust in a lot of these fans because they may
have seen something we did and I do, and it's
important so to come in and say, well, we got
all the ends. Now we don't. That's why we turn
on the damn microphone and our phone line so we
can not only entertain and have fun and we want
them to feel like it's family, but we also you
want to entertain them, so I think you got to
stop them in their driveway where they're late getting to

(26:17):
work because you've got a great story or a great guest,
or we're laughing our ass off. You got to make
them laugh where they spit up their coffee and or
pissed at you because they dirty their suit, or you know,
they're tied because you made them laugh, which we've done
and most of the laughs, well give is because we're
just dumb asses, and that's a good thing. And then
you've got to get them to the point the wow
factor of I had no idea or strong opinion I

(26:41):
or the I can't believe Dan or sean Ja. They
just said that there's no frigging way I want Hunter
Brown over fromber to open up those type of things.
But you're right, it's the same thing about baseball or
going and I know your comparison is getting out of
the shoot. The office expects you to come out there
and entertain and pave the road for the rest of
the day to where preset by the way on the

(27:01):
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And by the way, we told you early in the
week we are charging. We not only charge, we blew
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So we're right now and what used to be the
number one spot hitting in the three hole so across

(27:22):
this country and we're charging. So hit that preset on
the free iHeartRadio app and put it on there and
start with us and go through the whole day of
a great lineup. But that is it, and it's different
because sometimes you got to be able to laugh, you
got to be able to hand. You got Some people
are pissed in the morning, they're tired, they had a
bad night, they didn't sleep well, and if they turn
us on, far be it for us to have to
bore them or tell them something they already know. But

(27:44):
the banter, and I think it's important for us because
sometimes when you're dragging ass we are, do you need
somebody to say something funny, oh man, or to fire
you up right? So you're right, And it does apply
to sports, and it applies to the astros. Exactly where
you're going with that playoff as well. Eat that breakfast
bus hitt in the car. That's that's that's what we want. Yeah, yeah,
Or you know when you get to the office and

(28:07):
you're like, man, this meeting starts in ten minutes, and
all of a sudden, they're rolling and they're laugh or
they're yelling at the radio because we said I can't
believe this, or they're having their their you know, spitting
their drink through their nose because we're just having a blast,
and then they're late for their meeting and they got
to get their heads left. No, if I don't want

(28:27):
anybody get in trouble, but that tells me that you're
doing the right thing. And Morning Drive you's got to
be all of it combined. It can't just be oh great,
thanks you told us what happened in the fourth inning
with the back of the guy who walked and then
walked slowly to first base and bah blah blah blah blah,
I'd quit, okay if we had to do that for
four hours a day. So it's entertained. The truth is

(28:48):
Morning Drive starts with an E, not with a S.
Sar's entertainment not sports. Sports is if sports is a
part of that vertical you're trying to get across. The truth.
Thing is, if you entertain, people will always want to
be a part of it. If you're good and you
can entertain the fans, you'll always have a spot in
pro sports. And Hunter Brown, like I said, I don't
care if it's the wild Card. I don't care if
it's the World Series. For me right now, I would

(29:10):
I would, and it was one game, all or nothing,
winner take all. Hunter Brown's starting for me out If
he doesn't go well, then I got the all hands
on deck. But Hunter Brown is starting for me no
matter what the situation, from the just the way I
believe in him that I just think there's he's got
a he's got a bulldogman. He's got the mentality of

(29:31):
a guy fighting for his job and the talent of
a white collar genius. It's what we talk can sell anything, right,
It's what we talked about yesterday with the Rockets with
Dylan Brooks and Fred van Vliet. Even at a young age,
he seems like he's already kind of got that of
oh you're not taking me out off this mound like
you put me out here. I'm that guy. Listen, you
want a guy Clint Hurdle told me this the other

(29:53):
day on the show. I interviewed him on not that
we did Local, but also on another show, and he
said he had to be a picture. My guy, AJ Burnett,
he said, when he went out to getting I said,
who was who'd you fight with the most as a player?
He goes, oh, Aj we we we He said. I
love the guy, but it didn't matter. He goes, I'd
go out to the mound and halfway out there he'd
be looking. He said, Oh, he'd walk off the mound respectfully,

(30:17):
but he would be respectful for other players walk off
the mountain. And then by the time because he'd get
there first, because you're waiting for the next picture to
come in, he said, ajb waiting either in the dugout,
down the clubhouse steps and just get get your ass
down here, and they'd hash it out and fight. What
are you doing pulling me out? I mean getting after

(30:38):
it right, And he said, but he loved it because
he was respectful, walked up to the mountain. This is
my manager, you know, But man, he said, AJ was
just He said, I loved managing him because he was
just a He was nasty in the right way, and
I honestly believe you're off. Your pitcher has to have
the same mentality poisoned and calm, but poison and calm
of a quarterback under duress and two minute drive, but

(31:01):
also the nasty I always beg for with offensive linemen.
You got to want you. You got that you're willing
to get kicked out of a game because they cheap
shot at your quarterback. To make sure that they know
that that doesn't get to happen. You're willing is a
pitcher to get kicked out of a game. They're hunting
your guys. They're hunting your guys too often because they're
bitter about twenty seventeen like you saw, or because somebody homewred.

(31:26):
You're a coward if you're known protect team. I honestly
believe if Hunter Brown, I'm just using him as an
example that type of guy, and he I think he's
got that side of the nasty, but the poise mixed
in and the fight that if you decided to go
go hunting their players down because you're bitter at them,
there is no doubt he'd get kicked out of a
game in a second inning and sacrifice a win. An

(31:46):
opportunity to win, to pluck a guy in a ribcage,
if you have to send that message. I fully, one
hundred percent believe he did not end up trying to
hurt a guy, but protecting your teammates. That's who he is,
and that's why when you have that mixed with poise
and talent, it makes for a pretty good trifecta. I
think he's got all those and I need that. I
want that guy. Listen, was Clemons afraid to hit you?

(32:07):
Hell no, he was. How about Pedro Martine? Pedro Martinez,
would he'll throw it? He would have told you, and
he made sure you knew what was doing and said,
let's go get some. All the all the great ones
smartly know how to take care of that. And the
great ones usually protect their teammates. And I think Hunter
Brown's built like that. Plus he's got a forearm tattoo.
Forearm tattoos usually mean you're a man's man. There you go,

(32:32):
there you go, there, you do the work. I'm not
pitching today, but I do have full sleeves and forum tattoos,
so I guess I'm a tough guy.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Now, you're a man's man unless your name is Mike Clevenger,
and you're doing a fake tough guy video about the astros.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
You're big on. You're big with Clev, Eve and Clever
tight Man. He sucks, You're down on Clev. No, I'm
down on Cleve walk what they what if Clev was
pitching here now all of a sudden started pitching here
and he walked in the room and said, hey man,
the guest of parents, But can I stay an hour?
Instead of just one segment? You said, come on in,
Cleve ground game, Cliff, come on in? Can I get

(33:09):
you a cup of coffee and swing off your nuts?
Is that what you'd say to Kles.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
I'd start off with the charm offensive, being nice, but
then I'd just be like, why he's such a fake
tough guy?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Is how you're doing? The video had him laughing, so
so he kind of fit is off fake instead of
right when he walked in, bitch, Yeah, take tough guys,
sit on down for an hour? Right there you go.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
You want to you want the ground game, You're about
to get it.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
By the end of the show, you'll be calling him
Clev and seeing if we could have a beer a
haircut together.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
No haircut? Well, he wouldn't get the haircut. I would,
but uh no, jeez, certain people man. From twenty seventeen,
it's made some people crazy. And to your point too
about the meeting the Shawn Salisbury show. We'll vouch for you.
We'll vouch for you.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
You got me.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, we'll vouch for you absolutely. You tell your sales
manager whoever, give us a call. We'll we'll vouch for you,
and say, hey, man, won't you let your people have
a little bit of fun? The hell's your problem?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah? Well, not only would vouch for you we'll come
is that you're working there, we go, there, you go.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
We could do that too.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Well, well, especially if you're an advertise you come out
here in advertise with us, we'll come over there and
uh and and bring lunch to your damn you to
your staff and tell them, hey, get yourself in line.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Motivational speak. Yeah, your people, your people deserve to have fun.
Fun means good things, all right, Uh coming up next.
Usually sequels aren't a great thing, but for these two,
well they could be. And Steve, see you're right there.
We'll get you in on the conversation you want to
join them seven one three two one two five seven
ninety against seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
You know what, I usually sequels, I look to the who,
the if, the actor, the same one, if it was
a good first one, like for instance, Mission Impossible. I
haven't seen a bad one. Yeah, I mean some some
may be a little better than others. I haven't seen
a bad one. Okay, So and you know the Bond
SERI and when it comes series as opposed to sequels, right,
But to me, it's the actor. Like when Equalizer first

(35:05):
came out and you saw Denzel in the first one.
When the second one was coming out, it was a
no brainer to watch because of who it was more
than the sequel. So to me, it's who's in it,
not who it is, And it's like we're getting it.
We got the new d DNA Thieves came out, right,
did you see the first one? Yes? I did with
with yeah, right. The second one's right and it's good too.

(35:28):
So when I saw both were in it, it's like, okay,
this is going to be good. And then you know
the Wick series, But once the first one was over,
you're like, oh, I can't wait to see the second one.
So yeah, man, I you know what, most of the
time I think, leave well enough alone. But when it
comes to some of these, like like the Mission Impossible
series or Reacher, I want more Reacher movies. Well there's

(35:48):
another guy. Whether you like Tom Cruise or not, when
it comes to just being able to beat all kinds
of different hats, the dude's a pretty brilliant actor when
you really think about it. Whether you like his goofiness
or not, or is his religion stuff that he does whatever, scientology,
the fact of the matter is the guy prints money
for studio houses, movie house he does, there's no question.

(36:09):
And his running you got to get his run in
every single one. So I guess for me, this sequel
depends on if it's the same dudes that make me
or the females whatever, it is the same actors that
I love the first one, and if it's the majority
of them, it's worth a second goal for me, and
it's a no brainer. But rarely does the second one
better than the first, but it does happen. I actually

(36:30):
thought Top Gun Maverick was just as good, if not
better than the first one. Fantastic. It's just the history,
the history of the first one, right who was in it,
but if you look through and some of the coolness
of it. I actually thought the second one was pretty
damn impressive.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Once upon a Time in Hollywood might be a sequel,
and that movie was really funny, it great cast. It
was David Fincher apparently going to direct this.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
One right there, you know you got a chance. Yeah,
and success because he's he's a monster in the industry
by Tarantino and you know what you're gonna get. Right.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Most of the plot details are unknown, and it's unclear
if DiCaprio is gonna be part of it, but it
might be centered around Cliff Booth, who was Brad Pitt's character.
And you know with Pitt, me and you talked about
this scene off the air cracks me up every time
of when the manson you know, Disciples come to his house. Yeah,
and you know, Hey, what's your name? I know you? You

(37:23):
know you were on a horsey I'm your worst nightmare? No, no, no,
it was something dumber than shot him text.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Oh that's right text, Yeah, classic the dog. Yeah, I
benched a lot of people haven't seen that. I mean,
maybe they did because the cast that was in it.
But I thought it was a pretty cool movie.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I liked it, and I'll watch the sequel. Just it
starts with not only the cast, but the two guys
you just mentioned, and with Tarantino, Dan Fincher, those are
you're gonna have to really screw up for it not
to work. And Tarantino, he doesn't get cheated when it
comes to the blood and Gore get cheated. That's he's
He's a subtle as a sledgehammer to the head.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, all of them, that's exactly I mean. Pulp fiction,
the Kill Bills series.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Good lord man, he's well the wasn't he part of
the Magnificent Seven movie as well?

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Right?

Speaker 4 (38:22):
All all of a sudden, the guy eating the breakfast
biscuit in the car, Now they're kind of like, Dan,
that was a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Now, thanks buddy.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
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we are, all right, coming out next We're gonna get
political just a little bit, and I'm promising you it's
gonna have you in your feels. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 4 (39:25):
Rocket's gonna get the thunder tonight over at Toyota Center,
and you of H's gonna take on Duke tomorrow in
the Final four. Speaking of you of H, Sean, We're
fully aware of the Ted Cruz curse and we have
been on the wrong side of it here in Houston.
I think he was at both LCS games against the
Rangers back in twenty twenty three. He I mean, in fairness,

(39:50):
though he was there for Game six of the World
Series in twenty twenty two, so you do have that.
But I know that it was pointed out by Texas
fans that he was in New Orleans when they lost
to Washington in the Sugar Bowl part of the College
football playoffs. So it's been laid out well. You of
H fans are taking things into their own hands. A
petition has been launched on change dot Org a late

(40:11):
Wednesday urging Ted Cruz to challenge New Jersey Senator Corey
Bookers recently set philibuster record of twenty five straight hours,
and they're challenging him and rooting for him, saying, hey, Ted,
you know, hey, Saturday would be a really good time
for you to do that. And if you're gonna take

(40:32):
it even a step further, Okay, say Saturday works, well,
then you know, do you try to tell Ted rest
up on Sunday and then get after it on Monday nights?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah? So you want THEO, THEO Cruz to filibuster and
break a record, so he's not at the ballgame, that's
the goal. Do we are we gonna blame it on THEO?
What if he goes and they win the national title?
Curse broken? Or is this like Babe Ruth the Bambi?
Do we are we calling Ted Cruise the Bambino?

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Well, I guess you would be the opposite of the
bambino in this case because it wasn't ever in Boston
necessarily about the Babe. I mean, I guess there was
like some piano at the bottom of a lake or
something and they said, you know, there was that it
was the trade more than anything. But I mean the
curse breaker, I would say for that was Pedro and
the bloody sock of shilling.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
That good, good point, the bloody sock of shilling epic. Right,
So we're saying that Ted Cruz needs to fill a
bus or just not go. Is that? And if they're
signing a petition, they're taking this pretty damn serious.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
I was gonna say, I mean, I think there's that,
but it's also too If anything in life, you gotta
have a backup plan here, Like I think, if you're
these CMU of H fans, hey start a go fund me,
pull some money together and say, hey Ted, Ted, Ted,
there's no need for air travel, hotels, all that kind
of stuff. Security even you know you don't eat any
of that. We're gonna send over some wings, We're gonna

(41:56):
send over some beer, We're gonna we're gonna send over
some good times for you and what else beats the
creature comforts.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Of home, right, But we'll take care, we'll cater it
for you if you'll just stay home and watch it.
Do you think I got one of guys like that?
Do you think THEO knows about that. Did people feel
that way?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
He's challenged people on it with his idea.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I have, I've seen that part. So he does he
know this? He's got to know that south there. Yes,
he is aware that it's out there. I feel like
THEO is the tie and I, like I said, I
feel like he might be the type of guy. He's
a good debater, really good. Yeah, he might be the
type of guy that, oh, really that now because of
this shows up and sits courtside. That's okay, the opposite. Yes,

(42:40):
that's what I'm saying. I had a better idea. If
you encourage him to come, I can't go. You guys
go without me. I got stuff to do with working
Texas and we've got stuff going on, and I'd love
to go, Hey, go Koog's Kelvin's got this handled boom.
But now you've given him the Oh you backed me
into a corner. Where I come from, it's cornbread and chicken,

(43:01):
but where Ted comes from, it's probably well you hit Like,
Now I got a battle back because I'm a debate
You got me. Now I got to come back and
defend why I should be there. But I defend it
the he might use that reverse where it's like, oh,
you're telling me to go filibuster and head that way
ahead of east. Now I'm telling you where I'm headed.
I'll be in San Antonio at four o'clock on Saturday

(43:22):
or whatever. You know what time? What are they five
and seven thirty or five thirty and.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Eight or hey, I think are going to be like
seven forty five tomorrow? Is what's on? The game tips
off at.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
And that's the early game. No, it's okay, So I'm
saying forty five and seven something or five and seven, right, yeah,
because the Koog's are the late game at almost eight o'clock,
seven fifty five forty five, So Ted get there early
and maybe see he's maybe the type that, oh is
that right? Well, here's where I'm going to be. And
I'm sitting right behind coach Sampson. So I don't know, man,

(43:55):
but I get why they listen. We all are looking
for that in truth, that superstated whatever does that outfit
that hat that gets them over the top. I don't
think that coach would. I shared this only because of
my affinity for him, and I continue to see this.
And Clint Hurdles also said this and I refer to

(44:18):
these coaches a lot whove had success and hit you know,
whatever their rock bottom, like Clint Hurdle has, he's been
sober for twenty five years. But as a manager, you know,
as far as we are, we developing talent in sports,
in baseball, or he said, I'm not worried about developing talent.
These kids are talented, but he is. But you give
the top priority. He goes developing people, meaning your relationship

(44:42):
with people and developing them and the talent. The talent
will shine through when all the rest is take care of.
And I think in this case it's the same way
with coach Sampson. And we text a lot, and you know,
through the tournament. The only reason I say, not a
pat on the back, but how I perceive him and
who he exactly is. And I think this is with him,
perception is reality. It's it's fair when it comes to this.

(45:04):
And so a lot of times I've never heard Coach
Sampson when we have had conversation or when I've talked
to him about basketball or his team or just life.
I've never had him say I or me in it.
Never I went and searched. I can't find it anywhere.
And the reason I say that is during the middle
of this tournament, I send him a message, congrats, coach,

(45:25):
I'm moving on the next round. Go give this is
what a blast to watch you guys is you've earned this,
and you and you blah blah blah whatever. And his
response is always, you know, positive, but it's always about others.
Excited for these kids, he said, appreciate Sean, excited about
our team, great kids. That was two weeks ago. So

(45:47):
I send him a message about good luck in this one.
I'm excited for you guys. You've earned this, coach. He goes, Yeah,
Sir Sean, our kids will fight their ass off. It's
always about what they're going to do. How And I
can go back to you, dude, I say, I can

(46:09):
go back a year ago and a year previous, and
he'll always somehow it won't be the same text. But
the focus is always on what he thinks should be
the focus, not him, not his his journey, these players
and these kids and what it means to them and
what they mean to him. And there's something to be

(46:29):
said for that. And I'm a firm believer. I'm glad
we hit on this that no matter what happens, that
he'll they'll they'll come out better. But nobody wants to
hear that it's final four. We want to hear win
this one on Saturday and then go win it on
Monday and be the national champions. Obviously that's the goal.
But he loves them, man, and and I think that
a lot of times when you hear it from a coach,

(46:51):
it's like, well, you'd hear it from everybody. And he
loves I think each class a different way. You know,
he's got an affinity for different players, different reasons and
different you know, tough love all the way down to
put your arm around him. But he gives both. So
I just am always I feel comfortable because I know
that as hard as he coaches them, it is really
truly about them, and I think they know it. And
when they know they're cared about and another hurdleism, when

(47:16):
they know they're cared about, for the most part, they'll
give you something more. And at a time when in
college sports you're not sure who cares about who, Yeah,
with money and nil and transferport alo, I love you,
I love you, I love you. A year later, the
players gone, did he really love you, and then the
coach the same way. Oh man, you're the best we've
ever had. Man, I can't wait till you come to

(47:36):
my dream job. Yeah, yeah, the dream job is so
glad to hear. Then the next year, the next kid
comes in, he tells that kid the same thing, and
then he leaves. So it goes both ways. But I
know this when in any job, when you know that
the man who's teaching your coach and your boss, your
boss would end in this case, Kelvin Sampson for the players.
When you know that he's all in for you, you'll

(47:58):
you'll be all in for him. Now. Whether that means
knocking down an extra shot, I don't know, but I
can tell you this that there's not a coach in
the country that cares more about the players.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
If you're doing it right, you make it about the
people who were instrumental in making that happen. It wasn't
just you.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Kelvin also sees the big picture. He's not twenty. Yeah,
he's seen it all in coaching and probably most of
it in life. And he knows he knows, hey, he's
got a lot to offer, But he also knows that
just through his coaching and teaching. There's they're all going
to go a different avenue, and whether that's a different
team in the NBA, whether that's a different job when

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they're done playing, whatever it is. But his impact is
felt and all that aside is My point is he
can coaches, asked some basketball, and this team is really
frigging good. And the difference in this team they all
play defense, they all work hard, they're all on the
floor diving footballs over the past few years, and in
talking to two or three what I would consider basketball

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experts and guys that have coached it and or played
it or both top college level that this is the
best offensive shooting team since this runs began that he's had.
I agree with that. We know, and so they can
go into a game, play good defense, but beat you

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because they were hammering shots beyond the arc and knocking
down threes and knocking down long range shots. And we
know about their ability inside the lane and the rim
and ran a rim and the basket and getting rebounds.
But they're always going to play defense. This one's different, though,
And that's not saying Sasser and his past couldn't play.
The overall depth of the ability to knock down shots.
They're better offensively.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
And to take this a step further, Drake last year
was at the watch party with you of h when
they found out where they were going in the NCAA tournament.
And Drake has a similar reputation. So the memo is
he takes four jerseys with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
been with Alabama others. Bun Bee more than welcome, more

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than welcome.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Please. Well, bun Bee puts it on for one city
one you know the team here. He ain't wearing three jerseys.
He's not going with the one who went. And I
kid about Drake, but we've seen him root for one
and by the end of the time he's wapping up
the other team in their locker room. Yeah, pick one
and go right then sports nothing that well, I'm a
fan of three teams. Well, we all have can to
be a fan. Okay, who's your team? Who is in

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college football? When it gets the nut kind dam you're choosing?
You can have teams you love, I mean we all do.
But well, where's your soul? And so with Drake, I
don't know, I know where bun Be's soul is in
this town. It makes there is no doubt. When it's
the Texans and the Rockets and the Astros and the Kougs,
that's who he is. So you can ride with him always.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
And you know, we'll talk about this a little bit
more in the steakout because Shawn, I hate to see it.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
My parents are involved in the steakout. Uh huh oh okay.
It pains me to say they're going to walk in
the studio. I was gonna say, bring him in, man.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
I say, well, when they come in town, we'll we'll,
we'll introduce. But yes, they they are involved. It's a
labor of love, at least maybe tough love in this case.
We'll talk about it right here. Sewn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salisbury sho that's.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Goodiful all right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
The Salisbury's takeout, Salisbury's takeout on the.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports TX seven to ninety.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show. Astros beat the Twins
just day in Minnesota five to two off, Today, Rockets
thunder Tonight over at Toyota Center six o'clock, Rockets Launchpad
and tomorrow uh taken on Duke in the final four.
Continuing on this topic of conversation because it is painful
to mention this, but last week after you of h

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beat Tennessee, I immediately asked my parents, who are lifelong cookes.
They went to law school there. Funny enough, law school
classmates of our current mayor of this fair city. So
you know, yeah, I got that. Hadn't a chance to
meet him yet, because do you think that's going to
be a little awkward when I meet him and you know,
me with my gray hair and you know, say hey,
by the way, you know, I'm the son of a

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couple of your your your law school friends.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, that that adds prospective to the age thing, right,
how time flies?

Speaker 4 (52:22):
It's kind of I told you the story off air
when I did that to Scotti Brooks, when head coach.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, and I talked to him because he had.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
A basketball camp over at Bellair High School when he
was here and I said, hey, I went to your
basketball camp at Beller High School. He looked at me,
you know, didn't say anything, kind of did like that
look of you know, let me take some inventory here,
and it was, oh, yeah, you're a little older now,
that's that that sucks. Now now I feel older. But

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with mom and dad, I asked, I go, I go,
he here, y'all going. My mom goes, we kind of
feel like we're bad luck. So let me lay it out.
A couple of years ago, they're in the Elite Eate
against Villanova there in San Antonio. My mom and dad
they made the drive over from where they're in the
Hill Country and the Cook's loss. They did not end
up going to the Final four that year. Last year

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mentioned Drake, you know, being at the watch party and
then you get what was it, Jamal shed turns his ankle,
you get the foul trouble, all that kind of stuff.
They get to the Sweet sixteen, they just ran out
of Gaskins Duke. My parents were there, So that coupled
with numerous football games that they'd been to on the road,

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you know, at TCU wherever it is, and seeing the
Cook's not come through. However, this is a big However,
they were in Atlanta at the Peach Bowl when they
beat Florida State. So I don't think it's one hundred
percent a full on mush by my parents, But I mean,

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where do you stand on this? Do you feel like
they're taking one for the team right here of saying,
you know what, it would be awesome to be there
to see them win, but we don't also want to
be there to say, hey, we went superstition played itself out.
Should have listen to our gut, shouldn't have gone.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I'm an OCD guy and like like some of that stuff.
Like I was how I dressed before a game and
same time, put the left shoe on before the right shoe,
all those every day, and I was conscious of it.
I mean just step by step my day, game day,
So I get it. But at no time did I
ever I mean, you know, and when you're playing, you

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think if you don't do the superstition and you're not
gonna play as well, all those things, that's why you
do it. But as a fan, all hell, no, there
ain't no, There ain't nobody at uh talking me out
of going. If I'm go going, if i'm your your parents,
I say, well, there's got to be somebody else in
the stadium that that's the reason, or they played bad,
I'd find a reason to say no, no, I'm still going
because when it does happen, I'm not going to miss it.

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So yes, I if I'm your parents. They want to go,
I wouldn't. Well, we're bad luck now, Kelvin Sampson's team's
gonna win or lose based on that. You almost got
a convision, not if you were watching on TV and
you get that seat. Yeah, we all do it. We're
not going to move from the seat because every time
I sit here, we win. Every time I eat chicken
wings before a game, my team wins. We all get
caught up into it. But listen, you're you're you got okay,

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what if they win it all and you don't go?
You know what you say if you're yeah, yeah, I'm
going with that. Now, I got I got seats, and
I'm thinking I love to watch it home. But my
son and I my boy said, Dad, should we go?
And it's the it's all encompassing where it's Saturday, both
games and Monday night right, And I'm sitting here thinking, Sean,

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you know, I didn't go to u H, but I,
you know, my affinity for them and the city and
that and the head coach, So I think I want
to go see it, but then I want to be
I want to hear them play by play and I
want to hear raft and I want to hear, so
that part of it. And for me, it's not whether
they win or lose because of the superstition of going.
For me, it's the comfort of the home and watching
it and listen to the broadcast or being there part

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of it with you. So I'm gonna make that decision
right after the show to they kind of decide what
I'm gonna do. But I get with your parents. But
if I was telling your parents and as my parents,
I say, don't you dare let anybody talk you out
of it because you've had a bad run. This is
where the run changes. It's in Okay, have they ever
been to one where it's been in Texas? In San
Antonio for a national That's how I'd start to justify

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it to myself. Okay, in Houston, but have they have
been to the Altamodome to watch a game there and
to watch the final four? That no good point? Okay,
Well this is the for this starts now the other
run where go to final fours that aren't in your
city like in Houston, but there and somebody else, Now
you go win. So I would justify somehow some way

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talk my way to Sam. I have to be there
because this is the time they're going to win it,
and I don't want to be sitting in my living
room watching the celebration from TV if I was in Alumn.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
You almost sound like you almost sound like Billy Bob
Thornton has Gary Gaines and Friday Night Lights. Yeah, to
Mike Winchell, ain't no curses, son, and the coin flip worked.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
You want to know what the curse is. The curse
is if you're not ready to play, somebody else kicks
your ass, that's the curse.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
The curse.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
I mean, it had nothing to do with anything else,
although we build it in. It's like the no hitter
didn't end because you talked about it in the seventh inning.
Although if you're a player, you don't talk about it,
and a broadcast you don't talk about If you do,
guess what, the fans are all gonna blame you because
you mentioned it, like as if the pitcher hurt as
Brian mctagger, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, Tags wears it
all the time.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Why did you have to say anything, Tags?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
And you know what, though I laughed because I'm sure
he's like, I'm just kicking for me. It's not like
Christian on Twitter. Yeah, okay, so I'm with it. It's like,
screw you, man. If I want to tell you there's
a no hitter going to the eighth and they'll do it.
But it's the backlash you say, Okay, I'm gonna refrain
from this. So you say, well, man, the other team's
having trouble putting the bat on the ball. It's an

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epic night, don't go anywhere. It's one enough and he's
struck out fifteen and well there's been nobody that's got
the first base yet you get the hint. Yeah, okay,
all that, but it's still not saying they got a
no hitter going. So same thing. If I'm your parents
and they were questioning it, go this is where the
streak changes.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
See, And that's the thing is, if they do win
tomorrow night, my first text is going to be to
them and saying, you got to be here Monday night.
You have to. I mean, you waited your entire life
to see this. The last time. If indeed that is
the case, that they will have been in the championship
game is eighty three at the pit against n C State,
So why why why not? Why not make good on that.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
You don't have to ask me twice, man, or tell
me twice. I am with you one. No, celebrate the line.
I ain't missing it. If my Trojans are in the
National Championship, here you go. I'm telling you that, I'm going.
Even if they'd lost one or them, I'm going. I
don't know when that's gonna happen again, but uh, I
ain't missing it.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
So Mom and dad, the moral of the story is here.
If you're listening, which I think they are, is that
I'll give you a pass for tomorrow night. That's fine,
I get that. But Monday night there against Auburn or Florida.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Plus you broke it up. You didn't see all both games. Yeah,
so that was the curse here hanging around for a funk.
Go don't miss the clothes. Absolutely. So if they're in it,
they're in it. They're winning it. That's the way I feel.
I mean, they get to that point.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
I think the mindset is, you know what, we've made
it all this way, we're winning and yeah, so hopefully
I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I'm ready.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
I'm ready to see it, and we'll see it tomorrow night.
It's gonna be two really good games. Tomorrow night between
Auburn Florida.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
And you may not be the greatest for college basketball
because we don't have a Cinderella.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Story above kiss not the final four.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
But no, I get it. But that's some of the narratives. Yeah,
but the truth the matter is, let's face facts. And
that's not taking any away from Texas Tech or Ole
Miss or the way they played good basketball teams. You
got the four number one seeds, and if you've got
that in every sport, we'd all be going, we'd love it. Now,
if you're outside the number one seed, then you're like, well,
my team. If you're in Luveick, you're saying, well, we

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had a chance and that should be us. I get it,
but Florida closed it out. That's just the way it is.
So for me, if you really want great basketball and
you want a real champion, that somebody didn't upset their
way to it. Not that I don't like Cinderella, because
I do. I love that. But the truth the matter
is we when we get to the sixteen and the
eight and the four, you want your best teams. We
got the four best teams in college basketball, period.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Please do upsets are fun In the first round maybe
to get to the sweet sixteen after that, like especially
what a couple of years ago we had the final
four year yep, I mean you really want a final
four of FAU, San Diego State, Miami and Yukon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah, and I one or no. Number one seeds at
that time, right right exactly. And the and the truth
also is, man, you listen, you're in Michigan in ann Arbor,
like I said, You're in Oxford, You're in Lubbock, You're
in uh in uh Michigan State where East Lancing. You're bummed,

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and you can make a case, but the truth of
the matter is, at all stages this year, Auburn, Houston, Duke,
and Florida either all flirted with or war number one
in the country for the Auburn affair extended amount of time,
or we're flirting with it. And also have been on
streak that you said, that's the best team in the country,

(01:01:02):
all four of them. So you want great basketball, you
get no bitch about the four teams that are in
this none and two experienced coaches to inexperienced coaches. So
you get a little bit of that. As far as
been around longer and Bruce Pearl and Calvin Sampson. So
you get the best of all worlds. This is the
way you want it, even if it's not your team.
We got the best, the best college basketball has to offer.
And the truth is Cinderella is not coming back. You

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have to be awful special and have a lot of
money in the Cinderella story. Because I'm gonna tell you now,
once you get the sixteen, after that, the teams that
go into the portal and have the most money are
going to be the team standing at the end. Get
used to this. You're going to see more one and
two seeds in the final four because of the transfer
portal in nil.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I mean, that's the thing. If you had it when
Steph Curry was at Davidson and he still had eligibility left,
don't tell me that Steph Curry wouldn't have been at
like you and c or Duke the following.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Steph Curry would have Now we also he probably said no,
I would have stayed there. I get why he would
say that. But if it was fast forward now, with
his shot and the way he was the center, after
one year there, he'd have been playing and at a
power five school. Then we had power five conference and
would have been you know, and would have been a
household name. In college, he was a name because he
could shoot, but he didn't get the coverage he would

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have had he been playing at UCLA or at Kentucky.
You're exactly right. We would have never seen him finish
it out at the same school he went to.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Too much money on the line.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Man, Well, I mean, if it's there, why not take
it all?

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Coming up next? Do you want to get back into
the astros conversation? Because the key offensively, I think he
was seen yesterday. We'll talk about that right here Sean
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued, and I'm not because
of California like surfing all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I like it. And we're just talking about there's a
cruise ship out in what's like the Drake Passage where
a cruise ship it was either maybe happened yesterday, did
they ran into forty foot wave got hit by forty
foot wave on a cruise ship And I was asking
you how you you know you respect for the way
he said, yeah, but being out well, you can't see

(01:03:00):
the shoreline out in the middle of that. That's kind
of a fear. Right, Well, they got hit with it
and people are taking pictures, and I was just explaining,
like growing up in bodysurfing and surfing in California. You know,
when you're late sitting in the ocean and waiting for
a wave and a four footer comes in your bodysurfing,
that's you look up at a four foot as well,
it really is. And when you when you're in the water,

(01:03:22):
it looks far bigger than a four foot, right yeah, yeah,
And then you start. Then you go and you're like
the better six to eight feet, they're good. Then you
roll up the Santa Cruz and they're twenty five feet.
You know, we're some of the best surfers in the world.
And then the cat you know, the Hawaii we're a
big wave surfing. You stand on the beach during big
wave and it'll give you a six stomach because it's

(01:03:42):
like you feel like you're they're surfing a tidal wave, right,
these guys who chase these big waves like on the
north shore and stuff. But I'm setting here thinking in
a cruise ship, now, do you understand what a forty
foot wave would look like from the cruise ship, which
is a big ass It's a big ass vessel. I
mean it's not small, but a forty foot swell a wave.

(01:04:03):
What that looks like. It's basically your house coming at you. Yeah,
but now stand your house on standing on the long ways, right.
And when people say, well, that doesn't feel like that tall.
I remember when we were when I was going to
college at SC, they built the Olympic swim facility at
USC because that's where the swimming part was in the
eighty four Olympics. Yeah, and we'd had class with I mean,

(01:04:24):
I probably went to school with fifth over the four
or five years I was there. Probably over the course
of time from a freshman, youw senior fifteen gold medal winners,
and you know they were in class and you're thinking,
that's one of the best swimmers in the world. They
walk in with their hair wet, their long three quarter jacket.
You think, man, these guys are grinders. They're awesome, right, studs,
all of them male, female divers. And so they built
it and so we'd get to swim in it on

(01:04:45):
you know, during the spring before the Olympics and after. Right,
do you stand on a ten foot platform and you're
like ten foot platform. That's a first down. It's not
that tall. But when it stands up and you're standing
there and you're just jumping in, you're not even diving.
You're like, I got buddies that are like a little nervous.
It's ten dude, it's ten meters, which is what eleven

(01:05:06):
a quarter yards or whatever it is. And so I'm
sitting here thinking, and I'm not afraid of the water,
but I can understand being out there in the middle
way somebody. I love it, but I respect it, because man,
you get discombobulated, right, And I think of those big
wave surfers, Dude on a cruise ship, when you're there
to enjoy and a forty foot wave pitch, they'll make
you not want to go on another cruise ship.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Now I'm good. I mean, you asked me if I'd
ever go on one. I think like the Caribbean. I
would Caribbean. That would probably be the only one that
I would do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Now, you're not heading anywhere where, and you probably during
hurricane season, you probably stay off. That's not your cru
season for you. You get into the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Atlantic Pacific, I feel like you start to tempt fate
a little bit and a buddy of mine once said,
you know, asking about the different bodies of water he's
willing to go into, he said, the ocean. Well, at
least I know my opponent, right, Yeah, no doubt. So
that you see the fin out there, You're like, well,
I mean he comes at me. You know, they tell
you at least I don't know if this is an
urban legend, old wives tale to punch the shark in

(01:06:03):
the nose. Yeah, but I mean it's also too it's like,
are you really gonna have time to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Are you thinking about that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah? No, you're thinking about covering your own ass. You
ain't think about punching a shark in any nose. Okay,
you have to do one or the other. Skydive like
I've told you because I'm I'm giving you these thrill
secret things because I'm an idiot and want to do it. Yeah,
and so skydive or know, when you get on the
cruise ship in another day, you're facing a forty foot
wave and you got to think about it sky diving.

(01:06:31):
It's not even it because because they're a cruise ship now,
and that cruise ship it's hard to move them. You know,
they're they're they're built for They're built for that very reason,
to be able to handle bad seas, right See.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
And what cracks me up about is some people might say, well,
there's lifeboats if it goes down. This massive vessel just
went down, so what the hell's gonna happen to the lifeboat?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Yeah, so yeah, that's what you said. If the vessel
goes out and you rely on the lifeboat anything, so
you're going you're fifty thousand, you're jumping out of the
plane before because it is the anticipation of the build
up of like I got to wait a day in
a forty foot waves coming and we're gonna be fine.
But man, just the thought process of seeing the swell
you're usual. It's not even it's a no brainer.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
It's a no brainer because I mean I feel like
that there are many different conclusions that can be reached
with that. Hell, you could get through it. You're fine,
smooth sailing after that. But then I feel like with skydiving,
it's you hope the shoot opens.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Obviously, it's really it's really simple to skydive. Yeah, you jump,
you jump, You're either going to land or with or
you're just gonna go right. Yeah, by that time if
you know it's not open, and you may have already
passed out by the time you hit anyway, so you
may not even feel it true, and it's it's but
it goes through everybody's mind. It's a perfectly safe plane.

(01:07:45):
But I get it. I would for me, it would
be easy too. Even though I love the water, I'm
because I skydive anyway. I don't want to be in
a ship in a forty foot way. I did just
the feeling of and I don't get seasick. But with
that I might get a little the anticipation of, oh hell, no,
forty feet. Having known what a four foot swell, forty

(01:08:08):
feet is huge, even in a cruise ship, that thing
looks massive. Well, I got to do this. Stand at
the bottom of a cruise ship before you get on it,
and look up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
To the top of it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Yeah it's big. You can even go to Galveston and
see it is big.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Right, yeah, okay, Now stand on the ship and see
a forty foot way from a disc. Come and tell
me that's okay. Now I'm skydiving all day, every day
and twice on Sunday with that, and I love the ocean.
I ain't trying to be at fathom for somebody who's
afraid of it. Why they'd even attempt to even go
out on a cruise ship if you're afraid of the other.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
I ain't trying. I am not trying to be on
the Poseidon, I am not trying to be well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Gene Hackman and Shelley Winners ain't coming to rescue you
this time. But right there you go, it's not going
to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Yeah, I mean I thought at that point, I, you know,
just to uh to bring another one in. I would
be fine with Quin showing up because at least Quin
has experience with the fend ones out there. Yeah, we
know that Richard Dreyfus too. I call him Dick Dreyfus. Yeah,
guess friends call him Dick A bit close to him, right.
I think you have to reach a certain friends status

(01:09:13):
to reach that point. Like I think, like if it's
not earned and you call him that Richard please.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Yeah okay, So like like you know, you'll hear de
Niro and Leo called Martin. Scorse, they don't ever call
him Martin. It's always Marty, Yeah, Marty, because they're type.
But you couldn't call him Marty or I couldn't because
we don't know if you'd have to call him either
mister or Martin. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
That was something that somebody asked, uh, what was it?
Val Kilmer the other day about doing the movie Heat,
and he said, one of the greatest things is now
I get to call Alan Bob Allen Bob.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Yeah, right, instead of mister Al's Al. But for for
Robert de Niro, it's like, you know Bob or Bobby, right,
Like when you know Robert Duval, everybody's call him Bob Bobby.
So I'm assuming because it's Martin, it's Marty that you
would have to call, Uh, Richard d d is Dick. Yeah,

(01:10:01):
if you're tight with Oh, I've been in five movies
with Dick. He's one of my favorite friends. Yeah, there
you go. Now you've got to be careful how you
say it. Oh, I've been in five movies with Dick
Ron Howard, and you can't hesitate too long in between.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah, he and I, Dick and I have been in
five movies Dick Dreyfuss, Yeah, five movies together.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
I would say the person presumptuous thing, like you know,
I mentioned Ron Howard. Do you call them Opie. He'd
be like, please, what's up. I'm in I'm in my sixties.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
The Trojan Dog, Hank Winkler do you call him? Do you
think they call him Henry or Hank his buddies, He's
probably he can probably get away with Hank.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Yeah, like Sandman, I think you can get away with calling
him Hank. Although you know one of the Adam Sandler
movies that he was in with them, it was one
that got me teared up was the Remote Control movie.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Yeah from the Store when he had the remote It
wasn't our guy walking in that one as well. He
was Chris walking and I've got this remote control. Oh yeah, yeah,
good movie. Man, change you'll get gett'll get in your fields,
but you gotta love. I would imagine saying man probably
calls probably calls uh his uh Henry Winkler, Hank, What's

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what's up? Hank?

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
What about walking like you said sea walk?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Uh dub dub there you go, or just point to
dubs in the I always like when does that threshold
happen with actors where you can you know when did
Tom Cruise start calling Robert Duvall Bobby or Bob or Doov. Yeah, yeah,
what's up, Bob? What's up? What's up? D? D Money?

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I mean it's Roberts Yeah, damn you do you think
he's ever been called do you? Can you picture Robert
Duvall being called D Money? No, that Doov?

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Any of those like Tom Cruise. I don't even think
he could get away with it when he was wearing
every single sec hat and days.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Of oh yeah no, it's just I want you to
hit the pace car. That's just Bobby Bob. He played.
He played a good pick pick crew chief. I love
he really did, dude. I think Robert duval is one
of the more underrated actors. I love him, man, I think,
but he did. He was a good preat because he
had the right attitude kind of the you know, to
keep to get on his ass when he needed to,
but keep him calm, toent and he.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Looked at what the headset on. I mean you believed it,
you know that, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Look, but I did actually go out to the to
the dayto to five hundred and Duvall would be in
somebody's pick crew. Yeah, I'm with you, one hundred per.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
That's why you see certain brands in that movie like
you know, if I ever see a heart ease, I'm like, oh, well,
what's it? Rowdy Yates or whatever the guy's name was,
you know, yep, carry L's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Tremendous product placement in days of time, dude, Nascar in general, Yeah,
always want anyone in that when they went overboard? Did
you want?

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
You want brand visibility? Just hope the car doesn't flip
on the track. That's that's pretty much it, no question
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
So we've got Robert duvall, everybody. We covered it all.
We we banged them all. We got them all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Well, so you might want to you know, if you
want to pause for a second. You said we banged
them all. Well, you don't want to be you're going
the wrong way. You don't want Yeah, look for it's
not even eight my look where my head is?

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
We hit them all?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah? Yeah, there we go. There we go, begue the
drum slowly. Now I saw the movie I did.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Yeah, there you Robert de Niro, There you go, the
other Bobby, A baseball movie that I don't think people
know is out there. But now you know, all right,
we'll get back into the Astros conversation because they awoken yesterday.
Is that even a word? What the hell? We'll go
with it right here, Seawn Salisbury Show We.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Want Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
What was her name? What was Every kiss begins with K?
There you go, shout out K. Yeah, does every kiss
begin with K? That's what they say. Good marketing camp,
good Jennis, good marketing campaign.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
That's the thing. A good jingle. And I always love
that too. If people all that songs so annoying, I'm like,
but you remember it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah, Well it's annoying when you remember because you hear
it all the time in your head and you sing
it to yourself. So right, that was nice.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Okay, that's a good that's a good call by her.
Thank you, Thank you, Kay, appreciate you looking out for us.
Astros beat the Twins yesterday, Minnesota. They're off today. Rocket's
going to get the thunder tonight over at Toyota Center.
Speaking of the Astros, I know that Joe wants to
weigh in quickly on the Astros. What's up, buddy, Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:14:19):
Doing all right? I was gonna say the Astros they're
not doing too good right now, and then looking down
on them kind of not in a good vibe as
far as how they're going to do this year.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
And my question is.

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
Is like when they played the Washington Nationals the second game,
I left at my friend's house because they.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Are we talking about back in the World Series? Yes, okay,
when they.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
When they played in the World Series, I let my
friend's house and the first out of the game and
they were.

Speaker 8 (01:15:07):
Like, are you.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
The game's over? I don't think they're going to win it.
And they had food, beer, everything you can imagine company,
great people there hanging out. But I was just like,
you know what, you're not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Okay, let me ask you a question. Can I ask
you a question? So what was your question to us
before I ask you a question? And I love I
love the fact that you're we're going back to Washington
and the fact you didn't get any beer food because
you left after one out? Was it one out or
one out? Okay? One out? You can't stop? Well, you
got to hang up on it. You gotta uh. I

(01:15:50):
hate to say that. So he's ad it twice. Well,
we we've got him out. You double clicked it. Yeah, okay, Joe, Joe,
let me let me respond. I don't know what your
question was you basically your making a statement. So I
love your casual approach, but I don't know a soul
in the world who knew after one batter in that
World Series that the series was over. Now, it ended

(01:16:12):
up in Washington's favor because nobody could win at home.
But I mean, I'm not even questioning the asker now,
I'm questioning why the hell you'd leave your friend after
one because you knew it was over. I wish we
had your insight, because if you can predict that stuff
all the time, let me know how this Final four
is going so I can get paid. That's number one,

(01:16:35):
and number two is, well, they did win yesterday and
we're only eight games. Well, what do we nit nine
games in?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Seven?

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Today will be the eighth game, right, Yes, they're three
and four, three and four, so there's seven games in
and I'm not ready to bury them yet either. Seven
games you let alone one pitch in a World Series, Joe,
You're gonna miss out on a lot of good stuff.
If that's it, I kind of like to change your
approach for you. So, uh, the are you going with

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a little bit better glass half full? I mean, it
turned out that they didn't win the World Series. But
I'm not sure what that team has to do with
this team, And I'm really not sure why I would
uh leave after one pitch. If nothing else, I'm gonna
get drunk with my friends and eat food and just
fall asleep on her couch. Right, that was my I

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don't get drunk.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Yeah that was that was That was my fault?

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Was that not? What was? Someone? I say? Bring it?

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yeah, way to go. Look what you've done? You sorry?
You want to apologize to the peeps?

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
Hey, I I do apologize to all of you. And
it's you know, you're talking about all the beer and everything.
It sounds like Joe really took you up on that
last night.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah, so if I let me ask you this, So
this game, I love job a bit. I'm not quitting
on a team after one bat sorry, or seven games,
especially coming off a win. But hey, who's counting? So
let me get this straight win. Cryer knocks down the
first three on on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Night, Joe's leaving the house. The game's over, Joe's out
of there, He's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yeah. See, well I want to say food. Guess who
I've been invited to my house? Joe, he did. You
don't have to worry, one of the greatest. I left
after the first batter, knowing the game was over and
your buddies and beer and food were there. Man, man,
you didn't get it. You didn't get the most out
of his drive over there. And then he was about

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I think he was about to tell us. If he
doesn't drop an S bomb, you know, then he's already
quitted the Astros. Seven games were we headed? There is
that it? Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Joe was taking a long approach to the runway. Let's
just say that it was. It was a long and
eventful descent to land the plane. And there was there
was the mouth in my brain, not the mouth that
I use that seriously wanted to yell out, Joe, land
the plane, man, or maybe stay for a second hitter. No,

(01:19:01):
land the plane and let us get off. That's that's
what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Oh, Joe, I need you. I I would hate to
approach my sports teams like that. That'd be tough, man,
But God bless him. Yeah, no, I take where I
know where he was going. He was done with the
Astros already, correct. Is that the idea?

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
That's it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
If you can quit on a world series after the
opening pitch, opening hitter of the series. You can you can?
You can quit after seven games? All right, I've got
us back. I've got us back on the rails. Well,
you took us off the rails. Go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
I was gonna say, if I had Joe's foresight, then
I wouldn't have done it. So that's on me. Be rich,
that's it, that's it. Yeah, i'd be I'd be speaking
into a microphone and uh, you know, going downstairs to
a different car. But anyway, we'll get back into the astros.
Also to the Texans making a little bit of news,
so we'll squeeze them in here as the eight o'clock
cour is upon us. Shawn Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Salsbury. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Sean Salisbury, USC Troupes, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sewan Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Nice to see the batsket going, Rockets, gonna get the
thunder in town tonight. Six o'clock Rockets, launch Pad, the
Coobs and the Duke Blue Devils Tomorrow Final four, San Antonio.
You can hear it over on kPr C nine fifty.
We talked about this a little bit earlier on Sewan
and know that some people want to get in on
the Astros, but I mean, yesterday, the best part of

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it all was the second inning. After the first you
give up those two runs and you're just like ah Man,
first three guys against Joe Ryan just went one, two, three,
and the words of Robert Ford good, good morning, good afternoon,
and good night, every single one of them, and then
they put up two runs. You're just like, this is
just going to continue, isn't it Like this is gonna
be just like last year? And the Astros said, Ni, Ni,

(01:21:23):
It's not the way it's gonna go. Christian Walker said, yeah,
see it now it's two to one, and then Jeremy
Pania doing a Jose Altuve two strike swing and absolutely
Tomahawking won over the left field wall, and then a
little Brendan Rodgers' action in there of saying, hey, you
know what I want in on this? This looks fun,
wasn't it nice?

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
I mean, we saw you know what's paining hitting about
a buck and a quarter something like that's not great,
but to he's gonna go on a roll too. And
I the one thing that I think since he's been
in the league that i'd even like somebody is a
constant power outage. Go up right, I mean the power outage.
Be it like a power cogged where that thing starts
to up. He's powerful enough to go twenty five on you,

(01:22:01):
I think when he's just being selected. But you know,
the guy's got the bill. Like you said to Tom Hawk,
a ball out of the ballpark and do it. So
you saw him get into it. Walker and Rogers guys
that needed to Now you just need to get him.
Put it this way. You want him to hit like
he's a two hole guy. Painty. That's not where he's
going to hit, but that's where you'd like. You want

(01:22:22):
him to hit like he's a two hole guy, meaning
that kind of bat control and all that. And he's
got such ability that at some point he'll get on
a run. The key is and it didn't happen enough
last year. How many times did we have three or
four guys on a month roll? Not very often. It
was well, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about
where it was where at the same time is what

(01:22:43):
I'm talking about. You know, if you're loaded and then
all of a sudden you're seven, eight and nine for
two weeks or kicking ass, that's awesome as well. So
when that top of your lineup, or the first five
or six guys, when they go on that roll for
a minute as opposed to a New York second and
that's what we got last year. Didn't get a lot
of it. And if you can get on a roll
where three or four guys, then you allow guys to

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strike out five times in a game where he didn't
have to do what he's done most this season. He's
had a good start to his season now Toovey, So
I it's always I'm always looking for the good part
of it and getting pain you going would be nice.
But watching Walker and Rogers add to it last night
was good because when you're a new guy, you're you're pressing.
And when I say new guy in a new organization,
just to impress your teammates, just are and the fans

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and went on the road and took care of it
in cold weather and that was important. And then Hunter
Browns a frigging dog man is a dog.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
In fact, he's pretty much proven pretty quickly that I'll
throw ninety nine and then, oh, if you didn't think
that was good enough, here here comes that nice little
splinter machine coming at you with a sinker two seam
whatever it is that he throws on the inner half.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Yep, and not being afraid to go there, which has
been the biggest turnaround in his career. You know, the
mechanics he's copied from Verlander, you know, from day one,
but the ability to to make sure you're pitching the
inside part of the plate, not being afraid to go
in there. Plus he's got the stuff to quite frankly,
you can live there a lot if you're that good.
And then then the outer half becomes your best friend

(01:24:10):
after you bum busted in there with his velocity. So
it's a good thing. He can be intimidating, and it
was a good He's going to be a really, I think,
a special guy. And you're looking at your number one
for a while when he in the next couple of years.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
And plus Josh Hader goes three up, three down in
the ninth, it was it was a fun day, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
No stress in the ninth then it was good to watch,
and he was. He was sharp.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
It was get the foul, pop a couple of them,
and then you get a strike out there in between.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
That was a wicked strike out pitch. It was nice
little slider, that sure was and drop below the bat
had no shot at it. Man, it was really good.
He that looked why you paid him ninety grand.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Oh, it's like Will ninety mil It's like Will Smith
says to Martin Lawrence and bad boys with the driving.
From now on, that's how you drive. Yeah, that's what
that's what you yell at, you know, with with Josh Hader.
From now on, that's how you pitch.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
That's exactly what That dude was unhit on the strike.
It was unhittable, right, I mean, you put it in
a perfect spot. And those non stress closeouts are pretty cool. No,
definitely are.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
So now I see the astros when yesterday they're gonna
get back at it again tomorrow afternoon someone three two
one two five seven ninety against someone three two one
two five seven ninety. Al on the south side, Al, please,
for the love of God, be better than Joe.

Speaker 9 (01:25:22):
Hey, Sean, that's a good land from what we ushould
do it with bride in the fielding.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Hey, Joe Gold go Joe. Yeah, so that guy was wird.
What did you talk about A goall on your team? Wird?

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Man, I'm telling you I don't want to be the
guy that after one batter, I'm done with the whole series. Okay,
I'll just quit sports if that's the case.

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
We got you, Joe, Man. We understand, Joe. It's all
good man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
No, we actually don't. But that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
We all we all have a misstep, but it's just it's
it's upon us to then make fun of you for it.
That's what we're here for.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
Yeah, yeah, we we we we understand.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
It's a good one. Pitch John.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Really they're gonna lose the series? Well we only got nine? Hey,
I got you dog?

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
Yeah out of here, say lem me kudos to my astros.

Speaker 9 (01:26:15):
First of all, sure, Joan, let me ask you this
here and I'm a listen to you take on. I'm
not concerned with the understanding new guy in right field
walker and all that and whatever, but I'm concerned I
wanted to be a team collective uh push here, Uh
not just pinions and all that. I mean, one through six.

(01:26:37):
I need these guys to get on top of the baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:26:40):
It's like what the league has went to now, it's
so profile on.

Speaker 9 (01:26:45):
The best person in the best the high stakes are
the best guall on team. Baseball is a collective, collective
team sport. It's kind of like football one, but they
stay on the field both sides of the pub baseball.

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
I need all those guys. I'm talking about one.

Speaker 9 (01:27:00):
Two, three, four, five, six, and if it takes us
seven and eight, I just want us to have that
complete like we had. What was that when we went
to the World Series one or two? What was that
against we went last World Series? Uh, we had Tuck.
I hate Tucker's gone. I'm down at hills, you know,
and I just hate he was gone. With these young
guys contributing oats two, vedes our wire, I just wanted collectively.

(01:27:23):
And I don't know, Shun, you can probably uh figure
this out. Which is spring training and all that what
I hear us from the last season coming into this season,
I don't know what spring training we got with the
who of these guys batting practicing again, but they seemed
to start sluggish and slow opposed to the other teams,

(01:27:44):
and I know the Dargers was undefeated at one where
I don't know if they lost the game yet the
Yankees is hitting the ball. I don't know whose we
batting practice against. Does that has a lot to do
with it?

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 9 (01:27:56):
Uh, these guys having a slow start when they get
to tease pictures on the hook, it's like, you know,
we kind of go blank.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
I don't understand it, but I dot Chris at lists.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Each Yeah, I appreciate it al for the most party succeeded.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
But yeah, I I for me, it's it's not even
the batting practice pitching, it's live pitching and seeing more
of it. That's just me. I went on a you
know a little bit of a rat. Yes, say, I
just don't get it, not just here anywhere. I just
don't get to me. Baseball would be the easiest to
get the most work in. I understand the legs and basketball.
I'm not saying it's easy, but in truth, it's not

(01:28:30):
that you're there with your buddies. You're you're not running
the outfield dirt to get shased, You're not killing yourself.
I mean, I'm talking about where somebody else is beating
on you. That's why. Of course it's a grind, and
all the respect for the the where you're swinging the
bat and your hand's getting blistered and all those things
that go on with it. But baseball the one. The
ball ain't heavy. The bat's thirty two ounces. If you're

(01:28:52):
if you're, if you're a big swing in stead, you're
carrying thirty three thirty four ounces. Right, You're not Dick
Allen carrying forty ounce bat. Okay, that's exact, that's exactly right.
So it's not heavy. I've just never understood why you
need a lot of days off in spring training. I
think you need more at bats, seeing live real pitching,
not batting practice pitching, which is all fine. It's like

(01:29:14):
if I had my quarterback, alls, you're gonna do just
play seven on seven when eleven on eleven hit you're
it's different, buddy, people punching you right in your face.
I just don't get on any team why you wouldn't
want to go say I need three at bats a
day the entire spring training. It ain't that tough. Or
even routes on air, yeah, routes on air, yeah, routes
on route routes on air. It's really easy to complete

(01:29:37):
balls against routes on air. That ain't tough because there
ain't nobody there. So for me, I'm going, I'm hitting
batting practice. You're gonna meet batting practice. I'm going and
hitting batting practice. Now, those guys, and I understand you
got a time it in all these years doing it.
But for me, if I was I would want more
real I would want to play more. That doesn't mean
play nine innings every day, but get up there and
get your at bats in minimum of three a day.

(01:29:59):
I don't know why, Well, what do you give me
two days off from get why? I just don't. It's
spring training, it's it's not four hundred pounds of gear
on you. You're not playing rugby and baseball is hard.
But when it comes to swinging the bat, I would
think you'd want to see as much real live pitching
as you could every day, all the time to get
your timing down. Like in all sports now, we don't

(01:30:22):
do enough in the camp to get ourselves ready for
the regular season. We pay more and do less, and
it's just a fact. So and some start fast with
not a lot of work. I guess but I would
think that if I'm going to have a default, the
default is their on the side of My default is
more at bats in spring training. More doesn't mean as
a pitcher throwing more pitches build them up year round.

(01:30:45):
I get it more at bats in spring training. It
can't help, but I mean it can't hurt, but it
does help. I am one believe it. Twenty at bats
or thirty bats, to me, is not enough. Two rules,
one for football, one for baseball. Football, you're working eleven
on eleven at all times. Baseball more live, That's right.
And I'm going to tell you this. If you're Peyton
Manning the way he teaches it to when you're playing

(01:31:06):
routes on air, you don't play routes on air. He
wants to know exactly why you threw it there. And
if he asks you, and I know this for a fact,
he asked you, why'd you throw it there? To another
quarterback on his team? Well, what do you mean, what
was the coverage? Well, we're playing routes on air. No, no, no,
what was the coverage? He wants you to think, like, okay,
why'd you throw the curl route? Well, this flat defender

(01:31:28):
got underneath the flat route and there was a window
there because they were playing cover three. Oh okay, I
get it. He doesn't want to hear. Hey, oh well,
we're routes on air. I'm just throwing routes. You're not
solving anything, and so those are wasted reps. They just are.
They're empty reps. Tell me why you threw it there.
Oh it's cover too. I threw the dig route because boom,
off the hash we ran a bender and boom, the

(01:31:48):
dig route came in behind it. Okay, now you're thinking
like you're supposed to, and that's what you said. I
with my quarterbacks were always playing eleven on eleven always,
which means we're not holding the ball, we're getting it out.
Same in baseball. I just told you, I think facing
ninety five will give you a better chance to prepare
than facing seventy five.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
That's just my in my opinion. More often, Yeah, the
iron mic can only do so much. That's that's another
lesson we have here.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
The ball doesn't sit on a te Nope, in on Friday, Saturday,
Sunday in a three game series. To my knowledge, So
no matter what city you play in, I would if
I was a veteraniz' say, I need more work, not less,
So I'm hitting the ground running once we start in
late March.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Hopefully the ground isn't moving too fast underneath the Astros.
Now with the win yesterday, Brandon Biscuits, see you guys there,
We'll get you all involved in the conversation. Also to
the Astros bullpen at least a roadmap. Now we'll discuss
right here. Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Let the celebration start more. Sean Salisbury's a Sewan Salisbury
Show NB.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
One three two one two, five seven ninety the number
Biscuit Brandon, see you guys right there. Get to you
all on a second. But Sean Chador Rome with a
pretty cool story the day about Brian King. I can't
remember if it was us or it was you and
the Lima that sat down with him, but yeah, y'all
did I like him?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Man? Good dude, really good player.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Yeah, and those Darrell's Poe boys right there, and where
he went to college and in Lake Charles and was
on a Alaskan fishing vessel and thought that that was
going to be Hey, you know this is what post
college looks like. All right, Hey, I'll go into the
fishing world. And then he gets a call from the
Cubs of hey, we're drafting you, and his response was,

(01:33:32):
you guys are going to back out of this, right,
Like if I leave here and come come there, it's
not gonna be ah hey, sorry man.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Yeah we didn't draft you. Yeah. Oh good for him. Again,
it's a great story. And when you see those, it
seems like every year there's somebody like, man, what a
what a hell in the world did this happen? And
he is a great story and quite frankly, is a
very not only efficient, but very good and needed on
this team.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
There's no doubt and being counted on on early because
you just saw that yesterday where it was the seventh inning,
and as I'm watching that game, I'm wondering, even before
they show who's throwing in the bullpen all that kind
of stuff, I'm like, all right, well, who's Joe going
to go to you? Because Hunter's at ninety one pitches,
so you got to believe that's it for him. And
I was thinking, all right, is it Taylor Scott here?
But then he said no, I'm already gonna trust this

(01:34:19):
guy as being a high leverage guy, and people wondering
what's going to happen without Ryan Presley. I think Joe's
telling you that guy, Steven Okert, I'm feeling pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
And think about this, haven't they They've used set remember
we said the seventh and Steve Sparks kind of midt
it finding out who the guy is to get to
a bray you and and hater and so if you
got to use three of them, depending on the situation,
you do it. But he is a He's a very

(01:34:49):
good and going to be counted on throughout the entire
season for this for this team to do exactly what
the expectations are. And I liked him when we met him,
and obviously he was he's been very good, and uh
he's raised the bar for how we feel about that
and will be a big part in how that middle
relief gets to the back end and gets to him.
I think, I think you're going to enjoy by the

(01:35:11):
time this season is over what he's brought to the table.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
And I mean, he's a guy that you know, as
we touched on, I mean a great story of somebody
who probably even at a certain point in his career,
was like, is this even.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Gonna work out? Anymore like this for me?

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
Yeah, I mean, is it you know, because kind of
cast aside by the Cubs and bouncing around a little bit.
And then the Astros said, hey, we see something here.
Let's bring him in, get him with Josh Miller, which,
by the way, too, it's funny how at least from
about the middle part of last year to now. And
I do a lot of postgame shows, I'm not getting
the fire Josh Miller calls anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
No you're not. But they were there like crazy, Oh,
we need Brent stromback, right, and and I get it.
But let a guy work in and put his stamp
on a team, right, you got to and and it's happened.
And with the strength of the team the last year
and a half and heading into this year, in my opinion,
has been the pitch staff.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
I got to make Brent strompfield old once because I
told him, I said, hey, it's awesome to see you, you know,
as the pitching coach.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
I remember when you coached me at the Astros baseball
camp when I was ten years old, and he's like,
how old are you now? And I told him, he goes,
damn it, man.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
I remember watching him in San Diego when he pitched
growing up, but when he was a pitcher, and then
a buddy of mine who I played against in high
school went on to be the pitching coach Darren Balsley
for the Padres for a long time, and so in
Strom as he started his career. But I'm thinking, and
we look strong as an epic one of the best
teachers of pitching we've ever had, you know, like a

(01:36:37):
Mount Rushmore type pitching instructuring pitching coach. And they I
remember when he was pitching, and yeah, time fly. So
I imagine you did agent with that one man. I just
gonna say, did it's him? Did it Scottie Brooks? It
happened once in a while. Hey look, but you get
up close to forty and it starts to happen. Then
you want to be the guy that replaces the guy,
not the guy that has to replace. You want to

(01:36:58):
be the guy who replaced the guy. You know what
I'm saying. So that replaces the guy, right, So you
want to be the guy after the guy replaces him.
Think about what Shier had to go through. Who'd he
replace the guy? Right? And he's done a nice job
and he feels like he's carving his own niche out.

(01:37:19):
So it's the same thing here. You're not going to
be Brent strong. Now you take with the wisdom that
he gave you and then you got to add your
stuff to it. And when you do that, and I
never heard him make an excuse through all this either
the pitchure. They just to go about to do their job.
That it's amazing too. When things are struggling, what do
we first go to. It's the coach's fault. But when
things are going good, it's the player's performance instead of

(01:37:40):
do you think that maybe his impact helped them what
they're doing and calm him in And I think he
deserves a lot of credit in their way, gives us
the same production and what we expect from them as
a starting pitcher, you know, just in shorter innings, use
and expect Brian and you expect Hater to close it
out and get thirty five saves or whatever it is

(01:38:01):
in the year forty whatever it might be, and and
a bray you to be a bray you that would
turn him into an all star type pitcher. That pitching
staff and the coaching staff is going to have to
take a lot of credit for making sure that. I mean,
they won't let us know, but the performance will tell
you that he's teaching right and they got buy in
from that, So a lot of credit to them. Those
are tough shoes to fill and they've done a hell

(01:38:22):
of a job. And the pitching staff's a strength and
has been.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
Absolutely all right, Let's get into some of the kougs
because redemption absolutely on the line this weekend in San Antonio.
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Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
And the Sewn Salisbury Show continued. It's one of those
that I'm sure he's gonna be asked the questions. I
know that they did a lot of press yesterday there
in San Antonio. I'm assuming probably least he'll talk to
the media sometime today before they hit the floor tomorrow.
And you've talked about it numerous times that he never
makes it about himself. It's it's not a you know,

(01:40:35):
this is what I need to do winning a national
title or anything of the sort. But we can make
it about him here and that is the elusive national title.
But it's also think about the guy he was when
he took over the job in twenty fourteen, where he
had gone to the NBA because he had the unceremonious

(01:40:57):
exit there at Indiana for texting people. I mean, I
don't really understand why that's such a.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Huge Yeah, well now we got we're paying to hand
cash paying people, and it was a problem that he
was texting, right, Really, that's why I cracked you up,
bigger fish to fry.

Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
But that's why he cracked me up. Like people. You know, oh,
we can't hire Will Wade why. I mean, everything he
was on you know tape saying is now legal. He
can actually give out sweet ass offers, strong ass offers.
That's what it was, strong ass offers.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Well what the strong ass offer could mean a lot
of things, and nowadays the strong ass offer is encouraged.
Eric Dickerson's trans am would have been times five. Yeah,
back in the eighties, but you know it's I mean,
matter of fact, you would have looked at it and said, ed,
what's why do you only get the transam? Where's it?

Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
Ferrr?

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
He doesn't go by that does He's a lot of
people call him that dish because that's how he's always been,
or dick that's what everybody's called him. I mean, the
teammates are close, it's one of those two. Rarely. I
I can't remember the last time I called him Eric, Well, I.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Was guess saying, I mean, I guess you know, it's
not necessarily a uh, you know, making fun of you
calling you that, especially yeah you're Eric Dickerson, because then
he can just respond back with I'm a Hall of Famer,
the hell are you?

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Yeah? I don't think that the ed you're thinking about
is anything anybody's thinking when they're talking to Eric Dickerson.
But point is, if you were point is is it
that money would have been really nice in his day?
If it was pushed forward now it'd be it'd be
pretty good. But yeah, the same thing itself. Yeah, there's
no question about it. So the uh, yeah, it sure does.
Is with Kelvin Sampson in Indiana or with Will Wade.

(01:42:29):
The things that well they frowned upon and the self
righteous looked at now is like, oh that's it. Oh,
well do you keep You can do more of that
and add and add five million dollars to it, and
that's the way you'll get a player. So yeah, it's ridiculous,
but you're right the unceremonious part of it. And look
what he had to do to turn everything around without
feeling sorry for himself ma'am.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
Not only that. I mean, you know, he talked about
a little bit yet last week where you had you
of h put out the video of him going around
campus in twenty sixteen with the bullhorn. Hey, get out
to all Fines Pavilion, come see these guys play. And
then I mean he talked about it a little bit
the other day too. I mean he's had some you know,
sort of some nostalgic moments here of going to Tilman
for Tita. Hey, Tilman, look, man, if we're going to

(01:43:09):
make this thing happen, we've got to up our facilities, said,
gave him twenty million dollars and said you got to
raise the rest and the rest is history.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
And you never have to. And Tilman Fortita made it
very clear with their program they did, this was not
going to be a bridge job. And you know, after
when Tom Herman left and the rest of it, and
I got news for it, it's no longer a bridge job.
It's destination, especially there. And Kelvin Sampson's got his gig,
and I think he's proven that he's here, that the

(01:43:37):
bigger job isn't something he's really interested in. This is
a big job and he's turned it into one. And
Kelvin can be very convincing because he believes it's in
his soul, you know, not only as a teacher on
the basketball court, but going out and raising money, getting fans.
He's not telling somebody to do something he's not willing
to do himself. At least for all the time I've
known him, that's who he's been, and I think it's

(01:43:57):
a reflection is I think his team carries the same
thing they're running. I don't think they care which guy
gets the credit. And I know that sounds so cheesy,
and you know the old saying that you'll win when
it doesn't matter who gets the credit. I don't think
that's I don't mean it the cheese factor. I'm just saying,
when you're playing great basketball, you don't care if Cryer
gets thirty or doesn't, as long as whatever he did

(01:44:19):
contribute to win. The players themselves, I don't think they
walk away from there. And every player I've ever known
that's any good has an ego, but I don't think
they walk away from there saying I only got sixteen, man,
he got thirty. I got to get my I don't
think that's the case. I actually think this team's in
it for one reason. They all want to play on
you know, in the NBA, and they all want to
get paid and all that. But I think that that

(01:44:40):
there's a we can call it a mission, we can
call it, you know, bone to pick, we can call
it chip on their shoulder. I just think this team
realizes that if they when they win the whole thing,
there won't be one person getting the credit. And I
can tell you who won't take the credit for it,
even though he'll deserve a lot of it. Is a
very man. You're talking about Kelvin Samson. It'll be about
his kids.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
He's one of those sit up straight guys. And what
I mean by that is, you know he's talking with
a recruit. Oh I want this, I want all that,
you know everything. Well, if you're not here to compete,
I don't need you. And then it's a well what
It's not just.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
What you want, it's what coach Sampson wants and expects
from you too. It's the expert. We think that the recruit.
We got to offer him all the expectations that he
has for us. You know, Oh, I want this, I
want that, I want this but it goes both ways. Well,
here's my expectations you and here's how we do it
at University of Houston. I'm not sure how they do
it somewhere else, but here's how we do it here.

(01:45:31):
And once they give you that come to Jesus talk,
which I don't think Kelvin Samson leaves many times from
a home visit without a come to Jesus. We parents
sitting there too, Because I'm going to tell you right
now the biggest killer of recruiting for a school is
the parents at a young age. You're getting to the
point now that certain coaches will not recruit certain kids

(01:45:54):
because the mom and dad they're getting as recruited as
hard as the kid is now, because they are as
impactful on the transfer portal, on keeping them there on
the babysitting. The coach doesn't want to have to do
that the parents and they've you know, all those things
that come in. So when you go in the living
room now, you're not just when I was getting recruited.
Of course they're recruiting you. You want the mom to

(01:46:15):
love the coach and all that, but more so than now,
and not only is recruiting going on during the recruiting season.
You have to recruit your own players while they're there,
after they've signed, and after they're there, you've got to
recruit them to keep them. So they got to do
double time. And Kelvin Samson, I'm sure there's been plenty
of come to Jesus speeches, and it's not just aimed
at the kid. It's aimed at the mom and dad
and making sure they understand the expectations of what the

(01:46:39):
school has for their kid, what they're willing to give,
but also what they expect from the kid coming into
the program and how they're going to do things. Because
if you come in and not understanding, but you do,
you're not coming to University of Houston thinking, I wonder
what practice is like. Pah okay, I wonder what a coach?
If I score twenty, do I have to play defense?
Come on in, check it out. In fact, come watch

(01:47:00):
practice one debut. Come watch practice one day before you commit.
Come see how we do it. Now that would be
an alarming one. You willed to do this. Guys are
diving on the floor and it's March madness right around
the corner. Yeah, you've got to be something different. If
you want to deal with this because the grind ain't easy.
But Kelvin purposely isn't making it easy, because it gets
a lot easier in the final four, when you've simulated

(01:47:22):
this a million times during the regular season and the tournament,
they will not be overwhelmed. I don't know if they're
gonna win it all. My money's on them and has
been for a while, but I don't know if they're
going to But I assure you that whoever Duke and
whoever they play in the final meaning the Cougars, if
they're fortunate enough to do their thing, they'll know that

(01:47:44):
they've been in a major, full blown fifteen round fist fight. See,
we used to have fifteen round fights. Now they're twelve rounds.
Eventually they'll be eight, but twelve rounds, So he'll take
them back to the old fifteen round fight. You'll know
you've been in it, and if you're a player on
this team, you'll know exactly what's expected to you seven
something tomorrow night, Biscuits.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
See you right there. Get you involved in the conversation.
Brandon as well also to want to continue a little
bit on the coug See and somebody who has it
all almost fumbled it away. We'll discuss right here Sean
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, and it no.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
Now you know, biscuits, we always know we can count
on him as we get him in here on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
What's up, buddy, Fellas Fellas Fellas?

Speaker 10 (01:48:31):
Hey, let me before I get the dam before I
get to my take on the Cougars. Man signed, I
know you watched the game last night. Man, what's the
h L going on with Luca?

Speaker 8 (01:48:44):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Do you want us to bottle that up and sell
it so we can make a lot of money? My man,
We'll see this. This happens, and we've seen it and
it ain't the first time, so I'm with you one.
But I if you're asking what the hell is going on?
I think that that's probably a better question. Then you
probably have the question better suited than my answer, because

(01:49:05):
you don't have the answer either. And uh, and I
mean that affectionate, because we never do when it comes
to this.

Speaker 10 (01:49:12):
No, man, the old man can't carry a team.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
And he and he can't let that happen either, meaning Luca, right,
and that you almost got to take on the responsibility
of parent right now right instead, because it's got to
the point where you know when your family and and
and then I want you and you'll make your point
very eloquent as always, Biscuit, but before you do, you
know how your parents raise you and you carry the

(01:49:36):
kid forever, and then there's a switchover when they get older,
and you got to switch over where the kid now
turns around takes care of the parent. I don't mean
takes it, but you know it is there for them
when they need it, just like you were for them. Sure,
and with Lebron, although Lebron still got plenty games, he's
a healthy enough parent and mentally all all that that
he's he's he's like the grandparent that still is more
active than the kid. But the point is now it's

(01:50:00):
time for the younger guy to take care of mom
and dad. And this is Lebron's dad. Were okay, man,
I gotta limit a little bit of this, son, You
gotta this is your time. I'm retiring, not literally, but
you get the point. And I, Biscuit, I think that's
where you're going with this, is that if they're relying
on Lebron to have to do this thirty five minutes
a night throughout the playoffs. They will not win the
NBA Championship. They just won't.

Speaker 10 (01:50:21):
That's exactly the liking where I'm going. Let me say
this band, the number is three. If I say the
number three to you, what do you think I'd be
talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
Number is three three pointers. No, the number is uh three.
Make him the third go to option, meaning Lebron.

Speaker 10 (01:50:42):
No, the number is three is the number of people
who got into portal.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
At u of eight since Samsous. Oh there. Yeah, and
it goes back to so I thought we were still
on the Lakers. But yeah, it goes back to when
Jim Nat said, because I was applying it to the Lakers,
weren't you. I was thinking you were talking about the Lakers.
Well the lord'll Bron's older now, don't make him the
third option even though he's a first option guy, so
he doesn't have to exert too much energy. Oh yeah, people,
Jim Nat said it in his interview. They stay here.

(01:51:10):
That's a great point. But even before the portal was
was rampant, and now that it's rampant, they still stay here.

Speaker 10 (01:51:16):
It's a great point this and I'm saying to you,
man Kevi was sad just sitting on a gold mine
over there, shine, and the team this year might be better
than this year's team. You look at all the guys
he got coming in and I was reading the other
day the number one guy in the portal. Guess who's
at the top of his list and who he might
want to transfer to. And what I'm saying to you, man,

(01:51:39):
Kelvin Sampson. Man, if I'm telling you listen to sign
if you want to see something special and tug at
your heart, go to senior Night at U of Age
and see the parents and the and the players and
the just the love. You could just feel the love
and affection that they have for that man.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
And he has it for them too, Yes, yep. And
they know it. They know it, Biscuit. That's why they
stay here. They know it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:05):
That's it.

Speaker 10 (01:52:07):
And guess what he got some boys in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
So if you want to go to the NBA.

Speaker 10 (01:52:11):
Look up Faster, look up ship, look up the boy
from the Woodlands.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Or whatever rhymes crimes crimes. Yeah, man, you know what's great.
And you've got that Biscuit too. We're talking about all
this great stuff, you know, like what he does for
the kids and how much he cares and not only
do they get buy into him, he got he gets
buy into them and the parents all those things at
biscuits talking about you know the thing, where's that here?
Gets lost? Oh and by the way, he's a hell

(01:52:37):
of a basketball coach. You know what I'm saying. Get
he maximizes him on the court, not just off the court.
Were so caught up and raising him as young men. Oh,
by the way, they're in the final four. And the
dude knows how to coach, and he is as good
as anybody in the country. It coaches x's and o's
as well. And getting into him, I freaking he's and
he's an in game, good coach and a gustre. Yeah. Man,

(01:52:58):
he's got everything. So we're pretty lucky to have him here,
that's for sure.

Speaker 10 (01:53:03):
Let me say this, shine, I talk to my people
bagging in there, and all the time you think, I
you would like to do that over again?

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
All right, I got news for you. Guess what the
whole team wouldn't have been transferring. I promise you that
in assembly all they have stayed. Yeah, oh yeah, they'd
like to do over. And guess what if they said, okay,
do over the last twenty years of a coach you'd
love to have back. Well, I got a great idea.
Let's call that guy in the seven to one to
three area code and see if we can get him
to come back. Yeah, you ain't lying, brother, that's for sure.

Speaker 10 (01:53:32):
I got and I'm hoping Sean, but I'm afraid it
would Duke Man, that big dude in the bag. Now,
Cooper Flood is the big dude in the bag man
protecting that rim. I don't the coolers. They gonna really
have to shoot well because they're not gonna get anything
in the paint.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
Well, we do know this that nobody this is as
good offensive team as he's had, you know, depth wise,
can knock down shots. So it's going to be incumbent
upon them to do that because it's gonna be tough sledding.
Just like even though they're big, you know, they're so lent,
meaning the duke, the Cougars are so relentless on defense
sell contestant, so you're gonna have to work for your shots.
So it's not gonna be easy for either team inside,

(01:54:08):
although dukes with their size. But you're exactly right, so
that you know that two man game or the kick
in and kick back out and spot up three. The
Cougars are gonna have to do what we saw Smart
doing the rest of knock down those shots. They just
are and if they do, they'll win the national championship.
I find fully, because I know they're going to play defense.
It's Sta out of foul trouble. Yep, Sta out of

(01:54:29):
foul trouble. Knock down those shots. My man and Kelvin
will get to validate all this, even though he doesn't
need validation bringing home a trophy and guess who who
I hand it to the players, That'll be him Biscuit,
great stuff, manciated, great point.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
And it's also too I mean, you know you're talking
about you know, off the courts, and it feels like
coaches they love to say that, oh, we're gonna make
your son a better man, you know, all all of
those different things, and for some of it it's it's
lip service. It's just make mom and dad feel happy
that they're sending them there. Whereas him, if he tells
a parent that I think they can look at the
track record and say, oh yeah, look at the guys

(01:55:03):
when they're done playing for him.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
He doesn't really have to sell basketball. You know what
you get with him now, So if if you don't,
then you haven't been paying attention. And he really doesn't
have to sell off the field because his off the
court stuff is he's more focused on that than he
is court. The court takes care of itself because he believed,
you know how you live in your life than you
get to the court, Well, the basketball is going to

(01:55:24):
take care of it. So especially coming here, we recruited
you and you decided to buy in before you you
decided to come here, I already know the type of
kid I'm getting if you're if you're Calvin Sampson's team,
you just do And with Biscuit talking about a top
kid in the portal, considering u H, I want you
to thinking this day and age of do less get
paid more? Little entitlement at times with young players and

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the grown that the adults have created that you know
in the n C two A and code we've created that.
But I want you to think about this. Wouldn't it
be easier the easy way out to go play for
a coach that doesn't practice and expect the things that
so when you get out of class, you're exhausted, You
got to go practicing and guess what you're gonna do.
You're gonna take your backpack off, You're gonna put them on.

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And I understand you may be a little tired, but
this is how we do it here, and we'll give
you the rest when needed. This is how we do it.
How much easier to be. I'm a portal guy. I
got two and a half million dollars. Why do I
want to go to Houston and work that? Or let
me go to somewhere else where. It's just, you know,
it's not that hard a road because you listen, man,
you got to have a come to Jesus with yourself

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when you come play for Kelvin Sampson in a good way,
meaning when you decide to enroll here and take the scholarship.
Given the expectation, it ain't gonna be easy, man, It's
just not. And I've played with coaches that don't wear
you out on the field and ones that do. And
I'm telling you the initial thought through the test of
time is where's the easier place to go? But the

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smart one is who's going to prepare me best to
win on the hardwood and then win when I'm done?
And he may dislike him for you, you may drive you
crazy for six days, but that kind of coach is
the one you hug first and go back twenty years
later and think, as we've talked about, Yeah, man, when
you buy in here, you buying into the whole thing,
and the whole thing starts well before you lace him

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up and play one friggin game.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
And that's what that hug was what Juwan Roberts last night.
It was there was a lot of you know a
lot of times where Roberts probably felt like he was
left out and then you know, being able.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
To he's carved into himself as a player. Yeah, but
also think about that when boy he's a he's a
glutton for punishment. That dude come back four five? What
is this his fifth or sixth year? Six? Yeah, because
he had he got it a sixth year right with
a transfer port with twenty twenty in the rest of it.
Think about that you're worried about his work ethic getting
to the nbair plane, that that dude's decided I want

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to go through this six times six. That's different because
most guys after about three of it, if they're not
getting what they want to I'm gone. Two of it.
I'm gone, one of it. I'm gone. He's staying with
as tough as coach as there is to to. I mean,
there's no tougher coach on a practice court in America,
the demanding than Kelvin Sampson. But he also knows how

(01:58:04):
to make it where the tough you want to you
want to go through it. And that's a unique head coach,
phenomenal human, great coach. He takes a back seat to
nobody in the country. And there's four good coaches in
this he didn't take a back seat to any of
them in this tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:58:18):
You mentioned about the adults in the room creating the problems, Well,
I think somebody's going to agree with you on that.
We'll let you hear from them here in the nine
o'clock hour, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
And you can hear it over on KPRC nine to fifty.
Speaking of you, of as, Before we get into the
adults in the room, Anthony and deer Park wants to
weigh in talk some koog's. What's up, buddy, Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
Good morning guys.

Speaker 6 (01:59:23):
Hey have you guys seen the video of the Cougar's
practice prior to their Elite eight game?

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
Yeah, dive, I mean the loose baldrill.

Speaker 6 (01:59:33):
Yes, sir man, That that to me is just that.
That to me is just Calvin Sampson. And uh, you know,
I hear a lot of the the national guys talking
about do being more talented, and while that may be
the case, I think every other box that you could
check goes to the Koobs, whether it's coaching, physicality, defense,

(01:59:57):
I think I think every other box goes to Cougar's way.
And I think I think the Cougars win a gritty
matchup tomorrow. I'm really excited about it, and then real
quick if I can on the Rockets, I don't think
you fall backwards into fifty wins in the NBA. I

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think this Rockets team is legit. I know Oklahoma City
is probably more talented, but I do think this Rockets
team poses a problem for anybody that they run into
in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (02:00:30):
Good point, appreciate anything.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
Yeah, you don't stumble into fifty wins if you're just
you know, it's hard over it. I can understand how
you can win a seven game series and stumble into
a series because you've got great pitching in four games.
Right in the seven game series, it's it's hard to
fall into the wrong way, which is the right way.
Eventually you want to fall, but you don't fall up

(02:00:52):
just being an average team. And I would, And well,
I think Oklahoma City. He makes a great point, Well,
Oklahoma City's extremely gifted. I look at the talent here.
We may underrate the talent here. I mean, I know
that Udoka has got a blue Kelvin Sampson that we're
going to do it a blue collarway. You better be
prepared to dive and do all the things we do
play defense. But I think this team's extremely talented, and

(02:01:14):
I don't even think they know how talented they are.
I think Udoka does. And as far as Houston goes, yes,
bigger Duke talented. Probably three top fifteen picks in the
NBA draft, more than likely, and maybe three, you know,
three lottery type picks in the draft. We know who
the number one pick, but in truth, I don't know where.
And listen, history and tradition and all that. I get

(02:01:36):
the Duke thing, and they're well coached. Shire's done a
hell of a job and they are gifted as hell.
But I can tell you, and I'm with him, you'd
be very hard pressed not to find a box that
Houston wasn't. If you just did the box check on
the overall thing, you might find a few others, especially
on some intangible things, and you know, the things money

(02:01:57):
can't buy, you might find a few more things with
with Houston. Couldn't agree more with the caller, But you listen,
you got to be able to control the big fellows,
and you've got to be able to Duke's gift. That
is hell. Hence why they're didn't they they curb stopped Alabama? Yeah,
then they beat them by twenty Yeah, it wouldn't even cluse.
That's the one. I mean, They've been some close games

(02:02:18):
later they put it on them. So this is a
talent gifted team. But I got news for you that
we'll go find out how they take a punch to
the to the stomach and the gut punches and those
body blows early in this game because they're going to
get them stay out of foul trouble. That's my number
one wish, because they'll do the rest.

Speaker 4 (02:02:34):
And with the rockets too. I mean, it's hard to
sell defense to people who don't watch this team on
a nightly basis. So offensively, I think that's a little
bit why they get overlooked at times. But I mean,
watch the game against the Lakers the other night. The
mood in that building, the intensity in that building, and
the way it was on the court. That was a
team that said, these guys are no slouches, Like can't
we can't take these guys lightly.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Well, they they're no longer get to sneak up on anybody, right,
even though they they hit. You know, it's been a
minute since they've been in this situation playoff wise, But
make no mistake, they the Lakers and the Nuggets and
the Thunder and anybody else in the Western Conference, let
alone the East, they know this is a different team
and formidable at.

Speaker 4 (02:03:15):
That Well, it's a men. Thompson improving on the offensive end,
I think is also what's kind of gone along.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
With respect for you how to show and play defense,
that's exactly right now.

Speaker 4 (02:03:23):
The block shots a plenty out of him. We were
talking about it too, and we talked about this a
lot last week, not not as much this week. About
you know, you mentioned it last segment, the adults in
the room that are screwing things up. All of that,
the transfer portal happening during the tournament. Like I just
saw that Auburn just got a commitment the other day,
Like it's like, what are you doing, Like you're preparing
for one of the biggest games of the season and

(02:03:44):
you're still on the recruiting trail right now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
What Bruce Pearl said during this tournament, after we saw
what what Cal said and what what Zoe said, he
said that, listen, it's a portal these kids, which id
and I've even commented on a post it was that
somebody at College Basketball Expert had made on Twitter. I said,

(02:04:07):
Bruce is wrong on this one in my opinion, and
I think Bruce pearls awesome, but held talk about, hey, listen,
their season ends. These kids got to get on with
their life. We're still playing. No, no, these kids can
wait two more weeks or wait a week and a
half for ten days, just like everybody else has to
do in life. You want to loan from a bank,
it doesn't come through as fast as you want th
real life, man, Oh your car will you're waiting for approval.

(02:04:28):
Oh my tax accountant's got there. I want to get
money back for my tech. It's life. These kids, they're
eighteen and nineteen getting a poet. Bruce is wrong. There
now hints why Bruce doesn't want to do it. Izzo did.
He doesn't want to miss out on the guy right
that may leave him if he doesn't get attention paid
to him, even though he's got a national title on
the line in San Antonio. Yeah, tom Izzo was willing to.

(02:04:51):
And that doesn't mean Bruce is different or better than
Tom or Tom better than him, just different. Tom Izzo
was willing to not worry about next year, to go
win the whole thing and not go look fruiting in
the portal when his team that he currently coaches, the
guys actually that are on scholarship and walked on to
get a scholarship or walk ons or the guys that
his priority should be focused one hundred percent on them.

(02:05:12):
That's why it's absurd and ludicrous that the transfer portal
we've gotten to the point where we're running this while
the tournament's going on. I don't care that there's four
teams less. That's the bonus of being good, okay. And
now everybody got to wait and then do it like
the NBA does their NFL or baseball midnight tomorrow, two
days or so after that. The tournament ends on Wednesday

(02:05:34):
next week. Let it free flow the teams that still
are in it. You shouldn't punish them for being good.
That's the goal of everybody. And you shouldn't tell a
coach that he has to recruit you while he's got
his own guys under and his focus has to be
on winning a national title. And I don't want anybody
to tell, well, these kids, man, they getting save it.

(02:05:56):
They're no. The kids fine, but they're transfer and they're
doing they can beat do their due diligence, just like
everybody else has to in life. Because the kid we
went from the kids getting nothing to the kids having
it that they don't have to do anything to move
and take money and they don't have to GPA, they
don't have to do anything. So we went from h
they deserve more, these kids are to get paid to

(02:06:18):
we're stopping and slowing down tournament and focus on the teams.
The reason we're there to stop down and go recruit
a kid. He's going to be recruiting today. Now I
want you to think about that. Yeah, can you imagine
what a disrespect it is to the guys who stayed
and are playing for you for you to have to
And I'm not saying it's a fall to Bruce, it's
just their approaches. They're gonna go get somebody in the portal,

(02:06:40):
fair enough, but can you imagine that. It's like it's like, well,
you're married, but telling your wife listen, I'm married, I
love you, but you don't mind if I know you
know that mama pumps out. You know, it doesn't matter
who you know, what, doesn't matter who pumps up the
tires as long as mama rides the bike. Okay, So

(02:07:01):
all of a sudden, are you guys are pumping up
to tires my current players or I'm gonna go out
and find somebody to pump up the tires. But I'll
come back to mom and she'll ride the bike.

Speaker 5 (02:07:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:07:10):
It's not fair to mom, and it's not fair to
the to the to the man or the other one.
It's the same thing here. Don't you owe it to
the guys that actually stayed out and busted their ass
for you. The recruit can wait shut the portal down
during the tournament. It should not be allowed. But back
to that, see get me fired up and I say, yeah,
he's still recruiting it. Can you imagine going into a
Saturday game and you got to make a call and

(02:07:33):
kiss the ass of a guy in the portal so
he won't leave you while you're trying to win a
national title. That ain't it, buddy? And I'm all for
to the tom is away. I'm not doing this while
my team is playing the day after transfer portal to
your ass off. The rules allow you to. Now, you
can't be two places at once. I'm just sorry. You
can't be focused on something for the future while you're

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trying to take care of the now.

Speaker 4 (02:07:57):
All the realities you just laid out somebody else did too,
And the way he lays it out when you hear it,
you're just kind of like that's ludicris. I can't wait. Yep,
we'll hear it right here. Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:08:11):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
I've never been able to interview him, but I've always
wanted to, and we get him on today. Fuzzy Zeller
Masters winner with Augusta next week. I know they're finishing
up here at Valero Texas Open the next few days,
the final tune up before Augusta. Some have already tuned up,
ready to go. He's won the Masters. He's a uh guy, okay,
so he knows about the h town. He's also won

(02:08:34):
the in the US Open in nineteen eighty four, so
one of the toughest tests on a planet. Fuzzy Zeller
joins US now. Fuzzy, welcome in. It's sure great to
have you. Let me ask you this. You live in Indiana.
I know you spend time in Florida as well. How
much golf do you play now in your retirement from
the tour.

Speaker 8 (02:08:50):
Ah, yeah, it's funny you bring that up. I haven't
played golf in six years.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
You have not played golf, not even a fun round
with your buddies and having some of your vodka.

Speaker 8 (02:09:00):
No, I haven't you know? My wife got very, very
sick and she was on her way south on me,
and I just decided to give it up and spend
more time at the house with her for the last
couple of years. And I'm kind of glad I did it.
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
Do you watch as much to do you watch? You
still watch a lot, and then watch the New Age
golfer and watch the guys that you've played with on
tour and broadcast with. Do you still watch it the
same way?

Speaker 8 (02:09:30):
But now you know what? It's crazy? But I don't
watch golf. And that's the reason it is. I can't. I
cannot relate to how far they hit the ball.

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
Right.

Speaker 8 (02:09:40):
No, I'm still back there. I'm still back there dragging
along aunt a two hundred and fifty yard yard line
and uh, these guys are popping out there at three
forty three fifty and I have a hard time relating
to that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
Fuzzy is it?

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
Is?

Speaker 5 (02:09:52):
It?

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
Okay? Just on the overall thought process, and I think
we all have a hard time relating. Yet one hundred
and sixty pounders are pumping it out there three hundred
yards and I know the equipment golfers better your era
are now. And is the equipment such a major advantage?
You know we talk about it in pro sports too.
Well could this NBA play in the previous NBA or NFL?

(02:10:14):
So because of equipment? Has it made the game? As
you said, you don't watch it, but is it an
advantage that quite frankly, we don't get to see true
and fair ball striking because they're hitting eight irons into
par fives.

Speaker 8 (02:10:26):
Well, it's kind of strange and a little different. You
know what's bad about it with the link that these
young men are hitting the golf ball. It's all of
our little jewels in golf. The older golf courses are
kind of obsolete because are too short, which is not
of bad. You know, you got to go play these
courses are seventy five, seventy six hundred Micha. We're going

(02:10:51):
to Augusta next week. That golf course they have stretched opped.
I don't know who's seventy six and they're with the
hills and everything. But they have to do it, uh,
in order to be competitive.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
Now, you know, you don't watch it. The course they're
about to go play at Augusta. You won it was
in seventy nine. I believe it was your rookie year.
Am I correct, Fuzzy, it's wasn't it your rookie Your
rookie time at Augusta? Your first trip to Augusta? Is
that correct?

Speaker 8 (02:11:19):
That was my first time ever? Yes, driving down Monday
morning Magnolia Lane with my mother and dad in the
front seat, only because my wife was home and couldn't
travel because she was pregnant with our first child. So okay,
that we had We had a we had a lot
of first I had a first kid coming on the keepers. Oh,

(02:11:39):
the first time my mother and dad ever been there.
We had a great we had a great week.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
Yeah, I guess I guess you did, because it's tough
on rookies to go there and win. Let alae a veterans.
So in seventy nine, when you drove down Magnolia Lane
and you were thinking, okay, I'm here, and you know that,
I'm sure you had the chills, like we all your
first trip to Fenway Park or whatever it is, it
gives you that that venue you're walton into that venue.
Did you think you legitimately had a chance to win

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at that golf course as a rookie.

Speaker 8 (02:12:08):
Well about the only thing I could tell you, because
I didn't know anything about the golf course just from
what I had seen on TV. And trust me, TV
does not do that golf course justice. You don't really
see the slope of the greens and not see you're
not picking up the hills and the valleys that you
got to play through.

Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
It.

Speaker 8 (02:12:30):
It was different, entirely different than what I was expecting.
But now I was playing well when I went there,
and I just had a very good week of golf.
I had great pairings to play with, and I just
I enjoyed the whole week.

Speaker 1 (02:12:45):
Fuzzy Zeller, two time major winner US Open and the Masters,
and one of the Hall of Fame golfer joins us
here on Sports Talk seven ninety Sewn Salisbury Show. And
you mentioned pairings, and we'll get to the course as well.
But you, you know, whistled while you worked and had
fun and almost looked. And I mean this as a
compliment because I always say quarterbacks that look bored kind

(02:13:08):
of good do they play, But it's like the poise,
it's just nothing's bothering them. That was one of your
calling cards. So as a rookie Was it being naive
to the golf course because of all the undulation that
we don't see on TV. Was it any advantage that
day because you're really like, well, what, I'm just gonna
let it rip, man. I got good pairings. It was cool.
Nobody expects me to win. I'm young, I know nothing
about the golf course, so I'm going to try to

(02:13:30):
hit it in the right spot and go make a
few puts. Is that kind of the way you had
to approach it?

Speaker 5 (02:13:35):
Well?

Speaker 8 (02:13:35):
The way I approached that, I was riding my caddies back,
Jerry Beard, Jeriah was outstanding because I didn't know anything
about the golf course. I was, you know, played what
nine holes on a Monday eighteen on Tuesday Wednesday, and
then I got paired with Trevino on the first day.
So I was still learning as I was going. But

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I was listening to Jerry, and like I say, I
was able to hit.

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
The golf ball where Jerry told.

Speaker 8 (02:14:05):
Me to, and I was very fortunate for that.

Speaker 1 (02:14:08):
What's your favorite hole there at Augusta?

Speaker 5 (02:14:11):
All of them?

Speaker 3 (02:14:14):
All of them.

Speaker 8 (02:14:15):
I can't say there's one hole that stands out over
any other. It's all I can tell people if they're
going there for the first time and they walked down
the tenth hole, just remember look back because you got
to walk back up you make the turn. Once you
make that turn at thirteen, it's all uphill from there.

(02:14:35):
So it's an entirely different deal.

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
What was that? What was your lead going in? Where
were you when you're standing on Do you remember on
the Sunday? I can't remember who you were playing against
in the final? I mean, who was your partner in
the final round? Who was in the last one?

Speaker 8 (02:14:49):
Tom Watson and I played the final round together and
we were chasing, chasing ed speed okay, so that Steed
had had the lead going into the final ro okay,
and then he bowed you the last three holes, which
gave Tom Watson and I the I guess the opportunity
that we were looking for because the door opened, and

(02:15:10):
as we say on tour, if you open the door
a little bit, there's three or four guys that are
going to step their feet in.

Speaker 1 (02:15:16):
When you and Tom got to eighteen, what was the
what was the lead? Or was who was in the
lead at eighteen? When you stood at eighteen? That pretty
decent part four.

Speaker 8 (02:15:25):
Well, it still had a two shot lead coming into seventeen.
When Tom and I ted off eighteen, we were well,
we were still two shots back.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
Yeah, because he was in the final group playing behind you, obviously, right, yep, right,
and so well, I.

Speaker 8 (02:15:43):
Had a hard enough I had a hard enough time
finding my golf ball, much less.

Speaker 1 (02:15:47):
Worry about where his.

Speaker 8 (02:15:52):
Well we got we got in and we were standing
there in the scoring tent, which used to be right
behind the eighteenth green. When well, when edge I guess
missed short put at seventeen and again on eighteen for
a bogie and put, Tom and I ended the playoff.
It was the first sudden death playoff they'd ever had.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
And so when you went to that sudden death playoff
standing on the t box, you're a rookie and you
got you know, you're standing next to Tom Watson's pretty
good hisself. Do you remember your emotions that day?

Speaker 5 (02:16:24):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (02:16:24):
I really didn't have any because I, you know, like
I said, I was hitting the ball well, and when
you're swinging well, there's really not much you think about.
You don't think about rhythm, you don't think about anything.
You just kind of let it happen. And that's what
I did. I drove it very accurate on ten, and
then I hit a bomb on eleven, which I don't

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know where it came from, but it was like I
had some extra little poof behind the ball and it
went down there. Well, I had an eight iron into
my hands and I hadn't even come close to hitting
an eight under that hole. So I know there's a
lot of good things happening that day.

Speaker 1 (02:17:04):
Well, I guess so. And Crown Masters Champion in seventy nine,
and then obviously the US Opening eighty four, among a
bunch of Hall of Fame wins along the way. Fuzzy
Zeller for a few more minutes here on the Sewn
Salisbury Show, won the Masters as a rookie sudden death
against Tom Watson in overtime and sudden death in nineteen
seventy nine. All right, Fuzzy, who you don't watch it much?

(02:17:26):
We know the shufflers and the rest of them. Let
me ask you this. If you had one golf course
to play the rest of your life, if you started
playing again, can you name two or three that you
say that's the only one I'd play the rest of
my life. If I was pinned down, which one would
it be?

Speaker 8 (02:17:39):
Well, I'd just let's put it this with A doctor
came to me, said I got twenty four hours, he'd
go play eighteen more holes. I'd go to Augusta one
more time, one more time, just something. There's something magical
and special about Augusta National.

Speaker 5 (02:17:54):
Now.

Speaker 8 (02:17:55):
Is it the best golf course in the world. I
can't say that. All I can tell you is it's
a damn good woman. Thinking about when they built that
golf course and the equipment they had to use. You know,
it's not like what they have nowadays. I mean they
can move earth, they can move mountains nowadays. Well, they

(02:18:15):
didn't have that equipment back then when this golf course
was cut out into the hills of beautiful Georgia. And
I got to tell you it is absolutely spectacular.

Speaker 1 (02:18:25):
Was Augusta on the four majors? From the Open, the
US Open, the Gusta and the PGA. Was even though
you said Augusta be the course you played when you
started playing professional golf. Was I mean, you want to
win them all? But was there one that you said
that's the top or the toughest one to win? Which
are the four majors? Would you have wanted to win

(02:18:46):
if they only allowed you to win one. Is it
Augusta would have been somewhere else?

Speaker 8 (02:18:52):
No, that the green jacket is magical, That's all I
can tell you. It's hard to put into words what
that green jacket means, especially the UH two people who
have really no idea, but it is a magical thing. Now,
the hardest one, the hardest one to win is the
US opened yea or because of the traditions that we

(02:19:13):
play under.

Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
Are you going to be at Augusta this week coming up?

Speaker 8 (02:19:18):
No, I'm not till Sunday morning, so you'll go. And
I think there's any reason, no reason to rush in there.

Speaker 1 (02:19:25):
Right, yeah? Absolutely? What was your what was your champions dinner?
It's fuzzy? What was your fuzzy? Zeller joined us for
a couple more minutes. What was your champions dinner the
next year? What did you have on the menu?

Speaker 8 (02:19:37):
Well, you know what they do it a little differently
now than when when I was there, But you know
I had Jeens service and I had Claude Harmon, oh god,
Byron Nelson. I had all the older guys. Yeah, you
think about it. Those guys all like some like steak,
some like fish, some like their chicken. So I just

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had an open menu to them. Whatever they wanted, that's
what they could get. Why, yeah, it was open. Now
they bring in these special chefts. Uh I guess cooked
the specialties that the guys won, So it's a little different.

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I use the chefs there on on as they say
at Augusta, and they did a tremendous job. I didn't
hear any complaints. But you know, with Arnold and Jack
and uh Gary, they all eat different things. I mean
it's crazy. Sometimes they want salad, sometimes they want chicken,

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sometimes they like fish. But it's just whatever they wanted.
I wanted their knight to be their night, have a
great time. It was my privilege. It was my privilege
to buy well.

Speaker 1 (02:20:53):
And I would imagine so and as a rookie winning it.
I'm sure they enjoyed the next year's meal. Before I
let you go, you mentioned your dream golf course, so
put my put your dream for them together on that
on that day that you're playing your last round of golf,
who is it?

Speaker 8 (02:21:09):
Well, you know, that's that's a pretty good question. I mean,
I enjoyed playing with all the guys.

Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
You only get I'm only I'm not off that easy.
I'm giving you get three dudes and you could pick
the caddy. You get three guys, and.

Speaker 8 (02:21:22):
They have to be hold on, do they have to
be living?

Speaker 10 (02:21:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:21:29):
Give me, give me, give me both. Give me three guys.
Give me the other three.

Speaker 8 (02:21:33):
I'm going to have to put Arnold in there, probably
a guy like Chee Chi or or a Trevino, just
to keep the air kind of chopped up, you know
what I mean. Yeah, those guys. No, those guys weren't
absolutely blasts to play golf with. I mean there's always
something coming out that you didn't expect. Okay, that's usually

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coming from one of those two.

Speaker 1 (02:21:57):
Now I know Lee's, I know Lee's and Chee Chee
you know, I mean Lee alive and we lost Arnold Palmer.
All right, give me, give me the current through three guys,
guys that are living. And you can't include Lee Trevino
in it. So you know, is Jack in it? Is?
Is Tiger in it? Give me your three guys or
three year buddies. You want to play it that we'd.

Speaker 8 (02:22:14):
Know, well, I mean that you would that you would know.
I mean, Scottie Sheffer's a gentleman. I will tell you
that from on and off the golf course. Let's see
who else could it be? Branda Chamblee. As crazy as
he is, he is, he is a very very nice man.

Speaker 1 (02:22:39):
You'll get you'll get some opinion on stuff with Brandal
Shambleie on that round, that's for damn sure. But he
no doubt he's a good guy.

Speaker 5 (02:22:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:22:49):
We used to We used to call Mike Donald bats
on tour, but I think Brandal's taking.

Speaker 5 (02:22:54):
It to a whole new level.

Speaker 1 (02:22:55):
There you go. Okay, one more name? Who's the last one?

Speaker 8 (02:23:01):
I need one more?

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
Huh Yep.

Speaker 8 (02:23:03):
It has to be it has to be a living species.

Speaker 1 (02:23:06):
It has to be a living I'll even give you
an actor or a singer, or another athlete and another
sport or in your sport, I'll give you. We'll give
you the hall pass one if there's some. But it's
got to be somebody that we can relate to that
we know who it is. So who would that be?

Speaker 8 (02:23:19):
You can put the Golden Bear in there. I mean
I always enjoy playing with him too.

Speaker 1 (02:23:25):
Yeah, he knows the course pretty well as well. So
that'd be a pretty couple of good couple of good
foursomes for you. Fuzzy. Yeah, so you don't miss it.
You kind of like the lifestyle now, showing up once
in a while and you don't miss Will we ever
see you at the golf club and you're hand playing again?
Will you ever just go play around of golf at
you at your club with the buddies?

Speaker 8 (02:23:42):
Uh? You know, I got to say, I don't think so,
only because I got us fighters from my hands real bad,
and I have a hard time holding onto the golf club, understandable.
And you know, once once you start flinching, I guess
it's just a part of age that happens. Once you
start flinching at the Oh, you'll flinch every time, and
that's just absolutely no fun.

Speaker 1 (02:24:04):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (02:24:05):
I don't mind flinching when I have a fishing rod
in my hand, I can actually get away with it.
But when you're trying to make three or four footer
or trying to hit a drive and you can't hold
on to the club, it's hard to hit it accurately.

Speaker 1 (02:24:18):
Well, you gave us plenty of thrills when you could
hold onto the club the way you wanted to. Two
time major winner, obviously, and almost a second at the
PGA and a third at the Open. But won the
US opening eighty four Hall of Famer and obviously as
a rookie in sudden death against Tom Watson, wins the
Green jacket. And you'll be there this weekend watch them
crown a new champion or the previous champion from the

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year before, Scottie Scheffler, Fuzzy. This is an honor for me.
Always a gentleman made golf a lot more fun to watch,
and you share his heck enhance our show today. So
thanks for spending time with us, and I look forward
to doing it again, my friend.

Speaker 8 (02:24:50):
Thank you, you got it. Listen, I have a great
week next week.

Speaker 1 (02:24:54):
Thank you all get count on it. We will and
you too. We appreciate you, sir, Thank you. We'll do it.
You know what great stuff? You know what I find
real quick. We'll go to break is a lot of
former athletes have been doing it a long time. Approach
it like him, Like you heard Rory McElroy, who still
doing said when he gets to fifty, he not the
champions story. He goes, if I got to play that

(02:25:15):
song wrong, He's not playing it not if he has to.
But those guys are making good money. But he'll probably
be enjoy a pint with his buddies and Fuzzy zeller
who was you know, whistling when he walked down the
ferry and he noticed. He didn't choose all I mean,
Golden Bear, but he chose guys that would make him
laugh and have some fun. Right wise guy and a

(02:25:35):
great player and I think beloved on the tour by
his peers because of that personality you just heard. Hadn't
picked up what he say, six seven years and the
arthritis and doesn't watch. I find a lot of guys
don't because those competitives used to get flown and you
it's kind of out of your control. You can't do it.
Pretty interesting man, great to talk to him. Legendary and
Hall of Famer Fuzzy Zellers.

Speaker 4 (02:25:56):
Yeah, your point, played it, did it, loved it and
got out. Yeah, time to find something else. Next next
phase in life.

Speaker 1 (02:26:02):
Fishing and enjoying and enjoying, relaxing. There ain't nothing wrong
with that. Hey, good on him.

Speaker 4 (02:26:06):
If you got a good life, make sure you keep
it a good life, all right, Brandon, see you right there, Drew,
see you. And then also to that audio that Sean
I know is going to agree with, we'll hear that
right here of Sports Talk seven to ninety and we're
the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (02:26:21):
Continued.

Speaker 4 (02:26:24):
Sonny Dike's the coach at TCU, along with Kirby Smart,
the coach at Georgia. We're gonna hear from here in
a second. But he was talking about, you know, they're
getting ready for playing against Michigan, and he's like, yeah,
we've got official visits on campus, so like we've got to,
you know, already go through that right now. And in
addition to the current roster I got. I mean, look,

(02:26:44):
you know, if I don't get these guys enrolled for
the spring semester, I'm not going to get them. So
it's the nature of the beast. But listen to what
Kirby Smart has to say. And you know you talked
about the adults in the room who are screwing this
thing up, Well he takes it a step further.

Speaker 12 (02:26:59):
What I do know is that we're going to continue
to recruit people who love football, who are passionate about football,
and that don't put money. It's the number one answer,
Like I've never met a really good player that that's
all they cared about. So like the one oh five number,
the nil number, what's the cap number? What is this
going to be? There's stuff going on right now, guys

(02:27:19):
in college football. I mean there's people reaching out to
have a zoom call and present all the players they
represent that are own teams, including our teams, and they
want to invite people to the zoom so they can
watch and see who's going in the portal or shopping.
Who's in the portal before the portal? Do you want
to get on the zoom and look at all these players?

(02:27:41):
I'm like, well, what are some of our mind?

Speaker 1 (02:27:44):
That's the reality. What do you add to that? I mean,
it's a fact. You turn it there and say, oh,
there's four of my dudes they're leaving. Yeah, the portal,
the idea of giving the kids an opportunities. One thing.
We've got to change it with salary caps and put
a buy out on the players. We just got to

(02:28:04):
prevent it from getting out. It's already out of hand.
I don't know how you're gonna bring it back, but
you got to stop it quickly. Well it's I mean,
you know what that's like. That's like you're in a
committed relationship and then somebody comes to you and says, hey,
I was on Hinge or you know, tender, one of
those she's on there, like that's that's pretty much what
it is. I mean, it's it's really kind of the
same thing where it's like I thought she loved me. Yeah,

(02:28:24):
it's like, well, wait a minute, what's happening here, right?
You know, so risen up, other dudes, and what are
we doing? Yeah, and so you need he's exactly listen. Now,
these coaches who say this obviously know will the rules
allow the transfer portal stuff, So you you either can't
beat him you join them, right right, But there's got
to be some fight back at some point in time
when you're like this is just at and the Cinderella

(02:28:46):
will go away because the people with the more the
richer are going to get richer and dominate more because
some people just aren't money. Well, I was going to
be able to keep up and give these kids. Even
though most of these kids are not going to sniff
the NBA or the ENNIM most of them are quite frankly,
some are going to transferm and be without a team.
Most are not going to be the star of the

(02:29:07):
team they go to basketball. You can probably impact it
more because if you're averaging twenty. So I mean, and
there's less players, right, and less money to give away
because there's less players, But you still got more focused
on one big player. But there is absolutely no doubt
that the domination will continue. For you thought it was dominant.
We all did because conferences could recruit better because they

(02:29:29):
were better schools and had better facilities. And now it's
not even about that, it's well, we can recruit better
because we can pay more. They've actually taken the expertise
of recruiting out of it. A Nick Saban special, Kirby
smart special guys that recruit. Oh, I can recruit great,
but here's the problem. They got a million more dollars yep,
and the guy went to his dad, went to play

(02:29:50):
played for me, right, But he's going here and I
get the money. It's like free agency in sports. But
this is even a worse case scenario than free agency
and pro sports. So they're gonna have to is Kirby's
exactly right. It's just and the coaches, most of them
hate it. But you if you hate it enough that
you don't deal in it, then you're gonna get left behind.

Speaker 4 (02:30:08):
And his point too, that he brought up just to
wrap this up he had brought up about all the
revenue sharing and everything. That's soon enough, it's an unsustainable model.
The money's gonna run out and then bye bye baseball,
Bye by track and field, Bye bye, like other programs
that just cannot match that type of money that football
and basketball can bring in. Right that That's how I
thought the department. I'll just be like, all right, fine,

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we'll just have these guys.

Speaker 1 (02:30:30):
And you know what else though, too, even like the
big the big money, the big money schools ut A
and m Georgia, Southern col whoever's got the money Tennessee
is right in any sport, football, basketball, you know what
ends up happening is that if you're not winning titles
and getting all that money from boosters in big time,

(02:30:51):
you know what, they eventually say.

Speaker 4 (02:30:53):
We'll stop giving me.

Speaker 1 (02:30:54):
Where's my ROI yeah, I'm not getting I mean it's fine,
and Danny, I'm gonna give you money because I'm a
true lumnia university. But I don't know many rich people
that like losing money or don't get don't see a
reward at the carrot dangling at the end of the tunnel.
So that's exactly right. If you're given and not giving
back to the guy who gave you the money, even
though you're getting good seats at the game, but you're

(02:31:16):
still falling short. You're done. The water fauce does turn
off and it flows feels like a fire hose when
you're winning, and it shuts off like you got a
hard water system. You don't have soft water, and it's
the you can't turn the handle because it's so stuck.
That's what you'll get. And even the rich ones will
come up short because if you're a boosot, I'm gonna

(02:31:37):
keep giving you money. You keep kind of nine wins.
I can get that for not giving money soon enough,
I won't be right if I keep giving this. That's
exactly right, that's soundly.

Speaker 4 (02:31:45):
You want to be rich, do as rich people do,
all right, Drew Brandon, see you guys right there. We'll
squeeze you all in before we close up shop today.
Get back in a little bit of Astros, maybe even
squeezing one little Texans note. We'll do that right here.
Sports Talk seven ninety and John Salisbury Show continued. Brandon,
what's up, buddy, How you doing, Bud?

Speaker 1 (02:32:07):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 9 (02:32:08):
I am took a nap before the game started yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:32:14):
All right, so you're ready to see some winning baseball
and you woke up.

Speaker 1 (02:32:17):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (02:32:20):
Yeah, Hey, I was happy with Jeremy Payne tied it.

Speaker 1 (02:32:27):
Yeah, number eight at.

Speaker 5 (02:32:31):
Who tied it?

Speaker 4 (02:32:32):
Yeah, Christian Walker first and Jeremy Peney that tied up
it was. It was a good one too.

Speaker 1 (02:32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:32:38):
Yeah, who's mentioned to tomorrow afternoon?

Speaker 4 (02:32:41):
Pincer Raghetty buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:32:44):
Again too?

Speaker 4 (02:32:46):
Who is going for the twins? They said it it
is going to be, of course, it's always the computer
freezes up on you when he does that. Obert Bailey,
Ober Yeah, we need to when that's it, that's it,
get back to five hundred and go from there. Have
a good weekend, buddy, you too, I see you, Bud.

Speaker 1 (02:33:09):
I love when we get that. Got a nap in
yeah before the game. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 4 (02:33:14):
Yeah, you know, bragging a little bit of you know, say,
you know some of us, you know at times, you
know you got to run around do all of that,
and then if you ever get a few minutes to yourself,
it's nice.

Speaker 1 (02:33:24):
Dogs. We didn't get a nap and he did, is
what you're saying. I got I got a cat nap
in yesterday. But then the problem is, you know the dogs,
they're they're pretty much our shadows. So then the problem
is is they sleep almost on top of you, so
then you don't really have much room to work.

Speaker 4 (02:33:38):
Because I'm a side sleeper. I gotta do that. If
I if I, if I'm the other way, it's it's
not it's not good for anybody.

Speaker 1 (02:33:44):
Else in the room. Yeah, on logs, lots of them. Oh,
your logs are bad. Really. I have a few drinks.
Don't be there. So you're you're you're like you're blowing
the roof off time, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:33:55):
Yeah, yeah, like where it's Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:33:58):
Like ear plugs for the y for the girl I
call the wife, she's living out of your roof.

Speaker 4 (02:34:03):
Yeah, And I do have the machine and I've been
told I need to use the machine more.

Speaker 1 (02:34:07):
Was it a sea pap type? Yeah, well, at least
you're healthy.

Speaker 4 (02:34:13):
I try to.

Speaker 1 (02:34:13):
I try to.

Speaker 4 (02:34:14):
They say that could be even healthier if I slept better.
There you go sleep on your side. That's it, that's it.
I try my best.

Speaker 1 (02:34:20):
Did you know that Brandon had a nap yesterday?

Speaker 4 (02:34:22):
We knew?

Speaker 1 (02:34:22):
Now Now I love our guy because all of Houston. Hey, listen,
I took a nap yesterday. I could get coffee the
day before. Remember we was making coffee. Hang on a second,
I called you guys when I'm getting coffee. Hold up.

Speaker 4 (02:34:37):
I love it man, grinding beans, grinding the beans and everything.

Speaker 5 (02:34:40):
Love it.

Speaker 4 (02:34:41):
Drew, you got like thirty seconds. But I hate short
you on time. But that's what you got. What's up?

Speaker 5 (02:34:46):
Oh good? Happy to keep for short rockets. Back to
back losses from the Lakers and Nuggets. Keep that two
seed go cools. They keep a simple go be coop.

Speaker 4 (02:34:57):
There you go. I like Who's house Coog's house? Love
it right there?

Speaker 1 (02:35:01):
Okay, yeah, I like I knew the assignment he hopped
in and he took care of his size and dynamic.
I like it. He always does a good job and
he loves his cougs. Man. There we go. Look look
forward to it. We previewing a championship Monday.

Speaker 4 (02:35:11):
With the cougs.

Speaker 1 (02:35:12):
I think so, I do. I think we are previewing it,
previewing it on Monday and giving him great thumbs up
for a hell of a performance. I think we're in
for two monster games on Saturday night. Now it's gonna
be a lot of fun tomorrow night. Good stuff about it.
Have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:35:27):
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